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Unknown: Huh Oh yeah, yeah right
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Adam curry Jhansi Devorah

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Adam Curry: there's a July
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winning get my nation media
assassination episode 1152 This

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is no agenda celebrating America
by May and broadcasting live

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from the frontier of Austin,
Texas capital of the drone Star

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State in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam curry

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John C. Dvorak: and from
Northern Silicon Valley where we

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just missed the Zephyr and I've
got flags on my feet. I'm John

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C. Dvorak. Raglan Buzzkill.

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Adam Curry: You better not be
You better not be wearing him.

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You racist. Yes, yes.

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John C. Dvorak: Racist.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, Happy
Independence birthday, John.

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John C. Dvorak: Happy
Independence Day to everybody

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out there may be safe. Yes. And
our works illegal areas where

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she was always get their fingers
blown off.

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Adam Curry: And thank you to all
of the human resources of the

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United States who are keeping
our country running today.

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Because not everything closes.
I'm talking about my beautiful

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wife, the keeper working today
at the Ronald McDonald House.

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Yes, I wonder if you can't just
close the

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John C. Dvorak: facility. Kick
the kids out.

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Adam Curry: I've suggested this
very thing, but that didn't go

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over too well,

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John C. Dvorak: isn't it? Yeah.

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Adam Curry: Well, where to
start? Do you want to dive right

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into Nike or do you want to

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John C. Dvorak: ease into a Nike
because I got some good I

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actually picked I did a little
research. Oh, I

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Adam Curry: did a little
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my goodness. We did some
research. Well, this should be

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fun. Well, let's

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John C. Dvorak: start with the
bullshit story. from CBS is Nike

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shoe bullshit story.

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Unknown: Nike was set to sell a
new sneaker that featured a 13

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star American flag just in time
for the Fourth of July, but the

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company suddenly pulled them out
of stores. If Nike was trying to

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avoid a controversy though it
did not work. Here's Meg Oliver.

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Nike set off a firestorm after
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with the Betsy Ross flag, an
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flag with 13 Stars and Stripes
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was abolished. When you look at
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American flag. What does it
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It symbolizes I see. I see the
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leads directly to slavery.

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In some cases, the Betsy Ross
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supremacist groups like the kk k
conservatives lashed out against

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Nike Republican Senator Ted Cruz
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thing Nike only wants to sell
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American flag. Arizona's
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withdrew all financial
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Nike to invest in a $185 million
factory in Arizona and former

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Republican presidential
candidate Herman Cain tweeted,

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nothing can happen in America
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doesn't like it,

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believe in something. Even if it
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For NFL star Colin Kaepernick is
the face of Nikes just do a

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campaign he reportedly
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an offensive symbol of slavery.

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This is a great teaching moment.
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a history that most of us most
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with. In a

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statement. Nike doesn't mention
Kaepernick but says they made

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the decision to hold
distribution based on concerns

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that it could unintentionally
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nation's patriotic holiday.

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Thank you for bringing us both
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Adam Curry: Oh, that's, that's
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John C. Dvorak: So at the end,
at the end, I have a both sigh.

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I have the ISO of that because
it might come in handy. Thanks

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for both sides at the end. He
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you for bringing us both sides.
Good day, so

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Adam Curry: well. Wait, there's
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Did you just say that when Nike
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mention Kaepernick? Yeah.

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Unknown: Hold on, let me say not

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want to deal with in a
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Kaepernick, but says they made
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distribution based on concerns
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offend and detract from the
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Adam Curry: now, didn't they at
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Kaepernick was called them and
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John C. Dvorak: really they ever
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we got to the Kaepernick thing,
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we're gonna both conclude the
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over. Maybe, maybe not. Maybe
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I'm going to draw but I do want
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says that he makes a point at
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bringing us both sides here what
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do anyway, what would you do?
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which includes the comment that
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K, an operation that's not even
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Adam Curry: it's also not a
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John C. Dvorak: I never I don't
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Betsy Ross flag isn't anything?
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Adam Curry: There's a business
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which is, which I'd like to play
from Fox Business where they

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asked a couple of astute
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Unknown: pass through the cracks
of the full chain of command at

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Nike, where it goes into
production, these sneakers get

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made, and it takes a Colin
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isn't cool, right? What does
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They're supposed to be leaders.
I see them here. As followers.

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They say just do it. I think
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to Should we do it? Or should we
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because there was, there was
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Kaepernick got involved. And
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stock probably went down today
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Governor Ducey got involved and
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take away some of the incentives
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state. So that's why this might
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Yeah. For every action. There's
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Colin said what he said Nike
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reaction. Now we see the
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and what what comes after this,
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business, people don't like to
be pushed around and until Colin

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Kaepernick gets out front and
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communicator and starts to
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important to him, right? Because
then I wonder well, okay, this

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flag is no good. How about
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Philadelphia 70 Sixers logo with
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ideas now? I don't know. You got
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Adam Curry: okay. Do you want to
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John C. Dvorak: Well, this is a
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shoes, which will be back on the
market to give away was if it

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hasn't been given away by now.
That this this bull crap with

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the Arizona governor telling
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rebuked. He's back on board with
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plan in anyway, that's just less
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yesterday morning, it came out
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shoes already made, they're very
attractive shoes. there if you

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like Nike shoes, these are
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whether he said anything or not,
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with Nike, this whole thing is
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sell more shoes. This is a scam
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Adam Curry: That was my initial
reaction. Until I had a chat

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with the producer Moe, who
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about gotta explain what I think
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with something different, which
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is where the no agenda thinking
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sure how they would bring this
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John C. Dvorak: I don't think it
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Adam Curry: promotion, promotion
for a promotion busted for that

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a promotion. It's a promotion.
Now I'm going to go in territory

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where I don't belong, because I
am not the sports guy of the no

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agenda show. But let's look at
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when he burst onto the scene, he
was they and again, this is a

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lot of information I got from
from Moe. And Moe has standing.

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He knows about sports and he's
black so he can talk about some

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of these issues. He said look at
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about him being a black
quarterback. He was Colin

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Kaepernick. He had the low cut
hair. He was in GQ magazine. He

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was the hottie he was the he was
the next best thing. And, and

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when he got injured, the you
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back and he just couldn't get
back on the team and to review

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the genesis of his social
justice kneeling. This wasn't he

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didn't start off by kneeling
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all. He started off actually he
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been sitting on the bench during
the anthem for months before one

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photographer noticed it. And she
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his head. Hey, hold on a second.
How come you're not standing

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during the national anthem?
You're sitting on the bench?

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Whereas what? What one could say
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malcontent is the word. Like if
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I'm no good. I'm just sitting
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of a sudden, he was asked about
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famous interview, it is
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Unknown: that's evolved. It's
something as I've gained more

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knowledge about, you know what's
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past what's going on currently,
these are new situations. This

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isn't new ground. It's things
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country for years and years, and
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they need to continue. We
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continue to sit, I'm gonna
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people that are being oppressed.
To me, this is something that

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has to change. And when there's
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like that flag represents was
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country is representing people
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stand.

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Adam Curry: So he was sitting,
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And that's when I first became
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anything about sports. I don't
know that the guy was sitting.

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But it was not that he made a
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any political stance. He was
just being malcontents sitting

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on the bench and not getting up
and not even caring and again,

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just the opinions of people who
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I do in that same locker room
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Unknown: Not really too
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something happens, that's only
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this, you were talking to him
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you consulted with, if at any
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decided to do this.

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I mean, once again, it wasn't
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on. It was a conversation I had
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Dr. Edwards is a good friend.
He's someone I talked to a lot

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and run a lot they fine have a
lot of conversations with. And

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we have a lot of similar views.

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Adam Curry: So this is the same
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was any kneeling, and he's good
friends and was talking to Dr.

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Harry Edwards before the show.
Who is Dr. Harry Edwards? Does

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it ring a bell for you, John?
Because sure didn't for me.

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John C. Dvorak: Oh, yeah, no,
he's a big shot at University of

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California, and also probably
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Adam Curry: And he was
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getting in fact, it was 50 years
ago, the Olympic Project for

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Human Rights. He was the one
that inspired and, and got the

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American sprinters Tommie Smith
and John Carlos to raise their

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black glove, Black Power
salutes. When they won the

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metals in Mexico City. The guy
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So he's talking to Colin
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bench. And all of a sudden, it's
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a protest and and then he
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take a knee after former
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Boyer told him to do it, which
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against police brutality, and
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but a former player, perhaps
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Unknown: according to numerous
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felt it was disrespectful when
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to the reports, you were one of
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influence upon him in terms of
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opposed to sitting down for the
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everywhere.

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Could you explain the difference
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Yeah, the report, the reports
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of people, I think they, they
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protest or that I was behind. I
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protest social injustice is by
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the case. He was sitting I was
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I thought is disrespectful. It
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that conversation, we talked
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demonstrate, you know, what that
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community, in the military
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kneeling, showed reverence in
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to those that fought, and many
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for what that flag and the
anthem represents. People take a

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knee to pray. You know, anybody,
almost anybody stand in front of

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your, your wife to be you get
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her hand in marriage out of
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what you just explained. Did you
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Adam Curry: Yeah. So it wasn't a
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beginning, he was, I would
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Harry Edwards, and then he kind
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which would get more upfront and
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agreeable to everybody who was
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then we know what happens and
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Trump gets involved in all kinds
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Kaepernick gets his first Nike
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get hired after he quits as
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works, but he quit trying to get
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it was the helped me out here.
Who was it that the one had to

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hire him? Damnit,

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John C. Dvorak: do it doesn't
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Adam Curry: It doesn't. Well,
they were they said he was being

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blackballed, and then there was
a settlement and he got man like

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him and some other player got
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take away the lawyers fees. Then
he had a Nike ad, but actually

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his girlfriend at the time was
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the team whose name I can't
remember. She tweeted out a

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racist picture of the team owner
photoshopped into Django

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Unchained make it look like, you
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owner. And so, you know, then
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But who's but who's been doing
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typical in sports, there's a
lawyer, and the lawyer who did

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all these deals for him is Mark
Geragos. This should ring a

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bell. Gallegos is also the
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also lawyer for Let me see who
else did he had a couple of

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these fine people. And at one
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Where did we hear the gara
ghosts name? We heard the Gary

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ghost name in connection with a
Nike extortion suit, which was

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just dropped from the media. You
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which involved the one and only
Michael Avenatti. You remember,

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there was indictments and a big
big brouhaha. I think what

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happened here? You know now that
Colin Kaepernick has rebranded

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himself for the Nike ad he got
the big afro all of a sudden no

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longer he's Is he the sexy Super
Bowl, sexy ballplayer with all

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the abs. Now he's this social
justice warrior, who doesn't

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speak a good game really. And I
don't really remember him

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speaking about Trayvon Martin or
Mike Brown or hands up Don't

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shoot. Now this all came about
after this. After this incident

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where he was caught sitting
down, he turned it into

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kneeling. This to me, if you
take the names into account of

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Jesse Smollett, lawyer, Mark
Geragos, his direct connection

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with Michael Avenatti This isn't
extortion. This was this is Al

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Sharpton 2.0 I don't think that
this is this is a promotion key

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came his shoes show up then then
then I'm wrong, then I'm wrong.

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If the shoe show up, I'm wrong.
But this guy has nothing going

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for him and all of a sudden even
though he's not a spokesperson,

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he's not out there talking to
everybody about it. Just one

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little mentioned. They stop. I
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John C. Dvorak: But what it
where's the benefit to anybody?

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The payoff. Extortion deals are
result in cash.

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Adam Curry: They result in more
ads, they will result in more

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ads and Colin Kaepernick will be
doing more for Nike.

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John C. Dvorak: i Well, I don't
I'm not seeing that. Now. I'm

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this is again, I think the
Kaepernick thing was a red

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herring. I think Kaepernick is
already out of the picture

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because they move they move
along and these shoes will be

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back on the market because
they're very attractive shoes

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and people are getting demand
them back and kind of backlash

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and everything is all set up.
Now it's possible if it wasn't

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extortion thing that does
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where they go slick looking to
remove being extorted, we that's

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where we have to get a new
factory. I mean, they could do

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that I can see that happening.
But I think they went to Arizona

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and said, Hey, look, this is
just part of a promotion. I

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don't know why you're being
taken in by this, which is my

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theory.

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Adam Curry: And both are equally
possible. I mean, oh,

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John C. Dvorak: they only put
Yeah, the proof is in the

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pudding. The proof is in the
shoe is on the market competing

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theories in one end. And the
proof of one or the other will

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be whether the shoes show up
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whole thing though, here's the
problem I'm having with your

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theory. Is that why are they
bringing out a shoe with the

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Betsy Ross flag on it in the
first place? Why not? I mean, it

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is almost to incite this kind of
thing. Because there is going on

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right now and this Do you hear
this on the right wing talkers,

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a lot, the right wing talkers.
And I've noticed I started

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noticing this so much. Most of
my research went into getting to

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the bottom of it. The right wing
talkers are going on and on

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about how how, and this explains
if you remember the democratic

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national debate, there was no
American flags on the on the

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stage. Correct. And you listen
to the right wing talkers. And

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they'll tell you that well, you
know, there's research has

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indicated that if you see an
American flag, you become a

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Republican. Okay, and this
research is actually valid, but

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it's not recent research. And
the American flag has been

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disappearing from stages for
this for the problem is somewhat

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problematic because because of a
research report that was the

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first version of this was done
in 2008 10 years ago. And it was

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in the Political Psychology
journal, and it's titled is

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sowing patriots Isn't but
reaping nationalism consequences

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of exposure to the American flag
and this is well researched. And

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we're going to read from

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Adam Curry: maybe that's why
they didn't have the true

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American flag and the original
13 colonies flag so is still not

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to make people Republican by
looking at shoes, but it's

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possible possible

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John C. Dvorak: are they think
that flag is very attractive, by

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the way, just a brief exposure
to an image of the American flag

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ship. This is from the abstract
shifts, voters Even Democrats to

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Republican beliefs, attitudes
and voting behavior, even though

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most don't believe it will
impact their politics according

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to a new two year study just
published by the scholar the

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psychological science. What's
more, according to three authors

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from the University of Chicago,
Cornell and Hebrew University,

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the impact has staying powder
power, a single exposure to the

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American flag resulted in
significant increase in

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participants, Republican voting
intentions, voting behavior,

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political beliefs, and implicit
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attitudes, with some effects
lasting eight months. These

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results constitute the first
evidence that nonconscious prime

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priming effects from exposure to
a national flag can bias the

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citizenry toward one political
party and can have considerable

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durability. Now that that study
is backed up in 2011. Eight

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years ago, yeah, but hold on,
hold on,

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Adam Curry: hold on, hold on,
you're conflating a lot of

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things. No,

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John C. Dvorak: no, I'm just I'm
just reading the additional

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information you can you can
analyze it after I'm done. I'm

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not conflating anything. I'm
just reading from an abstract.

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This is the one that actually
studies axing, and this was done

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in dissociation for
Psychological Science. A single

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exposure to the American flag
shifts support toward

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Republicanism up to eight months
later. And this is that's

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another whole research. And this
was all done a while ago. But if

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you listen to right wing
talkers, you think that this

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happened yesterday, all this
information is not yesterday has

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been going on for a while. The
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both know it, the Democrats keep
the flag off to stages. If they

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can, Obama didn't do that. He
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The Republicans try to get the
flags up who they don't try hard

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enough. That which seems to me
to be stupid. So the Republicans

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are dumb and the Democrats are
being kind of wily. This is

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became a topic of conversation a
little before the shoes came

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out. So when the flag shows up
on the shoes, I think is started

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this discussion underlying
discussions going on, because

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they brought this to everybody's
attention. So the Democrats and

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Republicans are now taking two
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are an emblematic aspect of it,
and Nikes just taken advantage

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of it. Okay,

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Adam Curry: so you're telling me
that a $100 billion company,

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international company, sat down
at a marketing meeting and said,

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Here's a great idea. We will use
race, race to promote the shoes

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resulting in this kind of
discourse on bullcrap news

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television,

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Unknown: Yeah, cuz, you know,
words matter. Symbols matter,

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too. Why don't we wear a
swastika for July 4? Because I

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don't know it makes it makes a
difference. The cross burning on

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somebody's lawn? Why don't we
just have a Nike, you know,

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celebration of the crowd? Well,
because those those symbols are

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symbols of hate. So we can take
PC culture back, it's amazing to

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me that people who will cry the
loudest about PC are the ones

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who didn't show up on the
friendsfirst occurred, who

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didn't defend the people who
were victims of white supremacy

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or racism or sexism or misogyny.
But now pop up and say, Hey,

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let's not be too PC, if you
ain't fought the battle, if you

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haven't celebrated the process,
you can't claim the product. So

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at this point, I think people
need to be honest about it and

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say, it's not a matter of PC.
There are many people within

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communities of color who
understand complexity

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complication, you can't have it
the way you want it, but

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something so glaring and so
apparent, that has to be dealt

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with.

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Adam Curry: So Nike actually had
this meeting and said this is a

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great idea. We're going to use
race to divide everybody

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John C. Dvorak: involved in and
and lay the flag the flag.

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Republic does all these
turnouts. I just read you the

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you're criticizing me for both
of them aren't talking about

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race. Neither one of them talks
about race. They're talking

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about the controversy between
Democrats and Republicans Colin

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Adam Curry: Kaepernick, but
Colin Kaepernick didn't say

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anything about the flag and that
he's the report

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John C. Dvorak: is is racist,
but you have a tape of Colin

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Kaepernick saying anything is
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Adam Curry: Thank you. This is
exactly my point. Exactly my

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point. Why is that there's
nothing he's not out there being

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a big social justice warrior
against this. It's Nike set up

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we got to call. We got to pull
it off the shelves. Really? No,

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yes. No, no, no, no. This is
extortion who

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John C. Dvorak: show back up?
And they may even be part of a

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longer term strategy where they
don't really show back then

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Adam Curry: Nike shouldn't be
Wish find themselves flags. Nike

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should be ashamed of themselves.
And if flags and if Colin

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Kaepernick shows up doing doing
more Nike promotion or some kind

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of political correctness
promotion whatever it is

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somewhere someone got paid off
for this I just can't believe

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that a company would risk their
the whole operation. What if

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that came out? Hey, I got a
great idea. We're gonna promote

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this coming

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John C. Dvorak: out this is just
my thesis This is our shot. This

444
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is this is not even close to
coming out. It's never gonna

445
00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:36,600
come out. This is

446
00:25:36,870 --> 00:25:39,870
Adam Curry: well, the promotion
part. I've heard several

447
00:25:39,870 --> 00:25:43,860
people's take on this and you
know, it's it's a reasonable

448
00:25:43,860 --> 00:25:49,020
thought. But it's really not
because there's no way a company

449
00:25:49,020 --> 00:25:51,630
like this comes up with that
kind of marketing strategy where

450
00:25:51,630 --> 00:25:54,810
they kept it secret. Now we'll
have these great shoes I don't

451
00:25:54,810 --> 00:25:57,090
know what it cost to bring some
shoes to market but it's you

452
00:25:57,090 --> 00:25:59,640
know, you got design you got
manufacturer you got shipping

453
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,670
packaging, you got marketing,
slave labor, and then and then

454
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all of a sudden, we're gonna
pull back this a great idea.

455
00:26:05,460 --> 00:26:08,520
We're gonna create some some
some political and racial

456
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controversy just before July 4

457
00:26:11,370 --> 00:26:13,920
John C. Dvorak: Different
Oregon, are they I don't think

458
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,220
the racial thing was an element.
I think it just happened to come

459
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into it. Because who would think
that Betsy Ross flag had

460
00:26:20,010 --> 00:26:22,980
anything to do with race? It was
like was that was the crazy

461
00:26:22,980 --> 00:26:27,150
part. The crate is so far as far
as the marketing guys concerned.

462
00:26:27,270 --> 00:26:28,560
That's a bonus.

463
00:26:28,590 --> 00:26:31,800
Adam Curry: All right. Well, I
think you're wrong and we shall

464
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:37,830
see. But please believe me that
the Al Sharpton and Jesse

465
00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:41,820
Jackson model has not kept up
with technology has not kept up.

466
00:26:42,360 --> 00:26:45,480
They've not kept up with the
with the perfect scam. They're

467
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,110
not doing it right anymore. This
is a good one and look at the

468
00:26:49,110 --> 00:26:52,950
people involved. Marghera goes
Michael Avenatti, who were

469
00:26:52,950 --> 00:26:55,110
indicted for extorting Nike,

470
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John C. Dvorak: Michael Avenatti
had nothing to do with the Betsy

471
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Ross flag incident. There's no
connection between Avenatti and

472
00:27:04,350 --> 00:27:06,540
this particular thing you're
talking about connection

473
00:27:06,570 --> 00:27:10,110
Adam Curry: is between Avenatti
and Geragos, who were both named

474
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:16,350
in an extortion suit against
Nike this past year. There was

475
00:27:16,410 --> 00:27:20,220
they tried to extort $20 million
by saying that Nike was going

476
00:27:20,220 --> 00:27:20,520
around

477
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,880
John C. Dvorak: that was I'm I'm
not arguing that. That's a fact.

478
00:27:24,090 --> 00:27:28,200
Adam Curry: Colin Kaepernick is
a client of Mark Geragos. Yes,

479
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:28,740
he's trying

480
00:27:29,010 --> 00:27:30,780
John C. Dvorak: to guilt by
association thing, which I think

481
00:27:30,780 --> 00:27:33,840
is valid in this case, except
for Avenatti. He's got nothing

482
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:40,080
to do with this scam. Okay.
Well, I mean, he does, he's

483
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:45,090
really fucked. But now I know
what you think. And I think it's

484
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a good, I think it's very well
constructed. But unless, if the

485
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shoes don't come out, then
you're right. All right. That's

486
00:27:54,390 --> 00:27:55,800
it's that simple. And it doesn't

487
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,750
Adam Curry: count if they come
out with a different flag.

488
00:28:00,690 --> 00:28:04,590
John C. Dvorak: No, actually,
I'm thinking, what if, from a

489
00:28:04,590 --> 00:28:07,860
marketing perspective, what you
want to do is come out with a

490
00:28:07,860 --> 00:28:10,650
bunch of different flags,
including the Betsy Ross flag.

491
00:28:11,010 --> 00:28:15,000
Well, Betsy Ross flag has to be
in play. Because that guy that

492
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,730
black professor is going on
about the Betsy Ross flag being

493
00:28:17,730 --> 00:28:21,990
something to do with slavery is
ludicrous, right? But did you

494
00:28:21,990 --> 00:28:25,530
know he's all American flags?
Did you notice slave flag?

495
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,890
Adam Curry: Did you notice how
the mainstream jumped on this

496
00:28:29,130 --> 00:28:34,740
couldn't come up with an actual
historical reason why this flag

497
00:28:34,770 --> 00:28:40,320
is racist. And so the narrative
has become there are groups who

498
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:46,770
use that flag Yeah, that's
that's the bull crap right there

499
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:47,220
look at

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John C. Dvorak: the kid just
can't can't can't have any

501
00:28:48,930 --> 00:28:52,920
website. I want to see if their
website has events. You know

502
00:28:52,920 --> 00:29:03,360
what this is John, this is truly
a false flag. Come on now. Cake,

503
00:29:03,450 --> 00:29:04,650
Unknown: my goodness.

504
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,920
John C. Dvorak: I'm looking here
at the K K K. in June. They got

505
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:15,000
a they got a Nazi symbol on a on
a cloverleaf they got a bunch of

506
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:20,730
things but I'm not seeing Betsy
Ross. So this is I think you're

507
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,000
I think that by the way, I think
you're dead on that has to be

508
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,720
what happened. The media had
this thing. They had to find

509
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,870
some connection to racism so
they find maybe there's one

510
00:29:30,870 --> 00:29:36,120
group of some old layer or
whatever they call themselves as

511
00:29:36,270 --> 00:29:41,430
Betsy Ross flag is a symbol I
don't know of it. I'm not sure

512
00:29:41,430 --> 00:29:46,740
not shown as a symbol in blue
and the What the hell is the

513
00:29:46,740 --> 00:29:49,830
name of that clan movie that was
done by

514
00:29:52,710 --> 00:29:55,290
Adam Curry: Spike Lee. Black
Klansmen?

515
00:29:55,710 --> 00:29:58,200
John C. Dvorak: Well, there's
one was there a Betsy Ross flag

516
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,370
in that I don't know. I don't
think so. I

517
00:30:02,370 --> 00:30:04,470
don't think so. And it wasn't in
the movie. I'm thinking of the

518
00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:09,030
great movie that was done in the
late 20s That something of

519
00:30:09,030 --> 00:30:12,300
nations Birth of a Nation, Birth
of a Nation was about the

520
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,510
origins of the clan. And there
was no Betsy Ross flag ever

521
00:30:15,540 --> 00:30:18,420
referenced this bullcrap. So the
three should be called out on

522
00:30:18,420 --> 00:30:18,600
this.

523
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,750
Adam Curry: So the genesis of
the story is from The Wall

524
00:30:21,750 --> 00:30:25,320
Street Journal. And I'll read
from the story Nike Inc. is

525
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,220
yanking a USA themed sneaker
featuring an early American flag

526
00:30:29,220 --> 00:30:32,430
after NFL star turned activist
Colin Kaepernick told the

527
00:30:32,430 --> 00:30:35,850
company it shouldn't sell a shoe
with a symbol that he and others

528
00:30:35,850 --> 00:30:39,840
consider offensive. according to
people familiar with the matter.

529
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:49,020
Yeah. So with the matter so this
so I don't think Kaepernick even

530
00:30:49,020 --> 00:30:53,490
called the company cat someone
started someone started this

531
00:30:53,490 --> 00:30:56,940
thing go on, maybe it went
straight to the to the Wall

532
00:30:56,940 --> 00:30:59,430
Street Journal who knows who it
was, according to people

533
00:30:59,430 --> 00:31:06,180
familiar or familiar with the
matter? And I think Nike heard

534
00:31:06,180 --> 00:31:10,020
this when Holy crap. We got to
stop this shit. Yeah,

535
00:31:10,050 --> 00:31:12,420
John C. Dvorak: that's a
possibility. But that against it

536
00:31:12,420 --> 00:31:15,600
says issues will never come up.
But after reading it from

537
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,180
another person. Let me just read
this and Kaepernick is a public

538
00:31:18,180 --> 00:31:22,170
personality. He's has an agent,
you can call him Why does the

539
00:31:22,170 --> 00:31:25,920
Wall Street Journal not call him
why? Let me read this. You can

540
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,480
say he's not available for
comment. Let

541
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,480
Adam Curry: me read the next let
me read the next paragraph. He

542
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,450
would answer your question after
images of the shoe were posted

543
00:31:33,450 --> 00:31:37,260
online Mr. Kaepernick and Nike
endorser with no more contract

544
00:31:37,470 --> 00:31:40,470
reached out to company officials
saying that he and others felt

545
00:31:40,470 --> 00:31:43,260
the Betsy Ross flag is an
offensive symbol because of its

546
00:31:43,260 --> 00:31:47,640
connection to an era of slavery.
The people said some users on

547
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,520
social media responded to posts
about the shoe with similar

548
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,940
concerns. Mr. Kaepernick
declined to comment.

549
00:31:56,430 --> 00:31:58,620
John C. Dvorak: Now if this way,
why would he declined to

550
00:31:58,620 --> 00:31:59,340
comment?

551
00:31:59,460 --> 00:32:02,100
Adam Curry: Because all it had
to happen was this news had to

552
00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:03,630
come out so that they would be

553
00:32:04,380 --> 00:32:06,450
John C. Dvorak: talking from
your that perspective hell with

554
00:32:06,450 --> 00:32:10,740
that, I'm talking about the
journalistic perspective. If

555
00:32:10,740 --> 00:32:14,250
you're writing a story, and this
guy's got it, you got a rumor

556
00:32:14,250 --> 00:32:16,890
that this guy said something,
and he's a public personality

557
00:32:16,890 --> 00:32:19,170
with an agent and you can get a
hold of him. And apparently they

558
00:32:19,170 --> 00:32:22,950
did. But he declined to comment.
Why would he declined to

559
00:32:22,950 --> 00:32:26,880
comment? He's an activist, he
would have commented. Exactly.

560
00:32:26,910 --> 00:32:29,460
Maybe the story is bogus. Maybe

561
00:32:29,460 --> 00:32:33,300
Adam Curry: it was gara ghosts
who said maybe I'll have Colin

562
00:32:33,300 --> 00:32:34,650
talk about your damn shoe.

563
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,590
John C. Dvorak: Well, that no,
that's getting into the

564
00:32:37,620 --> 00:32:43,890
conspiracy side of things. But
what I what I do, again, why

565
00:32:43,890 --> 00:32:47,970
wouldn't they quote gara ghosts,
because they are a journalist

566
00:32:47,970 --> 00:32:50,400
and you're writing this story.
You're getting people on the

567
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,880
record on this one, because it's
not like a secret in the White

568
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,730
House is not something from the
CIA that you can be thrown in

569
00:32:56,730 --> 00:33:01,650
jail for revealing this is a
simple thing. Yeah, well, maybe

570
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,710
it isn't. Gara goes get quoted,
why doesn't Kaepernick get voted

571
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,800
to people familiar with the
thing? Who is who was the

572
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,750
people? Why don't we quote them?

573
00:33:09,780 --> 00:33:11,670
Adam Curry: Well, that's why I
was so interested when I heard

574
00:33:11,670 --> 00:33:15,780
your your clip. They said there
was no mention of Kaepernick in

575
00:33:15,780 --> 00:33:18,660
the retraction of the shoe
announcement. That's

576
00:33:18,660 --> 00:33:19,410
interesting.

577
00:33:22,050 --> 00:33:24,210
John C. Dvorak: The whole thing
stinks. Yes,

578
00:33:24,270 --> 00:33:26,370
Adam Curry: but we'll keep it at
this we'll keep it between

579
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:31,320
promotion and blackmail. And and
we'll keep it and we can

580
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:32,250
disagree on this.

581
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,640
John C. Dvorak: Well, we won't
be disagreeing forever No, no,

582
00:33:35,639 --> 00:33:37,409
Adam Curry: no when I'm right
you will come to me and you will

583
00:33:37,409 --> 00:33:37,619
come

584
00:33:37,919 --> 00:33:38,669
John C. Dvorak: not gonna happen

585
00:33:43,500 --> 00:33:48,000
Adam Curry: All righty then.
Congratulations to gab.com they

586
00:33:48,030 --> 00:33:52,410
joined the well at least they
they released their new system

587
00:33:52,410 --> 00:34:00,630
today. Which is a mastodon clone
or fork I should say. And they

588
00:34:00,630 --> 00:34:04,410
have not completely federated
yet. I haven't been able to. I

589
00:34:04,410 --> 00:34:07,920
can follow myself from no agenda
social.com on gab. I haven't

590
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,410
been able to do it the other way
around. Posts aren't showing up

591
00:34:10,410 --> 00:34:15,990
yet. But it's a big thing that
they're doing. And already the

592
00:34:16,020 --> 00:34:20,370
social justice Mastodon
fediverse Is is laughing at them

593
00:34:20,430 --> 00:34:22,740
and tell them that they're
losers.

594
00:34:23,700 --> 00:34:26,880
John C. Dvorak: Why don't your
if you're into this federated

595
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,630
thing like you are because they
why would you not just

596
00:34:30,630 --> 00:34:32,790
encouraged the whole world to
go? Well?

597
00:34:35,190 --> 00:34:38,640
Adam Curry: No, the Fed of the
you know, the fediverse is run

598
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,450
by social justice warriors. You
know, it's built by them. Oh,

599
00:34:42,450 --> 00:34:44,490
John C. Dvorak: yes. That's
right. You told me this is built

600
00:34:44,490 --> 00:34:47,100
Adam Curry: by them. They're
ready to block as soon as they

601
00:34:47,100 --> 00:34:48,180
come online. Not everyone.

602
00:34:48,510 --> 00:34:50,490
John C. Dvorak: Of course that
did they're phonies. They're

603
00:34:50,490 --> 00:34:53,970
just a bunch of Nazis that you
that sir. That's right. Yeah,

604
00:34:53,970 --> 00:34:56,280
Adam Curry: that's what that's
what they're saying. Yeah. So

605
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,680
now that you know they've got
this up and running and it's not

606
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,470
really up and running yet.
immediately, it's like oh,

607
00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:06,270
losers. I say give him give him
a week or so to get everything

608
00:35:06,270 --> 00:35:09,300
going. It'll take longer than
that. Maybe he's, you know, you

609
00:35:09,300 --> 00:35:14,070
got a lot. You got a lot of
users. You're trying to make the

610
00:35:14,310 --> 00:35:17,250
Pub Sub activity work and
everything. I can just see all

611
00:35:17,250 --> 00:35:25,350
the problems. But it's, it's a
start. It's a start. Well, good.

612
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,670
John C. Dvorak: It's gab is a
little more open than Twitter,

613
00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:30,450
that's for sure.

614
00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:33,360
Adam Curry: Well, yeah, but
yeah, and there's more and more

615
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:38,250
Nazis, which is a lot more fun.
Well, I'm actually seen a single

616
00:35:38,250 --> 00:35:41,850
Nazi posts. I don't really do
much on gab. I just

617
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:44,640
John C. Dvorak: shut it down. So
why this bit seems to me to be

618
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,780
pretty much like Twitter only a
little more. Complaining.

619
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,350
Adam Curry: Yeah. And you don't
see posts with this tweet is not

620
00:35:52,350 --> 00:35:55,920
available. I don't see that.
Which is thing that bothers me

621
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:56,580
the most?

622
00:35:56,790 --> 00:35:59,370
John C. Dvorak: Well, I mean, I
hope I never go to gab and see

623
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,230
this tweet is not available.

