John C. Dvorak: I am a robot. I am sustainable. You must die.
Adam curry John C. Devorah.
Adam Curry: Sunday August 11 2019. This is your award
winning keep our nation media assassination episode 1163.
Unknown: This is no agenda,
Adam Curry: avoiding hot tub small aircraft, tall buildings
and broadcasting live from the frontier of Austin, Texas
capital of the drone star. Stay in the morning, everybody. I'm
Adam curry
John C. Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where
it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood. Won't you be my
neighbor? I'm Jesse. Gill.
Adam Curry: I'm just going to ignore the whole neighborhood
conversation. I know you don't like him, he's dead. Don't worry
about it. Meaning to hate to sweaters. I got it. The man is
not loved. What
John C. Dvorak: do you what are you rambling on about? I know
Adam Curry: you don't like Mr. Ross. You don't like Mr. Rogers?
A point a point of order point of order. Kind of
John C. Dvorak: information. Point of information.
Adam Curry: Conrad. I would like to mention, the way we work on
this show is a novel way we believe it is the way to go. A
John and I are pretty much not in contact in between shows
during the week except for some maybe administrative stuff.
Maybe there's something we want to make sure the other has seen.
But rarely will we talk about what we're working on what we're
collecting.
John C. Dvorak: I should mention that once in a while not often.
We work on a skit.
Adam Curry: Yeah, and that always fails.
John C. Dvorak: Always pay that often. No, it's Zephyr Yeah,
very good night. You know how many cars 456-789-1010 No, no
extra car.
Adam Curry: Um, so similarly, I do not know what clips John has.
He does not know what clips I have. However, John does his
clips the evening before Saturday night so they come in
around one or 2am My time I don't see them until the
morning. Of course I do download them I don't listen to them. I
do look at the titles and to give me a little bit of
indication where in what area he's been researching and I'm
very happy to see that you have crossed the streams and entered
into my my fantastic Polly territory. Which I like a lot.
Actually, that's not the amazing Polly I think is her name. So I
immediately ceased all production on the amazing Polly
clips. So we will get to those actually fabulous Pollyanna.
It's amazing. The amazing Polly the amazing Polly is what she
is. The YouTuber apparently you found as well who I've been
following for weeks and weeks.
John C. Dvorak: Well, she cropped up on the botanic feed.
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's because he he actually has gotten stuff
from her. So we he so he tells me.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, well, it's a dubious source to say the
least.
Adam Curry: Well, she's not a source. She's a
deconstructionist
John C. Dvorak: she is. She's less well, if you want to call
her that. I would call her a liar. guilt by association
specialist.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Well, she she does yarn. She does yarn and
tax. You know, colored yarn mirror artist. Oh, I wouldn't
say that. Okay, so this is Sunday, August 11. The second
Thursday show of the week. Typically, the events that
occurred yesterday happened on the show day. So it was quite
surprising. We had a little bit of time to at least think about
it. This is the apparent suicide of Jeffrey Epstein.
John C. Dvorak: crowd goes wild. Yeah, here's
Adam Curry: the crowd. I was I was downtrodden. disheartened
when I heard this.
John C. Dvorak: Well considering is in a federal facility and
he's got was was on suicide watch, which apparently they
dropped. And he was being monitored by cameras, which
apparently stopped working and all the rest. Now, it wouldn't
be somewhat disheartening. I don't think anybody was too
happy about it bar in particular.
Adam Curry: Well, a couple of things changed. As far as I
know, it was ABC and the New York Post who reported this
first. And I And I'm always I mean, I had to because it
happened early in the morning and my phone was just ringing
because I was getting text messages from people saying, you
got to see this. You gotta see what's happening. And so that
was kind of handy that we could immediately see who was
responding first and what they were saying. And no doubt that
it was the same everywhere. I think ABC though was the first
and not only did they kind of start off the messaging, but
they also changed a couple things that How have we always
heard Epstein being described the billionaire financier, hedge
fund manager. Then of course, all of the alleged alleged
assaults. So ABC did just came out with this and I was like,
Okay,
Unknown: wait. So Sources tell ABC News Jeffrey Epstein
Adam Curry: does for them to report sources and very came out
very fact of the matter. Everyone had, according to
sources, no name, that no official statement. Have we ever
really seen the official statement from the Met from the
metro correction facility? I
Unknown: don't even think it's a good question because I don't
remember. I don't recall seeing one either. So
Adam Curry: the message was put out very distinctly. Wait, so
Unknown: Sources tell ABC News Jeffrey Epstein took his own
life. The exact timing and circumstances are unclear right
now but the mega Millionaire is
Adam Curry: notice this. We've gone from billionaire financier
to mega millionaire he's gotten the downgrade is accused
Unknown: of exploiting and abusing dozens of minor girls.
He'd been on suicide watch. And in New York City Jail, you'll
remember he was found unresponsive in his cell last
month with marks on his neck. And
John C. Dvorak: just to make sure we get this correct. It's
not it's not true. It's not a New York City Jail.
Adam Curry: It was also not found unresponsive a couple of
weeks ago, he was found complaining of some of his neck
being hurt. I don't think he was unresponsive. Yeah,
Unknown: this cell last month with marks on his neck.
Initially, investigators thought he'd tried to take his own life.
They were then looking into whether he was assaulted by
another inmate, or if he'd even paid someone to beat him up.
Epstein's attorneys had been fighting to get him out on bail,
but a judge refused. Prosecutors argued the mega millionaires
lifestyle and wealth made him an extreme flight risk
Adam Curry: again, make a millionaire just an interesting
to see that change.
John C. Dvorak: Another couple of things you should note
assaulted by another prisoner. Yeah. This particular jail is
not allows mixing of prisoners and you can find out kind of
what this place is like, believe it or not, by the Yelp reviews.
Adam Curry: How many stars does it get as a as a lockup?
John C. Dvorak: Clean one like I just give it one star and a lot
of people get four stars five stars thinking it's pretty not a
bad place to be.
Adam Curry: Oh, they've got to be paid Yelpers you know how
that goes. I get paid a positive.
John C. Dvorak: And there's I don't see anybody been
advertising boosting it. But there are Yelp reviews. And it
describes the place as being almost impossible even see any
other prisoners literally be assaulted by one.
Adam Curry: So this news was so big that they immediately had to
get our guy the constipated reporter Tom Yamas. Get him on
the phone.
John C. Dvorak: It's not time. Yeah, obviously. It's
Unknown: yummy. Sounds pretty constipated here too.
This also follows news just yesterday, of one of his
associates, a separate court case, but one of the Epstein
accusers coming out and naming names of some very prominent
businessmen and politicians were both denied that they did
anything inappropriate. But they started to name names started to
come out in the public. And this is a little
Adam Curry: confusing, because there's a couple things going
on. There is a new woman who is speaking out. Jennifer a rose, I
think her name is and she's new on the scene. At the same time,
there were actual new DACA documents that were disclosed
John C. Dvorak: 1000 pages.
Adam Curry: The 2000. Yeah. And that included the Bill
Richardson.
John C. Dvorak: Names came from who specifically according to
Yamas, does he say who was naming names? Because every time
I've seen interviews with all these women, they they'll,
they'll kind of beat around the bush, but they never name names.
No, no, I don't think I've seen it. They're all listed there on
that document. That's where
Adam Curry: that's where the names came from. But he's saying
it came from this new they
Unknown: start to name names started to come out in the
public. And one of the associates it was thought of
that some of these Epstein associates were going to be
brought in and possibly charged criminally. So the case was only
getting bigger. So many young girls allegedly abused by
Jeffrey Epstein. Thought they finally were going to seek
justice. They thought they were going to see him rot in a jail
cell. It's unclear at this point what they're thinking today if
this indeed is just as for Jeffrey Epstein. The monster
that they painted is no more
Adam Curry: than he had one other short piece of
information.
Unknown: Well, the criminal case against Jeffrey Epstein
personally obviously just over but if they go after some of his
associates, you have to remember there are allegations out there
that several women work with Jeffrey Epstein to procure some
of these young girls, essentially Madams, if you will.
So far, none of these women have been charged criminally yet, but
there is thinking that the US attorney may go after some of
these people. So the criminal case though it's not even there
yet continue in that direction. There are also civil cases
because gotta remember Jeffrey Epstein is worth at least $500
billion
Adam Curry: All right, so yes, apparently this does not
necessarily hamper other investigations we don't really
know exactly although I've seen some legal opinions that no one
can challenge a search warrant now because Epstein is dead I
really don't know I think in America you can do a lot with
the with the legal system and delay a lot of things. But I am
personally quite interested in TJ's Lane Maxwell, and no one
really seems to there's a lot of saying madams handlers pimps.
Maybe you'll hear Maxwell not even the first name, of course,
it's almost impossible for most Americans to pronounce. Where is
she? Now? I think she is a person of tremendous interest.
But we'll have to just keep battling back and forth for
several weeks about Epstein. Did he hanged himself? Was he
killed? Was it the Clintons? To me, to me, it doesn't matter.
And I'm happy. I think we should probably discuss it a little
bit. But then we just have to agree this guy's out of the
picture. And there's not much on this. It's I personally think he
was this was more of an extraction possibly than
anything.
John C. Dvorak: But I think there's a possibility of that. I
like to extraction idea because, as you just mentioned, the one
aspect to what I didn't consider which is there. Where's the
official statement?
Adam Curry: Yeah, we haven't seen no fish, as far as I know,
no official statement except for Barr, who said he was appalled
to hear of this, and he's going to do something about it. And
pretty much immediately this was politicized. Obviously, the
Clinton body count had been trending for a while. And so
this only helped that mean. I liked the opposing
politicisation. Let me see if I can find it here. Where is she?
Yes, this is joy read our favorite from MSNBC.
Unknown: This is somebody who not only has high profile, who
not only knew a lot of high profile people whose papers just
came out of court or just let out some of the documents
related to his cases that name high profile people who was
friends with the current president of the United States,
who flew a previous president of the United States around on this
plane, who was alleged to have trafficked girls to a row a
member of the royal family of Britain. Okay, this is not a
this is this is you know, on the same level, like Bill Cosby is a
famous person. Now who's now in prison. He knows a lot about a
lot of people. And as you said earlier, his only way out at
this point would be to talk about those people. So he's in
his very vulnerable situation. And then you throw in the fact
which I did not know until thank God Stephanie gospel sitting
here and told me this, that this is now a facility under the
control of the Department of Justice. And this department of
justice does not exactly inspire confidence. Let's just be blunt,
William bars Justice Department is not one that you can readily
simply rely upon and feel confident in. And so what do we
make of all this now that in this federal facility, this
person was allowed to be alone long enough to either harm
himself or be killed by we don't know what happened, right? We
just don't
Adam Curry: show the implication. And if you if
you're on Twitter for more than 30 seconds, you'll see that and
it, it has an Occam's Razor ring to it. That because there is no
evidence that Trump flew on planes except one ferry flight
back from Miami to New York when it was just him I think and the
pilots. I don't think he's
John C. Dvorak: the flight log shows. There's about six people
on there.
Adam Curry: When When Trump was on it, ya know, and were they
going from Miami to New York. That's
John C. Dvorak: what I didn't see where it was going. I just
saw the somebody one of the lib Joe's had cut it out and she was
on this plane. Trump's on a plane.
Adam Curry: Okay, so he was on the plane. There's statements
contrary to him being involved in and by the way, can we say
children instead of young girls or under or underage girls?
John C. Dvorak: A child has a 10 year old? A 15 year old is a
girl. Yeah. All right. Good luck. So I don't use I wouldn't
call 50 year old child like I
Adam Curry: call. I call a 15 year old child. No. All right,
fine. You call them girls. I'll call them children. But the
outcomes razor aspect of it is oh, you know Trump clearly, you
know, because in 2002 He's to even said you know, Epstein,
great guy he loves to party with girls. I was on the younger side
if you know what I mean.
John C. Dvorak: He just he disowned himself from this case
even know. That's that doesn't matter because over 15 years,
especially doesn't matter if you listen to and you think that joy
read was bad. That was bad I
Adam Curry: got a topper.
John C. Dvorak: Oh, yeah. Well, let
Adam Curry: me just let me let me just finish the thought that
just finished this crazy thought which is just as valid as any
other crazy one. If you watch that movie is Trump through bar
his new who as we know is not the Attorney General of the
United States. He is the Attorney General for the
president we've been told this over and over and over again. So
I have to believe that now that he put out the secret signal and
said i The time to off Epstein totally plausible and a very
simple explanation. So I have compassion for people who
believe conspiracy theories. I don't think this is the right
one but I understand where people come from with this that
if you
John C. Dvorak: you know my my favorite one of these off the
wall, kind of Occam's Razor things is Scott Adams, he just
put this out recently. Oh, his comms razor was this bunch of
incompetent boneheads running this prisons that guy kills
himself.
Adam Curry: And that's also a perfectly valid explanation.
Yeah. I mean, I'm not buying it. But yeah, it's all of that.
John C. Dvorak: Well, if it do, you'd be wouldn't be the no
agenda show if we were buying any of this
Adam Curry: stuff? No, of course not. But it's good to look at
all aspects. Before we just decide to move on. The guy's not
in the picture. He's gone.
John C. Dvorak: So in July of this year, Amy Goodman
interviewed Vicki ward. Ah, because for some unknown reason
you've been having a or you've been condemning on Twitter?
Well, I'll tell you shortly, while I'm sure you will. But in
the I have four clips of divert mostly short, but the beginning
clip, which doesn't really involve Vicki Ward, is the
example that I have that tops Joy read, when we know that
Trump hasn't spoken to Epstein for 15 years and maybe more in
the last reference to him saying anything about Epstein is in
2002. But yet, Amy really makes it sound like your best buds.
Here it is.
Unknown: Jeffrey Epstein has counted precedents Donald Trump
and Bill Clinton among his friends, they've flown with him.
Trump told New York Magazine in 2002. I've known Jeff for 15
years terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It's even
said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many
of them are on the younger side, Trump said about his friend
Jeffrey Epstein. Again, this was before all the charges were
brought.
John C. Dvorak: About his friend Jeffrey Epstein has done they're
like Bosom Buddies. This is a classic example of of Amy's
bigotry. When it comes to reporting on Trump. I mean, this
is unconscionable.
Adam Curry: It's, you can call it bad reporting. You can call
it why. Sorry. You can call it bad reporting. You can call it
lying. You can call it framing you can call anything but
objective reporting.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, that was just to me, is why Amy Goodman
is not really in should not even be considered a journalist.
Anyway, okay. So why don't you begin? I have,
Adam Curry: oh, let me tell you about Vicki ward. I got turned
on to the Vicki. I heard Vicki Ward as she started to pop up on
some I'm always watching MSNBC and stuff during the day. But
she was popping up on CNN. In fact, she got hired by CNN just
a few weeks ago. And then I started to find interviews of
her talking about how she wrote the initial x was a in 2002 or
2003 for Vanity Fair, I believe was Vanity Fair. And she went to
her editor and her editor said all you got to take all this
underage girl shit out. This is no good. It's just hearsay. This
is her story. So became much more of a profile of financial
profile of, of Epstein. And now she's saying, Well, I warned you
all about it. And I think there was a couple things she wrote in
2008 2009. When that when the really light sentence came down
on Epstein. And as I'm searching around, and this is probably the
same time I found amazing, Polly, I see her as, like an IT
girl in in New York, high society, tight parties. And
she's always hanging out with Jill just Layne Maxwell even
though she's very condemning of Maxwell of she's les Maxwell and
all these interviews that she's been doing, you know, since
2009. And since she had written about Epstein and everything
that happened, and like, well, what is she doing palling
around? Is this kind of weird so when she tweeted yesterday Oh,
don't worry, just lay Maxwell knows more like What up girl you
know I heard you're partying with her, you're pretending that
your buddies were there. So you tell me what's going on? Of
course, she doesn't answer because I'm just a crackpot
blowing in the wind. And I think that's what I saw more
background, I've got some background from, from the poly
videos. And I find her to be a very interesting character. She
doesn't seem to have any real background yet. She's written
books about Wall Street fraud and all kinds of interesting
topics. And her, I guess it is her ex husband. His I think his
boss, her ex husband's boss was Maxwell's nephew or something,
because that's like it, there's a connection there. There's
always there's always a part, you know, they always have a
connection from one to the next, you know, and so that's why I
kind of leave it to the YouTubers to do all that. But
Vicky Ward is a person of interest to me. And I hope you
have some interesting things.
John C. Dvorak: Well, first of all, I I saw what you were
doing, and so I did my I immediately went to work.
Adam Curry: I'm glad I could inspire you
John C. Dvorak: been suckered?
Adam Curry: You fell into my trap looking for Vicky Ward? No,
I'm sure.
John C. Dvorak: It's quite possible. That actually did
happen. All right. Vicki Ward is a very transparent character.
She goes back into the 90s. And she's always been a very
extremely accomplished writer, and something of a workaholic
and so she's great and but she doesn't crank out enough so many
books and enough books with enough inside scoop to make me
think that in any way. She's mi six, which is what the amazing
Polly implies, which is bullshit. There's no way. I went
back and listen to her. She's been on TV a lot. I'll give you
her whole story. She started she grew graduate from Cambridge and
she was wanted to become a journalist. She became a
newspaper writer in London for the I think the daily standard.
The Telegraph, there's she bounced around, became an editor
for a while she's very good at what she did. And she married
this guy for and she writes a very long essay on her divorce
that ran in 2011. She married this guy who should probably
shouldn't be married and they never got along and they were
pretty much separated by by 2011 when they finally got divorced,
and he's the one who drugged her out of England because he's a
nephew of Conrad black and
Adam Curry: black. That's right. Not Maxwell black. Yes, I'm
sorry.
John C. Dvorak: Yes, Conrad black. He said Come on, kid. You
had joined my operation out here. I'm in Canada in the
United States has moved and they've made a bad move to New
York. She didn't want to do it. She moved to New York, but
because of her and she met if she's anything if you want to
say she's something odd she might be a lizard.
