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Adam Curry: Live, Adam curry
Jhansi Tavares say June 22 2023

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This is your award winning
combination media assassination

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episode 1566. This

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Unknown: is no agenda looking
over

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Adam Curry: here, not over there
and broadcasting live from the

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heart of the Texas hill country
here in FEMA Region number six

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in the morning, everybody. I'm
Adam curry

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John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where I'm

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wondering, When did Chloe Moretz
become Chloe Grace Moretz, um,

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Genesee Dvorak?

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Adam Curry: Wow. A riddle this
early on in the show. A riddle

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who is Chloe Moretz.

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John C Dvorak: chloro go nuts.
Chloe Grace. Marissa, who is

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that? She's an actress she's
she's very if you saw or you

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know who she was. She was on the
Today Show. Our three this

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morning I was watching as eating
as I was eating breakfast.

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Adam Curry: More interesting
would be watching your show

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John C Dvorak: ever?

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Adam Curry: Well, you know, as
we are rewatching friends, as we

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do from time to time, we noticed
the moment when Courtney Cox

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Bitcoin became Courtney Cox Once
you marry and I forgot. Why are

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we even talking about this?

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John C Dvorak: You I just
mentioned it as an opener. i

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Adam Curry: What? What did you
have for breakfast? I was going

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for breakfast is more
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John C Dvorak: I had a pancake
and an egg on top. Grand Slam

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star

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Adam Curry: truckers truckstop
breakfast I love that.

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Excellent. Well good then you're
ready for it

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yeah, this has got to be the
biggest distraction of the week.

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Everybody falling for it the
most emailed articles the most

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emailed and posted theories and
you even participated at some

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point. No, yes you did on no
agenda social. It did. Yes. You

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did. You're like yeah, that was
my thought. Like they probably

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it's probably hit job on
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John C Dvorak: job guy. Yeah,
job. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Pakistani

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billionaire. Yeah,

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Adam Curry: it's the sub

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Unknown: back in 2018. Industry
experts expressed concern about

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the Titan sub in a letter
addressed to stock did rush, the

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CEO of ocean gate, which
operates the sub. In that letter

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obtained by the New York Times
and later authenticated by ABC

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News. The Marine technology
society warned of potentially

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catastrophic problems with the
Titans development that could

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have serious consequences. The
group insisted on oversight from

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a third party organization,
there has been a lot of

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headlines calling this a tourist
hub. This is not a tourist hub.

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It must be understood this as an
experimental craft, and that

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there are significant risks
attached to it. hemper says

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after the letter was leaked,
ocean gate CEO made changes he

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made it more clear that it's an
expeditionary or a experimental

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aircraft. Meanwhile, many
observers have been surprised to

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learn the vessel is steered
using a video game controller.

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But that does not concern
experts few people

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are aware of is that the unit US
military has happily embraced

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this kind of technology. We are
operating drones. We are firing

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lasers and operating periscopes
on US Navy submarines using

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similar technology.

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Adam Curry: I love the story.
This is the story. Everybody

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wants. Oh yeah, man. I mean,
this is why we all watch space

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launches. That we want to see
him die. Come on, man. Listen,

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we want to help me now. It will
be very NASCAR theory. Yes.

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It'll be very unsatisfactory. If
we're not if we're not pulling

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dead bodies out of a sub
depleted of air. That's what we

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want. The whole world is
captured by it.

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John C Dvorak: It's almost I had
no in the mind of ever

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discussing this story. But I'm
glad you did. i By the way, it

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was only brought into it as a
response to somebody mentioning

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my thesis.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, but I mean,
you engage man. You engaged in

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the distraction of the century
Game

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John C Dvorak: Controller aspect
of this is the funniest part.

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Adam Curry: show is run on a
game controller. What are people

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talking about?

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John C Dvorak: Everything is
it's a great product.

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Adam Curry: Yes. We love it. The
member when where's the data

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glove? Bring the day the glove
back. I love that thing.

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Remember, people were hacking
the data glove from Nintendo.

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Remember that thing? That was?
Wow, that thing was

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John C Dvorak: cool. You have
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Adam Curry: I have some I had
one at some point. Definitely.

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Definitely. Oh, I thought that
thing was the best.

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John C Dvorak: You know my
favorite thing about this story

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is the people coming out of the
woodwork to talk about how

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dangerous this is. And my
favorite guy. Was was some

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character says All it needs is
it Nick in the hall? And it'll

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collapse on itself.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, that's what
we're all waiting for. And I

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love the we heard we heard
knocking here we heard knocking

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with one of our probes that we
can't find it. I mean, I had

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John C Dvorak: supposedly
somebody heard knocking from an

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airplane, what was that?

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Adam Curry: They dropped a
probe, they dropped a probe. And

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then they said, probe, the same
probe, they dropped a blow to

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Nord Stream pipeline. Okay, so
that was one story. But the next

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story, this I love this story.
We've been tracking it, we've

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been tracking everything from
fake meat to the new cell, cell

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based meat, which is this
ghastly idea of extracting cells

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from an animal, presumably a
chicken or chicken egg, and then

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growing meat in in the big vat,
and then serving that as like

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growing bacteria. Yes, growing
cells like cancer cells. So the

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USDA, not

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John C Dvorak: the order he used
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Adam Curry: Explain gwrc.
Everyone knows what it is.

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John C Dvorak: It's a biscuit
goo that you put in the bottom

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of the petri dish to

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Adam Curry: morrow to mold stuff
they mined. So I'm thinking so

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the USDA approved the use of
this approve this. Now, that's

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not the FDA, the Food and Drug
Administration, but the USDA

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approved it. So it now can go
into some restaurants. And

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there's a whole new marketing
tactic behind it. And I just

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have to go through this because
that I mean, there's money

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behind this, their scripts
behind this. It's identical

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scripts. You're allowed to me to
do a variation, if you will. But

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of course, initially, this was
climate change. We need to move

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to protein and soy based meat,
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the world. According to Greta, I
think was yesterday was five

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years since the world would be
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, she said
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end yesterday. Yeah. And we're
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didn't say this yesterday. She
said it five years ago, he

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Adam Curry: come to an end, but
it would be pretty much however,

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yeah, it'd be hell. So ABC, who
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money. And let's see if you can
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the support. And then I have
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And then I have the the mega
native ad from NPR.

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Unknown: This morning, the USDA
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lab grown meat to be sold to the
public. So that's where it all

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starts just a few cells to
cultivated meat producers now

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getting the green light to begin
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chicken products. Lab grown meat
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living animals such as
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incubated and grown into large
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mass bio reactors. ABCs Devin
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California based upside foods
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making chicken in there. Yeah.
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if you look at this, this is a
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tank. And we take cells from a
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to grow the equivalent of one
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chickens. So you're saying that
this factory you can make more

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meat faster and cleaner than an
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ultimately, yes,

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the company says lab grown meat
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while using a fraction of the
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helping to reduce greenhouse gas
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silver bullet with the potential
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implications and questions about
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experts say more study is needed

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more research and just caution I
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are going to use or present the
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as for how the lab grown chicken
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alright, my first bite
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Adam Curry: chicken Yeah, okay,
so the payoff is the same for

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everybody. Oh, it tastes like
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the new marketing the new
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But no, not really. You take it
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don't kill an animal. living
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Unknown: The age of lab grown
meat has arrived in this

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country. The Agriculture
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California companies to sell
chicken grown in steel tanks

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using cells that come from an
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stored cells. To sell cultivated
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at a restaurant in San Francisco
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owned by famed chef Jose on
today's before hitting stores

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Adam Curry: CBS didn't get any
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use the script. Do you know that
Chef by the way, the famed chef

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he's a famous chef. Okay, well
he needs to be checked off the

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list. He's no good. No. I think
all the fox affiliates they got

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the they got the ad by the first
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Unknown: you as regulators
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from animal cells. It allows two
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lab grown meat to restaurants.
The cultivated meat is grown in

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steel tanks using cells that
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Adam Curry: cells, a living
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Unknown: The US Department of
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sale of chicken made from animal
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or cultured meat as it's been
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using cells that come from a
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sheets and cut to mimic real
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companies, upside foods and good
meats have raised to be the

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first in the US to sell meat
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Adam Curry: Oh, nice variation,
not from slaughtered animals. So

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you could only imagine the the
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a field day with this one. That
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it's a this is something you'd
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John C Dvorak: If you think
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Adam Curry: know you have you
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in recent shows with these these
women dingbats? Yes, I hate to

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Unknown: US Department of
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Adam Curry: She'll start off
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she starts off serious and the
minute she's no she's getting to

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the story. And to her, her
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John C Dvorak: or her comedy
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Adam Curry: comedy partner, she
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Unknown: The US Department of
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time in history given a green
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sell meat that is grown directly
from animal cells without

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slaughtering the animal to she

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Adam Curry: got the slaughtering
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good. So she's read the the
required copy.

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Unknown: Until recently it was
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scientists were developing it in
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been replaced by production
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1000s of pounds of meat a year.
Rolla, Harris Allison Aubrey has

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visited these companies and
tasted the meat and joins us

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Adam Curry: She's tasted the

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Unknown: mean I'm really excited
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And BRS Allison Aubrey has

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visited these companies and
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Adam Curry: Hi, there. Hi there.
Hey, Alison. Hi, there's time

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animals slaughtering

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Adam Curry: animals. You getting
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Unknown: but the scientists
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received USDA clearance today
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animal's body, then they feed
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meat in big stainless steel
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John C Dvorak: Does this sound
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immediately?

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Adam Curry: Like Bill Nye the
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mean, yeah, I mean, they're just
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John C Dvorak: gushing is the
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Unknown: Their production
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almost. But instead of beer,
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Adam Curry: meat. Oh, yes, this
is so she's a science editor. I

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miss it because she's really
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Unknown: I do not know how I
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go on here. Hearing about me for
a long time. Now. I mean, a lot

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of us have eaten our fair share
of veggie burgers. Burgers over

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the years. But what makes this
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this is nothing like the
Impossible Burger or,

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know that this is nothing like

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potato protein and a bunch of
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Adam Curry: Oh, it's Oh, it
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happy to know that this stuff
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brewed this meat and it's
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foods which is headquartered in
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chicken which is grown directly
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than 99% Chicken cells. It was
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Adam Curry: their secret
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Unknown: a lovely buttery wine
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Adam Curry: John. Oh, she got
duped. They put this hunk of

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celcom cultured precancerous goo
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grown directly from chicken
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wine probably tastes good. What
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told the CEO of upside foods,
uma valetti. Hey, it tastes just

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like chicken. Oh, this

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Adam Curry: is this. Everyone's
got the great line tastes just

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like chicken. And this guy. I
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actually the chicken growing
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Unknown: It is chicken. It's
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Adam Curry: Google, like Sundar
Pichai. He's moonlighting as the

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chicken guy. I'm telling you,

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Unknown: it is chicken. It's
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animal cells in a different way.
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John C Dvorak: it is. Right
there. It's

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Unknown: a lie. It is not
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John C Dvorak: It's not chicken.
It's a tumor. What they're doing

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is growing tumors. Well, at
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not a tumor?

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Adam Curry: I'm in agreeance was
rebranded.

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John C Dvorak: Right, get it get
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quick chicken tumor tumors.

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Adam Curry: Just plain old
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John C Dvorak: butters and wine
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Unknown: It is chicken is just
chicken grown directly from

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animal cells in a different way
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Adam Curry: interesting how they
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not did it mainly mainly makes
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ass chickens walking around. I
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should have played the jingle.
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John C Dvorak: We had to work on
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Unknown: Yeah, here it is.
Here's the jingle

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Adam Curry: We predicted this
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years ago. years ago. It's

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Unknown: just chicken grown
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different way in a very clean
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John C Dvorak: Now Dr. valetti
Russia. Yeah, sure. So these

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journalists does and you've
you've already given us ABC,

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CBS, NBC. Now we're on NPR.
There's one journalist anywhere,

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say to that guy. Is there
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You can grow like beef or
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or anything? Is there any other
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chicken? Can

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Adam Curry: we go woolly
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woolly mammoth.

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John C Dvorak: Did anyone ask
that simple question. That would

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Adam Curry: it. It wasn't asked
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a toss away at the end of this
report. My question would be,

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can we grow human meat for
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they've basically replicated the
texture with

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just chicken grown directly from
animal cells in a different way

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cardiologist who became a

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vegetarian but he loves the
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this is a better way to produce
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for the environment. And as the
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the idea of sparing animals
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it? Right now don't expect to
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start out both companies have
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chefs upside foods is working
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Michelin starred chef in San
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other company that got clearance
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megastar Jose Andres

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Adam Curry: who will yeah you
know these guys?

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John C Dvorak: Well, this she
she mentioned Dominique Crenn.

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Yeah. Which is Corinne Atal Lea.
The most expensive restaurant or

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one of them. Definitely in San
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making this mistake. Even.
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prices that are restaurants she
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Well, I mean, reputation ruined
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Unknown: serve cultivated
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way that meats produced today?
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is an in depth question. It
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traditional meat industry says
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meat production has a big
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talked about Bruce Friedrich who
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Institute he investments in
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there are more than 150
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cultivated meat and seafood to
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guy who has investments in

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alternative food for some for
some free standing advice which

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would not be influenced by
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did me gives consumers
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me, but it requires a fraction
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significantly less water and

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now it remains to be seen
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production can lower

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Adam Curry: that guy's that
guy's got to get with the

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program. He is missing the boat
instead of it's no longer about

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climate change, buddy. It's no
longer about that. It's about

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not killing animals not
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the title which was
disappointing that didn't use

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the term the title of the NPR
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Unknown: greenhouse gas
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but what is clear is that now
that cultivated meat is approved

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for sale it is no longer science
fiction, people will get a

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chance to taste it.

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All right, that is NPR is
Allison. Aubrey, thank you so

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Adam Curry: Thank you. Great to
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you. Okay. So I'll then I'll
shut up. So while everyone was

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distracted by no kill meat and
brewing meat, massive question,

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John C Dvorak: If you're a vegan
How do you take this

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philosophically?

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Adam Curry: I think it's okay,
because you're not killing the

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John C Dvorak: I don't think
what if you Yeah, I'm not I

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don't think that's the point of
veganism.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, but maybe we
can grab the vegans as well.

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John C Dvorak: about vegetarian
if you're okay to forget the

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vegan Cisco's vegetarians?
vegetarians don't eat meat

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because it's it has anything to
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Adam Curry: Yeah. Say

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Adam Curry: Right? But is the
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killing of animals. I mean, I
don't know I think

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John C Dvorak: veganism isn't
it? No, I

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Adam Curry: think I don't know.
I I I love meat I love and I'm

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like too crazy about chicken
because you know, unless I get

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one from local from someone's
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It is a terrible product. So
it's most vicious terrible these

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days, too. We eat beef. But now
we have no no brewing. It'll be

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even a better slogan brewing
beef. Get on it, people will

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start to brew some beef. So
anyway, all of this was

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distraction. Hahaha fantastic
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Meanwhile, the elites of the
world, including our leaders,

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were literally dividing up the
spoils of war in Ukraine. And I

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looked into

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John C Dvorak: this they had a
meeting already about re how

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they're going to rebuild who's
gonna get what contract and oh,

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yeah, it's not even over.

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Adam Curry: Oh, no. But this
thing has been going on for six

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years. I'll explain first now
this is the report that got me

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interested TRT there's the
Turkish radio and television

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Unknown: Billions of dollars
have already been pledged to

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supply and train Ukraine's
military. But attention is now

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turning to Ukraine's
reconstruction. The British are

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hosting a Ukraine recovery
conference in London this week.

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He was Secretary Antony Blinken
arrived on Tuesday, over 60

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countries will be represented.

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President Biden said from the
outset of Russia's aggression

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against Ukraine that we would
stand with Ukraine for as long

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as it takes. And both of our
countries are deeply committed

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to that we will continue to
deliver on that commitment,

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including through a new robust
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be able to announce tomorrow.

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On Tuesday, the EU Commission
announced another $54 billion

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for the next four years.

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grants. The Preserve will

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provide first of all perspective
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other donors to step up to the

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World Bank says Ukraine will
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same as Germany after World War
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efficient coordination and
private sector investment. And

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that will require reassurance
about kyiv's commitment to

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reform and fight

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Adam Curry: corruption. So he
kind of gave it away there. This

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used to be called the Ukraine
reform Conference, which started

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in 2017. That was the first one
is held in in the UK. And they

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changed that last year into the
Ukraine recovery conference, you

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could keep the same acronym the
same logos. They just replaced

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the word reform with recovery.
You and I looked at the program

459
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and I watch the videos and it
makes no sense to listen to

460
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them. They are talking about
import export taxes taxation on

461
00:25:12,300 --> 00:25:16,110
agriculture companies they're
the soil contracts they're

462
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dividing this entire country up
amongst themselves with your

463
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with our money. Oh yeah, no this
is we have a grants and loans

464
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and all this stuff. Oh yes, it's
gonna be and it's all about

465
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building back better I kid you
not restoring livelihood. They

466
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don't care about Ukrainian
people how many we need to get

467
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more workers back there to
exploit the soil if this is big

468
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agriculture in a massive way.
And then we've got BlackRock and

469
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,880
JP Morgan, they will be handling
the recovery bank. Well, what

470
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,780
could possibly go wrong with
that? to it, this is

471
00:25:57,780 --> 00:26:02,190
unbelievable. No, it's I totally
believable, but no one was

472
00:26:02,190 --> 00:26:04,860
really reporting on this.
There's not a lot of us news

473
00:26:04,860 --> 00:26:09,990
about this reporting on it now.
Not even not even UK NEWS. And

474
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everyone was their queen Ursula
Blinken and I even Prince

475
00:26:14,190 --> 00:26:14,820
Charles

476
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Unknown: at Kings welcome for
Ukraine's Prime Minister Denis

477
00:26:17,429 --> 00:26:20,609
Shamal. as world leaders and
foreign ministers line up behind

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yes, we're in this together.
We're in this together says the

479
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head of the EU Commission ocean
of underlying together account

480
00:26:26,759 --> 00:26:28,169
how much and exactly who

481
00:26:28,170 --> 00:26:31,200
Adam Curry: says there's
bullcrap we're in this together

482
00:26:31,230 --> 00:26:36,570
get taken our money, giving it
to contractors, the contractor?

483
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Speech it, it's crazy. It's
every single big agriculture

484
00:26:41,790 --> 00:26:45,510
company, you can think of all
the banks, they are dividing. I

485
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think at this point, let's just
keep the war going until we've

486
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got all the agreements signed. I
mean, it's like, just what do

487
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,310
you think they're doing? Well, I
didn't I didn't realize that

488
00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:59,220
they were just I mean, now I do.
I mean, we're seeing that

489
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,460
they're fighting over 50 meters
of turf.

490
00:27:04,620 --> 00:27:06,120
John C Dvorak: no agreement on
that yet.

491
00:27:06,419 --> 00:27:08,009
Adam Curry: No, that's
unimportant. They don't care

492
00:27:08,009 --> 00:27:10,919
about that. It's about all the
big agricultural land and the

493
00:27:10,919 --> 00:27:14,699
financing sector and I guess
they'll have a tax free haven

494
00:27:14,699 --> 00:27:17,249
for tech goodbye Ireland's
together. We're in

495
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Unknown: this together, says the
head of the EU Commission,

496
00:27:19,350 --> 00:27:22,290
Ursula von der Leyen put
together to work out how much

497
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and exactly who's paying for the
cost of repair and

498
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reconstruction for a nation
still at war. before they

499
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arrive, they were sent a clear
pitch from Ukraine's president

500
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and his nightly address,

501
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meets the non green rebuilt
Ukraine and transformed Ukraine

502
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a strengthened Ukraine is a
security carrier and a security

503
00:27:39,630 --> 00:27:42,420
guarantor, Woodlands protection
against any form of Russian

504
00:27:42,420 --> 00:27:45,090
terror and protection against
any repetition of Russian

505
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aggression is after

506
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the devastation from 483 days of
conflict is clear across the

507
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country. The World Bank says
Ukraine's reparation effort

508
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,170
could cost around $400 billion
over the next decade. But that

509
00:27:58,170 --> 00:28:02,310
estimate was before the counter
offensive. Oh meanie mark, and

510
00:28:02,310 --> 00:28:06,060
the sudden destruction of the
dam. And with Russia still

511
00:28:06,060 --> 00:28:08,910
targeting infrastructure.
Analysts say the final bill

512
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could be over a trillion
dollars.

513
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Adam Curry: Why did they blow up
the dam so we can pay people to

514
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go and rebuild it. Of course,
this is the rubble lie strategy.

515
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The Jackals are out time to
build build build

516
00:28:21,780 --> 00:28:25,530
Unknown: better for the US and
UK. It was a joint message for

517
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countries to dig deep

518
00:28:27,180 --> 00:28:33,060
ensure, as teams, independent
nation demands not only

519
00:28:33,060 --> 00:28:38,760
providing security, but also for
its economy, its democracy, and

520
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,560
its full integration in Europe.

521
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key to the success of the
pledging conference will be how

522
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to guarantee that Ukraine is a
place to invest in the future.

523
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The niceties in a country with
endemic problems of corruption

524
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and a possibility of a conflict
lasting years. Thereafter, the

525
00:28:54,150 --> 00:28:57,330
billions already spent arming
the defense of a nation leaders

526
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,320
are looking ahead to peacetime
Ukraine to ensure legacy their

527
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:02,730
health wasn't for nothing.

528
00:29:03,060 --> 00:29:06,990
Adam Curry: No, listen to that.
Listen to that music. It played

529
00:29:06,990 --> 00:29:10,320
that music. Yeah, I was the guy
in Oregon grinder with a monkey

530
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:16,470
on his shoulder outside of the
conference. Oh, yeah. If you

531
00:29:16,470 --> 00:29:21,300
look at all these things, all
it's about tax tax tax, you

532
00:29:21,300 --> 00:29:24,750
know, of course, we want a place
where we can, you know, put our

533
00:29:24,780 --> 00:29:29,820
our cheap workers, the ones we
haven't replaced with AI. You

534
00:29:29,820 --> 00:29:32,520
know, customer help, you know,
customer service people, I

535
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:37,080
guess. And we want to know, tax,
we want to be able to put our

536
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:41,040
banking there so that there's no
tax on taxes go

537
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,740
John C Dvorak: in there. Yeah.
You know, I think they did it.

538
00:29:43,740 --> 00:29:47,190
What they did is identified
Ukraine, by the way, people have

539
00:29:47,190 --> 00:29:51,480
to always realize Ukraine is not
a hole in the wall. It's a huge

540
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,020
country, in the entire country
of France and German combined, I

541
00:29:55,020 --> 00:29:59,580
think yeah, it's big. It's huge.
It's massive, and it's largely

542
00:29:59,580 --> 00:30:02,640
agriculture. Cultural and it
says Dad to look at and go.

543
00:30:03,390 --> 00:30:06,390
Because I when I was in
Slovenia, I can notice the same

544
00:30:06,390 --> 00:30:09,960
thing in the wine growing areas
like these guys are ripe to be

545
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:15,540
plucked, because they like
they're old fashioned. They do

546
00:30:15,540 --> 00:30:20,430
things on small scales and lots
of them. Just this, how will

547
00:30:20,430 --> 00:30:22,830
that get rid of everything
they're doing it we'll just move

548
00:30:22,830 --> 00:30:26,340
our big ag in Europe and we can,
you know, feed the world from

549
00:30:26,340 --> 00:30:27,210
Ukraine.

550
00:30:27,780 --> 00:30:31,620
Adam Curry: That's what Ukraine
was doing your investment

551
00:30:31,620 --> 00:30:35,610
opportunities and de risking
mechanisms to mobilize private

552
00:30:35,610 --> 00:30:40,680
finance in Ukraine. This, this
will not go over in a country

553
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,670
that's wrought with war. I will
point out this session will

554
00:30:44,670 --> 00:30:48,150
review approaches to attract
private capital at scale into

555
00:30:48,150 --> 00:30:51,900
priority projects and sectors of
Ukraine's economy. It will

556
00:30:51,900 --> 00:30:54,750
showcase investment
opportunities in Ukraine now and

557
00:30:54,750 --> 00:30:57,990
in the future. And because they
know the future and the

558
00:30:57,990 --> 00:31:00,630
availability of support from the
Government of Ukraine and

559
00:31:00,630 --> 00:31:04,440
international partners to de
risk projects in the form of

560
00:31:04,530 --> 00:31:07,890
concessional finance or finance,
what does that mean

561
00:31:07,890 --> 00:31:11,760
concessional? I think that means
in that case, we have to look it

562
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:18,450
up, concessional. Let me see
definition of concession

563
00:31:18,510 --> 00:31:25,080
concessional I think conceding,
conceding something such as a

564
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,530
point previously claimed that is
later conceded. Oh, no. So

565
00:31:28,530 --> 00:31:32,880
that's like money that the show
the rip off, it's clearly a rip

566
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:33,210
off

567
00:31:33,510 --> 00:31:35,550
John C Dvorak: different kinds
of rip off that road familiar

568
00:31:35,550 --> 00:31:36,660
with obviously.

569
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Adam Curry: We're not going to
get any of that. Where was it

570
00:31:43,470 --> 00:31:43,740
not?

571
00:31:45,180 --> 00:31:48,090
John C Dvorak: Oh, by the way,
in your point about goodbye,

572
00:31:48,090 --> 00:31:53,190
Ireland. Yeah. Not only that,
but no and no offense to the

573
00:31:53,190 --> 00:31:56,340
Irish. We have a lot of Irish
listeners and they're sharp but

574
00:31:56,550 --> 00:32:01,320
the Ukraine people. They're
they're always been into high

575
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:06,510
tech. That's perfect for to move
tech, tax free tech into Ukraine

576
00:32:06,510 --> 00:32:09,780
and then exploit their cheap
coders. Well, here

577
00:32:09,780 --> 00:32:13,050
Adam Curry: it is. Tech for
transformation, digital

578
00:32:13,050 --> 00:32:16,350
excellence and strengthening
partnerships. This session will

579
00:32:16,350 --> 00:32:19,680
showcase Ukraine's Ukraine's
digital transformation and

580
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,290
vision for the future, which
they already know, the

581
00:32:22,290 --> 00:32:25,230
resilience of the Ukrainian tech
sector and the opportunities for

582
00:32:25,230 --> 00:32:29,340
international partnerships with
this growing sector that you're

583
00:32:29,340 --> 00:32:33,000
absolutely right. How about this
one power of transformation,

584
00:32:33,180 --> 00:32:37,650
building back better in the
energy sector. Building back

585
00:32:37,650 --> 00:32:40,710
resilient, efficient,
decentralized and clean energy

586
00:32:40,710 --> 00:32:43,200
system will be crucial to
Ukraine's economic

587
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,170
revitalization and long term
growth. The Government of

588
00:32:46,170 --> 00:32:49,050
Ukraine will present the
recently adopted energy to 2050

589
00:32:49,050 --> 00:32:51,840
strategy panelists will discuss
how to best mobilize

590
00:32:51,870 --> 00:32:55,050
international support. That's
our tax money, and enable

591
00:32:55,050 --> 00:32:58,890
private investment grift to
support Ukraine's long term

592
00:32:58,890 --> 00:33:02,400
vision for recovery and
transformation. These efforts

593
00:33:02,430 --> 00:33:07,950
are divvying it all up right
under our noses. right under our

594
00:33:07,950 --> 00:33:14,370
noses has been going on since
2017. At least things take time.

595
00:33:14,430 --> 00:33:16,950
Well, they do. And they're
patient. But they're all They're

596
00:33:17,070 --> 00:33:20,340
all of them are there including
the big bankers, all the prime

597
00:33:20,340 --> 00:33:23,040
ministers, all the foreign
ministers, everybody's there.

598
00:33:23,970 --> 00:33:31,500
And I love this. If you go to
Twitter, or any social media

599
00:33:31,620 --> 00:33:33,750
site, but let's just take
Twitter, I'll do this. I'll do

600
00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:38,520
it live. And you type in as a
citizen arming Ukraine, those

601
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,490
are the words needed to type in,
I will read the first hits I get

602
00:33:41,490 --> 00:33:44,520
here. As a German citizen, I
want to say that arming Ukraine

603
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,490
is the single best use of
taxpayer money for decades. My

604
00:33:47,490 --> 00:33:50,550
only criticism is that the West
aren't sending enough fast

605
00:33:50,550 --> 00:33:54,420
enough. Next one. As a citizen
of Ukraine, I want to say that

606
00:33:54,420 --> 00:33:57,150
arming Ukraine is the single
best use of taxpayer money for

607
00:33:57,150 --> 00:33:59,970
decades. My only criticism is
that the West aren't sending

608
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enough fast enough. Next one, as
a Belgian citizen, I want to say

609
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,690
that arming Ukraine is the
single best use of taxpayer

610
00:34:06,690 --> 00:34:09,330
money for decades. My only
criticism is the West aren't

611
00:34:09,330 --> 00:34:13,920
sending enough fast enough. As a
Czech citizen, I want to I mean,

612
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:18,270
it goes on and on and on. As a
French citizen, same thing. It's

613
00:34:18,270 --> 00:34:23,430
all boilerplate, boilerplate,
all astroturf, all with Ukraine

614
00:34:23,430 --> 00:34:30,630
flags and and blue and yellow
hearts. In the in the profile as

615
00:34:30,630 --> 00:34:33,030
a European citizen, I want to
say that arming Ukraine is the

616
00:34:33,030 --> 00:34:35,370
single best use of taxpayer
money for decades.

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00:34:36,330 --> 00:34:38,820
John C Dvorak: Wow. Yeah, these
guys are very good. They need

618
00:34:38,820 --> 00:34:39,390
AI.

619
00:34:41,010 --> 00:34:45,690
Adam Curry: And, and some of
these have blue checks. So so

620
00:34:45,690 --> 00:34:52,890
much for your system, Elon, or
Elon? Musk. So and then this odd

621
00:34:52,890 --> 00:34:57,900
and interesting thing that
happened. Remember Oryx, that

622
00:34:57,900 --> 00:35:02,310
general former General Chris All
McChrystal was boasting about

623
00:35:03,630 --> 00:35:10,590
the Dutch Belgian open source
crowd sourcing that vaguely that

624
00:35:10,590 --> 00:35:18,960
we, you know, maybe I should
just play it crystal How do I

625
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:26,190
spell McChrystal? How come I
can't find what how do I spell

626
00:35:26,190 --> 00:35:26,850
McChrystal?

627
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:34,200
John C Dvorak: m as m is C H
there's a H in there. MCH MC is

628
00:35:34,230 --> 00:35:40,710
m i think is MC MC knows EMS
wasn't Mecca see see H try that

629
00:35:40,740 --> 00:35:45,990
Adam Curry: maybe it wasn't even
McChrystal EMPs MCC H Now I

630
00:35:45,990 --> 00:35:49,560
study there. Well, you got to
take my word for it. So he was

631
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,370
saying that, you know, all all
about the war in Ukraine, maybe

632
00:35:53,370 --> 00:35:59,130
if I do Stanley Stanley. I don't
know where this report was stand

633
00:35:59,130 --> 00:36:05,400
lay. And he was saying he was so
proud of, of this open source

634
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,540
reporting. It was kind of like a
new belling cat and was called

635
00:36:09,540 --> 00:36:12,510
Oryx and we went looking for the
for the website, and it's

636
00:36:12,510 --> 00:36:16,290
literally like a horrible domain
name that you can't remember.

637
00:36:17,490 --> 00:36:19,650
Well, they Alright, yeah, so
they also have a Twitter

638
00:36:19,650 --> 00:36:24,030
account. And they were
immediately followed. They

639
00:36:24,030 --> 00:36:26,430
hadn't posted much on the
Twitter account since for about

640
00:36:26,430 --> 00:36:29,610
a couple of years, but now they
reactivated it. And here is the

641
00:36:29,610 --> 00:36:33,420
post Dear all, I would hereby
like to inform you that I will

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00:36:33,420 --> 00:36:38,040
be ending orcs on October 1. I
originally started Oryx blog 10

643
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,460
years ago to cure my boredom.
Little did I know Oryx would

644
00:36:41,460 --> 00:36:44,700
escalate into the all consuming
project that is today. Today.

645
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,120
All of us work on the articles
and lists in our free time. It's

646
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,060
not our job, we don't get paid.
Though I hoped our work would

647
00:36:51,060 --> 00:36:54,480
one day lead to a job, no such
thing occurred, or it's just

648
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,840
doesn't make me happy anymore.
And continuing with it prevents

649
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:03,900
me from finding a happier place
in life. So now, I can see where

650
00:37:03,900 --> 00:37:07,770
an open source project will end.
But why don't you end it now?