624
00:36:03,630 --> 00:36:06,720
Adam Curry: Anyway, moving away
from the United States for a

625
00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:14,220
moment. We have some big news
coming from Hero land from the

626
00:36:14,220 --> 00:36:18,960
Eurozone, as it looks like,
there have been some decisions

627
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:26,250
made in the leadership. Now, the
way it works in and I have a

628
00:36:26,250 --> 00:36:28,290
couple of clips here the way it
works in the European

629
00:36:28,290 --> 00:36:30,360
Parliament, we have the
European, the European

630
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,270
Parliament, which we have a
president, we have the European

631
00:36:33,270 --> 00:36:36,660
Commission, we have the European
Council, and we have the

632
00:36:36,660 --> 00:36:41,490
European Central Bank. And you
recall that we had the Spitz and

633
00:36:41,490 --> 00:36:47,310
kind of dot process, which is
each of the parties of the big

634
00:36:47,310 --> 00:36:50,670
parties and each of the 27
member states that all say okay,

635
00:36:50,670 --> 00:36:53,040
here's here's the person we
would like to have as the

636
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:58,080
president of the Council of the
commission of the Parliament,

637
00:36:58,380 --> 00:37:02,640
and choose between one of these
and then I think it is the

638
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,880
council itself, who goes into
the back room and deliberates

639
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,110
for days on end. And they choose
by secret ballot, they choose

640
00:37:10,110 --> 00:37:12,780
the winners. It doesn't
necessarily have to be the Spitz

641
00:37:12,780 --> 00:37:14,820
and Connie dot, interestingly
enough,

642
00:37:14,910 --> 00:37:17,340
Unknown: was more than just a
little frustration amongst MEPs

643
00:37:17,340 --> 00:37:19,770
here in Strasbourg about what
has happened over the last

644
00:37:19,770 --> 00:37:23,220
couple of days that yet again,
it is the council that is taking

645
00:37:23,220 --> 00:37:27,120
control of who should get the
top jobs in Europe for the last

646
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,540
couple of decades. This place,
the European Parliament has been

647
00:37:30,540 --> 00:37:34,020
trying to exert its authority,
its legitimacy, it would argue,

648
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:38,490
as the only directly elected
elements of the EU institutions,

649
00:37:38,940 --> 00:37:41,910
that it should be able to put
forward its candidates to take

650
00:37:41,910 --> 00:37:44,850
over those leads jobs. That's
what the Spitz and candidate

651
00:37:44,850 --> 00:37:48,660
process was all about. It
happened in 2014, with John

652
00:37:48,660 --> 00:37:53,190
Claude Juncker, but it seems to
have now died with John Claude

653
00:37:53,220 --> 00:37:56,820
Juncker. Because when you look
at it, none of the lead

654
00:37:56,820 --> 00:37:59,730
candidates from this parliament
have managed to make it into

655
00:37:59,730 --> 00:38:03,750
those top jobs. They are
frustrated here because they

656
00:38:03,750 --> 00:38:06,600
look at those decisions made in
Brussels in the back rooms in

657
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,990
which EU leaders have been
essentially writing down names

658
00:38:09,990 --> 00:38:13,530
and scratching out at others
that is not as they would say

659
00:38:13,530 --> 00:38:17,580
here, very transparent, not very
democratic. cratic

660
00:38:17,700 --> 00:38:20,190
Adam Curry: So who exactly was
chosen? Well, it should come as

661
00:38:20,190 --> 00:38:23,910
no surprise that a German leader
is always needed at the at the

662
00:38:23,910 --> 00:38:28,590
head of the European Union
project, since it truly is the

663
00:38:28,590 --> 00:38:32,400
German rice that is running this
resor Germany's gotta have gotta

664
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,090
have a German running the show,
but we know what the choices

665
00:38:36,090 --> 00:38:38,760
were based on because we
actually titled one of our shows

666
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,390
after the reason for the choice
of the people who have been

667
00:38:42,420 --> 00:38:43,050
chosen

668
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,390
Unknown: national leaders have
finally agreed on the

669
00:38:45,390 --> 00:38:49,140
nominations for the EU top jobs,
but their choices still have to

670
00:38:49,140 --> 00:38:52,500
be approved by the European
Parliament, to women have been

671
00:38:52,500 --> 00:38:55,620
proposed for key posts.
Germany's defense minister

672
00:38:55,650 --> 00:38:59,340
Ursula from the Leyen to head
the EU Commission, and the

673
00:38:59,340 --> 00:39:02,970
French head of the IMF Christine
Lagarde, the European Central

674
00:39:02,970 --> 00:39:07,080
Bank. Well, the European Council
made up of leaders from all 28

675
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,560
member states that spent a
grueling three days in Brussels

676
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,480
trying to thrash out a
compromise

677
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,200
after marathon negotiations
holding the leaders in Brussels

678
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,040
for three days. Finally, an
agreement. Belgium Prime

679
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,130
Minister shall Michel the only
person actually present at this

680
00:39:23,130 --> 00:39:26,970
summit full take one of the top
jobs as European Council

681
00:39:26,970 --> 00:39:30,960
President, but it's the last
minute outside a German defense

682
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,050
minister Ursula von der Leyen,
who sat to take what's

683
00:39:34,050 --> 00:39:37,980
considered Europe's top job and
become President of the European

684
00:39:37,980 --> 00:39:38,460
Commission.

685
00:39:39,030 --> 00:39:43,980
We have chosen two women and two
men for the four key positions.

686
00:39:45,180 --> 00:39:48,930
Perfect gender balance. There it
is. I'm really happy about it.

687
00:39:48,930 --> 00:39:49,470
After all

688
00:39:49,470 --> 00:39:52,500
Europe is a woman. The other
woman is Christine Lagarde. Did

689
00:39:52,500 --> 00:39:53,850
Adam Curry: you know that Europe
is a woman?

690
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,240
John C. Dvorak: Does that what
he said? Yeah,

691
00:39:57,240 --> 00:39:59,160
Adam Curry: after all, it's
first of all, he says gender

692
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,440
balance we knew That's what I
was going to come down to. Oh,

693
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,410
we got two women we got two men
were gender balance. We are so

694
00:40:04,410 --> 00:40:05,160
fair

695
00:40:05,190 --> 00:40:10,470
Unknown: positions. Perfect
gender balance. I'm really happy

696
00:40:10,470 --> 00:40:12,300
about it. After all Europe is a
woman.

697
00:40:12,330 --> 00:40:14,820
Adam Curry: There you go. Europe
is a woman remark. Just remember

698
00:40:14,820 --> 00:40:15,090
that

699
00:40:15,210 --> 00:40:17,550
Unknown: the other woman is
Christine Lagarde, head of the

700
00:40:17,550 --> 00:40:20,940
International Monetary Fund and
former French finance minister.

701
00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:24,900
Notably the European Commission
president is not being selected

702
00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:28,080
as the lead candidate from the
winning political grouping in

703
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,470
the European Parliament. That
would have been Manfred Veva

704
00:40:31,470 --> 00:40:35,730
from the EPP while von der Leyen
is from the EPP political

705
00:40:35,730 --> 00:40:39,420
family, this choice may mean the
so called Spitz and candidate

706
00:40:39,420 --> 00:40:41,370
system is now over.

707
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,520
Adam Curry: So not only did they
not choose to they want

708
00:40:44,610 --> 00:40:47,250
John C. Dvorak: Oh, hold on a
second. So that's a huge

709
00:40:47,250 --> 00:40:50,190
surprise that the actual way
that might be somewhat

710
00:40:50,190 --> 00:40:52,230
democratic is now kicked out the
door.

711
00:40:52,710 --> 00:40:58,380
Adam Curry: Goodbye. And, and,
and we take home of the Brexit

712
00:40:58,380 --> 00:41:03,000
party, Nigel Farage his party in
the European Parliament, she was

713
00:41:03,030 --> 00:41:04,110
pissed off about it.

714
00:41:04,140 --> 00:41:07,200
Unknown: Thank you, President.
It's a great honor to speak on

715
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:12,540
behalf of the largest single
party in this place. And now I

716
00:41:12,540 --> 00:41:17,340
say that I if I needed any
convincing at all, that the best

717
00:41:17,340 --> 00:41:21,750
thing for Britain is to leave
here as soon as possible. It was

718
00:41:21,750 --> 00:41:25,380
the way that those elections
were conducted yesterday.

719
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:31,560
Because if that is this place is
ideal of democracy, then that is

720
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:36,480
a serious betrayal of every
country that is represented

721
00:41:36,510 --> 00:41:41,820
here, because it is not
democratic at all. And that is

722
00:41:41,820 --> 00:41:47,550
just one of many reasons why
Britain is right to be leaving

723
00:41:47,550 --> 00:41:53,190
this place, hopefully on
Halloween. And it is right

724
00:41:53,220 --> 00:41:59,190
because there is a pattern
consistent throughout history of

725
00:41:59,190 --> 00:42:04,740
oppressed people turning on the
oppressors, slaves against their

726
00:42:04,740 --> 00:42:10,590
owners, the peasantry against
the feudal barons, colonies Mr.

727
00:42:10,590 --> 00:42:16,200
Verhofstadt against their
empires. And that is why Britain

728
00:42:16,260 --> 00:42:22,140
is leaving. And it doesn't
matter which language you use,

729
00:42:22,260 --> 00:42:27,630
we are going and we are glad to
be going. I represent the

730
00:42:27,630 --> 00:42:34,320
southwest of the United Kingdom.
come to conclusion, please,

731
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:39,450
first day that this place has
decided this This place hasn't

732
00:42:39,450 --> 00:42:45,210
the powers that be have decided
to actually increase the size of

733
00:42:45,210 --> 00:42:49,980
fisherman's meshes, thereby
reducing their income by 40%.

734
00:42:50,100 --> 00:42:56,940
That's what you do here. That's
why we're going there gang were

735
00:42:56,940 --> 00:43:00,630
off. Again,

736
00:43:02,130 --> 00:43:05,190
Adam Curry: the troll room
correctly identified this as a

737
00:43:06,390 --> 00:43:10,020
as a complete dead ringer for
any Monty Python sketch. You

738
00:43:10,020 --> 00:43:13,950
sounded so much like it, and
then to end it with via again, I

739
00:43:13,950 --> 00:43:14,730
didn't know but like

740
00:43:14,730 --> 00:43:17,190
John C. Dvorak: those those
those women in the 3030s

741
00:43:17,190 --> 00:43:21,330
comedies that used to have that
hype, when I don't like it, yes.

742
00:43:22,620 --> 00:43:26,070
That's the worry common
character in the 1930s. WC

743
00:43:26,070 --> 00:43:30,600
Fields used by the Marx Brothers
used them. I can think of a few

744
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,570
of the names Marjorie, I can't
remember her last name. There's

745
00:43:33,570 --> 00:43:38,790
a bunch of them and they could
do that voice. went to dinner, a

746
00:43:38,790 --> 00:43:43,170
friend of mines house one time
and, and outside of these other

747
00:43:43,170 --> 00:43:46,050
than several hours outside of
Paris, and yet, they brought

748
00:43:46,050 --> 00:43:49,620
over their cousin or something.
And she was a young woman about

749
00:43:50,010 --> 00:43:54,840
in her I guess, 30s may or young
30s or late 20s Maybe. And she

750
00:43:54,870 --> 00:43:59,670
as a young person actually had
that voice. I've never heard it

751
00:43:59,670 --> 00:44:03,420
in the wild ever. I was my jaw
was dropped the whole time.

752
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,360
Adam Curry: I learned something
but he talked like that I

753
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,990
learned something new in that
clip that the EU, EU was

754
00:44:09,990 --> 00:44:12,930
determining what kind of toilet
you can have, how much water it

755
00:44:12,930 --> 00:44:15,900
can flush what kind of light
bulb you can have. These are all

756
00:44:15,900 --> 00:44:18,630
things that people get pretty
irked about good to the public.

757
00:44:18,780 --> 00:44:22,260
I did not realize that they had
put in a regulation to increase

758
00:44:22,260 --> 00:44:27,000
the nets the size of the netting
apparently so the smaller fish

759
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,990
get through these guys. They're
brazen man. Oh, no, no, that

760
00:44:30,990 --> 00:44:35,520
nets illegal. Oh, you can use
that. There isn't before I have

761
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,070
one more thing from Nigel
Farage. But there's also now a

762
00:44:38,070 --> 00:44:43,380
European directive for electric
vehicles in the EU, I think by

763
00:44:43,380 --> 00:44:50,100
2022 They all have to make
noise. Because otherwise, blind

764
00:44:50,100 --> 00:44:54,570
people will get run over Yeah,
this is this is the sound. This

765
00:44:54,570 --> 00:44:57,090
is the sounds that are being
proposed. Yeah, these are the

766
00:44:57,090 --> 00:45:00,420
setup, right? No, it's not a
joke from the BBC. That could be

767
00:45:00,420 --> 00:45:05,670
a joke but that's the sound the
electric vehicles are supposed

768
00:45:05,670 --> 00:45:07,350
to make a song.

769
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,770
John C. Dvorak: It's Yeah.
Sounds like somebody like a bad

770
00:45:10,770 --> 00:45:14,970
Oregon player. I think they
should use this every year in

771
00:45:14,970 --> 00:45:17,880
the places crawling with these
cars making that noise you don't

772
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:18,420
nuts.

773
00:45:19,410 --> 00:45:23,760
Adam Curry: This is the one you
want that would be better comes

774
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:25,710
that's what you want.

775
00:45:26,070 --> 00:45:33,150
John C. Dvorak: Are you there?
This would be some scene that's

776
00:45:33,150 --> 00:45:37,080
coming down the road. Now,
before you go on, which I want

777
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:41,280
to hear the next step obviously,
is don't What do you think is

778
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,730
going on with Christine Lagarde?
Because she she's an agent for

779
00:45:44,730 --> 00:45:49,200
the Americans in the IMF? I
believe it you think she's gonna

780
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,320
be a mole over there? Or she's
just gonna switch sides and

781
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:53,850
become an EU? Oh, no,

782
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,100
Adam Curry: no, this is no, this
is complete, complete

783
00:45:56,100 --> 00:46:01,860
globalization. You know, the US
actively work to getting here in

784
00:46:01,860 --> 00:46:05,970
that role by framing Dominique
Strauss Kahn, you remember how

785
00:46:05,970 --> 00:46:09,210
fast that went? Oh, yeah, that
was a quickie like and it was

786
00:46:09,210 --> 00:46:13,560
Cyrus Vance. And Jim Comey, his
buddy. A lot of people involved

787
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:14,280
in all that just

788
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,110
John C. Dvorak: you just part of
the same globalist network.

789
00:46:16,140 --> 00:46:16,410
Yeah,

790
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,680
Adam Curry: I think so. But I
but to have her in charge of the

791
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,100
European Central Bank who Oh,
man, that's interesting. That's

792
00:46:23,100 --> 00:46:26,520
a big deal. That's, that should
be fun to watch. Good old Fifi.

793
00:46:26,610 --> 00:46:30,660
She has no banking experience.
He's not a banker. She's not

794
00:46:30,690 --> 00:46:36,840
Bangor. She's a globalist shill.
So at the at the inauguration of

795
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,180
all the new members of the
European Parliament, they

796
00:46:39,180 --> 00:46:43,560
decided to play the European
Union National Anthem, which is

797
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:48,180
Beethoven's Ode to Joy, a fine
Austrian composer. They always

798
00:46:48,180 --> 00:46:51,180
resort back to the same kinds of
things in Germany don't they

799
00:46:51,420 --> 00:46:55,890
went back sooner than later. Now
the Valkyries are on their way.

800
00:46:56,340 --> 00:47:00,750
And so the Brexit party stood up
and turn their backs as it

801
00:47:00,750 --> 00:47:01,320
played.

802
00:47:01,890 --> 00:47:05,010
Unknown: They played the anthem,
you see, and we didn't stand up

803
00:47:05,010 --> 00:47:07,770
as the others did. All ramrod
straight to attention. We sat.

804
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,650
And the President of the
Parliament, Mr. Johnny Italian,

805
00:47:10,770 --> 00:47:16,410
said, it is polite to stand up.
When the anthem of another

806
00:47:16,410 --> 00:47:20,880
nation is playing. He called
this place a nation. So we

807
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,000
obeyed His instructions. And we
did stand up but we just face

808
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:24,510
the other way.

809
00:47:24,570 --> 00:47:28,440
Yeah, but you offended a lot of
people. I spoke to MEPs who said

810
00:47:28,530 --> 00:47:32,220
they thought it was
disrespectful. You are a member

811
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:37,200
of this Parliament, your other
28 Mbps Remember, our members of

812
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,230
this Parliament? Surely you
should have just stood up when

813
00:47:40,650 --> 00:47:43,470
the anthem was played that is in
tribute

814
00:47:43,470 --> 00:47:45,630
to this parliament? Well, I'll
tell you what's disrespectful.

815
00:47:45,720 --> 00:47:49,230
What is disrespectful, is to
take the ancient nation states

816
00:47:49,230 --> 00:47:52,890
of Europe. And without asking
anybody's permission, turn it

817
00:47:52,890 --> 00:47:54,990
into a country because that's
what the President of the

818
00:47:54,990 --> 00:47:57,390
Parliament called it this
morning. I think that's really

819
00:47:57,390 --> 00:48:00,990
disgraceful. And I am not going
to stand at attention for this

820
00:48:00,990 --> 00:48:06,270
handsome. No way. I'll show
respect for any anthem of any

821
00:48:06,270 --> 00:48:09,240
other country in the world, but
not a false creation like this.

822
00:48:09,240 --> 00:48:10,290
And I think we did the right
thing.

823
00:48:10,500 --> 00:48:15,060
Adam Curry: No, I agree.
Especially when they said it's a

824
00:48:15,060 --> 00:48:18,300
nation. It's a national anthem
of the European Union

825
00:48:18,300 --> 00:48:19,350
mistranslation

826
00:48:19,350 --> 00:48:19,950
John C. Dvorak: error.

827
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:23,520
Adam Curry: The whole thing is,

828
00:48:24,180 --> 00:48:25,620
John C. Dvorak: may have been
the guy saying, you know, you

829
00:48:25,620 --> 00:48:28,950
will stand for the nationalism
of any other nation when I stand

830
00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:33,480
for this. I mean, I think it may
have been Faraj may be

831
00:48:33,540 --> 00:48:35,970
Adam Curry: overdue while he's
always been against the national

832
00:48:35,970 --> 00:48:39,180
anthem with the European Union,
and I can understand they're not

833
00:48:39,180 --> 00:48:40,740
a really a union yet.

834
00:48:40,980 --> 00:48:42,570
John C. Dvorak: I maybe should
take a knee

835
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,410
Adam Curry: get some Nike bucks
while you're at it. I'm Nigel

836
00:48:49,410 --> 00:48:55,560
Farage from Nike. Then one other
thing out of Europe, I mean, I

837
00:48:55,560 --> 00:49:00,900
find myself in an extremely
difficult position. I think I

838
00:49:00,900 --> 00:49:04,770
know what to do, but it's very
hard for me as as you know, I'm

839
00:49:04,770 --> 00:49:09,420
a big fan of the World Cup
soccer for women. Yeah, and

840
00:49:09,540 --> 00:49:11,580
John C. Dvorak: the big games
coming up and you're you're

841
00:49:11,580 --> 00:49:13,500
between a rock and a hard place.
I've

842
00:49:13,500 --> 00:49:16,260
Adam Curry: got the the the
American ladies have got the

843
00:49:16,260 --> 00:49:20,940
Dutch ladies. Yeah. So first of
all, I'm really happy that they

844
00:49:20,940 --> 00:49:24,090
both made it to the finals
because I mean, this really made

845
00:49:24,090 --> 00:49:27,900
my day although the game between
Sweden and the Netherlands. I

846
00:49:27,900 --> 00:49:34,770
was thinking of you. Like this
is boring. was a pretty boring

847
00:49:34,770 --> 00:49:35,340
game.

848
00:49:35,790 --> 00:49:36,780
John C. Dvorak: It's a very
boring game.

849
00:49:36,810 --> 00:49:41,400
Adam Curry: I like very much
that the USA got into the finals

850
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,690
without the troublemaker rapper
No. So it shows that she's not

851
00:49:45,690 --> 00:49:51,480
necessary to win matches. And
that is Alex Morgan, who, who

852
00:49:51,510 --> 00:49:56,460
was kept who kept the game. She
did a nice little drinking tea

853
00:49:56,460 --> 00:49:59,520
at the end. They're like Screw
you. limeys it was I thought it

854
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:03,240
was Fanta Ask the Brits are
crazy on Twitter. They're all

855
00:50:03,240 --> 00:50:03,900
mad as

856
00:50:03,900 --> 00:50:06,570
John C. Dvorak: they were rude.
Now first of all, let's start

857
00:50:06,570 --> 00:50:10,920
with this. They make the crazy
observation that the Americans

858
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:15,210
are arrogant and rude. Americans
arrogant and rude.

859
00:50:15,240 --> 00:50:18,210
Adam Curry: What what there's
gambling going on? What's

860
00:50:19,859 --> 00:50:21,959
John C. Dvorak: up? Holy, what
an insult.

861
00:50:22,229 --> 00:50:24,599
Adam Curry: No, this was the
insult. They were playing on

862
00:50:24,599 --> 00:50:27,929
Twitter. It was, well, the
Americans row they were laying

863
00:50:27,929 --> 00:50:30,539
down on the field the whole
time. They were Oh, they were

864
00:50:30,539 --> 00:50:33,839
faking all the injuries. But of
course they do that because here

865
00:50:33,839 --> 00:50:38,489
in Europe, at least you can get
medical care I'm like, okay. Oh,

866
00:50:39,029 --> 00:50:42,119
yeah, so I'm tweeting Nice.
Well, at least we Brexit and

867
00:50:42,119 --> 00:50:44,879
properly bitch. It's

868
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,750
John C. Dvorak: good. Yeah,
that's good comeback. Yeah.

869
00:50:49,500 --> 00:50:53,550
Yeah, this is great. I liked it.
I mean, the game is dumb game is

870
00:50:53,550 --> 00:50:56,280
boring. I mean, I'm not a big
fan but I do like the fact that

871
00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:00,660
we have this this woman's kick
ass team. And you know Americans

872
00:51:00,660 --> 00:51:04,080
typically in their sports they
like one team that just be

873
00:51:04,260 --> 00:51:08,970
horribly dominant and a hateful
you firstly like him because he

874
00:51:08,970 --> 00:51:11,970
started under the Warriors a
good example. And they then they

875
00:51:11,970 --> 00:51:14,550
get really big too big for their
own britches. They won't go to

876
00:51:14,550 --> 00:51:18,480
the White House and just show
you know, their own place. Oh,

877
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:23,760
yeah, we're expected to win then
they lose. Yes. So it's a very

878
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,840
common just like a theme. It's
like a like a melodrama. It's

879
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,910
corny, but fun. So Sunday

880
00:51:29,910 --> 00:51:32,640
Adam Curry: is the big game. So
I guess we'll have to run a best

881
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:39,030
of Yeah,

882
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,120
John C. Dvorak: I know. What's
On at midnight anyway. Is it

883
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:43,500
something like that have a
score?

884
00:51:43,500 --> 00:51:46,320
Adam Curry: Well, no, the game
plays way before midnight.

885
00:51:47,100 --> 00:51:49,740
John C. Dvorak: The game I mean,
our midnight. How can

886
00:51:49,740 --> 00:51:52,590
Adam Curry: you this this is
what kills me. It's like, No,

887
00:51:52,590 --> 00:51:55,740
I'm not gonna watch the game
that at night after it's already

888
00:51:55,740 --> 00:51:56,370
over.

889
00:51:57,090 --> 00:52:00,480
John C. Dvorak: Oh, yes. Dumb.
Yeah, so we'll know the score

890
00:52:00,510 --> 00:52:03,720
live sports. The reason was
streaming services for having

891
00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:06,450
live sports because the word
live is important to sports

892
00:52:06,450 --> 00:52:10,470
fans. He's tight. You know, it's
like the spoiler alert and

893
00:52:10,470 --> 00:52:15,510
everything in between the sports
is like you you're it's been

894
00:52:15,510 --> 00:52:17,940
shown they've done studies if
you're rooting for one of the

895
00:52:17,940 --> 00:52:20,760
teams, your emotions are pretty
much on par with the level of

896
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,000
the emotions on the team when
the team wins. You're elated in

897
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:28,560
a very positive way if your
system exhibits elation, and

898
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,830
when you lose your your system,
you're the fan but you still

899
00:52:32,580 --> 00:52:36,120
almost get as much depression
about losing as the team does.

900
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,500
And so that so you want to
experience that in real time

901
00:52:40,530 --> 00:52:43,260
because you can't you can't
experience it if it's three days

902
00:52:43,260 --> 00:52:45,030
old. It's like the stale bread

903
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:51,420
Adam Curry: Yes, and you have to
stay away from social media and

904
00:52:51,420 --> 00:52:54,120
you can't look at anything
because people will spoil the

905
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:54,720
game don't

906
00:52:54,720 --> 00:52:58,200
John C. Dvorak: do I never I
rarely unless it was something

907
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,290
that was you know some crazy
thing took place that you want

908
00:53:01,290 --> 00:53:03,540
to watch it in the replay.

909
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,960
Adam Curry: You know, I'm the
guy that watches about two

910
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,950
sports games a year one is the
Super Bowl I'll maybe I'll add

911
00:53:10,950 --> 00:53:14,970
one even watch the World Series
really? basketballs too fast for

912
00:53:14,970 --> 00:53:17,460
me. I guess it's just super
bowl. And then the World Cup

913
00:53:17,490 --> 00:53:21,150
World Cup soccer in this case,
I've been a big fan. I would be

914
00:53:21,180 --> 00:53:25,080
happier if this was women's
field hockey because I think

915
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:29,820
that's the that's the shorts the
skirts that's that's the sport

916
00:53:29,820 --> 00:53:32,640
that would make it in America
for that very reason. Thank you

917
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:33,450
very much.

918
00:53:33,690 --> 00:53:37,290
John C. Dvorak: No, that's like
volleyball. Yeah, that's a

919
00:53:37,290 --> 00:53:40,680
sexist very sexist approach
you're taking here I don't see

920
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:44,730
it as a man versus woman sex
thing at all. I'd say this is

921
00:53:44,730 --> 00:53:48,600
fine athletes out there
competing and it's gonna be it's

922
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,980
gonna it's gonna be the the end
of this today this will be the

923
00:53:52,980 --> 00:53:55,590
end of it we're not we won't be
get didn't get you I mean you

924
00:53:55,620 --> 00:53:59,490
just enjoy what you can because
pretty soon men identifying as

925
00:53:59,490 --> 00:54:04,380
women will be will become the
USA national women's team. Yeah,

926
00:54:04,380 --> 00:54:06,060
just a bunch of big burly guys.

927
00:54:06,300 --> 00:54:10,890
Adam Curry: A bunch of dudes
winning a bunch of dudes. Yeah,

928
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,130
well luckily that hasn't crept
into FIFA yet. So I guess I

929
00:54:14,130 --> 00:54:21,060
guess we're lucky in that
regard. Man. Anything, there was

930
00:54:21,060 --> 00:54:26,580
a lot of noise about the wall
and the cages. Wait, maybe start

931
00:54:26,580 --> 00:54:32,130
here. The we will be another the
end of this month until we get

932
00:54:32,130 --> 00:54:37,410
more Democratic debates. But I
did just want to play two clips

933
00:54:37,410 --> 00:54:44,730
about Kamala Harris. Now, she
has been backtracking her her

934
00:54:45,150 --> 00:54:49,080
hand raising to the give
undocumented immigrants

935
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:55,770
universal health care which was
the entire lineup on that

936
00:54:55,770 --> 00:54:58,260
evening of the of the debates
they all want. Yeah, sure. No

937
00:54:58,260 --> 00:54:58,770
prob there's

938
00:54:58,770 --> 00:55:00,360
John C. Dvorak: the question
what each

939
00:55:00,510 --> 00:55:03,150
Unknown: senator another
defining moment in the debate

940
00:55:03,150 --> 00:55:05,970
was when every candidate was
asked to raise their hand if

941
00:55:05,970 --> 00:55:09,090
they would abolish private
insurance. In that moment, you

942
00:55:09,090 --> 00:55:12,270
raised your hand. But afterwards
your campaign says actually,

943
00:55:12,270 --> 00:55:15,420
that's not your position. So
what is your position on private

944
00:55:15,420 --> 00:55:16,050
insurance?

945
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,890
So the question was, would you
be willing to give up your

946
00:55:19,890 --> 00:55:24,270
private insurance? That's not
how it was such a plan. Right?

947
00:55:24,720 --> 00:55:26,640
Okay. That's certainly what I

948
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:30,060
Adam Curry: heard. Okay, let's
just remind Miss Harris of what

949
00:55:30,060 --> 00:55:33,030
was actually asked, raise your
hand if covered if your

950
00:55:33,030 --> 00:55:35,820
government plan would provide
coverage for undocumented

951
00:55:35,820 --> 00:55:41,160
immigrants. That's not quite the
same as if you would do that.

952
00:55:41,250 --> 00:55:43,770
Unknown: And in terms of the
items, it's supportive of

953
00:55:43,770 --> 00:55:47,280
Medicare for All and under
Medicare for All policy, private

954
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,970
insurance would certainly exist
and for supplemental coverage,

955
00:55:50,970 --> 00:55:54,780
but Medicare for All and my
vision of it, we would actually

956
00:55:54,780 --> 00:55:58,020
extend benefits. So for example,
vision care, dental care,

957
00:55:58,020 --> 00:56:01,500
hearing aids, which weren't, we
are not covered. And anyone you

958
00:56:01,500 --> 00:56:04,290
know, who's a senior can tell
you they're extremely ageist,

959
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,150
massive, and people have to come
out of pocket. You don't

960
00:56:06,150 --> 00:56:08,820
Adam Curry: have to be a senior
to have hearing aids. I'm not

961
00:56:08,820 --> 00:56:09,420
voting for her

962
00:56:09,450 --> 00:56:13,140
Unknown: for them. Included in
my perspective on the issue of

963
00:56:13,140 --> 00:56:17,070
private insurance is this. And I
told the story last night, look,

964
00:56:17,070 --> 00:56:21,180
any Night in America, there is
some parent who's got a child

965
00:56:21,180 --> 00:56:22,260
who has a fever, blah,

966
00:56:22,260 --> 00:56:26,400
Adam Curry: blah, blah, okay, I
don't want to hear her. Be on

967
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:31,650
the lookout for the term.
weaponized ignorance. Be on the

968
00:56:31,650 --> 00:56:36,990
lookout for yes. Okay. Yeah,
this is this. There have been

969
00:56:37,020 --> 00:56:41,040
black leaders out there. If you
if you're talking about Kamala

970
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:45,690
Harris not being African
American, not being an American

971
00:56:45,690 --> 00:56:50,520
Black. Let's say you are ADOS
then you will be called out for

972
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,560
your weaponized ignorance.

973
00:56:53,310 --> 00:56:56,520
John C. Dvorak: How's it
weaponized, I can say being

974
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,640
called out for your ignorance.
Even though there's no ignorance

975
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,940
involved. It's actually a deeper
understanding. But you can say

976
00:57:02,940 --> 00:57:07,050
that's ignorance from an
ignorant point of view. What's

977
00:57:07,050 --> 00:57:07,740
the weapon is?

978
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,260
Adam Curry: I don't know. But
I'm just telling them I'm seeing

979
00:57:10,260 --> 00:57:13,560
this I'm hearing this for it
then weaponized ignorance.

980
00:57:13,590 --> 00:57:16,350
John C. Dvorak: I have. I have
the two camera versus Don Jr.

981
00:57:16,350 --> 00:57:21,510
Tweets, clips. Okay. They were
taken to an extreme on Democracy

982
00:57:21,510 --> 00:57:23,910
Now with a just a lot of
bullshit.

983
00:57:24,030 --> 00:57:26,910
Unknown: California senator and
presidential candidate Kamala

984
00:57:26,910 --> 00:57:30,990
Harris is riding a new wave of
momentum following her debate

985
00:57:30,990 --> 00:57:34,200
performance last week, when she
challenged Joe Biden's past

986
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,470
history of working with
segregationist lawmakers and his

987
00:57:37,470 --> 00:57:41,520
opposition to busing to
integrate schools and 1970s.

988
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,280
Well, Harris has jumped in
several opinion polls. There's

989
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:48,300
been also a right wing backlash
online. On Thursday, the

990
00:57:48,300 --> 00:57:51,780
president's son Donald Trump Jr.
retweeted a message from an alt

991
00:57:51,780 --> 00:57:55,680
right personality that read
quote, Kamala Harris is not an

992
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,920
American Black. She's half
Indian and half Jamaican. I'm so

993
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:02,310
sick of people robbing American
blacks, like myself of our

994
00:58:02,310 --> 00:58:05,250
history. It's disgusting.
Harris's family were actually

995
00:58:05,250 --> 00:58:06,120
slave owners.

996
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,900
So the tweet said, Donald Trump
Jr. reposted?

997
00:58:10,590 --> 00:58:11,910
Adam Curry: So the tweet said,

998
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:16,440
John C. Dvorak: yeah. So the
tweets. So now when she says

999
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:21,780
that is she implied when she
said the way she positions this

1000
00:58:21,780 --> 00:58:25,140
comment? This is implying that
the tweet is bullshit.

1001
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,950
Adam Curry: Because yeah, it's
the same as saying she claimed

1002
00:58:30,210 --> 00:58:34,740
John C. Dvorak: it's like it's
just like claimed. But it was

1003
00:58:34,740 --> 00:58:39,390
also the intonation. So the
tweet said, in other words,

1004
00:58:39,690 --> 00:58:44,070
Kamla Harris is not Jamaican and
Indian and her parents and her

1005
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:48,840
parents and her ancestors never
own slaves. Is that what Amy is

1006
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:49,650
implying?

1007
00:58:52,020 --> 00:58:53,730
Adam Curry: weaponize the tweet

1008
00:58:53,730 --> 00:58:57,300
John C. Dvorak: said that she's
half Indian half Jamaican and

1009
00:58:57,300 --> 00:59:01,560
her ancestors owned slaves.
Yeah. Is that true or not? That

1010
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,700
is true. But then why is Amy
implying that is not true?

1011
00:59:06,390 --> 00:59:09,870
Adam Curry: Because Amy is a
douchebag. Ah, okay.

