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live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in number six
in the morning everybody. I'm Adam curry
John C Dvorak: playing from Northern Silicon Valley where
cherries are in season. I'm John C Dvorak.
Adam Curry: Oh, that's interesting. I just read that
the peaches are already here. And inseason go eat some peaches
and you know there's not that many peaches anymore.
Unfortunately. They and you know, they decided 15 years ago
today for they the powers that be Gillespie county they decided
now No, we'll just have we're gonna do wine no more peaches
get rid of that feature orchards wine
John C Dvorak: you guys get enough wine down there half of
his sucks
Adam Curry: well that's excuse me to half of it half of it
comes from California that's why it sucks.
John C Dvorak: Everybody have more than enough sucky wine even
the peaches be it was
Adam Curry: 15 years ago when they decided that that's what
this wasn't wine country 1520 years ago the only this is
recent. That's that's so I'm actually on your side but you
didn't have to get all up in my grill about our wind sucking.
You're banned. You're banned from the region
John C Dvorak: I'm surprised I'm not banned from the reason
you're banned from the radio. You're banned.
Adam Curry: So didn't that's
John C Dvorak: terrible. Their fruit trees are a great product.
Adam Curry: Yeah. What do we have we put comps and other one
another also less pecans. And floods. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: Texas.
Adam Curry: It no this area's specifically, I told you that we
have 290 wineries here. Some some crazy amount like that.
Huh? I know. I know. A lot of drunk bridesmaids.
John C Dvorak: Go bet.
Adam Curry: Speaking of I did the melody by the way,
John C Dvorak: most wine made in the United States suck. So don't
take it personally. Okay, that's all right.
Adam Curry: Megyn Kelly show yesterday? Well, yes, I would
had that go. Welcome. new listeners. It was good.
John C Dvorak: Both of you.
Adam Curry: You know, she blew off two ad breaks. That's how
that's how engaged she was in the conversation. And what what
came out of it? Oh, we just went through every she started,
right, man. She has spun up. We're winning. We're winning
with target and but like, whoa, Meghan, calm down, calm down.
It's you know, we don't all win that way.
John C Dvorak: It's no winning. Yeah, that's
Adam Curry: right. It was kind of interesting. Because right
off the bat, she started with that, and I gave her kind of the
no agenda wrap. She went? Well, that's interesting. I don't
agree. And then I think within what
John C Dvorak: what did she agree with?
Adam Curry: Oh, well, what I was saying was, you know, we only
really when if we get rid of the true problem, which is Big
Pharma, who was doing this to the kids. And if we get rid of,
you know, the ESG, the the money that is forcing these companies
into this. And then after 10 minutes, she was kind of
agreeing. So that was it was interesting. You know, there's
one thing that really bugged me, and I noticed as well, I think
the last time I did the show was two years ago, there's the they
use this zoom product, which is specifically for television
shows, and I guess, obviously, for this podcast, and they have
a whole system. So if you just use your regular zoom app on
your computer, and and you call in and then you're in the green
room, they can bounce you to some other room and you talk to
the producer, and they put you in the live on air room. I mean,
so they can they're switching stuff around from room to room,
which is cool. But the minute you go alive, you see one box
it's Megan, you know that whatever the On Air signal is
and it's it's a it's a two shot most of the time, and the audio
is out of sync with the video. So the whole as a whole time
you're just you're you're what and then your your own mouth is
delayed. It's very it's very difficult I find to concentrate.
John C Dvorak: So that's like somebody with an IFBB yelling in
your ear for hearing yourself back two seconds later gets
really stuck
Adam Curry: in it. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so that was that
was I was two hours. So I got a lot of no agenda stuff in there.
Even the value for value that we're using. Just I think we do
every every time should we introduce me? No agenda Show
podcast. Good. Yeah. And I told her at the end you know, you're
gonna get a note from our lawyers. Okay, maybe maybe I
didn't say but I call I call About Kara Swisher that was a
great moment for me. You know, because she was all about, you
know, the lesbians and gays that out in this community. I said
yes, you're so right Megan. And let's call out the biggest
perpetrator, Kara Swisher and I am What was your What was your
reaction to that? She said, You know, we used to be bugged. We
used to text but not anymore. And I said No, certainly not
after this. She agreed with me. She said Young lesbians and gays
have to be against this grooming stuff.
John C Dvorak: But they don't they still haven't. It hasn't
dawned on them that their SIS, and their enemies are trans
Adam Curry: and they're going they're going to be on the wrong
side of history. Yeah, exactly.
Unknown: Exactly.
Adam Curry: So I think it was good. I got a lot of positive
responses. So I think that's good in general. We'll see. So
welcome to review. Welcome to the show. And we might as well
right away congratulate Ashlynn speed for her win. In the no no
agenda car.
John C Dvorak: mean it Yeah, the SCCA she won a regional I think
the
Adam Curry: boss Yes, championship. Yes, you have
enough shows enough points to win the Southern Conference
Championship. Yeah, it's so cool to see our logo. I love that.
You know, it cost sponsors, millions of dollars to get your
logo on something like that on the car. This is not, you know,
Formula One or Indy, but still. So she'll be racing MX five or
USF formula for depending on opportunities and funding. We're
very proud, very proud of her.
John C Dvorak: Well, she should get funding because the good
female racers are rare in the professional arena, and they're
a great marketing opportunity. It's a super marketing
opportunity. Exactly. Super.
Adam Curry: It's super, super. Oh, and so. Oh, man, I said I
caught myself on Megyn Kelly and I said 100%. And I caught you
actually said and I said oh stop. Oh no, I can't believe I
did. And she's like, what what happened? What happened? I said
100 He gave me a copy of that. I said 100% She said What's wrong
with that? says what Kara Swisher always says that's my
hate. Listen. And then she said it later said you said 100%.
Just why do I hate that again? It was bad. It was very bad. A
Tina was in the other room. She heard me go by retract that she
thought I really screwed something up to No, it's just I
said 100%. It happens. Anyway, we have a deal. The sky's the
limit. Sky's the limit. Everybody. If I understand
correctly, they resolve the debt deal dilemma by making it open
ended. There's no limit until 2025. So they can essentially
thank spend whatever they want. That's one interpretation. Well,
that's that's the that's the common interpretation. I read.
Do you have a different interpretation?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it depends on who you talk to. Everybody
came out with their own interpretation. Yeah. I don't
have a counter interpretation. But the Republicans had one
interpretation. Various Republicans had one
interpretation. Various Democrats had another
interpretation. What is vorak interpretation? I do have i My
interpretation is I don't know. I haven't read it. I can't do
you ever? Depends on how dishonest the President is going
to be? Oh, okay. Well, do you have any I do have one little
clip this is the house does a classic. One group of Democrats
would say something like this and this is a little short 10
second clip of a house floor Democrat making a commentary on
the budget
Unknown: rather than making the wealthiest pay their fair share.
Extremely Republicans wanted to balance the budget on Americans
growling hungry stomach.
Adam Curry: balanced the budget on the Americans growling
America hungry stomach.
John C Dvorak: Growling hungry stomach. Wow.
Adam Curry: Well, from what I read, the debt ceiling has been
rumored to not be raised by any specific amount. And that is
kind of the opposite of what they what they were supposed to
do. I think again, logic is they haven't been able to read this.
I thought they voted on something.
John C Dvorak: What is it what they voted on and how you can
read it and interprets? interpretable that's the
problem. Okay. I did
Adam Curry: that they have this um, new shield who came out and
talked about the student debt. I haven't seen this woman before.
He or she is
Unknown: Supreme Court will opine on the President's action
AXA to forgive 10,000 in student debt and 20,000 for those who
pay grant. But in this bill, even though House Republicans
Bill sought to do away with that we saved it in this bill. So
there's nothing on that in this bill. We also protected the
income driven repayment rule, which, if anyone who's had
student loans knows, it was not, it did not work as intended. And
this rule is intended to really tie payments to true income this
bill does in the payment, pause, but very close to the timeframe
we were going to end it as an administration when it comes to
repayment.
Adam Curry: I'm not quite sure what she said there because it
confused me at the end, but like the up talk, it sounds like
you're all gonna have to pay back your loans is what it
sounds like to me. Which is a campaign promise broken?
John C Dvorak: Was a sucker's promise.
Adam Curry: Yeah, everyone, anyone
John C Dvorak: who believed any of this nonsense is good had a
screw loose. They were they were suckered and they're gonna get
suckered again, you watch? Yep. Is gonna read promise it.
Adam Curry: Now you said on I don't know if it's the last show
that the 87,000 IRS agents was off the books that was not going
to happen.
John C Dvorak: That was one of the things that McCarthy claims
and it's true.
Adam Curry: It will not be 87,000 new IRS agency it will be
85,260.
John C Dvorak: Well, at least they knocked it back. It did
Adam Curry: not. You know, you can't even I don't know what
these IRS agents are going to do. If you want accountant or if
you want people who understand accounting, and taxation and
taxes. You can't find more than 8500. If that in the country in
the world, maybe even the world. accounting firms have been
desperate, desperate for people who can do this. It's not even
there. So I don't know what you're going to hire. This is
good union paying jobs, I guess. Nice this visit odd, odd, odd,
John C Dvorak: odd, and they gotta fix our coal butts Balt
computers.
Adam Curry: Oh my god, I got an email from one of our producers
gave me an update on because I always say your airline system
still runs on cobalt. Here's the skinny airlines systems are some
of the earliest systems written with COBOL. They pioneered
online systems at a time when batch programming was the norm
on mainframes. The airline systems use COBOL now for
accounting only. Reservations weight and balance seating and
ticketing were written in IBM assembly language with the
exception of fair quote, which is generally written in PL one
which is similar to Pascal. Eastern Airlines license it's
fair quote system in PL one to most of the airlines is still
out there. Code was widely licensed between the airlines,
the operating system is T P F, stop me if you've heard of any
of this transaction processing facility have originally called
ACP airline control program. Well, I've heard a PL one but
this I haven't heard Yeah. Which is an interrupt based OS it does
does not time slice but shifts tasks in the kernel based on IO
and CPU interrupts I'm so I'm so excited. Now to read this. I'm
getting moist. No faster OS has ever come along. They can turn
around transactions faster. Each mainframe iteration just gets
faster with so much assembly language code in the codebase.
Yeah, I believe that. And then here's the kicker in 1990,
airlines start outsourcing code to India with disastrous
results. Surprise, surprise, go figure C++ libraries have been
introduced into the TPF operating system by Ibn and
newer code is being written in C Plus Plus, it never supported
COBOL at all. I worked for 15 years in the fields as our our
producer, most of it for the airlines.
John C Dvorak: Doesn't mean you can't keep saying that.
Adam Curry: Oh, well, of course. But I just want to make sure we
have the right information out there. Okay, speaking of money,
and economies Erawan won the runoff election day in Turkey.
And everyone's all excited because of course, he's going to
fix everything. Right?
Unknown: Yeah, who's that wants to bring you back in there?
Because Bastian says something interesting, this idea that
voters or those who voted for Urdu might have an appetite for
change. Will that be strong enough to why he changes to
trigger any changes within
what you mean by change? I think a lot of focus in the coming
days and weeks and months will be about solely about the
economy. You know, this is the first time just speaking about
economy. This is the first time since 2002. Turkish currency
reserves are on minus just one side of the how to how bad
things are. And also the inflation is skyrocket. Since
according to an official expert views 120 is 130% inflation and
there's no money and from tomorrow on our Diwan, I think
we'll try to, you know, explore where we can get money from for
the Turkey Turkish economy and that will be the issue. So
change in terms of what his supporters would expect. I'm not
sure what what, what one means by that. I think fatalistic as
main bulk of the supporters are, they would basically expect the
leader to bring back Turkey to the good old good old days of
the maybe 10 years ago, when the per capita income was about
$12,000. Now it's $6,000. And purchase power will be brought
back but it's a steep uphill battle.
Adam Curry: Yeah, the screen those guys, they give that guy
the hook. It's all France 24. And our, our local report was
much better. She wrote it, it was it was literally like 18
seconds. Yeah, here we go. ABC are
Unknown: the one regime will continue. Turkey's longtime
president has won his run off against a center left
challenger, or the one picked up 52% of the vote. Leaders of
Hungary and Qatar were the first to congratulate him. President
Biden tweeted he looks forward to working with our Diwan as
NATO allies. Yeah, sure.
John C Dvorak: Well, I can't see him helping the country any
further with his no his policies.
Adam Curry: Now? What are they going to do? I really don't see
any, any anything working for them. Says doesn't matter,
though. It's
John C Dvorak: a good question. Yeah.
Adam Curry: So so everything seems to be I mean, if you want
to talk about Russia and Ukraine, things seem to be
heating up as it appears that I think we kind of have our new
offensive. It's just all this drone warfare now. And not not
like Good. Here. Let me see. This is NBC.
Unknown: In Ukraine officials. They're accusing Russia of
unleashing the biggest drone attack against caves since the
war began. Just hours before the city's annual celebration of its
founding. Molly Hunter has more on the ground there. Mali a
dangerous night, but
also it shows how much the war has changed. Yeah, Kate, that's
right. Look in the capital city, the air defenses are working,
but it can still be overnight that airway to alert lasts.
John C Dvorak: Way too many. You gotta go back in.
Adam Curry: That was good. That's true. That's right.
That's right. Look, hey,
Unknown: Molly Hunter has more on the ground there. Mali a
dangerous night, but also it shows how much the war has
changed.
Yeah, Kate. That's right. Look in the capital. Oh, man.
Adam Curry: I use this for everything. That's right. Look.
That's right. Look, that's right. looks right. Look, it's a
new thing. That's right. Look, everybody.
Unknown: Yeah, Kate. That's right. Look in the capital city
the air defenses are working but it can still be dangerous. Now
overnight, that airway alert lasted for about five hours,
much longer than normal. But Ukrainian officials are saying
that the Air Force almost every single
Adam Curry: listen to that effect they throw in there in
the background beautiful head drop
Unknown: more than 50 fired at once at Kyiv and across the
country. Now when interceptions happen and we actually hear
those explosions, fragments or debris fall to the ground now
here in cube officials say at least one person was killed. One
person was injured and several fires broke out around the city.
Now the Ukrainian military says Russia is ramping up those
aerial attacks to identify and exhaust air defenses. They also
say they are targeting military assets and critical
infrastructure. But Kate civilians are still paying the
price.
John C Dvorak: They're paying nothing close to the firebombing
of Dresden. Well, here
Unknown: we go. Tonight in Moscow President Putin vowing to
retaliate for what he said was the Ukrainian drone attack. The
attack Putin said on TV was aimed at scaring Russian
citizens and hitting residential buildings in video verified by
NBC News, a drone seen flying low over the Capitol. The
Russian Ministry of Defense says they shot down eight drones. NBC
News cannot independently verify that information. The ministry
says two people were injured and several buildings damaged and
Moscow is pointing the finger directly at Keith. But tonight
an adviser to President Solinsky tells NBC News. Ukraine is not
directly involved in the attacks in Moscow here in the Russian
areas apartment has been unrelenting. At least one person
has been killed several injured just in the last 24 hours. Early
this morning. The Ukrainian Air Force says it shut down nearly
30 Russian drums.
Bala joins us now Molly
from your reporting. It feels like we're at a new inflection
point with this war
and you're seeing it on the streets of Kyiv
Yeah, Tom That's exactly right. It feels really different here.
