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Adam Curry: You're boiling like
frogs. Adam curry Jhansi Devora

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Thursday July 27 2023. This is
your award winning combination

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media assassination episode
1576. This is no agenda. Ice

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cream, good leg leg broadcasting
live from the heart of the Texas

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Hill Country here at reason
number six in the morning,

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everybody. I'm Adam curry

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John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where you get a

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plea deal and you get a plea
deal. I'm John C. Dvorak,

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Adam Curry: Buzzkill.
distraction of the week.

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John C Dvorak: I thought the
flying saucer stuff was a

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distraction of the

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Adam Curry: week to double up to
double.

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John C Dvorak: Double duty off

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Adam Curry: double duty off
weeks. That's right, everybody.

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Yeah. Oh, man. I didn't even
know where to start with either

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one of these.

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John C Dvorak: Was this. I don't
have any clips whatsoever, even

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though there's a right one or
two. Yeah, I got a lot of flying

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saucers. And that's your beat.

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Adam Curry: All right. All
right, I can do it. Take it

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away. All right. So I need to
set this up for a moment. This

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is the same guy. grush grush, I
think is his name. Who is being

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billed in the media as a
whistleblower? Which he is not?

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He's not a whistleblower we
played that people

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John C Dvorak: know what a
whistleblower really is? Why

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don't you give us a little
explanation of what it was a

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whistleblower is somebody who
was in a company corporation or

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a government agency that sees
wrongdoing. And then despite the

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risks to his career, he blows
the whistle on the corruption,

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Adam Curry: right. So it's not a
guy who works for an

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intelligence agency and has been
given permission to speak about

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a whole bunch of things and
continuously talks about going

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into the skiff.

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John C Dvorak: He does. I didn't
drive.

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Adam Curry: Oh, man. So now, we
just saw

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John C Dvorak: this guy. Let me
just ask before you run it any

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clips not? Do they discuss it at
all? The Philip Corso book was

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off this thing. 920 years ago,
30 years ago? 40 years ago?

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Adam Curry: No, this is
something entirely different.

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This is this is an OP of a whole
different sort. It's easy to

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understand, I think was for me.
No, no, no, this is something

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Okay, let's get a little
background are from CBS News.

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spooky music.

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Unknown: Alien films are a
Hollywood staple. So perhaps no

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surprise.

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The American people deserve to
know what is happening in our

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skies.

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There was a line out the door
with people anxious for the

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government to share more about
UFOs

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and the Baptist Church we'd say
that the devils in our

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way. Former intelligence
officers David grush testified

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he suspects the Pentagon's
unidentified aerial phenomena or

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UAP office is covering up a
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retrieve crashed objects. Do you
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government is in possession of
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Absolutely based on interviewing
over 40 witnesses over four

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years,

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the Pentagon has denied crushes
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also recounted their close
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This object was estimated to be
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field.

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former military pilot David
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astonished by what he saw in the
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Now I think it's far beyond
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that we currently possess

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X Congress signal that will ask
federal agencies and the

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Pentagon to be more transparent.
Many people believe that we're

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withholding information from
them on any unexplained Aerial

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Phenomena incidents of which
there have been at least 366

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reported since early 2021. Do
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changed because of this?

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I think they will. When they say
this, they see those man they're

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not just some random people off
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Senators this week will consider
legislation requiring the

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National Archives to release
federal reports about UFOs

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arguing those mysterious items
in the sky JB are a danger to

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military aircraft and US
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Adam Curry: All the clues are in
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John C Dvorak: second bullet.
Did I hear right that he they

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report was David brush believes
he does believe he believes

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based on interviews with 40
people? Yes. So he never saw a

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craft? No. But we never saw an
alien thumb.

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Adam Curry: No, we knew all this
because that was we played his

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entire parent pertinent bits
from his news nation interview.

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The only one he did it wasn't
exclusive, you know, so that no

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one would watch it. Because this
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industrial complex. Boom. More
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John C Dvorak: Well, let's do
Yeah. Did they also say he is a

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corporate intelligence officer?

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Adam Curry: No. No, did they say
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John C Dvorak: said that they he
was incorporated as a corporate

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intelligence.

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Adam Curry: Former intelligence
officer Oh was former Okay, CIA.

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And in the news nation interview
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said I could talk. I mean, my
former former bosses said I

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could talk about this stuff.
John, whenever you get the

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Democrats and Republicans
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for military spending. That is
just the history. That's just

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the track record.

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John C Dvorak: I see.

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Adam Curry: And you heard it at
the end of that. CIA

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broadcasting systems clip here.
Listen to that,

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Unknown: guys to release federal
reports about UFOs arguing those

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mysterious items in the sky JB
are a danger to military

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aircraft or US security on the
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Adam Curry: danger to military
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ground. Yes. And we heard it's a
safety threat to nuclear

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national security. Going

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John C Dvorak: to ask another
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things have been spotted in the
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before that, to see how many
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or burned up or shut down or
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dangerous things flying around?
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say 1935.

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Adam Curry: I would be happy to
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you, Congressman, in the skiff.
That's basically how the whole

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anything that was going to be
good was in the skiff. Yes, in

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the skiff. All right, I just got
three clips. And you'll be

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you'll hear it, this is clearly
the next level of let's get some

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more money. We're running out of
money on this Ukraine Gambit.

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Let's get some money through
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Unknown: One point you said that
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activity or progressive
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activity in aggressive been
hostile to in your reports? I

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know of multiple colleagues of
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injured, and the activity by by
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federal government have. Okay,
so there has been activity by by

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alien or non non human
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has caused harm to humans. I
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an open environment. But he's
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Adam Curry: he's a
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into specifics, you know,
because I have clearances, you

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know, I got to be careful my
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Unknown: I can't get into the
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environment, but at least the
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witnessed, and I have to be
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tell me never to acknowledge
tradecraft, right. So

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Adam Curry: I've never
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you're a whistleblower, what's
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Unknown: And I have to be
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tell me never to acknowledge
tradecraft, right. So what I

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personally witnessed myself in
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Adam Curry: Oh, I'm so sorry.
You're so disturbed. This is a

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it's nothing that but there was
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because this word, this term
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think it's a junior, she's a
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her name? I can't remember the
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scripted, by the way, it's
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or they use this term which just
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Unknown: if you believe we have
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we have the bodies of the pilots
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As I've stated publicly already
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biologics came with some of
these recoveries

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Adam Curry: biologics. If you
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what biologics is biologics is
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system in the United States.
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classification of medication,
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in this context, I've thought
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I'm not I'm not sure why and you
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is biologics ever used with
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Unknown: stated publicly already
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biologics came with some of
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Adam Curry: maybe just some
vaccines. I don't know. I mean,

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he said he's not answering that
they weren't fired

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John C Dvorak: that batch of
SPIRE expired vaccine Derner

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Durness maybe they're in their
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Adam Curry: reading way too much
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answer that sounds like he means
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Unknown: As I've stated publicly
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interview biologics came with
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Were they, I guess, human or non
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Adam Curry: now I can be a
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Unknown: No. And that was the
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knowledge on the program. I
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Adam Curry: Oh, so he didn't see
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anything is people he talked to
who are still on the program

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Unknown: in was this documentary
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eyewitness like how would that
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Adam Curry: oh, because I'm a
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the skiff about that. This thing
was bull crap. Admit I'm telling

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you this is only about the the
next hearing which we'll have to

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have. Now we're going to bring
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agencies so they can start
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Unknown: So and you may or may
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question. And maybe we get into
a skiff at the next hearing that

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we have, but who in the
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sub agency, what contractors?
Who should be called into the

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next hearing about UAPs? Either
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private setting? And you
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what agencies or organizations,
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call in to get these questions
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funding, what programs are
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I can give you a specific,
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list of specific individuals
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can we get that list?

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I'm happy to provide that to
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Adam Curry: Right away. Let's
have lunch. I'm a whistleblower.

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John C Dvorak: How do you have
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a hostile witness list? I give
you a friendly and hostile

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witness list. This is the canal
Yeah, the name of your guy says

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you put me on your list man. I'm
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Adam Curry: I'm not gonna go get
it. It's all bull. This thing is

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the next and they will be a
public hearing and it's going to

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be more more of this. And it's
going to be you know, we need to

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we need special stuff for to
protect ourselves in case there

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are hostile biologics you know,
we just need some we need some

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biologics anti biologics. Come
on. Stop this is insulting.

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John C Dvorak: If you wouldn't
you wouldn't be so insulted if

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they let you in the skiff

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Adam Curry: Well yeah, I mean if
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I'm good to go. Okay, now now
I've got you

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John C Dvorak: know I reminded
it with this Skiff is the dome

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of silence from the old Get
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Adam Curry: was the donor cone.

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John C Dvorak: I think we should
call it I think it might have

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been cone of silence cone of
silence and it dropped down.

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They couldn't hear each other
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Adam Curry: Oh, goodness. All
right. Now we've got to get to

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would be ABC This Week as
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Washington. Now, Mimi lives up
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there? Is there something going
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it the worst? Is that something
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John C Dvorak: brain like a son
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Adam Curry: that's not much
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this is this. I mean, I only
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from about this climate change
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Unknown: We're joined now by
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for joining us. How much do you
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Adam Curry: He's a leading
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John C Dvorak: All I know is he
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he said when I'm elected his
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a climate emergency. Wow. Okay,
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Unknown: Action. Governor,
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do you think climate change is
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Adam Curry: for all the fires
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Adam Curry: It works so well
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just going to bring it back and
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the way, this is what
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age, this is the age of
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change was coming for us. But
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memory of this situation with
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telling us now is that the earth
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Adam Curry: which one of these
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John C Dvorak: say to the oceans
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Adam Curry: would that didn't
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not catchy enough. Maybe if they
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Consulting Group, we could come
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Adam Curry: an ideation session
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the situation. I talked to a
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the other day, who told me that
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to us. But it's happening to us
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we really thought could be in
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Adam Curry: their predictions
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gave us more time they lied,
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possible, you know, on Wall
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predict numbers, and your
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actually seen long term as a
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CFO. Oh, no, you have to

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Adam Curry: it. Yeah, you can be
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it's gonna be better than

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John C Dvorak: speaking, the
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Adam Curry: Yeah. And then Nayla
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John C Dvorak: And then they go,
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Adam Curry: exactly. So it's not
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fantastic for any scientists,
leading climate scientists to

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say, Oh, we screwed up. It's 20
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screwing up. Yeah, that mean,
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Unknown: could be in the realm
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we're flying our transportation
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homes. This is a solvable
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using fossil fuels. Okay, that
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massive assault on humanity

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Adam Curry: as massive assault
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this is kind of the same message
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what some of these, what kind of
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this, what are meaningful
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John C Dvorak: Martha read
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Adam Curry: Well, this is no
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being on television is not that
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where people go to die. Yeah,
look at Andrea Mitchell can be

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we're not going to be selling
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couple decades were accurate.
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this is not just something for
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can act. Yes, our state is
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US climate Alliance and this is
necessary. We've had tremendous

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action under President Biden's
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Reduction Act. Unfortunately,
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repeal that now. But we need to
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can go further and faster and we
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good news is all around my
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without seeing new jobs
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Adam Curry: Clean aviation fuel,
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that no one's gonna use. They
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benefits from from the from that
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proportions. Turn over a rock.

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John C Dvorak: Well use it under
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Unknown: Again, the good news is
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turn over a rock without seeing
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aviation fuel with new types of
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Adam Curry: Oh, oh, the new
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John C Dvorak: Oh yeah. New
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batteries from the great
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foundry. Talking about there's
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Adam Curry: haven't looked under
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Unknown: of batteries. It's very
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now in inventing a new economy
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Washington State and people get
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there's two parts to this story.
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consequences the bomb has gone
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to restrict fossil fuels if
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need to and I'm glad Governor
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Adam Curry: So what I'm what I
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some more that inflation
Reduction Act money Yeah,

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because it would turn over rocks
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expensive fuel that no one's
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Unknown: Governor governor on
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the lens here. You heard John
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watermelon every step for
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acting alone but acting all
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rest of the world to do what we
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this battle. That really isn't
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Adam Curry: a battle. They
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John C Dvorak: we need to do,
actually, you know, they think

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that's better. Yeah, but
messaging Climate War. Climate

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Adam Curry: we much better. I
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fight wars, climate wars, war on
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John C Dvorak: can see the war
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I'm at war. I'm at war. Yeah,
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Unknown: to push the rest of the
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to win this battle. That really
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China. Not yet. But time is
running out. Bomb is already

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Adam Curry: These metaphors are
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Climate War The bomb is already
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that kind of gives you a vibe
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Exactly. Exactly. What do you
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what your state is doing what
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this is a worldwide problem.

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You lead you tell your kids to
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summer camp you say lead and the
United States should be an is

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the leader in them

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Adam Curry: it is you telling
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John C Dvorak: I'll lead you to
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the counselor and leave me

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Unknown: you need to tell your
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to summer camp, you say lead the
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Adam Curry: This is the dumbest
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send your kids to summer camp,
summer's over, okay, you lead

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and people are coming along we
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not just from a moral
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interest standpoint, we need to
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these economies here these
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coming in throughout the
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had him. But is he talking about
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in the Midwest United States
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belt of of new innovation. So
this is a self interest.

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John C Dvorak: There's a catchy
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development of new innovation.

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United States into the silicon
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innovations. So this is a self
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and we're certainly committed to
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Adam Curry: A belt is such a bad
name. Can you think of getting

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beat with the belt tightening
the belts on fat you know all

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the belt is not a good image bad
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Unknown: and again if you want
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Washington State and what we're
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know, the largest fuel cell in
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trunk

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Adam Curry: that building the
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John C Dvorak: What is he
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it is Genet Look at the size of
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the largest fuel cell in the
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in the world. Gov

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Adam Curry: the largest truck in
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John C Dvorak: on the largest
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basically should be in that
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Adam Curry: Basically the truck
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drives on it Wow, useful truck.

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Unknown: And what we're doing
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largest fuel cell in the world
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the world, Governor new kinds of
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Adam Curry: New kinds of
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largest ball of stress he

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John C Dvorak: fully ships or
what I mean, what kinds of

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batteries were inventing here.
Where's this happening? I have

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not

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Adam Curry: heard of this.
Hello. It's in the belt of

457
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innovation.

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John C Dvorak: Well, that's no
that's in the Midwest. He's

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talking about Washington.

460
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Adam Curry: Now they've got the
largest ball of string.

461
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John C Dvorak: Well, that is a
fact. Here it is. The largest

462
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bunch of bullcrap. And so far as
their elections are concerned,

463
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it's all mail in ballots is
completely corrupt. This guy

464
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wouldn't be governor anywhere.
If it wasn't for some machine

465
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they've got set up. That gives
him phony votes. Finally,

466
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DeCicco it's a horrible place.
final clip.

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Unknown: Governor, you have just
quickly if you can, you know,

468
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you have candidates out there
like Donald Trump, who mocked

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the idea of climate change. And
there are a vast number of

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Americans who ignore it, don't
care about it, or don't believe

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it, how, oh,

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Adam Curry: that's us. Ah, we're
gonna get some wisdom, some

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words of wisdom from God who

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Unknown: cares about it? Or
don't? How do you convince those

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people? It's time to care.

476
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Adam Curry: Okay, now, how? What
would convince you what would

477
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convince me what would convince
us

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John C Dvorak: actuals tax after
scientific debate that actually

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result in some sort of
conclusion, which will never

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happen? Some real, some real No.
Such a situation where they're

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not fudging numbers for years on
end, and then going oops, or

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we're sorry, fudge that number.
I don't look over here. With all

483
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that ends, maybe I would be
might be convinced is some is

484
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that possible?

485
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Adam Curry: And I should say
that this is all coming on the

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heels of a report. And we talked
about I think, on the last show,

487
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the world weather attribution
Institute, which is new. Well,

488
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it's actually it's part of the
Imperial Institute now. Used to

489
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be a Dutch guy. Yeah, yeah. The
ones who

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John C Dvorak: are the guys who
predicted that everyone would

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die from COVID. Those guys those
guys

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Adam Curry: Exactly. And I
looked up their methods, their

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methods by analyzing this the
hottest ever we're all gonna die

494
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is analyzing observed real world
weather data collected from

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weather stations in the study
region, researchers can find out

496
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how unlikely the extreme weather
event is and identify any trends

497
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in the intensity of similar
events. This is interesting.

498
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analysis can determine how
frequently weather events,

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they're all it's all whether or
not it used to be a climate is

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not weather, but it is now how
frequently weather events have a

501
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similar intensity would have
been expected to occur before

502
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humans started burning fossil
fuels in the late 1800s. Which,

503
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which means the researchers can
calculate the difference in the

504
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probability of an event
occurring in the late 1800s.

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Compared to the probability of
an event occurring today. The

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study uses computer modeling to
isolate the role of human to try

507
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it even says it says to try to
isolate the role of human

508
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induced climate change in that
event.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, like stock
market analysis is so simple to

510
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take and come up with a formula
that will predict the price of a

511
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stock and then then retro
actively push it into the 1900s

512
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that say the 1930s and then
track the stock run the model.

513
00:28:01,050 --> 00:28:04,770
Oh, look, it went up. That means
it'll do that forever. Never

514
00:28:04,770 --> 00:28:05,430
works.

515
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Adam Curry: Yes, Bollinger
Bands, basically, research,

516
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researchers use modeling that
simulates the likelihood and

517
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intensity of the weather event
in two worlds. Today's world

518
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with 1.2 degrees centigrade of
human induced global warning,

519
00:28:20,250 --> 00:28:24,570
warming, and a hypothetical
world without human caused

520
00:28:24,570 --> 00:28:28,500
climate change. Researchers then
compare the results to find out

521
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if climate change made the event
more or less likely and intense.

522
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This is, this is what they're
going on. Which is bizarre,

523
00:28:40,050 --> 00:28:41,940
right? Let's listen to his
convincing words.

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Unknown: Well, we can't wait for
Donald Trump to figure this out.

525
00:28:46,650 --> 00:28:51,900
Oh, I'm convinced. We don't have
time to mess around to wait for

526
00:28:51,900 --> 00:28:54,420
this knucklehead to figure this
out.

527
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Adam Curry: Is this a solution,
but not waiting for

528
00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:59,250
knuckleheads?

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Unknown: We just got to make
sure he's not an office. Oh.

530
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,170
Adam Curry: Don't vote for
Trump. And then we'll be saying

531
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this

532
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,220
John C Dvorak: thing is about.
Don't vote for John vote

533
00:29:11,220 --> 00:29:13,650
Unknown: for Trump. And the way
we do this is vote against

534
00:29:13,650 --> 00:29:18,180
climate deniers vote against
people who refuse to assist this

535
00:29:18,180 --> 00:29:23,220
moral and economic crisis that
we have. You can't wait for

536
00:29:23,220 --> 00:29:25,950
these folks. You just got to
make sure they're not an office

537
00:29:25,950 --> 00:29:29,130
where they can do damage. Go off
and play golf.

538
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,920
Adam Curry: Remember the
remember the question was how do

539
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,620
we bring people together? How do
we convince them it's time by

540
00:29:34,620 --> 00:29:37,710
telling them they're idiots
don't vote for the knucklehead

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Unknown: will solve this
problem. It's a solvable

542
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,890
problem. Vote for me if we work
together, and people are coming

543
00:29:43,890 --> 00:29:46,500
around to this very, very
rapidly because their homes are

544
00:29:46,500 --> 00:29:50,010
burning down. You're choking on
smoke from the Canadian fires

545
00:29:50,010 --> 00:29:50,370
Jochen

546
00:29:50,370 --> 00:29:54,900
Adam Curry: on smoke, for which
is all climate change related

547
00:29:54,900 --> 00:29:57,690
mind you? I'm sorry.

548
00:29:58,800 --> 00:29:59,970
John C Dvorak: Sucking on soot.

549
00:30:00,269 --> 00:30:03,479
Unknown: both from the Canadian
fires when Ron DeSantis wants to

550
00:30:03,479 --> 00:30:06,599
go swimming he can't because the
water is like a sauna like a hot

551
00:30:06,599 --> 00:30:08,579
tub off his beaches.

552
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:15,420
Adam Curry: Or the Florida
waters like a sauna. Like a like

553
00:30:15,420 --> 00:30:17,070
a hot tub. Is that true?

554
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,510
John C Dvorak: Well, the ocean
temperatures are on 90. That's

555
00:30:21,510 --> 00:30:24,780
not a sauna. No, I think it's
Saunas are pretty high.

556
00:30:25,469 --> 00:30:28,679
Adam Curry: That's not a hot
tub. My pool. unheated here in

557
00:30:28,679 --> 00:30:33,479
Texas is almost 98 degrees.
unheated? Yeah, it's not a

558
00:30:33,479 --> 00:30:37,679
sauna. I got small pool. It's
not a sauna. It's not a hot tub.

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I don't think the oceans are
like saunas and hot tubs. The

560
00:30:41,909 --> 00:30:45,959
oceans are boiling. But it's Ron
DeSantis. So don't vote for him

561
00:30:45,989 --> 00:30:46,499
either.

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Unknown: You're choking on smoke
from the Canadian fires. When

563
00:30:49,530 --> 00:30:52,440
Ron DeSantis don't vote for
Canadians twice to go swimming

564
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can't because the water is like
a sauna like a hot tub off his

565
00:30:55,980 --> 00:30:58,920
beaches. We just got to make
sure that those folks are not in

566
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:03,150
office. We don't have the luxury
of allowing these people to

567
00:31:03,180 --> 00:31:04,170
destroy the planet.

568
00:31:05,130 --> 00:31:06,810
John C Dvorak: You have to
destroy your cities with

569
00:31:06,810 --> 00:31:08,100
homelessness instead.

570
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Unknown: Man oh man, where

571
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Adam Curry: was the message
here? This song? Oh, not that

572
00:31:15,870 --> 00:31:19,950
one. That's too long. Of a small
one. I thought a short second on

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second on set. Yeah.

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Go ahead. Suck it in.

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Second, as right. All right. So
where does this all come from?

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As I mentioned, the elite
messaging machine, it's coming

577
00:31:45,630 --> 00:31:48,510
from the top. It's always comes
from the top. This is the

578
00:31:48,510 --> 00:31:52,440
message across the elite
universe. We're going to be

579
00:31:52,590 --> 00:31:55,320
beaten to death with it. That's
how we're going to die. Not from

580
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,230
climate change. But from just
not being just being beaten over

581
00:31:58,230 --> 00:32:02,610
the head with this message over
and over and over again. Because

582
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,120
it's warm. It's a summer and
there's some fires.

583
00:32:06,150 --> 00:32:11,010
John C Dvorak: Summer is still
no is summer in his hot. Go

584
00:32:11,010 --> 00:32:11,700
figure.

585
00:32:11,730 --> 00:32:13,050
Adam Curry: So this morning,

586
00:32:13,110 --> 00:32:14,700
John C Dvorak: by the way is not
hot here.

587
00:32:14,910 --> 00:32:19,170
Adam Curry: No. And here, it's
what are we at now? We're not

588
00:32:19,170 --> 00:32:25,230
even 100 Most days now,
whatever. This morning live

589
00:32:25,230 --> 00:32:29,790
conference in English and French
from the UN Secretary General

590
00:32:29,820 --> 00:32:36,270
got that us. And he he has had a
conversation he has he has come

591
00:32:36,270 --> 00:32:40,740
up with a new term that might
actually it's a throwback, it's

592
00:32:40,740 --> 00:32:45,030
kind of a retro term. And he's
got a few other gems. I only got

593
00:32:45,030 --> 00:32:48,810
the first couple of minutes of
it as you lay down the land and

594
00:32:48,810 --> 00:32:51,420
then of course it went into we
need more money. We need more

595
00:32:51,420 --> 00:32:52,830
money. Got to spend money.

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Unknown: Good morning. Good
morning. Humanity is in the hot

597
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seat.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, humanity is in
the hot seat. What an opening

599
00:33:03,509 --> 00:33:05,369
Good job Secretary General

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Unknown: today dueled with your
logical organization and the

601
00:33:08,759 --> 00:33:12,419
European Commission's Copernicus
climate change Service

602
00:33:12,990 --> 00:33:14,730
Adam Curry: released this a
service you can get climate

603
00:33:14,730 --> 00:33:15,360
change from

604
00:33:15,389 --> 00:33:20,309
Unknown: single official data
that confirms that July 2023, is

605
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said to be the hottest month
ever recorded in human history.

606
00:33:24,210 --> 00:33:27,030
Adam Curry: So okay, can we just
call that bull crap?

607
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,710
John C Dvorak: That to listen to
this, by the way, the local

608
00:33:31,710 --> 00:33:36,840
news, they're dropping some
gems, but one guy said to start,

609
00:33:36,870 --> 00:33:43,200
it's going to be the hottest in
over 100,000 years as if anyone

610
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,070
had a clue.

611
00:33:46,050 --> 00:33:48,120
Adam Curry: It's the hottest
ever since humans have been

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around? Yes, yes. Yes. We

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Unknown: don't have to wait for
the end of demands to know this.

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Short to the medium.

615
00:34:02,790 --> 00:34:06,930
Adam Curry: Yes, we already know
it doesn't matter. He's gonna

616
00:34:06,930 --> 00:34:09,690
say it's just gonna be the
hottest month on record ever

617
00:34:09,690 --> 00:34:12,480
since human beings have walked
the earth unless there's a mini

618
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,090
eight a ice age that pops up all
of a sudden

619
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Unknown: for the end of the
month. To know this short mini

620
00:34:20,819 --> 00:34:26,429
ice age over the next days, July
2023. We will share the records

621
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across the board. According to
the data released today, July

622
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has already seen the hottest
three week period over ever

623
00:34:34,529 --> 00:34:38,789
recorded ever the sea otters
days on records and the highest

624
00:34:38,819 --> 00:34:42,419
ever ocean temperatures for this
time of year. It's a hot tub.

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The consequences are clear, and
they are tragic. Children swept

626
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away by monsoon rains.

627
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Adam Curry: Children are being
swept away by monsoon rains.

628
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,839
Unknown: Families learning from
the flames you run

629
00:34:59,460 --> 00:35:00,270
John C Dvorak: on fire are

630
00:35:01,589 --> 00:35:04,409
Unknown: workers collapsing in
scorching heat?

631
00:35:04,679 --> 00:35:06,329
Adam Curry: Well, they're
collapsing on the on the

632
00:35:06,329 --> 00:35:10,289
basketball court on ESPN the
collapsing everywhere. But yeah,

633
00:35:10,289 --> 00:35:11,129
I guess from the heat

634
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Unknown: for vast parts of North
America, Asia, Africa and

635
00:35:14,519 --> 00:35:16,169
Europe, it's a Cruel Summer

636
00:35:16,199 --> 00:35:20,249
Adam Curry: grow at this song.
It's a cruel, cruel summer

637
00:35:20,759 --> 00:35:25,259
Unknown: for the entire planet.
It is a disaster. And for

638
00:35:25,259 --> 00:35:30,569
scientists, it is unequivocal.
Humans are to blame. All these

639
00:35:30,569 --> 00:35:33,059
is entirely consistent with
predictions.

640
00:35:34,530 --> 00:35:37,950
Adam Curry: No, no, no, no, you
gotta listen to the guy. He is

641
00:35:38,010 --> 00:35:40,680
this. This is where the money is
being requested

642
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,630
John C Dvorak: might as well be
on the view.

643
00:35:44,700 --> 00:35:48,900
Unknown: For the entire planet,
it is a disaster disaster. And

644
00:35:48,900 --> 00:35:52,740
for scientists, it is
unequivocal. Humans aren't to

645
00:35:52,740 --> 00:35:57,030
blame bastards. All these is
entirely consistent with

646
00:35:57,030 --> 00:36:01,530
predictions and repeated
warnings. The only surprise is

647
00:36:01,530 --> 00:36:06,690
the spills of the change.
Climate change is zero. It is

648
00:36:06,690 --> 00:36:09,570
terrifying. And it is just the
beginning.

649
00:36:11,790 --> 00:36:14,670
Adam Curry: It is terrifying and
it is just the beginning.

650
00:36:15,420 --> 00:36:17,640
Unknown: The era of global
warming right

651
00:36:17,670 --> 00:36:18,900
John C Dvorak: now just keep
going right

652
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,750
Adam Curry: now. This is this is
his new this is his new, his new

653
00:36:21,750 --> 00:36:23,520
slogan. Here's the retro slogan.

654
00:36:24,090 --> 00:36:28,590
Unknown: The EDA of global
warming has ended the area of

655
00:36:28,590 --> 00:36:31,290
global Boiling Boiling

656
00:36:33,030 --> 00:36:35,790
John C Dvorak: Well, you know he
may be on to something with the

657
00:36:35,790 --> 00:36:41,310
global boiling because there's a
there's a here's a news reporter

658
00:36:41,310 --> 00:36:44,550
reading right from the screen
about the hot temperatures in

659
00:36:44,550 --> 00:36:49,080
Texas. Hold on a second. Do you
have this? Yeah, hot temps

660
00:36:51,690 --> 00:36:52,890
Adam Curry: Oh hot temps Okay,

661
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,340
Unknown: Terrell ended Dallas
your your heat index is 107.

662
00:36:56,580 --> 00:37:00,180
Every one in McKinney is dead.
The temperature. The heat index

663
00:37:00,180 --> 00:37:06,270
right now in McKinney is
10,000 101,105. It's hot in

664
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McKinney.

665
00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:10,530
Adam Curry: Yeah, I had this
clip but I felt it worked better

666
00:37:10,530 --> 00:37:15,150
with with the visual but it fits
in well here with the glade so

667
00:37:15,210 --> 00:37:19,290
but remember, it was global
warming, then it was climate

668
00:37:19,290 --> 00:37:21,870
change because it wasn't really
warming and started to get

669
00:37:21,870 --> 00:37:25,590
cooler. We must remember these
things. Because that was the big

670
00:37:25,590 --> 00:37:29,280
joke. This all started around
the same time the no agenda show

671
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,750
started with the global warming
with Al Gore's Inconvenient

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Truth. Remember, there will be
no more polar bears. Now it's

673
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,660
like the things are everywhere.
Like the didn't know they're a

674
00:37:42,660 --> 00:37:46,110
plague. But you put them on a on
a sheet of ice floating around

675
00:37:46,110 --> 00:37:49,830
and put some blues music under
it. Yeah, so the polar bear is

676
00:37:49,830 --> 00:37:54,600
now a plague. So he's going into
we had the the climate change,

677
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but that it's just not working.
You know? And then and they made

678
00:37:57,450 --> 00:37:59,940
the mistake of saying weather's
not climate and now they're

679
00:37:59,940 --> 00:38:03,270
trying to desperately say well,
extreme weather events. Yeah,

680
00:38:03,270 --> 00:38:06,060
that's climate. And now he's
thinking, you know, you'll know

681
00:38:06,060 --> 00:38:10,290
about I go back, I go back and I
take the global bombing and I

682
00:38:10,290 --> 00:38:14,490
make it global boiling, boiling.
You're boiling like frogs.

683
00:38:15,180 --> 00:38:19,080
Unknown: The era of global
warming has ended the area that

684
00:38:19,110 --> 00:38:19,740
hit me

685
00:38:19,740 --> 00:38:22,770
Adam Curry: flubs the line to
which is must urge him to no end

686
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,420
because it's probably his idea

687
00:38:24,779 --> 00:38:29,699
Unknown: of global warming has
ended the area of global boiling

688
00:38:29,849 --> 00:38:35,219
as arrived. The air is
unbelievable. The heat is

689
00:38:35,219 --> 00:38:38,969
unbearable. And the level of
fossil fuel profits and climate

690
00:38:38,969 --> 00:38:45,629
inaction is unacceptable.
Leaders must live no more

691
00:38:45,659 --> 00:38:48,599
exigency no more excuses.

692
00:38:48,630 --> 00:38:51,450
Adam Curry: Do you hear that you
hear the similarity in the

693
00:38:51,450 --> 00:38:56,070
language with Governor Inslee
leaders must lead you have to be

694
00:38:56,070 --> 00:38:59,820
tell your kids at summer camp to
lead leaders must lead okay,

695
00:38:59,820 --> 00:39:00,330
this

696
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:07,020
Unknown: must leads no more s&c
as no more excuses No more

697
00:39:07,020 --> 00:39:11,100
waiting for the others to move
first. There is simply no more

698
00:39:11,100 --> 00:39:15,240
time for that no more. It is
still possible to meet Oh limit

699
00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:18,930
global temperature rise to 1.5
degrees Celsius. Why?

700
00:39:21,030 --> 00:39:25,470
Adam Curry: Because if you spend
some money, we got some money

701
00:39:25,470 --> 00:39:26,850
then it's still possible.

702
00:39:26,970 --> 00:39:30,060
Unknown: It is still possible to
meet to limit global temperature

703
00:39:30,060 --> 00:39:34,680
rise to 1.5 degrees Celsius and
avoid the very worst of climate

704
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:39,300
change but only with dramatic
immediate climate action

705
00:39:39,420 --> 00:39:42,630
Adam Curry: and climate action
equals dolla Dolla dolla give me

706
00:39:42,630 --> 00:39:45,810
another dollar. Okay, so that's
been that's the message you

707
00:39:45,810 --> 00:39:48,510
gotta lead. You got to spend
some money. We're all gonna die.

708
00:39:48,510 --> 00:39:51,870
It's global boiling. Of course
we're doing lots of things. We

709
00:39:51,870 --> 00:39:56,040
have like global boiling by the
way. You think it's you think

710
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,840
that's going to work? No.

711
00:39:58,620 --> 00:40:00,750
John C Dvorak: I just like it
personally. think is funny?

712
00:40:02,310 --> 00:40:05,100
Adam Curry: Well, it is kind of
the you know, the the oceans are

713
00:40:05,100 --> 00:40:08,340
boiling. We're all boiling.
We're like frogs. It could it

714
00:40:08,340 --> 00:40:11,490
could get legs, we'll see. But
of course we've done lots of

715
00:40:11,490 --> 00:40:14,310
things already. You know, we've
got great windmill farms,

716
00:40:14,310 --> 00:40:21,120
ruining our beaches. We've got
pass on the panels that only

717
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,900
work when their son, obviously
expensive break often and don't

718
00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:29,040
really don't really make a
difference. We've got electric

719
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,820
vehicles, electric vehicles
being great. The problem is, you

720
00:40:32,820 --> 00:40:35,730
know, those new batteries that
that we're making in Washington

721
00:40:35,730 --> 00:40:38,370
when you lift up a rock, you
know, they seem to be pretty

722
00:40:38,370 --> 00:40:43,050
unstable. I think there's been
50 fires in New York City alone

723
00:40:43,050 --> 00:40:45,600
from E bikes. This year,

724
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,810
John C Dvorak: I had a whole
ebike story that we never played

725
00:40:48,810 --> 00:40:50,760
that there was clips. It's kind
of funny.

726
00:40:50,850 --> 00:40:53,610
Adam Curry: Well, before we go
before we go there,

727
00:40:53,670 --> 00:40:56,730
John C Dvorak: but there was you
got a toggle about the ship.

728
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:57,540
Yes.

729
00:40:57,810 --> 00:41:01,320
Unknown: A cargo ship loaded
with nearly 3000 vehicles is

730
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,650
burning off the northern coast
of the Netherlands. one crew

731
00:41:04,650 --> 00:41:08,250
member was killed and several
others were injured. Boats and

732
00:41:08,250 --> 00:41:11,550
helicopters were used to get the
nearly two dozen crew members to

733
00:41:11,550 --> 00:41:15,150
safety. The Dutch coast guard is
trying to keep the ship from

734
00:41:15,150 --> 00:41:18,900
sinking near a habitat for
migratory birds. So

735
00:41:18,930 --> 00:41:22,620
Adam Curry: this story
obfuscates many other boring

736
00:41:22,620 --> 00:41:25,710
stories to talk about the
electric vehicles that are on

737
00:41:25,710 --> 00:41:29,460
board from Volkswagen. The
hybrids and they're the and that

738
00:41:29,460 --> 00:41:33,150
caught off it went so fast as
fire did one guy died they would

739
00:41:33,150 --> 00:41:36,450
jump 11 people jumped I was
watching some Dutch news 11

740
00:41:36,450 --> 00:41:39,660
people jumped overboard or all
but the habitat for the birds

741
00:41:39,780 --> 00:41:41,730
this they're not going to put it
out this

742
00:41:42,629 --> 00:41:45,059
John C Dvorak: is called the
light day angle the habitat for

743
00:41:45,059 --> 00:41:47,519
the work save the birds

744
00:41:47,550 --> 00:41:50,850
Adam Curry: don't look at that.
Now. I had this clip on the last

745
00:41:50,850 --> 00:41:53,310
show we didn't get to play it
this is up in your neck of the

746
00:41:53,310 --> 00:41:57,660
woods. Now there is some other
technology as we move away away

747
00:41:57,660 --> 00:42:03,330
from the inherently unstable
lithium ion batteries that just

748
00:42:03,540 --> 00:42:06,570
man your bump your mass bumping
that crazy no I'm

749
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:11,910
John C Dvorak: mumbling oh I'm
bumping the mic myself with my

750
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,360
do Woods have a neck

751
00:42:16,260 --> 00:42:21,720
Adam Curry: only in your neck?
This is a good question to

752
00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:25,050
interrupt my flow with about
Sunbury Franklin grease

753
00:42:25,830 --> 00:42:27,660
Unknown: the woods my neck of
the woods

754
00:42:29,490 --> 00:42:32,190
John C Dvorak: where are the
woods a in where's the neck of

755
00:42:32,190 --> 00:42:32,640
the woods?

