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John C Dvorak: Putting your mind
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Adam Curry: Adam curry, John C
Devorah. Rain 2023 This Year

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Unknown: This is no agenda.
We're counting to

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Adam Curry: seven and
broadcasting live from the heart

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of the Texas Hill Country he and
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morning, everybody. I'm Adam
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John C Dvorak: from Northern
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cheering something. I'm John C.
Dvorak.

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Unknown: Buzzkill.

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Adam Curry: What are they
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John C Dvorak: It's 40. Niners
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Adam Curry: in Rotterdam,
they're cheering to. To what?

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Oh, it's Palestinians on the
street. Oh, oh, yeah. Oh, no.

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This is true. Oh, yeah. Oh,
yeah. All over Europe. They do

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this by a Palestinian flag. I
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it's Palestinians. I mean, it's
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They're waving the Palestine
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hooting and Hoot and hooting and
hollering Oh yeah. So this is

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one of those days when it's like
I love doing the show but it's

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all these types of events that
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involves Israel become so
polarizing and and also amongst

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the no agenda nation and people
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John C Dvorak: I'm well we have
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do have some clips from NBC. But
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NBC did I think a very good job
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because they had of course
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Adam Curry: da so they had the
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John C Dvorak: and find it and
the great thing is I've got

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these four clips, and it was
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they bring Engel in they
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foreign correspondent now this
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He's giving actual reports. He's
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giving CIA talking. Please

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Adam Curry: come on and be it's
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John C Dvorak: they cut to
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Adam Curry: then the talking
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Istanbul,

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which is where you are, which is
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important news from Israel.

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John C Dvorak: So let's play
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Unknown: Good evening. We begin
tonight with one of America's

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closest allies attacked and now
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Adam Curry: Hold on a second.
There is something is wrong with

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this report right off the bat.
This makes no sense. I don't

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understand. Because every single
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know, you know, the important
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John C Dvorak: is coming. Oh,
it's coming. Okay. It's coming

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on your horses,

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Unknown: and unprecedented and
terrifying. Palestinian militant

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group Hamas choosing a Jewish
holiday to launch an attack on

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and into Israel. There was the
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but also incursions by
militants. These were the scenes

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of commerce fighters storming
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Adam Curry: kudos kudos for the
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say I'm very impressed Hamas is
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come out confirming it has taken
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hostages soldiers and civilians
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Israeli official calling today.
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far has been swift but only just
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leveled entire buildings in
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Adam Curry: Hey, he messed it
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Unknown: entire buildings in
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Hamas. Oh, he missed the Hamas.
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people on each side and is
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across the region and here in
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Adam Curry: And I'd have to say
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John C Dvorak: well. This is
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Adam Curry: close. I point out
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are evaluating this from a media
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you're laughing at people being
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we're not. We are deconstructing
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John C Dvorak: This morning the
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gave new numbers which nobody
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Adam Curry: past we talk we just
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says of 700

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John C Dvorak: Dead Israeli so
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hostages. And those are the base
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more accurate ones. That's so we
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the Sanchez fans? This guy's
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Adam Curry: All right more from
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John C Dvorak: This guy's good.
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Adam Curry: hold on a second.
Not only he's he's good, but

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they've got the report setup.
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Unknown: it looks like a scene
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John C Dvorak: A surprise by the
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there was saying, Oh, this is
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Harbor. I can nobody says it's
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Adam Curry: which was Oh, yeah.
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Unknown: It looks like a scene
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A surprise attack beginning with
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waves of heavily armed
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of Gaza. And onto the streets of
cities and towns across southern

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Israel. The militants taking
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them barefoot through their own
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cries of triumph as they spirit
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This woman, bloodied zip tied
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she's forced into the back of a
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Adam Curry: Interesting. I don't
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but this this. This is a zip
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terrified, very interesting
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here. zip tied and terrified,
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yeah, it's yes, of course it
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she's forced into the back of a
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and hear the body of an Israeli
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of a tank and beaten by the mob.
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captives. Their exact number is
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options are on the table,
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invasion of Gaza to bring them
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operation. But at war. And every
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we're at we're at war not in an
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John C Dvorak: That is
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Adam Curry: Yeah. I mean, Russia
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operation, which I guess is not
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John C Dvorak: like every time.
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Adam Curry: not an OP people.
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Unknown: scale ground invasion
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Israel, we are at war, not in an
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Adam Curry: that's almost like
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they were doing an OP a test up
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whatever. You know, there's
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Unknown: These civilians killed
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kibbutz victims packed into a
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blank range. The surprise attack
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from Hamas and Islamic Jihad.
blasting their way through the

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security barrier separating
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today, completely overrun by
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military caught badly off guard
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Adam Curry: Now, there's
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this report, and I don't
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was NPR who had the the parent
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John C Dvorak: It would this
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or so. There were some there
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paraglider thing is still
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Adam Curry: Here's here's me. Do
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clip? Yeah, sure. Jump in.
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Unknown: I mean for hours that
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with, and this is still
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flew across the border on
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Adam Curry: I saw the footage of
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everyone's talking about the
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that bad stuff didn't happen,
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John C Dvorak: have any extra
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Adam Curry: Well, there's
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John C Dvorak: was the footage
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Adam Curry: at home I'm sorry
we're not we're not doing our

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report properly. Yeah. Still
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John C Dvorak: It's it's like
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there shooting at 45 down at
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going to do a sneak he's going
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they're not going to just gun

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Adam Curry: this is exactly the
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John C Dvorak: it's been pulled
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D you won't hear any more about
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Adam Curry: glad we got to be in
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some reports like that air air
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John C Dvorak: if he got calm
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Adam Curry: auto gyro. Yeah,
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John C Dvorak: still popular No,
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Adam Curry: I love auto gyros
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John C Dvorak: They're blank.
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Adam Curry: you know they had
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John C Dvorak: giant thing.
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about 20 years ago. There's a
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the bay. But Bay this Bay Area's
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John C Dvorak: not much
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Adam Curry: is a power power
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John C Dvorak: kept calling him
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Adam Curry: not that's not
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John C Dvorak: What anyway, that
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hear anything about that
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an OP aspect to it. Let's go to
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Adam Curry: That's the actual

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Unknown: Prime Minister
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attack by Hamas saying quote,

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the enemy will pay a price like
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Richard Engel joins us now

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Richard, what likely happens
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only question is how big it will
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not been shy about using its
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hit Hamas targets in Gaza when
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real limiting factor here is
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launches a broad invasion of
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inadvertently kill some of its
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Hamas knows better than Israel,
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human shields. So I think what
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period of intelligence gathering
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operations, the other limiting
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John C Dvorak: Okay, so he's not
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this isn't a report. This is an
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Adam Curry: I'm surprised he
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just two days ago, if he was in
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to report on. I'm just going to
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Friday so one day before Richard
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ready to report on the other
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complete op in the early

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damage is around 95% and it is
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home office on Sunday, the
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Syrian Kurdish YPG militia fired
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Thursday evening, which Turkey
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continued onslaught from Turkish
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done? The court is Washington
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history but anchor used to call

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to tell its NATO ally in no
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cease its support for the YPG
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classes as a terrorist
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Adam Curry: kind of went by the
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under attack for gone from for
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about it. No, to done, but he
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, he was a
maybe that's what he was there

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for us or somebody Miss was
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should well of course, we have
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the newsletter, which is the
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fourth clip, which includes it
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is a questioning the validity of
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Unknown: Israel has some of the
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agencies in the world. But
somehow they were caught totally

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off guard, and so was the US
Mali hunters following that

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force tonight.

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Today will go down in history as
a massive state intelligence

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failure, the Palestinian Hamas
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both completely by surprise, and
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the course of many months. And
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to have been blind to it is
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think lead to an overhaul of the
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Washington, apparently also in
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official telling NBC News, we
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visuals telling NBC News that if
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have had been doubled back
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Hamas was able to identify those
individuals and feed false

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information back to Israel.

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Adam Curry: But was that
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Adam Curry: one kid is bringing
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John C Dvorak: this particular
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out on Saturday. They had
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out of the woodwork. It was one
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another after another. And it
was like everyone had to get

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their fee. Of course, at this
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Adam Curry: Brennan hasn't been
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to come out on Amazon

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Unknown: and whether or not
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individuals and feed false
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also I think they have to wonder
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sensitive technical collection
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up anything.

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breaching the border fence was
unprecedented using

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Adam Curry: Brennan and Muslim,
then we determine that. Yes,

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Unknown: about why they're very
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technical collection systems
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breaching the border fence was
unprecedented seen here in Hamas

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video. But bursting into
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Tel Aviv. And the timing is no
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the 1973 October invasion by
Egypt and Syria also caught

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Israel completely off guard.
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John C Dvorak: All right. So the
question remains whether this

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was they knew about this in
advance and they needed to use

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it for some reason, because
there's been nothing but

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political disarray in Israel
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Adam Curry: Hold on, hold on. I
have a couple of boots on the

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ground reports. Sir Brian of
London. And you know, so he and

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he's been under rocket attack
for years. And he's always been

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reporting back and his his first
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think this is the messaging
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receiving this I'm not saying
he's wrong or anything. But he

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say no, this was clearly a lapse
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Israel relies too much on
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and that this just, you know,
this that they got, they were

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lapse, they they were lacks
they, they lapse in their

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security, because they were just
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have boots on the ground from
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who says he has a friend who was
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possible. And here's the quote
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heavy rocket attack that forced
Israeli into shelters, a large

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number of Hamas terrorists
overrun the era's checkpoint and

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broke through some border fence
killing soldiers. They invaded

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several Israeli border towns
attacking civilians in their

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homes, a large gathering of
young Israelis at a music

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festival in the area were
targeted indiscriminately sounds

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like he's promoting something to
us. Families murdered inside

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their homes, many casualties
injured. Multiple kidnappings,

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regional manhunt operations,
ongoing large military

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mobilization, undoubtedly
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preparations for possible
Hizballah attack in the north is

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underway. southern Israel is on
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since yesterday. So the oh and
the Iranian and Russian axis aim

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to undermine the potential deal
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So these are all talking points.
And I think this this whole

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thing behooves a number of
people number one, above all,

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and it behooves everyone except
for dead people. Of course, the

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military industrial complex,
could not be better timing, no

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24 billion for Ukraine, no
worries, Biden has already

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rumored to be setting up 100
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to Israel. So they got a four
bagger out of this, from 24

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billion 200 billion.

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John C Dvorak: And there's
nothing to say that there aren't

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elements I in fact, I'd be
shocked. If there weren't, by

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the way, just go back my
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interrupted, which was the fact
that they've had nothing but

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riots in the streets in Israel
over this judiciary thing. And

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this benefit beneficial chi
Bosch on that immediately.

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Adam Curry: Netanyahu needed
cover. And then But, yes,

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John C Dvorak: but there's
nothing that tells me that

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there's not tons of elements
within the Israeli system within

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the government and the politics,
that they don't want necessarily

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want this deal with Saudi Arabia

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Adam Curry: either. No, no, no,
but I think it's much bigger

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than this. By the way, BBC did a
much better job than then our US

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media at bringing some other
voices on, which I don't want to

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skip. Which, you know, because
of course, you have a lot of,

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you know, where's Roger Waters,
by the way, he should be saying,

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Yeah, this is great. Yeah,
that's how you Banham. These are

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all the people who were anti
Israel water. Where's Ilan, Omar

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and AOC saying, Wow, that's
great. They really they did a

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good job. No, you're not gonna
hear that right now. But the BBC

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at least brings on some
alternative voices, which I want

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Unknown: I mean, Egypt has
already warned of the dangers of

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of escalation. I mean, where is
this going? Israel has has said

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it is at war.

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war. We have to also remember

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that Israel under international
law is the occupying power. It

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is a military superpower by
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accused and has been found
guilty of prolific human rights

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violations against Palestinian
civilians. The fact that the

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occupied is now attacking the
occupier. It is novel it is new,

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but Gaza is not occupied. It is
it is according to the United

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Nations it remains occupied
every aspect of Palestinian life

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in Gaza remains under the
control All of the Israeli

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military in the Israeli state,

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but with this interested
endorsement of the Hamas assault

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by the Palestinian president,
He's removing himself, isn't he

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from any kind of role as
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I'm not sure that he has
endorsed anything. But again, I

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think it's what's going to be

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a Palestinian, the Palestinian
people have the right to defend

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themselves against the terror of
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that the statement of legal fact
they the Palestinians have the

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right to defend themselves. I'm
not sure that that if the

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Palestinian leadership wanted to
endorse the Hamas actions, that

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they wouldn't have been more
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New Order who's a Palestinian
living in Ramallah?

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Adam Curry: Tell she's in
Ramallah. Okay, then,

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John C Dvorak: well, of course,
the BBC is the big apologist for

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the Palestinians. That's because
you only I don't have an

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eclipse. But I could have gotten
some nicer. What's the point?

455
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The only outlet here that we're
going to hear this, this angle

456
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is going to be democracy. Now.

457
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Adam Curry: I have another clip
from BBC. And this is, this is

458
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what is being touted as the
reason.

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Unknown: And during the current
Jewish holiday of Sukkot, this

460
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just ending. There were quite
large scale events on the actual

461
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compound of the Al Aqsa Mosque
in Jerusalem, which is the third

462
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holiest site for Muslims in the
world. But it's also revered by

463
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Jews as the site of the Jewish
temple, the ancient Jewish

464
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temple. And they were praying
there. Now it doesn't sound

465
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much, but that's something which
Israelis don't permit, and which

466
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is considered to be a highly,
highly provocative act. And so,

467
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Hamas have been saying that
they're acting to protect

468
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Jerusalem and they've used the
word Jerusalem and the, what

469
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they're calling this attack,
they're calling it Jerusalem

470
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flood. So they're connecting it
very much with that, because

471
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anything that happens that seems
to alter any kind of status quo

472
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in Jerusalem does almost
inevitably lead to violence. And

473
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I think that, I mean, I've been
expecting some kind of serious

474
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explosion for months, and I
didn't think it would happen

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like this.

476
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Adam Curry: Right. So they're
saying, hey, you know, the, the

477
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Hasidic Jews overran the temple,
and they were praying, it's not

478
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allowed. So that was
retaliation. Sky News, actually

479
00:27:29,430 --> 00:27:33,330
did something that you would
expect someone maybe democracy

480
00:27:33,330 --> 00:27:36,660
now somewhere, someone would at
least give an abbreviated

481
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history of the state of Israel.
And they did it in one minute

482
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and three seconds.

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Unknown: So let's talk about
first of all, why Israel has

484
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been the center of so much
conflict.

485
00:27:47,010 --> 00:27:50,100
Yeah, good afternoon. simer.
Before we go into the classic

486
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disclaimers here is that this
enormous emotive subject, just

487
00:27:53,340 --> 00:27:56,370
one word can be taken out of
context. And that's often why

488
00:27:56,370 --> 00:27:58,920
it's not talked about widely,
but it is really important to

489
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,520
have some historical context for
our viewers. Where do you start

490
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,520
with history because this goes
back to Babylonian times. And

491
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literally 1000s of years of
religious conflicts never the

492
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lines on the map today and
largely formed around the Second

493
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World War, when the victorious
Allies were looking for

494
00:28:15,300 --> 00:28:19,530
somewhere to put 100,000
repatriated effectually Jews and

495
00:28:19,530 --> 00:28:23,070
the UN special commission was
advised that the best way to do

496
00:28:23,070 --> 00:28:26,820
this was to partition Palestine
into two states, our states and

497
00:28:27,030 --> 00:28:30,210
Jewish states. And the
arrangements around juicer a

498
00:28:30,210 --> 00:28:33,600
Jerusalem were international
control, but un administered the

499
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trouble is with the lens of
history on it, that left a US

500
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sponsored enclave of Israel in
the middle of a continent of

501
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Arab states.

502
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Adam Curry: Okay, well, that's a
short explanation.

503
00:28:46,650 --> 00:28:49,500
John C Dvorak: The irony, the
irony, is that the UN bitches

504
00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:54,630
and moans about this now. Yes,
it is. They're the ones who did

505
00:28:54,630 --> 00:28:55,410
it. Well, actually,

506
00:28:55,620 --> 00:28:57,780
Adam Curry: there's a follow up
to this. And then I think I have

507
00:28:57,810 --> 00:29:00,720
something that will set set up
straight on what's going on

508
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:00,990
here.

509
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Unknown: And picking up on that
then Israel is a very much a

510
00:29:04,650 --> 00:29:08,730
western style democracy. bang in
the middle of very different

511
00:29:08,730 --> 00:29:12,900
societies, cultures and the way
politically, places are run had

512
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,570
What issues does that pose?

513
00:29:15,660 --> 00:29:20,010
Yeah, well, literally the day
after that the Israel was

514
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,290
announced it was formed in
Independence state Arab States

515
00:29:22,290 --> 00:29:24,870
attacked it because there's
almost before the strike, trying

516
00:29:24,870 --> 00:29:28,110
to make sure that it didn't it
didn't survive that led to years

517
00:29:28,110 --> 00:29:31,980
of conflict. 1967 was the big
one. But the borders that

518
00:29:32,010 --> 00:29:34,980
emerged from that 1967 were
never actually acknowledged by

519
00:29:34,980 --> 00:29:37,710
the international community
since then, the Egypt border

520
00:29:37,710 --> 00:29:41,880
down near you. Back in 82 was
agreed the Jordan border was

521
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:46,500
agreed in 94. But apart from
that, it still remained largely

522
00:29:46,650 --> 00:29:50,400
unresolved. the Gaza Strip is a
really good example. 2.3 million

523
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,340
people there. They were
isolated. They've got lousy

524
00:29:53,340 --> 00:29:56,580
economy, they've got a real
problem with employment. And

525
00:29:56,580 --> 00:30:01,440
that's been rife there for four,
five minutes and Groups largely

526
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,420
got Hezbollah, obviously
sponsored by Lebanon to the

527
00:30:03,420 --> 00:30:06,840
north. But Hamas is the big one.
They're the de facto governing

528
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:11,430
authority in Gaza. And their own
their formation was to liberate

529
00:30:11,850 --> 00:30:16,320
Palestine. That was their entire
aim of getting involved. And of

530
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,860
course, the trouble is they're
funded by Iran and Syria, who of

531
00:30:19,860 --> 00:30:22,440
course, have their own agendas
here. So this is much wider than

532
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,390
simply just about Israel.

533
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,230
Okay, and let's talk about the
here. And now. Why has Hamas

534
00:30:28,230 --> 00:30:30,810
chosen to carry out this attack
right now?

535
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:35,580
It's a fascinating question. And
what we can say is that Israel

536
00:30:35,580 --> 00:30:38,730
is actually a very important
major power, it's got modern

537
00:30:38,730 --> 00:30:42,090
army, modern air force, modern
life. And these are some of

538
00:30:42,090 --> 00:30:46,050
their in southern Israel earlier
on in the last 24 hours. By

539
00:30:46,050 --> 00:30:49,890
contrast, how mass is basically
we've got some footage of them

540
00:30:49,890 --> 00:30:53,940
on the on the border of Gaza,
but that Hamas is actually

541
00:30:54,060 --> 00:30:57,360
almost it's just a militia. It's
got much smaller arms, it's got

542
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,940
much smaller military
capability. So Hamas can't take

543
00:30:59,940 --> 00:31:03,630
on Israel at war. And therefore
what they've done is they've

544
00:31:03,660 --> 00:31:06,330
seen some hostages, take them
away, hide in the urban

545
00:31:06,330 --> 00:31:09,630
environment, and then forced to
negotiate the problem is I

546
00:31:09,630 --> 00:31:12,600
suspect, Israel, and it doesn't
look like it's on the verge of

547
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,780
negotiation. And this could end
up being a very long war. And

548
00:31:15,780 --> 00:31:19,560
although the US has said well
for support Israel fully, if

549
00:31:19,590 --> 00:31:22,680
Israel goes into Gaza, if the
civilian casualties start to

550
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,710
rise, that that support might
start to waver.

551
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,790
Adam Curry: So the timing of all
this is what I find interesting,

552
00:31:29,790 --> 00:31:33,780
you know, the 50th anniversary
of the Yom Kippur War, it's on

553
00:31:33,780 --> 00:31:38,190
the, it took place on Sabbath,
and a lot of Christians saying,

554
00:31:38,220 --> 00:31:42,870
oh, Matthew 24, you know, this
is it. Jesus says, Pray that

555
00:31:42,870 --> 00:31:45,540
your fight will not take place
in the winter on the Sabbath,

556
00:31:45,570 --> 00:31:48,330
you know, all these all these
biblical things come to pass.

557
00:31:48,660 --> 00:31:55,260
This reeks of the the elite
death cult, who are responsible

558
00:31:55,260 --> 00:31:59,340
for well, really the West Clark
seven. And so I pulled the West

559
00:31:59,340 --> 00:32:02,400
Clark seven clip, which I'm, of
course going to play, I have the

560
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,950
extended version, which we I
don't think we've played in a

561
00:32:04,950 --> 00:32:10,230
long time, where he goes into
much more detail about the seven

562
00:32:10,230 --> 00:32:12,630
countries we're going to take
over in five years, which of

563
00:32:12,630 --> 00:32:14,880
course did not happen, because
that would have been done by

564
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:19,770
2000. So a long, long time ago.
But number six and seven on

565
00:32:19,770 --> 00:32:24,150
those lists are Syria and Iran.
And the reasoning is the part of

566
00:32:24,150 --> 00:32:26,730
the clip, which I think brings
us some clarity. And then I came

567
00:32:26,730 --> 00:32:31,320
back to the Pentagon about This
is General Wesley Clark. And in

568
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,950
an interview that, that I don't
know if he regrets it, but he

569
00:32:34,950 --> 00:32:39,420
basically gave out top secret
information right after 911 what

570
00:32:39,420 --> 00:32:44,610
the plan was, and you can only
presume that 911 was put in

571
00:32:44,610 --> 00:32:48,450
place to kick off that plan. So
when people are talking about

572
00:32:48,450 --> 00:32:52,620
Israel's 911, you know, you
start to think West Clark,

573
00:32:52,620 --> 00:32:53,010
seven,

574
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Unknown: and then I came back to
the Pentagon about six weeks

575
00:32:55,050 --> 00:32:58,860
later, I saw the same officer. I
said, Why? Why am we attacked

576
00:32:58,860 --> 00:33:01,110
Iraq, we still gonna attack
Iraqi said, oh, sorry. He says

577
00:33:01,110 --> 00:33:04,170
it's worse than that. He pulled
up a piece of paper off his desk

578
00:33:04,170 --> 00:33:06,240
because I just got this memo
from the Secretary of Defense's

579
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,850
office, it says we're going to
attack and destroy the

580
00:33:08,850 --> 00:33:12,630
government's in seven countries
in five years. We're going to

581
00:33:12,630 --> 00:33:15,750
start with Iraq. And then we're
going to move to Syria, Lebanon,

582
00:33:15,750 --> 00:33:21,390
Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran.
I seven, seven countries in five

583
00:33:21,390 --> 00:33:25,470
years. I said this in a
classified memo. He said, Yes,

584
00:33:25,470 --> 00:33:28,530
sir. I said, Well, don't show it
to me. He was about to show it

585
00:33:28,530 --> 00:33:31,770
to me. So because I want to talk
about it. And I couldn't believe

586
00:33:31,770 --> 00:33:34,170
it would really be true. But
that's actually what happened.

587
00:33:35,130 --> 00:33:39,000
These people took control of the
policy in the United States. And

588
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:44,730
I realized then it came back to
me a 1991 meeting I had with

589
00:33:44,730 --> 00:33:47,970
Paul Wolfowitz. You know, in
2001, he was Deputy Secretary of

590
00:33:47,970 --> 00:33:51,510
Defense, but in 1991, he was the
Undersecretary of Defense for

591
00:33:51,510 --> 00:33:54,510
Policy to number three position
in the Pentagon. So I called and

592
00:33:54,870 --> 00:33:59,580
up there he was available. And
he brought me in and I said to

593
00:33:59,610 --> 00:34:03,510
Paul, I sit and this is 1991. I
said, Mr. Secretary, you must be

594
00:34:03,510 --> 00:34:05,760
pretty happy with the
performance of the troops and

595
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:10,320
Desert Storm. And he said, Well,
yeah, he said, but but not

596
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,410
really. He said, Because the
truth is we should have gotten

597
00:34:13,410 --> 00:34:16,500
rid of Saddam Hussein. And we
didn't. He said, but one thing

598
00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:20,010
we did learn, he said, we
learned that we can use our

599
00:34:20,010 --> 00:34:23,460
military in the region in the
Middle East, and the Soviets

600
00:34:23,460 --> 00:34:27,570
won't stop us. He said, and
we've got about five or 10 years

601
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:33,750
to clean up those old Soviet
client regimes, Syria, Iran,

602
00:34:33,900 --> 00:34:38,070
Iraq, before the next great
superpower comes on to

603
00:34:38,070 --> 00:34:41,340
challenges. It was a pretty
stunning thing. You mean, the

604
00:34:41,340 --> 00:34:44,670
purpose of the military is to
start wars and change

605
00:34:44,670 --> 00:34:48,060
governments. It's not to sort of
deter conflict. We're going to

606
00:34:48,090 --> 00:34:53,040
invade countries and I you know,
my mind was spinning. This

607
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:58,020
country was taken over by a
group of people with a policy

608
00:34:58,020 --> 00:35:06,360
coup Wolfowitz and Cheney and
Rumsfeld. And you could name a

609
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,540
half dozen other collaborators
from the Project for a New

610
00:35:09,540 --> 00:35:14,910
American Century. They wanted us
to destabilize the Middle East,

611
00:35:15,090 --> 00:35:20,310
turn it upside down, make it
under our control.

612
00:35:21,060 --> 00:35:23,730
Adam Curry: And that is exactly
you know, there's no

613
00:35:23,730 --> 00:35:27,870
coincidences in the kingdom, Joe
Biden releasing $6 billion,

614
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,760
which is total bull crap. But
the the politic the politicians

615
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,120
are out right away. You can see
all of them. Well, this is Joe

616
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,900
Biden's failed because he he
gave $6 billion to Iran. And

617
00:35:39,900 --> 00:35:43,380
then they they financed this
whole thing, bowl crap. These

618
00:35:43,380 --> 00:35:45,840
weapons probably came from
Afghanistan, which no one has

619
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,170
said, because it's more likely
that the Taliban a billion

620
00:35:49,170 --> 00:35:52,470
dollars worth of it. The Taliban
brought that down. Some of its

621
00:35:52,470 --> 00:35:54,840
from Ukraine. No, this this,

622
00:35:55,260 --> 00:35:59,850
John C Dvorak: just as an aside,
that $6 billion has yet to be

623
00:35:59,850 --> 00:36:02,430
released. I know it's fully
release, you have to do we

624
00:36:02,430 --> 00:36:05,160
haven't signed off on a nickel
of it that exam and use a nickel

625
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:05,640
of it. But

626
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,190
Adam Curry: that's what that was
the narrative, right? And what I

627
00:36:08,190 --> 00:36:12,210
just said to teen I said, you
watch, here comes the narrative

628
00:36:12,210 --> 00:36:15,510
is there. It doesn't matter. The
whole point is to implicate

629
00:36:15,510 --> 00:36:19,710
Iran, and have Israel do the
business. And they're not going

630
00:36:19,710 --> 00:36:22,890
to nuke of this is another Oh,
this isn't world war three. No,

631
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:28,080
no, that makes zero sense.
Nobody wants to rub allies with

632
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:32,040
nukes. The whole point is to rub
allies and build up again. You

633
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,530
can't do that in nuclear waste,

634
00:36:35,010 --> 00:36:38,550
John C Dvorak: not mess. You
can't that's not normal.

635
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,120
realisation needs to take place,
as we've already shown how to do

636
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,590
it, right? Yes,

637
00:36:43,710 --> 00:36:46,620
Adam Curry: we have the
technology of globalization. But

638
00:36:46,620 --> 00:36:49,740
that's that's what's on deck
here. That's what and this is

639
00:36:49,740 --> 00:36:53,550
above Biden. That's when I saw
all those Yahoo's come out

640
00:36:53,550 --> 00:36:57,480
again. And thank you for, for
showing us that even Brennan

641
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,290
comes out. Well, that's the
opera right there. That's the op

642
00:37:01,290 --> 00:37:04,980
and they don't give a crap about
a couple 100 people dying, they

643
00:37:04,980 --> 00:37:08,490
don't care at all. They don't
care about Israel. They care

644
00:37:08,490 --> 00:37:14,250
about destabilizing the Middle
East to to drive or to have the

645
00:37:14,250 --> 00:37:18,510
upper hand over Russia,
particularly in Syria. And in

646
00:37:18,510 --> 00:37:22,170
Iran and China there that's
that's their upper hand that's

647
00:37:23,580 --> 00:37:26,220
John C Dvorak: based on this
thesis that means the real

648
00:37:26,220 --> 00:37:31,410
target of this whole thing this
is is Iran. When some reason to

649
00:37:31,620 --> 00:37:37,440
do something there so Israel,
which hot headed Yahoo, sent a

650
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,800
couple of fighters and blow up a
couple of news.

651
00:37:40,830 --> 00:37:45,180
Adam Curry: Yeah. Oh, yeah. They
probably have some dudes waiting

652
00:37:45,180 --> 00:37:48,990
in the wings ready to ready to
emerge after they blow some blow

653
00:37:48,990 --> 00:37:53,400
some molars up. Yeah. This is
going to be targeted strikes.

654
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,030
But this is not an OP. This is
NOT operation people. This is

655
00:37:57,030 --> 00:38:00,660
war. It's not up. Whatever.
Don't look at it as an OP. It's

656
00:38:00,660 --> 00:38:05,130
a total up and it's it's it's a
cult. These people are sick.

657
00:38:05,970 --> 00:38:12,000
They're sick. They are and
goodbye, Ukraine. Oh, boy,

658
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:19,980
goodbye. You're over. You're
done. You're totally done. I'll

659
00:38:19,980 --> 00:38:22,050
give you an idea. We can move
away from this because there's

660
00:38:22,050 --> 00:38:25,170
nothing else we can do right
now. There's nothing much we can

661
00:38:25,170 --> 00:38:29,400
say. But just to show you who
the sick people are, and it's

662
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:34,890
politicians, it's media people.
It's it's it's all the people in

663
00:38:34,890 --> 00:38:38,790
Brussels is the United Nations
people, you know, is of course

664
00:38:38,790 --> 00:38:42,720
all run ultimately by bankers.
That's just how it works.

665
00:38:43,050 --> 00:38:45,600
Bankers, and I'm sure someone
will say, Oh, you're anti

666
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,670
Semite. No, no, not all bankers
are Jews.

667
00:38:49,950 --> 00:38:52,080
John C Dvorak: The former New
York Bankers of banks are

668
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,540
Jewish. So they're all Jewish. I
don't think so.

669
00:38:54,570 --> 00:38:57,660
Adam Curry: Yeah, exactly. Now
they live on a whole different

670
00:38:57,660 --> 00:39:02,580
plane. So Jens Stoltenberg, then
we didn't play this. But he came

671
00:39:02,580 --> 00:39:06,210
out maybe a week and a half or
two weeks ago. And he made the

672
00:39:06,210 --> 00:39:10,680
most bizarre statement, which
which was counter to the entire

673
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,970
Ukraine narrative. Here it is

674
00:39:15,060 --> 00:39:16,170
Unknown: first and put in

675
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,940
extra sent a draft treat that
they wanted NATO to sign to

676
00:39:20,940 --> 00:39:25,050
promise no more NATO
enlargement. That was what what

677
00:39:25,050 --> 00:39:29,430
he sent us. And that was that
that was a pre condition for not

678
00:39:29,460 --> 00:39:34,650
invade Ukraine. Of course, we
didn't sign up. So he went to

679
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,370
war to prevent NATO, more NATO
close its borders.

680
00:39:38,820 --> 00:39:41,760
Adam Curry: So this youngster,
Jens Stoltenberg, the boss of

681
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:46,800
NATO, admitting that Putin went
to war because NATO was

682
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:51,660
expanding towards their borders,
specifically in Ukraine. Yeah.

683
00:39:52,170 --> 00:39:54,450
John C Dvorak: Which we've known
all along, right. But now he

684
00:39:54,450 --> 00:39:56,490
said it. Yeah. Which

685
00:39:56,490 --> 00:39:59,280
Adam Curry: is weird. And thank
you internet for creating a

686
00:39:59,280 --> 00:39:59,970
supercar.

687
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,450
Unknown: This is fundamentally
not about NATO expansion. It's

688
00:40:03,450 --> 00:40:05,670
John C Dvorak: never about NATO
enlargement. It's not about

689
00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:06,300
NATO. It's

690
00:40:06,300 --> 00:40:08,610
Unknown: not about NATO
expanding toward Russia. This

691
00:40:08,610 --> 00:40:09,210
was never

692
00:40:09,210 --> 00:40:10,770
about NATO. Absolutely nothing

693
00:40:10,770 --> 00:40:15,780
to do with NATO expansion as it
has nothing to do with NATO. Not

694
00:40:15,780 --> 00:40:17,910
about NATO. So really about
NATO.

695
00:40:18,059 --> 00:40:22,049
It's not about NATO seriously.
It's not about this was never

696
00:40:22,049 --> 00:40:22,409
about

697
00:40:22,410 --> 00:40:25,590
NATO. It was never about NATO.
Let's be honest, this doesn't

698
00:40:25,590 --> 00:40:27,750
have anything to do with NATO.
Nothing to do with NATO at all.

699
00:40:27,750 --> 00:40:28,290
Yeah, he's

700
00:40:28,290 --> 00:40:31,200
claiming it's like security
purposes, but we can clearly the

701
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,600
clear reason come but NATO is
not the reason this is

702
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:38,220
not about NATO expansion. This
is about democratic expansion.

703
00:40:38,460 --> 00:40:42,090
Ukraine, bans religious
organizations. We are protecting

704
00:40:42,090 --> 00:40:45,510
democracy right now. Crane is
banning political parties.

