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John C Dvorak: He's resorted to
being an Uber driver.

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Unknown: Adam curry Jhansi
Devora Jr. Live

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Adam Curry: in 2023 This is your
award winning nation media

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assassination episode 1563.

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Unknown: This is no agenda,

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Adam Curry: tracking Ted and
Trump and broadcasting live from

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the heart of the Texas Hill
Country here FEMA Region number

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six in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam curry

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John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where I think

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that Microsoft start should end.
And I'm John C. Dvorak.

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Adam Curry: Bravo. Well written
like that one. Was that a golden

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oldie? From Marty?

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John C Dvorak: No, I wrote that.

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Adam Curry: I like that. That's
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it's out of left field
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we've had. But yeah, that makes
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John C Dvorak: Microsoft start
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solid is is clickbait.

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Adam Curry: Let me let me click
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click on start. Oh, yeah, I've
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It's got all this. Do you have
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stories. Yeah, I don't have
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never use it. I guess I do

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John C Dvorak: know you
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problem. Now we're gonna be
moving around, you hit that

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thing, boom, it pops up whether
you like it or not. That's true.

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Adam Curry: Edge. Edge is always
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that things that things a plague
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to use it for certain no DRM
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to get a clip off of Netflix,
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with my brave or as you would
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don't have the DRM stuff loaded
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John C Dvorak: I I run Netflix
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Adam Curry: Yeah. Okay. Well,
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have the DRM stuff in there?

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John C Dvorak: I don't know.
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Adam Curry: do. You said yes.
You said yes. Somewhere along

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the line. Oh, yeah. That's okay.
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that. So what? I'm aware they
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Ted's troubled mind finally be
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's kind
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Unknown: One report. Tonight the
man nicknamed the Unabomber who

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terrorized the nation with a
bombing campaign for almost 20

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years is dead. Ted Kaczynski
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30 years found unresponsive in
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early this morning. Sources
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telling ABC News Kaczynski his
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possible suicide. The 81 year
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mathematician who was
transferred to a medical prison

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facility 18 months ago for poor
health, admitted to 16 bombings

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from 1978 to 1995, killing three
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In 1995. The Washington Post's
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printed his 35,000 word
manifesto, soon after his own

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brother recognize the
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the FBI.

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The unit bombers career is over.

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In April of 1996, investigators
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foot plywood cabin near Lincoln,
Montana, filled with journals

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explosive material, even to
completed bombs. And in his

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manifesto, because insky wrote
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by his belief that modern
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society and the environment.

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Adam Curry: You know, he's been
a staple of the show, not of

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course, not for his killing
people. But you got to admit

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that a professor who's so
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convictions, to goes to those
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to say, and of course, they
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manifesto, which had never
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society and its future. And
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cancer, he was on death's door
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don't know if that's true or not
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ended it to get out of his
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there. You know, it's like
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matter. Okay, fine, you know, to
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worse, perhaps, but he
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not cool. But we introduced him
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were talking about him a long,
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the new being at.io I have the
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introduced him to the show would
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good, where I remind everybody
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September 6 2014. So nine years
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Amsterdam at the time, for your
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the shownotes of a document,
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a Harvard, I think he the guy
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and he graduated summa cum
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teaching at Harvard. And he was
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technology. Eventually enslaving
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yes. And no, here in the
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bicycles. There's so many
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that I see it now. But people
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the Dutch are very good at
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pads. And, you know, they got a
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back that cared, they got the
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while they're biking, they're
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front of their face. Mind you,
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texting. It is unbelievable.

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John C Dvorak: Selfies on well
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Adam Curry: but they're just in
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cell phone with their smartphone
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they have headphones in
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this is not this is not a rare
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everywhere in the city. So I
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document. The document is called
industrial society and its

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future and it's in the NA tech
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guy named Theodore some call
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also known as the Unabomber. So
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manifesto because what is
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just heard the enslavement
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precisely what he warned for.
I'm not endorsed I get it.

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John C Dvorak: That was a good
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bit since then has been pretty
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Adam Curry: I mean, every bit we
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John C Dvorak: you do

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Adam Curry: the one other thing
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John C Dvorak: quote from me
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Anyone would ever say that. Oh,
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Adam Curry: The gag works. The
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John C Dvorak: I let it work.

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Adam Curry: Thank you. Thank you
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one thing that we added to that
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socialized as Kaczynski
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through the educational system.
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this process stifles
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autonomy, creativity, self
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over socialization, according to
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conformity, loss of critical
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absorbed in maintaining social
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expectations. Well, I'd say we
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John C Dvorak: Well, you're
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Adam Curry: Here's something I
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the person was at Department of
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in and in and prosecuted him?

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John C Dvorak: Call me Garland

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Adam Curry: in Garland Merrick
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general Yeah, that's what I
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He also did the the Oklahoma
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Janet Reno. And so yes, he was
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John C Dvorak: was Reno
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listen to it was it was Rena who
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complaining about the idea that
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published a manifesto she was
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Adam Curry: Oh, so she she she
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, we have to
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only chancellor has somebody can
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just got to push this. Yeah,
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can't do that. You're giving him
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platform other people Do the
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Adam Curry: Yeah, I got a I got
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saying, Don't you dare
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you say rip? He's he doesn't.
People really like, you know,

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John C Dvorak: people were well,
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Adam Curry: It's, that's not
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not done. You can't aggrandized
you can't say his writing was

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good. That's not you can't do
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John C Dvorak: Well, he was
right on one thing. I have a

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series of clips about our mass
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Adam Curry: It's hard to believe
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San Francisco. Did I miss this?
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John C Dvorak: Well, some maniac
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of all places. Shot up a bunch
of nine people shot no, it

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Adam Curry: Oh, no one killed.
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John C Dvorak: That's okay. They
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it into the gun to Hogan. But
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after a shooting there leaves
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tonight still trying to find
those behind the gunfire. Good

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evening, everyone. I'm Heather
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nine of those victims from last
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reaction to this recent case of
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continues to pour in. Including
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Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi who
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shooting and the mission and
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first responders and medical
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lost. The investigation
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must end the scourge of gun
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who saved detling joins us now
live from our newsroom with what

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other people in the community
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David and Heather will city
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night's violence say they're
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impacted and for the first time
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businesses impacted by last
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storefront of clothing brand
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skateboards remained closed and
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skateboard shop posting to
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friends and neighbors selflessly
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question. Our peers were the
best and bravest grateful every

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one survived. Its customers
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I don't know why this this is
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only skaters come here and
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thinking of why they do that. He
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Adam Curry: No, okay. This is
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John C Dvorak: Yes. Neutral and
not affiliated. You catch this

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language? Yes. Yeah. As a gang
province, Cisco. They're not

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addressing it sounds like it.
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they people that come in with
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they broke up the gang unit and
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London breed denouncing the

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gun violence, adding her office
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mass shooting both terrifying
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from gun violence and that
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to gun violence. The mayor
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public those responsible will be
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John C Dvorak: and released.
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story. But there's a little
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the part where Ted Kaczynski
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particular. But in this
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like Oh, Real jaw dropper and
this is gonna be a common story

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around the country. You heard it
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is facing some criticism tonight
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Medical and fire. I can't get it
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user posted this video last
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frustration of a police officer
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vehicle with no one inside. Get
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tweeted a response to the
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city. Our thoughts are with the
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them all a full recovery. Our
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John C Dvorak: wow wow so the
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there's lights and siren yes so
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of the scene. Nobody inside that
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the cop yelling at the car that
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Adam Curry: right this is not a
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car that's empty this clip
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John C Dvorak: a whole anyway so
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get out of the way you're in the
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the city where these cars now
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there's a they see a flashing
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they stop in the middle of this
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Adam Curry: what they call that
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and as best artificial
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move how could they not have
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if it's happened once maybe
change the out good or the

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John C Dvorak: did they're never
going to fix this problem? No

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Jay sees it like a big nut about
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so much there's so many reasons
and so deep you it doesn't take

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hardly anything to screw up one
of these cars in there and you

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know you just put a just paint
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to work stop on a 60 mile an
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of things you can do in this and
they think just can't they can't

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discern cards. That's what that
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kind of the kicker the whole
story which is stupid. Stop

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right in the middle of the
situation. Forget

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Adam Curry: to forget the gang
problem. This is the problem.

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And you're not you know how man
it is and it is a problem they

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should get rid San Francisco is
a testing ground for everything

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from vo killing people with
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John C Dvorak: Yeah. No doubt
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Adam Curry: Something that you
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not seen it on the news or no
report but we have people

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everywhere from boots on the
ground anonymous of course on

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the afternoon of June 10 2023
Lafayette Louisiana Parish

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Sheriff's office responded to a
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were informed of it via email
stating quote You have betrayed

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John C Dvorak: Ah

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Adam Curry: I don't know if we
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John C Dvorak: it's what it was
expected. Yes,

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Adam Curry: we knew it. We'd
said this what

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John C Dvorak: he predicted it.
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Adam Curry: said, I guess there
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White House. I only know this
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haven't been watching a lot of
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been filled wall to wall Trump

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John C Dvorak: Trump tro they
hung a big progressive pride

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flag. Yes. outside, outside and
in parallel or above which is

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Adam Curry: The American flag
Yeah, no, you can't do that. You

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can that's against the the flag
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John C Dvorak: They're hanging
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above it in like out a hole.
Okay. It was just kind of above

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just in in in perspective. It's
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Adam Curry: the spirit of at
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Flag Law. Anyway, I will be
getting the full lowdown on The

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Next Episode of pivot with Kara
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that's why um, because you know,
she was invited Of course, that

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she teased ON THE PREVIOUS
EPISODE we all all the gays are

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going to be at the White House.
That's exactly how she said it.

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John C Dvorak: support all the
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Adam Curry: President Biden did
not disappoint as commander in

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Unknown: chief. I was proud to
have ended the ban on

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transgender Americans.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, baby. There's
nothing like transgender

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Americans.

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John C Dvorak: Okay, I got it. I
got it. We're on that. True

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Adam Curry: Okay. This is old by
the way. You got duped on this.

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This is an old clip. I got duped
by Foley. Yes, it lots of people

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sent this to me. This is n and
the way to check that is is

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being a.io but I'll play it but
it's an old clip.

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John C Dvorak: But we've never
played it before. Have

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Adam Curry: we most definitely
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John C Dvorak: Okay, was lost.
We most definitely played it and

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I'll go along with it. I will
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Adam Curry: play it. We might as
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John C Dvorak: It's funny. I've
never heard this clip before.

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Adam Curry: If you want I can
look it up but I know you trust

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me.

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Unknown: I will never apologize
for standing up for

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Adam Curry: LGD P L GT LBG.
LGBTQ two plus kids rights Yeah.

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That's the one reprise the best
topper I've got for you. I can

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actually tell you which Episode
It was. Trudeau

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John C Dvorak: you sure it was
played on the Episode or just in

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advance?

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Adam Curry: No, I'm sure we
played it because yes, we played

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it and if you want I'll have a I
can. It will take me a moment to

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find it in the system. I don't
want to go trust me. I know you

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John C Dvorak: I have. I have as
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thing. I do have a correction.
Oh, okay. And that is the My

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thing about the boxtops.

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Adam Curry: Oh, yes. You said it
was it was the boxtops with the

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letter that had the sitar in it,
but instead what was it?

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John C Dvorak: It was the have
it right here. Here it is, is

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the right band. sitar update,
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Adam Curry: Hold on a second.
The right bands.

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John C Dvorak: To 10 seconds of
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Adam Curry: I'm looking I'm
looking in your clips. I can't

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see. It should

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John C Dvorak: be right band.
Are I? Oh,

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Adam Curry: boy. Yes. Okay.

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What was it? What's the name of
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Oh, that's before my time. So
the Boxtop was still like I

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John C Dvorak: the Box Tops. It
was the same group that did

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that. I just missed a

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Adam Curry: song and it's okay.
You're right. It's fine. That's

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fine. Now here's

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John C Dvorak: the so I was
trying to somebody sent me the

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one of producers cry like a
baby. So I went and got a clip

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short. You know, ask kept short
enough clip.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. No such
thing. But yeah. Well,

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John C Dvorak: I understood that
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Adam Curry: I want to get back I
want to get back to the White

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John C Dvorak: House drives.
Let's just say something. When

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they showed the video of this
crappy band playing. They show

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him playing a regular guitar
with that sound.

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Adam Curry: Lame, lame. That was
already late. That was in the

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video, the YouTube video lane.
Yeah, away. I just want we

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didn't do any of this on the
last show. Some of these are

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carry overs the trans Maoism
which is appropriate to talk

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about now since the White House
did a big thing about the trans

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jesters in America. So let's
see, what's the term you're

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using trans Jester? That's what
the President just said. Trans

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Joe. He said transgender. You
want to hear it again? Yeah,

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because

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John C Dvorak: I thought he said
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Unknown: as commander in chief
always proud to have entered the

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ban on transgender Americans,

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Adam Curry: transgender
transgender Americans, which I'm

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a transgender American identify
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Unknown: are for sure. Well, now
they're back to the same anti

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gay playbook in 2020 24. The
issue is transgender because

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we're past of gay marriage. That
ship has sailed and this is this

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idea of driving people to the
polls, through fear through

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anger through eggs, through the
stress through the we know that

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The paranoia and hysteria that
you got to get rid of Trump.

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These are coming for your
children. Let me tell you that

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Adam Curry: no, no, no, no, no,
this No, no, I'm

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John C Dvorak: just saying what
she's saying.

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Adam Curry: What she's saying
is, you gotta get rid of

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DeSantis. This is anti.

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John C Dvorak: What I'm saying.
Her generalization about this

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trying to scare people to the
polls, is what they did with

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Trump in 2020. Yes,

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Adam Curry: correct. This is all
political,

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Unknown: that the paranoia and
hysteria that drag queens are

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coming for your children, people
let me tell you this. Drag

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Queens don't even like children.
They don't tip. Don't drink. And

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to me this is this is so
contrary to the idea of parental

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choice. No child is driving
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so I would say Ron DeSantis
First, I would say to all the

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drag queens for the month of
June Pride Month, let's

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celebrate by changing your names
to Rhonda Santas.

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Adam Curry: Rhonda Santas, there
ya go. This is appropriate in

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the Yes, actually, I

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John C Dvorak: think that's kind
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Adam Curry: Rhonda, Santa Rhonda
Santas. Wow. All right, Anna

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Devaraj gets a point from JCD.
Now, I just want to show the

449
00:26:18,270 --> 00:26:22,170
extent of this of the political
nature, because it's it's one

450
00:26:22,170 --> 00:26:26,310
thing to medically alter these
children, you could say abuse.

451
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,600
It's another to abuse them for
political means. And this one is

452
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:36,480
far as Deutsche Avella and
Deutsche Avella. Pure CIA

453
00:26:36,510 --> 00:26:39,990
operation, they take all of the
info from whatever CIA tells

454
00:26:39,990 --> 00:26:44,250
them to do they do. And this is
that weird political

455
00:26:44,250 --> 00:26:48,090
correspondent who's in
Washington DC. She goes because

456
00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:52,230
this child was at the White
House for the big trans jester

457
00:26:52,230 --> 00:26:58,230
day. And they did a piece on on
this child who was from Florida.

458
00:26:58,890 --> 00:27:03,990
Unknown: Dempsey is an 11 year
old girl and stuffed animals. It

459
00:27:03,990 --> 00:27:07,950
was born because of biological
boy. She lives with her parents

460
00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:08,610
in Florida.

461
00:27:10,290 --> 00:27:14,790
She started putting cadang
pajama pants on her head and

462
00:27:14,790 --> 00:27:16,080
making pretend that was hair.

463
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,560
Adam Curry: There you go. That's
how it started when you put your

464
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:24,960
pajama pants on your head.
That's how it starts. Wow. So

465
00:27:25,020 --> 00:27:29,220
now listen to these parents
being abused with this child for

466
00:27:29,220 --> 00:27:30,960
political means Ron DeSantis

467
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,180
Unknown: might become the next
president of the United States.

468
00:27:35,250 --> 00:27:47,160
Yes, he might. That terrifies
me. It terrifies me. We have our

469
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,230
passports updated?

470
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:50,640
No.

471
00:27:50,670 --> 00:27:54,240
Do we have exit plans in place?
Yes. If that happens, we're

472
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:59,130
going to have to leave the
country. And I've never lived

473
00:27:59,130 --> 00:28:00,990
anywhere outside the United
States we've traveled.

474
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:02,700
John C Dvorak: But you won't.

475
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,050
Unknown: I don't I don't know.
I'm terrified. Well, I mean,

476
00:28:07,050 --> 00:28:10,830
just looking at what he's done
just in Ford. And it's not just

477
00:28:10,830 --> 00:28:15,600
against clans going against
everybody. Immigrants. It slaps

478
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,690
people. So anything that he
doesn't like it's just sat

479
00:28:18,690 --> 00:28:22,440
that's just silence. And when
will he stop in? That's what I

480
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,780
often say to people. It's like
it might not be affecting you

481
00:28:24,780 --> 00:28:29,820
yet. But they will come for you
next. And that's the scary part.

482
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,360
All the people are doing and
taking away my rights. It's just

483
00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:34,320
not okay.

484
00:28:34,350 --> 00:28:37,020
Adam Curry: For see how the
child has been prompted to say

485
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:41,910
all the people taking away my
rights. Yeah, that's bold. This

486
00:28:41,910 --> 00:28:45,150
is just not has to be. Yeah, he
has to does a script for the

487
00:28:45,150 --> 00:28:49,710
kid. Yeah. And it's, it's so
wrong. I mean, it's just not

488
00:28:49,710 --> 00:28:53,010
true. That's true. And it's just
as bad as saying, you know, the

489
00:28:53,010 --> 00:28:59,340
euphemism of gender affirming
care? No. And you're not taking

490
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,120
no right to being taken away.
This is scripting a kid a 12

491
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:03,450
year old

492
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,050
Unknown: next. And that's the
scary part.

493
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,560
All the people are doing and
taking away my rights. It's just

494
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:17,250
not okay for kids like me. And I
get really scared to just walk

495
00:29:17,250 --> 00:29:20,400
out of my home because I'm just
like, there's going to be that

496
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:26,100
one person that's always going
to be like, scared of me

497
00:29:26,100 --> 00:29:29,010
thinking like a monster or
something. But I'm not.

498
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,240
I know you'd have an invitation
to the White House. What does

499
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,090
this mean for you that President
Biden invites you into kids

500
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,520
proud on was just overwhelmed.
So

501
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,140
Adam Curry: that's that's the
music they put in. They gotta

502
00:29:43,140 --> 00:29:44,670
have a little bit of cello. They
put

503
00:29:44,670 --> 00:29:48,480
John C Dvorak: some some low,
some low, some minor key music

504
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,940
in there to make you feel bad.
Correct.

505
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,510
Unknown: And now you have an
invitation to the White House.

506
00:29:55,170 --> 00:29:57,930
What does this mean for you that
President Biden invites you into

507
00:29:57,930 --> 00:29:58,410
kids

508
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,520
John C Dvorak: Proud on,
overwhelmed? Like, how did we

509
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,180
get here? You know, what would
you tell him?

510
00:30:10,769 --> 00:30:14,639
Unknown: Keep doing what you're
doing. And please fight harder

511
00:30:14,639 --> 00:30:17,969
for my rights and other kids
like me, like

512
00:30:19,740 --> 00:30:22,860
kids like Dempsey, currently
have the full support of the

513
00:30:22,860 --> 00:30:27,300
President of the United States.
However, that could change after

514
00:30:27,300 --> 00:30:29,910
next year's presidential
elections.

515
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:40,650
Adam Curry: Dramatic and Big
Finish? Yeah, yeah. That's

516
00:30:40,650 --> 00:30:44,700
propaganda. And, of course, I
think the whole report is

517
00:30:44,700 --> 00:30:48,270
longer. And I encourage anyone
to go in and show notes and look

518
00:30:48,270 --> 00:30:53,640
at it. Because these parents, I
don't want to say that they're

519
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,450
horrible parents, they have been
completely propagandize and

520
00:30:57,450 --> 00:31:01,230
hypnotized and have been,
there's a spell on them from the

521
00:31:01,230 --> 00:31:04,410
medical community, and from the
teachers and the other

522
00:31:04,410 --> 00:31:07,620
therapists. So the system is
really what is doing this, I

523
00:31:07,620 --> 00:31:11,040
don't want to say these parents
are horrible. Because they're

524
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,010
just they've been sucked up into
this belief, which is no

525
00:31:14,010 --> 00:31:17,490
different from COVID, and
vaccines, et cetera, et cetera.

526
00:31:17,970 --> 00:31:24,090
Now, when it comes to m, five m,
in in the UK who are there, in

527
00:31:24,090 --> 00:31:26,400
some ways, they're a little bit
further along, they close down,

528
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,280
not all the clinics are gone.
But they did close down the big

529
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,450
one. They have, including
Scandinavia, they said hold on a

530
00:31:33,450 --> 00:31:35,820
second. We don't have any long
term trials. They're not saying

531
00:31:35,820 --> 00:31:39,150
that transgenderism in children
doesn't exist. They're saying we

532
00:31:39,150 --> 00:31:42,120
shouldn't be transitioning them
medically, without some long

533
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,690
term studies. Most studies don't
go back further than 2019.

534
00:31:45,690 --> 00:31:50,700
Coincidentally, just before the
lockdowns but the media has

535
00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:56,100
taken it a step too far. And BBC
got a lot of pushback over their

536
00:31:56,100 --> 00:32:01,680
show casualty, which is a I
think it's I think it's drama.

537
00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:06,480
But it's like reality. It's
about an emergency room. It's a

538
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,560
I think it's drama slash reality
show. And here's a little piece

539
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,890
from of course, GB news, who was
talking about the pushback.

540
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:14,220
Well, let's

541
00:32:14,220 --> 00:32:17,790
Unknown: move on and do this
latest story about the BBC drama

542
00:32:17,790 --> 00:32:18,750
casualty Lewis.

543
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,830
Yeah, BBC criticized the non
binary, binary casualty

544
00:32:22,830 --> 00:32:26,670
character discussing top
surgery. And it's for the show

545
00:32:26,670 --> 00:32:29,820
casually, which I've never seen.
It's on the state, the state

546
00:32:29,820 --> 00:32:34,170
propaganda network, the BBC, and
and they just the characters

547
00:32:34,170 --> 00:32:38,070
were discussing at 8:20pm, which
is before the watershed, what

548
00:32:38,070 --> 00:32:42,240
they call top surgery, because
it just sounds so much nicer

549
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,880
than what's actually what's
actually happening.

550
00:32:45,030 --> 00:32:47,580
Adam Curry: So there was a lot
of pushback. People did not like

551
00:32:47,580 --> 00:32:49,530
that they thought it was
inappropriate. They didn't think

552
00:32:49,530 --> 00:32:54,600
it was appropriate to have it in
the script. Not so in the United

553
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,050
States. And I'm going to trod on
your turf here for a moment,

554
00:32:58,500 --> 00:33:01,560
though, I will freely admit this
was the clip custodian who put

555
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:06,240
this quick package together.
recent episode of Law and Order.

556
00:33:06,990 --> 00:33:09,120
Actually, I'm surprised you
didn't maybe have you stopped

557
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,080
watching Law and Order.

558
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,190
John C Dvorak: Haven't been
watching it recently. Much. Oh,

559
00:33:14,190 --> 00:33:18,930
good. So this can turn into a
very slow moving story. I know

560
00:33:18,930 --> 00:33:22,590
there's a lot of virtue
signaling in those clips is

561
00:33:22,590 --> 00:33:23,190
clickable.

562
00:33:23,910 --> 00:33:26,040
Adam Curry: The Norman Lear
Hollywood foundation is no

563
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:27,360
longer talking about this

564
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,400
John C Dvorak: sort of thing.
I'm gonna bring in a clip of

565
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,420
Yellowstone. It's the worst show
ever.

566
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,870
Adam Curry: Do you have a clip
of Yellowstone? No,

567
00:33:36,870 --> 00:33:38,640
John C Dvorak: I don't. But I'm
telling ya.

568
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,070
Adam Curry: A lot of people like
it. Law and order. This episode

569
00:33:44,610 --> 00:33:49,530
is about a doctor treating a
trans teen who was killed by the

570
00:33:49,530 --> 00:33:53,340
teens angry father, but they
throw you off a little bit and

571
00:33:53,340 --> 00:33:57,780
make it seem like the
conservative law maker wife was

572
00:33:57,780 --> 00:34:02,880
the target because of her anti
LGBTQ agenda. Now there's a

573
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,850
kicker to this, but let's just
listen to I think it starts with

574
00:34:05,850 --> 00:34:11,160
the cops talking to so that the
dad has been killed. Or the

575
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,760
ANGRY DAD has killed the doctor.
And

576
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,809
John C Dvorak: we have to stop.
I need to know which law and

577
00:34:18,809 --> 00:34:22,349
order this is Law and Order law,
per se. Is it law and order?

578
00:34:22,379 --> 00:34:24,989
SVU? Is that law and order
organized crime?

579
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,470
Adam Curry: I will get that
answer for you in moments from

580
00:34:28,470 --> 00:34:30,270
the troll room. Now here's the
first clip.

581
00:34:30,420 --> 00:34:32,460
Unknown: Congresswoman, do you
know anybody who wanted to harm

582
00:34:32,460 --> 00:34:32,880
your husband?

583
00:34:33,449 --> 00:34:39,689
This isn't about him. He was a
saint. This is about me. This is

584
00:34:39,689 --> 00:34:44,789
about my political views. This
is my fault. What do you mean

585
00:34:44,789 --> 00:34:47,369
it's your fault? That was
supposed to be me. I was

586
00:34:47,369 --> 00:34:49,859
scheduled to be here all day,
but I got called into the office

587
00:34:49,859 --> 00:34:51,989
last minute for an emergency
committee meeting.

588
00:34:52,260 --> 00:34:54,480
What makes you so sure that you
were the intended target?

589
00:34:55,380 --> 00:34:58,740
I'm a conservative Congresswoman
in a state where admitting that

590
00:34:59,100 --> 00:35:03,840
out loud ism Mortal sin. I'm
constantly receiving threats in

591
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,660
the minds of Fartlek activist
I'm literally the devil.

592
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,300
Any of those threads stand out
in particular.

593
00:35:11,130 --> 00:35:16,140
Last week, there was an email.
And they said that they would

594
00:35:16,140 --> 00:35:17,700
kill me in my own home.

595
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,210
No, it was anonymous, I just had
flagged the message for my

596
00:35:27,210 --> 00:35:27,960
security team.

597
00:35:28,710 --> 00:35:32,310
Adam Curry: So now we're going
to find out about the message

598
00:35:32,310 --> 00:35:33,120
that was sent.

599
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,590
Unknown: You won't know when but
one day soon you'll turn around

600
00:35:37,590 --> 00:35:41,850
and I'll be there in your house
with no one around to save you.

601
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,240
Message Sent from an IP address
registered in your name? Yeah, I

602
00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:48,330
sent it. I should probably know
better. But frankly, she

603
00:35:48,330 --> 00:35:52,920
deserved it. Because I'm a drag
queen. I started a program read

604
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:57,150
the house down. Once a week me
and other queens volunteer to

605
00:35:57,150 --> 00:36:01,440
read to kids from the community.
You do what a drag will the idea

606
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,190
is to get kids excited about
reading by making it fun. Are

607
00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:08,640
drag queens more of a adult
thing. Track is just a

608
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,150
celebration of who you are. The
kids love it. It makes it fun.

609
00:36:12,330 --> 00:36:14,100
There's nothing fun about
sending a threat to that

610
00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:16,740
Congresswoman, I was being
dramatic. But Bart's hell

611
00:36:16,740 --> 00:36:19,680
introduced a bill that would ban
children from being exposed to

612
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,440
drag queens. It's a coded way of
telling the crazies out there

613
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,890
that we're pedophiles is part of
all kinds of online hate. So I

614
00:36:25,890 --> 00:36:29,010
thought she should know what it
felt like. You seem angry. Damn

615
00:36:29,010 --> 00:36:31,200
right. I am. Are you aware
enough to show up at Kristen

616
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,580
Martel's house yesterday
morning.

617
00:36:33,060 --> 00:36:36,630
Adam Curry: This I find this
very very dangerous. What am I

618
00:36:36,630 --> 00:36:42,570
John C Dvorak: okay, i This is
the new law and order. This show

619
00:36:42,570 --> 00:36:46,350
they rebuilt the tentpole was
was law and order and then they

620
00:36:46,350 --> 00:36:49,800
had all these spin offs. And
they took law and order off the

621
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:54,330
air. And they brought it back. I
don't know a year or two ago

622
00:36:56,430 --> 00:37:01,440
it's unwatchable. Do you and
yeah, I guess treading on my

623
00:37:01,470 --> 00:37:04,440
territory because I was supposed
to check these out. This

624
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,280
particular show is this is all
at every episode. You can get

625
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:13,500
clips like this on every episode
of the show. It is so bad. I

626
00:37:13,500 --> 00:37:16,860
don't know why they're doing
this show. Why Dick Wolf came

627
00:37:16,860 --> 00:37:21,090
back and he's doing it. It was
some I always get the impression

628
00:37:21,090 --> 00:37:24,150
that they somebody blackmailed
him to do it.

629
00:37:25,470 --> 00:37:26,460
Adam Curry: Yeah, probably

630
00:37:26,910 --> 00:37:29,790
John C Dvorak: one on watchable
while people are

631
00:37:29,790 --> 00:37:34,860
Adam Curry: watching it. It's
it's Law and Order WVU. I think

632
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:42,570
woke victim unit I gotta give
that one to the troll room. So

633
00:37:42,570 --> 00:37:47,190
now we found out here's the
reveal. reveal who, who was who

634
00:37:47,190 --> 00:37:48,180
was killed now.

635
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:53,430
Unknown: Meyers threatened to
kill Ryan a few months ago. They

636
00:37:53,430 --> 00:37:57,240
had a meeting at our house in
Ryan's office. They talked about

637
00:37:57,240 --> 00:38:00,210
the puberty blockers, the
treatments, the side effects.

638
00:38:00,930 --> 00:38:04,800
And Meyers went nuts. He started
screaming. I overheard the whole

639
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:05,040
thing.

640
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:12,420
We need you to testify. Let me
guess you're worried about your

641
00:38:12,420 --> 00:38:15,690
base discovering that you knew
your husband was treating a

642
00:38:15,690 --> 00:38:16,470
trans kid.

643
00:38:17,820 --> 00:38:22,440
My husband is dead. Can I miss
him terribly. Right now I need

644
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:27,390
to worry about me. My career. My
future. This is the only thing

645
00:38:27,390 --> 00:38:28,200
that I have left.

646
00:38:28,740 --> 00:38:31,350
Adam Curry: So this this is I
guess it's kind of like Marjorie

647
00:38:31,350 --> 00:38:33,600
Taylor Greene. You know, it's
like, I don't care about my dead

648
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,430
husband. I've got to care about
my career.

