1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,410 John C Dvorak: boots on the ground baby. 2 00:00:01,710 --> 00:00:06,300 Adam Curry: Adam curry Jhansi Devorah Davis 2023 This is your 3 00:00:06,300 --> 00:00:10,290 award winning keep on Aisha media assassination episode 1553 4 00:00:10,380 --> 00:00:16,560 This is no agenda back on the OTG train and broadcasting live 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,810 from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA Region 6 00:00:18,810 --> 00:00:21,630 number six in the morning everybody I'm Adam curry 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,840 John C Dvorak: in from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're all 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:29,010 congratulating Adam on his six Tony nominations. I'm John C. 9 00:00:29,010 --> 00:00:29,550 Dvorak. 10 00:00:33,210 --> 00:00:37,650 Adam Curry: What is this? What what Tony nomina you know, what 11 00:00:37,650 --> 00:00:38,670 are you talking about? Well, ever 12 00:00:38,670 --> 00:00:41,010 John C Dvorak: since you retired the MO facts show that the 13 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:46,560 Broadway play ain't no mo has gotten six Tony nominations 14 00:00:46,590 --> 00:00:49,320 Adam Curry: and the show was not retired yet. We have nine more 15 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:49,920 episodes. 16 00:00:50,160 --> 00:00:53,640 John C Dvorak: Oh eight no mo is something else. I knew you 17 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,940 didn't know this guy Jordan eight Cooper it seems unlikely 18 00:00:57,180 --> 00:00:59,370 Adam Curry: you actually know what the Tony nominations are 19 00:00:59,370 --> 00:01:06,930 the Chinese the Chinese Chinese the Chinese the Chinese I do. Is 20 00:01:08,070 --> 00:01:11,340 any any spectacular nominations except the ain't no mo anything 21 00:01:11,340 --> 00:01:13,950 else? Okay. No mo I think musics 22 00:01:15,030 --> 00:01:17,160 John C Dvorak: the big one I guess there's Some Like It Hot 23 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,380 is going to be the take away a lot of awards. Have 24 00:01:19,380 --> 00:01:21,630 Adam Curry: you seen any of these? Any of them? I haven't 25 00:01:21,630 --> 00:01:23,700 John C Dvorak: been in New York to did last season, so I didn't 26 00:01:23,700 --> 00:01:28,140 see any of them. i Who wants to go to New York by got me 27 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,630 standing in the subway tracks. 28 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,580 Adam Curry: Tina's going to New York to visit with her daughter 29 00:01:35,610 --> 00:01:36,780 from Mother's Day. 30 00:01:37,230 --> 00:01:38,640 John C Dvorak: Oh, that should be rich. 31 00:01:40,860 --> 00:01:42,030 Unknown: That's supposed to me. 32 00:01:43,380 --> 00:01:45,780 Adam Curry: I don't really wanna know. I don't know. But to be 33 00:01:45,780 --> 00:01:48,360 honest, she's a little you know, she's a little a little anxious 34 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:52,830 about it. By the way as an adult so the most for life in Chicago. 35 00:01:52,980 --> 00:01:55,080 Because what do you what do you see about New York? Nothing but 36 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:59,400 exactly what you said crap. That's true. People. You know, 37 00:02:00,390 --> 00:02:04,230 John C Dvorak: Chicago, I become minuses. You must be joining the 38 00:02:04,230 --> 00:02:08,910 two cities sister cities. Yeah. Yeah. Now this is not like a 39 00:02:08,910 --> 00:02:11,370 problem. It's you know, you just go there and you just put up 40 00:02:11,370 --> 00:02:11,730 with it. 41 00:02:12,300 --> 00:02:13,050 Unknown: I know. I 42 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:13,950 John C Dvorak: we think it's like the 43 00:02:13,950 --> 00:02:16,980 Adam Curry: old days. We got knights everywhere, looking out 44 00:02:16,980 --> 00:02:20,670 for Meigs, all these all the all the gangsters of New York are 45 00:02:20,670 --> 00:02:25,170 looking out for wishes while Dominican gangsters everybody. 46 00:02:25,860 --> 00:02:31,470 No agenda. No agenda. Nation is badass. got great people. I had 47 00:02:31,470 --> 00:02:33,930 a wedding yesterday. So unfortunately, I couldn't see we 48 00:02:33,930 --> 00:02:38,670 got married again. I know. A friend of ours daughter got 49 00:02:38,670 --> 00:02:42,600 married. And so unfortunately, I couldn't watch all of the 50 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:47,760 fabulous Proceedings of the coronation. Which I know it was 51 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,030 a lifetime event. There was nothing to record but I do have 52 00:02:51,030 --> 00:02:52,320 some comments. Oh, I 53 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,020 John C Dvorak: have some clips actually. Okay, we use our 54 00:02:55,020 --> 00:02:58,110 clips. All my comment is basically they had all these 55 00:02:58,110 --> 00:03:01,200 marching soldiers and the guys who did read costumes and the 56 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:06,510 big hairy hats and regular soldiers. The Harrier were all 57 00:03:06,510 --> 00:03:10,890 out of step and out of line and you're expected to be that I saw 58 00:03:10,890 --> 00:03:13,920 some of the things was unbelievably bad. I mean, I was 59 00:03:14,250 --> 00:03:17,760 like I flipped over from, you know, China TV where they're 60 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:22,710 just lockstep perfect to these guys wandering around. It was 61 00:03:22,710 --> 00:03:23,850 just pathetic. 62 00:03:23,970 --> 00:03:26,340 Adam Curry: I don't know if it was that bad. I did notice a 63 00:03:26,340 --> 00:03:30,660 couple of guys out pretty bad. I have a highlight supercut 64 00:03:32,910 --> 00:03:38,400 Unknown: God of compassion and whose son was sent not to be 65 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:39,870 served but to serve. 66 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,250 God save the King 67 00:03:55,980 --> 00:03:59,550 William, Prince of Wales, pledged my loyalty to you, and 68 00:03:59,550 --> 00:04:03,630 faith and truth I will bear on to you as your lead man of life 69 00:04:03,660 --> 00:04:05,340 and limb. So help me God 70 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:14,550 received this ring, a symbol of royal dignity and a sign of the 71 00:04:14,550 --> 00:04:16,170 covenant Swan this day. 72 00:04:27,570 --> 00:04:32,250 Drunks to die may be a blessing to all the children of every 73 00:04:32,250 --> 00:04:38,040 faith and belief that together we may discover the ways of 74 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:42,600 gentleness and be led into the paths of peace. 75 00:04:44,430 --> 00:04:47,220 Adam Curry: So people kept sending me this this one 76 00:04:47,220 --> 00:04:54,690 particular clip and I don't know if it's fake or or if we're just 77 00:04:54,690 --> 00:04:57,300 hearing it wrong. Listen to this. This is when their work 78 00:04:57,300 --> 00:05:00,360 walking into Westminster Abbey into the into the church Shut 79 00:05:19,830 --> 00:05:23,400 up What do you hear them singing? 80 00:05:24,570 --> 00:05:26,190 John C Dvorak: I can understand a word of it. 81 00:05:26,490 --> 00:05:31,200 Adam Curry: Well I mean, it seems it seems that it must be 82 00:05:33,210 --> 00:05:38,190 singing. I like vagina Camilla it that can't be right. But if 83 00:05:38,190 --> 00:05:38,760 you if you 84 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:40,830 John C Dvorak: think it can't be right, 85 00:05:41,729 --> 00:05:43,949 Adam Curry: but now that you've heard it, you can't unhear it. 86 00:05:43,949 --> 00:05:44,909 That's the point. 87 00:05:45,630 --> 00:05:46,470 John C Dvorak: Okay, play it again. 88 00:05:47,010 --> 00:05:49,050 Adam Curry: I'm playing it directly from a YouTube because 89 00:05:49,050 --> 00:05:52,500 I forgot the clip and just remembered. I liked the preamble 90 00:05:52,500 --> 00:05:56,310 was great though. The dynamite band. Here we go 91 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,710 someone's got to set a straight on what the room 92 00:06:10,710 --> 00:06:13,860 John C Dvorak: looks like silence Regina. I don't hear the 93 00:06:13,860 --> 00:06:14,550 V. 94 00:06:14,580 --> 00:06:16,680 Adam Curry: Well, when the words are on the screen, your brain 95 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:17,340 goes Oh, yeah, 96 00:06:17,370 --> 00:06:19,320 John C Dvorak: well, yeah, the words are on the screen. 97 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:26,280 Adam Curry: By us vagina, I don't know. I'd like to know is 98 00:06:26,280 --> 00:06:29,670 I'm sure it's Latin or something that we that just our ears 99 00:06:29,670 --> 00:06:30,360 aren't attuned 100 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,450 John C Dvorak: to this cute tote. To catch. So 101 00:06:33,990 --> 00:06:37,290 Adam Curry: you know, of course, the M five M was out in droves. 102 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:42,120 They ended up did ABC free trip? Well, I don't know if all of 103 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,700 them were actually out there at all. You have to turn your 104 00:06:44,700 --> 00:06:46,470 speakers down just a little because people are complaining 105 00:06:46,470 --> 00:06:49,740 about it now. Because hey, people stop complaining. 106 00:06:51,210 --> 00:06:54,090 Unknown: The coronation concert takes place in Windsor. It's 107 00:06:54,090 --> 00:06:55,830 going to be right outside the castle. There's going to be a 108 00:06:55,830 --> 00:07:04,290 Union Jack shaped stage and some big stars performing. No doubt 109 00:07:04,290 --> 00:07:08,340 about it. Lionel Richie will be dancing this weekend. A longtime 110 00:07:08,340 --> 00:07:10,620 friend of King Charles and Chairman for the global. 111 00:07:10,950 --> 00:07:13,350 Adam Curry: Lionel Richie. Anybody can get him for your 112 00:07:13,350 --> 00:07:17,730 birthday. Yeah, I think he charges 200 grand. But you know, 113 00:07:17,730 --> 00:07:20,430 there's lots of people get Lionel Richie. Get him. I 114 00:07:20,430 --> 00:07:21,360 John C Dvorak: can't afford that. 115 00:07:21,419 --> 00:07:24,119 Adam Curry: I know. But it's not like oh, this is so special. 116 00:07:24,119 --> 00:07:27,869 Lionel Richie is performing at the at the coronation, who he 117 00:07:27,869 --> 00:07:31,229 never performs. No, he's everywhere. Every weekend. The 118 00:07:31,229 --> 00:07:36,599 guy just rakes it in. Right? He doesn't like 45 minutes. Now he 119 00:07:36,599 --> 00:07:39,239 does dancing on the ceiling and the pillow and then you know 120 00:07:39,239 --> 00:07:41,909 he's good to go. And then his dancing on the ceiling again. 121 00:07:42,239 --> 00:07:44,399 And there was dancing in the aisles. It's beautiful. And 122 00:07:44,399 --> 00:07:44,879 Chairman 123 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,550 Unknown: for the milk it Yes. Oh good on 124 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,490 ambassadors of the Prince's Trust is set to perform center 125 00:07:50,490 --> 00:07:51,030 stage on 126 00:07:51,510 --> 00:07:53,640 Adam Curry: when Lionel Richie was cheating on his wife and she 127 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:57,120 found out she walked in on him and then she beat him naked all 128 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:58,140 the way down the street. 129 00:07:59,970 --> 00:08:01,950 John C Dvorak: And when that story I forgot about I 130 00:08:03,450 --> 00:08:04,980 Adam Curry: just wanted to give everyone that visual for a 131 00:08:04,980 --> 00:08:08,370 moment someday. This is history. We've known each other for a 132 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,170 very long time. Richie is also 133 00:08:10,170 --> 00:08:13,260 Unknown: part of the exclusive guestlist to the coronation at 134 00:08:13,260 --> 00:08:14,220 Westminster Abbey. 135 00:08:14,460 --> 00:08:18,930 I plan on showing I'm just going to walk down and every once in a 136 00:08:18,930 --> 00:08:21,990 while they'll tell me Mr. Richie just get out of the aisle. The 137 00:08:21,990 --> 00:08:26,190 King has. I mean, this is just a moment. The parents have 138 00:08:26,190 --> 00:08:30,090 announced a few later editions. Get out of the aisle Richie 139 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:35,190 Cruz, Nicole Scherzinger. Oh Tom Cruise wrote a few later 140 00:08:35,190 --> 00:08:37,350 editions with Tom Cruise. 141 00:08:38,100 --> 00:08:41,010 John C Dvorak: Tom Cruise in his busy busy schedule. He can go 142 00:08:41,010 --> 00:08:42,990 welcome Joe Biden can't go no, I 143 00:08:42,990 --> 00:08:43,830 Adam Curry: have an answer for that 144 00:08:43,860 --> 00:08:48,420 Unknown: later editions with Tom Cruise. Nicole Scherzinger we've 145 00:08:48,420 --> 00:08:53,220 got Winnie the Pooh joining zone slash China Beijing ping. We've 146 00:08:53,220 --> 00:08:56,610 got Winnie the Pooh joining for his own skates is almost 147 00:08:56,610 --> 00:08:59,400 reminiscent of some of those magic moments we saw during the 148 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,520 Platinum Jubilee. I think Charles is hoping that it'll 149 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,380 bring some magic to his moment too. 150 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,660 Adam Curry: Dead man walk I gave him two years ago this was this 151 00:09:09,660 --> 00:09:14,550 was just a dress rehearsal for for William and Kate. And, you 152 00:09:14,550 --> 00:09:14,790 know, 153 00:09:14,790 --> 00:09:17,040 John C Dvorak: I have the same sense of this. Yeah, 154 00:09:17,220 --> 00:09:19,350 Adam Curry: it feels like this is just a preamble to the real 155 00:09:19,350 --> 00:09:23,610 great reset. And I don't want to be morbid about it. But I can't 156 00:09:23,610 --> 00:09:26,010 help but think that it's like, you know, this guy aids. They 157 00:09:26,010 --> 00:09:30,270 just gave it to him because he waited so long. And we needed to 158 00:09:30,270 --> 00:09:33,270 practice because when Will and Kate when they take the throne. 159 00:09:33,420 --> 00:09:37,470 It's going to be it's not going to be not my king. People will 160 00:09:37,470 --> 00:09:44,280 love that. We'll have a new new lady die era in a way. Anyway, 161 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,060 why did Joe Biden our president now Joe Biden was there she 162 00:09:48,060 --> 00:09:49,170 showed up by blood that 163 00:09:49,170 --> 00:09:54,630 John C Dvorak: means the President was there. A good one. 164 00:09:54,900 --> 00:09:57,990 Unknown: Questions about why President Biden is not in 165 00:09:57,990 --> 00:10:01,860 attendance himself. He was asked overnight by our Stephanie rule, 166 00:10:01,890 --> 00:10:03,060 here's what he had to say. 167 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,450 You did not go to England this weekend for the coronation? 168 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,750 No, I didn't. But I did speak to the king. We're going to be 169 00:10:09,750 --> 00:10:14,610 going to a NATO conference in Europe. And I told him I'd stop 170 00:10:14,610 --> 00:10:16,740 you there on the way over there on the way back, 171 00:10:16,890 --> 00:10:17,850 John C Dvorak: how stop in 172 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,810 Adam Curry: how rude is that? I can't come to your party of the 173 00:10:21,810 --> 00:10:25,560 century. And by the way, I heard Lionel Richie is performing. But 174 00:10:25,770 --> 00:10:28,470 I wish I could. But I had him at my birthday party. So 175 00:10:28,470 --> 00:10:30,870 John C Dvorak: I stopped by another trip. 176 00:10:30,900 --> 00:10:33,390 Adam Curry: I'm maybe on the way back, you know, I hit you on the 177 00:10:33,390 --> 00:10:38,910 rebound, Chuck. That is so insulting really is if I was 178 00:10:38,910 --> 00:10:41,040 just listened to us as humans Say that again. I mean, what 179 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,610 happened to our special relationship? Now, are we 180 00:10:44,610 --> 00:10:49,260 supposed to have a special relationship with the UK? Yeah, 181 00:10:49,350 --> 00:10:49,980 it's over. 182 00:10:50,100 --> 00:10:52,860 Unknown: But I did speak to the king, we're gonna be going to 183 00:10:52,890 --> 00:10:57,180 NATO conference in Europe. And I told him I'd stop you there on 184 00:10:57,180 --> 00:10:58,890 the way there and the way back 185 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:00,960 Adam Curry: depends on my timing, you know, I got stuff to 186 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,270 do very important things to do this customer 187 00:11:03,270 --> 00:11:04,650 Unknown: he really is passionate about 188 00:11:04,650 --> 00:11:08,070 the environment. So there you have President Biden explaining 189 00:11:08,070 --> 00:11:11,100 why he's not there. And Savannah, all eyes will be on 190 00:11:11,100 --> 00:11:15,390 that meeting that visit that we expect the President to have. 191 00:11:15,390 --> 00:11:18,720 And one of the key themes and passions that they share is 192 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,910 their passion for the environment in Savannah. 193 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,550 Adam Curry: Oh, yes, Joe Biden's passion for the environment. 194 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,850 Lady and then of course we had the royal rift you know what's 195 00:11:29,850 --> 00:11:34,350 gonna happen with that? Would Harry show up he do. Songs may 196 00:11:34,350 --> 00:11:38,040 go home. And you know, of course they all came out on the balcony 197 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,950 and who's gonna stand where and all these important things. 198 00:11:40,980 --> 00:11:43,470 Unknown: A lot of news that we were falling but we again this 199 00:11:43,470 --> 00:11:46,980 happened Good News New whose lot of news that we were falling but 200 00:11:46,980 --> 00:11:51,090 we do begin this half hour with a closer look at the Royal rift 201 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,780 coronation day Prince very attending his father ceremony 202 00:11:54,780 --> 00:11:59,430 but relegated to the spectator role. ABCs Lama Hassan has more 203 00:11:59,460 --> 00:12:00,060 more Lama 204 00:12:00,300 --> 00:12:03,480 this morning all eyes on these two brothers supporting their 205 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,050 father, the newly unofficially minted King William and Harry 206 00:12:07,050 --> 00:12:10,380 reuniting publicly for the first time since the late Queen's 207 00:12:10,380 --> 00:12:13,800 funeral during the ceremony playing very different roles. 208 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,640 William now the first in line to the throne playing a big part, 209 00:12:17,970 --> 00:12:21,240 presenting the king with the royal robes and paying homage to 210 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,510 him a flying visit for the prince who came on his own. His 211 00:12:24,510 --> 00:12:27,930 wife Megan stayed at home to be with their kids, Harry attending 212 00:12:27,930 --> 00:12:30,930 the coronation service before choosing not to have rocks and 213 00:12:30,930 --> 00:12:34,530 bottles thrown out or their kids Harry attending the coronation 214 00:12:34,530 --> 00:12:38,100 service before jetting off back to California to be with his own 215 00:12:38,100 --> 00:12:41,520 family, making it in time for his son Archie's fourth 216 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:42,240 birthday. 217 00:12:42,300 --> 00:12:44,910 The fact that she's not coming to the coronation, I think it's 218 00:12:44,910 --> 00:12:47,640 probably a bit of a relief to some of the other members of the 219 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,210 family. They won't say that but I'm sure it will be such 220 00:12:55,650 --> 00:12:58,200 Adam Curry: as the marbles in the mouth. Of course not 221 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,080 everybody was happy then if you weren't happy you got arrested 222 00:13:01,110 --> 00:13:04,170 Unknown: 1000s of people lining the streets of London to try to 223 00:13:04,170 --> 00:13:07,260 catch a glimpse of King Charles and Queen Camilla on their 224 00:13:07,260 --> 00:13:10,890 coronation day. But not everybody was happy about the 225 00:13:10,890 --> 00:13:14,340 event. There were anti monarchy demonstrations in some British 226 00:13:14,340 --> 00:13:18,300 cities. In London several 100 protesters in Trafalgar Square 227 00:13:18,330 --> 00:13:22,290 booed repeatedly during the coronation service as it relates 228 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:22,950 to crowds. 229 00:13:31,350 --> 00:13:34,980 Professors also chanted slogans including not my king. 230 00:13:41,370 --> 00:13:42,810 Adam Curry: No justice, no peace. 231 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,110 Unknown: No video footage showed several protesters dressed in T 232 00:13:46,110 --> 00:13:50,190 shirts emblazoned with those words, not my king being 233 00:13:50,340 --> 00:13:52,320 detained by police officers. 234 00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:54,510 Adam Curry: Now this was kind of interesting. The these were 235 00:13:54,510 --> 00:13:58,530 professional, professionally printed T shirts, yellow, and 236 00:13:58,530 --> 00:14:02,310 professionally printed signs made to look like they were hand 237 00:14:02,310 --> 00:14:06,780 drawn. I did a little examination. And they were all 238 00:14:07,290 --> 00:14:11,010 paid for by labor by the Labour Party 239 00:14:12,090 --> 00:14:13,980 John C Dvorak: or the Labour Party's got the upper hand I do 240 00:14:13,980 --> 00:14:18,510 have a clip of the results of the local elections which is 241 00:14:18,510 --> 00:14:19,470 hurting labor. 242 00:14:19,500 --> 00:14:21,900 Adam Curry: And there were some problems with that too. There 243 00:14:21,900 --> 00:14:25,350 were people couldn't vote. There were irregularities. Let's put 244 00:14:25,350 --> 00:14:25,410 it 245 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,260 John C Dvorak: away anytime that the labor side of things takes 246 00:14:28,260 --> 00:14:28,890 over there. 247 00:14:29,550 --> 00:14:32,460 Adam Curry: irregularities happen. All right, here's, oh, 248 00:14:32,460 --> 00:14:35,760 it's one of our favorites. This is in D 249 00:14:35,819 --> 00:14:38,039 Unknown: the British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak 250 00:14:38,039 --> 00:14:41,369 Conservative Party is facing a bleak set of local election 251 00:14:41,369 --> 00:14:45,209 results today. Voters turn away from his party amid surging 252 00:14:45,209 --> 00:14:48,029 inflation and stagnant economic growth. 253 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,550 But what I am going to carry on doing is delivering on the 254 00:14:50,550 --> 00:14:53,910 people's priorities. Having inflation growing the economy 255 00:14:53,910 --> 00:14:56,460 reducing debt cutting waiting list and stopping the boats. 256 00:14:56,580 --> 00:14:58,410 That's what people want us to do. That's what I'm going to 257 00:14:58,410 --> 00:14:59,370 keep doing 258 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,880 Adam Curry: Making the vote either that or stopping the boat 259 00:15:02,910 --> 00:15:04,470 what sounded like stopping the vote 260 00:15:04,620 --> 00:15:07,380 Unknown: is delivering on the people's priorities. Having 261 00:15:07,380 --> 00:15:10,200 inflation growing the economy reducing debt cutting waiting 262 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,450 list and stopping the boats. That's what people want us to 263 00:15:12,450 --> 00:15:13,260 do. That's stopping the 264 00:15:13,260 --> 00:15:15,870 Adam Curry: boats, stopping the boats, the boats with the 265 00:15:15,870 --> 00:15:18,660 immigrants stopping the boats. That's what people want. They 266 00:15:18,660 --> 00:15:19,710 don't want to stop the boat and 267 00:15:19,710 --> 00:15:21,660 Unknown: the boats. That's what people want us to do. That's 268 00:15:21,660 --> 00:15:22,650 what I'm gonna keep hard to 269 00:15:22,650 --> 00:15:28,410 do. And make no mistake. We are on course for a labour majority 270 00:15:28,500 --> 00:15:30,000 at the next general election. 271 00:15:32,010 --> 00:15:35,460 The results show the conservative net loss of about 272 00:15:35,460 --> 00:15:39,090 460 seats Wow. The main opposition Labour Party added 273 00:15:39,090 --> 00:15:43,530 about 260 seats and the Liberal Democrats gained about 140 274 00:15:43,530 --> 00:15:47,760 seats. Sunak said local elections results so far showed 275 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,640 that people wanted his ruling party to deliver on their 276 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,870 priorities. opposition Labour Party leaders cure Sturmer says 277 00:15:54,870 --> 00:15:58,110 the Labour Party is on course for a majority at the next 278 00:15:58,110 --> 00:16:01,830 general election. He describes tonight's party as the problem, 279 00:16:01,890 --> 00:16:02,850 not the solution. 280 00:16:04,260 --> 00:16:06,060 John C Dvorak: Yeah, they're out. 281 00:16:06,420 --> 00:16:11,070 Adam Curry: So there were a couple of interesting people at 282 00:16:11,070 --> 00:16:15,390 the stunner of of the coronation was Penny MorDaunt MorDaunt 283 00:16:15,540 --> 00:16:19,230 Penny MorDaunt. I'm not quite sure how to pronounce it. She 284 00:16:19,260 --> 00:16:24,810 now she was Liz trust as leader of the House of Commons. And I'm 285 00:16:24,810 --> 00:16:29,550 not quite sure what her position is now but she got to carry I 286 00:16:29,550 --> 00:16:33,870 guess she's the president of the Privy Council. The Privy Council 287 00:16:34,950 --> 00:16:36,630 John C Dvorak: which we've talked about the Privy Council 288 00:16:36,630 --> 00:16:40,650 before Privy Council again this eventually is a drinking club 289 00:16:40,650 --> 00:16:43,800 now Can't you guys into was the EVO meeting everyone's 290 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:44,550 underwhelming? Well, 291 00:16:44,550 --> 00:16:47,490 Adam Curry: she got the she got to carry the sword King Charles 292 00:16:47,490 --> 00:16:51,510 is priceless sword made for George the fourth 1821 293 00:16:51,510 --> 00:16:53,910 coronation, but it was what she was wearing. 294 00:16:54,330 --> 00:16:56,400 John C Dvorak: I think he's got the world's biggest diamond in 295 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:56,610 it. 296 00:16:57,570 --> 00:16:59,400 Adam Curry: Is that in the shorter I know that? 297 00:16:59,430 --> 00:17:01,980 John C Dvorak: I think it's in his TED tip of the sword. I 298 00:17:02,010 --> 00:17:05,010 watch one hold KQED special and all the jewels. 299 00:17:05,010 --> 00:17:07,560 Adam Curry: Yeah, I know Africa wants their diamond back. 300 00:17:09,120 --> 00:17:10,230 Something someone in 301 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,780 John C Dvorak: Africa that everybody wants stuff back. 302 00:17:12,780 --> 00:17:13,050 Yeah. 303 00:17:13,619 --> 00:17:16,499 Adam Curry: Anyway, so she she's wearing this blue outfit, which 304 00:17:16,499 --> 00:17:23,279 was I mean, it really showcase her ample bosom. I'm just 305 00:17:23,309 --> 00:17:26,189 reading was one way of putting it and reading what the British 306 00:17:26,189 --> 00:17:27,179 press is saying but 307 00:17:30,030 --> 00:17:31,560 John C Dvorak: we got to start using that term. 308 00:17:33,360 --> 00:17:36,360 Adam Curry: So Shocking. Shocking. I tell you, there was 309 00:17:36,360 --> 00:17:40,830 a couple of observations want that? I'm sure I'm sure that 310 00:17:40,890 --> 00:17:45,330 it's that these colors are are meant to be. But did you notice 311 00:17:45,330 --> 00:17:50,880 that the floor of Westminster that yellow and blue which 312 00:17:50,910 --> 00:17:56,580 whether it's intended or not is subliminal for Ukraine? was kind 313 00:17:56,580 --> 00:17:59,130 of odd. I don't know why the yellow and blue I didn't look 314 00:17:59,130 --> 00:18:01,800 into it. But I couldn't help another day 315 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,560 John C Dvorak: clean the thing recently to an extreme to get 316 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,120 all the colors back up. 317 00:18:07,140 --> 00:18:10,050 Adam Curry: But are those are those two carpets there? I mean, 318 00:18:10,050 --> 00:18:12,600 is that is that the color carpet for the day? Have 319 00:18:12,630 --> 00:18:14,010 John C Dvorak: you thought it was the tiles? 320 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:19,770 Adam Curry: I thought it was carpet will be yellow and it 321 00:18:19,770 --> 00:18:23,220 must be it must signify something the blue of the ample 322 00:18:23,220 --> 00:18:26,580 bosom lady had the blue your coronation carpet rose resembles 323 00:18:26,580 --> 00:18:30,480 Ukrainian flag this is from the telegraph. Some of oh I'm not 324 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:34,590 alone. Oh, this was the theme some of the guests including us 325 00:18:34,590 --> 00:18:37,500 first lady Joe Biden also wore yellow and blue as they arrived. 326 00:18:38,130 --> 00:18:41,370 John C Dvorak: Ah, it's a setup. It sure sounds 327 00:18:41,370 --> 00:18:46,140 Adam Curry: like it stinks. I don't know if that was if that's 328 00:18:46,890 --> 00:18:50,160 That's very odd. I don't see any any other reason for it. That is 329 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,580 head yellow and blue carpets and everyone's remarking 330 00:18:53,580 --> 00:18:55,590 John C Dvorak: they're celebrating Sweden. 331 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,990 Adam Curry: Doubtful. And then and one of the others several 332 00:19:00,990 --> 00:19:03,270 people pointed out to me is the ghoulish figure 333 00:19:03,300 --> 00:19:06,270 John C Dvorak: Oh, it couldn't be the rug is from IKEA. Yeah. 334 00:19:07,650 --> 00:19:09,210 Unknown: Yes, sorry. Yeah, that 335 00:19:09,360 --> 00:19:11,160 Adam Curry: was like that. That's three sided thing they 336 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:15,060 had to put together from Ikea as well. You know, the that hides 337 00:19:15,060 --> 00:19:18,420 the chair or whatever. Are the secret stuff that Charles is 338 00:19:18,420 --> 00:19:23,730 doing behind it. Did you see the hooded ghoul? No, I did 339 00:19:23,730 --> 00:19:25,890 John C Dvorak: not see the hooded ghoul. You've gotta look 340 00:19:25,890 --> 00:19:27,960 it up. Was it so Zelinsky was there. 341 00:19:28,469 --> 00:19:31,379 Adam Curry: So all of a sudden you see behind the arch as 342 00:19:31,379 --> 00:19:34,319 people have already come through the arch you see? Almost like 343 00:19:35,639 --> 00:19:40,949 what's the guy with the with the with the death? 344 00:19:41,670 --> 00:19:42,810 John C Dvorak: The Grim Reaper, 345 00:19:42,810 --> 00:19:46,380 Adam Curry: Grim Reaper thank you that guy. He's a hooded 346 00:19:46,380 --> 00:19:50,460 ghoul, just like the Grim Reaper with a long cane. Like in front 347 00:19:50,460 --> 00:19:52,680 of him and just like walks from one side of the arch to the 348 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:57,840 other. It was very odd. I mean, I maybe it was a janitorial 349 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:02,280 service, but it was was it was it was injured? You should look 350 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,530 that up, but I put it in the in the show notes. It's very 351 00:20:04,530 --> 00:20:09,960 interesting to see the hooded ghoul hooded ghoul. Yeah. So I 352 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:14,460 think that's kind of kind of all that we had to say. I think we 353 00:20:14,460 --> 00:20:19,320 covered it. Yeah, pretty much I'm, I'm happy for for King 354 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,050 Charles, you know, but it's still it's so the whole thing is 355 00:20:22,050 --> 00:20:25,890 so odd. It's really, really strange justice 356 00:20:25,890 --> 00:20:28,560 John C Dvorak: to the interesting tweets. I've made 357 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,040 this observation. They had they spent a lot of time on these 358 00:20:32,070 --> 00:20:34,500 different overnight channels that were playing this thing 359 00:20:34,500 --> 00:20:40,380 live. And they had a lot of trying to humanize him. And they 360 00:20:40,380 --> 00:20:43,260 went out of their way to humanize him. He was a comedian 361 00:20:43,260 --> 00:20:45,810 and he did a bunch of jokes when he was young, high school, he 362 00:20:45,810 --> 00:20:49,680 was in a play when he could have been an actor. Sure. And you go 363 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,620 on and on with all his humanization and I'm thinking 364 00:20:53,070 --> 00:20:57,720 when did they ever start? Isn't the idea of a monarch and that 365 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:02,430 whole kind of thing is something that's that's Supra Cumin is not 366 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,910 above human yes above, above human, it's not you're not 367 00:21:05,910 --> 00:21:08,550 supposed to humanize them and bring him down to the level of 368 00:21:08,550 --> 00:21:10,530 the of the of the people. 369 00:21:11,340 --> 00:21:15,600 Adam Curry: Yes, I think you're right. He also becomes the the 370 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,320 head of the Church of England, which I think is supposed to 371 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,840 supersede the pope somehow. Your net blood 372 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,190 John C Dvorak: in England. Yeah, in England, 373 00:21:23,220 --> 00:21:24,480 Adam Curry: exactly. In England. 