John C Dvorak: This is what broadcasting has become. Adam
curry, John C. Devora.
Adam Curry: September 24 2023. This is your award winning give
our nation media assassination episode 1593. This
Unknown: is no agenda.
Adam Curry: We're all out of room and we're broadcasting live
from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here. And reason number
six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where everybody
notices that they steal material from us. I'm John C. Dvorak.
Adam Curry: Buzzkill. Oh, do we have another theft report?
John C Dvorak: I got a three part clip.
Adam Curry: Well, a three part clip of them of them, whoever
whoever them is, Steve, a
John C Dvorak: news Australia guy new stealing
Adam Curry: from us. Please
Unknown: know that it gives me no great pleasure to report
this. But this week, the world got an up close look at Joe
Biden appears that he really is coming apart before our eyes.
The occasion for this examination was the annual
meeting of the UN General Assembly in New York, when the
world's leaders gather at that great temple of uselessness that
is the United Nations to put on a show to convince the rest of
us they know what they're doing.
Adam Curry: So hello, hello Phoebe's Okay, so already,
they're stealing our our setup. Phoebe? Yes, I know. It's Sky
News, Australia. They're thieves. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: I don't blame her for marking Me neither.
Unknown: Good luck with that. And of course, leading the pack
here was our man, Joe Biden. Here he was addressing the
leaders of the globe. And I tell you what, I feel pretty bad for
some of the folks who are doing simultaneous translations
of our institutions and drive creative new partnerships. Let
me be clear, certain principles are in the national system are
sanker sacrosanct.
certain principles about about your guess is as good as mine.
Then there was this little meeting with the president of
Brazil, which played out more like a hearing aid commercial
you might hear on talkback radio.
Wow. And to say
to President Bae, can you hear me President Biden? This is a
historical moment for Brazil, and for the US.
Are you there? President Biden, it's me, Margaret Biden, of
course forgot to shake the Brazilian President's hand to
his great delight. Not that there was this bizarre moment
when meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Joe
Biden made the side of the cross check that over 40 years our
friendship goes a long way and take us a long way. I'm sorry,
let's just see that again. This is just it's just all too weird.
Had enough faith in but Gora note that it is also in this
meeting that Bibi Netanyahu spoke off the cuff while Biden
of course needed those note cards, he always holds on to to
speak because we know what happens when he goes off script.
Adam Curry: You know, except we do it in less time than these
guys tell.
John C Dvorak: This is the point. This is actually a well
structured shaggy dog story, the punch lines in clip three. But
it's a shaggy dog story, and you'll see how it's structured
at the very end. Go to two
Unknown: meanwhile, Kamala Harris, the woman whose mere
existence as vice president makes the Secret Service's job
so easy, well, she's just making friends everywhere she goes, You
know,
when we think about minority, small business owners and let's
be more specific about Latinos mound is just Yes, it is.
Restaurants but it is so much more.
So basically there if you read between the lines, Kamala Harris
thinks that Latinos just don't taco stands or something, I
guess. Which means that when she saw Jill Biden called Mexicans
breakfast burritos at one time, she was just thinking, hold my
beer. Now, at this point, I gotta wonder, is this whole
shambling, stuttering clumsy Biden routine? I mean, look,
it's declined, but maybe it's not. Could it be that there's
something else entirely going on? Sometimes I see. Maybe he's
actually putting on an act. So people underestimate him or
don't realize that he is the mastermind of this whole huge
sort of behind the scenes operation. I don't know maybe
Joe Biden is playing it up like a cry for help. political
pressure builds to allow him to gracefully retire, rather than
be forced to keep doing the job to please Jill or whomever it
is. I don't know.
Adam Curry: I know where this is leading. I know we're
John C Dvorak: finding a classic shaggy dog story and you do it
once in a while on the show. You do to veer off things, usually
two or three of them and they've Kamla Harris materials got
nothing to do with anything. But that's what you do when you do a
shaggy dog to kind of keep the person interested by trying it
by me. Making semi interesting little asides, but here's the
part where they steal our material.
Unknown: Sometimes just sometimes, this whole thing
reminds me a little bit of the old New York City mobster,
Vincent Chin Gigante, for years threw off the authorities, by
putting a lot of public acts suggested he was in fact, just
himself a harmless shuffling mentally ill wanderer, when in
fact, he was a criminal mastermind in charge of a whole
criminal enterprise. From a member of the Lucchese crime
family, John Puglisi explained this a bit more here.
Besides taking trips to psychiatric hospitals, chin was
known to wander around Greenwich Village on shaven, wearing
pajamas, a bathrobe and house slippers muttering gibberish, he
talked to telephone poles and parking meters and urinate at
will in the street, and at times, randomly dropped to his
knees and cross himself
randomly making the side of the cross you say? Yeah, sure. It's
just a coincidence.
You mean, though he actually does a call
Adam Curry: back they stole from you is what you're saying.
John C Dvorak: But I admire the the structure of what they did,
especially with the call back to the sign of the cross. Which
guarantee I guess, supposedly,
Adam Curry: okay, I didn't know that. That part I'd never heard.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. So Ben died. And Biden does it all the
time.
Adam Curry: Dude, that show I mean, he was right in first clip
one. It's just all a show. I'm so tired of the show. This this
all show is the show. And maybe, you know, maybe, maybe it will
get better. Let me see. Maybe it will get better when this gets
taken care of. Where am I here? Yes. Oh, my. The Hollywood
Unknown: writers union plans to meet with producers for a third
straight day, as a source tells NBC that they are inching toward
a deal to end the nearly five month long strike for studio
heads join the talks for a second day yesterday, staying
late. It was a 10 hour marathon session, progress was reported
in areas such as the use of artificial intelligence and
residuals. However, some significant issues still remain.
So even if the writers strike is resolved, the studio still have
to reach a crop contract deal with the union actors. And they
walked out in mid July.
Adam Curry: And no one noticed. And no one cared. No one no one
is complaining. Well, we had one complaint, we had one complaint
from a producer, a dad who said Oh, I sure hope my my son's ones
producer. And once an editor can go back to work. That's the only
person who's complained about it. No one cares.
John C Dvorak: This, it's like anyone involved would complain,
but they don't listen to our show. But
Adam Curry: it's a tipping point. That's what this is.
There's tipping points about a boot tipping point everywhere
where it peak Ukraine war, we're at peak M five M nobody cares.
And I think I have to remind myself every single time we're
heads down in this stuff, we're examining, and over examining
and re examining what the media is doing what what they're
trying to say what the towards, you know, the it's the elite
messaging system is trying to communicate. But most people No,
go to work, you know, drive the bus, drive the forklift, you
know, whatever, drive the plane, fly the plane, go to the office,
and then thing they may catch some news from time to time and
depending on what what bubble they're in, they'll hear this or
that you know, something about this or something about that,
and you know, whatever the topic is, and okay, they live in their
lives. So it takes and we concluded this on the last
episode takes a long time before people start to figure stuff
out, like COVID for instance, you know, I think people now
this isn't a number of people who never gonna reach. But
people like me know, you know, I'm steering more and more about
how that stuff didn't work. And now they're bringing it back.
And yeah, I'm I'm questioning and I would say worldwide at
this moment. Everybody is slowly waking up and going hold on a
second. Who are all these people in our country? Every single
country. I have story after story after story of asylum
seekers, and the issues that they've brought in Europe,
France, Lampedusa, Italy, Germany. The the President said
we've reached our limit of migrant intake, Maloney, no
more, no more in Lampedusa, Sweden. It's like we have gang
warfare. We can't have this anymore. What is going on? on
France,
Unknown: the French interior minister Gerald Darma, now
arrived in Rome on Monday to discuss the latest migration
crisis with his Italian counterpart Matteo Pianta dosi.
A few days ago, both ministers expressed a common will to
tighten EU border security step up the fight against human
traffickers at the sandy joint address to the EU leadership on
the matter.
Because there's been so much politicization of this that
politicians need short fixes they need slogans back to say we
are on top of it doesn't work like that we have to explain to
public opinion that these are complex issues that require time
resources and different solutions. But that's the only
way it les
in particular has tightened measures including increasing
the time for which suspects involved in human trafficking
can be detained and investigated, as well as more
opportunities to repatriate those who have no legal right to
stay in the country.
Adam Curry: It is so bad in Europe, especially in France,
which has been going on for decades now. So bad, they had to
bring in the big guy
Unknown: Pope Francis has urged European states to welcome
migrants and not to treat them as invaders. He delivered his
message ahead of a Saturday mass in the French city of Marseille.
The Pope used his visit to the Mediterranean port city to weigh
into the migrant debate as governments react to a surge in
new arrivals. 10s of 1000s turned down for Pope Francis has
mass a mass worship has packed the sports stadium for his
sermon with a message proved political as well as spiritual.
The bonda have used his two day visit to advocate for refugees
and migrants. He's urging European governments to welcome
people arriving on the shores and our metropolitan
cities, and many European countries like France, where
different cultures and religions coexist. We have a great
challenge against the exasperation of individualism,
and the selfishness, and closures that produce loneliness
and suffering.
recent weeks have seen a sharp increase in migrant boats trying
to cross the Mediterranean to reach Europe. The Pope is
pleased to welcome those arrivals goes against the
policies of many EU governments. But his message has resonated
with worshipers in my say, a fourth setting which has long
been a meeting point as a cultures and religions.
Adam Curry: The Guardian just for the Pope to do that. It's
like Oh, okay.
John C Dvorak: Where's the communist?
Adam Curry: Well, yes, he's a he's a Jesuit from Argentina.
This we knew this is now we know why he's in there. This is his
job now. Oh, no, everything's okay. Love your neighbor. They
would not really your neighbors, but okay. Now they are. They
weren't your neighbors when they came in? I don't want to say
anything about bad about the Pope. But
John C Dvorak: I mean, come on as well. You already have it.
Well, the this is not this what this guy is a part of the entire
Marxist revolution that's taking place right before our eyes of
redistribution of wealth by bringing in Yes. Every poor
person in the world you can find.
Adam Curry: Yes, he changed the entire Catholic church system in
China. Everyone's gone underground. Many Catholics I
communicate with lay down we don't like this guy. But Serbian
police step up migration patrols on the border with Hungary. The
Guardian writes, migration could be dissolving force for the EU.
John C Dvorak: In there's always a bright side.
Adam Curry: The home office in the UK has determined Hey, you
know, if we have if we have migrants coming in, they have to
have at minimum a three star hotel. So people are getting
angry and this has been going on for over a decade, February 2011
David Cameron, this is a clip that we played back then who
remembers him saying this? What I'm
Unknown: about to say, is drawn from the British experience. But
I believe there are general lessons for us all. In the UK.
Some young men find it hard to identify with the traditional
Islam practiced at home by their parents, whose customs can seem
staid when when transplanted to modern Western countries. But
these young men also find it hard to identify with Britain
too, because we've allowed the weakening of our collective
identity. Under the doctrine of state multiculturalism. We've
encouraged different cultures to live separate lives apart from
each other. And apart from the mainstream, we fail to provide a
vision of society to which they feel they want to belong We've
even tolerated these segregated communities, behaving in ways
that run completely counter to our values.
Adam Curry: And this is Cameron over the UK might as well have
been about Germany, about Sweden about anywhere in France.
Unknown: So when a white person holds objectionable views, race
us, but we're getting there, we rightly condemned them getting
there and
Adam Curry: getting to those clips, that's next
Unknown: level views or practices come from someone who
isn't right. We've been too cautious, frankly, frankly, even
fearful to stand up to them.
Adam Curry: So that he this is the speech where he winds up by
saying multiculturalism has failed. That was in 2011. And
now Now people because no who's gonna listen to that guy in
2011? If you're just doing your job, you got a family and you're
trying to live life. Now. People are starting to see it. And even
Chicago, the big sanctuary city is now seeing what's really
going on
Unknown: as the city looks to move migrants to 10 cities. This
new contract reveals Chicago has agreed to pay gardaworld $29
million.
Adam Curry: So this is for the winter base camp, that we've
been talking about the past couple of episodes, and without
any vote or anything. The mayor just said yeah, you guys come on
this garter world, its security company they have no experience
with migrants, refugees, asylum seekers, human beings. All they
do is different types of security even showbiz
personality security. This is not their wheelhouse.
Unknown: Even the mayor's point person for migrants on the city
council says
I do recognize that an executive branch has the latitude to be
agile in a moment of crisis so I get why some of this stuff moves
quickly. Clearly, we all have questions.
The fine print of the deal reveals Garga will provide
security three meals a day, daily childcare, seven days a
week, Van transport to school and doctor as well as laundry.
Adam Curry: This is the city this is the same company but
this is the same company that they hired to bus asylum seekers
into Chicago,
Unknown: he notes Garda is considered a preferred
contractor by the state of Illinois. This is a contract
that the state has started. They use them for various purposes
and
Adam Curry: like busing my transit to the state they're
continuing to and so we piggybacked
Unknown: on
it the city of Denver pulled out of a deal, it had to build
similar type provisions for migrant citing, quote, concerns
grew about the international company's history of alleged
abuses and mistreatment as well as its lack of experience in
sheltering migrants. Alderman Ray Lopez questions why Garda?
The same company that has a Florida contract to send
migrants here. Now we'll make millions to care for them. The
fact that
we're spending $29 million on a tent city system that probably
won't even function in sub zero weather Chicago style. It's just
amazing to me,
the contract also displays photos of what the base camps
will look like, with promises when the temperature is 40
degrees, it will be 70 degrees inside
Adam Curry: that, John, you've lived in Chicago, it's 40
degrees, a typical Chicago winter. No, more like 20
degrees, more like zero, it's gonna be 40 degrees. And then
inside it will be 70. What's it going to be one zero.
Unknown: Also today, elected officials and activists reacted
to the Biden administration to allow some migrants those from
Venezuela, July to apply for work permits. They want that
extended to more than just now the city does estimate that of
the 14,000 migrants sent here. 5000 are from Venezuela.
Adam Curry: Alright, so this is I don't this is very
interesting. All of a sudden, oh, Venezuelans are okay. Hmm.
How did this happen? Something switched and it has nothing to
do with the cities. As you can even hear in this short clip
from New York City Mayor Eric Adams. He doesn't even think
that the President's coming to town won't even meet with him.
Unknown: President Biden is coming to the city. I am hoping
that he understands this beautiful city, this economic
engine of the entire country. What
Adam Curry: is New York, the economic engine of the entire
country?
John C Dvorak: I think if they're there, they're probably
putting all their eggs in the financial bath. Oh, God make the
argument. Okay,
Unknown: it's been saddled with a $2 billion that we spent
already $5 billion were going to spend in his fiscal crisis $12
billion in the next two budgetary cycles. New York don't
don't deserve this. The asylum seekers don't deserve this. And
so while he's here, I think that they should really reflect on
New York City has done his spot and where once we know what I'm
going to do, we released the public schedule. I'm very
public, everybody knows who I am you guys. were released. We're
going to be with you The president or not?
Adam Curry: President you know, I'm here I got the schedule. You
can meet me anytime you want. No, he's been sidelined HK role
is in charge of this operation and an OP it is
Unknown: because New York City has had this pulled is 40 year
old right to shelter people have come to New York City. And
that's another area, the mayor and I need to look at this
together. And we are looking at it and trying to figure out a
way that we can say this was intended to help homeless people
stay off the streets help families, but it was never
intended to be an unlimited universal right and obligation
to shelter the entire world. And that's the way it's been
interpreted. So once that gets fixed, as well as this
opportunity to the Venezuelan opportunity to take a lot of
pressure off, but we really need to stop the incoming we're still
seeing about 3000 a week. That's absolutely unsustainable.
Adam Curry: So I want to get back to Hoko in a moment, but
something happened. There was a switch it must have happened
months ago and word went out. Venezuelans come on in
Unknown: deteriorating conditions in Latin America,
made worse by the COVID 19 pandemic has increased the
number of people crossing into the United States from Mexico,
and Venezuela and Rodrigo de has made it to the Mexican border
city of quietism. Friday, he is just happy to be alive after
riding the beast train a dangerous free trade that
migrants take to the border.
Adam Curry: Just living off master because we didn't have
any foods. And later I had to sell my show so I could eat.
Unknown: But there's hope the Biden administration has
announced that they would allow hundreds of 1000s of Venezuelans
already in the United States to live and work legally.
Washington is also pressuring Mexico to do more to stem the
flow of immigration. On Tuesday, Mexico's Main Railway Company
temporarily suspended the B strain because so many migrants
are climbing aboard and getting hurt in the process.
Adam Curry: So this beast train reminiscent of you know, trains
in India, everybody totally hanging off of it. So, so
somewhere something happened and this is this is a setup. This is
a setup. And New York is going to suffer but New Yorkers are
going to suffer. Because of all of a sudden we they were
telegraphing this when AOC was out there and in front of the
Roosevelt, the Roosevelt Hotel, which I've loved the reports
about the Roosevelt held the luxury Roosevelt Hotel, okay,
know, if you've if you've ever stayed in the Roosevelt Hotel.
It's far from luxurious, but it's now it's now asylum seekers
central notice the subtle switch from migrants to asylum seekers.
And for some reason, we've decided half a million
Venezuelans will be able to stay here and work here. And as AOC
was saying, I guess a path to citizenship. Luckily, New York
one got Hoko on the phone. This is the local New York television
station, and I have a couple of clips and maybe we can figure
out what is going on here.
