John C. Dvorak: arrest him.
Unknown: Adam Curry, John C Dvorak.
Adam Curry: It's Sunday June 23 2019. This is your award winning
get my nation media assassination episode 1149
Unknown: This is no agenda.
Adam Curry: Back at home base in the serve Blake, soundproof
studios and broadcasting live from the frontier of Austin,
Texas capital, the drone Star State in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam curry
John C. Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where
I'm awaiting the 10 cars effort to go zooming by any minute. I'm
Jhansi Dvorak,
Unknown: Raglan buzzkill
Adam Curry: thought it was that it hasn't been 10 It's been less
or it hasn't been a 10 cars less
John C. Dvorak: than nine. It's been nine by Dawn, I've noticed
about starting a couple of weeks ago during the summer. It's been
10.
Adam Curry: Why is that all the producers who aren't donating
that are in the 10th car. They're on their way somewhere
else? Is that what's going on? Is that what happens in the
summer.
John C. Dvorak: In the summer, they'll jump into card number 10
And off they go.
Unknown: Yay. Yay. Yay.
John C. Dvorak: It takes forever jeez.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Okay, I got some soundproofing panels
finally. Oh, how do they sound? Well, you tell me how does it
sound? I can't exactly they don't make noise. They take it
away. These are huge sur Blake. His his smokin hot girlfriend
had just I guess she works at some company. That does sound
proofing Yeah. And she had a whole stack left over and these
are shoot what are these like? 123 They're four feet by two and
a half I think almost Yeah. And he sent me the six of them and
so they're just leaning against the wall now but when they're up
on the wall would be even better.
John C. Dvorak: does need to lean this I probably better
Adam Curry: habit. I think it'll look better if they're hanging
in.
John C. Dvorak: I don't know if you fall down or something to
thing lean in there is gonna flow you're gonna catch your
fall and you'll be okay you want to break your hip.
Adam Curry: It just looks better if it's against the wall now it
looks like a still a temporary studio. It is oh it's not no we
own this place. We're not moving feet first baby will stay in any
room to the wall. Well, I can look I just got home and there
are two big boxes with three each and suddenly after I
rebuilt the studio for the fourth time in 10 days. Ah man
that you know we got home.
John C. Dvorak: What don't you just do the podcast on an
iPhone? Would
Adam Curry: you work for the IRS?
John C. Dvorak: All this gear for it. It makes it makes sense.
You use an iPhone. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I heard you do it on the iPhone. Lots of people do it
on the iPhone. You don't need this gear. You'll need no
deductions for that. Exactly. Yeah, so we got home Yeah,
yesterday I landed mana we land. We landed to two but it took a
long time to to get out of the International Terminal Austin's
big international terminal, which consists of a small haul.
And in a baggage carousel.
John C. Dvorak: You flew a direct flight to Austin Yeah,
and you know we went through this no lady always went through
Atlanta or
Adam Curry: snow Norwegian Air remember Norwegian Right, right.
I'm sorry, you took it from guy we actually didn't take a step
back. So we flew from Fido in Portugal on Friday. So the day
after the show, you know I took down the studio once again. I
put it in my bag and and so we took EasyJet to Faro because we
had the Saturday 10am flight from Gatwick and so we we stayed
at the airport hotel first of all I have to say in Europe our
experience with Gatwick and with Belfast and with Faro at any
point when you're entering or exiting the air side of the
airport right so you're going through either customs or
security or both. They force you through shopping Oh yeah. But I
mean but not a little bit
John C. Dvorak: keeps an airport going.
Adam Curry: If I know people who are allergic to perfume then
probably they would probably just puke and die and you will
see you walk out of the security area or the customs area it
doesn't matter whether you're entering the country or leaving
it or any content at these airports are all the same like a
walk through here you you go around about a roundabout and
then to the right and then finally you're in an open area
and there's more shops. But this forcing you through the duty
free
John C. Dvorak: went through Gatwick last time and I noticed
that there's a lot of shopping there. But this isn't you have
to walk through it. It's like they have to we have some
designers from casinos. Yes. Like many the Vegas casinos to
get to the hotel desk. You gotta walk through the casinos
Exactly.
Adam Curry: Like they it's almost like Ikea where you can't
just get something and go you have to go through the whole
path and they have a path. So that was just odd. And so we
decided to stay at a hotel at the airport and there's three of
The main three a Gatwick as a Hampton Inn. There's a Yotel
which I think you stayed at a hotel last time you to Gatwick
John C. Dvorak: New York I think in New York I think at Gatwick
who wasn't a util someone else's little very small rooms but
comfortable
Adam Curry: so we we stayed at the block below sea hotel
John C. Dvorak: maybe what we stayed at Now
Adam Curry: I love this idea because you're basically renting
this highly designed packed with technology little block of space
which is completely designed for aesthetics the shower which is a
no wait a minute it was a it was a brand shower. And I forgot it
was like
John C. Dvorak: very convenient right over the bed.
Adam Curry: This shower assaulted me and got into shower
and, and it's very dark, everything's dark marble or
whatever the dark the stone is that you can't really see very
well and there's it four knobs and your turn one is like right
in your face should change that. It's coming from from above,
you'd even see the the extra rain shower on top and then all
of a sudden scalding hot is just not built for it. It's
completely built for the way it looks. Not really for
ergonomics. I'm tripping over stuff it's but it was cute. I
liked the idea. I think Did you check in you check out done
perfect right into the right into your your checking,
checking aisle and Norwegian Air and gotta tell you, I like him.
John C. Dvorak: Now that should give you a free flight for this
promotion.
Adam Curry: I don't think so. I'm gonna meet free anything
John C. Dvorak: that gives you they get here to think about
these. If they gave you a free flight, they'd be in the red.
Adam Curry: Probably. It was the Dreamliner, which is nice. That
I have to say for plastic airplane. It's very, very
comfortable aircraft. So that was really, really quite good.
Here's what I asked, actually, Horowitz called me yesterday, he
had some messing around with his setup again and broke it or
whatever you do call Adam.
John C. Dvorak: I've never seen a guy futz around with stuff as
much as he reminds
Adam Curry: me of me actually. futz around and then you break
stuff and like, how do I fix it? And it's, he's wrestling with,
he's like, Well, I just moved everything to Windows and those
type of problems. I said, What? It's yeah, it's you figured you
just move from Mac to Windows on a on a Saturday, and it will be
easy. Is that what you thought? Anyway, that wasn't what it's
about. I asked him the same question. I'm gonna ask you.
You've been away from home or the kids stayed home or one kid
stayed in your house? You came back, right? Yeah. Now does your
kid then have something you know? Like some some in the in
the fridge a little stock? Just a couple of things like a little
sandwich or something because you flew and you're hungry. And
you know, they thought about you? Do you kids ever do that?
John C. Dvorak: No. Okay. Does that ever happen?
Adam Curry: three out of three it just, or oh, it's the same
answer. I was just wondering. I had high hopes.
John C. Dvorak: You're a dreamer.
Adam Curry: I'm an idiot. Apparently, like you get picked
up at the airport. Not even that she was asleep. At home. Yeah,
oh, well. So it's not just me good. It's good to know. All
right. I do have a lot. Oh, actually, while we're, while
we're talking about airports, you know, again, all this facial
recognition stuff that that we went through it all of the all
of the European airports and it's almost seems a little
unsophisticated when you come back to the states and you know,
there's it's just not it's just not organized well and and
Austin Bergstrom Airport has it. They had a luggage problem I saw
in the council meeting that they have there's $2 million
earmarked for the new baggage handling system and I figured
out why they had for international flights come into
this new international terminal which isn't really ready yet.
It's kind of off in the corner, and the bags got clogged up.
They were clogging up down at the bottom. You know this bags
literally flying through the air as they pop down, hit another
bag and then the thing stops and then there's no one to to unclog
it. So passengers are clamoring up up the baggage carousel and
tossing stuff and people are cheering when it starts again.
It was a nightmare. Nightmare. We got one of our two bags and
then like
Unknown: a gentleman airlines unclogged that show.
Adam Curry: So we waited like an extra 45 minutes just for one
bag because it was clogged somewhere else. Not prepared
here in Austin, ready for the onslaught. But Delta who I used
to love flying, you know, I used to fly Delta from Austin to
Atlanta, Atlanta to Europe, but typically to speak ball and then
from people you can get anywhere you want. And now that we have
the direct flight, which is cheaper than the Delta slash
KLM, I prefer to go to the UK. But there was an interview with
the Delta CEO Ed Bastian. And I don't know if you saw that they
had a problem recently where they couldn't board anybody
their village? Yes, it was, was a glitch there, their boarding
or their app, which most people use these days, I don't we I
like to print them off. And I don't have a phone with an app
to use anyway. So I just scan it from my piece of paper,
John C. Dvorak: I did test those people use their phone for this
sort of, well, it's
Adam Curry: pretty much standard fare now. The app was no longer
bringing up boarding passes. So they had to, they had to resort
back. Well do you have can you prove that you're on a previous
leg? You know, huge delay, big problems. But oh, don't worry.
We're the technological airplane here. With the technological
aviation company with airline of the future.
Unknown: Terminal F is our latest international concourse.
We put it up a number of years ago, and we've just converted it
to a full biometrics facility. So when you get out of the car,
you never have to show your papers you know because we use
facial recognition on the way and you can check check in you
can check your bags all through facial go through security.
