John C. Dvorak: was Sunday.
Unknown: Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
Adam Curry: Thursday, July 9 2020. This is your award
winning nation media assassination episode 158. This
is no agenda. Fighting another lockdown and broadcasting live
from opportunity's own 33 Here in the frontier of Austin, Texas
capital of the drone stars thing in the morning, everybody. I'm
Adam curry,
John C. Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where
everybody's wearing a mask. And everybody's going to work. It
looks like it to me. I'm John C. Dvorak. Raglan Buzzkill.
Adam Curry: You guys are lucky.
John C. Dvorak: The traffic jams are what they have been
historically
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, no, it's I think everything's just kind of
open but you guys don't have what's going on here.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, we do. We got him. Governor thinks we do.
He's trying to keep up with the Joneses.
Adam Curry: Oh man, well, we have a we have a mayor and city
council. You remember I told you on Sunday that they were you
know what was the Sunday of the day before they were considering
either everybody mandatory mask which happened on show day or a
35 day lockdown. And then a lessons learned program if you
remember that lessons learned lessons lessons learned. Well
today, since of course our cases case cases have gone up so
significantly to be discussed in a moment. Today, city councilors
meeting and all is on the table. I think we're going for another
lockdown 35 days here's the latest from this morning hey the
Austin
Unknown: City Council will consider some bolt action to
slow the spread of COVID-19 Oh gonna be a tough sell for can do
is live at City Hall. A friend Austin's business community will
have to be on board to make this happen.
Yeah, and before Coronavirus came along a lot of people by
Adam Curry: the way, this guy this Yes, his mess is his
mascot. For the end of the report. Clearly someone who went
to take off the mask. Your knee will
Unknown: have to be on board to make this happen.
Yeah, and before Coronavirus came along a lot of people will
just say some more crazy stuff from the Austin City Council.
But when you see poor man's
Adam Curry: everything in the podcast like this, everybody has
no agenda. Hey Dan, how you doing everything. This is where
we are
Unknown: today. Something doesn't have to be that
daunting.
Adam Curry: And I have to point out he's standing at night in
the middle of an empty square right and find that City Hall,
which is a big, big square and there's no one there. And he's
standing by himself with his mask on sounding like a
Unknown: cute down. This was soaring Coronavirus on the
city's color coded COVID risk chart. We are now in the red
area, which will trigger new restrictions to slow the spread
of the virus. Today, council members we'll hear from experts
to help them decide what to do next.
And they're going to tell us whether we're screaming into it
or not and what the indicated action is. But it is of concern
now that we're above 70. Now it's 75. But we need to figure
out what those trajectories are.
And the experts will also explain a proposal to shut down
the city voluntarily for 35 days. Mayor Adler is among those
who believes that it'll allow the Coronavirus to subside
enough that we will be able to reopen our schools for fall also
on the agenda an ordinance that would declare businesses a
nuisance if they don't take more action to prevent the corona 19
spread, the business requirements would go beyond
enforcing mask use, they would have to disinfect twice a day
post information signs and limit groups to 10 or less, among
other things, the violators and declared would be declared a
nuisance. And if they did not fulfill these requirements that
they would face a civil suit filed by the city attorney.
Business owners may not like these added regulations on their
business, but apparently it has support at the top.
Adam Curry: Do support at the top and we're going going into
shutdown I can see. I can see what
John C. Dvorak: I'm saying. What is what's the top
Adam Curry: that's it's got to be the mayor, what else are they
talking about? I mean, what is a top business?
John C. Dvorak: proposal so it had to support at the top?
Adam Curry: No, no, no, it's not the mayor's proposal. It's that
one guy some medical guy who comes on the city council
meeting for 10 minutes the last time he said here's your
options. Everybody mask or 35 Lock day lockdown followed by
lessons learned. I think they're too happy about giving us the
lessons learned. Like we're gonna get these fuckers at Hey,
one of our friends Dale he had to close his bite. He's closes
bar for good now because the bars had to close again. In
Texas, he's done. He's out of business. He's had
John C. Dvorak: to have two restaurants famous and otherwise
in San Francisco are going to be gone. There's no way they can
Adam Curry: be. So imagine if you got that double tap, like
we're about to witness where they close you down against the
the bars are very screwed. But restaurants if they close down,
which is what will happen, and that will also mean retail
closes. Are we going to get unemployment again? Is that
John C. Dvorak: what kind of you would give me one example of
retail closing? Now if the 35 day lockdown example just give
me one example. What a what is retail store? How would you
define? Just tell me a retail store that
Adam Curry: would be closing the entire mall?
John C. Dvorak: And what kind of stores you're in? I need a store
not not an area. Just give me one example one store. clothing
stores. Wait, wait, stop. That makes no sense. Walmart's open,
isn't it? I know. I can go buy clothes at Walmart. No, no, no,
no, no, no. So why are they closing the other stores that
sell the same thing Walmart sells well.
Adam Curry: I love that you play this game with me. But obviously
because they're assholes and and full of crap. And this is in
this can only navy. This is just pure politics. Again, I think
there's something else going on, though. because Texas is being
targeted. And I think we're about to enter phase three.
John C. Dvorak: Republican governor. Yes. Oh, yeah. No, but
also targeting Florida. Hold on. What's What's the commonality
that oh,
Unknown: yes
Adam Curry: or no, not just that. Arizona? No, they're
targeting states that quote unquote, open too soon. We
didn't do it right. Of course, we didn't do it. Right.
Unfortunately, with the increased testing, and we've
gone through this many times, why people are being tested
retails open, young people are getting tested people, young
people were even faking the numbers, or faking their
symptoms just to get tested because they want to get tested.
We're also I learned doing pool testing exists, specifically in
Austin. And this is how that works. Let's say we had a meet
up and the meet up there were 10 people. And someone says, oh,
man, I don't feel so good. I'm sick. The pool testing. And it's
easier to do this at retail, obviously, but a meet up would
work. They test one person. I'm sorry, they, yes, they test one
person. And if that comes out positive, then all of those
people have to be tested. But essentially at that moment, you
got it. They're counted as a positive case. So these numbers
are
John C. Dvorak: I mean, they're sketchy. It's not.
Adam Curry: It's beyond sketchy. But then what it does, when you
have this many tests, and by the way, a case is not sick. And of
course, I've heard of many young people who have who were
positive, and they were back on their feet in two days, kind of
like I know, it's unpopular to say it but kind of like the flu.
So what does this do? Is this shows us that the infection rate
is much higher. I don't think it's a question of aid spreading
right now the infection rate was already quite high. We're
testing we're finding it out, which subsequently lowers the
death rate. But this is an unacceptable happiness, we
cannot be happy that the death rate has declined. No, we
Unknown: cannot let me ask you to look at these two images
because we're about to talk about the worldview question. I
think this is a I'm sorry,
Adam Curry: big takes to the frog clip
Unknown: governors across the country in some of these super
cuts, hotspot states that it's good news that it's just younger
people because they have a better survival rate.
That is the fallacy. The President also points out the
Coronavirus, death rate is down.
That's true for now.
But the death toll you can't celebrate it right now when
you're seeing people heading into the hospital.
Because we've seen this story before. In some ways, it never
really ended in a lot of ways it is worse than ever.
And of course, as we see younger people infected and going into
the ICU, it spreads to older populations, that death rate
will change.
These people go home. These people infect their parents and
their grandparents, those people get sick, they end up in the ICU
and they either die or they take it from somebody else that could
have used it. Especially the viruses
become more dangerous because it can infect more people it's more
easily able to take root in the community so it's changing in a
worse way
this is going to be catastrophe abound catastrophe. Just to say
hey, look at the death rate now is extremely superficial.
Does the US
need another stay at home order if the virus continues to rage
like this, we have no choice
the White House and their calculation. This is about
trying to instill a sense of normalcy, then we all know that
life can't really feel like it's back to normal. It can't feel
Americans can't feel that they have the virus under control, we
have absolutely zero chance and by zero chance, I mean, zero ZR,
zero chance of moving past this with Donald Trump in that job,
oh, calling all these
large infections. And Dr. Fauci again, is doing what he's been
doing from the beginning. He's been telling you the truth, and
you haven't want to hear it.
Adam Curry: So whatever is going on the the fact that less people
that the mortality rate is so low is not being celebrated on
the mainstream. Let me just give you some statistics to say the
least listening to that clip. In 1980, we had the Spanish flu.
The world population then was a little under I think it was a
lunch under a million people that we counted at the time. So
the Spanish Flu took out 50 No. affiliation was no no, I'm
sorry, the No, the world population was a billion I'm
sorry, a billion 110 year I think that's about right. By 2
billion. The Spanish flu killed 50 million people, which of
course, was a tragic event. According to the experts. That
is a five point 26% of the world's population died during
the Spanish flu 5% More than 5% in 2018, the world population
was then 7.5 billion. The seasonal flu killed 650,000
People flu kills 650,000 people worldwide. That is 0.009% of the
world population. And the experts of course, say that's a
typical year COVID-19 world population up little 7.7
billion, counting to date. 500,000 dead. That is 0.06% of
the world population. The experts tell us this is no good.
Especially not with Donald Trump in the Oval Office. Just this
insane, but okay.
John C. Dvorak: I love that one part of the clip, which was
saying wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for Donald Trump. Okay,
so by the way, I think might be true.
Adam Curry: Thank you. And this at this point is purely
political. So you already you already notice that what states
have the surge, it's the not just Republican governors, but
it's also those that opened up early and screwed it up clearly,
although there's no mortality rate evidence for that. And if
you look at the hospitalization rate, we are at 40%. Faster, we
are at 80% of the 40% beds that have made been made available.
And if you do the math, and and you needed to actually bring in
a whole bunch of COVID-19 sufferers. We're pretty much
right now at 30% of our available ICU beds. But because
they say we they cordon off and say well of the 4500 We only
have 1500 available oh my god, we're at 80% 90% We're all gonna
die, they can just easily shift those beds around. So this is
clearly political. And the reason for it is the vaccine.
We're getting ready for the vaccine and it's going to be
deployed in Texas. Of course, Boston is not really the hotbed
it's Houston. And this is a public service announcement
running on K h o u 11. Houston now playing a major role in the
effort to come up with a vaccine for the Coronavirus and Houston
research firm has been selected to conduct vaccine trials.
Here's Ron Trevino.
Unknown: The researchers at the Texas Center for drug
development and dem clinical research have not received any
potential Coronavirus vaccines just yet, but they will be
arriving soon. Then they can start clinical trials and the
big push to get a vaccine to help end the pandemic. But they
need volunteers you have to be at least 18 years old and they
want a diverse pool of people in this trial.
In order for trials to be shown to be effective and safe in all
populations. All different types of people. all genders and races
need to participate.
Houston's diversity is one of the reasons to clinical trials
are being held here. Researchers say the potential vaccines have
already passed phase one and testing and they say they are
safe. If you want to volunteer go to Houston fights covid.com
to apply back to you back
Adam Curry: to you. Thank you very much.
John C. Dvorak: This mentioned all did go through the whole
checklist. The checklist no there's there's you have to be
18 or older. It can be any gender any race and you have to
have a ended last one is you have to very low IQ.
Adam Curry: Well, this checklist this package I went to that
website of course Houston fights COVID the package use the entire
B roll was video from what's on that website. So this is this is
not like a news story. This is pushed in there, hey, we need
people to test please do a piece and point them to our website.
They have a video there would explains which will happen I
just cut it down to a minute so you can kind of get the idea to
do your part. I'm sorry.
John C. Dvorak: I'm just saying Do they did they mention how
much money they're gonna pay? Yes, yes, I have
Adam Curry: this. I have all this information for you. Yes,
you're part
Unknown: of the Houston fights COVID movement by volunteering
to participate in the COVID vaccine trials. Those who
qualify will schedule an appointment to come to one of
our two clinic facilities in the greater Houston area. Texas
Center for drug development, we're here to make your
experience as safe and efficient as possible. experience as much
like a visit to your general practitioner. We asked you wear
a mask upon arrival. And as you enter our lobby, the
receptionist will greet us you check in your temperature and
prepare for your appointment at our clinic follows a strict
sterilization process before the vaccine
Adam Curry: through your arm. That's part of the program.
Unknown: Well investigational. The vaccines have been approved
by the FDA for phase two or three trials, which means that
they have gone through earlier rounds of human trials where the
safety data is available. After the vaccine is administered,
participants will be carefully monitored by our doctors and
staff for at least 30 minutes to ensure their safe departure. By
participating in this study, you could help end this current
pandemic and prevent future recurrences. This is your
opportunity to contribute to the process of helping us see life
in Houston, return to normal again. Join the fight at Houston
fights covid.com. So this
John C. Dvorak: was dead girl puts a smile on your
Adam Curry: face. Oh, yeah, very, very happy. So the way it
worked? Well, let's let's just step back for one second, you
identified that the targeting all the messaging about the
testing about the deaths about the destruction about the second
wave, third wave, opening up to some dumb Republicans was
targeted at young people. And this is not a coincidence, of
course, they're targeting young people. And this is meant to
bring out young people listen to this, you'll get a minimum
depending on the length of the trial, a minimum of $1,000 and
you get to go anywhere you want. You have the cloak. So because
they need you to be exposed, exposed to see if it works. And
I think we're moving into act three of this.
John C. Dvorak: Right? That is a very tempting offer. Of course
it is
Adam Curry: even the $1,000. But forget that I can go in and out
you may not even have to wear a mask.
John C. Dvorak: Well, you could also become a member of the
media and then go anywhere you want to. But that's another
story. You don't get to $1,000 to get nothing.
Adam Curry: So act three is upon us. We're about to go into into
the testing into the in the wild. We're talking 30,000
people a month. And it's no coincidence that there's a new
actor on the scene. And I identified this act while he's
bursting on the street and seeing he's being introduced a
big PR Blitz. It started this weekend when I saw New York
Magazine and the headline Anthony Fauci his boss on why
things could be much better soon. And this is a new guy, Dr.
Francis Collins sounds kind of like almost like if Anthony
Fauci, Francis Collins, they go together, like peanut butter and
jelly. I have highlighted a few parts from this. Interview this
piece about it one of the few Obama appointees still serving
in a major role in the Trump administration Collins who rose
to prominence in the 1990s as leader of the Human Genome
Project. So this is no slouch. This is the guy who led the
Human Genome Project and decoding of the our DNA. He is
the head of the National Institutes of Health, the
federal government's gargantuan hub for medical research with an
annual budget of $42 billion. The NIH is essentially unrivaled
in the world as a research center. Among its 20,000
employees is Dr. Anthony Fauci, who runs the division focused on
infectious diseases fit Fauci was a mentor to Collins, when
the ladder joined the NIH decades ago, and they remain
close talking at length on the phone most evenings I doubt it.
Now they highlight here that Dr. Collins just recently won the
one million dollar Templeton Prize from the John Templeton
Foundation. Which, by the way, give this very good doctor
approximately 200 to $300,000 per year to his foundation
already. They've been doing that since 2007. So they've been
feeding this guy money. He has a little foundation on the side
call biologic dose. We'll get to that in a moment. So the guy
that has been receiving grant money from this foundation, now
also was elevated to the Templeton Prize. the Templeton
Prize I might add, is not for douchebags. Sister Teresa was
the first recipient of the recipients include Desmond
Bishop Desmond Tutu. So now this guy is in here, he's obviously
important. Here's one quote from him. And this is how I come up
with phase three. He says until we have a vaccine that can be
widely applied and provide immunity, most of our country is
still at risk. This is not a time to relax. There are at
least four vaccines that we'll be getting into such large
trials this summer, beginning as early as July. Each one of those
trials will involve roughly 30,000 volunteers who get paid
half of whom will get the vaccine, half of whom will get a
dummy placebo. Now I have a problem with that sentence.
Isn't it just a placebo? What is a dummy placebo? Does that mean
it's a placebo? That's not really a placebo? Your
John C. Dvorak: your observation is absolutely correct to
placebos, a placebo. There's no such thing as a dummy placebo.
That's messaging. And I don't know what it's about. But I
think there's something there's just calling somebody a dummy.
Adam Curry: Placebo for Dummies right? Now, check this out.