Unknown: Thanks for being here with us on this busy Wednesday
night. I'm Cheryl wills. And we begin with breaking news as we
come on the air out of Washington, the Biden
administration announcing just moments ago, that it will make
hundreds of 1000s of Venezuelan migrants eligible for legal
status and work permits, it will impact nearly a half million
asylum seekers. More than 40% of migrants who have come through
the city since the immigration crisis began are Venezuelan
Mayor Adams responding tonight saying I want to thank President
Biden for hearing our entire coalition including our hard
working congressional delegation, and taking this
important step that will bring hope to the 1000s of Venezuelan
asylum seekers currently in our care who will now be immediately
eligible for Temporary Protected Status.
Adam Curry: What happened in Venezuela that all of a sudden
we had to let them in to come here and work? Do you have any
idea?
John C Dvorak: Well, it was, it was it's their government that
that bankrupted the state, the Maduro regime and communist
government that drove all these people. That middle class of
Venezuela drove them into poverty. And I think we allowed
them to come in because we tried to overturn that government if
you don't remember that yes, a few years ago with that skinny
guy who is useless and and so I think somewhere along the line
we told him to open the spigot, yeah, you can come in. This only
thing I can think of that I think is a huge mistake for the
Democrats because these people can easily become Republicans
Adam Curry: will listen to these next few clips of Hokulea. She
talks about why this has to happen.
Unknown: Governor thank you for your time tonight. We understand
this new TPS status that
Adam Curry: TPS status is typically for see we have TPS
status and it's always limited by the way, there's always a
limitation. We had it for Haitians after the earthquake. I
think that's just been extended, extended extended. There's been
other TPS, but this this is a
John C Dvorak: way started referred to the TPS report being
made
Unknown: available. Yeah, that'd be great to Venezuelan migrants
and asylum seekers is a result of your conversation with
President Biden yesterday. Can you give us some insight into
that conversation?
Well, this is something that the President knows we have been
asking for back from July of 2020. To between myself and
Mayor Adams and majority leader Schumer and Senator Gillibrand
and our delegation.
Adam Curry: Okay. So all of the New Yorkers, Schumer,
Gillibrand, they've been asking for this since 2022, to have
Venezuelans come in and work here instead of, I don't know,
New Yorkers,
Unknown: we've all been working so hard to persuade the White
House that these individuals who came to this country and are
living in New York City shelters, don't have to they
came here to work.
Adam Curry: That's not what asylum is about. Asylum is for
very specific circumstances, not work. That's a work, migrant,
that's not an asylum seeker.
Unknown: And if we could find a path, particularly for the
Venezuelans, which is about 40% of the population or shelter, if
they could get temporary protective status, that allows
them to work after 30 days, instead of after 180. We can
start to clear out the shelters and give them the jobs. And it
also serves the purpose of meeting this demand we have for
Republicans in every corner of New York.
Adam Curry: What serving the purpose of Republican the
demands of Republicans. Am I hearing this? Correct?
John C Dvorak: That's what it sounded like. But it can't be
it, we can
Unknown: start to clear out the shelters and give them the jobs.
And it also serves the purpose of meeting this demand we have
for Republicans in every corner of New York for more workers.
Adam Curry: So the Republicans in every corner of New York want
more workers and the demands are met by bringing in Venezuelans
who have temporary protective status.
John C Dvorak: I don't know what we did some she tried to say
something else. She couldn't possibly that sentence makes
zero sense. Well, I'm wondering why she right. Why did you do
anything to the demands of any Republican?
Adam Curry: Well, I think she's the only way I can interpret it.
And we have an another clip after this is that she means
Republicans who have no need workers. Let me see. Forget,
even if we take away the Republican part. They aren't
they're New Yorkers who want to work on their people from other
states who want to work and will move to New York to work.
John C Dvorak: It's got to be just a it's like a typo.
Unknown: This is an important step. I thank the President for
answering our call for help. This is an important first step.
We have other requests still out there, no doubt about it. And
we'll continue those conversations. But the state is
committed to coming to work with Mayor Adams to ensure that these
people are connected to jobs. As soon as they legally can.
They're able to work.
Adam Curry: So we're, I mean,
John C Dvorak: this is what has to have happened when we did
that file up in Venezuela, where we try to overturn Maduro and
bringing the Obama guy and bring into Obama. Exactly. That's
right. That's the guy looked like Obama, that guy kind of
acted like,
Adam Curry: we just pretended that he that he was the
president for a while too. We just
John C Dvorak: can't he was the president. We had to have to get
support. Ah, now your State Department had to do deals.
Yeah. We'll let we'll let all your prisoners back. You have
Don't worry what if anything bad happens. You can come here.
We'll give you a job.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Send your prisoners here. Open up the
floodgates. Well, Governor Holcomb is excited.
Unknown: And I'm really excited about this opportunity to start
making a dent in something that New Yorkers have been dealing
with for a long time. And I want to make sure that we can ensure
they're able to work and we've been saying, get them to work.
Let them work. This has been our
Adam Curry: how many New Yorkers have been saying this, get them
that we need. We need Venezuelan, we need Venezuelans
to work wreck and get them to work a
Unknown: rallying cry for such a long time in the business
community. Cathy whilst
Adam Curry: there she says it's been a cry in the business
community crying
Unknown: for such a long time in the business community. Kathy
wild and a partnership stepped up. Our friends and labor have
been extremely helpful all across New York. Many people
just want them to be able to work and fill a hole huge void
we have right now. The fact that 1000s and 1000s of jobs foreign
and 60,000 jobs are unfilled, okay?
Adam Curry: My one of my stepdaughters is in New York
it's not like a 60,000 She's it's jobs are not for the just
picking up everywhere. It's not true. I mean waitress even even
jobs serving food. It's not they're not like a dime a dozen.
I don't know about the rest of New York State. But 460,000 jobs
are we're just we can't wait to get people
John C Dvorak: to work their days like to hang in there for
the easy pickins Yeah.
Unknown: 1000s of jobs form and 60,000 jobs are unfilled. In the
state of New York right now we have a low unemployment rate
were the lowest in the nation. We have to have more workers.
And this is going to be a very, very positive development for
our state's economy. Please individuals in our desire to
start not opening more shelters, but starting to shut down
shelters. Sorry.
Adam Curry: So now we're gonna start everyone. You're not
Venezuelan. You're out. We're gonna kick you out. And where
are you gonna go? Well, Governor hopeful knows.
Unknown: And Governor, what's your message to the 10s of 1000s
of asylum seekers and migrants who are not from Venezuela, who
may be disappointed that they are not included?
Adam Curry: Go pound sand?
Unknown: Well, this is something that we're just happy to even
get this foot in the door. We have been asking for a reduction
in time for all the work status for everyone. But
John C Dvorak: kind of a metaphor is that we're just
getting a foot into what foot and what door? I got you answer
a question like that. What are you going to do? Here's the
question, what are you going to do about all these other people
that aren't Venezuelans? Well, this is getting a foot in the
door foot in what door? What are you talking about
Adam Curry: the foot in the door of replacing Americans with
asylum seekers for work is the only logical explanation? Oh,
I'm sorry, did I just give you the big replacement theory? Like
Europe?
Unknown: Well, this is something that we're just happy to even
get this foot in the door. We have been asking for a reduction
in time for all the work status for everyone.
Adam Curry: Oh, there it is. We want everybody who comes in
seeking asylum to be given jobs. And we'll connect them with
jobs.
Unknown: But I will not look a gift horse in the mouth. This is
an important first step, and to others that we have to let
people know, if you're thinking of coming to New York, we are
truly out of space. The mayor has done a
John C Dvorak: three way stop. They're out of space, but they
get plenty of jobs. I know. How do you have 400 And you know,
almost a half a million jobs and you're out of space. So how are
you supposed to do that makes zero sense what she just said?
Well, because you're coming to New York, we're out of space. So
I'm a tourist. I can't find a hotel room. Probably no, you
can't.
Adam Curry: Because the cheapest hotel the Roosevelt is filled
with asylum seekers. It's right there. There anyway. But I have
stayed and reeks of weed
Unknown: to others that we have to let people know that if
you're thinking of coming to New York, we are truly out of space.
The mayor has done an extraordinary job managing this
crisis situation. We have been partners in helping him. But
there must be other cities.
Adam Curry: Oh, that's the solution. There must be other
cities, Attention, attention, other cities, we've got some
asylum seekers coming your way
Unknown: or do not have upwards of 125,000 people, or 60,000 in
shelters that can handle the volume easier in other states.
And that's what we want to encourage you
Adam Curry: to do. Yeah, sure.
John C Dvorak: I have to point something out. Somebody pointed
one of our producers pointed this out, according to Abbott,
you know, they're blaming him for shipping all these people
all over the place. But according to this could be
wrong. But I'm sure it's closer to right and then not. According
to him. He's been shipping people to Chicago and beer and
they're all over the place. His total CAD count supposedly, like
say New York is just over 10,000 I heard 16,000 Yeah. Okay, let's
say it's 16,000 They've got 100,000 there Where did all
these other ones How did they get shipped there? Biden. Yes,
blame Abbott and the Texans who is bullcrap they get nothing
very little to do with it.
Adam Curry: 19 seconds left,
Unknown: do not have upwards of 125,000 people over 60,000 in
shelters that can handle the volume easier in other states
and that's what we want to encourage people to do. This has
a cut off date. This has a there's a time limit on it. So
the people that are here will be able to benefit. But those who
come after have to understand that it's a different dynamic
here in New York that we have been generous. We have been
humanitarian in our response. That's who we are. We're at
capacity.
Adam Curry: So now it all comes home to roost and I'm, I'm very,
I'm truly, I sad for these people who get on the beast
train, and who've traveled here under great duress,
John C Dvorak: and they're in gondolas. It looks like they're
headed to Auschwitz.
Adam Curry: And in a way they kind of are. I mean, it's,
you're going from the fat into the fire. I have seen this
happen in Europe for over 25 years. I remember I moved back
in 99, United almost 25 years. The end the Netherlands was
never an immigration country. We are an immigration country in
America, but asylum seekers is different. You want to come into
America, please go through the process. So that has just been
ignored and stimulated and you know, the United Nations the una
I think United Nations migrant agency, they're the ones that
are helping people giving them debit cards to get I mean, this
is it. This is a globalist takeover. And finally people are
starting to see it and it's here to win Littlefoot is seeing it
yes nuts No, no, it's not this is this is what I started my
preamble by saying people said they aren't Yes, people are
seeing it now. The Texans have seen it for a long time. And and
and finally people are going hey, I mean here in
Fredericksburg, but El Paso in other border towns, no, this is
going to explode. And I don't know about New York. But there's
a number of Chicago seams on edge now on edge and people are
not going to stand for it and I mean this this has to end it
will end one way or the other but it's when I don't think
anyone in America is going to let it come to Swedish
proportions that's why we have guns which is why they're trying
to take them away of course. But this yeah COVID All this other
stuff people can disagree but now you're seeing across the
political spectrum and probably extreme left and extreme right
are our bonding together on these things like ah hold on we
got to stop Okay, guys, you said you you had some immigration
stuff from the last episode I thought you would have those in
but you would be Oh, I
John C Dvorak: probably have to go back to the last episode
list. I didn't move them over Do I Have you said you had some so
obviously I do. This is Oh, yeah, this is what this is
basically the cost of immigration hearings. You can
look it up as cost of immigration hearing clsd Okay,
yes, I have an h i am not spelling because he can't
because Adam can't spell is because I have to spell these
things out. Because half the time that I'll spell something
and in fact, in this case, I got capital Oh. I have to spell out
because I tend to typo to the to a max.
Adam Curry: Well, it's okay from episode to episode. But you
know, five years from now, it'd be like what was that clear
John C Dvorak: problem.
Unknown: lawmakers expressed contrasting opinions during the
House Committee on Homeland Security's hearing called the
financial cost of May Yorker says open border on Wednesday,
lawmakers examined the cost of the millions of illegal
immigrants crossing into the United States.
This crisis has cost Texas $5 billion last year $5 billion
this year, nine to $10 billion next year.
Lawmakers also expressed how the issue is impacting citizens
Adam Curry: in Brooks County, Texas. sherpani Martinez said
that county officials took pay cuts in order to afford the cost
of burying or cremating illegal aliens found deceased on the US
side of the border man think about that. Why can't we just
turn them into March? Gonna make them mad? Just
John C Dvorak: stop there because we need to make them
your mulch. Yeah, what happened to that idea mulch? That's bull
crap. I don't believe that for a minute. I'm going to take a pay
cut. So I can cremate these corpses that are here there's
got to be funding for that.
Adam Curry: The name who is this
John C Dvorak: word that was the source of this new story.
Adam Curry: Now what is this? Yes, it
John C Dvorak: knows about Texas some guys in Texas. Just play
the end of it again. You'll see what I mean. Okay
Adam Curry: here we go. cremating illegal aliens found
deceased go back in order to afford worth the cost of burying
or cremating illegal aliens found deceased on the US side of
the border? Think think about that. They took a pay cut just
to bury the dead found at the border. Now this is this is just
show business for Ugly people. Oh, yeah. Think about that. When
you someone says think about that. You're trying to compute
trying to tell people create the image in your mind people taking
pay cuts, because they're so humanitarian. There's some some
errors.
John C Dvorak: I said, It's bull crap. But anyway, let's go into
clip to
Unknown: one of the witnesses shared details about the
situation in Yuma, Arizona. We have seen
women approaching the border in labor. I've witnessed that
multiple times.
Adam Curry: This is also just all show just you know, bringing
the human aspect Oh, it's disgusting, to the point where
our emergency room and our maternity ward was overrun.
Unknown: Some lawmakers pointed to New York City Eric Adams
recent comments on the immigration crisis which took
center stage at the hearing. Never in
my life. Have I had a problem that I did not see an end into.
I don't see an end into this. I don't see an ending to this.
This issue will destroy New York City, destroy New York City.
Adams recently said New York City is expected to spend about
$5 billion this year and 6 billion next year to provide for
the immigrants. And the Mississippi Congressman tried to
put the cost in perspective.
So the information you have provided to us says that New
York will spend next year almost as much money as the entire
state of Mississippi spends to find our entire state
government.
But Democrats at the hearing said the immigrants are helping
with the labor shortage and Representative Daliah. Ramirez
said One Day Without Immigrants would cause the US economy to
collapse
yet, we want to talk about how much they're costing us. Here's
the thing, work permits. Immigration reform, oh, they're
adequate visa so that people don't have to come here
illegally. These are all solutions that work to make this
country, the country of American Dream, the country of freedom
and the country of the future.
Adam Curry: Oh, the country of the future. Well, this was what
America has always been. But you're supposed to come in
through. I mean, I have helped many people come in legally.
John C Dvorak: Well, they're due. I'm just going to go back
to California here for a second. Yes. We used to have a program
that all was so bad because the liberals were against it, even
though they're all for this, which was called the Brasero
program, the Brasero program. Yeah. So the Brasero is that
this ended in I don't know. I don't know. I think it ended up
in Reagan's governorship. I'm not sure when it ended. But it
just ended because the liberals were all against it, even though
they're okay with what's going on now. The Brasero program was
buses and buses of agricultural laborers that yes, yes. Up from
Mexico and kept up in the fields in the in the wineries and they
cabbage fields, they let us fields, tomato fields indicate
kept there and in kind of two lousy housing. And then, at the
end of the season, the growing season, the Brasero rose would
be bussed back to Mexico. Everybody was happy as a clam
with this idea.
Adam Curry: This end with Operation Wetback Wasn't that
what what? It was like, oh, it's trying to send y'all back like 3
million they sent back.
John C Dvorak: No, they always said to Brasero is back. To
address
Adam Curry: the overwhelming account of undocumented migrants
in the United States, the Immigration and Naturalization
Service launched Operation Wetback in June of 1954 as a way
to repatriate illegal laborers back to Mexico.
John C Dvorak: So that's not the Brasero program. It's
Adam Curry: what's under the Brasero wiki page. I'm not
saying it's correct, but the Brasero program got out of
control. I think that's what happened.
John C Dvorak: Well, if 54 wasn't a peak of the Brasero it
may have later
Adam Curry: this was 57 operation went back was 57.
John C Dvorak: It may have later but I vaguely remember the whole
thing being it was fine.
Adam Curry: Well, yeah, we I believe that we had agricultural
people go down to the border and say you you just like Home
Depot,
John C Dvorak: but you don't go so far.
Adam Curry: Like you you. Exactly. You You You boop come
on in you stay three months and we send you back and they took
their money back. But now it's like there's no agriculture in
New York per se that I'm aware of it to the you know, like the
wineries and the avocados and, and the nut trees
John C Dvorak: like growing in New York. I love what we grow to
do everything they have a season and they have an agricultural
season. So little limited, it's but they grow everything that we
grow in California more or less, do
Adam Curry: you think that those 400 and the half a million
Venezuelans are all going to be in agriculture? One didn't
John C Dvorak: even consider that. Not until you just
mentioned it. That's that would be ironic, wouldn't it? Now all
only Mexicans. Michelle like Kamla Harris
Adam Curry: is this a kicker you have on this clip here.
Unknown: Recently, a video went viral that showed migrants
riding on Mexican cargo trains heading to the United States.
Now that Mexican freight company has temporarily stopped 60
trains because 1000s of migrants had been hitching rides to the
US border.
