John C Dvorak: Grab her and throw her in the camp.
Unknown: Adam curry Jhansi Devorah
Adam Curry: September 14 2023 This is your ward winning
combination media assassination episode 1590. This is no agenda
fossilized, mummified and broadcasting live from the heart
of the Texas hill country here in number six in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry
John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where we're all
wondering, What did burrata cheese become a thing? I'm Jesse
to our x
Adam Curry: scale. Well, I happen to be a big fan of
burrata. The burrata issue would be oh, this has been around
forever. Italy. In everywhere.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah. Italy, et cetera.
Adam Curry: burrata cheese. Yeah. Is this this has been
everywhere.
John C Dvorak: Italy. Everywhere.
Adam Curry: Italy, in Holland and France, Spain, Spain. Spain
has always had
John C Dvorak: never heard of it till two years ago.
Adam Curry: You'd never heard of burrata until two years ago, you
John C. Dvorak. wine connoisseur and foodie to the stars. Yeah.
Wow.
John C Dvorak: is proud of me and may have passed my way. But
as that never was the thing, whether using it left and right
on every cooking show on TV.
Adam Curry: Oh, I see. You watch some television. Don't do that.
It's not good for your health. You should not. Oh, on cooking
show. So okay. I gotcha.
John C Dvorak: I gotcha. Well, the other one that reminds me of
nobody took off like a rocket. Yes. Smoked paprika.
Adam Curry: No, no. What's the other one? No, there's some
John C Dvorak: no smoke. Paprika became a big thing. Yeah. And I
know exactly where it came from. Okay, that one I did catch the
Genesis. All right. Well, it's been around for smoked paprika
is not a new invention. But again, it became a thing.
Rachael Ray.
Adam Curry: Okay, cooking shows in a cooking show popular right.
It's like cooking shows like podcasts. Whatever we do on our
podcast here, shows up on talker it shows up all over the place.
I mean, everyone who else was telling me like they're always
taking our stuff. That's how
John C Dvorak: they are. That's what you were leaders were we
aren't leaders
Unknown: just trash. We
Adam Curry: That's right, everybody is if your world
wasn't crazy enough if you weren't spun up in this nutty
world, of course we've got to distract you and get you all
jacked up about this.
Unknown: Well, tomorrow, NASA is set to release the findings of a
heavily anticipated report on unidentified anomalous phenomena
also known as UAPs. Now it comes as Mexico holds its first ever
hearing on UFOs. With scientists putting on display what they
claim are the remains of two extra terrestrials news nations
Joe Khalil joins us live with these developments.
Adam Curry: I just love that news nation Leads Leads
everything this is the same news nation that had the so called
whistleblower for an exclusive interview news nation that has
they found their niche, their niches knishes bullcrap stories
about aliens they really nailed it this time.
John C Dvorak: I have a clip. So you came from it came from
elsewhere. This actually came from NTD so I was given a little
more credit.
Adam Curry: Oh, not just not just credit, we'll give him a
jingle.
John C Dvorak: This is in the the the actual aliens Mexico
story,
Unknown: Mexico could become the first country to speak about the
presence of aliens on Earth and a government document. Lawmakers
considered evidence today including small corpses that one
researcher calls non human. According to organizers these
two mummified stuffed bodies were recovered in 2017. In Peru,
they are reportedly 718 100 years old, respectively, with
only three fingers on each hand and elongated heads to lead
researchers to the DNA testing shows many differences from
humans. He sees them as clear evidence of aliens, but has
previously been refuted by other scientists for some of his
related stances. This all happened at Mexico's first
public congressional hearing on the proposed aerial space
protection law.
Adam Curry: Oh, so they also have a military industrial
complex that needs money. That's that's what this was about when
we'd had the hearings a couple of weeks ago. Oh, we need we
need money in case the aliens come. So they have that too.
Right at the right at the end. They said it. Yeah, that's
John C Dvorak: what it is here to get my alien space force.
They came 17,000 years ago. They'll be here any minute. They
should send
Adam Curry: the DNA to 23andme see how many politicians are
related to it because it
Unknown: happened at Mexico. Public congressional hearing on
the opposed aerospace protection law,
Adam Curry: aerospace protection law money that you know, Ukraine
is petering out. We haven't gotten Taiwan going yet. Let's
get some aliens in there. We can get some space technology going
people, satellites this is I mean, does anyone believe this
at this point? I mean, I think I think the shark has been jumped
with this one to coin a phrase.
John C Dvorak: Did you see the picture going around?
Adam Curry: And he had one of Dianne Feinstein yeah
John C Dvorak: I saw that I couldn't stop laughing.
Adam Curry: The other one is actually younger than Dianne
Feinstein so well, it's too bad because well maybe it was
purposeful but it certainly covers up the Apple event. Man I
can't believe I watched it but I did and I
John C Dvorak: did I would do enough to avoid it.
Adam Curry: I have a report. I have a quick boots on the ground
report. I watched the Apple event of the new iPhone and the
new the boot. I'm the Bucha I'm the boot I watched it I watched
watch the whole thing. So first of all, just so you know, John,
everything every single thing is gorgeous. This is the key word
you got to use with iPhone now.
John C Dvorak: It's gorgeous. Just an iPhone.
Adam Curry: It's gorgeous. It's a watch it's gorgeous. So they
start this thing off with the Apple Watch. I'm not going to
play into clips or anything but they started off with eight
testimonials of people who almost died I almost died
because a heart attack almost died because I had AFib almost
died because I had low blood pressure almost died because I
was hiking and I was stuck almost died because I was in a
crash. And I was unconscious less interesting almost died
because of my Eevee ran out of battery on a Texas as a highway.
But the Apple Watch saved me. That's that's how they started
the whole thing off.
John C Dvorak: That's a good bit.
Adam Curry: It's like they're telling you without this you
could be dead. With without the Apple Watch, you might be not a
single.
John C Dvorak: I've done a pretty good job of convincing
people to have to carry a phone with them all the time.
Adam Curry: Well, now if you get the cellular Apple watching on
your phone, it's got everything in there. Oh yeah, you you can
just double tap with your fingers and you don't even have
to touch the phone anymore because now it's tracking your
body movements is fantastic. I have had a non charging watch
for 34 years is gorgeous. And it works just great. It has never
saved my life that I know of. But
John C Dvorak: they have it could probably stop a bullet the
Apple Watch probably can't
Adam Curry: something else I noticed 90% of all men that work
at Apple are bow legged. This is very, very interesting
phenomena. It starts with Tim Cook he's bow legged. Half of
these guys no more 90% of these guys are bow legged and the
women want men very wearing very unattractive skirts with with
you know gym shoes runners tight if we were producing this it
would be very
John C Dvorak: different life shirt never noticed the bow
legged thing now as you pointed out, we won't be able to take my
eyes away from
Adam Curry: it. They're all bow legged. Now location on your
iPhone is even more precise.
John C Dvorak: You wonder what they're straddling so much that
they got bow legged Hey
Adam Curry: yo. So now when you're looking for your friends
in the Farmers Market, which is hilarious you're there in the
Farmers Market Hey Do they have any apples Hold on let me turn
on noise canceling What do you have any apples Of course they
have apples it's the farmers market here I'll drop a pin come
find me precision finding now for even better drone targeting.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and stalking. And then
Adam Curry: they had this whole Mother Nature skit,
John C Dvorak: which you did watch the whole thing.
Adam Curry: Oh yeah. Did you see that thing?
John C Dvorak: I didn't see any of it I avoided it. I knew that
the products were there's nothing new what's the point?
Adam Curry: Yeah, they had a October via Spencer not a cheap
get for this. Played Mother Nature in the most woke thing
I've ever seen where Apple is gonna get rid of all carbon
everywhere. Everything we do there's no carbon. Any I was it
was a sharp jump just to totally just like the aliens. So sorry,
there's still a $1,200 phone. Yay. Sir, was very, very key.
Exactly. That's pretty much blow your nose on it. It was just
just nuts. And a lot of interesting happens interesting
things happening in the world outside of you know, 10,000
people dying in Libya because of Danly damage. draining 20 dams
breaking it, which
John C Dvorak: means it will be 30
Adam Curry: I mean climate change. That's here. I got a
clip here from
John C Dvorak: two dams bust Yeah, nobody's climate change.
Unknown: The mayor of a flood ravaged city along the
Mediterranean Sea and Libya said today 18 to 20,000 people could
be dead in the wake of Monday's historic floods. drone video
shows the widespread damage after two major dams collapse
when 16 inches of rain drenched parts of the region on Sunday,
entire neighborhoods were destroyed, leaving 10s of 1000s
without homes.
Adam Curry: Yeah, this didn't include the climate change
moniker because that did show up pretty much everywhere else. But
it's dams and when when we learned that dams need to be
maintained, dams dikes got to maintain them. Now it's like
they're just doing it to get climate change. I don't think
anyone cares about people anymore. Their own energy
secretary was the new theory for a while. Yeah, my own it. People
were very expendable, or as they would say fungible, people are
fungible. Even though this happened in July, for some
reason now. Our energy secretary Granholm with the saucers on the
side of her head, those huge ears she has she and she's been
on a road trip. an Eevee road trip and and she ran it. It's
like I don't know exactly what popped this story or why it
happened. But here's the gist of it.
Unknown: All right. Get a lot of this one Energy Secretary
Jennifer Granholm has electric vehicle road trip
Adam Curry: I love New Energy Secretary she's been there for a
bit running into trouble
Unknown: while trying to tout the administration's green push
Fox businesses. Great travel joins us live so Grady this got
so bad that they had to call the police is that right?
That's right, Brian, a staffer apparently tried to hold the
only available electric vehicle charger for the Energy Secretary
by parking a gas powered vehicle in the spot that is According to
NPR, a couple with a baby wanted to use the same charger. So the
reporter who was tagging along on the trip says the young
family called the cops on the staffer. The staffer wasn't
breaking any laws, though. So nothing came of that call to
police. But Secretary grant Holmes road trip from North
Carolina to Tennessee back in June highlights just how
difficult it is to find the electric vehicle charging
stations and to drive EVs long distance.
Adam Curry: I think it's actually a planted story. And
you think no but I mean a plant is story to someone who's going
to come up with some plan some Bill has to be passed. I think
the alien story interrupted it. You know that we need
John C Dvorak: to do it later. Biden may be due for I said in
the newsletter, Biden is due overdue for a speech where he's
they jack him up because he hasn't been given the juice for
probably a month, maybe longer. And so he staggered around the
world, you know, very, very, barely able to talk and he keeps
pushing the idea of you know, 500,000 charging stations. Yeah.
So maybe it's got something to do with that. I do it. I did get
a clip of somebody put together I would like to make this a
longer clip. And I think I can do it. Of Biden when he is
jacked up when they give them to
Adam Curry: Are you are you moving away from climate change?
All of a sudden, you're hijacking my segment?
John C Dvorak: No, let's do it's a better word for the night
jacket. What was I used in SERP? No, I forgot
Adam Curry: clip crash. It was something like that. I'll get
you to Biden in a moment. The most uninteresting man in the
world did not win. He's jacked up. I think Queen Ursula is more
is more interesting. But
John C Dvorak: back to climate change. Yes. Back to climate
change.
Adam Curry: We'll get back to I'll swing it. I'll swing it to
you and the most uninteresting man in the world. After we get
to the Queen.
John C Dvorak: I have no clips on climate change.
Adam Curry: I only have to. Here's Queen Ursula on I'm
sorry, I should say she did the state of oh, that's how I should
have transitioned. Speaking of Biden State of the Union. Here's
Queen Ursula state of the European Union, a little clip
about climate change.
Unknown: Honourable Members. Four years ago, the European
Green Deal was our answer to the call of history. And this
summer, the hottest ever on record in Europe was a stark
reminder of that. Greece and Spain was struck by ravaging
wildfires. And were hit again only a few weeks later by
devastating floods,
Adam Curry: devastating floods. And we saw
Unknown: the chaos and carnage of extreme weather, from
Slovenia to Bulgaria and right across our union. This is the
reality of a boiling planet.
John C Dvorak: She lays
Adam Curry: the reality. Don't you dare speak against Queen
Ursula. This is the reality she
John C Dvorak: is more boring than Biden. I will say a boiling
planet.
Unknown: European Green Deal was born out of this necessity to
protect our planet. But it was also designed as an opportunity
to preserve our future prosperity. We started this
mandate by setting long term perspective, with the climate
law and the climate goals. We shifted the climate agenda to
being an economic one. And this has given clear sense of
direction for investment and innovation. And we have already
seen this growth strategy delivering in the short term.
Europe's industry is showing every single day that it is
ready to power this transition, it's ready proving that
modernization and decarbonisation can go hand in
hand. In the last five years, the number of clean steel
factories in the European Union has grown from zero to 38. We're
now attracting more investment in clean hydrogen, then the
United States and China together.
Adam Curry: Okay, so this is where I need your expertise
because when she says, we went from zero to 38, clean steel
factories, clean steel, and then right after that, she says we're
more advanced with clean hydro gene than America and China put
together I asked you are they making steel with hydro gene
now? What is clear heard of such a thing? What is clean steel?
Well, I have an answer.
John C Dvorak: Well, then why are you asking me to
Adam Curry: see if you had an answer? Because you've never
heard of such a thing and correct because it's bull crap.
Here's how clean steel is made you think somehow, they've taken
hydrogen, I'm sorry, clean hydrogen, and they could make it
all hot enough to produce steel. No, no. producing clean steel
begins in the scrap yard. Scrap with limited amounts of certain
elements such as copper, tin, sulfur and phosphorus will yield
cleaner Steel's the alloys used in clean steel production also
need tightly tight quality controls regarding the chemistry
and residual elements. So they're taking scrap steel and
then putting it melt melting it into new steel and calling it
clean
John C Dvorak: so the scrap is basically scrap iron recycled
James cycle
Adam Curry: Yes. recycled scrap iron. Yeah, I don't think I want
to go across a bridge that is made of this clean steel
John C Dvorak: should be fine.
Adam Curry: It should be fine.
John C Dvorak: It's just like play it up that way we're so
we've given up we don't make steel anymore. We now have to
this is an excuse. And that what what are the 38 facilities? Are
they just scrap yard in their backyards? smelter I mean,
what's going on here? In the 40s? Exactly
Adam Curry: the great the Great Leap Forward. Exactly. People
making steel in their in their yards. It could be scrap yard
scrap metal and steel. Yeah, could be. All right. Here's
where we're where we are mistaken. There's so much money
in climate change.
John C Dvorak: But not mistaken. We've known this all along?
Well, we're mistaken by doing this podcast instead of Oh,
yeah, we should do a climate change podcast standard, right,
instead of producing
Adam Curry: wonderful 20 minute videos of which I'm going to
play a minute, because here's where the big money is baby.
Unknown: According to the latest IPCC report, we are past the
point of no return for 1.5 degrees Celsius. And we're need
to make rapid fundamental changes to our society this
decade to stop it going any further than that.
Adam Curry: Now, just remember, you and I could do a much better
job producing this video but wait for it.
Unknown: This will be hard. There's no way we as a species
will be able to achieve this hard path unless we can agree on
the facts that underpin it though. Without the broader
context of agreed upon data, it will forever be perfectly
possible to arrive at a wide range of conclusions and
different paths we should take. That is why when it comes to any
discussion, context is so important. By looking at the
pattern of our planet's history, we see that the current uptick
in global temperatures obviously an induced event that doesn't
match already existing patterns, and it perfectly coincides with
human activity. debate what you want to do with that information
and the best path to take in light of it. But these are the
facts set in ice and the bones of organisms long dead. They
will broke no argument, dealing with all the crises that the
world seems to throw at you daily can get It's a little
overwhelming. Sometimes it's important to take care of
yourself. That's why today's video is in partnership with
better help. Mental health is a cause that is deeply important
to me.
Adam Curry: So better help paid for a 20 minute video to scare
people. And then to say, if you're scared, use BetterHelp
because we can help you get over this frightened anxiety that you
have because of climate change. Do you see? Do you see the
mistake we're making? Oh, we've known this forever. But I mean,
this is genius.
John C Dvorak: Do it. It's corrupt. We can't bring
ourselves to being that corrupt. That's just nothing. That was
just pure corruption. Of course.
Adam Curry: It's corruption. BetterHelp the number one
advertiser last month on podcasts? I'll have you no, no.
Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's a fact. Yes, they but and the only
90 Where did that number come from?
Adam Curry: From? Sounds profitable? This is these are
numbers. These are this is from the industry. I pay attention to
the podcast industrial complex. We I would hope so. But here's
the thing. $9 million they spent in one month. I still don't see
how that how the industry is 2 billion. Okay, maybe it's me.
Yeah, better health spent $9 million on podcasts. Wait, we
could we could take their ads. Hey, John, are you feeling a
little anxious? Because of all this climate change or the
nervous wreck? Maybe we should talk to our better health
doctor. No, we can't pull it off. Anyway, back to Joe Biden.
John C Dvorak: Yes, looking at this or I'm sorry, I was looking
at some article about Walter Isaacson where they discuss he
did the musk bio.
Adam Curry: You I have I have clips. Oh, unless I just
John C Dvorak: had to play the read the headline from the
Intelligencer, the journalist in the billionaire? What did an old
establishment guy like Walter Isaacson learn writing Elon
Musk's biography and this is a plant his story that promotes
the book all
Adam Curry: planted. Now,
John C Dvorak: when did Walter Isaacson become an old
establishment guy?