756
00:42:32,670 --> 00:42:35,550
Adam Curry: You can't actually
fuck an ant either but this is a

757
00:42:35,580 --> 00:42:41,910
fine a fine example of it.
Pardon my French okay in your in

758
00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:47,880
your area of California which is
clearly affecting your brain we

759
00:42:48,090 --> 00:42:50,430
we decided that you know we're
gonna do something else for

760
00:42:50,430 --> 00:42:53,160
climate change and your no
agenda show has been on this

761
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:59,070
from the minute we spotted it.
hydrogen hydrogen is the way to

762
00:42:59,070 --> 00:43:02,520
go. We need everything to be
running on hydrogen. Yes,

763
00:43:02,550 --> 00:43:06,900
hydrogen it's it's it's when you
burn hydrogen or you get as

764
00:43:06,900 --> 00:43:09,900
water now what does it cost to
make hydrogen? Well, let's not

765
00:43:09,900 --> 00:43:13,500
talk about that. But let's just
make everything hydrogen because

766
00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:15,150
it's safe and effective.

767
00:43:15,210 --> 00:43:17,310
Unknown: A huge loss our
community tonight we have new

768
00:43:17,310 --> 00:43:20,610
details on Kern County's new
hydrogen fueling station going

769
00:43:20,610 --> 00:43:24,360
up in flames will happen around
one in the morning because we'll

770
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,150
fire responding to reports of
flames and explosions on the

771
00:43:27,150 --> 00:43:30,930
property of the Golden Empire
transit also known as get eye

772
00:43:30,930 --> 00:43:34,020
witnesses reporter Mary pronoun
spoke with a good employee.

773
00:43:34,350 --> 00:43:36,990
About more details on what
exactly happen.

774
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,560
Can Michael Rochelle at that
time of the fire the Hydrogen

775
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,460
buses were being fueled at the
hydrogen fueling station. Now

776
00:43:44,460 --> 00:43:47,760
the marketing director of the
company spoke to me today and

777
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,730
she said several damages are we
do begin with their cover. Let's

778
00:43:50,730 --> 00:43:54,540
take a look. We see fires
happening throughout Kern County

779
00:43:54,540 --> 00:43:57,930
and Bakersfield. But this
shocking footage of the massive

780
00:43:57,930 --> 00:44:02,400
explosion shows clouds of smoke
releasing into the midnight sky.

781
00:44:02,550 --> 00:44:06,180
The blast was heard and seen
from the tanks on the bus that

782
00:44:06,180 --> 00:44:10,020
had just been filled. A section
of the Golden State Highway was

783
00:44:10,020 --> 00:44:13,350
shut down as the Bakersfield
Fire Department battled the

784
00:44:13,350 --> 00:44:17,280
flames. The company's hydrogen
fueling station was damaged

785
00:44:17,490 --> 00:44:21,090
though the hydrogen fuel cell
bus was completely burned to

786
00:44:21,090 --> 00:44:24,990
ashes. Yeah, Luckily no one was
hurt and the primary tanks of

787
00:44:24,990 --> 00:44:28,680
the actual fueling station did
not catch fire things to safety

788
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:29,580
technology.

789
00:44:29,970 --> 00:44:32,220
Adam Curry: The same safety
technology that caused stopped

790
00:44:32,550 --> 00:44:35,190
catching fire in the first
place. Janet Sanders

791
00:44:35,190 --> 00:44:38,670
Unknown: the marketing director
for Golden Empire transit says

792
00:44:38,670 --> 00:44:41,610
more and more of their buses
will be moving away from

793
00:44:41,610 --> 00:44:45,900
traditional fuel and use a zero
emission fuel like the ones

794
00:44:45,930 --> 00:44:49,080
involved in the fire. The state
of the art fueling station

795
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,740
opened up just seven months ago.
And since they're the only

796
00:44:52,740 --> 00:44:56,790
hydrogen fueling station in
town, there will be delays

797
00:44:57,690 --> 00:45:01,470
are the only hydrogen fueling
station in Kern. County, we

798
00:45:01,470 --> 00:45:04,890
won't be able to fuel our 10
Hydrogen buses so it could

799
00:45:04,890 --> 00:45:09,000
possibly cause some delays in
our service because there will

800
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,650
be 10 buses out of service.

801
00:45:10,740 --> 00:45:13,590
Adam Curry: Wow, that's great.
That's great hydrogen fuel

802
00:45:13,590 --> 00:45:14,970
fires. Fantastic. Just

803
00:45:14,970 --> 00:45:17,010
John C Dvorak: for a correction
for anyone out there listening

804
00:45:17,010 --> 00:45:22,770
to the show. Kern County is
nowhere in my neck of the woods,

805
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,700
or nearby. It's like saying,
Well, Oklahoma City in your neck

806
00:45:26,700 --> 00:45:27,450
of the woods.

807
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,130
Adam Curry: I stand corrected. I
repent from my obvious mistake

808
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:33,660
and cussing. I'm so sorry.

809
00:45:34,290 --> 00:45:38,550
John C Dvorak: Really cussing
was part of the the aunt Satan

810
00:45:38,550 --> 00:45:42,000
Dutch meter Noca Yeah, Mira
NewCon.

811
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,080
Adam Curry: That's gonna be a
ringtone all over the

812
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:50,310
Netherlands. Alright, so back to
the heatwave.

813
00:45:50,339 --> 00:45:52,769
Unknown: This morning. The
record smashing heatwave is

814
00:45:52,769 --> 00:45:55,349
expanding triple digit
temperatures are possible in the

815
00:45:55,349 --> 00:45:58,529
Plains and Midwest in the coming
days. from Wichita to

816
00:45:58,529 --> 00:46:02,099
Minneapolis. And by week's end
temperatures near 100. For

817
00:46:02,099 --> 00:46:02,759
Chicago.

818
00:46:02,820 --> 00:46:06,630
We got smoke, we got heat, then
we got storms in the forecast is

819
00:46:06,630 --> 00:46:07,920
new for the week ahead.

820
00:46:07,950 --> 00:46:10,920
doctors warn this heat can take
a toll on your heart. Oh a new

821
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,560
study finds the soaring
temperatures combined with poor

822
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:17,490
air quality can double your risk
of suffer a heart attack in

823
00:46:17,490 --> 00:46:20,640
Arizona. It's the pavement
causing a surge in patients at

824
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:21,870
the Phoenix burns center.

825
00:46:22,410 --> 00:46:25,560
We have just been seen a huge
spike in the number of people

826
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:30,480
with contact burns. Most people
don't realize that the pavement

827
00:46:30,780 --> 00:46:34,380
concrete cement sidewalks rocks,
the temperature of those

828
00:46:34,380 --> 00:46:38,010
surfaces can get to be 170 to
180 degrees, which is just

829
00:46:38,670 --> 00:46:40,950
Adam Curry: there. Yeah, I mean,
what are people out there laying

830
00:46:40,950 --> 00:46:43,710
down the pavement? Oh, it's so
hot. I think I'm gonna lay down

831
00:46:43,710 --> 00:46:46,830
on the pavement. How do you get
the pavement burrow the boiling

832
00:46:46,830 --> 00:46:49,170
Unknown: temperature of water so
it only takes a fraction of a

833
00:46:49,170 --> 00:46:51,030
second to get a really bad burn.

834
00:46:51,150 --> 00:46:55,950
Today Phoenix is expected to see
its 26th consecutive day of 110

835
00:46:55,950 --> 00:46:59,730
degrees or hotter. It hasn't
been below 90 degrees in 15

836
00:46:59,730 --> 00:47:00,180
days.

837
00:47:00,210 --> 00:47:04,650
We always expect to see some of
these cases but the numbers this

838
00:47:04,650 --> 00:47:05,970
year are just off the charts.

839
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,520
Adam Curry: Well, it's true. I
mean, we've had an the heat is

840
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,450
so bad around the United States.
We've had a number of incidents,

841
00:47:12,450 --> 00:47:14,580
heart attacks, all kinds of
things happening.

842
00:47:14,610 --> 00:47:17,310
Unknown: We turn now to the On
Air emergency for a sports

843
00:47:17,310 --> 00:47:25,770
analyst at ESPN FC he's not
going on a tour of Japan. A

844
00:47:25,770 --> 00:47:34,530
terrifying moment playing out on
live TV ESPN analyst Shaka

845
00:47:34,530 --> 00:47:38,130
Hislop collapsing on air just
minutes before a soccer match at

846
00:47:38,130 --> 00:47:41,400
the Rose Bowl. The 54 year old
former Premier League player

847
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,250
seems stumbling before
collapsing to the ground. His co

848
00:47:44,250 --> 00:47:47,550
host Dan Thomas immediately
calling for medical staff before

849
00:47:47,550 --> 00:47:50,580
the broadcast cut to a
commercial. Later at halftime of

850
00:47:50,580 --> 00:47:53,820
visibly relieved Thomas gave
viewers an update on his labs

851
00:47:53,820 --> 00:47:57,420
condition. It's good news, he's
conscious, he's talking. I think

852
00:47:57,420 --> 00:48:01,260
he's embarrassed about it all.
He's apologized profusely and

853
00:48:01,260 --> 00:48:03,330
now his slop himself speaking
out.

854
00:48:03,780 --> 00:48:07,860
That was awkward. When I'm 24
always this has been listen

855
00:48:07,860 --> 00:48:11,010
every so often like gives you a
moment to pause and and this was

856
00:48:11,010 --> 00:48:14,550
my There's so much I have to be
thankful for my wife, kids

857
00:48:14,550 --> 00:48:18,870
family loved ones may response
no has to be to seek out the

858
00:48:18,870 --> 00:48:22,380
best medical opinion I can get
and listen to what my doctors

859
00:48:22,380 --> 00:48:22,920
have to say.

860
00:48:23,010 --> 00:48:26,490
Heslop ending his message by
thanking the ESPN employees that

861
00:48:26,490 --> 00:48:29,160
rushed to his aid saying he'll
be back soon.

862
00:48:29,370 --> 00:48:32,640
I'm looking forward to get him
back doing what I enjoy doing

863
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:33,030
most

864
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:39,330
of the temperature was around 86
degrees. What caused him to

865
00:48:39,330 --> 00:48:39,690
faint

866
00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:42,060
Adam Curry: Oh no, it's the
heat. Of course it was the heat

867
00:48:42,060 --> 00:48:42,180
and

868
00:48:42,630 --> 00:48:46,200
John C Dvorak: they tried to
shoehorn 86 which is a temporary

869
00:48:46,590 --> 00:48:48,960
temperature which is actually
quite nice.

870
00:48:48,990 --> 00:48:51,930
Adam Curry: No no it people are
getting heart attacks and

871
00:48:51,930 --> 00:48:54,240
collapsing from the heatwave.

872
00:48:54,270 --> 00:48:56,580
Unknown: Meanwhile, health
concerns this morning for Grammy

873
00:48:56,580 --> 00:49:00,000
winner Tori Kelly, that 30 year
old singer is in the hospital

874
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,210
for multiple blood clots. She
was reportedly at dinner with

875
00:49:03,210 --> 00:49:06,660
friends when she collapsed.
Sources say doctors are working

876
00:49:06,660 --> 00:49:09,810
to determine if her heart is in
any danger.

877
00:49:09,870 --> 00:49:12,990
Adam Curry: And I mean it can be
any age you can be 18

878
00:49:12,990 --> 00:49:15,540
Unknown: Tonight the son of a
basketball superstar facing a

879
00:49:15,540 --> 00:49:21,510
medical emergency. Ronnie James
rushed to the ER during a

880
00:49:21,510 --> 00:49:23,340
practice Monday at the
University of Southern

881
00:49:23,340 --> 00:49:26,070
California. A family
spokesperson saying while

882
00:49:26,070 --> 00:49:29,670
practicing brawny James suffered
a cardiac arrest medical staff

883
00:49:29,670 --> 00:49:32,430
was able to treat Rodney and
take him to the hospital. He's

884
00:49:32,430 --> 00:49:36,720
now in stable condition and no
longer in ICU. The 18 year old

885
00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:40,020
is a son of NBA legend LeBron
James and one of the most highly

886
00:49:40,020 --> 00:49:42,660
touted incoming college
basketball players. He was

887
00:49:42,660 --> 00:49:45,450
preparing for his first season
on the USC basketball team.

888
00:49:45,660 --> 00:49:48,030
Cardiac arrest is the leading
cause of death for young

889
00:49:48,030 --> 00:49:50,010
athletes and African What

890
00:49:51,090 --> 00:49:56,190
Adam Curry: is this true? Is now
cardiac arrest is the leading

891
00:49:56,190 --> 00:50:01,530
cause for death amongst young
athletes. Oh, I'd never heard

892
00:50:01,530 --> 00:50:02,790
this cardiac arrest

893
00:50:02,790 --> 00:50:04,860
John C Dvorak: been they've been
saying this for a couple of

894
00:50:04,860 --> 00:50:11,100
years. Now, it turns out just as
COVID has been a mess, okay.

895
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,530
Unknown: Cardiac arrest is the
leading cause of death for young

896
00:50:13,530 --> 00:50:16,710
athletes and African American
college basketball players like

897
00:50:16,710 --> 00:50:19,590
James are the population at the
highest risk. By the way,

898
00:50:19,590 --> 00:50:21,360
Adam Curry: I'm not saying that
this hasn't been happening. It's

899
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,190
just I didn't know what the
leading cause I

900
00:50:23,190 --> 00:50:26,490
John C Dvorak: would like to see
some charts. According to Time

901
00:50:26,490 --> 00:50:26,880
chart,

902
00:50:27,090 --> 00:50:29,760
Unknown: the American Heart
Association Journal, what could

903
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,240
have led to this there are
multiple factors that can cause

904
00:50:33,240 --> 00:50:34,080
cardiac arrest.

905
00:50:34,110 --> 00:50:35,910
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. I'm very
interested, whether

906
00:50:35,910 --> 00:50:39,090
Unknown: it's something that
they've had like a disease in

907
00:50:39,090 --> 00:50:41,820
the heart. So it's it congenital
or something that needs

908
00:50:41,820 --> 00:50:44,220
developed after having an
infection,

909
00:50:44,430 --> 00:50:48,240
doctors with this advice for
parents of athletes of any age,

910
00:50:48,300 --> 00:50:51,780
any student that's going to
start any sport should do a pre

911
00:50:51,780 --> 00:50:55,650
participation physical, and that
includes a an evaluation of

912
00:50:55,650 --> 00:50:58,890
their medical history, and then
also asks the appropriate

913
00:50:58,890 --> 00:50:59,850
questions.

914
00:51:00,210 --> 00:51:02,820
Adam Curry: Like, are you vexed
This? This?

915
00:51:03,870 --> 00:51:07,800
John C Dvorak: You know, yeah,
athletes, especially somebody

916
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,700
like brawny James, LeBron
James's kid, there are over

917
00:51:11,700 --> 00:51:16,110
analysed. There's not like it
slipped through the cracks.

918
00:51:16,980 --> 00:51:18,990
Adam Curry: Well, there's some
interesting analysis, two clips.

919
00:51:18,990 --> 00:51:21,510
The first one, this is a follow
up from that ABC report,

920
00:51:21,540 --> 00:51:24,030
Unknown: you mentioned that it's
rare. Is it rare in young

921
00:51:24,030 --> 00:51:26,250
people? I mean, as young as 18
years old,

922
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,620
Adam Curry: we might see the
leading cause of young athletic

923
00:51:28,620 --> 00:51:29,910
death. How can it be rare?

924
00:51:29,940 --> 00:51:32,640
John C Dvorak: Wait, what?
Beautiful? You're exactly right.

925
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,490
It's the leading cause of death.
How is it rare?

926
00:51:35,700 --> 00:51:38,400
Unknown: This is relatively
rare. But again, we do see a few

927
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,680
cases every year I've seen some
studies estimating that it's

928
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,440
about one out of 80,000
athletes. Well,

929
00:51:43,859 --> 00:51:46,589
Adam Curry: it's certainly more
surely car accidents are the

930
00:51:46,589 --> 00:51:49,829
leading cause of death for young
athletes over this but

931
00:51:49,830 --> 00:51:52,290
Unknown: these stories are
extremely scary. And they are

932
00:51:52,290 --> 00:51:54,600
important to talk to your
doctors about if you have any

933
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,420
particular concerns if you have
a family history, or just

934
00:51:57,450 --> 00:51:59,160
learning a little bit more
information because like I

935
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,700
mentioned, some of these cases
of cardiac arrest can be

936
00:52:02,700 --> 00:52:05,310
attributed to things or the
electrical system that are

937
00:52:05,310 --> 00:52:08,970
related to genetics and not
necessarily lifestyle but it is

938
00:52:08,970 --> 00:52:12,000
still very important to maintain
and maintain a good lifestyle

939
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,110
for overall heart health.

940
00:52:13,259 --> 00:52:16,649
Adam Curry: The electrical
system. No, no, no, I'm

941
00:52:16,649 --> 00:52:18,719
interested. The electrical
system

942
00:52:19,020 --> 00:52:21,540
John C Dvorak: is Dr. Sounds
more like a guy who does

943
00:52:22,710 --> 00:52:24,480
transgender surgeries.

944
00:52:24,690 --> 00:52:26,490
Adam Curry: Let's check out MBCs
analysis

945
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,040
Unknown: tonight the son of a
basketball superstar facing a

946
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:34,980
medical emergency. Ronnie James
rushed to the ER during a

947
00:52:34,980 --> 00:52:36,810
practice Monday at the
University of Southern

948
00:52:36,810 --> 00:52:39,540
California. A family
spokesperson saying while

949
00:52:39,540 --> 00:52:43,140
practicing brawny James suffered
a cardiac arrest medical staff

950
00:52:43,140 --> 00:52:45,900
was able to treat brawny and
take him to the hospital. He's

951
00:52:45,900 --> 00:52:47,970
now in stable condition and no
longer

952
00:52:48,390 --> 00:52:53,460
John C Dvorak: for a second.
Sure. They played the exact same

953
00:52:53,460 --> 00:52:59,340
B role that the other network
played. Yeah. Which makes me

954
00:52:59,340 --> 00:53:04,350
think this is a package. Yeah,
no dig up the exact out of the

955
00:53:04,350 --> 00:53:09,930
blue coincidentally have the
exact same B roll. Bullseye

956
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:14,430
takes a shot it's good for three
whatever it is exact same B roll

957
00:53:14,490 --> 00:53:17,160
Adam Curry: and well that's all
that it was a you know they had

958
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,940
to license everything else from
the owners of the NBA and NBA

959
00:53:20,970 --> 00:53:23,940
only released one. That's
probably what happened. NBA had

960
00:53:23,970 --> 00:53:25,500
NBA prelicense this.

961
00:53:26,070 --> 00:53:28,410
John C Dvorak: He's not an NBA
player. He's got nothing to do

962
00:53:28,410 --> 00:53:33,150
with the NBA. Well, then the
knowledge la Oh crap. I don't

963
00:53:33,150 --> 00:53:36,780
know. He's a guy's a high
schooler. That just is he played

964
00:53:36,780 --> 00:53:39,180
he hasn't even played his first
game for USC. He's got nothing

965
00:53:39,180 --> 00:53:40,020
to do with the NBA.

966
00:53:40,050 --> 00:53:42,270
Adam Curry: Do you think that he
has a shot at his career now or

967
00:53:42,270 --> 00:53:43,260
is this going to be Oh,

968
00:53:43,379 --> 00:53:45,479
John C Dvorak: he'll do a
comeback as you'll be fine.

969
00:53:45,509 --> 00:53:48,719
Unknown: He's now in stable
condition and no longer in ICU.

970
00:53:49,049 --> 00:53:52,589
The 18 year old is the son of
NBA legend LeBron James and one

971
00:53:52,589 --> 00:53:54,839
of the most highly touted
incoming college basketball

972
00:53:54,839 --> 00:53:57,899
players. He was preparing for
his first season on the USC

973
00:53:57,899 --> 00:54:01,019
basketball team. Cardiac arrest
is the leading cause of death

974
00:54:01,019 --> 00:54:02,189
for young athletes. It's the

975
00:54:02,190 --> 00:54:05,340
Adam Curry: same script even.
It's the same script. Are

976
00:54:05,340 --> 00:54:07,740
John C Dvorak: you sure you're
not playing the same clip?

977
00:54:08,130 --> 00:54:12,570
Adam Curry: I'm very sure. Am I
playing the same script? No, I

978
00:54:12,570 --> 00:54:19,740
don't know. Oh, man. Maybe I'm
maybe you know what? I think I

979
00:54:19,740 --> 00:54:26,550
have a heatstroke. Let's try
this one that we did. Hey, it's

980
00:54:26,550 --> 00:54:30,870
the same clip. No wonder they
have the same B roll. Wow. Okay,

981
00:54:30,900 --> 00:54:33,150
embarrassing Boomer moment
everybody.

982
00:54:33,240 --> 00:54:35,640
Unknown: Sorry. But we do begin
with that breaking news on

983
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:39,180
LeBron James son branded a
booster Arnie James in a Los

984
00:54:39,180 --> 00:54:42,750
Angeles hospital right now after
suffering cardiac arrest during

985
00:54:42,750 --> 00:54:47,070
basketball practice at USC. In a
statement to ABC News. A family

986
00:54:47,070 --> 00:54:50,550
spokesperson says that brawny is
now in stable condition and out

987
00:54:50,550 --> 00:54:54,630
of the ICU. That spokesperson
also asking for privacy for the

988
00:54:54,630 --> 00:54:57,870
family and says LeBron James and
his wife Savannah want to

989
00:54:57,870 --> 00:55:01,440
publicly thank the USC Medical
On athletic staff for their

990
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:05,250
incredible work Friday, James is
a highly touted prospect and is

991
00:55:05,250 --> 00:55:08,820
expected to play in the NBA
after his college career. For

992
00:55:08,820 --> 00:55:11,700
more I want to bring in ABC News
contributor and nutrition, Dr.

993
00:55:11,700 --> 00:55:16,560
Luke Patel. So, Doc, let's just
talk start with how something

994
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:20,160
like this could have happened.
You know, he's a star athlete,

995
00:55:20,220 --> 00:55:23,370
presumably in peak physical
condition, right? He's only 18

996
00:55:23,370 --> 00:55:25,680
years old. I mean, we saw what
happened in Tamar Hamlin,

997
00:55:26,220 --> 00:55:29,640
sometimes these things happen
just unexpectedly, even when

998
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:30,810
you're a healthy kid.

999
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,630
Here. That's exactly right. You
know, when we do see cases of

1000
00:55:33,630 --> 00:55:36,960
cardiac arrest and young,
healthy individuals, which I

1001
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,690
have seen in the hospital, is
usually due to something related

1002
00:55:39,690 --> 00:55:42,480
to the hearts electrical,
electrical system.

1003
00:55:42,660 --> 00:55:45,360
Adam Curry: I've never heard
this electrical system thing. So

1004
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,760
this is they are doing this.
This is another clip where

1005
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,280
they're doing the electrical
system. But the find that

1006
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,680
interesting, maybe it's
absolutely correct. But

1007
00:55:53,130 --> 00:55:55,140
Unknown: for some reason or
another, the heart stops, and

1008
00:55:55,140 --> 00:55:58,230
this can cause people to
collapse, lose their pulse, feel

1009
00:55:58,230 --> 00:56:00,630
faint, all of these things can
definitely happen tomorrow

1010
00:56:00,630 --> 00:56:03,900
Hamlins case it was a direct
blow to his chest. But it'd be

1011
00:56:03,900 --> 00:56:04,350
something

1012
00:56:04,470 --> 00:56:07,980
Adam Curry: people that was the
same with, with the NBA player,

1013
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:09,960
or the NBA with the NFL player.

1014
00:56:10,770 --> 00:56:12,180
John C Dvorak: That's what
that's who he's talking about.

1015
00:56:12,180 --> 00:56:16,110
Hamlin is the NFL talking about
Hamlet. Now, I wouldn't remember

1016
00:56:16,110 --> 00:56:21,090
this situation very, it wasn't a
direct blow to his chest. No, it

1017
00:56:21,090 --> 00:56:25,020
wasn't. He was standing there
and that kind of a huddle, and

1018
00:56:25,020 --> 00:56:29,580
it just died on the spot. He may
literally die. But he snapped

1019
00:56:29,580 --> 00:56:31,050
him out of it. We're almost done
here

1020
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,480
Unknown: feel faint. All of
these things can definitely have

1021
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,420
a drawer Hamlins case it was a
direct blow to his chest. But in

1022
00:56:36,420 --> 00:56:38,760
other cases, it can be something
people are born with. And they

1023
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:42,330
may not find out until they do a
high intensity activity. So

1024
00:56:42,330 --> 00:56:46,110
while it is rare, cardiac arrest
in general can affect about

1025
00:56:46,110 --> 00:56:50,220
300,000 people a year. So as a
broader topic, this is something

1026
00:56:50,220 --> 00:56:52,260
we should definitely talk about
and different than heart

1027
00:56:52,260 --> 00:56:54,930
attacks, which is usually a
decrease of blood flow to the

1028
00:56:54,930 --> 00:56:57,390
heart, which people are more
common with those symptoms like

1029
00:56:57,390 --> 00:57:01,380
chest pain, like numb like
numbness, arm weakness, etc.

1030
00:57:01,650 --> 00:57:03,600
Adam Curry: But anyway, if
people think I'm talking about

1031
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,150
the VAX, it's obviously not
people who are vaccinated,

1032
00:57:06,270 --> 00:57:10,680
that's just not possible. And
you can't say, you know, maybe

1033
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,070
they had COVID, because COVID
wasn't really that bad. Our

1034
00:57:14,070 --> 00:57:15,900
president even told us just the
other day,

1035
00:57:15,930 --> 00:57:18,840
Unknown: we're still feeling the
profound loss. For the pandemic,

1036
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:24,330
as I mentioned, over 100 people
dead 100 empty chairs around the

1037
00:57:24,330 --> 00:57:25,080
kitchen table.

1038
00:57:25,260 --> 00:57:31,020
Adam Curry: The best part is
that he can continue now I want

1039
00:57:31,020 --> 00:57:35,490
to be very clear and say, I feel
I feel really bad for these

1040
00:57:35,490 --> 00:57:38,340
people. I mean, whenever they
have a medical emergency, I

1041
00:57:38,340 --> 00:57:42,000
mean, I pray for them to get
better, of course. So we're not

1042
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,840
just you know, Google's here.
And there are some some

1043
00:57:45,870 --> 00:57:49,770
legitimate issues with the heat.
I mean, it does I mean, we're

1044
00:57:49,770 --> 00:57:56,730
under a possible fire emergency
here. They've got the the water

1045
00:57:56,730 --> 00:57:59,910
planes, you know that the drop
the water that got them at the

1046
00:57:59,910 --> 00:58:02,670
airport here, seven minutes away
from us, so anything could

1047
00:58:02,670 --> 00:58:08,430
happen. And I did receive a
request from Sarah, who is in

1048
00:58:08,430 --> 00:58:12,300
the hill country. And she says,
I know y'all don't like to shake

1049
00:58:12,300 --> 00:58:15,300
the rain stick unless it's
drastic, but our well just ran

1050
00:58:15,300 --> 00:58:19,260
dry in our part of hill country.
We live about 15 minutes north

1051
00:58:19,260 --> 00:58:23,580
of San Antonio Bovary there are
many around us whose wells are

1052
00:58:23,580 --> 00:58:26,940
dry and hot and we have to have
water hauled in from Canyon Lake

1053
00:58:26,940 --> 00:58:30,090
but the water guys informed us
they're going into Stage Three

1054
00:58:30,090 --> 00:58:33,000
drought soon and will not be
able to haul water. We

1055
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,690
desperately need rain in
Kerrville that's 27 minutes from

1056
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:40,350
from my house and here to
replenish the aquifer. There are

1057
00:58:40,350 --> 00:58:44,250
so many people flooding in here
that we that won't stop watering

1058
00:58:44,250 --> 00:58:47,310
their yards and won't collect
rainwater which we're doing now

1059
00:58:47,310 --> 00:58:50,160
she says we have a homestead
with animals and a garden but

1060
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,740
it's hard to keep things alive
with so little water this is an

1061
00:58:52,740 --> 00:58:56,790
SOS prayers would also be
appreciated greatly I would like

1062
00:58:56,790 --> 00:59:01,020
to do a stick shake even though
it will affect me

1063
00:59:03,060 --> 00:59:07,050
John C Dvorak: you can do this
shake and that will no fine no

1064
00:59:07,050 --> 00:59:10,320
it has this localized situation
you're 20 minutes away because

1065
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:14,640
right yes, it has to fight do a
stick I want you to affect the

1066
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,230
entire world flooding

1067
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:21,060
Adam Curry: we need pointed
towards me pointed towards me

1068
00:59:21,060 --> 00:59:24,720
and the only one the backscatter
might hit some of Alaska

1069
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:28,890
there'll be okay. I would like
to two shakes for

1070
00:59:29,460 --> 00:59:32,190
John C Dvorak: for Ocala
compromised to give one half

1071
00:59:32,190 --> 00:59:34,350
shake. Okay, here we go. 123

1072
00:59:34,470 --> 00:59:36,690
Adam Curry: So

1073
00:59:43,230 --> 00:59:49,410
all right. batten down the
hatches Tina. It's coming.

1074
00:59:51,570 --> 00:59:54,750
John C Dvorak: Ah, well, it's
about 65 degrees here it is

1075
00:59:54,750 --> 00:59:58,530
foggy. Why don't they talk about
that. They never talked about

1076
00:59:58,530 --> 01:00:03,360
how these areas like here which
has been unseasonably cold.

1077
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,870
Throughout June we normally have
a nice summer in June never

1078
01:00:06,870 --> 01:00:10,710
happened and is still cold right
through July. Did this the story

1079
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:12,660
is the story in

1080
01:00:12,660 --> 01:00:15,360
Adam Curry: that that's a good
news story. We can't have that.

1081
01:00:16,530 --> 01:00:20,640
That's that's no good. No, no,
no, no, no, no, no. Can't have

1082
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:21,060
that.

1083
01:00:21,630 --> 01:00:23,700
John C Dvorak: Well, if you want
to be credited the only cruel

1084
01:00:23,700 --> 01:00:26,400
person who will probably do
something like make some

1085
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:34,020
commentary about COVID Yeah, Ted
Nugent. Chris Hi, Ted Nugent on

1086
01:00:34,020 --> 01:00:38,490
a podcast. I can't believe this
guy. No wonder is not in the

1087
01:00:38,490 --> 01:00:41,160
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. He's
politically incorrect. When

1088
01:00:41,940 --> 01:00:44,520
Adam Curry: the news what did he
do now? What did the nudes do

1089
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:45,090
now?

1090
01:00:47,070 --> 01:00:48,120
John C Dvorak: He's just being
interviewed.

1091
01:00:48,690 --> 01:00:51,090
Unknown: Would you speak to the
people who believe it is a

1092
01:00:51,090 --> 01:00:54,600
worthwhile vaccine and it is
saving lives. They just did

1093
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,540
wrong or they've been ceded
federal line from the federal

1094
01:00:57,540 --> 01:00:58,020
government.

1095
01:00:58,770 --> 01:01:00,660
Jim, I appreciate the
opportunity to speak to the

1096
01:01:00,660 --> 01:01:03,720
people that went ahead and got
the job. I speak their language

1097
01:01:09,300 --> 01:01:10,350
they understand that.

1098
01:01:11,310 --> 01:01:14,310
Well, so all these millions of
people that got the shots,

1099
01:01:14,310 --> 01:01:16,560
they're just stupid. Yep.

1100
01:01:20,220 --> 01:01:22,260
Adam Curry: The news man, I
can't believe he's not in the

1101
01:01:22,260 --> 01:01:25,140
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. And
neither can Senator Mitch

1102
01:01:25,140 --> 01:01:25,650
McConnell,

1103
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:29,460
Unknown: a regular Senate ritual
interrupted today by 19 seconds

1104
01:01:29,460 --> 01:01:32,790
of silence, quickly turning to
concern for the health of Senate

1105
01:01:32,790 --> 01:01:36,360
Minority Leader Mitch McConnell,
who appeared to freeze up as he

1106
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,370
began his weekly news
conference.

1107
01:01:38,430 --> 01:01:42,780
Well, good afternoon, everyone.
We're on a path to finishing the

1108
01:01:42,780 --> 01:01:50,430
NDAA. This week, been good
bipartisan cooperation and a

1109
01:01:50,430 --> 01:01:51,240
string of

1110
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,810
his fellow senators, including
John Barrasso, a medical doctor

1111
01:02:03,810 --> 01:02:08,130
from Wyoming, he was eventually
helping the 81 year old

1112
01:02:08,130 --> 01:02:12,450
McConnell away from the podium.
Returning Moments later, the

1113
01:02:12,450 --> 01:02:15,240
Senate's top Republicans
shrugged off a reporter's

1114
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:16,530
question about the moment.

1115
01:02:18,750 --> 01:02:21,240
You find you're fully able to do
your job.

1116
01:02:22,530 --> 01:02:25,980
McConnell, who in January became
the longest serving party leader

1117
01:02:25,980 --> 01:02:29,310
in Senate history has suffered a
series of health challenges in

1118
01:02:29,310 --> 01:02:33,840
recent years. He had shoulder
surgery after a fall in 2019.

1119
01:02:34,170 --> 01:02:37,320
And he spent six weeks
recovering from a concussion and

1120
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,590
fractured ribs suffered in a
march fall, after which he has

1121
01:02:40,590 --> 01:02:44,370
sometimes struggled to make out
questions from reporters because

1122
01:02:44,370 --> 01:02:47,040
his office has been tight lipped
about the incident saying only

1123
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,590
that the senator was feeling
lightheaded. And pointing out

1124
01:02:49,590 --> 01:02:52,140
that he answered reporters
questions sharply after he

1125
01:02:52,140 --> 01:02:52,740
returned.

1126
01:02:56,010 --> 01:02:58,410
John C Dvorak: And they tried to
take him out with the breaker.

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01:02:59,550 --> 01:03:04,170
Adam Curry: You know, so I was I
was, first of all, it feels very

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01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:09,390
sad when you saw the video,
right? Yeah, he froze. Now, do

1129
01:03:09,390 --> 01:03:12,630
you think that maybe he pooped
his pants? And it's like, oh, my

1130
01:03:12,630 --> 01:03:13,410
god, what am I going? I

1131
01:03:13,410 --> 01:03:14,250
John C Dvorak: don't know. Okay.

1132
01:03:15,900 --> 01:03:18,570
Adam Curry: Well, it could have
been dementia. It could I mean,

1133
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:22,620
this that kind of brain freeze.
That seems pretty severe. I'm no

1134
01:03:22,620 --> 01:03:25,380
doctor. There's no analysis of
that.

1135
01:03:26,610 --> 01:03:28,800
John C Dvorak: Well, there's
been a couple of discussions.

1136
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:34,080
But again, you can't get good
material except from podcasts

1137
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:38,190
nowadays. Yes, that's correct.
Do you have I was talking to me

1138
01:03:38,190 --> 01:03:40,200
about this. And as the
conversation went like this, I

1139
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:43,740
said, Well, I, you know, I've
been watching the reviews and

1140
01:03:43,740 --> 01:03:47,580
all the fawning things about the
movie Barbie, when you listen to

1141
01:03:47,580 --> 01:03:52,470
the podcasters complain about
the movie, because it's got all

1142
01:03:52,470 --> 01:03:55,410
kinds of messaging, and it's
really woke, and he's got all

1143
01:03:55,410 --> 01:03:59,490
these issues with the, you know,
trying to his propaganda stick

1144
01:03:59,490 --> 01:04:02,850
film, and besides being an
advertisement for the doll, and

1145
01:04:02,850 --> 01:04:07,140
I said, the best reviews I've
gotten aren't the 86% Yeah, it's

1146
01:04:07,140 --> 01:04:11,790
great from Rotten Tomatoes
professionals, is from these

1147
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:15,360
various podcasters that are
moaning and groaning are saying

1148
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,390
one thing or another on both
sides of the art of the debate.

1149
01:04:19,110 --> 01:04:22,500
They're members of the public
that have they're not just guy.