Adam Curry: Can I can I can I just interject one crazy yarn
connecting conspiracy datapoint tour, con Conrad black about a
month ago, maybe six weeks ago, was pardoned by President Trump.
Right. That was
John C. Dvorak: interesting. Red Black was that was interesting
railroaded. Anyway, so doesn't matter should have been
pardoned.
Adam Curry: All of a sudden, it's just the timing of it is
always fun. Well, her relationship
John C. Dvorak: to Conrad Black was dubious because she never
worked for any magazines that I know of. She may I know she may
have worked for the post for a while. And then she quit. But
she comes over here and she she kind of because she's got a
British. She's British. And she kept her accent. She never even
tried to get rid of it. She became one of the one of the
many British women over here that are that fit right into the
upper classes structure. Check. She wrote a whole book on the
astor's or these long article. And she fit right in, she has
the look, she has the perfect kind of a dead socialite Look.
Adam Curry: She's also she up until recently, she had a
nonprofit that worked with the United Nations. And she's in all
kinds of just like Angelina Jolie's special United Nations
programs. And there's the woman who's the direct descendant of
Queen Victoria, who's on her board, and she's really in the
British society.
John C. Dvorak: But it's not the British society. It's the
American American British side. Yes, the outcome of our social
thing and the British are so welcome because they fit right
in. And even though in Britain, she was a newspaper girl. She
did a bunch of books and they're all the books tend to be
celebrities. You really, if anything, is a celebrity
reporter. She roamed in and out of various kinds of, you know,
celebrities circles, and met a lot of people and she would run
into julaine. Just Layne Maxwell numerous times, but she wasn't
hanging out with her. There's no evidence of that. And there's
some mi six connection that happened in 2011 According to
amazing Polly but she was long not even associating with her
husband by that time very well described in her discussion in
the in the madmen the magazine article that she wrote for The
Daily Mail about her divorce so so what happens is this Jeffrey
Epstein thing breaks and she did have a couple of pieces of about
the girls in that article all of a sudden out of the blue now the
question in my mind is a she is so out of the blue she says why
warned everybody she is something of a phony she's she's
a she's kind of like a kitty Kelly type of writer who maybe
makes things up now and again, very well structured writer. If
she wanted to really bring out anything in 2003 when she ran
that article, she could have shopped it someplace else. Else
if she wanted to. She didn't know Ronan Farrow didn't put up
with no for an answer over and over again. So she wasn't that
serious about these. She had some information if
Adam Curry: it radiance, if it was even true at all. Maybe not
just her words, saying that they cut it out.
John C. Dvorak: It's possible but Graydon Carter did come out
with a statement. Okay. He says that that she wasn't a well
presented and he just thought it should be cut out. So he did cut
it out. So there's not she didn't make that up necessarily.
But the circumstances of him cutting it out may have been due
according to her when I have some clips are bitching about
it, only now bitching about it? I think the following happened,
personally from looking at her career and what kind of a writer
she is and who she hangs out with and her celebrity status
and a certain in that social structure that we had no
nothing. We have no idea. Those things show up in town and
country, the people that are these parties, those photos are
all over the place. It's like the Palm Beach, Florida social
set. I don't know who any of those people are, but they all
seem to know each other. If I believe the following happening
with her, no matter what everybody says. She wrote this
piece on on Epstein. And she got some stuff that she had some
hints about the 2002 piece in 2000. She wrote it to those two
around in 2003. That was cut out was turned into a financial
piece, which admits and it was seemed to be written that way to
begin with. Des all of a sudden this thing breaks the Epstein
stuff. And she says, and people have to say, Look, you did a
whole piece on this guy. You've you know, this just Layne
Maxwell. There's photos of her with you. What did you what,
what? What? And so she's covering her ass? Yes. Just by
saying Oh, yeah, well, I had this and I did. She was
clueless. You said celebrity reporter. She didn't know that
Epstein was running anything but
Adam Curry: hold on when I so all I'm saying is why would she
10 Nine years after the fact even want to be? Okay, so
there's no evidence they were partying, but they were at the
same parties and taking pictures together. I know how it works.
The photographer comes by said, Hey, take a picture because
you're talking. And then you almost know two or three people
you stay. But why? Why if she knows all this, and I have a
clip from her, just yesterday. She shared She sure did. Then in
2011 2014. There's pictures of her with Maxwell. Of course, she
knew that. Then she writes about it.
John C. Dvorak: She writes about everything after the fact the
issue here is what happened in 2003. Where she where she got
her piece was like no, so
Adam Curry: I'll be quiet. But I disagree. In 2009 She definitely
knew that Maxwell was involved because that's in the document.
She you know, all of the accomplices were protected by
the deal that was signed. She knew it in 2009 like everybody
else. That's my point yet I love 2011 2014 She's taken pictures
whether that's my point. She knew it in 2009. We knew it in
2000 it was it's been in the press since 2009.
John C. Dvorak: Well, okay, we knew in 2009 She knew in 2000 So
what what does that got to do with her being a bad actor mi
six.
Adam Curry: I didn't say that. But no, that's
John C. Dvorak: what your your buddy famous, Polly said.
Adam Curry: But I didn't say that. I'm talking. I'm just
going for simple stuff.
John C. Dvorak: Let's go to amazing Polly, and to talk
Unknown: about what led up to Epstein's most recent arrest.
Adam Curry: Actually, sorry.
John C. Dvorak: Stay with that Amy interviews Ward two okay to
talk about
Unknown: what led up to Epstein's most recent arrest and
what comes next we're joined by Vicki Ward, an investigative
journalist who profiled Jeffrey Epstein for Vanity Fair in 2003.
And a piece headlined The Talented Mr. Epstein, the
magazine's editor at the time Graydon Carter. Cut out the
testimonies of Two young women, Epstein allegedly molested who
had spoken toward on the record one of them underage Ward wrote
about what happened with her. Epstein reporting for The Daily
Beast in an article headlined, I tried to warn you about sleazy
billionaire Jeffrey Epstein in 2003. Welcome back to Democracy
Now. It's great to have you with us, Becky. Thanks. So for people
who do not understand who this man is, you refer to his
billionaire hedge fund manager, Jeffrey Epstein, who is he and
what do you believe he is being charged with right now the
indictment is about to be opened.
So I don't think he's a hedge fund manager. He is certainly
very wealthy. There's great mystery as to how he actually
made his money. He tells people that he advises he takes a
percentage and he advises billionaires only. I won't take
anyone poor Than A Billionaire. And he takes a cut, which adds
up to a lot of money. This this when I investigated him in 2002.
really turned out to be untrue. What was interesting was that
the man who claimed to have sort of taught Jeffrey many financial
tricks, and who claims to this day that Jeffrey has his money
as a gentleman by the name of Steve Hoffenberg, who went to
jail for 20 years for committing the biggest Ponzi scheme pre
Bernie Madoff. Okay,
John C. Dvorak: I didn't even know about that. So she had that
uncovered. Which doesn't surprise me it gets go to clip
to
Unknown: Tiki Ward, you were doing the first pieces back into
this, like how old are your twin daughters right now?
Twins on 16 2016
years old. So that is very significant. Because you were
pregnant at the time you were doing this piece? Yes. Can you
describe what happened to you? When you wrote the speech? You
spoke to Jeffrey Epstein
multiple times, multiple times, he wheeled out, you know all
these important bankers and academics and finances to talk
to me and he would call me all the time, but he would threaten
me, he would talk and then he would say, you know, Vicki, if I
don't like this piece, you know, something's gonna happen to your
unborn children. You know, and he would sort of say it in it,
you know, lightly. But, you know, I went to the magazines
General Counsel at that you actually put security on them in
the NICU. And then when they came early, he had asked me What
hospital they were going to be born at. So I actually did put
security on them. They were born two months prematurely.
John C. Dvorak: So that was kind of creepy. Yes. And so then we
go to the last part where she discusses the Graydon Carter.
Incident
Unknown: closable he had his girlfriend, Glenn Maxwell, who
very charming well educated British sort of socialite around
New York,
very significant shoes, the daughter of Robert Glover, owner
of The New York Daily News.
So Glenn was the one who phoned this these young woman's mother
to reassure her how safe they would be. And because of course,
the poor mother now blames herself terribly. For what
happened. And, you know, I talked to there are numerous
people, the artists, Eric Fischl was a friend of the older
daughters.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. Couple of things you uh, you want to back
up? Where's
Adam Curry: where she in the timeline, by the way, okay.
John C. Dvorak: She said a timeline of two girls who, who
Epstein was was assault. They were younger, that wanted to go
to college, and he was going to pay for their college and just
lane. He went, but he hid they had to move in and do stuff to
him. And TJ's Lane was the the salesperson who taught the moms
into letting his
Adam Curry: right but when when did that happen? When did she
know about it? That's all I'm curious about is that
John C. Dvorak: this is right from the 2003 era. Okay, yeah.
Okay. So she, she so this was the so she knew back then
supposedly that she has a tell I think, is she there's some stuff
I think she's she's in the same category again as kitty Kelly
and some of these other Michael Wolf is in this category of very
famous kind of celebrity writers who do make it known to make
stuff up. Michael Wolfe has got all these Trump books a lot of
this stuff is bullshit. Yeah. Yes, if not all of it, but that
Vicki's in the same category of writer and I think her tell is
the use of the word and twice in a row instead of saying and she
says and and we're interested I think two or three times in the
piece
Unknown: friend Gila Maxwell, who very charming, well educated
British sort of socialite, around your very significant
shoes, the daughter of Robert, owner of The New York Daily
News.
So Glenn was the one who found this, these young woman's mother
to reassure her how safe they would be. And because of course,
the poor mother now blames herself terribly for what
happened. And, you know, I talked to them, numerous people,
the artists, Eric Fischl, was a friend of the older daughters.
They all verified they remembered them to help these
two women recounting their trauma at the time. So brave,
we'll go through this and then to suddenly find at the 11th
hour that somehow Jeffrey got to the editor of the magazine. This
story was being pulled
I registering and he came into Conde Nast offices. He came
in, I had had no I was not told about this, he came in. He had a
private meeting with the magazine's then editor Graydon
Carter, after which, I was informed, that graden believed
Jeffrey Epstein I was told that Jeffrey Epstein had told graden
that he was quote unquote, sensitive about the women. And
so they would be pulled from the story. So now be a business
story. And a business that was a business story that explained
that Jeffrey Epstein was not who he claimed to be in his
professional life. But but the very powerful, awful stories of
what happened to these women got taken out which and and
I and these girls, are they involved?
Adam Curry: The the tell was after she lies. That's the way
I'm reading it. Which
John C. Dvorak: I can't say for sure, one way or the other. I
mean, there's some truth in whatever she's talking about. I
think she's maybe, you know, for example, the Graydon Carter
story itself, which may be worthy and and comes from
afterwards.
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's that's kind of what I thought, that's
kind of kind of halide very dubious
John C. Dvorak: into her party card or is considered one of the
greatest editors in the history of magazine. Oh, well,
Adam Curry: that's suspicious right there, then.
John C. Dvorak: Wow, this is not susceptible to pressure. There
was some reports, just the story. She's telling me he's not
actually accurate. And Epstein didn't show up to talk to
Carter. He showed up with it with a bunch of high powered
lawyers telling him look, you can run this if you want, but
you're going to be sued out of existence as a magazine. And I
don't think your bosses at vanity at Conde Nast are going
to be too appreciative of the kinds of troubles you're gonna
cause if you run this piece, and
Adam Curry: so much for being one so much for being one of the
best editors. What kind of pushy editor is that
Unknown: guy who's smart. Let's listen to her
Adam Curry: tell again.
Unknown: But but the very powerful, awful stories of what
happened to these women got taken out which and and I and
these
girls, are they involved with the case that's being open today
where he's being brought into Manhattan court?
I don't know I have heard it. I have not confirmed that. I have.
One sources told me that possibly they are. Which
obviously, which for me would be 16 years later, 16 years later,
because one of the things that has haunted me is that there I
was trying to expose this man in 2003 and the original, the first
FBI investigation, the one that got neutered by Alexander Acosta
didn't begin until 2006. So it's always been on my conscience,
that for three years, he molested hundreds of sort of
helpless, poor women who were in no position to fight back
against him.
Adam Curry: I just want to go back to because you made a
pretty interesting statement. That Graydon Carter is one of
the great ALL TIME magazine editors I'm paraphrasing but
that's how it came across. Should this guy not be hanging
his head in shame for rejecting one of the biggest stories of
our lifetime? should not be taken down a notch or
John C. Dvorak: two. It was his comment. No, not necessarily.
Because he wrote it down. I like that list. It's rock solid.
Adam Curry: Well, I'd never saw the original so I don't know.
John C. Dvorak: Well, he didn't she wrote it and I wonder if it
was rock solid. His claim is simple. To story was not rock
solid. And it when you're an editor at that level with a
magazine at this which is a high paying magazine, I mean this is
not this is the big leagues is the major leagues. Everything
has to be pretty much batten down. The hatches have to be
batten down. You can't put anything out there that is going
to so cause?
Adam Curry: Did Amy try to move this towards someone else? Did
she try to pin it on Trump while she was having this
John C. Dvorak: conversation? She but yeah, it's Trump wanting
to make sure Trump was actually the editor,
Adam Curry: I want to make sure it's Democracy Now we're
listening to and not some fake program. All right.
John C. Dvorak: So is that the end of that clip?
Adam Curry: Yes, I have a a. And, and a, I have a current
clip from Vicki Ward, who is now a correspondent from July of
this year, right. But I have one from, like this morning.
Unknown: And now what has led to these charges of sex
trafficking, you know, of teenagers. This is part of that
big network.
It is part of the big network. And I think you know, Frederica,
that what? So what had so many people interested in on the edge
of their seats about this? What would have been Jeffrey
Epstein's trial? But that still really matters is the trial, if
you like of the ecosystem, because don't forget the
original indictment talked about a conspiracy. There have been
many other important powerful names brought up in connection
with this case, former President Bill Clinton, the lawyer, Alan
Dershowitz, the financier, Leon black, les Wexner. And the
retailer last week saying, you know, I gave Jeffrey Jeffrey
Epstein power of attorney, but I discovered in 2007, he stole
millions and millions from from me, but in which But it begs the
question, then why did Leslie Wexner not go to the authorities
that, and I think that all but the fact that the case, still is
going to sort of go forward means that, that all the people
connected to it, after all, it was a conspiracy. should still
back that
Adam Curry: up for a second. There's been no official word
that the case is go this was yesterday, no official word, the
cases going forward, she states out as fact fact
Unknown: that the case still is going to sort of go forward
means that that all the people connected to it, after all, it
was a conspiracy. should still think that they're going to be
questioned
while the attorney as some of the attorneys for these accusers
have said that even in his death, they will continue to
pursue avenues to find those responsible, whether there are
co conspirators you mentioned you know, Maxwell, whose name
you know, appears but that this case is not dead because Jeffrey
Epstein
Adam Curry: is telling us to say something. I'm this reading it
now. You can hear. This is Frederica Wilson. I think,
Frederica Wilson. I think it was named on CNN. She's an airhead
she you can hear them telling her what to say or not to say
Unknown: they're a co conspirators you mentioned Dino
Maxwell, whose name you know appears but that this case is
not dead because Jeffrey Epstein is for now. Right Vicki Ward
John C. Dvorak: Another thing you're noticing is that and I
have a clip from Vicki Ward from 2007, which is the earliest
thing I can find. She has developed this kind of social
light stammering that apparently the reason she has it is because
she caught it is like a disease. Because when you hear in 2007
She doesn't have it. She has it now. And it's so contagious that
this woman that is interviewing her is now picking it up. I'll
play here she stammering
Adam Curry: here's the 2007 clip. Let's
Unknown: get a background first on Brooke Astor. Tell us a bit
about who she is, is and how she became so wealthy and such a
great philanthropist
Bricasti came into her fortune, actually, almost by accident.
She was married three times fast. Very unhappily. Next to
the love of her life. A man named Buddy Marshall and her
young son Tony from her first marriage actually took his
stepfather's surname Tony Marshall. And when she was in
her 40s, she found herself widowed and that was when she
really got to know the very, very wealthy Vincent Astor, who
was a grumpy, pretty miserable man. Their marriage lasted five
years. And when Vince untasted died, two broadcasters enormous
surprise, he left her all his money. And she said about
carving a character for herself that really didn't exist before
and hasn't existed since. She gave away more money to more
charities than I think New York has ever seen. And she did so in
a star Oh, that was unprecedented at unrivaled
Adam Curry: Oh, where was the stammering none zero. Hmm,
interesting.
John C. Dvorak: Now another thing that does cause stammering
is unsure unsure in this writing or lying or talking about
something she knows the ASTER story and then went on NPR and
just came right out of probably isn't No, I still think this is
a covered that she wanted to reinsert herself into the story
because she did write that piece in 2003. There's no doubt about
it. There it is. But she's been kind of out of the picture
regarding it. And now she gets it gets a gig on CNN and she
gets herself back in the news. And she's floating around, she
gets to promote her book, which her newest book, which is the
Kushner Inc book, which is another kind of a slam against
Jared Kushner and each she obviously I don't know if she's
running into her New York in the party scene or whatever. She
hates Ivanka. Whoo. Yeah, I do have a clip of that. But let's
finish this this thing you've got where you get to stammering
going back and forth every which way.
Adam Curry: And it was over it was the end. Oh, it's over. Oh,
I couldn't tell. Sorry.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, but here she is. This is
Adam Curry: well, hold on one second home. So in the most
recent report, she mentioned every other possible she keeps
saying it's a conspiracy. This is a conspiracy. The fact that
that the other people will be investigated. She states at US
fact, then yeah, so I'm just saying she may be a great
writer, but she's pretty shitty, because I don't I don't know
about being a fact yet. Certainly not yesterday, and she
doesn't mention Trump. Which is either a glaring mistake or
John C. Dvorak: she's gonna get keep that gig on CNN. I bet
she's not for more than six months.
