John C Dvorak: rubbed me the wrong way you get blocked.
Adam Curry: Adam curry Jhansi Dvorak October 22 2023 This is
your award winning accumulation media assassination episode
16 01 This is no agenda, clutching my pearls and
broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas country here in
FEMA Region number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry
John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're
concerned that Canada is pushing assisted suicide for babies. I'm
Jhansi Dvorak.
Adam Curry: It's about time they got in on that on that action.
Baby killing is all the rage. So it's like hey, we're not gonna
let a masa Israel have all the fun. Is this really something?
Are they really doing assisted suicide?
John C Dvorak: Back board I think is to kubek medical board
is pushing it and they're trying to get it through. Babies up to
one and
Adam Curry: the babies get to decide is that how that worked
out?
John C Dvorak: Of course. No, I did. This is this is a form of
abortion after the fact.
Adam Curry: Yes, it's post natal abortion. Pap, you
John C Dvorak: look at it. I don't like that baby.
Adam Curry: says like, look at the nose on that
Unknown: kid. Yeah, no good. Oh,
Adam Curry: it's as red hair. Oh, no, it's a ginger. Oh, hello
social media addicts. Remember when social media was social
networking?
Unknown: Wow. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: I'm talking about Wow. Which is that's kind of an
interesting while you're right. I got a robo call today. Did you
know and it was it was the I considered some someone who
coded it was very ironic. It was a woman calling it was a robot
robot. Hi, I'm Eliza. Oh, really? Yes.
Adam Curry: Wow, that's not obvious. I'm Eliza. How are you?
i Oh, man. Now this this Israel Hamas thing is perfect. I mean,
it's better than mask no mask Vax Novak's could you know when
you say something like all of a sudden you're a Nazi you it goes
a little further. Now you can you can get in real trouble now.
You're anti Semite. Yeah. So, but yes, it used to be social
networking. And I think that the turn to social medias when they
brought in the algos?
John C Dvorak: Oh, you know, I don't think so. I think it was
the social networking, I think was always borderline passive.
Adam Curry: Right. There was no comments. You're right. Yeah, it
was just, it was like a, like Google Reader. That was that was
that was social? No, no,
John C Dvorak: I think Facebook would be considered social
networking. And I think until Twitter came along with micro
blogging, I think it was always,
Adam Curry: I think, I think it's, I think it's the algo I
think it happened when the algo was introduced. That's when
because media, look, networking is just, hey, look, I'm
networking with some people. I'm in a group. Yeah, following some
people, but Facebook. But then Facebook got their feed their
news feed, and that was all algo eyes. And then it became media.
I mean, media is always dishonest. I think it actually
doesn't really even matter. I've done some study. You know, we're
John C Dvorak: We're all ears. Yes.
Adam Curry: So we've talked about noster nostril, as you
call it. And a big discovery so Nasir is this decentralized is
basically Twitter decentralized and a lot of Bitcoin bros like
it because you can zap each other with with little bits of
Bitcoin. But it's it's really not all that great. And I think
the Bitcoin bros like it's censorship resistant. Okay. So
there's really one, one app that does this that does noster
really well. And this one app got an investment or maybe just
to a stipend from Jack Dorsey. So oz. Great. And that's called
Domus. That's the name of this app. Get it Nostradamus. So the
Dominus guy. I know the dumbest guy posts. He says, hey, you
know, we looked at our app store stats. And it turns out that
after three months, 99% of the people who've tried this app,
give up on it. And you know, it was baffling to me. And I can
tell you why. Because you get on this app and there's no action.
It's not yelling at you is not giving you stuff to follow them
because there's no algos, there's nothing. That's
John C Dvorak: a good point. I don't know if the algos create
the action or not, but they sure don't. They don't
Adam Curry: hinder it. There's no highlighting there's no
trending. I like the
John C Dvorak: idea you're right people yeah Lynnette each other,
that's where it's like watching a fight.
Adam Curry: So and that is so now entered no algos fight, but
we have mastered on. And I know I've been. I've been looking
very closely at what's been going on in our own Mastodon
server, which doesn't happen. Yeah, and hates you now. But
that's what's that's what's so interesting is it's like love
hate. It's everyone. Everyone just needs that little that
little hit that little I had posted something on any social
if someone commented whoa doesn't agree with me that's
even better. No, it's like I say something simple like I don't
like memes and now it's like a hate meme don't hate means there
was a poll, Aaron er who runs the whole? The whole instance
said no, we should have a mean free Monday. Everyone's mad not
bad. You're addicts, you're addicts is 100% addiction to
this, this is probably even a better high than you get from
some drugs. Because the same mechanism, this is what Silicon
Valley figured out decade ago. It's is the end. So anything
that feeds that and again, this Hamas Israel thing is fantastic.
Because you can just go back and forth and call people names and,
and the algo throws it up in your face. And it's great. I
mean, the troll room is a little different. The troll room is
like, I'm gonna go to a party, I'm gonna binge to like puke.
You know, that's kind of what that is just you just throw some
bombs. And people you get immediate feedback. I think and
yes,
John C Dvorak: I agree that is different. I think it's still
social media, but it's of a different sort.
Adam Curry: It's binging it's like a binge fest, and I'm just
gonna go and cram as much dope into me as I can until I puke
and then I'm good. And then here's something else.
John C Dvorak: Well, it also comes and goes, you don't dwell
on things right, bro. Yeah, exactly. Well, I'm dwelling
factor. I think it's a big deal.
Adam Curry: But if you get kicked off by me, you know,
that's like you're either a general of the troll room, then
you have massive props. So and then I've noticed something
else. Now I don't I don't have this per se. But I've seen
friends and I think I think women more than anything, maybe
I'm not sure. On text messages. So they have a text message
thread. And they're just sending memes back and forth about the
news. And you know, like thumbs up has a good one. And but
there's no there's not like this like meme ship. There's not even
a it's not even a friendship. They just shoot memes back and
forth. It's a completely empty relationship. It's like it's
like, sex without love. I don't know what it is. This people
really need to sit down the phones for a day. It's not
healthy. What's going on? Hey,
John C Dvorak: okay, talking to the wrong guy.
Adam Curry: I know. I know. I know. I know. Now,
John C Dvorak: of course I still since December. You
Adam Curry: haven't touched your phone. I know. You're a master.
John C Dvorak: I don't have an account anymore. I'm gonna have
to. Yeah, I'm gonna try to get back before No, no, no.
Adam Curry: But this is also why you are now at five years old is
because you have not succumb you have kept all of your all your
John C Dvorak: keeps the blood pressure down.
Adam Curry: Exactly. You have healthy blood pressure. You You
haven't worn out all of your your brain cells. And what's the
you haven't you know, dopamine you actually have for sex? Not
just for you I get you with that one. No, so this is good. This
is that's why be like John cook for yourself. Don't don't have
your phone and just don't use your phone at all. Look at the
look at the trains.
John C Dvorak: Great dad goes a train.
Adam Curry: And I think personally the genius move and
not everybody can do this is love your wife in a different
state. I mean, this is just you.
John C Dvorak: You've got an always a winner.
Adam Curry: Anyway, so I've figured a couple things out with
the with the M five M is already abusing this entire situation.
And before we get to it though, first we have to have these
because CNN is loving this. We got ratings again, we got guys
with helmets. We got we got chicks with flak jackets to say
media press. We have dangerous situations. We got cool sound
effects. And what happened on CNN this morning. I mean, you
could ask for a better ratings Buster than this. So you are
Unknown: seeing this sort of solidarity that was called for
by the way by from all over the Arab world and the world of
like, but you were also seeing the journalists gathered here
because this is kind of where the crash happens. All right.
All right, you see that people are very angry to do not like
recording the story. You hear that?
Adam Curry: Yeah. All right. I mean, that's dynamite for
ratings. Good job there in the fields. Her name is what's your
name? Her name is? Sarah. So what's your name? Sara Sidner. I
think Cersei there's good job for a raise give her Erin
Burnett. Let's stir it up a little bit. Come on, Aaron. Go
go go what we see
Unknown: Sarah dealing with on the ground and Ramallah
obviously, you know, it is so important, right? These are pro
Palestinian protests. But there's also the perception of
where the media stands where American media stands. You are
not welcome here. There is an anger and resentment and a rage
and it is real real and it is. It is a part of the story as
well pro Palestinian, anti Israeli anti American, the this
John C Dvorak: right there for a second. We have absolutely no
evidence that this whole thing wasn't staged.
Adam Curry: Thank you very much. And I'm going to show to you
that the probably was
Unknown: and it is important and it is a part of the story as
well pro Palestinian, anti Israeli anti American. The this
is this is often one big giant soup. And it's very hard to pull
those strings apart as that moment with Sarah I think just
illustrated so well.
Adam Curry: It's a soup I tell ya. It's one giant soup. We
don't know what to do. Unfortunately for CNN, ABC was
the first of the punch. Whenever you really want to go over the
top with any type of attacking force. You got to bring this in.
It's it's a good old friend of the show.
Unknown: And we're learning that Hamas terrorists who attacked
Israel may have been high on a drug designed to make them feel
invincible. The drug Captagon was reportedly found on the
bodies of terrorist and in the vehicles used in the attack
Adam Curry: member our old friend Captagon if it wasn't the
Russians, it was it's all I forgot all about it. Yeah, on
the Captagon that drugged out it's a powerful
Unknown: amphetamine known as the poor man's cocaine. Experts
say to drug may explain some of the extraordinary ferocity seen
in the attack. Former DEA Deputy Chief of Staff Jim Crotty with
Captagon and other illicit substances, they just tend to
strip people of all their humanity. They do things that
they wouldn't ordinarily do. There's very little to stop them
from committing all sorts of atrocities. But drones makes
users take crazy risks, like this terrorist wearing a helmet
cam who walked right into Israeli gunfire.
Adam Curry: Yes. Hi, man. They're all jacked up on poor
man's cocaine. We have this is from I think this is maybe one
of your clips 2019 background you're on Captagon
Unknown: Lebanon's Bekaa Valley has a history of smuggling and
trafficking of all sorts, an area where illegal activities
include narcotics Achmed is one of those who transports and
sells that type of amphetamine called Captagon Ichie been a
hugely popular drug in the Middle East.
Adam Curry: Oh, so it's not just for fighters. It's just in the
Middle East in general. All right. Cannon ethylene always
bring back the Captagon if you want to make it just a little
more fun there. Hi, man, the crazy and everything was going
swimmingly well, and I've been waiting for something to pop up
and there it was in DC. We had a pro Palestinian protest. And
well, I happen to catch this on local Fox five and I went down
the rabbit hole.
Unknown: Just days after hundreds of arrests in the canon
building right here at the US Capitol. More demonstrations
popping up on the National Mall. Let's get to Stephanie Ramirez
joining us live. Steph, what is the sentiment out there today?
People are marching in the pro Palestinian ceasefire rally
there is no doubt if you don't hear it out here. The calls for
a ceasefire in Gaza have definitely increased I want to
show you a crowd here. This is a organized protest that was
permitted for Around 100 people but we're seeing today a little
bit different
Adam Curry: you don't need to hear the whole report she said
it right there. This was an organized protest professional
signs. Ha as a no agenda conspiracy therapist This is
where we start the main sign was want to second pray for the dead
fight. What was that pray for the dead fight for peace. Now
this is typically fight like hell for peace. That's when the
union's use it. But they didn't find it appropriate to put hell
in here I guess. And these signs were made by the if not now.
Movement organization who if not now movement.org Quickly we are
if not now a movement of American Jews organizing our
community for equality, justice and a thriving future for all
our neighbors ourselves, Palestinians and Israelis. We
are Jews of all ages with ancestors from across the world
and Jewish backgrounds as diverse as the ways we practice
our Judaism. Okay, so I'm trying to figure out who's behind this
who's funding this and here is a nice little bit in their in
their on their website after the war ended now this was a
previous war that there were protesting against the founders
joined the momentum organizing community I didn't that didn't
ring any Bell. The same community were sunrise movement
and by the people and many more organized for a brighter future.
Wait a minute sunrise movement? Isn't that those kids who go
we're going into Nancy Pelosi his office. So I'm like, oh,
okay, so this is organized. Let's go to the momentum
movement and momentum very interesting little outfit here.
They we offer training and support to movement organizers.
Momentum offers training and support to hone organizers
skills in shifting public opinion, developing a hundreds
of leaders and mobilizing by the 1000s we are committed to both
strengthening existing groups and incubating new movement
organizations. They've got resources, they've got guides,
they're a community of movement leaders and they've apparently
no not apparently they have organized this if If not now,
movement organization. So what let's look at this they have a
donate button. Oh, guess who this is? Not blue X blue. Of
course it's the Democrat Party. X blue now.
John C Dvorak: Good one, good one.
Adam Curry: So it's it's politics. This is politics.
Let's get to the staff of this organization. Because it's just
worth looking at. Ad yell Polydor Advanced Training
Director pronouns she her. She's responsible for driving? Oh no,
it gets better is responsible for driving our advanced
training programs supporting the build out of the leadership
development pipeline. Through coaching. She leads the momentum
201 training and black momentum Okay. Amanda sage, Interim
Executive Director, she's the boss pronouns they she
John C Dvorak: is a she Oh,
Adam Curry: it gets better. As momentums Interim Executive
Director Amanda guides the team's institutional health
leadership team and fundraising strategy and supports the
largest strategic director of the direction of the
organization. They immigrated to one ponad land as a little
toddler, and now live in Lenape land aka Brooklyn.
John C Dvorak: When they're renaming the towns now
Adam Curry: after the Indians who they stole the land from,
when they're not or when they're not organizing or wrapped in the
world of momentum. You can catch them jamming out to live music,
reading sci fi in a local park or cooking their mom's just one
recipes. Okay. We have the Operations Coordinator, Brenda
Valladares Velez, what
John C Dvorak: is the point of the show this one references at
some code. We've got code in
Adam Curry: Chinese. She's a she's Chinese. Brenda Vala data.
John C Dvorak: She's Chinese and concerned about the American
Indians.
Adam Curry: Yes, they are not she they.
John C Dvorak: Brenda says she they she I call her she
Adam Curry: Okay, well, Brenda Valadez bellezza is the
Operations Coordinator. Her pronouns are she her and Ella?
Ella. She is formerly an undocumented immigrant from
Peru.
John C Dvorak: She should be exported, exported.
Adam Curry: extradite I like exported, recently moved from
Paterson, New Jersey to Washington Heights. She loves to
travel and explore different parts of the world watch
documentaries, video, chat with loved ones, study law and cook
big meals. So this is all these are all lesbians of color.
Maoists. Marxists. I love Delain Andrea powerful she's managing
director pronouns they them, them spelled th e m m e, them.
Delaine is a disabled black, queer Jamaican who lives in
organises on the occupied lands of the Council of the three
fires, the Ojibwe, Odawa and Potawatomi nations in Chicago,
Illinois. They enjoy play. To me, they enjoy playing soccer
being a plant Auntie whining, a plant Auntie, I'm just replant
onto ESP la NTAO en ti a plant Auntie whining In their waste
and absorbing all things, all things AFUE and absorbing all
things afrofuturist, Octavia Butler and Marvel universe this
is the whole page is filled with this kind of people
John C Dvorak: that are complete crackpots.
Adam Curry: And they're organizing and training the
children of all these schools, all these protests. It's all
part. It's all
John C Dvorak: political people. It's
Adam Curry: all political and to prove it, who shows up in the
Atlantic with an article titled Netanyahu, his attack on
democracy left Israel unprepared, none other than an
apple bomb, oh, our friend and and says this summer I spent
several days in Israel talking with people who were afraid for
their country's future. They were not at that moment focused
on terrorism, Gaza or Hamas, they feared something different,
the emergence of an undemocratic Israel, a de facto autocracy.
I'm just skipping ahead. Thanks to the financial and logistic
support of the Israeli tech industry, the most dynamic
economic sector in the country as well as to organize teams of
people coming from academia and the Army Reserves. The protests
kept going for many months successfully blocked many of the
proposed legal changes. This is all about the fascist the
dictator Netanyahu. And here we get into the meat of it. The
deep angry divides in Israeli politics divides that are
religious and cultural, but that were also deliberately created
by Netanyahu and his extremist allies for their political and
personal benefit weren't just a problem for some liberal or
secular Israelis. The people I met believed the polarization of
Israel was an existential risk for everybody is worse than
climate change. Earlier this year, the head of Shin Bet the
Israeli domestic intelligence service warned that Israeli
settlers who were attacking West Bank Palestinians pose a
security threat to the country. One member of Parliament from
net now whose Likud party responded using language that
will sound familiar to Americans. Quote, The ideology
of the left has reached the top echelons of the Shin Bet the
Deep State has infiltrated the leadership of Shin Bet and the
IDF. And here it comes. If Donald Trump becomes president,
again, they made deliberately set out to weaken the
institutions themselves. Yes, this is exactly what we're
seeing here. This is all about training the Democrats to make
sure that Trump doesn't get elected. It's all about Trump
all about Trump. These protests are about Trump, the all of this
stuff. These trainees are hate Trump. They're all trans
Maoists. They're bad for America and probably bad for your
children. Well, the whole thing is about politics, all of it.
All of it. And some of it is about obviously the military
industrial complex that's foxes job really, you know, they're
supposed to, oh, CNN has the generals on it like that. But
here's judge Jeanine
Unknown: In fact, I would say bomb a bomb and then bomb again.
That's a new one.
John C Dvorak: It's a new one that's totally new. Yeah,
Adam Curry: that's she's she's completely gone back to her old
bomb bomb bomb again that she has this she loves bombing
people.
Unknown: You have this one to loading bomb stealing. You're
getting new pilots in. But they're going in and they're
going in hard. They know that. That their their existence
depends on this.
Adam Curry: She's she I think she digs it, man. She's like,
Oh, yeah. So hot. They're gonna go in hard. Hard. Here's the
last one.
Unknown: Somebody's going to drop a new care. I don't know
who it is. But I don't want to watch it.
Adam Curry: What does that even mean? Judge Jeanine? Somebody's
gonna drop a nuke here. What is wrong with these people? Got it
other than they're out there doing any
John C Dvorak: help and things as for sure. No, of
Adam Curry: course not. It's horrible. It's horrible. And
social media playing right into it is beautiful. The whole thing
is a perfect setup. Everybody's spinning out. Oh, yeah, I'm
going crazy. So great. Oh, there's we got to have a
telegram telegram
John C Dvorak: is both a messaging and social media app.