1150
01:04:22,530 --> 01:04:25,170
Here's another thing. It's not
just the guy on the street,

1151
01:04:25,170 --> 01:04:28,890
who's who some reporter shoves a
microphone into Michael Curtis

1152
01:04:28,890 --> 01:04:31,080
had a whole little movie about
this, where you shove a

1153
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:34,050
microphone into some rando
person on the street. So I

1154
01:04:34,050 --> 01:04:36,540
thought that oh, he was great.
These are people who put

1155
01:04:36,540 --> 01:04:40,050
themselves out there thinking
that they're spokespeople for I

1156
01:04:40,050 --> 01:04:43,380
don't know who but they're on
Tik Tok. They're on Instagram,

1157
01:04:43,380 --> 01:04:47,130
they're here and they're there.
And their material is better

1158
01:04:47,130 --> 01:04:48,300
than the mainstream.

1159
01:04:49,170 --> 01:04:51,540
Adam Curry: Yes, interest
interesting. I of course it does

1160
01:04:51,540 --> 01:04:55,440
depend on and that's the beauty
of podcasting. You're welcome is

1161
01:04:56,070 --> 01:05:00,000
you really can get all kinds of
opinions. I have a

1162
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:04,290
overwhelmingly heard positive
things on podcasts and from our

1163
01:05:04,290 --> 01:05:08,970
own producers. Interestingly, do
you have any yet and nothing but

1164
01:05:08,970 --> 01:05:10,710
negative? Do you have any
examples?

1165
01:05:11,370 --> 01:05:12,720
John C Dvorak: Night and bearing
in mind this

1166
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:14,550
Adam Curry: is why there's two
of us. This is why there's two

1167
01:05:14,550 --> 01:05:18,810
of us, which is great. I mean,
for as an example, we are very

1168
01:05:18,810 --> 01:05:23,640
skeptical about worldwide
pandemics and how they come to

1169
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:26,910
be and that there's going to be
a next one. But if you go to

1170
01:05:26,910 --> 01:05:32,910
this podcast, the World Economic
Forum, radio Davos podcast, you

1171
01:05:32,910 --> 01:05:34,350
might think something else.

1172
01:05:36,180 --> 01:05:39,330
Unknown: The pathogen known as
disease X, the virus that we

1173
01:05:39,330 --> 01:05:42,660
don't know yet, but we do know
is out there.

1174
01:05:42,690 --> 01:05:46,500
Welcome to the podcast from the
World Economic Forum that looks

1175
01:05:46,500 --> 01:05:48,930
at the biggest challenges and
how we might solve them. This

1176
01:05:48,930 --> 01:05:52,920
week. The next pandemic is a
matter of when not if so how can

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01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:55,050
we will prepare for disease x,

1178
01:05:55,080 --> 01:06:00,390
we can actually gain a lot of
knowledge ahead of time about

1179
01:06:00,390 --> 01:06:02,220
something that doesn't exist
yet. A new

1180
01:06:02,220 --> 01:06:05,730
book called disease X says that
even though we can't avoid

1181
01:06:05,730 --> 01:06:09,180
future novel viruses are rising,
we can prepare for them and

1182
01:06:09,180 --> 01:06:12,720
prevent a global disaster on the
scale of COVID-19 happening

1183
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:13,140
again,

1184
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:17,640
when all of that homework has
been done, we will be quite a

1185
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:22,890
few steps ahead of any new virus
before it emerges. We're kind of

1186
01:06:23,100 --> 01:06:26,220
almost ready for anything that
these viral families can throw

1187
01:06:26,220 --> 01:06:26,670
at us.

1188
01:06:26,940 --> 01:06:30,600
Kelan says that even in a
geopolitically fragmented world

1189
01:06:30,630 --> 01:06:33,750
history shows we can still all
work together against this

1190
01:06:33,750 --> 01:06:34,440
common enemy.

1191
01:06:34,470 --> 01:06:37,170
The vast majority of the
smallpox eradication work was

1192
01:06:37,170 --> 01:06:40,260
done during the Cold War, the US
and Russia were pointing

1193
01:06:40,260 --> 01:06:43,950
missiles at each other, but they
were also sharing vaccines,

1194
01:06:43,980 --> 01:06:48,390
there was this huge push to
eradicate this terrible disease,

1195
01:06:48,509 --> 01:06:53,129
Adam Curry: disease X. As far as
I'm concerned, disease X is

1196
01:06:53,129 --> 01:06:53,939
already here.

1197
01:06:54,540 --> 01:06:56,460
John C Dvorak: Well, I'm sure
it's in the lab. And I would say

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01:06:56,460 --> 01:06:59,940
here's an interesting thing.
It's what the turn Twitter into

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01:07:00,420 --> 01:07:06,210
100 years ago, there was the
Spanish flu 100 years ago. And

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01:07:06,210 --> 01:07:09,720
100 years later, we have this
COVID thing which was probably

1201
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:13,590
blabbed created or created or
augmented from something real,

1202
01:07:13,590 --> 01:07:13,800
some

1203
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:17,460
Adam Curry: evidence about the
Spanish flu coming from research

1204
01:07:17,460 --> 01:07:18,060
as well.

1205
01:07:18,330 --> 01:07:21,750
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well,
that's seems pretty unlikely

1206
01:07:21,870 --> 01:07:25,470
Adam Curry: considering nuclear
military vaccination research.

1207
01:07:26,310 --> 01:07:31,080
John C Dvorak: And I find that
hard, hard to take. But whatever

1208
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:35,730
the case, if these if the cycles
100 years, who cares? Why are

1209
01:07:35,730 --> 01:07:37,380
you putting people in a panic

1210
01:07:37,439 --> 01:07:41,369
Adam Curry: because because we
need one, we need another panic.

1211
01:07:41,459 --> 01:07:44,999
This global boiling thing is not
working. We know we can get

1212
01:07:44,999 --> 01:07:48,899
people to stay inside and mask
up and social distance and

1213
01:07:48,899 --> 01:07:54,029
telecommute. That's the only way
we can go. Meanwhile, there is

1214
01:07:54,509 --> 01:07:58,289
truly a pandemic and I'm sad to
have to present this news.

1215
01:07:59,279 --> 01:08:03,989
Because I've been warning about
this somatic looted magnetized

1216
01:08:04,709 --> 01:08:08,819
ozempic will go V I've been
saying it's a they're too

1217
01:08:08,849 --> 01:08:12,389
they're too jacked up about it.
They're all too happy. You know,

1218
01:08:12,419 --> 01:08:15,149
do we really have the research
that we really know what's going

1219
01:08:15,149 --> 01:08:20,849
on? And with this report from
Dr. Terry, what's his name?

1220
01:08:20,849 --> 01:08:25,229
Terry dobro. We also find out
what happened to Lisa Marie

1221
01:08:25,229 --> 01:08:27,479
Presley. Do you know what she
died of?

1222
01:08:28,319 --> 01:08:30,179
John C Dvorak: That she died?
That stomach situation?

1223
01:08:30,569 --> 01:08:31,139
discussed?

1224
01:08:31,170 --> 01:08:33,510
Adam Curry: Yes. I didn't know
that. I didn't know she didn't

1225
01:08:33,510 --> 01:08:34,050
well.

1226
01:08:34,860 --> 01:08:35,310
Unknown: A couple

1227
01:08:35,310 --> 01:08:38,460
John C Dvorak: of I talked to
her about this. Well play the

1228
01:08:38,460 --> 01:08:40,500
clip that I had, because I have
a thought on Good, good, good,

1229
01:08:40,500 --> 01:08:43,830
good. Let's talk about the
weight loss surgery, bariatric

1230
01:08:43,830 --> 01:08:46,440
surgery, there's several
different kinds. I have read

1231
01:08:46,440 --> 01:08:50,580
Lisa Marie's autopsy report, she
had the most advanced kind,

1232
01:08:50,580 --> 01:08:55,560
basically, you disconnect part
of the intestines, so you just

1233
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:59,040
don't absorb as much food and
that's how you get calorie

1234
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:02,850
restriction. So she had bypassed
part of her intestines, they

1235
01:09:02,850 --> 01:09:05,670
made a new connection between
your stomach and her intestines.

1236
01:09:05,940 --> 01:09:10,950
And the most common complication
when you go inside the abdomen

1237
01:09:10,950 --> 01:09:14,340
and do that kind of surgery is
that scar tissue forms and

1238
01:09:14,340 --> 01:09:18,480
that's called the adhesions. And
occasionally at any time in the

1239
01:09:18,480 --> 01:09:22,620
future when you've had this type
of bypass bariatric surgery,

1240
01:09:22,860 --> 01:09:27,750
those adhesions can block parts
of the small intestine and cause

1241
01:09:27,750 --> 01:09:32,460
what's called a small bowel
obstruction. And that can lead

1242
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:36,540
to a process and it goes on long
enough called strangulation

1243
01:09:36,690 --> 01:09:41,130
where the intestines actually
died. Recent studies have shown

1244
01:09:41,370 --> 01:09:46,620
that if you're on ozempic type
drugs, they can slow down your

1245
01:09:46,620 --> 01:09:51,330
intestines. They can predispose
you to intestinal obstruction

1246
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:56,670
and there may be the perfect
unfortunate storm of previous

1247
01:09:56,670 --> 01:10:01,920
surgery with intestinal scarring
opioid Use. So you can't tell

1248
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:05,250
that you're that sick and
further slowing of the

1249
01:10:05,250 --> 01:10:09,090
intestines by the use of these
miracle weight loss drugs that

1250
01:10:09,090 --> 01:10:12,750
virtually everyone is on in
Hollywood. If you're going to go

1251
01:10:12,750 --> 01:10:17,520
on the ozempic type drugs, and
you get intestinal pain, you get

1252
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:22,530
stomach bloating, you get pain.
You drink alcohol with this,

1253
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:26,550
you're predisposed to intestinal
obstruction and pancreatitis and

1254
01:10:26,550 --> 01:10:30,870
right now, right now, I have
three of my patients who are on

1255
01:10:30,870 --> 01:10:35,250
ozempic. Okay, that haven't even
had surgery yet in the hospital

1256
01:10:35,250 --> 01:10:40,530
to in the ICU, with intestinal
and pancreatitis, just from the

1257
01:10:40,530 --> 01:10:44,460
use of ozempic Nobody's talking
about this right now. But we'll

1258
01:10:44,820 --> 01:10:45,570
talk about it.

1259
01:10:46,260 --> 01:10:47,970
Adam Curry: All right, you have
a comment?

1260
01:10:49,710 --> 01:10:52,560
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this is one
of those situations and I would

1261
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:58,800
say the M M RNA vaccine is
similar. Where are you? Were

1262
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:02,190
there's something out there that
is being used ozempic is used

1263
01:11:02,190 --> 01:11:06,420
from some diabetics? Yes. And
it's a diet for specific

1264
01:11:06,420 --> 01:11:11,310
purposes. Yes. And it may be
causing the same affected with

1265
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:16,710
patients that are getting as
diabetics. But until you roll it

1266
01:11:16,710 --> 01:11:21,960
out and in this case it wasn't
rolled out by it was rolled out

1267
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:24,570
is we're on a word of mouth
let's all get his prescription

1268
01:11:24,570 --> 01:11:26,160
for the doctor sign off on it no

1269
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:29,070
Adam Curry: problem through
Hollywood influencers

1270
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,770
John C Dvorak: through Hollywood
influencers it gets rolled out

1271
01:11:31,770 --> 01:11:36,900
to the to the mass market then
these things start to show up

1272
01:11:37,110 --> 01:11:40,440
it's actually like a test market
that is well as a life and death

1273
01:11:40,440 --> 01:11:44,250
test market but it's because of
that this could have destroyed

1274
01:11:44,250 --> 01:11:48,000
could still be could be reused
for the next 100 years without

1275
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:52,170
anyone noticing that this is
probably the main problem with

1276
01:11:52,170 --> 01:11:54,270
this thing with this horrible
product

1277
01:11:54,630 --> 01:12:00,240
Adam Curry: but all these
products are problematic now I

1278
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:03,630
have a Bobby that K clip I want
to play about the vaccine but

1279
01:12:03,630 --> 01:12:08,850
first I want to thank Josh
seawell Producer Josh who in his

1280
01:12:08,850 --> 01:12:13,770
studio using waves and isotope
the guest these are plugins I

1281
01:12:13,770 --> 01:12:19,920
think created the cleanest Bobby
The K clip of what he really

1282
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:27,960
said about the COVID virus now
we I've been trying to clean

1283
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:32,010
this up we've used the Adobe
product it has not worked I want

1284
01:12:32,010 --> 01:12:34,830
you to tell me and if it's if
it's not good enough John will

1285
01:12:34,830 --> 01:12:39,840
stop it right away. But we may
be the only media outlet in

1286
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:43,200
possession of something you can
actually hear what he actually

1287
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,600
said and we need to talk about
bio weapons

1288
01:12:46,980 --> 01:12:52,020
Unknown: I know now about bio
weapons because the past two and

1289
01:12:52,020 --> 01:12:58,380
a half years and and you know
what we adapt ology that we now

1290
01:12:58,380 --> 01:12:58,950
have to

1291
01:12:58,980 --> 01:13:04,020
develop these. We have we put
hundreds of millions of dollars

1292
01:13:04,050 --> 01:13:12,450
into an ethnically targeted
microchip. In fact, COVID-19

1293
01:13:12,480 --> 01:13:17,370
there's an argument that is
ethnically targeted COVID-19

1294
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:24,630
attacks are erases thoughts,
disproportionately the races

1295
01:13:24,630 --> 01:13:29,610
that are most of you immune to
COVID-19 because of the

1296
01:13:29,910 --> 01:13:36,330
structure of the genetic
structure, genetic differentials

1297
01:13:36,330 --> 01:13:42,930
among different phrases, of the
of the receptors of the ACE two

1298
01:13:42,930 --> 01:13:43,680
receptor

1299
01:13:45,300 --> 01:13:50,490
Adam Curry: COVID-19 is targeted
to attack, Caucasians and

1300
01:13:52,710 --> 01:13:55,860
Unknown: black people. The
people who are close to me are

1301
01:13:55,860 --> 01:14:01,890
Ashkenazi Jews, and and Chinese.
Right. And we don't know that it

1302
01:14:01,890 --> 01:14:04,890
was deliberately targeted that
or not, but there are papers out

1303
01:14:04,890 --> 01:14:09,690
there and then show me the
racial and ethnic differential

1304
01:14:10,350 --> 01:14:14,220
impact to that. We do know that
the Chinese are spending

1305
01:14:14,250 --> 01:14:18,150
hundreds and millions of dollars
developing. And we are

1306
01:14:18,150 --> 01:14:20,940
developing ethnic bioweapons
that's where all those labs in

1307
01:14:20,940 --> 01:14:25,530
the Ukraine are about they're
collecting Russian DNA. They're

1308
01:14:25,530 --> 01:14:30,090
collecting Chinese DNA, though
we can target people by race and

1309
01:14:30,750 --> 01:14:33,150
Adam Curry: so still not great,
but now you can hear

1310
01:14:33,990 --> 01:14:37,290
John C Dvorak: it's not great.
And the problem I think, just

1311
01:14:37,290 --> 01:14:41,760
miking the guy correctly would
be useful now this was still too

1312
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,820
much room ambience and echo what
wasn't

1313
01:14:44,820 --> 01:14:47,730
Adam Curry: an interview was
just a phone video. That's why

1314
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:51,390
That's why it's so crappy. But
but now we realize that it

1315
01:14:51,390 --> 01:14:54,930
wasn't really about his so
called anti semitic comments.

1316
01:14:54,930 --> 01:14:58,350
It's about the fact that we the
United States and them these

1317
01:14:58,380 --> 01:15:02,130
them's the time I knees are
creating ethnically targeted

1318
01:15:02,130 --> 01:15:05,640
bioweapons and he speaks of labs
and he speaks to the Ukrainian

1319
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:10,590
labs all very annoying. So
they've moved the goal they move

1320
01:15:10,590 --> 01:15:15,180
the conversation to he's a Jew
hater that's where they moved

1321
01:15:15,180 --> 01:15:17,670
but that but the real
conversation is what are we

1322
01:15:17,670 --> 01:15:22,380
doing what are we doing what is
everybody doing that you know

1323
01:15:22,770 --> 01:15:26,670
this is supposed to be an
international treaty we don't do

1324
01:15:26,670 --> 01:15:28,320
we're not creating bio is

1325
01:15:29,370 --> 01:15:31,890
John C Dvorak: what we're doing
in fact it's against our own

1326
01:15:32,100 --> 01:15:35,100
local laws that dead they had to
move the thing offshore to the

1327
01:15:35,100 --> 01:15:39,150
ruling groups. Now I have a
series of cake

1328
01:15:39,510 --> 01:15:41,970
Adam Curry: Can I steal your Can
I start with the with my vaccine

1329
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:45,840
What do I have it from the I've
to say two sources because he's

1330
01:15:45,900 --> 01:15:49,710
become very interesting this guy
I have a source one is a piece

1331
01:15:49,710 --> 01:15:54,990
from Hannity's town hall with
him and the other one is a p is

1332
01:15:54,990 --> 01:15:59,610
a two shorter clips of with the
money honey, which are very

1333
01:15:59,610 --> 01:16:00,390
fascinating.

1334
01:16:00,990 --> 01:16:03,930
John C Dvorak: The my clips are
all about the up

1335
01:16:04,500 --> 01:16:07,710
Adam Curry: about the what.
Yeah. Okay, well, let me roll

1336
01:16:07,710 --> 01:16:10,080
this one out. First. This is
from the town hall because it's

1337
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:14,040
about he's he's speaking sense
that I was very confused by

1338
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:15,690
this. Because you have okay
before

1339
01:16:15,690 --> 01:16:19,050
John C Dvorak: you okay, I'm
going to kind of move ahead of

1340
01:16:19,050 --> 01:16:22,530
you on that, before you play
that you should play this, which

1341
01:16:22,530 --> 01:16:28,860
is Jen Psaki doing an RFK Jr.
Wrap of every reason he's wrong

1342
01:16:28,860 --> 01:16:29,790
about everything

1343
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:32,640
Unknown: really makes you wonder
what is it that Kennedy stands

1344
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:37,170
for? That has the right so head
over heels for him? Is it his

1345
01:16:37,170 --> 01:16:41,160
years of work as an anti vaccine
advocate, his repeatedly

1346
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:45,210
debunked claim that vaccines
cause autism? Is it his

1347
01:16:45,210 --> 01:16:48,210
trafficking in a variety of
COVID vaccine conspiracy

1348
01:16:48,210 --> 01:16:51,150
theories, including ones
involving microchips being

1349
01:16:51,150 --> 01:16:55,260
inserted into all of our bodies?
Are they fans of his recent

1350
01:16:55,260 --> 01:16:58,830
comments that COVID was quote,
ethnically targeted to spare

1351
01:16:58,830 --> 01:17:01,830
Chinese and Jewish people? Or is
it his assertion that

1352
01:17:01,830 --> 01:17:04,950
antidepressants like Prozac have
caused the rise of school

1353
01:17:04,950 --> 01:17:08,730
shootings in America? Obviously,
completely insane and not true?

1354
01:17:09,090 --> 01:17:12,720
Or that Wi Fi causes cancer and
something called leaky brain

1355
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:16,080
whatever that may be? Or is it
this claim that chemicals in the

1356
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:19,920
water could be turning kids
transgender? I couldn't even

1357
01:17:19,950 --> 01:17:23,160
cover all of these outlandish,
crazy claims, because we need to

1358
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:24,180
continue with our show.

1359
01:17:24,510 --> 01:17:27,000
Adam Curry: All right. There you
go. I know why you did that

1360
01:17:27,270 --> 01:17:32,310
clip. Well, that's it. That's
it. That is basically, is it

1361
01:17:32,310 --> 01:17:35,010
because he listened to the no
agenda show. I mean, that's

1362
01:17:35,010 --> 01:17:40,740
basically what she said, right?
There is very, thank you for

1363
01:17:40,740 --> 01:17:41,400
doing that.

1364
01:17:41,849 --> 01:17:45,749
John C Dvorak: We never show our
show. And nobody talks about the

1365
01:17:45,749 --> 01:17:47,729
microchips that's framed. That's
true. We

1366
01:17:47,730 --> 01:17:50,070
Adam Curry: don't talk about the
microchip. Nor does he as far as

1367
01:17:50,070 --> 01:17:53,040
I know. I've never heard it. No,
no. In fact,

1368
01:17:53,070 --> 01:17:55,710
John C Dvorak: I think most of
what she said is made up and

1369
01:17:55,710 --> 01:17:58,860
part of the op but okay, no,
take your stuff in that. I have

1370
01:17:58,860 --> 01:18:00,900
more. I have the follow up.

1371
01:18:00,929 --> 01:18:04,319
Adam Curry: Okay. And I have a
mic. Other clips are up clips to

1372
01:18:04,319 --> 01:18:07,769
sublet. Let's just reiterate.
Let's just regroup here. The

1373
01:18:07,769 --> 01:18:11,069
current thinking is and we don't
really know what the current

1374
01:18:11,069 --> 01:18:16,529
thinking is. An intelligence
agency is better. There's an

1375
01:18:16,529 --> 01:18:20,849
obvious one is running this and
going to make him president.

1376
01:18:22,289 --> 01:18:25,619
They're sick of the military
industrial complex, taking all

1377
01:18:25,619 --> 01:18:26,159
the money they get

1378
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:28,590
John C Dvorak: being pushed
around. Yeah, this is the great

1379
01:18:28,590 --> 01:18:30,570
reset. This is the great reset.

1380
01:18:30,690 --> 01:18:34,830
Adam Curry: Bobby Kennedy is JR
is the great reset. And they're

1381
01:18:34,830 --> 01:18:38,130
sick of the pharmaceutical
industry ruining everything

1382
01:18:38,130 --> 01:18:41,040
because there'll be no one left
to spy on well, I'll be dead.

1383
01:18:43,500 --> 01:18:47,820
There, then the sick of of the
Biden crime family and I think

1384
01:18:47,820 --> 01:18:52,710
that OP is running reasonably
well, to get rid of him. At the

1385
01:18:52,710 --> 01:18:56,730
end the the theory is it will be
Biden exits either through

1386
01:18:57,810 --> 01:19:03,180
impeachment 25th amendment death
is sucked into an aircraft

1387
01:19:03,180 --> 01:19:08,070
engine. And Kamala becomes
president for a few months that

1388
01:19:08,070 --> 01:19:11,610
gives the party the Democrats
energy. They want to keep the

1389
01:19:11,610 --> 01:19:14,700
party going and then the only
guy who will have a chance

1390
01:19:14,850 --> 01:19:20,400
against Trump would be Bobby,
the K. Did I summarize that

1391
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:21,000
correctly?

1392
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:24,990
John C Dvorak: There's missing
pieces to your summary. But I

1393
01:19:24,990 --> 01:19:29,490
think that's that's the overall
the overall look at it. That's

1394
01:19:29,490 --> 01:19:30,360
basically it.

1395
01:19:30,510 --> 01:19:34,680
Adam Curry: So knowing that Fox
News is run by Democrats, and

1396
01:19:34,710 --> 01:19:39,630
this townhall was held in New
York, and the enthusiasm of the

1397
01:19:39,630 --> 01:19:43,710
crowd Now was it across the
board was it wasn't people who

1398
01:19:43,710 --> 01:19:47,280
were agnostic, or were they
independents, was it Democrats

1399
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:50,580
were excited? I think you'll
find most of them in New York or

1400
01:19:50,790 --> 01:19:53,940
a home they found a whole bunch
of undercover Republicans who

1401
01:19:53,940 --> 01:19:56,820
like it. They were hooting and
hollering and one thing's for

1402
01:19:56,820 --> 01:20:01,560
sure they really buy into his
version of what should have

1403
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:05,340
happened when this when COVID
hit? What would

1404
01:20:05,340 --> 01:20:07,740
Unknown: you have done
differently? And when at what

1405
01:20:07,740 --> 01:20:12,000
point? In other words, would you
have allowed the experimental

1406
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:16,380
vaccine to be produced? Would it
be only for older people? Would

1407
01:20:16,380 --> 01:20:19,620
you have had mask mandates?
Would you have any school

1408
01:20:19,620 --> 01:20:24,210
shutdowns? You know? And if you
took those policies on, do you

1409
01:20:24,210 --> 01:20:27,990
not run the risk? If there's
more human contact, a virus we

1410
01:20:27,990 --> 01:20:30,840
didn't know a lot about early
on, we still don't really even

1411
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:33,090
know enough. And as far as I'm
concerned, what would you have

1412
01:20:33,090 --> 01:20:33,660
done differently,

1413
01:20:33,690 --> 01:20:36,180
Adam Curry: I would have done
everything differently. I mean,

1414
01:20:36,180 --> 01:20:39,150
number one, the first thing
civic first, the first thing

1415
01:20:39,150 --> 01:20:42,990
that they should have done is to
use the you know, they use the

1416
01:20:42,990 --> 01:20:46,350
internet in many, many ways,
usually, to censor doctors,

1417
01:20:46,350 --> 01:20:49,890
physicians are trying to say,
hey, you know, I'm using a

1418
01:20:49,890 --> 01:20:52,800
treatment protocol that actually
works. I'm using therapeutics

1419
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:56,100
that work closely with silence,
we should have done the

1420
01:20:56,100 --> 01:21:00,330
opposite. We should have used
the internet, we now have this

1421
01:21:00,330 --> 01:21:04,710
extraordinary resource to link
ourselves to the 15 million

1422
01:21:04,980 --> 01:21:09,690
frontline physicians around the
world. And has that report. What

1423
01:21:09,690 --> 01:21:13,830
treatments was it using? What
was working? We know now, there

1424
01:21:13,830 --> 01:21:16,860
were dozens and dozens of
therapeutic drugs that were off

1425
01:21:16,860 --> 01:21:20,430
the shelf drugs that were
obliterated talking about H CQ,

1426
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:25,230
or you notice notice Hannity
saying, Ah, CQ, because I guess

1427
01:21:25,230 --> 01:21:28,650
not allowed to say
hydroxychloroquine? Yes, to kind

1428
01:21:28,650 --> 01:21:33,780
of use code now. Now. Dozens and
dozens of therapeutic drugs that

1429
01:21:33,780 --> 01:21:36,300
were off the shelf drugs that
will obliterate you're

1430
01:21:36,300 --> 01:21:38,160
Unknown: talking about H GQ, or
you

1431
01:21:39,420 --> 01:21:43,350
Adam Curry: know, drugs,
Chloroquine, but many, many,

1432
01:21:43,350 --> 01:21:48,000
many others. And then what is
now what kind of crowd is this?

1433
01:21:48,870 --> 01:21:51,990
That can't be a bunch of
Democrats who are applauding

1434
01:21:51,990 --> 01:21:55,650
these alternative horse paste?
Is that so is that Republicans?

1435
01:21:55,650 --> 01:21:58,470
Are they they're sitting or is
this rent a crowd? I mean, I'm

1436
01:21:58,470 --> 01:21:59,040
combining

1437
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:00,360
John C Dvorak: it's got to be
read the crowd. These are

1438
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:00,960
shells,

1439
01:22:00,990 --> 01:22:03,840
Unknown: and by the head of the
urban many, many, many others.

1440
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:09,000
Adam Curry: And then I think
there's a list. I've seen a list

1441
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:16,350
at Pier quarry and document
colic. I have published about 20

1442
01:22:16,350 --> 01:22:19,740
different drugs that were just
devastatingly effective against

1443
01:22:19,740 --> 01:22:24,390
those. But see, the problem was
not only did they not focus on

1444
01:22:24,390 --> 01:22:27,990
those are they tried to prevent
the public from getting access

1445
01:22:27,990 --> 01:22:31,410
to them. And the reason for that
was because there's a little

1446
01:22:31,410 --> 01:22:35,730
known federal law that says you
cannot give an emergency use

1447
01:22:35,730 --> 01:22:40,680
authorization to a vaccine. If
an existing therapeutic drug

1448
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:44,400
that has been approved for any
purpose, proves to be effective

1449
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:48,240
against the target disease. So
if they hadn't admitted that

1450
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:51,780
hydroxychloroquine, which they
knew from day one that it worked

1451
01:22:51,780 --> 01:22:53,310
against, against COVID.

1452
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:59,310
Unknown: Henry Ford Hospital but
after the fact came out and said

1453
01:22:59,340 --> 01:23:02,910
that taken early it mitigated
symptoms, that's what I took out

1454
01:23:02,910 --> 01:23:05,520
of that. And there were other
studies that followed. I never

1455
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:08,040
saw one on ivermectin that
showed it was effective.

1456
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:12,390
However, monoclonal antibody
seemed to be a therapeutic that

1457
01:23:12,390 --> 01:23:13,350
worked very well.

1458
01:23:13,380 --> 01:23:17,670
Adam Curry: I love how Hannity
really ate the the narrative

1459
01:23:17,670 --> 01:23:22,620
like oh, no, that's all debunk
studies. It's no good. And so

1460
01:23:22,650 --> 01:23:26,850
here's Kennedy, first speaking
the truth because that's exactly

1461
01:23:26,850 --> 01:23:29,520
how it works. You can't have a
vaccine certainly not under

1462
01:23:31,440 --> 01:23:34,620
emergency use authorization if
there is a treatment for it. So

1463
01:23:34,620 --> 01:23:39,420
that's why these these
treatments were basically the

1464
01:23:39,420 --> 01:23:42,930
platform Hannity is now saying,
well, there's no no evidence of

1465
01:23:42,930 --> 01:23:43,620
that, but that

1466
01:23:43,620 --> 01:23:45,780
John C Dvorak: was a which is
just the opposite of the truth.

1467
01:23:45,900 --> 01:23:51,570
And we have documented on this
show. Yeah. Almost 1000 studies

1468
01:23:51,570 --> 01:23:53,940
showing that ivermectin is very
effective, and I haven't

1469
01:23:53,940 --> 01:23:58,530
ivermectin Kennedy home coming
up where he outlines this

1470
01:23:58,530 --> 01:24:02,190
himself. He's doing I don't know
how he I didn't see this. So I

1471
01:24:02,190 --> 01:24:05,880
don't know how he handles handy.
This Hannity lying. Yes. Not

1472
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:09,630
showed. Well, it's also backup
at because I have listened to

1473
01:24:09,630 --> 01:24:12,510
his radio show a lot. Because
when I'm driving, if it's on I

1474
01:24:12,510 --> 01:24:13,530
listen, I'm sorry.

1475
01:24:13,710 --> 01:24:14,220
Adam Curry: He.

1476
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:19,260
John C Dvorak: He was a huge
promoter of the monoclonal

1477
01:24:19,260 --> 01:24:22,830
antibodies, which were then
adapted in Florida, and then it

1478
01:24:22,830 --> 01:24:25,800
turns out to stop working with
the first variation, which was a

1479
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:29,580
problem, but he liked to pet
him. He loves to Pat himself on

1480
01:24:29,580 --> 01:24:32,340
the back about these monoclonal
antibodies.

1481
01:24:32,790 --> 01:24:36,420
Adam Curry: Well, as you'd
expect, Bobby decay answers it

1482
01:24:36,420 --> 01:24:36,990
correctly.

1483
01:24:37,020 --> 01:24:39,570
Unknown: I never saw one on
ivermectin that showed it was

1484
01:24:39,570 --> 01:24:43,530
effective. However, monoclonal
antibody seemed to be a

1485
01:24:43,530 --> 01:24:46,320
therapeutic that worked very
well. But that was also

1486
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:47,100
experimental.

1487
01:24:47,250 --> 01:24:51,540
Adam Curry: Well, I don't know
about those studies because the

1488
01:24:51,540 --> 01:24:56,310
press is not reporting. You go
to marrow masses website Dr.

1489
01:24:56,310 --> 01:25:02,640
Merrill NASA's mag Whoa, Wait,
wait a minute. What this is not

1490
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:08,880
okay. terrorism or Harvey ratio
is one of the leading world's

1491
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:14,550
leading epidemiologists at Yale
and they have the list of 199.

1492
01:25:14,850 --> 01:25:20,550
studies that show that on
average about 85% effective

1493
01:25:20,550 --> 01:25:24,840
against against serious disease
does not

1494
01:25:28,050 --> 01:25:30,990
Unknown: show the same about
hydroxychloroquine. A lot of

1495
01:25:30,990 --> 01:25:33,990
break, we'll come back to
exclusive townhall, Robert F.

1496
01:25:33,990 --> 01:25:34,320
Kennedy

1497
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:35,400
Jr. For the hour.

1498
01:25:37,260 --> 01:25:39,090
Adam Curry: Of course, to go to
commercial.

1499
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:42,690
John C Dvorak: This is funny.
Well, I, since you played it, I

1500
01:25:42,690 --> 01:25:46,290
think it should. This was he
went on the hill. Yeah. That

1501
01:25:46,290 --> 01:25:47,400
showed the rising.

1502
01:25:47,430 --> 01:25:50,880
Adam Curry: Yes, yes. And the
girl the woman there hates him.

1503
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:55,350
Well, she's black. So she always
does she No, no, no. Who knows?

1504
01:25:55,530 --> 01:25:58,110
John C Dvorak: No, no, you're
thinking of the old Gold Hill?

1505
01:25:58,110 --> 01:25:58,860
Yeah, no, no, I

1506
01:25:58,860 --> 01:26:00,000
Adam Curry: don't know about the
new Hill.

1507
01:26:00,300 --> 01:26:03,090
John C Dvorak: No, the new Hills
got some doofus and she's a

1508
01:26:03,090 --> 01:26:05,970
black girl and girl thinks he's
a racist. Let me guess. Well,

1509
01:26:05,970 --> 01:26:09,570
she kind of does. But it's not
what were the clips had is a two

1510
01:26:09,570 --> 01:26:13,830
parter. It hits to the to the
same discussion of ivermectin

1511
01:26:13,830 --> 01:26:17,700
with a guy but gives another I
didn't have no idea why this

1512
01:26:17,700 --> 01:26:20,070
keeps cropping up in the Kennedy
really does a good job of

1513
01:26:20,070 --> 01:26:22,020
shutting him down. Because this
is a two parter, you got to

1514
01:26:22,020 --> 01:26:23,040
start with part one.

1515
01:26:23,130 --> 01:26:26,400
Adam Curry: And blacks were
dying in our country, at a rate

1516
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:30,900
of 3000 people per million
population in Haiti, which is a

1517
01:26:30,900 --> 01:26:33,180
poor country, we were told the
poor countries were going to be

1518
01:26:33,180 --> 01:26:38,340
devastated. They don't want
about 1.3% vaccination rates and

1519
01:26:38,340 --> 01:26:41,940
almost nobody was vaccinated.
And they were dying at a rate of

1520
01:26:41,940 --> 01:26:45,360
14 people per million
population. So 1/200 of our

1521
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:48,600
death rate the same in Nigeria,
the average in Africa was about

1522
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:53,460
320 per million population.
That's 1/10. Of what we had

1523
01:26:53,460 --> 01:26:56,220
here. So it's unclear. These are
all things that need to be

1524
01:26:56,220 --> 01:27:00,660
studied. But I never believed
that it was because the you

1525
01:27:00,660 --> 01:27:03,420
know, I don't think I think it's
unlikely that it's because the

1526
01:27:03,420 --> 01:27:08,400
virus is is more virulent
towards the Africans, those

1527
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:12,030
Unknown: discrepancies, those
differences in the lethality of

1528
01:27:12,030 --> 01:27:17,490
COVID be attributed to different
ages of the population? I don't

1529
01:27:17,490 --> 01:27:20,610
know exactly. But the average
age in Haiti is probably in here

1530
01:27:20,610 --> 01:27:21,390
and things like that.

1531
01:27:21,420 --> 01:27:24,630
Adam Curry: Yeah. Yes, there are
many, many are the CO variables.

1532
01:27:25,980 --> 01:27:28,890
It's interesting. I mean, these
are things that should be

1533
01:27:28,890 --> 01:27:32,250
studied. So I don't think you
can make any conclusion from

1534
01:27:32,250 --> 01:27:35,370
them. But for example, Japan,
which has the oldest population

1535
01:27:35,370 --> 01:27:39,360
in the world, had a death rate
about 1/10, the United States.

1536
01:27:39,750 --> 01:27:43,470
So you know, these are things
NIH, the $42 billion annual

1537
01:27:43,470 --> 01:27:47,700
budget, we ought to be looking
at that and saying, Why are some

1538
01:27:47,700 --> 01:27:50,670
people surviving one? Or is it
because they took ivermectin and

1539
01:27:50,670 --> 01:27:54,900
hydroxychloroquine in this
country? Is one of the protocols

1540
01:27:54,900 --> 01:27:57,300
what are they you know, the
other differences so that the

1541
01:27:57,300 --> 01:28:01,950
next time we have a disease like
this, that we actually have some

1542
01:28:01,950 --> 01:28:05,100
knowledge about it? Just an
observation before you go to the

1543
01:28:05,100 --> 01:28:14,070
next clip? He's almost your age?
He's 6069, I think. And it's,

1544
01:28:14,100 --> 01:28:18,720
it's fun to see that no one. No
one has a problem with him

1545
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:23,700
calling African Americans blacks
or the blacks as you might say.