705
00:40:45,900 --> 00:40:49,770
Democracy, Ukraine restricts
books and music. It's about

706
00:40:49,770 --> 00:40:52,110
democracy, Ukraine vote hold

707
00:40:52,140 --> 00:40:55,620
elections is about democracy,
not about NATO expansion. This

708
00:40:55,620 --> 00:40:59,520
war and reclaim is not about
NATO is not about NATO. But it's

709
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:00,630
not about needs. It has

710
00:41:00,630 --> 00:41:02,490
John C Dvorak: nothing to do
with NATO, nothing to do with

711
00:41:02,490 --> 00:41:06,900
NATO expansion. It's not about
NATO expansion to do with NATO.

712
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:07,950
It isn't really

713
00:41:07,979 --> 00:41:10,349
Unknown: about NATO. It's not
about needles, not about

714
00:41:10,350 --> 00:41:13,050
NATO enlargement fact, it has
nothing to do with NATO. It's

715
00:41:13,050 --> 00:41:14,640
not about NATO and croto is not

716
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,420
about NATO. NATO is just as a
fictious imaginary adversary for

717
00:41:18,420 --> 00:41:21,360
for for Mr. Putin and for
Russia, it was never about NATO.

718
00:41:21,569 --> 00:41:24,059
But it's been about it's been
about him trying to expand his

719
00:41:24,059 --> 00:41:24,929
sphere of influence.

720
00:41:25,259 --> 00:41:28,679
I mean, the two are not mutually
exclusive. Obviously, Russia has

721
00:41:28,679 --> 00:41:32,669
wished for a sphere of influence
over Ukraine. But if the West

722
00:41:32,669 --> 00:41:36,509
had not challenged Russian
interests so directly, I think

723
00:41:36,509 --> 00:41:37,829
that there was

724
00:41:37,890 --> 00:41:39,240
a chance to avoid this

725
00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:43,620
war. He wanted us to sign that
promise never to enlarge NATO.

726
00:41:44,130 --> 00:41:46,260
We rejected that. The reason why

727
00:41:46,260 --> 00:41:49,740
John C Dvorak: Putin invaded
Ukraine is because of his evil

728
00:41:49,770 --> 00:41:52,200
Adam Curry: evil. It's about
that Putin wants to rebuild

729
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:56,040
Soviet empire of evil like
President Reagan wouldn't been

730
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,520
sick, negotiate peace with a
madman but nobody

731
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,830
Unknown: negotiated with him.
People are comparing him to

732
00:42:01,830 --> 00:42:05,250
Hitler Hitler I remember
Hitler's use a Hitler we're back

733
00:42:05,250 --> 00:42:09,750
when the Nazis invaded Poland.
This is exactly the same. What

734
00:42:09,780 --> 00:42:13,680
Hitler was doing to choose. This
was the same Putin will not stop

735
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,840
by Putin is reminiscent of
Hitler. Hitler's

736
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,610
reminds me of Hitler. Hitler.

737
00:42:19,590 --> 00:42:23,190
is about a butcher trying to
kill people everywhere in the

738
00:42:23,190 --> 00:42:27,000
world. Just not Ukraine, Syria,
all over the place.

739
00:42:27,930 --> 00:42:31,800
Adam Curry: Is it becoming clear
people, these people are sick.

740
00:42:32,910 --> 00:42:33,750
Unknown: And you know that

741
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,060
Adam Curry: we've been watching
them for years, they've been in

742
00:42:36,060 --> 00:42:38,670
our lives in our living rooms,
and they're all part of the same

743
00:42:38,670 --> 00:42:39,210
cult.

744
00:42:41,580 --> 00:42:43,530
John C Dvorak: You know, you
could play one of those things

745
00:42:43,530 --> 00:42:47,190
that can go on for hours, and
it's still entertaining. The

746
00:42:47,910 --> 00:42:52,230
that was a good long one. Yeah,
Stoltenberg. This whole thing,

747
00:42:52,260 --> 00:42:56,100
this NATO thing was the obvious
point of it. And then to watch

748
00:42:56,100 --> 00:42:59,850
the media, the media is pathetic
in this country and worldwide,

749
00:42:59,850 --> 00:43:05,190
it's taken. It's been taken over
somehow, through the colleges

750
00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:08,520
and universities and through the
journalism schools. It's just

751
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,000
it's really something it's, it's
frightening. That's me.

752
00:43:12,029 --> 00:43:14,219
Adam Curry: That's why we need
to go to the podcast to get the

753
00:43:14,219 --> 00:43:19,469
truth. This is the defense and
aerospace podcast. People always

754
00:43:19,469 --> 00:43:23,039
talk too much on these podcasts.
Ooh, too much. This is Dr.

755
00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:26,549
Kathleen McKinnis of the Center
for Strategic and International

756
00:43:26,549 --> 00:43:27,989
Studies. Well, you

757
00:43:27,990 --> 00:43:28,770
John C Dvorak: know what that
is?

758
00:43:30,510 --> 00:43:32,610
Adam Curry: That's part of the
money making machine

759
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,620
Unknown: there's this huge
amount of reconstruction that

760
00:43:34,620 --> 00:43:38,490
has to be done, but starting to
get in on the contracts and that

761
00:43:38,490 --> 00:43:41,220
has to be done now. The
Ukrainians aren't waiting to the

762
00:43:41,220 --> 00:43:45,600
wars ending they're starting
now. And if us want to have a

763
00:43:45,750 --> 00:43:49,140
piece of that pie, they need to
stay on the ground

764
00:43:50,460 --> 00:43:54,000
Adam Curry: on a piece of that
pie people get going let's go

765
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,040
you got to start now they're
starting the rebuilding now

766
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,770
because you know for some reason
we don't have the same cell cell

767
00:43:58,770 --> 00:44:02,670
phone footage of people dying in
Ukraine, you know, Russians

768
00:44:02,670 --> 00:44:05,850
being killed with this with the
wind from Zelinsky now we see

769
00:44:05,850 --> 00:44:08,490
him speaking in front of
Parliament's everywhere raising

770
00:44:08,490 --> 00:44:11,520
money you know why because that
money is for you. For you

771
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:16,020
consultant for you. In military
industrial complex for you

772
00:44:16,020 --> 00:44:19,440
energy sector for you, is for
you. That's that's the people's

773
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,220
money. We printed it for you get
in on this Get on the ground

774
00:44:23,220 --> 00:44:23,610
floor,

775
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,490
Unknown: that pie, they need to
start getting on the ground.

776
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,360
There's all sorts of accusations
of corruption. Okay, got it. But

777
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,240
there's American companies out
there have figured it out.

778
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,430
Adam Curry: I gotta hear that
again. It's that beautiful it's

779
00:44:35,430 --> 00:44:38,010
a great great quote. Isn't that
beautiful? There's

780
00:44:38,010 --> 00:44:40,710
John C Dvorak: been a
accusations of of, of

781
00:44:40,740 --> 00:44:42,090
corruption. Okay, got it.

782
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,770
Unknown: Let's just play this.
There's all sorts of accusations

783
00:44:46,770 --> 00:44:50,130
of corruption. Okay, got it. But
there's American companies that

784
00:44:50,130 --> 00:44:54,570
are out there and have figured
it out and are and are raking in

785
00:44:54,570 --> 00:44:59,700
the dough are going to be able
to be part of the post war

786
00:44:59,700 --> 00:45:02,970
Ukraine UNIAN reconstruction
effort. And if we don't do that

787
00:45:02,970 --> 00:45:05,580
if we don't have American
companies going in there and

788
00:45:05,580 --> 00:45:07,800
doing that it's going to be
Chinese companies that are going

789
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,410
to be those contracts,

790
00:45:10,650 --> 00:45:12,630
Adam Curry: the contracts, the
contracts for whatever the

791
00:45:12,630 --> 00:45:16,650
Chinese are going to use our
money really lady. Well, where's

792
00:45:16,650 --> 00:45:18,810
that money coming from Hello,
Lindy Hop

793
00:45:18,810 --> 00:45:23,010
Unknown: when it comes to the
house. And the idea that we got

794
00:45:23,010 --> 00:45:25,830
to move swiftly. Right, right.
The White House Right, right,

795
00:45:25,830 --> 00:45:29,130
right Republican leadership that
they don't have enough funding

796
00:45:29,130 --> 00:45:32,250
for Ukraine to make it through
45 days and the authorities they

797
00:45:32,250 --> 00:45:35,820
have are insufficient. Well, so
how much time are you talking

798
00:45:35,820 --> 00:45:36,360
about needing?

799
00:45:36,390 --> 00:45:38,700
You know, I've been around a
while I'm worrying to pan Do you

800
00:45:38,700 --> 00:45:41,760
think I would leave Ukraine, I
don't believe that when bit this

801
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,580
same White House says we don't
need to have sixteens. We don't

802
00:45:44,580 --> 00:45:47,430
need high Mars, we don't need
tanks, I'm lost confidence in

803
00:45:47,430 --> 00:45:50,340
their valuation for what's going
on in Ukraine. We've got a bunch

804
00:45:50,340 --> 00:45:54,360
of allies, they can help for six
weeks, the Allies have spent

805
00:45:54,390 --> 00:45:56,670
more money in Ukraine than we
have. And when you hear

806
00:45:56,670 --> 00:45:57,810
otherwise, it's just not

807
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,170
Adam Curry: what's been burned.
When you hear when you hear

808
00:46:01,170 --> 00:46:04,830
otherwise is just not true. It's
just not true. The Allies have

809
00:46:04,830 --> 00:46:07,170
spent more. This is

810
00:46:07,290 --> 00:46:10,020
John C Dvorak: sad work. When
he's lady G. Right.

811
00:46:10,050 --> 00:46:13,860
Unknown: Gotcha allies, they can
help for six weeks, the Allies

812
00:46:13,860 --> 00:46:16,590
have spent more money in Ukraine
than we have. And when you hear

813
00:46:16,590 --> 00:46:18,090
otherwise, it's just not true.

814
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,570
Adam Curry: No. Oh, that may be
true. Because we have spent the

815
00:46:21,570 --> 00:46:25,350
money here on our on our war
machine. We haven't actually

816
00:46:25,350 --> 00:46:26,910
spent any money. Yeah, no,
there's

817
00:46:26,910 --> 00:46:30,630
John C Dvorak: so just a way he
Yeah. He puts it out there as

818
00:46:30,630 --> 00:46:33,750
though he does it in such a way
that is probably what he says is

819
00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:38,220
probably true, because he's
using it to defend a point and

820
00:46:38,220 --> 00:46:46,710
he's got a big mouth. Yeah. For
some reason, well, for us. It

821
00:46:46,710 --> 00:46:53,790
is, but but he that is a huge.
That's a that's an error in

822
00:46:53,790 --> 00:46:55,140
judgment to say that

823
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,690
Unknown: valuation for what's
going on in Ukraine, we've got a

824
00:46:57,690 --> 00:47:01,680
bunch of allies, they can help
for six weeks, the Allies have

825
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,290
spent more money in Ukraine than
we have. And when you hear

826
00:47:04,290 --> 00:47:07,530
otherwise, it's just not true.
It's been good burden sharing.

827
00:47:07,530 --> 00:47:10,260
But I'm not worried about the
next six weeks, I'm worried

828
00:47:10,260 --> 00:47:13,800
about next year, we will produce
in the United States Senate,

829
00:47:14,130 --> 00:47:18,510
Ukraine funding 60 or 70 billion
not 24. To get them through next

830
00:47:18,510 --> 00:47:22,110
year, we will have a border
security measure that is strong,

831
00:47:22,110 --> 00:47:25,380
and we will have additional
disaster aid cost the nation

832
00:47:25,380 --> 00:47:28,020
needs it. We're going to do
those three things. And I'm

833
00:47:28,020 --> 00:47:32,130
hoping our House colleagues will
react positively to it. I think

834
00:47:32,130 --> 00:47:35,130
Kevin is the right guy at the
right time. The only way he

835
00:47:35,130 --> 00:47:39,300
loses his job is if a handful of
Republicans join up with the

836
00:47:39,300 --> 00:47:43,140
Democratic Party to fire him.
That would be a disaster for the

837
00:47:43,290 --> 00:47:47,250
future of the Republican Party.
That's not gonna happen. Yeah,

838
00:47:47,250 --> 00:47:47,760
it has the

839
00:47:49,260 --> 00:47:51,690
Adam Curry: lady G future teller
overwhelmingly

840
00:47:52,530 --> 00:47:53,310
John C Dvorak: male that

841
00:47:53,460 --> 00:47:56,340
Unknown: kind of worked out for
the shutdown. He will help

842
00:47:56,340 --> 00:47:58,860
Ukraine but he's telling
everybody in the country

843
00:47:58,860 --> 00:48:02,220
including me, you better send
something over for the border

844
00:48:02,220 --> 00:48:05,580
for me to help Ukraine and he's
right to make that demand.

845
00:48:05,670 --> 00:48:07,680
Adam Curry: 60 billion All
right, thanks. That's all right.

846
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,140
So hey, getting on the ground
floor everybody. It's starting

847
00:48:10,140 --> 00:48:14,850
now. The money train is coming.
Whoo. Here we go. And I not sure

848
00:48:14,850 --> 00:48:21,510
that today's modern CIA was in
on this up in Israel, because we

849
00:48:21,510 --> 00:48:25,440
had Richard angle in Turkey,
Turkey a in eastern bull

850
00:48:25,770 --> 00:48:30,150
reporting, but he was positioned
and he was he was like reporting

851
00:48:30,180 --> 00:48:31,890
on Russia striking wrong

852
00:48:31,890 --> 00:48:33,330
John C Dvorak: place at the
wrong time. Yes,

853
00:48:33,330 --> 00:48:35,940
Unknown: this was a devastating
day in Ukraine where officials

854
00:48:35,940 --> 00:48:39,510
say a Russian missile killed
more than 50 people Richard

855
00:48:39,510 --> 00:48:41,100
angle with late details.

856
00:48:41,130 --> 00:48:45,870
Adam Curry: So what's his beat
now? This is beat Ukraine is his

857
00:48:45,870 --> 00:48:47,010
beat the Hamas.

858
00:48:47,670 --> 00:48:50,790
Unknown: A huge Russian missile
effectively wiped this tiny

859
00:48:50,790 --> 00:48:54,240
village off the map today,
flattening what was Main Street

860
00:48:54,270 --> 00:48:58,020
in Prusa. in eastern Ukraine.
There's hardly a trace of the

861
00:48:58,020 --> 00:49:01,380
grocery and coffee shops that
were here. Residents say there

862
00:49:01,380 --> 00:49:05,880
were only 330 people living in
the village. In an instant, more

863
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:10,350
than 50 were killed. Relatives
from the surrounding areas

864
00:49:10,350 --> 00:49:12,990
rushed over as soon as they
could search for loved ones.

865
00:49:13,110 --> 00:49:16,380
Valeria Harrison anko looking
for her mother says the

866
00:49:16,380 --> 00:49:19,140
villagers were holding a
memorial for a soldier when the

867
00:49:19,140 --> 00:49:19,740
missile hit.

868
00:49:20,580 --> 00:49:22,170
Adam Curry: We don't even have
to listen to the rest of this

869
00:49:22,170 --> 00:49:26,820
report. Ukraine is over. It's
over. That war is over to this

870
00:49:26,820 --> 00:49:31,260
John C Dvorak: thesis. Okay. Was
Was the CIA cut out of the

871
00:49:31,260 --> 00:49:37,890
operation in Israel where they
were they? Were they were they

872
00:49:37,890 --> 00:49:40,290
saying man? Hey, you know, maybe
this is such a good idea because

873
00:49:40,290 --> 00:49:42,780
what we want to do is blah,
blah, blah. And they said, Okay,

874
00:49:42,780 --> 00:49:45,420
well what you want to do is what
you want to do, by the way,

875
00:49:45,420 --> 00:49:48,750
we're going to have a meeting.
You're not invited. I mean, what

876
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:54,630
possibly happened CIA dia. I
don't think the DIA knows

877
00:49:54,630 --> 00:49:57,990
anything either. They were.
They're the ones like

878
00:49:58,020 --> 00:50:01,320
international FBI. They seem to
be all over the place

879
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,040
Adam Curry: as I said it's above
everybody's paygrade

880
00:50:05,730 --> 00:50:07,260
John C Dvorak: well it's
definitely above ours because we

881
00:50:07,260 --> 00:50:08,430
don't have a handle on that.

882
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,359
Adam Curry: I mean all I have is
Richard angle was Miss

883
00:50:12,359 --> 00:50:16,199
positioned in this wrong place.
So so that means the

884
00:50:16,199 --> 00:50:19,919
intelligence services that he
talks to which is CIA, as far as

885
00:50:19,919 --> 00:50:24,539
we know, was not informed or
they didn't inform him I mean,

886
00:50:24,539 --> 00:50:28,949
that's also possible but for
this to happen under most Mossad

887
00:50:28,949 --> 00:50:32,069
could detect a cat at this wall
I remember these

888
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,530
John C Dvorak: somebody actually
pointed out yeah, if there's a

889
00:50:34,530 --> 00:50:39,840
cat walking alongside this this
fence, the Mossad has got a

890
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:41,640
sights on it.

891
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:45,180
Adam Curry: So when the when the
Para motors came in, I'm like,

892
00:50:45,180 --> 00:50:46,740
no, no, no, yeah, and

893
00:50:46,740 --> 00:50:49,950
John C Dvorak: the bulldozers
yeah like no way was this

894
00:50:49,950 --> 00:50:52,290
government in other words a good
funniest site and no

895
00:50:52,290 --> 00:50:55,320
Adam Curry: one and no one knew
this no one was going into this

896
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:55,740
by

897
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,280
John C Dvorak: motorcycle after
motorcycle filing into the

898
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,910
southern part of the Israel
Yeah, it just didn't make any

899
00:51:02,910 --> 00:51:05,670
sense but I mean, they talked
they talked about it as a big

900
00:51:05,670 --> 00:51:09,900
deal and what a screw up and
then even Brandon comes out says

901
00:51:09,900 --> 00:51:13,170
really need some new new
leadership now what is

902
00:51:13,170 --> 00:51:15,990
leadership got to do with this
sort of boots on the ground kind

903
00:51:15,990 --> 00:51:19,410
of thing? Or maybe there is one
of those situations which you

904
00:51:19,410 --> 00:51:22,470
run into and these intelligence
agencies are always bitching

905
00:51:22,470 --> 00:51:25,710
about not having enough people
and they using too much

906
00:51:25,710 --> 00:51:29,850
technology Yeah, you know
there's we need more people

907
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,180
spies we need the old fashioned
spies are in there digging

908
00:51:33,180 --> 00:51:37,230
around wearing disguises you're
using too much you know there's

909
00:51:37,230 --> 00:51:43,020
too much of this this this What
is it electronics Yeah.

910
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,590
Adam Curry: Yes. And well that
that's the that's the message

911
00:51:46,590 --> 00:51:48,810
has gone out in Israel. That's
what I'm getting back because

912
00:51:48,810 --> 00:51:51,900
Oh, it's too much. They did too
much of that. And then they took

913
00:51:51,900 --> 00:51:54,960
their eye off the ball because
they relied on all the on all

914
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:59,760
the intelligence systems from
the electronics. I'm sorry, I'm

915
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,720
not buying any of it the the
pair motors and the way that was

916
00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:10,110
filmed that was filmed they had
someone so someone landed, and

917
00:52:10,110 --> 00:52:11,700
then they filmed the other guys.

918
00:52:12,390 --> 00:52:15,840
John C Dvorak: Three cameras
shoot. Yes, it was it was almost

919
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,870
Adam Curry: like the the
beheading videos, it was pretty

920
00:52:18,870 --> 00:52:24,240
good. I mean, it was a little
over produced. And so the

921
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:27,060
problem well, what's good about
that? I think it was pulled by

922
00:52:27,060 --> 00:52:30,960
the way, what's good about this
is this is so polarizing,

923
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:36,780
because you get you know, the
you get the Israeli, we get Jew

924
00:52:36,780 --> 00:52:40,050
Arab, then you get a lot of
people in the United States

925
00:52:40,050 --> 00:52:42,930
saying, you know, the Zionist
Jews, they own Congress, they

926
00:52:42,930 --> 00:52:47,010
run everything, you know, you
get this this so it, it creates

927
00:52:47,100 --> 00:52:51,720
dissension everywhere, but it's
totally meant to blame Biden

928
00:52:52,620 --> 00:52:57,270
whatever it is, it's the blame
goes squarely to Biden from the

929
00:52:57,270 --> 00:53:01,590
political right. They came out
right away. All of them are

930
00:53:01,590 --> 00:53:04,440
saying the same thing and
there's no evidence there's no

931
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:10,170
evidence that this 46 billion
which was in you know, oh, it's

932
00:53:10,170 --> 00:53:11,820
taxpayer money. No big

933
00:53:11,820 --> 00:53:12,510
John C Dvorak: toe Come on.

934
00:53:12,540 --> 00:53:14,700
Adam Curry: It's a great bit,
but let's just call it what it

935
00:53:14,700 --> 00:53:15,990
is bullcrap

936
00:53:16,919 --> 00:53:18,779
John C Dvorak: total bull crap.
It's good bit and

937
00:53:18,780 --> 00:53:21,810
Adam Curry: when it would have
been easier and more believable

938
00:53:21,810 --> 00:53:25,590
to say, well, you know that we
left at $1 billion worth of

939
00:53:25,590 --> 00:53:29,370
stuff. Okay. Forget the
helicopters and some other stuff

940
00:53:29,370 --> 00:53:33,360
with just you know, we left we
sabotaged but a lot of the arms

941
00:53:33,839 --> 00:53:36,239
John C Dvorak: Yeah, all the
arms the guns, the bullets and I

942
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:40,769
had I have a billion dollars
with armaments left in

943
00:53:40,769 --> 00:53:43,229
Afghanistan was left for a
reason

944
00:53:43,260 --> 00:53:45,240
Adam Curry: with Taliban. You
know, these these guys are

945
00:53:45,240 --> 00:53:52,200
reliable. And, you know, so on
the on my military backchannels

946
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:57,720
I'm getting here. What is it
here? Multiple sources Middle

947
00:53:57,720 --> 00:54:00,930
East, Lebanese and Palestinian
telegram channels report

948
00:54:00,930 --> 00:54:04,320
significant number of RPGs and
other hand arms used by Hamas in

949
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,410
the operation against Israel
came from Ukraine, or as they're

950
00:54:07,410 --> 00:54:13,290
saying, from the key of regime
of Jews Alinsky. So and that

951
00:54:13,290 --> 00:54:18,030
could all be disinformation. I'm
sure it is. Yeah. But that's a

952
00:54:18,030 --> 00:54:22,560
lot more likely, but it sounds
better. For you know, for the

953
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:27,180
show boaters in Washington going
Oh, yeah. Biden. Biden did that.

954
00:54:27,270 --> 00:54:30,750
But he doesn't care about Jews.
I mean, it can go on and on.

955
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,780
hates Jews. And he hates dogs.
That

956
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,360
John C Dvorak: Jews Asians.
Yeah, he got rid of his dog, are

957
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:37,110
they? Well, that was

958
00:54:38,310 --> 00:54:41,370
Adam Curry: that was gonna be
the up. They have video of him

959
00:54:41,370 --> 00:54:46,260
kicking the dog. He's fantastic.
He's coming out of the

960
00:54:46,260 --> 00:54:49,380
helicopter with the dog. And it
looked more like he was kind of

961
00:54:49,380 --> 00:54:49,830
wrangling

962
00:54:50,490 --> 00:54:52,500
John C Dvorak: was this dog too.
He's got a bunch of different

963
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,500
servers. This is the one that's
bitten. 12 people I have clipped

964
00:54:55,500 --> 00:54:55,950
President

965
00:54:55,950 --> 00:54:59,100
Unknown: Biden's dog commander
was spotted at the White House

966
00:54:59,100 --> 00:55:03,120
on Saturday. But after biting
someone last Monday night he no

967
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:07,230
longer lives here. CBS CBS News
has learned there have been more

968
00:55:07,230 --> 00:55:10,530
than 11 Biting incidents
involving the two year old

969
00:55:10,530 --> 00:55:14,310
German Shepherd and Secret
Service officers. At least two

970
00:55:14,340 --> 00:55:18,030
had to be taken to the hospital
for treatment. Following an

971
00:55:18,030 --> 00:55:21,630
incident last November when
Secret Service Officer emailed a

972
00:55:21,630 --> 00:55:26,310
colleague, my leg and arm still
hurts. He beat me twice and ran

973
00:55:26,310 --> 00:55:30,450
at me twice. A fellow Secret
Service Officer replied What a

974
00:55:30,450 --> 00:55:33,930
joke if it wasn't their dog, he
would already have been put

975
00:55:33,930 --> 00:55:38,100
down. Sources tell CBS commander
all sources White House

976
00:55:38,100 --> 00:55:41,040
residential staff and other
workers sources

977
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,280
Adam Curry: when it sources that
means Biden's in real trouble

978
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:48,420
sources are telling CBS certain
thing because of all people

979
00:55:48,420 --> 00:55:50,850
Unknown: all I get from the
President's brother is the

980
00:55:50,850 --> 00:55:54,150
second to be removed from the
White House. No, that's an

981
00:55:54,150 --> 00:55:56,220
Adam Curry: interesting detail.
It's from his brother, let's

982
00:55:56,220 --> 00:55:59,940
bring his brother in. His
brother his brother's trouble

983
00:55:59,970 --> 00:56:02,490
Unknown: dog, a gift from the
President's brother is the

984
00:56:02,490 --> 00:56:06,390
second to be removed from the
White House. Major bit two

985
00:56:06,390 --> 00:56:09,930
people in one month back in
2021. So he's a

986
00:56:09,930 --> 00:56:13,500
sweet dog. 85% of the people
there love him. He just only has

987
00:56:14,310 --> 00:56:18,780
Adam Curry: 85% of the people He
doesn't bite wag his tail.

988
00:56:19,470 --> 00:56:23,250
Unknown: Dog Trainer Robert bra
says canine behavior depends on

989
00:56:23,250 --> 00:56:28,050
several factors like genetics,
socialization and training. When

990
00:56:28,050 --> 00:56:28,140
you're

991
00:56:28,140 --> 00:56:29,790
Adam Curry: dealing with the
President's dog, nobody's going

992
00:56:29,790 --> 00:56:32,220
to want to correct the
President's dog. And sadly, when

993
00:56:32,220 --> 00:56:34,800
you're in a position of power,
people are going to tell you

994
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,470
what you want to hear and not
tell you the truth. The truth is

995
00:56:37,530 --> 00:56:41,670
this dog needs structure. Yeah,
didn't need structure. Yeah, you

996
00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:46,770
can train any dog. But yeah, so
you know, but him kicking the

997
00:56:46,770 --> 00:56:49,830
dog was on Zero Hedge. So
they're trying to roll that

998
00:56:49,830 --> 00:56:53,310
because you know, I think you
you get the meme out there that

999
00:56:53,310 --> 00:56:57,240
the President kicks his dog.
He'll be impeached faster than

1000
00:56:57,240 --> 00:56:57,840
you can say.

1001
00:56:58,110 --> 00:57:00,210
John C Dvorak: That's bad that
bad look.

1002
00:57:01,290 --> 00:57:04,260
Adam Curry: So it still could be
in play but right now it's like

1003
00:57:04,260 --> 00:57:09,870
he is responsible for possibly
starting World War Three. That's

1004
00:57:09,870 --> 00:57:13,920
that's what's this is what's
happening. These these sick,

1005
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,610
sick people. They just love
doing this stuff. They love

1006
00:57:17,610 --> 00:57:21,120
special dates. Man, let's do it
on the anniversary of the

1007
00:57:21,630 --> 00:57:26,160
numerology. Yeah, let's do let's
do I'm sure 10 Seven is special.

1008
00:57:26,190 --> 00:57:28,230
I'm sure there's some reason 33

1009
00:57:28,770 --> 00:57:29,790
Is that a 33?

1010
00:57:30,390 --> 00:57:31,620
John C Dvorak: I don't know.
There must be.

1011
00:57:32,130 --> 00:57:35,010
Adam Curry: There's got to be a
love that 33 in there. So we'll

1012
00:57:35,010 --> 00:57:45,150
find it. We'll find it. Yeah. So
yeah, this is a very, very sad

1013
00:57:45,150 --> 00:57:48,150
what's going on, but it is just
a completion of something

1014
00:57:48,150 --> 00:57:51,330
they've been doing for a long
time. And they don't want any,

1015
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:57,330
any deal between Saudi Arabia
and Israel. Nobody wants that.

1016
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,660
They want it all. They want to
run it all. And yeah, Iran has

1017
00:58:00,660 --> 00:58:04,470
got their oil cranked up again.
That'd be cool. We can go get

1018
00:58:04,470 --> 00:58:10,410
some of that. Yeah, if I were a
Mullah, I'd be worried.

1019
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:16,320
John C Dvorak: What's screwy
just as an aside is that this

1020
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,950
began and the price of oil
didn't move straight and it's

1021
00:58:19,950 --> 00:58:25,290
already already moved down 82 As
far as I know, it hasn't moved

1022
00:58:25,290 --> 00:58:28,680
anywhere since and it's like if
that's right and you somebody

1023
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,470
might have their eye on that
Iranian oil

1024
00:58:31,500 --> 00:58:36,090
Adam Curry: oh wait they want
the price down before it can go

1025
00:58:36,090 --> 00:58:38,190
up? Is this a buying moment?
Maybe

1026
00:58:38,790 --> 00:58:41,850
John C Dvorak: you don't Well
no, there's take it over I'm not

1027
00:58:41,850 --> 00:58:43,950
talking about buying Iranian oil

1028
00:58:43,980 --> 00:58:46,590
Adam Curry: No no no I buying
moment for the price of oil like

1029
00:58:46,590 --> 00:58:50,010
a stock play like a market for
the price

1030
00:58:50,010 --> 00:58:52,740
John C Dvorak: of oil. Really?
To me. This is still too high.

1031
00:58:52,740 --> 00:58:54,450
It should be in the 60s. But

1032
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,460
Adam Curry: is it good oil? Is
that some split? What kind of

1033
00:58:56,610 --> 00:58:58,980
what kind of crude do they have?
They have the good sweet stuff.

1034
00:58:58,980 --> 00:59:00,720
What do they what do they have
stuff we go with that?

1035
00:59:00,750 --> 00:59:03,660
John C Dvorak: Well, there's
there's two prices that float

1036
00:59:03,660 --> 00:59:09,060
around one is super good, high
quality stuff is Brent. And that

1037
00:59:09,060 --> 00:59:12,720
is we as opposed to West Texas.
WT

1038
00:59:12,900 --> 00:59:15,210
Adam Curry: right. What is What
does Iran have? Do they have the

1039
00:59:15,210 --> 00:59:15,810
good stuff?

1040
00:59:16,230 --> 00:59:17,970
John C Dvorak: I don't know.
It's a good question. I have no

1041
00:59:17,970 --> 00:59:22,830
idea. I should know. Yeah, but I
don't will disappoint. Look it

1042
00:59:22,830 --> 00:59:23,070
up.

1043
00:59:23,190 --> 00:59:28,500
Adam Curry: So here in Texas. Of
course. We had the text some of

1044
00:59:28,500 --> 00:59:31,620
the ladies on the text like
Hamas is coming across the

1045
00:59:31,620 --> 00:59:35,070
border. No, no, no.

1046
00:59:35,550 --> 00:59:37,320
John C Dvorak: But Texas. Yes.

1047
00:59:38,610 --> 00:59:41,550
Adam Curry: People get spun up
like crazy. And this was wall to

1048
00:59:41,550 --> 00:59:45,480
wall. I mean, I was monitoring
all the channels. And it was

1049
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:50,400
just like Kerr flip like boom
all you had and BBC didn't BBC

1050
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:55,560
usually at night. They switched
to like Africa news. You know,

1051
00:59:56,190 --> 01:00:00,630
that these long form things of
me know something by Africa a

1052
01:00:00,630 --> 01:00:04,740
guy you get credibly boring very
boring or rice farmers somewhere

1053
01:00:05,010 --> 01:00:09,090
gets boring now they were there
wall to wall and you know when

1054
01:00:09,090 --> 01:00:12,390
you have a WOLF BLITZER on the
SAT working on a Saturday is

1055
01:00:12,390 --> 01:00:16,290
real that that then something's
going on and then you have

1056
01:00:16,290 --> 01:00:21,300
Brennan coming up, come on. So
but in Texas, the guys the guys

1057
01:00:21,300 --> 01:00:25,740
are like, hey, now I'm real
sorry what happened there but

1058
01:00:25,740 --> 01:00:28,890
170 miles from here I got stuff
that's coming across the border

1059
01:00:28,890 --> 01:00:32,970
that I don't want in my state.
So this is our transition.

1060
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,970
Unknown: Tonight, President
Biden who rallied against Donald

1061
01:00:35,970 --> 01:00:39,210
Trump's border wall, clearing
the way for more wall to be

1062
01:00:39,210 --> 01:00:42,570
built, facing a surge of
migrants and a humanitarian

1063
01:00:42,570 --> 01:00:47,130
crisis, sending 10s of 1000s
across the US border, his own

1064
01:00:47,130 --> 01:00:50,460
homeland security director
saying today, there is presently

1065
01:00:50,460 --> 01:00:54,060
an acute and immediate need to
construct physical barriers and

1066
01:00:54,060 --> 01:00:57,420
roads in the vicinity of the
border in order to prevent

1067
01:00:57,450 --> 01:01:01,170
unlawful entries into the United
States. President Biden

1068
01:01:01,170 --> 01:01:04,470
defending the decision to use
millions of dollars of Trump era

1069
01:01:04,470 --> 01:01:08,640
funds to build more wall along
the US Mexico border, saying he

1070
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:09,930
had no choice.

1071
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,590
You pledged not to build another
border wall what changed?

1072
01:01:15,450 --> 01:01:18,480
The President himself today
admitting he does not believe a

1073
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:19,590
wall is effective.

1074
01:01:19,650 --> 01:01:22,560
I tried to get them to
reappropriate three track that

1075
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,800
money. They didn't they
wouldn't. In the meantime,

1076
01:01:25,950 --> 01:01:28,410
there's nothing under the law
other than they have to use the

1077
01:01:28,410 --> 01:01:32,790
money for what it is. Do you
believe the border wall works?