Adam Curry: If she if she's not talking about Trump being
complicit, no, it's not going to work for her. And yet she
doesn't. She does. So this book about Kushner Inc, which I have
not read it I I've seen the cover. But I know what Kushner
is doing with when read I don't know about anything else and
except for all the stories. So she does not like Kushner and
ignore Ivanka Kushner.
John C. Dvorak: She doesn't like Ivanka mostly and I don't know.
But you can tell it in her voice. She discusses this on
MSNBC when they're talking about her book. And you can tell it
her voice her some disdain. And I'm not sure what it is. It may
be the possibility. Excuse me, it may be the possibility that
she has a British, British what just it just has a dislike for
her. That's that's that's visceral. You know, you've had
that, you know, somebody just really don't like her. And she
just slams her in this piece. I thought this was quite an
interesting night. I don't know where she got this information.
Or he even if it's true. It may have been picked up by research.
I don't think it was an intelligence source. I just
don't see it. I've looked at because I had to hit. I had the
sense that you might have been going after as an intelligence.
Adam Curry: Why are you stammering This is worrying me
now. I gotta get get.
Unknown: Let's just play this clip that at the end of the day,
the President's president's great Achilles heel is actually
his daughter. That he had said to John Kelly, when when General
Kelly became Chief of Staff, that he really wants them gone.
You know, he doesn't like it when people other than himself,
draw negative attention to the White House. It's fine if he
tweets something and that that creates a firestorm. It's not
fine. If somebody else reflects poorly on him. He hated their
misuse of private emails because that was something that he'd
gone after Hillary Clinton with. So he said to General Kelly, you
know, get rid of them. They waffle on as you send them back
to New York, make their life so miserable, they want to quit.
And, you know, General Kelly was successful. If you look at the
period when he was Chief of Staff, Jared and Ivanka, were
very, very quiet. During that period. It's the president who
was who couldn't pull the trigger. And I think that that
shows that ultimately, it Ivanka moreso than Jared Jared is there
because he's her husband. But the president cannot say no to
his daughter, which means that this White House is essentially
a family business.
Adam Curry: She's got some of the talking points there. I
liked it. Some of them are good,
John C. Dvorak: huh? She's no slouch. But
Adam Curry: let's let's move forward to this year and move
away from from Vicki ward. I don't think we're gonna get much
more except keeping her eye on her and I still want to know
where Magellan she is. Elaine Maxwell is what of course, hours
after this reporting came out. We were all I was kind of
waiting for okay, what are we going to hear from from the
President? And here's the chip Todd Chuck. Gregory Todd talking
about the Trump tweets. A few hours
Unknown: after the news of Epstein's death, President Trump
waded in sharing an unfounded conspiracy theory speculating
about how the financier may have died. The President of the
United States retweeted a conservative commentator and
comedian who wrote quote, how does this happened? Jeffrey
Epstein had information on Bill Clinton. And now he's dead.
Again. The President retweeted that. Chuck Todd is NBC
political director.
Adam Curry: A bit mind you a comedian, but okay. And
moderator
Unknown: of Meet the press junket. Morning. I wish you and
I couldn't sit here and say we're surprised that the
President retweeted that. But right, right away jumping to a
conspiracy theory about his opponent in the last election
and his family.
Willie, think about what Donald Trump has done to American mass
communication over the last two years. I quite frankly, am
appalled and embarrassed by the amount of responsible people
that have jumped right into a conspiracy theory on this. Yes,
the President is is sort of leading the irresponsible charge
here. But there's a lot of people on social media I mean,
John C. Dvorak: the tweets this was just a classic Trump retweet
so what it's not anything more than that. He thought it was
funny. I thought it was funny. Yeah. These guys think it's
funny. Well, why
Adam Curry: don't you ask your lib Joe friends I'm sure they're
all over this this in the same way the Chuck Todd is
John C. Dvorak: of course is too seriously these people are
idiots now,
Adam Curry: this morning you probably saw this you know shear
blue is this as kind of an outgrowth of media matters. And
they it's a techno experts. It's trolls. It's trolls who go
around and troll stuff and mainly to troll the takedown
advertisers of you know, their canceled people canceled
culture. The first thing I didn't know is that David Brock
is no longer running it. This is new Alison Gervin is the new CEO
of Cher blue. And he's an NBC News.
John C. Dvorak: Brock was running Media Matters never
share blue.
Adam Curry: Oh, yes. Oh, yes. It's it's it's an outgrowth of,
of Media Matters. Share blue is big. That's, that's where that's
where a lot of money goes into that. And so I did not know that
this guy had taken over just last month. And he headed MBCs
NBC News is business tech and Mozia what's his name? Allison a
ll i s o n Gervin G I R V ins guys that guy? Yeah, it's a guy.
I'm sure he's really touched. And they had a message for their
for their trolls, which they call stalwarts. The share blue
stalwarts, and I'll read this so this is what goes out to the
online techno expert trolls who are supposed to go and do
something and they It's looks like it's pretty well organized
outfit. stalwarts by now most of you will have seen the recent
news regarding the death of Jeffrey Epstein already the news
is being used by far right activists to spread smears and
conspiracy theories on social Yeah, I wish I could talk like
that on social
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, well if you if you could talk like that
you'd be selling merch.
Adam Curry: Despite being both harmful and untrue on tour, it
says but I'm sure he meant untrue. There's clearly a wow
that's a tell isn't it? If you misspell untrue there's clearly
a very concerted effort from the right to reach the public
consciousness as you can see on your dash dash the past few
hours have seen a rapid swell in Far Right disinformation. So
they have some kind of dashboard known as a dash capital D where
they can see I guess stats on the the right wing trolls. I'd
love to see some of this. I get the dash as such. We need as
many. This is well written. as such. We need as many stalwarts
as we can to counteract this promote our own messaging and
discredit the claims being made. You can find the keynotes
regarding Jeffrey Epstein at at your dash and navigate to the
appropriate conversation. As this is Brett a breaking story,
the keynotes, I guess as their talking points are currently
bare bones any stalwarts who can help and adding to them would be
greatly appreciated. It is the utmost importance we act fast
and face the smears head on with the correct messaging currently,
the messaging you so it says currently that is colon do not.
So this is what the dash says you should do not do do not deny
the possibility of foul play. Do not excuse Epstein of his
potential crimes or the doubt or doubt the validity of his guilt.
Do not link to the current Aren't court documents regarding
Epstein or use them in constructing your argument?
Because Boy, that would be crazy. However do Wow. Yeah.
Isn't that great? I do sympathize with the potential
victims of Epstein do remind people of the prior allegations
of President Trump. Talking subject 14 C. do remind people
of Trump's prior quotes regarding Epstein and their
proven interactions subject 34 Live article currently bare
bones do remind people of the power that the President of the
United States holds in comparison to members of the
public and five as always, roll con, uppercase R O L c o n. Once
again, we need as many stalwarts active as possible. So role con
is not that hard to figure out once you search around. It means
play the role of conservatives so pretend to be conservative.
Ly use these talking points don't point to the original
document and implicate Trump. That's great. That's well that's
it. This guy comes from NBC News. So I I'm all in I think
now let's with that in mind. Let's listen to this article
again.
Unknown: A few hours after the news of Epstein's death,
President Trump waded in sharing an unfounded conspiracy theory
speculating about how the financier may have died. The
President of the United States retweeted a conservative
commentator and comedian who wrote quote, how does this
happen? Jeffrey Epstein had information on Bill Clinton. And
now he's dead. Again. The President retweeted that. Chuck
Todd is NBC News political director.
Adam Curry: Okay, let's see if Chad can get all the dewpoints
right. And moderator
Unknown: of Meet the press junket. Morning. I wish you and
I couldn't sit here and say we're surprised that the
President retweeted that. But right, right away, jump into a
conspiracy theory about his opponent in the last election
and his family
will think about what Donald Trump has done to American mass
communication over the last two years, I quite frankly, and
appalled and embarrassed by the amount of responsible people
that have jumped right into a conspiracy. This
Adam Curry: may be a point for remind people of the power of
the president united states holds in comparison, I think
that may be Can you
John C. Dvorak: can you ring the bell when you get your theory on
this, by the way, by the way? Yes. Good catch on the talking
points. And it's pathetic. Easy to identify a Chuck Todd as as a
stooge a role con.
Unknown: Yes, the President is is sort of leading the
irresponsible charge here. But there's a lot of people on
social media. I mean, it is it is to the point where the I
think it's way ahead of any investigation. Here. I think it
just shows you how particularly the president and the way he
sort of warped information attack, the press, fake news,
conspiracy theories, all of that stuff, which he's embraced over
the years. I think the fact is, my biggest concern is that you
can tell this is a virus that is spreading. So let's set that
aside with what the president did there. Because this is a
this is that's a horrendous virus. As for Epstein? Look, I
think you're seeing bipartisan outrage. We are you know, we
have some senators who have been so mute. On other issues, they
see the Epstein thing, almost as an opportunity to say, Oh, I get
to be outraged about something and I don't have to make Donald
Trump mad. So you're going to have some of those people coming
after the Justice Department here. But you're also going to
have others that are going to come after the Justice
Department for what they believe. So I think Bill Barr is
in the hot seat, the entire justice system is in the hot
seat on this one there.
We'd like to think the President United States would tamp down
some of the conspiracy theories. But again, he's elevating them.
Adam Curry: Well, they didn't do a very good job on the talking
points. He's
John C. Dvorak: not elevating anything else. He just, he just
mentioned that. Epstein was a buddy with Bill Clinton. He's
trolling where's the conspiracy theory. He didn't mention the
hit list. He's doing anything.
Adam Curry: And he's trolling these guys. By the way. mental
health and suicide is of course, a serious business and we're
making very light of it. Here on the show, we need to talk a
little bit more about some specific mental health issues
that have been in the news recently. So I did want to bring
this short public service announcement to everybody.
Unknown: Are you at risk of accidental suicide? If you are,
then this advice may help avoid police custody, or any
protective custody or incarceration. Do not spend any
time alone in a high rise apartment. Avoid small aircraft,
hot tubs skiing, canoeing, long drives on lonely mountainous
roads, or simply being in a remote place. Always vote for
your Democratic nominee in federal, state and municipal
elections. Should anyone start up an awkward conversation.
Simply smile politely and say I'm with her. Follow these steps
to reduce your chance of accidental suicide today.
Adam Curry: Brought to you by your local no agenda affiliate
station.
John C. Dvorak: Exactly. Yeah, good. Good advice.
Adam Curry: I love that someone scrolled in chalk in front of
the Epstein mansion in Manhattan. X o x o Hillary and
Bill.
Unknown: I'm sick people, man.
John C. Dvorak: I did not see that.
Adam Curry: It's very funny.
Okay, do we have any? Well, I guess the only thing for me and
I don't know what you have is like I will do
John C. Dvorak: have we were Mrs. Layne Maxwell thing.
Adam Curry: Yes. And then I will say we would be remiss if we
didn't listen to Putin annex take.
John C. Dvorak: I didn't think he had much to say in that
particular last one. I thought it was a couple of amazing Polly
clips which I could gladly quit now let's I could net but
amazing, Polly. I don't listen to her. I don't think she's that
good. I think she's, uh, she invites associative kinds of
condemnations and I think she's full of shit with a lot of stuff
because there's just just not accurate. But the person I do
like, who I think is does do nice little documentaries on the
YouTube. And that is the truth factory talking cat. Yes.
Adam Curry: The truth factory talking cat is pretty good. Yes.
John C. Dvorak: Yes. Well, here's her. Here's the talking
cats little thing on Maxwell were the target jizz lane.
Unknown: I believe the real brains behind the entire
operation was gesslin as this was not our first rodeo
surrounding herself with pedophiles. In 1986. She was
allegedly caught in compromising sexual photos with former
British MP Harvey Proctor, who liked to spank naked little boys
with a riding crop. From there she attached herself to Epstein
and his money becoming the handler of the young sexual
victims in just like her father, Maxwell and Epstein were both
likely working for the Mossad. This theory was made credible in
Acosta's comments when he said he'd cut the non prosecution
deal with one of Epstein's attorneys, because he had been
told to back off that Epstein was above his pay grade, I was
told that Epstein belonged to intelligence until leave it
alone. But what would intelligence services want with
a disgusting sex offender? Probably the same thing that the
Mossad got by filming Robert Maxwell sexual exploits. They
would use agents of influence like Epstein to blackmail rich
and powerful people. Jeffrey Epstein was running a honey
trap. In a 2006 court filing Palm Beach Police noted that a
search of Epstein's home uncovered two hidden cameras. In
a 2015 civil lawsuit filed by Jane Doe number three who is
likely actually Virginia Roberts scene here with Caitlin and
Prince Andrew. She accused Maxwell of having recruited her
in 1999 when she was only a minor. After Maxwell introduced
her to Epstein she was groomed by the two of them for his
pleasure. She asserted that Maxwell Epstein had trafficked
her and other girls often at sex parties hosted by Epstein at his
homes, and alleged that Epstein wired his mansion with hidden
cameras secretly recording orgies involving his prominent
friends and underage girls.
John C. Dvorak: And now
you know, just she just brings it in me sees Lee she discusses
the woman here but the one thing I got a kick out of was this
little other thing, the honey pot clip where this this is the
kind of thing that somebody who has any brains probably would
have done if if there was presented to them, especially
the way it was presented. This is a story about a journalist
who went to one of the parties and I think these cameras which
we've discussed on other shows, were used mostly for the
purposes of getting other people to shut up not necessarily the
click of pedophiles, which I still think was a kind of just a
club as opposed to all blackmailed. I don't think
they're necessarily wanted you I mean, they blackmailed because
they all know each other, but I don't think it was the intent to
blackmail them as it was to blackmail other people to shut
them up. And this little anecdote coming up, I thought
was very on the money.
Unknown: Jeffrey Epstein's job was simple to be a pimp and to
find elite people in the US political and economic
industries and compromise them. Journalist Eric Margolis even
said when meeting I've seen for the first time, soon after I
walked into the entrance of Epstein's mansion about Laura
asked me, Would you like an intimate massager by a pretty
young girl to seemed out of place and weird to me, so I
swiftly declined as an old observer of intelligence
affairs. To me this offer rekted the old honey trap, a tactic to
ensnare and blackmail people. That was old when Babylon was
young, a discreet room with a massage table lubricants and no
doubt cameras stood ready off the main law Maybe this footage
was likely use to blackmail leads afterwards for hush money
once you have that money you can buy more mansions, cars, more
girls and have massive parties where you can connect to even
more influential perverts that you can extort to keep growing
this disgusting empire.
Adam Curry: This was in a in a in an article I think I've read
this,
John C. Dvorak: I guess Yeah, I don't think so. Yeah, this was a
guy
Adam Curry: who wrote about this experience verbatim not have to
look it up. Look, the cat didn't go into the mansion, we know
that. That would have been very the talking cat would have been
a surprise. Now it's too bad that Epstein is dead, extracted,
gone, whatever. Although I still want to bring this important
piece of information. We had a we replayed a recording of the
Epstein deposition of 2009 Here's a reminder. Yes. Do you
solemnly swear the
Unknown: testimony you're about to give will be the truth, the
whole truth and nothing but the truth is to help you. Yes, I
do. Would you please give us your name? Jeffrey Epstein. Is
it true, sir, that you have what's been described as an egg
shaped penis? Form the egg and that projection, Your Honor.
First of all, that these types of questions are not only
argumentative,
Adam Curry: but let's get to the second version of the question.
Unknown: You continue with this type of question Allah during
the deposition.
Sir, according to the police department's probable cause
affidavit One witness described, your penis is oval shaped and
claim when erect. It was thick towards the bottom that was thin
and small towards the head portion and called it egg
shaped. Those are not my words, I apologize. But as Mr. Gerron
as Mr. cretinous stated that this is
I've got information man, new shit has come
Adam Curry: to light. Yes, the no agenda producers never cease
to amaze me with their with their experience, background and
information they're willing to share from producer Eric we
received. Adam and John enjoyed the clip on the egg shaped
Epstein penis. That's always a good opener for an email. I feel
I feel I might be able to shed some light on this. I was a
professional peers and body modifier in several underground
communities in the late 90s and early 2000s. The term we had for
guys back then was milk bottle dicks. Because their penises
looked like a milk bottle. These guys were penis pump addicts,
they would use a vacuum pressure penis pump to enlarge their
dicks. The anatomy of the penis is such that the shaft expands
at a different rate than the head making the base and shaft a
lot longer and thicker than the head. My guess we got a pumper
on her hands. And I thought this is very interesting information.
Because for sure I'm never going to buy a vacuum pump now. And I
recommend no one do this. Wow, I can totally see that guy being a
pumper. Yeah,
John C. Dvorak: the more it gets better, the more better on the
no agenda show.
Adam Curry: Should I should have had this one ready. The more the
more you know, here it is. That's the one the more you
know, in the morning. All right. Do you want to go to this
botanic clip quick. We don't have to do every single
John C. Dvorak: magenic thing and then and then we'll be
Adam Curry: done for now. Right? Yeah. Okay. So and pathetic.
emailed me this link. He said, I want to I want to record a long
interview with you. So he's got something to say. And I'm going
to talk to you on Tuesday. And I'll record it and we'll see
what comes out of it. But he his quote was his quote was I really
want to talk to you about this. Let's record it. Many more going
down. But I'm interested when he says this, you know, I have no
problem talking to
John C. Dvorak: our friend sealed indictments. Okay,
Adam Curry: it many 1000s of unsealed indictments. Okay,
John C. Dvorak: what are sealed, sealed indictments?
Adam Curry: Who knows? By the time I talk to him, it may be
unsealed. What do you know? Hi,
Unknown: this is Dr. Chuck and let's talk about Jeff Epstein.