1012
00:59:09,900 --> 00:59:12,570
Unknown: Continue of, of our
history. It's disgusting.

1013
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,120
Harris's family were actually
slave owners.

1014
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:20,520
So the tweet said, Donald Trump
Jr. reposted the tweet adding Is

1015
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:26,460
this true? Wow. Trump Jr. Then
deleted the tweet later that

1016
00:59:26,460 --> 00:59:30,660
night, after coming under fire
from several of their 20

1017
00:59:30,660 --> 00:59:33,510
presidential candidates,
including Joe Biden, who tweeted

1018
00:59:33,510 --> 00:59:36,240
quote, the same forces of hatred
rooted in birtherism that

1019
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,420
question Brock, Obama's American
citizenship and even his racial

1020
00:59:39,420 --> 00:59:42,570
identity are now being used
against Senator Kamala Harris,

1021
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,570
Adam Curry: unquote. Now please
tell me that right after that

1022
00:59:45,630 --> 00:59:50,880
Amy and her Democracy Now.
Cohorts went into Kamala as

1023
00:59:51,390 --> 00:59:55,440
parents and their history and
where she grew up in where she

1024
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,770
went to school and, and her true
heritage. They did that I'm sure

1025
00:59:58,770 --> 00:59:59,970
it's democracy now after

1026
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,670
John C. Dvorak: All, unlike the
fact that you you're using my

1027
01:00:02,670 --> 01:00:05,730
bid. I know it's crazy. I'm
doing sports.

1028
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:06,780
Adam Curry: I'm doing your
let's,

1029
01:00:06,810 --> 01:00:09,090
John C. Dvorak: let's answer
that question with the next

1030
01:00:09,090 --> 01:00:10,170
thing that happens here.

1031
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,660
Unknown: 2020, Democratic
presidential hopeful Julian

1032
01:00:12,660 --> 01:00:16,530
Castro told CNN, Donald Trump
Jr. Behave like a coward.

1033
01:00:16,620 --> 01:00:20,100
This is the game. These folks
play. They put something out

1034
01:00:20,100 --> 01:00:23,190
there you notice what he did? He
tweeted it out. And then he

1035
01:00:23,190 --> 01:00:27,150
deleted it, like a coward. So he
can say, Oh, that was just a

1036
01:00:27,150 --> 01:00:30,720
mistake. But he knows what he's
doing. He's giving voice to

1037
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:37,740
these racist, man, you know,
utterances about Senator Harris.

1038
01:00:39,390 --> 01:00:42,120
We need to dispel them
immediately and condemn them and

1039
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,120
then not give them any more life
because they're disgusting.

1040
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,600
Well, I'm the history your
question

1041
01:00:48,780 --> 01:00:51,960
Adam Curry: is no, that is
clearly no,

1042
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,290
John C. Dvorak: that's a no.
Instead, they attack him as

1043
01:00:55,290 --> 01:01:00,930
being a racist pig. Now, the
thing that's interesting to me

1044
01:01:00,930 --> 01:01:05,100
about this little brouhaha,
which is based on the simple

1045
01:01:05,100 --> 01:01:08,400
fact that she's half Indian and
half Jamaican, I mean, so what?

1046
01:01:08,610 --> 01:01:11,670
Why don't they just admit it?
No, no, no, you can't admit it.

1047
01:01:11,970 --> 01:01:16,650
So this is what's interesting
than that. And that's a fact.

1048
01:01:17,010 --> 01:01:21,810
And then, so they tried to twist
it into a version of birtherism.

1049
01:01:22,140 --> 01:01:24,600
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, that's it.
Oh, yeah. Because how does that?

1050
01:01:24,810 --> 01:01:25,980
How does that work?

1051
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,710
John C. Dvorak: It Logically, if
it doesn't,

1052
01:01:28,740 --> 01:01:31,140
Adam Curry: she doesn't, they're
just there. Okay. I'll tell you.

1053
01:01:31,140 --> 01:01:32,490
Why. Because they're

1054
01:01:32,669 --> 01:01:35,549
John C. Dvorak: down because I
am listening to this thing. This

1055
01:01:35,549 --> 01:01:36,899
is diluted? Yes,

1056
01:01:36,930 --> 01:01:42,510
Adam Curry: yes. Okay. First of
all, if you ask anyone, any

1057
01:01:42,510 --> 01:01:46,380
white person in America, and
anywhere in the world, probably

1058
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,820
what was Barack Obama, they will
say, America's first African

1059
01:01:50,820 --> 01:01:55,740
American president, he was not
in fact, if you believe that he

1060
01:01:55,770 --> 01:02:00,090
had the story that he was born
in Indonesia, are born of an

1061
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:04,290
Indonesian father and a white
mother in Hawaii, then he is not

1062
01:02:04,290 --> 01:02:08,250
African American. He's not ADOS
he is black, brown, whatever you

1063
01:02:08,250 --> 01:02:11,130
want to call it does not have
the the complete black

1064
01:02:11,130 --> 01:02:14,760
experience of African Americans.
Now, if you want to believe he

1065
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:19,320
was born in Kenya. Yeah. I mean,
you can say he's, he's African

1066
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,410
slash American, but not the same
as African American does not

1067
01:02:22,410 --> 01:02:25,740
have the same, the same
background. But they were

1068
01:02:25,740 --> 01:02:29,370
compared the comparison of
Kamala Harris, who was also not

1069
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:33,270
African American, American
descendant of slavery. That's

1070
01:02:33,270 --> 01:02:36,660
how you get that comparison.
They need to pull that apart,

1071
01:02:36,660 --> 01:02:40,410
pull it away from the God Obama
who also was not African

1072
01:02:40,410 --> 01:02:43,800
American. And so they use
something convenient. It's, I

1073
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,950
think, a dangerous strategy. But
it's very convenient, because

1074
01:02:46,950 --> 01:02:50,010
you get to say, That's
birtherism, which immediately

1075
01:02:50,010 --> 01:02:53,760
makes it racist and something
Trump did, which is also not

1076
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,930
true. But Trump is universally
blamed for starting birther is,

1077
01:02:58,230 --> 01:03:01,020
John C. Dvorak: the Republicans
have got to get back on the old

1078
01:03:01,020 --> 01:03:03,870
track that Hillary is the one
who came up with the birth

1079
01:03:03,870 --> 01:03:04,170
during

1080
01:03:04,860 --> 01:03:07,530
Unknown: her campaign group, her
boys campaign,

1081
01:03:08,250 --> 01:03:10,890
John C. Dvorak: in particular,
that one guy's name eludes me,

1082
01:03:10,890 --> 01:03:15,690
but it's their strategy. It was
during the campaign in 2008.

1083
01:03:16,230 --> 01:03:19,290
That this came up, it wasn't had
nothing to do with Trump in

1084
01:03:19,290 --> 01:03:24,420
2016. You know, that was eight
years later that Trump started

1085
01:03:24,420 --> 01:03:27,510
well, I actually started maybe a
couple of years earlier, just as

1086
01:03:27,540 --> 01:03:29,820
I think as a lark. But

1087
01:03:30,270 --> 01:03:32,850
Adam Curry: I have, I have a
clip here, which will just dump

1088
01:03:32,850 --> 01:03:36,270
out of when we're done with this
was a call in show on W H. EUR

1089
01:03:36,270 --> 01:03:41,340
96.3. This is Howard University,
radio, college radio, but not a

1090
01:03:41,340 --> 01:03:45,480
small station, Dr. Greg Carr.
He's the chair of the Afro

1091
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:49,290
American Studies for Howard
University. And well Listen to

1092
01:03:49,290 --> 01:03:51,360
this exchange. Let me see if I
can get it. Thanks for calling

1093
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:52,020
what's on your mind?

1094
01:03:52,830 --> 01:03:56,250
Unknown: Thank you for having
me. Good evening to you also.

1095
01:03:56,730 --> 01:04:00,300
Dr. Carr. Good evening. I was
calling today actually, because

1096
01:04:00,300 --> 01:04:03,660
I am actually a one of the
people that is a part of the

1097
01:04:03,750 --> 01:04:07,200
ADOS movement, the American
descendants of slavery movement.

1098
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:11,220
And I actually I'm engaged with
you actually on Twitter, Mr.

1099
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Carr, I actually wanted to make
a couple of things clear,

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01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:18,330
actually, the conversation for
us, at least on Twitter or with

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01:04:18,330 --> 01:04:21,420
I think a large portion of black
America, I'm not saying all has

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01:04:21,420 --> 01:04:24,450
nothing to do with Kamala Harris
being black. It really doesn't.

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01:04:24,540 --> 01:04:27,090
most black people don't even
care about that. What we're

1104
01:04:27,090 --> 01:04:29,520
talking about is lineage and
ethnicity. That's what we're

1105
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,890
talking about. And if your
family come rooted out of

1106
01:04:31,890 --> 01:04:34,890
Jamaica, all of your cousins,
your grandparents, you can't be

1107
01:04:34,890 --> 01:04:39,390
African American. It's very
simple. Now, when I say African

1108
01:04:39,390 --> 01:04:42,300
American, I mean a descendant of
us chattel slavery, I don't mean

1109
01:04:42,330 --> 01:04:46,140
a second generation person whose
parents were native born

1110
01:04:46,140 --> 01:04:49,770
African. Okay. So that's kind of
the issue. The other issue that

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01:04:49,770 --> 01:04:52,170
we're dealing with is is that
black America has learned from

1112
01:04:52,170 --> 01:04:54,480
the Obama administration. I
would have to agree with you,

1113
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,540
Mr. Carr here that Obama is not
the greatest president at all.

1114
01:04:57,660 --> 01:05:00,180
And if you look at his policies,
he actually took away more We're

1115
01:05:00,180 --> 01:05:03,750
from HBCU funding in George
Washington, which most black

1116
01:05:03,750 --> 01:05:06,600
people don't know. But we've
been largely in a political

1117
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:10,770
group. What ADOS doing is
bringing awareness and trying to

1118
01:05:10,770 --> 01:05:14,640
instill a political education or
awareness in the African

1119
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:18,120
American community that largely
lacks this has this policy do

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01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:21,360
not support black people. That's
the problem. Not only does her

1121
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,270
record not support black people,
but black people have been

1122
01:05:24,270 --> 01:05:28,080
telling every candidate we want
a Black Agenda. Neither the two

1123
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:31,650
black candidates have one. So
that would be something that

1124
01:05:31,650 --> 01:05:34,620
black people should be looking
at that supposedly these are

1125
01:05:34,620 --> 01:05:37,890
black candidates, supposedly
African American, Mr. Booker is

1126
01:05:37,890 --> 01:05:41,970
for sure. But these people don't
actually have anything for black

1127
01:05:41,970 --> 01:05:45,750
people. What they have is to
share for everyone else. But h

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01:05:45,750 --> 01:05:48,570
one v one was which my parents
actually support for Indians,

1129
01:05:48,570 --> 01:05:52,200
which is an Indian first because
that's the laser. Okay. And

1130
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:54,690
secondly, also the immigration
policies on

1131
01:05:54,690 --> 01:05:56,790
Adam Curry: there was pretty
funny. HMB one of course, she

1132
01:05:56,790 --> 01:05:59,250
wants to do that. It's for our
own people, for the Indians that

1133
01:05:59,250 --> 01:06:00,120
she's having the

1134
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:04,380
Unknown: doctor behind. Do not
service the black community. The

1135
01:06:04,380 --> 01:06:08,370
actual data. Oh, hold on. Hold
on for a second there. Go ahead

1136
01:06:08,370 --> 01:06:09,450
Dr. Carr. And I'm

1137
01:06:09,450 --> 01:06:12,270
just gonna say whether Derek and
I hope you hang on for a few

1138
01:06:12,270 --> 01:06:15,750
ministers this is this is the
kind of weaponized ignorance

1139
01:06:16,500 --> 01:06:20,130
that aid us this hashtag is
promoting there is no

1140
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,710
Adam Curry: and there you have
it weaponized ignorance and he's

1141
01:06:22,710 --> 01:06:26,040
going against as he said, he
this college just laid out

1142
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:28,620
John C. Dvorak: everything that
is Clip of the Day for me, but

1143
01:06:28,620 --> 01:06:28,980
Well,

1144
01:06:29,220 --> 01:06:34,290
Adam Curry: let's bring it on.
He actually says it two more

1145
01:06:34,290 --> 01:06:36,420
times. Want to hear a little
more

1146
01:06:36,450 --> 01:06:39,360
John C. Dvorak: though this guy
Dr. Carr who is an apologist I

1147
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:42,630
guess her someone or something
the Democrats he's just a

1148
01:06:42,630 --> 01:06:46,260
Democrat. And so he's just gonna
He's not putting up with any

1149
01:06:46,260 --> 01:06:50,460
this was a lot of black
Democrats have actually a lot

1150
01:06:50,460 --> 01:06:54,840
more white than black. A lot of
Democrats period. Do not want to

1151
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:59,760
see anyone who's black, get out
of line. Don't get not aligned,

1152
01:06:59,790 --> 01:07:01,080
exactly uppity,

1153
01:07:01,110 --> 01:07:03,720
Adam Curry: uppity. Well,
listen, to listen to another 30

1154
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:04,260
seconds here.

1155
01:07:04,290 --> 01:07:07,050
Unknown: You don't speak for
anyone other than yourself. I

1156
01:07:07,050 --> 01:07:11,640
hope you don't embrace the
extreme xenophobia of Antonio

1157
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,760
more, or Yvette Cornell Lisa

1158
01:07:14,790 --> 01:07:17,280
Adam Curry: Antonio Moore is the
guy we played to who does

1159
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:21,210
YouTube from his car. Yeah, it's
extreme xenophobia. i Sorry, I'm

1160
01:07:21,210 --> 01:07:23,100
not hearing it. Dr. Carr, the
broadcast

1161
01:07:23,190 --> 01:07:26,700
Unknown: on YouTube, some of
these other venues? I'm not sure

1162
01:07:26,700 --> 01:07:28,890
if you understand. I mean, you
know, just so we're very clear,

1163
01:07:28,890 --> 01:07:32,490
we say we have the data. So
you're talking about Sandy

1164
01:07:32,490 --> 01:07:35,880
Daredi, my colleague, Sandy
Daredi, had it do none of this.

1165
01:07:35,970 --> 01:07:38,490
And I'm sure you've also read
the platform's of all the

1166
01:07:38,610 --> 01:07:42,600
candidates with Democratic
nomination, nursing the debates,

1167
01:07:42,930 --> 01:07:46,470
for example, their positions on
appointments to the federal

1168
01:07:46,470 --> 01:07:49,950
bench, the Trump administration
has appointed about a fifth of

1169
01:07:49,950 --> 01:07:53,460
the federal bench in the last
two years. These are the judges

1170
01:07:53,460 --> 01:07:57,930
that will decide our fate, the
fates of the people who claim to

1171
01:07:57,930 --> 01:08:02,340
be speaking for the majority of
black people. And not only is it

1172
01:08:02,340 --> 01:08:05,220
incredibly short sighted and
deeply under informed, it's

1173
01:08:05,220 --> 01:08:09,360
really weaponized ignorance to
talk about anything from

1174
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:13,350
reparations to immigration
visas, as you know, these are

1175
01:08:13,350 --> 01:08:18,210
the single issues facing the
black community. And Derek, with

1176
01:08:18,210 --> 01:08:22,650
all due respect, brother, I
think anyone listening to what

1177
01:08:22,650 --> 01:08:26,730
you've laid out of last 60 to 90
seconds, can come away very

1178
01:08:26,730 --> 01:08:34,320
clear about one thing, this is
not an informed political

1179
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:38,820
opinion. And as far as this who
is black and who is not black, I

1180
01:08:38,820 --> 01:08:41,370
would encourage you to study not
only long history of reparations

1181
01:08:41,370 --> 01:08:45,120
movement, but the history of
African solidarity movements,

1182
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,640
Adam Curry: and on and on, I'll
put it in the show notes. The

1183
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:51,150
whole thing is kind of
interesting to listen to. There

1184
01:08:51,150 --> 01:08:56,820
it is. Shut up. Shut up. You're
ignorant,

1185
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:58,890
John C. Dvorak: and you get in
line and you're wet.

1186
01:09:00,180 --> 01:09:03,300
Adam Curry: Hey, the two old
white guys over here they see

1187
01:09:03,300 --> 01:09:05,130
what's going on. We hear it.

1188
01:09:07,260 --> 01:09:11,010
John C. Dvorak: So that guy that
a das guy that called in is D

1189
01:09:11,010 --> 01:09:13,080
knows what's going on to he's
not going to put up with this

1190
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:13,770
bullcrap.

1191
01:09:14,190 --> 01:09:15,150
Unknown: Thank goodness.

1192
01:09:16,500 --> 01:09:20,130
Adam Curry: Oh, hey, we thought
we need to take a break. We're

1193
01:09:20,130 --> 01:09:23,340
just affiliates are pissed once
again. So with that, I'd like to

1194
01:09:23,340 --> 01:09:25,410
thank you very much for your
courage and say in the morning

1195
01:09:25,410 --> 01:09:29,130
to you the man who put the sea
in the colonial flag John C. de

1196
01:09:29,130 --> 01:09:30,060
Bourgh egg

1197
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:31,830
John C. Dvorak: and Imani new
images random Korean and Korean

1198
01:09:31,830 --> 01:09:34,380
ships the sea Bucha graph in the
game is nice out there.

1199
01:09:35,130 --> 01:09:37,800
Adam Curry: Boring to all the
trolls who who did show up

1200
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:41,400
today. I know it's a tough one.
Let me see what we got to in our

1201
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:47,430
troll room. We've got 837 Not
bad for Fourth of July. I

1202
01:09:47,430 --> 01:09:50,790
appreciate y'all showing up.
That is no agenda stream.com

1203
01:09:50,790 --> 01:09:53,910
where we had the live pre
streams today. There's always

1204
01:09:53,910 --> 01:09:56,880
something cool going on Nick the
rat last night. You can go to no

1205
01:09:56,880 --> 01:10:00,750
agenda stream.com where you can
hop on. On The stream listen to

1206
01:10:00,750 --> 01:10:03,990
what's going on in real time you
can troll, you can just do

1207
01:10:03,990 --> 01:10:07,620
whatever you want pretty much
troll. And I'd like to thank our

1208
01:10:07,620 --> 01:10:10,920
artists who brought us the
artwork for episode 1151 The

1209
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:14,910
title of that was brand purpose
now, this was Nick the rat, who

1210
01:10:14,910 --> 01:10:18,630
I just mentioned who brought us
the the album art it was the

1211
01:10:18,660 --> 01:10:23,700
rainbow pride no agenda art,
which was actually a very we had

1212
01:10:23,700 --> 01:10:25,410
we had a tough choice tough,
tough.

1213
01:10:26,370 --> 01:10:27,930
John C. Dvorak: I'm gonna go
look at the art so we can

1214
01:10:27,930 --> 01:10:30,210
because it once in a while, it's
nice to talk about how what we

1215
01:10:30,210 --> 01:10:33,600
did, why we chose the art that
we chose and that sort of thing.

1216
01:10:33,630 --> 01:10:35,520
Adam Curry: Well, there were
reasons why we didn't choose

1217
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:37,710
some otherwise really good
contenders.

1218
01:10:37,950 --> 01:10:40,230
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, and I
think it should be discussed at

1219
01:10:40,230 --> 01:10:41,130
least at least.

1220
01:10:41,970 --> 01:10:45,390
Adam Curry: Oh, by the way,
foreign. You remember Thorin

1221
01:10:45,660 --> 01:10:47,160
John C. Dvorak: yet Dory, who
knew disappeared?

1222
01:10:47,790 --> 01:10:50,100
Adam Curry: He tweeted he
tweeted this morning I said

1223
01:10:50,100 --> 01:10:55,560
guys, I'm not overboard. I no
longer have the same dude named

1224
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:59,730
Ben job that I have. So I no
longer have an opportunity to

1225
01:10:59,730 --> 01:11:05,250
listen live and do the artwork
and but he's still on board and

1226
01:11:05,250 --> 01:11:05,730
he's

1227
01:11:06,420 --> 01:11:09,060
John C. Dvorak: good. Love us.
Yes. You have to listen live

1228
01:11:09,090 --> 01:11:09,540
yeah, there's no

1229
01:11:09,570 --> 01:11:13,560
Adam Curry: there's no other way
to do that. So we had some Nike

1230
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:15,960
stuff, which was not really
appropriate.

1231
01:11:16,020 --> 01:11:19,230
John C. Dvorak: The one I liked
the most, but it was not it was

1232
01:11:19,230 --> 01:11:22,680
another NIC the rat piece which
was Biden with the makeup on.

1233
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:26,190
I'm not sure I Bernie with the
makeup on, which was kind of a I

1234
01:11:26,190 --> 01:11:29,550
saw it because I did this with
Al Gore I had done a picture on

1235
01:11:29,550 --> 01:11:32,610
I use it over and over again in
my blog and elsewhere. Have Al

1236
01:11:32,610 --> 01:11:36,390
Gore wearing eyeshadow and red
lips. Because of that one debate

1237
01:11:36,390 --> 01:11:39,900
that he was in at one time went
against Bush word they had so

1238
01:11:39,900 --> 01:11:43,920
much makeup on. Oh yeah. Forgot
about that. Yes. And he was

1239
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,500
like, it's just so I just did it
over the top. And so I thought

1240
01:11:46,500 --> 01:11:50,520
this particular one with Bernie
with the red lips was pretty

1241
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:52,530
funny. Then there were some
Well, here's,

1242
01:11:52,950 --> 01:11:55,140
Adam Curry: here's the one that
I wanted. The one that I really

1243
01:11:55,140 --> 01:11:59,220
wanted to be good was by Darren
O'Neill. And it was based on the

1244
01:11:59,220 --> 01:12:03,300
knitting community if you don't
call out Trump as a as a racist

1245
01:12:03,300 --> 01:12:06,690
in the knitting community, and
he had he had the knitted

1246
01:12:07,140 --> 01:12:10,950
sweater with Trump socks. But
then the knitting needles look

1247
01:12:10,950 --> 01:12:12,660
like chopsticks. Well, the

1248
01:12:12,660 --> 01:12:15,540
John C. Dvorak: knitting needles
weren't like chopsticks, A and

1249
01:12:15,540 --> 01:12:19,830
B. My complaint was he didn't.
And I don't I mean, they don't

1250
01:12:19,830 --> 01:12:22,410
have a lot of time to do this
art. So this is a speed art.

1251
01:12:22,440 --> 01:12:24,570
Adam Curry: Yeah. And no
disrespect. We're just just

1252
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:25,530
pretied art is

1253
01:12:25,530 --> 01:12:27,630
John C. Dvorak: has tough. It's
rough in his heart. And but

1254
01:12:27,630 --> 01:12:30,060
people do it and they can do it.
And it can be done. It's a tough

1255
01:12:30,060 --> 01:12:33,570
guy what he had to do here, and
I know, it was easy, or not

1256
01:12:33,570 --> 01:12:38,760
easy, because not everybody can
texturize the font. So he needed

1257
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:42,300
the texturize the font so it
looked like knitting and font.

1258
01:12:42,300 --> 01:12:45,480
Yeah, that's also true. So that
was the mistake I didn't like

1259
01:12:45,510 --> 01:12:47,880
that's the reason I got
rejected, didn't it? We had the

1260
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:52,500
pedo bear with which was your
favorite. I think it was pretty

1261
01:12:52,500 --> 01:12:55,890
funny. But you can't use the
pedo bear and are ours a little

1262
01:12:55,890 --> 01:13:00,120
dancer, girl, dancer girl and a
pedo. Bear in effect.

1263
01:13:01,230 --> 01:13:03,090
Adam Curry: It's like no, this
is not a good idea.

1264
01:13:03,540 --> 01:13:06,450
John C. Dvorak: This is not a
good idea. But we did. We were

1265
01:13:06,450 --> 01:13:10,260
amused whole. I also like
podcast madness.

1266
01:13:11,250 --> 01:13:14,340
Adam Curry: Yeah, as in Reefer
Madness, podcast madness. Yeah.

1267
01:13:14,910 --> 01:13:16,950
From this guy, bear asked
Godzilla.

1268
01:13:17,309 --> 01:13:18,929
John C. Dvorak: Bear Asko.
Right, who would have had a

1269
01:13:18,929 --> 01:13:21,419
double he would have hit two in
a row, which would have been

1270
01:13:21,419 --> 01:13:24,959
nice for him by I did like that
piece a lot. But next, we next

1271
01:13:24,959 --> 01:13:26,609
piece. We went to flag

1272
01:13:26,849 --> 01:13:30,929
Adam Curry: and that's also an I
recall myself saying this. You

1273
01:13:30,929 --> 01:13:34,259
see this thing? You're going to
tap on it. You want to click on

1274
01:13:34,259 --> 01:13:38,069
it? How could you go wrong? We
actually harped on corporate

1275
01:13:38,429 --> 01:13:43,799
abuse of the LGBTQ Qi APK
community right by using the

1276
01:13:43,799 --> 01:13:46,889
pride flag. And we went super
meta and just did the same

1277
01:13:46,889 --> 01:13:50,009
thing. I was so proud of course.
Yes. Very good. Yes. Good for

1278
01:13:50,009 --> 01:13:54,209
us. No agenda, our generator
icon in case you're listening

1279
01:13:54,209 --> 01:13:56,369
along in real time if you want
to check out what's going on and

1280
01:13:56,369 --> 01:13:59,729
you can also submit yourself not
yourself but your artwork

1281
01:13:59,729 --> 01:14:04,139
yourself anytime. It's
appropriate and we appreciate

1282
01:14:04,229 --> 01:14:06,569
the work that all of our artists
do and Thank you Nick the rat no

1283
01:14:06,569 --> 01:14:08,969
agenda Art Director Jim
jabra.com.

1284
01:14:10,890 --> 01:14:13,980
John C. Dvorak: So let's thank a
few people. Starting with

1285
01:14:16,950 --> 01:14:19,650
somebody Erin grown and vegan.

1286
01:14:20,099 --> 01:14:24,329
Adam Curry: Oh, and let me see.
Oh, here we go. Had a coal grown

1287
01:14:24,329 --> 01:14:29,819
vegan almost. Here. Whoa. I get
that. Kinda here. Coke through

1288
01:14:29,819 --> 01:14:30,479
innovation.

1289
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:34,080
John C. Dvorak: Karuna. Vegan.
Yes. I understand. He's from

1290
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:41,550
Holland. So yes. $1,100.07 Oh

1291
01:14:41,550 --> 01:14:43,590
Adam Curry: 1107 Yeah. Oh, well,
nice.

1292
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:48,360
John C. Dvorak: kind of miss it
should have been 50 kind of miss

1293
01:14:48,450 --> 01:14:52,410
mr. show club. I think we should
bonus I'm gonna just give him

1294
01:14:52,410 --> 01:14:53,550
the show club member

1295
01:14:55,260 --> 01:14:57,030
Adam Curry: even though it's not
1152

1296
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:01,230
John C. Dvorak: Will he get a
yeah, you was 1102 I thought it

1297
01:15:01,230 --> 01:15:06,600
may be just okay. No, no. Okay.
I'm just thinking. Anyway quite

1298
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:08,700
a note he says please take
editorial freedom. Thank you. I

1299
01:15:08,700 --> 01:15:13,020
will. Dear John and Adams are
Hendrik unwittingly hit me in

1300
01:15:13,020 --> 01:15:16,230
the mouth was son Saturday's
meetup. So he got him out of the

1301
01:15:16,230 --> 01:15:16,680
meetup

1302
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:20,460
Adam Curry: that would have been
in with donor that would have

1303
01:15:20,460 --> 01:15:21,060
been in fight

1304
01:15:21,090 --> 01:15:23,640
John C. Dvorak: Hey, hey
handwrite go find more guys like

1305
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:28,650
this guy. Good Works or Hendrik
about that's fantastic.

1306
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:32,910
discovered your show oil knob so
it's not overnight. It's not an

1307
01:15:32,910 --> 01:15:36,480
overnight success almost a year
ago via the TPO podcast the best

1308
01:15:36,480 --> 01:15:38,850
podcasts in the Netherlands
according to the Mueller report.

1309
01:15:39,150 --> 01:15:42,570
I read it and it's true. And it
didn't miss an episode since I

1310
01:15:42,570 --> 01:15:46,290
can not show up for the Dutch
meetup in my hometown being a

1311
01:15:46,290 --> 01:15:49,740
giant douche bag compliments for
the show. Not only did I not

1312
01:15:49,740 --> 01:15:53,700
miss an episode I only recall
two pre recorded episodes in a

1313
01:15:53,700 --> 01:15:57,390
year so obvious try not getting
the hit me in the mouth of

1314
01:15:57,390 --> 01:16:02,040
Saturday's read up what okay? Is
dedicated is what he's saying.

1315
01:16:02,070 --> 01:16:04,860
Who would have known that as
slick countdown presented from

1316
01:16:04,860 --> 01:16:11,460
my use you Adam would become a
voice of reason in my life. Must

1317
01:16:11,460 --> 01:16:16,290
be John keeping him in check.
Exactly. Of course Adam was too

1318
01:16:16,290 --> 01:16:19,920
slick and commercial back then,
for my view dressed up all black

1319
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:25,740
and pointy shoes and such. Yet
please use luckily my brain

1320
01:16:25,740 --> 01:16:28,800
kicked in when I was a student
even back in 89. I chose the

1321
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:32,160
ridiculousness of upcoming
global warming as a subject for

1322
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:35,370
a presentation. Your show is a
breath of fresh air. I'm looking

1323
01:16:35,370 --> 01:16:37,980
forward to the like minded
people this Saturday. Oh, he's

1324
01:16:37,980 --> 01:16:41,790
going this Saturday. I guess I
can write a book a rivaling

1325
01:16:41,790 --> 01:16:46,050
Tolkein with observations
fitting the show but that's not

1326
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:50,520
a note Oops. I'm however, I do
ponder about the advertising

1327
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:53,310
ruling the world I fully agree
this the advertisers during the

1328
01:16:53,310 --> 01:16:56,460
behavior of the platform and
media to the whim of a small

1329
01:16:56,490 --> 01:17:00,000
uninteresting, uninteresting
minority. This is true is good

1330
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:03,060
observation. And the Netherlands
advertisers like Heineken,

1331
01:17:03,090 --> 01:17:07,080
Gillette and even the Dutch Army
recruitment have been called out

1332
01:17:07,170 --> 01:17:09,780
at times however, in my view,
people taking offense and

1333
01:17:09,780 --> 01:17:15,000
willing to boycott or a not
watching the something I can't

1334
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:20,760
read it. Material. Be lazy
pacifist, see men with beards,

1335
01:17:21,540 --> 01:17:24,840
and hair buns and women who
refuse to shave for the

1336
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:30,060
patriarchy. And all drink beer
from micro breweries. It's a

1337
01:17:30,060 --> 01:17:30,660
good rundown

1338
01:17:31,470 --> 01:17:33,870
Adam Curry: what many says oh,
here's the reason for his

1339
01:17:33,870 --> 01:17:37,890
donation amount. I'll get the
inevitable nine foot I say did

1340
01:17:37,890 --> 01:17:42,960
18 plus 18 is the shapeshifting
Judo nation plus 33 the magic

1341
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:50,070
number times 11 times three. So
he did a lot of magical numbers

1342
01:17:50,130 --> 01:17:52,830
to come up with this donation
amount

1343
01:17:55,020 --> 01:17:58,800
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, that was
the I guess it was it was in

1344
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,460
what was it in he did the deal
Hey, don't use Kroners or

1345
01:18:02,460 --> 01:18:06,270
anything they use euros US
dollars. We get comes up with

1346
01:18:06,270 --> 01:18:11,550
100,000 Oh, I see. 107 Yeah.
Okay, well, I don't know how he

1347
01:18:11,550 --> 01:18:13,260
came up with a big numbers all I
know.

1348
01:18:14,340 --> 01:18:18,210
Adam Curry: And he would like to
be known as Sir Hiroko Knight of

1349
01:18:18,210 --> 01:18:22,500
the papal fiefdom of Utrecht
which he is to rule someday he

1350
01:18:22,500 --> 01:18:27,150
said good neither I have
scheduled yes you're on deck

1351
01:18:27,180 --> 01:18:32,160
that's what it's for. Go to
dvorak.org/peerage.itm No dot

1352
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:37,320
htm all uppercase you can find
out what you'll be responsible

1353
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:39,960
for neither I or the city of
Utrecht are that religious but

1354
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:44,220
it's still home of the only
Dutch Pope ever. Oh is that so?

1355
01:18:44,220 --> 01:18:46,500
I didn't know that there was
even a Dutch Pope ever at all

1356
01:18:46,530 --> 01:18:47,550
John C. Dvorak: it no this
either.

1357
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:51,960
Adam Curry: That and it anything
remotely painful it's safer to

1358
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:56,430
be a night than an altar boy for
ceremony I'm looking forward to

1359
01:18:56,610 --> 01:19:00,090
the mutton immediate bring some
hold on to newer and quibbling

1360
01:19:00,330 --> 01:19:05,700
cabling. Write that down so I
gotta get that the table hold on

1361
01:19:05,700 --> 01:19:12,480
to new era is the fresh new
herring that the whenever they

1362
01:19:12,480 --> 01:19:13,980
have the new catch the

1363
01:19:13,980 --> 01:19:16,260
John C. Dvorak: first catch of
the year and you eat it raw or

1364
01:19:16,260 --> 01:19:17,220
you eat it raw?

1365
01:19:17,250 --> 01:19:19,230
Adam Curry: What would you
slathered with our onions?

1366
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:22,140
John C. Dvorak: Do you eat it
with Is there any is it's not

1367
01:19:22,140 --> 01:19:27,030
that oily crap? Yet it was very
fat so yeah, no I did there's

1368
01:19:27,030 --> 01:19:30,120
this stuff you buy it's like
tinned usually and it's good.