1078
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:34,770
No. Are Selena

1079
01:01:34,770 --> 01:01:36,330
Wang pressing the White House.

1080
01:01:36,359 --> 01:01:39,179
But why now for instance, these
funds have been available since

1081
01:01:39,179 --> 01:01:44,819
Biden took office why we have to
comply by law to get this done.

1082
01:01:44,849 --> 01:01:46,649
And that's what you're seeing
happening right now.

1083
01:01:46,710 --> 01:01:49,620
But the reality this
administration faces is stark

1084
01:01:49,650 --> 01:01:54,120
10s of 1000s crossing the border
more than 2.2 million since last

1085
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,120
October. And the political
pressure is mounting with

1086
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,630
Congress unable to find a
solution. The president today

1087
01:02:00,630 --> 01:02:04,050
criticized by Democrats for
breaking his campaign promise

1088
01:02:04,170 --> 01:02:08,220
there will not be another foot
of wall destructive in my

1089
01:02:08,250 --> 01:02:11,910
administration. Now there will
be up to 20 miles of new wall

1090
01:02:11,910 --> 01:02:16,710
here in south Texas, some
sections over 18 feet high using

1091
01:02:16,710 --> 01:02:20,550
funds that were appropriated in
2019. During the Trump

1092
01:02:20,550 --> 01:02:25,200
administration, specifically for
the wall, Trump building just 52

1093
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:30,030
miles of new border wall while
replacing already existing 450

1094
01:02:30,030 --> 01:02:31,590
miles of that wall

1095
01:02:31,620 --> 01:02:36,750
in 2016. You remember this? I
ran on the border wall that was

1096
01:02:36,750 --> 01:02:37,530
a big deal.

1097
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,500
With the surge of migrants
showing no signs of slowing down

1098
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:44,160
overwhelming cities coast to
coast. The administration today

1099
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,310
announcing they will resume
direct deportations of

1100
01:02:47,310 --> 01:02:51,510
Venezuelan migrants just weeks
after expanding protected status

1101
01:02:51,540 --> 01:02:56,340
for 1000s. And plans to send up
to $10 million to Panama to help

1102
01:02:56,340 --> 01:02:59,520
them deport migrants back to
their home countries.

1103
01:03:00,150 --> 01:03:02,520
Adam Curry: And so we have
another act in the little play

1104
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:10,320
of the border. Oh, yes. So the
alternative media that we that

1105
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:14,850
like to tout themselves as so
good. They're so full of crap.

1106
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,030
John C Dvorak: That I want to
mention something about Biden's

1107
01:03:18,030 --> 01:03:21,570
bullcrap excuse, so I had to do
it because of the law, they have

1108
01:03:21,570 --> 01:03:25,590
to now break something like 24
to 26 laws to build those walls,

1109
01:03:25,590 --> 01:03:27,660
because there's all these
environmental laws that were put

1110
01:03:27,660 --> 01:03:31,890
in place that have to be
violated or, you know, ignored

1111
01:03:31,890 --> 01:03:35,160
or looked the other way. So
that's nonsense. He didn't have

1112
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:39,090
to build an anything if you
didn't want to these for some

1113
01:03:39,090 --> 01:03:42,000
reason. They're building the I
think they've lost control of

1114
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,580
the well, they lost control the
br I know they wanted an open

1115
01:03:44,580 --> 01:03:46,740
border, they got their open
border now it's like a little

1116
01:03:46,740 --> 01:03:49,320
bit more than they can deal
with. I disagree.

1117
01:03:49,980 --> 01:03:53,880
Adam Curry: What's happened here
is they heard our deconstruction

1118
01:03:54,090 --> 01:03:57,690
of what's really going on with
the NGOs like crap. Karina

1119
01:03:57,690 --> 01:04:01,920
Racker. onto it. We have to we
have to distract everybody. We

1120
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:05,880
have to come on everybody. Let's
put on a little show. What can

1121
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,670
we do? How can we focus
everybody away from the NGOs

1122
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:11,760
bring in to see as a candidate,

1123
01:04:12,270 --> 01:04:15,210
Unknown: President Biden say,
there will not be another foot

1124
01:04:15,210 --> 01:04:20,010
of wall constructed that except
for what was appropriated in

1125
01:04:20,010 --> 01:04:24,270
2019. He said, There will not be
another foot wall constructed in

1126
01:04:24,270 --> 01:04:26,970
my administration. So something
changed. What

1127
01:04:27,030 --> 01:04:30,450
do you want us to break the law?
Is that what you want? You want

1128
01:04:30,450 --> 01:04:36,750
us to not comply with the law?
I'm not. With the law, you want

1129
01:04:36,750 --> 01:04:38,520
us to not be in administrations
that follow

1130
01:04:39,150 --> 01:04:43,620
all the time, the student loans,
the student loan forgiveness

1131
01:04:43,620 --> 01:04:46,800
program, you went to court to
fight for that, if this is such

1132
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:50,010
a problem building 20 miles of
wall, why not just go to court,

1133
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,620
we went to Congress, the
Congress appropriates the

1134
01:04:52,620 --> 01:04:56,790
funding, why Congress, Congress
appropriates the funding. We

1135
01:04:56,790 --> 01:05:00,090
asked them to not use that
funding for that particular The

1136
01:05:00,090 --> 01:05:03,990
purpose, they denied it. And now
we're complying with the law

1137
01:05:04,020 --> 01:05:07,710
if you have to build a border
wall, but you don't think that

1138
01:05:07,710 --> 01:05:09,930
it's going to work, then once
it's done, are you just going to

1139
01:05:09,930 --> 01:05:10,620
tear it down?

1140
01:05:10,980 --> 01:05:13,290
I'm not getting into
hypotheticals. I'm just telling

1141
01:05:13,290 --> 01:05:17,010
you what I can tell you from
here. The facts are that DHS is

1142
01:05:17,010 --> 01:05:20,220
complying with the law. This is
from fiscal year this was under

1143
01:05:20,220 --> 01:05:24,480
fiscal year 2019. Under
Republican leadership, and DHS

1144
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,270
is required to do this. The
President asked multiple times

1145
01:05:27,450 --> 01:05:30,330
of Congress to reappropriate
they did not and we're not

1146
01:05:30,330 --> 01:05:32,160
complying by the law. Thanks,
everybody. I'm

1147
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,560
Adam Curry: telling you, this is
a little show to give

1148
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,260
John C Dvorak: us a total show.
It's gotten. It's gotten to the

1149
01:05:37,260 --> 01:05:38,670
point where it's ludicrous

1150
01:05:38,700 --> 01:05:41,610
Adam Curry: and this little show
is for the alternative media. So

1151
01:05:41,610 --> 01:05:49,020
Dan bond, Gino and Tim Poole I
can't say that with certainty

1152
01:05:49,020 --> 01:05:54,300
would probably Megyn Kelly,
maybe went to Greek Glenn Beck,

1153
01:05:54,390 --> 01:06:00,450
you know, Ben Shapiro, and he
probably is. I mean, here's the

1154
01:06:00,510 --> 01:06:04,140
this are alternative media that
everyone touted as, oh, this is

1155
01:06:04,140 --> 01:06:09,360
great. It's independent. They're
stupid. They aren't they get

1156
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,960
distracted by shiny little
things that is clickbait that

1157
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,000
will get them more advertising
money.

1158
01:06:15,029 --> 01:06:18,089
John C Dvorak: It's clickbait.
It's advertising. It's not

1159
01:06:18,089 --> 01:06:18,959
stupidity.

1160
01:06:19,140 --> 01:06:21,450
Unknown: That's such a good
point, Dan, and we talk about

1161
01:06:21,450 --> 01:06:24,930
this idea of psychogeography is
right, the idea that anyone

1162
01:06:24,930 --> 01:06:28,590
alive today is entangled in this
complex web of semiotics based

1163
01:06:28,590 --> 01:06:32,190
on their geopolitical bioethical
socio economic ethno linguistic

1164
01:06:32,190 --> 01:06:32,910
positionality.

1165
01:06:32,940 --> 01:06:36,210
Adam Curry: This is this is the
kind of fanatic This is the kind

1166
01:06:36,210 --> 01:06:39,660
of alternative media that people
are all clickbaity about

1167
01:06:39,660 --> 01:06:41,760
Unknown: it. And so it becomes
necessary

1168
01:06:41,819 --> 01:06:44,009
John C Dvorak: as it goes on
your college essay, the

1169
01:06:44,009 --> 01:06:46,649
beginning of a junior college
essay by somebody trying to show

1170
01:06:46,649 --> 01:06:47,729
off to their teacher.

1171
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,970
Adam Curry: It's kind of my
point. It's an example of what

1172
01:06:50,970 --> 01:06:52,590
people are actually listening
to,

1173
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:56,070
Unknown: and encode our own meta
ontologies because at the end of

1174
01:06:56,070 --> 01:07:02,760
the day, meta on geology, even
perceptual paradigms, rather

1175
01:07:02,790 --> 01:07:06,780
paradigm, tension between a
space a heuristic bubble, if you

1176
01:07:06,780 --> 01:07:07,620
will, this is

1177
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,900
John C Dvorak: a real estate
bubble. Where did you get this?

1178
01:07:09,900 --> 01:07:13,110
This is a fake. Of course, this
is somebody who put together a

1179
01:07:13,110 --> 01:07:14,550
bunch of gobbledygook Yes.

1180
01:07:14,580 --> 01:07:19,290
Adam Curry: Yes. Yes. Yes, yes.
A fake the whole it's it's a

1181
01:07:19,290 --> 01:07:23,850
persiflage. It's to show people
what they're listening to

1182
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:26,730
Unknown: resonant hermeneutics
can unfold in a post modern

1183
01:07:26,730 --> 01:07:27,330
Okay, now

1184
01:07:27,330 --> 01:07:29,550
John C Dvorak: I get it, I get
it. I should have picked it up

1185
01:07:29,550 --> 01:07:32,610
sooner. I picked up the
complaining sooner but now that

1186
01:07:32,610 --> 01:07:33,480
I'm hearing all

1187
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:36,450
Adam Curry: of it. So let's talk
about what's really happening I

1188
01:07:36,450 --> 01:07:36,600
get

1189
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,940
John C Dvorak: it right that
kind of stuff. Now of course you

1190
01:07:38,940 --> 01:07:39,210
can.

1191
01:07:40,170 --> 01:07:45,480
Adam Curry: Salvation Army is.
Let's see here is a boots on the

1192
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,790
ground from one of our producers
while I was at the Roosevelt

1193
01:07:47,790 --> 01:07:50,460
Hotel migrant process. Now this
is not from us. But this is a

1194
01:07:50,460 --> 01:07:53,670
boots on the ground, not from
one of our people. Roosevelt

1195
01:07:53,670 --> 01:07:56,040
Hotel in New York migrant
processing center spoke to my

1196
01:07:56,070 --> 01:07:59,760
migrants who just arrived in New
York City by plane and they had

1197
01:07:59,790 --> 01:08:03,420
a piece of paper from the
Salvation Army. Because the

1198
01:08:03,420 --> 01:08:06,990
Salvation Army's putting people
on the planes at the end that's

1199
01:08:06,990 --> 01:08:11,010
a nice little Salvation Army and
it says Dear TSA employee, the

1200
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:13,920
individual standing in front of
you have recently been

1201
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,680
discharged from a US immigration
detention facility they don't

1202
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:19,500
speak English please give them
passes. Then I've paperwork

1203
01:08:19,530 --> 01:08:24,420
please let them on Salvation
Army doing the most good. So the

1204
01:08:24,420 --> 01:08:29,160
Salvation Army is putting people
on a plane. Go ahead, but please

1205
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:32,490
do your podcast about the while.
Peter Doocy so good man, he

1206
01:08:32,490 --> 01:08:35,160
really put that Korean jam
cameras point her career is

1207
01:08:35,190 --> 01:08:36,720
over. I mean, I saw it you sound

1208
01:08:37,649 --> 01:08:40,049
John C Dvorak: like been in
business. She's been there too

1209
01:08:40,049 --> 01:08:41,039
long already.

1210
01:08:41,130 --> 01:08:44,250
Adam Curry: And how are they
getting here? Oh, they're on the

1211
01:08:44,250 --> 01:08:48,720
beach train. It's really
horrible. Oh my goodness. They

1212
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:52,830
have they traveled for weeks the
coyotes the rape tree, a grim

1213
01:08:52,830 --> 01:08:55,740
Unknown: scene in southern
Mexico as rescue teams and

1214
01:08:55,740 --> 01:08:59,490
forensic staff recover the
bodies of migrants killed after

1215
01:08:59,490 --> 01:09:02,010
their bus tipped over along the
curve on the road.

1216
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:09,000
Adam Curry: Now this bus, luxury
touring bus from Oaxaca tours

1217
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:13,050
Mexico America and it's like one
of those you know like a like a

1218
01:09:13,050 --> 01:09:13,440
band

1219
01:09:13,590 --> 01:09:17,040
John C Dvorak: bring luxury.
really fancy but vans or buses.

1220
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:20,640
It wasn't two story but a film
but you're up on a second kind

1221
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:21,180
of a second

1222
01:09:21,689 --> 01:09:24,209
Adam Curry: row. Yeah, and all
everything is in the in the

1223
01:09:24,209 --> 01:09:26,639
whole everything that you know
the later of course you have to

1224
01:09:26,639 --> 01:09:29,309
empty your suitcase putting the
plastic bag to cross the Rio

1225
01:09:29,309 --> 01:09:30,569
Grande for the little show.

1226
01:09:30,629 --> 01:09:33,239
Unknown: It happened along the
highway in the central state of

1227
01:09:33,239 --> 01:09:33,779
Puebla.

1228
01:09:35,250 --> 01:09:38,160
We are members of the medical
service. We were notified at

1229
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,190
around 440 In the morning about
the accident. 10 minutes later

1230
01:09:41,190 --> 01:09:44,430
the first ambulance arrived.
There were many injured over 25.

1231
01:09:44,609 --> 01:09:48,629
State police say a total of 55
migrants were on board, most of

1232
01:09:48,629 --> 01:09:52,259
them from Venezuela and others
from Haiti. Among those killed

1233
01:09:52,349 --> 01:09:54,029
two women and three children

1234
01:09:54,059 --> 01:09:57,329
Adam Curry: does I like how they
positioned it two to three to

1235
01:09:57,329 --> 01:10:01,259
two women, three children and
we're 50 on board Are there 25

1236
01:10:01,259 --> 01:10:03,959
that were killed, so it's pretty
much all young workers

1237
01:10:04,140 --> 01:10:06,060
Unknown: were injured and are
being treated at nearby

1238
01:10:06,060 --> 01:10:09,630
hospitals. The crash is the
latest in a series of migrant

1239
01:10:09,630 --> 01:10:14,130
deaths in Mexico. Last week, 10
Cuban migrants died and 17 more

1240
01:10:14,130 --> 01:10:16,890
were injured when their freight
truck crashed in the neighboring

1241
01:10:16,890 --> 01:10:20,310
state of Chiapas. No Videoder
with Guatemala, the dangers of

1242
01:10:20,310 --> 01:10:23,040
the journey are not slowing the
growing number of migrants

1243
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:23,610
traveling

1244
01:10:23,610 --> 01:10:25,320
Adam Curry: then they just go on
and of course, you know, they're

1245
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:29,190
going to show the beasts train.
This is Southern Mexico. So

1246
01:10:29,190 --> 01:10:31,920
they're coming into southern
Mexico. They're not walking

1247
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:36,720
across Mexico, they're going by
the Luxury Bus paid for by your

1248
01:10:36,750 --> 01:10:41,130
NGOs. People were looking stuff
let's get

1249
01:10:41,130 --> 01:10:43,740
John C Dvorak: back to the rich
paid for it. Who's really behind

1250
01:10:43,740 --> 01:10:45,750
this the State Department your
tax,

1251
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:49,890
Adam Curry: tax money, people
were looking up? Like the what

1252
01:10:49,890 --> 01:10:55,350
was it was on no agenda social.
The N for it wasn't like one of

1253
01:10:55,350 --> 01:10:59,340
those big ones. And it was a
half a billion dollars last

1254
01:10:59,340 --> 01:11:02,190
year. State Department USA ID
money half

1255
01:11:02,190 --> 01:11:07,200
$1,000,000,000.04 190 $7
million. That's just one of

1256
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:12,270
these outfits. And Oh, thank
goodness. There's good news.

1257
01:11:12,810 --> 01:11:15,960
Because Amy Pope, former State
Department official under

1258
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:19,800
Hillary Clinton, by the way, she
is now really irking me she

1259
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:23,010
talks out of the side of her
mouth. She actually I think she

1260
01:11:23,010 --> 01:11:27,750
has the same doctor that does
fillers that Hillary has. And

1261
01:11:28,650 --> 01:11:29,250
they had who

1262
01:11:29,250 --> 01:11:31,500
John C Dvorak: else talks to
this a mil you think is Yeah,

1263
01:11:31,530 --> 01:11:35,130
London breed the mayor of San
Francisco talks out of the side

1264
01:11:35,130 --> 01:11:35,790
of her mouth.

1265
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:40,410
Adam Curry: right side or left
side? That wish I believe breed

1266
01:11:40,410 --> 01:11:43,020
talks out of the right side.
This is right side right side

1267
01:11:43,020 --> 01:11:45,090
mouth, you know, the lip goes up
a little bit.

1268
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:46,950
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Are you
gonna talk like this? Yeah.

1269
01:11:47,550 --> 01:11:50,340
Adam Curry: Yeah. And eventually
has kind of that puffy, puffy

1270
01:11:50,340 --> 01:11:55,500
Hillary type face. You know,
clearly the same. She She

1271
01:11:55,500 --> 01:11:57,840
probably went to her hairdresser
and said, I want the same thing

1272
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,750
paradise for Hillary. She got
kind of the second rate one.

1273
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:04,470
It's not exactly good. So she is
the

1274
01:12:04,500 --> 01:12:06,690
John C Dvorak: Hillary we've
only seen Hillary with the hair

1275
01:12:06,690 --> 01:12:08,400
done right once.

1276
01:12:08,730 --> 01:12:11,190
Adam Curry: Yeah. Yeah. And it
was really pretty dynamite. Then

1277
01:12:11,220 --> 01:12:16,290
it was dynamite. So Amy Pope,
former Clinton nista, former

1278
01:12:16,290 --> 01:12:21,420
State Department official, now
director, General Director

1279
01:12:21,420 --> 01:12:26,010
General of the International
Office of migration, a UN

1280
01:12:26,010 --> 01:12:31,080
organization with tons of money,
they had a big shindig, they had

1281
01:12:31,620 --> 01:12:36,930
this I'm still clipping from it.
I can't decide if I want to do

1282
01:12:36,930 --> 01:12:39,750
it a package or not, but they
had a full three day

1283
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:43,830
John C Dvorak: but three day
shindig a three

1284
01:12:43,830 --> 01:12:47,160
Adam Curry: day shindig on a
second exactly what it was

1285
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:47,610
called

1286
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:49,620
John C Dvorak: the money coming
out of your ears.

1287
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:58,590
Adam Curry: Oh, it was called
the international dialogue on

1288
01:12:58,590 --> 01:13:05,130
migration. Think about tomorrow
acts today the future of human

1289
01:13:05,130 --> 01:13:09,450
mobility. And then was great
because they had they had all

1290
01:13:09,450 --> 01:13:13,710
kinds of stuff going on. And
they and the part that's

1291
01:13:13,710 --> 01:13:17,490
interesting is because they put
up a the full live video when

1292
01:13:17,490 --> 01:13:20,010
they're testing and setting
everything up and you know,

1293
01:13:20,010 --> 01:13:23,880
getting the PowerPoint slides.
And then the moderator this

1294
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:27,510
young woman she comes on and and
she says I'm doing now here what

1295
01:13:27,510 --> 01:13:30,180
we call filling time because
we're waiting for everybody to

1296
01:13:30,180 --> 01:13:34,080
come back from coffee. And you
know if you're a consultant you

1297
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,570
really want to get in here now
because this and she literally

1298
01:13:36,570 --> 01:13:40,230
is saying this stuff like you
consultants that you know your

1299
01:13:40,230 --> 01:13:45,090
money, your money train is about
to leave all aboard woo woo. So

1300
01:13:45,090 --> 01:13:47,760
they haven't quite cut it all up
yet. And I'm waiting to see what

1301
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,880
they put on their YouTube
channel. But Amy Pope, Director

1302
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:55,710
General of IOM, the Honorable
Amy Pope, she did do a little

1303
01:13:55,710 --> 01:13:59,220
quick hit a quick hit for the
Instagram and Twitter. We just

1304
01:13:59,220 --> 01:13:59,610
finished

1305
01:13:59,610 --> 01:14:02,100
Unknown: an incredible day and a
half for the international

1306
01:14:02,100 --> 01:14:05,820
dialogue for migration. We had
singing, we had dancing, we had

1307
01:14:05,820 --> 01:14:08,370
artwork, and we had
extraordinarily thoughtful

1308
01:14:08,370 --> 01:14:09,240
conversation.

1309
01:14:11,250 --> 01:14:14,070
Adam Curry: We had singing and I
have some examples of that. Oh

1310
01:14:14,070 --> 01:14:14,970
my god

1311
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:18,330
John C Dvorak: singing and
dance. Social guy

1312
01:14:19,500 --> 01:14:23,160
Adam Curry: singing and dancing
and artwork. And there were

1313
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:25,770
black people doing creative
stuff. That's all that's missing

1314
01:14:25,770 --> 01:14:28,920
from what she's saying Here you
horrible racist piece of crap

1315
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:29,100
and

1316
01:14:29,100 --> 01:14:32,070
Unknown: dancing. We had artwork
and we had extraordinarily

1317
01:14:32,070 --> 01:14:35,760
thoughtful conversation about
the impact of climate change on

1318
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:40,290
human mobility. Now as we move
toward cop 28, it is critical

1319
01:14:40,290 --> 01:14:44,730
that we put all of these ideas
into action, action that enables

1320
01:14:44,730 --> 01:14:48,150
people who are impacted by
climate change, to find better

1321
01:14:48,150 --> 01:14:51,780
solutions, whether they're
already on the move, whether

1322
01:14:51,810 --> 01:14:55,680
they are looking for options to
stay at home, or whether they

1323
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:59,850
need new opportunities because
climate change will cause their

1324
01:14:59,850 --> 01:15:04,500
own and options to disappear.
The time for action is now an

1325
01:15:04,500 --> 01:15:06,510
IOM can't wait to be part of it

1326
01:15:06,540 --> 01:15:11,040
Adam Curry: can't wait to be
part of it. So this is the plan.

1327
01:15:11,490 --> 01:15:15,480
Everything's climate, hey, we
can't not let these people in

1328
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:20,880
this climate change their
climate migrants, and they need

1329
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:26,610
climate justice. And we do that
with climate finance. He yesI

1330
01:15:27,780 --> 01:15:34,140
that's how it works. Climate and
this,

1331
01:15:34,260 --> 01:15:36,090
John C Dvorak: and this is,
again, too many balls in the air

1332
01:15:36,090 --> 01:15:36,750
these people,

1333
01:15:36,930 --> 01:15:39,720
Adam Curry: I think, but the
climate thing, I think they can

1334
01:15:39,750 --> 01:15:42,690
they can leverage that, you
know, and this is, this is a

1335
01:15:42,690 --> 01:15:45,030
good way to do it, because
there's billions it's billions

1336
01:15:45,030 --> 01:15:48,660
flowing from it. You know, we're
not, we're not we're anything,

1337
01:15:48,660 --> 01:15:50,640
we're heating up our own
countries by bringing in more

1338
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:54,240
bodies. I mean, just think of
that logic,

1339
01:15:54,570 --> 01:15:56,310
John C Dvorak: or somebody
should put that together as a

1340
01:15:56,310 --> 01:15:56,880
formula.

1341
01:15:57,930 --> 01:16:01,230
Adam Curry: So Chicago is now
people in Chicago are flipping

1342
01:16:01,230 --> 01:16:07,590
out. They are bringing in 25
buses a day. 20

1343
01:16:07,650 --> 01:16:10,140
John C Dvorak: Because the
Chicago blacks that are really

1344
01:16:10,140 --> 01:16:10,680
Yes,

1345
01:16:11,070 --> 01:16:13,440
Adam Curry: they are. Here's
nothing new still

1346
01:16:13,440 --> 01:16:17,430
John C Dvorak: vote Democrat. I
don't know. baffling. ASBO facts

1347
01:16:17,430 --> 01:16:18,360
why that is?

1348
01:16:19,139 --> 01:16:21,659
Adam Curry: Well, it's because
they got promised they got

1349
01:16:21,659 --> 01:16:26,099
promised goodness. But you know,
if you look on Tik Tok, even the

1350
01:16:26,099 --> 01:16:28,649
Chicago blocks like, I don't
know, man, that's trumpet

1351
01:16:28,649 --> 01:16:33,269
looking good. Now, he gangsta.
So Chicago local television is

1352
01:16:33,269 --> 01:16:39,119
where it's at now. And here's so
here's a reporter saying, Well,

1353
01:16:39,119 --> 01:16:42,089
you know, let's just explain
this whole concept of sanctuary

1354
01:16:42,089 --> 01:16:43,859
city and how we got into this
mess.

1355
01:16:43,889 --> 01:16:46,949
Unknown: Broadly speaking, it
can be defined as cities,

1356
01:16:46,949 --> 01:16:50,459
counties, or states with laws
dictating how much local

1357
01:16:50,459 --> 01:16:54,479
jurisdictions can cooperate with
federal immigration officials.

1358
01:16:54,539 --> 01:16:58,799
So there are 11 states that have
made themselves a sanctuary

1359
01:16:58,799 --> 01:17:02,009
states and hundreds of cities
and counties that have their own

1360
01:17:02,039 --> 01:17:07,829
range of policies. For example,
Chicago, they have a so called

1361
01:17:07,859 --> 01:17:12,029
welcoming city ordinance, and
that means that they do not ask

1362
01:17:12,029 --> 01:17:16,079
about immigration status or use
that to deny city services.

1363
01:17:16,199 --> 01:17:19,529
Officials also are not allowed
to provide Immigrations and

1364
01:17:19,529 --> 01:17:24,269
Customs Enforcement support. And
then there is Clayton County.

1365
01:17:24,959 --> 01:17:28,799
That's in Georgia, it has a much
narrower, narrower definition.

1366
01:17:28,979 --> 01:17:32,759
Officers do not honor ice
requests to detain migrants for

1367
01:17:32,759 --> 01:17:36,899
deportation. So many sanctuary
city laws revolve around ice

1368
01:17:36,899 --> 01:17:41,129
detainment requests. Here's how
it works. Essentially, when

1369
01:17:41,129 --> 01:17:42,899
you're arrested and you're
booked for a crime, law

1370
01:17:42,899 --> 01:17:45,359
enforcement takes your
fingerprints. And then those

1371
01:17:45,359 --> 01:17:48,749
fingerprints are automatically
sent to federal databases,

1372
01:17:48,779 --> 01:17:53,549
including one ice maintains for
unauthorized immigrants. Now ice

1373
01:17:53,549 --> 01:17:58,559
can send a detainer request to
ask local police to hold a

1374
01:17:58,559 --> 01:18:03,149
person until the agency arrives.
At sanctuary cities However,

1375
01:18:03,239 --> 01:18:08,189
they do not enforce those
requests. There you go.

1376
01:18:10,140 --> 01:18:15,360
Adam Curry: sanctuary cities, it
sounded good. Yes, of course we

1377
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:20,850
hate Trump. Of course we like
we'd like foreigners. We're our

1378
01:18:20,850 --> 01:18:22,440
country's built on migration.

1379
01:18:23,430 --> 01:18:24,690
John C Dvorak: That's my
favorite. Yes.

1380
01:18:25,110 --> 01:18:28,440
Adam Curry: We are an
immigration country. Yeah, yeah.

1381
01:18:28,530 --> 01:18:34,380
Legal. But I think, Oh, by the
way, Chicago, the solution now

1382
01:18:34,380 --> 01:18:40,770
that Pritzker, the governor who
has a new sister, the the

1383
01:18:40,770 --> 01:18:47,100
governor is his solution is we
need to approve these people to

1384
01:18:47,100 --> 01:18:51,150
work really quick. I mean, it's,
it's so it's so perfect. The

1385
01:18:51,150 --> 01:18:55,560
same thing they did in in New
York. Yeah. It's like, oh, we

1386
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:58,440
bring them in, oh, we need
temporary protected status for

1387
01:18:58,440 --> 01:19:01,470
these people quickly. Because
otherwise, they're just gonna be

1388
01:19:01,470 --> 01:19:06,150
sitting around not being useful,
using up resources. So let's

1389
01:19:06,150 --> 01:19:11,220
give them jobs, which will give
it nonprofits, which in turn are

1390
01:19:11,220 --> 01:19:15,240
funded, which in turn are funded
by the city, the state and state

1391
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:18,960
department. It's great. It's a
very, very good system. How

1392
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:23,970
about Guatemala? I think the
next TPS, temporary protected

1393
01:19:23,970 --> 01:19:26,400
status should come for the
Guatemalans and I think

1394
01:19:26,430 --> 01:19:28,800
John C Dvorak: why Guatemala,
that was the reason for

1395
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:31,440
Venezuela. There's no reason for
Guatemala. Here it is.

1396
01:19:31,470 --> 01:19:34,680
Unknown: Guatemala is in the
middle of a huge political

1397
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:35,430
crisis.

1398
01:19:35,460 --> 01:19:37,740
Yeah. Okay. So here's what's
happening. A presidential

1399
01:19:37,770 --> 01:19:41,430
election was held in August. The
results were already certified.

1400
01:19:41,430 --> 01:19:43,650
But the Attorney General and
other officials have made it

1401
01:19:43,650 --> 01:19:46,890
clear that they want to
challenge those results. And

1402
01:19:46,890 --> 01:19:49,440
that's led protesters to take to
the streets all over the

1403
01:19:49,440 --> 01:19:49,890
country.

1404
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:53,850
Guatemala is now entering a
fifth day of a national strike.

1405
01:19:54,030 --> 01:19:56,640
And Paris ADA Peralta is the in
the middle of it all in

1406
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:59,970
Guatemala City and he joins us
now hi, either. Hey, Leila. So

1407
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,180
We'll start with how we got here
and what's at stake.

1408
01:20:03,540 --> 01:20:07,350
So look, as you mentioned this
start. This starts in earlier

1409
01:20:07,350 --> 01:20:09,900
this summer when that not really
ever low wins the presidential

1410
01:20:09,900 --> 01:20:13,440
election. And this was a huge
surprise because that ever law

1411
01:20:13,650 --> 01:20:16,350
came from a small reformist
party and he was the anti

1412
01:20:16,350 --> 01:20:20,280
corruption candidate. No one
thought he could win an almost

1413
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:24,060
as soon as he does when the
ruling elite here who have been

1414
01:20:24,060 --> 01:20:27,060
terrified of actually being held
responsible for their

1415
01:20:27,060 --> 01:20:32,070
corruption. Well, they have done
their best to undo this when the

1416
01:20:32,070 --> 01:20:34,860
Electoral Commission actually
certified the results but the

1417
01:20:34,860 --> 01:20:38,460
Attorney General has said she is
investigating the president

1418
01:20:38,460 --> 01:20:41,940
elects party and on Saturday,
her office raided the Electoral

1419
01:20:41,940 --> 01:20:45,030
Commission, the investigators
ripped into bags of elections

1420
01:20:45,030 --> 01:20:48,180
material, and then by force,
they left with a bunch of

1421
01:20:48,180 --> 01:20:51,600
electoral materials. And they
haven't said why. One

1422
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:54,810
constitutional expert I spoke to
says that what the my left is

1423
01:20:54,810 --> 01:20:58,290
clearly in my law,
constitutional territory. We're

1424
01:20:58,290 --> 01:21:01,440
important branches of government
are fighting with each other for

1425
01:21:01,440 --> 01:21:05,190
supremacy. And that fight may
very well determined if better

1426
01:21:05,190 --> 01:21:08,010
not about Mr. Lowe, who was
elected in a landslide will

1427
01:21:08,010 --> 01:21:10,350
actually take power in January.

1428
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:13,140
Adam Curry: I'm just saying I've
been who gives a crap about

1429
01:21:13,140 --> 01:21:14,850
Guatemala. Well, it's time to
bro

1430
01:21:14,850 --> 01:21:17,640
John C Dvorak: I think. I don't
have any clips from it. But I

1431
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:21,330
Ecuador's even more in chaos.
Oh, the perfect bring them in.

1432
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:24,690
They took the guy who was
running the opposition guy, they

1433
01:21:24,690 --> 01:21:28,950
put him in jail and shot him. I
think it's a little better. So

1434
01:21:28,950 --> 01:21:31,110
this is a deal more
straightforward. A

1435
01:21:31,110 --> 01:21:34,320
Adam Curry: record map of
Guatemala we have a lot of ties

1436
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:35,190
with Guatemala.

1437
01:21:35,670 --> 01:21:38,490
John C Dvorak: The total goes
back television back to the

1438
01:21:39,059 --> 01:21:41,759
Adam Curry: I was just looking
at this. I was on the website of

1439
01:21:41,759 --> 01:21:49,649
the IO IOM annual report 2022.
They have the exact they have a

1440
01:21:49,709 --> 01:21:50,969
an infographic

1441
01:21:51,900 --> 01:21:54,300
John C Dvorak: very pretty
infographic

1442
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:58,350
Adam Curry: infographic that
they read. 31 million people

1443
01:21:58,350 --> 01:22:04,440
were reached in 2022. Across 170
countries with $2 billion. These

1444
01:22:04,440 --> 01:22:08,100
included IDPs internally
displaced persons, refugees and

1445
01:22:08,100 --> 01:22:12,270
migrants. And look they've done
stuff like the cccm. I don't

1446
01:22:12,270 --> 01:22:14,940
know what that means. But more
than 4 million people reach

1447
01:22:14,940 --> 01:22:18,900
through camp coordination and
camp management operations and

1448
01:22:18,900 --> 01:22:20,100
37 countries.

1449
01:22:21,930 --> 01:22:23,820
John C Dvorak: Fails camp
management.