People in the United States and across the world. Use it to
video call and text message each other or someone can set up a
group to send messages to followers.
Adam Curry: By the way, Rumble was already on the way out
telegram is next.
John C Dvorak: That second use is what we've seen most during
the Israel Hamas war. When Hamas attacked southern Israel on
October 7, their channel was flooded with propaganda videos
showcasing their training and the fight against the nearby
Israel Defense Forces. Both the Hamas account and the one for
its military wing. The Al Qassam brigades have grown
substantially since the war began. The Hamas account has
gained more than 100,000 followers while brigade account
has fallen.
Adam Curry: So here is Deutsche revelat. That was Scripps news.
That's just you know, they're promoting it more than anything.
Deutsche chavalla is
John C Dvorak: I would mentioned Scripps news is really is really
a very questionable source of news. I've been watching the TV
feed, it's borderline disgusting.
Adam Curry: Do you know who owns most of Fredericksburg?
Unknown: Scripts? You bet.
Adam Curry: Oh, yep, yep.
John C Dvorak: You bet.
Adam Curry: I received it. I remember
John C Dvorak: even when I said I almost said 100% I stopped
myself.
Adam Curry: I know I'm working on myself. I'm trying I'm trying
I really am. Yep, yep, yep, yep. Yep. Yep. As far as I know, nice
people actually but the the news is
John C Dvorak: long gone from this system that
Adam Curry: don't run it anymore. So here's Dorabella
telegraphing about telegram.
Unknown: Another front and the fast evolving conflict between
Israel and Hamas is the one found online. Disinformation is
running rampant across social media where millions turn to get
real time updates. And with the very real imagery or floods of
fabricated videos and photos spread by both fake and real
accounts. The companies behind giants like Facebook X and tick
tock say they've taken additional steps to tackle
disinformation around the violence. But the EU has
reprimanded social media companies for not doing enough
and about all that we can now speak to Caitlin chin Rothman,
she's with the Center for Strategic and International
Studies, where she researches the impact of technology on
geopolitics and society. Caitlin, good to see you. Lots
of people these days getting their information on social
media, With tensions running so high. How are both sides in this
conflict using social media to share views of the war,
we've seen? Both Hamas and the Israeli government use posts on
social media quite often, Hamas has been posting on a platform
called telegram which is less popular in the United States in
the EU, but more popular in other parts of the world, like
Russia and Ukraine. Telegram has very loose content moderation
policies, which has allowed moss to post very graphic or violent
images from its initial attack on October 7,
I want to look a little closer at telegram that you just
mentioned because it's used by Hamas, not only to spread
propaganda, but also to recruit new members now is an
internationally recognized terror organization. By much of
the West at least, can the platform be held accountable for
that.
So it's very difficult and have very loose content moderation
laws, so platforms are generally not held accountable for third
party content that users upload. Now that is different. In other
countries, especially the EU, which recently passed the
Digital Services Act. And the online service, online safety
bill in the United Kingdom is about to come into effect. Now,
Telegram has not seen as much regulatory attention from the EU
or the UK, I think partly because it's just not as popular
in in either jurisdiction. But I think going forward, I would
expect governments to become more interested in how telegram
operates, especially if we continue to see violent
extremist content emerge on these platforms in real time or
situations.
Adam Curry: This is the perfect moment to clamp down on these
because of course we're in a in an election season. A very good
moment to start clamping down on this stuff because clearly,
telegram is a recruitment tool. Yes, PBS has some short little
note here and all the horrible things from social media
Unknown: to European Union press to meta and tick tock to explain
what they're doing to block disinformation about Israel
Hamas war Do you know air tech giants were given one week to
respond? They could face billions in fines if they don't
comply with a new law aimed at protecting users from false
claims and other harmful content.
Adam Curry: And this brings us to a gripe a lot of people have
with me, but are you with me and also with you? Me the Oh yeah.
Yes, you and this is because we poo pooed and I would say
slammed the Westminster declaration
John C Dvorak: da Qing was Adam curry.
Adam Curry: Yes where Pearl clutching I read an email Lord
Hi Imperator curry. Greetings from FEMA Region Deep South New
Zealand. I need to take
John C Dvorak: Oh New Zealand, this New Zealand In New Zealand
but they have What the hell's a New Zealand are got to do With
anything that has to do with this American
Adam Curry: ship is just indicative of several emails and
tweets and tweets I
John C Dvorak: received. It sounds sounds fake but go on
reading now it's
Adam Curry: not fake and you just did a Kara Swisher but go
ahead. But go ahead go,
John C Dvorak: Wait a minute. That was my invention now you're
crediting her with it.
Adam Curry: I need to take issue with the tone of your no agenda
story and the Westminster declaration. You are downright
snide and your trademark MTV snare so new you know
John C Dvorak: him reading this letter is snide. He already
shrewd straight up with other things you
Adam Curry: are downright snide with your trademark MTB sneer
was used to in effect on a group of people merely highlighting
the censorship regimes being installed in Oh, Western
democracies. Why wouldn't you be supportive of this? I expected
immediate fierce pushback from Jhansi Dvorak but nothing he
joined you, the snidely brothers brothers in harm's
John C Dvorak: unkindly brothers. I love it
Adam Curry: uncool in the gang. Kiwi Paul,
John C Dvorak: I'm cool in the gang. Holy mackerel. This guy
should be a copywriter.
Adam Curry: He's good. He's good. He's good. So I we have
been doing this since episode 133. We have to do it every five
to six years. And we're going to do it again. I will start off by
saying the Westminster declaration was released on the
very day, the very day the FCC voted and agreed to create new
rules for the reintroduction of net neutrality. I'm sure it's
just a coincidence. Although I say there's no coincidences in
the kingdom. And they say they want article 19 to be observed
and adhered to, from the Universal Declaration of Human
Rights. Now, any no agenda person should immediately think,
Hmm, that's the United Nations document, maybe not the best
thing in the world. But doesn't matter. Let's look at article
19. Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and
expression. This right includes freedom to hold opinions without
interference and to seek, receive and impart information
and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers. So
that's what you're really going to bat over. May I remind you,
Glenn Greenwald, Mata Eb, these are leftists, just because you
agree with them on lock downs and vaccines and what doesn't
mean that they're not inherently they they love government
regulation. That's what these guys love they, they thrive on
it. You will not get free speech from commercial platforms or
maybe from anything called a platform at all. And what they
are calling for in my mind because it coincides exactly
with the vote, which was three to two is net neutrality. And we
have had so much pushback in the past about our stance on net
neutrality. And people said, why wouldn't you want it to be
neutral man? Because net neutrality is as honest as the
sorry is always net neutrality is as honest as the inflation
Reduction Act. Haven't we learned these things by now?
When they call it something? It means the opposite? Did you like
your cell phone alert from the government? Did you everyone was
bitching and moaning about hey man, the government taking over
my phone? That'll be on every computer you own? If this goes
through, and this will lead to digital ID that is the end game
of what they're really asking for. Anonymity will end there
goes your trolling because they want title to to adhere to the
internet. Now I listened to FCC chair Rosen Borssele. She was on
the FCC panel back during Obama when they went through this the
first time. And she is now the chair. And I want to go through
a few things from her speech and subsequently play a few
historical no agenda clips because we've been through this
before. You don't want it. You do not want the government with
their net neutrality is a trick
Unknown: but you know, the pandemic did something else. It
made crystal clear that broadband is no longer just nice
to have. It's nice to have for everyone everywhere. It's not a
luxury. It's a necessity. It is essential infrastructure for me
Modern life. No one without it has a fair shot at 21st century
success. We need broadband to reach 100% of us. And we need it
to be fast, open and fair.
Adam Curry: Okay, this is the slogan, go get the bumper
sticker, get your T shirt fast, open and fair. Now I've not I
don't have a huge argument with the idea that everybody should
have broadband. For some reason we've never been able to really
get it together. Even though we've spent hundreds of millions
of dollars given that to telephone companies to create a
broadband for everybody broadband for all this goes back
to Obama. It just got stolen. But a portion of the country
still doesn't have it. But that's really the ruse using the
pandemic, all man. Well, without broadband we couldn't leave.
John C Dvorak: When we do that, is that lame is rousse? That
ruse is the one who can't wait, what is brought what is one got
to do with the other COVID had nothing to do with the you know,
Adam Curry: when we were locked down. That's that's what she was
at this show. But
John C Dvorak: you go to school? Yes,
Adam Curry: I chopped a whole bunch out of this for obvious
reasons. So what she wants, he's on par with the telephone
networks
Unknown: back in the era when communications meant telephony
each and every call went through. And the phone company
could not cut you off from your call or decide to edit the
content of your Converse. What
Adam Curry: do you want to say something here?
John C Dvorak: What world was she living in? When you had to
put a quarter in and you hit the you got the yak, yak, yak and
then you click, you're done. They cut you off? What do you
mean, they never cut you off? They cut you off all the time.
This so where does that debt imaginary scenario come from?
Adam Curry: This is to trick everybody into wanting this.
She's lying. I'll get to that. Is it a blatant lie? Oh, there's
another Whopper coming up
Unknown: from your call or decide to edit the content of
your conversation. Now fast forward to the present.
Communications means a whole lot more than just phone calls. It
means access to the internet, because broadband is the most
important infrastructure of our time.
Adam Curry: No the important, important she's she's very
young, important.
Unknown: But as a result of the previous FCCS decision to drop,
abdicate authority. The agency charged with overseeing
Communications has limited ability to oversee these
indispensable networks, and make sure that for every consumer,
their access is fast
Adam Curry: note that she talks about consumers if you're a
creator, screw you,
Unknown: open and fair. I think that's not right. It's not
right. Because for everyone everywhere to enjoy the full
benefits of the Internet age, Internet access should be more
than just accessible and affordable. The Internet needs
to be
Adam Curry: what is more than just accessible and affordable.
John C Dvorak: Seems like accessible. And affordability is
really what it's all about. Oh, you want what more could you
want? Oh, hold
Unknown: on. And affordable. The Internet needs to be open. And
that's what I want to talk it is open
Adam Curry: now. No, she wants when when the government says I
want it to be open, please read that as I want it to be closed.
John C Dvorak: How is it not open right now? No, wait,
Adam Curry: they want to close it off? Yeah, I want to close it
off. Here we go. We're next clip. Let's
Unknown: start in 2005. That was when the FCC adopted its first
open Internet policy statement which was built on policies that
had long been in communications law and history. The agency made
clear that when it came to net neutrality, consumers should
expect that their broadband providers would not block
throttle or engage in paid prioritization of lawful
internet traffic.
Adam Curry: And there's my favorite word Yeah, there we go.
Not lawful content, lawful internet traffic and I have a
copy if anyone I've marked it up if you want to go through the
entire proposed rulemaking, 126 pages. The term lawful traffic
and lawful transfer is all over this thing. This is the main
problem. This is the trick.
Unknown: In other words, your broadband provider had no
business cutting off access to websites slowing down Internet
services and censoring online speech, which never
Adam Curry: happened.
John C Dvorak: There's not one example of that your broadband
brought the broadband internet provider just provides the
broadband he doesn't. He's not Twitter, they barely do
Unknown: that. Your broadband provider was not allowed to play
favorites like steering you fast to some online service that
hadn't given them a payout. It's never happened, and assigning
you to a bumpy road for those who have not offered, the same
never
John C Dvorak: happened. You're right. This is all bullcrap. But
But I hope you get to the end here because I want to know go
is your spiel about lawful
Adam Curry: now we're getting to that this is a presentation.
These clips are all very short. It's an important presentation.
And the next part is her explanation of why title to the
same regulation for your phone, your phone line. And there's
regulation, there's a lot of stuff you can do on the phone.
And the government, I think I'm pretty sure the government
completely can hear and do anything they want on your phone
networks. But we need title two now for the internet. Here's why
Unknown: title two is the part of the law that gives the FCC
clear authority to serve as a watchdog watchdog over the
communications marketplace and look out for the public
interest.
Adam Curry: Okay. I'm from the government. I'm here to help.
Title two
Unknown: took on special importance in the net neutrality
debate, because the courts have ruled that the FCC has clear
authority to enforce open Internet policies. If broadband
internet is classified as a title to service,
Adam Curry: very important what she's saying here, not saying
that the Court said you should you should be doing this. They
say if it is classified as title two, then the FCC has absolute
authority over the internet. Just trust uncle Adam and Uncle
John, you don't want this.
Unknown: And providing a strong foundation for net neutrality
rules is a good reason to support classifying broadband
internet as a title to service. But again, there are downstream
consequences that flow from the agency retreating from title to
Adam Curry: downstream consequences that flow that
doesn't sound healthy,
Unknown: and they need attention. So let me explain.
Back to the pandemic, it made clear that broadband is
essential infrastructure for modern life. access to the
internet is now access to everything gets access to
everything. And common sense tells us that the nation's
leading communications watchdog should have the muscle it needs.
Adam Curry: Muscle must
John C Dvorak: you give me a high blood pressure?
Adam Curry: I got a ball you don't have a phone. I need to do
something to kill. Yeah. Yes, you want to say something?
John C Dvorak: You know, listening to this is very
annoying, because I know that other people were laughing must
be laughing it out. And I would include the people that signed
that document. Yes, I lapping it up not realizing that it is a
trick we're getting complete. We're getting to the trick trick
getting
Unknown: to the trick should have the muscle it needs to
protect consumers and make sure their internet access is fast,
open
Adam Curry: and fair. Now to a big lie. Here's a big lie.
Unknown: On one issue after issue classifying broadband as a
title to service would help the FCC serve the public interest
more efficiently and effectively. So let's start with
public safety. And it's remanded the FCC has decision to rollback
net neutrality. The court found the agency's disregard of its
duty to analyze the impact of public safety renders the
decision arbitrary and capricious. I agree. Here we go.
The record before the court demonstrated that when
firefighters in Santa Clara, California, were responding to
wildfires, they discovered that the wireless connectivity on
their command vehicle was being throttled.
Adam Curry: Lie, that's a lie, because we reported on this in
Episode 1079, November 21 2018. Let's go back and let's listen
to what the story really was. And was it not Verizon, that
came into a very bad light? Because they cut off the
firefighters in California because they had run out of
data? Bastards. That's was Verizon, correct? I believe so.
And so the so these guys had the they couldn't use their account,
they had to switch to a different account according to
the Verizon rep, because they'd run out of data. And of course,
these guys have they're fighting fires and they needed data. And
so it was it was a bad PR story for Verizon. Let me just go back
and listen to what the FCC Chairwoman lied
Unknown: the record before the court demonstrated that when
firefighters in Santa Clara, California, were responding to
wildfires, they discovered the wireless connectivity on their
command vehicle was being throttled. It
Adam Curry: was not being throttled. So she's lying. As
usual, liars. All right. So what else? What do they really want
to do? Well, well, you know, we're not just here to make sure
you get cheap and affordable broadband. No
Unknown: Good cybersecurity security SEC is actively
involved in federal interagency cybersecurity planning,
coordination and response activities. You want the expert
agency with all sorts of knowledge about network
technology to be sitting at that table
John C Dvorak: at the stop it in Michigan. So this FCC, there's
so hot shit, blended done anything about to 10 or 20, robo
calls I get a day,
Adam Curry: I'm glad you asked
Unknown: then look at privacy. The law requires
telecommunications providers to protect the confidentiality of
the proprietary information of their customers. That means
these providers cannot sell your location data, among other
sensitive information. Well, I suppose not machines currently
extend to phone service customers, but not to broadband
subscribers, because title two does not cover the ladder. Does
that really make sense? Do we want our broadband providers
selling off where we go and what we do online? Scraping our
service for a payday Oh, new artificial intelligence models
doing any of this without our permission?
Adam Curry: Yeah. So you were one clip ahead of me. Exactly.
The robocalls still continue, they have done nothing with
their title to authority to stop that nothing, no,
John C Dvorak: nothing zip and they could do something if they
wanted to. And And meanwhile, this bowl credit, this other
stuff is all bull crap. The providers aren't tracking us.
Apple might be tracking us. Google might be tracking us
these are providers.
Adam Curry: So I pulled two clips. So we don't have to, you
know, just because we're lazy. We don't have to really go over
everything all over again. You see what happened? What is this?
What is this?
John C Dvorak: But I may revisit my old columns. I've been
writing about this for a decade.
Adam Curry: This is no agenda episode 950. And that is from
that is from July 27 2017.
John C Dvorak: This is Greg Wald, and he's a Republican from
Oregon. And he is the Hayes and this is an oversight
subcommittee. But he's actually the head guy of the Energy and
Commerce Committee. He's the chair and he is a very powerful
person. And just listen to the question he asked this is net
neutrality basics opening, including Comcast
Unknown: AT and T, Verizon and Charter Communications, inviting
each of them to come and testify before our full Energy and
Commerce Committee. It's time for Congress to legislate the
rules of the internet, long game of regulations and litigation.
And make no mistake given the importance of this public policy
debate. And the work we need to do as a committee. It is
essential that we hear directly from the country's top internet,
and edge provider leaders who frequently speak out publicly
about rules of the internet. His time they came before us and
directly shared their positions, and answered our questions.
Adam Curry: Wow. Yeah, I think there's some subtext, there
Unknown: is a little more than subtext. Time to stop
Adam Curry: this, these series of tubes.
John C Dvorak: That's the guy when he said, quote, it's time
for Congress to legislate the rules of the internet Boom
shakalaka. Could it be any more clear? Does anybody out there
listening
Adam Curry: to podcast licenses coming? That's what will happen
with net neutrality. That's what happens with title two, it's
time to legislate the rules of the internet, hate speech is
already illegal in 49 states, whatever that means. Now, to the
genesis of our reporting, we go back to 2009. No agenda, Episode
133. And this brings back the Core term here the fifth
principle of non discrimination. The fifth principle is one of
non discrimination stating that broadband providers cannot
discriminate against particular Internet content or
applications. This means they cannot block or degrade lawful
traffic over their networks or pick lawful traffic. Okay, so
that means they're gonna have to sniff it. I mean, it's all in
here, right? You can just see what they're doing lawful
traffic, what is lawful traffic? Okay, all traffic is lawful.