1369
01:19:30,660 --> 01:19:34,920
It's dangerous Dane Z to special
explain this. It's a herring

1370
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:39,900
that is completely just
marinated in a thick viscous oil

1371
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:42,780
Adam Curry: now so these have
obviously been in salt first,

1372
01:19:43,230 --> 01:19:47,400
you know to fry away anything
that will kill you. You hold it

1373
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:50,310
by the tail so they cut the head
off the gut the fish so then you

1374
01:19:50,310 --> 01:19:53,940
just have the you know, the two
kind of sides left. You pour

1375
01:19:53,940 --> 01:19:58,770
some, some chopped some diced
onions into that. And then you

1376
01:19:58,830 --> 01:20:03,690
tilt your head back you hold The
thing up by its tail and you eat

1377
01:20:03,690 --> 01:20:06,330
it, and it is dynamite.

1378
01:20:06,450 --> 01:20:09,060
John C. Dvorak: I'm sure it's
good. I like pickle. I've my

1379
01:20:09,060 --> 01:20:11,640
hearing I've been used by
generally pickled herring. I

1380
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:16,770
like the pickling. But then
usually you don't get too many

1381
01:20:16,770 --> 01:20:19,950
of the full fishes which you can
do that with the chunks,

1382
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:22,080
unfortunately. All right.

1383
01:20:22,349 --> 01:20:25,409
Adam Curry: And then then while
he does, he has does he have a

1384
01:20:25,409 --> 01:20:34,079
jingle? check on that for me?
Well, yeah, he is. He has he has

1385
01:20:34,079 --> 01:20:37,589
a question here. He says PS Can
you please explain what the

1386
01:20:37,589 --> 01:20:40,949
significance of the goat is? I
get all of the show except for

1387
01:20:40,949 --> 01:20:46,049
the goat Well,

1388
01:20:46,110 --> 01:20:48,120
John C. Dvorak: what well
there's no significant

1389
01:20:48,180 --> 01:20:51,510
significance to the goat. It's
just we started playing this

1390
01:20:51,510 --> 01:20:54,900
goat because it sounds like a
person screaming and then we

1391
01:20:54,900 --> 01:20:58,020
started mixing it in with other
things and then somebody came up

1392
01:20:58,020 --> 01:21:01,950
with the idea of goat karma. So
we put it in with a Karma

1393
01:21:01,980 --> 01:21:03,630
there's no it's just it's

1394
01:21:03,930 --> 01:21:06,600
Adam Curry: evolved and also
there was goat yoga. I think

1395
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:07,500
maybe that's when it

1396
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:10,050
John C. Dvorak: I don't think so
start talking about the goat

1397
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:10,830
goat yoga.

1398
01:21:11,730 --> 01:21:16,860
Adam Curry: Does anyone know the
the the genesis of the goat?

1399
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:20,190
John C. Dvorak: I think it
yourself evolved as a as a lark

1400
01:21:21,030 --> 01:21:21,750
joke

1401
01:21:22,470 --> 01:21:24,780
Adam Curry: although Sir Chris
Wilson I mean he apparently

1402
01:21:24,780 --> 01:21:27,690
asleeping with the goat Oh, it
was the goat it was the

1403
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:33,150
emotional support animal that's
how it came up. When people were

1404
01:21:33,480 --> 01:21:37,950
Yeah, yes. I think it was one of
our haha funny jokes people were

1405
01:21:38,100 --> 01:21:41,850
put taking peacocks on
airplanes. And then we said we

1406
01:21:41,850 --> 01:21:44,670
wanted an emotional support goat
well it's

1407
01:21:44,670 --> 01:21:47,640
John C. Dvorak: just a funny
sound we play stuff sometimes

1408
01:21:49,830 --> 01:21:53,970
it's go can you imagine having
that your backyard somebody's

1409
01:21:53,970 --> 01:21:54,840
being murdered?

1410
01:21:56,100 --> 01:22:00,360
Adam Curry: goes back quite a
while though this this goat

1411
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:03,570
stuff? Yeah service goat karma.
Yeah, here it is. This is it. I

1412
01:22:03,570 --> 01:22:04,320
knew we had it.

1413
01:22:06,450 --> 01:22:07,260
Unknown: You've got

1414
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:10,920
Adam Curry: karma we call it
service code karma.

1415
01:22:10,980 --> 01:22:12,480
John C. Dvorak: So there was
service go

1416
01:22:12,480 --> 01:22:14,520
Adam Curry: service go to this.
All right. Well, thank you very

1417
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:17,340
much. See you at the roundtable
with your whole bunch of new and

1418
01:22:17,340 --> 01:22:18,330
cabling a

1419
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:22,350
John C. Dvorak: pleasure the law
Young was the young from a

1420
01:22:22,350 --> 01:22:27,540
Jamestown New York comes in with
$450 on one of these bank checks

1421
01:22:27,540 --> 01:22:30,150
with little note on this there's
no jingles no karma. No note.

1422
01:22:30,990 --> 01:22:32,820
Adam Curry: Okay, well, thank
you very much. This is

1423
01:22:32,850 --> 01:22:33,810
fantastic.

1424
01:22:33,900 --> 01:22:37,020
John C. Dvorak: Westland love
that Yes. Appreciate Andrew, a

1425
01:22:37,020 --> 01:22:42,150
German in Canton, Georgia.
$412.62. And that's another

1426
01:22:42,150 --> 01:22:45,210
check in he sent a not a
handwritten but a typed note.

1427
01:22:45,690 --> 01:22:49,410
shall read. Finally, I'm paying
off my enlightenment debt to the

1428
01:22:49,410 --> 01:22:51,510
no agenda show. Thank you for
your patience and for my

1429
01:22:51,510 --> 01:22:55,650
persistent douchebaggery. Since
my last donation, this humbled

1430
01:22:55,650 --> 01:22:58,350
token of my appreciation should
reserve me a seat at the round

1431
01:22:58,350 --> 01:23:02,010
table and perhaps ensure a
little future karma. And then

1432
01:23:02,010 --> 01:23:07,050
he's got all his accounting. So
he got to 1033 Please Knight me

1433
01:23:07,050 --> 01:23:10,230
sir Andy of the hickory flat
protector, small horses and he

1434
01:23:10,230 --> 01:23:14,070
is on the list. Okay, also,
please add me to the birthday

1435
01:23:14,070 --> 01:23:18,450
list. I'm not sure if he's on
there. 707 Because it's lucky

1436
01:23:18,450 --> 01:23:23,340
ends my birthday. 707 is good.
That is a good day. My daughter

1437
01:23:23,490 --> 01:23:29,370
j is born on 711. Oh, yeah.
Which I was so thankful for.

1438
01:23:29,370 --> 01:23:30,030
Okay, so

1439
01:23:30,060 --> 01:23:34,710
Adam Curry: Okay, so Wesley, no,
not Wesley. Andrew German. Yes.

1440
01:23:35,490 --> 01:23:36,330
He's on the list.

1441
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:40,680
John C. Dvorak: No, my saying
that. Yeah. Andrew German I'm

1442
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:41,280
sorry. Yes,

1443
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:44,370
Adam Curry: he's on the list and
we make sure he's his title is

1444
01:23:44,370 --> 01:23:47,250
proper yesterday. Andrew of the
hickory flat protector of small

1445
01:23:47,250 --> 01:23:48,480
horses. Okay.

1446
01:23:48,570 --> 01:23:50,850
John C. Dvorak: He continues I
add him I was in Austin last

1447
01:23:50,850 --> 01:23:53,370
year on business. It wasn't 10
minutes before I was brushed

1448
01:23:53,370 --> 01:23:57,030
back by a green scooter and
stepped in dog crap. It was the

1449
01:23:57,030 --> 01:24:00,480
beginning of a wonderful three
days where John we recently sold

1450
01:24:00,480 --> 01:24:03,330
our startup in the little office
by the railroad tracks for a ton

1451
01:24:03,330 --> 01:24:07,230
of dough. And now we have to
move to fancier digs. Sadly, I

1452
01:24:07,230 --> 01:24:10,950
became a bit of a foamer every
time I heard the train horn.

1453
01:24:11,700 --> 01:24:16,350
Special shout out to the Atlanta
local for Oh for looking forward

1454
01:24:16,350 --> 01:24:18,480
to our next meetup in a couple
of weeks that shows had been

1455
01:24:18,480 --> 01:24:21,990
simply the best lately. No
jingles, no karma, EMF and best

1456
01:24:21,990 --> 01:24:22,440
wishes.

1457
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:27,300
Adam Curry: And I wasn't gonna
say so. I there was something

1458
01:24:27,330 --> 01:24:30,420
Oh, he had nothing for the for
the roundtable. No.

1459
01:24:30,630 --> 01:24:31,440
Requirements.

1460
01:24:31,469 --> 01:24:34,769
Unknown: He's good to go. Okay.
No, fish.

1461
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:37,500
Adam Curry: Thank you very much,
Andrew. Fancy. You're the

1462
01:24:37,500 --> 01:24:38,190
roundtable.

1463
01:24:38,940 --> 01:24:43,770
John C. Dvorak: Onward here.
Mark, Mark Malan in Baton Rouge,

1464
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:50,340
Louisiana. 333 74. Happy
Independence Day. Please, please

1465
01:24:50,340 --> 01:24:53,010
count this donation as a point
for independent state contest.

1466
01:24:53,460 --> 01:24:56,400
All right. Do you have this
Whoa, he's gonna count this for

1467
01:24:56,430 --> 01:25:00,000
Yes. 74. He's gonna put this
pennies in. So he's on the he's

1468
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,870
American okay. This contribution
honors the American legacy of

1469
01:25:03,870 --> 01:25:07,620
free speech that Canada does not
have, which is demonstrated

1470
01:25:07,620 --> 01:25:12,330
twice I read it exactly I was
written by the way, which is

1471
01:25:12,330 --> 01:25:15,300
demonstrated twice a week on the
best podcast in the universe for

1472
01:25:15,300 --> 01:25:19,440
jingles can I get John Brennan's
innocent until alleged guilty?

1473
01:25:20,100 --> 01:25:23,820
Fear is freedom from Ben Shapiro
and the Ben Shapiro laugh adios

1474
01:25:23,820 --> 01:25:24,570
mofos

1475
01:25:25,260 --> 01:25:30,240
Adam Curry: the Ben Shapiro
laugh don't think it's labeled

1476
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:34,470
as such but I'll do I'll do a an
equally as good Ben Shapiro for

1477
01:25:34,470 --> 01:25:37,680
you people are innocent until
well alleged to be involved in

1478
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:38,640
some type of criminal activity.

1479
01:25:41,550 --> 01:25:46,200
Unknown: Freedom subjugation is
liberation contradiction is

1480
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:55,950
driven by the fact that this
world by

1481
01:25:56,130 --> 01:26:00,030
God you've got karma

1482
01:26:04,470 --> 01:26:07,260
John C. Dvorak: Vincent, James
and Madison Alabama comes in at

1483
01:26:07,260 --> 01:26:10,650
$333 and he gets he gets
upgraded to night comes at

1484
01:26:10,650 --> 01:26:14,010
night. This puts me over the top
to become an unneeded always

1485
01:26:14,010 --> 01:26:14,310
gonna be a

1486
01:26:14,850 --> 01:26:17,010
Adam Curry: bear. Well, so
here's here's what happened. I

1487
01:26:17,010 --> 01:26:18,480
got a note from the back office,

1488
01:26:18,480 --> 01:26:20,850
John C. Dvorak: right? This guy
has to be knighted Nitish. And

1489
01:26:20,850 --> 01:26:21,690
then he becomes a

1490
01:26:21,690 --> 01:26:23,820
Adam Curry: baron in one
sitting.

1491
01:26:24,270 --> 01:26:26,280
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. This is
great against the Baron though,

1492
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:30,210
which is different. Yeah. He's
apparently he just was he's been

1493
01:26:30,210 --> 01:26:33,960
a night for a while. He just
never cashed in on it. So he's

1494
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:37,440
bladed so it's not a black night
because it wasn't our screw up.

1495
01:26:37,440 --> 01:26:40,230
It was his bed. It wasn't a
screw up. He is intentional. I

1496
01:26:40,230 --> 01:26:42,780
could go on. I will send my
accounting via email, which he

1497
01:26:42,780 --> 01:26:45,900
did and love to be knighted on
the fourth, which is today I

1498
01:26:45,900 --> 01:26:49,260
like this actually was a
promotion we could have done. I

1499
01:26:49,260 --> 01:26:53,040
said I'll send my title or he we
got all this stuff. And he's You

1500
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:53,160
mean

1501
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:54,810
Adam Curry: we could have done
freedom nights?

1502
01:26:55,440 --> 01:26:57,540
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, yeah.
Freedom nights like freedom

1503
01:26:57,540 --> 01:27:03,570
fries. Could have we? You know,
we did a lot of we leave a lot

1504
01:27:03,570 --> 01:27:04,170
on the table.

1505
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:07,770
Adam Curry: We do. Because we
want to do content in the show.

1506
01:27:07,830 --> 01:27:08,400
Which Yeah,

1507
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:10,770
John C. Dvorak: we got other
things to do besides scheming.

1508
01:27:11,970 --> 01:27:20,130
Steve 200 Just plain Oh, Steve's
he's in a Satan's asshole. AKA

1509
01:27:20,490 --> 01:27:21,810
Orlando, Florida.

1510
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:24,780
Unknown: Okay. All right,
grabbing it.

1511
01:27:25,650 --> 01:27:29,130
John C. Dvorak: Steve from
Satan's asshole. If you've ever

1512
01:27:29,130 --> 01:27:32,220
been to Orlando during the
summertime, you'd understand why

1513
01:27:32,220 --> 01:27:38,940
I dub it Satan's asshole. Please
give me a D douching. You've

1514
01:27:38,940 --> 01:27:43,620
been de deuced I've been
listening a little over two

1515
01:27:43,620 --> 01:27:47,220
months now thanks to my good
friend Kenny the German Kerman.

1516
01:27:48,090 --> 01:27:52,560
I would also like to thank John
the brewer for introducing Kenny

1517
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:55,710
the German Kerman because
without him I may have never

1518
01:27:55,710 --> 01:27:59,010
found the podcast. Thank you and
keep up the great work.

1519
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,200
Adam Curry: Love how that works.
Thank you very much. Thank you,

1520
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:06,240
Steven. Thank you. Kenny, the
German Carmen and missin

1521
01:28:06,270 --> 01:28:08,700
John C. Dvorak: John the brewer
and John the Brewer, who stopped

1522
01:28:08,700 --> 01:28:15,270
brewing apparently Oh no. Keith
Gibson $200 The brand discussion

1523
01:28:15,270 --> 01:28:17,850
from Sunday was great and
another example of the excellent

1524
01:28:17,850 --> 01:28:23,880
work done by the show. Happy for
it happy fourth in a nice of F

1525
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:25,860
cancer jingle thank you for your
courage

1526
01:28:30,900 --> 01:28:32,550
Unknown: you've got karma.

1527
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:36,420
John C. Dvorak: Steven Keith are
two Associate Executive

1528
01:28:36,420 --> 01:28:40,680
producers for show 1152 And
that's our group of associates

1529
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:44,430
and executive producers for the
show and want to thank them for

1530
01:28:44,430 --> 01:28:47,880
supporting this show and keeping
everything going on even keel

1531
01:28:47,910 --> 01:28:52,470
Adam Curry: yeah great turnout
for for a day off here in the in

1532
01:28:52,470 --> 01:28:56,310
the United States of Gitmo
nation proper. Thank you for

1533
01:28:56,340 --> 01:28:59,970
executive producing or associate
executive producing it is an it

1534
01:28:59,970 --> 01:29:04,200
is a duty for some an innate
obligation. And others

1535
01:29:04,230 --> 01:29:07,050
participate in many other ways
people give lower amounts will

1536
01:29:07,050 --> 01:29:09,780
be thanking them $50 And above
and our second segment, but also

1537
01:29:09,780 --> 01:29:13,350
you heard us thank our artists
for our artwork, and there's

1538
01:29:13,350 --> 01:29:15,570
just a lot of things to be
thankful for particularly on

1539
01:29:15,570 --> 01:29:18,690
this day of freedom. So
remember, we'll be back with

1540
01:29:18,690 --> 01:29:22,470
another show on Sunday. It could
be a best of if I'm watching the

1541
01:29:22,500 --> 01:29:25,620
world's woman Cup soccer, but
maybe I'll just show up just for

1542
01:29:25,620 --> 01:29:30,720
the heck of it. Please support
us at VO rec.org/and. Now that

1543
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:34,710
you know the entire genesis of
the goats, I mean go propagate.

1544
01:29:34,890 --> 01:29:39,300
Unknown: Our formula is this. We
go out we hit people in the

1545
01:29:39,300 --> 01:29:39,600
mouth

1546
01:29:54,870 --> 01:29:57,420
Adam Curry: I do have a note of
business or two notes of

1547
01:29:57,420 --> 01:30:01,830
business to discuss briefly when
One is I still haven't received

1548
01:30:01,830 --> 01:30:03,330
the wedding video from you.
Thanks.

1549
01:30:03,930 --> 01:30:06,990
John C. Dvorak: Oh, I have it. I
have uploaded it to the cosmic

1550
01:30:06,990 --> 01:30:10,740
weenie. And I will give you this
specific link. It's nothing you

1551
01:30:10,740 --> 01:30:14,190
can accidentally find obviously,
because it's too big. It's a

1552
01:30:14,190 --> 01:30:15,030
gigabyte.

1553
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:18,210
Adam Curry: Yeah, we'll see. So
you pretty much just gave

1554
01:30:18,210 --> 01:30:21,300
everybody licensed to go and
find this video on your cosmic

1555
01:30:21,300 --> 01:30:23,550
weenie. Like you can't do a
directory listing?

1556
01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:26,970
John C. Dvorak: No, you can't
you you end up with a page. You

1557
01:30:26,970 --> 01:30:32,730
can't find it and you want to
download a gigabyte. No. Oh,

1558
01:30:32,730 --> 01:30:36,210
just take it off. Now I don't
want to burden the site with a

1559
01:30:36,210 --> 01:30:41,760
gigabyte downloads. Oh. I mean,
one one fact. Once you take it

1560
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:42,930
down, I'm taking I'm gonna

1561
01:30:43,380 --> 01:30:45,420
Adam Curry: get rid of it. But
we got our photos. We got the

1562
01:30:45,420 --> 01:30:47,490
wedding photos. Finally they
came back. Oh,

1563
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:49,860
John C. Dvorak: yeah. There
anything good? Yes. This next

1564
01:30:49,860 --> 01:30:52,290
newsletter to Sunday newsletter.
The Sunday newsletter could use

1565
01:30:52,290 --> 01:30:53,040
some photos.

1566
01:30:53,070 --> 01:30:56,790
Adam Curry: Yeah, definitely.
There's some. I guess there's

1567
01:30:56,790 --> 01:30:58,710
great photos of

1568
01:30:59,370 --> 01:31:02,520
John C. Dvorak: you dancing.
Yes. Good. We'll use those.

1569
01:31:02,550 --> 01:31:05,730
Adam Curry: Yes. There's also
photos of the conga line with

1570
01:31:05,730 --> 01:31:06,510
Horowitz I

1571
01:31:06,510 --> 01:31:08,100
John C. Dvorak: think I
definitely want that.

1572
01:31:09,480 --> 01:31:11,640
Adam Curry: There's, there's
actually, there's a photo of

1573
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:17,970
you. I think you mean me, me.
Grand Duke David Foley and then

1574
01:31:17,970 --> 01:31:21,660
Horowitz is in the back. And he
almost looks like like a mafia

1575
01:31:21,660 --> 01:31:25,440
hitman. That's kind of standing
there and you're protecting us.

1576
01:31:25,440 --> 01:31:30,300
It's very, very odd. These are
great photos. So yes. We shall

1577
01:31:30,330 --> 01:31:34,950
ensure you have a few to use.
anything embarrassing is always

1578
01:31:34,950 --> 01:31:35,730
good, right?

1579
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:38,880
John C. Dvorak: It's always the
best. And that's what people

1580
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:41,430
want to see in the newsletter if
they haven't signed up or if

1581
01:31:41,430 --> 01:31:43,770
they've given up on the
newsletter because there's one

1582
01:31:43,770 --> 01:31:47,370
too many appeals. A lot of
people get sick of it. But the

1583
01:31:47,370 --> 01:31:50,340
newsletter I think is a is a top
notch product. Yes,

1584
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:53,970
Adam Curry: I agree. It's it's
an outstanding product actually.

1585
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:55,830
John C. Dvorak: It's always got
a laugh there's always a good

1586
01:31:55,830 --> 01:31:57,240
laugh in there. So we

1587
01:31:57,240 --> 01:31:59,640
Adam Curry: really owe the
second piece of business I'm

1588
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:03,990
sorry, is a reminder it's been
on the list for several shows

1589
01:32:03,990 --> 01:32:06,780
now and somehow it just keeps
slipping our mind probably cuz

1590
01:32:06,780 --> 01:32:09,090
we talked about it after the
show which is dumb which while

1591
01:32:09,090 --> 01:32:11,940
we don't do that very often talk
about anything except the show.

1592
01:32:13,290 --> 01:32:17,400
You are working on a radio play
one night

1593
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:21,780
John C. Dvorak: I'm gonna do 10
RADIO PLAYS Whoa. Yeah, because

1594
01:32:21,780 --> 01:32:25,230
I can do radio plays you know
how to do on my I've done him in

1595
01:32:25,440 --> 01:32:28,830
in this when I was at Foothill
College taking broadcasts that

1596
01:32:28,830 --> 01:32:33,300
we did radio plays it was
archaic, but it was doable. But

1597
01:32:33,300 --> 01:32:38,520
we had a real on the air radio
station which is still exists KF

1598
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:43,950
RC and this was a can't foresee
no good No, it's not can't

1599
01:32:43,950 --> 01:32:46,680
foresee is something else. I
can't remember. But it's a good

1600
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:49,650
station good students station.
And but it had a lot of power.

1601
01:32:49,650 --> 01:32:55,770
It wasn't like a wimpy little
local station. Anyway, I've

1602
01:32:55,770 --> 01:32:58,470
decided because I've been got I
don't know why I've gotten a

1603
01:32:58,470 --> 01:33:01,770
hair up my ass. But I've decided
I've been researching Broadway

1604
01:33:01,770 --> 01:33:05,850
plays from the burns mantel
series of best plays, which he

1605
01:33:05,850 --> 01:33:10,770
started doing in 1919 Guy was
born in 1870. And every year he

1606
01:33:10,770 --> 01:33:13,590
did this for every season of
Broadway. And there's a lot of

1607
01:33:13,590 --> 01:33:18,510
old plays in there that would
make excellent short half hour

1608
01:33:18,510 --> 01:33:23,700
radio plays, if you adapted them
and adaptations is the way you

1609
01:33:23,700 --> 01:33:29,520
do these things. And so I want
to do a 10 of them. And I need

1610
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:31,680
some voice acting talents. Oh
well,

1611
01:33:31,679 --> 01:33:33,959
Adam Curry: I'm glad you came to
me John was you know,

1612
01:33:34,319 --> 01:33:36,899
outstanding, your voice
pronounced Occator

1613
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:39,210
John C. Dvorak: and that's a
good example of why not looking

1614
01:33:39,210 --> 01:33:46,860
for but I will say I am missing.
Although you have one on the

1615
01:33:46,860 --> 01:33:50,790
line that might work. I am
missing the big Boomer the big

1616
01:33:50,790 --> 01:33:53,760
booming voice of frontline
workers I already told you who

1617
01:33:54,450 --> 01:33:56,280
I'm going to try and move he's
got the big booming do

1618
01:33:56,280 --> 01:33:57,990
Adam Curry: we mention him or do
we not mention besides like

1619
01:33:58,590 --> 01:33:59,610
Darren O'Neal?

1620
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:02,340
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, Darren
O'Neal apparently has a nice big

1621
01:34:02,340 --> 01:34:02,790
Boomer

1622
01:34:03,389 --> 01:34:08,159
Adam Curry: massive Boomer Hello
the air no Darren I was the man

1623
01:34:08,669 --> 01:34:10,049
I think that's for

1624
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:12,360
John C. Dvorak: but if anybody
out there is in does work you

1625
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:15,660
know as a drama, VO local
theater anything you want to do

1626
01:34:15,660 --> 01:34:18,360
some voice work is going to be
pieced together. It's not like

1627
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:20,580
you're all we're all gonna go
into a studio and do this thing.

1628
01:34:20,580 --> 01:34:24,660
Now. It's going to be posted,
which is going to take some time

1629
01:34:24,660 --> 01:34:28,020
but you all the roles would be
just doled out to people and

1630
01:34:28,020 --> 01:34:31,170
sometimes more people than one
so you can get the best of the

1631
01:34:31,470 --> 01:34:34,980
of the best. And you just read
the script into a mic if you got

1632
01:34:34,980 --> 01:34:36,810
a mic and a recording system

1633
01:34:36,900 --> 01:34:37,620
Adam Curry: into your Yeti

1634
01:34:37,650 --> 01:34:42,030
John C. Dvorak: Blue Yeti Blue.
Use your Yeti Blue and then just

1635
01:34:42,030 --> 01:34:44,400
yak into it and then just send
me the tapes and I'll piece them

1636
01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:47,790
together after after you know
but we need some auditions some

1637
01:34:47,820 --> 01:34:50,730
people need to send some stuff
and I know we have probably

1638
01:34:50,730 --> 01:34:54,270
about 50 people out there
already have Dame Tanya should

1639
01:34:54,270 --> 01:34:57,390
do it and she's an actress. And
there's a few other people I

1640
01:34:57,390 --> 01:34:57,840
mean

1641
01:34:58,710 --> 01:35:01,350
Unknown: sorry you have me I
want to view it you want to

1642
01:35:01,470 --> 01:35:03,420
John C. Dvorak: do you can do
about six or seven good voices

1643
01:35:03,420 --> 01:35:11,460
really? I want you to do it.
You're crazy voices. Okay? You

1644
01:35:11,460 --> 01:35:13,920
gotta tell me which one you'll
just find stuff for everybody.

1645
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:17,310
Adam Curry: Oh, oh, so you what
you're saying is the part was

1646
01:35:17,310 --> 01:35:19,980
written for me. Thank you, John,
I appreciate it

1647
01:35:19,980 --> 01:35:21,900
John C. Dvorak: a number of
those for sure. And what

1648
01:35:21,900 --> 01:35:24,120
Adam Curry: play are we doing?
Well,

1649
01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:26,580
John C. Dvorak: well, there's
one is an hour I tried to do

1650
01:35:26,580 --> 01:35:31,470
half hours I'm going to do is a
couple of different plays. One's

1651
01:35:31,500 --> 01:35:34,440
called the Red Planet, which is
a very interesting play. I'm not

1652
01:35:34,440 --> 01:35:36,930
going to discuss these plays in
detail now, because it would

1653
01:35:36,930 --> 01:35:40,470
take up too much valuable time.
But I'm also thinking of doing

1654
01:35:40,470 --> 01:35:45,960
the RE re adaptation of 1984
from the which was done as a

1655
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:49,980
radio play four times, including
once by the BBC, which took it

1656
01:35:49,980 --> 01:35:52,860
was a two hour play was too
long. But there was a version

1657
01:35:52,860 --> 01:35:58,620
done in about 1953 by the
actor's Theatre Guild out of New

1658
01:35:58,620 --> 01:36:01,650
York, and they had a radio show
for a while. And they did a

1659
01:36:01,650 --> 01:36:04,230
version I think is just
dynamite. It might be worth

1660
01:36:04,260 --> 01:36:05,040
redoing.

1661
01:36:05,100 --> 01:36:10,530
Adam Curry: Okay. Cool. And
promotion. And we're just

1662
01:36:10,530 --> 01:36:13,020
putting this up with him. Is it
a podcast that can people

1663
01:36:13,020 --> 01:36:13,770
submit? You know, it's

1664
01:36:13,770 --> 01:36:16,650
John C. Dvorak: possible that we
could use this as a because it'd

1665
01:36:16,650 --> 01:36:20,460
be half hours to run a couple of
them is as half of a filler show

1666
01:36:20,460 --> 01:36:21,510
when we do a?

1667
01:36:21,630 --> 01:36:23,520
Adam Curry: Oh, that's an
interesting idea. Yeah.

1668
01:36:23,550 --> 01:36:24,630
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. It
wouldn't hurt.

1669
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:25,680
Adam Curry: I like that.

1670
01:36:26,490 --> 01:36:29,820
John C. Dvorak: They'll be it'd
be family family stuff.

1671
01:36:29,850 --> 01:36:34,320
Adam Curry: It's a family as a
family thing. Nice. I'm all in

1672
01:36:34,590 --> 01:36:35,400
like the idea.

1673
01:36:36,390 --> 01:36:39,090
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, here's
what got me. I know how

1674
01:36:39,090 --> 01:36:42,420
radionuclides collected all the
really the great radio

1675
01:36:42,420 --> 01:36:46,890
placement, the 30s and 40s. And
I like them, they're good.

1676
01:36:47,070 --> 01:36:49,800
They're good material. And then
but they're, they've been

1677
01:36:49,830 --> 01:36:52,980
continuing to do them to this
day. And most of the people

1678
01:36:52,980 --> 01:36:57,480
doing modern radio plays they're
doing now like, coming out as we

1679
01:36:57,480 --> 01:37:02,490
speak. All the voicing is done
by a bunch of squeaky can't kind

1680
01:37:02,490 --> 01:37:07,470
of fame millennials that have a
lousy voice. They can't act.

1681
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:12,390
It's just like it's it's, it's,
it's cringe worthy. And there's

1682
01:37:12,390 --> 01:37:16,440
two or three troops and I
genuine troupe of people, maybe

1683
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:19,320
six or seven people that are
doing a lot of these plays, and

1684
01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:20,910
they're not good.

1685
01:37:23,070 --> 01:37:25,170
Adam Curry: We could do
auditions on the show. short

1686
01:37:25,170 --> 01:37:25,530
ones.

1687
01:37:27,450 --> 01:37:28,170
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, yeah.

1688
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:34,050
Adam Curry: Oh, speaking of
which, holy moly. Did you catch

1689
01:37:34,050 --> 01:37:38,010
this? The auditions of the
Mueller report the movie?

1690
01:37:39,810 --> 01:37:41,850
John C. Dvorak: No, I'm sure
this is a gem.

1691
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:45,180
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. So and
this is from Tom Steiner.

1692
01:37:45,210 --> 01:37:50,190
Steyer, the same buyer that at
the end, yeah, the impeach Trump

1693
01:37:50,190 --> 01:37:57,240
guy. So after the stellar, let
me see, we had the what was the

1694
01:37:57,240 --> 01:38:00,600
thing that Rob Reiner did, which
video that he did one recently

1695
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:05,820
directed was that everyone
talking about the reading of the

1696
01:38:05,820 --> 01:38:08,400
Muller report, then we had the
play the reading of the Muller

1697
01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:11,970
report. So now, what they're
pretending and this is, it'll be

1698
01:38:11,970 --> 01:38:16,740
great in audio only because you
don't see the actors. Very often

1699
01:38:16,740 --> 01:38:21,330
or, in fact, incredibly
frequently, actors will be asked

1700
01:38:21,330 --> 01:38:25,080
to record something at home to
read a side as it's called to

1701
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:27,780
read aside from the script,
which is this little one page

1702
01:38:27,780 --> 01:38:32,580
typically as an audition. And,
and that is usually a pre round

1703
01:38:32,580 --> 01:38:36,570
that is done before people are
called in for a cattle call. But

1704
01:38:36,570 --> 01:38:41,190
often celebrities or people of
some de Liberty status will be

1705
01:38:41,190 --> 01:38:46,230
asked to do this. And so they
took a handful of celebs, and

1706
01:38:46,650 --> 01:38:51,600
sent them aside for the motion
picture, the mullah report the

1707
01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:57,210
movie and so they're reading
from this and the gag is that

1708
01:38:57,210 --> 01:39:00,690
they're reading from it and they
think it's fiction. They don't

1709
01:39:00,690 --> 01:39:06,570
realize it's real. And of
course, it's acted and it's shit

1710
01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:15,780
acting which makes it so meta. I
have to play it for you okay,

1711
01:39:15,900 --> 01:39:19,770
the frame looks good. Nobody
ever gets apart from a self

1712
01:39:19,770 --> 01:39:23,250
tape. That's true. Hi, my name
is Minnie Dr. Deborah mess and

1713
01:39:23,250 --> 01:39:26,550
Unknown: very when rice cub
Anika Noni Rose Shriner

1714
01:39:26,550 --> 01:39:28,140
Acevedo Joshua Molina,

1715
01:39:28,170 --> 01:39:29,730
Rob Cordray. Jon Cryer, my

1716
01:39:29,730 --> 01:39:32,640
name is Yvette Nicole Brown and
I'm reading for Muller report

1717
01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:33,900
report. Report. Muller

1718
01:39:33,900 --> 01:39:38,520
report. The movie thanks for the
opportunity. According to Comey

1719
01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:40,200
is account at one point during
the

1720
01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:43,200
dinner the president stated I
need loyalty.

1721
01:39:43,259 --> 01:39:46,589
I expect loyalty, I need
loyalty.

1722
01:39:46,620 --> 01:39:53,370
I expect loyalty. What? Okay.
This was

1723
01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:58,110
from the real report. It is
really serious. No, no fucking

1724
01:39:58,110 --> 01:39:58,470
way. It's

1725
01:39:58,470 --> 01:40:01,920
the real Mueller report. Word
for word. Yeah. Come on

1726
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:05,070
President told the FBI director
that he needed loyalty.

1727
01:40:05,070 --> 01:40:08,520
Get the fuck out of here. Trump
made public statements that

1728
01:40:08,520 --> 01:40:11,940
included the following Russia.
If you're listening, I hope

1729
01:40:11,940 --> 01:40:14,850
you're able to find the 30,000
emails that are missing. I

1730
01:40:14,850 --> 01:40:18,000
think it'd be rewarded mightily
by our press. I mean, it got

1731
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:20,070
impeached. This guy, right duck.
Yeah, I'm

1732
01:40:20,070 --> 01:40:22,980
reading the thing. It's a mess.
Is this supposed to be funny or

1733
01:40:22,980 --> 01:40:26,040
terrifying? Because it's both
they're saying the president's

1734
01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:31,440
lawyer says the President told
him Muller has to go. Then Trump

1735
01:40:31,440 --> 01:40:35,970
asked him to say that it never
happened. That's in the report.

