1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,820 John C. Dvorak: Oh new phone. Let's unbox it. 2 00:00:03,180 --> 00:00:05,280 Unknown: Adam curry, John C Devorah. 3 00:00:05,550 --> 00:00:08,700 Adam Curry: There's October 17 2019. This is your award winning 4 00:00:08,700 --> 00:00:13,890 give nation media assassination episode 1182. This is no agenda. 5 00:00:14,670 --> 00:00:19,860 We haven't planned broadcasting live from opportunity zone 33 in 6 00:00:19,860 --> 00:00:22,920 the frontier of Boston Tejas capital, the drone Star State in 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,050 the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry 8 00:00:25,110 --> 00:00:27,450 John C. Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where 9 00:00:27,630 --> 00:00:32,130 he's proven himself to be a lizard by telling people to eat 10 00:00:32,130 --> 00:00:36,600 lunch. That's the Pope. I'm John C. Dvorak. Raglan Buzzkill. 11 00:00:38,310 --> 00:00:40,290 Adam Curry: Well, now we have two things to start with. 12 00:00:42,480 --> 00:00:44,340 John C. Dvorak: Actually, we have a whole slew of things to 13 00:00:44,340 --> 00:00:48,870 start with. I have a list. Cummins died. Yes, that's a poem 14 00:00:48,870 --> 00:00:52,350 was this to eat bugs? Felicity Hoffman's, oh, is his sentence 15 00:00:52,350 --> 00:00:53,280 is going to be cut. 16 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,670 Adam Curry: And we have a Do we have a deal? 17 00:00:57,629 --> 00:00:59,459 John C. Dvorak: If you ever have a deal? Oh, by the way, Jordan 18 00:00:59,459 --> 00:01:04,259 Peterson movie came out too much controversy. And the guy who 19 00:01:04,439 --> 00:01:07,829 wrote the book about Sandy Hook being a hoax got sued and lost. 20 00:01:08,789 --> 00:01:11,759 And so I go to CNN to check these stories out. And of 21 00:01:11,759 --> 00:01:14,759 course, what do I get there? Giuliani and Trump's 22 00:01:14,970 --> 00:01:17,790 Adam Curry: they have a deal min. V have a deal. 23 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,230 John C. Dvorak: It was I saw I saw the same announcement 24 00:01:22,230 --> 00:01:23,040 apparently. Yeah. 25 00:01:23,070 --> 00:01:26,340 Adam Curry: Well, let's listen to it for the benefit of 26 00:01:26,340 --> 00:01:27,240 everybody 27 00:01:27,270 --> 00:01:32,040 Unknown: we have a new deal means that there was no need for 28 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:36,000 any kind of prolongation. And this is a fair and balanced 29 00:01:36,030 --> 00:01:40,080 agreement. It is testament to our commitment to funding 30 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:45,600 institutions. It provides certainty where Brexit creates 31 00:01:45,630 --> 00:01:46,560 uncertainty. 32 00:01:46,950 --> 00:01:49,860 Adam Curry: I love I love how Juncker is now also kind of 33 00:01:49,860 --> 00:01:52,110 doing this Anglicism this Brexit 34 00:01:52,140 --> 00:01:54,720 John C. Dvorak: Juncker, yes. Juncker Brexit, which is the one 35 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,970 I had was, was the other guy, the negotiator. 36 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,790 Adam Curry: No, no, no, this is the this is Boris and Juncker 37 00:01:59,790 --> 00:02:01,020 together, if you put 38 00:02:01,050 --> 00:02:04,980 Unknown: out of all citizens, and people text peace and 39 00:02:04,980 --> 00:02:09,600 stability on the island of Ireland will be no the border on 40 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,800 the island of Ireland, and the single market will be protected. 41 00:02:14,640 --> 00:02:20,400 The deal is not about us. The deal is about peace, and peace. 42 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:29,850 And to continue my conversations with Boris, Boris will start the 43 00:02:29,850 --> 00:02:34,470 negotiations on the future relations immediately after the 44 00:02:34,470 --> 00:02:38,310 deal will have been approved. We'll start our debates on the 45 00:02:38,310 --> 00:02:43,170 first of November without the interruption. And of course, 46 00:02:43,170 --> 00:02:48,780 it's for both our Parliament's to have the final say. It's not 47 00:02:48,780 --> 00:02:54,180 only Westminster having to approve the deal. The deal being 48 00:02:54,180 --> 00:02:59,040 in fact the tweepi it's also up to the European Parliament to do 49 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:04,620 the same. So thank you, Boris. I have to say excellent 50 00:03:04,620 --> 00:03:05,220 relationship. 51 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,290 Adam Curry: So as it turns out, after all, it was just about the 52 00:03:10,350 --> 00:03:14,310 the backstop deal apparently or I think as I heard Juncker say 53 00:03:14,310 --> 00:03:22,050 the island of Ireland. Okay. Here is Boris Johnson's little 54 00:03:22,050 --> 00:03:22,590 statement. 55 00:03:22,620 --> 00:03:25,830 Unknown: Thank you Joe crowed. And can I particularly tribute 56 00:03:25,860 --> 00:03:30,390 to you, John quote, and also, of course to Michel Barnier, and 57 00:03:30,390 --> 00:03:34,920 all your team, Michelle in the negotiating team in the in the 58 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:40,200 commission. And I do think that this deal represents a very good 59 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:45,630 deal both for the EU and for the UK. And it's a reasonable fair 60 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:50,880 outcome, and reflects the large amount of work that's been 61 00:03:51,060 --> 00:03:56,700 undertaken by by both sides. And I agree very much, John Claude, 62 00:03:56,700 --> 00:04:00,780 with what you said, about protecting the peace process in 63 00:04:00,780 --> 00:04:05,250 the island of Ireland and in Northern Ireland. And, of 64 00:04:05,250 --> 00:04:10,110 course, for us in the UK, it means that we can deliver a real 65 00:04:10,140 --> 00:04:14,130 Brexit that achieves our objectives and it means that the 66 00:04:14,130 --> 00:04:19,890 UK leaves whole and entire on October the 31st. At first, and 67 00:04:19,890 --> 00:04:24,510 it means that Northern Ireland and every other part of the UK 68 00:04:24,690 --> 00:04:29,040 can take part, not just in free trade deals, offering our 69 00:04:29,070 --> 00:04:33,000 tariffs exporting our goods around the world. But it also 70 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:38,820 means that we can take together as a single a United Kingdom, 71 00:04:38,970 --> 00:04:43,890 decisions about our future about our laws, borders, our money and 72 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,830 how we want to run the UK. 73 00:04:47,159 --> 00:04:51,419 Adam Curry: Well well, so they still all have to vote on it the 74 00:04:51,419 --> 00:04:56,009 UK Parliament and the EU Parliament and we shall see if 75 00:04:56,009 --> 00:04:59,669 that if that actually happens. What was kind of fun. This was 76 00:04:59,669 --> 00:05:04,229 the end of The press briefing and so Boris ended it but 77 00:05:04,229 --> 00:05:07,469 apparently King John clouds still had something to say 78 00:05:07,469 --> 00:05:09,629 listen to this elitist douchebag 79 00:05:09,780 --> 00:05:12,210 Unknown: and we look forward to working with you in building 80 00:05:12,210 --> 00:05:16,320 that partnership in the weeks and months to come. Thank you 81 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:16,920 all very much 82 00:05:24,780 --> 00:05:27,150 Adam Curry: he addresses the press and they call Trump a 83 00:05:27,150 --> 00:05:27,750 moron 84 00:05:37,980 --> 00:05:40,470 I have chocolate for mafia groups 85 00:05:40,500 --> 00:05:46,710 Unknown: I have I'm happy about the deal about Brexit. Have a 86 00:05:46,710 --> 00:05:47,070 good time. 87 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,530 John C. Dvorak: Brother as you get the last word well I 88 00:05:52,590 --> 00:05:56,370 listened to I was Bernie's the one I yeah, he's the EU 89 00:05:56,370 --> 00:06:02,040 negotiator that I listened to describe what it was and it's it 90 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,670 seems acceptable except for the fine print that they don't 91 00:06:05,670 --> 00:06:08,100 discuss. Who knows what else is in there? 92 00:06:09,030 --> 00:06:11,340 Adam Curry: We have no idea what's in there? Of course not. 93 00:06:11,340 --> 00:06:15,270 And that doesn't matter because UK Parliament I'm sure will just 94 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,080 delay it. Oh, no, this is no good. It's already been 95 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:20,970 resolved. This is worse than Mays deal. 96 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,750 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, that's, that's probably right. This 97 00:06:24,750 --> 00:06:28,110 probably is probably true, worst and Mays deal exactly what 98 00:06:28,140 --> 00:06:30,750 you're doing here. Somehow it's worse. 99 00:06:30,780 --> 00:06:34,560 Adam Curry: What I always find so interesting in this age of 100 00:06:35,820 --> 00:06:42,060 democracy and how everything has to be the rule of law and the 101 00:06:42,060 --> 00:06:46,440 people the people decide and, and the majority of people voted 102 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:50,790 for Clinton, the people, the people, the people. But when it 103 00:06:50,790 --> 00:06:55,050 comes to the United Kingdom, this anachronism of the royal 104 00:06:55,050 --> 00:06:58,530 family just baffles me every time that people look at that 105 00:06:58,530 --> 00:07:02,220 with a straight face and say, oh, yeah, this is just just 106 00:07:02,220 --> 00:07:05,070 ceremonial doesn't really mean much. There was the queen 107 00:07:05,070 --> 00:07:10,200 earlier this week opening up parliament with her $50 million 108 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,060 crown light because she can't wear the full crown anymore 109 00:07:15,060 --> 00:07:20,250 because her head and your neck are snap. So they carry the big 110 00:07:20,250 --> 00:07:24,000 crown around on a red velvet pillow. And she's sitting on her 111 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,070 throne addressing parliament, 112 00:07:27,540 --> 00:07:31,980 John C. Dvorak: members of the House of Commons my government's 113 00:07:31,980 --> 00:07:32,850 priority, 114 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,340 Adam Curry: I love it. My government's priority, not 115 00:07:35,340 --> 00:07:37,500 yours, you sheeple has always 116 00:07:37,500 --> 00:07:40,770 John C. Dvorak: been to secure the United Kingdom's departure 117 00:07:40,770 --> 00:07:46,350 from the European Union on the 31st of October. My government 118 00:07:46,350 --> 00:07:51,270 intends to work towards a shift for the European Union based on 119 00:07:51,270 --> 00:07:57,570 free trade and friendly cooperation. My ministers will 120 00:07:57,570 --> 00:08:02,250 work to implement new regimes for fisheries, Agriculture and 121 00:08:02,250 --> 00:08:06,390 Trade, seizing the opportunities that arise from leaving the 122 00:08:06,390 --> 00:08:11,640 European Union. A new immigration bill, ending free 123 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:16,020 movement will lay the foundation for a fair, modern and global 124 00:08:16,020 --> 00:08:20,610 immigration system. My government remains committed to 125 00:08:20,610 --> 00:08:24,720 ensuring that resident European citizens who have built their 126 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:29,910 lives in and contributed so much to the United Kingdom have the 127 00:08:29,910 --> 00:08:33,990 right to remain Oh, right. The bill will include measures that 128 00:08:33,990 --> 00:08:39,060 reinforce this commitment. By law Lords and Members of the 129 00:08:39,060 --> 00:08:43,230 House of Commons. Other measures will be laid before you I pray 130 00:08:43,230 --> 00:08:46,980 that the blessing of Almighty God may rest upon your councils 131 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,190 Adam Curry: Yes, my government, my government, no one ever bats 132 00:08:50,190 --> 00:08:56,430 an eye at that anymore. My government, my lords. Okay, all 133 00:08:56,430 --> 00:09:00,330 right, fine. That's good. Back this fact this Yes. 134 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,750 John C. Dvorak: tos, if you want to ignore it, but there it is. 135 00:09:03,930 --> 00:09:06,780 Adam Curry: So how long or maybe it's already started how long 136 00:09:06,780 --> 00:09:11,340 until the US press starts bitching at Trump about not 137 00:09:11,370 --> 00:09:14,310 immediately saying something nice and fawning about 138 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:19,890 what's his name? Elijah Cummings. 139 00:09:21,330 --> 00:09:22,800 John C. Dvorak: I think he's already said something nice and 140 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,810 fawning. Oh, really? Yeah. Well, I 141 00:09:24,810 --> 00:09:26,790 Adam Curry: won't be enough. Oh, no, 142 00:09:26,790 --> 00:09:28,200 John C. Dvorak: of course not. It wasn't faster. 143 00:09:28,500 --> 00:09:31,350 Adam Curry: Whatever it is. It won't be enough. He was 144 00:09:31,350 --> 00:09:34,230 horrible. He sent him to the grave. I'm waiting for someone 145 00:09:34,230 --> 00:09:38,310 to say that. Yes. Yeah. Oh, absolute wrong. Got it. Wrong. 146 00:09:38,340 --> 00:09:41,280 Neil gave him so much stress sent him to the grave. 147 00:09:41,910 --> 00:09:44,160 John C. Dvorak: Maybe they'll come up with a Trump hit list 148 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:45,780 the way they did the Clintons. 149 00:09:46,170 --> 00:09:49,050 Adam Curry: So it's going to be interesting, because now I mean, 150 00:09:49,050 --> 00:09:51,840 Elijah Cummings is really throwing a wrench into the 151 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:57,120 works. You cannot ignore this man. You can not ignore his role 152 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:57,630 in 153 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,910 it. In the civil rights movement, 154 00:10:04,710 --> 00:10:07,440 this just it can't be ignored. So they'll have to break out 155 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:12,090 packages do all kinds of stuff. And that takes away from Trump. 156 00:10:12,750 --> 00:10:18,000 Which is a problem or, or as CNN would say, it takes away from 157 00:10:18,030 --> 00:10:18,960 impeachment. 158 00:10:19,830 --> 00:10:23,670 John C. Dvorak: Well, from what I can tell, you're not going to 159 00:10:23,670 --> 00:10:24,390 break away. 160 00:10:25,740 --> 00:10:28,380 Cummings is just got a date at the wrong time. If he wants to 161 00:10:28,380 --> 00:10:29,190 get some attention. 162 00:10:29,220 --> 00:10:31,830 Adam Curry: No, it's going to well, you'll see it's going to 163 00:10:31,830 --> 00:10:33,960 be hard. It's gonna be hard for the because he was also 164 00:10:34,290 --> 00:10:36,540 staunchly. It may be they could just do Pat because of him 165 00:10:36,540 --> 00:10:40,230 yelling at Trump. That would be that would be useful. That could 166 00:10:40,230 --> 00:10:44,820 be you know, I've watched the I think it was two I don't know if 167 00:10:44,820 --> 00:10:48,360 the third ones come out these Project Veritas videos where 168 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:54,090 they go undercover at CNN and surprise, surprise, CNN is 169 00:10:54,090 --> 00:10:54,990 biassed No. 170 00:10:56,100 --> 00:10:57,000 John C. Dvorak: What? Yeah, 171 00:10:57,030 --> 00:10:58,470 Adam Curry: I mean, holy moly. 172 00:11:00,150 --> 00:11:05,550 But what was nice about it is so we have audio although 173 00:11:05,550 --> 00:11:08,940 completely unusable. Always my complaint about Project Veritas 174 00:11:08,970 --> 00:11:13,170 the audio was so unusable if we don't have the subtitles on the 175 00:11:13,170 --> 00:11:17,550 screen. You really don't know what's being said. So we heard 176 00:11:17,550 --> 00:11:20,130 Jeff Zucker in the Monday meeting saying you know, it's 177 00:11:20,130 --> 00:11:22,500 all about impeachment, keep it on impeachment. We're gonna go 178 00:11:22,500 --> 00:11:24,690 with impeachment. I don't care what the story is impeachment. 179 00:11:25,680 --> 00:11:28,170 But they do follow orders. They're at CNN, 180 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,930 Unknown: the impeachment inquiry. Stay updated. Stay 181 00:11:30,930 --> 00:11:35,040 informed with up to the minute breaking news and analysis. 182 00:11:35,310 --> 00:11:41,640 There's only one place for it all. cnn.com/impeachment Wow. 183 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,190 cnn.com/impeachment 184 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,340 Adam Curry: podcasts breaking news news on every hour 185 00:11:47,340 --> 00:11:53,640 impeachment all the time. Yeah, now they're just they're pushing 186 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,270 man they read they really want to drag it into everybody's head 187 00:11:57,270 --> 00:12:01,380 that Trump is above the law. The the seat feels he's above the 188 00:12:01,380 --> 00:12:06,090 law cannot be above the law has sacrificed our national security 189 00:12:06,210 --> 00:12:11,220 is killing the Kurds. We must impeach we must impeach 190 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,190 John C. Dvorak: no evidence that even when courage has died, by 191 00:12:14,190 --> 00:12:14,550 the way, 192 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,730 Adam Curry: no, no, no. Well, hello. 193 00:12:19,170 --> 00:12:22,350 Yeah, I have a lot on Syria. We don't have to get into it now. 194 00:12:22,620 --> 00:12:27,060 But I are actually maybe we should do this. So yesterday, 195 00:12:27,060 --> 00:12:29,850 there was this flurry of activity all of a sudden and 196 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:35,190 all. Everything starts lighting up because apparently, Nancy 197 00:12:35,190 --> 00:12:38,700 Pelosi was so insulted. She walked out of the meeting with 198 00:12:38,700 --> 00:12:41,730 Trump. horrible man. 199 00:12:42,510 --> 00:12:46,020 John C. Dvorak: She and she said he melted down and he says she 200 00:12:46,020 --> 00:12:46,800 melted down. 201 00:12:46,890 --> 00:12:49,980 Well, let's listen to the ABA goo. That's got to be 202 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,260 Adam Curry: so right after this event right in front of the 203 00:12:52,260 --> 00:12:57,300 White House. Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer and Steny Hoyer all come 204 00:12:57,300 --> 00:12:59,880 out and call each other leader all the time. This is a very 205 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:04,110 interesting, I will talk to leader Schumer, Leader Pelosi 206 00:13:04,140 --> 00:13:08,430 leader Hoyer, then you got your your chosen representatives. 207 00:13:08,460 --> 00:13:12,840 You're not leaders. I'm a little tired of this leader talk. And 208 00:13:12,870 --> 00:13:17,490 everyone's talking about oh, Republicans and their dare dear 209 00:13:17,490 --> 00:13:21,000 leader Trump, the only people using the word leader are 210 00:13:21,090 --> 00:13:23,520 Democrats consistently 211 00:13:23,550 --> 00:13:27,120 Unknown: in Syria, that calls upon the president to urge the 212 00:13:27,930 --> 00:13:31,800 the Turks to exercise restraint for us to have humanitarian 213 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,400 assistance to the some of the Kurds children are being killed 214 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,560 there. And very scary. Some 215 00:13:37,560 --> 00:13:39,600 Adam Curry: of the Kurds children are being killed there. 216 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,750 John, do you not have a report of the Kurdish children being 217 00:13:42,750 --> 00:13:47,430 slaughtered, massacred, killed? Parents children 218 00:13:47,430 --> 00:13:51,240 Unknown: are being killed there. And very, very importantly, and 219 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:56,820 most importantly, is asked for a clear plan on how we're going to 220 00:13:56,820 --> 00:13:58,050 fight ISIS. 221 00:13:58,530 --> 00:14:03,030 Adam Curry: And as for some context, the only reason Pelosi 222 00:14:03,030 --> 00:14:06,150 and Schumer were meeting with the President was to say, hey, 223 00:14:06,390 --> 00:14:10,770 we just had a very important vote in Congress, in the House 224 00:14:10,770 --> 00:14:14,790 of Representatives. And it's okay. It's not a bill or 225 00:14:14,790 --> 00:14:17,460 anything. It's a resolution, which is kind of an official 226 00:14:17,460 --> 00:14:21,330 document saying, Here's what we think, as if we hadn't heard it 227 00:14:21,330 --> 00:14:25,800 on every news cable news channel. And what they think is 228 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,610 that is a very bad idea that Trump had pulled out the troops. 229 00:14:30,660 --> 00:14:33,720 Or he's pulling them out the no boots on the ground troops we've 230 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,960 had there, apparently, because it's going to kill the Kurds. 231 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,530 And at the very last sentence, indeed, was, well, we'd like to 232 00:14:40,530 --> 00:14:43,770 know what the plan is. So they voted on that. Oh, I'm glad you 233 00:14:43,770 --> 00:14:44,880 took the time to do that. 234 00:14:45,449 --> 00:14:48,329 Unknown: I think that vote, besides the vote, more than two 235 00:14:48,329 --> 00:14:52,439 to one of the Republicans voted to oppose what the president did 236 00:14:52,769 --> 00:14:57,539 probably got to the president, because he was shaken up by it. 237 00:14:57,899 --> 00:15:01,319 And that's why we couldn't continue In the meeting because 238 00:15:01,559 --> 00:15:06,569 he was just not relating to the reality of it. Again, we are 239 00:15:06,569 --> 00:15:10,439 proud of our men and women in uniform. Those who have been in 240 00:15:10,439 --> 00:15:14,099 Syria have conducted themselves in a way that makes us all very 241 00:15:14,099 --> 00:15:17,759 proud. And I conveyed that to the Chairman of the Joint 242 00:15:17,759 --> 00:15:21,569 Chiefs. We had some questions about ISIS and I'm going to 243 00:15:21,569 --> 00:15:28,229 defer to distinguished leader from New York welfare. Who 244 00:15:28,229 --> 00:15:30,239 focused on ISIS in the meeting, 245 00:15:31,020 --> 00:15:33,300 Adam Curry: leader, hash Schumer, their leader, he will 246 00:15:33,300 --> 00:15:34,530 talk to us about that. 247 00:15:34,740 --> 00:15:38,070 Unknown: Yeah, thank you, speaker, leader and cue leader 248 00:15:38,070 --> 00:15:41,460 Hoyer leader. I told the President that being from New 249 00:15:41,460 --> 00:15:47,550 York as he was, we're particularly aware of the 250 00:15:47,550 --> 00:15:52,560 problems, the terrorism, that an organisation like ISIS can 251 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:53,130 create. 252 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,550 Adam Curry: See now now this is the next push in the impeachment 253 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:03,030 crescendo is to now say that the President is in effect bringing 254 00:16:03,060 --> 00:16:04,860 ISIS back to America. 255 00:16:05,190 --> 00:16:07,590 Unknown: And the fact that someone no less than General 256 00:16:07,590 --> 00:16:12,960 Mattis has said that ISIS has been enhanced, that the danger 257 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:18,930 of ISIS is so much greater worries all of us. I asked the 258 00:16:18,930 --> 00:16:24,240 President what his plan was to contain ISIS. He didn't really 259 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:29,970 have one. He said the Turks and the Syrians will guard the ISIS 260 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,930 prisoners. I said, Is there any intelligence evidence that the 261 00:16:33,930 --> 00:16:37,440 Turks in the Syrians will have the same interest that the Kurds 262 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:42,330 are we did in guarding ISIS? And the secretary of defence was 263 00:16:42,870 --> 00:16:45,870 was, thank God, he was honest. He said, We don't have that 264 00:16:45,870 --> 00:16:50,640 evidence. And so I said, then how can we think that this is a 265 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,270 plan when there are Syrians and Turks who are not our friends? 266 00:16:54,510 --> 00:17:00,690 Who ISIS, if they escaped, does them very little harm? How can 267 00:17:00,690 --> 00:17:06,090 we let this happen? They didn't have any good answers. This is 268 00:17:06,090 --> 00:17:09,270 appalling. The President had no plan, no real plan for 269 00:17:09,270 --> 00:17:12,450 containing ISIS, other than relying on the Syrians in the 270 00:17:12,450 --> 00:17:17,910 Turks, then why did we spend a decade billions of dollars and 271 00:17:17,910 --> 00:17:22,380 lost lives and trying to curtail ISIS, if on a phone call on a 272 00:17:22,380 --> 00:17:27,720 whim? The President is going to undo all of that, and turn this 273 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,240 over to the Turks and the Syrians. 274 00:17:30,270 --> 00:17:33,660 Adam Curry: I'll tell you why we spent 10 years doing that, 275 00:17:33,930 --> 00:17:39,390 because we were told that Assad, the horrible dictator was 276 00:17:39,390 --> 00:17:43,560 killing his own people, gassing women and children. Now all of a 277 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:53,370 sudden, it's about ISIS and they might come to America. We will 278 00:17:53,370 --> 00:18:05,820 follow them to the gate ISIS. Course, our only mission there 279 00:18:05,820 --> 00:18:14,190 was to train the YPG, PKK, whatever you want to call them 280 00:18:14,190 --> 00:18:22,920 today. And these ISIS prisoners. They have European passports. So 281 00:18:22,950 --> 00:18:25,740 where are they going to go? If they escaped? They're going to 282 00:18:25,740 --> 00:18:28,410 go to Europe? I don't think there'll be going to the United 283 00:18:28,410 --> 00:18:28,590 States 284 00:18:28,590 --> 00:18:30,180 John C. Dvorak: very few that what there's one or two 285 00:18:30,180 --> 00:18:33,660 Americans in there. And that's what we had that clip of one of 286 00:18:33,660 --> 00:18:38,370 our CBS correspondents to having a discussion with the American 287 00:18:38,940 --> 00:18:41,820 and he felt he was fine going back to Europe, terrorists. 288 00:18:42,810 --> 00:18:46,830 Here's, here's the there's a blogger. I don't know if this 289 00:18:46,830 --> 00:18:50,310 how this is gonna sound. But she's one of those bloggers who 290 00:18:51,150 --> 00:18:54,210 she's been around. She's one of those bloggers who, you know, 291 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,570 looks for a bucket to throw a mic into and in the fears it's 292 00:18:57,570 --> 00:19:03,510 good sound. This is Syrian girl. And she has some interesting 293 00:19:03,510 --> 00:19:07,110 points to make about and she's a bit she could be just a spook. 294 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,500 Yeah, she has some points, but it's good to listen to her 295 00:19:10,500 --> 00:19:12,630 watch. But here's some her points about the Kurds. 296 00:19:12,660 --> 00:19:15,210 Adam Curry: You were allied into believing that the Kurds were 297 00:19:15,210 --> 00:19:19,350 fighting for a national liberation. The truth is that 298 00:19:19,350 --> 00:19:22,050 the reason Kurds don't have a country is because they were 299 00:19:22,050 --> 00:19:26,220 nomadic until World War One. They never settled in one place 300 00:19:26,220 --> 00:19:29,940 and built cities. The land that they moved into was already 301 00:19:29,940 --> 00:19:33,240 inhabited by some of the oldest civilizations in the world. 302 00:19:33,690 --> 00:19:38,790 Anatolians Assyrians, armenians and assyrians, they wanted to 303 00:19:38,790 --> 00:19:43,290 build a state at the expense of these indigenous people. Yet 304 00:19:43,290 --> 00:19:46,740 another lie you were being told is that serious Christians want 305 00:19:46,740 --> 00:19:52,380 the US to say to help them stay safe from Turkey. No, the Syrian 306 00:19:52,380 --> 00:19:56,250 Christians are saying they want the US out and the Syrian army 307 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:00,750 in the truth is this Syrian Christians were all Ready being 308 00:20:00,780 --> 00:20:03,960 ethnically cleansed by the Kurdish militias, alongside 309 00:20:03,990 --> 00:20:07,170 other minorities. They've been shutting down their schools 310 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:11,310 forcibly disarming their militias. Syrian Christian 311 00:20:11,310 --> 00:20:15,300 fighters have been assassinated. Because Kurds are not in a 312 00:20:15,300 --> 00:20:18,690 majority in the areas that they want to control. They wanted to 313 00:20:18,690 --> 00:20:23,100 push out other minorities in order to become a majority. What 314 00:20:23,100 --> 00:20:27,240 is right is that every part of Syria belongs to every Syrian no 315 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,600 matter their ethnicity or religion. The Assyrian 316 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,900 Christians say that the Syrian army are the only people they 317 00:20:33,900 --> 00:20:35,370 can trust to ensure this 318 00:20:37,980 --> 00:20:44,880 the White House released this video of video this letter that 319 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:52,290 he sent to air Dhawan and in it he says, By the way, you know 320 00:20:52,290 --> 00:21:01,800 the what's the guy's name? The general mass loom watch actually 321 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:07,440 general Mazloum Kobani ID and in April Muslim was already saying 322 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,500 hey, you know the We Can Do This You know, it's alright, we're 323 00:21:10,500 --> 00:21:13,800 good. We're gonna we're gonna find your own plan here with the 324 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:18,180 turkey in April. So this has been going on for a while and 325 00:21:18,180 --> 00:21:22,350 these comments certainly at least international people have 326 00:21:22,350 --> 00:21:26,700 been aware that these this idea has been out there for a while. 327 00:21:26,700 --> 00:21:30,360 I mean, I missed it. I went in after the president's notes said 328 00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:33,900 look at the general agrees with the with you guys working 329 00:21:33,900 --> 00:21:37,200 something out. I went back and looked at this has been going on 330 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,320 for a while. Oh, of course. We don't get much of that because 331 00:21:40,350 --> 00:21:40,980 news. 332 00:21:41,700 --> 00:21:45,570 John C. Dvorak: No, we knew when they have to discuss it. They 333 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:50,040 gin it up with like that Kentucky film, which was just an 334 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,220 embarrassing, in fact, Trump bitched about it directly to 335 00:21:53,879 --> 00:21:55,679 Adam Curry: Kentucky film with Kentucky film, 336 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,050 John C. Dvorak: the Kentucky gun show. 337 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:02,010 Adam Curry: Oh, the ABC fake video. 338 00:22:03,120 --> 00:22:05,760 John C. Dvorak: And by the way, everyone who's seen this says 339 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,680 geez, we got to go to this this event. 340 00:22:08,910 --> 00:22:10,230 Adam Curry: Tracer fire at night. 341 00:22:10,770 --> 00:22:12,690 John C. Dvorak: It's unbelievable. It's quite quite 342 00:22:12,690 --> 00:22:16,890 exciting. But here's Trump calling out ABC on Syria. Oh, 343 00:22:16,890 --> 00:22:17,250 hold 344 00:22:17,250 --> 00:22:22,590 Adam Curry: on. Okay. Oops. Even after 345 00:22:22,590 --> 00:22:24,540 Unknown: all, you have seen others freed all the 346 00:22:24,540 --> 00:22:28,470 humanitarian disaster, you don't have any regret forgiving or 347 00:22:28,470 --> 00:22:31,620 Diwan the green light to invade. I didn't give him a green light. 348 00:22:31,650 --> 00:22:34,800 Well, did you tell him as you just you know, when you make a 349 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,650 statement like that is so deceptive, just the opposite of 350 00:22:37,650 --> 00:22:39,930 a green light. First of all, we had virtually no soldiers that 351 00:22:39,930 --> 00:22:43,920 were mostly God, just a tiny little group. And they would 352 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,350 have been in harm's way you have a massive army on the other side 353 00:22:46,350 --> 00:22:48,660 of the border. But more importantly, I didn't give them 354 00:22:48,660 --> 00:22:51,840 a green light. And if anybody saw the letter, which can be 355 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,150 released very easily, if you'd like I could certainly release 356 00:22:54,150 --> 00:22:57,060 it. But I wrote a letter right after that conversation, very 357 00:22:57,060 --> 00:23:00,270 powerful letter that has never given a green light. They've 358 00:23:00,270 --> 00:23:02,430 been wanting to do that for years. And frankly, they've been 359 00:23:02,430 --> 00:23:06,150 fighting for many, many years. And when you ask a question like 360 00:23:06,150 --> 00:23:09,660 that, it's very deceptive. John, it's almost as deceptive as you 361 00:23:09,660 --> 00:23:12,390 showing all of the bombings taking place in Syria. And it 362 00:23:12,390 --> 00:23:15,150 turned out that the bombing that you showed on television took 363 00:23:15,150 --> 00:23:19,050 place in Kentucky. So you know, and I'm not even sure that ABC 364 00:23:19,050 --> 00:23:21,810 apologise for that. But certainly, it was a terrible 365 00:23:21,810 --> 00:23:24,150 thing. I'm looking at this. I've said, Well, that's pretty bad. 366 00:23:24,330 --> 00:23:26,880 And it was in Kentucky. It wasn't in Syria. So I don't know 367 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,250 what you're going to do about that. But I think ABC owes an 368 00:23:29,250 --> 00:23:31,290 apology. And blow me. 369 00:23:32,730 --> 00:23:35,040 John C. Dvorak: You know, I couldn't find an apology either. 