Adam Curry: I love the name beast, Dre. I love that name.
John C Dvorak: What's interesting about that train is
that just this was just revealed, like, within the last
week or so, this train is not a new train. Now it's been around
for a while, it's probably been moving people, because you
always everyone wonders how people get from, from Guatemala.
And then this is if they walked the whole way through, you know,
all of Mexico, which is quite a halls 1000s of miles to get to
the border. And then the all of these poor people, both they're
all jumping on this train, and it's been going on for a decade
or longer and not reported on. Thank you media.
Adam Curry: So here's part of the problem. You know, they're
saying, Well, I mean, we've we've had the UN General
Assembly, you know, for the whole past week, and it's all
it's all been about climate change, climate change, all
about climate change, everything climate change. And one of the
lies that is being that the media tries to slip in, which
doesn't really work, but you know, they're trying to do it is
these are climate change refugees? No, they're not there.
They're literally we've heard just get away with that. No,
they're not. But even if want it to be agriculture, the elites
are, are. What's the term there's, they're speaking
against themselves. They're contradicting themselves to an
incredible degree. And I it's a shorty, but I have to bring in
the climate czar, who spoke this week, John Kerry. And he's very
clear, we can't have agriculture. So I don't know
what all these people are going to do in agriculture, because
where we eat will be in bugs.
Unknown: agriculture contributes about 33% of all the emissions
of the world, just so we know. It's 33%, depending a little bit
on how you count it, but it's anywhere from 26 to 33.
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, it's depending on how you calculate
it. What does that even mean watermelon? Between 26 and 33?
Well, that's almost 10%.
Unknown: And we can't get to net zero. We don't get this job
done. Unless agriculture is front and center is part of the
solution. But with a growing population on the planet, we
just crossed the threshold of 8 billion fellow citizens around
the world. We just crossed that and this last year, emissions
from the food system alone are projected to cause another half
a degree of warming. Oh, no. By mid century, on the current
course, that we are today.
Adam Curry: Okay, so with the agriculture we have, we're going
to burn to death. So we need to do something a two
Unknown: degree future.
Adam Curry: What is a two degree future? Oh, no.
Unknown: could result in an additional 600 million people
not getting enough to eat?
Adam Curry: So
John C Dvorak: if the case care of itself, then doesn't it?
Well, you'd think it's like your old Peak Oil argument. Remember?
Adam Curry: Yeah, we have too much agriculture too many
people. So if we keep on going, we'll have less people sounds
like nature,
Unknown: and you just can't continue to both warm the planet
while also expecting to feed it.
Adam Curry: Okay. So we can't have agriculture while expecting
to feed people with agriculture. But this is literally what he's
saying.
John C Dvorak: So he's, the guy is off the rails.
Adam Curry: And you know, he has such a lizard tongue, which, as
we know, you know, the CIA has
John C Dvorak: darting in and out constantly. Yes, what he's
eating while he's talking.
Adam Curry: Well, what that means the CIA interrogation
handbook says when someone sticks their tongue out while
they're speaking, that means like they're spitting out a lie,
you know, as BS BA and he's doing this contented, and he
doesn't have a lizard pointy tongue. It's disgusting,
Unknown: doesn't work. So we have to reduce emissions from
the food system to keep the 1.5 degrees alive. Why do we have to
keep 1.5 degrees? Because scientists
Adam Curry: Ah, here we go. Why? Why do we have to keep under
that 1.5 degree of warming? Because scientists
Unknown: as a basis of physics and mathematics,
Adam Curry: which is physics Because the mathematics,
Unknown: not ideology and politics or party labels or
anything else, as a matter of physics and mathematics, and
some biology and chemistry,
Adam Curry: some biology, Olympiad science is physics,
mathematics, some biology and chemistry
Unknown: told us these are the consequences. And we already see
it happening. And almost everything they've predicted for
30 plus years now,
John C Dvorak: has been wrong way.
Adam Curry: I want to I want everybody to hear him say this,
because it's great classes.
Unknown: And we already see it happening. And almost everything
they've predicted for 30 plus years now is coming true. But
the problem is, it's coming through faster and bigger Oh,
than was in fact
Adam Curry: predicted. So not only for the past 30 years has
everything come true. But it's been coming true faster than
they ever predicted? Faster? I say. Well, let's let's think
about this. Let's go back to 1978. And listen to Mr. Spock
Leonard Nimoy with his famous climate change documentary
climate experts believe the next Ice Age
Unknown: is on its way. According to recent evidence, it
could come sooner than anyone can expect.
And weather stations in
the far north, temperatures have been dropping for 30 years. Long
three of summer ice are now blocked year round. According to
some climatologists, within a lifetime, we might be living in
the next Ice Age.
Adam Curry: Well, John, both you and I were alive in 1978. within
our lifetime has it? Have we come into the ice age?
John C Dvorak: I haven't seen anything change,
Adam Curry: and no agenda episodes. 358. Let's go back and
listen to what we're talking about. More than 10 years ago,
we can't really bring up the fact that you know, it's
everyone's freezing their ass off in the UK, were we supposed
to have no snow ever again, children would only know snow
globes, and they would know movies with snow. That's
John C Dvorak: what they said. And we have to accept that fact.
And by the way, if there's so much record heat every year, why
are there only two days left of natural gas?
Adam Curry: The record heat or was it snow? I don't know. We in
1960s. We knew Paul Ehrlich, who is still still around, I'm still
working for the White House told us very clearly, there's too
many people. This, this has within 10 years it's we're going
to reach a tipping point,
Unknown: the US could be busting out at the seams by the end of
the century. If we do not buy humane means limit our numbers,
then numbers are going to be limited by more famines and
shortages and consequent social conflicts. The idea
that human population was outstripping the Earth's ability
to support mankind was a powerful one. And it was one man
Stanford biologists Paul Ehrlich population growth will kill you
stone cold dead, who pushed the dramatic message home if we
continue to let population grow. And if we continue to exploit
the underdeveloped countries, if we continue to pollute the seas,
with a wide variety of compounds and so on, it's very difficult
for me to figure things holding together for more than another
decade or so.
Adam Curry: Oh, so by 1980, we should have been in dire straits
and dead and completely gone. But oh, all these predictions,
Unknown: and we already see it happening and almost everything
they've predicted for 30 plus years now is coming true, but
the problem is it's coming through faster and bigger than
was in fact
Adam Curry: Yes, come on.
John C Dvorak: The funny thing about air Lake is a book that he
did after the did The Population Bomb which is the race bomb. Oh,
the Rena color prejudiced and intelligent worse
Adam Curry: these people are out these the racists I mean that
now we even have our goodness, I forgot to clip it. There was a
woman on C span. And she called in she says watermelons are
exploding from climate change. And it turns out there's some
subpar shipment of watermelons. And if you leave them out in the
heat, you know, they start to ferment on the inside. Yeah,
that can happen that can happen but it's not like global warming
is making watermelons explode load. It reminds me of okay, I
got to do this. Now. This is because this has to stop with.
We are here as conspiracy therapists to help you and I and
I'm going to help you in a very specific way. So this has not
stopped this and I think this this guy Jason Sherpa may be
ground zero of what is the absolutely In medical
documentation, radiofrequency activated nano liposomes can be
used for controlled combination drug delivery. There's what is
this article, sound waves power, new advances in drug delivery
and smart materials. You know, they've been using ultrasonic
waves to kill cancer cells for quite a while now, although you
don't hear much about it because God forbid we solve something
rather keep those people sick. But this guy has got a large
portion of doom scrollers really riled up,
Unknown: I was asked to share the following message with the
world. Remember, I'm only the messenger what you choose to do
with this information is up to you and your own free will. And
October 4 at 2:22pm Eastern Time, now Emergency Broadcast
System will be activated across the entire United States. Under
the leadership of FEMA disguised as a test. This test will be
used to send a specific high frequency signal to devices like
smartphones, radios and TVs with the intention of activating
graphene oxide, and other nanoparticles that have been
inserted into billions of human beings around the world through
the obvious mediums are the ones that will be affected regardless
of your status. The plan is to also do this and Israel at the
same exact time. Yeah, there are certain organizations that are
doing their best to stop this and both Israel and the United
States. Hopefully, they will be able to stop this and stopping
this in Israel looks promising. But stopping this in the United
States is still up in the air. This will also include Puerto
Rico, Hawaii, and Alaska. Yeah, the October 4 date does not
occur for any reason, the backup plan will be to do it on October
11. At the same time, in the case that this is not able to be
stopped, I asked you all to shut off your phones and all other
relevant devices at 2pm, Eastern Time for a period of two hours
to be safe. This type of wavelength can affect us
physically, mentally, and emotionally. I urge you all to
protect yourself. And I ask you all to share this video far and
wide. Thank you very much for so
Adam Curry: this has been shared far and wide and including the
patent on this technology. Yes. You had a question?
John C Dvorak: Does anyone does he have any clue about how
speaker systems work?
Adam Curry: Well, thank you. So now this technology if there is
real ultrasonic ultrasonic therapies that are being used,
it's called What's it called Sano chemistry. And these and
the frequency range for this to work is 10 kilohertz to three
megahertz. Now, I would say and this is what I think you're
you're about to say is that most speakers kind of drop off at 22
kilohertz. So you're not you're never going to get a tone.
John C Dvorak: Let's be realistic. 22 If a speaker can
attribute actually hit 22 kilohertz, you got a hell of an
expensive speaker on
Adam Curry: your hands and amp and amplifier.
John C Dvorak: And right you also need the amplifier that can
handle that kind of frequency accurately. There's not enough
people don't have that.
Adam Curry: Well, just to make sure. I want to inoculate all of
the no agenda producers. By activating your nanoparticles. I
am going to take it up to 20 kilohertz this May this may
shorten this may reduce our audience significantly, John,
I'm at five kilohertz people are starting to get activated.
People maybe I think we're at an eight kilohertz. We're at nine.
I think we're about to start killing people. John, we're into
10 I can't hear it any more nanoparticles are being
activated from here to Israel 14 1516 at 20 kilohertz, Are we
dead?
John C Dvorak: Are you there? So it was my computer speaker
system. The drop off? If you're actually we're trying to
transmit anything beyond five, it really ends at five you can't
you're not gonna come out and even get 10
Adam Curry: I could still hear 10 I could say I couldn't
John C Dvorak: hear 10 on these speakers.
Adam Curry: So I'm looking at the troll room. I do not see
anyone who had death in the room. And then people many
people have made it. Congratulations, you made it
You're safe. You're safe for the FEMA test. Although some dogs
famous, some dogs did not.
John C Dvorak: There's another there is a nother
Adam Curry: by the way. They need to people need to get on on
social media right now and tell them not to listen to episode
1593 have no agenda because it will kill them. It will activate
the nanoparticles that have been introduced into their bodies by
the obvious means.
John C Dvorak: Yes, so Supposedly, the tick that was
developed and Plum Island to give you a meat allergy. This
one?
Adam Curry: Well, I happen to have a conversation,
John C Dvorak: it was designed to be repelled by a five G
signal. And the reason and the standard chick got out and it's
starting to give people these meat allergies, which are
ruined. You just basically
Adam Curry: go the Alpha gal, the lone star tick Alpha gal.
Yes,
John C Dvorak: that lone star star chit tick. And so they had
to roll out 5g in a hurry to push these ticks away.
Adam Curry: This one I had not heard.
John C Dvorak: We had this at the dinner table from JC who had
heard it.
Adam Curry: And did he believe it? I don't think so. But we had
dinner last night with the ER doctor and his wife. And and,
and he was quite aware of the he was quite aware of the Alpha gal
adjuvant in vaccines and had some thoughts on that which
disagree with the Plum Island 5g idea. In addition to that, I
asked him point blank, have you seen an uptick in what we would
call vaccine adverse events? He says, Oh, yeah. Everybody we
know in healthcare is saying this
John C Dvorak: course they are, they would say if you remember
from the very from the get go and all these nurses were
quitting, because they rather quit and get the jab, which cuts
is a problem that exists till today. There was hearing we had
those early stories about the bad periods and the blood flows.
And all these things were the women and it went on and on and
on right at the beginning of art when we started introducing
these these issues to the show, when we first heard about the
COVID thing being a bio weapon, or at least manufactured or
engineered, which is right at the beginning it was the very
beginning of 2020. So the fact that it's continuing after
billions of shots and surprise anybody well, we might
Adam Curry: as well bring it in now because that's the other
thing that is blanketing the mainstream M five M elite
messaging system airwaves besides tones that will kill you
how many people
Unknown: are actually getting the COVID vaccine right now?
What are you seeing and hearing from patients.
I'm hearing a lot of interest from people who are paying
attention to headlines, especially those who are high
risk
Adam Curry: of getting a lot of attention from people who are
paying attention to headlines. Listen to listen to what they're
saying. I'm
Unknown: hearing a lot of interest from people who are
paying attention to headlines, especially those who are high
risk. He's
Adam Curry: not lying people who pay attention to headlines and
don't read the story. Mainly because it's behind a paywall
these days, they're like, Oh, I saw a headline.
Unknown: So people who have underlying chronic medical
disease, they're immunocompromised, weak immune
systems, parents of younger children, and even people who
might be hanging out with someone who's above the age of
60 or 65. Now we obviously have all her eyes on those numbers
from the last booster, we're less than 20% of people who were
eligible went out and got it but a higher percentage people of
the age of 65 did so right now we're looking at right now is an
interest of people getting it but making sure that they have
access, they know where to get it and that they're going to be
available to all communities regardless of socioeconomic
status
Adam Curry: via not free but available to all community. So
now we have a situation where the the true owners of the
messaging which is the advertisers, which for
television for mainstream is the pharmaceutical industry, just
take a look at the ads. They have a triple a triple play now
we've got COVID we've got flu and RSV
Unknown: in tonight's Healthwatch breaking news. CDC
has just approved Pfizer's new vaccine aimed at protecting
infants from the respiratory illness RSV. The shot now
available in some places is recommended for moms who are 32
to 36 weeks pregnant. Health officials say in the first six
months after birth, a vaccine can reduce a baby's risk of RSV
hospitalization by 57%.
Adam Curry: So it's a vaccine. It's the same type of great
vaccine that Pfizer is brought to you before the one that gives
you a percentage of protection. They're starting off now at 57%.
How was that a vaccine? How, how was that?
John C Dvorak: Do you remember when you first had that paper
that one of these vaccine companies produced
Adam Curry: it was 90 Fighting? What was 95% for the COVID?
John C Dvorak: No, no, I'm talking about back in the day
when you when you found a paper that they were presenting to
investors showing that the vaccines a big moneymaker
Adam Curry: because because you can give medicine to people who
aren't sad. So they
John C Dvorak: in their in as we discussed this day we're going
to do a anti smoking vaccine. They were calling things
vaccines that weren't vaccines back then. And then when we came
to mRNA, which is anything bought a vaccine it's been it's
a crapshoot. Now. Now they've divided you that a vaccine is
the is to stop something is, I don't even think anyone thinks
that anymore.
Adam Curry: Well, if we go to the Today Show, who are the
primary promoters of all things, pharmaceutical, they're all
excited about what Dr. Natalie Azhar has to say,
Unknown: we are back with today's checklist, by all means
come to sweaters and coats and drinks. But it also means we are
on alert for flu COVID and RSV, so
Adam Curry: we are on alert for flu COVID Or it's that it's that
time of the year again, get used to be Hey, we're getting ready
for Christmas. We're getting ready for Halloween around the
corner. We've got spice pumpkin lattes. No, no, now it's now
we're looking at her all day ready to
John C Dvorak: get sick
Unknown: COVID And RSP. So we have some good news for you this
morning free at home COVID tests will be available again started
Adam Curry: free at home COVID.
John C Dvorak: You know how many of those tests I've collected so
far? About 20? At least 20. I have a box full of them at
different brands. I got a whole slew of them. Because they were
giving to me that the pharmacy had a little thing it'd be you
pick up a prescription what's a free COVID tests just ask. So
they give me a bundle of them. And then they go back. Another
bundle and you get to free was a mailed to you at the beginning
from the government. They get that free ones and dropping them
off left and right. There's so many of these tests.
Adam Curry: You got a bundle of them? Well, there's they're
coming back the so again, someone's benefiting free tests.
Unknown: NBC News Medical contributor, Dr. Natalie Azar is
here to walk us through all of the vaccines and boosters out
there, the more
Adam Curry: of the vaccines and the boosters and the nasal
sprays. And it's all groovy.
Unknown: It'll walk us through all of the vaccines and boosters
out there. Good morning. I got my free COVID test yesterday.
Adam Curry: I got my I got my FICO, which is yesterday says
right here my script. I gotta say that,
Unknown: um, so let's start with the flu vaccine.
Adam Curry: Let's start with that. By the way. We one of the
trolls did point out the definition of vaccine has
changed in the dictionary.
John C Dvorak: No, we noticed that when it happened, it
happened on our watch. I know.
Adam Curry: But I just want to remind everybody that a vaccine
is no longer what it was. It's what they said it was going to
be 1213 years ago when they had a big conference. They were
talking it wasn't your smoking. It was cocaine addiction. It was
all kinds of stuff. Okay, yeah, I
John C Dvorak: remember the cocaine was a good one.