374 00:21:25,650 --> 00:21:29,910 John C Dvorak: So I find that peculiar, because it seems that 375 00:21:29,910 --> 00:21:33,990 you don't you want to make him rise above not, Brett drag him 376 00:21:33,990 --> 00:21:36,060 down and they were doing everything they could. And it 377 00:21:36,060 --> 00:21:39,990 seemed as though is that PR woman? That PR woman who is 378 00:21:39,990 --> 00:21:42,510 trying to get to you know, he's a man of the people. He 379 00:21:42,510 --> 00:21:46,860 understands the poor lab, bla bla bla boss bullcrap. And when 380 00:21:46,860 --> 00:21:51,270 I think that if you're going to be in a monarchy system, you 381 00:21:51,270 --> 00:21:55,890 don't want to degrade your monarch. No, but once you push 382 00:21:55,890 --> 00:21:57,840 him in the other direction, I don't get it. 383 00:21:57,930 --> 00:21:59,580 Adam Curry: Well, you're supposed to go the other way. 384 00:21:59,580 --> 00:22:03,600 You're supposed to be awesome, like the queen. And then and 385 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,210 then then you put on your wellies and you go out in the 386 00:22:06,210 --> 00:22:08,820 flood. And then you are 387 00:22:09,990 --> 00:22:12,540 John C Dvorak: dead baffles me. Why would you want that? I don't 388 00:22:12,540 --> 00:22:17,370 want my king in the flood. That's that's the British thing. 389 00:22:17,370 --> 00:22:20,070 He just got washed away. What was he doing there? What an 390 00:22:20,070 --> 00:22:20,610 idiot. 391 00:22:24,090 --> 00:22:25,860 Adam Curry: You know, there are I'm sure we have some listeners 392 00:22:25,860 --> 00:22:28,890 who actually like this stuff. You know, 393 00:22:28,890 --> 00:22:31,350 John C Dvorak: there are more anarchist type people. And I 394 00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:35,370 would like them to explain to me my complaint, which is why are 395 00:22:35,370 --> 00:22:39,030 they trying to drag the king down to the level of the of the 396 00:22:39,030 --> 00:22:42,690 impoverished? He's a king. He's moody and he should be above it 397 00:22:42,690 --> 00:22:47,730 all. It should be seen as, you know, a Supra. The good word 398 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:48,600 human. 399 00:22:49,590 --> 00:22:52,230 Adam Curry: Yeah, I'm with you. I don't know. I mean, usually 400 00:22:52,230 --> 00:22:56,730 they do that after a while, you know, but again, I'm sorry. I 401 00:22:56,730 --> 00:23:00,750 just don't feel like this is gonna last very long. I just 402 00:23:00,750 --> 00:23:03,870 don't feel like it's gonna last long for Charles. VO William and 403 00:23:03,870 --> 00:23:07,680 Kate. They be even I would watch William and Kate's coronation 404 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,140 you have that'll be that'd be fun. Then you're gonna have all 405 00:23:10,140 --> 00:23:14,220 of Hollywood coming. You know it. That'll be a super party. 406 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,370 Lionel Richie gets back seat for that, you know, we bring out the 407 00:23:17,370 --> 00:23:19,380 hot people, the new ones, the big stars. 408 00:23:21,810 --> 00:23:23,130 John C Dvorak: The big stars like Lizzo. 409 00:23:24,660 --> 00:23:28,020 Adam Curry: Boy, you're on a roll today. And I want to talk 410 00:23:28,020 --> 00:23:30,660 about Ukraine and Russia because there's a lot going on there. 411 00:23:30,660 --> 00:23:35,400 And we have an ongoing discussion over the future of 412 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,520 the war. I am of the opinion that the war is ending. We need 413 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:43,140 to stop this as soon as possible and focus all of our purchasing 414 00:23:43,140 --> 00:23:47,100 and sales, mainly sales, although Military Industrial 415 00:23:47,100 --> 00:23:51,120 Complex likes to sell to us to the people so we buy it. But 416 00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:54,780 also to Taiwan. They just recently had a big sale there. A 417 00:23:54,930 --> 00:23:59,430 was a pre sale, a trunk sale, when we sold them some f6 teens 418 00:23:59,430 --> 00:24:02,280 the biggest sale so far of the year, and that's where that's 419 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,390 where all the big money is. And you believe with some merit, I 420 00:24:06,390 --> 00:24:11,700 will say not completely baseless that Joe Biden will do anything 421 00:24:11,700 --> 00:24:15,390 he can to get boots on the ground to secure his presidency, 422 00:24:15,390 --> 00:24:19,170 which he has now announced or he's running for. For President 423 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,630 again. He's announced it announced. 424 00:24:21,900 --> 00:24:23,760 John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, he knows he knows and that was a 425 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,730 video that crappy video that was he couldn't even get through it. 426 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,130 Now. They cut it and cut it in Kaduna. When they said it was 427 00:24:29,130 --> 00:24:32,850 like 100 cuts. Death by 100. Cuts. 428 00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:36,840 Adam Curry: Yeah. Do you have a clip of that? No, we 429 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,060 John C Dvorak: played it already on the show. No. Okay. 430 00:24:39,660 --> 00:24:41,670 Adam Curry: Let's go to CBS Nora O'Donnell. 431 00:24:41,700 --> 00:24:43,890 Unknown: Russian authorities today are blaming the United 432 00:24:43,890 --> 00:24:46,200 States for an alleged assassination attempt on 433 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,110 Vladimir Putin. The Biden administration calls Russia's 434 00:24:49,110 --> 00:24:49,620 nuclear What 435 00:24:49,620 --> 00:24:50,190 Adam Curry: does she say? 436 00:24:51,300 --> 00:24:53,040 Unknown: That right the beginning Russian authorities 437 00:24:53,370 --> 00:24:56,730 blaming the United States for an alleged assassination attempt on 438 00:24:56,730 --> 00:24:59,640 Vladimir Putin. The Biden administration calls Russia's 439 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,760 nuclear In Ludicrous mode and National Security Council, 440 00:25:03,270 --> 00:25:05,460 Adam Curry: did you hear the infamous nor the emphasis nor 441 00:25:05,460 --> 00:25:08,100 put on that? ludicrous. 442 00:25:08,100 --> 00:25:09,900 John C Dvorak: This is your promise she's gonna get fired 443 00:25:09,900 --> 00:25:12,810 because she can't seem to keep herself out of the reporting. 444 00:25:12,870 --> 00:25:18,540 It's odd. If I was being executive mode, polar polar 445 00:25:18,540 --> 00:25:24,240 aside, I'd say, a blurry aside say, Hey, knock that off and 446 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,960 smile more. The Biden ministers are very good, charming smile. I 447 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,880 don't know why she doesn't use it more she does at the end of 448 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,530 the show. Yeah, here we go. 449 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,720 Unknown: Russian authorities today are blaming the United 450 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,060 States for an alleged assassination attempt on 451 00:25:36,060 --> 00:25:38,940 Vladimir Putin. The Biden administration calls Russia's 452 00:25:38,940 --> 00:25:42,720 new claim ludicrous. National Security Council Spokesman John 453 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,630 Kirby says the Kremlin is lying. There are questions from the 454 00:25:45,630 --> 00:25:49,020 United States on if there even was an attack with Russia's 455 00:25:49,020 --> 00:25:52,230 president as the target. Ukraine says Russia staged the whole 456 00:25:52,230 --> 00:25:55,470 thing. Overnight, several Ukrainian cities were attacked 457 00:25:55,500 --> 00:25:56,490 by drones. 458 00:25:57,030 --> 00:26:01,050 Adam Curry: I love this. I love that just throw away Oh, several 459 00:26:01,050 --> 00:26:04,170 Ukrainian cities were attacked by drones. What kind of drones 460 00:26:04,170 --> 00:26:09,000 Reaper drones are we talking to all these little little bitty 461 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,820 ones with a bomb attached cardboard drones, which turns 462 00:26:11,820 --> 00:26:14,730 out most of those are made in Australia, the cardboard ones. 463 00:26:15,990 --> 00:26:19,770 And as far as I can tell, the only the Ukrainians have the 464 00:26:19,770 --> 00:26:23,130 little the little remote control plane drones. I don't think 465 00:26:23,130 --> 00:26:26,580 Russia uses those. So when she says several Ukrainian cities 466 00:26:26,580 --> 00:26:27,660 were no information. 467 00:26:27,660 --> 00:26:30,450 John C Dvorak: There's enough information to hold that bid 468 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:31,170 report. 469 00:26:31,470 --> 00:26:34,650 Adam Curry: Information hole. Let's try ABC 470 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,070 Unknown: Russia tonight hurling new threats aimed at the US, the 471 00:26:38,070 --> 00:26:40,950 Deputy Foreign Minister wanting their quote on the verge of an 472 00:26:40,950 --> 00:26:43,320 open armed conflict with the United States. 473 00:26:43,350 --> 00:26:49,830 Adam Curry: What are we on the verge of an open art? Whatever 474 00:26:49,830 --> 00:26:51,690 that means is our reporting. 475 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,510 John C Dvorak: Yes, our reporting because we are on the 476 00:26:54,510 --> 00:26:58,140 verge of sending troops. Now I'm going to refute this later, 477 00:26:58,170 --> 00:27:01,920 Unknown: Russia tonight hurling news at the US. The deputy 478 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,800 foreign minister wanting their quote on the verge of an open 479 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,460 armed conflict with the United States again claiming Ukraine 480 00:27:08,460 --> 00:27:10,890 carried out a drone attack on the Kremlin Wednesday, 481 00:27:11,100 --> 00:27:13,800 attempting to assassinate Russian President Vladimir Putin 482 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,190 at the direction of the US White House Spokesman John Kirby 483 00:27:17,190 --> 00:27:19,980 firmly denying the allegations that the US was involved as 484 00:27:19,980 --> 00:27:23,550 quote, a blatant lie still Russia warning of possible 485 00:27:23,550 --> 00:27:26,460 retaliation, saying it will respond when and wherever it 486 00:27:26,460 --> 00:27:30,150 sees fit on the battlefield. nightmarish new video reportedly 487 00:27:30,150 --> 00:27:33,300 showing Russian incendiary bombs burning in a Ukrainian held 488 00:27:33,300 --> 00:27:36,690 pocket of Bach moot and the potentially major development on 489 00:27:36,690 --> 00:27:39,990 that battlefield today. The head of Moscow's Wagner mercenary 490 00:27:39,990 --> 00:27:42,420 group says he's pulling his troops out of the eastern 491 00:27:42,420 --> 00:27:45,210 Ukrainian city because they're not being supplied with enough 492 00:27:45,210 --> 00:27:49,380 ammunition. In a video statement, you have guinea pig 493 00:27:49,380 --> 00:27:52,410 goes in calling his Russian leadership coward and saying his 494 00:27:52,410 --> 00:27:57,540 troops will leave Baku next week on May 10. Western officials say 495 00:27:57,540 --> 00:28:00,810 half of the 20,000 Russian troops killed in Ukraine since 496 00:28:00,810 --> 00:28:03,420 December. We're Wagner fighters and Buck moves. 497 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,320 John C Dvorak: Okay, that's not the I think they really miss 498 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:12,810 reported that story. Okay. He said he would. He didn't say he 499 00:28:12,810 --> 00:28:18,930 will. He was very vague. Here's how I got to one clip from MTD. 500 00:28:18,930 --> 00:28:21,060 The Wagner group guy is irked. 501 00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:24,120 Unknown: Yeah, Turning now to the Ukraine war. The leader of 502 00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:27,360 Russia's Wagner group mercenary force said today that his forces 503 00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:30,720 would leave the Ukrainian city of BOC mode. Russia has been 504 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,060 trying to capture the city since last summer. 505 00:28:33,629 --> 00:28:36,509 Must beside you to note that we were put on what's known as 506 00:28:36,509 --> 00:28:39,749 artificial ammunition deficit, ammunition hunger. The 507 00:28:39,749 --> 00:28:42,779 ammunition is freely available in the depot's we were receiving 508 00:28:42,779 --> 00:28:46,559 only 30% of what we needed. For that reason, our losses were 509 00:28:46,559 --> 00:28:48,809 significantly higher than they should have been. 510 00:28:49,740 --> 00:28:53,610 Prigogine said they would pull back on May 10. Yes defense 511 00:28:53,610 --> 00:28:57,420 chiefs to insert regular army troops in their place. Wagner 512 00:28:57,420 --> 00:29:00,840 has been spearheading Russia's long and costly attempt to 513 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,260 capture Buck mode. Provision said three weeks ago that his 514 00:29:04,260 --> 00:29:07,650 men controlled more than 80% of the city, but Ukrainian 515 00:29:07,650 --> 00:29:11,430 defenders have held out and perversion has vented increasing 516 00:29:11,460 --> 00:29:15,300 anger and what he describes as a lack of support from the Russian 517 00:29:15,300 --> 00:29:19,110 defense establishment. Back mode has taken on huge symbolic 518 00:29:19,110 --> 00:29:22,530 importance for both sides because of the sheer intensity 519 00:29:22,530 --> 00:29:24,300 and duration of the fighting there. 520 00:29:24,450 --> 00:29:26,910 Adam Curry: You know, we really haven't gotten a good background 521 00:29:26,910 --> 00:29:29,340 on the Bogner group and why they're there. This 522 00:29:29,340 --> 00:29:30,180 John C Dvorak: is good point. 523 00:29:30,210 --> 00:29:32,970 Adam Curry: I mean, also Joe Wagner group Wagner group as 524 00:29:32,970 --> 00:29:35,940 kind of like academy or Blackwater, formerly known as 525 00:29:35,940 --> 00:29:38,370 Blackwater. Is that Is that what I'm supposed to think of the 526 00:29:38,370 --> 00:29:42,090 Wagner group and the Wagner group that day? They just 527 00:29:42,210 --> 00:29:44,520 they're like a fair weather friend. Oh, you don't give us 528 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,360 bullets? We go somewhere else. I'm angry. And who cares? I 529 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,210 mean, is that all the brush? It just sounds like that's all that 530 00:29:51,210 --> 00:29:53,250 Russia has. Is the Wagner group. 531 00:29:53,940 --> 00:29:56,340 John C Dvorak: Yeah, I don't think fishy about this Wagner. 532 00:29:56,370 --> 00:30:00,360 Wagner to evade Wagner Wagner Wagner budgets. 533 00:30:00,540 --> 00:30:03,900 Adam Curry: And all of that just seems moot compared to this next 534 00:30:03,900 --> 00:30:08,580 story covered by both ABC and NPR. Now, the Patriot missiles, 535 00:30:09,750 --> 00:30:12,360 which several European countries have given their Patriot 536 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:17,340 missiles, we've given our Patriot missile banks. What do 537 00:30:17,340 --> 00:30:19,320 we know about the Patriot missiles? Are they Great? Are 538 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:20,310 they effective? 539 00:30:21,030 --> 00:30:22,920 John C Dvorak: They're considered lousy and they don't 540 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:23,460 work. 541 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,320 Adam Curry: Well. Listen to this story. 542 00:30:25,830 --> 00:30:28,680 Unknown: New images capturing the battle for Ukraine unfolding 543 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:33,060 in the skies over key. Countries Air Force tonight with a 544 00:30:33,060 --> 00:30:36,540 spectacular claim that for the first time, they've shot down a 545 00:30:36,540 --> 00:30:39,570 Russian hypersonic missile which Vladimir Putin once called 546 00:30:39,570 --> 00:30:43,230 invincible with an American made Patriot missile system. The 547 00:30:43,230 --> 00:30:46,230 Russian hypersonic known as the Kinzel can travel at more than 548 00:30:46,230 --> 00:30:49,710 five times the speed of sound and has a range of over 1000 549 00:30:49,710 --> 00:30:53,370 miles. Ukraine only recently deployed the Patriot the most 550 00:30:53,370 --> 00:30:56,310 technologically advanced and costly air defense system in the 551 00:30:56,310 --> 00:31:00,360 world, each Patriot missile almost $3 million. But the 552 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,140 Patriots ability to shoot down a hypersonic missile has never 553 00:31:04,140 --> 00:31:05,640 been publicly demonstrated. 554 00:31:05,910 --> 00:31:08,070 Adam Curry: I have my doubts about 555 00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:12,420 John C Dvorak: boy, do you because I do I have my doubts 556 00:31:12,420 --> 00:31:18,090 about the pace sounds like full crab hybrid missile to Tory's 557 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:23,520 notorious dog at 3 million bucks a pop costly is the word he 558 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:23,940 used. 559 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,370 Adam Curry: We also don't know if this Russian missile is 560 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,580 actually high restaurant so who knows what that was? Is it 561 00:31:29,580 --> 00:31:31,920 possible I'm just gonna throw this out? Somebody's going 562 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:36,570 John C Dvorak: five over 5000 miles an hour or 44,000 to 5000 563 00:31:36,570 --> 00:31:37,320 miles an hour? 564 00:31:38,070 --> 00:31:41,040 Adam Curry: I don't think so. Not not not at that altitude. 565 00:31:41,670 --> 00:31:45,930 Oh, it would burn I wish I could. Is it possible this is 566 00:31:45,930 --> 00:31:47,370 all just a wag the dog 567 00:31:47,370 --> 00:31:50,070 John C Dvorak: media war I think I think this this last thing 568 00:31:50,070 --> 00:31:52,830 wasn't a wag the dog thing it was let's sell some more 569 00:31:52,830 --> 00:31:53,790 patriots to some other 570 00:31:53,790 --> 00:31:57,120 Adam Curry: suckers. Well, let's listen to NPR. Is it on the sale 571 00:31:57,150 --> 00:32:00,660 Unknown: overseas? Ukraine says it used a newly acquired us 572 00:32:00,660 --> 00:32:03,450 Patriot missile battery to shut down a Russian hybrid. 573 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,280 Adam Curry: I gotta read something from the troll room. 574 00:32:05,310 --> 00:32:09,270 All right, wasn't it Ice Cube. If the hypersonic missiles not 575 00:32:09,270 --> 00:32:11,760 very maneuverable than the patriot has a chance with a 576 00:32:11,790 --> 00:32:17,400 software upgrade, please. I think it'd be a firmware 577 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,660 upgrade, not a software upgrade. Now we could get your hypersonic 578 00:32:21,660 --> 00:32:25,020 missile just let me upgrade the firmware. Ya know 579 00:32:25,050 --> 00:32:28,560 Unknown: overseas Ukraine says it used a newly acquired us 580 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,160 Patriot missile battery to shoot down a Russian hypersonic weapon 581 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,060 over the capital of Kiva last week. Newman has more 582 00:32:36,330 --> 00:32:39,840 attacks on Ukraine in recent months, Russia has increasingly 583 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,740 employed one of its latest high tech missiles, the Kensal or 584 00:32:43,740 --> 00:32:47,700 dagger, traveling it up to 10 times the speed of sound. The 585 00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:51,630 missile had proved nearly impossible to intercept but 586 00:32:51,630 --> 00:32:52,830 Ukraine's Air Force 587 00:32:55,410 --> 00:32:57,840 John C Dvorak: when would they when was it tested against 588 00:32:57,870 --> 00:33:02,310 interception? I don't know they've been firing these things 589 00:33:02,310 --> 00:33:04,980 off left and right and they've been impossible to intercept I 590 00:33:04,980 --> 00:33:09,240 don't know sounds like I by the way have the sales pitch that 591 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,720 they didn't use the guy with this thought with the software 592 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:17,400 upgrade the new Patriot missile beat got the hypersonic missile 593 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:18,780 using AI 594 00:33:18,810 --> 00:33:22,170 Adam Curry: ah yes what are we thinking people crew Devora 595 00:33:22,170 --> 00:33:26,100 consulting group to the rescue once again. Yes, we have this is 596 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:30,930 your soul right? These guys are behind the times Military 597 00:33:30,930 --> 00:33:34,740 Industrial Complex hire us. We will help you this is exactly 598 00:33:34,740 --> 00:33:40,560 right. The new Patriot Yeah, so we go now to general DeVore. AK 599 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:45,360 was going to explain how how was possible for this. For this 600 00:33:45,450 --> 00:33:49,320 Patriot missile, often known as the dog of war, to actually 601 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,830 intercept the hatchet whatever it was called the 602 00:33:53,580 --> 00:33:56,490 John C Dvorak: the harrow comes down Yeah, well, the AI which is 603 00:33:56,580 --> 00:33:59,580 stands for artificial intelligence can tell you can 604 00:33:59,580 --> 00:34:04,020 adjust the sighting and targeting so far in advance that 605 00:34:04,020 --> 00:34:08,280 before the missile is actually launched by the Russians, it 606 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,600 will know where it's going to go. 607 00:34:09,839 --> 00:34:12,629 Adam Curry: So the dagger the dagger, I'm sorry, the dagger? 608 00:34:12,659 --> 00:34:15,929 Yeah, we shoot the dagger. We're not afraid of your dagger, 609 00:34:15,929 --> 00:34:17,969 Russia, we've got Patriot AI, 610 00:34:18,089 --> 00:34:21,209 Unknown: traveling it up to 10 times the speed of sound. The 611 00:34:21,209 --> 00:34:25,109 missile had proved nearly impossible to intercept. But 612 00:34:25,109 --> 00:34:28,889 Ukraine's Air Force armed with us supplied Patriot missiles 613 00:34:28,889 --> 00:34:33,179 that arrived last month says it destroyed a Kensal during a 614 00:34:33,179 --> 00:34:36,899 Russian strike on Kyiv earlier this week, it's thought to be 615 00:34:36,899 --> 00:34:40,049 the first time Ukraine has managed to intercept a Russian 616 00:34:40,049 --> 00:34:44,489 hypersonic missile. In October the US agreed to supply patriots 617 00:34:44,489 --> 00:34:48,119 to Ukraine to aid in defending its skies against the Kremlin's 618 00:34:48,149 --> 00:34:49,709 air and missile attacks. 619 00:34:51,870 --> 00:34:54,900 Adam Curry: Yet there's a drone late yet there's drones 620 00:34:54,900 --> 00:34:59,340 attacking multiple cities in in Ukraine and they can't stop 621 00:34:59,340 --> 00:35:01,770 John C Dvorak: you can't stop dos Santos you know, and that 622 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,260 might understand the most of the missiles that were hitting 623 00:35:04,260 --> 00:35:08,040 Ukraine overtime or cruise missiles, not this crazy 624 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,220 hypersonic thing? Well, well, I mean, was there any evidence 625 00:35:11,220 --> 00:35:13,590 that they were being pounded by these things in the past? I 626 00:35:13,590 --> 00:35:14,700 don't know this, but we 627 00:35:14,700 --> 00:35:18,450 Adam Curry: know why this is a story. Because we need to 628 00:35:18,450 --> 00:35:21,840 develop hypersonic missiles. That's the whole 629 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:22,860 John C Dvorak: money there. Yeah, you're 630 00:35:22,860 --> 00:35:24,390 Adam Curry: right. You know, so we need 631 00:35:24,900 --> 00:35:27,630 John C Dvorak: but then again, if the, if the Patriot can bring 632 00:35:27,630 --> 00:35:31,440 him down, you know, maybe we're gonna do hyper hypersonic. 633 00:35:32,610 --> 00:35:36,570 Adam Curry: And we were talking about the just war. Now they 634 00:35:36,570 --> 00:35:41,580 call the this in Ukraine, the you know, it's not a just war. 635 00:35:41,790 --> 00:35:45,870 This comes from its military ethics, just war theory. There's 636 00:35:45,900 --> 00:35:50,100 a whole Wikipedia page on it. Which has been studied by 637 00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:53,430 military leaders, theologians, ethicist and policymakers, 638 00:35:53,940 --> 00:35:59,100 consultants. It's doctrine to ensure that a war is morally 639 00:35:59,100 --> 00:36:03,090 justifiable through a series of criteria, all of which must be 640 00:36:03,090 --> 00:36:07,500 met for war to be considered considered just juice ad bellum. 641 00:36:07,650 --> 00:36:11,520 The right to go war? And of course, this comes from ancient 642 00:36:11,550 --> 00:36:18,180 Egypt and then route the I mean, he hard was a joke. Used to blow 643 00:36:18,210 --> 00:36:22,410 I agree. I agree. They heard from our constitutional law 644 00:36:22,410 --> 00:36:29,070 professor JJ, he says the war of aggression in international law, 645 00:36:29,100 --> 00:36:33,420 which I'm like, show me their international law book. We sent 646 00:36:33,420 --> 00:36:35,610 me stuff but it was not an it'll not it's not a book that says 647 00:36:35,610 --> 00:36:38,070 this is international law, because that just doesn't exist. 648 00:36:39,180 --> 00:36:42,600 The Supreme crimes, supreme crime is a war of aggression. 649 00:36:43,290 --> 00:36:48,090 That means an unprovoked attack, such as the primary charge 650 00:36:48,090 --> 00:36:50,640 against heads of Germany and Japan after World War Two. 651 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,260 John C Dvorak: You mean, all those provoked attacks? 652 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,220 Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, well, Jeff. But I mean, that that just 653 00:36:59,220 --> 00:37:03,150 defining it. But of course, it's, you know, there was a lot 654 00:37:03,150 --> 00:37:03,360 of 655 00:37:04,319 --> 00:37:07,049 John C Dvorak: a lot of problem the attack on Pearl Harbor was 656 00:37:07,049 --> 00:37:07,679 provoked. 657 00:37:07,770 --> 00:37:11,910 Adam Curry: Of course. It was, in fact provoked. Yeah, it was 658 00:37:11,940 --> 00:37:12,660 tell people. 659 00:37:15,660 --> 00:37:18,330 John C Dvorak: It doesn't mean that wasn't chickenshit tell us 660 00:37:18,330 --> 00:37:21,720 how it was provoked. What was provoked because we did cut off 661 00:37:21,750 --> 00:37:26,700 all kinds of weak trade we had to we got into a trade war for 662 00:37:26,700 --> 00:37:29,820 all practical purposes with Japan. Exactly. And we 663 00:37:29,820 --> 00:37:34,380 specifically we provoked them. Yeah. And I would say the word 664 00:37:34,380 --> 00:37:36,360 cutting them off here and there cutting them off at the knees 665 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,240 here and there, what you're trying to do to China, and it 666 00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:42,660 provoked him. And so they, you know, joined forces with the, 667 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,940 with the Nazis and got us into the war by bombing Pearl Harbor, 668 00:37:47,940 --> 00:37:51,150 which we some people believe was, I think, was some 669 00:37:51,150 --> 00:37:53,190 justification that we knew it was coming 670 00:37:53,250 --> 00:37:54,780 Adam Curry: so that we could get into the war 671 00:37:56,010 --> 00:37:58,020 John C Dvorak: sounds and that's why we moved all our big 672 00:37:58,020 --> 00:38:01,410 carriers. We left all the junky boats behind, move the big 673 00:38:01,410 --> 00:38:04,800 carriers off the road by just coincidence. Luckily, our big 674 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,820 carriers weren't anywhere near the place. That's a lucky 675 00:38:08,820 --> 00:38:09,990 coincidence. 676 00:38:10,110 --> 00:38:14,010 Adam Curry: That part of the story is not told in the Pacific 677 00:38:14,010 --> 00:38:17,580 War Museum here in Fredericksburg. And it's in 678 00:38:17,580 --> 00:38:19,500 John C Dvorak: the red that the carriers are moved out of the 679 00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:21,750 way No, no is not 680 00:38:21,750 --> 00:38:24,720 Adam Curry: told, not told. It's, by the way, that's a 681 00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:28,890 dynamite Museum. If you ever want to see it's just a credit 682 00:38:28,890 --> 00:38:31,770 Museum, the Pacific War Museum in Fredericksburg because of 683 00:38:31,770 --> 00:38:37,440 course, Admiral Nimitz, grew up in Fredericksburg. And the 684 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,370 Nimitz was a huge aircraft carrier that won the war for our 685 00:38:41,370 --> 00:38:42,060 boys so 686 00:38:42,060 --> 00:38:44,700 John C Dvorak: Nimitz would name is home was like I say won the 687 00:38:44,700 --> 00:38:46,380 Pacific War by himself on 688 00:38:46,410 --> 00:38:49,980 Adam Curry: just him him and his, his pipe, his buddy and his 689 00:38:49,980 --> 00:38:54,180 buddies. So an apple bomb and do you have anything on Ukraine any 690 00:38:54,180 --> 00:38:56,850 other stuff before I go on? And blow you out of the water? 691 00:38:57,720 --> 00:39:00,570 John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's funny when you ask knowing you have to 692 00:39:00,570 --> 00:39:01,740 listen you see nothing 693 00:39:02,220 --> 00:39:06,060 Adam Curry: I do. I rarely look at your list. I mean, I don't 694 00:39:06,060 --> 00:39:11,700 really care. Sweetie, you know I mean, I'm not supposed to I'm 695 00:39:11,700 --> 00:39:12,180 not spying 696 00:39:13,470 --> 00:39:15,630 John C Dvorak: I guess the wagon or group guy thought I had some 697 00:39:15,630 --> 00:39:18,930 Ukraine clips. I think I have some leftover of Nope, I use 698 00:39:18,930 --> 00:39:20,220 them all. No, we're good to go. 699 00:39:20,430 --> 00:39:24,870 Adam Curry: So Anne Applebaum. Is she's kind of a media darling 700 00:39:24,900 --> 00:39:27,540 of of this war. 701 00:39:28,529 --> 00:39:32,249 John C Dvorak: Yeah, we have to revisit who she is because every 702 00:39:32,249 --> 00:39:35,189 time I look her up every so often and every time I hear her 703 00:39:35,189 --> 00:39:38,909 name, as she's spoke of some sort or she's an Asian 704 00:39:38,909 --> 00:39:42,269 provocateur, she's I don't know what she is. And every night 705 00:39:42,269 --> 00:39:44,369 then I forget about her completely and then you bring 706 00:39:44,369 --> 00:39:46,649 her up again and I have to be reminded who she is 707 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,900 Adam Curry: because she keeps popping up everywhere as the 708 00:39:48,900 --> 00:39:51,990 expert now of course she writes for The Atlantic currently but 709 00:39:52,020 --> 00:39:56,220 ah, no attic she is Polish American. So you know she's so 710 00:39:56,220 --> 00:39:58,830 she's been very involved in this because, you know, she's 711 00:39:58,830 --> 00:40:03,360 actually no young I'm in Poland and her aid isn't her husband or 712 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:08,460 her boyfriend. He was the guy that when, when they when we 713 00:40:08,460 --> 00:40:12,960 blew up the Nord Stream he he said thanks America or some I'm 714 00:40:13,020 --> 00:40:18,570 paraphrasing thanks America Good job everybody. Reading from her 715 00:40:18,570 --> 00:40:21,930 Wikipedia page. She has written extensively about the history of 716 00:40:21,930 --> 00:40:25,140 communism so that she would be a trans Maoist, she would be part 717 00:40:25,140 --> 00:40:31,080 of the system trying to drive us into communism. She's worked at 718 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,870 the economist, a spectator, a member of the editorial board of 719 00:40:33,870 --> 00:40:38,700 the Washington Post, she won the pure the coveted pure surprise 720 00:40:38,700 --> 00:40:43,710 for general nonfiction for gulag, a history published in 721 00:40:43,710 --> 00:40:47,880 2004, staff writer for Atlantic senior fellow at the Agora 722 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,450 Institute, Johns Hopkins, a Johns Hopkins University School 723 00:40:51,450 --> 00:40:54,540 of Advanced International Studies. Yeah, I'd say spook, 724 00:40:54,570 --> 00:40:55,740 oh, Sidwell and friends. 725 00:40:56,580 --> 00:40:59,340 John C Dvorak: She think Wait, I got another one as well. Yeah. 726 00:40:59,970 --> 00:41:03,420 She spent the summer in Leningrad. Yes, she did. But 727 00:41:03,420 --> 00:41:04,140 what she has written. 728 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,500 Adam Curry: Sidwell Friends School is where all the spook 729 00:41:07,500 --> 00:41:11,880 children go to including my cousin's. Oh, okay. So that's a 730 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,890 giveaway and she's Phi Beta Kappa 731 00:41:16,140 --> 00:41:18,540 John C Dvorak: is not a dummy, which is spooks love Phi Beta 732 00:41:18,540 --> 00:41:18,810 Kappa, and 733 00:41:18,810 --> 00:41:21,810 Adam Curry: in 1989, just by coincidence, she drove from 734 00:41:21,810 --> 00:41:24,840 Warsaw to Berlin to report on the collapse of the Berlin Wall. 735 00:41:27,090 --> 00:41:32,880 Anyway, yeah, this girl is connected. And she has been 736 00:41:33,090 --> 00:41:36,240 writing a lot about Russia. I think she'd St. Anthony's 737 00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:39,570 John C Dvorak: College, Oxford to me, she's probably a Rhodes 738 00:41:39,570 --> 00:41:40,950 dealer soon. Who knows. 739 00:41:41,130 --> 00:41:42,930 Adam Curry: She has been writing about Russia since the early 740 00:41:42,930 --> 00:41:45,960 1990s and 2000. She described the links between the den new 741 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,770 new President of Russia Vladimir Putin, with former Soviet leader 742 00:41:49,770 --> 00:41:54,390 Yuri on drop off and rip off the former can drop off and drop and 743 00:41:54,390 --> 00:41:59,190 drop them off. In 2000, he began speaking about Putin ism as an 744 00:41:59,190 --> 00:42:03,360 anti democratic NISM Okay, write that down if we ever use that as 745 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,610 a title. Nope. ism. 746 00:42:06,540 --> 00:42:10,320 John C Dvorak: Don't care for it. So she she like ample bosom 747 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:11,310 is better. 748 00:42:12,570 --> 00:42:14,730 Adam Curry: How do you spell it spell bosom? 