Adam Curry: Oh, by the way, I cannot get through this clip
without laughing every single time this Jumoke says facial he
just keeps saying well we do facial this and facial that does
the guy ever watch porn does he know that this is just not an
okay thing to say through the
Unknown: checkpoint political plane and go off to your
international destination. And when you return, you have those
same opportunities. The next big thing for us obviously is the
domestic TSA and we're working with TSA on checkpoint, anything
we can do to expedite it's not only more effective, but it's
also more efficient. Clear we have already with precheck. But
this this is this is a separate technology that we've worked
together with CBP on. We're still rolling
Adam Curry: CBP is Customs and Border Patrol. So they're in
cahoots, they're colluding with the government on facial
Unknown: out International, but I think they're going to be fast
forward. Okay. So it sounds like it might be a three to five year
journey on this hard, hard to hard to put a timeline on it.
Because it's really the government needs the needs to
own the technology, then they own the actual asset. We operate
with any pitfalls that we need to be aware of going into
something like that.
Adam Curry: Let me think what could possibly go wrong? What
kind of pitfalls could there be
Unknown: after like that? Now, I think everyone is sensitive
about facial. Certainly, you know, with privacy.
John C. Dvorak: I could tell you something right now, right? This
guy has a bet with somebody else. One of his buddies. Oh,
yeah, you're
Adam Curry: right. We're just a facial 20 times and I won't even
crack a smile, man. It'd be so cool.
John C. Dvorak: We'll do it man. Yeah, 50 bucks knew that
Adam Curry: he went wrong. But he went over the top and he
says, we're very sensitive about facial. He's like, No, man, I'm
so good. Yeah,
Unknown: any pitfalls that we need to be aware of going into
something like that a chapter like collusion? No, I think
everyone is, you know, you know, sensitive about facial, you
know, certainly, you know, with privacy being top of the list
for technology companies wide, wide scale. You know, facial
recognition falls into that facial for this with the CBP
that we never actually retain that that image. That's all, you
know, through the government. The government obviously has
facial recognition already. Because when you go through a
normal passport screening authority, matching it against
against the facial figure,
Adam Curry: when we asked as citizens of Gitmo nation that
this was okay for them. For them. Them's being the
government to share our facial with commercial companies. Was
there an inquisition? Was there a petition?
John C. Dvorak: Oh, that must have been when you sign your IRS
forms. There's probably thing in their user agreement.
Adam Curry: Yeah. So wrong. I'm really not for it. And I don't
know if there's any way to stop it for
John C. Dvorak: it or against it doesn't make any difference.
This is a foregone conclusion. Nobody said nobody's bitching
about it. So if there's nobody bitching about there's no
protests. Well, nothing going on and say you complaining and lone
voice. It's done.
Adam Curry: Well, I'm going to vote with my feet. I'm not going
to fly Delta. Now. I'm sure this is a losing proposition because
everyone will go for it.
John C. Dvorak: But people love this sort of thing. It's so
Adam Curry: sad. It truly is and and I can see the writing on the
wall. It's going to we're getting to a point where I with
my Nokia II 71 which provides no facial
John C. Dvorak: arrest him
Adam Curry: I'm now suspicious This.
John C. Dvorak: All right, right? What does always been
trimmed we're
Adam Curry: getting now we're getting to this point where you
will be deemed suspicious if you don't carry a smartphone. In
fact, you know, I have a beef here. Okay, Joe Rogan had some
guy on. Google gets to work at Area 51. And they're talking
about technology and how it's unavoidable and extra
terrestrial stuff and how we're all going to succumb to
whatever, whatever our overlords want us to do with smartphones
and all this stuff and, and, you know, this is just a part of
modern life this is Joe's take as a part of modern life where
you used to have to fight off lions and tigers, and now you
have to fight off the facial. I'm not exactly sure I didn't
follow the whole conversation, but I pulled the clip, which was
very, irking irksome to me,
Unknown: I don't think so. I think I think when it comes,
we're going to embrace it. We're gonna embrace it the same way
embrace cell phones, the same way embrace television, there's
gonna be a few holdouts I don't even know an email address, man.
Those are those. There's a few and far between the good luck
with that fuckface go move to the woods. Ted Kaczynski. Yeah,
I was just gonna throw Ted. Ted Kaczynski was right. This is
something that I think about sometimes when I get really
high, that Ted Kaczynski was a part of the Harvard LSD studies.
This has been proven Ted Kaczynski, they cooked his
fucking brain when he was at Harvard. And then when he went
over to Berkeley and became a professor, his goal was to make
enough money so that he could implement this program and live
in the woods and then write his manifesto and start killing
people that were involved in propagating technology. Yeah,
Adam Curry: Joe. No, Joe, stop. Stop, stop, stop. Yeah, his
brain was fried. It was an MK Ultra program that he was in. He
did not go to Harvard to get rich to live in the woods and
kill everyone implementing the technology. I just want to set
you straight on that being a a student of Professor Ted, and
you might want to read his anti tech revolution book, which came
out two years ago. What happened is he saw he is brilliant, saw
the writing on the wall that the technological society would fail
in such a spectacular fashion that hundreds of millions, if
not billions, of people will be affected and die. And we're well
on our way see facials. It's just It starts with the facial,
it ends with your death. And he wrote the manifesto. No one
would publish it. No one would publish his manifesto. And then
he said, If the New York Times and Washington Post, do not
publish this, I will start killing people. And he started
by sending letter bombs to university professors, deans and
administrators and airline executives you not bomber not
because these people were were propagating the technology. And
they eventually published his manifesto. And he stopped
killing people. That's the true story.
John C. Dvorak: Well, the stories, the stories, the
stories always more fair, pisses
Adam Curry: me off. jokes, jokes, whatever it becomes,
John C. Dvorak: ya know, and it's just okay. What Okay, well,
that's interesting. I remember I used to throw these parties at
the Comdex shows massive parties for the party sponsors. Sorry,
Adam Curry: what kind of parties just the giant parties. You
organized parties?
John C. Dvorak: Oh, yeah. Oh, I had. So I don't know this. Three
people who did would meet Jerry Pournelle. And will Hearst and
we found sponsors and partners. That sounds like a party. It was
pretty, pretty good. And so we'd have these massive parties. We
have secondary parties. You have like three layers. It was almost
like the this Limelight in New York. No, there's a back room.
And there's another one. So what So these parties kind of came
and went they did it for about six or seven years. And then so
one day this guy's telling me of all Yeah, these parties used to
do. They're fantastic. And he's going on and on about one of the
parties. He says it was really spectacular when you came in on
the helicopter. And I'm, I can't even imagine what he was doing.
I mean, I for one thing I've never come in on a helicopter to
a party. I think it's cool. I wasn't gonna deny it. Good idea.
definitely cool. But I'm thinking would somebody come in
on a helicopter
Adam Curry: became a cop. This became a thing where it's always
to where are you at a party. So this became a thing where hey,
man, remember DeVore X party with a helicopter? And everyone
goes, Yeah, that was the best.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, great. So these things just become they
take on a life of their own. It's just like to watch it just
morph into something. That's total bull crap. You just saw
that within a very small way with Rogan there.
Adam Curry: Yeah. And I like Joe, but come on away. When he
John C. Dvorak: does that. He has a huge audience. Everybody
hears him and that's what that's what they believe. That's what
they repeat what they believe. Exactly. So you have to be very
respond. Ansible is gonna sit here and as a podcaster you have
responsibilities you know, you're responsible.
Adam Curry: You got responsibilities and
obligations. Yes. Okay, I got a little Expo say I want to do but
I'd like to I'd like you to do something. First of all, we're
going to ease into it. So what do you got? Give me something.
It is
John C. Dvorak: something you need anything just when it's
somebody that's going to go a long ways or just have something
stupid. No, just Mazie Hirono kind of the idiot that is going
to now go after the head of ice.
Unknown: Mr. Robbins, would you send your child to the far seas?
Adam Curry: That way? We have to set this up. Mazie Hirono. Is
she a senator?
John C. Dvorak: She's the senator from Hawaii, Hawaii.
Yeah, she's pretty dumb. I believe that Tulsi Gabbard is
only running for president so she can take her job the next go
around because she should somebody has replaced this
woman. And she's asking somebody, the head of ice,
whether he would send his children to the cat to the not
the concentration camps, which is obviously the word of the
day. Yes. To these camps. Like it's like asking somebody that
you would you send your children to Alcatraz? I mean, where would
you send your children to SingSing? Why is she asked it,
it's got nothing to do with it. I
Adam Curry: think she's expecting that we have these
block hotels, BOC at the border, you know where it's a nice
little little cool, you can go to your technology, you can hang
out until your paperwork is done. Yeah, that makes sense.
Maisie
Unknown: Mr. Robbins, would you send your child to FRCS?
Again, I think we're missing the point. These individuals are
there because they have broken a law. There has to be a process.
They have broken a law. Let me as deemed so by the president
with his
No, ma'am. They're there for violation of Title eight of the
immigration of the US and Nationality Act. Okay, they're
eight USC 1325. That's illegal entry is both a criminal and
civil violation. They are in those FRCS pending the outcome
of that civil immigration process. They have broken the
law.
Well, these are mainly my my understanding is that under a
zero tolerance, these are no longer single civil proceedings.
But in fact, for criminal proceedings,
they're both so they were criminal proceedings when the
Border Patrol prosecuted them. But at the conclusion of that
process, once the individual came into ICE custody, they
would go through administrative proceedings.
I'm confused.
John C. Dvorak: So she starts off by saying the only reason
that we're picking people up at the border is not because
they're breaking any laws. There's no law. It's because
Trump said to pick them up.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah. The mean the Hitler guy.