Suppose it's suicide. Whether he committed suicide or he's dead,
or they took him out of jail. It's really not relevant. What
happened today with Jeff Epstein is a travesty of justice and the
law, but also of our intelligence system. Several
weeks ago, on July 15 16th, I saw the story being developed
where Epstein was decided that he was going to commit suicide
and he had a rope around his neck and had marks on his neck
and there was a member in his cell which was absurd. Of
course, Epstein was in his cell. Now by himself his dynamic is
such that he would never commit suicide. He's too narcissistic
bombast. They get treated guys like this. They don't commit
suicide.
Adam Curry: Whatever you think of Puranic he does have the
credentials to be able to make a claim like
John C. Dvorak: that. And he's not the only one making that
claim. Who else has made this claim? A lot of people have said
that he's two narcissists. He's not he he's not suicidal,
suicidal stances.
Adam Curry: Although I was reading a report somewhere else
that claimed that all pedophiles, they commit more
suicide than anybody, especially pedophiles that have pedophiles
who abused boys. I don't know where that article is. But you
know, so there's conflicting information out there. I saw
that too. But Botanik has credentials in this area. So
unless he's bullshitting us I'm going
John C. Dvorak: to file commit suicide. So no, some don't for
some reason, and I think we can assume he's one of them.
Unknown: What we do is we take them out. And you remember what
I said a month ago, several months ago, he works for Mossad
and the CIA. Why? Because he compromised so many political
and economic figures, that it was important for all of you to
understand this wasn't just an individual. This is a system
that we funded and that we've been an alliance to the most
side and the Jewish Americans who are leading us
Adam Curry: that this was interesting. This glitch in the
YouTube video was in every version every single time I
looked at it, and the minute he's going to say something
about the Jews in America it and this is a glitch, it literally
glitches out. So I'm gonna have to ask him what he said when I
talked to Nick
John C. Dvorak: is Jewish, we should mention that. Yeah. So
Adam Curry: that's why he said you should never talk about this
the way I talk about it, only I can do that
Unknown: system that we funded, and that we've been an alliance
to the Mossad and the Jewish Americans who are leading us.
Jeffrey Epstein's, as I said to you is an operative. He's a poor
jerk of a low level Jewish guy who never amounted to anything
and was grandiose. The fact of the matter is that he had
compromised a lot of people using make belief, money and a
fictional background. What really is true is the following.
And most of you did not follow this. Two days ago, a member of
our military was appointed as Director of National
Intelligence. McGuire, a vice admiral of military
intelligence. Now, why is that important? And what does that
have to do with Epstein? Everybody wonders? The answer is
very simple. Military Intelligence, which I've been
part of for over four decades, is the only institution that we
can rely on that will not be compromised by the Mossad. In
turn, what happened is two days ago, Susan Brown, Gordon, who
was the deputy of Nat, a national intelligence behind
clapper and others, was not appointed to become director of
national intelligence. Now, why is that related to Epstein?
Because Susan Gordon is Jewish. And she was close to John
Brennan, who's close to the Mossad. So Trump, in his wisdom,
as crazy as people think was a fox in the henhouse. Now,
Adam Curry: I'm not exactly sure what pathetic is saying here. I
think what he means is that he the Trump is getting everyone
around him who's a potential problem away cutting all the
potential issues out, although I think you and I still have
questions as to who's writing his speeches, you know, possibly
putting in Nazi code words and other weird shit, that could
still be someone in the orbit. But I heard him say, I'm not one
of those famous on the way to the helicopter stand up things
on the on the White House lawn Tez. What do you think? Should I
should I appoint Sue? Should it be Sue? Yeah, you want to vet
her suit? So he was goading? Kind of to see what the response
was? I didn't get it at the time. So I guess that this is
distancing himself and everything from the CIA, who
apparently would be implicated with Mossad in this Epstein?
Platform? Almost.
John C. Dvorak: It was a given that Susan was going to get this
job. Oh, okay.
Adam Curry: So then there you go. There was a given by the
hierarchy of the system. Yeah.
John C. Dvorak: By the by the by the buzz by this system. Yeah.
All right. Yes, one of the shirt turn. You know, this, this
happens in government and everywhere. I mean, that's why
Biden is his turn. Let him beat the next guy. We continue to
Unknown: do exactly to go away from the CIA, and the civilian
intelligence and bring in military intelligence. So Susan
Gordon is out. John Brennan is out. The Obama people out the
Clintons didn't do this. This is far more sophisticated, but also
more awkward than you think. The reasoning goes as follows in the
intelligence community, I know the CIA very well and I know the
Mossad very well. They're not very bright when it comes to
creating a storyline like Jeff Epstein
Adam Curry: at this point. I like very much this is the part
of that I'm on board.
Unknown: Yes, they created this beast and they created this
incredible, you know, pedophilia ring. But what they didn't
understand and they couldn't come to any resolution was the
fact that, well, we can't explain the suicide and we'll
just say he's suicidal and he died in a cell by himself
committing suicide. That's called paradoxical intention.
What that means is that we're going to use the most absurd
concept and lecture people, the civilians run with it, as long
as we can label conspiracy theories. So on Wikipedia in the
New York Times, all they did was fall for this trap of
paradoxical intention where they said, Okay, it's a conspiracy
theory, the man killed himself in a cell which had no
capability to kill yourself. So who else was compromised? And
why was this so important to come out now? Governor DeSantis
of Florida, who was a JAG officer in the SEAL team in
Special Forces and fought overseas, decided he's going to
have a Florida investigation and a prosecution of the Attorney
General Jewish bag Berman, who was involved as well as the
police chief of Palm Beach who lied. Then we have a woman by
the name of Jennifer, who implicated Mrs. Maxwell also
implicated Prince Andrews of England now Andrews of England
was accused of sucking the tone of this 1415 Euro where they
whether he did or didn't do is not important. But the point of
fact is the Windsor family has always lied, cheated and was
corrupt. They're not Windsors. They're basically German. They
were pro Nazi Germany in the beginning of World War Two and
had it not been for Winston Churchill, we would have not had
a successful England. So what else was compromised?
Richardson? Bill Richardson in New Mexico, summers of Harvard,
a whole bunch of other individuals were compromised.
And as a result of that, the resolution had to be that
Epstein had committed suicide. In our business we say geese
excuse SEC use another one he who excuses himself accused as
himself. And also don't forget paradoxical intention. You all
will call this a conspiracy. Thank you and good night.
Adam Curry: I'm not sure other than okay, I've looked yes,
there's an investigation that DeSantis has called for and
apparently that's starting to bring out everybody who was
involved, uh, presumably also Acosta, everybody who wasn't
involved who was involved with the, with the light sentencing
and the deal with Epstein is now being investigated. And then of
course, we saw the documents which have been released. Will
there be more? I don't know. A Bill Richardson definitely.
There's some interesting stuff in his past. With the Clintons.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, yeah. Him and the Clintons are tight.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: And I think they wasn't he also involved in Haiti
somehow Richardson
John C. Dvorak: or that but I do. I will say this about what
Putin acts entire thesis where he kind of met hence the
possibility saying he's not important. But he hints at the
possibility and I think he's actually saying that that this
was an extraction. Yes. In an offhanded way, because you had
the right people to do it. You had the CIA and the Mossad. Do
you know and there's and this hospital in mid or is this kind
of in Midtown in Manhattan hospital I mean, the prison is
federal prison. And this all took place late in the middle of
the night and it's suspect and next thing you know this where's
the body? Yeah.
Adam Curry: Well, we know one thing identifying marks would be
the egg
John C. Dvorak: and nobody really wants to see that
Adam Curry: well, we await the many indictments to many people
who aren't the sealed indictments we we await the take
down of the swamp I am extremely excited not going to hold my
breath because otherwise it might look like a suicide but he
will
John C. Dvorak: not deny it guys we discussed this first started
up this is a not gonna nothing's gonna happen they they're
putting the kibosh on it the Chi Bosch one of the ways is
pronounced
Adam Curry: I will predict the following we will see at least
three more people go down one way or the other maybe heart
attack something else 3 million me people dropping yeah dropping
going away dropping disappearing whatever
John C. Dvorak: I I'm not gonna say I can argue against that
because somebody who knows something about that's not part
of it. But somebody in the in the prisoners somewhere that
knows what happened. And I would quit immediately and get out of
town. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Anyway, eyes on Geez lane, eyes on Vicki Ward and
eyes on the egg, everybody Keep
John C. Dvorak: I would further say just Elaine is going to
death is going to happen to her. Vicki Ward is going to hold her
job at CNN for a while and that'll be the end of her and
she'll be off to do another book. And nothing else would
come of it except the people's names who get dropped her
unfortunately mentioned in these documents which are going to be
released. Well, there's gonna be a lot of guilt by association.
Yes,
Adam Curry: yes. As long as we're not in there, then I'm
happy. Well,
John C. Dvorak: I'm pretty sure we're not
Adam Curry: with that. I'd like to thank you for your courage
and say in the morning to you the man who put the sea in the
Clinton body count John C. DeVore. AK
John C. Dvorak: in the morning do Mr. Adam Korean no morning
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the dameisha nights out there
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John C. Dvorak: Wait wait wait CSB is that the same guy?
Adam Curry: No. He put comics through blogger now he's changed
his name. You're
John C. Dvorak: telling me that CSB see as calm
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John C. Dvorak: We did get a big response. I think a lot of the
reason we did very we had a lot of executive and Associate
Executive producers we did have a couple meetups which helps but
I think the Epstein thing people know when something like this
crops up that they expect us to cover it. Okay, they get they
start thinking of us think of us when you think of I should think
of donating
Adam Curry: well this this adds interesting perspectives which
is we can get more more guys like this to disappear.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, well, good for the show. The app is good
for the show. Sir mittens of falsities leaves the list here
with $777 Wow. That's very nice. Damn jets have done my damnedest
to cut back on the verbosity this time. I do have a humble
request, though. I've wondered for weeks about the legitimacy
of dot connecting, conducted by George Webb and John O. Loughlin
on their respective YouTube feeds. I'm most interested
however, in Steve Botanics estimation of the research
presented on those channels. Any chance of playing proxy for me
uncle Adam? Especially before yesterday's paradoxical
intention, blurs the boundary between the dimensions and honor
of Dr. P. A closing quote, look, you already in a jackpot. I'm
trying to get you out of it. Thank you for your selective
curative karma to all producers douche and non douche alike.
Yes, sir. It's a foul city. Well, I
Adam Curry: feel we gave that to you just moments ago. So I think
we did that for you. And yeah, I watched George Webb. He does too
much. It's too long. That is there's too much George Webb
really. But he has credentials. And the web has credentials. I
don't know much about John Lachlan, but
John C. Dvorak: they're buddies that you web in Oloffson. In
fact, there's a couple of at least one time I've seen on the
same day together right next to each other talk and they tend to
be I'm not I can say that I'm not I don't know. Don't pay any
attention to either one personally
Adam Curry: Yeah, I certainly don't watch every one of the
episodes when someone points something out I'll go over but
it's in a way it's like the no agenda show where there's a lot
of referrals back to things that you kind of have to pay
attention but I think there's just too much is overload George
Webb is overload for me it's just too much content isn't like
every day he's doing something of an hour.
John C. Dvorak: So onwards your Patrick Well, hold
Adam Curry: on, you gotta gotta give out this. A curative fury
karma to all producers here we go.
Unknown: You've got
Adam Curry: carbide user mittens.
John C. Dvorak: Sir Patrick.
Sir Patrick of the enormous noggins and Clayton Ohio 56789.
Nice. This donation brings me to my account attached counting. If
it pleases the committee, I would like to claim the state of
Ohio as a protectorate. There's already a Baron of Ohio but it
looks like overlapping territories are allowed for
different levels. Yes, this is true. So you can have that. No
jingles needed but please throw in some karma for the city of
Dayton. All right.
Unknown: You've got karma
John C. Dvorak: to GQ, send a note to Adam from Hanover,
Maryland. No jingles no karma three or $33.67? Is there
anything in that? No. Do you have it?
Adam Curry: Yes, sir. GQ Baron of Maryland and my wife
Stephanie let it slip she had made a donation for my birthday
August 12 and the amount of $333 that would put her $333.67 away.
We made a donation of 3.33 in July 2018 from Dame hood, even
though she said knighthood in her email I'm making an
anonymous donation amount of 333 67 as a birthday donation to
her
John C. Dvorak: so she gets Dame she's not on the list. No,
Adam Curry: I guess this this email kind of slipped through
now it does she is she she does come in with the birthday shout
out to her husband so they didn't know this of each other.
Honey, someone spent the rent as very cute as That's love right
there. So yes.
John C. Dvorak: Now I like to turn to two people call each
other as out as douchebags on the same show that both donated
that's even
Adam Curry: better. Well, we're gonna hand out a big karma first
of all, and I think when you get to Stephanie's note more will
become clearer.
Unknown: You've got karma
John C. Dvorak: that sir, G sir de Fuca zotoh by kind of
America's heartland and Saudi Arabia 333 33 Oh, I'm sorry.
Yeah, we get no I'm sorry. I'm skipping around here seeing the
anonymous thing. And I admit I'd Mubarak from my expanded
holdings. The annual Hodge week has ended in Saudi Arabia's
enjoying a holiday week off work health and travel karma please
headed home to visit de melody and Lady Isabella very soon I'm
trying to get over something picked up a club 33 which we
posted in one of the newsletters a photo of that place? Genuine
club 33 in Saudi Arabia or in Egypt it was in Egypt needs
karma hit it home I had an awful fool oh it's because I'm a he
had apparently an awful falafel which is nice tile for a Shama
Adam Curry: keeper and I having dinner with them. And I think
next week or the week after? Yeah, the coming they're coming
through Texas and we're gonna have a dinner. So yeah, I'll
report on that for sure. And here's the world traveler, so
you should see what he's up to. Exactly. Here is the karma
request guys. Wait a minute. Karma. I thought we were done.
John C. Dvorak: I'm not done. I just stopped I just said awful
falafel. Then he says douchebags don't a keep on keepin on. And
thank you for your courage. David focus. Okay. No in Saudi
Arabia, Brian Holcomb, Palo Alto, California 333 33. He was
actually at the Berkeley meetup and he's dropped off a check and
left a note. And it's in longhand, so I have to warn in
advance the affiliates. I want to thank you for preserving my
sanity since I first began listening and 2015 I was going
through some tough times and I was searching for a bellwether
whether of stability it was an auto worker in Michigan I was
and desperately needed a change in my life and and can rear a
since you since those Ceridian days I have found my own keeper
and also just recently found a great job in the biotech field.
It took a while for the jobs karma to take but I am grateful
it has the move out of here to Silicon Valley has been out here
to Silicon Valley has been tough at times, but I have prevailed.
Tough in terms of costs. I like to call out Melk Mark Han. I
think it's Hanson's and Dustin bra Baum Baum Bau M as
douchebag. To double this is my third handwritten note and my
third install very good by the way, the handwriting the check
of 333 Tears does this make me a member of the 333 Club? Well, if
you donate on show 333 It would for good measure and all karma
to the future. Esquires I have also enclosed three pennies to
assist in their journey a knighthood Adam will keep those
pennies for future use. In closing, I would like to do
follow up I should have mentioned that. I'd like to I'd
like to be named psoralea Knight of the Santa Clara Valley. Oh,
he's already okay. We got to put them on the list. I didn't Oh,
oh,
Adam Curry: hold on a second. So well, this is Brian Holcomb and
I have to do some work on them. Yes,
John C. Dvorak: we wanted to be certainly in his car. ULEAN Hold
on.
Adam Curry: Okay, sir. Really? Um, yeah,
John C. Dvorak: sure. Raelian night of the Santa Clara Valley.
Okay. And he does have something which you're not going to be
happy with. Okay, I don't drink or okay. Now y'all says Happy
anniversary. John. Me. Thanks, Brian. He was just sent your
cash, which I believe is the bush clip. Respect which is
probably right there in front of you. And pew pew. Okay, so
Adam Curry: just send you cash. Isn't that water or blankets?
Isn't that? Water blankets? It's somewhere else man. This is so
old. Okay. What's the other one? Pew pew and respect? Okay,
respect. Get that one. Where's the pew pew? You see, normally
these days? I've been? I gotta take it to the bank. I don't
know where the hell that thing is the it's like how long it's
been since we use that. Maybe? Is it? No, no, I have that one.
Maybe it's bush. Oh, tell
John C. Dvorak: them blankets water. Yeah, it's been a while.
Adam Curry: Since your cash dammit. Well, I'm gonna do one
more. One more. Look. Let me see if I can find it. Now, I'll have
to owe that one to ESP I see T
Unknown: you've got karma.
Adam Curry: That's very annoying, but I can't find that
one anymore.
John C. Dvorak: Here's our coincidence. Stephanie.
Stephanie Meyer, who is married to Sir GQ. Yeah. Who sent whose
note you read? Yes. I'd like to send a special birthday shout to
my amazing husband, sir. GQ, as he turns number of 33 on August
12. That's interesting. Although he's been a longtime listener,
one of your biggest fans and birthday boy, this donation will
be going toward my own knighthood. Thank you both for
keeping us informed, jingo, requests. 33 is the magic
number. Thank you. 33. That's the magic. The magic number.
We're
Adam Curry: all here to karma as well. You've got karma. Yes. And
Stephanie. would officially be Dane today. But I'm gonna hold
off because if we don't have a surprise that she received this
from her husband. So I think we should hold off until she tells
us tells us what name she would like to use. And we can do that
on Thursday show. Does that sound good?
John C. Dvorak: This will be an executive decision on your part.
Adam Curry: I blame the Dutch guy, right. Sure. Yeah, I think
we should do that. Just I just want to make sure it's a big
deal. People want to have certain things at the
roundtable. I want to make sure we provide
John C. Dvorak: right and it's better than doing a make good.
Adam Curry: Yeah, exactly. Much better than that.