1546
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:28,140
They're missing an opportunity
to call them a racist.

1547
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:32,250
John C Dvorak: Well, I think
sisters and up

1548
01:28:32,940 --> 01:28:37,680
Adam Curry: they're not gonna
Yes. is also not come out

1549
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:40,200
against him yet, because of his
wife. You know, there's all

1550
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:43,440
kinds of stuff that doesn't add
up his handler. You mean his

1551
01:28:43,440 --> 01:28:45,900
handler? Yes. His handle Cheryl.
Cheryl, the handler.

1552
01:28:48,480 --> 01:28:52,230
John C Dvorak: So here, we talk
about the ivermectin again, and

1553
01:28:52,230 --> 01:28:57,900
this time, he added, this guy is
just a stooge, the guy from the

1554
01:28:57,900 --> 01:29:00,330
hill when it comes to these
things that we're going to, and

1555
01:29:00,330 --> 01:29:03,780
it's almost again, like it's a
testing ground for this is what

1556
01:29:03,780 --> 01:29:06,660
you're going to be hearing, how
do you react to it? And I think

1557
01:29:06,660 --> 01:29:08,970
this is one of his better
reactions to it much better than

1558
01:29:08,970 --> 01:29:09,810
the Hannity one.

1559
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:13,170
Adam Curry: The real questions
that you'd want answered or not

1560
01:29:13,170 --> 01:29:15,240
studied, and that is
frustrating.

1561
01:29:15,330 --> 01:29:16,800
Unknown: Do you think there's,
you know, they

1562
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:20,430
talk about hydroxy, Chloroquine,
and ivermectin, I looked at a

1563
01:29:20,430 --> 01:29:22,680
lot of the studies that seems
pretty mixed. To me. I haven't

1564
01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:25,350
seen a lot of compelling
evidence that they did. A lot of

1565
01:29:25,350 --> 01:29:28,830
good I've seen one argument that
ivermectin which can help you if

1566
01:29:28,830 --> 01:29:32,700
you have a parasitic infection,
if you will study the countries

1567
01:29:32,700 --> 01:29:35,130
where that's more prevalent,
where they did a lot of the

1568
01:29:35,490 --> 01:29:38,820
ivermectin studies, there was a
pot there was a good outcome,

1569
01:29:38,820 --> 01:29:41,100
but it was It wasn't because it
was fighting COEs making it

1570
01:29:41,100 --> 01:29:44,640
easier for you to recover from
COVID. You also have parasitic

1571
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:48,690
infection at the same time. So I
wonder if there's a skew on the

1572
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:53,670
slight positive that that Have
you have you heard this? US

1573
01:29:53,670 --> 01:29:55,710
because there's not widespread
parasitic infections?

1574
01:29:55,740 --> 01:29:59,700
Adam Curry: Yeah, I mean, I've
looked very, very carefully at

1575
01:29:59,700 --> 01:30:02,790
the Look at the studies. There's
now in fact I just did an

1576
01:30:03,390 --> 01:30:08,310
article this week. There are now
100 studies that show that

1577
01:30:08,310 --> 01:30:12,090
ivermectin had profound
benefits, generally speaking, a

1578
01:30:12,090 --> 01:30:16,950
70 to 85% reduction in
hospitalizations and deaths, it

1579
01:30:16,950 --> 01:30:20,190
was really a miracle drug,
particularly in the later rounds

1580
01:30:20,190 --> 01:30:20,820
of pandemic.

1581
01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:24,720
Unknown: If that was all in like
Bangladesh or South America, it

1582
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:25,320
could be because

1583
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:27,600
Adam Curry: all over the world
parasite it was all over the

1584
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:30,960
world and the countries where
they use it for parasites in

1585
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:35,430
Nigeria, which has the highest
river blindness burden in the

1586
01:30:35,430 --> 01:30:40,350
world did have the lowest COVID
death rate in the world that

1587
01:30:40,380 --> 01:30:43,410
they use, they also have the
biggest malaria burden. So

1588
01:30:43,410 --> 01:30:47,970
virtually the entire population
is on my on hydroxychloroquine.

1589
01:30:48,630 --> 01:30:51,750
And a large part of the
population is on ivermectin for

1590
01:30:51,750 --> 01:30:55,470
the river blindness. So, and
they had almost no vaccination

1591
01:30:55,470 --> 01:30:59,130
they I think one would like
something like 1.3% vaccination,

1592
01:30:59,130 --> 01:31:03,030
so they did very well. But there
are states in India sort of side

1593
01:31:03,030 --> 01:31:07,860
by side state, like aralen,
Uttar Pradesh, or Corolla used

1594
01:31:07,860 --> 01:31:12,630
our protocol and had the same
comparable death rates and blue

1595
01:31:12,630 --> 01:31:15,870
Pradesh use ivermectin
hydroxychloroquine. And end of

1596
01:31:15,870 --> 01:31:19,500
the pandemic overnight. So I
liked it, he's answering it that

1597
01:31:19,500 --> 01:31:23,130
way. I do have a problem with
this. You know, so obviously,

1598
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:26,010
the the obvious thing to say
would be well, you know,

1599
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:29,730
causation is not correlation Bo,
just because could be other

1600
01:31:29,730 --> 01:31:34,080
things. Maybe that's why the aid
targets black people, the

1601
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:39,300
heavily but you could also did
what he's also saying, although

1602
01:31:39,300 --> 01:31:42,210
he's not really pointing that
out is that the country where

1603
01:31:42,210 --> 01:31:44,940
people didn't get vaccinated
less people died? So was it

1604
01:31:44,940 --> 01:31:48,270
ivermectin or was it people
getting killed from the vaccine?

1605
01:31:50,160 --> 01:31:52,800
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well,
there's that but they do that,

1606
01:31:53,730 --> 01:31:57,750
from results will take into
account the pre vaccine era.

1607
01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:01,500
Okay, which was a year. Yeah.
But that was a year of data.

1608
01:32:01,530 --> 01:32:03,930
Adam Curry: It was like flu flu
level does.

1609
01:32:04,349 --> 01:32:06,929
John C Dvorak: Well, there was a
lot of deaths in the first year

1610
01:32:07,019 --> 01:32:10,799
in the nursing homes in places
where they were placing these

1611
01:32:10,829 --> 01:32:14,339
people. Yeah, but there were no
there was virtually no deaths in

1612
01:32:14,339 --> 01:32:16,949
those that one area of India
where they were using

1613
01:32:16,949 --> 01:32:20,279
ivermectin, we did this story.
That's true. Where were they

1614
01:32:20,279 --> 01:32:22,799
used ivermectin. And then
someone came along and said, No,

1615
01:32:22,799 --> 01:32:26,099
you can't use it. It take away
the packs the Z pack whenever

1616
01:32:26,099 --> 01:32:28,349
they took away those evac packs,
or whatever they're called. And

1617
01:32:28,349 --> 01:32:32,489
then they the COVID cases,
jacked way up. And they did

1618
01:32:32,519 --> 01:32:35,789
Publix demanded to get these
things back. And so they start

1619
01:32:35,789 --> 01:32:39,479
using ivermectin again and went
away in that one case that he

1620
01:32:39,479 --> 01:32:41,999
cited, the whole area was free
of it.

1621
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:44,130
Adam Curry: Or I'm going to
withhold my clips, I want you to

1622
01:32:44,130 --> 01:32:46,110
continue with your with your
bobby the app. Well,

1623
01:32:46,110 --> 01:32:47,910
John C Dvorak: the only ones
that these are the only two I

1624
01:32:47,910 --> 01:32:50,700
got two left, which is the
opposite, kind of more of the op

1625
01:32:50,700 --> 01:32:53,910
clip, which is the I'm seeing
the opposite to equate Kennedy

1626
01:32:53,910 --> 01:32:59,070
with Trump in his run up, and
then start to pull out the pins,

1627
01:32:59,100 --> 01:33:03,120
the underpinnings that show that
he's not the same as Trump. So

1628
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:06,990
you but to get the popularity
up, you have to make him Trump

1629
01:33:07,020 --> 01:33:10,350
white. Well, otherwise, why is
he so popular? Why he's, he's

1630
01:33:10,350 --> 01:33:14,610
just another version of Trump.
And so that is, that will go on

1631
01:33:14,610 --> 01:33:18,510
for another month or two. But I
have clips to prove this. Okay.

1632
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:25,980
My Trump clips and this is RFK
compared to Trump, and I believe

1633
01:33:25,980 --> 01:33:29,910
this is on Fox. I think it is
but one and here's

1634
01:33:29,910 --> 01:33:32,940
Unknown: how you know that RFK
is getting under their skin. The

1635
01:33:32,940 --> 01:33:33,330
media

1636
01:33:33,330 --> 01:33:35,790
is now comparing him to Trump

1637
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:39,870
parallels between Trump and
Bobby Kennedy Jr. are kind of

1638
01:33:39,870 --> 01:33:42,570
stunning. They'll throw these
grenades out and let them

1639
01:33:42,570 --> 01:33:45,330
explode and then walk away and
go, Look, I didn't do anything

1640
01:33:45,389 --> 01:33:51,569
we have now open this. Can of
Worms were kind of contrarian,

1641
01:33:51,779 --> 01:33:55,319
eccentric candidates are running
and it was Donald Trump first in

1642
01:33:55,319 --> 01:33:57,599
the Republican Party, and now
we're seeing it in

1643
01:33:57,600 --> 01:33:58,710
the Democratic Party.

1644
01:33:59,370 --> 01:34:01,410
Adam Curry: Okay, yeah, there
was Judge Jeanine. So definitely

1645
01:34:01,410 --> 01:34:03,990
Fox now has the

1646
01:34:05,340 --> 01:34:08,820
John C Dvorak: the idea is to
not only do the parallel at

1647
01:34:08,820 --> 01:34:11,700
first, but to also this will
also suck away certain

1648
01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:15,990
discontented Trump voters always
like kind of like Trump and let

1649
01:34:15,990 --> 01:34:18,450
me take a listen to what he has
to say. When you hear his

1650
01:34:18,450 --> 01:34:22,230
messages, which are the ones
that Misaki outlined,

1651
01:34:22,230 --> 01:34:26,490
inaccurately, you start to see
that he can take voice taking

1652
01:34:26,490 --> 01:34:31,110
votes away from disgruntled
Trump supporters and there's

1653
01:34:31,110 --> 01:34:32,040
plenty of those.

1654
01:34:32,310 --> 01:34:35,610
Unknown: I have not been
warranted to enable. All right,

1655
01:34:35,610 --> 01:34:36,180
good. Stop.

1656
01:34:36,420 --> 01:34:38,010
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry, I
should have set this up. Right.

1657
01:34:38,670 --> 01:34:42,300
So this is a continuation of the
first clip of these different

1658
01:34:42,300 --> 01:34:45,780
people on MSNBC, acquainting him
with Trump and this is I say

1659
01:34:45,780 --> 01:34:49,080
this last one and put it aside
this is Larry O'Donnell,

1660
01:34:49,410 --> 01:34:53,040
Lawrence O'Donnell, whatever.
Yeah, wants to call himself he.

1661
01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:58,590
He decides to do this kind of a
bit, where he doesn't say it but

1662
01:34:58,590 --> 01:35:02,220
he he brings up Something which
I don't I think in the opposite

1663
01:35:02,220 --> 01:35:04,620
not allowed to happen. You're
not supposed to talk about

1664
01:35:04,950 --> 01:35:07,470
Kennedy's heroin addiction.

1665
01:35:08,100 --> 01:35:10,830
Adam Curry: Right? That is a
little, almost no one knows

1666
01:35:10,830 --> 01:35:11,280
this.

1667
01:35:11,970 --> 01:35:16,170
John C Dvorak: Is this is a no,
no. Yeah. And so so. So Donald

1668
01:35:16,170 --> 01:35:21,720
feels obliged to kind of at
least suggested he doesn't say

1669
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:24,870
it. But he suggested in a very
awkward way, and I think he's

1670
01:35:24,870 --> 01:35:29,550
gonna get if he's, and I believe
he would be part of a giant op

1671
01:35:30,780 --> 01:35:33,570
will be reprimanded for this
because it's a little too close

1672
01:35:33,570 --> 01:35:37,440
to home, but he never pulls it
off. And I thought it was total

1673
01:35:37,440 --> 01:35:41,130
chicken shit. If he's going to
pull something like this and not

1674
01:35:41,130 --> 01:35:44,400
not actually bring it out or say
it. And nobody said it. Nobody's

1675
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:47,130
brought it up. Ted Kennedy is a
heroin addict. But listen to

1676
01:35:47,130 --> 01:35:47,520
this.

1677
01:35:47,550 --> 01:35:52,380
Unknown: I have not wanted to
enable his access to the drug

1678
01:35:52,380 --> 01:35:56,520
addiction, that he has never
conquered. The drug addiction

1679
01:35:57,390 --> 01:36:01,440
that has been with him for all
of his adult life, the addiction

1680
01:36:01,740 --> 01:36:02,610
to attention.

1681
01:36:07,260 --> 01:36:12,750
Adam Curry: Wow. Yeah, yeah,
interesting. Okay, so what I

1682
01:36:12,750 --> 01:36:18,720
thought, well, I have to now so
now, two clips, one where he

1683
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:21,870
excoriates the intelligence
agencies in an appropriate

1684
01:36:21,870 --> 01:36:24,630
manner which actually I've never
really seen done before.

1685
01:36:24,630 --> 01:36:28,650
Certainly not on a fox property.
Although this is the money honey

1686
01:36:28,650 --> 01:36:32,280
on Fox Business. So this is all
dry run. No one watches that.

1687
01:36:35,430 --> 01:36:39,720
Yes, dry runs a dry run. And
Maria is great. I mean, Maria is

1688
01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:41,970
reading on it. Man, you are
bumping your mic like crazy.

1689
01:36:42,180 --> 01:36:44,640
John C Dvorak: Bang day with a
glass full of water.

1690
01:36:44,670 --> 01:36:45,630
Adam Curry: Well stop it.

1691
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:50,490
John C Dvorak: Sorry. Telling me
I did that.

1692
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:51,600
Adam Curry: You keep doing it.

1693
01:36:52,140 --> 01:36:55,590
John C Dvorak: I don't keep
doing it. You have it's the it's

1694
01:36:55,590 --> 01:36:55,680
the

1695
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:58,230
Adam Curry: stalking thing. It's
the it's the plot filter that's

1696
01:36:58,230 --> 01:36:59,910
hitting your mic. I'm telling
you.

1697
01:37:00,030 --> 01:37:02,550
John C Dvorak: No, it's not even
mirrored at the moment. Okay.

1698
01:37:03,210 --> 01:37:03,660
All right.

1699
01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:07,440
Adam Curry: You want to be
professional. So it's a dry run.

1700
01:37:07,440 --> 01:37:10,590
But he is he's, it's actually
the best explanation in under a

1701
01:37:10,590 --> 01:37:14,220
minute of exactly what happened
with the deep platforming of

1702
01:37:14,220 --> 01:37:19,170
doctors and everybody else for
any reason. By the by all the

1703
01:37:19,170 --> 01:37:22,710
agencies, the alarming thing
that's come out in judge OTS

1704
01:37:22,710 --> 01:37:27,900
decision is a federal district
judge just issued 175 Page

1705
01:37:27,900 --> 01:37:32,850
decision forbidding the White
House from having any contact

1706
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:36,330
with social media companies
because it abused those that

1707
01:37:36,510 --> 01:37:40,470
abused those contacts so badly
over the past three years. What

1708
01:37:40,470 --> 01:37:45,360
we now know is that the White
House had deployed an army of

1709
01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:50,430
federal agencies, including the
CIA, the FBI, the DHS,

1710
01:37:50,460 --> 01:37:54,270
Department of Homeland Security,
the IRS and many others, to

1711
01:37:54,270 --> 01:38:02,130
threaten Facebook, Google, and
Twitter. With withdrawing there

1712
01:38:02,130 --> 01:38:05,790
is section 230 immunity, which
is an existential threat, those

1713
01:38:06,180 --> 01:38:09,630
companies cannot exist without
that immunity. And they were

1714
01:38:09,630 --> 01:38:12,900
told that if they did not
censor, the President's

1715
01:38:12,900 --> 01:38:16,140
opponents, critics of these
policies that they would lose

1716
01:38:16,140 --> 01:38:21,690
that immunity. Unbelievable.
Maria, unbelievable. That's a

1717
01:38:21,690 --> 01:38:25,260
very clear explanation of what
happened. I don't think I've

1718
01:38:25,260 --> 01:38:28,920
heard anyone say it that
clearly. That they've threatened

1719
01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:33,660
them with their and section 230,
if you don't remember, is the

1720
01:38:33,660 --> 01:38:37,800
section in the communications
law, telecommunications law that

1721
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:43,410
says a platform that hosts user
generated content, as I think

1722
01:38:43,410 --> 01:38:45,270
that's what they called it, when
they wrote this, it was still

1723
01:38:45,270 --> 01:38:50,400
called UGC that you cannot be
held liable for what someone

1724
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:53,400
says on the platform. Which, by
the way, I'm now kind of

1725
01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:56,490
thinking we should just remove
that. But that was all you know,

1726
01:38:56,490 --> 01:38:59,550
that and taking away
pharmaceutical commercials would

1727
01:38:59,550 --> 01:39:03,180
solve a lot of problems in the
world. Get rid of that immunity

1728
01:39:03,180 --> 01:39:11,640
for them. Now he mentioned CIA,
FBI, IRS, DHS, did I miss one?

1729
01:39:12,090 --> 01:39:14,370
John C Dvorak: Everybody's wants
to get in on the act. If you can

1730
01:39:14,370 --> 01:39:18,000
push people around to take to
promote your messaging as

1731
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:20,730
opposed to theirs. You would do
it.

1732
01:39:20,790 --> 01:39:23,730
Adam Curry: So why wouldn't you?
So? Yeah, go ahead.

1733
01:39:24,030 --> 01:39:29,310
John C Dvorak: I should mention
there was a law case against one

1734
01:39:29,310 --> 01:39:32,940
I was against Google or somebody
about it had to do with section

1735
01:39:32,940 --> 01:39:36,270
230. And I've always been
personally of the opinion that

1736
01:39:36,270 --> 01:39:38,670
if you're a publisher, you're a
publisher. And that's what

1737
01:39:38,670 --> 01:39:42,060
Google realizes. They say Google
is a Twitter. It's a publisher,

1738
01:39:42,060 --> 01:39:45,330
they're publishing this stuff.
And yes, user generated but so

1739
01:39:45,330 --> 01:39:48,090
is like the news stories in the
New York Times. They're

1740
01:39:48,090 --> 01:39:51,660
generated by reporters who are
paid to write this stuff, but

1741
01:39:51,660 --> 01:39:54,390
it's still kind of user
generated. They also have

1742
01:39:54,390 --> 01:39:58,020
letters to the editor, which are
user generated, and they feel

1743
01:39:58,110 --> 01:40:01,680
obliged to edit these things.
And so They, you know, to keep

1744
01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:05,850
like liability issues at bay.
And I've always felt that this

1745
01:40:05,850 --> 01:40:09,120
should be the same with these
with these other guys. And so

1746
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:13,710
there's this case against one of
them and and it was I wish I

1747
01:40:13,710 --> 01:40:15,990
could remember the details
because I called the attorneys

1748
01:40:15,990 --> 01:40:20,580
and volunteered myself as an
expert witness. Pick Me Pick Me.

1749
01:40:21,750 --> 01:40:26,370
Well, I was a good it was right
up my alley. The case and I

1750
01:40:26,370 --> 01:40:29,280
talked about this as a Yeah,
it's a disaster. You know, this

1751
01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:31,950
230. I went on talked to his
lawyers and all you got always

1752
01:40:31,950 --> 01:40:35,340
said, we're not going to use
you. There's no way. He says

1753
01:40:35,340 --> 01:40:40,140
because you think that 230
should be abolished? And he says

1754
01:40:40,140 --> 01:40:43,350
that weren't making this lawsuit
on the basis that it should be

1755
01:40:43,380 --> 01:40:47,070
in play. And I could I to this
day, I can't figure out what

1756
01:40:47,070 --> 01:40:48,750
their logic was in this case,

1757
01:40:48,810 --> 01:40:54,240
Adam Curry: maybe money. Yes.
There was

1758
01:40:54,300 --> 01:40:56,730
John C Dvorak: there was that,
always that guy.

1759
01:40:56,730 --> 01:40:59,430
Adam Curry: So now you could
this next clip, I think is is an

1760
01:40:59,430 --> 01:41:04,230
important one. Because this is
either we have the wrong agency

1761
01:41:04,230 --> 01:41:09,510
in mind for this up, or it's a
stress test. And because of this

1762
01:41:09,540 --> 01:41:12,900
comes right out of this after
he's excoriated these agencies,

1763
01:41:13,050 --> 01:41:17,190
and now the money honey, who by
the way, during his answer is

1764
01:41:17,190 --> 01:41:22,260
looking at her phone. Very
weird. And she's looking because

1765
01:41:22,260 --> 01:41:24,870
John C Dvorak: there's lots of
different dancers. There on it.

1766
01:41:24,900 --> 01:41:29,190
Adam Curry: Yeah, yep. And so
this was the next question. It

1767
01:41:29,190 --> 01:41:32,400
was clearly the back and he's
very rude when you're in the

1768
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:34,800
setting and they're both at a
desk and you can see her looking

1769
01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:37,710
at her phone, you know, just
scrolling through or tapping

1770
01:41:37,710 --> 01:41:40,530
some stuff. Alright, so that's a
text message in mind. You know,

1771
01:41:40,530 --> 01:41:43,830
John C Dvorak: Jack fields got
field does this on his show all

1772
01:41:43,830 --> 01:41:47,010
the time? Yeah. He was doing it
the other day he was going he's

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01:41:47,010 --> 01:41:49,230
back channeling somebody on his
phone. Man.

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01:41:49,230 --> 01:41:51,870
Adam Curry: You you listen to
Hannity, you watch God filled? I

1775
01:41:51,870 --> 01:41:54,210
mean, dude, get some I do. It's
imbalance in your diet.

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01:41:54,690 --> 01:41:55,710
John C Dvorak: I got balanced.

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01:41:56,430 --> 01:41:58,020
Adam Curry: All right. Now
listen to this.

1778
01:41:58,050 --> 01:42:01,320
Unknown: There is this network
in place, make Trump calls at

1779
01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:05,550
the swamp. Others call it? You
know, just this network of

1780
01:42:05,550 --> 01:42:08,490
establishment that is hard to
get read. I've seen your

1781
01:42:08,490 --> 01:42:13,080
comments about the CIA and the
assassination of your uncle and

1782
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:15,900
father that they were involved.
How do you get and break this,

1783
01:42:16,050 --> 01:42:17,940
this enormous network?

1784
01:42:19,050 --> 01:42:22,140
Adam Curry: Well, you have to
you have to do it agency by

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01:42:22,140 --> 01:42:28,260
agency because the fulcrum of
the corruption, this corrupt

1786
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:31,710
merger of state and corporate
power is happening within the

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01:42:31,710 --> 01:42:35,400
agencies and each of those
agencies have different issues

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01:42:35,430 --> 01:42:40,530
of agency cabinet, promoted and
prompted the capture of those

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01:42:40,530 --> 01:42:43,020
agencies by the industries
they're supposed to regulate

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01:42:43,950 --> 01:42:47,910
with the intelligence agencies
in many of them, although not

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01:42:47,910 --> 01:42:52,020
all of them, are now serving a
purpose of enriching the

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01:42:52,020 --> 01:42:55,230
military industrial complex and
expanding its power for some

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01:42:55,230 --> 01:42:59,640
military contractors when they
recognize this it's a function

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01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:03,570
of the CIA had devolved into
providing the military

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01:43:03,570 --> 01:43:08,190
industrial complex with a
constant pipeline of new wars in

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01:43:08,190 --> 01:43:12,690
order to rich enrich military
contractors and expand the power

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01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:17,880
of the intelligence apparatus.
Unbelievable again, this to me

1798
01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:21,330
is very interesting this answer
so he's saying not all the

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intelligence agencies are bad
and then goes on to say but CIA

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they all they do is provide a
continuous pipeline of wars so

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01:43:30,420 --> 01:43:34,290
the military industrial complex
can enrich itself how do we

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01:43:34,290 --> 01:43:35,280
analyze this

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01:43:35,970 --> 01:43:40,710
John C Dvorak: misdirection
straight up you know it can

1804
01:43:40,740 --> 01:43:43,890
obviously be an opposite when
he's critical of the agency that

1805
01:43:43,890 --> 01:43:51,030
we're accusing him running the
OP but I think is gorgeous

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01:43:51,420 --> 01:43:54,720
Adam Curry: I was very impressed
by this whole sequence and then

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01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:57,480
went on for like eight minutes
it was I don't didn't clip

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01:43:57,480 --> 01:43:58,650
anything else but Oh, wow.

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01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:01,320
John C Dvorak: Look at him he's
bitching and moaning about him

1810
01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:05,550
but the complaint was it was
milk toasty if you think about

1811
01:44:05,550 --> 01:44:06,390
it so what

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01:44:08,610 --> 01:44:10,440
Adam Curry: that's the one thing
they're gonna stop doing huh?

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01:44:10,500 --> 01:44:14,490
They're gonna they're gonna stop
creating a pipeline for the true

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01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:18,810
Hey, we create this pipeline we
get nothing from you guys. We

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01:44:18,810 --> 01:44:22,830
got an in smuggle drugs and arms
and you guys just get it above

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01:44:22,830 --> 01:44:25,290
board in the NDAA

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01:44:26,460 --> 01:44:28,350
John C Dvorak: as part of the
thing is you get you make just

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01:44:28,350 --> 01:44:31,410
as much money without having to
manufacture anything if you're

1819
01:44:31,410 --> 01:44:36,300
just the arms dealer. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. Hey 50% markup.

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01:44:38,010 --> 01:44:39,900
Adam Curry: With that, I'd like
to thank you for your courage in

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01:44:39,900 --> 01:44:42,660
the morning to you the man who
put the sea in your Climate War,

1822
01:44:42,690 --> 01:44:45,390
please say hello to my friend on
the other end. Ladies gentlemen,

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01:44:45,450 --> 01:44:46,230
Mr. John.

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01:44:51,180 --> 01:44:52,470
John C Dvorak: In the morning,
you have a string of Korean

1825
01:44:52,470 --> 01:44:54,570
Memorial ships, the boots on the
ground feet in the air subs in

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01:44:54,570 --> 01:44:57,870
the water and the names and
nights out there

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01:44:58,590 --> 01:45:00,990
Adam Curry: in the morning to
patrol In the trial hold on

1828
01:45:00,990 --> 01:45:02,250
Stop. Wait Don't move

1829
01:45:02,460 --> 01:45:03,450
Unknown: down to things on

1830
01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:12,690
Adam Curry: there moving around
20 to 17 It's a blowout. It's a

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01:45:13,980 --> 01:45:16,620
John C Dvorak: big number for
Thursday. Anything over 2000s is

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01:45:16,620 --> 01:45:17,100
a big number.

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01:45:17,129 --> 01:45:19,649
Adam Curry: It's a troll blow
out to the Hello trolls, good to

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01:45:19,649 --> 01:45:24,509
have you here. You are welcome
into the into the donation

1835
01:45:24,509 --> 01:45:27,509
segment of the show where we
have a couple of special things

1836
01:45:27,509 --> 01:45:34,769
today which includes our
interview and our our winning

1837
01:45:34,769 --> 01:45:42,899
numbers for the lotto. I got a I
got a note from the producer

1838
01:45:42,899 --> 01:45:49,109
Adam Mackler. Adam I enjoy your
show occasionally, and write to

1839
01:45:49,109 --> 01:45:54,809
you rarely, however, hearing JCD
theory on the MPC Tiktok streams

1840
01:45:54,809 --> 01:45:59,879
being high end number stations,
which you said then you're

1841
01:45:59,879 --> 01:46:03,449
sticking to this theory that the
lick lick ice cream, banana,

1842
01:46:03,449 --> 01:46:08,309
whatever is high and number
stations juxtaposed with your

1843
01:46:08,309 --> 01:46:12,239
donation segment when you read
off amounts that people donate

1844
01:46:12,239 --> 01:46:15,659
was just too ironic for me to
let pass without comment.

1845
01:46:16,589 --> 01:46:19,919
Indeed, we are in number
station. That's exactly what we

1846
01:46:19,919 --> 01:46:23,819
are. We're handing out numbers
we've got trolls, the end,

1847
01:46:23,849 --> 01:46:27,959
perhaps agents intelligence
agents, sending out messages

1848
01:46:27,989 --> 01:46:30,749
around the world through the
show in the donation segment in

1849
01:46:30,749 --> 01:46:35,939
the form of numbers. You think
about it. That's very, very

1850
01:46:35,939 --> 01:46:41,639
possible I am I'm blown away by
your prowess producer. So trolls

1851
01:46:41,669 --> 01:46:45,599
are always collected. There they
are all together in the troll

1852
01:46:45,599 --> 01:46:49,019
room. Now you can listen along
with them troll along by going

1853
01:46:49,019 --> 01:46:52,319
to troll room.io, you'll just a
web page and you'll see a little

1854
01:46:52,319 --> 01:46:55,289
log in you can participate in
the troll room. And of course

1855
01:46:55,289 --> 01:46:57,749
get no agenda stream which you
can also do with no agenda

1856
01:46:57,749 --> 01:47:00,989
stream.com Or get a modern
podcast app. This is truly the

1857
01:47:00,989 --> 01:47:02,729
way to go. You're going to want
it because they're going to

1858
01:47:02,729 --> 01:47:05,789
start D platforming podcasts
again, across the board. The

1859
01:47:05,789 --> 01:47:08,519
ones you'd like listening to
will not will be taken off

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01:47:08,519 --> 01:47:11,129
apple. And when they get taken
off Apple they get taken off

1861
01:47:11,159 --> 01:47:14,939
other apps that everything suck
off the apple teat. But if

1862
01:47:14,939 --> 01:47:18,809
you've got a podcasting 2.0 app,
a modern one, you not only will

1863
01:47:18,809 --> 01:47:22,589
not see your favorite podcasting
platform, but there's 25 new

1864
01:47:22,589 --> 01:47:26,399
features 60 apps and services
are available. And you can find

1865
01:47:26,399 --> 01:47:29,039
that at podcast app.com
including the troll room and

1866
01:47:29,039 --> 01:47:32,369
live stream. It's all part of
the new wave of podcasting,

1867
01:47:32,489 --> 01:47:36,299
which is Openwave New Wave open
and protected. You can also and

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01:47:36,299 --> 01:47:40,379
I think it's time to consider a
purge of no agenda social.com

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01:47:40,379 --> 01:47:43,469
We've got people who want to
come into the system, we cap it

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01:47:43,469 --> 01:47:51,659
at 10,000. I'm going to ask Erin
her if he would consider purging

1871
01:47:51,659 --> 01:47:54,509
so anyone who hasn't used their
account for over a year will be

1872
01:47:54,509 --> 01:47:57,089
purged, and they will let some
new people in. You can follow

1873
01:47:57,839 --> 01:48:00,599
the social.com you can follow
from any Mastodon account that

1874
01:48:00,599 --> 01:48:06,179
believes in free speech. And,
and Jhansi Dvorak had no agenda

1875
01:48:06,179 --> 01:48:13,499
social.com By the way, I did. I
did an interview on The Patriot

1876
01:48:13,499 --> 01:48:18,509
radio country Patriot radio the
other day, which is like

1877
01:48:18,509 --> 01:48:21,539
everybody here in Hill Country
listens to it. It's I would say

1878
01:48:21,539 --> 01:48:26,339
it's Magga. Its moms for
liberty. It's the Tea Party

1879
01:48:26,339 --> 01:48:31,499
still exist out here. And Matt
long who host this. He says, You

1880
01:48:31,499 --> 01:48:36,029
know, I really love to vorak He
always sounds like he's two

1881
01:48:36,029 --> 01:48:42,149
shots from being shit faced. And
I realize that I don't know. He

1882
01:48:42,149 --> 01:48:45,569
says that's just what you sound
like. I could not agree. It's

1883
01:48:45,569 --> 01:48:48,689
kind of your voice I have it
could not could not agree. Oh,

1884
01:48:48,719 --> 01:48:51,449
and before it. So this is the
donation segments. This is where

1885
01:48:51,449 --> 01:48:55,799
you get all the special info. We
had Nick and Suzanne over for

1886
01:48:55,799 --> 01:49:01,739
dinner. Suzanne Santos she's the
the songwriter who loves us who

1887
01:49:01,739 --> 01:49:04,229
was on Rogen. Oh, but I'm not
she loves us. And her husband

1888
01:49:04,229 --> 01:49:09,539
Nick, who created wrote and
produced the HBO hit series two

1889
01:49:09,539 --> 01:49:12,449
detective seasons one, two and
three

1890
01:49:12,930 --> 01:49:15,300
John C Dvorak: verses sounds
like a winner. Yes, very

1891
01:49:15,300 --> 01:49:16,290
successful dinner.

1892
01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:20,070
Adam Curry: So he's the guy that
told me that once they hit July,

1893
01:49:20,340 --> 01:49:23,550
they were going to screw the
writers. Remember this

1894
01:49:23,550 --> 01:49:27,720
conversation? Yeah. So I said
well, what happened? He said,

1895
01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:31,530
Well, we hit July but then the
actors went on strike. We had it

1896
01:49:31,530 --> 01:49:36,900
all set up. And he says the
industry currently does not

1897
01:49:36,900 --> 01:49:40,500
think the strikes will be over
until the new year

1898
01:49:42,210 --> 01:49:45,600
John C Dvorak: until January
2024 Correct.

1899
01:49:46,500 --> 01:49:50,700
Adam Curry: And he says the
streamers love it. They just

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01:49:50,700 --> 01:49:54,090
pushing their catalogue. They
don't really want to make any

1901
01:49:54,090 --> 01:49:56,100
new stuff. They don't have the
money. It's not where

1902
01:49:56,100 --> 01:49:57,660
John C Dvorak: they got it.
Plenty old stuff that nobody

1903
01:49:57,660 --> 01:49:59,970
watches so they can just
repurpose it and

1904
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:02,400
Adam Curry: He says their stock
prices are going up because

1905
01:50:02,400 --> 01:50:04,860
everyone knows that they're not
going to be spending any money.

1906
01:50:05,040 --> 01:50:09,240
Their capex is going down, stock
price goes up. He says that

1907
01:50:09,270 --> 01:50:11,700
they're loving it. So there you
go, what

1908
01:50:11,700 --> 01:50:13,440
John C Dvorak: is his what is
his take on the whole thing?

1909
01:50:13,440 --> 01:50:16,500
Does he think that the writers
and actors have been suckered?

1910
01:50:18,720 --> 01:50:20,730
Adam Curry: I don't want to
speak for him. But it sounds to

1911
01:50:20,730 --> 01:50:25,590
me like he feels the writers of
being completely unrealistic. So

1912
01:50:25,590 --> 01:50:28,350
unrealistic. But again, I don't
want to I don't want to speak

1913
01:50:28,350 --> 01:50:32,400
for him. Because, you know,
industry people listen to this.

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01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:34,470
And I don't want people to think
he's a douchebag. Because he's a

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01:50:34,470 --> 01:50:39,840
really sweet guy. And, man, they
like, oh, we want to live in

1916
01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:40,650
Fredericksburg. Now.

1917
01:50:42,330 --> 01:50:43,140
John C Dvorak: Where are they
from?

1918
01:50:43,500 --> 01:50:44,220
Adam Curry: They live in Austin.

1919
01:50:44,250 --> 01:50:46,710
John C Dvorak: They both they
gotta move out of Austin. So

1920
01:50:47,010 --> 01:50:49,830
Adam Curry: most of them escaped
California to move to Austin

1921
01:50:49,830 --> 01:50:51,990
when COVID hit. That's why and
that's what

1922
01:50:52,140 --> 01:50:54,510
John C Dvorak: they've noticed
has become California looks like

1923
01:50:54,510 --> 01:50:55,530
San Francisco.