The last few days have been terrifying and we have seen
residents of cube by the time As the 1000s seek shelter in the
subways. Those are scenes we haven't seen in months.
Adam Curry: I don't even think she's there. I don't believe
she's there. She
John C Dvorak: just this whole reporting I got I got a clip of
this. I think it was from NPR, Ukraine, another 300 million go
into them.
Adam Curry: Yeah, they snuck that in, didn't they?
Unknown: The US has committed more than $37.6 billion in
security assistance to Ukraine since Russia's invasion in
February 2020. To
John C Dvorak: play do play the Ukraine suppose a grand total
clip which was the kicker. Second,
Adam Curry: oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean that. My mistake.
Here we go
Unknown: in in a city east of the annex territory of Crimea, a
drone crash said a Russian oil refinery on fire, but it was
immediately put out inside Ukraine's border, the Russian
controlled region Luhansk was also shelled, resulting in five
deaths and 19 wounded. This all occurred just one day after a
drone struck Moscow for which Russia blamed Ukraine. Kyiv, on
the other hand, denies the accusation, but said that it's
good to watch. drone attacks deep inside Russia have
intensified in recent weeks, with strikes on Moscow oil
pipelines, and even the Kremlin ahead of an expected Ukrainian
counter offense. Washington on Wednesday said that the US
doesn't support Ukraine attacking within Russia's
border, but promised to provide more weapons to Ukraine.
In response, the United States is going to continue to support
Ukraine help give them things that they need to better defend
themselves as part of all that effort. We've got an upcoming
package here, which will be the 39th drawdown of equipment from
the Department of Defense inventories using presidential
drawdown authorities.
The military package is valued at $300 million. And it includes
artillery, anti armor capabilities and ammunition. And
then I'll play your kicker I'm sorry, the US has committed more
than $37.6 billion in security assistance to Ukraine since
Russia's invasion in February 2022.
Adam Curry: I thought it was more than that.
John C Dvorak: I thought everyone's this number is
floating around. They just keep saying they usually round it up
to 38 billion. Yeah, I thought it was in the 40s.
Adam Curry: I thought Yeah, I thought it was higher too.
John C Dvorak: So is the number for some reason that gone to
this number. Maybe because the Summary Calculation or you know,
they keep finding money. They've re who knows, still a lot of
money considering that woman sits on the House floor talking
about starving babies.
Adam Curry: In Denmark four weeks ago, the finance minister
was asked by journalists, if it would be a good idea to do a
complete review of the Treasury, verifying whether the state of
affairs or indeed as they say, so needed to cancel this
holiday, which is their store beta doc, the great prayer day,
which has been cancelled since it was onsens 1686. But they
cancelled it. And somehow, let me say there was no need to
since the house is in order. And what that meant was surprise. A
week ago, they found 16 billion kronor, $2.3 billion, somewhere
in their books, which of course they're going to use to send to
Ukraine. How about that? Denmark?
John C Dvorak: So wait a minute, so I didn't did this? I did not
know. So Denmark, canceled one of their holidays. It goes back
to the 1600s. You can send money to Ukraine. Basically. That's
what
Adam Curry: that's that's kind of how it comes across. Yeah, I
don't know if the 3 billion is equal to what they spent on that
holiday. But the calendar had to be canceled no matter what to
get their books in order. And then they had to point in like
$2.3 billion to send to Ukraine. That is
John C Dvorak: a holiday cost money. Shouldn't it be something
that saves money? You don't have to pay the government workers
that day or I guess they get paid. But some for the most
part, things get come to a standstill don't cost anything.
Adam Curry: They're Danish man. I don't know the happiest
country on earth. I don't know.
John C Dvorak: I think that's been bumped. By the way I think
the Finns are now if you've ever been to Finland, you have to
roll your eyes thinking about that one.
Adam Curry: Update from our boots on the ground, the New
Jersey National Guard deployment to Ukraine, which we've been
following. So this is National Guard this like, wait a minute,
remember, we've been following this? Yes, yes. Well, here's the
update. The timetable kept getting moved around, but they
were finally deployed last week. They hadn't even left the US
when the plane suffered engine failure and one engine were
forced to land. Thankfully, they were able to make it to an
airbase in New Hampshire and ended up stranded there for two
days while repairs were undertaken. Last I heard they
were able to complete the trip successfully. We're just not
sure how long the deployment is going to be. As two weeks up to
a year is now being thrown around. They're still being told
our New Jersey National Guard is still being told that following
this rotation, they're headed to Mexico next not to the border,
but to fight the cartels. This is new things.
John C Dvorak: What are we doing sending troops to Ukraine,
Adam Curry: especially National Guard troops national Hello
national national.
John C Dvorak: That's question number one do that needs
answering. And question number two is I thought the Mexicans
already said no to this idea that we're sending our troops,
our national guards to Mexico to fight crime. Well, this has been
that that was vetoed by by Obrador. This is this is
Adam Curry: boots on the ground, the stuff that we hear directly
from the mouths of babes. I thought this was an interesting
report from France 24 In Ukraine, gives us a little bit
of an idea about the drones that Russia is using. It's apparently
Unknown: the third attack in 24 hours because it started
slightly earlier last night, than the previous night, the
night from Sunday to Monday, around 20 showerheads drones,
these Iranian made drones is what the Ukrainians are saying
were used, I could certainly hear them. That's actually the
first time that I personally have heard the sound of these
drones, which they're always described as flying mopeds by
the Ukrainians and in a way long been wondering what exactly that
sounds like. Now, I know. Well, we could mainly here was the
sound of the explosions of the Ukrainian air defense systems
shooting these drones down. They did shoot most if not all of
them down. We're waiting for confirmation. But this time,
there was rather more damage than usual,
Adam Curry: flying mopeds. What kind of warfare is this?
John C Dvorak: You know, I think the V one bomber had more
effectiveness in these things like quad copters. Dynamite
stick, moped
Adam Curry: really, and but it's interesting, because Zelinsky
came out and said something, which I think is highly
inflammatory, and kind of makes sense from his war mongering
perspective.
Unknown: But it's the drones that the Ukrainians are focusing
on because it's increasingly to the drones that the Russians
have been focusing. President Solinsky made an appeal to the
Iranians last week when he said, What is the benefit to Iran of
such cynical killing by Russian hands, but with your weapons,
your showerheads mean, only that the people of Iran are being
driven deeper into the dark side of history to which the Iranians
said that Zelensky was putting on a political show, and that
His claims were empty. He responded to that by putting
this bill to the governor, rather, the Ukrainian
Parliament, which was passed, which imposes sanctions for the
next 50 years on Iran. So that will involve no transit, for you
Iranian goods through Iran, or through or through Ukraine, or
through its airspace, sanctions on trade, tech, finance, the ban
on Ukrainian investment on it on Iran, and the balance transfer
of military and dual purpose goods.
Adam Curry: So what he's saying is, hey, you may not be doing
it, but you're using Iranian or your your technology, your the
Russians are using your tech, not your moped technology, this
high end stuff. So conversely, Russia could say, well, you
know, America, since they're using your stuff, you know what
I mean?
John C Dvorak: I'm surprised they haven't done that already.
Yeah, by the way, so you can go to Iranian drones on Google and
and hit images. And you can see the variety is actually a
variety of drones. You can't tell which ones they're actually
using. But these all look like they're derived remember back
this is about 10 years ago. It was during the Iraqi war during
something the the Iranians had captured in American predator
one of these drones, can you remember this? And they were
showing it off and we're demanding it back and they had
the thing was intact, and it was on a landing strip. Yeah, so
they've taken the Iranians This is a decade or more ago, has
stolen one of our drones some time back, and are now making
kind of crude copies of it. And that's the drones they're using
and they said for the all the surveillance gear, they just
load them up with some with some explosives and send them on
their way.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I do. But I thought that was a big drone
though.
John C Dvorak: It was it was a big giant predator. But I think
they've downsized it because the ones that they run is these are
bigger than you think that going looking at the Google page of
images. A lot of them are fairly big but they're not the size of
the predator at things huge. These are the ones that launch
off a little thing often get no they have a truck there's a
picture in the photos. Yeah, I see is a truck that holds about
five or six of them and then they shoot them off. The future
of war
Adam Curry: I think we should bring back. Bring back our game
show.
John C Dvorak: Win, lose your drone, lose or
Adam Curry: win, lose or draw and we'll do it today or will it
be something bigger? Who knows less we got contestants now on
our game show win lose or drone. Drone. God, I feel good doing
that. That's about all they got going for him. I got Sam
Bennett, he's from the center of for naval analyses on the
defense and aerospace podcast. And he says, you know, all this
stuff we're sending over there, it's no good, it's not going to
work F 16. Is that not useful
Unknown: to the F 16. I don't think they're going to make a
substantial difference. They're not going to tip the balance of
power, the war. I mean, come on, you know, Russian air defenses
are relatively intact, the US doesn't send F 16 in the air to
air or ground attack missions without a whole suite of
surveillance, electronic warfare, you know, command and
control networks to make sure that they can ingress and egress
and perform their mission without getting shot down. I
also think there's been a perennial Western bias to
thinking that oh, this one little piece of technology is a
silver bullet that will solve the war. And it's it's not so I
get the symbolism with Epstein's. It's important symbol
for Ukraine and another threshold that's being crossed
in the form of aid that's being provided in that country. But
it's going to take a while, you know, it's going to take a while
and I don't see these these platforms as having a decisive
impact on the war.
Adam Curry: There you go. According today in one of three
the reason why we send National Guard troops is you don't need
congressional approval for that. That makes sense. I mean, not
really, but I guess legally, it makes sense somehow.
John C Dvorak: That's good, screwed ever setting New Jersey
National Guard troops? Yeah. Yeah.
Adam Curry: CNN report as things are starting to ratchet up.
Unknown: We're also hearing interestingly, from Belarusian
President Lukashenko, who is now offering nuclear weapons, to any
nation's who wants to join who wants to support Russia,
Belarus, it's not clear to me that he actually has any nuclear
weapons to offer here, Sam?
No, he doesn't. But what he does have and has done is allow or
offer the opportunity for Russia to put what they're calling
tactical nuclear weapons, in other words, short range,
relatively low load nuclear weapons there as part of the
ongoing effort to kind of waived the threat of nuclear
catastrophe, not just Ukraine, but the international community
but this is consistent with Lukashenko is courting, shall we
call it of the Kremlin? That CNN?
Adam Curry: Yeah, go ahead.
John C Dvorak: I think he meant low yield.
Adam Curry: I think low load is funnier though.
Unknown: low load,
Adam Curry: low, low, low, low load, ma'am. CNN is all in on
the nuke tip though. This report from Erin Burnett. Burnett out
front. This was a real head scratcher.
Unknown: Vladimir Putin's top propagandist is now saying I'd
Adam Curry: love that. So is there a title in the Kremlin?
Hello, you go are you on now? Top propagandist. It may be just
That's not news reporting. Erin Burnett,
Unknown: Vladimir Putin ZZ Top propagandist is now saying that
nuclear weapons should be used to destroy Elon Musk's Starlink
satellites, which is the crucial technology that Ukraine
John C Dvorak: knows that we're gonna destroy a bomb and
hopefully they
Adam Curry: know it's a two parter. This is real. So
apparently, I'll give you the short version here. The Ukraine
is using Elon Musk's Starlink technology I think it's called
defense link their military version of it because we know
YouVersion Elon is a defense contractor. And they use that to
target to target Russian toward you know, to get the drones on
target. I don't know why you'd use Starlink for that doesn't
seem like completely appropriate but maybe the defense Link has
some better stuff but listen how they do it leave
Unknown: to to use to launch drone strikes.
Is this the photo? I think it's time to turn up the heat. We
understand that all drones and everything else works for
Americans only while Starlink exists. If we carefully launch
our nukes into space, there will be no
John C Dvorak: basis the top propagandists who are listening
to this is the guy Igor Igor A.
Adam Curry: We carefully launch our nukes into Starling
satellites Hey man, my internet
Unknown: launch On strikes
I think it's time to turn up the heat. We understand that all
drones and everything else works for Americans only while
Starlink exists. So if we carefully launch our nukes into
space, then there will be no Starlink left. Yeah.
Ukraine's not claiming responsibility for these attacks
inside Russia. But if Kyiv gets blamed, that's just fine.
There's more to come. I've and I've said that it's a one on one
over trade there.
The number of incidents is constantly increasing, not only
in the border areas, but also in the depths of Russia. It's
already happening when you receive the scale of the
exponential.
Here an oil refinery in Russia's far south is set a flame while
along Ukraine's northern border with its invader. civilian areas
are hit by shelling apartments riddled with shrapnel,
commonplace in Ukraine, a new experience for Russians.
Adam Curry: This is a weird report. They went from blowing
up Starling to what's happening in Russia and then it continues
here.
Unknown: Ukraine's new strategy is taking shape. inside Russia,
bomb them, bomb them.
Drone and artillery attacks have hit Russian targets in an arc
along its Ukrainian border provinces of briansk. Kursk
Belgorod, Berganza and Kresna door and Moscow has not been
spared either on the deck of a Royal Navy warship. And as the
Ukrainian ally the United Kingdom gave a green light to
attack Russia. legitimate military targets beyond its own
border are part of Ukraine's self defense. And we should
recognize we should recognize that in response former Russian
way in close
John C Dvorak: that that was interpreted as giving the go
ahead to attack Russia.
Adam Curry: It sounded like it played again, military targets
go back a little bit further
Unknown: cranium ally the United Kingdom geikie The green light
to attack Russia.
Adam Curry: So since when does the UK get to give anybody a
green light? Are they are they the boss of every everything now
it's our stuff. It's our New Jersey Boys. Their legitimate
military targets beyond its own border are part of Ukraine's
self defense. And we should recognize we should recognize
that
Unknown: in response former Russian president and close
Putin ally, Dmitry Medvedev claimed on Twitter that as the
UK is in an undeclared war against Russia, any British
official could be considered as a legitimate military target.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, baby, let's get some drones over to Brett's
dead London and make him remind him of the V one rocket. Now,
Busby escalation,
Unknown: even Vladimir Putin might resist. Aaron, you
mentioned the use of nuclear weapons against a Starlink
satellites there that would be I think, technically impossible. I
have to say also, locally, they're not you Oh, like
John C Dvorak: why would you? Okay, so the whole report starts
off based on a new even introduced as such, the idea of
using nukes against Starlink. And at the very end of the
report, it says is technically impossible, then why are you
reporting it?
Adam Curry: Well, it sounds cool. By the way, it's Star
Shield is the military version, Star Shield, shield Star Shield.
And because this is all this is propaganda, Erin Burnett is the
top propagandist for the United States.