649
00:38:35,430 --> 00:38:38,160
John C Dvorak: Now, this is the
kind of virtue signaling that is

650
00:38:38,730 --> 00:38:43,620
just show is filled with it. And
it's all everything is there's

651
00:38:43,620 --> 00:38:48,120
all subtext the entire show is
subtext. And in this case,

652
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,720
you're listening today and it
would propagandistic subtext. So

653
00:38:51,720 --> 00:38:55,890
you're listening to somebody the
only reasons a person is a right

654
00:38:55,890 --> 00:39:00,030
winger or a conservative is
because they're insincere. And I

655
00:39:00,030 --> 00:39:02,580
was thinking about this
insincerity factor, which is

656
00:39:02,580 --> 00:39:07,410
like people on both sides of
this of the big debate. Think

657
00:39:07,410 --> 00:39:11,250
the other side's essentially
insincere. Because how can you

658
00:39:11,250 --> 00:39:15,360
think that way? When it's so
obvious, I'm right and you're

659
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,640
wrong. And the only reason
you're thinking that way is

660
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,730
because you're insincere. And
the conservatives do it to the

661
00:39:20,730 --> 00:39:24,570
liberals, do we on this show, we
always assume we don't always

662
00:39:24,570 --> 00:39:27,660
assume we suggest that
occasionally somebody is

663
00:39:27,660 --> 00:39:32,100
insincere on the other side, and
we use the self correct because

664
00:39:32,130 --> 00:39:35,760
it's the nature of the show.
That no, they're dead sincere

665
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,580
when they say that, you know,
they believe that global warming

666
00:39:38,580 --> 00:39:41,160
is gonna kill us all in five
years and six years now, and

667
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,220
they've convinced their kids and
their kids are now nuts. But,

668
00:39:44,580 --> 00:39:47,040
and it's all since but it's
sincere. It's not like they're

669
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,820
lying. No, that this this
subtext that they're pushing on

670
00:39:50,820 --> 00:39:53,100
this particular show is
sickening.

671
00:39:54,210 --> 00:39:57,690
Adam Curry: And then the kicker
of course, is who really killed

672
00:39:58,650 --> 00:40:00,420
the doctor, your husband? Bend,

673
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:05,160
Unknown: claimed that Dr.
Bartell attacked him to cover up

674
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,360
the doctor's crime treating
Taylor without parental consent.

675
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:15,180
But Martel wasn't committing a
crime because you gave him

676
00:40:15,180 --> 00:40:15,630
permission.

677
00:40:17,550 --> 00:40:21,750
I felt like we kept getting it
wrong. That no matter what

678
00:40:21,750 --> 00:40:24,660
choice we made, he was hurting
Taylor.

679
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,760
John C Dvorak: Could I guess who
did it? Yeah, sure. Because it's

680
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:30,330
Taylor.

681
00:40:32,820 --> 00:40:36,600
Adam Curry: No, Taylor is the
kid. The kid didn't do it. They

682
00:40:36,810 --> 00:40:40,710
just listen. That no matter what
choice we made, oh, she was

683
00:40:40,710 --> 00:40:46,230
hurting. Yeah, sure that she
didn't try to hurt herself

684
00:40:46,230 --> 00:40:48,450
again. Here count here comes
your kicker

685
00:40:57,750 --> 00:41:00,240
Unknown: but I thought it was
better to support our daughter

686
00:41:01,980 --> 00:41:04,560
than to mourn the death of her
son.

687
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:06,900
Oh, that's the

688
00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:08,880
Adam Curry: line. That's the
line right there.

689
00:41:09,180 --> 00:41:11,070
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I said that
line in the last show. As you

690
00:41:11,070 --> 00:41:15,270
recall. Yes. You better have a
live daughter than a dead son or

691
00:41:15,270 --> 00:41:18,150
a live son than a dead daughter.
Yeah. And that of course is a

692
00:41:18,150 --> 00:41:20,940
piece of propaganda that they
threw out right in that show and

693
00:41:20,940 --> 00:41:23,760
again, it brings out the fact
that this woman is a hypocrite

694
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:30,090
because she's insincere and liar
and because the perspective of

695
00:41:30,090 --> 00:41:32,610
the show his left so the
everyone on the right is

696
00:41:32,820 --> 00:41:37,740
insincere. There's no such thing
as a sincere conservatives

697
00:41:37,740 --> 00:41:40,560
there's how can that be? There's
no no people don't believe in

698
00:41:41,010 --> 00:41:43,680
that campaign. The people the
religious folks, they don't

699
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,800
believe in anything. No. Like
me. They're an atheist. They're

700
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:47,820
all atheists.

701
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,960
Adam Curry: The wrap this up a
boots on the ground from Petra,

702
00:41:54,990 --> 00:41:59,910
Petra from the Netherlands. And
this is what we used to call a

703
00:41:59,910 --> 00:42:03,870
feminist. A true feminist and
the feminists have lost their

704
00:42:03,870 --> 00:42:05,250
voice in this whole Oh, they're

705
00:42:05,250 --> 00:42:06,690
John C Dvorak: gone. Okay, well,

706
00:42:06,780 --> 00:42:09,000
Adam Curry: they're still here.
tariffs. Yes, the tariffs.

707
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,400
Apparently, they still listen to
the show, and I wanted to share

708
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:19,050
what she said. We have one, the
term one tariff is here. I know

709
00:42:19,050 --> 00:42:21,300
it's horrible what's happening
to peer induced trans pressure

710
00:42:21,300 --> 00:42:25,200
for kids. It's an opt to divide
us and Big Pharma is evil. So

711
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,380
she just stated up front, but
after seeing what is a woman

712
00:42:28,380 --> 00:42:31,920
that's the Matt Walsh, film
slash number, a documentary but

713
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,490
film something else dawned on
me. She says, I am a physically

714
00:42:35,490 --> 00:42:39,450
strong woman, I do blacksmithing
and work as a handy woman. I do

715
00:42:39,450 --> 00:42:42,480
floors, wallpaper paint,
electricity gardens, I help

716
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,620
people move vendor out. I do
this because I like the work.

717
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,550
But every single job we do, the
client is always commenting on

718
00:42:50,550 --> 00:42:54,120
how strong I am. Where they
never were. They never do this

719
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,420
to my male co workers at least
once a month I get asked in one

720
00:42:57,420 --> 00:43:01,470
way or the other if I'm gay. I'm
not. People always are

721
00:43:01,470 --> 00:43:04,770
questioning my femininity until
they see me in a dress. Why

722
00:43:04,770 --> 00:43:08,520
can't I be strong and feminine.
At the same time, the daughter

723
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,070
of a dear friend of mine was
struggling with their gender

724
00:43:11,070 --> 00:43:14,790
identity when she was 12. Though
she wanted to thought she wanted

725
00:43:14,790 --> 00:43:17,760
to be a boy. But when I talked
to her alone, she said she

726
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:22,350
didn't want to be pushed into a
woman's role. At the same time,

727
00:43:22,350 --> 00:43:24,990
she was already seeing a
therapist Of course, school was

728
00:43:24,990 --> 00:43:28,110
already confirming she could be
everything she wants to be. But

729
00:43:28,110 --> 00:43:31,260
I think all she wanted to be was
just herself and for that not

730
00:43:31,260 --> 00:43:35,400
judged by society. And I can
totally relate to that. Maybe if

731
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,790
we stop the expectation that
women must be pink princesses we

732
00:43:38,790 --> 00:43:45,090
could at least solve part of the
problem. Love your show. Yeah, I

733
00:43:45,090 --> 00:43:54,330
think that's wise words. Very
wise words. Yeah. So that's all

734
00:43:54,330 --> 00:43:56,700
I really have to say. I mean,
there's lots of other stuff.

735
00:43:56,700 --> 00:44:00,540
Pottery Barn. Nike, everyone's
in trouble. Everyone's in

736
00:44:00,540 --> 00:44:05,160
trouble, trouble, trouble
trouble. I did want to read this

737
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:06,870
one blurb that

738
00:44:07,050 --> 00:44:09,210
John C Dvorak: I liked the ones
there's there's a whole slew of

739
00:44:09,210 --> 00:44:12,330
these. I had one somebody sent
me. Another one of these. I put

740
00:44:12,330 --> 00:44:17,880
one in the newsletter. All these
next Sunday is Father's Day.

741
00:44:18,750 --> 00:44:21,360
Yes. I hope we get more
donations than we did today.

742
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:21,750
Holy

743
00:44:21,750 --> 00:44:22,710
Adam Curry: crap, kidding.

744
00:44:25,260 --> 00:44:28,290
John C Dvorak: There's all these
companies that are sending out

745
00:44:28,290 --> 00:44:31,680
these emails pre eat pre
Father's Day email saying if you

746
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,710
don't want to get any Father's
Day stuff, let us know. We know

747
00:44:34,710 --> 00:44:39,510
it's offensive to a lot of you.
This is when did Father's Day

748
00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:40,590
become offensive?

749
00:44:43,050 --> 00:44:43,980
Adam Curry: Recently,

750
00:44:44,790 --> 00:44:46,770
John C Dvorak: just this year,
as far as I can tell, it's like

751
00:44:46,770 --> 00:44:48,600
just the next next step.

752
00:44:48,630 --> 00:44:50,100
Adam Curry: I don't recall it
from previous

753
00:44:50,100 --> 00:44:52,020
John C Dvorak: years. No, this
is all new.

754
00:44:52,710 --> 00:45:00,210
Adam Curry: So, Elliott page,
formerly known as Ellen pay sure

755
00:45:00,210 --> 00:45:03,930
think gelid yet Elon did an
interview with Los Angeles Times

756
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:12,690
and discussed Ellen's Elliott's
transition to transition, and

757
00:45:12,690 --> 00:45:16,740
I'm just going to read verbatim
from this new LA Times piece.

758
00:45:17,490 --> 00:45:21,420
One night he tried to knock
himself out, took his knuckles

759
00:45:21,420 --> 00:45:25,380
to his face and pounded over and
over again until bruises formed.

760
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,100
Four days after he sat in a lawn
chair on the porch ashamed, his

761
00:45:29,100 --> 00:45:33,270
face sore, and then he heard a
voice. You don't have to feel

762
00:45:33,270 --> 00:45:36,960
this way. It was a small voice
barely discernible, but it kept

763
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:41,460
echoing in his head away out. It
was as if something in my brain

764
00:45:41,460 --> 00:45:45,630
turned around recalls page now
36, the agonizing voice saying

765
00:45:45,630 --> 00:45:48,750
no, you're not. No, you can't
just switch and become very

766
00:45:48,750 --> 00:45:52,260
gentle and loving. Oh, maybe I'm
trans. Why don't I explore that.

767
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,560
Within weeks, he'd scheduled a
zoom consultation with a doctor

768
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,680
to discuss top surgery. The
procedure was scheduled for

769
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,260
November a month later, he
announced fans on Instagram who

770
00:46:01,260 --> 00:46:04,440
have known him since the release
of Juno 13 years prior that his

771
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:09,030
name was Elliot. There's
something else going on here.

772
00:46:09,090 --> 00:46:14,730
This is a mental condition that
led to this analysis by a zoom

773
00:46:14,730 --> 00:46:19,230
consult consultant. If if you
are pounding yourself in the

774
00:46:19,230 --> 00:46:22,800
face, there's something else
there's something going on that

775
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,280
needs to be looked at. And the
answer just can't be top surgery

776
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:32,040
every single time. I just found
that shocking that that that

777
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:36,150
that's I was hearing voices. I
was pounding my face tops,

778
00:46:36,330 --> 00:46:40,440
John C Dvorak: hearing voices.
You get issues

779
00:46:40,470 --> 00:46:44,580
Adam Curry: could be autism can
be all kinds of stuff. It's just

780
00:46:44,610 --> 00:46:47,700
John C Dvorak: wow. Well, autism
isn't necessarily connected to

781
00:46:47,700 --> 00:46:48,930
hearing voices. But

782
00:46:48,930 --> 00:46:51,150
Adam Curry: it could be I'm just
saying it seems like there's

783
00:46:51,150 --> 00:46:55,920
something going on. The main
thing is that maybe we need to

784
00:46:56,070 --> 00:46:57,210
look at the point.

785
00:46:57,210 --> 00:46:59,640
John C Dvorak: Well, let me let
me this back up. So you're,

786
00:46:59,970 --> 00:47:04,140
you're there pounding yourself
in the face with your own fist.

787
00:47:04,890 --> 00:47:07,380
And you can't stop yourself and
you're here and you're starting

788
00:47:07,380 --> 00:47:11,100
to hear voices. And the
conclusion is, there's something

789
00:47:11,100 --> 00:47:11,640
wrong. No, you

790
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,650
Adam Curry: need top surgery.
That's the conclusion. top

791
00:47:13,650 --> 00:47:16,920
surgery. 60 minutes, 60 minutes,
I'll do it. 60 minutes,

792
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,350
everybody hit their tunnels,
what's going on?

793
00:47:19,530 --> 00:47:22,920
Unknown: The US Surgeon General
has called it an urgent public

794
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,670
health crisis, a devastating
decline in the mental health of

795
00:47:26,670 --> 00:47:30,660
kids across the country.
According to the CDC, the rates

796
00:47:30,660 --> 00:47:35,490
of suicide, self harm, anxiety
and depression are up among

797
00:47:35,490 --> 00:47:39,270
adolescents stop surgery for all
of you a trend that began before

798
00:47:39,270 --> 00:47:43,830
the pandemic. Last May, we took
you to Milwaukee, Wisconsin, a

799
00:47:43,830 --> 00:47:47,280
community trying to help its
kids navigate a mental health

800
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:52,080
crisis. Wisconsin has the fifth
highest increase of adolescent

801
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:56,040
self harm and attempted suicide
in the country, with rates

802
00:47:56,070 --> 00:47:59,010
nearly doubling since before the
pandemic.

803
00:47:59,490 --> 00:48:01,680
Adam Curry: So that's the lead
in you can watch the whole

804
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,190
thing. But I thought more
interesting is how these

805
00:48:05,190 --> 00:48:10,530
children are being treated
initially. According to Dr. Jen

806
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,390
from ABCs. Good Morning,
America,

807
00:48:12,420 --> 00:48:15,420
Unknown: Dr. Chan back with us.
And we're starting to see a

808
00:48:15,420 --> 00:48:18,630
difference in the way that
anxiety is being treated. This

809
00:48:18,630 --> 00:48:19,890
has kind of evolved over time

810
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,800
in the pediatric population. And
this is based on a new study

811
00:48:22,830 --> 00:48:24,990
done by the American Academy of
Pediatrics

812
00:48:25,050 --> 00:48:28,050
Adam Curry: now the academy,
American Academy of Pediatrics.

813
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:32,940
Yeah, they can commission a
study. They are a a business

814
00:48:32,940 --> 00:48:36,510
group. Let's just make that
clear. They're a business group.

815
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,610
They're a lobbying group. Yeah,
it's

816
00:48:38,610 --> 00:48:39,960
John C Dvorak: a lobbying
operation. So

817
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,940
Adam Curry: it's not like
they're the pharma company. Yes,

818
00:48:41,940 --> 00:48:43,350
thank you all over time

819
00:48:43,380 --> 00:48:45,540
Unknown: in the pediatric
population. And this is based on

820
00:48:45,540 --> 00:48:48,720
a new study done by the American
Academy of Pediatrics, and they

821
00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:53,130
looked at children of all ages
up into the age of 24, over the

822
00:48:53,130 --> 00:48:57,090
last 10 plus years or so, and
looked at provider.

823
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:06,390
John C Dvorak: Yes, children at
the age of 24. That's what they

824
00:49:06,390 --> 00:49:10,950
call what Luke considers a 24
year old, a child.

825
00:49:10,980 --> 00:49:12,750
Adam Curry: Well, these are the
ones who are still living at

826
00:49:12,750 --> 00:49:13,890
home with their parents.

827
00:49:15,420 --> 00:49:17,040
John C Dvorak: I don't care if
they're living, I don't care

828
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,580
where they're living at 24 years
old, no matter how you're

829
00:49:20,580 --> 00:49:24,060
living. You're not a child.

830
00:49:24,300 --> 00:49:27,150
Adam Curry: I would say
according to the insurance rules

831
00:49:27,150 --> 00:49:29,490
you are because you're allowed
to stay on your parent's

832
00:49:29,490 --> 00:49:34,890
insurance until 26. That's
probably why this is looked at

833
00:49:34,890 --> 00:49:37,890
as children, but I not that I'm
arguing with you,

834
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,610
Unknown: children of all ages,
up until the age of 24, over the

835
00:49:41,610 --> 00:49:46,950
last 10 plus years or so, and
looked at provider trends,

836
00:49:46,980 --> 00:49:49,680
Adam Curry: provider trends.
It's not a doctor, it's the guy

837
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,340
you talk to on your on your
telemedicine app

838
00:49:53,460 --> 00:49:56,460
Unknown: of treatment. So after
these office visit encounters

839
00:49:56,460 --> 00:49:59,550
for anxiety in particular, the
rates of which were going up

840
00:49:59,610 --> 00:50:03,870
slowly li over that time period,
but focused on treatment. And

841
00:50:03,870 --> 00:50:07,080
what they found is if you take
four options, no treatment at

842
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,590
all, treatment with just
prescription anti anxiety

843
00:50:10,590 --> 00:50:14,940
medication, treatment with just
psychotherapy or counseling,

844
00:50:14,970 --> 00:50:19,740
talk therapy, or a combination
of medication and therapy, that

845
00:50:19,740 --> 00:50:23,760
kids are more likely to either
get no treatment at all, or just

846
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,240
be given their parents a
prescription for anti anxiety

847
00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:31,410
medication. So I think there's
so many things here that we can

848
00:50:31,410 --> 00:50:34,140
take from this study number one
that this population is

849
00:50:34,140 --> 00:50:36,720
struggling, we've known that
we've talked about it before.

850
00:50:36,900 --> 00:50:39,360
It's great that their parents
are bringing them to the

851
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,530
pediatricians office for an
assessment of that. But then

852
00:50:43,620 --> 00:50:47,250
what to do about it. And to be
clear part of it is because

853
00:50:47,250 --> 00:50:50,610
there's not enough resources out
there for them to be referred to

854
00:50:50,610 --> 00:50:54,600
therapists. But I always say
think of this as not one or the

855
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,710
other medication absolutely can
be safe, effective, appropriate

856
00:50:58,710 --> 00:51:03,240
in some cases. But ideally, it's
a holistic view, where you do

857
00:51:03,630 --> 00:51:07,740
therapy medication if it's
needed, and then follow up. And

858
00:51:07,740 --> 00:51:10,350
right now it looks like in this
population, it's either a

859
00:51:10,350 --> 00:51:12,900
nothing or a prescription. And
what about parents who are

860
00:51:12,900 --> 00:51:16,230
concerned about medication can
kids meditate? They can be

861
00:51:16,230 --> 00:51:19,530
taught to medicate to meditate,
which is really important. And I

862
00:51:19,530 --> 00:51:20,640
think parents need to ask

863
00:51:20,670 --> 00:51:23,250
Adam Curry: nice, nice little
gaff, nice little gaff there.

864
00:51:23,250 --> 00:51:24,120
And let's do it again.

865
00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:26,760
Unknown: And right now it looks
like in this population, it's

866
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,100
either a nothing or a
prescription. And what about

867
00:51:29,100 --> 00:51:31,770
parents who are concerned about
medication can kids meditate,

868
00:51:32,130 --> 00:51:35,550
they can be taught to medicate
to meditate, which is really

869
00:51:35,550 --> 00:51:38,190
important. And I think parents
need to ask if a medication is

870
00:51:38,190 --> 00:51:41,280
prescribed risks, benefits and
have that conversation.

871
00:51:41,580 --> 00:51:43,650
Adam Curry: I'm not gonna I'm
not gonna call out any of these

872
00:51:43,650 --> 00:51:47,550
tele medicines by name because I
can't prove it. But the way I

873
00:51:47,550 --> 00:51:51,660
feel that most of them are
working, is you know, they have

874
00:51:51,900 --> 00:51:55,560
nice names like talk, talk with
a friend or whatever, you get

875
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:59,940
your app and then you talk to a
licensed or a provider or

876
00:51:59,940 --> 00:52:03,330
whatever it is, and they have
three consultations with you and

877
00:52:03,330 --> 00:52:06,600
then they sign off on the drugs
and then from the drugs. I think

878
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,750
you go to the next logical step,
which is well maybe you need

879
00:52:09,750 --> 00:52:13,740
some surgery, or some or some
hormones because you're in the

880
00:52:13,740 --> 00:52:16,500
wrong body. That seems like
that's that's the system the

881
00:52:16,500 --> 00:52:19,320
system is doing this. And
because you've got people like

882
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:23,880
Dr. Jenn with a lab coat now on
Good Morning America, like oh,

883
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:25,950
well, well, this is this is
righteous. This is the way it

884
00:52:25,950 --> 00:52:29,820
should go. I mean, I didn't die
from my booster shot yet. In the

885
00:52:29,850 --> 00:52:34,200
in the UK, which I now think is
the new the new test ground for

886
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:38,730
everything they did going all
out in the United Kingdom. The

887
00:52:38,730 --> 00:52:44,130
NHS is trialing a, an electrics
headset for treating depression.

888
00:52:44,670 --> 00:52:49,320
Oh, it's called electroshock
therapy. So well, we'll just try

889
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:54,900
that should be fine. No, no
problem over there. And the UK

890
00:52:54,900 --> 00:53:02,370
is in Super crisis. We've got
44% More people dying from heart

891
00:53:02,370 --> 00:53:08,610
failure since pre pandemic.
Okay, I mean, no reason to look

892
00:53:08,610 --> 00:53:15,330
into that. But the diabetic or
the obesity crisis is what's

893
00:53:15,330 --> 00:53:20,010
really gotten the cottonwood
taken the country by storm. Now

894
00:53:20,010 --> 00:53:23,790
having lived in the UK for five
years, I can say, in general,

895
00:53:24,060 --> 00:53:30,840
they eat crap. They eat you
know, fast food from Tescos from

896
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:36,240
the gas station, it's it's a lot
a lot of processed food, that

897
00:53:36,450 --> 00:53:41,490
starch love star just and yes,
they're obese. But you know,

898
00:53:41,490 --> 00:53:44,460
there's a couple things you
could do. I mean, yes, your diet

899
00:53:44,460 --> 00:53:46,860
and exercise, but you it's
really the intake, it's what

900
00:53:46,860 --> 00:53:50,100
they're eating. It's not about
it's not so much about diet, but

901
00:53:50,100 --> 00:53:54,090
doesn't matter, because we now
have the fix for everything.

902
00:53:54,660 --> 00:53:57,240
Unknown: obesity related
conditions are a significant

903
00:53:57,240 --> 00:54:00,840
challenge worldwide. It also
takes a toll on economies and

904
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:05,070
national incomes. UK alone loses
about six and a half billion

905
00:54:05,070 --> 00:54:06,000
pounds per year.

906
00:54:06,540 --> 00:54:09,000
Adam Curry: Now we're taking to
the economics we're using, we're

907
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,000
losing six and a half billion
pounds per year because people

908
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:12,510
are fat.

909
00:54:12,810 --> 00:54:16,050
Unknown: UK alone loses about
six and a half billion pounds

910
00:54:16,050 --> 00:54:20,760
per year and direct costs the
National Health Service 28% of

911
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,730
the country's population is
estimated to be living with

912
00:54:23,730 --> 00:54:28,230
obesity. According to 2019
health survey that is, so the

913
00:54:28,230 --> 00:54:31,920
country is now ruling out an
ambitious plan. It is going to

914
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:36,000
provide access to weight loss
drug free of cost, which is

915
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,240
fitting the criteria of being
diabetic or obese will be

916
00:54:39,240 --> 00:54:43,230
prescribed the injection called
semaglutide for a period of two

917
00:54:43,230 --> 00:54:46,620
years, that is the clinical
trials of the drug which is

918
00:54:46,620 --> 00:54:50,880
marketed as we go V so the
treatment can help adults lose

919
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:55,290
up to 15% of the weight that is
when prescribed alongside diet

920
00:54:55,290 --> 00:54:59,490
and physical activity.
semaglutide is a molecule which

921
00:54:59,490 --> 00:55:02,670
mimics an naturally occurring
substance within the body that

922
00:55:02,670 --> 00:55:05,700
circulates in our blood and
signals to our brain that we

923
00:55:05,700 --> 00:55:06,930
have eaten and we are fooled.

924
00:55:07,710 --> 00:55:10,980
So what this drug does is it
heightens the levels of this

925
00:55:10,980 --> 00:55:15,210
hormone that are naturally
occurring it we get this drill

926
00:55:15,210 --> 00:55:18,270
we get this hormone in much
greater levels than what we

927
00:55:18,270 --> 00:55:21,480
would normally do. And it gives
that brain that that really big

928
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,750
boost that we are no longer
hungry and that we don't need to

929
00:55:24,750 --> 00:55:28,410
eat so it's suppressing appetite
and suppressing appetite in a

930
00:55:28,410 --> 00:55:33,030
way that we have not seen before
in other drugs. Really that's

931
00:55:33,030 --> 00:55:36,960
the that's the main way in which
this drug is working.

932
00:55:37,950 --> 00:55:42,600
Adam Curry: Okay, so this is a
brain drug it tells your brain

933
00:55:42,630 --> 00:55:45,900
your full you don't need to eat.
This is probably why it also

934
00:55:45,900 --> 00:55:49,260
cures addiction. Ate apparently
now according to studies cures

935
00:55:49,260 --> 00:55:52,650
long COVID I mean, this is a
miracle. We should be giving

936
00:55:52,650 --> 00:55:56,700
this away for free. Yeah, we're
talking about ozempic Well,

937
00:55:57,180 --> 00:55:59,220
which it's it's all the same.

938
00:56:00,030 --> 00:56:03,120
John C Dvorak: Yeah. ozempic we
go V right. bellus Whatever.

939
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,520
There's a bunch of them. It's
all there. ozempic is the one

940
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:05,790
that

941
00:56:05,970 --> 00:56:09,240
Adam Curry: got the well that's
that's that's their promotion,

942
00:56:10,020 --> 00:56:14,460
but the long COVID is a we go V
promotion in the UK. It seems to

943
00:56:14,460 --> 00:56:17,190
be curing long. COVID Actually,

944
00:56:17,250 --> 00:56:19,080
John C Dvorak: this is all the
same. They're all the same. They

945
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:20,970
all have the semaglutide stuff.

946
00:56:21,150 --> 00:56:24,780
Adam Curry: There's actually a
new one that is trying to weasel

947
00:56:24,780 --> 00:56:29,970
in on the O ozempic Magic
jingle, though do you know what

948
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,570
those guys gotta catch the
jingle now we've got

949
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:34,680
John C Dvorak: a bizarre theory

950
00:56:37,500 --> 00:56:41,130
Adam Curry: this is the meeting
they had dojos MP got look Dave

951
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,220
we got a pill we're better than
them. We got a pill. What can we

952
00:56:44,220 --> 00:56:45,480
do we need a catchy jingle

953
00:56:45,510 --> 00:56:48,360
Unknown: I have type two
diabetes, but I managed it well.

954
00:56:49,050 --> 00:56:53,460
It'll kill with a big story to
tell me my take one stealing

955
00:56:53,460 --> 00:57:00,060
Jardiance was easy to see.

956
00:57:04,020 --> 00:57:07,800
Jordans works 24/7 in your body
to flush out some sugar. And for

957
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,680
adults with type two diabetes
and heart disease Jardiance can

958
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,980
lower the risk of cardiovascular
deaths to Jardiance may cause

959
00:57:13,980 --> 00:57:16,770
serious side effects including
ketoacidosis that may be fatal

960
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,990
dehydration that can lead to
sudden worsening of kidney

961
00:57:18,990 --> 00:57:22,200
function. In general, these are
urinary tract infections, a rare

962
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,090
life threatening bacterial
infection and the skin of the

963
00:57:24,090 --> 00:57:27,060
perineum could occur. That's
your taint taking Jardiance and

964
00:57:27,060 --> 00:57:29,040
call your doctor right away if
you have symptoms of this

965
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,370
infection ketoacidosis or an
allergic reaction and don't take

966
00:57:32,370 --> 00:57:35,160
it across dialysis, taking
Jardiance with us upon your REO

967
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:36,600
or insulin may low blood sugar.

968
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,910
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's the
little pill with a big story to

969
00:57:44,910 --> 00:57:50,100
tell. It's really, really quite
lame.

970
00:57:53,250 --> 00:57:57,090
John C Dvorak: Actually, looking
at this a different drug. Yes.

971
00:57:57,090 --> 00:57:57,510
In the

972
00:57:58,740 --> 00:58:00,600
Adam Curry: same place the same
active ingredient?

973
00:58:00,900 --> 00:58:06,060
John C Dvorak: No, no. Yes. Did
you look at Oh, it's this is M M

974
00:58:06,090 --> 00:58:09,960
PE ligula flows. And this is a
totally different animal.

975
00:58:09,990 --> 00:58:13,020
Adam Curry: I apologize. I
thought it was the same. No,

976
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:14,880
John C Dvorak: you can't take
the other stuff has to be

977
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:15,450
injected.

978
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,780
Adam Curry: Not according to
Pfizer. Pfizer says they're

979
00:58:18,780 --> 00:58:21,030
gonna have one that is not
injected. They're gonna Well

980
00:58:21,030 --> 00:58:21,240
good

981
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,870
John C Dvorak: for them. They're
the best. I want to read about

982
00:58:24,870 --> 00:58:27,000
the giardia and other side
effects.

983
00:58:27,570 --> 00:58:28,890
Adam Curry: I'd like to
perennial

984
00:58:30,060 --> 00:58:32,430
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, that's
how does that happen? My other

985
00:58:32,430 --> 00:58:36,240
thing. The thing I've also been
baffled by is how many of these

986
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:40,590
disease these diseases Yeah,
that's a faux PA. How many of

987
00:58:40,590 --> 00:58:46,710
these pills these cures are
caused TB? Oh, you noticed this

988
00:58:46,710 --> 00:58:50,070
on these thing all it can cause
TB if you ever had TB, oh, you

989
00:58:50,070 --> 00:58:53,220
can get TB. How do you get
tuberculosis more

990
00:58:53,220 --> 00:58:56,160
Adam Curry: there's, there's the
viral tuberculosis and then

991
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,260
there's just some other
tuberculosis. You may go through

992
00:58:58,260 --> 00:58:58,380
this

993
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,230
John C Dvorak: sunbae with this.
So here's the common side

994
00:59:01,230 --> 00:59:04,200
effects of this stuff.
Hyperventilation anorexia.

995
00:59:04,650 --> 00:59:07,320
That's a good one. That's
there's your weight loss.

996
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,420
Adam Curry: There's your weight
loss right there.

997
00:59:09,779 --> 00:59:13,529
John C Dvorak: abdominal pain,
nausea, vomiting, which is

998
00:59:13,529 --> 00:59:18,389
anorexia. lethargy, mental
status changes. That's a good

999
00:59:18,389 --> 00:59:19,019
one. Mental

1000
00:59:19,020 --> 00:59:22,440
Adam Curry: status change. Ms.
Yeah, I like it. mentally.

1001
00:59:22,470 --> 00:59:25,380
John C Dvorak: I like that
mental hypotension, hypotension,

1002
00:59:25,380 --> 00:59:30,150
acute kidney injury. That's
great. And vagina. vaginal yeast

1003
00:59:30,150 --> 00:59:33,960
infections. Rare but more
serious side effects include a

1004
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:42,030
skin infection of the groin and
a form of diabetes. A

1005
00:59:42,030 --> 00:59:47,280
ketoacidosis which is something
you don't want to get no. Yeah,

1006
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:48,150
no as a different drug

1007
00:59:48,150 --> 00:59:51,630
Adam Curry: we so we have eight
Wigo V represent they have the

1008
00:59:51,630 --> 00:59:54,420
jingle. Do they have a good
jingle? What Goby needs that but

1009
00:59:54,420 --> 00:59:58,020
we have a go V representative
who presented themselves to the

1010
00:59:58,020 --> 01:00:01,770
show, saying asked me anything I
said I have nothing to ask.

