Unknown: Hi
Adam curry, John C Dvorak.
Adam Curry: It's Thursday June 27 2019. This is your award
winning give on nation media assassination episode 1150.
Unknown: This is no agenda,
Adam Curry: enjoying all the bugs on offer in my city and
broadcasting live from the frontier of Austin, Texas
capitol. The drone stars day in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry
John C. Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where the
Democrats all say podcast no agenda as low mass inborn. I'm
Jesse. Raglan Buzzkill.
Adam Curry: Okay, we can all go home. You nailed it. And that's
our show. Very good. Very good. I have to admit, I did double
duty but really shows four different activity last night.
John C. Dvorak: Sex. Oh, God, I
Adam Curry: wish now I second best thing. I went out to dinner
with the New York former New York banker. Oh, good. Yeah.
Yeah. Which I was like, really? Did you know what I do? You're
going to take me out on a Wednesday night when you know
the debates or Russia
John C. Dvorak: debates at the bar at all the bars,
Adam Curry: debates. No, no, we went
John C. Dvorak: to LA they did. Oh, really? That you would
Adam Curry: have actually would have been a very Austin thing
but he took me to a brand new restaurant. there and let me
tell you, this is big outside money coming in to Austin. Look
up Commodore CLM e DLR Commodore in Austin. This is I don't know
how much they paid to build this restaurant. It is cool.
John C. Dvorak: See c o m e d o R
Adam Curry: Yeah, Commodore monster Yes. They got some like
celebrity guys. I guess some kind of well known chef it's a
Mexican restaurant. But it has a very specific cook besides it
being you know total kind of hipster place in architecture I
mean seriously the way they built this with cool you know
they can open up the whole side of the of the restaurant and
they've got these beautiful change. It looks very steampunk
ish.
John C. Dvorak: But there seems to be is just a big brown
building or the one next to it. The building it's,
Adam Curry: it's well it's brown. You see brick in the
front. It's anyway giant their. Their hook is they serve bugs.
Oh, brother. How could How could I pass it
John C. Dvorak: up? Do you have a bunch?
Adam Curry: Of course I did. I had the ants and the
grasshoppers I honestly it was disappointing. Because they have
one because you know the girl comes over she's like me how can
I help you with anything so yeah, what has the grasshoppers
John C. Dvorak: you know, I've been in Mexico Mexico's had been
all I don't know that. I've went to one of the better restaurants
in Mexico City and they had bugs on the menu. Well, it was the
here's the disappointing weird mold that you get off a corn but
yes, they
Adam Curry: they serve that as well. The that's fungus I think.
John C. Dvorak: Well, whatever it is. It's really tasty. It's
very
Adam Curry: tasty. I was disappointed. I'm thinking I'm
gonna have great I'm gonna see a grasshopper I'm gonna have to
crunch this thing in my teeth. These were little baby
grasshoppers like that just came out of an incubator low premium
was just a sprinkling on top. You can't you couldn't really
try to take a picture. It can't really tell if it's great. Now
maybe maybe was just you could see an odd leg or two. But it
was
John C. Dvorak: placed like this is that it's a good cover for
when it gets infested by cockroaches.
Adam Curry: And then the ants were on the desert on the ice
cream. So there's the charming sprinkle a little dab which
interestingly the New York banker turned his nose up at
that. He tried to wear his I tried him and I thought peppery
John C. Dvorak: oh there peppery? Yeah. So then you did
double duty so you came back and watch the debates after the
fact.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I skimmed through it. This last night was
I knew this wasn't gonna be much and and although for me it was
kind of interesting to see the the audio the technical issues
they had. I really felt bad Well, everyone's laughing and
you know
John C. Dvorak: and of course you got in or didn't or in your
I know
Adam Curry: it's I know this feeling there's a guy and he's
pulling his hair out and they can't figure out why the routing
from the IFBB from the from the from the control room is routing
through to the floor and probably in everyone else's
eyes. I have been and
John C. Dvorak: by the way with these new rigs, I don't even
know I don't know if I can even operate one. They have this
networking system. I already know there's a name for it. And
everybody uses
Adam Curry: the audio networking at all. It all runs through.
There's no more cables, no more cables.
John C. Dvorak: It's Ethernet one plug in.
Adam Curry: No, it's all Ethernet. So the routing matrix
is completely digitized. And if it gets, I mean, this is why I
felt bad. I couldn't really sit there was shot in Freud going,
Ah, you suck. Even though I understand why people think it's
funny. But from a professional standpoint, I feel bad. Some
guys something happened. And I've been there so many times on
this very show. So do you know I did like the memes that I did.
Trump was tweeting all kinds of funny memes about and of course,
distracting from anything by just you know, highlighting the
audio glitch. But also, but also, everyone on stage, almost
everyone on stage. They take themselves so seriously,
especially MSNBC and Rachel and, and Chip Chuck chod cast. The
goal was the debate that was participating in demography.
Please, this stupid little dog and pony show. It's not even a
debate that can have 10 people and have a debate. Have you ever
heard that? You were a master debater? Weren't you in?
John C. Dvorak: It was always a master debater.
Adam Curry: I I masturbate the master? Okay, here we go. Wow.
John C. Dvorak: I can't even keep the joke. No, I tried.
Thank you. Stop. Let's start with this. You nailed it. You
dropped the ball. You are nailed it. And you went off your merry
way with Stacey Abrams. What? Yes. I remember this. It was
about a year or maybe two years ago. Yeah. No, no all talk. Are
you talking about Stroh as the guy the go to guy No
Adam Curry: incorrect snow incorrect. It was Pennebaker,
the professor in Austin when he was accusing me and my then
future wife of having white privilege and saying that the
Castro brothers were going to be the ones it wasn't me it was
from an obat dinner.
John C. Dvorak: Well, you brought it up.
Adam Curry: That's different.
John C. Dvorak: In fact, Castro was the guy who won you to oh, I
Adam Curry: disagree.
John C. Dvorak: I disagree. You can disagree all you want but
every if you read anything today this morning, and if you watch
the thing with Democrat perspective, or you listen to
the kids now I'm going to play some clips from the teen panel.
Can
Adam Curry: I just say one thing about Castro briefly last night?
The only thing the banker said the former banker said about the
debates was well this should be Castro's Last Stand he should be
out of there by now and I have no idea it came out of the blue
I didn't really ask him about anything he pinpointed Castro
was Castro's got to go and I'm just taking this in for what it
is elite circles etc
John C. Dvorak: he's probably anti bank or something I mean
Castro's not gonna get in anyway. But he's he's not gonna
go after this performance he would most people saw him as
number one. And four listen to what the teens said.
Adam Curry: What is this? Yeah, what is this teens panel what's
going on with
John C. Dvorak: BC put together a panel of teens and millennials
and they're not all teens and most of them college students,
but I'm calling them teens because they sounded like give
you an example of the of the team. Here's a comment from one
of the one of the college panelists this is a guy with a
probably an inflamed and make deal. Trump hater, I'm guessing,
confused in general. And I want you to listen to this guy. And
tell me what he said after after he played his clip, which is
teen panel, weird comments that go nowhere.
Unknown: I'm also very interested in the preventative
care model that a lot of the Democratic candidates that seem
to suggest tonight where we look at the root causes of the issue,
whether that is gun control, or immigration or health care. And
we noticed that there's a lack of economic economic
opportunity. And there's also a lack of care services that are
implemented throughout one's lifetime that might result in
these really terrible social issues.
Adam Curry: What was I supposed to understand that somehow very,
very difficult.
John C. Dvorak: He was just dropping in memes and it was
like it was nonstop and he never really included anything. It was
idiotic, but that but that was the group. This is a bunch of
young college kids. And so I got a couple of things. Here's the
here they're talking about the Spanish that was initiated by
Castro, no Beto know what he taught it is initiated by the
Baito. Beto Beto in the first in the first round of questions
which brought which had me take some notes on it, because
there's a couple of things I noticed one was Amy Klobuchar
when they first turned the camera on her. She was if you
had a 4k TV and you could get a good upscaling, she was shaking
like a leaf. Well,
Adam Curry: I thought Booker's face was pretty funny. When Beto
started doing that Booker's face like
John C. Dvorak: lit up when beta O'Rourke started speaking
Spanish and so then Booker felt he had to speak some Spanish and
of course, the only guy who could really speak perfect
Spanish was Castro. And then other one that were that that
was a pure fail was Tulsi. This would ask the question right off
the bat, her first question was a very specific question. And
instead of even coming close to answering it, she goes off on
her on her creds on her bio her, her you know, her background and
how she went to the war a number of times, she's the only anti
war candidate had nothing to do with it. So she was out and then
the other thing I noticed the major thing I noticed that this
again, would be a NBC staging. There were nobody was using
Apple crates. So you you you saw a midget a dwarf a big tall
dude. I mean, it was horrible looking at
Adam Curry: them. You know, it's interesting, you say that as
I've looked at the shot, and again, I didn't get home until
quarter to 10 as I looked at the shot, like what something's
wrong with this, and I couldn't quite pinpoint it but you just
you just nailed it. They they didn't equalize the candidates.
John C. Dvorak: They didn't have to equalize the shoulder even
No, but a little bit. A little something because you got a six
nine guy there. You got another tall dude. Tulsi is pretty big,
so she held her own but you got a pretty much a borderline dwarf
with klore. Klobuchar, and then Warren is a diminutive, she's a
pity woman. So they needed to put them on a full crate. At
least by
Adam Curry: the way, we're talking as television producers
here not as not as hateful people. This is how television
producers talk. Ladies borderline dwarf get her an
apple crate. Yeah, by the way, I'm I disagree about Tulsi. But
we can get to that later after you're done with
John C. Dvorak: was one of the losers but but so let's listen
to the kids talking about this. About what they thought about
them speaking Spanish.
Unknown: What were some eyeroll moments because I definitely saw
some from you guys. Ariana, I saw a lot from you. When Cory
Booker was talking, I saw a couple like, Oh, God, from you
guys. So what were some of those things that you weren't so
thrilled about?
Adam Curry: When Baito spoke Spanish even like initially, I
don't want to say I didn't like it, but I think it like caught
some people off guard. And you could see even some of the other
candidates were a little shaken up by that. So
I thought that was what Chris expression is trending all over
Twitter.
John C. Dvorak: I think just as the Spanish speaking went on, I
thought that it was great when Baito did it the first time but
then as it continued on with the multiple candidates, I felt like
especially with Booker, it kind of felt like pandering for some
reason it just didn't feel as genuine coming from him. And I
just feel like any moments that didn't feel as genuine coming
from the candidates when we talked about like,
Adam Curry: wait a minute, let me ask you a question. Like is
this like a white valley girl type like girl who has who's
talking about pandering like to brown people she even allowed to
do that doesn't even white privilege? Like is that okay?
John C. Dvorak: Any politics when
the vocal frighten me?
I can't do it. His neighborhood repeatedly. I'm in kind of the
same fashion. For me,
Adam Curry: typical, typical, I got a lot of feedback from the
millennials about this. They thought it was they didn't like
it didn't like any of it. And I'm surprised I'm like, How can
you be so racist? Just using their words.
John C. Dvorak: Listen to this clip retaining I'm sorry,
redeemed debate team. Oh, I'm sorry, yes, I
got it, how we often have to try to balance the two finding jobs
or taking care of the environment and seeing what's
going to happen in the future. So Elizabeth kind of talked
about on the Green Deal, green New Deal tonna helping those who
are within these Indus Dying industries, helping them to
retrain and to newer industries, that way, they're not
necessarily losing their jobs, they are simply moving into
something else that would be able to help not only the
economy but to be able to help the environment. So that's
actually a very interesting perspective.
So So I want to talk about this I'm sorry, I played a clip I
should play it later. I just retraining is was not retaining.
All right. Here's the final clip from these guys. And this is
what they who they think. Well, I know I got two clips from
them. Okay. This is the Dean panel discussion about the
working class.
Unknown: Did you get the specifics on the economic issues
that we talked about in our before in the debate that you
weren't gonna or
I mean, Mayor de Blasio specifically kept talking about
how he wants to shift the Democratic Party back to being
the party of the working class, but never really gave me any,
you know, specific policy solutions for it. And the fact
of the matter is, is that blue collar America is happening in
Pennsylvania, Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, those key states that
the president won in 2016. Because this message resonated
with those kinds of voters. Blue Collar America isn't happening
as much in New York City, as it is in places like that in
places, you know, like me at home in West Virginia. So I felt
like that, you know, a lot of the candidates sort of talked
about, you know, Elizabeth Warren talked about the poor
people, but I felt like it was more about, you know, helping
them as poor people and getting them back on their feet, finding
jobs for them, and putting them into careers where they can
support their families again.
Adam Curry: Well, that's not that I think that's valid.
That's a good point.
John C. Dvorak: I thought that was a very good point.
Adam Curry: All I ever hear is we'll give you money we'll give
we'll fix your problems with money Don't worry about anything
systemic. We'll fix it with money.
John C. Dvorak: Well, some of these young democrats may be
thinking otherwise and I think they're these guys are losing
them. That's why they bring appeal so much. So let's here's
their now this is the finale clip. This is each one of them
saying who they thought won the debate.
Unknown: All right, guys, quick lightning round, who won tonight
in your eyes. We'll start with Valentina and go this way. Who
Leon Castro for actually talking policy?
Who Leon Castro,
Castro for the same reasons. Wow.
Adam Curry: Secretary Castro? I think Warren actually did a good
job. But I do agree. I
Unknown: thought Castro stood out as one of the lesser known
candidates.
I was actually very surprised by Mayor de Blasio those ideas and
his messaging.
Wow. So Castro kind of stole the spotlight and de Blasio K K
model. Awesome.
Adam Curry: Awesome. Thanks, buddy. Thanks for coming.
Everybody. Don't forget you. Don't forget your goodie bag,
your tote bag, your swag bag on the way out awesome boys and
girls. Yeah, yeah. I mean, the fact that we even have to
somehow have to have winners. is dumb is ludicrous. The whole
thing is this ludicrous didn't know winner and he put his fun
10 people on a pedestal. I want to play Tulsi Gabbard, because
I've liked her. And this is if there's any Democrat. I've liked
consistently on this show for years. It's Tulsi Gabbard. Yeah.
And you can call her a loser.
John C. Dvorak: She's a loser in this?
Adam Curry: No, there's no winners. Let's hold hands and
tell the secret. I think what she did with the Ryan character
that Tim Ryan, Ted Ryan, Fred Ryan, Ryan Ryan, I think she she
bought land them good.
Unknown: I've been in Congress, 17 years. And 12 of those years,
I've sat on the Armed Services Committee, either the defense
appropriations committee or the Armed Services Committee. And
the lesson that I've learned over the years is that you have
to stay engaged in these situations. Nobody likes it.
It's long. It's tedious. But right now we have. So I would
say we must be engaged in this, we must have our State
Department engaged, we must have our military engaged to the
state to the extent they need to be if getting a drone shot down
for $130 million. Because the President is distracted. That's
$130 million that we could be spending in places like
Youngstown, Ohio, or Flint, Michigan, or read the building,
Congresswoman Governor building, I'm gonna give you 30 seconds
actually, to jump off what he said he described. Tell the
parents of those two soldiers who were just killed in
Afghanistan. Well, we just have to be engaged. As a soldier, I
will tell you that answer is on by
Adam Curry: the way, what she just did there. I think that's
the most powerful statement she made as a soldier. I'm not quite
sure why Scott Adams might have a better idea. But when she says
as a soldier, her, just the way she looked on stage to who she
is, you got your head kind of goes if you don't know who she
is, like, oh, a soldier and the search data. And I want to
finish this clip to show that she was the most searched for
name after the debate, even during some of the debate, like
across the country. Now it's a Google map. So who the hell
knows? You know, you can't trust anything, but we'll just take it
as a baseline. And I think that for her overall awareness if you
know the shows general consensus is she's raising her profile to
take over a Mazie Hirono gig. I thought it was good. And to me,
this is a she needs to do that more often jurors who
Unknown: were just killed in Afghanistan. Well, we just have
to be engaged. As a soldier, I will tell you that answer is
unacceptable. We have to bring our troops home from
Afghanistan. We are in a place in Afghanistan where we have
lost so many lives. We've spent so much money money that's
coming out of every one of our pockets money that should be
going into communities here at home meeting the needs of the
people here at home. We are no better off I'm in Afghanistan
today than we were when this war began. This is why it's so
important to have a president commander in chief who knows the
cost of war and is ready to do the job on day one. I am ready
to do that job. When I walk into the Oval Office.