Yeah, Hitler. Yeah, that guy? Well, she is she is part of a
very big problem. In fact, all of this immigration, because
that's pretty much all that we keep talking about, or we, the M
fi them, it's just all I mean, it has been immigration,
immigration, immigration. For how long
John C. Dvorak: is Trump got in
Adam Curry: in that kind of the yes, in Trump God and kind of
the top stories all immigration, immigration, immigration, and
it's all about a class of people who, and it's not a not a, you
know, a single color or anything, it's a class of people
who come in claim asylum, and because of a very fixable law,
very fixable. They can't be detained after a certain amount
of time. And then they have the absolute legal right to be
released into the country on their own. What's the word? I'm
looking for? Rick? cognizance, thank you their own
recognizance, and they just have to come back for their court
date, which a high percentage never does. And so that's how
you get a lot of smart was come back, no, lots and lots of lots
of illegal immigrants in the country. And the Democrats have
been using this as a major talking point a major strategy
for for really, for one thing, as far as we can see, I think
you'll agree John, is for a new class of voters.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. And that's why they want to get them
driver's license. So they can say show the driver's license
with an address on it and the voter registration, people just
let them vote. And it's just to get votes. And it's really
advocrats strategy.
Adam Curry: Really, it's really that cynical. Some that's kind
of a question. Yes. There's no other reason. It's not really
for compassionate reasons. A
John C. Dvorak: lot of the real dumb ones like Maisie are
probably sincere when it was some of these thoughts of theirs
because they're naive and they don't see it that way. And it's
just people being people and we don't need borders anyway. No
borders, no walls. What do we need borders for? Right? You
know, if somebody wants to come to California and work, because
they're going to be working and paying taxes is, yeah, there's
no reason we shouldn't let them just waltz in. Well, listen, he
borders and controls and people, you know, people aren't illegal.
Yeah. And there's a group like that Sure did. But I'd say the
smoked, I'd say the smart ones, the Chuck Schumer's. And then
Nancy Pelosi has know exactly what they're up to.
Adam Curry: And do you think that this alienates any groups
in the United States that who are
John C. Dvorak: the ones who could went through the hassle of
becoming citizens?
Adam Curry: Or maybe some existing citizens and this is
this is I got kind of a I got an interesting, DM. Friday, as as
I'm packing up the studio, and I get a DM from producer Moe, Moe
Moe, most from Virginia. He's also mo facts on YouTube, but I
didn't know this at the time. And most black he's a black
producer of the no agenda show. You always got a break for that.
Because what do we have three? That we know we have
John C. Dvorak: the Incognito who knows and goes, donate
anymore and he hates us.
Adam Curry: He hates me. I think he hates me wasn't that? Well,
your conclusion? For some reason?
John C. Dvorak: He might. He might. I think it's just
general.
Adam Curry: So mo, mo is an adult most 38. He's got four
kids. No, he has a high tech job. And but he DMS me says
Adam, I need to talk to you. And a little bit about Moe key found
no agenda just before the tour around the 2016 election before
it and get this. He found the show by googling news with no
agenda. And so he found the show and the accident, and he
listened to a couple and then he said, he said you have me at
reptile people. So he was all in once we once we start talking
about reptile people. But he's he's been a very faithful
listener. And I, I think he sent me a clip or two way back of a
years ago. So he kind of reintroduce himself. He said
that I want to explain a little bit about what's going on with
this hr 40. And the reparations. And this is what we played on
the last show we talked to in fact, I played there, Burgess
Owens, the former NFL football player who was one of the two
Republican sponsored black people testifying. And this hr
40 was intended to, to determine two things one, should there be
a a full on reparations hearing? And to what do reparations look
like? Is it an amount or you know, who's it for, et cetera,
et cetera. And he says, yeah, and after listening to the show,
is I really want to help you understand a couple of things.
And this wound up being a we really didn't stop direct
message him for probably five of the nine hours on the flight had
Wi Fi and the free Wi Fi in the flight. We and so we're just
direct messaging, and he really rolled out for me what's going
on, which I think, is probably one of the most certainly
interesting, maybe important political stories of this very
moment in time, not covered by the M five M at all. In fact, if
anything, it's being obfuscated, and and in with intent to
confuse people who, certainly people who are not black to
understand what is really going on. And I'll say up front, I
understand the irony of a white man trying to explain the black
man's problem. So I'm fully prepared to take some shit. And
this is just what I understand and how I and how I read this
story. And I have some clips and stuff to kind of backup what's
going on here. But this is such and such. So that's a term I'm
looking for. This is about black America, but the real black
America and there's a distinction because the problem
for the Democratic Party right now as we speak, is there's no
unity in the black community, which is no surprise to you. And
I know we've been saying this about LGBTQ q ia p k for years.
But you know, this is not You can't just say this group of
people here is one group, and they all think the same. And
this goes for black America as well. And he started off by
saying, I want you to understand, Adam, that
reparations in this case, is not black people looking for a
handout. This is not an Obama phone moment. This is for
services rendered to the Democrat Party. And once he said
once he gave me that line, I'm like, Oh, okay. What exactly are
we talking about here? He says the Democrat Party has care It
black Americans. And I'm going to define what that means, in a
moment. On an under a lot of these are his words. And
actually, I wrote a lot of this down in the show notes and go
back and take a look at it. They've kept black America,
black people on the Democratic plantation. This is not like
any, anything that you haven't heard before. anything new.
Yeah,
John C. Dvorak: you know, you don't have to make too many
excuses for this. Just roll this out, because I think everyone
was on board with you doing this.
Adam Curry: So black people want to be taken seriously as a
voting bloc, just like every other voting bloc, and they feel
like they're not being taken seriously. They'd actually like
to see how bad the Democrats really hate Trump. And then this
is not the handout that some people are thinking it is. But
what are you really prepared to do for black people this time
around, because we've been with you, we've stayed with you.
We've done everything we can. And the past the Democratic
candidates, they could just show up to a black church on Sunday
before elections and up, we got the black vote covered
everybody. It's all good. But the black people have been taken
granted by taking for granted by the Dems for such a long time.
And Obama, as you and I would have suspected was the absolute
last straw. And people were so done with that Democrat Party.
And in fact, here's Reverend Manning, I think this is a clip
we've played in the past, our good old Reverend Manning
explaining exactly the problem black people have with Obama,
Unknown: we gave him everything that he needed to succeed. We
gave them everything he needed to lead his people. We gave him
everything he needed to help black people. We gave them
everything he needed to change the world and the dynamics of
black people. We gave them everything to heal slavery, we
gave him the presidency. And we gave him the Nobel Prize for
Peace. We gave him
Adam Curry: the megaphone. So this is the problem. And they
realize Obama was not a real black American, has no African
American roots from slavery, or the term that and this is I
think, where that kind of triggered him to reach out. I've
heard this term DDoS, that descendent of slaves. Turns out
the full term is ados. A DOS, it's however you want to say it,
which is American descendants of slavery, which is, you know, I
think most people can point to their descendants from slavery
and say, This is who I am. I'm a black American. So in 2016, we
have Trump, he wins the presidency, the Democrats are
making black Americans feel that it's kind of the black man's
fault for Trump getting in. And if you listen to Yvette Cornell,
who we've played her clips on the show previously, I think in
February, it was it came down to one thing Trump said in his
campaign, one thing, what I
Unknown: want to talk about today is Donald Trump, you knew
that we're going to take Donald Trump for me to have a
conversation today. And I really am disappointed. I can't even
say I'm disappointed at the reaction to what Donald Trump
said, because I'm really not. I really expected black people to
go in on Donald Trump when he said that we're poor, because
part of the problem is that we're delusional. Like, we don't
believe we're poor. We can give you all type of statistics,
talking about how you can give, you should give Black people
opportunities, you should help black people. But the minute
Donald Trump says you're poor, what do you have to lose? Black
people had a problem. And it makes no sense. Donald Trump
said black people are poor. He said, your schools are failing,
what do you have to lose? And that's just the truth. And you
know, I was watching MSNBC earlier this week, and I saw
this woman, I don't know who she was on MSNBC. I don't know if
I've seen her before. I obviously didn't remember her.
But I saw her say, Well, you know, he's he's being
condescending to black people. And not all black people are
poor. And I'm kind of sick of hearing that. Because most black
people are poor. Or in the working class, like that's
poverty, we don't have any inheritance. We have failing
schools, there are no jobs. That means that we're a part of a
permanent underclass. I don't care what the girl on MSNBC
tells you who wears a nice weed, I don't care what she says,
we're in part of a permanent underclass right now. And you
don't have to you don't have to trust what I'm saying to you.
The only thing you have to do is look at the data. Don't look at
me just look at the data.
Adam Curry: So this was 2016 and Yvette Cornell, along with
Antonio Moore, who is he's a lawyer, black lawyer, and he's,
he's done some documentaries. And together they started the
ADOS. And there's ADF ados. One Oh, one.com and they have an
actual agenda. And they and the whole point is Hey, you want to
keep us voting Democrat after all these disappointments. What
we need is we need something real, something tangible, show
us the money And that's how reparations came into play. But
if you really look at the agenda, it's please give us
something that is only for black Americans who are descendants of
slavery, who helped go built to help build the United States.