Those trials will have to be conducted in areas where the
virus is actively spreading, because that's the only way
you're going to know whether it was protective. Hello, red
states that have been over tested opened up too soon. And
you are up. That's what's going on here. And this guy is out to
get PR he's out to to show himself to the world. He showed
up on NPR. He needed a little bit of exposure. Well, what's
the best way to do that? Talk about some some social justice
issue. NPR is always going to highlight you for that
Unknown: it is time to end the tradition in science of all male
speaking panels. That's the word from Francis Collins and he
should know Collins as the head of the National Institutes of
Health people at the Human Genome Project and he has been
to a lot of all male panels or manholes. So obviously so common
there are multiple nicknames for
Adam Curry: manholes Hold on I gotta write that one.
John C. Dvorak: No one has ever called them manholes. This is
NPR by the way and I have pointed this out in previous
shows NPR is turned out to be the worst of the group. They're
worse than CNN at this point.
Adam Curry: Honestly, I didn't even hear that was first time I
played it the second time I clipped I didn't hear them.
That's a great one. All
Unknown: male panels or mantle's? Seriously it's so
common. There are multiple nicknames for the practice,
including man princes and symposiums.
Adam Curry: What a plethora man Francis, and what was the other
one was imposed. Liam's imposed Liam's. Yeah, him as imposing
imposing imposed
John C. Dvorak: hymns. And what was the other one I missed the
first the second one
Adam Curry: man you met with, I think was man Francis, hold on,
man, for instance.
Unknown: Now in an attempt to break down that tradition, he is
vowing not to speak on panels that do not fairly consider
scientists of all backgrounds this morning.
Welcome to the program. Nice to be with you, Adi.
So you've been in this business a long time, what do you think
has prevented women or diversity in general from these panels?
I'd like to think that there's not an intentional bias going
on. But there certainly seems to be an implicit bias when people
are setting up workshops or panels or symposia. They kind of
pick out Oh, I know this person. And I know that person and all
too often the people they're thinking of are the men. And
then you end up coming to one of these events and being
embarrassed to be part of something when we have a
wonderfully diverse scientific workforce. And it doesn't seem
to be getting represented and I just decided this already I'm
not going to I'm
John C. Dvorak: sorry, guys making me sick already. Oh, like
the racist thing. You know, you go to these things. I've been on
many of these in tech, and there's women, sometimes there's
not and there's, you know, this is the last thing you're aware
of, you're, you're going to these things, you're not
thinking about this, you're thinking about what you're going
to be saying and what kind of person is going to be leading
the thing are they gonna ask good questions? Are you gonna
it'd be annoyed. I mean, this guy's full of crap. This is
nonsense.
Adam Curry: You have no, you have no idea how dangerous this
guy is, you have no idea. But I'm going to try and show it to
you. Back to this article in New York Magazine. He's laying out.
He's justifying how the testing is going to work. So we have for
trial starting end of July 30 30,000 people per trial, half
of which are dummies, as he says himself. And he goes on to
explain that this is a huge investment. And it's prepaid.
This is prepaid through GAVI prepaid through active, which is
this cartel of the National Institute, the NIH and the 18.
Pharmaceuticals. He says this is an investment in manufacturing
10s of millions of doses of these vaccines, even before we
know if they're going to work to prevent long delay at the end.
Because it would be really sad if we were celebrating in
December, saying, Hey, we've got a vaccine that works. And then
there were no doses left to offer to people who need it. So
that has to wait, wait here comes. So that has to be planned
for, even if it means throwing out the doses of the vaccines
that failed, we're prepared to do that, I want you to remember
that he said this. And then he goes into just some basics about
the vaccine. But this guy is very, very interesting. He wrote
a book in 2007, called the language of God, a scientist
presents evidence for belief. Before he went to the NIH, he
started the foundation BioLogos, which makes the case for a
harmony between science and Christianity. This guy is he
went into to med school, by his own admission, went into med
school, a complete atheist, came out an evangelical Christian.
And so take into account the human genome project he led that
key is the guy that is attempting to meld science and
religion and have a very short clip of one of his speeches.
Just to give you an idea, what you're going to see is a slide
with two pictures on it. And they both look like they're a
stained glass window in a church round, you know, kind of with
the spikes. You know, what is it like a round around stained
glass church window. And this is just the beginning.
Unknown: Let me ask you to look at these two images, because
we're about to talk about the worldview question. I think this
is a provocative way to begin to think about that, because what
you see are two images that look somewhat similar to each other,
but they stand in for somewhat different worldview
perspectives. This being of course, a beautiful stained
glass window, the rose window in Westminster Cathedral. And this
is an unusual view of DNA, not looking at it from the side, but
looking down the long axis of DNA. So you see that radio
pattern? And the question that many people pose and which I
pose to you tonight is, Okay, those are two worldviews, the
scientific and the spiritual. Do you have to choose? Do you have
to basically throw in your life with one or the other and
neglect the other one? Or is there a possibility here, of
being someone who could merge these two, not necessarily
building a firewall between them, but actually having both
of those perspectives within your own experience? I think
many people today are arguing that these worldviews are at
war, and that there is no way to reconcile them. That has not
been my experience.
Adam Curry: Now, mind you, this guy is the DNA expert. He's
clearly trying to bring along Catholics and Christians
evangelicals into the scientific realm. So I guess he's still
very, he's a believer, but we'll find out. But what is the main
vaccine that is being attempted is the mRNA, which is a DNA
altering vaccine. It's not really a vaccine in the
traditional sense. So this is the guy who clearly has been
driving this, if only for the fact that he was behind the
Human Genome Project. And I'm reading this article, I finish
it up. I might go to search for him. And what pops up top link
is at that very moment alive. Zoom between this guy Francis
Collins and Anthony Fauci completely unsupervised, just
the two of them. And they've been friends for 27 years. So
they're yucking it up. They're getting boners over saying
things. If I had the clip, this is unreal. How these guys just
lay out the entire strategy for Act Three, and we'll start with
obviously letting everybody know red states suck we were
Unknown: having During about 20,000 new cases a day, and then
a series of circumstances associated with various states
and cities trying to open up in the sense of getting back to
some form of normality has led to a situation where we now had
record breaking cases. Two days ago, it was at 57,500. So within
a period of a week and a half,
Adam Curry: remember people cases just tested just tested
positive, more testing, he's making it sound like the world
is coming to an end,
Unknown: we've almost doubled the number of cases. So in
answer to your first question, we are still knee deep in the
first wave of this. And I would say this would not be considered
a wave, it was a surge, or resurgence of infections
superimposed upon a baseline Francis, that really never got
Francis wanted to go. If you look at the graphs from Europe,
Europe, the European Union as an entity, it went up and then came
down to baseline. Now they're having little blips, as you
might expect, as they try to reopen, we went up, never came
down to baseline, and now we're surging back up. So it's a
serious situation that we have to address immediately.
Adam Curry: Okay, bull crap, even Burke's showed yesterday in
the briefing, the testing, it's almost like looking at co2 and
global warming.
John C. Dvorak: Let's let's stop for one second. And kind of
remember those Bakersfield doctors that were Yes. banned
from YouTube. They had predicted all this. They said there's a
detector testing goes flying up, the cases go flying up and the
deaths died going down. And that's because this is the
ending. And I put three charts in the last newsletter. Yep.
Same thing showing that the cases were going up, but but the
testing was skyrocketing. And the but the desperate. Going
down is that and this if you just looked at the deaths, and
just look at that chart alone, if the case is you don't look at
the testing, you'd say this thing is good is going away.
Adam Curry: Yeah. And you didn't hear Fouchier Collins even
mentioned the death rate nothing at all. No, because they they
are unveiling the strategy for phase three. This is our act
three. This is the vaccine stage. And let's make sure that
we know that we are communicating to the right
group. Remember, we have to get the young people it is
Unknown: the case, isn't it now that a lot of those new cases
are younger people.
Adam Curry: Yeah, you can you can hear the script. I mean, the
guy knows this, and he's pretending to ask his underling
Fauci. Oh, isn't it isn't it that this just younger people?
They're rolling out a script and they are so bad at it?
John C. Dvorak: Stops, stop, stop, stop, stop. Let's I want
to go over this. So you stumped this was a zoom thing that was
open so people could watch it was live
Adam Curry: on YouTube. It was the okay live streams here.
John C. Dvorak: It was a live on YouTube. And you're supposed to
be a big dummy, not realizing that this is scripted.
Adam Curry: Oh my god. You laugh your ass off how scripted this
is.
John C. Dvorak: So it's scripted for this they're putting on a
play show. Yes. For the anyone who wants to listen in and so
you feel like Oh, I'm in on this. I know. I understand that.
Because I I listened to these two people talk to each other
when in fact, this is a scam. It's not a scam in the sense
that they're making money on the spot. But it's but this is a
scripted. Yes. presentation to sucker you and to think in a
certain way.
Adam Curry: Exactly. Yeah. And and it wasn't there was an NIH
USA Today Live Stream. I said zoom just to make it clear.
Yeah. Two boxes.
John C. Dvorak: USA Today is a problem. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Very popular. People look at USA Today. And so I'm
sure they tuned in to this. So again, the USA Today stuff
later, let's roll out the script of hate. Anthony isn't a young
people.
Unknown: It is the case, isn't it now that a lot of those new
cases are younger people are willing to go to places like
bars, which are not a good place to be if you don't want to catch
this. Some people are saying well, we don't have to worry so
much because young people don't usually get that sick.
Adam Curry: By the way saying catch this is I think this is
racist. You're only supposed to talk about you spreading it, but
that's a sign that there's
Unknown: a problem with that. Is
Adam Curry: there a problem? Well, there's a
Unknown: big problem with that. Francis, first of all, the
average age of people getting infected now is a decade and a
half younger than what it was a few months ago particularly when
New York and New Orleans
Adam Curry: this because they were out protesting or because
there's more testing I don't know this
John C. Dvorak: is the this whole scheme about these always
younger now that's why it's different. What change what
exactly changed. And by the way, Adam, to how often do I call you
Adam when I'm talking to you?
Adam Curry: Well, John, that in fact is one of the things John
that you hate the most you don't even like it when I say Hey,
John,
John C. Dvorak: you are correct.
Adam Curry: Thank you very much John ago,
Unknown: we're getting hit very badly. That's the first thing.
The second thing that we're trying to get the messaging
across. Young people should not feel that they're invulnerable.
Excuse
Adam Curry: me when someone says we're trying to get the
messaging across. He's about to tell you the messaging that
they're trying to get across. This is
John C. Dvorak: that was a bad script writer there.
Adam Curry: Let's not just just the beginning is there that
listen, they're unsupervised. They're ad libbing freewheeling
their own deal. Hey, Tony, we've done this for 27 years. We could
do it again. Yeah, we could pull off hey, let's do it on that
newfangled thing. Yeah, let's do a stream. Okay. And if you see
the video, Collins is in a very impressive office with lots of
books, messy Fauci. He's sitting in this pristine kind of space.
And there's a there's some kind of artwork that is behind him,
and it's sticking out of his head. But it's, it's almost
exactly as why does it hit it looks like he has a pope hat on.
It's, it's very Illuminati s kind of symbolism. I don't know
if that was intentional, but it's odd to look at, we
continue,
Unknown: we're getting hit very badly. That's the first thing.
The second thing that we're trying to get the messaging
across, young people should not feel that they're invulnerable
to serious consequences. The more we learn about this
disease, Frances, the brands realize that many young people
may not necessarily get sick enough to go to the hospital,
but they can get very sick, put them out of action for weeks at
a time. This is the messaging. The other thing is, they should
not think that even if they get infected, and they have no
symptoms at all, that they are in a vacuum. They're not because
by getting infected, they are propagating the outbreak,
because inadvertently or innocently, they could infect
someone who would infect someone, and then all of a
sudden someone's grandmother or grandfather, or aunt who's
getting chemotherapy for breast cancer gets infected.
Adam Curry: So I could infect someone who affects someone else
who goes home and FX, I want to then infect the grandmother who
was who is under chemotherapy for breast cancer, and she dies.
Thank you, Anthony.
Unknown: So although you think you're isolated in a vacuum,
you're not you're part of the propagation of the pandemic. So
it's your responsibility to yourself, as well as the society
to avoid infection shame. That's a message I know, it's difficult
to get out to young people, but they really need to understand
that.
Yeah, I saw the Surgeon General's public service
announcement, which is a good way to say this, which is put on
your mask and then COVID stops with you. And if we all can
think about that, we it's up to us, each of us to stop this
pandemic. It's not some decisions going to be made in
the governor's mansion. It's about us deciding that this is
our responsibility. Hey.
Adam Curry: Okay, so COVID says
John C. Dvorak: your acting classes or do not really hurt.
It's fantastic.
Adam Curry: Okay. Now, you're right. You thought that was bad
acting? Wait for this one. Well, let's talk about vaccines.
Unknown: The world is abuzz.
Adam Curry: Hey, Tony, let's talk about vaccines. The world
is abuzz about the vaccines girlfriend. This is just a
rajas.
Unknown: Let's talk about vaccines. The world is abuzz
vaccine.
Adam Curry: This guy runs a $42 billion health budget.
Everybody's abuzz about vaccines. Tony, well, let's
Unknown: talk about vaccines. The world is abuzz about
vaccines because the way in which we might ultimately get
past this and have a chance to go back to something approaching
normal life where we can all be back together again because this
risk won't be so high. Where are we, Joanie, with the vaccine
efforts that have been moving forward at unprecedented speed.
Adam Curry: Hey, Tony, where are we with the vaccine efforts that
have been moving forward at unprecedented speed?
Unknown: But of course, they are full of scientific challenges
that tell us about
Adam Curry: Yeah, I think the first thing Wow, did you hear
that? That was Tony Fauci is throat wheezing was that
Unknown: challenges? Uh, tell us about? Yeah, I
Adam Curry: think that was his that was Fauci inhaling.
Unknown: Very healthy himself. Oh, they are full of scientific
challenges that tell us about
the first thing people need to understand that although
timetables are given when you're dealing with a vaccine, that
there's never a guarantee that your candidate will be both safe
and effective. So there's always the big question mark, however,
assuming that there will be one and maybe more safe and
effective vaccines, here's where we are with the timeline. Okay,
there are multiple candidates It's using different platforms,
several of which the United States government and the NIH
itself, we are involved in helping to facilitate the
development either directly or indirectly with our sites, if
things go the way
John C. Dvorak: isn't he telling that head of the NIH? What the
head of the NIH should? Well? No. I mean, be very familiar
with.
Adam Curry: Yes. But they divvied up the script. In fact,
do you recall? Well, I reminded you or I asked you to keep
something in mind when I was reading from the article, just
skip to the next clip,
Unknown: we are now working with the companies bought by their
investment to start making doses. Before we even know
whether it works or not get ready for it. When we get to the
winter and the early part of 2021, we will start to have a
large number of doses that people will be able to use if it
turns out to be safe and effective to begin with.
So does that mean if one of those vaccines doesn't turn out
to be safe and effective, you just have to throw out all of
those doses that were made because they wanted to be ready,
but it isn't always going to work.
Adam Curry: He's asking this question. Tony, does not mean
that we have to throw out the vaccine that doesn't work
John C. Dvorak: doesn't discourage Shouldn't this guy
know the answer to this question. He
Adam Curry: knew it in his he runs the play. He knew it. In
his interview over the weekend. He said literally, we have to
throw it out. That's what I asked you to remember. I know.
John C. Dvorak: He got me on that one. Yes. You already did
that. You already said that. But now he's playing dumb.
Adam Curry: It was listen to that dumb part, again, the big
F.
Unknown: So does that mean if one of those vaccines doesn't
turn out to be safe and effective, you just have to
throw out doses that were made.
Adam Curry: How can this be? I wish I knew I don't run a $46
billion
Unknown: budget is good. Wanted to be ready, but it isn't always
gonna work. Oh, well,
the answer? There is.
John C. Dvorak: stop for one second. This is one of the
little things that probably irked me the most, and I you see
with broadcasters to somebody knows something knows the
answer. They know the answer. And instead of posing the
question as if they know the answer, which you can do and get
away with, you can say well, as we know, or you can put you can
couch it differently. It's
Adam Curry: the Late Show pre interview question. So I heard
that you had a really entering expect interesting experience
last week in Disneyland, which of course is a known story.
That's the worst case
John C. Dvorak: scenario. Yes, yes, exactly. But I have run
into people that are that do tech, for example. And they're
very knowledgeable about something. But they feel obliged
to act completely stupid about something. So to ask because
they can't ask the question. And the other way, they don't know
how to do it, I guess. But to hear somebody that at this
level, running the NIH acting stupid with questions that he
knows the answer to, it's a humiliation, this guy should go
they should get rid of him.