Adam Curry: Isn't he the epitome of access journalism? Like I
will write a Fanta out you'll you'll you'll come off as a as a
hardcore dude. But everyone will love you beautiful picture on
the cover. Don't worry about it's all good. Let me embed with
you.
John C Dvorak: Isn't that how it works? That is an element.
Adam Curry: Do you want to hear the three quick clips I have
from Walter Isaacson and with Savannah Guthrie about either
the biography
John C Dvorak: Absolutely. I think that's got to be just
gotta go right up front. Okay,
Adam Curry: well, he's identified different modes, that
Elon has different modes. You know, like, there's grumpy John
happy John. There's nobody Adam. There's what other modes do I
have?
John C Dvorak: I will mention them.
Unknown: And the lawn can turn dark too and get very tough on
people.
Do you see that as well? Yeah, well,
you sometimes see him he has many personalities. First time
you're around a really you know half joking guy or a guy playing
you know, engineering mode in which time to goes into it.
Claire boo che his occasional girlfriend known as Grimes calls
demon mode demon mode, and that's when it gets dark.
Can you give some examples? Sometime sometimes
Adam Curry: weather needs some examples. I'm so excited about
Elon Musk. I mean, I've been doing Grimes you could do me
Unknown: dinner or had a meeting or walking on a factory line.
You can see the clouds gathering I remember for 2030 times I'll
give you one which is in South Texas at the tip of South Texas
is Boca Chica. We has a launch pad for starship and one Friday
night at around 10pm he sort of joking about everything. And
then he sees that only two people working at the pack is
10pm on a Friday night. But you can see the dark and he just
explodes and for about an hour. He's berating people, and then
he orders up what he calls a surge. He wants 200 people there
by the next day. So they start working. So this tension for
drama comes out of the childhood to
Adam Curry: oh, it comes out of his Isaac's and apparently not
working for better health. It's Yes, it's from his youth is
childhood. The demon mode. He has another mode is called manic
mode.
Unknown: There are occasions in the book where you refer to Musk
as being in manic mode. I mean manic that is a term of art and
mental health.
Adam Curry: I mean, another better help commercial.
Unknown: Are you suggesting or in any way? Do you question
whether he struggles with mental illness? Oh, yeah.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Let me ask you a question, John. How come
Savannah Guthrie is talking about what she just said. You
know, this is clearly mental health. Does she ever say that
about I don't know, our President
Unknown: talking about in the book he talks about he talks
about he's you know, hasn't been officially diagnosed. He says,
we talked about bipolar, he takes up a lot of prescription
medicines at
John C Dvorak: what hard stop hard stop. He hasn't been
diagnosed,
Adam Curry: but he takes a lot of prescription medicine.
John C Dvorak: I was impossible. How is that possible?
Adam Curry: You gotta wonder, you gotta wonder maybe maybe he
has ever been diagnosed,
John C Dvorak: but he's got a lot of prescriptions that he
takes. That's
Adam Curry: right. That's right. It's, by the way, manic mode is
a term of art.
John C Dvorak: I heard that too. They would have stopped. There
Unknown: hasn't been a
Adam Curry: second. Yeah, please.
John C Dvorak: When did Isaacson have time to do this book? He
was rolling around together guy still at the Aspen Institute.
He's in all these meetings. He's like a spook. I mean, Where's
where's this? Where's the time?
Adam Curry: He had an outline? Here's the outline. Wait,
John C Dvorak: before you do that? I don't know if you
remember it, but I sure do. And I don't know if we got a clip of
it. But he was on some talk show about a year ago saying he lost
his editor that's at I forgot who is working with those Simon
and Schuster Doubleday, one of them. Some editor he worked with
all the time. Is that was his his go to editor, which was the
go between editor I'm guessing with whoever is doing a lot of
this research. And he's retired. He's not going to write any more
books. It's what he said. Is
Adam Curry: this from 2017. Maybe Could it be that long ago?
Unknown: It could be why did Florence Florida
Adam Curry: that was his book on Leonardo da Vinci? No, I don't I
don't know what
John C Dvorak: I don't know if I if I but he did say this dead.
He was the editor was gone. That was the end of him. And I just
made the assumption that that was, you know, the some
mechanism that was in place that allowed me to do these big
books, somehow was now missing because of the editor. I don't
know there's another book by like to know what happened. What
does Oh, wait, let me guess Savannah asks, a pertinent
question along these lines.
Unknown: You know, hasn't been officially diagnosed. He says
Elon available to me has been talks about bipolar, he takes up
a lot of prescription medicines that he can be variable in his
moods and Sarah Lyon does a Jekyll and Hyde quality where he
will go into a dark, depressed mood and say some things
sometimes things that his father said to him. And then a few
hours later, he asked about it. Things like he almost has no
memory.
Adam Curry: He has no memory of his things his father said to
him, and then he has no memory of it because it because he's
taking ketamine.
John C Dvorak: It's like the Joe Biden at dinner, his dad's
stories, what it is, all of a sudden, all these guys tell what
their father said, I'm gonna start doing that in the podcast.
Adam Curry: No, you know, I don't think you've ever talked
about your dad.
John C Dvorak: No, I never said he didn't. You know, I can't
think of anything. He told me that it would be pertinent to
the show or anything else for that matter. Wow. Hey, get up.
Get up. It's late. You gotta go to school. I remember my dad
telling me to get up. Or the famous the dad putting the right
way to get kids up a wet cold wash cloth on the face. That'll
get you up. Wow, no one. No, that's child abuse.
Adam Curry: Can I write your book? Can I embed with you and
write your book John has done I went
John C Dvorak: that editor
Unknown: you know, for better or for worse. Elan Musk is
incredibly influential and maybe influential isn't even in the
word incredibly powerful. Some people say is more powerful than
any government, including the US government.
John C Dvorak: What was the point of dropping that little
gem in there? It's bull crap.
Adam Curry: She wants a date with him.
Unknown: We've seen in Ukraine with the flick of a switch. He
can turn off the satellite communication in effect a war
Adam Curry: not exactly what happened to them.
John C Dvorak: That is a lie.
Adam Curry: Well, she only read the you know, the New York Times
The
Unknown: only reason SpaceX is the only way US astronauts get
to space anymore. He's transforming the electric
John C Dvorak: fly. That's a blatant lie.
Adam Curry: They're built you know, I think you've noticed
that the media the M five M is building a profile of musk part
of it is to promote this book. Obviously, part of it is because
they they are corny for billionaires. There's something
about money that attracts a person like Savannah Guthrie, a
tech billionaire. You know it's attractive to her. You can hear
it in everything she's saying she's she's JD for him. It's
part of that. But I think it's also building up to something.
There's something up and they're building up to it. His chargers
Unknown: have a lot to do with whether or not we make this
transition to.
Adam Curry: There you go. That may be it, John, that may be the
reason why the change? Well, no the charges that may be the
planted story for Granholm from June that all of a sudden No,
the not enough.
Unknown: Yeah. Could be Yes anymore. He's transforming the
electric car industry. His chargers have a lot to do with
whether or not we make this transition to electric energy.
And now on the eve of a presidential election,
controlling Twitter a major rhetoric and misinformation.
That's what
John C Dvorak: it is. So it's information on Twitter. Yeah,
because he controls it
Unknown: knowing what you know about him. Are you comfortable
that this singular man has that kind of influence over our world
Adam Curry: this is this is because Kara Swisher who used to
love Elon hates him so much. She reruns old interviews during
Labor Day. Just show me that this this is the old Elon, this
is what he used to be like. Now he's just the horrible person.
John C Dvorak: Jacqueline Hyde has a hatred toward Elon by the
press,
Adam Curry: in particular, all because of Twitter.
John C Dvorak: And he hasn't done anything at Twitter except
fire a bunch of, you know, middle managers. He hasn't
changed anything over there when I don't see my numbers changing
any which way. I see a lot of other people that are more left
less on the right. They don't see anything changing. And I ran
into a number of threads the other day that were so left
leaning. And in fact it was like the American socialist Democrats
have so many people on there that they're loading up with
anti American memes and everything in between. It's like
I this is this is unfounded, this hatred.
Adam Curry: You know, one of our producers of lawyer in Texas
sent me the Fifth Circuit opinion about how the Biden
administration coerced and threatened social media, which
is exactly what the Twitter files were about. Not that not
that this is going to be resolved anytime. But he did
highlight a few things for me, which I think are
John C Dvorak: this is from the fifth district Missouri case
you're talking about? Yeah. So
Adam Curry: this is the Fifth Circuit, the Louisiana, Missouri
versus Biden,
John C Dvorak: I think is the name of the case.
Adam Curry: The fifth circuit on Friday, largely upheld in
Louisiana federal judge's order blocking White House staffers
and some federal agencies from working with social media
companies to combat disinformation holding that some
federal officials likely quote coerce social media platforms
into censoring certain content in violation of the First
Amendment. Specifically, it said the White House, the White
House, working with the Office of the Surgeon General, coerce
the platform's to make their moderation decisions by way of
intimidating messages and threats of adverse consequences.
The White House and Surgeon General also significantly
encouraged the platform's decisions by commandeering their
decision making process, the FBI and CDC appear to have engaged
in similar conduct. We do not take our decision lightly. But
the US Supreme Court has rarely been faced with a coordinated
campaign of this magnitude orchestrated by a federal
official that federal officials that jeopardized a functional
aspect of American life. Therefore, the district court
was correct in its assessment, but more importantly, officials
expressed and implicitly threatened to retaliate if the
companies didn't take action. And that alone should be enough
to find coercion. They made Express threats, inflammatory
accusations, such as saying the platform's were poisoning the
public and killing people. This
John C Dvorak: we know the poisoning part's true.
Adam Curry: You're right. The judge signed off on the
injunction, a rare and lengthy order issued on the Fourth of
July Federal holiday in particular, the judge said the
federal government's attempt to suppress alleged disinformation,
particularly about the pandemic and here it is, arguably
involves the most massive attack on free speech in United States
history. This, you know, this will go to Supreme Court or get
kicked back it'll go on for years.
John C Dvorak: I don't ever make it in.
Adam Curry: It's just, it's just good to hear. You know,
obviously, this is not something that Savannah Guthrie will
discuss. No, no, but it's your but you know, it's like
disinformation. They don't have the back door anymore. They're
no longer being promoted being boosted on the platform. They
all left in a huff and I'm going to Matt dime and then I'm acid
on they couldn't to quote tweet me suck and they went to bed.
But what's, what's the other thing? Blue? Blue Blue? Blue
Bird blue. Command what's out of the thing called the new
Twitter? Drupal X? No, no, that's the other Dorsey thing.
Yeah, blue sky. I'm going to Blue Sky have you? Did I send
you an invite to blue sky? You've got it.
John C Dvorak: No, you didn't. I feel I feel slighted. It's the
trans mouse's
Adam Curry: social network. It's amazing God I can imagine
amazing so and the threads I'm going to be on threads This is
the place to be it's so much better than x. So social media
is broken
John C Dvorak: and there's all blue sky blue sky Yeah, I
thought I thought that we went to going to gab or whatever
happened to gab
Adam Curry: Hello 2010
John C Dvorak: was the other one there was another one it was
another one besides gab that was a beginner get her get her get
her
Adam Curry: get her and what else was there get
John C Dvorak: her as a couple other ones CompuServe
Adam Curry: prodigy Orkut? Yeah,
Unknown: they miss information. No parlor
Adam Curry: that's the one parlor bar. But I call it true
social it's this is the thing is broken. The she's the M five M
presstitutes know that ultimately social media is
broken. Elon is he doesn't care he's still notes community notes
and suppressing and you know yaka Reno his CEO is like you
can have freedom of speech but not freedom of reach. Yeah, it's
another word for shadow banning Okay, we got it. And I get I get
no traction. My tweet if someone doesn't retweet one of my tweets
it goes nowhere with my my 90,000 non blue check followers
so that's just what it is
John C Dvorak: this whole thing there's nothing has changed it's
still a repeat same piece of crap that it always was. But
Adam Curry: they don't have their people in the Yeah, they
don't have their people getting interested left and right and
trust and safety team and
John C Dvorak: I don't even want to get into it. Well, then then
let's just
Adam Curry: continue with subpoena playing
Unknown: here source of information, rhetoric and
potentially misinformation, knowing what you know about him.
Are you comfortable that this singular man has that kind of
influence over our world?
Are you comfortable or overall?
I think it's not great that he has so much power and you take
Starlink episode in Ukraine, where he had actually geo fenced
off the Crimea, so they couldn't do it. He had done it before
that night. And now he's creating Star Shield and selling
it to the US military because he talked to us government
officials he realizes why am I in the middle of this war it
should be something government officials do so he's sold star
link to the US government so that the government can control
how it's done.
Adam Curry: Exactly. He's a government shill that's it's
always the same
John C Dvorak: money is from government is the government
somehow that he's made his Tesla money by banking on the on the
financing and the kickbacks with a call when you buy a car you
get a bribe credit for buying electric yes tax
Adam Curry: credit. Yes.
John C Dvorak: Rebates one thing after another so rebate, the
rebate so rebate government money is government money when
he has solar city it was government money. Yes. It's they
could barely make that work. He almost went broke with Solar
City had to fold it into Tesla.
Adam Curry: Yeah, but you know, SpaceX is it's all government
money, all government money. And I was going, you know, we should
probably move right into this because Elon was a part of the
well, the Titans
Unknown: Elon Musk Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg are together
today in one room to discuss the future of artificial
intelligence. Both the dangers and the benefits. CBS Jolene
Kent reports. Lawmakers are struggling to keep up with the
technology.
Adam Curry: Oh, because it's a series of tubes That's
complicated.
Unknown: Today, a rare show of force by tech tycoons on Capitol
Hill, tackling the growing threat of artificial
intelligence to American jobs, safety and according to Elon
Musk, very existence.
This meeting breakout on history has been very important for the
future of civilization.
You can ask Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates and other top CEOs
and that behind closed doors with a bipartisan group of
senators facing the reality that if no action is taken, AI is
expected to eliminate or disrupt 300 million jobs worldwide. Musk
the richest man in the world says he told senators he's in
favor of having a specific regulator for AI to work
for us to have a referee I think the call sequences of AI going
wrong are severe. So we have to be proactive rather than
reactive,
sufficiently ready to regulate
the sequence of events will not be jumping in at the deep end
and and making rules.
Another top priority today is managing AI rapid development.
Can Americans trust open AI to make AI safe?
I think trust but verify. I think it's really important that
the government does put a sensible policy in
Adam Curry: place, trust but verify along
Unknown: with that safety. Senators told me another major
focus was the case against China. They want us tech
companies to set the global standards before China does. But
lawmakers also want the tech companies to develop their AI
responsibly.
Adam Curry: I'm telling you that Elon Musk is going to build
something he's going to sell it to the government that'll be the
regulator or be the approved AI or it's, this is all in it's all
bull bull bull.
John C Dvorak: Well, a couple of things. One, why I have three
clips on this, this tech meeting on a I these are from a New Tang
Dynasty. So there's probably more objective. But the thing
is, why was every quote from Elon Musk. And the reason I
asked that is because everybody was there. It wasn't the way
they like to say it. It was always gates, Musk and
Zuckerberg
Adam Curry: can answer that question. No, we play a little
bit of this TRT clip and it tells you why
Unknown: America's technology Titans was summoned to a forum
with US lawmakers in Washington to discuss how to make AI safe.
At the meeting from which the media were excluded, the
participants reached there
Adam Curry: was an it was a no media meeting. So the mosque was
the only one who who talked to the press. All the other guys
were way too important. That's why
John C Dvorak: well, I'm back to the thesis because Shar was
there.
Adam Curry: Gates.
John C Dvorak: Well didn't know they already they said they made
a point of saying Zuckerberg gates and musk but everybody was
there. There was that day Google guy was there. The head of Apple
was there. Everybody was there. And any one of them could have
been gone outside and talk to the press. But they just glom on
to Musk Musk is like the guy and I think ism and musk throws
himself into it. I think he seeks it. He reminds me of Adam
Osborne during the heyday of Osborne computers take us back.
Osborne once said to his staff that if anyone from the media
calls me I'm taking the call right stop everything he was so
into being in front and the front guys got rushed in front
of the rush out there to be interviewed as this is when Musk
is the Musk is doing this himself.
Adam Curry: Yes, yes. He started the whole the whole anger thing
it came from him he's the Genesis when he got kicked out
of his own organization open a eyes like this is dangerous when
you don't have Congress it was we gotta have rules. You gotta
have a referee. We have to trust but verify.
John C Dvorak: Musk is wagging the dog. So let's let's play
tech meeting on AI one. This is a little more elaborate
Unknown: and unprecedented meeting on Capitol Hill today,
as tech tycoons like Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg huddle with
senators huddled entities. Iris Tao joins us live from
Washington, DC. Good evening, Iris. What lawmakers tell us
about this closed door meeting
Good evening to you. So today's meeting lasted a whole day
behind closed doors. And senators, including leading
senators like Senator Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, and came
out to talk to us right after it ended, saying that he talked
about variety of issues, including how to increase
transparency in the AI industry and how to mitigate risk
associated with some AI techniques such as deep fake and
what's known as watermarking. And how such techniques could be
used to influence things like elections.