1450
01:22:23,850 --> 01:22:26,220
Adam Curry: Well, that sounds
like an coordination. I think

1451
01:22:26,220 --> 01:22:28,620
this is how they coordinate
before they put them on the bus.

1452
01:22:29,580 --> 01:22:31,830
Hey, I'm gonna look at this. I'm
gonna dive into this report.

1453
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:34,080
Because then they're proud of
what they're doing. That's the

1454
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:35,550
thing. They're not bashful

1455
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:37,680
John C Dvorak: or should they
be?

1456
01:22:39,180 --> 01:22:40,230
Adam Curry: Well done.

1457
01:22:40,230 --> 01:22:41,190
John C Dvorak: Nobody cares.

1458
01:22:41,220 --> 01:22:43,110
Adam Curry: Well, that you know,
once they hear the Karelian

1459
01:22:43,110 --> 01:22:44,760
devoir Consulting Group, oh,
yeah,

1460
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:47,190
John C Dvorak: that's gonna do
it. They're gonna put a stop to

1461
01:22:47,190 --> 01:22:48,090
a lot of stuff.

1462
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:57,210
Adam Curry: Oh, wow. But this,
this, this woman this. This Amy

1463
01:22:57,210 --> 01:22:57,720
Poehler,

1464
01:22:57,750 --> 01:22:59,790
John C Dvorak: let's talk about
what's going on at least get

1465
01:22:59,790 --> 01:23:03,930
this out of the way. I've got
some clips from the PBS Brooks

1466
01:23:03,930 --> 01:23:07,050
and they had this Ruth woman
who's the editor of one of the

1467
01:23:07,050 --> 01:23:09,090
editors of the Washington Post,
and they had him up there.

1468
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:12,180
Again, this is the end of the on
the Friday show. They bring in

1469
01:23:12,180 --> 01:23:16,200
these two commentators, David
Brooks from the New York Times

1470
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:19,140
and someone from the Washington
Post, and they both trash

1471
01:23:19,140 --> 01:23:23,010
Republicans and trashed there's
no balance. There's no, no

1472
01:23:23,010 --> 01:23:26,280
insight. There's not somebody
saying well wonder why he said,

1473
01:23:26,430 --> 01:23:29,970
Why did Trump say that? No, no,
he didn't did there's nothing

1474
01:23:29,970 --> 01:23:34,170
like that. They won one time
they had a guy from the some

1475
01:23:34,830 --> 01:23:40,020
South Asian from the National
Review who actually tried to

1476
01:23:40,020 --> 01:23:44,280
explain things to people. But
why why bother? Let's listen to

1477
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:45,750
books on how Speaker

1478
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:49,170
Unknown: I say the word
unprecedent hits so much. I feel

1479
01:23:49,170 --> 01:23:52,950
it's losing some of its power.
But this week was unprecedented

1480
01:23:52,980 --> 01:23:56,670
to see the ousting of the
sitting House Speaker Kevin

1481
01:23:56,670 --> 01:23:59,610
McCarthy David let's just start
with that and how you're

1482
01:23:59,610 --> 01:24:01,590
reflecting on what unfolded this
week. Yeah,

1483
01:24:01,590 --> 01:24:03,540
well, there was a precedent
which was Caligula in the

1484
01:24:03,540 --> 01:24:09,150
Clinton for the Roman person.
Obviously joking, but But

1485
01:24:10,139 --> 01:24:12,869
Adam Curry: when was he Are you
sure was joking? Obviously

1486
01:24:12,869 --> 01:24:15,299
joking. Obviously. What a
douche.

1487
01:24:16,019 --> 01:24:22,349
Unknown: Totally unfold the
room. Obviously joking, but, but

1488
01:24:22,349 --> 01:24:25,319
in some sense, Donald Trump
introduced a note of of

1489
01:24:25,319 --> 01:24:29,519
narcissistic hucksterism, into
the American body politic. And

1490
01:24:29,519 --> 01:24:32,129
it's been interesting to watch
it spread throughout his party.

1491
01:24:32,459 --> 01:24:35,069
So I would say Vivek Ramaswamy
falls into that camp and

1492
01:24:35,069 --> 01:24:38,219
certainly Matt Gates and his
crew. This was not about any

1493
01:24:38,219 --> 01:24:41,939
substantive thing. This was just
pure chauvinism. showbusiness,

1494
01:24:41,999 --> 01:24:44,849
pure nihilism drove Ben, so you
have a group of people for whom

1495
01:24:44,849 --> 01:24:48,869
this is all nihilistic fun, but
then you see how it spreads. And

1496
01:24:48,869 --> 01:24:51,059
so in the middle of all the
fight over the speaker, there

1497
01:24:51,059 --> 01:24:53,999
was a meeting with the moderate
problem solvers club caucus, and

1498
01:24:53,999 --> 01:24:56,189
they were trying to get the
Democrats to save McCarthy. And

1499
01:24:56,189 --> 01:24:59,159
in the past, there had been talk
that had been reported the Nancy

1500
01:24:59,159 --> 01:25:01,589
Pelosi had told John Boehner
when he was speaker, she would

1501
01:25:01,619 --> 01:25:03,989
she wouldn't destroy the
institution, she would stand

1502
01:25:03,989 --> 01:25:06,809
behind him. But there's so much
distrust even among the

1503
01:25:06,809 --> 01:25:09,959
moderates, they couldn't come
close to a deal that would have

1504
01:25:09,959 --> 01:25:12,119
saved McCarthy and would have
prevented the meltdown we've

1505
01:25:12,119 --> 01:25:15,329
seen. So the rod is here, but
it's just spread throughout the

1506
01:25:15,329 --> 01:25:18,839
institution. It's just
fascinating, morbidly, to

1507
01:25:18,839 --> 01:25:22,949
Washington institution be torn
apart by show business, distrust

1508
01:25:22,949 --> 01:25:23,609
and hucksterism.

1509
01:25:23,970 --> 01:25:26,370
Adam Curry: Wow, he's not wrong
on the show business part. I

1510
01:25:26,370 --> 01:25:26,610
mean,

1511
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:28,800
John C Dvorak: well, the show
Yes. Well, we've already made

1512
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:33,540
that claim. But the idea of
nihilism fun, which is

1513
01:25:33,540 --> 01:25:39,270
ludicrous, is a it's a non
sequitur of some sort. But it's

1514
01:25:39,300 --> 01:25:42,240
nihilism is a rejection of
everything in life is

1515
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:44,700
meaningless. You're just a
depressive. There's you don't

1516
01:25:44,700 --> 01:25:48,510
have fun. There's no such thing
as nihilistic fun. It's

1517
01:25:48,510 --> 01:25:51,630
oxymoron. So that's kind of
weird that he said that. But the

1518
01:25:51,630 --> 01:25:56,100
other thing is that nobody wants
to point this out. It was 100%

1519
01:25:56,100 --> 01:25:59,490
of the Democrats that voted
McCarthy out. Yeah, he was only

1520
01:25:59,490 --> 01:26:03,030
a couple Republicans eight to be
exact. That said, No, we

1521
01:26:03,030 --> 01:26:05,730
wouldn't don't want McCarthy but
the Democrats are the ones that

1522
01:26:06,060 --> 01:26:10,470
are they denial lists. It's all
Democrats. It's all the

1523
01:26:10,470 --> 01:26:13,260
Democrats. It wasn't one
Democrat. This is all we keep

1524
01:26:13,260 --> 01:26:16,890
the guy. No, it was. But no, no,
no, it's always somehow this is

1525
01:26:16,890 --> 01:26:20,400
all of the Republicans fault. So
okay, whatever. Let's go to the

1526
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:25,110
second part of this. And this is
the I think it's got a little

1527
01:26:25,140 --> 01:26:29,250
insight on why I think Scalise
might win. This is Brooks again,

1528
01:26:29,250 --> 01:26:31,770
Brooks yakking away and Ukraine
funding.

1529
01:26:33,810 --> 01:26:36,210
Unknown: David, this is not just
about politics and the party.

1530
01:26:36,210 --> 01:26:39,600
There were real world impacts.
As Ruth mentioned, the bills are

1531
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:42,180
not passing through the house at
this moment. What does this mean

1532
01:26:42,180 --> 01:26:43,740
for Ukraine funding? Right? So

1533
01:26:43,740 --> 01:26:47,580
Steve Scalise support to Ukraine
funding and speedcraft farmers

1534
01:26:47,580 --> 01:26:50,490
for future speaker but Jordan
does not. And so to me, that's

1535
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:53,880
the big issue here. If if
Scalise doesn't get it, it's

1536
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:57,120
hard to see how Ukraine funding
goes through the big anomaly.

1537
01:26:57,150 --> 01:26:59,430
It's a remarkable thing to say,
by the way, compared to where we

1538
01:26:59,430 --> 01:27:01,350
were a year ago. And compared to
some of the atrocities that

1539
01:27:01,350 --> 01:27:02,400
happened this week and Ukraine

1540
01:27:05,820 --> 01:27:10,530
John C Dvorak: compared to where
we were a year ago, and compared

1541
01:27:10,530 --> 01:27:11,910
to the atrocities,

1542
01:27:11,970 --> 01:27:13,230
Adam Curry: let's listen again,
if

1543
01:27:13,440 --> 01:27:16,170
John C Dvorak: we what is what
sense, does that mean I want

1544
01:27:16,170 --> 01:27:17,820
Unknown: to hear it again,
doesn't get it. It's hard to see

1545
01:27:17,820 --> 01:27:21,360
how Ukraine funding goes through
the big anomaly. The remarkable

1546
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:23,310
thing to say, by the way,
compared to where we were a year

1547
01:27:23,310 --> 01:27:25,230
ago compared to some of the
atrocities that happened this

1548
01:27:25,230 --> 01:27:25,920
week in Ukraine.

1549
01:27:29,550 --> 01:27:32,640
John C Dvorak: But does that
mean? Well, a year ago, you're

1550
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:36,660
all in supporting Ukraine, but
compared to atrocities,

1551
01:27:36,690 --> 01:27:39,150
Adam Curry: some atrocities took
place this week.

1552
01:27:40,170 --> 01:27:43,770
John C Dvorak: But what is
support got to do with anything?

1553
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:47,310
I mean, he's saying, comparing
the support of what it where we

1554
01:27:47,310 --> 01:27:52,080
are today and where we were. And
atrocities I mean, it's just as

1555
01:27:52,110 --> 01:27:53,700
an atrocity. It's got nothing to
do with it.

1556
01:27:53,730 --> 01:27:56,010
Adam Curry: How you are really
pissed off at this Brooks guy.

1557
01:27:56,700 --> 01:27:57,090
Oh, this

1558
01:27:57,090 --> 01:27:59,910
John C Dvorak: guy is so bad.
He's just yammering about stuff.

1559
01:27:59,910 --> 01:28:03,000
And he's nervous. I can't
understand why.

1560
01:28:03,660 --> 01:28:07,710
Adam Curry: I have to play our
disclaimer. elitist voices of

1561
01:28:07,710 --> 01:28:12,390
America. This is NPR or PBS.

1562
01:28:13,980 --> 01:28:17,820
John C Dvorak: Alright, now what
really is bad about the PBS

1563
01:28:17,820 --> 01:28:22,830
thing? And I want to play this
again, Ruth, the other one. This

1564
01:28:22,830 --> 01:28:30,210
is the Brooks Ruth, on Trump PBS
clip. And it's, again, it's the

1565
01:28:30,210 --> 01:28:35,130
lack of any sort of balance.
It's just like, Trump's in a all

1566
01:28:35,370 --> 01:28:39,330
Yeah, you're right. Trump's in a
hole. This is not what you're

1567
01:28:39,330 --> 01:28:42,060
supposed to do with these two
people. They're supposed to be

1568
01:28:42,060 --> 01:28:45,270
balanced one of them. The fact
they should be argumentative at

1569
01:28:45,270 --> 01:28:47,940
some level, but they don't even
get that far. They're just

1570
01:28:48,060 --> 01:28:51,330
arguing about how much in
agreement they are. Listen to

1571
01:28:51,330 --> 01:28:52,260
this, I need

1572
01:28:52,260 --> 01:28:54,000
Unknown: to ask you about as
well about something else we've

1573
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,520
been reporting on. You may have
seen Laura Barron Lopez report

1574
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:58,920
earlier this week that she has
been tracking some of the

1575
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:02,160
ramping up of violent rhetoric
by former President Trump,

1576
01:29:02,550 --> 01:29:06,540
actually, in her report, just
recent remarks that she has been

1577
01:29:06,660 --> 01:29:10,260
reporting on earlier last month,
Mr. Trump suggested that General

1578
01:29:10,260 --> 01:29:14,010
Mark Milley should be executed.
He then went on to mock the

1579
01:29:14,010 --> 01:29:17,160
assault on Paul Pelosi, Nancy
Pelosi, his husband he called

1580
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:20,310
for shoplifters to be shot on
site late last month

1581
01:29:20,550 --> 01:29:23,790
Adam Curry: house. Okay, How
stupid are these people? He's

1582
01:29:23,790 --> 01:29:26,550
doing exactly what he did the
first time around. He's getting

1583
01:29:26,580 --> 01:29:28,770
in your head and you're talking
about him just

1584
01:29:28,770 --> 01:29:30,780
Unknown: a few days ago, he said
that migrants are, quote,

1585
01:29:30,930 --> 01:29:34,470
poisoning the blood of our
country which is echoing the

1586
01:29:34,470 --> 01:29:38,760
language of white supremacists
and of Adolf Hitler. Yeah, and

1587
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:42,990
invoke those words. It's
remarkable to me that I have

1588
01:29:42,990 --> 01:29:45,450
been repeating some of these
words right now. But are we at

1589
01:29:45,450 --> 01:29:48,060
risk of becoming numb to some of
this language?

1590
01:29:48,090 --> 01:29:51,120
I think we've been at risk of
that for the last seven years

1591
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:54,990
and I think all of us around
this table have struggled with

1592
01:29:55,200 --> 01:30:02,340
the conflict between giving this
man and his odious comments

1593
01:30:02,370 --> 01:30:06,900
oxygen, which is what he wants,
which is what fuels him, and

1594
01:30:06,930 --> 01:30:11,490
failing to expose them failing
to if you are an opinion

1595
01:30:11,490 --> 01:30:16,680
columnist like we are failing to
denounce them, and therefore

1596
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:19,830
allowing them to just percolate.
i This is

1597
01:30:19,830 --> 01:30:24,060
Adam Curry: so meta. This is
fantastic. It's like, we're

1598
01:30:24,060 --> 01:30:27,930
doing exactly what he wants us
to do. And we're not doing what

1599
01:30:27,930 --> 01:30:32,100
we shouldn't be doing. And we're
on PBS doing it. This is, this

1600
01:30:32,100 --> 01:30:36,900
is great. This is the true
demise of of mainstream, odious

1601
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:40,260
Unknown: comments, oxygen, which
is what he wants, which is what

1602
01:30:40,470 --> 01:30:46,500
fuels him and failing to expose
them failing to if you have an

1603
01:30:46,500 --> 01:30:50,940
opinion columnists like we are
failing to denounce them, and

1604
01:30:51,450 --> 01:30:55,650
therefore allowing them to just
percolate. I think we see this

1605
01:30:55,650 --> 01:31:02,190
now, with his persistence in the
polls, and he is clearly ramped

1606
01:31:02,190 --> 01:31:04,410
up the rhetoric. I can't
remember whether you mentioned

1607
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:10,290
the Mark Milley held the poison
the blood is the part that

1608
01:31:10,350 --> 01:31:15,180
really sickens me. And we see
right now, the justice system

1609
01:31:15,180 --> 01:31:19,890
trying to grapple with how to
keep him under control, as it

1610
01:31:19,890 --> 01:31:23,010
tries to hold him to account. I
think we need to be really

1611
01:31:23,010 --> 01:31:27,450
careful not to ignore him. But
we need to be really careful not

1612
01:31:27,450 --> 01:31:32,880
to feed what he wants, either by
overreacting or under reacting.

1613
01:31:33,150 --> 01:31:34,890
And I don't have the solution to
that.

1614
01:31:35,340 --> 01:31:39,120
Adam Curry: Geez, this is great

1615
01:31:39,300 --> 01:31:42,420
John C Dvorak: pearl clutching.
Now

1616
01:31:42,450 --> 01:31:44,100
Adam Curry: Yeah, of

1617
01:31:44,100 --> 01:31:46,470
John C Dvorak: course the other
person should now the other

1618
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:49,770
counter argument would be
someone trying to explain what's

1619
01:31:49,770 --> 01:31:53,610
going on or even do what you
just did, which was say this is

1620
01:31:53,610 --> 01:31:56,130
a matter that you're dealing
with and this is what he needs

1621
01:31:56,130 --> 01:32:01,260
to stop. You know, you can you
you can pay attention or not pay

1622
01:32:01,260 --> 01:32:06,240
attention. Some of it you have
to look at as humorous. Mark

1623
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:11,910
Milley should be executed.
shoplifters should be shot. This

1624
01:32:11,910 --> 01:32:16,770
is funny. So but nobody no, we
don't have that. Instead we get

1625
01:32:16,770 --> 01:32:19,440
this. Here's Brooks with his
counter.

1626
01:32:19,470 --> 01:32:20,760
Unknown: David, how do you view
it? Yeah, well,

1627
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:23,130
there's the platform for a
second term. I mean, he's he's

1628
01:32:23,130 --> 01:32:25,530
talking the way authoritarians
talk like the real hardcore

1629
01:32:25,530 --> 01:32:28,980
authoritarians talk. And so he's
got to ramp up the rhetoric

1630
01:32:28,980 --> 01:32:32,700
continually to keep the crowd
pleased. And then he's got a he

1631
01:32:32,700 --> 01:32:34,740
I think he's growing
increasingly as he's threatened

1632
01:32:34,740 --> 01:32:37,620
increasingly, I don't know if
the range is too strong a word,

1633
01:32:37,620 --> 01:32:43,290
but also the word. Okay, I'll
stick with the range. You know,

1634
01:32:43,740 --> 01:32:47,370
I'm, I don't know how to stop.
Well, people like Dustin.

1635
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:50,550
And there's one other element in
there which is

1636
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:55,020
Adam Curry: he's like, how is
this our job? People like us

1637
01:32:55,020 --> 01:32:57,720
have to stop this. We're
powerless. But people like us

1638
01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:00,570
know the elites. We have to stop
this. This is no good.

1639
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:05,520
Unknown: And so you know, the
I'm I don't know how to start.

1640
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:07,260
How people like Dustin

1641
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:10,320
Adam Curry: what is people like
us? What do you think that

1642
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:11,370
people like us? Is that

1643
01:33:12,180 --> 01:33:15,630
John C Dvorak: all you said it
the elites the ones who know

1644
01:33:15,630 --> 01:33:20,070
better? People like us people
like us the the we're supposed

1645
01:33:20,070 --> 01:33:22,980
to stop it? I don't know why and
she had been Bruce has already

1646
01:33:22,980 --> 01:33:25,620
given up she's I don't know what
to do about it. I mean, people

1647
01:33:25,620 --> 01:33:29,340
like us. People like gosh, I
can't stop it. What are we gonna

1648
01:33:29,340 --> 01:33:30,390
do? Oh my god.

1649
01:33:33,030 --> 01:33:35,550
Unknown: I don't know how to how
people like us and

1650
01:33:36,750 --> 01:33:40,680
one other element in there,
which is he's he's doing his

1651
01:33:40,710 --> 01:33:45,270
punching. He's deranged. She
loves to do it. He is. But he is

1652
01:33:45,270 --> 01:33:48,840
also trying to force these
judges into overreacting and

1653
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:49,770
making a mistake.

1654
01:33:49,860 --> 01:33:52,290
We expect to see more of that. I
think in the months ahead. RUTH

1655
01:33:52,290 --> 01:33:54,840
MARCUS, David Brooks, thank you
so much. Always good to see you.

1656
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:55,350
Oh, it's

1657
01:33:55,350 --> 01:33:57,510
Adam Curry: good to see you.
Great job, everybody. All right,

1658
01:33:57,510 --> 01:34:00,360
everybody. Hey, let's go to the
bar. We had a great show was

1659
01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:05,490
good. Great show a great show.
Well, this is par for the course

1660
01:34:05,490 --> 01:34:08,310
because Hillary Clinton is out
swooping around. Oh, I should

1661
01:34:08,310 --> 01:34:11,850
have gotten little sweepsouth
Where's my your soup? Yeah, I

1662
01:34:11,850 --> 01:34:18,210
haven't. I haven't cackle. She's
out. She's out and about with

1663
01:34:18,210 --> 01:34:22,440
her friends. She's out with
Christiane Amanpour. That's

1664
01:34:22,440 --> 01:34:26,850
right. Oh, is here everybody.

1665
01:34:27,510 --> 01:34:31,410
Unknown: When you see a another
matchup between potentially

1666
01:34:31,410 --> 01:34:34,470
Trump and President Biden, what
goes through your mind and

1667
01:34:34,470 --> 01:34:39,540
particularly, how do you process
this person who's defeated you

1668
01:34:39,540 --> 01:34:45,000
back in 2016. Given all the
you've said 91 indictments, you

1669
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:48,780
know, civil fraud, sexual
transgressions according to the

1670
01:34:48,780 --> 01:34:49,290
courts.

1671
01:34:51,210 --> 01:34:53,340
Adam Curry: Sexual
transgressions according to the

1672
01:34:53,340 --> 01:34:56,460
court, according to the code
into the court, according to the

1673
01:34:56,460 --> 01:35:00,240
court, I love it. It's something
about the British That's

1674
01:35:00,300 --> 01:35:04,770
Christiane uses that just makes
me feel so warm and fuzzy.

1675
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:08,460
Unknown: How's this still
happening? Ha, ha, was

1676
01:35:08,460 --> 01:35:10,890
Adam Curry: it still happening?
We've got to join brookstown at

1677
01:35:10,890 --> 01:35:11,400
the pub.

1678
01:35:11,430 --> 01:35:18,420
Unknown: It's a classic tale of
an authoritarian, populist. Who

1679
01:35:18,990 --> 01:35:20,880
really has a good did

1680
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:23,850
Adam Curry: Hitler have humor
like this? Did Mussolini have

1681
01:35:23,850 --> 01:35:29,070
humor? This is something we
should look up. Because it's so

1682
01:35:29,070 --> 01:35:32,460
classic. Did Mussolini say the
stuff that Trump says? Do you

1683
01:35:32,460 --> 01:35:33,420
have bits?

1684
01:35:34,230 --> 01:35:35,940
John C Dvorak: I bet you he did.

1685
01:35:35,969 --> 01:35:39,599
Adam Curry: I'm curious to find
out how is this still happening?

1686
01:35:39,900 --> 01:35:46,890
Unknown: It's a classic tale of
an authoritarian populist, who

1687
01:35:47,460 --> 01:35:53,790
really has a grip on the
emotional psychological needs

1688
01:35:53,790 --> 01:35:58,710
and desires of a portion of the
population.

1689
01:35:58,770 --> 01:36:01,770
Adam Curry: Okay, now, this is
good. Here. Let's go back into

1690
01:36:01,770 --> 01:36:06,030
the deplorables. He has a
psychological grip on a portion

1691
01:36:06,030 --> 01:36:08,820
of the population. At this
point. She's not even saying

1692
01:36:08,820 --> 01:36:11,610
Republicans or anything she is
saying a portion of the

1693
01:36:11,610 --> 01:36:15,840
population. If you feel that
she's talking about you, she's

1694
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:16,860
probably talking about you.

1695
01:36:17,339 --> 01:36:21,089
Unknown: And the base of the
Republican Party, for whatever

1696
01:36:21,089 --> 01:36:24,599
combination of reasons and it is
emotional and psychological.

1697
01:36:25,619 --> 01:36:31,079
sees in him someone who speaks
for them. And they are

1698
01:36:31,109 --> 01:36:34,799
determined that they will
continue to vote for him attend

1699
01:36:34,799 --> 01:36:39,179
his rallies, where his
merchandise merch because for

1700
01:36:39,179 --> 01:36:44,969
whatever reason, he and his very
negative

1701
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:47,880
Adam Curry: look for whatever
reason, so she hasn't even

1702
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:51,540
really thought about the reason
why but for whatever reason, his

1703
01:36:51,570 --> 01:36:55,470
Unknown: merchandise, because
for whatever reason, good catch,

1704
01:36:55,500 --> 01:37:03,510
he and his very negative, nasty
form of politics resonates with

1705
01:37:03,510 --> 01:37:07,260
them. Maybe they don't like
migrants. Maybe they don't like

1706
01:37:07,260 --> 01:37:10,530
gay people, or black people, or
the woman who got the promotion

1707
01:37:10,590 --> 01:37:11,700
at work they didn't get.

1708
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:14,340
Adam Curry: Wait a minute. Well,
let's make sure let's make sure

1709
01:37:14,340 --> 01:37:18,180
we get this right. If you don't
like migrants, if you don't like

1710
01:37:18,180 --> 01:37:21,030
black people, if you don't like
that, what if you don't like

1711
01:37:21,030 --> 01:37:24,780
that woman who got the promotion
over you at work? Well vote for

1712
01:37:24,780 --> 01:37:25,710
Unknown: Trump is

1713
01:37:26,010 --> 01:37:29,010
John C Dvorak: nasty. We'll fix
it. We'll fix it right? Oh,

1714
01:37:29,010 --> 01:37:29,280
isn't

1715
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:32,190
Unknown: eighths with them.
Maybe they don't like migrants.

1716
01:37:32,250 --> 01:37:35,670
Maybe they don't like gay people
or black people or the woman who

1717
01:37:35,670 --> 01:37:39,000
got the promotion at work. They
didn't get WIC whatever the

1718
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:43,950
reason, you know, make America
great, again, was a bid for

1719
01:37:43,950 --> 01:37:48,750
nostalgia to return to a place
where where women did what we

1720
01:37:48,750 --> 01:37:53,520
told him, you know, people could
be in charge of their lives feel

1721
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:57,180
empowered. Yes. See what they
want and screw that.

1722
01:37:57,270 --> 01:37:59,790
Adam Curry: But listen to his
where you could be in charge of

1723
01:37:59,790 --> 01:38:03,780
your life? Yes. Say we want Yes.
Yeah, we don't want

1724
01:38:03,780 --> 01:38:04,980
John C Dvorak: that. No, hold
on,

1725
01:38:05,010 --> 01:38:09,150
Unknown: be in charge of their
lives feel empowered, say what

1726
01:38:09,150 --> 01:38:13,050
they want and sold who ever came
in their way? And that was

1727
01:38:13,050 --> 01:38:17,070
really attractive to a
significant horse, you know?

1728
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:19,290
Adam Curry: Yes. Yes.

1729
01:38:19,440 --> 01:38:22,920
John C Dvorak: This? I've heard
this clip. I was. I didn't clip

1730
01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:23,010
it.

1731
01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:25,080
Adam Curry: There's a part.
There's a part two, obviously.

1732
01:38:25,440 --> 01:38:29,490
John C Dvorak: Yeah. I didn't
hear that part. That is a

1733
01:38:29,490 --> 01:38:30,960
disgusting thing. She said,

1734
01:38:30,990 --> 01:38:33,990
Adam Curry: I know that. And
that's what I love about our

1735
01:38:33,990 --> 01:38:38,010
producers. Because everyone got
the part I'm about to play now.

1736
01:38:38,010 --> 01:38:40,770
And oh, listen to what she's
saying. But this part is really

1737
01:38:40,770 --> 01:38:41,910
the disgusting part.

1738
01:38:42,210 --> 01:38:44,760
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the
disgusting part is you you what

1739
01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:48,060
you wanted to be able to control
your own life and say what you

1740
01:38:48,060 --> 01:38:48,330
want.

1741
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:52,620
Adam Curry: Oh, that's no good.
You can't be doing no

1742
01:38:52,620 --> 01:38:55,920
John C Dvorak: good. No good
because he wanted to make people

1743
01:38:56,490 --> 01:38:58,260
make their own decisions for
themselves.

1744
01:38:58,950 --> 01:39:01,710
Adam Curry: Oh, no, no, that's
not how we do things around

1745
01:39:01,710 --> 01:39:02,760
here. And she and of course

1746
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:06,960
John C Dvorak: I'm poor is an
idiot. She just sits there. Just

1747
01:39:06,990 --> 01:39:08,100
laps it up

1748
01:39:08,670 --> 01:39:11,280
Adam Curry: on port because they
have a wide shot to shot. She's

1749
01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:14,010
not even looking at Hillary.
She's looking. She's she's

1750
01:39:14,010 --> 01:39:16,740
looking at the wall. I think
she's stoned. She's looking at

1751
01:39:16,740 --> 01:39:19,260
the wall. She's looking. She's
not looking at Hillary while

1752
01:39:19,260 --> 01:39:21,540
she's talking. You know, if
someone's talking to

1753
01:39:21,540 --> 01:39:24,060
interviewing, you'd be kind of
intently looking at her. You

1754
01:39:24,060 --> 01:39:24,210
want

1755
01:39:24,210 --> 01:39:25,650
John C Dvorak: to kind of pay
attention to what they're

1756
01:39:25,650 --> 01:39:27,810
saying. So you might come up
with a question. She's

1757
01:39:27,810 --> 01:39:28,380
fidgeting.

1758
01:39:29,070 --> 01:39:33,810
Adam Curry: He's fidgeting and
it's weird. Very weird. Anyway,

1759
01:39:33,930 --> 01:39:35,220
here's the money shot. There

1760
01:39:35,220 --> 01:39:39,330
Unknown: wasn't this little tale
of extremism waving, you know,

1761
01:39:39,330 --> 01:39:43,200
wagging the dog of the
Republican Party, as it is

1762
01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:47,850
today. And sadly, so many of
those extremists those mega

1763
01:39:47,850 --> 01:39:51,180
extremists. Oh,

1764
01:39:51,180 --> 01:39:53,970
Adam Curry: the extremists.
That's the one that according to

1765
01:39:53,970 --> 01:39:57,540
Newsweek, the FBI is tracking
the mega extremists.

1766
01:39:58,050 --> 01:40:00,780
Unknown: Take their marching
orders from Donald Trump. Who

1767
01:40:01,290 --> 01:40:06,720
has no credibility left by any
measure? She's only in it for

1768
01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:09,750
himself. He's now defending
himself in civil actions and

1769
01:40:09,750 --> 01:40:13,410
criminal actions. And when do
they break with him? You know,

1770
01:40:13,410 --> 01:40:18,060
because at some point, you know,
maybe there needs to be a formal

1771
01:40:18,060 --> 01:40:20,520
deprogramming of the cult
members but something

1772
01:40:23,790 --> 01:40:26,760
Adam Curry: she finally said it,
but you're just being yourself

1773
01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:30,210
Hillary. You need to be
deprogrammed lady

1774
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:34,500
John C Dvorak: you know that
earlier clip that part where she

1775
01:40:34,500 --> 01:40:37,830
said that people will what are
people think they want to? They

1776
01:40:37,830 --> 01:40:41,220
want to control their own lives
and speak freely? That's crazy.

1777
01:40:41,220 --> 01:40:46,380
You got his on believable? Yeah.
And of course, you're right.

1778
01:40:46,380 --> 01:40:49,860
Nobody picked up on that. No,
but they all picked up on the

1779
01:40:49,860 --> 01:40:52,380
deprogramming thing because it
kind of fits into some sort of,

1780
01:40:52,380 --> 01:40:54,390
I don't know, ranking 84 thing.

1781
01:40:54,420 --> 01:40:59,400
Adam Curry: So yeah. So here's
an example of someone who was

1782
01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:04,800
truly programmed, who truly is
part of a cult, a cult that and

1783
01:41:05,490 --> 01:41:08,850
you know, in the Netherlands now
the what's the what's that

1784
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:11,070
climate Climate Change Group?

1785
01:41:12,870 --> 01:41:16,200
John C Dvorak: What's the
climate or die? Death?

1786
01:41:16,290 --> 01:41:19,980
Adam Curry: The Delta? No, no,
no, the climate is something x.

1787
01:41:19,980 --> 01:41:24,930
What is it gone? It's the I
can't remember the name. Well,

1788
01:41:24,930 --> 01:41:28,440
so they're out every convention
distinction. Yes. Extinction.

1789
01:41:28,440 --> 01:41:33,510
Something. Yeah. So they're out
every day on the 812 which is

1790
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:37,590
the entryway extinction.
Rebellion. Thank you. Nation

1791
01:41:37,590 --> 01:41:41,130
rebellion. Yeah. Which is a
pretty important highway goes

1792
01:41:41,130 --> 01:41:43,740
through Thrift, which is in the
middle of the country of

1793
01:41:43,740 --> 01:41:47,550
freeway. Yeah. And they're out
there. And they stop traffic.

1794
01:41:48,540 --> 01:41:51,480
And they're doing it every
single day. And now they are

1795
01:41:51,480 --> 01:41:55,140
suing the government saying you
should not be allowed to spray

1796
01:41:55,140 --> 01:41:57,990
water cannons spray us with
water cannons, because we're

1797
01:41:57,990 --> 01:42:02,790
getting bruises. And poor baby.
Yeah, that's an actual debate.

1798
01:42:02,820 --> 01:42:09,060
It's crazy. So sky, Sky News.
HUBZone Zoey Cohen, now she's

1799
01:42:09,060 --> 01:42:14,580
from just stop oil. Which, you
know, I'll just go back to my

1800
01:42:14,610 --> 01:42:16,590
Well, I don't know whatever
happened to peak oil, but that

1801
01:42:16,590 --> 01:42:19,200
was going to stop all by itself.
But I guess it just keeps on

1802
01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:23,040
flowing. Zoe. It's unbelievable.
She is and she I would call her

1803
01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:28,230
a climate tard she is so upset,
even at the people on the news.

1804
01:42:28,440 --> 01:42:32,850
And these specific these news
people. What are you doing?

1805
01:42:32,880 --> 01:42:36,090
Unknown: How worse does it have
to get how many kids often die?

1806
01:42:40,590 --> 01:42:43,680
I don't know what else to say.
Why aren't you on the streets?