749 00:42:15,300 --> 00:42:16,260 John C Dvorak: Pos O M 750 00:42:17,430 --> 00:42:24,180 Adam Curry: ample bosom? Okay. So she's she's, she's an 751 00:42:24,180 --> 00:42:25,410 activist. She's not 752 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,900 John C Dvorak: whether or not she's writing all this materials 753 00:42:27,900 --> 00:42:32,610 and other question because we know that the agencies plural, 754 00:42:33,150 --> 00:42:36,360 plenty of writers and crank listen, I feel bad for these 755 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,060 guys who write for somebody else and then their name is narrowed 756 00:42:39,060 --> 00:42:39,660 Manchester's 757 00:42:39,810 --> 00:42:41,970 Adam Curry: member of Congress ghost writer, member of Council 758 00:42:41,970 --> 00:42:45,750 on Foreign Relations. I am on the board of the National 759 00:42:45,750 --> 00:42:50,850 Endowment for Democracy, which is a huge NGO funding out 760 00:42:50,910 --> 00:42:54,540 outfit. Yeah, we should get money from them. Good luck, 761 00:42:54,870 --> 00:42:57,750 member of the Institute for war and peace reportings, 762 00:42:57,750 --> 00:43:00,870 international board of directors. Is that Amy's outfit? 763 00:43:02,430 --> 00:43:06,090 I don't think so. But she's just the War and Peace Report. Senior 764 00:43:06,090 --> 00:43:09,450 adjunct Fellow at the Center for European Policy Analysis spook 765 00:43:09,450 --> 00:43:12,810 outfit led a major initiative aimed at countering Russian 766 00:43:12,810 --> 00:43:15,330 disinformation in Central and Eastern Europe. Okay, you get 767 00:43:15,330 --> 00:43:15,960 the idea. 768 00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:19,560 John C Dvorak: Yeah, she's so she's like, holy moly. 769 00:43:20,010 --> 00:43:22,710 Adam Curry: Yeah. So she's tied in, she's clued in she knows 770 00:43:22,710 --> 00:43:25,770 what's going on. And as usual, 771 00:43:26,370 --> 00:43:31,590 John C Dvorak: and her spouse is this guy, who is Rattus law 772 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,370 Sikorski, a Polish politician and journalist is a member of 773 00:43:35,370 --> 00:43:41,640 the European Parliament, Parliament. And here's some some 774 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,420 other things he's Polish he's real polish, and she's got a new 775 00:43:45,420 --> 00:43:48,840 book out of course she doesn't crank those books out we're not 776 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:49,650 doing any work 777 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:54,450 Adam Curry: the twilight of democracy explains with 778 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:58,440 electrifying clarity why some of her contemporaries have 779 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,670 abandoned liberal democratic ideas in favor of strong man 780 00:44:02,670 --> 00:44:06,660 cults nationalist movements, or one party states 781 00:44:07,650 --> 00:44:10,680 John C Dvorak: surely this named people that have gone for that 782 00:44:10,710 --> 00:44:13,680 Adam Curry: I'm not gonna I'm just reading from her blurb 783 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:19,590 blurb that she to help man Stalin's war on Ukraine she she 784 00:44:19,590 --> 00:44:24,300 knows it all. She she knows it all. Okay, so we've established 785 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,160 what she is and who she is what she does, 786 00:44:26,250 --> 00:44:28,020 John C Dvorak: and every we have to do this over and over again, 787 00:44:28,020 --> 00:44:32,340 she's she's the perfect and an apple bombs or name. Okay? 788 00:44:34,170 --> 00:44:36,030 Adam Curry: What Sure. Oh, 789 00:44:37,590 --> 00:44:41,010 John C Dvorak: well, you know, the CIA read names everybody, is 790 00:44:41,010 --> 00:44:44,760 something you're saying if you're gonna start renaming 791 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:49,560 people with some phony baloney names, I think an apple bomb is 792 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,090 pretty good choice. 793 00:44:51,870 --> 00:44:55,170 Adam Curry: Let's see. Oh, and her most recent article in The 794 00:44:55,170 --> 00:45:00,810 Atlantic. Is was May 1. The Case for Tow to liberation of 795 00:45:00,810 --> 00:45:04,860 Ukraine, Russia must be expelled from all of Ukraine's territory, 796 00:45:04,860 --> 00:45:11,640 including Crimea. So this is what she may be writing and 797 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,490 saying, you know, for all of her Washington, DC hoity toity 798 00:45:14,490 --> 00:45:19,410 people but as we know, if you put any of these, any of these 799 00:45:19,410 --> 00:45:23,640 intellectuals, anybody really reporter, he put them on a 800 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:28,380 podcast what happens? They talk or they speak out of turn. They 801 00:45:28,380 --> 00:45:33,270 say too much. They say way too much. And wouldn't you know it? 802 00:45:33,720 --> 00:45:36,900 She was on the pivot podcast, which is the award winning 803 00:45:36,900 --> 00:45:41,850 technology podcast that doesn't really talk about technology 804 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:47,880 with your favorite of mine, Kara Swisher, and the Professor G. 805 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,840 Scott Galloway. And they asked her specifically about ending 806 00:45:51,870 --> 00:45:53,640 the war in Ukraine, 807 00:45:53,700 --> 00:45:57,180 Unknown: as I said, I think that they're the counter offensive is 808 00:45:57,180 --> 00:45:59,460 might not look like what we think it would look like. I 809 00:45:59,460 --> 00:46:01,260 mean, it may not be kind of brigade. 810 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,820 John C Dvorak: What they've been talking about this counter 811 00:46:05,820 --> 00:46:09,180 offensive, and so she's been a spokesperson for who knows who. 812 00:46:09,420 --> 00:46:12,120 And she says, hey, you know, it's not gonna look like we 813 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,810 think, which means is not either not going to happen, or it's a 814 00:46:15,810 --> 00:46:18,420 huge dud or some something's wrong, 815 00:46:18,450 --> 00:46:20,400 Unknown: it's better look like what we think it would look 816 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,760 like. I mean, it may not be kind of brigades of tanks, you know, 817 00:46:23,940 --> 00:46:27,750 streaming across the countryside. It may come in fits 818 00:46:27,750 --> 00:46:30,930 and starts. So there may be, as I said, I think the Ukrainian 819 00:46:34,980 --> 00:46:36,270 Adam Curry: you can be Go ahead. 820 00:46:37,470 --> 00:46:38,880 John C Dvorak: How does she know any of this? 821 00:46:39,240 --> 00:46:40,320 Adam Curry: She's boots on the ground. 822 00:46:41,340 --> 00:46:44,280 John C Dvorak: Defense Department. She is EIA, what's 823 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:45,090 the deal? She's 824 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,610 Adam Curry: everything she knows what's going on. This is this is 825 00:46:47,610 --> 00:46:50,790 what's so beautiful about the podcast. Below she think, Oh, 826 00:46:50,790 --> 00:46:53,850 I'm just gonna chat with with Kara and Scott the way we do it 827 00:46:54,060 --> 00:46:57,480 at the club, head, the lip Joe club, we're just going to talk a 828 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,600 little bit and because you know, this is how they talk, when 829 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,940 they're on the phone. She's forgetting that people listen to 830 00:47:02,940 --> 00:47:07,920 the podcast, she's very different when she's on MSNBC, 831 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,580 or CNN or even one of the weather networks. She's an 832 00:47:11,580 --> 00:47:15,030 official, she's that she is a spokes hole for what's going on. 833 00:47:15,240 --> 00:47:16,650 She's written the book, 834 00:47:17,250 --> 00:47:20,520 Unknown: it may come in fits and starts, she's a patriot. So 835 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,130 there may be, as I said, I think the Ukrainians are going to be 836 00:47:23,130 --> 00:47:27,060 probing up and down the line. They're going to be looking for 837 00:47:27,060 --> 00:47:29,970 political opportunities, as well as military opportunities. 838 00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:33,660 They're, they're what part of their goal is to kind of 839 00:47:33,660 --> 00:47:36,750 destabilize the Kremlin, as we've already discussed, and, 840 00:47:37,170 --> 00:47:42,210 and create a sense in Russia that just that the war is a 841 00:47:42,210 --> 00:47:43,140 waste of time. And 842 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,420 Adam Curry: this is very important, because this is what 843 00:47:45,420 --> 00:47:50,820 she's part of, is these groups that go in and do subversive 844 00:47:50,820 --> 00:47:55,620 stuff in a country to chant, you know, coup, basically color 845 00:47:55,620 --> 00:47:59,130 revolution. And they have had in their mind for the longest time, 846 00:47:59,130 --> 00:48:03,510 if only we can get Vladimir Putin to be thrown out by his 847 00:48:03,510 --> 00:48:07,980 own people. This is what they really want. But you know, Putin 848 00:48:07,980 --> 00:48:12,210 throughout all the NGOs funded by USA ID he saw it come and he 849 00:48:12,210 --> 00:48:14,730 saw it. And what was that in 2015? Or something he 850 00:48:14,730 --> 00:48:18,120 John C Dvorak: saw was a while ago, they can't touch him. Yeah. 851 00:48:18,180 --> 00:48:18,540 So 852 00:48:18,540 --> 00:48:20,130 Adam Curry: but you know, so anyway, this is what the 853 00:48:20,130 --> 00:48:21,540 Ukrainians are now going to do. 854 00:48:21,540 --> 00:48:23,640 Unknown: And if destabilize the Kremlin, as we've already 855 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:28,650 discussed, and, and create a sense in Russia that, you know, 856 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,190 just that the war is a waste of time and a waste of energy. And 857 00:48:32,190 --> 00:48:33,870 it's an it's an it should be stopped. 858 00:48:34,170 --> 00:48:36,900 Adam Curry: But that sounds like a plan. Yeah, let's convince to 859 00:48:37,020 --> 00:48:40,740 Putin isn't that it's a waste of time. Should you just 860 00:48:41,130 --> 00:48:44,100 Unknown: remember, they don't need to occupy Moscow or conquer 861 00:48:44,100 --> 00:48:47,040 Moscow or take Russian territory, they have no 862 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,370 ambitions like that. All they have to do is convince the 863 00:48:50,370 --> 00:48:54,510 Russians, you know, to go home. And really the moment the moment 864 00:48:54,510 --> 00:48:57,300 when the Russians withdraw their troops, the war's over, you 865 00:48:57,300 --> 00:49:00,360 know, since it can, so there's no complicated, you know, 866 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,870 territorial negotiation. There's nothing complex that needs to be 867 00:49:03,870 --> 00:49:06,300 done. They just need to leave and then it's over. But they're 868 00:49:06,300 --> 00:49:08,640 not going to leave. Right. They're not willing. I mean, 869 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,680 Adam Curry: they have left such a probing question, Kara, 870 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,180 Swisher? Well, well, 871 00:49:12,450 --> 00:49:14,400 Unknown: Plex that needs to be done. They just need to leave 872 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,130 and then it's over. But they're not going to leave. Right. 873 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:17,850 They're not willing. 874 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:22,530 I mean, they have left, they left Pearson, they left arkiv. 875 00:49:22,530 --> 00:49:24,840 And they left, you know, the northern part of Ukraine that 876 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,910 they conquered the beginning of the war. So there's some 877 00:49:26,910 --> 00:49:28,680 precedent for thinking they could leave. 878 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,760 Adam Curry: So what if they just left back moot? Then they could, 879 00:49:32,790 --> 00:49:36,840 Oh, it's over. They left. Maybe that's why all this focus is on 880 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,530 that right now. Maybe this is the Wagner group's job, because 881 00:49:40,530 --> 00:49:43,950 they're fairweather friends, by all we give up. We have no 882 00:49:43,950 --> 00:49:46,890 support. There's not that we're leaving. And then then they 883 00:49:46,890 --> 00:49:51,030 could clear victory. I mean, we still have to prosecute Vladimir 884 00:49:51,030 --> 00:49:55,200 Putin at the International Criminal Court. But that would 885 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:59,550 be one area. She's definitely backpedaling on the war aspect 886 00:49:59,550 --> 00:50:02,250 of it. Oh, I don't want to have to convince the people of the 887 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,130 Russia to tell Vladimir Putin it's a waste of time. He just 888 00:50:05,130 --> 00:50:08,880 needs to pull out and then it's over the war's over done. That's 889 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,770 what I heard from Anne Applebaum. Did you hear that? 890 00:50:13,620 --> 00:50:18,810 John C Dvorak: I heard that. The Ukrainians have got nothing. 891 00:50:19,140 --> 00:50:22,110 That's why there's not going to be a counter offensive, which 892 00:50:22,110 --> 00:50:25,530 they've been putting off. It seems to me an awful long time. 893 00:50:26,490 --> 00:50:29,940 But your thesis because of the it's possible that his Wagner 894 00:50:29,940 --> 00:50:33,090 group guy who's out and notorious for being a blowhard, 895 00:50:34,020 --> 00:50:37,890 according to other reports, may you might be right, he may be 896 00:50:37,890 --> 00:50:41,100 setting it up for this withdrawal. And in the Russians. 897 00:50:41,310 --> 00:50:43,080 For one thing, they're leaving a mess. 898 00:50:44,460 --> 00:50:45,450 Adam Curry: Yeah, for sure. 899 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,150 John C Dvorak: I mean, it's the areas that the Russians are 900 00:50:48,510 --> 00:50:54,780 dicking around and are, are messed up. And they've killed a 901 00:50:54,780 --> 00:50:56,280 lot of people. Yes, a 902 00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,890 Adam Curry: very bad day for Ukrainians. They're 903 00:50:58,980 --> 00:51:03,930 John C Dvorak: so bad day. And so well, let me give you some 904 00:51:04,020 --> 00:51:05,370 you know what they could do? I 905 00:51:05,370 --> 00:51:07,560 Adam Curry: mean, let me let me give you a little more, because 906 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,120 this was a long interview. 907 00:51:10,049 --> 00:51:11,609 John C Dvorak: I'm all ears here. 908 00:51:12,089 --> 00:51:18,569 Adam Curry: So now listen to this, about the US is support in 909 00:51:18,569 --> 00:51:21,779 all of this, what do we really want to have happen 910 00:51:21,839 --> 00:51:23,699 Unknown: to how would you assess the West? 911 00:51:23,820 --> 00:51:24,930 Adam Curry: Well, I'm Bob Scott. 912 00:51:28,260 --> 00:51:30,870 Unknown: Bomer, Professor of Marketing. I'm a professor of 913 00:51:30,870 --> 00:51:35,370 marketing at NYU, and I'm going to talk more now with you. 914 00:51:35,490 --> 00:51:39,450 How would you assess the West's support for Ukraine? And 915 00:51:39,510 --> 00:51:42,480 Adam Curry: what what are your views on on? Do you have a 916 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,140 message for for the West? Do you have a message? Can you give us 917 00:51:46,140 --> 00:51:51,960 the CIA's message and Ukraine and what what are your views on 918 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,940 Do you have a message for for the West, 919 00:51:53,970 --> 00:51:56,610 Unknown: so it's really impressive what we've done so 920 00:51:56,610 --> 00:52:00,630 far, and it's a lot more than anybody had ever expected. And 921 00:52:00,630 --> 00:52:04,020 it's that's also a reflection of the fact that Ukrainians just 922 00:52:04,020 --> 00:52:06,360 impressed people, you know, Solinsky was good at 923 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,000 communicating. But it wasn't just him. It was the, you know, 924 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,490 the, you know, the Ukrainians fought back, you know, and 925 00:52:11,490 --> 00:52:14,310 Marielle. Paul, for example, the very good, you know, early part 926 00:52:14,310 --> 00:52:19,500 of the war and kids. And because of that, the nice is rub 927 00:52:19,500 --> 00:52:20,250 John C Dvorak: alized. 928 00:52:23,430 --> 00:52:24,420 Adam Curry: We continue, oh, Paul, 929 00:52:24,420 --> 00:52:25,080 Unknown: for example, let's 930 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:26,550 Adam Curry: go back to it on that one indicating, but 931 00:52:26,550 --> 00:52:28,830 Unknown: it wasn't just him. It was the, you know, the 932 00:52:28,860 --> 00:52:31,860 Ukrainians fought back, you know, at Marielle pole, for 933 00:52:31,860 --> 00:52:36,180 example, at the very early part of the war. And he is, and 934 00:52:36,180 --> 00:52:36,930 because I 935 00:52:38,550 --> 00:52:40,350 Adam Curry: did you hear what I just heard, I didn't hear this 936 00:52:40,350 --> 00:52:44,910 before. Did you hear what I just heard? She said, Kyiv? She said 937 00:52:44,910 --> 00:52:48,390 Kyiv? Maybe she's a double agent. 938 00:52:50,340 --> 00:52:53,880 John C Dvorak: You know, I, I wonder about when you talk to 939 00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,340 people from the area, they say you can pronounce it either way. 940 00:52:56,340 --> 00:53:00,330 It's no big deal. But we've been known as a key reason and the 941 00:53:00,330 --> 00:53:05,040 only inundated by saying Kyiv it could be a part of the milieu 942 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:05,370 she's 943 00:53:05,370 --> 00:53:08,220 Adam Curry: in. Yeah, Russian KGB, I think she's a 944 00:53:09,300 --> 00:53:11,910 John C Dvorak: CIA may be calling it killer. Oh, 945 00:53:11,910 --> 00:53:12,420 Adam Curry: good. One, 946 00:53:12,450 --> 00:53:15,270 Unknown: Ukrainians fought back, you know, in Marielle. Paul, for 947 00:53:15,270 --> 00:53:19,650 example, at the very early part of the war, and he is, and 948 00:53:19,650 --> 00:53:23,880 because of that you've had this galvanizing effect on Europe on 949 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,730 America, you know, and our willingness to give them weapons 950 00:53:26,730 --> 00:53:30,120 and help them is extraordinary. I would say one thing, which is 951 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,750 that we always seem to be kind of three or four beats behind 952 00:53:33,750 --> 00:53:37,380 the situation. You know, eventually we will give them you 953 00:53:37,380 --> 00:53:39,750 know, we said we wouldn't give them high marzi, these long 954 00:53:39,750 --> 00:53:42,540 range missiles, long range artillery, you know, and then we 955 00:53:42,540 --> 00:53:45,330 did, you know, we've said we wouldn't give them airplanes, 956 00:53:45,330 --> 00:53:47,610 and now actually, they're beginning to get some airplanes 957 00:53:47,610 --> 00:53:50,940 from, from European countries. And we may eventually do that, 958 00:53:50,940 --> 00:53:53,850 too. And it would help if we would give them more 959 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,120 immediately, because then we could maybe end the war more 960 00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,490 quickly. I mean, the danger of this war, obviously, is that it 961 00:53:59,490 --> 00:54:02,670 drags on, which is not good for them, not good for us not good 962 00:54:02,670 --> 00:54:07,560 for anybody, and having a decisive plan to end it, you 963 00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:15,210 know, soon isn't something super decisive plan to end it, you 964 00:54:15,210 --> 00:54:19,590 know, soon isn't something I'm feeling from Washington. I mean, 965 00:54:19,590 --> 00:54:22,830 Washington remains in Washington meeting in the White House 966 00:54:22,830 --> 00:54:26,130 dependent on lots of different people remains nervous about the 967 00:54:26,130 --> 00:54:29,820 idea that the Ukrainians could win in other words, could push 968 00:54:29,820 --> 00:54:33,390 the Russians out of at least their territory since February 969 00:54:33,420 --> 00:54:38,730 22. Taken since February 2022. But in more than that February 970 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:42,960 in territory taken since 2014. And there seems to be there's 971 00:54:42,990 --> 00:54:45,030 there's still a lot of nervousness and I think that 972 00:54:45,900 --> 00:54:49,770 that's that's been a kind of drag on the war. And there's a 973 00:54:49,770 --> 00:54:52,920 danger that that nervousness could extend the war. So they 974 00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,770 don't want them to win too much. They just want them to take they 975 00:54:55,770 --> 00:54:59,430 seem to not they nobody says it quite like that. Nobody will 976 00:54:59,430 --> 00:55:02,010 ever say that. on the record, you know, even off the record, 977 00:55:02,010 --> 00:55:02,850 they don't really say that 978 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:07,080 Adam Curry: except on our podcast your dog's Stupid woman 979 00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,320 Unknown: to take. They seem to not that nobody says it quite 980 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,530 like that. Nobody will ever say that on the record, you know, 981 00:55:13,650 --> 00:55:17,520 even off the record, they don't really say that. But yeah, it's 982 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,650 pretty clear that they are there. They're nervous about 983 00:55:19,650 --> 00:55:21,720 what that would mean. And I think that's wrong because again 984 00:55:21,720 --> 00:55:24,810 for now, I think I said this to another time it's a it's a 985 00:55:24,810 --> 00:55:27,630 political struggle as well as a military one and the Russians 986 00:55:27,630 --> 00:55:30,000 have to be convinced that they can't win and that there's no 987 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,170 opportunity for them to win. 988 00:55:31,380 --> 00:55:34,050 Adam Curry: That's you said a lot there. And I think go either 989 00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:39,240 my way or your way what I heard her say was, they want them to 990 00:55:39,240 --> 00:55:43,200 win but let's not drag this out and try and get Crimea back. 991 00:55:43,230 --> 00:55:45,300 That's what I hear. What did you hear? 992 00:55:46,950 --> 00:55:51,090 John C Dvorak: boots on the ground baby? Gum and that's 993 00:55:51,090 --> 00:55:51,780 possible. 994 00:55:53,310 --> 00:55:56,400 Adam Curry: It's possible. It's possible I think it could go 995 00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:01,710 either way. But I just like how podcasts are beautiful, please. 996 00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,760 And I love hearing this on the number one award winning tech 997 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,130 podcast that's what I love so much about it. It's just 998 00:56:08,130 --> 00:56:11,130 John C Dvorak: there ever been any tech discussed on this award 999 00:56:11,130 --> 00:56:12,480 winning tech podcast 1000 00:56:12,509 --> 00:56:16,589 Adam Curry: all the time? It's mainly a cara and Scott get 1001 00:56:16,589 --> 00:56:20,639 Professor G's hatred of Elon Musk that is the extent of tech 1002 00:56:20,639 --> 00:56:26,069 that they discuss. That's really it. That's all they do. 1003 00:56:27,030 --> 00:56:28,500 John C Dvorak: Well, as long as they win awards, 1004 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,580 Adam Curry: and abroad, they're very very, very happy about 1005 00:56:32,580 --> 00:56:34,350 their award. They think they're great. 1006 00:56:34,500 --> 00:56:36,090 John C Dvorak: Who they get an award from. 1007 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,790 Adam Curry: Oh, it's like a it was a big award like the 1008 00:56:38,790 --> 00:56:40,350 webisodes are one of those 1009 00:56:40,380 --> 00:56:41,220 John C Dvorak: Oh, webby. 1010 00:56:41,250 --> 00:56:44,940 Adam Curry: Yeah. webby. Have you ever won a Webby? 1011 00:56:45,420 --> 00:56:50,310 John C Dvorak: No, only really, we had a woman who started the 1012 00:56:50,310 --> 00:56:53,010 web. He's on the old silicon spin show. She was actually part 1013 00:56:53,010 --> 00:56:57,210 of, I think she worked at Tech TV for a while. And very nice, 1014 00:56:57,270 --> 00:57:03,390 nice, nice girl who was kind of a pretty blonde that was kind of 1015 00:57:03,390 --> 00:57:08,010 like over over made up or quite attractive. And in a funny kind 1016 00:57:08,010 --> 00:57:13,140 of a high schoolish way then one of the girls that was also a 1017 00:57:13,140 --> 00:57:17,670 staffer knew her in high school. And she was one of those good 1018 00:57:17,670 --> 00:57:22,260 looking Mean Girls, where we had, and she was she hated her. 1019 00:57:22,650 --> 00:57:24,750 And I said, well, she's nice, and she was good on the show. 1020 00:57:24,750 --> 00:57:30,150 She's very charming, charming, sharp, and inventive, and can 1021 00:57:30,150 --> 00:57:34,230 manage to make these webs work. I was very impressed by her. Let 1022 00:57:34,230 --> 00:57:35,280 me say number name. 1023 00:57:36,180 --> 00:57:39,270 Adam Curry: It's, I know the guy who produces that friend of mine 1024 00:57:39,270 --> 00:57:43,140 actually produces the award show itself and he's not cheap. He 1025 00:57:43,140 --> 00:57:46,770 does very, very expensive stuff. I'm trying to find this award 1026 00:57:46,770 --> 00:57:48,720 that they want I can't seem to find it. 1027 00:57:49,710 --> 00:57:53,670 John C Dvorak: The their partner award, we should win the 1028 00:57:53,670 --> 00:57:54,390 Peabody. 1029 00:57:55,860 --> 00:57:57,840 Adam Curry: You've said this several Hey, I'm still waiting 1030 00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:01,680 for my for my production of war sound award. 1031 00:58:03,270 --> 00:58:08,370 John C Dvorak: Don't worry, you're gonna get it. From A to B 1032 00:58:08,370 --> 00:58:10,710 from the audio engineers are one of those guys 1033 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,130 Adam Curry: that they never even televised those. Well, you're 1034 00:58:14,130 --> 00:58:14,670 not gonna get 1035 00:58:14,670 --> 00:58:15,750 John C Dvorak: televised. 1036 00:58:16,350 --> 00:58:17,220 Adam Curry: But you don't even get an 1037 00:58:18,570 --> 00:58:20,970 John C Dvorak: audio guy ever gets on television. 1038 00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:26,310 Adam Curry: I want Ricky Gervais to accept for me. I accept the 1039 00:58:26,310 --> 00:58:29,820 on behalf of curry. Meanwhile, the American public is not 1040 00:58:29,820 --> 00:58:33,840 foolish. Now they know exactly what's going on C span is where 1041 00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,990 they they air their grievances because hey, it's television. 1042 00:58:37,259 --> 00:58:43,379 Unknown: Good morning. Thanks for taking my call. 62 1043 00:58:47,070 --> 00:58:48,600 Adam Curry: Thanks for taking my call. 1044 00:58:48,630 --> 00:58:54,090 Unknown: I've never seen our country in such turmoil. You 1045 00:58:54,090 --> 00:58:58,260 know, Donald Trump, as much as people hate that man. He's given 1046 00:58:58,260 --> 00:59:03,120 us a peek behind the curtains, how things work. For example, 1047 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:08,520 your last segment regarding the war. It's funny how the media, 1048 00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:14,130 they don't quite live. They just give you one side of the story. 1049 00:59:14,610 --> 00:59:19,020 The media is in bed with the politicians, the National 1050 00:59:19,020 --> 00:59:26,730 Security Agency spying on a president changing elections. We 1051 00:59:26,730 --> 00:59:33,180 have a war in Ukraine. That was started by us. We blew up the 1052 00:59:33,180 --> 00:59:37,980 Nord Stream pipeline. We're letting millions of immigrants 1053 00:59:38,310 --> 00:59:40,260 flow across our border. 1054 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,550 How do we how do we blow up the Nord Stream pipeline? 1055 00:59:46,860 --> 00:59:52,500 Well, again, if the media would do their job, The New York Times 1056 00:59:52,950 --> 00:59:58,500 journalist as wrote about this in detail wrote about it and how 1057 00:59:58,500 --> 01:00:03,450 this was done. Joe Biden even set it on television not quite 1058 01:00:03,450 --> 01:00:07,050 said we're gonna do it. But he was asked how you're going to 1059 01:00:07,050 --> 01:00:12,240 stop the pipeline. He said, We got ways to do it. Now the media 1060 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:17,310 would get on board. You guys are supposed to be. You're in the 1061 01:00:17,310 --> 01:00:21,270 Constitution you you're protecting the people. But 1062 01:00:21,270 --> 01:00:25,260 you're all in cahoots with the politicians, the establishment, 1063 01:00:25,470 --> 01:00:29,400 the very powerful people the Bilderberg people, right? 1064 01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:35,730 Billionaires global world order. They want us eaten by a 1065 01:00:35,730 --> 01:00:41,430 Democratic women women or men, every institution upside down. 1066 01:00:41,700 --> 01:00:44,130 Nobody trusts anybody anymore. 1067 01:00:45,810 --> 01:00:48,900 Let's stop right there. Let's go to Sandra who's calling from 1068 01:00:48,900 --> 01:00:51,630 Tennessee. All the independent life. 1069 01:00:51,660 --> 01:00:55,020 John C Dvorak: Alright, well, today for that guy. 1070 01:00:55,050 --> 01:00:57,780 Unknown: That's very, very good. 1071 01:00:59,370 --> 01:01:02,940 John C Dvorak: That was the that's the black Democrat Host. 1072 01:01:02,940 --> 01:01:09,450 Yeah, the big bugs I call these really hates Trump. Oh, well, 1073 01:01:09,510 --> 01:01:13,860 Adam Curry: let's play this one for him. Then a just in the I 1074 01:01:13,860 --> 01:01:17,970 don't know how this gets out video of Trump's deposition in 1075 01:01:17,970 --> 01:01:22,740 the accusation. This is great. This is only a little piece and 1076 01:01:22,740 --> 01:01:26,460 there's no it's on YouTube. So they had to censor out the word 1077 01:01:26,460 --> 01:01:29,550 rape for some reason. I guess YouTube kicks it off if you have 1078 01:01:29,550 --> 01:01:33,630 rape in there. But it's the President being deposed about E. 1079 01:01:33,630 --> 01:01:37,350 J. Carroll. We when she first came out with this accusation a 1080 01:01:37,350 --> 01:01:40,440 couple years ago, we played several clips was so 1081 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,830 embarrassing that even Anderson Cooper would just like take this 1082 01:01:43,830 --> 01:01:47,340 woman off the air when she was like yeah, rapists sexy This is 1083 01:01:47,490 --> 01:01:52,230 that she's a nut job frightening. And people are 1084 01:01:52,230 --> 01:01:55,080 sending me these clips like it's new. Hey, look at Anderson 1085 01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:58,740 Cooper did Yeah, four years ago whenever it was. But here's a 1086 01:01:58,740 --> 01:02:00,000 little piece of the deposition. 1087 01:02:00,030 --> 01:02:04,290 Unknown: Okay, then you go on to say in the statements. And while 1088 01:02:04,290 --> 01:02:06,420 I am not supposed to say it, I will. 1089 01:02:07,380 --> 01:02:09,630 Why were you not supposed to say 1090 01:02:09,630 --> 01:02:13,920 it? Because it's not politically correct to say, read the next go 1091 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,970 ahead. That she's not my type. Because it's not politically 1092 01:02:17,970 --> 01:02:20,790 correct to say it, and I know that but I'll say it anyway. 1093 01:02:21,090 --> 01:02:25,830 She's accusing me of a woman that I have no idea who she is 1094 01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:31,140 the worst thing you can do the worst charge. And, and you know, 1095 01:02:31,140 --> 01:02:34,710 it's you know, it's not true to your political operative. Also 1096 01:02:34,740 --> 01:02:39,000 your disk. You're a disgrace. But she's accusing me and so you 1097 01:02:39,030 --> 01:02:43,980 have, and it never took place. And I will tell you, I made that 1098 01:02:43,980 --> 01:02:47,010 statement. I said, Well, it's politically incorrect. She's not 1099 01:02:47,010 --> 01:02:50,760 my type. And that's 100%. True. She's not my type. 1100 01:02:50,910 --> 01:02:54,990 You are referring to her physical looks correct. Just the 1101 01:02:54,990 --> 01:02:55,710 overall not 1102 01:02:55,740 --> 01:03:00,180 my I look at her. I see her I hear what she says. Whatever. 1103 01:03:00,270 --> 01:03:02,760 You wouldn't be a choice of mine either. To be honest with you, I 1104 01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,700 hope you're not insulted. I would not, under any 1105 01:03:05,730 --> 01:03:10,410 circumstances have any interest in you. Be honest, when I say 1106 01:03:10,410 --> 01:03:13,050 it, the only difference between me and other people as I'm 1107 01:03:13,050 --> 01:03:13,710 honest. 1108 01:03:15,090 --> 01:03:19,080 John C Dvorak: I love I was watching some of the analysis of 1109 01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:22,620 this. And there are guys I know are Trump haters on certain 1110 01:03:22,620 --> 01:03:25,410 networks. Yeah. And they just thought it was the funniest 1111 01:03:25,410 --> 01:03:29,160 thing that because you have to admire a guy who goes in a 1112 01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:32,550 deposition and he's calling out the lawyer on the other side for 1113 01:03:32,550 --> 01:03:32,970 being 1114 01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:39,120 Adam Curry: not not as tight homely. Just for people refresh 1115 01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:43,080 people's memory that was 2019 June 27 is when we have the clip 1116 01:03:43,290 --> 01:03:47,790 of E Jean Carroll talking to Anderson Cooper, about about 1117 01:03:47,820 --> 01:03:50,280 this rape and what she thinks of rape. You don't feel 1118 01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:52,440 Unknown: like a victim. I was not thrown on the ground and 1119 01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:56,370 ravish which the word rape carries so many sexual 1120 01:03:56,700 --> 01:04:02,610 connotations. This was not this was not sexual. It just It hurt. 1121 01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,710 It just was it just you know, I think 1122 01:04:04,710 --> 01:04:07,380 John C Dvorak: most people think of rape as I mean it is a 1123 01:04:07,380 --> 01:04:09,750 violent assault. It is not I think 1124 01:04:09,750 --> 01:04:13,110 Unknown: most people think of rape as being sexy. Go to 1125 01:04:13,110 --> 01:04:18,840 commercial fantasies. We've just got to take a quick break. If 1126 01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:22,470 you can stick around we'll talk more fascinating to talk to you. 1127 01:04:24,930 --> 01:04:26,790 John C Dvorak: Oh wow, I forgot about that. 1128 01:04:27,299 --> 01:04:29,909 Adam Curry: That's horrible for that woman say that that's 1129 01:04:29,909 --> 01:04:32,519 horrible. Horrible. 