1736
01:40:36,060 --> 01:40:39,150
The Mueller report, right? Read
this thing. This is really

1737
01:40:39,150 --> 01:40:42,120
scary. This is some terrifying
shit. It's a fucking nightmare.

1738
01:40:42,540 --> 01:40:48,300
To be bummed out. I don't want
to be in this. Oh my god, this

1739
01:40:48,330 --> 01:40:53,700
is terrible. This is the end of
my presidency. I'm fucked. I'm

1740
01:40:54,450 --> 01:41:01,110
fucked on. Fuck, I'm fucked. I'm
sucked. Is that how it's gonna

1741
01:41:01,110 --> 01:41:02,790
end? I hope so.

1742
01:41:03,090 --> 01:41:08,610
Adam Curry: There you go. How
fabulous. Oh, so well done

1743
01:41:08,610 --> 01:41:11,760
Hollywood. And by the way, where
was anyone with a true

1744
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:19,050
interpretation of the unfucked?
Line? And you can interpret that

1745
01:41:19,050 --> 01:41:22,230
and it's just written, right?
It's everyone interpreted as

1746
01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:28,620
I've thought, Oh, my God, I'm
thought How about fucked? Could

1747
01:41:28,620 --> 01:41:30,570
be any any type of interpreter.
There's

1748
01:41:30,570 --> 01:41:32,280
John C. Dvorak: a lot of
interpretation. But the one that

1749
01:41:32,280 --> 01:41:34,500
gets me which is not is not you
don't have to interpret because

1750
01:41:34,500 --> 01:41:37,260
we heard them all say it, which
is that, hey, he was given one

1751
01:41:37,260 --> 01:41:40,200
of his ad lib speeches was in
front of the large audience at

1752
01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:44,190
25,000 saying, hey, Russia, if
you see if you can find that

1753
01:41:44,190 --> 01:41:48,090
30,000 emails, you know that
press will reward you. You never

1754
01:41:48,090 --> 01:41:51,210
said he was rewarded. And thank
you for her dad. And it's a

1755
01:41:51,210 --> 01:41:51,690
joke.

1756
01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:54,900
Adam Curry: Thank you for
bringing that up. There is some

1757
01:41:54,900 --> 01:41:58,560
new developments regarding the
well at first it was 30,000

1758
01:41:58,590 --> 01:42:01,470
emails and then somehow the
magic number came in and became

1759
01:42:01,470 --> 01:42:04,290
33,000 emails which I always
found like

1760
01:42:04,380 --> 01:42:06,120
John C. Dvorak: earlier, but
that was that meant it was

1761
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:07,560
important. It's a

1762
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:11,550
Adam Curry: very important
thing. Obviously. Chris Farrell

1763
01:42:11,580 --> 01:42:15,810
of Judicial Watch. Judicial
Watch has a right wing funded

1764
01:42:15,810 --> 01:42:22,500
group of lawyers, but they
maniacs. They are via their

1765
01:42:22,530 --> 01:42:24,240
attack dogs for sure. And

1766
01:42:24,240 --> 01:42:26,250
John C. Dvorak: they're in their
their honcho, the guy who

1767
01:42:26,250 --> 01:42:30,510
represents them on Twitter and
Tom just pumped up guy Tom

1768
01:42:30,510 --> 01:42:33,360
Fitton. Yeah, who's I'm
surprised he's not like kissing

1769
01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:35,130
his biceps every so often.

1770
01:42:36,059 --> 01:42:41,219
Adam Curry: Well, regardless of
his physique, Chris Farrell is

1771
01:42:41,249 --> 01:42:44,759
not the guy on Twitter, not the
pumped up guy, but he is a

1772
01:42:44,759 --> 01:42:49,469
lawyer. And he reports on this
particular show, which I don't

1773
01:42:49,469 --> 01:42:53,489
know if it's a rate. Well, it's
the Sebastian Gorka does either

1774
01:42:53,489 --> 01:42:57,239
podcast or radio show and I had
to cut the guy out I had to cut

1775
01:42:57,239 --> 01:43:00,119
Gorka out of the whole thing
because the way he operates

1776
01:43:00,119 --> 01:43:04,949
which is unlistenable is you'll
start saying something He'll

1777
01:43:04,949 --> 01:43:08,879
interrupt every six seconds,
repeat exactly what you said.

1778
01:43:09,209 --> 01:43:13,109
Luckily, there was some delay in
their communication. So I was

1779
01:43:13,139 --> 01:43:17,309
able to chop Gorka up and he's
fucking excuse me, he's really

1780
01:43:17,309 --> 01:43:19,919
annoys them out of there. I
sliced him out. So there's a

1781
01:43:19,919 --> 01:43:23,669
couple of unnatural jumps. Maybe
what happened is they'll just

1782
01:43:23,669 --> 01:43:27,239
give you the background and
we'll go into the clip. Judicial

1783
01:43:27,239 --> 01:43:31,619
Watch, wanted information about
the freedom. There's a Freedom

1784
01:43:31,619 --> 01:43:35,669
of Information Act for these
documents for all the emails,

1785
01:43:35,669 --> 01:43:37,739
everything at the State
Department hat. And apparently

1786
01:43:37,739 --> 01:43:40,649
the State Department was so
arrogant and being such dicks

1787
01:43:40,649 --> 01:43:44,999
about it, that one or two judges
said you know what, screw you

1788
01:43:44,999 --> 01:43:51,989
guys, mandatory deposition under
oath of anybody you guys want

1789
01:43:51,989 --> 01:43:54,989
within the State Department. And
they got one guy in the record,

1790
01:43:54,989 --> 01:43:59,639
his name is John Hackett. And
here is the story about that

1791
01:43:59,639 --> 01:44:00,629
testimony. This is

1792
01:44:00,630 --> 01:44:02,970
Unknown: big stuff, because we
have John Hackett is a former

1793
01:44:02,970 --> 01:44:05,970
State Department official. He
was the guy in charge of what

1794
01:44:05,970 --> 01:44:08,190
they call the Directorate of
Information Programs and

1795
01:44:08,190 --> 01:44:11,100
Services, which is a very
governmental way of saying all

1796
01:44:11,100 --> 01:44:14,580
the records all the Fourier
related stuff, among others, but

1797
01:44:14,580 --> 01:44:16,860
in particular for you, because
we had asked this goes all the

1798
01:44:16,860 --> 01:44:20,520
way back to Benghazi. So this is
the guy at State Department who

1799
01:44:20,520 --> 01:44:23,070
is responsible for processing
and handling all these records

1800
01:44:23,070 --> 01:44:26,670
and turning them over. He we
deposed him, meaning one of our

1801
01:44:26,670 --> 01:44:29,460
attorneys, actually two of our
attorneys sat down and the State

1802
01:44:29,460 --> 01:44:32,040
Department and the Justice
Department's behavior and

1803
01:44:32,040 --> 01:44:35,610
conduct in court has been so
outrageous that they got really

1804
01:44:35,610 --> 01:44:38,550
pissed off and they said, You
know what, we're not just going

1805
01:44:38,550 --> 01:44:41,100
to do this on paper. You're
going to get government

1806
01:44:41,100 --> 01:44:43,950
officials under oath and make
them swear to it and you can ask

1807
01:44:43,950 --> 01:44:46,860
whatever questions you want and
then the depositions themselves

1808
01:44:46,860 --> 01:44:49,950
the the transcripts, we posted
our website so everybody can

1809
01:44:49,950 --> 01:44:52,620
read what what went on. This is
outrageous. Mr. Hackett was

1810
01:44:52,620 --> 01:44:56,130
interviewed in a deposition
under oath. And he said, Look, I

1811
01:44:56,130 --> 01:44:58,860
warned Hillary Clinton her
staff, the Deputy Secretary of

1812
01:44:58,860 --> 01:45:02,910
State I a cast of characters, I
warned them about what they were

1813
01:45:02,910 --> 01:45:05,970
doing with records. He had
knowledge that they were trying

1814
01:45:05,970 --> 01:45:09,930
to destroy more than 30,000
emails and he said, What is your

1815
01:45:09,930 --> 01:45:12,810
practice? What's your program?
How are you arriving at this

1816
01:45:12,810 --> 01:45:16,920
decision? What's the guidance?
She was running her own server?

1817
01:45:16,950 --> 01:45:20,340
It's completely unlawful. But
they knew that she was using a

1818
01:45:20,340 --> 01:45:23,940
Blackberry fact he said Mr.
Hackett said under oath, I saw a

1819
01:45:23,940 --> 01:45:28,290
clip on the television of her
using a Blackberry on a flight

1820
01:45:28,290 --> 01:45:33,000
and that he goes, What's with
the Blackberry, it alarmed him,

1821
01:45:33,030 --> 01:45:35,190
this guy was actually trying to
do his job. He's trying to be a

1822
01:45:35,190 --> 01:45:38,760
good civil servant. And he was
freaked out by it and said, What

1823
01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:42,240
are we doing with this set of
records, who's looking at them?

1824
01:45:42,780 --> 01:45:46,650
He was astounded by it. And he
repeatedly warned the entire

1825
01:45:46,650 --> 01:45:50,280
chain of command of what was
going on. He was alarmed at

1826
01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:53,370
their destruction of emails. He
knew that there was another

1827
01:45:53,370 --> 01:45:56,130
attorney involved, who was
essentially the cover up artists

1828
01:45:56,130 --> 01:45:58,740
for all this. In fact, the
person who was actually working

1829
01:45:58,740 --> 01:46:01,170
in the Office of Legislative
Affairs, this is guilty

1830
01:46:01,170 --> 01:46:04,470
knowledge, foreknowledge
knowledge while it was going on,

1831
01:46:04,650 --> 01:46:07,440
and then in the aftermath, this
you know, what are we going to

1832
01:46:07,440 --> 01:46:10,650
do to destroy and cover up and
hide? It's utterly corrupt?

1833
01:46:13,110 --> 01:46:13,950
Yeah.

1834
01:46:16,110 --> 01:46:19,020
Adam Curry: This is what Hillary
Clinton some of it all, well,

1835
01:46:19,470 --> 01:46:22,020
this is what Hillary Clinton
meant when she said, we're all

1836
01:46:22,020 --> 01:46:24,450
we will all hang together from
nooses.

1837
01:46:24,870 --> 01:46:29,160
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. Yeah.
That's what she meant. Yeah, but

1838
01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:34,560
it turns out she's wrong.
Remedies hanging from any nooses

1839
01:46:34,590 --> 01:46:36,570
not yet. Well,

1840
01:46:37,890 --> 01:46:41,790
Adam Curry: I mean, we we even I
remember us on the Blackberry,

1841
01:46:41,790 --> 01:46:45,750
we use using the Blackberry,
BlackBerry, si government apace.

1842
01:46:45,750 --> 01:46:47,580
You can use a Blackberry

1843
01:46:48,210 --> 01:46:51,960
John C. Dvorak: Crackberry I
have a ash atom if you want to

1844
01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:52,710
play God, I'm

1845
01:46:52,710 --> 01:46:55,260
Adam Curry: always interested
in. I want to play Do I have a

1846
01:46:55,260 --> 01:46:56,820
choice? Can I opt out?

1847
01:46:56,820 --> 01:46:59,130
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, you can
say no, not now. I got a clip.

1848
01:46:59,970 --> 01:47:03,960
Adam Curry: No, what I need is
my jingle. All right. My Jingle

1849
01:47:07,080 --> 01:47:13,230
All right, I'm ready. Is it?
Okay, well, no, I can do more. I

1850
01:47:13,230 --> 01:47:20,130
have another genius. As well, he
know Oh, really? Well, I don't

1851
01:47:20,130 --> 01:47:21,870
know. But here we go.

1852
01:47:24,690 --> 01:47:27,930
John C. Dvorak: All right. Okay.
Sorry. Did that. Let's go with

1853
01:47:27,930 --> 01:47:30,990
number one. This is an
interesting guy. It's just been

1854
01:47:30,990 --> 01:47:35,100
going on. There's a big scandal
because the integration in

1855
01:47:35,100 --> 01:47:39,030
schools you know, Kamala Harris
is making a big stink about

1856
01:47:39,030 --> 01:47:41,670
being bused when the when the
Berkeley schools are already

1857
01:47:41,670 --> 01:47:45,270
integrated. And they went over
with to talk about that. But it

1858
01:47:45,270 --> 01:47:48,810
turns out the big bastion of
liberalism in this country and

1859
01:47:49,020 --> 01:47:53,460
and multiculturalism and
diversity is New York, and

1860
01:47:53,460 --> 01:47:56,340
they're the worst for all the
where and this play this clip

1861
01:47:56,370 --> 01:47:58,170
the landmark 1954

1862
01:47:58,170 --> 01:48:00,750
Unknown: Supreme Court decision,
Brown versus Board of Education

1863
01:48:00,750 --> 01:48:03,600
declared school based racial
segregation to be

1864
01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:07,470
unconstitutional. It was
intended to desegregate schools.

1865
01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:10,500
But that isn't exactly what
happened, at least in New York

1866
01:48:10,500 --> 01:48:14,040
State. Researchers have found
that New York City has some of

1867
01:48:14,070 --> 01:48:18,060
America's most segregated
schools, and the first of a two

1868
01:48:18,060 --> 01:48:20,760
part report examining school
diversity and equity in New York

1869
01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:24,300
City. I met with a group of
students protesting segregation

1870
01:48:24,480 --> 01:48:27,360
and visited a district in
Brooklyn with a plan to increase

1871
01:48:27,360 --> 01:48:30,630
diversity. This is part of our
ongoing series chasing the

1872
01:48:30,630 --> 01:48:34,140
dream, poverty and opportunity
in America on the 65th

1873
01:48:34,140 --> 01:48:37,050
anniversary of Brown versus
Board of Education. Last month,

1874
01:48:37,080 --> 01:48:40,170
students from across New York
City gathered in Times Square,

1875
01:48:40,230 --> 01:48:43,650
they handed out newspapers
declaring retire segregation and

1876
01:48:43,650 --> 01:48:46,200
called to the city's public
schools to be integrated.

1877
01:48:46,230 --> 01:48:46,620
There's been

1878
01:48:46,620 --> 01:48:50,700
65 years since segregation in
schools on the basis of race was

1879
01:48:50,700 --> 01:48:52,380
ruled unconstitutional.

1880
01:48:52,500 --> 01:48:56,430
A UCLA study of public schools
found in 2014 and again this

1881
01:48:56,430 --> 01:48:59,970
year that New York remains the
most segregated state for

1882
01:48:59,970 --> 01:49:04,320
African American students with
65% of them in intensely

1883
01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:06,990
segregated schools. Okay.

1884
01:49:07,830 --> 01:49:11,760
John C. Dvorak: The question is
what state is number two? Texas?

1885
01:49:13,260 --> 01:49:14,400
Unknown: Wrong now?

1886
01:49:14,460 --> 01:49:17,940
Adam Curry: Because Austin
Austin has nothing but white

1887
01:49:17,940 --> 01:49:21,930
schools, pretending, pretending
to be integrated.

1888
01:49:21,990 --> 01:49:25,740
John C. Dvorak: It's another
bastion of liberalism. Illinois

1889
01:49:25,740 --> 01:49:32,730
is number two. Chicago interest
Oh, yeah, that's what I thought

1890
01:49:32,730 --> 01:49:36,540
that was interesting myself.
Okay. Let's play a clip to

1891
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:39,990
Unknown: the study found it was
the second most segregated state

1892
01:49:39,990 --> 01:49:43,710
for Latino students. Ah,

1893
01:49:44,370 --> 01:49:48,240
John C. Dvorak: what is the
first most segregated state for

1894
01:49:48,240 --> 01:49:51,810
Latino students? New York being
number two California?

1895
01:49:54,030 --> 01:49:55,230
Unknown: Yes, I nailed that.

1896
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:02,790
John C. Dvorak: They're bastion
of liberalism.

1897
01:50:03,510 --> 01:50:05,370
Adam Curry: They talk a big game
don't they?

1898
01:50:05,730 --> 01:50:08,550
John C. Dvorak: Tell like a big
game and a bunch of phonies game

1899
01:50:08,550 --> 01:50:09,690
and do nothing just like

1900
01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:13,320
Adam Curry: Austin once told I
got a bunch of phonies in Austin

1901
01:50:13,320 --> 01:50:17,370
to phonies yet talk. You got
your diversity. You got all your

1902
01:50:17,370 --> 01:50:20,310
programs, you have your
meetings, your council meetings,

1903
01:50:20,310 --> 01:50:21,660
your phone A's.

1904
01:50:23,220 --> 01:50:26,940
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, that's
pretty much it. Big talk, no

1905
01:50:26,940 --> 01:50:30,510
action. Now the default this is
just a wrap up clip as yet no

1906
01:50:30,510 --> 01:50:31,380
more questions.

1907
01:50:31,560 --> 01:50:33,600
Unknown: We sat down with three
new york city high school

1908
01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:36,930
students, members of the group
integrate NYC who've been

1909
01:50:36,930 --> 01:50:39,270
meeting with school district
leadership, urging them to

1910
01:50:39,270 --> 01:50:42,630
implement what they call a real
integration plan for the next

1911
01:50:42,630 --> 01:50:43,830
generation of students.

1912
01:50:44,160 --> 01:50:47,970
Looking at how the city is
segregated. We've noticed that

1913
01:50:47,970 --> 01:50:52,230
there are five main ways that
desegregation happens,

1914
01:50:52,380 --> 01:50:55,410
the students plan addresses what
they call the five R's,

1915
01:50:55,470 --> 01:50:58,980
the enrollment process, the
resources that are distributed

1916
01:50:59,130 --> 01:51:02,490
the relationships in the schools
and the curriculum, restorative

1917
01:51:02,490 --> 01:51:07,800
justice practices, and teachers
really integration in schools,

1918
01:51:07,980 --> 01:51:10,140
low resource for everybody. And
how do you get

1919
01:51:10,140 --> 01:51:13,890
there by getting more young
people into movement, because

1920
01:51:13,890 --> 01:51:16,380
they're the ones that are
affected by the system, telling

1921
01:51:16,380 --> 01:51:19,170
students that don't feel like
leaders that they are leaders

1922
01:51:19,170 --> 01:51:21,270
and they can make change in
their own schools?

1923
01:51:21,299 --> 01:51:23,909
What does an integrated school
look like to

1924
01:51:24,030 --> 01:51:28,320
an integrated school would
reflect the outwards community,

1925
01:51:28,380 --> 01:51:34,020
if there's a certain percentage
of white students Black, Asian,

1926
01:51:34,050 --> 01:51:36,990
Latin X, the school should be
able to reflect that their

1927
01:51:36,990 --> 01:51:40,680
students who like maybe their
first language isn't English,

1928
01:51:40,740 --> 01:51:42,840
right? Students are English
language learners, students with

1929
01:51:42,840 --> 01:51:47,160
disabilities, there's different
ways that students experience

1930
01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:51,030
life. And all of those different
experiences put together in a

1931
01:51:51,030 --> 01:51:54,150
school community are what make
it so different and special and

1932
01:51:54,150 --> 01:51:58,050
help the students learn from not
only the content they're being

1933
01:51:58,050 --> 01:51:58,980
taught, but each other.

1934
01:51:59,940 --> 01:52:01,650
John C. Dvorak: Each other. They
don't know what they're doing.

1935
01:52:01,650 --> 01:52:02,370
In other words,

1936
01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:07,320
Adam Curry: I do some research.
Yeah, so I have, I had my

1937
01:52:07,320 --> 01:52:11,580
thoughts on this type of stuff.
And let me see this comes from

1938
01:52:11,580 --> 01:52:16,860
education next. Today, Los
Angeles and California as a

1939
01:52:16,860 --> 01:52:20,460
whole have abandoned integration
as the chief mechanism of school

1940
01:52:20,460 --> 01:52:26,070
reform and embraced charter
schools instead. This has

1941
01:52:26,070 --> 01:52:29,160
happened all over the country.
But California has led the way

1942
01:52:29,160 --> 01:52:32,760
it has 630,000 students in
charter schools more than any

1943
01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:36,210
other state, and the Los Angeles
Unified School District has more

1944
01:52:36,210 --> 01:52:40,710
than 154,000 of them. charters
are associated with choice and

1945
01:52:40,710 --> 01:52:44,700
innovation, important elements
of the good life that California

1946
01:52:44,700 --> 01:52:48,600
is famous for, in a deep blue
state open in the street, a deep

1947
01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:51,090
blue state that good life
theoretically includes

1948
01:52:51,090 --> 01:52:53,760
diversity, and many white
liberals believe charters can

1949
01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:57,270
achieve that too. After all, a
do it yourself school can do

1950
01:52:57,270 --> 01:53:00,660
anything at once. But it
doesn't, because you're phonies.

1951
01:53:00,780 --> 01:53:06,420
We got tons of charter schools
in Austin, phonies, the bus

1952
01:53:06,420 --> 01:53:09,300
white children to black schools,
that's what I'm for.

1953
01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:13,440
John C. Dvorak: Well, I'm not
for any of it.

1954
01:53:14,250 --> 01:53:15,450
Unknown: I'm just yelling in the
wind.

1955
01:53:15,780 --> 01:53:19,980
John C. Dvorak: I think the
whole thing is ridiculous that

1956
01:53:19,980 --> 01:53:24,540
people should go to the school
that's closest to them. And if

1957
01:53:24,540 --> 01:53:27,720
it happens to be largely biker
rot, largely wider, it mixed or

1958
01:53:27,720 --> 01:53:30,990
they're halfway between this and
that, that's the way it is you

1959
01:53:30,990 --> 01:53:33,690
just cater to them. But you make
sure that they have the same

1960
01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:36,960
quality of education, which is
the hard part, they can't do

1961
01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:41,460
that. So it's just a mess.

1962
01:53:41,610 --> 01:53:43,200
Adam Curry: Well, at any rate,
um, by the

1963
01:53:43,200 --> 01:53:45,570
John C. Dvorak: way, New York is
going to be if anyone dies to

1964
01:53:45,570 --> 01:53:47,790
invest in things, I think
private schools and maybe

1965
01:53:47,790 --> 01:53:50,640
charter schools, New York in
particular is going to be a

1966
01:53:50,640 --> 01:53:53,730
target because they are taken
down. There's your New York's

1967
01:53:53,730 --> 01:53:57,450
got a bunch of these special
pointy toy at school, Stuyvesant

1968
01:53:57,450 --> 01:54:01,350
and the arts and whatever it is
the dramatic art school there's

1969
01:54:01,350 --> 01:54:04,680
a bunch of these high schools
that are of high and public

1970
01:54:04,680 --> 01:54:08,190
schools for kids that are
special in terms of like ears,

1971
01:54:08,220 --> 01:54:11,550
they can sing, they can dance,
or they are they're really

1972
01:54:11,550 --> 01:54:14,730
smart. Like they're geniuses,
they put them in these special

1973
01:54:14,730 --> 01:54:17,010
schools and they keep them there
and they get them push them off

1974
01:54:17,010 --> 01:54:23,010
to MIT, and they're good to go.
Those are all through. They're

1975
01:54:23,010 --> 01:54:25,140
not gonna let those be and
you're not gonna if you're a

1976
01:54:25,170 --> 01:54:28,170
smart kid, you can end up
anywhere. So private schools is

1977
01:54:28,170 --> 01:54:29,730
what's going to happen in New
York, they're going to take

1978
01:54:29,730 --> 01:54:32,970
over, they've stayed off New
York has stopped a private

1979
01:54:32,970 --> 01:54:37,170
school movement is LA's private
schools, but they've put a kind

1980
01:54:37,170 --> 01:54:40,320
of tamped it down by having
these special schools for

1981
01:54:40,320 --> 01:54:43,320
special kids who are really
smart or really talented. But

1982
01:54:43,320 --> 01:54:47,580
now that's over so they're just
gonna just fall apart. New

1983
01:54:47,580 --> 01:54:48,570
York's screwed

1984
01:54:49,050 --> 01:54:52,050
Adam Curry: in California is not
no California's been

1985
01:54:52,050 --> 01:54:54,390
John C. Dvorak: screwed.
California's workout pooping on

1986
01:54:54,390 --> 01:54:58,530
the street going on here? No,
California is a big mess and

1987
01:54:58,530 --> 01:55:00,420
then they're now they're
checking their chart. Gene does

1988
01:55:00,420 --> 01:55:03,420
extra gasoline tax is going to
be they're going to add we

1989
01:55:03,420 --> 01:55:05,520
already have the highest
gasoline price in the country

1990
01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:08,820
they're going by law I think is
coming up is going to be

1991
01:55:08,850 --> 01:55:12,930
exhibited drop 75 cents on it.
And then they're gonna drop

1992
01:55:12,930 --> 01:55:17,940
every year another 50 cents 50
cents 50 cents forever, man. So

1993
01:55:17,940 --> 01:55:20,370
it's just ended GE, they can't
do anything about it at least

1994
01:55:20,370 --> 01:55:22,110
for now. How long are you going
to hang in there?

1995
01:55:23,910 --> 01:55:25,860
Adam Curry: The best so you
don't go anywhere. So you don't

1996
01:55:25,860 --> 01:55:31,110
need gas. You don't need petrol.
So you're just just hanging

1997
01:55:31,110 --> 01:55:34,020
around to the poop comes all the
way up your your walkway

1998
01:55:34,020 --> 01:55:34,320
floating

1999
01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:36,570
John C. Dvorak: in yet on the
other side of the bay. So it's

2000
01:55:37,170 --> 01:55:40,200
the Marina Bay is full of poop
stinks.

2001
01:55:40,260 --> 01:55:44,430
Adam Curry: So I was watching
Tucker Carlson on I think it was

2002
01:55:44,430 --> 01:55:48,870
Monday. And he did his whole
week from Japan and North Korea.

2003
01:55:48,870 --> 01:55:53,910
And he got an interview with the
President. And he was at the at

2004
01:55:53,910 --> 01:55:57,990
the now famous. I won't say
infamous but the actual famous

2005
01:55:58,020 --> 01:56:03,030
crossing of the demilitarized
zone into North Korea. Which by

2006
01:56:03,030 --> 01:56:06,510
the way, from everything I saw,
the President walked that

2007
01:56:06,510 --> 01:56:09,630
himself no secret service,
nothing was around him. He

2008
01:56:09,630 --> 01:56:13,800
walked out himself. I thought
that was like, all right. You're

2009
01:56:13,800 --> 01:56:16,500
pretty sure yourself. Yeah, I
think that took some nerve. But

2010
01:56:16,500 --> 01:56:16,590
I

2011
01:56:16,589 --> 01:56:18,389
John C. Dvorak: took it because
he did probably didn't take

2012
01:56:18,389 --> 01:56:21,149
nerve because I believe that I
was telling people how much I'd

2013
01:56:21,149 --> 01:56:24,389
love to go to North Korea and
the liberals, you know, in the

2014
01:56:24,389 --> 01:56:28,319
area. Oh my god, that horrible
dictator, how would you How

2015
01:56:28,319 --> 01:56:32,009
could you do that? You're gonna
get killed. I don't believe

2016
01:56:32,009 --> 01:56:35,579
that's true, I think is
bullcrap. Well, the Trump didn't

2017
01:56:35,579 --> 01:56:38,099
have a problem walking across.
But of course, liberals will

2018
01:56:38,099 --> 01:56:40,859
have made a big fuss about it
because oh my god.

2019
01:56:42,060 --> 01:56:45,030
Adam Curry: Not just liberals
just, well, people who are in

2020
01:56:46,590 --> 01:56:49,050
John C. Dvorak: a lot of people.
The right wing isn't for this

2021
01:56:49,050 --> 01:56:49,500
either.

2022
01:56:49,530 --> 01:56:51,900
Adam Curry: But Tucker Carlson
was doing something very

2023
01:56:51,900 --> 01:56:56,850
strange. He was kept taking
pictures of the North Korean

2024
01:56:56,850 --> 01:57:00,180
Secret Service guys. And he kept
showing them from his iPhone.

2025
01:57:00,180 --> 01:57:05,970
Oh, look, these guys What did it
it was really weird. I mean, I

2026
01:57:05,970 --> 01:57:08,460
don't know why he did that. But
he kept saying, Oh, look at

2027
01:57:08,460 --> 01:57:11,340
these uncouth individuals. Oh,
they look so strange. Whoa,

2028
01:57:11,490 --> 01:57:13,620
that'll make you think like
that. Have you ever taken

2029
01:57:13,620 --> 01:57:16,440
pictures of our Secret Service
guys, they look pretty creepy,

2030
01:57:16,440 --> 01:57:18,810
too. It was just it was unpaper.
That

2031
01:57:18,810 --> 01:57:21,270
John C. Dvorak: was just a pass
on the images to the CIA or

2032
01:57:21,270 --> 01:57:22,890
wherever Tucker's really working
for

2033
01:57:23,070 --> 01:57:27,150
Adam Curry: now. There's an
interesting point. I like that.

2034
01:57:27,360 --> 01:57:29,340
John C. Dvorak: So what you do
you go in and take pictures of

2035
01:57:30,570 --> 01:57:33,840
you know, the crowd, you only
take pictures of the crowd, but

2036
01:57:33,840 --> 01:57:36,390
you actually zooming in a
certain characters and then you

2037
01:57:36,390 --> 01:57:38,280
pass them on, you get paid?
Well.

2038
01:57:39,870 --> 01:57:42,900
Adam Curry: Then he had an
interview with the President,

2039
01:57:42,900 --> 01:57:47,160
which was pretty dry. There
wasn't a lot going on. But we

2040
01:57:47,160 --> 01:57:49,920
here at the no agenda show we
have a theory that the truth

2041
01:57:49,920 --> 01:57:55,290
always wants to come out. And it
slips out in weird ways. And

2042
01:57:55,290 --> 01:57:58,500
with this President, you never
quite know. But he slipped out a

2043
01:57:58,500 --> 01:58:02,130
lot of truths in his in his
speaking and he just kind of

2044
01:58:02,130 --> 01:58:06,930
continues and no one ever calls
him on it, which was weird. When

2045
01:58:06,930 --> 01:58:06,990
I

2046
01:58:06,990 --> 01:58:09,690
John C. Dvorak: heard whatever
calls anybody on anything,

2047
01:58:10,110 --> 01:58:12,870
Unknown: you can very close to
send the US military to strike

2048
01:58:12,870 --> 01:58:17,460
Iran, you pull back at the last
moment. You were criticized by

2049
01:58:17,460 --> 01:58:20,160
Neo cons in Washington for doing
that. They want you to strike

2050
01:58:20,250 --> 01:58:21,480
Iran. Why do you think they

2051
01:58:21,480 --> 01:58:23,790
want and I was given a lot of
credit by most people. A lot of

2052
01:58:23,790 --> 01:58:25,890
people gave me a lot of public
was on your side for sure. Other

2053
01:58:25,890 --> 01:58:28,800
people said that was a great
presidential moment, which was,

2054
01:58:28,800 --> 01:58:34,350
you know, rather shocking to
hear. So we shut down and

2055
01:58:34,470 --> 01:58:37,080
unmanned drone. And

2056
01:58:37,890 --> 01:58:44,820
John C. Dvorak: what? Wow, it's
a good one. Well, hold on a

2057
01:58:44,820 --> 01:58:49,140
second. Right. Dan Tucker, of
course, caught that. He's

2058
01:58:49,140 --> 01:58:51,990
listening carefully. Because
Tucker, when people interview

2059
01:58:51,990 --> 01:58:55,500
somebody, they listen to what
they have to say. And so Tucker

2060
01:58:55,620 --> 01:58:58,410
caught that and called him on
it. And then Trump corrected the

2061
01:58:58,410 --> 01:58:59,070
problem, right?

2062
01:58:59,130 --> 01:59:01,020
Adam Curry: No, he showed more
of those pictures of the

2063
01:59:01,020 --> 01:59:02,520
security guys no

2064
01:59:02,550 --> 01:59:09,540
Unknown: to hear. So we shut
down and unmanned drone and

2065
01:59:09,600 --> 01:59:11,130
yelling was over their
territory.

2066
01:59:11,640 --> 01:59:14,790
Adam Curry: No, it's worse. He
affirms that we shot down the

2067
01:59:14,790 --> 01:59:16,950
unmanned drone by saying yeah,
yeah,

2068
01:59:17,220 --> 01:59:23,220
Unknown: so we shut down and
unmanned drone and they claimed

2069
01:59:23,220 --> 01:59:25,500
was over their territory which
it wasn't but they would say

2070
01:59:25,500 --> 01:59:27,900
that so on top of it they'll say
unmanned and over their

2071
01:59:27,900 --> 01:59:32,250
territory and then we go in
before I sent them out. They had

2072
01:59:32,250 --> 01:59:35,520
to give me everything I wanted
to know by seven o'clock

2073
01:59:36,270 --> 01:59:41,940
Adam Curry: fine. So when I hear
that kind of stuff, it's G

2074
01:59:41,940 --> 01:59:47,430
wasn't it's like, was it
Rumsfeld? Let me find it. I'm

2075
01:59:47,430 --> 01:59:51,300
sure we have the Rumsfeld to be
have a note here. This is

2076
01:59:51,300 --> 01:59:54,960
Rumsfeld. Talking about flight
93

2077
01:59:55,110 --> 02:00:01,080
Unknown: cents if we imagine the
kind of world we would face If

2078
02:00:01,080 --> 02:00:04,860
the people who bombed the best
ball and Mosley or the people

2079
02:00:04,890 --> 02:00:08,430
who did the bombing in Spain are
the people who attack the United

2080
02:00:08,430 --> 02:00:12,900
States in New York shut down the
plane over Pennsylvania attack

2081
02:00:12,900 --> 02:00:13,470
the Pentagon

2082
02:00:16,590 --> 02:00:20,550
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah shut down
the plane over Pennsylvania sure

2083
02:00:20,700 --> 02:00:26,910
sure that happened no no when I
hear this stuff I think okay, so

2084
02:00:26,910 --> 02:00:32,280
we shot down the drone I don't
know it just doesn't sound like

2085
02:00:32,280 --> 02:00:36,120
he like that's it sounds like
the truth wind to come out that

2086
02:00:36,120 --> 02:00:39,330
whole thing sound like a bull
crap false flag in the whole

2087
02:00:39,330 --> 02:00:43,110
thing was a bull crap. Luckily,
no one the President didn't fall

2088
02:00:43,110 --> 02:00:51,060
for it. Is just thank God we do
this show. Who else want to be

2089
02:00:51,060 --> 02:00:53,040
able to share this stuff with
except my wife.