1011
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,790
Smelling a trap. I said I have
nothing to ask. So why don't you

1012
01:00:05,820 --> 01:00:08,940
if there's something relevant
let me know. And our will go V

1013
01:00:08,940 --> 01:00:11,940
representative came back and I'd
like to read this short email,

1014
01:00:12,570 --> 01:00:15,120
quick background or I've 20 plus
years in the pharmaceutical

1015
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,670
industry three years selling
diabetes meds ozempic,

1016
01:00:17,670 --> 01:00:21,090
specifically for Novo Nordisk,
and for years selling obesity

1017
01:00:21,090 --> 01:00:24,570
medications for a govi ozempic
And we'll go over are the same

1018
01:00:24,570 --> 01:00:28,860
molecule, so magnitude
semaglutide. For simplicity

1019
01:00:28,860 --> 01:00:32,010
sake, ozempic is dosed at
slightly lower doses for glucose

1020
01:00:32,010 --> 01:00:35,610
control of type two diabetics.
While we go V is dosed slightly

1021
01:00:35,610 --> 01:00:40,530
higher to have greater impact in
the hypo, in the hypothalamus

1022
01:00:40,530 --> 01:00:42,570
for obesity, does that mean
anything to you?

1023
01:00:44,310 --> 01:00:46,080
John C Dvorak: It hits the brain
harder.

1024
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,140
Adam Curry: There you go.
ozempic is not indicated for

1025
01:00:49,140 --> 01:00:52,410
obesity ozempic is only
indicated for glucose control

1026
01:00:52,410 --> 01:00:57,120
type two diabetes. All anti
obesity medications will require

1027
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,870
the prescribing provider
provider to fill out a prior

1028
01:01:00,870 --> 01:01:04,380
authorization with offices being
understaffed and in general

1029
01:01:04,410 --> 01:01:06,930
people will take the path of
least resistance about a third

1030
01:01:06,930 --> 01:01:10,320
of all ozempic prescriptions are
going to patients who do not

1031
01:01:10,470 --> 01:01:14,760
have type two diabetes.
Employers have to opt in for

1032
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:19,170
anti obesity medication coverage
so significantly more patients

1033
01:01:19,170 --> 01:01:23,160
have insurance coverage for
ozempic Then we'll go V insurers

1034
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:26,550
have caught on and now cracking
down on the use of ozempic

1035
01:01:26,580 --> 01:01:30,210
outside of the type two diabetes
indication so if you want to if

1036
01:01:30,210 --> 01:01:31,470
you want it you better yeah,

1037
01:01:31,470 --> 01:01:37,260
John C Dvorak: this is I have to
say I like this note me to carry

1038
01:01:37,260 --> 01:01:40,920
ciders. The scoop? Is this a
scoop this the inside dope?

1039
01:01:41,970 --> 01:01:44,280
Adam Curry: We're gonna get shut
down so hard. You're the Big

1040
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:48,870
Pharma is a mess around man. It
is frustrating on my end to

1041
01:01:48,870 --> 01:01:52,290
continually hear the M five M
use weight loss drugs and

1042
01:01:52,290 --> 01:01:54,060
ozempic synonymously

1043
01:01:54,450 --> 01:01:57,420
John C Dvorak: Of course I've
brought this up myself when they

1044
01:01:57,450 --> 01:02:00,420
when they use it synonymously I
have caught this on certain

1045
01:02:00,420 --> 01:02:03,900
reports and I've said it's not a
weight loss drug.

1046
01:02:05,130 --> 01:02:07,170
Adam Curry: I'm in complete
agreement, but they're just

1047
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:10,110
they're marketing it as such now
they've just gone even though

1048
01:02:10,110 --> 01:02:10,200
it's

1049
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:13,470
John C Dvorak: because the
ozempic people are good not

1050
01:02:13,470 --> 01:02:17,160
to.to put down our sales guy
here or girl I don't know

1051
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:19,710
salesperson not to put down to
do a better job.

1052
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,800
Adam Curry: They do Yeah, they
got to they got to snap we could

1053
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,230
probably come up with we'll have
to think about what can we do

1054
01:02:25,230 --> 01:02:27,420
for a way cov jingle what what

1055
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,120
John C Dvorak: we already have
we can we can just say hey,

1056
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:33,870
Blanchett go talk to Jeff. Hire
him.

1057
01:02:35,700 --> 01:02:39,120
Adam Curry: The Jeff smith.com
Hire Jeff he'll come up with a

1058
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:43,290
really snappy song for you. To
make everyone wants to use with

1059
01:02:43,290 --> 01:02:45,270
COVID would go v would go v
would go V

1060
01:02:45,420 --> 01:02:47,760
John C Dvorak: COVID or whatever
it's called. I can't even

1061
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:48,420
pronounce it.

1062
01:02:48,450 --> 01:02:51,960
Adam Curry: It is yeah, your
name is a problem. It is

1063
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,930
frustrating on my end to
continually hear the M five M

1064
01:02:54,930 --> 01:02:58,170
use weight loss drugs as and
ozempic synonymously. This has

1065
01:02:58,170 --> 01:03:01,710
been an issue for almost two
years. I believe cart corporate

1066
01:03:01,710 --> 01:03:05,100
should do a far better job and
clarification. However, with

1067
01:03:05,100 --> 01:03:08,010
more patients having insurance
access to ozempic than would go

1068
01:03:08,010 --> 01:03:13,170
V is their financial incentive
not to clarify, good point. In

1069
01:03:13,170 --> 01:03:15,480
my career, I've never
represented a product that has

1070
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:19,290
positively impacted people as
much as we're govi I routinely

1071
01:03:19,290 --> 01:03:22,230
hear stories of dramatic weight
loss hips and knees feeling

1072
01:03:22,230 --> 01:03:26,100
better and the ability to be
more active. I have never had a

1073
01:03:26,100 --> 01:03:30,120
physician bring up ozempic face
but discuss the potential side

1074
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:32,820
effects during every
interaction. It is also

1075
01:03:32,820 --> 01:03:36,150
important to note that Novo
Nordisk does not sell some

1076
01:03:36,150 --> 01:03:39,990
maculata semaglutide wholesale
and still actively holds the

1077
01:03:39,990 --> 01:03:43,890
patent there's your investment
opportunity. So I do not know

1078
01:03:43,890 --> 01:03:48,030
what the compound semaglutide
that some compounding pharmacies

1079
01:03:48,030 --> 01:03:52,020
are offering is the only fact is
it is not originating from Novo

1080
01:03:52,020 --> 01:03:55,020
Nordisk, or there's another good
piece of information.

1081
01:03:56,340 --> 01:03:57,660
John C Dvorak: Oh, that's
interesting.

1082
01:03:57,690 --> 01:04:00,210
Adam Curry: So they may be using
something different since they

1083
01:04:00,630 --> 01:04:04,440
did they don't have the patent?
They can't use the patented

1084
01:04:05,790 --> 01:04:10,380
powder, whatever it is. Thank
you so much for sharing this

1085
01:04:10,380 --> 01:04:13,800
with us. And if there's anything
more we go astray, and we'll

1086
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:17,220
certainly work on Oh, we look
forward to it. Yeah. And we'll

1087
01:04:17,220 --> 01:04:22,680
work on on it. There's got to be
Wigo this kind of govia will go

1088
01:04:22,710 --> 01:04:24,540
is it will go via will go via

1089
01:04:24,660 --> 01:04:26,700
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he can't
even you'll never get it.

1090
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,250
Adam Curry: Now we'll come up
with something we'll come up

1091
01:04:29,250 --> 01:04:36,570
with something. And then a quick
rectification regarding the RSV

1092
01:04:36,570 --> 01:04:41,640
vaccine numbers placebo versus
efficacy rates. It's even worse

1093
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,370
than we thought in the morning
if you've received emails like

1094
01:04:44,370 --> 01:04:46,740
this already, but I noticed
something in the show and

1095
01:04:46,740 --> 01:04:49,260
discussing the RSV vaccines that
I felt was important to bring to

1096
01:04:49,260 --> 01:04:52,230
your attention. The rates and
percentages that were close but

1097
01:04:52,230 --> 01:04:56,460
slightly higher in the vaccines
were rates of preterm births,

1098
01:04:56,790 --> 01:04:59,970
not efficacy rates. So even
though they're close to number

1099
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:04,470
The RSV vaccines are causing
premature births and Dez. Thanks

1100
01:05:04,470 --> 01:05:10,620
for the show. We look forward to
each next episode. This is I

1101
01:05:10,620 --> 01:05:15,690
mean wow, we even got to buy
that. We even got screwed.

1102
01:05:16,350 --> 01:05:18,570
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't
think we got screwed and we

1103
01:05:18,570 --> 01:05:21,180
noticed that he would those
numbers were still so close. It

1104
01:05:21,180 --> 01:05:25,080
wasn't worth even playing with.
Yeah. Wow.

1105
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:32,310
Adam Curry: Anyway, that's your
big farm update. Carry on. Keep

1106
01:05:32,310 --> 01:05:35,670
taking the pills every night.
Good luck. Yeah. Everything's

1107
01:05:35,670 --> 01:05:43,200
gonna be just fine. Just fine. I
have a super clip of the Trump

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01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:46,710
indictment. It's a little long,
but it kind of covers everything

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01:05:46,710 --> 01:05:47,910
if you want to do that now.

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01:05:48,990 --> 01:05:50,850
John C Dvorak: I'm looking to
see if there's anything I got on

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01:05:50,850 --> 01:05:51,690
drugs.

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01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,010
Adam Curry: It's probably a good
good moment to look at it now.

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01:05:56,010 --> 01:05:56,490
Yeah.

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01:05:58,740 --> 01:05:59,580
John C Dvorak: I'm good.

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01:06:00,209 --> 01:06:04,439
Adam Curry: Okay. This is from
the clip collector. Steve Jones,

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01:06:04,469 --> 01:06:07,559
brother of of Neal Jones. We got
the whole Jones family working

1117
01:06:07,559 --> 01:06:08,429
for us now tonight

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01:06:08,430 --> 01:06:11,190
Unknown: with breaking news that
appears for the first time in

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01:06:11,190 --> 01:06:14,730
American history and American
president has been indicted on

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01:06:14,730 --> 01:06:15,900
federal charges.

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01:06:15,930 --> 01:06:21,150
We begin tonight with a historic
moment in our nation's 247 years

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01:06:21,330 --> 01:06:25,200
of federal indictment revealing
extraordinary and grave criminal

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01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,980
counts facing Donald Trump and
the charges that his actions

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01:06:28,980 --> 01:06:32,070
have endangered US national
security. It is at historic

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01:06:32,070 --> 01:06:34,500
development. The first time a
former president has been

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01:06:34,500 --> 01:06:36,810
indicted on federal criminal
charges

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01:06:36,839 --> 01:06:39,809
tonight new details on the
stunning move by the Special

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01:06:39,809 --> 01:06:43,019
Counsel. The first federal
indictment of a former president

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01:06:43,169 --> 01:06:45,449
who's also the leading
Republican challenger to

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01:06:45,449 --> 01:06:46,769
President Biden tonight

1131
01:06:46,770 --> 01:06:50,850
is a blistering 49 Page federal
indictment unsealed by the

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01:06:50,850 --> 01:06:53,850
Special Counsel blessed the
first ever Federalist criminal

1133
01:06:53,850 --> 01:06:57,210
charges against a former
president of the United States

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01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:00,720
after a parade of witnesses and
to grand juries. The government

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01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:04,290
tonight is showing its hand in
its classified document case.

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01:07:04,620 --> 01:07:08,910
37 counts against Donald Trump
including the voluminous

1137
01:07:08,910 --> 01:07:12,600
evidence prosecutors notice in
an investigation that lasted

1138
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:13,410
more than a year

1139
01:07:13,439 --> 01:07:17,189
we are told the range of those
charges includes obstruction,

1140
01:07:17,309 --> 01:07:19,979
willful retention of documents
related to our national

1141
01:07:19,979 --> 01:07:23,369
security, false statements
conspiracy unsealing a

1142
01:07:23,370 --> 01:07:26,970
37 count indictment alleging
that after leaving the White

1143
01:07:26,970 --> 01:07:30,720
House, Mr. Trump illegally
possessed classified government

1144
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:32,100
materials at his Mar a

1145
01:07:32,100 --> 01:07:35,280
Lago home and sources telling
NBC News Trump is facing

1146
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:38,940
multiple counts ranging from
illegal retention of government

1147
01:07:38,940 --> 01:07:42,360
documents to conspiracy to
obstruction of the government's

1148
01:07:42,390 --> 01:07:45,480
efforts to retrieve those
documents. The indictment marks

1149
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:48,510
the first time an American
president has faced federal

1150
01:07:48,510 --> 01:07:49,560
charges. Prosecutors

1151
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:52,140
alleged the former president
took dozens of boxes to mar a

1152
01:07:52,140 --> 01:07:55,860
Lago and the indictment included
images of those boxes allegedly

1153
01:07:55,860 --> 01:07:59,340
stored in a ballroom, a bathroom
a shower, a storage room. The

1154
01:07:59,340 --> 01:07:59,880
boxes

1155
01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:03,120
were stored in various places
around Mr. Trump's Mar a Lago

1156
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:06,570
home and office space, his
bedroom and a storage room.

1157
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:09,990
We are also seeing for the first
time photos of boxes containing

1158
01:08:09,990 --> 01:08:14,070
America's most sensitive secrets
scattered across Mar a Lago. One

1159
01:08:14,070 --> 01:08:16,500
picture shows documents spilled
onto the floor

1160
01:08:16,530 --> 01:08:19,770
another showing several
documents spilling out of a box

1161
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:24,480
piled carelessly in a bathroom,
tucked under a water pipe and on

1162
01:08:24,480 --> 01:08:25,680
a storage room floor.

1163
01:08:25,710 --> 01:08:28,920
The indictment describes the
documents spread out in boxes

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01:08:28,950 --> 01:08:33,480
across Mar a Lago and a
bathroom, a ballroom, a shower,

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01:08:33,660 --> 01:08:37,380
documenting everything from US
nuclear weapons to what would

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01:08:37,380 --> 01:08:39,630
happen if the US was attacked,
including

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01:08:39,630 --> 01:08:43,410
photos of boxes stored in the
open, some allegedly holding

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01:08:43,410 --> 01:08:47,190
descriptions of for nuclear
capabilities and US defenses

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01:08:47,219 --> 01:08:50,279
on the indictment today also
accuses Trump of illegally

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01:08:50,279 --> 01:08:54,299
holding documents concerning the
US nuclear program. And more top

1171
01:08:54,299 --> 01:08:56,069
secret Pentagon plans. Some of
the

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01:08:56,070 --> 01:09:00,240
documents prosecutors say were
marked top secret off limits to

1173
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:04,110
foreign nationals, some relating
to nuclear weapons capabilities

1174
01:09:04,140 --> 01:09:08,310
of the US and its adversaries as
well as sensitive US military

1175
01:09:08,310 --> 01:09:11,670
planning. Special Counsel Jack
Smith made his first public

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01:09:11,670 --> 01:09:14,280
statement about the
investigation but took no

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01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:15,030
questions.

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01:09:15,149 --> 01:09:18,179
We have one set of laws in this
country, and they apply to

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01:09:18,179 --> 01:09:20,219
everyone in my administration.

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01:09:20,519 --> 01:09:25,559
I'm going to enforce the laws
concerning the protection of

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01:09:25,589 --> 01:09:27,569
classified information.

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01:09:27,659 --> 01:09:32,189
Our laws that protect National
Defense Information are critical

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01:09:32,549 --> 01:09:36,749
to the safety and security of
the United States. And they must

1184
01:09:36,989 --> 01:09:42,209
be enforced. Violations of those
laws put our country at risk,

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01:09:42,270 --> 01:09:45,600
we would expect that he would
show up on Tuesday for an

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01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:49,860
arraignment. At that point he
would enter a formal plea of not

1187
01:09:49,860 --> 01:09:53,460
guilty as we would expect he has
maintained his innocence all

1188
01:09:53,460 --> 01:09:56,640
along. He could have the charges
read to him although in most

1189
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,970
cases he would agree to waive
that so you wouldn't actually he

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01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,100
your recitation of them Donald

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01:10:02,100 --> 01:10:05,100
Trump has been told to be in
Florida on Tuesday to appear in

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01:10:05,100 --> 01:10:07,050
federal court at 3pm.

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01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:11,430
As Sources tell NBC News Mr.
Trump has a court summons for

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01:10:11,430 --> 01:10:12,450
June 13.

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01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:16,440
He's been summoned to appear
before a judge next Tuesday.

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01:10:16,620 --> 01:10:19,530
Prosecutors telling the former
president he will be arraigned

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01:10:19,530 --> 01:10:21,210
in Miami on Tuesday.

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01:10:21,870 --> 01:10:24,960
Adam Curry: Now, there's your M
five M all perfectly on script

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01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,960
with some nice, nice blistering
like that voluminous. There's

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01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:30,210
John C Dvorak: some good stuff
in there. Now there's a couple

1201
01:10:30,210 --> 01:10:32,400
of I have a lot of clips about
this.

1202
01:10:32,430 --> 01:10:35,550
Adam Curry: Okay, good. But this
is important because this is

1203
01:10:35,580 --> 01:10:37,770
this is the deconstruction of
what you get is going to be

1204
01:10:37,770 --> 01:10:40,860
thrown in everyone's face for
the next six months.

1205
01:10:41,130 --> 01:10:43,770
John C Dvorak: Headley. I think
I think the cute little gotcha

1206
01:10:44,490 --> 01:10:47,820
is the fact that it's gonna go
before of in a Florida court

1207
01:10:48,030 --> 01:10:51,300
with a judge that was appointed
by Trump.

1208
01:10:51,780 --> 01:10:54,090
Adam Curry: It's well, don't you
think before you get to your

1209
01:10:54,090 --> 01:10:58,470
clips, the process here is
really the punishment. It's not

1210
01:10:58,650 --> 01:11:01,950
theirs. And we can get into the
legality of it and what there's

1211
01:11:01,950 --> 01:11:02,400
really, you

1212
01:11:02,610 --> 01:11:04,740
John C Dvorak: know, there,
there's plenty of punishment to

1213
01:11:04,740 --> 01:11:08,190
go around. Yeah. And this has to
be just the beginning. Can't let

1214
01:11:08,220 --> 01:11:10,170
they just cannot let Trump win
again,

1215
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:11,820
Adam Curry: that well, they know
they can't let him be the

1216
01:11:11,820 --> 01:11:12,720
nominee.

1217
01:11:13,440 --> 01:11:18,630
John C Dvorak: Yeah. So but the
god the little cute little

1218
01:11:18,630 --> 01:11:24,030
gotcha is this judge, because if
the whole case is a crap case,

1219
01:11:24,420 --> 01:11:27,360
and the judge throws it out,
everyone said just a Trump

1220
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:34,800
judge, of course. It goes
against Trump, and she finds she

1221
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:38,460
even Trump's own judge found him
guilty. It's

1222
01:11:38,460 --> 01:11:39,180
Adam Curry: a win win.

1223
01:11:39,630 --> 01:11:45,180
John C Dvorak: It's unbelievably
sly. I agree. It's very cute.

1224
01:11:45,180 --> 01:11:49,470
And and it's, that's we have to
note it early on as the scam

1225
01:11:49,470 --> 01:11:50,220
that it is.

1226
01:11:50,610 --> 01:11:54,480
Adam Curry: Yes. And I will also
note and we'll get to that in a

1227
01:11:54,480 --> 01:12:00,450
moment, CNN, it seems like the
firing of Chris Licht is only to

1228
01:12:00,450 --> 01:12:04,170
make sure that CNN is now just
hitting as hard on Trump as

1229
01:12:04,170 --> 01:12:09,000
possible and promoting DeSantis
seems to seems like the big

1230
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:13,530
money guys on the libertarian
conservative side. I know. I'm

1231
01:12:14,340 --> 01:12:18,870
just just assuming that the day
like we just gotta get Rhonda

1232
01:12:18,900 --> 01:12:19,290
in.

1233
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:25,830
John C Dvorak: I think so. I
mean, I don't know that but as

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01:12:25,830 --> 01:12:27,930
this just sounds right. Yeah.
Well, who looked at who bought

1235
01:12:27,930 --> 01:12:32,430
it? So let's start with a couple
of Yeah, discovery. Yeah. And

1236
01:12:32,430 --> 01:12:35,070
Malone. Well, it's been
background and Ben Miller was

1237
01:12:35,070 --> 01:12:38,400
never a Trump guy. He was a Koch
brothers guy,

1238
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:41,700
Adam Curry: but he's exactly
he's a big money. Republican.

1239
01:12:42,150 --> 01:12:43,260
Yeah. are different.

1240
01:12:43,350 --> 01:12:44,220
John C Dvorak: Yes.

1241
01:12:44,969 --> 01:12:46,199
Adam Curry: They're not Magga
man.

1242
01:12:48,570 --> 01:12:51,630
John C Dvorak: Which makes me
want to play my trump in Georgia

1243
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:52,350
gag.

1244
01:12:52,469 --> 01:12:53,909
Adam Curry: Okay, the gaff?

1245
01:12:55,830 --> 01:12:58,620
John C Dvorak: Actually, the
gaff is good. Okay, I got three

1246
01:12:58,620 --> 01:13:02,250
Trump clips. Okay, but play the
Trump and Georgia gaff and you

1247
01:13:02,250 --> 01:13:03,000
tell me the gaff,

1248
01:13:03,090 --> 01:13:07,050
Unknown: this vicious
persecution is a travesty of

1249
01:13:07,050 --> 01:13:11,970
justice. You're watching Joe
bridon job I think of it. Biden

1250
01:13:11,970 --> 01:13:17,220
is trying to jail. His leading
political opponent and opponent

1251
01:13:17,220 --> 01:13:18,660
that's beating him by a lot.

1252
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:20,250
Adam Curry: Bryden Joe Bryden

1253
01:13:20,250 --> 01:13:23,340
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah, Joe
Bryden. Just glosses it over. He

1254
01:13:23,340 --> 01:13:24,810
doesn't even pull back from

1255
01:13:24,810 --> 01:13:27,150
Adam Curry: it. Because he's a
trans Jester. He has no problem

1256
01:13:27,150 --> 01:13:27,660
doing that.

1257
01:13:28,620 --> 01:13:30,630
John C Dvorak: Okay, now here's
the I thought this was kind of

1258
01:13:30,630 --> 01:13:33,330
cute. This is Trump and George
talking about the Magga hat.

1259
01:13:33,780 --> 01:13:38,220
Unknown: Remember, I used to
campaign and I'd say that we're

1260
01:13:38,220 --> 01:13:42,000
going to end up being Venezuela
on steroids. That's exactly

1261
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:46,140
what's happening to our country.
Our country's going to hell. I

1262
01:13:46,140 --> 01:13:50,850
was going to change the name of
our campaign to keep America

1263
01:13:50,850 --> 01:13:55,530
great. Now this is not as good
as Maga. Magazine. Magga right

1264
01:13:55,530 --> 01:14:04,620
Magga. And keep America greatest
CAG I don't think CAG CAG is

1265
01:14:04,620 --> 01:14:08,280
ever gonna compete with Maga.
But we couldn't say Keep America

1266
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:11,250
Great because our country is not
great. Well left out all over

1267
01:14:11,250 --> 01:14:14,400
the world. We're no longer
respected. Three years ago, we

1268
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:18,360
were respected like our country
has never been respected before.

1269
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:25,080
John C Dvorak: Okay, so there's
that now. So I wanted to see

1270
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:29,550
what the opinion makers are the
punditry, yeah, super pundits.

1271
01:14:29,910 --> 01:14:33,390
So I'm gonna go to PBS and they
had this

1272
01:14:33,450 --> 01:14:36,180
Adam Curry: PBS they're like an
official outfit, man. You gotta

1273
01:14:36,180 --> 01:14:38,460
get the cable news companies
they're the ones that are not

1274
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,520
John C Dvorak: talking about
unbalanced opinions. This is

1275
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:45,990
what bothers me he ever says
when died yeah, the balance that

1276
01:14:45,990 --> 01:14:50,220
PBS is deal it's just hate the
Republicans. Yeah, we have so

1277
01:14:50,220 --> 01:14:54,690
now we have Ruth McManus with
with Brooks, who's Ruthie manis,

1278
01:14:54,690 --> 01:14:59,040
who is who she is a one of the
editors that the WaPo so we have

1279
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:02,070
the you know, same old Will
shame will Washington Post Trump

1280
01:15:02,070 --> 01:15:05,820
haters and their social sphere
about this stuff? So this is the

1281
01:15:05,820 --> 01:15:09,810
unbalanced opinion. This is Ruth
on the indictment

1282
01:15:09,930 --> 01:15:13,020
Unknown: is really the right
word to use. It's a somber

1283
01:15:13,020 --> 01:15:18,150
sobering moment for the country.
We have never been to this place

1284
01:15:18,150 --> 01:15:21,810
before. We've been on the brink.
We all know Nixon was almost

1285
01:15:21,810 --> 01:15:25,620
indicted, people forget Bill
Clinton faced the prospect of

1286
01:15:25,620 --> 01:15:29,700
indictment and reached a plea
deal. But we have never crossed

1287
01:15:29,700 --> 01:15:33,690
this Rubicon. I think it's
important that we did it. On

1288
01:15:33,690 --> 01:15:36,840
this set of facts. I thought
that was true. Before I saw the

1289
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,240
indictment, having seen the
indictment, I think it's even

1290
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:43,200
more true. As Jack Smith said,
there can't be one set of the

1291
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:48,360
one set of laws has to cover
everybody that said, My so so

1292
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:52,140
I'm, I'm relieved that the rule
of law looks like it's

1293
01:15:52,140 --> 01:15:55,770
prevailing here. But that relief
is really tempered by sadness,

1294
01:15:55,770 --> 01:15:58,440
sadness, that upset we had a
president of the United States

1295
01:15:58,440 --> 01:16:01,110
and a potential future President
of the United States that has

1296
01:16:01,110 --> 01:16:04,320
brought us to this terrible
state, and also real

1297
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:12,180
apprehension, sadness about the
volcanic response, just inherent

1298
01:16:12,180 --> 01:16:16,950
instinctive, supportiveness
political polarization from his

1299
01:16:16,950 --> 01:16:20,280
party, and what that's going to
mean for an already divided

1300
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:22,470
country that's going to be
further polarized here.

1301
01:16:22,589 --> 01:16:25,709
Adam Curry: Okay, so that is
She's clearly a leftist, so that

1302
01:16:25,709 --> 01:16:30,659
we would expect Brooks to give
us a more rightist opinion, I

1303
01:16:30,660 --> 01:16:33,150
John C Dvorak: would like to
hear from someone who finds the

1304
01:16:33,150 --> 01:16:37,020
whole thing to be completely the
opposite. It's a bad idea and

1305
01:16:37,020 --> 01:16:39,870
all the rest of it, but no, no,
no, it's going to be just pretty

1306
01:16:39,870 --> 01:16:43,800
much the same thing. Brooks just
has a slightly different take on

1307
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:45,960
it. But here's Brooks unbalanced
opinion,

1308
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:48,780
Unknown: a somber day, a sad
day, how do you view it?

1309
01:16:49,259 --> 01:16:53,579
This morning, I was blase. I was
okay. He had, he had these

1310
01:16:53,579 --> 01:16:56,819
documents, we knew it. We saw
the pictures from our logo. And

1311
01:16:56,819 --> 01:16:59,729
then when the indictment came
out, I was like, oh, there's

1312
01:16:59,729 --> 01:17:03,209
always another layer down with
the sky. Then when I What

1313
01:17:03,209 --> 01:17:06,719
shocked me in particular was the
the nuclear programs, our own

1314
01:17:06,719 --> 01:17:10,829
vulnerabilities. He's sharing
our Iran plans with buddies at a

1315
01:17:10,829 --> 01:17:16,019
golf course. And I don't see
those as documents. Those are

1316
01:17:16,019 --> 01:17:18,629
human beings, those are American
lives. Those are people who are

1317
01:17:18,629 --> 01:17:21,119
helping United States around the
world that were put at risk.

1318
01:17:21,449 --> 01:17:25,109
Those are American soldiers, and
Marines and airmen. And seamen

1319
01:17:25,109 --> 01:17:28,769
who were put at risk See, man,
so the lack of reverence, lack

1320
01:17:28,769 --> 01:17:32,279
of sense of responsibility for
the people who were serving

1321
01:17:32,279 --> 01:17:38,069
under his command is just so
offensive. And then just the, he

1322
01:17:38,129 --> 01:17:42,449
had this thought I, he's just a
mean, boy. He's like an eight

1323
01:17:42,449 --> 01:17:45,599
year old boy who wanted these
documents for some willful

1324
01:17:45,599 --> 01:17:48,989
reason who could not admit
error. And my friend Andrew

1325
01:17:48,989 --> 01:17:50,999
Sullivan made the point today
that whenever there's a

1326
01:17:50,999 --> 01:17:54,089
situation where Donald Trump has
to be d equals everybody, the

1327
01:17:54,089 --> 01:17:57,119
rules have to apply equally, he
will ride roughshod over that

1328
01:17:57,119 --> 01:18:00,839
system, and behave in a way so
I'm not equal to everybody else.

1329
01:18:00,869 --> 01:18:05,129
It's just me. The rules don't
apply to me. And it's it's

1330
01:18:05,159 --> 01:18:08,459
Greek, and it's the exposure of
his character flaw.

1331
01:18:08,940 --> 01:18:13,860
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. This is
the no one is above that. In the

1332
01:18:13,860 --> 01:18:17,040
previous, the previous clip from
Ruth, she talked about

1333
01:18:17,100 --> 01:18:22,260
presidents copping a plea deal.
This is interesting, because

1334
01:18:22,260 --> 01:18:26,310
this is exactly what Rachel
Maddow on her. She now on one

1335
01:18:26,340 --> 01:18:32,190
one day a week on MSNBC. Monday,
she and Lawrence discussed this,

1336
01:18:32,250 --> 01:18:34,200
Unknown: you have to wonder if
the Justice Department is

1337
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:39,870
considering whether there is
some political solution to this

1338
01:18:39,870 --> 01:18:43,620
criminal problem whether part of
the issue here is not just that

1339
01:18:43,620 --> 01:18:46,350
Trump has committed crimes, but
that Trump has committed crimes

1340
01:18:46,350 --> 01:18:50,370
and plans on being back in the
White House. Do they consider as

1341
01:18:50,370 --> 01:18:53,880
part of a potential plea offer
something that would prescribe

1342
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:57,330
him prescribe him from from from
running for office? Again,

1343
01:18:57,389 --> 01:19:00,869
I don't know. I would imagine if
anything like that happened,

1344
01:19:00,899 --> 01:19:04,649
that it would have to come from
the defense side of the

1345
01:19:04,649 --> 01:19:08,759
negotiation, that the that the
Trump team would would say, Oh,

1346
01:19:08,759 --> 01:19:12,779
by the way, and with this, we
will also, you know, drop out of

1347
01:19:12,779 --> 01:19:17,009
the race for president otherwise
would put the Justice Department

1348
01:19:17,009 --> 01:19:20,759
in this position that Donald
Trump claims they're in. He

1349
01:19:20,759 --> 01:19:23,939
claims they're trying to stop
him simply tried to stop him

1350
01:19:24,179 --> 01:19:27,179
from becoming president again.
And that's the only reason

1351
01:19:27,599 --> 01:19:32,519
they're doing this. So my guess
given those dynamics and the

1352
01:19:32,519 --> 01:19:37,139
change, I think in the way, the
Justice Department sees this in

1353
01:19:37,139 --> 01:19:43,079
those 50 years since before I
do, it's just seems unlikely

1354
01:19:43,079 --> 01:19:48,089
that they would reach into the
political zone of the solution.