651
00:37:07,830 --> 00:37:11,070
Why October? Why October 1. Wow.

652
00:37:11,670 --> 00:37:12,990
John C Dvorak: Great. Yes.

653
00:37:13,020 --> 00:37:15,990
Adam Curry: So yeah, I'm saying
walk. Yeah, something something

654
00:37:15,990 --> 00:37:19,860
may be happening in October.
Maybe Maybe that's where it all

655
00:37:19,860 --> 00:37:24,750
ends. They will or they order or
something or something happens

656
00:37:24,750 --> 00:37:26,490
and they don't get it or they
didn't they should clearly

657
00:37:26,490 --> 00:37:31,410
didn't get a renewal or someone
reneged. Someone didn't pay him.

658
00:37:31,410 --> 00:37:33,270
That's what they're there for.
They're saying we get no money

659
00:37:33,270 --> 00:37:37,350
for this. The contracts over in
October. I think that's what it

660
00:37:37,350 --> 00:37:41,430
is. Contract. They didn't renew.
Yeah. Especially when you hear

661
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that the Pentagon, again,
discovered another one of those

662
00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:47,220
nasty accounting errors.

663
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John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, they
just did keep. That's why they

664
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better audit. The Pentagon.
Yeah, six point they can't keep

665
00:37:57,630 --> 00:37:59,490
track of another 6 billion.

666
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,750
Adam Curry: It's amazing. I'm so
happy for Ukraine comes right in

667
00:38:03,750 --> 00:38:07,140
time now that Blinken just said
oh, we got another bill hanging

668
00:38:07,140 --> 00:38:11,790
around. He just He is big swing
and Dick over there. And in

669
00:38:11,790 --> 00:38:16,560
London air. I got some money.
Let me throw another bill out

670
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:21,660
there no problem. So that's what
I mean by distraction of the

671
00:38:21,660 --> 00:38:24,720
week and we're all looking at
submarines and we're all looking

672
00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:30,750
at lab grown chicken meat,
brood. brood chicken. The elites

673
00:38:30,750 --> 00:38:35,370
are literally dividing up the
spoils of war already. They know

674
00:38:35,370 --> 00:38:41,100
they know that on our dime.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I

675
00:38:41,100 --> 00:38:43,620
have more about that later. But
you seem to have a lot of

676
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,850
interesting topics too. So I
want you to jump in. Give us

677
00:38:47,850 --> 00:38:48,630
some goods.

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John C Dvorak: It's gone with
the flow.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, baby. Yeah.
That's why I'm handing over the

680
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:55,860
flow to you.

681
00:38:55,890 --> 00:38:58,530
John C Dvorak: So I'm going with
I got a bunch of Biden clips

682
00:38:58,530 --> 00:39:03,300
again. Sorry about that I used
to do to screwball kick talk

683
00:39:03,300 --> 00:39:03,810
clips.

684
00:39:05,310 --> 00:39:06,480
Adam Curry: life just gets
better.

685
00:39:07,770 --> 00:39:11,340
John C Dvorak: But I do have a
kind of a three parter on

686
00:39:11,340 --> 00:39:16,470
digital currency. They brought
an expert on Oh, and I think

687
00:39:16,470 --> 00:39:21,120
there's NTD and I thought it
would be worth listening to

688
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,330
these three clips. Because
there's they're all They're

689
00:39:24,330 --> 00:39:27,810
educational or not exciting, but
they bring us at least because

690
00:39:27,810 --> 00:39:29,310
you keep bringing it up.

691
00:39:29,339 --> 00:39:31,649
Adam Curry: I do. Yes. I do.
Keep bringing it up. I thought

692
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John C Dvorak: we'd at least get
some somebody that knew they

693
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,250
were talking about

694
00:39:35,580 --> 00:39:38,640
Adam Curry: like me. So thanks.

695
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,700
John C Dvorak: No, there's
either pretty much on the same

696
00:39:41,730 --> 00:39:44,820
wavelength but he's this guy's a
little different. But let's

697
00:39:44,820 --> 00:39:47,760
start with the with the intro,
which is just a short intro to

698
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,830
the other two clips. The
International

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00:39:49,830 --> 00:39:52,290
Unknown: Monetary Fund is
working on a platform for

700
00:39:52,290 --> 00:39:56,190
central bank digital currencies.
The managing director argues

701
00:39:56,190 --> 00:39:58,830
that the digital currencies
shouldn't be fragmented by

702
00:39:58,830 --> 00:40:02,700
nation What are the concerns
with the IMF pushing for digital

703
00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:06,390
currency and to the business as
Don moss speaks to an expert in

704
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this field

705
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,650
Adam Curry: now before you move
into your clips, interestingly

706
00:40:10,650 --> 00:40:15,480
enough, I got the 36 second clip
from the IMF director, she was

707
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not arguing she was stating a
fact. And I'll play that now

708
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just for for color if we

709
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Unknown: are to be successful.
CB DCS could not be fragmented

710
00:40:28,020 --> 00:40:34,020
national propositions. To have
transactions more efficient and

711
00:40:34,020 --> 00:40:38,400
fairer, we need systems that
connect countries. In other

712
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:43,440
words, we need interoperability.
And for this reason that the IMF

713
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:48,390
we are working hard on the
concept of a global cbdc

714
00:40:48,420 --> 00:40:54,330
platform, to trade and to manage
risks and my colleague, to be as

715
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,120
Adrian will talk more about it
later.

716
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,570
Adam Curry: Yeah. So
interoperability of the central

717
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bank, digital currencies. That's
what the IMF is talking about.

718
00:41:03,510 --> 00:41:03,780
Yeah.

719
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John C Dvorak: My comment is
that is this.

720
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Adam Curry: I love it. I love
that you got some some experts

721
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in on this.

722
00:41:15,270 --> 00:41:18,060
John C Dvorak: Okay, so let's
talk about this. And the stuff

723
00:41:18,060 --> 00:41:21,030
that we're trying to do with
this with this guy they bring in

724
00:41:21,030 --> 00:41:25,470
the guy may not be any good, but
he seems like he sounds like he

725
00:41:25,770 --> 00:41:27,750
has has a handle on it.

726
00:41:28,350 --> 00:41:31,200
Unknown: And here with me as
Thomas Hogan, senior research

727
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,380
faculty at the American
Institute for Economic Research,

728
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,640
so the International Monetary
Fund wants a platform for its

729
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,630
central bank digital currencies.
Now, before we get into the pros

730
00:41:42,630 --> 00:41:45,450
and cons, I just want you to
explain to me, what does it what

731
00:41:45,450 --> 00:41:49,350
does it mean, exactly, to have a
global cbdc? Platform?

732
00:41:49,589 --> 00:41:51,779
Yeah, that's right. It's a good
question. Because I think this

733
00:41:51,779 --> 00:41:54,779
has been kind of misreported in
some of the articles that I've

734
00:41:54,779 --> 00:41:58,859
seen online because of the lack
of clarity about what we mean by

735
00:41:58,859 --> 00:42:02,219
platform. So sometimes, when we
talk about Central Bank, digital

736
00:42:02,219 --> 00:42:06,329
currency, we mean, the the
platform is the currency itself.

737
00:42:06,509 --> 00:42:09,539
Like, for example, if the US
were to introduce a cbdc, we

738
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might call that the platform or
in Europe, if they're doing one,

739
00:42:12,359 --> 00:42:16,739
maybe that cbdc is the platform.
But that's not really what we

740
00:42:16,739 --> 00:42:20,249
mean here, we mean, a place
where people could trade

741
00:42:20,249 --> 00:42:24,179
different currencies, different
CBDCs. So for example, I think

742
00:42:24,179 --> 00:42:26,819
we can make a distinction, if
I'm an American traveling in

743
00:42:26,819 --> 00:42:30,239
Europe, and there are some
stores that maybe accept US

744
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:34,289
dollars, maybe I go into a store
and I say, Hey, do you accept

745
00:42:34,289 --> 00:42:37,769
dollars or euros? That's a
question of the currency itself,

746
00:42:37,769 --> 00:42:40,949
not a question of the platform.
If they say they accept only

747
00:42:40,949 --> 00:42:44,579
euros, then I have to say, Okay,
well, do you take a Visa card?

748
00:42:44,579 --> 00:42:47,879
You know, or can I transfer from
my my debit card, where my bank

749
00:42:47,879 --> 00:42:51,209
is going to switch from dollars
into Euros? Or do I personally

750
00:42:51,209 --> 00:42:53,879
need to go to a bank and trade
physical dollars for physical

751
00:42:53,879 --> 00:42:56,939
euros? You know, that question
of how to get from one currency

752
00:42:56,969 --> 00:42:59,639
into the other is really what
they're talking about for the

753
00:42:59,639 --> 00:43:03,149
platform here. The IMF itself is
not going to launch central bank

754
00:43:03,149 --> 00:43:05,849
digital currency, just help
coordinate trade of different

755
00:43:05,849 --> 00:43:06,809
types of currencies.

756
00:43:07,020 --> 00:43:08,520
Adam Curry: Yeah, I think I
agree with what he's saying.

757
00:43:08,550 --> 00:43:13,890
That's I didn't think IMF was
actually was the clip itself had

758
00:43:13,890 --> 00:43:18,030
the title. IMF says global
currency was like, No, that's

759
00:43:18,030 --> 00:43:21,750
not what she said. Yeah, my
trading platform. Okay. Yeah,

760
00:43:21,750 --> 00:43:22,800
that makes sense.

761
00:43:23,069 --> 00:43:26,309
John C Dvorak: Just to clarify
it, you know, as it kind of

762
00:43:26,339 --> 00:43:29,699
clarified, okay, so let's go to
part three, we'll be done.

763
00:43:30,089 --> 00:43:33,959
Unknown: So what concerns comes
with is if there is any, yeah,

764
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so

765
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,400
I am not concerned about the
platform itself. Like I said, I

766
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,770
don't think the IMF is really
going to have a lot of control

767
00:43:40,770 --> 00:43:45,510
over that. And so they probably,
you know, won't have much

768
00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:49,260
influence other than promoting
CBDCs. And that's really the

769
00:43:49,260 --> 00:43:51,720
thing that I'm a little bit more
concerned about is that, you

770
00:43:51,720 --> 00:43:55,590
know, the IMF is trying to
encourage countries to use CBDCs

771
00:43:55,860 --> 00:43:58,770
in the United States or a bigger
country when we might not worry

772
00:43:58,770 --> 00:44:01,380
about the government misusing
that. I mean, we should worry a

773
00:44:01,380 --> 00:44:04,860
little bit in the United States,
but much more of a concern in

774
00:44:04,950 --> 00:44:08,430
China, where the government is
using it to monitor all of their

775
00:44:08,430 --> 00:44:11,250
citizens. So for a lot of the
countries that are trying to get

776
00:44:11,250 --> 00:44:14,550
better capabilities, the IMF is
going to potentially be

777
00:44:14,730 --> 00:44:17,520
equipping them with ways to
monitor their citizens and

778
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,160
control their citizens. And so
I'm a little bit worried about

779
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:20,520
that.

780
00:44:20,970 --> 00:44:24,690
So you said in the US, we should
still be a little bit worried

781
00:44:24,690 --> 00:44:27,120
about cbdc. Can you expand on
that?

782
00:44:27,720 --> 00:44:31,500
Yeah, so the United States is
considering doing some kind of

783
00:44:31,500 --> 00:44:33,690
central bank digital currency,
we haven't really committed to

784
00:44:33,690 --> 00:44:36,150
anything. The US Federal
Reserve, the Central Bank of the

785
00:44:36,150 --> 00:44:39,180
United States is studying how
they might implement a central

786
00:44:39,180 --> 00:44:43,770
bank digital currency. But so
far, they they are not planning

787
00:44:43,770 --> 00:44:48,630
to do one that would be directly
offered to us citizens. And so

788
00:44:48,630 --> 00:44:50,790
that's a really important
distinction that almost all the

789
00:44:50,790 --> 00:44:54,660
countries the plan is to have
individual citizens use it just

790
00:44:54,660 --> 00:44:57,330
like they use regular currency.
But in the United States, the

791
00:44:57,330 --> 00:44:59,850
Federal Reserve has said they
actually don't think that they

792
00:44:59,850 --> 00:45:03,570
have Have the ability legally to
do that. All they could legally

793
00:45:03,570 --> 00:45:06,660
do right now, as far as they're
currently saying is offered to

794
00:45:06,660 --> 00:45:10,440
banks, which would then offer
some kind of digital currency to

795
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,720
the citizens, which is
essentially what they do. Now,

796
00:45:12,720 --> 00:45:16,020
you know, the Fed already has a
digital system for for

797
00:45:16,020 --> 00:45:18,960
coordinating bank payments and
having banks deposit money at

798
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,260
the Fed, making payments with
the Fed. And so having a central

799
00:45:22,260 --> 00:45:24,510
bank, digital currency that's
only offered to the banking

800
00:45:24,510 --> 00:45:28,740
system really wouldn't be much
different than we have now. But

801
00:45:28,740 --> 00:45:31,830
there is some possibility that
they might change their policy

802
00:45:31,830 --> 00:45:35,190
or that Congress might authorize
them to offer a central bank

803
00:45:35,190 --> 00:45:38,370
digital currency directly to the
public. And if that happens,

804
00:45:38,370 --> 00:45:40,410
then that'll be a lot different.
And I think we'll need to worry

805
00:45:40,410 --> 00:45:41,370
about it a little bit more.

806
00:45:41,850 --> 00:45:44,700
Adam Curry: I agree. I agree
that the Federal Reserve doesn't

807
00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:47,910
have that can't do that legally,
what they are and Chris, you

808
00:45:47,910 --> 00:45:50,430
mentioned in there, well, they
will Congress that I guess

809
00:45:50,430 --> 00:45:52,740
Congress could change that they
have the right of

810
00:45:53,100 --> 00:45:54,300
John C Dvorak: Congress hates
us.

811
00:45:56,790 --> 00:46:00,060
Adam Curry: What the Fed is
launching next month is fed now.

812
00:46:00,750 --> 00:46:03,930
And that's their that's so they
will be the direct clearing

813
00:46:03,930 --> 00:46:07,020
house, it will go initially
through bank so you will get

814
00:46:07,020 --> 00:46:11,520
your fed now account from your
bank. But you can pay I can pay

815
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,240
you directly. And we'll go
through the Fed now network and

816
00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:20,790
the transaction costs will be
four cents per transaction no

817
00:46:20,790 --> 00:46:24,240
matter what size it is, which is
it's kind of going to screw up

818
00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:30,060
other systems. And we'll see.
We'll see where that goes. This

819
00:46:30,060 --> 00:46:35,250
is interesting in the backdrop
of the SEC, basically clearing

820
00:46:35,250 --> 00:46:38,910
out all shit coins, all these
man what they call an

821
00:46:39,570 --> 00:46:43,860
unregistered securities, which I
agree with they are and then all

822
00:46:43,860 --> 00:46:48,990
of a sudden, Blackrock last week
of this past week, registering

823
00:46:48,990 --> 00:46:55,200
for a Bitcoin ETF. And this
magical exchange appears backed

824
00:46:55,200 --> 00:47:00,990
by the Deutsche Bank and other
Wall Street banks called edX and

825
00:47:01,020 --> 00:47:04,860
they're going to be an exchange.
So the in the Bitcoin, you know,

826
00:47:04,890 --> 00:47:08,370
spiked like 10% on all this
news. I don't know there's some

827
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,830
it feels like there's something
going on, especially when Black

828
00:47:10,830 --> 00:47:12,870
Rock enters it. See,

829
00:47:13,740 --> 00:47:15,240
John C Dvorak: I don't know bad
actors.

830
00:47:15,750 --> 00:47:18,300
Adam Curry: I don't think Black
Rock is a good actor, for sure.

831
00:47:18,900 --> 00:47:21,780
For sure, we'll see. But yeah,
you don't need it to be a

832
00:47:21,780 --> 00:47:24,600
central bank digital currency,
if you're doing the transfer and

833
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:30,510
the Fed. Now, their own material
says this is handy. Because if

834
00:47:30,510 --> 00:47:35,190
we have another COVID Like
event, then we don't have to

835
00:47:35,190 --> 00:47:38,340
wait for those pesky checks.
We'll just put it right into

836
00:47:38,340 --> 00:47:43,680
your account. So it's the same
thing. And now that there's no

837
00:47:43,770 --> 00:47:50,010
ceiling on the debt we're primed
we need another

838
00:47:51,090 --> 00:47:53,460
John C Dvorak: didn't get pesky
checks. They got it straight

839
00:47:53,460 --> 00:47:54,480
into their account.

840
00:47:55,950 --> 00:47:59,790
Adam Curry: That's just telling
what they say. They're saying

841
00:48:00,570 --> 00:48:03,930
that's it. That's their
marketing is if we ever need to

842
00:48:03,930 --> 00:48:06,690
send out checks again then you
won't have to do that at all.

843
00:48:06,690 --> 00:48:09,180
You just go straight into your
fed now account through your

844
00:48:09,180 --> 00:48:15,900
bank. So I thought a lot of
those checks went I thought a

845
00:48:15,900 --> 00:48:17,790
lot of the money went through
checks. I don't know

846
00:48:17,790 --> 00:48:20,520
John C Dvorak: anyone who got a
check. Hey guys straight into

847
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:21,090
her account.

848
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,000
Adam Curry: She did. Christina
got one in Europe, mind you that

849
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:28,830
was in she's in Europe, and but
the stepdaughters got it got

850
00:48:28,830 --> 00:48:30,060
checks. They didn't. They
didn't.

851
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,520
John C Dvorak: I don't know
anyone who got a check out here.

852
00:48:34,050 --> 00:48:37,320
Adam Curry: Some trolls are
saying they got checks. Some

853
00:48:37,350 --> 00:48:40,860
Some say they got to I didn't
get no check. I get no check.

854
00:48:42,030 --> 00:48:43,980
Oh, I do Biden because then I
want to play some

855
00:48:43,980 --> 00:48:45,360
counterprogramming to Biden.

856
00:48:47,460 --> 00:48:49,530
John C Dvorak: Here's Biden in
California. This was like a

857
00:48:49,530 --> 00:48:50,550
couple days ago.

858
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,210
Unknown: And I've toured many
sites across the country.

859
00:48:54,510 --> 00:48:58,380
They're clearly show climate
changes is a genuine x is the

860
00:48:58,380 --> 00:49:02,070
existential threat to humanity,
the existential threat to

861
00:49:02,070 --> 00:49:05,670
humanity and maybe most
important, I've committed that

862
00:49:05,670 --> 00:49:12,300
by 2020. We will have conserved
30% Of all the lands and waters

863
00:49:12,300 --> 00:49:14,730
the United States has
jurisdiction over and

864
00:49:14,730 --> 00:49:18,360
simultaneously reduce emissions
to blunt climate impacts.

865
00:49:18,420 --> 00:49:20,460
Adam Curry: Did he say 2020?
Yeah.

866
00:49:22,860 --> 00:49:25,140
John C Dvorak: Poor guy 2020
We're gonna have this these

867
00:49:25,140 --> 00:49:25,680
changes

868
00:49:25,710 --> 00:49:30,120
Adam Curry: going back in time.
Okay, great. Love it.

869
00:49:31,770 --> 00:49:33,960
John C Dvorak: Now I got Biden
misspelled here in this clip

870
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,900
this bite does the Biden ramble.
It has a bunch of different

871
00:49:36,900 --> 00:49:37,590
things in it

872
00:49:37,740 --> 00:49:40,440
Unknown: and a cheer for
Missouri for each year for

873
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:48,810
Muslim athletes like Kareem
Abdul Jabbar I know I'm gonna

874
00:49:48,810 --> 00:49:53,550
zip mispronouncing Congress Omar
word, Congresswoman Omar. There

875
00:49:53,550 --> 00:49:56,430
you go. God love you. Another
Muslim. I'm not supposed to get

876
00:49:56,430 --> 00:50:01,680
in trouble for saying this
project. Beautiful. Congressman,

877
00:50:02,100 --> 00:50:04,980
where's Where's where's the
congressman? There you are.

878
00:50:04,980 --> 00:50:11,790
Okay, so do you want a job man?
I appoint all those federal

879
00:50:11,790 --> 00:50:14,880
judges but you know, thank you
for serving. I'm not kidding.

880
00:50:16,740 --> 00:50:22,680
You want to come and make a
speech? Hush up, boy.

881
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,760
Adam Curry: Whoa, who do you say
that to? Some black guy a black

882
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:33,990
guy? No, he did not did not hush
up boy. Wow, was this was this

883
00:50:33,990 --> 00:50:38,010
one of these things where he was
talking and called she a

884
00:50:38,010 --> 00:50:38,790
dictator?

885
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,110
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I don't
have that clip I wish well

886
00:50:43,110 --> 00:50:43,380
here's

887
00:50:43,380 --> 00:50:44,700
Adam Curry: I have the quick

888
00:50:44,730 --> 00:50:46,740
Unknown: tonight a new
Flashpoint between the US and

889
00:50:46,740 --> 00:50:50,160
China after President Biden
called China's President Xi a

890
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:54,420
dictator at a fundraising event.
China blasting the comments as

891
00:50:54,420 --> 00:50:56,250
absurd and irresponsible.

892
00:50:56,700 --> 00:51:01,770
Adam Curry: Yeah, call him a
dictator. Hmm, not good. Not

893
00:51:01,770 --> 00:51:02,340
good.

894
00:51:03,810 --> 00:51:06,630
John C Dvorak: That's what I got
here is I don't know if this is

895
00:51:06,630 --> 00:51:09,390
the same as the California clip.
But is Biden in San Francisco.

896
00:51:09,540 --> 00:51:12,060
Unknown: President Biden land in
Silicon Valley? Yes.

897
00:51:12,750 --> 00:51:15,750
John C Dvorak: This is just a
rundown. Okay, President Mazal

898
00:51:15,750 --> 00:51:16,110
play it.

899
00:51:16,170 --> 00:51:19,470
Unknown: President Biden landed
in Silicon Valley yesterday and

900
00:51:19,470 --> 00:51:23,250
announced a $600 million
national plan for climate

901
00:51:23,250 --> 00:51:27,240
issues. Today. He met with tech
executives and people in the

902
00:51:27,240 --> 00:51:31,470
industry to discuss artificial
intelligence including how to

903
00:51:31,470 --> 00:51:34,500
seize its opportunity and manage
its risks.

904
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,710
My administration is committed
as committed to safeguarding

905
00:51:37,710 --> 00:51:41,700
Americans rights and safety from
protecting privacy to addressing

906
00:51:41,700 --> 00:51:45,810
bias and disinformation to
making sure AI systems are safe

907
00:51:46,140 --> 00:51:48,030
before they are released. Yeah,

908
00:51:48,030 --> 00:51:52,290
okay as the President Biden was
in San Francisco for his 2024

909
00:51:52,290 --> 00:51:55,860
presidential campaign, he's also
visiting several locations in

910
00:51:55,860 --> 00:51:59,460
the North Bay, including the
cities of Canfield and Larkspur,

911
00:51:59,850 --> 00:52:03,360
a White House official said
Biden summit include experts

912
00:52:03,390 --> 00:52:07,980
known for being outspoken on the
impact of AI on jobs, children,

913
00:52:08,130 --> 00:52:12,270
bias and prejudice and the risks
posed by AI, if it isn't

914
00:52:12,270 --> 00:52:16,350
properly regulated, and added
that quote, US government

915
00:52:16,350 --> 00:52:20,010
agencies have ramped up their
authorities to protect Americans

916
00:52:20,010 --> 00:52:23,640
from the risks posed by AI,
including fraud and

917
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:24,570
discrimination,

918
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:29,640
as I've said before, where we'll
see more technological change in

919
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,540
the next 10 years than we've
seen in the last 50 years. And

920
00:52:33,540 --> 00:52:34,740
maybe beyond that,

921
00:52:35,250 --> 00:52:38,940
according to the President's
schedule. Biden has a campaign

922
00:52:38,940 --> 00:52:40,650
reception on Tuesday evening,

923
00:52:40,980 --> 00:52:45,840
Adam Curry: I find this very
interesting, this rhetoric about

924
00:52:45,870 --> 00:52:50,190
AI and, and the government
agencies are ramping up to

925
00:52:50,190 --> 00:52:53,790
protect Silicon Valley, no
doubt. But also, I think this

926
00:52:53,820 --> 00:52:57,690
Altman character, Sam Altman, I
think he's being positioned to

927
00:52:57,690 --> 00:53:01,290
be the new Elon Musk. He's got a
lot of other things go on. He's

928
00:53:01,290 --> 00:53:05,550
got like, fusion energy
projects, and he's doing all

929
00:53:05,550 --> 00:53:08,250
these other things. You watch
this guy is going to be the new,

930
00:53:08,490 --> 00:53:12,210
the new tech hero, as Elon

931
00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:13,950
John C Dvorak: he doesn't have
the personality for it. I'll

932
00:53:13,950 --> 00:53:15,720
just say flat out

933
00:53:15,750 --> 00:53:21,480
Adam Curry: and Elon Musk does.
Yeah. No, Altman's Okay. Well,

934
00:53:21,540 --> 00:53:26,580
it may fail, but I think they're
going to try this. Yeah. And you

935
00:53:26,580 --> 00:53:27,120
know, and

936
00:53:28,740 --> 00:53:29,700
Unknown: this, this,

937
00:53:30,090 --> 00:53:32,040
John C Dvorak: like, just like
Zuckerberg, he's he's just an

938
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,890
app personality for anything
other than what he's doing.

939
00:53:36,900 --> 00:53:39,360
Adam Curry: So RF, the number of

940
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,420
John C Dvorak: people in tech
over the years and watching it

941
00:53:42,420 --> 00:53:47,310
from the get go, I will say
there's been so few, I mean, and

942
00:53:47,310 --> 00:53:51,060
when they crop up, they're just
accolades go their way.

943
00:53:51,060 --> 00:53:54,180
Everything goes their way me I
can go back to the days of

944
00:53:54,300 --> 00:53:59,460
people like Chuck Peddle. Oh,
was Chuck Peddle Chuck pills ago

945
00:53:59,490 --> 00:54:02,730
designed to 6502 chip, the
original chip used in the Apple

946
00:54:02,730 --> 00:54:07,080
two computer and he was he was a
hell of a personality. You had

947
00:54:07,230 --> 00:54:10,770
Steve Jobs to some extent
Wozniak has a personality

948
00:54:10,830 --> 00:54:13,590
Adam Curry: bill. Gates had a
personality whether you like it

949
00:54:13,590 --> 00:54:14,070
or not.

950
00:54:15,030 --> 00:54:19,470
John C Dvorak: Bill Gates does
have a personality. And Ballmer

951
00:54:19,470 --> 00:54:21,660
has a personality even though it
would nobody liked his

952
00:54:21,660 --> 00:54:22,410
personality.

953
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:23,700
Adam Curry: All developers loved
him.

954
00:54:27,150 --> 00:54:31,890
John C Dvorak: And Felipe Khan
was a suit. Yeah, remember? I

955
00:54:31,890 --> 00:54:35,880
mean, he's gonna build kind of a
couple of empires out of

956
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:40,830
nothing. And he was in the
public eye but these guys could

957
00:54:40,830 --> 00:54:43,770
speak they could do public
speaking and they could do all

958
00:54:43,770 --> 00:54:46,650
these things. They weren't just
you know, reticent. No, jet. I

959
00:54:46,650 --> 00:54:47,400
want to talk.

960
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,120
Adam Curry: Now. We'll see Sam
Altman talks. He's he goes on

961
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,480
all the podcasts and, and he
went and did his thing before

962
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,880
Congress. He was it was
interesting. It was full of

963
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,000
crap, but I know he's just all
I'm seeing is a lot of

964
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,120
businesses that have government
involvement and lying. Okay?

965
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,440
Just keep your eye on them. So
RFK Jr did a speech in New

966
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:11,760
Hampshire. And I want to play a
couple clips from it, because

967
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,810
he's taking a totally different
approach to running for

968
00:55:15,810 --> 00:55:20,670
president. And of course, he is
blocked entirely whenever anyone

969
00:55:20,670 --> 00:55:23,610
who's blocked by the mainstream
is always interesting to us.

970
00:55:24,750 --> 00:55:30,870
After the the whole Rogan
challenge he, missy, you wonder

971
00:55:30,900 --> 00:55:35,400
what is the headline? I had Los
Angeles Times Robert F. Kennedy

972
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:39,000
and the lies of the anti vaxxers
know. So that's kind of how

973
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,170
they're positioning

974
00:55:40,740 --> 00:55:42,540
John C Dvorak: or if can make a
huge mistake.

975
00:55:43,260 --> 00:55:47,220
Adam Curry: Well, if he could
get the you know what Trump did,

976
00:55:47,220 --> 00:55:51,090
right? Is he because of all the
stuff he did? They gave him all

977
00:55:51,090 --> 00:55:53,910
this attention, then I don't
think the mainstream will do

978
00:55:53,910 --> 00:55:57,360
that for RFK. But RFK has
already said, Jr. has already

979
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:01,770
said, no, no, this election will
be one on podcast which I

980
00:56:01,830 --> 00:56:06,300
John C Dvorak: I'm of the
opinion that in 2016 Even though

981
00:56:06,300 --> 00:56:09,540
their podcast and that I don't
think the media scene was that

982
00:56:09,540 --> 00:56:14,460
different? I kind of agree with
him. I think it to me because of

983
00:56:14,460 --> 00:56:19,080
after Trump and and a few years
of Biden, the mainstream media

984
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:23,850
has, people are just looking
askance at it a lot more than

985
00:56:23,850 --> 00:56:27,690
they did in 2016. And 2016. They
did to it a little bit, but not

986
00:56:27,690 --> 00:56:32,100
like this, that people just
don't believe these. Yes. Media

987
00:56:32,100 --> 00:56:35,130
is in a downward spiral.

988
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,740
Adam Curry: Yeah. And with
almost no ratings and be no

989
00:56:37,740 --> 00:56:41,880
one's watching it. So I think
the if, if if true, then his

990
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,700
breakthrough was probably Rogan,
although that also brings up all

991
00:56:44,700 --> 00:56:47,790
these, you know, he's
incredible. He's an anti Vaxxer,

992
00:56:47,790 --> 00:56:53,220
even his family hates him, oh,
pay attention. So he does what I

993
00:56:53,220 --> 00:56:56,700
think is a pretty important
speech. And for a couple of

994
00:56:56,700 --> 00:57:00,390
reasons. One, his voice is much
better. I think we are

995
00:57:00,390 --> 00:57:04,410
determined years ago, when he
starts talking a lot than his

996
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:10,350
affliction gets better. And he's
also invoking John F. Kennedy,

997
00:57:10,770 --> 00:57:16,170
and a lot and of the days almost
like that, not the Camelot part,

998
00:57:16,170 --> 00:57:20,910
but the peace part. And so he
had this, it was in look at it

999
00:57:20,910 --> 00:57:25,230
in the show notes about 45
minutes. And he does this entire

1000
00:57:25,230 --> 00:57:29,400
spiel about the wages of war.
And he says, what's really

1001
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:34,260
happening is if you have war
outside your home all the time,

1002
00:57:34,620 --> 00:57:38,430
then that is going to bring war
inside your home and literally

1003
00:57:38,430 --> 00:57:41,880
inside your home. And that was
that was pretty

1004
00:57:42,180 --> 00:57:44,880
John C Dvorak: interesting. I
will make a quick comment here

1005
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:50,100
on this. Generally speaking,
except, you know, during these

1006
00:57:50,130 --> 00:57:54,390
moments of huge amounts of
propaganda American the American

1007
00:57:54,390 --> 00:57:59,160
public is anti war. Yes. And
that's how Obama got elected.

1008
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:05,550
The Iraqi war was going on and
Obama ran in 20 Whatever 2008 I

1009
00:58:05,550 --> 00:58:10,710
guess Yeah. On a peace platform,
you can take it to the bank.

1010
00:58:10,740 --> 00:58:15,690
Yeah. If he was gonna get us out
of the Iraqi war or he was gonna

1011
00:58:15,690 --> 00:58:20,310
get on him obey he was gonna do
this was gonna do as a total

1012
00:58:20,310 --> 00:58:24,150
peace platform, and the
Democrats really are the

1013
00:58:24,150 --> 00:58:27,870
peaceniks, generally speaking,
it's only recently that we've

1014
00:58:27,870 --> 00:58:31,380
had this kind of crossover. And
then they still have the

1015
00:58:31,380 --> 00:58:35,220
peacenik bug. The fact that the
Democrats are the biggest war

1016
00:58:35,220 --> 00:58:41,070
mongers I've ever seen, of late,
is kind of a surprise. And I

1017
00:58:41,070 --> 00:58:44,460
think Kennedy can bring him back
to the norm or mount normalcy.