Unknown: Tell Aaron, you mentioned the use of nuclear
weapons against a starling satellites there that would be I
think, technically impossible. I have to say also, locally,
they're not used by drone, certainly not drones that could
strike as deep into Russia, as Moscow. But this I think, should
be seen what we're seeing in Russia as a completely new phase
of the Ukrainian strategy. This could be effectively what we've
all been talking about, which is the beginning of their counter
offensive. They're launching it and they're launching it in
Russia.
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. This is it then. So our counter offensive
includes mythical Star Shield. And this is what we this is what
Victoria Nuland came up with some hokey drones. Man,
John C Dvorak: SpaceX, loose, loose making the drones that are
dead or hit in Moscow. We know that Iranians are making all
these drones. I think I knew this. I read about who's making
the other drones. Do they have a stick of dynamite in them or
what how much power do they have?
Adam Curry: I don't know. SpaceX designs launches and builds and
launches customized military satellites based on variant of
the star six Starling satellite bus with the largest publicly
known customer base In the space of the Space Development Agency
hmm I wonder what it does this thing No No wonder we're getting
less bandwidth. He's using it for the drones that's an outrage
so if this is the long rumored offensive, which initially was
the spring offensive now it's just the offensive Yeah.
John C Dvorak: They dropped it Oh, yeah, let's don't get
carried away the offensive now
Adam Curry: we still have to do something with the Wagner group.
They're very irritating. They're they're still hanging out there.
So let's Richard angle are favored over NBC, spook central
Richard angle. He's going to tell us what to do with the
Wagner group.
Unknown: The Central African Republic is a failed state in
the capital, Bungie, they are victims of Africa's resource
curse. The people are poor, despite living on land with
vast, untapped wealth. Here, it's golden diamonds. But
instead of lifting people out of poverty, the riches flow into
the hands of Russian mercenaries from the Wagner group.
Adam Curry: So now all of a sudden, they're Russian
mercenaries. And sometimes they're a paid military group.
It's like they're all over the map with this now it's Russian
mercenaries. The Wagner group,
Unknown: Russia's private army,
Adam Curry: right? Oh, private army. Spies private army. What
do I tuck into the
Unknown: hands of Russian mercenaries from the Wagner
group. Russia's private army great edit in Ukraine. Wagner
fights for the Kremlin. It makes its money. According to two
Western diplomats in Bungie, Wagner was extracting a half of
billion dollars a year in gold, rare timber, and blood diamonds.
The Independent Research Group century provided NBC News with
more than a dozen witness accounts of violence by Wagner
forces near the indocin a gold mine and other mine sites.
Adam Curry: I've never heard what is this group? Have you
ever heard of this group, some group that gave them the info
here.
Unknown: The Independent Research Group century, century
century century century number provided NBC News with more than
a dozen witness accounts of violence by Wagner forces near
the indocin a goldmine, and other mind sites. Wagner was
invited into the Central African Republic by the government to
help crush a rebellion. And it worked. The Capitol is now far
more secure. There's a statue honoring Wagner on bunkies main
boulevard.
Adam Curry: I can't find this
John C Dvorak: hot dog guy's got his statue in the Capitol.
Adam Curry: shouted Why don't you look up that statute we
played the second part of this report.
Unknown: The group even provides the personal security for the
President. Oh, you've said quite famously that if your house is
on fire, you don't care what color the water is. So I
understand why you reached out you you accepted Russian help.
Are you happy with it would be a visit to see you journalists are
here that you should ask this question to the Central African
people. They will answer you, but I am here to make sure that
this population is protected. The government depends on Wagner
for its survival. Faulkner pays itself in gold. The people are
left starving. We reached out to promotion he responded with a
voice note calling our questions provocative and saying in part
quote, you've received enough information. If by asking these
questions you intended just to spit at me, then I suggest you
come closer. And after that, try to figure out if it's your
throat and my hands or someone else's
Adam Curry: fighting words. Okay, so this is this was
erected February 23 2022. I have a picture a woman lays flowers
at the base of a monument to Central African soldiers and
Russian armed men in Bangui. So this the hot dog guy is not a
part of this. They it's Russian, Russian armed men. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: I'm looking at it now.
Adam Curry: It says no hot dog guy here. This is bull crap. And
why was
John C Dvorak: Richard Engel report for a month? And you
think it's bull crap.
Adam Curry: But why why why this is? I mean, I don't understand
why they're joke is a
John C Dvorak: message. Okay. Wonderful would be messaging on
behalf of the Central Intelligence Agency. Yes, of
course. So what are they trying to tell us? That somebody's
stealing the gold from Central Africa or
Adam Curry: maybe he's telling us we need to move down to
Central Africa because they're killing people down there. Much
more important than a couple of drones and cube.
John C Dvorak: How about that? Baby?
Adam Curry: That would be a good message. We know all the Guns
are going there. Sky News has their own version of a report
here. This guy's straight up Monty Python Professor Michael
Clark tell us
Unknown: obviously concerns about the separation nuclear
power prom. But in the meantime, there's plenty of other things
going on out there, including an apparent drone attack inside
Russia again.
Yes, Anna the tempo of events is increasing all the time. So
overnight, it looks as if there was a drone attack or Krasnodar
the Russians are saying anything was a drone, I'm pretty sure it
probably was. It hasn't been illuminated. The biggest fire
you've ever seen. It's a refinery for a lot of them. But
it's a huge set of refineries. But nevertheless, it makes the
point. And interestingly, Krasnodar is not so far from
Novorossiysk. And that is where the all the oil exports go from
Russia into the for the Black Sea, and for ports in the
Mediterranean and further afield. So it's really important
port, and also never resist, the Russians have now got most of
the Black Sea Fleet Base there, because it was too dangerous to
leave them or Sebastopol, which is on that sort of southwestern
tip of Crimea. So they've moved most of the fleet to Nova risk.
So this is becoming a very important port in the heart of
Russia, and even to hit, you know, few miles away, the
refineries is picking away at Russia's infrastructure. And
it's making the point of the Russians at the very least, even
though this is, as I say, it's not a major fight. It was put
out pretty quickly, but it makes the Russians back to defend
these facilities for the future.
Adam Curry: I think these guys are doing it all wrong. Firstly,
sure. Wait, hold
John C Dvorak: on. Firstly, starts off I distinctly because
I knew was a small fire. Yeah, he says it's the biggest fire
you've ever seen.
Adam Curry: But then, you know, you know, this is it's all
John C Dvorak: wag the dog was totally wagging the dog. At this
point. We're getting no information, no real
information. We're just getting various propagandistic reports
that are fed. And then this this, this switcheroo here,
which is going to have to call it about the Central African
Republic. Yeah. And so to get this and angled down there,
that's a message because some guys are taking some gold out of
a mine because it needs to get paid.
Adam Curry: I mean, half a billion dollars, we send that to
Ukraine overnight, with FedEx for half a billion dollars.
Whoo. That's not a big deal. But I think the message was, you
know, the dying hungry children of Central Africa. These guys
are horrible hot dog, man. And I don't understand because the
solution is so clear. It's if you want to get rid of Russia,
it's so easy. Just give him Chad GPT.
Unknown: Tonight, a stark warning that artificial
intelligence could lead to the extinction of humanity. It comes
to dozens of industry leaders, including the CEO of Chad GPT
creator open AI. The experts sign the statement, which says
mitigating the risk of extinction from Ai should be a
global priority alongside other societal scale risks, such as
pandemics and nuclear war. Why
Adam Curry: are we even worried about Ukraine? We're all going
to die.
John C Dvorak: That was Nora Yes, that was Nora and she's
saying that she's reporting this bull crap story about how all
humanity all of it baby, including the you know
aborigines in Australia are all gonna die. Yes, the Ukrainians
everybody i How is how is the AI going to kill anyone to start
with unless they build Robocop but they have to build and then
the Robocop would have to build more Robo cops until they're all
out of control, and they would be killing people for what?
What's the motivation?
Adam Curry: Well, maybe France 24 can help us out because
they're all over this story
Unknown: brief as it is stark. This one sentence statement
signed by more than 350 tech experts makes a plea to
policymakers. It says mitigating the risk of extinction from Ai
should be a global priority alongside other societal scale
risks, such as pandemics and nuclear war. Same writer, the
Center for AI safety he points to several disaster scenarios,
like drug discovery tools being used to create chemical weapons,
or enfeeblement, where humanity loses the ability to self govern
and becomes completely dependent on machine
John C Dvorak: Hold on.
Adam Curry: This is how it's gonna happen.
John C Dvorak: What date what she just described is the plot
of wall e the movie
Adam Curry: wall. This is another great movie I haven't
seen while you've never seen no, no, no, I've seen wallet. You
mean Wally. Wally, Wally? Yeah, well, we think we've got a
jingle about Wally, Wally jingle.
John C Dvorak: But that movies theme was in feet enfeeblement.
So they brought in in feeble mint, which is the Wally plot,
which is that you have all these robots doing all this work. So
you just sit around getting fat sitting at the pool, drinking
pina coladas Christians are made by the robots. So that Is NASA
there bringing that so the threat is the first time I've
heard this, by the way, just cuz I didn't list that French 24
report, but in feeble Mint is how they're going to kill us.
Adam Curry: Let's listen again to that enfeeblement part,
Unknown: the Center for AI safety points to several
disaster scenarios, like drug discovery tools being used to
create chemical weapons, or enfeeblement, where humanity
loses the ability to self govern and becomes completely dependent
on machines.
Adam Curry: We need to we need to get the actual report word
states and feeble meant what was the movie wasn't called
John C Dvorak: a script has it?
Adam Curry: Exactly. Oh, man. Although I there's more to this
report, but just want to mention, had a thought yesterday
that there is one area that I think we will see the brilliant
AI come in, and that is going to be medical care. They already
have the doctors just as a hump of human flesh in between the
pharmaceutical company where you come in to the doctor or your
provider, and you say, Hey, I don't feel good. And the doctor
goes in well, let me loose down the list of drugs. Yeah. And he
said, Oh, this one you need this one and he hands it out. That's
it. So why not just cut out the middleman cut out the doctor and
and
John C Dvorak: pharma pharma robots pharma bots, bots.
Unknown: Among the statements bankers are executives from
Google and Microsoft, the CEO of chat GPT is open AI. And
Geoffrey Hinton referred to as one of the godfathers of AI.
That guy
said the existential threat. I think maybe the US and China and
Europe and Japan can all cooperate on trying to avoid
that existential threat. But the question is, how should they do
that? I think stopping development isn't feasible.
Other industry figures however, say the fears around human
extinction are overblown, and many believe the real problem
with AI is its reproduction of bias learn from racist,
patriarchal or exclusionary systems. The statement follows a
much longer letter signed by more than 1000 experts including
Tesla CEO Elon Musk, it called for a pause in development of
next gen AI warning non human minds might eventually outsmart
and replace us.
Adam Curry: This is such a psyop on people. It really it really
is ridiculous. And it's working by the way. It's working. I
think I have a I think I have the clip here. Here we go. I
believe that AI could eat us There you go. That's Glenn Beck.
John C Dvorak: You owe me it'll
Adam Curry: surprise you as an isolator. But I got to do it
now. But so so just so disingenuous open AI Oh, we
signed this letter. Meanwhile, they're releasing chat GP
John C Dvorak: analytic Elissa, these idiots. Okay, so it's
Adam Curry: open AI. So Sam Altman, and he is their company.
They we used to be a nonprofit now their company is releasing
Chad GPT app, Microsoft who also co signatory. They are adding
mandatory system wide artificial intelligence, the windows
Copilot to Windows 11.
John C Dvorak: So it's all a Clippy
Adam Curry: Well, I think this is worse than that, because it
will be it will be basically indexing all your stuff,
everything you have on your computer, sending it back to
wherever and then helping you do stuff.
John C Dvorak: This is spyware, the x now their index system
stinks.
Adam Curry: I'm just telling you what they're saying and what
they're doing. Elon Musk co signatory. His brain implant
firm has gotten approval for human tests, man,
John C Dvorak: that's okay. But
Adam Curry: But ivermectin wasn't okay, but it's okay for
Elon to jam a probe in your head that's fine. That's just fine.
Yeah it was interesting to see that the I think I still think
this is where it's going the open AI CEO Sam Altman he also
has this world coin some shit coin he's he's put together and
he's you know as a wallet and whatever
John C Dvorak: that the other Sam Altman is that guy
Adam Curry: was this guy thinks the same guy. It's the same
John C Dvorak: open AI guys not the same guy as the freaky guy
that was selling the head FTX
Adam Curry: No, that's that's bank win free. This is World
coin.
John C Dvorak: why don't my bank win free is Sam Altman.
Adam Curry: I don't know. They are kind of the same guy, I
guess.
John C Dvorak: Well once got clean shaven. That's a boss.
Adam Curry: So he's now released the orb. for universal ID
release the orb Exactly. The orb for universal ID clear is
getting in the game with ID here for clear the airport guys
John C Dvorak: know those guys struggle to do anything well,
Adam Curry: you know what your, your fake girly LinkedIn profile
is going to get in trouble pretty soon. Because thank you
because now you can use clear identification with LinkedIn
soon it'll just be mandatory. I can guarantee you that's going
to have
John C Dvorak: you this has been your guarantee for years. It's
going to happen.
Adam Curry: It's going to happen. And this is my favorite
AI story. Not we'd had the story just on the last episode. The
move they fired, the National Eating Disorder organization
fired everybody because they wanted to unionize and said oh,
we're not going to need you anymore. We're going to use a
chat bot. Remember this story? I'll remind you nearly 70
Unknown: people last year reached out to a helpline
operated by the National Eating Disorders Association. Those
numbers had more than doubled during the COVID emergency and
they still haven't returned to pre pandemic levels. But now the
association is shutting down that helpline in favor of a
chatbot Kate wells with Michigan Radio has more.
The helpline is run by just six paid staffers a couple of
supervisors and they train and oversee up to 200 volunteers at
any given time. The staff which were overwhelmed under supported
burned out there was a ton of turnover. So the helpline staff
voted to unionize. So cliche but
like we did not have our oxygen masks on and we were putting on
everyone else's oxygen mask. Like
becoming unsustainable. Managers at the National Eating Disorders
Association or NIDA also thought that this situation was becoming
unsustainable. In March, the helpline staff formally notified
Anita about their unionization. Four days later, they were in
what seems like a pretty routine virtual staff meeting. NPR
obtained audio of the call and abruptly needed as board chair
Jeff kradic. fired all the helpline staff. After more than
20 years the helpline was being shut down. Instead, Pratik said
Anita would be transitioning to a chatbot named Tessa
Adam Curry: okay, you remember the story now?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it was a good anti union thing.
Adam Curry: Eating Disorder helpline takes down chatbot
afterwards advice go Horeb goes horribly wrong. So they launched
they fire the staff, they launched the chat bot, Tessa,
amongst other things, stated that eating disorder, recovery
and intentional weight loss can coexist and be done safely. God
recommended that you couldn't you can lose one to two pounds a
week. Just count your calories. This is horrible for people with
eating disorders. This is the worst thing you can imagine. I
also think that this is a counter offensive. I'm not sure
it's all true.