1924
01:50:55,560 --> 01:50:59,280
Adam Curry: People believe me,
they're both seeing this. And

1925
01:50:59,940 --> 01:51:02,700
now she's six months pregnant.
So I don't know if she wants to

1926
01:51:03,030 --> 01:51:06,540
move before they get warm
tomorrow. But well, they were

1927
01:51:06,690 --> 01:51:12,480
apparently they were looking on
Zillow all the way home. Anyway,

1928
01:51:13,290 --> 01:51:16,530
value for value was the name of
our game. That's, that's how we

1929
01:51:16,530 --> 01:51:18,810
can actually bring this
information to you. If you think

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01:51:18,810 --> 01:51:21,750
any of the things we said here
today will be possible with

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01:51:21,750 --> 01:51:28,410
sponsors. Yeah, we might be able
to get Squarespace may be you

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01:51:28,410 --> 01:51:31,800
know, but I'm even doubtful of
that. Because the things that

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01:51:31,800 --> 01:51:35,250
Copics we discuss are
polarizing. And we don't

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01:51:35,280 --> 01:51:38,880
sugarcoat it. And we certainly
don't self censor, the only way

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01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:42,660
to do that is by having listener
support. And we don't have

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01:51:42,660 --> 01:51:45,390
listeners, either, because we
have producers, that's how the

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01:51:45,390 --> 01:51:49,530
model the model works. We give
you value six hours more than

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01:51:49,530 --> 01:51:54,060
that per week, that's a full
season on Netflix and Amazon.

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01:51:54,090 --> 01:51:57,540
That's the type of entertainment
and content we bring you, which

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01:51:57,540 --> 01:52:02,070
makes a lot of people feel
relieved, makes you feel safe

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01:52:02,070 --> 01:52:05,490
makes you feel loved, makes you
feel like the world is not

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01:52:05,490 --> 01:52:09,840
burning around you, it spins you
down in the spun up world. And

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01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:12,660
all we ask for is that you
return that value in whichever

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01:52:12,660 --> 01:52:16,050
manner you can very few people
do this. Very few people return

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01:52:16,050 --> 01:52:18,480
value, but the people who do do
it with time, talent, or

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01:52:18,480 --> 01:52:21,750
treasure, so we have all kinds
of time and talent being

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01:52:21,750 --> 01:52:26,460
applied. It's really wonderful.
The servers, the shops, the

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01:52:26,460 --> 01:52:29,850
jingles, I mean, just so many
things are being are being

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01:52:29,850 --> 01:52:33,060
created for us that it's the
only way to make it work when

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01:52:33,060 --> 01:52:37,770
you hear a podcast. Spotify, by
the way, is basically going out

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01:52:37,770 --> 01:52:41,970
of business. Again, the day,
they lost a quarter billion

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01:52:41,970 --> 01:52:45,420
dollars again, up now or we're
gonna raise the price that'll

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01:52:45,420 --> 01:52:49,200
help the record companies are
about to end the publishers are

1954
01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:52,740
about to raise their rates on
them again, they fired the whole

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01:52:52,740 --> 01:52:56,640
podcast division, you can't
monetize the network, it's a bad

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01:52:56,670 --> 01:53:00,480
idea. All you need to do is ask
people to return value and you

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01:53:00,480 --> 01:53:03,930
can't do it when you have
hundreds of producers comment on

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01:53:03,960 --> 01:53:09,570
this one lady producer. And
she's like, I created the the

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01:53:09,570 --> 01:53:14,760
Harry and Megan podcast, it was
me producers deserve the credit.

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01:53:17,340 --> 01:53:20,940
Okay, oh, yeah, I know. It's
really she's an ex and PR

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01:53:20,970 --> 01:53:26,250
person. So I understand what's
coming from. Anyway, we just

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01:53:26,250 --> 01:53:30,840
asked you to provide that value
back and an easy way to do it,

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01:53:30,840 --> 01:53:35,010
which everybody can do in any
amount that shows your value is

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01:53:35,010 --> 01:53:39,510
through treasure, and is by
going to direct.org/na and keep

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01:53:39,510 --> 01:53:43,380
us on the air. I mean, if we
don't get value back it ends

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01:53:43,380 --> 01:53:46,740
eventually. So we're very
humbled that people have

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01:53:46,740 --> 01:53:48,870
supported us once again. But
first we want to thank our

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01:53:48,870 --> 01:53:53,700
artists and the artists deliver
a very important service we have

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01:53:53,700 --> 01:53:58,080
some proof that having fresh art
to promote every single new

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01:53:58,080 --> 01:54:01,920
episode with is great. It draws
people in it reminds people what

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01:54:01,920 --> 01:54:05,760
a great podcast this is. Even
those who haven't read it in the

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01:54:05,820 --> 01:54:08,310
in the Muller and the Durham
report because it says right

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01:54:08,310 --> 01:54:11,490
there with the best podcast in
the universe. So when you see

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01:54:11,490 --> 01:54:17,250
the artwork from Sir Schug aka
fo diddley people know that this

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01:54:17,250 --> 01:54:22,320
show is switched on. And this
was for episode 1575 titled

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01:54:22,320 --> 01:54:26,220
number station appropriately.
This was the crunchy cricket no

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01:54:26,220 --> 01:54:31,740
agenda hot pocket. And it was it
was hard once again to choose

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01:54:31,740 --> 01:54:35,970
from the variety that was given
to us. We like this. It had the

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01:54:35,970 --> 01:54:41,610
Hot Pocket logo with the no
agenda. Branding in there. It

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01:54:41,610 --> 01:54:44,730
said media deconstruct a lot of
small stuff but the stuff that

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01:54:44,730 --> 01:54:48,990
was in there crunchy cricket
flavor made with 100 100% 100%

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01:54:49,020 --> 01:54:53,850
Real crickets leads to bugs
saves the world 33 pack it had

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01:54:53,850 --> 01:54:55,380
all the means we're looking for.

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John C Dvorak: Well, let's start
with you not liking this piece

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01:55:01,530 --> 01:55:02,070
Correct?

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01:55:02,760 --> 01:55:04,800
Adam Curry: Yeah, well I liked
other one I

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01:55:05,850 --> 01:55:11,250
John C Dvorak: heard the no
agenda jam did drones piece when

1988
01:55:11,280 --> 01:55:14,940
I did? Yeah you did you liked
that piece and I had to dissuade

1989
01:55:14,940 --> 01:55:21,240
you by saying it is by QUB the
boob. By SE is to is to to a

1990
01:55:21,900 --> 01:55:25,710
Adam Curry: light light it was a
jammed oh you have the like,

1991
01:55:26,070 --> 01:55:27,630
like a stamp and look like YEAH.

1992
01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:30,960
John C Dvorak: OKAY is one of
the types we go for a lot. I

1993
01:55:30,960 --> 01:55:34,890
thought we go for two things.
Probably more than we should one

1994
01:55:34,890 --> 01:55:40,140
is that look which is a stamp or
a logo look challenge on the

1995
01:55:40,140 --> 01:55:43,350
other one is, as you said, with
no agenda crunchy cricket one

1996
01:55:43,410 --> 01:55:45,510
hour. It's just another package.

1997
01:55:46,350 --> 01:55:49,140
Adam Curry: This was exactly
what I said. Another package.

1998
01:55:49,140 --> 01:55:49,680
Yes,

1999
01:55:49,770 --> 01:55:54,150
John C Dvorak: exactly. And it
wasn't, does nothing that could

2000
01:55:54,150 --> 01:55:55,500
top it was the problem.

2001
01:55:55,530 --> 01:55:58,800
Adam Curry: I did actually for a
moment there but consider

2002
01:55:58,800 --> 01:55:59,970
Qamishli bloggers

2003
01:56:00,000 --> 01:56:03,030
John C Dvorak: scorched earth
that was going nowhere.

2004
01:56:03,960 --> 01:56:06,780
Adam Curry: All the cocaine
shark stuff was that had no

2005
01:56:06,780 --> 01:56:09,510
chance. We're not going to
promote Shark Week.

2006
01:56:10,140 --> 01:56:13,830
John C Dvorak: No, we're not
ever emoting somebody else's

2007
01:56:13,830 --> 01:56:18,120
product necessarily. No, no, no.
You're less just to mock them.

2008
01:56:18,180 --> 01:56:19,110
Yes.

2009
01:56:20,130 --> 01:56:26,520
Adam Curry: Yes. They so yeah.
Now and I believe that sir Schug

2010
01:56:26,520 --> 01:56:29,910
has, has actually produced
several pieces of artwork never

2011
01:56:29,910 --> 01:56:34,200
been chosen. No. He's gotten
he's come close, I think.

2012
01:56:34,680 --> 01:56:36,900
John C Dvorak: I'm reminded the
guy who puts in his fridge. This

2013
01:56:36,900 --> 01:56:40,800
has happened maybe twice in 15
years. Some newbie comes along,

2014
01:56:41,010 --> 01:56:45,600
puts in his first piece piece of
art wins, boom, right? never

2015
01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:46,620
shows up again.

2016
01:56:47,130 --> 01:56:49,890
Adam Curry: Well, that's
possible. Of course, that is

2017
01:56:49,890 --> 01:56:50,550
possible.

2018
01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:52,650
John C Dvorak: Well, witters,

2019
01:56:52,740 --> 01:56:55,620
Adam Curry: we we certainly
appreciate you, sir Schug, aka

2020
01:56:55,620 --> 01:56:58,260
fo Diddley. We appreciate the
work of all the artists, they

2021
01:56:58,260 --> 01:57:02,550
put their heart and soul into
it. You can see it and you know,

2022
01:57:02,580 --> 01:57:04,860
but we're going to be honest,
that's the one thing that's some

2023
01:57:04,860 --> 01:57:08,700
value get even if you're not
chosen. In addition, Dred Scott

2024
01:57:08,700 --> 01:57:11,520
who does the chapters if you're
using a modern podcast app,

2025
01:57:12,060 --> 01:57:14,460
which you can see rotate right
in your dashboard. If you're

2026
01:57:14,460 --> 01:57:18,120
using the app in the car, he
uses a lot of these pieces of

2027
01:57:18,120 --> 01:57:20,850
art and it's very funny to see
them pop up in conjunction with

2028
01:57:20,850 --> 01:57:24,090
topics as we're talking about
them. Thank you all very much.

2029
01:57:24,090 --> 01:57:26,970
You can go to no agenda art
generator.com. As always, you

2030
01:57:26,970 --> 01:57:29,880
can participate. You can be an
artist, you can upload it. It's

2031
01:57:29,880 --> 01:57:33,570
that simple. Now for the
treasurer, we're going to thank

2032
01:57:33,570 --> 01:57:36,690
some executive and Associate
Executive producers. These are

2033
01:57:36,690 --> 01:57:40,140
real credits. They are valid
anywhere that credits are

2034
01:57:40,140 --> 01:57:43,920
accepted. These days, you can
put on your LinkedIn you can use

2035
01:57:43,920 --> 01:57:46,920
it on your IMDB you can start in
IMDb with you can become a

2036
01:57:46,920 --> 01:57:49,740
member of the producer unions
not free. But you can say here's

2037
01:57:49,740 --> 01:57:54,420
my credit let me and we start
with a fan favorite. Once a

2038
01:57:54,420 --> 01:57:57,900
month he comes in speaking of
number stations, it is the one

2039
01:57:57,900 --> 01:58:00,570
and only sir autonomous of
Dogpatch and Lois LeBeau via

2040
01:58:00,750 --> 01:58:05,970
location unknown vocation
unknown and reason for numbers

2041
01:58:05,970 --> 01:58:12,270
donated unknown, but man does he
come in and save the month? 2033

2042
01:58:13,170 --> 01:58:15,330
and I'm sure there was some $2
bills in there.

2043
01:58:17,070 --> 01:58:19,200
John C Dvorak: Yes, as a matter
of fact, there were four of him

2044
01:58:20,580 --> 01:58:24,120
Adam Curry: and he believes in
$2 bills as a messaging system I

2045
01:58:24,120 --> 01:58:28,260
guess. And he always sends a
note which we're happy to read

2046
01:58:28,260 --> 01:58:31,890
and this is sent to the mail
always from different mailbox

2047
01:58:31,920 --> 01:58:36,630
and typed on is this printed
thicknesses are printed it's

2048
01:58:36,630 --> 01:58:39,000
printed yeah though, so we
should be able to track that

2049
01:58:39,000 --> 01:58:43,500
printer when the he may be the
hidden code that be thank you to

2050
01:58:43,500 --> 01:58:46,260
all the producers for their hard
work your media deconstruction

2051
01:58:46,260 --> 01:58:50,550
and analysis is outstanding of
mailing my donation between

2052
01:58:50,550 --> 01:58:53,880
travel demands and yes, people
everyone's an expert at

2053
01:58:53,880 --> 01:58:56,850
something email us if you've got
something to say about something

2054
01:58:56,850 --> 01:59:03,480
you know something about John.
Arranged marriages are not

2055
01:59:03,480 --> 01:59:07,620
because of people being lazy. It
has always been to maintain

2056
01:59:07,620 --> 01:59:10,860
wealth, power and bloodline
daughters have been married to

2057
01:59:10,860 --> 01:59:15,090
trees, so the sons got larger
shares of land and to avoid

2058
01:59:15,090 --> 01:59:19,320
family bloodshed. All this is a
history lesson. Families that

2059
01:59:19,320 --> 01:59:22,770
insist on pedigrees for dogs or
horses will do no less for their

2060
01:59:22,770 --> 01:59:25,980
children to assure their future
grandchildren maintain their

2061
01:59:25,980 --> 01:59:30,480
wealth, power and bloodline
bloodline. separately. I want to

2062
01:59:30,480 --> 01:59:34,710
share our nephew's claim of
being LGBTQ using his

2063
01:59:34,710 --> 01:59:41,400
definition. Let's go by the
Koran. Okay, we know something

2064
01:59:41,400 --> 01:59:45,120
about strong animus after
intense political criticism on

2065
01:59:45,120 --> 01:59:48,570
the selective removal of adult
body parts prescribed as a

2066
01:59:48,570 --> 01:59:51,840
punishment for theft. Please
deconstruct the politically

2067
01:59:51,840 --> 01:59:55,560
supported selected removal of
children's body parts by adults

2068
01:59:55,560 --> 01:59:59,970
as moral high ground always with
a brain twister in their search.

2069
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:03,900
Anonymous rationales such as
emotional distress by children

2070
02:00:03,900 --> 02:00:07,980
should be compared to thieves
often mental illness or steal or

2071
02:00:07,980 --> 02:00:18,360
starve situation. Wow. Deep.
Deep some Yeah, sir autonomous.

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02:00:19,080 --> 02:00:20,850
John C Dvorak: This is one of
the few notes where he doesn't

2073
02:00:20,850 --> 02:00:23,760
put in j n k for some reason

2074
02:00:23,790 --> 02:00:26,040
Adam Curry: ha. And more code.

2075
02:00:27,090 --> 02:00:31,920
John C Dvorak: No, we're onward
from Sir anonymous, the Janus

2076
02:00:31,920 --> 02:00:36,990
Hall. Thank you sir autonomous
and she's an sakto otherwise

2077
02:00:36,990 --> 02:00:40,380
known as Sacramento. Today I
mail an envelope off to the best

2078
02:00:40,380 --> 02:00:43,230
damn podcast in the universe
which contained this note a

2079
02:00:43,230 --> 02:00:47,190
check for $1,000 in the dime
baggie containing 35 cents

2080
02:00:47,190 --> 02:00:53,070
Dimebag 33 cents is for you know
why and the last two pennies are

2081
02:00:53,070 --> 02:01:00,450
for the pod fathers coin jar.
Thank you. My donation last year

2082
02:01:00,450 --> 02:01:04,620
for episode 1451 $1,000
requested no knighting or

2083
02:01:04,620 --> 02:01:07,560
anything. This year. However,
I'd like to request a seat at

2084
02:01:07,560 --> 02:01:12,630
the round table to be knighted
as the barren net tests of the

2085
02:01:12,630 --> 02:01:18,000
rustling and forest I'd love to
have prime rib a baked potato

2086
02:01:18,000 --> 02:01:21,300
and a nice glass of red wine
while dining after I'm knighted.

2087
02:01:21,960 --> 02:01:26,640
John C. Love hearing your new
musical instruments while

2088
02:01:26,640 --> 02:01:33,450
listening to the live show. Big
keep the show light hearted

2089
02:01:33,630 --> 02:01:37,380
while listening to Sirius
subjects. Pod Father

2090
02:01:37,410 --> 02:01:37,770
Adam Curry: Yes

2091
02:01:37,800 --> 02:01:40,260
John C Dvorak: No worries over
the sound of your voice using

2092
02:01:40,260 --> 02:01:46,140
your new temporary choppers. You
sound marvelous as usual. Thank

2093
02:01:46,140 --> 02:01:49,950
you. Please offer everyone in
the gizmo nation to double up

2094
02:01:49,950 --> 02:01:54,150
karma. We all need it this year.
John Adams very best to you and

2095
02:01:54,150 --> 02:01:59,130
your family's love is light.
Janice, the law of karma by

2096
02:01:59,130 --> 02:02:03,120
request. Karma.

2097
02:02:03,780 --> 02:02:09,240
Adam Curry: No people. Please
Please respect your fellow

2098
02:02:09,240 --> 02:02:13,590
producers. Your notes are
becoming long again. I'm gonna

2099
02:02:13,590 --> 02:02:17,130
have to start editing on the
fly. I don't like doing that you

2100
02:02:17,130 --> 02:02:20,880
should edit the way we edit.
Jennifer Wilson is in Calgary,

2101
02:02:21,030 --> 02:02:26,100
Alberta, Canada. Navia $500
executive producer. Hi John. I'm

2102
02:02:26,100 --> 02:02:29,610
okay. You both really know how
to make a girl feel ungrateful.

2103
02:02:29,610 --> 02:02:33,840
Geez. haven't felt that guilty
even after a bad date. I was

2104
02:02:33,840 --> 02:02:36,870
punched in the mouth on a road
trip to the Coots border with my

2105
02:02:36,870 --> 02:02:41,430
boss in support of the truckers
blockade. I guess he was sick of

2106
02:02:41,430 --> 02:02:44,160
me chatting in the hallway. So
we asked. Have you heard the

2107
02:02:44,160 --> 02:02:47,790
show? No agenda. I didn't want
to admit that. I'd never

2108
02:02:47,790 --> 02:02:51,450
listened to a podcast before you
guys had me laughing all the way

2109
02:02:51,450 --> 02:02:55,290
home to Calgary and now I listen
every show sometimes even twice.

2110
02:02:55,620 --> 02:03:00,360
I'm only asking for a 95% de
douching because I did donate

2111
02:03:00,360 --> 02:03:07,770
last year for Adam's birthday.
You spent 95% I was hoping the

2112
02:03:07,770 --> 02:03:10,350
same would come up in the
newsletter for JCD hell, maybe

2113
02:03:10,350 --> 02:03:12,870
it did. And I was so busy with
tax season I may have missed it.

2114
02:03:12,900 --> 02:03:14,880
I listened to every show
faithfully usually in the

2115
02:03:14,880 --> 02:03:18,030
mornings in the car. My son
thinks I'm crazy when I jump in

2116
02:03:18,030 --> 02:03:20,850
your conversation and make my
own comments. Or just start

2117
02:03:20,850 --> 02:03:23,400
laughing so hard listening to
the banter between the two of

2118
02:03:23,400 --> 02:03:31,200
you. I am quietly cheering John
on when he is right. Yeah. Well,

2119
02:03:31,230 --> 02:03:34,170
you know women like you better
we that's been established.

2120
02:03:34,590 --> 02:03:37,230
First. Oh, I have two comments
because I know John doesn't like

2121
02:03:37,230 --> 02:03:37,860
long notes.

2122
02:03:40,530 --> 02:03:43,260
John C Dvorak: The middle of
extremely long note first

2123
02:03:43,260 --> 02:03:45,840
Adam Curry: I know COVID has
pretty much overharvest prior na

2124
02:03:45,840 --> 02:03:48,930
shows pertaining to Alberta has
the highest unknown deaths in

2125
02:03:48,930 --> 02:03:52,830
Canada. He's very close to home.
Your June 11 Show was the one

2126
02:03:52,830 --> 02:03:56,430
year anniversary of my dad's
sudden passing. I believe it had

2127
02:03:56,430 --> 02:03:59,430
to do with taking three killer
shots. And I saw it as a no

2128
02:03:59,430 --> 02:04:03,390
agenda sign to donate in his
honor. I failed mainly because I

2129
02:04:03,420 --> 02:04:06,240
just couldn't find the words to
thank both of you for getting me

2130
02:04:06,240 --> 02:04:10,170
through the past year. I really
do hope the two of you have some

2131
02:04:10,170 --> 02:04:13,320
sense of importance to a very
large number of people keep

2132
02:04:13,320 --> 02:04:16,320
nagging the listeners. It will
pay off. We're not nagging.

2133
02:04:16,350 --> 02:04:19,800
We're just being transparently
honest. Second, John, I crack up

2134
02:04:19,800 --> 02:04:22,890
with every donation segment when
you must list the city and

2135
02:04:22,890 --> 02:04:27,210
towns. I just can't take it
anymore. The city in British

2136
02:04:27,210 --> 02:04:33,000
Columbia is Nan IMO Nanaimo.
Cheers, fellas, I greatly

2137
02:04:33,000 --> 02:04:35,970
appreciate what you do. Jennifer
Wilson. Thank you, Jennifer.

2138
02:04:37,980 --> 02:04:39,690
John C Dvorak: Well, I pronounce
it Nanaimo.

2139
02:04:39,720 --> 02:04:42,780
Adam Curry: It's not an IMO.
Yeah, well,

2140
02:04:43,469 --> 02:04:46,169
John C Dvorak: she where she
where she located in Alberta.

2141
02:04:47,039 --> 02:04:51,299
Well, that's nowhere near
Nanaimo. I live. I live within

2142
02:04:51,299 --> 02:04:54,779
driving distance to this little
town which is north of Victoria,

2143
02:04:54,779 --> 02:04:58,079
Canada on the island. And as far
as I know, everybody there

2144
02:04:58,079 --> 02:04:59,519
pronounces it Nanaimo.

2145
02:04:59,550 --> 02:05:02,190
Adam Curry: Okay? He will stop
making why argue with the

2146
02:05:02,190 --> 02:05:07,170
customer? I'm just saying,
because that's what we do is the

2147
02:05:07,170 --> 02:05:09,660
answer. That's your no agenda.
So that's

2148
02:05:09,660 --> 02:05:13,920
John C Dvorak: my answer. Yeah.
Vert, fuller, or word in

2149
02:05:13,920 --> 02:05:18,330
Batavia, New York for 1596. And
he wrote, I sent a check in and

2150
02:05:18,330 --> 02:05:21,870
wrote a little cute little note.
Cute little piece of paper with

2151
02:05:21,870 --> 02:05:26,640
a butterfly on it. Oh, how cute.
Again, I am sending you my state

2152
02:05:26,640 --> 02:05:30,900
license plate, which is 41596

2153
02:05:30,930 --> 02:05:32,040
Adam Curry: I like this idea.

2154
02:05:32,549 --> 02:05:35,669
John C Dvorak: It's a great
idea. There must be more New

2155
02:05:35,669 --> 02:05:40,619
Yorkers with a license plate
that ends in NA iOS is 41596.

2156
02:05:40,679 --> 02:05:45,269
And a well that means yeah,
there's got to be 1000s of them.

2157
02:05:45,299 --> 02:05:50,429
Yep. And there's got to be many
who are listeners of the podcast

2158
02:05:50,429 --> 02:05:55,769
hoping so hoping so I challenged
them to send the dollar value of

2159
02:05:55,769 --> 02:05:59,069
their license plate. For the
good of the show.

2160
02:05:59,100 --> 02:06:01,290
Adam Curry: I liked this
challenge. It's a good one.

2161
02:06:01,320 --> 02:06:04,770
John C Dvorak: This should make
me a knight. But what's more

2162
02:06:04,770 --> 02:06:11,610
important is you're here for me
twice a week with London was

2163
02:06:11,610 --> 02:06:14,340
London down the knighting list I
don't know.

2164
02:06:15,540 --> 02:06:18,420
Adam Curry: He or she words I
think word is

2165
02:06:18,660 --> 02:06:21,780
John C Dvorak: word dar IVIG
could be a sheet but

2166
02:06:22,380 --> 02:06:24,840
Adam Curry: handwriting looks
Hamlet handwriting looks like a

2167
02:06:24,840 --> 02:06:28,740
sheet to be honest. He did a
little bit work is not on the

2168
02:06:28,740 --> 02:06:29,280
list.

2169
02:06:30,510 --> 02:06:31,260
John C Dvorak: Oh good.

2170
02:06:31,470 --> 02:06:33,060
Adam Curry: So what do I do here
work fuller

2171
02:06:33,090 --> 02:06:33,930
John C Dvorak: but you're on the
list.

2172
02:06:34,170 --> 02:06:35,490
Adam Curry: Okay him or her?

2173
02:06:36,240 --> 02:06:38,730
John C Dvorak: Oh, well that's
okay. We have can't be put

2174
02:06:38,730 --> 02:06:41,640
around him or her on the list
that we need to get information

2175
02:06:41,640 --> 02:06:45,510
man. New information needs to be
coming to light Yeah.

2176
02:06:45,540 --> 02:06:50,160
Adam Curry: So we'll do it next.
Next show next show. I'm up.

2177
02:06:50,460 --> 02:06:54,210
Here we go. We have Troy
Peterson battlefield Missouri

2178
02:06:54,210 --> 02:06:57,630
three eight O dot O eight in the
morning gents halfway to

2179
02:06:57,630 --> 02:07:01,110
knighthood. I love you guys and
thank you for and thank you for

2180
02:07:01,110 --> 02:07:05,070
the best podcast in the
universe. 380 dot O eight is

2181
02:07:05,070 --> 02:07:08,520
boob augmentation. Thank you.

2182
02:07:08,549 --> 02:07:09,629
John C Dvorak: Maybe they missed
the mark.

2183
02:07:09,660 --> 02:07:11,220
Adam Curry: Yeah, it did.

2184
02:07:11,910 --> 02:07:17,460
John C Dvorak: Nathan try wig
trade. Nice. Nathan Trey wick in

2185
02:07:17,460 --> 02:07:23,940
San Antonio Texas. 34543 A
jingles? Dolly's got his jingle

2186
02:07:23,940 --> 02:07:28,350
request. Trump I'm coming whole
load bah Obama no and hot

2187
02:07:28,350 --> 02:07:29,310
pockets.

2188
02:07:31,260 --> 02:07:34,110
Adam Curry: That's it. Oh,
that's it. That's it. Oh, no.

2189
02:07:34,770 --> 02:07:36,360
Oh, yes. Okay, well, I can do
that. I'm

2190
02:07:36,360 --> 02:07:40,110
John C Dvorak: gonna come boy.
Oh, also goat karma.

2191
02:07:40,530 --> 02:07:43,320
Adam Curry: See? i You screwed
me your right all right.

2192
02:07:44,310 --> 02:07:47,160
Unknown: I'm gonna give you the
whole load today. I've been

2193
02:07:47,160 --> 02:07:48,090
watching you

2194
02:07:58,890 --> 02:08:03,960
I love you you've got

2195
02:08:08,040 --> 02:08:09,210
John C Dvorak: somewhat lewd

2196
02:08:11,310 --> 02:08:15,360
Adam Curry: it's not a it's not
like it's something new. You

2197
02:08:15,360 --> 02:08:21,030
know? Not like it's new. But
okay. Where's my ticket to the

2198
02:08:21,030 --> 02:08:23,940
bank? Here we go. Brian Wolf.
Thank you. Please do this while

2199
02:08:23,940 --> 02:08:24,930
I while I line them up.

2200
02:08:24,960 --> 02:08:28,140
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he's in Dix
Hills, New York. And he gave

2201
02:08:28,140 --> 02:08:33,480
3333 for the extra penny there.
This is the third consecutive

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donation that brings me to
$1,000 and I couldn't be more

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02:08:37,260 --> 02:08:40,710
excited. I will be switching now
to a monthly donation to help

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02:08:40,740 --> 02:08:44,940
keep the support coming. Please
Knight me sir wolf pack altra.

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02:08:45,810 --> 02:08:49,770
And you're on the list and I get
a Shut up already. It's science,

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02:08:50,100 --> 02:08:56,400
which is an oldie. Obama take
that to the bank. Lone Wolf. And

2207
02:08:56,400 --> 02:09:02,040
our two d two karma. Thank you
for your courage. Already. Take

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02:09:02,040 --> 02:09:02,790
that to the bank.

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Unknown: You've got

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02:09:12,810 --> 02:09:16,410
Adam Curry: 333 from Ryan George
and 33 cents our favorite. He'd

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02:09:16,410 --> 02:09:18,690
like to make a switcheroo
donation for a smokin hot

2212
02:09:18,690 --> 02:09:23,250
girlfriend Danielle Doherty Your
wish is my command Danielle will

2213
02:09:23,250 --> 02:09:26,370
get the credit for this no
problem. She said Horowitz makes

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02:09:26,370 --> 02:09:30,870
too it takes too many days off.
Donate to no agenda. I'm looking

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02:09:30,870 --> 02:09:35,370
at is that is that what it is?
With? switcher route switcher.

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02:09:35,370 --> 02:09:41,760
Oh, can I have a Boom shakalaka
sorry, Andrew. She says he says

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02:09:41,760 --> 02:09:43,890
I should say okay, Danielle,
Danielle. I

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02:09:43,890 --> 02:09:45,210
John C Dvorak: wouldn't worry
about he doesn't listen to the

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02:09:45,210 --> 02:09:49,920
show. He does, too. He listens
all the time. Jeff Green does

2220
02:09:49,920 --> 02:09:53,040
for sure because he gave us
333 30 threes in Sweetwater,

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02:09:53,040 --> 02:09:57,780
Texas, and he wrote another note
on a piece of paper. He wrote it

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02:09:57,780 --> 02:10:02,280
by hand. Oh Our Executive
Producer Jeff Green Sweetwater,

2223
02:10:02,310 --> 02:10:07,860
I Miss Adams. Quote, Adam reads
his Facebook comments By the

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02:10:07,860 --> 02:10:14,490
way, guess who else misses that?
Me? Adam, please find an

2225
02:10:14,490 --> 02:10:21,840
equivalent bit. I've been a
douchebag since show one. Oh, I

2226
02:10:21,900 --> 02:10:25,800
bet felt sad imagining life
without no agenda. You go you

2227
02:10:25,800 --> 02:10:28,290
all the best. Please de douche
me.

2228
02:10:30,060 --> 02:10:31,920
Unknown: You've been de deuced

2229
02:10:32,700 --> 02:10:35,250
John C Dvorak: and he wants
these clips. Please don't eat

2230
02:10:35,250 --> 02:10:40,170
me. Bow Jaiden which is what it
really is Trump they took dumps.

2231
02:10:40,410 --> 02:10:43,770
And Lady. That's true love Jeff.

2232
02:10:43,950 --> 02:10:46,410
Adam Curry: Is it? Is it the
bhoga? It will because there are

2233
02:10:46,410 --> 02:10:47,940
two there's the bo Jo there

2234
02:10:47,940 --> 02:10:50,070
John C Dvorak: is an eat me Bo
Jaya Joe Biden when they play

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02:10:50,070 --> 02:10:50,880
that one. Sorry.

2236
02:10:51,360 --> 02:10:53,550
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, no. And
I want to kind of play both of

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02:10:53,550 --> 02:10:55,440
them. Why not? Here we go.

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02:11:00,960 --> 02:11:06,840
Unknown: Again, they call him
dumps big, massive dumps. That's

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02:11:06,840 --> 02:11:09,960
Adam Curry: true. You go there
you go. Beautiful little

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sequence.

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John C Dvorak: I read Carmenere
at the end. There is now

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02:11:15,150 --> 02:11:16,830
Unknown: you've got karma.

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02:11:18,480 --> 02:11:22,320
Adam Curry: Notes. So long
people I'm just saying now is

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02:11:22,320 --> 02:11:30,150
actually a short note. Kelly
Allison is not short. In the

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02:11:30,150 --> 02:11:33,600
morning, this is 269 Associate
Executive Producer cash is king

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02:11:33,600 --> 02:11:36,390
for now and my husband and I are
big proponents of using it

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02:11:36,390 --> 02:11:39,150
everywhere and often. One, one.

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02:11:40,890 --> 02:11:46,650
John C Dvorak: Okay, I I should
probably discuss this. So a box

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02:11:46,650 --> 02:11:51,630
comes in the mail with a couple
of cans of soda. Which one of

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them sounds terrific rose
flavored sparkling water. And a

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02:11:57,030 --> 02:12:03,960
pile of ones $1 bills a pile?
Like like 200 of them like a

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02:12:03,960 --> 02:12:07,980
dump, like big dumps like a big
giant dump. And fives and I'm

2253
02:12:07,980 --> 02:12:13,920
thinking is this a stripper that
is sending this money? And her

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02:12:13,920 --> 02:12:19,380
name is Kelly Allison was kind
of provocative. I have no idea.

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But she's Mimi does the same
thing was she and she's not a

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02:12:23,160 --> 02:12:27,750
stripper. She said when she sees
one, she puts them in a pile of

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02:12:27,750 --> 02:12:30,510
ones. And so there's this huge
just like people who saved their

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02:12:30,510 --> 02:12:32,850
change in a giant bottle.

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02:12:33,840 --> 02:12:36,750
Adam Curry: Maybe that's what
habits her husband's stripper

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02:12:37,050 --> 02:12:38,190
cache, you know that he

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02:12:38,190 --> 02:12:41,100
John C Dvorak: was they'd keep
it while he was gonna do one of

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02:12:41,100 --> 02:12:47,490
those guns he was gonna use. All
right. So do you want to

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02:12:47,490 --> 02:12:48,270
continue reading?

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02:12:48,480 --> 02:12:51,270
Adam Curry: Okay. One of our
favorite ways to save money is

2265
02:12:51,270 --> 02:12:54,270
to squirrel away one and $5
bills at the end of each day

2266
02:12:54,270 --> 02:12:57,750
into a giant mason jar. This is
not a bad idea. Every six weeks

2267
02:12:57,750 --> 02:13:01,290
or so I pull out the cash sort
and stash you'd be surprised how

2268
02:13:01,290 --> 02:13:04,170
quickly it adds up. And most of
the time you don't even miss the

2269
02:13:04,170 --> 02:13:10,830
money rather than adding this
latest. Something to our little

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02:13:10,830 --> 02:13:15,210
nest egg. I have decided to send
it to you guys instead. I could

2271
02:13:15,210 --> 02:13:17,910
have deposited the money and
donate via PayPal. But where's

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02:13:17,910 --> 02:13:20,820
the fun in that no jingles just
a jobs coming from my husband.

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02:13:21,000 --> 02:13:24,510
And if John could sing could say
I've got hairy legs. That will

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02:13:24,510 --> 02:13:27,840
be great. Thank you for your
courage Kelly Allison Concord,

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02:13:27,870 --> 02:13:29,040
North Carolina.

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02:13:29,610 --> 02:13:36,480
Unknown: I got hairy legs, jobs,
jobs, jobs and jobs. Jobs

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02:13:42,630 --> 02:13:45,510
John C Dvorak: All right, onward
with sure ever have the what our

2278
02:13:45,510 --> 02:13:50,310
buddy comes in with 234561 of
our favorite donations from

2279
02:13:50,310 --> 02:13:53,100
Lynwood, Michigan and has
probably the best note of the

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02:13:53,100 --> 02:13:53,400
day.

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02:13:53,429 --> 02:13:54,299
Adam Curry: I think so too.

2282
02:13:54,660 --> 02:13:56,760
John C Dvorak: And he says Hi,

2283
02:13:57,540 --> 02:14:03,090
Adam Curry: and hi back to you.
Amy Dawn Greensboro, Georgia to

2284
02:14:03,090 --> 02:14:06,270
3395 in the morning, thanks for
making the propaganda news

2285
02:14:06,270 --> 02:14:09,810
digestible with a hilarious
twist. DMCC hit me in the mouth

2286
02:14:09,810 --> 02:14:12,840
in early 2020. This show has
saved my sanity because they

2287
02:14:12,840 --> 02:14:15,630
felt lonely in my thinking
during the scan Demick before

2288
02:14:15,630 --> 02:14:19,560
becoming a faithful listener.
Got a lot of notes like this

2289
02:14:19,800 --> 02:14:21,750
greatly appreciate your
deconstruction of the Media

2290
02:14:21,750 --> 02:14:26,040
Spokes holes and smear their
bull crap all over television. I

2291
02:14:26,040 --> 02:14:29,160
refuse to be programmed. I was a
total douchebag for the first

2292
02:14:29,160 --> 02:14:32,370
two years so I felt the call to
make up for it when it hit me

2293
02:14:32,370 --> 02:14:36,180
how much value I received from
this show. I mean at 2k Plus

2294
02:14:36,270 --> 02:14:40,320
since October last year, so I
might be a double dame. Well, a

2295
02:14:40,320 --> 02:14:45,810
double Dame is a bear Netis No,
is that what is what is to

2296
02:14:46,140 --> 02:14:49,380
Baronet test I'm pretty sure
that a thing anyway hopefully

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02:14:49,380 --> 02:14:50,520
I'm officially de douche

2298
02:14:52,980 --> 02:14:54,150
Unknown: de deuced

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02:14:55,590 --> 02:14:57,660
Adam Curry: and I've made good
for my many months and mooching

2300
02:14:57,660 --> 02:15:00,960
off other producers it's makes
you feel good. Doesn't it I wish

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02:15:00,960 --> 02:15:07,110
now to be referred to as Daim.
AMS AMS WM AMS hope that's right

2302
02:15:07,110 --> 02:15:10,860
Dame AMS of Lake County country
and will probably take my seat

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02:15:10,860 --> 02:15:15,240
at the roundtable protein chic
shakes and Spanish octopus for

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02:15:15,240 --> 02:15:20,220
all okay she and then she says I
need to lay off the martinis

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02:15:20,850 --> 02:15:25,170
jingles obviously drunk one on a
rig and present karma for all no

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02:15:25,170 --> 02:15:28,890
again the slave lovers late Dame
100 frickin

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02:15:28,890 --> 02:15:33,180
Unknown: percent you've got
karma

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02:15:35,580 --> 02:15:38,970
John C Dvorak: to Ramji caner
buddy and Brookfield Wisconsin I

2309
02:15:38,970 --> 02:15:42,450
could do 3456 He's the one I
used to distribute see no

2310
02:15:42,450 --> 02:15:45,030
Adam Curry: agenda CDs remember
those? I still have them. I

2311
02:15:45,030 --> 02:15:46,620
still find them all over the
place.