1130 01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,030 John C Dvorak: And by the you know in a dressing room Have you 1131 01:04:36,030 --> 01:04:39,720 ever been I've been in a number of these do you have much 1132 01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:42,870 anymore, but in these department stores had the dressing rooms 1133 01:04:43,020 --> 01:04:45,960 get through somebody on the floors, no room in those things. 1134 01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:48,270 Not like a lounge 1135 01:04:48,299 --> 01:04:50,369 Adam Curry: you haven't been into the women's dressing rooms. 1136 01:04:50,849 --> 01:04:54,779 They got definitely got lounges in there as well. There's party 1137 01:04:54,779 --> 01:04:58,079 to get champagne bars and got all kinds of stuff going in the 1138 01:04:58,079 --> 01:05:02,429 wrong store. At meanwhile, Oh, it looks like MSNBC is 1139 01:05:02,429 --> 01:05:06,809 definitely trying to take down President Biden, you know, as 1140 01:05:06,809 --> 01:05:10,559 you said, the word is out. It's take down Biden time, 1141 01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,380 Unknown: in less than four weeks, the government's going to 1142 01:05:13,380 --> 01:05:17,130 run out of money. And so many of these economic winds could fall 1143 01:05:17,130 --> 01:05:21,900 by the wayside as president, what are you going to do to help 1144 01:05:21,900 --> 01:05:23,220 us avoid default? 1145 01:05:23,370 --> 01:05:27,120 Look, look, look, not as long ago solitary Congress has ever 1146 01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,600 reneged on a debt. The debt is not a debt that I accumulated, 1147 01:05:30,690 --> 01:05:33,480 the debt is not a debt that occurred over the last several 1148 01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:39,030 years. It's 200 years, the debt 200 years. And the idea that we 1149 01:05:39,030 --> 01:05:42,090 wouldn't pay our debt is bizarre. 1150 01:05:43,740 --> 01:05:48,510 Adam Curry: You know, I've always noticed this. I remember 1151 01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,750 Dave Winer would write about it, you know, Dave and I, we 1152 01:05:52,950 --> 01:05:57,150 invented podcasting together. But when it comes to the debt 1153 01:05:57,150 --> 01:06:01,080 ceiling, he's like, this is where America is our full faith 1154 01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:04,290 and credit. I mean, of course, we have to we have to print more 1155 01:06:04,290 --> 01:06:07,440 money, we have to borrow more money. And I've never understood 1156 01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:11,760 that, that that it's like it's embedded in people's brains. We 1157 01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:15,390 all know, what are you talking about? That's just crazy talk. 1158 01:06:15,420 --> 01:06:18,030 We've we've always done that. 200 years. You heard the 1159 01:06:18,030 --> 01:06:22,800 President say it, and believe it or not a economist of the of the 1160 01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:27,390 country, Nobel Peace Prize, Nobel economic Prize winning 1161 01:06:27,570 --> 01:06:33,450 economist Paul Krugman, on May 3, says, again, minting a $1 1162 01:06:33,450 --> 01:06:37,890 trillion coin to prevent a debt ceiling crisis is possible would 1163 01:06:37,890 --> 01:06:45,600 not be inflationary. How I mean, is this. Am I crazy? I mean, 1164 01:06:45,630 --> 01:06:52,260 we've just we've heard this for so many years. Though a trillion 1165 01:06:52,260 --> 01:06:55,170 dollar it could it be? It has to be platinum. Best to be 1166 01:06:55,170 --> 01:06:57,660 platinum. It wouldn't wait before 1167 01:06:57,660 --> 01:07:00,750 John C Dvorak: you go off and off on this. You didn't have the 1168 01:07:00,750 --> 01:07:02,940 Trump are you talking about Trump and the rape? 1169 01:07:03,060 --> 01:07:05,520 Adam Curry: Oh, well, I have I have another Biden thing from 1170 01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:09,090 Stephanie. Rule two, I have trumping the rape, which I would 1171 01:07:09,180 --> 01:07:11,310 trump in the rape. Is that a show? Is that a show titled 1172 01:07:11,310 --> 01:07:13,170 Trump in the rape? No. 1173 01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,740 John C Dvorak: Rape would be nice in the title. All right. I 1174 01:07:16,740 --> 01:07:19,140 just want to play these two clips. One is just Trump. He 1175 01:07:19,140 --> 01:07:25,320 wants to change the venue for the rape trial, or DOJ This is 1176 01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,540 no this isn't the Wright brothers. The other trial bus, 1177 01:07:27,540 --> 01:07:31,050 you know, it's just a harassment trial. This is the one for him 1178 01:07:31,050 --> 01:07:32,490 and his election fraud. 1179 01:07:32,879 --> 01:07:35,189 Unknown: And other news The Trump legal team is reportedly 1180 01:07:35,189 --> 01:07:38,129 trying to move the former president's criminal case from 1181 01:07:38,129 --> 01:07:41,849 New York City to a federal court and if successful, they could 1182 01:07:41,849 --> 01:07:45,449 mean a more favorable outcome for Trump. Shifting to federal 1183 01:07:45,449 --> 01:07:48,269 court could give Trump an advantage because it would 1184 01:07:48,269 --> 01:07:51,929 expand the possible jury pool outside of Manhattan where more 1185 01:07:51,929 --> 01:07:55,589 voters favored President Biden and Democrats. A federal judge 1186 01:07:55,589 --> 01:07:58,469 would have to approve their request. The 45th President 1187 01:07:58,499 --> 01:08:02,399 entered a not guilty plea to 34 felony counts of falsifying 1188 01:08:02,399 --> 01:08:05,399 business records. It's in connection to payments that his 1189 01:08:05,399 --> 01:08:09,449 campaign made during the 2016 election to silence allegations 1190 01:08:09,449 --> 01:08:13,049 about an affair. Trump has denied having an affair and also 1191 01:08:13,049 --> 01:08:15,029 denied any wrongdoing in the case. 1192 01:08:15,210 --> 01:08:19,170 Adam Curry: It's quite a stretch. The way they explain 1193 01:08:19,170 --> 01:08:20,520 what that trial is about it's 1194 01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,400 John C Dvorak: quite as Yeah, it is kind of a stretch but but it 1195 01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:29,190 brought me to this old supercut supercar this is this pretty 1196 01:08:29,190 --> 01:08:32,070 much the same kind of thing that happened to John it may what 1197 01:08:32,070 --> 01:08:36,180 happened on air was it was right to John Edwards case where he 1198 01:08:36,180 --> 01:08:39,540 actually not only had an affair with a woman that he brought 1199 01:08:39,540 --> 01:08:44,640 bought off with campaign funds. But she had a kid she had a 1200 01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:48,810 child by him and it was like, a little more, more sleazy. I 1201 01:08:48,810 --> 01:08:52,470 think Trump went through But Leslie but the mainstream media 1202 01:08:52,470 --> 01:08:54,600 meanwhile, doesn't have this didn't have the same kind of 1203 01:08:54,660 --> 01:08:58,920 fire. We got Trump now he's going to jail. Jails again. 1204 01:08:59,430 --> 01:09:03,000 Let's listen to how they treated the John Edwards the same 1205 01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,540 mainstream media people with the exception of a few got axed. In 1206 01:09:06,540 --> 01:09:08,550 the meantime, there are back in the day 1207 01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,470 Unknown: growing questions tonight over whether the 1208 01:09:10,470 --> 01:09:12,780 government overreached and its indictment of former 1209 01:09:12,780 --> 01:09:15,900 presidential candidate John Edwards Edwards is accused of 1210 01:09:15,900 --> 01:09:19,020 using campaign funds to hide an extramarital affair. 1211 01:09:19,050 --> 01:09:21,360 There are growing questions over the indictment a former 1212 01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:24,120 presidential candidate John Edwards for allegedly using 1213 01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:27,090 campaign funds to hide an affair. Did the government 1214 01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:27,870 overreach 1215 01:09:27,900 --> 01:09:29,760 This looks like one of those things you read about in third 1216 01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,280 world countries or India somewhere in Pakistan? When they 1217 01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:34,200 get somebody's been out of office a couple of years get 1218 01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,480 them while they're down hit it with some incredible charge with 1219 01:09:36,480 --> 01:09:39,270 campaign funding that nobody's ever heard of before and put 1220 01:09:39,270 --> 01:09:41,580 them away for a while. It just looks like revenge. 1221 01:09:41,610 --> 01:09:43,410 Adam Curry: Should we remind everybody John Edwards was a 1222 01:09:43,410 --> 01:09:45,990 Democrat I think this you kind of missed Oh, yes. John 1223 01:09:45,990 --> 01:09:49,800 John C Dvorak: Edwards was a Democrat. Hello. Right. Right in 1224 01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:52,890 the setup there that is the main thing to note that's the main 1225 01:09:52,890 --> 01:09:53,250 difference 1226 01:09:53,250 --> 01:09:55,530 Unknown: credible charge with campaign funding that nobody's 1227 01:09:55,530 --> 01:09:58,080 ever heard of before and put them away for a while. It just 1228 01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,990 looks like revenge against the party. against somebody lost an 1229 01:10:00,990 --> 01:10:01,380 election, 1230 01:10:01,410 --> 01:10:04,230 even if most of the facts prove true, there already is 1231 01:10:04,230 --> 01:10:08,100 controversy over whether it all amounts to a federal crime 1232 01:10:08,100 --> 01:10:08,580 critics 1233 01:10:08,580 --> 01:10:11,460 blast the government's case against the former presidential 1234 01:10:11,460 --> 01:10:14,640 candidate. Why they say what he did may not have been against 1235 01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:15,480 the law today. 1236 01:10:15,510 --> 01:10:19,470 So I guess the question is, is is CAD or criminal? I 1237 01:10:19,470 --> 01:10:21,780 mean, there are people who are saying that this indictment is 1238 01:10:21,780 --> 01:10:25,200 very questionable. A Washington Post editorial said it is 1239 01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,450 troubling that the Justice Department would choose to 1240 01:10:27,450 --> 01:10:31,740 devote its scarce resources to pursuing this questionable case. 1241 01:10:31,770 --> 01:10:34,710 Even some of those with no love for AdWords are scratching their 1242 01:10:34,710 --> 01:10:35,910 heads over the charges. 1243 01:10:35,940 --> 01:10:39,780 Even some who find Edwards behavior despicable question, 1244 01:10:39,870 --> 01:10:42,390 the strength of this case, leave him alone. 1245 01:10:42,510 --> 01:10:44,850 I mean, why waste our effort on that? What 1246 01:10:44,850 --> 01:10:46,740 are your what's your political view? Do you think it's politics 1247 01:10:46,740 --> 01:10:49,320 and as prosecute? Was it just a Republican US Attorney going 1248 01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,570 after this guy sticking around to do the dirty work for the 1249 01:10:51,570 --> 01:10:55,650 Adam Curry: arts? Yeah, yeah. Well, the difference is clear. 1250 01:10:56,070 --> 01:10:57,900 It was a Democrat versus a 1251 01:10:57,900 --> 01:11:00,330 John C Dvorak: Republican. But of course, it was just to be 1252 01:11:00,330 --> 01:11:01,620 noted, It should be noted, 1253 01:11:01,890 --> 01:11:03,660 Adam Curry: I want to go back to the trillion dollar coin for a 1254 01:11:03,660 --> 01:11:06,510 second because this is all part of what is supposed to take down 1255 01:11:06,510 --> 01:11:11,160 Joe Biden. And Krugman who says and he tweeted this, so you 1256 01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:15,780 know, is he's serious, quote, the Fed would surely sterilize 1257 01:11:15,780 --> 01:11:19,410 any impact on the monetary base by selling off some of its huge 1258 01:11:19,410 --> 01:11:24,060 portfolio of US debt, suggesting the Fed would likely sell $1 1259 01:11:24,060 --> 01:11:27,870 trillion worth of government bonds. In fact, he says, it's 1260 01:11:27,870 --> 01:11:30,660 more likely that the Federal Reserve, the government would 1261 01:11:30,660 --> 01:11:34,830 issue premium bonds to avoid default, then mint the $1 1262 01:11:34,830 --> 01:11:38,040 trillion coin, but he says the trillion dollar coin would not 1263 01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:42,030 be inflated, it would not be inflationary. And and he says 1264 01:11:42,030 --> 01:11:44,760 that the Fed Chairman probably wouldn't accept it. I mean, 1265 01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:47,370 would you have some dude came up and said, Hey, I got a trillion 1266 01:11:47,370 --> 01:11:50,820 dollar platinum could be wanted. I don't think I'd accepted 1267 01:11:50,820 --> 01:11:51,360 either. 1268 01:11:52,290 --> 01:11:54,690 John C Dvorak: Somebody gave me a trillion dollars worth of 1269 01:11:54,690 --> 01:11:58,500 platinum. No. Yeah, right. I think is it 1200 bucks. I'm not 1270 01:11:58,500 --> 01:12:02,550 sure what it is announced. But 900 at 1200. That means, 1271 01:12:02,610 --> 01:12:04,860 Adam Curry: meanwhile, we just have bank after bank going out 1272 01:12:04,860 --> 01:12:09,810 of business. This is kind of fun. Now that works. Alright, 1273 01:12:09,810 --> 01:12:13,110 back to taking the take down of President Joe Biden was 1274 01:12:13,110 --> 01:12:18,450 Stephanie rule, who is also a finance Insider. The boys at the 1275 01:12:18,450 --> 01:12:19,920 trading floor loved her. 1276 01:12:20,309 --> 01:12:22,619 Unknown: He was officially announced you're running for 1277 01:12:22,619 --> 01:12:26,579 reelection. And in your first video, you feature vice 1278 01:12:26,579 --> 01:12:31,439 president Harris 10 times when Obama was in that position? He 1279 01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:34,379 didn't mention you, sir. What are you trying to tell us? 1280 01:12:34,530 --> 01:12:38,310 Adam Curry: Wow, what's the what would the SIR business Stephanie 1281 01:12:38,790 --> 01:12:43,530 was pretty rude? Or what is she trying to be? As this like I 1282 01:12:43,530 --> 01:12:45,870 John C Dvorak: was, I thought that was a very rude way of 1283 01:12:45,870 --> 01:12:47,760 asking that question. In fact, 1284 01:12:47,790 --> 01:12:51,000 Adam Curry: I have a feeling that these questions were 1285 01:12:51,270 --> 01:12:54,960 inserted later. You know how they do an over the shoulder, 1286 01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:55,410 but 1287 01:12:55,410 --> 01:12:57,630 John C Dvorak: I don't believe it. Now. They can't you you 1288 01:12:57,630 --> 01:13:01,920 think that's that's chicken shit. Stephanie rule 1289 01:13:01,980 --> 01:13:05,400 Unknown: when Obama was in that position? He didn't mention you, 1290 01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:09,240 sir. Sir. What are you trying to tell us? Well, 1291 01:13:09,870 --> 01:13:13,680 Adam Curry: did you just laugh at him? She laughed in his face. 1292 01:13:14,130 --> 01:13:17,070 Unknown: What are you trying to tell us? Well, 1293 01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:21,570 Adam Curry: whether that was edited or not, that's a lot. Now 1294 01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:22,650 that she laughed at him. 1295 01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:23,460 Unknown: What are you trying to? 1296 01:13:24,990 --> 01:13:29,070 Well, the President did well, and I became very good friends. 1297 01:13:29,070 --> 01:13:33,390 I we just have a slightly different style of how we do 1298 01:13:33,390 --> 01:13:40,380 things, as you recall. So every major initiative President Obama 1299 01:13:40,380 --> 01:13:44,370 had, I was the last guy in the room, deciding that with him 1300 01:13:44,370 --> 01:13:48,510 giving him any advice on what we should do. And he's committed to 1301 01:13:48,510 --> 01:13:52,680 help in any way can this time out? Whoa. But look, I just 1302 01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:55,290 think the Vice President Harris hasn't gotten the credit she 1303 01:13:55,290 --> 01:14:01,200 deserves. She's an attorney in the state of California. She has 1304 01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:05,130 been a United States Senator, she is really very, very good. 1305 01:14:05,580 --> 01:14:08,490 And with everything going on, she hasn't gotten the attention 1306 01:14:08,490 --> 01:14:09,420 she deserves. 1307 01:14:10,890 --> 01:14:14,070 Adam Curry: Well, she's getting it now. Because she's in charge 1308 01:14:14,100 --> 01:14:19,470 of the AI. Danger, danger, danger AI is going to take over 1309 01:14:19,470 --> 01:14:22,860 the world it's going to steal your job. But luckily, Kamala 1310 01:14:22,860 --> 01:14:25,230 Harris, Vice President to the rescue, 1311 01:14:25,260 --> 01:14:28,080 Unknown: the White House is now signaling its support for some 1312 01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:31,350 rules and regulations surrounding the launch, if you 1313 01:14:31,350 --> 01:14:33,990 will of artificial intelligence as the new technology begins to 1314 01:14:33,990 --> 01:14:36,660 disrupt a number of industries with some experts warning can 1315 01:14:36,660 --> 01:14:39,360 end up wreaking havoc on society, if not properly 1316 01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:42,810 constrained, by administration hosted a meeting today with a 1317 01:14:42,810 --> 01:14:45,840 number of big tech executives to discuss the risks posed by AI 1318 01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:48,960 while also discussing potential safeguards. And a statement the 1319 01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,030 vice president Kamala Harris, who took part in the meeting 1320 01:14:51,030 --> 01:14:53,820 warned that AI has the quote, potential to dramatically 1321 01:14:53,820 --> 01:14:57,540 increase threats to safety and security, infringe on civil 1322 01:14:57,540 --> 01:14:59,970 rights and privacy and erode public trust and faith. 1323 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,030 democracy civil rights Exactly. uplifting. Wait, wait, 1324 01:15:03,030 --> 01:15:05,340 Adam Curry: wait. Let's see. Let's see those dangers again, 1325 01:15:05,340 --> 01:15:07,440 write them down. We want to make sure that this doesn't happen 1326 01:15:07,500 --> 01:15:11,040 John C Dvorak: is like bull crap. I mean, how how does it 1327 01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,710 have to do with any of this? So I know I know what's going on 1328 01:15:13,710 --> 01:15:14,040 here. Hold 1329 01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:15,930 Unknown: on the statement, the Vice President Kamala Harris, 1330 01:15:15,930 --> 01:15:18,540 who took part in the meeting warned that AI has the glory 1331 01:15:18,540 --> 01:15:18,870 attention. 1332 01:15:18,900 --> 01:15:21,420 Adam Curry: Did she take part in she lead the meeting, and I 1333 01:15:21,420 --> 01:15:25,140 think that that's a slam right there from NBC. She led the 1334 01:15:25,140 --> 01:15:25,950 meeting Chuck 1335 01:15:25,980 --> 01:15:27,780 Unknown: statement, the Vice President Kamala Harris, who 1336 01:15:27,780 --> 01:15:30,720 took part in the meeting warned that AI has the potential to 1337 01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:34,290 dramatically increase threats to safety and security and fringe 1338 01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:37,680 on civil rights and privacy and erode public trust and faith in 1339 01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:41,760 democracy. Faith exactly uplifting faith in democracy. 1340 01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:44,520 Today's meeting comes days after the so called godfather of AI 1341 01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:46,980 says he left Google to more freely speak out about the 1342 01:15:46,980 --> 01:15:48,750 dangers that technology can pose. 1343 01:15:49,140 --> 01:15:52,380 Adam Curry: Alright, so a couple things. This is the oldest trick 1344 01:15:52,380 --> 01:15:57,600 in the book. This is now remember, our general thesis is 1345 01:15:58,260 --> 01:16:02,220 the ad market has gone incredibly soft. The big tech 1346 01:16:02,220 --> 01:16:07,140 companies had staffed up during COVID they tick tock caveman 1347 01:16:07,140 --> 01:16:10,350 started to threaten everybody's business certainly met us 1348 01:16:10,350 --> 01:16:14,700 business and even Google's we know fact that Google from 1349 01:16:14,700 --> 01:16:18,120 Google's own internal research one out of two people search for 1350 01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:21,180 things on Tik Tok before they search on Google Tik Tok has 1351 01:16:21,210 --> 01:16:26,190 entered the search ad market place. And what do you do when 1352 01:16:26,190 --> 01:16:30,210 your notice who wasn't at the table? Tik Tok wasn't at the 1353 01:16:30,210 --> 01:16:33,870 table bytedance wasn't at the table that I'm aware of. You 1354 01:16:33,870 --> 01:16:36,720 know, all you do is you go you go to the you go to the 1355 01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:39,660 government you say look, we got a new thing here. This is the 1356 01:16:39,660 --> 01:16:43,740 new new thing. It's the hot thing everybody wants it. AI is 1357 01:16:44,580 --> 01:16:49,290 what can we can call ai ai is is the new blockchain. Yeah, that's 1358 01:16:49,290 --> 01:16:52,380 it. AI is the new blockchain blockchain blockchain. Do we 1359 01:16:52,380 --> 01:16:53,610 remember blockchain horror 1360 01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:55,650 John C Dvorak: horror was an I used to come at during the 1361 01:16:55,650 --> 01:17:00,360 heyday of blockchain. Now, these these moribund companies would 1362 01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:03,780 come up and all of a sudden introduced we're gonna have 1363 01:17:03,810 --> 01:17:06,810 blockchain they just say the word and the stock would go up 1364 01:17:06,810 --> 01:17:10,290 five point riot was famous. Now it's the same thing with AI, the 1365 01:17:10,290 --> 01:17:11,370 stock goes right up. 1366 01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:14,220 Adam Curry: Yep. So what do you what do you want to do is you 1367 01:17:14,220 --> 01:17:18,360 want to make sure that and this is why we had this letter signed 1368 01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:22,530 the open letter by Elon Musk, who as you notice has no AI 1369 01:17:22,530 --> 01:17:26,730 play, he doesn't have a play. So that was all ordered, slow down, 1370 01:17:26,730 --> 01:17:29,220 but slow down by six, six months, at least. So by can 1371 01:17:29,220 --> 01:17:34,980 catch up with my AI play. So it's the new blockchain and then 1372 01:17:35,010 --> 01:17:39,540 the getting ahead of the game this time. This is we need a new 1373 01:17:39,540 --> 01:17:43,980 or expanded section 230 Something that new entrants into 1374 01:17:43,980 --> 01:17:48,660 the AI space cannot compete with because they won't have the 1375 01:17:48,660 --> 01:17:51,450 money. This is the old that's why it's communist job. We all 1376 01:17:51,450 --> 01:17:55,110 know what the idea is here. They're all there in DC, not for 1377 01:17:55,110 --> 01:17:59,160 this dumb meeting, that they're at every one every senator and 1378 01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:02,010 Congressman's door. I'm talking about, you know, what kind of 1379 01:18:02,010 --> 01:18:04,860 legislation can we put in place of no other people can get into 1380 01:18:04,860 --> 01:18:09,330 our coveted AI space? By gotta go do the stupid meeting with 1381 01:18:09,330 --> 01:18:12,870 the Vice President for a minute photo op. That's all they of 1382 01:18:12,870 --> 01:18:15,990 course, they want regulation. They love it. They want the 1383 01:18:15,990 --> 01:18:19,560 regulation so they can own the space. And that just does. 1384 01:18:19,590 --> 01:18:23,430 John C Dvorak: Yeah, absolutely. This is the general no agenda 1385 01:18:23,430 --> 01:18:24,150 thesis how you 1386 01:18:24,150 --> 01:18:27,750 Adam Curry: do it. Now you heard in that report. And we discussed 1387 01:18:27,750 --> 01:18:32,460 this on the last show that the godfather of AI that he had left 1388 01:18:32,460 --> 01:18:36,480 Google so he could speak freely about it. Because I don't know 1389 01:18:36,480 --> 01:18:39,870 if Google like some kind of Gulag where you can't talk. Like 1390 01:18:39,870 --> 01:18:43,380 when you work there. It's like, oh, you can't discuss anything. 1391 01:18:43,590 --> 01:18:43,710 What 1392 01:18:43,950 --> 01:18:46,890 John C Dvorak: we should mention. If all this is true, 1393 01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:50,400 they would have had him sign an NDA upon his resignation for a 1394 01:18:50,550 --> 01:18:54,900 pot of money. And he wouldn't be talking at all. So he's out 1395 01:18:54,900 --> 01:18:57,900 there talking because he's allowed to talk or they move on 1396 01:18:57,900 --> 01:18:59,010 him to talk or something 1397 01:18:59,220 --> 01:19:02,370 Adam Curry: on tables or talk may be the right one. And the 1398 01:19:02,370 --> 01:19:08,520 big get was for PBS. PBS News Hour, completely independent. 1399 01:19:09,300 --> 01:19:13,140 They have the get and we know the guy's name now. He has three 1400 01:19:13,140 --> 01:19:18,510 names, like any criminal, Jeff Bennett, Jeffrey Hilton Hinton, 1401 01:19:19,290 --> 01:19:23,310 Jeff Bennett. No, it can't be it. Geoffrey Hinton I don't even 1402 01:19:23,310 --> 01:19:24,690 know the guy's name. Let's listen to him. 1403 01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:27,180 Unknown: This has been a week where concerns over the rapidly 1404 01:19:27,180 --> 01:19:29,820 expanding use of artificial intelligence and I think 1405 01:19:29,820 --> 01:19:32,490 Adam Curry: the general Jeff Bennett is the PBS guy Geoffrey 1406 01:19:32,490 --> 01:19:36,420 Hinton, Geoffrey Hinton, this AI guy, I've misread my own titles 1407 01:19:36,570 --> 01:19:39,570 Unknown: resonated loudly in Washington and around the world 1408 01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:42,750 Adam Curry: row resonated loudly. It was it was the was 1409 01:19:42,750 --> 01:19:45,960 the the resignation heard around the world, 1410 01:19:46,050 --> 01:19:47,910 Unknown: Vice President Carter the guy. 1411 01:19:49,980 --> 01:19:50,820 Adam Curry: Let's do that, again, 1412 01:19:50,879 --> 01:19:53,939 Unknown: resonated loudly in Washington and around the world. 1413 01:19:54,089 --> 01:19:57,419 Vice President Kamala Harris met yesterday with top executives 1414 01:19:57,419 --> 01:20:01,109 from companies leading in AI development my Microsoft Google 1415 01:20:01,169 --> 01:20:04,649 Open AI and anthropic the anthropic, as President 1416 01:20:04,649 --> 01:20:07,679 discussed some of the growing risks and told the companies 1417 01:20:07,799 --> 01:20:11,729 they had a, quote, moral obligation to develop AI safely. 1418 01:20:11,999 --> 01:20:15,209 That meeting came just days after one of the leading voices 1419 01:20:15,209 --> 01:20:18,749 in the field of AI. Dr. Geoffrey Hinton, announced he was 1420 01:20:18,749 --> 01:20:22,439 quitting Google over his worries about the future of AI, and what 1421 01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:25,469 it could eventually lead to unchecked. We're going to hear 1422 01:20:25,469 --> 01:20:28,559 about some of those concerns now with Dr. Geoffrey Hinton, who 1423 01:20:28,559 --> 01:20:29,819 joins me from London. 1424 01:20:30,270 --> 01:20:33,210 Adam Curry: See us escape to London doing in London is with 1425 01:20:33,210 --> 01:20:35,910 the coronation, of course, time to party down 1426 01:20:35,940 --> 01:20:37,740 Unknown: what are those risks? As you see it, 1427 01:20:37,770 --> 01:20:42,210 there are quite a few different risks. There's the risk of 1428 01:20:42,210 --> 01:20:45,060 producing a lot of fake news so nobody knows what's true 1429 01:20:45,060 --> 01:20:45,630 anymore. 1430 01:20:46,110 --> 01:20:48,780 Adam Curry: And we need AI for that. We need 1431 01:20:48,780 --> 01:20:51,900 John C Dvorak: AI for that Macedonia did the job just fine. 1432 01:20:51,900 --> 01:20:52,260 Yeah. How 1433 01:20:52,260 --> 01:20:54,330 Adam Curry: about the troll farms? They were great. We don't 1434 01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:57,900 know farm need AI? May be cheaper, but okay. 1435 01:20:58,680 --> 01:20:59,760 John C Dvorak: Is it even cheaper 1436 01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:04,260 Unknown: to have encouraging polarization? By getting people 1437 01:21:04,260 --> 01:21:06,090 to click on things that make them indignant? 1438 01:21:06,540 --> 01:21:09,990 John C Dvorak: What do you mean? What you mean, clickbait me 1439 01:21:09,990 --> 01:21:14,160 like, Hey, I can't do clickbait we do clickbait the American 1440 01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:17,280 creative types do clickbait and we do 1441 01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:20,970 Adam Curry: it great. We do we do. We do great clickbait, 1442 01:21:21,270 --> 01:21:25,620 Unknown: there's the risk of putting people out of work, that 1443 01:21:25,650 --> 01:21:28,380 it should be that when we make things more productive, when we 1444 01:21:28,380 --> 01:21:31,920 greatly increase productivity, it helps everybody. But there's 1445 01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:32,160 let me 1446 01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:36,000 Adam Curry: stop that for a second. i It is my belief that 1447 01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:40,890 no matter and I do not think AI is any risk or any opportunity, 1448 01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:43,350 honestly, I mean, there's some writing opportunities, okay. 1449 01:21:43,350 --> 01:21:46,470 It's a large language model. So it can do writing stuff very 1450 01:21:46,470 --> 01:21:51,600 good. With as with every new technology, stuff has to go 1451 01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:55,200 away. And then there's and jobs go away. And then there's new 1452 01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:59,580 jobs for that new opportunities. Isn't that what it always is? 1453 01:21:59,670 --> 01:22:03,150 It's not like us the way tech works, the tea the PC revolution 1454 01:22:03,150 --> 01:22:08,670 did not lead everybody job was created millions of jobs. Be 1455 01:22:08,670 --> 01:22:12,480 even the one that the automobile all the buggy drivers. Oh, they 1456 01:22:12,480 --> 01:22:16,290 were going after that, what do we get? We get cab drivers. And 1457 01:22:16,290 --> 01:22:19,020 then Uber came along, and then everybody was a cab driver, it 1458 01:22:19,020 --> 01:22:23,340 only gets better, right? This is patently not true. But there's 1459 01:22:23,340 --> 01:22:25,860 Unknown: the worry that it might just help the rich. And then 1460 01:22:25,860 --> 01:22:27,180 there's the risk that I like to 1461 01:22:27,210 --> 01:22:30,960 John C Dvorak: help the rich help the rich, brother, 1462 01:22:31,590 --> 01:22:32,580 communist. 1463 01:22:33,390 --> 01:22:35,220 Unknown: But there's the worry that it might just help the 1464 01:22:35,220 --> 01:22:37,950 rich. And then there's the risk that I want to talk about. 1465 01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:42,900 John C Dvorak: We interrupt these fictitious clips in much. 1466 01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:48,780 Yeah, it's my worry. Yes. That this will help the rich. Yeah. 1467 01:22:48,810 --> 01:22:52,740 Why is he worried about it helping the rich he did to do? I 1468 01:22:52,740 --> 01:22:55,590 would have originally to help and Jugaad let's don't let them 1469 01:22:55,590 --> 01:22:59,700 get helped by AI is helping the rich somehow you call that he's 1470 01:23:00,150 --> 01:23:01,110 sanity? He's a 1471 01:23:01,110 --> 01:23:04,980 Adam Curry: commie? You called it? He if you left Google as the 1472 01:23:04,980 --> 01:23:09,030 godfather of AI, do you not have any stock? Any options? Are you 1473 01:23:09,030 --> 01:23:13,290 not rich, but hope he was maybe that's why he left 1474 01:23:13,350 --> 01:23:15,510 John C Dvorak: or maybe the whole thing is a scam these guys 1475 01:23:15,810 --> 01:23:17,880 work there. It should 1476 01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:20,100 Unknown: be that when we make things more productive, when we 1477 01:23:20,100 --> 01:23:23,640 greatly increase productivity, it helps everybody. But there's 1478 01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:26,340 the worry that it might just help the rich. And then there's 1479 01:23:26,340 --> 01:23:28,920 the risk that I want to talk about many other people talking 1480 01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:31,680 about those other risks, including risks of bias and 1481 01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,650 discrimination. So I want to talk about a different risk, 1482 01:23:34,950 --> 01:23:38,820 which is the risk of super intelligent AI, taking over 1483 01:23:38,820 --> 01:23:40,080 control from people. 