John C Dvorak: I think the whole thing was it was rigged. You get
rid of all these people that want to unionize. Yeah, put the
chat bot in temporarily and then fire the chat bot and start
hiring scabs. Oh,
Adam Curry: perfect. There you go. Nailed it. Nailed it. Now of
course, it's saying well, this wasn't really AI. Okay. This was
just a chat bot man and wasn't really AI. Which brings us to
the genius test done by a professor and students,
Unknown: CW Howe, who is a Duke PhD and a professor actually
assigned his students a really interesting assignment. He said
that he had them all generate an essay 63 of his students, which
used a prompt that he gave them for chat GPT their job was to
then grade their essay and look for so called hallucinated
information and critique its analysis. Now, what he points
out hallucinate information is stuff we talked about here
before fake quotes, fake sources, real sources that are
misunderstood and mischaracterized. He says that
all 63 essays, every single assignment, what he found was
that the biggest takeaway is that their students learn that's
chatty, but he was not reliable, because all of them included
some sort of hallucinated information and it shows you
that chatty PT, at least in its current form, and maybe for all
time, who knows how difficult this is for for them to solve is
that can easily hallucinate and create false information.
Adam Curry: I think we need to point out that the term
hallucinate is made up by the tech industry to make it seem
less impactful when it's just old crap. Oh, yes, AI can
hallucinate.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I have no idea hallucination really should
be only attributable to humans. Yeah. Well, that's
Adam Curry: why are animals a robot? That's why they're using
the term to keep you
John C Dvorak: humanize it a dime. That could there was an
interesting question there that I never considered, which is
possible that they can't correct us ever. What do you mean? He
said in there, they don't know if they can fix the
hallucination problem with the with these essays that these
things write up? And I'm wondering whether or not that's
true. Is it possible that it is one of those things that because
of the nature of the of the algos that are, can make this
thing work in the first place that it because it's only doing
putting one word after the other, that it can't not do
this? And the reason I suggest that is possible that it can't
not do this. In other words, it has to make these mistakes
constantly is how hard can it be to teach these things that
humans have five fingers on each hand.
Adam Curry: I know, it's very annoying that it can't do that.
So this brings me to the Wikipedia entry for AI winter,
which you may recognize some of these moments in technology
history, and I believe the hallucination will be the next
AI winter and AI winter, according to the entry in the
history of artificial intelligence and AI winter is a
period of reduced funding and interest in artificial
intelligence research. The term was coined by analogy of the
idea of a nuclear winter, it all kind of fits in. Because it's
just as scary as nuclear. The field has experienced several
hype cycles, followed by disappointment and criticism,
followed by funding cuts followed by renewed interest
years or even decades later. So the overview timeline 1966 the
drastic failure of machine translation? Does this ring a
bell?
John C Dvorak: Well, yes, and that was the era when these
things were called the electronic brains. And that was
a rhotic brains, electronic brains, and it was considered
that there was the same pipe about never, that's when those
movies started coming. I think The Forbin Project came out,
like in the early 70s, early 70s. Yeah, yeah, we had all
these movies where the computer was taking over and it was going
to kill us all and it was going to, you know, get together with
other machines and the whole thing that that was a
distinctive moment in time, which produced a lot of very
entertaining films.
Adam Curry: So this was the lack of process progress. 1964 The
National Research Council had become concerned about the lack
of progress and formed the ALP a C ELPAC, the automatic language
processing advisory committee to look into the problem. And they
concluded in a famous 1966 report that machine translation
was more expensive, less accurate and slower than human
translation. Then we got the abandonment of connectionism.
Does this ring any bells? No, that one does not ring a bell
1969 Some of the earliest work in AI use networks of circuits
or connected units to simulate intelligent behavior. So kind of
like neural networking. Examples of this kind of work called
connectionism. Good term, Walter Pitts, Warren McCullough's first
description of a neural network for logic Marvin Minsky's work
on snark, S n, AR C.
John C Dvorak: I don't know what that is. So connectionism that
failed. They were abandoned. Let's see why were they
abandoned didn't work. It work. Then we had the light hitting
Minsky had anything to do with didn't work. By the way. It was
Minsky. He was a professor at MIT and it was considered one of
the fathers of AI. Kind of
Adam Curry: okay. Then we had the light Hill report. Sir James
light Hill was asked by UK Parliament to evaluate the state
of AI research in the UK, now called the light Hill report,
and he criticized the utter failure to achieve its grandiose
exempt objectives. The report led to the complete dismantling
of AI research in the UK. Completely gone, then DARPA,
DARPA, they came in DARPA was going to save the day, early
1970. The attitude changed with after the passage of the
Mansfield a net amendment in 1969, which required DARPA to
fund mission oriented direct research. And of course, that
went nowhere. Then we had the cert debacle, as you are the
speech understanding Research Program, Carnegie Mellon. So
this is all basically still just trying to understand speech. And
then he and I, I should have known this one, the collapse of
the lisp machine market lisp. That was superb. was to be the
language of artificial intelligence.
John C Dvorak: Lisp was going to take over the place. It was the
process still, there's still remnants of Lisp in there.
Adam Curry: Emacs runs on lisp. And I had no idea Lisp was
actually an early AI type language. And it failed. And
we're left with Emacs, which only neckbeards use. Then we had
the fifth generation project 1981 Japanese Ministry of
international trade and industry $850 million, a lot of money in
81 bucks for the fifth generation computer. Their
objectives were to write programs to build machines that
could carry on conversations, translate languages, interpret
pictures, and reason like human beings. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Got everybody all jacked up in Silicon Valley or
was fearful that because the Japanese you have to remember in
the 80s were running the world. They were taken over, they
bought the Rockefeller Center they bought most of Hawaii. They
were buying everything up because there were there were
that was the where everything should go. In fact, there was a
book done by James Fallows I have a copy where him and he's
not the only one Now, that said, we should all do things the way
the Japanese do them. And the Japanese are this teams, we they
will get rid of the assembly line.
Adam Curry: Teams means yes, of course. I remember teams.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, of course. And Toyota was the way to go.
And it went on and on until the Japanese stock market collapsed.
I think that was an I don't know, 93 or something. I can't
remember when it collapsed. But when it collapsed, it never
recovered. And the whole Japanese ID and this this idea
that everything should be the way Japanese do it fell into the
toilet. That was the end of it, but it was triggered by that
stupid computing project. They made all these they'd been you
know, sort rate saber rattling about this fifth generation I
was I was called the fourth generation or whatever a fifth
generation computer that was going to run everything.
Adam Curry: The fifth generation project ended not with
successful roar, but with a whimper. Then the strategic
computing initiative that was DARPA's response to it the
program was under direction of the information processing
technology office always with government. You see, always
we've got what are these guys doing? Government has to come in
once again. Jack Schwarz. Does that ring a bell? Yeah, does
kinda, yeah, he ascended to the leadership of IP to and in 1987,
dismissed expert systems as clever programming. And he said
he cut funding to AI deeply and brutally was no good AI.
John C Dvorak: I think he's the one pulling the plug on
everything went down the tubes after that, and and, in fact,
and we had a note from someone that I read up, I don't know,
1015 shows ago, where she she reminded me that if you were
doing anything in venture capital in the late 80s, and
through probably most of the 90s, and you put you put a
mention of AI into the proposal, it would be rejected because aI
had gotten such a bad reputation in the late 80s. After all this,
this happened. We went through this all these issues that
failed. They're all failures. In fact,
Adam Curry: your buddy John Markoff in the New York Times in
2005, wrote at its low point, sub computer scientists and
software engineers avoided the term artificial intelligence
entirely for fear of being viewed as wild eyed dreamers.
The Economist 2007 investors were put off by the term voice
recognition command. Remember all that? Remember the IBM you
got the little box with the with the headset in it? You'd have to
go, okay, computer. I'm now typing something to you. Period.
Get
John C Dvorak: that? Remember the cars that had a bunch of
voices in them and you had to talk to the car? Oh, what car
was this? There was a bunch of Japanese cars that were yakking
at you constantly.
Adam Curry: Remember, this guy was probably Yeah, drive. I
don't know. Jeff been yakking at you. Oh, man, that's hilarious.
I think we're just in another one of these cycles.
John C Dvorak: Boris is this whole we are ever in his cycles,
and it's
Adam Curry: always and you always have to bring in
Kurtzweil Well, I believe in Kurtzweil the guy's a genius.
John C Dvorak: Kurtzweil you know, I've read it run into that
guy. So often. I had him on my silicone insurance. I ran it.
I've run into him over time. And he is so on his he's like not
even in the room. It's very strange person
Adam Curry: when he mean he's not in the room. He's like Sam
Backman, fried. Have you
John C Dvorak: ever walked up to somebody who is like talking or
doing or doing something or looking at something and you
take your hand and put it in front of their face and go up
and down and up and down and up and down. And they don't react
to it not
Adam Curry: recently. But I can imagine what you're talking
about. Yeah, that's
John C Dvorak: done that with was a while to Kurtzweil. Wow.
Adam Curry: So I think the problem I have with all of this
is, there's some very simple things I would like solve, which
I believe AI will be great for spam would be one. Like, if
Microsoft is putting it into their stuff. Why not just solve
spam means that it's heuristics, and there's a lot of training
being done. And then how about Siri or Alexa or any of these
things? Make them work decently. But no, none of it?
John C Dvorak: I think you and I should start this spam AI
company.
Adam Curry: What's that gonna do?
John C Dvorak: Stop spam.
Adam Curry: But it doesn't work.
John C Dvorak: Well to collect a lot of money than that. Good
Adam Curry: luck with that. Can you just imagine us showing up
to some investors? Hey, hey, buddy. Give us your money. Look
at
John C Dvorak: Oh, we have frontmen doing it for us. We're
too old, a 20 year olds for yourself, please. You're going
to don't like give him money that they
Adam Curry: couldn't even use it properly on on Facebook or
Twitter to D to remove stuff. It's all human beings who are
now stressed out and on Zoloft because of the horrible watch
and they want to unionize. Exactly. Exactly. By the way
just speaking of that, I looked up that del Harvey who according
to my my new friend here was the one who was really running the
show at Twitter. Do you remember this conversation? Yes, please
John C Dvorak: continue.
Adam Curry: It's a she by the way del Harvey. And del Harvey
is a very and never discussed. Very, very strange person. I
found a Forbes article from 2014. Harvey was the 25th
employee at Twitter, where her official title is vice president
of trust and safety but she's more like Silicon Valley's chief
sanitation officer dealing with the dirtiest stuff on Twitter,
spam, harassment, child exploitation, threats of rape
and murder. And that's not even del Harvey's real name. Harvey
has an unusual background for someone with so much power over
public speech. She isn't a lawyer once they have she's
graduated from college. Del Harvey is not her legal name.
She's secretive about her past, but allows that she grew up in
the south where she spent the summer as a lifeguard at a state
mental institution working with troubled youth for education
about the dark side of the Internet came instead from
experience. In 2003. When she was 21, she started volunteering
for perverted justice, a group that posed as young kids online
to engage potential pedophiles. I remember that group when they
caught one they post the chats along with the identity of the
would be this sounds like a cool reality show. eventually became
the site's law enforcement liaison bundling up evidence for
local police this is this is a spook This is a very very spooky
person.
John C Dvorak: Well you got to phony name that's a big deal.
You got to know that one person that came today the costume
expert mentioned the fact that when you get in the agency you
your name has changed.
Adam Curry: If you really a high of em clearly MK Ultra working
at the mental institution completely controlled Yeah, this
is this I want I guess she's gone right? She would be gone
she would read Oh no, we don't know it may have a new name new
identity it's interesting
John C Dvorak: Oh, that's that's an interesting little tidbit. Ya
know you'll never hear this on any other show. No.
Adam Curry: Probably not. And with that, how about I thank you
for your currency in the morning to you the man who put the sea
in? Was that term again? Connectivism
John C Dvorak: Connectivism Connectivism
Adam Curry: ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend on the
other end Mr. John
John C Dvorak: and I would say from the looks of things we're
going to do one segment is going to
Adam Curry: be one segment people you don't have to leave
it'll take very little of your time believe me very little of
your time. All right. Well, where are you? Where am I what I
said in the morning to you I did the whole echo I'm
John C Dvorak: sorry. Good morning to you and in the
morning the ships of the sea and and there's substantial water in
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1559 The title of that one was of course cobalt honoring the
the old COBOL programming language Parker Polly brought us
the artwork and it was a memorial day special no
mattresses for sale. But you know we always like to do
something a little traditional on some of these traditional
days and so Parker Polly had all the elements there it had an
eagle it had some Americana it had our names I personally it
wasn't my all time favorite there were a couple other ones
that I like the one that I liked here you didn't you thought it
was creepy. The capitalist agenda honor with the eagle
John C Dvorak: check was it oh no that yeah, I didn't like that
at all. You said looks like a person not like an eagle which
well the problem No, it didn't say the whole thing like a
person. The beak? The beak? Yeah. If you the beak look like
abstaining like some sort of creepy thing it was creepy I
didn't like it now. I don't even see it on here whereas
Adam Curry: it's on the left hand side about well got a lot
of art today about five down I would say oh there it is. Yeah,
we both kind of like commentary bloggers but art but it was not
appropriate for Memorial Day it was it did show up in the
chapters as expertly done by Dred Scott in those modern
podcast I was a good but
John C Dvorak: picture. Yeah, it's aI Yes.
Adam Curry: I've given up on it was aI but yeah, but ai ai but
we know what's going on with AI but Parker probably had to he
had one with episode number in there, which we try to avoid. So
we didn't use that one. He took it out smartly. There a couple
of mattress sale jokes, which is good. But again, you know, we on
Memorial Day will will scoff and scorn the mattress promotions.
We're not actually going to use it as art then at the same time
that would have been wrong. Was there anything else that we
liked that we needed to discuss?
John C Dvorak: No, I was looking I'm looking at him now and the
this was clearly the most appropriate I mean, there were
some other Memorial Day stuff but like the dame Kenny Ben with
the soldier that pit across Yeah. We don't want to get to
modeling about it and
Adam Curry: what's the what's the word you use their modeling,
modeling.
John C Dvorak: Amen. Garry's Mod. Is that word the word is
from No. Somebody will find that very funny.
Adam Curry: I understand mod I know mod. But no mod. Kiss. Kiss
my grits is what Moto is used to say.
John C Dvorak: No, that's from this show. The analysts say Oh,
you're
Adam Curry: right. This Atlas mod Allah says all the same. I'm
not old enough to really remember. It's Thank you very
much to Parker polyester Parker poly for bringing us the artwork
for episode 1559 We're on the 1560 and we want to thank a
shortlist of producers but still very important to us for
supporting us for episode 1560 And we kick it off with Sir
autonomous of Dogpatch and Lois LeBeau via he comes in once a
month with random numbers with shorts code somehow we don't
really understand it. I'm sure this included a $2 bill as
usual, this $2,332
John C Dvorak: was this it did he has cash of $2 bills. Do you
have the note there, but this is an oxymoron. This oxymoron in a
palindrome.
Adam Curry: Oxymoron. Oxymoron idea though.