1355
01:19:48,329 --> 01:19:51,959
Our politics does have to find a
solution to this, but it might

1356
01:19:51,959 --> 01:19:54,869
have to find that solution,
separate and apart from the

1357
01:19:54,869 --> 01:19:55,949
criminal process.

1358
01:19:56,190 --> 01:19:58,890
Adam Curry: Now there would pro
scribe him which means command

1359
01:19:59,310 --> 01:20:02,880
proscribed him a plea deal. So
well, we'll let you off the hook

1360
01:20:03,150 --> 01:20:06,450
as long as you promise not to
run. So we know what this is

1361
01:20:06,450 --> 01:20:10,560
about. That's nice to let us
know, Rachel and Larry

1362
01:20:11,790 --> 01:20:15,030
John C Dvorak: Bell. We knew
that that was the case. What's

1363
01:20:15,030 --> 01:20:15,600
interesting

1364
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:20,310
Adam Curry: is that nowhere and
that's not true. In most, most

1365
01:20:20,310 --> 01:20:26,940
of these opinion programs, does
anyone really discuss the actual

1366
01:20:26,940 --> 01:20:30,960
indictments because it's
inherently weak and it's dumb,

1367
01:20:30,990 --> 01:20:39,210
and the timing of it is, is
obvious. This is Kudlow Kudlow.

1368
01:20:39,510 --> 01:20:43,080
I think interviews on Fox,
digital or Fox Business or noise

1369
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:44,730
on Fox Business Fox Business

1370
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:47,460
Unknown: coincidence, in my
view, that Donald Trump

1371
01:20:47,460 --> 01:20:52,560
indictment was announced on the
same day, the FBI 1023 forum was

1372
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:56,040
finally opened up to the House
members of the Oversight

1373
01:20:56,190 --> 01:21:01,230
Committee no coincidence, while
President Joe Biden smugly

1374
01:21:01,230 --> 01:21:05,220
answered a reporter's question
about bribery charges by saying

1375
01:21:05,220 --> 01:21:09,360
show me the money. Well, that
clock is ticking for Mr. Biden

1376
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:12,780
sources briefing Fox News
digital says we're very clear

1377
01:21:12,930 --> 01:21:17,760
about the allegation. Biden was
paid $5 million by a top dog at

1378
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:21,930
Burisma holdings, and another 5
million bucks went to Hunter

1379
01:21:21,930 --> 01:21:25,800
Biden. The FBI interview came
from a highly credible source

1380
01:21:25,890 --> 01:21:29,190
who detailed multiple meetings
and conversations with the

1381
01:21:29,190 --> 01:21:33,210
Burisma people that pay to play
bribe was to force Ukrainian

1382
01:21:33,210 --> 01:21:37,770
prosecutor Viktor Shokin. Out of
Office, which is exactly what

1383
01:21:37,770 --> 01:21:41,670
Joe Biden did. This is
potentially the biggest

1384
01:21:41,670 --> 01:21:45,150
political scandal in American
history. And the evidence

1385
01:21:45,150 --> 01:21:49,260
against the Biden crime family
is mounting up across the board.

1386
01:21:49,290 --> 01:21:53,730
So Biden's Attorney General
Merrick Garland rushed out his

1387
01:21:53,730 --> 01:21:57,330
special counsel's indictment of
former President Trump on this

1388
01:21:57,330 --> 01:22:01,230
same day. It's a transparent
attempt to distract attention

1389
01:22:01,260 --> 01:22:02,940
from Biden corruption.

1390
01:22:03,330 --> 01:22:06,870
John C Dvorak: So this
transparent to who nobody played

1391
01:22:06,870 --> 01:22:08,310
this up except Kudlow.

1392
01:22:08,370 --> 01:22:12,450
Adam Curry: Well, this is the
problem is now you have everyone

1393
01:22:12,480 --> 01:22:16,530
instead of again, instead of
going after these, these these

1394
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:20,760
pardons upon trumped up
indictments and charges, which

1395
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:26,340
are easily refuted, I think. And
thank you for picking up on

1396
01:22:26,340 --> 01:22:30,660
that. That lawyer, the judge? I
mean, what a great what a great

1397
01:22:30,660 --> 01:22:35,580
Gambit is, of course, Trump
judge. Everyone is trying

1398
01:22:35,610 --> 01:22:38,730
everyone is defending Trump is
gonna try and go but my Biden

1399
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:42,360
Biden, my Biden, my Biden, which
no one on the left and the M

1400
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:47,010
five M cares about, and no one
no one knows it. And this is

1401
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:50,160
you're going to hear this
Stephanopoulos, ABC, and I

1402
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:53,430
believe he really is being
truthful here. As we discussed

1403
01:22:53,460 --> 01:22:59,400
earlier. This is his belief.
This is a Trump attorney who has

1404
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:03,270
a great name for an attorney,
Jim trustee. I mean, come on.

1405
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:05,580
Does it get any better than
that? Hi, everybody. I'm Jim,

1406
01:23:05,580 --> 01:23:07,800
trustee, Attorney at Law. We're
joined

1407
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:09,870
Unknown: now by one of Donald
Trump's attorneys. Jim, Trustee

1408
01:23:09,870 --> 01:23:13,290
Jim, thank you for joining us
this morning. What exactly did

1409
01:23:13,290 --> 01:23:15,210
you learn from the Special
Counsel?

1410
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:18,960
Well, we learned that this
special counsel was hell bent on

1411
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:21,450
criminalizing something that I
really don't think has a

1412
01:23:21,450 --> 01:23:25,200
criminal basis under the
Presidential Records Act. So we

1413
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:28,950
now have a summons to appear.
Tuesday afternoon at three

1414
01:23:28,950 --> 01:23:31,980
o'clock it has at least a
summary of the types of charges

1415
01:23:31,980 --> 01:23:36,960
we expect to see in the
indictment. And it puts a stamp

1416
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:40,980
of reality on something that
really is unreal in terms of the

1417
01:23:40,980 --> 01:23:42,720
weaponization of the Department
of Justice,

1418
01:23:42,750 --> 01:23:45,120
I know you're gonna use that
phrase weaponization Department

1419
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:47,400
of Justice, but it's not just
the Presidential Records Act.

1420
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:51,210
It's reportedly the Espionage
Act much more seriously,

1421
01:23:51,210 --> 01:23:54,450
perhaps, obstruction of justice,
false statements, those are

1422
01:23:54,450 --> 01:23:55,410
common crimes,

1423
01:23:55,980 --> 01:23:59,640
all of which is predicated on
the idea that you can send a

1424
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:04,830
message from the White House to
the archivist to DOJ to use a

1425
01:24:04,830 --> 01:24:08,940
dispute a regular dispute about
documents in a former

1426
01:24:08,940 --> 01:24:12,120
president's home and turn that
into a criminal investigation

1427
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:15,480
and a criminal raid. So it all
stems from the same initial

1428
01:24:15,570 --> 01:24:19,500
corrupt and politicized source
of weaponizing. Something that

1429
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:22,080
by statute is not a criminal
offense.

1430
01:24:22,110 --> 01:24:24,570
I think there there are
countless examples of people who

1431
01:24:24,570 --> 01:24:27,720
have been charged for similar
crimes, but we're going to both

1432
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:30,420
sides should wait and see what
is actually in the indictment.

1433
01:24:30,690 --> 01:24:32,520
Adam Curry: So actually should
have said the two things are

1434
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:36,900
weaponizing, the DOJ and now we
get into the Biden crime family.

1435
01:24:36,930 --> 01:24:38,640
Unknown: But doesn't the
President Don't you believe in

1436
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,250
the principle that no person is
above the law above the law and

1437
01:24:41,250 --> 01:24:43,530
committed the same crime that
someone else did? Shouldn't he

1438
01:24:43,530 --> 01:24:44,250
be charged?

1439
01:24:45,210 --> 01:24:48,750
No person is below the law.
That's really the issue here. I

1440
01:24:48,750 --> 01:24:51,720
mean, you've got these
investigations in Delaware over

1441
01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:55,140
1000 times more serious by a
sitting president who is

1442
01:24:55,140 --> 01:25:00,690
authorized his DOJ to try to
sink the candidacy. of his prime

1443
01:25:00,690 --> 01:25:04,500
opposition, while that guy has
unsecured documents that he

1444
01:25:04,500 --> 01:25:08,700
stole out of a skiff dozens of
years ago. So, look, you know,

1445
01:25:08,730 --> 01:25:11,370
we're not talking about
favorites are

1446
01:25:11,370 --> 01:25:14,550
you talking about? That is a
ridiculous statement.

1447
01:25:14,580 --> 01:25:19,560
There's this issue. Nice try.
There's an issue that anyone

1448
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:23,820
that reads any newspapers would
agree is a parallel track, which

1449
01:25:23,820 --> 01:25:26,820
is the Delaware documents
scandal of Joe Biden, where

1450
01:25:26,820 --> 01:25:30,300
there's a special counsel rob
her that's investigating it, you

1451
01:25:30,300 --> 01:25:33,240
know, that there were documents
that were sensitive that were

1452
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:37,290
marked classified, found in a
garage near a Corvette that made

1453
01:25:37,290 --> 01:25:39,960
their way through Chinatown
through the Penn Biden center,

1454
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:43,830
there's 18 150 boxes that have
never been fully looked at. At

1455
01:25:43,830 --> 01:25:47,400
the University of Delaware, you
have the ultimate unclean hands

1456
01:25:47,580 --> 01:25:51,900
of a current sitting president,
who had no declassification had

1457
01:25:51,900 --> 01:25:54,900
none of the protections of
President Trump, and who

1458
01:25:54,900 --> 01:25:57,630
literally had to have stolen
stuff from a skiff. Even Dick

1459
01:25:57,630 --> 01:26:00,510
Durbin has commented about how
this was an outrageous

1460
01:26:00,630 --> 01:26:04,020
possession of classified
material by Vice President at

1461
01:26:04,020 --> 01:26:07,290
that point, Joe Biden. So that's
what we're talking about. You

1462
01:26:07,290 --> 01:26:09,810
can scoff and act like there's
nothing to it. But the whole

1463
01:26:09,810 --> 01:26:13,500
country knows the basic notion
of unequal treatment and

1464
01:26:13,500 --> 01:26:16,650
fairness. And that's what's at
issue with this prosecution.

1465
01:26:16,710 --> 01:26:19,080
I think that is certainly what
is at issue, we will see how it

1466
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:21,180
plays out, because I don't think
you have the evidence to back up

1467
01:26:21,180 --> 01:26:23,760
any of the charges you just
made. Mr. Trustee. Thank you

1468
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:24,330
very much.

1469
01:26:25,740 --> 01:26:27,930
Adam Curry: Got all chili there,
George. Yeah,

1470
01:26:27,990 --> 01:26:34,140
John C Dvorak: the the left
narrative includes the following

1471
01:26:34,830 --> 01:26:39,090
all of Biden stock Biden isn't
bound by the presidential

1472
01:26:39,090 --> 01:26:48,000
records, act laws, a act is not
bound by any of that A and B.

1473
01:26:48,660 --> 01:26:53,190
There is actually a section of
the law that says that if you're

1474
01:26:53,190 --> 01:26:55,230
a senator, you can take home
whatever you want, doesn't make

1475
01:26:55,230 --> 01:27:00,300
any difference if you have
access to it, and and to make

1476
01:27:00,300 --> 01:27:04,920
sure it's not classified. The
third part of the of this

1477
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:08,730
narrative is that and I've heard
one guy go over very thoroughly.

1478
01:27:09,180 --> 01:27:13,650
The FBI went over all of Joe
Biden's stuff and the FBI found

1479
01:27:13,650 --> 01:27:19,830
nothing that was classified. And
so so the whole, so the side

1480
01:27:19,830 --> 01:27:25,320
that Stephanopoulos is taking is
based on the entire narrative

1481
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:28,080
that they have out there. Now
the thing that's still kind of

1482
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:32,070
interesting, and you kind of had
some bewilderment by a comment

1483
01:27:32,070 --> 01:27:38,910
that Brooks made about the about
the Iranian war plans is covered

1484
01:27:38,910 --> 01:27:43,950
by I found this podcast that had
Yeah, there we go. That's where

1485
01:27:43,950 --> 01:27:50,610
the good stuff. Yeah. The the
would you call him the guy is

1486
01:27:50,610 --> 01:27:53,850
Scott Ritter, who was the arms
inspector

1487
01:27:54,750 --> 01:27:57,630
Adam Curry: who didn't find any
any weapons in Iraq, that one?

1488
01:27:58,140 --> 01:28:01,950
John C Dvorak: And he said it
and he said so. And he's also

1489
01:28:01,950 --> 01:28:06,450
buddy, I've always found him to
be an excellent analyst. And

1490
01:28:06,870 --> 01:28:10,560
that's why he's on podcasts.
That's why he was because he was

1491
01:28:10,650 --> 01:28:14,520
they I don't know that what the
circumstances were. But after he

1492
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:17,880
came on, during a number of
episodes where he'd come on, and

1493
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:20,430
he say negative things. He's
also turns out if you really do

1494
01:28:20,430 --> 01:28:25,110
enough, look good. Look at him.
He's a huge Putin fan. Huge.

1495
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:31,290
He's a massive Putin actual,
like, samples, sliced bread

1496
01:28:32,130 --> 01:28:37,830
leaders. Oh, and he got, they
found porn at child porn on his

1497
01:28:37,830 --> 01:28:41,730
thing. He did a year and a half
in jail. And now he can't get a

1498
01:28:41,730 --> 01:28:45,420
gig anywhere. So if you want to
hear his analysis, and I still

1499
01:28:45,420 --> 01:28:50,400
think he's one of the best
analysts I've ever heard, he is

1500
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:54,120
a former Marine intelligence,
Defense Department intelligence.

1501
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:57,720
He's an intelligence guy, and he
does a hell of a job. And of

1502
01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:00,690
course, he's been be smart. So
he's got it you're never going

1503
01:29:00,690 --> 01:29:03,660
to hear from but let's listen to
these clips. And there's one in

1504
01:29:03,660 --> 01:29:08,040
here that'll get you. This is
Scott Ritter on Iran, one on

1505
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:08,370
with

1506
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:11,580
Unknown: Saudi Arabia pulling
back from the United States,

1507
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:17,160
Iran, deepening its ties with
with Putin and Russia, with bad

1508
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:22,920
blood towards the United States
does this capability of

1509
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:25,920
domestically producing a
hypersonic ballistic missile?

1510
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:29,880
Does this pose a problem for the
United States or

1511
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:30,750
for the world,

1512
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:34,830
but it poses a problem for the
United States in Israel. Iran is

1513
01:29:34,830 --> 01:29:38,340
in the business of bettering
relations with Saudi Arabia.

1514
01:29:38,490 --> 01:29:40,770
They're not building this
missile, the threatened Saudi

1515
01:29:40,770 --> 01:29:42,960
Arabia, they're not building
this missile to threaten any of

1516
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:48,450
their Arab neighbors. But we
have to be real here. Israel has

1517
01:29:48,450 --> 01:29:50,970
been carrying out attacks
against Iran for decades now.

1518
01:29:50,970 --> 01:29:53,940
They've been assassinating
Iranian scientists they've been

1519
01:29:54,810 --> 01:29:58,140
using covert means to blow up
Iranian facilities, both those

1520
01:29:58,140 --> 01:30:01,680
related to nuclear and ballistic
missile development. Now if we

1521
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:03,960
were in the United States and a
nation was assassinated, our

1522
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:06,570
scientists blowing up our
facilities, we bombed the heck

1523
01:30:06,570 --> 01:30:12,240
out. But the problem is with
Iran bombing Israel, many of

1524
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:15,270
their missiles might have been
shut down by the Israeli Iron

1525
01:30:15,270 --> 01:30:19,560
Dome system. And then you open
yourself up for retaliation from

1526
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:24,030
Israel. With this hypersonic
missile rush, Iran has built a

1527
01:30:24,030 --> 01:30:26,580
system that can't be shut down
by the Israelis, which means

1528
01:30:26,580 --> 01:30:30,870
that if Israel continues to push
red lines, Iran will be able to

1529
01:30:30,870 --> 01:30:34,860
decisively strike Israel in a
non nuclear fashion. So in many

1530
01:30:34,860 --> 01:30:38,820
ways, this makes the region even
safer because it creates real

1531
01:30:38,820 --> 01:30:42,750
deterrence on the part of Iran.
Iran can tell Israel that if you

1532
01:30:42,750 --> 01:30:46,230
attack us, we will destroy
significant parts of your

1533
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:49,620
society, your military, your
government, in ways that you

1534
01:30:49,620 --> 01:30:53,070
can't respond to you can't
prevent this from happening. And

1535
01:30:53,100 --> 01:30:55,260
with the United States, it's the
same thing.

1536
01:30:56,130 --> 01:30:59,370
Adam Curry: Okay, balance,
actually not even a bad thing,

1537
01:30:59,460 --> 01:31:01,320
John C Dvorak: I guess. No, it's
not who he thinks is a good

1538
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:03,630
thing. But here's the kicker,
and it answers one of your

1539
01:31:03,630 --> 01:31:08,820
questions, or your bewilderment.
It was mine, too. And this, this

1540
01:31:08,820 --> 01:31:10,230
will clear it up this part to

1541
01:31:10,620 --> 01:31:14,010
Unknown: Iran is saying that if
you attack us and remember, one

1542
01:31:14,010 --> 01:31:17,700
of the things that Donald Trump
is being accused of right now is

1543
01:31:17,700 --> 01:31:21,780
retaining a secret war plan
driven a drawn up by General

1544
01:31:21,780 --> 01:31:25,980
Miley to attack Iran. So it's
not that he runs making stuff

1545
01:31:25,980 --> 01:31:29,490
up, Iran sitting there going,
you have a war plan to attack

1546
01:31:29,490 --> 01:31:33,630
us, you actually had, we're
planning on doing this. And if

1547
01:31:33,630 --> 01:31:36,030
you know anything about the
military, once that war plan

1548
01:31:36,030 --> 01:31:39,240
exists, then it exists today,
which means the Biden

1549
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:43,590
administration has a war plan to
attack Iran, which means Iran

1550
01:31:43,590 --> 01:31:48,060
must develop the means necessary
to deter that. And they do that

1551
01:31:48,060 --> 01:31:50,940
by developing this weapon system
that the United States cannot

1552
01:31:50,940 --> 01:31:54,510
defend against. So that if we
attack Iran, every American

1553
01:31:54,510 --> 01:31:58,110
installation within 1400
kilometers of Iran is

1554
01:31:58,110 --> 01:32:01,260
susceptible to being destroyed
by this missile that we can't

1555
01:32:01,260 --> 01:32:04,950
defend against. So in many ways,
the system actually makes the

1556
01:32:04,950 --> 01:32:08,070
region safer. But it'll be very
frustrating for the United

1557
01:32:08,070 --> 01:32:13,110
States and Israel, because we
are not used to conceding

1558
01:32:13,110 --> 01:32:17,460
anything to anybody. We like
situations to be resolved on our

1559
01:32:17,460 --> 01:32:21,300
terms, dictated from the
standpoint of what improves

1560
01:32:21,300 --> 01:32:26,100
American security posture, and
allowing Iran to not take

1561
01:32:26,100 --> 01:32:31,770
control but to dominate the
region is not in our in the

1562
01:32:31,770 --> 01:32:35,730
current best interests of
American security posture, we

1563
01:32:35,730 --> 01:32:38,820
need to be in control of that
region. I would say in the long

1564
01:32:38,820 --> 01:32:41,430
term, though, this is a good
thing, because the United States

1565
01:32:41,430 --> 01:32:43,980
really doesn't need to have the
Fifth Fleet operating out of

1566
01:32:43,980 --> 01:32:47,580
Bahrain. We don't need to have
tactical combat aircraft

1567
01:32:47,580 --> 01:32:52,440
operating out of guitar and
Oman, that it would be better

1568
01:32:52,440 --> 01:32:56,160
for the world for us to withdraw
our military from that area and

1569
01:32:56,160 --> 01:32:59,580
start working with Saudi Arabia
and Iran and other nations

1570
01:32:59,670 --> 01:33:03,420
constructively with joint
economic interests in mind.

1571
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:06,780
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. This is
that's very good clip. If true.

1572
01:33:07,260 --> 01:33:10,620
And this is what Trump has.
Well, that's a huge problem for

1573
01:33:10,620 --> 01:33:14,310
the military industrial complex.
A de escalation. Oh, we can't

1574
01:33:14,310 --> 01:33:17,790
have that. Wow, good one.

1575
01:33:18,450 --> 01:33:20,250
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's what
I when I heard that I said, I

1576
01:33:20,250 --> 01:33:24,600
didn't know it. I mean, there's
hints at it. Even Brooks had a

1577
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:27,540
hint at it. But there's no we
don't have the details. We

1578
01:33:27,540 --> 01:33:32,760
didn't know that Trump had plans
for the war against Iran. But we

1579
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:36,000
moved if you recall, just a few
years ago, it Wait

1580
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:38,010
Adam Curry: a minute. It's in
the West Clarke seven.

1581
01:33:39,570 --> 01:33:42,240
John C Dvorak: Yes, it is in the
West Clarke seven. And we have

1582
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:46,470
do and we discussed that. The
there was a discussion and we

1583
01:33:46,470 --> 01:33:50,520
talked about on the show about
attacking Iran. And Trump didn't

1584
01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:53,070
want to do it. And they were
talking about it. Do you

1585
01:33:53,070 --> 01:33:55,110
Adam Curry: mind if I just play
this 31 second to the west

1586
01:33:55,110 --> 01:33:58,590
Clarke seven to remind anybody?
Well, yeah, this is a couple of

1587
01:33:58,590 --> 01:34:05,550
weeks after 911. And this is a
general general right, General

1588
01:34:05,550 --> 01:34:07,740
Wesley Clark, and this is what
he was told.

1589
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:12,750
Unknown: So I came back to see
him a few weeks later. And by

1590
01:34:12,750 --> 01:34:14,970
that time, we were bombing in
Afghanistan. I said, Are we

1591
01:34:14,970 --> 01:34:17,370
still going to war with Iraq?
And he said, Oh, it's worse than

1592
01:34:17,370 --> 01:34:20,400
that. He said, He reached over
on his desk. He picked up a

1593
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:23,430
piece of paper. He said, I just
he said, I just got this down

1594
01:34:23,430 --> 01:34:25,950
from upstairs meeting the
secretary Defense Office today.

1595
01:34:25,950 --> 01:34:28,410
And he said this a memo that
describes how we're going to

1596
01:34:28,410 --> 01:34:33,810
take out seven countries in five
years, starting with Iraq and

1597
01:34:33,810 --> 01:34:37,710
then Syria, Lebanon, Libya,
Somalia, Sudan and finishing off

1598
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:38,520
Iran.

1599
01:34:38,550 --> 01:34:42,570
Adam Curry: I think we only have
one left. I think we're I think

1600
01:34:42,570 --> 01:34:43,710
we're six or seven

1601
01:34:44,100 --> 01:34:46,140
John C Dvorak: Kinsta hypersonic
missiles.

1602
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:50,940
Adam Curry: This is good stuff.
Now this should calm everybody.

1603
01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:55,080
Now you know what it's about,
and it could actually be a good

1604
01:34:55,080 --> 01:35:00,570
thing. Because they're talking
and your boys there Brooks,

1605
01:35:00,870 --> 01:35:05,250
they'll know about it. So they
know, they know they're all in

1606
01:35:05,250 --> 01:35:08,580
to all part of the military
industrial complex and whatever

1607
01:35:08,790 --> 01:35:12,690
other crazies we have running
around, want to be to run the

1608
01:35:12,690 --> 01:35:13,320
world?

1609
01:35:13,860 --> 01:35:17,010
John C Dvorak: Yeah, did he does
a little wrap up here that's

1610
01:35:17,010 --> 01:35:18,840
worth finishing with.

1611
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:22,410
Unknown: There's no longer a
schism between Saudi Arabia and

1612
01:35:22,410 --> 01:35:25,320
Iran, for the US to exploit from
a military standpoint, they're

1613
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:29,490
making peace. So it's, maybe
it's time for the United States

1614
01:35:29,490 --> 01:35:31,890
to talk about making peace as
well. And it would be in our

1615
01:35:31,890 --> 01:35:35,820
best interest because we have
alienated Saudi Arabia, to the

1616
01:35:35,820 --> 01:35:39,810
extent that they are cutting oil
production right now, in a way

1617
01:35:39,810 --> 01:35:41,730
that's going to have a
detrimental impact on the

1618
01:35:41,730 --> 01:35:44,670
economy of the United States. It
used to be, we could pick up the

1619
01:35:44,670 --> 01:35:47,850
phone, and the Saudis would
adjust oil production to meet

1620
01:35:47,850 --> 01:35:50,940
the economic best interests of
the United States. It's now at

1621
01:35:50,940 --> 01:35:53,880
the point where Saudi Arabia
doesn't care what the United

1622
01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:56,460
States thinks that the more
they're going to cut production

1623
01:35:56,460 --> 01:35:59,850
to raise prices, which not only
benefits them, but it benefits

1624
01:35:59,850 --> 01:36:02,550
Russia. River, our goal with
economic sanctions is to

1625
01:36:02,550 --> 01:36:06,750
strangle Russia, to try and cut
off access to Russian energy.

1626
01:36:06,990 --> 01:36:10,290
And we've been successful in
closing down some markets. But

1627
01:36:10,290 --> 01:36:13,830
that success is reversed the
moment prices go up because now

1628
01:36:13,830 --> 01:36:17,460
Russia can sell less gas at a
higher price. They make the same

1629
01:36:17,460 --> 01:36:18,870
amount of money they made
before.

1630
01:36:19,410 --> 01:36:22,260
Adam Curry: Thank you for these
clips. You know what this, this

1631
01:36:22,260 --> 01:36:26,910
actually makes me feel very
empowered. Now, instead of all

1632
01:36:26,910 --> 01:36:31,140
the political nonsense and all
the M five M jackin. Back and

1633
01:36:31,140 --> 01:36:37,260
forth. Now, I know it's very
simple. Trump doesn't want war.

1634
01:36:37,500 --> 01:36:41,910
He's got he has the plans that
they had to attack Iran to

1635
01:36:41,910 --> 01:36:44,610
complete the West Clarke seven
Okay, five years a little bit

1636
01:36:44,610 --> 01:36:48,630
longer, but you know, this stuff
happens. And and we're actually

1637
01:36:48,630 --> 01:36:52,050
going to have balance in the
world. And Trump probably can go

1638
01:36:52,140 --> 01:36:57,120
back and pick up the phone with
the Saudis. In return, return

1639
01:36:57,120 --> 01:37:00,060
prices to normal return things
to normal. It's just It's

1640
01:37:00,060 --> 01:37:06,900
empowering to note to have that
knowledge as much. Because this

1641
01:37:06,900 --> 01:37:09,150
is the stuff that CNN is doing.
CNN is

1642
01:37:09,150 --> 01:37:12,030
Unknown: now learning FBI
special agents across the

1643
01:37:12,030 --> 01:37:16,710
country are actively looking for
possible domestic terror threats

1644
01:37:16,860 --> 01:37:20,100
related to Trump's upcoming
court appearance in Florida.

1645
01:37:20,220 --> 01:37:23,880
Sources say some pro Trump
groups are already making plans

1646
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:27,690
to travel to Miami and support
the former President as he faces

1647
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:31,920
these federal charges in the
classified documents case, suit

1648
01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:34,380
as Josh Campbell is joining us
right now, Josh, I know you've

1649
01:37:34,380 --> 01:37:38,100
been talking to your sources in
the FBI and elsewhere. What more

1650
01:37:38,100 --> 01:37:38,850
are you hearing?

1651
01:37:39,810 --> 01:37:42,000
Well, this is so important
because we know that Donald

1652
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:45,030
Trump's election lies inspired
that deadly January 6

1653
01:37:45,030 --> 01:37:48,030
insurrection at the Capitol and
US federal law enforcement is

1654
01:37:48,030 --> 01:37:48,600
election

1655
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:53,760
John C Dvorak: Wait, wait. His
election lies in every report is

1656
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:56,520
this it's not a report
journalism is this

1657
01:37:56,550 --> 01:38:00,090
Adam Curry: report is
propaganda. We all know this

1658
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:02,430
Unknown: because we know that
Donald Trump's election lies and

1659
01:38:02,430 --> 01:38:05,940
spider that deadly January 6
insurrection at the Capitol and

1660
01:38:05,940 --> 01:38:09,030
US federal law enforcement is
working to make sure that that

1661
01:38:09,030 --> 01:38:11,700
doesn't happen again. I spoke to
five law enforcement sources

1662
01:38:11,700 --> 01:38:15,570
across the country today that
FBI domestic terrorism agents

1663
01:38:15,570 --> 01:38:18,480
and analysts are actively
working to identify any

1664
01:38:18,480 --> 01:38:21,120
potential threat surrounding
that cup coming court

1665
01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:24,030
appearance. They are looking at
online platforms that are

1666
01:38:24,030 --> 01:38:27,330
popular with extremist groups
like podcasts. This is important

1667
01:38:27,330 --> 01:38:30,690
they are also queering and
tasking confidential human

1668
01:38:30,690 --> 01:38:33,930
informants who report on these
domestic terrorism. People in

1669
01:38:33,930 --> 01:38:37,260
the troll room groups now as
secretive and closed off as

1670
01:38:37,260 --> 01:38:40,020
these groups think they are.
They are infiltrated by

1671
01:38:40,170 --> 01:38:43,710
informants of the FBI that has
often led to consternation among

1672
01:38:43,710 --> 01:38:47,100
these extremist groups as well
as infighting and paranoia. By

1673
01:38:47,100 --> 01:38:49,950
the way, I'm told the FBI
doesn't mind that one bit. At

1674
01:38:49,950 --> 01:38:52,350
this point. There's no
indication of any credible and

1675
01:38:52,350 --> 01:38:55,380
specific threat, but FBI agents
and intelligence analysts are

1676
01:38:55,380 --> 01:38:58,200
certainly looking for this
potential threats. What

1677
01:38:59,130 --> 01:39:03,510
John C Dvorak: what what he says
there's no evidence, any

1678
01:39:03,510 --> 01:39:06,960
credible anything, there's
nothing going on. I'm gonna give

1679
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:08,250
this report anyway.

1680
01:39:08,610 --> 01:39:11,580
Unknown: To consternation among
these extremist groups as well

1681
01:39:11,580 --> 01:39:14,610
as infighting and paranoia. By
the way, I'm told the FBI

1682
01:39:14,610 --> 01:39:17,190
doesn't mind that one bid. At
this point. There's no

1683
01:39:17,190 --> 01:39:20,910
indication of any credible and
specific threat but FBI agents

1684
01:39:20,910 --> 01:39:23,460
and intelligence analysts are
certainly looking for those

1685
01:39:23,460 --> 01:39:26,430
potential threats. One source
told me that they don't want to

1686
01:39:26,430 --> 01:39:29,550
see the same violence on January
6 happen like this coming

1687
01:39:29,550 --> 01:39:30,300
Tuesday, Wolf.