Unknown: So let's start with the flu vaccine. Let's talk about
it. Who needs to get it? When should they get it all this
stuff? Okay, so
everybody with a few exceptions over the age of six months is
eligible to get the flu shot. We recommend to get it by the end
of October. It takes about two weeks for those protective
antibodies to kick in.
Adam Curry: Remember, this was the end of October, this was
mascot mask for Halloween.
Unknown: That's what you have to keep in mind. Flu season is
starting about now and heads into the winter. If you're 65
and older, there's a couple high dose shots that you are with the
rest of us in sort of that middle bell curve. It doesn't
matter which one you get because there's a lot of different flu
shot flu shots out there.
Adam Curry: What since what is this middle bell curve?
John C Dvorak: I liked the high dose shot. Let's kill the old
people. They did these other shots haven't done the job.
Right dose high
Adam Curry: dose Yeah, if you're over 65 Take the high dose.
Don't worry, you'll be mulch before you know it. What
Unknown: about the nasal spray?
nasal spray? You know it's all excited. Wow. nasal spray.
What about the nasal spray?
Nasal spray you know every every couple of years we find out oh
maybe it doesn't work as well as the injectable one but it is
available this year and it is a great option for little kids.
This
Adam Curry: literally is like selling the pumpkin spice latte
is available this you Oh right. This is called the nasal spray
Unknown: or needle phobic is indicated for people between the
ages of two and 49. But here's the 40 Oh, I
Adam Curry: miss out. I can't do the nasal spray.
Unknown: There are a couple of exceptions to it. Because I'm
going to
John C Dvorak: hold on a sec. I'm not in the bell curve. What
difference does it make if you can if it works, it works. What
is it? Do you think this spray goes up your nose and goes how
old is this guy?
Adam Curry: And that's why we love you John C divorce
Unknown: vaccine and kids between two and 17 who are
taking aspirin and other certain medications are not meant to get
it.
Adam Curry: Oh, what? When you can't use a nasal spray if
you're taking aspirin.
John C Dvorak: Well, that's not a good thing for Bayer. There's
not
Adam Curry: a good product from whoever's pushing the spray
Unknown: vaccine. So no, it's between two and seven. A teen
who are taking aspirin and other certain medications are not
meant to get it.
Adam Curry: So if you're 18 you're taking aspirin, it's
okay.
John C Dvorak: I mean, this is you confusing
Unknown: people with weakened immune systems, pregnant people
and there's a few other people were thinking about getting the
nasal spray. Check with your doc first just to make sure
Adam Curry: it's a good catch pregnant people. Okay, thanks.
There's more though. That's it because you know, RSV. Now this
is a problem and I think they're being a little cavalier about
it. But remember, the whole idea was you can get your RSV get
your flu shot, get your COVID Chatbot. But are there any side
effects?
Unknown: Let's talk about RSV for milk here because we know
the FDA just approved that first ever RSV vaccine in infants and
toddlers if
Adam Curry: I'm throwing up in my mouth from this like Josh.
Yeah, yeah. You get Are you paid per time you say something like
that? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yes. Exciting is talk about
John C Dvorak: you remember the old get maybe the show still on
the air that the mayor of Cincinnati guy had a talk show
where they people get the fights on the SAT and throw shoes, they
pull a shoe off and throw it? It's more? It's Maury Pomorie.
No, not Maury Povich, the other guy, Jerry Springer. Jerry
Springer. Jerry Springer, there was somebody that I don't know
if I removed I was from this story, but some day because you
had to sign an NDA when he did the Springer show. Spring you're
literally had a fee schedule. If you did this or that you'd get
paid if you told us you get more money bucks got out of your
chair in a threatening manner you get like 50 bucks. If you
did this if you threw a chair you get like 100 There's all the
it was a fee schedule that would create these people that do want
to fight because hell yeah, you make a lot of money. Now it's
possible that this is going on as we speak with this word with
the clip you're playing that there's a fee schedule. So if
you say yeah, or Oh, right, is there any of these things just
possibly get paid more money
Adam Curry: or you get invited to the big you know, Pfizer
Christmas party and you get gifts and you get you know, what
a
Unknown: bag, goodie bag
Adam Curry: these days people are getting gold bars and
getting Mercedes you know, we're on the wrong side of all this my
friend.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we've always been.
Unknown: Let's talk about RSP formula here because we know the
FDA just approved that first ever RSV vaccine. Yeah. There's
if I'm not mistaken, they're especially susceptible to sort
of dose also get the vaccine getting
the vaccine. So yeah, so for for little ones. This is great. We
have a pre
Adam Curry: for little ones. This is great. We jab me jab
murdy We jerem jab them off. Hey guys, where's my swag bag?
Unknown: Cardinal antibody for little neonates and infants born
in the neonates?
Adam Curry: Oh, come on, neonates. This is this is
children who literally have just been born. Yeah. Neo and you
call them neonates,
John C Dvorak: neonates when maybe the kids names Nate
Unknown: or Neil This is great. They we have approved now
something called a monoclonal antibody for little neonates and
infants born in the in their first RSV season.
Adam Curry: Oh, this Johnny, I don't know. But it's his first
RSV RSV season, it's the first season of his life it's known as
the RSV season, these people are ghouls, they are selling
horrible products that don't be ashamed
John C Dvorak: of themselves as broadcasters, this is what
broadcasting has become. The vast wasteland is worse than
ever.
Unknown: Good point. But for individuals 60 and older, there
are now two different RSV vaccines that are available. No,
Adam Curry: not one. There's two. That's a bonanza, I'm
telling you Bonanza
Unknown: buddy be getting it not necessarily. We are yes talking
about older adults, people with chronic heart or lung disease
people with weakened immune systems, people living in
nursing homes or long term care facilities. Now a lot of people
say well, can I get the RSV shot with the flu shot? If you
absolutely must. You probably yes, but the CDC has some data
that maybe the flu shot won't be as effective if you get it with
the RSV so
Adam Curry: what is it? So the CDC has some data. This is a
warning signal, as far as I'm concerned that if you get the
RSV with the flu shot, the flu shot won't be as effective. Why
not? What is wrong with either one of those or both of those?
That doesn't mean don't explain they don't
Unknown: mean probably yes, but the CDC has some data that maybe
the flu shot, effective if you've got it with the RSV so
I'm going to make a recommendation to my patients to
separate RSP from fluid it's not for kids. Nope. This is for
soaking up. The little ones get something called a monoclonal
antibody. They were approved around the same time. It's
really great news still
John C Dvorak: Right now why is the kid getting a monoclonal
antibody when they're not sick?
Adam Curry: Have you asked too many questions? No swag bag for
you. Now let's, let's talk about the booster. Oh, I'm so sorry
John C Dvorak: for the parents who are jacking these kids up
every damn thing that comes along just because somebody on
today's show thought it was a good idea.
Adam Curry: Well know someone on the Today Show got a swag bag to
promote it. Well, this is why we exist. So at least we have
John C Dvorak: to end advertising, drug company
advertising. That's why nobody in the world does it or allows
it because they know it's dangerous. It corrupts the
media. It has to be stopped. The only two countries that allowed
are the United States and New Zealand to screwed up countries
because of it that letting the pharmaceutical companies push
everyone around. This has got to end. That's took Kennedy Let's
talk.
Adam Curry: Let's Wow, an endorsement. Let's talk about
the booster. Oh, can we call it a booster? Should we need some
marketing help on this? What about the COVID
Unknown: booster? So we have a coke COVID burst? And
Adam Curry: really this is this makes my stomach turn the way
that COVID Does the Gildan COVID boasts the COVID COVID. What
about the COVID
Unknown: booster so we have a COVID booster this year, and
we're probably going to stop calling it booster we're going
to say updated vaccine just like we update the flu shot
Adam Curry: no like you update your software like you update
your windows, because that's what it is. It's an update to
your technology. That's what the whole promise was of the mRNA
platform. It's a software upgrade. It's an update
Unknown: in vaccine just like we update the flu shot every year.
This is targeting the XB V strain that was prominent in
spring and summer, but it is going to cover the current
circulating strains which are different than that one. And it
is okay to get the COVID and the flu shot at the same time. We've
been saying that for a couple of years
Adam Curry: now. Yeah, well, let's just let's just wrap this
up.
Unknown: Is there a logic so I just got my flu shot. You know,
I was scared, but I did it scared
Adam Curry: but I was scared but I got my flu shot. I
John C Dvorak: wasn't scared but I got scared of a flu shot.
Adam Curry: Because it was just scared. You know, she didn't
needles. She's just scared. And I you know,
Unknown: is there a logic? So I just got my flu shot. You know,
I was scared, but I did it right?
Just you're always scared. I
know. You're saying but I pick it up and I get it done.
Adam Curry: I sucked it up and I got it done. You're brave. But
for some reason what a lot of people are like me, me by the
same logic can't help and mock these people. This is so so
horrible. I mean, if you just you know, the problem is if
you're eating your breakfast, you got the kids running around,
you hear half of this you like oh, hey, kids, have to pick you
up after school. Don't take any aspirin. You gotta get your flu
shot. I don't want you to get hurt me. But for
Unknown: some reason with the COVID booster a lot of people
are like me. Should we apply the same logic that is just an
updated?
John C Dvorak: Second? I hate to interrupt. No, I love it. But
didn't this whole thing begin with the chatter that was going
on about you know, these these clips? The chatter everyone's
talking about getting the shots Great. Now all of a sudden this
Adam Curry: Well, I have the CDC director next and there's a lot
of me she will commit to nothing about this because they now know
that the pharmaceutical industry is selling their product and
they know it's no good at best ineffective at worst harmful
Unknown: for the CDC and communication. Yes, yes for an
individual there are so
Adam Curry: did you see what she says she says for the CDC and
communication? Yes. Let's listen to the question again.
Unknown: Did I mean it should we should we apply the same logic
that is just an updated
so it first for the CDC and communication? Yes. What does
Adam Curry: that mean so for the marketing no
John C Dvorak: idea why they emphatic yes. Because I
Adam Curry: think when she says for the CDC and communication
she means marketing. So for the marketing Yes, it's an updated
Yes, it's an updated Oh, it's not a booster? Yes. I think this
is marketing, their marketing chemicals to you and your
children. cavalierly
Unknown: you're always scared I know. You're saying but but for
some reason with the COVID booster a lot of people are like
we do not mean it should we should we apply the same logic
that is just an updated
so it first for the CDC and communication? Yes, for an
individual there are so much nuance to this. Oh no. I think I
would just say that the booster and updated shot with of the
COVID shot gives you protection against infection for A number
of months and then that declines. protection against
severe disease is more durable than the flu vaccine. So if
you've been boosted with COVID before if you've had a COVID
infection if you've
Adam Curry: been boosted with COVID What exactly what she said
if you've been boosted with COVID
Unknown: action against severe disease is more durable than the
flu vaccine. So if you've been boosted with COVID before if
you've had,
John C Dvorak: oh, you know what she said? She actually literally
said that she said, she said now's equates having COVID with
getting a booster shot. Yep, if you've been, you've been boosted
by COVID by getting COVID Then like getting COVID Wow, let's
listen to
Unknown: the COVID shot gives you protection against infection
for a number of months and then that declines. protection
against severe disease is more durable than the flu vaccine. So
if you've been boosted with COVID before if you've had a
COVID infection, you are still protected against severe
disease.
Adam Curry: Wow, what an admission before I mean, just a
few years ago I distinctly remember no no no no no, no, no
no you think you have you have some kind of immunity because
you got COVID No, no back in your home you don't come to work
don't go they'll go nuts because don't come to school. Get your
backs get your backs because you have you don't have immunity
just because you say you had it and now we've changed boy I'm
glad I have a memory that goes back at least a couple of years.
Unknown: So if you're in that bell curve, young adult a bell
curve again.
Adam Curry: What's the bell curve?
John C Dvorak: I don't know why they keep bringing the bell
curve. You're in the bell curve
Adam Curry: but that means the bell curve that you've all heard
that you have must be the immunity bell curve or
something.
John C Dvorak: So if you're in that age bell curve,
Adam Curry: oh no, no, she's saying that if you've been
boosted with COVID I'm going to start saying that are you a
vaccine? I've been boosted with COVID
John C Dvorak: Perfect. I'm gonna start saying it to most
men ever had COVID I've been boosted with no COVID
Adam Curry: You've been boosted with with your
John C Dvorak: immune system Hello,
Unknown: hello can severe disease is more durable than the
flu vaccine. So if you've been boosted with COVID before, if
you've had a COVID infection, you are still protected against
severe disease. So if you're in that bell curve, young adult
otherwise reasonably healthy, talk to your doctor about
getting an updated shots again from a public health population
perspective. They sent a yes whether you had it or get a lot
of nuance,
right. There's so good.
John C Dvorak: Oh my god, how long does this go on? This is
the last one. How does anybody watch this show?
Adam Curry: I love how she says you're so good at promoting
pharmaceutical products. You're so good. Thank you, y'all. I'll
see you at the party swag bag fall. Yes, girlfriend,
Unknown: the anaesthetic guys. Yes. Whether you had it or get a
lot of new ones are so good.
Adam Curry: Seriously, I mean, seriously, you're so good. You
really helped out with that ad is so good. So we have a CDC
director, Dr. Mandy Cohen. And since you know, this is all very
confusing. We need to hear about you know, from the authorities
who are in charge of this. Is this safe? Do we need it? What's
going on? The first thing we need to do is politicize it.
Unknown: How good is CDC done with all due respect over the
last few years how many people trust CDC at this point, I was
in the trenches during COVID. They were citing flimsy studies
saying that masks will stop COVID One of the things that I
said is when I come in, we're going to have a reckoning about
all these COVID policies.
Those are words spoken this week by Republican presidential
candidate and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis. During the height
of the pandemic, Americans trust in the CBD slipped compared to
other government agencies as changing science around the
Coronavirus led to shifting CDC guidelines to
Adam Curry: listen listen to what you say, as changing
science. Because the science is always in is always right. Trust
the scientists but the science changed.
John C Dvorak: It makes no sense
Unknown: or it's spoken this week by Republican presidents of
Canada and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis. During the height of
the pandemic, Americans trust in the CBD slipped compared to
other government agencies as changing science around the
Coronavirus led to shifting CDC guidelines. In 2002. A Kaiser
Family Foundation poll found more than a quarter of Americans
still don't trust the agency to provide reliable information
about COVID vaccines. Even the former CDC director said this
about the CDC is COVID response quote To be frank, we are
responsible for some pretty dramatic pretty public mistakes,
from testing to data to communications. And while most
Americans have moved on from COVID If you look at the numbers
the virus of course is still here.
Adam Curry: Our time to look at the numbers check the bell curve
the virus is still here. What are you thinking stupid people
Unknown: hospitalizations have been on the right since July
with weekly admissions now more than triple what they were just
two months ago,
Adam Curry: maybe five oh, they
John C Dvorak: went from one to three.
Adam Curry: I think three to nine is what I was gonna
suggest. Yes, triple Joining us
Unknown: now for her very first CNN interview the new CDC
director, Dr. Mandy Cohen.
Adam Curry: All right, Dr. Mandy Cohen, we have a new face. We've
got a new round new chances. Let's bring it home. Dr. Mandy
Cohen. Dr.
Unknown: Cohen, thank you so much for joining us this
morning. I want to start with we heard from Ron DeSantis. He has
basically I
Adam Curry: want to start with nothing about medical medicine.
I just want to start with politics.
Unknown: Mandy Cohen. Dr. Cohen, thank you so much for joining us
this morning. I want to start with we heard from Ron DeSantis.
He has basically told people that 65 And over not to get the
booster shot. What do you make of his comments?
Adam Curry: Well, where do you do that? Well, you heard at the
beginning of that clip,
John C Dvorak: he said not to get the booster shots. No, he
didn't say that. But she claims.
Adam Curry: Of course.
Unknown: Well, first, Sarah, thanks for having me on. I want
to make sure that Americans know that last week, the CDC did
recommend an updated COVID vaccine for everyone. Notice
Adam Curry: the marketing language, not booster. It's an
updated COVID vaccine. She's all in
Unknown: scene for everyone over the age of six months. These are
vaccines that we've given out 600 million of these doses we've
saved so many lives are created. These vaccines are safe, they're
effective. We want to make sure folks protect themselves going
into the fall and winter season when we know we're going to see
more COVID circulating. Okay,
Adam Curry: that's about the extent of what shall go in this
interview. They're safe and effective, which is what we've
heard continuously safe and effective. Let's get into it.
Because obviously we go from politics to the internet,
because you know, people can't do that. There are podcasters
out there who are mocking you Dr. Mandy Cohen, CDC director,
there's there's people on Brighty on and rumble there who
are not toeing the line. What are we going to do with this
misinformation is disinformation, its problems.
Unknown: We've seen a lot of misinformation, disinformation
and conspiracy theories,
Adam Curry: conspiracy theories. Oh, no. What how is it a
conspiracy theory? What's the conspiracy theory? Okay, I'm
sorry.
John C Dvorak: The vaccine doesn't work as a conspiracy
theory.
Adam Curry: And maybe she's talking about the the
nanoparticle guy with the
John C Dvorak: I don't think so. But maybe that is a conspiracy.
That is a conspiracy Russian
Unknown: disinformation and conspiracy theories on online,
especially about the vaccines and
Adam Curry: online especially. We're conspiracy therapists and
young lady
Unknown: now you have a governor who is pushing some of this
thing that Floridians are being used as guinea pigs, and he's
just not going to allow it. What is your response to his state?