John C Dvorak: I do have to note right here. Okay. I have a hard
copy. Okay. Oh, it's hard. From Serrana missive. Dogpatch. Loris
LeBeau, via thank you for all the producers for their hard
work to make this show and it's searchable archives. My go to
source for information,
Adam Curry: I want to say something, we have a new
producer who's working on a new search engine, which includes
the artwork, the transcripts, the clips, all the articles, and
it's powered by AI. And I've already used a little bit of it,
and it's pretty cool. So it's going to be it's going to hit
cert on most of Dogpatch and Loisel beaubier. Right where he
likes it. He's gonna love this.
John C Dvorak: And then he has a quote, Those who forgot history
are condemned to repeat it. Ukraine offers an example of
forgotten history. The Powell Doctrine offered points such as
Do we have genuine broad international support? And is
there a plausible exit strategy to avoid endless entanglement?
Adam Curry: That would be negative. If we're talking about
John C Dvorak: I think both are negative. Correct to add
violates both I don't think there's broad international
support is Sunday shows the people that didn't know buddy,
not one country in the southern hemisphere, the entire globe is
supporting this war,
Adam Curry: right. In fact, Africa is all against it.
Several European countries are against it. Poland's getting
pissed off. Yeah, I agree. Um, the
John C Dvorak: growing sentiments by Ukraine's allies
to impose reparations sets the stage for an ugly future for
countries imposing reparations. There is ample research on how
sanctions be, which just reminds me of a there's an essay in
defense one, a newsletter written by Wesley Clark and a
bunch of other people,
Adam Curry: the West Clark, seventh guy,
John C Dvorak: and he's going on and on and on about how we're
not supporting the International Criminal Courts, persecution or
prosecution, I should say, of Vladimir Putin. Yeah, and I shot
put it I'll try to get a link to for the next newsletter. But
because findable, and they're going on and on about it as if
that they don't know for a fact that George W. Bush would be
listed as a war criminal and go
Adam Curry: to jail if if we, if you recognize the court stepped
John C Dvorak: out of the country, but he's not going to
do that. Did you know that before George W. Bush became
president, he had never left the United continental United
States. No, I didn't never stepped foot out of the country.
In fact, on surprise, you're boring. I only know this from a
fellow student who was in his class at Yale, a Yalie.
newspaper called bones. And he told me he wasn't this guy
wasn't his skeleton bones. And he says that even when George HW
Bush was the ambassador to China, George was offered a trip
on the government dime to come over to China is as one of his
as the son and party, you know, because to hang out. If you're
the ambassador country, you'd like Hunter, you're going to
have a lot of fun. And so Nope, he wouldn't take the trip. Wow.
They're hated leaving the country. So he's not gonna get
arrested. Okay, let me start over with this. The growing
sentiment by Ukraine's allies to impose reparations sets the
stage for an ugly future for countries imposing reparations.
There's ample research on how sanctions and reparations
undermine desired results. The last major post war agreement
that imposed reparations was the Treaty of Versailles that worked
out which led to Hitler Yeah, what type of leadership will
arise under a reparations imposed Russia? And will these
future leaders rebuild with far more venom? allies of the future
rebuilt Russia? are allies of the future rebuilt Russia are
already apparent and they should they could be formidable
opponents? No jingles? No karma?
Adam Curry: Sir Armus Dogpatch and Laura Soboba always giving
us something to think about. Think about it.
John C Dvorak: He's a worldly guy. He's he's seen he's seen a
lot turned around.
Adam Curry: He knows what's up. Appreciate that autonomous.
Thank you so much, and it really saved the day for us. Although
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Adam Curry: Megan and I discussed fairies. She brought
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Adam Curry: Graduation because everything's changed now man.
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Adam Curry: We while we discussed this a few weeks ago
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mean I see stuff in July scheduled already so definitely
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protection and remember if you can't find one near you start
one yourself it's easy some day de bom bom you won't be
triggered all you see is like a party before we get to the ISOs
Paul Helmick wanted to give karma for his lawyer Tom
Corrigan for winning his case pro bono.
Unknown: You've got karma.
Adam Curry: See, John, you see see me on the note and I take
care of it. Sorry that nevermind?
Unknown: Yeah.
Adam Curry: I got a lot of ISOs
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, go look Brent's room as soon as a
12321212
Adam Curry: Here we go. We're watching you rock that is so
sweet. Chris was great.
Unknown: To be in panic. We will not be in panic.
Adam Curry: By the way I forgot this one we got some human
resource was abused. You bendy? Just had to play that. And
here's the one I think that should win. I believe that AI
could eat us and I think that's kind of a winner.
John C Dvorak: I kind of liked the other one better.
Adam Curry: You'd like this one. This was great. That one? Yeah.
Okay, it was alright,
John C Dvorak: what do you have? Me? I don't know if I have
anything to top that. But I do have three. Okay. First of all,
I have aliens.
Adam Curry: Probably not aliens. Okay.
John C Dvorak: I got Bang. Bang. Dang owl.
Adam Curry: Was it bang ding out. Bang. Dang owl. Where's
that from?
John C Dvorak: It's from the famous. Well, you'll hear the
whole thing. Coming out. Probably should let that one
out. Yeah. Later. That's that was one of the pilots on the
plane that crashed in San Francisco.
Adam Curry: Oh, bang ding our I remember that. Yes, of course.
Hold. Yes. Yeah. And the last one is this one. Totally. I
think my wins. Yeah, let me just check it. This one. This was
great. Yeah, I think that's a winner. I think that's a winner
for our trans Maoism segment.
John C Dvorak: I have a copy of a slew of clips for this.
Adam Curry: Oh, good. Well, first, let's, let's see how this
is being ramped up. Because of course, there's so much extreme
right wing hatred towards LGBTQ. That Department of Homeland
Security is issuing warnings
Unknown: of Homeland Security is warning of a potential troubling
escalation and tactics from right wing extremists. Catherine
herridge has more on this and she joins us from Washington,
Catherine, we understand the power grid could be a target.
Good morning. According to the intelligence report obtained by
CBS News, these groups have developed credible and specific
plans to attack the power grid since at least 2020 as a way to
disrupt the country and the ability of government to
operate. The report warns extremists adhering to a range
of ideologies will likely continue to plot and encourage
physical attacks against power networks, which include more
than 6400 plants and nearly a half million miles of high
voltage lines. While the bulletin emphasized small scale
attacks are unlikely to cause widespread power loss. It may
cause disruption to critical infrastructure, like hospitals
and police departments. Homeland Security noted several
indicators including online chatter. While the report does
not suggest an imminent threat, the homeland security secretary
has warned lone wolf actors and Small bands of extremists are
among the greatest domestic threat because they are hard to
detect, disrupt up to and can mobilize quickly.
Adam Curry: Oh crap. This is this is this is so wrong online
chatter, John online chatter because you know, they're all
terrorists you know when you boycott to target by the way
you're a terrorist just let you know, according to MSNBC
Unknown: when target caves into this then it says that the
moment you threaten the employees of even a very large
corporation you get to control its policies This is economic
terrorism literally terrorism creating fear among the workers
and forcing the corporations to sell the things you want not
sell the things you don't
Adam Curry: you see how this is being turned? Now it's to reject
something that's being sold in a store by not going there. Now
you are putting the people who work there in harm's way. And we
got a boots on the ground from a producer whose wife is a store
manager for Carter's OSH ba Oshkosh. I'm not sure I'm not
familiar with this story familiar with Carter's Oshkosh.
Now it's probably regional, was summoned to an emergency call
this morning. They usually only have one of these calls if
there's a major personnel shift in corporate so the rumors were
running wild. The call was covering the latest target
situation and how the company was planning to handle it.
Carter does sell into major retailers like targets and
Kohl's. They also have a line of children's clothes that are
alphabet people friendly. But the message is are neutral
things like a rainbow with the caption Love everybody and have
been selling them for years with new hit no issues. Today, the
stores were informed that they are to pull those products and
direct customers who asked for them to their website for the
safety of the employees. They also had some window marketing
that would have gone up today and that has also been
cancelled. From our experience, quarters has been one of the
better large companies keeping their politics out of the
workplace during COVID. They never forced the desk job on
people. They never even asked what employee status was I'm
hoping that this means the pendulum is starting to swing
the other way. The CEO referred to the bud light effect, as well
as the effect of their employees as the reason for the product
pole. So this is now finally starting to dawn on companies
that huh, maybe not such a great idea. This is, of course,
directed from on high. This is the whole concept of this comes
from the DEI, the ESG and the now CEI, the corporate equity
index, which kind of forced these corporations into doing
this kind of stuff. And someone sent me a clip was very
interesting. Beth Brooke Marcin Marciac who she was she was she
some big wigs used to be somewhere and she she isn't this
was in the newsletter. I was this we were talking about this
is the the PG le
John C Dvorak: what PGL II is
Adam Curry: partnership for global LGBTQ equality. Oh, no,
this is something else. Okay, well, here, here, here she is
talking about this is this from the Sustainable Business Network
Conference, I should tell the audience about PG le, what does
it do? Why is it important and we would love to have more
companies join in.
Unknown: But this this story about Davos and the handful of
us that found each other. So the PGL, a partnership for global
LGBTI quality. This is a group that was formed in collaboration
with the World Economic Forum after five or six years of
working behind the scenes with senior leaders at just a handful
of companies. This company, this organization, was founded in
January of 2019. Can you believe that the World Economic Forum
just agreed to do it this January. So we have there in
collaboration with them, we can use their channels of
distribution, their brand, they're now in the mainstream,
on the main stage in Davos and into the mainstream of the
programming at the World Economic Forum is founded by
seven companies. We are signing on more we want more, we have 14
now but what are we committed to do? We are committed to change
the world for LGBTI inclusion around the world, not by
competing with other LGBTI organizations but by amplifying
and lifting by using the platform of the World Economic
Forum both in Davos but also regionally and around the world.
Also working with the UN, trying to get these companies you have
to have signed on to the UN standards in order to join the
partnership and how many companies have signed on to that
and to under 70 Our goal is to get many many more and and then
to work around the world both not only in sharing best
practices among the companies, but their strength in numbers.
So With a platform of the World Economic Forum, the power of the
UN and then finally the strength in the companies working
together, where you when you combine are the the the
economies, the corporate economies of those 14 countries
were bigger than most a lot of countries. So tremendous power.
in Davos a couple of years ago, Vice President Biden met
privately with those of us working behind the scenes and he
sat down with us and looked us in the eye and he said, you can
do you companies can do what we government cannot and will never
do. You have to change the world on this issue.
Adam Curry: There you go. And some of these founding members
will not be surprised Accenture, Boston Consulting Group,
Deloitte, Coca Cola Company, Edelman, Ernst and Young all the
all the advertisers starting to figure it out here. Human Rights
Watch Johnson and Johnson MasterCard, Microsoft, Procter
and Gamble, PepsiCo, PricewaterhouseCoopers,
Salesforce, Scotiabank, GLAAD Human Rights Campaign. McKinsey
and Company Novartis, Nestle WPP. No wonder no wonder it
being thrown dude, just been thrown at everybody. It's all
it's the whole advertising community are all in on this.
It's all of this. You got some links in the show notes to take
a look at in the show notes. So
John C Dvorak: I've picked up a weird series of clips from NPR.
Oh, now this woman, I don't just called the trans the other side.
This is the other side of all these arguments you have about
you know, mutilating kids. Oh, this the other side. Oh, the
other side. Oh, is the pro side? Yes. Okay, good. We need is
balanced show we do both sides. No, sorry. But what was weird
about this, this was I picked this up on the NPR news feed.
And there was two things. One, it wasn't introduced by anybody.
It was just this woman shows up right at the beginning. I don't
know who it is somebody with a British accent. And she does
this whole segment and I don't know who it is. She's never
outro. And, and the weirdest thing to me was, since I record
the whole hour of the NPR feed, it came in at a notable maybe
I'd say at least eight to 10 DBS lower than the regular audio ta
because it was very noticeable. You have the hypes spikes,
normal audio and then there's this thing shows up as a little
Lego like a thing. It's like what the hell
Adam Curry: like was pre produced but produced
improperly.
John C Dvorak: It was pre produced and never, never potted
up, right. And I have no idea will do what they were thinking
or what was doing there. I mean, I just fixed it, of course. But
besides just fixing it, I had to do interstitial fixes. Because
the volume was going up and down and up and down. And every which
was a piece of shit. To be honest.
Adam Curry: You had to do some real work here. You had to ride
the fader.
John C Dvorak: Right? Yes, exactly. And so. But I still
don't know where this came from, or why they ran it, who's who's
behind it or anything else. But it's, it pretty much presents
the other side of the trans debate. And here we go. It's
clip one. Across the country,
Unknown: conservatives are targeting transgender people
with legislation restricting their medical care. 19 states
across the US have already passed laws banning at least
some kind of gender affirming care for transgender minors. In
Texas lawmakers passed a bill earlier this month that would
prohibit doctors from providing surgeries and essential
medication for transgender youth. This type of care is
evidence based and supported by the majority of doctors. But
Governor Greg Abbott has promised to sign the legislation
when it comes across his desk.
John C Dvorak: Okay, so this is Texas. Yeah, a lot of Texas in
here Texas is targeting being targeted, by the
Adam Curry: way we want to erase them.
John C Dvorak: And so it's the way they present this is there's
an interesting little contradiction with throughout
the report, which is all we've been hearing Oh, we don't go we
don't operate and, you know, a sterilize under 18. We thought
that we do now even though there's tons of documentation
that they do it.
Adam Curry: Hold on What just literally three doctors left
Dell Children's Hospital over this bill. Dell Children's
Hospital, they left because they couldn't do their affirming
care.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's just saying. So hear it because they
couldn't do it. They couldn't operate and butcher these kids.
Yeah. To put it mildly. Yes. Did I use that word? Okay. Yes. But
this is again, read this the other side of the argument. So
they're making you know, they're, they're leaving
information out. And it's and it's just as they have two
children. This entry? Are they want to trash? You know they
want to transition? They all do.
Adam Curry: Well do we have to be honest about it that the way
the therapists are operating? They are indeed telling every
almost every child who has some typical child social issues or
the anxiety issues, well, you may be a boy, you may be a girl,
maybe it's time for some testosterone or some estrogen.
So yeah, that is happening, even though that is not really gender
dysphoria.
John C Dvorak: So here we go. Part Two.
Unknown: Under the bill, any transgender minus already on
gender affirming medication will be required to be weaned off the
drug when the legislation becomes law. For more, let's
bring in Teresa Gaffney. She has been reporting on this for our
partners at stat news, the health and medicine publication.
Welcome, Theresa. Thank you for having me. Theresa, what's
happening in Texas comms estates across the country are targeting
gender affirming care for transgender youth? How does this
legislation from Texas Oh,
Adam Curry: this is a script, John, this is a total script and
into that picture, and
Unknown: are they using
John C Dvorak: it again, I mentioned something else. At
first when I saw the levels being so low, and then I jacked
him up as best I could, without, you know, distorting the feed. I
realized that part of this whole thing and all the people that
are involved that woman who is the host, whoever she is, and
then this guest, they're talking beyond normal NPR style. So you
have to strain to listen, which is we know is a an effective
mechanism to get people to remember things better, because
you're so that this is done on purpose. So can you Sorry,
Adam Curry: I'm just saying stat news delivers trusted and
authoritative journalism, about health medicine and life
sciences. This seems like one of those outfits that you can order
a report from?