It's
John C Dvorak: so I think we should just sorry that we should
declare that the last 20 years was the golden age of porn. It's
all
Adam Curry: over. It's all over. That's right. They cannot
disfavor an internet service just because it competes with a
similar service. This principle will not prevent broadband
providers from reasonably managing their networks during
periods of network congestion. For example, it may be
appropriate for providers to ensure that very heavy users do
not crowd out everyone else, like BitTorrent users. And this
principle will not constrain efforts to ensure a safe, secure
and spam free internet experience. I don't want a safe,
secure spam free internet experience. I want porn. I want
popups. I want all kinds of viruses. That's what makes the
internet cool. And there it is. We've been doing this for 16
years. You don't want your Westminster declaration from a
bunch of bunch of, by the way, the Westminster declaration.
Isn't that bizarre, like against catechism or something that was
like, it's like a bunch of atheists hijacking some
religious vibe. I
John C Dvorak: have no idea. But you do not. It was a reference
to something else. You don't
Adam Curry: want net neutrality. It sounds great. But just
remember net neutrality is as honest as the inflation
Reduction Act.
John C Dvorak: Well, let's get back to the this lawful thing,
which is a pet peeve of yours and I think is the crux of the
basis. That's the crux, which is torrents will be illegal you
have a Tory packet sniffer tour will be illegal season sees the
door Torian whatever you want to call it. Yeah, advertising, it
sees it says up nap no good. This means anyone out there who
thinks you're gonna download music or or big giant files from
each other, or I think they'll probably put the archive.org got
a business and everything in between. This whole thing is a
Adam Curry: it's always about copyright. Of course, it's
always driven by the movie or the movie companies. Yeah, they
always
John C Dvorak: losing 10 cents or a buck. Because you know,
there's somebody's downloaded an old copy of some movie from the
30s. And they could have probably maybe big somebody,
there's no available copy of it. But you know, Turner Classic
Movies likes to play it once a year. And so you're you're
you're taking money for even though they don't do
advertising, but you're still taking their bread and butter
away. I mean, this whole thing is always about the movie
industry. It's about the the, it's about the content to cut
the copyrighted content and how it's, I own it, I get to do what
I want with it.
Adam Curry: So throughout this entire document, these are the
things you need to be looking out for. And this is their
proposed rules. And this will take a little bit, but they've
gone through the initial hurdle of and that was three weeks
after the speech and that was on the 19th. So it was on our last
show day they voted three to two good to go. We're gonna go move
forward with the rulemaking process the same day those
Yahoo's came out with their with their Westminster declaration,
in order to fit the technical and economic realities of the
broadband ecosystem. The restrictions on blocking and
discrimination will be made subject to an exception for
quote, reasonable network management, allowing service
providers the freedom to address legitimate needs, such as
avoiding network congestion and combating harmful or illegal
content. Well, go look at go I mean, this is this is exactly
what you don't want. Because it's open to interpretation.
What is harmful?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, vibe antivax information that was
accurate about the about the about the vaccine. Is that
harmful force? Of course, people think it is. So So you know, you
have one group of people that think that information is good
and valuable. And another group say, Oh, it's terrible. It's
making people so they're reluctant to take the VAX.
Adam Curry: Additionally, we propose to reinstate a general
conduct standard that would prohibit practices that would
cause unreasonable interference or unreasonable disadvantage to
consumers or edge providers. So what is reasonable? They don't
define it, of course, no, you can't define it. No. And then
it's safeguarding national security. So the NSA is going to
be in the network, they're going to have to be able to safeguard
it's for your protection. All of this is for your protection.
Commission's efforts in coordinating with coordination
with other agencies will be protecting the nation's
communications network from entities and equipment and
services. That pose I mean, listen to this equipment and
services that pose threats to national security and law
enforcement. Someone's using graphene OS. Orange Alert.
Orange Alert. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Someone has a non approved
device. Yep. Yep. Someone has a non approved device connected to
it. And we these efforts will be pursued into Presidential Policy
Directive 21. But go look at that. That's a doozy, which
tasked the commission FCC with identifying communication sector
vulnerabilities, and working with industry and other
stakeholders to address those vulnerabilities and increase the
security and resilience of this critical infrastructure within
the communication sector. And here's my favorite. Another
initiative is the Commission's inquiry into vulnerable
vulnerabilities threatening the security and integrity of Border
Gateway Protocol, which impacts the transmission of data from e
mail, e commerce and bank transactions, two interconnected
Voice over IP and 911 calls. The Commission noted that border
gateway protocols initial design, which remains widely
deployed today does not include security features to ensure
trust in the information it is used to exchange. This is going
after DNS. They want DNS they want they want to be able to
disconnect your entire network segment.
John C Dvorak: See, they want to be able to pull the plug in who
they don't like yes and who they don't like. It allows
Adam Curry: a bad network actor to deliberately falsify BGP
reachability information to redirect traffic to itself
through a specific third party network, which means that's what
they want to do, but you said being self Alright, man, we
should be able to redirect us and prevent traffic from
reaching its intended recipient. reclassification would provide
the commission with additional authority to address BGP
vulnerabilities. There's enough dudes named Ben out there who
know that this is nuts so so when we have these these
intellectual Dark Web people all lefties Brett Weinstein all all
leftists who are saying hey, man, we should be able to we
shouldn't be kicked off of Twitter or Facebook. And that
should be fair we should about to say we want to say you're
gonna get it you're gonna get exactly what you want. get
exactly what you want.
John C Dvorak: I wonder who is behind that thing? I don't
believe it was tyy or Greenwald or not guys who initiate face
these things. Had to be someone else that's
Adam Curry: a good point. I'm just
John C Dvorak: one of those get there's a there's a troublemaker
in that group. You got to get got the
Adam Curry: well crowd riled up. Well, it's Greenwalt anti EB are
leading the charge at the top of the list.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's what you'd put if I was putting
something together like that, that those are the two guys they
got two big numbers. They got a lot of attention to themselves.
They seem legit in every way. I would put them at the top of the
list too. But I would, I'd be there's got to be somebody that
organized this and it wasn't them.
Adam Curry: That's a good plus, look at the list again. So Ty EB
Shallenberger
John C Dvorak: Shellenberger sounds more like it.
Adam Curry: Yeah, Shallenberger. And he Well, he's he went to
court. I mean, and again, I agree with a lot of the things
Shellenberger has said and done. Yeah, but he's, but he's
misguided. Jonathan Haidt, ha ha IDT. He's, he's written a lot
about bad things that happen to people with social networks. I'm
Steven Pinker. These that's his partner. I think Julian Assange
is on here.
John C Dvorak: To get him to sign anything.
Adam Curry: I don't know Tim Robbins is on onboard. He's
right at the Robins. I think Tim Robbins. I doubt it. John Cleese
biggest Wait. Hey, man, we need to leave Oliver Stone all left
this?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the Oh yeah. All of them.
Adam Curry: Jordan Peterson, Barry Weiss, Peter Hitchens.
Niall Ferguson. Yanis Varoufakis a Marxist.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Open Marxist. Yeah. So that is a
couple open Marxists on there. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, there's no
right what name one right winger? I mean, you might make
the argument that Peterson is kind of a right winger, but I
don't know I don't know. But he but there's name a you know,
some. You have classic, classic, classic classic people listed on
there. But you don't have the classic people on the right.
There's nobody
Adam Curry: no, no, they needed a John C Dvorak and Adam curry
on this list and they if there's money in it
John C Dvorak: a lot of these people are very well put your
names off these things. People a lot
Adam Curry: of these people are wealthy too. Not all but many of
them are
John C Dvorak: quite well and one last thing about the net
neutrality thing we have to remember because they keep
saying it's got to be fair and you know cheap. I use one of my
networks is Sonic. Sonic has two programs. They have a gigabit
and they have a two gigabit. Well, I have to pay more for the
two gigabit that would be kicked off That's kicked off the planet
because I, there's no why would it? That's unfair gotta have to
pay more to get to a higher speed free. Everything would be
downgraded faster your speeds will go down with net neutrality
fast, open and fair. So it because everyone has to have the
same speed, it's a way of leveling the playing field,
meaning you're gonna get whatever the minimum is.
Adam Curry: Is everyone happy with their telephone service?
Now that's under Title two.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I'm still getting the calls, I get a call
from Eliza.
Adam Curry: The robot had that so that worked really well.
Anyway, I put a link in to open internet.gov, the archive.org
version because that was the previous you can just you can go
review. That was the previous website. That's gone now of
course. Yeah, you got to spam free internet. No, if someone's
telling you, you can get a spam free internet than they are
sniffing packets or doing something.
John C Dvorak: That's a lie. What they're doing is lying
there.
Adam Curry: Because they want control. And even the
Republicans as you heard, they're ready for it. Yes, it's
time to moderate that thing. And why are they doing it? They're
doing it now because they want to get stuff rammed through so
they can control elections. control what's going on during
elections? It's obvious.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so they can keep Trump out.
Adam Curry: It all comes back down the Trump. She's a Wesleyan
grad. Exactly. Well,
John C Dvorak: let's talk about the campaign then. With a little
overview. This is the clip is 1024 campaign is about 2024 Just
put the one in there for you by accident.
Unknown: And not a Democrat may soon enter the 2024 presidential
race challenging President Biden for the nomination. This comes
as a new poll today shows former President Trump is leading over
Biden and a potential 2024 matchup. Entities area and past
our house and election update
back my bipartisan pathways to Congressman Dean Phillips is
reportedly planning to enter the 2024 presidential race.
Political reports the Minnesota Democrat could challenge
President Biden for the Democratic nomination. Phillips
is reportedly laying the groundwork in key early states,
paving the way for the announcement of his presidential
run. This comes as a new poll on Friday shows former President
Trump is leading over Biden in a potential 2024 matchup. The new
Emerson College poll shows that 47% of voters say they'd vote
for Trump 45% say they're supporting Biden, less than 10%
are undecided. The same poll gives Trump an even stronger
lead when it comes to young voters. Emerson found that Trump
leads Biden by 11 points in voters in their 30s. Just on
Friday, Trump attacked Biden on truth social for the president's
handling of International Affairs. Trump says the Israel
War started because of the Biden administration and their
policies of weakness and appeasement. He added this is
true also with Ukraine, Russia, which would never have started
under the Trump administration and many other hotspots around
the globe that could easily lead to big problems and deaf.
Meanwhile, Republicans with less approval in the polls are
fighting each other, especially Florida Governor Ron DeSantis,
and former South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley. The two
went back and forth all week long on the issue of taking in
refugees from Gaza. Now just on Friday, Haley released a new
campaign at directly targeting DeSantis
Adam Curry: I find it very interesting that she still is
out there and trying to get some some
John C Dvorak: actions get big. She's got big Silicon Valley
money behind I think she has big oil money behind her too. Yes,
she's got money. She got lots of money that she hasn't got she
Money doesn't buy charisma. Charisma. She
Adam Curry: got her asthma.
John C Dvorak: She hasn't got that she hasn't got enough of
that to get by. Which is a shame for her. But I don't like her
policies anyway. She's really anti Trump. She's pro war. She
might as well be a neocon. He's
Adam Curry: very pro war. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: The law McGann
Adam Curry: the big anti Trump news that we had to stop, you
know, breaking news by the way, notice that all the NBC channels
they're you know, they're all pro Palestine and it's not
because they hate Jews or care about Palestinians. It's because
Trump that's their base their their viewers are the people who
are mind controlled by these by this this outfit to go out and
protest. It's all it's all antitrust. It's all political,
has they? They're actually the worst people in the world
because they really don't care. Either way. They don't care
who's killed or who's whose babies heads are chopped off
faster than the other. They don't care. It's about Trump.
And boy where the network's happy with this news Sydney
Unknown: Catherine Powell she
was at the center of Donald Trump's effort to overturn his
2020 laws publicly pushing outlandish claims of election
fraud and privately meeting with the former president inside the
White House. But tonight, just one day before her trial was set
to begin, Sidney Powell pleading guilty and agreeing to cooperate
with prosecutors. Miss Powell. Do
you understand the charges that are against you here today?
Do Paolo spread the false conspiracy theory Georgia
election machines were controlled by Venezuela even
pointing a finger at the country's former dictator Hugo
Chavez, who was dead.
This was exported from Venezuela and by Maduro and by Mr. Chavez.
This is the consummate foreign interference in our election in
an Oval
Office meeting on December 18 2020. Powell allegedly
suggesting Trump name her special counsel to investigate
election fraud. In that same meeting, Trump and his team
allegedly weighed seizing voting machines, even declaring martial
law. As part of her plea deal. Powell is now required to
testify against her co defendants, including the former
president.
Adam Curry: So that's the ABC version and by the way, what she
so what she pled guilty to a plea deal, which is probably
what she needed to do to not, you know,
John C Dvorak: yeah, I have I have another clip about the
other guy who just did the plea deal after she did. And if you
listen, if you listen to it, and read between the lines is the
Georgia clip says Georgia, if you read between the lines or
listen between the lines, these guys are doing this just to say
I mean they're not getting any jailer and they're doing it to
save their their
Adam Curry: day go broke pocketbook. I only have Georgia
plea bargain too. Is there a one?
John C Dvorak: Unfortunately no.
Unknown: A northern Georgia defendant cuts a deal attorney
Ken Chesbro gets five years probation and exchange for
cooperating with prosecutors. That leaves 16 defendants
including former President Trump in the Fulton County Rico case.
Here's more from Legal Correspondent Arlene Richards.
Another day another plea deal. Third defendant in the sprawling
Georgia election racketeering case pleads guilty. He's the
second attorney to do so but the only one to accept a felony
charge.
How do you plead to count 15 conspiracy to commit filing
false documents in indictment number two three sc 188947.
Guilty guilty
attorney Ken Chesbro was facing six felony charges in the
election fraud case brought by prosecutor Fani Willis against
19. Defendants father, prosecutor said she would have
shown at trial.
Adam Curry: I thought it was Fanny now it's funny. It's funny
how I love Yes,
Unknown: several other defendants entered into a
criminal conspiracy to cause certain other co conspirators
including David James Shaffer, Sean mica, fair Thrasher steel
and Kathleen Austin Latham to falsely hold themselves out as
the duly elected and qualified electors for the President and
Vice President from Georgia following the November 3 2020
presidential election.
Adam Curry: This is interesting. So I think Georgia is one of the
few places where you can be you can put a whole bunch of things
together and then call it a conspiracy. So these conspiracy
charges that that Sidney Powell pled guilty to are misdemeanors,
I mean, she's she got like, $5,000 fine. And it was
literally to commit international interference with
performance of election duties. By him know what that means.
Sydney, this,
John C Dvorak: this, this is one of those situations where people
should realize that if the government insert, especially
state governments that are corrupt at the point at the
district attorney at the district attorney level, and
they just want to go after you by dumping stuff on you, and
they have an amenable judge can't be it because most judges
that aren't you know, amenable to this sort of thing that you
said they just throw the case out immediately. So we got
better things to do with our time. But you had that
situation. The perfect kind of the perfect storm. Your screwed
Adam Curry: friend of ours went to jail for 18 months over
something stupid or
John C Dvorak: yeah, very similar that da had a grudge.
Adam Curry: Yep. And had a relationship with the with the
prosecution. Yep, there's no harm, no financial harm, but off
off to the big house. CBS their version, Sidney Powell, the
conspiracy peddling FORMER ATTORNEY FOR FBI the way we do
hang with criminals is kind of cool to say when we're
Unknown: President Donald Trump sat in a Fulton County courtroom
today and admitted to her role in the breach of voting systems
in Georgia. Are you
pleading guilty today because you agree that there is a
sufficient factual basis that there are enough facts that
support this plea of guilty? And then
Powell was sentenced to six years probation will pay 1000s
in fines and write an apology letter to this citizens of
Georgia
Adam Curry: love that. You have to write on the blackboard 50
times I will not commit this bad conspiracy
Unknown: along with Trump. She was one of 19 defendants in the
case brought by district attorney Fadi Willis finally
agreed to testify truthfully against her co defendants at
future trials.
If I'm Donald Trump, or I'm Donald Trump's lawyer, I would
certainly not be happy.
Beyond Georgia Power was a central figure in pushing
Trump's false election denial claim.
President Trump won by a landslide. In a now
infamous December 2020 Oval Office showdown, Powell pushed
to cease voting machines to look for fraud. And although Trump
entertained her conspiracy theories, some White House
lawyers were appalled.
What they were proposing,
I thought was nuts, pounds impact that's not
Adam Curry: the same as being appalled. He thought it was
nuts. He wasn't appalled
Unknown: by thought was nuts. How's impact on Trump and others
in the case could be significant. You were
ever in the room with Sidney Powell. You are very, very
nervous.
Adam Curry: Now what you notice from the reporting and I had to
go in I had to look for about 10 minutes to find out what she
actually pled guilty to all of this is they make it sound like
she committed some horrible offense and they just, you know,
they don't actually tell you what she pled guilty to. And
here's the final one from NBC tonight.
John C Dvorak: That last one was ABC when I was CBS. Last one was
CBS. CBS. I just want to mention your comment about that was nuts
and saying that was appalled. He guy was appalled when he wasn't
that's very different, I think is a great example of slanted
coverage.
Unknown: NBC tonight once an attorney then a co defendant now
a cooperator. How do
you plead to the six counts of conspiracy to commit
Adam Curry: once an attorney has she been disbarred? I don't
think she's been disbarred. Has she been just I don't
John C Dvorak: think so. What is it in her day? Then? The bar
dispersion not to a judge. You know you're a criminal
Unknown: Knight once an attorney than a co defendant now a
cooperator. How
do you plead to the six counts of conspiracy to commit
intentional interferes with all forms of election duties
Adam Curry: guilty. So that was interesting. NBC puts it right
at the top of the report,
Unknown: Sidney Powell, one of 19 charged alongside the former
president in a sprawling conspiracy to overturn the 2020
election results in Georgia pleading guilty to six reduced
charges in court today, just as jury selection for her trial was
set to begin tomorrow.
Do you agree that there is a sufficient factual basis that
there are enough facts that support this plea of guilty and
then
Adam Curry: see what they're doing? This is great.
Unknown: Remarkable about face for one of Mr. Trump's fiercest
defenders. I'm going
to release the Kraken
pushing the basis.
John C Dvorak: Oh, well done. Not really crack and go. Kudos
Adam Curry: kudos for NBC on the crack.
John C Dvorak: Very good edit Gerawan gorilla
Unknown: bout face for one of Mr. Trump's fiercest defenders.
I'm going to release the Kraken often pushing baseless
conspiracy theories the last election,
President Trump won by a landslide, we are going to prove
it.