Adam Curry: Ryan is in he had a look on his face, man, he's
pissed off. So he does get 30 seconds. So you felt like she
was refunding? You get 30 seconds. I appreciate that. I
hear what you're saying. Thank you, Chuck, just say,
Unknown: I don't want to be engaged. I wish we were spending
all this money in places that I've represented that have been
completely forgotten, and we were rebuilding. But the reality
of it is that the United States isn't engaged. The Taliban will
grow and they won't have bigger, bolder terrorist acts. We have
got to have some present there. Is this out there long before we
came in there? Exactly. Well, we keep us blind to Afghanistan
thinking that we're going to somehow squash this Taliban. I
didn't wash them when we weren't in there. They started flying
planes into our buildings. So I'm just saying right now. They
didn't attack us on 911. Well, I'll try that.
Adam Curry: Guy was protected. I thought that was fantastic.
John C. Dvorak: Well, that was good. But anyone could have done
that because it guy's full of shit. That guy. She's
Adam Curry: a soldier.
John C. Dvorak: So he goes on with Yeah, the Taliban attack
does Okay. Sure. It has done nothing. It takes soldiers over
there. But the guy's a bonehead. He's out. He's out. He's
eliminated permanently for saying that.
Adam Curry: I like Tulsi I thought she finally brought a
little bit of fire. She needs to dialed up another 100%. And she
could go somewhere.
John C. Dvorak: I am not going anywhere in this election. She
is going into the Senate which is worse, which should be a good
spot. Somebody's got to get rid of this other woman.
Adam Curry: I got to root for somebody.
John C. Dvorak: Well, you should have routed for your old
Adam Curry: pal. No, it's not my old pal, Julian. And this and I
find it from a from an American perspective. This truly is this
all the Spanish speaking is truly. I mean, why don't we just
speak some Somali? Yeah, there's a whole bunch of groups we can
talk to. Why don't everyone just get your Rosetta stone and bone
up on it? I mean, come on. Today. You I find it insulting?
I really do. It's just like, because I know who you're
talking to. Yeah, talking to Americans. You're talking to
illegal immigrants. People who are in America who are Mexican,
Spanish, South American, they speak and understand English.
John C. Dvorak: That was exactly right. That is the reason I
don't see why doesn't make it even more transparent. The whole
point of letting as many illegals in as possible. And
then speaking in Spanish, you get him to vote you and then you
can kick him out afterwards. This is the kind of
Adam Curry: there was a there was a hilarious, hilarious video
on no agenda. social.com Yeah. I think it was yeah, uh, I think
Castro speaking maybe was better when it during his thing. And
there's subtitles, which say, according to the Muller report,
no agenda show is the best podcast in the universe. And I
felt I felt pretty left out and I understand kind of what he's
saying what they're saying when they do this. No, this just I
mean, I could not imagine this happening in any other country.
And people would be up in arms. Here's like, oh, you speak
Spanish? I think most Americans are actually impressed. Wow, he
speaks another language.
John C. Dvorak: That's odd. But it's a strange sound coming from
his mouth, maybe speaking in tongues.
Adam Curry: But yeah, in combination with with everything
about immigration, then it's just it's clear what you're
doing. I mean, and that's one way of viewing it. But ah, now
I've been rear ended by by illegals in Austin. With my
truck that is I am around they speak English. They really do.
Anyway,
John C. Dvorak: so looking at some of the tweets from the
Democrats is funny how the Democrats really come out and
they really take you to be a little show business Democrats,
I'm talking about the Hollywood elites. And they come on they're
just you know, just pretty blunt. Seth McFarland
candidates, please stop yelling. We are all on the same side.
Adam Curry: What's the point of a debate then?
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, that's what exactly what's the point?
Me a pharaoh. All the topic being discussed by these
candidates are are important. I feel proud to be a Democrat. It
will flag
Adam Curry: the banker was saying he said, The interesting
take on he says it. This is why He said there's no reason to
watch it. He said what Trump had and what Trump did as he took
the two issues that no Republican would take on at the
time, believe it or not, it was immigration, and China. And he
just because he had those two things, which everyone knows is
common sense. Everybody, all sides, all Americans. And he
just yelled those over and over again and forced everybody into
it. You'll recall the immigration debate was forced by
Trump. And that's
John C. Dvorak: all Trump takes credit for it his team, it
reminds us of that right? Before me, no one's even talking about
this. And now everybody's talking.
Adam Curry: That's how you that's how these days a
political debate. That's how you get the point is you've got to
choose something that no one else really wants to talk about,
and then yell loudly over everybody else. That's what
Trump did. He took two main main issues. And then he was he was
the winner from day one on that and just kept hammering and
hammering and hammering and everyone sees the logic of it,
but everyone's afraid, was afraid. Well, there's
John C. Dvorak: also a number of people who said I don't
understand why they didn't go after Trump more even though
they did a little bit. Jay Inslee, I said he said something
that negative jay Inslee, by the way, was the guy standing next
to the right of Tulsi. Yeah, he's the governor from
Washington State who's has a one issue thing drum lb which is
climate change. And he he had a shit eating grin on his face
from the get go and he just kept it plastered on there. So when
you saw the camera angle with with Tulsi yakking about
something or even anyone down the row, and you saw they kind
of nicked his face at that half profile, but just a front and
you could see this dumb smile he had on his face. I thought it
was like So I've mentioned this to me. So no, that's that he
always has a dumb
Adam Curry: resting bitchface
John C. Dvorak: is stupid. Anyway. Well, I found the whole
thing to be tedious. No doubt. It was a little tedious.
Luckily, it was only two hours. I think tonight's will be a
little better. Who
Adam Curry: has the debate tonight? Is that CNN? Is it CNN
that that is airing tonight, or is it MSNBC? You
John C. Dvorak: gotta think it's got to ask. It has to be the
same people.
Adam Curry: So tonight we have Biden, we have Bernie and we
have is Buddha judge on this one tonight or is he not? Is he not?
No, he's on the mayor Pete is in trouble, man. I mean, I don't
know if you follow this shooting in his town. And his Hamlet
where he is he is Mayor. So it's only only about 100,000 people
in the town. And I actually have a little report about it. But
the main thing is every single time they have video and audio
or anything from Mayor Pete in the situation. He has his head
bowed down. He can't really talk. He's almost like he's been
like he's been gut punched. And I will if you listen to this
clip, I have my reasoning as to why he feels so downtrodden. We
have
Unknown: tried but not succeeded to increase diversity in the
police department. And we need help.
At home in South Bend, Indiana Buda judge was confronted by
accusations of bias in his city's police force.
Racism is starting up police departments How are we supposed
to? I am raising a seven year old grandson that when he sees
the police he is afraid that is not what's supposed to happen.
Racial tensions
flared last week after a white South Bend Police officers shot
and killed a black man who was allegedly holding a knife. The
officer was wearing a body camera but it was not turned on.
If anyone who was on patrol is shown to be a racist, or to do
something racist. In a way that is substantiated. That is their
last day on the street.
Adam Curry: Wrong answer Mayor Pete
John C. Dvorak: Buddha judge dropped off the campaign trail
after the shooting last week.
Unknown: I just think it's my job. I don't know if it's smart
or not. I don't know if it's strategic or not.
Adam Curry: But yeah, he's actually upset that he's out of
the race. That's really what he's upset about. I'm just going
to call it he doesn't give a crap. I don't think he's he
seems like a very ineffective leader.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, well he I'm gonna I'm gonna call you can
call that like you're right. But he never was in the race to any
extent statics that does novelty novelty act Yes.
Adam Curry: One of the one of the spook novelties, spook
John C. Dvorak: novelty, he's not in the race for president
anyway, he wants to move up to the statehouse or this
government governor or a senator just like Tulsi, there are these
people. And I don't know how many of them are running that
are on this. But who I'd put in this category, those two for
sure. They're just running to raise their public profile, get
some free airtime and then run for Senate or something else.
Adam Curry: It does have all the candidates. Is there a single
black American?
John C. Dvorak: I think Booker is
Adam Curry: he's Brown, but is he? Is he a DOS? Or is he is a
Dodge? I'm not so sure. I'll have to look into it.
John C. Dvorak: I'd be surprised if he wasn't.
Adam Curry: Well, tonight should be just as dumb. Honestly,
John C. Dvorak: no, tonight, it'll be better. It'll be great.
I think tonight will be great because they got you're gonna
have to deal with Bernie.
Adam Curry: Sorry, Bernie, I wanted to play a little jingle
about Bernie an old, an old
John C. Dvorak: socialist Jews. That's right, everybody.
Adam Curry: Bernie's got a big black problem. Oh, yes, he does.
He's got a huge black problem. I have a clip.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. That's why he'll never that's why he can't
can't win. Now. I got another bunch of panelists that came up
on NBC that talked about the debates and I kind of
concentrated on NBC because they gave the debates, they had
people backstage, they had the whole thing going on. And there
was they've got three clips. One of them is the most important
one, I think was because they read they introduced or one of
the panelists introduced this term, which was actually brought
up by I can't remember which of the guys up there.
Adam Curry: Oh, I know exactly what you're talking about. But
John C. Dvorak: the term is repressed justice. It was
beautiful. And I were doing it was one of the panelists that
threw it out there. I was AMI or Santa who was the dude, it was a
dude. And then it was it was de Blasio. Yeah, troll room? I
know. Yeah, I think it was de Blasio, whatever was just a
little discussion of it.
Adam Curry: The posts, the post show discussion, yeah, post
show.
Unknown: It is also related to making sure that you can raise
your family in a safe community, that you have access to health
care throughout that child's life and your own life, and that
they can rise up the socio economic ladder. So it's a more
holistic approach. And that was a radical moment to say
reproductive justice. Yes. And I think I mean, Hillary Clinton
did talk about reproductive justice in the 2016 campaign for
his speech to Planned Parenthood, but I cannot recall
her saying those words in a debate, and that's a big moment.
So what did you think, Jackie?
I mean, did you feel like the issue the women's rights and the
issue around abortion was adequately addressed by the
candidate? Yeah, I do. And I really did appreciate Amy
Klobuchar Zinger, but yeah, you all. There, man, but perhaps a
little bit, so he did make a pretty bold when he was really
accurate and claim that yeah, he was the only person to predict
abortion rights and which, you know, meanwhile, there are there
were three female candidates on the stage who have also pretty
much dedicated women the same length for legislation. Yeah.
But what I'm actually really curious is to see Joe Biden
answer that question tomorrow. And I was actually pretty
surprised that Biden's name didn't come up during that
conversation, because he is the one candidate who has been a bit
behind the curve, especially in the conversation of reproductive
justice, because he hasn't seemed to understand that a lot
of the issues around reproductive justice
disproportionately affects women of color or US panel, the Hyde
Amendment. Exactly. And you know, there was that reporting
that his top female advisors had to educate him on why it was
important for him to change his mind and flip flop on the Hyde
Amendment because it disproportionately affect
communities of color. And
Adam Curry: I'm so happy to hear these white women talking about
reproductive justice as I read from the Wikipedia on the
subject, reproductive justice is the human rights to maintain
personal bodily autonomy, have children not have children and
parent the children we have in safe and sustainable
communities. And this is according to sister song women
of color, reproductive justice collective, the first
organization founded to build a reproductive justice movement.
And let's see, yeah, this is a all done by black women. They've
set this up and they doesn't sound exactly the way they are
talking about it. The white women I hear here.
John C. Dvorak: Well, it's kind of morphed because you know, we
we've talked about this on the show, and people should realize
that we see the difference. it and it's not my it was somebody
else who brought this up years ago and it shows they did you
realize this is what it's all about. The Democrats are four, I
have two themes justice. So the drop the word justice on
anything, it's great justice and equality and the Republicans are
freedom and liberty. And so you'll see in their literature,
either side, you'll find a lot of references to freedom and
liberty on the Republican side or the conservative side. And
you'll see a lot of references to justice and equality to the
point, which is a problem for the Democrats, because equality
leads to egalitarianism, which leads to situations like they
have in Sweden, where people don't understand that not
everybody's in the egalitarian and you bring in a bunch of
outsiders who don't believe in this sort of thing. And you have
all kinds of issues. And egalitarianism is a serious
problem, generally speaking, justice is what it is. Freedom
and Liberty is kind of both kind of variations of the same theme.
Well,
Adam Curry: as you just heard that term the way it was used
reproductive justice, could you sum it up in one sentence what
that is, I mean, I have it here. So I'm curious what you think
just having heard that. What do you think that means?
Reproductive justice, what is that definition?
John C. Dvorak: I think it means freedom to do raise kids the way
you want.
Adam Curry: Reproductive Justice focuses on abortion access,
rather than abortion rights, asserting that the legal right
to abortion is meaningless for women who cannot access it due
to cost distance, or other obstacles. So no one's using it.
Right. They're just throwing throwing it around.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, whether you're right, if that's the
case, because if it's just an abortion issue, there again,
though, the Democrats do this. They take the word justice, and
they drop it here and they drop it there. And then when they do
I was, oh, they all get worked up about it. And this is another
example of that. But it's going to be in the in the in play.
It's in now in play. Yes. And I believe it will become in play
during the presidential. The Republicans and one of the
reasons I think we like to do this show and have a lot of we
have a lot of Republican listeners or conservatives is
that they won't get caught off guard. I think a lot of
Republicans and conservatives will get caught off guard when
the
Adam Curry: it's a strong term is a great word productive. Just
just just put justice up. Yeah. It's just to put the word
justice anywhere. Podcast, Justice people. That's what we
need.
John C. Dvorak: Podcast justice.
Adam Curry: And then when and when you hear that, you're like
shit, I can't refute that. podcasters need justice know
what it means. Who cares? Who cares? podcasters need justice.
John C. Dvorak: Here's another thing a little bit more about, I
think that was the reproductive justice clip, once you play the
Joe Biden apologizing clip,
these are my personal beliefs. But I recognize what the rest of
the content was out of me. And I like to try to meet the country
where they are. And I think Joe Biden needs to sort of
articulate that tomorrow. How do you do that stylistically, so
that you still convey authenticity. This is why
I'm not a press.
I think it's difficult, right? For Joe Biden, you can say,
Look, I'm a cat. Yeah, this is what I believe there are many
real at 70 plus percent of Americans consider themselves as
Christians. So he's not alone. A lot of people have that belief.
However, I do understand the importance of women's
reproductive rights. And I want to make sure that I'm on the
side of women's Simple,
Unknown: right, but there is no, because when you apologize, one,
then when does your Biden start apologizing for everything? And
Anita Hill? Justice, Phil, I
would argue the things your list, he does need to. But I do
think that that's the trick. When you have a long record,
it's like when you have this decades long record, you're
gonna have a lot to explain. And I think that, you know, the
crime bill is another thing that's going to come up, it came
up for Hillary Clinton even though she wasn't in office. But
Joe Biden wrote that crime bill, and now there's a lot of black
people in prison as a result. And so he's going to have to
speak to that constituency. And explain, you know, I didn't see
these these circumstances. I didn't foresee it by evolution,
you know,
Adam Curry: yeah, that's not gonna work. No one's gonna fall
for that. I didn't know how it was. I didn't know that what the
policy would do. Oh, no, I'm sorry.