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02:15:48,270 --> 02:15:53,460
John C Dvorak: They're like AOL
discs. Yeah. So Ramsey Kane here

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for a gun direct.com firearms
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or find us online at E gun
direct.com Best Price.

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Adam Curry: Sir leaks furious
St. Petersburg, Florida to 2715

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02:16:17,250 --> 02:16:20,280
number stations for sure today.
In The Morning John and Adam

2318
02:16:20,280 --> 02:16:23,040
this donation brings me to
$2,000 I don't know what that

2319
02:16:23,040 --> 02:16:26,580
means at the roundtable Baronet
but it doesn't matter I request

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02:16:26,580 --> 02:16:29,100
some F cancer from my good
friend's wife Paige thanks for

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02:16:29,100 --> 02:16:31,050
your courage surly furious

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Unknown: you've got karma

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02:16:39,600 --> 02:16:42,450
John C Dvorak: the random check
came in from James Lee from

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02:16:42,480 --> 02:16:48,840
Oregon Owensboro Kentucky two
two 2.33 and give him a double

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up karma

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Unknown: you've got karma

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02:16:57,570 --> 02:17:01,920
Adam Curry: sir Scott West
Columbia South Carolina. Two Oh

2328
02:17:01,920 --> 02:17:04,590
2.0220202 Attention South
Carolina. We have a meetup

2329
02:17:04,590 --> 02:17:07,350
scheduled for Sunday in
Charleston see no agenda

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02:17:07,350 --> 02:17:11,640
meetups.com For more info I also
also know we have listeners

2331
02:17:11,640 --> 02:17:13,770
towards the middle of the state
so if you're one of those and

2332
02:17:13,770 --> 02:17:16,380
would like to have a meet up
closer to home get in touch with

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02:17:16,380 --> 02:17:21,600
me on Mastodon at max burn at no
agenda social.com mx b You are

2334
02:17:21,600 --> 02:17:26,070
insincerely sir Scott. And he
also interestingly enough

2335
02:17:26,250 --> 02:17:30,240
request Trump's 100% 100 frickin

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02:17:30,240 --> 02:17:30,870
Unknown: percent

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02:17:30,900 --> 02:17:33,840
Adam Curry: you got it that's
that's a good way to advertise

2338
02:17:33,840 --> 02:17:35,310
your your Meetup by the way.

2339
02:17:35,639 --> 02:17:39,569
John C Dvorak: Very smart count
is Kim and Hubbard Oregon 200 or

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02:17:39,569 --> 02:17:43,649
69 says is switcheroo Happy
Birthday Zoo. Best stepmom in

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02:17:43,649 --> 02:17:47,609
the universe can she please get
a biscuit for her birthday? They

2342
02:17:47,609 --> 02:17:51,449
always give me a biscuit on my
birthday. And some are two d two

2343
02:17:51,449 --> 02:17:57,119
karma all credit goes to her
night. Dame hood counos Kim keep

2344
02:17:57,119 --> 02:17:59,639
her oh she's the keeper the neti
fluffers

2345
02:17:59,669 --> 02:18:02,849
Adam Curry: right but do I just
say happy birthday to we'll just

2346
02:18:02,849 --> 02:18:05,669
be the best step is the
switcheroo on the house. Best

2347
02:18:05,669 --> 02:18:08,939
stepmom in the universe. Is that
what I put in there? As the

2348
02:18:08,939 --> 02:18:13,439
credit Yes. Yeah, I mean she
didn't give a name so that's a

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02:18:13,439 --> 02:18:15,689
week that's what we'll do. We
just want to make sure we would

2350
02:18:15,689 --> 02:18:19,109
do it right there and she won
RTD to karma we got there for

2351
02:18:19,109 --> 02:18:19,199
you.

2352
02:18:21,090 --> 02:18:25,020
Unknown: You've got karma

2353
02:18:28,740 --> 02:18:34,770
Adam Curry: Okay, we have sir
Matt Johnstown, Pennsylvania

2354
02:18:34,770 --> 02:18:38,010
$200 Associate Executive
producer in the morning get my

2355
02:18:38,010 --> 02:18:40,560
nation has been a bit since my
last donation I hope it can be

2356
02:18:40,560 --> 02:18:43,950
forgiven. I was slightly dying
know what kind of excuses that

2357
02:18:44,610 --> 02:18:48,600
had a minor bout. Yikes. Come
on, man. Come on. You have a

2358
02:18:48,600 --> 02:18:52,290
John C Dvorak: minor bout of
severe liver failure.

2359
02:18:52,320 --> 02:18:53,910
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, that's
what he had. They aren't.

2360
02:18:54,540 --> 02:18:58,380
John C Dvorak: And they're not
100% sure why that's great.

2361
02:18:58,410 --> 02:19:01,290
Adam Curry: But lucky enough had
a successful transplant and I'm

2362
02:19:01,290 --> 02:19:04,590
getting better. Congratulations.
The no agenda show was often

2363
02:19:04,590 --> 02:19:07,290
playing in my hospital rooms and
is our constant roadtrip

2364
02:19:07,290 --> 02:19:11,010
companion when traveling for
checkups? Yes, I want to say in

2365
02:19:11,010 --> 02:19:13,350
the morning to Neil and his
family and Seamus they're

2366
02:19:13,350 --> 02:19:16,830
traveling back from their
checkup. To complicate things my

2367
02:19:16,830 --> 02:19:20,250
keeper and my new niece's niece
was born four days before my

2368
02:19:20,250 --> 02:19:23,520
surgery two months premature,
but she's doing great and

2369
02:19:23,520 --> 02:19:27,690
finally home with her family.
Few requests double health karma

2370
02:19:27,690 --> 02:19:30,330
for myself and my baby Mia to
keep us both going strong,

2371
02:19:30,570 --> 02:19:33,960
double birthday karma for oldest
neath montanes Molly from Uncle

2372
02:19:33,960 --> 02:19:37,770
Matt and on Sarah for July 29
and myself on the 30th finally

2373
02:19:37,770 --> 02:19:40,170
dealer's choice for an
appropriate jingle for my keeper

2374
02:19:40,170 --> 02:19:43,530
Sarah. She's literally helped me
keep me alive throughout this

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02:19:43,530 --> 02:19:47,250
time, so make it a great one. No
pressure though. To wrap it up.

2376
02:19:47,250 --> 02:19:49,890
I encourage everyone to help
each other out from just

2377
02:19:49,890 --> 02:19:52,710
donating blood to considering
donating part of your liver to

2378
02:19:52,710 --> 02:19:56,220
someone who needs it fun science
fact, your liver will actually

2379
02:19:56,220 --> 02:19:59,880
grow back if you donate part of
it. Well, that's a fun fact.

2380
02:20:01,050 --> 02:20:02,610
John C Dvorak: Yeah, of course
it was amazing.

2381
02:20:02,970 --> 02:20:07,260
Adam Curry: Yeah, the livers
good do tasty too. Thanks Adam

2382
02:20:07,260 --> 02:20:10,560
and John for going on this
journey with his fava beans with

2383
02:20:10,560 --> 02:20:15,240
fava beans sir Matt defender of
inappropriately time sarcasm and

2384
02:20:15,300 --> 02:20:18,210
well donating his love and I
have a double up karma for you

2385
02:20:18,240 --> 02:20:23,250
why because donating is you've
got

2386
02:20:27,510 --> 02:20:30,270
John C Dvorak: a we go is Linda
lapad kin in Lakewood, Colorado

2387
02:20:30,270 --> 02:20:33,930
200 bucks and she wants to wish
jobs karma for all for a

2388
02:20:33,930 --> 02:20:38,010
competitive edge Go to Image
makers inc.com For all your

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executive resume and job search
needs. That's image makers Inc.

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02:20:43,650 --> 02:20:47,730
With a k.com look for Linda
lapad gherkin under the show's

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02:20:47,730 --> 02:20:51,660
producer list and run a search
jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs.

2392
02:20:53,550 --> 02:20:55,410
Unknown: Jobs, karma

2393
02:20:55,470 --> 02:20:58,230
Adam Curry: and our final
Associate Executive Producer,

2394
02:20:58,230 --> 02:21:03,750
but where we actually read a
note comes from surfer and

2395
02:21:03,750 --> 02:21:06,930
surfer had a very interesting
little note he says in the

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02:21:06,930 --> 02:21:10,350
morning, John and Adam, please
credit the Associate Executive

2397
02:21:10,350 --> 02:21:15,360
Producer ship to Mr. Dana
Brunetti, governor of El Dorado.

2398
02:21:15,810 --> 02:21:19,080
These are big Hollywood big week
up there. These switcheroo

2399
02:21:19,080 --> 02:21:23,100
donations will continue until
John gets a bit part.

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John C Dvorak: This is
interesting for the subtext of

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02:21:29,040 --> 02:21:34,560
the fact that Brunetti hates the
idea of being an Associate

2402
02:21:34,560 --> 02:21:38,970
Executive Producer I think
that's that's why an extreme I

2403
02:21:38,970 --> 02:21:43,440
think that's why you don't even
know how much he hates it unless

2404
02:21:43,440 --> 02:21:44,370
you know the guy.

2405
02:21:45,420 --> 02:21:48,330
Adam Curry: I think I have a
feeling this is probably the

2406
02:21:48,330 --> 02:21:51,570
best way to get you a bit part
ever. I have a feeling I he's

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02:21:51,570 --> 02:21:51,780
not

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John C Dvorak: producing
anything. He said, you know,

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02:21:53,970 --> 02:21:59,100
made his two. Yeah, he is. You
know, this is actually a pretty

2410
02:21:59,100 --> 02:22:02,130
good method. Yeah, I have to
agree. This is not a bad idea.

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Well done. Let's see how long it
goes before Brunetti chimes in

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surfer

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Adam Curry: black Baron of the i
Four corridor lovers Liddy says

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no jingles no karma thank you
all very much for supporting the

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02:22:13,170 --> 02:22:15,930
no agenda show you all came
executives and Associate

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Executive producers came out in
in droves today we appreciate

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02:22:20,070 --> 02:22:22,350
that. We have more people to
thank in our second segment the

2418
02:22:22,350 --> 02:22:24,750
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2419
02:22:24,750 --> 02:22:28,080
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02:22:40,800 --> 02:22:41,910
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Unknown: is this. We go out for
yet people in the mouth

2425
02:22:58,440 --> 02:23:00,750
Adam Curry: is the climate
monster knocking? Is that what's

2426
02:23:00,750 --> 02:23:01,230
going on?

2427
02:23:03,270 --> 02:23:05,910
John C Dvorak: That's my guess.
I have some tick tock clips.

2428
02:23:05,940 --> 02:23:06,330
Wait,

2429
02:23:06,510 --> 02:23:07,680
Adam Curry: don't we do ISOs

2430
02:23:09,300 --> 02:23:10,860
John C Dvorak: we do a second
second segment.

2431
02:23:11,550 --> 02:23:14,340
Adam Curry: I'm confused. Yes.
You got ticked what you? What am

2432
02:23:14,340 --> 02:23:21,240
I talking about? Let's go
straight to the good stuff. tock

2433
02:23:21,240 --> 02:23:21,990
tick tock.

2434
02:23:25,500 --> 02:23:30,450
John C Dvorak: Yeah. All right.
Here's I got four. I think three

2435
02:23:30,450 --> 02:23:31,440
of these are really good.

2436
02:23:32,700 --> 02:23:35,280
Adam Curry: Is the sound okay,
because sometimes the sound is

2437
02:23:35,280 --> 02:23:36,120
so bad. No, I

2438
02:23:36,210 --> 02:23:38,370
John C Dvorak: do as well with a
bad sign. And I ran it through

2439
02:23:38,370 --> 02:23:41,940
Adobe and it cleaned up like a
champ. Okay, in fact, I'll play

2440
02:23:41,940 --> 02:23:44,040
that one right off the bat,
because we talked about summer

2441
02:23:44,040 --> 02:23:50,460
camp earlier. I didn't know
this. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Yeah,

2442
02:23:50,460 --> 02:23:52,380
there's queer summer camps.

2443
02:23:52,980 --> 02:23:55,290
Unknown: So big is not the
biggest question that we've been

2444
02:23:55,290 --> 02:23:57,930
getting is how do you become a
counselor at a queer summer

2445
02:23:57,930 --> 02:24:00,450
camp? An easy answer is there's
an application that goes online

2446
02:24:00,450 --> 02:24:03,480
in like April and then they
interview you and then you get

2447
02:24:03,480 --> 02:24:06,180
hired. What I think is important
to note is that I swear it was

2448
02:24:06,180 --> 02:24:08,790
harder to get hired here than it
was to get into grad school. Not

2449
02:24:08,790 --> 02:24:11,760
only do we have to like build
and design unique and original

2450
02:24:11,760 --> 02:24:15,180
workshop content, I'm doing
three on blackout poetry, flash

2451
02:24:15,180 --> 02:24:18,690
fiction and trans masculinity.
Campers get here this afternoon.

2452
02:24:18,690 --> 02:24:21,510
But I've been here for three
days, we've had anti racism and

2453
02:24:21,510 --> 02:24:24,360
anti bias training and mental
health screenings, neuro

2454
02:24:24,360 --> 02:24:26,850
diversity training way more than
I've ever done for public

2455
02:24:26,850 --> 02:24:29,220
education. Because we take the
health, safety and growth of

2456
02:24:29,220 --> 02:24:32,250
these kids very seriously. I am
surrounded by some of the most

2457
02:24:32,250 --> 02:24:34,860
capable people I've ever met.
We're here to support future

2458
02:24:34,860 --> 02:24:37,350
queer leaders and they need
guidance that knows what they're

2459
02:24:37,350 --> 02:24:39,510
doing. And will I be in drag for
a significant portion of the

2460
02:24:39,510 --> 02:24:40,830
week? Also? Yes.

2461
02:24:42,930 --> 02:24:46,500
Adam Curry: Wow. So do we know
the location of said queer camp?

2462
02:24:46,500 --> 02:24:49,830
That sounds like a interesting
little place to visit.

2463
02:24:52,260 --> 02:24:55,140
John C Dvorak: I don't know the
location, but I'm sure deep

2464
02:24:55,140 --> 02:24:58,380
search will find it and there's
probably more than one. And I'm

2465
02:24:58,380 --> 02:25:00,480
guessing they're in New York.
work,

2466
02:25:01,260 --> 02:25:05,190
Adam Curry: I'd like to point
out that the Netherlands was one

2467
02:25:05,190 --> 02:25:09,480
of the first real with Berlin
but Amsterdam, certainly one of

2468
02:25:09,480 --> 02:25:14,340
the first cities that that
regularly did Pride Parade,

2469
02:25:14,970 --> 02:25:19,170
which was first it was pride
than it was gay pride. And this

2470
02:25:19,170 --> 02:25:26,910
year, they have changed it from
a parade to not just one week,

2471
02:25:26,910 --> 02:25:31,980
but to two weeks of pride. And
it's no longer called gay pride.

2472
02:25:32,670 --> 02:25:40,530
It's called queer and pride.
Listen to this capture. And this

2473
02:25:40,530 --> 02:25:47,730
is the slogan trans lives
lesbian lives, gay lives,

2474
02:25:47,730 --> 02:25:56,550
refugee lives, Muslim lives,
disabled lives all matter. I'd

2475
02:25:56,550 --> 02:26:00,150
say that this has gone a little
bit beyond they've they've shot

2476
02:26:00,150 --> 02:26:01,530
past the mark on this,

2477
02:26:01,560 --> 02:26:03,870
John C Dvorak: you just keep
when you're shooting past a mark

2478
02:26:03,870 --> 02:26:08,820
and nobody cares. You just keep
doing it. Now here is a queer

2479
02:26:09,750 --> 02:26:15,450
character. Telling sis this is
if you starts off if you are

2480
02:26:15,450 --> 02:26:17,130
sis, that would be you and

2481
02:26:17,130 --> 02:26:21,150
Adam Curry: me. And yes, I
reject any categorization but

2482
02:26:21,150 --> 02:26:21,840
I'm okay. I

2483
02:26:21,840 --> 02:26:25,710
John C Dvorak: agree with that.
But but it's directed at what

2484
02:26:26,610 --> 02:26:32,790
this person perceives as
anything but him or her. And

2485
02:26:32,790 --> 02:26:35,940
what you should be doing for
this person.

2486
02:26:36,090 --> 02:26:38,910
Unknown: If you're Sis, I want
you to message the trans person

2487
02:26:38,910 --> 02:26:43,110
in your life and ask them what
is one thing that you can do to

2488
02:26:43,110 --> 02:26:46,470
lighten their load this week,
whether that be grocery

2489
02:26:46,470 --> 02:26:50,730
shopping, or folding laundry,
just ask the trans people in

2490
02:26:50,730 --> 02:26:53,850
your life if there's a task or
something that you can offer

2491
02:26:53,850 --> 02:26:57,270
them to help with the burden
that we're carrying, because

2492
02:26:57,270 --> 02:27:00,120
we're having to deal with all of
this stuff right now? Well,

2493
02:27:00,120 --> 02:27:03,480
having to deal with all of the
life stuff that we regularly

2494
02:27:03,480 --> 02:27:07,590
deal with, and the regular life
stuff that we deal with is life

2495
02:27:07,590 --> 02:27:11,100
stuff. And then there's
transphobia and living as a

2496
02:27:11,100 --> 02:27:13,710
trans person in the world. And
then there's what's going on

2497
02:27:13,710 --> 02:27:17,130
right now, which is all of that
combined, and then send that

2498
02:27:17,130 --> 02:27:19,890
trans person $5 So they can get
themselves a treat.

2499
02:27:20,460 --> 02:27:27,060
Adam Curry: A treat. Treat a
treat. Well this started with

2500
02:27:27,060 --> 02:27:31,440
send a black person money.
That's what this started with

2501
02:27:31,560 --> 02:27:34,020
John C Dvorak: was a good bit if
you want to you know solicit

2502
02:27:35,130 --> 02:27:39,240
random money from people that
don't know who you are. Okay, so

2503
02:27:39,240 --> 02:27:40,770
that was that guy. Now I have

2504
02:27:40,800 --> 02:27:42,690
Adam Curry: now you're playing
these clips for what reason just

2505
02:27:42,690 --> 02:27:44,520
to set me up or or

2506
02:27:45,359 --> 02:27:48,479
John C Dvorak: set up okay. Now
it's just to get these out of my

2507
02:27:48,479 --> 02:27:52,979
I'm getting sick of these clips.
That's why now here's a here's a

2508
02:27:52,979 --> 02:27:57,389
person describing and then
somebody suffering from this one

2509
02:27:57,389 --> 02:28:02,339
is an absolute killer. When you
dis for dysphoria,

2510
02:28:02,760 --> 02:28:05,040
Unknown: Hi, my name is Kang and
I'm a non human alternate the ID

2511
02:28:05,040 --> 02:28:07,680
system and I'm making a Discord
server for people who experience

2512
02:28:07,680 --> 02:28:10,410
wing dysphoria is of course open
to systems with non human head

2513
02:28:10,410 --> 02:28:13,590
mates. And it is also open to I
think they're called wincon.

2514
02:28:13,830 --> 02:28:16,560
literally anybody who
experiences wing dysphoria, but

2515
02:28:16,560 --> 02:28:20,340
PCU there are folks who are
experiencing dysphoria and who

2516
02:28:20,340 --> 02:28:24,420
get the Phantom wings. I know we
are all familiar with the

2517
02:28:24,690 --> 02:28:28,080
feeling of needing to stretch
our wings and not being able to,

2518
02:28:28,350 --> 02:28:32,820
but is it as common of an
experience to feel like you have

2519
02:28:32,820 --> 02:28:35,040
water on your wings like feel
like your wings got wet, and you

2520
02:28:35,040 --> 02:28:39,000
need to like flush them up and
shake the water out. And you

2521
02:28:39,000 --> 02:28:40,380
can't and it's frustrating.

2522
02:28:40,800 --> 02:28:42,900
Adam Curry: Wow, man, I'm
actually more on board with a

2523
02:28:42,900 --> 02:28:47,010
wing dysphoria than than
anything else. I mean, yeah, I

2524
02:28:47,010 --> 02:28:50,160
can I can feel you with your
wings. Yeah, that doesn't seem

2525
02:28:50,160 --> 02:28:50,580
weird.

2526
02:28:54,750 --> 02:29:03,000
John C Dvorak: Doesn't seem
weird. Brother. Okay, I got Why

2527
02:29:03,000 --> 02:29:07,470
do one more. Okay. And this has
got nothing to do with queers or

2528
02:29:07,470 --> 02:29:12,780
winged dysphoria or if you're
sis. This is just some self

2529
02:29:12,810 --> 02:29:18,360
absorbed woman who is a dick.
bitching about the fact that

2530
02:29:18,360 --> 02:29:21,570
people shush her, I guess when
she's at the movie theater

2531
02:29:21,570 --> 02:29:24,840
because she likes to yak during
the movie, so no one else can

2532
02:29:24,840 --> 02:29:26,640
hear the damn movie.

2533
02:29:27,660 --> 02:29:29,910
Unknown: We need to talk about
this. I'm about to go to a movie

2534
02:29:29,910 --> 02:29:32,610
and it made me think like,
people say, Oh, if you want to

2535
02:29:32,610 --> 02:29:34,380
talk during a movie, you
shouldn't go to the cinema.

2536
02:29:35,520 --> 02:29:38,850
Lies. If you don't want to hear
people talking during a movie,

2537
02:29:38,880 --> 02:29:42,330
you shouldn't go to the cinema
because like, isn't the whole

2538
02:29:42,330 --> 02:29:46,050
thing about watching something
with other people in the same

2539
02:29:46,050 --> 02:29:50,190
room to like, experience it
together and laugh and scream

2540
02:29:50,190 --> 02:29:53,010
and have full on analysis is
about the characters like walk

2541
02:29:53,010 --> 02:29:56,610
you're watching it. If you want
to sit in silence like a fucking

2542
02:29:56,610 --> 02:30:02,100
stone. Just go home and Yeah,
sorry, I'm that person. I am

2543
02:30:02,100 --> 02:30:04,740
that person. Take me to fucking
jail. I'm gonna be disrespectful

2544
02:30:04,770 --> 02:30:09,240
every time because I will. I
will say things I will say

2545
02:30:09,240 --> 02:30:11,790
things during the movie I will.
I will say a lot of things

2546
02:30:11,790 --> 02:30:15,570
during the movie yum, yum, yum.
That's me. And that's just what

2547
02:30:15,570 --> 02:30:18,330
it should be like, I feel like
we should change the culture

2548
02:30:18,330 --> 02:30:22,170
around going and see a movie. It
should always be Chitty chatty

2549
02:30:22,230 --> 02:30:24,960
in the cinema. That's just my
opinion.

2550
02:30:26,160 --> 02:30:28,500
Adam Curry: Man, why do you
torture yourself watching this

2551
02:30:28,500 --> 02:30:31,320
stuff? I really don't. I don't
understand it. I mean, you get

2552
02:30:31,320 --> 02:30:34,260
all pissed off about it. And
then you torture us with it.

2553
02:30:34,380 --> 02:30:36,720
This is not fun. Don't do this.
This,

2554
02:30:36,750 --> 02:30:39,810
John C Dvorak: this is good
material. It's not good. These

2555
02:30:39,810 --> 02:30:43,020
are people. These are real
people out there in the public

2556
02:30:43,020 --> 02:30:45,390
roaming around you walking right
by one right now, if you're

2557
02:30:45,390 --> 02:30:48,840
listening to this thing on on
headphones. I'm telling you,

2558
02:30:48,870 --> 02:30:50,910
it's depressing.

2559
02:30:51,450 --> 02:30:54,840
Unknown: And now it's time for
our trans mouse agenda. destruct

2560
02:30:54,840 --> 02:30:55,530
initiated.

2561
02:30:56,550 --> 02:30:57,360
Alright, how about that?

2562
02:30:58,800 --> 02:31:01,500
Adam Curry: You'd like that a
bad? Wait, good. I have

2563
02:31:01,530 --> 02:31:03,810
different versions. So that's
the woman tell me if you'd like

2564
02:31:03,810 --> 02:31:04,170
this one.

2565
02:31:04,560 --> 02:31:07,650
Unknown: Trans Maoist agenda
initiated.

2566
02:31:09,000 --> 02:31:10,890
Adam Curry: So we have that and
then we have a more traditional

2567
02:31:10,890 --> 02:31:11,280
kind.

2568
02:31:11,640 --> 02:31:15,210
Unknown: Now it's time for our
friends and allies to self

2569
02:31:15,210 --> 02:31:16,290
destruct initiated.

2570
02:31:16,980 --> 02:31:20,220
Adam Curry: And then this has to
be my favorite. Now it's time

2571
02:31:20,220 --> 02:31:20,640
for our

2572
02:31:20,640 --> 02:31:21,570
Unknown: trump smiles

2573
02:31:21,600 --> 02:31:23,910
agenda. District initiated?

2574
02:31:24,540 --> 02:31:25,650
Adam Curry: Which one do you
like the best?

2575
02:31:28,080 --> 02:31:29,130
John C Dvorak: Number three,

2576
02:31:30,030 --> 02:31:35,670
Adam Curry: the DJ voice? Yeah.
Mo, sorry, I don't agree.

2577
02:31:36,330 --> 02:31:37,200
Anyway, this time,

2578
02:31:37,470 --> 02:31:39,210
John C Dvorak: what do you want?
Why are you even asking me?

2579
02:31:40,740 --> 02:31:45,480
Adam Curry: Because I want you
to feel loved. So, you know, I

2580
02:31:45,480 --> 02:31:48,120
have to go see this Barbie movie
now because I'm getting all

2581
02:31:48,120 --> 02:31:52,680
kinds of notes from people that
it's not part of the trans mouse

2582
02:31:52,680 --> 02:31:57,120
agenda. In fact, that seems to
be anti that so I I'm very

2583
02:31:57,120 --> 02:31:59,760
confused by the notes. You were
sending me it seems to be

2584
02:31:59,760 --> 02:32:04,560
polarizing people can't quite
get a handle on what it isn't.

2585
02:32:04,560 --> 02:32:06,630
There's no agreement, even
amongst our producers, which I

2586
02:32:06,630 --> 02:32:07,530
find is interesting.

2587
02:32:07,650 --> 02:32:11,790
John C Dvorak: Well, then you're
gonna have to be the arbiter of

2588
02:32:11,790 --> 02:32:12,540
that movie.

2589
02:32:12,870 --> 02:32:16,290
Adam Curry: Yes, I will. Yes.
Correct. And I'm very sad to

2590
02:32:16,290 --> 02:32:18,540
hear this because that means I
have to go see this movie. I

2591
02:32:18,540 --> 02:32:21,960
will not go see Oppenheimer
though. I'm not gonna see that's

2592
02:32:21,960 --> 02:32:24,900
too long. I don't have time for
that too long. He has time for

2593
02:32:24,900 --> 02:32:29,220
it. All right. Now I do have an
trans mouse update. Because all

2594
02:32:29,220 --> 02:32:32,610
of this stuff you're hearing and
John's tick tock clips, stems

2595
02:32:32,610 --> 02:32:40,200
from a not just national but an
international debate about Trent

2596
02:32:40,200 --> 02:32:44,820
medically transitioning
children, non adults, and in the

2597
02:32:44,820 --> 02:32:48,270
United States. Many states have
made laws and say no, you can't

2598
02:32:48,270 --> 02:32:51,390
do that. And some have been
overnight trans. So yes, it's

2599
02:32:51,420 --> 02:32:57,000
it's genocide. Oh, of course.
And CBS Face the Nation had a

2600
02:32:57,000 --> 02:33:02,340
rare moment of having an anti
trans and a pro trans person on

2601
02:33:03,330 --> 02:33:05,850
if you want to categorize it
that way. But again, it's it's

2602
02:33:05,850 --> 02:33:10,950
about administering drugs and
surgical procedure to young

2603
02:33:10,950 --> 02:33:14,730
people. And the question is, is
the science settled on this? I

2604
02:33:14,730 --> 02:33:17,550
think that's probably the best
thing we can discuss at this

2605
02:33:17,550 --> 02:33:21,180
point. And how bad is it? How
many people need this? Why is

2606
02:33:21,180 --> 02:33:25,560
this happening? What's going on?
What is going on? And this was

2607
02:33:25,560 --> 02:33:31,080
fascinating they had on Governor
Spencer Cox, he is from

2608
02:33:31,290 --> 02:33:37,920
goodness, where's he from? I
want to say, I can't remember

2609
02:33:37,920 --> 02:33:42,570
what state it comes up in the
interview. And he is he wants to

2610
02:33:42,600 --> 02:33:46,890
hit status, restricting gender
affirming care, which is how

2611
02:33:46,890 --> 02:33:50,580
they categorize it or IE,
administering testosterone or

2612
02:33:50,580 --> 02:33:53,400
estrogen puberty blockers to
either young boys or young men,

2613
02:33:53,400 --> 02:33:56,820
because a therapist has told
them that they are probably the

2614
02:33:56,820 --> 02:34:00,300
opposite gender, and they're
confused. And here's his take on

2615
02:34:00,300 --> 02:34:03,180
Unknown: it. I want to ask you,
again, on the topic related to

2616
02:34:03,180 --> 02:34:07,260
kids, there are 18 different
states that have now enacted

2617
02:34:07,260 --> 02:34:11,820
laws that restrict in some way
access to gender transition CARE

2618
02:34:11,820 --> 02:34:12,450
for Kids

2619
02:34:12,480 --> 02:34:15,510
Adam Curry: just love the gender
transition care for kids. I

2620
02:34:15,510 --> 02:34:16,830
mean, it's almost a bumper
sticker.

2621
02:34:17,160 --> 02:34:20,940
Unknown: In Utah, you have said
that you are just pausing access

2622
02:34:20,940 --> 02:34:24,900
to that kind of care, you're not
banning it. Do you have an end

2623
02:34:24,900 --> 02:34:29,220
date to that pause? What
specifically is the kind of data

2624
02:34:29,220 --> 02:34:32,880
and research you need to see to
say, you will allow for

2625
02:34:33,000 --> 02:34:38,490
yes, we don't have an end date.
But we we do need more data and

2626
02:34:38,490 --> 02:34:40,770
more information. And the
legislature has been clear on

2627
02:34:40,770 --> 02:34:43,200
that. Ultimately, the
legislature would have to run a

2628
02:34:43,200 --> 02:34:47,130
bill to unpause that depending
on what that you know what that

2629
02:34:47,130 --> 02:34:52,200
data comes back. I've been very,
very vocal about this. This is

2630
02:34:52,200 --> 02:34:56,280
such a charged topic, that it's
been it's been impossible, I

2631
02:34:56,280 --> 02:35:00,120
believe to get good information
here in the United States. Right

2632
02:35:00,120 --> 02:35:02,880
now, because half the country
doesn't want to touch it, and

2633
02:35:02,880 --> 02:35:05,700
the other half is convinced that
they already know the answer.

2634
02:35:05,940 --> 02:35:09,660
And so I've really tried to look
elsewhere at conversations that

2635
02:35:09,660 --> 02:35:11,910
are happening in other
countries, specifically in

2636
02:35:11,910 --> 02:35:15,960
Europe around around this where
it's not quite as charged,

2637
02:35:16,440 --> 02:35:21,750
looking at at Sweden and Finland
and France and the UK, other

2638
02:35:21,750 --> 02:35:24,900
countries where they don't have
the same culture war battles

2639
02:35:24,900 --> 02:35:27,870
that we're having here, where
it's, you know, it's either too

2640
02:35:27,870 --> 02:35:31,350
political or, you know, you
can't say anything about it, to,

2641
02:35:31,530 --> 02:35:34,890
to see what they're finding out.
And they're also pushing pause.

2642
02:35:34,920 --> 02:35:38,730
I mean, many of those countries
are saying, what we're,

2643
02:35:38,940 --> 02:35:43,290
this is specific part of it.
Treatment, puberty blockers,

2644
02:35:43,290 --> 02:35:44,010
surgery,

2645
02:35:44,040 --> 02:35:45,780
ballers all of the above.

2646
02:35:46,350 --> 02:35:50,490
Adam Curry: And I'm very happy
that that CBS had this this

2647
02:35:50,490 --> 02:35:53,670
governor on because that is
correct. That is the truth. The

2648
02:35:53,670 --> 02:35:56,940
truth is going to of course,
they put him first Don't worry,

2649
02:35:56,940 --> 02:36:00,750
the fun is coming. Now, let's
talk about and again, he speaks

2650
02:36:00,750 --> 02:36:05,460
truth about the organizations
that are driving this not the

2651
02:36:05,460 --> 02:36:07,830
pause. But driving the
transition,

2652
02:36:07,860 --> 02:36:10,530
Unknown: the American Medical
Association, the American

2653
02:36:10,530 --> 02:36:13,350
Psychiatric Association, the
American Academy of Pediatrics

2654
02:36:13,350 --> 02:36:17,310
have said, this kind of care,
that they've rejected the claims

2655
02:36:17,310 --> 02:36:18,420
that it is harmful.

2656
02:36:18,449 --> 02:36:24,029
Yeah. All very political groups.
And I don't I believe that they

2657
02:36:24,029 --> 02:36:26,489
are politicized. Those groups
are politicized

2658
02:36:26,520 --> 02:36:28,770
and don't get Academy PD, I
absolutely do.

2659
02:36:28,800 --> 02:36:33,180
Yes, yes. On this issue. It it's
impossible to get unbiased

2660
02:36:33,180 --> 02:36:35,340
information out of the United
States right now on this issue.

2661
02:36:35,580 --> 02:36:38,760
I just don't believe it. So. So
that's why I've been looking

2662
02:36:38,790 --> 02:36:41,340
elsewhere and looking at
scientists elsewhere who have

2663
02:36:41,340 --> 02:36:45,510
said, Look, yet we have some old
data. Dutch study, many, many

2664
02:36:45,510 --> 02:36:48,450
years ago, looks absolutely
nothing like what we're seeing

2665
02:36:48,450 --> 02:36:53,340
today. And and we have not
looked at the long term impacts

2666
02:36:53,370 --> 02:36:57,240
of these hormone blockers, we
have not looked at the long term

2667
02:36:57,270 --> 02:37:01,890
impacts of these surgeries. And
we don't have enough data to

2668
02:37:01,890 --> 02:37:04,620
support moving forward right
now. So that's what we're asking

2669
02:37:04,620 --> 02:37:08,460
for. So we're working the
University of Utah and other

2670
02:37:08,460 --> 02:37:11,010
organizations out there that
will be compiling research

2671
02:37:11,010 --> 02:37:13,680
that's being done all across the
world, looking at the very best

2672
02:37:13,680 --> 02:37:16,560
and and latest data will present
that to the legislature and then

2673
02:37:16,560 --> 02:37:17,820
they'll make the decision going
forward.