1018
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,850
Adam Curry: Well, there's not
going to be any debates. So

1019
00:58:47,850 --> 00:58:51,930
there'll be no exposure. Who
knows how corrupt the actual

1020
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,720
voting systems are? There's a
lot of disbelief and those

1021
00:58:54,750 --> 00:58:58,410
across the board, I mean, if you
look at any poll, right or left

1022
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:02,040
John C Dvorak: driving and Gavin
Newsom is also the wildcard

1023
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:02,310
here,

1024
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,860
Adam Curry: though, and we'll
leave him there but this Kennedy

1025
00:59:04,860 --> 00:59:09,840
cat, he's got a rap that is if
if the Kennedy cat if people

1026
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,590
hear him, Hey, man, you know,
he's from like, the Kennedy cat

1027
00:59:13,590 --> 00:59:18,060
era, man, you know what I'm
saying, bro? They get a dig,

1028
00:59:18,060 --> 00:59:22,500
man, I dig the Kennedy cap. So
he so the whole setup is this

1029
00:59:22,500 --> 00:59:25,290
wages of war. And he talks
about, you know, if you're, if

1030
00:59:25,290 --> 00:59:28,290
you're warring with, you know,
if you think everyone's evil,

1031
00:59:28,290 --> 00:59:30,780
and you're gonna have that
insight, you're gonna bring that

1032
00:59:30,780 --> 00:59:34,050
home, right into your actual
very home, you will have this

1033
00:59:34,050 --> 00:59:36,720
kind of division that so I'll
play a clip that kind of is the

1034
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:40,380
end of that. schpeel. And the
question now is, are we willing

1035
00:59:40,380 --> 00:59:45,000
to do anything like that today?
Or are we remained stuck in a

1036
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,600
self righteous story in which
America is categorically good?

1037
00:59:49,230 --> 00:59:53,850
At our poll, opponents are
irredeemably evil. If we remain

1038
00:59:53,850 --> 00:59:57,810
stuck there, so will every other
nation it's not only America

1039
00:59:57,810 --> 01:00:00,990
that's falling and falling into
this employee. Stick good guy,

1040
01:00:00,990 --> 01:00:05,640
bad guy thinking. That's the
example we've set for everybody

1041
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,940
in the world, a wonder it's been
replicated everywhere between

1042
01:00:08,940 --> 01:00:13,710
Israel and Iran between India
and Pakistan, between Shia and

1043
01:00:13,710 --> 01:00:17,880
Sunni between Jew and Arab,
between Hindus and Muslims left

1044
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:22,890
and right, between pro life and
pro choice between facts and

1045
01:00:22,890 --> 01:00:28,020
anti facts, this tribalistic us
versus them thinking is tearing

1046
01:00:28,050 --> 01:00:37,680
us apart. And it's a rousing
round of applause. I think was

1047
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:42,420
at a school, the university so
people like whatever I heard,

1048
01:00:42,420 --> 01:00:44,940
there was like people, yeah,
wait a minute that you've seen

1049
01:00:44,940 --> 01:00:48,540
some good there. So now he
invokes and gives us a bit of a

1050
01:00:48,540 --> 01:00:52,110
history lesson about his uncle,
he talked more about his uncle

1051
01:00:52,110 --> 01:00:57,750
John F. Kennedy than his dad,
Robert F. Kennedy. And about JFK

1052
01:00:57,750 --> 01:01:03,330
being an anti war president. And
it's tearing apart our country

1053
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:08,430
and it's tearing apart the
world. So this, these are the

1054
01:01:08,430 --> 01:01:14,190
wages of war. When we take the
first step toward peace, we will

1055
01:01:14,190 --> 01:01:18,300
become once again a true world
leader, a moral leader, a moral

1056
01:01:18,300 --> 01:01:22,470
authority. And our example, it
doesn't take much. It's just the

1057
01:01:22,470 --> 01:01:25,950
first step. And people will
start looking at America

1058
01:01:25,950 --> 01:01:29,100
differently the way they did
when my uncle was president. My

1059
01:01:29,100 --> 01:01:31,380
uncle, I pointed this out.

1060
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:34,980
Unknown: In my announcement
speech, my uncle was so

1061
01:01:34,980 --> 01:01:38,160
determined. He told us that one
of his best friends Brent, and

1062
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:42,240
Bradley said to him, What do you
want on your as your epithet on

1063
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:46,470
your gravestone and he said, he
kept the peace, he said, and

1064
01:01:46,500 --> 01:01:51,300
Bradley asked him to explain
that he said, the primary job of

1065
01:01:51,300 --> 01:01:55,290
an American president is to keep
the country out of war, as what

1066
01:01:55,290 --> 01:01:56,310
he said and during

1067
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:00,780
Adam Curry: not happened
recently.

1068
01:02:02,580 --> 01:02:06,150
Unknown: During his time in the
White House, he was surrounded

1069
01:02:06,150 --> 01:02:09,450
by military talk hawks and his
intelligence apparatus, his

1070
01:02:09,450 --> 01:02:15,150
military brass, wanted it who
were constantly exhorting him to

1071
01:02:15,150 --> 01:02:22,230
go to war in Laos, in Berlin, in
Cuba, in Vietnam, and he'd never

1072
01:02:22,230 --> 01:02:25,680
sent a single combat troop
abroad during his term in

1073
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:31,230
office. He ultimately wanted to
send 250,000 combat troops to

1074
01:02:31,230 --> 01:02:34,860
Vietnam, he ended up sending
16,000 advisors who are not

1075
01:02:34,860 --> 01:02:37,170
under the rules of engagement
allowed to participate in

1076
01:02:37,170 --> 01:02:42,030
combat. That's fewer people,
fewer men. And he sent James

1077
01:02:42,030 --> 01:02:45,420
Meredith one black man until Ole
Miss University of Mississippi

1078
01:02:45,420 --> 01:02:50,670
in Jackson. Okay, now I'd like
to say to that advisors, we know

1079
01:02:50,670 --> 01:02:54,780
what that is. That's bullcrap.
military advisors are they're

1080
01:02:54,780 --> 01:02:59,070
saying, All right, now you point
it there. Okay. And you pull the

1081
01:02:59,070 --> 01:03:04,500
trigger here. So, the JFK got
duped, but I guess he was an

1082
01:03:04,500 --> 01:03:09,450
anti war president. And I'll
give Trump that truth to Trump

1083
01:03:09,690 --> 01:03:13,080
didn't didn't get us into war.
He was going to pull us out

1084
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:16,620
didn't but he at least, you
know, he went and talked to Kim

1085
01:03:16,620 --> 01:03:21,450
Jong Hoon. He went and talked to
Putin. Crazy. He's insane. He

1086
01:03:21,450 --> 01:03:27,900
must be in cahoots with him to
now RFK Putin. Now RFK gives us

1087
01:03:27,930 --> 01:03:32,100
a history and a timeline. That
is important to remember and is

1088
01:03:32,100 --> 01:03:37,050
probably the reason why Ron Paul
says you know, that's when when

1089
01:03:37,050 --> 01:03:41,340
we'd lost the country was with
the killing of JFK. And this is

1090
01:03:41,490 --> 01:03:44,340
this goes back to one of our
favorite clips, he won't he'll

1091
01:03:44,370 --> 01:03:46,980
he'll talk about the clip, but
also about an important

1092
01:03:46,980 --> 01:03:51,120
presidential order a month
before he died in October of

1093
01:03:51,330 --> 01:03:58,080
1963. He heard that a that a
Greenbrae had died in Vietnam,

1094
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:01,350
and he asked one of his aides to
give him a total casualty list.

1095
01:04:02,370 --> 01:04:07,920
And the aid came back and the
casualty list had 75 Americans

1096
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:11,250
on it who had died in Vietnam
and he said that's too much.

1097
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:16,080
We're not going to have a single
more American died at a high

1098
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:20,340
national security order to 63
that ordered every true every US

1099
01:04:20,370 --> 01:04:24,570
US service person home from
Vietnam was the first 1000

1100
01:04:24,570 --> 01:04:30,930
Leaving the next month and
beginning of November and and

1101
01:04:30,930 --> 01:04:35,280
that he died a month later. And
a week after his death. That

1102
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:39,690
order was remanded and President
Johnson ended up spending. I

1103
01:04:39,690 --> 01:04:43,320
think 250,000 troops by
President Johnson President

1104
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:47,370
Johnson ended up sending 250,000
troops. Ultimately

1105
01:04:47,370 --> 01:04:52,920
560,000 56,000 never came home
including my cousin George

1106
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:56,070
Skakel who died in the Tet
Offensive and we killed a

1107
01:04:56,070 --> 01:05:04,950
million Vietnamese and You know,
we had, we've we've been going

1108
01:05:04,980 --> 01:05:07,830
off on this path with the
military industrial complex,

1109
01:05:08,790 --> 01:05:11,850
which President Eisenhower
warned about a week before him

1110
01:05:11,850 --> 01:05:14,760
or three days before my uncle
took off, it's in the best

1111
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,490
speech that he ever gave in one
of the most important moment in

1112
01:05:17,490 --> 01:05:24,180
history where he warned America.
If we did not take great pains

1113
01:05:24,180 --> 01:05:27,120
to avoid the millet, the
emerging Military Industrial

1114
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,390
Complex would devour our
democracy would destroy American

1115
01:05:30,390 --> 01:05:33,780
values from within. And my uncle
knew that he knew that speech

1116
01:05:33,780 --> 01:05:38,040
and he spent the three years is
1000 days in office, fighting

1117
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:41,100
against the rise the military
industrial complex after his

1118
01:05:41,100 --> 01:05:45,000
death, we went down that path
that Eisenhower predicted and

1119
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,970
that's where we are today. And
it's time now to reverse that.

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01:05:48,210 --> 01:05:48,870
It's time.

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01:05:51,420 --> 01:05:56,550
Adam Curry: Somebody likes it.
So I'm listening. I'm listening

1122
01:05:56,550 --> 01:06:01,410
to this guy. And he goes into
all of this stuff is like the

1123
01:06:01,410 --> 01:06:05,970
military industrial complex. And
it's like listening to 15 years

1124
01:06:05,970 --> 01:06:10,860
of no agenda clips. It really is
into one. And yeah, it rolled

1125
01:06:10,860 --> 01:06:15,150
into one and, and pretty
concise. And he does it well.

1126
01:06:15,150 --> 01:06:18,930
And he talks about how we
promised and he says Baker

1127
01:06:18,930 --> 01:06:22,260
promise we all promised not one
inch towards the east with NATO.

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01:06:22,260 --> 01:06:25,380
And he says no, we didn't do one
inch we did 1000 miles. And

1129
01:06:25,380 --> 01:06:28,800
we've completely surrounded
Russia. And you know, he talks

1130
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:32,910
about another one of his uncle
speeches where he said, you

1131
01:06:32,910 --> 01:06:36,060
know, hey, you know, we didn't
win World War Two, the Russians

1132
01:06:36,060 --> 01:06:39,360
did, the Russians defeated the
Germans or you're weaken them

1133
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:42,870
enough. So we could go into
Berlin, which is true, which is

1134
01:06:42,870 --> 01:06:47,190
historical fact. And, and then
he rolls out. And it's funny

1135
01:06:47,190 --> 01:06:50,370
because his his head is so in
those days that he instead of

1136
01:06:50,370 --> 01:06:54,420
Boris Johnson, he says, Boris
Yeltsin.

1137
01:06:56,010 --> 01:06:59,130
Unknown: He doesn't he doesn't
correct himself. But he calls

1138
01:06:59,130 --> 01:07:02,280
out something else we knew we
now have such a distorted and

1139
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:06,210
desperate view of the other
side. We won't even speak to

1140
01:07:06,210 --> 01:07:09,690
them to see conflict as
inevitable as become the

1141
01:07:09,690 --> 01:07:14,280
cornerstone of US foreign
policy. Two or three decades

1142
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:17,580
ago, it was the clash of
civilization between Islam and

1143
01:07:17,580 --> 01:07:21,630
the West. Today, those legions
of think tanks that are funded

1144
01:07:21,630 --> 01:07:25,440
by the defense industry exhort
us to prepare for the inevitable

1145
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:30,000
war with China. A war is
inevitable only if we make it

1146
01:07:30,030 --> 01:07:30,750
inevitable.

1147
01:07:38,850 --> 01:07:42,480
The war in Ukraine could have
been avoided even as late now we

1148
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:49,680
now know as spring of 2022 when
US officials sent Boris Yeltsin

1149
01:07:49,740 --> 01:07:53,310
to have to scuttle peace talks
between Ukraine and Russia a

1150
01:07:53,310 --> 01:07:57,390
peace agreement they had already
signed. And not only that Russia

1151
01:07:57,390 --> 01:08:00,840
had already begun removing its
troops from the key area, we now

1152
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:06,270
know this war was this war was
not inevitable. It was the

1153
01:08:06,270 --> 01:08:09,990
creation of a relentless
mentality of foreign domination.

1154
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,260
There you go. She said, yell,
somebody meant Boris Johnson,

1155
01:08:13,260 --> 01:08:15,480
because that's true. Boris
Johnson

1156
01:08:16,529 --> 01:08:20,069
John C Dvorak: brought that
document out, slashed into front

1157
01:08:20,069 --> 01:08:23,189
of the cameras showed the
initials and said this, this was

1158
01:08:23,189 --> 01:08:28,229
a peace agreement. And it was
never it was the Russians were

1159
01:08:28,229 --> 01:08:32,459
implementing it. But then it
turns out that we go to the

1160
01:08:32,489 --> 01:08:35,129
Ukrainians and forget that.

1161
01:08:36,779 --> 01:08:39,659
Adam Curry: So and so his
strategy he has I don't think

1162
01:08:39,689 --> 01:08:40,229
either way.

1163
01:08:40,469 --> 01:08:44,189
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry. But by
the way, that is scandalous that

1164
01:08:44,189 --> 01:08:46,199
the mainstream does not harp on

1165
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,390
Adam Curry: that, because
they're all part of it. This is

1166
01:08:48,420 --> 01:08:52,410
way down that Pantelis is
scandalous, scandalous.

1167
01:08:52,800 --> 01:09:00,030
Scandalous, I tell you what so
so his strategy, he doesn't seem

1168
01:09:00,030 --> 01:09:04,230
to have a ground game he doesn't
if you go to the RFK or Kennedy

1169
01:09:04,230 --> 01:09:08,760
20 four.com website, there's no
bumper stickers, there's no yard

1170
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:13,320
signs and some T shirts. No
agenda shop has more than his

1171
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:19,830
shop. So I guess his strategies
podcast which I know they may it

1172
01:09:19,830 --> 01:09:22,680
may work he's going on a lot of
them he's going everywhere he

1173
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,950
can i We could probably get him
one I have one I have RFK Jr who

1174
01:09:25,950 --> 01:09:30,870
grill him. Grill well grill him
we want to deal

1175
01:09:32,100 --> 01:09:36,810
John C Dvorak: with the defense
industries and Big Pharma

1176
01:09:38,250 --> 01:09:42,060
combined against him. It's very
hard to mention the intelligence

1177
01:09:42,060 --> 01:09:44,700
community very which doesn't
have to do anything in this

1178
01:09:44,790 --> 01:09:49,290
case. DEA has got a prayer
they're just pounding with the

1179
01:09:49,290 --> 01:09:54,540
with the with the overriding
propaganda is an act die Vax nut

1180
01:09:54,540 --> 01:10:00,120
ball that shouldn't be taken
seriously. And the fact that And

1181
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,490
then the public will see that
he's not taken seriously by the

1182
01:10:02,490 --> 01:10:06,660
mainstream media, which is the
third element of this trifecta

1183
01:10:06,660 --> 01:10:15,870
of, of evil doers does is is the
fact that he's got 25% Now in

1184
01:10:15,870 --> 01:10:18,840
terms of people that say they
might want to vote for him is a

1185
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:23,100
miracle. If it goes higher than
that, I'm going to be stunned.

1186
01:10:23,670 --> 01:10:27,120
Adam Curry: He says he has 25%
That's according to

1187
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:30,390
John C Dvorak: one source. Yeah.
25% That's the Democrats are the

1188
01:10:30,390 --> 01:10:31,560
Democrats. Okay?

1189
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,620
Adam Curry: Well, I'm hearing a
lot of Trump errs going, hey,

1190
01:10:34,620 --> 01:10:38,460
yeah, we need Trump and Kennedy
ticket that'll do it. I'm like

1191
01:10:38,460 --> 01:10:44,700
dream on. That'll never never,
never. But I have to say this

1192
01:10:44,700 --> 01:10:50,250
anti war message might connect
if enough people are killed. I

1193
01:10:50,250 --> 01:10:53,460
mean, you're right it's there's
still 30% of the world at least

1194
01:10:53,460 --> 01:10:56,130
the United States for sure who
are walking around with you have

1195
01:10:56,130 --> 01:11:00,420
masks on in the car, there's so
mind control. But when you go in

1196
01:11:00,420 --> 01:11:01,350
and I was watching

1197
01:11:01,350 --> 01:11:04,380
John C Dvorak: some TV, local TV
thing, and they had they were

1198
01:11:04,380 --> 01:11:07,470
interviewing a couple that owned
a restaurant and so ever no

1199
01:11:07,470 --> 01:11:10,950
one's wearing a mask except the
restaurant owners. And there are

1200
01:11:10,950 --> 01:11:13,920
a couple it's like they're
married and they're wearing

1201
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:15,930
masks sitting next to each
other.

1202
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:22,110
Adam Curry: No, he did have a an
appearance on Newsmax with Greta

1203
01:11:22,110 --> 01:11:24,750
Van Susteren, my how the mighty
have fallen.

1204
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,620
John C Dvorak: And this is just,
this is almost a carnival, the

1205
01:11:28,620 --> 01:11:28,950
why

1206
01:11:28,980 --> 01:11:31,020
Adam Curry: and this is about
bio weapons.

1207
01:11:31,050 --> 01:11:35,730
Unknown: But what what I worry
about is is a WMD like a virus

1208
01:11:35,730 --> 01:11:38,610
like a gain of function
something? Do you worry of

1209
01:11:38,610 --> 01:11:42,060
Greta, you ignorant sloth about
that? Because I see that as sort

1210
01:11:42,060 --> 01:11:45,060
of the next the next big fight
because, you know, those viruses

1211
01:11:45,060 --> 01:11:49,110
don't see any borders. And
they're relatively cheap to do

1212
01:11:49,110 --> 01:11:52,710
this gain of function. I mean,
it's just that's what I worry

1213
01:11:52,710 --> 01:11:54,810
about more than the big
hardware.

1214
01:11:56,010 --> 01:12:01,050
Yeah, you're exactly right. And
we know that the Chinese are

1215
01:12:01,050 --> 01:12:04,890
developing ethnic bio weapons or
bio weapons that are designed to

1216
01:12:04,890 --> 01:12:09,390
attack people of certain racial
types. And the and we're doing

1217
01:12:09,390 --> 01:12:13,230
the same thing. We've been
collecting Chinese DNA. We've

1218
01:12:13,230 --> 01:12:17,400
been collecting Russian DNA
specifically for that it is arms

1219
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:23,250
race is a character to Hashmi.
You know, in 1969, we had

1220
01:12:23,250 --> 01:12:27,690
developed by then nucular
equivalency with bio weapons, so

1221
01:12:27,690 --> 01:12:30,720
we could eliminate the same
numbers of people with bio

1222
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:34,470
weapons, I think 29 cents a
death, they calculated the

1223
01:12:34,500 --> 01:12:38,820
Defense Department and the CIA
calculated at that time.

1224
01:12:39,780 --> 01:12:42,780
President Nixon did the most
extraordinary thing. He went to

1225
01:12:42,780 --> 01:12:47,070
Fort Dietrich, and he said we
are unilaterally ending the bio

1226
01:12:47,070 --> 01:12:50,580
weapons arms race, we are giving
up all of our bio weapons, we're

1227
01:12:50,580 --> 01:12:53,820
going to destroy them. We're
going to disable the capacity at

1228
01:12:53,820 --> 01:12:57,360
Fort Dietrich, and we're not
going to make them anymore. And

1229
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:01,350
three years later, almost all
the nations on the earth signed

1230
01:13:01,350 --> 01:13:05,790
a charter stopping bio weapons
production and and the problem

1231
01:13:05,790 --> 01:13:10,320
was, the CIA continued to do
secret bio weapons production

1232
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,620
our country, the Russians found
out about that and rejigged

1233
01:13:13,620 --> 01:13:19,650
their program. And then after
2001, we passed the Patriot Act,

1234
01:13:19,650 --> 01:13:22,590
which reopened the arms race,
which basically cancelled out

1235
01:13:23,250 --> 01:13:28,800
Nixon's 1979 agreement treaty
and launched a new bio weapons

1236
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,890
arms race, and everybody else in
the world is doing it. And the

1237
01:13:31,890 --> 01:13:35,730
impacts as you point out, Greta
are horrific. Yeah. And then

1238
01:13:35,790 --> 01:13:40,710
there we are with COVID, whether
it was Wuhan lime for Dietrich,

1239
01:13:41,100 --> 01:13:43,680
and wherever it came from,
everyone's pointing the finger

1240
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:48,420
at trios where they do it. And
then of course, we know now that

1241
01:13:48,420 --> 01:13:54,450
there were quite a few us
admitted by Vicki Nuland, US Bio

1242
01:13:54,450 --> 01:13:58,980
Labs in Ukraine. Yeah, that's
the kicker and check it out. So

1243
01:13:58,980 --> 01:14:03,030
the Russian defense ministry
gave a briefing on US military

1244
01:14:03,030 --> 01:14:06,090
and biological activity and they
have they have receipts they

1245
01:14:06,090 --> 01:14:10,350
showed documents acquired when
they when they went into all the

1246
01:14:10,350 --> 01:14:12,150
Bio Labs and you know, scooped

1247
01:14:12,150 --> 01:14:14,520
John C Dvorak: up they overran
them scooped up the document

1248
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:15,480
read that fast

1249
01:14:15,510 --> 01:14:17,910
Adam Curry: documents acquired
during the special military

1250
01:14:17,910 --> 01:14:21,480
operation proved the Walter Reed
Army Institute of Research

1251
01:14:21,480 --> 01:14:24,840
connection to the US Defense
Threat Reduction Agency and its

1252
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:31,140
key contractor. The meta biota
company, admitted by Oda was the

1253
01:14:31,140 --> 01:14:35,460
company that Hunter Biden played
a role in funding for these Bio

1254
01:14:35,460 --> 01:14:41,370
Labs in Ukraine. I mean, this
stinks to high hell, all of it.

1255
01:14:41,790 --> 01:14:45,150
John C Dvorak: Well, let's stop
there for a second and consider

1256
01:14:45,150 --> 01:14:50,610
something I'm like, constantly
consider, which is that the

1257
01:14:50,610 --> 01:14:55,710
whole Hunter Biden episode, the
craziness, and then there's

1258
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:59,790
recent slap on the wrist and all
the rest of it and all the stuff

1259
01:14:59,790 --> 01:15:04,170
that You know, Biden supposedly
did, it just sounds so much like

1260
01:15:04,170 --> 01:15:08,520
that, sonny, that guy that used
to be the gangster in Boston

1261
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:10,410
that was working for the FBI

1262
01:15:10,770 --> 01:15:13,350
Adam Curry: with Whitey Bolger
Whitey Bolger.

1263
01:15:14,490 --> 01:15:17,310
John C Dvorak: And it's just as
though they've given these guys

1264
01:15:17,310 --> 01:15:22,080
have been working for the FBI
CIA who knows who, and they're

1265
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:25,650
covered. That's why the DOJ,
nothing is ever coming of any of

1266
01:15:25,650 --> 01:15:30,840
this. There's got to be a reason
that nobody is doing anything

1267
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:34,230
about the comer investigation
where they're finding all this

1268
01:15:34,230 --> 01:15:37,950
money flowing into the Biden
family and Biden living in these

1269
01:15:37,950 --> 01:15:42,510
mansions. And it's just,
there's, there's absolutely

1270
01:15:42,540 --> 01:15:46,530
zipping done. There has to be a
reason is not because Biden is a

1271
01:15:46,530 --> 01:15:47,430
nice guy.

1272
01:15:47,460 --> 01:15:51,660
Adam Curry: No, no. I think
Hunter Biden is the key. If they

1273
01:15:51,660 --> 01:15:56,010
unravel that guy, they unravel a
lot. He's covered. Yeah, well,

1274
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:57,000
John C Dvorak: let's listen to
happening.

1275
01:15:57,030 --> 01:15:59,280
Adam Curry: Let's listen to the
pixie girl on the Central

1276
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:00,750
Intelligence Broadcast Systems.

1277
01:16:00,780 --> 01:16:03,150
Unknown: As part of the Hunter
Biden plea agreement. Three

1278
01:16:03,150 --> 01:16:06,870
charges were filed in a Delaware
court to misdemeanor counts of

1279
01:16:06,870 --> 01:16:10,680
willful failure to pay federal
income tax on annual earnings in

1280
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:15,660
excess of $1.5 million. A third
count possession of a handgun by

1281
01:16:15,660 --> 01:16:19,920
a drug user would be dismissed
if Biden remains drug free and

1282
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:23,460
commits no additional crimes
during a specified time period.

1283
01:16:23,820 --> 01:16:27,180
A source familiar with the term
said Biden's legal team expects

1284
01:16:27,180 --> 01:16:30,930
probation not jail time, though
final approval rests with the

1285
01:16:30,930 --> 01:16:31,530
judge.

1286
01:16:31,590 --> 01:16:34,560
I think the judge is going to do
what's fair. And I think what's

1287
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:39,210
fair is, you know, my client
gets on with his life.

1288
01:16:39,300 --> 01:16:43,020
David Weiss, the US Attorney in
Delaware who led the probe was

1289
01:16:43,020 --> 01:16:46,200
appointed by then President
Trump and left in place by the

1290
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:49,200
Biden administration. In a
statement why said the

1291
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:52,890
investigation is ongoing. But
Hunter Biden's team sees it

1292
01:16:52,890 --> 01:16:56,520
differently. My understanding is
that we're done. Traveling in

1293
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,700
California President Biden was
asked about the news

1294
01:16:59,790 --> 01:17:01,140
and we're proud of our son.

1295
01:17:02,910 --> 01:17:04,410
Adam Curry: That's the court of
the century.

1296
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,520
Unknown: The news I'm very proud
of my son.

1297
01:17:09,179 --> 01:17:12,869
Hunter Biden spoke about the
federal investigation on CBS

1298
01:17:12,869 --> 01:17:13,619
Sunday Morning.

1299
01:17:13,830 --> 01:17:18,990
I'm cooperating completely and
I'm absolutely certain 100%

1300
01:17:18,990 --> 01:17:24,990
certain of the investigation
that I will be cleared 100

1301
01:17:24,990 --> 01:17:25,500
frickin

1302
01:17:25,500 --> 01:17:26,130
percent.

1303
01:17:26,190 --> 01:17:29,130
Democrats hailed the agreement
as a sign of the Justice

1304
01:17:29,130 --> 01:17:32,670
Department's independence
Republicans cried foul. Former

1305
01:17:32,670 --> 01:17:36,240
President Donald Trump arraigned
on criminal charges last week,

1306
01:17:36,300 --> 01:17:39,000
said Hunter Biden was given a
mere traffic ticket.

1307
01:17:39,150 --> 01:17:41,310
Do you think this is another
example of a two tiered system

1308
01:17:41,310 --> 01:17:42,390
of justice in America?

1309
01:17:42,480 --> 01:17:45,840
Republican Congressman James
Comer leads the House Oversight

1310
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:47,610
Committee, which is investigate
by

1311
01:17:47,610 --> 01:17:49,800
Adam Curry: the way I love how
they do this. So you know, they

1312
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,980
pull in Biden quote, I'm very
proud of my son. And President

1313
01:17:52,980 --> 01:17:55,500
Trump said and all they do is
the question they don't do the

1314
01:17:55,500 --> 01:17:56,790
answer. Just the question,

1315
01:17:56,820 --> 01:17:59,490
Unknown: Said Hunter Biden was
given a mere traffic ticket.

1316
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:01,800
You think this is another
example of a two tiered system

1317
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:04,320
of justice in America Republican
content, even

1318
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:07,230
Adam Curry: his answer? This
isn't this is incredible

1319
01:18:07,230 --> 01:18:10,770
reporting. Trump said this, but
we only hear that the question

1320
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:12,450
Unknown: will trump the range on
criminal

1321
01:18:12,450 --> 01:18:14,460
John C Dvorak: where they're
structuring it? Yeah, it's

1322
01:18:14,460 --> 01:18:17,700
Unknown: good charges last week,
said Hunter Biden was given a

1323
01:18:17,700 --> 01:18:18,780
mere traffic ticket.

1324
01:18:18,930 --> 01:18:21,060
You think this is another
example of a two tiered system

1325
01:18:21,060 --> 01:18:22,170
of justice in America.

1326
01:18:22,260 --> 01:18:25,620
Republican Congressman James
Comer leads the House Oversight

1327
01:18:25,620 --> 01:18:28,410
Committee, which is
investigating the Biden family's

1328
01:18:28,440 --> 01:18:31,470
foreign business dealings, a
probe disputed by the White

1329
01:18:31,470 --> 01:18:36,060
House. Well, you call the US
attorney and Delaware to

1330
01:18:36,270 --> 01:18:37,680
testify. I would

1331
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:40,950
expect the US attorney to
testify in front of the House of

1332
01:18:40,950 --> 01:18:45,600
Representatives very soon. He
needs to explain whether or not

1333
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:47,370
his investigation is concluded.

1334
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:50,430
Gene Rossi, a former Justice
Department official who handled

1335
01:18:50,430 --> 01:18:54,300
tax cases told CBS News that
failure to pay tax on more than

1336
01:18:54,330 --> 01:18:58,620
$3 million, even though now
repaid is a serious violation.

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01:18:58,710 --> 01:18:59,400
If this were

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01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:04,920
hunter Smith, instead of Hunter
Biden. I think you would have a

1339
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:08,940
very much more aggressive
prosecution.

1340
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:12,150
Adam Curry: So this is something
I think I feel like the country

1341
01:19:12,150 --> 01:19:15,660
is kind of locking into it's
like, hey, wait a minute, this

1342
01:19:15,660 --> 01:19:19,560
two tiered justice system, you
know, even herridge can't get

1343
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:21,270
away from it. NBC had a

1344
01:19:21,300 --> 01:19:24,450
Unknown: shorter report. Tonight
after a five year investigation,

1345
01:19:24,450 --> 01:19:27,300
the president's son Hunter Biden
has reached a plea deal with

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01:19:27,300 --> 01:19:30,960
federal prosecutors to plead
guilty to two misdemeanor tax

1347
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:35,610
charges and likely avoid prison
time. Prosecutors say Biden did

1348
01:19:35,610 --> 01:19:40,380
not pay more than $100,000 in
taxes on over $1.5 million in

1349
01:19:40,380 --> 01:19:45,840
income in both 2017 and 2018.
And two sources tell NBC News,

1350
01:19:46,020 --> 01:19:49,620
the prosecutor will recommend
probation while also agreeing

1351
01:19:49,620 --> 01:19:52,770
not to prosecute Hunter Biden
for illegally possessing a

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01:19:52,770 --> 01:19:56,400
firearm. Even though Biden knew
he was barred from doing so

1353
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:59,970
because he was using drugs.
Biden faced a maximum of two

1354
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,600
Well of months behind bars for
each tax charge and up to 10

1355
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:05,220
years for owning the handgun.

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01:20:05,550 --> 01:20:10,350
I think what's fair is, you
know, my client gets on with his

1357
01:20:10,350 --> 01:20:10,830
life,

1358
01:20:10,860 --> 01:20:13,740
the former president tonight
accusing the Biden Justice

1359
01:20:13,740 --> 01:20:16,710
Department of giving Hunter
Biden quote, a mirror traffic

1360
01:20:16,710 --> 01:20:20,730
ticket, our system is broken.
top Republicans argue it's

1361
01:20:20,730 --> 01:20:22,680
evidence of a double standard.