And the end the end, the argument is reparations are paid
to many groups, Jews, Palestinians. Now, right now,
the New York Times wrote about gay reparations for all of the
troubles the gays have been through. So there's always talk
about paying people and it's actual dollars being paid. We
pay, don't we pay Holocaust survivors still doesn't make us
pay Holocaust survivors money? Not that I know. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, Obama had put millions of dollars out there for reparation
payments, and Palestinians has all kinds of money. We're always
paying somebody, and everyone's and everyone's very open to
that. But when it comes to this specific group, and they want to
be identified as such, which is important, they want to be
identified as direct descendants from slavery, not like Kamala
Harris, who's black or brown, whatever you want to call it,
which people tell she's African American. No, she's not. She's
Caribbean, as from Jamaica, and West Indies, and from India. So
they come up with this concept. And the first thing I say is we
have a big ask and our ask is put us in the same category as
these other other groups who do get money or other types of
things. And we're not talking affirmative action, because
although affirmative action never was specifically meant for
Descendants of slavery, it kind of got hijacked now, no, now
you're gay, you can get affirmative action benefits, all
kinds of stuff. It's really affirmative action, I think,
embodies
John C. Dvorak: this is a never ending Lucy and the football
show. Yes, yes, exactly.
Adam Curry: So something interesting happens with the
Muller report, the Muller report, we supposed to really do
in Donald Trump, so we don't have to worry about it for 2020.
And of course, that doesn't happen. So now there's panic,
because Whoa, whoa, whoa, what are we going to do? And we have
this annoying group of people who are calling for stuff and
then they're saying we're not going to vote Democrat, we're
going to stay home that night did not say that go vote for
Donald Trump or the Republicans, like we're not going to vote for
you anymore. We're sick and tired of it. Here's Antonia
Moore explaining this is this is kind of the crux of, of his
argument. So I
Unknown: just wanted to come to you real quick. It's a YouTube
obviously can speak on this Muller report that just came
out. You know, I want to speak to it from a lens of being black
in America, and particularly found in the ADOS movement,
American descendants of slavery. And no way do we support Trump.
And largely, we represent a population base that votes for
Democrats above 90%. Right. You saw that in Texas and Florida,
and Georgia done the governor's races. And that's just not
consistent positioning voting. Now, what I see is an attempt to
make ADOS something that's not it doesn't support Maga is not a
white nationalist supported organization. One of the things
that the Muller report brings about is the Democrats really
failed in terms of how much they were going to dedicate to this,
they dedicated the energy that you needed to go into 2020.
With, with policy into the Muller report, Russia, Russia,
Russia, Russia, one of the things that you see is that now
that it's failed, nobody wants to hold the Democrats
responsible for failing so bad. If Trump wins again, it's
because the Democrats failed. They failed to understand how
much it was there. They failed to tell their surrogates how
much they need to blame other people. I want to reiterate,
again, we don't support Trump. We're largely trying to push the
Democrats which we have done. You read the Vox article, what
it did, it quotes myself. And what it says is that basically,
we don't want another Obama we voted for Obama rates are unseen
and turned out every time seeing many black Americans,
particularly American descendants of slavery. And so
what ended up happening is that there was an expectation for
agenda. And then everybody said, Well, you never gave him an
agenda. Now, when black folks given an agenda through us at
the American descendants of slavery, everybody says, well,
you're forcing the Democrats to actually commit to an agenda.
Then they say, Don't don't, you know, don't support Trump don't
give the agenda to Trump. They don't want us to have an agenda.
Because our agenda attacks the very core of America. It makes
America acknowledge that you built a group to fail. You have
more black men incarcerated to all women on the planet in
America out of 20 million ADOS men, 4 billion women with the
celebrity cheating scandal, why women committed crimes that are
tax fraud, that are mail fraud, and they're talking about they
might not even get printed. We get jailed and litter book to
black men for small level best to eat. And we don't know if
these white women are gonna get jail or prison. This all hinged
the whole democratic approach to Donald Trump going into 2020
hinged on the fact that Mother would come back with
indictments, if not on Trump that at least on his son and
Kushner, and then also and then also, you would have a strong
statement that there was that there was a conspiracy, we need
to focus on a black agenda. And we need to focus on reparations.
I'm not talking about voted for Trump, I'm talking about the
Democrats ignoring us, and then focusing on things like
immigration and DACA. We are citizens here living under
America, and we built America.
Adam Curry: So they start this movement and kind of like Magga,
it catches fire. Now you and I would know it because guess
what, we're not on Black Twitter, we don't see this. It
doesn't trend for us, even though it should be. And they
have an actual agenda. And people start liking and it's in
the shownotes, just a couple of the things on the Black Agenda.
Affirmative Action streamlined as a government program only and
specifically for American descendants of slavery. They
want 15% of Small Business Administration loans to be
distributed to ADOS businesses. And I can go on and on. The idea
is they want to be recognized as an actual group, that is a
minority group that got screwed like many other groups, and
they'd like to have some benefit from it. They've been promised
all this by the Democrats never received it. So this group
starts to grow. And this is a problem because Oh, my goodness,
we can't have we can't have them getting all uppity. I'll just
say it and ruining our whole control over the black
community. So the mainstream media comes up with this
interesting little, little narrative, that ad O S, the
hashtag ados, is actually something done by the Russians.
And here's Joy read Black woman with Shareen Michel black woman
talking about the trending of this hashtag.
Unknown: They appear to be a human, but they don't leave a
big gap. As Adam just said, in the time that they've tweeted,
and they tweet you should you respond to them.
Generally, no, I mean, off the back, you should say back and
just sort of watch their engagement, how many times
they're tweeting, what they're tweeting about, and even the
topics in particular. And a lot of the ones that are pretending
to be black people or black women in particular, who are
focusing on black identity have these sort of aspects in the
ways that they're talking about language. If we saw the other
day, there was an account that was supposed to be for black
supporting Howard Schultz, that account was eventually pulled
down. But that was a prime example of someone trying to
mimic support from the black community for a particular
candidate. So these kinds of things that are happening at
this moment, we have to pay a little bit more close attention
to it because there is nuance. But there are also identifying
factors. For example, right now from the black identity
framework, there's a new sort of hashtag and or identity that's
in their bios called a D O S, or D. O S, which is standing for
descendants of slaves. So it's the indication that they are,
they are someone who was born in, you know, as as a descendant
in the United States, who was representing black America and
has the vernacular in the language that people will
believe as someone who's a part of our community who's either
debating about Camilla, or debating about Booker, because
that's who just announced and trying to say, we know who's the
most, you know, who's who's black in America and making sure
that they're, you know, sort of talking in this vernacular that
makes it look like that they are
American. Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, I did see a huge uptick in bot activity when it came to
when Kamala Harris announced, it's like, it just dropped like
a bomb. It just happened really quickly. And she was accused of
being not, not really black, not Not really.
You could see that happening. But actually, there was an
uptick of those bots, just before she was about to announce
so they were preparing for her announcement.
Adam Curry: So here are two black women. Yeah. Here are two
black with what
John C. Dvorak: there's a bunch of bots waiting for the pounce.
It's worse
Adam Curry: than that, to black women who are black people call
Boulais which is you got to look that one up. Bo Ueli Boulais.
And they are just saying that the people who are tweeting with
this hashtag were bots, they're not they're not people. And
they're, they're more black than Kamala Harris. Yes. They're
black Americans. Kamala Harris is not a descendant of slavery.
So when you have all this talk about immigrants, immigrants
coming in, and Trump has has said this many times they're
taking the jobs, the sanctuary cities they get all kinds of
benefits black Americans are getting screwed. This is from a
California Council meeting just think two weeks ago. It to give
you an idea of how pay Stop the black community really is about
the democratic policy towards illegal immigration.
Unknown: Going in where, again, I say thank you wherever things
are racist, oh, my god are going to illegal and concern the
nomination. That is wrong. You're not going to be allowed
to get away with your time is going to be you wants to feel
for your families, but you don't feel for our family. Again, the
black community has been made me been destroyed by racist,
illegal immigration. And we're not going to have my people do a
crime. When we get prescribed. You'll need to do a crime, they
get amnesty, they get benefits, and they're not paying taxes.
Okay, publication publication 17. RF, they're allowing you
people to blame people in Mexico. I can't even take people
in New Orleans when they will flow. Train My people. I ended
up moving down there. But but it's, it's over. Thank God for
Trump. Thank God. And you said you shouldn't be ashamed of how
dare you look at publication 17? PAGE 25 and 26? How the hell are
you allowed to claim people in Mexico? Yeah, and get away with
it not pay taxes. I am outraged. I'm a tax preparer. I managed to
text on four different states that it is number that you live
in as a social security number. Oh, you don't want to be shut
down?
Adam Curry: So imagine, imagine that you already are quite aware
of what's going on. You see, these are replacement blacks.
This is just like the color gi plan in Europe. These are
replacements for actual black Americans who are descendants of
slaves who built the country. And you call their kids dreamers
abusing Martin Luther King's words. Can you imagine how
pissed off you would be? It's, it's insane. So the idea is,
we've got a whip everybody in the shape. You gotta shut up if
you're talking about this stuff, because we need one big black
community. Because otherwise we'll have all these groups will
be coming looking for their little handouts. We can't have
that make them all make all people of color, make them all
black. And this is why people like Candace Owens have to be
beaten down. This is Candace when she was in that, in that
congressional hearing.
Unknown: Let me ask you something. Do you hate Americans
with black skin color?
Absolutely not. I actually love Americans with black skin color
so much that I'm willing to fall on the sword 1000 times for them
to wake up and realize that we are being lied to abused and
used by the Democrat party.