370 00:23:35,370 --> 00:23:38,700 Adam Curry: I there was a tweet that you know about a mistake 371 00:23:38,700 --> 00:23:41,370 and has been corrected. But there wasn't really an apology 372 00:23:41,370 --> 00:23:45,930 for, you know, clearly, very poor reporting. Let me go back 373 00:23:45,930 --> 00:23:46,260 to 374 00:23:46,470 --> 00:23:49,860 John C. Dvorak: deceptive, it was beyond for reporting. 375 00:23:50,010 --> 00:23:57,300 Adam Curry: And go back to the post meltdown meeting here is to 376 00:23:57,300 --> 00:24:00,090 whine this up Pelosi, I'm sorry, Leader Pelosi. 377 00:24:00,450 --> 00:24:02,070 Unknown: I would also say one other thing. 378 00:24:03,390 --> 00:24:05,880 Adam Curry: He was wait, maybe it's Oh, no. This is Schumer 379 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:10,110 saying how incredibly rude. The President was was just horrible. 380 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:10,530 I 381 00:24:10,530 --> 00:24:14,400 Unknown: would also say one other thing. He was insulting, 382 00:24:15,030 --> 00:24:19,950 particularly to the speaker. She kept her cool completely. But he 383 00:24:19,950 --> 00:24:25,320 called her a third rate politician. He said that the 384 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,010 there are communists involved and you guys might like that. I 385 00:24:29,010 --> 00:24:32,940 mean, this was not a dialogue. It was sort of a diatribe. A 386 00:24:32,940 --> 00:24:39,060 nasty diatribe not focused on the facts. Particularly the fact 387 00:24:39,210 --> 00:24:44,160 of how to curtail ISIS, a terrorist organisation that aims 388 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,070 to hurt the United States. In our 389 00:24:47,100 --> 00:24:49,500 Adam Curry: homeland. Yes, they're coming. They're coming 390 00:24:49,500 --> 00:24:55,500 lander every bush and it's so interesting. That and I believe 391 00:24:55,500 --> 00:24:58,170 he said it I'm sure he said you're a third rate politician 392 00:24:58,170 --> 00:25:01,170 Nancy, and maybe you'd love them. as ISIS guys some of them 393 00:25:01,170 --> 00:25:03,720 are communist. I mean I don't know if it quite weighs up 394 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:09,750 against your rapist a criminal you put the country in harm's 395 00:25:09,750 --> 00:25:13,410 way You're a traitor you're treasonous it's almost the same 396 00:25:13,410 --> 00:25:14,040 thing 397 00:25:15,599 --> 00:25:16,439 Unknown: Not quite. 398 00:25:17,550 --> 00:25:19,260 John C. Dvorak: I should look in the mirror these folk 399 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,460 Adam Curry: but there's there's a little bit of a conspiracy 400 00:25:23,460 --> 00:25:26,160 theory out there if you don't mind just for one second just 401 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,270 pop on the glasses. 402 00:25:28,530 --> 00:25:30,240 Did you get your cube cube glasses on? 403 00:25:30,750 --> 00:25:32,250 John C. Dvorak: No, I didn't. I can't find them. 404 00:25:32,940 --> 00:25:34,860 Adam Curry: Tell me when you're ready. And then we'll put them 405 00:25:34,860 --> 00:25:35,130 on 406 00:25:35,190 --> 00:25:36,450 John C. Dvorak: hold on a second. They're probably under 407 00:25:36,450 --> 00:25:37,290 this pile like 408 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:38,490 Adam Curry: mine are already on 409 00:25:39,450 --> 00:25:46,950 John C. Dvorak: pretty colours. This system? No, Hillary I got 410 00:25:46,950 --> 00:25:47,490 him here there. 411 00:25:49,830 --> 00:25:53,880 Adam Curry: All right, perfect. There is a conspiracy theory 412 00:25:54,600 --> 00:26:00,390 that Nancy Pelosi sent out the bat signal for harm to come to 413 00:26:00,390 --> 00:26:04,920 the 45th President of the United States. And she did this with 414 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:10,590 some very clear signalling during one of her many 415 00:26:10,590 --> 00:26:14,910 appearances yesterday regarding the bracelet 416 00:26:14,970 --> 00:26:18,660 Unknown: to me it was a small bill in terms of guns again as I 417 00:26:18,660 --> 00:26:22,770 said to some of you earlier this is a bullet I was in Florida for 418 00:26:23,730 --> 00:26:26,340 was all over the country but when I was in Florida, I 419 00:26:26,340 --> 00:26:29,520 received this from Federico Wilson my colleague it's a 420 00:26:29,700 --> 00:26:33,300 bracelets are made with bullets and the colour orange which is 421 00:26:33,300 --> 00:26:37,110 the colour of gun violence protection this A told the 422 00:26:37,110 --> 00:26:46,200 president we're not going away. A bracelet made of bullets in 423 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:51,330 the colour orange. Okay, 424 00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:53,100 John C. Dvorak: that's code o r 425 00:26:53,100 --> 00:26:54,450 Adam Curry: n Hello? 426 00:26:54,810 --> 00:26:57,210 John C. Dvorak: Ah, Orange Man bad. Yes, 427 00:26:57,210 --> 00:27:01,320 Adam Curry: exactly. Orange Man bad a bracelet made of bullets. 428 00:27:03,900 --> 00:27:05,820 John C. Dvorak: That's a good conspiracy theory out of the 429 00:27:05,820 --> 00:27:06,840 blue. Yeah. Well, it 430 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,080 Adam Curry: came from you know, queue is gone. I guess after 431 00:27:11,070 --> 00:27:14,520 eight Chan was taken down. And I don't know. There's lots of 432 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,430 queues popping up. But I liked that I liked. I thought this one 433 00:27:17,430 --> 00:27:21,960 was pretty good. You go Nance, and since when did orange who 434 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,250 chose orange is the colour of gun violence? Who makes these 435 00:27:26,250 --> 00:27:29,910 colour? Code? Yeah, it has to be never heard. This has to be 436 00:27:29,910 --> 00:27:30,420 code. 437 00:27:31,620 --> 00:27:39,330 Never heard this. I have seen. I have two more clips about Syria 438 00:27:39,330 --> 00:27:40,500 and Turkey. The first is 439 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,560 Stephen cook. He's from the Council on Foreign Relations 440 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,800 short clip. But I think it's kind of interesting. When 441 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,950 President Erdogan sees you know, Russian soldiers doing selfies 442 00:27:53,010 --> 00:27:57,120 in a previous US base, what does he make of that? Well, 443 00:27:57,659 --> 00:27:59,849 Unknown: it's clear that the Russians have now positioned 444 00:27:59,879 --> 00:28:04,019 themselves as a force for stability of all things in the 445 00:28:04,019 --> 00:28:09,149 region. The Russians want to put themselves in between Turkish 446 00:28:09,149 --> 00:28:13,259 forces and Syrian regime forces to ensure that there is no fight 447 00:28:13,259 --> 00:28:16,319 there. The Russians are going to play every end of the stick here 448 00:28:16,319 --> 00:28:21,689 to their advantage. Now, everyone has no Washington to go 449 00:28:21,689 --> 00:28:24,959 back to for leverage with the Russians. The Russians can play 450 00:28:24,959 --> 00:28:28,169 him like a fiddle. Stephen Cook, thank you so much for being with 451 00:28:28,170 --> 00:28:30,720 Adam Curry: us. Sounds like the plan is working. Of course, the 452 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,570 Russians are going to come in I have not heard anything on 453 00:28:33,570 --> 00:28:38,490 MSNBC, CNN or Fox, about the Russians and their deepwater 454 00:28:38,490 --> 00:28:42,240 port in Syria. You know, this is this is part of what forever 455 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,220 it's part of why all of this started it been 456 00:28:44,220 --> 00:28:48,000 John C. Dvorak: a long term. ally with each other. Yeah. So 457 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:48,630 what's new, 458 00:28:48,990 --> 00:28:52,110 Adam Curry: nothing's new. But they don't they don't talk about 459 00:28:52,110 --> 00:28:52,620 these things. 460 00:28:54,630 --> 00:28:57,030 John C. Dvorak: They have. I get the sense that whoever's 461 00:28:57,450 --> 00:29:02,370 orchestrating all the talking points is get been high, haven't 462 00:29:02,430 --> 00:29:04,500 gotten their act been high. 463 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,240 Adam Curry: Let's put some more talking. I know, Hey, man, Bob 464 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,790 Menendez is going to be on with Cooper. Let's give him some 465 00:29:11,790 --> 00:29:12,870 talking points. You 466 00:29:12,870 --> 00:29:15,210 Unknown: yourself tweeted that listening to the President made 467 00:29:15,210 --> 00:29:18,900 you feel deeply concerned for the country? Can you talk about 468 00:29:18,900 --> 00:29:21,600 what happened in the meeting what you saw? Oh, the meeting? 469 00:29:22,110 --> 00:29:24,750 Well, from the moment the President came in, I would 470 00:29:24,750 --> 00:29:29,730 describe him as belligerent. he smacked down a series of files 471 00:29:29,730 --> 00:29:32,970 on the table and said, Well, you all asked for this meeting, I 472 00:29:32,970 --> 00:29:36,900 reluctantly gave it to you. And Speaker Pelosi said, Well, with 473 00:29:36,900 --> 00:29:39,540 all due respect, Mr. President, we didn't ask for a meeting with 474 00:29:39,540 --> 00:29:43,590 you. We asked for a briefing on the secretaries of defence state 475 00:29:43,590 --> 00:29:46,560 and intelligence to understand the consequences of the actions 476 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,750 you took. And then he said, Well, then let's end the 477 00:29:48,750 --> 00:29:51,870 meeting. And she said, Well, while I'm here as the speaker, I 478 00:29:51,870 --> 00:29:55,980 have an obligation to tell you that the house just voted 350 479 00:29:55,980 --> 00:29:59,340 some odd. Two, I forget exactly what the amount was, but it was 480 00:29:59,340 --> 00:30:02,490 an overwhelming bipartisan vote to disapprove the actions that 481 00:30:02,490 --> 00:30:07,620 you took in Syria. And then he got that debt evolved into 482 00:30:07,620 --> 00:30:10,740 that's nothing but a hit job and the Republicans and she said, 483 00:30:10,740 --> 00:30:14,190 well, many Republicans joined us. And then he called Speaker 484 00:30:14,190 --> 00:30:17,850 Pelosi, a third rate politician. He said that the Kurds were 485 00:30:17,850 --> 00:30:20,730 nothing but communists and Democrat, all of us Democrats 486 00:30:20,730 --> 00:30:23,610 who were seated there must be happy with that, you know, 487 00:30:23,610 --> 00:30:28,170 suggesting that we all subscribe to that view of being communist. 488 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:34,980 And then, you know, it just, it was belligerent, and, and 489 00:30:34,980 --> 00:30:39,930 something I have never seen in 27 years here in Congress, and 490 00:30:39,930 --> 00:30:42,570 serving under four different presidents. I've never seen a 491 00:30:42,570 --> 00:30:43,410 moment like this. 492 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,890 John C. Dvorak: That's not how these meetings usually go. No, 493 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,060 Unknown: not that other presidents and presidents, from 494 00:30:51,060 --> 00:30:56,010 Clinton, to Bush to Obama, and now Trump, I was in the White 495 00:30:56,010 --> 00:30:58,680 House with President Bush and he was president. We might have 496 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,080 disagreements, but what it was never disagreeable. And always 497 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,140 it was respectful and there was exchanges of views. 498 00:31:04,230 --> 00:31:07,530 Adam Curry: So there's no reporting. This is silly. This 499 00:31:07,530 --> 00:31:12,600 is stupid. It's a big show rod. And Nancy stormed out because he 500 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,530 called her a third rate politician. And it's all just a 501 00:31:16,530 --> 00:31:21,390 part of the as I said earlier, the crescendo the culmination to 502 00:31:21,420 --> 00:31:28,110 get public support for Orange Man bad impeachment good. And 503 00:31:28,140 --> 00:31:32,100 it, they'll they'll probably get there. They keep pushing in 504 00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:35,010 December, I think that they'll be able to 505 00:31:35,130 --> 00:31:37,470 John C. Dvorak: get their pipe painted themselves into a corner 506 00:31:37,470 --> 00:31:40,050 there. I don't know what why they're taking so long. 507 00:31:42,060 --> 00:31:45,810 Adam Curry: Because she doesn't have the votes. I mean, of 508 00:31:45,810 --> 00:31:47,400 course, a tonne of Republicans 509 00:31:47,490 --> 00:31:49,800 John C. Dvorak: who say they have the votes. It looks like 510 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,230 they have the votes they get the votes and 511 00:31:52,230 --> 00:31:54,120 Adam Curry: get now to get 512 00:31:55,530 --> 00:31:59,550 Republicans or they will not they will not do that. Not in 513 00:31:59,550 --> 00:32:01,890 the house. Not in the Senate. A couple Sure. 514 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,410 John C. Dvorak: The senators i I'm with you on the Senate, but 515 00:32:04,410 --> 00:32:08,100 the house, they've got the votes. Well, I'm not so sure 516 00:32:08,100 --> 00:32:13,500 they do. I'm convinced of it. The Senate No, well, it doesn't 517 00:32:13,500 --> 00:32:15,060 matter do a secret ballot. 518 00:32:15,210 --> 00:32:16,980 Adam Curry: But let's just do it. You know, all these 519 00:32:17,580 --> 00:32:22,680 subpoenas, and it's all this, all these lies this this. And 520 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:28,170 this is a true conspiracy. To all we're subpoenaing everybody 521 00:32:28,170 --> 00:32:31,710 in the Trump is obstructed the trump the Trump is obstructing 522 00:32:33,270 --> 00:32:36,270 his new name, the Trump is obstructing by not letting 523 00:32:36,270 --> 00:32:40,260 people adhere to the subpoenas. But these are not the it may say 524 00:32:40,260 --> 00:32:43,710 subpoena but it's not an official subpoena. If you don't 525 00:32:43,710 --> 00:32:47,910 get that until you take the impeachment vote, then you have 526 00:32:47,910 --> 00:32:52,950 subpoena power. You can't just say it's just a lie. There's no 527 00:32:52,950 --> 00:32:57,360 subpoenas that are legally enforceable. They're just 528 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,180 calling it a subpoena. They might even write subpoena on the 529 00:33:00,180 --> 00:33:05,430 envelope. But until you have the vote, you can't do you can't 530 00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:10,020 issue subpoenas for impeachment. So something has to happen and 531 00:33:10,020 --> 00:33:13,620 it looks like this was you know, they're gonna try again, I think 532 00:33:13,650 --> 00:33:18,690 Elijah Cummings messed it up. Unless they can spin it into you 533 00:33:18,690 --> 00:33:21,600 know, Trump killed him, which I think you can make the case 534 00:33:22,710 --> 00:33:23,280 well, they're 535 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,930 John C. Dvorak: gonna have a hard time making that case 536 00:33:24,930 --> 00:33:28,320 because it that's going to detract from their, you know, 537 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,350 they're trying to focus for a change. I mean, if we go over 538 00:33:31,350 --> 00:33:34,140 the Trump rotation Trump rotation.com for anyone out 539 00:33:34,140 --> 00:33:37,950 there as it looked at it, and you look at the laundry list, 540 00:33:37,950 --> 00:33:42,000 they can't seem to focus on anything to get this guy right. 541 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,110 So they they're This is the hardest they this is the most 542 00:33:46,110 --> 00:33:49,830 effort they've ever put into any one thing and now the coming 543 00:33:49,830 --> 00:33:50,310 thing is, 544 00:33:51,270 --> 00:33:53,580 Adam Curry: you know, Oh, damn you Cummings. 545 00:33:53,910 --> 00:33:56,430 John C. Dvorak: It didn't it's not helping. It's like spray and 546 00:33:56,430 --> 00:34:00,330 pray. I don't know if you want to make that a jumping off point 547 00:34:00,330 --> 00:34:03,240 for the debates because they haven't impeach medley 548 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,950 Adam Curry: Okay, did you make this impeach medley? 549 00:34:08,250 --> 00:34:09,900 John C. Dvorak: No, I did not. I stole this. 550 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:11,910 Adam Curry: What's it? What's it titled? 551 00:34:12,150 --> 00:34:14,340 John C. Dvorak: Debate? Just I get all these debates. Oh, 552 00:34:14,910 --> 00:34:18,360 Adam Curry: let's do some debates, though. I watched. And 553 00:34:18,450 --> 00:34:20,400 John C. Dvorak: let's talk about that law there. Before we do 554 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:25,590 that, then we can go over some pre clip research, which I did. 555 00:34:25,620 --> 00:34:29,640 Okay. offhanded research is not the kind of thing. We should be 556 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,090 doing this more often. But I did it this time. I download the 557 00:34:33,090 --> 00:34:37,230 entire transcript and look for keywords. How about 558 00:34:37,230 --> 00:34:39,000 Adam Curry: the word look at 559 00:34:40,230 --> 00:34:41,970 John C. Dvorak: 64 times, 560 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,480 Adam Curry: and I was flat. Everybody was doing it? Look, 561 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:50,280 look. It's so stupid. Because I really I thought about this. If 562 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:56,130 one person had said listen, that would have been so effective. 563 00:34:56,460 --> 00:35:00,150 John C. Dvorak: knows it 64 times somebody said look at It 564 00:35:00,150 --> 00:35:02,010 was every all of them. I couldn't really pin it on 565 00:35:02,010 --> 00:35:06,930 anyone. Right is another one, including all right was 87 Oh my 566 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:13,080 right, right. Right. Right. So you can have 87 of those. You 567 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:17,670 have? Oh, curiously, there was only four facts of the matters. 568 00:35:18,269 --> 00:35:21,899 Adam Curry: But they were all from Bernie and Joe. All from 569 00:35:21,899 --> 00:35:23,069 Joe. All from Joe. 570 00:35:23,729 --> 00:35:26,459 John C. Dvorak: No, Bernie. Yeah, this is good. There was 571 00:35:26,459 --> 00:35:32,129 also a, here's the deal three times, you know, exactly what 572 00:35:32,789 --> 00:35:37,889 Trump was referenced at four times in with corruption 15 573 00:35:37,889 --> 00:35:38,369 times. 574 00:35:39,089 --> 00:35:41,339 Adam Curry: But at the end of the day, that was in there a 575 00:35:41,339 --> 00:35:42,389 couple of times. I 576 00:35:42,390 --> 00:35:44,250 John C. Dvorak: didn't look up into the day, I did look up 577 00:35:44,250 --> 00:35:49,830 impeachment, which was 43. I've also got, you know, which I 578 00:35:49,830 --> 00:35:53,190 thought was very distressing. Because this is kind of like, 579 00:35:53,340 --> 00:35:57,150 you know, street talk from athletes in the 70s. You know, 580 00:35:57,180 --> 00:36:00,210 no, no, you know, you know, you know, right, and who was looked 581 00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:02,790 at 34 times, mostly who was the offender, 582 00:36:04,020 --> 00:36:05,370 Adam Curry: Lauren? Yeah. 583 00:36:07,230 --> 00:36:11,700 John C. Dvorak: Four of the formed, you know, what, Warren 584 00:36:11,700 --> 00:36:15,150 Booker and Klobuchar and Sanders all said, you know, what, know 585 00:36:15,180 --> 00:36:17,970 what, you know, it's like, you know, what, you know, what, 586 00:36:17,970 --> 00:36:20,370 like, quinoa was, you know, what, yeah, what's 587 00:36:20,460 --> 00:36:22,350 Adam Curry: wrong with that? You 588 00:36:22,350 --> 00:36:24,240 John C. Dvorak: know, what, and the other one was, guess what, 589 00:36:24,510 --> 00:36:27,300 which is another thing a 12 year old says, Guess what? Guess 590 00:36:27,300 --> 00:36:31,320 what? Guess what? And guess what? That's wrong. Biden, 591 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:36,030 three, Klobuchar, one on that one. Another one that you can 592 00:36:36,030 --> 00:36:39,210 get, you should be able to guess who's the big offender for this? 593 00:36:39,870 --> 00:36:48,180 Adam Curry: So Warren? 594 00:36:49,650 --> 00:36:52,410 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, now it says so. But she also says, so 595 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:57,600 look, three times total. So here's one of her quotes. So 596 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,630 look, I want to get what works done. 597 00:37:02,070 --> 00:37:05,070 Adam Curry: That's leader talk right there, buddy. Hi. So I 598 00:37:05,070 --> 00:37:06,150 want to get two 599 00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:09,120 John C. Dvorak: words for the whole debate with 32,000, which 600 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:13,170 is a very small book. Climate change was mentioned three 601 00:37:13,170 --> 00:37:20,610 times. billion and billionaires was mentioned 26 times Sure, 602 00:37:20,670 --> 00:37:23,340 Adam Curry: by Warren, mainly by Warren. 603 00:37:24,750 --> 00:37:26,970 John C. Dvorak: Actually, it was mostly by Bernie, 604 00:37:27,150 --> 00:37:29,250 Adam Curry: you know, what really is so odd as I was 605 00:37:29,250 --> 00:37:32,400 thinking about this this morning. I mean, obviously, we 606 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:37,710 live in America, and this is a WWE format. It's completely like 607 00:37:37,710 --> 00:37:39,450 wrestling. But if the 608 00:37:39,450 --> 00:37:40,230 John C. Dvorak: age match, 609 00:37:40,260 --> 00:37:45,420 Adam Curry: yeah, I mean, we're this campaign, everything is 610 00:37:45,420 --> 00:37:48,480 running up to a foot more than of course, we're still a full 611 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:55,350 year ahead of the election. There's plenty of time. And it 612 00:37:55,350 --> 00:37:59,070 can be on C span, that would be an idea. You could have every 613 00:37:59,070 --> 00:38:02,460 single one of these candidates debate each other in an hour 614 00:38:02,460 --> 00:38:07,740 long, actual debate format, mano a mano one on one, and anyone 615 00:38:07,740 --> 00:38:10,710 who's interested could go see it. And mainstream media could 616 00:38:10,710 --> 00:38:14,400 still pull clips from it and do little sound bites. That's what 617 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,490 we should be demanding. Let's have an actual debate. This is 618 00:38:17,490 --> 00:38:21,150 not a debate. This is insulting to anyone's intelligence, who is 619 00:38:21,150 --> 00:38:24,450 actually interested in what these people have to say. And 620 00:38:24,450 --> 00:38:27,150 there's no reason why we wouldn't be able to do that. Why 621 00:38:27,150 --> 00:38:31,530 that? Well, and it's not the media's fault. It's the DNC, the 622 00:38:31,530 --> 00:38:34,470 Democratic National Committee, they are they on purpose? They 623 00:38:34,470 --> 00:38:38,100 don't want that to happen. In fact, it was someone mentioned, 624 00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:44,550 I think it might have been was a Tulsi. And I don't know, I can't 625 00:38:44,550 --> 00:38:46,860 remember if it was on the debate or not. But someone said, Hey, 626 00:38:46,860 --> 00:38:50,040 I'd really like the league of women voters to come in and, 627 00:38:50,490 --> 00:38:54,630 and, and take a hold of these debates. This was Tulsi. But she 628 00:38:54,630 --> 00:38:58,050 was on an interview somewhere. I said, and you know, I've asked 629 00:38:58,050 --> 00:39:02,250 the league of women voters to take over the televised, I know, 630 00:39:02,250 --> 00:39:06,270 they left out of disgust. They left they they were the ones 631 00:39:06,270 --> 00:39:09,870 that set it up. And then once it became this mainstream, the only 632 00:39:09,870 --> 00:39:13,110 two parties get to do a debate. The league of women voters said 633 00:39:13,110 --> 00:39:17,490 see you and they left and it's been it's me. This is so 634 00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:22,110 insulting. It's just insulting what they're doing. And it's not 635 00:39:22,110 --> 00:39:25,890 even good television anymore. Well, no, it's not that's the 636 00:39:25,890 --> 00:39:29,070 most insulting part to me. Let's go to 637 00:39:30,180 --> 00:39:33,390 John C. Dvorak: the impeach medley just a pretty long, 638 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,730 Adam Curry: it's all right. We'll take a listen. Two years 639 00:39:35,730 --> 00:39:36,180 ago, 640 00:39:36,210 --> 00:39:39,030 Unknown: I started the need to impeach movement, because I knew 641 00:39:39,030 --> 00:39:42,390 there was something desperately wrong at 1600 Pennsylvania 642 00:39:42,390 --> 00:39:42,870 Avenue. 643 00:39:43,049 --> 00:39:48,449 impeachment is the way that we establish that this man will not 644 00:39:48,449 --> 00:39:52,049 be permitted to break the law over and over without 645 00:39:52,049 --> 00:39:53,099 consequences. 646 00:39:53,130 --> 00:39:56,310 John C. Dvorak: Our framers imagined this moment, a moment 647 00:39:56,310 --> 00:40:00,360 where we would have a corrupt President and our framers Stan 648 00:40:00,390 --> 00:40:03,540 rightly designed our system of democracy to say there will be 649 00:40:03,540 --> 00:40:06,600 checks and balances. This is one of those moments 650 00:40:06,630 --> 00:40:08,340 Adam Curry: I support impeachment. But we shouldn't 651 00:40:08,340 --> 00:40:11,370 have any illusions that impeaching Donald Trump will one 652 00:40:11,370 --> 00:40:14,520 be successful or to erase the problems that got him elected in 653 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:15,390 2016. 654 00:40:15,450 --> 00:40:18,270 Unknown: We have to impeach this President and majority of 655 00:40:18,270 --> 00:40:21,030 Americans not only support impeachment, they support 656 00:40:21,030 --> 00:40:22,620 removal, he should be removed. 657 00:40:22,890 --> 00:40:26,100 The President has left the Congress with no choice. And 658 00:40:26,100 --> 00:40:29,490 this is not just about holding the President accountable for 659 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,070 not just the things emerging in these investigations, but 660 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,250 actions that he has confessed to on television. 661 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,670 It is absolutely imperative to go forward with impeachment. I 662 00:40:38,670 --> 00:40:42,750 hope that he is impeached. But I think what would be a disaster 663 00:40:43,230 --> 00:40:47,430 if the American people believed that all we were doing is taken 664 00:40:47,430 --> 00:40:52,590 on Trump, I swore an oath to do my job as a senator do my duty. 665 00:40:52,590 --> 00:40:55,860 This President has violated his I will do my 666 00:40:56,130 --> 00:41:00,030 if the House votes to impeach the Senate, does not vote to 667 00:41:00,030 --> 00:41:03,150 remove Donald Trump, he walks out and he feels exonerated, 668 00:41:03,150 --> 00:41:06,270 further deepening the divides in this country that we cannot 669 00:41:06,270 --> 00:41:07,050 afford. We do 670 00:41:07,050 --> 00:41:09,690 not hold them to account if there is not justice. Not only 671 00:41:09,690 --> 00:41:12,720 have we failed this moment, our constitution in our country, we 672 00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:15,300 have failed everyone who has sacrificed and lay their lives 673 00:41:15,300 --> 00:41:16,950 down on the line. And they cannot 674 00:41:16,950 --> 00:41:21,600 do that. I said from beginning that if in fact, Trump continued 675 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:27,090 to Stonewall what the Congress is entitled to know about his 676 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,630 background, what he did all the accusations in the Muller 677 00:41:30,630 --> 00:41:35,130 report, if they did that, they would have no choice, no choice 678 00:41:35,130 --> 00:41:37,350 but to begin an impeachment proceeding. I would like 679 00:41:37,350 --> 00:41:40,740 Adam Curry: to hear from him about how coddling up to 680 00:41:40,740 --> 00:41:45,150 Vladimir Putin makes America great again. He says it make 681 00:41:45,150 --> 00:41:48,300 America great again, it makes Russia great. Again, 682 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,660 Unknown: this isn't about Donald Trump, but understand. It's 683 00:41:51,660 --> 00:41:54,930 about the next president and the next president and the next 684 00:41:54,930 --> 00:41:57,990 president and the future of this country, 685 00:41:58,020 --> 00:42:01,410 Adam Curry: because a president 10 years or 100 years from now 686 00:42:01,500 --> 00:42:04,920 will look back at this moment and draw the conclusion either 687 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,100 that no one is above the law, or that a president can get away 688 00:42:08,100 --> 00:42:08,670 with anything. 689 00:42:10,170 --> 00:42:15,870 By the way, overnight, ratings are in new low for debate 690 00:42:15,870 --> 00:42:22,140 ratings. The previous debate, which was that was that ABC, I 691 00:42:22,140 --> 00:42:30,240 believe? Maybe Yeah, they had 10 point 7 million viewers, CNN. 8 692 00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:32,700 million viewers, so they can see 693 00:42:32,700 --> 00:42:34,050 John C. Dvorak: more than I thought they'd get. 694 00:42:36,270 --> 00:42:37,170 Unknown: Well, 695 00:42:38,460 --> 00:42:40,770 Adam Curry: it doesn't really matter. It was a bad product. 696 00:42:40,770 --> 00:42:44,040 It's just a bad product. Give me one flag to now starting to 697 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,380 notice this stuff. And ever since you turned me on to it. 698 00:42:47,130 --> 00:42:49,980 Not a single Stars and Stripes anywhere. They don't have to. 699 00:42:50,340 --> 00:42:52,650 But it just kind of seemed if you're going to dress it up as 700 00:42:52,650 --> 00:42:55,140 something Merica then you should do something 701 00:42:55,140 --> 00:43:00,300 Unknown: about it. It's just me. All right. 702 00:43:00,330 --> 00:43:02,340 John C. Dvorak: I got a good one here. I mean, I have a whole 703 00:43:02,340 --> 00:43:02,730 bunch of 704 00:43:03,390 --> 00:43:05,520 Adam Curry: I have a couple and you know, just some some 705 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,400 lighthearted ones. So I can intersperse that if you've got 706 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:09,690 some things that you want. 707 00:43:09,900 --> 00:43:12,510 John C. Dvorak: I have a couple that come by let me go into the 708 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,410 strongest ones. Well, actually, this isn't a Tulsi with her long 709 00:43:16,410 --> 00:43:19,950 pause before she decides to people putting on this debate is 710 00:43:19,950 --> 00:43:24,390 CNN and the New York Times. Yeah. So Tulsi decides to slam 711 00:43:24,420 --> 00:43:26,940 them for good reason. And I'm surprised she should have asked 712 00:43:26,940 --> 00:43:28,650 for an apology on the spot. But let's 713 00:43:28,650 --> 00:43:30,750 Adam Curry: just go back for a second the television portion. 714 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:35,730 Erin Burnett, who looks it looks much better than she did say a 715 00:43:35,730 --> 00:43:38,940 year ago. So she's she's she's cleaned up and she's looking 716 00:43:38,940 --> 00:43:43,200 good. But she's sitting and it was almost like an optical 717 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:47,490 illusion. The way the camera shot was set up when they 718 00:43:47,490 --> 00:43:52,410 introduce her and Anderson and the New York Times guy. She 719 00:43:52,410 --> 00:43:55,860 looks bigger than both of them put together. It was it was 720 00:43:55,860 --> 00:43:58,800 really it was very unfriendly for her. It was like, Holy crap. 721 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,320 Look at these two little miniscule dudes sitting next to 722 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:01,410 her. 723 00:44:01,410 --> 00:44:03,300 John C. Dvorak: She's a big woman. Well, I don't think she 724 00:44:03,300 --> 00:44:05,220 is. But they know she's not. She's not. 725 00:44:05,250 --> 00:44:08,130 Adam Curry: They made her look that way. It was nasty. So yeah, 726 00:44:08,130 --> 00:44:11,430 so CNN. And of course, you've got the New York Times got Eric, 727 00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:12,480 was that his name? Eric. 728 00:44:12,510 --> 00:44:14,580 John C. Dvorak: I don't know. Who was that guy. He was the 729 00:44:14,580 --> 00:44:17,010 most. He was just kind of a dud. 730 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,710 Adam Curry: He's a drip. He's a drone. Oh, he's a drip, drip, 731 00:44:19,710 --> 00:44:22,890 drip, drip. So tell us he's gonna slam them here. 732 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,320 John C. Dvorak: Last week, you said that American troops should 733 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,260 get out of Syria. Now you don't agree with how the president 734 00:44:28,260 --> 00:44:31,140 handled the withdrawal? What would you have done differently? 