Instead, she's now admitted to helping organize the breach of
sensitive voting equipment in a rural elections office agreeing
as part of the new plea deal with prosecutors to write an
apology letter to the people of Georgia handover documents to
investigators and come clean about all that she knows about
her former client as Mr. Trump continues to fight the charges
against him
Adam Curry: here to testify truthfully, against any so this
is interesting. So the the voice over here says to come clean
about all what everything she knows and come clean. No. The
only thing because right it's followed by the truth. You will
testify truthfully as part
Unknown: of the new plea deal with prosecutors to write an
apology letter to the people of Georgia hand over documents to
investigators and come clean about all that she knows about
her former client as Mr. Trump continues to fight the charges
against him
here to testify truthfully, against any and all co
defendants in this matter at any upcoming proceedings.
Pals testimony, likely an asset for the Fulton County DA who has
now managed to secure two guilty pleas so far,
Adam Curry: I mean to testify truthfully doesn't mean that's
an advantage to the prosecution. No, it
John C Dvorak: could be a disadvantage, and she's probably
Adam Curry: thought of yeah, I'll testify truthfully. Yeah,
sure.
John C Dvorak: Why wouldn't you? That's what you do. That's what
you're supposed to do. That's what happens when he pledged to
testify. And
Adam Curry: once you have a plea deal, that's it. They can't
renege on that. I don't think yeah, they can unless you're
Hunter Biden.
John C Dvorak: No, they can they can Oh, there's a lot of
different ways you don't watch enough criminals TV shows. I
don't
Adam Curry: don't Sorry. No good.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they can renege. But they won't. They
don't have time for it because it's costing them money too.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they just You know, make it sound like she's
got some the goods, she has the goods gonna come clean and turn
and turn in trunk beds because he was obviously wringing his
hands going, here's what we're going to do, ladies. I don't
think so.
Adam Curry: That was good. I love that. Let's see, of course,
we had on the last show day we had President Biden doing his
primetime message. What did you think his jacked up factor was?
John C Dvorak: I gave him a five it was low. I
Adam Curry: agree. I was expecting more jaggedness. But
around four minutes, he started to stutter and he was coughing.
John C Dvorak: Oh, they didn't keep him on long. Was very don't
get enough juice. They don't leave money they have to if they
give him a good hotshot just below enough to kill him. He'll
go even on our good hotshot.
Yeah.
Unknown: All right. Here's ABC News reports night, for the
first time the US has taken military action in this war to
defend
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, that's not the right one. That's not
the right one. Here is CBS. That's what I'm
Unknown: we're going to begin with a very forceful message
from President Biden last night. Did you see it? He's urging the
American people to rally around Israel and Ukraine. The
President made his case last night in a rare primetime
address from the Oval Office. You're rare? No kidding. He
argued that the US should not should not let partisan politics
get in the way of billions of dollars of new aid to those
countries. A clear message to Congress
the president speech comes as the US faces criticism in the
Arab world for supporting Israel, and its controversial
bombing campaign in Gaza, with the possible ground invasion
looming. For more on this critical moment in global
politics. Let's bring in ED O'KEEFE who is at the White
House, Edie? Good morning.
Nate, good to see you for the first time last night the
President tied together the conflict in Ukraine and the
conflict in the Middle East. Alright, stay us engagement,
John C Dvorak: how many times you're getting it could mean
you're gonna pass off the story.
Adam Curry: What do you mean, pass it off?
John C Dvorak: That one guy comes on and he passes off to
number two and number two passes off to number three? Do they
ever tell us the story? Yes.
Unknown: Let me share with you why making sure Israel and
Ukraine succeed is vital for America's national security.
President Biden in a rare Oval Office primetime
Adam Curry: address how many times that's a rare, so rare, so
rare, very rare. It's very rare, very rare, very rare,
Unknown: laid out the stakes for Americans and he has some
convincing to do rare steaks. As new CBS polling finds more than
half of Americans disapprove of how the president's handling the
Israel Hamas conflict. And notably, a third of Democrats
disapprove, which creates a challenge as he prepares to ask
to spend billions more to defend Israel.
Adam Curry: That's a third of Democrats there. They're the
mind controls. But that is your 30% of mind control people and
Ukraine.
Unknown: Hamas and Putin represent different threats. But
they share this in common. They both want to completely
annihilate in neighboring democracy.
And well, Russia's invasion of Ukraine stretches into nearly
its 20th month, the President gave some of his most expansive
comments yet justifying continued US support.
If we walk away and let Putin a race for Ukraine's independence,
would be aggressors around the world be emboldened to try the
same
Mr. Biden is set to ask Congress today for roughly $100 billion
in emergency spending over the next year. It includes $60
billion to support Ukraine, around $14 billion for Israel
and a $5 million VIG and the rest would support Indo Pacific
countries including Taiwan against Chinese aggression, plus
billions more US border security and disaster relief
is a smart investment that's going to pay dividends for
American security for generations.
To Smith comes as overall Americans strongly support
sending humanitarian aid to Israelis and Palestinians, and
then using diplomacy to try to end the conflict.
By caution the Government of Israel not to be blinded by
rage.
Adam Curry: The President I love the editing jobs here
Unknown: at Tyrion aid to Israelis and Palestinians and
then using diplomacy to try to end the conflict by COVID
John C Dvorak: Government
Unknown: of Israel not to be blinded by rage.
The President also denounced attacks on innocent Palestinians
abroad and he went home recalling the brutal murder this
week of a six year old Muslim boy from the Chicago there it is
efficiency a Palestinian American was stabbed to death by
his family's landlord and I hate crime attack.
And all you heard it because you're you're hurting. I want
you to know I see you. You belong. And I want to say this
to you. You're all America. He's talking to the base
and he reiterated dual global conflicts are a direct threat,
even worlds away.
American leadership is what holds the world together.
American alliances are what keep us America safe.
Adam Curry: Yeah, real safe.
John C Dvorak: There's no I have I have dead date shoptech Today
Have a 13 second continuous Biden from speech. And I brought
here odd comment. And there's something about the wind when
you piece it together listening to it this way, it's got an odd
moment,
Unknown: I'm going to send to Congress, an urgent budget
request to fund America's national security needs to
support our critical partners, including Israel and Ukraine is
a smart investment that's going to pay dividends for American
security for generations. It's going to
Adam Curry: pay dividends.
John C Dvorak: How's it going to pay dividends?
Adam Curry: Well, it's going to pay dividends perfectly.
Everyone who invest in the Ukraine rebuilding project is
going to have it
John C Dvorak: doesn't mean that we're going to get all that
business.
Adam Curry: What a president lying. No, of course not. But we
know that the consultant said you got to get in now get out on
the ground on the ground floor because the money's coming. The
60 billion, this is what it's for. And there's a 5 billion
vague in there somewhere that I think goes to James Biden, this
is also corrupt. I thought that Israel Hamas was the this was
the big one. This is the big war. This is what we really used
to be afraid of. But no most of the money goes to Ukraine. Don't
I don't get it anymore. Now now, of course, the President's
speech did not did not do the right thing at all. And Bolton
came out. The mustache fart sniffer.
Unknown: The principal threat to peace and security in the Middle
East today and for some years back has been Iran. In the
current circumstance. They're the ones who have armed and
trained and equipped and financed Hamas. They've done the
same with Palestinian Islamic Jihad. They've done the same
with Hezbollah. They've done the same with the Syrian military.
And remember just yesterday, demonstrating again, they've
done it with the Houthi rebels in Yemen. a US destroyer in the
Red Sea destroyed several cruise missiles and I think some drones
heading north in the Red Sea probably toward Israel. So the
hoodies wouldn't have any rocks to rub together. If it weren't
for the equipment. Iran has given them Iran as the central
factor here. and last night the president's address which was
fine as far as it went, did not address that crucial point. How
can you have a strategy if you don't know what the main threat
is? In fact,
I would say bomb bomb bomb again.
Adam Curry: Yes, this is he's talking about the Hootie, Hootie
and the Blowfish. I don't know. It's who fees you mustache jerk.
The
Unknown: real question is do you want to deal with the threat
from Iran? Or do you want to pretend that it doesn't exist?
The administration has gone out of its way right. Pretend that
it doesn't exist, including its chief Iran negotiator, Rob
Malley being having his security clearance suspended in April by
the State Department's Diplomatic Security Bureau that
the chief negotiator under security investigation. It's
just unbelievable.
Somebody's got to drop a new tear. I don't know who it is,
but I don't want to watch
Adam Curry: Yes, this is how we draw Iran into the conflict is
with it's crazy. The hoodies hoodies in the blowfish up
there. They got drones. They got cruise missiles. I mean, there's
got to be Iran right
Unknown: tonight. For the first time the US has taken military
action in this war to defend Israel.
Adam Curry: Yeah,
Unknown: with the hoody see us has Kearney a guided missile
destroyer in the northern Red Sea shooting down three land
attack cruise missiles and several drones. They say were
launched from Yemen, possibly towards Israel by Iran passively
forces
Adam Curry: this is just this is ABC, of course Martha Raddatz.
These people are war mongers. They are paid off and completely
under control by the military industrial complex.
John C Dvorak: They have the idea, by the way, that from
Yemen, where they're having the time of their lives, you know,
fighting against the Saudis. They're going to waste a missile
and shit and send it toward it for some reason what with with
our defenses right there. They're going to send it to her
toward Israel just randomly. It doesn't make any sense.
Unknown: We cannot say for certain what these missiles and
drones were targeting, but they were launched from Yemen heading
north along the Red Sea, potentially towards targets in
Israel.
John C Dvorak: I get potentially we're not sure surely maybe we
can be sure.
Unknown: People believe and it's likely true. The US is
bolstering its firepower in the region, a second carrier strike
group joining us warships already in the Mediterranean and
additional fighter aircraft also being sent all meant as a
deterrent.
We aim to send a strong message intended to deter a wider
conflict to bolster regional stability and of course to make
it clear that we will protect and defend our national security
interests
and tonight real concern for US forces in the region with
attacks against US bases in Iraq and Syria in the past 24 hours.
And another today. One drone shot down. No injuries reported.
Tractor sheltering in place in Iraq died of cardiac arrest.
John C Dvorak: Ah, some guided heart attack. Yeah. Contractor.
Yep. Hey, buddy. If you don't like it in the Middle East get
out do Yeah. Well, I got most of my clips from Al Jazeera because
they seem to be trying to be objective.
Adam Curry: Okay, well, you know what Ron? Ron DeSantis says, I
wouldn't trust anything from Al Jazeera.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, he. I don't know where you can't get
reasonable coverage from anybody but Al Jazeera and I hate to say
that, but let's start with the Gaza convoy, which has been a
fiasco report. From Al Jazeera. This is war Gaza convoy report
Unknown: as more convoy of 20 trucks carrying food and
medicine have entered Gaza through the Rapha crossing from
Egypt and unloading their desperately needed cargo. But
rights groups say the aid won't even make a dent in terms of
relief for the 2.3 million Palestinians. As Harry Fawcett
reports.
They'd been standing ready for days and at last the first
lorries carrying desperately needed supplies or on the move
from Egypt into Gaza, just 20 of them what aid agencies are
calling a drop in the ocean, when a sustained reliable supply
is what causes people require a well I
can not have that amount and we hope this is the beginning and
that's efficient aid will arrive sad and there would be global
pressure to stop the aggression on Gaza,
food, water and medicine. We're all unloaded that new fuel part
of Israeli conditions barring anything it says could aid
Hamas. And the border was closed again immediately. No way out
for those with foreign passports, who had been told to
gather there, among them. The mother in law of Scotland's
First Minister Hamza Yusuf
people of Gaza want to live they can in the know you even believe
there's no air they suffered, watch the children play in the
day and cry in the evening. My heart is broken.
Adam Curry: But at least Algeria is learning how to use that
trauma based entertainment that the meal
John C Dvorak: what is what are these weird people doing in
Gaza? Like that woman that Irish woman who's the mother or
daughter or sister of some Irish you know, diplomat, I guess
we've noticed this and they let you know they let the two
American hostages go you know,
Adam Curry: you know do you have any any clips on that because
that whole thing smells very fishy
John C Dvorak: I only have a couple of congressmen and I have
a I was looking I there was a clip I want to get I don't have
it but there is that thing stinks Yeah Right yeah. And in
fact what that does these clips here this to two more hostages
tale is worth playing because they've decided they're going to
release a couple more and they just really say we don't want
them using this for propaganda and so they so LG zero brings on
a complainer who's a Hamas guy going out? Yeah, these guys.
They won't do anything. We try to help them and we're, you
know, we're getting no, just play this
Unknown: in Gaza and the military wing of Hamas says
Israel has refused to accept its offer to release to more
captives. Ghassan brigades says it wanted to release the
captives on humanitarian grounds and without conditions. The
Israeli Prime Minister's Office has responded saying that they
will not address quote false Hamas propaganda and will
continue to work to bring all captives and those missing back
home. Earlier my colleague Felipe attivo, spoke to Hamas
spokesman coloured Allah Khademi. He says there were no
clear reasons for Israel to reject that proposal,
or they were to captives with the custom brigade and due to
severe humanitarian position. We decided to hand them over to the
families through the brothers in Qatar, and that's what we have
informed them last night
Adam Curry: were these hostages in Qatar.
John C Dvorak: No, I don't think so. They're gonna get into
Qatar. And this whole redist report just emphasizes what's
wrong with the first dose to those first two, that girl and
her mom who were praised as as supporters of BLM and part of
the movement.
Adam Curry: This reads like a UFC script. The whole thing,
doesn't it?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it does. It's really, really lame. And
when you listen to this guy going on,
Adam Curry: I want to roll it back again. I want to hear
exactly what he said. What am I want
John C Dvorak: to mention Even if you're going to religious
release some you don't have to what is this real got to do with
it just let them go
Unknown: and humanitarian position. We decided to hand
them over to the Who
Adam Curry: is this guy who's this guy talking?
John C Dvorak: This is the Hamas spokesperson, okay. This is the
Baghdad,
Adam Curry: backed Baghdad Bob. I forgot about him.
Unknown: And they were two captives with the custom brigade
and due to severe humanitarian position, we decided to hand
them over to their families, through the brothers in Qatar,
and that what we have informed them last night without anything
in return. But unfortunately, the government of Israel, they
refuse to take them. And that is also proof our ideas that this
this occupation, this Israeli government is not serious and is
not ready to stop this blood sitting. Continuous situation.
Did the Israelis tell the catteries we're negotiating
these releases? They tell them why they refuse to take these
two captives.
We didn't receive anything on that. Wait a minute.
Adam Curry: So our best friend in the region refuses to take
hostages who are Americans?
John C Dvorak: No, these are no these weren't Americans are just
a call randos
Adam Curry: Oh, randos. Okay, it's just randos. Well, who
cares about the randos?
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't even believe any of this story.
The whole thing seems fishy. Yeah. And Israel thinks is
bogus. And so they just don't want to deal with it. Why don't
you just give them to the Qatar Qatar ease? I mean, there's
other things you can do with them. But okay, let's play part
two.
Unknown: Okay. You say they were released, you wanted to release
them because of severe humanitarian conditions, what
conditions besides you? Were they injured were they
nothing, there's nothing I can share with friends over here.
More than what has been come with the statements of our VEDA
that those two captives they were in the custody of Alka sand
brigade. And due to their position to the humanitarian
position, we decided to hand them over to refute the lies of
the Israeli governments about our fighters and their high
morals and high values, that they respect the prisoners and
the captives. And they deal them as guests. They will live as our
other people live in in Gaza. But again, I mean, the Israeli
government, they are not serious. Previously, we have
announced that we are having four prisoners before this war.
And the Netanyahu government refused to talk anything about
the swab and they're exchanging the prisoners and today, we are
having hundreds of them still, we are we have offered to hand
over those captives who are in severe humanitarian condition
for a sole reason of humanitarian reasons that we
wanted to return them to their families but the government's
they are not serious on that they want to continue killing
our children. They want to continue bombardment, the houses
the the Safe Families in their homes, and they live bombardment
of mosques, hospitals, churches, and they want to continue all
over like that. And unfortunately, it looks that the
the the American government is supporting their position. And
if I can just interrupt you for a second just to get a bit more
from you on this. You see, Hamas al Qassam brigades were prepared
to release those captors, with severe humanitarian conditions
and pass on brigades have said they want to do this free of
charge with nothing in exchange.
Adam Curry: This is weird. The guy won't explain what the
extreme actions are as a strategist.
John C Dvorak: By the way, this one's kind of like Al Jazeera
during this reporting. They actually have reporters in
Israel all over the place and in Gaza all over the place. And
they're giving us material that's kind of funny. Do they
have this? Do they have
Adam Curry: flak jackets on with media? No.
John C Dvorak: This one says to more second round and he brought
somebody else in to talk more BS. And this is continues this
analysis or non analysis or whatever you want to call it. I
just found it kind of interesting.
Unknown: How is this playing out on the ground with the public in
Israel?
So Emily, this is interesting, because we saw something
relatively new happening. We'll compare it to what's been going
on the past few weeks. Saturday evening, you had a protest
hundreds of people in Tel Aviv good Gathering in front of the
Ministry of Defense, many of them were relatives of those who
are being held captive by Hamas inside of Gaza. And there was a
level of anger being demonstrated to the government
here that we've not yet really seen, up until this point, many
of these relatives essentially saying that the Israeli
government is not doing enough to ensure the release of these
of these captives that they would like to see the government
do more that they would like the government to implement a
ceasefire until the captives are released. And in fact, they were
also calling on the international community to step
in, and help more to ensure that these captives can be freed.
Now, beyond that, we're also hearing more about public what
with the international
Adam Curry: community.
John C Dvorak: They find that peculiar this whole report now
this report, we don't have any of this from Western media with
the protests in Tel Aviv. No, well, then he brings in some
polling that was done in there.
Adam Curry: We finished the clip, I want to hear the rest of
the clip. I'm just I just stop it just like, What's he talking
about? It's
Unknown: our release. And in fact, they were also calling on
the international community to step in, and help more to ensure
that these captives can be freed. Now, beyond that, it
Adam Curry: sounds like a play. This is some kind of, you know,
some play like, hey, you know, look, it's they're trying to do
PR, but they're talking to the wrong
Unknown: media outfits are also hearing more about public
opinion, public opinion, different aspects of the war
right now, in Israel. So we've heard from a polling institute
called, we're polling the war now, Gump. And they released a
survey that found, among other things, first, that around 57%
of Israelis support a plan to exchange families held by Hamas,
with Palestinian children held in Israeli jails survey also
weighed.