1688
01:39:30,540 --> 01:39:33,840
Adam Curry: I'm gonna so yes,
this is only to spin people up

1689
01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:36,630
get whole. All of this
informants as they've

1690
01:39:36,660 --> 01:39:40,710
infiltrated our Discord server.
They're in the IRC chat. There's

1691
01:39:40,710 --> 01:39:42,540
a troll room. They're
everywhere. They're sending us

1692
01:39:42,540 --> 01:39:46,020
bad clips. I'm gonna land this
plane with some humor. I'm gonna

1693
01:39:46,020 --> 01:39:48,690
land this plane with some humor.
But first we need to go to a C

1694
01:39:48,690 --> 01:39:53,940
span caller from the past couple
of days. Washington journal.

1695
01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:56,160
This is the independent line
which gig

1696
01:39:56,190 --> 01:39:58,950
John C Dvorak: couldn't be less
you don't know. Yeah, you don't

1697
01:39:58,950 --> 01:39:59,130
know.

1698
01:39:59,130 --> 01:40:02,100
Adam Curry: But I liked that
this is out there. And this is

1699
01:40:02,130 --> 01:40:03,990
that people remember this.

1700
01:40:04,020 --> 01:40:06,570
Unknown: I've got I've got a
request I've got to run. I've

1701
01:40:06,570 --> 01:40:11,220
got a lot of stuff to do today.
But I spoken to Larry Sabato, on

1702
01:40:11,220 --> 01:40:15,930
your show before. And this
matter is of utmost importance.

1703
01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:20,010
I asked him if he was familiar
with the Smith month re

1704
01:40:20,010 --> 01:40:23,550
Modernization Act. It's
something that got slipped into

1705
01:40:23,550 --> 01:40:29,010
the 2012, National Defense
Authorization Act. He said he

1706
01:40:29,010 --> 01:40:33,330
didn't know about it. And to
kind of dismiss the call, I

1707
01:40:33,330 --> 01:40:37,020
followed up with an email, like
I do a lot of times, because

1708
01:40:37,020 --> 01:40:40,680
this matters so important. And
of course, I've gotten nothing

1709
01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:44,220
back. So I'd like you to just
ask him about the Smith

1710
01:40:44,220 --> 01:40:48,000
machinery Modernization Act. And
I just want to tell you briefly,

1711
01:40:48,810 --> 01:40:55,200
what that did is it allowed our
State Department to use taxpayer

1712
01:40:55,200 --> 01:41:02,460
money to disseminate propaganda
within the boundaries of the

1713
01:41:02,460 --> 01:41:08,130
United States, folks that
started in 2012. Our government

1714
01:41:09,180 --> 01:41:14,700
is filling us with propaganda,
using our tax money to do it,

1715
01:41:15,060 --> 01:41:19,200
and the people reporting this
stuff. There's no repercussions

1716
01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:26,250
for it. They have protections in
the act itself. People, this is

1717
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:30,900
why there's such a division in
our country. The press is doing

1718
01:41:30,900 --> 01:41:36,270
this to us. And our government
has enabled it. Thank you. Let's

1719
01:41:36,270 --> 01:41:40,170
go to Lisa who's calling from
Maine, Republican line.

1720
01:41:42,870 --> 01:41:45,660
John C Dvorak: All right, so
segways are the best on that

1721
01:41:45,660 --> 01:41:45,930
show.

1722
01:41:46,740 --> 01:41:49,260
Adam Curry: Final couple of
clips here. Let's go to where

1723
01:41:49,260 --> 01:41:52,680
America gets all of their
political news. The view will be

1724
01:41:52,680 --> 01:41:56,460
Unknown: I think you remember I
said last year, what is taking

1725
01:41:56,460 --> 01:42:04,170
them so long? This is a paper
trail case I needed to do have

1726
01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:10,200
everything every thing that you
can get when you are a potential

1727
01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:13,230
criminal defendant is a target
letter, because we used to call

1728
01:42:13,230 --> 01:42:16,890
it bugbear turn, either your
phone is bugged, or you're gonna

1729
01:42:16,890 --> 01:42:20,490
turn and cooperate. Well, baby,
you are it. And that's the

1730
01:42:20,490 --> 01:42:22,710
target letter. And the target
letter basically says you are

1731
01:42:22,710 --> 01:42:25,530
the target of a Department of
Justice investigation and I will

1732
01:42:25,530 --> 01:42:29,130
tell you that federal
prosecutors have a 99.6%

1733
01:42:29,130 --> 01:42:29,940
conviction rate

1734
01:42:29,970 --> 01:42:32,970
Adam Curry: target Oh no, just
like climate change. Oh, target

1735
01:42:32,970 --> 01:42:39,900
letter target letter. But but
but but sunny Austin lawyer, she

1736
01:42:39,900 --> 01:42:41,610
thinks something is up here.

1737
01:42:41,700 --> 01:42:45,450
Unknown: I think that Donald
Trump has a pocket pardon in his

1738
01:42:45,450 --> 01:42:49,800
safe somewhere at Mar Mar a
Lago. And that means sometimes

1739
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:53,490
the president can, it's never
been done. But I met and he has

1740
01:42:53,490 --> 01:42:57,450
done it. You write a pardon for
yourself a federal pardon for

1741
01:42:57,450 --> 01:42:59,820
yourself, and you keep it in
your pocket. And that's why they

1742
01:42:59,820 --> 01:43:03,420
call it a pocket pardon? And
even it's never been tested.

1743
01:43:03,930 --> 01:43:07,050
Because that would go to that
would go to this Supreme Court,

1744
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:10,500
the Supreme Court that is
heavily conservative. And so

1745
01:43:10,710 --> 01:43:13,710
we're we're asking everyone,
would you pardon him? I think he

1746
01:43:13,710 --> 01:43:14,640
would pardon himself.

1747
01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:17,280
Adam Curry: Die the pocket.
Pardon? This is like the

1748
01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:21,240
trillion dollar coin. This is
fantastic. I love it. It's

1749
01:43:21,240 --> 01:43:23,640
John C Dvorak: so many great
show titles for today. I've

1750
01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:27,000
Adam Curry: had my book is
almost full, final clip just so

1751
01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:30,090
we can. Again, no one is really
talking about the contents.

1752
01:43:30,570 --> 01:43:34,440
Because Iran a supersonic
missile or again talking about

1753
01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:39,060
Ari Melba Toast over there at
MSNBC and he had some Jamocha

1754
01:43:39,060 --> 01:43:43,110
it's the whole the whole channel
is hilarious. But this guy, the

1755
01:43:43,110 --> 01:43:46,620
whitest guy in the universe,
just listen to what he does how

1756
01:43:46,620 --> 01:43:50,610
he is because he has no there's
no substance. It's all just

1757
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:51,390
black.

1758
01:43:51,750 --> 01:43:54,300
Unknown: When will federal
defendant Donald Trump go on

1759
01:43:54,300 --> 01:43:58,170
trial. Special Counsel Smith
unseal that indictment today and

1760
01:43:58,170 --> 01:44:00,600
vowed a speedy trial speedy
trial.

1761
01:44:01,650 --> 01:44:05,130
My office will seek a speedy
trial in this matter, speedy

1762
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system with a public interest
and the rights of the accused.

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Speed seems to be important to
him. The indictment came just

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seven months after Smith took
over this post when Attorney

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General garland appointed him.

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Today, I signed an order
appointing Jack Smith to serve

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as Special Counsel. The
extraordinary circumstances

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01:44:26,670 --> 01:44:31,590
presented here demanded Mr.
Smith is the right choice to

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01:44:31,590 --> 01:44:35,910
complete these matters in an
even handed and urgent manner.

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There you have it. It's a little
different now with everything we

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01:44:41,670 --> 01:44:45,390
know today. Garland tap the
process for experience including

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01:44:45,390 --> 01:44:48,450
prosecuting corruption cases
against politicians, including

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01:44:48,450 --> 01:44:52,260
Democrat John Edwards, and heads
of state Smith served as a tough

1774
01:44:52,260 --> 01:44:55,440
war crimes prosecutor at The
Hague where he faced sitting

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01:44:55,740 --> 01:44:59,310
presidents efforts to obstruct
and undermine him. Smith was

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01:44:59,310 --> 01:45:03,510
certainly not very Famous across
America but garland clearly

1777
01:45:03,510 --> 01:45:07,740
viewed him as someone who would
fearlessly follow the facts. One

1778
01:45:07,740 --> 01:45:11,640
colleague recounts the Jack
Smith doesn't like to sit there

1779
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:16,020
playing with his food, a phrase
that refers to getting the job

1780
01:45:16,020 --> 01:45:19,020
done. Or as Sean Carter
memorably put it

1781
01:45:19,050 --> 01:45:20,820
Adam Curry: up talking about,
you know, I was going to quote a

1782
01:45:20,820 --> 01:45:21,930
Jay Z lyric.

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01:45:22,440 --> 01:45:25,320
Unknown: I checked shatter like
a food inspector. My homie

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01:45:25,320 --> 01:45:27,960
always told me finish your
breakfast.

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01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:33,090
Adam Curry: Dude, this guy is
insane. He's quoting Jay Z

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01:45:33,090 --> 01:45:36,060
lyrics. This is how this is how
little substance he has to go

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01:45:36,090 --> 01:45:39,360
John C Dvorak: right? To this
guy can't even watch this guy

1788
01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:43,890
show. What is with this with
this Homer Simpson, six o'clock

1789
01:45:43,890 --> 01:45:48,660
shadow that he actually has on
his face. He's hard. Either grow

1790
01:45:48,660 --> 01:45:54,540
a beard, grow it out, or shave
for God's sake. The guy that

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01:45:55,950 --> 01:46:00,750
it's so dis adore, it's like,
it's like makeup. It's just the

1792
01:46:00,750 --> 01:46:04,320
way he looks like shit on TV.
Let's just put it that way.

1793
01:46:04,349 --> 01:46:08,909
Adam Curry: That's his. That's
his whole. His whole vibe, man.

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01:46:08,909 --> 01:46:11,729
He's, you know, he's like a hip
hopper.

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01:46:12,720 --> 01:46:15,000
John C Dvorak: I guess. So. Hip
hop, hip hop.

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01:46:17,310 --> 01:46:21,720
Adam Curry: Dope, very dope. He
so hip, and he doesn't doesn't

1797
01:46:21,720 --> 01:46:26,730
say Jay Z. So Shawn Carter, but
shows you you know, I didn't

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01:46:26,970 --> 01:46:30,180
Shawn Carter, instead of Jay Z.
i Yeah. Because I'm all in

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01:46:31,380 --> 01:46:35,940
studying rap lyrics. Hip Hop.
Not just so we're not accused of

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01:46:35,940 --> 01:46:40,530
the same thing. Do you want to
just hear a quick explanation of

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01:46:40,530 --> 01:46:44,670
why this is a bogus why these
are bogus indictments. We might

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01:46:44,670 --> 01:46:45,750
as well do well. I

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01:46:45,750 --> 01:46:48,060
John C Dvorak: have one other
kind of an ancillary clip we

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01:46:48,060 --> 01:46:54,480
should get out of the way. Okay.
This is a CNN, take a disk. This

1805
01:46:54,480 --> 01:46:58,620
is kind of a it's kind of
humorous. This. This is one of

1806
01:46:58,620 --> 01:47:01,620
the this is almost an ask Adam
but you have to catch the gaff

1807
01:47:01,620 --> 01:47:05,100
and other catch the gaff clip.
Okay, from Trump. This is CNN,

1808
01:47:05,130 --> 01:47:07,950
CNN reporting on the Trump
speech in Georgia.

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01:47:08,009 --> 01:47:10,349
Unknown: Stan, the former
president, he has once again

1810
01:47:10,349 --> 01:47:14,099
called the indictment, a witch
hunt. How is what he's saying

1811
01:47:14,099 --> 01:47:16,949
today landing among the folks
there at the convention?

1812
01:47:17,009 --> 01:47:20,759
Well, Alex, they loved it. You
know, we long asked since this

1813
01:47:20,759 --> 01:47:22,919
happens, I guess not long, just
in the last couple of days how

1814
01:47:22,919 --> 01:47:25,979
Republicans across the country
we're going to react I've spoken

1815
01:47:25,979 --> 01:47:29,429
to so many Republicans,
particularly around Washington

1816
01:47:29,429 --> 01:47:33,449
around Trump's inner circle, who
are concerned However, here in

1817
01:47:33,449 --> 01:47:36,449
Georgia, they did not seem to
have any concern. They cheered

1818
01:47:36,449 --> 01:47:40,019
him on. They enjoyed his lines
where he mocked Hillary Clinton.

1819
01:47:40,199 --> 01:47:43,859
He called Jackson it's deranged.
He went after former President

1820
01:47:43,859 --> 01:47:48,539
Biden called it a joke. federal
indictment saying it was

1821
01:47:48,539 --> 01:47:49,919
horrible for the country.

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01:47:50,070 --> 01:47:53,010
Adam Curry: Former President
Biden Whoa, good one.

1823
01:47:54,150 --> 01:47:55,530
John C Dvorak: know something we
don't know.

1824
01:47:55,890 --> 01:48:02,340
Adam Curry: Truth must come out.
That's a good one. All right.

1825
01:48:02,340 --> 01:48:06,930
Let's just finish it off. Of
course, he works for Trump. He's

1826
01:48:06,930 --> 01:48:10,950
a pen but he also worked in the
treasury cash Patel, but I'm

1827
01:48:10,950 --> 01:48:14,790
sorry, in the Defense
Department, maybe also treasury.

1828
01:48:15,150 --> 01:48:18,330
Air but he's on with Kudlow and
he explains exactly what is

1829
01:48:18,330 --> 01:48:19,830
going on with this simple let's

1830
01:48:19,830 --> 01:48:22,650
Unknown: take the indictment on
face value. President Trump

1831
01:48:23,160 --> 01:48:25,770
brought things with him from the
White House when he was leaving

1832
01:48:25,770 --> 01:48:29,190
the presidency. And I believe it
was either tomorrow Lago

1833
01:48:29,190 --> 01:48:31,290
Bedminster I can't remember
which one which one he went to

1834
01:48:31,290 --> 01:48:36,300
first. Okay. It doesn't matter
if he took a sticky note, or

1835
01:48:36,300 --> 01:48:39,960
10,000 boxes of information.
Last count, I had it President

1836
01:48:39,960 --> 01:48:42,720
Obama was still going through 3
million pages of documents he

1837
01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:45,810
took. And it doesn't matter
what's in them, either. The same

1838
01:48:45,810 --> 01:48:48,990
law would apply to him. And so
the Presidential Records Act is

1839
01:48:48,990 --> 01:48:52,440
simple. The President can take
whatever he wants when he leaves

1840
01:48:52,440 --> 01:48:56,070
office. That's it. And and
here's the kicker, part of that

1841
01:48:56,070 --> 01:49:00,720
access, it becomes his or her
personal property. That means

1842
01:49:00,990 --> 01:49:03,690
transitions from being US
government property to the

1843
01:49:03,690 --> 01:49:07,200
personal private property of the
past president. That's the

1844
01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:10,560
Presidential Records Act in a
nutshell, if Congress wanted,

1845
01:49:10,980 --> 01:49:13,590
the classification acts and
espionage acts written in the

1846
01:49:13,590 --> 01:49:16,620
50s to supersede the
Presidential act written after

1847
01:49:16,620 --> 01:49:19,140
it, they would have written the
Presidential Records Act

1848
01:49:19,140 --> 01:49:22,800
differently. The law that comes
after supersedes the prior

1849
01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:27,180
unless Congress says otherwise.
They didn't say otherwise. In

1850
01:49:27,180 --> 01:49:31,200
the Presidential Records Act
creation. In the indictment, you

1851
01:49:31,200 --> 01:49:37,320
see a paragraph or two about how
President Trump is speaking to

1852
01:49:37,320 --> 01:49:41,430
his lawyer about options. And if
you know President Trump, which

1853
01:49:41,430 --> 01:49:44,550
you know, which I know you do,
and of course, I'm still a

1854
01:49:44,550 --> 01:49:47,640
senior advisor and I talk to him
frequently. He jokes all the

1855
01:49:47,640 --> 01:49:52,110
time. That's his mannerism a
lot. You can't capture that in a

1856
01:49:52,110 --> 01:49:56,490
black and white. typecast, but
let's put that aside for a

1857
01:49:56,490 --> 01:50:00,210
second. So they took that and
they said this, we went to a

1858
01:50:00,210 --> 01:50:02,880
federal judge, a federal judge
ruled that attorney client

1859
01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:05,460
privilege doesn't doesn't apply
because there's a crime fraud

1860
01:50:05,460 --> 01:50:07,440
exception. Wow.

1861
01:50:09,300 --> 01:50:11,070
Adam Curry: Totally. So I'm glad
he said that it doesn't matter

1862
01:50:11,070 --> 01:50:13,680
for Biden or for Trump, which is
also true, which is why I want

1863
01:50:13,770 --> 01:50:17,220
you to get off the whole boat,
but but Biden, we've done it,

1864
01:50:17,220 --> 01:50:20,310
we've deconstructed it, thanks
to your clips. This is all about

1865
01:50:20,310 --> 01:50:22,440
Iran. This is about the balance
in the world. We can't have

1866
01:50:22,440 --> 01:50:25,140
Trump upsetting the military
industrial complex, and all

1867
01:50:25,140 --> 01:50:28,710
people hanging off on it. It's
the biggest line item in our

1868
01:50:28,740 --> 01:50:33,600
annual budget, projected to once
again be about $850 billion

1869
01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:38,820
dollars. And Republicans and
Democrats alike are all in on

1870
01:50:38,820 --> 01:50:44,760
that. There's no way around it.
And so I feel good about it. I

1871
01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:47,790
feel good that you've brought
this to light, new shit has come

1872
01:50:47,790 --> 01:50:51,030
to light man. Pitch the

1873
01:50:51,150 --> 01:50:54,660
John C Dvorak: house actually
trying to track down some Ray

1874
01:50:54,660 --> 01:50:58,110
McGovern stuff is when I ran
into this. This is a strange

1875
01:50:58,110 --> 01:51:00,750
podcast. I can't remember. I'm
sorry. I don't have the name of

1876
01:51:00,750 --> 01:51:06,240
it. But the podcasts themselves
kind of just lets people talk he

1877
01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:07,650
doesn't really have much to
contribute.

1878
01:51:07,740 --> 01:51:09,390
Adam Curry: Well, that's
interesting. I think it was a

1879
01:51:09,390 --> 01:51:16,500
clip I had for the last show of
RFK, Jr, you may have seen this

1880
01:51:16,500 --> 01:51:19,650
one. If I talked about what I
was thinking about it would have

1881
01:51:19,650 --> 01:51:23,070
I would have been D platformed.
But once Ilan took over, I

1882
01:51:23,070 --> 01:51:29,280
started you know, they they they
unshackled me. But also I think

1883
01:51:29,280 --> 01:51:33,210
this is going to be this year is
going to be the political

1884
01:51:33,210 --> 01:51:37,710
campaign that will be decided on
by podcasts and particularly

1885
01:51:37,710 --> 01:51:43,380
because the candidates are not
wanting to debate. So not only

1886
01:51:43,410 --> 01:51:47,520
not only is Biden not debating,
but I think Trump may not debate

1887
01:51:52,020 --> 01:51:56,490
so I think people like me are
going to end up going to are

1888
01:51:56,490 --> 01:51:59,820
gonna, you know, we're going to
really test whether these

1889
01:51:59,820 --> 01:52:05,100
podcasts and you know, I was
talking about, about Tucker,

1890
01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:12,360
having 4.5 million nightly
views. Well, the podcast that

1891
01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:19,290
Joe Rogan did with Peter mycolic
got 40 million views. So Rogan

1892
01:52:19,290 --> 01:52:24,930
is a force of nature. Yeah, so
Tucker is 10 times what CNN is,

1893
01:52:25,470 --> 01:52:29,880
gets, and 10 Rogan's audiences
potentially 10 times what Tucker

1894
01:52:29,880 --> 01:52:34,230
was getting. I think the I think
the podcast has the capacity

1895
01:52:34,230 --> 01:52:38,010
this election for reaching
people and allowing an old sort

1896
01:52:38,010 --> 01:52:41,190
of dissident and insurgent
candidates like myself to end

1897
01:52:41,190 --> 01:52:46,260
run the corporate media
monoliths and to reach large

1898
01:52:46,530 --> 01:52:51,000
numbers of Americans without
going to the network's That's

1899
01:52:51,000 --> 01:52:58,170
right. We're the kingmakers go
podcast. Yeah, and with that I'd

1900
01:52:58,170 --> 01:53:00,060
like to thank you for your
courage in the morning to you

1901
01:53:00,060 --> 01:53:03,720
the man who put the seat in the
mental status change ladies and

1902
01:53:03,720 --> 01:53:06,000
gentlemen please say hello to my
friend on the other end the one

1903
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:07,410
and only Mr. Jobs

1904
01:53:11,850 --> 01:53:13,680
John C Dvorak: in the morning to
you Mr. Adam, curiosity and

1905
01:53:13,680 --> 01:53:16,740
morning all ships to see boots
on the ground feed near subs in

1906
01:53:16,740 --> 01:53:18,900
the water and all the name
tonight's okay in the morning.

1907
01:53:24,960 --> 01:53:32,610
Adam Curry: Wow, okay, we are to
2321 Isn't that good for a

1908
01:53:32,610 --> 01:53:33,240
Sunday?

1909
01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:36,900
John C Dvorak: It's a bad it's
probably 100 Low 100 Low. Oh man

1910
01:53:36,900 --> 01:53:40,560
for 2400 on Sunday and 1800 on

1911
01:53:41,490 --> 01:53:45,600
Adam Curry: Thursday 18 Sunday's
20 Also, we're taking this break

1912
01:53:45,660 --> 01:53:49,410
at a buck 53 Because we only
have one break in the show. It's

1913
01:53:49,410 --> 01:53:52,530
going to be pretty quick. We
don't even have nights or days

1914
01:53:52,530 --> 01:53:56,370
or title changes or anything.
Which of course, always makes us

1915
01:53:56,370 --> 01:54:03,780
question. Are we providing
enough value? I hope I hope we

1916
01:54:03,780 --> 01:54:04,110
are.

1917
01:54:05,880 --> 01:54:08,880
John C Dvorak: Anyway learning
stuff. They better be I think

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01:54:08,880 --> 01:54:11,040
that I am

1919
01:54:11,100 --> 01:54:13,950
Adam Curry: I learned something.
Hey, you know, I learned

1920
01:54:13,950 --> 01:54:17,640
something. That's what's good.
The trolls are in the troll room

1921
01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:20,640
and they and there's not a lot
of them, which is nice. Yeah,

1922
01:54:20,640 --> 01:54:22,740
yeah. So I'm gonna write it down
on a sticky note. I have it now.

1923
01:54:22,770 --> 01:54:25,800
And now I know what it is. For
those of them who haven't run

1924
01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:28,890
away, of course, you'll get the
secret numbers and our special

1925
01:54:28,890 --> 01:54:33,150
guests interview during the
donation segment. You can join

1926
01:54:33,150 --> 01:54:37,110
them at troll room.io You can
chat along there in one of those

1927
01:54:37,440 --> 01:54:41,580
FBI infiltrated chat rooms.
You'll also if you do this with

1928
01:54:41,820 --> 01:54:45,420
you can do that on trovato but
go to podcast apps.com Get

1929
01:54:45,420 --> 01:54:48,720
yourself a modern podcast app.
This is connected to the podcast

1930
01:54:48,720 --> 01:54:54,330
index, which will not be
platform as as RFK Jr. said

1931
01:54:54,330 --> 01:54:58,560
their deep platform. No one gets
taken off the apps just continue

1932
01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:00,960
to have your favorite podcast
there. which as you know, is the

1933
01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:03,780
future of the elections. That's
where it's all happening. You

1934
01:55:03,780 --> 01:55:06,900
don't want to watch or listen to
M five M, you want to be tuned

1935
01:55:06,900 --> 01:55:12,330
into podcasts. Make sure you do
that. In addition to that, you

1936
01:55:12,330 --> 01:55:16,440
can always follow us on our
Mastodon server another another

1937
01:55:16,440 --> 01:55:19,830
place where, you know, the only
deep platforming this done is by

1938
01:55:19,830 --> 01:55:22,590
the server you're on, because
they might have put us on, you

1939
01:55:22,590 --> 01:55:25,020
know, use the block list.
Because of course, we're

1940
01:55:25,020 --> 01:55:28,440
dangerous, so dangerous. And I'm
sure we have many FBI informants

1941
01:55:28,440 --> 01:55:30,810
who have infiltrated no agenda
social.com

1942
01:55:31,320 --> 01:55:36,030
John C Dvorak: and enjoying it
and enjoying it. Exactly. This

1943
01:55:36,060 --> 01:55:38,700
can I get that assignment?
Please. Can

1944
01:55:38,700 --> 01:55:41,130
Adam Curry: I have the no
agenda? Guys? Come on, man.

1945
01:55:41,130 --> 01:55:43,620
They're fun. I want to be with
those guys. They got great

1946
01:55:43,620 --> 01:55:46,830
memes, which is true. We do have
a lot of good memes on there.

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01:55:47,250 --> 01:55:49,800
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah.
Follow up. In particular loads

1948
01:55:49,800 --> 01:55:52,740
up I think every night. Eight
o'clock goes nuts.

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01:55:54,390 --> 01:55:57,990
Adam Curry: No, no agenda
social.com You can follow Adam

1950
01:55:57,990 --> 01:56:00,960
at no agenda social.com You can
follow Jhansi Dvorak at no

1951
01:56:00,960 --> 01:56:03,420
agenda. social.com part of our
value for value mission. The

1952
01:56:03,420 --> 01:56:06,030
reason why we're still here,
because we've never taken creepy

1953
01:56:06,030 --> 01:56:09,210
corporate money. We don't take
advertising we live and die by

1954
01:56:09,210 --> 01:56:13,020
your returning value, which you
can do in three ways time,

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01:56:13,020 --> 01:56:16,620
talent and treasure. We always
like to thank people who do such

1956
01:56:16,620 --> 01:56:20,100
great work Dino in particular,
was putting together the new

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01:56:20,100 --> 01:56:23,280
being at.io, which is just a
fantastic resource. You can use

1958
01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:27,960
it for your for your research
projects. You can I like

1959
01:56:28,350 --> 01:56:31,320
searching for stuff that we've
talked about that you probably

1960
01:56:31,350 --> 01:56:33,780
notice because it goes up the
transcripts. Thank you, Dred

1961
01:56:33,780 --> 01:56:36,630
Scott, have gone all the way
back to Episode One, two,

1962
01:56:36,660 --> 01:56:39,690
everything we've talked about is
searchable. It comes up with the

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01:56:39,690 --> 01:56:42,510
results. You click on the link
you hear the audio, which is

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01:56:42,510 --> 01:56:45,450
often funny because I sound like
a girl for some reason. In some

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01:56:45,450 --> 01:56:48,270
of these clips. I don't know
what's going on. Oh, yes.

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Something like that. Hello. We
love thanking our artists who

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01:56:54,750 --> 01:56:58,140
support us by creating great
album art. We have something Oh,

1968
01:56:58,740 --> 01:57:02,520
Apple in their new version are
now 19 years later in the new

1969
01:57:02,520 --> 01:57:05,100
version of their podcasts. This
is why you should dump them

1970
01:57:05,130 --> 01:57:09,690
sorry apple, but they're finally
going to support support. album

1971
01:57:09,690 --> 01:57:15,810
art per episode. It's been in
the spec for lawyers to take 19

1972
01:57:15,810 --> 01:57:21,210
years apparently. It's taken him
forever. That's why if you use

1973
01:57:21,210 --> 01:57:26,070
the modern podcast if you get
all the art chapter is all kinds

1974
01:57:26,070 --> 01:57:29,310
of stuff that just that's flying
around, you know, that

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01:57:29,310 --> 01:57:32,340
transcripts, all kinds of cool
stuff. Also searchable in your

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01:57:32,340 --> 01:57:39,270
app, by the way. I made a
mistake. I gave Taunton Neil,

1977
01:57:40,050 --> 01:57:44,760
but I mean Ness works the credit
for the previous work. Where it

1978
01:57:44,760 --> 01:57:47,190
was it was on Titan yield. It
was Taunton, Neil, so I

1979
01:57:47,220 --> 01:57:48,540
apologize for that. I

1980
01:57:48,540 --> 01:57:50,220
John C Dvorak: use it. You've
done that a couple of times, and

1981
01:57:50,220 --> 01:57:53,040
I've always caught you and I'm
very feel I feel it was my

1982
01:57:53,040 --> 01:57:53,580
fault.

1983
01:57:54,420 --> 01:57:56,370
Adam Curry: Well, we both
screwed up and we're sorry about

1984
01:57:56,370 --> 01:58:01,800
it. But Taunton, Neil gets the
credit now. And we want

1985
01:58:02,010 --> 01:58:03,840
John C Dvorak: effect I thought
during the thing I said, Well,

1986
01:58:03,840 --> 01:58:05,850
this will move her up the list I
always actually

1987
01:58:05,880 --> 01:58:08,640
Adam Curry: you're looking at
you're looking at no agenda art

1988
01:58:08,640 --> 01:58:13,170
generator.com where we have a
rancor, all kinds of writers

1989
01:58:13,200 --> 01:58:16,560
Rancors whackers and Rancors
right there on the front page.

1990
01:58:17,310 --> 01:58:22,410
But today we thank damn Kenny
Ben, for the artwork for episode

1991
01:58:22,410 --> 01:58:26,820
1562 We titled that Think Tank
and how could we not choose

1992
01:58:26,820 --> 01:58:31,920
this? This was just a beautiful
I would say

1993
01:58:33,750 --> 01:58:34,980
John C Dvorak: oddly creepy.

1994
01:58:35,970 --> 01:58:38,190
Adam Curry: Creepy but it was a

1995
01:58:38,910 --> 01:58:40,980
John C Dvorak: it's like the man
of the future. Yeah, the

1996
01:58:40,980 --> 01:58:41,940
combination of

1997
01:58:42,270 --> 01:58:47,130
Adam Curry: we talked about the
Apple vision pro there ar VR

1998
01:58:47,250 --> 01:58:52,890
Visual Computing glasses. And
this one had the glasses on or a

1999
01:58:52,890 --> 01:58:57,000
version of them with obey which
of course is a throwback a call

2000
01:58:57,000 --> 01:59:01,770
back to they live with Roddy
Piper great movie if you haven't

2001
01:59:01,770 --> 01:59:07,230
seen it. It was a good piece of
art. It was you know, the more

2002
01:59:07,230 --> 01:59:09,300
you look at it the more creeped
out you get.

2003
01:59:10,050 --> 01:59:12,690
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I know it's
creepy but not creepy in the

2004
01:59:12,690 --> 01:59:16,470
negative sense no words gruesome
and makes you cringe it's not

2005
01:59:16,470 --> 01:59:21,510
cringy creepy it's just it's
it's kind of realism creepy it's

2006
01:59:21,510 --> 01:59:23,670
like this is the future get used
to it

2007
01:59:23,700 --> 01:59:27,870
Adam Curry: or the future is
here was kind of now there were

2008
01:59:27,870 --> 01:59:32,370
other pieces we discussed many
people tried the glasses gag

2009
01:59:33,540 --> 01:59:36,360
chapelco to or had a funny one
with the googly eyes we liked

2010
01:59:36,360 --> 01:59:40,950
that one see

2011
01:59:41,040 --> 01:59:44,010
John C Dvorak: capitalists
agenda had a nice piece which

2012
01:59:44,460 --> 01:59:48,000
vision glasses with no agenda
anything thing

2013
01:59:48,030 --> 01:59:50,250
Adam Curry: with a gas mask
canister attached to it.