2090
02:00:55,770 --> 02:00:59,310
John C. Dvorak: It and b Oh
codger. We get to be old codgers

2091
02:00:59,310 --> 02:01:04,260
and in public. And the way I see
it, here's one of the things

2092
02:01:04,260 --> 02:01:06,870
that you can do one of these
things that got my got my

2093
02:01:06,870 --> 02:01:12,960
attention was well, here's by
the way, here's the I'm going to

2094
02:01:12,960 --> 02:01:16,410
skip that and go to this. This
is because I've been following

2095
02:01:16,410 --> 02:01:21,120
this especially on CBS with the
Major Garrett because the the

2096
02:01:21,150 --> 02:01:24,270
media who is keeps going on and
on, but they don't like to have

2097
02:01:24,270 --> 02:01:29,610
this July 4 thing going on,
especially with the play, this

2098
02:01:29,610 --> 02:01:30,510
plays a flag,

2099
02:01:30,540 --> 02:01:33,930
Adam Curry: oh tanks, tanks and
weapons. They get the tanks.

2100
02:01:35,280 --> 02:01:38,220
John C. Dvorak: And so it's now
it's we used to be a nonpartisan

2101
02:01:38,220 --> 02:01:42,060
celebration of July 4. Now, it's
all about Trump. And they keep

2102
02:01:42,060 --> 02:01:44,880
saying that, and I don't see
that it's all about Trump. It's

2103
02:01:44,880 --> 02:01:48,570
all about Trump wanting to have
a big party maybe. But it's not

2104
02:01:48,570 --> 02:01:52,170
about that. It's about the party
itself. And so I've had a bunch

2105
02:01:52,170 --> 02:01:55,440
I kept collecting clips all week
about this and Gary is the worst

2106
02:01:55,440 --> 02:01:57,960
but they finally backed off a
little bit, but I thought we'd

2107
02:01:57,960 --> 02:02:02,010
do an update of the shindig
which is tonight today, July 4

2108
02:02:02,010 --> 02:02:05,400
shindig in Washington DC with
the tanks and here's they still

2109
02:02:05,430 --> 02:02:08,400
die. They still play this kind
of a nasty thing.

2110
02:02:08,429 --> 02:02:11,549
Unknown: President is promising
the show of a lifetime tomorrow

2111
02:02:11,549 --> 02:02:14,999
in Washington. Tonight as we
speak, the military hardware is

2112
02:02:14,999 --> 02:02:18,779
being put into place. Stages and
stands are being prepared and

2113
02:02:18,779 --> 02:02:20,969
our chief Washington
correspondent Major Garrett is

2114
02:02:20,969 --> 02:02:25,709
at the Lincoln Memorial tonight
major. Good evening, David and

2115
02:02:25,709 --> 02:02:29,009
welcome to a hot and humid steps
of the Lincoln Memorial over my

2116
02:02:29,009 --> 02:02:32,039
shoulder you see the Army Band
formerly known as Pershing zone.

2117
02:02:32,219 --> 02:02:33,929
Part of the pageantry here,
they're working through their

2118
02:02:33,929 --> 02:02:37,529
rehearsals. To my left, you see
one of two Bradley infantry

2119
02:02:37,529 --> 02:02:40,619
vehicles, part of the
militarized pageantry. And when

2120
02:02:40,619 --> 02:02:43,049
the President talks about the
show, that's an important word

2121
02:02:43,049 --> 02:02:46,799
because this is his show stage
managed for weeks by the White

2122
02:02:46,799 --> 02:02:49,949
House of the cost, and there
will be many the President said

2123
02:02:49,949 --> 02:02:52,019
well, that'd be very little
compared to what this is all

2124
02:02:52,019 --> 02:02:55,169
worth. We have one figure that's
worth noting. Reportedly, the

2125
02:02:55,169 --> 02:02:59,879
National Park Service will have
to use $2.5 million in user fees

2126
02:02:59,879 --> 02:03:03,029
from other national parks to
help defray some of the costs

2127
02:03:03,029 --> 02:03:05,879
here, David major we know the
President will be there. Who

2128
02:03:05,879 --> 02:03:08,459
else is going to be with him?
Well, let me give you some

2129
02:03:08,459 --> 02:03:11,609
visuals on that my photographer
Tony Furla will show you the one

2130
02:03:11,609 --> 02:03:15,299
bleacher wrapped in bunting that
is for VIPs, who are the VIPs

2131
02:03:15,299 --> 02:03:18,719
that will be for the White House
to decide. Some of those VIPs

2132
02:03:18,719 --> 02:03:22,619
will be Republican Party donors,
creating a bit of partisanship

2133
02:03:22,619 --> 02:03:27,179
muddying what is historically a
nonpartisan event. As for all

2134
02:03:27,179 --> 02:03:29,669
the other matters here the
district government wants to be

2135
02:03:29,669 --> 02:03:32,759
repaid for any additional costs.
The biggest thing here to think

2136
02:03:32,759 --> 02:03:34,979
about David and one of the
biggest challenges for everyone

2137
02:03:34,979 --> 02:03:38,459
the president and involved in
this the weather forecast for

2138
02:03:38,459 --> 02:03:43,199
this Fourth of July here 80%
chance of thunderstorms and

2139
02:03:43,199 --> 02:03:44,309
possibly lightning if

2140
02:03:48,300 --> 02:03:49,830
Adam Curry: I think I can tap
that.

2141
02:03:50,610 --> 02:03:54,540
John C. Dvorak: By the way, the
host of the anchorman should

2142
02:03:54,540 --> 02:03:59,220
have asked him. Why are you
shouting? It? Okay?

2143
02:04:00,300 --> 02:04:03,300
Adam Curry: Our topic see you
really don't understand. You

2144
02:04:03,300 --> 02:04:06,750
don't understand what this is
about. I mean, what why do we

2145
02:04:06,750 --> 02:04:10,290
have military parades? We've had
them in America we I recall

2146
02:04:10,290 --> 02:04:11,520
being on a drill team.

2147
02:04:13,290 --> 02:04:15,690
John C. Dvorak: Talking about
who you are to baton twirler.

2148
02:04:15,870 --> 02:04:20,700
Adam Curry: Oh, no, no, you get
you get a an old I guess an M

2149
02:04:20,700 --> 02:04:27,930
one. M one Yeah, it's well, it's
heaviest. F it weighs

2150
02:04:27,930 --> 02:04:28,320
John C. Dvorak: a ton.

2151
02:04:28,320 --> 02:04:30,930
Adam Curry: You gotta squirrel
that around. You got to march

2152
02:04:30,930 --> 02:04:33,990
and then and I've we've talked
about this for sure. Many, many

2153
02:04:33,990 --> 02:04:37,680
years ago. No. Yes. Michel,
remember lies

2154
02:04:37,680 --> 02:04:40,620
John C. Dvorak: you and in this
thing. I will I will tell you

2155
02:04:40,620 --> 02:04:41,910
the tall guy you'd be out in
front in a

2156
02:04:41,910 --> 02:04:44,880
Adam Curry: minute. I will jog
your memory code 44

2157
02:04:46,710 --> 02:04:48,030
John C. Dvorak: jugs, nothing
code.

2158
02:04:48,060 --> 02:04:51,570
Adam Curry: If you hear code 44
That means that there's horse

2159
02:04:51,570 --> 02:04:55,110
crap and yeah, be prepared to
march over it or step through it

2160
02:04:55,110 --> 02:05:00,930
or whatever. That was code 44
Yeah. So Why do we do this? Is

2161
02:05:00,930 --> 02:05:04,230
it pride? Is it personally I
think, you know, with the amount

2162
02:05:04,230 --> 02:05:09,060
of money we spend on it. I don't
mind seeing it and it's a big fu

2163
02:05:09,060 --> 02:05:13,590
to the rest of the world. That's
what we do. We here we are,

2164
02:05:13,620 --> 02:05:17,310
we've got the biggest we have
the most powerful. Screw you

2165
02:05:17,340 --> 02:05:21,120
This is us. Everyone else does
it except for Europe than they

2166
02:05:21,120 --> 02:05:26,250
don't have the European Armed
Forces yet France. Well, you

2167
02:05:26,250 --> 02:05:29,760
see, you're wrong. You're wrong.
France doesn't do it. For those

2168
02:05:29,760 --> 02:05:33,150
reasons. France does it for
different reasons. And you're so

2169
02:05:33,150 --> 02:05:36,150
wrong, that you could never be
joy Reid's friend.

2170
02:05:36,180 --> 02:05:39,840
Unknown: And can I just You
mentioned, you know, France and

2171
02:05:39,930 --> 02:05:42,420
Kim Jong Un who, you know,
Donald Trump can greatly admires

2172
02:05:42,420 --> 02:05:45,480
Kim Jong Un he sort of aspires
to be sort of a mini you know,

2173
02:05:45,480 --> 02:05:47,190
Putin or Kim Jong Un he wants to
be that.

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02:05:48,480 --> 02:05:52,830
Adam Curry: No, this is the this
is a I don't like the term. So I

2175
02:05:52,920 --> 02:05:57,270
I rarely use it if at all. This
is true Trump derangement

2176
02:05:57,270 --> 02:06:00,870
syndrome. I don't like the term
because it's not a real thing.

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02:06:01,110 --> 02:06:06,030
But the the, the apparent
effects of whatever's going on

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02:06:06,210 --> 02:06:10,110
is a real thing to say this is
TDs aspires

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Unknown: to be sort of a mini
you know, Putin or Kim Jong Un

2180
02:06:12,810 --> 02:06:15,330
he wants to be that kind of that
kind of absolute power. He

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02:06:15,330 --> 02:06:17,460
claims Kim Jong Un's people just
adore him well they have no

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02:06:17,460 --> 02:06:20,130
choice because he throw them in
a gulag and probably kill them.

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02:06:20,970 --> 02:06:24,030
But you think about the Bastille
Day celebration, what is that

2184
02:06:24,030 --> 02:06:27,030
celebration about what is the
message that's meant to be sent?

2185
02:06:27,540 --> 02:06:30,780
Adam Curry: Well let me stop
since you brought up the steel

2186
02:06:30,780 --> 02:06:33,540
day What is the message what is
the message to be sent by having

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02:06:33,540 --> 02:06:36,720
a parade on Bastille Day before
I have joy read school you

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02:06:38,520 --> 02:06:41,730
John C. Dvorak: I would say was
similar to the Fourth of July

2189
02:06:41,760 --> 02:06:46,440
was the French Revolution yes
the day that everything you know

2190
02:06:46,440 --> 02:06:47,040
happened if

2191
02:06:47,040 --> 02:06:50,760
Adam Curry: so who are the who
was the show of force meant for

2192
02:06:51,510 --> 02:06:52,440
John C. Dvorak: chopped heads

2193
02:06:52,500 --> 02:06:55,620
Unknown: either like military
Armada that's rolling down the

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02:06:55,620 --> 02:06:59,190
streets of Paris. It's a message
to tyrants would Bastille Day

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02:06:59,190 --> 02:07:03,090
support our you know represent
is the victory over tyrannical

2196
02:07:03,090 --> 02:07:03,540
rule?

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02:07:03,750 --> 02:07:05,220
Adam Curry: Is that what it
represents?

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02:07:07,980 --> 02:07:10,440
John C. Dvorak: I think it's a
stretch you could maybe say that

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because it was when they
overthrew the monarchy at the

2200
02:07:15,150 --> 02:07:18,240
time I think a guillotine pirate
sighs of sorts make them eat

2201
02:07:18,270 --> 02:07:20,070
cake. I think a guillotine

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02:07:20,070 --> 02:07:22,140
Adam Curry: would have been more
representative but okay, I'll

2203
02:07:22,140 --> 02:07:22,620
take it but

2204
02:07:22,620 --> 02:07:25,830
Unknown: the king and over the
attempt for the King to return

2205
02:07:26,010 --> 02:07:28,860
the storming of the Bastille was
about victory over tyrants. What

2206
02:07:28,860 --> 02:07:32,340
is the message when Kim Jong
unrolls tanks down the streets

2207
02:07:32,370 --> 02:07:36,060
of his capital? The message is
to democracies it's the messages

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02:07:36,060 --> 02:07:38,520
to people like us to Western
democracies. You better be

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02:07:38,520 --> 02:07:42,540
careful because we the unified
Korean North Korean people will

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02:07:42,540 --> 02:07:46,170
defeat you we have nukes be
afraid of us. So what is the

2211
02:07:46,170 --> 02:07:48,810
message Donald Trump is trying
to send by rolling tanks down

2212
02:07:48,810 --> 02:07:52,020
Constitution Avenue who is that
message to? It's certainly not

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02:07:52,020 --> 02:07:55,170
to tyrants because he likes
tyrants. He loves tyrants. It's

2214
02:07:55,170 --> 02:07:58,410
not to Putin. It's not to Kim
Jong Un. It's not to the Saudis.

2215
02:07:58,590 --> 02:08:01,290
Is it to our friends, a friend
democracies and we didn't

2216
02:08:01,290 --> 02:08:04,350
particularly like or is it to
us? Is it to the resistance in

2217
02:08:04,350 --> 02:08:06,150
this country? I gotcha. Thanks.

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02:08:06,780 --> 02:08:08,400
Adam Curry: You're talking over
the best part.

2219
02:08:08,430 --> 02:08:11,430
John C. Dvorak: I'm sorry. I'm
used to listening to a ramble. I

2220
02:08:11,430 --> 02:08:14,490
mean, the Fourth of July is the
fourth of July and it's but if

2221
02:08:14,490 --> 02:08:16,830
she's gonna use the tyrants
analogy, it was because we

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02:08:16,830 --> 02:08:20,700
overthrew the British rule in
our country, which were tyrants

2223
02:08:20,880 --> 02:08:24,660
because they made us pay taxes
to them, and other minor things

2224
02:08:24,660 --> 02:08:29,340
at the time. And but it got we
got fed up. So I don't see the

2225
02:08:29,340 --> 02:08:33,060
difference is that he wants to
put some tanks in this which

2226
02:08:33,060 --> 02:08:34,350
Kennedy did by the way.

2227
02:08:34,380 --> 02:08:37,080
Adam Curry: Listen, listen,
listen, before you go off.

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02:08:38,190 --> 02:08:38,940
Listen

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02:08:38,969 --> 02:08:41,369
Unknown: to teach an avenue. Who
is that message to? It's

2230
02:08:41,369 --> 02:08:43,979
certainly not to tyrants,
because he likes tyrants. He

2231
02:08:43,979 --> 02:08:46,979
loves tyrants. It's not to
Putin, it's not to Kim Jong Un.

2232
02:08:46,979 --> 02:08:50,099
It's not to the Saudis. Is it to
our friends, it turned

2233
02:08:50,099 --> 02:08:52,589
democracies who didn't
particularly like or is it to

2234
02:08:52,589 --> 02:08:56,519
us, is it to the resistance in
this country, I got tanks. I

2235
02:08:56,519 --> 02:09:01,109
have this military Armada. The
message is a threat. It's always

2236
02:09:01,109 --> 02:09:03,779
a threat when you roll out your
military, but it's to whom is

2237
02:09:03,779 --> 02:09:06,539
the threat and I suspect that
the threat is to his fellow

2238
02:09:06,539 --> 02:09:09,419
Americans. And I hate to say
that, but I think that Donald

2239
02:09:09,419 --> 02:09:12,689
Trump styles himself a tyrant,
not a defeater of tyrants.

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02:09:12,720 --> 02:09:15,330
Adam Curry: That's right. It's
the resistance is against the

2241
02:09:15,330 --> 02:09:21,960
American people. He's showing
you, you stupid citizen, that he

2242
02:09:21,960 --> 02:09:24,660
can kill you with his tanks do
what he says.

2243
02:09:26,310 --> 02:09:28,380
John C. Dvorak: Rather, who is
that woman Joy

2244
02:09:28,380 --> 02:09:31,200
Adam Curry: read on MSNBC? Yes,

2245
02:09:31,530 --> 02:09:33,600
John C. Dvorak: she was I
thought that was joy Reid was

2246
02:09:33,600 --> 02:09:34,470
the interviewer

2247
02:09:34,500 --> 02:09:37,680
Adam Curry: no joy Reid was on
the afternoon like real

2248
02:09:37,680 --> 02:09:40,560
primetime. She doesn't get this
was real exposure for her.

2249
02:09:41,190 --> 02:09:43,350
John C. Dvorak: Oh, my goodness
intervene.

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02:09:45,690 --> 02:09:50,220
Adam Curry: Yeah, yes, I think
so.

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02:09:51,150 --> 02:09:52,590
John C. Dvorak: I don't
understand why they put up with

2252
02:09:52,590 --> 02:09:59,160
that. This is this is a to me.
This is an executive problem at

2253
02:09:59,370 --> 02:10:01,110
CNN. and that they would have
her on the

2254
02:10:01,110 --> 02:10:02,400
Adam Curry: air MSNBC.

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02:10:04,170 --> 02:10:06,450
John C. Dvorak: I thought she
was a CNN nurse. She's MSNBC.

2256
02:10:06,480 --> 02:10:10,680
Okay, well, that's then I would
blame Comcast executives for

2257
02:10:10,680 --> 02:10:13,440
pushing this sort of thinking
because it's really harmful to

2258
02:10:13,440 --> 02:10:18,750
the public at large. It's
extremely negative. It's

2259
02:10:18,750 --> 02:10:22,980
diluted, and dangerous. She's a
very dangerous person to be

2260
02:10:23,070 --> 02:10:26,130
because there will always be
somebody that buys into this

2261
02:10:26,130 --> 02:10:31,530
nonsense. As really shouldn't
be, you know, if you could do it

2262
02:10:31,530 --> 02:10:34,560
on the corner says to hand out
pamphlets, do it some other way

2263
02:10:34,560 --> 02:10:39,540
but to be given a free rein on a
broadcasting network, which and

2264
02:10:39,540 --> 02:10:42,630
I would say she does show up on
NBC and NBC is

2265
02:10:42,630 --> 02:10:45,900
Adam Curry: not a single person
on that panel said, Yeah, hold

2266
02:10:45,900 --> 02:10:49,560
on a second. Taking that a
little bit. Far. Perhaps they

2267
02:10:49,560 --> 02:10:56,790
want. Oh, yeah. Yeah, right on.
Right on sister you nailed it.

2268
02:10:56,970 --> 02:11:00,930
We know what's going on. Orange
Man, bad. Orange Man. Bad. But

2269
02:11:00,930 --> 02:11:03,870
the she's not the craziest
person I caught this week. The

2270
02:11:03,870 --> 02:11:07,020
craziest has got to be our good
old hat wearing friend.

2271
02:11:07,560 --> 02:11:12,210
Representative, Frederica
Wilson. Of think she's Florida

2272
02:11:12,240 --> 02:11:14,550
congresswoman from Florida.
She's the one with the cowboy

2273
02:11:14,550 --> 02:11:22,560
hats with the Bejeweled. cowboy
hats. Yeah, yeah. So apparently,

2274
02:11:22,590 --> 02:11:28,710
she's pissed that people are
making fun of representatives on

2275
02:11:28,710 --> 02:11:32,640
Twitter and social media. And
she not only is outraged, but

2276
02:11:32,640 --> 02:11:33,570
she has a plan.

2277
02:11:33,599 --> 02:11:39,929
Unknown: Those people who are
online making fun of members of

2278
02:11:39,929 --> 02:11:45,539
Congress are a disgrace. And
there's no need for anyone to

2279
02:11:45,539 --> 02:11:50,189
think that is unacceptable.
We're gonna shut them down and

2280
02:11:50,189 --> 02:11:52,139
work with whoever it is the
shutdown,

2281
02:11:52,980 --> 02:11:54,060
Adam Curry: just gonna stop
here.

2282
02:11:55,020 --> 02:11:57,330
John C. Dvorak: Not a lot of
people her life second. Now you

2283
02:11:57,330 --> 02:12:01,620
condemned me for this some time
ago. And I'm gonna call you out

2284
02:12:01,620 --> 02:12:06,360
on this. You condemn me because
the speed of my clips was off by

2285
02:12:06,360 --> 02:12:10,260
like 10% or something. The speed
on this clip is off at least

2286
02:12:10,260 --> 02:12:14,190
30%. And it should you should
just pull it. It's not right.

2287
02:12:14,220 --> 02:12:17,100
There's nobody, it's not
possible to sound like this.

2288
02:12:17,130 --> 02:12:17,640
That is

2289
02:12:17,640 --> 02:12:20,790
Adam Curry: her voice screwed
up. That is her voice that is

2290
02:12:20,790 --> 02:12:25,170
Frederica Wilson. That is her
voice. And as as much as you

2291
02:12:25,170 --> 02:12:29,880
despise the voice or think it's
phony, a deep fake audio. She is

2292
02:12:29,910 --> 02:12:33,570
actually saying here that when
people make fun of

2293
02:12:33,570 --> 02:12:37,140
representatives in Congress,
they as in she and the

2294
02:12:37,140 --> 02:12:40,920
representatives will work with
whomever they want need to to

2295
02:12:40,920 --> 02:12:45,150
shut them down. Now as much as I
think the branding conversation

2296
02:12:45,150 --> 02:12:48,300
we had on the conversation we
had on the last show was

2297
02:12:48,300 --> 02:12:52,800
important and adjust one. This
is the shit that has this. This

2298
02:12:52,830 --> 02:12:58,020
is inquiry worthy. She's
literally saying he or she will

2299
02:12:58,470 --> 02:13:02,760
collude with commercial
companies to have people speech

2300
02:13:02,760 --> 02:13:08,010
shut down. Just because they're
making fun of people in

2301
02:13:08,010 --> 02:13:12,330
Congress, this, although funny
to listen to her nutty voice,

2302
02:13:12,330 --> 02:13:15,180
and I'm gonna play the whole
clip. It's only 30 seconds. This

2303
02:13:15,210 --> 02:13:17,940
is actually she should be thrown
out.

2304
02:13:18,269 --> 02:13:24,149
Unknown: People who are online
making fun of members of

2305
02:13:24,149 --> 02:13:29,759
Congress are a disgrace. And
there's no need for anyone to

2306
02:13:29,759 --> 02:13:33,899
think that is unacceptable.
We're going to shut them down

2307
02:13:34,109 --> 02:13:37,619
and work with whoever it is the
shutdown and they should be

2308
02:13:37,619 --> 02:13:44,129
prosecuted who cannot intimidate
members of Congress not pregnant

2309
02:13:44,129 --> 02:13:47,519
members of Congress it is
against the law. And this is

2310
02:13:47,519 --> 02:13:56,669
shame in this United States of
America what do you say to that?

2311
02:13:57,720 --> 02:14:00,150
John C. Dvorak: Miami Miami Dade
County?

2312
02:14:01,320 --> 02:14:05,400
Adam Curry: Is that what you're
where she's from? Yep. And

2313
02:14:05,400 --> 02:14:06,180
that's it. Thank

2314
02:14:06,180 --> 02:14:09,240
John C. Dvorak: you Miami,
Florida for giving us this woman

2315
02:14:09,570 --> 02:14:14,370
as your representative please
your representative all you

2316
02:14:14,370 --> 02:14:16,650
sharp operators there in Miami.

2317
02:14:17,760 --> 02:14:20,400
Adam Curry: It's just I love how
she says somebody like

2318
02:14:20,400 --> 02:14:23,670
John C. Dvorak: this even get in
office with that voice, let

2319
02:14:23,670 --> 02:14:27,540
alone that stupid hat. And the
fact that she's you know an

2320
02:14:27,540 --> 02:14:28,260
idiot.

2321
02:14:28,860 --> 02:14:31,140
Adam Curry: I think she needs to
be hauled before some kind of

2322
02:14:31,140 --> 02:14:34,950
commission because she literally
talked about deep platforming

2323
02:14:34,950 --> 02:14:40,080
people as a political operative
as a representative as a member

2324
02:14:40,110 --> 02:14:44,220
of the government. That is
actually censorship that is

2325
02:14:44,220 --> 02:14:47,430
actually illegal. Where am I way
off base?

2326
02:14:48,420 --> 02:14:50,940
John C. Dvorak: I know I'm five
blind ball for Screw it. That

2327
02:14:50,940 --> 02:14:52,230
Adam Curry: hat should be
illegal.

2328
02:14:52,950 --> 02:14:55,740
Unknown: I'm gonna show my
school by donating to no agenda.

2329
02:14:55,800 --> 02:14:58,950
Imagine all the people who could
do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun.

2330
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:08,280
John C. Dvorak: Okay and we do
have a few people have thanked

2331
02:15:08,280 --> 02:15:14,250
for show 1152 which is a magic
number somehow someone's pointed

2332
02:15:14,250 --> 02:15:16,620
that out and I got some buddies
that was trying to do the math

2333
02:15:16,620 --> 02:15:19,170
so they couldn't do it. But
let's start off with the

2334
02:15:19,200 --> 02:15:25,230
thanking Maxine Waters gravel is
now up to this time this

2335
02:15:25,230 --> 02:15:29,220
donation was 145. So they're
making a bum's rush for

2336
02:15:29,220 --> 02:15:30,030
knighthood for the

2337
02:15:30,030 --> 02:15:33,660
Adam Curry: Greiss nice and by
the way, Maxine Waters gravel is

2338
02:15:33,660 --> 02:15:38,700
a dual citizen gravel. So that
is $71 for being half

2339
02:15:38,700 --> 02:15:43,080
Scandinavian. Apologies that
Maxine Waters gravel says for

2340
02:15:43,080 --> 02:15:47,250
burning down the White House and
just also apologies for Justin

2341
02:15:47,250 --> 02:15:52,860
Bieber and Trudeau and $74 for
being half Merkin no apologies

2342
02:15:52,860 --> 02:15:55,470
ever for anything. Gravel on

2343
02:15:56,370 --> 02:15:59,490
John C. Dvorak: Okay, so so far
we have I'm going to start

2344
02:15:59,490 --> 02:16:03,630
Jake's doing it because these
are the offbeat donors we have

2345
02:16:03,960 --> 02:16:09,780
one 174 from earlier and then we
have one and one so we have two

2346
02:16:09,780 --> 02:16:12,780
to one. Okay, you can't we'll
get down to the nitty gritty

2347
02:16:12,780 --> 02:16:17,790
whenever we get to the real
donations. Jeffery Jax Parts

2348
02:16:17,790 --> 02:16:24,810
Unknown $115.20 Happy Fourth of
July you get nothing there for

2349
02:16:25,170 --> 02:16:30,810
birthday or anything. John Robin
$100 Darren O'Neal, big boys

2350
02:16:30,810 --> 02:16:31,260
Darren.

2351
02:16:32,070 --> 02:16:35,070
Adam Curry: Boomer. Boomer
Boomer 200 ollars Darren

2352
02:16:35,400 --> 02:16:42,960
John C. Dvorak: Baker $100 Baron
ladder kin $100. Andre hos in

2353
02:16:42,960 --> 02:16:43,740
San Diego.

2354
02:16:44,340 --> 02:16:47,940
Adam Curry: Does he have the
Haas Haas racing team? Pass Haas

2355
02:16:47,940 --> 02:16:50,850
John C. Dvorak: has has or the
Haas family that owns Levi's. I

2356
02:16:50,850 --> 02:16:56,430
don't know. Either one. He says
here's a hundo for your efforts

2357
02:16:56,430 --> 02:17:01,260
against political BS and M five
M mind control. I am so grateful

2358
02:17:01,260 --> 02:17:04,410
that I found your podcast
roughly 10 years ago when I was

2359
02:17:04,410 --> 02:17:08,760
just a kid in high school. I
even converted my sister Nina

2360
02:17:08,760 --> 02:17:12,240
and my wife Karen into regular
listeners

2361
02:17:12,420 --> 02:17:16,830
Adam Curry: nice when he says
hundo that reminds me of Rick

2362
02:17:16,830 --> 02:17:20,340
Dees. You remember Rick knees
Rick meals in the morning? In

2363
02:17:20,340 --> 02:17:22,740
the morning every buck or
whatever was Misko duck Rick

2364
02:17:22,740 --> 02:17:27,240
mate Well, Rick these are very
famous morning radio disc jockey

2365
02:17:27,240 --> 02:17:31,650
and he did a parody song or a
funny song Disco Duck in the

2366
02:17:31,650 --> 02:17:38,280
70s. But he was so rich that it
probably still is. If someone

2367
02:17:38,280 --> 02:17:41,430
got him coffee, he'd be like,
Thanks, man. Here's a hundo he

2368
02:17:41,430 --> 02:17:45,240
could kill you gay people a it
was a Rick knees hundo and he

2369
02:17:45,240 --> 02:17:48,660
gave him 100 bucks. Hey, how you
doing? Rick? hundo

2370
02:17:49,109 --> 02:17:51,209
John C. Dvorak: that's a bit
that dad's that's like boss you

2371
02:17:51,209 --> 02:17:55,619
want? Yeah. That's the job I
want. He wants he has some

2372
02:17:55,619 --> 02:17:58,349
jiggler because we put a couple
of them with a Karma at the end.

2373
02:17:58,349 --> 02:18:01,379
And if you can get a pew pew
ready. Oh, that would be great.

2374
02:18:01,409 --> 02:18:01,649
Oh, I'm

2375
02:18:01,650 --> 02:18:05,130
Adam Curry: sorry. What we're
looking for? I'm gonna see you

2376
02:18:05,130 --> 02:18:07,230
John C. Dvorak: at the end at
the end of whoever's out here.

2377
02:18:07,500 --> 02:18:12,360
All right, go onward. So right
here, I'm gonna mention this

2378
02:18:12,360 --> 02:18:15,630
video. We don't do jingle
requests at this level. But the

2379
02:18:15,630 --> 02:18:18,870
jingle requests for alternative
universe is not a jingle and you

2380
02:18:18,870 --> 02:18:25,080
can't request it. G L Rockwell
at 841 Sir herb lamb Earl of

2381
02:18:25,080 --> 02:18:31,380
Georgia 808. A boom for
America's birthday. He writes.

2382
02:18:31,530 --> 02:18:35,010
Nice. Happy Independence Day.
Steven Hightower. Now here we

2383
02:18:35,010 --> 02:18:40,470
go. 74 and it is that counselors
are 74 Anonymous 74 And these

2384
02:18:40,470 --> 02:18:43,230
are all 70 fours these are the
74 guys and as

2385
02:18:43,230 --> 02:18:48,540
Adam Curry: Steven is the SIR
Tory Alta Burnett of slow Noma

2386
02:18:48,540 --> 02:18:50,070
and Glen Ellyn

2387
02:18:51,180 --> 02:18:54,450
John C. Dvorak: low Noma
anonymous Eric Slayer and

2388
02:18:54,450 --> 02:18:59,760
Chicago with her sir Hey, moose.
Parts Unknown Anthony Rodriguez

2389
02:18:59,760 --> 02:19:05,910
in Tucson Arizona. Jim garba.
Zeus ski I'm guessing Joseph

2390
02:19:05,910 --> 02:19:13,650
Willis James more sir up. Kitty
or syrup. Sir Eric VM Baron of

2391
02:19:13,650 --> 02:19:20,280
the valley in Van Nuys, sir
Jeffro of the rock wall. Joel

2392
02:19:20,280 --> 02:19:26,010
Blazic in Reno, sir Gator of the
North Texas swamps. Cassidy

2393
02:19:26,040 --> 02:19:30,930
Eastwood in Oklahoma City,
Christian Moreno in Costa Mesa.

2394
02:19:31,590 --> 02:19:35,820
John de carne in Alpharetta,
Georgia Can you write while I'm

2395
02:19:35,820 --> 02:19:38,520
reading these? Can you do a head
count? So I have a number.

2396
02:19:38,790 --> 02:19:41,040
Adam Curry: Well, now all of a
sudden I'm in charge of this.

2397
02:19:41,400 --> 02:19:41,640
No, I

2398
02:19:41,640 --> 02:19:44,760
John C. Dvorak: just read just
counted numbers of 70 fours, sir

2399
02:19:44,760 --> 02:19:49,110
Matthew Blacknight of the ice
giants in San Diego. I mean, I

2400
02:19:49,110 --> 02:19:52,170
can do it, but then I'd be doing
it at the end. Brian Warner and

2401
02:19:52,170 --> 02:19:56,730
Bell Creek, Sir Thomas Nussbaum,
who should get a call out a

2402
02:19:56,730 --> 02:20:01,680
noose bomb. In Virginia Beach,
Virginia, he said To the Grand

2403
02:20:01,680 --> 02:20:03,480
Duke. Yes Sir John

2404
02:20:04,710 --> 02:20:09,210
Unknown: all worked for

2405
02:20:11,040 --> 02:20:14,850
John C. Dvorak: John Helmer in
Shawnee, Kansas and Sir John

2406
02:20:14,850 --> 02:20:19,500
Knight and St. Patrick. Patron
Saint of engineers. With Jay

2407
02:20:19,500 --> 02:20:24,810
Paul Miss showed the patron
saint is from Heber springs in

2408
02:20:24,840 --> 02:20:29,310
Palma showed is from Parts
Unknown. That's our total of 74

2409
02:20:29,310 --> 02:20:37,320
votes 2222 On top of two, so
that's 24 total. Meanwhile, in

2410
02:20:37,320 --> 02:20:44,520
between here we got Jonathan
Riesman 7333 Christopher Hora

2411
02:20:44,550 --> 02:20:50,940
Barak, in Pickering, Ontario,
Canada with 71 and that would be

2412
02:20:50,940 --> 02:20:55,470
our first 71 donor to the bit
license the day itself but it's

2413
02:20:55,470 --> 02:20:58,350
past but it's a July one
donation. Okay, so now we got

2414
02:20:58,350 --> 02:21:02,970
the Canadians coming in. Here
they come. So Vantrue del, in

2415
02:21:02,970 --> 02:21:07,230
Montreal. So Tristan banning in
Toronto, and that's the end.