1362
01:20:22,770 --> 01:20:26,490
Adam Curry: So what they've
done, Republicans and Democrats,

1363
01:20:26,490 --> 01:20:31,350
unit party people, they've moved
the conversation away from the

1364
01:20:31,350 --> 01:20:36,510
true crimes of the Biden crime
family, and all this all the Bio

1365
01:20:36,510 --> 01:20:39,270
Labs, and I mean, they are
involved. And I think what

1366
01:20:39,270 --> 01:20:42,060
happened, you know, it's a
sophisticated operation. Ukraine

1367
01:20:42,060 --> 01:20:45,600
has been used for all kinds of
things for decades and decades.

1368
01:20:45,870 --> 01:20:51,540
You know, even the, the, the the
DNC server went to Ukraine, I

1369
01:20:51,540 --> 01:20:54,090
mean, all this does with Ukraine
was just it's where you go for

1370
01:20:54,090 --> 01:20:57,510
all kinds of criminal activity.
And the problem is, the Biden

1371
01:20:57,510 --> 01:21:02,310
crime family are just Grifters.
And they screwed up. It's like,

1372
01:21:02,340 --> 01:21:05,940
oh, well, we got these guys.
They die. We can't have them

1373
01:21:05,940 --> 01:21:08,850
blow it for us. Is this is this
the Bonanza over here? We're

1374
01:21:08,850 --> 01:21:12,360
divvying up this country. We
can't have that. So let's talk

1375
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:16,590
about dual standards. Yeah. And
then what are the Republicans

1376
01:21:16,590 --> 01:21:23,010
do? Or whatever they haul in?
And they haul in Durham? You

1377
01:21:23,010 --> 01:21:26,760
know, oh, let's talk about that.
And let's talk about how I have

1378
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:26,940
a,

1379
01:21:27,420 --> 01:21:30,420
John C Dvorak: I have an
alternative clip of this, of the

1380
01:21:30,420 --> 01:21:33,840
hunter thing. And I don't say
please, still does the hunter

1381
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:37,590
rundown and NTD. But I still
think that they're protected is

1382
01:21:38,700 --> 01:21:41,640
everything that we're witnessing
is just an example. And I'd like

1383
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:45,630
to know, by the way, how you can
make $1.5 million and only pay

1384
01:21:45,630 --> 01:21:49,950
$100,000 in taxes. How does that
work?

1385
01:21:50,010 --> 01:21:53,640
Adam Curry: Well, maybe he wrote
off all the hookers and blow. I

1386
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:55,080
mean, he could say that, like,

1387
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:57,960
John C Dvorak: you know how you
make $1.5 million. He and He did

1388
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:00,480
it for two years ago back who
knows how many years but those

1389
01:22:00,480 --> 01:22:03,570
two years that are under
investigation, he must have done

1390
01:22:03,570 --> 01:22:08,580
it more in just two years now.
Make a $1.5 million paid. Don't

1391
01:22:08,580 --> 01:22:12,360
pay don't even file hell with
it. Yeah. And then they they

1392
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:16,680
bust you and you had to pay
100,000? Yeah. Does anyone do

1393
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:17,610
the math on this?

1394
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:20,490
Adam Curry: No. Why would we do
that? No one's paying tax except

1395
01:22:20,490 --> 01:22:21,540
us. This should

1396
01:22:21,540 --> 01:22:25,380
John C Dvorak: be 38% of the 1.5
which is at least at half. You

1397
01:22:25,380 --> 01:22:30,690
know, it's almost three or
300 500 or $500,000? Not

1398
01:22:30,690 --> 01:22:32,340
100,000? No, but

1399
01:22:32,340 --> 01:22:34,230
Adam Curry: you know, again, it
was all you know, and they

1400
01:22:34,230 --> 01:22:37,560
usually had penalties. Where's
the penalties? No, no, no, no,

1401
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:41,400
no, no, no, no. See, that's
where instead of smelling the

1402
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:45,390
rat people go to tear justice
system. And that's what gets

1403
01:22:45,390 --> 01:22:49,080
everybody off track. And look,
I'm still on Twitter. I see it

1404
01:22:49,230 --> 01:22:53,640
is true to Joseph says do man.
Okay,

1405
01:22:53,670 --> 01:22:56,670
Unknown: President Biden's son
Hunter plans to plead guilty to

1406
01:22:56,670 --> 01:23:00,540
two tax crimes, and has struck a
deal with federal prosecutors to

1407
01:23:00,540 --> 01:23:04,710
resolve a felony gun charge. And
today's Iris Tao brings us more

1408
01:23:04,710 --> 01:23:05,760
from the White House

1409
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:09,720
and federal prosecutors charged
Hunter Biden was in failure to

1410
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:14,250
pay income tax and felony gun
charge of illegally possessing a

1411
01:23:14,250 --> 01:23:18,120
firearm while knowing that he
was addicted to using drugs.

1412
01:23:18,300 --> 01:23:21,690
According to court documents,
Hunter Biden is expected to

1413
01:23:21,690 --> 01:23:25,200
enter a plea deal basically
pleading guilty to two

1414
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:28,980
misdemeanor and tax crimes. But
when it comes to the felony gun

1415
01:23:28,980 --> 01:23:32,670
charge, he's expected to enter
what he calls a diversion

1416
01:23:32,670 --> 01:23:36,390
program through which he could
walk away with no jail time, or

1417
01:23:36,390 --> 01:23:40,230
even a felony record. If he
stays sober for two years and

1418
01:23:40,230 --> 01:23:42,510
gives us the right to ever own a
gun again,

1419
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:44,460
if you are the president's son.

1420
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:48,900
He will house speaker Kevin
McCarthy today criticize what he

1421
01:23:48,900 --> 01:23:52,650
calls a two tiered justice
system. And he vows to continue

1422
01:23:52,650 --> 01:23:56,490
do peace investigation into the
Biden family and this business

1423
01:23:56,490 --> 01:23:57,180
dealings.

1424
01:23:57,630 --> 01:24:01,080
DOJ should not be able to
withhold any information now.

1425
01:24:01,620 --> 01:24:05,310
But a top Democrat on the House
Oversight Panel today called the

1426
01:24:05,310 --> 01:24:09,030
charges against Hunter Biden a
reflection of the DoD

1427
01:24:09,060 --> 01:24:12,750
independence, and that says
former President Trump who's was

1428
01:24:12,750 --> 01:24:17,310
indicted with 37 federal charges
and calls Hunter Biden's charges

1429
01:24:17,340 --> 01:24:20,940
in New York traffic ticket. And
today President Biden said

1430
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:23,190
I'm very proud of my son. A
White House

1431
01:24:23,190 --> 01:24:26,460
spokesperson says today that the
President and the First Lady

1432
01:24:26,460 --> 01:24:30,000
love their son and support him
as he continues to rebuild his

1433
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:33,600
life while adding we have no
further comment. Meanwhile,

1434
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,960
although Hunter Biden's or Tony
says today's announcement marks

1435
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:40,710
the end to a five year
investigation into Hunter Biden.

1436
01:24:40,950 --> 01:24:44,520
The DoD later said on Tuesday
that its investigation into

1437
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:46,650
Hunter Biden is still ongoing.

1438
01:24:47,580 --> 01:24:50,730
Adam Curry: Yeah, well that is
just saying that to keep their

1439
01:24:50,730 --> 01:24:57,510
power Whoa, you know, we might
do some it is all and and also

1440
01:24:57,510 --> 01:25:01,200
this incessant reading of the
law. Action is not for a year

1441
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:03,990
and a half and elbow. Brewer was
going to be president is going

1442
01:25:03,990 --> 01:25:06,570
to be who gives a crap it's
going to be president. What's

1443
01:25:06,570 --> 01:25:10,500
happening the President is not
the king, the emperor of America

1444
01:25:10,500 --> 01:25:16,050
he has limited power see Trump
now he what he did he did what

1445
01:25:16,050 --> 01:25:20,880
he did he's Supreme Court
federal judges tried to do

1446
01:25:21,330 --> 01:25:25,620
everything else was his downfall
talking to Putin talking to to

1447
01:25:25,620 --> 01:25:28,440
North Korea talking to the
Saudis all that was you know,

1448
01:25:28,470 --> 01:25:32,400
the military industrial complex
dia whatever it is, it's all

1449
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:36,750
taken people down it's just not
that important you know, your

1450
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:40,950
mail your your governor your
your city council your school

1451
01:25:40,950 --> 01:25:43,350
board that's where you got to
focus on these in America at

1452
01:25:43,350 --> 01:25:47,460
least we're a federated system
of states you still have power

1453
01:25:47,460 --> 01:25:51,480
people just sucked into this.
Whoa this guy that guy Red Team

1454
01:25:51,480 --> 01:25:57,180
Blue exactly what what RFK Jr
said so then we have the new law

1455
01:25:57,180 --> 01:26:00,600
let's just go back and let's as
we say in the old country, drag

1456
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:07,080
some old cows out of the canal.
And let's let our cool out slow

1457
01:26:07,650 --> 01:26:12,480
that in Dutch and our cool out
slow Tyler is dragging Oh cow

1458
01:26:12,480 --> 01:26:13,470
out of the canal.

1459
01:26:15,570 --> 01:26:17,100
Unknown: The Dutchman great one

1460
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:19,350
Adam Curry: off cow out of the
canal.

1461
01:26:20,219 --> 01:26:23,159
Unknown: Here's NBC News report
and on Capitol Hill, the former

1462
01:26:23,159 --> 01:26:27,389
special counsel investigating
the FBIs Russia probe against

1463
01:26:27,389 --> 01:26:31,079
then candidate Donald Trump
telling lawmakers his findings

1464
01:26:31,079 --> 01:26:35,309
included sobering missteps by
the FBI. Jared Hake. Now with

1465
01:26:35,309 --> 01:26:35,909
that story.

1466
01:26:36,690 --> 01:26:39,780
Special Counsel John Durham
facing a five hour grilling,

1467
01:26:39,810 --> 01:26:43,200
grilling, he's explosive
conclusion that the FBI acted

1468
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:47,700
improperly in its opening of the
2016 Trump Russia probe. We

1469
01:26:47,700 --> 01:26:51,060
found troubling violations of
law and policy Mr. Durham

1470
01:26:51,060 --> 01:26:54,000
arguing that the available
evidence did not support opening

1471
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:57,240
the full investigation known as
crossfire hurricane,

1472
01:26:57,420 --> 01:27:00,390
the FBI opened up crossfire
hurricane without speaking to

1473
01:27:00,390 --> 01:27:03,210
the people who provided the
initial information. Is that

1474
01:27:03,210 --> 01:27:07,740
true? That's correct. Was there
adequate predication for the FBI

1475
01:27:07,860 --> 01:27:11,790
to open crossfire hurricane as a
full investigation

1476
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:15,870
on July 31. And my view based on
our investigation that was not a

1477
01:27:15,900 --> 01:27:19,470
legitimate basis to openness,
full investigation

1478
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:22,860
and Durham saying he found anti
Trump sentiment among the FBI

1479
01:27:22,860 --> 01:27:25,950
brass who launched the
investigation. There are some

1480
01:27:26,220 --> 01:27:30,360
individuals who clearly
expressed a personal bias. The

1481
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:33,720
Mueller report ultimately found
no conspiracy between the Trump

1482
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:38,100
campaign and Russia but resulted
in 34 People criminally charged

1483
01:27:38,340 --> 01:27:41,820
Democrats noting Durham's four
year investigation produced only

1484
01:27:41,820 --> 01:27:45,540
three criminal cases, including
to acquittals and accusing the

1485
01:27:45,540 --> 01:27:48,870
bill Barr appointee of running
political interference for

1486
01:27:48,870 --> 01:27:50,130
former President Trump.

1487
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:54,090
Adam Curry: So what comes out of
all this as far as I can tell, I

1488
01:27:54,090 --> 01:27:57,240
don't know if you have any
clips. But the we have a when

1489
01:27:57,270 --> 01:28:01,350
everybody we are censoring. We
are censoring Adam Schiff of

1490
01:28:01,350 --> 01:28:09,600
California. And it's like, oh,
yes, he's been censured. And if

1491
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,780
you look it up. In the context
of the United States House of

1492
01:28:12,780 --> 01:28:16,410
Representatives censure refers
to an official reprimand formal

1493
01:28:16,410 --> 01:28:19,500
condemnation of a member for
misconduct and inappropriate

1494
01:28:19,500 --> 01:28:22,710
behavior. Nothing else happens?

1495
01:28:23,220 --> 01:28:25,530
John C Dvorak: No, of course
not. This goes on every so often

1496
01:28:25,530 --> 01:28:27,450
it's supposed to be a review.

1497
01:28:27,900 --> 01:28:31,410
Adam Curry: Yes, it's all a
rebuke slap on the wrist. It we

1498
01:28:31,410 --> 01:28:34,500
disapprove of how you handled
everything. Adam Schiff.

1499
01:28:36,180 --> 01:28:38,910
John C Dvorak: Good to have one
Dirham clip from NTD.

1500
01:28:38,940 --> 01:28:42,300
Adam Curry: But yeah, let's play
the drum and TD Here we go.

1501
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:45,360
Unknown: So Chairman Mike Turner
and ranking Democrat member Jim

1502
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:48,000
Himes came and spoke to
reporters immediately following

1503
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:51,120
that meeting with special
counsel, John Durham. And it's

1504
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,430
interesting because they had
pretty much a bipartisan

1505
01:28:53,430 --> 01:28:57,210
consensus of wanting to address
the mistakes that the FBI made,

1506
01:28:57,390 --> 01:29:00,150
in that in launching that
investigation against former

1507
01:29:00,150 --> 01:29:03,120
President Donald Trump and
expressing a wish to find

1508
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:06,390
solutions moving forward. Let's
look at what they had to say.

1509
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:11,580
It was interesting to hear from
Mr. Durham, that he has concerns

1510
01:29:11,580 --> 01:29:14,460
that there are reforms that need
to go into place and that there

1511
01:29:14,460 --> 01:29:17,310
are still issues that need to be
addressed. And he was very

1512
01:29:17,310 --> 01:29:19,740
forthcoming and sharing with us
and I think that we were able to

1513
01:29:19,740 --> 01:29:22,680
get some information that would
be very helpful for us and the

1514
01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:26,910
work that we have to do on both
FISA renewal FISA reforms and

1515
01:29:26,910 --> 01:29:31,050
also reform issues with the FBI,
and appreciate my ranking member

1516
01:29:31,050 --> 01:29:31,380
Jim

1517
01:29:31,530 --> 01:29:35,460
Ward essentially says that the
FBI made serious mistakes when

1518
01:29:35,460 --> 01:29:38,370
launching that crossfire
hurricane investigation into

1519
01:29:38,370 --> 01:29:41,610
former President Donald Trump
because they lacked sufficient

1520
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:45,060
evidence to even open the
investigation to begin with.

1521
01:29:45,060 --> 01:29:48,540
Instead, the information that
the FBI did have was based on

1522
01:29:48,540 --> 01:29:51,960
individual sources who were
politically biased and those

1523
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:55,650
facts went unchecked, even when
the FBI did come across

1524
01:29:55,650 --> 01:29:59,550
information that was contrary to
that information coming from

1525
01:29:59,550 --> 01:30:01,980
those indices. jewel sources
they still dismissed it and

1526
01:30:01,980 --> 01:30:05,010
continue to launch that
investigation. Now, of course,

1527
01:30:05,010 --> 01:30:07,950
we've heard from many
Republicans. They pointed to

1528
01:30:07,950 --> 01:30:11,250
this Durham report saying that
it's proof that the FBI has used

1529
01:30:11,250 --> 01:30:14,880
their power to target political
opponents, specifically former

1530
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:17,040
President Donald Trump. Of
course, this is a similar

1531
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:20,610
argument that we heard just last
week during Trump's second

1532
01:30:20,820 --> 01:30:24,600
arraignment. Now, the FBI has
responded acknowledging that

1533
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:27,990
they did make mistakes with that
crossfire hurricane

1534
01:30:27,990 --> 01:30:31,170
investigation, but have said
they have since taken steps to

1535
01:30:31,170 --> 01:30:34,530
prevent mistakes like this from
happening in the future and have

1536
01:30:34,530 --> 01:30:37,920
also said that the FBI officials
involved in the crossfire

1537
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:41,700
hurricane investigation have
left the FBI either by retiring

1538
01:30:41,700 --> 01:30:45,750
or being terminated or having
resigned. Oh, yeah, nice and

1539
01:30:45,750 --> 01:30:47,670
Adam Curry: tidy. All right.
Okay. So

1540
01:30:47,970 --> 01:30:50,760
John C Dvorak: now I want to
read something from a Democrat.

1541
01:30:51,480 --> 01:30:54,810
This is a newsletter that comes
out on Saturday called a letter

1542
01:30:54,810 --> 01:30:58,050
from an American and I always
like I subscribe to this because

1543
01:30:58,050 --> 01:30:58,860
one of our

1544
01:30:58,950 --> 01:31:01,080
Adam Curry: why wouldn't use it
because you need to have good

1545
01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:03,150
information on all sides. Of
course,

1546
01:31:03,570 --> 01:31:05,790
John C Dvorak: one of our
producers was pitching and one

1547
01:31:05,790 --> 01:31:09,060
of his letters about how his
wife won't come around to listen

1548
01:31:09,060 --> 01:31:14,910
to no agenda. And, and he cited
this newsletter, she reads it

1549
01:31:14,910 --> 01:31:18,960
religiously and believes every
bit of it. And so I'm just going

1550
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:22,620
to read just a bit of it
discussing the Durham report and

1551
01:31:22,620 --> 01:31:26,670
the testimony at Durham hat. And
just to show you, where the

1552
01:31:26,970 --> 01:31:31,260
typical hardcore Democrat is
concerning the Russian

1553
01:31:31,260 --> 01:31:36,360
investigation because it keeps
cropping up. But Democrats on

1554
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:38,880
the committee pressed him on the
facts of the Russian

1555
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:43,860
investigation itself. And he
seemingly somewhat reluctantly

1556
01:31:43,860 --> 01:31:47,310
agreed under oath in response to
question by Representative Adam

1557
01:31:47,310 --> 01:31:50,580
Schiff, that the facts of the
Muller report and the Senate

1558
01:31:50,580 --> 01:31:55,650
Intelligence Committee report
were correct. Russia interfered

1559
01:31:55,650 --> 01:32:01,020
in the 2016 election for the
benefit of Trump. Trump's

1560
01:32:01,020 --> 01:32:05,250
campaign welcomed the help and
shared information and secret

1561
01:32:05,250 --> 01:32:09,180
meetings with Russian
operatives, and the FBI was

1562
01:32:09,180 --> 01:32:15,630
justified in investigating that
interference. Now, this is not

1563
01:32:15,630 --> 01:32:19,980
what anyone else is hearing. But
this is what this the core of

1564
01:32:19,980 --> 01:32:21,660
the Democrat Party believes
sounds

1565
01:32:21,660 --> 01:32:23,460
Adam Curry: like it was written
by Nicole Wallace.

1566
01:32:23,610 --> 01:32:25,380
John C Dvorak: It's a lie. Yeah.

1567
01:32:26,430 --> 01:32:28,770
Adam Curry: That's not at all
what I mean, we know a couple of

1568
01:32:28,770 --> 01:32:32,160
things from the Muller report.
We read it all we deconstructed

1569
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:34,710
it, it was disappointing for
people that you know, they

1570
01:32:34,710 --> 01:32:38,220
couldn't hang Trump on it. We
also learned that the no agenda

1571
01:32:38,220 --> 01:32:41,040
show is the best podcast in
universe that was also in the

1572
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:45,240
Muller report. It was in there
it was in there. Yeah, that's

1573
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:46,800
why. So then

1574
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:49,980
John C Dvorak: it's a lie, but
they just spew it out just like

1575
01:32:49,980 --> 01:32:54,600
this. Yeah. And it's just and it
goes on with this. It's more

1576
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:59,850
about how Russia and Trump is
they're connected. And they're

1577
01:32:59,850 --> 01:33:02,400
going to somebody's point on
this on one of the talk shows, I

1578
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:06,840
can't remember which one it was
dot bungee G knows, damn radio,

1579
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:09,540
Sham bungee. And he says that
there's no way that you're not

1580
01:33:09,540 --> 01:33:13,380
going to revisit this because it
works so well to just associate

1581
01:33:13,380 --> 01:33:17,100
whoever the Republican whoever a
Republican is running that with

1582
01:33:17,100 --> 01:33:21,780
Russian interference. And they
stick with it. Underlying

1583
01:33:21,780 --> 01:33:23,790
everything we're talking about
and everything and all the

1584
01:33:23,790 --> 01:33:27,990
ghosts and all the realities.
What I just read underlies

1585
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:30,570
everything and it stays there.

1586
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:33,480
Adam Curry: And it's been that
way for for decades and decades.

1587
01:33:33,480 --> 01:33:38,250
It goes all the way back Russia,
communist Russia, Cuba, on and

1588
01:33:38,250 --> 01:33:43,230
on and on. It's all that's
always been the Boogeyman. So

1589
01:33:43,230 --> 01:33:49,470
there was one moment in this in
this hearing, where I forget who

1590
01:33:49,470 --> 01:33:53,100
it was skies, just like, man, if
you're shilling for Trump for

1591
01:33:53,100 --> 01:33:55,710
Trump, you're gonna lose
everything. Your life is over.

1592
01:33:55,710 --> 01:33:56,520
You better quit it.

1593
01:33:56,550 --> 01:33:59,550
Unknown: Yeah, good. John. We've
now entered the fifth hour of

1594
01:33:59,550 --> 01:34:03,270
this hearing where we continue
to hear questions from members

1595
01:34:03,300 --> 01:34:06,600
to the Special Counsel, John
Durham and what's been a very

1596
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:09,960
partisan display up until now
while Republicans have chosen to

1597
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:15,090
focus on the contents of his
report. Democrats have tried to

1598
01:34:15,090 --> 01:34:19,740
discredit John Durham's findings
and even attack his character,

1599
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:22,980
you have a good reputation. You
had a good reputation. That's

1600
01:34:22,980 --> 01:34:26,130
why the two Democrats supported
you. But the longer you hold on

1601
01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:30,900
to Mr. Baugh and this report
that Mr. Barr gave you a special

1602
01:34:30,900 --> 01:34:34,470
counsel, your reputation will be
damaged as everybody's

1603
01:34:34,470 --> 01:34:37,080
reputation who gets involved
with Donald Trump his damage,

1604
01:34:37,110 --> 01:34:40,170
he's damaged goods, there's no
good dealing with him because

1605
01:34:40,170 --> 01:34:42,120
you will end up on the bottom of
a pyre.

1606
01:34:42,210 --> 01:34:46,830
My concern by my reputation is
with the people who I respect my

1607
01:34:46,830 --> 01:34:50,340
family and my Lord. Lordy, and
I'm perfectly comfortable with

1608
01:34:50,340 --> 01:34:51,810
my reputation with them, sir.

1609
01:34:52,230 --> 01:34:55,050
Adam Curry: So your reputation
will be gone. You'll be nothing

1610
01:34:55,050 --> 01:34:59,370
in this town. That's what
they're all afraid I work that's

1611
01:34:59,370 --> 01:35:04,200
what they're all Write up. I do
have to play this. This clip

1612
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:08,880
from Brett bears interview with
President Trump. Brett bear was

1613
01:35:08,910 --> 01:35:12,930
out for out for blood. And I
think he drew some and I and he

1614
01:35:12,930 --> 01:35:16,620
embarrassed the former president
many times with what he was

1615
01:35:16,620 --> 01:35:20,070
saying. And he just I have to
say he just ran circles around

1616
01:35:20,070 --> 01:35:23,430
Trump and Trump wasn't expecting
it. I don't know that he still

1617
01:35:23,430 --> 01:35:26,730
thinks that Fox News was was on
his side. I

1618
01:35:26,730 --> 01:35:28,530
John C Dvorak: believe that's
true, because he said it can

1619
01:35:28,530 --> 01:35:31,050
number of times that he knows
that Fox News This is

1620
01:35:31,860 --> 01:35:35,610
Adam Curry: well he wasn't
prepared for it. Unless this

1621
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:39,180
this was I mean, bear did a lot
of interesting things with boy.

1622
01:35:39,750 --> 01:35:43,650
John C Dvorak: Go ahead to
discuss this little aspect. I

1623
01:35:43,650 --> 01:35:46,380
think Trump's still thinks he's
the smartest guy in the room and

1624
01:35:46,380 --> 01:35:49,200
he can be tricked.

1625
01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:54,150
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. So he can
be tricked. Anyway, listen to

1626
01:35:54,150 --> 01:35:54,750
this. Your Vice

1627
01:35:54,750 --> 01:35:56,970
Unknown: President Mike Pence is
running against you. Your

1628
01:35:56,970 --> 01:35:59,400
ambassador to the United Nations
Nikki Haley. She's running

1629
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:01,980
against you, your former
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo

1630
01:36:01,980 --> 01:36:04,590
said he's not supporting you.
You mentioned National Security

1631
01:36:04,590 --> 01:36:07,350
Adviser John Bolton. He's not
supporting you either. You

1632
01:36:07,350 --> 01:36:10,530
mentioned Attorney General Bill
Barr says you shouldn't be

1633
01:36:10,530 --> 01:36:13,890
president again. I called you to
constantly narcissist and

1634
01:36:13,890 --> 01:36:18,780
troubled man you recently called
and borrow a gutless pig. Your

1635
01:36:18,780 --> 01:36:21,480
second defensive posture is not
supporting you called your

1636
01:36:21,480 --> 01:36:24,330
irresponsible. This week. You
and your White House called your

1637
01:36:24,330 --> 01:36:28,200
White House Chief of Staff John
Kelly, weak and ineffective and

1638
01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:31,110
born with a very small brain.
You called your acting White

1639
01:36:31,110 --> 01:36:34,110
House Chief of Staff Mick
Mulvaney a born loser. You

1640
01:36:34,110 --> 01:36:36,750
called your first Secretary of
State Rex Tillerson dumb as a

1641
01:36:36,750 --> 01:36:39,600
rock and your first Defense
Secretary James Mattis, the

1642
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:42,240
world's most overrated general,
you called your White House

1643
01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:45,420
press secretary Kayleigh Canady
milquetoast and multiple times

1644
01:36:45,420 --> 01:36:47,670
you've referred to your
transportation secretary Elaine

1645
01:36:47,670 --> 01:36:50,970
Chao as Mitch McConnell's China
loving wife.

1646
01:36:52,830 --> 01:36:57,030
I will tell you that something
happens when people leave, they

1647
01:36:57,030 --> 01:37:00,210
can like me very much. I have
this woman named Alyssa Farah.

1648
01:37:00,750 --> 01:37:03,570
She said the greatest things
wrong after she left. He's the

1649
01:37:03,570 --> 01:37:05,910
greatest president we've ever
had. He was unbelievable.

1650
01:37:05,910 --> 01:37:10,410
Unbelievable. Then the view
offered her a contract. But

1651
01:37:10,410 --> 01:37:13,410
obviously, only if she changed
your views. And all of a sudden

1652
01:37:13,410 --> 01:37:16,950
she can say negative things.
Money gets offered to people and

1653
01:37:16,950 --> 01:37:17,940
some people change.

1654
01:37:19,470 --> 01:37:23,520
Adam Curry: This is not the only
the answer. Now, he says it.

1655
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:27,570
Yeah. Well, she was barraged yes
he was but he was like I'm I'm

1656
01:37:27,570 --> 01:37:29,640
great at firing people. He's
pretty good at firing people.

1657
01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:33,000
I'm not good at hiring people.
And by the way, we're gonna say

1658
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:37,110
that No, and he should he should
repent for Operation warp speed.

1659
01:37:37,440 --> 01:37:39,960
Not maybe for doing it because
that wasn't necessarily wrong.

1660
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:42,030
But he should say, you know,
that didn't work out too. Well,

1661
01:37:42,030 --> 01:37:44,400
that stuff is not good. This

1662
01:37:45,570 --> 01:37:48,810
John C Dvorak: pant for not
pardoning Julian Assange.

1663
01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:51,180
Adam Curry: That would be a big
one for us. Yes, for sure. It

1664
01:37:51,180 --> 01:37:53,790
John C Dvorak: also probably
should have also Snowden should

1665
01:37:53,790 --> 01:37:54,780
have been on the list. But

1666
01:37:54,780 --> 01:37:58,950
Adam Curry: also, it feels to me
like he's, he's thinking

1667
01:37:58,950 --> 01:38:02,610
simplistically about America has
grown up. Thanks to him.

1668
01:38:02,610 --> 01:38:06,300
Actually. We have grown up.
There's a lot of people who,

1669
01:38:06,660 --> 01:38:09,330
Paul, the septic guy called me
yesterday and you know, had some

1670
01:38:09,330 --> 01:38:13,290
question about his generator.
And he's like, you know, man,

1671
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:16,680
like Buell right there, Ronnie
D, he's no good. He's Wall

1672
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:20,190
Street guy. But when I Trump
behind, I don't know what to do,

1673
01:38:20,370 --> 01:38:23,190
that people are confused because
now they start to understand the

1674
01:38:23,190 --> 01:38:27,780
issues. They're seeing what's
going on. Now Trump is right

1675
01:38:27,780 --> 01:38:30,750
about what he predicted about
the economy, etc. But that was

1676
01:38:30,750 --> 01:38:33,900
easy to predict because of all
the money that was printed. Then

1677
01:38:33,900 --> 01:38:36,900
he was there. You know, he saw
it, he actually brought the

1678
01:38:36,930 --> 01:38:39,480
Federal Reserve closer into the
treasury than it ever was

1679
01:38:39,480 --> 01:38:45,510
before. And it's just he if you
could get a sentence out and

1680
01:38:45,510 --> 01:38:51,690
explain things calmly and not
always being just, you know, I

1681
01:38:52,170 --> 01:38:53,760
create a more consistent Rumi's

1682
01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:55,080
John C Dvorak: invitation to me.
Yeah.

1683
01:38:56,550 --> 01:39:01,650
Adam Curry: Really, I picked it
up from her. Yeah. And so if RFK

1684
01:39:01,650 --> 01:39:05,970
Jr, who's I think people could
be a single, that could be a

1685
01:39:05,970 --> 01:39:09,360
single voting issue. The only
single voting issue we have in

1686
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:13,770
the United States right now is
abortion and maybe trans rights,

1687
01:39:14,250 --> 01:39:18,060
but everybody could be it
against war. Everybody could be

1688
01:39:18,060 --> 01:39:21,000
against it and Trump can do this
he has a reason or he has a

1689
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:25,950
record with this now in Kennedy
Jr. He

1690
01:39:25,950 --> 01:39:28,080
John C Dvorak: has a right he
has a positive record very good

1691
01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:32,310
right issues war being one of
them. Yeah, but instead he gets

1692
01:39:32,310 --> 01:39:36,720
down into eating or he can't
seem to bring himself up to the

1693
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:40,770
level of like ever Kennedy and
be philosophical in a way that's

1694
01:39:40,770 --> 01:39:45,180
meaningful. I mean, now there is
a an example I have a son a lot

1695
01:39:45,180 --> 01:39:48,420
it was on the last clip list. It
was last show okay of him

1696
01:39:48,420 --> 01:39:52,500
discussing the education system
calmly and and I don't know if

1697
01:39:52,500 --> 01:39:54,240
it's on this clip list or not
Trump

1698
01:39:54,240 --> 01:39:57,060
Adam Curry: but you have to go
over Trump on education played

1699
01:39:57,060 --> 01:39:57,750
it play this.

1700
01:39:57,870 --> 01:40:02,970
John C Dvorak: This is a policy
discussion that is great never

1701
01:40:02,970 --> 01:40:07,380
got played anywhere. I've
there's other examples of stuff

1702
01:40:07,380 --> 01:40:10,440
like this and it just is not
what they want from Trump.