1484 01:23:42,810 --> 01:23:46,410 Adam Curry: Okay, last clip, let's hear about this. 1485 01:23:46,470 --> 01:23:49,260 Unknown: Is there any turning back when you say that there 1486 01:23:49,260 --> 01:23:52,800 will come a time when AI is more intelligent than us? Is there 1487 01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:53,940 any coming back from that? 1488 01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:58,710 I don't know. We're entering a time of great uncertainty where 1489 01:23:58,740 --> 01:24:01,290 we're dealing with kinds of things we've never dealt with 1490 01:24:01,290 --> 01:24:05,550 before. It's as if aliens have landed. But we didn't really 1491 01:24:05,550 --> 01:24:07,590 take it in because they speak good English. 1492 01:24:07,950 --> 01:24:10,410 How should we think differently than about artificial 1493 01:24:10,410 --> 01:24:11,100 intelligence, 1494 01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:16,230 we should realize that we're probably going to get things 1495 01:24:16,230 --> 01:24:19,050 more intelligent than us quite soon. And they will be 1496 01:24:19,050 --> 01:24:22,140 wonderful. There'll be able to do all sorts of things very 1497 01:24:22,140 --> 01:24:25,380 easily that we find very difficult. So there's huge 1498 01:24:25,380 --> 01:24:28,230 positive potential in these things. But of course, there's 1499 01:24:28,230 --> 01:24:31,200 also huge negative possibilities. And I think we 1500 01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:34,380 should put more or less equal resources into developing AI to 1501 01:24:34,380 --> 01:24:37,680 make it much more powerful, and into figuring out how to keep it 1502 01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:41,250 under control and how to minimize bad side effects of it. 1503 01:24:43,590 --> 01:24:46,830 Adam Curry: Congratulations on that great get PBS news hour. 1504 01:24:48,420 --> 01:24:51,120 John C Dvorak: Do you understand what he told me? Absolutely. No, 1505 01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:51,210 of 1506 01:24:51,210 --> 01:24:55,950 Adam Curry: course is nothing because the guy is a dope. And 1507 01:24:55,950 --> 01:24:58,230 what was his biggest invention? How do you How can you be the 1508 01:24:58,230 --> 01:25:01,140 godfather of AI? What did you do? I know what I did for 1509 01:25:01,140 --> 01:25:03,690 podcasting. Why In fact, I'm called the godfather of 1510 01:25:03,690 --> 01:25:08,970 podcasting. I saw RSS said, hey, put an attachment in there and I 1511 01:25:08,970 --> 01:25:12,750 said no and I can say it in one in one paragraph. Yeah, you 1512 01:25:12,750 --> 01:25:14,400 John C Dvorak: can't because you're the guy that did it. 1513 01:25:14,460 --> 01:25:14,970 Right. So 1514 01:25:14,970 --> 01:25:17,730 Adam Curry: what this guy do and by the well, you know 1515 01:25:17,730 --> 01:25:20,250 John C Dvorak: what? You know, what do I have to ask you, you 1516 01:25:20,250 --> 01:25:21,330 know what you're supposed to work. 1517 01:25:23,070 --> 01:25:23,970 Adam Curry: Try it again. 1518 01:25:24,299 --> 01:25:28,799 John C Dvorak: Hey, guess what? Let's look him up in the 1519 01:25:28,799 --> 01:25:32,999 Wikipedia and see exactly what he did was named Jack Kirby. 1520 01:25:36,630 --> 01:25:42,870 Adam Curry: Jeffery Kirby Jeffrey with a GE o Freo de GGO. 1521 01:25:42,900 --> 01:25:47,190 Geoffrey Hinton Hinton Hinton Here we go. Jeffers, 1522 01:25:47,190 --> 01:25:49,440 John C Dvorak: look him up. Hinton okay. This is the way we 1523 01:25:49,440 --> 01:25:53,190 do it on this show because you were gas bags as it is. That's 1524 01:25:53,190 --> 01:25:56,130 right. Okay. 76. He's a British and 1525 01:25:56,130 --> 01:25:58,530 Adam Curry: British Canadian, British Canadian. 1526 01:25:58,770 --> 01:26:01,650 John C Dvorak: He worked on neural nets, which is not AI. 1527 01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:03,000 Okay is beside the point. 1528 01:26:03,300 --> 01:26:07,860 Adam Curry: Google Brain. Google Brain was Google 1529 01:26:07,860 --> 01:26:08,550 John C Dvorak: Brain. And 1530 01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:11,220 Adam Curry: that was that was their AI that was that was 1531 01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:15,330 Sergey Brin. That was what Musk said Sergey Brin stole everybody 1532 01:26:15,330 --> 01:26:19,500 to work on Google Brain. Google Brain didn't win any chess match 1533 01:26:19,500 --> 01:26:20,610 that was deep blue. 1534 01:26:21,270 --> 01:26:23,940 John C Dvorak: So hidden, received the 2018 Turing Award, 1535 01:26:23,940 --> 01:26:29,790 which is a big deal, who is the ASHA Bengio and Yan Laocoon. for 1536 01:26:29,790 --> 01:26:32,010 their work on deep learning, they are sometimes referred to 1537 01:26:32,010 --> 01:26:37,830 as the godfathers of AI in 2018. Ai beams told trend began in the 1538 01:26:38,250 --> 01:26:47,130 80s. Do he but he popularized the back propagation algorithm, 1539 01:26:47,310 --> 01:26:51,540 or training multi layer neural nets, which again, that's 1540 01:26:51,540 --> 01:26:52,080 question 1541 01:26:52,110 --> 01:26:53,490 Adam Curry: that's PageRank, isn't it? 1542 01:26:55,290 --> 01:26:58,080 John C Dvorak: what back propagation is back propagation 1543 01:26:58,080 --> 01:26:59,790 Adam Curry: is part of an algorithm that is 1544 01:26:59,790 --> 01:27:01,860 John C Dvorak: a widely used algorithm for training feed 1545 01:27:01,860 --> 01:27:05,850 forward artificial neural nets or other parameterised networks 1546 01:27:05,850 --> 01:27:09,720 with differentiate the nodes. That's an official hold on we 1547 01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:10,680 read the whole thing. 1548 01:27:11,340 --> 01:27:14,220 Adam Curry: And open it he's a mathematician he is dad was a 1549 01:27:14,220 --> 01:27:17,430 mathematician. He's a math guy and a math guy math dude. All 1550 01:27:17,430 --> 01:27:23,190 right. Okay, well, impressive. What is on it? He has a 1551 01:27:23,190 --> 01:27:28,770 homepage, which is homepage of Oh my god. It always missing 1552 01:27:28,770 --> 01:27:29,370 he's old 1553 01:27:29,370 --> 01:27:31,440 John C Dvorak: enough to be the father of something. Yeah. 1554 01:27:32,910 --> 01:27:35,520 Adam Curry: His homepage. It looks like it should have Blink 1555 01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:41,160 tags. What are those? I generated it with Emacs. That's 1556 01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:45,630 in fact, when we take a look at he better he built this with 1557 01:27:45,660 --> 01:27:46,410 Emacs. 1558 01:27:46,590 --> 01:27:49,470 John C Dvorak: Is this his website in Toronto? Eds? Yes. 1559 01:27:49,650 --> 01:27:52,110 Oh, that's probably the ad they'll give Toronto probably 1560 01:27:52,110 --> 01:27:55,560 put this together. Looks like this college website. 1561 01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:58,140 Adam Curry: Looks like something he would have done himself with 1562 01:27:58,170 --> 01:28:03,420 Emacs. Terrible. Yes. With list. Alright, let's get off of that 1563 01:28:03,420 --> 01:28:05,760 trigger. ike.org/na. 1564 01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:09,450 John C Dvorak: There you go. So Lisp, 1565 01:28:10,590 --> 01:28:13,140 Adam Curry: I have one more candidates who's running for 1566 01:28:13,140 --> 01:28:17,340 president. And after we play this clip, it will be guaranteed 1567 01:28:17,580 --> 01:28:21,510 he will never ever be president I fear for his life. In fact, 1568 01:28:22,860 --> 01:28:26,820 John C Dvorak: you Kennedy Yeah. Yeah, he did. But they won't get 1569 01:28:26,820 --> 01:28:28,950 close enough that they have to do anything about it. 1570 01:28:28,980 --> 01:28:32,970 Adam Curry: Well, he opened up about a bio weaponry and this is 1571 01:28:32,970 --> 01:28:35,940 from his book, but I've never heard it told this concisely. 1572 01:28:36,330 --> 01:28:38,880 It's important to think the American people, maybe the 1573 01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:42,780 people of the world need to hear this. So you understand exactly 1574 01:28:42,780 --> 01:28:45,270 where COVID came from. So 1575 01:28:46,139 --> 01:28:50,009 Unknown: we went to war, we pass the Patriot Act, and immediately 1576 01:28:50,009 --> 01:28:54,329 started giving $2 billion a year to bio weapons development. The 1577 01:28:54,359 --> 01:28:57,509 Pentagon didn't want to do it because it was nervous about the 1578 01:28:57,509 --> 01:29:02,219 legality, because it was a death penalty to violate the Geneva 1579 01:29:02,219 --> 01:29:06,419 Convention. Oh, you would have been committing a you know, a 1580 01:29:06,419 --> 01:29:12,179 war crime. Even if somebody told you it was okay. It wasn't. And 1581 01:29:12,179 --> 01:29:16,949 so they funneled it through Teatre and DARPA, They funneled 1582 01:29:16,949 --> 01:29:18,059 all of that money. 1583 01:29:18,090 --> 01:29:20,400 Adam Curry: Did you ask something? No. 1584 01:29:23,730 --> 01:29:28,830 Unknown: Hang on. And so they funneled it through Teatre and 1585 01:29:28,830 --> 01:29:35,100 DARPA, They funneled all that money. And I age to Nia ID which 1586 01:29:35,100 --> 01:29:41,730 became the primary spear tip of bio weapons development. So Tony 1587 01:29:41,730 --> 01:29:46,500 Fauci became the bio weapons are in 2001. Is budget went up by 1588 01:29:46,500 --> 01:29:51,900 $2.2 billion. He was personally given a 68% raise from the 1589 01:29:51,900 --> 01:29:56,190 military. That's why he was the highest paid individual in the 1590 01:29:56,190 --> 01:30:01,500 federal government. Because he was getting this 68% Bonus every 1591 01:30:01,500 --> 01:30:05,490 year from the military. But it meant that he could not stop. 1592 01:30:06,030 --> 01:30:09,300 And the thing the military wanted was getting a function 1593 01:30:09,300 --> 01:30:14,160 studies where they could take wild viruses and turn them into 1594 01:30:14,190 --> 01:30:18,120 bio weapons. And bio weapons development always includes 1595 01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:22,530 vaccine development. Because unlike chemical weapons, with 1596 01:30:22,530 --> 01:30:25,770 bio weapons, there's always blowback is called the boomerang 1597 01:30:25,770 --> 01:30:29,970 effect. If you give your enemy bubonic plague, your guy's gonna 1598 01:30:29,970 --> 01:30:35,460 get it first two are gonna get it quickly. So the only way you 1599 01:30:35,460 --> 01:30:38,820 can deploy a bio weapons if you have already developed a 1600 01:30:38,820 --> 01:30:43,230 vaccine, so the race is to develop a vaccine simultaneously 1601 01:30:43,230 --> 01:30:46,500 via weapons, and then you can deploy the bio weapons and your 1602 01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:50,520 enemy will take a couple of years to develop the vaccine. 1603 01:30:51,540 --> 01:30:58,710 And you can inoculate all of your team. So in 2014, three of 1604 01:30:58,710 --> 01:31:04,800 Tony Fauci these bugs escaped from federal labs. And they 1605 01:31:04,830 --> 01:31:12,330 their escapes were public. And it caused a huge brouhaha. There 1606 01:31:12,330 --> 01:31:18,450 were Senate hearings, and people were immensely upset. And, and 1607 01:31:18,480 --> 01:31:22,770 300, scientists, wrote letter wrote a petition to President 1608 01:31:22,770 --> 01:31:26,130 Obama saying you have to shut down Tony Fauci. He's gonna 1609 01:31:26,130 --> 01:31:31,440 cause a global pandemic. When Obama declared a moratorium and 1610 01:31:31,440 --> 01:31:35,340 to hold Fauci or to Fauci to shut down the ATM studies he was 1611 01:31:36,630 --> 01:31:41,580 doing. As I show in my book, he didn't do it. He instead took 1612 01:31:41,580 --> 01:31:45,870 that science. And he moved it offshore to the Wuhan lab and to 1613 01:31:45,870 --> 01:31:51,570 the Ukraine. And when he did that, he was not the only one 1614 01:31:51,570 --> 01:31:58,560 who did it. Tony Fauci spent about $29 million on gain of 1615 01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:03,780 function science in Wuhan. But the CIA spent over $100 million. 1616 01:32:04,710 --> 01:32:08,580 And the military spend about that much to about 64 million. 1617 01:32:09,480 --> 01:32:14,280 And they, the CIA funneled the money, most of it through USA 1618 01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:22,080 ID. But they also the CIA, as we now know, was also running this 1619 01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:26,550 organization called the Eco Health Alliance. Which Fauci was 1620 01:32:26,550 --> 01:32:30,330 funneling his money through, it was like a laundromat where they 1621 01:32:30,330 --> 01:32:34,230 funneled federal monies so that it was so that their 1622 01:32:34,230 --> 01:32:36,900 fingerprints would not be would not be visible on them. 1623 01:32:37,799 --> 01:32:40,859 Adam Curry: Yeah, he's not going to be precedent. Wow. 1624 01:32:41,370 --> 01:32:44,100 John C Dvorak: So yeah, believable. I do have a I think 1625 01:32:44,100 --> 01:32:45,690 this is from 2008. 1626 01:32:45,809 --> 01:32:47,459 Adam Curry: I don't know when there's not room. I have no 1627 01:32:47,459 --> 01:32:47,999 idea. 1628 01:32:48,179 --> 01:32:51,209 John C Dvorak: No, not not. No. I've seen it. I think I have oh, 1629 01:32:51,209 --> 01:32:52,199 you're what I had. 1630 01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:55,350 Adam Curry: Okay. Hello, hello. Who's calling? 1631 01:32:56,730 --> 01:32:59,670 John C Dvorak: You know who? I listen to Mark Levin the other 1632 01:32:59,670 --> 01:33:02,580 day, he's always going Hello. May does that 1633 01:33:02,610 --> 01:33:05,760 Adam Curry: what this you know, you're one of the few people who 1634 01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:08,940 still has an am radio. I do. I've been in your 1635 01:33:08,940 --> 01:33:12,960 John C Dvorak: car. I do have an FM radio in the car too, you 1636 01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:17,430 know. But here what's interesting is, I have this clip 1637 01:33:17,430 --> 01:33:22,410 coming up as dynamite. But the am radio quality and the newer 1638 01:33:22,410 --> 01:33:27,930 cars, comparatives, I have an old Lexus, and it's just 1639 01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:33,780 deteriorated on purpose. Now, as I take my Lexus into have it 1640 01:33:33,780 --> 01:33:37,860 fixed, and I get a loaner. I get a brand new one. Yeah, and drive 1641 01:33:37,860 --> 01:33:42,030 around and turn on the am radio. It sounds like short wave from 1642 01:33:42,030 --> 01:33:42,990 the 20s. 1643 01:33:43,019 --> 01:33:46,739 Adam Curry: Well, the here's the problem. Am radio is no longer 1644 01:33:46,739 --> 01:33:52,769 being put into cars, because half the cars that people will 1645 01:33:52,769 --> 01:33:57,149 be buying will be electric. And there's so much gear now in 1646 01:33:57,149 --> 01:34:00,779 these in these cars that you can't get away from the 1647 01:34:01,019 --> 01:34:07,499 interference. Yeah. Just here that you you cannot use and no 1648 01:34:07,499 --> 01:34:11,789 one wants to good effect can only be done with these 1649 01:34:11,789 --> 01:34:13,589 temporary teeth, interestingly. 1650 01:34:14,340 --> 01:34:17,100 John C Dvorak: Alright, well, anyway, so here's Fauci. I think 1651 01:34:17,100 --> 01:34:21,720 this is in 2008. Yes, I see where he's slyly working on his 1652 01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:25,650 scheme that was just outlined by Kennedy, his scheme to get 1653 01:34:25,650 --> 01:34:28,050 around as gain of function thing. This may have been later 1654 01:34:28,050 --> 01:34:32,520 or earlier, but this was at some point where he had to, he knew 1655 01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:35,880 the gain of function was yet was under pressure. And this is and 1656 01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:40,440 he was slyly working, working out his scheme. And here he is. 1657 01:34:40,620 --> 01:34:44,640 Unknown: Anyway, so let me just go on about NIH lifts, funding 1658 01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:48,300 pause on gain of function research. So let me explain this 1659 01:34:48,300 --> 01:34:52,320 a little. Because whenever this comes out, there's always the 1660 01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:57,090 pushing back and forth from the press. So like NIH now is going 1661 01:34:57,090 --> 01:35:00,060 to do dangerous research. No extra matter of fact is is 1662 01:35:00,060 --> 01:35:03,720 exactly the opposite. So a framework has been now 1663 01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:09,510 established to guide funding decisions on proposed research 1664 01:35:09,750 --> 01:35:14,370 that might be anticipated to create, transfer or use enhanced 1665 01:35:14,580 --> 01:35:19,080 potential pandemic pathogens. The program, everybody has to 1666 01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:24,570 have a neat little name to it. This is called p3 SEO. So if you 1667 01:35:24,570 --> 01:35:30,720 hear about p3 SEO, its potential pandemic preparedness, care and 1668 01:35:30,750 --> 01:35:35,490 oversight. Now, why is this different from everything else 1669 01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:39,540 we've been doing? It's different because remember the trouble we 1670 01:35:39,540 --> 01:35:42,720 used to get in when someone would do an experiment, they 1671 01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:45,630 would submit it to a journal. And just as it's getting ready 1672 01:35:45,630 --> 01:35:48,990 to go out, everybody would start scrambling around. Should we be 1673 01:35:48,990 --> 01:35:53,310 publishing should it not? So we decided to go upstream from that 1674 01:35:53,340 --> 01:35:57,390 and talk about decisions that are made by government funded 1675 01:35:57,390 --> 01:36:00,840 remember, we have no control over things that are not funded 1676 01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:04,890 by the government, but in government funded activities to 1677 01:36:04,890 --> 01:36:08,580 guide the funding decision before you actually do the 1678 01:36:08,580 --> 01:36:11,400 experiment. I don't think this is going to be foolproof things 1679 01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:14,310 are gonna slip through that I think this is a much better 1680 01:36:14,310 --> 01:36:16,470 approach than we've had before. 1681 01:36:17,220 --> 01:36:20,940 Adam Curry: That's the goal in Westminster. There was Tony 1682 01:36:20,940 --> 01:36:24,180 Fauci with his cane and his hooded, ghoulish outfit. 1683 01:36:25,440 --> 01:36:29,340 John C Dvorak: It's unbelievable. And it's been 1684 01:36:29,340 --> 01:36:33,720 going on forever. It's just Kennedy points out. Sorry, been 1685 01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:39,150 going on forever, as Kennedy points out. And we can't seem to 1686 01:36:39,150 --> 01:36:43,230 put a stop to it in fact, and if it was if it's punishable by 1687 01:36:43,230 --> 01:36:47,550 death, hey, let's find some people up who's the who's behind 1688 01:36:47,550 --> 01:36:52,140 all this where's the punishable by death? Take places like, you 1689 01:36:52,140 --> 01:36:55,380 know, kind of saber rattling about this sort of thing and 1690 01:36:55,380 --> 01:36:57,120 we're just doing it openly. 1691 01:36:57,510 --> 01:36:58,530 Adam Curry: Yeah, well, 1692 01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:00,840 John C Dvorak: who's gonna you know, foul punishable by who's 1693 01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:02,760 who's gonna punish anybody by death? 1694 01:37:02,850 --> 01:37:05,850 Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. Collins is, you know, there are probably 1695 01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:10,530 buying homes in Argentina. And you're telling me that that 1696 01:37:10,530 --> 01:37:13,860 Lexus gives you a loaner car? Yeah. When you bring that when 1697 01:37:13,860 --> 01:37:18,180 you bring that Junker in, they say, Oh, hi, Mr. Dvorak. Boy, 1698 01:37:18,300 --> 01:37:22,380 nice to see this 20 year old vehicle again, here's a loaner 1699 01:37:22,380 --> 01:37:23,910 vehicle. Really? Yeah. 1700 01:37:24,540 --> 01:37:26,760 John C Dvorak: You just You just when you call in to get your 1701 01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:28,350 appointment, you say I need a loaner. And they 1702 01:37:28,530 --> 01:37:33,930 Adam Curry: give you a new Lexus. Yeah. Wow, well, that's 1703 01:37:33,930 --> 01:37:34,770 good service. 1704 01:37:34,950 --> 01:37:37,860 John C Dvorak: Lexus per Lexus is the best I mean, that way, 1705 01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:40,350 you know, and my third 1706 01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:45,210 Adam Curry: Well, since we're talking about Big Pharma in a 1707 01:37:45,210 --> 01:37:50,490 way and obviously the Wuhan whatever this this if it was 1708 01:37:50,490 --> 01:37:55,500 real at all, whatever this this, this COVID was they didn't have 1709 01:37:55,500 --> 01:38:00,990 the vaccine ready that's for sure. That whole thing is that 1710 01:38:00,990 --> 01:38:04,350 what a huge scam let's not let's not let that happen to us again. 1711 01:38:05,370 --> 01:38:07,140 John C Dvorak: This is the latest out of the knows what 1712 01:38:07,140 --> 01:38:08,100 they're developing. 1713 01:38:08,910 --> 01:38:12,510 Adam Curry: Here's the latest out of Big Pharma land crushing 1714 01:38:12,540 --> 01:38:13,890 entire industries. 1715 01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:16,950 Unknown: After 40 years of helping people to shed pounds 1716 01:38:16,980 --> 01:38:20,490 Jenny Craig is shutting its entire workforce and going out 1717 01:38:20,490 --> 01:38:24,510 of business. It's closing all of its nearly 500 Weight Loss 1718 01:38:24,510 --> 01:38:27,840 centers in the US and Canada and canceling all subscriptions, 1719 01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:31,560 coaching sessions, food orders and sales. Weight Loss services 1720 01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:33,690 like Jenny Craig have been struggling to keep up with 1721 01:38:33,690 --> 01:38:37,170 competition from prescription drugs like ozempic 1722 01:38:37,200 --> 01:38:40,740 John C Dvorak: buy em There you go to play for ozempic Yeah, but 1723 01:38:40,740 --> 01:38:45,000 Adam Curry: I believe it and remember Oprah's weightwatchers 1724 01:38:45,030 --> 01:38:48,990 also known as WW because now they rebranded they bought the 1725 01:38:48,990 --> 01:38:53,340 tele health company to telemedicine company that can 1726 01:38:53,340 --> 01:38:57,090 prescribe this stuff right on the app right over the phone. 1727 01:38:58,290 --> 01:38:59,400 John C Dvorak: Yes, gusting 1728 01:38:59,430 --> 01:39:02,070 Adam Curry: yeah well. Wait until that new and the Eli Lilly 1729 01:39:02,070 --> 01:39:04,650 one gets on the market and people start using it. You're 1730 01:39:04,650 --> 01:39:07,440 gonna see people just withering away right before your eyes 1731 01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:16,230 don't look great as their hair falls flat Olympic face this is 1732 01:39:16,230 --> 01:39:20,430 not an outstanding product people please do not use this. I 1733 01:39:20,430 --> 01:39:23,010 mean I can't give medical advice but I don't think it's an 1734 01:39:23,010 --> 01:39:28,740 outstanding product seems like something very oh don't even be 1735 01:39:28,740 --> 01:39:34,560 even singing it is like just bad bad bad bad bad. All right, now 1736 01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:38,670 one more thing we only have one break today because your your 1737 01:39:38,670 --> 01:39:41,940 excellent Cinco Demayo on Cinco de acepto 1738 01:39:42,929 --> 01:39:45,149 John C Dvorak: No, that wasn't it at all. There was bad things 1739 01:39:45,149 --> 01:39:45,779 a miss. 1740 01:39:45,810 --> 01:39:49,950 Adam Curry: Have you sent the newsletter out 20 times. Okay, 1741 01:39:49,980 --> 01:39:52,170 twice. What happened? 1742 01:39:53,009 --> 01:39:55,289 John C Dvorak: The newsletter seemed that I think there's a 1743 01:39:55,289 --> 01:39:58,979 MailChimp they did something wrong. I got an I did a second 1744 01:39:58,979 --> 01:40:03,149 sin because First and didn't trigger a posting on Twitter, 1745 01:40:03,149 --> 01:40:04,349 which is supposed to do. 1746 01:40:05,310 --> 01:40:12,660 Adam Curry: Oh, they the algo got got algo the API API API 1747 01:40:12,660 --> 01:40:13,590 access because they don't want 1748 01:40:13,590 --> 01:40:16,320 John C Dvorak: to pay happened. Yeah, they got down, right. So 1749 01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:21,150 down ranked. And so I looked at the number of the number of 1750 01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:27,570 opens, it was way off at about 730. So something's amiss. So I 1751 01:40:27,570 --> 01:40:32,280 sent a newsletter out a second time. And I got some feedback. 1752 01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:34,290 Hey, and 1753 01:40:34,590 --> 01:40:38,730 Adam Curry: was that the feedback? One drunk guy at one 1754 01:40:39,300 --> 01:40:42,060 John C Dvorak: get posted either. So you know, either male 1755 01:40:42,060 --> 01:40:44,310 chimps gotta get its act together. And if they can, they 1756 01:40:44,310 --> 01:40:46,800 can afford it. I mean, it's not as though it's a company at 1757 01:40:46,800 --> 01:40:47,970 starving to death. 1758 01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:51,540 Adam Curry: Well, you don't know. I mean, the all these 1759 01:40:51,540 --> 01:40:56,340 companies did you get substack it's so desperate, they're 1760 01:40:56,340 --> 01:41:00,270 crowdfunding their next investment round. I mean, this 1761 01:41:00,270 --> 01:41:05,190 is bad stuff is bad. And I thought that I for sure, I 1762 01:41:05,190 --> 01:41:10,200 thought substack was wildly profitable. They're just not how 1763 01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:13,500 could How can you get people paying left and right, it must 1764 01:41:13,500 --> 01:41:16,830 be I'm telling you right now. It must be because they have to 1765 01:41:16,830 --> 01:41:23,520 shell out at least 150 grand and this is 2008 prices. It was 100 1766 01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:28,710 or 150 grand a month to get whitelisted by Google and 1767 01:41:29,820 --> 01:41:34,350 outlook and a couple other you know there's there's trusted 1768 01:41:34,350 --> 01:41:37,350 companies that this is one of the biggest scams in Silicon 1769 01:41:37,350 --> 01:41:41,700 Valley is emails to be trusted to get through and I bet you 1770 01:41:41,700 --> 01:41:45,060 they just can't they just can't afford it anymore. And I do not 1771 01:41:45,060 --> 01:41:50,820 think that MailChimp has that kind of money either it's bad 1772 01:41:50,820 --> 01:41:56,430 out there email is I have to sadly say email is broken for 1773 01:41:56,430 --> 01:42:01,650 Good is broken for good. We should just give it up to me Why 1774 01:42:01,650 --> 01:42:02,310 don't you should just 1775 01:42:02,340 --> 01:42:04,620 John C Dvorak: make calling everybody personally send me a 1776 01:42:04,620 --> 01:42:06,180 phone number you can 1777 01:42:08,220 --> 01:42:13,500 Adam Curry: seriously it's broken but even that I spoke to 1778 01:42:13,500 --> 01:42:18,360 the CEO start nine he familiar start nine now start nine as a 1779 01:42:18,360 --> 01:42:22,290 company and they are building it's like Umbro only they're 1780 01:42:22,290 --> 01:42:27,240 taking it very, very seriously. Self hosting at home. And they 1781 01:42:27,270 --> 01:42:29,700 they've got their selling hardware, you can you can 1782 01:42:29,700 --> 01:42:32,730 download there, they built an operating system. So not a bunch 1783 01:42:32,730 --> 01:42:35,100 of Dockers connected to each other, but an actual operating 1784 01:42:35,100 --> 01:42:39,480 system that you could even get it on purism hardware, which is 1785 01:42:39,480 --> 01:42:42,390 you know, the open source hardware that was built, you 1786 01:42:42,390 --> 01:42:47,580 know, supposedly with no spy things in there, which is also 1787 01:42:47,580 --> 01:42:53,340 quite popular amongst the the OTG crowd and they're they're 1788 01:42:53,370 --> 01:42:56,490 replicating all these services you know, next cloud for your 1789 01:42:56,520 --> 01:43:00,570 for your Google stuff, you know, you can host your own blog with 1790 01:43:00,570 --> 01:43:04,230 ghosts, they have clear net so it'll be you know, actually on 1791 01:43:04,230 --> 01:43:08,610 your available on an IP address, you know, with with SSL, so it'd 1792 01:43:08,610 --> 01:43:12,990 be you can really, the idea is to supplant big tech and do it 1793 01:43:12,990 --> 01:43:17,670 all at home, the one thing they just gave up on was email, we 1794 01:43:17,670 --> 01:43:20,850 can never make it work because even if we can set it all up, 1795 01:43:21,270 --> 01:43:25,860 and you can still use a separate SMTP provider, but we still 1796 01:43:25,860 --> 01:43:28,740 can't guarantee your email will arrive because big tech has just 1797 01:43:28,740 --> 01:43:33,120 completely screwed up in Google in particular. I've screwed that 1798 01:43:33,120 --> 01:43:37,110 up I've just made sure No forget about it. We control that we own 1799 01:43:37,110 --> 01:43:40,800 it. And they do. Because most people are so stupid. They all 1800 01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:44,520 fell for the Gmail thing. Oh, it's free look Gmail is great. 1801 01:43:46,830 --> 01:43:49,740 So email is broken forever. It's too bad. It was kind of a cool 1802 01:43:49,740 --> 01:43:53,670 protocol. But I think you should go back and publish it on RSS 1803 01:43:53,670 --> 01:43:57,480 John the newsletter yeah 1804 01:43:58,500 --> 01:44:01,980 John C Dvorak: yeah. Yeah, so yeah, he 1805 01:44:01,980 --> 01:44:08,970 Adam Curry: said I might as well do my review right now of of the 1806 01:44:08,970 --> 01:44:09,660 light phone. 1807 01:44:11,010 --> 01:44:12,840 John C Dvorak: Oh, yes. You finally got your your light to 1808 01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:19,470 phone I did. OTG going routine. Everybody. I've always once 1809 01:44:19,470 --> 01:44:29,490 again, kind of guy OTG going Oh no. Dng guy the guy. Yeah. 1810 01:44:31,410 --> 01:44:33,360 Adam Curry: OTG off the grid haven't been that way for a 1811 01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:36,990 while decided to give it another try. Now that pretty much 1812 01:44:36,990 --> 01:44:40,440 everything I use in my life is available on a computer and I 1813 01:44:40,440 --> 01:44:43,110 find myself checking my phone too much even though I have a 1814 01:44:43,110 --> 01:44:48,870 graphene OS. So I suppose not too much spyware, and I splurt 1815 01:44:48,870 --> 01:44:52,230 it in a drawer. Well, you know, but for when I'm driving, I 1816 01:44:52,230 --> 01:44:55,350 don't want to take it with me. When I go out to dinner with my 1817 01:44:55,350 --> 01:44:57,030 wife I don't want to take it would be for a number of 1818 01:44:57,030 --> 01:45:01,800 reasons. One is I don't want to be looking at my Phone. And I 1819 01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:04,170 only want someone to be able to reach me. Like if you need to 1820 01:45:04,170 --> 01:45:07,290 reach me, you can send me a text message or call me. And that's 1821 01:45:07,290 --> 01:45:10,410 pretty much all I need. But the light phone. 1822 01:45:11,250 --> 01:45:13,230 John C Dvorak: Why do you need to be reached? 1823 01:45:13,830 --> 01:45:15,900 Adam Curry: While I'm an important person? I mean, what 1824 01:45:15,900 --> 01:45:21,360 if the podcast index.org goes down? Yeah, hmm. What if what if 1825 01:45:21,390 --> 01:45:26,160 you need to say the website has been updated to sell? You know, 1826 01:45:26,160 --> 01:45:26,670 one of those 1827 01:45:26,909 --> 01:45:28,739 John C Dvorak: comic strip blogger? Okay, but yeah, I 1828 01:45:28,740 --> 01:45:32,160 Adam Curry: do get those emails from you. Right? 1829 01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:34,680 John C Dvorak: Yeah, but it doesn't mean you have to act 1830 01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:38,790 instantly. Well, it's not a surgeon on call. 1831 01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:42,000 Adam Curry: Well, maybe, maybe have other hobbies that you 1832 01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:44,520 don't know about? I need to be on call. But okay. Do you want 1833 01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:46,470 me to do the segment? I just want to be a dick. I mean, you 1834 01:45:46,470 --> 01:45:49,950 tell me I doubt a guy would like both. Okay, let me do the 1835 01:45:49,950 --> 01:45:52,920 segment and be a dick with little little increments not 1836 01:45:52,920 --> 01:45:59,340 like let me get started at least. You want to clip five 1837 01:45:59,340 --> 01:46:05,940 gold? Clip $599 The light phone.com 1838 01:46:06,210 --> 01:46:08,100 John C Dvorak: Isn't that a little steep? 1839 01:46:09,059 --> 01:46:14,159 Adam Curry: Um, I think it's kind of on par with a with a if 1840 01:46:14,159 --> 01:46:20,249 you bought a an older model of Android phone on Amazon. New in 1841 01:46:20,249 --> 01:46:26,339 the box to that. It's okay. It is in fact a very light version 1842 01:46:26,339 --> 01:46:30,299 of Android I believe that runs it. The thing John, you will you 1843 01:46:30,299 --> 01:46:33,419 actually I may have to send this for as a Christmas gift for you. 1844 01:46:33,689 --> 01:46:38,579 You will love this phone. Because it is the size is it's 1845 01:46:38,579 --> 01:46:41,639 smaller than a cigarette box in dimension of course, much 1846 01:46:41,639 --> 01:46:44,729 thinner, obviously. So it's all remember the old there was a 1847 01:46:44,729 --> 01:46:48,449 Nokia phone but a smallest phone in the world way back in the 1848 01:46:48,449 --> 01:46:52,799 day, but fit right in the palm of your hand. You remember that? 1849 01:46:52,799 --> 01:46:52,859 I 1850 01:46:52,860 --> 01:46:55,380 John C Dvorak: thought it was Motorola but yes moto small 1851 01:46:55,380 --> 01:46:57,840 phones that we had been manufactured in the past very 1852 01:46:57,840 --> 01:46:58,650 small. So it's 1853 01:46:58,650 --> 01:47:04,440 Adam Curry: kind of like that. And it has a an E Ink screen. So 1854 01:47:04,470 --> 01:47:08,520 it doesn't have you know, it's like a Kindle basically. And the 1855 01:47:08,520 --> 01:47:11,610 only thing that you can do on it which is more than I expected to 1856 01:47:11,610 --> 01:47:16,590 be honest. Is a phone and imported my contacts perfectly 1857 01:47:16,650 --> 01:47:22,350 as a calendar imported and syncs with with my my current calendar 1858 01:47:22,350 --> 01:47:25,770 system. It'll work with anything, including next cloud. 