Adam Curry: This is why Elon is talking because Elon runs
elections Don't you know that he's been the most important and
most powerful man in the world.
John C Dvorak: He just cut it off at that spot because she's
just throwing terms out there. And whatever Schumer Schumer
doesn't none of these congressmen have a clue. They
don't know what an algorithm is that you barely can turn on a
computer or cemetery,
Adam Curry: if I may, when it comes to technology reporting,
technology reporting. The day you walked out of the twit
studio for the last time.
John C Dvorak: There's some truth to that. Yeah. So so she
says watermark Getting watermarking or watermarking.
That's going to influence selection. Yes, that's right.
Adam Curry: Wait, that would be quantum watermarks. Oh, yeah.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, with a quantum dot. Right. And that way
you can keep track of the ballots
Adam Curry: from space.
Unknown: Oh, here we go. And Schumer also told us that today
the main theme is really how to, through taking bipartisan
actions on regulating AI how to ensure that American public can
enjoy the benefits with associated with AI but also
risks associated with this fast evolving technology. The
Adam Curry: benefits Oh, I can create a Drake song.
Unknown: Of course, Today's meeting was so significant
because it really drew together all the biggest names in this
industry, including Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, as well as Bill
Gates. And today Elon Musk in particular, told the public that
Today's meeting was historic. He also warned about dangers with
of, of AI, watch.
The consequences of AI going wrong are severe. So we have to
be proactive rather than reactive. But that there's some
chance that is above zero, the AI will feel I think it's low.
But at this chance,
Adam Curry: Ah, okay. It's so bad. And you know, we should
start our own mental health app. Because the the ladies and some
gentlemen of Hill Country Maga country are so spun up over the
idea that AI is already today. Built your man to your mask
bumping like crazy, is
John C Dvorak: basically bumped at this time. Okay, I'm gonna
tell you what happens. Exactly. So she can keep bringing it up
Adam Curry: because we it sounds like this during the whole show.
John C Dvorak: No. Yes. And so I put my coffee cup down. And then
when I read withdrew my arm, I have this this long thing and I
banged into the whole structure of the microphone.
Adam Curry: Okay, then you're, you're forgiven. So the ladies
and gentlemen of Magha nation are so terrified of AI, they
have been spun up to actually believe that AI they're already
AI twins of each individual in the world. And these are your
Yeah, and there's even a documentary that one come from
there's some documentary coming out that I have to say, I think
it's related to Laura Logan. She's very good at that spinning
people up. She's also a good journalist. But the whole idea
John C Dvorak: is I like the idea of AI twins AI twins. And
they already exist again to do this show.
Adam Curry: That that's the whole that's it and then
eventually will just be their battery. You know that that's
how it all ends is like, you know, there'll be you'll have a
computer's going to take over and you hear Musk Well, there's
a better than zero chance that AI will destroy the world. Come
on. Come on musket where
John C Dvorak: it Yeah, lay didn't know how that works.
Adam Curry: AI is more powerful than climate change. Okay,
John C Dvorak: that's the question to ask him. That's what
these people should do when they got him because he's out there
asking answering questions. You think that we're gonna get
killed by climate change? Or AI first?
Adam Curry: Yeah, who's gonna win? Who's the first?
John C Dvorak: Who's gonna be the who's gonna? Who's gonna
kill us the most? So several Chinese
Adam Curry: want to get the world the Chinese clearly
because, you know, there's that whole element. I think there's
there's an element the other guys are coming in saying, Well,
I you know, China, China, China, China, China, China. Yeah, give
us some money.
Unknown: So several senators told us that they really
appreciate this rare opportunity to directly listen to these
leaders of the AI industry can learn more about this. But also
there are some critics of today's meeting, including
Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren, who told me that she did
not understand why today's meeting was, was held behind
closed doors. But still senators, including Chuck
Schumer told me that they think today's meeting was very
productive, and that it could help the US in this competition
with China Watch.
And the fact that we can bring everybody together and fund with
REG legislation that would move things forward on both sides
will help us significantly there's not a world in which
China like the government of China is
trying very hard. But the leadership in AI is in the
United States of America.
Adam Curry: I couldn't understand anything at the end
there. What was that what
John C Dvorak: I had, that's where I cut it off and kept
going. Yeah, a couple of things. Warren is right. Why was this a
private closed door meeting?
Adam Curry: Because it was they were divvying something up.
John C Dvorak: That's exactly right. There's some scam going
on. So a money making scam and they didn't want the public to
know about it. This wasn't about AI as much as it was. Exactly
what you said divvying up something.
Adam Curry: Yep. Let me there's no
John C Dvorak: reason for this to be a closed hearing. It's not
public. It's not national security. There's nothing about
this that says it should be a closed hearing Elizabeth Warren
nailed it.
Adam Curry: Let's listen to this TRT report that may find a
couple more interesting little tidbits in it.
Unknown: America's technology Titans was summoned to a forum
with US lawmakers in Washington to discuss how to make AI safe
Adam Curry: we need something like that technology Titans
John C Dvorak: how to make it profitable technology Titans,
Adam Curry: we need like podcast plebs technology, Titans.
John C Dvorak: Podcast Titans. What? Podcast Titans
Adam Curry: now it has to be something with the P O the
alliteration. That's why I said podcast plebs, hutches, podcast
buzzers
Unknown: beating from which the media were excluded. The
participants reached a unanimous agreement that the development
of artificial intelligence must be regulated.
I asked everyone in the room is does his government needed to
play a role in regulating AI and every single person? raise their
hands?
Adam Curry: This is very interesting what Schumer says.
He says, I asked everyone in the room this government needed and
everyone's hand was raised. Does that mean they will be the day
but does it mean they all said yes. Or do they just raise their
hands? He didn't say they all agreed. He says that when
they're
John C Dvorak: trying to do a judge came to mind is there I'm
listening to that clip. They want government regulation.
Yeah, of course they do. So they can Yeah, tick tock. This is
about somehow,
Unknown: is does. The government needed to play a role in
regulating AI and every single person raised their hands, even
though they had diverse views.
Adam Curry: So they so they weren't all in agreement, but
they all raise their hands. Thanks, Charlie. So that
Unknown: gives us a message here that we have to try to,
John C Dvorak: yeah, that you're foolish, as the process may be.
Unknown: Regulations are on the Texas Dick Durbin table. And I
believe they are reality in this field. It's a brand new field,
and I think it needs some guidance.
Elon Musk described the meeting as historic and important for
the future of civilization. Now,
the reason that I've been such an advocate
Adam Curry: for this podcast is in fact, important for the
future of civilization, not just AI, but this podcast,
Unknown: and important for the future of civilization. Now,
the reason that I've been such an advocate for AI safety in
advance of sort of anything terrible happening is that I
think the consequences of AI going wrong are severe. So we
have to be active rather than reactive.
The politicians now have to decide what regulation will mean
in practice. But it's all very well, lawmakers here agreeing
that AI needs to be regulated. The problem is that other
countries, most notably China, are likely to fall into step
with decisions made by the US Congress. And there are fears
that that could mean us tech companies losing their
competitive advantage without the world being made any safer.
Adam Curry: So this is so I think that they threw in this
China thing, because obviously, China's going to get state
money, government money, and they're like, ah, you know,
we'll call it regulation. But I, you know, we need we need money.
We need lots of money, because it's very expensive. These, you
know, we got to buy all these chips from Nvidia and we need
money, we need money and China, China, China, China, you don't
want to be buying China Do you know and he said, Come to the
secret meeting. We're all going to tell you how much you're
gonna get. And we'll call it regulation. And here's my
question to you. If if AI is going to if there's a larger
than zero chance that AI will destroy the world, if this field
is so new is so dangerous, that we need referees, we need
government agencies we need we need we need regulation. They
can't even define it, but continue. Explain to me why this
is okay. CNBC,
Unknown: the IRS has used its billions and new congressional
funding in an interesting way. They have a battery of new AI
tools, and they are launching a new crackdown on the wealthiest
tax invader invaders.
Adam Curry: Okay, so what you're saying is AI is very, very
dangerous unleashed on the American people. Robert Frank
Unknown: is here to discuss those details. Yeah, so the
new IRS commissioner, his goal here was first let's use all
this money to help the service part of our business help people
who you know want help paying their taxes understanding what
they need to do. Now we're at phase two, which is go after the
wealthy tax cheats and what they're doing is putting a lot
of that money. Number one to enforcers they're gonna hire 10
have 1000s of auditors and enforces but number two is
develop AI and machine learning to figure out what patterns they
can find in tax returns, especially for these large
partnerships that can help them identify where people are hiding
their income. And that's where an agency not known for its
technological prowess is going to really make a step change.
And I think this is a part where AI really can do some good
because AI is great at these massive data questions, and huge
computing power and applying that to finding the areas where
humans didn't really see the patterns before but AI can't
we just wrapped there that said it was going to target 1500
millionaires with tax,
I think it was tax debt of 250.
That's one of the parts of this is they're they're going after
1600 People who have a million or more in income, who have
recognized tax debt. In other words, we known known, known and
acknowledged by the taxpayer that they owe at least
$250,000 1000 Excuse $250,000. And this could raise hundreds of
millions of dollars if they return all that, you know, you
do the math on, can they get away with this already? The IRS
just didn't have the staff to go after them legally and get this
money back?
Adam Curry: I think I think they I think someone misreported I
think they meant 250 million, but I think the truth came out
here, no, no, you have more than 250,000 in tax debt, which I
think a lot of people have that. More than 1000.
John C Dvorak: Well, with the tax rate being 40%, about 40%,
with the Biden tax rate, to under 50,000. You'd have that
would be five deaths. That's less than a million in income.
Adam Curry: Yeah. I think I think the truth was coming out,
you know, let's
John C Dvorak: say 750,000 in income that people make, they're
gonna go after tax liability around that. And so that's,
Adam Curry: they're going after the rich people. They're going
after small business small business. Yes.
John C Dvorak: That's exactly what got to get rid of. That's
what the whole idea is,
Adam Curry: you know, AI we need regulation is going to do it. We
need regulation but unleashed this. This monster on the
American people. You can't have it both ways. Meanwhile, in San
Francisco, the people are very happy with AI. This is a San
Francisco civilian. Taking a pic ax to a cruise taxi. smashing
everything on
John C Dvorak: this car. Is the taxi honking at it. Yeah, that's
the taxi is honking
Adam Curry: and smashing the windshield, smashing the
spinning things on top, the FLIR whatever it is.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, LIDAR. LIDAR smashing
Adam Curry: the thing to bid. That's that's the proper
reaction to this.
John C Dvorak: I think he should have stolen a lidar but okay,
but that is the proper response to this. And he will get caught
because it's San Francisco if he gets caught don't just let him
go. Go smash another one.
Adam Curry: But I mean, this this is so stop with the ball.
They've got digital twins. No, they're coming after you. With
the coming after you for taxes. You tax invader. That's what she
said. Checks. He called it a tax invader at the beginning. Dummy,
dummy. Yeah, so I don't know. None of it sounds happy days to
me.
John C Dvorak: Alright, well, we got some funnier stuff.
Adam Curry: We do. We got funnier stuff.
John C Dvorak: First of all, let's start with the Dick
Cheney. Good anti Trump Biden commercial.
Adam Curry: I think this is old. I'm just gonna have to say it
right off the bat. I think this is
John C Dvorak: I think it's old too. I just found it though. We
played it and you seen it before? We played it.
Adam Curry: Yeah, this Yeah. This goes back to let me let me
see. Okay, then
John C Dvorak: let's scrap that scrap it because I don't want to
play anything old because that goes back to when
Adam Curry: his daughter was on the J six commission. That's
when that came out.
John C Dvorak: So get rid of it.
Adam Curry: Go straight to Biden go straight to the go straight
to the punch line.
John C Dvorak: I only have one Biden clip. I want to save it
now. Okay.
Adam Curry: All right. All right.
John C Dvorak: Let's go to some story that I think is a little
more pertinent something that's kind of not being played up is
definitely Savannah Guthrie is not talking about it. The
situation of the libraries in Canada,
Adam Curry: though this is new to me the libraries in Canada
what's happening? Check it out.
Unknown: Some school libraries just outside Toronto have half
empty shelves 1000s of books, their status in limbo that could
be headed to the landfill. It's all part of a weeding out
process. The Peel District School Board is going through
and Angelina King reports this morning on how the process has
led to inconsistency and concern from students and parents.
Harry Potter The Very Hungry Caterpillar The Diary of Anne
Frank, those are all some of the books we've been told to have
been removed from some school libraries as part of this
weeding process, of course all very different books, which
speaks to the confusion and inconsistency parents and
students are telling us that they're concerned about. So
first, I'll give you just a little bit of background on how
all of this is supposed to work. Like most libraries in Canada,
in Canada, the school libraries within the Peel District School
Board are to weed out books that are damaged, outdated or
irrelevant. But at Peel schools, there's a little bit more to it.
Librarians and others have to read the books and ensure that
they are inclusive and also ensure that they don't
reinforced racist content, or include stereotypes if they do
they have to go.
Adam Curry: Oh, okay.
John C Dvorak: Oh, Mark Twain. Goodbye.
Adam Curry: Yeah. All right. Hello To Kill a Mockingbird. All
right. So
John C Dvorak: they're taken. And it turns out, they're taken
everything printed, or published before 2008. out it goes,
Adam Curry: first thing to go. 1984. Brave New World get it
out. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: those books gone. Out of here. Yeah, so the books
now, and this is a big deal. And the Canadians are a little bent
out of shape about it. But they haven't done anything about it.
Yeah, the Skoda part two.
Unknown: Now I spoke with some who are concerned about how all
of that is being handled, including some students as well
as a group that's against the process.
I'm not comfortable giving anyone the power to be the
arbiter on a huge basis of what's right and wrong, from a
library's perspective about the totality
of ideas that are available. And someone who's of Japanese
descent, I think that people's authors who wrote about Japanese
internment camps are going to be erased and the entire events
that went on historically for Japanese Canadians are going to
be removed. And to me, that worries me a lot.
So staff are supposed to focus on books that were published in
2008 or prior, but that seems to have led to some confusion and
half empty shelves at some schools like the one you're
looking at in Mississauga. Now, we've been told that it appears
some schools have simply removed nearly all of the books in the
library published in 2008. Or prior
Adam Curry: what was 2008? What was it about
John C Dvorak: 2000 was trying to find trying to find a reason
for the 2008 cut off point.
Adam Curry: I mean, Obama. Obama in America, but that that
doesn't make any sense. What happens? So
John C Dvorak: there's got to be some rationale. Maybe some
Canadian out there listening would tell us what why to have
all the years. Why 2008,
Unknown: which people have a big concern about there's also seems
to be confusion about where these books are supposed to go.
Many have actually wound up in the landfill, because I believe
that's what they were supposed to do with the school board
about that. It says that staff have been told to follow
regional recycling guidelines. I spoke with the school board. He
believes this process rolled out incorrectly. He says trustees
now have implemented changes to ensure transparency and
accountability. So now staff are supposed to track which books
are removed NY
Adam Curry: da, this is great. I mean, this mirrors the United
States, of course, but let's let's get any set up to the
third clip in this series.
John C Dvorak: Know this go for it.
Unknown: We want to make sure that as we move forward as a
board, not only that all students are feeling included,
we want to make sure that the books are any materials that are
in the school and in our library are relevant to the teaching.
We asked the board several questions like how many books
are expected to be removed? How many are in landfills? And how
much it'll cost to replace them. But the board didn't answer
those questions, instead saying it's working to ensure the books
are culturally responsive, inclusive and diverse.
Adam Curry: Oh, my goodness. Is that the 2008? Is that when
white privilege was published? I mean, there's got to be some
reason people.
John C Dvorak: Everything before 2008 is no good. Well, I can
tell you is Unbeliev. This story, by the way is outrageous.
And the Canadians going Oh, well. I don't know what to do
about it. It's out of control. This is ridiculous. You can't do
what they're doing. And it's almost like just the opposite of
what they're trying to do in Florida, which is getting
profane books out of the school library. Not not Mark Twain.
Adam Curry: Ah, welcome to
Unknown: now it's time for our Trojan smiles
Adam Curry: gender, self destruct initiated. It's it's
it's very similar actually. You know, the it's just the reverse
World Canada is throwing stuff out they deem no good. And in
the United States, they just put stuff in the door. This is good
for kids. We need to have you oh yeah, this is good for kids. And
boy, was there an interesting hearing up on Capitol Hill
Unknown: over banning books got contentious on Capitol Hill
yesterday.
To all the parents out there who believe there's a bunch of stuff
in our schools being pushed on your children that go over the
line. You're absolutely right. Thanks libertarian
regimes banned books, not democracies.
Illinois Secretary of State testified before a Senate
committee to promote an Illinois law that prevents banning books
Dr. Libraries have become targets by a movement that
disingenuously claims to pursue freedom.