John C. Dvorak: I think that he's got the same black problem
that Bernie has. Well, why well, this is bringing in Kamala
Harris. Bye bye. This is an irony Kamla Harris is not
respected by blacks, generally speaking, a dice black so and
But Bernie doesn't I'm not Bernie. Actually, Bernie and
Biden. Neither one of them know this. They don't get to have a
clue. I mean, well, let's be real.
Adam Curry: Allow me to play a clip about Bernie from Antonio,
more from a DOS.
John C. Dvorak: One of y'all. This is Antonio, more coming to
you from tone talks coming to you briefly with a quick hit,
because I got no notification that Bernie Sanders is talking
about forgiving all the student debt. While on one hand, you can
see that it's totally commendable. If you don't give
it context, you don't understand that this is the same man that
has talked about not giving cash payment for reparations, that's
talked about the cost of reparations, I understand that
student debt is forgiven a one and a half trillion dollars in
debt, and primarily will go to white folks, because of the
amount of them they go to college versus us.
Fundamentally, my belief is that even as somebody who has six
figures in student debt, that you don't forgive that debt
until you until you make your debts whole. And regarding
reparations, don't give black families reparations to white
middle class and white upper class families that took on
student debt. It just doesn't work that way I say to you
today, what I believe should happen is that Bernie Sanders
should come out and support a reparations first, that Bernie
Sanders should commit to a $10 trillion reparations plan to be
paid over 10 years, trillion a year only to aid also American
descendants of slavery to make these families Hall and to
guarantee an apology for slavery if he does become president.
After that, you can do a one and a half trillion dollar student
loan forgiveness plan, which I'll be in full support of. So,
Adam Curry: you know, he, Elizabeth Warren Kamala Harris,
and does Biden support the canceling of student debt yet?
Is he? Is he on the debt train? Or is he done?
John C. Dvorak: No, he has not actually. And I could be wrong.
But as far as I know, he's not and I don't think he will.
Adam Curry: And by the way, this is the one of the main figures
of the American descendants of slavery, he, what he's doing is
YouTube from his car. And I said, this sent a message out
said, you know, you really should get on a stage, this is
not just not going to get attention doing YouTube's from
your car. That is not how you get a movement from their car.
It's not how you get a movement going. So doesn't matter. They
don't need you got everybody else. And you know, the student
debt cancellation is beautiful air all the kids love it. Oh,
the kids, except for the kids who chose not to go to college,
who were saying, Whoa,
John C. Dvorak: where are the kids who paid off their student
debts? You're not going to be too pleased with this as the
problem with this kind of, you know, Jubilee, or any kind of
dead holiday. It's like, wait a minute, so I should have just
been, you know, a slouch and never paid anything, and I'd be
home free. That's what you're saying. You're encouraging that.
That's why it doesn't work.
Adam Curry: Well, here. Here's what was interesting. Last
night, my dinner with a former New York banker. He schooled me
on MMT which I know you've been looking into which is this
modern monetary theory. Yeah. And the idea is, you can print a
hell of a lot more money as than we're doing right now. Because
it doesn't matter. And he made a very compelling argument, which
I can't really he compared it to Japan, really. He says, Look,
what do you call it a liquidity trap? He says it turns out and
he knows I mean, he was in the sovereign wealth sector. So he
knows he knows a lot about global economics. He said, We
can print trillions more, it does not matter. And no matter
how I parade it, he had an answer. And I know you've looked
into it, and it seems that, unlike what everyone from the
Austrian School of Economics thinks that it does indeed work
and that we can we could fund the debt cancellation, we could
put in another 30 trillion into green New Deal. We could do some
reparations, we could do anything we want, because it
does not matter. Your take Jhansi Dvorak?
John C. Dvorak: Well, I think people are looking at this our
modern monetary theory, they're looking at it from the wrong
perspective. First of all, it's not about how much money's in
circulation or anything like that. It's about income
inequality. And if you listen to the people that promote this
idea, and you can just draw it and he's right, it doesn't
matter. I don't think it does either. Because then it's not
going to matter when it comes to when it comes to the fact that
there's an income in fact, it may worsen income inequality,
based on the economic cycle. And based on what the this woman, I
think her name is Slotkin or something like that. And she is
the economic policy person for Bernie and she's one of the big
promoters of MMT. And she made this comment once and that's
what stuck with me. And when she said it, I said, Wait a minute,
Oh, I thought it was just a dog whistle comment, but it to use
that term. But then I realized it's not. She said, income
inequality was lessening, it was getting better. It was getting
better and better and better until 1980. That's the dog
whistle. 1980 is a codeword for Reagan.
Adam Curry: Trickle down trickle down.
John C. Dvorak: Reagan And the Republicans got in and then then
the income inequality got worse and worse. And then you if you
look at the cycles, apparently it was worsening just before the
depression, which is the giveaway in 1929 income
inequality Your night 28 It was horrible. And then the
Depression came 1980 is the end of another depression that took
place in the 70s. In other words, these folks their whole
orientation, I have a presentation, I could write up
their whole orientations. Yes, put us into an economic Tailspin
sink the economy, so everybody's broke, then you have no income
inequality, it's all evened out. And I'm reminded of the one of
the Koch brothers, I think it was David, it had a special on
him on one of these networks. And he said, We were almost a
bankrupt company in the 1970s. Everybody in the 1970s was going
broke, there was no wealth, whatsoever, I went through it.
And it was that's when income inequality, you know, starts to
shrink. Course it does, because everybody's broke. And then 1980
comes along, and it says, prosperity starts to grow and
grow and grow, income inequality starts to grow and grow. And
that's just going to always be the case. So unless you want to
put us in a perpetual depression, where every buddy's
broke,
Adam Curry: right, but it's the Democrats who are who are saying
this, so you'd expect them the more socialist individuals of
our society to want everyone to be depressed and broke. And
maybe they want that, but they do. But but they want us all to
be broke. But what they're saying is the opposite will have
the opposite effect.
John C. Dvorak: Well, they're wrong.
Adam Curry: It didn't matter what I said he had an answer.
That's kind of his MO, sometimes, anyway, you met him.
But the one thing we did agree on, was, how awful the removal
of the ordinance rules in Austin is that now people can pitch
tents on the sidewalk. But here's, here's what he added to
it. He said, although it's horrible, and and it turns out
that our Governor Abbott, he tweeted out that he was going to
oh, he was going to make some laws to stop this. He said, we
can't have this, if any, if any Texas City thinks they can do
that. We're going to write legislation to stop it. The
banker said, Actually, having homeless living on the street or
the unhoused is a sign of great wealth of great wealth of the
society. Because we are so wealthy but let's just say
California but we'll add awesome to the mix. So prosperous,
prosperous, that we don't care if people are pooping on the
streets. Go ahead, poop what you want. Everything's great.
John C. Dvorak: So we're so his theory is that that that is a
sign of great prosperity, prosperity and decadence. Yes,
exactly. Which is exact so decadent yet you don't give a
crap. Yeah, people are pooping. Hey, well, okay, let's get into
limo Louise. I think we're this poor homeless trap. This
pathetic soul poops in front of us. Oh,
Adam Curry: I think it is the term that what is the term?
We're so wealthy. We don't give a shit. I think I think that's
what it comes down to. You can do one on the street. And he has
a point.
John C. Dvorak: Look at California actually hit one
there.
Adam Curry: I thought it was out of the park as I stopped the
conversation. I gotta write this down. I can't believe you just
said that. And even though we don't like it, it truly shows
you in a elitist, very wealthy society. It may be equitable to
the Romans or maybe the Wi Fi Republic had a lot of the stuff
going on before we well let's
John C. Dvorak: let's crazy it some solid examples. In San
Francisco, the poop map and all the rest of it began after
Twitter, Jack Dorsey. And the folks on new theirs. They had a
bunch of porta potties near not in front, not on the street, but
near the Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. And it was and it
was this, oh, we can't have these porta potties it just it
makes a bunch of homeless around them and they get in line and
have to poop there. I'd rather I'd rather not see the porta
potties that are just a little bit too much for me. So just get
rid of those, get rid of those ugly things and let the homeless
go somewhere else.
Adam Curry: Well, the sad part of it all, is the only solutions
that they'll throw out there cavalierly is we need affordable
housing, which is just more money for them. I own that
pieces. Put some affordable housing on that. Yeah, this is a
good idea. And it jacks up the rents everywhere moves people
out gentrifying Yeah, I can't I cannot get a wage in right.
John C. Dvorak: I'm loving this idea of the argument that's just
rich, decadent elites don't care if anybody's dying and Louise
was that a dead man you stepped over? Dead.
Adam Curry: Oh my Is he breathing?
John C. Dvorak: Well, you you kick in for me, Bruce and find
out. Oh,
Adam Curry: it kind of blew my mind with that.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. I mean, I'm all in on that one. What's
going on? Because that's what we're seeing. Yeah. At
Lamborghini dealer and then as a guy pooping I mean, come on,
Adam Curry: and the wealth is gone to our heads. It's gone to
our heads. Because the people who aren't super rich and don't
mind this now feel kind of powerless. Yeah, I'm doing okay,
let me just not rock the boat here. I'm just gonna I'll just
step over it. Yeah, I'm fortunate. I've got privilege.
And by the way, most people pooping on the streets of Austin
are white. Just so you know. How about just during the debates,
was there any green New Deal crap because I got a couple of
clips from from Europe that I want to share with you.
John C. Dvorak: And I didn't pick anything up particularly. I
mean, they didn't really get into it. There were mostly I
don't know it. I think there'll be something tonight. But they
didn't get into it too much. I mean, the guy who would have
gotten into was Inslee, because he's pretty much
Adam Curry: Oh, shoot. I just had an idea. I'm sorry. I just
want to go back to the homelessness thing. Let's just
take it for true that this is the incredible wealth and what
were the words some of the terms we used the acronym in decades
decadence now that pooping on the streets? Yeah. decadence.
This you know what this calls for this calls for a reality
show. You know, lifting someone from the street, you know, this
disc people will love that. I mean, it's like your town could
be next week story.
John C. Dvorak: What? Yeah, Pygmalion, uh, you know, My Fair
Lady, you get somebody's just
Adam Curry: trading places, trading places. Trading Places.
That's it. That's it. All right. So so yeah, so there wasn't a
lot of green New Deal is what I'm what I'm hearing. I didn't I
didn't see any actually in my scan. Couple of climate changes,
maybe but nothing substantial. But
John C. Dvorak: it was It wasn't, you know? Well, it
didn't get. I mean, they're still they're still this is what
gets me. There's a large group of Democrats that are bitching
and moaning about the fact and they didn't want to bring it up,
I think because they're worried about getting tossed. Because
they're not supposed to discuss climate change as it as a
debate. They want to debate climate change. Now, of course,
there's a bunch of Democrats that want to actually have one
of the debates just be about climate change. And I'm thinking
to myself, who what, what would that be like? Everybody in the
Democrat Party is in on the on the whole idea that we're going
to all die in 12 years. And so there wouldn't be much of a
debate. They just be a lot of agreement. Now head nodding.
Exactly.
Adam Curry: Well, over in the UK, there's, there's a big push.
Once again, this is all on the backdrop of the G 20, which
we'll talk about which is taking place this weekend. But Sky News
really stuck out to the British people with this little expo's
a, and a new term, or a term that is being rejuvenated, was
introduced to the lexicon.
Unknown: In the 18th century, the Industrial Revolution
kickstarted economic growth, and modern capitalism, but only at
the cost of pumping out millions of tons of carbon into the
atmosphere as the years ticked on by from iron and steel
production, to coal and steam power plants and factories. And
for centuries, Britain was the only name in the game, the
world's economic engine, the world's richest economy, and by
far, the world's biggest polluter, but just look at what
happens at the start of the 20th century, America finally begins
to overtake us. But these ever increasing bars tell another
story, the richer we've got, the more we've polluted. And it all
comes back to the fact that we never put a price on waste until
now. Because with scientists predicting a climate
catastrophe, and with China pumping, ever more pollution
into the atmosphere, the greatest challenge of the next
century is going to be managing this carbon debt. The debt that
Britain started
Adam Curry: alright Britain, it's your fault, first of all,
so we're looking at you. Second climate debt. I like this. This
could be now this is a financial instrument. Now they finally
done it. You could be born and the government could place a
climate debt on your head. And you would have to work that off
during your life. You would have to do things to remove your
climate debt. I haven't have you heard this term?
John C. Dvorak: I think I might have heard it, along with
climate justice using That term again as as kind of a they're
fishing loosely they're fishing they got to these terms and
they're throwing them out there see what happens? Yeah me habit
a bit would would have been a while back.
Adam Curry: So they're shaming the British people into into
this climate debt corner. And with that comes an open letter
from us an open letter from investors with $34 trillion
worth of assets just ready to invest.
Unknown: Europe is braced for a record breaking heatwave
temperatures forecast to hit 40 degrees Celsius across much of
the continent. For many it's yet another sign of global warming.
Now some of the world's top investors are joining calls for
action. money managers responsible for $34 trillion in
assets have signed a joint letter demanding change.
Together they account for nearly half the world's invested
capital. signatories include Legal and General investment
management, and CalPERS California's public employees
retirement fund, but the world's two biggest asset managers are
missing from the list BlackRock and Vanguard wouldn't give
specific reasons for not signing. Now the letter comes
days before a G 20. Summit in Japan, the investors call on
governments to work with them on action against climate change.
They support the Paris Agreement on global warming struck in
2015. It calls on governments to keep average temperature rises
to less than two degrees above pre industrial levels, yet the
world is on track for an average increase of at least three
degrees by the end of the century. In Europe right now. It
feels a whole lot hotter than that.
Adam Curry: So the way I read this open letter is these are
government. Quasi government investors. It's not BlackRock
and Vanguard is not the commercial guys. They're not
stupid. I'm not putting my money in that. But the California
government employees is pension fund. What was it?
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, PERS. CalPERS. Yeah, that's, that's,
Adam Curry: that's, um, that's like government almost, isn't
it?
John C. Dvorak: No, it's a big giant. And if you work for the
state or regional governments, a lot of cities I think even the
the money goes into CalPERS as a, it's like a selective
Retirement System. Right.
Adam Curry: But they so they want to put your retirement
money at risk in this cockamamie climate to change
John C. Dvorak: in California, and they're suckers. They're
dumb. And then let me make a point that I want to just, I
don't like I don't like the Bill Gates. thing where you make a
bunch of rich guys pledge Haftar. Well, the Warren Buffett
pledge, the Warren Buffett pledge This is the you know, I
don't like I never liked it. I really disliked Grover Norquist.
And he had this piece of paper he made Republicans conservative
side during I think it was some during Bush's administration.
And it was a tax pleasure. You never raise taxes. And you knew
right this you sign this pledge. I don't like people signing
these pledges. I don't like organizations signing him. I
think it's like, you're, why are you doing it? Don't you have no
control over your own future? You owe me? Why am I why would I
be shamed in the same worth to have a wish worth 10 billion,
and I'm now going to be shamed into signing away 5 billion of
this. Oh, that's easy one. It's dumb
Adam Curry: now, but this isn't this has nothing to do with
cars. Well,
John C. Dvorak: first of all, I do realize that for example, I
do remember when Ted Turner pledged like, you know, billion
dollars to some universities and like that, and then he just
reneged you if you get worth $10 billion, you can sign anything
you want and just say Screw you. And don't do it and which but
then again now,
Adam Curry: that's not what's happening. But what's happening
with those guys is different. You know, very wealthy people. I
mean, really wealthy people. I know very wealthy people. And
people with so much wealth, who can and have purchased anything
they want any kind of love, but they can't get respect from the
people. So what's the virtue signal? They want to be liked?