John C Dvorak: You know what I mean? I'm sure it is. Yeah.
Okay.
Unknown: Bill is one that's similar to many other health
care bills, targeting trans youth, prohibiting, as you
mentioned, medication for minors. So it's targeting gender
affirming hormones and puberty blockers and the language is
mostly similar to the other bills across the country. They
all specifically target people who are trying to use these
medications because of their gender identity. This language
of weaning people off the medication is slightly
different. But a handful of other states include similar
similar stipulations to systemically reduce gender
affirming care, in the same way.
So let's talk about the specific medications that are targeted in
this bill. Tell me what those medications do
what puberty blockers do as they stop the process of puberty from
happening. So for people who don't want their voice to lower
or to grow certain hair, have their their breasts grow, these
will stop those changes. It's you can stop taking the
medication at any time. And those processes will start up
again.
Adam Curry: Wow, patently false lie. Stat news is owned by John
Henry, who was also the owner of The Boston Globe in the Boston
Red Sox. Quick note, my decision to create a new publication
about health medicine and life sciences began to shape during a
dinner I attended in Boston during the summer of 2014. About
a year after I'd purchased the Boston Globe, two dozen of us
had been invited by Eric Schmidt, the executive chairman
of Google to discuss why Boston which had once an opportunity to
claim the mantle as a nation's tech hub had been eclipsed by
Silicon Valley there's a bunch of elitist douchebags
John C Dvorak: in that last report, that woman uses an
interesting phrase about getting about these bills and she says
systemically reduce the use of the word systemic which stems
from was popularized by BLM with systemic racism Yeah, I think
was used purposefully because the worst systemic is one of
those code words that the left likes
Adam Curry: I'm with you. I'm with yet you know, right now
good. Just the whole was bugging me. The reason that this was
different levels and the reason why it sounds scripted is
because it is this is a report delivered by stat news. They
might even purchase this airtime for all we know
John C Dvorak: the way it looks it's they might and that might
be the reason that P NPR was so careless about well, you gave it
at this level is where we're going to send it out.
Adam Curry: Yeah. FM, we're not going to do any work. It's not
our report. Thank you, Jesse. So I'm saying that
John C Dvorak: psychic And I bet somebody in the control room
saying that exactly. Part three,
Unknown: gender affirming hormones, those are things. So
someone who's a trans man might want to take testosterone, so
that someone's gender presentation aligns more with
their gender identity.
Got it. And just to be clear to the puberty.
Adam Curry: Got it. That's a journalistic retort.
Unknown: someone's gender presentation aligns more with
their gender identity.
Got it. And just to be clear, to the puberty blockers that you're
talking about, there are other minors who may not be
transgender. Maybe they just hit puberty very, very early, and
their doctor decides it's a good idea for them to take it just to
stave it off for a period of time until they hit a more
appropriate age.
John C Dvorak: So I thought that doctor by leading the witness,
yeah. Which, which confirms that it's a script. Yes. Yeah. I just
thought that this was like, okay, so every kid if you can
remember back into sixth grade, you know, kids start to mature
at different rates. And some girls all of a sudden, you know,
the ones that have turned out to be pretty popular, started, you
know, getting big up top earlier than others. And now the girls
are jealous because you know, they're flat run, they make a
fuss about it. And, and but what they mentioned in there, what
guy what maile doesn't want his voice deepening,
Adam Curry: to want to have a squeaky voice, instead of a,
that depends. I mean, if you've been told that you're really a
girl, then off you go. Let's park for
Unknown: for a period of time until they hit a more
appropriate age.
Yes, that's correct. So cisgender children whose gender
identities align with their sex assigned at birth? If they start
going through puberty too early, they'll go on puberty blockers.
And when their doctor and then decide it's the right time to be
going through puberty, they just simply stopped taking that
medication. There's just
Adam Curry: a lot we know, this is not this doesn't work that
way. No,
John C Dvorak: no, it doesn't. I just it's hard to believe. But
anyway, here we go. Part Five is wrapping up. This is a longest
clip. The next one is quite short after that. Okay.
Adam Curry: Let's talk about the language in the quotes. You
said, Okay.
Unknown: Okay. Let's talk about the language in the bill to wean
transplant to use the medication, I'm going to quote
you in a manner that is safe and medically appropriate. And that
minimizes the risk of complications. But you spoke to
a number of doctors about this idea of weaning trans people off
medication that they need, what did they tell you?
So I spoke to physicians and researchers, experts, and they
all said the exact same thing, which is that there's no
appropriate way to do this because it's medically necessary
treatment, it is never medically appropriate to take away gender
affirming care that someone does not want to stop.
So it sounds like maybe what's happening in the Texas
Legislature is not based in science.
That's right. So one physician, her name is Meredith McNamara at
Yale, she told me, these people have no idea what they're
legislating. This is not based on science, there's not research
on how to wean trans kids off of gender affirming care, because
it's most of the time, not something that they want to do.
It's not appropriate to take away care that someone wants and
so there's no science. Yeah, based on this legislation.
Okay. And yeah, you have a number of doctors, in your
article attesting to that, but you do talk in your article
about this other grave consequences for trans youth and
that's their mental health, they're, like, more likely to
consider suicide than their peers already, but what are
doctors saying about the impact a law like this might have, you
know, on the general mental health Yeah,
Adam Curry: let me guess. Let me get this is also debunked. Let
me guess. Well, you know, you we you wean them off, and they're
gonna commit suicide, I'm just guessing act a
Unknown: law like this might have, you know, on their general
mental health.
Yeah. So there are no, as you kind of mentioned, there are no
known like physical complications from stopping
gender affirming medication all at once. The most serious
consequence is for trans kids mental health, and that is going
to occur, no matter how slowly people stop taking the
medication. But there is a lot of data showing that delayed
access to this care negatively impacts people's mental health.
So yeah, LGBTQ people, and especially trans youth consider
suicide at much higher rates than their cisgender peers. And
so experts are worried that there's going to be a surge of
mental health crises when people stop having access to this
medication. Wow.
Adam Curry: Wow, this script is unbelievable. Shame on NPR for
even calling this the other side or did you call it the you know,
John C Dvorak: I'm doing it wasn't the other side. But this
is just a part. As I said, it just shows up in the feed.
Adam Curry: No, this is purchased. This has slipped in
there. This is a favor whatever it is, it's from a bunch of
animal just native ad from ghouls. And it's unscientific,
it's unscientific.
John C Dvorak: So now the last thing is a 16 second clip, and
this is the outro This is she's just signing off and telling
that one goodbye. And then she slips in a little tidbit at the
end is drive home what you just brought up, and I've never heard
this on a report like this before. I'm going to so I
decided to play through the outro I usually cut the outros.
But this is the outro and here we go.
Unknown: Teresa Gaffney is a reporter and Podcast Producer
for step news. Thank you so much, Teresa. Thank you. And if
you or someone you know may be considering suicide, or is in
crisis call or text 988 to reach the suicide and crisis lifeline
Adam Curry: Podcast Producer from stat. Okay, got it. Decided
over a dinner with Eric Schmidt from Google. Yeah, that's a
quality dude right there. Well, I to have something to share
boots on the ground for one of our very brave parents. We've
established that there is a big difference to how girls are
approached and coaxed into transitioning to be a boy which
is 80% of the children who are who transition versus boys. And
mom, Two episodes ago, we had one of the what kowski sisters
formerly known as Oh, kowski brothers, the saying, you know,
I and the what kowski brothers are just not attractive men.
They're, you know, level Harvey Weinstein unattractive? And the
thing is, Lisa, is that her name, his name, whatever. said,
Well, you know, once I saw transgender women in porn, well,
then all of a sudden I figured, oh, maybe I could be loved. And
I thought that was a very telling. Stay statement. And one
of our producers sends me this note, which I want to share
because we've learned something new about a particular type of
porn, which seems to be responsible for young men trend
or wanting to transition to become women. Over the last two
years, my 23 year old stepson who I've known since he was two
has become a non functioning member of society smokes weed
all day loses menial jobs. After two months, started wearing nail
polish women's earrings and effeminate shirts hanging out
with trans people. His ability to reason logically is gone.
Nothing that he says makes sense. Every time we talk, I
point out the things that do not make sense to me. I point out
that he is a non serious person and needs to dress like a normal
human to be successful. Sounds like some of the Tick Tock clips
you play. It has destroyed our relationship. My wife wants
everything to just be okay and let him be him. It has done
damage to our relationship. He called today. He never calls me.
He thanked me for challenging him on his bullcrap and told me
that he is in treatment for a porn addiction. He explained
that he is addicted to something called sissy Hypno porn, short
for specification hypnotic pornography. I'm sure you've
never heard of it. I'd never heard of it. He explains that
this is sweeping the nation and every male in their 20s knows
about it and uses it. Hello producers Why am I only hearing
this now? He explained that 99% of the guys that are
transitioning or dress effeminate, ly are addicted to
sissy Hypno porn. Wow. He was about to pick up and move to
Boston where people were there to help them create an only fans
and navigate making a living basically as a sex worker. Thank
thankfully something snapped and realized that this porn has
messed up his life. And then he has I cannot play any any of
this audio. But luckily our producer used to be a
Hypnotherapist. He studied persuasion manipulation, covert
persuasion. This is seriously effed up crap manipulation using
our most instinctive drives at the most vulnerable time and
young adults life where the result is separation of youth
from their existing and future familiar bonds. This is
purposeful destruction of life for the purpose of destroying
our culture. And he says this is what it is it is certification
of men in sexual and porn with an there's like it's remix now.
With voiceover saying You are the girl you are the girl you
are the Go girl. And it says it over and over when a man is
watching straight porn video. That invert invokes first person
visual and kinesthetic experience as a woman, which is
then anchored by climax. Next time you climax. You Think about
being a woman. There's countdowns, and it's ASMR. He
says this is very as a hypnotherapist performer
hypnotherapy says this is very very dangerous and he says it's
all over tick tock tick things is a very important topic and we
need to be on the lookout for now there's some links in the
show notes. So, you know, explore at your own risk when
other tests because
John C Dvorak: you're gonna be hypnotized. One other thing not
know, as Biden was say, no joke. No, no, there's
Adam Curry: a category forced feminization. This has been a
porn category for a long time. But now they're re mixing this
with these voiceovers. So true hypnotist, hypnotizing him
digitization. And, you know, I think it's pretty well known.
And we've discussed this throughout the years that
today's young men have a very distorted view of sex because of
porn. And they're very rough with girls and with young women.
And we've seen this this take place over quite a number of
years, we've had a lot of producers talk about it.
John C Dvorak: So we had, we actually invited people to give
us stories. And we got to the point where we couldn't read
these stories. One other
Adam Curry: thing, his therapist has convinced him that we his
parents are his abusers. We abuse him by not supporting who
he is. So until today, he claimed that he was unsafe and
felt very threatened in our very presence, a direct result of his
therapist, of course, he was an absolute hack. So this is an is
you know, this is great information for, for our
producers out there. Keep an eye on your kids, people. Keep an
eye on your kids.
John C Dvorak: This is terrible. It is. But we have a series of
phony baloney reports on NPR we have a big money supporting all
this. We have therapists who are out of control and probably
partly responsible for the whole situation, we're also then we
have butchers that that are posing as an are licensed as
doctors.
Adam Curry: And to be fair, but we know from art therapists who
are brave as well, and that they have no other option. This is
what they are told to recommend by the American Association of
the American Association of psychology I think it is and by
the American Association of Pediatrics, and if they don't,
if they don't comply, and there's a complaint Yeah, then
get your license, get your license pulled your license to
do anything but obey and and this, the butchers as you call
them. Look they used 510 years ago, they did boob jobs for
girls and Butl lifts and whatever. Vaginal VAT, vaginal
plasti I'm sure that's the right word. Because Oh, it doesn't
look like the porn movies. Poof thanks, internet.
John C Dvorak: Belemnite blah blaming the internet for this?
Adam Curry: Ah, so that's disturbing. And I and I've been
I think I'm pretty hip to stuff. I'd never heard of this.
John C Dvorak: Now Yeah. So your hip again.
Adam Curry: God, I'm hip again.
John C Dvorak: I shouldn't run till I got a report from China's
China's over here. You know, trying to capture some of their
citizens. They could just walk waltz into the country, I think
Oh, yeah. Especially pharmacists gonna take over the place. Yeah,
Adam Curry: you're you're pivoting away from the hips to
see Hypno porn. I take it.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, definitely.
Unknown: opening arguments are being heard at the Brooklyn
federal courthouse. Three men are accused of acting as illegal
agents for China. They're accused of pressuring a New
Jersey resident to return to China to face embezzlement and
bribery charges. All three men pleaded not guilty. The names of
the defendants are Jong so Yang Joo young
thumb ting Wong, way too low.
And bang dang owl
and Michael McMahon, a former New York city policeman who was
working as a private investigator. Prosecutors say
Zhu and others in 2016 hired McMahon to watch and investigate
shojin, a former Chinese Communist Party official who has
lived in the United States since 2010. Prosecutors said Jiang in
2018 left a handwritten note on shoes door which read in
Chinese. If you are willing to go back to the mainland and
spend 10 years in prison, your wife and children will be
alright. In opening statements before a federal jury. McMahon's
lawyers said his client was told he was working for a Chinese
construction company trying to recover assets and he alerted
local law enforcement of his activities. The lawyer said if
he's secretly acting on behalf of the Chinese government, is he
going to call the cops and tell them he had no idea? None that
He was working for China.
Adam Curry: Now what do you what do you think this is about? What
do you think is going on here?
John C Dvorak: The whole country is infiltrated with these
Chinese spies that are doing everything they can to keep
anyone that has any familiarity with the Chinese Communist
Party. Get it? Because they're shutting dissidents, yeah, just
get get him back to China's whatever in any way you can. And
they're intimidating people. It's totally illegal. We're but
we're spending as much time we're spending. We are starting
to spend time on this. But now that you bring up these things
about these, these therapists who are breaking families up and
doing other crazy things, I think we should be looking at
that too. There's a lot of activity in this country that is
not being monitored. Well.
Adam Curry: It's interesting you say that was this? There was
something Yeah, here it is. The Council on Foreign Relations
released a report on fentanyl and the US opioid epidemic. Now
it's console formulations so take it you know take take it
for the truth you want to wear our heroin and fentanyl coming
from most of the heroin coming into the United States is
cultivated in Poppy farms in Mexico with several major
cartels controlling production, operating distribution hubs in
major major US cities. Now we were talking about China being
the to blame here. Mexican cartels typically smuggle
narcotics across the southwestern US border in
commercial and passenger vehicles moving through ports of
entry or via underground tunnels. Large quantities of
heroin are also produced in South American countries,
particularly Columbia travel to United States by air and sea.