735 00:44:31,140 --> 00:44:33,480 How would you have pulled out troops without the bloodshed 736 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:34,230 we're seeing now? 737 00:44:34,770 --> 00:44:36,660 Unknown: Oh, first of all, we've got to understand the reality of 738 00:44:36,660 --> 00:44:40,470 the situation there, which is that the slaughter of the Kurds 739 00:44:40,620 --> 00:44:44,040 being done by Turkey is yet another negative consequence of 740 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,460 the regime change war that we've been waging in Syria. Donald 741 00:44:47,460 --> 00:44:52,620 Trump has the blood of the Kurds on his hand. But so do many of 742 00:44:52,620 --> 00:44:55,890 the politicians in our country from both parties who have 743 00:44:55,890 --> 00:44:59,460 supported this ongoing regime change war in Syria that started 744 00:44:59,460 --> 00:45:03,660 in 2000. and 11, along with many in the mainstream media who have 745 00:45:03,660 --> 00:45:07,020 been championing and cheerleading, this regime change 746 00:45:07,050 --> 00:45:14,280 war. Not only that, but New York Times and CNN have also smeared 747 00:45:14,310 --> 00:45:18,960 veterans like myself for calling for an end to this regime change 748 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:23,130 war. Just two days ago, the New York Times put out a an article 749 00:45:23,130 --> 00:45:27,570 saying that I'm a Russian asset and an Assad apologist, and all 750 00:45:27,570 --> 00:45:30,330 these different smears this morning, a CNN commentator said 751 00:45:30,330 --> 00:45:35,790 on national television, that I'm an asset of Russia, completely 752 00:45:35,820 --> 00:45:41,070 despicable. As President, I will end these regime change wars by 753 00:45:41,070 --> 00:45:45,030 doing two things, ending the draconian sanctions that are 754 00:45:45,030 --> 00:45:47,550 really a modern day siege, the likes of which we are seeing 755 00:45:47,550 --> 00:45:50,880 Saudi Arabia, waged against Yemen that have caused 10s and 756 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:55,770 1000s of Syrian civilians to die and to starve. And I would make 757 00:45:55,770 --> 00:45:59,700 sure that we stop supporting terrorists like al Qaeda in 758 00:45:59,700 --> 00:46:03,360 Syria, who have been the ground force in this ongoing regime 759 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,690 change war. I'd like to ask Senator Warren, if she would 760 00:46:06,690 --> 00:46:10,950 join me in calling for an end to this regime change war in Syria 761 00:46:10,950 --> 00:46:11,580 finally. 762 00:46:13,470 --> 00:46:16,410 So I think that we ought to get out of the Middle East. I don't 763 00:46:16,410 --> 00:46:19,230 think we should have troops in the Middle East. But we have to 764 00:46:19,260 --> 00:46:21,570 do it the right way. The smart way. 765 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,020 Adam Curry: It was interesting. A couple of different candidates 766 00:46:25,380 --> 00:46:29,370 tried this. I want okay, I want you to say, is this a new trick? 767 00:46:29,370 --> 00:46:32,940 By the way? I want you to sign up with me for this. Will you 768 00:46:32,940 --> 00:46:35,670 admit to this? I mean, I'm even getting people on Twitter doing 769 00:46:35,670 --> 00:46:38,640 this. So Adam curry, wouldn't you agree that 770 00:46:39,629 --> 00:46:43,229 block? Get out of my feed? It's kind 771 00:46:43,230 --> 00:46:45,390 John C. Dvorak: of the lit Lindsey Graham approach to 772 00:46:45,390 --> 00:46:49,500 asking questions. That's the wouldn't you agree that that's 773 00:46:49,500 --> 00:46:51,630 the way he starts his question with Yeah, 774 00:46:51,870 --> 00:46:58,170 Adam Curry: I was insulted, insulted by Andrew Yang. Oh, you 775 00:46:58,170 --> 00:46:59,250 have a clip. But we 776 00:46:59,250 --> 00:47:02,580 also have to be realistic, that competition doesn't solve all 777 00:47:02,580 --> 00:47:05,910 the problems. It's not like any of us wants to use the fourth 778 00:47:05,910 --> 00:47:08,970 best navigation app. There's a reason why no one is using Bing 779 00:47:08,970 --> 00:47:12,540 today. Sorry, Microsoft is 780 00:47:12,540 --> 00:47:16,140 John C. Dvorak: being at that dance. And that just being 781 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:21,450 Adam Curry: very insulting. We love the beings, we use Bing, I 782 00:47:21,450 --> 00:47:25,050 could not believe we're not nobody. There's a reason why 783 00:47:25,050 --> 00:47:30,780 nobody uses Bing that be us. But he went on to say something I 784 00:47:30,780 --> 00:47:36,630 agree with him to a degree. And it's about breaking up big tech, 785 00:47:36,630 --> 00:47:38,970 because this would that's where this all came from Elizabeth 786 00:47:38,970 --> 00:47:41,430 Warren is all about break him up or break up the big 787 00:47:41,430 --> 00:47:44,790 tech. So it's not like breaking up these big tech companies will 788 00:47:44,820 --> 00:47:48,060 revive main street businesses around the country. And as the 789 00:47:48,060 --> 00:47:51,510 parent of two young children, I'm particularly concerned about 790 00:47:51,630 --> 00:47:55,980 screen use and its effect on our children. Studies clearly show 791 00:47:55,980 --> 00:47:58,530 that we're seeing record levels of anxiety and depression, 792 00:47:58,740 --> 00:48:02,460 coincident with smartphone adoption, and social media use 793 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,010 breaking up the tech companies, there's nothing to make our kids 794 00:48:05,010 --> 00:48:07,500 healthier. What we have to do is we have to hone in on the 795 00:48:07,500 --> 00:48:10,650 specific problems we're trying to solve and use 21st century 796 00:48:10,650 --> 00:48:14,670 solutions for 21st century problems, using a 20th century 797 00:48:14,670 --> 00:48:17,010 antitrust framework will not work. Now. 798 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:21,450 While I agree with him that using antitrust will not work. 799 00:48:21,810 --> 00:48:26,370 He puts the blame on the phone somehow. And I would say the 800 00:48:26,370 --> 00:48:31,260 following. You don't need to break up big tech. You need to 801 00:48:31,260 --> 00:48:35,640 break up with big tech. This is not like television, where you 802 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,120 can only get so many channels and this new unlimited resource 803 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:44,010 this is the internet anybody can post anything they want anywhere 804 00:48:44,010 --> 00:48:47,850 doesn't have to be on Twitter. Now unless you have some ego 805 00:48:47,850 --> 00:48:50,550 issue where you need to have your voice heard consistently 806 00:48:50,550 --> 00:48:55,140 and liked etcetera. Break up with big tech don't break up big 807 00:48:55,140 --> 00:48:58,290 tech. This guy also has no plans. What a fool. 808 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,770 A fool just a fool not 809 00:49:01,770 --> 00:49:03,540 John C. Dvorak: people love that guy. Yeah, well, 810 00:49:03,540 --> 00:49:04,770 Adam Curry: I'm not so in love with him. 811 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,010 John C. Dvorak: I was looking at I have a couple of clips here 812 00:49:08,010 --> 00:49:12,900 that I want to follow do a little deeper dive on. First of 813 00:49:12,900 --> 00:49:18,240 all, they would I looked at all the fact check fact check. They 814 00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:22,170 have all these fact check files. And they have these going live 815 00:49:22,170 --> 00:49:25,470 and they the stuff that they fact check was they miss we 816 00:49:25,470 --> 00:49:28,980 looked at the obvious ones that needed to be fact checked. But 817 00:49:28,980 --> 00:49:33,600 in fact, they didn't. They did no fact checking. They just saw 818 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,420 a few things. If they did if the guy wasn't slamming Trump 819 00:49:36,420 --> 00:49:40,230 correctly, right. Then they'd fact check in fact that the last 820 00:49:40,230 --> 00:49:43,320 total Tulsi clip there was a huge mistake she made in there. 821 00:49:43,620 --> 00:49:46,710 Do you remember what it was? No. It's pretty it was obvious to me 822 00:49:46,710 --> 00:49:51,450 when she said it. She said that the battle that blowing maiming, 823 00:49:51,450 --> 00:49:54,690 killing and fighting in Yemen has resulted in all these Syrian 824 00:49:54,690 --> 00:49:55,770 deaths. Yeah, no, 825 00:49:55,770 --> 00:49:58,500 Adam Curry: I I did hear that. And that was a that was just a 826 00:49:58,500 --> 00:50:00,900 complete faux pa Yeah, it was a football. 827 00:50:00,930 --> 00:50:03,210 Yeah, they should affect how they fact check fact check fact 828 00:50:03,210 --> 00:50:03,750 check false. 829 00:50:05,220 --> 00:50:08,910 John C. Dvorak: So let's listen to a couple of things here. 830 00:50:09,810 --> 00:50:13,530 Let's listen to this one. This is Biden, this debate Biden on 831 00:50:13,530 --> 00:50:17,700 George Washington. Okay, 832 00:50:17,940 --> 00:50:21,210 Unknown: my son's True statement speaks for itself. What I think 833 00:50:21,210 --> 00:50:25,200 is important is we focus on why it's so important to remove this 834 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:30,420 man from office on the 17th. Look, the fact that George 835 00:50:30,420 --> 00:50:34,590 Washington was worried on the first time he spoke after being 836 00:50:34,590 --> 00:50:38,340 elected President, that what we had to worry about is foreign 837 00:50:38,370 --> 00:50:41,670 interference in our elections, it was the greatest threat to 838 00:50:41,670 --> 00:50:46,500 America. This president on three occasions, three occasions, has 839 00:50:46,500 --> 00:50:49,380 invited foreign governments and heads of government to get 840 00:50:49,380 --> 00:50:51,570 engaged in trying to alter our elections. 841 00:50:53,100 --> 00:50:55,830 Adam Curry: And this is why you sent me a link to drop into the 842 00:50:55,830 --> 00:50:56,640 show notes. 843 00:50:56,790 --> 00:51:00,810 John C. Dvorak: Exactly. I have George Washington speech. And 844 00:51:00,810 --> 00:51:04,560 I'll read what he said again, look, my son did nothing wrong, 845 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,140 I did nothing wrong. I carried out the policy, United States 846 00:51:07,140 --> 00:51:09,060 Government rooting out corruption in Ukraine, and 847 00:51:09,060 --> 00:51:12,390 that's what we should be focusing on. He says my son 848 00:51:12,390 --> 00:51:15,390 statement statement speaks for itself. He spoke about today, my 849 00:51:15,390 --> 00:51:18,060 sense statement speaks for itself, he actually repeats 850 00:51:18,060 --> 00:51:21,000 himself there. What I think is important is that we focus on 851 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,760 why it's so important to remove this man from office. So he's 852 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,700 just lost it. Then he saw he's lost his train of thought. And 853 00:51:26,700 --> 00:51:31,860 he says this, on the look, the fact that George Washington who 854 00:51:32,130 --> 00:51:35,880 worried on the first time he spoke about being elected 855 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,040 president is was what he actually said, it's just like, 856 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:42,570 it's gobbledygook. That we had to worry, he used the word 857 00:51:42,570 --> 00:51:46,440 again. He said we had to worry about is 858 00:51:49,740 --> 00:51:51,600 Adam Curry: waiting, whatever it is that that's in that clip we 859 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:56,100 just heard. Yeah, if you listen to amazing how your brain will 860 00:51:56,100 --> 00:51:58,740 put such disparate, you 861 00:51:58,740 --> 00:52:00,600 John C. Dvorak: piece a lot of it together when you listen to 862 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:06,090 him talk. But what he said was, on the first time, he spoke 863 00:52:06,090 --> 00:52:11,370 after being elected president that what we had to worry about 864 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:15,420 is foreign interference in our elections, it was the greatest 865 00:52:15,420 --> 00:52:18,960 threat to America. This president on three occasions, 866 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,230 three occasions, has invited foreign governments in the heads 867 00:52:22,230 --> 00:52:24,540 of government to get engaged. Now the three occasions by the 868 00:52:24,540 --> 00:52:29,100 way, you remember what those are? I do the three one where he 869 00:52:29,100 --> 00:52:32,940 goes jokingly said Russia, if you've got the 30,000 emails 870 00:52:32,940 --> 00:52:37,410 released them. Yeah, that's why this one, too, was when he asked 871 00:52:37,410 --> 00:52:39,600 the Ukrainian guy Hey, if you get a chance to look into the 872 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:44,460 Biden's, and three was when he said just out casually to China. 873 00:52:44,850 --> 00:52:47,940 And I want to just say casually that China look into the Biden's 874 00:52:48,690 --> 00:52:54,360 so those are the three things. Meanwhile, George Washington a 875 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:58,560 goddess speech, he says the word foreign is not used in the 876 00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:02,280 speech. The foreign intervention is not used in the speech. The 877 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,820 word intervention is not used in the speech. He talks nothing 878 00:53:05,820 --> 00:53:09,840 about this is a lie. He talks about emoluments, this is an 879 00:53:09,870 --> 00:53:14,550 absolute lie. The real speech which we have in the show notes, 880 00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,570 talks about how God is great and how God is overseeing the 881 00:53:18,570 --> 00:53:22,020 country and and guiding us with His invisible hand. That's 882 00:53:22,020 --> 00:53:24,840 pretty much what the speech is his first speech after he got 883 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,720 elected, it's his inaugural address, except for the 884 00:53:27,750 --> 00:53:31,320 Adam Curry: the end of that talks about emoluments and his 885 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,170 business dealings. I thought that was kind of interesting. 886 00:53:34,860 --> 00:53:39,330 The very end of his speech, who have George Washington speech? 887 00:53:40,020 --> 00:53:42,690 Yeah, I mean, I've read it you sent me the thing I'm reading 888 00:53:42,690 --> 00:53:45,420 through this, and I, I don't get it. I thought it was going to be 889 00:53:45,420 --> 00:53:47,670 about emoluments, there's of course, there's nothing in there 890 00:53:47,670 --> 00:53:52,920 about being worried about foreign intervention or No, 891 00:53:53,250 --> 00:53:55,290 John C. Dvorak: no, nothing be. And then if you start thinking 892 00:53:55,290 --> 00:53:59,460 about it, if you're thinking about historically, when ever 893 00:54:00,330 --> 00:54:04,530 did any president before just recently ever discussed or care 894 00:54:04,530 --> 00:54:09,510 about foreign intervention, let alone George Washington. So this 895 00:54:09,510 --> 00:54:11,790 was a blatant lie. 896 00:54:11,819 --> 00:54:15,749 Adam Curry: Well, Joe did a lot of lying. He lied about assault. 897 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,920 John C. Dvorak: Was that particular incident called out 898 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,150 by these fact checkers? 899 00:54:22,260 --> 00:54:25,830 Adam Curry: No, no. But but more interest or equally interesting 900 00:54:25,830 --> 00:54:30,990 to me was how Anderson Cooper framed that question, and I just 901 00:54:30,990 --> 00:54:35,100 want us to listen to that this is a televised debate. We want 902 00:54:35,100 --> 00:54:39,390 to hear what people have to say he's going at the former Vice 903 00:54:39,390 --> 00:54:42,990 President with a tough question, which will not be answered, but 904 00:54:42,990 --> 00:54:45,210 it's a tough question. And here's how he frames it. 905 00:54:45,240 --> 00:54:45,720 Impeachment 906 00:54:45,750 --> 00:54:48,480 Unknown: Inquiry is centred on President Trump's attempts to 907 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,690 get political dirt from Ukraine on Vice President Biden and his 908 00:54:51,690 --> 00:54:55,140 son Hunter. Mr. Vice President, President Trump has falsely 909 00:54:55,170 --> 00:54:58,320 falsely accused your son of doing something wrong while 910 00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,170 serving on a company board in Ukraine. I want to point out 911 00:55:01,170 --> 00:55:03,960 there is no evidence no evidence doing by either one of you. 912 00:55:04,140 --> 00:55:06,900 Having said that, on Sunday, you announced that I mean, 913 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,900 Adam Curry: for for a well, I don't know if Anderson considers 914 00:55:09,900 --> 00:55:12,930 himself a journalist. But I think that's kind of an 915 00:55:12,930 --> 00:55:13,920 journalistic 916 00:55:15,450 --> 00:55:16,320 you just, 917 00:55:16,500 --> 00:55:18,900 John C. Dvorak: you know, I we have no Kenneth shocked that I 918 00:55:18,900 --> 00:55:24,090 didn't catch that. Well, you should watch that clip. That 919 00:55:24,090 --> 00:55:27,660 clip proves that the bias is ridiculous. But let me go into 920 00:55:27,660 --> 00:55:29,700 my second fact check. 921 00:55:31,020 --> 00:55:31,830 Unknown: Fact Check false. 922 00:55:32,700 --> 00:55:34,920 John C. Dvorak: This is the we're gonna go debates. This is 923 00:55:35,220 --> 00:55:37,290 Camela on Donald Trump. 924 00:55:39,270 --> 00:55:42,450 Pelosi has said that members of Congress have to be in her words 925 00:55:42,540 --> 00:55:45,450 fair to the President and give him a chance to exonerate 926 00:55:45,450 --> 00:55:48,390 himself. You've already said that, based on everything you've 927 00:55:48,390 --> 00:55:51,360 seen, you would vote to remove him from office. Is that being 928 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:52,320 fair to the President? 929 00:55:52,950 --> 00:55:56,850 Well, it's just being observant because he has committed crimes 930 00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:00,390 in plain sight. I mean, it's shocking, but he told us who he 931 00:56:00,390 --> 00:56:03,330 was. Maya Angelou told us two years ago, listen to somebody 932 00:56:03,330 --> 00:56:05,760 when they tell you who they are the first time during that 933 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,670 election, Donald Trump told us he could shoot somebody on Fifth 934 00:56:08,670 --> 00:56:15,000 Avenue and get away with it. That's right. Nailed it. Wrong. 935 00:56:16,470 --> 00:56:18,990 Adam Curry: Oh, do you mean it's a fact check fall? So do tell. 936 00:56:19,290 --> 00:56:21,930 John C. Dvorak: But that again, nobody put this in their fat 937 00:56:21,930 --> 00:56:25,530 checklist because it would didn't didn't work in the scheme 938 00:56:25,530 --> 00:56:28,650 of things. Here's Trump's clip of what he actually said. 939 00:56:28,919 --> 00:56:29,789 And he has come. 940 00:56:32,340 --> 00:56:34,170 What does it shoot someone? 941 00:56:34,290 --> 00:56:37,590 Adam Curry: Okay, you make me work today, man. Sorry. They 942 00:56:37,590 --> 00:56:39,570 Unknown: say I have the most loyal people. Did you ever see 943 00:56:39,570 --> 00:56:42,720 that? Where I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot 944 00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:45,240 somebody and I wouldn't lose any voters? Ok. It's like 945 00:56:45,240 --> 00:56:45,690 incredible. 946 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,810 Adam Curry: Yeah, it's a little different than than how she 947 00:56:48,810 --> 00:56:49,350 framed it. 948 00:56:49,980 --> 00:56:52,410 John C. Dvorak: She said he could shoot somebody and get 949 00:56:52,410 --> 00:56:55,980 away with it. He said, I could shoot somebody and I wouldn't 950 00:56:55,980 --> 00:56:59,940 lose any voters. That is not the same facts. Back 951 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,220 Adam Curry: check. False. Yes, fact check false. 952 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,710 This is like shooting fish in a barrel. You know, it's it's, I 953 00:57:07,710 --> 00:57:11,340 do like it. It's let me let me give us a little bit of 954 00:57:11,370 --> 00:57:15,420 information. And I think you may be the only person who 955 00:57:15,420 --> 00:57:19,980 understood what Joe Biden was saying here. I saw Twitter go 956 00:57:19,980 --> 00:57:25,380 crazy. I saw red Republican Twitter go. He's lasted. He had 957 00:57:25,380 --> 00:57:30,540 no What was he talking about? He's crazy. This guy who clips 958 00:57:30,540 --> 00:57:31,980 coupons on Wall Street. 959 00:57:32,009 --> 00:57:35,189 Do you believe that Senator Sanders and Senator Warren's 960 00:57:35,219 --> 00:57:36,959 wealth tax plans do that? 961 00:57:37,439 --> 00:57:40,769 Unknown: No, look, I demonising most people. What I've talked 962 00:57:40,769 --> 00:57:43,799 about is how you get things done. And the way to get things 963 00:57:43,799 --> 00:57:47,699 done is take a look at the tax code right now. The idea we have 964 00:57:47,699 --> 00:57:51,449 to start rewarding work, not just wealth, I would eliminate 965 00:57:51,449 --> 00:57:54,839 the capital gains tax, that would I would raise the capital 966 00:57:54,839 --> 00:57:56,399 gains tax to the highest 967 00:57:56,490 --> 00:57:59,100 Adam Curry: it didn't it didn't help that he flubbed that one 968 00:57:59,100 --> 00:58:01,200 that didn't make anything good tax 969 00:58:01,350 --> 00:58:04,200 Unknown: that in I would I would raise the capital gains tax to 970 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:08,400 the highest rate of 39.5%. I would double it. Because guess 971 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,400 what, why in God's name, should someone who's clipping coupons 972 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:15,270 on the stock market make in fact pay a lower tax rate than 973 00:58:15,270 --> 00:58:19,020 someone who in fact is, like I said, a schoolteacher and a 974 00:58:19,020 --> 00:58:21,660 firefighter is ridiculous, and they pay a lower tax. 975 00:58:21,690 --> 00:58:26,280 Adam Curry: So there were all these RNC GOP Twitter accounts 976 00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,970 going He's lost it. Who thinks people on Wall Street are 977 00:58:29,970 --> 00:58:32,940 clipping coupons? Assassin, they're 978 00:58:32,940 --> 00:58:35,460 John C. Dvorak: referring to clipping coupons, the old 979 00:58:35,460 --> 00:58:38,460 fashioned way of clipping them off the bonds you'd buy? Yes. 980 00:58:38,460 --> 00:58:41,520 coupons on and you clip the coupons off? Yes, exactly. 981 00:58:41,550 --> 00:58:44,100 Adam Curry: This is what people don't understand. And, and I 982 00:58:44,100 --> 00:58:48,090 asked a lot of people, no one understood this. And I was I was 983 00:58:48,090 --> 00:58:51,510 quite frankly shocked at No, I mean, there are still people who 984 00:58:51,510 --> 00:58:54,990 clip coupons, take them to the issuing bank against their 985 00:58:54,990 --> 00:58:57,690 interest check. They yeah, there's there's people who 986 00:58:57,690 --> 00:59:01,290 actually cut them off and now of course, the only plate pay 987 00:59:01,290 --> 00:59:06,900 capital gains tax, which is which was his point. But that 988 00:59:06,900 --> 00:59:08,760 and I'm going to use the word for the second time. 989 00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:13,860 anachronism. Joe Biden is an anachronism. He cannot 990 00:59:13,860 --> 00:59:19,260 communicate in terms that anyone except to old fogy, white dudes, 991 00:59:19,260 --> 00:59:24,660 you and me's understand maybe Horowitz? Or was Horowitz 992 00:59:24,660 --> 00:59:25,290 reasonably 993 00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,180 John C. Dvorak: well, anybody in the business would know it? 994 00:59:27,810 --> 00:59:30,870 Adam Curry: It nobody on Twitter, none of the talking 995 00:59:30,870 --> 00:59:33,750 heads. They all laughed. They all laughed at him. And of 996 00:59:33,750 --> 00:59:37,410 course, he's laughable because he makes gaffe after gaffe. But 997 00:59:37,830 --> 00:59:42,060 this was, I mean, instead of saying that you got a hedge fund 998 00:59:42,060 --> 00:59:47,580 manager or you know, it. No, he conjures up the image of old 999 00:59:47,580 --> 00:59:51,690 people clipping coupons out of the Saturday flyer to go buy 1000 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:56,610 milk. What a moron. I'm sorry. It's cruel. They keep putting 1001 00:59:56,610 --> 01:00:01,650 this man on the stage. It's cruel. Well 1002 01:00:03,959 --> 01:00:06,719 John C. Dvorak: yeah, there was a fuss over this, but he was 1003 01:00:06,719 --> 01:00:11,099 actually right and except I think he's probably more along 1004 01:00:11,099 --> 01:00:13,799 the lines of he'd like to be his he's obviously one of those guys 1005 01:00:13,799 --> 01:00:15,269 that got a bunch of coupon bonds 1006 01:00:17,910 --> 01:00:21,960 Adam Curry: on it. I don't want to pay taxes off my tips. Oh, 1007 01:00:23,070 --> 01:00:27,600 John C. Dvorak: yeah. Oh my god. We got other I got a second half 1008 01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:32,220 of camera laughter she made that. That insane comment she's 1009 01:00:32,220 --> 01:00:37,470 still slam and Trump is another 12 seconds over. 1010 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,560 And he has consistently since he won been selling out the 1011 01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,290 American people. He's been selling out working people. He's 1012 01:00:43,290 --> 01:00:45,930 been selling out our values. He's been selling out national 1013 01:00:45,930 --> 01:00:49,170 security. And on this issue with Ukraine, he has been selling out 1014 01:00:49,170 --> 01:00:50,250 our democracy. 1015 01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:56,250 Okay, I did this is a question I have to ask you. Okay. Bye by 1016 01:00:57,690 --> 01:01:03,480 just mentioning Joe Biden to the Ukrainian comedian, President, 1017 01:01:04,260 --> 01:01:09,270 or prime minister or president. President think? How is that 1018 01:01:09,270 --> 01:01:11,160 selling out our democracy? 1019 01:01:13,050 --> 01:01:13,830 Adam Curry: Oh, well, 1020 01:01:14,130 --> 01:01:15,720 John C. Dvorak: says he's selling out everything but I 1021 01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:17,280 don't I don't know specifically 1022 01:01:17,820 --> 01:01:20,160 Adam Curry: selling. I mean, by the same token, you can't 1023 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:24,300 explain why he's endangered. Our national security means the same 1024 01:01:24,300 --> 01:01:27,090 bullcrap. That's exactly what the television is telling me. 1025 01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:32,580 He's endangered our as our politicians. Nancy Chuck Stanny. 1026 01:01:32,610 --> 01:01:35,280 They're all saying the endangered our national 1027 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,470 security. If you can explain that, then maybe we can 1028 01:01:37,470 --> 01:01:41,880 understand the sold out part. No, 1029 01:01:42,060 --> 01:01:44,580 John C. Dvorak: they should be more explanatory. Like it's an 1030 01:01:44,580 --> 01:01:48,300 explanation please. What do you mean specifically when you say 1031 01:01:48,300 --> 01:01:48,990 these things 1032 01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:53,160 Adam Curry: I thought Beto ended his ended his run during this 1033 01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:53,790 debate. 1034 01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:57,750 John C. Dvorak: He ended his run way before this. 1035 01:01:58,740 --> 01:02:04,050 Adam Curry: This was this was about the gun buyback scheme 1036 01:02:04,050 --> 01:02:07,050 that he's touting in the gun buyback scheme is one thing, but 1037 01:02:07,050 --> 01:02:09,870 he took it one step further, which I think just ended him 1038 01:02:09,870 --> 01:02:10,470 right there. 1039 01:02:10,470 --> 01:02:12,090 John C. Dvorak: That's the follow up your expectations 1040 01:02:12,090 --> 01:02:16,200 aside, your website says you will find people who don't give 1041 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:19,830 up their weapons that doesn't take those weapons off the 1042 01:02:19,830 --> 01:02:23,580 streets. So to be clear, exactly how are you going to take away 1043 01:02:23,580 --> 01:02:26,700 weapons from people who do not want to give them up and you 1044 01:02:26,700 --> 01:02:27,780 don't know where they are? 1045 01:02:28,260 --> 01:02:31,980 Unknown: If someone does not turn in an AR 15 or an AK 47, 1046 01:02:31,980 --> 01:02:35,310 one of these weapons of war or brings out in public and 1047 01:02:35,310 --> 01:02:38,520 branches it in an attempt to intimidate as we saw when we 1048 01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:42,360 were at Kent State recently, then that weapon will be taken 1049 01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,540 from them. If they persist, there will be other consequences 1050 01:02:45,570 --> 01:02:49,680 from law enforcement. But the expectation is that Americans 1051 01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,170 will follow the law I believe in this country. I believe in my 1052 01:02:52,170 --> 01:02:54,540 fellow Americans, I believe that they will do the right thank 1053 01:02:54,540 --> 01:02:54,720 you. 1054 01:02:54,990 --> 01:02:56,790 Adam Curry: We will take your guns or there will be 1055 01:02:56,790 --> 01:03:01,650 consequences for you. Oh, yeah. 1056 01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:06,360 Good luck, Beto. Good luck. I'm amazed that I'm back into Texas 1057 01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:10,440 talking like that. Yeah. Oh, 1058 01:03:10,500 --> 01:03:13,230 I'm sorry. I didn't know you were so bored. You walked away. 1059 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,030 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, better. I can't really sit close to the 1060 01:03:18,030 --> 01:03:19,920 screen and get anxious. I want to bust up the 1061 01:03:20,310 --> 01:03:22,530 Adam Curry: cans it took us to beto 1062 01:03:23,730 --> 01:03:26,220 John C. Dvorak: Beto, I got no Beto clips. 1063 01:03:26,250 --> 01:03:28,680 Adam Curry: That was that was my my was my one and only 1064 01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:33,390 John C. Dvorak: more than more than enough. I will say that, by 1065 01:03:33,390 --> 01:03:37,260 the way. There was some sort of macho thing going on with budaj 1066 01:03:37,260 --> 01:03:42,840 edge and Tulsi now that was cool. He's she was an officer I 1067 01:03:42,930 --> 01:03:47,220 and he was like God, I think he's like a ground troop or 1068 01:03:47,220 --> 01:03:49,170 something. But he was just talked about her 1069 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:52,320 Adam Curry: he drove. He drove a Humvee I think, 1070 01:03:52,890 --> 01:03:56,820 John C. Dvorak: no, okay, well, he's in harm's way. But here he 1071 01:03:56,820 --> 01:03:59,400 slams, here's a little short clip of him slamming her. 1072 01:03:59,459 --> 01:04:01,649 Unknown: Well, respectfully, Congresswoman, I think that is 1073 01:04:01,649 --> 01:04:05,819 dead wrong. The Slaughter going on in Syria is not a consequence 1074 01:04:05,999 --> 01:04:09,479 of American presence. It's a consequence of a withdrawal and 1075 01:04:09,479 --> 01:04:13,919 a betrayal by this president of American allies and American 1076 01:04:13,919 --> 01:04:14,519 values. Yeah, 1077 01:04:14,549 --> 01:04:17,069 Adam Curry: they're both wrong. They both have 1078 01:04:18,900 --> 01:04:21,150 both. That's ridiculous. 1079 01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,030 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, you're but people should go back and listen 1080 01:04:24,030 --> 01:04:27,360 to the last show where you did a takedown of this whole Syrian 1081 01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:31,200 boots on the ground thing. Yeah, that is, could be a whole show. 1082 01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:32,850 But in most instances, just 1083 01:04:32,850 --> 01:04:35,070 Adam Curry: remember no boots on the ground. That was the 1084 01:04:35,070 --> 01:04:39,090 promise. These are not combat troops. They are not fighting. 1085 01:04:39,270 --> 01:04:42,990 In fact, they were not allowed to fight, assist and advise 1086 01:04:43,470 --> 01:04:47,490 training only. Or maybe that wasn't true. Who knows. 