John C. Dvorak: Please Like I'm not gonna argue I don't care how
much money
Adam Curry: I have to pledge just like me. I don't want
people look at me sideways, please like me.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I understand. And that's probably
exactly what is but that's not my point. My point is that
nobody should be signing pledges like this, and especially
government employees who are site who signed that Grover
Norquist thing. If I got a representative working for me
and sees the state senator or whatever, I want him to be
beholding to the pub Look that voted him in. I don't want him
being beholden to some guy Grover Norquist. I think it's
like, what what are you pledging to this guy for? You're working
for me,
Adam Curry: right? No argument there. Final thing on the New
York banker? He has, he has he said all you know, he'd read
some article which he sent to me, which I haven't read yet
about grid calculations. And it turns out that you really don't
need that much. Gas to pick up the slack on wind, and solar has
all these grid calculations. And turns out it really works. And
you don't need unlike that sounds like bull crap. And he
just was going on and on. And then we got into an argument. He
said, Well, as you know, DC power is much more efficient to
transmit. I'm like, stop. What? That please tell me that's
wrong. I mean, I just can't. I mean, no, DC power is not more
efficient to transmit over lines, is it?
John C. Dvorak: DC power is more efficient in a lot of things.
For sure. Yep. In your house. So if long range transmission is
one of them, I don't believe it is.
Adam Curry: No, they can't be Tesla and Edison thought about.
John C. Dvorak: Yes. And it had to do with transmission, I
believe, at the end of the day. Yeah, I've gotta get this
Adam Curry: I'll send you that article. We got we got to
deconstruct this because all of a sudden he's all in on wind and
solar works and like and you know, that means someone else in
the in the elite circles is thinking it. He's never going to
take me out to dinner after you hear this.
John C. Dvorak: I assure you will convince you you're wrong.
Wrong.
Adam Curry: Wrong again, curry. And with that, I would like to
thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you the
man who put the sea in the climate debt John C. Devorah.
John C. Dvorak: Me goes in the morning to you all the ships to
see boots on the ground, feet in the air subsidy, water and all
the names and
Adam Curry: s in the morning to the trolls and the troll room
that's to be found and open and available for everybody know
agenda stream.com It's not just our show. We do it live on
Sundays and Thursdays and you can troll along and make really
funny one liners and virtue signal, do anything you want
there. Go ahead and bring it while you're listening to the
live stream but you can do it 24/7 Because it's always cool
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morning, a to our artiste for episode 1149. The title of that
was couple of reds. And this was created by Mike Riley. We had a
number of choices. We we selected the I guess I'd made a
comment that Robert De Niro in that Trump hate video looked
like something the cat had puked up like a hairball. Yes. He made
a piece of art that looked like a cat a giant cat that just
puked out Robert De Niro. And we kind of liked it. It had it, it
was good. Cheap laugh cheap. Last Laugh now.
John C. Dvorak: I'm looking, by the way I'm looking back at to
get some art for the newsletter. And I realize that we haven't
heard from the Thorin, one of our most longtime Yes, you're
right, or
Adam Curry: I think he's overboard. Could be could be,
I'll tell you. So I'm gonna
John C. Dvorak: start finding I'm gonna see other ones that
I've noticed that are just kind of went overboard, or they're
stopped producing, or they just gave up. So so he already had a
lot of hits. And it was like, but he just stopped.
Adam Curry: I was I was out in the front yard yesterday. And my
neighbor Steve comes over. Now as you know, we moved into this
beautiful little area, small little cul de sac. And I'm not
walking around at any for any reason in Austin going, Yeah, I
got a podcast, you should listen. You know, it's like, I
don't know what people are thinking. Yeah, but we plan to
live here for a long time. And I want people you know, you listen
to you listen to our show for 15 minutes. Now, let's some people
may get the wrong impression. So I'd never mentioned anything.
Steve comes over. He says, Hey, I was on the honeymoon. Steve's
a Vietnam vet. He's I think he's probably around 70 in the 70s
retired. And if that was your honeymoon, yeah, it's great.
Right? Well, you know, I gotta tell you what, I'm a douchebag.
What? says yeah, I'm a douchebag. I've been listening
to your show. Alright. Okay. I really like it. He says, I don't
like Trump said I want America to win. So I thought people hate
Trump, but that was funny. You guys are good. Wow. How about
that?
John C. Dvorak: Wow, the next door neighbor?
Adam Curry: Yeah, thank goodness. Steve.
John C. Dvorak: I think Steve Jobs Hopper he's the guy grown
pot now.
Adam Curry: Yes to all of those No, the cops. I haven't
approached the cop yet. She, she's cool. It's an awesome
couple for you, police officer and a heavy metal drummer. It
doesn't get much better than that. Anyway, so
John C. Dvorak: they heavy metal drummers, the guy who came up to
you know, Steve
Adam Curry: is the veteran is the Vietnam vet from the, from
the other side
John C. Dvorak: next door neighbor. I'm sorry, AC and next
door. Yeah, he's
Adam Curry: on the other side.
John C. Dvorak: Late, but you got to cop and a heavy metal
drummer. They're living together. Yes. That's a couple
of this is what confused me. Ya
Adam Curry: know, that's one side and the other side is the
new lives with not just partner but his friend. And that's also
a vet. He's a Iraq Iraq War vet. So I think they're just they
just share the house. Right. But everything about Steve didn't
tell me that he was going to, you know, hear any anything
about Trump and like it so I don't mention these things to
people.
John C. Dvorak: So he's a big old unreconstructed hippie
Democrat. Possibly. Yeah.
Adam Curry: But not an anti. I mean, he went to war for us. He
served the country. So he's not not that much of a hippie
Democrat. But I don't know if he's anything other than my
neighbor and a nice guy. Then he's a douchebag said Now,
Steve. You're the emergency contact for anything happening
here. You're not a douchebag ever. There you go. Well,
welcome to the show. Steve. Sweet tale. Yes, thank you.
John C. Dvorak: Oh, can you talk just a split second longer so I
can go get the paperwork.
Adam Curry: Okay. Yes. And kind of all
John C. Dvorak: the bankers say
Adam Curry: the banker didn't have that much else to say. But
yeah. Yeah. tepary That's all I can all I can remember peppery
is whatever. I came to the I came to the to the meeting today
with all my stuff in order you know, and I'm you know,
John C. Dvorak: you know, pros can fill Alright, here we go. So
let's go with our number one guy today's Sir Not sir on amis. Oh,
he's back of dog put Yo, he's every month it comes in
Adam Curry: Serrano Dogpatch and Lois LeBeau. Via everybody.
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John C. Dvorak: 112 $100. To $2.
Adam Curry: This is 202 Holy crap. Now again, we have no idea
what the what the meaning is of this? Did he send you a note
with it? Of course. We know he loved his long one. And we love
his No.
John C. Dvorak: Thank you too. And the many producers that make
this show the best podcast in the universe. By mailing rather
than emailing I'm avoiding AI flagging this statement as hate
speech. After all, it claims all other podcasts are inferior.
Adam Curry: Yeah, that is hate speech is true. It's
John C. Dvorak: hate speech. It's true. On a recent show you
disgust offering naming rights for Adams new studio. Okay, here
we go. This is what he's about this lecture. Here we go. naming
rights are a complicated matter. Can the name be offensive? Can
it be commercial sponsored by a firm with his baggage? How long
does it continue? A show a week? a month? A quarter? What if two
sponsors want to same show for their anniversary birthday or
other special day? What is the minimum price for naming? Should
it be more than a knighting? More or less than executive
producer ship? After reflecting on these issues? And on Adams
commiserating that dogs, dog waste, homelessness, scooters
and millennials drove him from the town centre. naming rights
seems superfluous. It sounds like the end of Austin.
Adam Curry: Alright, so this is now the lower Slobo via studio.
That's what I'm naming it from now on lower Slovenia. I think
we kind of nixed the whole idea of, of naming rights. It was a
fun thought for a moment, but I see nothing but hurdles and
tribes and I think really not interested. Yeah. Because the
his point is it's well made.
John C. Dvorak: Let's use the word. It's problematic,
problematic
Adam Curry: indeed. We want people to value what we do and
send us value for that. Not for some advertising a hustle. Yeah,
because we'd rather be poor. I would at least I can't speak for
you.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, well, anonymous comes in next at 666
dot 660. We actually have two Anonymous is in a row, anonymous
Viking of the Pacific Northwest. I don't remember that. This
together with my January 31 2018 donation of 350 completes my
knighthood. I want to be known as the Viking of the Pacific
Northwest the vortex excellent contrasting of Amy Goodman's
domestic violence report and the public records and Adams
nuptials as well as double 33 followers on no agenda social
make me realize it's time for a knighthood I like cider and svid
Oh, which is the Icelandic sheep head at the round table
Adam Curry: that somebody put in order right now. cider and svid
Unknown: okay
John C. Dvorak: travel karma for the Baron of Henderson Nevada
and a big audience karma for the upcoming Salem Oregon meet up be
going to go to okay so we have some travel karma I got
Unknown: you've got karma.
Adam Curry: Thank you very much for your currency you at the at
the roundtable for the ceremony later on today.
John C. Dvorak: Callen MyStore 333 33 ITM folks working on our
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forward to your next episode. keeps us going you HAMP in beer
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Adam Curry: well I'm going to we don't have a lot for end of show
so I will play that and a quick hit for you now with the karma
you've got
Unknown: karma
John C. Dvorak: que ser Jeffro of the rock wall $250. I John
anatomy just realized I haven't donated since attending
knighthood back attaining knighthood back in December,
shame on me. I hope this donation will help with a
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your debunking of the media's manipulation of hacking glitches
and what not. And such. I'm sure that election cycle will give
you plenty of opportunities to tear down misinformation in that
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I congratulate Adam and the keeper and I wished him a turn
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Manning money shot just send your cash thanks. Think of the
children and little girl yeah on my way to help me remember to
donate meant more often for the children. Thanks for all you do,
sir. Jeffro rock raw
Adam Curry: Shona money shop. Jesus. That's a money shot.
Conway is a money shots and your cash. Cash we can take that
you've got
Unknown: karma.
Adam Curry: Thank you very much. calendarist that mean? Sir Jeff.
Jeff of the rock wall.
John C. Dvorak: We have Andrew Jones Baron of the Americas
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Adam Curry: I like the shorthand. It's on the list. We
will add it to our meetup rundown and thank you for your
courage and for your support do you want to karma
Unknown: you've got karma.
Adam Curry: That will be a meetup.
John C. Dvorak: Get it? Meetup meetup. All right. That
concludes our group of associate and executive producers for show
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Unknown: vote.org/and. A
Adam Curry: we break it down for you twice a week on Thursdays
you need to propagate our formula is this. We go out for
yet people in the mouth shut us.
Before we move on, I been meaning to ask you something for
several weeks, keep forgetting finally wrote it down in my show
prep. Do you by any chance have a video of our vows from the
wedding as you posited at the time? Ah.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, somewhere you have,
Adam Curry: because you told me you had the full ceremony? I do.
Could you please get that to us? Okay, thank you. I was worried
because I heard that you were taking pictures, but you got
home. And all you had was a whole bunch of the videos have
like a second because you'd left it on the video setting. And I
was worried that maybe you just had one picture of the ceremony?
No video,
John C. Dvorak: I will go look. Okay, I took the whole video.
I've done this before. I've only made a complete video. It takes
you know, 20 minutes, whatever it was. Yeah. I don't mind doing
it. And I do have it and whether I don't know about the
audibility of the Vows, but I think most of us it should be in
there cuz it was pretty quiet.
Adam Curry: Well, thank you. It's appreciated.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I should put that aside. What happens I
have this problem, because I'm like, when it does certain
things, I have a bad habit. I just start collecting stuff. So
I collect photos. I've never noticed this, really. And so
yeah, so I ended up with these terabytes of photos and there's
just like all these photos. So then you can they're not catalog
log. That's a real
Adam Curry: you know what you need. You need a dead man's
switch. You know, when when you keel over, and it's all done.
Just terabytes of shit gets released. Just to shoot it all
out into the ether. Just put it all on ISFPs or what's there
forever can never go away. It'd be fantastic. Yeah, I'd be
beautiful.
John C. Dvorak: So anyone who I delve into the thing into the
pile, it's like jump into a pile. And then holy wow. Wow,
that was a great photo. Anyway, okay, I'll get back on that.
Before it gets erased accidentally.
Adam Curry: Couple of things. So
John C. Dvorak: good news in the Queen's it looks like that
nutcase that Kisara not cash is not in that case. She's just
extreme justice. Democrat type and she is going to you know, do
whatever what they do on these other towns, they're gonna you
know, crack down on the police and make sure that they did
they're nicer and let people poop in the streets and does do
who cares about cool are you talking about are shoplifting
cabanne. Woman, the Justice woman and she's barely one inch
from winning here played. New York
Unknown: City Tiffany cabanne appears poised for victory and
the Queens District Attorney race. Gabon, a 31 year old queer
Latina public defender would become the first woman to hold
the post. She ran on ending cash bail, stopping the prosecution
of low level offenses decriminalizing sex work and
going after bad landlords, cops and Immigration and Customs
Enforcement. Tim had me come on claim victory last night and
Queens.
Adam Curry: Well, this is interesting. She's one of the
soul sisters. I mean, the Soros sisters, I should say. And I
learned this from my buddy Moe, that Soros in particular, I know
there is the big evil sorrows. But it's not a secret that he is
sponsoring black female district attorneys all over the country.
And I'm not quite sure why other than social justice seems to be
written all over them. I think he also helped get the Chicago
da in place. Well,
John C. Dvorak: yeah, people and they're not just her or black
district attorneys, but there's a bunch of other ones. They're
all these justice style. I mean, it's the Seattle's got one. We
have one in San Francisco Kamla Harris actually comes from that
whole school also a Soros system. And it unless you're
doing it to to lower the price of real estate in an area.
There's really no other reason that I can think of because real
estate prices in Queens, which is a huge place is going up
maybe it's time to reverse the tree. In and turn the Queen's
into a shithole. Well, I guess my point is that's what's gonna
happen by the way,
Adam Curry: it's broader than that. That's That's my point is
like, we may be turning a lot of places into a shithole. Well,
but and it seems like these DBAs are chosen and sponsored for
their, you know, obvious social justice warrior qualities.
John C. Dvorak: Yes, absolutely. It's a great experiment. saurez
How old is Soros? He's like, eight at
Adam Curry: some age at something. Yeah.
John C. Dvorak: Well, being a lizard he'll probably go to be
about 110
Adam Curry: He's gonna look so good when he finally changes his
skin. Once he sheds that old that old crusty version Oh,
yeah.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, anyway, so she's in it looks like GIMP is
still close because cats is the winner should have won the
borough president, but I think these are also rigged somehow.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: Whenever you hear the name Soros, you can kind of
think so. Yeah. What they need is they need some of that
rigging for the women over in the EU. It I think they try
again to to vote on their new leader of the Starfleet Command
to replace Juncker the drunker in the EU Commission. Right. And
so it's all about gender balance now. Oh, yeah. You think it's
just here in America, that we have all this crazy stuff going
on? No gender balance. That's what they're looking for.
Unknown: The European Union has a gender gap problem. None of it
three most powerful institutions have ever been led by a woman,
including the commission, Council of national leaders, and
the European Central Bank. But now those posts plus the top
diplomat job are up for grabs, providing an opportunity to
break up the boys club.
I think it's high time we never had a female commissioned
president. Were totally lacking gender equality. I mean, even in
the European Parliament, if we want to represent Europeans, we
cannot ignore half of the population of the European
Union.
And it seems the boys are at least making the right noises.
Adam Curry: I love them. I love how this report instead of men
Oh, no, the boys club the boys really cute. Imagine if that
report was reversed? I'm gonna hate doing that. But he's, I
mean, come on.
Unknown: We cannot ignore half of the population of the
European Union. And it
seems the boys are at least making the right noises. Right?
John C. Dvorak: gender balance means at least to two women.