Adam Curry: Did he said that to you said that they were guinea
pigs. I mean, remember that this sounds like an actual conspiracy
theory to me that he said all these things. I did hear that?
Unknown: Well, first, I want folks to know that these
vaccines have been thoroughly and independently reviewed both
by the FDA and CDC experts.
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. Thoroughly and independently reviewed.
They've been tested on mice. There's no human trials of this
later this updated vaccine.
Unknown: But you know, I'm not just the CDC director. I'm also
a mom.
Adam Curry: Owner. I'm also the owner of the Hair Club for Men.
No, but this is interesting. I'm also a mom. Now now seeing as
she's the CDC director, and she's a mom, you would think
that she has been Vaxxed double Vax, double boosted had the same
done for her family for children. Would you agree?
John C Dvorak: I would say she'd been double Vaxxed and at least
double boosted if not
Adam Curry: triple boosted. And let's listen and see. We can
hear that.
Unknown: But you know, I'm not just a CDC director. I'm also a
mom and a wife and a daughter. I wouldn't recommend something to
the American people I wouldn't recommend for my own family, my
daughters who are nine and 11. I plan to have them get
vaccinated. I'm getting vaccinated my husband,
Adam Curry: wait a minute. Shouldn't she say updated
vaccine? It sounds the way she says this. It sounds like she
hasn't been vaccinated at all.
John C Dvorak: That's exactly what it sounds like. And maybe
that's true and you're in what you're doing is parsing reality.
Unknown: I plan to have them get vaccinated. I'm getting
vaccinated my husband of course my parents who are over 65 are
at the highest risk certainly want them to get protected. But
really unfortunately COVID is still here with us. I know we
all wish it would be gone but it is here with us. But the good
news is we have tools that are safe and effective to protect
ourselves
Adam Curry: now Okay, so tools again for school safe and
effective tool. So are these tools masks let's let's get into
the mask. Specifically mask. Can you give us an answer do masks
works.
Unknown: I want to ask you about the recent uptick because I've
seen the numbers go up over the last month or so. With that
recent uptick. There are several school districts that are now
requiring masks once again. Is that a good Paul? See, is that
something that should be happening that we go back to
masking at this point?
Adam Curry: So from the CDC director, I would expect either
Yes. It's a good policy because masks work, or no, it's not a
good policy because children are,
John C Dvorak: say need to breathe, breathe fresh air, not
their own X fluent their
Adam Curry: own good word that choking on their own X fluence.
They can't see each other's facial expressions, it's very
bad for child development, either one I would accept from
her. But
Unknown: you know, we're in a different place than we were
before we're outside of the emergency by COVID is still with
us. And we know that we have tools to protect us and answer
the question with your tools. We've been talking about
vaccines being one and I hope everyone gets an updated
vaccine. But we have others testing treatment and other
common sense solution. And yes, mask masking is one of those
solutions that folks could choose to you to
Adam Curry: see how cagey she is now. See what she's doing? Yes,
we have other tools. And yes, mask is something people could
choose to
Unknown: use protect themselves from this virus, it's important
to know your own risk. Are you around folks who are older or
who have underlying conditions, then we need to use more layers
of protection.
Adam Curry: He's not saying mask layers of protection.
Unknown: The fact is, we have tools, we need to use them. And
we're going to keep talking about the ways folks can protect
themselves.
Adam Curry: No answer. That is literally not an answer.
Unknown: Do you think that this is a good recommendation that
schools should be masking? Now? As I said, there are several
schools I think Maryland, one of them, where they're saying,
Okay, now you have to mask again?
Adam Curry: Okay. She's clearly asking the question again.
John C Dvorak: Yes, the second go round? Yes,
Adam Curry: you could, because even the CNN lady was not
satisfied with that non answer.
Unknown: Well, we want Facebook. Look,
Adam Curry: when you when you start off with Look, no answers
coming?
Unknown: Well, we want folks to be reacting to what they're
seeing on the ground in their community and making sure that
they're protecting themselves. We want folks to know that there
are tools that they can use. But there are more things than
maths, remember, ventilation, don't forget your vaccine, wash
your hands, stay home when you're sick. These are layers of
tools that we have right now. And we want to just empower
folks to use those tools and and support them in any way we can.
John C Dvorak: No, I was washing your hands a tool. A tool is
washing your hands. It's a tool. Do you have any washing your
hand tool there? Yeah, have a three quarter inch washing your
hand?
Adam Curry: Open the window? It's a good tool. opening
windows is a tool.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's what she said. All right, let's
Adam Curry: get down to the crux of it. Because this is why we're
here. We need to promote the product, do the updated vaccines
work?
Unknown: I do want to ask you about the the vaccination
John C Dvorak: question I see. Of course, you gave up on the
question. I always do this. By the way, if you anyone out there
who doesn't notice, they go down, take two shots at it.
Yeah. And that's it. And that's it. They're not going to know
what they should. Do you know why? Then your journalists will
say, Well, hold on a second. It's a simple question. Can you
ask answer it? Yes, sir. No,
Adam Curry: no, that's only for Congress in the Senate. Exactly.
That's that's where that gets asked.
John C Dvorak: And they don't get the answer either. So it
doesn't work. But she answered
Adam Curry: that so that we can look out for the messaging. The
messaging is, it's an updated vaccine. And it's just one of
many tools, tools, which include washing your hands, opening the
window, standing on your head, putting a bag over your head,
lots of tools, like we can come up with a whole toolkit. In
fact,
Unknown: I do want to ask you about the the vaccines and how
well how well do they work? And do they actually help reduce
transmissions of the virus at all this latest?
Adam Curry: Updated, updated, updated, updated and updated
vaccine? Oh, did you squirt it out?
Unknown: Yes. So we know that these vaccines are safe and
they're effective,
Adam Curry: safe and effective? Do they work safe and effective
Unknown: preventing the worst of what COVID? Can?
Adam Curry: This is great. Do they prevent you? She said Do
they prevent transmission? The question is really simple. Do
they prevent transmission Director of the CDC, the person
who is in charge of our health?
Unknown: Yes. So we know that these vaccines are safe and
they're effective at preventing the worst of what COVID can can
bring to you and that is putting you in the hospital or dying.
Unfortunately, we're still seeing hundreds of people over
65 dying each week. Okay, so
Adam Curry: you're safe and effective at stopping the worst
of COVID which is getting you sick and you dying.
Unfortunately, we're seeing people dying. What is going on
here
Unknown: with COVID We have about 20,000 folks in the
hospital right now with COVID. So what the vaccine can do is
protect you from the war. First of what COVID is, but remember
the vaccine early data is showing us it can also prevent
you from getting long COVID. We don't
Adam Curry: even know what long COVID is yet,
John C Dvorak: then this is bogus. This is not true. No,
Unknown: of course not decreases your risk of getting long COVID,
which is extended symptoms,
Adam Curry: I didn't expect this. I mean, so let's just
review. It will protect you, you won't get COVID The President of
the United States said that, then it was 90% 95% effective,
then it was 75% effective then was 65%, then you needed a
booster. And then you know, you Oh, it's only good for a couple
of months, you need another booster. And you need to you
know, get it, there's an uptick in into the booster. And well,
it's not going to stop transmission. It's not going to
do that. But it will stop you from getting really sick and
going to the hospital. Now, it'll stop the worst of what
COVID can do. Like COVID, some some boogey man with a gun
outside your door. And now, and now they've resorted to well, if
you're not in the hospital, and you don't die, you won't get
long COVID But it's safe and effective from
Unknown: that COVID virus. So yes, protecting from the worst,
but also protecting you from potential long term symptoms
from this virus even if you have a mild case.
Adam Curry: What a lie.
John C Dvorak: You have a mild case
Adam Curry: back to us, though, what about all those anti
vaxxers on podcasts?
Unknown: I can't help but tell you this story. I was in several
hospitals at the height of this pandemic and what were
Adam Curry: you doing? What were you doing and why would you do
that
Unknown: of this pandemic. And one of the things I heard from
someone in the hospital for one of the nurses, they said someone
came in here they had COVID It was really really bad. They
couldn't breathe and the person's wife says Don't you
dare give them that vaccine. It is dangerous. It is deadly. This
is one of those big issues this anti vaccine center Hold
John C Dvorak: on. somebody's dying of COVID You don't know.
What's the vaccine gonna do? It's not It's therapeutic.
Exactly.
Adam Curry: Exactly. Story is bogus. She wasn't in the
hospital. She has no story is bogus. She's she's trying to
find a bridge, a bridge to get into banty Bagri.
John C Dvorak: I agree. This is bullshit.
Unknown: And one of the things I heard from someone in the
hospital for one of the nurses, they said in the
Adam Curry: hearse, so something I heard from someone in the
hospital from one of the nurses. So it's third hand information.
Unknown: Someone came in here they had COVID It was really,
really bad. They couldn't breathe and the person's wife
says Don't you dare give them that vaccine. It is dangerous.
It is deadly. This is one of those big issues is anti vaccine
sentiment. Do you have a specific plan to try and combat
it? And how worried are you about a rise and this anti
vaccine sentiment?
Adam Curry: Okay. Just to make clear, I don't think Adam or
John have any anti vaccine sentiment. We are anti these
bullcrap vaccines that don't work under the newly changed
definition of vaccine, which is a vaccine is a shot that you get
that doesn't do anything. But you won't get long COVID It's
just a tool.
Unknown: Well, it's really important that we are
communicating with folks and having longer conversations to
make sure that we're addressing people's questions,
Adam Curry: please the questions though you're not answering
them? Does it work? Is it for real do maths work? You're gonna
have longer conversations, why longer conversations, You're
boring me already,
Unknown: that they understand the data that we see. That's why
I'm sharing personally what I would recommend for my own
family in terms of vaccination. So it's
Adam Curry: just a personal endorsement. It's not based on
science or numbers, which you haven't given us. It's just it's
an endorsement by a lady who has a badge.
Unknown: I know folks want to be healthy.
John C Dvorak: Get this clip, CNN.
Adam Curry: This is CNN. I mean, luckily, no one watches. But
what have dog do we have a dog alert?
John C Dvorak: But dog alert?
Adam Curry: Let me finish this clip
John C Dvorak: family, finish the clip and then stop taping
I'll come back after the clip. It's not funny.
Adam Curry: Well, let me 36 seconds. Can he hold on for 36
hours? Yes, he can.
Unknown: Only what I would recommend for my own family in
terms of vaccination. I know folks want to be healthy, that
they want their families to be safe. So we're just going to
keep communicating about the good information that we know
what scientists
John C Dvorak: how's that communicating anything.
Adam Curry: She communicated nothing except her personal
endorsement healthy,
Unknown: that they want their families to be safe. So we're
just going to keep communicating about the good information that
we know the scientific information that we're seeing.
We want to communicate as transparently as we can and
answer folks questions we encourage folks to visit
cdc.gov No
Adam Curry: court but but visit cdc.gov
Unknown: and get their questions answered and engage with your
doctor with a nurse practitioner ask a good question. And make
sure you're using tools to protect yourself.
Dr. Mandy Cohen, congratulations. You are the new
CDC director. Lots of work to be done. Thank you so much for
answering our questions here.
John C Dvorak: unanswered question.
Adam Curry: Thank you for answering their questions. Hey,
whatever you do, come back.
John C Dvorak: I've got some clips of the RF cage or FK Jr.
Up.
Adam Curry: Bobby The Office back, everybody. All right.
John C Dvorak: He's hasn't gone anywhere. No, I know. Because
the way they're doing it, they're rolling it out funny.
Adam Curry: Okay. All right. I'm ready. What? Well, it
John C Dvorak: looks as if, well, let's play the app. And
we'll discuss after the three clips
Unknown: and Biden may have competition. A recent poll has
good news for Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Right? This is
Adam Curry: NTD. I'm just assuming
John C Dvorak: you can play the jingle if you want.
Adam Curry: No, no, I did not. Yes, it is Ed. Kennedy. Yeah.
Oh, really? Oh, that I have done I do have to play. Yeah, they're
Pro
Unknown: D, D, and Biden may have competition. A recent poll
has good news for Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Even as the
candidate may be considering running as an independent. We
spoke with an epic Times reporter to dive into his
campaign. Jeff Louderback, thank you so much for joining us. Good
to have you back on the show. It seems right now Rumors are
swirling that RFK Jr. might run as an independent separating
himself from the Democratic Party. That's after some
convention contention with the Democratic National Committee.
From what you've seen from his campaign. What has he been
saying about all of this? Well, it's
interesting, because I've been covering the campaigns and I
believe may and for several months, he would say when asked
that question, if he would run as a third party or an
independent, that he's a Democrat. He wants to restore
the party to what it was when his uncle JFK and his father RFK
were President and Senator respectively. And he he would
say that he wants to get the nomination. He wants to restore
the party back to what it was, but and in the last month, like
in New Hampshire, recently, he was talking about how that if
the DNC makes it difficult for him that he has to consider all
his options.
And now a Rasmussen poll from just two days ago shows that 33%
of Democrats say they would vote for RFK if he was a third party.
From what you've seen on the ground. How would him running as
an independent impact the election cycle?
Adam Curry: Yeah, the 33 is a dead giveaway. I'm okay, I'm
with you. It's an OP. If if they're thrown out the 30
threes, all of a sudden funding a Rasmussen poll. Isn't the
Rasmussen poll? Like aren't they like Republican GOP pollsters?
John C Dvorak: Kinda? Yeah, 33.
Adam Curry: Yeah, sure. All right.
John C Dvorak: All right. So he's gonna run it day
independent. What's happening is that the DNC is not giving in to
anything he wants to do. They look at him as a lunatic and
they're not going to let him run as a Democrat or getting on any
ballots. Right. He's okay. What happens if I run into it as an
independent? How you think you guys are going to do if I'm
running as an independent
Adam Curry: right post 33%? Away, apparently. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Which is not nothing to sneeze. I hear it.
And that's the Democrats think,
Adam Curry: I think Joe Rogan, said he, he would vote for
Kennedy.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me in the
least that was right up his alley. Bartender
Adam Curry: would and Joe Rogan wouldn't not vote for him just
because he was a third party. I mean, that shows no party guy.
John C Dvorak: That's the way it is, I think with everybody.
Right? If Kennedy is on the ballot, he's gonna get his
votes. And in fact, they discussed that in part two.
Well, what I
Unknown: find interesting is that every town hall or meet and
greet every tour that I go to, there's a wide mix of people.
There's people who voted for Biden, President Biden in 2020.
There's people who supported President Trump in 2016 and
2020. He has a wide spectrum of political supporters. I think,
from what they've said, They said they'll support him,
regardless of whether he's a Democrat or an Independent. I
think a lot of Republicans. If he decided to run as a
Republican, I think he would do well. And that primary is just,
he talks about how it's a movement. That's what he's
trying to create. From what I've seen about being heavily
involved in covering it. Just seems like that's accurate.
There's a lot of enthusiasm regardless of where he goes.
And speaking of that wide net of support that he gets one picture
he posted recently getting a lot of attention is with Pierce
Brosnan former James Bond glory. This was at a fundraiser from
what you've seen what other celebrities appeared to be
backing him tall.
Well, when you're at Kennedy, obviously you have a natural fit
for ties to celebrities, but he or have K Jr, who is married to
Cheryl Hines from Curb Your Enthusiasm, fame. And so he has
a big network and they live in Los Angeles. So Pierce Brosnan.
He recently had a fundraiser with Eric Clapton performing and
that raise $2.2 million for his campaign. Leisha Silverstone
just came out and endorsed him. And a funny thing, Woody
Harrelson who was photographed with RFK, Jr. and took a lot of
heat. And I had asked him about that and and he said that well,
he probably isn't doesn't even know he's taking heat because
he's off the grid. He's not on social media. So I don't think
it could hurt in today's climate. I don't know if it
helps or not. But he is getting, getting a lot of support from
well known people.
Adam Curry: If I may just say this guy's report is blame. I
could have given you that report. But I get the point.
John C Dvorak: That's the point. We can all do. We don't need any
of these clips, we can do the whole thing. But these are this
is just confirmation of what's going on, especially within the
OP now they get the Hollywood celebrities on board, which is
just says to me, okay, this is this, we're getting there. And
well,
Adam Curry: and I will reiterate that the fact that Cheryl Hines
has not been strung up drawn and quartered and throw in thrown in
stocks for being married to this horrible anti Vaxxer Joe Rogan
loving loser says that something is up.
John C Dvorak: Something's up I think. Doesn't we don't get into
it too much more at the last clip, but it's just kind of
interesting.
Unknown: And what is the significance or impact that you
see these celebrities seeming to back him have especially due to
some of our code juniors more controversial stances say on
vaccines?
Well, that seems to be contrary, doesn't it? It seems like
Hollywood is all in on COVID vaccines and COVID mandates. It
just seems that way. California as a whole. I don't know. I
can't really say whether that will help or hurt. But I think
that just goes to show he has a wide spectrum of support that
you otherwise wouldn't think. Like, obviously, President Trump
has strong support by his base. But that's a base that is pretty
much conservative. RFK Jr. Support seems to go always and
that's you could throw in the Hollywood crowd is. That's just
interesting that he has that support.
Adam Curry: I don't know. I don't think he he would only
help Trump win if he ran third party.
John C Dvorak: Oh, well, one of these days. You have to remember
that Abraham Lincoln basically ran third party.