1807
01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:47,040
We're less that's all I can say.
How do you explain your

1808
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:51,210
inaction? To explain it?
Everyone here are the presenters

1809
01:42:51,210 --> 01:42:54,210
that we talked to how do you
explain your inaction? How much

1810
01:42:54,210 --> 01:42:57,990
longer you're going to keep this
journalistic objectivity up

1811
01:42:58,200 --> 01:43:01,080
until the waters laughing at
your ankles until you Oh, no.

1812
01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:04,440
Adam Curry: The water is going
to be laughing at your ankles

1813
01:43:05,850 --> 01:43:09,420
Unknown: unfit just a foil
what's next? Will you continue

1814
01:43:09,420 --> 01:43:11,250
to destroy these events?

1815
01:43:12,150 --> 01:43:15,600
John C Dvorak: This is taking
place in a country that is

1816
01:43:15,630 --> 01:43:20,430
underwater. No. This is the
below sea level the entire

1817
01:43:20,430 --> 01:43:20,970
country.

1818
01:43:22,020 --> 01:43:24,120
Adam Curry: This is this is not
the Netherlands. It's the UK.

1819
01:43:24,660 --> 01:43:27,120
Okay, sorry. This is the UK I'm
sorry. That didn't mean to

1820
01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:30,120
confuse you. Now this is Sky
confused as the Sky News. They

1821
01:43:30,120 --> 01:43:32,820
John C Dvorak: don't speak. Sky
News is some girls crying on

1822
01:43:32,820 --> 01:43:33,270
camera.

1823
01:43:33,990 --> 01:43:37,290
Adam Curry: Some girls is a
grown woman, a grown

1824
01:43:37,290 --> 01:43:40,290
John C Dvorak: woman crying on
camera because the news people

1825
01:43:40,290 --> 01:43:42,600
aren't protesting with her.
Okay, that makes sense.

1826
01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:48,870
Unknown: And what's next? Will
you continue to disrupt events

1827
01:43:48,900 --> 01:43:50,640
or what's what's the what's?

1828
01:43:51,300 --> 01:43:54,180
What's the plan because it's
morally wrong to not take the

1829
01:43:54,180 --> 01:43:57,720
action that we know from history
has got some chance of having an

1830
01:43:57,720 --> 01:44:00,990
effect. People feel powerless.
We are the opposite. When we

1831
01:44:00,990 --> 01:44:03,900
come together, we have enormous
power. There are so many more of

1832
01:44:03,900 --> 01:44:04,890
us than there are of them.

1833
01:44:05,130 --> 01:44:08,040
Adam Curry: So and it doesn't
matter. It's morally wrong not

1834
01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:10,170
to disrupt things and you know,
these people are going to start

1835
01:44:10,170 --> 01:44:13,140
killing people. It's always
these people who wind up killing

1836
01:44:13,140 --> 01:44:16,770
politicians. It starts with a
pie in the face. Yeah. And then

1837
01:44:16,770 --> 01:44:19,380
it winds up the shooting people
these people are deranged.

1838
01:44:19,380 --> 01:44:22,920
They're very dangerous. Yeah,
they are. And they are egged on

1839
01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:23,280
you're right,

1840
01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:24,900
John C Dvorak: that's there,
there was really an uptick in

1841
01:44:24,900 --> 01:44:27,960
arms because they their life's
at stake the way they see it

1842
01:44:27,960 --> 01:44:28,230
because

1843
01:44:28,230 --> 01:44:31,380
Adam Curry: the water is lapping
at their ankles. So now we go to

1844
01:44:31,380 --> 01:44:34,680
Canada Navia Canada, where as
you know, of course, September

1845
01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:39,570
was the hottest month ever.
hottest month ever, in all of

1846
01:44:39,570 --> 01:44:43,110
existence of Canada. And and
let's just

1847
01:44:43,110 --> 01:44:43,920
John C Dvorak: start planting.

1848
01:44:44,850 --> 01:44:47,490
Adam Curry: I bring in this. I
bring in this clip because it

1849
01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:54,000
includes a quote from an actual
climate scientist, but they're

1850
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:58,890
talking to the environment. The
Environment Canada's climate is

1851
01:44:58,890 --> 01:45:00,930
climatologist so this I think
this guy is actually a

1852
01:45:00,930 --> 01:45:05,340
government guy. But as a fun
quote in here and just you know,

1853
01:45:05,430 --> 01:45:10,050
all other climate stuff, it's
your daily no agenda dose of

1854
01:45:10,050 --> 01:45:11,550
climate nonsense, so

1855
01:45:11,580 --> 01:45:15,420
Unknown: let's cut straight to
it. Why is it so much hotter

1856
01:45:15,420 --> 01:45:18,360
this year? Not just here in
Canada but globally.

1857
01:45:19,290 --> 01:45:23,070
Well, you know, certainly the
the news is not surprising and

1858
01:45:23,070 --> 01:45:27,240
shocking at all. We have warmest
summer. Globally as ticket

1859
01:45:27,240 --> 01:45:29,820
thermometer in the planet. We
had the warmest June ever.

1860
01:45:32,070 --> 01:45:34,080
Adam Curry: You can do it
yourself, people. You can stick

1861
01:45:34,080 --> 01:45:37,050
a thermometer in the planet and
see what's going on. But make

1862
01:45:37,050 --> 01:45:39,300
sure you stick it in its butt.
Otherwise you might get a

1863
01:45:39,300 --> 01:45:42,480
misreading so stick it a stick a
thermometer in the planet. Well,

1864
01:45:42,510 --> 01:45:43,620
you know, what are you drinking?

1865
01:45:44,940 --> 01:45:48,390
John C Dvorak: Just plain old
polar unflavored natural

1866
01:45:48,390 --> 01:45:49,140
seltzer.

1867
01:45:50,700 --> 01:45:53,790
Adam Curry: Okay, all right. And
we're back to sticking a fork in

1868
01:45:53,790 --> 01:45:56,190
the fork sticking a monitor in
the planet.

1869
01:45:56,580 --> 01:45:59,460
Unknown: Well, you know
certainly the the news is not

1870
01:45:59,490 --> 01:46:02,550
surprising and shocking at all.
We had the warmest summer

1871
01:46:03,420 --> 01:46:06,390
globally a stick a thermometer
in the planet we had the warmest

1872
01:46:06,420 --> 01:46:11,550
June ever. July was the warmest
month of any month in in

1873
01:46:11,550 --> 01:46:15,090
history. And then August has
followed that and then finally

1874
01:46:15,090 --> 01:46:19,710
now and then September so this
recreates a course of pattern. I

1875
01:46:19,710 --> 01:46:23,790
think the there's a lot of sort
of residual heat in the in the

1876
01:46:23,790 --> 01:46:27,240
lakes and the land and the
oceans. The oceans are hot tubs

1877
01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:28,620
out there. And

1878
01:46:28,830 --> 01:46:34,380
Adam Curry: oceans are hot tubs.
Now this is a Jacuzzi hot tub or

1879
01:46:34,410 --> 01:46:37,890
is it that just have LED lights?
Is it cool? Or it means you can

1880
01:46:37,890 --> 01:46:41,400
just jump in the ocean and just
sit back and chill it's a hot

1881
01:46:41,400 --> 01:46:41,700
tub

1882
01:46:41,730 --> 01:46:44,970
Unknown: the oceans The oceans
are hot tubs out there Marcia

1883
01:46:44,970 --> 01:46:48,390
and and they retain that heat
longer. And so they find they

1884
01:46:48,390 --> 01:46:51,900
give it up and it just warms the
air and and so he see the

1885
01:46:51,900 --> 01:46:53,640
temperature rise because the
jacuzzi

1886
01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:54,660
Adam Curry: planet because of
it.

1887
01:46:55,200 --> 01:46:58,740
John C Dvorak: This Yeah, if
you're gonna stick a thermometer

1888
01:46:58,740 --> 01:47:02,310
in the planet Yeah, to get an
accurate temperature wouldn't

1889
01:47:02,310 --> 01:47:07,620
you stick it into into the
planet's butthole or Toronto as

1890
01:47:07,620 --> 01:47:14,400
it were, I already made sorry,
why toronto, toronto the

1891
01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:14,820
Canadian

1892
01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:18,780
Unknown: little Gianna
divorce.org And they just warms

1893
01:47:18,780 --> 01:47:22,230
the air and and so we see the
temperature rise because of it.

1894
01:47:22,290 --> 01:47:27,000
Hey, this this scorching
torrential or heat is is has

1895
01:47:27,000 --> 01:47:28,410
scorching torrential

1896
01:47:28,410 --> 01:47:32,340
Adam Curry: heat. This is this
is new language now isn't

1897
01:47:32,340 --> 01:47:36,570
torrential usually used for
rain? But he's not scorching. It

1898
01:47:36,570 --> 01:47:39,630
John C Dvorak: refers to a
torch. Yeah, have something's

1899
01:47:39,630 --> 01:47:41,790
scorching torrential heat. So we
see the

1900
01:47:41,790 --> 01:47:44,220
Unknown: temperature ratios
because of it. Hey, this

1901
01:47:44,550 --> 01:47:49,950
scorching heat is is happening
globally in Canada. And it's

1902
01:47:49,950 --> 01:47:52,110
unrelenting. Here we go to stop
that.

1903
01:47:52,260 --> 01:47:55,680
And one. Climate scientists at
Berkeley you may have read this.

1904
01:47:56,040 --> 01:47:59,640
We've said that this is
absolutely gobsmackingly

1905
01:47:59,670 --> 01:48:02,100
bananas. And that's coming from
a scientist.

1906
01:48:02,280 --> 01:48:07,410
Adam Curry: Oh no. A scientists
use the word Godsmack Well,

1907
01:48:07,740 --> 01:48:11,070
well, we're British. We're gonna
die now things in Berkeley

1908
01:48:11,400 --> 01:48:16,350
gobsmackingly bananas. Oh, no.
gloves are off.

1909
01:48:16,560 --> 01:48:18,150
Unknown: Climate scientists.
Yes.

1910
01:48:18,960 --> 01:48:21,480
John C Dvorak: Let it play
because if I may may have a

1911
01:48:21,480 --> 01:48:22,530
question about this.

1912
01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:26,370
Unknown: Berkeley you may have
read this Dave said that this is

1913
01:48:26,370 --> 01:48:30,660
absolutely Gob smackingly
bananas, and that's coming from

1914
01:48:30,660 --> 01:48:34,920
a scientist. So my question to
you then and you've already sort

1915
01:48:34,920 --> 01:48:37,530
of touched on this when people
start wondering are we in for a

1916
01:48:37,530 --> 01:48:40,770
mild or winter? Is there
anything to cool things down?

1917
01:48:41,670 --> 01:48:45,000
Well, I mean, as I say, you
could have something hit the

1918
01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:48,570
planet I suppose. But But no,
it's all this residual heat is

1919
01:48:48,570 --> 01:48:52,470
not going to give it away. So we
clearly are not canceling winter

1920
01:48:52,470 --> 01:48:56,220
in Canada. We've never done
that. But clearly it looks like

1921
01:48:56,220 --> 01:48:59,880
without particularly El Nino we
know from history tells us when

1922
01:48:59,880 --> 01:49:05,370
you have a an El Nino just an
ordinary running El Nino it

1923
01:49:05,400 --> 01:49:06,960
tends to be warmer in Canada.

1924
01:49:06,990 --> 01:49:09,390
Adam Curry: So he's
contradicting himself. What's El

1925
01:49:09,390 --> 01:49:13,590
Nino? Well, yes, it's El Nino.
So it's not climate change is El

1926
01:49:13,590 --> 01:49:17,730
Nino. But it's gobsmackingly
bananas. But

1927
01:49:18,419 --> 01:49:20,879
John C Dvorak: this is the
question I have. Okay. When the

1928
01:49:20,909 --> 01:49:26,489
scientist says this is
gobsmacking the man? Yes. Is he

1929
01:49:26,489 --> 01:49:34,169
referring to the climate
hysteria? Is that what is he

1930
01:49:34,169 --> 01:49:36,419
referring to this guy being
nuts?

1931
01:49:36,480 --> 01:49:42,210
Adam Curry: I hope so. I hope
so. Well, maybe he's referring

1932
01:49:42,210 --> 01:49:45,720
to my final story. Maybe he's
referring to this. As I said,

1933
01:49:46,650 --> 01:49:51,510
we've seen this before. The
climate people the earth people,

1934
01:49:52,110 --> 01:49:58,140
the animal people to be quite
honest. They pin for town was

1935
01:49:58,200 --> 01:50:02,160
assassinated two weeks Before
he's going to win this one

1936
01:50:02,160 --> 01:50:05,100
posthumously was, was going to
be the the Prime Minister of the

1937
01:50:05,100 --> 01:50:09,390
Netherlands. animal activist
shot him in the head coming out

1938
01:50:09,390 --> 01:50:13,950
of radio studio. It's always
these people who lose the plot.

1939
01:50:14,430 --> 01:50:20,670
They go crazy. And so now they
know. I mean, they go over the

1940
01:50:20,670 --> 01:50:22,860
edge at a certain point like
this lady, she's breaking down

1941
01:50:22,860 --> 01:50:26,310
in the studio. That lady needs
help. She needs help right away

1942
01:50:26,310 --> 01:50:28,800
because that's the kind of
person who is going to do

1943
01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:36,450
something very drastic. state of
fear people go read the book. So

1944
01:50:36,480 --> 01:50:40,800
no surprise to me that we get
stories like this from people

1945
01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:43,050
who've gone green crazy.

1946
01:50:43,350 --> 01:50:45,510
Unknown: Next tonight, a
disturbing discovery at a

1947
01:50:45,510 --> 01:50:50,280
funeral home in Fremont County,
Colorado. Police say 115 bodies

1948
01:50:50,280 --> 01:50:53,910
were found improperly stored at
the facility that returned to

1949
01:50:53,910 --> 01:50:57,930
nature Funeral Home performs so
called green burials without

1950
01:50:57,930 --> 01:51:01,530
using embalming chemicals or
metal caskets. Authorities say

1951
01:51:01,530 --> 01:51:05,010
the bodies will have to be
identified through DNA. So far,

1952
01:51:05,010 --> 01:51:08,070
no charges have been filed
against the funeral home to

1953
01:51:08,070 --> 01:51:10,650
Adam Curry: they're just
mulching these people. Oh, it's

1954
01:51:10,650 --> 01:51:15,600
green. Don't worry. You can't
just throw bodies in the and say

1955
01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:17,940
we're we're a green funeral
company.

1956
01:51:18,389 --> 01:51:20,489
John C Dvorak: It's a good
business model.

1957
01:51:21,059 --> 01:51:26,609
Adam Curry: It's cheap. Hey, I
got a great idea. And we can do

1958
01:51:26,609 --> 01:51:29,849
funeral home with it. But we can
still charge people for the

1959
01:51:29,849 --> 01:51:30,149
cast.

1960
01:51:30,150 --> 01:51:33,120
John C Dvorak: We just need a
big X we need a soft part of the

1961
01:51:33,540 --> 01:51:37,950
berth and Texas is filled with
this by the way, big excavator

1962
01:51:38,010 --> 01:51:41,970
and dig down a couple of stores
and just toss them in wood

1963
01:51:41,970 --> 01:51:42,510
chipper,

1964
01:51:42,840 --> 01:51:43,320
Adam Curry: the easy

1965
01:51:44,430 --> 01:51:45,360
John C Dvorak: ship them in

1966
01:51:46,230 --> 01:51:49,440
Adam Curry: curry Dvorak wood
chipper burials everybody come

1967
01:51:49,440 --> 01:51:52,800
on by we can do nice color do we
put food coloring in the

1968
01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:58,980
chipper? Do a rainbow LGBT chip.
Well that would cost extra we

1969
01:51:58,980 --> 01:52:01,350
can actually do a gender reveal

1970
01:52:03,210 --> 01:52:04,050
John C Dvorak: using the chip

1971
01:52:07,620 --> 01:52:11,130
Adam Curry: we have two
businesses. So and this is a

1972
01:52:11,130 --> 01:52:16,890
very climate friendly business
we have we do green burials. We

1973
01:52:16,890 --> 01:52:19,710
do it in a wood chipper which
spreads it out over of course

1974
01:52:19,710 --> 01:52:24,360
regenerative farming that's
right and but we don't have any

1975
01:52:24,360 --> 01:52:28,530
cows it's just for the land for
the for frogs we have here and

1976
01:52:28,530 --> 01:52:32,490
we can use that simultaneously
we we will color it either pink

1977
01:52:32,520 --> 01:52:39,870
or blue for your gender reveal
party and it's a nice arc I

1978
01:52:39,870 --> 01:52:41,580
think we're in business so small

1979
01:52:41,580 --> 01:52:47,490
John C Dvorak: a setup a small
stand low grandstand nearby Yes,

1980
01:52:47,520 --> 01:52:48,840
so people can watch

1981
01:52:49,170 --> 01:52:51,630
Adam Curry: and will stream it
we can stream it we have

1982
01:52:51,630 --> 01:52:55,410
John C Dvorak: a minister there
that can do last rites just in

1983
01:52:55,410 --> 01:52:56,400
front of the chipper

1984
01:52:56,580 --> 01:52:58,950
Adam Curry: you can do you can
have a wall and have the have

1985
01:52:58,980 --> 01:53:02,790
the gender reveal on one side
and you'd have the cheaper the

1986
01:53:02,820 --> 01:53:05,910
cheaper burial on the other just
coordination

1987
01:53:06,269 --> 01:53:08,159
John C Dvorak: you do to it to
say yeah, you could do two at

1988
01:53:08,159 --> 01:53:10,649
once to be interesting mixed
party.

1989
01:53:12,120 --> 01:53:13,500
Adam Curry: Well with that I'd
like to thank you for your

1990
01:53:13,500 --> 01:53:15,930
courage to in the morning to you
the man who put the sea and

1991
01:53:15,930 --> 01:53:18,330
clutch your pearls and hold your
crotch ladies and gentlemen say

1992
01:53:18,330 --> 01:53:21,870
hello to my friend on the other
end the One Only Mr. John Cena

1993
01:53:26,250 --> 01:53:27,630
John C Dvorak: Australian
recruiting the millennial ship

1994
01:53:27,630 --> 01:53:30,870
see boots on the ground feet
near subs in the water and all

1995
01:53:30,870 --> 01:53:32,250
the names and nights out there
and in

1996
01:53:32,250 --> 01:53:35,520
Adam Curry: the morning. Oh
trolls How you doing?

1997
01:53:40,680 --> 01:53:45,510
Again, were a buck 54 into a two
to six 320 263 Trolls so I think

1998
01:53:45,510 --> 01:53:47,610
we're doing okay, we're on par
for a Sunday.

1999
01:53:47,940 --> 01:53:49,740
John C Dvorak: No, we're too
under low here. But

2000
01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:52,710
Adam Curry: we're all we're more
than halfway through the show.

2001
01:53:53,610 --> 01:53:55,980
John C Dvorak: I believe 200
People would quit Oh

2002
01:53:55,980 --> 01:53:59,250
Adam Curry: yeah. Oh, are you
kidding me? Well, I kicked one

2003
01:53:59,250 --> 01:54:02,310
off myself so at least at least
one of them was gone.

2004
01:54:04,020 --> 01:54:06,510
John C Dvorak: Then he's always
kicking people off on the sly

2005
01:54:06,510 --> 01:54:06,780
not

2006
01:54:06,780 --> 01:54:11,310
Adam Curry: really the only this
one guy. He was kicked out Iron

2007
01:54:11,310 --> 01:54:14,700
Hide or something. He's a guy
that you know he's the guy like

2008
01:54:14,850 --> 01:54:21,360
you don't know anything about
gay that guy? Yeah, you can't

2009
01:54:21,360 --> 01:54:24,540
talk about trans issues because
you're not gay. I'm gay. I know

2010
01:54:24,540 --> 01:54:29,460
everything you know one of those
you remember the guy he's the

2011
01:54:29,460 --> 01:54:30,450
guy yeah, guys

2012
01:54:30,450 --> 01:54:33,780
John C Dvorak: gotta go if he'd
be banned permanently get his IP

2013
01:54:33,780 --> 01:54:34,380
address.

2014
01:54:34,590 --> 01:54:36,570
Adam Curry: But it's someone
took care of it. And I don't

2015
01:54:36,570 --> 01:54:39,480
know. Now he'll be back he'll be
valued and we welcome him back

2016
01:54:39,480 --> 01:54:41,730
if you can just behave just a
little

2017
01:54:41,730 --> 01:54:44,610
John C Dvorak: guys like that
can never behave has. That's too

2018
01:54:44,610 --> 01:54:45,630
bad. Hillary knows that.

2019
01:54:48,900 --> 01:54:51,750
Adam Curry: Anyway, if you can
behave a little bit it doesn't

2020
01:54:51,750 --> 01:54:54,780
actually have to be much I mean,
the bar is very low on the troll

2021
01:54:54,780 --> 01:54:59,250
room, but you're welcome to
join. Go to troll room.io Right

2022
01:54:59,250 --> 01:55:02,070
there you can listen to the no
agenda stream is 24/7. So you

2023
01:55:02,070 --> 01:55:04,950
don't even have to log in if you
don't want. But you can if you

2024
01:55:04,950 --> 01:55:07,500
want to be in the troll room,
it's kind of fun. Because

2025
01:55:07,500 --> 01:55:10,230
there's always something going
on and no agenda stream. There's

2026
01:55:10,260 --> 01:55:13,380
always something always lots of
live shows. But we got a live

2027
01:55:13,380 --> 01:55:16,140
show coming up after today's
show. I don't know. I mean, this

2028
01:55:16,140 --> 01:55:20,340
is it's almost a 24 hour a day
live radio station. And if you

2029
01:55:20,340 --> 01:55:22,590
don't like what you hear you
just you just go in there and

2030
01:55:22,620 --> 01:55:26,250
bitch and moan at the house. You
suck. That's what the troll room

2031
01:55:26,250 --> 01:55:29,460
was for. I mean, imagine a place
where you can do that. I mean,

2032
01:55:29,460 --> 01:55:31,860
it's not Hillary won't let you
do that. Because imagine you

2033
01:55:31,860 --> 01:55:34,680
just want to say what you want
to say that would be no good.

2034
01:55:35,280 --> 01:55:39,420
That'd be no good. No can't have
that. Now, you can also use a

2035
01:55:39,420 --> 01:55:42,960
modern podcast app to be
alerted. We get the bad signal

2036
01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:47,250
when when we start this thing
up, podcast guru pod verse, you

2037
01:55:47,250 --> 01:55:50,430
can listen live on a lot of the
apps including fountain all

2038
01:55:50,430 --> 01:55:53,580
these great new apps, which just
cannot be the platform no matter

2039
01:55:53,580 --> 01:55:56,040
what Canada thinks they're going
to do. You cannot get kicked off

2040
01:55:56,040 --> 01:55:59,190
with these apps. You just no
way. We've solidified that and

2041
01:55:59,190 --> 01:56:01,830
one day I shall receive a Nobel
Peace Prize for this for this

2042
01:56:01,830 --> 01:56:05,070
incredible work, which I did
none of it's a halt software

2043
01:56:05,070 --> 01:56:10,740
developers I didn't do any of it
you can of course follow us at

2044
01:56:10,830 --> 01:56:17,670
no agenda social.com which I
don't use some of the signal to

2045
01:56:17,670 --> 01:56:21,330
noise quality has gone down a
bit on no agenda social people

2046
01:56:21,330 --> 01:56:26,310
seem to be now there was another
dude like posting some guy with

2047
01:56:26,310 --> 01:56:30,390
this called progressive night
slot or something very creative

2048
01:56:30,390 --> 01:56:35,310
like that. And all he does is
post screenshots from Twitter

2049
01:56:36,360 --> 01:56:42,360
now and it's like who orders
everyone to ban meat like Dude,

2050
01:56:43,080 --> 01:56:46,950
please this is a fault and in
this screenshot even had a

2051
01:56:46,950 --> 01:56:51,420
little fact checked icon next to
it said sent sent me the link to

2052
01:56:51,420 --> 01:56:55,920
the story. First of all, don't
just post screenshots. It's

2053
01:56:55,920 --> 01:57:00,420
useless. You're just doing it
for your ego it's useless to a

2054
01:57:00,420 --> 01:57:05,130
post the link and it's just
stupid story. Like, like some

2055
01:57:05,130 --> 01:57:09,900
guy who was reading Bill Gates
his book and Bill Gates in that

2056
01:57:09,900 --> 01:57:13,980
book says this and therefore who
might say this it was had

2057
01:57:13,980 --> 01:57:18,090
nothing to do with the headline.
And it wasted eight minutes of

2058
01:57:18,090 --> 01:57:22,860
value your time valuable
research time. This place is no

2059
01:57:22,860 --> 01:57:26,580
agenda socialist supposed to be
for producers. If you just want

2060
01:57:26,580 --> 01:57:32,100
to jack off go to threads, blue
sky do stuff over there.

2061
01:57:32,130 --> 01:57:34,170
John C Dvorak: Mastodon dot
social Yeah, there you go.

2062
01:57:34,290 --> 01:57:35,850
That's where you can't see

2063
01:57:35,850 --> 01:57:37,380
Adam Curry: any of our stuff
because we're blocked

2064
01:57:37,380 --> 01:57:41,250
everywhere. Follow Adam at no
agenda social.com Or John seed

2065
01:57:41,250 --> 01:57:44,730
of where I can no agenda
social.com. This podcast, as you

2066
01:57:44,730 --> 01:57:47,910
probably noticed, has no
advertisements. We run

2067
01:57:47,910 --> 01:57:50,820
everything on value for value,
we are the OG of the value for

2068
01:57:50,820 --> 01:57:54,000
value. There's all kinds of
people who are claiming

2069
01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:56,280
ownership of value for value,
which is great. We love that

2070
01:57:56,280 --> 01:58:00,750
every one of us on the idea that
we love that every that the

2071
01:58:00,750 --> 01:58:04,230
ideas caught on because it is a
model that works. I mean, it's

2072
01:58:04,440 --> 01:58:08,460
it's not it's not it's scary.
You know, you have to you have

2073
01:58:08,460 --> 01:58:13,260
to work at it. You can't just
like you got to work. Because if

2074
01:58:13,260 --> 01:58:15,810
you don't work out if you're not
consistent, if you're not

2075
01:58:15,810 --> 01:58:18,540
reminding people if you're not
telling them what you have, and

2076
01:58:18,540 --> 01:58:22,860
if you don't ask for people to
support you. They won't. People

2077
01:58:22,860 --> 01:58:24,870
are freeloaders. So that's why I
don't

2078
01:58:24,900 --> 01:58:28,740
John C Dvorak: like the idea.
Though people are lazy to be

2079
01:58:28,740 --> 01:58:32,190
guilt tripped into it. Yeah. So
yeah, up to a few people that

2080
01:58:32,190 --> 01:58:35,940
really enjoy supporting the
show. Yeah, and there's a few

2081
01:58:36,570 --> 01:58:44,280
Adam Curry: it's about 3% of the
960,000 I think that listen to

2082
01:58:44,280 --> 01:58:46,830
the show on a monthly but what
do you what noises are you

2083
01:58:46,830 --> 01:58:47,850
making? And making

2084
01:58:47,850 --> 01:58:51,000
John C Dvorak: that man I don't
know if it's 3% that enjoy

2085
01:58:51,000 --> 01:58:54,720
supporting the show? I think
maybe less than one. I mean 3%

2086
01:58:54,750 --> 01:58:57,270
support this show, but they
don't enjoy it.

2087
01:58:58,260 --> 01:59:01,440
Adam Curry: They don't enjoy
supporting us. This is

2088
01:59:01,440 --> 01:59:02,730
begrudging what they do

2089
01:59:02,730 --> 01:59:04,620
John C Dvorak: or is it Yeah,
there you go. That's the word

2090
01:59:04,620 --> 01:59:05,400
you're looking for

2091
01:59:05,430 --> 01:59:08,550
Adam Curry: grudgingly support
the show. Well, we do appreciate

2092
01:59:08,550 --> 01:59:12,090
that. The good news is you can
support us with time talent or

2093
01:59:12,090 --> 01:59:16,710
treasurer and and really is the
time and talent portion that

2094
01:59:16,890 --> 01:59:20,100
you're doing this for your
fellow no agenda, nation people.

2095
01:59:20,100 --> 01:59:22,890
I mean, you are you are
producing the show everybody,

2096
01:59:22,890 --> 01:59:25,680
all three of the T's are
producing the show that

2097
01:59:25,680 --> 01:59:28,650
otherwise you know, we'd have to
go and work and do do something

2098
01:59:28,650 --> 01:59:32,310
for a living. So we can you
know, thanks to the support we

2099
01:59:32,310 --> 01:59:36,780
get we can we can get by living
the American dream. But when it

2100
01:59:36,780 --> 01:59:40,890
comes to time and talent, we
have artists who really have

2101
01:59:40,890 --> 01:59:44,490
been stepping up to the plate
after I complained about the

2102
01:59:44,490 --> 01:59:49,440
excessive use of artificial
intelligence. Oh, man, that Sam

2103
01:59:49,500 --> 01:59:56,670
Sam guy from open AI, what's his
name? Sam Altman, Sam Altman

2104
01:59:56,880 --> 02:00:01,230
yelman He's on Rogan, I started
listening. Yes. Today, oh my

2105
02:00:01,230 --> 02:00:05,220
god, the first well the first
five minutes like AI is was

2106
02:00:05,220 --> 02:00:08,940
going to we're going to have a
need for UBI because of AI AI is

2107
02:00:09,300 --> 02:00:10,710
always going to take away some
jobs so

2108
02:00:11,130 --> 02:00:13,380
John C Dvorak: is an AI freak?
lol

2109
02:00:13,410 --> 02:00:16,350
Adam Curry: Yeah, but he's he
says because of AI we're gonna

2110
02:00:16,350 --> 02:00:19,860
have to have UBI universal basic
income he kept saying that well

2111
02:00:19,860 --> 02:00:23,040
we'll need some kind of UBI but
really I want everyone to have

2112
02:00:23,040 --> 02:00:27,960
one 8 billion of the UBI
proceeds of the AI proceeds for

2113
02:00:27,960 --> 02:00:31,380
their UBI it's like, what are
you waffling about man?

2114
02:00:33,060 --> 02:00:35,430
John C Dvorak: Just do your job
and shut up about the politics

2115
02:00:35,430 --> 02:00:36,270
really?

2116
02:00:36,810 --> 02:00:40,380
Adam Curry: Alright, so anyway,
I don't And he's, I never

2117
02:00:40,380 --> 02:00:44,880
expected creativity to be first
the first success for AI. Wow.

2118
02:00:45,090 --> 02:00:48,870
So successful. Come back when
you can't do when you mean your

2119
02:00:48,900 --> 02:00:55,500
AI can do five fingers instead
of good luck. Show the fix. Fix

2120
02:00:55,500 --> 02:00:59,730
that form or elongated. Fix that
and then tell me how creative it

2121
02:00:59,730 --> 02:01:04,020
is. I can hear comments through
blogger pooping in his pants

2122
02:01:04,020 --> 02:01:07,530
right now. He's always pooping
his pants. So no agenda, our

2123
02:01:07,530 --> 02:01:10,650
generator.com is where the
artists upload, you can actually

2124
02:01:10,650 --> 02:01:13,860
refresh it in real time during
the show live if you want, you

2125
02:01:13,860 --> 02:01:16,800
can go back after the fact you
can participate by uploading to

2126
02:01:16,800 --> 02:01:20,790
it or again those modern
podcasts that podcast apps.com

2127
02:01:20,880 --> 02:01:24,450
They use Dred Scott does our
album art puts a lot of the

2128
02:01:24,450 --> 02:01:26,970
entrance in there that you
normally wouldn't see. And I

2129
02:01:26,970 --> 02:01:33,750
think now it works on Apple
CarPlay and Android Auto. So

2130
02:01:33,750 --> 02:01:36,300
while you're driving around,
you'll see the artwork change.

2131
02:01:36,450 --> 02:01:39,180
That's something that most
podcasts don't do. They're

2132
02:01:39,180 --> 02:01:42,810
boring, the same art with us,
like things are changing as the

2133
02:01:42,810 --> 02:01:45,750
topics change. And so you
probably saw Francisco

2134
02:01:45,750 --> 02:01:50,730
Scaramanga as artwork show up
for episode 15 9603 titled

2135
02:01:50,730 --> 02:01:54,450
flagger that's the European
Union new brown shirt word

2136
02:01:54,450 --> 02:01:58,410
flagger. I'm a content flagger
and get you arrested for being

2137
02:01:58,440 --> 02:02:05,730
illegal to not being kind for
hurting someone's feelings. And

2138
02:02:05,850 --> 02:02:10,560
it was a good piece. It was a
nice little chef with his

2139
02:02:10,560 --> 02:02:14,430
coffee. And he was had a kind of
he's kind of like a like a

2140
02:02:14,430 --> 02:02:17,370
worried look on his face and he
has a sign that says now

2141
02:02:17,370 --> 02:02:22,620
swapping staff for migrants and
it went perfectly well with the

2142
02:02:22,650 --> 02:02:26,880
with our talk about about the
migration replacement.

2143
02:02:27,269 --> 02:02:29,609
John C Dvorak: I like to cross
eyes. See that

2144
02:02:29,610 --> 02:02:32,400
Adam Curry: touch he does and
obviously, there were some I

2145
02:02:32,400 --> 02:02:34,980
kind of what we think we both
like Nico's Symes in the

2146
02:02:34,980 --> 02:02:40,620
morning. The cubist thing at
least I liked it. You like that

2147
02:02:40,620 --> 02:02:42,780
John C Dvorak: one? And kind of
go back here.

2148
02:02:42,780 --> 02:02:45,870
Adam Curry: Let me look like a
lot of pink. And I liked it. I

2149
02:02:45,870 --> 02:02:51,300
thought it was good. Yeah, it
was the yellow background. I

2150
02:02:51,300 --> 02:02:56,880
remember I liked it. So it's
like, second row right

2151
02:02:56,880 --> 02:03:01,410
underneath it right underneath
the great staff swap. Right

2152
02:03:01,410 --> 02:03:03,570
underneath it. Are you do you
even have a browser open?