Unknown: To get married. It's important for me to have a
gender background these nominations that we have two men
and two women the fun
for us most powerful position that of the Commission President
currently held by John Claude Juncker. Denmark's Margaret
vestia, is in the mix. Currently, she is the blocked
Top competition official and has made a name for herself for
taking on the likes of Google and Apple. Other candidates
include head of the World Bank, cristalino Gill giver, and
Spanish economy minister Nadia Calvino, but most names being
touted and men, as the leadership reflects domestic
politics across the bloc despite growing pressure for gender
diversity. men dominate the makeup of most EU institutions
of the bloc's 28 state leaders just for a women and the gap is
particularly glaring at the ECB. We're just two women's sit on
its 25 Mega Council also fixing the gender gap. It's just one
factor of many in the race, any deals must balance the interests
of states and parliament, big countries and small Europe's
north, south, east and west, and political parties. EU
institutions are also not only more male than the electorate,
they're whiter to minorities make up a population, but just
5% of income and lawmakers.
Adam Curry: It's gonna be so fun to watch this. I think Margarita
for tonight, though, she's she's interesting. She would work.
Yeah. And
John C. Dvorak: United States though she's into
Adam Curry: one of the four women leaders in the European
Union is Angela Merkel. Second time now she's got the shakes
while standing in public. Did you see this video? No, I did
not. So what happened a week ago, the first time and she was
in Ukraine. When she started shaking uncontrollably and it
was Oh no, she was dehydrated. Okay, now she's on stage and
starts happening again. That one of her her minions walks up
hands her a glass of water. She reaches out because she sees
someone coming she goes to grab She's no no. No, I I guess she
didn't want to seem weak or something. But yeah, and she
just the whole trembling with her legs the same thing and so
Oh, no, no, just nothing to see here. No problem.
John C. Dvorak: It's diabetic thing to something's
Adam Curry: going on. And, you know, why can't she just be
honest. It's not dehydration all the time. And if it's
dehydration and you're dehydrated, you refuse the water
that someone brings to you because it's embarrassing.
John C. Dvorak: Maybe she's got the DTS,
Adam Curry: what's the DTS?
John C. Dvorak: There's an old phrase, a few people out there.
I know what I meant. delirium tremens that you have when
you're coming if you're an alcohol addict or even a heroin
addict would be DTS. Oh, so she's a baby some sort of She's
addicted to it. She's an alcoholic or a drug addict and
she's trying to get off it and yeah, you get you get the
shakes, and she seemed nice coming out of the walls, and God
knows what else is going on. It doesn't sound good.
Adam Curry: So there's a lot of technology stuff we can talk
about, oh, maybe we just do this. E Jean Carol for a moment
in the Trump rotation department. Yeah, if you want
yeah, why not? It was it was kind of funny. So E Jean Carroll
is promoting a book that's that's the only way you can see
it and, and CNN fell for it. This she has written about her
sexual trysts. I believe it that's a main subject of
John C. Dvorak: mine will be Wilt Chamberlain. She makes it
sound like she's had affairs or either you had affairs with
everybody or she was hit on by pretty much every major person
you've ever heard of in your life. Yes.
Adam Curry: And so the headline is, I was raped by Trump, but
that's not her words. In fact, she doesn't even like the word
rape. She thinks it has different connotations. I think
she's a pathological liar. She may be a very good writer, but
she's definitely just full of it. And I think that this may
have been any doubt about that. I think she may have had her own
fantasy, and whether it happened or whether she wrote about it.
But she's promoting a book and they all fell for it. Everybody
has CNN number one on every single show.
John C. Dvorak: They want to believe these things they really
Adam Curry: do so want to just please give it to me. And of
course that did not end well. For Anderson Cooper. You
John C. Dvorak: don't feel like a victim. I was not thrown on
the ground and ravish which the more rate carries even
Adam Curry: that even saying I was not thrown on the ground and
ravish ravishing is not the same as being brutally raped or
raped. ravishing is the way I understand the word is more a
term of extreme passion. But just to show you right off the
bad this woman is not thinking what Anderson Cooper is thinking
John C. Dvorak: you don't feel like a victim. I was not thrown
on the ground and ravish which the word rape carries so many
sexual connotation. This was not this was not sexual. It just it
hurt it just what it just you know,
I think most people think of raping as what Cooper's trying
to say is it's supposed to her Don't you know that it guess
what it just you know, I think most people think of raping as a
I mean, it is a violent assault. It is
not I think most people think of rape as being sexy.
Let's wait for it says that. Yay. Fantasy rooms.
As I mean it is a violent assault. It is not I think
most people think of rape as being sexy. Let's take a short
break and the fantasies.
Unknown: We're gonna take a quick break. If you can stick
around. We'll talk more on the other side.
John C. Dvorak: You're fascinating to talk to. Oh my
god.
Adam Curry: You can just hear the control room flipping out
here. I'll tell you exactly where they start freaking out.
John C. Dvorak: It is a violent assault. It is not I
think most people see the rapist being sexy.
Adam Curry: Break we're gonna take a break and we'll talk more
on the other side.
John C. Dvorak: You're fascinating to talk to. Now,
okay, we haven't done this for a while. But I am going to give
you a clip of the day for that. That is just to clarify.
Adam Curry: But it gets better. It gets better listen to it
can't get yeah does. This is he or she is on the joy read show
basically telling her story.
John C. Dvorak: So he goes like this towards the dressing room.
And the odd thing is the dressing room door was open and
Bergdorf says you know and on the counter were these fancy
lingerie boxes as they used to have back in the 90s Yeah, so I
walked in right and bowed and he shut the door and bang against
the wall.
Unknown: So immediately upon walking into that
John C. Dvorak: driveway attack against the
Adam Curry: wall, right against the wall. Many people and you
should have been included in this. Thought this sounded
vaguely familiar this scenario this this plot and if you are a
law and order fan Special Victims Unit you might have
thought this did anyone
John C. Dvorak: want to roleplay a rape with you in a public
place? Yes, there was one a bit plain and it was not pure
fantasy was mine. Roleplay took place in the dressing room at
Bergdorf, Fs. While she was trying on lingerie, I would
burst in on.
Adam Curry: Wow, she's written for a lot of TV stuff. So I
wonder if, if, if that just kind of crept in.
John C. Dvorak: But at some point, some writers seem to lose
contact with reality. And their writing. And they I mean, Woody
Allen has done a couple of movies about this phenomenon.
And it's like to play or the people this stories that you
write about, you know, as you think they actually happened,
and because they're so graphic, I don't know. I mean, I thought
when I first read her piece that it was all jacked up about the
day excerpted part of her book and put it in Vanity.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I mean, the whole piece is just filled with
how she's, you know, having sex when she's eight years old, and
just all kinds of so
John C. Dvorak: everybody wants to have her Yes, honestly. Yeah,
no, she's, yeah, it was pretty funny. And it was a pretty
obviously it was. And if you listen to the interview with her
and Anderson, you hear a cut you hear that kind of a almost
borderline craziness. It's kind of exuding Yeah. Yeah. You're
fascinating to talked to
your sexuality. It's in your DNA is
great. The sex is great
Adam Curry: sex ed Mo and but most people think rape is sexy.
Okay, lady. already. It's just, it's it is. That's our media,
anything, anything that bring Trump down anything to bring him
down, or bring him down? We got another break, break, break
break. Go to Trump rotation.com. If you'd like to see what could
possibly be next on the menu, as we winced, spin the wheel of
accusations. It's all in there. That's true. So
John C. Dvorak: I have not been able to add a new one for
probably three, four or five months. I think they're I think
it's solid right now. And I've numbered them. So don't just go
by the number.
Adam Curry: There's a so there's a number of technology things
going on, there was a hearing, which was underplayed downplayed
was not really promoted. I didn't I found out about it just
by someone mentioned it on no agenda social.com While it was
taking place, this is, you know, this Senate had a was a
technologist or what are they called algorithms as technology
companies and algorithms Senate hearing, which was, you know, C
span three, so not even available for most people. Then
we also had an, we're gonna see we're gonna find an order here.
We had the Project Veritas, Google Insider. Tech, maybe
we'll start. Actually, maybe we'll start with Sal was a good
one. Yeah. And I do have some comments about that. But I'd
like to start with something that I came across, which gives
you a pretty good idea of how Google specifically Google
really works. And Portland, Portland, Oregon, is, has signed
up to Google's Sidewalk Labs project. I, we may have talked
about this in the past. Maybe the idea is they they take a
city or a portion of the city, and they track everything,
everybody, it's all connected
John C. Dvorak: over you. We talked about this years ago, I
think Toronto is their first target.
Adam Curry: Yeah, but now it's Portland. Yeah. And, and the
idea is they're selling this service, the Google Sidewalk
Labs. And in that is a program called replica. And they use it
for city planners. So you can understand how traffic flows.
And you know, other things for planning for planning for
planning in the city. But, and I cut this, I have a video and
it's about four minutes to cut it down to under two. It's if
you listen to this in the context of what they're doing
with us all the time, and how they track what we do, it
becomes a little clearer as to exactly how beautiful this
business model of Google's is. And as I've always said, it
always comes down to location that is the, you know, the
keyhole database, the keyhole system that they acquired early
on when they were funded by in Q tel, the CIA's venture capital
firm. This was very intentional. This is a true surveillance
system, the whole company is built around your location. And
when you add any little thing to your location, you're able to do
quite a lot and just listen to how they speak about this in the
context of the Sidewalk Labs project. And just think about it
in the context of advertising to you, or any kind of behavioral
modification, which is what advertising is
Unknown: replica is made up of two parts, a replica activity
table, a database rep. Presenting all the trips and
activities by people in an area, and explore an easy to use
interface for querying the data and creating maps and charts.
First, let's look at how a replica activity table is
created. We use cell phone location data covering a small
percentage of the population to learn about travel patterns, and
create a travel behavior model. Basically a set of rules that
represent how a person makes choices on where, when, why and
how to travel. The location data is collected by third party
mobile apps with all identifying information like names and phone
numbers removed.
Adam Curry: Now, mind you, for the Sidewalk Labs project, they
remove all that information, but Google has it.
Separately, we use aggregate census information and other
sources to create what planners call a synthetic population.
This is a virtual population that is statistically
representative of the real population. If 300 People live
on your block, you'll find 300 people living on your block and
replica. And you
know, she's no, this is exactly what Google's doing. You know
that it might address there's a replica, a replica of me a
digital me inside the Google's
100 People live on your block, you'll find 300 people living on
your block and replica, but you won't be able to identify any
individual. We then give each person and the virtual
population, a travel behavior model based on where they live,
work, and some other factors. Finally, we use computer
simulation to generate a week of trips and activities for each
person. Let's dive in and take a look at one person in the
virtual population as an example. And
remember, this is not one person, it's replica of you.
They know what you they have your name to have your email,
your phone, your address, and they know who you are a replica
activity table, we can see this person is in a household of one
adult and two kids. She lives in the suburbs and owns a car, we
can see in the data that she drives to work downtown, leaving
home around 8am stopping off at a coffee shop on the way in the
afternoon, she leaves work at 4pm. And heads to the grocery
store sweet, sweet gig, she gets home at five. A replica activity
table is made up of millions of virtual people, each with their
own home work or school, and a full week of trips and
activities. These movements are faithful to real world
activities, but not traceable to actual people or specific trips.
So
they just have to keep saying that. So you're not creeped out
as a city planner. But this is exactly what Google does for
their advertising clients for for anyone who wants to do
business with Google. That's what they do. They have a
replica of you. This folds into the first and only piece that I
want to play from this Senate hearing. And the guy I have is
Tristan or Tristan Tristan Harris, he is from the Center
for humane technology. I haven't looked him up. But okay, think
tanks, um, something in the I don't know who's funding it. But
he talks about the concept of persuasive technology. And after
you've heard what you just did about how Google puts it all
together, it gives good context for him explaining what is what
Google's business model is and how they're using it. And if
it's good or not
Unknown: everything you said, it said to me because it's
happening not by accident, but by design. Because the business
model is to keep people engaged, which in other words, this
hearing is about persuasive technology. And persuasion is
about an invisible asymmetry of power. When I was a kid, I was a
magician. And magic teaches you that you can have asymmetric
power without the other person realizing it. You can
masquerade. To have asymmetric power walk by looking like you
have an equal relationship. You say pick a card any card, while
meanwhile you know exactly how to get that person to pick the
card that you want. And essentially what we're
experiencing with technology is an increasing asymmetry of power
that's been masquerading itself as a equal or contractual
relationship where the responsibility is on us.
Adam Curry: I like that. And by the way, feel free to jump in
wherever you want. John, I'd like what he's saying. I like
John C. Dvorak: it, too, I think is really, really absorb. It is
very good. Yeah, it's a good observation.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Because because we all think it's fair.
And it's an equal relationship we have with these companies,
but it's not in
Unknown: the race for attention. Because there's only so much
attention, companies have to get more of it by being more and
more aggressive. I call it the race to the bottom of the
brainstem. So it starts with techniques like pull to refresh.
So you pull to refresh your newsfeed that operates like a
slot machine, it has the same kind of addictive qualities that
keep people in Las Vegas hooked to the slot machine. Other
examples are removing stopping queues. So if I take the bottom
out of this class, and I keep refilling the water or the wine
you won't know when to stop drinking. So that's what happens
with infinitely scrolling feeds. We naturally remove the stopping
queues and this is what keeps people scrolling, but the race
for attention has to get more and more aggressive. And so it's
not enough just to get your behavior and predict what will
take your behavior, we have to predict how to keep you hooked
in a different way. And so it crawled deeper down the
brainstem into our social validation. So that was the
introduction of likes, and followers, how many followers to
I have, and that got every It was much cheaper to instead of
getting your attention to get you addicted to getting
attention from other people. And this has created the kind of
mass narcissism and mass cultural thing that's happening
with with young people, especially today, and as
Adam Curry: you see it, he's, he's nailing it. So we had that
part, we tapped into your narcissistic side, which is
still going on, because you can have your video anywhere you
want it, you can have it on YouTube. But the narcissist in
you says, Well, if I get kicked off YouTube, then I might as
well be dead. Because no one's watching, like everyone deserves
to be a superstar Andy Warhol was right in
Unknown: the race for attention. It's not enough just to get
people addicted to attention, the race has to migrate to AI,
to can build a better predictive model of your behavior. And so
if you give an example of YouTube, so there you are,
you're about to hit play on a YouTube video, and you hit play,
and then you think you're gonna watch this one video. And then
you wake up two hours later and say, Oh, my God, what just
happened? And the answer is because you had a supercomputer
pointed at your brain. And the moment you hit play, it wakes up
an avatar, voodoo doll like version of you inside of a
Google server. And that avatar, based on all the clicks, and
likes and everything you've ever made, those are like your hair
clippings, and toenail clippings and nail filings that make the
avatar looking at more and more like you so that inside of a
Google server, they can simulate more and more possibilities. If
I pick you at this video for Frankie with this video, how
long would you stay and the business model is simply what
maximizes watch time. This leads to the kind of algorithmic
extremism that you've pointed out. And this is what's caused
70% of YouTube's traffic now and be driven by recommendations not
by human choice, but by the machines.
Adam Curry: And this is where it gets interesting, because that
they've obviously figured this out the recommendations, if you
see this deep platforming stuff that's going on, it's all about
taking people off recommendations not being
recommended. Because what they don't really know how to do yet
is to truly modify your behavior. If you're a
conservative, and you're looking for conservative talk and
conservative outrage, you're going to be drawn to it. That's
just how the system works, they have no way to push you towards
anything else, which is probably why they need to quarantine this
type of stuff.