Some Republican led states have restricted certain books where
kids have access to them. Most of the books include stories
about racism, sexuality, or gender identity, Florida removed
nearly 400 titles last year, the hearing turned racy at one point
as Louisiana Senator John Kennedy read explicit scenes
from two of the banned books,
the words you spoke are disturbing, especially coming
out of your mouth. It's very disturbing. We are advocating
for parents, random parents not to have the ability under the
guise of keeping kids safe. To try and challenge the world view
of every single manner on these issues. You're getting
a conceptual game, I'm not good at conceptual
Democrats and Republicans did agree some books are
inappropriate for children, but they were unable to agree on who
has the responsibility to censor the books, parents or the state,
they should be removing these Shame on them if they don't, and
Shame on those who want to groom children sexually. No one
is advocating for sexually explicit content to be available
in an elementary school library. But no parents should have the
right to tell another parents child what they can and cannot
read in school or at home.
Adam Curry: Okay, so just the fact that we're talking about
books and libraries means we are living in a dystopian world, no
matter what side you're on. It's all dystopian, it's all you
crazy. What what
John C Dvorak: I thought you would I didn't get it. I thought
you'd clip it for sure. Which was Kennedy's reading from the
books.
Adam Curry: I have both of those clips, and I'm not going to play
them. I'm leaving. I'm leaving them in the show notes. Because
I know you it's actually too much. It's too much and it
John C Dvorak: is it is too much. But Kennedy reads from the
books are discussed.
Adam Curry: I have more clips here. Let me play because
there's the core question is when it comes to school
libraries, there's a difference that just saying libraries.
They're bad they're burning books. It's horrible. The Nazis
Wow, that really
John C Dvorak: take it for granted as is the example of
where this is really headed. But
Adam Curry: I am in agreement with you but they have this
representative of the LGBTQ plus i Two Spirit librarians mix
named mix, Cameron.
John C Dvorak: Now Oh, another mix, you know, mixes a popular
name amongst a
Adam Curry: very popular name. And we'll get to mix in a
moment. And I'm skipping the quotes from all boys aren't blue
and the gender queer books, I put the links, the clips are in
the show notes. You can listen to it. It's it's all meant for
shock value and none of its good. But this there was some
actual stuff that was discussed that is worth listening to.
Unknown: Mr. Secretary. What are you asking us to do? There you
go. Are you suggesting that only librarians should decide whether
the two books that I just referenced should be available
to kids? Is that what you're saying? No. Okay, tell me what
you're saying.
John C Dvorak: First of all,
Unknown: there's this Don't give me a speech. Tell me what you're
asking me to do.
With all due respect, Senator and the words you spoke are
disturbing, especially coming out of your mouth is very
disturbing. But I would I would also tell you that
Adam Curry: why is it especially coming out of your mouth, Mr.
Mr. Kennedy? Why is it especially disturbing coming out
of his mouth?
John C Dvorak: That's a good catch.
Adam Curry: I don't understand why especially.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Why especially
Adam Curry: at blow job. I mean, why especially and we're
Unknown: not advocating for kids to report to Senator Booker's.
Why are you advocating for we are advocating for parents,
random parents not to have the ability under the guise of
keeping kids safe,
Adam Curry: random parents to try and challenge what kind of
parent is a random parent? What is this random parents world
Unknown: view of every single manner on these issues? You're
getting a conceptual game? I'm not going to consider changing
war. Yes, you are. Because you I want to know what you're
recommending. It sounds to me like some of you are saying the
librarians should decide who gets to see that book.
I'm saying when you're making one individual parents are
allowed to make a decision of what where that line is and And
To Kill a Mockingbird, which involves a rape scene should
that book be pulled from our libraries? I think it becomes a
slip
up I think you ought to think about it a little bit more
before you come here I've thought you're going to propose
something you ought to be able in 30 seconds to be able to
explain when they're asking us to do
Adam Curry: so needless to say Alexei had nothing so now we go
to mix mix well mix had a bow tie and
John C Dvorak: to his mix of what what, what was the apparent
agender? If you were to guess
Adam Curry: well mix look like a dude with a dude hair and a bow
tie. And a pink jacket, like salmon color, really? And some
kind of two spirits out of style. And yeah, that was
definitely style.
Unknown: Let me skip me for a second Mr. Cameron, tell me what
you're you're proposing.
It's pronounced next mix?
How would you like me to refer to you,
Senator, your definition of sexual is synonymous with LGBTQ
identity
live? I'm asking you that I'm asking you to tell me you read
those two excerpts.
Genderqueer.
That? Are you asking that only librarians and not parents have
any say? And whether minors can read those books? Is that what
you're saying? gender queer
has never been in my school library. So it's never been
bashed proposal
was should it be up just to the librarian? Or Should parents
have a say
there should be facilitation of collaboration between students,
parents? Parents should be working with students and
educators to be making decisions because students
whose a five year old cannot leave the librarian or do you
take a vote? Or who takes the vote?
Book review committees in the community and my school
district,
you want to committee to our committees? Okay. Well, I'm
asking you, How do we decide whether the two books that I
just referenced should be available in the library? What
would you if you were, if you were running thanks? What would
you do?
Our boys aren't blue, the scene you mentioned is about sexual
abuse
know what to do in terms of making the books available?
Would you say anybody can see them? Or they have to be in a
special session?
Students who do not read books, like all boys are in blue cannot
learn what is understand they cannot learn stem, but they want
to answer my question. You come here and you say, censorship is
bad. And of course, it's bad. But the honest responses, okay,
you heard the books we're talking about? Okay, we're not
talking about Catcher in the Rye. So tell me what you want.
Who gets to decide and all I've heard is the librarians. And
parents have nothing to do with it. And if that's your response,
what planet did you just parachute in from? Parents?
Senator what country more appropriately? That's not China.
Adam Curry: Now Canada is Canada. That's where he's coming
from Canada. We'll wrap it up with this parents.
Unknown: Parents absolutely have a say, my parents were
immigrants came to this country. We'd never checked out books
without our parents seeing what what books we were reading, they
encouraged us
to understand this is good for your politics back home. It's
got nothing to do. Everything to do with came here to do you came
here with a problem. And I'm trying to understand the
solution and you don't have one,
we solve the solution, then we
tell us that we don't agree with you. You're on the wrong. We'll
be on the wrong side of history. We
solved the problem in Illinois. We fixed it, because we
well, there's others you could work on? Well, that's why I'm
out of the home.
Adam Curry: How about this government should have no say in
the matter? How about that? How about department of education
shouldn't be around even exist? This is all all is where we're
going not with taking it too far.
John C Dvorak: Good stuff.
Adam Curry: But I didn't know that it had spread to to Canada.
That's that's pretty
John C Dvorak: Canada's taking the complete opposite approach.
Yeah, but there let's get rid of
Adam Curry: everything. For 2008 2008. Before make
John C Dvorak: sure all the books that we have are
inclusive. Yeah. Yeah, that means there's gonna be nothing
in the library.
Adam Curry: There was an interesting case. A girl who
transitioned after two visits to her psychiatrist has
successfully sued her psychiatrists for professional
negligence. This is coming to an end now.
John C Dvorak: The well there's also this big suit against I
think it's Minnesota hospital. Yeah. sued yes by a girl who is
D transitioned out After they cut off her breasts, I don't
know if they sterilized her or not. Oh, more than that. But
there has to be some legal piece. The Legal Eagles in these
large organizations have to consider the possibility of
massive settlements. Because you can imagine what a jury is going
to do you get one of these cases before a jury and you got some
girl who's been disfigured, let's say, Yeah, specifically
and life ruined. Yeah, especially if she's been
sterilized, and go and has a sob story to tell about how she was
tucked into it and didn't like the idea, but they'd made her do
it anyway. And it costs all this money, that of settlement
amounts are going to be astronomical. Yeah.
astronomical. Yeah, these hospitals are right up against
it for for trying to pull this off. And there, they better
start backtracking as fast as they can, because there's
already there's this in the pipeline. And I just don't see
anything but some massive lawsuits against the hospitals,
the doctors, the psychiatrists, and everybody in between. And
they're not going to get past if it goes to a jury. There's no
jury you can possibly select as a normal jury that is not going
to side with it with the patient. There's not I can't
imagine that ever happening. Meanwhile, with
Adam Curry: the new schools, the school year is starting off in
the United States. Parents are beside themselves with a worry
and outrage that they have to send their children to school
without the allotted amount of ADHD medication they need to get
through the day. Yes, there is a drastic shortage of Adderall,
Vyvanse and other such such medications. Parents are sending
their kids is Vyvanse. Vyvanse is the same as Adderall only it
has a delayed action. So delayed release
John C Dvorak: kind of fancy Adderall.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Kind of like I don't know, what was the opioid
that had the fancy release? Yeah, you know what I'm talking
about time released time release. That's it. So why is
this why has this happened? Is it because of China? Nope. What
happened? Well, as it turns out, use of prescription stimulants
such as Adderall and Vyvanse, which can mitigate ADHD
symptoms. I'm reading from Bloomberg. Rose 46%. In the last
10 years partly driven by the pandemic era surge of here comes
telehealth prescribing among adults telehealth prescribing
among adults we we are a drugged up nation.
John C Dvorak: We love speed yes math
Adam Curry: speed. And the parents are sending their kids
to school with caffeine drinks to supplement the Adderall
because they don't have enough at what point do people wake up
and go you know you know maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe this
doesn't make sense we deserve it all I guess
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Well there's always been an
underground for this is just a move that above ground figure
the white wire the drug dealers making money on this stuff.
Adam Curry: We're talking we're talking seven year olds John
seven year old kid
John C Dvorak: doesn't like I said they weren't you? Yeah, no
one is much no one used to dress they're so clever. Seven year
old with some.
Adam Curry: No, of course you didn't. And it goes like this.
Oh, you know, little Johnny was just out of control. He was
really it was too much to handle. But now we've got him on
his meds. He's getting A's and B's. He's getting A's and B's.
He's so good at concerts. The kid is frying his brain is
burning out. burning out. I tell you burning out.
John C Dvorak: Well, the guy again bringing it back to Joe
Biden. Yeah, there we go. Talking about burning out. I
mean, they give him they juice him up. And he's gusta does
that's where I think there's a big speech coming, where they're
going to juice them up again and he's going to come off with you
know, instead of the mumbling fumbling Joe Biden is going to
be the yelling screaming Gotcha. You know, go nuts. Joe Biden. I
have I want I'd like people to start collecting these because I
have only 31 seconds of these. Biden jacked up super cut, but I
think we can make this I like to get about five minutes of them.
Unknown: Can you imagine looking at your child or changing
people's lives? We beat forever this year. Think about what
you'd think about. Take everything away from you without
unions or been on middle class. I'm sick of this stuff. Well,
I'm sick and tired are smart guys. I'm not more sure he was a
patriot. There are not a single thing we can not do. Not a
single thing. Thank you. Go get him.
Adam Curry: His brain has gotten his brain has gone, Jim. Yes.
Well, there was an interesting article in the Washington Post
by Uber leftist. Superman, which David Ignatius?
John C Dvorak: Yes, they have a clip discussing this. Oh, I
Adam Curry: have a couple two but happy to play yours first.
John C Dvorak: This is the media turning on Biden WaPo.
Unknown: And speaking of politicians age, a columnist for
the Washington Post is offering his thoughts and an op ed
columnist David Ignatius argue that President Biden is too old
to run again in 2024. Ignatius said he doesn't think Biden and
vice president Harris should run for reelection. He pointed to
voters concerns over Biden's age and Harris's low approval
ratings. Biden is currently 80 years old and would be 82. At
the beginning of a second term. The columnist called Biden's age
a big liability and said it's become the subject of dinner
table conversations across America this summer. As to
Harris, the columnist said she quote failed to gain traction in
the country or even within her own party. Ignatius touted what
he considers Biden's achievements, but said the Biden
withdrawing from the 2024 race would be a wise choice for the
country.
Adam Curry: Yes, Whopper Whopper Whopper Whopper WaPo. And David
Ignatius showed up on the morning Joe's with Mika and Joe
Scarborough and Mika. Well, she had the only question that
matters,
Unknown: who would be an alternative right now, who could
do that on day one? A legitimate one.
So I can't name you that person. The thing about the democratic
process is that it yields answers to questions like that
through this amazing phenomenon. I still believe in I believe
that that open discussion that nominating campaigns, produce
clarity produce candidates produce leaders. I couldn't
agree more that Biden has been a strong leader in foreign policy
and domestic policies I wrote about in the column, he has
passed some of the most significant domestic social
legislation in decades. foreign policy, one of the things that I
admire most about Biden is that he's gathered a team around him.
Adam Curry: This is important this because this is coming
straight from the Democratic insiders heat. Now listen
carefully, because I have another clip that goes with
this. He is saying, but you'll hear what
Unknown: he say a very solid people call it people teach
ugly, he is the leader of that team. But the team members
themselves are strong. I have no doubt that this team of sensible
strategic people in the Democratic Party who are driving
foreign policy forward and in a good way will continue to met no
matter who the temporary Democrats choose no matter who
on that score. I'm less concerned than you are. I think
it comes down to what we were talking about earlier. Is Joe
Biden, the person who can stop Donald Trump or somebody like
Trump, who gets the Republican nomination. That's what he's
got. He's got a look in the mirror searches so and make that
decision. And I wanted to raise that question. I'd like him to
think that through carefully, because I have my concerns.
Adam Curry: So that to me is an important thing that he said
there. The Democrats in America are looking for not for someone
to run the country because he's got a great team. He's got
Blinken. He's got Newland, he's got to celebrate
John C Dvorak: those two, you just named the two reasons that
that whole team should be ousted. Now, of course,
Adam Curry: but this these people are dumb, John, because
of diversity, equity inclusion are entitled An entire political
system has become dumb. We've hired dummies, so you're now
they're looking for someone who can beat Trump. They don't care.
As long as he can beat Trump, he or her. I think that Biden will
bow out. I think we won't even get the big speech. Unless it's
possible. We get the big speech and he just goes nuts. And he
says something like, go nuts and he says great. He says something
like I'm corrupt. You know, that's why I pray for that every
day. I pray
John C Dvorak: Yeah. To get these ideas.
Adam Curry: You said and he's a he's a Catholic boy, he may just
all of a sudden say I gotta confess, I'm corrupt. I took all
the money. My son's a drug addict. I'm corrupt what? And so
Camela would have to step in. For it for the time being.
That'd be great. First Black woman to be President of the
United States. It follows the Veep script to the tee to the
tee. And Pelosi was on pooper talking about Kamala, and she
said some just horrible things about her. But I think makes
clear that she's gonna step in, she'll be fine to step in.
Listen to
Unknown: this was enough to date that fake news
is the best running mate for this President.
He thinks so. And that's what matters. And by the way, she's
very politically astute. I don't think people give her enough
credit. She's course values based consistent with the
President's values in the rest. And people don't understand
she's politically astute. Why would she be vice president if
she were not, but when she was running for attorney general in
California, she had 6% in the polls 6%. And she politically
astutely made her case about why she would be good, did her
politics and became Attorney General.
Adam Curry: Okay. So I just want to reiterate what she said. She
said, She's politically astute. She when she was running for
Attorney General for the state of California, she had 6% and
then she whispered 6%, but she did her politics. Can you tell
me what those politics were at the time in California that she
was here? Yes. What did she do to go from I have no idea didn't
she sleep with Willie Brown
John C Dvorak: was she Disney would Willie Brown is very well
known as kind of like a de facto facto facto. She slept with
Willie Brown or did something with Willie Brown. That put a
smile on his face, let's say. And she got she just got pushed
into the job. I don't remember her even campaigning. I don't
remember a speech from her. I remember she was the DA in San
Francisco and she did a crappy job there. She was condemned for
some of the stuff she did. She was nuts about just throwing
every marijuana user in jail. And she had let a lot of bad
guys go. She was like an early warning of the of the chest see
a boo Dan that they had to recall. Get him out of there.
And that guy in down in Los Angeles, bad, bad. DBAs and
yeah, and then she ended up with the job. And the next thing you
know, she bounces into this job. She's She's definitely
Adam Curry: she's, she's politically astute. She's very
John C Dvorak: astute. Yeah, that's the word astute.
Adam Curry: And as we'll hear in the rest of this clip, she just
has to she doesn't matter if she's dumb as a rock. She didn't
have to say anything, just be a standing.
Unknown: And she politically astutely made her case about why
she would be good, did her politics and became the attorney
general. So people shouldn't underestimate what Kamala Harris
brings to the table. Do you think she is the best running
mate? She's the Vice President of the United States. When
people say to me, Well, why isn't she doing this or that? I
said, because she's the Vice President. That's the job
description.
Adam Curry: This is jobs. Don't do anything. Just stand there
and be ready when the old guy croaks, or leaves or whatever.
Unknown: You don't do that much. You know, you. You're a source
of strength, inspiration, intellectual resource, and the
rest and you and she I think she's represented a country very
well at home and abroad.
Adam Curry: So you don't have to do anything. That's the job.
That's the job. The job is be like Selena Gomez, be as stupid
as you want to be. Doesn't matter. The team around you will
take care of it. Joe's out. The question is who is good enough
to take on Donald Trump? I know only one.
John C Dvorak: But Gavin Newsom,
Adam Curry: Big Mike 2024, baby. Oh, please. Yep, it's common. I
can feel it in my water. Big Mike 2024. Big Mike
2020 four.com. Everybody if you want to. Want to sproutly
Somebody's got to domain Yeah, we move we did believe me. Who
else who else could take on Donald Trump? Yeah, Gavin
Newsom, maybe Nancy Pelosi.