2674
02:37:17,970 --> 02:37:20,610
Adam Curry: I'm glad that
someone is doing this. And the

2675
02:37:20,610 --> 02:37:25,050
speaking truth. There are no
long term studies. It's all from

2676
02:37:25,110 --> 02:37:29,490
research based on 2019. And it's
just ghoulish what is being done

2677
02:37:29,730 --> 02:37:33,780
without any long trip. Forget
the reason why. And these

2678
02:37:33,780 --> 02:37:36,780
politicized organizations, just
because you have American

2679
02:37:36,780 --> 02:37:40,860
pediatrics doesn't mean that
you're that you're that you're

2680
02:37:40,860 --> 02:37:44,550
speaking truth or basing it on
science, but it's happening. So

2681
02:37:44,550 --> 02:37:44,790
just

2682
02:37:44,790 --> 02:37:47,400
Unknown: on the numbers of 73
million children in the US there

2683
02:37:47,400 --> 02:37:52,440
were just 56 genital surgeries
related to dysphoria between

2684
02:37:52,440 --> 02:37:55,410
2019 and 2021. According to the
study by Comodo, health

2685
02:37:55,500 --> 02:37:56,580
embroiders you have

2686
02:37:56,580 --> 02:38:01,770
the numbers on, on on hormone
therapy, and, and and in those

2687
02:38:01,830 --> 02:38:06,090
ad blockers, whatever the number
is, they're exploding. We went

2688
02:38:06,090 --> 02:38:11,730
from, like 1010 years ago to
several 100 This past year. I

2689
02:38:11,730 --> 02:38:14,370
mean, those numbers and again,
this is in Utah

2690
02:38:14,370 --> 02:38:17,190
alone. Yeah. Why do you think
it's happening in Utah? Like

2691
02:38:17,220 --> 02:38:19,680
that's it's happening
everywhere? And that's what

2692
02:38:19,680 --> 02:38:22,710
people are trying to figure out?
Absolutely. Yeah. You don't know

2693
02:38:22,710 --> 02:38:25,260
what strike? Well, that's that's
what the scientists in other

2694
02:38:25,260 --> 02:38:28,230
countries are actually trying to
figure out where in the United

2695
02:38:28,230 --> 02:38:30,390
States, we're putting our head
in the sand and saying, we're

2696
02:38:30,390 --> 02:38:32,250
not even going to talk about
this or look about this, you

2697
02:38:32,250 --> 02:38:34,500
can't even have a discussion
about it. In other countries,

2698
02:38:34,500 --> 02:38:37,560
they're saying something is
happening. Again, going back to

2699
02:38:37,560 --> 02:38:40,920
this Dutch study, there were a
few people, mostly males

2700
02:38:40,920 --> 02:38:43,800
transitioning, they didn't have
any other mental health issues

2701
02:38:43,830 --> 02:38:48,390
at the time. What we're seeing
now is hundreds 1000s, and

2702
02:38:48,390 --> 02:38:52,170
hundreds in my state 1000s all
across the country that are

2703
02:38:52,170 --> 02:38:55,440
making requests for this. And
they have their they're

2704
02:38:55,440 --> 02:38:58,950
presenting with several other
mental health issues as well. So

2705
02:38:58,950 --> 02:39:01,680
again, totally different than
the study that all of this is

2706
02:39:01,680 --> 02:39:06,510
based on. And and this is the
question, this is what we're

2707
02:39:06,510 --> 02:39:10,890
trying to figure out. Why are we
seeing this explosion in so many

2708
02:39:10,890 --> 02:39:15,630
countries and really kind of
developed countries? We're not

2709
02:39:15,630 --> 02:39:19,170
seeing this in in in undeveloped
countries? Why are we seeing

2710
02:39:19,170 --> 02:39:22,260
this tremendous increase? What
what is it that's driving it?

2711
02:39:22,500 --> 02:39:25,890
Is? I mean, is it gender
dysphoria? Is it something else?

2712
02:39:25,890 --> 02:39:30,960
Is it a mental health issue? Is
it is it is it some sort of, you

2713
02:39:30,960 --> 02:39:35,700
know, this social media trend
that is driving some not all is

2714
02:39:35,730 --> 02:39:39,390
what is it this order today,
this moment in time, where we

2715
02:39:39,390 --> 02:39:40,560
are seeing this explosion, what

2716
02:39:40,590 --> 02:39:42,930
the data is hard, I mean, the
numbers we saw the trend is

2717
02:39:42,930 --> 02:39:46,830
definitely up but they're still
pretty small in terms of

2718
02:39:46,830 --> 02:39:47,970
surgeries and mastectomy in

2719
02:39:48,930 --> 02:39:53,100
terms of surgeries, data, yeah,
the other data and you can look

2720
02:39:53,100 --> 02:39:57,750
anywhere. This is not unique.
Yes, there are a lot of

2721
02:39:57,750 --> 02:40:00,090
surgeries happening, but the
trend it's not just it's Have

2722
02:40:00,090 --> 02:40:03,300
exponentially it's it's it's a
hockey stick increase

2723
02:40:03,360 --> 02:40:08,340
it's still a small percentage
though but but I hear your point

2724
02:40:08,340 --> 02:40:09,060
I'm wanting Hold on a

2725
02:40:09,060 --> 02:40:12,780
John C Dvorak: second yeah I you
know there's a thing about

2726
02:40:13,890 --> 02:40:17,970
pension sales they run into this
a lot where you kind of mimic

2727
02:40:17,970 --> 02:40:21,660
the person is talking to you in
such a way that you develop a

2728
02:40:21,660 --> 02:40:25,200
rapport yeah mirroring
mirroring, mirroring this guy

2729
02:40:25,200 --> 02:40:29,670
such a stammer and stutter
starts to stutter she's doing

2730
02:40:29,670 --> 02:40:35,460
it. Yeah, he does have the
data's not a good representative

2731
02:40:35,460 --> 02:40:37,650
for this side of the argument I
think he's put there on purpose

2732
02:40:37,650 --> 02:40:38,550
because of that.

2733
02:40:39,210 --> 02:40:41,550
Adam Curry: Interesting point.
Okay,

2734
02:40:41,910 --> 02:40:44,520
John C Dvorak: well are better
speakers on this topic than him?

2735
02:40:44,580 --> 02:40:47,130
Adam Curry: Well, they brought
in exactly the right person to

2736
02:40:47,130 --> 02:40:51,330
speak on the other side of the
argument. Marci Bowers, we've

2737
02:40:51,330 --> 02:40:56,280
heard from Marci Bowers before,
Marcy is a gynecologist, surgeon

2738
02:40:56,280 --> 02:41:00,270
who specializes in gender
confirming surgeries, viewed as

2739
02:41:00,270 --> 02:41:03,600
an innovator in gender
confirmation and affirmation

2740
02:41:03,600 --> 02:41:07,470
surgery, and is also the first
transgender woman to perform

2741
02:41:07,470 --> 02:41:13,050
such surgeries. So she's not
only the president, she's

2742
02:41:13,080 --> 02:41:19,260
client, was that Hair Club for
Men? Yeah. And she's going to

2743
02:41:19,260 --> 02:41:23,070
refute all of this, with I
think, very flimsy arguments.

2744
02:41:23,100 --> 02:41:26,340
Unknown: We're joined now by Dr.
Marci Bowers, she is a surgeon

2745
02:41:26,340 --> 02:41:29,520
and one of the nation's leading
experts on gender affirming

2746
02:41:29,520 --> 02:41:32,790
health care, also the president
of the World Professional

2747
02:41:32,790 --> 02:41:35,550
Association for Transgender
Health, which sets global

2748
02:41:35,550 --> 02:41:38,880
standards for care for doctors
in the field. Brother, thank you

2749
02:41:38,880 --> 02:41:39,690
for being here.

2750
02:41:39,960 --> 02:41:43,080
Thank you, Margaret, for having
you. Back it up. I

2751
02:41:43,080 --> 02:41:44,670
John C Dvorak: want to get the
name of that organization.

2752
02:41:45,510 --> 02:41:48,300
Unknown: Thank healthcare, also
the president of the World

2753
02:41:48,300 --> 02:41:51,420
Professional Association for
Transgender Health, which sets

2754
02:41:51,420 --> 02:41:55,830
global standards for care for
doctors in the field. Do you get

2755
02:41:55,830 --> 02:42:00,330
it? Kind of? Thank you for being
here. Thank you, Margaret, for

2756
02:42:00,330 --> 02:42:03,990
having a we've you've heard our
guests talk about transgender

2757
02:42:03,990 --> 02:42:07,950
issues in the political sense.
We've now seen 21 Different

2758
02:42:07,950 --> 02:42:13,320
states pass laws restricting
access. And so I want to

2759
02:42:13,320 --> 02:42:16,290
understand a little bit more
about what that access actually

2760
02:42:16,290 --> 02:42:17,220
looks like.

2761
02:42:17,490 --> 02:42:23,310
John C Dvorak: Stop. The use of
the term restricting access? Oh,

2762
02:42:23,310 --> 02:42:27,000
yeah, it's, it's a loaded term.
It's not what she should be

2763
02:42:27,000 --> 02:42:32,250
saying. It's like restricting
access to guns.

2764
02:42:32,670 --> 02:42:35,700
Adam Curry: Yeah, exactly. It's
the same language, of course.

2765
02:42:36,420 --> 02:42:39,930
Interesting. Okay. But I mean,
she's the media of the media is

2766
02:42:39,930 --> 02:42:44,760
pushing this. Yeah, it's pushing
it on people who are jacked up

2767
02:42:44,760 --> 02:42:48,690
on SSRIs. It's obvious. By the
way, I should mention, there's a

2768
02:42:48,690 --> 02:42:52,350
very interesting article in
vogue this month, titled What

2769
02:42:52,350 --> 02:42:57,450
happened to the male orgasm?
Men, young men, men are so

2770
02:42:57,450 --> 02:43:00,840
jacked up on antidepressants,
they can't orgasm, as we just

2771
02:43:00,840 --> 02:43:04,650
say, well know, they can get it
up, but they can't orgasm. This

2772
02:43:04,650 --> 02:43:07,290
is a known side effect, which is
not mentioned in the

2773
02:43:07,290 --> 02:43:08,490
commercials, by the way.

2774
02:43:09,120 --> 02:43:10,620
Unknown: You know, the governor
of Utah was here and said

2775
02:43:10,620 --> 02:43:13,710
there's an explosion in his
State of interest. Are you

2776
02:43:13,710 --> 02:43:15,360
seeing that as a doctor?

2777
02:43:16,170 --> 02:43:19,860
Yes, I mean, there has been an
increase in demand for services.

2778
02:43:19,860 --> 02:43:25,890
But keep in mind services. trans
identities have been with us

2779
02:43:25,920 --> 02:43:29,520
since the antiquities, I mean,
the time of the Bible and

2780
02:43:30,480 --> 02:43:33,660
literature and art history. I
mean, there's examples of people

2781
02:43:33,660 --> 02:43:36,990
throughout so experts feel that
the incidence is actually never

2782
02:43:36,990 --> 02:43:40,680
changed. And but what we are
seeing is more people feeling

2783
02:43:40,680 --> 02:43:45,150
comfortable coming out. That
explains the rise. So she,

2784
02:43:45,180 --> 02:43:48,360
Adam Curry: he the doctor is
saying, it's been around

2785
02:43:48,360 --> 02:43:51,210
forever. It's in the Bible,
please. I'd like to know where.

2786
02:43:52,500 --> 02:43:55,830
And it's since antiquity so
since forever, there have been

2787
02:43:55,830 --> 02:43:59,250
trans people. I'm sure that's
probably true. But it's not that

2788
02:43:59,250 --> 02:44:03,210
people are sai opt or drugged
out and convinced to do this by

2789
02:44:03,210 --> 02:44:07,080
therapists, typically young
people know is because we're

2790
02:44:07,080 --> 02:44:09,750
more free, we can come out now
we can say it, there's more

2791
02:44:09,750 --> 02:44:11,820
people who are not afraid to say
it.

2792
02:44:11,850 --> 02:44:16,380
Unknown: So there's a spectrum
here, though, from identity all

2793
02:44:16,380 --> 02:44:21,990
the way to surgery. So how
common is it with surgery? For

2794
02:44:22,020 --> 02:44:25,080
someone under the age of 18, to
be able to access it?

2795
02:44:25,200 --> 02:44:29,340
Access surgery really is not
done under the age of 18. Except

2796
02:44:29,340 --> 02:44:32,100
in severe cases? It's usually Oh
shit, it's

2797
02:44:32,100 --> 02:44:36,000
Adam Curry: total horseshit. And
even except in severe cases,

2798
02:44:36,030 --> 02:44:39,150
what does that have to be? What
does that what does the severe

2799
02:44:39,150 --> 02:44:39,900
case

2800
02:44:39,960 --> 02:44:42,570
John C Dvorak: I have no idea is
bullshit. Do the funny thing is

2801
02:44:42,570 --> 02:44:45,660
this came up at the dinner
table. This is a meme that is

2802
02:44:45,660 --> 02:44:49,500
out there and everyone believes
it. Even though there's example

2803
02:44:49,500 --> 02:44:52,410
after example, in fact, there's
a recent case that's just

2804
02:44:52,410 --> 02:44:54,420
cropped up with somebody suing
the dye for

2805
02:44:54,900 --> 02:44:57,510
Adam Curry: over a million
dollars for a million dollars is

2806
02:44:57,510 --> 02:45:01,200
low. Yeah, that's just the
start. Oh, yeah. The gun to the

2807
02:45:01,200 --> 02:45:01,980
head is coming.

2808
02:45:02,370 --> 02:45:06,030
Unknown: Surgery really is not
done under the age of 18. Except

2809
02:45:06,030 --> 02:45:09,780
in severe cases, usually top
surgery for trans masculine

2810
02:45:09,780 --> 02:45:12,780
persons. And even that is rare.
I think the estimates are

2811
02:45:12,780 --> 02:45:16,800
something like 57 surgeries
under the age of 18. Were done

2812
02:45:16,800 --> 02:45:18,360
for trans individuals this

2813
02:45:18,870 --> 02:45:22,200
Adam Curry: i Okay, well, isn't
that amazing? I know 5% of them.

2814
02:45:22,620 --> 02:45:30,090
Me. If it's really truly 57 I
know of 5% of these top

2815
02:45:30,090 --> 02:45:33,600
surgeries that took place. So
this has to be in Angular two

2816
02:45:33,600 --> 02:45:35,160
John C Dvorak: or three, you
know, two or three? Sure

2817
02:45:35,160 --> 02:45:40,710
Adam Curry: do. Sure do. Yeah.
15 year olds, by the way. 50

2818
02:45:40,740 --> 02:45:42,270
must have been severe cases.

2819
02:45:42,450 --> 02:45:45,060
Unknown: Oh, severe cases. Yeah.
Majority of people though, that

2820
02:45:45,060 --> 02:45:49,440
are that do identify as TGD or
transgender diverse ou t

2821
02:45:49,440 --> 02:45:52,920
Adam Curry: g d, transgender,
diverse a new one.

2822
02:45:53,340 --> 02:45:57,540
Unknown: Don't access even
medicine or surgery. It's just a

2823
02:45:57,540 --> 02:46:02,310
feeling of maleness and fino
femaleness that that differs

2824
02:46:02,310 --> 02:46:06,300
from their birth, assign gender,
and gender identity being

2825
02:46:06,300 --> 02:46:08,100
diverse has lots of inputs,

2826
02:46:08,130 --> 02:46:10,680
Adam Curry: birth, assign
gender, I have to read you this

2827
02:46:10,710 --> 02:46:15,840
quick note. From certainly my
friend and his wife went to an

2828
02:46:15,840 --> 02:46:18,930
ultrasound appointment. I
figured get one day she will get

2829
02:46:18,930 --> 02:46:21,840
a kick out of this. In his
words. We went had our 20 week

2830
02:46:21,840 --> 02:46:24,270
ultrasound today. And at the end
of at the end, the lady was

2831
02:46:24,270 --> 02:46:27,810
filling out the info boxes. And
when the sex box came up, she

2832
02:46:27,810 --> 02:46:31,020
said they don't fill that out
anymore. She was told to skip

2833
02:46:31,020 --> 02:46:34,380
that field. My friend sat there
telling himself not to say

2834
02:46:34,380 --> 02:46:36,450
anything. But he couldn't keep
his mouth shut. He continued.

2835
02:46:36,780 --> 02:46:40,170
You don't check the male or
female box? And she said we used

2836
02:46:40,170 --> 02:46:43,890
to but we were told not to
anymore. I'm not sure why

2837
02:46:43,890 --> 02:46:48,150
though. How about that? So
that's your you're getting

2838
02:46:48,630 --> 02:46:51,210
John C Dvorak: the point where
she did it in a Bombay accent?

2839
02:46:51,210 --> 02:46:51,540
Yes.

2840
02:46:52,200 --> 02:46:55,110
Adam Curry: I didn't want to get
all racial. But yes, well, I

2841
02:46:55,110 --> 02:46:58,770
Unknown: did say an entity being
diverse has lots of inputs, not

2842
02:46:58,770 --> 02:47:01,890
just hormones, not just
chromosomes, not assigned

2843
02:47:02,520 --> 02:47:07,020
gender, but but a variety of
inputs. And, and that reflects

2844
02:47:07,020 --> 02:47:11,370
the the the numbers but they're,
they're low. And they'll always

2845
02:47:11,370 --> 02:47:14,700
be low. The current estimates
are about 0.6% of the

2846
02:47:14,700 --> 02:47:18,900
population, which is about 1.6
million people might be as high

2847
02:47:18,900 --> 02:47:24,510
as two or 3%. But it'll never be
much more than that. The

2848
02:47:24,510 --> 02:47:28,590
majority of people identify very
comfortable with their binary

2849
02:47:29,070 --> 02:47:34,230
assignments. And but this is a
vulnerable population. That

2850
02:47:34,230 --> 02:47:35,220
deserves health care.

2851
02:47:38,220 --> 02:47:41,400
Adam Curry: Okay, 50. Go ahead.

2852
02:47:41,820 --> 02:47:45,210
John C Dvorak: It's 50. Almost
50x. Yeah, Jesus, just what

2853
02:47:45,210 --> 02:47:49,020
point oh, six, but it could be
2% Oh, crap.

2854
02:47:49,320 --> 02:47:52,530
Unknown: So it deserves health
care. There are other treatments

2855
02:47:52,530 --> 02:47:55,920
as well, hormone therapies, and
the like a lot of these laws

2856
02:47:55,920 --> 02:48:00,450
that are recently becoming are
taking hold are aimed at this

2857
02:48:00,450 --> 02:48:05,160
young segment of the population.
How much research is there into

2858
02:48:05,160 --> 02:48:09,210
the effects of puberty blockers
and hormone treatments of people

2859
02:48:09,210 --> 02:48:09,990
in this age group?

2860
02:48:10,199 --> 02:48:13,739
Right? Well, we have decades of
experience with with trans

2861
02:48:13,739 --> 02:48:18,689
treatment. Right. And and that
shows unequivocally that

2862
02:48:18,689 --> 02:48:21,059
treatment is beneficial. But in
this age?

2863
02:48:22,350 --> 02:48:25,440
John C Dvorak: It's a lie. It's
a lie. No, she's she's changed

2864
02:48:26,220 --> 02:48:30,720
the kind of the conditions of
the question. Oh, okay. She

2865
02:48:30,720 --> 02:48:33,810
asked specifically about young
people getting all these puberty

2866
02:48:33,810 --> 02:48:36,630
blockers and the woman she a
woman guy, I don't know what

2867
02:48:36,780 --> 02:48:40,710
this person is they them switch
the conditions of the question

2868
02:48:40,710 --> 02:48:44,040
to discuss what has been going
on for decades with trans people

2869
02:48:44,040 --> 02:48:45,120
not with kids?

2870
02:48:45,180 --> 02:48:48,480
Adam Curry: Ah, good catch.
Well, listen again. So

2871
02:48:48,510 --> 02:48:51,150
Unknown: it deserves health
care. There are other treatments

2872
02:48:51,150 --> 02:48:54,540
as well, hormone therapies, and
the like. A lot of these laws

2873
02:48:54,540 --> 02:48:59,070
that are recently becoming are
taking hold are aimed at this

2874
02:48:59,070 --> 02:49:03,780
young segment of the population.
How much research is there into

2875
02:49:03,780 --> 02:49:07,830
the effects of puberty blockers
and hormone treatments of people

2876
02:49:07,830 --> 02:49:08,640
in this age group?

2877
02:49:08,820 --> 02:49:12,360
Right? Well, we have decades of
experience with with trans

2878
02:49:12,360 --> 02:49:17,310
treatment overall. And and that
shows unequivocally that

2879
02:49:17,310 --> 02:49:20,790
treatment is beneficial. But in
this age group we are we've only

2880
02:49:20,790 --> 02:49:25,440
been treating with hormone
blockers, which is the point of

2881
02:49:25,440 --> 02:49:29,610
real controversy that that
people are after, since the late

2882
02:49:29,610 --> 02:49:30,480
2000s.

2883
02:49:30,510 --> 02:49:34,230
Adam Curry: Yeah, also not
really true. It's 2019 is where

2884
02:49:34,230 --> 02:49:37,260
this really started right after
COVID. When doctors were afraid

2885
02:49:37,260 --> 02:49:40,650
to talk about ivermectin and
we're told not to and now, the

2886
02:49:40,650 --> 02:49:43,680
therapists are told not this is
what you got to prescribe.

2887
02:49:43,680 --> 02:49:46,740
There's got to be diagnosis. And
a prescription of something this

2888
02:49:46,740 --> 02:49:48,480
is this is an untruthful person.

2889
02:49:48,990 --> 02:49:52,140
Unknown: But in that time there
has been research especially

2890
02:49:52,140 --> 02:49:55,260
from groups in, in the
Netherlands.

2891
02:49:55,290 --> 02:49:57,870
Adam Curry: Yes, which I've read
in English and in the

2892
02:49:57,870 --> 02:49:58,950
Netherlandish

2893
02:49:58,980 --> 02:50:01,560
Unknown: but increasingly here
Are as well and experience with

2894
02:50:01,560 --> 02:50:05,040
this in this, the results are
similar. We're seeing certainly

2895
02:50:05,070 --> 02:50:08,040
very high levels of
satisfaction, Improve Self

2896
02:50:08,040 --> 02:50:10,590
Esteem, reduce suicidality,

2897
02:50:11,040 --> 02:50:13,800
Adam Curry: reduce suicidality.
So.

2898
02:50:14,280 --> 02:50:16,680
Unknown: So they seem similar to
what we've we've already

2899
02:50:16,710 --> 02:50:21,120
witnessed in adult populations.
But the controversy is that I

2900
02:50:21,120 --> 02:50:24,120
think people feel like this
number is increasing, and it's

2901
02:50:24,120 --> 02:50:28,680
going to like, envelop their
children and, and spread like a

2902
02:50:28,680 --> 02:50:31,680
contagion, which is just really
a false narrative.

2903
02:50:34,320 --> 02:50:38,190
Adam Curry: And so now two
kickers so now she's gonna say

2904
02:50:38,220 --> 02:50:42,810
all well, you know, we didn't
really mean to say that. This is

2905
02:50:42,810 --> 02:50:48,240
not just was phony fake. And now
Now CBS does something good.

2906
02:50:48,900 --> 02:50:52,050
Unknown: You know, there has
been controversy regarding your

2907
02:50:52,050 --> 02:50:55,320
particular group, which sets
some of these parameters because

2908
02:50:55,530 --> 02:50:59,790
they removed age guidelines from
the surgery recommendations. Why

2909
02:50:59,790 --> 02:51:01,470
did you take the age guidelines
out?

2910
02:51:01,949 --> 02:51:05,189
Well, the point on that is that
first of all, the what was

2911
02:51:05,489 --> 02:51:08,639
leaked apparently, was the the
draft guidelines, which we were

2912
02:51:08,640 --> 02:51:12,120
Adam Curry: Oh, it was a draft
guideline that got leaked,

2913
02:51:12,150 --> 02:51:15,420
apparently, no, you're ghoulish
person going

2914
02:51:15,420 --> 02:51:20,940
Unknown: to consider younger age
groupings. But But the important

2915
02:51:20,940 --> 02:51:24,360
point is that, but that's not
important right now, like cares,

2916
02:51:24,360 --> 02:51:29,730
individualized. And so age isn't
really the issue. Generally,

2917
02:51:29,730 --> 02:51:34,350
it's adulthood, and except in
severe cases, and

2918
02:51:34,650 --> 02:51:36,810
Adam Curry: by want to know what
severe cases are now,

2919
02:51:36,840 --> 02:51:39,000
Unknown: you know, again, a
draft guideline means it gets

2920
02:51:39,000 --> 02:51:43,110
input from around the world,
with available science that that

2921
02:51:43,470 --> 02:51:47,280
provides input and consensus. So
this is where the W path

2922
02:51:47,340 --> 02:51:51,420
standards of care are all about
their consensus in science based

2923
02:51:51,420 --> 02:51:55,230
guidelines. Because and, and I
want to add, though, that, you

2924
02:51:55,230 --> 02:51:58,050
know, some people say the
science is settled, I never say

2925
02:51:58,050 --> 02:52:01,380
the science is settled, I really
feel like as science is always

2926
02:52:01,380 --> 02:52:04,680
evolving, medicine is always
looking for new input and new

2927
02:52:04,680 --> 02:52:09,120
data. But what we see is is
promising, and again, this very

2928
02:52:09,120 --> 02:52:13,740
small subset of the population
is is worthy of that care, and

2929
02:52:13,740 --> 02:52:15,060
it seems to be beneficial.

2930
02:52:15,090 --> 02:52:18,540
Adam Curry: Now, did I just hear
at the end here that okay, yeah,

2931
02:52:18,570 --> 02:52:21,540
we you caught us it was, you
know, we really want to do it on

2932
02:52:21,540 --> 02:52:25,350
young people. But it seems to be
good. The data's promising. Are

2933
02:52:25,350 --> 02:52:29,820
they still experimenting with
their decades of experience?

2934
02:52:31,380 --> 02:52:33,720
John C Dvorak: That's what I
need $2 million a person.

2935
02:52:34,619 --> 02:52:37,289
Adam Curry: Yeah, but it's 7
million over the lifetime final

2936
02:52:37,289 --> 02:52:40,799
clip about the political aspect,
which, of course, is why this is

2937
02:52:40,799 --> 02:52:44,879
in legislation and why we have
parties battling over this for

2938
02:52:44,879 --> 02:52:46,769
the trans mount society.

2939
02:52:46,800 --> 02:52:49,230
Unknown: One of the things that
we heard on this program from

2940
02:52:49,230 --> 02:52:52,110
the governor of Utah was that he
felt that some of the

2941
02:52:52,140 --> 02:52:54,930
organizations like even the
American Academy of Pediatrics,

2942
02:52:54,930 --> 02:52:59,400
were too political on this
issue. What science are you

2943
02:52:59,400 --> 02:53:03,480
looking at where you think the
politics aren't interfering?

2944
02:53:04,770 --> 02:53:10,020
Well, I mean, you know, what,
what the critics are looking for

2945
02:53:10,020 --> 02:53:13,590
is what they call Level One
evidence. Now level one evidence

2946
02:53:13,590 --> 02:53:17,250
would require a systematic
review of all randomized

2947
02:53:17,250 --> 02:53:22,020
controlled studies in this area,
and if you look anywhere else in

2948
02:53:22,020 --> 02:53:28,170
medicine, but half of what we
now accept as routine treatment,

2949
02:53:28,230 --> 02:53:32,820
in in any field is not guided by
level one evidence level one, it

2950
02:53:32,820 --> 02:53:36,780
was take, for example, cancer
treatment or cleft palate

2951
02:53:36,780 --> 02:53:40,380
surgery, diabetes care, none of
those have level one evidence

2952
02:53:41,010 --> 02:53:46,350
because to do so, you would have
to induce introduce a placebo.

2953
02:53:46,590 --> 02:53:48,780
In other words, a non treatment
of that group, but can you

2954
02:53:48,780 --> 02:53:53,280
imagine offering someone who has
cancer non treatment, you're

2955
02:53:53,280 --> 02:53:54,810
saying, unethical,

2956
02:53:54,840 --> 02:53:57,450
there's a different benchmark
you're saying is being applied

2957
02:53:57,450 --> 02:54:00,630
here, Doctor, thank you for your
explanations.

2958
02:54:00,660 --> 02:54:03,840
Adam Curry: I thought that was
fascinating. So basically, just

2959
02:54:03,840 --> 02:54:07,920
like COVID vaccines and all
vaccines, no placebo trial

2960
02:54:07,920 --> 02:54:11,250
because could you imagine how
horrible if you got the placebo

2961
02:54:11,340 --> 02:54:16,530
during a trial and there's no
placebo trials with cancer or

2962
02:54:16,530 --> 02:54:23,340
cleft palate surgery? Why why is
you bring so is there any is

2963
02:54:23,340 --> 02:54:28,110
there any level one evidence
being presented or or, or

2964
02:54:28,290 --> 02:54:33,690
studied for anything in modern
medicine? It doesn't sound like

2965
02:54:33,690 --> 02:54:40,020
it. Even weight loss surgery or
weight loss drugs like ozempic

2966
02:54:40,020 --> 02:54:43,590
No, they just don't do it
anymore. People were under

2967
02:54:43,590 --> 02:54:45,780
attack from the pharmaceutical
industry

2968
02:54:52,590 --> 02:54:55,230
John C Dvorak: Well, this is
kind of interesting that this is

2969
02:54:55,230 --> 02:54:58,560
continuing is going to be I
don't know where it's gonna peak

2970
02:54:58,560 --> 02:55:01,980
is gotta peak is going to have
You have the anti trans view of

2971
02:55:01,980 --> 02:55:02,520
queer

2972
02:55:02,580 --> 02:55:06,450
Adam Curry: yeah you have the
answer when these when they do

2973
02:55:06,480 --> 02:55:09,150
when they get when these poor
kids start shooting doctors in

2974
02:55:09,150 --> 02:55:09,750
the head yeah well

2975
02:55:09,750 --> 02:55:11,370
John C Dvorak: that's yeah that
can be yours

2976
02:55:12,809 --> 02:55:15,479
Adam Curry: we have the first
lawsuits that's just the

2977
02:55:15,479 --> 02:55:20,129
beginning I think it's much
closer than than we realize this

2978
02:55:20,129 --> 02:55:22,049
is coming to maybe I sure hope

2979
02:55:22,740 --> 02:55:25,170
John C Dvorak: it's the
definitely the age group that

2980
02:55:25,560 --> 02:55:30,180
especially the younger kids that
are have a violent streak so

2981
02:55:30,180 --> 02:55:34,980
we've already seen the violent
streak from that crazy boy turn

2982
02:55:34,980 --> 02:55:39,180
girl or girl turned boy or
whatever it was a girl turn boy

2983
02:55:39,210 --> 02:55:41,250
that which is I think is the
more dangerous one because

2984
02:55:41,250 --> 02:55:44,850
Nashville give a bunch of
testosterone to some poor female

2985
02:55:45,030 --> 02:55:47,580
who's not used to it next thing
you know she's shooting up a

2986
02:55:47,580 --> 02:55:48,180
school

2987
02:55:51,030 --> 02:55:57,150
Adam Curry: Yes. Anyway um, man
so

2988
02:55:57,150 --> 02:56:01,470
John C Dvorak: since a
quarterback Joe burrow down yes.

2989
02:56:02,070 --> 02:56:05,910
Like he was running a play in
his right leg it wasn't from the

2990
02:56:05,910 --> 02:56:06,420
shot.

2991
02:56:07,620 --> 02:56:11,310
Adam Curry: I think just briefly
I need to do something on Africa

2992
02:56:11,310 --> 02:56:16,860
because that's it's really
heating up in Africa and we have

2993
02:56:17,490 --> 02:56:21,930
I mean, this this is just okay,
let me I don't know what to do

2994
02:56:22,650 --> 02:56:25,710
to have Africa boots on the
ground, which I should it should

2995
02:56:25,710 --> 02:56:28,590
we take our final break and then
and do that some Africa stuff

2996
02:56:28,590 --> 02:56:31,110
because I think is really
important, because that's where

2997
02:56:31,110 --> 02:56:34,320
John C Dvorak: I think Africa is
important. Okay,

2998
02:56:34,920 --> 02:56:37,740
Unknown: I'm gonna show my son
moved by donate to no agenda.

2999
02:56:37,770 --> 02:56:40,920
Imagine all the people who could
do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun

3000
02:56:48,570 --> 02:56:51,210
John C Dvorak: and in fact, we
do have more than a few people

3001
02:56:51,210 --> 02:56:59,850
to thank for show. This the 77
Six I think yeah. 5077 showing

3002
02:56:59,850 --> 02:57:04,650
was Tom Starkweather. And
Stafford Virginia arm whose

3003
02:57:04,980 --> 02:57:09,540
Dad's got a 74th birthday coming
up $148 From him sir silent

3004
02:57:09,570 --> 02:57:14,400
Niskayuna this guy you know on
an old guy would never I don't

3005
02:57:14,400 --> 02:57:21,750
know have a clue. New York $133
needs a deed douching joke out

3006
02:57:24,630 --> 02:57:25,020
what?

3007
02:57:26,100 --> 02:57:28,470
Adam Curry: Setting everything
else up? He's a DD

3008
02:57:30,150 --> 02:57:32,550
Unknown: you've been do sorry
about that.

3009
02:57:34,320 --> 02:57:39,930
John C Dvorak: Grid. Xerte
souverain in snake, snake, snake

3010
02:57:39,930 --> 02:57:44,820
Netherlands. Good. Very good.
$101.01 with a birthday shout

3011
02:57:44,820 --> 02:57:52,500
out to his daughter, Jana. Bryan
pie in Ashland, Massachusetts

3012
02:57:52,530 --> 02:57:58,530
808 in support of all the boobs
hanging around out here. Kevin

3013
02:57:58,530 --> 02:58:01,560
McLaughlin to her buddy in
Concord, North Carolina and now

3014
02:58:01,560 --> 02:58:09,900
it was Charentais melons. 808
specifically, which is a which

3015
02:58:09,900 --> 02:58:15,420
is literally a melon. Sure Dean
and bibra Lake Washington 808

3016
02:58:15,660 --> 02:58:20,670
another lover of boobs he says
Benjamin dis DITZLER in Kennesaw

3017
02:58:20,670 --> 02:58:27,690
Georgia 6969 Mr meet up sir
spooky in Western Springs

3018
02:58:27,690 --> 02:58:33,450
Illinois 6666 requesting move
making karma give you that the

3019
02:58:33,450 --> 02:58:37,260
end. Kevin McLaughlin again
keeping up to pace with these

3020
02:58:37,260 --> 02:58:45,000
two donations as 6808 plus 606.
And this was a jade do melon

3021
02:58:45,000 --> 02:58:51,150
donation. Though small boobs. J
do is another little melon. And

3022
02:58:51,150 --> 02:58:53,430
I've had those are pretty good.
Actually. The other ones are

3023
02:58:53,430 --> 02:58:56,940
two. I think the Tuscan
mountains. My favorite. You just

3024
02:58:56,940 --> 02:59:01,470
love melons. Well Tuscans in
particular Chad Larson, White

3025
02:59:01,470 --> 02:59:04,890
Bear Lake Minnesota 606 needs a
de douchey

3026
02:59:06,540 --> 02:59:08,370
Unknown: you've been de deuced

3027
02:59:09,180 --> 02:59:12,060
John C Dvorak: Joey in the woods
in Middleton Connecticut wishes

3028
02:59:12,060 --> 02:59:15,570
the wishes her husband a happy
birthday Anna de douching.

3029
02:59:17,250 --> 02:59:22,770
You've been de deuced she came
in with 5964 Baron sir phenom

3030
02:59:22,770 --> 02:59:27,690
and Applewood. Appleton
Wisconsin. 5633. And is his

3031
02:59:27,690 --> 02:59:32,100
birthday and is not in yellow is
like yellow. I just can't see on

3032
02:59:32,100 --> 02:59:37,410
the screen. Yes, Tim. He's sell
in Hanford, California for 510

3033
02:59:37,410 --> 02:59:43,920
By the way, barons are phenom
5633. Sander vont Moolenaar in

3034
02:59:43,950 --> 02:59:53,040
Arnheim Arnhem 85 Alina druon in
Calgary, Alberta 55 A surprise

3035
02:59:53,040 --> 02:59:57,990
night of astonishment surprise,
it surprise night of

3036
02:59:57,990 --> 03:00:05,940
astonishment you come On
Oklahoma City, 444 Brent Staton

3037
03:00:06,150 --> 03:00:11,760
in Huntsville, Ontario. D 333.
Robert Bodoland in Shelby

3038
03:00:12,000 --> 03:00:14,910
Township, Michigan 51. Come

3039
03:00:14,910 --> 03:00:17,490
Adam Curry: close to the mic,
John, you're cutting out and I'm

3040
03:00:17,490 --> 03:00:17,790
moving

3041
03:00:17,790 --> 03:00:20,490
John C Dvorak: the mic is what
I'm doing. Brett Butler and

3042
03:00:20,490 --> 03:00:29,190
coming Georgia Bob 5069. Baronet
Sir Michael Anthony. The may or

3043
03:00:30,150 --> 03:00:34,500
may may Yeah. He's got to have
some good material coming up

3044
03:00:34,500 --> 03:00:37,980
with his latest thing. Guys your
40th birthday good for him

3045
03:00:37,980 --> 03:00:41,820
Baronet Sir Michael Anthony
$50.40 Sir Brian with a why in

3046
03:00:41,820 --> 03:00:49,620
Aurora, California $50.01. Scott
Nelson and Council Bluffs, Iowa

3047
03:00:49,620 --> 03:00:52,890
5001 And the following people
are $50 donors Charles Boyd and

3048
03:00:52,890 --> 03:00:56,460
San Marcos Texas, Andrew
Butterfield in Bettendorf Iowa

3049
03:00:56,520 --> 03:01:01,620
Samuel kanaday in North
Riverside, Illinois, Brian

3050
03:01:01,620 --> 03:01:08,370
Hummel in Wimberley, Texas.
Simon Aronowitz Aruna wits in

3051
03:01:08,370 --> 03:01:13,950
North Wembley, Middlesex UK. He
timer was geniza de douching

3052
03:01:15,690 --> 03:01:17,520
Unknown: you've been de deuced

3053
03:01:18,210 --> 03:01:21,840
John C Dvorak: bill go Lopez
crane in Ithaca, New York. Kevin

3054
03:01:21,870 --> 03:01:28,470
Sullivan in Wallingford,
Connecticut. Mara Beth mallet in

3055
03:01:28,470 --> 03:01:33,990
Spokane Valley Washington 50.
Daniel first in kaka Juana

3056
03:01:34,080 --> 03:01:42,360
Wisconsin, our car car go Kona
Kona Washington. John Walter in

3057
03:01:42,360 --> 03:01:46,470
Wenatchee Washington. I'm sorry,
could CONUS in Wisconsin, John

3058
03:01:46,470 --> 03:01:51,180
Walters in Wenatchee Wisconsin,
Washington you Amy Grohl and

3059
03:01:51,180 --> 03:01:54,840
bureau in Washington right by
the airport attack squad in

3060
03:01:54,840 --> 03:01:59,250
Columbus, Georgia. Carl Vogler
in Dillon Beach, California,

3061
03:01:59,520 --> 03:02:05,130
Elise Grosso, two donations ones
for James O. Miller in

3062
03:02:05,130 --> 03:02:10,290
Blairsville, Georgia, James O
Miller also there are a lot of

3063
03:02:10,320 --> 03:02:14,370
50s today for a Scott Brinkley
and Christiansburg. Virginia.