Most fentanyl in the United States is also smuggled across
the southern border. US officials say fentanyl coming
directly from China. Previously, the dominant source has
significantly decreased since 2019. But China is still the
main manufacturer of the ingredients needed to create
fentanyl. Drug cartels have been the leaders in fentanyl
production. larger organizations organizations such as the
Sinaloa Cartel and that Jalisco new generation cartel have their
own distribution networks. Some also depend on American citizens
to smuggle fentanyl across the border. Between 2017 and
2120 21 86% of fentanyl traffickers were American
citizens. Well, hello. That's interesting.
John C Dvorak: But are they American citizens of Mexican
descent
Adam Curry: that was of course not mentioned. Well, that
John C Dvorak: should be mentioned. Now. Let's
Adam Curry: stick with China for a moment. South Korea
Unknown: reports seizing 1000s of smuggled drug capsules
containing an unusual added ingredient, the powdered flesh
from dead babies. Some people believe they can cure disease.
The Korea custom services they were made in northeastern China
from babies whose bodies were chopped into small pieces and
dried on stoves before being turned into powder. But they
wouldn't say where they believe the babies came from war exactly
who made the capsules, citing possible diplomatic friction
with Beijing. The contents though were identified by
scientific testing
enabled when we analyzed it the powdered materials sequences
better than a 99.7% match with a human DNA sequence.
No one's been reported ill from ingesting them but scientists
Shinwell gi warns they have the potential to be dangerous, but
we also see super bacteria and other germs and viruses harmful
to a person if consumed.
Some of the capsules were carried in luggage, others were
sent by international mail. The smugglers told customs officials
they believed the capsules were ordinary stamina boosters and
didn't know the manufacturing process. One official said no
one's been punished. But a customs clearance director at
Incheon Airport warned consumers should be careful about health
food supplements where the ingredients aren't clearly
marked.
Adam Curry: Man that puts a new bent on baby puck. Yeah, give
John C Dvorak: you a clip for the day for that thing.
Adam Curry: This is baby powder. What are we talking about here?
Viva lievable. Meanwhile, state visit big visit. Good old Elon
hanging out in Beijing. Mr. Musk.
Unknown: What's the goal of your China trip
surrounded by bodyguards strutting through a Beijing
hotel lobby. Elon Musk's first visit to China in three years is
an important one for Beijing and for the auto social media and
space executive. Praising the vitality of Chinese development
Musk met with the Minister of Commerce, the Minister of
Industry and the foreign minister to discuss Tesla's
place in China and the future of its technology there. For last
year China manufactured half of the company's global output some
700,000 model Y and model three sales of the cars were also
signif begins with China being the model wise biggest market.
slashing prices has also helped with the increasingly
competitive industry in China. There's also a geopolitical
aspect to the trip. And it's tensions between China and the
US. Musk has regularly struck a sympathetic tone towards
Beijing, saying according to the Foreign Ministry, that the US
and China are like conjoined twins that should not be
decoupled from
China always welcome business leaders from all countries,
including Elon Musk to visit China and gain a better
understanding and promote mutual cooperation. Attending.
The visit comes as there are rising calls in the US and in
Europe for reducing dependency on Chinese supply chains. And as
foreign companies in China are increasingly voicing concerns
after a series of corporate
Adam Curry: rates. Yeah, me long just no problem for Ilan do any
kind of business he wants is all good. And while you know we look
at China, as you know, the source of fentanyl and the
problems we have in the United States. And this all of course
started with with opioids being overprescribed. There's a lot of
good documentaries about it. And NBC follows up
Unknown: now to a landmark ruling stemming from the
nation's opioid crisis. A federal appeals court has
cleared the way for a bankruptcy deal that would shield members
of the Sackler family owners of Purdue pharma, from future civil
lawsuits, the Sackler and billions of dollars from the
sale of OxyContin and other opioid painkillers. As part of
the settlement, they would pay as much as $6 billion and give
up control of Purdue, the settlement must still be
approved by a bankruptcy court judge
Adam Curry: and they're safe, safe, everybody. Of course,
everyone focused on the Sackler family with meanwhile, Johnson
and Johnson, they think they had to tweak pay $23 billion in
fines for their participation in it. Along with I want to say
Walgreens, I want to be careful there. You know, for
distribution. I mean, the whole thing is just being covered up.
But don't worry Dr. Janice here with another virus to be afraid
of back where
Unknown: there's a cover story, a respiratory virus called hMPV.
The search term has over 10 million views on tick tock as
many people wondering what exactly it is. Chief Medical
Corps Don't
Adam Curry: you love that as some kind of justification? Hey,
you know, there's over 10 million searches on Tik Tok for
hMPV Oh, that must mean something's really going on
there or it's being spiked.
Unknown: The search term has over 10 million views on tick
tock as many people wondering what exactly it is. CHIEF
MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT Dr. Jenn Ashton is here to explain it
presents like a cold
at pretty much upper respiratory infection most of the time it
can hit the lower respiratory tract. It's not new, it was
first identified over 20 years ago. But CDC is tracking a
higher number of cases before the pandemic even started. This
is the same virus as RSV, measles, mumps symptoms just
like you said, George kind of a bad cold nasal congestion cough,
you can see a fever, occasionally shortness of
breath, it can progress to bronchitis or in some cases
pneumonia. But this is a perfect example. We've been so COVID,
RSV, influenza focused, we have to be able to walk and chew gum
at the same time. And that's not the only virus out there. This
is just another example.
Adam Curry: Oh, just another example is many viruses Be very
afraid. Do we have a treatment for Dr. June and it is a
Unknown: virus? So is it treatable?
So no vaccine right now? No antiviral treatment, per se, we
normally just follow this. And treat conservatively based on
symptoms, most people recover on their own. So treatment is what
we call you know, most of the time, people will get better
within five or seven days, how you prevent it. People are bored
and tired of hearing about this, but it bears repeating hand
hygiene, staying away from others if you're sick, covering
your mouth when you cough or sneeze, the basics,
Adam Curry: but really kill me and the virus spiked this
spring. How serious could it get?
Unknown: Well, I mean, we have to track these things. And I
know people have that, you know pandemic fatigue and
psychological fatigue and they don't like hearing about it. So
we don't know viruses mutate for a living, it can always change
Adam Curry: drum Did you know that viruses mutate for a
living?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they get more money that way.
Unknown: No viruses mutate for a living, it can always change.
Our susceptibility can change. We have to remember, it's how we
behave, how the virus behaves and how we behave together. Oh,
it's our fault. And they started to see an increased 36% increase
in cases even before the pandemic started so time this
season by this time, but people just need to keep this on their
radar.
Adam Curry: Yes, keep it on your radar. Yeah, I think NPR got a
better buy. They were able to take care of this in 18 seconds
with with the real virus.
Unknown: FDA has approved a second vaccine that protects
adults 60 And over from the common respiratory worry virus
RSV, this one is made by Pfizer. RSV usually causes a cold for
most people, but for older people in babies it can cause
serious or life threatening complications.
Adam Curry: It's interesting because I've never really heard
of RSV being a problem for old people.
John C Dvorak: I never heard of any of these things before this
Wilson
Adam Curry: Well Tina said that when her kids were young that
their RSV was known it was around and she was of course
careful. So for
Unknown: mom, no,
John C Dvorak: they started well, they start things
differently at different ages. Yeah, yeah. What sets you on a
bullshit clips. Let's go to the climate WTF clip the climate
Clip of the Day. Oh, here
Adam Curry: we go.
Unknown: According to new study, Earth is in the danger zone when
it comes to seminar of eight specific ecological metrics,
both in terms of overheating and losing its natural areas. And as
well as the well being of people living on the planet. study
looked at not just specific guardrails in terms of the
planetary ecosystem, but also measures of justice in terms of
preventing harm for groups of people. So he looked at climate
air pollution, phosphorus and nitrogen pollution, groundwater
supplies, and a number of other factors.
Adam Curry: Ah, I heard nitrogen in there that's that's new and
now that it was
John C Dvorak: mentioned, of course,
Adam Curry: justice. Yeah. Did you see the the Swedish dance
show where the climate activists showed up? You must have seen
this video. Yeah, I did. Where the camera jib just slams the
guy right in the face. Do you think that was a that was
purpose on purpose?
John C Dvorak: Well, have you ever I don't know if you've ever
played with it one of those jibs. Sure. We had one at Tech
TV and you get everyone got to play with it. Once you get the
hang of using that thing, yeah, it was on purpose.
Adam Curry: That was harsh. And I'm sure these kids are like,
Hey, man, that's not how it's supposed to go. You're not
supposed to bop me in the face with that.
John C Dvorak: Um, so we got a letter from our Veritas guy.
Adam Curry: Ah, yes. The former executive director of Project
Protoss. Yeah, sir.
John C Dvorak: Here is Strack sir Strack. So we have a report
that came in we after recent report does the Veritas update
you might want to play Oh, second
Adam Curry: Veritas update. Yes, I see it here. We're looking now
Unknown: at Project Veritas, which is now openly at odds with
its founder and former chairman James O'Keefe. The organization
filed a lawsuit against O'Keefe today. Project Veritas filed the
complaint in the US District Court for the Southern District
of New York. It accuses O'Keefe have several wrongdoings
including breach of fiduciary duty, financial misconduct and
workplace abuse. The board of directors at Project Veritas
considered removing okay from the board in February and placed
him on paid leave over alleged management issues. He was
terminated on May 15. O'Keefe founded Project Veritas around
2010, as an undercover journalism group to expose
corruption by government officials and corporations. He
launched a new organization in March called the O'Keefe Media
Group.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it looks like now what did our guy say? He
said, I didn't agree with the stuff that we're doing, I think
something like that.
John C Dvorak: I can't remember exactly, but he'd been just
bailed out. He bailed out
Adam Curry: a bit, you know, it was probably this probably. So
they're suing them over, you know, misappropriation of funds
and approaching donors. I mean, no one's gonna win this. This
No, this is not a winnable case. Not win, but it'll just drag
everybody down to drain everybody's bank account. Your
lawyers will win. Yeah, y'all should talk and just sorted out
this. No one's going
John C Dvorak: to be I did. Our guy has not said anything about
this, but and he may not know because he wasn't there that
long. But there has to be a personality conflict within the
company. A major within the board. I think within Yeah,
within the board. Somebody hates this guy. Yeah. And he hates
them. Yes. And it's usually just that simple.
Adam Curry: Yes. Sad. Sad to see that happen. It happened said
there's a couple of Russian things in the news.
John C Dvorak: Your buddy I have one Russian story All right,
let's let's roll with your Russia just as a good does it
feel good story? I'm not sure we should play it at the beginning.
Okay. Was this is the beluga spy whale.
Adam Curry: I love this story. I'm glad you got this
Unknown: news now of an alleged Russian spy turning up in
Sweden. He's white, about 15 feet tall weighs around a ton
and is an excellent swimmer, a beluga whale that has impure as
Rob Schmitz reports locals are Vince the giant mammal has been
trained by the Russian military.
The beluga whale that locals have named Valdimir VOL being
Norwegian for whale first showed up four years ago along the
Norwegian coast as marine biologist Sebastian strand.
peculiar thing with the arrived with a hardest strapped to him,
which red property of St. Petersburg, not, of course,
sparked a bunch of theories on his origins,
the most prominent one Valdimir was trained by Russia's military
for intelligence purposes
is without a doubt, trained because he responds to or used
to at least respond to common Russian training signals. And
several of the behaviors that we see him repeat even to this day
are things that we know that the military whale programs also
train the whales to do.
Russia has neither confirmed nor denied Valdimir is one of their
own, but both the US and Russia are known to have military
training programs incorporating aquatic mammals. Stratton works
for the nonprofit one whale devoted to caring for volume one
whale in fact, when we reached him, he was on a boat following
the whale probably start to second strand and his colleagues
are worried about Valdimir because it's clear he's been
trained by humans and has a hard time finding food by himself. So
he's constantly seeking human interaction. There are viral
videos of Valdimir picking up a camera dropped by a kayaker and
other picking up a woman's phone. Strand thanks Valdimir is
lonely.
A big part of our goal is also reuniting him with others.
And if he ever does, he can leave his fine career for the
humans behind him.
Adam Curry: Wait a minute, so they're just making up the spy
part just because he's been trained that always Russian so
therefore he must be a spy whale.
John C Dvorak: believe they were found with a with a camera on
him strapped on when they found him. I read some of the stories
about it. And he's he was spying on most of the fishermen seeing
what their catch look like.
Adam Curry: We had a beluga whale story about a year and a
half ago.
John C Dvorak: Beluga whales by the way, the one of the
prettiest animations you imagined very cute, and they
just they have a nice quality about him.
Adam Curry: Do you remember the beluga whale near France? I
think? No. Oh, let me let's just see if the story has anything a
beluga whale which is 2022
Unknown: She usually leaves in Arctic and sub dark sub Arctic
waters has been spotted in the sound river heading toward
Paris. Now that's a spy whale right there. Man protected
species is 1000s of miles away from its habitat but it's not
the first whale that's mysteriously ended up in the
scent. And VR Paris correspondent Eleanor Beardsley
reports sounds to
Adam Curry: me like there's a spy ring of beluga whales we
haven't. We haven't been been aware of
Unknown: you'll know from Ceylon CUSUM. The multiple layer
like a Phantom is the incursion of the polar world into the
troubled waters of the sense as this French television news
report showing the white beluga whales swimming slowly through
the rivers dark waters. Patrick Erivo was one of the
firefighters who filmed the whale with a drone sits under
the key it does see you unless you know cube long. It's an
impressive animal
you eat up all white. That seems very tranquil.
He doesn't seem stressed.
Adam Curry: He comes up for air regularly because he's a spy.
Unknown: but authorities say the whale is stressed and fleeing
any contact. It's normal habitat is off Norway, Russia or Canada.
Emmanuel Pesco VL with the Normandy prefecture of police is
in charge of the unit tracking the whale on this boat
Adam Curry: crapped. All right, well, nice spy whale. Your buddy
Claire Daly is mad. She's the Irish show representative in
European MEP, s MEP member of European Parliament. And I guess
she's tired of the Russian stuff.
Unknown: Thanks very much presidents. Tomorrow, the
parliament votes on the second Kenyatta report on foreign
interference, a sprawling, paranoid McCarthy has tracked
stigmatizing whole sections of society and opposition politics
under the specter of Russian interference calling for a
battery of repressive measures. And now here we are discussing
the threat to democracy and the rule of law. Because the Polish
government goes off on a march one against its political
opponents under the guise of exactly the same thing for four
years now. Anytime any old rumor of foreign interference has left
it out of the paranoid imaginations of the security
sector. Think tanks that parading here, day after day, we
roll out the red carpet. We encourage phones and amplify
conspiracy theories about rushing into ference based on
the flimsiest of evidence. And from day one, the left warned
that this is a bad road to go down. Learn from history,
counter intelligence, paranoia, erodes democratic values and the
rule of law. For four years we've been ignored. We've been
slandered. And now for groups to willingly to helpers of the
foreign interference, crusade are crying foul, it's being
abused. It's a trait of fundamental rights. It's a trait
to the rule of law. Well remember where you heard it
first, we don't like to say we told you so. But we teach ESL
CaCO. Black
Adam Curry: man, I like listening to her.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, but what is she talking about here? Well, so
the
Adam Curry: apparently there's Russian influence, you know,
like Donald Trump stuff, Russian influence campaign. They're
their propaganda. There they're, they're infiltrating a European
Parliament. Now they're all freaked out about it.