1859 01:47:26,190 --> 01:47:30,210 It has an alarm, which you can set alarms, that's the BBB. for 1860 01:47:30,210 --> 01:47:33,840 that. It has notes. I like to notes because notes you can 1861 01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:37,320 write them or you can record them. I always like doing that 1862 01:47:37,320 --> 01:47:42,240 like a dictaphone. I have not tried it yourself. Yes, exactly. 1863 01:47:42,690 --> 01:47:47,070 I have not tried it yet, but it has directions of the called 1864 01:47:47,070 --> 01:47:53,310 directions in it. So it does have some kind of now, no, no go 1865 01:47:53,310 --> 01:48:02,970 of navigation. Which is amazing. It has a podcast player, which 1866 01:48:02,970 --> 01:48:06,210 is surprisingly easy. I know you can't update anything on the 1867 01:48:06,210 --> 01:48:08,400 phone. You have to do it on the on the website on their 1868 01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:12,870 dashboard to add podcast. But it works it will do Bluetooth with 1869 01:48:12,870 --> 01:48:18,090 your headset. It has a calculator not unimportant. And 1870 01:48:18,150 --> 01:48:22,020 finally it has a hotspot. So you could bring your laptop if you 1871 01:48:22,020 --> 01:48:24,570 really needed access and you didn't have it you could turn 1872 01:48:24,570 --> 01:48:29,340 into a hotspot. It is a wonderful, I mean a wonderful 1873 01:48:29,340 --> 01:48:33,450 little thing. And it has a QWERTY keyboard if you want if 1874 01:48:33,450 --> 01:48:36,810 you need to reply back to a text, you can also I don't know 1875 01:48:36,900 --> 01:48:40,560 what service is providing this we can also do voice to text. It 1876 01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:45,960 doesn't sound very OTG to me. But I have to say John I am this 1877 01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:50,580 is I've only had it for a day it arrived yesterday. I'm loving 1878 01:48:50,580 --> 01:48:54,630 going out with the dog. There's nothing very lightest I almost 1879 01:48:54,960 --> 01:48:58,140 feel it in my pocket. I can listen to my favorite podcast, 1880 01:48:58,260 --> 01:49:02,010 which is d h unplugged. Of course. It also has a music 1881 01:49:02,010 --> 01:49:06,120 player, but I don't listen to music on anything on my phone. I 1882 01:49:06,120 --> 01:49:08,820 don't care too much about it. And that's it. And that's that's 1883 01:49:08,820 --> 01:49:11,250 all that it does. It doesn't do images, it doesn't have a 1884 01:49:11,250 --> 01:49:14,850 camera. If someone sends you text messages with an emoji the 1885 01:49:14,850 --> 01:49:18,690 emojis will show up. You cannot send any text back with emojis. 1886 01:49:19,230 --> 01:49:22,170 And that's it. And I think this is perfect. I think this is this 1887 01:49:22,170 --> 01:49:25,290 is what All kids should have. And that's mainly why I reviewed 1888 01:49:25,290 --> 01:49:29,010 it. This is what your kid should have. Your kid can do some stuff 1889 01:49:29,010 --> 01:49:31,740 that's educational and good and nothing else. And when they come 1890 01:49:31,740 --> 01:49:35,730 home, they can do stuff on the computer. I'm very impressed by 1891 01:49:35,730 --> 01:49:38,280 this device. I don't know about the battery life yet. We'll see. 1892 01:49:38,310 --> 01:49:43,380 I mean that's a mistake. I've had it I unplugged it today and 1893 01:49:43,380 --> 01:49:47,370 it's at 98% but haven't done anything with it. The Lightroom 1894 01:49:48,420 --> 01:49:49,770 I think you I think you'll enjoy it. 1895 01:49:49,860 --> 01:49:52,080 John C Dvorak: I'm gonna say you like it so much. You're gonna 1896 01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:53,370 send it to me. No, I'm 1897 01:49:53,370 --> 01:49:54,840 Adam Curry: gonna I'm gonna buy a new one for you. 1898 01:49:57,870 --> 01:49:59,970 John C Dvorak: I'll tell you right now, not to bother now. 1899 01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:00,720 too much money. 1900 01:50:02,370 --> 01:50:04,560 Adam Curry: What do you mean? It's too much? What would the 1901 01:50:04,710 --> 01:50:07,020 price point be? That's perfect for you? 1902 01:50:08,820 --> 01:50:12,120 John C Dvorak: $99 I think it'd be okay. Okay 40 Now it'd be 1903 01:50:12,120 --> 01:50:12,570 better 1904 01:50:13,799 --> 01:50:17,549 Adam Curry: so you'd rather have your take your your your clunky 1905 01:50:18,929 --> 01:50:22,439 distracting android phone with you when you leave the house. 1906 01:50:23,850 --> 01:50:25,680 John C Dvorak: I don't take the phone with me when I leave the 1907 01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:29,490 house. Oh, well, I'm going to Chicago on my take a phone 1908 01:50:29,490 --> 01:50:31,260 Adam Curry: when you drive around. You don't take a phone 1909 01:50:31,260 --> 01:50:32,160 in case something. Oh, 1910 01:50:32,160 --> 01:50:34,080 John C Dvorak: I do not. I know how to get around. 1911 01:50:35,310 --> 01:50:38,520 Adam Curry: Emergency what if? What if you would like help? 1912 01:50:38,520 --> 01:50:40,380 I've fallen I can't get up. 1913 01:50:40,440 --> 01:50:43,590 John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, then that hasn't happened. Okay, 1914 01:50:43,680 --> 01:50:46,560 Adam Curry: all right. You're special. Everybody's special. 1915 01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:50,310 John C Dvorak: I'm like, this is the way the world used to be. 1916 01:50:50,370 --> 01:50:55,170 Nobody went around in the 60s and 70s with a phone worried to 1917 01:50:55,170 --> 01:50:58,830 death. I mean, some people carried around a pager because 1918 01:50:58,830 --> 01:51:04,050 it was they felt so important that they had to get BBB BBB Oh, 1919 01:51:04,230 --> 01:51:08,040 my wife got home I now I know my wife got who cares? 1920 01:51:08,970 --> 01:51:11,250 Adam Curry: Yeah, I know. But your wife lives in a different 1921 01:51:11,250 --> 01:51:12,990 state so yeah, you don't care 1922 01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:15,180 John C Dvorak: even so I'm just saying I'm just saying there's 1923 01:51:15,180 --> 01:51:20,070 no right don't need a phone with me 24/7 Is not I'm not a surgeon 1924 01:51:20,070 --> 01:51:20,850 on call. 1925 01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:22,920 Adam Curry: Do you not have a little black book for your for 1926 01:51:22,920 --> 01:51:30,240 your babes? No, okay. Did you use to at one point did you have 1927 01:51:30,240 --> 01:51:31,650 a little black book? Tell us 1928 01:51:31,650 --> 01:51:33,090 John C Dvorak: a little I would be a red book. 1929 01:51:35,460 --> 01:51:37,770 Adam Curry: And this is why he's the Buzzkill. Ladies and 1930 01:51:37,770 --> 01:51:40,320 gentlemen. And with that I'd like to thank you for your 1931 01:51:40,320 --> 01:51:43,140 currency in the morning to you the man who put the sea in the 1932 01:51:43,140 --> 01:51:45,810 great clickbait ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend 1933 01:51:45,810 --> 01:51:48,840 on the other end who never takes the phone anywhere Mr. Jones 1934 01:51:51,210 --> 01:51:53,010 John C Dvorak: morning to you Mr. Adam curry and we're gonna 1935 01:51:53,010 --> 01:51:56,910 succeed boots on the ground. Feet near subs in the water. And 1936 01:51:56,910 --> 01:51:57,990 all the names and nights out 1937 01:51:58,050 --> 01:52:00,570 Adam Curry: in the morning to the trolls and the Troll. Troll 1938 01:52:00,570 --> 01:52:09,690 room who do have Now we're talking 2884 and even two hours 1939 01:52:09,690 --> 01:52:12,180 into the show that's not too bad for a troll room count. Hello 1940 01:52:12,180 --> 01:52:15,300 trolls. The trolls hang out in the troll room for one reason 1941 01:52:15,300 --> 01:52:18,690 one reason only to be counted and then to leave when the best 1942 01:52:18,690 --> 01:52:21,570 stuff comes. That's the donation segments where we'd had the 1943 01:52:21,570 --> 01:52:25,080 interviews we get clips of the day. We also thank people we 1944 01:52:25,080 --> 01:52:28,440 talk about people maybe probably talking about you when you leave 1945 01:52:28,440 --> 01:52:31,170 your trolls may say that means how many how many left right 1946 01:52:31,170 --> 01:52:38,370 away? Oh, only Oh, interesting. Threatening only only 10 left. 1947 01:52:39,180 --> 01:52:42,270 Afraid. Oh yeah, so you get bad karma. And that's where I forgot 1948 01:52:42,270 --> 01:52:46,500 to mention that part. The trolls are in the troll room, you can 1949 01:52:46,530 --> 01:52:51,420 participate in their joyous antics by going to troll room.io 1950 01:52:51,420 --> 01:52:54,210 where you can listen to the stream live, you can log into 1951 01:52:54,210 --> 01:52:57,570 the chat room. You have to register if you want to if you 1952 01:52:57,570 --> 01:53:01,350 want to troll but that's pretty simple. But then you know the 1953 01:53:01,350 --> 01:53:05,100 real recommendation if you don't have a light phone, if you have 1954 01:53:05,130 --> 01:53:09,570 like a grownup phone is go to podcast apps.com Get and man 1955 01:53:09,600 --> 01:53:15,000 there's more apps comm and get an app that does the live stream 1956 01:53:15,600 --> 01:53:20,370 pod verse curio caster, podcast addict podcast group and a big 1957 01:53:20,370 --> 01:53:23,550 one coming on board pretty soon that'll do this live stuff where 1958 01:53:23,580 --> 01:53:27,510 you can import all your existing podcasts into it and then when 1959 01:53:27,510 --> 01:53:30,780 we go live or any podcast goes live you get the bad signal to 1960 01:53:30,780 --> 01:53:35,220 remind you oh yeah, the boys are live. You tap on it. Boom you 1961 01:53:35,220 --> 01:53:37,770 get the live stream and you get your your troll room and 1962 01:53:37,770 --> 01:53:40,440 everything all in one go was perfect thing. Well, if you're 1963 01:53:40,440 --> 01:53:43,200 just on your computer at the office, you can check in on no 1964 01:53:43,200 --> 01:53:47,400 agenda social.com and follow me Adam at nogen the social.com 1965 01:53:47,400 --> 01:53:53,040 Jhansi Dvorak at no agenda social.com And you know that's 1966 01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:56,850 our social network without algos people seem to like it you can 1967 01:53:56,850 --> 01:54:01,020 follow from anywhere on on the Fetty verse. If your Mastodon 1968 01:54:01,020 --> 01:54:03,480 instance has not blocked us I think you can pretty much always 1969 01:54:03,480 --> 01:54:07,860 subscribe to so you may not get stuff in your in your Fetty feed 1970 01:54:07,890 --> 01:54:10,710 but who cares you just want to follow us where your guides and 1971 01:54:10,710 --> 01:54:11,280 all of this 1972 01:54:12,480 --> 01:54:14,760 John C Dvorak: Yeah, we're freeze peach. 1973 01:54:14,970 --> 01:54:17,040 Adam Curry: Yes freeze peach indeed. 1974 01:54:18,780 --> 01:54:20,760 John C Dvorak: It's a device that you mentioned it I do have 1975 01:54:20,760 --> 01:54:24,510 a clip I want to drop in Oh, you're talking about podcasts 1976 01:54:24,510 --> 01:54:28,290 podcasts apps podcast is by another what's wrong with these 1977 01:54:28,290 --> 01:54:35,880 podcasters Whoa. Okay your buddy here this is a house ad on a I 1978 01:54:35,880 --> 01:54:39,960 Heart Radio produce podcast. And the next thing you know there's 1979 01:54:39,960 --> 01:54:45,780 a plug for I Heart Radio. That is a that is kind of a house had 1980 01:54:45,780 --> 01:54:47,730 a you know I don't know why at the beginning somebody's 1981 01:54:47,730 --> 01:54:50,760 podcasts. I was listening to somebody. Some of these podcasts 1982 01:54:50,760 --> 01:54:53,820 don't get started for five or six minutes. What is it? What 1983 01:54:53,820 --> 01:54:57,510 are they started with ads? Yeah, they do the latest thing in 1984 01:54:57,510 --> 01:55:02,790 these these bad No no in these networks is to run two or three 1985 01:55:02,790 --> 01:55:06,840 or four ads before the podcast. And then the guys introduction 1986 01:55:06,840 --> 01:55:10,320 takes forever. Your six minutes in don't you just fast forward 1987 01:55:10,320 --> 01:55:13,620 like everybody else. Now I want to hear these ads. Especially 1988 01:55:13,620 --> 01:55:18,420 this one from your old buddy, my old buddy who? Bob Pitman's. 1989 01:55:19,439 --> 01:55:22,409 Adam Curry: Yeah, Bob pit knows Never mind. He was on his way 1990 01:55:22,439 --> 01:55:27,419 out. In fact, I met Bob Pittman once the weekend I got to New 1991 01:55:27,419 --> 01:55:31,589 York. And, and I got a call. Yeah, Bob Pittman, who was the 1992 01:55:31,589 --> 01:55:35,699 president of MTV Networks. Just before he left and Tom Freston 1993 01:55:35,699 --> 01:55:38,699 came in. Yeah, Bob wants to invite you to go to John Cougar 1994 01:55:38,699 --> 01:55:43,079 Mellencamp. So we went in Pitman's limo to see John Cougar 1995 01:55:43,079 --> 01:55:46,079 Mellencamp um, that was the only encounter I had with Bob Pittman 1996 01:55:47,010 --> 01:55:50,040 John C Dvorak: was in a limo. But remember those Pinkie 1997 01:55:50,070 --> 01:55:54,330 Adam Curry: remember the stretch limos? Yeah. I'm Bob Pittman, 1998 01:55:54,330 --> 01:55:57,990 Chairman and CEO of iHeartMedia. Looking for a master's guide to 1999 01:55:57,990 --> 01:56:00,990 the marketing world. from decades of experience starting 2000 01:56:00,990 --> 01:56:04,860 with building MTV, I found it comes down to two things, math 2001 01:56:04,980 --> 01:56:08,370 and magic. You'll hear unlikely visionaries from the frontiers 2002 01:56:08,370 --> 01:56:12,630 of marketing share how they use data, the math and creativity, 2003 01:56:12,780 --> 01:56:16,080 the magic to launch their biggest, most impossible 2004 01:56:16,080 --> 01:56:19,530 sounding ideas. Listen to the new season of math and magic 2005 01:56:19,530 --> 01:56:22,380 stories from the frontiers of marketing on our very own 2006 01:56:22,410 --> 01:56:26,490 iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast 2007 01:56:26,490 --> 01:56:31,200 by Bob Pittman. I should be on his show. I'm a math and magic 2008 01:56:31,200 --> 01:56:34,410 guy. Did I launch a grand idea? 2009 01:56:35,670 --> 01:56:42,210 John C Dvorak: Yeah, sure. Gonna show i Sounds boring to me. But 2010 01:56:42,210 --> 01:56:44,610 you there's nothing worse than a marketing guy. 2011 01:56:45,720 --> 01:56:48,000 Adam Curry: Hey, he created MTV. 2012 01:56:48,030 --> 01:56:49,260 John C Dvorak: You heard here he said. 2013 01:56:50,610 --> 01:56:54,300 Adam Curry: Well, well, he has six minutes of ads and opening. 2014 01:56:55,140 --> 01:56:58,230 We don't do that we get right to the show with our with our witty 2015 01:56:58,230 --> 01:57:01,170 banter. But you know, we have a little opening and we're right 2016 01:57:01,170 --> 01:57:04,260 into your shed with drop you're right in, which is quite jarring 2017 01:57:04,260 --> 01:57:07,500 for most people. And we don't have ads. We don't want we don't 2018 01:57:07,500 --> 01:57:09,180 want to have Bob Pittman advertised that would be 2019 01:57:09,180 --> 01:57:11,670 horrible. If you had to listen to Bob. I mean, ball respect 2020 01:57:11,790 --> 01:57:16,320 wasn't a bob Pitman before we started or whatever, whatever 2021 01:57:16,350 --> 01:57:19,440 how sad it would be. Why are they running house ads? Are they 2022 01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:24,870 not making any money over there? Hello. Hello, I heard radio. 2023 01:57:25,380 --> 01:57:31,500 Should you be out of business? No, we run value for value. That 2024 01:57:31,500 --> 01:57:34,230 means time, talent, treasure, whatever you want to give back 2025 01:57:34,230 --> 01:57:38,580 to us for the impeccable and voluminous value we provide. We 2026 01:57:38,580 --> 01:57:42,150 gladly accept it. We do need the treasure part. Little short 2027 01:57:42,150 --> 01:57:45,570 today. I'll be honest about it. But before we do that, let's go 2028 01:57:45,570 --> 01:57:52,530 to our art credit. And thank the artists for episode 1552 aptly 2029 01:57:52,530 --> 01:57:56,430 titled old trout. I don't think we have to explain to everybody 2030 01:57:56,430 --> 01:58:01,140 why we titled it that. And would you believe it? It's comic strip 2031 01:58:01,140 --> 01:58:05,910 blogger came in with a winning art piece. And and check this 2032 01:58:05,910 --> 01:58:08,760 out. It wasn't even AI. 2033 01:58:10,290 --> 01:58:11,670 John C Dvorak: Is that what he said? 2034 01:58:13,350 --> 01:58:17,100 Adam Curry: That's what he said. He said he was he was surprised 2035 01:58:17,640 --> 01:58:21,180 that this one he was just messing around with some ideas. 2036 01:58:21,570 --> 01:58:26,880 He took no AI critic but we when we saw this art and let's this 2037 01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:33,990 is a a che an angry salt shaker. Very cute piece. We both looked 2038 01:58:33,990 --> 01:58:39,060 at this and went. That's AI that's against our rules and 2039 01:58:39,060 --> 01:58:40,860 regs. Well, I suppose 2040 01:58:40,890 --> 01:58:42,210 John C Dvorak: it's your rule, not mine. 2041 01:58:43,230 --> 01:58:48,210 Adam Curry: True. And we said no. We can't do that. And then 2042 01:58:48,210 --> 01:58:50,670 you said Come on. Let's do it. Come on. Let's do it. You 2043 01:58:50,670 --> 01:58:52,470 John C Dvorak: were like I said, Come on. Let's do I said we 2044 01:58:52,470 --> 01:58:54,690 violate our own rule over time. 2045 01:58:56,040 --> 01:58:58,410 Adam Curry: And we also thought it would be fun for commerce or 2046 01:58:58,410 --> 01:59:02,580 Blogger to be able to drag on a very good piece. But we thought 2047 01:59:02,580 --> 01:59:06,570 it would be fun for him to say I got your AI and know that 2048 01:59:06,690 --> 01:59:09,360 John C Dvorak: the irony is not AI. That's funny. 2049 01:59:11,010 --> 01:59:12,990 Adam Curry: Let's see now there were a lot of submissions for 2050 01:59:12,990 --> 01:59:15,180 which we're always very appreciative. You can follow 2051 01:59:15,180 --> 01:59:18,240 along at no agenda art generator.com or get one of 2052 01:59:18,240 --> 01:59:21,780 those handy dandy new podcast apps at podcast apps.com 2053 01:59:21,810 --> 01:59:25,140 John C Dvorak: A bunch of funny old trout gags including the one 2054 01:59:25,140 --> 01:59:31,890 of the the old trout walking by Josh but can hold or whatever 2055 01:59:31,890 --> 01:59:34,980 his name I can't pronounce his last name kono. He did go on. 2056 01:59:34,980 --> 01:59:38,790 Oh, yeah. With a walker. It was. 2057 01:59:39,480 --> 01:59:43,260 Adam Curry: It was a little it was okay. I've been you thought 2058 01:59:43,290 --> 01:59:46,800 I liked a lot. You liked it. I liked the one where Camilla's 2059 01:59:46,800 --> 01:59:48,690 face was literally a trout face. 2060 01:59:49,440 --> 01:59:51,270 John C Dvorak: I thought that was gross. Yeah, I 2061 01:59:51,270 --> 01:59:53,460 Adam Curry: know. I know. You did a lot of trial. A lot of 2062 01:59:53,460 --> 01:59:57,570 trout jokes. And there were a lot of shaker jokes too. A lot 2063 01:59:57,570 --> 02:00:03,660 of shaker jokes, but jokes are work I should say. We both 2064 02:00:03,660 --> 02:00:07,770 looked at the no agenda Gardner's bomb. That was a nice 2065 02:00:07,770 --> 02:00:12,060 piece by Nico sign but it was a little small Nico, little small 2066 02:00:12,090 --> 02:00:14,730 the curry Dvorak was too small. That's the main problem our name 2067 02:00:14,730 --> 02:00:17,820 has to be pretty big. This and that and then you you 2068 02:00:17,820 --> 02:00:21,090 particularly like the writer strike again, which was done in 2069 02:00:21,090 --> 02:00:22,680 the theme of Star Wars. 2070 02:00:22,920 --> 02:00:25,200 John C Dvorak: Yes, the Empire Strikes Back it was 2071 02:00:25,200 --> 02:00:27,480 Adam Curry: all off for me. I mean, the logo was great. 2072 02:00:27,480 --> 02:00:30,240 John C Dvorak: Well you hate Star Wars Star Trek, all that 2073 02:00:30,240 --> 02:00:30,690 stuff. I 2074 02:00:30,690 --> 02:00:33,990 Adam Curry: don't hate out. I gotta tell you something. So but 2075 02:00:33,990 --> 02:00:38,160 does not Star Wars but my buddy Dave over at podcast index.org 2076 02:00:38,730 --> 02:00:42,780 He's a big Trekkie fan. And so he goes to the Star Trek 2077 02:00:42,780 --> 02:00:45,750 convention as it came to Birmingham, Alabama, and he had 2078 02:00:45,750 --> 02:00:51,120 signed up for for a selfie with William Shatner. And, and some 2079 02:00:51,120 --> 02:00:55,260 of the crew members from I don't know which Deep Space Nine I 2080 02:00:55,260 --> 02:00:58,020 don't know which one. It is because he's really excited to 2081 02:00:58,020 --> 02:00:59,880 be here. And he was some of the hobbies gotta get a selfie was 2082 02:00:59,880 --> 02:01:02,460 Shatner, I think he had to pay like 120 bucks for it or 2083 02:01:02,460 --> 02:01:07,050 something. So you know, really? Yeah. You know what he got? So 2084 02:01:07,080 --> 02:01:09,000 So basically, there's a stage 2085 02:01:09,030 --> 02:01:12,720 John C Dvorak: got to stand next to a shattered noni No, no, no. 2086 02:01:13,230 --> 02:01:16,770 Adam Curry: Shatner sitting in like on a box or a chair on 2087 02:01:16,770 --> 02:01:21,420 stage. And then there's Dave, on the other side of a clear 2088 02:01:21,420 --> 02:01:23,250 plexiglass divider. 2089 02:01:25,860 --> 02:01:27,390 John C Dvorak: Why want to see that picture. 2090 02:01:28,380 --> 02:01:29,880 Unknown: It's really sad. 2091 02:01:31,980 --> 02:01:34,710 Adam Curry: 20 bucks and shattered just sitting there. 2092 02:01:35,400 --> 02:01:38,640 And the Plexiglas dividers open. You have none of the sort of the 2093 02:01:38,640 --> 02:01:44,640 Trekkies get any cooties on him. That as I've like, I've lost 2094 02:01:44,640 --> 02:01:49,260 respect for Shatner now. That's just a money grab me with you. 2095 02:01:49,260 --> 02:01:51,840 You want to take a picture of the pod father free, make a 2096 02:01:51,840 --> 02:01:57,120 slobber all over me. I'm no douche. We go to your Meetup. 2097 02:01:57,870 --> 02:01:58,830 John C Dvorak: It's pretty bad. 2098 02:01:58,860 --> 02:02:03,570 Adam Curry: It's very bad. It's just very disappointing. So we 2099 02:02:03,570 --> 02:02:04,500 looked at that 2100 02:02:05,010 --> 02:02:06,090 John C Dvorak: moment to see that picture. 2101 02:02:06,930 --> 02:02:13,320 Adam Curry: I'll send it to you. It's pretty messed up. What else 2102 02:02:13,320 --> 02:02:17,520 do we have? Now? The too many of the egg. I thought the egg was 2103 02:02:17,520 --> 02:02:18,690 cool. You didn't like the egg? 2104 02:02:18,930 --> 02:02:20,520 John C Dvorak: No, I did like the egg. But I didn't think it 2105 02:02:20,520 --> 02:02:25,920 was going to was show worthy. It's just cute is cute, a cute 2106 02:02:25,920 --> 02:02:26,250 egg 2107 02:02:26,520 --> 02:02:28,560 Adam Curry: with kind of my teeth. So my teeth look like now 2108 02:02:28,590 --> 02:02:32,310 John C Dvorak: it looks to me like Brian Stelter to me. While 2109 02:02:32,460 --> 02:02:34,140 Adam Curry: you didn't mention that, when we were looking at 2110 02:02:34,140 --> 02:02:34,350 it, 2111 02:02:34,950 --> 02:02:36,690 John C Dvorak: they'll nod and see it again. 2112 02:02:37,800 --> 02:02:40,680 Adam Curry: Yeah, so I think that was that was it. We really 2113 02:02:40,680 --> 02:02:43,380 appreciate the work that all the artists do over at no agenda, 2114 02:02:43,380 --> 02:02:45,690 art generator.com They're doing this live where they listen to 2115 02:02:45,690 --> 02:02:49,590 us live. And so really phenomenal. How well they can do 2116 02:02:49,590 --> 02:02:53,100 that. of all of them. It's very appreciated. And you can meet 2117 02:02:53,100 --> 02:02:55,920 all of the artists at no agenda social.com They hang out there 2118 02:02:55,920 --> 02:02:59,190 to discuss it. They congratulate themselves and each other. And 2119 02:02:59,190 --> 02:02:59,700 yeah, and 2120 02:02:59,700 --> 02:03:02,460 John C Dvorak: then they just then they excoriated two of us 2121 02:03:02,460 --> 02:03:05,790 for not being done not liking the right art. Yeah, the 2122 02:03:05,790 --> 02:03:09,270 Adam Curry: wrong you did it all wrong, you horrible people. No 2123 02:03:09,270 --> 02:03:12,210 agenda art generator.com. And of course, we want to thank the 2124 02:03:12,210 --> 02:03:14,910 people who bring us the treasure, our executive and 2125 02:03:14,910 --> 02:03:20,970 Associate Executive producers for episode 1553. And we kick it 2126 02:03:20,970 --> 02:03:25,980 off with Mark capenhurst. I would say St. Petersburg, 2127 02:03:25,980 --> 02:03:30,210 Florida with a whopping very nice did save the day, I would 2128 02:03:30,210 --> 02:03:36,390 say $1,033. That's an instant donation then says in the 2129 02:03:36,390 --> 02:03:38,430 morning, Adam and John, I'd like to thank you both for the 2130 02:03:38,430 --> 02:03:41,820 amygdala assist over the last three years. Your deconstruction 2131 02:03:41,820 --> 02:03:45,390 helped me stand firm against my previous company's mandates with 2132 02:03:45,390 --> 02:03:49,380 clear and concise reasoning. Congratulations, man. That's a 2133 02:03:49,380 --> 02:03:52,200 tough one to do. It's not it was not easy for a lot of people. 2134 02:03:52,230 --> 02:03:56,490 Not everybody could do that. Please help me Sir Mark see of 2135 02:03:56,490 --> 02:04:00,120 the beach swamp? Can I get a mangoes and ribeye at the round 2136 02:04:00,120 --> 02:04:03,630 table? I think we can do that for you. No problem. And then he 2137 02:04:03,630 --> 02:04:07,710 says can I get a you're gonna need a Bitcoin and a yak karma 2138 02:04:07,710 --> 02:04:11,430 for everybody and see y'all on noster also, for anyone who was 2139 02:04:11,430 --> 02:04:14,280 realized our healthcare system has failed, and you're 2140 02:04:14,280 --> 02:04:16,920 interested in a sovereign alternative that actually cares 2141 02:04:16,920 --> 02:04:21,540 about you, please check out join crowd health.com Tina actually 2142 02:04:21,540 --> 02:04:30,300 uses that. What is it? It's it's a collective so you pay I think 2143 02:04:30,300 --> 02:04:36,540 it's like $250 a month. And, and that goes into a general fund. 2144 02:04:36,540 --> 02:04:39,930 And then when you need to get some help to help or some 2145 02:04:40,260 --> 02:04:44,820 anything over $500 you contact them. The first thing they do is 2146 02:04:44,820 --> 02:04:48,570 they negotiate with your doctor, as we know, doctors, hospitals 2147 02:04:48,570 --> 02:04:51,870 that all take 30 cents on the dollar because that gives them 2148 02:04:52,110 --> 02:04:54,420 the same amount of money they get from the insurance companies 2149 02:04:54,420 --> 02:04:57,600 without all the paperwork and hassle. And then that payment 2150 02:04:57,600 --> 02:05:01,200 comes out of the out of the pool and they If it's extraordinarily 2151 02:05:01,200 --> 02:05:05,340 expensive, they may ask you for an additional 50 bucks to help 2152 02:05:05,340 --> 02:05:08,040 that tell the story to help somebody out. And with that, you 2153 02:05:08,040 --> 02:05:10,800 get some kind of reputation points. And of course, when it's 2154 02:05:10,800 --> 02:05:13,980 your turn, if you have something big happen, then people will 2155 02:05:13,980 --> 02:05:18,030 help you. It's a very popular format, they have it. There's 2156 02:05:18,060 --> 02:05:19,950 many different companies that are doing this now. 2157 02:05:22,140 --> 02:05:24,600 John C Dvorak: Isn't this what health insurance used to be? 2158 02:05:25,020 --> 02:05:28,800 Adam Curry: Kind of? Yeah, I mean, except for the Wii, she 2159 02:05:28,800 --> 02:05:32,340 has not been asked to pay anything. I think actually, you 2160 02:05:32,370 --> 02:05:35,280 the money stays in your account. I think it stays in your name. 2161 02:05:35,400 --> 02:05:37,740 And these guys actually put some of it into Bitcoin, which I 2162 02:05:37,740 --> 02:05:43,950 think is it was interesting. So part of your money grows as you 2163 02:05:43,950 --> 02:05:48,240 grow. At least that's the concept. This idea of Christian 2164 02:05:48,240 --> 02:05:52,080 health ministries they do this and you know, you can only get 2165 02:05:52,080 --> 02:05:54,990 invited through your pastor or something like that. But yeah, 2166 02:05:55,050 --> 02:05:59,070 now this it, people are walking away from from the week we had 2167 02:05:59,070 --> 02:06:02,910 to, we were like 2500 bucks a month for the two of us, you 2168 02:06:02,910 --> 02:06:06,210 know, because we're older. And we're not old enough to get all 2169 02:06:06,210 --> 02:06:13,170 the government goodies. You signed word? Yeah, you sound you 2170 02:06:13,170 --> 02:06:18,180 sound flummoxed and flabbergasted. That all hell is 2171 02:06:18,180 --> 02:06:19,980 gonna break loose and you're gonna need a Bitcoin 2172 02:06:24,690 --> 02:06:29,190 Unknown: you've got karma 2173 02:06:31,980 --> 02:06:36,690 John C Dvorak: Baronet 1% of the GTF Oh, in Dixie Washington 2174 02:06:36,690 --> 02:06:42,090 34567. He like it says your cash Manning money shot long version 2175 02:06:42,090 --> 02:06:46,140 and goat karma IgM. This latest 1% contribution of my treasure 2176 02:06:46,140 --> 02:06:51,450 in the amount of 34567 has no special numerological meaning is 2177 02:06:51,450 --> 02:06:54,540 just for the hell of it. In addition to slowly working my 2178 02:06:54,540 --> 02:06:57,180 way up to the ranks of the roundtable and every 1% ways 2179 02:06:57,180 --> 02:07:00,060 have recently secured me citizenship in the nascent 2180 02:07:00,330 --> 02:07:05,670 nascent county known as liberal land as a diehard freedom lover. 2181 02:07:05,820 --> 02:07:11,850 It's something I deceased in Washington, okay. The home of 2182 02:07:11,880 --> 02:07:16,080 Inslee it's something I decided to take a flyer which is the 2183 02:07:16,080 --> 02:07:18,570 reason he's governors because they know how to rig elections 2184 02:07:18,570 --> 02:07:22,860 up there with all mail in voting 24/7 and 1% risk is not bad 2185 02:07:22,860 --> 02:07:27,420 anyway, it goes on. I think it's like contributing I think it's a 2186 02:07:27,420 --> 02:07:30,330 lot like contributing and no agenda the immediate cost need 2187 02:07:30,450 --> 02:07:32,610 not be great, but over time it can add up to something 2188 02:07:32,610 --> 02:07:35,160 significant potential upside for information entertainment and 2189 02:07:35,160 --> 02:07:38,580 make village shrinkage one contributions enable can be 2190 02:07:38,580 --> 02:07:43,470 invaluable. Thanks again for all you do to and provide faithfully 2191 02:07:43,470 --> 02:07:48,210 suppressing your exit strategy 1% of the time. Baronet 1% of 2192 02:07:48,210 --> 02:07:51,540 the GTFO aka Paul Zimmerman. 2193 02:07:51,570 --> 02:07:54,510 Unknown: I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water 2194 02:07:55,140 --> 02:07:55,680 just send 2195 02:07:55,680 --> 02:07:59,040 John C Dvorak: your cash Yes, I showed up money shop. Jesus. 2196 02:08:00,720 --> 02:08:04,680 That's a money shot kid. Money shot 2197 02:08:05,160 --> 02:08:08,040 Unknown: you've got karma. 2198 02:08:09,510 --> 02:08:13,830 Adam Curry: Love that number 34567 And our favorite 33333 We 2199 02:08:13,830 --> 02:08:17,910 received from Scott Lamont or Lemond or Lamar Lamar, Lemond 2200 02:08:18,270 --> 02:08:22,440 Somerset, Massachusetts, he says 1/3 downpayment on the helmet 2201 02:08:23,010 --> 02:08:26,670 than the night helmet. The next two thirds to cover the suit and 2202 02:08:26,670 --> 02:08:30,180 sword to follow eventually. Thank you Scott. We appreciate 2203 02:08:30,180 --> 02:08:30,480 that. 2204 02:08:31,110 --> 02:08:34,170 John C Dvorak: Bobby brindle horse in Mount Laurel New 2205 02:08:34,170 --> 02:08:39,630 Jersey. Three Three ITM boys. Thank you Mimi for explaining 2206 02:08:39,630 --> 02:08:42,960 the vinegar book premise. I've been waiting remember when 10 or 2207 02:08:42,960 --> 02:08:46,590 so years ago, they would play commercials about pharma causing 2208 02:08:46,590 --> 02:08:53,010 boys to have breasts. WT C seven won't go away. Bobby brindle 2209 02:08:53,010 --> 02:08:53,640 horse 2210 02:08:58,890 --> 02:08:59,910 Unknown: Jen 2211 02:09:00,210 --> 02:09:03,060 Adam Curry: Wimberly is a general Wimberly. Do you think 2212 02:09:03,090 --> 02:09:07,350 GM normal sound looks like it should be good to say Jen No, 2213 02:09:07,350 --> 02:09:14,790 Jen, Jen with a G 282 dot 28822 A two backwards and forwards. 2214 02:09:15,180 --> 02:09:18,570 Please accept this row of ducks plus small boobs donation to two 2215 02:09:18,570 --> 02:09:25,440 to 22 plus 60.06. In honor of my smokin hot boyfriend, Kyle TOEIC 2216 02:09:25,500 --> 02:09:29,160 Oh, Kyle, who would never who would never hit me in the mouth 2217 02:09:29,160 --> 02:09:33,120 but did give me a gentle pimp slap. Happy birthday from Jen 2218 02:09:33,330 --> 02:09:35,700 also with a G and please do you do Schmidt? 2219 02:09:37,350 --> 02:09:39,210 Unknown: You've been de deuced 2220 02:09:41,880 --> 02:09:46,380 John C Dvorak: Andrew Helenius in iron River, Wisconsin. In the 2221 02:09:46,380 --> 02:09:49,530 morning and thank you for your courage. I have been wronged. I 2222 02:09:49,530 --> 02:09:53,610 donated a row of ducks for 1518 and John commented the following 2223 02:09:53,610 --> 02:09:58,890 If committed the following offenses Oh, one that was not 2224 02:09:58,890 --> 02:10:01,620 credited for my dough. nation except in the show notes. 2225 02:10:02,310 --> 02:10:03,450 Adam Curry: I don't know how that happened 2226 02:10:05,910 --> 02:10:08,790 John C Dvorak: we got Adam here is monitoring every word I say 2227 02:10:08,820 --> 02:10:12,510 yeah just caught me. One of the men mentioned in my note for 2228 02:10:12,510 --> 02:10:17,160 hitting me in the mouth aka Joe flock of Joe aka flower town. 2229 02:10:17,400 --> 02:10:21,750 flavor. Flavor town was referred to as flav written you almost 2230 02:10:21,750 --> 02:10:25,560 did it wrong again. Yeah, but if I didn't read it in the first 2231 02:10:25,560 --> 02:10:28,470 place how could I do it wrong twice? Good point. 2232 02:10:28,770 --> 02:10:31,530 Adam Curry: What is that all about? Hey, just because that 2233 02:10:31,530 --> 02:10:32,670 was a scam 2234 02:10:33,599 --> 02:10:36,149 John C Dvorak: to me I wasn't credited but yet I mispronounced 2235 02:10:36,149 --> 02:10:38,189 this guy's name. That doesn't make sense. Well, maybe 2236 02:10:38,190 --> 02:10:40,260 Adam Curry: because you mispronounce his name. He says 2237 02:10:40,260 --> 02:10:42,870 he wasn't credited this seems like a little live 2238 02:10:42,870 --> 02:10:47,040 John C Dvorak: rendition of I've got answer was subpar. Wow, what 2239 02:10:47,040 --> 02:10:50,370 a complainer we didn't do any live rendition 2240 02:10:50,400 --> 02:10:51,630 Adam Curry: I don't think so either. 