1703
01:40:10,770 --> 01:40:13,440
Unknown: For many years tuition
costs and colleges and

1704
01:40:13,440 --> 01:40:17,550
universities have been
exploding, and I mean absolutely

1705
01:40:17,550 --> 01:40:21,960
exploding. While academics have
been obsessed with

1706
01:40:21,990 --> 01:40:26,490
indoctrinating America's youth.
The time has come to reclaim our

1707
01:40:26,490 --> 01:40:29,640
once great educational
institutions from the radical

1708
01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:33,120
left and we will do that our
secret weapon will be the

1709
01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:38,370
college accreditation system.
It's called accreditation for a

1710
01:40:38,370 --> 01:40:42,300
reason. The accreditors are
supposed to ensure that schools

1711
01:40:42,300 --> 01:40:46,380
are not ripping off students and
taxpayers but they have failed

1712
01:40:46,470 --> 01:40:49,770
totally. When I returned to the
White House, I will fire the

1713
01:40:49,770 --> 01:40:53,370
radical left to creditors that
have allowed our colleges to

1714
01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:59,250
become dominated by Marxist
Maniacs and lunatics. We will

1715
01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:03,510
then accept applications for new
accreditors who will impose real

1716
01:41:03,510 --> 01:41:08,220
standards on colleges once again
and once and for all. These

1717
01:41:08,220 --> 01:41:11,580
standards will include defending
the American tradition and

1718
01:41:11,580 --> 01:41:16,110
Western civilization, protecting
free speech eliminating wasteful

1719
01:41:16,110 --> 01:41:20,190
administrative positions that
drive up costs incredibly,

1720
01:41:20,670 --> 01:41:25,560
removing all boxes Diversity,
Equity and Inclusion bureaucrats

1721
01:41:25,770 --> 01:41:30,960
offering options for accelerated
at low cost degrees, providing

1722
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:35,130
meaningful job placement and
Career Services and implementing

1723
01:41:35,130 --> 01:41:38,670
college entrance and exit exams
to prove that students are

1724
01:41:38,670 --> 01:41:41,880
actually learning and getting
their money's worth.

1725
01:41:42,180 --> 01:41:45,390
Furthermore, I will direct the
Department of Justice to pursue

1726
01:41:45,390 --> 01:41:49,200
federal civil rights cases
against schools that continue to

1727
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:53,640
engage in racial discrimination.
And schools that persist and

1728
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:58,680
explicit unlawful discrimination
under the guise of equity will

1729
01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:02,730
not only have their endowment
stacks, but through budget

1730
01:42:02,730 --> 01:42:08,070
reconciliation, I will advance a
measure to have them fined up to

1731
01:42:08,070 --> 01:42:12,030
the entire amount of their
endowment. A portion of the C's

1732
01:42:12,030 --> 01:42:15,450
funds will then be used as
restitution for victims of these

1733
01:42:15,450 --> 01:42:20,010
illegal and unjust policies,
policies that hurt our country.

1734
01:42:20,010 --> 01:42:24,360
so badly. Colleges have gotten
hundreds of billions of dollars

1735
01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:28,080
from hard working taxpayers. And
now we are going to get this

1736
01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:33,120
anti American insanity out of
our institutions once and for

1737
01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:38,490
all. We are going to have real
education in America. Thank you.

1738
01:42:39,090 --> 01:42:42,600
Adam Curry: Great policy
statement. Couple problems. One,

1739
01:42:42,900 --> 01:42:48,570
he's dividing left as Democrats,
you know, you know, that if

1740
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:50,550
you're not going to win the
whole country with that same

1741
01:42:50,550 --> 01:42:54,210
with with DeSantis, with his
anti woke stuff, you can I'm not

1742
01:42:54,210 --> 01:42:56,880
against what he's saying. Of
course, of course, the schools

1743
01:42:56,880 --> 01:43:00,840
have become discriminatory, but
the President shouldn't even be

1744
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:04,080
involved in the school in
Fredericksburg, that should be

1745
01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:07,950
the Fredericksburg people. And
to a large degree, they have

1746
01:43:07,950 --> 01:43:10,590
that right and they are actually
taking that you know, they

1747
01:43:10,620 --> 01:43:15,030
they're making use of that. I
think Americans and maybe people

1748
01:43:15,030 --> 01:43:18,150
all over the world are tired of
the government people at the top

1749
01:43:18,150 --> 01:43:20,160
saying we're going to do this
we're gonna fix this we're gonna

1750
01:43:20,160 --> 01:43:23,040
fix that. And they all hang on
for dear life, and nothing

1751
01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:27,840
happens because the President is
not the king. Now and then he

1752
01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:34,800
hires a who would Pritzker
Pritzker do cheval deuces from

1753
01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:39,000
the douche family. I haven't
forgotten that. It just doesn't

1754
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:41,880
make any I like the Marxist
Maniacs and lunatics that are

1755
01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:46,320
like that's clearly a problem.
Now

1756
01:43:46,350 --> 01:43:48,870
John C Dvorak: well, you can't
do much on the local level with

1757
01:43:48,870 --> 01:43:50,700
schools like Harvard it's not
really

1758
01:43:51,120 --> 01:43:53,550
Adam Curry: I understand the
government I understand that but

1759
01:43:53,550 --> 01:43:58,890
just schools in general this
this problem is not well, I

1760
01:43:58,890 --> 01:44:02,520
guess it is because what the
who's who's funding the schools?

1761
01:44:02,550 --> 01:44:06,000
It's it's the big endowment.
That's where all that comes

1762
01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:07,350
from. You can't stop that.

1763
01:44:07,559 --> 01:44:10,439
John C Dvorak: No, no, it's the
high tuitions the endowments are

1764
01:44:10,619 --> 01:44:14,909
accumulating. They're not nobody
in funded. The Italian Downey

1765
01:44:14,909 --> 01:44:15,689
endowment

1766
01:44:15,720 --> 01:44:18,300
Adam Curry: determined the
curriculum. They say we'll give

1767
01:44:18,300 --> 01:44:20,580
you this endowment but you've
got to do this curriculum.

1768
01:44:20,610 --> 01:44:24,540
That's the way I understand it.
But I'm just talking about the

1769
01:44:24,540 --> 01:44:27,330
lower level just the kids who
were being indoctrinated told

1770
01:44:27,330 --> 01:44:29,100
their boys and girls when
they're not.

1771
01:44:29,700 --> 01:44:32,520
John C Dvorak: Well, which
brings me to my top clips here

1772
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:34,350
we talk talk to talk.

1773
01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:38,700
Adam Curry: Before we go there,
kind of just say one thing

1774
01:44:38,700 --> 01:44:40,920
someone gave me a theory that I
thought was really interesting

1775
01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:46,530
just relating to the the Biden
crime family. What if 10% for

1776
01:44:46,530 --> 01:44:52,890
the big guy? What if the big guy
is Obama? And we're just miss

1777
01:44:52,890 --> 01:44:55,020
misinterpreting that to be Joe
Biden.

1778
01:44:57,660 --> 01:44:59,820
John C Dvorak: Well, here's the
reason I don't think that's the

1779
01:44:59,820 --> 01:45:05,730
case. So I liked it. Because
because Obama's a newbie came in

1780
01:45:05,730 --> 01:45:09,780
out of the out of the blue is a
good coordinator from some

1781
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:15,720
charities in Chicago. Biden goes
back 50 years and they're one of

1782
01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:18,030
the most corrupt states of the
country,

1783
01:45:18,060 --> 01:45:21,720
Adam Curry: Delaware. Good
point. Okay. I'm just throwing

1784
01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:24,480
it out there. Just that we got
to keep it. There's a thread

1785
01:45:24,510 --> 01:45:25,200
somewhere there's

1786
01:45:25,230 --> 01:45:28,920
John C Dvorak: maybe that that
during the Obama administration

1787
01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:33,180
Biden was running it for all we
know could be a fact that let me

1788
01:45:33,180 --> 01:45:35,790
get off track and go away from
tick tock for a minute and bring

1789
01:45:35,790 --> 01:45:42,120
it up. I have this this thesis
about Biden always being a gun

1790
01:45:42,120 --> 01:45:45,330
day, you know, the, the chin,
the guy around the gentle AC

1791
01:45:45,330 --> 01:45:46,590
Family walked around the

1792
01:45:47,190 --> 01:45:48,990
Adam Curry: village and dance
peeing his pants in

1793
01:45:48,990 --> 01:45:52,530
John C Dvorak: his underwear,
mumbling to himself, made me

1794
01:45:52,620 --> 01:45:55,110
listen to this clip. This is
Brooks on the Biden

1795
01:45:56,430 --> 01:45:57,660
Adam Curry: books. On the Biden

1796
01:45:57,720 --> 01:46:00,090
Unknown: point, President Biden
told reporters today that he has

1797
01:46:00,090 --> 01:46:02,370
not talked to the Attorney
General about this case and will

1798
01:46:02,370 --> 01:46:03,360
not talk to him about it.

1799
01:46:03,390 --> 01:46:05,640
And that's not really
appropriate. I would say even

1800
01:46:06,030 --> 01:46:09,870
longer term though I do think
Biden is still under exposed. I

1801
01:46:09,870 --> 01:46:13,890
think his staff is still over
protective of him. And he's much

1802
01:46:13,890 --> 01:46:18,090
smarter in public than a lot of
people think, and private. And

1803
01:46:18,090 --> 01:46:21,150
so I do think they need to let
him get out more because it's

1804
01:46:21,150 --> 01:46:23,430
just not good for the
presidency, for him to be that

1805
01:46:23,430 --> 01:46:26,670
much in the shadow of Donald
Trump. And that's been even

1806
01:46:26,670 --> 01:46:27,450
without the indictment.

1807
01:46:27,480 --> 01:46:29,880
Couldn't he tell them that?
Could he tell his staff that if

1808
01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:32,550
he felt that way? It's been said
to me that the President

1809
01:46:32,550 --> 01:46:34,530
believes that when you empower
people to do their jobs, you

1810
01:46:34,530 --> 01:46:37,260
listen to their advice, but if
he agreed with you, couldn't you

1811
01:46:37,260 --> 01:46:38,190
tell them hey, I

1812
01:46:38,190 --> 01:46:39,330
don't need to be so protected.

1813
01:46:39,540 --> 01:46:42,150
You would think so. And I will
say from what I hear inside the

1814
01:46:42,150 --> 01:46:45,000
White House, he's not a
doddering old grandpa. He's like

1815
01:46:45,000 --> 01:46:48,780
could be a very tough mean guy,
a very harsh boss sometimes. So

1816
01:46:48,780 --> 01:46:51,750
he couldn't say that but you
know, he might he might be

1817
01:46:51,750 --> 01:46:56,280
trusted and maybe he wants to be
as quiet and frankly as as

1818
01:46:56,280 --> 01:46:58,200
closed in as he has been.

1819
01:46:59,070 --> 01:47:02,670
Adam Curry: You've this has been
your theory previously about the

1820
01:47:02,670 --> 01:47:05,670
agenda of AC What is it the the
old mafia guy?

1821
01:47:06,150 --> 01:47:09,480
John C Dvorak: Yeah, gigante. I
like it.

1822
01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:14,520
Adam Curry: i To me, it feels
like there's a thread somewhere

1823
01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:17,520
and it was someone pulls this
one thread it all comes.

1824
01:47:17,820 --> 01:47:21,120
Everything comes undone and I
think the only way If he truly

1825
01:47:21,120 --> 01:47:26,580
is the mob boss, and he's really
he is the big guy. He has to

1826
01:47:26,580 --> 01:47:34,290
call the hit on Hunter. Then out
of the blue and I'll be waiting

1827
01:47:34,290 --> 01:47:37,530
with your theory someone's got
to do it. Hunters a liability.

1828
01:47:38,760 --> 01:47:40,980
John C Dvorak: Liability. I'm
not done. There's no denying

1829
01:47:40,980 --> 01:47:41,910
that you know,

1830
01:47:41,910 --> 01:47:46,860
Adam Curry: and and if I love my
son, Mm hmm. So no one wants to

1831
01:47:46,860 --> 01:47:49,590
kill Hunter. I'm just theorizing
here.

1832
01:47:50,100 --> 01:47:54,780
John C Dvorak: No, I'm it. It's
a mob thing. It's a mob thing

1833
01:47:54,780 --> 01:47:55,350
would happen

1834
01:47:55,380 --> 01:47:58,020
Adam Curry: and and beef is
truly the Abraham here of the

1835
01:47:58,020 --> 01:48:03,300
mob family. He's gonna have to
sacrifice his kid. He's gonna

1836
01:48:03,300 --> 01:48:07,770
have to do it. If he does that,
then okay, well, by the way,

1837
01:48:07,770 --> 01:48:09,780
then it's all over. Then
America's done for

1838
01:48:10,230 --> 01:48:14,370
John C Dvorak: well. We're gonna
go back to play to talk thing

1839
01:48:14,370 --> 01:48:16,650
again. We're reset tock tock,
tick tock

1840
01:48:19,740 --> 01:48:21,000
Adam Curry: where we're
resetting everybody.

1841
01:48:21,030 --> 01:48:26,280
John C Dvorak: Now, before we
again, I'm gonna do a site. I'm

1842
01:48:26,280 --> 01:48:29,940
going to do before we play any
of these top tips. I want to

1843
01:48:29,940 --> 01:48:34,260
play something that Mimi got for
me. Okay. This is no you have to

1844
01:48:34,260 --> 01:48:37,500
remember this is millions and
millions of kids used to love

1845
01:48:37,500 --> 01:48:38,460
Mr. Rogers.

1846
01:48:38,490 --> 01:48:41,280
Adam Curry: It's a beautiful day
in the neighborhood. Of course,

1847
01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:42,720
I used to watch Mr. Rogers.

1848
01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:45,300
John C Dvorak: And you know, it
has to miss it. It had to have

1849
01:48:45,300 --> 01:48:51,000
some influence. I want to play
this is a song from one of his

1850
01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:54,360
albums and like any obvious I
never watched him mostly. I

1851
01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:58,530
don't know. I missed him. Yeah,
I couldn't put up with him.

1852
01:49:00,330 --> 01:49:02,790
Adam Curry: You were a rambling
teenager. That's why

1853
01:49:02,790 --> 01:49:05,820
John C Dvorak: I'm telling you.
So. But listen to this Mr.

1854
01:49:05,820 --> 01:49:06,540
Rogers selling

1855
01:49:06,600 --> 01:49:12,690
Unknown: some are fancy on the
outside. Some are fancy on the

1856
01:49:12,690 --> 01:49:19,590
inside. Everybody's fancy.
Everybody's fine. Your body's

1857
01:49:19,590 --> 01:49:25,890
fancy. And so is my boys are
boys from the beginning. When

1858
01:49:25,890 --> 01:49:30,180
you're born a boy baby, you grow
up to be a bigger boy. And then

1859
01:49:30,180 --> 01:49:35,760
a man. Girls are girls right
from the start. When you're born

1860
01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:40,260
a girl baby. You grow up to be a
bigger girl, and then a woman.

1861
01:49:40,920 --> 01:49:47,400
Everybody's fancy. Everybody's
fine. Your body's fancy. And so

1862
01:49:47,520 --> 01:49:54,900
is my girls grow up to be the
mommy. boys grow up to be the

1863
01:49:54,900 --> 01:50:02,010
daddy. Everybody's fancy.
Everybody's fun. If your body's

1864
01:50:02,010 --> 01:50:04,470
fancy, and so is my

1865
01:50:05,040 --> 01:50:06,900
Adam Curry: heresy I tell you
heresy

1866
01:50:09,960 --> 01:50:13,770
John C Dvorak: bruising a gig K
cruisin for a cancellation

1867
01:50:15,269 --> 01:50:16,199
Unknown: he's dead

1868
01:50:18,150 --> 01:50:19,860
John C Dvorak: he's dead so
let's go with

1869
01:50:21,990 --> 01:50:24,750
Adam Curry: Thank you Mimi for
throwing us off track is going

1870
01:50:24,750 --> 01:50:26,580
back to some crazy people on Tik
Tok

1871
01:50:26,969 --> 01:50:30,599
John C Dvorak: go back to the
net balls and boy are they in

1872
01:50:30,599 --> 01:50:35,039
this case now here's a noodle
boy guy he's a I don't know what

1873
01:50:35,039 --> 01:50:37,679
he's non binary just I don't
know what his pronouns are her

1874
01:50:37,679 --> 01:50:42,869
pronouns or whatever she has but
nose ring right through the you

1875
01:50:42,869 --> 01:50:46,499
know the middle one and they're
like the cow and big giant

1876
01:50:46,499 --> 01:50:51,359
earrings and wild makeup and
here he goes is the Asheville

1877
01:50:51,359 --> 01:50:51,989
noodle boy

1878
01:50:52,050 --> 01:50:55,290
Unknown: up until yesterday, I
worked at blend pretzels I asked

1879
01:50:55,290 --> 01:50:59,070
the general manager to stand up
for trans rights and against our

1880
01:50:59,070 --> 01:51:04,080
genocide. And he laughed in my
face the owner. His father is a

1881
01:51:04,080 --> 01:51:08,880
Nazi his son is the general
manager. I've spent nearly a

1882
01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:13,740
year expending so much emotional
labor trying to make sure that

1883
01:51:13,740 --> 01:51:18,150
I'm safe including having three
hour conversations with the

1884
01:51:18,150 --> 01:51:21,750
general manager about why rate
isn't funny. He has sat there

1885
01:51:21,750 --> 01:51:25,470
and watched the owner be
transphobic to me, he also

1886
01:51:25,500 --> 01:51:29,340
watched and supported while he
paid me less than everybody else

1887
01:51:29,340 --> 01:51:33,480
if you are in the Nashville area
or Buncombe County, do not

1888
01:51:33,510 --> 01:51:36,360
support blunt pretzels if you
support trans people.

1889
01:51:36,570 --> 01:51:39,900
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, well,
this is clearly mentally

1890
01:51:39,900 --> 01:51:42,480
disturbed, momentarily mentally
disturbed

1891
01:51:44,010 --> 01:51:47,550
John C Dvorak: or permanently
numb. Here's a here's a woman

1892
01:51:47,550 --> 01:51:53,160
this is the armpit girl has a
short clip she just went on it's

1893
01:51:53,160 --> 01:51:57,330
just to show that she has armpit
hairy armpits to get hairy

1894
01:51:57,330 --> 01:52:01,590
armpits is a big deal to her.
But you have to note that she

1895
01:52:01,590 --> 01:52:06,000
has a completely she bought
perfectly shaved bald head has

1896
01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:13,110
been shaved the shaved bald head
and the armpits and she's been

1897
01:52:13,290 --> 01:52:14,610
here's the clip.

1898
01:52:14,820 --> 01:52:17,040
Unknown: So I have this thing
called a little quirk if you

1899
01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:20,850
will. I have hair in my armpit.
I have it there for a few

1900
01:52:20,850 --> 01:52:26,400
reasons. One lazy to fuck the
patriarchy and fury. Your

1901
01:52:26,400 --> 01:52:30,150
response to them? tells me
everything I need to know about

1902
01:52:30,150 --> 01:52:32,970
you. Yeah,

1903
01:52:33,030 --> 01:52:38,400
John C Dvorak: this is the thing
is a bit lazy if she sewed keep

1904
01:52:38,400 --> 01:52:43,830
her head bald. Yeah. But she's
lazy. She says yeah, that's

1905
01:52:43,860 --> 01:52:44,610
that's bullcrap. I

1906
01:52:44,610 --> 01:52:48,060
Adam Curry: mean, this is. I
have different I have multiple

1907
01:52:48,060 --> 01:52:51,750
thoughts about that. I remember
moving to Europe in the 70s and

1908
01:52:51,750 --> 01:52:56,760
my mom being horrified. These
women have hairy pits and hairy

1909
01:52:56,760 --> 01:52:57,660
legs.

1910
01:52:58,259 --> 01:53:00,269
Unknown: Got airy lay eggs.

1911
01:53:01,560 --> 01:53:04,440
Adam Curry: So that's that
doesn't bother me. I mean, you

1912
01:53:04,440 --> 01:53:04,800
know,

1913
01:53:05,430 --> 01:53:07,410
John C Dvorak: if you saw this
wish he'd been no,

1914
01:53:07,410 --> 01:53:09,660
Adam Curry: I liked it. You're
sitting at home watching this

1915
01:53:09,660 --> 01:53:12,330
and going and getting all worked
up over it. I kind of like that

1916
01:53:12,330 --> 01:53:16,050
or just like that. Like I'm
gonna make a clip out of this.

1917
01:53:16,080 --> 01:53:19,470
John C Dvorak: And luckily, by
the way, by the way, I should

1918
01:53:19,470 --> 01:53:22,860
mention that now because I've
been doing these I'm now I don't

1919
01:53:22,860 --> 01:53:26,880
have to do any work. Because
they are being sent to me. It's

1920
01:53:26,880 --> 01:53:27,570
just magic.

1921
01:53:27,600 --> 01:53:30,330
Adam Curry: Yeah. And you're
like, Oh, right. I can't. I've

1922
01:53:30,330 --> 01:53:32,520
got all the clips I need. I've
got them all.

1923
01:53:32,850 --> 01:53:35,550
John C Dvorak: So here's the
queer author this this is a long

1924
01:53:35,550 --> 01:53:37,110
clip. I'm gonna skip this. Oh,

1925
01:53:37,110 --> 01:53:38,910
Adam Curry: thank you long. I
don't know if I can handle a

1926
01:53:38,910 --> 01:53:39,510
long clip.

1927
01:53:39,540 --> 01:53:41,670
John C Dvorak: Let's listen to
the white supremacy clip.

1928
01:53:41,790 --> 01:53:45,810
Unknown: This commenter says I'm
perfectly fine with fat people.

1929
01:53:46,200 --> 01:53:52,710
But WTF do you mean, Aryan that
phobia and racism are two

1930
01:53:52,710 --> 01:53:58,440
completely separate things. But
they're not all bigotry, and our

1931
01:53:58,440 --> 01:54:03,450
culture is rooted in white
supremacy. White supremacy so

1932
01:54:03,450 --> 01:54:07,260
that's my ideal and adding
deviation from that ideal is

1933
01:54:07,260 --> 01:54:11,670
discriminated against. Obviously
this goes for a race, but it

1934
01:54:11,670 --> 01:54:16,260
also includes the person's size
and our culture, the skinny

1935
01:54:16,260 --> 01:54:21,420
people are upheld as the ideal.
There's also racism behind why

1936
01:54:21,420 --> 01:54:26,040
skinniness is considered the
ideal because as white women we

1937
01:54:26,040 --> 01:54:30,630
want to set ourselves apart from
black women who stereotypically

1938
01:54:30,660 --> 01:54:35,520
have curvier bodies. All bodies
are beautiful, but white

1939
01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:40,200
supremacy needs to hold up a
singular ideal in order to

1940
01:54:40,200 --> 01:54:41,520
maintain control.

1941
01:54:42,180 --> 01:54:44,850
Adam Curry: Yeah, this is just
this is the this is the

1942
01:54:44,850 --> 01:54:51,270
education system. The and the
media and tick tock probably and

1943
01:54:51,270 --> 01:54:56,520
you know this white supremacy,
whereas throughout history in

1944
01:54:56,520 --> 01:54:59,940
the Reubens period when the
thick women were found beautiful

1945
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:04,050
in the black community thick
girls are are more desired than

1946
01:55:04,050 --> 01:55:07,260
thin girls. It changes it
changes over time. And we

1947
01:55:07,260 --> 01:55:09,150
fluctuate this flux. Thank you.
It's

1948
01:55:09,750 --> 01:55:11,070
John C Dvorak: a fashion. Yes,

1949
01:55:11,100 --> 01:55:12,900
Adam Curry: it's called a
fashion. Now of course, there's

1950
01:55:12,900 --> 01:55:15,420
some health issues that come in
at a certain point. But you

1951
01:55:15,420 --> 01:55:18,900
know, that's why we have
ozempic, which we'll get to

1952
01:55:18,930 --> 01:55:22,320
after we think some people but
before the since you led me down

1953
01:55:22,320 --> 01:55:24,870
this path, I do need to discuss
a couple of

1954
01:55:25,050 --> 01:55:27,870
John C Dvorak: them before I get
to I get one, at least play one

1955
01:55:27,870 --> 01:55:33,420
push back clip. And this is the
pride push ban in Massachusetts.

1956
01:55:33,810 --> 01:55:36,840
And even though you could tell
that to the reporters on the

1957
01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:40,920
news channel, were horrified.
Horrified by this woman who's

1958
01:55:40,920 --> 01:55:42,150
making nothing but sense

1959
01:55:42,270 --> 01:55:45,480
Unknown: these displays of
intolerance and homophobia are

1960
01:55:45,480 --> 01:55:48,480
unacceptable if this type of
intolerant rhetoric starts in

1961
01:55:48,480 --> 01:55:48,870
the home,

1962
01:55:48,900 --> 01:55:53,010
parents angry at townhall over
intolerance at Marshall Simon's

1963
01:55:53,010 --> 01:55:56,430
middle school, kids were asked
to wear rainbow clothes in honor

1964
01:55:56,430 --> 01:56:00,420
of pride Spirit Day, but some
organized a counter protest

1965
01:56:00,510 --> 01:56:03,930
wearing red, white and blue or
black. The principal sharing a

1966
01:56:03,930 --> 01:56:07,050
statement to families that pride
posters were ripped down

1967
01:56:07,080 --> 01:56:11,940
stickers ripped up some students
chanted USA are my pronouns and

1968
01:56:11,940 --> 01:56:14,700
students showing pride were
intimidated. It was

1969
01:56:14,700 --> 01:56:19,170
an unruly disruption. In fact,
that was organized ahead of time

1970
01:56:19,200 --> 01:56:22,920
while some parents were upset.
Others say it was overblown.

1971
01:56:22,950 --> 01:56:25,260
Some of the kids threw the
stickers on the ground. But you

1972
01:56:25,260 --> 01:56:27,840
know, I can only speak for my
daughter she just she didn't

1973
01:56:27,840 --> 01:56:30,060
want to wear that to school.
It's not that she wanted to hurt

1974
01:56:30,060 --> 01:56:30,960
anybody's feelings.

1975
01:56:30,990 --> 01:56:34,020
She says her daughter felt
coerced to participate in the

1976
01:56:34,020 --> 01:56:37,890
Pride event and was offended by
some of the messages like this

1977
01:56:37,890 --> 01:56:39,390
quote from Tennessee Williams

1978
01:56:39,420 --> 01:56:42,720
human heart cannot be straight
it is curves and winds and my

1979
01:56:42,720 --> 01:56:45,390
daughter just kind of said you
know mom, that's that's

1980
01:56:45,390 --> 01:56:47,940
offensive to me who I am
straight.

1981
01:56:47,940 --> 01:56:50,790
But even parents like her
opposed to the Pride Month

1982
01:56:50,790 --> 01:56:53,940
celebration, say the ripping of
posters was wrong.

1983
01:56:53,970 --> 01:56:58,170
I think destructing any property
is wrong. I think you know, that

1984
01:56:58,170 --> 01:56:59,760
I just think that was wrong.
parents

1985
01:56:59,760 --> 01:57:02,880
and community groups now calling
for the town and school board to

1986
01:57:02,880 --> 01:57:06,270
act and support diversity,
equity and inclusion, the

1987
01:57:06,270 --> 01:57:09,660
incident sparking discussion at
home on both sides.

1988
01:57:09,690 --> 01:57:14,070
My thing that I teach my kids is
just be kind. And I wish the

1989
01:57:14,070 --> 01:57:16,830
schools would just kind of pump
the brakes on what they're

1990
01:57:16,830 --> 01:57:18,270
showing Greg Stokes,

1991
01:57:18,300 --> 01:57:22,470
the issue of pride in schools is
very controversial. I understand

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that I think we need to start at
a place of commonality.

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Now the principal says that no
one was forced to participate in

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the Pride Day event, but now
parents on both sides want

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dialogue LIVE IN BURLINGTON Sean
shy about WC VB newsletter.

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Adam Curry: Oh, it was nice to
hear people want dialogue

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because this is more of the what
Kennedy calls the wages of war,

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you know, oh, we got to go to
war. We gotta go. I got into war

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against them. Yeah, a couple of
things I want to read before I

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play two clips here. As so it's
unraveling a little bit. The the

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transitioning of children is
starting to unravel. We're

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seeing clips coming out of the
UK when I didn't I didn't get

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those clips, probably seen as
like another one is outrageous

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things on social media. stuff.
Yeah. The kid says, hey, you

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know, you can't identify as a
cat. There's only two genders.

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The kid gets kicked out. The
teacher comes in and says, you

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know, this is this is what the
authority says the authority

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says, then you can be anything
you want. And you should 13 year

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olds. Yeah. So this is the
problem with government in your

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school, is your government
shouldn't be telling you,

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whether it's whether you agree
with it or not. The government

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should be telling you how to how
your children should be learning

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or what they should be learning
but that's up to up to you if

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you want that. In 2016 there was
a big MTV reality show about

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01:58:47,010 --> 01:58:52,200
this kid called Milo and Milo
was oh it was born a girl but

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01:58:52,200 --> 01:58:55,350
was definitely going to be a boy
and it was you know, just went

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01:58:55,350 --> 01:58:59,880
all through the transitioning
and now Milo is back after what

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01:58:59,880 --> 01:59:05,400
is it? Eight nine years.
distraught. I can never have

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01:59:05,400 --> 01:59:10,050
kids again. I regret getting
hormone injections. my ovaries

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01:59:10,050 --> 01:59:15,630
are dead. It's horrible,
horrible things. Elliott page

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01:59:15,660 --> 01:59:20,220
used to be Ellen Page came out
with his interview and just I

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01:59:20,220 --> 01:59:25,110
mean it's so it's so horrific.
This child was abused in

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01:59:25,110 --> 01:59:28,890
Hollywood sexually abused and
then you know therapist said all

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you clearly a boy will fix that
right up and anyone with the

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01:59:32,010 --> 01:59:36,660
sound mind who reads this? Can
see like No, no, no, there's

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01:59:36,660 --> 01:59:39,090
something else going on with
this person. There's a

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01:59:39,090 --> 01:59:42,630
whistleblower now that exposes
the hospital for performing sex

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01:59:42,630 --> 01:59:45,210
chain surgeries on minors. I
mean, it's all coming out.

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People are not all in lockstep
on this, no matter what the

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media thinks, no matter what
politicians think. And even if

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the movie theaters think that
they can ban me to here's the

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clip.

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Unknown: Now the film's producer
say that AMC theaters abruptly

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02:00:01,049 --> 02:00:03,569
canceled all screenings of the
documentary caving to the

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02:00:03,569 --> 02:00:07,889
demands of a trans rights group,
AMC Theaters declining to

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02:00:07,889 --> 02:00:10,919
comment on the record about
their decision to pull the

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02:00:10,919 --> 02:00:11,489
release.

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02:00:11,610 --> 02:00:13,230
Adam Curry: Now, what's
interesting about this is this

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02:00:13,230 --> 02:00:18,690
movie has just been rebranded to
be put into into theaters. It's

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called No way back the reality
of gender affirming care. It is

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02:00:23,550 --> 02:00:26,550
the exact same movie as
affirmation, generation

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affirmation, which you can get
on YouTube. So you know,

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02:00:30,720 --> 02:00:33,120
everyone's kind of in it for
their own reasons, I guess. But

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02:00:33,120 --> 02:00:37,200
then this happened in Arkansas,
as you know, these horrible

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genocidal anti trans laws are
being put in by Republicans who

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02:00:43,290 --> 02:00:48,360
are Nazis. Now judges are
overturning them. And Amy

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02:00:48,360 --> 02:00:53,130
Goodman, I have to say
unfortunate morning, Amy Goodman

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02:00:53,130 --> 02:00:59,160
Clifton bound report that was
usable, usable for US

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02:00:59,190 --> 02:01:01,680
Unknown: federal judges struck
down Arkansas first in the

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02:01:01,680 --> 02:01:04,770
nation ban on gender affirming
care for transgender youth.

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02:01:05,100 --> 02:01:09,000
Judge James moody Jr. ruled the
ban to be unconstitutional

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02:01:09,000 --> 02:01:12,150
because it discriminates against
transgender people and violates

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02:01:12,150 --> 02:01:15,540
the rights of doctors. In his
decision. Moody wrote, quote,

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rather than protecting children
or safeguarding methods of

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02:01:18,660 --> 02:01:22,650
medical ethics, the evidence
showed the prohibited medical

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02:01:22,650 --> 02:01:26,730
care improves the mental health
and well being of patients. And

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02:01:26,730 --> 02:01:29,970
that by prohibiting it, the
state undermine the interests

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02:01:29,970 --> 02:01:33,990
that claims to be advancing. One
quote, one of the plaintiffs who

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02:01:33,990 --> 02:01:37,230
sued our console for the ban was
a 17 year old trans student

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02:01:37,230 --> 02:01:39,930
named Dylan Brandt, who
responded to the ruling by

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02:01:39,930 --> 02:01:44,040
saying, quote, transgender kids
across the country are having

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02:01:44,040 --> 02:01:47,970
their own futures threatened by
laws like this one, and it's up

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to all of us to speak out, fight
back and give them hope.

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Unquote.

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02:01:52,740 --> 02:01:57,000
Adam Curry: So I looked at the
judge's opinion. And the judge's

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02:01:57,000 --> 02:02:03,300
opinion literally says, the
science is in that children who

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02:02:03,330 --> 02:02:08,100
who get the affirm the gender
affirming care they deserve.