3064
03:02:14,940 --> 03:02:18,630
Shanna Norberg in Seattle,
Washington, Scott McCarty in

3065
03:02:18,630 --> 03:02:23,370
Lodi, California Jack Schofield
field in yankeetown, Florida,

3066
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Douglas Ellis in New York City,
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Dave Holland, Dave Hunter, Dave
hunter. He needs something here.

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We give you that the end there,
Martin. We got you right. We got

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some donors from Holland because
your podcast told you. David is

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sorry in West Hollywood,
California. We still haven't

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seen anyone from Fredericksburg.

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Adam Curry: Well, we had we had
Matt long he donated the last

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show because because I bitched
everybody out and he's the guy

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from Patriot after

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John C Dvorak: one guy okay,
David is sorry West Hollywood,

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California Brian M min. Heiser
in Lancaster, California Richard

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Wow. The big list. Yeah. Michael
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Carolina. Greg Hart lob in
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Florissant, Colorado 50. These
are all donors for today's show.

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Adam Curry: And we have a note
from layaway night who was

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coming up in Trimble John, I
don't want you to let you know

3085
03:03:43,140 --> 03:03:45,240
that I was checking my
accounting and I've made night

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status I've been donating since
June of 2019 to the best podcast

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in the universe. That's all we
asked for if everyone did that,

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donation segments would be
short, be more room for show.

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like to call up my friend Andre
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more and not entertain your exit
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Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.

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Adam Curry: Let's vote for jobs.
And we thank all these producers

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Starkweather we got to end your
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everybody had the best podcast
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don't want to do span there's no
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furious becomes a Baronet.
That's what he called the two

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times night and we thank you
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lifetime of your support of the
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bring you to the roundtable
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nights and the Dames and they
have rings and a beautiful

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ceremony and we have two days
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got the quad quad blades coming
up. Here you go. Four blades in

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one. Janice Hall, Amy Dunn,
Brian Wolfe and Trimble all of

3127
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you up on the podium and
congratulations. Thanks to your

3128
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support of the no agenda show I
am very proud to pronounce the K

3129
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the as Baronet test of the
rustling forests Dame AMS up

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Lake Country sir Wolfpack Ultra
and sore Lord Zeke of Louisiana

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for you. We've got hookers and
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request we have prime rib big
potato and a very nice glass of

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red wine, protein shakes and
Spanish octopus for all and in

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addition to that, we've got
harlots and hell doll pepperoni

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rolls and pale ales, redheads
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plasticizers we got vaca Manila
bong hits and bourbon we got

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ginger ale and Jerboas and of
course we have mutton and Mead

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everybody loves the mutton in
meat it is an acquired taste but

3139
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once your day or night you
cannot get rid of it go to no

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agenda rings.com Everybody can
go there and take a look at

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these handsome Knight and Dame
Signet rings. You can use that

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to seal your important
correspondence with the included

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wax and of course your
certificate of authenticity.

3144
03:07:21,600 --> 03:07:24,150
Welcome new knights welcome new
dame's thank you for supporting

3145
03:07:24,150 --> 03:07:26,040
the no agenda show. No one

3146
03:07:33,570 --> 03:07:36,630
like everything even the meetups
are growing the list grows

3147
03:07:36,630 --> 03:07:39,180
longer people understand how
important it is to have

3148
03:07:39,180 --> 03:07:42,150
connection in this crazy world
because it does offer

3149
03:07:42,150 --> 03:07:45,330
protection. And here's an
example of what a meetup sounds

3150
03:07:45,330 --> 03:07:47,220
like this was the Sugar Hill
meetup

3151
03:07:47,550 --> 03:07:51,630
Unknown: sir compost heap here
with the cocaine Crusader Sugar

3152
03:07:51,630 --> 03:07:55,830
Hill GA meetup. Love you John
and Adam. However, we just want

3153
03:07:55,830 --> 03:07:59,460
to say that we are a little bit
concerned that the psyops that

3154
03:07:59,460 --> 03:08:03,690
you are running considering that
we have not yet experienced a

3155
03:08:04,050 --> 03:08:07,680
interview and part of the first
break of your show

3156
03:08:08,130 --> 03:08:12,840
in the morning. This is Carrie
we are on the hunt for the owner

3157
03:08:12,840 --> 03:08:18,150
of the cooking baggy but we have
zero clues. Hi guys, this is

3158
03:08:18,150 --> 03:08:21,540
Janet. I just want to let you
know that I love you both

3159
03:08:21,570 --> 03:08:22,950
equally. Oh, thank you,

3160
03:08:22,980 --> 03:08:24,660
sir Island dog here.

3161
03:08:24,900 --> 03:08:28,770
It's been a great five Hardy
souls drinking beer and talking

3162
03:08:28,770 --> 03:08:29,820
about no agenda.

3163
03:08:29,940 --> 03:08:32,250
Adam Curry: And that's all you
have to do. And you can be

3164
03:08:32,250 --> 03:08:36,270
anything you want to be be
yourself go to a meet up like we

3165
03:08:36,270 --> 03:08:39,540
have going on right now the
North Georgia monthly meetup.

3166
03:08:39,720 --> 03:08:42,240
Actually it kicks off at six
o'clock at Cherry Street brewing

3167
03:08:42,240 --> 03:08:45,120
in Alpharetta, Georgia the Three
Mile High roundabout tornado

3168
03:08:45,120 --> 03:08:48,030
watch party, that'll be in
Denver City Park, Denver,

3169
03:08:48,030 --> 03:08:52,200
Colorado 630 Today, on Saturday,
the local 305 International

3170
03:08:52,200 --> 03:08:56,310
Brotherhood of mouth hitters.
They will get together at the

3171
03:08:56,310 --> 03:09:00,570
Verizon restaurant in Miami,
Florida. And we have the finding

3172
03:09:00,570 --> 03:09:02,850
the others at two o'clock
Eastern time. That'll be in

3173
03:09:02,850 --> 03:09:07,590
Tampa so cigar City Brewing at
Spruce Street on Saturday as

3174
03:09:07,590 --> 03:09:10,710
well. Michigan local number one
summer in the beer garden

3175
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brewery Becker and Brighton
Michigan. We have the Star

3176
03:09:14,100 --> 03:09:18,300
Chamber of Idaho in El Mariachi
and star Idaho on Saturday also

3177
03:09:18,300 --> 03:09:21,450
on Saturday North wake It's been
too long and the music was too

3178
03:09:21,450 --> 03:09:24,390
loud meet up Compass Rose
brewery in Raleigh, North

3179
03:09:24,390 --> 03:09:28,740
Carolina, the pig roast because
why not in Alaska? Anchorage at

3180
03:09:28,740 --> 03:09:31,890
Sur lanes house you got to go to
no agenda meetups.com and let

3181
03:09:31,890 --> 03:09:36,450
them know RSVP Danang beach
meetup Danang, Vietnam that'll

3182
03:09:36,450 --> 03:09:41,250
be on Saturday five o'clock
Vietnam time east west Brewing

3183
03:09:41,250 --> 03:09:44,310
Company in Danang Vietnam can't
wait for a meet up report you

3184
03:09:44,310 --> 03:09:47,430
must send one the it's been a
while podcast will be on the

3185
03:09:47,430 --> 03:09:51,330
next show day on Sunday. At one
o'clock Eastern in Ireland owned

3186
03:09:51,360 --> 03:09:54,960
Jager house pub in Charleston,
South Carolina. And finally our

3187
03:09:54,960 --> 03:09:57,870
next meet up on the show day
Sunday unpronounceable edition

3188
03:09:57,960 --> 03:10:03,180
3:33pm at BBC grill in Olathe,
Kansas Spencer The Wolf of

3189
03:10:03,180 --> 03:10:06,330
Kansas will be hosting that one.
There are meetups around the

3190
03:10:06,330 --> 03:10:09,870
world around the country
anywhere in even in Kaiser

3191
03:10:09,870 --> 03:10:14,430
lauten, Germany coming up in
August, Turkey Konya, Turkey on

3192
03:10:14,430 --> 03:10:18,480
the 27th for East London
Netherlands. You name it is

3193
03:10:18,510 --> 03:10:21,750
there's a meet up and if you
can't find one near you, well

3194
03:10:21,750 --> 03:10:27,540
wait. Let me give you another
promo here. A homemade promo

3195
03:10:27,570 --> 03:10:30,270
Unknown: in the morning Mainers
please join us for the FEMA

3196
03:10:30,270 --> 03:10:33,480
Region One Northern Territory
first semi annual backyard

3197
03:10:33,480 --> 03:10:37,320
bonfire bash on Saturday, August
28. The 4:30pm in Thompson,

3198
03:10:37,320 --> 03:10:41,070
Maine, bring your friends
birthing persons human resources

3199
03:10:41,070 --> 03:10:44,970
and chess feeders, BYOB and
something for the grill. We're

3200
03:10:44,970 --> 03:10:47,430
also encouraging everyone to
bring some treasure. We'll do a

3201
03:10:47,430 --> 03:10:51,420
group donation and perform mas
de douchey Hey, Adam and John

3202
03:10:51,420 --> 03:10:55,020
come north and join the fun. See
no agenda meetups.com For more

3203
03:10:55,020 --> 03:10:59,520
details and RSVP and adios Hui
Hui n the such

3204
03:10:59,610 --> 03:11:02,250
Adam Curry: and there you go
that is what it sounds like no

3205
03:11:02,250 --> 03:11:05,490
agenda meetup go there set one
up if you can't find one near

3206
03:11:05,490 --> 03:11:09,210
you no agenda meetup.com it's
easy and it's always a party.

3207
03:11:09,450 --> 03:11:26,100
Sometimes you go days you will
be triggered all you want to say

3208
03:11:27,420 --> 03:11:35,070
is like apart Do you have any
good ISOs because I have a crap

3209
03:11:35,070 --> 03:11:38,460
I have a couple of they're good.
I think I only have one crappy

3210
03:11:38,460 --> 03:11:41,400
one. Let me play Let me see. I
don't think it's any good. Here

3211
03:11:41,400 --> 03:11:44,790
it is. No Labels has no agenda.
Donald like it. I'm sorry. Yeah,

3212
03:11:44,820 --> 03:11:46,020
Unknown: no good. No. Right.
What

3213
03:11:46,020 --> 03:11:47,490
Adam Curry: do you have? A Well,
I've

3214
03:11:47,490 --> 03:11:49,470
John C Dvorak: got so cute.

3215
03:11:49,679 --> 03:11:55,679
Adam Curry: Whoo. That might be
good. That was so cute. Okay,

3216
03:11:56,670 --> 03:11:57,540
John C Dvorak: and internet.

3217
03:11:57,779 --> 03:12:00,119
Unknown: God, the internet is
just like a crazy mess right

3218
03:12:00,119 --> 03:12:00,419
now.

3219
03:12:01,800 --> 03:12:03,960
Adam Curry: I'm not crazy about
either one of them

3220
03:12:05,070 --> 03:12:07,920
John C Dvorak: wasn't loaded up.

3221
03:12:08,070 --> 03:12:10,680
Adam Curry: I think we should do
so cute. It was so cute. So

3222
03:12:10,680 --> 03:12:14,910
cute. So cute. So cute is good.
Alright. Alright, Africa,

3223
03:12:14,940 --> 03:12:18,090
because it's important to get
this in because that's the new

3224
03:12:18,120 --> 03:12:21,690
territory. And I'm just looking
at Ukraine. And the port of

3225
03:12:21,690 --> 03:12:25,770
Odessa keeps getting bombed they
say by Russia, which I think is

3226
03:12:25,770 --> 03:12:29,730
true, because from our analysis,
I have a feeling that the

3227
03:12:29,730 --> 03:12:32,550
weapons are just, they're just
all being shipped down from

3228
03:12:32,550 --> 03:12:37,830
Odessa down to Africa, under the
guise of its grain, just grain.

3229
03:12:38,760 --> 03:12:44,730
That would be the only reason.
And it makes sense. Yes. And so

3230
03:12:44,760 --> 03:12:50,760
Russia now is Putin Putin
specifically has kind of done a

3231
03:12:50,760 --> 03:12:54,300
check move. I don't know if it's
checkmate. But he's saying Don't

3232
03:12:54,300 --> 03:12:56,700
worry about it. Don't we don't
have a grain deal. You're not

3233
03:12:56,700 --> 03:12:59,760
going to get that grain from
Ukraine. No Ukraine grain don't

3234
03:12:59,760 --> 03:13:01,800
worry about we're gonna take
care of us.

3235
03:13:01,860 --> 03:13:04,950
Unknown: Vladimir Putin says
Russia will provide free grain

3236
03:13:04,950 --> 03:13:08,610
to six African nations in the
coming months. The Russian

3237
03:13:08,610 --> 03:13:11,100
President made the promise
during a summit with African

3238
03:13:11,100 --> 03:13:14,400
leaders in St. Petersburg, that
Moscow recently withdrew from a

3239
03:13:14,400 --> 03:13:18,300
Black Sea deal that had allowed
Ukraine to export much needed

3240
03:13:18,300 --> 03:13:21,780
supplies to the continent.
Russia's decision has pushed up

3241
03:13:21,780 --> 03:13:25,080
global grain prices again and
further threatened food security

3242
03:13:25,080 --> 03:13:28,590
in parts of Africa. But as the
word delay is only five years

3243
03:13:28,620 --> 03:13:31,020
speaking at the summit, Putin
said his country would

3244
03:13:31,020 --> 03:13:34,260
compensate for the lack of grain
making its way to Africa.

3245
03:13:35,010 --> 03:13:40,590
Our country is ready to make up
for the Ukrainian green, both on

3246
03:13:40,590 --> 03:13:45,150
commercial basis and free of
charge to those countries in

3247
03:13:45,150 --> 03:13:48,540
Africa that are in dire need,
especially since we expect a

3248
03:13:48,540 --> 03:13:53,670
very cold high harvest this
year. And we will ask for the

3249
03:13:53,670 --> 03:13:57,540
specific details. I should like
to say that in the near months,

3250
03:13:57,630 --> 03:14:02,220
three, four months, we would be
ready to provide to Burkina Faso

3251
03:14:02,220 --> 03:14:07,440
Zimbabwe, Mali, Somalia, the
Central African Republic and

3252
03:14:07,440 --> 03:14:16,020
Eritrea. Ready to supply 2050
It's all done tons of rain to

3253
03:14:16,050 --> 03:14:20,190
each ensure free shipping of
these cargo.

3254
03:14:21,000 --> 03:14:24,000
Adam Curry: Free Shipping. He's
like Amazon is the Amazon of

3255
03:14:24,000 --> 03:14:29,550
grain free shipping and free
shipping. So that's an

3256
03:14:29,550 --> 03:14:33,330
interesting move. Now it's not
all the African countries that

3257
03:14:33,360 --> 03:14:38,010
have issues with food. But we
got a note from one of our

3258
03:14:38,010 --> 03:14:41,130
producers and this is a boots on
the ground that blew me away. I

3259
03:14:41,130 --> 03:14:43,980
just want to read it because
this will give you a much better

3260
03:14:43,980 --> 03:14:48,000
idea of what is happening in
Africa, and why we need to keep

3261
03:14:48,000 --> 03:14:53,730
our eye on it. This is from
absurd Captain red beard of the

3262
03:14:53,730 --> 03:14:56,820
Space Coast. Your recent
coverage of the activity in

3263
03:14:56,820 --> 03:14:59,700
Africa caught my attention as
I've spent a significant amount

3264
03:14:59,700 --> 03:15:02,880
of time I'm there in support of
certain three letter agencies.

3265
03:15:03,210 --> 03:15:06,390
By the way, we have the best
producers in the universe. My

3266
03:15:06,390 --> 03:15:09,960
most relevant trip was actually
in 2008 2009. One of my many

3267
03:15:09,960 --> 03:15:13,140
tasks was collect on the ground
intelligence information

3268
03:15:13,380 --> 03:15:17,460
regarding smuggling routes
between Djibouti and Khartoum at

3269
03:15:17,460 --> 03:15:22,170
the time cartoon kind of in the
news. At the time, Sudan was a

3270
03:15:22,170 --> 03:15:25,770
single country in 2011, South
Sudan became an independent

3271
03:15:25,770 --> 03:15:28,920
country. With the support of
Uncle Sam, we remember it well.

3272
03:15:29,190 --> 03:15:32,640
So apparently, the Intel
collection worked, those pesky

3273
03:15:32,640 --> 03:15:35,820
Muslims in Khartoum wouldn't
allow the West to stage any

3274
03:15:35,820 --> 03:15:38,730
goods or services in their
country. So we just made another

3275
03:15:38,730 --> 03:15:41,580
one that would support us.
Needless to say, su Don via

3276
03:15:41,580 --> 03:15:45,990
Uganda has been in play for a
long time, Uganda. Isn't that

3277
03:15:45,990 --> 03:15:48,630
interesting that we know from
the international arms dealer,

3278
03:15:48,720 --> 03:15:52,800
that the United Nations is
accepting military aircraft and

3279
03:15:52,800 --> 03:15:55,500
probably other weapons down
there sold through international

3280
03:15:55,500 --> 03:15:58,950
arms dealers. This effort
wouldn't have been possible

3281
03:15:58,950 --> 03:16:02,070
without the support of Uganda,
the West has pumped so much

3282
03:16:02,070 --> 03:16:04,950
money in goods into Uganda
during your weary Musa Benny's

3283
03:16:04,950 --> 03:16:07,740
reign. They're completely
dependent on the handouts, and

3284
03:16:07,740 --> 03:16:10,710
we'll do whatever we tell them.
There are many interesting

3285
03:16:10,710 --> 03:16:14,070
correlations between Uganda and
Ukraine. If you're looking for a

3286
03:16:14,070 --> 03:16:16,860
blueprint for upcoming
activities in Central Africa,

3287
03:16:16,890 --> 03:16:19,620
Africa, for example, the
presidents of both countries

3288
03:16:19,710 --> 03:16:22,380
have suspended elections and
made themselves de facto

3289
03:16:22,380 --> 03:16:25,650
dictators with the support of
the West. And Mussolini is

3290
03:16:25,650 --> 03:16:28,530
currently the president of
Uganda for life. He came to

3291
03:16:28,530 --> 03:16:31,860
power during a bloody uprising a
coup, but then again, that's how

3292
03:16:31,860 --> 03:16:34,740
most African leaders come to
power. Another interesting

3293
03:16:34,740 --> 03:16:37,920
comparison is the East African
Federation and the European

3294
03:16:37,920 --> 03:16:41,640
Union. When the global war on
terror, terrorism started, the

3295
03:16:41,640 --> 03:16:47,190
West was was keen to recruit
Uganda already part of the AEHF

3296
03:16:47,340 --> 03:16:52,140
to do their bidding in Somalia.
Another West Clark seven. This

3297
03:16:52,140 --> 03:16:55,740
seems eerily similar to what is
happening with Ukraine build up

3298
03:16:55,740 --> 03:17:00,180
a stooge to fight our proxy wars
similar to Poland in the EU. I

3299
03:17:00,180 --> 03:17:03,180
believe Uganda would be the
staging ground for any major

3300
03:17:03,180 --> 03:17:07,110
military activities in Central
Africa. My first trip to Africa

3301
03:17:07,140 --> 03:17:10,860
as was as a member of the
Combined Joint Task Force Horn

3302
03:17:10,860 --> 03:17:15,360
of Africa, CJ TF HOA. What
started as a small base in

3303
03:17:15,360 --> 03:17:19,710
Djibouti to fight in Somalia has
now turned to AFRICOM Africa

3304
03:17:19,710 --> 03:17:24,000
Command with headquarters in
Germany. A CJ TF doesn't rate a

3305
03:17:24,000 --> 03:17:26,400
whole lot of dollars in the
defense budget, but a major

3306
03:17:26,400 --> 03:17:30,450
combatant command like AFRICOM
can carry a huge purse. This

3307
03:17:30,450 --> 03:17:34,470
buildup has been slow and quiet.
Very interesting. sigh up rabbit

3308
03:17:34,470 --> 03:17:39,750
hole to go down is the Joseph
Kony 2012. Saga. Boy, do we

3309
03:17:39,750 --> 03:17:43,560
remember that one, John? Oh,
yeah. When there was a video all

3310
03:17:43,560 --> 03:17:46,890
of a sudden with 100 million
views overnight on YouTube,

3311
03:17:46,890 --> 03:17:50,010
which no one deemed possible.
Yeah, it wasn't.

3312
03:17:50,100 --> 03:17:51,900
John C Dvorak: It was a scam.
Joseph Kony

3313
03:17:51,900 --> 03:17:54,630
Adam Curry: is a brutal warlord
whose main business is raising

3314
03:17:54,630 --> 03:17:57,300
villages and creating child
soldiers. However, it's my

3315
03:17:57,300 --> 03:18:00,720
personal belief. He's a psyop by
the Ugandan government against

3316
03:18:00,720 --> 03:18:03,150
their own people to continue
their own version of the

3317
03:18:03,150 --> 03:18:06,900
military industrial complex. We
were fighting Joseph Kony and

3318
03:18:06,900 --> 03:18:10,800
the Lord's Resistance Army back
in the early 2000s. And now I

3319
03:18:10,800 --> 03:18:13,350
wonder if that was all in
support of the Sudanese Civil

3320
03:18:13,350 --> 03:18:16,650
War and splitting up that
country. There's another matter

3321
03:18:16,650 --> 03:18:19,500
of Chinese intelligence on the
Dark Continent, but I'm saving

3322
03:18:19,500 --> 03:18:22,560
that for my next email. Thank
you for your courage Captain red

3323
03:18:22,560 --> 03:18:28,680
beard of the Space Coast. So
makes total sense. And this is a

3324
03:18:28,710 --> 03:18:32,730
proxy war against Russia and
China and everything we can do.

3325
03:18:34,020 --> 03:18:35,280
John C Dvorak: Well, we keep
them busy.

3326
03:18:36,480 --> 03:18:38,550
Adam Curry: Did you have
something to say? Yeah,

3327
03:18:38,580 --> 03:18:40,380
John C Dvorak: I wanted to bring
in this as you brought up the

3328
03:18:40,380 --> 03:18:43,290
Ukraine and being some sort of
parallel what what do you think

3329
03:18:43,290 --> 03:18:46,560
the deal is with this it has not
been played up by anyone

3330
03:18:46,560 --> 03:18:51,210
including the BBC. Zelinsky
fires the UK ambassador.

3331
03:18:51,359 --> 03:18:53,939
Unknown: tensions rise as
Ukraine's President Volodymyr

3332
03:18:53,939 --> 03:18:57,029
Zelensky discharges the
country's ambassador to Britain.

3333
03:18:57,539 --> 03:18:59,849
This is days after the
representative publicly

3334
03:18:59,849 --> 03:19:03,239
criticized the President. The
sudden dismissal of Ambassador

3335
03:19:03,239 --> 03:19:07,109
Vadim Khristenko, also removed
him as Ukraine's representative

3336
03:19:07,109 --> 03:19:10,409
to the International Maritime
Organization, but Zelensky

3337
03:19:10,439 --> 03:19:13,589
didn't provide a specific reason
for the decision. The dispute

3338
03:19:13,589 --> 03:19:16,859
emerged when persico was
questioned about remarks made by

3339
03:19:16,859 --> 03:19:20,279
the outgoing British defense
secretary Ben Wallace, urging

3340
03:19:20,279 --> 03:19:23,699
Keith to display more gratitude
for foreign weapons assistance

3341
03:19:23,879 --> 03:19:27,569
in countering Russia's occupying
forces. In response to the

3342
03:19:27,569 --> 03:19:30,239
Lansky said we could get up in
the morning and express our

3343
03:19:30,239 --> 03:19:34,169
words of gratitude to the
minister prystaiko told Sky News

3344
03:19:34,169 --> 03:19:37,199
in a recent interview that the
Ukrainian President's remarks

3345
03:19:37,199 --> 03:19:41,369
contained a touch of sarcasm. As
of now there is no official word

3346
03:19:41,369 --> 03:19:42,779
I'm Pristiq goes replacement.

3347
03:19:42,960 --> 03:19:43,920
Adam Curry: What do you think it
is?

3348
03:19:46,710 --> 03:19:48,750
John C Dvorak: Well, I think it
has to do with somebody not

3349
03:19:48,750 --> 03:19:53,520
playing ball. It was our doing
to get rid of this guy. I'm

3350
03:19:53,550 --> 03:19:56,760
convinced of it. Yes would be
behind it. Unless you didn't

3351
03:19:56,760 --> 03:19:59,700
care if anybody he's heard these
complaints before they doesn't

3352
03:19:59,700 --> 03:20:06,390
thank Everybody enough isn't
necessarily fire him. She wasn't

3353
03:20:06,390 --> 03:20:10,080
a fire, you can't fire that that
person uses can rouse them, you

3354
03:20:10,080 --> 03:20:11,130
know, out.

3355
03:20:11,250 --> 03:20:14,040
Adam Curry: I have I have one
last clip that may shed some

3356
03:20:14,040 --> 03:20:16,950
light on where this whole thing
ends as we are on the wasn't the

3357
03:20:16,950 --> 03:20:22,590
78th anniversary of armistice
with North Korea. I think it's

3358
03:20:22,740 --> 03:20:25,950
John C Dvorak: a yes is suddenly
so there's a North Korean thing

3359
03:20:25,950 --> 03:20:26,280
going on.

3360
03:20:26,310 --> 03:20:28,230
Adam Curry: That's actually kind
of interesting because you know,

3361
03:20:28,230 --> 03:20:31,470
the North Korean War never
ended. It's you know, are

3362
03:20:31,710 --> 03:20:35,220
John C Dvorak: going on
literally I bet. In essence,

3363
03:20:35,220 --> 03:20:36,810
it's still in play.

3364
03:20:36,869 --> 03:20:39,329
Adam Curry: And what do we have
between North and South Korea?

3365
03:20:40,950 --> 03:20:42,540
John C Dvorak: A demilitarized
zone?

3366
03:20:42,630 --> 03:20:46,770
Adam Curry: Yes. And I think
this is really going to be the

3367
03:20:46,770 --> 03:20:50,520
final solution. There will be an
armistice between Russia and

3368
03:20:50,520 --> 03:20:55,080
Ukraine with a demilitarized
zone, which is an obvious no go

3369
03:20:55,080 --> 03:20:55,560
zone.

3370
03:20:55,590 --> 03:20:57,690
Unknown: So we've just been
hearing there. We're talking

3371
03:20:57,690 --> 03:21:01,740
about huge stretches of land
here. How challenging? Is it

3372
03:21:01,740 --> 03:21:04,380
going to be to demine all of it?

3373
03:21:05,640 --> 03:21:11,220
Well, yes, we did just some
estimates. This, you know, the

3374
03:21:11,250 --> 03:21:14,790
mighty area consists 160,000
square kilometers, which is

3375
03:21:14,790 --> 03:21:18,660
nearly half the size of the
country of Germany. And I just

3376
03:21:18,660 --> 03:21:24,030
heard recently that the figure
of almost 750 years that's been

3377
03:21:24,030 --> 03:21:27,570
cited that it would take to
fully demand the area the size

3378
03:21:27,600 --> 03:21:30,930
of Ukraine. This is unlike
anything that the world has

3379
03:21:30,930 --> 03:21:35,280
dealt with since World War Two.
And mind you Ukraine, up until

3380
03:21:35,280 --> 03:21:41,010
now has had been dealing with
demining leftovers from both

3381
03:21:41,040 --> 03:21:45,900
World Wars one and two. Imagine
it's taken decades and Jacobs to

3382
03:21:45,900 --> 03:21:50,610
deal with that. And now with
this really hot warfare, the

3383
03:21:50,610 --> 03:21:56,370
largest war based land based war
that Europe has had since World

3384
03:21:56,370 --> 03:22:02,550
War Two. The amount of work to
be done once the war is over is

3385
03:22:02,550 --> 03:22:06,060
staggering. And the war is
actually far from over.

3386
03:22:06,300 --> 03:22:09,960
Adam Curry: Yeah, the war will
never be over. It'll just be

3387
03:22:09,990 --> 03:22:13,620
armistice, and no one will be
able to go between those two

3388
03:22:13,620 --> 03:22:18,360
areas because it's just filled
with mines and cluster bombs and

3389
03:22:18,360 --> 03:22:23,100
unexploded shells and it's it's
a hellscape Yeah. What do you

3390
03:22:23,100 --> 03:22:28,860
think? I like it. The hellscape
or the No, I

3391
03:22:28,860 --> 03:22:31,680
John C Dvorak: like the thesis,
because there doesn't seem to be

3392
03:22:31,680 --> 03:22:34,770
any way out of this thing except
for that thesis and it did work

3393
03:22:34,770 --> 03:22:36,000
before with North Korea.

3394
03:22:36,240 --> 03:22:39,030
Adam Curry: And it's great for
the military industrial complex

3395
03:22:39,030 --> 03:22:42,330
you get to keep everybody scared
that Russia will do it again and

3396
03:22:42,480 --> 03:22:46,650
and we need to move to Africa
people. Gotta

3397
03:22:46,650 --> 03:22:48,960
John C Dvorak: give time,
different time to pick up time

3398
03:22:48,960 --> 03:22:49,710
to move on.

3399
03:22:49,710 --> 03:22:52,680
Adam Curry: Exactly. At least
that's what the curry Devorah

3400
03:22:52,680 --> 03:22:56,640
Consulting Group recommends.
Coming up next on no agenda

3401
03:22:56,640 --> 03:23:01,740
stream we have the complex
candor, with Sam and Vox. And we

3402
03:23:01,740 --> 03:23:05,610
have some short little end of
show mix here. We've got clip

3403
03:23:05,610 --> 03:23:10,050
custodian Neal Jones with a boob
summer mix. He's got DS last

3404
03:23:10,050 --> 03:23:16,440
with Matty J. Nice little ditty
and a an urn in Wall Street

3405
03:23:16,440 --> 03:23:19,800
earning seasons end of show mix
from Tom Stark where they're all

3406
03:23:19,800 --> 03:23:23,700
about ai ai coming to you from
the heart of the Texas hill

3407
03:23:23,700 --> 03:23:25,680
country here in FEMA Region
number six in the morning,

3408
03:23:25,680 --> 03:23:27,240
everybody. I'm Adam curry,

3409
03:23:27,900 --> 03:23:30,300
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley where I remained

3410
03:23:30,600 --> 03:23:34,260
and the weather's nice, it's
nice. I'm Jhansi Dvorak, we

3411
03:23:34,260 --> 03:23:37,200
Adam Curry: return on Sunday.
Please join us then and enjoy

3412
03:23:37,200 --> 03:23:42,060
your meetups and remember us at
the boruch.org/na no agenda show

3413
03:23:42,060 --> 03:23:47,610
dotnet until then, adios mofos a
hui and such

3414
03:23:56,100 --> 03:24:05,070
Unknown: oops that is too hot.
Oops. I think they're fantastic.

3415
03:24:05,190 --> 03:24:05,760
Oops.

3416
03:24:17,940 --> 03:24:18,510
Oops.

3417
03:24:19,680 --> 03:24:22,080
I think they're fantastic. Oops.

3418
03:24:25,590 --> 03:24:28,800
You've all know Harare, where he
writes. He wrote a book called

3419
03:24:28,800 --> 03:24:32,640
Homo Deus, where he's talking
about how to make men gods. I

3420
03:24:32,640 --> 03:24:36,420
mean, like the whole idea is
just so out of this world, that

3421
03:24:36,420 --> 03:24:39,150
things that they are
experimenting with and want to

3422
03:24:39,150 --> 03:24:44,940
do in in reintroducing kind of
that, that eugenics movement

3423
03:24:44,940 --> 03:24:45,330
listen

3424
03:24:45,330 --> 03:24:49,740
into RFK on that XFL to to his
story of addiction and drugs,

3425
03:24:49,740 --> 03:24:53,670
your word is bond. Back slapping
is what I'm not hiding trying to

3426
03:24:53,670 --> 03:24:57,240
avoid a prevents or the like a
zone defense. Number two is what

3427
03:24:57,240 --> 03:25:02,100
I meant. How to use cement a
strong legacy. See? I guess

3428
03:25:02,100 --> 03:25:05,940
what's the insincere and
dishonest am 5am Tom about

3429
03:25:05,940 --> 03:25:10,800
Robert Kennedy referring to him
as Bob K Bobby The Q R K jus

3430
03:25:11,220 --> 03:25:15,720
your chicken made in the lumen
Nevada's not a tumor, a lawyer

3431
03:25:15,720 --> 03:25:22,350
to now they call them anti Vax.
I mean the hue podcast president

3432
03:25:22,350 --> 03:25:26,490
that every man that can't
resist, but resist be much Al

3433
03:25:26,490 --> 03:25:29,220
Sharpton who wasn't too sharp
with the tongue and hard to

3434
03:25:29,220 --> 03:25:35,820
trust a public speaker ran a
preacher who used to run I mean,

3435
03:25:35,820 --> 03:25:40,290
not a race but I think the
teleprompter one, no one put

3436
03:25:40,290 --> 03:25:43,590
your money where your mouth is.
Don't Penny pinch your treasure

3437
03:25:43,710 --> 03:25:47,880
or be so selfish to do some
value meaningful to you just put

3438
03:25:47,880 --> 03:25:51,210
it in a number controlling but
don't be my dude

3439
03:25:57,930 --> 03:26:01,710
is no longer something confined
to r&d labs and garage based

3440
03:26:01,710 --> 03:26:05,280
startups. They've heard that
some people think robots are

3441
03:26:05,280 --> 03:26:09,180
being Terminator like machines.
And then we have people like,

3442
03:26:09,450 --> 03:26:12,780
well, Elon Musk is very close to
cutting edge.

3443
03:26:13,830 --> 03:26:16,740
We should advise you however
that our preliminary findings

3444
03:26:16,740 --> 03:26:20,820
indicate that your onboard Niner
zero computer is in error

3445
03:26:20,940 --> 03:26:22,590
Adam Curry: identify malfunction
immediately

3446
03:26:22,980 --> 03:26:26,400
Unknown: on condition. Once
there is super intelligence, the

3447
03:26:26,400 --> 03:26:29,400
fate of humanity may depend on
what the super intelligence

3448
03:26:29,400 --> 03:26:30,870
does. That's amazing.

3449
03:26:31,680 --> 03:26:35,820
I was listening to a podcast
hosted by Adam curry and John

3450
03:26:35,820 --> 03:26:40,320
Cena artificial intelligence
will give us new jobs jobs jobs

3451
03:26:43,260 --> 03:26:48,630
it's going to be all right
again. Something happening over

3452
03:26:48,630 --> 03:26:51,480
here. Whoa,

3453
03:26:52,500 --> 03:26:55,980
it's likely rather to spoof
right by a no computer

3454
03:26:56,340 --> 03:26:59,130
Adam Curry: like is then go to
the end.

3455
03:26:59,580 --> 03:27:02,130
Unknown: I hope the two of you
are not concerned about this.

3456
03:27:17,100 --> 03:27:24,150
MOPO boruch.org/and That was so
cute.