John C. Dvorak: We'll give her a special send of Orange County
meetups in a tour is $60. So we have to decide on some of these
meetups you will want to collect money we have to have a
designated money collector to send this off you have to be
pretty responsible. Mentioned Amy Hagen neTea. Illuminati
Maria Gruber, Heather Fuji Nari and Crystal Darrow all
contributed. And there is a note on one of them
Adam Curry: now, tell us about the meetup. How many people were
there? And I know it was kind of impromptu sets and
John C. Dvorak: say, what do we need a form? Well, the form one
of these days, okay, start designing the form. Oh, I
Adam Curry: thought this was from the oh, this is the OC
meetup. Right. I'm sorry. I was thinking of the Berkeley meetup.
Yes.
John C. Dvorak: No, I incorporate the Berkeley meetup
into the whole thing. Okay. There is no separate Berkeley
meetup one in the morning, and thank you for your courage and
closes a donation of $100. This is in the name of crystal
Darrow. We like to put our both of our names but crystal feels
slighted after our other donations have been attributed
to only Ryan. Moving on. We're both teachers. The reason I'm
bringing this note normally don't read $100 notes, but this
is attached to the 260 note and I thought it was worth reading.
Moving on. We are both teachers who live and work in Santa Ana
in the Socialist Republic of California, and so are faced
every day with colleagues whose amygdala is or at varying
estates of enlargement. Your shows have been a lifeboat of
sanity in our sea of derangement. I wonder how many
teachers out there like this? Oh, I think many. We recently
hosted our first Orange County na meetup much they hosted this
okay, it went swimmingly. Keep up with the nautical theme.
Language. This was our first time setting up such an event.
So of course, we wouldn't expect it to go perfectly. And we were
very sad to hear that some of the attendees couldn't find out
find our tables. The next OC meetup will be planned with more
care. Okay. All right. It was it she goes on to explaining the
they need a health karma for dad and the beginning of a second
year current for us, as well to give them a karma.
Unknown: You've got karma
John C. Dvorak: she does have seen I think we're good. Okay.
Onward. Sir Donald murasky. He came in with unusual amount of
tourist $46.90. But he's still used the United Federation of
Planets, which I'm sure he's running out of this letterhead.
Gentlemen, here's my combined donation for two months, July
and August. Two times 12345. Chairs. Donald Barofsky, Sir
Donald of the fire bottles. Vikon. Oh, Eastern Washington
State.
Adam Curry: I love it. Thank you very much for Donald. Very good.
As long as it's on the Federation letterhead, then we
know all as well. Yeah, no idea what the code numbers are. But
yeah.
John C. Dvorak: You never know. Sir Paul Schneider in Edmonton,
Alberta. Please credit me as sure Paul Schneider thanks F Y I
can be 3333 Okay,
Adam Curry: so he becomes he is the rule so he becomes an
executive producer for today's program.
John C. Dvorak: Aaron Chamberlain has and in a newt
which I have printed out I did for one for once I did this in
advance you it's a long note but I'm gonna know if I cut it down
a little bit sir pot father and trusty sidekick AKA AKA Adam and
John the trusty sidekick. Next I'd like to get to okay goes.
I've been freeloading for 1000 episodes. Sorry about that. It's
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23232. Okay, I like to get some insight of the Dayton shooting.
I live in Dayton about 10. You love Yeah, just cost. That's
all. Oh, I live in Dayton about 10 minutes from the shooting. We
have a personal friend who came to us the Saturday evening after
the shooting. He was a co worker of the shooter. And he actually
worked with him the Friday night before. He told us he thought
the guy was a little odd, but never got the vibe of a ruthless
killer. Our friend told us about the time he actually went to the
gun range with the guy and he thinks he held the rifle used in
the killing. Needless to say our friend is a little shaken up. He
wasn't best friends with the guy but more than coworkers. He went
to a concert with the guy just a week before the FBI came to
question the establishment he worked at Chipotle and offered
one trauma counseling session for everyone that worked there
if they needed and any additional sessions that
insurance would help pay for to pull he's very generous by the
way they'll let you take as much counseling as you want as long
as somebody else is paying for it. Our friend is a black man
who's from Guiana, South America. So if the media
defaults to calling this racially charged killing spree,
I would argue the contrary. So nothing to report but I want to
provide a little insight for the show.
Adam Curry: That is interesting.
John C. Dvorak: It is interesting. The wife's birthday
is a little early August 30s by want to give off you may have to
sorry about this. I didn't put this on the list to Eric. Okay,
birthday for my fine fine would cap it all caps Lady Laura
Chamberlain.
Adam Curry: Okay. Hey, no age. No. Laura Chamberlin and she
celebrates on
John C. Dvorak: the 30th Okay, so dig in a chances
Adam Curry: I'm in time baby. And that's from ERIN Right?
John C. Dvorak: I've attached pictures of her dogs Daisy
elaborate Dean Labrador and get Great Dane and must be something
in the agency the chiweenie the Mexican hot dog Chihuahua and
daschund not sure if you'd like to shoot not sure if they like
to show they definitely like people especially Diddy who will
pee on you. Also cats do many attentionally one Jean King club
fattest cat around they use this newsletter Django request you're
not going to believe this Yeah,
Adam Curry: no, I believe it's send your cashier in. Yes, but
it is pew pew pew pew pew Sure.
John C. Dvorak: And then Obama phone which I have no idea oh
yeah, we got that. And Thanks Obama and please clap okay got
the too much to ask. You do the three by three jingle at the end
of the show.
Unknown: That's a lot to ask
John C. Dvorak: I haven't heard that jingle for years. Keep up
the great work in deconstruction breath of fresh air in this
sucking society. Pew pew Obama
Adam Curry: phone Thanks, Obama. And what was the other one? Clap
Please clap. Please. Clap. I thought we had a very short
Obama phone. I don't even know why Obama phone Yeah, I know
what that is. So pew pew president you know Thanks,
Obama. Please clap. Something like that. You have got
John C. Dvorak: well Bernie and lip
Adam Curry: took me a second. Yeah. All right.
John C. Dvorak: We have anonymous $222.22
Adam Curry: I got an email. This is Sir American carnage. Yeah.
And anyway, as his anonymous donation he says he's knows
John C. Dvorak: the bronze the Bronze Age just for email.
Adam Curry: Yes, I sent you guys note about acceleration ism in
the show. We're the same name a few months back I guess we
didn't pick up on the Bronze Age. mindset which is this book
slash manifesto which I read which was pointed out to me is
maybe the motivation for the El Paso shooter at perhaps even
Christ Church. It was very odd hearing you guys mentioned
brought Bronze Age pervert. He is the so called author as I
followed and interacted with him on Twitter for about three
years. He is part of frog Twitter. That's not Pepe, but
it's a nice reactionary irony part of Twitter. The best I can
explain concisely is that some on Iron some iron eat content
Twitter, someone ironi content Twitter. I guess that's like
white Twitter Black Twitter irony content Twitter, have
performance art identities that never break character. Bronze
Age pervert is one of those. Yeah, I think I figured as much.
Some are so involved in complex that they even write books under
their Twitter identity name. Bronze Age pervert has been
trolling journalists and confounding the blue checkmarks
on Twitter since before the 2016 election. His book is a meme
extension of his identity. It's a social commentary under huge
layers of irony performance. Even the title is a meme joke
play on the grifter dime a dozen mindset books of the last few
years John was pretty much right no you hear that John was pretty
much right I didn't hear that you broke it was John was pretty
much right and if anyone committed a shooting over baps
writing that's Braun Jade pervert, then that is super
cringe and they don't know the ethos of frog Twitter and they
got trolled. So clearly, we need to shut this shit down because
for going into areas of performance art that are weird,
but okay, it makes nothing but sense I think that's a lot of
what the chances are to is a lot of performance type art. And
it's it's postmodern art form. And I think that's definitely
Yeah, and I think that you nailed it and I I definitely had
my questions like this could be fake. I don't know what's going
on. So yeah, so I'll ignore I'll ignore it from now on. Because I
have my time can be spent on better things than reading 98
pages of the Bronze Age pervert. But thank you, I appreciate the
appreciate the knowledge. So, again, the more you learn on the
no agenda show No more you
John C. Dvorak: learn, yeah. Kimberly Redmond in Toronto,
Toronto, Ontario to 21. And she writes, thanks for providing me
with a sanity check. It means more than you know, as a
marketer. I've been quietly observing as so much unfolds
behind the scenes. I like watching the Wizard of Oz
pulling the switches. And all the while people continue to
argue over partisan issues. It's good to know that there are
others out there that see There's more than meets the eye.
Please send some jobs karma as I am relaunching a platform and
also starting a new venture this year. Hopefully, I can help to
the Hi, PS. I'm not sure if this is how it works. I sent to 21
because it adds up to five numerology for freedom and
change and my number. Sorry, it's not more it's what I can
afford.
Adam Curry: No, very happy. Thank you very much, Kimberly,
and here's your jobs, karma.
Unknown: Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote her job. Karma.
John C. Dvorak: Certain he's been cope and comes here with
200 bucks with probably the shortest note we've had for a
while that actually has more content and n j and k, which is
key. Hi.
Adam Curry: Yes, that is my pronoun. He ha yeah,
John C. Dvorak: that's my Primark. Great. Yeah, I get as
good one too. My pronouns he Ha, Mark. Coolen. coilin colon or
colon colon. Boy, he said he's Dutch. You can pronounce his and
he's a weird witness.
Adam Curry: That's you go to Holland and the cab driver will
take you right there if you pronounce it like that. Try it
again. Witness Oh, yeah. Yeah, we're on our way there, sir.
Vaden this would be closer.
John C. Dvorak: Vitus one my Dutch guy mocking me.
Adam Curry: Oh, my Dutch guy accent for this one.
John C. Dvorak: How you do this guy's name? coilin mark,
Adam Curry: Colin. Mark, Mark Kerlin. Invade Enos. Hello,
Shawn and Adam. I've checked my Pay Pal subscription of 1111 a
month and it seems that knighthood bestowed to my knee
in 2010 is up for promotion for some time now. Therefore, I'd
like to claim the title of betternet of East Lake City and
newly arisen marker Vodun of the lowlands Oh, so this is
John C. Dvorak: a title change and upgrade is done on the list.
Adam Curry: Yeah, taste. Oh man. This is what is going on with
the back office. Please get my company seed care, a seed
production company a plug and some seed growing karma.
Greetings from Mark Colin Vaden s in the Netherlands. So seed
care I didn't give us a URL but here comes your karma for sure.
You've got karma. So we have Mark Cohen just get this right.
John C. Dvorak: I wonder what Billy what's a plug for seed
care? Yeah. With no URL now it's probably code
Adam Curry: so it's Mark colon. Go becomes Barrow net. What is
it John, can you read that for me?
John C. Dvorak: He wants to be the title Baronet of East Lake
City. Okay. And then oh, and the newly arisen marker Vodun Oh,
yeah. Okay, the low lands
Adam Curry: newly arisen marker vault and I think this is new
land that has
Unknown: appeared in The Netherlands From which molded
molded
Adam Curry: from the rising sea level. Somehow there's more land
now I'm not sure what's going on. I'll look as it makes sense.
No, not really not in the narrative. All right, Mark,
thank you very much. No, Carmen, no
John C. Dvorak: nothing. Steven Kunkel in Atlanta Georgia Sir
Stephen how not mistaken today's own guest not is going to be Sir
Stephen today's donation She trusted me over the knighthood
bar. I'd like to request the no no chicken dance jingle. thanks
from you know that when I do that, did it yeah. Thanks for
making the no agenda show something I look forward to on
both Thursdays of each week. You've given me a fresh
perspective on a lot of random topics and more importantly, an
approach to dissecting the current events that are pushed
on us for some cases completely or in some cases completely
ignored by the mainstream media and 5am. For my night name, I'd
like to request cirrhosis. Pronounced cirrhosis. Okay,
cirrhosis. Like cirrhosis of the liver. These guys in their puns
have broken you guys aren't taking it seriously. Yeah, they
Adam Curry: are. Very seriously.
John C. Dvorak: In the name if the name is taken, it's not and
by the way, you can we can knights can have duplicate
names. Yes. I'll go with Sir. Gipper by having the Oh
Adam Curry: no, sir cirrhosis of Brooke Cavan is where we're
that's what we're going with, sir. Okay, but
John C. Dvorak: he talks about some hybrid sheep. Anyway, for
my knighting ceremony, I'd like some dirt cake. Yeah, got it. A
sixer of tropicalia IPA from creature comforts brewing. And
three Posthuma cotton candy flavored jewel pod. Well, you're
gonna get two of these items. Wow. Over the eye chart, but
Kalea IPA and the dirt cake. Okay. Got it. Got it. Give him a
random karma. Yes.
Adam Curry: I don't want to argue. You've got karma but I
will take the three puffs for you. I'll do that. No problem.
Thank you. Lee
John C. Dvorak: does have a jewel, Susie Brown and
Barnesville the Wisconsin 200 should have pronunciation could
be better but she's actually from Madison. So
Adam Curry: it's, well, it's Barneveld which is fine Dutch
name actually.
John C. Dvorak: Okay, there's Sonya Boson Berg from Madison,
Wisconsin. Easier to pronounce and the other name. Thank you
for keeping me sane. My coworkers watch CNN all night
long. May I come? May I get some health karma from my husband as
he struggles with ALS. Love and Light Yes of
Adam Curry: course. Absolutely.
Unknown: You've got karma
John C. Dvorak: we have James Kuhn in North Chesterfield,
Virginia $200 and he is actually k four g i v 7370 threes
Adam Curry: kilo five Alpha Charlie Charlie
John C. Dvorak: it's been far too long since my last donation
please de douche me keep up the great deconstruction of the M
five M No jingles just some karma. Energy Do
Unknown: you spend deed do? You got karma?
John C. Dvorak: We have Earth anon. Who is our last donor he
was at the meet up and he left a note and $200 He's a very
interesting character. He is a scientist and he's he's a
student at University of California Merced. I've been a
listener says show a dozen No. to 15 He thinks I came across
the show from slack a hashtag hashtag startups on Freenode.
IRC. Haha. That's what I said. That's interesting. So I thought
please deduce me as this contribution is long overdue.
You've been de deuced again quite contrary what I think is
fair for a broke grad student but if I can return value, so
can anyone else time to stop freeloading. My background is in
environmental engineering and I was I was raised Jewish printed
is very small. I was first finished my MS and environmental
systems at one of our wonderful University of California
campuses. Currently I'm pursuing my PhD in computer science with
a focus on sustainability approaching approaches for
robots wow, I am a robot I am sustainable you must die. If I
was smarter I'd be working on the FAI AI L goes problem but
most post most importantly they are is to work hard to get I
can't read this part. Yes. I am also
Adam Curry: I don't know what's worse what he's writing Are you
struggle actually, it's funnier to hear you try and read it.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. Do you want to give up? I would I would
have I would have
much more to say but this is this isn't enough. I had to hit
people in the mouth when surrounded by a bunch of elites,
especially with your something of something. But I will say
regarding future climate, the papers and reports are or
evidence or bullshit. I can't read this. Well hitters are
right. Not the hitters are not the headings are not also the
number of I have to get him to
Adam Curry: retain you know what John? I would say as a cold read
that was well done.
John C. Dvorak: is more than what very funny,
Adam Curry: you know, what am I gonna say it's painful to listen
to. I want to I'm trying to help us get out. Let's get out. Let's
get out of it. I mean, you got to he's got to read write it or
something's got
John C. Dvorak: to happen. Now he might have The jingle
requests let me see.
Adam Curry: Well, while you're looking at I'm going to play the
chicken dance Obama that we glossed over. This is a rowdy
crowd. Come on, guys. You're in my house. Oh, hold on saying.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no.
Unknown: Hey, okay, you
know what? Shame on you. You shouldn't be doing this.
John C. Dvorak: All right, Isa guy and no jingles, no karma. So
that's good. Let's give him a karma for my bad reading. And
I'll ask him, because he's a earth sciences guy get his PhD
in computer science. It's not not a dummy.
Adam Curry: No, it just sounds like it's whatever he wrote is
not read.
Unknown: Like a doctor. Yeah. Oh, well, that's
the problem right there. Got it. You've got karma.
John C. Dvorak: And that's a list of Associate Executive
producers and executive producers for show levels. 63
want to thank each and every one of them. There's a good list
today. Good pile of them. Keeping this show going.
Adam Curry: Yes. And these executive producer Associate
Executive producer credits are just like Hollywood. In fact,
this was pretty much like a Tarantino movie. We have a whole
lot of producers and but very proud to see this. Thank you so
much, especially in the in the summer. It's fantastic to have
this kind of support. That really helps a lot. Thank you.
And we will be thanking more of our donors, although that list
is considerably shorter. For the 50 and above and our second
segment, I did want to add a quick note. For those of you who
are new and you hear about this karma, people want jobs karma,
health karma, something we didn't make up, but we gladly
provide it when asked so we play the jingle and somehow
collective conscious does seem to work Matt and Ashley lazarey.
You'll remember their notes. In fact, I'll read this one from
from Matt and Ashley health karma works. You graciously
granted my wife Ashley, a well timed and much needed health
karma on show 1158 I'm pleased to report back it worked for
surgery on August 5 was according to the neurosurgeon
procedurally perfect, she has been recovering so well that she
was transferred to the physical therapy rehab facility two days
earlier than they had originally planned. Most of her symptoms
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Ashley and I want to give you John in the entire no agenda
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A now one thing about her as scientists they're hard to read
propagated
Unknown: our formula is this we go out we get people in the
mouth
you Yeah, there we go.
John C. Dvorak: So you know that we gotta plug somebody finally.
Adam Curry: Oh, yes, yes, yes. Yes. I did. You I have it. I
have a clip. Do you have a clip? I got a clip. I have two clips,
or we got two clips. And then let's take your clips.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, Jen Briony of the
Adam Curry: congressional dish podcast. Who? Who has really
been your your protege and I'll say it. You have worked with her
John C. Dvorak: helped her on learn on a number of things. But
I like her podcast. She's a she is a left leaning Bernie fan but
she doesn't like to mention that and when she talks about
herself, but she goes on the C span show one of the college
shows they had a whole bunch of people that came on that would
did a whole bunch like three or four that came on that debt that
are podcasters that do political shows. We could have been
invited
Adam Curry: to Sure. We work imagine those phone calls. Yes,
we have Adam Craig Johnson of work here from the no agenda
show and let's go to the caller the first one. Epstein's got an
egg Dick none of that's ever gonna ever.