Adam Curry: Well, I wasn't around that time.
John C Dvorak: But the parties do have the opportunity to to
lose if he ran third. But yeah, i i Looking at it would think
yeah, that's what's going to happen to or Trump or whoever it
might even be Trump could be somebody else. But it's possible
that the that him running third party, I mean, it's just to put
the screws to the Democrat party to tell him you know, to bring
him on board is the this threat and but it's a real threat.
Yeah, it's more of a threat than the one with Joe Manchin and the
soak whatever that other Well, here's, here's what
Adam Curry: I'm what I'm saying. So Trump has tremendous support
right now. And I think it's bleeding over way beyond Maga
country. And the main thing that he's saying is, I will initiate
the biggest deportation this country has ever seen, which I
think is hitting the hot buttons right now. When you say that
people are paying attention, particularly people who I don't
know, want jobs and see some Venezuelans going in front of
them. DeSantis is hitting Trump at the VAX level. No backs I'm
against Vax, I can't you know, he's he's, that's the only spot
he can hit. Trump is about the backs and how's that working?
Well, Trump has what 50% His 15 something and then to have the
OP come in. I don't know he's still a Democrat John. He's, you
know, all talk. And I've heard his solutions. He wants a giant
loan program for people to buy homes and that none of it sounds
I mean, he's, he's saying all the right things. Like
everything's corrupt, but I don't really hear solutions from
him. And maybe maybe I'm it's a stretch for maybe America that
will pay attention this time. I don't know. I mean, who am I
kidding, but um, well,
John C Dvorak: we don't need another Democrat but so there's
that aspect to it but but as you know, as the guy's got an
appeal, He's appealing he says the right things is he's got
he's got panache
Adam Curry: panache. Well, if he's an optin he can only be an
opt to help Trump get elected and then become Trump's Attorney
General. Now that would be that would be an up.
John C Dvorak: Wow, I didn't think of that. I loved that one.
You liked it good. Um, well, if he has an OP, that's what you
want to do with him. You want to put him in some position where
he can put the reins on Trump. And attorney generals that is
that perfect
Adam Curry: guy. Good one. And there was something interesting
that popped up about the CIA versus dia, did you see the
latest? Seymour Hersh? substack? No. So just to reiterate,
Seymour Hersh award winning journalist but once he started
to say stuff like Obama is no good. I'm just paraphrasing. And
the war, the war in Iraq and war, Afghanistan is bogus. They
d platformed. And he became a kook. Am I characterizing that
right? He became a kook overnight,
John C Dvorak: like anybody else who turns on the Democrat party,
a cult. The cult goes after him. And he's one of them. I mean,
that's why you don't see Ray McGovern anymore on any of these
shows. And it just, there's a slew of these guys that are just
blackballed, blacklisted.
Adam Curry: And he, I think he was on he was being published by
the London School of books or something with the London
John C Dvorak: book, a journal, a book review or some book
review. Yeah. So
Adam Curry: so he told me you have books, totally
marginalized, deeper up the platform. But I think we you and
I have always liked his stuff. And although he sometimes seems
to go a bit far, I see no evidence other than his
assessment of what happened in nordstream, is being true and
correct. And now, he wrote this piece is called Zelinsky is bad
moment. And it starts off by actually by saying is, we're
coming up on the anniversary, it's already been a year of the
destruction of nordstream. One and two. He, he states here that
the CIA is getting pretty mad, because the DIA, the Defense
Intelligence Agency is has the ear of the White House and his
saying, Oh, no, everything's great. You know, we're doing
pretty good where the offensive is working. It's going slow, but
the offensive is working. And the CIA is saying no, it's not.
It's failed. In fact, I have it here. There were some early
Ukrainian penetrations in the opening days of the June
offensive, that this is from an official at or near the heavily
trapped first of Russia's three formidable concrete barriers of
defense, the Russians retreated to sucker them in and they all
got killed. After weeks of high casualties and little progress,
along with horrific losses to tanks and armored vehicles,
which I have seen. Throughout the past few months, I have just
on telegram and signal have received video after video of
these great tanks that Germany and everyone else gave to
Ukraine being destroyed. After weeks of high casualties and
little progress, along with horrific losses to tanks and
armored vehicles, major elements of the Ukrainian army without
declaring so virtually canceled the offensive. The two villages
that Ukrainian army recently claimed as captured are so tiny,
they could fit between two Burma Shave signs. And now that's a
that's a call back to
John C Dvorak: there's a reference for you.
Adam Curry: You want to explain the Burma Shave signs?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they used to be when, when the highways
were opened up with carska. She traveled in the 50s 60s and 70s,
when they were traveling, people were traveling cross country a
lot. This company named Burma Shave would put up the site,
they'd go to a farmer and you'd be driving through the middle of
nowhere, and there'd be a and if you're a kid, you would really
perk up when you saw these signs. And it would be a series
of about five or six signs in a row that in a row and they're
all you know, they're spaced far enough apart that you could read
and because you're driving at 60 miles an hour. So that'd be one
sign that say something. It was like a teaser, and then to be
another line, a line a line. That'd be about five and then
it'd be some sort of a joke, a punch line at the end. And then
at the very, very end of the signs would be a sign that had
the Burma Shave logo on it just said Burma Shave. And these were
everywhere across the country and they were very funny and and
kids and parents would read the signs as you were zoomed by each
one. It was like it was a highlight of driving in the
middle of nowhere middle of Mid America. So the signs have all
been knocked over and gone. I think that became collectible.
Adam Curry: I'm surprised you don't have one in the house
somewhere.
John C Dvorak: I am too.
Adam Curry: So the point being that the the actual ground that
they've captured is very, very tiny. And the CIA, they gave up
at an Hirsch has sources he has informants he's he's cultivated
these these sources over what a 50 year career something it's
amazing what he's done as the 60s and he says the CIA. They
gave up after what after there, so I'll read verbatim. Putin did
something stupid no matter how provoked by violating the UN
Charter and so did we. Meaning President Biden's decision to
wage a proxy war with Russia by fundings, Lenski and his
military now this is a source quote. And so now we had to
paint paint him black. With the help of the media in order to
justify our mistake, we're referring to a secret
disinformation operation that was aimed at diminishing Putin
undertaken by the CIA in coordination with elements of
British intelligence. The successful operation led major
media outlets here and in London, to report that the
Russian president was suffering from various illnesses that
included blood disorders and serious cancer. One oft quoted
story had Putin being treated by heavy doses of steroids. Not all
were fooled. The Guardian skeptically reports we weren't
fooled. The Guardian skeptically reported in May of 2022. The
rumors span the gamut. Vladimir Putin is suffering from cancer
or Parkinson's disease, Parkinson disease, but many
major news organizations took the bait in June 2022, Newsweek
splashed, would it build a major scoop, citing unnamed sources
saying that Putin had undergone treatment two months earlier for
advanced cancer, Putin his grip is strong, but no longer
absolutes, the jocking inside the Kremlin has never been more
intense. Everyone sensing that the end is near. So that was the
end of the CIA's involvement because of course, I failed
because it was a lie. And it wasn't true. And they tried to,
you know, remember the CIA saying, Oh, yes. 10s of 1000s of
Russians are reporting to us and they're all going to help us get
rid of Putin. Yeah, that was a good one shows you how pathetic
it all really is. And so now we're just now lying to send
these long range missiles, which I guess we're gonna shoot him
into the I guess, the 300 kilometers, we're going to shoot
him into no occupied territory and do some damage, mostly
John C Dvorak: Crimea,
Adam Curry: right of Crimea. And what Kershaw's saying is this
war is over. There is no more war. It just, and I think what
comes into play now as Russia just sits where they are in the
in the demilitarized zone, because it's filled with
landmines and cluster bomb cluster munition. Poland
possibly takes over some of West Ukraine. It would love to, and
meanwhile, we've got the ambassador for the Sharjah
Michonne. So kind of the ambassador to Ukraine was this
Jim oaks name? William Taylor. And he's just trying to
propagate the message that the White House and the Defense
Intelligence Agency want you to hear, so that we can keep
sending money to the military industrial complex. It's
becoming so blatantly clear.
Unknown: Joining us now is former US ambassador to Ukraine
volume Taylor. This is CNN, again, is the vice president of
the Russia and Europe center at the US Institute of Peace. Thank
you so much for being here.
Adam Curry: When you see that the US Institute of Peace, what
an oxymoron
Unknown: conflict among us, the congressmen and congresswomen.
And you have Zelinsky there saying I cannot get this done
without your help. What in the end happens here? What do you
see happening to Ukraine? Will this just be a war that just
almost a Forever War at this point, and in this kind of
stalemate?
Sure. I don't think so. I think the number one, there's actually
some progress. I don't think so. I think the number one, there's
actually some progress on the ground this in progress.
Adam Curry: This, I think I think there's some progress on
the ground
Unknown: in the southern part of Ukraine.
Adam Curry: You just do that again. But did you do that? No.
Unknown: I found there's some progress in the southern party.
Wow.
Adam Curry: Wow. two tails in a row crane,
Unknown: where the Ukrainian forces are, slowly grindingly
bloodedly, very difficult fighting Horse are moving into
and pushing the Russians back.
Adam Curry: Does that sound like a guy who's really telling the
truth about some some good news coming out of Ukraine? I don't
think so.
Unknown: That's their goal. And there's some indication that
that's having some success, some
John C Dvorak: imitators occation.
Unknown: In the last couple of days, we've we're seeing reports
of that number one, number number two, I expect in the end,
this assistance package like all the previous assistance packages
will be approved by Congress.
Adam Curry: This is the $24 billion assistance package that
is being used as a political football for the pending gloom
and doom of a shutdown of government.
Unknown: If you put this to a vote in both houses, you're
going to get bipartisan support, good majorities. And the
question is how to get it to the vote. But But smarter people
that I will, will get that, get that done, when they actually
vote, it will pass
John C Dvorak: the T cells and really come to the RA or the
Rand Paul clips. All right. went on for 11 minutes, I have three
excerpts. And this is to me, I think, kind of a watershed
moment, at least well, of course, he's anti war. But
listen to Ron Paul screed number one,
Unknown: I rise to put the leadership of the House, the
Senate and the president united states on notice. I will not
consent to any expedited passage of any spending bill that
provides any more American aid to Ukraine. It's as if no one
has noticed that we have no extra money to send to Ukraine,
our deficit this year will exceed $1.5 trillion. borrowing
money from China to send it to Ukraine makes no sense. It's not
as if we have some sort of rainy day funds sitting around
trillions of dollars that a pot of money, we're just going to
send that to Ukraine. We're going to borrow it. When we
borrow it and create new money to pay for that borrowing. We
create the inflation that is plaguing our economy
Adam Curry: there. See he he's he mixed his messages. I like
the idea of why borrow from China to give to Ukraine. That's
smart. But then then he confused he should have just stuck with
why printed and create inflation, he just because
that's the truth of it. But for some reason he had to throw
China in there. I think that was a mistake to get
John C Dvorak: China. Because there's a lot of people that
think that China's lease financing. It's a mistake. It
could be but you know, it's a good, but he goes on. And now he
has a nice little little complaint about the war itself
in part two,
Unknown: since the beginning of Russia's war in Ukraine, the
American taxpayers provided Ukraine with $113 billion over
the 583 days of war between February 24 2022 and the end of
the month, that averages $6.8 billion per month or $223
million per day. There's a lot of things that we need to fix in
our country, before we borrow money to try to perpetuate a war
in another country. When will the aid requests and when will
the war end? Can someone explain what victory in Ukraine looks
like? President Biden certainly can't. His administration has
failed to articulate a clear strategy or objective in this
war. And Ukraine's long awaited counter offensive has failed to
make meaningful gains in the east. With no clear end in
sight. It looks increasingly like Ukraine will be yet another
endless quagmire funded by the American taxpayer. Hmm.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. And then he does do thing that the the other
guy kind of suggested as a no brainer. But Rand Paul thinks
it's a bad idea. And here, he pitches about the fact that they
that they are going to shut down the government unless we give
Ukraine more money.
Unknown: And now there are those in the Senate, and who would
hold the federal government hostage by inserting $24 billion
more for Ukraine. They're talking about saying the only
way government stays open, the only way we avoid a shutdown is
by shoveling more American taxpayer dollars to Ukraine.
They're going to link keeping the government open with more
money to Ukraine. And I'm here to say that I'm not going to
agree to it. And I will not let them shut down the government
simply because they want to send more of your hard earned tax
dollars to Ukraine.
Adam Curry: This, of course, is the right message but I think
that Taylor here the former ambassador, I think he has a
right he says oh no people much smarter than me are going to
bring this to the vote and it will it will pass because he
knows the power. He knows how everyone with the exception of
Rand Paul, may be one other is completely corrupted by money
for the military industrial complex. Next, it has to pass.
There's it's not about Ukraine, as he says Ukraine. No, it's
about the money. The money, you make a
Unknown: great point in the sense of if it could get to the
House floor, the requisite number of votes. Are there,
period, end of story in the United States Senate, the Senate
Majority Leader there, Chuck Schumer, is certainly there.
There is no bigger supporter or more, I think bigger defender
than Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell. I think that's
why the dynamic is so interesting right now, because
the tone felt different yesterday than when I was in
Washington for when President Solinsky came for his first
visit outside of Ukraine, at the end of last year for the video
remarks to the joint session of Congress a month after the war,
that total shift, what do you think is behind that?
So Phil, it's been a long time. The Ukrainians have been
fighting for 19 months, United States has been supporting for
19 months, that's a long time to maintain that kind of focus and
intensity. Ukrainians have no choice. They have no choice but
to defend themselves. They're under attack every day, every
day. And it's up to us to maintain our support. And so I
think that that long term support, I was just in Ukraine
last week, and it's the same thing. It's a grim
determination. When I was there a year ago, it was it was
enthusiastic, because the counter offensive was going so
well. Now the counter offensive is going but as
John C Dvorak: you get a little a timeline issue here. Yes. The
counter offensive didn't begin a year ago, it
Adam Curry: didn't even start until the fall like a couple of
July, June, July, kind of and they had to keep pushing it off.
In fact, they called it the spring offensive. They called it
the spring offensive, this
John C Dvorak: guy is just full of it.
Adam Curry: Of course he is he's trying. He's a pentagon guy, he
has to make it sound like they're still fighting going on.
When I believe her. There's no fighting going on, it's over.
But that doesn't mean the money has to stop flowing. That's all
that it's ever been about just in
Unknown: Ukraine last week, and it's the same thing. It's a grim
determination. When I was there a year ago, it was it was
enthusiastic, because the counter offensive was going so
well. Now the counter offensive is going, but it's not as
dramatic. And so the grim determination is something we
have to support grim determination.
Adam Curry: What does that mean? That like, I'm gonna die, but
I'm determined. grim determination. one more clip,
and we'll get out of this.
Unknown: May I ask you just sort of what you think the world is
doing as they look at this sort of fight in the United States
over this. And as this war has ground on, what the message is,
you have McCarthy sort of not wanting to be seen with him on
camera, and then suddenly, you see this picture of them behind
the scenes standing next to each other. He did not let Zelinsky
speak to Congress. What is the rest of the world doing and how
much of a damage could this cause? In seeing that there is
infighting in the United States over whether to help fund this
war?
Well, sir, you're exactly right. In the back,
Adam Curry: you're exactly right.
Unknown: Seeing that there was infighting in the United States
over whether to help fund this war.
Well, Sarah, you're exactly right. And in the in the closed
meetings, there apparently was one support even from from Mr.
McCarthy. Mr. McCall, the the committed douchebag
Adam Curry: from Texas who's all in on war,
Unknown: the chair Foreign Relations Committee Chairs said
that Mr. McCarthy was strong support on doing more actually,
these eight tackles these long range missiles. They were
pushing the administration to provide those so there is that
but you're absolutely right. In public there is this debate is
complex surprise. People observing the US government and
the US machinations political machinations. They under people
around the world in particular in Ukraine, they know what's
going on here. And again, they they don't they can't win this
war, in the immediate sense, without the United States
leading this coalition leaving the Alliance so they're counting
on this kind of support coming through
Adam Curry: Degen us they're going to pass it they're gonna
spend the money John I don't believe for a second that that
this is all theater and it's all gonna be oh, oh, well, we have
to shut down the government. They're liars all of them. All
of them. The I'll give Rand Paul I'll give him a pass. I think
he's he's always been that way. He's always been the one guy for
as long as been doing the show Rand Paul's well was Ron Paul
then. But Is dad but Rand Paul has always been the one guy
nope, nope, nope, nope.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he'd vote no and stuffed. A vote would be
like, yeah, 99 to one, it would have been he would be the one
that helps the one guy who would look him up as him. Yeah. And
you'd have some great reason for it and nobody else was paying
attention to or cared.
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, usually it's about the money. But this
is this is this is where we go down the tubes, man, we're going
down the tubes. It's not good. It's not this is not the way to
go. But meanwhile, the new the Pentagon who we still have been
waiting for them to pass an audit.
John C Dvorak: That'll be the day well, well, they won't even
in fact, Rand Paul, in that long thing. He didn't just people
should look this up. It's a long screed. He goes on and on about
the fact that they tried he's tried and others have tried to
pass a any bill whatsoever to get some oversight on the money
going to Ukraine so we can audit that money day and it won't get
passed. Not on I just send him money who gives a shit what
happens to it?