2153
02:03:03,660 --> 02:03:05,130
John C Dvorak: And I'm gonna get
the browser up.

2154
02:03:06,630 --> 02:03:07,590
Adam Curry: Are you even on the
show?

2155
02:03:07,620 --> 02:03:11,220
John C Dvorak: Right. Oh, that
thing in the morning. I didn't

2156
02:03:11,220 --> 02:03:12,030
dislike it.

2157
02:03:12,060 --> 02:03:13,350
Adam Curry: I'd like I thought
it was clean. I

2158
02:03:13,350 --> 02:03:15,420
John C Dvorak: don't remember
you even mentioning it during

2159
02:03:15,420 --> 02:03:16,380
the discussion.

2160
02:03:16,500 --> 02:03:18,960
Adam Curry: So you don't even
listen to me anymore. I listened

2161
02:03:18,960 --> 02:03:23,130
to we both there was also an e
cosine. We both like the

2162
02:03:23,130 --> 02:03:27,120
approved flagger but it wasn't
that great. It was okay. Yeah,

2163
02:03:27,120 --> 02:03:27,330
we've

2164
02:03:27,330 --> 02:03:29,190
John C Dvorak: had similar
things. It also looks like one

2165
02:03:29,190 --> 02:03:30,180
of our mugs.

2166
02:03:30,420 --> 02:03:33,210
Adam Curry: You like the dame
Kenny been eaten alive with a

2167
02:03:33,210 --> 02:03:38,310
bedbug? munching on the toe? The
toe? That was close second. I

2168
02:03:38,310 --> 02:03:43,740
liked the one underneath it.
Correct to record? The Olympics.

2169
02:03:43,740 --> 02:03:46,980
Yeah, I liked that one. was a
nice piece. I like that because

2170
02:03:46,980 --> 02:03:49,890
I know it would pop with a white
background. And I like kind of

2171
02:03:49,890 --> 02:03:50,130
Yeah,

2172
02:03:50,130 --> 02:03:52,230
John C Dvorak: that would look
good on though. Yes. I would

2173
02:03:53,310 --> 02:03:57,120
like NGO air which you hated the
NGO air with it. Because you

2174
02:03:57,120 --> 02:03:58,890
didn't recognize the Corvette?
No, I

2175
02:03:58,890 --> 02:04:01,470
Adam Curry: said it was a court.
Yes, it why is the Corvette in

2176
02:04:01,470 --> 02:04:04,440
there? I recognize that as a
Corvette. I understand why it

2177
02:04:04,440 --> 02:04:05,940
was as why was a Corvette?

2178
02:04:06,420 --> 02:04:09,180
John C Dvorak: Well, I mean, it
was also Biden's Corvette. By

2179
02:04:09,180 --> 02:04:09,990
the way. I have

2180
02:04:10,020 --> 02:04:12,690
Adam Curry: boots on the ground
bedbugs report since this is the

2181
02:04:12,690 --> 02:04:15,180
donation segment. Let's do it
right now. All right, here's

2182
02:04:15,180 --> 02:04:18,480
what you're missing about
bedbugs in France. There's very

2183
02:04:18,480 --> 02:04:22,380
few people who knew more about
bedbugs than me. Is this a great

2184
02:04:22,380 --> 02:04:26,280
podcast or was our guy I have a
business that helps landlords

2185
02:04:26,280 --> 02:04:29,610
hotels, dorms, retirement
communities, etc. Monitor for

2186
02:04:29,610 --> 02:04:34,620
infesting pets pests such as
roaches and bedbugs. Early

2187
02:04:34,620 --> 02:04:37,920
detection is key and saving
hassle costs and rely and

2188
02:04:37,920 --> 02:04:40,830
liability regarding these pests.
So here's what you're missing.

2189
02:04:41,070 --> 02:04:44,910
Paris is not exclusive to this
problem. Yes, we know ASA in

2190
02:04:44,910 --> 02:04:48,180
Paris. It's one in eight
residences in New York City.

2191
02:04:48,330 --> 02:04:51,900
Almost one in 11 residences is
hit with bedbugs just this past

2192
02:04:51,900 --> 02:04:56,100
year. In the US we nearly
eradicated bedbugs back in the

2193
02:04:56,100 --> 02:05:02,130
50s with excessive use of DDT,
which was banned The 1972 And I

2194
02:05:02,130 --> 02:05:05,130
think you and I are both on the
same page that the DDT ban was

2195
02:05:05,130 --> 02:05:09,150
stupid. And people still to this
day believe that that cat causes

2196
02:05:09,180 --> 02:05:13,170
cancer. Would you say that we
are on the same page about that?

2197
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John C Dvorak: Kind of but they
did. I think there's the, at

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least for me the jury's out on
whether it caused the a certain

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birds to the pellet shells, the
Pelican or Pelican, yeah,

2200
02:05:26,400 --> 02:05:28,590
Adam Curry: that to get rid of
it because of the pelican. And

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you know, Tina ran behind the
DDT truck when she was a kid

2202
02:05:31,530 --> 02:05:34,620
getting all all dusted up and
she's still fine.

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02:05:36,000 --> 02:05:38,430
John C Dvorak: Well, there was a
guy in San Jose, who is a

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02:05:38,430 --> 02:05:41,850
professor, I think, says he ate
it. drank it,

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02:05:41,910 --> 02:05:46,080
Adam Curry: drank it, he ate it.
Yeah, exactly. In the US, we

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02:05:46,080 --> 02:05:48,840
still have easy access to
pesticides that are effective in

2207
02:05:48,840 --> 02:05:52,620
fighting back bedbugs and no
agenda pro tip pro tip. Here we

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02:05:52,620 --> 02:05:56,400
go. The pesticide you want to
get rid of bedbugs is called

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02:05:56,400 --> 02:06:00,660
Crossfire and can be picked up
in nearly any hardware store

2210
02:06:00,660 --> 02:06:04,050
over the counter. Even walmart
or amazon. It's the same

2211
02:06:04,050 --> 02:06:08,490
pesticide the pros use. There's
a tip crossfire

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02:06:08,520 --> 02:06:10,440
John C Dvorak: that you heard of
this product. I've heard a

2213
02:06:10,440 --> 02:06:12,330
crossfire hurricane. Yeah,

2214
02:06:12,360 --> 02:06:16,710
Adam Curry: well now you know.
In France, EU rules banned such

2215
02:06:16,710 --> 02:06:20,520
pesticides. EU countries do not
have the same access to

2216
02:06:20,520 --> 02:06:23,400
effective pesticides we have
here. There's a very lucrative

2217
02:06:23,400 --> 02:06:26,400
black market smuggling past the
pesticides available off the

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02:06:26,400 --> 02:06:32,280
shelf from Home Depot into these
countries. Wow. Another curry

2219
02:06:32,280 --> 02:06:37,710
DEVAR Consulting Group business
exit strategy. EU rules live the

2220
02:06:37,710 --> 02:06:41,040
only effective solution for
bedbugs to be heat treatments.

2221
02:06:41,820 --> 02:06:46,890
Heating entire buildings up to
118 degrees Fahrenheit for 90

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02:06:46,890 --> 02:06:51,450
minutes kills bed bugs and their
eggs. This is very expensive and

2223
02:06:51,450 --> 02:06:54,450
sometimes impractical to do.
Especially with old buildings.

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02:06:54,450 --> 02:06:57,210
The high density living and
aggressive movement of bedbugs

2225
02:06:57,210 --> 02:07:00,390
just means it's a matter of time
before reinfestation occurs

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02:07:00,390 --> 02:07:03,150
after heat treatment. heat
treatments offer no residual

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02:07:03,150 --> 02:07:06,810
protection, and so they just
move right back in. bedbugs are

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02:07:06,810 --> 02:07:10,710
not new to Paris in 2020.
Benjamin Greevil ran for mayor

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02:07:10,710 --> 02:07:14,580
under the IDEA to rid Paris of
bedbugs in 100 days and then

2230
02:07:14,580 --> 02:07:19,830
resign. Well, that's not Melton,
a free pony. He likely would

2231
02:07:19,830 --> 02:07:22,500
have won if it wasn't for a
pesky sex tape scandal that

2232
02:07:22,500 --> 02:07:28,590
ruined his run. You go future
stories about people. Future

2233
02:07:28,590 --> 02:07:31,140
stories about EU countries will
involve will involve

2234
02:07:31,140 --> 02:07:35,730
cockroaches, mice and rats, as
poison baits for these pests

2235
02:07:35,730 --> 02:07:39,420
have also been banned in the EU.
Ha.

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02:07:40,200 --> 02:07:43,770
John C Dvorak: So here's the
scenario. The rats, the

2237
02:07:43,770 --> 02:07:47,160
cockroaches and the and the mice
all be because of climate

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02:07:47,160 --> 02:07:47,760
change.

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02:07:47,880 --> 02:07:50,430
Adam Curry: You bet. I said it
again tonight.

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02:07:51,000 --> 02:07:52,470
John C Dvorak: You said you
better you better believe in

2241
02:07:52,470 --> 02:07:55,380
saying you bet a lot better
believe it better believe it.

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02:07:56,340 --> 02:07:59,580
Yes. I'm gonna change you judge
you're putting your mind instead

2243
02:07:59,580 --> 02:08:02,520
of saying you bet say yep, yep.
Yep.

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02:08:03,870 --> 02:08:08,310
Adam Curry: That's not annoying.
Yep, yep. Yep. Yep, yep, yep,

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02:08:08,310 --> 02:08:11,520
givers. Okay, you got it. I'll
do that. We'll see how long it

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02:08:11,520 --> 02:08:16,590
is before you get on my butt
about that. So back to the

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02:08:16,590 --> 02:08:19,350
artwork. Thank you very much
producer good work. That's it.

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02:08:19,470 --> 02:08:24,180
That's mean Crossfire, we
learned something here. To us. I

2249
02:08:24,180 --> 02:08:25,050
don't think there was a

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02:08:25,110 --> 02:08:26,670
John C Dvorak: you know, if you
don't listen to the no agenda,

2251
02:08:26,670 --> 02:08:31,290
if you don't get something you
learn about something pragmatic

2252
02:08:31,350 --> 02:08:34,680
from every no agenda show.
You're not listening carefully.

2253
02:08:35,850 --> 02:08:36,270
Yeah,

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02:08:36,990 --> 02:08:40,680
Adam Curry: you probably should
just go away. Probably shouldn't

2255
02:08:40,680 --> 02:08:41,280
be listening.

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02:08:42,120 --> 02:08:43,530
John C Dvorak: Just donate and
go away.

2257
02:08:45,300 --> 02:08:47,670
Adam Curry: Thank you very much,
Francisco. Scaramanga thank you

2258
02:08:47,670 --> 02:08:52,200
to all of the no agenda artists
who diligently supported us with

2259
02:08:52,200 --> 02:08:54,570
their time and their talent. All
of it, of course, is

2260
02:08:54,570 --> 02:08:58,560
appreciated. We're happy to
provide critique when possible,

2261
02:08:58,560 --> 02:09:00,870
but we also use a lot of these
for different things. As I said,

2262
02:09:01,020 --> 02:09:04,650
you can find them in the chapter
art more often than not, thanks

2263
02:09:04,650 --> 02:09:07,320
to the work of Dred Scott and
these modern podcast apps. Now

2264
02:09:07,320 --> 02:09:10,650
we go to the treasure portion.
We'd love to thank our executive

2265
02:09:10,650 --> 02:09:13,620
and Associate Executive
producers who come in with above

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02:09:13,620 --> 02:09:17,220
200 or respectfully $300 for
each episode. This really is

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02:09:17,220 --> 02:09:21,300
what makes the show we had a
special special number today as

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02:09:21,300 --> 02:09:26,790
numerology matters and no agenda
nation. 1597 is a Fibonacci

2269
02:09:26,790 --> 02:09:30,060
number. It's the top of the
curve of the of the shell. I

2270
02:09:30,060 --> 02:09:33,060
guess what exactly? Maybe you
can explain it better than I can

2271
02:09:33,060 --> 02:09:35,820
since you I can't explain it.
You ran the promotion.

2272
02:09:36,870 --> 02:09:40,200
John C Dvorak: Well, yes, the
woman who is listed here Laura

2273
02:09:40,200 --> 02:09:46,680
moody, she's now a dame had to
drag you down because you put

2274
02:09:46,680 --> 02:09:51,000
the Fibonacci numbers into a
sheet you get the golden ratio

2275
02:09:51,630 --> 02:09:54,300
comes around because of this
Fibonacci numbers no matter

2276
02:09:54,300 --> 02:09:58,680
which numbers you use in the
sequence. And of course, the

2277
02:09:58,680 --> 02:10:01,590
Fibonacci numbers where you add
A lot of you is a series of

2278
02:10:01,590 --> 02:10:07,440
numbers starting with zero and
you add the next number to this

2279
02:10:07,470 --> 02:10:11,160
first numbers. Zero plus one is
one that so the next Fibonacci

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02:10:11,160 --> 02:10:15,810
numbers one and then the end you
add one one, you get two that's

2281
02:10:15,810 --> 02:10:18,960
22 and one you get three that's
the Fibonacci number. Two and

2282
02:10:18,960 --> 02:10:23,340
three and five, and five, and
three is eight and eight goes on

2283
02:10:23,340 --> 02:10:26,370
and on and on until you get to
these huge numbers which we have

2284
02:10:27,720 --> 02:10:32,280
today, which is Fibonacci number
1597. And that won't be another

2285
02:10:32,280 --> 02:10:37,620
one until I think then the 2000
Somethings will be dead. Well,

2286
02:10:37,620 --> 02:10:40,200
would the show be done the show
will be done by should be the

2287
02:10:40,200 --> 02:10:41,040
last Fibonacci

2288
02:10:41,760 --> 02:10:44,610
Adam Curry: the last Fibonacci
Fibonacci number show no sad to

2289
02:10:44,610 --> 02:10:48,450
see you go Fibonacci. So we
celebrate the Baron of

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02:10:48,450 --> 02:10:51,210
backwardation Winter Park,
Florida who I think should get a

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02:10:51,210 --> 02:10:56,640
special Fibonacci title because
the Baron of Fibonacci club Yep,

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02:10:56,670 --> 02:11:04,110
Fibonacci club came in with 1597
exactly the show number donation

2293
02:11:04,230 --> 02:11:07,020
and the Fibonacci number club in
the morning he says from barren

2294
02:11:07,020 --> 02:11:12,330
backwardation, backwardation,
backwardation of contango show

2295
02:11:12,330 --> 02:11:14,970
number donation this should also
trigger a title change Oh, it's

2296
02:11:14,970 --> 02:11:17,610
even better. I would like to be
known as the Duke of Central

2297
02:11:17,610 --> 02:11:21,420
Florida. Granted, thanks to you
guys and the great producers you

2298
02:11:21,450 --> 02:11:24,990
have supporting the show. We
thank you so much Baron, and

2299
02:11:25,020 --> 02:11:29,940
enjoy this special Fibonacci
will be a Fibonacci Duke. Very

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02:11:29,940 --> 02:11:33,960
special, never never happening
in double jeopardy. I have no

2301
02:11:33,990 --> 02:11:34,560
never be

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02:11:34,620 --> 02:11:37,710
John C Dvorak: back to the old
Fibonacci numbers. Laura Moody's

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02:11:37,740 --> 02:11:39,900
next and she's in Buckley,
Washington. She's the one who

2304
02:11:39,900 --> 02:11:42,930
drew the little drawing that was
in the newsletter that showed

2305
02:11:42,930 --> 02:11:49,020
the golden ratio. And she came
in with $1,123.58 is the note no

2306
02:11:49,020 --> 02:11:51,660
dig came in to show before but
she wanted to say no, no, no, I

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02:11:51,660 --> 02:11:54,630
want to be on that Fibonacci
show. Okay, so she has Thank

2308
02:11:54,630 --> 02:11:58,320
you. I love the show. Keep
covering Africa. Yeah, we'll do

2309
02:11:58,320 --> 02:12:01,800
that. No, no problem. We'll do
it. No problemo. When I heard

2310
02:12:01,800 --> 02:12:04,380
about the special numbers for
donations I thought about making

2311
02:12:04,380 --> 02:12:08,070
a Fibonacci donation using the
first number in the series. I'd

2312
02:12:08,070 --> 02:12:10,920
like to be an executive producer
and I get knighted the next time

2313
02:12:11,220 --> 02:12:14,310
the show number is a Fibonacci
number. That will never happen.

2314
02:12:14,820 --> 02:12:19,890
If I miss show 1597 I have to
wait to show 2584 That would be

2315
02:12:19,890 --> 02:12:25,110
the next 1000 shows from now. So
I try to get get this point in

2316
02:12:25,110 --> 02:12:28,980
time I'd like to my title be
damned Laura of the golden mean

2317
02:12:29,040 --> 02:12:30,360
you guys so de douching

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02:12:32,130 --> 02:12:33,990
Unknown: you've been de deuced

2319
02:12:34,740 --> 02:12:36,270
John C Dvorak: regards Laura
moody.

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02:12:36,540 --> 02:12:38,760
Adam Curry: Thank you very much
for your great idea. Thanks for

2321
02:12:38,760 --> 02:12:40,470
alerting us that we appreciate
it.

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02:12:41,910 --> 02:12:43,890
John C Dvorak: As a matter of
fact, if she hadn't had done

2323
02:12:43,890 --> 02:12:47,640
that to Fibonacci number would
have come and gone without us

2324
02:12:47,640 --> 02:12:48,150
even knowing

2325
02:12:48,150 --> 02:12:51,180
Adam Curry: we would have been
very sad about that. Very sad

2326
02:12:51,180 --> 02:12:53,790
because you know people always
Hey, man, you missed a

2327
02:12:53,790 --> 02:12:55,170
compliment they know after

2328
02:12:55,170 --> 02:12:57,180
John C Dvorak: the fact I can't
believe you missed the

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02:12:57,180 --> 02:12:57,930
Fibonacci.

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02:13:00,240 --> 02:13:04,380
Adam Curry: That's the kind of
stuff we love hearing. Jan

2331
02:13:04,380 --> 02:13:10,050
demand also known as young to
mum, Indigo faina bell here,

2332
02:13:10,080 --> 02:13:15,210
Belgium. 500 ITM boys, I drop
another donation today and

2333
02:13:15,210 --> 02:13:17,880
barring any glitches in the back
office, this should lift us

2334
02:13:17,880 --> 02:13:21,060
well, overnight hood, please
switch through this 500 To my

2335
02:13:21,060 --> 02:13:25,620
smokin hot Sri Lankan wife, who
will be 50 years old tomorrow,

2336
02:13:25,620 --> 02:13:30,390
the ninth of October. Done.
We've been together for 15 years

2337
02:13:30,480 --> 02:13:34,560
and we never had a fight. I'd
make her listen to your soothing

2338
02:13:34,560 --> 02:13:37,410
voices in the car but her
amygdala is already so small she

2339
02:13:37,410 --> 02:13:44,400
just dozes off most types.
Please Dame her Dame Gennaro

2340
02:13:44,400 --> 02:13:48,900
Anthony of the Ceylon spices and
she would love some Pinot Noir

2341
02:13:48,900 --> 02:13:52,770
and Papademos poppadoms
poppadoms what a poppadoms I

2342
02:13:52,770 --> 02:13:54,240
don't know poppadoms

2343
02:13:54,389 --> 02:13:56,519
John C Dvorak: something
probably some Sri Lankan

2344
02:13:56,519 --> 02:13:57,989
specialties may guess

2345
02:13:58,049 --> 02:14:00,149
Adam Curry: I just got to put
the order in homeless I can can

2346
02:14:00,149 --> 02:14:05,399
we get it Guys can you get the
PAP at home see you poppadoms

2347
02:14:05,399 --> 02:14:09,089
are on the way thanks for all
you do love your show no jingles

2348
02:14:09,089 --> 02:14:12,329
no karma young the mountain from
Tico vana Bell him belt here

2349
02:14:12,359 --> 02:14:17,219
Belgium you got it and I am
changing that switcheroo as we

2350
02:14:17,249 --> 02:14:17,939
speak.

2351
02:14:18,540 --> 02:14:20,430
John C Dvorak: Yeah also check
for admission she's on the

2352
02:14:20,430 --> 02:14:23,790
birthday lists are infinite if
you would start infinitum and

2353
02:14:23,790 --> 02:14:30,090
Holly Springs North Carolina
377. ITM and greetings Fibonacci

2354
02:14:30,090 --> 02:14:33,240
show donation for the best
podcast in the universe from

2355
02:14:33,240 --> 02:14:40,950
show from Sir infinitas and
infinitum medical.com. That's

2356
02:14:40,950 --> 02:14:45,870
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2359
02:14:53,220 --> 02:14:55,230
Unknown: You've been de deuced

2360
02:14:55,470 --> 02:14:59,040
John C Dvorak: as well as an F
35 Karma along with legal karma

2361
02:14:59,040 --> 02:15:03,390
as we have found We had enough
about something. God bless you

2362
02:15:03,390 --> 02:15:04,890
both for what you do cheers

2363
02:15:04,950 --> 02:15:05,820
Adam Curry: now you got it.

2364
02:15:08,010 --> 02:15:12,300
Unknown: You've got karma

2365
02:15:16,080 --> 02:15:19,740
Adam Curry: Thank you, sir.
infinitas Todd Hedeman Esmond.

2366
02:15:19,740 --> 02:15:23,580
He's a man hasn't been new hope
Minnesota 366 no agenda never

2367
02:15:23,580 --> 02:15:29,730
disappoints, deduce me, please.
You've been de deuced and that's

2368
02:15:29,730 --> 02:15:32,100
because this is my first
donation since my monthly

2369
02:15:32,100 --> 02:15:35,490
donations inexplicably stopped
two and a half years ago. Yeah,

2370
02:15:35,490 --> 02:15:38,580
PayPal does that from time to
time. So just don't just

2371
02:15:38,610 --> 02:15:42,690
decouple you from us. Yeah, you
got to check Yeah, you do have

2372
02:15:42,690 --> 02:15:46,110
to check regularly because that
PayPal does it I don't know if

2373
02:15:46,110 --> 02:15:48,510
John C Dvorak: you if your
credit card changes or the date

2374
02:15:48,510 --> 02:15:51,120
changes on your credit card or
you get a new one every couple

2375
02:15:51,120 --> 02:15:54,510
of years you will not be
donating to us anymore. You have

2376
02:15:54,510 --> 02:15:56,970
to go read stablished
connections that

2377
02:15:56,970 --> 02:15:59,130
Adam Curry: would take a trigger
set a new credit I think most of

2378
02:15:59,130 --> 02:16:01,950
is triggered by credit card
changes. Oh, that makes sense. I

2379
02:16:01,950 --> 02:16:04,500
guess Yeah. Too bad.

2380
02:16:05,550 --> 02:16:09,870
John C Dvorak: And we haven't
set up so they don't try it you

2381
02:16:09,870 --> 02:16:13,470
know a lot of these guys who are
scammers. He wants you to

2382
02:16:13,470 --> 02:16:16,140
subscribe to something and then
your credit card change they'll

2383
02:16:16,470 --> 02:16:19,440
they'll find your new number and
they will lock you in so you can

2384
02:16:19,440 --> 02:16:22,350
they just harmless impossible to
get off of it. No, we have

2385
02:16:22,560 --> 02:16:23,880
automatic disconnect.

2386
02:16:25,110 --> 02:16:26,010
Adam Curry: Oh, that's kind of
good, I

2387
02:16:26,010 --> 02:16:30,270
John C Dvorak: guess. Well, it's
good for the people that are

2388
02:16:30,270 --> 02:16:34,800
donating not good for us. I
mean, it's good for us if they

2389
02:16:34,800 --> 02:16:38,430
go back and notice Yeah, Ed Code
is up next by the way he's in

2390
02:16:38,430 --> 02:16:42,960
Summit New Jersey 33334 He's got
no note no nothing. So he gets a

2391
02:16:42,960 --> 02:16:44,850
double up karma. Sure does.

2392
02:16:45,180 --> 02:16:46,020
Unknown: You've got

2393
02:16:50,700 --> 02:16:55,500
Adam Curry: Jodi Atkinson in
Park City Utah 333 to 33 ATM

2394
02:16:55,500 --> 02:16:58,590
John I'm just donation is
honored my wonderful dog Callie

2395
02:16:58,590 --> 02:17:03,690
ah another dog donation. Now Oh,
Kelly would have been seven on

2396
02:17:03,960 --> 02:17:07,890
October 9. I had to put Callie
to sleep on August 23. As my

2397
02:17:07,890 --> 02:17:11,190
sister Jill price mentioned in a
previous donation. Oh, okay.

2398
02:17:11,940 --> 02:17:14,880
Callie was like my third child
and we went through a lot

2399
02:17:14,880 --> 02:17:17,970
together. We were there for each
other during the COVID Insanity

2400
02:17:17,970 --> 02:17:20,190
and the many health issues she
struggled with over the last

2401
02:17:20,190 --> 02:17:24,210
three years including epilepsy
and three hip surgeries. By the

2402
02:17:24,210 --> 02:17:28,200
way, I heard from our our vet
he's he's a real vet like does

2403
02:17:28,200 --> 02:17:32,190
cows and stuff. He says there's
monoclonal antibodies now that

2404
02:17:32,190 --> 02:17:36,630
can they can fix that on cats
and dogs that were the hips go

2405
02:17:37,140 --> 02:17:38,250
on a week.

2406
02:17:38,820 --> 02:17:41,130
John C Dvorak: Oh, that's crazy.
I think they are.

2407
02:17:41,820 --> 02:17:44,760
Adam Curry: We listen to you.
Our friends in the car hiking

2408
02:17:44,790 --> 02:17:47,880
cross country skiing during her
recoveries. Now she's gone. I'm

2409
02:17:47,880 --> 02:17:51,180
an empty nester as my youngest
human resource is a freshman in

2410
02:17:51,180 --> 02:17:53,940
college. Thankfully, I have you
both to help me through this

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02:17:53,940 --> 02:17:58,530
difficult time. And a heart
emoji this donation gives me a

2412
02:17:58,530 --> 02:18:01,560
seat at the roundtable please
does meet dame of the skiing

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02:18:01,560 --> 02:18:06,180
dogs. I would like a nice grass
fed Texas steak with a bottle of

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02:18:06,210 --> 02:18:10,860
Opus One You bet. Got some can
see cattle for you right here.

2415
02:18:11,460 --> 02:18:15,450
ribeye also some jobs karma for
my other human resource who

2416
02:18:15,450 --> 02:18:18,030
recently graduated from college
thank you for your courage

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02:18:18,060 --> 02:18:22,560
friends, cheers to you and
cheers to you on a second

2418
02:18:22,560 --> 02:18:24,720
where's my jobs? Here's the jobs
karma,

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02:18:25,020 --> 02:18:32,670
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs. That's karma.

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02:18:34,410 --> 02:18:38,160
John C Dvorak: Now we have a
couple of people that had no

2421
02:18:38,160 --> 02:18:41,640
notes and Cloney starting with
via account sir crash EMT or

2422
02:18:41,640 --> 02:18:45,930
buddy and Holly Springs, North
Carolina 33333. So give him a

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02:18:45,930 --> 02:18:49,590
double up karma is gone and
right.

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02:18:51,420 --> 02:18:53,760
Unknown: Karma right after him

2425
02:18:53,760 --> 02:18:57,930
John C Dvorak: is Ruben a
Schwebel Schwebel in Jerusalem,

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02:18:57,960 --> 02:19:09,870
Illinois at three three give him
a double sandwich so he has a

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02:19:09,870 --> 02:19:13,500
reuben sandwich because Dame G
money in Dallas Texas really

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02:19:14,280 --> 02:19:20,670
33333 and all she says is the
note of the day Viva no agenda.

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02:19:21,180 --> 02:19:21,960
Viva no

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02:19:21,960 --> 02:19:26,040
Adam Curry: agenda indeed. Thank
you James. David G money Jayco

2431
02:19:26,040 --> 02:19:30,660
colors and Jefferson Iowa 333 in
the morning to Yeah, thank you

2432
02:19:30,660 --> 02:19:34,110
for what you do. I'd like to
call out jar Jared Barr who hit

2433
02:19:34,110 --> 02:19:37,710
me in the mouth and Levi Park as
douchebags. Oh, okay, here's

2434
02:19:37,740 --> 02:19:45,180
Jared. And here's Levi. Not sure
if they've ever donated before.

2435
02:19:45,180 --> 02:19:47,640
Well, I hope you're right
because you know, douche bagging

2436
02:19:47,640 --> 02:19:51,000
someone who's donated as a
severe fence. I have not heard

2437
02:19:51,000 --> 02:19:53,190
their names called since I
started listening short after

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02:19:53,190 --> 02:19:58,050
the January. He says January 8
insurrection. This is an

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02:19:58,050 --> 02:20:03,210
insurrection I'm not important.
It was it was worse than Pearl

2440
02:20:03,210 --> 02:20:06,540
Harbor. What I don't remember
the date. I do listen for the

2441
02:20:06,540 --> 02:20:10,500
bonus content during this time
as everyone should indeed, and

2442
02:20:10,500 --> 02:20:13,950
we had a good bedbugs tip that
most people who didn't love it

2443
02:20:13,950 --> 02:20:17,100
didn't listen. They didn't get
it. Let me check. Let me check.

2444
02:20:18,990 --> 02:20:23,550
Oh, about 400 people dropped off
well, bedbugs too. You

2445
02:20:25,020 --> 02:20:25,920
John C Dvorak: really missed
out.

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02:20:26,400 --> 02:20:29,490
Adam Curry: This will be a new
reading. Hey, bedbugs to you,

2447
02:20:29,490 --> 02:20:32,910
bro. You didn't You didn't hear
and don't tell him. Please don't

2448
02:20:32,910 --> 02:20:35,850
tell me when the secret how to
do it either. Kind of get rid of

2449
02:20:35,850 --> 02:20:40,080
him. Ah. I would appreciate some
small business commerce, my new

2450
02:20:40,080 --> 02:20:43,710
business ventures and buying a
building for my jujitsu gym. No

2451
02:20:43,710 --> 02:20:47,550
Coast Jefferson located in
Jefferson, Iowa. For jingles. I

2452
02:20:47,550 --> 02:20:50,850
would like respect, and I would
like some Shut up slave. You got

2453
02:20:55,290 --> 02:20:59,880
ESPN IICT slave and he says
thank you for your courage and

2454
02:20:59,880 --> 02:21:01,050
thank you very much Jacob.

2455
02:21:01,650 --> 02:21:05,070
John C Dvorak: Johnny. Oh,
Johnny. Oh, and East Dubuque.

2456
02:21:05,880 --> 02:21:09,630
Illinois in the Morning guys
going to keep this note short.

2457
02:21:09,810 --> 02:21:14,700
Taylor Swift let me know who
storms out of the troll room

2458
02:21:16,440 --> 02:21:17,790
Adam Curry: no rage quit yet.

2459
02:21:19,260 --> 02:21:26,610
John C Dvorak: The priority
gone? Taylor's with a second.

2460
02:21:27,240 --> 02:21:31,470
Now good Sir Michael. He's in
Snohomish, Washington that

2461
02:21:31,470 --> 02:21:34,830
little town. Yeah, I'm looking
for shingles. He was buying a

2462
02:21:34,830 --> 02:21:38,130
whole load felt something hot on
my legs and yet karma that was

2463
02:21:38,130 --> 02:21:41,460
hurting shingles. In the last
show. Please send travel karma

2464
02:21:41,460 --> 02:21:44,820
for clear mountain passes as my
family and I wrap up a six week

2465
02:21:44,820 --> 02:21:49,860
tour of the Mountain West. Sir
Michael Black Knight of the

2466
02:21:49,860 --> 02:21:54,030
dudes named Ben in Snohomish.
You got it. I'm gonna give you

2467
02:21:54,030 --> 02:22:01,770
the whole load did I just felt
something hot on my legs got

2468
02:22:02,250 --> 02:22:03,060
worse.

2469
02:22:05,910 --> 02:22:09,540
Adam Curry: I want to play that
again. I just felt something hot

2470
02:22:09,630 --> 02:22:16,260
on my legs a great ISO dynamite.
Darius Gandhi, Santa Monica,

2471
02:22:16,260 --> 02:22:20,340
California 333. And dairy says
in the morning to the amazing

2472
02:22:20,340 --> 02:22:23,520
women Tina and Mimi who support
alongside the great men, Adam

2473
02:22:23,520 --> 02:22:27,330
and John. Well, how about that?
Don't worry, they don't listen

2474
02:22:27,330 --> 02:22:29,820
to the donation segment for the
show.

2475
02:22:31,800 --> 02:22:34,500
John C Dvorak: I will say this
Mimi groused at me she says

2476
02:22:34,500 --> 02:22:37,650
you're gonna listen to the show.
I'm gonna listen to the show. So

2477
02:22:37,650 --> 02:22:39,420
you better plug the book.

2478
02:22:39,510 --> 02:22:40,590
Adam Curry: Oh, plug the book.

2479
02:22:40,980 --> 02:22:44,220
John C Dvorak: Yeah, no way I
did too many eggs.com and go get

2480
02:22:44,220 --> 02:22:48,120
a free copies a PDF file and you
can also buy giant a big giant

2481
02:22:48,120 --> 02:22:51,600
book 800 pages. It's a great
gift.

2482
02:22:52,200 --> 02:22:55,080
Adam Curry: Then, of course Tina
does listen so I'm going to plug

2483
02:22:55,080 --> 02:22:58,860
her podcast which I am just the
producer Korean the keeper.com

2484
02:22:59,160 --> 02:23:03,120
There you go. We've done our
duties. I made a personal pact

2485
02:23:03,120 --> 02:23:06,390
to myself and JCD to keep my
donations quiet allowing us to

2486
02:23:06,390 --> 02:23:09,330
keep the show moving swiftly.
But sometimes I have to chime in

2487
02:23:09,360 --> 02:23:14,070
chime in. And our episode 1596
Adams NGO deep dive was nothing

2488
02:23:14,070 --> 02:23:24,540
short of spectacular. I got
chills. Killer. It was like

2489
02:23:24,540 --> 02:23:32,730
watching a master puzzle solver
at work. You got a corner. I can

2490
02:23:32,730 --> 02:23:33,510
fit this piece.