I'm baffled because in the chairman's opening statement, he
said that you openly associate with purveyors of hate.
Yes, purveyors of hate by his definition is anybody that
supports the president. I support the president because
he's done a tremendous job in helping the black community,
despite all of the rhetoric from the media and leftists do not
want him to be successful.
Tell me a little bit about how the President has helped the
black community if you would, please.
Well, he's lowered the black unemployment rate. It's the
lowest it's ever been in the history. He's getting us off of
our feet. We see I believe the last number I checked was 3.5
million people are off of food stamps, something that the Black
Caucus sat down and didn't applaud. Neither do any of the
Democrats applauded because they want a system where blacks are
dependent on the government. They are the people that put in
place the policies that broke down the black family. And the
biggest problem that's facing our community is father absence.
In every room that I've been in with the President. He talks
about real issues and he doesn't pander to us. He doesn't do
Alexandria Ocasio cortezes Southern drawl accent and
speaking to us like we're slaves, he asks us important
questions. And the most important question you could
have asked was black America. What do you have to lose?
Because we were already losing under Democrat leadership.
Adam Curry: So again, what do you have to lose According to
producer Mo, that vibrated throughout the black community,
they all went, Holy crap, that's not a bad thought the guy had
right there. And Candace Owens is one of the drivers now,
although not an ados. Spokesperson at all. She's the
driver behind Brexit. And I don't know if you saw in the
last 48 hours hashtag black, not Democrat. And it's very similar
type of situation where black Americans are saying screw it.
I'm no longer on the Democrat plantation. So here's the
conundrum the Democrats have they're stuck between a rock and
the hard place. They failed to have this discredit rotation of
Trump. And they need to show the American descendants of slavery
they really care. But they can't because they have this whole
immigration thing which goes exactly against what the blacks
want. So they can either they could fix this in 15 minutes, as
has been said, just changed the asylum law and that would be
such a huge thing. And I think the blacks would hop right back
on the on the plantation, it's like, okay, great,
John C. Dvorak: too. And the thing is, they're not going to
do that, because of course not. The blacks are one. They're a
voting bloc, but they're only so big Latino communities bigger.
Yep. Yeah. And if you keep letting illegals in and letting
them vote, especially in places like California, Southern
California, in particular, that's a bigger voting bloc. And
so what so we lose a few blacks. In fact, most of the half of the
blacks, if half, you lose half of the blacks, you do a
calculation on this, or as he would say, a calculus, you do a
calculation on these numbers, and you have to finally come to
the conclusion that, you know, most of the blacks are going to
stick with us anyway, because they just don't have any other
place to go. They don't like Trump, we just call him a
racist. And now we'll take care of that they won't go there
because he's a racist. Right? And so they do the numbers and
they say, Nope, exactly. Let's not do anything for the black
community. The A das non Adas, whatever, ever. No, you're
right. And if it reparations talk is just what it sounds
like. Yep. Talk Now,
Adam Curry: how disgusting is it that the two founders of the A
das motor movement, Yvette Cornell and Antonio Moore, were
not invited to the reparations, HR 40 hearing, they started the
whole movement they they pushed for that hearing. And they were
disinvited, it was completely hijacked. So there's some where
the Tea Party was hijacked. Exactly. So they are pissed off.
Now. The Democrats, I think you're right, they did the
calculus. They said, Screw it. So they don't care. But black
America is waking up. And I'll tell you if Trump wanted to
secure his presidency, he all he has to do is this. Illegal
Immigration is hurting all Americans. Democrats don't want
to change the law. You know, they could do it in 15 minutes.
But you know what, I'm all for a DOS.
John C. Dvorak: All he has to do all he has to do forever to
figure out what a DOS is.
Adam Curry: Someone could write it down for him. American
descendants of slavery, a DOS, DOS SpaceForce a DOS? He would
he would he would clench it in a heartbeat.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, well, that's not happening. Well,
maybe, maybe not.
Adam Curry: So anyway, this is just some ground groundwork for
us to understand the movement that's taking place. And, and I
was most surprised by the Boulais negros as, as, as Moe
would call them, who literally are at the top of the pyramid on
MSNBC, and you know, and, and keeping the rest of the black
Americans down with calling them bots.
John C. Dvorak: It's actually that woman you played I had that
clip, but I had an extended version of we played it about a
Adam Curry: year habit. I have the Extended Clip. It's one
John C. Dvorak: where she goes off and says something like, Joy
read doesn't speak for me. She goes off on I think
Adam Curry: this is it here. We
Unknown: have a community and collapse. And why I despise the
people that go on MSNBC, like Joy Reid, and the people that
she has on her show is because day in and day out, they lie to
black people. They say no, Donald Trump is wrong. You're
doing better than that. Look at me, I'm on TV. Look at me. I'm
this woman I'm interviewing, she has a company. And they say
we're doing better than that. And the truth is, they're lying.
And they lie to us every day. And that's why I'm so sick. I'm
so I try not to personalize that I'm sick of joy Reid, I'm sick
of the people that she invites on her show. I'm sick of her
speaking on behalf of black people. I'm sick of Charles blow
speaking on behalf of black people. I don't represent black
people, and neither do these people. The data represents
judo. So what I want you to do is just get involved in the
data. Everything out everything I've said on here can be proven
everything I've said on here, there's a data that supports it.
Don't just listen to people who are lying to you. And don't just
believe because you went to brunch on Sunday, that you're a
part of middle class.
Adam Curry: Yeah, that was your clip. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah.
But the so the the What's the problem now is the replacement
by Caribbean blacks. And, and, you know, if you really have to
dive in, I'm not going to do that. But you really have to
dive into history to understand who was really doing the slave
trading where the slaves, slaves didn't just come from Africa, it
was the West Africans who are selling the slaves there.
There's different countries inside of Africa, and a lot of
the Caribbean slaves, they were shipped off to London, got an
education. And so all of these so called Caribbean blacks, they
are now at odds with the direct descendants of slavery. And
Kamala Harris is a perfect example. And then there's just
the loaded term of people of color. You know, imagine that
Elizabeth Warren, the first woman of color at Harvard, I
mean, imagine how you got to feel if all this is coming down?
No, it was nothing I didn't know or suspect, but it was an eye
opener. And then when you start to look at these high hash tags,
this new one, which is hashtag black, not Democrat. There's
something big going on and it is not being covered and it's not
being covered on purpose.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, it's not being covered on purpose because
the mainstream media so is is the mouthpiece for the
Democratic Party. Let's face it. I mean, we can people deny you
can go and give. I've given plenty of talks to journalists
only, and I've done head counts, and there's like one Damak I
mean, sorry, there's like one Republican roomful of Democrats.
Yeah. And my favorite story is still one time was up in some
little group up in Minnesota. And there's a whole it's one of
these companies that I was like, you know, 20 local regional
papers, and I asked a question to this group. And I get no
Republicans. It's like, everybody loves our hands, or
yeah, we're Democrats. And one Republican comes up to me later
says, you can see why I didn't lift my hand. And they're at the
point where they won't even admit it to Republicans anymore,
is that bad and it media is just rife. And that goes to the New
Yorker magazine, New York Magazine, all the all the book
publishers in Manhattan, this is just a complete takeover. It's
it's, it's astonishing.
Adam Curry: But it's also weakness on the part of people
in general. And we were in a cab on the we go into the airport
from Belfast, and the driver, you know, he's chatty, that gets
what do you think of Trump and the keeper and I like, well,
wasn't Hillary Clinton, and they see a lot of good things. This
presentation is very problematic. From time to time.
He said, wow. Oh, you're the only only I can't do an Irish
accent. You're the only two the one of two Americans who have
said that they they have some support for Trump. I said, Yeah,
I think the other ones are just too embarrassed, isn't it? It's
such an embarrassment that's been rammed into people's heads
that he did. They just can't say anything positive because
John C. Dvorak: you know, of his embarrassment. I think it's
fear. Embarrassment is not the same as fear.
Adam Curry: That's a good point. Well, the blacks have a problem
too. According to Mo, he says, you know, people don't have a
big problem with Donald Trump, he he could be written this, in
fact, four more years of Trump. They feel be good, but they have
fear for the same reason. They have fear of saying it. And it's
Trump, by the way, it's not the it's not the Republicans. It's
only Trump, they see something there. And, you know, again, he
had one quote that seemed to really resonate. It's the same
thing. So there's so much fear that no one's honest. And then
the mainstream media just runs on and programs everybody fears
freedom. Remember?
John C. Dvorak: Yes. Well, it's not going anywhere, anyplace.
It's good for our show.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's great for our shows that we have at least
something else to pay attention to. Because I'm pretty, pretty
sick of the no collusion. I mean,
John C. Dvorak: any collusion any collusion to you didn't clip
Adam Curry: it. I didn't know if you didn't clip it because you
didn't want to play it or thought everyone may be already
seen it. But this Rob Reiner video that that his wife
produced and that he directed holy crap with all the
celebrators in it.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, all of all of them needing makeup. Well, it
wasn't just that. I mean, how pale is Robert De Niro looked
half dead. I mean, he is literally white as a sheet.
Adam Curry: So there's Robert De Niro. Reiner. What's his name?
Hey, now. You know the Star Trek guy. He does that all the time
to
John C. Dvorak: Sulu Come on. Yes, Sulu. Was there surely
Adam Curry: Rosie Perez they dug her up. Christine Lagarde. But
then you know, Laurence Fishburne now some, some
respected actors. And what they what they did is they went in
they lied, the hope that what they were trying to do, say,
here's what you didn't read in the Muller report, because
you're stupid and you didn't read it, you should read it, but
don't really read it. Because just listen to us will tell you
what's in it. And it's so it's just full of lies. So we play a
little bit and just deconstruct that as we go alive.