2014
01:59:52,200 --> 01:59:55,710
John C Dvorak: Had a sitar and
yes, now this piece really stood

2015
01:59:55,710 --> 01:59:56,910
out. I thought it did.

2016
01:59:56,940 --> 02:00:01,170
Adam Curry: It was classic. No
agenda. I kinda like to Taunton

2017
02:00:01,170 --> 02:00:05,640
Niels, it's Jenny, although, you
know, good point you made there

2018
02:00:06,270 --> 02:00:09,540
that I know you made some point
that was like I should get off

2019
02:00:09,570 --> 02:00:11,580
by the way I got a note about
the Jenny thing.

2020
02:00:13,530 --> 02:00:15,240
John C Dvorak: No, what is it?

2021
02:00:15,929 --> 02:00:20,459
Adam Curry: Let me see. It's
from a lawyer. FEMA Region

2022
02:00:20,459 --> 02:00:21,419
number four

2023
02:00:21,540 --> 02:00:24,510
John C Dvorak: small town lawyer
was at a cease and desist No.

2024
02:00:25,110 --> 02:00:26,070
Small Town

2025
02:00:26,070 --> 02:00:28,110
Adam Curry: Alabama thought I
would share with you a boots on

2026
02:00:28,110 --> 02:00:30,810
the ground story related to the
last episode. I worked for local

2027
02:00:30,810 --> 02:00:33,180
law firm as a legal assistant.
I've done that for almost 30

2028
02:00:33,180 --> 02:00:37,440
years legal assistance. Bottom
line is very long note but you

2029
02:00:37,440 --> 02:00:42,090
can read it in the in the show
notes is that a couple came

2030
02:00:42,090 --> 02:00:47,010
because one of their moms, a
proper southern lady in her mid

2031
02:00:47,010 --> 02:00:51,030
to late 70s, who was a lonely
widow had received text not

2032
02:00:51,060 --> 02:00:54,420
unlike the ones that we got.
Unlike us. She engaged the

2033
02:00:54,420 --> 02:00:56,970
scammers on the other end but
not did not engage with them

2034
02:00:57,150 --> 02:00:59,310
with the same understanding and
purpose that you did on the

2035
02:00:59,310 --> 02:01:02,490
show. She took the bait and by
the time her family found out

2036
02:01:02,490 --> 02:01:05,730
what had been going on she had
over four to five months of

2037
02:01:05,730 --> 02:01:10,710
scammers sending up to $40,000
she had been instructed to do

2038
02:01:10,710 --> 02:01:16,290
via Visa MasterCard gift cards,
and she really thought that she

2039
02:01:16,290 --> 02:01:24,210
was making a friend and she
really thought that by her her I

2040
02:01:24,210 --> 02:01:28,050
think her daughter and and son
in law interfering that they

2041
02:01:28,050 --> 02:01:32,400
were trying to stop her
happiness. This is how good they

2042
02:01:32,400 --> 02:01:37,140
are doing this by Dame Rhonda
synthesis. So you know

2043
02:01:37,140 --> 02:01:39,630
John C Dvorak: we had a local
story I don't have a clip of it.

2044
02:01:39,630 --> 02:01:42,870
We had a local story a couple of
days ago with some woman old

2045
02:01:42,870 --> 02:01:48,450
woman who was got lunch to one
of the scams that's going around

2046
02:01:48,450 --> 02:01:52,770
now as you get a call this has
happened before but now with the

2047
02:01:52,980 --> 02:02:00,510
artificial AI the AI voices
Yeah, they can hi this is your

2048
02:02:00,690 --> 02:02:06,300
this is Jimmy your grandson. I
just got arrested. Yes send

2049
02:02:06,300 --> 02:02:09,420
money, grandma and I need some
money and somebody's gonna have

2050
02:02:09,420 --> 02:02:11,850
to come by and pick it up. Do
you have any because I'm gonna

2051
02:02:11,850 --> 02:02:12,120
be a

2052
02:02:12,300 --> 02:02:13,650
Adam Curry: paper bag brown
paper.

2053
02:02:14,490 --> 02:02:18,000
John C Dvorak: Let me out. Yes,
so she fell for it and it cost

2054
02:02:18,000 --> 02:02:22,650
her five grand and then says she
fell for it. They ran it on her

2055
02:02:22,650 --> 02:02:27,330
again with the same kids. Oh, I
I backed out of the police

2056
02:02:27,330 --> 02:02:30,570
parking lot and rammed into a
car and I need another three

2057
02:02:30,570 --> 02:02:32,880
grand. She coughed that up.

2058
02:02:32,910 --> 02:02:36,270
Adam Curry: No, man. So that's
so sad. Sad. No, these

2059
02:02:36,270 --> 02:02:39,000
John C Dvorak: people are really
sickening that take advantage of

2060
02:02:39,000 --> 02:02:39,720
these poor people.

2061
02:02:39,720 --> 02:02:43,800
Adam Curry: Yeah, so be careful
with with the aged parents. And

2062
02:02:43,800 --> 02:02:48,630
seven he's not even that aged.
Now. In fact, that's 10 years

2063
02:02:48,630 --> 02:02:52,110
from now for me are 12 Seven
he's not not You're not old and

2064
02:02:52,110 --> 02:02:55,770
decrepit. Now, so just be
careful with

2065
02:02:55,800 --> 02:03:01,740
John C Dvorak: this mindset that
of course not the ability not to

2066
02:03:01,920 --> 02:03:05,820
look into things are taken or
thinking there's a scam being

2067
02:03:05,820 --> 02:03:09,720
played on you. And also thing is
if you're a target for a really

2068
02:03:09,720 --> 02:03:12,810
good grifter, yeah. You're gonna
you're

2069
02:03:12,810 --> 02:03:16,410
Adam Curry: gonna go through so
keep an eye on your, on your, on

2070
02:03:16,410 --> 02:03:21,510
all your family, really. You can
follow no agenda, art

2071
02:03:21,510 --> 02:03:24,210
generator.com. While we're doing
this live, we're doing it live.

2072
02:03:24,330 --> 02:03:28,320
You can see the art being
uploaded as we speak. Oregon,

2073
02:03:28,320 --> 02:03:30,450
one of those modern podcast
apps, you'll see all of this

2074
02:03:30,480 --> 02:03:33,090
art, which Dred Scott puts into
the chapters, you can see all

2075
02:03:33,090 --> 02:03:35,790
the different choices and he
uses them appropriately. It's a

2076
02:03:35,790 --> 02:03:40,080
lot of fun. So of course, we
also have our treasure part,

2077
02:03:40,080 --> 02:03:42,930
which is where we thank our
executive and Associate

2078
02:03:42,930 --> 02:03:45,180
Executive producers for
supporting the show. We need

2079
02:03:45,180 --> 02:03:48,210
that more than anything to be
honest about. It's a big deal.

2080
02:03:48,540 --> 02:03:51,990
And we kick it off with barren
wasteland from Milford,

2081
02:03:51,990 --> 02:03:57,120
Michigan, who comes in with
333 69. And it's a switcheroo

2082
02:03:57,390 --> 02:04:03,270
for Wendy's future neighborhood.
So we'll put a I guess, Wendy

2083
02:04:03,270 --> 02:04:08,010
wasteland in there? Yes. Even
though it's not probably not her

2084
02:04:08,010 --> 02:04:13,440
name. barren wasteland
requesting milk karma. Okay,

2085
02:04:13,620 --> 02:04:18,390
milk karma for my smokin hot
wife. I'm in the doghouse. Oh,

2086
02:04:18,900 --> 02:04:23,820
because I said I love her for
her mind. And she wants more

2087
02:04:23,820 --> 02:04:29,790
body worship. What is this?

2088
02:04:30,150 --> 02:04:32,160
John C Dvorak: We live in a
talk.

2089
02:04:32,190 --> 02:04:35,610
Adam Curry: We live in Milford,
Michigan because MILF city

2090
02:04:35,610 --> 02:04:46,380
couldn't handler Oh, you got it
sir. That's one mother. You've

2091
02:04:46,380 --> 02:04:47,700
got karma.

2092
02:04:51,540 --> 02:04:55,530
John C Dvorak: And up next we
have Dana Brunetti of all P O.

2093
02:04:55,530 --> 02:04:58,590
Adam Curry: Dana Brunetti
producer who has

2094
02:04:59,640 --> 02:05:02,700
John C Dvorak: come in and
whispering are at $33.33 and he

2095
02:05:02,940 --> 02:05:07,410
sent a note this morning into me
saying that he this was a drunk

2096
02:05:07,410 --> 02:05:08,130
donation.

2097
02:05:08,430 --> 02:05:11,130
Adam Curry: Oh, well we love
those are your claims it

2098
02:05:11,130 --> 02:05:14,910
John C Dvorak: was drunk. Well,
I can deal with it. I'll do with

2099
02:05:14,910 --> 02:05:18,420
a little, little bit. So in
other words, he's not wasted

2100
02:05:18,420 --> 02:05:24,510
drunk. Guy I guess he's, oh, no,
he's just gonna be a little

2101
02:05:24,510 --> 02:05:25,410
slurries he

2102
02:05:25,410 --> 02:05:26,550
Adam Curry: tipsy little tipsy,

2103
02:05:26,880 --> 02:05:32,280
John C Dvorak: tipsy. He starts
off call to action. The

2104
02:05:32,280 --> 02:05:37,800
donations lately have been
despicable. Come on people.

2105
02:05:37,800 --> 02:05:41,910
Today is my 50th birthday. Don't
send me gifts and donations with

2106
02:05:41,910 --> 02:05:48,840
50s in them instead of
50,552 50. That's where he's,

2107
02:05:48,960 --> 02:05:53,490
you know, he's big sentences
falling apart. But you'll be

2108
02:05:53,490 --> 02:05:56,550
alive to hearing now is just
starting to feel it. You'll be a

2109
02:05:56,550 --> 02:06:01,440
lousy associate producer, which
should be just producer enough

2110
02:06:01,440 --> 02:06:05,820
with his BS associate. Okay,
this is Burnett, he's got this

2111
02:06:05,820 --> 02:06:10,410
hard on Yeah. Over our usage of
the Associate Producer ship.

2112
02:06:10,440 --> 02:06:14,580
Yeah, he thinks that stems from
the fact that he wants donated,

2113
02:06:15,030 --> 02:06:20,310
gotta know, some years back 250
bucks, which kind of puts in

2114
02:06:20,310 --> 02:06:23,460
here and we gave him associate
producer ship and he blew up?

2115
02:06:24,000 --> 02:06:29,160
Because to him the Hollywood
method model is that associate

2116
02:06:29,160 --> 02:06:31,470
producer as a title you get some
lackey?

2117
02:06:31,650 --> 02:06:33,180
Adam Curry: Yeah, like an
intern.

2118
02:06:34,950 --> 02:06:38,370
John C Dvorak: intern or, or
somebody who's just showed up to

2119
02:06:38,400 --> 02:06:42,780
do something you don't you're
not gonna pay them. And so now

2120
02:06:42,780 --> 02:06:46,530
it varies from business to
business. You I've noticed this

2121
02:06:46,530 --> 02:06:51,060
in, in in various like magazine
publishing, newspaper

2122
02:06:51,060 --> 02:06:57,000
publishing, everyone online,
they have an executive editor is

2123
02:06:57,000 --> 02:07:01,500
not the same from thing to thing
to thing. And I think with

2124
02:07:01,500 --> 02:07:04,680
podcasting, I think we've chosen
this we have not backed down

2125
02:07:04,680 --> 02:07:07,800
based on we're not going to back
down Friday. Godly woods for the

2126
02:07:07,800 --> 02:07:10,740
guy who did one guy pitching
constantly. 50 Shades

2127
02:07:10,740 --> 02:07:12,990
Adam Curry: of Grey guy come on,
like, you know.

2128
02:07:14,070 --> 02:07:16,590
John C Dvorak: So we sticking
with this even though he says it

2129
02:07:16,590 --> 02:07:19,560
should be as just produced
between producers, which is

2130
02:07:19,560 --> 02:07:23,160
which is a good title. Anyway,
he goes on, he says, Can I sit

2131
02:07:23,160 --> 02:07:25,410
at the round table and eat
birthday cake? Or will there

2132
02:07:25,410 --> 02:07:28,620
even be enough donations for a
knighting ceremony this show?

2133
02:07:28,650 --> 02:07:31,440
Adam Curry: Oh, wait a minute.
So he is you know, he's been

2134
02:07:31,440 --> 02:07:34,320
knighted. That's what I thought.
Okay, title change, then.

2135
02:07:34,500 --> 02:07:36,390
John C Dvorak: He just wants to
sit there. Oh,

2136
02:07:36,450 --> 02:07:39,780
Adam Curry: you know, there's,
interestingly enough, there's no

2137
02:07:39,780 --> 02:07:43,140
round. There's no no knighting
today, so the round table is

2138
02:07:43,230 --> 02:07:43,830
empty. So

2139
02:07:43,830 --> 02:07:45,060
John C Dvorak: the joke's on him

2140
02:07:50,730 --> 02:07:51,690
by himself for

2141
02:07:51,690 --> 02:07:53,550
Adam Curry: a while he comes in
at the right moment with his

2142
02:07:53,580 --> 02:07:55,680
complaints. Now he goes

2143
02:07:55,680 --> 02:07:58,740
John C Dvorak: on. I know I've
told John I'm done with

2144
02:07:58,740 --> 02:08:02,550
Hollywood. But it's kind of like
the mafia. I can't seem to get

2145
02:08:02,550 --> 02:08:05,700
out. So I have a movie coming
out. No, I guess go see it is

2146
02:08:05,700 --> 02:08:07,140
called GranTurismo

2147
02:08:07,170 --> 02:08:09,390
Adam Curry: right after the
grantor is that like,

2148
02:08:09,959 --> 02:08:11,699
John C Dvorak: is that video
good Eastwood?

2149
02:08:12,030 --> 02:08:14,370
Adam Curry: I don't know. That's
this movie.

2150
02:08:14,459 --> 02:08:17,009
John C Dvorak: There is a movie
called Gran Turismo with Clint

2151
02:08:17,009 --> 02:08:20,189
Eastwood. That's 10 years old. I
don't know what movie this is.

2152
02:08:20,249 --> 02:08:22,499
I'm gonna look at we'll have to
look into it. He wants you to

2153
02:08:22,499 --> 02:08:27,119
look it up on IMDb. China's
moving my orchard with the robot

2154
02:08:27,119 --> 02:08:31,019
lawnmower. mowing my orchard
with a robot lawnmower. He says

2155
02:08:31,019 --> 02:08:34,799
you can go people should follow
his Instagram account. He's got

2156
02:08:34,799 --> 02:08:38,429
one. It's pretty funny. And he's
got his he's got some little

2157
02:08:38,429 --> 02:08:42,539
Chinese mower. A little turd
like thing. Godhra wheels. This

2158
02:08:42,540 --> 02:08:47,100
Adam Curry: thing has Orlando
Bloom in it is oh, yeah, it's

2159
02:08:47,100 --> 02:08:50,910
like, it's like, this is a movie
of the games. Yeah, Todd knew

2160
02:08:50,910 --> 02:08:52,770
it. Interesting.

2161
02:08:53,790 --> 02:08:56,130
John C Dvorak: China's remote
mowing my Oh, and he goes on.

2162
02:08:56,280 --> 02:09:00,150
There's a long note, Dana. John
and I became real friends

2163
02:09:00,150 --> 02:09:02,940
recently when Alex and I were
supposed to eat well, we almost

2164
02:09:02,940 --> 02:09:05,580
became real friends. When are we
going to have busy breakfast at

2165
02:09:05,580 --> 02:09:09,000
his house. But then he canceled
on us. So he had to pick up

2166
02:09:09,000 --> 02:09:12,090
someone at the airport. This is
how bad the donations have

2167
02:09:12,090 --> 02:09:19,410
gotten. He's resorted to being
an Uber driver. Also, can I tell

2168
02:09:19,410 --> 02:09:22,140
you up two bills for wine and
dinner? We've had his donations

2169
02:09:22,140 --> 02:09:22,710
so

2170
02:09:25,980 --> 02:09:29,250
Adam Curry: Wow, okay. All
right, then. It's just

2171
02:09:29,280 --> 02:09:32,040
John C Dvorak: you know, please
change my title the governor of

2172
02:09:32,040 --> 02:09:38,910
the great state of Eldorado.
John can explain. Well, he's he

2173
02:09:38,910 --> 02:09:44,370
has caught wind of the fact that
trying to change where he lives

2174
02:09:44,370 --> 02:09:47,610
into the state of Eldorado. Now
he's trying to he's trying to do

2175
02:09:47,610 --> 02:09:51,660
one of those and I guess myself
and another bunch of locals have

2176
02:09:51,660 --> 02:09:53,940
told him why he stuck Why
doesn't he run for governor

2177
02:09:53,940 --> 02:09:56,880
then? And so he just wants to
change his title to Governor

2178
02:09:56,880 --> 02:09:57,720
makes it easier

2179
02:09:57,750 --> 02:10:00,330
Adam Curry: no problem. Consider
it done bro. Consider It dumps

2180
02:10:00,330 --> 02:10:05,550
out this this is a massive cast
he's he is listed as producer

2181
02:10:05,550 --> 02:10:09,360
not executive but producer. Less
he's probably produced. Yeah, I

2182
02:10:09,360 --> 02:10:14,400
guess oh with Doug Belgrad and
it's a man it's an Orlando Bloom

2183
02:10:14,400 --> 02:10:18,600
vehicle as we say in the biz.
Yes, we've, we've, we've got to

2184
02:10:18,600 --> 02:10:26,070
Lando blooms people are very
interested Gran Turismo nice

2185
02:10:26,070 --> 02:10:27,270
man, congratulations.

2186
02:10:27,300 --> 02:10:30,570
John C Dvorak: What's the story
plot? Does it say? Well,

2187
02:10:30,840 --> 02:10:40,140
Adam Curry: yes, of course it
does. The plot is this IMDb is

2188
02:10:40,140 --> 02:10:43,890
slow. The ultimate wish
fulfillment tale of teenage Gran

2189
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Turismo player whose gaming
skills won a series of Nissan

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02:10:46,980 --> 02:10:50,280
competitions to become an actual
professional racecar driver

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02:10:50,370 --> 02:10:59,100
based on a based on a true
story. Nice, yeah. Looks pretty

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02:10:59,100 --> 02:11:01,050
cool. This is the kind of guy be
good. He

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John C Dvorak: does good work.

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02:11:02,040 --> 02:11:04,920
Adam Curry: So when you become
an executive producer or

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02:11:04,920 --> 02:11:08,220
Associate Executive Producer of
the no agenda show, this is the

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02:11:08,220 --> 02:11:12,660
ranks of people you're in with
on IMDb. Yes, reference, this

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02:11:12,660 --> 02:11:16,800
guy cross reference. Very cool.
Thank you, Dana. And we will of

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02:11:16,800 --> 02:11:20,790
course, give you that title
change. Do you end with his

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bottoms up?

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02:11:22,740 --> 02:11:24,510
John C Dvorak: Oh, he says
bottoms up. He says that all the

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time. All right. Thank you also
refers to drinks that way.

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02:11:29,970 --> 02:11:32,610
Adam Curry: So see, you're so
fast. Sir. SCOBY is next

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02:11:32,610 --> 02:11:35,520
Charlotte, North Carolina 333
dot 33. In the morning, your

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02:11:35,520 --> 02:11:38,940
coverage of trans Maoism is well
done and much appreciated. Thank

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02:11:38,940 --> 02:11:41,460
you for educating us so we can
talk to the topic with

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02:11:41,460 --> 02:11:45,240
confidence on a lighter Ned
note. Too many eggs is

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02:11:45,240 --> 02:11:49,320
absolutely wonderful. Too many
eggs.com George Washington's

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02:11:49,350 --> 02:11:54,660
eggnog will be a new addition to
festivities in my home. Yes,

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George Washington's egna I'm
going to make it George

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02:11:58,080 --> 02:12:01,050
Washington's eggnog and I'm
going to drop in my false teeth

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02:12:01,050 --> 02:12:04,290
just to make it authentic.
Appreciate you both sir. SCOBY

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02:12:04,350 --> 02:12:06,300
roll off the Piedmont Thank you
very much sir

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02:12:08,040 --> 02:12:13,560
John C Dvorak: Nelson Mullins in
East Lake Ohio comes up. Ben

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02:12:13,590 --> 02:12:17,040
began listening in Episode 100
or so so we're going to quit

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02:12:17,370 --> 02:12:20,910
thank you Leo for introducing me
to the best podcast in the

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02:12:20,910 --> 02:12:24,840
universe. Do donation please
forgive me pot father for I have

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02:12:24,840 --> 02:12:28,560
deuced been a couple of years
since my last donation call out

2218
02:12:28,560 --> 02:12:34,080
Tom is a douchebag he's got some
jingle requests your weenie in

2219
02:12:34,080 --> 02:12:36,750
the butt boy you got butt
slammed but slammed and then a

2220
02:12:36,750 --> 02:12:40,140
Hot Pocket karma for all
producers. Thank you. Whoa, you

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02:12:40,140 --> 02:12:41,730
got butt slam

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02:12:48,600 --> 02:12:53,310
Adam Curry: you've got karma.
Happy to comply. Gail Fuller,

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02:12:53,340 --> 02:12:56,160
our first Associate Executive
producer or some would say

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02:12:56,160 --> 02:13:00,930
producer incoming ga $250. This
donation is made to celebrate my

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02:13:00,930 --> 02:13:05,580
husband Scott fuller completing
his 47 trip around the sun. I

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02:13:05,580 --> 02:13:09,270
said son in honor of this
momentous occasion all he asked

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02:13:09,270 --> 02:13:12,630
for was new socks a good
barbecue and a no agenda

2228
02:13:12,630 --> 02:13:15,690
donation. So here you go. Happy
Birthday Scott.

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02:13:17,250 --> 02:13:19,890
John C Dvorak: is on the list
and of course, sir Timothy in

2230
02:13:19,890 --> 02:13:23,460
Plymouth Michigan 201 33 Dear
John and Adam thank you for all

2231
02:13:23,460 --> 02:13:26,730
you do please send travel karma
conference presentation karma

2232
02:13:27,210 --> 02:13:31,440
and relocation karma in equal
measure no jingles just super

2233
02:13:31,440 --> 02:13:36,360
karma. Thanks in advance sir
Timothy of no fixed titled Baron

2234
02:13:36,360 --> 02:13:38,010
of the Upper Peninsula super

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02:13:38,010 --> 02:13:44,280
Adam Curry: karma and coming
with Karma do you live

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02:13:45,660 --> 02:13:47,790
Unknown: to the karma karma?
supercomputer

2237
02:13:48,210 --> 02:13:51,150
John C Dvorak: Peninsula
Michigan is where fudge was

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02:13:51,150 --> 02:13:51,780
invented.

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02:13:52,500 --> 02:13:58,200
Adam Curry: Well, how about
that? Linda, Lou Potkin,

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Lakewood, Colorado. Jobs karma
for all of you job hunters out

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02:14:02,640 --> 02:14:06,960
there. And for a competitive
edge Go to Image makers inc.com

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02:14:06,960 --> 02:14:10,110
For all your exclusive resume
and job needs. That's image

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makers Inc with a k.com

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02:14:13,080 --> 02:14:16,710
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs.

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02:14:20,790 --> 02:14:22,500
Karma Well, at least

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02:14:23,820 --> 02:14:26,520
Adam Curry: Linda's consistent.
Appreciate that. Yeah, she

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02:14:26,520 --> 02:14:29,970
John C Dvorak: keeps donating
for the plug. Yeah, Jim Chu and

2248
02:14:29,970 --> 02:14:34,500
Andover, Massachusetts. $200.
See note I do have the note.

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02:14:34,530 --> 02:14:39,900
Okay. And he said, printed notes
of Jim from Andover. 200 bucks.

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It's been so long since I have
donated I've been feeling very

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02:14:44,100 --> 02:14:49,020
douchey hence, I here with
bequeath unto thee a token of my

2252
02:14:49,020 --> 02:14:55,560
appreciation for the abundant
value you provide. If I may, if

2253
02:14:55,560 --> 02:15:04,050
I may be racist. We Asians sure
love value and I

2254
02:15:04,770 --> 02:15:08,850
Adam Curry: always Asian price.
There it is now that's racist.

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Yes. Oh we love our Asian races.

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02:15:11,400 --> 02:15:14,670
John C Dvorak: Yeah. And I love
and I so love the no agenda

2257
02:15:14,670 --> 02:15:19,470
show. Thanks for all the always
remaining folks for always

2258
02:15:19,470 --> 02:15:23,940
remaining folks that the
partisan of both reality A and B

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02:15:24,030 --> 02:15:27,300
exaggerate and take things out
of context and make people crazy

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02:15:27,300 --> 02:15:31,110
upset that the same time I
appreciate how you shine needed

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02:15:31,110 --> 02:15:35,220
light on the evil which is being
so widely perpetrated in the

2262
02:15:35,220 --> 02:15:38,970
name of good a prayer requests
of the community for all tech

2263
02:15:38,970 --> 02:15:43,110
business types who have been
laid off recently and are seeing

2264
02:15:43,260 --> 02:15:46,350
very few openings to apply for
this as a fact, especially

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02:15:46,350 --> 02:15:50,520
around here. A lot of people are
quite scared. He's in

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02:15:50,520 --> 02:15:53,610
Massachusetts, which is another
Tech Center. Finally a shout out

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02:15:53,610 --> 02:15:56,190
to the creator of the universe
and his son Jesus who did it for

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02:15:56,190 --> 02:15:58,920
me what I could not do for
myself create me and forgive me.

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02:15:59,070 --> 02:16:04,290
Jim Chao is pronounced Ciao,
chumps. No jingles no karma.

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02:16:04,320 --> 02:16:04,890
Ciao. Ciao.

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02:16:07,770 --> 02:16:10,440
Adam Curry: Ciao to you,
brother. Thank you. Excellent.

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02:16:10,830 --> 02:16:13,530
And that is our executive and
Associate Executive Producer

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02:16:13,530 --> 02:16:18,300
lists for episode 1563 of the no
agenda show. As I said, it's,

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02:16:18,600 --> 02:16:21,810
it's pretty short. And we do
have a couple of other donations

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02:16:21,810 --> 02:16:23,850
through the 50s. John's gonna
take you there and then we'll

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02:16:23,850 --> 02:16:27,360
get to our birthdays and our
meetups and we'll, we'll get the

2277
02:16:27,360 --> 02:16:28,350
rest of the show going.

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02:16:29,610 --> 02:16:32,880
John C Dvorak: We'll start with
medieval Chris, in north Wales,

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02:16:32,880 --> 02:16:37,770
Pennsylvania, and 12345 which is
a great number and he needs a D

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02:16:37,770 --> 02:16:38,310
douching.

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02:16:40,980 --> 02:16:42,180
Unknown: D deuced.

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02:16:44,610 --> 02:16:49,650
John C Dvorak: Zach Schwartz and
Allah Chuah Alachua I'm

2283
02:16:49,650 --> 02:16:54,060
guessing, Florida $100.69. And
we'll give you some

2284
02:16:54,060 --> 02:16:59,280
housebuilding karma at the end.
Which you request then oops,

2285
02:16:59,310 --> 02:17:02,370
there he is way up there. He's
already number 12 which is the

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02:17:02,370 --> 02:17:05,670
highest he's been for a while in
terms of the same donation

2287
02:17:05,670 --> 02:17:08,970
moving up the ladder, because
there's not that many donations

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02:17:08,970 --> 02:17:13,710
today. Kevin McLaughlin in New
York, Lucas, North Carolina 808.

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02:17:13,710 --> 02:17:19,980
For America in boobed Craig Carl
would in Utopia Texas. Seven.

2290
02:17:22,800 --> 02:17:27,120
Carol I'm sorry, Cory Ainsworth
with a birthday in Madison,

2291
02:17:27,120 --> 02:17:32,700
Wisconsin. 6988. He says he's
been listening for over 500

2292
02:17:32,700 --> 02:17:37,380
shows. Joseph Stegman at 1000
Oaks, California for 66. Up

2293
02:17:37,380 --> 02:17:45,120
Kevin McLaughlin again he's
holding up the show. Oh oh six

2294
02:17:45,120 --> 02:17:54,420
small boob donation. Paul Allen
of Waynesboro, Virginia. $60 He

2295
02:17:54,420 --> 02:17:57,510
has the best business cards.
Band straw in Nashville,

2296
02:17:57,510 --> 02:18:03,840
Tennessee. Sunday brunch over
easy 5993 Lester Tarr kowski in

2297
02:18:03,840 --> 02:18:08,430
Kingman Arizona. 57. Sir, not
Jake and Thompson, Connecticut

2298
02:18:08,430 --> 02:18:15,720
5678. seeds, seeds and sundries
liberty, Michigan, Maine and

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02:18:15,720 --> 02:18:18,630
liberty Maine. This is calling
all Mainers Yeah, go ahead and

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02:18:20,370 --> 02:18:23,640
check out the no agenda meetup
page for our inaugural Mini Me

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02:18:23,640 --> 02:18:24,750
is meetup

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Adam Curry: Midcoast. Coming up.
Yeah, I'll read it again in a

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02:18:27,240 --> 02:18:29,400
moment. David Fergus zotoh.

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02:18:29,490 --> 02:18:32,970
John C Dvorak: Our buddy in
Gladstone, Missouri. 55 To my

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02:18:32,970 --> 02:18:38,070
Bay. This is the bay we're the
only Bay we've gotten so far.

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02:18:38,100 --> 02:18:43,470
Adam Curry: Very successful
promotion. Yeah, baby.

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02:18:45,600 --> 02:18:48,930
John C Dvorak: We got brain of
Frager in Richmond Hill,

2308
02:18:48,930 --> 02:18:53,280
Georgia. And this is a
switcheroo donate for per Bay.

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02:18:53,520 --> 02:18:59,220
Justin love you Bay. Nice. So we
had to. There may be another one

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02:18:59,220 --> 02:19:06,420
coming up. I said I'd read them
all. Jura Geron, your rune, ya

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02:19:06,420 --> 02:19:11,730
ruined, then paneling in in
Laguna Niguel. Oh, he's in

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02:19:11,730 --> 02:19:17,070
California and Netherlands. 55
Sir Mark in Greenwood, Indiana

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02:19:17,070 --> 02:19:18,690
5333 Which

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02:19:18,719 --> 02:19:21,929
Adam Curry: through donation
from Sir Mark Greenwood to his

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02:19:21,929 --> 02:19:25,499
keeper de Maria of the Greek
kingdoms kingdoms and he says

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02:19:25,559 --> 02:19:28,229
you are simply amazing. I think
that's a bay donation. I think

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02:19:28,229 --> 02:19:30,119
that's a bay donations and put
the bay in there.

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02:19:30,720 --> 02:19:34,650
John C Dvorak: Christine Hines
in Manchester New Hampshire.