John C Dvorak: Get Gavin Newsom. He's got he's got a baggage of
the state itself, which is a problem. But even though he's
good bullshitter and he's been promoted, he's promoted by the
right in the form of you know, Sean Hannity,
Adam Curry: let me tell you, it makes so much sense. It's all
coming together now. Just bear with me. So
John C Dvorak: Tom telling you who's going to who's going to
get it still unless I didn't steal I see a falter Kennedy.
Adam Curry: Let's get to that in a second. The way I would play
this is I would get Tucker on our team. The so to speak, and
I'd have him out Obama as gay with you know, either the real
Larry Sinclair or the fake leader Larry Sinclair doesn't
matter. After the story is out, and by the way, did you know the
Carlson's have quite a history of outing gay and transgender
people?
John C Dvorak: Tell me more.
Adam Curry: Did you know that it was Carlson's dad, Richard
Carlson, who outed the transsexual tennis player back
in the 70s. Remember,
John C Dvorak: but we can always remember the horse's name
Adam Curry: as transsexual tennis player,
John C Dvorak: that everyone knew that that was a transplant.
Renee Richards, Rene
Adam Curry: Richie. Yeah, Renee
John C Dvorak: Richards. Everyone knew that no, but
Adam Curry: it was here 19 From the wiki 1976 Richards gender
reassignment was outed by local TV anchor Richard Carlson, who
also wore a bowtie, the father of Tucker Carlson, subsequently,
the United States Tennis Association, the Women's Tennis
Association, and the United States open committee required
all female competitors to verify their sex with a bar body test
of their chromosomes. So the Carlson's have a history of
doing this. They're the go to guys.
John C Dvorak: Well, that's one example. Give me more insofar as
a history.
Adam Curry: That's That's history, though. Who cares?
John C Dvorak: I'm just one.
Adam Curry: Yeah, just those two, two, there's one was Renee
and two is Obama. And we have all this the whole i Listen, the
Democrat Party has primed there is no longer black V was black
people before we have Black Lives Matter petered out.
Everyone's stole the money, and we don't have the black. If
you've if you don't vote Democrat, you ain't black. So
that's no longer in play. You're trans. Everyone's trans. That's
the thing 20% of quote school kids say I'm trans you might as
well say I'm a Democrat, you wearing a mask. You're a
Democrat. It's all it's all tied in to bringing in Obama's gay
I'm sorry, you know, it's right. Ben showed Here's Mike. That is
an actual play I can see happening. It's that crazy in
the world amount
John C Dvorak: of time you spend on this thesis is ridiculous. I
Adam Curry: will just remind you, Donald Trump called it
early Pope nailed it. I have a history you can't refute my
choices.
John C Dvorak: Plenty of refutation. This one is so off
the wall. The problem is I get the sense even though I'm not
completely convinced, by the way that you're sincere.
Adam Curry: I'm totally sincere as an option. I personally would
enjoy Bobby The awful lot more. And it's just the it's all
rigged against him. There's no it's all it's all uphill battle
this and you know, the rigging the primary. How does he do it
is you can go third party.
John C Dvorak: That's not gonna work. party's not going to work.
That's not going
Adam Curry: to work. No one that no one is bringing him as an as
an option. How? How do you get from here to there? I mean, I
just gave you a viable path for Michelle. Michelle Obama. Okay.
viable path. Where's your red book?
John C Dvorak: It's in there.
Adam Curry: It's a viable patio with
John C Dvorak: big blue arrows pointing at it. Wow. Now,
Adam Curry: okay, so there's one. All right. There's a
possibility. We saw a New York Times article come out with all
of a sudden, we have one of the Secret Service guys who's now in
his 80s who was there on the day of JFK assassination. And, and
he comes out and he says, oh, no, no, no, no, I'm the magic
bullet. I found the magic bullet discrediting the entire report.
What was it called the commission the Warren
Commission? This crediting it should no no, no, it was it was
stuck in between the seat of the car and I put it on the gurney
and then it must have jumped over off that gurney and then on
to Kennedy's gurney. Have you? Do you read this? He has a book
coming out of course written by who knows? Yeah. Do you think
that this would have something to do with with with Bobby? Like
no, Bobby The K? Oh, somehow I don't know.
John C Dvorak: You know, like something is kind of alluded at
the moment. I want to see it shake out a little bit more. The
Bobby The K move.
Adam Curry: You there's no move. That's the problem. There's no
moves. I see no X think
John C Dvorak: analysis is being performed as we speak. What to
do next.
Adam Curry: Okay, I'm sorry. I think I have more in my Big Mike
theory than you have.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and Gavin Newsom will end up being the guy
and he'll lose.
Adam Curry: Well, that's, that would probably be the best for
America. I do think that we have a possible VP who has thrown her
hat into the ring. And that's the Grisham lady from New
Mexico. This whole thing that she did with the banning of
concealed carry and open carry firearms in, in New Mexico.
Yeah. Now of a VP bid.
John C Dvorak: I had the I had Grisham picked as the VP in the
last election before they came up with Camela. I think it's a
it's a good pick. But the problem was Grisham now is that
she's, she was kind of a perky. I wouldn't say necessarily cute,
but she had a lot of pizzazz back four years ago or two
years, it was only two years ago. Now she looks like she's
been. It looks like they've been drugging her. So she looks bad.
She's perfect.
Adam Curry: She's perfect. She's
John C Dvorak: got a bad look.
Adam Curry: I got a couple of clips here. That I think shows
she is this whole move was nothing about the safety of the
people of New Mexico
Unknown: governor Michelle Lujan Grisham last week declared a
public health emergency and announced a 30 day ban on
carrying firearms open or concealed in public areas in
Albuquerque and its County. The Democratic governors move is
facing push pushback from law enforcement officials and gun
rights groups. Bring us now for her first national televised
interview since issuing this order is the governor of New
Mexico, Michelle Lujan Grisham. Governor, thank you for your
time this morning. And let's get to exactly that. We just heard
from the sheriff he joins the Attorney General and others who
say they won't enforce it, it's unconstitutional. Why do it if
it can't be enforced?
Well, that's their opinion. And they have no bold actions. They
don't have any plans for reducing gun violence, every
single aspect in terms of preventing gun violence funds,
crime labs, more than 150 million for retention, bonuses
and recruitment of new police officers. I'm focused on one
thing, we have the third highest gun related injuries in the
country 90%, higher than the national average, we lost 143
Children between 2017 and 2021. It is unacceptable. And it calls
for immediate and swift and bold action and evidence bears out
over and over again, fewer guns on the streets makes everyone
safer. And I'm focused on everyone's constitutional
rights, not just those the NRA says I should be focused on
Yeah, it's not just the NRA. Here's one other concern from
the sheriff. Here's what he told my colleague, Kaitlin Collins
last night,
and a couple of months or a year down the road, were the ones
stuck in court. And we're the ones getting sued over all of
these infringement of rights and all these other court battles
when I could be focusing so much more on crime.
Adam Curry: When she says bold action, you know, gun crime, she
doesn't care about the people in Mexico, she cares about being
the VP whose job will be to take away America's guns.
Unknown: Has any law enforcement officer in Albuquerque or the
county actually enforced this yet?
Well, we haven't issued any civil penalties. But that
doesn't mean that we're not and that we don't have the ability
to do that. But that right back I get from every single, I want
to know this minute. But that doesn't mean that we aren't in
it doesn't mean that we don't have additional police presence.
And if not this bold action, making sure that you're going to
the grocery store, you're safe going to a baseball game, you're
safe walking on a hiking trail, there are individuals, including
young people where it's illegal today to have a handgun openly
carrying handguns. My question to law enforcement is where are
you? Where are you in that young 11 year old Froylan Vegas 17
rounds were fired into that gun 35,000 rounds are fired at least
annually in Albuquerque alone, you are not safe going to work
getting your prescription drugs or going into a public park. And
it wasn't just about a cooling off period. It's about making
sure that everyone is safer while we do boulder work. Oh,
both the drug epidemic and the gun violence epidemic. And it's
not for police to tell me what's constitutional or not. They
haven't supported one, not one, gun violence effort in the state
of New Mexico. Police domestic violence protections, universal
background checks. And I know you want to ask me a question.
So I'll take a breath. But no, you know, these are NRA talking
points about their rights and not about anybody else's. And
it's not a ban. It's a temporary pause. Okay, so that we can make
this community safer. She
Adam Curry: is so so vying for a VP maybe even President
Certainly Aviva.
John C Dvorak: Maybe, maybe this is the place she that everyone
knows that Campbell was like a weak link and nobody likes her.
Yeah. And they gotta get rid of her if they're gonna run again,
and Biden's not going to give up the ghost and Brokk Well,
whatever you guys can know, Biden's gonna get jacked out,
you'll see it. It's going to be in the next few weeks. I can't
wait. You're gonna jack him up. Yes, with a shot. He's gonna
give a big rousing speech bitching about everything. And
it's about you know, Dana day. And so they're gonna move out.
Harris and we moved this girl in.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. For the for the next run. Okay, so you
think Joe is still good to run for? For 2020 24
John C Dvorak: He's proven he can beat Trump. Okay.
Adam Curry: Even though the Democrat insiders are saying
he's too old, which is code for he's too wasted.
John C Dvorak: I think there's a schism in the party. And this
schism is being shown a said WaPo is right on there, right
there at the front of it. There are saying now, you know, you
get to David Ignatius being the front guy of all the column that
you could have used, you put him as the guy because I don't know
why. But there's a reason for that choice. Maybe nobody else
wanted to do it to be the point man for this whole takedown. And
so they chose him and he's okay with it. He's not, not the
greatest in terms of being appointment. And, you know,
turning the whole party against Joe. You know, it's a salvo. So
just a shot across the bow. Let's see what happens. Yeah.
Okay. Well, Joe has not given up and his team has not given up
and so they're looking for somebody new in the UB are
probably identified her and this Michelle, who I thought should
have been the one in the first place.
Adam Curry: The way you sir, you're agreeing with me. Did you
just agree with me?
John C Dvorak: I said Biden's gonna run again. Is that
agreeing with you? No. You said it should have been Michelle.
First Mike's gonna run again. That's Michelle. The Big Mike is
Michelle. No, machette No. Michelle Grisham.
Adam Curry: Oh, I'm sorry. I was like, whoa, what are you talking
about? All right. Now, the Bobby The Opera thing, Kennedy. I
think he may be an art. But he if anything, he's an opt to get
Trump elected, that he can take votes away. He can actually
degrade the Democrats and
John C Dvorak: you have to assume if that's true, do we
have to make the assumption that Trump has sold out and is now
okay to go? Is that what you're saying?
Adam Curry: When I'm here? I'll tell you my bottom line. I don't
think anyone controls it. But someone controls the voting and
whoever runs the show, determines who becomes
president. And they screwed up and somehow Trump eked through
and he got it. And they're never going to let that happen again.
No matter come hell or high water. That's what I think. I
don't think voting matters. I think your vote doesn't matter.
My vote doesn't matter. I think it's completely completely
bogus. I really do. It's it's hard to think of that, but I
think it just doesn't matter. It's rigged every every which
way and they just took their eye off the ball because they
thought oh, Hillary Trump can't do it. If somehow they forgot to
do some stuff somebody took no wasn't wasn't Pamela and dropped
the ball, I'm gonna drop the ball and then eat now never
happen again, ever. It's it's been determined, do whatever
they want. It's all been set, and has nothing to do with the
people in Washington has nothing to do with the Department of
Justice, or the FBI or anything like that. It's rigged, it's
screwball. That's what I really think.
John C Dvorak: Well, that's what you really think is fine. And so
I don't see how anything you just said makes any sense with
bringing in Big Mike.
Adam Curry: Okay, we'll see. You will repent.
John C Dvorak: Mike is no Big Mike is out.
Adam Curry: Okay, let's talk about one other thing that I
need to get off my chest. Don't call it a comeback. That's back.
And just to confuse you even further into believing that this
summer cold is somehow COVID XB 3.225974. Let's bring out of a
whistleblower
Unknown: this morning. The CIA confirms it's looking into
accusations that several members of an agency team tasked with
COVID pandemic analysis were paid significant hush money to
shift their position regarding the origins of the virus. Two
Republican lawmakers have sent a letter to CIA director William
Burns, claiming that a senior level current agency officer
came forward alleging the payoff they say a According to the
whistleblower, seven officers were assigned to the CIA's COVID
discovery team, and six of the seven members of the team
believed the intelligence and science were sufficient to make
a low confidence assessment that COVID-19 originated from a
laboratory in Wuhan, China. The letter claims only one a person
on that team, who was most senior believe that COVID could
have been transmitted from animals to humans, but that to
come to the eventual public determination of uncertainty,
the other six members were given a significant monetary incentive
to change their position. The whistleblower did not explain
the payments or who might have made them. The CIA tells ABC
News we are committed to the highest standards of analytic
rigor, integrity and objectivity. We do not pay
analysts to reach specific conclusions. The origins of
COVID have been the subject of several congressional hearings.
Former CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield earlier this year,
testified he was excluded from discussions because he believed
the lab leak theory warranted investigation
was told to me that they wanted a single narrative and that I
obviously had a different point of view.
Dr. Anthony Fauci called that accusation untrue. In June, the
Office of the Director of National Intelligence said the
CIA and another agency were unable to decide on where they
think COVID origins lie, as both hypotheses rely on significant
assumptions, or face challenges with conflicting reporting. This
new letter is asking for documents related to the COVID
discovery team's creation, communications about COVID
origins and records of any financial bonuses. The letter is
asking for that information to be turned over by September 26.
Adam Curry: So I the timing of this is is suspect. The minute
the FDA authorizes the new vaccination booster, you know,
there's even disagreement over what we're calling it. That
bring in Redfield I think this is all, all Vonk. A
whistleblower, particularly inside the government has
whistleblower protections, but you have to come forward. And
I'm reading from the United States House Committee on
Oversight Accountability press release. They say staff on the
Select subcommittee of the Coronavirus pandemic and
Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence have heard
testimony from a whistleblower alleging that the Central
Intelligence Agency offered six analysts significant monetary
incentives to change their position and COVID-19 origin the
whistleblower who presents as a highly credible senior level CIA
officer, what does that mean? The whistleblower who presents
Is this person a highly credible senior level CIA officer or do
they just present that way? What does that mean?
John C Dvorak: It means that the whoever wrote the press release
was illiterate.
Adam Curry: The whistleblower who presents as a highly
credible level surely
John C Dvorak: whistleblower was a high level guy. This whole
thing is is bullcrap. Correct?
Adam Curry: It's it's only to get you to believe that this is
all a real thing right now. Forget about the original. Right
now. No, this is just the flu is just a cold that literally
Coronavirus literally is a cold. But the timing is perfect.
believe it's real because we've got another shot for you.
Unknown: Tonight's FDA authorization is a major step
towards new booster shots after the CDC meets Tuesday vaccines
from Maderna. And Pfizer could go into arms by the end of the
week,
Adam Curry: drug arms arms talk about a pitch into arms or could
go
Unknown: into arms by the end of the week. drug makers say
boosters should increase protective antibodies against
the latest strains, including ba 286. The CDC says the mutation
shows the ability to in fact they're protected and even those
who've already had COVID. But it doesn't appear to be more
severe.
What this Booster will do is protect us against severe
disease, hospitalization. And the data so far indicate that
the booster is well matched to those strains, though national
Adam Curry: doesn't that sound Oh, that doesn't sound a lot
like the same script they used to use for the flu. Oh, we've
matched it. It's the right one. We figured it out. It's the
right one for this strain for this year strain of the flu for
this, for this year's strain of the pandemic of the COVID
Unknown: is well matched to those strains. Though national
COVID cases are no longer tracked. Some states are
reporting a rise though not a worrisome wave in new infection
Adam Curry: worrisome wave Oh man's hospitalizations are
Unknown: up nearly 16% Even though 97% of adults have some
level of protective immunity II
I was extremely exhausted and that congestion
congestion, college seniors just caught the virus that she
returned to school just like many adults have at work and at
large venues.
Last week, a lot of my classes were empty because a lot of kids
were reporting that they were sick
Adam Curry: reporting because they didn't want to go to
school. While the
Unknown: federal government will no longer pay for booster shots.
Most Americans will be covered by private insurance or
Medicare. local clinics are also expected to offer the roughly
$120 shot for free. While many new infections are mild. Tonight
there is concern a winter wave could be near if Americans don't
take precautions or get protection.
Adam Curry: We went from a worrisome wave to a winter wave
and we need to bring out as many people as we can onto the phony
baloney and five M networks to sell this to sell it to the
American people. Do you remember Dr. Jha? Remember that guy? jaw?
Yeah, remember
John C Dvorak: jaw?
Adam Curry: Well, they brought him on the Today Show job. Let's
sell it baby sell at home. Bring
Unknown: it Joining us now. Dr. Ashish Shah, the former White
House COVID Response Coordinator. Now once again, the
Dean of Brown University's School of Public Health. Dr.
Shah, you had your tour of duty in Washington. But here we are
talking about what some people are calling a COVID booster. But
this is a new shot. Tell us about this new one and what it
responds to which is it? Is it a particular variant? Is it for
the original COVID Why don't we need to get it? Yeah.
Okay, that sounds. So first of all, thrilled to be back.