McCarthyism is on its way. According to Claire,
John C Dvorak: what does she know about McCarthyism was a
phenomenon of the United States in the 50s. Wow, but it is a
reference that's dated and one kind of knows it. I don't know
about that.
Adam Curry: Did you follow Tara read the
John C Dvorak: I didn't know she was in town.
Adam Curry: She's not She is the former staffer for Biden who
said that he sexually
John C Dvorak: became a Russian well
Adam Curry: mind you What's that all about term is defected. I
find that I don't have any clips but she defected they were
bringing that thing back from the Soviet times. About the
John C Dvorak: deaths and other old defected that's not what a
defection means. Of
Adam Curry: course not.
John C Dvorak: But that's a what's his name as a gal.
Russian he didn't defect. Did they say that about
Adam Curry: him? That they might have I don't remember. And of
course we have Snowden. But what's interesting about this,
is that she defected upon invitation of Maria Butina. I
remember Maria Butina. Yeah, the redhead was the other redhead,
not the actual Russian redhead spy. She's the one that had a
romantic relationship with Patrick Byrne, the Overstock CEO
guy, and she she got arrested, she got thrown in jail. And
eventually she pleaded guilty to not registering as a foreign
agent because she wanted to influence the National Rifle
Association, which is kind of a bull crap thing. Half of
Washington DC is a lobbyist that is unregistered. But I find it
interesting because it to me. I mean, I think we both agree that
Russian first of all, no one hates the Russians. It's only
Putin. No one hates the Russians and hot dog boy. But no one's no
one's walk around like, Oh, I hate the Russian scum, Russian
scum. No, no. In fact, Russians and Americans are very similar.
We're very similar values,
John C Dvorak: as if they don't like baseball.
Adam Curry: And Maria Butina was trying to get Russia's, she's
now a member of parliament shouldn't you're trying to get
laws changed, so that Russians could have an equivalent of a
second amendment. So this feels like a signal somehow.
John C Dvorak: But you know, a lot of times you get something
like this, and it's actually an intelligence asset that has been
set up to do this so they can get over there.
Adam Curry: Who, there you go. It's the real, I mean,
John C Dvorak: at the end to let the Biden girl, because it
doesn't make any sense. Otherwise, to me, at least.
Adam Curry: Well, she left because she was asked to testify
against Biden, by Matt gates and a couple of these Republican
dudes. And then she was told, Well, you know, we can't give
you any protection. Yeah, and, you know, Democrats might kill
you. And of course, he was only being used as a political pawn
to make Biden look bad for the upcoming election. So there's
something that just Maria Butina in this tells me that some
intelligent aspect that we're not aware of, there must be
something more to the end.
John C Dvorak: If they're any good at all. We'll never be
aware. In fact, that fact, in fact that we got this close is
phenomenal. Probably. That's it. But I do have Biden supercut of
Biden shouting,
Adam Curry: Oh, nice. Let's play it.
Unknown: My grandpa was named mandro. For Ambrose Finnegan. As
kitchen table I learned by used to say, Hey, Joey, nobody's
better than you, but you're no better than anybody else. Maybe
Scranton and MC Got a little bit of a chip on my shoulder,
worried about whether I can make next month's work mortgage
payment? Well, it is what it is because He was who He is. That's
why it is what it is. You know, remember when he went on, he
decided he was going to convince Bob Woodward What a smart guy he
was. So you want a smart guy. I'll lead an effective strategy
to mobilize true international effort to pressure, isolate and
punish China. Donald care Donald Trump thinks health care. Well,
I'm sick and tired are smart guys. I gotta admit, this is all
within our power. Hang on. The sand every single person
qualified to CUNY college free and if I keep going, you're
gonna freeze your fingers off.
Adam Curry: All right. Another one for the books, your friend.
And I want to point out that you have you identified Taylor Swift
as a as a phenomenon before the world did. You were the first
one that brought her to the show?
John C Dvorak: Yeah. And my basis was the fact that she got
some free airtime on one of the one of the late night 60 minutes
type shows news show. And she was getting promoted, like,
didn't make a lot of sense. And then looking into where we
discovered her father was one of the big vice presidents or big
muckety muck, they use the term at Merrill Lynch and he's the
one who moved the family to Nashville now and she learned
from him and she's become she's a marketing Juggernaut and it's
just beyond me that nobody noticed that you know, this is
all a skate game. She doesn't she's a genius in marketing, but
I don't see that her songs are that interesting. And now we
have this latest which we're going to discuss this latest
scam a marketing scam, which is just beyond me i roller
Adam Curry: Well, what do you know that I don't know? It's not
a marketing thing. Is this a marketing scam?
John C Dvorak: What about the forgotten? Yeah, forgotten
attendance?
Adam Curry: No. Yes. Oh, yes. Yeah, yes. That No, it's taters.
I'm from the BBC and Time Magazine Taylor Swift Fans
report amnesia following amnesia
John C Dvorak: Taylor Swift amnesia. This was reported on
the inside edition. And mainstream media didn't bite on
this edition. Did you have this? Do you have a clip? No, no, I
didn't get it clipped by we used to bite on this. This is
Adam Curry: MK Ultra
John C Dvorak: it was something Yeah, you didn't think about
that. About that. I didn't think it MK she may be MK Ultra for
all
Adam Curry: she's hypnotizing young children and who know that
so they don't remember being done a member anything from the
concert? Except what was put in there? If your child went to a
Taylor Swift concert she's acting weird let us know. I'm
telling you. This is not normal.
John C Dvorak: No, none of this is our show specializes in the
abnormal
Adam Curry: you're telling me that you think this is a
marketing scam? Like go to the show? Don't remember it. How
does that work?
John C Dvorak: No, it's just an attention getter. Okay, oh, I'm
gonna go see if I can forget. I mean, who knows that your fans
are all a bunch of bats.
Adam Curry: Obviously if I can forget Okay, perfect. RFK Jr.
You put it in the newsletter. Did you think this is a takedown
of him? All of a sudden B's Connor
John C Dvorak: stuff
Adam Curry: yeah the Connor stuff. Okay, there's
John C Dvorak: a couple of Connor things going on Connor
claims to bend to Ukraine and fought yes and any story if you
read the story, which I linked to it in the newsletter, the
story and People Magazine. It has two interesting facets to
it. First it he is supposedly married to Cheryl Hines.
Adam Curry: No that's RFK Jr. is married to Cheryl Hines.
John C Dvorak: Oh okay. Well then Cheryl Hines is the Mom Yes
Guy Yes kid correct. And the kid has a an affair. Boys got some
notorious worldwide affair going on with some Brazilian hottie
Oh. And if you look her up because they he suppose he goes
to Ukraine but then turns up in Brazil? This obviously was his
wife. You don't go from Ukraine to Brazil.
Adam Curry: Oh, he was on break from college.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, it's on a break. And then he okay, I
miss I mixed up the Cheryl Hines thing because because it doesn't
make sense with this Brazilian story because if you look and
again is People Magazine, same magazine with his story about
him. And this hottie the singer from a brazilian girl that he's
dating and you're seeing a lot of amigos from Ukraine right to
her is very fishy stories even some people are even wondering
whether he was in Ukraine at all. Hmm. There's something very
fishy about Conor Kennedy.
Adam Curry: So, there was a rally where Robert Kennedy Jr.
said that not only was Connor did Connor go to Ukraine as a
machine gunner, but it's also a Justin righteous war.
Unknown: I want to say that we are in the Ukraine. For all the
right reasons. We are there because we are a good people.
Abraham Lincoln said, America is a great nation because we're a
good nation. And we continue to be good people. And we are there
because of our compassion. The Ukrainian people who have been
brutalized who've been illegally invaded, have shown
extraordinary valor and courage, defending their country and
defending their families, and their beliefs and their
liberties and their independence. Things that
Americans have to admire. My own son Connor, I'm very, very proud
that Connor joined the Foreign Legion and fought in the Ukraine
during the Kharkiv offensive as a machine gunner for Special
Forces Group.
Adam Curry: You know,
John C Dvorak: well, there's a possibility that they're trying
to get Connor on the Kennedy list of people that's going to
you're going to run for office. ARS JQ Jr. is not going to win
anything
Adam Curry: but here's here's how I took it. I took it as a
Kennedy's wife actress Hollywood Hollywood that the only she said
I'm only going to go along with you running the way you run with
you know, your being your anti Vax whatever whatever other
stuff that that you know that we like about him. If you if you
justify the Ukraine situation, and maybe that's why they bring
the Connor thing in. What do you think about that?
John C Dvorak: It may be but I don't think she's got that much
power influence. Ukraine. I think the Ukraine thing is the
following. Connor was gonna run for office because he's a
Kennedy. They all all do. Commerce. He doesn't want to be
a member of the military ever. But he wants to look like a
tough guy. So he's goes and he does this phony baloney gig
which makes him look like a military guy without having to
actually joined the army and served the country. But it still
has a look to at
Adam Curry: least Wow, interesting. So you think this
has some chops? So the whole thing is deployed to get Connor
in future president Connor. Yeah, Kennedy's think that way.
They do have a long game mentality.
John C Dvorak: They have a long game. The guy's buffed So as
he's a good looking guy. To the point he's that he's goofy
Logan, I mean, I shouldn't say good luck is not like a Kennedy.
You know, a gorgeous Kennedy. He's kind of a goofball looking
Kennedy would but you'll grow out of that he'll look like a
cat, regular Kennedy eventually. And then he's got his military
service under his belt. So without having to actually sign
up for anything. Heaven forbid.
Adam Curry: Oh, interesting. Oh, I like that angle. I like that
makes a lot of a lot of sense. Hey, and what is this? What is
the Kosovo why? Why is Kosovo all of a sudden popping up if
you've noticed these stories?
John C Dvorak: Yes, there's a bunch of action going on.
Adam Curry: I have two clips I've seen on CNN CBS first,
Unknown: NATO is sending 700 more troops to Kosovo to help
curb rising tensions in northern towns that comes after 30
peacekeeping soldiers were injured during classes with
ethnic Serb protesters earlier this week of violence broke out
in the region following the installation of ethnic Albanian
mares in Serbian dominated areas. They were elected in a
vote overwhelmingly boycotted by Serbs. Ethnic Albanians make up
over 90% of Kosovo, its population but Serbs in the
North have long demanded the creation of autonomous
municipalities. It's not clear when the extra NATO troops will
arrive though.
Adam Curry: Hold on Stop the presses. Connor Kennedy dated
Taylor Swift
John C Dvorak: No, that's interesting.
Adam Curry: He can't remember all the part of us can't
remember it can't remember it. Can't remember anything that
happened during my dating I Taylor Swift. Here's CNN and
Kosovo.
Unknown: More than 30 NATO peacekeepers injured in clashes
with Serb protesters in northern Kosovo Monday. Among them
several Italians and Hungarians. NATO has condemned the attacks,
saying they were quote totally unexcited Double
Adam Curry: these are NATO troops Gianna un. This is NATO.
This is something this is some this is weird.
Unknown: The peacekeepers known as k four have been present in
this volatile region since 1999. In response to brutal ethnic
cleansing of Albanians, yeah,
Adam Curry: as the Dutch Blue Helmets how that went, that was
real good boys.
Unknown: The latest tension comes after ethnic Serbs
boycotted an election in the northern part of Kosovo in
April, leading to ethnic Albanians governing the region.
Serbia claims the Kosovo government is goading Serbs to
clash with NATO as peacekeepers stand guard inspection today,
whether the protesters here listen could determine whether
relative peace returns to the region, or if Europe has another
conflict on the horizon.
Adam Curry: Another conflict on the horizon, that's what we
need.
John C Dvorak: Well, Albania, Albania should be noted that
Albania and Croatia both join NATO and 2009. So there's a
legitimate reason for NATO being there, but not in 99. No,
because Serbia is not in NATO. Albania wasn't in NATO, then.
No. So what was going on now that would have that would
prompt these NATO troops to go into this NATO thing is out of
control. Yeah. And it's not a country. It's not a government.
Adam Curry: This this is this has to be an alliance has to be
Ukraine related. This something's wrong Ukraine
related as you say, NATO Alliance related. We're being
set up for something here.
John C Dvorak: I'm so sick of these people as best they can.
I'm sick of it. I'm sick. I got one sick of it.
Adam Curry: I got one last clip. Canada is doing something fun.
Unknown: Canada is about to become the first country to
require health warnings printed on individual cigarettes. As Dan
Karpen Chuck reports, the announcement was laid on
Wednesday, which was World note Tobacco Day.
The measure is aimed at raising awareness of the health risks of
tobacco and reducing its usage. The new regulations won't take
effect until the beginning of August and will come in a phased
approach over the next year. Health Ministers only do close
as the warning will reach every person who smokes with messages
including poison in every puff and cigarettes cause cancer.
kingsize cigarettes will be the first to feature the warnings
and will be sold by retailers by the end of July 2024. Officials
say it's part of a strategy to reach a target of less than 5%
tobacco use by 2035. The Canadian Cancer Society and the
Heart and Stroke Foundation, welcome the measures. For NPR
News. I'm
Adam Curry: Dan carpenter back in Toronto. Yeah, I'd like to
remind I'd like to remind us all that research showed in the
Netherlands when they the more horrible, yep, pictures they put
on cigarette packs of diseased lungs and people dying, the more
they sold. This is this is a great marketing promotion.
John C Dvorak: Well, they have a set for one thing in this case.
The ink causes cancer,
Adam Curry: of course, but it doesn't matter. You know if you
can actually be reminded of how horrible this product is when
you're smoking it, poison and every puff. People will buy more
in every This is a known fact. It's a known fact people. That's
marketing for you genius Canada well done. Alright, everybody,
keep your eye out. Keep your eye on your kids. Get my ham radio.
John C Dvorak: Now you're talking That's smart. Yeah, get
them
Adam Curry: ready for field day get them using FTA they'll learn
geography and technology and other fun stuff was good for
most kids don't know geography now. Well, FTA you're learning
it right there on the map. You see how far your signal reached.
We have next on no agenda stream.com We have the
millennial media offensive. All right. Good little show there.
And coming up we've got ACDC his greatest COVID hits. We've got
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hill country here in FEMA Region number six in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry.
John C Dvorak: Bush thing to tyrannical this guy sounds a lot
like go one of these podcasters that lives in Japan.
Adam Curry: I think he is that podcast that lives in Japan.
Well,
John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley. I'm John C.
Dvorak. We'll be
Adam Curry: back on Sunday. Remember us at Devorah
rock.org/na Until then, adios MoPhO to Hui Hui. Such
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John C Dvorak: I'm gonna update share Trump
Adam Curry: because the last time I did it he got all up in
my grill I really mean you were mean
John C Dvorak: it was taking crazy pills
Adam Curry: you're always interested in Jhansi Dvorak.
I said you need to explain it better just chill out a little
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John C Dvorak: day where's everybody?
Adam Curry: Exactly what everyone's talking about?
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