Adam Curry: This guy is only just breaking onto the scene.
We're going to see a lot of him Fauci can't do the vaccines.
Fauci is too tainted. He's the wrong guy for the vaccine. This
is the guy that's bringing the vaccine. That's why he's in the
magazine. That's why he's on NPR. That's why they did this
little script. And I will say as a little aside, if you look at
revelations and you look at the Antichrist, where Revelation
says the Antichrist will come he will look just like you this a
significant portion of our Christian religious believers
and believing producers who think this guy will be an
excellent candidate for the Antichrist because I'm
John C. Dvorak: he used to agree with them. He isn't good. For
example. Just what you played there. This is for evangelical
Christian, this is basically blatant lying. Oh, yeah, he's
handling this. He is He is a liar. This guy. Oh,
Adam Curry: yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, he's lying here pretending
he's certainly being not being sincere, pretending he doesn't
know about how anyway, so I'll skip past the rest of that clip,
we got out what we needed the end of it. They just say, hey,
this will be just as safe as any other vaccine, which I thought
was kind of funny. But now now now now. Now we need to go after
the people here to sign people up. We need to we need to get
people we need to get people to take this test. We already
determined that these have to be young people got to be on people
got a message to the young people. Here's the messaging. I
want to get out. Now. Let's get this going. We need to get
people to sign up for the trials. And it
Unknown: will be important to encourage people to enroll so
people who are watching this right now, my intention in two
or three weeks to announcements that there might be a vaccine
trial enrollment, some We're in your neighborhood,
Adam Curry: like we just heard in Houston,
Unknown: because we will depend on the public to sign up and
help us figure this out. Let's be clear, these vaccines have
already gone through phase one and phase two trials. So we know
that they've been safe, significant number of
individuals, and we know that they seem to be capable of
raising antibodies, but we haven't actually done the real
casting in the field that is going to be in the so called
phase three trials. But particularly, Tony, it seems to
me because this disease COVID-19 has hit particular group
Adam Curry: and even that, you know, John, it seems kind of to
me like, Hey, John, in particular, I mean, it's so
contrived, it's so contrived, and
Unknown: it'd be in the so called phase three trials. But
particularly, Tony, it seems to me because this disease COVID-19
has hit particular groups really hard. I'm talking about older
people, people with chronic disease, African Americans,
Latinos, we want to be sure.
Adam Curry: Old old man, it's not Latinos, bro. But we'll let
you slide people, people
Unknown: with chronic disease, African Americans, Latinos, we
want to be sure that the vaccine enrollment includes those folks
as well. Are there ways based on past experience where we are
sure that outreach will work and we will get people to sign up
for those groups?
Adam Curry: Do we have the messaging, right, Tony?
Unknown: Well, thank you, Francis. What was Dr. Collins
was referring back to you, Francis,
leading me into the
John C. Dvorak: question, Why thank you even very much.
Adam Curry: Even says you're leading me here.
Unknown: Well, thank you, Francis, what Dr. Collins was
referring to, leading me into the answer to the question was
that?
Adam Curry: But why are they laughing? It's not because of
the question is he's laughing? I believe this guy is secretly
loving the answer.
Unknown: This is something that we've done with all our HIV
trials, there is an analogy here. When you're dealing with
HIV, there's a disparity of
Adam Curry: why the hell is he laughing about this? So they're
talking about, are we reaching the right people? He says,
you're leading me right into the answer. They crack up laughing?
Because it's just like when we did HIV.
Unknown: Thank you, Francis. What Dr. Collins was referring
to, leading me into the answer to the question was that this is
something that we've done with all our HIV trials, there is an
analogy here. When you're dealing with HIV, there's a
disparity of susceptibility of involvement. 30% of the American
population is African American, and 45 to 50% of the new
infections. So whenever we do treatment, and prevention
trials, through our networks, we outreach through community
representatives, and community outreach, we're going to use
that same model to do the same thing for the African American
Latina X and Native American populations. In fact, Francis
and I, right now are very heavily involved in making sure
that the trials are quite well represented by the individuals
who are most susceptible, not only to infection, because of
certain circumstances in their life, but also because of the
fact that they are more prone to complications, because of
underlying comorbidities. It's a major goal of the trial to be
properly represented. And that's what we're going to make
certainly a high priority.
Adam Curry: So here's what I heard. Yes. Just like remember
how much fun we had trying to find the gays to take them to
take the tough. Now we gotta get black people. Can't wait to try
it out on him first. That's what I'm hearing and I'm not kidding
you, man. These people are
John C. Dvorak: not going to argue the point they are
Adam Curry: evil. And will this thing even work coming back
Unknown: to the vaccines? I keep hearing? Yes, Tony. Okay. So
suppose this all looks really good. And you have a vaccine
that's safe and effective and we start immunizing people. How
long will that protection lasts when you've seen?
Are you going to need to take it again?
I mean, like the flu where you have to have a shot every year
or will you get a booster? Not that what do you think,
Adam Curry: wow, we hadn't discussed this at all in many
meetings before we went out and spent hundreds of millions or
maybe billions of dollars pre funding vaccines we might have
to throw away. What do you think a pie? Well, this
Unknown: is Francis a great question, and it's the reason
why we have to be
Adam Curry: Yeah, we do. Please just say it To say it, it's not
a great question. Not a great question
John C. Dvorak: by any means.
Unknown: This is Francis a great question. And it's the reason
why we have to be humble about what we do. We do not know the
answer to that we do not know. I mean, you can assume that you're
going to get protection at least to take us through the cycle.
When you look at natural infection, it's anywhere between
six months to a year. However, with this spike protein that's
being presented in the way that we do it with primes and in some
cases boosts we're going to assume that there's a degree of
protection, but we have to assume that it's going to be
finite. It's not going to be like a measles vaccine.
Adam Curry: How does an M RNA vaccine which is intended not to
have your body produce immunity against future infection from
this dead end host your dead and virus you receive? But it is
intended to change your actual DNA? Why in God's name, would
you need a boost or a booster for that? It just doesn't make
John C. Dvorak: well even if it was let's just assume let's
that's a B, if it's a normal disease I mean the reason you
got to have to have a flu shot every year because the flu
changes every year right? So is this thing going to change every
year? Oh way they're already changed once from the phony
baloney SARS which disappeared magically weren't. Where did
that ever go? No one ever talks about the disappearance of Cove
one SARS that came and went, and it which was deadlier. Now we
have this, this is a this is a Blab created product that will
just naturally go away and they're just trying to get these
vaccines out and manufacture tons of the vaccines as fast as
they can. It's prepaid. They already made their money. It's
prepaid. So they want to get their money out of this thing.
And they got to do it before this thing completely
disappears, as is shown by the deaths chart, which is falling
off the cliff.
Adam Curry: Final two clips, they're short. So we're signing
off now. And then Collins holds up a ball a model of the
Coronavirus. So he has like the size of a softball with all
these spikes sticking out of it. It's green, it's green, it's not
purple, red, it's green is this
Unknown: bad boy, this is my model of the Coronavirus, SARS,
cov two, with all of those spiky proteins that just as the way
that it likes to get inside of your cells, we are going to
vanquish this guy on top for a whole lot longer.
Adam Curry: Okay, we're gonna vanquish this guy. And now, to
answer your question about this guy's religiosity. Listen to how
he says goodbye. And you tell me if this is a man of faith, a man
who fears God
Unknown: then hang on Because Science, the best science you
can imagine, led by amazing people like Tony Fauci, and many
others, who is going to come forward here with what we
believe will be ultimately a chance for us all to get back to
the kind of lives that we were living leaving, leading in 2019.
And you know, what, all of us, and a few years, we'll have
parties where we talk about what did you do and 2020. Our
grandchildren will tell their grandchildren, what they did in
2020. We were counting the money. This is unlike anything
we've faced before, but we're up to it. We have the courage, the
strength, the vision, and the energy to make it happen. And
the hope is,
Adam Curry: oh, I'm sorry. If you're a man of faith, if you're
a man who went in an atheist in the med school came out and
evangelical Christian, and you believe in God, and you've
professed this and you believe that science has a role under
God? Why is the last thing you say? an afterthought? Oh, yeah,
and some hope. Listen, again,
Unknown: this is unlike anything we faced before. But we're up to
it. We have the courage, the strength, the vision, and the
energy to make it happen. And the hope
Adam Curry: and the hope. Come on man, he would
John C. Dvorak: have said with God's help,
Adam Curry: yes. Or how about even hope? He said hope. He
forgot to say hope.
John C. Dvorak: Thanks, Tony, thanks to the hope was even an
afterthought. It is listen, listen to
Unknown: the strength, the vision and the energy to make it
happen. And the hope and the hope.
Adam Curry: Rather, third act is upon us. This is the important
phase. I know they can play it any way they want
John C. Dvorak: shooting everybody up on the water for
all we know, dummy placebo,
Adam Curry: we don't know we have no idea but
John C. Dvorak: by the way, show title.
Adam Curry: I think you're right. But How sick is it? I
mean, so the way the way I the way I interpret these guys and
the way What is happening is let's target those those idiots
the rednecks, the dummies, and of course they're not wearing
masks so we can blame them for they didn't open up right
anywhere you're not wearing a hoe that they're the target you
could do this any any city in America except for New York
possibly any city in America you could do this now. You can test
more find this big group of people and then you can set up
your vaccine trial and of course Houston is one of the first of
course it is I haven't heard about any vaccine trials in
California which has more cases than we do we have
John C. Dvorak: a we have we have a Democratic governor who
scams
Unknown: are so lucky with that I guess
John C. Dvorak: he's a good man he wears a mask in his He's now
on Twitter. He's got his picture with a mask on. That's because
when you're on Twitter if you don't have a picture of the
mascot, you're scared you want some COVID updates around the
world we want to get them out of the way we get from COVID report
done yeah, for sure. Let's start when there's only four of them
here they're they're kind of combined it with a bunch of
because we got to remember the blast Brazil because Brazil is
the worst case scenario because you got to this Bolson arrow guy
has taken his mask on he have taken his
Adam Curry: mask off even though he's he's positive.
John C. Dvorak: And with the guy says Jesus, he's a plague on
socialism. So let's play COVID Brazil In
Unknown: Brazil bars and restaurants also reopened in
parts of the country this week despite the second largest
Corona virus outbreak in the world behind the United States.
On Friday, Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro vetoed parts of a
law that would have required facemasks indoors when large
groups gather Bolsonaro has downplayed the severity of the
pandemic despite increasing numbers of infections and deaths
in Latin America's largest country.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, yeah, exactly. To get that in there.
Okay, let's go to COVID Oh, here's a good one. This is the
COVID cases versus deaths. Comparison, which is I like to
wear the Android Play the deaths and here we go.
Unknown: Nationwide, there were more than 57,000 New confirmed
cases reported yesterday. According to Johns Hopkins
University researchers, new daily cases are increasing in 39
states with sharp upticks in California, Arizona, Texas and
Mississippi. According to The New York Times data, Florida
reported 11,458 new cases today a new record for daily cases,
while the number of new cases is increasing, new deaths per day
are declining. And experts say the numbers reflect better
treatments and the fact that younger people who are less
likely to become severely ill account for more of the new
cases. Oh, really? Yeah.
John C. Dvorak: There's the memes. Yeah. It's all in there.
Young people. And this other thing, this little mystery I am
they keep throwing in there. And I've heard it a lot. I've seen
it a lot. The new improved treatments.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Which means any of these new and
improved treatments, anything except hydroxychloroquine. There
is I do have a new treatment. Hold on a second. I have the guy
here. Yes. This is of course, a doctor from Texas. He's from
West Texas for finally.
John C. Dvorak: And what do we have 4567888 car
Adam Curry: stable. We're stable, stable, everybody. Okay,
safe, we're stable, no up no down this
John C. Dvorak: f is extremely late.
Adam Curry: Well, I don't know what that means. So there's a
new treatment, a new cheap treatment, which means this will
be the first and last time you ever hear of this guy. His name
is Dr. Richard Bartlett. He treats his patients in West
Texas. He's been doing that for quite a number of years. And he
has a very, very simple protocol, which he says is the
exact same one that Taiwan Japan and Singapore have used with
incredibly low mortality rate in all of those countries.
Unknown: I'm pointing them out. Because the people in Texas in
Texas need to hear good news in Dallas, they need to hear good
news. And I have good news. I'm sure you do before I'm blown
away by those numbers. I gave up trying to write them down. But
you're gonna tell us somehow eventually where we get to this
point that in these other countries, they're doing what
I'm doing, Debbie, okay. They're doing what I'm doing, which is
not hydroxychloroquine although that works. And so what they're
doing is inhaled steroid. So my silver bullet is inhaled
budesonide. The brand name originally was Pulmicort Nast
generic. It's super cheap. It's about $200 for the total
treatment. If you pay cash, with insurance, many of my patients
are not even having to pay for it. And you use a nebulizer
machine. It's an asthma medicine. That's it's a
respiratory anti inflammatory for COVID, which is a
respiratory inflammatory disease, and it works 100% of my
patients are alive I've, I've been treating this since March
and use it for five minutes. So it takes five minutes to do a
breathing treatment, you plug it in the machine, the machine in
the wall, you put the medicine is pre mix pre measured from the
pharmacy into the little reservoir, you push the on
button and you breathe it during five minutes. You don't even
have to have a mask, you can use a little mouthpiece that you
hold in front of you, and you breathe it for five minutes.
And, and I have let me tell you what I've heard from patients
when I started using this. They tell me I feel better during the
first treatment. And so their chest pain goes away, their
shortness of breath goes away their fever breaks.
Adam Curry: So the only way that this of course could work is if
the President comes out today and says don't listen to that
guy. kill you in that shit.
John C. Dvorak: Yes, if Trump came out and said that you're
right, this would be the rage would be you know, it's it's
cheap, which is not a good thing. They don't want that.
Adam Curry: No, of course not. All right back to your world
overview.
John C. Dvorak: Nice. Nice pick up on that. Yeah. Here's the
here
Adam Curry: we are together. We are really way too tight for
this market. You realize that don't you
John C. Dvorak: for the podcasting market. Were too
tight baby. Let's go to COVID report UK.
Unknown: This pub in Cumbria in the north of England has
probably never been as clean, but it needs to be. Businesses
in England will be open for the first time in months from
Saturday. But that doesn't mean the pandemic is over yet.
We aimed for July the fourth, we wanted to set ourselves a
target. We think we're in good shape. But my message is let's
not blow it now, folks, we've done a fantastic job so far in
bearing down on this disease collectively. Let's not blow it
now.
Dozens of patients are still dying every day in British
hospitals, and many facilities such as gyms and swimming pools
will remain shut. Britons have also been warned that they
should continue to social distance while out and about
it but slightly worried about going into a couple of public
transport at the moment. We gotta get back to normal
the British government has also become embroiled in a round with
their counterparts in Cardiff and Edinburgh. Currently,
travelers entering the United Kingdom must quarantine for a
fortnight. But London's decision to soon exempt people arriving
from 59 countries from quarantine was met with theory
from the Welsh and Scottish Government's, both of whom have
decided to opt out of the plan.
But dealing with the UK Government over the last few
days has been an utterly shambolic experience shambolic
if ever there was an example of making an announcement first and
then trying to work out what you meant by it. That is what we
have seen since this announcement was first trailed
in the press.
Boris Johnson has also warned that further localized lockdowns
may be needed. One has already been imposed on the city of
Leicester, in the East Midlands. All in all, it adds up to the
strangest British summer in living memory.
Adam Curry: For 0.00 Sam
John C. Dvorak: bought shambolic about 10 years ago if you
remember we did a whole whole review on it. Yeah, shambolic
you remember this I thought it was bullcrap word and then we
went looked into it. It's a very useful word. shambolic look it
up. That's why you're looking it up. Yeah, play the last just
miserable. I should have played first but I'm not playing it
last just the code report UK PBS one
Unknown: in England pubs and restaurants open today for the
first time since March. It's the biggest step yet in the country
is gradual easing of Coronavirus restrictions. Patrons need to
stay one meter or about three feet from each other and no one
is allowed to stand at the bar but mask wearing is optional.
barbershops, museums and libraries also reopen today with
social distancing restrictions. But not all of the United
Kingdom is opening each of the UK is for nations England,
Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are lifting restrictions
independently.