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02:02:09,750 --> 02:02:13,920
Dude who will not commit
suicide? And so we can you can

2069
02:02:13,920 --> 02:02:18,300
boil down this whole debate to
the truth of the matter. To what

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02:02:18,300 --> 02:02:23,850
does the science really say? And
then the the abstraction of that

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02:02:23,880 --> 02:02:29,280
is would you rather have a dead
daughter or living son or a dead

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02:02:29,280 --> 02:02:32,370
son or living daughter but it's
usually a dead daughter living

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02:02:32,370 --> 02:02:36,690
song because it's a percentage
the girls so that is the SIOP

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02:02:37,200 --> 02:02:42,930
because the actual science is
only three years old. That's a

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02:02:42,930 --> 02:02:43,200
joke.

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02:02:44,280 --> 02:02:46,350
John C Dvorak: The other thing
is interesting, as they

2077
02:02:46,410 --> 02:02:49,620
obviously this, this case,
dependent on the whatever the

2078
02:02:49,650 --> 02:02:51,390
expert witness was,

2079
02:02:51,870 --> 02:02:54,900
Adam Curry: I can tell you it is
the Arkansas chapter of American

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02:02:54,900 --> 02:02:58,050
Academy of Pediatrics, the
Arkansas Academy of Pediatrics,

2081
02:02:58,050 --> 02:03:01,740
the American College of OB GYN,
the American Academy of Child,

2082
02:03:01,740 --> 02:03:04,830
Adolescent psychologists, the
American Academy of Child and

2083
02:03:04,830 --> 02:03:07,380
Adolescent Psychiatry, the
Arkansas Psychological

2084
02:03:07,380 --> 02:03:09,810
Association, and other
scientific and medical

2085
02:03:09,840 --> 02:03:13,860
organizations who all recognize
the effectiveness and safety of

2086
02:03:13,860 --> 02:03:18,000
gender affirming medical care.
The studies are only Max three

2087
02:03:18,000 --> 02:03:24,090
years old. That's who they have
as their expert witnesses. So

2088
02:03:24,120 --> 02:03:28,320
fine. Maybe you should look at
Europe who've had who have

2089
02:03:28,320 --> 02:03:32,310
literally come out and said,
there is no there are no long

2090
02:03:32,310 --> 02:03:37,380
term studies that show this and
in fact that it's 19% of people

2091
02:03:37,380 --> 02:03:43,050
transition, wind up suicidal. So
it's it's phony baloney science,

2092
02:03:43,050 --> 02:03:48,270
it's just like the jab will you
know it's 80% effective 70 6050

2093
02:03:48,510 --> 02:03:51,330
You won't get horribly ill you
won't be in the hospital get a

2094
02:03:51,330 --> 02:03:55,170
booster. It's because people
believe a

2095
02:03:55,170 --> 02:03:59,460
John C Dvorak: medical system
that allows this to develop in

2096
02:03:59,460 --> 02:04:01,740
this way is corrupted.

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02:04:01,950 --> 02:04:06,180
Adam Curry: Yes. And personally,
I think look, if your kids are

2098
02:04:06,180 --> 02:04:10,620
minor, and you're all in on this
and you want to abuse your kid

2099
02:04:11,700 --> 02:04:14,700
How about it? If you're all in
and you're there every single

2100
02:04:14,700 --> 02:04:18,390
step of the way? Well, then
you're you're just then that'll

2101
02:04:18,390 --> 02:04:21,630
be up to you and your your
parent and whatever else. Your

2102
02:04:21,630 --> 02:04:22,230
kids

2103
02:04:24,000 --> 02:04:26,160
John C Dvorak: some of these
kids go on a murder spree

2104
02:04:26,190 --> 02:04:28,470
Adam Curry: well, but you can't
you can't have schools doing

2105
02:04:28,470 --> 02:04:31,500
this any of this schools now who
are doing this on the sly

2106
02:04:31,680 --> 02:04:34,500
Midwest, teachers trade tips on
subversively, in quietly

2107
02:04:34,500 --> 02:04:37,380
transitioning kids without
telling parents, that's the

2108
02:04:37,380 --> 02:04:40,830
stuff that should be outlawed.
But if you really think you're a

2109
02:04:40,830 --> 02:04:44,220
good parent out, I'd have at it,
but then be ready for the

2110
02:04:44,220 --> 02:04:48,510
consequences. So you know, I can
understand why these laws are

2111
02:04:48,510 --> 02:04:51,630
seen as unconstitutional. If the
if there's parental consent,

2112
02:04:51,660 --> 02:04:55,050
what are you going to do, but
they should at least go out and

2113
02:04:55,050 --> 02:04:58,140
get some good information. And
the SIOP of would you rather

2114
02:04:58,140 --> 02:05:01,050
I've seen it happen so many
times Do you want a dead

2115
02:05:01,050 --> 02:05:05,340
daughter or a living son? And
and it Oh, they'll he'll be

2116
02:05:05,370 --> 02:05:07,620
he'll commit suicide if you
don't give this to your

2117
02:05:07,620 --> 02:05:13,950
daughter. That is just factually
not true. And so there's no

2118
02:05:13,950 --> 02:05:17,940
other debate really. There's
just no other debate. That's all

2119
02:05:17,940 --> 02:05:21,420
that it has to be. And so what
this has gone is you know, now

2120
02:05:21,420 --> 02:05:25,740
we're down to the book bannings
which is also something that

2121
02:05:25,740 --> 02:05:30,150
only my favorite people in Utah,
the you know, that 90 parent

2122
02:05:30,150 --> 02:05:32,730
went in and said, and they got
the Bible taken out of the

2123
02:05:32,730 --> 02:05:37,890
school because it has horrible
horrific things in it, which is

2124
02:05:37,890 --> 02:05:43,560
true. That's an interesting move
they made and it just it got

2125
02:05:43,560 --> 02:05:48,960
overturned and the Bible is
back. But yeah, I mean, so it's

2126
02:05:49,530 --> 02:05:53,430
history like is slick is very
tricky. But the bottom line is

2127
02:05:53,460 --> 02:05:58,230
the science is just not in on
this stuff. That's all and

2128
02:05:58,230 --> 02:06:02,220
that's what these movies show.
That's the problem. That's what

2129
02:06:02,220 --> 02:06:04,740
the what act whatever.

2130
02:06:04,920 --> 02:06:07,320
John C Dvorak: Banning the
information, there's a giveaway

2131
02:06:07,320 --> 02:06:09,240
there that there's something
amiss. That's

2132
02:06:09,240 --> 02:06:13,440
Adam Curry: exactly right. I
feel like that myself, What are

2133
02:06:13,440 --> 02:06:14,790
you drinking today Johnny Boy,

2134
02:06:15,389 --> 02:06:20,249
John C Dvorak: polar seltzer
100% natural is 100%

2135
02:06:20,250 --> 02:06:20,340
Adam Curry: He

2136
02:06:20,340 --> 02:06:22,680
Unknown: 700 frickin percent and
with

2137
02:06:22,680 --> 02:06:24,180
Adam Curry: that I'd like to
thank you for your courage and

2138
02:06:24,180 --> 02:06:27,570
say in the morning to the man
who put the sea and scandalous

2139
02:06:27,690 --> 02:06:29,880
ladies and gentlemen say hello
to my friend on the other end

2140
02:06:29,880 --> 02:06:31,530
the one and only Mr. Johnson

2141
02:06:35,070 --> 02:06:37,020
John C Dvorak: in the morning to
Mr. Adam curry also in the

2142
02:06:37,020 --> 02:06:40,920
morning no chips to see boots on
the ground air feet near

2143
02:06:40,920 --> 02:06:43,080
substitute boots on the ground
feed the air subs in the water

2144
02:06:43,080 --> 02:06:44,790
and all the names on nights out
there

2145
02:06:49,980 --> 02:06:55,020
Adam Curry: count 19 115 Trolls
at this moment. 1915 So that's

2146
02:06:55,020 --> 02:06:59,310
up for a Sunday. That's good.
All things considered. Seeing as

2147
02:06:59,310 --> 02:07:02,250
we lost at least five people in
that sub he said subs in the

2148
02:07:02,250 --> 02:07:04,290
water. I don't know if they're
gonna hear it, John. They ran

2149
02:07:04,290 --> 02:07:06,690
out of air this morning. It's
not good. I thought

2150
02:07:06,690 --> 02:07:08,700
John C Dvorak: today was
Thursday. Yeah, Thursday. That's

2151
02:07:08,730 --> 02:07:10,200
did i What did I say? said
Sunday.

2152
02:07:11,820 --> 02:07:15,390
Adam Curry: I'm on drugs. You
know what? It's

2153
02:07:15,390 --> 02:07:16,050
John C Dvorak: a lousy. No.

2154
02:07:16,080 --> 02:07:17,820
Adam Curry: It's a shoot sick
crap number. No,

2155
02:07:17,820 --> 02:07:19,650
John C Dvorak: no, I'm sorry.
It's a good number. Sunday's is

2156
02:07:19,650 --> 02:07:20,310
lousy number.

2157
02:07:20,490 --> 02:07:23,100
Adam Curry: It would be lousy.
Lousy. Yeah, it's a good number

2158
02:07:23,100 --> 02:07:26,310
for Thursday. You know, I had my
new teeth put in Yes. My new

2159
02:07:26,310 --> 02:07:29,160
temps actually. Okay, does that
sound good?

2160
02:07:30,840 --> 02:07:32,880
John C Dvorak: Yes, I'm fine.
Don't sound any different to me.

2161
02:07:32,940 --> 02:07:37,320
Adam Curry: Okay. The I think
I'm more happy right now. I'm

2162
02:07:37,320 --> 02:07:42,090
happier. 1915 Good to have you
here trolls. I want to remind

2163
02:07:42,090 --> 02:07:45,270
everybody that this is the
donation segment. This is where

2164
02:07:45,270 --> 02:07:50,190
we play the special clip, as
well as give you the magic

2165
02:07:50,190 --> 02:07:52,590
number. And we always have our
interview here with our guest of

2166
02:07:52,590 --> 02:07:55,920
the week. So you pretty much
want to stay tuned, because this

2167
02:07:55,920 --> 02:07:58,890
is where all the magic happens.
And it will be a quick one too.

2168
02:08:00,210 --> 02:08:05,700
There'll be a very quick
donation segment. Yeah. If you

2169
02:08:06,030 --> 02:08:08,550
you know a lot of people like I
can't get into troll room should

2170
02:08:08,550 --> 02:08:12,660
I use an IRC client? I don't
know how to work it troll.

2171
02:08:12,660 --> 02:08:16,830
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want to go look something up we

2206
02:10:28,110 --> 02:10:30,840
talked about you can find it.
I'll click on the link, and

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02:10:32,610 --> 02:10:36,240
it'll put this is that a brewed
chicken? Or is that a real

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02:10:36,240 --> 02:10:36,600
chicken?

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John C Dvorak: It's a tumor too.

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02:10:41,550 --> 02:10:44,460
Adam Curry: But we also need
finances, because John and I

2211
02:10:44,460 --> 02:10:48,060
have no other job. And we have
bills to pay. So we appreciate

2212
02:10:48,060 --> 02:10:52,020
everybody and anybody, even if
it's $3 a month, all of that is

2213
02:10:52,020 --> 02:10:56,340
good. The beauty of our system
is you don't have to do it. Now

2214
02:10:56,370 --> 02:11:01,380
we have about 900,000 people a
month, who are listening to the

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02:11:01,380 --> 02:11:05,430
show, and a very small amount,
we have to say like 35 donors

2216
02:11:05,670 --> 02:11:09,270
above the line donors that's
that's a small amount. who are

2217
02:11:09,300 --> 02:11:10,740
supporting us financially?

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02:11:10,950 --> 02:11:13,740
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this we
need the other people to think

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02:11:13,740 --> 02:11:14,220
about it.

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02:11:14,340 --> 02:11:16,710
Adam Curry: Think about it would
be a nice way. Nice way to go.

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02:11:16,710 --> 02:11:19,200
I'm gonna tell you right up
front, the way to learn about

2222
02:11:19,230 --> 02:11:21,840
supporting the show financially
is that this website

2223
02:11:21,870 --> 02:11:25,440
Unknown: vorak.org/and A,

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02:11:25,530 --> 02:11:27,780
Adam Curry: and one of the
important value pieces that we

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02:11:27,780 --> 02:11:31,230
return they receive in return
for the show that that we bring

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02:11:31,230 --> 02:11:34,680
to you twice a week is the
artwork, we'd like to put a new

2227
02:11:34,680 --> 02:11:39,780
piece of artwork into our, into
our, our mp3 and on the

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02:11:39,780 --> 02:11:42,300
promotional things where we say,
Hey, we've got a new show, we

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02:11:42,300 --> 02:11:45,000
feel that looks great. And all
the apps and we are pretty

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02:11:45,000 --> 02:11:48,240
traditional when it comes to you
know, the big holidays, like

2231
02:11:48,240 --> 02:11:52,920
Christmas and Father's Day and
Veterans Day and Mother's Day.

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02:11:53,460 --> 02:11:56,130
And so we always look for
something that's special. I

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02:11:56,130 --> 02:12:02,190
think the choice we made for
episode 1565. We titled it clop

2234
02:12:03,030 --> 02:12:09,150
clop. For the big move it hack
was a Father's Day piece. Even

2235
02:12:09,150 --> 02:12:12,090
though there was kind of the
Father's Day donations were

2236
02:12:12,690 --> 02:12:17,700
little I was less than stellar.
This piece of artwork struck a

2237
02:12:17,700 --> 02:12:21,660
lot of people. The people loved
it. It was done by Francisco

2238
02:12:22,080 --> 02:12:28,320
Scaramanga and it was a little
baby night handing some flowers,

2239
02:12:28,320 --> 02:12:32,310
some wasn't sure if it was
roses, but some red flowers to a

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02:12:32,310 --> 02:12:36,990
daddy night. And it was just the
cutest thing. It was one of the

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02:12:36,990 --> 02:12:40,830
hay was so incredibly cute, and
people really picked up on it.

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02:12:41,100 --> 02:12:44,460
And I think that's why we have
at least 100 people more

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02:12:44,610 --> 02:12:47,580
listening live today than than
we normally had this artwork

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02:12:47,580 --> 02:12:52,140
drew them in, like these guys.
They can't be all Nasi. This

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02:12:52,530 --> 02:12:55,710
Look at this cute picture. So we
appreciate that Francisco

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02:12:55,710 --> 02:13:00,810
Scaramanga and we had a number
of pieces to choose from, which

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02:13:00,810 --> 02:13:03,780
you can follow along while we
discuss this. Actually, I

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02:13:03,960 --> 02:13:06,510
John C Dvorak: think I was
referring something and then we

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02:13:06,510 --> 02:13:10,470
both agreed on this robot. What
was it? Yeah, you can be wrong.

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02:13:10,920 --> 02:13:14,100
Adam Curry: No, you were No,
you'd like to hold on a second.

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02:13:14,130 --> 02:13:15,090
You can find like the

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02:13:15,090 --> 02:13:18,720
John C Dvorak: non birthing
caretaker. I like the the Mao

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02:13:18,870 --> 02:13:26,100
misused monks ship by Perry. Non
happy non burning caregiver day.

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02:13:26,100 --> 02:13:26,430
Yeah,

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02:13:26,460 --> 02:13:28,770
Adam Curry: with my piece I like
Yes. And

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02:13:28,890 --> 02:13:30,600
John C Dvorak: and you just
thought it was a mess. And it

2257
02:13:30,600 --> 02:13:33,750
was in you're colorblind and you
couldn't see it. And it was you

2258
02:13:33,750 --> 02:13:37,500
didn't like it anyway. And then
then you had no other choice.

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02:13:38,160 --> 02:13:38,730
And then

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02:13:39,780 --> 02:13:46,410
Adam Curry: hold on, hold on. I
said it's a mess. But I said

2261
02:13:46,440 --> 02:13:49,980
then I said, but that may be
because it's a lot of dots and

2262
02:13:49,980 --> 02:13:52,950
colors that I have issues with
with my so called color

2263
02:13:52,950 --> 02:13:56,670
blindness. And we kind of left
it at that because then we both

2264
02:13:56,670 --> 02:13:58,560
looked at the Scaramanga piece

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02:13:58,860 --> 02:14:01,620
John C Dvorak: Oh yeah, there's
no dig is hadn't showed it's a

2266
02:14:01,620 --> 02:14:05,550
beautiful piece it really the
one I got my pick was based on

2267
02:14:05,550 --> 02:14:10,710
the humor kind of of it. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. belittling the

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02:14:10,710 --> 02:14:12,030
holiday somewhat.

2269
02:14:13,110 --> 02:14:15,450
Adam Curry: Which is always
Yeah, we don't like to belittle

2270
02:14:15,450 --> 02:14:17,670
the holiday we are tradition.
Heaven forbid

2271
02:14:17,670 --> 02:14:18,300
John C Dvorak: we do that

2272
02:14:18,360 --> 02:14:22,470
Adam Curry: traditional man. You
got the robot you can follow

2273
02:14:22,470 --> 02:14:25,080
along and no agenda art
generator.com You can become an

2274
02:14:25,080 --> 02:14:27,900
artist yourself and just create
an account upload the nodes and

2275
02:14:27,900 --> 02:14:31,410
art generator.com It's not an
easy task. This these artists do

2276
02:14:31,410 --> 02:14:34,860
this while listening live. And
so the minute we're done, no, I

2277
02:14:34,890 --> 02:14:38,340
literally I, I find an opening
clip. And I've marked them

2278
02:14:38,340 --> 02:14:41,610
during the during the show. We
decide on that we do the

2279
02:14:41,610 --> 02:14:44,520
credits, and then we go to the
artwork. And then you know, by

2280
02:14:44,520 --> 02:14:46,230
the end, we hope to have
everything in we give the

2281
02:14:46,230 --> 02:14:50,310
artists a couple extra minutes
there to finish up. So it's not

2282
02:14:50,310 --> 02:14:54,090
an easy thing to do. But if if
you've got the skills, then you

2283
02:14:54,090 --> 02:14:55,020
know that

2284
02:14:56,040 --> 02:14:57,030
John C Dvorak: yeah, it's kind
of

2285
02:14:57,630 --> 02:14:59,970
Adam Curry: Father's Day because
you always get these new sound

2286
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:03,330
machines and then you just
overdo it. use them sparingly.

2287
02:15:03,330 --> 02:15:10,530
This one sounds like a bagpipe
being

2288
02:15:10,560 --> 02:15:13,890
John C Dvorak: a cost. Maybe guy
just for me it is a turkey call.

2289
02:15:13,920 --> 02:15:14,160
Yeah.

2290
02:15:15,360 --> 02:15:16,830
Adam Curry: Because it sounds
like a turkey.

2291
02:15:17,370 --> 02:15:19,380
John C Dvorak: Does you ever do
you get turkeys around here and

2292
02:15:19,380 --> 02:15:20,790
they yell at you they make
noises.

2293
02:15:21,750 --> 02:15:25,110
Adam Curry: Okay, so I want you
to go out after the show and

2294
02:15:25,140 --> 02:15:28,410
Luer a turkey and with that,
okay?

2295
02:15:30,450 --> 02:15:31,950
John C Dvorak: Do we all have
the front yard, I'll take a

2296
02:15:31,950 --> 02:15:32,430
picture.

2297
02:15:32,940 --> 02:15:35,100
Adam Curry: If you're using a
modern podcast app, you'll see

2298
02:15:35,100 --> 02:15:37,710
all of these different pieces of
artwork, as they most of them

2299
02:15:37,710 --> 02:15:40,410
get displayed in the chapters,
which Dred Scott does for us

2300
02:15:40,410 --> 02:15:43,950
another great valuable addition
to the show. And we appreciate

2301
02:15:43,950 --> 02:15:46,230
that. So when you're driving,
you will see these just, you

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02:15:46,230 --> 02:15:50,010
know, changing as as chapters
and topics change and he takes a

2303
02:15:50,010 --> 02:15:52,890
lot of the artwork from no
agenda, and probably most of the

2304
02:15:52,890 --> 02:15:54,780
artwork from no agenda Art
Generator. So thank you very

2305
02:15:54,780 --> 02:15:58,560
much, Francisco Scaramanga and
all of the artists who submit

2306
02:15:58,560 --> 02:16:02,010
their work, we appreciate it,
and we hope everybody gets their

2307
02:16:02,010 --> 02:16:05,010
shot at the leaderboard, no
agenda, art generator.com. Now

2308
02:16:05,010 --> 02:16:08,100
let us thank our executive and
Associate Executive producers

2309
02:16:08,100 --> 02:16:17,640
for episode 1566 $200 and above,
or $3,300 and above is Executive

2310
02:16:17,640 --> 02:16:20,610
Producer 200. Above is Associate
Executive Producers these are

2311
02:16:20,610 --> 02:16:25,680
credits that you keep for
eternity. They are real credits,

2312
02:16:25,680 --> 02:16:27,780
so you can use them anywhere.
It's no different from the

2313
02:16:27,780 --> 02:16:30,690
Hollywood stuff. There is a
difference actually will vouch

2314
02:16:30,690 --> 02:16:34,290
for you. If if someone ever
questions that you are an

2315
02:16:34,290 --> 02:16:37,710
executive or Associate Executive
Producer of the no agenda show

2316
02:16:37,710 --> 02:16:41,400
and the episode will always do
that for you and we kick it off

2317
02:16:41,400 --> 02:16:49,350
with Stephen Hutto from St.
Petersburg, Florida $452 And I'm

2318
02:16:49,350 --> 02:16:53,820
not sure why that amount but he
sent us a picture of his

2319
02:16:53,820 --> 02:17:02,280
odometer which said
33,300 33,300 miles and he says

2320
02:17:02,280 --> 02:17:04,770
I knew it was time to donate
when I saw the odometer courtesy

2321
02:17:04,770 --> 02:17:11,820
of my 2017 Lexus SUV. He does
not drive a lot I guess 33,000

2322
02:17:11,820 --> 02:17:15,030
Miles doesn't seem like a lot
for first six years does it

2323
02:17:17,459 --> 02:17:20,969
John C Dvorak: 5000 miles a year
yeah. sappy unless you have a

2324
02:17:20,969 --> 02:17:24,779
commute that's pretty common.
Yeah. And he says no jingles no

2325
02:17:24,779 --> 02:17:26,759
karma so my mileage I don't
drive it

2326
02:17:27,389 --> 02:17:30,149
Adam Curry: no no jingles no
karma so we will not give you

2327
02:17:30,149 --> 02:17:32,609
jingles or Karma. Thank you very
much for your support.

2328
02:17:33,660 --> 02:17:36,210
John C Dvorak: He keeps come in
before and it's I haven't heard

2329
02:17:36,210 --> 02:17:40,200
him for a while. I'm glad to
hear from him. Bowman McMahon

2330
02:17:40,200 --> 02:17:45,870
and Utopia Texas came in with
233 3.33 donations. Which makes

2331
02:17:45,870 --> 02:17:49,380
me wonder if was a mistake and
is no note to be found anywhere

2332
02:17:49,380 --> 02:17:53,490
even though Jays like freaked
out about it. So we don't know

2333
02:17:53,490 --> 02:17:54,150
what I love.

2334
02:17:54,150 --> 02:17:59,220
Adam Curry: She goes. Check your
emails. check emails, gentlemen,

2335
02:17:59,250 --> 02:18:02,370
there's no no there's two of
these donations. It does seem

2336
02:18:02,370 --> 02:18:07,140
kind of weird. You'd have two
identical donations and no

2337
02:18:07,140 --> 02:18:07,920
notes. So

2338
02:18:08,340 --> 02:18:10,560
John C Dvorak: I've taken it.
I'm of the opinion that we're

2339
02:18:10,560 --> 02:18:12,450
going to end up losing half of
this money.

2340
02:18:12,480 --> 02:18:14,520
Adam Curry: That's okay. Well,
we're happy to return it if that

2341
02:18:14,520 --> 02:18:15,630
was a mistake. Yeah.

2342
02:18:15,629 --> 02:18:18,509
John C Dvorak: And I also know
it would be nice to read

2343
02:18:18,509 --> 02:18:19,589
anything he has to say

2344
02:18:19,620 --> 02:18:21,780
Adam Curry: given the double up
karma that we usually hand out

2345
02:18:21,780 --> 02:18:22,860
and he's got

2346
02:18:25,500 --> 02:18:30,180
John C Dvorak: Where is where is
in fact, utopia? Texas.

2347
02:18:30,900 --> 02:18:33,450
Adam Curry: I don't know. I
don't know. It's not I don't

2348
02:18:33,450 --> 02:18:36,240
think it's actually that far
from here. To be honest,

2349
02:18:36,270 --> 02:18:40,200
John C Dvorak: you're a rocket
Texas's No. No, Texas big men

2350
02:18:40,200 --> 02:18:41,190
that rocket Texas.

2351
02:18:41,219 --> 02:18:42,719
Adam Curry: What did you do in
rocket Texas?

2352
02:18:43,080 --> 02:18:45,030
John C Dvorak: Well, that's
where they had the big giant

2353
02:18:45,030 --> 02:18:47,610
Super Collider. They were
building and I was given a tour

2354
02:18:47,610 --> 02:18:47,970
of it.

2355
02:18:48,389 --> 02:18:50,549
Adam Curry: Is it still there?
No, no, it's

2356
02:18:50,909 --> 02:18:53,609
John C Dvorak: once it this is
George Bush project out who is

2357
02:18:53,609 --> 02:18:57,449
the George Bush? Ronald Reagan.
I can't remember whoever was I

2358
02:18:57,449 --> 02:19:00,449
think Obama killed it or Clinton
kill it. One of them someone

2359
02:19:00,449 --> 02:19:03,779
killed Democrats killed it?
Because it was it was good

2360
02:19:03,809 --> 02:19:07,499
because it was gonna work. And
so when I was in rocket, Texas

2361
02:19:07,499 --> 02:19:12,029
that's when I was introduced to
some to some of the greatest

2362
02:19:12,029 --> 02:19:16,919
chicken fried steak at some Cafe
Cafe whose name I forgotten in

2363
02:19:16,919 --> 02:19:18,029
rocket Texas.

2364
02:19:18,060 --> 02:19:20,730
Adam Curry: Yeah, we definitely
could not have anything like

2365
02:19:20,730 --> 02:19:23,520
that working that would ruin the
oil industry. Why even do it in

2366
02:19:23,520 --> 02:19:25,020
Texas, you know nuts.

2367
02:19:25,920 --> 02:19:28,200
John C Dvorak: When I was for
research purposes, it wasn't

2368
02:19:28,200 --> 02:19:31,860
really going to hurt the oil
industry. But anyway, onward

2369
02:19:31,889 --> 02:19:36,569
Adam Curry: Chris angler in
Ancaster Ontario. Candidate

2370
02:19:36,569 --> 02:19:41,369
we're already at Associate
Executive Producer $250.73 I

2371
02:19:41,369 --> 02:19:45,629
wonder if he's a ham 70 threes
this donations Reese is donation

2372
02:19:45,629 --> 02:19:48,779
is a 50th birthday gift to
myself a belated Happy birthday

2373
02:19:48,779 --> 02:19:52,769
to my nephew Eli and a Happy
belated Father's Day to my dad

2374
02:19:52,769 --> 02:19:55,859
Fritz. I'd appreciate a
birthday. foamer jingle go

2375
02:19:55,859 --> 02:19:56,639
podcasting.

2376
02:19:57,630 --> 02:20:00,300
Unknown: Oh my god. To

2377
02:20:02,220 --> 02:20:07,110
Adam Curry: go Happy Birthday if
he isn't him by the way, this

2378
02:20:07,110 --> 02:20:11,550
Saturday is Field Day. So you
got to be breaking out the rig.

2379
02:20:11,640 --> 02:20:14,880
Got to be hey got your rigs
people get on battery power

2380
02:20:15,300 --> 02:20:20,340
John C Dvorak: shirt Christopher
and l rod Alabama. tu tu tu ro

2381
02:20:20,340 --> 02:20:25,200
ducts tu tu tu tu tu tu
switcheroo to honor my smokin

2382
02:20:25,200 --> 02:20:30,510
hot wife Kim for her birthday on
the 23rd You got it can I get a

2383
02:20:30,510 --> 02:20:33,840
biscuit for her birthday? They
always give me a biscuit on my

2384
02:20:33,840 --> 02:20:38,040
birthday and all the Sharpton
you can bear thank you both for

2385
02:20:38,040 --> 02:20:42,240
all you do Sir Christopher
Knight of this just sipsey

2386
02:20:42,240 --> 02:20:42,870
Valley

2387
02:20:43,619 --> 02:20:47,879
Adam Curry: and I guess just Kim
right because we don't have a

2388
02:20:47,879 --> 02:20:50,429
hit Sir Christopher I guess
that's his first name so we're

2389
02:20:50,429 --> 02:20:54,809
just putting Kim Sir Sir loud
pipes in Charlotte North

2390
02:20:54,809 --> 02:20:57,239
Carolina also short ROA ducks
two to two

2391
02:20:57,240 --> 02:20:59,580
John C Dvorak: don't have any he
didn't give a miss sharp didn't

2392
02:21:00,450 --> 02:21:01,530
jingle I'm sorry

2393
02:21:01,530 --> 02:21:06,540
Adam Curry: I misunderstood I
had no I didn't misunderstand I

2394
02:21:06,540 --> 02:21:09,570
just didn't listen. That's what
I did wrong.

2395
02:21:14,730 --> 02:21:16,290
Unknown: ESP I see T

2396
02:21:16,320 --> 02:21:18,930
Adam Curry: is just such a
classic and always can always

2397
02:21:19,260 --> 02:21:22,590
bear so loud pipes Charlotte
North Carolina also the short

2398
02:21:22,590 --> 02:21:26,070
road ducks to 22 dot 22 Road
ducks for the cause I have not

2399
02:21:26,070 --> 02:21:29,400
heard this in a while but I
needed D douche bag check. Oh,

2400
02:21:29,430 --> 02:21:34,320
hold on a second. bag check that
we had a jingle for that de

2401
02:21:35,370 --> 02:21:37,200
douche bag check.

2402
02:21:38,550 --> 02:21:41,100
John C Dvorak: It was bag Jack.
Doors bag check

2403
02:21:46,890 --> 02:21:49,290
Adam Curry: so we needed that
first buddy Jay onward, sir.

2404
02:21:49,290 --> 02:21:52,530
Loud pipes Baron of Mecklenburg
County. Thank you very much.

2405
02:21:54,600 --> 02:21:59,400
John C Dvorak: John Spigel
especially pronounced Spiegel it

2406
02:21:59,400 --> 02:22:02,400
looks like Spiegel but it's
pronounced Spiegel? Rochester,

2407
02:22:02,400 --> 02:22:07,020
New York. Switcheroo I'm making
this Father's Day donation to my

2408
02:22:07,020 --> 02:22:10,140
dad's name. Steven Spiegel. We
both have been listening to show

2409
02:22:10,140 --> 02:22:13,290
for a couple of years and we
regret that it took so long to

2410
02:22:13,290 --> 02:22:17,790
find it. Yeah, thanks everyone.
Longtime to find it. It's a

2411
02:22:17,940 --> 02:22:20,370
podcast. Please de douche.
Hamish

2412
02:22:21,930 --> 02:22:23,760
Unknown: you've been de deuced

2413
02:22:25,380 --> 02:22:28,350
John C Dvorak: this donation is
the least I can do and does not

2414
02:22:28,350 --> 02:22:32,070
the least you can do you could
do a lot man I always do the

2415
02:22:32,070 --> 02:22:35,310
least for the man that
introduced me to the three most

2416
02:22:35,460 --> 02:22:38,820
important things in my life
Jesus Christ critical thinking

2417
02:22:38,820 --> 02:22:44,520
and skiing please hit him with
some help Sharpton resist very

2418
02:22:44,520 --> 02:22:50,970
much and the Jide jingles. Happy
Father's Day to my dad and to

2419
02:22:50,970 --> 02:22:55,080
all the fathers out there and
thank you, John and Adam and

2420
02:22:55,080 --> 02:22:58,890
keep up the good work John
Spiele Rochester New York but

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resist

2422
02:22:59,850 --> 02:23:07,590
Unknown: we must. We must and we
will much about that. Becoming a

2423
02:23:07,590 --> 02:23:13,080
GOP inviting is escalating.
Political says Democrats are

2424
02:23:13,080 --> 02:23:17,400
outright Jide free to watch the
GOP and pro

2425
02:23:17,820 --> 02:23:20,100
Adam Curry: so I'm looking for
these. What do you remember this

2426
02:23:20,100 --> 02:23:27,210
one? Yeah, I'm gonna put that in
the end of show. That's like a

2427
02:23:27,210 --> 02:23:27,720
minute. That's

2428
02:23:27,720 --> 02:23:29,160
John C Dvorak: a good good song.
Yeah, yeah, I'm

2429
02:23:29,160 --> 02:23:30,870
Adam Curry: gonna put that in
the end of show. That's pretty

2430
02:23:30,870 --> 02:23:34,350
funny. Okay, do that. Do Can you
do the next one? Well, I put

2431
02:23:34,350 --> 02:23:35,220
this in Yeah, Linda

2432
02:23:35,220 --> 02:23:38,580
John C Dvorak: LAPACK in is in
Lakewood, Colorado. Jobs cover

2433
02:23:38,580 --> 02:23:42,270
for all the job hunters out
there and for a competitive edge

2434
02:23:42,270 --> 02:23:48,720
Go to Image makers inc.com For
all your executive resume and

2435
02:23:48,720 --> 02:23:52,950
job search needs. Or just find
Linda Lou packin under the

2436
02:23:52,950 --> 02:23:56,340
show's executive producer list
and run a search

2437
02:23:56,789 --> 02:24:04,559
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs That's karma.