Adam Curry: These Israelis have children in jails,
John C Dvorak: at seams, so if you want to stop that clip, and
play this crazy screed of stats that this American Palestinian
woman had on again off of Al Jazeera, and I think, let me see
if I can find that. It's too many clips,
Adam Curry: craziest read of stats, this
John C Dvorak: is great. This woman is being grilled one way
that she's going back and forth with this interview. And she
just goes off on the, on the interviewer on Al Jazeera. And
she has a screen of like, just stat. I
Adam Curry: got it here. I got it here. Okay,
John C Dvorak: play this
Unknown: Israel right now, let's not forget, there are 5500
Palestinians in Israeli jails, with 1300, of whom
administrative detention held without charges without evidence
without trial. Since 1967, Israel has imprisoned over a
million Palestinians. So when we talk about numbers when we want
to talk about civilians being captured when we talk about
civilians being killed, okay, there's over a million
Palestinians who have been in Israeli military prison since
1967. And 80,000, Palestinians killed since 19. Sorry, 67. So,
I mean, yes, we can, we are opposed to civilians being used
in any way and being killed. But let's keep things in perspective
here. And let's look at the larger picture and who is really
putting the people, innocent civilians captive for decades,
including now we're seeing it in Gaza. But they've done this
collective punishment against Palestinian people in the West
Bank and Gaza for decades, including shutting off water and
destroying water lines to Palestinian cities, including
building a apartheid wall, including implementing ways, you
know, cutting off cities from one another, including
imprisoning children in Israeli military prisons, without their
parents or legal representation. So I mean, context is extremely
important. Let's not forget who the king of propaganda is in
this situation.
Okay. We appreciate your passion on these issues. Dana, worry,
Hutchinson, a Palestinian American rights activist, thanks
for your time.
Adam Curry: Thank you. Well, well now.
John C Dvorak: So they had some kid they have kids, I guess. But
what did that mean? 17 year olds, 16 year olds. Five, you're
also could
Adam Curry: have just meant, you know, behind the wall in Gaza,
you can say well, you know, lots of people say
John C Dvorak: like, same same coming over that you want to
finish this. I do want to
Unknown: finish us with Palestinian children held in
Israeli jails survey also found that around 57% of Israelis
support a plan to create humanitarian corridors for
children in Gaza, managed by the UN. And furthermore, it found
that 54% of Israeli say compliance with international
humanitarian law isn't necessary, including precautions
to minimize harm to children when at war with Hamas. Now if I
can just unpack that last D. This is quite remarkable,
because this is saying that there's a majority of Israelis
54% According to this survey, so They're saying that compliance
with international humanitarian law is not necessary, including
when it pertains to minimizing harm to children when it applies
to war with Hamas.
Adam Curry: I did get some feedback from one of our
producers about the term unpack and its origin. And the thinking
is that it comes from Peggy McIntosh, a 1989 essay about
white privilege, titled white privilege unpacking the
invisible knapsack that could be the origin of this
John C Dvorak: funny bit in the back unpack Well, I want to
point out something in that guy's going on and on with his
numbers. He elegir Zero has been doing a pro a bunch of
programming on the bloodthirsty Nate that last little thing he
having just play a little bit of d&d 50 fall I just say what it
is. 54% of Israelis polled don't give a shit about war crimes. So
Adam Curry: what is this polling? It was at a call out?
Did they have people on the internet poll?
John C Dvorak: No, there was some company mentioned that you
mentioned to her
Adam Curry: but I understand there's a company they did go
John C Dvorak: details of polling. People just say
polling, it's sick. They're polling the war. But the thing
is, is that Al Jazeera has been promoting the idea of Israelis
as bloodthirsty demons and I will rise anti semitic and I
have to go into well, it's Al Jazeera. And I have to they did
their special report I don't have any clips from it, but it's
fascinating. They clipped a bunch of the what I would call
Israeli Hicks people living in the you know out in the middle
of nowhere someplace in the hills. You know, it's the same
kind of thing that we do in our meeting where we try to get some
guy talks like this he's got a mission to some front and I'm
sorry I'm talking to foreign correct cat dog. Oh, my dude
mitten. No, no, no,
Adam Curry: no no this this is the guy this is the guy
John C Dvorak: these guys got so they have these fans and the way
they presented it was very good and so far as propaganda is
concerned they they have these literally beautiful Israeli
girls who are Hicks. Oh, loud in the the only good Arabs a dead
Arab I don't care if we shoot every Arab if they come to the
house, and we shoot them it's okay. She goes on and on like
this. Then they bring on another beautiful girl and she's just
bloodthirsty and so so the Algis are is kind of doing this kind
of thing. And I'm watching this going wow, this is really good
stuff. But let's
Adam Curry: kind of Google are you
John C Dvorak: deconstructing your I think it's fascinating.
So here's this two more round second round two
Unknown: and this is really reflective of the mood right now
in Israel because you have so much anger and shock still at
what happened on October 7 When that Hamas attack occurred and
there is so much anger driving all of this you have poll after
poll in Israel in which people are saying predominantly that
they want the Israeli government to go in and destroy Hamas Emily
Adam Curry: you know it's times like this when the media has
just lost lost their their marbles and all they want and
all media around the world they just want blood they want
explosions, they want strife they want disagreement the bank
they want is money in the bank. And I think the curry Devorah
Consulting Group can help people while making bank ourselves by
resurrecting our game show win lose orj everybody has time to
play around win lose. Who's gonna get it this time? Well the
hot Israeli lady kills him Palestinian or the other way
around. Find out tonight. Lose orj
John C Dvorak: just the thought Yeah, the problem with our game
shows all it has is the opening jingle I always
Adam Curry: have a game show.
John C Dvorak: We do have a real
Adam Curry: game show we have a stinger that's all we have. We
don't we don't have a format or a station to broadcast on. But
the idea is meant
John C Dvorak: it is. There was another guy that came out a guy
named Daniel Levy. And I have a clip from him he
Adam Curry: Oh yes. I played this Daniel levy guy he was the
was the former negotiator or Ambassador
John C Dvorak: yeah he's one of those guys is in and around in
and around
Adam Curry: former yes former Israeli You peace negotiator.
That's yeah. And
John C Dvorak: he was on with another one of these interview
shows on AlJazeera called bottom line and he came on and he was
on forever, yak, yak, yak yak in a way. And he did. And he was
saying is this is going to be bad news for this person is bad
news for Netanyahu had bad news for this and bad news for that.
But he came up with a little like, again, I'll use the word
screed about this being bad news for the United States because
Biden is a fuckup. And this whole situation is not good.
Unknown: America looks like an outlier, not like a model to be
emulated. But like a country that is fundamentally getting
his priorities wrong and doesn't care when there is a boomerang
effect across much of the rest of the world. We are seeing an
America that looks like a war mongering nation. And I worry
for that I worry for that reputation.
Adam Curry: What do you mean, we didn't have that reputation
already? Isn't that isn't that our reputation?
John C Dvorak: I thought that was always our reputation. We're
a war mongering nation
Adam Curry: that I mean, that's what most people in the rest of
the world look at us as that's why
John C Dvorak: we got to keep Trump out.
Adam Curry: Because he'll stop all the wars. That's no good.
Speaking of that, we got a note from one of our Jewish
producers. And I say this because I don't want to give her
name way because a little personal note, but you know,
she's had some issues in temple with vaccine stuff back in the
day. And so she's written us quite openly. And this is just a
lighthearted note. She says, I hope you're well want to share a
story that happened this week, when the Israel conflicts began,
I tuned into Ben Shapiro. Of course, that's all the Jews
immediately go to Ben Shapiro, American Jews, because I
understand why I figured he would have boots on the ground
reports. I'm not a regular listener of his anymore, but
this warranted some attention. In the middle of one is one of
his reports, he began talking about President Trump. Now
Shapiro has never been a Trump supporter, but he admits he will
vote for him if he's a nominee in the next election, but he
began to criticize Trump for Trump's alleged castigation of
Netanyahu when the attacks began, Shapiro was furious about
how Trump could use the events to boost his own ego and agenda.
I just listened. I didn't think much of it until I heard John's
deconstruction of Brooks and Dunn. on Episode 1599, Shapiro
had used the exact same decontextualized clip of Trump
that Brooks and K part had used. I was so flabbergasted the next
day on the way to school, I forced my husband and children
to listen to the whole segment. My kids listen, I knew anyway,
but the husband doesn't. At the end of the deconstruction my
husband turned to me and said, I think I'm ready to start
listening to your no agenda, guys. Now. Another marriage save
another man. Yes, yes. Yes. So I didn't
John C Dvorak: know that Shapiro, you said same misguided
clipped, chopped up clip. That's, that's, that's, that's
bad. That's bad. That's really bad. My last allergy zero thing
I want to play is that they were going on and on about, there was
this long, kind of a presentation. And they had this
little bit at the end where, where Biden is out in the lawn
or someplace and somebody says, What are you going to do what's
going on? Bla bla bla bla bla, Biden says, I'm talking to
Israel. Just talk to him. I just talk to Israel. Well, they had
an under boots run boots on the ground guy, it AlJazeera who,
even though didn't call by now, in person on the show, he calls,
he calls by not as a liar for talking to saying he's talking
to Israel, and he's not. And I just thought it was so funny to
listen to this guy go on and on with all his details about how
this is bullshit. And this is Biden called out for BS.
Unknown: Let's go to sushi, hyper tansy, who's in Washington
DC for us, you have quite a brief statement, what should we
make of it?
I think perhaps that he's loved the lesson from Friday night
when he was asked the question as to whether Israel should
pause the any ground invasion in order to allow more captives to
be released? And he said, Yes. And I think it was almost within
the hour that the White House put out an urgent statement
saying, Oh, no, President Biden didn't hear the question. He
just thought the journalist asked whether he hoped that more
hostages should be released. So now this time, at least he
didn't make the same mistake. He simply said he was talking to
Israel. However, we've looked at the full reports and the
readouts from Saturday, and he hasn't talked to the Israelis.
According to those on Saturday. He did talk to the Prime
Minister Netanyahu on Friday where the issue of the captors
was raised no conversations with Israelis, as far as we can tell
yet as far as from any official announcements in the White
House. On Saturday, he did talk to his national security team
about the latest on the Gaza war. Incidentally, we did just
also hear that Tony Blinken, the US Secretary of State, talked to
the Qatari Prime Minister and the foreign military Foreign
Minister thanking them for their mediation efforts with the
release of the to us captives but also discussing further
efforts to secure the release of all the other captives.
Okay, lots of moving parts thanks for bringing us up to
speed she had pretends he in Washington DC so go ahead
John C Dvorak: I just think this is a little bit you know a
little kind of in the weeds a bit but at the same time at
least he called Biden out for his BS or mean he doesn't do
okay whatever you say
Adam Curry: there's gambling going on. Yes. Our media is is
it's compromised. I don't really understand do people white
people even watching this because of the addiction we
talked about the top of the show they just people need outrage
they need they need I need to be triggered I need to you know
actually this was a this was an interesting report. Hate say but
it was MSNBC and they have their own reasons behind it which I
think I can deconstruct it comes into the the loneliness factor
that we were talking about the other day, all of a sudden,
loneliness is on the on the menu, loneliness, loneliness,
what's going on with loneliness. This, this is about well, this
is a doctor and she's got a book we'll just set it will set her
up here MSNBC now for the last two weeks or so painful and
shocking images of war have been hard to avoid images showing
pain, destruction and horror. On television, you can flip the
channel or turn it off altogether. But on this on your
phone, the endless scrolling can really have an impact on your
mind and your psychology. If you are like me, you have felt it.
Let's bring in Dr. Su Verma, she is a board certified
psychiatrist and she's author of fourth of the forthcoming
practical optimism the art science and practice of
exceptional well being. Yeah. So this is for you parents. I know
the parents out there and you know your kids see you your kids
are not stupid, they see you scrolling you give them
scrollers they're probably the kids are probably more
proficient at looking at your browser history than you are.
Dr. Berman. These are dartle times we're wondering what you
think the the biggest impact is of seeing these images over and
over again on all our minds.
Unknown: Yes, so you know, repeated exposure to graphic
stressful violent images can produce anxiety, depression, and
a feeling of helplessness. Not to mention anger, frustration,
and just feeling like we're very conflicted and and passive as a
result. And I feel like when I talk to my patients that
helplessness feels so profound, and for different people,
helplessness can manifest in different ways. Some people may
tend to turn to substances that people are doomed scrolling, so
they continue to look for violent images. Some people turn
to cyber bullying, because they feel so angry, and they need to
lash out on somebody, they don't know where to take it out. So
it's these are very challenging times. Indeed, for a lot of
people, even if we're so far away.
Adam Curry: Yes, I think this is exactly the behavior I see
exhibited on no agenda social, that people just get mad at
anything is I need to get mad. I need to get mad because I'm mad
about something I can't do what is going on or something. I just
feel I feel anxious. I'm mad, I'm mad. I'm mad. How does this
work for children is also just so casual at the moment, I was
speaking earlier with a technology company that tracks
the behavior of young people online and did one they all do
that dude, they were showing me how quickly a child can go from
one innocent YouTube search for something entertaining to maybe
something educational about Israel to something absolutely
unwatchable within a span of a few minutes and then go back to
business. As usual. I'm wondering what do you think the
impact is of this sort of casual exposure, especially on the
developing brain? Oh, it gets very fine citizens, upstanding
members of society.
Unknown: Yeah. So you know, the casual exposure can be
dangerous, because if a young child doesn't have the context
around it, and they, they don't necessarily even have the
language to be able to express what they're going through. And
at the same time, they're watching these images, and
they're thinking that this could be happening to me, like they
don't have the context of okay, this is not exactly in my
neighborhood, but it feels so real. And this sort of 24 hour
24/7 exposure. It's not like we have to go out to get it. It's
coming to us, as you said. And the other thing is like casual
exposure also causes numbness and desensitization. It's a form
of what we call cyber overload or digital overload when the
brain is hit with so much information, even if the
information isn't violent, but just constant news coming to us.
Our brain wants to shut down and it shuts down by saying, You
know what, I don't really care. There's nothing I can do about
it. And that's the last thing that we want. We want to be able
to have some sort of healthy balance between what I say my
patients often say, Do I want to be happy? Or do I want to be
informed? Because it seems like we can't be happy and informed
at the same time, unfortunately.
Adam Curry: I mean, this is obviously taking place on MSNBC
who themselves are huge violators of what you're showing
on television. I mean, it was only a few years ago when Janet
Jackson's nipple was the most shocking thing we saw. And now,
thanks, everybody, thanks for the telegram videos. mean this
it is not good. It is you can
John C Dvorak: sear the why wait a minute, you're the one who
wants to put on television executions.
Adam Curry: Okay, hold on a second, we'll get to my purse.
This is dead. That's a different story. That's a television
format. And we don't even have a jingle for it like when loser
drone. I'm saying that with social media. And it doesn't
matter if it's x or Facebook or Mastodon or telegram. Telegram,
I think is actually the worst. It Real telegram is really,
really, really toxic. And
John C Dvorak: it's not it's not that thank tic TOCs pretty bad
keeping
Adam Curry: telegram is it's all bad. And we're professionals.
We're older. We've grown up with this. We understand why, for
some reason, were able to look at it with some distance. It
doesn't affect me. But I see I see my brothers and sisters have
no agenda nation affected, and they used to not be so affected
by this stuff.
John C Dvorak: And I see your sisters literally.
Adam Curry: My sisters. Yes. Yeah. All right. You got me
confused with Andrew Horowitz. Okay, last quick. I feel like
John C Dvorak: this is the best
Adam Curry: important thing to contrast also between, you know,
happiness and informed when it comes to it really being
important to inform people with the most jarring images, right?
I mean, back when we first saw images of war during Vietnam,
for instance, right, it shaped our perception of that conflict,
it was utterly shocking to see those images. But now, with
social media and with smartphones, it seems like
something has changed. I wonder what you think, you know,
obviously, there's this individual effect. But what is
the sort of social effect you think of becoming desensitized
as it seems we're being
Unknown: lack of empathy is what's happening is that when we
feel so passive, helpless, angry about things that, you know,
whether they're close to home or far from home, we end up
becoming more passive, right. And so sometimes we think that
like putting comments online, while they are very helpful, and
can be educating some people, a lot of the comments,
unfortunately, are negative or angry and hostile and create
more and more divide. So there is a very delicate balance. And
I feel like empathy is so important and being able to talk
to people from very different points of views. I'm seeing so
much clash and divide between within families within friends
circles, and it's very hard time right now to be able to get
yourself informed because you're only hearing things from a
certain perspective.
John C Dvorak: So what you heard there was an anti Trump screed
Of course there is anti empathy is a yes, buzzword codeword for
Adam Curry: Trump. So here's what I'd like to suggest for no
agenda nation, I call for a JCD Monday. Be like, I
Unknown: mean, be like
Adam Curry: JCD, put your phone in a drawer, a drawer, leave it
there and leave it there for all of Monday. And I command
everyone to go to a no agenda meet up. You can talk about
whatever you want. But you need to be in social contact with
real people. I'm saying we need to love each other. If only in
our own community. This I can see we're breaking people are
people. I don't care about anybody else. I don't care about
anyone else's listeners. We have producers and they're breaking.
Be like JCD be like spike be be like my campaign be like John be
like JCD put your phone in the drawer on Monday. And go to a
meet up find a meet up this week or next weekend. It's it's good
for you. So I went to
John C Dvorak: the meetup. Yes. Tell us how was it? It was
great. We had about 35 people the guy who's organized it is
Elizabeth Warren Rohnert Park, and he's a new organizer and he
wants to do these meetups more often he's a nice guy and the
group was great, good looking group. And there was a there was
a Scott Adams look like it was a socialist kid who came up says
hey, I'm a socialist. No way you guys ragging on socialist I
agree with most of what you're saying but yeah, hate
socialists. And what did you submit? I tried to explain but
he didn't listen. And but he donated so that's good, but but
there you go, but this is the point of socialist donation. No,
you got something going Right
Adam Curry: yeah but this is good so I'm glad that he came
good on him yeah I'm cool he's a good guy nice guy because he
felt safe that's why he felt safe in that environment this is
very good.