John C. Dvorak: We might have trouble but she came in she gave
us a little plug.
Adam Curry: Wait wait. Jeffrey Epstein. Now I got it took me a
moment.
John C. Dvorak: gave us a little plug. And then she did. She also
followed through with this secondary catch, which I would
call. But let's listen to Brian II on advertising
Unknown: I see in the corporate media is that they are serving
advertisers, they see advertisers as their customers.
And so there's a, there's a passive corruption in that
because you don't want to bite the hand that feeds you. And so
that determines which stories you pick to cover. And I just
didn't want to do that. And so I essentially crowdfund my
podcast, I call it the value for value model, which was actually,
it was perfected by Adam curry, and John C. Dvorak. They host
the no agenda. So I mean, it's their model, but I am copying
them. And basically, what I do is I produce something of value.
And I think there's a lot of value in knowing what's going on
in the lawmaking part of our government. And in return, I
asked people to return whatever value they receive in financial
forum and my wonderful community does.
Adam Curry: And you know, what? Well done. Well explained. I
liked it. It was very concise. What I thought was you clip that
off, understandably, I liked the guy's response to that. Very, I
thought very interesting, the way we're funding it, which is
something different. Let's just listen to how he responded to
that
Unknown: financial forum. And my wonderful community does
have been working for six years then.
Financially, it's been working for maybe two years. Shannon has
at first
Adam Curry: and let's take some calls. Yeah. Okay.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, he's like He would I don't even know he's
listening. Now. Of course, he's not. He's definitely missed
this. This was an I thought it was good that Brian he caught
it. She kind of smiled and thought it was funny. And this
is one of the Justin, one of our apparently one of our listeners,
who calls in and starts with Bernie pointing out like, sorry,
Bernie pointed that out. Like, this is why
Unknown: I like Bernie. So let's hear
from Justin Justin's here in Washington, DC. Hi, there in the
morning. Good morning.
Good morning to you.
Adam Curry: I saw somewhere else on the comments on the like New
York Times about Epstein Epstein. Someone wrote a was
hag, the Hillary assassination group and like it was great.
We're finally seeping into culture. Well, I love that all
15 people who watch C span were exposed to our model. And that's
very an actually, I think there may be more people watching that
than you think because a lot of people either maybe they didn't
catch it. Maybe they just thought posted somewhere. But I
got a lot of people sending this to me. So I wonder if that show
is really well watched perhaps.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, what am I have no idea. They don't give
numbers. They don't need to they don't. Anyway, but I thought it
was cute that she would she played along with the in the
morning? Yes. Which was a plus. And that, you know, she dropped
the ball on that I would have been very disappointed. Of
course, the other guy didn't know what the hell was going on.
Yeah. Okay, onward.
Adam Curry: Yes. Let me see where we want to pick things up.
What was interesting, and always happens is the complete news
cycle shift. I mean, it was just it blew over the weather, a
couple of things going on. We had multiple mass shootings, we
had the rather massive raid on one company that how do they
pick up like 680 people released several 100 Almost immediately,
but they had outstanding warrants for multiple offenders.
And I think just before the Epstein news happened, this was
I just wanted to play it because it was such an incredible use of
well, abuse of children, which, you know, we do track quite a
bit. We still have Greta Thornburg out there who's
John C. Dvorak: very concerned about it. Yeah. And
Adam Curry: she's, she's really being abused. I feel we both
feel probably,
John C. Dvorak: I'm concerned for her life.
Adam Curry: Well, as she's taken that, you know, cross ocean
sailing trip on it, what isn't a 50 foot? You know, competitive
sailing yachts did not going to come
John C. Dvorak: those are not it's not something you want to
go across the ocean in no adults. You're a pro, sort of a
professional.
Adam Curry: And in fact, you know, we've we've started using
this tactic to do increase our own support by abusing children
from Australia to read sad notes, and clearly it's working.
So I can't say that's a bad thing. And I don't care if a
father like Chris Wilson, Sir Chris Wilson abuses his kid,
that's fine. We didn't know each other. It
John C. Dvorak: seems to be getting a kid that kid is too
old. abused. I think Christmas he's more likely to be knifed by
the kid now he's Aussies are tough.
Adam Curry: So there was this ice raid. And I guess this was
not the first time they'd rated this company although the way
the the M five M played it it was like, oh my god this is no
it's like the Nazis coming to get the Jews and it's
unbelievable. And and the kids who were the first day in school
know they had no parents to come home to which turns out wasn't
true. Everyone was asked Do you have a child in school, someone
who was going to be alone, they were sent home immediately, they
were released immediately as per the spokes holes who were
talking about this. But that's not the way to imply them like
to play it in general. He was really all about the children
not about what these these people had been. Had many of
them hundreds of them had entered the country illegally
multiple times. And now forget about that. It was unbelievable
how mean they were. Because this affects children. It's always
about that children. Now we don't even talk about the
children of legal citizens whose parents OD or parent get
arrested or broken families or domestic violence. You don't
hear much about the children from the M five and when it
comes to that. But oh, we found one everybody, we found the one
child and everyone had a microphone in front of her face.
So we've made them to be read daily videos. They had the
subtitle and it of course many people use inside the company.
Now, you watch this video. And you know the comments range from
you know, the outrage, you'd expect to Ah, she's acting and
it doesn't matter. Either way, it's an abuse of a child and
then to use this child for your political statement is
disgusting. And I wish I wish we talked about children more, and
children who were suffering of the citizens of the country. But
no, that seems to not be the talking point. So that's kind of
where we left some things off. There were some 2020 stuff.
There. Actually, I would like to play this. Austin had their
monthly city council meeting. Ah, yes. And they're on
Thursdays, which is sad, because I can't really go although if
I'd known that the schedule would eventually wind up ending
eight hours later than planned. Ie I have a piece of audio here
from one in the morning, when finally item 77 came up, which
was the homeless, or as we said on the show, say the unhoused
ordinance camp camp anywhere. Which is not entirely
everywhere. You can't camp on city grounds. But the it has
increased
John C. Dvorak: on the sidewalk city grounds.
Adam Curry: Cleanup. No, that is not No. In fact, that is exactly
what came up in this. I mean, there were a couple of things
that that happened in this. Because only 10 people are
allowed to speak. And they put it on video. And it's you know,
and it's archive. But nothing's really great. If the audio is
not good. I'll cut the segment I think it's good enough for you
to listen to. I just want you to kind of hear how the citizens
are looking at this. And then the city council. And this is
one gentleman who showed up and he's I think he has a a pole
with 25 You know, or a petition with 25,000 signatures on it.
And he's just there saying hey, you know, could you please turn
that law back, though the ordinance back to what it was
because now we have people pooping on the street.
Essentially, the city has
Unknown: far more litter today. And I think anyone that denies
Adam Curry: now can you hear this at all? Is it worth it to
play this
John C. Dvorak: play for a while I'll let you know.
Unknown: They also create human waste. Anyone who camps anyone
who sleeps is creating human waste. And since now, I'm
homeless people are allowed to sleep and camp in public. Not
here at City Hall. I'll point out but anywhere else in public,
except city parks. They're creating human waste and the
photos and the videos that I get sent or shared on social media
that are taken in real time are shocking. truly shocking. So
there's a there's a profound public health concern here as
well. Third, I don't see how this is a good thing. Good
policy for tourism. Our downtown is thriving. And we all take
pride in that fact. We have people from all over the world
that are coming here. It is simply not good for tourism, to
have this be the image of Austin that people are seeing that we
are trying to effectively emulate the policies that we've
seen in cities like Los Angeles, in San Francisco in Seattle in
Honolulu. I'm here tonight carrying the voices of the
people who have signed our petition. I'm asking you, I
guess at the August 22, meeting, to undo this policy. This is not
not a solution to problems.
Adam Curry: Okay, so I think you could understand enough of it.
What the guy saying is, we are now adopting the policies. And
it's interesting. You said San Francisco, Los Angeles, Seattle,
and he said Honolulu? Yeah, I didn't know Honolulu had to
John C. Dvorak: I don't know this either. But it wouldn't
surprise me it could be a sorrows. Sister running the
thing now is what the problem is.
Adam Curry: Well, then, and this retort is what I what I was
surprised by one of the city council members, that would be
district ones. Greg says our he calls the guy back. And I'll
just set it up for you that and he's like, Oh, you said not in
front of City Hall. Because a big point of contention with
everybody is like, Oh, you can you can camp and poop anywhere
you want, but not in front of City Hall. And this guy is going
to correct him on the record, which only shows you the
arrogance and makes it worse of what's these elites. And then
not even elites, their elites that fell upwards into the city
council and a B elites. Oh, my God, they're the worst,
especially this Greg says are, and he's not my district, but to
hear as he calls the guy back.
Unknown: Thanks for sticking around.
Yeah. Been a lot of fun. Nice to meet you, too.
You brought up tonight and then several times I've seen or heard
saying, camping anywhere want to City Hall, and then just now in
the parks, but also not at libraries, for recreation
centers, or at the Capitol, or at the governor's mansion. If
you were
not aware of those locations? No, I'm aware that private
property, city parks and City Hall were exempt. I was not
aware of those additional
exemptions. Also, it's just city facilities generally that have
curfews, like libraries, and parks and capital and the
governor's mansion. Okay. So can you commit to making sure that
you spend that information accurately? Absolutely.
Adam Curry: Thanks for the guy is perturbed, that the public
doesn't know that not only can you not camp and poop at City
Hall, but also the Capitol and the governor's mansion. So just
so you know, that's disinformation by omission,
Powell. What the fuck, he's making it worse. There's more
places that you cannot camp that are not accessible to the
public, per se. But oh, it's government. It's us. So just
letting you you can't camp there. am I misreading this? Or
is this guy just an elitist prick?
John C. Dvorak: Well, I don't think he's much of an elitist,
he's just a prick.
Adam Curry: We'll take it. And then he got into a little
altercation.
Unknown: You bring up the church might be more human waste. I
still don't quite understand how it is that ticketing we're
arresting someone for merely being outside reduces
homelessness and therefore reduces human waste. And folks.
Adam Curry: Okay, so I'll set this up, and I'll let her play.
So what this council member is saying is I don't see what
difference it makes in where people poop versus a month ago.
You know, so tell me what's going on with the with the human
waste situation is to paraphrase like, What is your problem with
now that people can poop anywhere in front except City
Hall? What is the problem? Or
Unknown: how that reduces violence. And so I really hope
that we don't conflate those things. And I just don't
understand and still haven't seen how it is that re
criminalizing those behaviors is going to reduce the violence
that you pointed out or reduce the health issue. They've
pointed out,
corresponded so so on the waist issue, I would say is the
differences. Now this is happening in public, it's
happening on sidewalks, it's happening, you know, where
was it happening before inside their homes? They don't have
well, it's
happening wherever they congregate. A lot of times it
happens in 100 under overpasses under bridges. This was not it
wasn't
happening in June. Pardon me, to me. It wasn't happening. And
what I'm saying is
if you walk through downtown, now or in other neighborhoods,
this is now is now becoming a problem for citizens who are
walking to school, walking their dog walking In the neighborhood,
to an extent that it wasn't before
where were folks going to the bathroom?
I don't I don't listen. I mean, if you're asking me like, where
did homeless people where do homeless people congregate in
this city?
Now, unfortunately, that question, you said that there's
more human waste, and that's causing a health issue, right?
Going to the bathroom. And what I'm
saying is that
Adam Curry: key now, he believes this, can you believe this is
what they're discussing? He's He's saying, well, where'd they
go to the bathroom a month ago? What is wrong with these people?
This is insane. i You're talking the wrong guy. I know. But it's
like we have he said it right up front. This is the policy that
LA and San Francisco and apparently Honolulu are
adopting. Why are we doing that? His answer is, Well, where were
they pooping before? You know, it's like, we need a poop
report. I mean, what is going on?
John C. Dvorak: research needs to be done.
Adam Curry: I mean, yes, we need a steering committee to track
the poop habits. Anyway, what the city of Austin and old
Bruins have done is they voted yes, on forming a corporation,
which will run the new shelters. So now all right, good. I'm sure
that'll work out fine. Now we'll keep you updated on Austin poop
epidemic.
John C. Dvorak: No. Wish I could just get more people to move
there.
Adam Curry: It's too expensive here. People don't want to be
here now. It's not working out.
John C. Dvorak: Killed in Santa Monica.
Adam Curry: Now let's talk about mental illness for a moment. As
it links to the to the mass shooters. The president came out
and the way I took his statement was it's mental health. It's
being mental health as a problem. The Combine that with
violent video games and social networks and hate hate something
about hate, and we have to stop hate and we'll have red flag
laws and I didn't like anything that he said. The mental health
part I can see a valid point. People are saying well, you're
stigmatizing mental health and I and I think there's a valid
validity to that. I don't necessarily personally think
that mental health is the issue. I would say the issue was what
is being prescribed to people who have mental health issues.
It is the medication that's that comes with fair warning on the
on the bottle and says you know, you may become violent you may
become suicidal, lots of you may come more depressed than you
were. And that is what doesn't seem to be investigated. But on
Democracy Now. They had a and I know I'm in your turf here. They
had on a lady who was a member of affirm research.org and and
she's an emergency room doctor so she I do not believe she is a
psychologist or psychiatrists. Affirm is the American
Foundation for firearm injury reduction in medicine, a
nonprofit corporation comprised of healthcare professionals and
researchers working together to find lasting solutions to curb
the epidemic of firearm violence across the United States, which
has never explicitly mentioned in the intro, or in this or in
the interview that they are Act basically an anti gun
organization very small formed in 2018. No 990 published yet.
Looks like they have maybe $14,000 in donations over all of
2018. And she had a couple of think valid things to say about
mental health as it comes to violence, but also would tell a
clue there that we're on the right track with the the true
issue with these apparent mass shooters and mental health slash
medication. For
Unknown: more, we're going to Dr. Megan Ranney, one of the
authors of the Time article the dangers of linking gun violence
and mental illness. She's an emergency room doctor, Associate
Professor of Emergency Medicine at Alpert Medical School, Brown
University, and Chief Research Officer. I'd a firm research and
nonprofit focused on firearm injury reduction. Welcome to
Democracy Now. It's great to have you with us doctor. So if
you can respond to President Trump immediately linking saying
it's not guns, it's mental illness that pulls the
trigger. So that is just false. The mass shootings that we're
experiencing across the United States, the vast minority of
them are committed by people with serious mental illness.
About 20% of Americans across the country suffer from mental
illness. And as you mentioned, they are far more likely to be
victims of violence than perpetrators themselves. Where
they're most at risk is risk of suicide. As you said, two thirds
of gun deaths across this country are suicides and by law
We believe mass shootings as mental illness, we risk further
stigmatizing the mentally ill driving them away from
treatment, increasing the rates of suicide and also preventing
us from making forward progress on this epidemic. Well, Dr.
Randy, can you explain how did this link come about that
basically all these mass shootings in the US are a result
of mental illness? It's not an obvious conclusion to draw.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I'm, by the way, I know that to me was like,
What are you? That's not an obvious conclusion. Yeah, it
wasn't. But here's her answer contains I think the the truth
Unknown: illness, it's not an obvious conclusion to draw on
John C. Dvorak: a second stop at again. What is this woman
thinking? What is the obvious conclusion to draw Trump?
Adam Curry: Oh, Trump? Guns, Trump guns hate? Yeah, of
course. Yeah, no, you're right on that
Unknown: forward progress on this epidemic?
We'll jump right in. Can you explain how did this link come
about that basically, all these mass shootings in the US are a
result of mental illness? It's not an obvious conclusion to
draw.
Adam Curry: That is, that really is showing enormous bias in your
reporting.
John C. Dvorak: But does it Does she ever see that Aurora guy
when he was in court for the first time or, or Lanza or these
gods, you know, these characters that were, were mentally?
Adam Curry: No, they had guns Bushmaster, ar 15. Unbelievable.
Can't see the can't see past it. All right here comes around
Unknown: in the US are a result of mental illness. It's not an
obvious conclusion to draw.
Yeah, I mean, I think that we want to assign blame somewhere.
And in common conversation, you'll hear people say, Oh, that
guy must have been crazy, right? It seems, quote unquote, crazy
to go and shoot a lot of people. It's something that's been
repeated over and over by the news media, about 40% of
articles about mass shootings, mention mental illness as a
cause. It's something that we've come to believe as a nation, but
the evidence does not support that link. It supports a link
between substance use and mass shootings, a link between a
hatred and mass shootings, a link between prior violence and
mass shootings, but not with mental illness. Did you catch
it?
John C. Dvorak: Was substance abuse?
Adam Curry: That's not what she said. That's what I thought the
first time to, she says
Unknown: about mass shootings mentioned mental illness as a
cause. It's something that we've come to believe as a nation, but
the evidence does not support that link. It supports a link
between substance use and substance
John C. Dvorak: use substance you use,
Adam Curry: what is the substance talking the medication
you're given? That's the substance she didn't say illegal
substances, no substance use. So there may be evidence of that
although I've never seen said evidence because it doesn't seem
to get studied or published. But she clearly said substance use
and she's the expert All right. And I think there's probably
something to that although this is not effective. If you want to
if you want to you know start a campaign against guns, and in a
roundabout way said no, no. Mental Health has nothing to do
with this. We all know it's hatred and an easy access to
guns easy access to the guns, you want to do it right. You do
it the way a presidential candidate does it. Ladies and
gentlemen, you do it like the Yang man,
Unknown: more than a dozen presidential candidates or an
iOS speaking at a gun control forum, and CNN Arlette signs
joins us live in Des Moines. Arlette, what have been some of
the breakout moments you've seen there? Well, on
over the course of this day, you've heard from 16 of the
Democratic presidential candidates here in person at
this gun reform forum. And really, they've been laying out
their vision for how to solve this issue relating to gun
violence in this country. There was also a very emotional
moment, just a short while ago with Andrew Yang when he was
asked a woman asked a question and noted that her young child
was killed by a stray bullet take a look at that moment that
happened just a short while ago.