1087 01:04:47,970 --> 01:04:50,430 John C. Dvorak: Now the biggest stink which you may not have 1088 01:04:50,430 --> 01:04:54,270 picked up on, but I picked up on it because of some some 1089 01:04:55,260 --> 01:05:02,340 following I do on Twitter, and it's a huge, huge stink is when 1090 01:05:02,340 --> 01:05:03,930 Biden went after. 1091 01:05:04,380 --> 01:05:06,750 Adam Curry: Yes. Oh, I'm sure that was that was smelly. 1092 01:05:07,859 --> 01:05:11,579 John C. Dvorak: And this really brought the feminazis out and I 1093 01:05:11,639 --> 01:05:14,939 I'm sorry, I'm if I ever say that word again, you can honk 1094 01:05:14,939 --> 01:05:15,479 the horn. 1095 01:05:15,929 --> 01:05:19,319 Adam Curry: That was, I mean, that's really I mean, maybe I 1096 01:05:19,319 --> 01:05:21,809 should do the show was Rush Limbaugh. I mean, why don't we 1097 01:05:21,809 --> 01:05:22,349 do that? 1098 01:05:23,850 --> 01:05:28,290 John C. Dvorak: We make more money. guy knows how to make 1099 01:05:28,290 --> 01:05:29,640 money. And the 1100 01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,010 Adam Curry: guy that goes to commercial break and says, time 1101 01:05:32,010 --> 01:05:35,520 for another insanely profitable commercial break. That guy's 1102 01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:36,420 doing okay. 1103 01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:42,030 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, he does that. But he did. They really 1104 01:05:42,030 --> 01:05:44,970 came out of the woodwork on this one. And I do have the clip. 1105 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:49,650 This is pretty much this isn't a whole thing. But this is a 49 1106 01:05:49,650 --> 01:05:52,350 seconds of the patronising part that I think got everyone all 1107 01:05:52,380 --> 01:05:57,570 irked when he she's talking about the great job she did on a 1108 01:05:57,570 --> 01:06:01,260 Consumer Protection Act. Right and this thing good wishes would 1109 01:06:01,260 --> 01:06:03,540 you know, this is gonna stop robo call. It didn't do 1110 01:06:03,540 --> 01:06:06,120 anything, by the way, from what I can tell. But according to her 1111 01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,910 it saved consumers. 12 $50 billion. 1112 01:06:09,330 --> 01:06:12,990 Adam Curry: This was this. As a part of this. She helped oversee 1113 01:06:12,990 --> 01:06:18,930 tarp. The bet the banker bailout she was overseeing that. Yeah. 1114 01:06:19,020 --> 01:06:21,930 People forget work. Yeah. Good. I think that's what Joe Biden 1115 01:06:21,930 --> 01:06:24,000 said they want to get it was clear. 1116 01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:29,370 John C. Dvorak: Wait, wait. He was kind of he got annoyed as 1117 01:06:29,370 --> 01:06:33,480 she was going on and on and on. And so he kind of jumps in at 1118 01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,640 some point. And then they do a little back and forth. And it 1119 01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:39,060 was the way it was done. And he also laughs at her. He's 1120 01:06:39,060 --> 01:06:42,630 laughing at the woman which makes a course this is bad. If 1121 01:06:42,660 --> 01:06:46,110 you ever laugh at a woman this brings out the old horrible Oh, 1122 01:06:46,110 --> 01:06:49,470 yeah, no, you can't be bad. That bad, bad, bad. So this is really 1123 01:06:49,470 --> 01:06:53,100 a major gaffe, I guess. Here it is. They want to 1124 01:06:53,100 --> 01:06:56,010 Unknown: get something done in America, we have to get out 1125 01:06:56,010 --> 01:06:58,380 there and the things that touch 1126 01:06:58,439 --> 01:07:04,349 their script referenced me, I agreed with the great job she 1127 01:07:04,349 --> 01:07:08,939 did. And I went on the floor and got you votes. I got votes for 1128 01:07:08,939 --> 01:07:12,539 that bill. I convinced people to vote for it. So let's get those 1129 01:07:12,539 --> 01:07:13,499 things straight to 1130 01:07:14,310 --> 01:07:15,690 Senator Warren do want to respond. 1131 01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:23,580 I am deeply grateful to President Obama, so hard to make 1132 01:07:23,580 --> 01:07:30,300 sure that agency was passed into law. And I am deeply grateful to 1133 01:07:30,300 --> 01:07:36,180 every single person who fought for it, and who helped pass it 1134 01:07:36,210 --> 01:07:42,030 into law. But understand that our job is your job. Thank you. 1135 01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:43,260 Now 1136 01:07:46,140 --> 01:07:51,540 Adam Curry: I wonder how many people really picked up on him 1137 01:07:51,540 --> 01:07:52,440 being cynical. 1138 01:07:53,370 --> 01:07:56,070 John C. Dvorak: When he when he says you did a hell of a job to 1139 01:07:56,070 --> 01:07:59,460 me, when he said doing it. He didn't quite get it outright. 1140 01:07:59,460 --> 01:08:04,320 But he was saying you did a great job doing your job. Right? 1141 01:08:04,350 --> 01:08:06,450 That's what got everybody upset. 1142 01:08:06,509 --> 01:08:08,369 Adam Curry: I'm sorry. I didn't even hear it that way. Because 1143 01:08:08,369 --> 01:08:12,989 when I think of the Consumer Protection Bureau, enabled by 1144 01:08:12,989 --> 01:08:16,109 the Act, which Elizabeth Warren oversaw, and then was kicked out 1145 01:08:16,109 --> 01:08:20,789 of if you recall, she was kicked out of it by Obama. Because she 1146 01:08:20,789 --> 01:08:27,149 was no good. At it, she did a horrible job. We still have 1147 01:08:27,149 --> 01:08:31,799 robocalls I still get all kinds of borderline fraudulent offers 1148 01:08:31,799 --> 01:08:32,939 in the mail. I mean, I 1149 01:08:32,940 --> 01:08:35,160 John C. Dvorak: got two calls from Apple support the other day 1150 01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:40,470 again, from my iCloud account. compromised. Oh, what's your 1151 01:08:40,470 --> 01:08:45,450 password quick? Oh, you may have an iCloud account, but okay. No, 1152 01:08:45,450 --> 01:08:51,120 of course not. Yeah, my password is f you see. 1153 01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:55,560 Adam Curry: That's a funny one. I gotta remember to use that. 1154 01:08:55,890 --> 01:09:02,130 Yeah. I thought the now first I thought, just an AI. We can wrap 1155 01:09:02,130 --> 01:09:08,070 this up maybe. In general, I felt that Bernie Sanders was 1156 01:09:08,130 --> 01:09:12,030 what a comeback. A guy who comes back from a heart attack. He's 1157 01:09:12,030 --> 01:09:15,180 smart. And I think he fixed his teeth too. While he was in 1158 01:09:15,180 --> 01:09:17,130 there, like, you know, you're out anyway, let's fix these 1159 01:09:17,130 --> 01:09:24,420 teeth. And so he was all smiles. He was funny. He was very clear. 1160 01:09:24,450 --> 01:09:27,660 Now he had, he's clear and not having any solutions. But he 1161 01:09:27,660 --> 01:09:30,660 just consistently hammers with people are sick and tired of it. 1162 01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:33,930 They're sick and tired of the cost of, of health insurance, 1163 01:09:33,930 --> 01:09:36,720 sick and tired of the cost of prescriptions. They're sick and 1164 01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:37,110 tired. And 1165 01:09:37,110 --> 01:09:39,600 John C. Dvorak: this message is simple. It's very simple. It's 1166 01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,420 appealing to a lot of people. Not a lot of bullcrap. 1167 01:09:42,450 --> 01:09:44,670 Adam Curry: And then he had the joke of the night. I want to 1168 01:09:44,670 --> 01:09:45,300 start with you. 1169 01:09:45,330 --> 01:09:46,860 I want to start we're moving on. 1170 01:09:47,639 --> 01:09:50,969 Unknown: I'm feeling great, but I would like well, I want to 1171 01:09:51,030 --> 01:09:52,650 I want to start by saying 1172 01:09:57,600 --> 01:09:59,790 Adam Curry: Senator Sanders is in favour of medical marijuana. 1173 01:09:59,790 --> 01:10:02,250 I want To make sure that's clear as well. Senator Sanders 1174 01:10:04,410 --> 01:10:06,510 did you ever did you catch that when he says I'm not on it 1175 01:10:06,510 --> 01:10:06,990 tonight? 1176 01:10:08,580 --> 01:10:11,160 John C. Dvorak: Oh, no, I thought he said not all the 1177 01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:14,520 Adam Curry: time. No. He says I'm not on it tonight. He has 1178 01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:15,060 humour. 1179 01:10:15,090 --> 01:10:18,240 John C. Dvorak: That is cute. Yeah. Everything's great. Quick, 1180 01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:21,990 He's quick. Yeah. There's not a beat missed on that comeback. 1181 01:10:21,990 --> 01:10:25,470 Adam Curry: And Bernie have lots of funny, funny moments. The 1182 01:10:25,470 --> 01:10:28,110 problem with Bernie is he's not a Democrat, you know, because 1183 01:10:28,110 --> 01:10:31,530 I'll never let him become the nominee ever in a million years. 1184 01:10:31,530 --> 01:10:35,310 Like, I don't even know why he's doing it. Other than he really 1185 01:10:35,310 --> 01:10:37,710 has conviction and truly believes in it, which I 1186 01:10:37,710 --> 01:10:41,880 appreciate that I really do. Elizabeth Warren, it falls in 1187 01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:47,910 the drip category. Get out of here. And you know, seeing what 1188 01:10:47,910 --> 01:10:56,040 we saw and basing this on three years of prediction. The obvious 1189 01:10:56,040 --> 01:11:03,390 question is, is this the right moment? Is this the time good 1190 01:11:03,780 --> 01:11:04,830 company we 1191 01:11:09,330 --> 01:11:11,610 John C. Dvorak: couldn't happen yesterday didn't so we're still 1192 01:11:11,610 --> 01:11:16,650 holding our breath or not. It seems where we leave the debate. 1193 01:11:16,650 --> 01:11:20,400 So I do want to play the I thought it was just a good 1194 01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:26,730 Bernie. This Bernie's i This is Bernie's whole bit, kind of 1195 01:11:26,730 --> 01:11:31,800 wrapped into one. I believe this is the right one. Bernie, 1196 01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:34,800 Bernie, Bernie, on billionaires I think this is it. Yeah, this 1197 01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:38,460 is actually pretty funny because this is he's goes off on 1198 01:11:38,460 --> 01:11:40,320 everything wrong with the country and everything wrong 1199 01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:42,810 with billionaires, there shouldn't be any. And he gets 1200 01:11:42,810 --> 01:11:49,050 that idiot, Tom Steyer to come up next, I don't have to agree. 1201 01:11:50,010 --> 01:11:50,760 billion I 1202 01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:52,140 Adam Curry: hate myself. 1203 01:11:52,950 --> 01:11:55,740 John C. Dvorak: I hate those billionaires, I don't 1204 01:11:55,740 --> 01:11:58,650 Adam Curry: like being a billionaire. Everybody have a 1205 01:11:58,650 --> 01:11:59,850 grand on me. 1206 01:12:00,300 --> 01:12:03,150 When you introduced your wealth tax, which would tax the assets 1207 01:12:03,150 --> 01:12:06,420 of the wealthiest Americans, you said, quoting you, Senator 1208 01:12:06,540 --> 01:12:10,350 billionaires should not exist is the goal of your plan to tax 1209 01:12:10,350 --> 01:12:12,030 billionaires out of existence. 1210 01:12:13,050 --> 01:12:16,320 Unknown: When you have a half a million Americans sleeping out 1211 01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:22,050 on the street today, when you have 87 people, 87 million 1212 01:12:22,050 --> 01:12:26,670 people uninsured or underinsured when you got hundreds of 1000s 1213 01:12:26,670 --> 01:12:30,870 of kids who cannot afford to go to college, and millions 1214 01:12:31,140 --> 01:12:35,550 struggling with the oppressive burden of student debt. And then 1215 01:12:35,550 --> 01:12:39,990 you also have three people owning more wealth than the 1216 01:12:39,990 --> 01:12:45,930 bottom half of American society. That is a moral and economic 1217 01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:52,110 outrage. And the truth is, we cannot afford to continue this 1218 01:12:52,110 --> 01:12:55,950 level of income and wealth inequality. And we cannot afford 1219 01:12:56,100 --> 01:13:01,050 a billionaire class whose greed and corruption has been at war 1220 01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:05,130 with the working families of this country for 45 years. So if 1221 01:13:05,130 --> 01:13:09,660 you're asking me, do I think we should demand that the wealthy 1222 01:13:09,660 --> 01:13:14,580 stop paying the wealthiest top 1/10 of 1%? Stop paying their 1223 01:13:14,580 --> 01:13:19,080 fair share of taxes? So we can create a nation and a government 1224 01:13:19,230 --> 01:13:23,820 that works for all of us? Yes, that's exactly what I believe. 1225 01:13:25,350 --> 01:13:28,710 Adam Curry: Again, he hits all the right buttons, but then he's 1226 01:13:28,710 --> 01:13:31,440 like, Well, we'll just fix it with taxes on them. And no one 1227 01:13:31,440 --> 01:13:36,000 believes that. No one believes it. Everyone knows that be done. 1228 01:13:36,030 --> 01:13:38,580 No. Yeah. 1229 01:13:38,670 --> 01:13:40,710 John C. Dvorak: Now if you read me, people should read my essay 1230 01:13:40,710 --> 01:13:43,290 on wealth tax and what it's really should be like and how it 1231 01:13:43,290 --> 01:13:46,950 works and why it would work. Well, it doesn't involve soaking 1232 01:13:46,950 --> 01:13:50,790 the top. They get they but they do get deigned a lot more than 1233 01:13:50,790 --> 01:13:51,600 they do today. 1234 01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:55,710 Adam Curry: A new way of taxation. Yeah, fair. Taxation. 1235 01:13:56,700 --> 01:13:59,580 John C. Dvorak: Eliminates, in my opinion, the real problem is 1236 01:13:59,610 --> 01:14:03,180 income to income should not be taxed, because people cannot 1237 01:14:03,180 --> 01:14:06,030 accumulate wealth. If you attack, if you just keep 1238 01:14:06,030 --> 01:14:09,990 attacking their income, you should only attack their wealth 1239 01:14:09,990 --> 01:14:13,290 after they accumulate it. And most people don't have a lot of 1240 01:14:13,290 --> 01:14:16,140 wealth and they'd be paying very little taxes, if any, they'd 1241 01:14:16,140 --> 01:14:18,510 definitely be paying less than they're paying now, except the 1242 01:14:18,510 --> 01:14:21,330 super hyper wealthy that have a pot load of money, they'd be 1243 01:14:21,330 --> 01:14:24,330 paying more and it's but it's not that much. 1.8% I think is 1244 01:14:24,330 --> 01:14:25,380 the number I came up with. 1245 01:14:26,820 --> 01:14:30,600 Adam Curry: Well, while we're dicking around in this morass of 1246 01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:35,520 sludge, there's actual things going on Europe is kind of on 1247 01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:40,530 fire. We've got the yellow vests rioting and to loose we've got 1248 01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:44,820 coverage of that we've got to cut the lawn is exploding 1249 01:14:44,820 --> 01:14:47,700 violence everywhere because they're locking people up for 1250 01:14:47,730 --> 01:14:50,730 for a decade or more the Netherlands. Where's the 1251 01:14:50,730 --> 01:14:54,360 coverage of that the Netherlands The farmer Defence Force went to 1252 01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:58,620 The Hague to protest with their tractors, and the and think 1253 01:14:58,620 --> 01:15:03,030 about it, pitch for works and tractors. The politicians were 1254 01:15:03,030 --> 01:15:07,320 so afraid. They didn't call the police. They didn't call the 1255 01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:12,150 SWAT team. No, they put the military on the streets. The 1256 01:15:12,150 --> 01:15:16,500 government is so afraid of the farmers. They put the military 1257 01:15:16,500 --> 01:15:18,210 there to defend them. 1258 01:15:19,980 --> 01:15:21,330 Where's the coverage? 1259 01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,510 You'd think that would be important because it could 1260 01:15:24,510 --> 01:15:29,250 happen anywhere. And it's in there is this shit going on? Oh, 1261 01:15:29,250 --> 01:15:31,560 yes, the revolution will not be televised, I should have known 1262 01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:31,860 better. 1263 01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:35,400 John C. Dvorak: And with that I don't want to televise it for 1264 01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:38,340 that reason, these large corporations that own the media. 1265 01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:41,730 They This is the they don't want to get this kind of a mess there 1266 01:15:41,730 --> 01:15:43,830 would give anybody any ideas. 1267 01:15:44,670 --> 01:15:47,550 Adam Curry: And those two no agenda douchebag should be quiet 1268 01:15:47,550 --> 01:15:52,680 too. Yeah, well, luckily, and they would have silenced us many 1269 01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:56,730 moons ago. Had we not chosen for a value for value method. And 1270 01:15:56,730 --> 01:15:59,490 with that, I would like to thank you for your courage in this. 1271 01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:03,600 The man who put the sea and coupon clipping in the morning 1272 01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:05,940 to you John C. Dvorak. 1273 01:16:06,660 --> 01:16:08,040 John C. Dvorak: Well, in the morning to you and Mr. Adam 1274 01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:10,950 curry also in the morning and all of what is it feet on the 1275 01:16:10,950 --> 01:16:14,400 ground, foot in the air, feet in the air subs in the water. I'm 1276 01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:17,850 sorry, subs in the water boots on the ground. subs in the 1277 01:16:17,850 --> 01:16:20,730 water, and all the Dames and nighttime, in the morning to 1278 01:16:20,730 --> 01:16:23,370 Adam Curry: our trolls hanging out at no agenda stream.com It 1279 01:16:23,370 --> 01:16:28,050 is where the trolls congregate on Thursdays and Sundays and 1280 01:16:28,050 --> 01:16:30,660 many other days. Throughout the week. We got tonnes of live 1281 01:16:30,660 --> 01:16:33,690 shows there, it's 24/7 operation, you can log into the 1282 01:16:33,690 --> 01:16:37,560 chat room, you can troll along and you can interact with the 1283 01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:41,280 hosts as they talk just like we're doing here. So no agenda 1284 01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:42,450 stream.com 1285 01:16:42,750 --> 01:16:44,970 John C. Dvorak: You get to interact with one host. Yeah, 1286 01:16:45,330 --> 01:16:52,770 yes. True. Although I do give them Crap. Crap. Yeah. 1287 01:16:53,310 --> 01:16:56,190 Adam Curry: And in the morning to John Fletcher. Fletcher 1288 01:16:56,190 --> 01:16:59,340 brought us the artwork for episode 1181. The title of that 1289 01:16:59,340 --> 01:17:03,570 was solutioning. And it was hard to choose art. I don't think 1290 01:17:03,570 --> 01:17:06,270 there was the selection was not 1291 01:17:06,330 --> 01:17:10,440 John C. Dvorak: broad. There was a lot to choose from. But you 1292 01:17:10,440 --> 01:17:12,150 started off as saying there's nothing 1293 01:17:12,780 --> 01:17:15,660 Adam Curry: and you almost nailed my voice. Could you try 1294 01:17:15,660 --> 01:17:16,170 it again? 1295 01:17:16,650 --> 01:17:18,720 John C. Dvorak: There's no I can do it. I can actually do your 1296 01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:21,450 voice. Okay. There's nothing. 1297 01:17:21,570 --> 01:17:24,210 Adam Curry: Exactly. I've that's precisely the way I do it. 1298 01:17:24,810 --> 01:17:25,470 Fletcher, 1299 01:17:25,710 --> 01:17:27,750 John C. Dvorak: my mom's voice and and my wife's voice. 1300 01:17:28,860 --> 01:17:30,870 Adam Curry: It's all it's all the women in your life. 1301 01:17:33,510 --> 01:17:35,730 This was the climate repair shop. 1302 01:17:37,650 --> 01:17:41,850 I don't remember how it was relevancy to the show. But we 1303 01:17:41,850 --> 01:17:43,200 thought it was a fun piece of art. There 1304 01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:44,910 John C. Dvorak: was a moment in the show where somebody 1305 01:17:44,910 --> 01:17:45,690 discussed 1306 01:17:46,830 --> 01:17:49,440 Adam Curry: repairing the climate is 1307 01:17:49,440 --> 01:17:51,540 John C. Dvorak: something Yeah, it was it was really close to 1308 01:17:51,570 --> 01:17:54,600 Yeah, clearly having a climate repair shop was mentioned in 1309 01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:55,470 some odd way. 1310 01:17:56,940 --> 01:18:01,110 Adam Curry: Oh, that's right. Yeah. Well, yeah. It worked for 1311 01:18:01,110 --> 01:18:05,100 us. And we're very appreciative. And also to everybody who who 1312 01:18:05,100 --> 01:18:08,790 gave it a shot for sure. I mean, we're not every piece of art is 1313 01:18:08,790 --> 01:18:12,660 appreciated. Every piece of art has its place. All art is just 1314 01:18:12,660 --> 01:18:15,630 in the eye of the beholder. We happen to be two of them. And 1315 01:18:15,630 --> 01:18:18,870 that's why people can go to the no agenda, art generator.com 1316 01:18:18,990 --> 01:18:22,260 Look at all the pieces of art, remix them do other things with 1317 01:18:22,260 --> 01:18:25,740 them, use them put them on things go to no agenda shop.com 1318 01:18:25,740 --> 01:18:28,140 where the artists get paid for their artwork that's put onto 1319 01:18:28,140 --> 01:18:32,160 mugs, T shirts, hats, you name it. But above all, it is a great 1320 01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:36,780 way to notify as a little nudge to people who are subscribed to 1321 01:18:36,780 --> 01:18:39,720 the show or maybe just cruising around a wait a minute, that 1322 01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,240 looks different. That's a different you know, you get used 1323 01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:45,330 to patterns and if the patterns change slightly people notice 1324 01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:52,560 and apparently, the podcast app in iOS 13 with the latest betta 1325 01:18:52,890 --> 01:18:56,610 is now working and so the album art changes once again. Yes, 1326 01:18:56,610 --> 01:18:59,820 we're very happy about that because we adhere to the spec in 1327 01:18:59,820 --> 01:19:03,990 the standard and we expect the same from our partners. Okay, 1328 01:19:04,410 --> 01:19:06,090 John C. Dvorak: well we do have a few people to thank including 1329 01:19:06,090 --> 01:19:14,670 one Whopper at the top and it is also a moment. Jakob Hopper or 1330 01:19:14,670 --> 01:19:22,170 Jacob Hopper came in with 2003 Dots re three 1331 01:19:22,770 --> 01:19:31,140 oh my goodness, as a double Insta night and Dame this is 1332 01:19:31,260 --> 01:19:36,180 easy bye by his wife. Oh, okay. 1333 01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:41,250 Just checking. And he says good info vond putting our phones 1334 01:19:41,940 --> 01:19:42,720 good novena. 1335 01:19:42,809 --> 01:19:44,069 Adam Curry: We're not Adam, Shawn. 1336 01:19:44,910 --> 01:19:47,460 John C. Dvorak: Adam and John Forgive me pot father for I have 1337 01:19:47,460 --> 01:19:53,190 sinned, and have been a douche bag for two years. So I was hit 1338 01:19:53,190 --> 01:19:57,390 in the mouth by a marine that was stationed near me in 1339 01:19:57,390 --> 01:20:00,270 Havelock North Carolina a while back and I would like to Call 1340 01:20:00,270 --> 01:20:01,800 him out as a douche bag. 1341 01:20:02,130 --> 01:20:05,040 Adam Curry: Oh, here we go. Oh, what happened in my bag? 1342 01:20:05,340 --> 01:20:07,470 John C. Dvorak: Is name's Jonathan by No, 1343 01:20:07,500 --> 01:20:10,290 Adam Curry: no I know but I the douche bag gets on the floor 1344 01:20:10,290 --> 01:20:14,340 here. Oh, okay, I got it. That's better. 1345 01:20:14,549 --> 01:20:17,399 John C. Dvorak: So Jonathan gets that he needs a D douching. For 1346 01:20:17,399 --> 01:20:18,689 him and his keeper. 1347 01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:22,470 Unknown: You've been de deuced 1348 01:20:22,980 --> 01:20:27,540 John C. Dvorak: Korey Stringer. We'd rather we'd like this 1349 01:20:27,540 --> 01:20:30,690 donation to be a double night Dame combo for the two of us. 1350 01:20:30,810 --> 01:20:34,530 Yes, the dame drive guilted me. This is interesting 1351 01:20:34,530 --> 01:20:37,140 Adam Curry: Dame drive. All right, it works a game drive 1352 01:20:37,140 --> 01:20:37,650 worked 1353 01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:43,650 John C. Dvorak: to guilt me into the extra donation I have hit 1354 01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:48,360 what is this I've hit numerous people in the mouth and keep on 1355 01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:51,450 trying to spread the message to shrink as many amygdalas as 1356 01:20:51,450 --> 01:20:57,960 humanity possibly as humanly possible. Dutch pronounciation 1357 01:20:57,960 --> 01:20:58,140 he's 1358 01:20:58,140 --> 01:21:01,890 Adam Curry: saying so he wants to I have hit numerous people in 1359 01:21:01,890 --> 01:21:06,030 the mouse and try to keep spread to spread the message to shrink 1360 01:21:06,030 --> 01:21:09,270 as many make the laws as humanly possible possible. 1361 01:21:10,290 --> 01:21:12,300 John C. Dvorak: Now he I want you to read the rest of this 1362 01:21:12,300 --> 01:21:14,910 kind of with a little bit of that accent even though I be it 1363 01:21:14,940 --> 01:21:16,290 is not Dutch. 1364 01:21:16,530 --> 01:21:18,630 Adam Curry: Why? Why would I insult him? 1365 01:21:20,370 --> 01:21:22,980 John C. Dvorak: Okay, well, the reason is because my this is 1366 01:21:22,980 --> 01:21:24,300 notes. I'm happy. I'm 1367 01:21:24,300 --> 01:21:26,940 Adam Curry: happy to write. I'm happy to tell I'm happy to read 1368 01:21:26,940 --> 01:21:30,210 it. We were happy to see our brothers and one sister at a 1369 01:21:30,210 --> 01:21:32,820 meet up in Utrecht a couple of weeks ago. Shout out to Dame 1370 01:21:32,820 --> 01:21:36,060 Jacobina for her bravery and Sir Hendrik for setting it all up. 1371 01:21:36,450 --> 01:21:39,270 And we thoroughly enjoyed all the conversations with no 1372 01:21:39,270 --> 01:21:42,720 triggering of any sort and you will love this Adam I'm an 1373 01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,570 active duty Coast Guard Lieutenant Commander stationed 1374 01:21:45,570 --> 01:21:49,050 in the landlocked Limburg region of the Netherlands. And that's 1375 01:21:49,050 --> 01:21:52,260 that's an interesting place for for for naval guy. 1376 01:21:52,890 --> 01:21:56,310 John C. Dvorak: Even with Coast Guard Hold on a second. I will 1377 01:21:56,340 --> 01:21:59,640 there's no explanation for this. But why is it East US Coast US 1378 01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:02,310 Coast Guard? Yes. What is he doing there? 1379 01:22:02,340 --> 01:22:05,010 Adam Curry: He's on reserve for for the Georgia. Don't you 1380 01:22:05,010 --> 01:22:07,830 remember that? We sent the Coast Guard to the Coast Guard to 1381 01:22:07,830 --> 01:22:12,360 Georgia when Russia was where they were fighting the coast 1382 01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:16,320 guards everywhere. That's a good question though. Even though 1383 01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:19,110 being landlocked for just over three years, I managed to fulfil 1384 01:22:19,110 --> 01:22:22,500 my traditional life saving service duties and rescue three 1385 01:22:22,500 --> 01:22:26,430 severely drunk Belgians who had sunk their rented canoe in the 1386 01:22:26,430 --> 01:22:30,900 middle of a lake near post Meyer lohnt. My normal job is a port 1387 01:22:30,900 --> 01:22:33,480 security liaison where I travel frequently to the Middle East 1388 01:22:33,480 --> 01:22:35,880 Africa, even some non EU countries way up north and 1389 01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:38,730 scattered about hopefully I can catch up with you next time 1390 01:22:38,730 --> 01:22:41,790 you're in the Netherlands for sharing some good stories but 1391 01:22:41,790 --> 01:22:47,370 they may not be Captain magenic quality quarter you and I love 1392 01:22:47,370 --> 01:22:50,880 you and John C and always look forward to listening especially 1393 01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:53,580 John's pronunciation of anything Dutch along with your 1394 01:22:53,580 --> 01:22:57,540 spectacular Dutch accent. I would like to be named Sir Jacob 1395 01:22:57,540 --> 01:23:00,540 guardian of the Lindbergh coast, and Korea would like to be named 1396 01:23:00,540 --> 01:23:05,730 Dane quarry Lady of 10 Boom. I would like bloat abilities in 1397 01:23:05,730 --> 01:23:11,520 its crust stone port and flaming buttholes at the roundtable, 1398 01:23:12,030 --> 01:23:16,560 Cody would like Vitamin E vapes and vodka at the roundtable. We 1399 01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:18,630 love you guys very much. Thank you from the bottom of our 1400 01:23:18,630 --> 01:23:22,380 hearts for giving us some sanity while in the EU. Couples that no 1401 01:23:22,380 --> 01:23:28,650 agenda together stay together. You've got karma 1402 01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,050 John C. Dvorak: and that's the end of our executive producer 1403 01:23:34,050 --> 01:23:34,620 list. I 1404 01:23:34,620 --> 01:23:37,080 Adam Curry: was it was short, but it was a good one. 1405 01:23:37,650 --> 01:23:39,780 John C. Dvorak: And our Associate Executive Producer 1406 01:23:39,780 --> 01:23:45,810 list isn't too long either. We only have two. One is Dylan Tice 1407 01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:52,650 and valley Nebraska. $201. He says my older brother Troy hit 1408 01:23:52,650 --> 01:23:55,260 me in the mouth about a year ago I've been freeloading off your 1409 01:23:55,260 --> 01:23:59,070 show ever since. So I feel a deep douching is in order. 1410 01:24:00,750 --> 01:24:02,580 Unknown: You've been de deuced 1411 01:24:04,290 --> 01:24:06,900 John C. Dvorak: and this is the second time Troy Tice has been 1412 01:24:06,900 --> 01:24:14,340 called out as a douchebag sir oz of the windy plains. This is my 1413 01:24:14,340 --> 01:24:23,880 first donation and I'd like a D douching. rally with these reds 1414 01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:24,270 together 1415 01:24:24,390 --> 01:24:26,430 Adam Curry: are you talking through the D douching? 1416 01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:28,290 John C. Dvorak: I'm talking through the D douching. I'm 1417 01:24:28,650 --> 01:24:30,090 doing this because 1418 01:24:31,290 --> 01:24:33,870 Adam Curry: again be quiet isn't a deducing or not he 1419 01:24:33,870 --> 01:24:36,240 John C. Dvorak: says I'd like it but it's for the next guy. 1420 01:24:36,930 --> 01:24:39,450 Adam Curry: Well that's what we just did this. We just did Dylan 1421 01:24:39,450 --> 01:24:42,600 Teece Yeah, you're not at all when 1422 01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:44,010 John C. Dvorak: I haven't mentioned 1423 01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:47,580 Adam Curry: Oh okay. Why I have no problem with the spreadsheet. 1424 01:24:47,580 --> 01:24:48,570 I can see it. 1425 01:24:49,110 --> 01:24:51,570 John C. Dvorak: I can't but when I'm overseas that move it over 1426 01:24:51,570 --> 01:24:56,280 sell to sell so I have this huge red areas all looks like one. 1427 01:24:56,970 --> 01:24:58,740 Adam Curry: Well, why don't you have the whole spreadsheet I 1428 01:24:58,740 --> 01:25:01,110 mean you you're just Rolling in this thing 1429 01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:03,360 John C. Dvorak: I scraped scrolls and horizontally 1430 01:25:03,420 --> 01:25:05,760 Adam Curry: yeah that's not that's not a good way to do it 1431 01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:08,100 just zoom out I'm at 80% 1432 01:25:09,900 --> 01:25:12,360 John C. Dvorak: Yeah Okay my way you do it your ways 1433 01:25:12,389 --> 01:25:14,939 Adam Curry: well okay G working great. 1434 01:25:15,269 --> 01:25:17,189 John C. Dvorak: Well once in a while when you have the 1435 01:25:17,189 --> 01:25:20,489 situation you can understand it yours is just a giant block of 1436 01:25:20,489 --> 01:25:25,829 text. It looks like the same text. Anyway, next on the list 1437 01:25:25,829 --> 01:25:30,299 it didn't get anything like a maybe karma. 1438 01:25:30,570 --> 01:25:35,640 Adam Curry: Well, I can give him a Karma show. You've got karma 1439 01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:39,780 John C. Dvorak: or last in our last and second Associate 1440 01:25:39,780 --> 01:25:43,380 Executive Producers oz of the windy plains in Clovis in the 1441 01:25:43,380 --> 01:25:48,060 middle of nowhere New Mexico. And he is get the same thing he 1442 01:25:48,060 --> 01:25:51,150 says he's this his first donation he needs to do tuition 1443 01:25:51,150 --> 01:25:52,740 which we've given him already. Oh, no, 1444 01:25:52,740 --> 01:25:55,890 Adam Curry: he has not gotten it because both times I interrupt 1445 01:25:55,890 --> 01:25:59,370 over you just completely obliterated the deal. whooshing 1446 01:25:59,370 --> 01:26:00,840 John C. Dvorak: interrupt us. Okay, 1447 01:26:01,139 --> 01:26:02,549 Adam Curry: here we go. Well, 1448 01:26:05,220 --> 01:26:07,080 Unknown: you've been deemed deuced 1449 01:26:08,580 --> 01:26:11,790 John C. Dvorak: to math by Timothy n. But he needs to be 1450 01:26:11,790 --> 01:26:19,350 called out is a douchebag. So now he needs a request of the 1451 01:26:19,350 --> 01:26:23,040 whole load which I don't know what that is. I do and China 1452 01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:24,060 asshole. 