Unknown: And it's a race between Facebook's Voodoo Doll where you
flick your finger can they predict what to show you next,
and Google's voodoo doll. And these are abstract metaphors
that apply to the whole tech industry where it's a race
between who can better predict your behavior. Facebook has
something called loyalty prediction where they can
actually predict to an advertiser when you're about to
become disloyal to a brand. So if you're a mother and you take
Pampers diapers, they can tell Pampers, hey, this user is about
to become disloyal to this brand. So in other words, they
can predict things about us that we don't know about our own
selves,
Adam Curry: where you're aware of this, this capability. I'd
never heard of this before. That's new to me. And if that's
true, that's very powerful stuff. And I, I would be curious
to know how they do it. But
Unknown: and that's a new level of asymmetric power. And we have
a name for this asymmetric relationship, which is a
fiduciary relationship or a duty of care relationship, the same
standard we apply to, to doctors, to priests to lawyers.
Imagine a world in which priests only make their money by selling
access to the confession booth to someone else, except in this
case, Facebook listens to 2 billion people's confessions,
has a has a supercomputer next to them. And as calculating and
predicting confessions you're going to make before you know,
you're going to make them. And that's what's causing all this
havoc. This affects everyone, even if you don't use these
products, you still send your kids to a school where other
people believing that anti vaccine conspiracy theories
causes impact for your life or other people voting in your
elections. And when Marc Andreessen said software is
going to eat the world, what he meant by that was that software
can do every part of society more efficiently than non
software, right? Because it just adding efficiencies, right. And
so we're going to allow software to eat up our elections, we're
gonna allow it to eat up our media, our taxi, our
transportation, and the problem was that software was eating the
world without taking responsibility for it. We used
to have rules and standards around Saturday morning
cartoons. And when YouTube gobbles up that part of society,
it just takes away all of those protections. So
Adam Curry: that's a long backgrounder, but I think it
really explains extremely well what these companies are doing
and that it truly is about business for them. And I'm just
going to push back a little bit again, with the most recent
removal of videos D platforming quarantining of the Donald
subreddit on read all these things. People are so convinced
that these companies are only trying to kill conservative
thinking and conservative thought. They're missing the big
picture. In that big picture still comes down to money.
That's all about that they do if, if conservatism is seen as
toxic, then it's gotta go. But they, they have no way to to
change your direction. Not yet at least they have not
algorithms, their AI can amplify what you like, but it can't
change your behavior yet they're really trying to get that and
they're not sincere about going after hate. They really aren't.
Here's proof.
Unknown: There's a startling revelation at a House Homeland
Security Committee hearing, Democratic Congressman Max Rose
of New York got executives from Facebook, Google and Twitter to
admit that none of them have full time employees to monitor
terrorist propaganda and hate speech.
John C. Dvorak: You all cannot get your act together enough to
dedicate enough resources to put full time staff under a building
dealing with this problem. I think it speaks to the ways in
which we're addressing this with this technocratic libertarian
elitism. And all the while people are being killed.
Unknown: Now that came during a discussion about the tech
companies failure to take down live video of the march mosque
attacks in New Zealand.
Adam Curry: So they're not really sincere about it. They
just don't, they don't really care. They only care about what
advertisers are interested in and definitely goes for Google
with their search results. They don't want people turned off and
pissed off and turned away. But for some reason, they've
convinced everybody that they're out to get you. And it's kind of
pissing me off certainly from no agenda, people you should know
better. And then you get this Project Veritas, which looks
like the biggest red herring in the world with a whistleblower
who's on a vocoder. Are you kidding me? That's not a
whistleblower. That's a dude in the dark with a vocoder. We
don't know who this person is. We don't know what that we don't
have a name as chickenshit and dramatic music and facts that
you can interpret any way you want. Right after
Unknown: Donald Trump won the election 2016, the company did a
complete 180. And what they thought was important before
they felt self expression and giving everyone a voice was
important. But now they're like, hey, there's a lot of hate. And
because of there's a lot of hate misogyny and racism, that's your
reason why Donald Trump got elected. And so we need to fix
that. And we need to start policing our users. Because we
don't like to have an outcome like that. We don't want to have
an outcome like that to happen again. So the things that
changed was that the TJs, they started talking about the need
to combat hate and racism online. And also, at YouTube,
they had the same like talks by the CEO, Susan. And they they
talked about combating God and getting rid of unfairness. And
so slowly, they started introducing the concept of
machine learning fairness.
Adam Curry: Alright, so it comes down to this machine learning
fairness, which sounds I don't know it's somehow people have
misconstrued this with the machine learning is to take away
all the all the bad talk, but no, it's not. They're trying to
equalize the options that they present. So they can move people
towards a more advertiser friendly area of their service.
But you, you can interpret it any way you want. Fairness,
Unknown: is a dog whistle does not mean what you think that it
means. And you have to apply doublethink in order to
understand what they're really saying. What they're really
saying about fairness is that they have to manipulate their
search results so that it gives them their political agenda that
they want.
Adam Curry: I I don't know about you job. I just disagree.
There's no evidence that this is only about their political
agenda. It's people saying that and without any proof with some,
again, a poor poorly edited. I won't say deceptive, but the
video of the woman who apparently says we wanted to fix
it or didn't want to didn't want the Trump problem in 2020. You
can interpret this in many ways. You can say we didn't want the
Russian the Russian collusion. We didn't want fake news. But
this insider, the vocoder insider chickenshit. Me if you
really want to do something, step out those tell us who you
really are. No, it's hard. You have to be afraid because it's
all for their political agenda bullshit. This is about money.
Unknown: So they have to bias their algorithms so that they
can they can get their agenda across, you know, to unpack
everything that she's saying, saying that she wants to be she
wants the algorithm to be fair to a hand picked representative
of that community means that what she's trying to do is she's
trying to sell you a product that is not objectionable. But
it was just trying to do was just trying to sell product
that's not objective. The desert representable that's users
instead represents the will of a of a group of people making
decisions behind the shadows.
Adam Curry: So this insider actually, flubbed, and the truth
came out, did you hear it now?
Unknown: means that what she's trying to do is she's trying to
sell you a product that is not objectionable. What you're
trying to do is just trying to sell product that's not
objective.
Adam Curry: No, you were right the first time she's trying to
sell a product that is not objectionable.
John C. Dvorak: He said it. Yeah, that's that's what it is.
Adam Curry: That's what it is. It's what is not objectionable.
And here's, here's an example.
John C. Dvorak: Wait a minute, why did why did he even bother
correcting it? To objective? What is objective mean? The
honest sense, you know, it was to sell you a product that's
subjective. What does that mean? It makes less sense when he
fixed it.
Adam Curry: To me, it sounded like someone doing a retake, and
it was supposed to be edited out. That's what it sounded like
to me. Let me just pick that up again. Let me do it over, you
know what I mean? Yeah, pick it up. So here's the here's the
here's an example of this machine learning or machine
fairness,
Unknown: project, Veritas also received a trove of confidential
documents from within Google. This document is about
algorithmic unfairness. It reads quote, for example, imagine that
a Google image query for CEOs shows predominantly men, even if
it were a factually accurate representation of the world, it
would be algorithmic unfairness unquote,
Adam Curry: understand what's wrong. They want they want to
show as many CEOs as possible. So I'm just, I'm just not buying
this entire look, tech is arrogant. This is all tech
arrogance, every single bit of it, but they've been caught with
their pants down, because they can't change the behavior of
these people towards an N, something that is not
objectionable. That's what they're trying to do. So they
have to quarantine it, cut it off, cut it off, get rid of it.
And it's misread. And this is a big problem is being misread by
people who believe they're being attacked and, and silence, and
they're moving away. And I've seen this movie before you've
seen it to John, you get an up, you get enough people, they're
going to start moving to other things, and it will happen and
they're losing market share every single day, my hope is
that they they lose it towards a federated approach. I've seen a
Reddit clone already, which works with the Federation
completely federated. There's new alternatives to YouTube, as
we've talked about earlier, bit, shoot, etc. It has some, you
know, these brands are starting to garner a little bit of a
little bit of attraction. And people will move over to those
systems. And they're afraid of that, too. I think they're in a
rock and a hard place. And here's the big secret the
Internet is a network, you can do whatever you want on it. You
don't need them. How many people actually voted for someone
differently because of Google searches? Come on now.
John C. Dvorak: Probably none.
Adam Curry: Thank you. None, then you know, so what is the
what is the point of screaming and yelling that your
conservative YouTube podcast YouTube video, or your channel
was taken down? What are you there to convince people to vote
for for a conservative? Is that your job? You think that's
really working? You think that the sarcastic YouTube videos
that people make which are funny and is great and it's in and
conservatives love it? Do you think that makes a difference?
Oh, you can do that. I'm bitchute and have just as much
fun. Everybody some kind of social justice warrior these
days and the conservative right is no better than the than the
socialist left. And meanwhile, the guys in the middle are just
struggling to make the dollars come their way.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, that's why makeup videos are the real
winner.
Adam Curry: Yes, they are pretty good, actually. Quite well. Yes.
Do you watch those a lot?
John C. Dvorak: I usually watch them just to find the good ones
to send to you. Yeah.
Adam Curry: It's so appreciated. Yeah. So be on the lookout for
for this arrogance. It's everywhere. But to just be out
there fighting and yelling and screaming and saying that, you
know, it's, it's they're trying to silence us. No, they're not.
They're just trying to modify your behavior and get the good
at and remove controversy.
John C. Dvorak: I also remove people who advertise within
their own broadcast because it's taking money away from them the
way they see it,
Adam Curry: you know, YouTube reminds me of MTV and MTV was
the star. Right? It was MTV is the star of the show. It's the
channel. It's the brand. It's the big M little TV is the
moment I want my MTV. They did not want VJs to be stars. They
in fact, that's why they you saw so many of them. They rotated
them out all the time, but you get in popped to get the fuck
out. Goodbye. All right, next what you want more money. Okay,
goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye, goodbye. We they want
to be the star YouTube is the star. They don't want other
stars. And they're right. It's annoying. You got to pander to
them.
John C. Dvorak: They don't want it. Yeah. And they get leverage.
And yeah,
Adam Curry: and they make a billions of dollars off of the
makeup videos. That's it. They want you to watch makeup videos
and cat videos and your kids being cute. That's what they
want. Yeah. And everything else is just delusional, delusional.
I'd like Steven Crowder. He's funny now, and Oh, sure. Yes,
there's a document where the Google guys says, hey, you know
this Shapiro and Dave Rubin and Jordan Peterson. They're Nazis.
That's my favorite. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And then we'll enter what
the if you really read the document. What they say is we
should remove them from the recommendation system that's the
only thing that's of importance in that in that in that secret
Google Group is they're saying we should do we don't want them
to be recommended? No, of course you know, because that could
actually screw up your business that he calls them or path to
Nazis or whatever fine.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. Yeah, that was pretty funny. Especially
Peterson Yeah. Professor of long lectures long lectures
Adam Curry: Well, it's always funny to call her oh, maybe
John C. Dvorak: I'm not so sure.
Adam Curry: It's it's always fun to call an Orthodox Jew a Nazi I
mean, I see the humor in it it's yeah it's very funny so I'm good
about it and it really is so calm down everybody and go find
go to find other places to go somewhere else it is not
John C. Dvorak: calm find he just you can write me Adam loves
by the way getting these notes so just keep writing to him.
Adam Curry: I'm just saying that get your get your panties out of
the bunch that they're in and and stop screaming on Twitter.
Well unfair unfair in this case I just got to agree with with
with all agree with the leftist who were saying it's a private
company they can do what they want to how hypnotized are we
become to believe that we cannot live without the Google? Oh, we
can't live without it.
John C. Dvorak: Can't go easily without all the stuff you can
live without you. We don't run our podcast on anything but our
own system Correct. Which assesses people out to be
reminded of that. You don't go I mean, you can find it all over
the place because people can post our podcasts wherever they
want. And then it shows up somewhere you could be on
Spotify, I'm not sure. And but our mechanism is a mechanism
that we do directly we use this you know a bunch of servers in
Europe and Canada. Costs. It'll be cost money then costs. Well,
we're seeing doesn't cost as much as it would if it used
podbean
Adam Curry: we're very fortunate to have a void zero and bemrose
John C. Dvorak: Some pros like void zeros a pro. Bae, Bevis and
Butthead.
Adam Curry: Man just so rude about our guys, man.
John C. Dvorak: Right? They love it. They need a touch you
Adam Curry: know, we water yeah, once you go drink some water and
I'll tell you that it we have Ryan bemrose We call the program
director and Mark Van Dyke is the system's master over
engineering and stream management and Wizardry. I got
John C. Dvorak: to meet bemrose He was up in Seattle meet up
really nice, really nice guy.
Adam Curry: Yep, of course. These are all super nice guys.
All of them. Okay, they're cheesy. Sounds so good.
Something else that was going Oh, yes. So amidst all this, I
do have a little OTG update.
John C. Dvorak: Now. Yeah. Small. You have an OTG update.
It was in a newsletter.
Adam Curry: Oh, thank you for putting that in. Yes, a little
OTG update. As I was, you know, we moved to the house and I
threw out a whole bunch of stuff. Like almost all my stuff
and bought a couple of boxes open organizing. And I find an
old IG orchard
John C. Dvorak: your stuff off is probably all valuable. Yeah,
no, I'm
Adam Curry: not gonna do that. We already tried that and I
failed. I didn't follow through. I don't want to auction off you
know, because you have to wipe everything and you know, this
data is golden them devices men. So I find an iPhone five. The
iPhone five was the last iPhone that Steve Jobs actively
participated in design. And
John C. Dvorak: I would say the iPhone five was the most
beautiful one ever done. Yeah,
Adam Curry: it was actually it the four had the the four, of
course was the you're holding it wrong phone. Which was, it was a
weird one it was released a weird, weird cycle. It's just
Yeah, I agree with you, I think the form factor, you hold it in
your hand, it feels really solid. The five is a little just
a little bit bigger. But the five has some differences. It
has the LTE. So you have 4g instead of the the four which
had 3g. So just as a lark, I fired it up just to see, you
know, what was on it, what was going on with it. And I don't
know why. But it started up in complete reset mode. Maybe
because the battery's been dead for years. I mean, this is a
phone from 2010. So it's been around for almost a decade. So I
fired up and it starts off in new phone mode. And like, Oh,
what the hell, I'll set it up as a new phone. And with that, I
set it up with the screen, you have to create an apple id. So I
just created a phony baloney name. And, and you know, an
email address I wanted from you know, which would be icloud.com.
And it set it up. And I, I found out that you can update the
whatever, I think I had iOS eight on it, you can update it
to 10 dot 3.3 Not over the air, you have to actually connect it
to iTunes. So like what the hell, I'll let me see what's
going on. When you have it updated to 10 dot 3.3, you can
install something called privacy Pro, which I was reading about.
Maybe two weeks ago, some guy found out that his iPhone
Surprise, surprise, in the middle of the night was sending
out 5000 Different pings. Because of all the apps that are
in you have all these these frameworks and and all these
trackers inside the apps in Yelpers was apparently a phone.
Yeah, I'll kill him the phone he says about a gigabyte of data a
month if you really looked at and that's just what he had
installed. So this privacy Pro, which I think is a subscription,
you have to pay for it monthly. But it is it works exactly like
the piehole only runs on the device itself. So it comes with
a preloaded list of trackers. And at the DNS level because
it's basically it's a VPN. And so you're requesting, you know,
tracker.google.com, it's on the list. And so then it goes into
the BitBucket. And it never it never shows up on your phone.
And you actually have a pretty decent experience using your
your product. What this gave me was the opportunity to look at
what the iPhone is always taught who it's talking to, in its
standard state, just the iPhone, no loaded apps zero except for
this one, which is the privacy pro app. And it really only is
sending stuff. It's pinging an iTunes server, it's pinging the
iCloud. So I just locked all those off. And she said, No, you
can nothing Apple can't talk to anything anywhere. And, and now
all of a sudden, here's a phone that does that has a 4g, which
is what I've been looking for, does not talk to any outside
crap. Now of course, you can still be your local even though
you got to turn off background refresh, you got to turn off,
turn off Bluetooth, turn off Wi Fi, you want all of that stuff
off, because that's another way how they track you, you really
only want to have cell phone tracking as the only unless you
turn that off, then you just have a phone that doesn't do
much. And it takes incredible discipline to not load any apps.