John C. Dvorak: I you know, I would have been willing to
record the whole thing I just, you're probably right. It was my
thinking, Well, you know, people have seen this I am that know if
it's really not important in the scheme of things. Because
generally speaking, these celebrities, it turns out by
studies have very little influence on anybody. And
especially when they gang up like this, and it just looks
like a bunch of Trump haters. I just didn't think much of it.
But but it is entertaining from that perspective.
Adam Curry: Let's just well, this some parts would just stop
and we get tied up with bailout in
Unknown: 2016. The Russian government attacked our
democracy. They interfered
in the presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion.
Adam Curry: There's nothing like having an actor who played the
President doing this too. That's always great when you get sheen
in there. So yeah, the Russians hacked our democracy right off
the bat. It's like it's a meaningless statement.
John C. Dvorak: They lie It's a lie. It's an outward lie. They
may have heard, they know the difference between doing some
some what I would call fooling around and actually having an
impact. And all the intelligence agencies said they didn't have
an impact. So how come now is roll out these guys and say, Oh,
they did this. They did that according to 17 intelligence
agencies, but when the same intelligence agencies said the
Russians had zero impact on the vote, they never mentioned that
and then they lie about it. I mean, this is it's important.
These people, these people shouldn't be there beyond shame.
It's beyond shameful I beside myself when I was just listening
to this, Rob Reiner
Adam Curry: tweeted yesterday, we're up to 78 house members
calling for an impeachment inquiry. At this rate. The most
lawless president in the US history may never be held
accountable for his crimes. I gave up on the GOP cult long
ago. I hate to say it, but I'm starting to feel that way about
the ineffectual dems. So he's demure. He's downtrodden, he
feels like he's losing. He's giving up he's at a breaking
point.
Unknown: In 2016, the Russian government attacked our
democracy
they interfered in the presidential election in
sweeping and systematic fashion. They hacked emails,
spread lies and social media and made hundreds of contacts with
the Trump campaign all as
a part of a massive covert operation to
help Donald Trump become president.
In May 2017, the Department of Justice appointed former FBI
Director Robert Mueller as a special counsel
to investigate Canadian.
Adam Curry: So disappointing to me. I like Queer Eye I love the
Queer Eye show. But now they got the the makeup queer, who now
has a handlebar mustache for some reason that got him in this
video. Now, I just gotta hate him for this. And I can't watch
the show. It's disappointing tensions
Unknown: between Russia and the Trump campaign. Muller delivered
his report on March 22. And it contains the most damning
evidence ever compiled against a sitting US President.
Adam Curry: I mean, are you kidding me? How about Nixon?
John C. Dvorak: How, by the way, it also contained the fact that
the no agenda show is the best podcast in the universe. If you
read it. Yeah, Red Dead there.
Adam Curry: That's right. How come you didn't say that? Huh?
Okay.
Unknown: Virtually no one has read it and report virtually
Adam Curry: no one has read it because you're too stupid and
you don't care and we're here to save you was even released.
Trump's Attorney General William Barr
Unknown: lied about its contents.
Adam Curry: This is the whole message. Like you didn't hear it
right. You didn't understand it. Right. It wasn't reported right.
You got it wrong.
Unknown: He told the American people that the President had
done nothing wrong.
And Trump was more than happy to echo that propaganda, total
exoneration complete vindication.
That is an outright lie. Muller found plenty of evidence of
collusion,
the Trump campaign knew about Russia's illegal attack on our
election. They welcomed it and encouraged their help.
That's collusion. And recently Donald Trump seated in the Oval
Office acknowledged that collusion in fact,
he admitted that in a future election, he would break the law
and do it all over
Adam Curry: it. Now. This is this is where it really irked
me. This is now they're going to go into this Stephanopoulos
interview, which was about opposition research, oppo
research. It wasn't about this secret, you know, help from
governments. He was about if I think the exact question was, if
someone came along, said, Yeah, I got some oppo research in
Trump's head. Yeah, I'd take it I'd take a look at it. Of
course, you know, I don't have to go run into the FBI. When
someone gives you some oppo research. It happens all the
time. In fact, that's how we got here is because of Clinton
funded oppo research. But what are these jokes? Do? They cut
all the APO part out and just make it sound like he will be
happy to collude with the Russians, again, knew
Unknown: about Russia's illegal attack on our election. They
welcomed it and encouraged them to
help. That's collusion. And recently Donald Trump seated in
the Oval Office acknowledged that collusion
in fact, he admitted that in a future election, he would break
the law and do it all over it.
Adam Curry: And he Yeah, John. He admitted he would break the
law and do it all over again. And that's not quite what he
said.
Unknown: I think you might want to listen, I don't there's
nothing wrong with listening. I think I'd want to hear it. You
want that kind of interference in our elections. It's not an
interference. They have information. I think I'd take
it. But we knew that. Here are some other specific examples
from the Mueller report.
One in the spring of 2016, a Russian operative told a Trump
adviser that the Russian government had dirt on Hillary
Clinton. This
Adam Curry: is the George Stephen Papadopoulos case.
They're just rehashing stuff with lies in
Unknown: the form of 1000s of emails. The advisor then work to
arrange a meeting between the campaign and the Russian
government,
that's collusion to in June of 2016, Donald Trump Jr. received
an email offering dirt on Hillary Clinton as quote
part of the Russian government support on quote of his Father
God Jr. replied within minutes
if this what you say I love it, especially later in the summer,
four days
later on June Okay, I
John C. Dvorak: think we've run out of steam here.
Adam Curry: Yeah, the only thing I was waiting for but we don't
have to play it is just I
John C. Dvorak: want to say something about this thing
overall. It's good. This is counterproductive for these
people. I don't think I think a member Yeah, if you're all in
fit, you know, 30% of the public is going to go Democrat,
whatever it is, they're they're far as they're concerned.
Trump's the worst guy ever any Republican would be it doesn't
make any difference who it is Bush was the same way. The way
they present this, it's so arrogant, that I think they're
literally turning people the other way, is like what is your
problem? It is beyond the pale. It's overproduced these people
look insane none of them by the way are attractive. We all know
and you'd think that people in the show business would have a
clue about this Yeah, you gotta you gotta look kind of good for
good show. Attractive JIT De Niro looks like the Death one
over you does and all these guys baby the exception of fish burn
look terrible. Yeah, they look sickly and they look kind of
they look decrepid you know
Adam Curry: what dinero what he looks like he reminded me of
like a hairball the cat pukes up top of God it just that
John C. Dvorak: made you look horrible point is is that
they're violating all their own rules that they know better.
They you bring attractive people out you make you know you sell
you sell you sell you're selling the sales way you don't do this.
This is Trump derangement syndrome. You look insane.
Adam Curry: And with that, I would like to thank you for your
courage and say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea
in any collusion John see.
John C. Dvorak: Well, in the morning to you Mr. Adam curry
also in the morning all ships as he boots on the ground feet in
the air subs in the water. And all the Dames and all the nights
out there. And in
Adam Curry: the morning to the trolls on the polls in the troll
room. That's right, it's no agenda stream.com That's where
we get lots of feedback, you can check in there 24 hours a day,
seven days a week we got this coupled to the no agenda stream
so you can chat you can troll you can just do whatever you
want. It's a very free for all place. It's a lot of fun. And
we'd like to stream live when we record the show and get a lot of
good feedback and it's often good one liners from the troll
room no agenda stream.com It is appreciated. And then also in in
the morning to cesium 137 created the artwork for that
episode 1148 which was titled Twitter rattling I should have a
clip on that later on, which was what Trump was doing towards
Iran and a number of different cool pieces of artwork but we
really had to go with the no agenda wine in a tube since we
talked about it a lot. And he he nailed it. It's exactly
John C. Dvorak: debated this picking this art did
Adam Curry: was one of those there were other ones that we
could use at another point or repurpose for something else and
this was kind of one a one shot show and you could really use
this one time one time only
John C. Dvorak: to have a few people think for sure. This is
1149
Adam Curry: Yes no agenda art generator.com is what I want to
say. And thank you CZ
John C. Dvorak: starting with John Bassano in Huntsville
Alabama 333 dot four to ITM gents. You'd be our first
executive producer. Great shows lately. Always really, Adam get
some Sharpton clips queued up please. Birthday shout out to my
smokin hot wife Tracy on June 23. Love you so much. Let this
donation count towards her Dame hood almost there keep up the
great work guys. John and Tracy Bassano. He doesn't really
request anything but he plays Sharpton.
Adam Curry: We'll give him some karma too.
Unknown: Thanks. Good evening. Is this Crown Hall day two we
are watching. That was Attorney General Eric Holder add about
some Republicans at home already beating the drums of war today
the Pentagon refuted that claim. And he said the American people
do not want him to quote Grinling either they do not want
him dribbling his thumb. Yes DIC tea.
Adam Curry: Oh, sorry. Karma misfired let me give it to you
you've got karma. Thank you very much and Tracy is on the list.
John C. Dvorak: Edie Lu booty A? No jingles no karma during the
$33 He is somewhere I don't have his town where he's living to
keep up the great work he does you hear from you and thank you.
And now we need a sound effect.
Adam Curry: Oh, ooh, hold on a second. Yes. I'm sorry I'm
lacking and I think we'll try this one no more. Oh yes, it's
the Grand Duke.