2416
02:21:08,730 --> 02:21:11,370
Adam Curry: Let's see, how do we
do Canada want?

2417
02:21:11,760 --> 02:21:12,900
John C. Dvorak: 24 to four.

2418
02:21:13,020 --> 02:21:16,200
Adam Curry: There's no pride,
man. They just got no pride. You

2419
02:21:16,200 --> 02:21:19,080
know what they do have shits
Creek?

2420
02:21:20,610 --> 02:21:22,230
Unknown: About shit. Have you
ever seen this

2421
02:21:22,260 --> 02:21:24,570
John C. Dvorak: show? Yeah. So
I've just started

2422
02:21:25,620 --> 02:21:29,100
Adam Curry: that I we just
finished season five. The last

2423
02:21:29,100 --> 02:21:29,490
one

2424
02:21:29,610 --> 02:21:31,170
John C. Dvorak: last been
washing it all along.

2425
02:21:31,200 --> 02:21:33,750
Unknown: I love that show is a
very funny

2426
02:21:33,750 --> 02:21:34,200
John C. Dvorak: show.

2427
02:21:34,380 --> 02:21:36,780
Adam Curry: And if you didn't
tell me, I wouldn't have known

2428
02:21:36,780 --> 02:21:41,190
it was Scandinavian. It's kind
of uncut. nadian. Good.

2429
02:21:42,780 --> 02:21:46,350
John C. Dvorak: Well, you got
levy gene Levy, who's you know,

2430
02:21:46,350 --> 02:21:48,630
part of the Second City true bio
Toronto,

2431
02:21:48,660 --> 02:21:49,500
Adam Curry: Chris Elliott.

2432
02:21:49,800 --> 02:21:51,360
John C. Dvorak: And Chris
Elliott, who's you know, Bob

2433
02:21:51,360 --> 02:21:56,520
Bailey is someone who's dry, you
know, the dry humor side of the

2434
02:21:56,520 --> 02:21:59,580
business. And then you have
Katherine Harris, also from

2435
02:21:59,580 --> 02:22:02,880
Toronto, and then the girl and
the young guys and O'Hara.

2436
02:22:02,910 --> 02:22:06,570
Catherine O'Hara. Catherine
O'Hara, I'm sorry. Yeah. And I

2437
02:22:06,570 --> 02:22:10,410
think this mostly Canadian Janet
thing. It's just a classic kind

2438
02:22:10,410 --> 02:22:10,620
of

2439
02:22:10,710 --> 02:22:13,500
Adam Curry: great show. It's
produced by the CBC underlined

2440
02:22:13,500 --> 02:22:14,430
John C. Dvorak: force. Yes.

2441
02:22:14,910 --> 02:22:17,580
Adam Curry: Yes. It's completely
No, I think it's over the

2442
02:22:17,580 --> 02:22:21,240
borderline farce. It's it's
fantastic. Great show. So thank

2443
02:22:21,240 --> 02:22:24,090
you for that Canada. Too bad you
don't love your country.

2444
02:22:27,030 --> 02:22:28,530
John C. Dvorak: We're still part
of the Commonwealth.

2445
02:22:28,860 --> 02:22:30,750
Adam Curry: Yes, that's true.
That's true.

2446
02:22:32,040 --> 02:22:36,690
John C. Dvorak: So we you know,
Hail to the Queen. Sonya pain

2447
02:22:36,690 --> 02:22:40,290
comes in at 6969 Paragon,
Indiana sir got Nate from

2448
02:22:40,290 --> 02:22:47,070
Sebastopol. 6969 Matthew Scott
in Willard, Missouri 5646. He's

2449
02:22:47,070 --> 02:22:48,150
got an mp3 file

2450
02:22:48,180 --> 02:22:51,810
Adam Curry: that says that is an
interesting donation. It's a

2451
02:22:51,810 --> 02:22:59,280
five G 4g donation. 5646
remember? I liked that the 5646

2452
02:22:59,280 --> 02:23:02,580
rock against 5g 4g donation.
Good. Good. Good.

2453
02:23:03,120 --> 02:23:06,060
John C. Dvorak: I'm liking it.
Sir Tom dari in DeForest,

2454
02:23:06,060 --> 02:23:11,160
Wisconsin 5510 That will Nick
goes on the dime Sarah blaze in

2455
02:23:11,160 --> 02:23:17,940
Squamish BC 25. can count her as
a Canadian

2456
02:23:17,970 --> 02:23:21,270
Adam Curry: I couldn't even add
six bucks for her own country.

2457
02:23:21,360 --> 02:23:25,620
So I'm just kidding.
Scandinavians.

2458
02:23:25,980 --> 02:23:28,470
John C. Dvorak: We love you.
Yeah. France, especially you

2459
02:23:28,470 --> 02:23:33,510
Albertans Francisco to hate the
D 432.

2460
02:23:33,539 --> 02:23:36,449
Adam Curry: Oh, hold on. Hold on
one second. Sarah Blace. Let me

2461
02:23:36,449 --> 02:23:38,879
just make sure that made it
through to the birthday list. I

2462
02:23:38,879 --> 02:23:42,329
see. That her who says she's got
a birthday there.

2463
02:23:43,350 --> 02:23:45,690
John C. Dvorak: Today July 4 is
his Brianna. Nathan

2464
02:23:45,690 --> 02:23:47,100
Rothenberger. I don't think it
did.

2465
02:23:48,060 --> 02:23:53,400
Adam Curry: Okay, Nathan
Rothenberger. From if it was it

2466
02:23:53,400 --> 02:23:53,760
from

2467
02:23:54,930 --> 02:23:58,140
John C. Dvorak: Shara from
Sarah. Just Sarah's good, Sarah.

2468
02:23:58,590 --> 02:24:00,150
He knows who she is. Okay.

2469
02:24:00,240 --> 02:24:02,430
Adam Curry: Yeah, so yeah, I'm
glad I caught that. Yeah, I'm

2470
02:24:02,460 --> 02:24:05,940
John C. Dvorak: glad you did to
Francisco to hate fit for 30

2471
02:24:05,940 --> 02:24:12,420
Dudes, Sean. Luca chuck to D
240. Jeremy Cartwright Rockford,

2472
02:24:12,420 --> 02:24:15,570
Illinois. 50 These are following
donors and 50 wraps us up.

2473
02:24:15,990 --> 02:24:21,540
Jeremy Cartwright, Matthew yet
Jenna Ziskin Chicago Villa rial

2474
02:24:21,540 --> 02:24:28,440
Villa rial. My favorite name in
Mercedes Texas. Bart Groot

2475
02:24:28,440 --> 02:24:30,240
Carrick in Heron

2476
02:24:30,390 --> 02:24:33,780
Adam Curry: Very good. Bart's
throat character in Harlan

2477
02:24:34,200 --> 02:24:42,720
John C. Dvorak: Harlan serene
cut Tanya cut Tanya loves the

2478
02:24:42,720 --> 02:24:47,520
show. Thank you for telling it
like it is actually what she's

2479
02:24:47,520 --> 02:24:50,460
thinking we're telling it like
it is with knowledge we can see

2480
02:24:50,460 --> 02:24:53,520
all sides and make intelligence
decision that intelligent

2481
02:24:53,520 --> 02:24:55,170
decisions you guys rock.

2482
02:24:55,200 --> 02:24:57,090
Adam Curry: That's right. Wait
to see my wedding pictures of me

2483
02:24:57,090 --> 02:24:58,920
dancing. You see how much I rock

2484
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:02,100
John C. Dvorak: do you do when
you don't see your dancing but

2485
02:25:02,220 --> 02:25:05,940
when you dance, do you, you have
both thumbs in the air and you

2486
02:25:05,940 --> 02:25:08,580
go and you pump your thumbs up
in the air and then just kind of

2487
02:25:08,580 --> 02:25:09,600
kick randomly.

2488
02:25:09,630 --> 02:25:14,100
Adam Curry: There is one actual
shot of me dancing and I have my

2489
02:25:14,100 --> 02:25:17,190
fists out there and one thumb in
the air. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah,

2490
02:25:17,220 --> 02:25:19,470
it's incorrect. It's super
embarrassing.

2491
02:25:19,530 --> 02:25:22,980
John C. Dvorak: Elaine Bennis,
this used to dance like that on

2492
02:25:22,980 --> 02:25:27,450
the Seinfeld show. Some people
get Yeah, I remember that.

2493
02:25:27,840 --> 02:25:34,440
Robert dry Kosan Esmerelda Gak
and rip on Ripon, Wisconsin.

2494
02:25:34,890 --> 02:25:41,040
Michael Janeski and lindora
Pennsylvania Bradley leaden

2495
02:25:41,040 --> 02:25:46,500
Parts Unknown Scott e night in
lost wages. Nevada. Jason deluzy

2496
02:25:46,500 --> 02:25:52,200
Oh, and Chatswood Pennsylvania.
I think sir. And I Ichi Kanagawa

2497
02:25:52,200 --> 02:25:56,220
in San Francisco and thank all
these folks are helping us get

2498
02:25:56,340 --> 02:26:00,810
show 1152 out the door. It was
your help that we can do this.

2499
02:26:00,810 --> 02:26:01,770
Thank you very much.

2500
02:26:03,690 --> 02:26:06,600
Adam Curry: Did you know that
during this program, the largest

2501
02:26:06,630 --> 02:26:11,790
earthquake in decades hit
Southern California 6.6 that's

2502
02:26:11,790 --> 02:26:15,600
been expected 6.4 You didn't
Well Southern California so you

2503
02:26:15,600 --> 02:26:16,980
wouldn't feel anything? No,

2504
02:26:16,980 --> 02:26:17,730
John C. Dvorak: you wouldn't
feel it.

2505
02:26:18,360 --> 02:26:21,390
Adam Curry: Let me see. 10:33am
quake was centered in the

2506
02:26:21,390 --> 02:26:27,060
Sierras Searles Valley. About
100 miles from Los Angeles

2507
02:26:28,170 --> 02:26:30,630
John C. Dvorak: will be safe
Yeah,

2508
02:26:30,840 --> 02:26:34,950
Adam Curry: make sure you're
checking on Facebook is do a

2509
02:26:34,950 --> 02:26:38,730
safe check ins everybody knows
well yeah, please be safe, I

2510
02:26:38,730 --> 02:26:42,150
suppose is what scale what's

2511
02:26:42,690 --> 02:26:44,100
John C. Dvorak: make any
difference anymore with that

2512
02:26:44,100 --> 02:26:48,330
number is because this is all
Daikon the Richter scale out was

2513
02:26:48,330 --> 02:26:52,380
an objective recording and now
it's an object so it was an

2514
02:26:52,380 --> 02:26:56,220
objective recording now it's all
subjective. You you type in you

2515
02:26:56,220 --> 02:26:58,590
go to the USGS site and tell
them what you felt

2516
02:26:58,650 --> 02:27:01,590
Adam Curry: Yeah, I just I like
to count casualties

2517
02:27:02,820 --> 02:27:05,220
John C. Dvorak: yeah that's how
that's that's the California

2518
02:27:05,220 --> 02:27:06,330
keeping them pretty low

2519
02:27:06,660 --> 02:27:08,820
Adam Curry: if you got no
casualties is great earthquake.

2520
02:27:09,539 --> 02:27:11,609
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, it's
really fun for the writers it's

2521
02:27:11,609 --> 02:27:12,569
for the cleanup.

2522
02:27:13,620 --> 02:27:17,430
Adam Curry: Thank you to all who
supported the show today. It

2523
02:27:17,460 --> 02:27:20,940
makes us super happy because
here we are. It is supposed to I

2524
02:27:20,940 --> 02:27:25,020
was I was drinking my coffee out
back doing the about 530 This

2525
02:27:25,020 --> 02:27:27,750
morning the show prep already I
could hear the neighbors are

2526
02:27:27,750 --> 02:27:30,630
getting ready for Fourth of July
the getting stuff out there but

2527
02:27:30,630 --> 02:27:33,120
the time I got my coffee before
we started the show that got the

2528
02:27:33,120 --> 02:27:39,090
music playing Yeah, sir Jean
texted me yesterday. Hey, I was

2529
02:27:39,090 --> 02:27:42,720
going to be out of town but now
I'm in town so hey, what do you

2530
02:27:42,720 --> 02:27:46,080
guys do it for Fourth of July so
well we're all working Thank you

2531
02:27:46,080 --> 02:27:50,340
very much I started 530 To be up
around the same time you know

2532
02:27:50,340 --> 02:27:52,770
after all that around for this
afternoon I'm gonna have a

2533
02:27:52,770 --> 02:27:54,750
burger watch some TV and go to
sleep

2534
02:27:55,950 --> 02:27:58,920
John C. Dvorak: no you're not
yes I am. What else are we gonna

2535
02:27:58,920 --> 02:28:00,420
do Jean coming over

2536
02:28:04,050 --> 02:28:06,360
Adam Curry: I say well he No He
nailed that he said well in for

2537
02:28:06,360 --> 02:28:09,750
a free meal. I'll go hang out
with non boring friends so

2538
02:28:09,750 --> 02:28:13,020
that's exactly why we're totally
boring on Fourth of July we work

2539
02:28:13,650 --> 02:28:15,660
someone's got to keep this great
country rolling

2540
02:28:15,690 --> 02:28:17,430
John C. Dvorak: what he wanted
to come over in the morning

2541
02:28:18,900 --> 02:28:20,970
you'd want to come over your
good did fireworks

2542
02:28:20,970 --> 02:28:24,270
Adam Curry: show about you but
I'm tired after the show.

2543
02:28:25,980 --> 02:28:29,340
John C. Dvorak: Well here we
have fireworks everywhere and we

2544
02:28:29,340 --> 02:28:31,590
got a lot of fires most of
mediocre and a lot of them in

2545
02:28:31,590 --> 02:28:35,130
the fog but the best fireworks
display generally speaking it's

2546
02:28:35,130 --> 02:28:38,580
not the greatest anywhere but
it's a really good Fourth of

2547
02:28:38,580 --> 02:28:41,970
July fireworks show is in
Richmond in over the San

2548
02:28:41,970 --> 02:28:47,970
Francisco Bay yesterday. There's
no fog and what they did it last

2549
02:28:47,970 --> 02:28:52,860
night. It's a nice show. It's
not the most expensive but it's

2550
02:28:52,860 --> 02:28:55,800
a very nice show and well
thought out with a good finale

2551
02:28:55,920 --> 02:28:58,470
and there was enough of a breeze
because you've probably had with

2552
02:28:58,470 --> 02:29:01,950
firework shows is that it round
here usually there's no breeze

2553
02:29:01,950 --> 02:29:05,550
on fourth and the smoke starts
to accumulate so as all the

2554
02:29:05,550 --> 02:29:09,570
fireworks go into the same exact
spot, it just just hid behind

2555
02:29:09,570 --> 02:29:13,170
all the smoke from the previous
explosion. But no it was moving

2556
02:29:13,170 --> 02:29:15,240
him out. So you get to see
everything as clean as a

2557
02:29:15,240 --> 02:29:23,850
whistle. And that was yesterday.
Today it'll be lousy now

2558
02:29:24,480 --> 02:29:26,940
Adam Curry: that's that's the
peerage committee John they want

2559
02:29:26,940 --> 02:29:30,210
me to do the day meetings and
the meetings and and the title

2560
02:29:30,210 --> 02:29:32,970
changes and everything. So I
might as well comply.

2561
02:29:33,270 --> 02:29:35,940
John C. Dvorak: That was gonna
go on and on about fireworks.

2562
02:29:35,970 --> 02:29:38,460
Adam Curry: That's right. Thank
you very much. Also everyone who

2563
02:29:38,460 --> 02:29:41,670
came in under $50. You're
supporting the value for value

2564
02:29:41,670 --> 02:29:44,100
network in a way that works
incredibly well for us with

2565
02:29:44,100 --> 02:29:47,100
value but thank you to everybody
who supports the show in any way

2566
02:29:47,100 --> 02:29:50,520
you do. And for financial
support, which we do need

2567
02:29:50,550 --> 02:29:56,430
another show on Sunday. Please
go to full red.org/and A couple

2568
02:29:56,430 --> 02:30:01,320
of comments as requested jobs,
jobs, jobs. To end jobs Let's

2569
02:30:01,320 --> 02:30:02,580
vote for jobs.

2570
02:30:04,800 --> 02:30:06,450
Unknown: You've got karma

2571
02:30:07,980 --> 02:30:11,460
Adam Curry: and then I need a
pew pew with that I guess. There

2572
02:30:11,460 --> 02:30:13,620
we go. Pew pew pew pew pew pew

2573
02:30:20,310 --> 02:30:24,210
take a look at the birthdays.
Today is July 4 2019. Nathan

2574
02:30:24,210 --> 02:30:29,010
Rothenberger. Sara says Happy
Birthday to you. July 4 is your

2575
02:30:29,010 --> 02:30:32,580
birthday and she says I love you
forever and always baby. May you

2576
02:30:32,580 --> 02:30:36,480
be blessed today. Then we have
Sonya Payne's is Happy Birthday

2577
02:30:36,480 --> 02:30:41,190
to her smokin hot husband Nathan
Kane of Paragon, Indiana, and

2578
02:30:41,190 --> 02:30:44,970
Toby Langford will turn 47 On
the sixth of July and finally

2579
02:30:44,970 --> 02:30:48,780
Andrew German will be
celebrating on July 7, seven,

2580
02:30:48,780 --> 02:30:51,420
seven happy birthday from
everybody here the best podcast

2581
02:30:51,420 --> 02:30:56,760
in the universe. We've got our
meetups. We got a nice list of

2582
02:30:56,760 --> 02:31:01,980
them today. Meetup taking place
in Seattle and Washington DC go

2583
02:31:01,980 --> 02:31:06,510
to no agenda meetups.com to find
out exactly where these will be

2584
02:31:06,510 --> 02:31:11,040
taking place tomorrow, the fifth
in Lisbon. That is in Portugal,

2585
02:31:11,070 --> 02:31:15,510
and I'd love to This is Lady
Lisboa who's organizing that so

2586
02:31:15,510 --> 02:31:18,870
an actual Dame you get to meet
her. July 6 Utrecht the

2587
02:31:18,870 --> 02:31:22,530
Netherlands July 9 in Knoxville,
Tennessee, the 11th Charleston,

2588
02:31:22,530 --> 02:31:27,600
South Carolina, July 13. In
Atlanta, then we have the 19th

2589
02:31:27,600 --> 02:31:32,760
Colorado Springs, Colorado. July
28, southwest London comes back

2590
02:31:32,760 --> 02:31:36,690
and congregate. Also, there's a
brand new meetup listed

2591
02:31:36,690 --> 02:31:40,800
Chicagoland, Chicagoland meetup
and want to make sure that

2592
02:31:40,800 --> 02:31:44,520
people are aware of that one I'm
going to I wish we could do that

2593
02:31:44,520 --> 02:31:47,700
one. I'm not sure we can go on
July 20 be great to get the

2594
02:31:47,700 --> 02:31:52,050
Chicago, the 26 St. Louis, also
Portland, Oregon, then on the

2595
02:31:52,050 --> 02:31:56,370
27th Buffalo, New York and
Frisco, Texas, and on July 28,

2596
02:31:56,370 --> 02:31:59,460
that's what we have on the list
so far will be central Florida.

2597
02:31:59,730 --> 02:32:04,080
And thank you everybody who set
these up, go to no agenda

2598
02:32:04,080 --> 02:32:07,620
meetup.com Find out if there's a
meetup near you. It's just this

2599
02:32:07,620 --> 02:32:10,830
is something that is incredibly
healthy to do. You can meet

2600
02:32:10,830 --> 02:32:14,100
people who are maybe not always
like minded, but they're not

2601
02:32:14,100 --> 02:32:16,560
going to be triggered and freak
out because everyone just has

2602
02:32:16,560 --> 02:32:20,910
good conversation. And yeah,
it's kind of like John like you

2603
02:32:20,910 --> 02:32:23,610
and I 11 years together. We
never had a fight it worked even

2604
02:32:23,610 --> 02:32:27,570
though we differ from opinion
from time to time. No agenda

2605
02:32:27,600 --> 02:32:31,410
meetups.com. And let me say I do
this in the right order, because

2606
02:32:31,410 --> 02:32:37,020
we do have a title change today,
which will be a brand new night

2607
02:32:37,050 --> 02:32:42,450
going to Baron. So this is the
unlighted Baron but first let's

2608
02:32:42,450 --> 02:32:46,650
get our blades out here. There
you go. That's your fourth.

2609
02:32:46,800 --> 02:32:50,910
That's your Fourth of July
blade. are you just happy to see

2610
02:32:50,910 --> 02:32:51,150
me?

2611
02:32:51,360 --> 02:32:52,680
John C. Dvorak: It's red, white
and blue.

2612
02:32:54,210 --> 02:32:57,120
Adam Curry: Up on the stage here
please. Terry Keller, Curt James

2613
02:32:57,150 --> 02:33:00,690
Andrew German and here goes
through Nevada. Looks like we

2614
02:33:00,690 --> 02:33:03,480
all got dudes here once again.
So gentlemen, you are about to

2615
02:33:03,480 --> 02:33:06,210
join the illustrious club with
the no agenda Knights and Dames

2616
02:33:06,390 --> 02:33:09,420
and I'm hereby proud to
pronounce the KC sir under the

2617
02:33:09,420 --> 02:33:13,710
radar. Sir Vincent drilling man
of Greenbrier Woods Sir Andrew

2618
02:33:13,710 --> 02:33:17,460
of the hickory flat protector of
small horses and Sir here called

2619
02:33:17,460 --> 02:33:20,910
Studebaker for you we have
hookers and blow rent boys and

2620
02:33:20,910 --> 02:33:23,880
Chardonnay hold on to new and
keep killing it. We got to chill

2621
02:33:23,880 --> 02:33:27,720
and polish potato vodka trophies
entire smoke cowgirls and coffin

2622
02:33:27,720 --> 02:33:30,420
bars, fucking middle of bong
hits and bourbon sparkling cider

2623
02:33:30,420 --> 02:33:32,910
Ness for ginger ale and
durables. Breast milk and

2624
02:33:32,910 --> 02:33:37,290
pablum, and mutton and Mead.
It's a favorite and it is all

2625
02:33:37,290 --> 02:33:41,970
yours all you have to do is go
to no agenda nation.com/rings

2626
02:33:42,270 --> 02:33:44,880
please fill out the information
get that off to Eric so we can

2627
02:33:44,880 --> 02:33:48,450
get you the right size, get your
address etc your postal deets

2628
02:33:48,780 --> 02:33:51,540
and once you have I went short
in receipt of your ring your

2629
02:33:51,540 --> 02:33:55,020
sealing wax and your official
certificate. Please tweet out

2630
02:33:55,020 --> 02:33:58,950
and and toot toot if you're on
the mastodon Federation, tweet

2631
02:33:58,950 --> 02:34:04,530
and shoot pictures of your pride
of being a no agenda. Night.

2632
02:34:12,360 --> 02:34:17,850
Don't want to care we have a one
major title change today. You

2633
02:34:17,850 --> 02:34:20,940
heard it earlier Sir Vincent,
who was just knighted as

2634
02:34:20,940 --> 02:34:24,720
grilling man of Greenbrier woods
now becomes the Baron of the

2635
02:34:24,750 --> 02:34:29,940
Alabama Gulf Coast to the
Florida Panhandle. That's quite

2636
02:34:29,940 --> 02:34:34,290
a territory. Can you have all of
that? Can you have the whole

2637
02:34:34,290 --> 02:34:37,470
thing from the Alabama Gulf
Coast to the Florida Panhandle

2638
02:34:37,470 --> 02:34:38,640
that whole swath

2639
02:34:38,640 --> 02:34:40,410
John C. Dvorak: Aaron Yes. Not
that much.

2640
02:34:40,980 --> 02:34:43,290
Adam Curry: Alrighty, then.
Fantastic. may have

2641
02:34:43,290 --> 02:34:45,150
John C. Dvorak: a competing
Baron in the area. We'll have to

2642
02:34:45,150 --> 02:34:45,810
work that out

2643
02:34:45,810 --> 02:34:51,270
Adam Curry: as well for sure. We
want to thank everybody who, who

2644
02:34:51,270 --> 02:34:55,410
became a night for your
incredible perseverance and

2645
02:34:55,410 --> 02:34:57,750
sticking with us and sticking
with the show and I'm glad you

2646
02:34:57,750 --> 02:35:01,740
have something to show off. Now.
You They are great at meetups

2647
02:35:02,190 --> 02:35:06,210
people love to see the night
rings and Dame rings at meetups

2648
02:35:08,100 --> 02:35:09,000
bring it along

2649
02:35:09,210 --> 02:35:12,750
John C. Dvorak: and they beep if
you're near your soulmate

2650
02:35:15,030 --> 02:35:20,220
Adam Curry: your twin flame it
lights up near your twin flame

2651
02:35:21,990 --> 02:35:28,350
okay the I just I only really
have one or two more topics the

2652
02:35:28,380 --> 02:35:33,780
the bull crap debate over what's
happening at the border is just

2653
02:35:33,780 --> 02:35:42,840
going insane the CBS This
Morning went to an all time low

2654
02:35:43,920 --> 02:35:47,220
read and I don't have the full
report I wish I had that I just

2655
02:35:47,220 --> 02:35:51,690
couldn't find it this morning.
This is very reminiscent of we

2656
02:35:51,690 --> 02:35:55,350
needed to get into the Iraq War
and it wasn't really happening

2657
02:35:55,380 --> 02:35:58,050
we needed some more need people
to get on board we needed the

2658
02:35:58,050 --> 02:36:05,370
country to hate them hate the
Iraqis and so a daughter of a

2659
02:36:06,090 --> 02:36:08,250
was it Hill Norman I think
daughter of a big

2660
02:36:08,520 --> 02:36:11,070
John C. Dvorak: this is the yeah
the Iraq war with the first one

2661
02:36:11,100 --> 02:36:16,350
the first one Yeah. Storm with
Bush Bush one Yeah.

2662
02:36:16,770 --> 02:36:19,770
Adam Curry: So we needed to get
some some buy in and we didn't

2663
02:36:19,770 --> 02:36:22,530
have you know weapons of mass
destruction stuff we really

2664
02:36:22,530 --> 02:36:25,410
needed was something that would
that would touch the American

2665
02:36:25,410 --> 02:36:28,320
hearts and whenever you want to
just think of the children just

2666
02:36:28,350 --> 02:36:30,930
just do something for children
and you're good to go because

2667
02:36:30,930 --> 02:36:37,710
everybody was so instead of well
it means that the original

2668
02:36:37,710 --> 02:36:41,700
template for this was the Iraqi
soldiers came in to the

2669
02:36:41,700 --> 02:36:46,050
infirmary award and they took
the babies out of the incubators

2670
02:36:46,050 --> 02:36:47,670
and threw them on the floor.

2671
02:36:48,000 --> 02:36:50,550
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, how's it
go? Are we do we have that clip

2672
02:36:50,550 --> 02:36:51,150
somewhere

2673
02:36:51,480 --> 02:36:55,530
Adam Curry: that's worth looking
for? Let me see incubator

2674
02:36:55,740 --> 02:36:57,870
John C. Dvorak: No I think it
would be under that wouldn't

2675
02:36:57,870 --> 02:37:04,020
have been under Hill and
Knowlton testimony Iraq War

2676
02:37:04,020 --> 02:37:05,130
probably under a rock

2677
02:37:05,220 --> 02:37:08,370
Adam Curry: I'm gonna see Hill
and Knowlton scam AB to very

2678
02:37:08,370 --> 02:37:08,700
much

2679
02:37:08,700 --> 02:37:13,170
Unknown: be part of our final
witness is also using an assumed

2680
02:37:13,170 --> 02:37:15,600
name and again we ask

2681
02:37:15,720 --> 02:37:17,910
Adam Curry: this was on this was
in the Senate was it not?

2682
02:37:18,660 --> 02:37:20,970
John C. Dvorak: No, this was
actually this was interesting

2683
02:37:20,970 --> 02:37:25,530
about this was a special hearing
with Senator with the hope with

2684
02:37:25,530 --> 02:37:29,310
the regular congress people but
it was not in an official

2685
02:37:29,310 --> 02:37:32,610
setting. It was some something
scam ish about the setting.

2686
02:37:33,240 --> 02:37:37,320
Unknown: Our friends in the
media to respect the need to for

2687
02:37:37,320 --> 02:37:40,680
her to protect what I had
forgotten about this whole set

2688
02:37:40,680 --> 02:37:43,170
ally call on it. Now you're on
to testify.

2689
02:37:46,140 --> 02:37:49,500
Mr. Chairman and members of the
committee, my name is Nate era,

2690
02:37:49,800 --> 02:37:51,150
and I just came out of Kuwait.

2691
02:37:58,020 --> 02:38:00,840
My mother and I were in Kuwait
on August 2 for a peaceful

2692
02:38:00,840 --> 02:38:06,210
summer holiday. My older sister
had a baby on July 29. And we

2693
02:38:06,210 --> 02:38:10,560
wanted to spend some time in
Kuwait with her. I only pray

2694
02:38:10,560 --> 02:38:12,960
that none of my 10th grade
classmates had a summer vacation

2695
02:38:12,960 --> 02:38:20,340
like I did. And there were some
time that could be an adult that

2696
02:38:20,340 --> 02:38:26,130
could go up quickly. But I still
happen to the children have quit

2697
02:38:26,940 --> 02:38:30,900
on to my country has changed my
life forever. That's to the life

2698
02:38:30,900 --> 02:38:39,990
of our Kuwaitis young and old.
Your children no more. My

2699
02:38:39,990 --> 02:38:44,100
sister, with my five year old
nephew, traveled across the

2700
02:38:44,100 --> 02:38:48,990
desert to save safety. There is
no milk available for vaping

2701
02:38:48,990 --> 02:38:54,180
quit. They barely escaped when
their car was stuck in the

2702
02:38:54,180 --> 02:39:00,390
Desert, desert sand and help
came from Saudi Arabia. I stayed

2703
02:39:00,390 --> 02:39:04,920
behind and wanted to do
something for my country. The

2704
02:39:04,920 --> 02:39:08,640
second week after invasion, I
volunteered I volunteered at the

2705
02:39:08,820 --> 02:39:12,870
dawn hospital with 12 other
women who wanted to help as

2706
02:39:12,870 --> 02:39:17,730
well. I was the youngest
volunteer. Other women were from

2707
02:39:17,730 --> 02:39:22,380
20 to 30 years old. While I was
there, I saw the Iraqi soldiers

2708
02:39:22,650 --> 02:39:26,280
come into the hospital with
guns. They took the babies out

2709
02:39:26,280 --> 02:39:32,940
of incubators, incubators and
let the children today on the

2710
02:39:32,940 --> 02:39:33,720
call for

2711
02:39:37,890 --> 02:39:40,590
Adam Curry: Academy Award winner
ladies and gentlemen Mira

2712
02:39:40,650 --> 02:39:42,690
John C. Dvorak: find out whose
This is because I'm doing these

2713
02:39:42,690 --> 02:39:44,640
radio plays. We need

2714
02:39:44,640 --> 02:39:47,790
Adam Curry: to find her. So just
so you know, this turned out to

2715
02:39:47,790 --> 02:39:51,480
be a total lie that maybe she
was the daughter of an

2716
02:39:51,480 --> 02:39:52,470
ambassador. I think

2717
02:39:52,500 --> 02:39:54,270
John C. Dvorak: she was the
daughter of somebody important.

2718
02:39:54,510 --> 02:39:57,840
And she was set up it was put
into this Currently she's pretty

2719
02:39:57,840 --> 02:40:00,480
good actress and they put her in
in front of them. Congress to

2720
02:40:00,480 --> 02:40:04,470
give this cock and bull story,
which was just a complete lie.

2721
02:40:04,920 --> 02:40:08,220
It was complete hoax and it was
done by Hill and Knowlton. Yes,

2722
02:40:08,220 --> 02:40:10,440
Adam Curry: they had dreamed it
up. They had given her the

2723
02:40:10,440 --> 02:40:15,870
script and it was a total lie.
And this is not just hearsay. So

2724
02:40:15,870 --> 02:40:18,900
now we get and this is a great
script. You can use it for

2725
02:40:18,900 --> 02:40:21,720
anything. Let's take some let's
take some children and make them

2726
02:40:21,720 --> 02:40:24,420
scream climate change. Alright,
let's do that. It's fantastic.

2727
02:40:24,420 --> 02:40:28,410
Kids worked to great way to go
to just if you want to tug at

2728
02:40:28,410 --> 02:40:31,410
the heartstrings. And that's
what CBS This Morning did.

2729
02:40:31,440 --> 02:40:33,900
Unknown: President of the
American Academy of Pediatrics

2730
02:40:33,900 --> 02:40:37,980
toured to CBP facilities last
week, and tell CBS News they are

2731
02:40:37,980 --> 02:40:41,640
no place for children, Dr. Sara
Goza received these pictures

2732
02:40:41,850 --> 02:40:44,730
from a social worker that were
drawn by children recently

2733
02:40:44,730 --> 02:40:48,450
released from CBP custody,
showing them in cages

2734
02:40:48,480 --> 02:40:51,030
paints a terrible picture and
imagine the effect it's going to

2735
02:40:51,030 --> 02:40:54,090
have on these kids for the rest
of their life here in the United

2736
02:40:54,090 --> 02:40:56,160
States of America. There's
should not be

2737
02:40:56,190 --> 02:40:59,940
it's a devastating report that
by by every measure, we as

2738
02:40:59,940 --> 02:41:03,240
adults can debate cages or not
cages, but those drawings don't

2739
02:41:03,540 --> 02:41:05,430
tell the story. Right about
that.

2740
02:41:05,700 --> 02:41:07,980
Adam Curry: So have you seen
these drawings?