1453 01:26:27,270 --> 01:26:29,880 Adam Curry: That is you know, we're gonna die in this clip is 1454 01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:33,630 going to be played at our funerals. This is like the 1455 01:26:33,630 --> 01:26:37,920 enemy. That's true. And China is so and he's the one to some 1456 01:26:37,950 --> 01:26:39,300 karma with that. 1457 01:26:39,810 --> 01:26:42,270 John C. Dvorak: No, not that's true. The whole line? I 1458 01:26:42,270 --> 01:26:44,070 Adam Curry: got it. I got I'm just saying these are these. 1459 01:26:45,150 --> 01:26:46,650 John C. Dvorak: You said nothing about Chrome. But I would I 1460 01:26:46,650 --> 01:26:47,160 would give him 1461 01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:53,400 Unknown: some I'm gonna give you the whole load disk. You've got 1462 01:26:58,380 --> 01:27:04,500 John C. Dvorak: so while on so while on the topic of that Biden 1463 01:27:04,500 --> 01:27:10,620 club, I do have an ISO an ISO from the database. This is a 1464 01:27:10,620 --> 01:27:11,220 Biden. 1465 01:27:12,090 --> 01:27:13,950 Adam Curry: Yeah, I'm just looking forward here for a 1466 01:27:13,950 --> 01:27:14,280 second 1467 01:27:14,610 --> 01:27:16,110 John C. Dvorak: bite Biden ISO. 1468 01:27:17,220 --> 01:27:21,810 Adam Curry: I could be funny. No, it's Oh, it's at the top of 1469 01:27:21,810 --> 01:27:25,500 the list. Of course. Here we go. This is Shang Han back, back 1470 01:27:25,500 --> 01:27:30,690 back back. This is shameful. This is shameful. 1471 01:27:31,020 --> 01:27:35,850 I mean, I I would have wanted to do my ISO for the entire show, 1472 01:27:35,850 --> 01:27:38,130 which is we have a deal. 1473 01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:42,030 John C. Dvorak: I get did very hard to understand that one was 1474 01:27:42,030 --> 01:27:42,750 the overdue 1475 01:27:45,450 --> 01:27:47,820 Adam Curry: Zoo. Shameful. I think we'll use that that's a 1476 01:27:47,820 --> 01:27:50,280 good one. But unless something else pops up during the show. 1477 01:27:51,930 --> 01:27:55,500 All right. Well, that was a very short list. But why are a short 1478 01:27:55,500 --> 01:28:00,600 list so nice that we have our Dame Dr. has, has started to 1479 01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:03,660 work and there's a tension being I mean, we're not just a bunch 1480 01:28:03,660 --> 01:28:08,220 of douchebags. We want the women on the show. And the dame drive 1481 01:28:08,220 --> 01:28:11,070 is finally catching on. And we need more dame's at the 1482 01:28:11,070 --> 01:28:15,630 roundtable and we'll be bringing two of them on. Actually three 1483 01:28:15,630 --> 01:28:18,750 people I think are coming on to the list for the roundtable 1484 01:28:18,750 --> 01:28:21,750 today. That will be coming up in our second segment for now 1485 01:28:21,750 --> 01:28:24,720 though, really like to thank our it is in fact to executive 1486 01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:27,180 producers in one donation and two Associate Executive 1487 01:28:27,180 --> 01:28:31,380 producers for their courage and supporting episode 1182 of the 1488 01:28:31,380 --> 01:28:34,500 no agenda show you can do that as well. It's simple all you 1489 01:28:34,500 --> 01:28:35,430 have to do is go to 1490 01:28:35,460 --> 01:28:38,940 wcco.org/n A 1491 01:28:38,970 --> 01:28:42,030 and those credits are Real you should go out let everybody know 1492 01:28:42,030 --> 01:28:44,190 about it propagated our formula 1493 01:28:44,190 --> 01:28:48,150 John C. Dvorak: is this we go out we hit people in the mouth 1494 01:29:02,430 --> 01:29:05,400 Adam Curry: you know all of this, all of this and you really 1495 01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:10,350 can't call it anything else with propaganda surrounding the 1496 01:29:10,380 --> 01:29:19,080 Ukraine impeachment push the UIP Ukraine impeachment push. It 1497 01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:27,180 does eventually seep in and in a world where in a world where we 1498 01:29:27,780 --> 01:29:34,740 only read headlines, I mean truly only read headlines and 1499 01:29:34,770 --> 01:29:38,520 and actually would just love retweeting headlines based upon 1500 01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:44,580 the headline we really don't read. I'm thankful that we 1501 01:29:44,610 --> 01:29:47,880 looked at the Ukraine transcript the minute it was released, and 1502 01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:52,110 we could see that the truth of what at least the only evidence 1503 01:29:52,110 --> 01:29:57,420 we have now it's a transcript. So who knows but it's it's 1504 01:29:57,420 --> 01:30:00,930 supposed to be correct. So we know exactly Leave what did or 1505 01:30:00,930 --> 01:30:04,710 did not go on and all you hear about and all that is being 1506 01:30:04,710 --> 01:30:08,940 parroted across the spectrum into the you know, through the 1507 01:30:08,940 --> 01:30:12,540 whole machine, not just the cable news and the M five M but 1508 01:30:12,540 --> 01:30:16,530 the social the social and social nets. It's everywhere is you 1509 01:30:16,530 --> 01:30:21,000 know, he's traders given up our national security and he's not 1510 01:30:21,060 --> 01:30:23,790 he's above he doesn't he thinks he's above the law. He can't be 1511 01:30:23,790 --> 01:30:26,400 we've got to get rid of him. He's the worst president ever. 1512 01:30:26,550 --> 01:30:29,400 Never seen a president so corrupt? This is a new one the 1513 01:30:29,430 --> 01:30:32,760 most corrupt president in history. I think Biden even said 1514 01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:35,160 that during the debate. It does 1515 01:30:35,190 --> 01:30:37,680 John C. Dvorak: get that's a Bernie originally has been 1516 01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:39,600 passed around. It does 1517 01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:42,360 Adam Curry: seep into the psyche. And and that's what I'm 1518 01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:48,660 worried about. I'd like to play a clip from a podcast, and it's 1519 01:30:48,660 --> 01:30:55,260 to cultural icons of the moment. Tip ti Harris, who you probably 1520 01:30:55,260 --> 01:30:57,480 don't know you, have you heard of Chance the Rapper. Do you 1521 01:30:57,480 --> 01:30:58,590 know Chance the Rapper stuff 1522 01:30:58,620 --> 01:31:01,290 John C. Dvorak: I know chance to read I don't know, chance. No 1523 01:31:01,530 --> 01:31:06,390 Adam Curry: Chance the Rapper. And Cardi B, Cardi B you know 1524 01:31:06,390 --> 01:31:07,050 Cardi B Do 1525 01:31:07,050 --> 01:31:08,460 John C. Dvorak: you've seen her. Everybody knows crazy. 1526 01:31:08,490 --> 01:31:11,400 Adam Curry: Everybody knows Cardi B. Now, their audience 1527 01:31:11,430 --> 01:31:18,150 their prime audience is young white girls, that is who buys 1528 01:31:18,150 --> 01:31:23,400 Hip Hop records. That is who loves these cultural icons. They 1529 01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:30,780 are not on par with a Beyonce or an Oprah. But they're definitely 1530 01:31:30,780 --> 01:31:35,130 people who are listened to. And this was a podcast on podcast 1531 01:31:35,130 --> 01:31:39,810 one, which is part of the Westwood one radio networks. And 1532 01:31:39,810 --> 01:31:44,490 they were sitting together talking about the election and 1533 01:31:44,490 --> 01:31:50,100 the president and and how elections work. Now, it'll be 1534 01:31:50,100 --> 01:31:54,270 hard for me not to laugh at some of the obvious vocab vocabulary 1535 01:31:54,270 --> 01:31:59,610 gaffes. And I make tonne of them myself. But it kind of shows you 1536 01:31:59,610 --> 01:32:00,360 as we listen 1537 01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:05,850 John C. Dvorak: of them, I'm sorry, a tonne of what it is. I 1538 01:32:05,850 --> 01:32:06,990 make tonne of them. 1539 01:32:07,410 --> 01:32:10,290 Adam Curry: I make tonne good good gifts, I make a tonne of 1540 01:32:10,290 --> 01:32:12,450 them. I think you just didn't hear it to the Skype connects 1541 01:32:12,450 --> 01:32:15,060 John C. Dvorak: possible. But it's still fun. But it also 1542 01:32:15,060 --> 01:32:15,360 shows 1543 01:32:15,389 --> 01:32:17,489 Adam Curry: you you will immediately recognise these 1544 01:32:17,489 --> 01:32:21,509 vocabulary gaffes as just someone who's heard something 1545 01:32:21,509 --> 01:32:24,479 and is just parroting what they've heard on the mainstream 1546 01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:29,549 media. But I'm concerned about the influence they have on our 1547 01:32:29,549 --> 01:32:33,059 young people. Of course, it's not only white, but man that is 1548 01:32:33,059 --> 01:32:38,279 their big audience. And this I feel is to a degree harmful. And 1549 01:32:38,279 --> 01:32:40,619 I just want to bring it to everyone's attention that this 1550 01:32:40,619 --> 01:32:43,409 is what your children are probably listening to. 1551 01:32:43,469 --> 01:32:45,509 Unknown: I feel like Oprah could be president, but it's just 1552 01:32:45,509 --> 01:32:50,759 like, it's like if it was so. It was so hard for Hillary to 1553 01:32:50,759 --> 01:32:52,349 become a president. 1554 01:32:53,190 --> 01:32:56,580 John C. Dvorak: Do you know why? I was already good. Do you know 1555 01:32:56,580 --> 01:33:01,050 why I feel like a presidential you already have the boat. She 1556 01:33:01,050 --> 01:33:03,810 did, but she didn't go with the Electoral College. 1557 01:33:04,860 --> 01:33:07,320 Unknown: The Electoral College are gonna go with. 1558 01:33:08,670 --> 01:33:12,540 Adam Curry: I mean, I'm sorry, I don't usually correct things 1559 01:33:12,540 --> 01:33:15,570 like this, but it's the electoral college. It's not the 1560 01:33:15,570 --> 01:33:21,120 electorial college. And now I'm playing it's not even funny 1561 01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:23,550 anymore. I've been so sad about this podcast. 1562 01:33:23,580 --> 01:33:25,530 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, but she didn't go with the Electoral 1563 01:33:25,530 --> 01:33:26,250 College. 1564 01:33:27,270 --> 01:33:31,740 Unknown: The Electoral College are gonna go with what with 1565 01:33:35,790 --> 01:33:37,710 John C. Dvorak: this is the thing about presidential 1566 01:33:37,710 --> 01:33:43,530 candidates over the course of our lifetime. When we hear about 1567 01:33:43,530 --> 01:33:46,890 a presidential candidate, we have very little to no 1568 01:33:46,890 --> 01:33:52,620 experience or no knowledge of them or their platform until 1569 01:33:52,740 --> 01:33:56,010 somebody said, Hey, this person ran for president. Right? The 1570 01:33:56,010 --> 01:34:00,060 first time we hit a name is this person in some ways running for 1571 01:34:00,060 --> 01:34:03,060 president? You know what I'm saying? Right? If you have an 1572 01:34:03,090 --> 01:34:07,260 Oprah, if you have a Beyonce if you have, even with Trump, 1573 01:34:07,620 --> 01:34:12,060 Donald Trump, we knew these people before we knew them. We 1574 01:34:12,060 --> 01:34:15,720 have more knowledge of them than we did, let's just say of 1575 01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:18,960 Hillary, but a lot of the thing we knew about Hillary is well, 1576 01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:21,150 you know, she stayed with a lot 1577 01:34:21,150 --> 01:34:24,300 Unknown: of a lot of people, a lot of Americans, they vote with 1578 01:34:24,300 --> 01:34:30,030 feelings, and a lot of these people feel religion. They vote 1579 01:34:30,060 --> 01:34:36,720 due to religion, and they vote to race and, and fear and fear 1580 01:34:36,750 --> 01:34:41,730 they are there. They fear that a black man or black woman will 1581 01:34:41,730 --> 01:34:43,230 take over this country. 1582 01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:47,010 Adam Curry: Wait a minute, didn't we all vote a black man 1583 01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:49,050 into the presidency, but 1584 01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:52,290 John C. Dvorak: clearly they didn't know that they may not? 1585 01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:52,980 Well, it 1586 01:34:53,610 --> 01:34:55,800 Adam Curry: gets worse. It gets worse. And this is why I'm 1587 01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:59,280 playing this. This is one of the most racist discussions I've 1588 01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:02,400 heard in a while. Uh, of course black people can't be racist but 1589 01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:03,210 it's racist to 1590 01:35:03,210 --> 01:35:09,450 Unknown: race and and fear and fear they are there they fear 1591 01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:13,830 that a black man or black woman will take over this country. 1592 01:35:14,010 --> 01:35:16,980 John C. Dvorak: But what is that to be honest with you? Hip hop 1593 01:35:16,980 --> 01:35:19,200 has already taken over the country. How's it 1594 01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:21,360 Adam Curry: working out so far then and the world 1595 01:35:24,480 --> 01:35:28,320 Unknown: there's a lot of country bumpkin, as men do. 1596 01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:29,160 We'll be voting 1597 01:35:29,190 --> 01:35:33,000 Adam Curry: there we go a lot of country as bumpkin men, which is 1598 01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:36,930 code for White, who will be voting and we only voted the 1599 01:35:36,930 --> 01:35:40,710 bumper bumpkins in Texas and stuff. We only vote on feelings 1600 01:35:40,710 --> 01:35:41,640 and race. 1601 01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:45,090 Unknown: They don't listen to hip hop. Like for example, 1602 01:35:45,090 --> 01:35:50,850 listen to hip hop. Now let me let me tell you something. looks 1603 01:35:50,850 --> 01:35:51,930 away I was looking at 1604 01:35:52,440 --> 01:35:56,160 what about following the people with the best ideas? 1605 01:35:56,460 --> 01:35:59,520 Some people don't give a fuck about the best ideas they really 1606 01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:04,230 vote with feelings. Come on now. Look, look at Donald Trump right 1607 01:36:04,410 --> 01:36:07,800 every single time he always talk about how you want to take away 1608 01:36:07,890 --> 01:36:11,220 Medicare's and she like that. Just 1609 01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:14,940 Adam Curry: that damn Trump talking about taking away the 1610 01:36:14,940 --> 01:36:19,890 Medicare's he's never said that. But to everyone else has said 1611 01:36:19,890 --> 01:36:22,140 that he's wants to take away the Medicare's spoke 1612 01:36:22,140 --> 01:36:25,200 Unknown: about the best ideas they rarely vote with feelings. 1613 01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:29,160 Come on now. Look, look at Donald Trump right? Every single 1614 01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:33,120 time he always talk about how you want to take away Medicare's 1615 01:36:33,270 --> 01:36:37,350 and she like a poor white man. Don't give a fuck a poor white 1616 01:36:37,350 --> 01:36:41,820 man that's getting Medicare is not me caring that he's saying 1617 01:36:41,820 --> 01:36:45,030 that he just cares that he hates Mexicans, and he wants to get 1618 01:36:45,030 --> 01:36:45,450 rid of them. 1619 01:36:45,510 --> 01:36:48,210 Adam Curry: That's it. That's right. Yes. No one cares about 1620 01:36:48,210 --> 01:36:50,940 the Medicare's. We just want to make sure that the President 1621 01:36:50,940 --> 01:36:53,610 hates Mexicans and gets rid of them. That's what country 1622 01:36:53,610 --> 01:36:54,300 bumpkins do. 1623 01:36:54,330 --> 01:36:57,150 Unknown: Nobody cared. Nobody cares. He's saying that He just 1624 01:36:57,150 --> 01:37:00,150 cares that he hates Mexicans, and he wants to get rid of them. 1625 01:37:00,300 --> 01:37:02,700 I don't care if Donald Trump take away the things that I 1626 01:37:02,700 --> 01:37:06,240 need. I just hate Mexicans, and I want them gone. I'm going to 1627 01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:09,750 keep on going for them. A lot of people vulva filling in America, 1628 01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:13,380 and a lot of they fill in is racism as a religion. 1629 01:37:13,410 --> 01:37:15,720 John C. Dvorak: Yeah. Well, you know, the pride comes before the 1630 01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:21,510 fall, if you can, if you can feed into a person's fears and 1631 01:37:21,510 --> 01:37:26,730 insecurities. You could joystick them in direct their paragraph 1632 01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:30,840 to do and go wherever the fuck you want them to. And that's 1633 01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:34,530 exactly what's being done with the Republican Party. 1634 01:37:34,650 --> 01:37:37,590 Adam Curry: And I would say that's exactly what's happened 1635 01:37:37,590 --> 01:37:41,670 to the three of you. You have been sticked and moved and 1636 01:37:41,670 --> 01:37:45,390 manipulated by the Democrat Party, and by the mainstream 1637 01:37:45,390 --> 01:37:49,980 media and the general political discourse of the M five M across 1638 01:37:50,010 --> 01:37:55,650 all boundaries into being bigoted, racist dicks. And they 1639 01:37:55,650 --> 01:37:58,890 have influence. This is not unimportant that this is 1640 01:37:58,890 --> 01:37:59,490 happening. 1641 01:38:02,910 --> 01:38:04,920 John C. Dvorak: Well, that was the most depressing clip that 1642 01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:06,210 you've played ever. 1643 01:38:06,570 --> 01:38:10,020 Adam Curry: I don't know. I think I had a dog dying clip 1644 01:38:10,020 --> 01:38:11,010 that was more depressing. 1645 01:38:11,460 --> 01:38:14,580 John C. Dvorak: I don't think so. But holy mackerel, yeah, 1646 01:38:14,580 --> 01:38:15,630 that's an eye opener. 1647 01:38:15,660 --> 01:38:19,920 Adam Curry: And that and this is Cardi B is you know, she's top 1648 01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:22,470 of her game right now in the entertainment world Chance the 1649 01:38:22,470 --> 01:38:26,970 Rapper is established. I mean, these are big names. And that's 1650 01:38:26,970 --> 01:38:28,200 what they're feeding us. 1651 01:38:30,480 --> 01:38:32,250 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, it's in their music too. You can count 1652 01:38:32,250 --> 01:38:36,930 on that. Yeah. That's what they claim where they said, If you 1653 01:38:36,930 --> 01:38:38,730 don't listen to hip hop, you won't 1654 01:38:39,300 --> 01:38:41,940 Adam Curry: have a clue. If you listen to hip hop then even 1655 01:38:41,940 --> 01:38:42,540 worse, 1656 01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:45,510 John C. Dvorak: must be with a lot of their writing it 1657 01:38:47,670 --> 01:38:51,960 Adam Curry: so sorry to bum you out, but I just I was my mouth 1658 01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:53,460 was a gassed. 1659 01:38:55,710 --> 01:38:57,150 John C. Dvorak: up pretty bad. Well, it's 1660 01:38:57,150 --> 01:38:59,760 talking about stuff that is again, not being reported, which 1661 01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:02,970 is one of the things we were discussing. Here's a couple of 1662 01:39:02,970 --> 01:39:09,180 items I have that again, this because of the Giuliani thing 1663 01:39:09,210 --> 01:39:13,770 and Trump, we don't hear about this. I can't find any anything 1664 01:39:13,770 --> 01:39:16,770 about this in a mainstream. I got it on Democracy Now had it 1665 01:39:16,770 --> 01:39:19,590 of course, Mexican news. 1666 01:39:22,380 --> 01:39:25,650 Unknown: In Mexico, the Senate is slated to vote on legislation 1667 01:39:25,650 --> 01:39:29,490 to legalise marijuana in the coming days. The bill's passage 1668 01:39:29,490 --> 01:39:32,790 would mark a major shift away from the US back drug war in 1669 01:39:32,790 --> 01:39:36,900 Mexico, which has killed 10s of 1000s of people since it began 1670 01:39:36,900 --> 01:39:41,790 in 2006. This is Mexican Senator Ricardo mon Prowl, a member of 1671 01:39:41,790 --> 01:39:45,390 the Mexican president Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador is Murena 1672 01:39:45,390 --> 01:39:50,280 party. Elimination produce your knees in places when 1673 01:39:50,490 --> 01:39:54,030 eliminating prohibition in the country is good. I think the 1674 01:39:54,030 --> 01:39:57,840 possibility of regulating consumption, the cultivation 1675 01:39:57,870 --> 01:40:01,710 commercialization is a good thing. as well, also heading 1676 01:40:01,710 --> 01:40:05,610 towards industrial use is also good. I think that Mexico is 1677 01:40:05,610 --> 01:40:09,480 prepared to take on such a position on such trajectory. But 1678 01:40:09,750 --> 01:40:12,810 there are voices like that of the president who has said there 1679 01:40:12,810 --> 01:40:15,780 should be a national consultation, which is under 1680 01:40:15,780 --> 01:40:19,590 consideration, which is pending and which is under discussion. 1681 01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:23,190 Adam Curry: Okay. So it's not legal yet, or is it legal? I'm a 1682 01:40:23,190 --> 01:40:23,880 little confused. 1683 01:40:24,030 --> 01:40:26,190 John C. Dvorak: It's going to be though it's pretty apparent that 1684 01:40:26,190 --> 01:40:29,100 they're pushing for this and maybe they're doing it to get 1685 01:40:29,100 --> 01:40:31,590 more money out of us to stop them. But I'm not sure I 1686 01:40:31,590 --> 01:40:35,040 Adam Curry: can't wait for Fox News and Tucker Carlson to belly 1687 01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:35,430 at Tucker, 1688 01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:37,440 John C. Dvorak: about your bitching about this about it. 1689 01:40:37,440 --> 01:40:41,250 Yes. It was funny to see their protests showed a movie of a 1690 01:40:41,250 --> 01:40:44,910 protest everybody's smoking. It was pretty amusing. Here's 1691 01:40:44,910 --> 01:40:47,250 another story that no one's talking about. And this one's 1692 01:40:47,250 --> 01:40:51,660 about in entails Canada, and another one of these Indian 1693 01:40:51,660 --> 01:40:54,450 uprisings. This is Canada Mohawk issues 1694 01:40:54,480 --> 01:40:58,350 Unknown: in Canada, a member of the Mohawk community, and Ganesa 1695 01:40:58,350 --> 01:41:03,030 Dagi in southwestern Quebec has gone on a hunger strike amidst 1696 01:41:03,030 --> 01:41:06,600 an escalating land struggle between the First Nations tribe 1697 01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:10,350 and real estate developers. The residents are asking Canadian 1698 01:41:10,350 --> 01:41:13,530 Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to implement a short term or 1699 01:41:13,530 --> 01:41:17,430 moratorium on old development in their territory. Trudeau has 1700 01:41:17,430 --> 01:41:20,940 promised reconciliation with Canada's first nations. He's 1701 01:41:20,940 --> 01:41:24,660 facing the possibility of being unseeded and Canada's federal 1702 01:41:24,660 --> 01:41:27,600 elections next week. This is Ellen Gabriel, 1703 01:41:28,230 --> 01:41:32,490 because the government has been ignoring us for many 1704 01:41:32,490 --> 01:41:35,430 generations, but in particular with this government that 1705 01:41:35,430 --> 01:41:39,450 promised that we would be the most important relationship in 1706 01:41:39,450 --> 01:41:45,810 Canada. And it wasn't so a hunger strike to provide some 1707 01:41:45,810 --> 01:41:50,970 light to this complex issue that that you know that people I'm 1708 01:41:50,970 --> 01:41:53,760 gonna sit down get a Kanye Gaga Mohawk people have been fighting 1709 01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:57,570 for for many, many generations. Oh, yeah. 1710 01:41:59,070 --> 01:42:01,830 John C. Dvorak: Well, Judo is supposed to be the big champion 1711 01:42:01,830 --> 01:42:05,130 of this and he just bailed on it. You know, this guy's done. 1712 01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:05,790 President 1713 01:42:05,820 --> 01:42:09,960 Adam Curry: Obama on Twitter. Quote, 1714 01:42:10,620 --> 01:42:14,220 I was proud to work with Justin Trudeau as president. He's a 1715 01:42:14,220 --> 01:42:18,030 hardworking effective leader who takes on big issues like climate 1716 01:42:18,030 --> 01:42:21,630 change. The world needs his progressive leadership now and I 1717 01:42:21,630 --> 01:42:26,190 hope our neighbours to the north support him. He just came out 1718 01:42:26,220 --> 01:42:32,550 and endorsed blackface wearing Justin Trudeau Wow. And still 1719 01:42:32,550 --> 01:42:34,800 has said zero about Joe Biden. 1720 01:42:35,250 --> 01:42:37,950 John C. Dvorak: Now he hates Biden, apparently. No kidding. 1721 01:42:39,630 --> 01:42:42,360 Adam Curry: You know, that's to Democracy Now clips in a row and 1722 01:42:42,360 --> 01:42:46,440 I'm kicking myself because neither of us caught the obvious 1723 01:42:46,440 --> 01:42:50,640 gaff on the previous episode. 1181. I did catch it. Well, we 1724 01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:53,010 didn't mention it. We didn't talk about it. I have 1725 01:42:54,300 --> 01:42:56,580 John C. Dvorak: steamrolled me. Well, here's the clip. This is 1726 01:42:56,580 --> 01:42:59,640 the black trans woman. This is from Democracy Now. 1727 01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:03,660 Unknown: Democratic presidential candidates attended a CNN hosted 1728 01:43:03,660 --> 01:43:10,380 Town Hall Thursday night. South Bend Indiana Mayor Pete 1729 01:43:10,380 --> 01:43:13,980 Buttigieg was interrupted by activists holding a banner and 1730 01:43:13,980 --> 01:43:16,170 chanting trans lives matter. 1731 01:43:17,100 --> 01:43:19,470 John C. Dvorak: Yep. Poon. Buttigieg. 1732 01:43:19,740 --> 01:43:22,020 Adam Curry: I thought it was more poop. You want to call it? 1733 01:43:23,790 --> 01:43:26,160 I think I think I have the 1734 01:43:26,430 --> 01:43:30,600 ice. I have an ice. Oh, here we go. Really did judge I think 1735 01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:33,870 it's poop. Listen again. I really did judge one more time. 1736 01:43:33,900 --> 01:43:38,070 Oop. Trying to get Be quiet. Really did judge sounds like 1737 01:43:38,070 --> 01:43:39,600 poop poop really did change. 1738 01:43:39,930 --> 01:43:43,590 John C. Dvorak: It does sound like poop poop. Buttigieg tastes 1739 01:43:43,590 --> 01:43:45,480 like oh, it's poop. You're right. 1740 01:43:46,920 --> 01:43:48,660 Unknown: It's really to change. 1741 01:43:48,930 --> 01:43:53,250 Adam Curry: Now that's not our end of show ISO really did 1742 01:43:53,250 --> 01:43:55,650 change? No, I guess not. 1743 01:43:55,980 --> 01:44:02,040 John C. Dvorak: It's okay. It's a good show title. Judges a 1744 01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:03,150 great show title. 1745 01:44:03,389 --> 01:44:07,589 Adam Curry: What happened? We did talk about about this and I 1746 01:44:07,859 --> 01:44:11,729 specifically said one of our transgender listeners would 1747 01:44:12,359 --> 01:44:15,449 would weigh in and of course, Allie Jade the official training 1748 01:44:15,449 --> 01:44:19,199 of the no agenda show. That's how she calls herself. She 1749 01:44:19,199 --> 01:44:24,029 responded about transgender women of colour being murdered 1750 01:44:24,059 --> 01:44:26,429 because you know, there's really no reporting on what's 1751 01:44:26,429 --> 01:44:30,059 happening. And and I think we asked a very simple question 1752 01:44:30,089 --> 01:44:34,049 what's happening? All we hear is reporting that it's happening 1753 01:44:34,049 --> 01:44:35,819 but what why what is going on? 1754 01:44:35,850 --> 01:44:37,470 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, what you do the reporting supposed to be 1755 01:44:37,470 --> 01:44:42,450 what why, when? Who? Then? Who? Who, What, Why, yes. When, where 1756 01:44:42,450 --> 01:44:45,600 and where is any of this? We don't get anything. Well, 1757 01:44:45,630 --> 01:44:49,290 Adam Curry: this is coming from a trans woman. And she would 1758 01:44:49,290 --> 01:44:49,950 know that 1759 01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:55,410 transgender people tend to get pulled towards prostitution and 1760 01:44:55,410 --> 01:44:59,430 other sex work. And black trans people tend to go more in that 1761 01:44:59,430 --> 01:45:03,240 direction. and tend to be in rougher areas. Then on top of 1762 01:45:03,240 --> 01:45:06,840 that, when in relationships that people that trans people end up 1763 01:45:06,840 --> 01:45:12,390 with or around can be bad news sometimes making a lot of deaths 1764 01:45:12,390 --> 01:45:16,770 and danger being domestic gone bad, or community violence, ie 1765 01:45:16,770 --> 01:45:20,340 someone regretting sex with a trans person, or some other form 1766 01:45:20,340 --> 01:45:24,150 of regret or anger. The cherry on the cake is the black 1767 01:45:24,150 --> 01:45:30,150 community itself. The DL, understand the DL blacks 1768 01:45:30,810 --> 01:45:36,720 downloaddownload I guess Yeah, the DL blacks don't care for gay 1769 01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:40,410 people, and don't like trans either, but kind of a joke is a 1770 01:45:40,410 --> 01:45:46,320 large percentage of black guys love to exploitive trans chicks. 1771 01:45:46,830 --> 01:45:50,940 I run in the online and used to in person circles where there's 1772 01:45:50,970 --> 01:45:54,570 always a large amount of black guys chasing trans girls but 1773 01:45:54,570 --> 01:45:58,170 would never admit it, or want to be confronted about it, which 1774 01:45:58,170 --> 01:46:02,430 can lead to the higher deaths because of conflicts. me I am a 1775 01:46:02,430 --> 01:46:06,210 lower middle class just getting by American white trans. I live 1776 01:46:06,210 --> 01:46:09,120 in a safe area. I have a longtime career and I pass as a 1777 01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:12,930 woman, I don't get into social justice warrior trans advocates 1778 01:46:12,930 --> 01:46:16,380 life as I see that as being dangerous. Also, I've said to 1779 01:46:16,380 --> 01:46:20,880 you guys before, transgender is not a gender, it's a medical 1780 01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:23,610 term indicating you're transitioning to the opposite 1781 01:46:23,610 --> 01:46:27,750 gender, with trans people being fully out and open also can lead 1782 01:46:27,750 --> 01:46:30,960 to these high murder rates. Hell, of course, it isn't even 1783 01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:35,490 counting the suicides note for John, I do not agree with anyone 1784 01:46:35,490 --> 01:46:38,730 under 18 being transitioned people underestimate the power 1785 01:46:38,730 --> 01:46:42,300 of hormones, and how they affect the mind and the body after 1786 01:46:42,300 --> 01:46:44,730 puberty when the proper transition timeline should be 1787 01:46:44,730 --> 01:46:49,470 visited. And she posted a link there. So there you go. And now 1788 01:46:49,470 --> 01:46:50,850 we understand why it's never 1789 01:46:51,150 --> 01:46:53,520 John C. Dvorak: a reasonable person who listens to the show. 1790 01:46:53,550 --> 01:46:57,420 Adam Curry: Yeah, yes. He's not triggered not pissed off, not 1791 01:46:57,420 --> 01:47:00,780 angry and gave us an honest answer. It's her opinion. I've 1792 01:47:00,780 --> 01:47:05,340 heard this. But you will never hear this from people who are 1793 01:47:05,340 --> 01:47:08,910 yelling and an activist. It appears there may be an issue in 1794 01:47:08,910 --> 01:47:13,140 the black community and the trans community itself. But they 1795 01:47:13,140 --> 01:47:16,710 make it seem like it the patriarchy is killing black 1796 01:47:16,710 --> 01:47:21,810 trans women white white men. That's very cisgender Yes. So 1797 01:47:21,810 --> 01:47:23,550 thank you very much ally Jade 1798 01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:26,220 John C. Dvorak: stand for anyway CIS CIS what does that mean? 1799 01:47:26,220 --> 01:47:26,400 Let's 1800 01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:28,080 Adam Curry: what you are you and I are cis. 1801 01:47:28,469 --> 01:47:30,509 John C. Dvorak: But what does it mean? What is the worst that 1802 01:47:30,509 --> 01:47:31,649 word come from? 1803 01:47:32,099 --> 01:47:33,299 Adam Curry: We should know this. 1804 01:47:33,330 --> 01:47:36,060 John C. Dvorak: Why do we use it? I don't use it. 1805 01:47:36,629 --> 01:47:37,859 Adam Curry: I use it all the time and 1806 01:47:37,860 --> 01:47:40,290 John C. Dvorak: the kids use it. Why did the kids 1807 01:47:44,340 --> 01:47:48,240 Adam Curry: okay cisgender definition of Sis sis for 1808 01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:54,120 cisgender This is from Merriam Webster, of relating to or being 1809 01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:57,720 a person whose gender identity corresponds with the sex the 1810 01:47:57,720 --> 01:48:02,880 person had or was identified as having at birth. So somehow the 1811 01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:04,440 SIS comes from 1812 01:48:05,820 --> 01:48:09,870 corresponding maybe no they should tell us what it is you 1813 01:48:09,870 --> 01:48:11,730 right I really don't understand she 1814 01:48:11,730 --> 01:48:13,110 John C. Dvorak: brought it up at the table and somebody at the 1815 01:48:13,110 --> 01:48:16,740 table knew and I forgot it has it's like a chemical term. It's 1816 01:48:16,740 --> 01:48:20,940 like you know you have these ISO propyl Oh, like like molecular 1817 01:48:20,940 --> 01:48:23,850 structure? Yes. Like sis has something to do with it's 1818 01:48:23,850 --> 01:48:25,650 something I don't even yeah, here we go. Here we 1819 01:48:25,650 --> 01:48:29,130 Adam Curry: go sis adjective denoting or relating to a 1820 01:48:29,130 --> 01:48:33,300 molecular structure in which two particle atoms or groups lie on 1821 01:48:33,300 --> 01:48:37,200 the same side of a given plane in the molecule, a particular 1822 01:48:37,200 --> 01:48:43,080 donut denoting an isomer, in which substituents at opposite 1823 01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:46,770 ends of a carbon carbon double bond are on the same side of the 1824 01:48:46,770 --> 01:48:51,840 bond. Cheese Can I kind of be called something else? I'd 1825 01:48:51,840 --> 01:48:55,260 rather you call me. Carbon. I don't want to be carbon carbon 1826 01:48:55,260 --> 01:48:59,220 bond. This is no good. By the way, big Mia culpa from my side. 1827 01:48:59,400 --> 01:49:02,610 Oh, my goodness. I was blown away by this and I'm very upset 1828 01:49:02,640 --> 01:49:08,580 with myself. As it pertains to our conversation about Jennifer 1829 01:49:08,580 --> 01:49:14,400 Aniston, whether she is from California or Austin, and I said 1830 01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:17,160 there's only one actress from Austin. That's Sandy Bullock. 