Because once you do that, then you're screwed. This phone is
quite usable in this in this instance, it will do email it
does it reasonably fast. It does text message you got to turn off
the iMessage get rid of all that shit. And I'm looking at a phone
that I think is reasonably locked down from from tracking
except for the the obvious ones that they could do on my Nokia
with the benefit of faster speed and, and a web browser that
actually functions and I'm going to try it now the battery is
lasting. You know it's already 48 hours on one charge because
it's not doing anything is just sitting there. It's work. The
VPN is working a little bit but it's very, very nice product.
And I think it may be the way to go. And I'm calling the iPhone
OTG I think it's the way to go and you can pick him up for 50
bucks on Amazon the five Yeah. It's not new. I mean, it's
refurbish, but who cares because scratches on it out care.
John C. Dvorak: That's kind of interesting, because the
Adam Curry: thing is, you can't do this with an Android, because
Android has all this ship built right into it. Now, who knows
what Android is doing? I have some
John C. Dvorak: kind of my phone the Android does is, which is an
older Android. It's really not doing that much is probably too
far as I can tell it's not doing anything.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I wouldn't trust that. Oh, I have a turned
off right now. But I still kind of trust
John C. Dvorak: you have it turned off. He won't do a lot.
And if you haven't turned off the likelihood of it being
tracking or anything, then what I do is I keep my phone off.
Well, you know, hard is that
Adam Curry: when you turn your phone back on, it actually sends
all your location up somewhere.
John C. Dvorak: It doesn't do anything. Yes, it does. It's
been proven. If I turn it on when to make a call. Oh, you're
sure he could send whatever it wants at the point I'm begging
the call for maybe they'll send it a triple A truck over. And
then I turn it off again. I don't need less or run a hot
phone is beeping away in my pocket and the radiator on nuts,
John,
Adam Curry: unless you physically remove the battery,
your phone's not off.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, well. This old dog I'm pretty sure it is.
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of Philadelphia in Philadelphia. You got some pronunciation
things for me. $100. He says, Pronunciation Guide. shul kill
is school Cole. Ah, I don't know that. I'll never get that right.
I don't know how many people we have from school call. But we
should have more. We can have more and I can say school. Cool.
I'm gonna have to put a sheet up on the wall. And then pass
youngest pause Shunk for sure. P A. S. Yun K is PA Shunk. And by
the way, I will read these pronunciation gaz gazzard tears,
if you want to provide them to me and it's always interesting
to the public at large, because Skou call is not something I
would normally pronounce correctly. Now Odin who knew who
would? It's very
Adam Curry: educational.
John C. Dvorak: But I can't pronounce Paul up in Washington
State and why Yreka in La Jolla. Bill Johnson $72. He's from
travel calm. We'll put that at the end for you. Gordon Gibson
in Dallas, Texas. 6969. Any possibility getting an analog
synthesizer D douching. He needs a dilution we can do that.
Adam Curry: I don't know about an analog. Do we have that?
John C. Dvorak: I don't know what he's talking about.
You've been de deuced
Adam Curry: you gotta help me out. I have no idea. I
John C. Dvorak: don't know. Cory Bennett and Herculis. California
$69.33. He's got a birthday call for somebody needs a smokin hot
girlfriend, Ms. Kim. All right. Ian Abbott in Winnipeg,
Manitoba. 61st time Darren he needs a deed usually a lot of
first time.
bad deed deuced.
He needs some he's got some requests. We'll give him a Karma
at the end gave
Adam Curry: him a shot. Also for the for the new donors for the
new timers due to brevity and just reasons of length and we
want to still do a show. And although these these segments
are often entertaining and informative, we really only
promised to read full notes from Associate Executive producers
and executive producers. We pick stuff up from time to time in
the in the lower regions. But no, it's not always that easy.
So we just kind of moved through it.
John C. Dvorak: I didn't pick up this from his note. Don, if you
have your pen I would put this in the list because it got
missed. Okay, birthday shout out to his father grant. 6060 At
last Tuesday.
Adam Curry: I think he's on the list actually.
John C. Dvorak: Well, it should be in yellow. It is in yellow.
It is Yep. We'll do it. gives it the same yellow as Kim Thompson.
No
Adam Curry: it's not it seems to be a lighter shade of yellow.
John C. Dvorak: Wonder what the point of that is? En at Ian
Abbott and Winnipeg Okay, we just did him gave it a shot
Bazian in San Francisco, California 60
Adam Curry: And he's a relative in the hospital karma will do
that for you.
John C. Dvorak: Kim Thompson in Thornton, Colorado. 53 another
birthday co What is this birthday day? We had none the
other day now we have one after the other.
Adam Curry: It's a baby boom. Eric oh wait, so hold on. This
is Kim happy with my husband Patrick July 5. And no the
fireworks aren't just for your birthday. Please deduce him as
he's listened to your show for years still hasn't contributed
so his wife of 25 plus years is doing it.
John C. Dvorak: How did the having him deduce that's not
actually the kosher?
Adam Curry: Happy Birthday T bone from your lunch lady wife
now I'm going to do it. That's a great donate. You've been D
juiced 25 years and they never had a fight.
John C. Dvorak: Okay, got Eric wrinkles in Brielle. 5150 my
first
Adam Curry: donation to the best podcast in the universe. He
doesn't ask for it. But I think he deserved it. I'm in a D
douching mood today.
John C. Dvorak: Rich sembalun Hillsboro North Carolina he has
an EN a note I want to read wrote something in there was a
couple of things that came I got my hat. What hat from Amazon?
Adam Curry: What hat is this?
John C. Dvorak: This was Oh yeah, I think we put this on
there's Father's Day donation from Samuel and he much there
but I did get some other stuff I get I'll get to it. I think it's
gonna be in this list. But I did get my hat my make Keep America
Great hat. And it came with a little thing inside a little
note from Amazon as a gift for you. JC DKGM wG and that's about
it. That's it. i Yeah. So I don't know who's just whoever
sent they had? I think they mentioned in a couple of notes
ago. Last show. Karl Schneider $51. Patrick hmm, by biz, Kirk,
I think, well, that's a Dutch name. So it'd be it'd be, you
can do like Kirk
Adam Curry: Bacchic by Carrick, which is the it's the it's kind
of the church next door.
John C. Dvorak: By Kim, I think 51. I also am a bloomer from
Pittsburgh, and she sent a note and that's the one I wanted to
look at. She sent a nice little note and closes the late gift
from the Pittsburgh meet up. Hopefully there was some
cookies. And then she sent his note in. She sent his book a
small little book and I'm thinking I've got this book and
it's a book of was not a lot in here. There's quite a bit
actually. It's a little one of these mole skein books with a
rubber band. And it's got notes from the meat that people wrote
into the book. Thanks for saying Washington like we do. Oh, how
Adam Curry: cute is that?
John C. Dvorak: If Jen Jen Stockdale wrote a little note.
Ryan Rolo. No, Bob Ryan Joel. Ah,
Adam Curry: yeah, I'm supposed to have one of these two. I
think I never heard this. Yeah, I think there was two notebooks
and they sent one to me as well, which I haven't received.
John C. Dvorak: But maybe because it just says Hi, John.
Hi, John. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I think they sent mine to the PIO
John C. Dvorak: box left to go take Ryan It's middle. Oh, my
last name is Mitt Lo. Love to show. Hate the pronunciation of
my name. JC de they're elusive swollen. Amy's mcneilus Are
there less swollen amygdalas here. Sorry for the bad
penmanship drunk something so Fahrenheit was there? Sure. Ryan
J. Brady night of the Three Rivers is there. So I'm thinking
well, maybe it goes on as a couple more. There's quite a few
of them. I wrote a note dealt with
Adam Curry: it was a good meetup. I know it was a it was a
great meet out.
John C. Dvorak: I'm thinking we should have we should start
doing this ourselves. You and I are have one of these notebooks
like this one. When you get yours. You do the same thing.
Just keep this notebook try not to lose it and bring it to
future meetups and just pass it around.
Adam Curry: Or I kind of like the idea of having a notebook
per meet up like a scrap but we can be scrapbookers
John C. Dvorak: tinctures mole skein thing has got like maybe
300 pages in it. There's like six pages of notes. So it's like
a wasted little book. One notebook per meet up. Okay. I
don't know. Maybe we should just be online. We should just give
up on the idea.
Adam Curry: I like the physical product though. It'll stay
around for a long time. 100 years from manpage
John C. Dvorak: is Nick Stand the list of $50.50 Then we go to
Scott Scott Nelson in Melbourne, Florida. $50.01 He always wants
to be up there like that. And now $50 donors name and location
if applicable. Hey Soos Allen in Austin, Texas is that Joe Winky
in Santa Rosa Maxine Waters gravels back Jo banjo band
forget to travel with your gravel toodles
Adam Curry: toodles Maxine Waters gravel.
John C. Dvorak: Jeffrey's Zellen in Oakland, Michigan, Jan OSA
fears of Cepheus in OSA theists in the Learn.
Adam Curry: Yeah, this is not I think it may young. I don't
think this is his right. His correct last name. But I think
the AI in the UAE will be Oh surpass. I don't know, John in
most foreign. Okay. Send me a note. Yeah, let me see if I can
get your name right.
John C. Dvorak: Peter Sir Peter tau tays and Sugarland, Texas, a
Julian Robertson. Aptos. California, Charles E. US Parts
Unknown Richard Gardner who is in New York, but he's wondering,
Sir Richard, Darren Denecke Denic with the next dinette,
Gurwitz There you go. In Dubai. We need to report. Take photos,
Mitchell Kaufman and Hillsboro, Oregon. And last but not least,
Annie briglia a great show on Sunday. She says, Oh, I had just
had to donate. I had to donate. Yes, you did. Annie. And she
did. She did donate. She's our last producer that listed on
show 1150 We did have other people obviously it came in with
under amounts but want to thank these folks for making this show
happen.
Adam Curry: Yes. And everyone who came in under $50 on our
subscriptions. This is very, very helpful to the show. But
again, it always stands the general idea of value for value
is you listen to this. Did you get anything valuable from it?
How much was it worth to you? You make the determination. And
we've been doing this for 11 years and we'll still here it's
called podcast justice. That's what it's all about. Thank you
so much. And remember we have another show on Sunday.
Unknown: for.org/and
Adam Curry: a lots of different Karmis to do here.
John C. Dvorak: Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs Let's vote.
Adam Curry: Right John and his coin a birthday list for today.
Now the longest we've had but this is the 27th of June 2019.
Rich Cemal celebrated on the 24th we say happy birthday to
him. Patrick Weingard Happy Birthday to his beautiful wife
jubilees Cory Bennett Happy Birthday to a smokin hot
girlfriend Miss Kim E and Abbott. Happy birthday to his
dad Grant, who turned 60 on June 25. And Kim Thompson says Happy
Birthday to her husband T bone Sir Patrick. We'll be
celebrating on July 5 Happy birthday to everybody here the
best podcast in the universe. We have the meetups. Oh, I need to
get that meetup jingle in the right knighting while I'm doing
meetups first, oh, if you want to run the show you get to
determine how it goes. Like to mix it up a little bit. save the
best for last meetups for you today in southeast London.
They're probably hanging out there as we speak. Hello slaves
tomorrow in Salem, Oregon, June 29. We have to South Florida and
Linden, Michigan, so that's a new entrant. July 4, Seattle and
Washington DC to meet ups. We're really kicking ass with these
meetups everywhere. July 6 and Utrecht in the Netherlands
Knoxville, Tennessee July 9. Charleston. I want to is it. I
don't know if it's one of the Carolinas I need to that's not
helpful. I need to talk to the back office. That's July 11, and
Charleston. We'll find out which Charleston July 13 Atlanta
Georgia, July 19. Colorado Springs Colorado. The 20th.
southwest London kicks in July 26. St. Louis Missouri July 27,
Buffalo New York and Frisco Texas and on the 20 the 27th we
have Frisco Texas. So we have added Buffalo New York to that
list. Go find a the meetup near you at no agenda. meetup.com If
you don't have one, you can make one you can set one up and we'll
help you we'll give you support. Of course the website is
fantastic. And and John, can people get E mailings out if
necessary? Or how are you handling that?
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, depends depends if you have a big meetup
coming up, we can do a special mailing for you in a little
localized area within 150 miles.
Adam Curry: Okay, so, and all of that information, no agenda
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John C. Dvorak: Yeah, we got a couple Oh, this is big news.
Finally one state finally had the gall will replay this.
Marijuana is now legalized in Illinois.
Unknown: Back in the US Illinois has become the 11th state to
legalize recreational marijuana. After Democratic governor JB
Pritzker signed a bill Tuesday allowing for the possession and
purchase of small amounts of the drug. The legislation will
pardon anyone with a nonviolent marijuana conviction under 30
grams. Individuals can petition the court to vacate convictions
that exceed 30 grams, nearly 800,000 marijuana related cases
could be expunged thanks to the new law. The bill also sets up a
program to invest in communities most affected by the war on
drugs. Illinois is the first state to both legalize marijuana
and set up a marketplace through the state legislature. The law
will go into effect on the first day of 2020.
John C. Dvorak: No, congratulations. Couple of
things. One 800,000 People in you know, got arrested or busted
for pot. That's a lot. But the second thing was this is the
only state that did it through the legislature. They didn't
even have a public vote. Oh, we got a yes or no on this
proposition or whatever. Now there's just a legislature.
Okay, well, let's jump on board. We're broke. Let's maybe some
tax monies here we can collect. We're legalizing it starting on
the first of January and 2020. I thought that was commendable
Adam Curry: now. Oh, that is interesting. Do you right. I
don't think it's ever. Yeah. It hasn't gone through legislature
anywhere. And I guess not.
John C. Dvorak: No, it's always been a public vote. Good. I knew
what the public wanted. Yeah. And then of course, nobody
mentioned this on the mainstream media. Well, why
Adam Curry: would we do that? We got to sell Big Pharma, not this
grow it yourself stuff. We can't have people we can't have people
using actual medicine that works. That's no good.
John C. Dvorak: So I mean, well, of course they've banned the E
cigs in San Francisco. I did have finally got a report on it
is sales. Sales.
Unknown: Alright, here we go. San Francisco is set to become
the first US city to ban the sale of E cigarettes. City
officials unanimously voted in favor of the ban Tuesday and
Mayor London breed has indicated she'll sign off on it. The ban
also applies to flavored tobacco products. proponents of the bill
say e cigarettes have not been properly assessed by the Food
and Drug Administration for safety. The spread of vaping
among young people in recent years has raised concerns about
the long term health effects of the products. Opponents of the
bill say the ban could cause people to turn back to
conventional cigarettes. Jul the most popular producer of E
cigarettes is headquartered in San Francisco.
Adam Curry: Yeah, so I don't know exactly what's going on
with this but to me, it seems like this is the way you shore
up the official the official product and official maker of
the product and cut out everybody else who built the
entire industry. That's what this is about. In my opinion
could be not what do you mean it could be you got
John C. Dvorak: where they stopped all sales of everything
including the jewel product
Adam Curry: Yeah, but only briefly so that they can get the
you know, so jewel can fund the research. That's how it works
with the FDA and they bought the company the the the owners of
Marlboro bought jewel for was it seven or $8 billion was some
crazy amount of money. They want to be the rulers they want to
set the the agenda for the entire United States and they
are the going to do this by by screwing everybody over the
people who built the industry Yeah, and
John C. Dvorak: then it is a shocker to you shocked?
Adam Curry: No, but I'm just telling you what it is it's I'm
not shocked I'm I hate this I hate to this would this was a
great business you hate big business I do kinda. I hate big
business with entwined with government, which is what we're
talking here. Ah, that's what I hate.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, that's called corporatism.