I have a six and three year old boy imagining I was imagining
was one of them. They catch up and the other that scene that
you described I'm sorry it's like very very affecting you
right that when there's a gun in the household, you're more
likely to have a child get shot or the owner get shot than to
kill let's say an intruder into the house, man.
Adam Curry: Yeah, pretty good for first timer
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, another
about bromide.
Adam Curry: But he was crying John
John C. Dvorak: Oh yeah, you would do that was in Yang that
was it? Yes. That
Adam Curry: was Yang crying. What? Oh, hello. Did you hear my
intro?
John C. Dvorak: Yes. Read the intro and I thought he was
you're playing a guy cry. Oh, that's
Adam Curry: actually that's actually Andrew Yang. Let's
listen again
John C. Dvorak: but play the whole clip again.
Adam Curry: I'm not gonna I won't I gotta play the intro
I'll play him here. Yeah, here we go listen,
Unknown: I have a six and three year old boy imagining I was
imagining was one of them that got shot and the other that
scene that you described I'm sorry it's like very, very
affecting you right that when there's
Adam Curry: an injury I saw the video so I know it's him.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, okay, yeah, I get it now I was paying
I read tuned to my ears. Yeah, yes. That's
Adam Curry: our first time, Mitch.
John C. Dvorak: How could you not John Boehner?
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, well, then then surely people will make fun
of him. And then finally on this hole
John C. Dvorak: that makes they will make funny Yang they made
fun of Boehner because he's a Republican.
Adam Curry: No, I know. That's why I'm saying they they'll make
fun of you knowing that they don't cry. Exactly. Judge
Napolitano, no fan of President Trump. At least I don't know. Is
he a fan now? Or was he not a fan? He's not a fan of Earth.
But
John C. Dvorak: do I not getting a point?
Adam Curry: He's not a Supreme Court justice. I'm sure. First
off about that. But he I agree with a lot of what he's saying
about this Red Flag Law and all this crap the President was
talking about, you know, we're gonna find his find hate on
social networks.
John C. Dvorak: By the way, I want to mention the Red Flag Law
thing, which I didn't pay as close attention to as I could
have when you were you were too wound up.
Adam Curry: You actually you actually said perhaps
hysterical. And I listened to the show later. I'm like, Yeah,
Fu Fu Fu you missed it. No, you you missed you when I said it.
No, you missed it. Because you weren't even listening to my
history. I
John C. Dvorak: was listening. So I would show apparently that
this is already a law just about to go it'd be passed in
California. Oh,
Adam Curry: yeah. It's already set up and he's on board.
John C. Dvorak: It's, it's a pourraient.
Adam Curry: And I think there's the there's another one hr 838,
the threat assessment, prevention and safety act of
2019. There's a number of things set up and good to go. And I
don't I don't think I would suspect that some of his base is
not liking this at all. I don't think I don't like Fourth
Amendment encroachment at all. So this snooping out online and
getting and collisions.
John C. Dvorak: Pay this just Castro's Cuba,
Adam Curry: colluding with the social networks and who knows
what's going to come out of it, but I don't like it. I don't
like the threat. I don't like that the president's doing this,
although apparently he wasn't even at the meeting. So I don't
know. But then you talk about the red flag laws. And we're
going to find out if someone said, well listen to Judge
Napolitano, a almost Supreme Court justice.
Unknown: Republican Senator Pat Toomey telling me earlier on Fox
Business, that a lot of his Republican colleagues are indeed
now rethinking some of their previous no vote on gun control
legislation and the like. But a Judge Andrew Napolitano says a
lot of those proposed laws won't hold up to constitutional
muster. He joins us right now. Judge, what do you mean?
Well, Neela Good afternoon. It's always a pleasure to be with
you. The proposal that the President offered the other day
is called a Red Flag Law. That's a law by which the federal
government would pay the states to change their state laws, so
that anybody who wants to raise a red flag, my next door
neighbor is a little crazy, but he has a gun, I think it should
come and take it away from him can cause the gun owner to be
dragged into court. In some states, the gun is taken away
before there's a hearing. And then the hearing decides whether
or not the gun owner might abuse it in the future. That's the
serious constitutional problem, Neil, because in this country,
it's been this way for our 230 years now, that presumption of
innocence and the due process requirements mean, you can only
be punished for something you've done in the past, not something
you might do in the future. When they say though
that and it was a brilliant column and we're looking at
this, you said you can do it on the basis of a fear of what a
person might do, but correct relatives or friends are
telegraphing authorities. Hey, we're worried we don't like what
we're seeing. It concerns is greatly that was the case of the
mother of the shooter in El Paso telegraphing local officials,
you know, should he own a gun I mean, it will What's the deal?
Adam Curry: And this was this reporting is also a little
sketchy. I read this in a couple places, but do we have any proof
that that she indeed informed the authority question? Her
son's ownership of a gun to authorities? Not that I know of,
Unknown: yeah. You don't want to wait. When these tragedies
happen. There's a natural instinct, I myself have this
instinct for the government to want to do something to keep us
safe. God forbid something like this should happen again. And
now we see that there were red flags, there were warning signs
for both Dayton, Ohio and El Paso. But the supreme law of the
land is the Constitution and the Constitution simply does not
permit taking a right away because somebody fears it might
be abused in the future. When the Supreme Court last looked at
the right to keep and bear arms it called that a fundamental
individual liberty that's in the same category as speech and
privacy and religion that has the highest category of rights,
it can't be taken away because the government fears you might
abuse it, it can only be taken away if you have committed a
crime.
Adam Curry: Now there you go. So I don't I don't know how this is
gonna work but I'm unconstitutional. Of course it
is. But I'm willing to Positano all the way on this. But
California
John C. Dvorak: apparently the way there are laws written is if
you turn somebody in just because you just hate them, you
get a bonus. No, but that you're never there's no check mark
against you, they get put on a list. And if they try to get off
the list and to try to condemn the other person for calling
them out, you know, as a nut ball, yeah. And, and it can be
shown that you're not at a knot in that ball in any way. And
this neighbor just hates you, but they're deciding just to
make your life miserable, because there's a lousy
neighbor, which is always possible. Yeah, too bad, too bad
for you.
Adam Curry: You're on the list. And that's it and then you're on
the list no guns for you. You can't buy one you have to give
them one for what's the what's going to happen.
John C. Dvorak: I pretty much personally scot free even though
the whole thing could be a scam.
Adam Curry: Now, just so I understand. States individually
can make almost any law they want, correct?
John C. Dvorak: No, because there's one law in the
Constitution and in one of the one of the amendments, that is
finally said that all states are subject to the same. They're
subject to the same US Constitution and at the Bay at
the very end of the day at the end of the day.
Adam Curry: Okay, so then, how was California able to have a so
called assault weapons ban for a decade? Because that was only
California, wasn't it? It was it was that federal? I thought it
was just California.
John C. Dvorak: The California has an assault. No, no, it's
gone.
Adam Curry: But they had it for 10 years. Well, they why is it
gone? Well, it had a sunset and then and then they looked at it
and said didn't help at all and then said okay, well, then we're
not going to renew it because it didn't make any difference.
Yeah,
John C. Dvorak: we need a lawyer on the show. I was a
constitutional lawyer. We need one right now as soon as
possible. But they're subject to the same bill of rights and
everything anyway,
Adam Curry: what is the President thinking this is not
going to be a very popular stance his ideas on no is
John C. Dvorak: dumb. I think he just shooting his mouth off as
usual. No,
Adam Curry: it was it was it was a written statement. The same
one that had the ADA code. Die. Right. You might well hold on
maybe They drugged the president up because he looked like and
sounded drugged.
John C. Dvorak: He does sound drugged a lot and just read this
and
Adam Curry: like i don't i and Nazi eight eight and Toledo and
red flags and gotta do it video games hate. It's maybe he maybe
they've got him on some program.
John C. Dvorak: He wouldn't know.
Adam Curry: I'm new. May I question this? Actually? That
was not a good moment for the President. So I wonder. I wonder
what they're doing with him. That whole speech was a tipping
point of something in my mind.
John C. Dvorak: Now we'll see where see where it goes.
Probably it's gonna go like everything else. Nowhere.
Adam Curry: You mean red flag laws? Yeah.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, so a lot of chatter Yeah, yeah gag gag
gag gag a yak and then there's nothing
Adam Curry: right isn't it just to get people to buy more ammo
John C. Dvorak: it's definitely something like this crops native
add basically it's just as a big shooting and everyone's get all
concerned about gun control. That's it time you invest in gun
stocks. Yes, because they're always skyrocket after that.
Yeah, I bought 10 More guns all right, you know these guns for
and by the way, I will say this when you see somebody who by all
the guy had a lot of guns, and so they show a collection of
guns. If a guy does not have the same, like 10 copies of the same
exact gun. He's not arming himself for some Armageddon.
He's a gun guy. He likes to have a bunch of different guns and go
to the range.
Adam Curry: So they just show a a stock footage of a bunch of
guns.
John C. Dvorak: Yes, always. is a bunch of random guns. There's
no two guns the same right? It's not a guy who's a danger. He's
easily enthusiast. Yeah, you'd like
Adam Curry: a platform. Like one kind of a weapon that you can
interchange parts. Sure. Sure. That makes sense.
John C. Dvorak: So I'm always dubious I see there's always a
gun. He's gonna kill everybody. He's got his different guns. I
got guns like,
Adam Curry: yeah, I was watching the Eckstein video, the ABC
video. And as as they're narrating. He was rushed to the
hospital. And they showed, like a dramatized snippet of video
maybe two, three seconds long. That was clearly from you know,
I don't know, what's it what's a like Chicago 911 or something
where you see a gurney being rushed to the Halls of a of a
hospital had nothing to do with any actual live footage. They
just threw it in there it was. I caught it immediately. But that
really sets people's thinking, you know, when you put in that
kind of dramatize footage into a news report? I thought it was
bizarre.
John C. Dvorak: Well, I didn't see it. So I don't know. But it
does. It does. It seems like they're just trying to trigger
people. Okay, I got a story here that just a one shot that I was
discussed. It was concerning to me. Very
Adam Curry: good. You caught it, you caught yourself. I'm proud
of you
John C. Dvorak: cashless millennials. Oh,
Adam Curry: they must be in great numbers.
Unknown: So let's talk about this. We know fewer and fewer
Canadians are going out and taking out huge amounts of money
to carry around in their wallet all week to make their
transactions. How significant has the shift been lately?
Well, more than we expected. We conduct research regularly we
payments Canada runs infrastructure for payments in
Canada, as well as sets the rules across the country. And
we're modernizing that and to make sure that we modernize so
that we meet Canadians needs, we do research. And what we have
found is that the way we pay is changing. And Millennials are
out in front in many ways. They're leading us on what where
you can expect in the future, there are three trends that we
see happening. One is a lot less use of cash, the millennials as
a category, over 50%, use less use cash less than four times a
month. That's once a week. And that is dramatically up from
last year when it was 20%. So we're seeing a massive shift
away from cash. The second is three quarters of millennials
make a purchase decision online in order based on the payment
experience, rather than only the product. So they are choosing
where to shop, when based on how easy it is to make the payment.
John C. Dvorak: Wow. Hello, Amazon.
Adam Curry: Yeah. And last night, we had a couple of
friends over for dinner. And one of our friends has a bar. It
used to be his dad's bar. It's in Houston. It's actually it's a
white boat. I don't know if he wants me to. It's well known
bar. And so already business had been impacted by Hurricane Hugo.
But he said, you know, this business is over the your local
bar is over. He says I don't think we can we can stay afloat,
maybe another couple of years. Because of the change in
society. I said, What do you mean? He says the dam
millennials. So what's up, he says, People no longer
congregate in the local bar, they don't come to the local
bar. They're all on Instagram. And that's where they have their
connection. And he said, The second reason you'd come to a
bar, which is to hook up is being removed by the dating
apps. He says that no one goes out to local bars anymore. It's
over. He says, I think, you know, at this point, we're just
gonna get driven out because the landowner will you know, we'll
see that he's got kind of a fixed rent situation going on
can make more by selling it to put up another condo complex.
And you know, they'll raise the rate three times, like happened
in Austin with thread gills, and boom, it's gone. Now I'm not
well, not blaming millennials, but that is the trend.
John C. Dvorak: This is debatable. There's plenty of
bars once typically now orchestrated by the millennials
themselves. It's a new kind of bar. Okay, it's a bar. There's
plenty of them around here. There are usually hipster bars.
And they have a kind of solution. They're packed by the
way, mostly with millennials. This is what he's running.
Somebody's running an old funky bar. Yeah, that is just out of
vogue. I mean, there's yeah, there's there's these old stinky
old I would call them stinky, but I think I smoke crappy old
bars that nobody wants to go to. I
Adam Curry: think specifically it's the local bar. And I think
that you'll find that the the millennials are going for not a
local bar, but a concept where they can still Instagram cool
pictures. I don't know if they're really
John C. Dvorak: that's not true either. Can we have Albany which
is right next to Berkeley is a bar town. It's got a lot of
bars, and there's a few local bars that have been shuttered.
But most of them have adapted and they've changed. And they've
modernized and they've hipster eyes. So what's the what is the
new norm and he misses I mean, there's one place to really old
hotsy Taapsee Club, which has been there forever, was taken
over by hipsters. Now they have a taco truck parked outside
where you can go get a taco go inside have one of many beers
and high end liquors. I'm dead old. The old farts don't go
there anymore, because they can't afford it. But the
millennials who seem to spend too much money on things that
you could find cheaper or frequent to place in another
place, which is in Albany, which is called the IV room, which is
really a funky old place that is turned into a blues club. And
still, you know, they've they've modernized I mean, these other
places you have to it's a stinky old cigar smoke. I'm down on my
luck.
Unknown: Hooker come see. Yes, yes. Yes, is over. Yes, exactly.
Adam Curry: I'll be sure to tell him what he needs to do. So
let's see. Well,
John C. Dvorak: he's the sell that place
Adam Curry: me to get a whole bunch of expensive beer. With
jamuns and picnic tables. What else do we do that really works
with the millennials?
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, picnic tables is a good one. That's
true. It's true. Well free though. For sure. Picnic tables
everywhere for
Adam Curry: sure. The new hip places are where you can find
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John C. Dvorak: You're going to run for mayor No,
Adam Curry: no no no. Yes absolutely. Yes. No. Not gonna
happen. No way. I'm it's so obvious that you as mayor you're
powerless. We have much more power with the microphone. You
can do both. You hear that? Mayor Adler? I'm coming for you.
You can do both. Oh, no, not unless you move here and you run
my campaign.
John C. Dvorak: I could do it. Yeah. Michael Levin Daniel wall
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show and in the process to get my wife loving it too. Oh go
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88 William Alston 8888 We get a lot of these Dennis Garcia AD AD
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Adam Curry: still congratulations yeah anniversary
donations.
John C. Dvorak: Yes for sure. Brian Tobias and Gardner Kansas
8808.
Adam Curry: Dennis Garcia needed a D do so and make sure you've
been D deuced.
John C. Dvorak: Dennis go Garcia was named Garcia's Miss Lee he's
French. He was at the meetup. Oh, really interesting guy. We
talked about food. got into an argument with somebody about
French versus like you for what it is now. Cuisine. It's
terrible.
Adam Curry: He is now the second Frenchmen to donate ever. So
yeah, he's a dude named Ben Foster. prioritize them for
towns. Okay.
John C. Dvorak: So Brian Tobias and in Gardner, Kansas 8808. And
he's got no explanation for that. Number
Adam Curry: one, he says my wife and I were married on Oh, 80808
and I was he okay, too busy planning our night that I forgot
about yours. Thank you for your courage and keep up the good
work, gentlemen. Thank you very much. Sir Brian.
John C. Dvorak: That's good. Alexander souls burger in
Deutschland.
Adam Curry: Now he's the only boob donation but does not have
a boo boo to talk about so he's probably just looking at books.
To me.
John C. Dvorak: I do have this note here. I wanted to read it
was a meet up guy. And he said I had to do this. This was a nice
note. It was John and Adam please do needs that was a D
douching. For I've already put that that wouldn't the D
douching. That was Dennis. Dennis was it? No. Dennis had a
delusion. Yeah, it was Dennis. He's the data janitor of dough.
I have no eval. He also has a request for some some job karma
and we'll put that at the end. Just want to make sure that's
clear. He says he knew. He says he ran into jazz Adam. You know
a voice actor voice over actor named each other Jerry or Jimmy.
I met him in Ibiza. He says he knows you. interesting guy. He's
the he's the he's the first Flat Earther I met.
Adam Curry: Well, maybe we met at the meeting but I don't know
him as a voiceover artist.
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was a 10 D and Murphy's Murfreesboro William Wellborn in
Kennesaw, Georgia 5033 In the following people or $50. Donors
name and location Ray. Matt bulky, I think is bulky. Yeah.
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Sir F that guy in St. Louis, Missouri. Yep, that's the guy
Andrew Closs carts unknown. Stephen Kirkpatrick in Langley
Washington. Hold on a second. All right. Anonymous in Antioch
anonymous of Antioch, California in Antioch, California do have
another one which is stuck in between here which is a think is
also anonymous and it's $50 from a Lodi, Wisconsin. So I want to
thank all these folks who are helping us with show 1160 Tree.