John C Dvorak: Oh yeah it was the bars nice has been redone
since I was there less than I don't know how long many years
ago it's nice now it's a pretty was everybody's drinking What
are you drinking? Beer? Mostly beer is a beer if it was a beer
Beer Bar Hill. Okay. Is a beer bar. They had a bunch of beer on
tap including really good pills nurse
Unknown: and any hotties Yak? Yeah.
John C Dvorak: So he's a hottie or two or three any spooks?
Maybe, maybe
Adam Curry: you're not it's not a complete meet up until you've
spotted the fella there
John C Dvorak: may be I mean, it's possible that one guy was
because he had everything going on, you know, the kind of
sketchy background they kind of look as possible. That was a
spook.
Adam Curry: Got a breaking news, breaking news, breaking news
from our lawyer who has been following the Missouri versus
Biden trial. Oh, yes. And there is and he's been. I love this
guy. He's a pro bono. Of course, he's a producer. And he's just
sending me updates. He goes through all the documentation,
all the briefs that are being filed. It's reams of paperwork.
He loves doing it. And I want to read his report. Justice Alito
referred the government's motion for a stay to the full court.
Now, just to remind you, this is the state of Missouri suing the
Biden administration. I think it's the Biden ministration, not
just Biden, personally, for threatening social media
companies to take down content, threatening them with Hey, you
know, we got section 230, you're killing people with this video
with you're missing disinformation. And as we've
learned that the courts are even saying this is the most
egregious violation of the First Amendment rights ever in
American history. And the media really doesn't report on it
much, because why would they? They're in Biden's pocket and
they hate social media companies. So Alito has referred
the government's motion to full stay with the full court. This
is not unheard of, but definitely not the norm. To make
things even more unusual. The Supreme Court treated the motion
for stay as a cert petition. This cuts out an entire step
from the Supreme Court review process. So the bottom line,
Supreme Court has accepted the case for review. Remember, now
this went from the from the Missouri court, which I don't
remember but circuit that is it went to the Supreme Court,
instead of kicking it back. Now it goes to the Supreme Court for
review, it will determine whether the district court and
by extension, the Fifth Circuit Daigo got it right. In
condemning the Feds laundering of censorship. The media has no
choice now, but to report on this. Hopefully, you are well
equipped to get a jump on things.
John C Dvorak: Okay, well, we'll see.
Adam Curry: Yes. And he says, And he attached for my reading
pleasure, the supreme court's order, which includes a dissent
from justices Alito, Thomas and Gorsuch, who wanted to deny the
state altogether. It's a very short five pages take a look and
see the point in a nutshell, Alito, Thomas and Gorsuch are
worried what will happen in the next election. And that's really
what this is about, is what can be done from the White House
during the next election. Can they you know, hey, Trump's a
criminal.
John C Dvorak: Take it off, or something like that. Those are
conservative judges.
Adam Curry: I know. But I'm not sure exactly what to
John C Dvorak: I want a clarification on this. Okay.
Adam Curry: Both point of order. Point of order.
John C Dvorak: So I got some China News, China clips kind of
kind of China, kind of China. We haven't talked about much, but I
think we should.
Adam Curry: Yeah, they're not in play right now. But okay. I
mean, we have ramped up dad's
John C Dvorak: time to start to look at it. Okay, good point.
Good point. Let's start with wielding a sword we I got two
series of clips. One is on illegal Bio Lab in California.
Adam Curry: This story has been around you know, but of course,
of course this happened months ago. But now it's it's getting
some attention
John C Dvorak: and the rest of it the guy's disappeared to
Unknown: go and arrest over the illegal Chinese Bio Lab in
California. It contained bacterial viruses such as SARS,
COVID and HIV. Now authorities say they've arrested a man NTDs
David Lam speaks with an epic Times reporter who spent several
weeks uncovering the web of connections tied to the Reedley
California lab.
Steve is first with the epic times. Thank you for joining me
today. What's the significance of this arrest? Do we realize
that the people behind this company they have a very
complicated and complex background and very troubling
background. They have been involved With several companies
in at least 10 countries that we have looked at, and they've all
been in trouble with the law, the mastermind of his operation
is someone by the name of Jesse Zhu. He's the one that controls
all of these companies. So Jesse do this as a 62 year old man
that is a Chinese citizen, and formerly lived in Clovis. So
what are some of the charges that he's facing? He's actually
a Canadian citizen as well. So the charges for what which was
arrested yesterday are manufacturing and distributing
unbranded medical devices that are not registered with the FDA.
And also for making false statements to the FDA, including
his name, he, he, he uses a fake identity, these are just still
charges. If convicted, he could be in jail for x up to eight
years. How did this illegal operation was running for so
long before it came into the public's eye, or the code
enforcement officer? What see what they do is they they move
from city to city, they change company names. And as I realized
yesterday, they even change identity names of the people. So
universal Meditec, which was the main company that was involved
with the Bio Lab, has been going through Fresno, Tulare, Reedley
back to Fresno back to Tulare, back to really
Adam Curry: now is, is my understanding that the illegal
medical devices were in fact tests like COVID tests.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they never mentioned this specific share,
they just kept going on. What I thought was interesting about
this is the description of the guy changing names and
locations. About 10 years ago, we had a Chinese producer, maybe
12 years ago, we had a Chinese producer who had corresponded
with quite a bit and he told me that this is the way you do
business in China, if you're, if you're a criminal. And these
criminal groups get together and they create companies that did,
these are the guys who produce aircraft parts
Adam Curry: funny, this is how the Biden's operate to.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this is very funny. You produce aircraft
part your illegal aircraft parts with phony certificates, and you
do business as long as you can. And as soon as they they get
wind of what you're up to you close shop, move, change your
name moved to a different city and start doing the same thing.
And you do this over and over and over again, you could do it
free. According to him. This guy says you could do this forever.
In China as long as he because it's just it's just the way it
is as long as it goes on here now
Adam Curry: Oh, no doubt what we have no moral authority over any
other country
John C Dvorak: versus the purchase, carry character.
Unknown: All of these people controlling these companies are
also very closely related to companies in China that are
related also to this Jesse do person. But all of this was not
regulated was not approved by the FDA. Going back to the
background of the Canadian companies. Jesse Zhu and his
companies have been sued by by the Canadian entities. They've
been sued several times up to $330 million dollars for damages
done to those companies. Now he didn't pay a penny of that he
found ways around it and legal loopholes, Steve Espers with the
epic times. Thank you so much for joining me. Thank you for
having me. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Which brings us to the second series of clips,
which is this is not reported in this country. As far as I can
tell. I don't know anything about this. I heard it on the
New Tang Dynasty. This is the graphite story you know about
the graphite story.
Adam Curry: This is not graphene, but graphite.
Graphite. Graphite is graphite.
John C Dvorak: Graphite is a is a form of carbon one of the many
forms of carbon diamonds one of them okay, and it's used a lot
in it turns out who new battery in the same in the semiconductor
business and in batteries in particular.
Adam Curry: Okay, no wonder it's a China story.
Unknown: China is planning to restrict exports of a crucial
mineral used to make Evie batteries. officials announced
today that permits will be required for certain graphite
products. He spoke to entity business host Don MA for more.
Don Ma, thank you so much for joining us.
Yeah, thanks for having me today.
Before we get to the China part, give us a little bit of the
background here.
Sure. First of all, China is the world's top producer of
graphite. And according to the US Geological Survey, China
accounts for two thirds of the growth global supply. China also
refines more than 90% of the world's graphite into material
used virtually in all Evie batteries. So you know China is
an important player here in this front. And the reason why
graphite is important as because graphite is the largest Evie
battery component by weight, and almost double the amount of
lithium in an Eevee battery. But besides EVs graphite is also
commonly used in the semiconductor aerospace,
chemical and steel industries. And top buyers of graphite are
Japan, the US and a couple of other countries. What doesn't
Adam Curry: China have that we need?
John C Dvorak: Get it? How does China out has outmaneuvered us?
In everything we're just sit around flat footed are scions of
industry who make 2030 $40 million a year as CEOs don't do
crap about it because they're incompetent. And here we go
again. And this is all because we cut because Biden cut the
supply of AI chips, mostly from Nvidia to China. So now now you
got you got to you get these chips. Is that going to be good
for us? So you can't have the chips. And so China just says
okay, you can't have the graphite as part two.
Unknown: And now why is China limiting exports of this crucial
mineral.
So according to the official statement, as for national
security reasons, China's commerce ministry said the move
was to ensure stability of the global supply chain and
industrial chain, and to better safeguard national security and
interests. It added that it was not targeting any specific
country. But that's the official reason. But some analysts are
questioning whether you know, this is a tit for tat measure
against the US, because Washington on Tuesdays said it
plans to halt shipments of more advanced artificial intelligence
chips to China. And three days later, here we are at Beijing
officials announcing these graphite curves. So the timing
may be curious to some of the Dutch
Adam Curry: press was just reading yesterday, they're
complaining about how ASML who do the lithography for chips,
they the Dutch government now has no say over what goes to
China. It's all Washington. Yeah, they've completely
capitulated. And they didn't. So that's all part of this tit for
tat was. So what does this mean? Ultimately, no one gets chips
and you keep your laptop.
John C Dvorak: I mean, it's gonna, likely the machines are
built to last. I think there's a last. I think there's a third
clip here, there is
Unknown: an on that last part, what will be the impact of these
curves,
right. So under these new restrictions, which will take
effect in December, China is going to require exporters to
apply for permits to ship certain types of graphite. And
the curves are actually similar to those placed on chip making
metals gallium and germanium from a few months ago. And from
what we've seen with that, those restrictions, they have
effectively choked off exports of those metals and pushed up
prices outside of the country. So that's a reference. But what
analysts are also saying is that the impact could be that the
average price of graphite will continue to rise in the future.
But this control is not a complete ban, and there has been
no significant impact on any industry during the previous
temporary controls. And this also raises the question,
though, of how dependent on China does the US want to be in
the context of the electrification of vehicles and
potentially highlights the need for the West to perhaps have
independent supply chains and self sufficiency in both raw
materials and downstream components?
Adam Curry: Forget the chips for a minute the jobs forget the
jobs won't this time it this should tank the already stupid
Evie market can we just already Can we just say that this is
dumb that this was a bad idea and everybody who bought into
the electric vehicle is going to get screwed? Your battery's a
third the cost of the vehicle. No one wants to buy your car
secondhand. You might as well lease it so you're leasing the
battery? I mean, isn't this all just a dumb idea what won't we
just go back to explosive engines combustion engines
John C Dvorak: Well I hope so but you know they've they've
promoted this very well and you get a superstar promoters like
Elon Musk doesn't help things doesn't help. You know what
should be I mean,
Adam Curry: I know I see. Like I see nothing but EVs on the lots
everywhere. Hundreds of EVs unsold that people don't want
them anymore.
John C Dvorak: Well, actually, even in China. There's these
photos that these people have taken with drones have these
huge piles of unsold EVs that are backing up now from these
Evie companies, because China's making
Adam Curry: two or three and these boundaries, they keep
exploding everywhere. It's annoying. You can't
John C Dvorak: put them in your garage. You to blow up the
garage and warehouse, you're going to charge you got to put a
wire out to the car out and sitting in the driveway. Does
that make sense? When kids would come by you know, and you know,
throw it in a bucket or something. I mean, you just
didn't know when to do we haven't seen the vandalism yet.
Adam Curry: Before we take a break a follow up on a clip that
we played in March from two of my favorite radio guys. weenie
in the bud from Russia. I forget their actual vo Vanya, those
guys. Oh, Vaughn and Alexis Vaughn Lexus in the morning. And
they hoax Fifi Lagarde, the director of the Euro European
Central Bank into admitting that a digital Euro a central bank
digital currency was on the way a reminder. Well, I have a
question about it, and they pretended to be Zelinsky. And
she was all like Linsky and she was primping her hair before the
call. Like who I came, I'm gonna be talking to Lindsay, this is
when he was still hot news.
Unknown: I'm also a good user of electronic money. So my
question, you're introducing the electronic era as I know, so,
how can I be up? How can switching to an electronic
currency help?
But two things Number one, it will be decided in October. So
we are preparing the ground, we want to be ready. We want to be
trained, but it will not be decided until October 23. The
reason I'm personally convinced that we have to move ahead is a
situation like the one we are in now. We are dependent on a
supply of gas by a very unfriendly country. I don't want
Europe to be dependent on an unfriendly country's currency,
for instance, I don't know, you know, the Chinese currency, the
Russian currency, the whatever, or dependent on a friendly
currency but which is activated by a private corporate entity,
like, you know, Facebook or like Google or anybody like
Adam Curry: I'm user of Bitcoin to Okay. Okay. Then he goes in
all that. So she said, October 23, we're laying the groundwork
and then she went into such so like, oh, you know, it'll be
like, there'll be limited people can you know, if we won't track
you unless you spend over 300 euros, then them all sudden the
the machines wake up and will track you and don't worry, you
won't sell your information. What I like about Fifi is she
doesn't mess around. They made the decision five days early on
October 18. The digital
Unknown: euro is on the move. Yesterday, the Governing Council
of the ECB approved the opening of the preparation phase, it
will be a journey, and we will walk the journey together with
the legislator. All European institutions will be involved to
make sure that Europe is equipped with the currency of
the future. Cash is here to stay. You will have all options,
cash, and digital cash digital cash. So what does it mean for
you? For consumers? It will be free and easy to use everywhere
in the euro area. All of that, of course is subject to the
legislative process. Cash or digital. The choice will be
euros. You Euro your choice. Yeah,
Adam Curry: your Euro your choice. Yeah, but we want to
make sure you choose the digital option and we are already going
out and doing some weak ass advertising.
Unknown: Imagine a digital single payment solution that can
be used for any kind of payment throughout the euro area. Guess
what? It could become a reality. The digital Euro. Easy, safe,
fast, reliable digital money from the European Central Bank
at your fingertips whenever you need it. How would it work?
You've gone for a meal with a friend and you want to split the
bill. Simple. Open the digital Euro wallet on your smartphone.
Check your balance. Enter the amount of pay your friend
confirm your transfer. Your friend will receive the money
instantly free of charge. It doesn't matter which country
you're in or who your payments provider is payments are still
made instantly even offline. It's also easy to use the
digital Euro at your favorite local shops. Gotta unlock your
device, place it on the terminal authenticate, make the payments
online or offline. If you want, you can also use a physical
card. What about e commerce? The digital euro is also available
when you're buying something online via digital or physical,
the euro will always be a euro and have the same value
irrespective of format. Let's embrace the digital era. Digital
Euro.
Adam Curry: That's right. And every digital Euro comes with a
digital ID.
John C Dvorak: Let me get this straight here. So I'm at a
restaurant. Now in the olden days, I want to split the bill
with somebody we throw our cards down both of us. Yeah. And the
restaurant takes care of it. Give us a couple separate bills.
Simple ups, it couldn't be easier.
Adam Curry: That's not true. You always made me pay with a
company card.
John C Dvorak: Generally speaking,
Adam Curry: he won't admit it. You're always made me pay.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, cuz you had the you had the MVNO company
card. Yeah, that was dynamite. luceplan What's the point we're
going to bvo times good times, those days are over. So but the
point is you normally go out with somebody wants to throw the
cards down, it's all day. Now. Instead, I gotta give a phone on
me. I gotta open the phone. I got to scroll through my apps
and get this app up, and I gotta find it. And then I gotta log
in. And then I gotta click on something. I gotta find the
other guy's name. And I gotta send him some money. And then he
pays the bill. This is like ridiculously complicated
compared to throwing the card down and letting the restaurant
take care of the the complexity
Adam Curry: this will never work because you left your phone in
the drawer. And that's how you get out of paying the bill it's
a bonus for
John C Dvorak: you duel for me yeah nuts arguing about that
part but of course this heart that we're not gonna work well I
Adam Curry: liked it David promote anything it'll do
offline. How does that work? How does it do offline payments with
does it connect to the internet later? I mean, I'd have to
obviously that seems kind of odd.
John C Dvorak: No, the whole thing it has to have a it has to
have some thing in the car. It has to be a chip card chip smart
card that has information in the chip that kind of alludes to the
fact that you have a bunch of money in your account.
Adam Curry: Well the two things to look out for are one the
digital ID that will come with this that's just a given and to
the possibility to European Central Bank's into is a bank
digital money from the central bank is classified as a cbdc and
they will be able to inflate or deflate the money supply at will
take it take your money away. Yeah, they could cut you off.
It's a beautiful thing. Yay Europe you're good to go. You're
it's your Euro your choice. And with that, I'd like to thank you
very much for your currency in the morning to you the man who
put the C and B like JC D please talk to my friend on the other
on the one on the Mr. John
John C Dvorak: C Bucha graph in here so as to what David's
nights out there
Adam Curry: in the morning to the control room. Hello.
We got 2077 on the troll counts 20770. I'm noting these and
we're 223 into it.
John C Dvorak: Yes, hello.
Adam Curry: Everything with us just low.
John C Dvorak: Less low is very low. Average on Sundays 24.
Adam Curry: Low t we got low T low trolls low T. But anyway, we
love our trolls. Because they're here. This is the only place
where it's healthy for you to binge. And to get all your
triggering immediately. Just do it. Do it. Do it only for three
hours, twice a week. That's what we recommend and just stay off
of everything else. Put your phone in the drawer be like JCD
you can join the trolls at the troll room troll room.io or use
a modern podcast app. You'll want one eventually. You can you
can trust me on that. Do you know that John Stewart got
cancelled by Apple? His podcast?
John C Dvorak: He quit. Okay,
Adam Curry: there were creative differences over China and ai
John C Dvorak: do we talked about this in the last show?
Adam Curry: No. No, we didn't talk about maybe maybe you
talked about it on DHL unplugged. I haven't heard DHL
blog this week.
John C Dvorak: Anyway, you gotta cancel these out. Yeah, get
Adam Curry: them on podcast that podcast apps.com pod verse now
does Android Auto and I think they're going to do Car Play or
something like that. So these things are getting pretty good.
Getting pretty modern doing things. Well. I
John C Dvorak: did. came up with dinner that's what it was
because another Gao quit this guy he did. The team left is a
new startup that's that's headed creatively by John Lasseter out
of Disney he was the guy was who was cancelled from Disney for
being too much of a hugger in Calif in Southern California. Oh
my god. Oh no, he's hugging these women constantly go and he
did a start up but this guy's Apple hired him on and they they
all walked off in a huff and went to Netflix for more money.
No to Apples can't keep it together. They're gonna eat at
the by Disney. I mean they their creativity.