Adam Curry: The level is report the Netherlands also has they
don't even call it a mask. I was talking to a buddy of mine I
said do you have masks? Their mask is What do you mean masks?
Which is which is Musker. In Dutch. They don't have they have
mouth caps. That's what they're called multicopter mouth caps.
Now only on public transport nowhere else. I guess it's a
different virus different virus.
John C. Dvorak: There's there's definitely a there's got to be
some the left to trying to get rid of Trump would love to, you
know, let this thing linger on forever. But they've they've got
to have some mixed feelings about this whole event and
public transportation which is a big carrier of this thing,
because they're always there. Oh, get rid of cars, we should
ride bikes and take buses. And we should never have a car and
cars are bad petroleum and they're bad things we should not
have. We should have less and less cars and more and more
buses and more and more public transportation like they do in
Europe. Yeah. And this is gotta be driving him nuts because
nobody wants to get on a Muni bus anymore in San Francisco. In
fact, they've canceled 40 lines. 40 lines have been taken out of
service. Wow.
Adam Curry: There's also no one needs to go anywhere. Nothing
go.
John C. Dvorak: But if you need to go you, you know, who wants
to take a bus and bid Bart is like deserted, and it's still
running?
Adam Curry: I mean, you know, they close. They close so much
in Los Angeles to us like, I mean, they're like, I heard that
the Comedy Store probably will not come back. They're just
going to be broke. Dawn. Yeah, not going to come back. It's
crazy. I have a few, like three lingering clips that just
pertain to the COVID unless you have something else and we can
wrap it up. Now. Those are my that's all I got. So with all of
this taking place, which is ultimately the goal of a vaccine
is to create herd immunity. And herd immunity means that enough
people are have the antibodies or cannot catch it, and
therefore transfer it that it just really dies out because
there's no one to pass it on to. And whether you do that because
everyone got it, which was some, in fact, the UK wanted to do
that initially probably would have been a better strategy.
It's what we do with influenza. We just wait until there's herd
immunity. We try to do herd immunity with the vaccine that
often doesn't even work at all and who knows. Dr. Ron Paul, who
I've followed since 2007, says that we're pretty much there.
Hundreds of
Unknown: herd immunity is something that we've been
supporting. Yeah, nature supports that herd
immunity to COVID 19 is just around the corner. New studies
say suggesting humans are rapidly building natural
protections against the virus. That's according to at least two
new studies by the Karolinska Institute in Sweden and the
University Hospital to begin in Germany. This study is finds at
least 30% of humans now have COVID specific antibodies, which
means they've been exposed to weak samples of the virus and
effectively equals a natural vaccine
herd immunity. Essentially here it's coming. Like yesterday when
you put up the charts show where the death levels were from the
Coronavirus, which is down to zero as well. Maybe the epidemic
is over.
John C. Dvorak: as just an old chart shows what I was talking
about.
Adam Curry: Exactly, not just an old Kook, you you and Ron Paul,
same old cooks and curries, he's training to be one. However,
there's more cool data points that we talked about here, such
as the spread through the air, we had the top dog motifs to
hold the dog, he says this thing is being spread through the air,
you need to stay out of conditions the air of air, but
you have to have good ventilation because it still
needs a viral load. So if you're talking to someone face to face,
it would likely take about 10 minutes before you had enough
viral load until you
John C. Dvorak: do a carbon copy again. I think like in I don't
know, January, February, March at least we had a clip of a guy
who was a doctor who said the only way you're going to get
this is from hand contact to do with the actual viruses that you
bring to your face. Or you have to be in the proximity of
somebody with it for a long time like 10 minutes. So we're not as
this continues. We're hearings nothing new that we haven't
already on this show. discussed in great detail back in
February, March.
Adam Curry: That's exactly that's exactly what I was going
to point out. I'm gonna
Unknown: do it. I'm sorry. I
Adam Curry: stepped all over. Oh, no, no, it's that's kind of
the point is like, we have been if Austin if they say shut down
for 35 days, I am defying and I'm gonna make a big fucking
deal about it. Because I haven't acted
John C. Dvorak: whenever you want your media services, I
guess you can go look at you look at the order and you're
going to find out that you're exempt. So your debt you're
defying it is is is a Pyrrhic victory.
Adam Curry: I'm going to stand outside my hairdresser's salon
while she remains open and I will be armed with my ar 15. Or
do you believe me? I have we've done the work. We've done the
research. We were not just we just not going to buy into the
reporting of it. And to the scam that is being pulled. I mean,
the role being pulled over is no no. And just to prove it,
exactly what we said through research with other types of
researchers who were deep platformed and thrown off
mainstream because they didn't have the right message but it
turns out yes, indeed. EAD spreads through
Unknown: there hundreds of the world's top doctors, Elizabeth,
are now warning 239 of them signing this letter saying they
want more public acknowledgement that the Coronavirus can float
and be transmitted through air droplets. But I have to say when
I read this, I thought to myself, don't we already
Adam Curry: know this isn't? Hold on, wait for that why
Unknown: masks are so important, right? This
gets very confusing and sort of a distinction that scientists
understand. But sometimes it's hard to really get it. So let's
talk about this.
Adam Curry: In other words, you're stupid. Whatever you're
thinking now you're stupid. Mostly what
Unknown: authorities have talked about, you can see it on the CDC
webpage, is that it spreads through sneezes, and coughs. In
other words, there has to be something propelling it.
However, there has been a lot of talk that even just breathing
can spread it that you don't really need that kind of
propelling to get it to get that just to spread the virus. And
this is not a big secret, the National Academy of Sciences
told the White House this more than three months ago that they
think just breathing can spread this virus. And so now the
scientists, more than 200 of them are telling the World
Health Organization, let's talk about this. openly, the word
airborne is scary. But let's talk about this only that this
does spread more easily. It seems that's what studies are
showing than people had first thought,
Adam Curry: okay, so no, it's not scary. You only need to be
exactly where the government tells you not to be you need to
be outside, if you're inside, especially if the conditions are
of humidity are there, then it's going to hang in the air and
then you walk around for 10 minutes. If someone has it, you
are probably going to get it if that if you have if you have a
sick person, put them in their bedroom, crack a window, make
sure there's no ventilation is going to be okay. Mass do not
work against this, you are breathing air. It's not like
your little cloth mask that you've been told this, okay is
going to protect you, though. You're all going to get it
because it's meant to be gotten that way. It's there. In fact, I
believe that having a cloth homemade mask is probably worse.
But it's not super scary. That's definitely not true. It's just
not super scary.
John C. Dvorak: I think the mask is good because it gives people
a mild case of carbon dioxide poisoning does
Adam Curry: quite quickly, actually a Jew does it quite
quickly buzz
John C. Dvorak: but the mask
Adam Curry: is only about it's all about one thing. Politics,
controlling the politics, being able to identify the assholes
show it according to whomever showing that that that
Republicans are idiots because they had didn't have the mask.
And with increased testing. It's a sleight of hand, it's a trick.
Hey, you, you you open up your shoe and you did it wrong.
Awesome, by the way, did not open up too soon. We really
waited longer than most. But okay. And then you increase the
testing, you only talk about testing. And now we've got to
shut down. But now don't worry, help us on the way the vaccine
is coming. And they're destroying people. They're
destroying people. The European Union is trying to pass a law
that says that in addition to an pandemic, the world in the
European Union specifically has suffered from an info demic of
misinformation about COVID. And they're writing up laws against
anyone saying something that doesn't agree with the
established scientists. And they call it the info demic.
John C. Dvorak: Wow. Now I want to read beyond that list. I'm
sorry. Would we be put on the list of the verboten podcasts
the verboten podcast,
Adam Curry: I think they're gonna make it a little easier.
It's just going to be you can't say certain things and otherwise
you'll be deep platformed removed. I mean, they have all
that control over the social media companies. They already
tell them to delete all kinds of stuff. And UK you can't say
anything about a politician on social media, you could get
arrested. I'm so happy to live here. However, am I really? Do
you remember? The State Senator Scott Jensen, from Minnesota you
will when I tell you who said hey, man, this coding of people
is is a bonanza is $39,000 to code them as COVID Positive. He
was the first one we played. We played. All right. That was an
old clip a very old way back when he's back.
Unknown: Hi, Senator Scott Johnson. I represent Carver
County. This is one of the most important videos I've made and
one of the hardest. Frankly, it's been a very difficult
decision to make whether I even wanted to do it. Listen, a week
ago, I was notified by the Board of Medical Practice in Minnesota
that I was being investigated because of public statements I'd
made. They listen to allegations. They said I've been
spreading misinformation in regards to the completion of
death certificates on a news program, which happened to take
place on April 7. And you could find that one it was with Chris
Berg, if you wanted to. And the other allegation was that I
provided reckless advice, in my willingness to compare COVID-19
And the flip. When I got this letter I was, and quite frankly,
I leaned into the comfort, wisdom on my family to help
them, let them walk me and talk me off the cliff. Doggone it, if
this can happen to me, my view is it could happen ever,
anybody. I mean, I've been a family doc for 40 years. I work
hard. I love my patients, I do host calls. I've been medical
directors, I've held staff positions in hospitals to help
make things work better. I've been in the Senate for four
years, and I've learned a lot. I've never had anything like
this happened. Five years ago, I was named the missing family
doctor the year I did this because a couple people
complained. I don't get to know who those people are.
Adam Curry: Yeah, so he's maybe upset about the process cares,
maybe a bit upset about the process. But the point is the
medical community and the industry, which includes
pharmaceuticals and education, they won't allow this guy to
speak. They eventually his video will be off YouTube, they're
investigating me it's making lots of trouble making his life
difficult, like we heard the professor from, from the Nobel
society saying no one wants to look at data that just had
stopped talking like that. And of course, this never gets to
the mainstream media. Because when it's not an election year,
what are the ads running on the mainstream media? It
pharmaceutical, pharmaceutical ads, they completely control the
messaging. And who are the pharmaceutical companies out?
Oh, spoilered. China, they have complete control. Now it's
getting less now. They have incredible control over our
medication, they have control over the actual base materials
you need, even if you want to assemble or produce in India. It
was also China who showed the world the shutdown, which had
never been done before. on that scale. We in my mind are under a
psychological attack with complicit complicit behavior
from several large organizations, Disney, Comcast,
and it has to stop we should learn as Americans to channel
the bigotry and the hate and the vile feelings we have for each
other at Black Lives Matter to the CCP.
John C. Dvorak: Well, that's going to be my whole after the
break. Presentation.
Adam Curry: And with that, I'd like to thank you for your
courage. I can't wait for it in the morning to you the man who
puts the C in the block about the CCP John C. Dvorak.
John C. Dvorak: Oh, well in the morning do you Mr. Adam curry
also in the morning do all of the boots on the ground feet in
the air subs in the water and all the names and lights out
desk
Adam Curry: in the morning to our to our roles. Let me count
them. They seem a little quiet today. That's about right 14
Seven, he's about 1500 what we what we expect on a Thursday,
the second Sunday of the week. In the morning to you it says no
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thank our artist for episode 1257 We titled that one doggy
DNA, I feel which was probably an uninspired title. Which it
was but a lot of that was because of the artwork. Which
was we found in the evergreens. It was an incredible piece of
work from the J man 33 Orange Man bad Trump's profile with the
orange MAN bad word showing his that's his face in his neck. I
mean, it's the background is Cheetos. We got a lot of
compliments about this one.
John C. Dvorak: was a nice throwback piece dating is like a
Fillmore poster.
Adam Curry: I mean Fillmore east or west. Fillmore Fillmore
Fillmore. No more. Yeah.
John C. Dvorak: First there was the film more than there was the
Fillmore east and there was the Fillmore West than winter land.
And the original Fillmore was the place I'm referring to. It
was a vigil was a nice piece. I don't know. I didn't know. We
don't know this guy. And it probably irked a few of our
regular artists. I know they were talking about it on the
Twitter's
Adam Curry: Well, let's discuss this because no one hit the mark
the way you know, just no one hit the mark. So we went to the
evergreens found this, I can't believe we missed it, or there
must have been something much better or at the time that
happens.
John C. Dvorak: We normally don't look at evergreens unless
we're stymied. Right.
Adam Curry: But that just just it's everyone's stuff is really
busy. Sticking stuff all over it, you know, now with 33 I
mean, you gotta be careful. You know, these concept pieces are
really, really good. And just by looking at the response on
Twitter, I think it does that it does show a huge benefit. When
you have sitelink thank
John C. Dvorak: by the way I also picked another mountain J
piece for the newsletter two in a row.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, no, but this was this was not mountain
J. This was no
John C. Dvorak: this the other J Yeah, it is we don't know this
person. So all right, well,
Adam Curry: but I don't want anyone to think this is a
failure. You know, it's that's how it goes. Sometimes we also
have a with we with the ball or
John C. Dvorak: some number of shows that sometimes are hard to
do art for
Adam Curry: this is also true, and sometimes we're just tired.
John C. Dvorak: It was an element of that involved.
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and Associate Executive producers for episode. What are
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Maryland $400 And she sent a check in wrote a note thank you
for all you do the no agenda community needs you more than
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Unknown: Yes to
John C. Dvorak: don't think shrinking our amygdala is
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Keep thinking rationally all the time. Three. If you haven't yet
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Adam Curry: Oh okay 200.8 All right good.
John C. Dvorak: Yes the show 200 We've done eight times
Adam Curry: Yeah, I think we were tired it didn't wait. I
think we're kind of done well we kind
John C. Dvorak: of did but we've been talking about doing a newt
new 200 and rebooting it Yeah, we have thought about it anyway
she's just helps you explain a lot of the inside jokes if
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Adam Curry: no you don't say that because every single time
you say that he starts posting pictures of himself looking just
fine okay good he's fine.
John C. Dvorak: ATM John anatomy well I didn't know this. The
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Adam Curry: on Twitter?
John C. Dvorak: I said I'd use Twitter by now
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John C. Dvorak: Well I'm not completely done but I would like
people who are on Twitter to put get to follow me so I get my
numbers back up. Oh yeah shadow real divorce rack.
Adam Curry: Oh man what happens is whenever you post people
unfollow you because you post stuff that no no,
John C. Dvorak: they're not following me. They're just
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should have done it a long time ago. Okay, that's a real divert
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John C. Dvorak: I did. You're canceled. Prineville Oregon
again. Going back to Mariela? NOFO Yes. She had this takes her
halfway today. Mm hmm. I make it today in celebration with my
husband Colin, the deaf, dumb blind night we know him. My
rebirth day to the day I had survived the death sentence of a
brain aneurysm on July 8 2017. Oh, yes, we know Mariela. Yes,
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wood. Bo Jaiden when I donate on this day in 2018, I wrote that
no agenda was a crucial part of my recovery through a two month
hospital stay and two brain surgeries just like Joe Yep,
listening to it with my husband kept me connected and engaged
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reflected my third rebirth day, I can honestly say that recovery
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Unknown: John C Dvorak Bakelite. Hi. He's an OTG kind of guy.
Everybody I don't like a button chemicals in the water. It's
that turn the friggin frogs. Gay.
Adam Curry: Wrong. That's the wrong. You've got karma. That
wasn't Peterson. That was just a wrong that wasn't Peterson.
That's wrong. I don't know what happened to him. Peterson That's
wrong. That's wrong. No, we don't have that anymore. For
some reason. Oh, noes.
Unknown: Oh, in fact,
John C. Dvorak: here it is. Of course.
Adam Curry: You knew it was coming. That's wrong. Boom. Wow.
Did you just as an aside, did you see the latest podcasts from
his daughter and Peterson together? No. Yes. So she did a
family update, but it's her and her dad. And he looks pretty,
pretty good. And they're in Bulgaria. And they tell the
story of what happened. And oh my god, I mean, it's it's it's
crazy what they went through. And he's still not out of the
woods. But but just the spoiler let
John C. Dvorak: happen. You know, I don't know any of this
would happen. I know. He gets Yeah, so
Adam Curry: his his wife got, you know, basically cancer that
was incurable. And apparently he had already been on SSRIs for
about 10 years. But then all this grief and a lot of things
were happening and so he was prescribed benzos which is you
know, the benzo? I don't know the full proper name. But it's
basically it helps you get to sleep and lowers anxiety. A lot
of people are on this. Here's the thing that we now learn from
the Petersons about benzos. At diazepam, de Aza Pam is an
example. So anything that ends in Pam is probably going to be a
benzo there, yes, there's a mental addiction that is
possible. But the actual physical dependency is insane.