2491
02:23:33,930 --> 02:23:37,230
John C Dvorak: I actually looks
like a piece of the sky is

2492
02:23:37,230 --> 02:23:37,800
exactly

2493
02:23:37,800 --> 02:23:40,740
Adam Curry: like a piece of the
sky. I absolutely love when Adam

2494
02:23:40,740 --> 02:23:43,380
does deep dives like this. It's
like he's weaving together all

2495
02:23:43,380 --> 02:23:45,840
the pieces of a mystery and
solving it all right in front of

2496
02:23:45,840 --> 02:23:49,440
you in a succinct and eloquent
way. Truly a job well done. Well

2497
02:23:49,440 --> 02:23:50,970
that's very kind of you to say
thank

2498
02:23:50,970 --> 02:23:53,280
John C Dvorak: you very much. If
it's worth three or 33 bucks,

2499
02:23:53,340 --> 02:23:57,870
it's definitely that's quite the
puzzle. Laura Mullen Meanwhile,

2500
02:23:57,870 --> 02:24:05,700
in Glenwood city, Wisconsin
319 40. ITM 5097 times two

2501
02:24:05,700 --> 02:24:10,440
equals 3194. Thus my first
donation of 319 dot 40 is

2502
02:24:10,440 --> 02:24:16,320
complete. Just request and
prosper, requesting prosperous

2503
02:24:16,320 --> 02:24:18,990
life karma for all thank you for
your courage.

2504
02:24:19,170 --> 02:24:22,020
Adam Curry: Very good, great
Fibonacci donation you've got

2505
02:24:22,200 --> 02:24:22,860
Unknown: karma.

2506
02:24:22,890 --> 02:24:26,370
Adam Curry: Thank you very much,
Laura. And coming you from send

2507
02:24:26,370 --> 02:24:30,690
a guy at Tokyo Japan. Oh, I love
hearing from our Dame Astrid

2508
02:24:30,690 --> 02:24:35,190
comes in with a row of ducks to
22 dot 22. And she says because

2509
02:24:35,340 --> 02:24:38,100
you are fabulous. And because
the deconstruction of the

2510
02:24:38,100 --> 02:24:41,280
narratives becomes more and more
necessary with each no agenda

2511
02:24:41,280 --> 02:24:44,820
show. This is from Dame Astrid,
Duchess of Japan and all the

2512
02:24:44,820 --> 02:24:48,540
disputed islands in the Japan
Sea. And in case I hadn't

2513
02:24:48,540 --> 02:24:53,460
mentioned it. The keeper Tina
and I we are planning on Tokyo

2514
02:24:53,610 --> 02:24:58,560
for next year, which was our
original plan was Japan I should

2515
02:24:58,560 --> 02:25:01,620
say not Tokyo. Our original plan
And for Japan was 2019 and of

2516
02:25:01,620 --> 02:25:05,820
course it's shut down for many
years so we're looking forward

2517
02:25:05,820 --> 02:25:10,140
to seeing you day mastered and
Sir Mark Of course in in the in

2518
02:25:10,140 --> 02:25:11,220
the in the Japan's

2519
02:25:13,799 --> 02:25:19,859
John C Dvorak: Corki is up and
he's in Oh, Gulu Florida, sir

2520
02:25:19,859 --> 02:25:23,939
Corky here ITM I couldn't resist
the last Fibonacci number by the

2521
02:25:23,939 --> 02:25:28,859
way show 1596 was very
interesting well done gents.

2522
02:25:29,399 --> 02:25:35,159
Jingle request bingo Boom
shakalaka plus goat karma bingo

2523
02:25:39,450 --> 02:25:40,230
Unknown: you've got

2524
02:25:43,710 --> 02:25:47,340
Adam Curry: sir Luca is in Walla
Walla Washington 202 dot O to

2525
02:25:47,700 --> 02:25:51,000
love these numbers in the
morning chaps double comma

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02:25:51,000 --> 02:25:55,290
request please help karma the
Yak variety and a TPP jobs karma

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02:25:58,320 --> 02:26:03,330
Okay I got it here thank you for
your courage sir Luca of the

2528
02:26:03,330 --> 02:26:06,570
South East okay, I'm just gonna
combine them if you don't mind.

2529
02:26:07,110 --> 02:26:17,130
Save some jobs, jobs, jobs,
jobs. Jobs you've got

2530
02:26:19,320 --> 02:26:22,500
John C Dvorak: Isaac Contreras
in Chula Vista, California

2531
02:26:22,500 --> 02:26:32,370
$200.33 aka Dr. Ai aka devotes a
shameless plug for my very own

2532
02:26:32,370 --> 02:26:40,710
pod third side podcast on all
platforms. Can I please get John

2533
02:26:40,710 --> 02:26:45,840
to do a bluesy harmonica lick
for me to sample Ooh much oh let

2534
02:26:45,840 --> 02:26:46,650
me get the

2535
02:26:49,140 --> 02:26:52,710
Adam Curry: devote devotee has
done value for value music

2536
02:26:52,740 --> 02:26:57,690
booster grand ball.com and Dr.
AI and aka devotee is one of our

2537
02:26:57,690 --> 02:27:00,960
end of show mixers for today. So
thank you, Isaac. Yeah, and here

2538
02:27:00,960 --> 02:27:01,770
comes your lick

2539
02:27:05,220 --> 02:27:06,930
John C Dvorak: sir mannequin
really

2540
02:27:18,960 --> 02:27:19,740
could have been better?

2541
02:27:19,769 --> 02:27:25,859
Adam Curry: I think it's pretty
good. William doggy, doggy I

2542
02:27:25,859 --> 02:27:29,129
think Bristol Ville, Ohio 200.
We're getting towards the end

2543
02:27:29,129 --> 02:27:31,319
here. Associate Executive
Producer ship says Hi, John

2544
02:27:31,319 --> 02:27:33,929
anonymous donation of 200 to
take me to knighthood just in

2545
02:27:33,929 --> 02:27:37,409
time for my 45th birthday on
October 10. How could it get any

2546
02:27:37,409 --> 02:27:40,889
better? If you could nightmare
Sir William of Northeast Ohio.

2547
02:27:40,979 --> 02:27:43,739
And the regular fare at the
round table is fine to meet Of

2548
02:27:43,739 --> 02:27:46,889
course. And could I get a
birthday for my biscuits for my

2549
02:27:46,889 --> 02:27:50,249
birthday and an R two d two
karma. Thanks for all you guys.

2550
02:27:50,249 --> 02:27:50,639
Do

2551
02:27:50,670 --> 02:27:53,310
Unknown: they always give me a
biscuit on my birthday? Of

2552
02:27:53,310 --> 02:27:57,870
course we can do you've got
karma.

2553
02:28:00,510 --> 02:28:04,020
John C Dvorak: San Antonio,
Madrid, Madrid, Spain or sir

2554
02:28:04,020 --> 02:28:08,880
Antonio, San Antonio, San
Antonio from Madrid. A biscuit

2555
02:28:08,880 --> 02:28:12,660
for my 65th birthday on October
9, the most popular request is a

2556
02:28:12,660 --> 02:28:17,070
biscuit for my birthday, and
happy retirement karma. For me,

2557
02:28:17,100 --> 02:28:20,340
Unknown: they always give me
this good on my birthday. You've

2558
02:28:20,340 --> 02:28:21,660
got karma.

2559
02:28:22,440 --> 02:28:25,350
Adam Curry: Sir Antonio, where
were you when we were in

2560
02:28:25,350 --> 02:28:27,510
Barcelona. We weren't here. But
by the way, Madrid is where all

2561
02:28:27,510 --> 02:28:30,270
the i All the elites go to
Madrid, all the elites of the

2562
02:28:30,270 --> 02:28:33,660
world. The Kings, the queens,
particularly the princess and

2563
02:28:33,660 --> 02:28:38,220
the princess. They all have cool
condos in Madrid. A little known

2564
02:28:38,220 --> 02:28:39,450
fact, Madrid.

2565
02:28:40,200 --> 02:28:41,850
John C Dvorak: Madrid is where
the elites hang out. Have a

2566
02:28:41,850 --> 02:28:42,810
great museum.

2567
02:28:43,020 --> 02:28:45,510
Adam Curry: Sir Jimmy James
almost here at the end here from

2568
02:28:45,510 --> 02:28:48,900
Oklahoma City. $200 says God
bless sir Jimmy James of the

2569
02:28:48,900 --> 02:28:51,360
South Central flatlands. God
bless to you jurists are Jimmy

2570
02:28:51,360 --> 02:28:52,650
James Thank you very much.

2571
02:28:52,710 --> 02:28:54,960
John C Dvorak: And finally Linda
LAPACK and was always at the

2572
02:28:54,960 --> 02:28:57,750
bottom of the list from
Lakewood, Colorado and she wants

2573
02:28:57,750 --> 02:29:00,960
some jobs Carmen for resume that
gets results go to Image makers

2574
02:29:00,960 --> 02:29:04,170
inc.com For all your executive
resume and job search needs, she

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02:29:04,170 --> 02:29:08,400
writes, that's image makers Inc
with a k.com or just find Linda

2576
02:29:08,400 --> 02:29:11,760
Lou patcon. She's on the list
under the show's producer list.

2577
02:29:11,790 --> 02:29:15,150
Adam Curry: And today we'll give
her a TPP jobs, jobs, jobs,

2578
02:29:15,150 --> 02:29:21,630
jobs. Karma and that wraps up
our Executive Associate

2579
02:29:21,630 --> 02:29:24,720
Executive Producers these titles
are Real you can now say that

2580
02:29:24,720 --> 02:29:28,620
you are an executive producer,
no agenda Show episode 1597 or

2581
02:29:28,620 --> 02:29:32,220
Associate Executive as
appropriate. And of course these

2582
02:29:32,220 --> 02:29:36,630
credits are used or accepted
anywhere credits are recognized

2583
02:29:36,630 --> 02:29:39,990
including IMDb, you can use it
on your LinkedIn, you can put it

2584
02:29:39,990 --> 02:29:42,960
on your resume, or you can just
use it in the bar and say hey,

2585
02:29:42,960 --> 02:29:45,090
and put on a little business
card. I'm Executive Producer.

2586
02:29:45,090 --> 02:29:49,050
I'm looking for an unknown. And
if anyone questions this credit

2587
02:29:49,080 --> 02:29:51,120
will vouch for you. We're happy
to do that. Thank you for

2588
02:29:51,120 --> 02:29:53,820
supporting the no agenda show.
John is gonna take us through

2589
02:29:53,820 --> 02:29:56,640
the 50s We got some meetups we
got some Knights and Dames cool

2590
02:29:56,640 --> 02:29:57,570
stuff on the way.

2591
02:29:58,050 --> 02:30:00,600
John C Dvorak: Sir Suge starts
us off in cameras washed into a

2592
02:30:00,600 --> 02:30:06,630
159 70 Hey, there's our buddy,
sir do David food zotoh And

2593
02:30:06,630 --> 02:30:08,010
Gladstone, Missouri.

2594
02:30:08,760 --> 02:30:11,340
Adam Curry: They'll be the
Arabian Peninsula and America's

2595
02:30:11,340 --> 02:30:11,910
Heartland

2596
02:30:12,120 --> 02:30:15,600
John C Dvorak: 159 70 which is
also a Fibonacci if that's just

2597
02:30:15,600 --> 02:30:20,550
like a 10 10% off on Fibonacci
Columbus Day you mentioned Thank

2598
02:30:20,550 --> 02:30:25,440
you. Brian Schmidt in Canton
Michigan also comes here one

2599
02:30:25,440 --> 02:30:31,890
night went to deeds 970 And he
does say something here I want

2600
02:30:31,890 --> 02:30:34,620
to read you miss something
that's in the show Dope Sick Big

2601
02:30:34,620 --> 02:30:39,150
Pharma use the term breakthrough
pain to justify upping dosage.

2602
02:30:39,150 --> 02:30:41,520
They brought it back with COVID
breakthrough.

2603
02:30:41,550 --> 02:30:44,670
Adam Curry: Good point. Good
catch. Good catch. Breakthrough

2604
02:30:44,700 --> 02:30:46,650
breakthrough infection. You're
right.

2605
02:30:47,370 --> 02:30:50,220
John C Dvorak: John Wyatt,
Huntsville, Alabama, 144 Baronet

2606
02:30:50,220 --> 02:30:56,160
tests salty and Winchester New
Hampshire. 12345. Central Jersey

2607
02:30:56,160 --> 02:30:59,250
meet up in Parlin. New Jersey
has switcheroo the collection

2608
02:30:59,250 --> 02:31:02,310
for the New Jersey central New
Jersey Toms River coaster

2609
02:31:02,310 --> 02:31:07,590
donation raffle. The winner is
Bart from Toms River Tucker born

2610
02:31:07,590 --> 02:31:12,360
in boring Oregon 11235 needs
jobs calm we'll give you that at

2611
02:31:12,360 --> 02:31:18,780
the end Jeffrey proc in
Rochester New York. 100. John M

2612
02:31:18,780 --> 02:31:22,710
Adams and bold secure Alabama.
I'm not sure how you pronounce

2613
02:31:22,710 --> 02:31:26,040
it but he's got a birthday
coming up and he donated $82

2614
02:31:26,040 --> 02:31:30,360
Kevin McLaughlin is on the list
of course at 808. Save the

2615
02:31:30,360 --> 02:31:32,970
snuggle puppies Breast Cancer
Awareness Month.

2616
02:31:35,580 --> 02:31:37,080
Adam Curry: Snuggle puppies.

2617
02:31:37,860 --> 02:31:40,590
John C Dvorak: Sir Kevin De
Archduke of Luna lover of

2618
02:31:40,590 --> 02:31:47,820
America and boobs. Brian gak in
Kansas Ville, Wisconsin. 808 Now

2619
02:31:47,820 --> 02:31:50,670
he's going to be a night
invasively known henceforth the

2620
02:31:50,670 --> 02:31:54,660
SIR lab rat of connet Kenosha,
my former hometown for the

2621
02:31:54,660 --> 02:31:58,350
roundtable like brandy, old
fashions, Brandy old fashions

2622
02:31:58,350 --> 02:32:03,690
and cringle with some jobs
coming to at the end, Darren

2623
02:32:03,690 --> 02:32:09,240
Moore in Decatur, Illinois. 7696
These are D douching.

2624
02:32:11,490 --> 02:32:13,350
Unknown: You've been D deuced

2625
02:32:14,640 --> 02:32:18,810
John C Dvorak: $71 comes from
David German in New South Wales

2626
02:32:18,810 --> 02:32:24,180
Australia dad Donna Eubanks in
Canton, Ohio 6732. Grayson

2627
02:32:24,180 --> 02:32:29,790
insurance, Grayson insurance in
Aurora calor rato 606 and Kevin

2628
02:32:29,790 --> 02:32:35,700
McLaughlin is back from Concord,
North Carolina 606 This time,

2629
02:32:35,730 --> 02:32:41,250
save the party pillows. So he's
now gone from lint naming melons

2630
02:32:41,250 --> 02:32:45,660
to naming pillows. Acronym are
not acronyms but there's a word

2631
02:32:45,660 --> 02:32:49,380
for that. One thing you call
something something else a

2632
02:32:49,410 --> 02:32:52,350
Adam Curry: synonym for boobs or
boobs synonyms.

2633
02:32:53,430 --> 02:32:55,590
John C Dvorak: It's not a
synonym. Exactly. There's a word

2634
02:32:55,590 --> 02:32:57,660
somebody in that in the troll
room knows what I was saying.

2635
02:32:57,870 --> 02:33:01,560
isms euphemisms, that's what
he's doing. Thank you. So Ryan

2636
02:33:01,560 --> 02:33:07,590
Smith in Raleigh, North Carolina
606. He mentioned the tiger

2637
02:33:07,590 --> 02:33:12,120
melon David Weicker in
Jacksonville, Florida. 5510

2638
02:33:13,980 --> 02:33:18,990
Glinda DOMA Nalli in Rochester,
New Hampshire 5333 Josiah Thomas

2639
02:33:18,990 --> 02:33:24,780
$51 Brian Richardson in Aurora,
Illinois $50.69 which gives us

2640
02:33:24,780 --> 02:33:30,420
right back to the $50 donors and
I just go name and location

2641
02:33:30,450 --> 02:33:33,810
Philip Kusum offski in Austin
you miss you

2642
02:33:33,810 --> 02:33:36,360
Adam Curry: miss you miss David
wicker. I just want you to

2643
02:33:36,600 --> 02:33:39,330
number 42 Deaf is weaker?

2644
02:33:39,420 --> 02:33:42,060
John C Dvorak: No I did rich a
David worker Jackson. I think

2645
02:33:42,090 --> 02:33:45,930
Jacksonville Florida 5510. But
do you see his note? Yeah, but

2646
02:33:45,930 --> 02:33:49,650
he that that note doesn't get
read in under two hundreds.

2647
02:33:50,340 --> 02:33:56,640
Because then it's is is inviting
bargain basement reads. Okay. If

2648
02:33:56,640 --> 02:33:59,760
he put it at the beginning, I'd
have no choice. I see what

2649
02:33:59,760 --> 02:34:03,000
you're saying. Got it. Like
Grayson insurance in Aurora,

2650
02:34:03,000 --> 02:34:04,560
Colorado. What am I supposed to
do?

2651
02:34:04,590 --> 02:34:06,390
Adam Curry: I gotcha. I gotcha.
Gotcha.

2652
02:34:07,140 --> 02:34:11,790
John C Dvorak: So he's got to up
his game. Brian Richardson in

2653
02:34:11,790 --> 02:34:16,530
Aurora, Illinois, Philip coos
Malinowski in Austin, Texas Ryan

2654
02:34:16,530 --> 02:34:19,110
tear and then in North
Providence, Rhode Island,

2655
02:34:19,350 --> 02:34:22,170
Jonathan Ferris and liberal
Kansas Matthew Smith and

2656
02:34:22,170 --> 02:34:28,230
Colchester, UK. Susan Tillet in
Corvallis, Oregon, Jonathan

2657
02:34:28,230 --> 02:34:34,800
Meyer in Xenia, Ohio Justin Cruz
and to hatch a B to hatch a P

2658
02:34:34,800 --> 02:34:39,840
that's up there on the
grapevine. California Danica

2659
02:34:39,840 --> 02:34:43,410
Keaney in Lincoln, New
Hampshire. Robertson home in

2660
02:34:43,410 --> 02:34:49,950
Flint, Michigan. Edward Mazurek
in Memphis, Tennessee. Zippered

2661
02:34:49,980 --> 02:34:54,930
Jip Yep. Right JP vo Lima in
Holland.

2662
02:34:55,020 --> 02:34:57,090
Adam Curry: Yep. Follow MA in
Wassenaar.

2663
02:34:58,290 --> 02:35:05,910
John C Dvorak: Yep. Fulham off
road. Yvonne MA in vasana Steven

2664
02:35:05,940 --> 02:35:14,340
Ray and Ray in Spokane, William
Kidwell in Dover, Delaware, Sir

2665
02:35:14,340 --> 02:35:17,100
George Wuxia to haven't heard
from him for a while. How's he

2666
02:35:17,100 --> 02:35:21,180
doing in La vernia, Texas,
Charles Peterson in Albuquerque,

2667
02:35:21,180 --> 02:35:24,930
New Mexico and last on the list
is Capek chiropractic and Capek

2668
02:35:24,930 --> 02:35:28,320
Michigan. Go there, get your
back straightened out.

2669
02:35:28,769 --> 02:35:30,449
Adam Curry: Thank you all very
much for supporting the no

2670
02:35:30,449 --> 02:35:33,569
agenda show. Of course we thank
everyone who came in under $50.

2671
02:35:33,779 --> 02:35:37,529
Some for reasons of anonymity
which is understandable. Others

2672
02:35:37,529 --> 02:35:40,079
are on sustaining donations
which are very important and if

2673
02:35:40,079 --> 02:35:42,119
you think you're on one you
might want to check your pay pal

2674
02:35:42,119 --> 02:35:45,869
as we just discussed, sometimes
they just uncouple you from us

2675
02:35:46,049 --> 02:35:48,659
without any asking some jobs
karma as requested

2676
02:35:48,750 --> 02:35:53,370
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

2677
02:35:55,530 --> 02:35:57,150
You've got karma.

2678
02:35:57,480 --> 02:36:00,450
Adam Curry: And remember You too
can become a producer of the no

2679
02:36:00,450 --> 02:36:03,990
agenda podcast all you can do
all you have to do is go to go

2680
02:36:03,990 --> 02:36:04,890
to this website

2681
02:36:05,010 --> 02:36:09,300
Unknown: to learn more.org/and A
thank

2682
02:36:09,300 --> 02:36:11,190
Adam Curry: you again to our
Executive Associate Executive

2683
02:36:11,190 --> 02:36:13,260
producers for 1597

2684
02:36:13,650 --> 02:36:18,030
Unknown: Our formula is this we
go out for hit people in the

2685
02:36:18,030 --> 02:36:18,330
mouth

2686
02:36:38,250 --> 02:36:41,190
Adam Curry: as a service no
agenda we like to know what's in

2687
02:36:41,190 --> 02:36:43,110
the nation. We'd like to
celebrate birthdays for

2688
02:36:43,110 --> 02:36:46,350
everybody. So here's the list
for today. John Adams wishes his

2689
02:36:46,350 --> 02:36:49,530
sister Melissa Adams Dylan a
happy birthday she celebrates

2690
02:36:49,530 --> 02:36:54,180
today, young women his smokin
hot. Sri Lankan wife Jenna

2691
02:36:54,180 --> 02:36:57,540
Feeney celebrates her 50th
Tomorrow Happy birthday in

2692
02:36:57,540 --> 02:37:02,100
advance, as does sir Antonio.
Turning 65 retiring tomorrow and

2693
02:37:02,100 --> 02:37:05,670
William delegators 45 on the
happy birthday from everybody

2694
02:37:05,670 --> 02:37:16,560
here at the best podcast in the
universe will change. Turn and

2695
02:37:16,560 --> 02:37:23,130
face the slaves as the Baron of
backwardation of contango

2696
02:37:23,310 --> 02:37:27,540
becomes a dupe today and claim
Central Florida as his dukedom

2697
02:37:27,780 --> 02:37:30,270
well there you go.
Congratulations and welcome to

2698
02:37:30,270 --> 02:37:32,910
our Duke of Central Florida.
Thank you very much for

2699
02:37:32,910 --> 02:37:35,250
supporting the no agenda show
and an additional amount

2700
02:37:35,880 --> 02:37:40,890
combined of $1,000 and we have
quite a liquid was nice we got

2701
02:37:40,890 --> 02:37:45,120
three dame's getting Oh well.
Oh, nice outfits ladies. And

2702
02:37:45,120 --> 02:37:49,260
two, two nights getting ready.
So here's a big sword.

2703
02:37:49,890 --> 02:37:50,880
John C Dvorak: Here's a bigger
one.

2704
02:37:51,689 --> 02:37:56,879
Adam Curry: Oh, that is a big
one. On the podium Laura Mooney,

2705
02:37:57,419 --> 02:38:01,859
Jonah veiny Jody Atkinson
William dog and Brian genomic

2706
02:38:01,859 --> 02:38:04,529
all five of you now become
knights and names the no agenda

2707
02:38:04,529 --> 02:38:08,309
roundtable I'm very proud to
pronounce Kate the as Game Lore

2708
02:38:08,309 --> 02:38:12,719
of the golden mean Dame Jenna
thenI of the Ceylon spices dame

2709
02:38:12,719 --> 02:38:16,889
of the skiing dogs, Sir William
of Northeast Ohio and Sir lab

2710
02:38:16,889 --> 02:38:20,639
rat of Ken shush out for you
we've got hookers and blow rent

2711
02:38:20,639 --> 02:38:24,359
boys and Chardonnay, also Pinot
Noir and poppadoms a nice grass

2712
02:38:24,359 --> 02:38:27,989
fed Texas steak with a bottle of
Opus One, Brandy, old fashions

2713
02:38:28,019 --> 02:38:31,049
and cringle and of course we
have sparkling cider Ness warts

2714
02:38:31,049 --> 02:38:34,139
bong hits and bourbon germ,
ginger ale and dribbles, breast

2715
02:38:34,139 --> 02:38:39,659
milk and pablum and some mutton
and Mead. Gosh the mutton and

2716
02:38:39,659 --> 02:38:43,139
meat looks good today. Head over
to no agenda rings.com Go ahead

2717
02:38:43,139 --> 02:38:46,049
and check out those beautiful
night and Dame rings. They are

2718
02:38:46,049 --> 02:38:50,129
for you though exclusively all
you have to do is send us your

2719
02:38:50,279 --> 02:38:54,719
ring size for one of your six
fingers on the AI and an address

2720
02:38:54,719 --> 02:38:57,509
and of course it's a signet ring
so they come with wax to seal

2721
02:38:57,509 --> 02:39:00,749
your important correspondence. I
love we love receiving it really

2722
02:39:00,869 --> 02:39:03,929
when people send back to the PIO
box and you get one of those

2723
02:39:03,959 --> 02:39:07,559
envelopes. I'm gonna go
somewhere. We send it back to

2724
02:39:07,559 --> 02:39:10,829
the PIO box and stamp with a
with some sealing wax. It's

2725
02:39:10,829 --> 02:39:14,699
cool. That's like the circle is
complete when that happens is a

2726
02:39:14,699 --> 02:39:17,639
lot of fun. When you can send
that to your family it'd be like

2727
02:39:17,729 --> 02:39:23,249
What is my douchebag son doing
now is sealing wax also comes

2728
02:39:23,249 --> 02:39:25,379
with a certificate of
authenticity because they are

2729
02:39:25,379 --> 02:39:28,349
authentic you are now a knight
and ordain of the no agenda

2730
02:39:28,349 --> 02:39:28,859
roundtable.

2731
02:39:38,790 --> 02:39:42,840
Couple of donations for the Toms
River meetup they had a good

2732
02:39:42,840 --> 02:39:45,720
time they sent a report it was
very muffled I did some

2733
02:39:45,720 --> 02:39:46,320
filtering.

2734
02:39:46,350 --> 02:39:49,260
Unknown: This is Sir Daniels
coming at you from the Garden

2735
02:39:49,260 --> 02:39:53,880
State distillery. We drink and
we know things. This is Sir

2736
02:39:53,880 --> 02:39:59,130
nobody of the 3d printer
enjoying drinking and plastic a

2737
02:39:59,130 --> 02:40:03,480
log the bugs Did you bark from
Toms River? I'm drinking a lot

2738
02:40:03,480 --> 02:40:07,350
of bugs right now I had about
three or four bugs. This is

2739
02:40:07,350 --> 02:40:11,850
producer Joseph, and we are here
in the bowels of the distillery

2740
02:40:11,850 --> 02:40:19,470
having lots of fun. This is
karaoke from freehold and I'm

2741
02:40:19,470 --> 02:40:22,680
figuring out how I'm preparing
for the zombie apocalypse after

2742
02:40:22,680 --> 02:40:26,640
the abs. Who you John that I'm
following up on that glad to see

2743
02:40:26,640 --> 02:40:33,150
that you to survive the natto 5g
activation Apocalypse Oh, hi TM

2744
02:40:33,150 --> 02:40:36,780
John and Adam connection is
protection. I'm watching this

2745
02:40:36,780 --> 02:40:41,250
moose in the corner passing
along piece outs there's not

2746
02:40:41,280 --> 02:40:44,010
much to say so I was saying hi.
In the morning.

2747
02:40:45,720 --> 02:40:48,120
Adam Curry: I hear some real
jerk I heard some real Jersey

2748
02:40:48,120 --> 02:40:50,910
girls in there always that
obviously sounds great love

2749
02:40:50,910 --> 02:40:55,830
that. Boston had their their
regular red 33 Red three burst

2750
02:40:55,830 --> 02:40:59,820
Boston meetup and report comes
in from from Nathan. Stephen.

2751
02:41:01,740 --> 02:41:03,360
Unknown: And this is Nathan Lee.
I

2752
02:41:03,360 --> 02:41:06,480
think I'm a Baronet of the first
horrors of Armageddon.

2753
02:41:06,660 --> 02:41:09,840
We're here at Castle Island at
the September 16. No agenda

2754
02:41:09,840 --> 02:41:14,220
Boston Red 33 Red 33 meetup in
between some beautiful Celtic

2755
02:41:14,220 --> 02:41:15,330
Irish music here.

2756
02:41:15,360 --> 02:41:17,130
Celtic Irish being redundant.

2757
02:41:17,850 --> 02:41:20,730
It's not necessarily a no. Okay.
No, it's not because you could

2758
02:41:20,730 --> 02:41:23,670
have Scottish Celtic music as
well. Alright. And that's our

2759
02:41:23,670 --> 02:41:25,650
meet up report. Thank you for
your courage.

2760
02:41:25,680 --> 02:41:28,230
Adam Curry: Yes. Thank you very
much for your courage. Look at

2761
02:41:28,230 --> 02:41:32,730
that. Look at that. Oops. They
left everything on for me. I'm

2762
02:41:32,730 --> 02:41:35,820
beautiful. So there's only one
meetup that happens we do now

2763
02:41:35,820 --> 02:41:40,260
and the next show which is the
October 12 Mile High meetup 630.

2764
02:41:40,440 --> 02:41:43,290
That's at Lincoln's Roadhouse in
Denver, Colorado, sir are

2765
02:41:43,290 --> 02:41:46,980
organizing for you. And in the
rest of this month we got Palmer

2766
02:41:46,980 --> 02:41:50,670
Alaska on deck we still have the
shopping center or at least go

2767
02:41:50,670 --> 02:41:55,080
Jalisco and Mexico. What else we
got Houston on the list we got

2768
02:41:55,080 --> 02:41:59,100
in Indy on the 15th to get
Albany California on the 21st

2769
02:41:59,100 --> 02:42:02,760
John, John C. Dvorak will be
appearing will live and in

2770
02:42:02,760 --> 02:42:07,110
person signing autographs and
taking selfies on October 21 at

2771
02:42:07,110 --> 02:42:14,430
the Albany California meetup
find all of these meetups listed

2772
02:42:14,430 --> 02:42:16,980
at no agenda meetups.com We've
got a lot of see them all the

2773
02:42:16,980 --> 02:42:19,590
way through December because you
can put them on as long as you

2774
02:42:19,590 --> 02:42:22,920
want as you want. And you know
people can go and start planning

2775
02:42:22,920 --> 02:42:25,410
their lives around them which
you have to do it's the perfect

2776
02:42:25,410 --> 02:42:28,530
companion to the no agenda show
without it. You're not protected

2777
02:42:28,530 --> 02:42:32,010
because protection connection is
protection go to no agenda

2778
02:42:32,010 --> 02:42:34,950
meetup.com If you can't find one
near you start one yourself as

2779
02:42:34,950 --> 02:42:36,330
easy always like a party

2780
02:42:38,760 --> 02:42:45,990
Unknown: with all day you be
triggered

2781
02:42:53,160 --> 02:42:56,550
Adam Curry: Bom Bom is like
alright, you start today with

2782
02:42:56,550 --> 02:42:58,140
the ISOs because I'm always
starting.

2783
02:42:59,430 --> 02:43:03,390
John C Dvorak: I always start,
but okay, boom. Let's do this

2784
02:43:03,390 --> 02:43:05,610
one. I yay

2785
02:43:11,520 --> 02:43:12,990
Okay, let's try this one kick.

2786
02:43:13,410 --> 02:43:15,480
Unknown: Okay, got an extra
kick.

2787
02:43:18,090 --> 02:43:19,770
John C Dvorak: And then last one
is sexism.

2788
02:43:20,010 --> 02:43:22,530
Unknown: This is blatant sexism.

2789
02:43:23,220 --> 02:43:25,260
Adam Curry: That's pretty good.
I don't know if I can compete. I

2790
02:43:25,260 --> 02:43:33,900
do have a couple. Hi, climactic
moment. Is that this one

2791
02:43:33,990 --> 02:43:35,610
Unknown: wonderful stew.

2792
02:43:38,190 --> 02:43:41,010
John C Dvorak: funny, silly. You
need to leave

2793
02:43:41,070 --> 02:43:44,670
Adam Curry: like that one. I
couldn't hear it. Okay, and then

2794
02:43:44,670 --> 02:43:48,900
this you know, we always have
the classic glow the planet you

2795
02:43:48,900 --> 02:43:53,190
gotta have a nice seed man in
there. Like to sexism when

2796
02:43:53,190 --> 02:43:57,240
better when we say well, you did
laugh at the wonderful stew

2797
02:43:57,270 --> 02:43:57,780
Yeah, but

2798
02:43:57,780 --> 02:43:59,070
John C Dvorak: because it's so
stupid.

2799
02:43:59,100 --> 02:44:01,380
Adam Curry: Well that's that's
that's good. I couldn't there's

2800
02:44:01,380 --> 02:44:02,730
John C Dvorak: muffled is muddy.

2801
02:44:02,880 --> 02:44:05,370
Unknown: This is blatant sexism.