2438
02:24:05,190 --> 02:24:06,030
And

2439
02:24:07,050 --> 02:24:09,420
John C Dvorak: yes, we wind it
up with Yeah, last on the list

2440
02:24:09,420 --> 02:24:15,660
is crystal blindness blindness.
In Jackson, Wyoming, no note. So

2441
02:24:15,660 --> 02:24:17,850
that's 200 bucks and give him a
double up karma.

2442
02:24:17,910 --> 02:24:23,430
Adam Curry: You got it. There we
go. You've got karma. Well,

2443
02:24:23,430 --> 02:24:27,930
spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. We
have no nice things today.

2444
02:24:28,440 --> 02:24:31,680
Again, yes, again, and we can go
pretty quickly. There's not a

2445
02:24:31,680 --> 02:24:33,990
lot of there's not a lot
actually. So if you just take us

2446
02:24:33,990 --> 02:24:37,560
through the 50s. We'll we'll
move on and do our birthdays and

2447
02:24:37,920 --> 02:24:41,940
and get to the second half of
the show. With a sound effect.

2448
02:24:42,000 --> 02:24:46,260
John C Dvorak: All right, we'll
start with Deborah. The shad TA

2449
02:24:46,650 --> 02:24:52,050
and or shelter Shetler, the
Shetler as she is in for 150

2450
02:24:52,050 --> 02:24:55,560
bucks and I have to read this
because switcheroo I'm donating

2451
02:24:55,560 --> 02:24:59,970
as a douche de douching birthday
gift to the love of my life.

2452
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:06,000
Mike mesic turned me on to your
show. Tell him his koala loves

2453
02:25:06,000 --> 02:25:09,690
him very much. To give me the
division.

2454
02:25:11,130 --> 02:25:12,990
Unknown: You've been de deuced

2455
02:25:15,480 --> 02:25:18,870
John C Dvorak: Alright, there we
go is hacking, hacking hacking

2456
02:25:19,230 --> 02:25:22,380
hacking, which is pronounced
some other way I can get the

2457
02:25:23,490 --> 02:25:26,970
Adam Curry: heck off I can hack
an activist Andreessen is hacker

2458
02:25:27,570 --> 02:25:32,940
was Andreessen is good to know.
It's Andreessen I know I have it

2459
02:25:32,940 --> 02:25:33,810
on good authority.

2460
02:25:34,530 --> 02:25:38,850
John C Dvorak: Portland, Oregon.
Sorry to hear that part. $150

2461
02:25:39,090 --> 02:25:41,580
laughed out loud when he heard
us trying to pronounce his name,

2462
02:25:42,150 --> 02:25:45,870
Jason Bible, or bibble Oh by,

2463
02:25:46,320 --> 02:25:48,870
Adam Curry: actually his
donation Haqqani is a switcheroo

2464
02:25:48,870 --> 02:25:52,170
for his brother, Mads K Oh,
sorry, I

2465
02:25:52,170 --> 02:25:54,750
John C Dvorak: should have read
that. It's gonna match Mads K

2466
02:25:54,780 --> 02:25:57,150
Adam Curry: and he's got a
birthday coming up. So that's

2467
02:25:57,150 --> 02:25:59,250
why he switch routed and we'll
make it so.

2468
02:26:00,330 --> 02:26:04,650
John C Dvorak: Jason by Bible in
Austin, Texas. 120 12 Mary Smith

2469
02:26:04,650 --> 02:26:10,080
and Stuart, Florida $100. Robin,
sir Steve in San Jose,

2470
02:26:10,080 --> 02:26:14,850
California. $100 is a switch
your route for Peter Boyle Jr.

2471
02:26:15,570 --> 02:26:16,470
Last night again, his

2472
02:26:16,470 --> 02:26:18,870
Adam Curry: wife lost their
beloved companion of 17 years

2473
02:26:18,870 --> 02:26:19,830
Ben the cat.

2474
02:26:20,130 --> 02:26:23,130
John C Dvorak: Oh, seven years
is a long time for a cat. Yeah,

2475
02:26:23,340 --> 02:26:25,320
Adam Curry: that is a lot. It is
a long time for a cat

2476
02:26:25,860 --> 02:26:30,600
John C Dvorak: II and field $100
SHAN mountain in Nuevo

2477
02:26:30,600 --> 02:26:36,360
California $100 Ben Lillard in
Prosper Texas. 8888. Sir Kevin

2478
02:26:36,360 --> 02:26:39,750
McLaughlin never misses a beat
and here he is from locust North

2479
02:26:39,750 --> 02:26:48,840
Carolina with 808 Boobs. Jason
maror in Vancouver, Washington a

2480
02:26:48,840 --> 02:26:53,850
Oh, eight more boobs. Richard
Hufford in Tempe Arizona. A oh

2481
02:26:53,850 --> 02:27:04,110
eight boobs. Rita Harrington in
Sparks Nevada 6533. Alex and jet

2482
02:27:04,110 --> 02:27:07,740
of daven is in Czechoslovakia.

2483
02:27:08,010 --> 02:27:12,210
Adam Curry: Giovanni I'll say
Jed of Nietzsche

2484
02:27:13,530 --> 02:27:19,170
John C Dvorak: is in Chechnya.
Yes. 606. CZ used to be check

2485
02:27:19,170 --> 02:27:22,830
those logs see catchy and
nowadays, not the Czech

2486
02:27:22,830 --> 02:27:23,370
Republic.

2487
02:27:23,400 --> 02:27:26,070
Adam Curry: I think Alex is I
think Alex is one of our trans

2488
02:27:26,070 --> 02:27:29,520
listeners. Oh, trans trans
jester

2489
02:27:32,010 --> 02:27:39,840
John C Dvorak: John pij toss in
karuna, Michigan. 60 submode pet

2490
02:27:39,960 --> 02:27:48,570
in memory Louisiana. 5866 got a
birthday coming up. Jacob long

2491
02:27:48,570 --> 02:27:54,660
in Latin Burg Pennsylvania 5433
and 5432 is the switcheroo for

2492
02:27:54,660 --> 02:27:56,310
his dad. Jim Bob.

2493
02:27:56,340 --> 02:28:00,690
Adam Curry: I just got to go
back to see boat. Boat is

2494
02:28:00,690 --> 02:28:04,440
getting to that age when I start
to put my affairs in order. I

2495
02:28:04,440 --> 02:28:08,190
was researching donating my body
to a medical school right when I

2496
02:28:08,190 --> 02:28:12,780
heard the story about the rat.
No agenda. I took it as a omen

2497
02:28:12,780 --> 02:28:16,170
to donate about the heads. This

2498
02:28:17,490 --> 02:28:18,720
John C Dvorak: desk yeah see

2499
02:28:18,720 --> 02:28:21,420
Adam Curry: we will saving you
have a humiliation.

2500
02:28:22,740 --> 02:28:30,060
John C Dvorak: Can you do should
dad JimBob Yes I can. Do deuced

2501
02:28:32,460 --> 02:28:38,760
serratus murky are notorious
Brahmin and Culpeper, Virginia,

2502
02:28:38,760 --> 02:28:44,190
as I guess he also works for the
agency 5271 Brian Richardson in

2503
02:28:44,190 --> 02:28:48,930
Aurora, Illinois 5069 and wants
us to mention

2504
02:28:48,930 --> 02:28:55,440
Adam Curry: the Aurora Illinois
meetup coming up on the 25th Don

2505
02:28:55,440 --> 02:28:55,680
he's

2506
02:28:55,680 --> 02:28:59,550
John C Dvorak: on the list. Go
to no agenda meetups.com Bob

2507
02:28:59,550 --> 02:29:04,170
Butland coming ga 5069 is in
north Georgia meet up tonight

2508
02:29:04,170 --> 02:29:09,240
two miles in Charlottesville,
Virginia 5033 forest Martin 5005

2509
02:29:09,570 --> 02:29:14,700
Madison Thurman in long Ville
Washington 5001 Another

2510
02:29:14,700 --> 02:29:18,480
switcheroo please add Nate
Thurman add to Nate thermos

2511
02:29:18,480 --> 02:29:22,650
knighthood Okay, well, he can do
that too. Joe Oswald and Lithia

2512
02:29:22,650 --> 02:29:26,430
Florida 50 Oh, here we go. These
are all $50 donors that start

2513
02:29:26,430 --> 02:29:30,060
with Joe Oswald and go on to
Chris Cowan in Austin, Texas.

2514
02:29:30,060 --> 02:29:33,870
Andrew busick. In Greensboro,
North Carolina, Mason Thurman in

2515
02:29:33,870 --> 02:29:37,530
Longville. Washington Christie
Jones. Oh, Nate TermInfo

2516
02:29:37,530 --> 02:29:42,780
switcheroo to is for as Mason
term is for Nate Berman Christie

2517
02:29:42,780 --> 02:29:50,910
Jones and Demarest Georgia. Matt
Illingworth in Montclair, New

2518
02:29:50,910 --> 02:29:54,420
Jersey Robert case in Mill
spring, North Carolina, Julian

2519
02:29:54,420 --> 02:29:59,460
Robinson Aptos. California,
Nicholas Ruda, which in Harpers

2520
02:29:59,460 --> 02:30:03,900
Ferry West Virginia Daniel a boy
in Bath Michigan, Tatiana prints

2521
02:30:03,900 --> 02:30:08,370
in Hollywood, Florida. Patrick
Sir Patrick may come in New York

2522
02:30:08,370 --> 02:30:13,620
City, Robert Hannah in Poway,
Poway, California Luke Reiner

2523
02:30:13,620 --> 02:30:20,100
and London, UK. Sir John and
Heber Springs, Arkansas. And

2524
02:30:20,100 --> 02:30:24,600
last on the list is Michael
stadium, Michael stadium no

2525
02:30:24,600 --> 02:30:28,140
relation $50 We want to thank
all these folks for making show

2526
02:30:28,380 --> 02:30:32,070
1566 to show that it is.

2527
02:30:32,370 --> 02:30:35,310
Adam Curry: And thank everyone
who came in under $50 You're on

2528
02:30:35,310 --> 02:30:38,220
sustainable donations or just
that's what you can afford.

2529
02:30:38,220 --> 02:30:41,310
That's always appreciated. It is
value for value. We can't look

2530
02:30:41,310 --> 02:30:44,550
on your pocketbook, whatever you
find the show whatever value it

2531
02:30:44,550 --> 02:30:48,210
is to you send that back to us.
But we would appreciate it if

2532
02:30:48,240 --> 02:30:51,210
anyone just just send it back to
us. No matter what it is. It's

2533
02:30:51,240 --> 02:30:54,570
all appreciated. You don't have
to be an executive one Associate

2534
02:30:54,570 --> 02:31:01,140
Executive Producer. God What are
you doing, man? Are you okay

2535
02:31:01,170 --> 02:31:04,620
with that? Please go to

2536
02:31:04,650 --> 02:31:08,040
Unknown: forex.org/and A

2537
02:31:09,420 --> 02:31:11,490
Adam Curry: Associate Executive
producers for supporting us for

2538
02:31:11,490 --> 02:31:17,400
1566 Our formula is this. We go
out. We hit people in the mouth.

2539
02:31:37,350 --> 02:31:41,580
And here's our list of old paths
celebrated on the 18th icon

2540
02:31:41,580 --> 02:31:44,820
Andreessen, wishing his brother
man's Kay Andreessen a happy

2541
02:31:44,820 --> 02:31:48,090
birthday for today, Sir
Christopher wishes is smokin hot

2542
02:31:48,090 --> 02:31:51,240
wife Kim happy birthday for
tomorrow Deborah does shelter

2543
02:31:51,240 --> 02:31:54,420
which is the love of her life.
Mike Messick Happy Birthday

2544
02:31:54,420 --> 02:31:57,840
Chris angler Happy Birthday to
Eli his nephew. It's a happy

2545
02:31:58,230 --> 02:32:01,020
belated Happy Birthday. You
turned six and Chris Engler

2546
02:32:01,020 --> 02:32:03,570
himself is celebrating Happy
Birthday to everybody here from

2547
02:32:03,570 --> 02:32:05,490
the best podcast in the universe

2548
02:32:14,700 --> 02:32:16,050
Unknown: don't want to be
induced.

2549
02:32:16,380 --> 02:32:19,620
Adam Curry: We have a non
douchebag sir Nathan Lee who was

2550
02:32:19,650 --> 02:32:23,820
changing his title he becomes a
Baronet. And hereby we bequeath

2551
02:32:23,820 --> 02:32:26,730
him with the title sir Nathan
Lee Baronet of the Leo Moon

2552
02:32:26,730 --> 02:32:31,710
everything country Sun first
horse of amoc Armageddon. Yes,

2553
02:32:31,710 --> 02:32:35,010
he also has the longest Berna
title in the universe. Thank you

2554
02:32:35,010 --> 02:32:36,330
very much sir Nathan Lee.

2555
02:32:36,780 --> 02:32:37,860
Unknown: No one said

2556
02:32:45,630 --> 02:32:48,150
Adam Curry: no agenda meetups,
the companion to listening to

2557
02:32:48,150 --> 02:32:51,480
the program. Without it. You are
really kind of incomplete. You

2558
02:32:51,480 --> 02:32:54,270
need the connection for your
very own protection. You learn

2559
02:32:54,270 --> 02:32:56,550
everything here but you got to
be able to talk to people about

2560
02:32:56,550 --> 02:32:59,970
it. You have to exchange ideas.
Go to one of the no agenda

2561
02:32:59,970 --> 02:33:03,450
meetups they are everywhere
around the world they're taking

2562
02:33:03,450 --> 02:33:07,110
place. Got a quick meet up
report from the third northwest

2563
02:33:07,110 --> 02:33:11,490
Houston Houston meetup. The bike
counts or economic hitman hosted

2564
02:33:11,490 --> 02:33:15,180
that he had Andreea and her
dad's are sorted out as well as

2565
02:33:15,180 --> 02:33:20,820
grey Knight 33, Kyle and Octo,
Octo, Pete, David, Nelson, and

2566
02:33:20,820 --> 02:33:23,820
Mohammed all showed up all
really smart people who were fun

2567
02:33:23,820 --> 02:33:26,610
to talk to the next meetup will
be in July, during the Houston

2568
02:33:26,610 --> 02:33:30,240
in a telegram group to help plan
it. This is another thing once

2569
02:33:30,240 --> 02:33:33,120
you're part of these meetups,
there's all kinds of offline

2570
02:33:33,120 --> 02:33:36,450
groups or not offline, but
groups that are on telegram and

2571
02:33:36,450 --> 02:33:40,140
other other networks, Discord
servers, all kinds of thing

2572
02:33:40,140 --> 02:33:44,430
people self organize. Then when
you get events, people are able

2573
02:33:44,430 --> 02:33:47,310
to actually organize things that
are important within the group

2574
02:33:47,340 --> 02:33:49,620
like when we had with
snowpocalypse in Austin sir

2575
02:33:49,620 --> 02:33:52,680
Scott, Baron Scott man, he was
taking care of all kinds of

2576
02:33:52,680 --> 02:33:55,620
people. So remember to do that.
No agenda meetups. We have a

2577
02:33:55,620 --> 02:33:57,900
report from the north Idaho
sanity brigade here

2578
02:33:57,900 --> 02:34:00,750
Unknown: sir Scott the Jew here
at the Selkirk Abbey once again

2579
02:34:00,780 --> 02:34:03,270
in North Idaho and dude,
honestly, this meetup kind of

2580
02:34:03,270 --> 02:34:06,630
sucks because Dana Brunetti is
not here. I don't see any trans

2581
02:34:06,630 --> 02:34:07,770
jester people.

2582
02:34:07,800 --> 02:34:12,300
There's nobody playing the sitar
ITM from Serge JMO black bear in

2583
02:34:12,330 --> 02:34:15,210
North Idaho need to make it to
more of these meetups this has

2584
02:34:15,210 --> 02:34:19,140
just been an awesome night sir
debo here shapeshifting back to

2585
02:34:19,140 --> 02:34:22,320
the land of Bob Dylan be back in
September

2586
02:34:22,349 --> 02:34:26,069
right here registered spook of
the meetup reminding everyone

2587
02:34:26,069 --> 02:34:29,249
that trains good lanes bad.

2588
02:34:30,390 --> 02:34:32,520
Lane epic Mita

2589
02:34:32,610 --> 02:34:34,080
sur Devo played the bagpipe and

2590
02:34:34,080 --> 02:34:35,490
I missed it. Yeah, they

2591
02:34:35,490 --> 02:34:38,100
Adam Curry: sent me pictures or
Devo actually did play the

2592
02:34:38,100 --> 02:34:41,640
bagpipes meet up. This is the
kind of stuff you will not get

2593
02:34:41,640 --> 02:34:44,400
anywhere else at a no agenda
meetup and today you can go to

2594
02:34:44,400 --> 02:34:47,880
the say hello to summer Palooza
at Riverside Park in Oshkosh

2595
02:34:47,880 --> 02:34:51,270
Wisconsin underway now I believe
the North Georgia monthly meet

2596
02:34:51,270 --> 02:34:54,780
up at six o'clock. Cherry steep
street brewing Alpharetta,

2597
02:34:54,780 --> 02:34:59,160
Georgia on Saturday, Chattanooga
fear is freedom meet up for 40s

2598
02:34:59,160 --> 02:35:04,920
and fall At champions chicken in
Chattanooga, Tennessee and the

2599
02:35:04,920 --> 02:35:09,000
Star Chamber of Idaho at beers
guy saloon on Saturday star

2600
02:35:09,000 --> 02:35:15,300
Idaho, Mo agenda schemes at
beverage place pub and Seattle,

2601
02:35:15,300 --> 02:35:19,320
Washington. They'll be at 330.
On Saturday on Sunday, the next

2602
02:35:19,320 --> 02:35:22,890
show day, the real Fox Valley
meet up two o'clock at two

2603
02:35:22,890 --> 02:35:26,490
brothers Roundhouse in Aurora,
Illinois, and the morrow

2604
02:35:26,520 --> 02:35:31,020
woodenness At three o'clock JCD
time it says here Pacific trails

2605
02:35:31,020 --> 02:35:35,130
and Taphouse in Snohomish,
Washington. Just a couple of the

2606
02:35:35,130 --> 02:35:38,790
no agenda meetups coming up
between now and the next show a

2607
02:35:38,790 --> 02:35:42,180
reminder, if you're in
conference, living it up with

2608
02:35:42,180 --> 02:35:45,060
all the advertising hucksters or
a guest will be over by then.

2609
02:35:45,270 --> 02:35:48,330
But on the ninth of July, there
will be a meet up there. And

2610
02:35:48,450 --> 02:35:52,350
many more around the United
States Canada and Europe. Go to

2611
02:35:52,350 --> 02:35:55,230
no agenda meetups.com To find
out more and remember if you

2612
02:35:55,230 --> 02:35:58,290
can't find one near you start
one it's easy.

2613
02:35:58,349 --> 02:36:04,199
Unknown: Sometimes you want to
go hang out with Dyson days.

2614
02:36:05,339 --> 02:36:17,519
You'd be you'd be everybody say
is like a pot.

2615
02:36:18,720 --> 02:36:23,280
Adam Curry: It is just like a
pot. I only have two ISOs I

2616
02:36:23,280 --> 02:36:25,350
don't think they're very good
yet. What do you have?

2617
02:36:26,400 --> 02:36:28,230
John C Dvorak: I only have one
ISO Well, let

2618
02:36:28,230 --> 02:36:30,540
Adam Curry: me play your one.
Nice. Oh, here I have it. Okay,

2619
02:36:30,540 --> 02:36:31,470
let's listen to it.

2620
02:36:31,650 --> 02:36:32,730
Unknown: Hush up, boy.

2621
02:36:34,290 --> 02:36:38,430
Adam Curry: Okay, I kind of
liked that one. I have it's

2622
02:36:38,430 --> 02:36:44,460
chicken. Now it's not
understandable. This one? Yeah.

2623
02:36:45,210 --> 02:36:49,740
No, I think hotshot boy wins.
Hands down. Hush up boy. Yeah.

2624
02:36:50,820 --> 02:36:57,480
Not racist at all. Love it.
Biden. Biden, Biden. The gang

2625
02:36:57,480 --> 02:37:00,900
keeps on giving. Yeah, he's the
gangsta. You may be right about

2626
02:37:00,900 --> 02:37:05,130
that. I like how you figured
that one out. So I wanted to

2627
02:37:05,130 --> 02:37:11,430
read these two notes. Cuz they
came in almost back to back

2628
02:37:11,430 --> 02:37:17,160
about ups. You know, so they're
talking about their strike. And

2629
02:37:17,460 --> 02:37:21,690
you remember we talked about
this write ups. He says this is

2630
02:37:21,690 --> 02:37:24,480
UPS Chris. In the morning, John.
I'm running this boots on the

2631
02:37:24,480 --> 02:37:26,940
ground report regarding Adams
recent coverage of the impending

2632
02:37:26,940 --> 02:37:30,120
UPS strike. I'm relatively new
member of the teamsters union as

2633
02:37:30,120 --> 02:37:33,180
a full time driver at UPS for
two years. Your deconstruction

2634
02:37:33,180 --> 02:37:36,600
of this segment was superb. The
key issue did mention is that

2635
02:37:36,600 --> 02:37:39,720
the corruption past present the
corrupt past president of the

2636
02:37:39,720 --> 02:37:43,230
Union, James Hoffa was able to
push through a contract in 2018,

2637
02:37:43,260 --> 02:37:47,070
the members had voted down by
54%. This two thirds rule has

2638
02:37:47,070 --> 02:37:49,260
since been abolished by the
current president of the Union

2639
02:37:49,260 --> 02:37:52,140
Sean O'Brien. This contract
allowed the company to implement

2640
02:37:52,140 --> 02:37:55,920
two tiered wage system for full
time drivers COVID conveniently

2641
02:37:55,920 --> 02:37:58,470
happened and then the company
which it typically never does

2642
02:37:58,470 --> 02:38:01,980
started to hire tons of new full
timers off the street due to

2643
02:38:01,980 --> 02:38:05,490
massive increase in volume. The
full time rate as a driver after

2644
02:38:05,490 --> 02:38:09,690
four years at UPS is $42.50 an
hour. Due to the sketchy

2645
02:38:09,690 --> 02:38:12,450
language in the current
contract. There are full time

2646
02:38:12,450 --> 02:38:16,170
drivers doing the same work for
significantly less about 20 to

2647
02:38:16,170 --> 02:38:19,140
25 an hour, so we see the
disparity here. Now these are

2648
02:38:19,140 --> 02:38:21,780
still good rates. But the key
here is to see through what the

2649
02:38:21,780 --> 02:38:26,190
media portrays as wins for the
Union. No one mentions no

2650
02:38:26,190 --> 02:38:29,190
mention of increasing pensions
increasing part time or paid to

2651
02:38:29,190 --> 02:38:32,520
offset the massive turnover,
creating more even paying full

2652
02:38:32,520 --> 02:38:36,300
time jobs etc. And the air
conditioning is indeed a joke.

2653
02:38:36,690 --> 02:38:39,450
We love our jobs. We drive with
the doors open in and out

2654
02:38:39,450 --> 02:38:42,780
hundreds of times a day. We
don't need a see any veteran

2655
02:38:42,780 --> 02:38:46,020
driver can show the way when it
comes to cooling down off the

2656
02:38:46,020 --> 02:38:52,170
job. So then I got a note from
an an Amazon UPS Honda driver.

2657
02:38:53,010 --> 02:38:56,550
And he says, Oh yeah, I want to
give you boots on the ground.

2658
02:38:56,610 --> 02:38:59,280
Amazon drivers that are using
their Honda's to deliver

2659
02:38:59,280 --> 02:39:03,390
packages for no money is
absolutely true. This is a UPS

2660
02:39:03,390 --> 02:39:07,560
outsources the Amazon packages
that UPS is supposed to deliver

2661
02:39:07,560 --> 02:39:10,410
to these guys and they're
Honda's, I'm one of them. The

2662
02:39:10,410 --> 02:39:13,500
way it works is Amazon has a sub
contracting program called

2663
02:39:13,500 --> 02:39:17,760
Amazon flex. They touted to be
the greatest gig ever work when

2664
02:39:17,760 --> 02:39:21,030
you want to earn $22 an hour.
But what they do not tell you is

2665
02:39:21,030 --> 02:39:24,780
they only offer work in two
three and four hour blocks. So

2666
02:39:24,780 --> 02:39:27,480
getting a full day's work is
next to impossible. And you want

2667
02:39:27,480 --> 02:39:30,600
to spend some more time checking
for the offers than working

2668
02:39:30,600 --> 02:39:34,590
them. They over hire to keep a
liquid workforce and offer

2669
02:39:34,590 --> 02:39:38,220
distribution. In first come
first serve. You're battling

2670
02:39:38,220 --> 02:39:41,340
people for the offers. If you
see an offer on your phone, then

2671
02:39:41,340 --> 02:39:43,560
a bunch of other people see the
same thing. The first one to

2672
02:39:43,560 --> 02:39:46,680
accept it gets it. It's almost
like bidding war over the work

2673
02:39:46,680 --> 02:39:50,400
that they can keep the base rate
for blacks very low. They treat

2674
02:39:50,400 --> 02:39:53,220
you like a delivery drone. So he
has this very long note which

2675
02:39:53,220 --> 02:39:56,760
I'm not going to read all
verbatim but he says that at

2676
02:39:56,760 --> 02:40:00,180
first when you start the program
you get all these offers and Do

2677
02:40:00,180 --> 02:40:03,810
you get oh, like, oh, Whole
Foods three blocks away, this is

2678
02:40:03,810 --> 02:40:09,210
great. And then the offers start
to dry up. And he says, you

2679
02:40:09,210 --> 02:40:12,810
know, then all sudden, I get a
four hour warehouse block where

2680
02:40:12,810 --> 02:40:17,820
I have to drive for two hours
and 100 miles for $66.

2681
02:40:17,850 --> 02:40:20,910
Basically, I'm driving for free.
And of course, once you accept

2682
02:40:20,910 --> 02:40:23,610
one, it's like Uber, you know,
it's like, oh, here comes offer,

2683
02:40:23,610 --> 02:40:27,390
boom, you go. And then you start
not getting these pieces of

2684
02:40:27,390 --> 02:40:33,000
work. And here's the problem. He
found out that there's no secure

2685
02:40:33,000 --> 02:40:36,120
connection, as he calls it
between the offers and the app

2686
02:40:36,150 --> 02:40:41,280
that you use to, to hit the
offers with. And there's a whole

2687
02:40:41,280 --> 02:40:48,600
bunch of bots and app bots that
can use SERP this, these offers

2688
02:40:48,630 --> 02:40:53,400
before it goes into alert mode
on the phone. So typically, now

2689
02:40:53,400 --> 02:40:55,800
you've got your phone on, you
get a bloop you get alert, you

2690
02:40:55,800 --> 02:40:58,440
tap on it, you try and get it
right away. And it's always

2691
02:40:58,440 --> 02:41:01,620
gone. That's because they
figured out you know,

2692
02:41:01,650 --> 02:41:05,370
unscrupulous individuals have
figured out how to grab that

2693
02:41:05,370 --> 02:41:08,070
before it becomes alert and
they're scooping up all the

2694
02:41:08,070 --> 02:41:15,090
money. And he says this thing is
a total scam. In addition to

2695
02:41:15,090 --> 02:41:18,240
that, all the call centers are
outsourced to India. So if

2696
02:41:18,240 --> 02:41:20,850
something doesn't work, or
something's gone wrong, I can't

2697
02:41:20,850 --> 02:41:24,000
communicate with the people.
They don't understand me. I

2698
02:41:24,000 --> 02:41:27,840
don't understand him them. And
he gives a whole bunch of links

2699
02:41:27,840 --> 02:41:31,260
to GitHub repos if you want to
get on and get in on the scam

2700
02:41:31,260 --> 02:41:35,910
and get those offers early. But
this is not sound like the ups

2701
02:41:35,910 --> 02:41:40,290
that we that we love and adore.
As the you know, the King of

2702
02:41:40,290 --> 02:41:44,880
Queens type type job is just you
know, they're diluting it into

2703
02:41:44,880 --> 02:41:47,250
cheap gig work, which is
probably why a lot of the

2704
02:41:47,250 --> 02:41:52,950
packages and delivery sucks. I
think these two gentlemen for

2705
02:41:52,950 --> 02:41:56,220
the courage for bringing us the
boots on the ground, we never

2706
02:41:56,220 --> 02:42:04,470
would have known about this.
Okay. Then I have some climate

2707
02:42:04,470 --> 02:42:08,580
change stuff we need to discuss.
Actually, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

2708
02:42:09,210 --> 02:42:13,530
We can do climate change bill. I
could do climate change now.

2709
02:42:13,530 --> 02:42:18,210
Actually a balloon do some big
pharma as better. I'll do it.

2710
02:42:18,390 --> 02:42:23,370
What time are we at? Yeah, I'll
do just a couple here. Dr. Jen,

2711
02:42:23,640 --> 02:42:26,970
Dr. Janice, Judy, all about the
new COVID shots coming this

2712
02:42:26,970 --> 02:42:29,250
fall. Get ready, everybody,
you'll want to have them you

2713
02:42:29,250 --> 02:42:31,050
want to be getting right in on
that action?

2714
02:42:31,710 --> 02:42:33,390
Unknown: All right, we're
talking about a new vaccine,

2715
02:42:33,420 --> 02:42:37,980
pretty much an update for COVID.
So let me tee this up for you

2716
02:42:37,980 --> 02:42:41,670
guys. Remember how when there
was all this confusion about

2717
02:42:41,820 --> 02:42:45,780
which vaccine when to get the
vaccine, the booster, the new

2718
02:42:45,780 --> 02:42:49,350
variant version, all of this as
it was evolving over the last

2719
02:42:49,350 --> 02:42:53,610
three years. Now we have word
from the FDA that we can expect

2720
02:42:53,610 --> 02:42:58,530
in this country this fall to
have a newer COVID-19 vaccine

2721
02:42:58,800 --> 02:43:03,330
that incorporates the latest
circulating strains just as we

2722
02:43:03,330 --> 02:43:06,960
do with the influenza vaccine,
which is good news right because

2723
02:43:06,960 --> 02:43:10,260
before we had the bio valent
booster we were still using the

2724
02:43:10,260 --> 02:43:16,650
same vaccine from the original
wild type Coronavirus genetic

2725
02:43:16,650 --> 02:43:17,280
fingerprint.