2319
02:19:34,650 --> 02:19:40,800
5123 Bob Butler and coming
Georgia he has two donations of

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02:19:40,800 --> 02:19:43,500
5069 one and there's another one

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02:19:43,530 --> 02:19:45,660
Adam Curry: I make good for his
missing his regular Thursday.

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02:19:45,660 --> 02:19:48,300
Thank you, Bob. Bad idea

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02:19:48,300 --> 02:19:52,380
John C Dvorak: supply. Parts
Unknown. I don't know $50 or 50

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cents. Dame night in Edmonds,
Washington 5015. Sir Allen in

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02:20:00,630 --> 02:20:06,210
the middle Bank of South Dakota
5014. He's got a birthday coming

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up for Edward. And here we go.
Nadia borg in San Marcos,

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02:20:11,850 --> 02:20:17,640
California 50 These are all 50s
including Margarita, Yves den

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02:20:17,640 --> 02:20:23,130
hood, in orange Vale,
California. 50 Tom del Vecchio

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02:20:23,130 --> 02:20:29,790
and blend in Pennsylvania.
Andrew Grasso in Mineola. New

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02:20:29,790 --> 02:20:34,320
York, Gavin McGoldrick in San
Francisco, Cory Cunningham and

2331
02:20:34,320 --> 02:20:39,930
Warren Warren tun Virginia.
Stephen tacony I'm just seeking

2332
02:20:39,930 --> 02:20:47,280
help for this bay thing went to
Stephen we got nothing going on

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02:20:47,280 --> 02:20:47,820
here now the

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02:20:47,820 --> 02:20:49,470
Adam Curry: bay thing is not

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02:20:50,550 --> 02:20:52,710
John C Dvorak: there's no
basically nobody has a bay I

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02:20:52,710 --> 02:20:53,190
guess.

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02:20:53,370 --> 02:20:54,960
Adam Curry: I don't even know
why. How did you even come up

2338
02:20:54,960 --> 02:20:57,240
with that we I mean did you
literally look at for what the

2339
02:20:57,240 --> 02:21:00,390
hell's going on you just chat
GPT it or something? And he said

2340
02:21:00,390 --> 02:21:01,260
no, no, I

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02:21:01,260 --> 02:21:03,840
John C Dvorak: went to I have a
list of this special days and

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02:21:03,840 --> 02:21:06,270
it's just it was up there and I
said well and came up with this

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02:21:06,270 --> 02:21:06,930
one Sean

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02:21:06,930 --> 02:21:10,380
Adam Curry: Parker. Carter. I
mean, Jay Z Shawn Carter.

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02:21:11,310 --> 02:21:14,850
John C Dvorak: Stephen tuck the
Littleton Colorado Morrow top yo

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02:21:14,850 --> 02:21:21,090
in Savannah, Georgia. Needs a
Morrow needs a de douching

2347
02:21:23,400 --> 02:21:28,110
Adam Curry: deep dish where the
bay is where the bays

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02:21:28,290 --> 02:21:31,530
John C Dvorak: Andrew Perez and
San Marcos who has a switcheroo

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02:21:31,530 --> 02:21:34,770
for his brothers Lou's birthday,
okay. And at least we got that

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02:21:34,770 --> 02:21:35,700
out of the way and says

2351
02:21:35,700 --> 02:21:38,250
Adam Curry: please do do Shem is
he's an awesome brother. Totally

2352
02:21:38,250 --> 02:21:39,030
not a douche.

2353
02:21:41,880 --> 02:21:46,530
John C Dvorak: D deuced. And
last in our list of fabulous 41

2354
02:21:46,530 --> 02:21:51,540
donors out of a million
listeners. Ricky worthy in San

2355
02:21:51,540 --> 02:21:55,620
Lorenzo California. 50 bucks
from him. That's it.

2356
02:21:55,650 --> 02:21:57,480
Adam Curry: Those are our
donations I did want good to

2357
02:21:57,480 --> 02:22:01,080
hear from San Lorenzo once in a
while. did want to mention we

2358
02:22:01,080 --> 02:22:06,510
got Lindsey Nolo checks and
notes from the $500 donation

2359
02:22:06,510 --> 02:22:09,630
from the last show which we did
not have the whole note is in

2360
02:22:09,630 --> 02:22:14,850
there. But she was explaining
why Nola checks noted check

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02:22:14,850 --> 02:22:19,740
meats had to close. And I think
it's important to to hear this.

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02:22:20,280 --> 02:22:22,740
I said the end of the day we
realize the current system isn't

2363
02:22:22,740 --> 02:22:26,070
set up for small business like
ours to succeed and is based on

2364
02:22:26,070 --> 02:22:29,250
a pay to play model they had
some of the best meats in the

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02:22:29,250 --> 02:22:33,960
business, fourth generation meat
people. Our tax dollars are

2366
02:22:33,960 --> 02:22:37,500
subsidizing programs, economic
development, rural development,

2367
02:22:37,500 --> 02:22:40,170
grant programs, workforce
development, etc. that are meant

2368
02:22:40,170 --> 02:22:43,140
to assist small businesses. But
really, the reality is that

2369
02:22:43,140 --> 02:22:46,140
unless you fit a niche like
women or minority owned, are

2370
02:22:46,140 --> 02:22:49,530
willing to spend 1000s on grant
writing or join the good ol boys

2371
02:22:49,530 --> 02:22:52,470
club, it isn't all that it's
cracked up to be. At the end of

2372
02:22:52,470 --> 02:22:55,170
the day, I don't want free money
from the government if I'm going

2373
02:22:55,170 --> 02:22:58,230
to succeed let it be on my own
merits. And furthermore, when we

2374
02:22:58,230 --> 02:23:01,020
are receiving no return on the
investment of taxes, fees,

2375
02:23:01,020 --> 02:23:03,210
permits insurance, all the
things we're required to

2376
02:23:03,210 --> 02:23:06,120
participate in if we are to do
business, the only other

2377
02:23:06,120 --> 02:23:09,180
recourse is to remove ourselves
from the game. It's a brutal

2378
02:23:09,180 --> 02:23:11,760
reality for sure. But this
decision is brought back a sense

2379
02:23:11,760 --> 02:23:15,090
of control amid the chaos and to
be honest, it feels good to take

2380
02:23:15,090 --> 02:23:17,970
it back. I spent a lot of time
thinking about the no agenda

2381
02:23:17,970 --> 02:23:20,730
model of time, talent and
treasure and how it works in my

2382
02:23:20,730 --> 02:23:24,750
life. Time is precious, and my
talents have value. And if I'm

2383
02:23:24,750 --> 02:23:26,910
not seeing a return on my
treasure, it's time to take

2384
02:23:26,910 --> 02:23:30,540
responsibility and do something
about it. The insatiable beast

2385
02:23:30,570 --> 02:23:33,570
that has become our government
will never be satisfied and

2386
02:23:33,570 --> 02:23:36,570
we're tired of feeding it. It's
been a humbling endeavor. No

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02:23:36,570 --> 02:23:39,090
doubt I wasn't prepared for the
overwhelming outpouring of

2388
02:23:39,090 --> 02:23:42,330
sadness, concern and kindness,
not just for our business, but

2389
02:23:42,330 --> 02:23:45,180
as individuals as well. There
are so many good people out

2390
02:23:45,180 --> 02:23:47,880
there in the same boat as US
frustrated, tired and even

2391
02:23:47,880 --> 02:23:51,150
angry. There's power in sharing
our story and encouraging and

2392
02:23:51,150 --> 02:23:54,270
engaging a discourse with people
because the end of the day we're

2393
02:23:54,270 --> 02:23:57,240
all in this together. No
promotions for the public for

2394
02:23:57,240 --> 02:24:00,690
online orders. However, the no
agenda discount is active, so

2395
02:24:00,690 --> 02:24:04,440
please feel free to use ITM 33
at checkout save 15% on your

2396
02:24:04,440 --> 02:24:08,250
order. This is it while stocks
last. In closing. We cannot

2397
02:24:08,250 --> 02:24:11,070
thank the no agenda nation for
the outpouring of support over

2398
02:24:11,070 --> 02:24:15,000
the last three years. As I was
hitting the mouth by chat and

2399
02:24:15,000 --> 02:24:17,550
started sharing our treasure to
support the best podcast in the

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02:24:17,550 --> 02:24:20,700
universe. Take care God bless
and keep fighting the good fight

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02:24:20,880 --> 02:24:24,570
from Lindsey. And we're sorry to
see you close but we cannot wait

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02:24:24,570 --> 02:24:28,050
to see what you have in store
for us next. And thank you again

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02:24:28,050 --> 02:24:31,440
to everyone who supported all of
the all the executive producers

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Associate Executive Producers go
ahead put that into your IMDB

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right up there with Dana and
other Hollywood luminaries

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because these credits are real
and they are of course wherever

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02:24:41,790 --> 02:24:44,550
credits are recognized and
unlike the douchebags in

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02:24:44,550 --> 02:24:47,880
Hollywood, not udana if anyone
questions it, we'll be happy to

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02:24:47,880 --> 02:24:51,870
vouch for you. Thank you again
for supporting no agenda 1563

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02:24:53,070 --> 02:24:57,450
Unknown: Our formula is this. We
go out. We get people in the

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02:24:57,450 --> 02:25:00,120
mouth Hey

2412
02:25:10,200 --> 02:25:14,040
Adam Curry: as requested the
house karma you've got karma

2413
02:25:22,980 --> 02:25:26,640
do have a nice list here make it
shows turn 32 yesterday as did

2414
02:25:26,640 --> 02:25:29,580
Dana Brunetti. Well, I didn't
turn 32 He turned 50 Happy

2415
02:25:29,580 --> 02:25:32,430
Birthday Dana. Greg Weinberg
Happy Birthday and best wishes

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02:25:32,430 --> 02:25:36,240
to his son Edward turn 14
Yesterday Andrew Perez wishes

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his brother Lulu Happy Birthday
that'll be on the 13th scale for

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02:25:39,540 --> 02:25:43,020
which is Scott fuller Happy
Birthday 47 today and Corey

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02:25:43,020 --> 02:25:46,230
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birthday for everybody here the

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best podcast in the universe

2421
02:25:57,450 --> 02:26:01,440
don't want to be incorrectly
stated we had no title changes

2422
02:26:01,440 --> 02:26:05,340
but we do sir Dana Brunetti now
becomes governor of the great

2423
02:26:05,340 --> 02:26:10,500
state of Eldorado and we are
happy to have him here. The

2424
02:26:10,500 --> 02:26:14,850
roundtable title we're gonna
give him that if he wants it he

2425
02:26:14,850 --> 02:26:17,040
can have that title it's all
good with me brother.

2426
02:26:26,880 --> 02:26:29,940
Quick report from the piece of
pepperoni Greece meet up the

2427
02:26:29,940 --> 02:26:33,510
Raleigh meetup was a blast says
Ryan sir Jheri curl. I had the

2428
02:26:33,510 --> 02:26:36,060
best belly laugh and months
thanks to a terrible open mic

2429
02:26:36,060 --> 02:26:38,250
performer and that was in
Raleigh, California. Thanks very

2430
02:26:38,250 --> 02:26:43,590
much. Today Indianapolis the NA
tribe and allies kicks off about

2431
02:26:43,590 --> 02:26:47,730
now actually a prodigy Burger
Bar 96th Street. The Bar Hop

2432
02:26:47,730 --> 02:26:52,770
extravaganza stopped five kicks
off in an hour at fun and finer

2433
02:26:52,770 --> 02:26:56,940
things in Gladewater, Texas. And
then we have the next one on

2434
02:26:56,940 --> 02:27:00,150
Tuesday Ozarks deconstruction
zone six o'clock at Lindbergh

2435
02:27:00,150 --> 02:27:03,450
Tavern in Springfield, Missouri.
We have the next show day

2436
02:27:03,450 --> 02:27:06,780
Thursday Kingstown house party
will private home in Alexandria

2437
02:27:06,780 --> 02:27:12,180
Virginia. spook check no
agenda.com for that. The Mike's

2438
02:27:12,210 --> 02:27:16,980
as as we heard earlier, Mike's
Thursday we have the mid What

2439
02:27:16,980 --> 02:27:17,550
are you drinking?

2440
02:27:18,510 --> 02:27:21,300
John C Dvorak: I hate to say it
but it's the same look wha

2441
02:27:21,360 --> 02:27:24,810
Lacroix whatever you bribery
pronounce a koala something like

2442
02:27:24,810 --> 02:27:28,290
that. This would be my last
candidate. I got it. I'm moving

2443
02:27:28,290 --> 02:27:29,550
on to polar.

2444
02:27:30,150 --> 02:27:33,180
Adam Curry: Moving on moving on
the Midcoast Maine thirsty Third

2445
02:27:33,180 --> 02:27:36,870
Thursday in liberty. Sorry, the
Liberty meet up in Liberty

2446
02:27:36,870 --> 02:27:40,440
Maine. This is Brian and Susie I
know him very well. They are

2447
02:27:40,440 --> 02:27:45,090
definitely cool to hang out
with. And so that note again

2448
02:27:45,090 --> 02:27:47,760
call me they donated calling all
Mainers check the no agenda

2449
02:27:47,760 --> 02:27:51,450
meetup page for our inaugural
Midcoast Maine meetup that's at

2450
02:27:51,450 --> 02:27:54,360
Lake St. George brewery and
liberty main this Thursday at

2451
02:27:54,360 --> 02:27:57,480
five o'clock pizza and salad
will be provided. We couldn't

2452
02:27:57,480 --> 02:28:00,360
find one. So we started one.
There you go. That's how you do

2453
02:28:00,360 --> 02:28:01,200
it. Also, I

2454
02:28:01,200 --> 02:28:04,620
John C Dvorak: thought I thought
that the main Mainers call

2455
02:28:04,620 --> 02:28:06,120
themselves maniacs.

2456
02:28:07,350 --> 02:28:11,520
Adam Curry: Well, John at the
vortech.org Everybody, they go

2457
02:28:11,850 --> 02:28:14,880
north Idaho Sandy brigade their
third Thursday meet up five

2458
02:28:14,880 --> 02:28:17,880
o'clock at Selkirk Abbey and
Post Falls Idaho on Thursday,

2459
02:28:17,880 --> 02:28:22,290
the summer affirming care at 630
in Denver City Park, Denver,

2460
02:28:22,290 --> 02:28:25,740
Colorado and finally Charlotte's
Thursday thirsty Third Thursday

2461
02:28:25,740 --> 02:28:28,350
easy for you to say with false
teeth seven o'clock at Ed's

2462
02:28:28,350 --> 02:28:31,200
Tavern in Charlotte, North
Carolina. Just a few of the

2463
02:28:31,200 --> 02:28:35,040
meetups listed on no agenda
meetups.com It is the connection

2464
02:28:35,040 --> 02:28:38,580
to your community. This is where
you want to be everyone needs it

2465
02:28:38,580 --> 02:28:42,570
now more than ever, and oh keep
you sane as well. And you made

2466
02:28:42,570 --> 02:28:46,410
fun people and sometimes when
fun fine and fun prizes. No

2467
02:28:46,410 --> 02:28:48,900
agenda meetups are college you
can't find one near you start

2468
02:28:48,900 --> 02:28:56,460
when yourself it's always a
partay with all the Dyson days

2469
02:28:59,490 --> 02:29:06,630
be triggered everybody feels the
same

2470
02:29:13,980 --> 02:29:18,330
I show choices for the end of
show. When he got I'll play him

2471
02:29:18,330 --> 02:29:20,700
off. I'll play mine first. Here
we go. gobbledygook.

2472
02:29:21,480 --> 02:29:26,070
gobbledygook. Anyhow. And this
is my favorite

2473
02:29:26,100 --> 02:29:27,930
Unknown: 1,000,000,000%

2474
02:29:28,410 --> 02:29:31,860
Adam Curry: A little muffled
kind of like the 1,000,000,000%

2475
02:29:32,700 --> 02:29:35,700
John C Dvorak: Okay, well, I've
got you. Okay, let's start with

2476
02:29:35,730 --> 02:29:43,200
mega mega right Maga. Okay. And
then we have this one which is

2477
02:29:43,230 --> 02:29:45,510
potentially good, which is
offensive.

2478
02:29:45,930 --> 02:29:47,280
Unknown: Just so offensive.

2479
02:29:51,360 --> 02:29:53,370
Adam Curry: For me, it's between
offensive

2480
02:29:53,430 --> 02:29:56,910
Unknown: just so offensive and
1,000,000,000%

2481
02:29:57,450 --> 02:29:59,400
Adam Curry: I think offense all
y'all combined.

2482
02:29:59,700 --> 02:30:04,410
Oh Let me see how that works.
Which one first offensive first?

2483
02:30:04,590 --> 02:30:05,310
Offense hard? Yeah,

2484
02:30:05,340 --> 02:30:08,190
Unknown: just so offensive
1,000,000,000%

2485
02:30:08,460 --> 02:30:12,420
Adam Curry: I can combine them.
Boom, boom, boom. All right,

2486
02:30:12,449 --> 02:30:13,379
John C Dvorak: I love fly.

2487
02:30:13,410 --> 02:30:16,860
Adam Curry: Alright, Sean
Carter. Way to go.

2488
02:30:19,740 --> 02:30:20,490
Unknown: Let's see,

2489
02:30:20,520 --> 02:30:21,900
Adam Curry: what do we have? Oh,
I have

2490
02:30:21,900 --> 02:30:27,420
John C Dvorak: an eyeball clip.
Okay, funny clip my my, my clip

2491
02:30:27,420 --> 02:30:32,670
custodian Mimi got this for me.
This is about there's a

2492
02:30:33,330 --> 02:30:37,140
operation out of Chicago that
collects bodies for people who,

2493
02:30:37,140 --> 02:30:41,250
you know, they donate their body
to medicine, and I guess these

2494
02:30:41,250 --> 02:30:45,480
bodies aren't very well
maintained. And, and so they

2495
02:30:45,480 --> 02:30:48,840
sent them off to these hospitals
and the like, and they sent them

2496
02:30:48,840 --> 02:30:53,670
back to this rats inside this
body. So here's the fox 32. Now

2497
02:30:53,670 --> 02:30:56,640
the problem with this report is
this woman is not very

2498
02:30:56,640 --> 02:30:59,940
professional shouldn't have, she
needs a dead kitten or something

2499
02:30:59,940 --> 02:31:03,480
on the mic, because it's windy
report, but it's still worth

2500
02:31:03,480 --> 02:31:04,200
listening to.

2501
02:31:04,470 --> 02:31:07,740
Unknown: And I'm Casey Cronus.
live downtown with a bombshell

2502
02:31:07,740 --> 02:31:12,870
allegation, Anatomical Gift
association of Illinois. And we

2503
02:31:12,870 --> 02:31:16,740
need to warn you the details and
some of the images in this story

2504
02:31:16,890 --> 02:31:21,750
are disturbing is also known as
the AIGA. The association is

2505
02:31:21,750 --> 02:31:25,620
more than a century old.
Individuals can choose to donate

2506
02:31:25,620 --> 02:31:28,890
their bodies to science after
their death, and that's where

2507
02:31:28,890 --> 02:31:32,760
the association comes in working
with eight medical schools in

2508
02:31:32,760 --> 02:31:35,880
this state, but the
transportation coordinator for

2509
02:31:35,880 --> 02:31:39,870
the association is coming
forward with claims that bodies

2510
02:31:39,900 --> 02:31:43,380
are being mishandled and
mistreated before they are sent

2511
02:31:43,380 --> 02:31:47,340
to local hospitals and schools.
Some He alleges are even

2512
02:31:47,340 --> 02:31:51,120
returned by medical institutions
because they are in such poor

2513
02:31:51,120 --> 02:31:55,290
shape. So Wheatley has worked
for the AIGA for five years.

2514
02:31:55,410 --> 02:31:59,160
We've blurred this next image,
but it is still graphic of his

2515
02:31:59,160 --> 02:32:02,010
claims. Mr. Wheatley says that
when he approached his

2516
02:32:02,010 --> 02:32:05,940
supervisors with his concerns
about procedures, three

2517
02:32:05,970 --> 02:32:10,230
dismembered heads from donated
bodies were left at his desk.

2518
02:32:10,560 --> 02:32:13,710
During the press conference with
an attorney today. He also

2519
02:32:13,710 --> 02:32:17,460
detailed some of the conditions
he says he's discovered and

2520
02:32:17,460 --> 02:32:20,910
tells us they have requested an
investigation through the

2521
02:32:20,910 --> 02:32:23,040
Illinois Department of Public
Health.

2522
02:32:24,150 --> 02:32:27,180
My boss walked by I asked him
why the heads were at my desk.

2523
02:32:28,560 --> 02:32:31,050
He told me they need to get back
with their bodies. So we just

2524
02:32:31,050 --> 02:32:34,110
sent him the cremation. I said,
I understand that. Why are they

2525
02:32:34,110 --> 02:32:38,940
at my desk? And he told me,
Well, I don't know Dale, there's

2526
02:32:38,940 --> 02:32:42,120
a lot of strange things
happening. There's been

2527
02:32:42,120 --> 02:32:46,050
instances where I've pulled
dollars from our storeroom out

2528
02:32:46,050 --> 02:32:51,180
of the racks, and rats have
chewed through the bottom to the

2529
02:32:51,180 --> 02:32:51,600
feet.

2530
02:32:52,380 --> 02:32:56,850
Now according to its website,
the AIGA observes practices with

2531
02:32:56,850 --> 02:33:01,020
utmost respect and privacy.
We've made multiple attempts to

2532
02:33:01,020 --> 02:33:05,160
reach the Hga by phone and email
but are still waiting for their

2533
02:33:05,160 --> 02:33:05,760
response.

2534
02:33:05,910 --> 02:33:12,270
Adam Curry: All right, me me
bend over here comes clip. two

2535
02:33:12,270 --> 02:33:17,130
clips in the day for the Dvorak
family today. Very good. That's

2536
02:33:17,130 --> 02:33:17,700
a good clip.

2537
02:33:18,000 --> 02:33:21,540
John C Dvorak: Why are there
three? That's never done. Three

2538
02:33:21,540 --> 02:33:21,780
heads

2539
02:33:21,780 --> 02:33:25,980
Adam Curry: on my desk. That's
an evergreen. I need to bring

2540
02:33:25,980 --> 02:33:27,870
this up real quick. Just because
we have to keep our eye on it.

2541
02:33:27,870 --> 02:33:29,370
Something's up. The EU's

2542
02:33:29,370 --> 02:33:33,270
Unknown: internal market
commissioner has called on a

2543
02:33:33,270 --> 02:33:37,680
meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg to take
immediate action after report

2544
02:33:37,680 --> 02:33:41,550
this week found that Instagram
has the most Child Sexual Abuse

2545
02:33:41,550 --> 02:33:46,020
material out of any social media
network. Joining me to talk more

2546
02:33:46,020 --> 02:33:49,170
about this is our technology
editor, Peter O'Brien. Peter,

2547
02:33:49,170 --> 02:33:53,040
great to see you this is abuse
on a monumental scale.

2548
02:33:53,280 --> 02:33:56,970
Yes, so the Wall Street Journal
and The Stanford internet

2549
02:33:57,000 --> 02:34:02,340
observatory revealed this week,
vast network of child sexual

2550
02:34:02,340 --> 02:34:06,900
abuse material people buying it
and selling it via metters

2551
02:34:06,930 --> 02:34:11,670
popular image platform
Instagram. Now what shocked me

2552
02:34:11,670 --> 02:34:15,030
the most was that a lot of these
accounts were purportedly run by

2553
02:34:15,030 --> 02:34:20,790
children themselves, researchers
identified 405 accounts selling

2554
02:34:20,820 --> 02:34:24,930
child sex material, some run it
seems by children as young as

2555
02:34:24,930 --> 02:34:30,120
12. These had 10s of 1000s of
followers in total, but even

2556
02:34:30,120 --> 02:34:34,350
this just scratches the surface.
The Wall Street Journal cited

2557
02:34:34,380 --> 02:34:37,170
current and former metto
employees who reckon that

2558
02:34:37,260 --> 02:34:40,710
hundreds of 1000s if not
millions of accounts exist

2559
02:34:40,710 --> 02:34:43,860
almost solely to follow this
kind of content.

2560
02:34:44,100 --> 02:34:47,490
Adam Curry: Now, there's a lot
of stories about child

2561
02:34:47,490 --> 02:34:53,370
pornography, on social networks,
meta and this also in the US you

2562
02:34:53,370 --> 02:34:56,550
hearing this it seems to be the
worst now. It's not the child

2563
02:34:56,550 --> 02:35:00,570
pornography is depicted there.
But all of these accounts Link

2564
02:35:00,570 --> 02:35:06,810
to child pornography websites in
the US in the EU. I've also

2565
02:35:06,810 --> 02:35:10,230
heard this accusation made
against Twitter. To me I said

2566
02:35:10,230 --> 02:35:13,740
Twitter against Twitter said,
Twitter, Twitter. I don't know

2567
02:35:13,740 --> 02:35:20,970
why I said that is fine. I've
not heard this about YouTube or

2568
02:35:21,840 --> 02:35:26,100
tick tock, so good. So it could
be a couple of things. Now. It

2569
02:35:26,100 --> 02:35:26,670
could be

2570
02:35:27,150 --> 02:35:28,800
John C Dvorak: that
countermeasure by tick tock.

2571
02:35:28,890 --> 02:35:30,630
They're getting those bullcrap
it could

2572
02:35:30,630 --> 02:35:35,220
Adam Curry: be a countermeasure
by tick tock. It could also be a

2573
02:35:35,220 --> 02:35:39,150
countermeasure by Facebook meta,
who wants to have new

2574
02:35:39,150 --> 02:35:42,510
legislation, you know, there's
talk of 230 again, and something

2575
02:35:42,510 --> 02:35:45,420
that would give them because
they have all the money and can

2576
02:35:45,420 --> 02:35:49,500
afford to whatever to provide
whatever the rules would be. It

2577
02:35:49,500 --> 02:35:53,940
can be that to be and there's a
third option, which is promotion

2578
02:35:53,940 --> 02:35:58,620
for a four part series Docu
series by Mel. There it is by

2579
02:35:58,620 --> 02:36:02,610
Mel Gibson about sex child
trafficking through Ukraine.

2580
02:36:03,720 --> 02:36:05,250
Which is even more interesting.

2581
02:36:05,280 --> 02:36:07,890
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you got the
two double hit there with

2582
02:36:07,890 --> 02:36:11,910
Ukraine and the sex match. Yeah,
underage sex.

2583
02:36:12,029 --> 02:36:15,989
Adam Curry: Now for this next
clip. I had to go to TR T the

2584
02:36:15,989 --> 02:36:19,889
Turkish Radio and Television.
I'm surprised this wasn't maybe

2585
02:36:19,889 --> 02:36:23,279
it was but I all I heard on the
headline news in America was

2586
02:36:23,279 --> 02:36:26,429
Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump
Trump, but the offensive has

2587
02:36:26,429 --> 02:36:27,149
begun.

2588
02:36:30,240 --> 02:36:33,630
Unknown: The months long way is
finally over. Ukraine has

2589
02:36:33,630 --> 02:36:36,690
officially begun that spring
counter offensive. It was

2590
02:36:36,690 --> 02:36:40,170
delayed numerous times due to
various obstacles. But despite

2591
02:36:40,170 --> 02:36:43,470
an almost three month delay from
when it was first expected to

2592
02:36:43,470 --> 02:36:45,660
begin, it's now in full swing

2593
02:36:45,780 --> 02:36:48,870
scholars, which it's important
that Russia always feels the

2594
02:36:48,870 --> 02:36:51,810
pressure feel that they do not
have much time left control

2595
02:36:51,810 --> 02:36:55,080
offensives and defensive actions
are taking place in Ukraine. At

2596
02:36:55,080 --> 02:36:58,170
what stage I will not say in
detail, and I believe that we

2597
02:36:58,170 --> 02:36:59,580
will definitely feel it's all

2598
02:37:01,050 --> 02:37:04,050
Russia's President Vladimir
Putin had hinted beginning of

2599
02:37:04,050 --> 02:37:04,680
the Ukrainian

2600
02:37:05,220 --> 02:37:07,980
Adam Curry: Vladimir Putin. What
is this Vladimir Putin feel it's

2601
02:37:07,980 --> 02:37:08,340
all

2602
02:37:09,840 --> 02:37:12,960
Unknown: Russia's President
Vladimir Putin had hinted at the

2603
02:37:12,960 --> 02:37:17,040
credit pushback on Friday,
though at the time, it was yet

2604
02:37:17,040 --> 02:37:20,760
to be confirmed by Keith, who
then was not so impressed

2605
02:37:21,300 --> 02:37:24,630
with the Ukrainian troops have
not achieved the goal is

2606
02:37:24,630 --> 02:37:28,290
assigned to them. This is
absolutely obvious. There have

2607
02:37:28,290 --> 02:37:31,440
been five days of intense
fighting, for example, over the

2608
02:37:31,440 --> 02:37:34,770
past 24 hours and the day
before. So for the past two

2609
02:37:34,770 --> 02:37:38,340
days, there has been very
intense fighting, and the enemy

2610
02:37:38,340 --> 02:37:41,430
did not achieve any success in
any sector.

2611
02:37:41,460 --> 02:37:45,150
Whereas the Kremlin says the
attacks were targeting areas in

2612
02:37:45,150 --> 02:37:48,360
the eastern Donetsk region, as
well as southern territories

2613
02:37:48,360 --> 02:37:52,410
near separate Syria and Odessa,
all areas which have fallen

2614
02:37:52,410 --> 02:37:56,370
under Russian occupation in this
almost 15 month long conflict.

2615
02:37:56,460 --> 02:37:59,760
But Moscow says the challenges
have not faced them during

2616
02:38:00,660 --> 02:38:03,840
the past 24 hours Ukrainian
Armed Forces continue with our

2617
02:38:03,840 --> 02:38:06,660
successful attempts to conduct
offensive operations in the

2618
02:38:06,660 --> 02:38:10,200
south of Donetsk hands approach
here directions as well as the

2619
02:38:10,200 --> 02:38:13,380
history of parking at least
seven different attacks of

2620
02:38:13,380 --> 02:38:16,080
different types in the span of
one day, we have repelled and

2621
02:38:16,080 --> 02:38:17,040
defeated all of them

2622
02:38:17,640 --> 02:38:19,680
Adam Curry: from the people who
change their name to Turkey.

2623
02:38:19,680 --> 02:38:24,300
Yay, now they are changing Putin
to Putin. Putin. No no D en

2624
02:38:24,300 --> 02:38:30,000
Putin remind you how you
pronounce it. Putin and I have

2625
02:38:30,000 --> 02:38:36,360
to say I've been following this.
How pathetic is it in 2023 to be

2626
02:38:36,360 --> 02:38:39,540
looking at drone footage of
tanks blowing each other up in

2627
02:38:39,540 --> 02:38:44,910
an open field? This this is your
great offensive it's sad. It's

2628
02:38:44,910 --> 02:38:49,140
sad on it's on so many different
accounts. This is what it mean.