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Adam Curry: Yesterday is the 11th of August 2019. On the list
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I've reversed my initial decision and feel that she
should be inducted into the no agenda roundtable on today's
episode. So I've got my blade here at the ready. surd Yes. Oh,
beautiful. Thank you. So up on the podium, we need Stephenie
Meyer, Brian Holcomb and Steven conkel. The three of you have
joined the elite ranks of the no agenda, Knights and James and
that is due to your contribution of $1,000 or more and I am proud
to pronounce the case. cirrhosis of Brookhaven, Georgia, sir
really a night of the Santa Clara Valley. And Dame Stephanie
Dane needs to be filled in at a later time. We have workers and
blow rent boys and Chardonnay, we've got dirt cakes and a sixer
tropicalia IPA, we got pepperoni rolls and parallels, we got the
breast milk and pablum sparkling cider nests for ginger ale and
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at least the ones pertaining to your ring size. And he will get
that out to you as soon as possible. No one. All right. So
the meetups are becoming quite a thing. It seems that the meetups
may be the only thing keeping these new millennial bars going.
So we need to we need to continue with that. Also, I've
been requested to look for some WordPress administrative
assistants. As Daniel who's our dude named Daniel who set up no
agenda meetups.com could use some help because it got a lot
of cool features. They really want to make this kick ass
system. It's already much better than meetup.com least for our
purposes. So you can email admin at no agenda meetups.com Then we
have a quick report of the Murfreesboro meetup Murphy
Murfreesboro. This is from rich had a great time this past
Friday. It was such a varied group of people from different
backgrounds military pharma dudes named Ben, an owner of a
professional Christmas lighting company guy from Kentucky with
an encyclopedic knowledge of the different bourbons. Sounds like
COBOL to me. We're already setting up the next meetup just
so we can get together again and learn more about each other.
Thank you for your courage rich. So this is the kind of report
that we hear from these meetups and we have a couple that are
coming up for the next week, August 14, so Wednesday, Warsaw,
Poland, at the Mickler bar in Warsaw. And meeting no to all
the slaves in Warsaw, it's time for meetup the event will be on
the second floor of the Mickler bar in Warsaw details with no
agenda meetups.com On the 15th we have Michigan local one
midweek meet up at Dearborn five to 9pm you will be meeting at
the Henry Ford Museum for Star Trek happy hour. Oh yeah, baby.
Why am I not in Michigan? There's also some food and that
will be as see freedom Mexican cuisine. And you can find the
details on the no agenda meetup site then we have a meet up
report from southeast London. The precursor they do regular
meetups previously that interesting Oh, that's Oh, they
love it out there. The previous meetup approximately an hour and
a half into the meetup Alexei Alexei turned up. Approximately
20 minutes later, Rob anonymous appears in two dimension B style
replete with fluorescent yellow jacket and a battery powered
scooter. My god man, did he come to the right meetup. Assembly
semi semi regular 80 year old China man Matthew interrupts the
event. Je WFF declares Matthew to be a globalist extensive
triggering test of both attendees commences both passed
with flying colors. Good time had by all and such. This is it.
This is this is what it's I'm not quite sure, but it sounds
like it was good. Southeast London meetup 11. The amazing
amygdala shrinking beer something roll up roll up. That
will be held on the 15th of August the third Thursday of
every month. Why? Because every no agenda or deserves the
opportunity not to be triggered. It's at the real ale way. And
that's in Bromley in London. I think it's Kent. So look at the
site for that San Antonio in Texas this Saturday three to 7pm
San Antonio meet up at big hops on bitters. Bring your own foods
they do not have a kitchen. And there will be a table with the
Adam and John's her heads on sticks so you can't miss us. And
finally Sunday the 18th we have the Victoria BC meet up the
prettiest little town on the West Coast. No agenda meetups
it's like a party come out and meet the NA listeners in town
share a beverage or two at the tasting room. And that's on
Government Street in Victoria BC Canada Navia. So those your
meetups for the next week. Apparently they're a lot of fun
to go to and we are going to attend as many as possible. John
just did the the impromptu one in Berkeley and the keeper and I
will be attending some of these soon as well. No agenda.
meetups.com Wow. It's been a long show. I think we should do
a couple more stories.
John C. Dvorak: Well, I let me read something first, which is
important. This is from Paul couture and our thing about the
Drupal needed and now I gotta do
Adam Curry: this for no agenda art. generator.com Yeah,
John C. Dvorak: this is you saw the message you wanted somebody
to help he was going to give up on the whole thing. Well,
apparently he's changed his mind. Ah, okay. Very different.
But I should read this don't miss my life. Oh moment. He says
First off, I absolutely want to keep running the Art Generator.
I'm sorry. You forgot the impression we got the impression
from your note and talking to you. Yeah. That I find it to be
a burden that again was provided by you. I have been quite
swamped as me and a few partners have been diligently working to
build. Jay, when is it? I say IW TV dot live. And it's led me to
spending quite a bit of time on the highways and backroads in a
beautiful country. Oh gee yet another Cracker Barrel and
Walmart shopping center. such diversity to provide live
streams at a rate 4x higher than the Goliath of our industry.
Okay, well, that didn't you were busy. Yes. Second. Second. And
more importantly, I think the Drupal site was moved to a
Laravel back in mid 2014. Yeah. In mid 2014. For all the reasons
you mentioned about Drupal is increasing insanity. Oh. So
that's so he's, you know, he's a top guy. I also moved the code
base at that time to publicly forcible JIT repository yet
sorry.
Adam Curry: Wow. Miss requests or developer Devora how's your G
it's
John C. Dvorak: a G it's a soft it's always jet.
Unknown: Jeff. No, Jeff, you should be consistent and knew.
John C. Dvorak: I am insistent. Finally I got a brand new build
coming soon. I've been waiting on Laravel six to drop, drop,
and I plan to use some of the crazy medium. In the relation
skills I've picked up in the last three or four years as I've
had to become a bit of a crazed command line video, audio and
image editor to power some of the apps that make our network
work. I was close to releasing the news build or the new build.
When Tyler Atwell announced the version six of Laravel will be
coming in the next weeks. I feel it'd be far better to let that
roll out first to make sure I have the necessary changes done
in development. He's one of those. He's one of the you know
he's like voice zero songs new
Adam Curry: songs new installed. I think that's every dude named
Ben who loves loves his job. Does this
John C. Dvorak: so so? So anyway, so he says as an aside
that crazy former hit list, Drupal dev that now works on
making a Netflix look at like full of guys and gals play
fighting in their underwear. I don't know what that means. But
anyway, so. So bottom line is bought new time. He's a former
headless Drupal Dev.
Adam Curry: So we don't need any more help.
John C. Dvorak: We won't need anybody for the moment but you
have your games are putting on a list every day. You're 79 Guys,
you know,
Adam Curry: hey, you sent this you're now on a list. Okay?
You're on the list. You're on the Drupal list. It could be it
could come in handy.
John C. Dvorak: What sounds like it's not going to come in handy
of Paul's gone over to Laravel that he's not the only guy. I
mean, this is like, I think Drupal is being dumped.
Adam Curry: I don't know I haven't checked related to me. I
gotta look at the latest git repository. I
John C. Dvorak: see if I'm not a Drupal guy, so I don't know.
Never liked it to begin with.
Adam Curry: I know I'm still a repository I'm all Jedi over it.
I can't get over it's too good. Yeah,
John C. Dvorak: you should be Jedi.
Adam Curry: Okay, we cannot let the show go by without showing
you the the gaffe machine that is Joe Biden. There's always a
couple of good ones this week was was no disappointment. The
first one I would say is this
Unknown: we choose science over fiction. We choose truth over
facts
Adam Curry: I just love that the crowd loves it. We choose the
John C. Dvorak: truth over facts. Yes, Joe.
Adam Curry: We choose truth over facts. But then this one which
is really sad because it was a prompter misread. I saw it
happen. Joe's reading. He misread the prompter. He's
supposed to say rich kids can do just as well as wealthy kids.
But what's on his mind is because he's racist. On his mind
is rich black. That word is well white. Or he reads wealthy as
white whatever it was, it came out as white he like it was
yeah, he tries to save it. And then ads wealthy, you know,
because that's what that was the Word and the prompter, wealthy,
black, red, yellow, or whatever you're listening.
Unknown: And the other thing we should do is you should
challenge these students. We should challenge students in
these schools to have advanced placement programs in these
schools. We have this notion that somehow if you're poor, you
cannot do it. For kids who are just as bright and just as
talented as white kids. wealthy kids, black kids, Asian kids.
No, I really mean but think how we think about it.
Adam Curry: Same audience who thought that truth over facts
was great. They're applauding the racism that Dover truth.
Yes. No, it was truth over fact, truth was bad. But it was it was
a prompter misread and he tried to save it. But that's because
it's on his mind.
John C. Dvorak: Okay. He saved it. Okay.
Adam Curry: There was too much of a pause. And you you just
don't want to start with rich kids and then go to white. I
mean, you can see the guy he's
John C. Dvorak: I thought he saved it well for him. Okay.
Well, make sure you vote for him. It was too much of a pause
and it was obvious what was going on but it was he What did
save it? So if you if you quoted him, you would have to put the
whole sentence in there which Google the other stuff? Yeah,
but of course you heard it. Yeah, it's a gaffe.
Adam Curry: So what happened but this is not how the modern M
five M political process goes. The modern process is Hey,
soundbite everybody. By the way, I did want to mention this
statistic. Since I was reading a broadcast and cable magazine. I
do this all the time. Why? Well, because I get information man.
The 2020 election is coming to light Right, yes. Okay, here's a
little game, the 2020 election will generate. And I'm not going
to say the number in local political ad spending. And they
did this by estimating percentage increases over the
last election. So it's fairly good at broadcast and cable,
they have to predict things reasonably well, because their
industry trade magazine. So how much do you think is being
projected to be generated in local political ad spending for
the 2020? Election? Now, of course, take into account we
have 25 democratic hopefuls. So there's a lot of political ad
spending. And this includes television, internet, or online,
I think, as is represented and radio etc. What do you think the
total amount will be of local ad spend?
John C. Dvorak: 3.5 billion
Adam Curry: $6.5 billion. And it breaks down as follows the three
point Yeah, wow is right. Over the air television will get 40%
of local political spending or 3.0 8 billion. The next biggest
share will go to online and digital outlets with one point
37 billion representing a 21% Share. multichannel video
programming distributors will see 919,000,014% radio will get
312 million or 4.8%. With the remainder going to other media.
Oh, yes, podcasting expects to receive $7,500. Just kidding.
It's not in there. Delayed here is what was interesting. Because
these are local elections. And because I presume there's such a
large base of Democrats running in the primary. The number one
market for political advertising and 2020 is expected to be Los
Angeles with $368 million in spending. La TV stations
expected to rake in 168 million during the election digital
getting 76 million cable 55 and radio as a meager 70% Of that
total. So they are definitely getting some big money in in
this 2020 election in California. Huh? But that amount
was never enough that six and a half billion dollars. Do you
think that that's that's that's impressive people have seriously
want to choose their leaders, don't they? I mean, that's not
just coming from mom and pops with their $100 to Lizzie
Warren. And that's some real money.
John C. Dvorak: Money's coming from every which way.
Unknown: What does that man is encouraged?
Adam Curry: And what do you mean every which way?
John C. Dvorak: It's coming from big big boys, little boys. Moms,
dads, moms pops large corporations. Everyone. Farm
farmer banks, real estate.
Adam Curry: Unbelievable. This, how can anyone have one single
message with with all those ads? You just got to be saying yes to
everybody. And then hope you get in and then I guess whoever
spent gives you more money and apologize. Apologize a lot more
money system is sick. Man. If you gave us
John C. Dvorak: more money, it'd be better. Yeah. I mean, I'm not
against you some ISOs that I
Adam Curry: was just going to I was going to rant against what I
was gonna wrap. I was going to wrap it up with one last thing
about Biden. This came from Fox Business News.
Unknown: This is the week where markets began to price in the
possibility of no deal with China before the election. We
saw it happen. We saw the tick on Monday if that terrible drop
when the the reality of that seem to settle in is the market.
Right. No deal with China before the election?
Well, it's a good chance now of no deal. The President has been
making the case that the Chinese see the Democrats is softer,
much softer than he is on China trade, especially on
enforcement. And so I checked with the Chinese myself, David,
both their press and talking to Chinese individuals who advise
the government. They do believe that Biden will win. They've got
polls and their own assessment. Interestingly enough to back in
2016. They said Trump will win. He will carry Wisconsin,
Pennsylvania and Michigan. And I said no, that's not true. I'm
sure Hillary is gonna win. This is at some point in 2016. They
were right. But this time they seem to believe that Biden is
going to win, and that would explain the President's comments
are probably accurate. Now could it?
Adam Curry: Ta There you go. The Chinese maybe that's where part
of that six and a half billion comes from
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, that could be
Adam Curry: wouldn't be surprising. I mean that there's
always going to be all it has always been the rumors that
Obama got the hundreds of millions through from China
through credit cards.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, well, also from Saudi Arabia through credit
cards. Yeah. Well,
Adam Curry: it's kind of like the sealed indictments, I guess.
John C. Dvorak: It's exactly like the I do have three ISOs I
want you to consider, okay. None of them really. I said one of
them's on the show. The other ones are just kind of things
that are in the public domain that are floating around. I have
to kill all men
Unknown: cleaning to kill all men. Where does that come from?
Oh, that's
John C. Dvorak: from Jenny McDermott. She's a troller.
Yeah, a whole spiel. Oh, yeah.
Unknown: Yeah, yeah, it's quite good. Yeah,
Adam Curry: you have a lot of time.
John C. Dvorak: I was gonna break it down today's show but
we didn't have time. I'm
Adam Curry: glad we didn't miss troller All right, that's
John C. Dvorak: now this one is harder to come by. This is a
woman that just socialite New York socialite stoner named we
were the last name of Mueller and she has this I feel evil ISO
which I thought was really good, but I don't know if it's a good
enough quality. I feel evil.
Adam Curry: Now you're right. It's no doesn't work as an end
of show.
John C. Dvorak: It's a shame it was one of those concealed
microphone things are no good. And then I have a day in the
morning from a Jen writing in the morning.
Unknown: I personally like to kill all men. I
Adam Curry: think that's an end of show. So I mean, that's,
that's okay.
John C. Dvorak: That's the cleanest.
Adam Curry: It's also the most accurate, let's be honest.
Anything I do
John C. Dvorak: have I do have one clip on North Korea update
37 sectors to help us keep up with that.
Unknown: The South Korean military said today that North
Korea fired what they believe to be too short range ballistic
missiles into the sea. Today's launches were the fifth in less
than three weeks. The US and South Korea are currently
conducting joint military exercises which North Korea
calls war games and tweets this morning. President Trump said
that in a recent letter from North Korea leader Kim Jong Hoon
offered quote a small apology for testing the short range
missiles. The president said North Korea promised to stop the
launches when the joint military exercises and the US and South
Korea have scaled down combined drills since the first summit
between President Trump and Kim Jong on in 2018.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I thought they were going to do those. Those
mock practice things with South Korea military
John C. Dvorak: mounting ground military industrial complex and
we need to sound more mythos we got to blow some up or otherwise
we won't sell more.
Adam Curry: This, why does Trump let that happen? I'm telling
you, man, they got they got him on some drugs. They got him on
something. I don't know they twirled something in front of
his eyes. And I just don't understand that. Or maybe he's
choosing his battles. I'm not sure. But I can understand where
he said okay, we won't do that anymore. And then he does it.
Yeah, then Kim Jong Hoon is gonna light his little model
rockets. And then that looks shit for everybody. Not a shit,
though, is Jerry Nadler, this is just a short update. And yeah,
he is leading the impeachment charge completely blown off the
news cycle for now. So he's come up with a new way of explaining
what he does, which is exactly the same thing. Only now he's
kind of adding a very transparent twist to it.
Unknown: This is formal impeachment, impeachment
proceedings. We are investigating all the evidence
regarding the evidence. And we will at the conclusion of this
hopefully, by the end of the year, vote to vote Articles of
Impeachment to the House floor or we won't. That's a decision
that we'll have to make. But that both that's exactly the
process we're in right now.
Adam Curry: So the headline was formal impeachment proceedings,
which is completely meaningless. And I don't know why he thinks
that anyone's being fooled by this.
John C. Dvorak: I don't know what it's expected to
accomplish. It's just going to anger people.
Adam Curry: Well, and maybe even anger Nancy Pelosi, by the way,
just as a last one that you see AOC is now ripping her ex Chief
of Staff for divisive tweets about fellow Democrats. This is
in the New York Daily News. So now she's distancing herself so
John C. Dvorak: I remember she gave really read the riot act.
Yeah, I mostly read the riot act to her and she gotta guess.
Yeah, don't fall apart. Yeah.
Adam Curry: The last 15 minutes you've been falling apart. It's
I don't know. It's
John C. Dvorak: no, this is terrible. I gotta go. I'm making
I'm putting a call in I believe it's my connection.
Adam Curry: Well, you know, what we'll do is first of all, that's
not often that you will admit it's your connection. So this is
serious business people will have to end the show here.
John C. Dvorak: That's because I know witness my
Adam Curry: right. That'll do it for today. But we will return on
Thursday. There's I'm sure there's a lot to be
deconstructed broken down, discussed and queried. I'll make
sure I get botanic. Now either provide an update or maybe a
clip or two or we'll see what we do with that. We're
John C. Dvorak: supposed to ask him some things. We're just
supposed to ask him something specific.
Adam Curry: I'm sure I'll remember when I go through
today's show. Coming to you from the frontier of Austin, Texas,
it's the capital of the drone Star State FEMA Region number
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on Thursday at the vortec.org/na. Until then, in
the morning, everybody, I'm Adam curry.
John C. Dvorak: And I'm from Northern Silicon Valley where we
were ahead of this effort. I'm John C. Dvorak, we return
Adam Curry: on Thursday. together and in sync, right here
on no agenda. Until then Adios, mofos and such.
Unknown: My name is Chris Wilson. I'm the father of young
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John C. Dvorak: it's pronounced Jeff according to the guy who
Adam Curry: invented it's pronounced Judy according to the
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