1831 01:49:18,060 --> 01:49:22,110 And she is our hometown girl. And I was slapped in the face by 1832 01:49:22,110 --> 01:49:24,210 the truth, a big fat check false. 1833 01:49:25,500 --> 01:49:31,920 I quote you from Arlington magazine, not in Texas, in 1834 01:49:33,510 --> 01:49:39,210 Arlington District of Columbia. Long, long before actress Sandra 1835 01:49:39,210 --> 01:49:42,150 Bullock won an Oscar for her performance in The Blind Side. 1836 01:49:42,150 --> 01:49:45,870 She was stirring things up at Washington Lee High School as 1837 01:49:45,870 --> 01:49:49,320 president of its pep club. Bullock's family landed in 1838 01:49:49,320 --> 01:49:52,860 Arlington when her father took a job at the Pentagon. Her parents 1839 01:49:52,860 --> 01:49:56,370 bought a white brick house on 26th Street in Woodmont, where 1840 01:49:56,370 --> 01:49:59,010 her mother an opera singer reportedly entertained party 1841 01:49:59,010 --> 01:50:02,100 guests by belly dance Dancing. Although the actress has said in 1842 01:50:02,100 --> 01:50:05,490 interviews she was teased in junior high, bollock blossomed 1843 01:50:05,490 --> 01:50:08,850 at Washington Leigh as a varsity cheerleader and drama student, 1844 01:50:09,060 --> 01:50:12,810 the future star was even voted class clown and funniest by her 1845 01:50:12,810 --> 01:50:18,990 1982 graduating class, she is zero Texan. She's just here for 1846 01:50:18,990 --> 01:50:25,080 the taxes of lack of taxes, which is smart, but oh my. She's 1847 01:50:25,080 --> 01:50:26,280 not part of us. 1848 01:50:27,570 --> 01:50:28,590 She's a spook. 1849 01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:32,670 Born in the same hospital. I was born in Arlington hospital three 1850 01:50:32,670 --> 01:50:40,470 months before me. Spoke taxes, taxes, taxes, the taxes. 1851 01:50:41,790 --> 01:50:42,540 And 1852 01:50:43,770 --> 01:50:47,670 I think this is a an important clip we should play and discuss 1853 01:50:47,670 --> 01:50:53,820 briefly, as we kind of tore apart the whole China NBA thing 1854 01:50:53,820 --> 01:50:57,720 on the last show the TPP how Obama was all in with Nike. 1855 01:50:59,310 --> 01:51:02,190 Where was this going to lead? What was going to happen? was 1856 01:51:02,190 --> 01:51:05,220 King James gonna say anything? Would LeBron come out and make a 1857 01:51:05,220 --> 01:51:09,660 statement? And LeBron James came out, made a statement, possibly 1858 01:51:09,660 --> 01:51:13,530 the shittiest statement he could have made ever and here it is. 1859 01:51:13,560 --> 01:51:16,230 We all talk about this freedom of speech. Yes, we all do have 1860 01:51:16,230 --> 01:51:19,590 freedom of speech. But at times, there are ramifications for the 1861 01:51:19,590 --> 01:51:23,160 negative that can happen. When you're not thinking about 1862 01:51:23,160 --> 01:51:26,160 others, and only you're only thinking about yourself, so I 1863 01:51:26,160 --> 01:51:30,390 don't believe I don't want to get into a word, word or 1864 01:51:30,390 --> 01:51:35,130 sentence feud with Darrell with Daryl Morey, but I believe he 1865 01:51:35,130 --> 01:51:39,930 wasn't educated on on the situation at hand, and any spoke 1866 01:51:40,290 --> 01:51:44,970 and so many people could have been harmed. Not only 1867 01:51:44,970 --> 01:51:49,050 financially but physically, emotionally spiritually. So just 1868 01:51:49,050 --> 01:51:52,620 be careful what we what we tweet when we say what we do, even 1869 01:51:52,620 --> 01:51:56,220 though yes, we do have free speech, but there can be a lot 1870 01:51:56,220 --> 01:51:57,360 of negative consequences. You 1871 01:51:57,570 --> 01:52:01,740 know, I've watched ESPN, I watched Fox Sports one. I 1872 01:52:01,740 --> 01:52:05,340 watched all the newscast. Nowhere did I hear anyone 1873 01:52:05,340 --> 01:52:10,650 deconstruct King James's statement to hold on a second 1874 01:52:11,070 --> 01:52:16,620 first of all, he said more a the manager was uneducated owner own 1875 01:52:16,620 --> 01:52:22,020 Houston second owner on educated but he could have hurt people 1876 01:52:22,320 --> 01:52:28,440 first on the list financially. Not not about you know, hurt 1877 01:52:28,440 --> 01:52:32,700 their feelings or anything else. financially. Then it was actual 1878 01:52:32,700 --> 01:52:37,320 bodily harm. mental, spiritual, spiritual 1879 01:52:37,320 --> 01:52:38,610 John C. Dvorak: anguish. Yeah, but 1880 01:52:38,970 --> 01:52:40,800 Adam Curry: financial at the top 1881 01:52:40,860 --> 01:52:46,650 of the list. I'm telling you, LeBron James is auditioning to 1882 01:52:46,650 --> 01:52:49,530 be an owner, because he's got what it takes ladies and 1883 01:52:49,530 --> 01:52:55,140 gentlemen. Douchebag, who cares only about money and shut up 1884 01:52:55,140 --> 01:52:59,400 about anything else. To be an owner soon watch. And I don't 1885 01:52:59,400 --> 01:53:02,400 John C. Dvorak: get the word. It's been a foregone conclusion. 1886 01:53:02,400 --> 01:53:06,990 This is the richest guy in sports. But he I surprised he. 1887 01:53:07,890 --> 01:53:12,300 He said anything about the uneducated comment. All he said 1888 01:53:12,300 --> 01:53:15,750 was I have sympathy for the people of Hong Kong. He didn't 1889 01:53:15,750 --> 01:53:16,350 even really 1890 01:53:16,410 --> 01:53:19,230 Adam Curry: uneducated. No, he was uneducated, because he was 1891 01:53:19,260 --> 01:53:22,020 on You gotta listen to what LeBron is saying. Because God 1892 01:53:22,020 --> 01:53:22,140 has 1893 01:53:22,980 --> 01:53:24,570 John C. Dvorak: to tell you, Okay, he's saying he's 1894 01:53:24,570 --> 01:53:28,200 uneducated, but not as an idiot for saying anything about Hong 1895 01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:31,530 Kong or not knowing anything, but he's uneducated by the fact 1896 01:53:31,530 --> 01:53:35,130 that he doesn't realise Yes, just by saying anything 1897 01:53:35,130 --> 01:53:37,230 whatsoever is gonna cost me money. Yes, 1898 01:53:37,560 --> 01:53:41,910 Adam Curry: that's right. That's exactly right. It's despicable. 1899 01:53:42,480 --> 01:53:43,620 John C. Dvorak: It is pretty bad. 1900 01:53:43,860 --> 01:53:47,190 Adam Curry: I mean, how can you still watch the game knowing 1901 01:53:47,190 --> 01:53:50,220 that this is how they think they don't give a shit about you? 1902 01:53:50,370 --> 01:53:53,250 You're John, you're the big fan of the warriors. Oh, Steph 1903 01:53:53,250 --> 01:53:56,250 Curry. Oh, they're they don't care. They don't care about you. 1904 01:53:56,400 --> 01:53:57,690 They do not care. 1905 01:53:57,720 --> 01:54:00,360 John C. Dvorak: I made a total agreement with this thinking and 1906 01:54:00,360 --> 01:54:04,320 I was watching the Twitter's go on it. And Chuck D is like 1907 01:54:04,350 --> 01:54:07,650 you're totally involved defending LeBron. 1908 01:54:07,650 --> 01:54:12,180 Adam Curry: Really? Another guy get out of here, Chuck D. That's 1909 01:54:12,180 --> 01:54:16,110 just so insulting, money grubbing. Gosh, shoot, I'm 1910 01:54:16,110 --> 01:54:19,530 sorry. I dammit. I missed this on the trans segment. Can I just 1911 01:54:19,560 --> 01:54:21,570 take it back to the trans segment even though I closed it 1912 01:54:21,570 --> 01:54:27,030 out? Okay. Here's the British Chief of Police. As you know, in 1913 01:54:27,030 --> 01:54:30,570 the United Kingdom misgendering someone is illegal. 1914 01:54:33,240 --> 01:54:35,730 Unknown: Today is International pronouns day, which is the day 1915 01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:39,150 particularly important to people who identify as transgender or 1916 01:54:39,150 --> 01:54:42,540 gender non conforming. being misgendered can have a huge 1917 01:54:42,540 --> 01:54:45,930 impact on somebody and their personal well being. It also can 1918 01:54:45,930 --> 01:54:48,960 be used as a form of abuse for somebody. And that just isn't 1919 01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:52,260 right. Today is about raising awareness, getting people to 1920 01:54:52,260 --> 01:54:54,870 have conversations and understanding why it is so 1921 01:54:54,870 --> 01:54:58,080 important to understand the pronouns that somebody wishes to 1922 01:54:58,080 --> 01:55:01,080 be used for them. Have a good day. Have a 1923 01:55:01,080 --> 01:55:04,230 Adam Curry: good day. Hey, you go that's the police. 1924 01:55:04,230 --> 01:55:07,680 John C. Dvorak: That's when I was a kid during the 60s. You'd 1925 01:55:07,680 --> 01:55:11,790 have long hair, because everybody did. Yeah. Late 1926 01:55:11,790 --> 01:55:17,430 60s 70s 70s In particular, and once in a while, you used to be 1927 01:55:17,430 --> 01:55:20,970 gas stations, attendants. And you'd roll down your windows and 1928 01:55:20,970 --> 01:55:23,850 say, What can I do for you, ma'am? You'd get that every so 1929 01:55:23,850 --> 01:55:24,870 often because it's your hair. 1930 01:55:24,900 --> 01:55:25,320 Unknown: Sure. 1931 01:55:26,430 --> 01:55:29,670 John C. Dvorak: Well, so I should be all upset about this. 1932 01:55:29,670 --> 01:55:33,300 And I should sue them again. Call the cops. Because that was 1933 01:55:33,300 --> 01:55:34,770 misgendered. Yeah. 1934 01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:40,260 Adam Curry: That's interesting, because when I was a kid, I had 1935 01:55:40,260 --> 01:55:48,510 long hair. This was 72. And you know, we had the Schwinn chopper 1936 01:55:48,510 --> 01:55:52,440 bike, banana saddle. You know, then I was all sudden, I moved 1937 01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:56,460 to Holland, and no one had my hair. And I got pastored a lot. 1938 01:55:56,460 --> 01:55:58,530 And a lot of people said, How about your daughter? What's your 1939 01:55:58,530 --> 01:56:01,650 daughter doing? And I was misgendered throughout my entire 1940 01:56:01,650 --> 01:56:07,050 youth. And I want some reparation. reparations. 1941 01:56:07,650 --> 01:56:13,290 reparations. reparations for being misgendered and I'm sure 1942 01:56:13,290 --> 01:56:15,270 it affected me I remember has always sucked. 1943 01:56:16,170 --> 01:56:19,380 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I do. Or nervous tics. Yeah, 1944 01:56:19,410 --> 01:56:21,570 Adam Curry: that's when it started around seven. That's 1945 01:56:21,570 --> 01:56:27,900 exactly right. It's not nervous. Texas. Tourette syndrome is I'm 1946 01:56:27,900 --> 01:56:29,310 a victim. I'm a victim. 1947 01:56:29,549 --> 01:56:32,129 John C. Dvorak: I think all nervous tics or Tourette's. Oh, 1948 01:56:32,129 --> 01:56:32,759 no, that's, 1949 01:56:33,240 --> 01:56:36,090 Adam Curry: I've talked about this pedantic but I talked about 1950 01:56:36,090 --> 01:56:39,210 with Botanik. And he said, you know about it. He's a 1951 01:56:39,210 --> 01:56:42,960 psychologist, and a psychiatrist. And as something 1952 01:56:42,960 --> 01:56:46,680 other ist he studied it some versus a captain. 1953 01:56:49,710 --> 01:56:54,270 He's said, no, no, no. Actually, his explanation was worse. He 1954 01:56:54,270 --> 01:56:56,100 doesn't believe so you don't have Tourette's? I said, What do 1955 01:56:56,100 --> 01:56:57,990 you mean, look, I'm taking all over the place that's not 1956 01:56:57,990 --> 01:57:00,480 Tourette's. I said, I could work with you and find it. It's just 1957 01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:03,000 some severe trauma from your youth. I'm like, I'd rather have 1958 01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:06,540 Tourette's. I don't want to know, I don't fuck with my head. 1959 01:57:06,540 --> 01:57:08,940 I don't want to deal with the severe trauma was Steve. Thanks. 1960 01:57:11,730 --> 01:57:14,100 John C. Dvorak: So it could be he's one of those guys. 1961 01:57:14,129 --> 01:57:16,199 Adam Curry: It could be the misgendering. 1962 01:57:18,030 --> 01:57:19,140 Unknown: It's possible. 1963 01:57:20,610 --> 01:57:21,750 John C. Dvorak: Not a girl. And 1964 01:57:21,750 --> 01:57:24,750 Adam Curry: now that I've gotten that out, maybe don't think 1965 01:57:24,750 --> 01:57:28,890 maybe the ticks will stop. Oh, my God. It could actually could 1966 01:57:28,890 --> 01:57:37,320 actually work. Nope, it didn't. I just ticked OTG going Oh, time 1967 01:57:37,320 --> 01:57:41,190 for another OTG road card. That's right. 1968 01:57:41,220 --> 01:57:45,480 John C. Dvorak: OTG going oh, no, t g guyhnic. 1969 01:57:49,620 --> 01:57:52,320 Adam Curry: Yes, if you're new, and we love to give you reasons 1970 01:57:52,320 --> 01:57:56,280 to consider going off the grid, or as Andrew Yang did not say 1971 01:57:56,460 --> 01:58:00,810 break up with big tech break up with them. You really don't need 1972 01:58:00,810 --> 01:58:04,980 them. Here's what's happening. Four stories. The first one, my 1973 01:58:04,980 --> 01:58:10,290 favourite ad blocker, which many people use, you block origin? 1974 01:58:10,500 --> 01:58:14,580 You may even use that? Do you use it? You block origin? I 1975 01:58:14,580 --> 01:58:18,060 don't use that. It's very famous. Lots of people use it. 1976 01:58:18,330 --> 01:58:24,390 Google has now rejecting that it may no longer be installed from 1977 01:58:24,390 --> 01:58:27,690 the Chrome Web Store if actually it may not be able to be 1978 01:58:27,690 --> 01:58:29,100 installed at all. 1979 01:58:30,030 --> 01:58:32,850 John C. Dvorak: Like to be quiet because it works. 1980 01:58:32,880 --> 01:58:36,120 Adam Curry: Yes. You didn't let me do the punch line. Yes, 1981 01:58:36,120 --> 01:58:38,760 John C. Dvorak: because it works. You got punch line mania? 1982 01:58:38,790 --> 01:58:45,090 Adam Curry: That's exactly it. It's because it works. The I 1983 01:58:45,090 --> 01:58:50,940 mean, there was an interview in the Macy's the daily No, not the 1984 01:58:50,940 --> 01:58:51,570 mail. 1985 01:58:52,950 --> 01:58:57,360 There was an interview with Google 1986 01:58:57,690 --> 01:59:01,020 muckety muck. I'm trying to find his name now. I'm sorry. I 1987 01:59:01,020 --> 01:59:04,890 thought it was better prepared than that. With the UK 1988 01:59:05,220 --> 01:59:11,460 publication. And he was asked a question. It says Google's Oh, 1989 01:59:11,460 --> 01:59:15,450 Google's devices chief. Okay, Chief of devices over at Google. 1990 01:59:15,450 --> 01:59:20,100 Thanks, BBC. Great reporting. I'm sure that's his title, Chief 1991 01:59:20,100 --> 01:59:24,330 devices. After being challenged as to whether homeowners should 1992 01:59:24,330 --> 01:59:29,190 tell guests that smart devices such as the Google nest speaker, 1993 01:59:29,340 --> 01:59:33,180 or Amazon Echo display are in use before they enter the 1994 01:59:33,180 --> 01:59:36,480 building. He concludes the answer is indeed Yes. He says, 1995 01:59:36,480 --> 01:59:40,470 gosh, I haven't thought about that that way in quite that way 1996 01:59:40,470 --> 01:59:44,370 before. Rick apostolic that's his name. It's quite important 1997 01:59:44,370 --> 01:59:47,430 for all these technologies to think about all users we have to 1998 01:59:47,430 --> 01:59:51,450 consider all stakeholders that might be in proximity. Well, he 1999 01:59:51,450 --> 01:59:54,180 says I think you probably should tell guests before they come 2000 01:59:54,180 --> 01:59:58,680 into your house that you are being listened to by Google and 2001 01:59:58,680 --> 02:00:04,860 Amazon Hello Oh, a moment of clarity you know he'll be ex 2002 02:00:04,860 --> 02:00:09,210 chief of devices if he keeps that up very sad news about 2003 02:00:09,210 --> 02:00:10,920 Apple Safari browser 2004 02:00:11,130 --> 02:00:15,240 John C. Dvorak: will before you go on so maybe we should have 2005 02:00:15,240 --> 02:00:19,560 some countermeasures as as pedestrians wandering into 2006 02:00:19,560 --> 02:00:22,170 someone's house there's a lot of people that have these devices 2007 02:00:22,410 --> 02:00:26,580 so yeah and when you see whatever house you walk into 2008 02:00:26,610 --> 02:00:30,150 know what the devices are and it's just randomly send them 2009 02:00:30,150 --> 02:00:31,200 some commands. 2010 02:00:31,950 --> 02:00:32,880 Adam Curry: Well, how do you do that? 2011 02:00:35,250 --> 02:00:38,970 John C. Dvorak: Hello Google then you just tell the race my 2012 02:00:39,000 --> 02:00:44,430 phone Oh, no, no Google No. factory standard now 2013 02:00:44,430 --> 02:00:48,060 Adam Curry: that's a that's not going to work. Be that is not 2014 02:00:48,060 --> 02:00:52,770 going to embarrass your host. Here's what you do. Hey, Google, 2015 02:00:52,860 --> 02:00:58,410 look up some but porn now that now that will embarrass your 2016 02:00:58,410 --> 02:01:00,810 host and that will make them think twice about it. 2017 02:01:02,790 --> 02:01:05,310 John C. Dvorak: That what would you do with the Alexa? Hey, 2018 02:01:05,310 --> 02:01:06,000 Alexa? 2019 02:01:09,120 --> 02:01:12,390 Adam Curry: How much how much is but porn this week in the MSA? 2020 02:01:12,390 --> 02:01:14,700 You can just keep just do say horrible things. 2021 02:01:15,000 --> 02:01:17,550 You should. You shouldn't well, you should 2022 02:01:18,900 --> 02:01:22,800 on iOS. And this is very disturbing. I've always thought 2023 02:01:22,950 --> 02:01:27,240 and I have more disturbing news really about Apple. I've always 2024 02:01:27,270 --> 02:01:32,970 kind of considered Apple to be reasonably okay with privacy for 2025 02:01:32,970 --> 02:01:37,230 their customers. You know, think about what they what they do 2026 02:01:37,230 --> 02:01:40,470 when they don't want and not since they make a big deal of it 2027 02:01:40,470 --> 02:01:41,280 for sure. 2028 02:01:41,639 --> 02:01:44,069 John C. Dvorak: They talk a big game they told us they try. 2029 02:01:46,890 --> 02:01:49,050 Adam Curry: One of the I'm reading here from I don't know 2030 02:01:49,050 --> 02:01:53,820 what this article is. It's been discovered that apple which of 2031 02:01:53,820 --> 02:01:56,940 course often positions itself as a champion and privacy of human 2032 02:01:56,940 --> 02:02:01,740 rights, is sending some IP addresses from users of its 2033 02:02:01,740 --> 02:02:06,900 Safari browser on iOS, that's your iPad and your iPhone to 2034 02:02:06,930 --> 02:02:12,030 Chinese conglomerate Tencent. And Apple admits it does send 2035 02:02:12,030 --> 02:02:16,230 some user IP addresses ie who you are where you are connected 2036 02:02:16,230 --> 02:02:19,440 your address of connection, which can tell you a lot about a 2037 02:02:19,440 --> 02:02:23,700 person if their IP address stays consistent. Apple admits it 2038 02:02:23,700 --> 02:02:28,290 sends some user IP addresses to 10 cent in the about Safari and 2039 02:02:28,290 --> 02:02:31,770 Privacy section of its settings. And that's under the title 2040 02:02:31,770 --> 02:02:34,050 fraudulent website warning. Here's where it gets 2041 02:02:34,050 --> 02:02:38,550 interesting. Before visiting a website, Safari may send 2042 02:02:38,550 --> 02:02:43,800 information calculated from the website address to Google Safe 2043 02:02:43,800 --> 02:02:48,300 Browsing, and 10 cent Safe Browsing to check if the website 2044 02:02:48,300 --> 02:02:49,500 is fraudulent. 2045 02:02:51,420 --> 02:02:56,640 This disqualifies Apple completely, completely, 2046 02:02:56,640 --> 02:03:01,260 especially sending it to Google entered into the shiners. 2047 02:03:02,820 --> 02:03:07,530 I find endless. No one's really saying much about it. I guess 2048 02:03:07,530 --> 02:03:10,800 everyone loves it. I find that no one says 2049 02:03:10,800 --> 02:03:13,110 John C. Dvorak: anything about it because nobody nowadays and 2050 02:03:13,230 --> 02:03:16,830 nobody cares what's going on. They're just clueless. Oh, new 2051 02:03:16,830 --> 02:03:19,680 phone. Let's unbox it right. 2052 02:03:21,750 --> 02:03:26,970 Adam Curry: So there is a new OTG phone on the way to me. It 2053 02:03:26,970 --> 02:03:31,350 is loaded with the follow up to Copperhead OS, which is my 2054 02:03:31,350 --> 02:03:34,380 something with it am I forget what it is. And I was reading 2055 02:03:34,380 --> 02:03:36,750 through the documentation, one of our producers are sending it 2056 02:03:36,750 --> 02:03:39,900 to me so I can test it out. Here's something I overlooked 2057 02:03:39,930 --> 02:03:45,510 with the whole. Don't be tracked. And don't be annoyed 2058 02:03:45,930 --> 02:03:50,160 that now this this operating system is a complete hardened, 2059 02:03:50,250 --> 02:03:56,490 no Google Android, that is just Android. Nothing that has Google 2060 02:03:56,490 --> 02:03:58,920 on it is in there. But it does something that I had not 2061 02:03:58,920 --> 02:04:02,670 considered that you cannot block. At least you cannot block 2062 02:04:02,670 --> 02:04:08,010 it on any type of operating system except for this one. And 2063 02:04:08,040 --> 02:04:11,310 that is that the apps communicate with each other all 2064 02:04:11,310 --> 02:04:15,030 the time. And this is not disclosed. It's not really 2065 02:04:15,030 --> 02:04:21,120 discussed. And so this operating system has network switches that 2066 02:04:21,120 --> 02:04:24,540 you can determine by each individual app should you choose 2067 02:04:24,540 --> 02:04:28,500 to use apps. But in general, it's a complete Google free 2068 02:04:28,620 --> 02:04:33,390 hardened lockdown it changes your MAC address. So that's your 2069 02:04:33,420 --> 02:04:38,520 physical network card address randomly on every connection 2070 02:04:39,450 --> 02:04:44,700 saying Yeah, same for the cellular MAC address. So it does 2071 02:04:44,700 --> 02:04:48,210 a lot of these things. And I'm going to be trying it out to see 2072 02:04:48,270 --> 02:04:52,170 I think it may be a very good replacement for my from my 2073 02:04:52,170 --> 02:04:57,390 current iPhone hardened iPhone five, and I'll be reporting on 2074 02:04:57,390 --> 02:05:01,200 that. But I didn't even consider how much Just going on under the 2075 02:05:01,200 --> 02:05:03,900 hood, what these apps are talking to each other 2076 02:05:03,900 --> 02:05:07,710 consistently and constantly. So hopefully this will be and this 2077 02:05:07,710 --> 02:05:10,470 will be something that you could load on your phone to. And it 2078 02:05:10,470 --> 02:05:13,290 uses F droid for its applications. So these are 2079 02:05:13,530 --> 02:05:18,750 complete Google free, all open source source code available. I 2080 02:05:18,750 --> 02:05:21,900 think they use K nine mail as the mail client. And I've used 2081 02:05:21,900 --> 02:05:26,220 that before. And that may be a good way to not be tracked. And 2082 02:05:26,250 --> 02:05:29,370 of course, because it's not an official operating system 2083 02:05:29,370 --> 02:05:33,630 supported by a big company, nor are the apps it'll be so shit to 2084 02:05:33,630 --> 02:05:36,660 use, you won't want to, which is the whole point. You don't want 2085 02:05:36,660 --> 02:05:39,270 to use anything on your phone, do it on your computer at home, 2086 02:05:39,270 --> 02:05:44,280 that's fine. And don't let anybody track you. That's not 2087 02:05:44,280 --> 02:05:44,760 healthy. 2088 02:05:47,550 --> 02:05:50,550 And that's my OTG report for today. That's good enough. 2089 02:05:52,830 --> 02:05:55,740 John C. Dvorak: All right. Well, my phone's off, it's in the 2090 02:05:55,740 --> 02:05:57,960 drawer. Yeah, but 2091 02:05:57,960 --> 02:05:59,790 Adam Curry: when you turn it back on, it sends all that 2092 02:05:59,790 --> 02:06:03,030 information over to Google and Tencent and who knows what else 2093 02:06:03,480 --> 02:06:05,340 John C. Dvorak: I load this new thing on there. I'm good with 2094 02:06:05,340 --> 02:06:05,880 it. Yeah, 2095 02:06:05,910 --> 02:06:10,500 Adam Curry: you know your flash ROM Yeah, well, I 2096 02:06:10,740 --> 02:06:11,280 John C. Dvorak: don't know. 2097 02:06:11,400 --> 02:06:13,080 Adam Curry: That's what you gotta do you got to flash the 2098 02:06:13,080 --> 02:06:13,770 ROM to do it. 2099 02:06:13,830 --> 02:06:15,330 John C. Dvorak: I love to flash the ROM 2100 02:06:18,870 --> 02:06:20,040 Unknown: Yes, and 2101 02:06:21,210 --> 02:06:23,700 John C. Dvorak: here's a good i gotta say, you know, this firing 2102 02:06:23,700 --> 02:06:26,550 of this Ukrainian ambassador, the first one, you know, the 2103 02:06:26,550 --> 02:06:29,580 woman this thing has been getting on my nerves because 2104 02:06:29,580 --> 02:06:32,520 there's a disinformation is being lost in the shuffle here. 2105 02:06:32,880 --> 02:06:37,740 And here's one of the clip I have is this is brooks of Brooks 2106 02:06:37,740 --> 02:06:41,460 and shield. You know, the two guys in this particular episode, 2107 02:06:41,460 --> 02:06:45,300 which was last Friday. The two of them went on. I agree with 2108 02:06:45,300 --> 02:06:47,970 him. Oh, I agree with him. I agree with you. I agree with you 2109 02:06:47,970 --> 02:06:52,860 more than like Chippendale these two. Yeah. So this is Brooks on 2110 02:06:52,860 --> 02:06:54,300 Ukraine firing. 2111 02:06:54,360 --> 02:06:57,120 Unknown: I mean, every day, it's a blizzard of something. The 2112 02:06:57,120 --> 02:07:00,750 Ivanovic thing today. It made me think like how many other people 2113 02:07:00,750 --> 02:07:03,990 are involved in this because to fire an ambassador, you can't 2114 02:07:03,990 --> 02:07:06,210 just do it president to Ambassador the whole senior 2115 02:07:06,210 --> 02:07:08,490 echelon of the State Department has to be involved in some way, 2116 02:07:08,670 --> 02:07:11,850 in the firing of a credible, competent ambassador for 2117 02:07:11,850 --> 02:07:14,820 political reasons. I mean, how often does that happen without 2118 02:07:14,850 --> 02:07:17,580 with no resignations, and in normal administration, you get a 2119 02:07:17,580 --> 02:07:19,470 bunch of resignations from with that would ever happen. 2120 02:07:21,510 --> 02:07:22,560 Adam Curry: Please, 2121 02:07:23,520 --> 02:07:26,070 John C. Dvorak: thank you. First of all, the woman was part she 2122 02:07:26,070 --> 02:07:28,500 did her. Most of these ambassadors. If you look over 2123 02:07:28,500 --> 02:07:31,110 the list of all ambassadors, they've all they all stay in 2124 02:07:31,110 --> 02:07:35,370 office about three to four years max, yeah, they gotta get about 2125 02:07:35,370 --> 02:07:38,310 three, three and a half years and she was at the end of her 2126 02:07:38,310 --> 02:07:41,910 term. But more importantly, is an article that I pulled down 2127 02:07:42,090 --> 02:07:46,800 from David Brooks is full of crap. It is another lie. On 2128 02:07:47,820 --> 02:07:48,600 Unknown: Friday, 2129 02:07:49,170 --> 02:07:54,390 John C. Dvorak: January 20 2017. In this was a report on the day 2130 02:07:54,390 --> 02:07:59,910 before that, before Trump's inauguration headline. Donald 2131 02:07:59,910 --> 02:08:03,930 Trump has fired all US foreign ambassadors who had nobody to 2132 02:08:03,930 --> 02:08:07,920 replace them, right? Yeah, the day before he got inaugurated he 2133 02:08:07,920 --> 02:08:12,780 fired all the ambassadors and now they do article which is in 2134 02:08:12,780 --> 02:08:17,670 the debate in the independent UK publication. They bitch and moan 2135 02:08:17,670 --> 02:08:20,520 about the fact that well, this happens all the time but and 2136 02:08:20,520 --> 02:08:22,920 they usually set these guys up for the three and three to four 2137 02:08:22,920 --> 02:08:25,260 year period. So it's it's going to happen to the next guy when 2138 02:08:25,260 --> 02:08:30,300 he gets in. And apparently everybody does this and but they 2139 02:08:30,300 --> 02:08:33,360 usually have somebody in mind and fill the jobs normally 2140 02:08:33,360 --> 02:08:37,020 patronage, a big donor, a big donor, a big donor goes here, 2141 02:08:37,020 --> 02:08:42,150 big donor goes there, like the one of the one of the Barzun, I 2142 02:08:42,150 --> 02:08:47,250 think was a guy who was England, he quit like a week before. He 2143 02:08:47,250 --> 02:08:51,720 was the he was a big donor of package or a bundler for Obama, 2144 02:08:51,720 --> 02:08:55,410 and he quit like a week before Trump got in. But they all did 2145 02:08:55,410 --> 02:08:58,410 except just one woman. She stuck around for some reason she never 2146 02:08:58,410 --> 02:09:02,130 quit, she finally quit. And when her term was kind of up in May, 2147 02:09:02,130 --> 02:09:05,430 it wasn't like he just fired her last week, which would everyone 2148 02:09:05,460 --> 02:09:09,960 wants to think this is really poorly done in terms of like 2149 02:09:10,020 --> 02:09:10,950 execution. 2150 02:09:11,040 --> 02:09:14,730 Adam Curry: It's, it's just untruthful. And no, it's just 2151 02:09:15,060 --> 02:09:18,930 not so long. I don't know if these guys are lying or they're 2152 02:09:18,930 --> 02:09:22,350 just stupid. But everybody knows how ambassadorships work. That's 2153 02:09:22,350 --> 02:09:25,680 exactly the point. And then to say, oh, no, the whole State 2154 02:09:25,680 --> 02:09:27,660 Department has to wait. You know, this is a career 2155 02:09:27,660 --> 02:09:34,140 politician, please. She was apparently looking. Trolling 2156 02:09:34,140 --> 02:09:37,710 social media, making sure that no one was saying anything bad 2157 02:09:37,710 --> 02:09:42,420 and which the Republicans and Fox News called spying but it's 2158 02:09:42,420 --> 02:09:47,640 just the whole thing. Um, so I don't want to talk about Ukraine 2159 02:09:47,640 --> 02:09:51,390 because it's meaningless. It doesn't mean anything. It's, 2160 02:09:51,630 --> 02:09:55,020 it's just want to get impeachment going. And we're 2161 02:09:55,020 --> 02:09:57,030 right back at the beginning of the show where we started. 2162 02:09:57,030 --> 02:09:57,690 That's all. 2163 02:09:58,590 --> 02:10:00,450 John C. Dvorak: There's another live stream of news As I was 2164 02:10:00,450 --> 02:10:03,330 pointing out earlier, which is these untold news stories, you 2165 02:10:03,330 --> 02:10:04,980 know, that we do aren't really getting a lot of play like 2166 02:10:04,980 --> 02:10:09,570 Mexico going from marijuana. Yeah, I want to bounce a little 2167 02:10:09,570 --> 02:10:15,630 bit with them with some American stories that are seemingly even 2168 02:10:15,630 --> 02:10:20,940 more important. Okay. And you have to listen to this. This is 2169 02:10:20,940 --> 02:10:26,610 Savannah Guthrie and Hoda. Talking about poor Matt Lauer 2170 02:10:26,610 --> 02:10:30,060 and the fact that he bought rape, some woman that used to 2171 02:10:30,060 --> 02:10:34,230 work at NBC, and this is the big news at NBC. 2172 02:10:35,820 --> 02:10:39,120 Adam Curry: You're always so nuanced for for 12 years now, 2173 02:10:39,120 --> 02:10:40,800 Unknown: don't you guys have ever felt like that? You know, 2174 02:10:40,800 --> 02:10:41,040 so? 2175 02:10:42,420 --> 02:10:43,860 Adam Curry: Wow, what happened there? 2176 02:10:45,750 --> 02:10:48,780 I think something was wrong with the beginning your clip, but it 2177 02:10:48,780 --> 02:10:50,100 starts here, I guess, 2178 02:10:50,310 --> 02:10:53,220 Unknown: like we owe it to our viewers to pause for a moment. 2179 02:10:54,360 --> 02:11:00,840 You know, this is shocking, and clear. And I honestly don't even 2180 02:11:00,870 --> 02:11:05,730 know what to say about it. I want to say that we I know it 2181 02:11:05,730 --> 02:11:08,880 wasn't easy for our colleague book to come forward, then. It's 2182 02:11:08,880 --> 02:11:12,960 not easy now. And we support her and any women who have come 2183 02:11:12,960 --> 02:11:16,320 forward with claims. And it's just very painful for all of us 2184 02:11:16,320 --> 02:11:21,450 at NBC and who aren't at the Today Show. And when, you know, 2185 02:11:21,450 --> 02:11:23,340 it's very, very, very difficult. 2186 02:11:23,820 --> 02:11:26,880 I'm looking at you and I'm having a weird moment that we 2187 02:11:26,880 --> 02:11:30,900 were sitting here just like this two years ago. And truth be told 2188 02:11:30,900 --> 02:11:33,270 Savannah and I did a little prayer upstairs just afford just 2189 02:11:33,270 --> 02:11:37,530 to sort of sort out what we were going to do. And I think it's 2190 02:11:37,590 --> 02:11:41,550 it's like you feel like you've known someone for for 12 years. 