Adam Curry: Well, the comptroller the Comptroller, the
Pentagon Comptroller, Gregory Liddell has good news for us.
It's very good news. To make sense of all the provisions,
they have created an AI program codenamed game changer to gain
better visibility and understanding across our various
budgets. And he's very excited about this. AI to the rescue. I
love the name the audacity of calling it game changer. Oh,
sure.
John C Dvorak: We can be cynical. They should call it
money changer.
Adam Curry: There you go. And with that, I'd like to thank you
for your courage in the morning to you the man who put the C in
the CDC q&a Ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend on the
other end the honorable Mr. John Cena.
John C Dvorak: In the morning, you and Mr. Adam creating the
morning shifts and see out there boots on the ground feet near
subs in the water that Dames and nights out there
Adam Curry: in the morning controls and control room.
Hello, I'd like to count even though we are two hours running
around. Yeah, we have 2109. But we are two hours into the
program. I checked after one hour we were at 26. So we're
late. We're late to the donation segment. So I think we have a
good showing today. And we did take a short break on
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talked about last time that there's less memes I'm it's kind
of interesting people have given up on the memes and just the
they weren't working. I'm against it against memes.
John C Dvorak: I liked the memes.
Adam Curry: I use them in the newsletter. Now you all you just
want material. That's why you'd like me, I'm looking for
material course they got no material. It's always none of
it's good. There's a piece every
John C Dvorak: once in a while there's a real good one I
haven't used yet. No. A mean, that's good.
Adam Curry: Okay, I'm very excited to see that. Of course.
Unlike on any of the platforms. We don't have a video component.
We're not sitting here with our headphones on and waiting for
you to look at us. Which means we we don't draw too much
attention to ourselves. We also don't take any corporate money.
So we can talk about anything that we want. In fact, if we
want to talk a product about a product because we like it, it's
because we like it not because we're getting paid for it. And
we don't have to feign some kind of excitement over vaccines so
we get a stack swag bag
John C Dvorak: stack of money next
Adam Curry: stack or gold bars, which seems to be much funnier
than a stack or was it $500,000 stuffed into your coat? I mean
come on.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, have the clips Menendez is a second time
he's been indicted.
Adam Curry: But he got away with it on 2017 Didn't he? And by the
way I
John C Dvorak: because he had a hung jury and they didn't want
to retry and wasn't
Adam Curry: there to his wife he does his new wife seems to be
the one that brought all the all the problems in
John C Dvorak: to share that's sure she's got nothing to do
with it.
Adam Curry: She's the one that introduced them to the Egyptians
who then started to she's not innocent. As far as
John C Dvorak: I know she's also indicted.
Adam Curry: Oh good walk in and that makes sense. So instead her
there's
John C Dvorak: two other guys him and her just four people
indicted for the scandal. Do you want to do that? Yeah, money you
guys sewn into jackets
Adam Curry: sewn into jackets and Mercedes convertible and a
kilo of gold? That I like the kilo of gold. So instead we just
asked for value return for the value we will take a kilo a kilo
of gold? Yeah, absolutely. Will take a kilo of silver. We don't
care. I mean, gold better Silver's fine. So we see the
value people see the value to for 16 years almost in October,
people have been saying thank is very valuable program and they
send that value back in a multitude of ways. By being
producers. Everybody's a producer hitting people in the
mouth, giving us clips giving us artwork. Let's talk about that
for a second. The artists who not only do they provide artwork
for every single episode, they take feedback and criticism
quite well. And I think they do. No agenda social. Weird. I think
they do I think they do. Well, we were able to pick a piece for
episode 1592 titled Vermox which I don't know if anyone took the
time outside of the people who listen to the show to look up
what Vermox is, but we thought it was kind of an interesting
title. So we ran with it. But the artwork was bad. brought by
done by Matt boys. verts Boisvert boys bear boys word boi
sbrt. There was a really nice piece we both agreed kind of
quickly. It was the F 35 pilots who was parachuting out of which
I have an update actually from an actual
John C Dvorak: but you know if it says we're doing bonus stuff
during the donation segment, I have the 911 call he made
supposedly supposedly made from after he landed in someone's
backyard. We had
Unknown: a military jet crash on the pilot. We need to get rescue
rolling. I'm not sure where the airplane is. It would have
crashed landed somewhere I ejected along the way. Just a
moment, sir. Yeah, what are we good?
Adam Curry: All right. Part of the fall
Unknown: 2000 feet.
Adam Curry: Wow, that's I have a better recording than that. That
was
John C Dvorak: how hard did you How far did you fall? Is your
question? Yes. What does that got to do with the price of
anything?
Adam Curry: Well, if you listen to the whole call, the whole
thing is weird. as well.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there's some thought that it was
actually a female pilot. And this was just a scam.
Adam Curry: That might be but I now have because I have the INS
from an F 35 pilot from the 30 F 35 pilots that this pilot flew
into who apparently was a very was a experienced pilot flew
into bad weather had a total display failure. And at that
point, you become very disoriented. It's called the
liens I've had it happen to me and if you don't have
instruments that are working, which seems to every aircraft
that I've ever been in even the modern ones if they have a glass
cockpit, they still have a small gyro and an airspeed indicator
that is completely separate which is a mechanical you don't
and it has its own battery for lighting. And I can't get an
answer whether the F 35 has one backup system with gyro and you
know for your attitude like artificial horizon and your
airspeed indicator. If you don't have that in these in these
planes yeah you're gonna you're gonna punch out because you
don't know you think you'll be upside down you may be upside
down when you think you're flying straight so I don't I'm
not buying any of that I'm I think this is a design flaw.
This thing is a turkey
John C Dvorak: because what
Adam Curry: everybody seems to think everybody's what
everybody's saying.
John C Dvorak: Send them to Ukraine.
Adam Curry: There you go. So let's take a look at what else
we had for the previous episode. Less AI in fact, comic strip
blogger was apologizing no agenda socialists I'm sorry,
I'll only do one AI from now on. Then we had some actual pieces.
I wouldn't say that they were all great. But they weren't AI
generated Did
John C Dvorak: the Lincoln one I liked I think was probably AI.
Adam Curry: Yes, that's why we didn't use it.
John C Dvorak: No, it's not why Yeah, it is. I
Adam Curry: said it's AI. I like it and ISIS AI I didn't like it.
No, I think there was a SAG AFTRA net. Things just weren't
quite hitting but you know, sometimes it can be really
funny. I marginally liked Matt was another Matt Boisvert is
good for $33 trillion, an IOU but you know, and then funny
enough comics or Blogger had the F 35 Witness screaming against
the goat I'm not quite sure that that hit home we had a peach in
a banana cord who did that one punch in the podcast I don't
know then there's no there's no Parker Polly there's no way
we're going to put Fetterman on on our album marks this is not
going to happen. How many? How many times we have to say these
things. We're not going to put ugly people on the front of our
podcast art. No, like so we're currently already
John C Dvorak: banned ourselves and I should mention that
because coming up as a new artist pet Rex who put us on the
elbow Martin there's no that's not gonna happen that was
banned. We're gonna have a round. Jo 200.
Adam Curry: So we do congratulate Matt Boisvert for
creating the art that we chose. It was a beautiful piece really
was nice piece. He was very happy. It was artsy. It was
artsy. Yes, it was Archie. And everybody got it. Everybody who
saw that went out there got the boys are talking about that,
too. They got it like that. It was interesting. No agenda, art
generator.com. You can see the current standings of all the
artists how many times the art has been chosen, and you can
upload your own, you can participate or you could
participate in real time by refreshing it. While you're
while we're talking just because this is what the artists are
doing the creating in real time, or use one of those modern
podcast apps, you get to see a lot more of them as they come by
in our chapter image art. Now on to the treasure part, which is
the way we pay the bills, people sending us treasure in return
for the value we provide and it's completely up to you.
There's no There's no limits up or down to what you whatever you
feel the show is worth to you. Send that to us. Sometimes it's
just numerology. We'll get to that with our Kevin McLaughlin
donations but we start off with Countess Kim from Hubbard,
John C Dvorak: Oregon, of the neti fluffers
Adam Curry: of the nadi fluffers let me open up her note here
because she said today she's a duchess in the morning Adam and
John. Jingles who? I hadn't hadn't seen the note. Screw your
freedom is one of them. Okay. F cancer Archer due to karma and
Arnold screw your freedom enclosed a birthday gift for
myself. This donation brings me to Duchess May I now be known as
Duchess Kim, keeper of the naughty fluffers and can I
please can I please get a biscuit for my birthday? We'll
give you that. Right away. They always give me a biscuit on my
birthday. I also wanted to mention something about our
wonderful IRS Internal Revenue Service. Besides outstanding
hold music. You were told that they appreciate you being a
customer. I did not know there were other options. Thank you so
much for all the YouTube do your both are invaluable before I
found no agenda. I was living under my bed with my tinfoil hat
on. Now. I can go out and public tinfoil hat still firmly in
place and see all the loons around me. Thank you for your
free speech. Duchess Kim Chem keeper of the nutty fluffers
Hubbard Oregon $2,000 In a check form, which we appreciate since
there's no PayPal fee. Thank you very much, Kim and we will see
you we did tidal upgrade and just a little bit thank you so
much and let me give you you're required and requested. Jingle
edge. Where are we? There we go. Screw you freedom. And then she
needed the F cancer karma
Unknown: you've got karma
Adam Curry: that wasn't our two d two was that was our two d
two. sounds almost like
John C Dvorak: three or $33.67 comes in from Matt Dubois who's
in Draper Utah long note in the morning this is my final
donation to get me a knighthood as such are like my night name
to be served Mormon millennial. Thanks for everything you guys
do. I have been listening since before Trump got elected I'm
much saner for it. In fact, for the last seven years I've been
hearing Adams thoughts on s s our eyes and always thought
Nope, I need them and they are great. At least for my
situation. You as well as of about two months ago, I'm off my
SSRI and I feel like I've come out of a fog. Without getting
into details life is much better and I'm happier. I wanted to
share my experience so that other listeners on the fence can
think about it. Please play the first bit of weed don't talk
about Brandon and give me a Trump's job karma for the
promotion I'm fighting for. Lastly, on a Latter Day Saint as
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called. So I'm surprised to use the Mormon reference, which is
not it's not cool anymore. Last year is a Latter Day Saint in
Utah. I'd appreciate it if you would bring some green jello and
what it's funny is what you eat when you're a Mormon, green
jello and cherry coke to the round table. Actually, a lot of
real Mormons don't ever have a coke because it has caffeine in
it. So there you go, I guess. I guess that's just the one time
for the cherry coke. A ginger ginger ale was suffice for the
future round. Okay, he's referencing the caffeine. PS
easily the funniest thing I've ever experienced is when whilst
role playing. Adam told John to stay safe and John responded, go
f yourself. I had to pull over. I was laughing so hard.
Adam Curry: That was a good one. I think that maybe there was
another one. A couple of those. You had one today your genius
play a little bit of what he wanted to hear. Talk about jobs,
jobs, jobs.
Unknown: Karma
John C Dvorak: attributed to the people eat lime jello with fruit
cocktail mixed into it. There you go. There's your dessert.
Adam Curry: Thomas Ballmer is in Iowa City, Iowa 333 dot 49. In
the morning, John and Adam, the best podcast in the universe has
been killing it lately. Despite the well documented lack of
donations. Please add my son Nolan to the belated birthday
list. September 12. He was 17th Also I'll hit 49 on the 25th of
this month thanks for all you do that's tomorrow. You got it.
Thomas you're on it.
John C Dvorak: Sir See be in Harris Minnesota. Three Three
IgM Genesis is a switcheroo those donations for the value
for value from the goat karma products local 33 meet up sir
EagleEye won the raffle for the executive producer ship please
credit it to him. A great day was had by all 70 threes Katie's
zero vi X sir CB the Baronet of the builders.
Adam Curry: I think it's V JX. Little hard to see on the font.
Oh, I'm sorry, Scott, the welders in Brooklyn, New York
333 33. Please accept this modest donation for the
incredible service you guys provide. My father has been in
the hospital for the past six weeks dealing with a D Cubitus.
ulcer. Whatever it is, doesn't sound good. You know what this
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great. Yes, not only that, but it's one of the worst of
hospitals ever seen. He has many months to go after five
surgeries requesting prayers. You got it. Healing thoughts and
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Along with some health and goat karma. Also, today is my
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responsible for your own orgasm. What a great friend. So give me
a biscuit for the birthday. Oh, he wants a whole load on top of
it. Okay, do we have a whole load? Got a whole load for you.
And we'll give you that? Good Karma. They always give me a
biscuit on my birthday. I'm
Unknown: gonna give you the whole load.
You've got
John C Dvorak: your Isshin Hudson, Wisconsin. I have no
note from him. I can't find a note from him. 333 Dots three
three. I'm going to give him a double karma.
Unknown: You've got karma.
Adam Curry: Will gherkin checks in from Centennial Colorado 333.
Where was this crowd fun shout out on no agenda for karma opoli
from Sir Mike of axehead watchmakers, did I miss this
somewhere? I listened to every donation segment unless I'm
three plus episodes behind I can't imagine we'd have trouble
coming up with $20,000 Okay, first of all, I answered him
this note and I sent him the link from bing.io we most
definitely discussed Yes, we talked about it. So I questioned
his sincerity if
John C Dvorak: you got one and I didn't and it turned out you had
to prototype
Adam Curry: yes. He said I just send another 333 is promised
sorry for the delay things been crazy. That brings me to
knighthood, but I'll send accounting and title claims
sometime in the future. Like I said things are crazy. had to
make some time to pay you and John, we appreciate it. We'll
and with things being so crazy understand why you might have
missed the donation segment. It's Okay brother. Thank you so
much.
John C Dvorak: The Indie no agenda tribal meetup in
Greenwood, Indiana 917 ending in a tribal meetup this raffle
switcheroo donation on behalf of Dame Swanee in the morning from
Dame Swanee and please give me some goat karma. Hope to see you
in Indy at one of our no agenda meetups which he promised to go
to.
Unknown: You've got karma
Adam Curry: I hate to do this to you. But I think you need to do
this next one because it's our last
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Unknown: There it is.
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Adam Curry: And this concludes our executive and Associate
Executive Producers not a long list today. We appreciate it
though. Thank you. These credits are real. They are also forever
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questions you will be more than happy to vouch for you. And
thank you very much for being Executive Associate Executive
producers of episode 1593.
Unknown: Our formula is this. We go out we get people in the
mouth
Adam Curry: and John's going to take us through to the 50s and
we'll get to our nice things our title changes and of course
meetup reports we got quite a few today.
John C Dvorak: Sure loud pipe starts us off in Charlotte,
North Carolina $197.70 These are a lot of job requests job karma,
which that at the end. Paul Daniels in Fort grayish coal
grad there's a way of pronouncing this. The gravi are
at I O T Township Michigan needs a de douching you've been de
deuced became in with 150 also $110 from Jamie falacci Oh and
Clift their plot shows plus CEOs in Clifton, Virginia 110 in
field 100, Sir lineman in an Illinois 100. He's got a bunch
of 30 threes coming at him. Brady in Lee's Summit, Missouri
9933 Jason maror and Vancouver Washington 808 Kevin McLaughlin,
the Archduke of Luna lover of American boobs comes here with
808 to promote breast vine melons. Sir Boober in Nan
Nevada, Iowa 808 pisser Boober. This is his quarterly boob
donation. Thank you, Gary Blatt and Wayne, Pennsylvania 7777.
Thomas Ekman in San Francisco, California 68. Kevin McLaughlin,
again in Concord, North Carolina, the Archduke of Luna
Pino mill. I've had these melons Pepino melon. This is Pineo 606
s small boobs. David Jarman in North, Tara Mara, in Australia,
New South Wales. Ed Schwartzman in South Miami, Florida. 5784
Nisa de douching. You've been de deuced Scott Barrett and for
Johnson, Louisiana 5510 Herbert Garrett 55 Kansas double nickels
on the dime from Raleigh, North Carolina Surprise, surprise, in
Yukon, Oklahoma 5444. Forrest Martin 5005. And now we have the
$50 donors. I'm just gonna do the names and locations run
through starting with Sir Patrick may come in New York
City, Robert Han in Poway cat, California, or Poway. Poway. It
is pretty sure Poway Tatiana Prince in Hollywood, Florida
Michael Sikora in New Richmond, Wisconsin, Donald lock in
Pottsville, Pennsylvania. Michael Romano in Sebastopol,
California. Greg Huff, in Austin, Texas, gaucho
woodworking in Redondo Beach. Gaucho woodworking. By the way,
have a nice sight. Kate, I should get some stuff from them
Kate Haskell in San Rafael California. Alexa Delgado in
Aptos. California. Alex David Perdue in Snow Hill, North
Carolina Samuel Kennedy in North Riverside, Illinois, Brian
humble in Wimberley, Texas. Charles Boyd in San Marcos,
Texas. Andrew Butterfield in Bettendorf, Iowa unloaded 50s
Today, Diego Lopez crane in Ithaca, New York. Herbert J.
ratter. In New York City, West Stewart in Mesa, Arizona
birthday coming up for somebody in the Steven crummy family in
El Cajon. And Michael stadium, Parts Unknown and last on the
list is Tracy Sullivan in Tinley Park, Illinois. I want to thank
these people for making show 1593 We're getting close to 1600
Happy reality.