Adam Curry: Can they even make a joke? Can I even make chips
without the graphite?
John C Dvorak: So they're not making the chips or designing
the chips. Oh, okay. So to the foundries to get the graphite. I
think
Adam Curry: Apple's heyday may be over. What do you think?
John C Dvorak: Well, the thing is a couple of things. Since
we're talking about it, one JC has the latest version three
that about the newest of the new folding Samsung phones. The
phone? Yeah, it's a killer.
Adam Curry: What is the benefit of a folding phone?
John C Dvorak: Oh, it's just a vis smaller when you fold it up,
it hangs up on your folded down you get to slam it down. It's
works like a champ. It's got a terrific screen. It's a it's
just a marvelous product. I would say that the second day
when it's taken share away from Apple. The second thing is the
Huawei phone in China is killing apple. Hmm. They're getting beat
up badly on their phone and then they're not in fact, we talked
about this at the dinner table when we talked about Jon
Stewart, which was why didn't apple and if Steve Jobs was
running the place still that folding phone that Samsung has
would have been an Apple phone.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I liked the
John C Dvorak: idea of having got a touchscreen laptop for
God's sake. I liked
Adam Curry: the idea of rage quitting your phone like the old
flip phone days like scroll. Yeah, like slap it closed. I
kind of like that.
John C Dvorak: That's you can do that with his phone.
Adam Curry: I stopped still using my light phone mainly.
Yeah, that's
John C Dvorak: fine. I'm trying to get any phone so I'm just
telling you what I'm observing from other you know what's going
on. I like the Samsung folding phone I don't have one. I don't
intend to get one I'm probably too expensive and
Adam Curry: twit is really missing out on you they need you
these are time because they're going to be all googoo gaga over
that thing. And they need us they need you to go I don't want
that phone and to change the language to Korean Russians even
better i favorite trick my favorite Jhansi divorce a great
John C Dvorak: trick for people that don't know that trick I'll
tell you because anyone can do this to anybody asked to borrow
someone's phone quickly go to the settings go to the languages
and turn the language to Chinese and then give them to us from
back and back to the homescreen and back to the home screen and
then you're good to go
Adam Curry: and then your friends for life you did that to
me once and I was I was a bit disturbed by it I don't remember
what phone that was but I remember you doing this and I
was like
John C Dvorak: yeah, that's a good guy. It's funny. Yeah it
made you very popular with the kids it makes you know it unless
you know how to get back to the settings and sometimes they have
the icons will help you and it but if but with some phones
especially earlier like 10 years ago these phones were such that
you didn't have you couldn't figure out how to get the
language back and you had to go basically to your computer go
online and you know look it up and it was very annoying I was
surprised I didn't get punched
Adam Curry: Have you never been punched for just being you know
amazing amazing.
John C Dvorak: I haven't I have a it's my attitude
Adam Curry: has no one I've just come a sucker punch you just for
being you know,
John C Dvorak: you'd think yeah, I don't want to put it in
anyone's mind. I'm on my guard for sucker punches
Adam Curry: we so tomorrow you can you can follow us but there
will be nothing happening. Um no agenda social because everyone
will be doing it taking a JCD be like JCD day. Put your phone in
the drawer tomorrow but on Tuesday you can follow John C
Dvorak at no agenda social.com Adam at no agenda social.com And
yes then not interact with us um um, I'm going to try and I
interact
John C Dvorak: you with two people I blocked both of you I
saw
Adam Curry: John's like I'm always on no agenda social. I
see your no agenda social. What are you talking about black. I
know what you were mad.
John C Dvorak: They were going after you and the show the
studio From people, and they're gonna lie down and one of them
who's I thought was a friend of the show and some female and she
said, I can't remember who she is.
Adam Curry: This is the one who said, but I just stopped
donating. That's my face
John C Dvorak: that Yes, that one. She says, Well, I still
listen to the show. But I stopped donating because she was
very arrogant about it, because this other guy was going on this
show stinks. And I said, What are you even on no agenda social
for to tell us at the show sting? I think I blocked that
guy. And I blocked her,
Adam Curry: I think is that she said, I just get back at him by
by not donating to the show. And I said, I used the Jhansi
Dvorak, I said, noted. And I thought that would be the end of
it. And then she got really mad. I'm like, I gave all my money to
you. I know rather what
John C Dvorak: she'd already said she stopped doing that,
too. She's that she's overboard. For all practical purposes, you
should have blocked her
Adam Curry: block. I only blocked that one guy because he
just filled up my timeline just annoying. Yeah, it doesn't
matter. I'm just lurking now
John C Dvorak: rubbed me the wrong way you get blocked.
Adam Curry: Value for value is the proposition. If you find no
value, then don't support the show. If you do find value, then
support the show.
John C Dvorak: You don't quit grousing, if you don't support
you know, just don't support the show. Yeah. Is that setting
grousing and trying to get other people not to support to show
that's what I don't like that's what I blocked her for. She was
going on. She was firstly trying to keep donations away from the
show.
Adam Curry: And that stopped her you think about you blocking her
know
John C Dvorak: that they have to listen to okay.
Adam Curry: Just even tomorrow don't even Oh, she
John C Dvorak: wrote get to see any of the fabulous memes that I
post.
Adam Curry: Oh, god, you're you have not posted any memes. I
haven't seen any memes from you. Yeah, I posted it because oh,
there's only one guy I like who posted it? And it's weird. But I
like the guy. No. Baray I think it is p post classic muscle cars
like that. I like those. That's
John C Dvorak: like Food Wars memes. He does a lot of them. He
gets newsletter material from him. Well, good
Adam Curry: for you. Yeah. So throughout the years, people
have supported the show in many ways, time and talent is a big
one. You can organize a meetup. And then you really I mean,
you're doing it for no agenda, nation no matter what. But when
you organize a meetup, you're doing it for your brothers and
sisters. So you really need to if you can organize a meetup,
that's a great way to help. There's so many different ways
you can help getting other people to listen. But not
helping is telling people not to donate. And that's not time.
That's not a help helpful value for value. No, it's negative.
It's negative value is envy, envy for V. Now artwork we love
because it first of all, it's an act of love, because artists are
putting their their creativity out there, ready to be
criticized, which is our way of loving you back. It is true,
because you normally do stuff on spec, you don't hear anything
from anybody. They just ignore you don't even get a phone call
back. And when we'd love to having a new piece of art for
every single episode is great. It gets people's attention. It
looks good when you post it, it looks great in the podcast apps.
And we do have, you know, rules and stuff that we need to adhere
to like, Yes, I go to read it and we'd like stuff that pops
but that we break those from time to time. And of course,
whenever there's a special episode like the last one,
episode 1600 That's when you can be pretty sure that we're going
to go for something that boasts about the fact that it's 1600
episodes and Sir Suge, aka faux Diddley, he did that and then
some and brought us the Infinity artwork of 16 years. 1600
episodes. You liked it right off the bat, you went straight for
it and said, I like this one.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I like it because I liked the use of
infinite perspective. And vanishing point. I'm sorry.
Here's what I meant. Vanishing Point. I think he used it well,
and we were talking about you know, the vanishing point has
something to do with some of the issues in the show is great.
Great.
Adam Curry: We looked at a couple other pieces. I did keep
coming back to Parker Polly's tramp stamp, but I don't know
why. I thought it was well executed. The sweet 16 And what
else by the way, you can follow this and no agenda art
generator.com You can also upload anyone can participate in
this. You're more than welcome. Also, a lot of these show up in
our chapters and those modern podcast apps. I liked to have
something that I liked. I can't remember what it was.
John C Dvorak: He really liked much.
Adam Curry: No, I did. Did. I can't remember. I don't know um,
look.
John C Dvorak: It was a lot of art but it was was to do a
complaining about certain. I don't remember who Oh, he first
of all decided we're going to use 16.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I know what it was it was capitalist agenda,
whose art was really if you blow it up the 60s down at the bottom
of the page. The 1600 is kind of peeling off this cube. It's
flowing over. I really liked that piece. Yeah, that's a piece
I'd like to have on my wall. I mean, I
John C Dvorak: I'd frame that that was the light to
dimensionality. Yeah,
Adam Curry: thank you. But it's somehow it doesn't work. I'm not
sure why it is something just doesn't work in a small format.
I guess. They had to he did two of them. You know, something,
John C Dvorak: it has his moment and
Adam Curry: has had his moment. However, we do want to thank Bo
Diddley for bringing us the artwork for episode number 1600.
And the title of that one was unpackage. We just heard one
theory where that came from. We appreciate that very much. And
thank you to all the artists for what you do. It is highly
appreciated. Now there's Phoebe, ABC something or somebody. Tina
is still out. She's still in Utah. That's
John C Dvorak: where you go to overloaded the show with Eclipse
today,
Adam Curry: but you're the one with the Eclipse.
John C Dvorak: No, I know. But I'm saying you had a
presentation. You had deep dives. You had a follow up you
had you looked into this group of screwballs. And you had the
information even this is what happens. Are you complaining?
No, I was fine. I was just relaxing. But it was very
entertaining. It was educational. It's educational.
Have
Adam Curry: a new schedule. I got up early this morning. I'm
getting up early again. Oh, good for you. Yeah. So I had had more
work and I did some You're right. I did do some of the work
yesterday, right? Yeah.
John C Dvorak: The show gets better. We're sitting there
bored. I guess so.
Adam Curry: Let's Yeah, let's thank the treasurer. We have a
lot of PhDs in coming today which is good to see we kick it
off with Brandon Jansen. Just as US does not have a state in his
so I don't know where he's from.
John C Dvorak: But he Jaden D I don't know
Adam Curry: where he has a note.
John C Dvorak: Came into it though check and he came with a
check for some amount and then $4 into dollar bills. We have a
$2 bill thing going on with the show. And one of our one of our
executives or one of our producers dropped off $222.22
And all the dollars were introduced 110 $2 bills. Pow
Adam Curry: well this is a 1601 incident eight for his
conspiracy therapist sir Parson of Florence sent us a card happy
anniversary card no agenda show was true. The best podcast in
universe sincerely Future. Future knights from Captain
Planet. This is hard to read. You have the note there in front
of you. Handwritten notes I do have the note if you read the
card, but then the note is because he has Oh sir conspiracy
therapists or Parson Florence
John C Dvorak: Yes. I knew this note was trouble when it came
in. Jay couldn't read it. But it's in longhand and it is not
unreadable by probably let me try to read it. I'd like to 1000
at this instant night my spiritual therapists or Parson
of Florence whoever serves probably have night already. The
remainder going towards my future and knighting to be
determined tried listening to no agenda after Adams first Rogan
Rogan donation appearance. However, it was not ready for to
I was not ready to absorb the information and analysis.
Adam Curry: Yes, you have to be ready for this. Yes, true.
John C Dvorak: I agree. Fast forward to the beginning of 2023
after six shots No, I didn't say that. I was I was feeling lost
with my previous worldview. Having been shattered after all
the relentless psyops beating me down you both still sounded
crazy, but but only because I I was in fact I was the crazy one
Oh, ah he gave KK he woke up. I went back to twitch January
2022, and proceeded to listen to all the years episodes. In
addition to brought me up to date with the current episodes.
This helped me snap out of it basically Holy crap. These guys
are on to skip the scams. He says to himself, and he went on
and on he goes on I don't want to read the whole thing.
Ignorance is bliss, but luckily I've come to be I've come to
realize that it is better to know With the truth, tend to be
comforted with lies. The first step is admittedly that I've
been duped. I've been duped which is not easy but but
improving while this note will not be complete without a shout
out to my beautiful and endlessly patient wife, my life
would only would truly be meaningless without her. And our
boys thanks for the 21 years babe an important part of the
note you are the light of my life My reason is all scrambled
here at the bottom. My reason for living? Sincerely a faithful
and future night Godspeed to all.
Unknown: That's beautiful man and he wants some karmic jangles
some good karma here. You've got karma. Oh, wait.
Adam Curry: He also needs jobs karma and baby making karma?
Well, we'll throw in a goat to make that jobs,
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs. That's Volker jobs.
Adam Curry: Karma All right, then we have Keith Gibson with
1000 I don't have a note from Keith Do you have a no try?
John C Dvorak: I want to say that Keith is actually sir Kay
good this spring sir keg of the spring. Okay, he I could not
find he's written before. So he does I got his name. So he
hasn't said anything and for this so we'll give him a double
up.
Adam Curry: Yep, double up, Carmen is you go sir. Okay,
you've
Unknown: got
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Thanks for the bi weekly dose of deconstruction and sanity in a
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John C Dvorak: and so my first I should say before I do that, my
first batch of Thai pepper and I get some Thai pepper some some
Hmong at the farmers market who make some of the hottest type
peppers. In fact, the last batch, they said Be very careful
with because they're actually ghost peppers. No, no, because
because the mom had planted some nearby ghost peppers. And they
interbred with the pollination. So they're extremely they're
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now so the first batch of Thai pepper I made, which I still
have from like, 15 years ago, I put like 10 of these Hot Thai
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Adam Curry: All right. All right. So you live
John C Dvorak: Derek J Vickery is up. Dear Linda Lou packin for
high also $1,000. So he'll be a triple threat with the PhD,
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received my PhD in media deconstruction with a minor in
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these skills? Congrats John and Adam and the NA producers for
1600 episodes and 16 years. Thank you.
Adam Curry: Oh, how incredibly nice. Thank you. Derek Boggs
1000 Gentlemen, thank you for your courage. I donated 1564 and
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John C Dvorak: Brandon Jorgensen another $1,000 winner. First
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Unknown: Oh thank you. Very nice.
Adam Curry: Arne Lauren not I heard I heard Arne Lauren not
what he heard he heard sounds weird.
John C Dvorak: Do we had a kid in school is named a her in a
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And it was Linda but as Linda Yes, I think it is Linda. The
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happiness. Congrats on 16 years of media deconstruction all the
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Unknown: You've got
Adam Curry: Armand switcheroo is in is in. It's in.
John C Dvorak: Andrew a Katolik is 33333 self proclaimed longest
time d bag. So I don't know if you DEGUS he doesn't want to D
douching.
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, so yes or no?
John C Dvorak: I would say no. Because he wants to be a self
proclaimed longtime douchebag.
Adam Curry: Okay. No, it is then. That's it. That's his
whole note.
John C Dvorak: As far as I know, yeah.
Adam Curry: Wait, didn't he didn't Okay? Unless you can find
Well, I don't know. I don't have anything. Russell Davidson 333
dot 23 Fort Collins, Colorado. I haven't donated in a few years
since I gave up sending checks after a second check was
apparently lost in transit to Elsa Rito. I don't like giving
PayPal any money but I know Zell doesn't work from my bank to
yours. And I also haven't made the effort to set up a pop money
account yet either. Given my lapse and donations, please do.
You've been D deuced. Give me a yet karma for an upcoming elk
hunt. Thank you for your courage. Russell Davidson. Yeah,
karma for you.
Unknown: You've got Harma
John C Dvorak: bouquet. This is the other new. Okay, we're at
Zach Williams. Can you find this note?
Adam Curry: Well, isn't that on the notes that we got here?
John C Dvorak: I have it. Yes.
Adam Curry: I believe I have it here. Hold on a second. Yes,
Zach Williams, John. John, but I'll read it 333 We hope you
enjoy this gift with family and friends. You have been
encouraging part of my Thursdays and Sundays my kids shout John
Cena of divorce Chuck, every time they hear your voice,
whether whether you're whether or not you've given another Hey
kids, a kids. Whether you know listening, whether you know it
or not, you're making an impact on generations. Very sincerely,
thank you for your courage blessing from Zach Williams.
From the little truth company little truth.org and find in
close you'll find first edition number 30 of production to
hardcovers two coloring books. Wow.
John C Dvorak: Okay, yeah, little truth.org Go check it
out.
Adam Curry: And he says it says if you go to little truth.org
discount code IETF 10 For no agenda nation 10% Guess discount
on my first children's book The Great Unknown. There you go. And
he wants we're all going to die. And a little girl yay. Second,
where's my where's the little I put the little girl in the in
the closet.
Unknown: You might not
John C Dvorak: to go. Okay, and that was was that that's
Adam Curry: Yeah, exactly. But for Chris it's a switcheroo.
John C Dvorak: Okay, so we have Ba Cerise Meister and Sluss
altos another attendee at the meetup I'm in need of a severe D
douching.
Unknown: D deuced. Severe to
John C Dvorak: me with 300 300 Hey John, what would happen if I
give carnivorous plants some ammonium nitrate? I don't know.
I don't know about it. They probably won't like it. Nothing
guy was yet to feed it with a spoon. That's the problem. I
want to give a shout out to my favorite podcast app RSS radio
by durata software not part of the podcasting 2.0 Echo system
but hoping it will be. It was one of the first apps to offer
silence, skip and provide an equalizer was really cool as you
can group your podcast into different categories that you
create. That sounds familiar. And if you like the episodes
artwork, the app shows you the URL of the image for
downloading. The app can also display chapters and live stream
if you have a link. I got my PMP certification so I'm going to
get a job as calm I need one. Thanks sincerely, sir rich
Meister. Yeah.
Adam Curry: And as the developer to check out podcast and 2.0
functionality,
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. That's burger jobs.
Adam Curry: Francisco Ramos is in Temecula, Temecula, Temecula,
Temecula, Temecula, California 23456. Love that number. Good
morning, John Adam. I've been listening to the podcast since
Adams appearance on Joe Rogan back in September 2020 Rogan
donation I was tired of being a douche. And I it happens and
decided to contribute some of my treasure to the best podcast in
universe thank you both for all you do. Please give me an
American made de Deus none of that China made junk. De deuced
and I would also like China is a foe. Oh, okay, a another you
might die. How often does that happen? Another you might die
and a noodle gunging Go? Well, we got all of that for you.
Respectfully, Francisco Ramos from Temecula, California, my
name is as HoH you might die and the jingle in the face with my
noodle gun you
John C Dvorak: get to my pasta Glock locked and loaded. Now I
have certain black ammo in Crockett California 23456. And
there's no note from him and I can find it. So this gives him a
double up karma
Unknown: you've got
John C Dvorak: I want to get this next one. This is Mr.