2191 02:11:41,550 --> 02:11:43,800 And I don't know if you guys have ever felt like that you 2192 02:11:43,800 --> 02:11:46,560 know, someone you know them, you feel like you know them inside 2193 02:11:46,560 --> 02:11:49,080 and out. And then all of a sudden, like a door opens up. 2194 02:11:49,080 --> 02:11:52,170 And it's a part of them. You didn't know. And we don't know 2195 02:11:52,170 --> 02:11:55,380 all the facts and all of this. But there are not allegations of 2196 02:11:55,380 --> 02:11:59,820 an affair. There are allegations of a crime. And I think that's 2197 02:11:59,850 --> 02:12:03,300 shocking to all of us here who've sat with Matt for many, 2198 02:12:03,330 --> 02:12:07,860 many years. So I think we're gonna just sort of continue to 2199 02:12:07,860 --> 02:12:12,120 process this part of this horrific story. And as you said, 2200 02:12:12,420 --> 02:12:15,270 you know, our thoughts are with Brooke, that's not easy what she 2201 02:12:15,270 --> 02:12:17,100 did to come forward. It's not easy at all. 2202 02:12:17,520 --> 02:12:21,360 And I think I speak for all of us were disturbed in our core. 2203 02:12:21,390 --> 02:12:24,630 Yeah. And we have a commitment to keep you informed and we 2204 02:12:24,630 --> 02:12:24,930 will. 2205 02:12:27,810 --> 02:12:29,730 Adam Curry: If I'm, if I may 2206 02:12:31,020 --> 02:12:36,270 1 of all they are our pawns in this game. They're being told to 2207 02:12:36,270 --> 02:12:40,530 focus entirely on Matt Lauer. And not on the actual issue at 2208 02:12:40,530 --> 02:12:46,170 hand. Last night Megyn Kelly, I did not clip it but she showed 2209 02:12:46,170 --> 02:12:52,230 up for a shoe like half of the show. Tucker Carlson Tonight, by 2210 02:12:52,230 --> 02:12:59,190 the way, Megan Kelly, back to short hair looks dynamite. Just 2211 02:12:59,370 --> 02:13:03,720 I mean and the Evans showed some old clips of her at her daytime 2212 02:13:03,720 --> 02:13:07,710 show at NBC and miss you just look it's Megan you know, she's 2213 02:13:07,710 --> 02:13:12,420 like wow, this is and she's think she's 48 Almost 50 just 2214 02:13:12,450 --> 02:13:17,520 fabulous. Looks great, looks happy. And she's on the warpath 2215 02:13:17,970 --> 02:13:21,960 and what she's saying is and this of course is only being 2216 02:13:21,960 --> 02:13:24,900 discussed now because of Ronan Farrow's book which I have not 2217 02:13:24,900 --> 02:13:29,970 read I have ordered it which really go which, you know, 2218 02:13:30,000 --> 02:13:36,750 busted open this, this rape, the story about this rape, but Megyn 2219 02:13:36,750 --> 02:13:41,790 Kelly's issue and I think it's a valid one to look at this exact 2220 02:13:41,790 --> 02:13:45,960 She's exactly what she said. She said look many times. This 2221 02:13:45,960 --> 02:13:50,490 happened at Fox with Roger Ailes. Independent outside 2222 02:13:50,730 --> 02:13:54,870 investigation happened over at NPR in the me to movement 2223 02:13:54,870 --> 02:13:58,230 independent outside investigation happened at PBS 2224 02:13:58,500 --> 02:14:02,490 independent, although rigged, outside investigation to get rid 2225 02:14:02,490 --> 02:14:09,870 of Tavis Smiley, CBS, Les Moonves Charlie, Charlie, it's 2226 02:14:09,870 --> 02:14:16,200 in your DNA. Rose, Charlie Rose, external investigation, NBC, 2227 02:14:16,830 --> 02:14:20,970 internal investigation, nothing to see here. It's all good. 2228 02:14:21,240 --> 02:14:25,560 These women are going to be very, very, very upset. When it 2229 02:14:25,560 --> 02:14:31,770 turns out that they knew this to NBC News knew about this, the 2230 02:14:31,770 --> 02:14:35,370 boss's knew about it. They were covering up for Harvey Weinstein 2231 02:14:35,370 --> 02:14:37,650 because they didn't want the lid to blow off of it, which of 2232 02:14:37,650 --> 02:14:42,780 course was to protect their star anchor Matt Lauer, NBC, not only 2233 02:14:42,780 --> 02:14:45,630 should they be ashamed of themselves, they should be they 2234 02:14:45,630 --> 02:14:49,920 should start with their own investigation from outside the 2235 02:14:49,920 --> 02:14:53,640 company have an independent person come in and then really 2236 02:14:53,640 --> 02:14:57,210 say okay, nothing to see here. I think this is just the tip of 2237 02:14:57,210 --> 02:15:00,510 the iceberg and it is much worse and I bet these were Men were 2238 02:15:00,510 --> 02:15:02,940 harassed by Matt Lauer or others as well. 2239 02:15:02,970 --> 02:15:05,220 John C. Dvorak: I'm sure they were but this brings us to the 2240 02:15:05,220 --> 02:15:07,260 credit to Chris Hayes rant. 2241 02:15:07,590 --> 02:15:08,430 Adam Curry: Oh, brother, you 2242 02:15:08,430 --> 02:15:11,730 John C. Dvorak: got one of those two beautiful well here, Chris 2243 02:15:11,730 --> 02:15:16,980 Hayes. This is I think, a career killer, or should be, yeah. But 2244 02:15:16,980 --> 02:15:21,660 he Chris Hayes decides that he's going to chime in on this. And 2245 02:15:21,870 --> 02:15:25,020 first of all, he may be thinks he can get away with like, 2246 02:15:25,110 --> 02:15:28,080 somehow, he blames Trump a little bit, he comes up with 2247 02:15:28,080 --> 02:15:32,550 some bullshit theme. But then he goes into it. He blames NBC for 2248 02:15:32,550 --> 02:15:35,580 this cover up because I guess he was good pals with Ronan. 2249 02:15:35,700 --> 02:15:37,860 Unknown: After a single tweet in support of the Hong Kong 2250 02:15:37,860 --> 02:15:41,550 protesters by Houston Rockets executive the NBA has scrambled 2251 02:15:41,550 --> 02:15:44,040 to lock down any other signs of criticism of the Chinese 2252 02:15:44,040 --> 02:15:47,340 government, hoping to preserve access to an extremely lucrative 2253 02:15:47,340 --> 02:15:50,760 and growing market for the sport. Now, of course, this kind 2254 02:15:50,760 --> 02:15:53,490 of shying away from confrontation choosing the path 2255 02:15:53,490 --> 02:15:56,910 of least resistance, quite familiar in the news, because 2256 02:15:56,910 --> 02:16:00,480 it's what so many Republican members of Congress do every day 2257 02:16:00,510 --> 02:16:03,510 when confronted with the bile bigotry and rank corruption, 2258 02:16:03,540 --> 02:16:07,080 abuse of power for the man who is the head of their party. But 2259 02:16:07,080 --> 02:16:09,900 it's important to note that it is not limited to them. In fact, 2260 02:16:09,900 --> 02:16:12,930 the insidious destructive force of the path of least resistance 2261 02:16:13,170 --> 02:16:17,340 is everywhere you look back, I feel the tug of it myself as my 2262 02:16:17,340 --> 02:16:20,280 own news organisation is embroiled in a very public 2263 02:16:20,280 --> 02:16:24,030 controversy over its conduct. As you've probably seen, in his new 2264 02:16:24,030 --> 02:16:27,540 book, catch and kill my former colleague Ronan Farrow, contends 2265 02:16:27,540 --> 02:16:30,150 that NBC News slow walked and then ultimately killed his 2266 02:16:30,150 --> 02:16:33,390 reporting on Harvey Weinstein sexual harassment and assault 2267 02:16:33,540 --> 02:16:35,580 because it was intimidated by Weinstein and didn't want to 2268 02:16:35,580 --> 02:16:39,780 cross him. most distressing Lee Farrell suggests NBC News was 2269 02:16:39,780 --> 02:16:42,450 worried about the allegations of sexual assault and harassment 2270 02:16:42,450 --> 02:16:45,450 against Matt Lauer coming out as a result of reporting on 2271 02:16:45,450 --> 02:16:49,050 Weinstein and desperately wanted to avoid that. In Pharaoh's 2272 02:16:49,050 --> 02:16:51,660 view. He was unable to break through what was effectively a 2273 02:16:51,660 --> 02:16:56,340 conspiracy of silence from NBC News management. Now, NBC News 2274 02:16:57,360 --> 02:16:59,190 Adam Curry: account the president sorry say what? 2275 02:16:59,790 --> 02:17:01,950 John C. Dvorak: smacks his lips every time he goes through a new 2276 02:17:01,950 --> 02:17:02,850 paragraph. 2277 02:17:04,380 --> 02:17:07,440 Adam Curry: It is annoying, and Pharaohs but not the only thing 2278 02:17:07,440 --> 02:17:12,030 annoying. Oh, shoot. I'm sorry about that. Somehow the clip 2279 02:17:12,030 --> 02:17:12,630 dumped out. 2280 02:17:13,320 --> 02:17:14,970 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I'm just not 2281 02:17:14,969 --> 02:17:18,839 Unknown: the least resistance is everywhere you look back. I feel 2282 02:17:18,839 --> 02:17:22,139 the tug of it myself as my own news organisation is embroiled 2283 02:17:22,289 --> 02:17:25,649 in a very public controversy over its conduct. As you've 2284 02:17:25,649 --> 02:17:28,439 probably seen, in his new book, catch and kill my former 2285 02:17:28,439 --> 02:17:32,009 colleague Ronan Farrow, contends that NBC News slow walked and 2286 02:17:32,009 --> 02:17:34,439 then ultimately killed his reporting on Harvey Weinstein 2287 02:17:34,439 --> 02:17:37,529 sexual harassment and assault because it was intimidated by 2288 02:17:37,529 --> 02:17:40,529 Weinstein and didn't want to cross him. Most distressingly, 2289 02:17:40,529 --> 02:17:44,219 Farrell suggests NBC News was worried about the allegations of 2290 02:17:44,219 --> 02:17:47,219 sexual assault and harassment against Matt Lauer coming out as 2291 02:17:47,219 --> 02:17:50,069 a result of reporting on Weinstein and desperately wanted 2292 02:17:50,069 --> 02:17:53,219 to avoid that, in Pharaoh's view, he was unable to break 2293 02:17:53,219 --> 02:17:56,819 through what was effectively a conspiracy of silence from NBC 2294 02:17:56,819 --> 02:18:00,629 News management. Now, NBC News vigorously denies this account. 2295 02:18:00,659 --> 02:18:04,169 The president of NBC News no Oppenheim called Farrell's book 2296 02:18:04,169 --> 02:18:07,019 a conspiracy theory and a memo sent out today, citing an 2297 02:18:07,019 --> 02:18:10,559 internal NBC investigation that concluded that the extremely 2298 02:18:10,559 --> 02:18:13,499 upsetting allegations against Lauer were not known internally 2299 02:18:13,499 --> 02:18:17,129 at NBC, and the scene is called any suggestion it did no false 2300 02:18:17,129 --> 02:18:20,039 and offensive. And Oppenheim and others have also maintained 2301 02:18:20,039 --> 02:18:22,829 since Pharaoh's departure two years ago, the Weinstein story 2302 02:18:22,829 --> 02:18:25,619 was never broadcast because it lacks efficient on the record 2303 02:18:25,619 --> 02:18:28,589 sourcing, even after NBC supported Pharaohs assignment 2304 02:18:28,589 --> 02:18:32,759 for seven months. One thing though, is indisputable. Ronan 2305 02:18:32,759 --> 02:18:35,399 Farrow walked out of NBC News after working on the Weinstein 2306 02:18:35,399 --> 02:18:38,369 story and within two months, published an incredible article, 2307 02:18:38,399 --> 02:18:41,849 The New Yorker that not only won a Pulitzer, but helped trigger a 2308 02:18:41,849 --> 02:18:45,239 massive social and cultural reckoning that continues to this 2309 02:18:45,239 --> 02:18:48,869 day. It is the kind of journalism that you want to do 2310 02:18:48,869 --> 02:18:51,449 as a journalist, that everyone who works in this business 2311 02:18:51,479 --> 02:18:55,199 should want to facilitate. Of course, there's a reason it took 2312 02:18:55,199 --> 02:18:58,379 so long for the true story about Weinstein to be told, for the 2313 02:18:58,379 --> 02:19:01,409 many allegations of him to stay locked in a vault. And that's 2314 02:19:01,409 --> 02:19:04,049 because time and again, the path of least resistance for those 2315 02:19:04,049 --> 02:19:07,199 with power was to not cross Weinstein or his army of friends 2316 02:19:07,199 --> 02:19:11,039 and lawyers. Same goes for the many, many, many other powerful 2317 02:19:11,039 --> 02:19:14,459 predators that we've come to know about. The path of least 2318 02:19:14,459 --> 02:19:17,819 resistance is always there. beckoning seductively with an 2319 02:19:17,819 --> 02:19:20,969 entirely plausible cover story, you've got bigger fish to fry, 2320 02:19:21,119 --> 02:19:24,179 this is the hill to die on, the story isn't ready. But of 2321 02:19:24,179 --> 02:19:27,719 course, the very ease of that path that makes it the enemy, 2322 02:19:27,809 --> 02:19:31,199 the kind of work that we as journalists are supposed to do. 2323 02:19:35,219 --> 02:19:35,969 Adam Curry: Sounds like 2324 02:19:36,150 --> 02:19:38,130 John C. Dvorak: this thing is chickened out with this cult 2325 02:19:38,130 --> 02:19:43,230 with this path of least resistance thesis. But it's 2326 02:19:43,230 --> 02:19:47,640 still pretty, pretty rude if I was the head of news at the 2327 02:19:47,640 --> 02:19:51,390 company and if you assume they are the douchebags they are 2328 02:19:51,390 --> 02:19:54,330 which is obvious. I'd be very 2329 02:19:54,390 --> 02:19:55,950 Adam Curry: close. No, 2330 02:19:55,980 --> 02:19:59,160 John C. Dvorak: I disagree. You think it was a setup? So yeah, 2331 02:19:59,670 --> 02:20:03,390 look Oh yeah, a weak weak last Whopper real 2332 02:20:03,390 --> 02:20:06,270 Adam Curry: but that's why you know hey, we've got to do 2333 02:20:06,270 --> 02:20:09,720 something official. We've got it we've got to show that we're 2334 02:20:09,720 --> 02:20:13,500 that we have intact we have Tegrity we got to show we got 2335 02:20:13,500 --> 02:20:17,640 Tegrity How do we do that? Well, let's not use Rachel. We don't 2336 02:20:17,640 --> 02:20:20,280 want to brush merch her with any of this. No, she has to stay 2337 02:20:20,280 --> 02:20:23,670 pristine. She's our star can't do that. Okay. How about the 2338 02:20:23,670 --> 02:20:26,070 other lesbian? Yeah, well give it to him. No one cares about 2339 02:20:26,070 --> 02:20:26,940 him. Let him do it. 2340 02:20:28,470 --> 02:20:32,850 Do they didn't put this on prime time. Chris Hayes is not prime 2341 02:20:32,850 --> 02:20:34,560 time. Chris Hayes. 2342 02:20:34,560 --> 02:20:36,390 John C. Dvorak: I'm gonna dispute the possibility that 2343 02:20:36,390 --> 02:20:40,740 that thinking existed. I just. I'm hoping it didn't. 2344 02:20:41,940 --> 02:20:44,490 Adam Curry: Well, I'm hoping that a lot more comes out the 2345 02:20:44,490 --> 02:20:50,160 NBC is it? It's no secret. What goes on in media companies. 2346 02:20:50,160 --> 02:20:52,680 You've worked in them? I've worked in them. But what was 2347 02:20:52,680 --> 02:20:57,510 going on at NBC? With management on top of all this knowing about 2348 02:20:57,510 --> 02:21:00,780 it? That's that's really pretty inexcusable. 2349 02:21:02,070 --> 02:21:03,450 And heads will roll. 2350 02:21:05,160 --> 02:21:07,200 Yeah, yeah, you're right. Probably not. 2351 02:21:07,980 --> 02:21:10,740 Unknown: I'm gonna show my school by donation to no agenda. 2352 02:21:10,830 --> 02:21:13,590 Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be 2353 02:21:13,590 --> 02:21:13,950 fun. 2354 02:21:21,090 --> 02:21:24,270 John C. Dvorak: We do have a few people to shake Shanks for show. 2355 02:21:24,660 --> 02:21:26,730 Adam Curry: I'm going to show thank you for your donation. Let 2356 02:21:26,730 --> 02:21:27,390 me shake your 2357 02:21:28,110 --> 02:21:29,310 John C. Dvorak: lemonade into 2358 02:21:31,860 --> 02:21:34,080 Adam Curry: it. Thank you. That's just that's just 2359 02:21:34,080 --> 02:21:34,560 Showtime. 2360 02:21:34,560 --> 02:21:35,550 John C. Dvorak: Thank you very much. 2361 02:21:35,550 --> 02:21:39,180 Adam Curry: Thank you very much. Gary Freudian slip, the truth 2362 02:21:39,180 --> 02:21:40,110 wants to come out. 2363 02:21:43,650 --> 02:21:45,660 John C. Dvorak: Gary Alexander's at the top of the list he's 2364 02:21:45,720 --> 02:21:49,770 from. He's in Dubai Arab Emirates as we speak. Oh, nice. 2365 02:21:50,460 --> 02:21:57,210 $133.33 Gary Ferris for Fars. Fars or Ferris I think it's 2366 02:21:57,210 --> 02:22:02,040 Ferris $112.12 and Spring Valley California. is pronounced 2367 02:22:02,040 --> 02:22:05,220 Ferris. Okay, go in he needs a de douchey 2368 02:22:07,560 --> 02:22:09,390 Unknown: youth been de deuced 2369 02:22:12,420 --> 02:22:14,670 John C. Dvorak: lavender blossoms the lavender blossoms 2370 02:22:14,670 --> 02:22:15,090 dots. 2371 02:22:15,270 --> 02:22:17,820 Adam Curry: Oh, it is how lavender blossom. blossoms.org. 2372 02:22:17,820 --> 02:22:18,240 Yes. 2373 02:22:19,140 --> 02:22:23,250 John C. Dvorak: In Northville Michigan. sent us $111.11 This 2374 02:22:23,250 --> 02:22:25,740 is where you want to get all your CBD products. That's right. 2375 02:22:25,740 --> 02:22:32,130 Thank you Kyle. Lavender blossoms.org Joseph heroin 2376 02:22:32,130 --> 02:22:39,420 MOYOCK North Carolina 100 J Canyon in Moray field, Australia 2377 02:22:39,449 --> 02:22:42,599 Adam Curry: and he has a notes in the morning crackpot and 2378 02:22:42,599 --> 02:22:47,459 buzzkill with this donation of 100 USD, which is 10,000 in 2379 02:22:47,459 --> 02:22:52,889 Aussie dollar ruse. Actually. $154.47 Can you believe that? 2380 02:22:53,369 --> 02:22:57,779 Yeah. 150 Okay. This will make me a night of the best podcast 2381 02:22:57,779 --> 02:23:00,449 in the universe accounting below. I'd like to be known as 2382 02:23:00,449 --> 02:23:07,049 Sir Jake. The it Bogan says I'm a dude named Ben and enjoy. Oh, 2383 02:23:07,079 --> 02:23:08,699 got cut off. Do you have anything else there? 2384 02:23:09,240 --> 02:23:11,640 John C. Dvorak: No. And I'm gonna do name Ben and enjoy. 2385 02:23:12,390 --> 02:23:13,350 What it says, 2386 02:23:13,590 --> 02:23:15,780 Adam Curry: oh, man, do you think he sent more? And let me 2387 02:23:15,780 --> 02:23:18,180 just see Kenyan let me see if I got anything 2388 02:23:19,620 --> 02:23:21,210 Unknown: from him in the email. 2389 02:23:23,700 --> 02:23:25,650 John C. Dvorak: They do have his title there as Yeah, no, 2390 02:23:25,650 --> 02:23:28,170 Adam Curry: I got his I got his title. But I know I don't see 2391 02:23:28,170 --> 02:23:32,130 any email from so maybe that was just it. Let me read. I'm a dude 2392 02:23:32,130 --> 02:23:36,840 named Ben and enjoy. Well, thank you, Jake Kirby. And we'll be 2393 02:23:36,840 --> 02:23:39,450 looking forward to bringing you up to the roundtable in just 2394 02:23:39,450 --> 02:23:40,380 minutes from now. 2395 02:23:43,170 --> 02:23:45,390 John C. Dvorak: Laura Wilson is on the list with $100 and she's 2396 02:23:45,390 --> 02:23:50,310 got a birthday call for Tim. And I'll be coming up Brandon foster 2397 02:23:50,310 --> 02:23:58,230 for 75 gust Vaughn poeple. Boost boost. Boost Vaughn. poeple in 2398 02:23:58,230 --> 02:23:59,670 Norway 75. 2399 02:23:59,730 --> 02:24:01,140 Adam Curry: Also, birthday she's 2400 02:24:01,140 --> 02:24:03,450 John C. Dvorak: got a birthday shout out there's another name I 2401 02:24:03,450 --> 02:24:04,200 can't pronounce. Oh, 2402 02:24:04,200 --> 02:24:07,440 Adam Curry: kiss off. That's all kiss alphas sounds like a 2403 02:24:07,440 --> 02:24:12,240 Norwegian name. Yeah, sure is first human resource. I guess 2404 02:24:12,240 --> 02:24:15,540 his first trip around the sun October 14. Maybe he was just 2405 02:24:15,540 --> 02:24:18,900 born you just based in New human resource. Yay. 2406 02:24:20,910 --> 02:24:24,600 John C. Dvorak: Jamie Christian sons $60.23. Jason. 2407 02:24:25,530 --> 02:24:28,950 Bomb really voted calm. 2408 02:24:30,000 --> 02:24:33,570 It says tip balm and then I look over system tip comb. And 2409 02:24:33,600 --> 02:24:36,750 Adam Curry: that's that's Eric the shill having fun with us. 2410 02:24:37,290 --> 02:24:40,650 Good. Or the truth wants to come out with Eric 2411 02:24:42,150 --> 02:24:48,210 John C. Dvorak: 3555 Cape Elizabeth main. Dean Roker 5510 2412 02:24:48,750 --> 02:24:56,250 Matthew Grice, $50.50. And then we which is also $73 Australian 2413 02:24:58,230 --> 02:25:01,410 which is 7373 cents. Less Australian ham. 2414 02:25:01,470 --> 02:25:06,450 Adam Curry: That's right. Oh, that's v k three Fng 73k A five 2415 02:25:06,450 --> 02:25:07,050 ACC. 2416 02:25:07,740 --> 02:25:10,350 John C. Dvorak: John holler in Missoula, Montana comes in with 2417 02:25:10,350 --> 02:25:13,320 50 and the following donors are all $50 donors and not a big 2418 02:25:13,320 --> 02:25:17,310 list of anybody today. Hopefully you guys can bring up the slack 2419 02:25:17,550 --> 02:25:21,540 for the Sunday show. Michael burr let you know destin 2420 02:25:21,540 --> 02:25:24,960 Florida, Keith Yarborough. 50 bucks from Austin, Texas, a 2421 02:25:24,960 --> 02:25:28,470 friend of yours down the street. Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park, 2422 02:25:28,470 --> 02:25:33,000 Alberta. He's been a Sir Chris Lewinsky for years. Yes. David 2423 02:25:33,000 --> 02:25:36,510 Timmons and Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. It's got some sort of 2424 02:25:36,780 --> 02:25:40,110 birthday thing and it Oh, it is going to Cassidy's knighthood. 2425 02:25:40,260 --> 02:25:42,420 Adam Curry: Let's see this is for Cassidy Eastwood's 2426 02:25:42,420 --> 02:25:45,540 knighthood for a birthday of donated $50 towards Cassidy's 2427 02:25:45,540 --> 02:25:51,600 donation. Total 1014 19, which is also her birthday. Okay. She 2428 02:25:51,600 --> 02:25:54,360 is all about hitting people in the mouth as I often have 2429 02:25:54,360 --> 02:25:57,510 conversations with her about jumping others and hitting them 2430 02:25:57,510 --> 02:26:00,360 in the mouth. She's a great planner speaking which she also 2431 02:26:00,360 --> 02:26:02,700 has been pretty active in Oklahoma City meetups as well, 2432 02:26:02,700 --> 02:26:06,750 which is awesome. Anyway, I feel like my $50 isn't enough and I 2433 02:26:06,750 --> 02:26:09,930 am poor. So Could someone maybe help out and get this no agenda 2434 02:26:09,960 --> 02:26:13,380 eight closer to Dame hood since my $50, along with her previous 2435 02:26:13,380 --> 02:26:18,240 donations, puts her at 533 33 She is a great person has a very 2436 02:26:18,240 --> 02:26:21,120 good sized amygdala. That's a nice way of saying something 2437 02:26:21,120 --> 02:26:24,810 about a woman isn't it? She's got a nice sized amygdala and 2438 02:26:24,810 --> 02:26:27,810 deserves the seat at the table more than myself and many 2439 02:26:27,810 --> 02:26:31,440 others. If nothing else, please send her a very happy birthday. 2440 02:26:31,440 --> 02:26:33,990 I love the dame drive. It's nice. We're getting the days. 2441 02:26:34,680 --> 02:26:37,200 Dame drive it is thank you David very nice of you. 2442 02:26:38,610 --> 02:26:41,580 Unknown: Game Drive. Game Drive. 2443 02:26:45,090 --> 02:26:47,400 John C. Dvorak: At Amaury continues was middle in 2444 02:26:47,400 --> 02:26:54,180 Middleton Marriott Maryland 50 John camp in Oklahoma, Joe do 2445 02:26:54,180 --> 02:26:59,610 ruin which I'm sure is a night sir Joe. Joel Joel in Savannah, 2446 02:26:59,610 --> 02:27:05,880 Georgia Savannah GA Robert dry cousin in Oshkosh bogash 2447 02:27:05,880 --> 02:27:12,420 Wisconsin 50 Gerald Preston 50 David Timmons in Oklahoma City 2448 02:27:12,420 --> 02:27:17,160 and other Oklahoma City person well, wait a minute, just get on 2449 02:27:17,160 --> 02:27:18,690 here. unknown reason? 2450 02:27:18,720 --> 02:27:21,660 Adam Curry: Oh, no. I guess that was his 50 for himself and 50 2451 02:27:21,660 --> 02:27:24,990 for Cassie. Well, then, yeah. Yeah, good enough. 2452 02:27:26,010 --> 02:27:30,690 John C. Dvorak: And also Scott lavender. Another lavender guy, 2453 02:27:31,560 --> 02:27:35,100 Montgomery, Texas, he's done by you. And last but not least, 2454 02:27:35,130 --> 02:27:38,970 Brad Taylor and Duvall, Washington. Want to thank all 2455 02:27:38,970 --> 02:27:43,530 these folks for supporting the show and producing show 1181 And 2456 02:27:43,530 --> 02:27:45,690 we get another show coming up on Sunday. Don't forget us. 2457 02:27:45,840 --> 02:27:48,330 Adam Curry: Yeah. Yeah. Well, instead of that, I'd say 2458 02:27:48,330 --> 02:27:53,130 remember us that might stick a little longer. But yes, please 2459 02:27:53,130 --> 02:27:55,620 do and thank you to the people who supported us today 2460 02:27:55,620 --> 02:27:59,280 shortlist. Luckily, we had a great executive producer ship 2461 02:27:59,280 --> 02:28:03,750 come in Insta Dame Insta night. We do hope that you consider our 2462 02:28:03,750 --> 02:28:06,870 value for value proposition. You listen to us for a couple hours. 2463 02:28:07,140 --> 02:28:09,870 Did you get anything out of it? What would you spend your time 2464 02:28:09,870 --> 02:28:12,180 on? What would that have cost? What is your time worth to you? 2465 02:28:12,240 --> 02:28:15,270 That's all we ask for some, it's a couple pennies for some it's a 2466 02:28:15,270 --> 02:28:18,810 couple dollars for some it's 10 Whatever it is, that's what we 2467 02:28:18,810 --> 02:28:22,770 want you to do in determining the value. It's our value for 2468 02:28:22,770 --> 02:28:23,670 value system. 2469 02:28:25,110 --> 02:28:31,050 You can find out more at borak.org/yes. Some 2470 02:28:31,080 --> 02:28:33,750 cameras are requested in our Dane drive 2471 02:28:33,780 --> 02:28:37,200 Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. 2472 02:28:37,290 --> 02:28:42,330 Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma 2473 02:28:44,430 --> 02:28:45,390 is nothing like? 2474 02:29:07,410 --> 02:29:13,140 Adam Curry: Yes, today being the 17th of October 2019. We do have 2475 02:29:13,140 --> 02:29:16,920 a few people on the birthday list to congratulate Laura 2476 02:29:16,920 --> 02:29:19,980 Wilson says Happy Birthday to Tim White in Lee's Summit, 2477 02:29:19,980 --> 02:29:25,770 Missouri he turned 50 on the 14th of October. This van puffle 2478 02:29:26,250 --> 02:29:29,400 says Happy Birthday to OutKast alphas also celebrated on the 2479 02:29:29,400 --> 02:29:33,090 14th and David Timmons says Happy Birthday to Cassidy 2480 02:29:33,090 --> 02:29:35,790 eastward of Oklahoma City. We say happy birthday from 2481 02:29:35,790 --> 02:29:43,980 everybody here the best podcast in the universe. Know what? It's 2482 02:29:43,980 --> 02:29:50,460 like a pot Yes, on the meetup list, we're gonna run through it 2483 02:29:50,460 --> 02:29:54,000 real quick. We've got quite a lot we have this coming 2484 02:29:54,000 --> 02:29:57,990 Saturday, Santa and Toby and Tobio San Antonio October meetup 2485 02:29:57,990 --> 02:30:03,030 530. That'll be Andrew white organising that also on the 19th 2486 02:30:03,030 --> 02:30:05,880 Santa Fe New Mexico at two o'clock with Dame Heather 2487 02:30:05,910 --> 02:30:09,750 Heather of the Lost Boys. She says meet at the baker room. 2488 02:30:10,650 --> 02:30:15,570 Saturday Atlanta, Georgia local 4043 33 Eastern Daylight Time 2489 02:30:15,570 --> 02:30:20,910 Hudson grill, Alicia Carr noose. Cairo noose Corinthos is your 2490 02:30:20,910 --> 02:30:25,110 host Saturday Orlando's seven o'clock Eastern Daylight Time 2491 02:30:25,110 --> 02:30:28,050 rock and brews on South Saramonic Boulevard just north 2492 02:30:28,050 --> 02:30:30,990 of Orlando International Airport Brandon ease your contact. 2493 02:30:30,990 --> 02:30:35,880 They're brand new to the list. For the 20th of November, 2494 02:30:35,880 --> 02:30:40,530 Michigan local one gunpowder get together. Number three, and 2495 02:30:40,530 --> 02:30:43,650 that'll be at 1pm Eastern Daylight Time gunpowder get 2496 02:30:43,650 --> 02:30:47,790 together the only meet at no agenda meet up where triggering 2497 02:30:47,790 --> 02:30:52,500 is mandatory. I guess the going shooting night is very nice. 2498 02:30:52,980 --> 02:30:55,590 That'll be at the Linden Sportsman's club and Linden 2499 02:30:55,680 --> 02:31:00,300 refund douchebag Pat will be your host the 20th Sunday. Mason 2500 02:31:00,300 --> 02:31:03,420 Dixon meet up Louisville, Kentucky High Noon upstairs 2501 02:31:03,420 --> 02:31:06,540 space at Monique beer company sir mittens of fall city 2502 02:31:06,540 --> 02:31:09,630 organising that Nashville Tennessee on the 24th this is 2503 02:31:09,630 --> 02:31:14,040 the Tennessee Hallo meet up six o'clock at Moss tacos rich be 2504 02:31:14,040 --> 02:31:18,150 organising for you. Friday the 25th Oregon local 33 Portland 2505 02:31:18,150 --> 02:31:22,740 number four 630 Pacific Daylight Time Ficklin brewery and 2506 02:31:22,740 --> 02:31:26,610 Smokehouse Tim your executive producer from Episode 962 Is 2507 02:31:26,610 --> 02:31:30,720 your host on the 25th as well Charlotte North Carolina 730 2508 02:31:30,720 --> 02:31:34,800 Sycamore brewing bio camera and hosting for you the 26th 2509 02:31:35,310 --> 02:31:42,690 Nashville Tennessee 730 now says Am I'm going to think that pm we 2510 02:31:42,720 --> 02:31:45,750 can check in on no agenda meetups.com bro no it is it's a 2511 02:31:45,750 --> 02:31:48,330 am breakfast before politican Ah, that's what that's where we 2512 02:31:48,330 --> 02:31:51,690 have two meetups in Nashville close together. So political con 2513 02:31:51,690 --> 02:31:56,130 2019 is in Nashville. They're doing a breakfast meetup 730 at 2514 02:31:56,130 --> 02:32:01,200 the Sun diner. Anthony is your host, Colorado Springs local 719 2515 02:32:01,200 --> 02:32:05,010 meet up at the Phantom Canyon Brewing Company Andrew Jones am 2516 02:32:05,010 --> 02:32:08,880 Andrew Jones is organising for you. And also a new entry for 2517 02:32:08,880 --> 02:32:16,260 Sunday the 27th no agenda local one brunch at Plymouth Plymouth, 2518 02:32:17,460 --> 02:32:21,870 Michigan 11am Stella's sidetrack, formerly known as 2519 02:32:21,870 --> 02:32:25,380 station 885. Sir Timothy of the no fix title Baron of the Upper 2520 02:32:25,380 --> 02:32:30,270 Peninsula Peninsula of Michigan is your host for that. Please go 2521 02:32:30,270 --> 02:32:33,360 to no agenda meetups.com to learn all about the meetups that 2522 02:32:33,360 --> 02:32:36,330 you just heard about, or if you'd like to organise your own 2523 02:32:36,330 --> 02:32:42,480 and I wanted to say hi to fab and the nice thing was fab and 2524 02:32:42,480 --> 02:32:45,600 one other person who showed up at the Hamburg douchebags meet 2525 02:32:45,600 --> 02:32:48,660 up there was at the barley and malt in the Hamburg's old 2526 02:32:48,660 --> 02:32:51,390 harbour district, due to the meet up being planned on short 2527 02:32:51,390 --> 02:32:53,490 notice and not having been announced on the show probably 2528 02:32:53,490 --> 02:32:57,000 because of short notice. Only myself and douchebag Brigadier 2529 02:32:57,000 --> 02:32:59,880 Bradshaw were in attendance. Aside from the small number of 2530 02:32:59,880 --> 02:33:02,100 people present we feel it was a very successful meet up with 2531 02:33:02,100 --> 02:33:04,890 hours of discussion about smartphones, zombies, douchebag, 2532 02:33:04,890 --> 02:33:08,640 millennials, grumpy server admins, and the vagaries of NTP 2533 02:33:08,640 --> 02:33:12,810 configs. How could you not want to go to one of these meetups? 2534 02:33:12,810 --> 02:33:16,560 This is where you want to be? No agenda meetups.com Thank you for 2535 02:33:16,560 --> 02:33:20,400 everybody who organises who attends. And thanks for Mimi for 2536 02:33:20,400 --> 02:33:23,520 putting the whole good list together. And that's it for our 2537 02:33:23,520 --> 02:33:28,320 meetups. Now we do have a see we've got two nice things one 2538 02:33:28,320 --> 02:33:31,890 Daming so I need the blade from you. Mr. Devore played a big 2539 02:33:31,890 --> 02:33:37,440 break up on the podium Jacob Hopper, Korey Stringer, and Jake 2540 02:33:37,440 --> 02:33:41,550 Kenyon all three of you have reached that pinnacle. It is the 2541 02:33:41,550 --> 02:33:44,010 round table the no agenda Knights and Dames. This is due 2542 02:33:44,010 --> 02:33:46,950 to your contribution to the show in the amount of $1,000 or more 2543 02:33:46,950 --> 02:33:50,610 and I'm very proud to pronounce the K v. Sir Jacob guardian of 2544 02:33:50,610 --> 02:33:55,680 the limber coast, Dame Corey Lady of 10 Boehm and Sir Jake 2545 02:33:55,680 --> 02:33:59,910 the it Bogan for you. We have the requisite nourishment at the 2546 02:33:59,910 --> 02:34:03,030 roundtable of hookers and blow rent boys and Chardonnay blowed 2547 02:34:03,030 --> 02:34:07,890 the villages and stumbled Vitami vapes and vodka vodka and 2548 02:34:07,890 --> 02:34:11,340 vanilla Parliament's and pale ale organic macaroni and 2549 02:34:11,340 --> 02:34:14,340 plasticizers ginger ale and durables and of course mutton in 2550 02:34:14,340 --> 02:34:14,760 me 2551 02:34:17,520 --> 02:34:18,840 I love that cough button 2552 02:34:21,150 --> 02:34:22,680 you can go to no agenda nation 2553 02:34:24,240 --> 02:34:25,050 it's just dry 2554 02:34:25,920 --> 02:34:27,450 John C. Dvorak: I'm sorry I need some water yeah 2555 02:34:27,450 --> 02:34:32,130 Adam Curry: I do it's I tried to cover it up but I'm gonna go got 2556 02:34:32,130 --> 02:34:32,940 to know 2557 02:34:35,040 --> 02:34:40,500 yes, go to no agenda nation.com/rings and welcome to 2558 02:34:40,500 --> 02:34:45,390 the roundtable a brand new Dame as the dame Dr. Continues more 2559 02:34:45,390 --> 02:34:49,080 dame's more of the time right here on your no agenda show 2560 02:34:49,080 --> 02:34:49,350 which 2561 02:34:52,530 --> 02:34:55,320 lets you Nice. That's your cue to pick it up. Yeah, 2562 02:34:55,350 --> 02:34:57,870 John C. Dvorak: well, I'm picking it off. So while you're 2563 02:34:57,870 --> 02:35:00,660 coughing Yes, I got a couple more clips. To get out of here 2564 02:35:00,660 --> 02:35:05,070 with Okay, first of all get back to American news. The big 2565 02:35:05,070 --> 02:35:10,170 scandal, of course, was this video that was shown to Five 2566 02:35:10,170 --> 02:35:14,370 Guys in a closet. And I guess one of the guys was triggered by 2567 02:35:14,370 --> 02:35:15,060 it. I don't 2568 02:35:15,060 --> 02:35:18,150 Adam Curry: know anything about this story. What video this is 2569 02:35:18,150 --> 02:35:19,560 news to me. Oh, 2570 02:35:19,560 --> 02:35:24,120 John C. Dvorak: there was a you liked the movie? Kingsman. I, 2571 02:35:24,300 --> 02:35:27,630 oh, yes, yeah, yeah, like the one enters your church scene. 