2241 02:10:52,710 --> 02:10:57,300 John C Dvorak: Then Adam to get switch topics. Oh, then Adam had 2242 02:10:57,300 --> 02:11:02,640 the audacity to misgendered me oh no I referring to me as a 2243 02:11:02,640 --> 02:11:07,500 she. What part of Andy with a why makes you think I'm a woman? 2244 02:11:07,530 --> 02:11:08,820 Adam Curry: Maybe it was your tone 2245 02:11:12,450 --> 02:11:16,590 John C Dvorak: anywho I'm a fellow follower in Christ. So I 2246 02:11:16,590 --> 02:11:19,980 will turn the other cheek and forgive you. Oh, yeah. Thank 2247 02:11:19,980 --> 02:11:25,710 you. It's a very forgiving note. Please accept this row of decks 2248 02:11:25,710 --> 02:11:28,170 are being your best podcast in the universe. And please give 2249 02:11:28,170 --> 02:11:31,710 the second best podcast in the universe our big dumb mouth or 2250 02:11:31,710 --> 02:11:35,850 OBD M A shout out. I have no affiliation with them just feel 2251 02:11:35,850 --> 02:11:39,330 they need more listeners. They deserve it. No jingles no karma. 2252 02:11:39,330 --> 02:11:42,780 And let's John wants to give it another try. I didn't do it in 2253 02:11:42,780 --> 02:11:49,980 the first place. I got ants by Andy helenus Salinas. Halle Lena 2254 02:11:49,980 --> 02:11:50,400 Linus 2255 02:11:51,210 --> 02:11:53,970 Adam Curry: Linus Helenius Helene you as 2256 02:11:54,450 --> 02:12:00,870 John C Dvorak: li ne us Helenius B where we iron river 2257 02:12:01,139 --> 02:12:06,269 Adam Curry: karma good karma karma Andy with a ye 2258 02:12:06,840 --> 02:12:07,740 John C Dvorak: Andy with why 2259 02:12:08,610 --> 02:12:11,700 Adam Curry: royal docks to tu tu tu tu tu from dude named Ben 2260 02:12:11,700 --> 02:12:15,090 dude named Ben here. Here again with a yearly row of ducks 2261 02:12:15,090 --> 02:12:17,610 towards knighthood which according to my bookkeeping is 2262 02:12:17,610 --> 02:12:21,360 finally here, though I did use double credits on show 1500 and 2263 02:12:21,360 --> 02:12:23,880 hit the knighthood mark then it got lost in the mess I don't 2264 02:12:23,880 --> 02:12:27,420 blame you guys. I figured a real credit was worth waiting for 2265 02:12:27,420 --> 02:12:31,560 please Knight me. Oh, this is not this is not in the in Oh, 2266 02:12:31,560 --> 02:12:33,990 interesting. This is interesting. How'd this happen? 2267 02:12:35,340 --> 02:12:39,600 This rare mistake from our new back office please Knight me 2268 02:12:39,600 --> 02:12:44,610 server of the Ohio and crest I got to write all this down. Can 2269 02:12:44,610 --> 02:12:46,590 you read this note for a sec? I gotta know after I write all 2270 02:12:46,590 --> 02:12:46,800 this 2271 02:12:46,980 --> 02:12:49,320 John C Dvorak: again. I'm nearly Rolodex towards night who was 2272 02:12:49,320 --> 02:12:52,410 according to my book give me to finally get by blah blah. I 2273 02:12:52,410 --> 02:12:55,650 don't blame you guys. I figured a real credit was worth waiting 2274 02:12:55,650 --> 02:13:01,740 for please snipe me as server of the Ohio, Ohio and crest and I'd 2275 02:13:01,740 --> 02:13:06,420 love some goulash and sliver of slivovitz was I think is that 2276 02:13:06,420 --> 02:13:11,760 fish isn't it? Sounds goulash doesn't sound good. Now, at the 2277 02:13:11,760 --> 02:13:15,390 roundtable I'm wrapping up my penultimate semester in college 2278 02:13:15,570 --> 02:13:18,900 and the show has been working overtime to keep me sane and 2279 02:13:18,900 --> 02:13:23,280 informed Nice. Despite the forces of woke ism at hand I 2280 02:13:23,280 --> 02:13:26,610 even hit a couple of people in the mouth here. And that's 2281 02:13:26,610 --> 02:13:30,900 saying something on campus keep up the fantastic work lads. I 2282 02:13:30,900 --> 02:13:33,960 look forward to the roundtable and all his family onwards to 2283 02:13:33,960 --> 02:13:38,820 barony is no jingles but looking for some graduation karma. 2284 02:13:39,030 --> 02:13:40,110 Adam Curry: You got that for you. 2285 02:13:40,140 --> 02:13:42,750 Unknown: Thank you. You've got karma and 2286 02:13:42,750 --> 02:13:45,060 Adam Curry: we've got the roundtable lined up for you got 2287 02:13:45,060 --> 02:13:46,290 that sneaky fish you want it? 2288 02:13:47,100 --> 02:13:50,040 John C Dvorak: I've got the note from anonymous that came in all 2289 02:13:50,040 --> 02:13:54,420 right, rocket. So anonymous comes in from Parts Unknown. 2290 02:13:55,230 --> 02:14:03,270 $222 And he writes by my glasses, Adam and John. I have 2291 02:14:03,270 --> 02:14:10,050 been listening since hearing Adam on Megyn Kelly show 2292 02:14:10,080 --> 02:14:13,620 Adam Curry: oh there it is the Megan Kelly dono a donor 2293 02:14:13,710 --> 02:14:17,880 John C Dvorak: here we go back in 2021. That's right. This is 2294 02:14:17,880 --> 02:14:21,180 truly the best podcast not Megan's but ours. And I 2295 02:14:21,180 --> 02:14:25,800 apologize for taking so long to donate. Keep up the good work 2296 02:14:25,830 --> 02:14:26,910 anonymous. 2297 02:14:26,940 --> 02:14:31,050 Adam Curry: Well, I'm about to reappear. Although, put it in 2298 02:14:31,050 --> 02:14:37,170 your calendar, May 31. Someone's getting fired. Whenever I'm 2299 02:14:37,170 --> 02:14:42,600 booked on the Kelly she Megyn Kelly show. It was fired last 2300 02:14:42,600 --> 02:14:46,950 time while Sharon Osbourne she got fired when I was booked and 2301 02:14:46,950 --> 02:14:50,490 they bumped me for four hours to have me on. And then it was 2302 02:14:50,640 --> 02:14:54,810 Tucker. Who by the way, Kellyanne? What's her name? Not 2303 02:14:54,810 --> 02:14:58,260 Kellyanne Conway. No, no way. No, no. Who's the who's the 2304 02:14:58,650 --> 02:15:03,120 you'd like her? The No, not Kellyanne Conway. 2305 02:15:03,150 --> 02:15:05,160 John C Dvorak: Yeah, I know the other one. Kaylee. Kayleigh. 2306 02:15:05,160 --> 02:15:07,770 McEnaney Kaylee McEnany. And then and she'll be 2307 02:15:07,830 --> 02:15:09,720 Adam Curry: she'll be in Tucker's time slot this week. 2308 02:15:10,500 --> 02:15:12,000 Yeah, well, you knew that. 2309 02:15:12,540 --> 02:15:14,880 John C Dvorak: Yeah. Or you knew that it was a big deal. I think 2310 02:15:14,880 --> 02:15:17,100 it's not going to work no of course with anybody in that 2311 02:15:17,100 --> 02:15:21,600 spot. She's She's too nice to be you know, he's you know, even 2312 02:15:21,600 --> 02:15:24,330 though he's got a big smile and he's always all you always got 2313 02:15:24,330 --> 02:15:28,980 that look, look a lot and he's he is a mean guy. I mean, he's 2314 02:15:28,980 --> 02:15:33,030 there's a meanness to him that that needs to be on that show. 2315 02:15:33,030 --> 02:15:36,360 You can't be a lightweight I mean, when Oh, Riley had to show 2316 02:15:36,360 --> 02:15:41,520 is a mean prick. So this guy is you know, he's kind of a mean 2317 02:15:41,520 --> 02:15:45,390 guy to is funny mean, but she doesn't have a bone of meanness 2318 02:15:45,390 --> 02:15:46,110 in her. She 2319 02:15:46,110 --> 02:15:49,440 Adam Curry: really doesn't. She really doesn't. Yeah, but I 2320 02:15:49,440 --> 02:15:53,010 mean, isn't it just for a week? I don't think it's I don't think 2321 02:15:53,010 --> 02:15:53,310 it's 2322 02:15:53,370 --> 02:15:55,260 John C Dvorak: uh, but he made it sound like she's gonna take 2323 02:15:55,260 --> 02:15:59,340 the spot. I did I make it sound like that. I didn't know they 2324 02:15:59,370 --> 02:16:02,100 didn't do the trades. Oh, okay. 2325 02:16:02,730 --> 02:16:08,880 Adam Curry: The trades. You go $200 from James Lawler who's an 2326 02:16:08,880 --> 02:16:13,710 Oklahoma City, Oklahoma sir Jimmy James here. And a whole 2327 02:16:13,710 --> 02:16:19,050 bunch of hashtags. shows have been amazing as of late the best 2328 02:16:19,050 --> 02:16:22,800 podcast in the universe. Oh, and our next UI who we meet up as a 2329 02:16:22,800 --> 02:16:27,540 Saturday and I hear Adam may make it J K. God bless. Thank 2330 02:16:27,540 --> 02:16:31,380 you for your courage. JK indeed. No, I'm going to the goat I'm 2331 02:16:31,380 --> 02:16:35,190 going to finally go to the Austin meetup again. In docs 2332 02:16:35,190 --> 02:16:37,620 backyard on Saturday rare parents rare appearance 2333 02:16:37,620 --> 02:16:39,420 everybody join us there Doc's back. 2334 02:16:40,620 --> 02:16:42,300 John C Dvorak: If you're going to give any donations to the 2335 02:16:42,300 --> 02:16:43,800 show, put them in an envelope with 2336 02:16:43,800 --> 02:16:46,260 Adam Curry: a note with yes with a note with a note with a note 2337 02:16:46,260 --> 02:16:49,740 please. And the final Associate Executive Producer to under 2338 02:16:49,740 --> 02:16:53,400 dollars is Roderick prince from Scottsdale Arizona, no notes so 2339 02:16:53,400 --> 02:16:59,910 he gets a coveted double up donation karma. Karma. I'll 2340 02:16:59,910 --> 02:17:02,760 prepare the roundtable John will take us through the 50s 2341 02:17:03,330 --> 02:17:06,210 John C Dvorak: and on we go with Paul Lawrence and Dayton, Texas. 2342 02:17:06,210 --> 02:17:12,240 160 16 as some sort of boom man thing, not sure what it means 2343 02:17:12,390 --> 02:17:21,030 anonymous 9608 And then right away. I'm sorry, I jumped ahead. 2344 02:17:21,570 --> 02:17:25,710 Bruce Schwalm of the sron the farm in Harrisburg, 2345 02:17:25,710 --> 02:17:33,030 Pennsylvania, when 3388 and then Diane tshwane back in John's 2346 02:17:33,030 --> 02:17:38,340 Burg Illinois $150 And she's got a birthday caught to her to 2347 02:17:38,370 --> 02:17:45,030 David. Brian to Lekki in Lincoln, Nebraska 111 11 Victor 2348 02:17:45,030 --> 02:17:53,910 Vandenberg and hares John Dom, which is here's Jan's dam, here, 2349 02:17:53,910 --> 02:17:54,900 you're here. Yawns 2350 02:17:54,899 --> 02:17:55,349 Adam Curry: dumb. 2351 02:17:55,859 --> 02:18:00,689 John C Dvorak: Here, Young's dumb in Holland. Yes. $100. 2352 02:18:01,859 --> 02:18:04,949 Anthony Caruso in Orlando, Florida is $100 He needs a D 2353 02:18:04,949 --> 02:18:05,429 douching. 2354 02:18:07,830 --> 02:18:09,690 Unknown: You've been D deuced. 2355 02:18:11,700 --> 02:18:14,040 John C Dvorak: Kerry Jackson Watertown, Tennessee 100. 2356 02:18:14,220 --> 02:18:22,140 Sebastian corage Mon koi mom. Boy mon Sebastian koi mon in 2357 02:18:22,140 --> 02:18:31,320 Amsterdam. 9608. Sir Kevin McLaughlin in Lucas, North 2358 02:18:31,320 --> 02:18:41,040 Carolina 808. He's continuing to trend along without glue gun 2359 02:18:41,040 --> 02:18:47,670 suelen in Missouri City, Texas 808 Alexis row bliss Robles 2360 02:18:47,700 --> 02:18:54,930 Robles, Robles Robles in Chula Vista, California. 77777. And 2361 02:18:54,930 --> 02:19:02,250 she needs a de douching. You've been de deuced and her brother, 2362 02:19:02,400 --> 02:19:08,280 you Julio or Julio Julio? Call it needs a call out as a 2363 02:19:08,280 --> 02:19:08,880 douchebag. 2364 02:19:11,309 --> 02:19:12,089 Adam Curry: Close call. 2365 02:19:12,869 --> 02:19:20,819 John C Dvorak: Daniel Rodriguez in Doral, Florida 7175. Michael 2366 02:19:20,849 --> 02:19:28,469 de la rosiere in Maryville tech Tennessee 5555 with a birdie 2367 02:19:28,469 --> 02:19:35,999 call out. William Alston if at 523 Andrew K Hill in Batavia, 2368 02:19:36,569 --> 02:19:43,529 Ohio, 55 One d3. Now these are all the fabulous 85 two this is 2369 02:19:43,529 --> 02:19:46,709 our this is the fabulous cinco Maione 2370 02:19:46,769 --> 02:19:47,759 Adam Curry: Andrew needs to do Do 2371 02:19:49,590 --> 02:19:51,420 Unknown: you been D deuced? 2372 02:19:51,900 --> 02:19:56,820 John C Dvorak: Cat Morton in Charlotte, North Carolina 5523 2373 02:19:56,910 --> 02:20:04,770 Rita Harrington 5520 Sir, hold on a second. Oh, Divide 23 Colin 2374 02:20:04,800 --> 02:20:08,940 petitive 523 This these came my way I got six of them. That's 2375 02:20:08,940 --> 02:20:13,140 not to Bandy Meyer and Merritt. Washington is a killer 3523 2376 02:20:14,700 --> 02:20:20,100 Dwayne Shalit in parts of no 5523 Okay, that's the end of 2377 02:20:20,100 --> 02:20:26,760 them. Matthew Davenport in Hyde, Cheshire, UK 55 George Sousa in 2378 02:20:26,760 --> 02:20:33,420 Hill mark, California. Please if it is 333 Please call out David 2379 02:20:33,720 --> 02:20:42,390 and Jim as douchebags. Michael gates 50 to 82 Jose Hosea are 2380 02:20:42,390 --> 02:20:47,640 Josiah Thomason, and Kenny Iowa 51. And the following people 2381 02:20:47,640 --> 02:20:53,280 finally are the $50 donors. shortlist elects Alex Zavala and 2382 02:20:53,280 --> 02:20:59,370 Cal Texas Villareal Villareal Michael Lebar, in Williamston, 2383 02:20:59,880 --> 02:21:05,670 Michigan, Philip, Kouzmanoff ski in Austin, Texas, Ryan Tiernan 2384 02:21:05,670 --> 02:21:09,360 in North Providence, Rhode Island, Jonathan Ferris and 2385 02:21:09,360 --> 02:21:15,360 liberal Kansas Matthew Smith and Colchester UK Robertson home 2386 02:21:15,360 --> 02:21:19,860 Robertson home in Flint, Michigan, Edward Mazurek in 2387 02:21:19,860 --> 02:21:24,450 Memphis, Tennessee Jonathan Meyer in Xenia, Ohio and last on 2388 02:21:24,450 --> 02:21:28,260 the list into hatchapee. California comes Justin Cruz, 2389 02:21:28,260 --> 02:21:34,530 one of the thank these folks are making show the defy 5351 553 a 2390 02:21:34,530 --> 02:21:35,040 winner 2391 02:21:35,100 --> 02:21:37,350 Adam Curry: and thank you again to our executive and Associate 2392 02:21:37,350 --> 02:21:40,680 Executive producers, who we read at the top of this segment and 2393 02:21:40,680 --> 02:21:44,520 all you who came in under $50. Either for anonymity we will not 2394 02:21:44,520 --> 02:21:48,570 read anything under that, or you're on one of the many, many 2395 02:21:48,570 --> 02:21:51,240 subscriptions which are recurring donations, really 2396 02:21:51,240 --> 02:21:54,690 sustaining donations, how we like to look at them. And we 2397 02:21:54,690 --> 02:21:57,300 really appreciate you signing up for that please go to our 2398 02:21:57,300 --> 02:21:59,130 donation page to learn more about them 2399 02:21:59,130 --> 02:22:03,150 Unknown: to vote.org/and A for forget, 2400 02:22:03,150 --> 02:22:05,220 Adam Curry: I wanted to thank Secret Agent Paul, we were 2401 02:22:05,250 --> 02:22:10,350 talking about the Clip of the Day jingle. And that was indeed 2402 02:22:10,350 --> 02:22:14,280 Secret Agent Paul, who created the Clip of the Day jingle and 2403 02:22:14,310 --> 02:22:17,850 the borderline Clip of the Day jingle. And he said it was in 2404 02:22:17,850 --> 02:22:21,480 fact a him and not Madonna seeing the borderline in the 2405 02:22:21,480 --> 02:22:25,680 borderline Clip of the Day. And maybe I should mention, just 2406 02:22:25,710 --> 02:22:28,560 people request jingles. But I want to just tell you some of 2407 02:22:28,560 --> 02:22:34,770 the jingles the guy's done. F cancer pet peeve of the day. 2408 02:22:35,040 --> 02:22:39,600 Open up Mr. Dvorak words do matter Putin on the rich the 2409 02:22:39,600 --> 02:22:43,080 magical shave ship shapeshifting Jews and one of my favorites 2410 02:22:43,080 --> 02:22:43,650 this one 2411 02:22:51,330 --> 02:22:56,190 I mean, that guy's got chops. I mean that's 2412 02:22:57,270 --> 02:22:59,610 John C Dvorak: and then yeah, but yeah, we need more stuff 2413 02:22:59,610 --> 02:23:00,150 from him. 2414 02:23:00,510 --> 02:23:02,850 Adam Curry: And I don't and I thought that he had done this 2415 02:23:02,850 --> 02:23:05,700 next one which I will pull out of the closet because we talked 2416 02:23:05,700 --> 02:23:08,580 about her but he did not I don't know who does this one 2417 02:23:17,550 --> 02:23:25,590 John C Dvorak: such a good one. What is that, Kaylee? Yeah, yes, 2418 02:23:25,590 --> 02:23:28,920 the Kaylee jingle? Yeah, it's the Kaylee jingle goes on 2419 02:23:28,920 --> 02:23:30,780 forever. She's got to show now so 2420 02:23:31,260 --> 02:23:33,570 Adam Curry: they can use this as the opening as the show tomb? 2421 02:23:34,290 --> 02:23:37,020 Yeah, just a thought. Thank you all very much this morning 2422 02:23:37,020 --> 02:23:40,920 episode number 1553. Have no agenda. Our formula 2423 02:23:40,920 --> 02:23:44,850 Unknown: is this. We go out. We hit people in the mouth. 2424 02:24:04,650 --> 02:24:08,910 Adam Curry: We do have a list sir. Dancing. Mike turns 55 On 2425 02:24:08,910 --> 02:24:13,680 Monday we congratulate him in advance. General Wimberly, which 2426 02:24:13,680 --> 02:24:20,280 is her smokin hot boyfriend. Kyle Twohig. Happy birthday. And 2427 02:24:20,280 --> 02:24:24,810 Diane Swanton Beck wishes David Swan, Jr. Happy birthday we say 2428 02:24:24,810 --> 02:24:28,470 happy birthday to everybody here from the back office and the 2429 02:24:28,470 --> 02:24:31,260 tube producers and CO hosts of the best podcast in the 2430 02:24:31,260 --> 02:24:38,250 universe. And as we just found out we have to Oh, May 10 Am I 2431 02:24:38,250 --> 02:24:41,310 mistaken? Doesn't matter. We have not one but we have two 2432 02:24:41,340 --> 02:24:43,650 nights to bring into the roundtable. 2433 02:24:44,010 --> 02:24:45,960 John C Dvorak: Good. I got two Knight's sword. 2434 02:24:46,920 --> 02:24:48,600 Unknown: Nice. Perfect. 2435 02:24:49,920 --> 02:24:54,060 Adam Curry: Up on the podium plays can we have while you're 2436 02:24:54,060 --> 02:24:58,560 really loud? Mark capenhurst and dude named Ben both of us for 2437 02:24:58,560 --> 02:25:01,500 the no agenda podcast. 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We have the build Snohomish 2455 02:26:06,210 --> 02:26:09,960 back better meetup, which kicks off in a couple hours three 2456 02:26:09,960 --> 02:26:13,680 o'clock in Snohomish, Washington. Sound to summit 2457 02:26:13,680 --> 02:26:16,560 brewing is where you want to be. And on Thursday our next show 2458 02:26:16,560 --> 02:26:20,160 day at Look, here's the real deal. Meet up no joke 630 at 2459 02:26:20,160 --> 02:26:23,370 Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado and coming up in the 2460 02:26:23,370 --> 02:26:26,730 next week. We've got St. Louis, Missouri, Oklahoma City, 2461 02:26:26,730 --> 02:26:30,630 Oklahoma and then of course, Austin, Sunset Valley, Texas on 2462 02:26:30,930 --> 02:26:35,520 Saturday, Arnold Annapolis area. Boston, Massachusetts Lewisburg, 2463 02:26:35,520 --> 02:26:38,490 Pennsylvania, Bronx, New York, Houston, Texas. The list is 2464 02:26:38,520 --> 02:26:41,970 endless all over the world. You've got to go to one of 2465 02:26:41,970 --> 02:26:46,200 these, which is the one you're going to the one in Austin, the 2466 02:26:46,200 --> 02:26:50,040 Austin Sunset Valley Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, 2467 02:26:50,040 --> 02:26:54,660 Saturday, Saturday. 1000 funny cars meet the pod father. Why? 2468 02:26:56,250 --> 02:26:59,100 John C Dvorak: I thought it was to tomorrow or some Friday. I 2469 02:26:59,100 --> 02:27:04,080 don't know which no. Okay. Is the day before Mother's Day 2470 02:27:04,080 --> 02:27:04,350 then? 2471 02:27:04,470 --> 02:27:06,600 Adam Curry: Yes, it is. In fact, the Mother's Day meet up. That's 2472 02:27:06,600 --> 02:27:11,730 correct. Okay. Yeah. Wait, hey, do you think people will do a 2473 02:27:11,730 --> 02:27:14,220 Mother's Day donation this year for the show? 2474 02:27:16,320 --> 02:27:18,060 John C Dvorak: This is a good question. I mean, 2475 02:27:18,390 --> 02:27:20,880 Adam Curry: during COVID People love their moms but then yeah, 2476 02:27:20,880 --> 02:27:25,200 now they hate their mom and mom is very odd the hell's going on 2477 02:27:25,200 --> 02:27:28,830 and think about how we now have about a 5050 split between men 2478 02:27:28,830 --> 02:27:32,370 and women listening to this podcast. And I would have to say 2479 02:27:32,400 --> 02:27:35,100 a lot of them are moms This is a great way moms love it. Moms 2480 02:27:35,100 --> 02:27:38,520 love being paid attention to by the dynamic duo known as 2481 02:27:38,520 --> 02:27:41,940 crackpot and Buzzkill. So get your donation in for mom. Just 2482 02:27:41,940 --> 02:27:44,160 trying to just trying to get everybody all excited about it. 2483 02:27:45,450 --> 02:27:48,360 No agenda meetups.com is where you can find all the meetups 2484 02:27:48,360 --> 02:27:50,970 find one near you if you can. Why don't you start one 2485 02:27:50,970 --> 02:27:54,630 yourself? It's easy no agenda meetup.com Guaranteed apart a 2486 02:27:58,620 --> 02:28:17,970 nice day you Unity will be triggered everybody feels like I 2487 02:28:17,970 --> 02:28:21,030 have three ISOs Oh, you have three ISOs to I see. 2488 02:28:21,660 --> 02:28:22,800 John C Dvorak: It's balanced, balanced. 2489 02:28:23,070 --> 02:28:25,230 Adam Curry: Balanced. Shall I play mine first then? Yeah, 2490 02:28:25,230 --> 02:28:25,800 please. 2491 02:28:25,860 --> 02:28:26,520 John C Dvorak: II 2492 02:28:29,340 --> 02:28:33,750 Adam Curry: that's one. I find it interesting, man. Kinda like 2493 02:28:33,750 --> 02:28:34,440 the whoopee. 2494 02:28:34,680 --> 02:28:37,710 Unknown: I think they're pretty darn good. You go. 2495 02:28:41,070 --> 02:28:44,220 John C Dvorak: Okay, well, let's go with I've gotten three. Let's 2496 02:28:44,220 --> 02:28:45,540 start with rats. 2497 02:28:45,750 --> 02:28:50,400 Adam Curry: Okay, I hate rats. Okay. 2498 02:28:51,540 --> 02:28:53,130 John C Dvorak: Oh, tell you gotta do better. 2499 02:28:53,370 --> 02:28:55,980 Adam Curry: Do better. Are we saving the best for last? No 2500 02:28:55,980 --> 02:28:57,750 doubt. Here we go. And we need to do better. 2501 02:28:59,670 --> 02:29:01,680 John C Dvorak: Is the show is lousy. We could play that. Yeah. 2502 02:29:01,680 --> 02:29:04,110 When it wasn't last. And then of course, there's this one, which 2503 02:29:04,110 --> 02:29:06,060 is famous the world over now. 2504 02:29:06,330 --> 02:29:08,820 Unknown: Remember, Please mind the gap? Yeah. 2505 02:29:09,570 --> 02:29:11,790 Adam Curry: I think I think we're good to go. I just saw the 2506 02:29:11,790 --> 02:29:15,060 title. Mike. If it's if the quality is good, it's a winner, 2507 02:29:15,330 --> 02:29:16,290 definite winner. 2508 02:29:16,680 --> 02:29:18,540 John C Dvorak: And by the way, it wasn't easy to find the good 2509 02:29:18,540 --> 02:29:22,950 quality version. Right? Because people were just recording it in 2510 02:29:22,950 --> 02:29:27,180 the subway stations is that was Prince Charles. Didn't get a 2511 02:29:27,180 --> 02:29:28,110 clue about that. Very 2512 02:29:28,110 --> 02:29:30,900 Adam Curry: good one. We didn't talk about on the last show. I 2513 02:29:30,900 --> 02:29:35,700 do want to mention it. That now all of a sudden, apparently may 2514 02:29:35,700 --> 02:29:39,240 11. They end the vaccine requirements for and I've read 2515 02:29:39,240 --> 02:29:40,410 this and I'd say it's now 2516 02:29:40,949 --> 02:29:43,529 John C Dvorak: are we taking bets on whether they extend it? 2517 02:29:43,770 --> 02:29:45,840 Adam Curry: No, they won't. Because while everyone's all 2518 02:29:45,840 --> 02:29:49,440 jacked and Judy myself included because now I can fly my my 2519 02:29:49,440 --> 02:29:54,720 daughter and her fiance over since he neither of them are 2520 02:29:54,720 --> 02:29:55,530 vaccinated. 2521 02:29:56,010 --> 02:29:57,480 John C Dvorak: Yeah, but she doesn't he she is an American 2522 02:29:57,480 --> 02:29:58,980 citizen. Correct? Correct. But 2523 02:29:59,580 --> 02:30:01,530 Adam Curry: she went Want to bring him or her Merman? 2524 02:30:02,310 --> 02:30:03,420 John C Dvorak: She could have ditched him? 2525 02:30:06,779 --> 02:30:08,909 Adam Curry: We don't we're not going to take relationship 2526 02:30:08,909 --> 02:30:14,159 advice from you. Okay. But unfortunately, what this really 2527 02:30:14,159 --> 02:30:17,609 is all about is title 42 being dropped. And that means we will 2528 02:30:17,609 --> 02:30:23,249 have an influx of 10, at minimum 10,000 migrants coming across 2529 02:30:23,249 --> 02:30:27,209 the border flooding our border towns, mainly of Texas. It's 2530 02:30:27,209 --> 02:30:30,059 going to be an absolute mess, it's going to be 2531 02:30:30,630 --> 02:30:32,550 John C Dvorak: that that's just a supposition. No, 2532 02:30:33,450 --> 02:30:36,180 Adam Curry: it's going to happen. They're already lining 2533 02:30:36,180 --> 02:30:39,660 up there ready, May 11. And then boom, they're in because title 2534 02:30:39,660 --> 02:30:47,760 LeBrons, what the title 42 was used with COVID as a as a, as a 2535 02:30:48,030 --> 02:30:50,970 kind of a, what do you call it? It's a word. 2536 02:30:50,970 --> 02:30:52,650 John C Dvorak: I'm looking for utterances the word you're 2537 02:30:52,650 --> 02:30:53,070 looking for. 2538 02:30:53,430 --> 02:30:57,150 Adam Curry: Maybe I'm using deterrence to turn people away. 2539 02:30:57,150 --> 02:30:59,190 Well, you don't have your vaccination to get out of here. 2540 02:30:59,610 --> 02:31:02,670 But now that's going away. So the Biden administration, I'm 2541 02:31:02,670 --> 02:31:07,320 sure they wanted to still leave the the air restriction in place 2542 02:31:07,320 --> 02:31:09,630 for international travelers, but they couldn't quite sell that 2543 02:31:09,630 --> 02:31:13,740 and you know that Jabr over it combat guy can come in and play 2544 02:31:13,740 --> 02:31:18,690 the US Open, whatever his name is Bozo, bozo. Jevic. Yeah, but 2545 02:31:18,690 --> 02:31:24,180 it's it's sad. It's not this is just problematic. But I do have 2546 02:31:24,180 --> 02:31:27,240 a clip kind of explains. And this is another C span clip. 2547 02:31:28,170 --> 02:31:32,520 This is an entrepreneur, a business owner, who's now these 2548 02:31:32,520 --> 02:31:38,550 are h2 A immigrants, which is a h2 as temporary, you can get a 2549 02:31:38,550 --> 02:31:44,850 temporary seasonal visa, which I think many are taking advantage 2550 02:31:44,850 --> 02:31:50,070 of to come in. The reason why he's hiring these employers as 2551 02:31:50,070 --> 02:31:54,330 employees is perhaps interesting to some maybe surprising 2552 02:31:54,390 --> 02:31:57,240 Unknown: that, John really quickly, why are you having to 2553 02:31:57,240 --> 02:32:03,240 use these workers? Why can't you use American born workers to do 2554 02:32:03,240 --> 02:32:04,320 the same work? 2555 02:32:05,100 --> 02:32:10,860 I, I would get nothing more than to let that happen. We have to 2556 02:32:10,890 --> 02:32:17,130 advertise these jobs. Before we can submit our petition, we have 2557 02:32:17,130 --> 02:32:22,380 to advertise these jobs here. And no one calls high school 2558 02:32:22,380 --> 02:32:24,210 kids will not do these jobs. 2559 02:32:24,690 --> 02:32:28,080 How much are you paying for those jobs? John, what's the 2560 02:32:28,080 --> 02:32:29,520 what's the going rate right now? 2561 02:32:30,840 --> 02:32:36,810 1515 to $17 an hour, but I would much rather pay a guy down the 2562 02:32:36,810 --> 02:32:42,180 street to come to work for me every day for $20 an hour, 2563 02:32:42,360 --> 02:32:46,290 instead of paying the HTA people to come from Mexico for $20 now, 2564 02:32:46,770 --> 02:32:52,350 but I do those people that do come from Mexico are extremely 2565 02:32:52,350 --> 02:32:55,650 hard workers. And most of the time, they're extremely good 2566 02:32:55,650 --> 02:32:56,070 people. 2567 02:32:56,700 --> 02:32:59,820 Adam Curry: Yeah, this is a mystery to me. And I was talking 2568 02:32:59,820 --> 02:33:04,020 to Cole from KFC cattle. Because what we're trying to do here is 2569 02:33:04,560 --> 02:33:07,860 because we instead of paying for shipping on beef that we order 2570 02:33:07,860 --> 02:33:11,520 from KFC cattle to come from Luling, which is on the east 2571 02:33:11,520 --> 02:33:15,990 side of Austin. We do one order with like, you know, eight 910 2572 02:33:15,990 --> 02:33:18,960 families that come out with a van they delivered to our house. 2573 02:33:19,620 --> 02:33:21,870 You know, we collect all the checks and everything. And you 2574 02:33:21,870 --> 02:33:23,520 know, it's kind of like a community thing. And when comes 2575 02:33:23,520 --> 02:33:25,980 by to get their beef and everyone orders a lot more. 2576 02:33:26,160 --> 02:33:30,240 Everybody wins, basically. And so they were really hustling 2577 02:33:30,240 --> 02:33:33,870 around and they were going to be a little bit late on delivery 2578 02:33:33,870 --> 02:33:36,780 day. And Cole calls me he says, I'm sorry, man, we'll just go 2579 02:33:36,780 --> 02:33:41,340 nuts. Two weeks ago, I hired 10 people. Today only two of them 2580 02:33:41,340 --> 02:33:46,710 showed up. They don't even call and they just they just don't 2581 02:33:46,710 --> 02:33:48,510 feel like working anymore. They're done with the job. And 2582 02:33:48,510 --> 02:33:52,050 they just don't even come back in. What what are these people 2583 02:33:52,050 --> 02:33:54,180 living off of? Is their government money? I'm not aware 2584 02:33:54,180 --> 02:33:54,510 of. 2585 02:33:55,650 --> 02:33:58,680 John C Dvorak: There must be it probably is. That's it? That's 2586 02:33:58,680 --> 02:34:03,150 nuts. You have to look into it. Find out maybe there is maybe 2587 02:34:03,150 --> 02:34:04,860 this government money. He says 2588 02:34:04,890 --> 02:34:06,720 Adam Curry: we have there. He's what they must be getting some 2589 02:34:06,720 --> 02:34:12,210 government money. I do not understand it. is maddening. 2590 02:34:13,200 --> 02:34:13,650 Have no 2591 02:34:13,650 --> 02:34:15,330 John C Dvorak: transition clipped or anything? 2592 02:34:17,520 --> 02:34:19,770 Adam Curry: Actually, I can transition well, from the border 2593 02:34:19,770 --> 02:34:23,340 stuff. Just something I want to mention, because there's almost 2594 02:34:23,340 --> 02:34:26,790 no discussion of it. But the Supreme Court is, you know, 2595 02:34:26,790 --> 02:34:29,760 certainly Republicans on the Supreme Court are continuously 2596 02:34:29,760 --> 02:34:33,690 under attack for all kinds of Clarence Thomas would be the 2597 02:34:33,690 --> 02:34:37,620 number one. But there's a decision that the Supreme Court 2598 02:34:37,620 --> 02:34:41,220 has decided to take on and it's regarding the Chevron deference. 2599 02:34:41,550 --> 02:34:44,250 And I wanted to bring that up so that people can keep their eye 2600 02:34:44,250 --> 02:34:46,890 on and if you find a clip or find an article about it, are 2601 02:34:46,890 --> 02:34:48,810 you familiar with the Chevron deference? 2602 02:34:50,250 --> 02:34:51,810 Unknown: No, no, 2603 02:34:51,840 --> 02:34:55,380 Adam Curry: this is Chevron deference is a ruling that for 2604 02:34:55,380 --> 02:35:03,720 40 years, has basically has said Uh, you know, any agency in the 2605 02:35:03,720 --> 02:35:08,700 United States can interpret law as written by Congress kind of 2606 02:35:08,700 --> 02:35:12,450 the way they want to do it. And this has to do with Chevron from 2607 02:35:12,450 --> 02:35:14,760 a long time ago. And that does they call it the chevron 2608 02:35:14,760 --> 02:35:17,910 doctrine or the Chevron deference. And the reason I put 2609 02:35:17,910 --> 02:35:20,640 it in the show notes if you want to read up on that case from 40 2610 02:35:20,640 --> 02:35:25,620 years ago. Now, of course, the whole reason we have this border 2611 02:35:25,650 --> 02:35:33,870 problem is because the Border Patrol, CPB and, and Department 2612 02:35:33,870 --> 02:35:38,760 of Homeland Security, they are by no, they are interpreting the 2613 02:35:38,760 --> 02:35:42,270 law, the way that's handy for them, that works out for them 2614 02:35:42,270 --> 02:35:45,270 politically, or whatever they whatever reason they have for 2615 02:35:45,270 --> 02:35:48,480 letting many people into the country illegally and letting 2616 02:35:48,480 --> 02:35:51,360 them you know, the catch and release all of that is because 2617 02:35:51,360 --> 02:35:54,870 they can interpret law the way they want. If the Supreme Court 2618 02:35:54,930 --> 02:35:58,830 takes on this, this case, what they're going to take it on, but 2619 02:35:58,830 --> 02:36:04,500 if they overrule the chevron doctrine, that would mean that 2620 02:36:04,500 --> 02:36:08,640 whenever you can bring a lawsuit against any agency to say, Hey, 2621 02:36:08,670 --> 02:36:13,140 you are not adhering to the law, and then this, the federal 2622 02:36:13,140 --> 02:36:15,810 court, and it can go all the way up, the Supreme Court will then 2623 02:36:15,840 --> 02:36:20,100 evaluate if there's any ambiguity in the law, it will 2624 02:36:20,100 --> 02:36:24,600 either have to be redefined by Congress or the agency will have 2625 02:36:24,600 --> 02:36:30,060 to actually adhere to the law. And I think this harassment of 2626 02:36:30,720 --> 02:36:32,850 the Supreme Court may have something to do with this, it's 2627 02:36:32,850 --> 02:36:35,280 really not discussed, no one wants to talk about this, 2628 02:36:35,280 --> 02:36:38,730 because that could really change things. Just think about how all 2629 02:36:38,730 --> 02:36:41,790 these agencies overstep their boundaries everywhere. 2630 02:36:44,700 --> 02:36:46,740 John C Dvorak: So that's kind of interesting. I wish we had some 2631 02:36:46,740 --> 02:36:48,690 discussion about it. With 2632 02:36:48,900 --> 02:36:51,360 Adam Curry: nothing, there's nothing there's no clips, 2633 02:36:51,390 --> 02:36:56,400 there's no there's some articles. You know, the hill has 2634 02:36:56,400 --> 02:37:01,590 an article on it. But that's about the bright, and that's 2635 02:37:01,590 --> 02:37:06,900 about it. Here nearly four decades of judicial experience 2636 02:37:06,900 --> 02:37:09,660 with Chevron have demonstrated that courts are incapable of 2637 02:37:09,660 --> 02:37:12,930 applying its two step Chevron framework and consistent manner. 2638 02:37:13,440 --> 02:37:17,460 So you know, the, in this case is actually is being brought by 2639 02:37:17,490 --> 02:37:21,930 the Supreme Court is taking on his herring fishing company, a 2640 02:37:21,930 --> 02:37:25,200 herring fishing company, Loper bright enterprises, I think 2641 02:37:25,200 --> 02:37:30,900 they're in where I'm where they're they there's a ruling 2642 02:37:31,680 --> 02:37:37,950 from the National Marine Fishery Service regulation, that herring 2643 02:37:37,950 --> 02:37:42,360 fishing boats have to allow a federal observer aboard every 2644 02:37:42,450 --> 02:37:46,980 ship to oversee operations and compensate them for their time. 2645 02:37:47,760 --> 02:37:51,030 And then the company saying this regulation significantly 2646 02:37:51,030 --> 02:37:54,420 decreases their profit. And so that's the case that the Supreme 2647 02:37:54,420 --> 02:37:58,170 Court is taking on. So I yeah, I think this I think it's a big 2648 02:37:58,170 --> 02:37:58,590 deal. 2649 02:37:59,160 --> 02:38:03,030 John C Dvorak: But we'll find out soon enough. Yeah. Yeah, 2650 02:38:03,060 --> 02:38:06,330 I'll try to look into as he was going on, I have some 2651 02:38:06,330 --> 02:38:10,710 miscellaneous clips. I think one we should we talked about what 2652 02:38:10,710 --> 02:38:15,630 was it? Emotional learning and how it improves everything. You 2653 02:38:15,630 --> 02:38:16,560 know, Mercer, you know? 2654 02:38:18,420 --> 02:38:20,850 Adam Curry: Sel, social, emotional, emotional learning. 