Adam Curry: Yeah that's also called fascism. Fascism would be
the better better term. Yeah, that's exactly a shut up slave.
You will smoke what we tell you to smoke. Don't make your don't
make your own e juice Shut up. Tyranny juice. Speaking of e
juice in Austin Pride Month continues sistance Pride
Unknown: Week celebrations are in full swing right now
celebrating the LGBTQ community and now one nine year old is
living near Austin, performing as a drag queen to promote
inclusiveness. Keegan performs in drag as Queen Kiki, a third
grade teacher asked her class what they wanted to be when they
grow up. Keegan wrote in his memory book gender creative.
Keegan says that he can be himself when he's wearing a
dress. He also has a message for anyone struggling with their
identity.
I want the world to know that you can be special and you can
be who you want to be. You can be a vegetarian. You can even be
a veterinary. You can be LGBTQ, easily, Jacqueline jerky.
Now Kagan usually goes by the pronouns he and his his family
says that Keegan has acceptance and support at their school in
their conservative Christian town outside of Austin.
Adam Curry: Arrest these parents right now. Your memory book. I
mean, the story was okay. until you hear the kid talk. And then
you hear the programming. You can be whatever you want to be a
veterinarian.
John C. Dvorak: I'm surprised he wasn't all in for some global
warming stuff. He was programmed. Some of his bragging
about we busted the you know, the school that Gore put
together to propagandize poor 11 year olds whose brains not even
working right? in any real way. And then Kristen, I ran into one
where the right wingers are doing the same thing. So you
feel like you get a hold these kids and then brainwash them
maybe at an early age, it's really deplorable.
Adam Curry: i Yes. And you know, there's it's just the industry
the the, the transformation industry, perhaps we should call
it is there's dangers to it. Now, especially with kids with
young kids, especially when
John C. Dvorak: you start screwing with their hormones.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: that's that's where I think we need to draw the line
but middle and they're gonna do whatever they want. I'm just
saying arrest them.
John C. Dvorak: There'll be some words do attach the word justice
to one of these situations in the
Adam Curry: gender justice. Well, let's let's work on next
year just
John C. Dvorak: is a good one. Gender Justice. Bingo. Gender
Justice.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I think so.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. Were you writing writing it down to
Adam Curry: gender justice? So we have a podcast justice. It's
I like the alliteration of gender justice, though. That's
kind of cool.
John C. Dvorak: Podcast justice, which is an artificial
construct, but I think gender justice has legs.
Adam Curry: We could run with it.
John C. Dvorak: Well, that has legs you usually run with or
maybe
Adam Curry: I'll do some more Austin news since Yeah, we're so
decadent. Here. We don't give a crap. Seems
like there's a new company every day. Well, maybe
John C. Dvorak: not every day, but the competition is
definitely heating
up. Austin's a great choice to expand our services. And I'm
really excited to be here.
Adam Curry: Skip is the latest company to bring two wheels to
the city. It will bring 500 More by Friday,
Unknown: hard with with Austin and the city council to ensure
that we'll be operating as a partnership rather than just as
a group coming in and dropping scooters off
John C. Dvorak: that will total eight companies with wheels on
the ground with two more on the way
Unknown: they want to continue operating here and have been
really responsive. Yep,
Adam Curry: yeah, heard that right. In addition to skip
transportation companies, razor and wind mobility have also been
approved to launch in Austin. When they do come that'll add
700 More scooters to the market. Remember Kathie tovo promises
that's it? For now
Unknown: got isn't as many as we need for this market. The fact
of the matter is people have really enjoyed the ride so far.
Yep. City data shows Austinites have taken over 4 million
scooter trips since the initiative launched last year
while tovo says she hears your concerns she still thinks
there's room to grow over time
that will probably balance out as we really get a sense of what
our market can bear.
Adam Curry: This is a council This is a council member talking
like a tech executive. Mee Mee Mee Yeah, woman. Yeah, she's
talking to a member She's talking like a tech executive,
we'll see what the market can be anything you need your
concerns she she'll think there's room to grow
Unknown: over time that will probably balance out as we
really get a sense of what our market can bear.
Austin City Council is currently working with the companies to
find a way to limit the speed and usage of the scooters. In
certain sections of the city. It's a term called geofencing.
It's already being used at the UT campus. And at this point,
that technology isn't yet developed to be implemented
elsewhere around town.
Adam Curry: So I actually I'm, I'm sad. I haven't played that
because I have something much more important to discuss. There
were two bills that passed for the border. What do we call it?
Border, service, help emergency etc. One in the house, then one
in Senate. The one in the house was voted down by the Senate.
Now the Senate took that had some amendments and some
changes. And
John C. Dvorak: it looks like this Senate or the Texas US
Senate
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, US House of Representatives. This all
happened under yesterday. This would this went down yesterday.
You didn't hear much about it. But I but I want to bring it up
because it shows the difference. Disgusting nature of what of the
narrative that is being played, and what is actually happening
at the border. And what this is all really about. It's about a
four and a half billion dollar legislative bill that what
allocates money to what is happening on the border, nothing
with border security, nothing with a wall or anything like
that. Not even more enforcement. This is all well, you've you've
been hearing it in the news. Here's AOC
Unknown: areas very clear academic consensus on what
constitutes a concentration camp. And that is the mass
detention of a community of people without a trial or due
process. I think it's pretty universally and non
controversial to say that the administration is doing exactly
that and meets the academic requirements for what a
concentration campus you're not comparing this to what happened
in World War Two. No, no, I while concentration camps were
employed. During that time, concentration camps were also
utilized in a wide in all over the world, including in the
United States with a Japanese internment.
Adam Curry: So yeah, that's how horrible everything is that this
is like concentration camps. Okay. Adam Schiff,
John C. Dvorak: let me ask you, President Trump tweeted
yesterday that he's going to delay plans for these ice mass
deportations in major cities across the United States to
allow two weeks for Congress to quote, get together and work out
a solution to the asylum and loophole problems at the
southern border.
Are you open to negotiations on this to avoid those deportations
two weeks from now,
we've always been open to negotiations. In fact, we have
been negotiating and there is a bipartisan package in the Senate
of some emergency supplemental relief to try to provide
assistance. But make no mistake, there is nothing that Congress
is doing or not doing that compels the administration to
have facilities where children don't have blankets or
toothbrushes or soap, and for the vice president or the
president to blame Congress for their own malfeasance is just a
completely besides the point and unethical and unacceptable. They
could cure this problem today. But they don't want to because,
frankly, the cruelty is part of their policy. It's part of what
they think will deter migrants from coming here. It's part of
what they think will motivate the Congress to build a wall.
And to use these children that way is I just think immoral, not
Adam Curry: it this is this is this is him projecting because
he is in fact, using children this way in a moral fashion,
because this is not about the children. This is what the
immigration issue is really about money, big ass money to
$2,881,552,000 is going to the partners of the Office of
Refugee Resettlement. These are mainly religious organizations
Catholic or a lot of Republican or oriented organizations who
are getting this money for refugee and entrant
John C. Dvorak: assistance. Yeah, we've discussed this
you've discussed I know but I
Adam Curry: gotta keep bringing it up. Because now we have the
picture of the Father and the daughter drowned face down in
the water crossing the Rio Grande what and whatever they
were crossing. It's disgusting, because you're just doing this
for your big donors, all sides.
John C. Dvorak: I'm not gonna argue this, but I want to play
this. This is the democracy and I don't know it was on the show.
But this is a teaser. This is another angle, the same story,
but this one was the ruler of the month.
Unknown: I'm a former child incarcerated during World War
Two. This is a photograph of me when I was in prison. 75 years
ago, 120,000 of us were removed from our homes and forcefully
incarcerated in prison camps across the country. We're here
today to protest the repetition of history.
John C. Dvorak: Was that all about fishing in history?
Adam Curry: Yes. Concentration Camps baby.
John C. Dvorak: No, it's reached. He said there was
120,000 was removed from our homes and put in detention camp
and we don't want to have a rapid repetition of history. And
I'm thinking, where's this happening? So it's being removed
from their homes.
Adam Curry: They don't think well, the the Trump promised he
was going to remove people from their homes. What hasn't done
John C. Dvorak: much about that? Well, you know why? And he
hasn't removed him to take them put them in a concentration
camp, he was removed to deport them.
Adam Curry: Yeah. But you know, why is because all just like,
the era so called Iran bombing, the targets were all announced.
It wasn't it wasn't supposed to be out in the news that he was
going to do this. But you know, someone leaked it, of course.
And so this is not the time to do a raid on anything if they're
expecting you to show up. Yeah, well, that's for sure. Remember,
this is a four actually $4.6 billion bill, all for
toothbrushes and water and beds. Okay. 27 million shall be
available for the purposes of adding beds. Of which no less
than, let's see what he have. We have 8 million available for
case management. I mean, the money is going to the Office of
Refugee Resettlement. The bulk of the money is going to the
prison complex, who run these who run these things, which, of
course can only be Republicans. Now, Obama was all over in
Houston, who he said them real poverty. So let's not make any,
let's not be honest about it. This is huge money, a billion
dollars a lot. $4 billion is a lot a lot. People just you get
used to these numbers, a billion here a billion 1000 million in
the wind.
John C. Dvorak: So they can afford them. Obviously, the
majors cost a lot of money.
Adam Curry: They need to port you know, they they send them
off to Maine and Maine needs. Maine needs immigrants. Oh,
we'll send them over there. The trafficking is legalized, the
trafficking is being done by the US government. The trafficking
is the Office of Refugee Resettlement of it, stop it,
stop what stopped the immigration.
Now they're not going to do it because neither party has any
benefit. And honestly, white and black people in America don't
want to work on the farm. And I want to pick fruit. Does another
issue with that. So everyone can be all high and mighty. But
John C. Dvorak: that's another form of decadence.
Adam Curry: Thank you very much. Exactly. decadence.
John C. Dvorak: Oh, I hope you got that. You got that off
Adam Curry: your chest. Yeah. Well, it's, we've done it many
times before. And, you know, AOC was out there like we I mean,
that's exactly what she sounds like. I'd have to say she'd
voted against the bill. So I'll give her props for that. But not
because she really understands and she thinks is just, you
know, concentration camps.
John C. Dvorak: Concentration Camp
Adam Curry: and then fine repeat no
John C. Dvorak: repetition of history.
Adam Curry: Finally, for me, you probably saw Bitcoin, which you
know, I've become a maximalist a year ago, shot up to was like
almost almost 1400 went to 13,800 has dropped down a bit
now. Not quite sure exactly what the catalyst is, although I have
a feeling that whatever China decides to say after the weekend
with the G 20. Will, will give us some clues. But it's also
gaining real legitimacy as a hedge strategy. This is
Christina Hooper from Invesco on CNBC.
Unknown: What do you make of the safe haven trade, which has been
gaining momentum over the last week? If you look at the
Japanese yen, the 10 year yield breaking below 2% Again, and
even gold at a six year high?
Well, certainly there are a lot of safe haven trades. And I've
heard some strategists argue in fact that Bitcoin is a safe
haven trade or perhaps an indicator that we're getting
close. I think that Bitcoin might be a sign of fears about
recession. But but certainly it makes sense in this environment
that we see investors looking for safe havens, but I do think
it's a mistake with the Fed signaling its willingness to be
a lot more dovish.
Adam Curry: So it's being taken seriously as a as an asset,
something that you can do safer safe haven trade.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, like Beanie Babies.
Adam Curry: No, no see, like the tulip trade would be more
appropriate people said Bitcoin it's like the tulip mania. The
tulips never came back and Beanie Babies left and didn't
really come back. They kind of came back No, not like this
John C. Dvorak: Bitcoin has not left. In the first place it goes
up and down. Well, let's quote Johnson. Back down to 25 cents
Adam Curry: then. Yeah, what's what's the bottom John called
the bottom for us? Just
John C. Dvorak: five cents. 25
Adam Curry: cents. Okay.
John C. Dvorak: Beautiful shirt, by the way is also the bottom
for Twitter. So find they can dig in meet and greet. It's down
there. I do have one kind of clip I've been trying to get rid
of but it's always cracked me up because I see had this actually
visually you got to see it. They had the first services of Notre
Dame like a week and a half ago, two weeks ago. Yeah. And
everybody was in there with hard hats on it. And I for some
reason, see a bunch of priests and altar boys and everybody's
hard heads on. I just cracked me up.
Notre DOM held its first mass since a fire ravaged the Paris
Cathedral in April. For security reasons. Only 30 people were
able to attend all of them. Employees of the church. Members
of the congregation wore hard hats, including the Archbishop
of Paris who led the service.
Adam Curry: Well, I'm glad you got that clip off your chest.
Yeah, I
John C. Dvorak: did. Finally,
Adam Curry: keep your eye on the G 20. According to the New York,
former New York banker, China will accept our terms and we
will see an end to the tariff battle. And that will be good.
John C. Dvorak: There was nothing nothing's going to
happen. He says
Adam Curry: it's going to happen. He says Zhi Jing ping
will say I can work with this guy. We can work with these
terms.
John C. Dvorak: We'll see. Okay, we'll see. Hopefully, that's the
case that will that will mark it go crazy.
Adam Curry: No, it's a small prediction from the New York
banker.
And
stay tuned for end of show mixes we've got Jesse Coyne Nelson,
and a classic Chris Wilson, and a drone again, as requested and
coming to you from the fringe of oxygen from the frontier of
Austin, Texas, right where the poop is taking place. In the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry.
John C. Dvorak: And from Northern Silicon Valley. There's
no poop in necessarily where I am. But it can happen any
minute. I'm John C. Dvorak.
Adam Curry: Stay tuned for a hog story on no agenda. stream.com
Thanks for listening. We return on Sunday until then, adios mo
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John C. Dvorak: bing. Like that. We just dropped at the end of
anybody's clip bidding. You should make that as a little
bitty clip. Bingo Boom shakalaka I think we need to incorporate
Adam Curry: that into our vocabulary. Go ahead, make my
day go.
Unknown: Away, buddy.
Adam Curry: Bingo boom Jaga
Unknown: I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass and
I'm all out of being great,
John C. Dvorak: please dropped at the end of anybody's clip.
Whatever it is.
Unknown: Taking cars off me again being
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, being open
John C. Dvorak: like that. What we've got here is failure
Unknown: you can't handle the angle
John C. Dvorak: the first rule of fight club is you do not talk
about being surely can't be serious.
Adam Curry: I am serious. And don't call me
Unknown: a contender a corrupt been somebody
instead of being
John C. Dvorak: please dropped at the end of anybody's clip.
Adam Curry: Bingo Boom shakalaka
Unknown: you gotta say I'm a human being God dammit. My life
has value me get your mass balls
all last is slavery
Adam Curry: and stop spreading fake news of discectomy does not
involve cutting your nuts off because then I'm gonna have to
listen to Brian Brushwood complain to me for another five
years as it no you know what it is? Please tell all the
newcomers just theory.
John C. Dvorak: I discovered a book in the 1920s that I still
have a copy of and it's a doctor about medical procedures, and
vasectomy. These are not new, and they were used in the 20s as
a use fix it would make you the vasectomy was two men were told,
get a vasectomy and you will look younger. It's like It's
like the another one that came along some years later was the
lobotomy. There was actually a fetish thing and there was
apparently some guy in Central Park that would give you you get
lobotomies without having to really go into the doctor's
office, they would slip a needle behind your eyeball. And the
thing was, it gets was curved history where they could
actually Nick cut off the little piece of the brain that hooks
the front to the back to this done to I don't know middle aged
guys, I'm not sure what the age is worth. But I started noticing
this with men who had had vasectomies, and I will say
this, not all of them, but most of them start to look a little
bit like a lesbian
Adam Curry: there's a uniform lesbian look.
John C. Dvorak: There is I think, and at least I think
there's a uniform lesbian
Adam Curry: I think I just think it's the Krispies but that's
pretty much it.
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