2572 02:35:27,630 --> 02:35:30,420 This is actually the video I think it was produced and put 2573 02:35:30,450 --> 02:35:31,230 out on there. 2574 02:35:31,980 --> 02:35:33,780 Adam Curry: I've seen this vid. Now I know what video you're 2575 02:35:33,780 --> 02:35:37,680 talking about. Yeah, it's been around. It's not new. So that so 2576 02:35:37,680 --> 02:35:40,650 they took the scene, the church scene from the King's Men, where 2577 02:35:40,650 --> 02:35:43,230 a lot of people got get killed in horrific ways. And they 2578 02:35:43,230 --> 02:35:48,480 posted mainstream guy, mainstream media logos on the 2579 02:35:48,480 --> 02:35:49,380 victims. Yes, 2580 02:35:49,470 --> 02:35:53,370 John C. Dvorak: yeah. And a couple of politicians. It's an 2581 02:35:53,370 --> 02:35:56,100 outrage scandal. They don't know what to do with but grounds for 2582 02:35:56,100 --> 02:35:59,610 impeachment to ice, of course. And we do have one of the local 2583 02:35:59,610 --> 02:36:03,120 news stations that covered it for a minute and a 46 is 2584 02:36:03,120 --> 02:36:06,270 actually a long report. Wow. And then you can't really show much 2585 02:36:06,270 --> 02:36:10,410 of the video because it's pretty violent. Yes, too harsh on the 2586 02:36:10,410 --> 02:36:13,230 eyeballs. But here's the report on the violent video show you 2587 02:36:13,230 --> 02:36:14,040 all keep up 2588 02:36:14,310 --> 02:36:16,410 Unknown: and now on to a shocking, violent and quite 2589 02:36:16,410 --> 02:36:19,230 frankly offensive video surfacing in the New York Times 2590 02:36:19,230 --> 02:36:21,990 report. They say this video depicting the president shooting 2591 02:36:21,990 --> 02:36:25,290 and stabbing opponents and media outlets was shown at Trump 2592 02:36:25,290 --> 02:36:26,520 throughout last week. 2593 02:36:26,730 --> 02:36:29,640 The president's son Donald Trump, Jr. was at that event and 2594 02:36:29,640 --> 02:36:30,870 now we're hearing from him. 2595 02:36:30,960 --> 02:36:33,840 Let's get right to low times. Amy Viteri in the newsroom with 2596 02:36:33,840 --> 02:36:36,780 that video that's receiving wide condemnation on social media 2597 02:36:36,810 --> 02:36:37,200 Amy, 2598 02:36:37,260 --> 02:36:40,380 but Louis the video which was reportedly not shown in the main 2599 02:36:40,380 --> 02:36:43,410 ballroom spoofs the scene from a movie and shows the president 2600 02:36:43,410 --> 02:36:46,650 shooting his critics and the press. Now here is the video 2601 02:36:46,650 --> 02:36:49,800 that is being shared on social media. It is a doctored version 2602 02:36:49,800 --> 02:36:52,770 of a scene from the movie Kingsman, starring Colin Firth. 2603 02:36:53,010 --> 02:36:55,800 The President space is superimposed over Firth's 2604 02:36:55,800 --> 02:36:59,970 character as he shoots and stabs those with superimposed media 2605 02:36:59,970 --> 02:37:02,850 outlet logos and some Democratic members of Congress such as 2606 02:37:02,850 --> 02:37:05,910 Maxine Waters, who you saw there a couple moments ago. At one 2607 02:37:05,910 --> 02:37:09,000 point, the late Senator John McCain is depicted being 2608 02:37:09,000 --> 02:37:12,330 stabbed. Now the White House Correspondents Association, also 2609 02:37:12,330 --> 02:37:15,540 commenting on the video in a statement saying all Americans 2610 02:37:15,690 --> 02:37:18,480 should condemn this depiction of violence directed toward 2611 02:37:18,480 --> 02:37:21,540 journalists in the President's political opponents. We call on 2612 02:37:21,540 --> 02:37:24,900 everybody to denounce this video and affirm that violence has no 2613 02:37:24,900 --> 02:37:28,410 place in our society. A spokesman for Donald Jr. told 2614 02:37:28,410 --> 02:37:31,140 The New York Times quote, Dawn hasn't seen the video and was 2615 02:37:31,140 --> 02:37:34,110 unaware of its existence until the recent media reports about 2616 02:37:34,110 --> 02:37:37,410 it. But he strongly condemns the type of disgusting and graphic 2617 02:37:37,410 --> 02:37:40,110 violence purported to be depicted in the video against 2618 02:37:40,110 --> 02:37:43,200 members of the media, regardless of political party, we should 2619 02:37:43,200 --> 02:37:46,410 all reject any and all violence in our politics, whether it's 2620 02:37:46,410 --> 02:37:49,560 directed toward members of the media, politicians, the family 2621 02:37:49,560 --> 02:37:52,860 members of politicians or political activists. The 2622 02:37:52,860 --> 02:37:55,830 President's reelection campaign says the video was not produced 2623 02:37:55,830 --> 02:38:00,540 by the campaign and that they do not condone violence Louis you 2624 02:38:00,540 --> 02:38:00,870 know, 2625 02:38:00,960 --> 02:38:03,690 Adam Curry: that was talking about our value for value model. 2626 02:38:03,900 --> 02:38:09,960 And you know, what, what is the time that that we entertained 2627 02:38:09,960 --> 02:38:13,110 you're informed you What is it worth to you? And this is a 2628 02:38:13,110 --> 02:38:18,210 minute and 4646 seconds that I mean, we'll never get that back. 2629 02:38:19,320 --> 02:38:24,450 Is that is the first of all the videos a year old said Doctor 2630 02:38:24,450 --> 02:38:29,160 it's doctored it's violent no one no one had a problem with 2631 02:38:29,160 --> 02:38:32,160 the with the movie where they were killing churchgoer 2632 02:38:32,490 --> 02:38:35,910 John C. Dvorak: time. God, that is the point I'm want to make. 2633 02:38:36,480 --> 02:38:41,850 How come the actual movie itself which is in crave it's funny, 2634 02:38:41,850 --> 02:38:47,880 violent? Violent? Yes. Nobody says Jack about that. No. And 2635 02:38:47,880 --> 02:38:53,520 then nobody said anything about the orange bullets. You 2636 02:38:53,550 --> 02:38:55,800 Adam Curry: You have to wear your cue glasses. You can't you 2637 02:38:55,800 --> 02:38:58,560 can't understand the bullets. The orange bullets don't work 2638 02:38:58,560 --> 02:39:03,450 unless you got cue vision. This neat the you know, it won't take 2639 02:39:03,450 --> 02:39:08,850 much longer. But the only loser right now is the mainstream 2640 02:39:08,880 --> 02:39:13,200 media. The mainstream news has lost all credibility. It will 2641 02:39:13,200 --> 02:39:16,320 not matter. You see the ratings the way they are now. It's only 2642 02:39:16,320 --> 02:39:19,530 going to get less it will no longer be profitable. I'm still 2643 02:39:19,590 --> 02:39:22,680 kind of thankful that Mike the my pillow guy is keeping Tucker 2644 02:39:22,680 --> 02:39:25,770 Carlson on the air. I think he has interesting guests. You 2645 02:39:25,770 --> 02:39:27,390 know, that's always fun to watch. 2646 02:39:27,480 --> 02:39:30,090 John C. Dvorak: Because did you see when Trump was in Minnesota 2647 02:39:30,090 --> 02:39:33,600 he called out Mike because I guess Mike's up in that area. Do 2648 02:39:33,600 --> 02:39:34,770 Mike is in the audience 2649 02:39:34,800 --> 02:39:36,450 Adam Curry: and Mike is an American hero. 2650 02:39:36,810 --> 02:39:39,240 John C. Dvorak: So he calls him out and he goes on and on about 2651 02:39:39,240 --> 02:39:43,140 how what a great advertising the guy really knows how to buy ads. 2652 02:39:43,170 --> 02:39:48,270 Adam Curry: What he does is all over the fox has been so deep 2653 02:39:48,270 --> 02:39:51,870 platformed particularly Tucker Carlson. I'm surprised he's on 2654 02:39:51,870 --> 02:39:54,540 the air at all. But yeah, I think I think Mike the my pillow 2655 02:39:54,540 --> 02:39:59,400 guy is and it's a long spot. It's I think two and a half 2656 02:39:59,400 --> 02:40:02,700 minute spot. It runs every commercial break. That's all 2657 02:40:02,700 --> 02:40:07,470 they got. It's terrible. But this is gross. They don't even 2658 02:40:07,470 --> 02:40:10,800 understand what they're doing. We are the future of news. And 2659 02:40:10,800 --> 02:40:14,100 why are we the future of news? I'll tell you why. Because we 2660 02:40:14,100 --> 02:40:18,330 have boots on the ground worldwide. Last night, we did 2661 02:40:18,330 --> 02:40:21,810 another NAMS prep net. If you want to join those, and you're a 2662 02:40:21,810 --> 02:40:26,850 ham radio operator, join the NAMS. That's NAMS and AMS, short 2663 02:40:26,850 --> 02:40:31,620 for no agenda, hams. Go to K five acc.com. To find out how 2664 02:40:31,620 --> 02:40:35,010 you can get on the All Star link network. There's always 10 to 15 2665 02:40:35,010 --> 02:40:38,550 hams who are checking in we have multiple truck drivers, we got 2666 02:40:38,580 --> 02:40:41,580 all kinds of cool reports and people talking amongst 2667 02:40:41,580 --> 02:40:46,080 themselves. This is all this is all something that the 2668 02:40:46,080 --> 02:40:50,880 mainstream can no longer do. They don't regard the audience 2669 02:40:50,970 --> 02:40:54,870 as a part of the process. If you want any secret about 2670 02:40:54,870 --> 02:41:00,240 podcasting, please take it from us. You want to involve your 2671 02:41:00,240 --> 02:41:05,130 audience. And it's and don't use words like engagement hubs. It's 2672 02:41:06,600 --> 02:41:11,790 no, we have producers 1000s of them. They happen to be the 2673 02:41:11,790 --> 02:41:16,320 people who listen, they have they have a stake in the game. 2674 02:41:16,530 --> 02:41:21,000 This is their show. They finance it, they produce it. They help 2675 02:41:21,000 --> 02:41:23,640 with stories, they help with background with information, 2676 02:41:23,670 --> 02:41:28,680 lots of expertise. That's what the mainstream is losing out on 2677 02:41:28,680 --> 02:41:32,280 and they're going to this just a big circle jerk everywhere. 2678 02:41:32,760 --> 02:41:36,600 There's mainstream, certainly mainstream news. And it's going 2679 02:41:36,600 --> 02:41:40,170 to end it'll just it will eventually just go away and 2680 02:41:40,170 --> 02:41:44,100 they'll be going like will happen. Boom. Instead, we should 2681 02:41:44,100 --> 02:41:46,230 get some subsidies of some cylinders. 2682 02:41:46,890 --> 02:41:48,780 John C. Dvorak: Right? That's what's gonna happen. That's what 2683 02:41:48,780 --> 02:41:51,210 happens in Canada. Right now. They're pushing for subsidies 2684 02:41:51,210 --> 02:41:54,450 because they can't carry the load. Did you see that? You 2685 02:41:54,450 --> 02:41:58,800 didn't say skin in the game. By the way. That phrase really irks 2686 02:41:58,800 --> 02:41:59,010 me. 2687 02:41:59,370 --> 02:42:03,990 Adam Curry: I stayed away from that. Senator Senator Blumenthal 2688 02:42:04,380 --> 02:42:06,840 had something to say about journalists. And I'm just 2689 02:42:06,840 --> 02:42:10,560 wondering if he really wants to include this in his new 2690 02:42:10,560 --> 02:42:15,330 protected class. He has a bill in that is going to protect 2691 02:42:15,330 --> 02:42:16,140 journos. 2692 02:42:16,170 --> 02:42:19,290 Unknown: We know from the incidents that have occurred in 2693 02:42:19,290 --> 02:42:23,040 the past. And in fact, some of these attacks on journalists 2694 02:42:23,520 --> 02:42:28,800 have been fatal, that there is a segment of the population that 2695 02:42:29,220 --> 02:42:33,990 feels antipathy toward the press that they express verbally in 2696 02:42:33,990 --> 02:42:41,850 threats and also at the extreme physically in direct attacks on 2697 02:42:41,850 --> 02:42:49,500 the press. So what we have to address is the continuing threat 2698 02:42:49,530 --> 02:42:55,140 of physical violence, whether by guns or other means against the 2699 02:42:55,140 --> 02:42:59,370 press that may intimidate them in their vital newsgathering 2700 02:42:59,550 --> 02:43:05,850 operation. It is a priority for me to protect newsgathering 2701 02:43:06,060 --> 02:43:11,010 operations, no matter what their form, okay, and the act that 2702 02:43:11,010 --> 02:43:15,840 we're proposing would in fact, establish a federal crime when 2703 02:43:15,870 --> 02:43:24,360 someone threatens or attacks any one doing fact gathering or news 2704 02:43:24,960 --> 02:43:29,850 operations. That is the purpose of this bill, it would be 2705 02:43:29,850 --> 02:43:33,780 punishable, if it's bodily injury by up to three years 2706 02:43:33,780 --> 02:43:38,460 serious bodily injury by up to six years and a fine and 2707 02:43:38,490 --> 02:43:41,940 newsgathering is broadly defined to include book writing 2708 02:43:41,970 --> 02:43:47,640 magazine. Obviously, photography, any kind of media 2709 02:43:47,640 --> 02:43:49,860 that involves communication with the public. 2710 02:43:50,130 --> 02:43:54,720 Adam Curry: Hey, man back off. I'm an Instagram influencer. I 2711 02:43:54,720 --> 02:43:56,910 take photographs on protected. 2712 02:43:57,270 --> 02:43:59,460 John C. Dvorak: Oh, hold on a second. This is interesting, 2713 02:43:59,460 --> 02:44:02,940 because there's a number of areas where if you're taking 2714 02:44:02,940 --> 02:44:05,940 photographs, the cops will come over and bash in the head. 2715 02:44:05,940 --> 02:44:06,240 That's 2716 02:44:06,240 --> 02:44:08,370 Adam Curry: right, and then they can go to jail for three years. 2717 02:44:09,150 --> 02:44:09,630 Yeah, 2718 02:44:09,990 --> 02:44:12,060 John C. Dvorak: this will be there's gonna have to deal with 2719 02:44:12,060 --> 02:44:14,640 that. I had to look at this bill when they finalise it. Yeah, you 2720 02:44:14,640 --> 02:44:17,640 Adam Curry: know, that annoys me so much this. I'm always seeing 2721 02:44:17,670 --> 02:44:22,770 announcements of bills. I saw the Maxine Waters, has announced 2722 02:44:22,770 --> 02:44:24,750 the bill. It's gone to committee, so we're not allowed 2723 02:44:24,750 --> 02:44:29,550 to see the text yet which will end homelessness. I know. 2724 02:44:29,730 --> 02:44:33,570 Speaking of which, and this will be my last for today. We have 2725 02:44:33,570 --> 02:44:37,620 another big meeting here in the hamlet of Austin, Texas. We 2726 02:44:37,620 --> 02:44:40,350 pretend to be a big ass city, but we're really just a bunch of 2727 02:44:41,190 --> 02:44:45,510 country bumpkins here in The Hamlet, and with a lot of lip 2728 02:44:45,510 --> 02:44:49,470 Joes running around. So tonight on the docket once again is the 2729 02:44:49,470 --> 02:44:52,380 conversation of whether we should rescind and reject and 2730 02:44:52,380 --> 02:44:57,090 overturn and reinstate the no camping no lie ban so that we 2731 02:44:57,090 --> 02:45:01,920 don't drown in faeces and needles. Like some other places 2732 02:45:01,920 --> 02:45:06,270 we know this has to happen before November 1, otherwise the 2733 02:45:06,270 --> 02:45:10,350 governor of Texas has said, Oh come in. In fact, it was a big 2734 02:45:10,350 --> 02:45:11,190 story last night. 2735 02:45:11,429 --> 02:45:14,489 Unknown: Greg Abbott says he is not bluffing. He says if the 2736 02:45:14,489 --> 02:45:18,269 city doesn't reverse course, major state agencies will move 2737 02:45:18,269 --> 02:45:22,499 into Austin November 1. To clean up areas of town where homeless 2738 02:45:22,499 --> 02:45:24,329 people camp will include DPS 2739 02:45:24,330 --> 02:45:27,660 troopers transportation and state health services. KX as 2740 02:45:27,660 --> 02:45:30,960 political reporter Phil praising is back with an interview you'll 2741 02:45:30,960 --> 02:45:35,520 only see here on KX I spent three days in Dallas, Texas the 2742 02:45:35,520 --> 02:45:40,200 past few days. In cover almost every area of downtown Dallas, 2743 02:45:40,350 --> 02:45:43,500 there was not one person out camping out one person laying on 2744 02:45:43,500 --> 02:45:47,070 the street, no faeces on the ground. They have more homeless 2745 02:45:47,130 --> 02:45:50,430 in Dallas than they have in Austin, Texas, because they have 2746 02:45:50,430 --> 02:45:54,600 an orderly process. They go about making sure that the the 2747 02:45:55,080 --> 02:45:58,320 what's going on downtown Austin has not taken place in downtown 2748 02:45:58,320 --> 02:46:00,510 Dallas, they have more than enough money to solve the 2749 02:46:00,510 --> 02:46:03,660 problems they just need to step up and address it and show 2750 02:46:03,660 --> 02:46:07,080 leadership. Second thing then they should do is stop their 2751 02:46:07,080 --> 02:46:10,920 hypocrisy. Why did they set one rule for the homeless to be able 2752 02:46:10,920 --> 02:46:13,920 to roam around any place they want to? But they say oh no, not 2753 02:46:13,920 --> 02:46:17,250 at City Hall. If they really care about the homeless, the 2754 02:46:17,250 --> 02:46:20,310 first thing the city of Austin should do is to say the City 2755 02:46:20,310 --> 02:46:23,670 Hall is the place you should come to lie around City Hall 2756 02:46:23,730 --> 02:46:26,700 come inside as opposed to been exposed to the heat or the cold 2757 02:46:26,700 --> 02:46:30,450 outside come inside City Hall. You need access to running water 2758 02:46:30,510 --> 02:46:33,960 come inside City Hall user water user plumbing sleep in our 2759 02:46:33,960 --> 02:46:37,680 parking garage often needs to stop the hypocrisy 2760 02:46:38,850 --> 02:46:40,830 Adam Curry: of them's fighting words. Yeah, them's fighting 2761 02:46:40,830 --> 02:46:44,940 words from from Governor Abbott. I think there's there's there's 2762 02:46:44,940 --> 02:46:48,060 another piece of evidence that came across across my desk from 2763 02:46:48,060 --> 02:46:53,700 our producers. that disturbs me a bit as this may be what's 2764 02:46:53,700 --> 02:46:56,700 going on in Austin is I don't it may not it may only may be 2765 02:46:56,700 --> 02:47:02,280 specific to Austin. So while all this is playing out, while we 2766 02:47:02,280 --> 02:47:06,690 have the only solution to the homelessness problem, according 2767 02:47:06,690 --> 02:47:10,170 to the Seattle county council, our leaders as we call them in 2768 02:47:10,170 --> 02:47:16,440 Austin leaders, oh leader, or leader Adler please tell me is 2769 02:47:16,500 --> 02:47:20,100 to build more affordable housing. And we have a vote 2770 02:47:20,100 --> 02:47:24,690 coming up on on voting day Election Day. I don't think 2771 02:47:24,690 --> 02:47:27,750 we're voting or I wouldn't vote for any officials. But we do 2772 02:47:27,750 --> 02:47:32,670 have a proposition. And there's one thing that's been on, I've 2773 02:47:32,670 --> 02:47:39,150 seen it on the on the ballot, at least three years is seeing this 2774 02:47:39,150 --> 02:47:40,140 John C. Dvorak: coming. Go on. 2775 02:47:40,170 --> 02:47:44,790 Adam Curry: It's called Code next. And code encode next is a 2776 02:47:44,790 --> 02:47:48,540 complete it's failed the two previous years. But now I see 2777 02:47:48,540 --> 02:47:51,720 the signs in the yard again code Next we need code next. And it 2778 02:47:51,720 --> 02:47:54,810 sounds kind of cool if she didn't want code next. Code. 2779 02:47:54,810 --> 02:47:59,250 Next is a complete rezoning redistricting redistricting plan 2780 02:47:59,250 --> 02:48:04,080 for the city of Austin. Here's the troubling part. So they say 2781 02:48:04,080 --> 02:48:08,430 we don't have enough middle housing, whatever that means, as 2782 02:48:08,430 --> 02:48:11,790 I guess you've got the downtown, you have kind of in the centre, 2783 02:48:11,790 --> 02:48:14,010 you've got your apartment buildings and your condos, and 2784 02:48:14,010 --> 02:48:16,740 then you move out. And on the edges way on the edges. You've 2785 02:48:16,740 --> 02:48:20,430 got single family homes, and in the middle, you've got all this 2786 02:48:20,430 --> 02:48:25,080 other stuff. And the zoning has already had already been 2787 02:48:25,080 --> 02:48:27,810 changed. As I think we've talked about when the keeper and I were 2788 02:48:27,810 --> 02:48:31,380 looking for a house, you'd find that there's a rezoning has 2789 02:48:31,380 --> 02:48:36,480 already taken place in Austin, where you can put two homes in 2790 02:48:36,480 --> 02:48:39,450 their own little mini homeowner's association. So 2791 02:48:39,450 --> 02:48:43,800 they're connected by one wall or maybe a common roof or a garage. 2792 02:48:44,460 --> 02:48:49,140 And so then you can build two homes on a lot intended for a 2793 02:48:49,140 --> 02:48:54,900 single home code next, actually would make single family home 2794 02:48:54,900 --> 02:48:55,620 lots 2795 02:48:57,690 --> 02:48:59,490 a thing of history in Austin. 2796 02:49:01,440 --> 02:49:06,870 And in the corridors that they've outlined on the map the 2797 02:49:06,870 --> 02:49:11,310 transition zones and corridors, whatever that means, is 2798 02:49:11,310 --> 02:49:18,030 basically everywhere. missing middle housing will be zoned by 2799 02:49:18,060 --> 02:49:24,510 allowing for single family home lots to contain buildings that 2800 02:49:24,510 --> 02:49:29,460 can house up to four families and can be 60 feet high and can 2801 02:49:29,460 --> 02:49:30,960 take up to two five 2802 02:49:30,960 --> 02:49:31,800 watts. 2803 02:49:33,300 --> 02:49:38,550 So they want to completely overpopulate all of the 2804 02:49:38,550 --> 02:49:42,750 surrounding areas of Austin, under the auspices of we need 2805 02:49:42,750 --> 02:49:45,210 affordable housing and you know, of course is what's going to 2806 02:49:45,210 --> 02:49:47,640 happen with that it's not going to go to any homeless people. 2807 02:49:47,790 --> 02:49:52,170 But all of Austin could be these horrible for plexes you know, 2808 02:49:52,170 --> 02:49:53,970 try flexes and fourplexes 2809 02:49:54,240 --> 02:49:57,720 John C. Dvorak: flexes are fine if they're here and there. This 2810 02:49:57,720 --> 02:50:01,200 isn't this part of agenda 21 or so. process where they're trying 2811 02:50:01,200 --> 02:50:04,830 to eliminate single home owners in the United States can order 2812 02:50:04,860 --> 02:50:05,790 your home Italy 2813 02:50:05,820 --> 02:50:09,210 Adam Curry: totally part of that. Absolutely. Yeah. And 2814 02:50:09,210 --> 02:50:12,150 John C. Dvorak: this is just a scheme to start that process. So 2815 02:50:12,150 --> 02:50:15,030 screw you homeowners, if you have a home too bad they can 2816 02:50:15,030 --> 02:50:16,230 forcibly 2817 02:50:17,340 --> 02:50:20,310 Adam Curry: make you change. You know, if you're at home is X 2818 02:50:20,310 --> 02:50:22,950 amount of years old, you know, there's all these, you will not 2819 02:50:22,950 --> 02:50:25,920 be able to buy a house, which I'm okay with, you know, people 2820 02:50:25,920 --> 02:50:29,670 who buy a teardown job, even if and there's a lot of teardown 2821 02:50:29,670 --> 02:50:34,020 situations in Austin, we've got a lot of these older homes from 2822 02:50:34,020 --> 02:50:39,480 the turn of the century. And you know, you if the land is much 2823 02:50:39,480 --> 02:50:42,930 more valuable than the home, you won't be able to tear that down, 2824 02:50:43,470 --> 02:50:48,300 unless you're going to build a triplex or quad Plex. And this 2825 02:50:48,300 --> 02:50:51,630 is going to ruin the character of Austin. And it's just going 2826 02:50:51,630 --> 02:50:56,580 to house you know, tech workers. Yeah, 2827 02:50:56,640 --> 02:50:59,160 John C. Dvorak: tech workers, tech workers are probably the 2828 02:50:59,160 --> 02:51:03,120 worst, because they're just like busy bees, and they'll just move 2829 02:51:03,120 --> 02:51:06,510 into overpriced apartments and shit. There's a couple of 2830 02:51:06,510 --> 02:51:09,840 operations in San Francisco where there's 10 people and you 2831 02:51:09,840 --> 02:51:13,260 know, 10 people living in a small space with special bunk 2832 02:51:13,320 --> 02:51:16,800 beds all set up. Yeah, only costs $1,000 a month. 2833 02:51:18,060 --> 02:51:20,160 Adam Curry: But I'm kind of connecting these two and I feel 2834 02:51:20,160 --> 02:51:22,890 that they're trying to hold off on this because they want to 2835 02:51:23,250 --> 02:51:27,270 possibly, because you know, again, code Nexus failed in how 2836 02:51:27,270 --> 02:51:31,260 about voting? No. Well, no, but I think they're going to try it. 2837 02:51:31,290 --> 02:51:33,990 What I think we'll find out tonight tonight, we have another 2838 02:51:34,200 --> 02:51:36,870 the big Council city meeting. I think what they may be trying to 2839 02:51:36,870 --> 02:51:40,500 do is to say, you know, we really want to build affordable 2840 02:51:40,500 --> 02:51:44,910 housing, but we can't we got to zone it. You got to vote yes. 2841 02:51:44,910 --> 02:51:48,570 For code. Next. I'm telling you, this has come these guys are so 2842 02:51:48,570 --> 02:51:52,110 cynically evil. I would I wouldn't put it past on that. 2843 02:51:52,110 --> 02:51:53,130 That's what's going on. 2844 02:51:54,150 --> 02:51:55,140 In the meantime, 2845 02:51:55,920 --> 02:51:59,700 we got poop on the streets, as some people have boots on the 2846 02:51:59,700 --> 02:52:03,000 ground. We got poop on the ground. As a Governor Abbott 2847 02:52:03,000 --> 02:52:05,220 said, and we'll see what he does. And we'll see what happens 2848 02:52:05,220 --> 02:52:09,540 tonight. I will have a report on Sunday show. Sounds good to me. 2849 02:52:11,430 --> 02:52:13,380 John C. Dvorak: Well, one last tip before we leave Sure let's 2850 02:52:13,380 --> 02:52:18,000 do it. Okay, I have there's something us extinction 2851 02:52:18,000 --> 02:52:20,520 rebellion and one of the big bitches and moans that went on 2852 02:52:20,520 --> 02:52:23,700 about the debates you've heard on Democracy Now. They brought 2853 02:52:23,700 --> 02:52:27,540 on expert after expert moaning and groaning about how none of 2854 02:52:27,540 --> 02:52:30,540 the questioners asked anything about climate change, which is 2855 02:52:30,540 --> 02:52:33,510 really the most important topic. I mean, it's an existential 2856 02:52:33,510 --> 02:52:35,760 threat. How could we see an existential threat so the 2857 02:52:35,760 --> 02:52:39,090 existence rebellion people, and I'm gonna ask is just a 2858 02:52:39,090 --> 02:52:43,530 rhetorical question, what is the deal with dragging boats through 2859 02:52:43,530 --> 02:52:47,520 the street, and then propping up someplace in the middle of town? 2860 02:52:48,090 --> 02:52:51,150 They did it in London, and they've done it in New York. And 2861 02:52:51,150 --> 02:52:57,000 so I have a this is the XR protest in New York City with a 2862 02:52:57,000 --> 02:53:01,260 person a young woman who goes on and on about all how she's gonna 2863 02:53:01,260 --> 02:53:01,860 die. 2864 02:53:01,980 --> 02:53:04,020 Unknown: protesters were arrested Thursday after shutting 2865 02:53:04,020 --> 02:53:06,540 down an intersection in the heart of Times Square is part of 2866 02:53:06,540 --> 02:53:09,630 a climate action organised by extinction rebellion. 2867 02:53:10,290 --> 02:53:15,840 My name is Isabel. I'm a student at NYU. And I'm incredibly 2868 02:53:15,840 --> 02:53:20,280 scared at the state of our world. And we're in the middle 2869 02:53:20,280 --> 02:53:26,310 of a sixth mass extinction. And we have to act now. Clearly, 2870 02:53:26,340 --> 02:53:29,730 just posting on Facebook and tweeting about it is not 2871 02:53:29,730 --> 02:53:32,850 creating any change. And the only way to create change is to 2872 02:53:32,850 --> 02:53:36,780 start business as usual. leaders listen and create policies and 2873 02:53:36,780 --> 02:53:37,710 green new deals. 2874 02:53:39,090 --> 02:53:41,880 Adam Curry: Say green new deals, plural need more than one green 2875 02:53:41,880 --> 02:53:42,330 New Deal? 2876 02:53:42,630 --> 02:53:46,110 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, green new deals, use plural. And we're all 2877 02:53:46,110 --> 02:53:50,370 gonna die. This he's at NYU. I mean, what are the students? 2878 02:53:50,370 --> 02:53:53,760 What are these students being taught at the colleges today? 2879 02:53:53,790 --> 02:53:57,360 Adam Curry: Well, this morning I got I saw some video from 2880 02:53:57,390 --> 02:54:01,320 London. The Londoners are tired of the extinction rebellion. 2881 02:54:01,320 --> 02:54:06,030 People who have of course been lying on top of the subway 2882 02:54:06,030 --> 02:54:10,500 trains and, and other trains. Now the public has taken over 2883 02:54:10,500 --> 02:54:13,620 they just they're ripping these people down. It's beautiful to 2884 02:54:13,620 --> 02:54:18,030 watch. And the crowd is cheering i Yeah, Harry, get off of there. 2885 02:54:18,030 --> 02:54:22,020 You're morons, because they're holding up traffic like die on 2886 02:54:22,020 --> 02:54:26,970 your own time with your extinction, rebellion. Poof, so 2887 02:54:26,970 --> 02:54:30,540 much to deconstruct. But don't worry, because of this 2888 02:54:30,540 --> 02:54:35,460 programme, which is your production, your amygdala doing 2889 02:54:35,460 --> 02:54:42,870 it and your amygdala stays healthy inside. And we shall 2890 02:54:42,870 --> 02:54:46,560 return on Sunday with another edition of the Best podcast in 2891 02:54:46,560 --> 02:54:48,750 the universe. It's right there and the Muller report. If you 2892 02:54:48,750 --> 02:54:51,840 don't believe me, go ahead and take a look. Just read it. I 2893 02:54:51,840 --> 02:54:56,760 think was also mentioned in the Ukraine transcript. Debate. 2894 02:54:56,880 --> 02:55:01,020 Yeah, I don't know. No one read it. So why don't we now base 2895 02:55:01,020 --> 02:55:04,290 force please remember us for our show on Sunday and support the 2896 02:55:04,290 --> 02:55:09,630 programme at the vortech.org/na Coming up next on the no agenda 2897 02:55:09,630 --> 02:55:13,710 stream nick the racked with tales from the sewer. Part 2898 02:55:13,710 --> 02:55:18,360 Three. And coming to you from opportunity's own 33 here on the 2899 02:55:18,360 --> 02:55:22,710 frontier of Austin, Texas in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam 2900 02:55:22,710 --> 02:55:23,100 curry 2901 02:55:23,160 --> 02:55:25,710 John C. Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where we say go 2902 02:55:25,710 --> 02:55:27,300 Brexit. I'm Johnson. 2903 02:55:28,230 --> 02:55:30,600 Adam Curry: Special thanks to Tom Starkweather Jesse Coyne 2904 02:55:30,600 --> 02:55:33,960 Nelson Lee Oh, le puke for our inner show mixes until Sunday, 2905 02:55:33,960 --> 02:55:39,840 everybody until then. Adios, mofos photos, and such. 2906 02:55:49,650 --> 02:55:50,910 Unknown: Raise your hands. Yes. 2907 02:55:51,539 --> 02:55:52,979 So if you're asking me, 2908 02:55:53,220 --> 02:55:56,190 I don't need lessons from you on courage 2909 02:55:56,400 --> 02:55:58,440 completely despicable. 2910 02:55:58,590 --> 02:56:00,660 John C. Dvorak: Senator Warren, I just want to say that I was 2911 02:56:00,660 --> 02:56:04,620 surprised to hear that you did not agree with me. I got votes 2912 02:56:04,620 --> 02:56:05,370 for that bill. 2913 02:56:05,430 --> 02:56:08,130 Unknown: If all we could do is take their money we should be 2914 02:56:08,130 --> 02:56:10,530 ashamed about. Well, first of all, let 2915 02:56:10,530 --> 02:56:14,370 me say this. Senator Sanders is right. I am not going to give 2916 02:56:14,370 --> 02:56:17,460 these police officers another reason to go door to door in 2917 02:56:17,460 --> 02:56:18,420 certain communities. 2918 02:56:18,480 --> 02:56:20,340 Adam Curry: And we're not stopping there. How many of you 2919 02:56:20,340 --> 02:56:22,530 have noticed stores closing where you work and live here in 2920 02:56:22,530 --> 02:56:25,350 Ohio? Raise your hands. Guess what? 2921 02:56:25,590 --> 02:56:28,260 Unknown: You are making Republican talking points right 2922 02:56:28,260 --> 02:56:29,280 now in this room. 2923 02:56:29,640 --> 02:56:35,970 You make it to the top, the top 1/10 of 1%. Then pitch in two 2924 02:56:35,970 --> 02:56:36,600 cents 2925 02:56:36,630 --> 02:56:38,970 demonising Well, what I've talked about is how you get 2926 02:56:38,970 --> 02:56:39,510 things done. 2927 02:56:40,080 --> 02:56:42,690 Adam Curry: But I want to give a reality check here to Elizabeth 2928 02:56:42,720 --> 02:56:45,600 when we're talking about him. We are losing. We need to present a 2929 02:56:45,600 --> 02:56:47,700 new vision and that even includes talking about 2930 02:56:47,700 --> 02:56:48,690 impeaching Donald Trump. 2931 02:56:48,810 --> 02:56:52,440 Unknown: What we have to do now is focus on Donald Trump. He 2932 02:56:52,440 --> 02:56:55,530 doesn't want me to be the candidate. He's going after me 2933 02:56:55,530 --> 02:56:58,890 because he knows if I get if I get the nomination, I will beat 2934 02:56:58,890 --> 02:57:01,020 him like a drum. We heard it tonight. 2935 02:57:01,200 --> 02:57:03,450 Adam Curry: A yes or no question that didn't get a yes or no 2936 02:57:03,450 --> 02:57:06,030 answer. That's a mischaracterization and it's not 2937 02:57:06,030 --> 02:57:06,690 gonna answer this 2938 02:57:07,230 --> 02:57:09,270 Unknown: I'm gonna say something that is probably going to offend 2939 02:57:09,270 --> 02:57:24,000 some people here but start the music thing go bing bing bing 2940 02:57:24,000 --> 02:57:37,050 bing bing bing and baby being the biggest 2941 02:57:39,180 --> 02:57:44,160 John C. Dvorak: show that I should use begin from now that 2942 02:57:44,160 --> 02:57:55,380 real quick I gotta check this piece of crap out it's a scam 2943 02:57:57,540 --> 02:58:03,180 abuse me I should use the brain. Let me switch to being my 2944 02:58:05,070 --> 02:58:12,450 switching to being this I'm really switching today. I'm 2945 02:58:12,450 --> 02:58:14,550 going to being a baby. Being that 2946 02:58:14,550 --> 02:58:15,840 Unknown: was some weird shit 2947 02:58:23,550 --> 02:58:27,720 Adam Curry: MoPhO boruch.org/in A. 2948 02:58:28,770 --> 02:58:29,940 Unknown: This is shameful