2741
02:41:08,250 --> 02:41:10,680
John C. Dvorak: weigh me? Oh, I
want to I have not okay, first

2742
02:41:10,680 --> 02:41:14,550
of all, no. And I want to point
out something they said, which

2743
02:41:14,550 --> 02:41:19,650
was their their disclaimer, we
can debate cages are not going

2744
02:41:21,120 --> 02:41:25,140
to gloss that over. But you
can't deny these pictures a

2745
02:41:25,140 --> 02:41:27,180
Adam Curry: reason why. Yeah,
take a look at the pictures. The

2746
02:41:27,180 --> 02:41:30,510
reason why they say that is
because it doesn't look like a

2747
02:41:30,510 --> 02:41:34,920
cage at all. You see bars you
see bars or a fence, which is

2748
02:41:34,950 --> 02:41:38,070
what the kids and it's
interesting that all of them are

2749
02:41:38,070 --> 02:41:41,730
drawn. And this is the this is
why I think is total bull crap.

2750
02:41:42,330 --> 02:41:48,600
They were drawn from the reverse
angle. So not what a child saw.

2751
02:41:50,490 --> 02:41:53,850
But and there were also done on
on canvas, which was mounted. I

2752
02:41:53,850 --> 02:41:58,650
mean, it was not just drawn on a
piece of paper, John is Canvas.

2753
02:41:59,940 --> 02:42:05,820
Someone went out got canvas and
said Now draw something. It

2754
02:42:05,820 --> 02:42:10,320
doesn't really matter. It's it
the way you spin this. And the

2755
02:42:10,320 --> 02:42:13,050
way it's just abuse. It's abuse
of children. It's the whole

2756
02:42:13,050 --> 02:42:16,800
situation is sad for everybody
everywhere. The whole thing is

2757
02:42:16,800 --> 02:42:18,510
just it's really really sad.

2758
02:42:18,810 --> 02:42:22,350
John C. Dvorak: Now drawings by
children who held and boxes or

2759
02:42:22,350 --> 02:42:24,990
whatever cages, cages were in
this case,

2760
02:42:25,020 --> 02:42:26,610
Adam Curry: do you see him? You
see these? These by

2761
02:42:26,610 --> 02:42:28,740
John C. Dvorak: the way? And
this is unsleeved? This is the

2762
02:42:28,740 --> 02:42:34,800
CBS website? Yeah. You see it?
You see the one here? This one I

2763
02:42:34,830 --> 02:42:37,410
doubt I'm looking at there's a
bunch of them. But the one I'm

2764
02:42:37,410 --> 02:42:42,240
looking at is actually an
overhead view. Oh, all in down

2765
02:42:42,240 --> 02:42:44,820
on the course. And of course
it's with blankets and then

2766
02:42:44,820 --> 02:42:50,640
there's this Yeah, it's
horrible. It's also bold to say,

2767
02:42:50,640 --> 02:42:52,500
Oh, by the way, all ugly.
They're drawn by the same

2768
02:42:52,500 --> 02:42:53,100
person. Yeah,

2769
02:42:53,160 --> 02:42:57,900
Adam Curry: it's exactly. It's
just abusing children to make a

2770
02:42:57,900 --> 02:43:01,050
point. Now, I have one

2771
02:43:01,050 --> 02:43:03,450
John C. Dvorak: by the way, this
was part of a concerted effort

2772
02:43:03,450 --> 02:43:06,480
nationwide because there are
protests over here at El Sarita

2773
02:43:06,480 --> 02:43:09,570
Plaza again where I went to last
time, because that's when they

2774
02:43:09,570 --> 02:43:12,930
had the protest released the
full report and I have my sign

2775
02:43:12,930 --> 02:43:16,470
that I collected. And then
apparently now they had another

2776
02:43:16,470 --> 02:43:20,040
one it was about children's in
cages, children in cages. So

2777
02:43:20,040 --> 02:43:22,830
they have one of these protests
up in Port Angeles, Washington,

2778
02:43:23,370 --> 02:43:25,950
with a bunch of people bitching
and moaning about children in

2779
02:43:25,950 --> 02:43:30,180
cages and Mimi's there was
fairly famous in the town for

2780
02:43:30,180 --> 02:43:34,500
being a troublemaker. So she
starts because she's the girl

2781
02:43:34,500 --> 02:43:38,250
who goes past all these mostly
old farts, old Democrat farts.

2782
02:43:38,580 --> 02:43:41,070
And she started to ask grilling
each one of them. Well, why are

2783
02:43:41,070 --> 02:43:45,270
you so concerned about the kids
in the Texas holding facilities?

2784
02:43:45,270 --> 02:43:49,710
We have homeless around here we
have issues ground here that

2785
02:43:49,710 --> 02:43:53,550
need addressing immediately and
it's local. Why are you

2786
02:43:53,550 --> 02:43:57,930
protesting the kids in Texas?
And then nobody had a good

2787
02:43:57,930 --> 02:44:01,050
answer. And then she didn't have
some more mean questions. I

2788
02:44:02,250 --> 02:44:06,690
Adam Curry: don't even know. We
need Mimi in Texas though. We

2789
02:44:06,690 --> 02:44:08,760
need her in Austin. You're gonna
need some help.

2790
02:44:09,360 --> 02:44:11,370
John C. Dvorak: Well, she was
there, you know, wait for the

2791
02:44:11,370 --> 02:44:15,000
wedding and she didn't think
much of the place. Thanks.

2792
02:44:17,010 --> 02:44:18,630
Adam Curry: All right, don't
come Don't Don't let the door

2793
02:44:18,630 --> 02:44:23,820
hit you on the way out. I have
one one final clip. Fareed

2794
02:44:23,820 --> 02:44:28,800
Zakaria, the plagiarist from
CNN, but he is a globalist that

2795
02:44:28,800 --> 02:44:30,960
people listened to and he did a

2796
02:44:30,960 --> 02:44:32,670
John C. Dvorak: he's against the
Constitution. He wants it

2797
02:44:32,670 --> 02:44:33,210
redone.

2798
02:44:34,110 --> 02:44:39,000
Adam Curry: Oh my god for
context. Yes. Korea

2799
02:44:39,030 --> 02:44:40,680
constitution.

2800
02:44:42,120 --> 02:44:43,980
John C. Dvorak: Not an over you
have a clip. Yeah,

2801
02:44:44,010 --> 02:44:46,590
Adam Curry: we might have me
mine doesn't matter. What I had

2802
02:44:46,590 --> 02:44:52,050
here is his take on the
immigration situation at the

2803
02:44:52,050 --> 02:44:56,190
border, which as you recall, was
a manufactured crisis until it

2804
02:44:56,190 --> 02:45:00,000
wasn't and then it was exist and
it was kids in cages and which

2805
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:04,950
It isn't. But now it's just the
Trump is killing babies throwing

2806
02:45:04,950 --> 02:45:07,440
them out of the incubator onto
they should do that.

2807
02:45:08,640 --> 02:45:12,330
Unknown: I saw Trump coming.
Grab the baby from the throne on

2808
02:45:12,330 --> 02:45:14,940
the floor. cold floor.

2809
02:45:15,810 --> 02:45:21,690
Go. Here's my take, given
President Trump's mean spirited

2810
02:45:21,690 --> 02:45:23,880
and often bigoted attitudes on
immigration,

2811
02:45:24,480 --> 02:45:28,920
throwing babies on the floor or
cold for

2812
02:45:28,949 --> 02:45:32,579
me to say this, but he is right
that the United States faces a

2813
02:45:32,579 --> 02:45:36,569
crisis with its asylum system.
Democrats might hope that the

2814
02:45:36,569 --> 02:45:39,809
out of control situation at the
southern border undermines

2815
02:45:39,809 --> 02:45:42,779
Trump's image among his base as
a tough guy who can tackle

2816
02:45:42,779 --> 02:45:46,649
immigration. But they should be
careful, it could actually work

2817
02:45:46,649 --> 02:45:51,749
to the President's advantage
since 2014, the flow of asylum

2818
02:45:51,749 --> 02:45:52,169
seekers and

2819
02:45:52,170 --> 02:45:54,270
Adam Curry: by the way, please
take note that he doesn't really

2820
02:45:54,270 --> 02:45:57,270
give a crap about the children
and the asylum seekers or the

2821
02:45:57,270 --> 02:46:00,780
immigrants. He only cares about
Trump winning another election.

2822
02:46:00,810 --> 02:46:02,670
That's what this whole piece is
about.

2823
02:46:02,790 --> 02:46:03,840
John C. Dvorak: Here's what it
sounds like.

2824
02:46:04,199 --> 02:46:06,629
Adam Curry: Democrats pay
attention. He's right and he's

2825
02:46:06,629 --> 02:46:08,969
gonna win. If you don't, I don't
know why more goes

2826
02:46:08,970 --> 02:46:12,360
Unknown: into the United States
has skyrocketed. Last year

2827
02:46:12,390 --> 02:46:19,260
immigration courts received
162,000 asylum claims or 240%

2828
02:46:19,260 --> 02:46:23,640
increase from 2014. The result
is a staggering backlog with

2829
02:46:23,640 --> 02:46:27,450
more than 300,000 Asylum cases
pending and the average

2830
02:46:27,450 --> 02:46:31,350
immigration case has been
pending for more than 700 days.

2831
02:46:32,100 --> 02:46:35,730
It's also clear that the rules
surrounding asylum are vague,

2832
02:46:35,880 --> 02:46:39,810
lacks and being gamed. The
initial step for many asylum

2833
02:46:39,810 --> 02:46:43,170
seekers is to convince officers
that they have a credible fear

2834
02:46:43,170 --> 02:46:47,550
of persecution in their home
countries, and about 75% meet

2835
02:46:47,550 --> 02:46:51,480
that criteria. Some applicants
for asylum have suspiciously

2836
02:46:51,480 --> 02:46:55,920
similar stories using identical
phrases. Many simply use the

2837
02:46:55,920 --> 02:47:00,030
system to enter the US and then
melt into the shadows or gain a

2838
02:47:00,030 --> 02:47:04,470
work permit while their
application is pending. Asylum

2839
02:47:04,470 --> 02:47:07,830
is meant to be granted to a very
small number of people in

2840
02:47:07,830 --> 02:47:12,690
extreme circumstances, not as a
substitute for the process of

2841
02:47:12,690 --> 02:47:16,980
immigration itself. Yet the two
have gotten mixed up. As the

2842
02:47:16,980 --> 02:47:20,310
Atlantic's David Frum has
pointed out, the idea of a right

2843
02:47:20,310 --> 02:47:24,180
to asylum is a relatively recent
one, dating to the early years

2844
02:47:24,180 --> 02:47:27,810
of the Cold War. guilt ridden
over the rejection of many

2845
02:47:27,810 --> 02:47:32,430
Jewish refugees during World War
Two, the UN created a right of

2846
02:47:32,430 --> 02:47:36,210
asylum to protect those who are
fleeing regimes where they would

2847
02:47:36,210 --> 02:47:40,020
be killed or imprisoned because
of their identity or beliefs.

2848
02:47:40,320 --> 02:47:43,830
This standard has gotten broader
and border over the years and

2849
02:47:43,830 --> 02:47:47,220
now includes threats of gang
warfare and domestic violence.

2850
02:47:47,550 --> 02:47:51,000
These looser criteria coupled
with the reality that this is a

2851
02:47:51,000 --> 02:47:55,170
safe way to enter the US have
made the asylum system easy to

2852
02:47:55,170 --> 02:47:58,620
abuse. Applications from
Hondurans, Guatemalans and

2853
02:47:58,620 --> 02:48:02,310
Salvadorans have surged, even
though the murder rate in their

2854
02:48:02,310 --> 02:48:06,090
countries has been cut in half.
More broadly, hundreds of

2855
02:48:06,090 --> 02:48:09,270
millions of people around the
world who live in poor unstable

2856
02:48:09,270 --> 02:48:13,140
regions with threats of violence
abound could easily apply for

2857
02:48:13,140 --> 02:48:17,130
asylum. Do they all have the
legal right to enter the US

2858
02:48:17,130 --> 02:48:20,760
through a backdoor, bypassing
the normal immigration process?

2859
02:48:21,840 --> 02:48:24,600
The Trump administration's
approach has been mostly to

2860
02:48:24,630 --> 02:48:28,560
toughen up the criteria hire
more judges push Mexico to keep

2861
02:48:28,560 --> 02:48:32,670
applicants from entering the US.
But a much larger fix is needed.

2862
02:48:33,000 --> 02:48:37,500
The criteria for asylum need to
be rewritten and substantially

2863
02:48:37,500 --> 02:48:40,320
tightened. The number of courts
and officials dealing with

2864
02:48:40,320 --> 02:48:43,890
asylum must be massively
expanded. People should not be

2865
02:48:43,890 --> 02:48:47,640
able to use asylum claims as a
way to work in America. There

2866
02:48:47,640 --> 02:48:50,250
needs to be a much greater
cooperation with the home

2867
02:48:50,250 --> 02:48:53,520
countries of these applicants,
rather than insults, threats and

2868
02:48:53,550 --> 02:48:57,660
eight freezes. No one fix will
do it. But we need the kind of

2869
02:48:57,660 --> 02:49:01,380
sensible bipartisan legislation
that has resolved past

2870
02:49:01,380 --> 02:49:05,460
immigration crisis. Democrats
have spent most of their efforts

2871
02:49:05,460 --> 02:49:08,220
on this topic assailing the
Trump administration for its

2872
02:49:08,220 --> 02:49:12,870
heartlessness fine, but that
does not address the roots of

2873
02:49:12,870 --> 02:49:17,340
this genuine crisis. If things
continue to spiral downward, and

2874
02:49:17,340 --> 02:49:21,150
America's southern border seems
out of control, Trump's tough

2875
02:49:21,150 --> 02:49:24,660
rhetoric and hardline stance
will become increasingly

2876
02:49:24,660 --> 02:49:28,200
attractive to the public. Keep
in mind that the rise of

2877
02:49:28,200 --> 02:49:32,700
populism in the western world is
almost everywhere tied to fears

2878
02:49:32,730 --> 02:49:35,460
of growing out of control
immigration,

2879
02:49:36,120 --> 02:49:39,450
you think they'd notice that but
yes, that guy can say that a

2880
02:49:39,450 --> 02:49:40,650
little less words. Yeah,

2881
02:49:40,680 --> 02:49:42,720
Adam Curry: I agree. But I
thought it was important to play

2882
02:49:42,720 --> 02:49:44,880
it because he does lay it out
pretty well. But there's a

2883
02:49:44,880 --> 02:49:48,690
couple things I don't
understand, though. So I'm the

2884
02:49:48,720 --> 02:49:54,630
IMA the Immigration Nationality
Act that recognizes a

2885
02:49:55,860 --> 02:49:59,520
John C. Dvorak: asylum is a
nationality or naturalization

2886
02:49:59,730 --> 02:50:03,240
Adam Curry: to what I say in US
Immigration and Nationality Act

2887
02:50:03,330 --> 02:50:06,810
actually would be national.
Okay. naturalization, yeah.

2888
02:50:07,380 --> 02:50:10,320
Well, this is coming from the
wiki pedia. So take it with

2889
02:50:10,320 --> 02:50:13,650
whatever you probably were
accurate. The United States is

2890
02:50:13,650 --> 02:50:17,640
obliged to recognize recognize
valid claims for asylum since

2891
02:50:17,700 --> 02:50:21,720
the under the 1951 convention
relating to the status Status of

2892
02:50:21,720 --> 02:50:26,430
Refugees and his 1967 protocol,
as defined by these agreements,

2893
02:50:26,430 --> 02:50:29,160
A refugee is a person who was
outside their country of

2894
02:50:29,160 --> 02:50:35,550
nationality, coup owning, owing
to a fear of persecution, on

2895
02:50:35,550 --> 02:50:40,020
account of a protected ground is
unable or unwilling to avail

2896
02:50:40,020 --> 02:50:44,040
himself of the protection of the
state. So it's about the state

2897
02:50:44,040 --> 02:50:45,090
being against you.

2898
02:50:45,600 --> 02:50:49,110
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, this is
like this is so this what we're

2899
02:50:49,110 --> 02:50:53,040
seeing here is I wish you had we
had one I don't know if we do a

2900
02:50:53,280 --> 02:51:00,750
Fletcher Soros. This is a Soros
scam. He's orchestrated this to

2901
02:51:00,750 --> 02:51:05,970
just embarrass the bar system it
in general. Yeah. No, it's

2902
02:51:05,970 --> 02:51:07,050
bullcrap. To hold on.

2903
02:51:07,500 --> 02:51:12,210
Adam Curry: Let me let me, let
me finish the. So it's, I want

2904
02:51:12,210 --> 02:51:15,900
to fear persecution, okay.
protected grounds include race,

2905
02:51:15,900 --> 02:51:19,110
nationality, religion, political
opinion, and membership of a

2906
02:51:19,110 --> 02:51:23,220
particular social group. But
then here's the part that's very

2907
02:51:23,220 --> 02:51:26,790
confused. So I don't see how I'm
afraid of gangs, domestic

2908
02:51:26,790 --> 02:51:29,850
violence qualifies. And those
are the people of course, that

2909
02:51:29,850 --> 02:51:33,870
don't qualify. But by the time
there's a court hearing, they're

2910
02:51:33,870 --> 02:51:37,590
gone. They're there and they've
melted into the shadows. But

2911
02:51:37,590 --> 02:51:40,170
each year, the president United
States since a proposal to

2912
02:51:40,170 --> 02:51:43,920
Congress for the maximum number
of refugees to be admitted into

2913
02:51:43,920 --> 02:51:47,640
the country under the asylum law
for the upcoming fiscal year.

2914
02:51:48,870 --> 02:51:51,720
And this is typically goes
unchallenged, I haven't I've

2915
02:51:51,720 --> 02:51:57,450
just seen this now. I've not
looked into it. But here is for

2916
02:51:57,450 --> 02:52:03,450
the last seven years. The
totals. So there's a an

2917
02:52:03,450 --> 02:52:06,510
allocation. Oh yeah. So there's
the ceiling. And then there's

2918
02:52:06,510 --> 02:52:14,790
the actual arrivals. In 2013,
the ceiling was 70,000, actual

2919
02:52:14,790 --> 02:52:20,430
arrivals 58. That remained
70,000 through 2015. And the

2920
02:52:20,430 --> 02:52:27,990
numbers all remained not just
literally 69,987. I wonder if

2921
02:52:27,990 --> 02:52:32,610
these numbers are bogus,
actually 2017 ceiling was

2922
02:52:34,230 --> 02:52:45,690
110,000, but only 53,000. Were
arrivals. For 2018. The ceiling

2923
02:52:45,690 --> 02:52:50,910
was 45,000. But only 22,000.
Actual arrivals. So they're

2924
02:52:50,940 --> 02:52:56,310
they're either there's a lack of
people who are actually looking

2925
02:52:56,310 --> 02:53:02,100
for asylum. Or they're not
processing them fast enough, or

2926
02:53:02,130 --> 02:53:04,530
John C. Dvorak: I don't know.
But it's sad to find that

2927
02:53:04,530 --> 02:53:07,470
because now is your beat. Now
I'm going to find out,

2928
02:53:08,010 --> 02:53:10,320
Adam Curry: because it seems
like we have hundreds of 1000s

2929
02:53:10,320 --> 02:53:13,080
of people coming in, but they're
not really even hitting the

2930
02:53:13,080 --> 02:53:19,230
ceilings and the ceiling seem
reasonable. 30,000 70,000 in

2931
02:53:19,230 --> 02:53:20,010
some years,

2932
02:53:20,040 --> 02:53:23,790
John C. Dvorak: 70,000 is a good
number. Yeah. I thought absorb

2933
02:53:23,790 --> 02:53:30,180
that quite easily. Yeah. So all
right. Well, I have two last

2934
02:53:30,180 --> 02:53:37,470
clips. One is a fourth of July
clip that we don't hear anymore.

2935
02:53:38,430 --> 02:53:43,050
This is for 2015. Generally
speaking during many of the

2936
02:53:43,050 --> 02:53:47,370
President that pre Trump instead
of talking about tanks and the

2937
02:53:47,370 --> 02:53:50,430
wreck and the roads and doing
all this other stuff. We

2938
02:53:50,430 --> 02:53:53,130
generally heard something like
this guys didn't know

2939
02:53:53,130 --> 02:53:55,440
Unknown: it at the time, but
they had several close calls

2940
02:53:55,440 --> 02:53:59,640
leading up to the July 4 Holiday
potential terror attacks.

2941
02:53:59,820 --> 02:54:03,900
Inspired by ISIS. Chief us
SECURITY CORRESPONDENT Jim

2942
02:54:03,900 --> 02:54:05,220
Shooto has that for us.

2943
02:54:06,630 --> 02:54:10,170
US law enforcement sported
several terror plots in the last

2944
02:54:10,170 --> 02:54:14,610
four weeks, including plots time
to the July 4 weekend. US

2945
02:54:14,610 --> 02:54:19,260
officials tell CNN Director
James Comey says the FBI has

2946
02:54:19,260 --> 02:54:23,340
made more than 10 Isis related
arrests in the last month some

2947
02:54:23,550 --> 02:54:26,460
tied to the holiday. They
stopped the stuff that was

2948
02:54:26,460 --> 02:54:30,360
trying to come at us for July 4,
but that now it's July, seventh

2949
02:54:30,360 --> 02:54:33,180
and eighth and they're on to the
next thing. The foiled attacks

2950
02:54:33,180 --> 02:54:37,260
included targets coast to coast
and were unsophisticated, with

2951
02:54:37,260 --> 02:54:41,280
plans that included guns, knives
and other weapons. Fitting ISIS

2952
02:54:41,280 --> 02:54:44,910
is public calls to supporters to
attack in any way possible.

2953
02:54:46,320 --> 02:54:49,830
Investigators believe that ISIS
members overseas enabled the

2954
02:54:49,830 --> 02:54:53,430
plots recruiting and encouraging
Americans to carry out attacks

2955
02:54:53,430 --> 02:54:58,320
on US soil, even selecting
possible targets. Comey calls it

2956
02:54:58,320 --> 02:55:03,120
crowdsourcing terrorists Senator
James rich telling CNN Wednesday

2957
02:55:03,120 --> 02:55:04,830
that time was critical.

2958
02:55:05,069 --> 02:55:09,419
Some were quite imminent,
actually within days. Within

2959
02:55:09,419 --> 02:55:12,389
days, there was one of course
there was even one that was

2960
02:55:12,419 --> 02:55:13,739
within hours or

2961
02:55:13,740 --> 02:55:17,520
minutes. The foil plots come as
the FBI continues to warn that

2962
02:55:17,520 --> 02:55:21,450
terrorist suspects have gone
dark in cyberspace, increasingly

2963
02:55:21,450 --> 02:55:24,360
communicating through encrypted
messaging that is widely

2964
02:55:24,360 --> 02:55:27,540
available, but impossible for
the intelligence community to

2965
02:55:27,540 --> 02:55:30,960
monitor. The life force weekend
may have passed. But US

2966
02:55:30,960 --> 02:55:34,980
officials tell CNN that the risk
of terror attacks remains very

2967
02:55:34,980 --> 02:55:35,370
high.

2968
02:55:35,489 --> 02:55:40,289
Based on very recent past
trends. ISIS has been willing to

2969
02:55:40,319 --> 02:55:44,639
and able to push out information
to Americans and a small number

2970
02:55:44,639 --> 02:55:47,309
have at least been willing to
try to act based on that.

2971
02:55:48,960 --> 02:55:51,690
Are Jim Shooter reporting there
from Washington for us?

2972
02:55:51,869 --> 02:55:53,939
Adam Curry: You know, you are so
right. And I was just looking

2973
02:55:53,939 --> 02:56:02,849
through the archives. Back to
2014 1516 17. No, not 1713.

2974
02:56:03,359 --> 02:56:08,279
Every single year Fourth of
July. Oh, ISIS terror attack.

2975
02:56:08,279 --> 02:56:10,739
They're gonna get us they hate
our freedom. They hit our

2976
02:56:10,739 --> 02:56:16,319
liberty. So Right. And what
happened this year? We don't

2977
02:56:16,319 --> 02:56:18,479
have that anymore. There's no
terror. We're done.

2978
02:56:20,010 --> 02:56:21,540
John C. Dvorak: Trump changed
the narrative.

2979
02:56:23,130 --> 02:56:25,680
Adam Curry: Just shows you how
much bull crap it really is.

2980
02:56:26,040 --> 02:56:28,800
John C. Dvorak: That's bull
crap, bull crap. I have one last

2981
02:56:28,800 --> 02:56:31,620
clip to finish the show unless
you have one because this is a

2982
02:56:31,650 --> 02:56:32,460
show closer.

2983
02:56:32,490 --> 02:56:35,010
Adam Curry: Yeah, no. Will
school close the show? Okay.

2984
02:56:35,849 --> 02:56:38,849
John C. Dvorak: It also brings
us back up to speed on on

2985
02:56:39,479 --> 02:56:44,399
vegetarian ism meat burgers, and
it's about and we'd like to do

2986
02:56:44,399 --> 02:56:47,849
food stuff on the show. Yes, and
this is a little rundown on the

2987
02:56:47,849 --> 02:56:48,749
Impossible Burger.

2988
02:56:48,779 --> 02:56:50,639
Unknown: Many Americans will
spend the Fourth of July

2989
02:56:50,639 --> 02:56:54,599
barbecuing, but for a growing
number traditional meat will not

2990
02:56:54,629 --> 02:56:57,449
be on the menu. In today's
morning rounds. We look at the

2991
02:56:57,449 --> 02:57:01,619
rising popularity and health
effects of plant based meat

2992
02:57:01,859 --> 02:57:04,889
Impossible Burger and beyond
burger have exploded in

2993
02:57:04,889 --> 02:57:08,219
popularity. The two alternative
meat brands are available in

2994
02:57:08,219 --> 02:57:12,119
more than 40,000 restaurants now
and grocery stores combined. Dr.

2995
02:57:12,119 --> 02:57:14,609
Tara Newell is at the table we
should note Tara comes from a

2996
02:57:14,609 --> 02:57:19,859
house divided area husband eat
meat eats meat are high. Yeah,

2997
02:57:19,859 --> 02:57:23,609
like your husband. So what's in
this in this meat?

2998
02:57:23,640 --> 02:57:26,400
Well, this is so interesting
because actually these companies

2999
02:57:26,400 --> 02:57:28,710
are not necessarily catering to
people like me who are

3000
02:57:28,710 --> 02:57:31,530
vegetarian but to my husband
those who eat meat there may

3001
02:57:31,530 --> 02:57:34,440
want us they do and so they're
mimicking the taste and the

3002
02:57:34,440 --> 02:57:39,390
texture, the chew the sizzle and
even the bleed. So yes, we're

3003
02:57:39,390 --> 02:57:42,720
which is pretty amazing. So when
you compare the beyond burger

3004
02:57:42,720 --> 02:57:44,760
for example, and Impossible
Burger, they're relatively

3005
02:57:44,760 --> 02:57:47,400
similar but they differ in kind
of the key components of their

3006
02:57:47,400 --> 02:57:51,780
protein. So beyond burger uses a
P based protein and possibly

3007
02:57:51,780 --> 02:57:54,540
uses a soy based protein and
then they both have mixtures of

3008
02:57:54,540 --> 02:57:58,110
some oils in them either canola
oil or coconut oil. And

3009
02:57:58,110 --> 02:58:00,810
interestingly also you find the
beyond burger in the meat

3010
02:58:00,810 --> 02:58:03,270
section. They're specifically
putting it there because they

3011
02:58:03,270 --> 02:58:05,220
want to capture that market. Can
you

3012
02:58:05,220 --> 02:58:07,440
capture the taste or maybe
you're not supposed to really

3013
02:58:07,440 --> 02:58:09,570
capture the taste? Let it be
what it is

3014
02:58:09,600 --> 02:58:12,570
one of the differences between
the two is Impossible Burger

3015
02:58:12,570 --> 02:58:15,480
claims that they have found the
reason that meat tastes like

3016
02:58:15,480 --> 02:58:17,970
meat and that's something called
heme. So he has an iron

3017
02:58:17,970 --> 02:58:20,400
containing molecule. You may
have heard of hemoglobin or

3018
02:58:20,400 --> 02:58:22,890
myoglobin, all animals and
plants have it and they

3019
02:58:22,890 --> 02:58:27,270
basically have extracted this
from the roots of soy plants and

3020
02:58:27,270 --> 02:58:31,410
then grown that in yeast. Taken
that heme and put it in their

3021
02:58:31,410 --> 02:58:34,500
burger and they're saying that
that mimics the flavor the aroma

3022
02:58:34,500 --> 02:58:36,480
the taste one about not
impossible.

3023
02:58:36,900 --> 02:58:40,680
Okay, so are they healthy? Plant
based burgers, are they healthy

3024
02:58:40,680 --> 02:58:41,880
or healthier? Right

3025
02:58:41,880 --> 02:58:43,920
so that's really a great
question

3026
02:58:49,260 --> 02:58:51,360
Adam Curry: good one show closer
for sure.

3027
02:58:51,900 --> 02:58:53,100
John C. Dvorak: I'll be here all
the week.

3028
02:58:53,550 --> 02:58:56,910
Adam Curry: Well done. We're
having bison burgers tonight

3029
02:58:56,910 --> 02:58:57,840
before we watch TV.

3030
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John C. Dvorak: Those are
delicious. Yeah,

3031
02:58:59,760 --> 02:59:09,120
Adam Curry: that's what you want
people to soy. Yay. Well, Happy

3032
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Independence Day John.

3033
02:59:10,830 --> 02:59:12,720
John C. Dvorak: Happy
Independence Day to you and all

3034
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the listeners who care about
Independence Day Of course the

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Canadians don't and why would
the Europeans they don't care.

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But we do we do

3037
02:59:20,100 --> 02:59:25,500
Adam Curry: we care. Happy
Canadian day. A couple days

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behind. And know that Nick the
riders coming up next on no

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02:59:30,450 --> 02:59:36,120
agenda stream.com and that we
have some end of show mixes see

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brought to us by Sir seat sitter
mg and Danny Luce coming to you

3041
02:59:40,680 --> 02:59:43,260
from the frontier of Austin,
Texas, FEMA Region number six

3042
02:59:43,260 --> 02:59:46,380
and all the governmental maps in
the morning, everybody. I'm

3043
02:59:46,410 --> 02:59:48,930
John C. Dvorak: Adam curry, and
from Northern Silicon Valley.

3044
02:59:48,930 --> 02:59:50,070
I'm John C. Dvorak.

3045
02:59:50,100 --> 02:59:52,320
Adam Curry: We return on Sunday.
Please remember us at the

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02:59:52,320 --> 03:00:01,590
boruch.org/and A until then.
Adios mobos and such

3047
03:00:14,549 --> 03:00:18,149
Unknown: Howdy y'all, it's me
here again with a quick reminder

3048
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about wriggling for the Fourth
of July. You see a lot of people

3049
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are proud to be Americans.
That's wrong. Tomorrow the

3050
03:00:26,819 --> 03:00:32,489
Orange Man was gone. I'd be
happy with my life after the

3051
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communist is when everything
will be just fine. Hit notches

3052
03:00:40,109 --> 03:00:46,709
with Chrome bars. And let's see
man milkshakes. Because the bag

3053
03:00:46,709 --> 03:00:57,179
is an Asian fascist. It's not
like Nazis can't be gay proud to

3054
03:00:57,179 --> 03:01:12,119
be an antique Oban Roger growing
in me and I'll gladly throw in

3055
03:01:13,709 --> 03:01:19,229
there route stop the orange

3056
03:01:21,750 --> 03:01:22,830
revenant for

3057
03:01:25,920 --> 03:01:30,420
Remember folks, America ships
and it's never too late to start

3058
03:01:30,420 --> 03:01:35,160
punching Nazis violently
assaulting Republicans centrists

3059
03:01:35,580 --> 03:01:39,330
journalists and anyone who made
Hillary lose by voting for Jill

3060
03:01:39,330 --> 03:01:39,690
Stein.

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03:01:40,980 --> 03:01:41,940
Orange Man bad

3062
03:01:44,670 --> 03:01:50,940
we we have recently switched to
drinking water bottles out of

3063
03:01:51,210 --> 03:01:57,090
water out of when we have water
bottles out of a plastic story

3064
03:01:57,360 --> 03:02:04,860
away from plastic towards paper
we we have recently switched to

3065
03:02:04,860 --> 03:02:05,520
drinking

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03:02:07,680 --> 03:02:09,360
next level Illuminati

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03:02:10,380 --> 03:02:11,130
pregnant

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03:02:13,770 --> 03:02:32,040
babies live you don't have to
change water Bobby's pretty much

3069
03:02:32,100 --> 03:02:39,150
their thesis about this
obviously she's the daughter

3070
03:02:40,860 --> 03:02:50,970
this is the modern democratic
thanks for just having fewer of

3071
03:02:52,560 --> 03:03:13,710
us when we have water bottles
out of plastic find yourself

3072
03:03:13,710 --> 03:03:23,730
pregnant through and just having
fewer plastic away from plastic

3073
03:03:28,410 --> 03:03:45,030
that's pretty much their thesis
us needed all the time or choice

3074
03:03:45,120 --> 03:03:54,060
live that manholes glory for
half a billion or 2 billion like

3075
03:03:54,060 --> 03:03:54,960
Amala Harris

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03:03:55,920 --> 03:03:57,930
Adam Curry: you know, but he was

3077
03:03:57,960 --> 03:04:00,330
Unknown: he was the winner of
hammering and hammering and

3078
03:04:00,330 --> 03:04:00,750
hammering

3079
03:04:06,960 --> 03:04:08,880
Adam Curry: Well that sounds
painful hit the buzzer

3080
03:04:09,689 --> 03:04:12,569
John C. Dvorak: it's all good.
So I mentioned this to me show

3081
03:04:12,569 --> 03:04:45,059
no that's that he always says
that shit eating grin okay, we

3082
03:04:45,059 --> 03:04:53,999
can all go home MoPhO

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03:04:54,150 --> 03:04:57,630
Unknown: boruch.org/and a

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03:04:58,440 --> 03:05:00,090
thank you for bringing us both
sides. The