2726
02:43:17,310 --> 02:43:20,280
Adam Curry: Notice what she says
from the original wild type

2727
02:43:20,280 --> 02:43:24,420
Coronavirus, genetic
fingerprint, ie you didn't have

2728
02:43:24,420 --> 02:43:25,080
the virus

2729
02:43:25,590 --> 02:43:30,600
Unknown: from the original wild
type Coronavirus, genetic

2730
02:43:30,600 --> 02:43:34,470
fingerprint, we need to evolve
the vaccines to be current with

2731
02:43:34,470 --> 02:43:36,240
the strains that are
circulating. So

2732
02:43:37,109 --> 02:43:40,289
Adam Curry: just didn't they
have all these? Oh, this new

2733
02:43:40,289 --> 02:43:44,099
booster is upgraded for the
Omicron this new beat this what

2734
02:43:44,099 --> 02:43:47,219
they did? Yeah, now all of a
sudden we were still using the

2735
02:43:47,219 --> 02:43:48,149
old Wild

2736
02:43:50,700 --> 02:43:54,900
Unknown: forces Dr. Jim vaccine
from the original wild type

2737
02:43:55,020 --> 02:43:59,970
Coronavirus, genetic
fingerprint, we need to evolve

2738
02:43:59,970 --> 02:44:02,370
the vaccines to be current with
the strains that are

2739
02:44:02,370 --> 02:44:07,950
circulating. So x bb 1.5, as if
that doesn't just roll off the

2740
02:44:07,950 --> 02:44:11,280
tip of your tongue that's most
likely going to be in the fall

2741
02:44:11,280 --> 02:44:14,640
version. But they have to make
this calculated guesstimate as

2742
02:44:14,640 --> 02:44:17,160
to what will be circulating. But
I

2743
02:44:17,160 --> 02:44:19,890
Adam Curry: want guesstimate
Yeah, just like the flu vaccine

2744
02:44:19,920 --> 02:44:21,630
is one a guesstimate

2745
02:44:21,720 --> 02:44:24,330
Unknown: calculated guesstimate
as to what will be circulating

2746
02:44:24,330 --> 02:44:28,440
in the country. Now the benefit
of this new mRNA technology is

2747
02:44:28,440 --> 02:44:29,370
that within 100

2748
02:44:30,600 --> 02:44:33,510
John C Dvorak: We have a new
mRNA technology now. Yeah, it's

2749
02:44:33,510 --> 02:44:33,780
called

2750
02:44:33,780 --> 02:44:34,590
Adam Curry: guesstimate.

2751
02:44:36,990 --> 02:44:38,880
Unknown: It's a guestimation
going on

2752
02:44:38,880 --> 02:44:39,990
John C Dvorak: and on about
nothing

2753
02:44:40,110 --> 02:44:42,270
Unknown: to what will be
circulating in the country. Now

2754
02:44:42,270 --> 02:44:46,620
the benefit of this new mRNA
technology is that within 100

2755
02:44:46,620 --> 02:44:50,340
days, we should be able to turn
around a vaccine according to

2756
02:44:50,340 --> 02:44:54,330
the circulating strain within
100 days, yeah, three months

2757
02:44:54,330 --> 02:44:57,060
about that time but they're
already working on the one that

2758
02:44:57,060 --> 02:44:59,160
we should be able to be getting
in the fall. So

2759
02:44:59,160 --> 02:45:02,010
you mentioned that flu vaccine
and how we get to every fall,

2760
02:45:02,040 --> 02:45:04,470
this is going to become just one
of those things we get. Yes,

2761
02:45:04,500 --> 02:45:07,410
exactly. Unless you're in a high
risk group and then you might

2762
02:45:07,410 --> 02:45:10,170
need a more frequently, but I
cannot emphasize this enough. So

2763
02:45:10,170 --> 02:45:12,510
many, so few Americans have
died.

2764
02:45:13,200 --> 02:45:15,180
Adam Curry: Well, if you're,
well, you're a high risk group.

2765
02:45:15,510 --> 02:45:17,580
You know, your whatever that is,
I guess,

2766
02:45:17,700 --> 02:45:19,980
John C Dvorak: boosters or
booster shots is shot. What do

2767
02:45:19,980 --> 02:45:21,600
you need more than one

2768
02:45:21,630 --> 02:45:23,970
Adam Curry: because you're a
high risk group. We need to kill

2769
02:45:23,970 --> 02:45:24,390
you.

2770
02:45:24,450 --> 02:45:27,180
Unknown: assizes enough. So
many. So few Americans have

2771
02:45:27,180 --> 02:45:30,810
gotten that by valent booster.
It's part of the reason why it

2772
02:45:30,810 --> 02:45:33,120
was quite Vaillant have dropped
down so much.

2773
02:45:33,690 --> 02:45:34,650
John C Dvorak: By valent.

2774
02:45:36,420 --> 02:45:39,120
Adam Curry: This interesting
question, why don't you toot

2775
02:45:39,120 --> 02:45:42,450
your horn every single time she
says it? Okay, I'm sorry with

2776
02:45:42,450 --> 02:45:48,270
the horn a little much. You
know, it's baggy trousers. It's

2777
02:45:48,270 --> 02:45:52,920
a little much. Anyway. Well, so
by violent by valence, whatever.

2778
02:45:52,950 --> 02:45:58,320
But on Sunday, they had the
Today Show with the longest

2779
02:45:58,410 --> 02:46:02,610
native ad I've ever seen. What
did you put it on the timer?

2780
02:46:03,330 --> 02:46:06,990
Yeah, I was like seven minutes.
doll that's beyond a native ad.

2781
02:46:07,350 --> 02:46:10,920
It's all native ad and that's
like buying it, you know, buying

2782
02:46:10,920 --> 02:46:14,280
time? Yes. Well, if you listened
to and I only clipped a couple

2783
02:46:14,280 --> 02:46:18,270
minutes of it. I just had to
stop. I think it's an overall

2784
02:46:18,270 --> 02:46:22,320
industry native ad from Nova
novo, Novartis, novo, Novartis,

2785
02:46:22,350 --> 02:46:27,030
they are the inventors of
semaglutide schmegle, lead

2786
02:46:27,030 --> 02:46:31,530
submission management and Lego
tide, which is used by

2787
02:46:32,460 --> 02:46:34,920
John C Dvorak: we make it sound
like some sort of, yes, that's

2788
02:46:34,920 --> 02:46:35,400
correct.

2789
02:46:35,940 --> 02:46:39,660
Adam Curry: Which is used by
ozempic and we go V, but the

2790
02:46:39,660 --> 02:46:44,880
emphasis was on ozempic. They
did throw in some will go V, but

2791
02:46:44,880 --> 02:46:48,960
they really said you know,
parent company. And we know from

2792
02:46:48,960 --> 02:46:53,730
the UK that the parent company
Novartis was caught marketing

2793
02:46:53,730 --> 02:47:00,630
and paying for marketing, which
is illegal in the UK. Here is

2794
02:47:00,630 --> 02:47:04,380
just regular old business. Oh,
yeah. Doing business as usual.

2795
02:47:04,410 --> 02:47:08,940
So listen, how the music changes
how the how the you know what

2796
02:47:08,940 --> 02:47:13,110
the doctors are saying? Because
that Where'd you get this again,

2797
02:47:13,110 --> 02:47:13,260
let's

2798
02:47:13,260 --> 02:47:15,840
John C Dvorak: backup today show
the sun today show Sunday.

2799
02:47:15,840 --> 02:47:19,290
Additionally, music over the
segment on the Today Show.

2800
02:47:22,980 --> 02:47:26,610
Unknown: In December of 2017,
and medication for the treatment

2801
02:47:26,610 --> 02:47:30,480
of type two diabetes called
semaglutide was approved by the

2802
02:47:30,480 --> 02:47:35,670
FDA. It was sold under the brand
name ozempic. In recent months,

2803
02:47:35,670 --> 02:47:38,880
the drug has become a national
phenomenon for different

2804
02:47:38,880 --> 02:47:43,050
benefits, weight loss, the talk
of Hollywood, red carpets and

2805
02:47:43,050 --> 02:47:45,300
suburban bookclubs oh, by the

2806
02:47:45,300 --> 02:47:49,920
Adam Curry: way, notice he says
it was the FDA approved it but

2807
02:47:49,920 --> 02:47:52,680
there wasn't for weight loss.
They they approved it for

2808
02:47:52,680 --> 02:47:58,260
diabetes just misses that small
little detail is effective.

2809
02:47:58,380 --> 02:48:01,920
Unknown: But is it safe for
everyone who's using NBC News

2810
02:48:01,920 --> 02:48:05,670
SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT,
Dr. John Taurus as our Sunday.

2811
02:48:07,500 --> 02:48:10,500
For decades, it's been an
obsession for millions of

2812
02:48:10,500 --> 02:48:14,640
Americans. Are you ready to do
the workout? How to drop those

2813
02:48:14,670 --> 02:48:18,690
extra pounds in the old days, it
was all about exercise and

2814
02:48:18,690 --> 02:48:22,200
eating better. But now people
looking to lose weight have a

2815
02:48:22,200 --> 02:48:26,370
new tool in their arsenal baby.
That hype is real prescription

2816
02:48:26,370 --> 02:48:30,810
drugs called semaglutide that
come in a now unmistakable pen

2817
02:48:30,900 --> 02:48:34,980
ozempic and will go V the brand
names for semaglutide drugs that

2818
02:48:34,980 --> 02:48:37,830
were developed to help people
with type two diabetes and

2819
02:48:37,830 --> 02:48:41,880
patients with obesity but with a
desirable side effects with

2820
02:48:41,910 --> 02:48:47,400
weight loss. Big names like Elon
Musk Amy Schumer and Chelsea

2821
02:48:47,400 --> 02:48:51,360
Handler have admitted taking it
and from celebrities to social

2822
02:48:51,360 --> 02:48:55,320
media influencers. This trend
has taken the weight loss right

2823
02:48:55,320 --> 02:48:56,220
by shore

2824
02:48:56,220 --> 02:48:59,070
everybody looks so great. When I
look around this room I can't

2825
02:48:59,070 --> 02:49:01,560
help but wonder is ozempic right
for

2826
02:49:01,560 --> 02:49:07,110
me. The ads from parent company
Novo Nordisk and similar ones

2827
02:49:07,110 --> 02:49:10,470
for other drugs like Manjaro
from Lilly are inescapable,

2828
02:49:10,530 --> 02:49:15,150
plastered over Instagram and
Facebook shaking up the $75

2829
02:49:15,150 --> 02:49:18,390
billion weight loss Marcus
popular programs like Weight

2830
02:49:18,390 --> 02:49:22,050
Watchers and news are joining
the craze acquiring launching

2831
02:49:22,050 --> 02:49:25,560
telehealth programs to offer the
drugs along with their diet

2832
02:49:25,560 --> 02:49:28,800
tracking subscriptions are part
of a strategy that recognizes

2833
02:49:28,800 --> 02:49:31,980
obesity as a chronic and
potentially deadly disease.

2834
02:49:32,130 --> 02:49:35,940
Adam Curry: This is so evil what
these people are doing. And they

2835
02:49:35,940 --> 02:49:38,790
throw in there. Is it safe? Yes,
great. It's a tool. It's great

2836
02:49:38,790 --> 02:49:41,880
celebrities use it. Everyone
should have it. It's fantastic.

2837
02:49:41,940 --> 02:49:45,660
Unknown: How important is that?
Weight Watchers and neum are now

2838
02:49:45,660 --> 02:49:47,370
introducing these weight loss

2839
02:49:47,370 --> 02:49:49,890
Adam Curry: drugs Weight
Watchers a neum. Get your app

2840
02:49:49,890 --> 02:49:50,880
now for their

2841
02:49:50,880 --> 02:49:51,690
Unknown: clients.

2842
02:49:51,780 --> 02:49:54,600
We can't shoulder this burden
alone and I appreciate that

2843
02:49:54,600 --> 02:49:56,610
industry is trying to step up to
the plate.

2844
02:49:56,670 --> 02:49:59,970
Adam Curry: Wow. Industry is
trying to step up to the plate

2845
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:04,950
ate. Thank you industry. Thank
you Weight Watchers that you

2846
02:50:04,950 --> 02:50:06,690
really are helping humanity

2847
02:50:07,080 --> 02:50:10,020
Unknown: works by mimicking a
gut hormone called glucagon like

2848
02:50:10,020 --> 02:50:15,030
peptide one or GLP. One, which
regulates insulin levels reduces

2849
02:50:15,030 --> 02:50:19,140
appetite and allows patients to
feel fuller longer, the higher

2850
02:50:19,140 --> 02:50:22,710
dosage marketed as well. govi
has been FDA approved to treat

2851
02:50:22,710 --> 02:50:26,160
people who are overweight or
obese, but is not recommended

2852
02:50:26,160 --> 02:50:29,610
for people who don't meet that
standard. With some doctors

2853
02:50:29,640 --> 02:50:33,000
sounding the alarm on using all
the Gog for vanity,

2854
02:50:33,180 --> 02:50:36,120
you're doing this for short term
gain, you're not going to get

2855
02:50:36,120 --> 02:50:39,270
that long term benefit and that
sustained success that we want

2856
02:50:39,270 --> 02:50:41,940
for patients that actually do
struggle with disease.

2857
02:50:42,330 --> 02:50:46,770
Adam Curry: So it's a disease.
If you if you're not really

2858
02:50:46,770 --> 02:50:49,860
overweight, you just want to
look great, then you use the

2859
02:50:49,860 --> 02:50:53,130
ozempic. Otherwise, you've got
the Wigo V. These people are

2860
02:50:53,130 --> 02:50:56,730
shameless, then Oh, and by the
way, here's where you can get

2861
02:50:56,730 --> 02:51:02,880
it. neum and weightwatchers. i
This is where I stopped it. This

2862
02:51:02,880 --> 02:51:06,330
is the problem. This is the
problem right here. And I'm I'm

2863
02:51:06,330 --> 02:51:09,180
going to say right now put it in
the Red Book. We're going to

2864
02:51:09,180 --> 02:51:13,200
find out that oh, yeah, it turns
out people who use ozempic And

2865
02:51:13,200 --> 02:51:18,390
we'll go we did dying I didn't
expect that. I just feels like

2866
02:51:18,390 --> 02:51:21,060
it's another death thing. Well,
the

2867
02:51:21,060 --> 02:51:25,140
John C Dvorak: problem is the
way I see it. The way I see it,

2868
02:51:26,250 --> 02:51:28,770
it was just approved What 2019

2869
02:51:29,760 --> 02:51:33,120
Adam Curry: It was not with Gopi
was only recently approved.

2870
02:51:33,990 --> 02:51:37,200
John C Dvorak: By me saying this
this basic, the basic the base

2871
02:51:37,200 --> 02:51:39,540
Yeah, the other one, which is
the high dose, it's like well,

2872
02:51:39,540 --> 02:51:41,010
okay, whatever basic product

2873
02:51:41,010 --> 02:51:45,030
Adam Curry: for for diabetes was
approved react in 2019.

2874
02:51:45,300 --> 02:51:48,180
John C Dvorak: Well, that's not
enough time. That's not even 10

2875
02:51:48,180 --> 02:51:51,900
years of data. Don't know what's
gonna happen, your hair could

2876
02:51:51,900 --> 02:51:54,720
fall out. I mean, there are side
effects already including

2877
02:51:54,750 --> 02:51:57,660
pancreatitis, unis. That
aggravation.

2878
02:51:57,690 --> 02:52:00,390
Adam Curry: In fact, hair hair
loss is one of the reported

2879
02:52:00,420 --> 02:52:03,930
John C Dvorak: hair loss is a
business issue until people

2880
02:52:03,930 --> 02:52:07,860
shouldn't be taken anything
that's this drastic, which is

2881
02:52:07,860 --> 02:52:10,500
drastic. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Okay.

2882
02:52:10,530 --> 02:52:13,260
Adam Curry: Now, but it's also
it's also you know, it's, it's

2883
02:52:13,260 --> 02:52:19,920
like the epitome it's, it's
Idiocracy. But I'm eating crap.

2884
02:52:20,010 --> 02:52:20,850
I got fat.

2885
02:52:21,120 --> 02:52:23,310
Unknown: Give me a shot. You
watch you stop eating,

2886
02:52:23,640 --> 02:52:25,980
Adam Curry: or are you trying to
eat try and eat something

2887
02:52:25,980 --> 02:52:36,720
healthy? You don't hear Dr. Jenn
talking about that. Huh? Anyway,

2888
02:52:36,750 --> 02:52:40,110
the way the healthcare works in
the United States, this would be

2889
02:52:40,110 --> 02:52:43,350
my last clip is, is as the
following. It's all about the

2890
02:52:43,350 --> 02:52:46,050
money people. Never saw Perez

2891
02:52:46,050 --> 02:52:48,930
Unknown: had a virulent case of
COVID and pneumonia when she

2892
02:52:48,930 --> 02:52:54,630
arrived at this HCA hospital in
2021. She was just 42 years old.

2893
02:52:54,870 --> 02:52:58,290
Doctors put her on a ventilator
and into a coma. But after

2894
02:52:58,290 --> 02:53:01,890
kidney failure and a series of
mini strokes common and COVID.

2895
02:53:02,130 --> 02:53:05,940
About a month after her
admission, common in COVID, DAF

2896
02:53:05,940 --> 02:53:09,960
began urging her mother Alma
Salas to transfer her daughter

2897
02:53:09,960 --> 02:53:12,660
to end of life care and let her
die.

2898
02:53:13,080 --> 02:53:16,470
I felt like he was trying to
pressure me Hey, do you really

2899
02:53:16,470 --> 02:53:18,480
want to live your life taking
care of your daughter in a

2900
02:53:18,480 --> 02:53:20,790
vegetative state for the next 30
years?

2901
02:53:22,290 --> 02:53:26,940
I slipped down I'm an acid. I'm
not gonna do it. I'm not gonna

2902
02:53:26,940 --> 02:53:27,570
let her go.

2903
02:53:28,020 --> 02:53:31,920
Another time she says six or
seven HCA staff members gathered

2904
02:53:31,920 --> 02:53:35,460
at her daughter's bedside urging
her to enter treatment. One

2905
02:53:35,460 --> 02:53:38,340
nurse Allah says was very
aggressive and came in

2906
02:53:38,340 --> 02:53:39,120
repeatedly

2907
02:53:39,180 --> 02:53:43,410
Sheila really angry I was like
taken aback.

2908
02:53:43,500 --> 02:53:47,910
The pressure solace describes
existed some of HCA other 170

2909
02:53:47,910 --> 02:53:51,600
Plus hospitals, staff are
pressed to get patients into

2910
02:53:51,600 --> 02:53:54,930
hospice, where life saving
treatments are withdrawn. And

2911
02:53:54,930 --> 02:53:58,620
the incentive is not necessarily
patient care, but the

2912
02:53:58,620 --> 02:54:02,370
improvement of hospital
performance metrics. Because if

2913
02:54:02,370 --> 02:54:06,810
a patient dies in hospice, even
in the same hospital bed, their

2914
02:54:06,810 --> 02:54:10,770
death will not be counted in the
hospital's mortality statistics,

2915
02:54:11,040 --> 02:54:15,030
a key factor used by those who
rate hospital quality and the

2916
02:54:15,030 --> 02:54:17,820
better the rating the better for
business. Yeah.

2917
02:54:20,130 --> 02:54:24,060
Adam Curry: Kill them. Just kill
them. Kill them, kill them, kill

2918
02:54:24,060 --> 02:54:28,110
them. All right now you have to
get us out of here with

2919
02:54:28,110 --> 02:54:30,270
something upbeat, uplifting and
fun.

2920
02:54:32,190 --> 02:54:35,610
John C Dvorak: Well, I have a
few things left. Let's go into

2921
02:54:36,720 --> 02:54:40,650
how we can do this. This. This
is not uplifting or a beat or

2922
02:54:40,650 --> 02:54:45,330
downbeat. This is not bad. This
is just interesting to me. Okay.

2923
02:54:46,770 --> 02:54:49,140
But then again, let's skipped
out just for the next show.

2924
02:54:49,410 --> 02:54:52,500
Blinken on Taiwan. This is
Blinken selling out the United

2925
02:54:52,500 --> 02:54:55,830
States and selling out Taiwan to
Taiwan thing is never going to

2926
02:54:55,830 --> 02:54:57,660
there's never going to be a war
over Taiwan

2927
02:54:57,960 --> 02:55:00,690
Unknown: on Taiwan are
reiterated the longest Adding us

2928
02:55:00,720 --> 02:55:05,400
one China policy, that policy
has not changed. It's guided by

2929
02:55:05,400 --> 02:55:09,240
the Taiwan Relations Act. Three,
joint communique is the sixth

2930
02:55:09,270 --> 02:55:12,870
assurances, we do not support
Taiwan independence, we remain

2931
02:55:12,870 --> 02:55:15,930
opposed to any unilateral
changes to the status quo by

2932
02:55:15,930 --> 02:55:20,130
either side. We continue to
expect the peaceful resolution

2933
02:55:20,130 --> 02:55:21,420
of cross strait differences.

2934
02:55:21,720 --> 02:55:24,480
Adam Curry: I don't understand
this. You have to explain. I

2935
02:55:24,480 --> 02:55:27,510
have heard this I'll be like
what, how does this even work?

2936
02:55:27,810 --> 02:55:31,320
Like we do try no lawyer the
minute the minute do anything,

2937
02:55:31,320 --> 02:55:33,960
Taiwan, we're gonna we want to
get our F 16 is just we're gonna

2938
02:55:33,960 --> 02:55:36,270
do an amendment. And now it's
like, well, but no, it's like,

2939
02:55:36,270 --> 02:55:40,530
we don't support China as being
independent. How does this work?

2940
02:55:42,150 --> 02:55:45,540
John C Dvorak: They don't
support it. There's a document

2941
02:55:45,540 --> 02:55:49,470
that we signed some years ago, I
guess, that the Chinese have

2942
02:55:49,500 --> 02:55:53,070
thrown in our face and said,
Hey, look, you you're not going

2943
02:55:53,070 --> 02:55:57,150
to support. Hey, look, you're
not going to support Taiwanese

2944
02:55:57,150 --> 02:55:59,760
independence. You shouldn't be
talking so much about it. You're

2945
02:55:59,760 --> 02:56:03,120
talking too much. And so this is
Blinken 's okay, we're going to

2946
02:56:03,120 --> 02:56:06,030
talk about it anymore. And he
got a little kicker in there,

2947
02:56:06,030 --> 02:56:08,850
which is that ever the status
quo, which is the main thing he

2948
02:56:08,850 --> 02:56:12,210
went around, nobody's talking
about that. But which is a good

2949
02:56:12,210 --> 02:56:15,780
thing, because status quo means
nothing's going to change. But

2950
02:56:16,680 --> 02:56:19,080
it still sounds like a weenie
the guy's a weenie.

2951
02:56:20,250 --> 02:56:22,530
Adam Curry: I do have something
that will be fun to listen to.

2952
02:56:23,580 --> 02:56:28,650
From the Irish Green Party,
Senator Paulino Riley. There is

2953
02:56:28,680 --> 02:56:33,990
an act that is being set up. I
guess it's only in Ireland, the

2954
02:56:33,990 --> 02:56:39,360
incitement to violence act. And
with incitement to violence, it

2955
02:56:39,360 --> 02:56:43,950
basically means if you make
someone feel bad, I think we'll

2956
02:56:43,950 --> 02:56:45,570
listen to this short clip when
you

2957
02:56:45,570 --> 02:56:50,190
Unknown: think about it, or law,
or legislation is about the

2958
02:56:50,190 --> 02:56:53,250
restriction of freedom. That's
exactly what we're doing here is

2959
02:56:53,250 --> 02:56:56,310
we are restricting freedom, but
we're doing it for the common

2960
02:56:56,310 --> 02:57:00,000
good. You will see throughout
our Constitution, yes, you have

2961
02:57:00,000 --> 02:57:04,560
rights, or they are restricted
for the common good. Everything

2962
02:57:04,590 --> 02:57:08,670
needs to be balanced. And if
your views on other people's

2963
02:57:08,670 --> 02:57:15,480
identities, go to make their
lives unsafe or insecure, and

2964
02:57:15,510 --> 02:57:19,830
cause them such deep discomfort
that they cannot live in peace,

2965
02:57:20,010 --> 02:57:24,270
then I believe that it is our
job as legislators to restrict

2966
02:57:24,300 --> 02:57:26,070
those freedoms for the common
good.

2967
02:57:26,730 --> 02:57:31,050
Adam Curry: And so the what I
heard is, if you don't use

2968
02:57:31,050 --> 02:57:35,430
someone's pronouns, which of
course is violence, then you're

2969
02:57:35,430 --> 02:57:40,620
going to be penalized by the law
exactly what she said. And I

2970
02:57:40,620 --> 02:57:44,460
would like to remind everybody
in the United States we have the

2971
02:57:44,490 --> 02:57:48,960
Constitution and the Bill of
Rights and the amendments and

2972
02:57:49,200 --> 02:57:52,020
it's all meant to restrict
government not to restrict your

2973
02:57:52,020 --> 02:57:55,500
rights you have the rights is to
restrict the the restrict the

2974
02:57:55,500 --> 02:57:58,530
government from doing anything
to your rights, which inherently

2975
02:57:58,530 --> 02:58:02,010
means all people have these
rights. So there's no such thing

2976
02:58:02,010 --> 02:58:06,090
as extra rights that anybody
needs. Am I right? Am I right

2977
02:58:06,090 --> 02:58:06,540
you're

2978
02:58:06,600 --> 02:58:07,560
John C Dvorak: dead on

2979
02:58:11,880 --> 02:58:15,780
Adam Curry: I don't know why
that happened. It's like a new a

2980
02:58:15,780 --> 02:58:23,310
new little jingle we should use
All right, everybody. For end of

2981
02:58:23,310 --> 02:58:26,490
show I've got the resists. We
much we Jide

2982
02:58:26,550 --> 02:58:28,740
John C Dvorak: though yes, I'm
great into show clips. I heard

2983
02:58:28,740 --> 02:58:29,730
him earlier. Yeah, definitely

2984
02:58:29,730 --> 02:58:31,740
Adam Curry: some good ones. We
got Jesse coy Nelson, Sir

2985
02:58:31,740 --> 02:58:37,620
Michael Anthony and Geez laughs
If you're listening to no agenda

2986
02:58:37,620 --> 02:58:43,950
stream.com toll room.io or one
of those brand new podcast apps,

2987
02:58:44,010 --> 02:58:47,670
the millennial media offensive
kicks off with bat soup chef

2988
02:58:48,300 --> 02:58:53,160
right after we're done. Which is
well worth listening to I tell

2989
02:58:53,160 --> 02:58:57,450
you and coming to you from the
heart of the Texas hill country

2990
02:58:57,480 --> 02:59:00,660
here in FEMA Region number six
in the morning, everybody. I'm

2991
02:59:00,660 --> 02:59:01,290
Adam curry,

2992
02:59:01,679 --> 02:59:04,619
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley where I remain.

2993
02:59:06,239 --> 02:59:07,379
I'm Jhansi Dvorak,

2994
02:59:07,740 --> 02:59:11,610
Adam Curry: please join us again
on Sunday for another two to

2995
02:59:11,610 --> 02:59:15,390
three hour media deconstruction
were here to spin you down and

2996
02:59:15,390 --> 02:59:20,490
then spun up world. And we'd
like you to remember us and send

2997
02:59:20,490 --> 02:59:24,240
us some value with DeVore
act.org/na until Sunday,

2998
02:59:24,240 --> 02:59:28,920
everybody. Adios mofos a hui
Hui.

2999
02:59:36,600 --> 02:59:38,700
Unknown: We interrupt your
programming to bring you this

3000
02:59:38,700 --> 02:59:39,630
breaking news

3001
02:59:50,220 --> 02:59:58,470
we downtown downtown we go
first. Tesla staffers. First job

3002
02:59:59,400 --> 03:00:07,050
first I love pizza. Oh first.
Kazakhstan first. First. First,

3003
03:00:07,380 --> 03:00:07,920
pizza

3004
03:00:13,590 --> 03:00:30,690
about about out of up, down. Up,
down, up, down. Up. Down, up,

3005
03:00:30,900 --> 03:00:45,270
down, up, up, down, down, down,
down. Down resist resist resist

3006
03:00:48,030 --> 03:00:53,250
resist and about about

3007
03:01:09,420 --> 03:01:12,840
you might die. Not that many of
you are going to die, so don't

3008
03:01:12,840 --> 03:01:13,500
worry about it.

3009
03:01:15,900 --> 03:01:25,920
Go okay come on me over show.
Come on. Come on. Come on. Come

3010
03:01:25,920 --> 03:01:26,190
on.

3011
03:01:26,220 --> 03:01:30,810
Come on. Come on. Come on. All
right. God save the Queen man.

3012
03:01:31,680 --> 03:01:40,380
God save the Queen man. God save
the Queen, man go

3013
03:01:41,009 --> 03:01:50,189
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, don't go no, no,

3014
03:01:50,189 --> 03:01:51,899
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
don't

3015
03:01:53,130 --> 03:01:55,800
go, alright. God save the Queen.

3016
03:02:01,110 --> 03:02:01,650
All

3017
03:02:01,830 --> 03:02:09,960
over Schoen always knew that one
day we beat the mayor. 33 years

3018
03:02:09,960 --> 03:02:15,150
ago, the voice in my head told
me you finna be the most

3019
03:02:15,180 --> 03:02:21,660
powerful black and brown man of
color on the globe of New York

3020
03:02:21,660 --> 03:02:29,670
City. Behold, the process is
folks. I'd be reading about the

3021
03:02:29,670 --> 03:02:33,270
apocalypse in the Bible. Boom.
And I'm like, that's how you get

3022
03:02:33,270 --> 03:02:38,550
stuff done. The seven plagues,
Corona, monkeypox, climate

3023
03:02:38,550 --> 03:02:44,820
change, white supremacists the
Michelson theast COVID.

3024
03:02:44,820 --> 03:02:51,240
Passports and the Lake of Fire
mostly peaceful protests. I

3025
03:02:51,240 --> 03:02:55,350
don't believe in the separation
of church and state the Bible

3026
03:02:55,350 --> 03:03:00,420
say we in the end, so I'm gonna
make sure we accomplish the

3027
03:03:00,420 --> 03:03:01,500
apocalypse

3028
03:03:02,039 --> 03:03:05,069
under shelter need some say
about this? He knows we know

3029
03:03:05,099 --> 03:03:10,679
they are lying. They know they
are lying. They know we know

3030
03:03:10,679 --> 03:03:14,729
they're lying. We know they know
we know they're lying. But they

3031
03:03:14,729 --> 03:03:15,509
are still alive.

3032
03:03:17,280 --> 03:03:20,760
The cash is like picking out the
trash no sign unnecessary when

3033
03:03:20,760 --> 03:03:24,990
my software does it for me. I'm
using cookies definitely not a

3034
03:03:24,990 --> 03:03:28,860
rookie John see ahead of his
time. Just time watching fever

3035
03:03:28,860 --> 03:03:32,760
fry. That lawyer Canadian guy in
the morning was last time it was

3036
03:03:32,760 --> 03:03:36,750
sound in Canada try offends you
all senses when you put on a

3037
03:03:36,750 --> 03:03:40,020
mask? I preferred you said
you're Googling me like cast

3038
03:03:40,230 --> 03:03:43,590
crafting the narrative can be
like casting a spell did not the

3039
03:03:43,590 --> 03:03:46,950
early treatment how we got back
to the cell tape this

3040
03:03:46,950 --> 03:03:50,970
experimental treatment and do
not tell shot to the heart. I'm

3041
03:03:50,970 --> 03:03:54,480
not doing well. I like what
comedians do when standing up on

3042
03:03:54,480 --> 03:03:56,880
a stage school ballislife
disaster in the world for

3043
03:03:56,880 --> 03:04:00,570
humanitarian aid and as you
define the international crowd

3044
03:04:00,570 --> 03:04:04,110
as what they say laws must be
passed to really make Russia pay

3045
03:04:04,290 --> 03:04:08,490
more than a trillion the
confiscated today. Not given

3046
03:04:08,490 --> 03:04:13,200
that bags oh wait, podcast and
listen in the podcast too fast

3047
03:04:13,410 --> 03:04:15,750
as I can use a break like a pod
fast.

3048
03:04:16,410 --> 03:04:19,770
Adam Curry: That's all the media
has left to do. The M five F

3049
03:04:19,770 --> 03:04:24,090
hedge has boiled down to
complaining about other news

3050
03:04:24,090 --> 03:04:26,970
organizations. I think that
bores everybody.

3051
03:04:27,060 --> 03:04:30,210
John C Dvorak: The producers
want you to just do what you

3052
03:04:30,210 --> 03:04:34,410
just described. Yes. As opposed
to actually doing real work.

3053
03:04:34,680 --> 03:04:38,550
Yes. What are you gonna do? This
is great. Oh, I all I have to do

3054
03:04:38,550 --> 03:04:42,570
is get a bunch of clips of my my
compat competition and Misha by

3055
03:04:42,570 --> 03:04:45,360
Tucker Carlson. I can do that
till the cows come home.

3056
03:04:53,670 --> 03:04:57,180
Unknown: boruch.org/in A

3057
03:04:58,680 --> 03:04:59,790
hush your boy.