John C. Dvorak: That's well he's calling himself arch. Arch.
Arch. Arch. Arch arch Duke sorry, arch Duke. News bomb that
314 15 Drunk donation a little bit I have. Tina and Adam May
the smiles and love continue with abundance. Yes, thank you.
JC de JCD May the mudflats be there the chair squeak squeaky,
squeaky squeaky. And you and yours be blessed. I truly
enjoyed talking to Eric and Austin. I reached out to
Fletcher and the P goat. I pick it I pick it from my I can pick
it for my call outs and for the life of me I do not know why
others haven't. Not sure others will Chris Wilson Fletcher and
many can get involved as do my grand duking match coming soon.
He's very hammered naming the of the studio my opinion. It should
be limited to the executive and associated executive producers
for the following week, the Sunday at Thursday show
announced from the studio blog. During those episodes, ideas are
given in something something's picked live or later. At some
point one of you will get the aha moment and it ends as
Vonnegut says so it goes ahead I appreciate ready Per Se ya know
what he's doing?
Adam Curry: Well I did have a thought about this we were
talking about studio naming rights. And you know, we don't
want this we don't want to have like some kind of ads on
commercial because it before you know it's like you didn't read
the name right you didn't say the studio name right and we
have two meetings is that we don't want to go that's like no
John C. Dvorak: no no no that we need to hate but
Adam Curry: I was thinking how about it's on a monthly basis so
like this morning just as a test I said this is the SIR forgotten
his name already so much for so much for the naming rights. This
is the SIR Blake soundproof studio, because he'd sent these
things over. So it's to me it would be anyone who donates and
you know, that has a note 50 $50 or but we don't read all the
notes but you could nominate, you can nominate someone
something or as some kind of name for the studio. And, and
the committee that would be you and I John, we have a meeting
which will take about three minutes. And we'll say okay,
well here's all the nominations and maybe it's so it's an Eagle
Scout or someone did something, whatever it is, and then we just
keep the studio name for one month for that person just as an
extra thing. Just something nice to do. Okay,
John C. Dvorak: well that's one thought.
Adam Curry: We'll have another meeting later is what I'm
hearing you say?
John C. Dvorak: A bent a halt it leash the lady down dam of the
dry lands deck or DRY DRY DRY lawn deck dryland deck.
Adam Curry: I think it's bench to help naturally. I think it's
been to help at least lady Dane dame of the dryland deck.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, dry land deck and mountains not that far
away. She's an Executive Associate Executive producer
from Switzerland. $233. I want to thank you and all the
producers for the jobs karma I asked for last month for my
lovely husband, a mainframe DBA dude named Ben.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, hold on. Hold on. So this she says her
husband is a mainframe database administrator. There's not a lot
of jobs because they're filled up by old dudes who can still do
that work? And she said, we're really looking. I hope he can
find some Can you give him some job karma? And I think we had
two or three producers who contacted us and we put them in
contact with them. Because they said, Oh, yes, we've got a gig.
We got a gig for him. So it's something worked out and
couldn't be happier.
John C. Dvorak: He says he's worked his magic. He's got the
job and he starts work on Tuesday. 815 very odd time. I
know. But we didn't complain. And I would like to ask for some
special karma to send to him for a good start to this new phase
of his life. I nearly went I really want this to be a success
that Once you're in a job like that, Todd, you should be good
to be set if you're good to go, because these big systems are
very difficult. Yeah, thank you for all you do and for keeping
me entertained while I commute and move and mow the lawn, love
and light and benty lady named Amy dryland deck. I love the
introduction of Lady and makes so much sense. Thank you for
that. Thank you to the Dame who introduced you to it? It's
great. Yes.
Adam Curry: All right, Lady Dane and here's some common
Unknown: you've got karma.
John C. Dvorak: Jim Bennett from Toronto, Ontario comes in a tune
of $12.12. Jets home from the home of the world champion
basketball raptors. Oh, by the way today. Jim, you and your
Raptors can go over to the get to the Toronto gay parade.
Adam Curry: Wow, what does
John C. Dvorak: that tell him? I'd given us a heads up as to
today's day. Canadian Canadian Canada. Davia can only be
considered the wellspring of environmental insanity. Well,
this is true. On Sunday, the government declared a climate
emergency a situation apparently unworn, or warranting nuanced
steps still to be determined by the likes of environmental
minister Catherine McKenna. She's a maniac by the way. Yeah,
we played a clip from her. We played plenty we played more
than one. Maybe she would just yell through the legislation in
Parliament. For the clip you played a few shows ago when she
told intrepid bar goers that the best way to get things passed
was to yell louder than everyone else. Exactly. But wait, sunrise
on Tuesday saw the same band of Trudeau miscreants announcing
the approval of the trans mountain pipeline expansion you
this is a big, big scandal. Oh, I haven't followed this. Oh,
yeah. Yeah, good. Trudeau knuckled under to the pipeline,
folks,
Adam Curry: of course. Because climate crisis,
John C. Dvorak: I thought we're going green. Anyway already
sharpening the pitchforks and garlic necklaces in response to
the federal Carbon Tax fight. We hear today from a CBC poll that
the overwhelming majority of candidate aliens are only
prepared to pay $100 annually to counter act any outlandish
global warming cooling. Hold on a second. 100 just came up on my
screen we don't want to deal with Oh, brother. What
Adam Curry: happened? Yeah, okay. Hang on, hang on. Sounds
like a Windows issue.
John C. Dvorak: Came up and wants to reboot. My machine
does. Standby buddy. We have emergency emergency standby
where she was going
Adam Curry: to stop tape.
John C. Dvorak: No, don't know. I just did need to click a
couple of things here to push this off to Saturday.
Unknown: Everybody John's got it under control. He's just going
to click a couple of things and everything will return to
normal. If you feel dizzy at anytime just look at the ground
and it will all go away. And we're
John C. Dvorak: back. And you're already sharpening the
pitchforks as he goes on. They only want to pay 100 bucks in
Canada. Oh, what WTF he says those of us in the economically
cozy claims of Ontario are now seeing why the rest of the
country Don yellow vests and descended on the nation's
capital Ottawa weeks ago. This ridiculous game is up here.
People smell a rat and ate Nick. But he managed the game is up
now. Yes, yes. Yes. Okay, Jim, thanks. Thank you very much.
Good. Good work with your raptors. People have funded the
parade. Steven Lind in Cape Town Western Province, Zaire your
axes in South Africa 20304. I haven't done alo while so de
douche me right away.
Unknown: You've been de deuced I'm not
John C. Dvorak: one of your sissy Austin San Fran dog
idolizes. But I do have a dog and he is epic. He travels
everywhere with me including two long commutes each day to and
from work in my car. About a year ago. Well listen to your
show on the way to work during the donation segment, which I
always listened to at 15 XP.
Adam Curry: I think it's at 1.55
John C. Dvorak: Bailey started howling profusely from the
backseat it wasn't after your dogs or people to jingle which
ends obviously with the howl but rather after the goat karma
jingle he began to do this every time the jingle played and
eventually it became every time the karma jingle played
especially the jobs karma Hillary it's not Hillary that's
actually Nancy Pelosi. Saying that it is difficult to capture
because an A from my phone is Plan A from my phone and I can't
activate the camera and continue playback. But my beautiful new
wife helped him him helped film him a few of these events and
have attached them I have to look at these so I
Adam Curry: can play one of the sound bits because they're all
pretty much the same and in video they're much funnier but
here we go here's Bailey jobs, jobs and jobs that's all does
that consistently whenever the karma jingle comes on? Wow,
isn't that great? Yeah, I'd like a better
John C. Dvorak: like a better Oh, that's a nice dog he's house
Adam Curry: I'd like a little better recording so we can do it
could be a Bailey karma because it's hilarious he doesn't earn Q
every single time. Good dog
John C. Dvorak: working towards knighthood I like to request
that from you a Bailey karma which is a jobs goat karma
followed by Bailey's howl from one of the Atashi videos give me
another words where you get it we'll get a better copy of this
and then we'll do it we will create what create that given
the fact that I'm a dog on our new Are you are you are Adam a
John described dog Hey. I hope you see the glory and the
attached fu clips and amazing coincidence or occurrence.
Otherwise love the show. As always. Congrats on your
wedding. Hearing your travel insights tells me you clearly
don't travel nearly enough. Let's do a Cape Town meetup.
Adam Curry: Good idea. I'd love I'd love to do a Cape Town meet
up but who wouldn't? Is that where white people get killed?
Or is that not Cape Town?
John C. Dvorak: That using a joke joke? Oh, okay.
Adam Curry: Well, then we're good to go.
John C. Dvorak: Now Johannesburg is fine if you're American. Cape
Town is a really nice, special class of old fashioned place.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: And they speak Dutch so they speak Dutch everywhere
Africans? Well, I can get away with it.
John C. Dvorak: Most of them speak good English. If you and
John both calm I pledged to put you up and take your wine
tasting once a day. Once Once probably in Franschhoek. And I
won't
Adam Curry: vintage. vintage look. What vintage look.
John C. Dvorak: Your fresh hook is the main Oh area. There's
other places are within it usually. It means the French
area his world of French moved to make wine. Most of the wine
until recently has been crap, but now it's getting pretty
good. He will swap your mic out for a dildo and hide it in your
bag before you leave. In other words, look out all the best
from Rainy Cape Town Steve Lind
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.