And if you try to stop and you don't taper off, I wasn't
prepared for this. But there's something called a kinesys or
something. And it feels like like you don't know, if you want
to stand up, sit down, you rock back and forth, which reminded
me of Bill Gates. And, and you can feel like your skin is
burning, and it's this horrible, horrible state, and you and you
and you can't stop it, unless you continue to take the benzos
and it's just a never ending story. And then on top of that,
they leave us with the fact that Keith ledger, Whitney Houston,
Michael Jackson, men, and Nicole Smith, they all died with benzos
in their system. So it's something that needs to be
looked at. It could actually be worse than opioids, it could be
could be so anyway, it's something to be seen. It's in
the show notes. I just love the clips or anything. terrible,
horrible. It's really really but man, that daughter what an
angel. She took him around the world Moscow in the middle of a
pan endemic who says she was not gonna let her dad die I'm very
impressed and I hope I get the same treatment from my kid
John C. Dvorak: why What do you got going on?
Adam Curry: No I am worried if I ever needed it ever needed it's
no of course nothing going on.
John C. Dvorak: Well Alex lures next on the list Associate
Executive producer from Kill Devil Hills in North Carolina
tuna $34.58. In the morning, you both tis I Aleksey ignite films
a Hollywood southern Hollywood outfit you know anything maybe I
can come down I can you know just play a bar key by Capet I'm
a cashier at a store John's lucky shoot um,
Adam Curry: have you never had a big part in anything?
John C. Dvorak: I've been in a couple of TV little things,
Adam Curry: but you want to be in a motion picture you want to
be in a property that's on the big screen on the big screen the
silver screen your name and lights.
John C. Dvorak: As my father mentioned, we will be hosting
the first ever Outer Banks in North Carolina meet up and we
couldn't be more excited a quick note for attendees. Don't bring
blankets or water just bring your cash. This is the cash only
bar we look forward to a totally hinged evening of beers
conversation and general debauchery. John Adams Thank you
for keeping our amygdala small and our third eyes unsheathed
Amen fist bump give me some of that sweet sweet karma Alex
Brewer Oak Hill Devil Hills, North Carolina.
Unknown: Hey man fist bump.
You've got karma.
Adam Curry: Now what is this? We go from Alex brewer to Arthur
Brewer.
John C. Dvorak: Arthur Brewer. Is anvil Tennessee.
Adam Curry: I must be oh look at the numbers so they did
John C. Dvorak: 23457 Hello.
Adam Curry: I think they wanted to have his dad first. He should
have had the five eight instead of the five seven.
John C. Dvorak: Well, here we go ITM jazz fourth time producer
longtime listener love to show no agenda is indeed the best
podcast in the universe. I would like to shamelessly plug our
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join fellow producers and our son Alex brewer in hosting the
meetup. Hope to meet some other free thinkers, drink some beers
and have a great time anyways. Anyways, take care and keep on
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Adam Curry: future. Not fugitive.
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Adam Curry: one take everybody but she did ask for some karma.
Then she said she didn't I want to make sure she gets in just in
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So I feel obliged to say that the happy hair formula.com is
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John C. Dvorak: just like the T shirts. nap for humanity.
Adam Curry: This. There's some other guys who were talking
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think?
John C. Dvorak: Well, a couple of things.
Adam Curry: Do I hear an exit strategy we
John C. Dvorak: had we had a no agenda beer out of Australia as
you recall. Yes, that's true. Yeah. And it had our logo with a
kind of a logo on it. And we've had other products that all the
T shirts are done by this shop and got the logo all over I
don't see why as a prop YT all of a sudden we hate coffee.
Adam Curry: I don't I would like to test the taste the coffee
before becomes official no agenda coffee is that
John C. Dvorak: now that's different now, I will I will say
this. I will agree with that show. We need a couple of pounds
of coffee and then we you can put Yeah,
Adam Curry: I mean a little micro brew from Australia man.
By the way, it wasn't even that micro made it all the way to the
US it was selling it was
John C. Dvorak: a monster. It's a big he's actually a big
microbrewery
Adam Curry: a big micro brewery fantastic. Yeah, it
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Unknown: our formula is this we go out for yet people in the
mouth
John C. Dvorak: I caught it just this last week Christopher Ray
gave a lecture at the Hudson
Adam Curry: Hudson Institute now wait Christopher Ray, is he the
FBI boss now? Yeah, he's
John C. Dvorak: the FBI box.
Adam Curry: Was this guy a part? I'm always confused. Was he a
part of the scam with Comey was he in that group was the one of
the the cronies running around. I
John C. Dvorak: mean, not that anyone can tell he came in late
in the game, Trump brought him in put him in there. He hasn't,
you know, it hasn't busted, you know, gone through and audited
the FBI or anything but he's definitely on board with this
antha which is not anti but this China's stuff Ah, good. And so
he gives a lecture here and this is a little long, it's got
there's six parts to it. But it's a couple of them are short,
a couple of them are long, unfortunately. But it's so good.
Because he names names he names cases and a lot of the stuff
we'd never heard about the the M five M doesn't discuss it to any
extreme. Like they remember every time there was a terrorist
some dumb screw, you know, some low IQ guys in Florida, if you
recall, it will blow up the White House. And they you know,
they bless these guys
Adam Curry: on the six week cycle over it. Of course, when
when it's
John C. Dvorak: not over any of this, what you're going to hear
here is all set for a couple items is fairly new to me. And
the media doesn't cover because the media as we as you mentioned
earlier, is controlled by the Chinese, the CCP for sure. And
so we're gonna hear a little bit about how it how controlling
they are with the dead. This went on for a good maybe an
hour. I only have like, you know, maybe 10 minutes of it.
But I tried to pull out the best stuff. This is Ray on China
Hudson Institute one,
Unknown: the greatest long term threat to our nation's
information and intellectual property. And to our economic
vitality is the counterintelligence and economic
espionage threat from China is a threat to our economic security
and by extension to our national security. As National Security
Adviser, O'Brien said in his recent remarks, we cannot close
our eyes and years to what China's doing. And today, in
light of the importance of this threat, I will provide more D
detail on the Chinese threat and the FBI has ever presented nice
in an open forum. This threat is so significant that the Attorney
General and the Secretary of State will also be addressing a
lot of these issues in the next few weeks,
Adam Curry: which is true. Pompeo just did this huge thing
on Ingraham show all about China. I didn't clip it for
today, because we're already full. But yeah, there's a
definite push from the administration doing this. But
if you think these issues
Unknown: are just an intelligence issue, or a
government problem, or a nuisance, largely just for big
corporations who can largely take care of themselves, you
could not be more wrong. It's the people of the United States
who are the victims of what amounts to Chinese theft on a
scale so massive, that it represents one of the largest
transfers of wealth in human history, if you're an American
adult, is more likely than not that China has stolen your
personal data. In 2017, the Chinese military conspired to
hack Equifax and made off with the sensitive personal
information of 150 million Americans, we're talking nearly
half of the American population and most American adults. And as
I'll discuss in a few moments, this was hardly a standalone
incident. Our data isn't the only thing at stake here. So our
health, our livelihoods, and our security. We've now reached the
point where the FBI is opening a new China related
counterintelligence case about every 10 hours.
Adam Curry: This is interesting. We probably didn't hear about
this, because the news broke on February 10 2020. Which, and
it's all over when you see it. Equifax breach how Chinese armor
army hackers allegedly stole it's all about the China's stole
America's personal data. I don't recall this at all. Of course,
we were probably looking at Corona. At that
John C. Dvorak: point, is this a recent hack? Because the Equifax
hack is as I recall, it was two years ago.
Adam Curry: Yes. But this is this is the they filed an
indictment against China.
John C. Dvorak: Oh, no. We know about the hack from two years
ago, because we discussed it on the show.
Adam Curry: Yes. Well, we didn't know. We didn't have a China.
No, we did. Well, it's in the news. But it was never report.
And
John C. Dvorak: you're right. It was never clear. It was China.
And by the way,
Adam Curry: that's interesting that well, reminder that we
signed a deal with China in January, which of course,
they're full of crap when signing it. So who knows it was
not intended to be brought out to the front. Whatever it is no
major headlines. I don't see a New York Times article about it,
that's for sure.
John C. Dvorak: No, this stuff is everything you're gonna hear
in these five clips expressing is suppressed. And this is the
head of the FBI who and I don't know that he goes out and on the
speaking tour, ever. I mean, he comes to the Hudson Institute,
and he does this long talk where he's and I'm only like I say
clipping parts of there's a lot of stuff in here. I would
recommend people go look it up and go listen for themselves.
It's quite interesting. But it's definitely interesting. So the
next clip would be zero to one here. No, you
Adam Curry: have a two optional Yeah. To
John C. Dvorak: the two this is an optional clip but I don't you
want to hear it is just a short one minute. This is a this was a
not as good a clip as the rest of the
Unknown: nearly 5000 active FBI counterintelligence cases. Oh,
yeah, horrible clip.
Adam Curry: I don't want to listen to it.
Unknown: currently underway across the country, almost half,
are all related to China. And at this very moment, China is
working to compromise American healthcare organizations,
pharmaceutical companies, and academic institutions conducting
essential COVID-19 research, we need to be clear eyed about the
scope of the Chinese government's ambition. China,
the Chinese Communist Party believes it's in a generational
fight to surpass our country in economic and technological
leadership. That's sobering enough. But it's waging that
fight, not through legitimate innovation, not through fair and
lawful competition and not by giving their citizens the
freedom of thought and speech and creativity that we treasure
here in the United States. Instead, China is engaged in a
whole estate effort to become the world's only superpower by
any means necessary.
Adam Curry: Wow, this is a great talk and it's good because the
only people I hear bitching about it is podcasters and
YouTubers, even not even the youtubers honestly It was nice
nice to hear it from some authority for once
John C. Dvorak: yeah the youtubers that would bitch about
this are getting being different taken off exactly Okay, let's go
to this is the the harried discusses the $1,000 program.
Now this is we do know a little bit about this and here we go
through its
Unknown: Talent Recruitment programs like the so called 1000
talents program the Chinese government tries to entice
scientists to secretly bring our knowledge and innovation back to
China, even if that means stealing proprietary
information, or violating our export controls, and conflict of
interest rules. Take the case of scientists Han Jin tan, for
example, a Chinese national and American lawful permanent
resident, he applied to China's 1000 talents program and stole
more than 1 billion. That's what the be worth of trade secrets
from his former employer, an Oklahoma based petroleum company
and got caught. A few months ago he was convicted and sent to
prison boards then there's the case of Shan chi, a Texas based
scientist also sentenced to prison earlier this year, she
stole trade secrets regarding syntactic foam and important
naval technology used in submarines. She too had applied
to China's 1000 talents program and specifically pledged to
digest and absorb the relevant technology in the United States.
He did this on behalf of Chinese state owned enterprises which
ultimately planned to put the American company out of business
and take over the market. And one of the more galling and
egregious aspects of the scheme, the conspirators actually
patented in China the very manufacturing process they'd
stolen and then offered their victim American company, a joint
venture using its own stolen technology. We're talking about
an American company that spent years and millions of dollars
Euro dollars developing that technology, and China couldn't
replicate it. So instead, it paid to have it stolen. And just
two weeks ago, how Jong was convicted of economic espionage
theft of trade secrets, and conspiracy for stealing
proprietary information about wireless devices from two US
companies. One of those companies had spent over 20
years developing the technology to junk stole. These cases were
among more than 1000 investigations The FBI has into
China's actual and attempted theft of American technology.
And that's not even talking about the more than 1000 other
ongoing counterintelligence investigations of other kinds
related to China
Adam Curry: kind of makes makes you happy that we blocked the
Huawei 5g systems in the United States. When you hear all this,
John C. Dvorak: I have always believed when I first ran into
Huawei, which is probably in his early days they had do when
Comdex was still a viable when it was at an actual conference
which ended they there was a Huawei booth, I believe in early
one. And I went in there, curious about these, this
operation. And they, that was pretty much I wasn't kind of
kind of thrown out. But as soon as I walked, when I walked in,
there was a whole there was a scattering, they scattered
around. And next thing you know, some boss came out to ask me
what I was what I wanted to know. And it was very creepy. I
found the company to be off putting to say the least. And
I've always been convinced that they just ripped off Cisco or
Juniper that these companies are companies. It never made any
sense to me otherwise. But now anyway, onward with this with
this. And by the way, again, a lot is being skipped. And we're
gonna go on to clip forward talks about academia, which
seems to be a real target.
Unknown: It's a troublingly Similar story in academia.
Through Talent Recruitment programs like the 1000 talents
program I mentioned just a few moments ago, China pays
scientists at American universities to secretly bring
our knowledge and innovation back to China, including
valuable federally funded research. To put it bluntly,
this means American taxpayers are effectively footing the bill
for China's own technological development. China then
leverages its ill gotten gains to undercut US research
institutions and companies, blunting our nation's
advancement and costing American jobs. And we're seeing more and
more of these cases. CES. In May alone, we arrested both Ching
Wong, a former researcher with the Cleveland Clinic who worked
on molecular medicine and the genetics of cardiovascular
disease. And Simon saw Tiangong at University of Arkansas
scientists doing research for NASA. Both of these guys were
allegedly committing fraud by concealing their participation
in Chinese Talent Recruitment programs while accepting
millions of dollars in American federal grant funding. That same
month, former Emory University Professor Xiao Zhi Ying li pled
guilty to filing a false tax return for failing to report the
income he'd received through China's 1000 talents program.
Our investigation found that while he was researching
Huntington's disease at Emory, he was also pocketing a half a
million unreported dollars from China. In a similar vein,
Charles Lieber Chair of Harvard's Department of
Chemistry and Chemical Biology was indicted just last month for
making false statements to federal authorities about his
1000 talents participation. The United States has alleged that
libre concealed from both Harvard and the NIH his position
as a strategic scientist at a Chinese University, and the fact
that the Chinese government was paying him through the Wuhan
Institute of Technology, a $50,000 monthly stipend, more
than $150,000 in living expenses and more than $1.5 million to
establish a laboratory back in China.
Adam Curry: It's amazing how Fauci kind of skirts all of
this. He paid he made sure that they got paid that the lab got
set up, he got the gain of function down there. I mean,
when does that guy get in trouble? Oh, I'm sorry. Never.
John C. Dvorak: Well, you don't know that. True. But he's not
he's got such a high profile, it'd be hard to bust him but
they did goes on and on. But the number that keeps cropping up in
in not in all the clips, but I've but throughout the
speeches, the Chinese are dropping a half a million
dollars a year for these people to these people's they're very
people are corruptible at that amount of money. Yes, it's gonna
take an awful lot of work by our by the FBI and the CIA, which
and the CIA, we had to remember to remind people they lost all
most of their agents in China. I can't remember the number but it
was
Adam Curry: 12 or something at 12 It was more than that.
John C. Dvorak: But Major agents in China and also busted and
killed
Adam Curry: certainly about these cases there has been
reporting in the Washington Post New York Times about the actual
arrests, but nothing big I mean, no obviously no big television
expos A's that I'm familiar with. You know, it's all online
if you want to learn about it, but it's now of course it's
you're not going to get anything through the certainly not the US
media, maybe not others as well and we've already discussed the
the probable reasons why they own it.
John C. Dvorak: They indeed own it. Let's go to the malign
influences. An interesting term I like which is all showed show
titled malign influences of malign influence five,
Unknown: China is engaged in a highly sophisticated malign
foreign influence campaign and its methods include bribery,
blackmail, and covert deals. Chinese diplomats also used both
open naked economic pressure and seemingly independent middlemen
to push China's preferences on American officials. Just take
one all too common illustration, let's say China gets wind that
some American officials planning to travel to Taiwan thank a
governor, a state senator, a member of Congress. China does
not want that to happen because that travel might appear to
legitimize Taiwanese independence from China and
legitimizing Taiwan would of course be contrary to China's
one China policy. So what does China do? Well, China has
leverage over the American officials, constituents.