2629
02:38:49,140 --> 02:38:53,580
This is warfare now. We're all
watching and this drone footage

2630
02:38:53,580 --> 02:38:57,570
and boom I got a tank boom. I
got this. Well, I got the it's

2631
02:38:58,440 --> 02:39:02,340
John C Dvorak: pretty lame here.
CNN did the Battle of the Bulge

2632
02:39:02,340 --> 02:39:04,410
we're witnessing here. No,

2633
02:39:04,680 --> 02:39:09,390
Adam Curry: CNN now. Something
may be up because CNN Erin

2634
02:39:09,390 --> 02:39:13,080
Burnett reports on the Wagner
group the Wagner Wagner group

2635
02:39:13,110 --> 02:39:14,160
firing squad,

2636
02:39:14,460 --> 02:39:17,280
Unknown: Chief of Russia's
private army if any promotions

2637
02:39:17,280 --> 02:39:19,860
and he's certain there will soon
be major Russian losses on the

2638
02:39:19,860 --> 02:39:23,610
battlefield in Ukraine and loss
of territory inside Russia. And

2639
02:39:23,610 --> 02:39:26,310
perversion predicts that those
losses will be so significant

2640
02:39:26,430 --> 02:39:29,970
that firing squads will be
ordered execute the job

2641
02:39:29,970 --> 02:39:33,450
responsible for Russian failures
crush a popular revolt that will

2642
02:39:33,450 --> 02:39:35,610
rise up over the military's
mistakes

2643
02:39:36,660 --> 02:39:40,470
Adam Curry: which is interesting
a revolt inside Russia they're

2644
02:39:40,470 --> 02:39:41,850
going after Putin deals

2645
02:39:41,850 --> 02:39:44,220
Unknown: leave it to the upside
with the with the movie then

2646
02:39:44,340 --> 02:39:48,690
we will now suffer serious
losses. I am absolutely certain

2647
02:39:48,690 --> 02:39:51,930
numbers. Now. We are certainly
losing some Russian territory.

2648
02:39:51,960 --> 02:39:56,040
This part being in the Russian
Federation cut the previous

2649
02:39:56,040 --> 02:39:59,850
video. There will either be a
popular revolt or the State Duma

2650
02:39:59,850 --> 02:40:02,310
will Make a decision for capital
punishment. She

2651
02:40:02,310 --> 02:40:04,770
made a name that gunned them
down.

2652
02:40:05,070 --> 02:40:08,880
And by the way, I can tell you
honestly, I think we're two to

2653
02:40:08,880 --> 02:40:11,610
three months away from the
firing squad.

2654
02:40:12,090 --> 02:40:13,080
Yesterday Chelsea has

2655
02:40:14,130 --> 02:40:18,060
this comes as Ukrainians are
making gains around the key city

2656
02:40:18,090 --> 02:40:18,990
of Baku.

2657
02:40:19,980 --> 02:40:22,620
John C Dvorak: I don't know man,
like well, this is the firing

2658
02:40:22,620 --> 02:40:26,940
squads of the prisoners that are
probably from death row anyway.

2659
02:40:27,510 --> 02:40:31,470
This is just a methodology to
get these guys to fight harder.

2660
02:40:31,470 --> 02:40:36,720
I guess I just I hate these
reports are they're useless.

2661
02:40:37,020 --> 02:40:38,100
Lies. Yeah,

2662
02:40:38,130 --> 02:40:40,890
Adam Curry: this to me is just
you know, this Wagner group. Oh,

2663
02:40:40,890 --> 02:40:44,910
this is this is the the
dangerous Russian private army

2664
02:40:44,910 --> 02:40:47,670
that is fighting back against
the counter offensive but this

2665
02:40:47,670 --> 02:40:52,620
is this is his message. Come on.
It's insulting. It's insulting.

2666
02:40:52,620 --> 02:40:55,440
I did get a couple others oh
actually have a boots on the

2667
02:40:55,440 --> 02:41:00,090
ground from Suresh Wu. He's in
Poland. With his son, they are

2668
02:41:00,090 --> 02:41:05,670
at a car show in Poland. I'd
known that was a thing. And they

2669
02:41:05,670 --> 02:41:09,810
are everywhere. And they were in
an Uber and everything ever. I'm

2670
02:41:09,810 --> 02:41:14,280
sorry, as we know, when you when
you're in a foreign country, get

2671
02:41:14,280 --> 02:41:17,430
in the Uber if you want to know
what's really going on. And so

2672
02:41:17,430 --> 02:41:21,930
they struck up a conversation
with an Uber driver. And he says

2673
02:41:21,930 --> 02:41:24,750
is basically very similar to the
United States in our southern

2674
02:41:24,750 --> 02:41:27,660
border. The Polish started out
wanting to help and be

2675
02:41:27,660 --> 02:41:30,660
benevolent, but now they're
pissed. The Polish government is

2676
02:41:30,660 --> 02:41:33,570
giving free houses to the
Ukrainians and giving cash to

2677
02:41:33,570 --> 02:41:37,710
employers for hiring Ukrainians.
The employers are firing the

2678
02:41:37,710 --> 02:41:40,800
Polish employees to hire
Ukrainians, and make the cash

2679
02:41:40,800 --> 02:41:44,730
grab. Yeah, yeah, I can see why
they're pissed about

2680
02:41:44,730 --> 02:41:47,370
John C Dvorak: Oh, yes. Welcome
to the system.

2681
02:41:47,940 --> 02:41:50,970
Adam Curry: The BBC had a
report. That's good. And we

2682
02:41:50,970 --> 02:41:55,470
left. We left the intro on this
report just for the big ballsy

2683
02:41:55,470 --> 02:41:58,500
pipes. This guy has approved
this guy need him to do it. But

2684
02:41:58,500 --> 02:42:03,360
no agenda drop for us, man, this
guy's got some pipes. As it

2685
02:42:03,360 --> 02:42:07,860
turns out, they have proof that
the Russians blew up the dam.

2686
02:42:08,070 --> 02:42:10,890
Unknown: a clearer picture has
begun to emerge the sequence of

2687
02:42:10,890 --> 02:42:13,830
events that led to the
destruction of the Nova Kahoka

2688
02:42:13,830 --> 02:42:17,040
dam on Tuesday, with some
evidence appearing to support

2689
02:42:17,040 --> 02:42:21,240
Ukraine's claim that Russia blew
it up, seismologists in Norway

2690
02:42:21,240 --> 02:42:24,270
say they detected a number of
huge blasts around the time the

2691
02:42:24,270 --> 02:42:27,930
dam which was in Russia and
hands was breached. Separately,

2692
02:42:27,930 --> 02:42:30,750
Ukraine's domestic security
service released a recording

2693
02:42:30,750 --> 02:42:34,260
which it says points to Moscow's
involvement from care of our

2694
02:42:34,260 --> 02:42:36,510
diplomatic correspondent Paul
Adams reports

2695
02:42:36,660 --> 02:42:40,620
at 254. In the morning on
Tuesday, seismic sensors in

2696
02:42:40,620 --> 02:42:44,100
Romania picked up evidence of a
significant explosion within a

2697
02:42:44,100 --> 02:42:47,910
radius of less than 20 miles
around the dam at another Kafka.

2698
02:42:48,240 --> 02:42:51,120
That according to President
Solinsky is when the dam was

2699
02:42:51,120 --> 02:42:54,480
blown up. Only a very large
quantity of explosives could

2700
02:42:54,480 --> 02:42:58,230
have produced a signal detected
almost 400 miles away. The

2701
02:42:58,230 --> 02:43:02,130
seismologists in Norway say they
detected another weaker seismic

2702
02:43:02,130 --> 02:43:05,820
event about 20 minutes earlier.
People living near the dam

2703
02:43:05,820 --> 02:43:08,790
reported hearing multiple
explosions as it began to give

2704
02:43:08,790 --> 02:43:12,900
way. According to The New York
Times, US spy satellites also

2705
02:43:12,900 --> 02:43:16,680
detected an explosion just
before the dam collapsed the lab

2706
02:43:16,680 --> 02:43:19,920
so nicely to inform better they
are speaking in Madrid, the EU's

2707
02:43:19,920 --> 02:43:23,340
foreign policy chief Josep
Burrell said explosives had been

2708
02:43:23,340 --> 02:43:27,000
planted inside the adjacent
turbine chamber and area under

2709
02:43:27,000 --> 02:43:30,300
Russian control. That explosion
he said could not have been

2710
02:43:30,300 --> 02:43:34,410
caused by anyone else. Ukraine's
domestic intelligence meanwhile,

2711
02:43:34,530 --> 02:43:37,710
has released a recording of what
it says is a phone conversation

2712
02:43:37,710 --> 02:43:41,790
between two unnamed Russian men
discussing how Russia was

2713
02:43:41,790 --> 02:43:48,660
responsible for blowing up the
dam. In the recording, which the

2714
02:43:48,660 --> 02:43:52,560
BBC cannot verify, one says a
Russian sabotage group was

2715
02:43:52,560 --> 02:43:55,680
responsible, but that the
explosion went much further than

2716
02:43:55,680 --> 02:43:58,740
planned. A wealth of evidence
now points to Russia's

2717
02:43:58,740 --> 02:44:02,040
responsibility for this
catastrophic act. It seems the

2718
02:44:02,040 --> 02:44:04,650
destruction of the dam and the
subsequent flooding were

2719
02:44:04,650 --> 02:44:08,490
designed to deny Ukraine one
possible avenue of attack as its

2720
02:44:08,490 --> 02:44:11,820
counter offensive gets underway.
The latest reports from the

2721
02:44:11,820 --> 02:44:14,670
front lines south of
Zaporizhzhya suggest that it's

2722
02:44:14,670 --> 02:44:16,050
now gathering pace

2723
02:44:16,410 --> 02:44:19,080
Adam Curry: is the same playbook
they use for MH 17

2724
02:44:20,700 --> 02:44:23,430
John C Dvorak: Now if it works,
it works

2725
02:44:23,490 --> 02:44:26,100
Adam Curry: like oh we've got
the guys who fired the book

2726
02:44:26,100 --> 02:44:30,660
rocket at the Malaysian Airline
it was 17 or 320 I can remember

2727
02:44:31,410 --> 02:44:36,720
at the at the at the aircraft
now that some phone call Hey,

2728
02:44:36,720 --> 02:44:39,060
yeah, you got you got it. Yeah,
God you shoot it. Yeah, I shot

2729
02:44:39,060 --> 02:44:45,030
it good. But this is the this
was the screwball report that

2730
02:44:45,030 --> 02:44:50,910
I'd love some of our our
detonate detonation experts who

2731
02:44:50,910 --> 02:44:52,800
we have to chime in on.

2732
02:44:53,610 --> 02:44:56,070
Unknown: Officials in Ukraine
are stepping up efforts to

2733
02:44:56,070 --> 02:44:59,580
evacuate people in areas flooded
after the destruction of the

2734
02:44:59,580 --> 02:45:03,270
masses. of horsecar dam earlier
this week Kyiv and many

2735
02:45:03,300 --> 02:45:06,330
international organizations hold
Russia responsible for

2736
02:45:06,330 --> 02:45:09,900
destroying the dam. As water
levels begin to drop. A new

2737
02:45:09,900 --> 02:45:13,800
thread has emerged. Concerns are
now growing about landmines

2738
02:45:13,800 --> 02:45:15,360
dislodged by the floods.

2739
02:45:16,710 --> 02:45:21,240
Adam Curry: Really no. So they
don't detonate they just

2740
02:45:21,240 --> 02:45:24,720
dislodge and float around and
then they don't float or too

2741
02:45:24,720 --> 02:45:29,220
heavy. Right so but I mean it
seems like if they're light if

2742
02:45:29,220 --> 02:45:34,740
the triggers are so light that
you step on them they go off I

2743
02:45:34,740 --> 02:45:37,830
mean, it may be true but I just
like to know if we have we have

2744
02:45:37,860 --> 02:45:40,620
John C Dvorak: ordinance expert
we have some ordinance guys tell

2745
02:45:40,620 --> 02:45:40,890
us hey

2746
02:45:40,920 --> 02:45:42,270
Adam Curry: ordinance guys,
that's what that's what they

2747
02:45:42,270 --> 02:45:47,340
call an ordinance guys. I have a
few more things that I just like

2748
02:45:47,340 --> 02:45:51,030
to get out of here if you don't
mind. Some climate change stuff

2749
02:45:51,060 --> 02:45:53,070
a brand new giant voice system.

2750
02:45:54,240 --> 02:45:55,800
John C Dvorak: Oh, I love those
things. It's

2751
02:45:55,800 --> 02:46:01,800
Adam Curry: a beaut this is at a
a climate change demonstration

2752
02:46:01,830 --> 02:46:05,940
was not registered was illegal.
And you will first hear the

2753
02:46:05,970 --> 02:46:10,590
giant voice system followed by a
new climate change chant.

2754
02:46:11,460 --> 02:46:14,040
Unknown: You are unlawfully in
the roadway and obstructing

2755
02:46:14,040 --> 02:46:17,730
vehicular traffic. You are
ordered to leave the roadway and

2756
02:46:17,730 --> 02:46:22,260
utilize the available sidewalk.
If you do so voluntarily, no

2757
02:46:22,260 --> 02:46:25,380
charges will be placed against
you. If you remain in the

2758
02:46:25,380 --> 02:46:28,800
roadway and refuse to utilize
the sidewalk, you will be played

2759
02:46:28,800 --> 02:46:32,580
rest on the charge of disorderly
conduct. If you do not cooperate

2760
02:46:32,580 --> 02:46:34,800
and accompany the arresting
officer to the Prisoner

2761
02:46:34,800 --> 02:46:38,130
Transport Vehicle, or the
resisting arrest, you may be

2762
02:46:38,130 --> 02:46:41,730
charged with additional things
since you have refused to leave

2763
02:46:41,730 --> 02:46:42,330
the roadway

2764
02:46:49,980 --> 02:46:54,630
Adam Curry: we need clean air
not another billionaire.

2765
02:46:55,260 --> 02:46:57,450
John C Dvorak: I don't get the
connection there. Well, I

2766
02:46:57,450 --> 02:47:00,180
Adam Curry: guess everyone who's
a billionaire is choking you.

2767
02:47:02,370 --> 02:47:09,270
John C Dvorak: I mean, I just
not seeing it have a couple of

2768
02:47:09,270 --> 02:47:13,710
things. Okay, left you I do have
the one I have one clip the

2769
02:47:13,710 --> 02:47:15,390
camera clip I'm going to play at
the end.

2770
02:47:15,420 --> 02:47:18,330
Adam Curry: Okay, well you it's
all you from here on out. Oh,

2771
02:47:18,330 --> 02:47:18,450
I'm

2772
02:47:18,450 --> 02:47:21,270
John C Dvorak: stuck. How's our
time? Look?

2773
02:47:21,780 --> 02:47:23,880
Adam Curry: We got 247 on the
clock everybody.

2774
02:47:24,330 --> 02:47:25,200
John C Dvorak: You gotta wrap

2775
02:47:26,970 --> 02:47:28,740
Adam Curry: we're getting a rap
from the control room. All

2776
02:47:28,740 --> 02:47:30,600
right. Hey, John.

2777
02:47:33,450 --> 02:47:35,790
John C Dvorak: I want to bid
Tucker came out with a second

2778
02:47:36,090 --> 02:47:39,870
edition of his I want to this is
a little plug for the our show.

2779
02:47:39,900 --> 02:47:42,510
Adam Curry: Did he have another
year on a different 100 million

2780
02:47:42,510 --> 02:47:43,500
views was that?

2781
02:47:44,130 --> 02:47:45,780
John C Dvorak: I didn't see it
yet. I actually haven't seen it

2782
02:47:45,780 --> 02:47:50,280
yet. I'm gonna watch it later.
But these guys from value

2783
02:47:50,280 --> 02:47:54,510
tainment is a podcast. I've seen
it. Yeah, we like commenting on

2784
02:47:54,510 --> 02:47:58,650
this thing. And they bring up a
point that he that Tucker made

2785
02:47:59,100 --> 02:48:04,710
that it shows that the no agenda
show is on a completely

2786
02:48:04,710 --> 02:48:11,100
different knowledge track.
Because what stuns these guys is

2787
02:48:11,100 --> 02:48:15,390
something that makes will make
you and I made me shake my head

2788
02:48:15,390 --> 02:48:21,240
as I thought everyone knew this.
But let's listen to set up is is

2789
02:48:21,240 --> 02:48:26,340
the value tainment guys on TC
and they this is the intro and

2790
02:48:26,340 --> 02:48:28,650
then part two is got to the
punch line. And then

2791
02:48:28,650 --> 02:48:30,000
Unknown: immediately afterwards.

2792
02:48:30,810 --> 02:48:32,790
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, okay,
yeah, I got him so I'm gonna try

2793
02:48:32,790 --> 02:48:33,690
to play in the right order. Here

2794
02:48:33,690 --> 02:48:35,730
Unknown: we go. And then
immediately after his first

2795
02:48:35,730 --> 02:48:38,970
episode, Fox News hosts Tucker
Carlson. He violated his

2796
02:48:38,970 --> 02:48:42,930
contract with new Twitter show
this is NBC News. Fox was

2797
02:48:42,930 --> 02:48:46,230
informed Tucker Carlson's lawyer
that he violated his contract

2798
02:48:46,230 --> 02:48:49,320
with the network by releasing
the first episode of his new

2799
02:48:49,320 --> 02:48:52,650
show on Twitter the breach of
contract stated in a letter from

2800
02:48:52,650 --> 02:48:55,920
Fox News General Counsel Brandon
Cougar, who will refer to

2801
02:48:55,920 --> 02:48:58,770
Carlson's contract signed in
November of 2019 and amended in

2802
02:48:58,770 --> 02:49:03,240
February of 2021 Carson's lawyer
Brian Friedman argued that any

2803
02:49:03,240 --> 02:49:06,570
legal action taken by Fox News
would infringe on Carlson's

2804
02:49:06,570 --> 02:49:09,480
first amendment rights.
Carlson's new show on Twitter,

2805
02:49:09,660 --> 02:49:14,040
titled episode one featured his
unfounded claim that Ukraine was

2806
02:49:14,040 --> 02:49:17,910
responsible for an attack on a
dam in Russia, Russian occupied

2807
02:49:17,910 --> 02:49:21,060
territory leading to devastating
floods, Ukrainian president

2808
02:49:21,060 --> 02:49:24,870
Solinsky and US officials have
accused Russia of the attack,

2809
02:49:25,140 --> 02:49:27,570
while Russia denies any
involvement. I mean, that's

2810
02:49:27,570 --> 02:49:30,810
pretty. And yesterday, he's out
there doing what he's doing

2811
02:49:30,810 --> 02:49:34,410
yesterday, if you watch what he
said yesterday, Twitter, a lot

2812
02:49:34,410 --> 02:49:36,780
of people on Twitter are going
back and forth saying well, what

2813
02:49:36,780 --> 02:49:39,690
is this guy saying? Is he trying
to say something? Because a part

2814
02:49:39,690 --> 02:49:40,470
of what he said?

2815
02:49:41,160 --> 02:49:43,590
Adam Curry: Yes, yes, we
discussed this right away. Yes.

2816
02:49:44,520 --> 02:49:49,770
John C Dvorak: So part of what
we said and on the new show. Now

2817
02:49:49,770 --> 02:49:53,550
listen to this. These guys are
incredulous about what Tucker

2818
02:49:53,550 --> 02:49:57,030
said. And when I heard this, I
said, Boy, I thought that was

2819
02:49:57,090 --> 02:50:00,000
general knowledge. I guess it
wasn't as you only know agenda

2820
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:00,540
stuff.

2821
02:50:01,260 --> 02:50:03,660
Unknown: Twitter a lot of people
on Twitter are going back and

2822
02:50:03,660 --> 02:50:06,210
forth saying what is this guy
saying is he trying to say

2823
02:50:06,210 --> 02:50:10,080
something? Because a part of
what he said in episode number

2824
02:50:10,080 --> 02:50:12,570
two I think 90 seconds into it
or two minutes into it he says

2825
02:50:12,900 --> 02:50:18,600
by 2008 No one questioned that
Brock Obama had a highly creepy

2826
02:50:18,630 --> 02:50:23,820
personal life watch what creepy
what highly creepy personal life

2827
02:50:23,850 --> 02:50:25,170
is he talking about but

2828
02:50:27,690 --> 02:50:29,670
Adam Curry: Larry Sinclair
anybody

2829
02:50:30,450 --> 02:50:34,050
John C Dvorak: the rise in a
limo with a male prostitutes

2830
02:50:34,080 --> 02:50:36,000
blow jobs left and right

2831
02:50:36,090 --> 02:50:39,510
Unknown: with the Coke was a
cocaine with coke cocaine

2832
02:50:39,780 --> 02:50:43,800
John C Dvorak: went on and on. I
mean, it was talked about it was

2833
02:50:43,830 --> 02:50:46,710
it was all open source it was
material that was available

2834
02:50:46,710 --> 02:50:47,610
publicly.

2835
02:50:48,120 --> 02:50:51,900
Adam Curry: Well, this takes me
back to Episode 515 of this

2836
02:50:51,900 --> 02:50:55,890
podcast when Obama had something
to say about us right now

2837
02:50:55,920 --> 02:51:03,060
there's a podcast going on to
drains lunatics. Clearly, they

2838
02:51:03,060 --> 02:51:06,930
have brain disease. Now I'm not
gonna sit here and say that

2839
02:51:07,500 --> 02:51:09,660
everyone has brain disease, but
we can help them with

2840
02:51:09,900 --> 02:51:11,190
electroshock therapy.

2841
02:51:12,420 --> 02:51:14,790
John C Dvorak: Who also fix them
boys up good.

2842
02:51:15,420 --> 02:51:17,580
Adam Curry: I thought it was a
pretty decent Obama that I throw

2843
02:51:17,580 --> 02:51:18,150
out there.

2844
02:51:18,930 --> 02:51:21,810
John C Dvorak: It was one of
your better products

2845
02:51:24,960 --> 02:51:27,570
Adam Curry: these obese people
don't know about this stuff.

2846
02:51:28,620 --> 02:51:33,360
John C Dvorak: I was I was taken
aback. Oh, like what are you

2847
02:51:33,360 --> 02:51:36,900
talking about? You guys are
nuts. This is example eight no

2848
02:51:36,900 --> 02:51:39,450
agenda listeners, especially the
ones who've been with us long

2849
02:51:39,450 --> 02:51:44,580
enough. Know all his stuff.
Buddy. Love whoever that guy

2850
02:51:44,580 --> 02:51:45,420
was. Oh,

2851
02:51:45,420 --> 02:51:52,110
Adam Curry: man, buddy. Love ya.
Oh, man. Yeah. Well, we're out.

2852
02:51:52,110 --> 02:51:56,850
Like, how about this? Why don't
we put the classic, the classic

2853
02:51:57,750 --> 02:52:02,370
Reverend Manning end of show
into the end of show sequence.

2854
02:52:02,370 --> 02:52:05,460
We have one about Larry and
Obama, if you remember. Yeah,

2855
02:52:05,460 --> 02:52:05,820
let's do

2856
02:52:05,820 --> 02:52:08,070
John C Dvorak: that. So here's,
here's

2857
02:52:09,660 --> 02:52:10,590
Adam Curry: your why not.

2858
02:52:11,610 --> 02:52:14,490
John C Dvorak: So here we go
with Alaska. This is again just

2859
02:52:14,490 --> 02:52:18,900
makes up for Foley's earlier
Gaff. And this is the class I

2860
02:52:18,900 --> 02:52:22,710
promised this before. This is
Kamala and this guest was on the

2861
02:52:22,710 --> 02:52:26,340
prompter. And she was reading
our from her memo and they had

2862
02:52:26,790 --> 02:52:30,930
they had to scratch it off
according to gut drilled. And

2863
02:52:31,350 --> 02:52:31,920
here we go.

2864
02:52:32,130 --> 02:52:36,750
Unknown: So the United States
shares a very important

2865
02:52:36,750 --> 02:52:39,810
relationship, which is an
alliance with the Republic of

2866
02:52:39,810 --> 02:52:44,730
North Korea. And it is an
alliance that is strong and

2867
02:52:44,730 --> 02:52:50,010
enduring. And today, there were
several demonstrations of just

2868
02:52:50,010 --> 02:52:50,310
that.

2869
02:52:50,910 --> 02:52:57,030
Adam Curry: Yeah, we're shooting
off missiles. During a live,

2870
02:52:58,020 --> 02:53:01,170
Korea, that's our boys right
there. North Korea, everybody.

2871
02:53:02,340 --> 02:53:06,450
Wonderful. Well, thank you all
very much for supporting episode

2872
02:53:06,450 --> 02:53:10,020
1563. Thank you for tuning in.
Thank you trolls for hanging out

2873
02:53:10,020 --> 02:53:13,350
with us in the troll room. We do
have a nice end of show makes a

2874
02:53:13,350 --> 02:53:18,540
little Trump themed thing here.
We got Leo, love puke. We got

2875
02:53:18,540 --> 02:53:22,230
Brian Longnecker. We got the
Reverend Manning and of course,

2876
02:53:22,920 --> 02:53:29,700
Rolando Gonzalez from Dallas,
who's got a nice little nice

2877
02:53:29,700 --> 02:53:34,470
little classical piano mix that
will calm you down. And if

2878
02:53:34,470 --> 02:53:37,860
you're listening on one of those
modern podcast apps, or at no

2879
02:53:37,860 --> 02:53:41,700
agenda stream.com or troll
room.io Stay tuned. Another live

2880
02:53:41,700 --> 02:53:44,940
show coming up right after this.
The Lotus effect with Phoenix

2881
02:53:44,970 --> 02:53:49,500
and phone boy. And oh boy, do
they have a doozy. They say

2882
02:53:51,510 --> 02:53:53,820
coming to you from the heart of
the Texas hill country here in

2883
02:53:53,820 --> 02:53:56,370
FEMA Region number six in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam

2884
02:53:56,370 --> 02:53:56,700
curry

2885
02:53:57,570 --> 02:54:00,060
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley. Where's our

2886
02:54:00,060 --> 02:54:02,610
Sunday? I'm John C. Devorah.

2887
02:54:02,640 --> 02:54:05,130
Adam Curry: We return on
Thursday with another doozy of a

2888
02:54:05,130 --> 02:54:07,560
deconstruction join us for that
and remember us at the

2889
02:54:07,560 --> 02:54:11,310
vorak.org/na Until then adios
mofos who we

2890
02:54:13,860 --> 02:54:19,770
Unknown: are. I'm talking about
dishwashers. I'm talking about

2891
02:54:19,770 --> 02:54:31,860
dishwashers, sinks, toilets,
sinks, toilets, and showers. You

2892
02:54:31,860 --> 02:54:35,670
don't get any water. Try going
and buying a new faucet. You

2893
02:54:35,670 --> 02:54:40,290
turn it on, no one comes. We
won't talk about toilets. But

2894
02:54:40,290 --> 02:54:43,350
how about the shower? I have
this beautiful head of hair I

2895
02:54:43,350 --> 02:54:49,620
need a lot of you turn on the
water drip, drip, drip. Drop.

2896
02:54:52,440 --> 02:54:54,480
This a very unpleasant
experience

2897
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:05,070
A situation where we're looking
very strongly at sinks and

2898
02:55:05,070 --> 02:55:11,550
showers. Other elements of
bathrooms we're talking about

2899
02:55:11,550 --> 02:55:16,620
dishwashers, sinks, toilets,
people flushing toilets 10 times

2900
02:55:16,620 --> 02:55:19,440
15 times more rain

2901
02:55:25,020 --> 02:55:27,600
Adam Curry: like crazy stupid

2902
02:55:40,050 --> 02:55:53,580
Unknown: motion artists always
talking about stupid month month

2903
02:55:53,970 --> 02:55:59,220
noise talking about like a punch
in the face, national disasters

2904
02:55:59,220 --> 02:56:02,940
embarrassment to this country.
It makes me so angry that this

2905
02:56:02,940 --> 02:56:06,630
country has gotten to this point
that this full disposal has

2906
02:56:06,630 --> 02:56:10,800
wound up where he has. He wants
to punch people in the face.

2907
02:56:10,890 --> 02:56:12,990
Well, I like to punch him in the
face.

2908
02:56:16,320 --> 02:56:19,710
Fell in love with Larry
Sinclair. They had a steamy

2909
02:56:19,710 --> 02:56:25,380
level thing. Obama and Larissa
had a theme in love of

2910
02:56:31,050 --> 02:56:40,230
love a man looked into the
Obama, the mack daddy put a

2911
02:56:40,230 --> 02:56:49,020
spell on Obama to mack daddy.
Oh, you're just my style and

2912
02:56:49,020 --> 02:56:54,960
mocap are you looking like just
what I want? My man woman

2913
02:56:56,460 --> 02:57:06,630
whatever to look like? Oh, yes.
Oh, yes. Obama had a steaming

2914
02:57:06,810 --> 02:57:15,000
love of bath in the back of a
limo. And then at the Holiday

2915
02:57:15,000 --> 02:57:21,480
Inn. They have a scene in London
All right, my friend. All right

2916
02:57:21,480 --> 02:57:21,990
chaos

2917
02:57:21,990 --> 02:57:24,090
over the nation's capital from
bad

2918
02:57:24,120 --> 02:57:27,360
to worse. We have third of the
country under historic air

2919
02:57:27,360 --> 02:57:28,410
quality alerts

2920
02:57:28,740 --> 02:57:30,630
smashed through the damn wall

2921
02:57:30,630 --> 02:57:33,540
the growing fears of an
environmental catastrophe

2922
02:57:33,540 --> 02:57:35,340
unfolding in Ukraine Iran

2923
02:57:35,340 --> 02:57:38,430
yesterday presented what
officials described as its first

2924
02:57:38,430 --> 02:57:41,670
domestically made hypersonic
ballistic missile hazardous air

2925
02:57:41,670 --> 02:57:46,200
quality big or small your use of
force somewhere I heard a really

2926
02:57:46,200 --> 02:57:48,060
loud metric the whole house

2927
02:57:48,090 --> 02:57:51,960
unhealthy air sending tolerance
of water surging towards the

2928
02:57:51,960 --> 02:57:53,580
southern city of have sun

2929
02:57:53,610 --> 02:57:57,060
cascading floodwaters are
threatening 1000s of people

2930
02:57:57,060 --> 02:57:57,990
hypersonic missiles

2931
02:57:57,990 --> 02:58:01,110
can fly at least five times
faster than the speed of sound.

2932
02:58:01,140 --> 02:58:04,770
At least 13 states have issued
air quality alerts as smoked

2933
02:58:04,800 --> 02:58:06,870
blocked the skyline in some
areas,

2934
02:58:07,140 --> 02:58:10,590
and wouldn't surprise me if
Taiwan was in the crosshairs. We

2935
02:58:10,590 --> 02:58:11,460
all thought it

2936
02:58:11,460 --> 02:58:14,610
was an earthquake in New York at
one point seeing the worst air

2937
02:58:14,610 --> 02:58:18,930
quality of any city on earth
once fertile agricultural ground

2938
02:58:18,930 --> 02:58:22,200
now a soggy wasteland sabotaged.
We can

2939
02:58:22,200 --> 02:58:26,400
see it to smell it when we felt
the flooding has forced

2940
02:58:26,400 --> 02:58:30,390
the evacuation of 1000s of
people take a look at these

2941
02:58:30,390 --> 02:58:32,220
stunning satellite photos go
into

2942
02:58:32,220 --> 02:58:36,330
your case should limit outdoor
activity to the greatest extent

2943
02:58:36,390 --> 02:58:37,080
possible

2944
02:58:37,110 --> 02:58:39,180
prepare for Worst case scenario.

2945
02:58:47,310 --> 02:58:51,480
mopho.org/in A

2946
02:58:51,930 --> 02:58:53,070
just so offensive

2947
02:58:53,100 --> 02:58:54,990
1,000,000,000%