Montague who is at the meetup. And he's the one who dropped off
$111 bills. $2 Bill nice. I like it. I like a diamond to pen a
table of dimes and two pennies. And it's a row of ducks. He
wants health karma for his mom's broken leg. But I should mention
he's also the guy. As far as I know, who did a whole slew of no
agenda stickers, which we gave out to everybody that we could
and they are dynamite. They're mostly little covers that are
about one inch by one Angelo's show album art and some other
stuff. And they're just really it is nice. They're not it was a
nice gesture.
Adam Curry: Alright sir Montauk. Thanks for going to the meetup.
We appreciate you.
Unknown: You've got karma.
Adam Curry: Sir Don Francis Chandler, Arizona 222 dot 16. In
the morning Adam and John this donation is in honor of my
smokin hot wife Dame Stephanie and the Explorer chicks gang
currently wreaking havoc across the state of Utah.
John C Dvorak: It may be a fellow traveler. Yes.
Adam Curry: Dude, you miss the special meetup. It may be added
to the bail Fund started by Sir Mike in the last episode at your
discretion. I too must admit to feeling somewhat jail Adam,
congratulations on 1600 Plus shows and 16 years from Sir Don
Francis Thank you very much sir Don. I feel like you my brother
now we are brothers brothers in this mess.
John C Dvorak: Kiwi Rick in ball and Western Australia. And he is
this has to be bumped up because it's actually amounts to $345.67
what we do in Australian dollars even though it's $208.82 was
wrong with Australia a lot. Congratulations on your
anniversary from Perth. Isn't Perth. Please de douche me.
Unknown: You've been de deuced
John C Dvorak: got me to the birthday list. I'm 48 on October
22. You might want to check because this is a lot of stuff
for Jada doing she may miss this one. The donation also brings up
my knighthood please dubbed me Sir Richard of the lands down
under I would humbly request Bangers and Mash along with the
usual accoutrements of the roundtable. Man I have a 33 is
the magic number jingle and a result of my now former New
socialist slash Marx's boss, who unceremoniously moved me on can
I always have the best of the best jobs Carmen love is lit.
Kiwi Rick?
Adam Curry: Yes and then this is no problem for Jay. She's on she
got him on both lists 33 magic magic
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs for jobs
Adam Curry: well, I'd love to take the last one but it's about
our Yeah, you're getting
John C Dvorak: Linda Lubetkin in Lakewood, Colorado with jobs
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Unknown: John, we're gonna have to take that one over again.
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Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.
John C Dvorak: Showdown continues,
Adam Curry: does thank you all to these executive and Associate
Executive producers and PhD years we have a special ceremony
for you to hand out to your your PhDs, although I'm looking for a
bit of help with the imaging if anyone feels feels that they
could they're up to that. These are credits that are real
recognized across the entertainment industry, you can
probably display them on your LinkedIn on your resume. Or go
ahead if you don't have an IMDB account, because you're already
in the entertainment industry. Many big weeks who produced the
show are you can now become one imdb.com. All of that is
completely legal, correct and good. And a reminder that we
only guaranteed read the notes for execs and Associate
Executive producers sometimes we'll stop and we'll grab one on
the way down and John is going to take us through the 50s right
now.
John C Dvorak: Exactly. That start with who's at the top of
the list. To run Vargo and Hoffman Hills Illinois. 160.
Dame Shopska salad. Hey, go in Shazam. UK. I'm looking for some
D douching. Here. Counter San Francisco is at the meetup. 160
bucks. Dan Malley in Fremont, California. 113 Matt Grisham in
Zephyrhills, Florida 105
Adam Curry: This is our star Hill HAMP they got 11% from
every sale using the 22% discount code duckets 22 at Star
Hill hemp so there you go.
John C Dvorak: In eon Oh, yeah. Was Did you know that in Bera
beverage or beverage I'm sorry, it's beverage beverage or
average in Long Branch New Jersey 101 33. In another in
fields $100 Patricia S. Lewis in Merced, California. 100 She's
got a birthday card and a biscuit for a birthday always
give me a biscuit on my birthday. That's
Adam Curry: for for his birthday. For Parker Mitchell's
birthday from his Mimi from his Mimi
John C Dvorak: is Mimi is Mimi Marin, a Mandalay was at the
meetup. $100. Sure, lavish was at the meetup. And I promised
him when I was talking chatting with him that I would say the
following. Behind the schemes live Monday night on the no
agenda stream 730 PST
Adam Curry: second, there's a second part to that.
John C Dvorak: Oh, I don't think he was the second part read does
he? Okay, that'd be start over behind the scheme's live Monday
night. I know agenda stream at 7:30pm Join lavish for the BTS
spooky hour. Monday, October 23. Good work. Brian Lillard and
prosper Texas at 888. Kevin McLaughlin comes in 808 Breast
Cancer Awareness Month. Feel for lumps Savior bumps. K Mer in
Vancouver, Washington 808. John Siebert in Auburn, California he
came down from Auburn to go to the meetup. Oh, no. And he and
he came in with 808 Very cool. Kyle posi AK pase pase pase ek
in Hannibal, Missouri. Sar in hard dirt is 805 and It's a
Barnhart donation. It needs a D douching. You got your Barnhart
guy?
Adam Curry: Yeah, I got a Barnhart. Gosh. You've been de
Deus Barnhart, donation.
John C Dvorak: Go please. Brian Belen and Ashbery, New Jersey
AD. He does have a comment I want to say best show. Dakota
Cole in Sherwood Oregon at an issues with the notes from this
person. David Jarman in North Tora mudra in New South Wales,
Australia. 7990 Hurray. Adam said it correctly. Sir Rick in
Arlington, Washington 6996. Deer Kevin McLaughlin is back with
606 breast Breast Cancer Awareness Month. Saved the
blouse bunnies saved the blouse bunnies
Adam Curry: that blouse bunnies
John C Dvorak: Eric hauls in Richmond, Texas. 55 defied
Nicolas Oman in Thief River Falls Minnesota to defy for defy
Barry Henry in Rancho Palos Verdes days. 5242 Forest Martin
5005 Andrew Benz and Imperial Missouri 5005. Matt Illingworth
in Montclair, New Jersey 50 And these are all 50s. Now we're
gonna wrap this up pretty quickly. Slightly top heavy
today. Matt Killingsworth in the railing worth in Montclair, New
Jersey Robert case and mill spring, North Carolina, Michael
Manzella and hopping Hopkinton, Massachusetts, Matthias mill
chin ski in Hawthorne, California Daniel laboy in Bath,
Michigan Julian Robinson Aptos Nicholas route of which in
Harpers Ferry West Virginia. Michael Bennett event day in
Yonkers, New York needs a de douching you've been de deuced
Robert Hannon Poway, California Michael site Cora in New
Richmond, Wisconsin, Tatiana Prince in Hollywood, Florida,
Patrick, Sir Patrick and Macomb in New York City. Leanne Shipley
and Covington, Washington and last but not least, Michael
stadium Parts Unknown. These are all the people that made show
1601 a reality.
Adam Curry: We thank you all very much. Also everyone under
$50 We don't mention you for absolute anonymity. And you may
be on one of the many sustaining donations as a lot of them you
can find that our new donation website which is no agenda
donations.com Or of course the old trusty one four.org/and A
short list on the birthdays Baronet Nathan Lee Minar foster
Miller Foster, which is Mike Riley a happy birthday it
apparently is his birthday today one of our favorite no agenda
artists are Chris and Dame Kurt Kristen, with Sir William
messing a happy birthday for today and kiwi returns 48 Happy
birthday from everybody here the best podcast in the universe.
And now I would like to welcome our new PhDs to the podium. We
do this in one big ceremony and we hand them out right away so
they can flip that tassel to the other side. Welcome new doctors
of deconstruction Brandon Janssen, Keith Gibson, Kevin
Popovich, Derek J Fisker Derek Boggs, Eric tambor Dark Lady
does your brand and your organs and and a ham Lauren on you are
now official PhD graduates doctors in deconstruction Okay,
so this is where I need some ending or something I'm working
well you
John C Dvorak: know, we didn't do the last group. We did
ceremony
Adam Curry: we know I didn't have the ceremony ready.
John C Dvorak: You want it? Well, Kate was the last group
gonna get their little presentation
Adam Curry: on the next show. Okay, because I wasn't prepared
for it. And that's fine because I didn't even want to overlook
them. You forgot to have a meeting. We didn't forget. We
didn't forget we just didn't have the meeting. We have a make
good correction. Who was this from? If you would make a quick
correction if possible during John's reading of my note with
25% or 33% off kitchen and bathroom cabinets. He said if
you live in Pennsylvania, please correct this to the lower 47
states. I thought this 49 lower states anyway, this is not 80380
it's not available in commie Fornia do tend to to tax
implication so it's 47 I should
John C Dvorak: owe 40 Because the California call me foreign
why?
Adam Curry: Because you call me so that's why we have one Indane
we have a couple of nights so let us bring out the blade or
run in your blades. Hello good got your blade you got your Hold
John C Dvorak: on Wait Here you go
Adam Curry: up on the podium please does also Brandon's
conspiracy therapist Kevin Popovich Derek Boggs, Eric
pepper and kiwi rake all of you about no not about you are now
Damon knights no agenda roundtable I hereby pronounce
the KT esteemed Dark Lady does Sue or demon dragging a demon
dragon of the under city Parson of Florence or Kevin Knight of
the reading Clover sir Derek protector of section 707 Sir
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Unknown: No one.
Adam Curry: All right, we got to meet up reports. No, actually we
have one meetup reporting. What do we have now? This is odd.
something was going wrong with the meetup reports. Let me see.
I think this Oh, I'm getting an error on that one. Let me see if
I can play it like this. See if this works. Oh, second. No, that
was Dempsey's food and spirits. Well, for some reason that one
failed. Sorry about it. So we'd have to resend that to me.
Here's the October North Georgia meetup report.
Unknown: In the morning, Adam and John sir Bob here and
bringing you a meetup report from the north Georgia monthly
meetup. It was another successful meetup and we had
three new slaves show up and possibly a KGB spook. I'll toss
them around, see what anybody has to say. Thank you for your
courage and Happy Anniversary guys.
Hey, Dr. Sir. microts. Got questions for John about this
PhD program. Those count as continuing education, credits,
and honorary degree. And I need to also find out about some
student loan possibilities.
Thank you for what you do. Thanks for putting it out all
the time. I love you guys. I listened a lot. Keep safe. Stay
safe. John, This is Sam. We've talked in the morning. Thank you
so much for what you do and I love you guys. Keep at it. Shawn
here thanks for decolonizing my amygdala
in the morning Ben here go to a meet up. Jay here in Alpharetta
where today we learned if you're going to walk into the bar and a
tinfoil hat so that your fellow douchebags recognize you make
sure you're at the right bar
I'm that one person joined after Adam second appearance and Megan
Kelly in the morning
Adam Curry: I love the great reformer messy. But you know
what? You know what these people were not upset trigger than auto
like the gags the gags were funny. They sounded a little bit
of nice abbreviated that had a nice connection. They're from
all over the map all over the world, all kinds of different
backgrounds. That's what no agenda meetups are about. And
you You deserve it. You deserve to go to a meet up if you want
to go in today and you're in Michigan. You can still make the
Michigan local one. Douchebag Pat's birthday party at Red Dog
Saloon in Milford or Thursday, the Mile High meet up that'll be
at Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado. Here's what's
coming up. In the next couple of days. We got Toronto Victoria
BC, we got Epping new hamster I must be new New Hampshire, New
Hampshire, I guess. Virginia Starr, Idaho, Pennsylvania,
California, Switzerland, Zurich on the 28th we get Ireland on
the 29th. Very nice. Good to see you. There. We got Albuquerque,
New Mexico again on the 12th. Fredericksburg, Virginia, not
Texas on the 12th as well. Baffin doll on the 12th of
November in the Netherlands, we have SQL so we have Alabama,
Huntsville on the 18th stillbirth, the Netherlands on
the 30th Indianapolis on the fourth of December. That's
right, the keeper and I will be attending, looking forward to
that one as well. No agenda meetups, they give you
connection and that always leads to protection. If you can't find
one near you start one yourself They're easy no agenda
meetups.com
Unknown: go hang out with Dyson days. You won't be triggered.
You want to be where
everybody's safe. Bye
Adam Curry: All right, you go first. You're well,
John C Dvorak: you're only have two. Okay, I have a couple and I
made him kind of, you know? Lame. No, I made you one of them
just did that generic I would say they're evergreen. Oh, okay.
Evergreens Yes. Now one of them may not be good for the show.
Let's start with that one despicable it's despicable
Adam Curry: and corrupt it's not bad it's not
John C Dvorak: boring. And the other one is the is the
Evergreen if you can't come up with anything good this has to
go in thank you so much for joining us today.
Adam Curry: Wow Wow, you gotta you got to make that you got to
monetize that came through on left chan thank you so much for
joining us today. It's a little out of balance. Sorry, what
cancels for technical reasons. I think this bowl, but I have I
have a couple to select from and I think I have winners here.
Unknown: The algorithms are running everything it turns out.
Adam Curry: Little long.
Unknown: But what do you know?
Adam Curry: Oh my god. That was really stressful. Too long. This
I think this is the one podcast canceled. I think that's that's
good. You'd
John C Dvorak: run this with last time
Adam Curry: podcast canceled. I didn't run that one. Okay, I
will
John C Dvorak: go with I like it. I like actually like all
four years.
Adam Curry: Oh, do podcast cancel. Okay, I have a I have an
Africa clip for the end of show but I am overriding the after
the one Africa clip end of show for
John C Dvorak: this week before I do Africa in the show. I got
two clips about Biden in the smoking gun.
Adam Curry: Oh, brother. Really? You're going to bring the whole
show down?
Unknown: No, it's not that bad. Okay.
John C Dvorak: Look for something. Okay. I could do a
Ukrainian update.
Adam Curry: Now. What's this a bummer. Look, it's it's three
hours and 12 minutes. You're trying to elongate the show. I
can put this off. I think you should put that off because I
have an entertainment clip.
John C Dvorak: Okay, we'll go with you. And we'll do what you
what you say you have the control. I
Adam Curry: have the con George Clooney. Let's
Unknown: talk about George Clooney. He wants to see actors
back at work. So he's putting his money where his mouth is.
The Oscar winner and other top Hollywood stars are offering a
proposal worth $150 million dollars to encourage sag AFTRA
to end the strike that just started in July now. Clooney
spokesperson confirms the offer it would remove the cap undos
from the union's highest earners, raising an extra 150
million over the next three years for member benefits. Sag
AFTRA, President Fran Drescher doe went on Instagram, she
thanked George Clooney for the quote, extremely generous offer.
But she also elaborated it does not impact the contract that the
actors actually want. She said that under the law,
contributions for pension and health funds of a federally
regulated Labor Union must come from employers. It can't come
from the people who are the members of that union. It has to
come from from the employers. So talks between striking actors
and major studios. They broke down last week the actor strike
will markets 100 day tomorrow. So So French, of course, she
acknowledges that it's a generous offer. But because
there are things that the actors are looking for that have to do
with AI that have to do with streaming and residuals, the 150
million that's just cash doesn't address those
other facilities saying I'm just trying to help. Yeah. And
I think that they welcome that.
It is tough, though, to hear I'm coming up with $150 million. No,
thanks. But no, thanks
for Yeah, Thanks for Thanks. But
yeah, but But I understand the point she's making as well, if I
have other issues that need to be addressed, can't they do
both?
Right? Because it's like, okay. We'll be happy to say yeah,
like, let's not talk about the things that are really on the
table. And that
removes the studio from their responsibility. Why can't you do
both?
We're looking forward to now
we'll just say thank you, George. For your pocket.
Adam Curry: You know, he's back on the say you get some
distraction.
He's coming back. He's coming back. He's making a comeback.
What are you drinking at the end of the show?
John C Dvorak: Well, I got this from the meetup Lagunitas. Hoppy
refresher. I have to get up my game now that somebody made a
mockery of my commentary. And this is one of these is a beer
into show mixes.
Unknown: This is a beer. No, it's
John C Dvorak: a hoppy, refreshers water that pop
flavored
Adam Curry: What's the hoppy refresher show title?
John C Dvorak: Happy refresher.
Adam Curry: We have endless show mixes from Steve Jones, Dr. AI
and Jesse Coyne Nelson, and thank you to our indoor show
mixers as always, we love you. And coming up next I know agenda
stream before the scheme's V for V boost of a music show with
blueberry and lavish. Could it get any better than that? I
don't think so. No, I hope you enjoyed your media
deconstruction for today. We look forward to meeting you here
again on Thursday. Remember, Monday is JC D phone free
Monday. And go to a meet up, William, coming to you from the
heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA Region number six
in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where Believe it
or not, it's raining. I'm Jesse Devorah.
Adam Curry: We return on Thursday right here on no
agenda. Remember us at the vorak.org/na no agenda
donations.com Till the next time adios mofos who we who we
answered voices,
John C Dvorak: voices, voices pounding, pounding ourselves in
the face. Face to fist best. Best and you can't stop yourself
for and you're starting to hear voice voices because your voice
Adam Curry: seems like there's something going on. And just
letting yourself become become one night he tried to knock
himself out
John C Dvorak: on your voices, voices. Because we'll be caught
fist pounding yourself in the face with your own fist, fist
Adam Curry: to his knuckles, knuckles to his face and
compounded compounded over and over and over again. Because it
seems like there's something going on going on
Unknown: going little by little.
John C Dvorak: Just letting yourself become become become
become
Adam Curry: Somehow I don't think it's 45,000 maybe 4500
John C Dvorak: I said 45 desperately says 45,000 as note
Adam Curry: doesn't know doesn't says 4500 But I say
John C Dvorak: 45 45,000 Using his 45,000 uses oh nice what I
said I misread it. Okay, got
Unknown: it gathered in masse it's a memo that describes how
we're going to take out seven countries in five years. Which
is at
Black Massey is
John C Dvorak: when I first came to office one of the first
meetings I had was at the Pentagon with generals evil
minds that blood destruction
Unknown: Bolton has always said let's go to war but he's not the
one who's gonna go on the forefront. He's a coward
destined structure. The leaders of Iran are racketeers behind
every problem is Iran what you said 2016 and liked it when you
said no more stupid wars.
You got a roll president in the White House surrounded by these
Uber hawks that thirst for another war with Iran.
International Atomic Energy Agency has never found Iran in
contravention of stipulations in the deal.
John C Dvorak: If Iran wants to find that will be the official
end of Iran never threaten the United States. Again, I'm not
Unknown: somebody that wants to go into war in the United States
heading towards another Middle East showdown, this time with
Iran.
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