American companies, academics and members of the media all
have legitimate and understandable reasons to want
access to Chinese partners and markets. But because of the
authoritarian nature of the Chinese Communist Party, China
has immense power over those same partners and markets. So
China will sometimes start by trying to influence the American
official overtly and directly. China might openly warn that if
the American official goes ahead and takes that trip to Taiwan,
China will take it out on a company from that officials home
state by withholding the company's license to manufacture
in China that could be economically ruinous for the
company would directly pressure the American official to alter
his travel plans. and official would know that China was trying
to influence him.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I'll do the translation. And he's keep
saying China, which is interesting, because of course,
it's really the Chinese Communist Party. But
John C. Dvorak: yeah, I want to stop because there's some I did
leave out. And I noticed this and this is done on. He already
covered this. Then this was done by other speeches, I've seen
that it's almost like a little rote thing. And they say, I am
not talking about China. I'm not talking about the Chinese
people. I'm not talking about Chinese Americans. I'm only
talking about this, the Chinese Communist Party, and then it but
he uses the word China but we already know from listening
earlier that he's really talking about the CCCP so you can't call
him on that.
Adam Curry: Okay. What I was going to say is a better example
would have been Hey, you remember when China made LeBron
James their bitch that's the only example you need to hear.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, well that was that that was it. He
actually goes on this is a clip I cut a little short because he
goes on forever taking it to the next extreme. He says the next
thing you know if that doesn't work, then he they bring in
their influencers, apparently, like maybe the guy's uncle
yacht, and you may be at this Chinese state. And he's really
stressing in the overall speech, the middlemen. These are the
inbetweeners, the guys that are just Hey, Bill, how you doing?
Oh, yeah, I think we should do with China's wrong Oh, you
shouldn't go there. Just these people that are your friends.
And just like, it's almost very similar to what the was going on
in the 50s with the fellow travelers. You know, these
people that were representing the Russian communists, but they
didn't seem that they were and they would deny it if you ask
Adam Curry: I'm insulted. I'm a little pissed off about all
this. Here I am the pod father reaccredited. On the Joe Rogan
show, where his wares at least attempt to bribe me. Nothing
Chinese
John C. Dvorak: hate podcasts.
Adam Curry: Not like not even an offer not even a hooker nothing.
Just a taste. No hookers no blow. Where are you, China? I'm
waiting. I'm ready. I'm the pod father have influence.
John C. Dvorak: Onward with this would be part six. This is
talking about Fox hunt, which is something we have talked about
on the show and rate it talks about it. Yuri introduces it and
then he has a question and answer where he talks about some
more and that'll be our last clip.
Unknown: Since 2014. Chinese General Secretary Xi Jinping has
spearheaded a program known as Fox hunt. China describes Fox
hunt as some kind of international anti corruption
campaign it is not. Instead, Fox Hunt is a sweeping bid by
General Secretary Xi to target Chinese nationals whom he sees
as threats and who live outside of China across the world. We're
talking about political rivals, dissidents and critics seeking
to expose China's extensive human rights violations.
Hundreds of these foxhunt victims that they target live
right here in the United States, and many are American citizens,
or green card holders. The Chinese government wants to
force them to return to China and China's tactics to
accomplish that are shocking. For example, when it couldn't
locate one Foxconn target, the Chinese government sent an
emissary to visit the targets family here in the United
States. The message they said to pass on target had two options,
returned to China properly or commit suicide. And what happens
when Foxconn targets refused to turn to China. In the past,
their family members, both here in the United States and China
have been threatened and coerced. And those back in China
have even been arrested. for leverage. I will take this
opportunity to know that if you believe the Chinese government
is targeting you that you're a potential foxhunt victim, please
reach out to your local FBI field office.
Adam Curry: And if you want to be a fox on victim, can we also
reach out?
John C. Dvorak: Wow. Now, this is interesting because this
reflects what the M five M has done when they give us a picture
of the CCCP which is that she is supposedly cracking down on
corruption and bureaucratic corruption all the rest of it.
And Fox Hunt is a scam as a smokescreen, and it's never
really discussed in the fact that it's trying to just, you
know, shut people up and you know, get them back to China if
they can so they can arrest them, or whatever and is
explained a little more. In this next clip, which is the mood he
sat down with the Hudson Institute guy and they had a
look chat after the speech. And a question came up about Fox and
I thought it was a good way to finish this.
Unknown: Well, in terms of the prevalence of the Fox on
efforts, I think we've seen hundreds just here in the United
States, hundreds of you could call them target, you could call
them victims, frankly, hundreds of individuals that the Chinese
government is trying to reach and coerce. It also is
happening, as I said, in my speech, and other countries,
too, in terms of the tactics, it's a variety of means of
coercion. We've had situations where, you know, they show up
and make comments about, you know, their family members back
home in China, in a way that was pretty unmistakably threatening.
But it's, you know, if you use your imagination, you're not
going to be far off.
And have we been working with other governments to try to
counter this, again, from the readers? And watchers? Well, we
certainly
have worked with with a lot of our good foreign partners to
compare notes, best practices, and so forth to try to combat
the fox hunt. threat. But there's another part of
coordination that's important here. I mean, at one level, you
can there is a established means there are established processes
for foreign law enforcement to cooperate with each other.
Right, legitimate foreign cooperation happens all the time
all over the world. And there's a way you do that. And you
coordinate with law enforcement in the country that the person
is in. That's not what foxhunt is, these people are essentially
engaged in Rogue law enforcement, unsanctioned
uncoordinated with US law enforcement here in the United
States. And that really exposes what this is really about, which
is suppressing dissent, and trying to pressure dissidents
and critics.
Adam Curry: Yeah, and
John C. Dvorak: CCP or Chinese police coming over here. Sure.
Unknown: Sure. And
Adam Curry: this is so wrong in so many ways. I'm glad we have
an enemy though. It's good to have one. I like this enemy
better than me. Oh, Tali Baran, or al Qaeda or ISIS?
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, those guys are these
Adam Curry: these the CCP? What's happened here over these
John C. Dvorak: guys make these guys or make them look like
little training wheels. Raised off cookies. It's
Adam Curry: a couple of other CCP items. Pope Francis. On
Sunday, I guess it was Sunday had Gavan and jealous, which is
a you know, it's a little thing you say like this is coming from
from, from God's mouth to to my mouth to your ears.
Interestingly, someone who had a, an embargoed version of it,
noticed that the Pope did not or actually removed the entire 150
word paragraph about Hong Kong. What's going on right now?
John C. Dvorak: Remember that explain this.
Adam Curry: Okay. So you have to remember in the context of a
couple shows ago, that there is we had the China expert, who
said that the CCP has been giving the Vatican $2 billion a
year. And the 2 billion is mainly to not make any waves
about China to let them create some fake Catholicism in China.
That is not Catholicism. Meanwhile, driving everybody
underground basically shut up and play along, which is why
this guy is Pope in the first place because we know he's a
damn shill. And I said damn on purpose. So the pope had written
this whole and jealous to deliver. Then when he delivered
it, he left out the 150 words about Hong Kong and how that's
all messed up there though because
John C. Dvorak: because he's convenient.
Adam Curry: That's one way to look at it. Or Holy crap,
corrupt. Well, I've also hopes gotta go.
Unknown: Really smitten.
Adam Curry: I have here's here's a serious question. Why is it
it's not about the CCP. Why is it the Chinese always seem to be
obsessed with consuming weird anime wolves that make their
penis briger Bigger. What is what is this obsession?
John C. Dvorak: Japanese have this too.
Adam Curry: Oh, the I guess they do what they do rhino horn or
whatever?
John C. Dvorak: Well there's if you go at the thing, you learned
a little bit about this when you're in Taiwan and go to snake
alley. And you get lectured about some of the people that
are partaking in the imbibing of crazy,
Adam Curry: crazy. Crazy. It is crazy.
John C. Dvorak: I want to play a little aside here just to
mention it because we don't talk about him on the show. We don't
clip him. So I told me to clip and this was just once. Okay,
Stephen Molyneux. Ah,
Adam Curry: Mr. Mr. Hodge been deep platformed from everything
now.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I want to I want to play this and I have a
comment.
Unknown: This is Stefan Molyneux, as you may have heard
14 years of my life 1000s of videos, billions of comments,
hundreds of millions of views and nearly a million subscribers
has been destroyed, has been erased. From YouTube, the
accusation is the usual one that I am fomenting violence and
hatred and so on, which is not true at all. I have consistently
promulgated the non Aggression Principle and call to reason and
evidence as the methodology by which we can resolve social
disputes in differences.
Adam Curry: Okay, so he's saying
John C. Dvorak: he went on and on and he had a plug for some
Patreon page or something. Yes. Now he? I don't know about you.
Now. He's, he says 1000 videos have been lost forever.
Adam Curry: Yeah, he guess he didn't save them. But I think
maybe more important is the comments on the YouTube. You
know,
John C. Dvorak: I understand that's true. But that's not what
he said. He said, 1000 videos, and has been lost forever. And
I'm thinking you don't, you have to have the video on your person
at one point, because you have to upload it. So is he uploading
his videos and then erasing them from his own machines? You
should ask them leaving it up to YouTube to Why don't archive Why
don't
Adam Curry: you send him a tweet and ask him? Oh, I'm sorry.
John C. Dvorak: You can't? You know, it's just a question that
came to mind because it doesn't make sense to me. No, I think
Adam Curry: he's making a very sad appeal. When he was
demonetized, or whatever. Initially, it's like, Oh, it's
okay. I don't mind that Baba Baba. And you just said he was
pitching and Patreon. So I think he's laying it on thick. If he
doesn't have copies of what he posted on YouTube, then Mr.
Intellectual is an idiot. Come on. Because ridiculous. I mean,
even I have copies. But also, the nature of our value for
value system makes it so beautiful, because we don't give
a crap how many copies are out there? Then there's, we have low
vert low res versions for people in countries with no with very
poor bandwidth. It started with Australia, actually, 1012 years
ago. We've got torrin versions as versions on YouTube, the
version on YouTube with with with transcripts, it's all over
the place.
John C. Dvorak: I wonder if that low frequent that low bandwidth
Adam Curry: still around still? I think it is, I think it is.
And by its very nature, podcasting creates millions of
copies of each show. There are millions of people who have show
1257 on a device somewhere. Yeah, that's the view. That's
the hidden gem of it. So I feel bad for him, but I got very
bored of watching him probably eight years ago. It's just it
was just didn't appeal to me.
John C. Dvorak: Like he was the one of the originals at sticking
his head in front of a camera and then lecturing you about one
thing or another and he was good. It was very good. He would
he had talent. Yes. But I don't know. I don't know. I grabbed
really been watching him of late and he brought it off as
materials dropped off. I'm not sure. There's there is another
podcast I want to discuss. And I feel bad about even doing this
segment if you don't mind.
Unknown: Okay. All right.
John C. Dvorak: This is the useful idiots podcast with one
of our heroes in terms of his ability to put things together
and for progressive put things together in a in a very concise
and meaningful way. Baby.
Adam Curry: Oh, yes. Matt Taibbi, who brought us a nice
article about the white fragility book, which I'm glad
we slammed before he came out with that.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. And so he's about that, but he's also
so he's got this guy, Adolph Reid, a retired professor from
Princeton. I think we're one of the big schools and he's on and
he says a couple of crazy things. And he's in his partner
on this as Katie helper. And so I'm going to play the two clips
that I think they some one of these two should have said
something to Adolph Reid About his about his nuttiness. And
then after those two clips are done, I want to play what I
think unfortunately, I'm gonna have to say that Mattei EB is a
bully. I'm gonna prove it. Oh, and he does something that I've
tried to do with you a couple of times, and I feel bad listening
to him to actually accomplish it. But I wouldn't have I would
not have let it I would have not hung you out to dry? Like he
does does with his partner here. Oh, my goodness. That's the
third clip. Wow, you're gonna have to I'll explain it to him.
First, we got to start with these. This is Adolph read. Part
one, this is the setup, you have to know listen carefully.
Unknown: I think we're kind of screwed either way, frankly,
right. If if Trump wins or stays in office, he might come and
kill us. I'm just hoping that those kids who post post all
their wild stuff on Instagram or tweet it all the time, we'll go
in the first wave so that some of the rest of us will have time
to grab a toothbrush and head to Canada, right.
Adam Curry: Okay, this isn't anti Trump or who was gonna move
to Canada when Trump was he's a
John C. Dvorak: curious guy cuz he's the anti BLM. He's very, he
has a lot
Adam Curry: of his name is Adolf.
John C. Dvorak: Adolf is the history. He's a black guy. You
can't tell it from his voice. But he he's got a lot of good
analysis. But then he throws this out of the blue this we got
to head to Katie, they're gonna kill me, which is kind of like
the joke clip I had from Scott Adams. Right said Biden's gonna
kill us. Right, right. So somebody's gonna kill somebody.
Adam Curry: Well, this is Trump and Trump people because he's
black, and they're gonna kill them. That's, that's now what I
understand.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, so you got that? Right. So 20 minutes
later, in the same interview, he doubles down. Here it is
Adam Curry: sorry. Go
Unknown: short. totally joking. When I say that, I think Trump
Trump will kill us. Right. I mean, he would like to, and from
that perspective, I think the most you can hope for from a
Democratic administration is some time, right? recommend
buying, buying, buying some time, a Supreme Court
appointment or to it it's not terrible. Some better
appointments on the National Labor Relations Board, right?
Some TVs, OSHA, something like that. Right? Right. But the
problem is, you know, we didn't elect our way into this
situation. And we're not going to like the way out of it. And
we have to finally act like a left that understands organizing
as being something different from event planning.
John C. Dvorak: That's a good line. That is a good line is a
good line, but he's rational, rational and then towards the
end, neither tie a B or helper say anything about this.
Insanity. It's insane to think that but okay. We'll let that
slide. So meanwhile, they finish up with the guy and they wrap it
knee. And tie AB reflects on the fact that at the beginning of
the interview, which I don't have on here, they had an Tybee
and Reid had talked about sports and North Carolina basketball
and man Tiger is obviously a guy who likes sports, he talks about
sports, he knows a lot about sports. He's one of those guys I
can talk to him sure about a lot of stuff like this helper is
kind of like you doesn't know anything about sports
whatsoever. But in this case, Ty EB starts to feed her some bogus
information and instead of telling her recognizing it, like
you would, by the way, some of the stupidity of it, she buys
into it and as far as I'm concerned to ruins your rep
reputation as a podcast analyst somebody does analyzes news from
it she's a lefty and she she is takes it in hook line and sinker
and believes it she shows that she's gullible as hell and tie a
beak stretches this out this is actually a pretty long painful
clip and in at the very end he never says I was just kidding he
No no, they just end the show. And I don't know what happens
after that when she finally finds out that he's full of
crap. And we'll let's listen how this unfolds. Great.
Unknown: was denied. sports fan. That's hilarious.
I know. Yeah.
I wanted to spend the entire time talking about dude Carolina
games, but by the way, since we have you on camera, we got to
ask you what's your what's your take on the Cam Newton
situation?
Cam Newton. Cam Newton. Good old Cam Newton is a very good
football player.
And you didn't just find that out.
I've known this in my bones for a while. Hey, Cam Newton, I
think I didn't know he was a football player cam Nunes, a
football player. And the big news, of course, is that he just
replays Tom Brady as a cheater,
such a cheater.
You can keep the other stuff in and embarrass me. Okay? Matt
really wants to humiliate me as if anyone thinks I'm really good
sports. Okay. So so Cam Newton, of course, of course, as
everyone knows that,
Adam Curry: wait a minute. So she just said, I don't know
about it, whatever. And now she's going to tell us about it
because she can read it from Wikipedia or something.
John C. Dvorak: Well, she sees a little bit on the screen and now
she's now she is basically winging it. She's She's. She's
acting like a 12 year old who's answering you could do instead
of saying, I don't know, anything that you wish you
should have done. I don't know anything about this. I don't
like football. I don't follow it. She can say I don't like it.
A lot of people don't like football. And I don't care. I
don't care about Cam Newton weathers here or there. Next she
calls Cam Newton, the new coach doesn't know what a quarterback
is. And then now then it goes off the rails. It was insanity.
And this woman should check herself.
Unknown: So So Cam Newton Of course. Of course, as everyone
knows, the great football player has just replaced has just
replaced Tom Brady, as the coach of the football team, and
football team known as the Manhattan refresh my memory.
The Cleveland unicorns?