2802
02:44:05,400 --> 02:44:06,300
Adam Curry: Yeah, thank you when

2803
02:44:07,590 --> 02:44:08,730
John C Dvorak: I think you is
that

2804
02:44:10,230 --> 02:44:15,120
Unknown: let me listen again.
This is blatant sexism. I don't

2805
02:44:15,120 --> 02:44:19,710
know. To MEGAN Oh, Megan Kelly.
Yeah

2806
02:44:22,230 --> 02:44:24,690
Adam Curry: there you go. That's
about all you need to hear about

2807
02:44:24,690 --> 02:44:25,470
the podcast

2808
02:44:30,570 --> 02:44:32,730
John C Dvorak: talking about
blatant sexism I want to play a

2809
02:44:32,730 --> 02:44:35,310
couple of these this is the you
know from the from the various

2810
02:44:35,310 --> 02:44:39,780
Senate hearings. Oh god okay.
They're always bringing up these

2811
02:44:39,780 --> 02:44:42,720
days they bring some divided
administration brings up to

2812
02:44:42,720 --> 02:44:49,320
crack most crackpot judges to
get approval. So you have every

2813
02:44:49,350 --> 02:44:53,880
you know showboating Republican
who's got any clue? Of course,

2814
02:44:53,910 --> 02:44:57,060
as you count as one does, yes,
as one does. And you got the two

2815
02:44:57,060 --> 02:45:00,120
main guys the best of the group
is Kennedy The

2816
02:45:01,199 --> 02:45:04,139
Adam Curry: Kennedys in a league
of his own. I mean, it's pretty

2817
02:45:04,140 --> 02:45:06,840
John C Dvorak: close to it. But
I think Ted Cruz also comes up

2818
02:45:06,840 --> 02:45:10,590
with some good stuff. But so I
have two, three clips from this

2819
02:45:10,590 --> 02:45:16,470
one guy, this characters named
Mustafa. They get their own

2820
02:45:16,470 --> 02:45:22,740
sheet. Kushi was stuff. Mighty
handbag, cash you buy

2821
02:45:22,740 --> 02:45:25,560
Adam Curry: stuff you buy? Yeah,
I gotcha. Yeah. So

2822
02:45:25,560 --> 02:45:28,770
John C Dvorak: let's go with
Kennedy versus cashew by mix

2823
02:45:28,770 --> 02:45:29,460
one.

2824
02:45:32,670 --> 02:45:38,460
Unknown: Chairman, Judge cashify
I'm looking at an order you've

2825
02:45:38,460 --> 02:45:43,800
issued as a magistrate judge
here requiring the use of

2826
02:45:45,120 --> 02:45:52,020
pronouns in your court. I'm
already laughing. Do you require

2827
02:45:52,020 --> 02:45:55,830
the use of pronouns the
declaration of one's pronouns in

2828
02:45:55,830 --> 02:45:56,400
your court?

2829
02:45:57,480 --> 02:46:00,300
Senator that may be referring to
perhaps a trial management order

2830
02:46:00,300 --> 02:46:03,510
or a scheduling order of of some
kind. Yeah.

2831
02:46:04,740 --> 02:46:07,050
It's a statement you've issued,
here it is.

2832
02:46:11,790 --> 02:46:17,460
It's an invitation for people to
to identify their pronouns and

2833
02:46:17,520 --> 02:46:19,080
or their honorifics.

2834
02:46:19,140 --> 02:46:23,730
honorifics, your requirement
that you issued to all people in

2835
02:46:23,730 --> 02:46:27,300
your court. You say, quote, when
you introduce yourself in a

2836
02:46:27,300 --> 02:46:32,190
meeting, you should say, My name
is Judge bIack. And my pronouns

2837
02:46:32,310 --> 02:46:34,920
are blank. And right,

2838
02:46:35,160 --> 02:46:37,830
Senator, those were not
requirements or rules. Those

2839
02:46:37,830 --> 02:46:41,310
were suggestions and suggestion
that those were suggestions and

2840
02:46:41,310 --> 02:46:42,960
invitations for people to use.
And

2841
02:46:42,960 --> 02:46:47,970
you also in your directive, you
say, quote, I'd like counsel to

2842
02:46:47,970 --> 02:46:51,810
introduce themselves giving your
full name and your honorific,

2843
02:46:52,080 --> 02:46:57,750
such as ms and ms. Period, MCs,
or Mr. Not Ms. And if your

2844
02:46:57,750 --> 02:47:00,180
client won't be making an
appearance, I asked you to

2845
02:47:00,180 --> 02:47:03,570
please introduce them to the
court by giving me their full

2846
02:47:03,570 --> 02:47:08,730
name and their honorifics such
as ms and ms. Period MCs are Mr.

2847
02:47:09,480 --> 02:47:12,090
And quo. Is that right?

2848
02:47:12,660 --> 02:47:15,510
Senator is not a directive.
Again. It's an invitation for

2849
02:47:15,510 --> 02:47:16,770
people to introduce themselves.

2850
02:47:17,430 --> 02:47:21,270
Adam Curry: Yeah, okay. Honor is
honorifics. A thing I've never

2851
02:47:21,270 --> 02:47:22,500
heard of honorific.

2852
02:47:22,530 --> 02:47:24,120
John C Dvorak: That's the
latest. That's you. We've

2853
02:47:24,120 --> 02:47:26,790
noticed this in the clips we get
from kick Tech where people call

2854
02:47:26,790 --> 02:47:28,110
themselves MCs.

2855
02:47:28,350 --> 02:47:31,230
Adam Curry: Well, yeah, but what
is an honorific?

2856
02:47:31,470 --> 02:47:33,930
John C Dvorak: That's it like
mister missus MCs.

2857
02:47:33,990 --> 02:47:36,930
Adam Curry: This is a show title
is what it is. honorific

2858
02:47:36,960 --> 02:47:38,940
honorifics. honorifics. Yeah,

2859
02:47:38,970 --> 02:47:41,130
John C Dvorak: I think so. And
he goes on part two, where he

2860
02:47:41,130 --> 02:47:42,840
goes off to the guy even harder.

2861
02:47:43,560 --> 02:47:49,110
Unknown: All right, I'm looking
at an article and from the

2862
02:47:49,110 --> 02:47:57,210
Oregon State Bar bulletin from
May of 2021. And I want to I

2863
02:47:57,330 --> 02:48:05,100
want to read one of your quotes.
Quote, we have to set aside

2864
02:48:05,130 --> 02:48:11,280
conventional ideas of proof that
may satisfy me say that again,

2865
02:48:12,090 --> 02:48:16,140
we have to set aside
conventional ideas of proof you

2866
02:48:16,140 --> 02:48:20,970
said, when we are dealing with
the personal and interpersonal

2867
02:48:20,970 --> 02:48:23,940
work of equity division and
inclusion,

2868
02:48:24,330 --> 02:48:26,130
Adam Curry: division, and
actually

2869
02:48:26,160 --> 02:48:29,490
John C Dvorak: division. I know
you said that. You gotta wonder

2870
02:48:29,490 --> 02:48:32,220
if he said it on purpose or not.
This guy's you never know what

2871
02:48:32,220 --> 02:48:32,760
that guy?

2872
02:48:32,790 --> 02:48:36,120
Adam Curry: Yeah. So I'm just
what is this? Why is he is he

2873
02:48:36,120 --> 02:48:38,850
hearing this judge? I mean, why
is he doing this? Why is this

2874
02:48:38,850 --> 02:48:40,500
judge being grilled by the

2875
02:48:40,560 --> 02:48:43,350
John C Dvorak: because the judge
is being set up to be one of the

2876
02:48:43,350 --> 02:48:48,870
federal judges, oh, big systems
class guy, that the Biden people

2877
02:48:48,870 --> 02:48:50,100
bring up how beautiful

2878
02:48:50,220 --> 02:48:53,460
Unknown: as a judge, I can
appreciate the challenge of

2879
02:48:53,460 --> 02:48:57,660
employing a different mode for
understanding truth than that

2880
02:48:57,660 --> 02:49:01,200
which most lawyers are
accustomed to in our work and

2881
02:49:01,200 --> 02:49:03,810
quote, did you write that?

2882
02:49:04,560 --> 02:49:08,580
That is a quote from that that
article.

2883
02:49:09,990 --> 02:49:15,330
So one more dealing with equity,
diversity and inclusion, we

2884
02:49:15,330 --> 02:49:20,610
should set aside conventional
ideas of proof. Is that right?

2885
02:49:21,360 --> 02:49:24,630
In the larger context of
interpersonal and personal

2886
02:49:24,630 --> 02:49:29,640
relationships, the idea of being
able to have a conversation with

2887
02:49:29,640 --> 02:49:30,450
somebody

2888
02:49:30,480 --> 02:49:33,630
Yeah, but she didn't talk about
conversation. He said proof

2889
02:49:34,380 --> 02:49:38,160
it's in the context of having a
conversation with somebody about

2890
02:49:38,160 --> 02:49:40,470
the issue of their background or
experience

2891
02:49:40,470 --> 02:49:45,000
when the issue is equity
diversity or inclusion, we

2892
02:49:45,000 --> 02:49:47,370
should have a different set of
proof is that right?

2893
02:49:48,900 --> 02:49:53,100
When it comes to the the, the
space in which people have

2894
02:49:53,100 --> 02:49:56,430
interpersonal relationships with
with one another, the idea of

2895
02:49:56,610 --> 02:50:00,000
respecting and dignifying each
other with their experiences is

2896
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:00,840
An important part.

2897
02:50:01,500 --> 02:50:06,480
So all issues have one set of
proof, which has been handed

2898
02:50:06,480 --> 02:50:10,320
down by our state supreme
courts, or US Supreme Court,

2899
02:50:10,350 --> 02:50:12,720
except you think we ought to
have a different set of proof

2900
02:50:12,720 --> 02:50:16,020
when Equity Diversity and
Inclusion are at issue. Is that

2901
02:50:16,020 --> 02:50:16,290
right?

2902
02:50:16,350 --> 02:50:22,020
In all of my years on the bench?
Senator, I have applied the law,

2903
02:50:22,140 --> 02:50:24,810
the rules of evidence, the case
precedent,

2904
02:50:24,840 --> 02:50:25,710
I mean, move on.

2905
02:50:26,250 --> 02:50:28,890
Adam Curry: Wow. So with all
these people just virtue

2906
02:50:28,890 --> 02:50:30,120
signaling Cox?

2907
02:50:30,690 --> 02:50:32,040
John C Dvorak: Oh, there's a
bunch of them and they keep

2908
02:50:32,040 --> 02:50:34,230
bringing him up. And so Cruz
goes after they're

2909
02:50:34,230 --> 02:50:36,540
Adam Curry: not sincere is the
point. They're not sincere when

2910
02:50:36,540 --> 02:50:37,920
it comes down to it. Oh,

2911
02:50:38,520 --> 02:50:40,710
John C Dvorak: no, I don't think
they are. In fact, they this is

2912
02:50:40,710 --> 02:50:43,620
one of the few times I'd say
you're right on this because I'm

2913
02:50:43,620 --> 02:50:48,150
usually defending them for their
sincerity. Yes. But here Cruz

2914
02:50:48,150 --> 02:50:53,010
goes after the same guy. And
this one is really a shocker.

2915
02:50:53,970 --> 02:50:56,160
Unknown: Okay, well, let's turn
to something else you wrote in

2916
02:50:56,160 --> 02:51:00,360
the Wisconsin women Law Journal.
Again, this is your writing. The

2917
02:51:00,600 --> 02:51:03,300
name of the article is
destabilizing, power and rape.

2918
02:51:03,390 --> 02:51:06,960
Why consent theory and rape law
has turned on its head you cited

2919
02:51:06,960 --> 02:51:10,530
Professor Catherine MacKinnon
who argued, quote, sexuality

2920
02:51:10,530 --> 02:51:14,730
itself is a power web in which
heterosexual relations per se,

2921
02:51:15,030 --> 02:51:19,110
are infused with violence and
control and, quote, most

2922
02:51:19,110 --> 02:51:24,930
intercourse is rape. I know that
her views are extreme. And yet,

2923
02:51:25,140 --> 02:51:27,990
and when Senator Blackburn asked
you about them here at the

2924
02:51:27,990 --> 02:51:30,480
hearing, when you want to be
confirmed, you try to distance

2925
02:51:30,480 --> 02:51:33,360
yourself from them. But here's
what you wrote. In the article,

2926
02:51:33,360 --> 02:51:37,740
you embrace those views you
wrote, quote, I employ the view

2927
02:51:37,740 --> 02:51:40,830
that rape is sex in order to
focus on the significance of

2928
02:51:40,830 --> 02:51:44,640
consent and rape law, the sex
act is a violation per se

2929
02:51:44,640 --> 02:51:47,700
without consent in order to
properly align the consent

2930
02:51:47,700 --> 02:51:50,460
doctrine and write blah with
consent in other areas of law,

2931
02:51:50,760 --> 02:51:57,090
non consent must be presumed. Do
you believe that as a mainstream

2932
02:51:57,090 --> 02:52:00,660
view that that heterosexual sex
is rape?

2933
02:52:02,370 --> 02:52:05,730
Adam Curry: Let me just stop for
a second. So this guy says that

2934
02:52:05,730 --> 02:52:11,100
unless you have explicit consent
is always non consensual.

2935
02:52:12,060 --> 02:52:14,310
John C Dvorak: Now, he says all
sexes rape.

2936
02:52:15,840 --> 02:52:18,930
Unknown: Senator, in that
article, I was exploring

2937
02:52:18,930 --> 02:52:23,370
different ideas and theories and
I was employing the hypothetical

2938
02:52:23,430 --> 02:52:27,030
that you've just described, to
try to tease out a particular

2939
02:52:27,060 --> 02:52:30,480
issue with with respect to
consent. With respect to your

2940
02:52:30,480 --> 02:52:31,170
last point, you

2941
02:52:31,170 --> 02:52:35,970
also quoted Professor McKinnon,
who wrote, quote, sexuality is

2942
02:52:35,970 --> 02:52:39,990
to feminism, what work is to
Marxism? Let me ask you again.

2943
02:52:39,990 --> 02:52:41,130
What does that mean?

2944
02:52:41,490 --> 02:52:45,300
Senator, I was summarizing
different theories that people

2945
02:52:45,360 --> 02:52:50,250
were presenting. So that way I
could explain them and and then

2946
02:52:50,250 --> 02:52:54,360
employ an analysis with respect
to the issue of, of what consent

2947
02:52:54,390 --> 02:52:58,350
was in the context of sexual
assault back in 30 years ago,

2948
02:52:58,620 --> 02:53:01,500
I think your views are far far
out of the mainstream.

2949
02:53:01,680 --> 02:53:06,720
Adam Curry: Senator Welch. Wow,
Jesus come quickly. This world

2950
02:53:07,200 --> 02:53:09,030
John C Dvorak: guys this world
they keep putting these

2951
02:53:09,030 --> 02:53:12,150
characters up and these guys you
know, and they did the Democrats

2952
02:53:12,150 --> 02:53:14,820
run the Senate, so they passed
the guy through anyway.

2953
02:53:15,570 --> 02:53:19,380
Adam Curry: The really this guy
this guy gets gets gets the nod.

2954
02:53:19,830 --> 02:53:21,360
John C Dvorak: I'd be surprised
if he didn't.

2955
02:53:22,770 --> 02:53:26,760
Adam Curry: Oh, man, this is so
wrong. These people. These

2956
02:53:26,760 --> 02:53:27,720
people are weird

2957
02:53:27,750 --> 02:53:31,680
John C Dvorak: black guy, too. I
should mention. And, and a

2958
02:53:31,680 --> 02:53:32,370
Muslim?

2959
02:53:33,690 --> 02:53:36,240
Adam Curry: Well, neither of
those are disqualifying. But the

2960
02:53:36,240 --> 02:53:38,490
John C Dvorak: No, it's not. But
if you think that all sex is

2961
02:53:38,490 --> 02:53:43,260
rape, you should be just kicked
off to you should even be doing

2962
02:53:43,260 --> 02:53:44,040
anything. He's

2963
02:53:44,070 --> 02:53:47,610
Adam Curry: so odd, man. Okay,
well, that's thoroughly

2964
02:53:47,610 --> 02:53:50,850
depressing. What states what
states? Are they going to be

2965
02:53:50,850 --> 02:53:51,990
federal judges in?

2966
02:53:53,400 --> 02:53:55,470
John C Dvorak: I don't know. I
have no idea where he's getting

2967
02:53:55,470 --> 02:53:56,070
assigned.

2968
02:53:57,240 --> 02:54:00,720
Adam Curry: All right. I would
like to end with some big

2969
02:54:00,720 --> 02:54:06,300
pharma. Because I'm confused.
Now. I'm not sure. First of all,

2970
02:54:06,300 --> 02:54:09,480
we will write ozempic And we'll
go v not necessarily good for

2971
02:54:09,480 --> 02:54:13,290
your health. No, but I'm trying
to figure out what I mean. I

2972
02:54:13,290 --> 02:54:16,050
think I know what's going on
here in the casino. Obviously,

2973
02:54:16,050 --> 02:54:19,950
they spent $500 million in the
last seven months on

2974
02:54:19,950 --> 02:54:23,220
advertising, marketing,
underwriting, native ads,

2975
02:54:23,220 --> 02:54:26,010
whatever you want to call it,
whatever you want to call it. So

2976
02:54:26,010 --> 02:54:31,350
CBS Evening News has the first,
I would say overly positive

2977
02:54:31,530 --> 02:54:32,760
ozempic story.

2978
02:54:32,790 --> 02:54:36,000
Unknown: It turns out popular
drugs used to suppress appetite

2979
02:54:36,000 --> 02:54:40,170
like ozempic and we go we may
have an economic side effect.

2980
02:54:40,260 --> 02:54:43,860
People who take them appear to
be buying less food at Walmart.

2981
02:54:43,860 --> 02:54:46,980
Yeah. Where today Elodie
Nicholas got her prescriptions

2982
02:54:47,100 --> 02:54:48,360
and her groceries?

2983
02:54:48,390 --> 02:54:52,770
Yeah, absolutely. I believe that
I buy unless she started

2984
02:54:52,770 --> 02:54:57,120
taking ozempic After having two
heart attacks, and she's lost 36

2985
02:54:57,120 --> 02:54:59,970
pounds since May has it changed
what you eat?

2986
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:06,180
100% This stuff turns my
stomach. My topic heart used to

2987
02:55:06,180 --> 02:55:08,640
be all the fluid because I'd
have all the junk and the sodas

2988
02:55:08,640 --> 02:55:12,600
and all that now it's, it's half
or less than half of what it

2989
02:55:12,600 --> 02:55:13,110
used to be.

2990
02:55:13,230 --> 02:55:16,020
Walmart has one of the most
sophisticated systems for

2991
02:55:16,020 --> 02:55:19,920
collecting data on its shoppers
and US CEO John Ferner told

2992
02:55:19,920 --> 02:55:22,920
Bloomberg, they've seen smaller
checkouts from people taking

2993
02:55:22,920 --> 02:55:25,830
these medications. We do see a
slight pullback and overall

2994
02:55:25,830 --> 02:55:29,730
basket less units slightly less
calories. Does it surprise you

2995
02:55:29,730 --> 02:55:33,210
that Walmart's looking at this
sort of data? I think every you

2996
02:55:33,210 --> 02:55:35,700
know, large retailer is looking
at this sort of data they have

2997
02:55:35,700 --> 02:55:39,330
the data. Through their loyalty
programs. Leo feller is Chief

2998
02:55:39,330 --> 02:55:42,630
Economist at numerator, a
company that analyzes shopping

2999
02:55:42,630 --> 02:55:44,490
receipts for millions of people,

3000
02:55:44,640 --> 02:55:48,570
and then we use that data to
help inform retailers to help

3001
02:55:48,570 --> 02:55:50,730
inform food manufacturers health
care

3002
02:55:50,730 --> 02:55:53,910
providers wrote more than 9
million prescriptions for drugs

3003
02:55:53,910 --> 02:55:58,140
use for weight loss in the last
three months of 2022. And Morgan

3004
02:55:58,140 --> 02:56:02,580
Stanley estimates 7% of the US
population will be taking these

3005
02:56:02,580 --> 02:56:04,980
medications by 2035.

3006
02:56:05,040 --> 02:56:08,370
Over the course of the next 10
years. This will likely change

3007
02:56:08,370 --> 02:56:12,060
the way that consumers shop and
what consumers are buying

3008
02:56:12,150 --> 02:56:15,300
for Elodie Nicholas and her
husband. That's already

3009
02:56:15,300 --> 02:56:15,840
happened.

3010
02:56:15,870 --> 02:56:19,710
I buy the groceries so it's also
helping him to eat healthy.

3011
02:56:20,340 --> 02:56:25,230
Adam Curry: Go to eat healthy.
Oh, there you go. 7% of the

3012
02:56:25,230 --> 02:56:28,860
population will die from this
I'm sure this is so bad

3013
02:56:28,980 --> 02:56:31,500
John C Dvorak: to take trying to
kill us all here. Here's

3014
02:56:31,500 --> 02:56:34,110
Adam Curry: the here's the side
effects very concerning, but I

3015
02:56:34,110 --> 02:56:37,830
think this is a secret native ad
at the same time prescription

3016
02:56:37,830 --> 02:56:41,130
drugs used to suppress appetite
and we probably should state

3017
02:56:41,130 --> 02:56:46,950
that we know from scientific
fact and marketing research that

3018
02:56:47,190 --> 02:56:51,000
telling people a product will
kill them makes them buy it

3019
02:56:51,000 --> 02:56:56,550
more. See the cigarette cartons
with horrible diseased lungs and

3020
02:56:56,550 --> 02:57:01,650
hearts and this has only created
more demand for the products.

3021
02:57:01,680 --> 02:57:04,740
Unknown: Prescription drugs used
to suppress appetite have

3022
02:57:04,740 --> 02:57:09,060
exploded in popularity this past
year with social media

3023
02:57:09,060 --> 02:57:13,020
influencers and celebrities
sharing the success they've had

3024
02:57:13,020 --> 02:57:17,940
using the drugs and magnetite
marketed as Wigo V and ozempic

3025
02:57:17,970 --> 02:57:21,390
known technically as GLP. One
agonists

3026
02:57:21,570 --> 02:57:22,710
type two diabetes

3027
02:57:22,740 --> 02:57:24,450
discovered the Zabbix riser

3028
02:57:24,480 --> 02:57:28,350
developed to treat diabetes
Olympics off label use for

3029
02:57:28,350 --> 02:57:32,280
weight loss is driving its
demand. But now a new study from

3030
02:57:32,280 --> 02:57:35,430
the Journal of the American
Medical Association found that

3031
02:57:35,430 --> 02:57:39,900
for every 1000 patients who use
the drug, some suffered moderate

3032
02:57:39,900 --> 02:57:44,100
to severe stomach problems,
including pancreatitis and

3033
02:57:44,100 --> 02:57:46,140
stomach paralysis. Yeah, each
one

3034
02:57:46,140 --> 02:57:49,920
of these complications could be
serious stuff that could be life

3035
02:57:49,920 --> 02:57:50,340
threatening.

3036
02:57:50,490 --> 02:57:54,360
And while you Langone chief
gastroenterologist Dr. Marco

3037
02:57:54,360 --> 02:57:58,650
Chapin says patients outside of
the drugs target audience are at

3038
02:57:58,650 --> 02:58:02,010
a higher risk for exhibiting
rare side effects.

3039
02:58:02,160 --> 02:58:06,300
The American psyche is given me
a pill or medicine to fix a

3040
02:58:06,300 --> 02:58:06,960
problem.

3041
02:58:07,050 --> 02:58:09,930
The drugs manufacturer Novo
Nordisk responded to the

3042
02:58:09,930 --> 02:58:13,950
findings saying it stands behind
the safety and efficacy of all

3043
02:58:13,950 --> 02:58:18,180
our GLP one ra medicines when
used consistent with the product

3044
02:58:18,180 --> 02:58:20,790
labeling and approved
indications Oh,

3045
02:58:20,880 --> 02:58:26,700
Adam Curry: wow, this is really
tricky. So it's used off label

3046
02:58:27,180 --> 02:58:30,000
and they say no, we stand by our
products as long as you use them

3047
02:58:30,000 --> 02:58:32,640
for what they're intended for
which is type two diabetes,

3048
02:58:33,150 --> 02:58:39,900
right not for weight loss and
and also snuck in here a little

3049
02:58:39,900 --> 02:58:43,470
well you know, if you just do
the the old well if you just you

3050
02:58:43,470 --> 02:58:45,660
know just you want a pill to
lose some weight well, you could

3051
02:58:45,660 --> 02:58:47,850
probably die from that but not
if you're a fat so

3052
02:58:47,880 --> 02:58:51,540
Unknown: the American psyche is
giving me a pill or medicine to

3053
02:58:51,540 --> 02:58:52,560
fix a problem.

3054
02:58:52,650 --> 02:58:55,530
The drugs manufacturer Novo
Nordisk responded to the

3055
02:58:55,530 --> 02:58:59,550
findings saying it stands behind
the safety and efficacy of all

3056
02:58:59,550 --> 02:59:03,810
our GLP one ra medicines when
used consistent with the product

3057
02:59:03,810 --> 02:59:07,320
labeling and approved indication
here comes the study comes as

3058
02:59:07,320 --> 02:59:10,530
drug companies work toward
manufacturing a generic version

3059
02:59:10,530 --> 02:59:13,740
of the drug. Which if
successful, would give more

3060
02:59:13,740 --> 02:59:15,210
people access.

3061
02:59:15,420 --> 02:59:19,620
Adam Curry: rebrand. They're
just going to rebrand with a

3062
02:59:19,620 --> 02:59:24,780
generic which they own is
genius. Well, you know that

3063
02:59:24,780 --> 02:59:26,820
already changed the name
somehow. Well not they're gonna

3064
02:59:26,820 --> 02:59:29,250
rebrand it of course the
complete completely different

3065
02:59:29,670 --> 02:59:32,580
ozempic will go VI that might
kill you, but this new stuff,

3066
02:59:33,540 --> 02:59:35,520
John C Dvorak: which is exactly
the same stuff. It's

3067
02:59:35,520 --> 02:59:38,640
Adam Curry: exactly the same.
What kind of name could they

3068
02:59:38,640 --> 02:59:46,710
could we come up with for them?
If they were to ask us? Poop it

3069
02:59:46,710 --> 02:59:52,320
out.com Yeah, why? No, no, it
has to be a completely new name.

3070
02:59:52,350 --> 02:59:52,710
Yeah, it'd

3071
02:59:52,710 --> 02:59:56,400
John C Dvorak: be still my way.
I say, Wait, how definitely

3072
02:59:56,400 --> 02:59:58,920
would they be nice. They'd like
to put a bunch of words together

3073
02:59:58,920 --> 03:00:03,030
like weight loss. Yeah, loss.
Weight loss.

3074
03:00:03,540 --> 03:00:04,590
Adam Curry: Fat no more.

3075
03:00:05,310 --> 03:00:06,840
John C Dvorak: That's too
obvious.

3076
03:00:07,110 --> 03:00:07,860
Adam Curry: So obvious.

3077
03:00:07,890 --> 03:00:10,470
John C Dvorak: Yes the sound
like something chemical

3078
03:00:10,590 --> 03:00:12,690
Adam Curry: deflate. deflate a
fire.

3079
03:00:14,639 --> 03:00:16,559
John C Dvorak: We have to think
about how about die skinny

3080
03:00:16,589 --> 03:00:19,139
people get paid big bucks and
come up with these names I

3081
03:00:19,140 --> 03:00:24,630
Adam Curry: skinny. I'd like a
skinny like die skinny slim die

3082
03:00:24,630 --> 03:00:26,850
skinny is good. That's good.
Good name because you can just

3083
03:00:26,850 --> 03:00:31,680
call D skinny. Now if people
would wouldn't even notice it.

3084
03:00:32,880 --> 03:00:37,440
Yeah, nice skin. Die skin. Ooh,
die skin. Well, that sounds too

3085
03:00:37,440 --> 03:00:44,220
much like skin. Dice guy. Dice
guy dot dice guy. Yeah. Anal

3086
03:00:44,220 --> 03:00:48,090
leakage. Now guys know troll
Troll. Troll was gone crazy.

3087
03:00:48,240 --> 03:00:50,640
deflate. deflate would be pretty
good.

3088
03:00:50,849 --> 03:00:52,079
John C Dvorak: No, no, no, you

3089
03:00:52,080 --> 03:00:53,820
Adam Curry: don't like I like
dice skinny D scale.

3090
03:00:53,820 --> 03:00:55,980
John C Dvorak: One thing deflate
can't be trademarked.

3091
03:00:56,820 --> 03:01:01,380
Adam Curry: No, it can't. I
guess dice guy. DICE DICE guy

3092
03:01:03,450 --> 03:01:05,640
Unknown: will work on it. Work
on it.

3093
03:01:06,780 --> 03:01:10,470
Adam Curry: Alright, trip trim.
Maybe something was trim, trim,

3094
03:01:10,470 --> 03:01:16,200
trim, trim, lean, trim, trim
Alene. Boy, if they really want

3095
03:01:16,200 --> 03:01:17,250
to know they have to pay us.

3096
03:01:18,120 --> 03:01:20,220
John C Dvorak: We're done. You
have given away free names.

3097
03:01:20,250 --> 03:01:20,400
Yeah,

3098
03:01:20,400 --> 03:01:24,060
Adam Curry: really? You want to
do your AI we do that? Or we do

3099
03:01:24,060 --> 03:01:24,900
that to you the

3100
03:01:24,960 --> 03:01:27,540
John C Dvorak: next time? Yeah,
I'm excited about that. AI is

3101
03:01:27,540 --> 03:01:30,060
annoying to you. You get all

3102
03:01:30,810 --> 03:01:33,240
Adam Curry: we need time to get
worked up about that coming up

3103
03:01:33,240 --> 03:01:36,120
next the no agenda stream.com or
if you're in one of those modern

3104
03:01:36,120 --> 03:01:42,750
podcast apps, stay listening
because we will have oh, I think

3105
03:01:42,750 --> 03:01:46,650
we have the Lotus effect live
with Phoenix and foam boy

3106
03:01:46,650 --> 03:01:51,090
speaking of ozempic every single
week on the Lotus effect. They

3107
03:01:51,090 --> 03:01:55,080
give you an ozempic They give
you an update every week. So

3108
03:01:55,080 --> 03:01:59,190
stay tuned for that. End of show
mixes. Let me see we have on

3109
03:01:59,190 --> 03:02:03,570
deck we've got Dr. Ai. We've got
sir Jeff Smith, Jesse Coyne

3110
03:02:03,570 --> 03:02:08,910
Nelson. And Sir Michael Anthony
is a stellar All Star wide AI

3111
03:02:08,940 --> 03:02:13,140
the mayor, the mayor. The mayor
is in Latin X County. That's

3112
03:02:13,140 --> 03:02:16,050
right. Coming to you from the
heart of the Texas hill country

3113
03:02:16,050 --> 03:02:18,900
here in FEMA Region number six
in the morning, everybody. I'm

3114
03:02:18,900 --> 03:02:19,620
Adam curry.

3115
03:02:20,640 --> 03:02:23,190
John C Dvorak: And from Northern
Silicon Valley where I remain

3116
03:02:23,190 --> 03:02:24,180
I'm John C Devorah.

3117
03:02:24,210 --> 03:02:26,700
Adam Curry: We return on
Thursday right here on the no

3118
03:02:26,700 --> 03:02:30,480
agendas. Please join us for that
for more deconstruction. And as

3119
03:02:30,480 --> 03:02:37,080
always remember to support us at
divorce act.org/na Time talent

3120
03:02:37,080 --> 03:02:40,410
treasure. Go to your Meetup
people connection is protection

3121
03:02:40,410 --> 03:02:45,510
until next time adios mofos Oui,
oui. And such

3122
03:02:49,260 --> 03:02:53,580
Unknown: Nueva York this is your
nail deep in the jungles of

3123
03:02:53,580 --> 03:02:58,440
Latin X America. Oh, no
vacation. I am here to tell the

3124
03:02:58,440 --> 03:03:04,290
migrants I invited to NYC to
nevermind stay home. You heard

3125
03:03:04,380 --> 03:03:07,290
at school he people keep telling
you all that you could come to

3126
03:03:07,290 --> 03:03:12,630
New York City for free money.
Because I said so. We are now

3127
03:03:12,660 --> 03:03:17,970
out of room and we are out of
money. So to all of y'all hop in

3128
03:03:17,970 --> 03:03:21,630
the border like it's the subway
turnstile. I'm gonna tell you

3129
03:03:21,630 --> 03:03:26,670
once I go find new New York is
not a sanctuary city. I repeat

3130
03:03:26,850 --> 03:03:34,080
New York No. So no sanctuary
city is no muss, no fuss

3131
03:03:34,110 --> 03:03:38,370
Dolla dolla bills, y'all. I'm
confident the Senate will pass

3132
03:03:38,370 --> 03:03:42,840
further urgent assistance to
Ukraine later this year.

3133
03:03:43,950 --> 03:03:48,030
Israel receives more US aid each
year than any other country.

3134
03:03:55,020 --> 03:03:57,720
Faced with a surge in illegal
crossings the Biden

3135
03:03:57,720 --> 03:04:01,080
administration has announced it
is waving more than two dozen

3136
03:04:01,080 --> 03:04:04,320
federal laws to add on to the
border wall in southern Texas.

3137
03:04:04,410 --> 03:04:07,110
This is a major reversal for
President Biden food during the

3138
03:04:07,110 --> 03:04:11,430
2020 campaign vowed that not
another foot of wall would be

3139
03:04:11,430 --> 03:04:14,880
constructed under his
administration. Oh no, you're

3140
03:04:14,880 --> 03:04:18,540
just a nother break in no wall.

3141
03:04:33,960 --> 03:04:41,940
Be ready, be the one the best
beauty the friend and everyone

3142
03:04:44,430 --> 03:04:51,870
around us. Brave pushing the
side and open mind

3143
03:04:58,230 --> 03:05:10,020
down on me In the burdens like
broken one she was blinded

3144
03:05:10,020 --> 03:05:17,100
loyalty back to you for a better
life beyond your free

3145
03:05:22,470 --> 03:05:24,360
for someone else

3146
03:05:38,310 --> 03:05:48,720
like to try new Lions for life

3147
03:06:11,940 --> 03:06:15,000
story This has never happened
before in our lifetime

3148
03:06:24,060 --> 03:06:26,280
Adam Curry: many believe and
it's likely true it's the viral

3149
03:06:27,630 --> 03:06:30,480
video many believe and it's
likely true you just get viral

3150
03:06:30,480 --> 03:06:33,870
stuff made me believe and it's
likely true if you have

3151
03:06:35,910 --> 03:06:37,350
Unknown: many believe and it's
likely true

3152
03:06:37,380 --> 03:06:39,810
Adam Curry: these vaccines are
safe they're effective many

3153
03:06:39,810 --> 03:06:42,540
believe and it's likely true.
You're gonna die and this is

3154
03:06:42,540 --> 03:06:43,320
from a doctor

3155
03:06:51,180 --> 03:06:57,810
Unknown: MoPhO boruch.org/in A
This is blatant sexism