Adam Curry: It's good to be back. You know, it's good to be
on the payroll. Look,
Unknown: every year we update our flu vaccine to match the flu
strain that's circulating.
Adam Curry: And now we're just doubling down with two shots for
you every year.
Unknown: We're starting to do the same thing with COVID. Yes,
yes. So there are new strains of COVID that are circulating and
you need a new shot once a year. I don't call it a booster
because it's just your annual COVID shot at this point. And
most people should go out and get their annual COVID shot. The
way they get their annual flu shot and it's matched it matches
the strains that are circulating out there right now.
Adam Curry: It matches it's just like a flu shot it's crazy it's
just like a flu shot this is exactly what we used to do only
we want to make more money $120 per shot Don't worry your
insurance will pay for it doesn't cost anybody in the
world anything else and Medicare will pay for it. I don't know
where the magic money okay, so we
Unknown: should be getting that shot and shot. A lot of people
are about to get their flu shot. Is it a good idea to get both of
those shots together?
Adam Curry: Well for the let's look at the balance sheet. Yes,
it's a great idea together
Unknown: it is I got both of them last year together. Totally
safe to do that.
Adam Curry: Totally sue that guy that did that. Right what he
said right there I think it's sewable Hey, Dr. Shah said it's
totally safe.
Unknown: It works just as well to do that. It's obviously much
more convenient. You can get them in the same arm you get
them different arms it doesn't matter if you get them at the
same
good point we don't call it a booster shot. What are
Adam Curry: vaccines don't call it a booster it's a shot baby
it's new we don't say that about the flu. It has to be new and
fresh every single time Yeah, your annual flu
Unknown: shot you will kill the child get them together. It
makes the fall the winter the holidays just much safer. Much
better for everybody. It's much better
Adam Curry: for everybody because you don't want to kill
granny hospitalization numbers that we've seen pick up from the
prior week. To what do we attribute that? I heard an
uptick I heard a script uptick it's ticked up the
hospitalization
Unknown: numbers that we've seen tick up to what do we tribute
that it's just this like a return to It's just the numbers
to work after Labor Day is more to it than that? Yeah, look
COVID is gonna be with us right for ever just the way fluids
Adam Curry: are with Wait a minute, wait a minute. Wait a
minute. When did we hear that COVID is going to be with us
forever just like the flu is with us. Have you ever had was
this a major scientific survey study or something? Did you hear
about any of this?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, no, this Yeah, no, no, this was presented
a couple of this was early on in the game they represent us okay,
it's largely because Coronavirus is the cold so always gonna be
with us. It's always
Unknown: gonna be with us. COVID is gonna be with us. Right for
ever just the way through is
Adam Curry: forever. He totally, forever, forever.
Unknown: Yeah, look, COVID is gonna be with us, right for ever
just the way floats. With COVID we probably going to see a
couple of these little waves a year where it's gonna go up,
it's gonna go down. Oh, they usually happen during the
winter. We get one usually during this summer. This is just
sort of that late summer COVID way we've seen it each of the
last couple of summers. We're seeing it again. I'm hoping it's
going to turn around and it's going to peak and start coming
back down. This is a reality and we can manage our way through it
up on the vaccines
Adam Curry: just you can manage to
John C Dvorak: do they do the right thing here and suggest
that twice a year shot.
Adam Curry: Even better. Even better than that. They don't
even hide it anymore. They say look, look five Desert moderna.
They're sponsoring this segment. They're paying for everything on
television right now. Could you just get to the could you close
it? Can you pitch this thing and close it for me?
Unknown: Dr. John make your big pitch here. Okay? I mean because
a lot of folks, if you're immunocompromised if you're
elderly you know you want us
Adam Curry: I knew I get you with that one. Make Your Pitch.
Come on, man. We got 40 seconds left, Make Your Pitch doctors
job
Unknown: to make your big pitch here. Okay? I mean, because a
lot of folks okay if you're immunocompromised if you're
elderly, you know, you want to stay on top of your COVID shots.
Other folks who are like I'm reasonably healthy, I'm young,
do I really need to do it? Or you know, I've had COVID three
times and I had all the shots. Yeah. What's your pitch?
Adam Curry: What point at what point is that Savannah?
John C Dvorak: I know. I'm not sure that Savannah but whoever
it is, because it because she's not. I can't tell right there.
But the idea that you'd say I've been vaccinated double Vax, have
been boosted and boosted have had COVID Three times why do we
need another shot? It's just like, does anyone notice how
ludicrous This is?
Adam Curry: Thank you for pointing that out. It's this is
an we, I was I was dinner last night and you have people
talking about their family members who are doctors who are
doctors. And you can literally say to them, Do you remember
when it was safe and effective? And 95%? Yes. Do you remember it
went to 85 and 75? And then you needed to and they needed a
booster and they needed another booster and was safe and
effective? And then if you wouldn't go into the hospital
and and you know you would be no severe illness and and you know
there's no myocarditis is crazy. And any of that you remember all
of that? Yeah. Well, then why do you think that this is any
different? Well, I haven't you know, I'm not dead. That's a
Hama Hama that's only unvaccinated people. You know?
It's, it's isn't that what's it called? Cognitive dissonance.
Isn't that the exact perfect textbook example of cognitive
dissonance? Like see that isn't? It's yeah, dissonance. Am I
saying it wrong? That's I said, dissident, no dissonance.
John C Dvorak: He has a funnier tear. If you think about let's
finish his
Adam Curry: pitch his big pitch.
Unknown: Yep. What's your pitch? Yeah,
so a couple of things. First of all, if you get COVID After
getting vaccinated, it's gonna be much milder, you're less
likely to miss work, you're gonna miss Screw it. Second,
you're less likely to spread it to others. So maybe you're not
high risk. Maybe grandma is if you've gotten the COVID shot,
you're less likely to spread it to her that makes a really big
grandma. And then you know, some people go on to develop long
COVID where they can have long term complications. That gets
reduced a lot by getting vaccinated to free widely
available to me it's a no brainer free,
Adam Curry: free free. Why?
John C Dvorak: I like the idea of charging of all things
because the shot is we already know the cost of the shots 19
bucks Max 120 bucks for the 20 120
Adam Curry: Well was 20 bucks that was a murderer and 120 It's
120 so
John C Dvorak: I'm just really gonna get to the point. So they
got it, we know what it cost is 1920 attended nine to $20 worth
the cost to make make the thing and so they spill a sell for
3040 bucks, but by jacking the price way up to 120 and then
saying it's free. It's a marketing trick. Yeah, yes.
Adam Curry: Thank you. Yes. So
John C Dvorak: why don't they just say well, this this is
what's coming this has got to be coming because I would do this
if I was the marketing guy at Pfizer. Yeah, it goes like this
well this new this be next year, the new you get the new variant
this was a tough one. This cost the district r&d that went into
getting this just this one done. This shot is going to be 300
bucks 300 bucks is good that's what it's going to cost but free
if who you know it's about 300 bucks so you jack the unity of
phony baloney up to some Vitsin price in the sky charged the
government for that because you know, they the you still have to
pay somebody has to pay the 300 bucks. When when when when maybe
just
Adam Curry: the very end there what he said was kind of cool.
Unknown: That gets reduced a lot by getting vaccinated to free
widely available. To me, it's a no brainer,
Adam Curry: it's a no brainer. That's the payoff. It's a no
brainer. What's wrong with you, you don't need a brain. In fact,
if you have no brain, it's better that you get this shot.
But but let's talk to let's go over to NBC stay with NBC not
the today's show. How about side effects, you know, any issues?
And
Unknown: what about any side effects with this one? Yeah,
they're supposed to mirror previous versions of the the
COVID shot.
You might have a sore arm fatigue, nausea, headache,
even fever. In some cases,
some people have learned by now whether there's someone who
should take the day off the next day because more of a reaction
to the shot. It seems to be different for everyone, right? I
remember I was a little sick, but not too bad after you know.
All right, Erica, thank
you so much. Appreciate it.
Adam Curry: Thank you. Why don't we ask Dr. Fauci about side
effects. Let's just ask him on ABC This Week.
Unknown: So what's your sense, obviously those that are in high
risk categories, but who, who should be taking that booster?
You know, I don't I don't want to get ahead of the ACI P in
their recommendation, my own personal feeling is that I
believe certainly those who are vulnerable, the elderly, and
those with underlying conditions will vary. But I believe we
should give the choice to people who are not in the high risk
groups to have the vaccine available for them. Because,
again, we have experience with this type of vaccine in billions
of people. It's a safe vaccine, of course, with the mRNA there's
a very, very, very low risk it particularly in young men of
getting a myocarditis.
Adam Curry: Oh, wait, I don't remember that in the beginning.
And but that's a very, very, very, very, very, very low risk,
particularly in young men, but it's very, very, very, very,
very low risk.
Unknown: It's a safe vaccine. Of course, with the mRNA. There's a
very, very, very low risk very, very, very, very, it
particularly in young men of getting a myocarditis, but if
you look at the risk of myocarditis from COVID, itself
is greater than the risk of the vaccine. Okay, and so from my
own personal standpoint, yeah, I don't make it available for
everyone, but certainly recommended for the high risk
people,
Adam Curry: ya know, you get, you get myocarditis from COVID,
not from the vaccine from COVID. From COVID. This guy is a liar.
And now I thought
John C Dvorak: he was retired. My understanding was, and I've
said it before, yes, he is a few months back, he quit the job
he's done. He's not why is he still on TV constantly? Because
he
Adam Curry: gets paid to do that. He's he is a full fledged
employee of the pharmaceutical industry. He gets he actually
still gets royalties just because you no longer with NIH
doesn't mean you don't get the royalties that goes on in
perpetuity. He still
John C Dvorak: doesn't mean he has to be on TV once you just go
home and collect royalties, cash checks,
Adam Curry: are you seriously asking me why he's on TV? The
man sells? Come on. He's America's he's, he's the COVID
patron saint. We trust him. The mask though the Cochrane study.
That's a bit of a problem. And we're almost out of time. But I
want to ask you a
Unknown: new study out that suggested masks we're actually
not effective, at least in a global sense. And
Adam Curry: remember that, oh, it's local level. They're
effective, but not on a global level and
Unknown: containing the pandemic? What what is your
sense looking back at all this? Did masks proved to be less
effective than you anticipated? Oh, you know, John, is some of
the studies that confusing the study that recently has been now
quoted a lot and causing a lot of confusion, confusion is this
Cochrane study, which even the people who run the Cochrane
studies say that that study can be misleading, because Pingree
commented on that study saying absolutely masks don't work.
Which is absolutely not the case. Because there are a number
of studies that actually do work. And there's a lot of
confusion. When you take a broad, a series of studies and
you look at them in a meta analysis, only a couple of those
studies, were specifically looking at COVID. So I think we
better be careful that that study that people keep talking
about can be very, very misleading. There's a lot of
good data, that masks work
Adam Curry: well. Okay. So that's just that's just
wastewater of the mouth because you said nothing. Wouldn't it be
nice if we could hear from the man who actually ran that study
who's behind the study? Dr. Jefferson, because there's no
confusion in his mind about the Cochrane study. And I'll give it
to Smerconish from CNN for bringing this guy on and saying,
what's the deal with your study? Why is it so controversial,
which I don't think it is. But according to Dr. Fauci is, ya
know, can be misinterpreted is very confused. Even the people
that ran the study say it's confusing. The
Unknown: Cochrane reports physical interventions to
interrupt or reduce the spread of respiratory viruses was
published earlier this year. An aggregate analysis of scientific
studies on the efficacy of masks Dr. Lena Wen in The Washington
Post is called Cochrane, a highly reputable source. Its
systemic reviews are considered the gold standard of medical
analysis. So I thought I would go to the source, the first
author of The Cochrane study and hear his side of the
controversy. Dr. Tom Jefferson joins me now he's an
epidemiologist and senior associate tutor at the
University of Oxford. Do masks work, in your opinion in
stopping the spread of COVID.
We've got three SARS cov, two, three trials of SARS cov two and
now I'm showing the effect it is is impossible to show that
something doesn't work in this case. And we science adopts a
probabilistic approach. So it's a chance approach. Is it more
likely than not? At the moment? There is no evidence that that
is the case. Which Mark mask against which oxygen, there's
hundreds of pathogens. So that's a situation.
Adam Curry: I have to say this worries me when you bring in the
divorce check. There's no evidence, like, I don't know, I
don't know how to interpret that. But we can ask even more
clearly, can you say with certainty that masks don't work?
Unknown: So I'm hoping to bring clarity to viewers because it's
very hard to follow as lay people. It sounds to me, Dr.
Jefferson, as you are saying, We don't know. And by the way, when
I when I look at the author's conclusion, and I'll put this on
the screen, the authors, the author's can conclusion from the
most recent of these flat out says there is uncertainty about
the effects of face masks. I don't want people to think that
you're here saying they don't work. It sounds to me like
you're here saying, I can't tell you if they do, or they don't
work. But please speak for yourself.
You're correct. I can't tell you whether they work or don't work.
But it's more likely than not that they they don't work. Okay,
based on but this is not just against SARS, cov to COVID, the
COVID pathogens, we're looking at interventions over a 78
trials over 50 years, a whole review is over half a million
participants in these trials. Now, the underlying problem that
you've got there is that people are drunk with certainty.
They're told that something works into the story. That's not
science. what science is about is is likely or unlikely to work
or we can't find any evidence of it.
Adam Curry: Okay, so what is it if it's not science, it's
politics, the hospitalization numbers that we've seen, sorry.
That was, was
John C Dvorak: well, you know, talking about politics are you
bringing in COVID in politics? Are you familiar with what's
going on in New York with quarantine camps?
Adam Curry: No goodness, do you have a clip of this? Tell me you
have a clip. I have to thank you. Masks don't work by the
way. Quarantine camps
Unknown: New York State is still fighting for the right to set up
quarantine camps. Today. The battle entered the next phase
when the court heard oral arguments in that case,
quarantine camps in the state of New York Governor Kathy Hoko and
Attorney General Letitia James want to implement rule 2.13. It
will give the state's Department of Health the power to forcibly
isolate individuals suspected of carrying a transmittable
disease.
This is truly about being able to control citizens for any
reason.
New York State Senator George perello and lead attorney Bobby
and Cox sued the state over the rule and won the case last year.
However, the state appealed and on Wednesday, attorneys made
their case before an appeals court.
The rule says the commissioner of health can pick any place
that the Commissioner of Health wants to put you. You have no
say.
As you can see, in this clip, hundreds of people showed up at
the court protesting the idea of quarantine camps set up to stop
the spread of communicable diseases. Senator, the COVID
pandemic is over. Why does the state of New York still want to
have the right to set up these camps?
Well, first and foremost, we have to remember even though the
governor and the Attorney General tried to make this about
COVID
The senator says the state's rule would apply to a long list
of diseases not just COVID.
It goes everything from toxic shock syndrome to food
poisoning. And while food poisoning might be a serious
condition, it is not communicable.
Adam Curry: Wait is toxic shock syndrome communicable. No,
that's that this Who is this guy.
John C Dvorak: He's telling you what this. What this would Coco
wants to do is take people off the streets, grab them and throw
them into a quarantine camp for good reason.
Adam Curry: That's right, New York. goober Allah's,
Unknown: the senator says New York's executive branch is
overreaching by trying to implement this rule. According
to him, the state's proposed rule is basically a copy of a
previous proposal, which didn't get any support from state
lawmakers and thus didn't become law.
But what the event essentially says if the legislature isn't
going to make this law, we will. So it's a very clear violation
of separation of powers. The lead
attorney in the case points out a few things in the state's
rule, which he says are against the law.
According to the rule, you would not get an attorney until after
you're locked up. But you also wouldn't get notice, which means
that the Department of Health could show up at your door or
they could send the police with an order that you need to
isolate or quarantine. And it could be not just for you it
could be for your child.
Meanwhile, the state argues that its proposed rule only clarifies
existing law. Supporters of the rules say quarantine measures
are being used in states around the US and have been used for
centuries.
Adam Curry: Wow, I'm gonna give you I'm gonna give you a clip of
the day for that. Wow. Wow. Wow that is that's borderline
upsetting only because I have a stepdaughter in New York
John C Dvorak: that they get grab her and throw her in the
camp.
Adam Curry: This is part of the International Health Regulations
um, did tell you this, they want it they want so much control
just like this nut job in New Mexico under health regulations
once you know bands yawns it's bad. Yeah, health regulation.
Oh, no, we gotta lock you up. Luckily, there's one sane voice
among the sea of horrible, horrible people. And that's Fran
Drescher. And I knew I liked her. And I liked her even more
after seeing this on Instagram,
Unknown: as the President of sag AFTRA, it has been my obligation
to follow the board's decision to support the employers
privilege to vaccine mandate productions, as they so pleased,
as Fran Drescher as well as the president of sag AFTRA. I have
been outspoken, publicly, as well as with my board, and
executive director in defense of those members who are
unvaccinated for a myriad of reasons. And as a consequence,
has lost their livelihoods, their representation and their
health benefits. The reason that there are so many prescriptive
drugs at the pharmacy is because there isn't one kind that works
for everyone. So to think that every human on the planet can
take one vaccine is ludicrous, other crimes and make that one
vaccine, the criteria for who is allowed to work, travel, dine,
go to theater, etc, is an infringement on the Disabilities
Act, the freedom of religion act, and body sovereignty. We as
a nation must be very careful that fear does not turn into
fascism. When equal citizens stop being equal, when cards
must be presented to identify whether you are included or
excluded. We stand at a tipping point of an America I no longer
recognize. And even though I myself am vaccinated, I must
applaud Disney for taking the position not to vaccine mandate
their sets and the longer the problem with discrimination is
that there will always be good people who justify it because of
an extreme condition. But it is those times especially when we
must fight even harder to protect the sanctity of freedom
for all never succumb to an us versus them mentality. Above all
else, Freedom peace
Adam Curry: I liked that. That
John C Dvorak: bill she's always been demanded mandatory
vaccines.