2655 02:38:20,850 --> 02:38:21,690 Yes. Yeah. It's 2656 02:38:21,690 --> 02:38:23,460 John C Dvorak: so important because it makes people do 2657 02:38:23,490 --> 02:38:26,400 you're playing Nations report card that says the results. 2658 02:38:26,580 --> 02:38:30,030 Unknown: Nations Report Card, so called Nations Report Card is 2659 02:38:30,030 --> 02:38:34,260 out for civics and US history, and it's not great. History 2660 02:38:34,260 --> 02:38:37,440 scores for eighth graders are the lowest since this particular 2661 02:38:37,440 --> 02:38:41,640 testing started 99 Before the new data also shows the first 2662 02:38:41,640 --> 02:38:45,300 ever drop in civics. This is from the National Assessment of 2663 02:38:45,300 --> 02:38:48,000 Educational Progress, which is run by the US Department of 2664 02:38:48,000 --> 02:38:48,660 Education. 2665 02:38:50,190 --> 02:38:52,530 John C Dvorak: surprised I was just mentioned that you were 2666 02:38:52,530 --> 02:38:55,290 still falling apart thanks to social and emotional emotional 2667 02:38:55,290 --> 02:38:59,520 or is not doing anything. No, no. And I got this one, which is 2668 02:38:59,520 --> 02:39:02,580 kind of school related, which is the teacher that's suing the 2669 02:39:02,580 --> 02:39:06,750 school in Texas, I think. No, no, I'm sorry. Riverside County, 2670 02:39:06,750 --> 02:39:12,690 California, Texas. Teachers Sue school over trans and not 2671 02:39:12,690 --> 02:39:15,270 telling parents you did. She thought you should be able to 2672 02:39:15,270 --> 02:39:18,030 tell the parents that the kid was being called Nancy. 2673 02:39:18,540 --> 02:39:21,570 Unknown: A former California Teacher is suing her district 2674 02:39:21,600 --> 02:39:22,230 over claims 2675 02:39:22,230 --> 02:39:26,340 she was fired for refusing to hide kids gender transitions 2676 02:39:26,550 --> 02:39:30,390 from their parents. Jessica Tapia says she was discriminated 2677 02:39:30,390 --> 02:39:33,540 against for her Christian beliefs and warns that what 2678 02:39:33,540 --> 02:39:37,170 happened to her can happen to anybody. Jessica Tapia joins us 2679 02:39:37,200 --> 02:39:41,370 along with Vice President and legal counsel for advocates for 2680 02:39:41,370 --> 02:39:43,830 Faith and Freedom. Mariah Gan dear. 2681 02:39:45,330 --> 02:39:52,080 Thanks so much for joining the program. Why did you decide to 2682 02:39:52,080 --> 02:39:55,110 tell to inform the parents? And yeah, great 2683 02:39:55,110 --> 02:40:01,680 Adam Curry: question. Wow, and the apprehension of why, I mean, 2684 02:40:01,680 --> 02:40:06,240 why would you why would you tell the parents? Oh my god, we're 2685 02:40:06,240 --> 02:40:08,970 not gonna go through all of what I've received. I did put a 2686 02:40:08,970 --> 02:40:13,650 number of parent notes. In the show notes under trans Maoism 2687 02:40:13,650 --> 02:40:17,100 which we are still under attack by in the United States is one 2688 02:40:17,100 --> 02:40:20,370 of the only one of the only countries left. I did want to 2689 02:40:20,370 --> 02:40:27,330 share this one. And all these are anonymous. Our first Bob our 2690 02:40:27,330 --> 02:40:30,120 homeschool daughter was homeschooled during COVID, which 2691 02:40:30,120 --> 02:40:34,200 you mentioned John was convinced she hated her body and was a boy 2692 02:40:34,230 --> 02:40:38,640 at 12 and 2020. Surprise surprise. Our first signal was 2693 02:40:38,640 --> 02:40:41,160 her daughter 12 at the time saying she wanted to be a boy 2694 02:40:41,160 --> 02:40:45,780 and use he him pronouns on a Minecraft homeschool server she 2695 02:40:45,780 --> 02:40:49,680 had been on for several years. And the and the Midwest faith 2696 02:40:49,680 --> 02:40:54,300 based principal giving me a call. Thank you principle. My 2697 02:40:54,300 --> 02:40:56,760 wife and I spoke to my daughter and she denied it was anything 2698 02:40:56,760 --> 02:40:59,580 special. We didn't dismiss it as role playing, which happened 2699 02:40:59,610 --> 02:41:02,250 often on this server. But several weeks later, I was 2700 02:41:02,250 --> 02:41:06,030 looking through the logs on our personal Minecraft server. Good 2701 02:41:06,090 --> 02:41:10,320 on you parents for knowing what you're doing. And found a king 2702 02:41:10,350 --> 02:41:14,820 Eric user logged in. I was asking my son if he invited them 2703 02:41:14,820 --> 02:41:17,760 or do I need to implement a whitelist My daughter went up 2704 02:41:17,760 --> 02:41:20,370 and said no, no, that's me. My wife looked through her 2705 02:41:20,370 --> 02:41:23,280 electronics and found out she was talking with a group of San 2706 02:41:23,280 --> 02:41:30,480 Diego kids on scratch.mit.edu mit.edu a visual 2707 02:41:30,480 --> 02:41:34,020 programming site for kids. The spun off from the Minecraft home 2708 02:41:34,020 --> 02:41:37,320 server, the homeschool server and they were encouraged her not 2709 02:41:37,320 --> 02:41:41,700 to tell us and parents don't understand. So we cut off her 2710 02:41:41,700 --> 02:41:44,580 electronics for summer told her never talked to the group group 2711 02:41:44,580 --> 02:41:47,790 again. I told her I love her either way, but it was too soon 2712 02:41:47,790 --> 02:41:50,490 for her to know who she would fall in love with as she was 2713 02:41:50,490 --> 02:41:54,990 just starting puberty. Today. She falls into tears when it 2714 02:41:54,990 --> 02:41:58,140 rarely comes up and says she wanted to believe it. Since she 2715 02:41:58,140 --> 02:42:01,800 was getting so much attention and support from that group. She 2716 02:42:01,800 --> 02:42:04,980 recently learned how to sew and as making anime style dresses 2717 02:42:04,980 --> 02:42:07,950 for herself and getting phone numbers from boys at home school 2718 02:42:07,950 --> 02:42:11,550 dances so I'm hopeful she will find her true self. No agenda 2719 02:42:11,550 --> 02:42:16,710 show is nailing it per usual. Thanks for your courage. And so 2720 02:42:16,710 --> 02:42:21,570 with all this so called anti trans legislation, Rachel Maddow 2721 02:42:21,570 --> 02:42:27,030 is a shining example of exactly what you should not be doing 2722 02:42:27,060 --> 02:42:31,710 when there's division over and I want to make this clear. We 2723 02:42:31,710 --> 02:42:36,000 should use the word children and not kids. Someone Someone made a 2724 02:42:36,000 --> 02:42:41,490 point about this. That kids is you know, it's it kind of 2725 02:42:41,490 --> 02:42:46,080 diminishes what they are. It's slang you know, Kid young goat, 2726 02:42:46,560 --> 02:42:50,100 you know young person. Children call them children and, and I 2727 02:42:50,100 --> 02:42:53,040 also have you heard people call their children Ketos 2728 02:42:53,790 --> 02:42:56,490 John C Dvorak: Yeah, a JC and Jesse use this term. 2729 02:42:56,520 --> 02:42:58,410 Adam Curry: I do not like it all the time. 2730 02:42:58,440 --> 02:43:00,840 John C Dvorak: I always call him out on I said, kiddo. 2731 02:43:01,890 --> 02:43:05,310 Adam Curry: I don't like what's kiddo. I don't like it. It's 2732 02:43:05,310 --> 02:43:07,710 like it's your child. 2733 02:43:08,040 --> 02:43:10,650 John C Dvorak: Very common. You hear it? I see you see a lot of 2734 02:43:10,650 --> 02:43:16,830 videos to kiddos it's Milena Lea bowler Millennials use it a lot. 2735 02:43:17,130 --> 02:43:20,130 Yeah, I got my kiddo here. 2736 02:43:20,160 --> 02:43:22,320 Adam Curry: I can't understand what what is it that why does 2737 02:43:22,320 --> 02:43:25,290 that hit me deep in my soul that I hate it when they do that. 2738 02:43:25,290 --> 02:43:26,070 What is that? I don't 2739 02:43:26,070 --> 02:43:28,470 John C Dvorak: know. I have no idea which way is hears you it 2740 02:43:28,470 --> 02:43:30,570 just bugs me because I don't like the sound of it. Yeah, 2741 02:43:30,600 --> 02:43:30,960 there you go. I 2742 02:43:30,960 --> 02:43:32,940 Adam Curry: don't like the sound of it. Perfect. Just don't like 2743 02:43:32,940 --> 02:43:35,970 it. Sounds like a breakfast cereal. kiddos. Hey, have you 2744 02:43:35,970 --> 02:43:41,790 kiddos here's Rachel Maddow ad talking about people who want to 2745 02:43:42,270 --> 02:43:45,930 put legislation to place like Florida that will inform 2746 02:43:45,930 --> 02:43:50,610 children if they if they learn at school. Or at least they 2747 02:43:50,610 --> 02:43:53,070 should have the option but I mean come on you should be held 2748 02:43:53,070 --> 02:43:56,850 informing parents if you're going to be offering some kind 2749 02:43:56,850 --> 02:44:00,330 of sex change route with a therapist and parents need to 2750 02:44:00,330 --> 02:44:03,090 know what what are you then you're a Nazi? 2751 02:44:03,120 --> 02:44:06,720 Unknown: If you are not excited five the little Nazis blooming 2752 02:44:06,720 --> 02:44:09,600 like stink weed everywhere these days it might give you some 2753 02:44:09,600 --> 02:44:13,470 pause right if you realize that the reason that these Nazis keep 2754 02:44:13,470 --> 02:44:16,020 turning out the reason these Nazis are out there in the 2755 02:44:16,020 --> 02:44:17,910 streets and on the street corners and in these public 2756 02:44:17,910 --> 02:44:21,720 parks. The reason they keep doing this stuff is that they're 2757 02:44:21,720 --> 02:44:25,050 cheering on what you've been doing in your day job that might 2758 02:44:25,050 --> 02:44:28,140 give you pause right if you started to notice what all these 2759 02:44:28,140 --> 02:44:30,840 Nazis were doing and realize that what they were doing was 2760 02:44:30,840 --> 02:44:31,890 pulling on your side. 2761 02:44:33,180 --> 02:44:35,220 John C Dvorak: So there's a National Socialist Party in the 2762 02:44:35,220 --> 02:44:39,300 United States Nazi Party and Nazis were a party. There was a 2763 02:44:39,300 --> 02:44:43,110 political party that was she might be referring to are 2764 02:44:43,110 --> 02:44:44,340 fascists 2765 02:44:44,370 --> 02:44:47,670 Adam Curry: now she's talking about moms for liberty. Oh, 2766 02:44:47,670 --> 02:44:48,030 they're 2767 02:44:48,180 --> 02:44:49,410 John C Dvorak: literally Nazis. 2768 02:44:49,440 --> 02:44:52,620 Adam Curry: Now. Moms for liberty are moms who don't want 2769 02:44:52,620 --> 02:44:54,780 certain books and for in school. 2770 02:44:56,220 --> 02:44:58,410 John C Dvorak: That probably could for good reason is my 2771 02:44:58,410 --> 02:44:58,950 guess. 2772 02:44:58,980 --> 02:45:01,710 Adam Curry: Yeah, well, then you because you're now book burning 2773 02:45:01,710 --> 02:45:04,110 even though there's no books being burned, therefore you are 2774 02:45:04,110 --> 02:45:09,090 a Nazi. You see, that's that's how these people think, is the 2775 02:45:09,180 --> 02:45:12,210 this, by the way shows me that Rachel Maddow has a mental 2776 02:45:12,660 --> 02:45:15,000 issue. This is Mental 2777 02:45:15,089 --> 02:45:17,909 Unknown: that might give you pause right? If you started to 2778 02:45:17,909 --> 02:45:20,219 notice when all these Nazis were doing and realize that what they 2779 02:45:20,219 --> 02:45:25,199 were doing was pulling for your side. In Ohio, for example, it 2780 02:45:25,199 --> 02:45:29,129 might give you pause if you were an Ohio Republican, and you've 2781 02:45:29,129 --> 02:45:32,249 been working on legislation to attack queer people and trans 2782 02:45:32,249 --> 02:45:34,409 people, while at the same time repeat what 2783 02:45:34,410 --> 02:45:37,950 Adam Curry: legislation attacks queer people and what are queer 2784 02:45:37,950 --> 02:45:38,670 people, you've been 2785 02:45:38,670 --> 02:45:41,640 Unknown: working on legislation to attack queer people and trans 2786 02:45:41,640 --> 02:45:44,970 people, while at the same time repeatedly? You know, these guys 2787 02:45:44,970 --> 02:45:47,850 are the crowds who are turning out to bolster that message to 2788 02:45:47,850 --> 02:45:50,430 make sure that the harassment and intimidation of queer and 2789 02:45:50,430 --> 02:45:53,940 trans people has not just the imprimatur of state law but also 2790 02:45:53,940 --> 02:45:55,110 a Nazi flare 2791 02:45:55,379 --> 02:46:02,819 Adam Curry: Nazi flare mentally ill seriously mentally ill 2792 02:46:05,460 --> 02:46:08,460 John C Dvorak: do i On the topic of mentally ill that's a segue 2793 02:46:08,460 --> 02:46:10,260 for me to play a couple of tick tock clip 2794 02:46:10,289 --> 02:46:14,249 Adam Curry: Yeah, you're talking everybody tock tock tick tock 2795 02:46:17,339 --> 02:46:20,219 tick tock. It is great way to end at the end of the day. 2796 02:46:20,550 --> 02:46:22,710 John C Dvorak: Let's go with this one. This is the bitch 2797 02:46:22,710 --> 02:46:23,100 clip. 2798 02:46:24,750 --> 02:46:27,090 Unknown: Hi, I just want to say that I don't use they them 2799 02:46:27,090 --> 02:46:31,500 pronouns you use they them pronouns for me. I also am not a 2800 02:46:31,500 --> 02:46:35,400 day and I'm not of them. And I'm not a day them My pronouns are 2801 02:46:35,400 --> 02:46:38,760 they them? If you need a noun to use for me, just call me a 2802 02:46:38,760 --> 02:46:39,300 bitch. 2803 02:46:41,220 --> 02:46:44,280 Adam Curry: Okay, that's not too bad. I like that. 2804 02:46:44,460 --> 02:46:45,210 John C Dvorak: Good with that. 2805 02:46:46,050 --> 02:46:46,800 Adam Curry: No problem. 2806 02:46:46,980 --> 02:46:50,610 John C Dvorak: Deal. Yeah, the other one was not about this 2807 02:46:50,610 --> 02:46:55,080 topic anymore. The brand's topic it is about the other topic, 2808 02:46:55,080 --> 02:46:58,020 which we didn't touch on today, which is white supremacy. 2809 02:46:58,170 --> 02:47:03,270 Adam Curry: Wow, that's so out. Oh, no. Yeah, white supremacy is 2810 02:47:03,270 --> 02:47:06,150 Oh, that's yesterday's news. It's like, like racist, you 2811 02:47:06,150 --> 02:47:09,330 know, just no more black lives matter. It's all anti trans 2812 02:47:09,390 --> 02:47:10,350 Nazi. But 2813 02:47:10,650 --> 02:47:12,330 John C Dvorak: well, we'll get back to the trans but I would 2814 02:47:12,330 --> 02:47:15,120 this might as well play this is that Did you know three meals a 2815 02:47:15,120 --> 02:47:17,580 day as a reflection of white supremacy? 2816 02:47:17,610 --> 02:47:19,560 Adam Curry: No, no doubt, as long as there's wonderbread. Of 2817 02:47:19,560 --> 02:47:21,750 course bag dinner. Yes. 2818 02:47:22,619 --> 02:47:24,719 John C Dvorak: So what we have here, somebody first comes on 2819 02:47:24,719 --> 02:47:27,179 and says some of these other one is transitioning to another 2820 02:47:27,179 --> 02:47:29,519 woman who is so happy that this was being said 2821 02:47:31,020 --> 02:47:33,420 Unknown: that the three meals a day thing breakfast, lunch, and 2822 02:47:33,420 --> 02:47:35,580 dinner is from colonialism. 2823 02:47:36,090 --> 02:47:41,610 I've been waiting for this day, continuously. If you don't know 2824 02:47:41,610 --> 02:47:44,220 me, please check on my page. I talk a lot about diet culture 2825 02:47:44,220 --> 02:47:49,800 and its roots in white supremacy, racism and just white 2826 02:47:49,800 --> 02:47:51,750 missing the food system as a whole. And this person really 2827 02:47:51,750 --> 02:47:54,090 articulated it well. And also thank you for sharing this book. 2828 02:47:54,690 --> 02:47:57,420 What is so amazing about that book, and also what's being 2829 02:47:57,420 --> 02:48:01,710 discussed in that video is it really articulates how whiteness 2830 02:48:01,830 --> 02:48:05,670 has infiltrated the way that we view and address our hunger 2831 02:48:05,670 --> 02:48:10,170 cues. Because we are trying to adhere to very strict schedules 2832 02:48:10,230 --> 02:48:13,950 that our bodies didn't, you know, they were not created to 2833 02:48:14,010 --> 02:48:16,710 immediately adhere to, like you don't come out the womb being 2834 02:48:16,710 --> 02:48:19,080 like I will only eat breakfast lunch and dinner society tells 2835 02:48:19,080 --> 02:48:21,750 you only eat breakfast, lunch and dinner. And like think about 2836 02:48:21,750 --> 02:48:24,150 how many times people don't eat after dinner even though they're 2837 02:48:24,150 --> 02:48:25,890 still hungry because it's like well, I can't eat after dinner 2838 02:48:25,890 --> 02:48:28,290 that'd be bad. Check out some of my videos on this. 2839 02:48:29,340 --> 02:48:32,070 John C Dvorak: But What's she talking about? 2840 02:48:32,100 --> 02:48:34,800 Adam Curry: Well, it's a construct you know, everything 2841 02:48:34,800 --> 02:48:37,980 is money is a construct sexuality and gender as a 2842 02:48:37,980 --> 02:48:42,180 construct these people are they're on drugs. They're on the 2843 02:48:42,180 --> 02:48:48,150 wrong bad drugs pharma drugs, this is nuts that's fine. That's 2844 02:48:48,150 --> 02:48:51,000 what tick tock is good for I love that I'm happy for people 2845 02:48:51,960 --> 02:48:54,180 John C Dvorak: well, let's go to Real News and play this because 2846 02:48:54,180 --> 02:48:57,840 I want to get this out of here which is the end of gas in NYC 2847 02:49:00,240 --> 02:49:05,610 Adam Curry: the age I was Yeah, I was the what? The end 2848 02:49:05,640 --> 02:49:07,350 John C Dvorak: of gas Oh, the end of gas. I 2849 02:49:07,350 --> 02:49:09,180 Unknown: got it. New York has passed the country's first 2850 02:49:09,180 --> 02:49:13,050 statewide ban on using natural gas in most new buildings, and 2851 02:49:13,050 --> 02:49:15,840 Buress Jeff Brady reports. The state joins a growing trend 2852 02:49:15,840 --> 02:49:18,690 mostly among cities to ban new gas hookups to meet climate 2853 02:49:18,690 --> 02:49:19,380 change goals. 2854 02:49:19,440 --> 02:49:22,560 The New York statewide ban is focused on reducing climate 2855 02:49:22,560 --> 02:49:26,190 warming emissions from buildings starting in 2026. Most new 2856 02:49:26,190 --> 02:49:29,880 buildings under seven storeys will have to use electricity for 2857 02:49:29,880 --> 02:49:33,840 energy needs such as space and water heating and cooking. New 2858 02:49:33,840 --> 02:49:36,090 York Governor Kathy hookless says commercial kitchens are 2859 02:49:36,090 --> 02:49:39,630 exempt from the requirement and she told Fox five New York 2860 02:49:39,660 --> 02:49:43,350 existing buildings are exempt but for new construction, 2861 02:49:43,380 --> 02:49:47,490 why not put in what's kind of the long term less expensive for 2862 02:49:47,490 --> 02:49:50,370 you and then and for your kids futures? 2863 02:49:50,700 --> 02:49:52,410 Adam Curry: Well, I wish I had known you're gonna play this 2864 02:49:52,410 --> 02:49:55,770 because then I would have played my supercut just before this 2865 02:49:55,830 --> 02:49:59,370 because this gas stoves replacing you're being kicked 2866 02:49:59,370 --> 02:50:02,730 out of your home Boom. That was a conspiracy theory. 2867 02:50:02,760 --> 02:50:05,820 Unknown: You might think that the US government is coming for 2868 02:50:05,820 --> 02:50:09,870 your gas stove. That is a new and absolutely ridiculous one 2869 02:50:09,870 --> 02:50:12,360 that comes on Fox News and Republicans are up in arms 2870 02:50:12,360 --> 02:50:15,960 because they say the government is coming to take your stoves 2871 02:50:15,990 --> 02:50:17,760 what Republicans are saying is 2872 02:50:18,060 --> 02:50:21,390 dammit they're gonna take your gas though GOP have been stoking 2873 02:50:21,390 --> 02:50:24,930 ridiculous new freakout about gas stoves. No one is taking 2874 02:50:24,930 --> 02:50:25,650 your gas stove. 2875 02:50:25,680 --> 02:50:28,440 It's a right wing freakout over the use of gas stoves 2876 02:50:28,530 --> 02:50:31,950 is maybe the latest in a long series of made up culture war 2877 02:50:31,950 --> 02:50:35,880 battles, designed to enrage and rile up their right wing and 2878 02:50:35,880 --> 02:50:36,930 paranoid base, 2879 02:50:36,960 --> 02:50:39,750 publicans are prone to conspiracy theories, whether 2880 02:50:39,750 --> 02:50:43,560 it's, you know, the Kooky like JFK, juniors coming back from 2881 02:50:43,560 --> 02:50:48,330 the dead to run with Trump, or the sort of duplicitous like 2882 02:50:48,990 --> 02:50:51,270 this administration's coming to take away your guests, those 2883 02:50:51,360 --> 02:50:53,670 Republicans have turned a government warning about your 2884 02:50:53,670 --> 02:50:57,300 health into a lie about Democrats trying to take your 2885 02:50:57,300 --> 02:51:01,260 stoves she gets some bureaucrat saying something that has no 2886 02:51:01,260 --> 02:51:06,090 power and then suddenly, you have Ron DeSantis. So I'm going 2887 02:51:06,090 --> 02:51:10,440 to protect your guests tell you about gas stoves gas, it's so 2888 02:51:10,440 --> 02:51:14,640 stupid people were tweeting me this weekend that Rhonda Santas 2889 02:51:14,640 --> 02:51:19,530 is going to protect my gas stove. So but I don't seem to be 2890 02:51:19,530 --> 02:51:24,870 but the sheer stupidity of it and if it were just bloggers, 2891 02:51:24,870 --> 02:51:27,210 that would be one thing, but when you have Kevin McCarthy 2892 02:51:27,210 --> 02:51:31,410 going out, and other people talking about gas stoves, 2893 02:51:31,500 --> 02:51:35,160 because they keep getting dumber and dumber, you know, the 2894 02:51:35,160 --> 02:51:42,330 Republican Party has become addicted to this culture of lies 2895 02:51:42,330 --> 02:51:45,330 and conspiracy theories that they have fomented, right and so 2896 02:51:45,510 --> 02:51:49,830 they know that there is a substantial number of people in 2897 02:51:49,830 --> 02:51:53,400 the country, in their party, who they can convince that this is 2898 02:51:53,400 --> 02:51:58,530 true, and that it will enrage those people. This is the this 2899 02:51:58,530 --> 02:52:01,650 is like the economy of the culture of conspiracy theories, 2900 02:52:01,650 --> 02:52:06,510 right. I'm certain you and I will be able to drive through 2901 02:52:06,540 --> 02:52:09,870 parts of the country 10 years from now, and people will be 2902 02:52:09,870 --> 02:52:12,120 saying Do you remember back when Joe Biden was in office and they 2903 02:52:12,120 --> 02:52:14,070 tried to take away our guests stoves? 2904 02:52:15,060 --> 02:52:16,980 Adam Curry: I think that kind of sums up the media. 2905 02:52:18,150 --> 02:52:20,910 John C Dvorak: Wow, break clip and then I would follow 2906 02:52:20,910 --> 02:52:21,360 Adam Curry: that I knew 2907 02:52:21,960 --> 02:52:24,990 John C Dvorak: within that clip that one woman said oh under 2908 02:52:24,990 --> 02:52:29,100 conspiracy theories think they are JFQ which is JFK. Okay. 2909 02:52:29,100 --> 02:52:32,730 Yeah, Jr, Jr. But But here's JFK Jr. 2910 02:52:33,510 --> 02:52:36,600 Adam Curry: here's the here's the 32nd pay off, which is kind 2911 02:52:36,600 --> 02:52:37,710 of the same as what you just played 2912 02:52:37,740 --> 02:52:40,980 Unknown: New York City is moving to snuffed out gassed of New 2913 02:52:40,980 --> 02:52:44,310 York becoming the first state to ban natural gas and other fossil 2914 02:52:44,310 --> 02:52:47,670 fuels and most new buildings including gas stoves. The new 2915 02:52:47,670 --> 02:52:50,790 law requires all electric heating and cooking in new 2916 02:52:50,790 --> 02:52:54,360 building shorter than seven storeys by 2027 or Cathy Hoko. 2917 02:52:54,360 --> 02:52:57,840 And the democratic control state legislature approved a bill on 2918 02:52:57,840 --> 02:53:01,230 Tuesday prohibiting the use of fossil fuels for heating and 2919 02:53:01,230 --> 02:53:05,280 cooking. The law is the first statewide ban in the nation and 2920 02:53:05,280 --> 02:53:09,420 goes into effect in 2026 for buildings under seven storeys. 2921 02:53:09,750 --> 02:53:12,900 Adam Curry: Don't you just love it? That to me, that is the 2922 02:53:12,900 --> 02:53:17,070 epitome of what would cable news it's not even all cable. There's 2923 02:53:17,070 --> 02:53:22,470 so much mainstream Network News has become political bullshit. 2924 02:53:23,790 --> 02:53:27,780 And we have to sit here and it's so bad that isn't the end of the 2925 02:53:27,780 --> 02:53:31,980 show. We got to we got to throw this in there. Unbelievable. I'm 2926 02:53:31,980 --> 02:53:36,060 gonna add one more to it. Because I'm delighted to see 2927 02:53:36,090 --> 02:53:40,110 this is part of woke ism which is trans Maoism which is 2928 02:53:40,140 --> 02:53:44,790 communism which is Marxism. They set us up start to destroy the 2929 02:53:44,790 --> 02:53:47,490 American family black families first get the men out of the 2930 02:53:47,490 --> 02:53:52,080 home. The baby mama culture Good job everybody. Good job 2931 02:53:52,080 --> 02:53:55,560 Kardashians to have done that now. Now we've got a ruin 2932 02:53:55,560 --> 02:53:59,910 everyone else ruin your children, your kiddos. But thank 2933 02:53:59,910 --> 02:54:03,870 goodness, when it comes to beer Americans just that's where we 2934 02:54:03,870 --> 02:54:08,490 draw the line for some reason. Especially Bud Light. They got a 2935 02:54:08,520 --> 02:54:12,480 dude named Ben here. There are some consequences. I'm a network 2936 02:54:12,480 --> 02:54:16,920 engineer at redacted and due support for redacted. I got a 2937 02:54:16,920 --> 02:54:20,640 ticket for a major outage from Bud Light. I sent them chasing 2938 02:54:20,640 --> 02:54:25,260 their tails. Oops. And then this unfortunate news. 2939 02:54:25,859 --> 02:54:28,049 Unknown: This is your morning rundown. I'm Kyle Martin. Today 2940 02:54:28,049 --> 02:54:31,889 is Friday. It's May 5 2023. And here's what's happening right 2941 02:54:31,889 --> 02:54:35,459 now. Several gay bars in Chicago announced they will stop selling 2942 02:54:35,459 --> 02:54:38,939 Anheuser Busch products. This is in response to how the company 2943 02:54:38,939 --> 02:54:42,089 is handling backlash from a Bud Light campaign with a 2944 02:54:42,089 --> 02:54:46,079 transgender influencer. Some conservatives began boycotting 2945 02:54:46,079 --> 02:54:48,869 the brand a month ago When Dylan Mulvaney created a sponsored 2946 02:54:48,869 --> 02:54:51,779 post promoting Bud Light. The company released a statement 2947 02:54:51,779 --> 02:54:55,319 that made no direct mention of the LGBTQ community and the 2948 02:54:55,319 --> 02:54:58,409 marketing executives behind the campaign with Mulvaney were put 2949 02:54:58,409 --> 02:55:00,959 on leave then yesterday. made the Belgian American 2950 02:55:00,959 --> 02:55:04,049 conglomerates CEO minimize the company's involvement in the 2951 02:55:04,049 --> 02:55:06,959 sponsored posts with the influencer, saying, quote, it 2952 02:55:06,959 --> 02:55:10,379 wasn't a campaign. In response to that some of Chicago's 2953 02:55:10,379 --> 02:55:13,919 largest gay bars now say they will no longer sell Anheuser 2954 02:55:13,919 --> 02:55:18,299 Busch products. Both sidetrack in North Halstead as well as to 2955 02:55:18,299 --> 02:55:21,479 Bear's Hospitality Group which operates several establishments 2956 02:55:21,479 --> 02:55:24,389 in Uptown say they will stop selling any beer made by the 2957 02:55:24,389 --> 02:55:26,549 company including the local brand, 2958 02:55:26,700 --> 02:55:30,600 Adam Curry: goose, Goose River, I think it is. So they so this 2959 02:55:30,600 --> 02:55:35,700 will go down as this will be marketing 101 crisis management 2960 02:55:35,700 --> 02:55:42,090 101 what a what a huge fiasco not only did you alienate your 2961 02:55:42,090 --> 02:55:46,620 core user of your product, but you alienated the people you 2962 02:55:46,620 --> 02:55:47,850 were pandering to. 2963 02:55:48,600 --> 02:55:52,020 John C Dvorak: This is double whammy. It's a it's a classic It 2964 02:55:52,020 --> 02:55:56,460 Adam Curry: is so beautiful to see this and this will end the 2965 02:55:56,490 --> 02:56:01,380 influenza gig this is going to end marketing managers are 2966 02:56:01,380 --> 02:56:06,810 peeing their pants right now all this can really go wrong there 2967 02:56:06,810 --> 02:56:11,100 and this will in part take down the importance of social social 2968 02:56:11,100 --> 02:56:13,440 media this is a this is a seminal 2969 02:56:13,440 --> 02:56:16,170 John C Dvorak: moment in optimist about stuff like that. 2970 02:56:16,200 --> 02:56:17,130 Yes, and I'm gonna 2971 02:56:17,130 --> 02:56:22,500 Adam Curry: go stroke my light phone I am an optimist I am an 2972 02:56:22,500 --> 02:56:27,420 optimist That's right. You're an I'm an optimist and you're don't 2973 02:56:27,420 --> 02:56:28,320 say realist. 2974 02:56:30,300 --> 02:56:31,860 John C Dvorak: I'm a don't say realist. 2975 02:56:35,100 --> 02:56:38,820 Adam Curry: Hi, everybody. Thank you very much for checking us 2976 02:56:38,820 --> 02:56:42,150 out. Once again, great news. You do not want to leave the troll 2977 02:56:42,150 --> 02:56:45,720 room you want to stay on because up next we have Nick the rat 2978 02:56:45,720 --> 02:56:51,210 with the interview with the one and only Mimi Dvorak with her 2979 02:56:51,210 --> 02:56:55,290 too many eggs book, too many eggs.com Haven't even promoted 2980 02:56:55,290 --> 02:56:58,830 it yet those show to make sure make sure you stay tuned for 2981 02:56:58,830 --> 02:57:03,150 that end of show mixes from DS last Omega Man and Phantom 2982 02:57:03,150 --> 02:57:05,760 Ville. We appreciate that. And coming to you from the heart of 2983 02:57:05,760 --> 02:57:08,760 the Texas hill country here in FEMA Region number six in the 2984 02:57:08,760 --> 02:57:11,070 morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry 2985 02:57:11,100 --> 02:57:14,040 John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain 2986 02:57:14,040 --> 02:57:15,240 I'm John C. Dvorak. 2987 02:57:15,480 --> 02:57:18,240 Adam Curry: Come back with us. Come back to us. Come see us 2988 02:57:18,240 --> 02:57:22,620 again, y'all. On Thursday, with another episode of your best 2989 02:57:22,620 --> 02:57:25,980 podcast in the universe. Please remember us we can use the help 2990 02:57:25,980 --> 02:57:30,270 of devora.org/na. Until then, adios mo 2991 02:57:41,070 --> 02:57:41,640 Unknown: so if I 2992 02:57:41,640 --> 02:57:45,120 seem distracted right now, I am completely distracted by the 2993 02:57:45,120 --> 02:57:47,970 ramifications of this. I mean, this is a big deal. 2994 02:57:49,200 --> 02:57:51,540 Adam Curry: That's about say he Nachi you're part of the 2995 02:57:51,540 --> 02:57:55,800 problem. Now. This is not even about the pronouns pronouns is 2996 02:57:55,800 --> 02:58:00,330 what confused parents to start with. Okay, so just stay with 2997 02:58:00,330 --> 02:58:03,510 the story and don't get distracted don't get distracted 2998 02:58:04,410 --> 02:58:13,020 Unknown: by his pulao in Afghanistan and scrolling, but 2999 02:58:13,020 --> 02:58:17,700 no doomsday plan by quitting 3000 02:58:19,980 --> 02:58:20,850 Taliban 3001 02:58:27,870 --> 02:58:31,410 Bochy he's the latest low level release 20 self want to blow the 3002 02:58:31,410 --> 02:58:34,860 whistle demonize and put to the side I'm blessing now with this. 3003 02:58:35,340 --> 02:58:40,830 We can Pentagon Papers you're in a private discord chat room when 3004 02:58:40,830 --> 02:58:43,830 it gets overwhelming I just think about Jordan Peterson 3005 02:58:43,830 --> 02:58:48,210 saying clean your clean your room exposing super sensitive 3006 02:58:48,210 --> 02:58:52,050 info is it right Whitney waves unlimited hangout done in plain 3007 02:58:52,050 --> 02:58:55,800 sight over in the corner of the internet? Is it a square never 3008 02:58:55,800 --> 02:58:59,340 be too careful like the Silk Road I mean and Ross all brushes 3009 02:58:59,369 --> 02:59:02,429 John C Dvorak: Wait, just I'm gonna interrupt this moment 3010 02:59:02,459 --> 02:59:04,409 because of that pronoun thing Trans 3011 02:59:04,410 --> 02:59:11,370 Unknown: Day of violence and the restraint that John Deval Wragge 3012 02:59:11,400 --> 02:59:15,990 calling bull crap on belling cat this whole thing is bullcrap 3013 02:59:16,050 --> 02:59:25,410 influencers on Instagram algorithms I mean it's all a 3014 02:59:25,740 --> 02:59:31,200 sham and then influences look into the camera with Sinead and 3015 02:59:31,200 --> 02:59:34,650 grins Nikkei and by Lena and rifle putting email campaign ads 3016 02:59:34,650 --> 02:59:38,820 again with this Dylan movie clown targeting confused 3017 02:59:38,820 --> 02:59:42,960 children. Buttons University kids nowadays are Grubin fold 3018 02:59:42,960 --> 02:59:47,520 they what Robin? Robin for the grades can debate a different 3019 02:59:47,520 --> 02:59:51,210 viewpoint without being sent into a rage. Just relax the 3020 02:59:51,210 --> 02:59:54,810 smoking joints or when the Fed not looking to fit and interrupt 3021 02:59:54,810 --> 02:59:57,900 the speakers on the stage and they can behave like the 3022 02:59:58,530 --> 03:00:02,640 spitting in the face of your customer base online has been in 3023 03:00:02,640 --> 03:00:06,600 decline for a really really long time. They Rick Adams in the New 3024 03:00:06,600 --> 03:00:10,110 York Robocop do what transmittable with society is 3025 03:00:19,350 --> 03:00:25,080 how old it is say SpaceX was building rockets I sure hope you 3026 03:00:25,080 --> 03:00:30,120 on musk and his crew know what you're doing if not I got my 3027 03:00:30,210 --> 03:00:36,390 button strapped to 1 million tons of TNT This is your captain 3028 03:00:36,390 --> 03:00:39,150 speaking we will get about two to two one liter 3029 03:00:40,170 --> 03:00:41,730 clear whether it's been today 3030 03:00:42,990 --> 03:00:50,430 buckle and enjoy the trip you were standing there alone the 3031 03:00:50,430 --> 03:00:55,650 ship waiting all systems are go they rip posted aren't nobody 3032 03:00:55,650 --> 03:01:00,300 was convinced but the computer said it had the evidence. No 3033 03:01:00,300 --> 03:01:09,180 need to the countdown stop I was watching in a trance my crew was 3034 03:01:09,180 --> 03:01:13,920 certain nothing was left to chance it's all working. It was 3035 03:01:13,920 --> 03:01:19,440 trying to relax in the capsule. Hey send me up a martini chokes 3036 03:01:19,440 --> 03:01:25,590 me for three 3037 03:01:35,640 --> 03:01:44,520 was gone please have some money 3038 03:01:54,240 --> 03:02:00,660 last somebody's cut corners over here. Somebody tweets we 3039 03:02:05,700 --> 03:02:11,040 send another son I want to get home 3040 03:02:18,060 --> 03:02:26,430 Adam Curry: dads right. Tick tock tick tock tick tock tick 3041 03:02:26,430 --> 03:02:36,210 tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock. 3042 03:02:46,980 --> 03:02:47,610 Unknown: Right 3043 03:03:08,250 --> 03:03:09,000 Tick Tock 3044 03:03:17,040 --> 03:03:20,730 mopho.org/n 3045 03:03:20,790 --> 03:03:24,300 A and remember Please mind the gap