Are you serious? Funny, because Adolph Reid mentioned that, you
know, we there's actually a team called unicorns.
Unicorns, yeah.
Really cool. Like, isn't that very? I feel like it's very
illness. Yeah, I mean, unicorns are very feminized, for better
or for worse, and I feel like that it's kind of
a it's an a, it's a very aggressive, uniform, uniform
helmet. Yeah. Okay.
Yeah, it's like a ram kind of a Yukon.
Except it's it's Yeah. I mean, it's one thing Right, exactly,
but it kind of runs down the top of the helmet. Yeah. And it's
not like a
cutesy that's what I was thinking of cutesy rainbowy. I
thought it was very like, No, you know, like the,
like, spikes over
a month. It's basically Godzilla.
It's gods. It's a menacing Yeah. The Cleveland Cleveland got
unicorns. Yeah. Yeah, right. Yes, exactly.
I mean, look, Cleveland, the Cleveland unicorns they they're
known for being really they've sharpened over the years. Their
technique?
Well, they're known for their their powerful ground ground
assault.
Yeah. As opposed to the aerial bombardment. That, yeah, the New
York Giants are known for, right?
Yes, exactly.
Adam Curry: Did he ever let her off the hook from this? Did he
ever tell her that you heard on the show? No. The guys that I
was very disappointed. I love Matt Taibbi. I love his writing.
I clipped him today about the white fragility book which he
took down. This is very mean and it's very misogynistic. And it's
and it's not. So I don't know if they're really colleagues, or if
he's if he hates her Secretly, I don't know if they're in
business together. Or she paid by Rolling Stone
John C. Dvorak: tell there's just separate actors working for
Rolling Stone. Oh, okay. So
Adam Curry: he's been he's been okay. And then I might have to
take it back. But still, he's passive aggressive because he's
being forced to do this. He does not want to do those. He's being
forced to do I'll take it back. But he should be a man and step
away from Rolling Stone.
John C. Dvorak: Well, it was very disappointing. I don't go
as far as you do. But I was very disappointed that he did this.
It was it was the it was the little boy in the sixth grade
dipping the girls. Yeah, ponytails in the inkwell. Yeah,
yeah. Which is you know, which is which is okay, Boomer,
Adam Curry: something we never should mention.
John C. Dvorak: Well, I mean, I never had an equal in my life.
So this goes back to pre Boomer. Boomer image. Yeah, free.
Ballmer. Yeah, it's an image that's out there. And little
boys teasing little girls is not an unusual thing. And this and
he's, I would say he's teasing her to say the least. But this
is not the kind of thing that works. Now, in the one What's
your
Adam Curry: why you why you brought this year other than to
I don't know.
John C. Dvorak: It's interesting to hear because I'm perplexed.
That's why
Adam Curry: it is perplexing. I love what he writes. I love his
attitude, but that but he should just if he doesn't want to do
the show, then don't do the show.
John C. Dvorak: This is the problem. He's compromised
uncomfortable as a podcaster. Let's start with that.
Adam Curry: Then he shouldn't do podcast right just go right but
now. No, no, no. I'm telling you. There's something going on
with him. He certainly didn't get any money from that. The
Intercept thing he bailed out of that I think he left with
nothing.
John C. Dvorak: Now, wouldn't surprise me. Maybe he's got a
crush on this girl. I don't know. Well, she has to be
steamed up because as far as I'm concerned, I think it hurt his
reputation as a objective performer instead of bullshit
artists and have kind of had nothing really heard her because
it was like made her look like okay, she doesn't know what
she's just gonna make it up if she doesn't know. Okay,
Adam Curry: you've made your point. Let's get back to some
news. And since you steered us in the direction, I will discuss
some sports news. Oh, is the black national anthem coming up?
Being played before the before the NFL football games, although
apparently only the first week? Why do all of them because you
know, I guess insincere about black lives. But okay. And thank
goodness, Jason Whitlock, who I have brought to the show many
times has something smart to say about how dumb this is.
Unknown: I think it's really about a lack of leadership, and
just a failure of men to stand up and stand on the principles
that they say they believe in. And so when I looked at what the
NFL is doing, this goes against every value that the NFL has
built itself on. Professional sports have built themselves on
a celebration of Americana, and the ideals and values that best
exemplify America. They built themselves on unity and unifying
the country that the NFL starts out its season, with everyone
standing for Lift Every Voice and Sing the black national
anthem, and then virtually everyone on the field taking a
knee when the Star Spangled Banner plays, the NFL will run
off a nice fat chunk of its audience, and will never be seen
the same again. Because of the failure leadership throughout
the NFL. There's no way you can do any homework on Black Lives
Matters, and not see that it's a Marxist org political
organization. It's not about Black Death. It's not about
black men. It is a political move. It's a communist political
move. If for those people that stand on religious values, and
this is where I say just the failure of men. I've seen many
of these guys, they claim their Christianity and their religious
beliefs. Do they understand Black Lives Matter? Communist
Marxism is anti religious. This is a historic failure of men and
leadership. This is cowardice at its highest level. This is the
NFL jumping the shark and saying we've quit being who we said we
are weird now something else because our money is on the
line. And we don't stand for the values we said we stood for.
Adam Curry: There you go. That is going to backfire on the NFL
so bad. He's dead. Right? If I think he's right, what happens?
That's what the plan is. I don't know what they they will have to
change something. They'll have to do something about that.
John C. Dvorak: This is the one I think he was on Don Lemon.
Shawn Don Lemon shut him down when he said there was a
communist operation. No,
Adam Curry: I think that wasn't that Terry.
John C. Dvorak: Could have been a different guy that Don Lemon
shut down because he's,
Adam Curry: yeah, well, you know what that stuff is like, that's
what, right? Twitter's is tweeting. So I don't think it's
important to bring to our show. It's like yeah, we've seen Don
Lemon. I mean, once something goes viral like that. I'm not
even interested in anymore. What I am interested in lemon man.
I'm not interested in Don Lemon. Oh, well,
John C. Dvorak: what's the wait, wait. Oh, yeah. More sports, I
hope.
Adam Curry: No, I was just gonna mention you said Don Lemon. Shep
Smith is returning to television. Remember Shepard
Smith. He was the as we
John C. Dvorak: predicted he
Adam Curry: had a deal. Yep. And do you know where he's coming
back? Well, I
John C. Dvorak: was guessing NBC. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Except to start with a primetime show on CNBC.
John C. Dvorak: Which has to do with see where's he fit into
CNBC? It's a financial network
Adam Curry: after Yep. At night after Kramer it's either Shark
Tank. See there's no programming so it's going they are going to
try and blanket this as another show. They've got Joy read now
she's been given a seven P Oh,
John C. Dvorak: she's an MSNBC. Right. But she's Yes. But just
think it'd be you said CNN.
Adam Curry: Yes. But they have both then it's all NBC
properties. He will not be doing a financial NAD so that's what
I'm saying is they had they're trying to blanket it more
towards all the time.
John C. Dvorak: MTA T MTA knows they're gonna run Oh, they don't
have any you right. There's no proof goes to that. What does
that say? That's the old it was Matthew slot. Yes, yes. Yes,
yes, yes. So they gave that to joy read which and she will
she'll drop the ball and nobody likes Joy read. So she's not
going to pick up any and so they put him in at CNBC to try to
pick up I don't know who their whatever whatever buddy watching
CNBC after that well after the last closing bell boom.
Adam Curry: If they give Shark Tank as the leading they'll
probably get something Shark Tank is pretty well over there
doesn't matter he's probably on deck for Brian Williams Brian
Williams is out. I'm telling you that guy's guy you should have
been out. Yeah, this is the farm team. They're replacing him and
I think Shep Smith will be really good. And he'll be very
credible for MSNBC, because he has that right wing stingy of
Fox. So I think that's pretty good. Let's just look at some
quick noodle gun examples. So we understand what is happening
with this politically correct culture, the revolution which is
being funded by corporate America. And let's see who's in
trouble. Oh, yes. Ford employees are very angry and they look
like they might take some action. Do you know why?
John C. Dvorak: Black Lives Matter.
Adam Curry: Lows. They do not agree with Ford producing cop
cars. So they're not
John C. Dvorak: Wow, this is the best it's a really
Adam Curry: good one, isn't it? Oops, oops, oops, oops. How do
you see my noodle going on effect now one other interesting
little
John C. Dvorak: Can I before you go on with this guy you have
another comment? Whenever green hat is strong strike against one
of the you know this, professors that some other guys that got
kicked out of the school, Evergreen adapt when the kids
said no, we have to have this special day and we agree We're
protesting and evergreen, which is a cheap place to go and gives
it with a quality education. They should have expelled those
kids immediately.
Adam Curry: Yes, of course.
John C. Dvorak: Ford should fire these employees immediately.
You've got to get these people out of your company as fast as
you can and people are just oh let's just do what they say. I
mean their noodle gun got the noodle boy is that true? Oh,
managers Yeah, yes yes.
Adam Curry: Yes. Well they've they're of course in Amsterdam.
In in the your Don very famous neighborhood I live very closely
lived in it for a number of years. There's a very famous
head a sculpted head that is outside what used to be an
Apotek curry is that what it is I'm saying it right like a
drugstore we go get your pharmacy Apotek curry, a pocket
pocket pocket theory. Thank you. Yes, I can't say the carry
apothecary I can't say it because I grew up saying uptake
which is the Dutch
John C. Dvorak: version of course pocket is no big deal.
Adam Curry: Thank you store drugstore. It's called the
gatekeeper of Hyrum strat number seven. And it's been there for
hundreds hundreds of years and it represents an Arabian
medicine man who had you know the from the old scripture this
is the Arabian medicine man and and so it was used as a
marketing tool for the pocket tech but apitherapy that used to
be there. Of course it's it's called the gatekeeper because
the hopper because its mouth is the gate like ba you can even
look it up DGAP Er D newer gap er f course it looks like a
black face or African American with red lips and earrings and
so it has to go even though it has never represented that it
has nothing to do with you should look at it the gape at
the Cape it's not by the way do not mistake that with Goetze
it's
John C. Dvorak: a gave me the spelling again
Adam Curry: de space gap er is that should hit just by that the
father and then look at the look at the pictures. Oh yeah, it
pops up right away from me. So you should see it Oh yeah. Oh,
yeah. So that's just as good as That's racist.
John C. Dvorak: Tracy see two of them. I see actually three of
them I see one with well, they're
Adam Curry: all over the place. They're all over the countries
like a major thing but this is the first one to go so of course
they're all gonna go and I've liked
John C. Dvorak: them. Even a black person doesn't matter.
Well, I guess not when they take down elk.
Adam Curry: Elk, hey, they also burned Melania statue in
Lithuania or wherever she's from? Why? Because she's
hateful.
John C. Dvorak: The why is why does she have a statue?
Adam Curry: Because that's where she's from? Was it? No, it's the
only see if I can find it. Slovenia. What am I saying
Slovenia, US First Lady Melania Trump statue, wooden statue of
her looking out over the fields where she's from. I burned her
the bar under
John C. Dvorak: two clicks. And ask her it's kind of a just an
offbeat question. What is this guy have this crazy look on his
face?
Adam Curry: I don't know the answer to that you should
probably look into the history of the gay paper. Maybe there's
something coming out. And he's like, whoa.
John C. Dvorak: It looks like he's been charged by a rhino.
Adam Curry: It's, it's about right. It's about right. Kudos
to Lou Dobbs, who I think had the best 16 second comment of
the week when it comes to cancel culture. Black Lives Matter and
our noodle gun. Breaking news. Now
Unknown: the folks at the Washington Post running an op ed
it's titled quote, both namesakes of Washington and Lee
University perpetrated racial terror. The school should be
renamed. Again this from the Washington Post
Adam Curry: it's so hilarious.
John C. Dvorak: You can't that was a good debt definitely is I
make he's gonna give you a clip of the day for digging that up.
Adam Curry: Well, I got I got very lucky on that one. But I
appreciate whoever whoever dug it. Oh, that was you know, that
was stack. Stack. X. We have the best producers and since
John C. Dvorak: they have not given me stuff B couple years
ago now yours exclusive. I've been his stack he gets once you
get a room.
Adam Curry: I've been his boy for several years ever since. I
think it was well, I'm not going to know if that's between you
and stek. I have nothing to do with your personal issues. Stack
and I have a wonderful producer producer relationship. One more
ever use one more before we take a break. So we had the big
meeting the big meeting stop hate for profit, the ad boycott,
they all went to the face bag headquarters to sit down with
Mark and what's their name, leaning forward to name
Sandberg, Sheryl, Sheryl Sandberg and leading this charge
because at the bottom of the end, it's the Jolly Green
giant's what does the name Sleeping Giants there they were
there and all these different people but it appears leading
the charge. And again, it doesn't really hurt Facebook
that much. We've learned these big brands don't want to
advertise. But this does show you kind of the state of
affairs, as it is the anti Defamation League who was truly
leading this stop hate for trough for profit ad boycott
against the face bags. And it's worse, listening to the spokes
whole talk about the meeting.
Unknown: I think the meeting was disappointing to say the least.
You know, we had laid out an agenda weeks ago. For Facebook.
Our recommendations are simple and straightforward and
transparent. They've been published on our website since
mid June. Facebook asked us for this meeting. And we expected
them to share details and timeframes to execute on those
recommendations. Instead, we didn't get any details. We
didn't get any timeframes, no commitments, no outcomes, like
instituting real civil rights leadership in the C suite of the
company. So these issues are strategically integrated across
Adam Curry: we need a chief Civil Rights Officer at
Facebook, this is fantastic what they're asking for
Unknown: the company. So these issues are strategically
integrated across the organization. We want
transparent, regular, independent audits of hate
content on the platform. And this is really critical. They
will report on how much hate content had taken off. But all
it is is a numerator with no denominator with no independent
verification. So we have little evidence of what progress
they're really making. And I will say that they shared with
us today something we've heard before that their AI, you know,
eliminates 89% of the hate content on their platform. But
to be really honest with you, Ford Motor Company, one of the
participants and stop a for profit. They can't say 89% of
our seatbelts work.
Adam Curry: This is where Facebook is screwed itself. They
had all the test to fit. Zuckerberg officer was
testifying before Congress. AI will take care of it. We have
some teams in the meantime, AI can find it. You can't find HATE
YOU LITTLE dweeb, defy. Defining and finding hate with artificial
intelligence is too subjective. Everything is hate these days,
there's no way you can do it. And now the end anti Defamation
League is waiting for you to fill in the other 13% that you
can't change, which you can never change. It's impossible.
Unknown: But look, this is a red herring at best and really
misleading at worst, for starters, 89% of what they
define as problematic. That's problematic. But I don't want
Mark Zuckerberg to telling me what's in bounds or out of
bounds.
Adam Curry: Oh, we want the anti Defamation League to tell us
apparently,
Unknown: the fact of the matter is Facebook should do better
than 89%. In the same way, all of their businesses, all their
advertisers know that when it comes to fighting, hey, you got
to be 100%
Adam Curry: They're toast. There's no way that can ever be
most. You can't you can't do you can't you can even determine
what hate is. If there be an actual law against it. If you
could, you can determine fate.
John C. Dvorak: Well, who's toast again? Let's hear this
again. I want to hear this again. Who's toast?
Adam Curry: Zuckerberg Xhaka, Wasser this toast, someone's
going to have to step down when they can't do it. They want they
want the civil rights person in the C suite. So you have CEO
Chief Executive Officer Chief Technology Officer Chief
Operations Officer, Chief Civil Rights Officer, maybe just CRO
chief rights officer, but that would conflict with Chief
Revenue Officer officer. No, no, this is not going to this won't
work out. Well. I mean, sure the company is gonna be great. I'll
go on forever. But do you really want the anti Defamation League
yapping at your heels for the rest of your life?
John C. Dvorak: He's gonna have to worm his way out of this
somehow. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Yeah, by the way, he speaks fluent Mandarin.
John C. Dvorak: Well, you know there is that element is real
heavy. Yeah.
Adam Curry: I didn't want to say I did not I was not going to
pull the old his wife is probably a spy for the CCP. But
now that you mention it.
John C. Dvorak: I didn't say anything. I just said his wife.
Adam Curry: Okay, I said it. I'm gonna show my son move by donate
to no agenda.
Unknown: Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah,
that'd be
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Unknown: you need deuced
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John C. Dvorak: don't like the word merch. No.