Adam Curry: Yeah, but she she brought in a lot of other she
she brought in the cards and the others and that was good. She's
got a target on her back now but that was good.
John C Dvorak: She's gonna be vote are out. Now. I
Adam Curry: think she just I think she did. She just got
reelected. I don't think she did this before her reelection. That
will be crazy. No, I liked that. There was a sane voice I liked
she threw in a little nanny. That's ludicrous. She
John C Dvorak: threw it
Adam Curry: like that. And you know what else I like saying to
you in the morning the man who just put the sea in the
quarantine camps ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend
on the other end the one and only Mr. John
Unknown: Green Marine
Adam Curry: 1902 We have in the troll room right now. 1902 I
think that's good for Thursday if I'm not mistaken. 100 up,
we're up. We're up and we're late. So it's good. We're up
we're gonna do one segment for you all. And the trolls are
listening in Hello trolls. I do love the trolls. Trolls think I
don't like him but I adore the troll you're
John C Dvorak: telling me after the show.
Adam Curry: I adore them because they keep me on edge keep me
riled up at one I need it and, and they give me a good one
liners that give me some some duds and some bombs, but I'll
try them all Thank you, trolls. And you too can be a part of
that but going to troll room.io We send out a bad signal before
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know politically incorrect but she's fat she sings we have. And
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John C Dvorak: on that? I was just thinking about I was
noticing that the phone was disconnected in a way that is
not what I expected.
Adam Curry: Wow, okay. Hmm, indeed. Thank you for listening
to my rant there. I appreciate that. It was good read. You
notice we don't have any people coming on telling us to be, you
know, to with big pitches on on getting the VAX or any other
kinds of corporate creepy corporate money that slides in?
No, no, in fact, we haven't taken a break for over two
hours. Whereas if you're listening to the radio, you
would have had heard at least 20 minutes time, 40 minutes of
commercials, none of that. We didn't ask you to go to a
Patreon for some premium content. All the premium is
right here up front. There's nothing that you can't get to
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if you feel value has been received on your end, you send
that back to us with time talent or treasure. Many ways you can
do this you can tell someone about the show. That's that's
hitting people in the mouth is a big part of it. You can also
create jingles get clips to us do boots on the ground, so many
ways you can participate. One of the things we love the most is
very talented artists. And these artists listen to the show live
that one of those 19 102 people today, and they are trying to
come up with outstanding artwork that will fit perfectly with
this episode because the Muller report, the Muller report shows
that a good piece of art gets people interested reminds them
that we are the best podcast in the universe, because we had the
best podcast art in the universe. And we'd like to thank
the artists who brought us the artwork for episode 1589
misidentified I might might point out the my opening of the
last show as 1598 for some reason. Oh, oh, yeah. In
blender. Yeah. I'm from the future. And as
John C Dvorak: you know, 5098
Adam Curry: COVID v 90 idea. Yeah. As from the future. I'm 10
episodes in the future is
John C Dvorak: dyslexic future the
Adam Curry: Exactly. The artwork came to us from Kenny Ben Dame
Kenny, Ben. And she brought us and exactly as you predicted,
John, some people thought it was about the football match. This
was the Bama pencil. Very short, stubby, thin, pencil. Bomber
bomber.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, a lot of people's Crimson Tide.
Adam Curry: A lot of people thought it was about that. Many
people realized there was about the donation segment on the last
show of which one complained. Only one complaint I was
surprised. You said it wasn't. I thought there'll be many more.
Only one complaint and that time she
John C Dvorak: gets because there's only one guy listening.
Adam Curry: It was a she? She only one guy listening. Yes, I
got that note. Yeah. But she she said she just turned off the
donation segment and then she came back so that's good news. I
understand. I understand why that was harsh. She was tough to
listen to. Um, there were a number of choices that we could
make. We had to make one of course. So we thank all of the
artists let's see what we were looking at. What do we have to
work with? What's your fav this one right off the bat? It was my
fav yes. No doubt.
John C Dvorak: was a lot of Kennedy's playing tennis which
is funny. Yeah. A few cheesecake things here and there.
Adam Curry: Shall Obama Big Mike.
John C Dvorak: Mike, it's not gonna happen. It's not gonna
happen. There really wasn't a lot of competitive wasn't
anything that really stood want to do you Who's? No that was
going to work?
Adam Curry: No. No, I did like correct the record who had a guy
holding up a sign saying Obama's Dong is more interesting than
clips about Africa. That was funny message
John C Dvorak: just a message to you was really submission wasn't
meant as art allows us to do that all the time. I don't know.
There was another artist that used to send us messages by
turning in art with a note somebody holding a note which
was complaining about something.
Adam Curry: I don't remember who that was. But it's okay. Sir net
net did a trans mouse thing I mean, it's I think that you want
something like the what I liked about Dame Kenny Benz is you
didn't have to hear the show to know that something was up. And
it was mysterious because as a Bama as an Alabama is Bama as an
Obama. No it was it was very popped and really pop it was a
hand drawn pencil. It wasn't a picture of it wasn't clipart so
it was it was I thought it was a very good piece. I really loved
it. So net net threw in a freeze peach but now no one will get
that and J con sketch did a sketch But nope, nope, not and I
like that. You're doing sketches, but that wasn't the
one so clearly named Kenny. Ben. She for the wind. How are we on
the on the leaderboard? Where's Dame Kenny mentioned number
five. Number five for the past year of the top 10 That's pretty
good. Network still number one Taunton Neil number two capillus
agenda number three, Nikko sign number four. There she is named
Kenny BIM. Number five. Thank you to all of our artists for
really giving it the Yeoman's try, but only one can win and
we're happy to credit that artist in the in our show notes
which we do diligently thank you again. Damn Kenny. Bam. Now to
the ever important treasurer part of how you can send back
value to the no agenda show. We have a couple of executive and
Associate Executive producers to thank a number of them becoming
knights and ordains today kicking off do you have this
note? This note here? The first one is from anonymous. Do you
have this note John Yeah, behind you. I
John C Dvorak: have it right in front of me.
Adam Curry: Okay, tell me about this note because it was a doozy
of a donation 22 I have the note how 22 a massive row of ducks
John C Dvorak: yes anonymous in the morning boys please accept
his row of ducks value tu tu tu tu tu tu tu I was hitting them
out two years ago by Sir son of the fort and have rarely missed
a show since but I have never contributed until now. Well
that's how you do it. Yeah, so I need a solid D douching.
Adam Curry: Sorry, hold on douching here you've been d do
solid totally solid.
John C Dvorak: Thank you for all your work on the greatest
podcast in the universe your deconstruction of the media and
news is refreshing I believe it's a row of ducks gives me
both executive producer and full knighthood status correct if
approved please Knight me as sir pursuit of peace and tranquility
and the lands of the red clay and cherry trees.
Adam Curry: Red Clay and chair is that Japan
John C Dvorak: right yeah, I don't think so. It's
Adam Curry: red clay and cherry trees
John C Dvorak: if knighted if knighted Well, he's will be ice
on the list as far as I know. Yes. I would greatly appreciate
Coors Light twist tip only. Twist top only Yes. Double
pepperoni pizza and hot wings at the round table. I will be
contributing a shorter row of ducks going forward to keep
myself current current. No jingles no carbon necessary.
Thank you. Sincerely anonymous. You go I'm beautiful.
Adam Curry: I'm just looking at my knees in
John C Dvorak: Georgia so maybe that's red clay and peach. I got
it. I gave it his red plane somewhere in Georgia. I
Adam Curry: don't know I got it. I got it. Thank you very much.
That's beautiful. Then we have David now so we know David now
730 Mouse family Yes 738 72 and says if you mentioned nows
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as marketing okay
John C Dvorak: now's drywall of petroleum Ontario Canada.
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to no agenda show. My 30/41 birthday is on the show day
September 14. So we've got all that for you. Night name is
because you're going to be knighted a lot of stuff
happening here sir drywall of the Walnut Ridge. Side note i
Listen Live on Sundays while I have my Sunday afternoon nap for
humanity. Then relisting on Monday to what I've missed. When
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Unknown: donate to no agenda they give us as we get there we
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John C Dvorak: There you go. Nice once you get the next one
and I'll get the one with the note.
Adam Curry: Okay, hold on a second. This is from Lisa
church. I believe church Brentwood, Tennessee. John Rich
church. Well, doesn't matter because it's a switcheroo. This
$640 donation is to the best podcast in the universe and
celebrate my better half 64th trip around the sun Happy
Birthday mark. All right, let me change that to mark all right.
Consider that done. Okay, set. Mark. Sure. With this donation
Mark church becomes a night a perfect gift for the guy who
buys his own birthday gifts leaving us with no ideas
however, this gift of a knighthood will honor Him
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engineer very funny in honor of his long career as an E like
electrical engineer shout out to our favorite spooks surveillance
who hit us in the mouth several years ago jingles a biscuit for
his birthday and I can do that right they always give me a
biscuit on my birthday. Anything from rev owl you're really
asking for everything you see rev owl Okay, gotta rip out and
screaming dog karma for the roundtable. Please serve egg and
cheese bagels and Diet Coke along with the obligatory mutton
and meat. Thanks for all you do. From Lisa church in Brentwood,
Tennessee,
Unknown: the GOP inviting is escalating. Political says
Democrats are outright Jide happy to watch the GOP
John C Dvorak: a really nice card that came in from Patricia
Lewis in Merced, California 33334. And she writes in a nice
handwriting to Dear John and Adam, thank you for continually
bringing awesome content followed by deconstruction of
pertinent news. Yes, this enclosed donation is a double
birthday contribution for my son Brian Lewis of a Tuscadero and
myself Patricia Lewis of Merced to California. We celebrate a
shared birthday on September 20. He was the best gift I've ever
received jobs karma for all in deep appreciation signed
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Adam Curry: now we got that for you jobs and regular karma
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. That's Armand
Adam Curry: Luca Maria as Berto is in Soboba, Switzerland, yes,
Switzerland ch Switzerland, I believe. Yeah. 333 dot 33 Happy
belated birthday to me. What? Yeah, yes, Switzerland. Happy
belated birthday to me September 11. That's right. I'm an inside
job. Thank you for your
John C Dvorak: courage. She's on the list
Adam Curry: key I think it Luca is I'm just gonna Luca
John C Dvorak: Shia Baron anonymous cop in Redwood City,
California. Now he says advertising read voice Okay.
Bear an anonymous copy here. The unofficial seller of new agenda
tactical patches and limited edition challenge coins on
etsy.com/bootleg coin ca of which I have only a few show
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holidays start ready to five out of five by no agenda nation.
John I'm appalled at the flurry of abhorrent content you played
on show 50 And there's a second complainer it is if you didn't
give that one a listen it's a must people with that horrific
Oh, he's talking about the vocal fried tic tock
Adam Curry: oh okay, well
John C Dvorak: that was a dead horrible vocal fried kick talker
as the cherry on top of the No I guess it will he's just like to
show the content almost made me crash on highway 101 during rush
hour while dodging potholes. Please by God, no more of that.
I will keep this short. I have been reassigned to graveyard
hours protecting the road Elon Musk, the zombies and things
that go bump in the night. This show is what grounds me on my
days off and I think you guys all listen to the show on
graveyard in the car. And thank both of you and the entire nogen
a nation and messy over 10 years of listening. Cheers, gentlemen,
the Baron anonymous copy of the Bay Area. Adam, I just switched
from graphene OS to calyx OS on my Pixel. Give it a look.
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's a hard pass for me. calyx OS is
sponsored by the Canadian government. So that's a that's
just a no, but thank you. And I'm glad that you like it. Baron
anonymous cop. Peter McCool, Yuba City California 333 Please
dee doo dee doo SBT jingles little scary little girl scary
bow Jaiden Biden whole load women no karma for all right
Unknown: I'm gonna give you the whole load. No, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no.
Adam Curry: That's not the women you where's the one? That's
weird. It was ice. Oh, no, I don't understand. Let me just
see. ISO No, this is on how can this be hit it? Now? That's the
wrong one. It's May it's maybe it's no ISIL oh man, we've lost
this one before.
John C Dvorak: B L G in Jacksonville. Florida is up.
Sorry. 100 bucks. Dear John. What Adam? Firstly, I much
prefer you to add him. Thanks for letting him know. Secondly,
my husband Oh, this is a female listener. Secondly, my husband
gave me Mimi's books too many eggs for my birthday and I love
it. Too many eggs.com in following this donation is for
my husband. It's his birthday. Today is September 14. And so I
would like him to get a biscuit.
Adam Curry: No, you don't like me? So thanks no Biscay
subscribing
John C Dvorak: but he likes busy under a rock so he will remain
anonymous. Thanks blg so this is a muting to be very rude
switcheroo we're gonna give it to her husband anyway. On what
Adam Curry: we say anonymous.
John C Dvorak: Via BL G's anonymous husband I don't know
Adam Curry: but she wants me to after this rude comments. She
wants me to give her husband a biscuit first birthday.
John C Dvorak: She just prefers me. She didn't say she hates
you.
Unknown: Okay, they always give me a biscuit on my birthday.
Adam Curry: I prefer you to her as well. Dame Bay Area
wildfires. San Martin California 300 This is one of your dame's
de Bay Bay Area wildfire I donated to do a shout out to my
great friend Kristen on September 16. It's her birthday.
I promise I won't mention her age. We both live in that
wonderful sheep state California. I have to say this
is one of the bravest people I know we recently came back from
Las Vegas from jumping off the stratosphere a height of 856
feet straight down off of a zipline give this woman a
biscuit on her birthday always
Unknown: give me a biscuit on my birthday please Good day.
Adam Curry: It is biscuit day. Please from the both of you tell
her she's the best. You're the best. You guys best You guys are
amazing. Keep up your best work we always aim to please
John C Dvorak: Okay, you can get no
Adam Curry: no no you can get this one all right, y'all get
the no you know the reason is I
John C Dvorak: can't focus Yeah, the whole dog Doc's me bro.
Adam Curry: This is Renegades six and I have a note to go with
my switcheroo donation for my smokin hot S H K. What does that
sparkles of chaos. Oh, okay, actually. Luckily, we only have
to read the On Air note. We got all this but renegades, called
right Texas switcheroo donation for my smokin hot keeper sh K we
got it sparkles of chaos. So looting her pair of Crenshaw
melons and asking for some health karma. Can I please get
her a few bars of JC DS I've got ants. Yes, I can get you some
ants no problem. I love getting ants for melons and then old
Yellin karma thanks for all you do to break down the scams You
bet you.
John C Dvorak: Okay, so now we have the demo region, one meet
up report. On paper, we donation from the first semi annual FEMA
Region One back Backyard bonfire fire bash. It was a great
success all told, we had 14 people in attendance with no
repeats from the last meetup. I don't know if that's good or
bad. Maybe the next time we'll catch them all. Anyways, here's
some money Keep up the good work please group de Deus the
following people, Elise span, Isla Jacques DITA, Ivana Troy
and Sarah. Yes. This says Love you. Bye.
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Adam Curry: deuced Brian McCormack, Bel Air Maryland 250.
Adam and John, thank you so much for the greatest podcast in the
universe. Please find the 250 donated via PayPal. The donation
is honor of Karen McCormack my devastatingly cute wife and
retired COBOL programmer even says funny Cobalts but we got
you. We met in the real Motown aka Morgantown, West Virginia.
That's right Motown not far from Salem, in 1981. Please play
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karma as these are her favorites. Adam. Where can I
send the pepperoni rolls to do you have a preferred brand? Send
that to my Pio box, Pio box 1849 Fredericksburg, Texas 78642 But
John would also like some pepperoni rolls. So send them to
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Unknown: No trying don't trust China Chinese as you've got
karma.
John C Dvorak: By the way that guy did that. To thing call out.
Yeah, he's dead. No, he's
Adam Curry: dead. Yeah, they
John C Dvorak: found him and shot him in the head. Are you
kidding me? I'm just okay. Seems like he should be no Linda Lou
patcon in Lakewood, Colorado is up for her. I'm back for round
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Adam Curry: that's not a makeup. She never she never you know
something was wrong with the with the Pay Pal export on show
at eight I think. And a couple of donations got dropped and
hers was dropped. I don't think she's broken her streak. I
believe
John C Dvorak: well assume she hasn't because she says she has
in there's no reason to. Back keenly. She's got some person in
the office. They're just sending this in every week.