Adam Curry: Yes, thank you to these producers, our executive
and Associate Executive producers. We got our nights
note from James Jackson, who sent he became an instant night
on the last show he sent we got his note so it'd be knighted
today. And he humbly requested dT d deuced. And from this day
forward he shall be known as Sir James of the rolling hills. God
bless jingle requests big baller PS go cowboys.
Unknown: Sakala 20 is Blaze only Impala
Adam Curry: and as always, thanks everyone under 50
Typically for reasons of anonymity 4999 Is is a big one
that we see when people are doing that anonymously but also
people who are on our many sustaining donations you can
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Thomas Ballmer wishes his son Nolan that happy belated
birthday was on the 12th Surfing of the BMWs and Bulldogs Happy
Birthday to his smokin hot wife, Jennifer Roediger and she turned
41 Once you turn 41 Today, Thomas Ballmer turns 49 Tomorrow
Steven Crummer celebrates on October 2, don't just Kim is
celebrating as his Scott the welder and belated Happy
birthday to my sister in law Tony Dockery and my mother in
law Pat Allen nice and happy birthday from everybody here at
the best podcast in the universe. Change I
don't want to be induced. There's never douchebaggery when
it comes to a title change as you heard earlier, Countess Kim
came in big today and really supported the show. And she now
becomes well she becomes Duchess Chem keeper of the nutty
fluffers. And thank you so much Duchess can we appreciate that
and we shall for now, forevermore until you change
that. call you by your official title Duchess Kim. Two nice
things to go of course James and Matt so we got a sword here
which I'd like this sword. This
John C Dvorak: is a way go. Oh, that's
Adam Curry: the Bejeweled heft. Oh, nice. I like that a lot.
Careful now. Don't want that jewel to pop out. James Jackson,
Matt DuBois. off both of you go on the podium. Both of you have
become knight to the nogen roundtable today thanks to your
support of the show in the amount of $1,000 more and I'm
very proud to pronounce Kate the s Sir James of the rolling hills
and Sir Mormon millennial gentlemen for you. We've got
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now you'll recall we had a lot of meetups last is Thursday on
the 21st. So I expected to have quite a number of meet up
reports which we have. However unless you have an enormous
amount of people like Indiana, there's no reason your meet up
reports have to be over a minute long produce with funky stuff. I
don't have time to edit all this stuff. So keep it within reason,
folks, please Arlington, Virginia. Let's start with them.
Unknown: Hey, this is DC girl at the location of the first
Arlington meetup that took place five years ago. Today we are
celebrating our special guests sure such sir Shaun of Slovakia
and is smoking hot wife Bara in the morning
and Slovakia we don't even know if it's a real country. It could
be on the order of Narnia or Brigadoon or what conda for all
I know I have not seen evidence any evidence that it exists this
is
rounding
this is Jacob everybody glad to be here my second meet up he's
Bitcoin
and this is Sir William a West pencil tucky and Sir Sean shows
up in DC the same time as the Lenski coincidence,
I think I think not. This assertion of Slovakia with his
smokin hot wife Sir, not a dame Barra enjoying a hell of a meet
up and thanks to DC girl and Roger for setting this up. What
a great time.
SCHEFFER. Springfield.
Me too is back baby. Hey there, this is Trini murti. Some people
call me Baltimore. My name is Trini
Ajay CD. Remember that?
His name is Trini. But my name is Mike White. Comanche from
Arlington has been great meeting everybody. I also promised CSP
that I would I would shout him out as one of my favorite people
on the internet CSB on Mastodon and Twitter or CSB dot lol
follow me hailing from Alexandria I promised I would
Adam Curry: write the spokes in Arlington thank you for your
Meetup report Dix, Bert
Unknown: right it's sir CV and ser de expert here in Wyoming
Minnesota at the cornerstone pub and prime with the goat karma
producers local 33 meet up. The return of service experts say
predict fruit.
Adam John can't tell you how much fun I had. And now this
meetup has a spooky bone put up Adam John, this is Dame god of
the 10 key in the morning. In the morning. This is Peter with
Dame God the 1010 key going for the hattrick
circuitous route of the scooter clubs. I want the dude scream
karma. Alrighty, I'm Adam and John Cerignola here providing
feed forward to the millennials in the group Anonymous Jamie
here. Great meet up thanks gents. i This is
Katie M sir. seavees former sugar mama now I'm just the
cabana girl. Hey Jen. Adam. It's putting this is my first meetup
is good time. Wrap it up, John. All right. That's it from the
cornerstone pub and prime and Wyoming Minnesota. Come on next
time. Watch the meetups website and we'll get her done. Have a
good night. In the morning. Yes,
Adam Curry: thank you very much. And we go get your callsign Oh,
yes, kilo five Alpha. Charlie, Charlie, thank you very much.
And we go to Los Angeles for Leo Bravo flight of the
Unknown: it's Leo Bravo meet up number 44. Folks have something
to say. Here we go. COVID in the morning. Happy Birthday Jesse.
In the morning. This is Jesse half jacked.
In the morning. This is Eric.
Sir medic. Mike in the morning.
In the morning.
We're almost out of blow but it's still party equinox in the
morning.
Adam Curry: They are very rowdy over there in Los Angeles. Now
to Rosarito, Mexico. This
Unknown: is Brian of London, and I'm at the Rosarito meetup in
Mexico, and people came here from Jesse.
Hello, this is Jesse. I'm in Rosarito with Brian of London,
having the time of our lives in the morning, gentlemen,
in the morning, this is stalkers from pipe fest, Freedom meetup,
we
all know agenda lovers here. Come on down. We're having a
great time. It looks at the freedom lovers. There's others
out there all the best no agenda. We love you.
Adam Curry: We love you too. Thank you very much sir Brian of
London, South Dakota.
Unknown: In the morning, this is Dr. I at the boots on the ground
meetup in San Diego at the meadery Hari Krishna
This is damn moment AI or not AI you decide in the morning David
Kelly of the crushed grapes
This is Sir Matthew black men of the ice giants who needs the
hair of the dog when you can drink mead called the jackal a
this is Sir my guides em guys loving it here with our San
Diego no agenda fans in the morning this is Sir cam in the
morning this is halfway third. Vic definitely not a spook
is my concerns he?
Definitely honestly but I think I've seen a guy or two around
here that might glow in the dark.
Adam Curry: And our final one comes from Sonoma Wine Oh
country.
Unknown: In the morning, Adam and John this is Sir
recalcitrant crazy Steve the second that Sonoma wine country
meetup 2.0. John, keep bumping that microphone. I like it.
Suresh Meister here asking
everyone.
Are we having fun?
That's a good question.
Adam Curry: It's not a great one.
Unknown: Sir Casey, here at the meet up here in Sonoma County.
Let's have fun, everybody.
All right, Linda from the Shire of Sebastopol. Special thanks to
our sir Councilman Steve and always thanks to John and Adam,
who are the OG pod masters. In a world full of weird pod casts,
okay. Sonoma County.
Adam Curry: Love. Love. Love this lens. Max first meet up in
the morning. Tighten it up. People tighten it up, please. I
had an idea. I don't know what to say. Tighten it up.
Unknown: Sir Preston calling Casey up for Stolen Valor. He's
not a knight. Thanks, Steve, for making this happen.
We love you guys in the morning.
Adam Curry: There you go wrapping it up. And thanks to
Sir SCOBY for his written report about the 33rd annual nap for
humanity meet up on the 17th was a great success five and
attendance sort of psychopath who hosted the golf outing.
Sirloin super freak of the cat cut, cut Arwa Weaver with
Joshua, his smokin hot girlfriend, Sierra Sierra. And
there was much laughter there you go now. Okay, thank you so
much. And thank you all for sending in your reports. And you
can hear that there's something going on. There is a revival of
sorts, people are getting together, hanging out, doing
things that we all got traumatized about doing during
COVID and we all have some form of trauma, but this is what you
need to get back in the game. And no one else is doing this
certainly not for a podcast but if you do you'll find that that
connection brings you protection go to no agenda meet ups.com You
will not regret it. Find one near you. If you can't start one
yourself. It's really easy.
Unknown: Sometimes you go hang out with Dyson days. You won't
be triggered. You wouldn't be feels the same. Is like a bar.
Adam Curry: Always like a party. Oh, man. Such a good good
groups. We love that. We're making difference in people's
lives. You keel over you still there? Ah. I suppose I got two
here we go. I don't think you could hear what they said there.
No, no. How about this one? Science. I kind of like that.
Ah, I thought that was kind of cute. Okay, um, tu tu,
John C Dvorak: tu tu. All right, but you gotta try. Wow. 10 Wow.
Adam Curry: So yeah, something else. Oh, what happened to the
AMA? This one.
Unknown: Do something.
Adam Curry: There you go do something. I'll take it's a good
one. It sounds good. I like I like to do something top notch.
John C Dvorak: You know that is Biden. Yeah, of course. Yeah.
Adam Curry: I wanted to play a quick couple of clips here
because this showed up on American Public Media's
marketplace. Which is isn't an NPR program.
John C Dvorak: One of them. Yeah, I
Adam Curry: think it airs on NPR. We should
John C Dvorak: play the it's one of the public. Yeah.
Unknown: elitist voices of America. This is NPR
or PBS.
Adam Curry: And this is a very I thought a very important part
and clip because it It foretells the future of AI and how AI is
going to fail. And have you heard of model collapse? No,
model collapse
Unknown: is this. The problem with AI output right now is that
it's really good but it's something I'm just a little off
like you're talking to chuck GPT. And it's, it's like it's
99% there, but it's 1%. Inhuman in a kind of a weird way. And so
what Mala claps is, is those little inhuman things getting
compounded and rolled up, right? Because the AI is being trained
on a previous one. So it's kind of learning that weirdness, and
then it starts turning into a little snowball.
Yeah, it starts to get really bad. Right, right. Yeah.
I mean, like, it's like, if you do it over several generations,
you know, the first generation, it's kind of making sense. And
the second one is starting to, like, you know, just say odd
words. An analogy might be, if you were to take a famous
painting or a photo like like the Mona Lisa, or, you know, a
picture of, you know, King Kong on top of the Empire State
Building, and you were to photocopy it. And then photocopy
the photocopy. And then photocopy the photocopy.
Eventually, I started to
John C Dvorak: sort of live with the guy who's got a weird
cadence. What is this guy?
Adam Curry: Oh, they both are weird. Oh, no, no, they're both
very weird. But they're, they're just trying to make, they're
trying to explain in very simple terms, what model collapses
state
Unknown: building, and you were to photocopy it, and then
photocopy the photocopy, and then photocopy the photocopy,
eventually, it starts to sort of look really weird, because the
photocopy is sort of, you know, 99% accurate. But that 1%
inaccuracy will change, maybe the contrast or the color, make
it a little too white, little to black. And then after the
hundreds time, you've got a really weird looking picture.
Adam Curry: So first of all, I think your observation is, and I
can say this, with some certainty is either Adderall or
Vyvanse, I would make a lot of sense for this age group. But
this is model collapse, where you know, the, in the case of
the type of AI you've been playing around with, where you
type, in some words, it creates an image, and then that you post
that image to the internet, either on your social media or
in the newsletter, it gets out there, the AI sucks it up again.
And then before, you know, you don't have five foot, six
fingers, you got 20 fingers, it's everything gets all messed
up, because the AI keeps learning from its own mistakes.
And this has implications,
Unknown: what are the implications of model collapse?
Well, the implications are that, you know, maybe all of these
language models are over the next few years is going to start
to become worse and worse and worse, right? That's one
possibility. If model collapse is really a serious thing, and
open AI, and Google and Microsoft, and everyone just
keeps on scraping the internet and feeding it to train their
models, they, they could get much worse models. And we could
be using models that answer, you know, even more unpredictably
and even longer than they do now.
Adam Curry: longer, longer. even longer. I think, I think I think
this is a real problem. They think
John C Dvorak: it's not, why not to correct these things,
somewhere along the line. People known as coders.
Adam Curry: No, wait, but that's the beauty of it. Yes, you're
right, there is a solution to model collapse, surprise, it's
humans.
Unknown: I doubt that's the way it's gonna go. Because I think
all these people that run these models create these models are
going to see this happening and get very worried about it. And
they're either going to not release a new model that's, you
know, even more deranged than existing lies. They'll probably
try and find some way that they'll find some way to cope
with it, fix it, right. Like you could pay humans just to write
new probes for you. You could say like, we you know, I need I
need a billion more lines of stuff, please just write stuff,
write anything so that we can feed it the model? You know,
that
John C Dvorak: was the right a billion lines of anything, but
Okay. Say it again? Well, you said you can hire humans to
write a billion lines. And
Adam Curry: he's talking about pros.
John C Dvorak: He's literally no, yeah, so this one you can't
have nobody writes a billion lines.
Adam Curry: Now he's on Pisan Vyvanse. The point is, that the
only way to make AI work it's not as can't self learn, it
can't self learn because it's it feeds all its mistakes back into
itself in a recursive manner. And it winds up turning into
blubber
Unknown: stuff please just write stuff write anything so that we
can feed it the model you know, that's that's one thing they
could do. The other thing is they could maybe try to save you
know, shards of the of the older training datasets and use them
to sort of freshen things up that there's a lot of different
AI techniques you can use and I think they're going to have to
lean into discovering even new ones to cope with this over the
next five to 10 years.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I'm all in on this this this and by the way,
just shows that AI is bunk. His bunk
John C Dvorak: was not a AI that's for sure. It's just a
text it's a technology to Iterative technology is used for
all kinds of good things. Here an AI Art Generator
Adam Curry: you're not good things they're horrible things
they're no good.
John C Dvorak: Well turn about no good i My last clip.
Adam Curry: Now you don't give a crap about what I'm saying. then
you just want to get to your last clip. No,
John C Dvorak: no, I what you're saying I just think it's bold
crap. What is very strong technology is going to have a
lot of implications on both the art world and elsewhere.
Adam Curry: Okay, all right. You know what it's going to eat the
world we're all gonna die. I didn't say that give you Elon
number. I think it's going nowhere. This is not going
anywhere. It will not have strong implications we can agree
to disagree.
John C Dvorak: New York City, Robocop.
Adam Curry: Another AI invention.
Unknown: Robo cops in New York City. The NYPD today rolling out
a new security robot to patrol around the Time Square subway
station. The 420 pound device will be working from six in the
morning to midnight, while accompanied by an actual cop.
Here's Mayor Eric Adams announcing the launch
conference.
We are committed to exploring innovative tools to continue to
make this city the safest big city in America. And this robot
K five, it has the potential to serve as an important tool in
our toolbar.
The robot will do actively recording videos throughout its
shift for the NYPD to review. Officials say the machine
doesn't have facial recognition and it won't be recording audio.
It'll be on duty for two months as a pilot program.
John C Dvorak: What good is it?
Adam Curry: Well, I don't know. That seems to me, that's your
that's your AI right there and a beginner
John C Dvorak: just dumb it's gonna be a fancy. Just say Look,
don't turn the sound on heaven forbid you catch it, hearing
anything. And second, what's the why not have facial recognition
that God can't do it?
Adam Curry: I am still I'm still blown away by you saying that AI
will have significant implications in the art world.
Have you seen the art that we had to moan about because it was
so crap?
John C Dvorak: Nobody's using the good stuff.
Adam Curry: There is no good stuff. There is no good stuff.
John C Dvorak: There's good stuff Believe me,
Adam Curry: where's the output of the good stuff?
John C Dvorak: I could send you some links to some stuff that's
you know, got plenty of guy quality output. It's just It's
astonishing some of it where it's gonna is completely
destroyed the spot art business for sure. What is spot art
business? Well, when you see we read an article and there's a
little piece of art in the middle just to kind of emphasize
aspects of the article. It's called Spot art. People scatter
spot art through lots of generally essays
Adam Curry: Wow, that's gonna upset the world.
John C Dvorak: Big deal. I used to have a spot art guy when I
was at Mac user and they got rid of him and they started using
this tool called call outs, which is just blowing up the
tape real big and I demanded to get my spot art guy back like I
did.
Adam Curry: The spot art will suck up its own spot art and
it'll just it'll just the fidelity will fade over time.
Yeah, okay. This is a money grab for it. This is the new
blockchain. No way. And I'm just you know what? to coin a phrase.
I'm not buying it. Oops, I don't know why I did that.
John C Dvorak: It's AI.
Adam Curry: Oh, with AI that wouldn't have happened. Yeah,
that's true. That's true. Oh, my goodness. Comics, your blogger
no need to post anything. He's like, there's lots of money to
be made in AI. If you're an AI programmer. I know. That's where
the money is. Well, we shall see. We shall see. Coming up. No
agenda stream.com. We have that Larry show. And we have end of
show mixes from see what do we have here? Somehow something got
messed up. We have DS laughs and we have Nostradamus and I'm
coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill country here in
FEMA Region number six. I say in the morning to you. I'm Adam
curry
John C Dvorak: in from Northern Silicon Valley where I just
realized I'm working with a Luddite named John C Devorah.
Adam Curry: won't take you back john. No matter what your drive.
Remember us at the vorak.org/na we will return on Thursday. Join
us for that will you until then adios mofos Hui Hui, and such
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that we have scorched earth you don't say wet bulb dry bulb
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barometer listen to NPR see how it all gets me code switching
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tracking the crazies on the tin foil being never sounded
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withstand that so high you can sit outside in the shade
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