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is like a party and it was a big party at the mid Island meet up
we have a report
Unknown: I'm gonna throw to our resident night in house at the
mid Island Canada avian meet up sir candidate AV.
I've traveled 15 hours and took a ferry to get here because Adam
actually watches the view for me. And that's invaluable
in the morning everybody this is Tom, I noticed that this mid
Island candidate via meetup it's been a huge success. We've just
been chatting anything we want to at this table. It's been
great. A little walk down the effects still affecting us. But
whatever. We're all here we're having a good time and I want to
pass it on to Nat
in the morning man McDonald's here from the Nymo 10 minutes
down the road.
This is certainly haven't donated enough. And I just want
to say that just Lane Maxwell did not kill herself.
This is Russ from Arrington, I was half an hour to get here and
I'm having a hell of a good time. I have no idea what these
guys are talking about. But it's just been struck in the mouth
several times. And it feels good. Loving Life peace and
happiness.
Adam Curry: I just figured it out. I know what part of the big
appeal is with the meetups. I think and just hearing these and
every meetup I've been to is similar when people who don't
know each other, but we all have something in common. And we may
not all believe the same thing. But I think the secret to the
success of the meetups is that we allow ourselves to be awkward
and clumsy. seriously think about it. Everyone in that clip
is somehow awkward and clumsy but the same and everyone's just
kind of we it's some it's a very gracious type of thing i i still
can't completely explain it. But with that in mind is like
everyone can come in and see They say something weird or
funky or off color or whatever it is and it's like it's okay
man we're just the be clumsy be awkward whatever. I don't know
maybe just maybe just me. I thought that was just kind of
hit me. I guess you you don't know. You don't have any
opinion.
John C. Dvorak: I I guess I have no opinion. Maybe that maybe
you're right. I don't know. I've never thought about it.
Adam Curry: Alright, here's the list of meetups coming for to
see tomorrow we have the Northeast Ohio meetup at six
o'clock at the winking lizard never heard the wink. Actually
that will be a dame had real
Unknown: a real bar. Yes, the ranking ranking lizard
Adam Curry: Dame Ashley Lady of the Lake who will be there at
the at the winking lizard and Earl Walkman and the keeper
penance and the keeper will be there as well. The keeper of
Peninsula Ohio I presume Seattle Washington also a meet up on
Friday. That'll be the lookout Bar and Grill with Patrick
organizing Saturday and Sunday. This is Road America IndyCar
doubleheader weekend. You want to meet up at Elkhart Lake in
Wisconsin Todd squid Buzz is organizing that for you. Also on
Saturday that New England summer pool party 3pm in Pawtucket,
Rhode Island, where some of my family hails from Lady butter
sir knives are nesto hosting July 11. Saturday killed devils
Hills Outer Banks, North Carolina blue crab tavern, we
heard it earlier Arthur Brewer will be there along with Alex.
And then for next Sunday the Anning Alexandria Virginia meet
up at Llinas oasis that is at noon through William of the West
pencil tucky arranging that and also on Sunday mosta dome seven
o'clock Central European Summer Time in Malta central Mark Malta
at law Tartine Cafe Stu is organizing and he's looking for
people to join him. Then the final two for next Friday, the
Friday after next in Montreal, Quebec, six o'clock Pei citizen
organizing that and next Saturday, Western New York local
808 at 2pm. And Sir Road, road, Wolf road Wolf is hosting that
please go take a look at all of these meetups. They're all at no
agenda meetups.com If you don't find anything near you, or if
you'd like to set one up, that's all you have to do. Go set one
up yourself no agenda meetups.com.
Unknown: Sometimes you go hang out with
Adam Curry: me. You want to say? Like, I would like to ask you a
question. As you know, I never listened to your clips when you
send them not. That's keeps it all spontaneous. I could not
however, resist noticing that you may have clipped the white
fragility sequence of the week from the New York Board of
Education. Is that what I'm seeing?
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, well, yeah, there's a lot of in the
air. There's a lot of clips, I would actually rather put them
off till Sunday. Okay, let's do that. Tucker Carlson judges
Layne Maxwell stuff. Oh, you
Adam Curry: want to do that now?
John C. Dvorak: Well, I would rather do that and
Adam Curry: okay, because it's very good. And I'm glad because
I saw it like, okay, cuz I was gonna clip it. And I saw them
hard to
John C. Dvorak: clip very hard. So I see people yelling at each
other, but it's, but it's, I do it does. It does. I have a lot
of thoughts on it. Because it brings out Yes, and there's also
some new terminology coming out and we're hearing it a lot and
it's all going to be in there and I don't think it's better on
Sunday. Let's
Adam Curry: do one on Sunday. That is a great tease. And that
way
John C. Dvorak: I can also move Kalitta Sunday
Adam Curry: wow what a what a Sunday show was Sunday. Clipping
that one
John C. Dvorak: so I do have a Kellyanne Conway though with an
ice so that I taught my
Adam Curry: oh yeah, we can we need Yeah, we need an ice so
let's hear it. Whoa. That's a
John C. Dvorak: k a. K AC. I got it. You played it.
Adam Curry: Played it. Whoa. I played it. Okay, AC yay.
John C. Dvorak: What this is, this is what was in it.
Adam Curry: Here's K ac YAYIS Oh, whoa.
John C. Dvorak: Holy moly. I use that very rarely.
Adam Curry: Wonder what went wrong. You throw away the actual
John C. Dvorak: lesson clipped? I must have clicked the wrong
waveform because what it is we're saying yay, and sunbird
kind of a wimpy voice. Not dad. I don't even know where that
came from. It must have been well, that's heard
Adam Curry: It sounds like her going whoa were You were you
drinking the Costco wine again when during your clip in?
John C. Dvorak: I'm sorry. That's what we've got today.
Yeah, that is it. Well, let me
Adam Curry: try and save you. I have one clip left that I wanted
to play, which was not only found today but it was the Flynn
family on July 4 2020. And the Flynn fam General Flynn. Some
would say a great patriot, General Flynn and his family
took the oath and recited it all on camera, I shortened it up a
little bit, but what's most important is what he says at the
end I
Unknown: do solemnly swear
do solemnly swear,
I will support and defend that I
will support the
Constitution of the United States the
Constitution, all enemies, foreign and domestic against all
enemies, foreign and domestic. I
will bear true faith and allegiance to the same faith and
then I will well and faithfully
and then I will well and faithfully discharge the duties
of the office on which I am about to enter. About to enter
so help me God. So where we go one we go. Bless America.
Adam Curry: Where we go one we go all that SKU that's Q anon
slogan.
John C. Dvorak: Well, I went away threw it in there.
Adam Curry: Well, that's a almost a great question.
John C. Dvorak: Almost not quite, not
Adam Curry: quite. But holy crap. I thought that was pretty
interesting. That's, to me, it's either the troll of the decade
or who wants a troll as a
John C. Dvorak: troll. That's what he's doing. He's guys.
havin fun at least.
Adam Curry: Well, thank goodness. So
John C. Dvorak: so just Lane Maxwell, you know, is arrested
is was the surprise it was apparently in that by the same
district where they fired the previous staff.
Adam Curry: Yeah, they got that guy out first so that he
couldn't kill her when they put her in? Whatever they were going
to do. Yeah, because she was in a safe house.
John C. Dvorak: And she was surprised that she was arrested
in the first place. But, but, but I have a setup, because the
setup is that apparently there's not there's a really good report
on 60 minutes, and 60 minutes doesn't have a lot of good
reports. Unless you watch 60 million minutes Australia. Ah,
yes. 60 minutes, Australia's dynamite. And here's a little
report, which includes an interview with Maria farmer who
was the first person that in 1996, reported everything to the
FBI, to no avail.
Unknown: Today, we announced charges against Glenn Maxwell,
for helping
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, Bronwyn. Got it.
Unknown: Maria went to the FBI. It was 1996. And she was the
very first victim to officially report Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn
Maxwell to the authorities. But in a pattern that will be set in
the decades ahead, her complaint was ignored.
They just kept it all quiet put in the bottom drawer. And
they're so dismissive, that I just felt daunted and I stopped
that by going to police, Maria felt the full force of Maxwell's
fury. Terrified Maria went into hiding, and gave up her art
career. What sort of threats are she made against you?
Originally, it started with things like I'm going to burn
your arts, and then I'm going to burn your career, and then I'm
going to burn you and the house you live in. And then it was,
Oh, be careful crossing a street. You know, you can get
shot in the back of the head. They were threats against my
life. And I told the FBI this
do you reflect on how different life would be for so many women
today? If the FBI had investigated your complaints? In
1996? Yeah.
They Yeah. I think about it all the time. I do. And it hurts a
lot. And I never had children because of it.
Adam Curry: Because they didn't feel like they would be safe. As
an aside, Maxwell is not charged with sexual abuse. She's charged
with trafficking, which makes it even more suspicious.
John C. Dvorak: It was whole thing is suspicious, but let's
listen to talk Tucker Carlson, which I don't like clipping and
you know, we don't necessarily clip them. But I have to say,
Tucker Carlson decided to take a score because he doesn't have
any sponsors and he doesn't care.
Adam Curry: Hey, don't talk like that about my pillow.com.
John C. Dvorak: So so he has a scorched earth policy and see if
you can find one of his targets here. As he goes on. This is the
first clip and this is Kim going on about just Ghislaine Maxwell
and what's happening in Then he just goes after people. Today we
Unknown: announced charges against Glenn Maxwell, for
helping Jeffrey Epstein sexually exploit and abuse multiple minor
girls from the period of 1994 through 1997. In some cases
maxvill participated in the abuse herself. Maxwell enticed
minor girls, got them to trust her, then delivered them into
the trap that she and Epstein had set.
Maxwell has been all over the world recently, according to
news reports, but authorities arrested her and an isolated
home in central New Hampshire. Why, what was she doing there?
What we know tonight is the maxvill bought the house and the
156 acres that sits on last December, she bought it
anonymously for a million dollars in cash. Maybe now that
she's under arrest. Maybe she's on suicide watch tonight, we'll
learn more about what she did for Jeffrey Epstein. And what
Jeffrey Epstein did where did the money come from? And why
were so many famous people always in the room. For example,
the founder of LinkedIn, Reid, Hoffman was a close friend of
Jeffrey. Now he's a top donor to Joe Biden's quite a moralizer.
To how much did Reed Hoffman know about what Jeffrey Epstein
was doing? Will the FBI be questioning him? If not, why
not? And what about the founder of Microsoft Bill Gates Gates
made at least three visits to Jeffrey Epstein's townhouse. He
called Epstein and his life quote, intriguing in an email
that's intriguing. On its own, we learn more. And what about
former Harvard president and Obama administration official,
Larry Summers, former Secretary of the Treasury under Bill
Clinton, summers flew on Epstein's plane and then got him
to donate 10s of billions of dollars to Harvard University
where Epstein did not go. And needless to say, there was Bill
Clinton himself who often flew on Epstein's plane and then lied
about it. We deserve in fact, we have a right to know what all of
these people really knew about Jeffrey Epstein. many mysteries
yet to solve.
Adam Curry: Wow. What is going on? Is he in the basement with
his air conditioner on or what's going on? That's really
annoying, but not professionally
John C. Dvorak: was he's going on and so now he brings that
fortunately, he does a lot of scorched earth there say the
very
Adam Curry: that's podcast level scorched earth, a very podcast,
John C. Dvorak: the I agree. And pod brings it on. He brings an
author on who's wrote a book or something about the death of
Epstein. And she's just blows it he asked her a lot of leading
questions where she could just open up with speculation, which
is what you want to do if anyone wants to do the gets to do these
shows. Your your opportunity for speculation is off the charts.
You can say whatever you want, because you're kind of an
expert. And you can go nuts, you can have a lot of fun, but she
backs off and she says nothing never answers his first question
about why was she in New Hampshire, which would have led
me to release 10 possibilities. She says nothing. And
unfortunately, it kills the segment, but we should listen to
it so you can see what not to do
Unknown: when a good man has come closer than most to getting
to the core of it. She's co authored the book of death, the
mysterious demise of Jeffrey Epstein. And she joins us so
thanks so much for coming on. So first things first. Why do you
think Maxwell was in New Hampshire this morning? Well,
I just want to say Tucker, I think that prison is going to be
a pretty big adjustment for Glenn Maxwell. Glenn was born
into French high society. She was the daughter of a
billionaire. She's lived this just very extravagant lifestyle
throughout her life. And as you mentioned, I mean, even when she
was in hiding at this hideout, she's she's living in a $1
million custom Tudor Mansion a state on like on 150 acres in
New Hampshire. So you know, not a bad way to be hiding out, I
guess or to be social distancing right now. So I think that this
is going to be a pretty big adjustment. When when it's
pretty
weird, though. I mean, so the Daily Mail just had her in
Israel not that long ago. We know that she's I think she has
a French passport. But she certainly spent a lot of time in
the UK. Her father was English, Robert Maxwell. She had to have
known that American authorities were after her. Do you have any
sense of why she would be in this country right now?
It's very, it's very bizarre. I mean, people were shocked to
hear that there were rumors of all different places that she
was supposedly at. I mean, some people that claims maybe Paris,
I mean, people had spotted her in Paris. There were claims
about London, there were claims in about like the Israeli
embassy, and things like that. So yeah, there's been some
pretty wild speculation, but I think generally the idea was
people assumed she was out of the country. I mean, was born
she was born in France. So she was able to, you know, France
would not have necessarily extradited her, she would not
have been able to be extradited necessarily from France. So it
was very surprising.
Adam Curry: I have a speculation about what is going to happen.
John C. Dvorak: And for your speculation, I do want to say
that I still think the reasons she was in New Hampshire and
that I would have said this, she felt safe because she was told
that nothing's going to happen to her. But now Okay, now go.
Adam Curry: Alright, so I thought it was a safe house,
which is kind of the same thing. Yeah. Maybe Megan and Harry,
rejected from the royal family. Prince Andrew's head is on the
chopping block. This is, I believe, the President or
someone in the administration is behind this. The result? And
this is going to be sound weird. The result of what will happen
of investigation and Prince Andrew and all kinds of weird
noise and swirling will be the truth about the death of Diana.
And that may be to cover up that may be to I'm not sure exactly.
Or maybe to throw Andrew under the bus for some reason. I'm not
sure why. But there's something about it is, is bubbling under
this something is buttoned as the royal family. And that's
what it's going to come down to. And then we can connect all the
other. I mean, if if people really knew the truth about Lady
Diana's death, man, there'll be no credibility for any news
anywhere ever again, or the royal family or the elites in
general. Do a Theramin. But maybe we should just leave it
for what it
John C. Dvorak: is now to take a step I'm unworthy. But I would
say this interesting. comment about the news media and Diana's
death. Yeah, because MSNBC rose from that call. You're right. I
used to work at MSNBC. Yeah. And as soon as Diana died, they
killed off canceled every show and they just had coverage. 24/7
Right. And that's when they switched over to the to the
model that they currently use. All because of Diana's death.
Adam Curry: Well, for sure. We'll have our eye on that ball.
And we will have somebody who also will that was a great clip
to lead into one of our end of show mixes, which will be
featuring prints and dude. Producer Dennis did that one.
Also have sir Spencer, The Wolf of Kansas City with an end of
show mix. And Nick the rat coming up next on no agenda
stream.com. We, of course, would like you to join us here for the
second Thursday of the week on Sunday. And in the meantime,
coming to you from opportunity zones 33 here in the capital of
the drone Star State Austin, Texas, which if you're looking
for it is FEMA Region number six on all governmental maps. In the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry,
John C. Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where I
can see the freeway and there's nothing but trucks filled with
Chinese goods pouring in. Still, I'm John C. Dvorak,
Adam Curry: we return on Sunday. Remember us at the
vortech.org/na Thank you troll room until Sunday, adios mofos.
Unknown: So you're absolutely sure that you're at home on the
10th of March. She was very specific about that night, she
described dancing with you and you profusely sweating. And that
she went on to have been possibly a
slight problem was was was was was distressing. Because I have
a peculiar medical condition which is that I don't sweat or I
didn't sweat at the time. And that was wishing I didn't sweat
at the time because I had suffered what I would describe
as an overdose of adrenaline shot and I said that is almost
impossible for me. And it's only because I have done a number of
things in the recent past that I'm starting to be able to.
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