Adam Curry: Where we show Dame Valerie. Dane Beth is every
show. Every show. Every show every single show Dane Beth as
our final Associate Executive producer from Tucson, Arizona,
Ohio boys will how to you comrade, time for another two
hot Tucson meetup Thursday September 21. from four to seven
at crime canyons crown. Join us for libations and laughter No
jingles no karma. Just good vibes from Dane Beth and these
are our executive and Associate Executive producers for episode
1590 10 More until the big 1600 Then we'll also be celebrating
our 60th anniversary in that same week more than likely. And
these are credits that you can cherish and keep with you for a
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Executive producers of the best podcast in the universe. If
you'd like to become one go here. for.org/and a John will
take us through to the 50s We'll get to our meetups and nice
things and birthdays and we have lots of
John C Dvorak: students or be Michael de Morinville in Nevada
City, California. 150 dot 51 price should be called a redneck
hippie Melissa Reeve in Winchester, Virginia 106 or
Stephen in Meridian, Idaho $100.33 with a birthday call
coming. Mary Ellen Smith and Stuart Florida 100 Melissa Reeve
in Winchester, Virginia 100 John Mudge in Denver, Colorado 100
Cindy horn Meyer in Rancho Sangam Santa Margarita,
California 9457 with a said for Tet for husband Ted and his
Birthday Sir Paul in Twickenham, Middlesex, UK 808 and G He's got
his love of his life Ellie on the birthday list to Kevin
McLaughlin Concord, North Carolina 808 This is the boob
donation but it's for melons, Valencia melons Verlet or
Valencia Valencia melons. There'll be today's melon of the
day for 808. Also Michael Myers in Mandeville, Louisiana. 808
David Jarman in Northwest Territories Australia, New South
Wales, Australia, sorry, Northwest Territories Canada.
The Powerball ball number 72. So my donation is $72.
Adam Curry: Nice. Good one Powerball numbers were Amer in
for excuse me jump. Today's Powerball number is 5000.
John C Dvorak: There's no such thing. Hello, David Raymer in
Stamford, Connecticut, six 969 You guys can decode that for
whatever, however you want. This is bringing him in a knighthood
for his 69th birthday. I don't know that he's on the birthday
list. I like to be known as Sir chef sir. Sir chef, sir. I'm not
sure. But the point is there. I've been listening and
contributing $11.11 a month since 2015. He's,
Adam Curry: he's on the birthday list and on the 90
John C Dvorak: to 9099. Excellent. What is that? It's a
burgundy. And 9099 is a tremendous year. Oh,
Adam Curry: I'm so impressed.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. A chaise Oh, machine. Is your numbers.
Your name is Shane
Adam Curry: vezo. Recommended by Lizzo
John C Dvorak: Theodorus. Could you check him out and see if
make sure he's on the birthday list just to make sure what the
adores Theodorus No, no, David Raymer.
Adam Curry: But just said he's on the birthday list. You don't
like me here?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I'm reading ahead. Yeah, did our kazimier a
kazimier or kazimier? Something like that. And he's in E S,
which is a Spain he's in Spain. Tenerife isn't Tenerife. 6969
Happy birthday, Adam. I know the feeling. My birthday is July 13.
We put John birthday. We did William Wilde in Baltimore,
Maryland. 6969 Jackson Jetty August Alexander von popple. In
Norway 6969 We'll give you some house selling karma at the end
John Bigelow 6789.
Adam Curry: Missing he was missing from the 1588
spreadsheets. Oh, thank you. He donated again, the word maybe
this is a mate. Good. Whatever it is. Thank you, John.
John C Dvorak: We're happy whatever it is. Sir Doherty in
Stephens City, Virginia. 6543, which is a good one. He's got a
birthday coming up. Jake's are not Jake Edward abala 6126 is
the other 1588 Missing donation. Dame Tara in Urbana, Illinois.
6033. Christopher Walker in Monticello. Minnesota needs a de
douche.
Unknown: You've been de deuced
John C Dvorak: became me with small boobs donation is 606. And
so did Kevin McLaughlin in Concord, North Carolina. With
606 Promoting golden prize melons. Golden prize. I think
I've had this melon. It's a beauty. I love those 606 Julie
Shepherd 606 And she wants to de douching for her husband on her
seventh anniversary and
Adam Curry: they never had
Unknown: you've been de deuced
John C Dvorak: and now we have our favorite dimia Sir Michael
Anthony in Rosedale New York. 5959 He likes hearing his his
clips. You know, he does YouTube with a he looks a little bit
like the mayor got the same bald head and kind of we got a free
man shoe. Yes. We love him. Sir tooth Yeah. And more work. Wait,
he'll be
Adam Curry: appearing as the mayor. Comic Strip live in New
York City September 21. For a comedy fundraiser. All right.
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Unknown: Hey, this is spam and Thompson man with a meetup. I
don't remember the name of my meetup because I made it really
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Unknown: It's Sean here speaking from Union Taphouse in the
manioc neighborhood of Philadelphia. I don't think we
got any spooks here today. Hey, this is Brian in Philadelphia in
the morning
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my first meetup. And I look forward to the next one. I've
had a great time. And thanks very lovely guys.
Adam Curry: We actually had a little impromptu meet up here in
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John C Dvorak: Oh nice. Good to know.
Adam Curry: Yeah, exactly. So do you know if I if I get a bullet
wound? No problem. come directly to me. Thank you, brother.
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legend Brewing Company, Richmond, Virginia. It's a scam
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at Tufts group forum in Cincinnati, Ohio. The Red 33 Red
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Unknown: The Dyson days you won't be triggered. You will say
is like
Adam Curry: well, I guess we're both light on the ISOs today one
each one each. Oh yeah.
John C Dvorak: I'll play Okay. Well,
Adam Curry: I'll play yours first. Here we go. Have a great
day. What even was that? Have a great day. Have a great day
gaming? hanggang not a mine wins. Science is awesome. That
wins.
John C Dvorak: They both suck. Continuous stinks. Mine sucks a
little less than having seen we should play are we evergreen or
something? That thing is no good. An evergreen
Adam Curry: Who has ever heard of an ISO evergreen?
Unknown: Hmm, Nailed it. Nailed it.
How about that? No, I
John C Dvorak: don't want to play that again. We just played
it. Okay, well, let
Adam Curry: me go to the real evergreens. All right. Let's go
here. What do we have? Nope, nope. No, no, no, no. Oh, here's
one for you. Yes, my fat. No. Okay, so we have a winner
John C Dvorak: Wow. Needle before we wait, before we go to
tips. I gotta read a note that just came in from a woman
talking about her neighborhood library. So who do you give
candidate a bad time on a read? This is not good. Okay. Hello,
our neighborhood librarian Grandview view Missouri removed
everything published before nine 2005.
Adam Curry: Through what was what happened in 2008.
John C Dvorak: A few years ago, they quote unquote, donated it
to Amazon. Wow, I was so upset. I asked the librarian if there'd
be any classics left. She said Yeah, but only if it was an
edition published after 2005. When she goes home with a second
note. She gave me an example of not needing old editions of
textbooks. For example, I thought the library should be a
place where you could compare textbook changes throughout the
years. So many books we loved were gone. Great show today,
Crystal.
Adam Curry: Thank you, Crystal. I'm concerned. You know, we're
Cavalier. And we're kind of laughing about all this. I know
it. But yes, this is a real problem. And the taking what is
going on? Is Hitler coming back? What's going on? Taking books
out of the library, but before 2008? I need to know from any
Canada, Canadian librarian, anyone who knows why 2008? What
is the deal with that date?
John C Dvorak: And yeah, especially the candidate with
the 2005 is another date. Again, these are this is like 21st
century did you think the library the idea of a library is
to have stuff that you could go there that you normally can't
just get? Because it's new? If it's new, you just buy it from
Amazon?
Adam Curry: Yeah. I mean, it's not like we're talking about a
school library. This is just library. Yeah, this
John C Dvorak: is a real library. It's an
Adam Curry: actual library. I need to rely,
John C Dvorak: I think people should do people should get get
out of the house, and check their local library and ask
around about these these, these old books. I know. Some
libraries like my local library and University California
Library. When you go into the main areas, there'd be a big
pile of books that they're selling, they'll sell you books
for 50 cents or $1 of books are taken off the shelves. But in
the case of like the University of California, for example,
those books have all been scanned. They're all online.
Adam Curry: I have never boots on the ground report that is
troubling from Massachusetts. In the morning boys quick update
from the horrible state of Texas UCITS. My cousin is set to get
married over Columbus Day weekend. The groom's family is
from out of town and they rented two floors of a hotel so they
could all be together for the weekend. Governor Healy just
seized the hotel to house migrants. So they've lost their
reservations. There's nowhere else to say on top of it. All
the hotels that are housing migrants are having fires,
assaults, etc. It's a nightmare. Thank you for your courage,
Alex.
John C Dvorak: Tonight I think,
Unknown: man, that sucks.
Adam Curry: I mean, it's an outrage these this is
John C Dvorak: reading and they that is an outrage
Adam Curry: update from one of our many mail carriers as we've
learned throughout the years mail carriers who work for the
USPS. They love listening to podcasts, because that's what
you do when you're pushing around and delivering mail. Then
we know the main problems with their new fangled systems for
for pay last any end and this mail carrier sent me a copy of
his pay stub that says $0 last pay period 50% of carriers
reported not being paid correctly. Many had problems
with management's quick fix. money orders weren't being
recognized by banks and had delays or the wrong number of
values inputted, banks thought they were fake. this pay period
there were at least 15% reporting that this check is
missing. It goes back to my email about the union being mad
that the carrier's wanted to do a new union. Yet every day on
the scanners we use the USPS brags of record revenue profit.
And there's a non government strike clause which would send
employees to jail if they strike over being paid $0. But of
course late fees rack up for mortgage and credit cards, and
no one cares about our our mail carriers are in trouble.
John C Dvorak: They're trying to get rid of the United Postal
Service, the Zack Boehner the country that is in the
Constitution, one of the few things that is actually required
to be in existence, as opposed to the Department of Education,
as you mentioned earlier. And in fact, I do have some Vivec going
off the rails clips about hidden wanting to get rid of a bunch of
employees. And this is the most ludicrous commentary this night.
I mean, it's maybe you can get a vote or two. But this is a pipe
dream. But you have to listen to these VEC Ramaswamy clips.
Unknown: Republican presidential candidate Vivec Ramaswamy is
laying out his plan to cut the federal government and the loss
to back him up. He says hit Start by cutting federal
employees by 75% and shutting down several agencies.
Adam Curry: Wow. All right. Good. Hey, I'm all in on Bovec
now All right, make that happen. 5%. That's a that's a
John C Dvorak: really every one of these bullshit artists they
come in. They promised this that they don't cut it one person,
you can take that to the bank. Yeah, yeah, let's play that part
to
Unknown: people who we elect to run the government ought to be
the ones who actually run the government.
Speaking at the America First policy institute on Wednesday,
Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy said
the balance of power in America has changed over the years
three letter government agencies that wield the most political
power in the federal government, despite having the least
political accountability through unelected bureaucrats who have
no backstop of actually being accountable to the public.
And he laid forth his plans to restore the constitutional
republic taking aim at the size of the federal workforce as well
as certain government agencies. First, it will be
a plan that reduces the size of the Federal Employee headcount
by over 75%. If I'm the next President, by the end of my
first term, 50% of which is implementable by the end of year
one,
some would argue that the President doesn't have that
power. But Ramaswamy said, that's only a myth. And he read
from the 1977 Reorganization Act, which says the President
does indeed have that authority to reduce the
number of agencies by consolidating those having
similar functions under a single head and to abolish. That's not
my word. That is a word in the statute. To abolish such
agencies or functions thereof.
Ramaswamy said he'd start with the FBI and he cited information
about the bureau from the Pulitzer Prize winning book G
Man
the same one that used illegally collected tapes to threat
threaten Martin Luther King Jr. into committing suicide they
tried to do is now being used to target political opponents of a
different persuasion. Wow.
John C Dvorak: I know he's picked up the cadence of of a
southern preacher.
Adam Curry: Yes.
John C Dvorak: Have you noticed this? Yes.
Adam Curry: Good catch. Agree got
John C Dvorak: that that the very precise again, I use the
word precise pronunciation of certain words, ending with hard
sounds. And it just sounds like a preacher and he's getting it.
He's sounding more like a preacher than he's ever sounded
before. Especially in these clips. I think there's one left.
Yes, there is.
Unknown: And he explained what shutting down On the Bureau,
which has about 35,000 employees would look like
they're gonna go home when we shut it down and find honest
work in the private sector. But 15,000 of those employees are
going to be reorganized into the US Marshals into the Financial
Crimes Enforcement Network at the US Treasury into other parts
of the DEA that are taken on the drug enforcement that drug
enforcement problems that we have in this country.
He also said he had shut down the Department of Education.
This is an agency that spends approximately an $80 billion
budget per year telling local schools that they can't get
those federal funds unless they adopt toxic racial and gender
ideologies.
Some of the other departments Ramaswamy said he had shut down
or the ATF and the Nuclear Regulatory Commission
Adam Curry: ah, well at least he spicing things up. Well, I
John C Dvorak: swinging for the fences with this one.
Adam Curry: What does he remind him? What does he remind? He
kind of reminds me in a way he reminds me of somebody I can't
quite figure it out. He
John C Dvorak: reminds me of a number a number of southern
preachers. Well, yeah, there's that
Adam Curry: there's that that you know, Fredericksburg is
actually kind of interesting. They have we have a tax
increase. It's being voted on Tuesday a man people are gonna
go they're gonna go to the council meeting and
John C Dvorak: because the property tax
Adam Curry: Yeah, and it's it's tax. It's, well, you know, it's
property tax. It's supposed to be inflation plus increase in
population is way above that. And people are because I think
the main a big revenue source for people in Fredericksburg is
Bnbs. So they have a second home. And you know, they're
being priced out of it, of being able to provide that yes,
John C Dvorak: the desert that's not just Fredericksburg, believe
me. No,
Adam Curry: no, it's not but I live here. And it's fun to watch
because people are taking it to their city council and that's
that's what has to happen everywhere. You got to you got
to do local stuff. You know, instead of going on x and
complaining, complaining on X so fair, I don't like it is not
good. All right. Well, that was good. I don't I actually am out
of clips. I don't I mean, anything that's worthwhile
unless you got something that we
John C Dvorak: can like, get the clips about the White House
pushing back on the impeachment. We can talk about it all. Yeah,
I do have one clip. That's good. Okay. One just because this is a
galling clip. It turns out that Californians don't really want
to pay reparations to every black ex ajosh. You know, one
time slave. No, of course, California wasn't even a slave
state. But let's play the reparations clip.
Adam Curry: They all they went all in when it was you know,
virtue signaling. But now it's like, hey, let's have a vote.
Unknown: Most Californians are against cash reparations for
residents who are descended from slaves. A recent poll reveals
that conservatives are pretty united in the opposition, while
liberals are mixed entities. Aileen Aang has more.
According to a recent poll by UC Berkeley's Institute of
governmental studies are IGS. The majority of California
voters are opposed to cash reparations payments to black
residents. 59% of voters oppose the state reparations task force
recommendation to make cash payments to the descendants of
enslaved blacks currently living in California. Of those who
oppose 44% are strongly against the idea. Democrats and liberals
were divided while Republicans and conservatives were nearly
unanimous in their opposition. However, most voters agree that
the legacy of slavery is affecting the position of black
Californians. According to the IGs co-director While many can
empathize with the plight of black Americans. Not all of
these feelings will translate into support for policies that
address long standing racial harms. In 2020. Governor Gavin
Newsom created the nation's first reparations Task Force to
calculate the costs of slavery and racism and how to make up
two black Californians. In July the taskforce proposed over 100
recommendations and a 1000 page document. It also recommends the
state pay over 225 billion in reparations
John C Dvorak: oh that's the problem
Adam Curry: Oh virtue signaling all this hopefully
John C Dvorak: Why don't end it why don't the states that you
actually had slaves? I'm looking at you North Carolina. cough up
some dough. Why a weaves you stuck with the bill. That ain't
worried that's not flying.
Adam Curry: No, no, no, they're gonna start handing out money to
LGBTQ to spirit. That's the new voting blocks. That's the one go
24
John C Dvorak: Hey, what does the Two Spirit for shouldn't get
two checks to
Adam Curry: you get not only that they get two votes. Likely
that now there's something there's something your Two
Spirit you get to vote twice
John C Dvorak: as in California they've already been voting
twice.
Adam Curry: Yes, we know. DS last with Matty J coming up
along with Sir TJ the wrath bowl on our end of show mixes great
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John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where nobody
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Unknown: a hurry hurry in such
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Adam Curry: there's an uptick in COVID cases notice the language
Unknown: uptake man a virus goes round the outside round the
outside round the outside happening again oh no no no
COVID cases is forced man neighbor goes round the outside
round the outside round the outside
Adam Curry: to talk about optics it's not a surgery to obtain
guess what's BANG BANG BANG COVID BANG BANG BANG here is the
script I'm taking cases surges in cases who are getting quote
unquote sick dying of COVID Well let me put a mask on me like
want to combine vaccinate?
John C Dvorak: leads back to try to scam demic.
Adam Curry: tested positive because of course they're doing
what they're told to do like little drones and they are
testing maniacally with these at home damask tests. But who knows
this COVID or flu or RSV, or what used to happen we get the
back to school cold. Everybody had a
Unknown: like a scam. She's telling me they charged a scam
Adam Curry: MoPhO
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