You've got karma kind of did a Bailey
John C. Dvorak: Ron way you probably wanted to do but you
added something to that when Ron Woodbury and parts of no $200
You realize Associate Executive Producer enjoying your show in
the comfort of my home he writes, which is cool with
electricity supplied from a clean coal plant power plant
meeting steak from a methane producing from methane producing
cattle, which of course was cooked on a natural gas grill.
This is how we start the summer in the flyover states all the
best run I use briquettes
Unknown: to give you a karma karma karma
John C. Dvorak: so there was a we have over this certain parts
of the year we have these clear the a clean the air day or
whatever they're called, oh, we're not allowed to burn wood?
Well, it turns out so I went and looked at the regs I'm thinking,
you know, clear the air, clean the air, wherever the hell they
call it something you're not supposed to be you can't use
your fireplace. You can't do this. You can't do that. But you
can use your outdoor barbecue for cooking you cooking is
exempt from the rules. So you can go back there and torch off
your oak and cook yourself a nice steak. I torch off my own
this morning worry about the air pollution folks coming over and
giving you a citation.
Unknown: All righty. Is that it?
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, that's it. I want to thank all these folks
for being executive producers and Associate Executive
producers for show 1149.
Adam Curry: And these are credits that are incredibly
valuable. They're not easy to come by. Because as you can
tell, you have to be an executive or social executive
producer. But they are recognized by people in show
business people who look at profiles on LinkedIn and you can
always put it into your Twitter handle your social media, it
does give you standing. And we really appreciate it because
just like Hollywood would like to give you those credits up
front and as early as possible. And thank you again for your
courage and your support of the no agenda show. And thank you to
everybody else. We'll be thinking more people $50 And
above and we'll be here for another show on Thursday. You
can remember us and support us at VO
Unknown: rack.org/and.
Adam Curry: I think we've learned quite a lot from this
donation segment including all about Bailey
Unknown: art for me Is this we go out for hit people in the
mouth? Righto
John C. Dvorak: All right. So what are we get now?
Adam Curry: I don't know what you got? Well, I
John C. Dvorak: got a couple of things. Let's go into and talk
about, you know, we got this situation where World War Three
on was broke out. Yeah and then Trump backed off and said he
doesn't he's gonna kill 150 people it's not worth the
trouble it's not worth the effort is not worth it because
human life is more valuable than actually ever
Adam Curry: before before we launch into it on the last show,
at the very beginning, we got this. It was just breaking news
that Trump had tweeted that Iran had made a mistake. And in fact,
this is where the title of the show came from Twitter rattling
I just want to replay the clip as we received it.
John C. Dvorak: Yesterday. This is a good Yeah, we did the we
kind of analyzed this after the show. And we wanted to do a 10.
Today Show and I and I wrote down a note to do this. And then
of course, I don't know where that note went.
Adam Curry: It's okay, because I wrote the note down as well.
Maybe I just found yours. So here's the initial reporting
right after the tweet
Unknown: president's offering his first reaction now to the
shoot down of an American drone by the Iranians last night, the
President issuing a one sentence tweet saying Iran made a very
big mistake that coming just in the past couple of minutes at
the same time, we're getting information that there is
scheduled to be a meeting here at the White House, to gauge
response to the Iranian shoot down the President's tweet, Iran
made a very big mistake, of course begging the question of
what the White House and what the administration is prepared
to do about it, if anything, any kind of response at all. I spoke
to Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the White House press secretary just
a few minutes ago. She said the President was briefed last night
and has been briefed again this morning on what the US military
knows about that shoot down so no indication at this point of
what any potential US response would be. But the President I
don't think you can call this saber rattling maybe just a
Twitter rattle but issuing a one sentence statement on Twitter
here in reaction to that shutdown, guys, I mean, there's
a reaction in the market crude oil is jumping on this news. WTI
now up 5%.
Adam Curry: So we took that the same way it was reported, which
is, oh, they made a very big mistake. I'm gonna kick your
ass. I'm Trump. I'm gonna kill everybody. And turns out, it was
really he was taken out of context. We had no idea what the
context was of this mistake. I
Unknown: think probably Iran made a mistake. I would imagine
it was a general or somebody that made a mistake in shooting
that drone down. And fortunately that drone was unarmed. It was
not there was no man in it. There was no it was just it was
over international waters clearly over international
waters but we didn't have a man or woman in the drone we had
nobody in the drone Are you still up in would have made a
big difference?
Adam Curry: So we all kind of know what he said there. But I
just wanted to point out that you know, this is a real problem
with this headline breaking news bullcrap. Because apparently all
he wanted to say goes well they made a big mistake and they're
lucky cuz we didn't go and kill anybody.
John C. Dvorak: And well, this brings me back to somebody
calling me out on Twitter for doing this again and I we talked
about this on the show, we tried to not do it. And this be sent
indications on these online things are is very flaky is not
a good form of communication and sarcasm in particular. Doesn't
work. Because you can't get that tone in there. So you should
never be sarcastic and I was sarcastic and one of my tweets
and somebody called me out. And I had to admit that yes, it was
a mistake on my part because I try not to do this I'm not I'm
trying I would try not to do on the show. It is a form of humor
that you know if you think you're clever, you do sarcasm
all the time. And that's what Ben Shapiro's big problem is
because if you take these comments out of context is very
easy to make you look like a doofus and and this was a
classic example of being Miss construed, yes. Now my favorite
line I did get a funny loud Alpha tour when somebody said
when Trump says I'm not gonna bomb because I want to kill 150
and somebody's comment was worst Hitler ever.
Adam Curry: He did a follow up with with Chip chip Chuck. Chuck
chip, Chuck Todd Todd cast. He did a follow up interview. I
have a clip that in June
Unknown: Greenlight something or had you said if we do it I'll do
this. What
was it what was the order you nothing is green lighted until
the very end because things change, right? She never gave a
final No, no, no, but we had something ready To go subject to
my approval, and they came in, and they came in about a half an
hour before they said, so we're about ready to go. I said, I
want a better definition we're playing, we're about ready to
go. No, but they would have been pretty soon. And things would
have happened to a point where you wouldn't turn back who
couldn't turn back. So they came and they said, Sir, we're ready
to go. We'd like a decision. I said, I want to know something
before you go, how many people will be killed? In this case,
Iranians. I said, How many people are going to be killed?
Sir, I'd like to get back to you on that. Great people, these
generals, they said, came back said, Sir, approximately 150.
And I thought about it for a second. I said, You know what,
they shut down an unmanned drone plane, whatever you want to call
it. And here we are sitting with 150 dead people. That would have
taken place probably within a half an hour after I said, go
ahead. And I didn't like it. I didn't think it was. I didn't
think it was proportionate.
Adam Curry: If that is the truth, it's very interesting.
But by the way I have and I'll put them in the show notes. I
have the flight tracks of the drone, and I have the Iran FLIR
that's the flight information region. And you can see that the
drone definitely passed over their airspace. Yep,
John C. Dvorak: I probably did. And I think maybe one of the
reasons they didn't do this attack, and even though Trump
has his nice story, I have to ask the media, just if they were
anyone was listening. Has the Iranian general had the drone in
front of him? And he was showing it to the media, if it was over
international waters? Where did all these pieces of drone come
from? And it's anyone's asked the President and was, well, if
it was over clearly, as he said, clearly over international
waters, where do all these pieces of drone come from?
Because this thing crashes into the drink. It's not going to
float to shore. It's not made out of balsa wood is a big heavy
craft to size. Pretty much almost the size of a 737 at
least in wingspan is the big drone to predator. And they it's
it hits the water, boom, it goes down to the bottom. It's metal.
So where do all these pieces come from? Unless it was shot
down over land and it landed did pieces landed all over the
place? Did anybody bother to ask that simple question?
Adam Curry: No, why would we do that? It makes no sense. I don't
think the person is truthful though. And I can't I've got
Unknown: the who should come to light.
John C. Dvorak: I think he's balsa being misled. I mean, the
fact that they keep arguing that was over international waters
when it clearly wasn't let my version of your tracking data
and the fact that he had the drone pieces in front of him.
Adam Curry: Well, let me play this clip again.
Unknown: I've got information man, new shit has come to light.
I
Adam Curry: can't back it up with any proof yet. But
apparently, as the fighter jets or bomber aircraft were ready to
take off for their targets involving Iran, US intelligence
intercepted a quote communication. I don't know
exactly what that means. That had a full version of the
finalized target lists they were ordered to destroy. The version
Iran received was not the finalized list, but it was one
of the lists mulled over prior to the final decision. Some of
the targets on the list were sent to Iran. Were actually on
the final target selection list. Upon receipt of the target list.
US satellite assets watched Iran detect hasty moving of anti
aircraft and surface to air missile assets towards the
targets to defend them. It became clear to us intelligence
that American pilots could be flying to their deaths if the
attack was allowed to proceed. Trump was advised of this
development and he allegedly ordered the mission aboard it
sounds a lot more feasible to me than 150 people he didn't want
to kill
John C. Dvorak: will that tells you something if that kind of
information is leaking all over the place to get to do something
about this problem? They have a mole
Adam Curry: Yeah. And that's if if true, that's really really
problematic.
John C. Dvorak: That's a good story if it's true or not. What
I like
Adam Curry: the most is Sean Hannity, who is a war monger
extraordinaire and what did Iran do to Sean Hannity
Unknown: if they do they rape him
John C. Dvorak: either No, listen to this part of that dead
John McCain click you know bom bom, bom bom
Adam Curry: the gays, gay stache. Listen to his math,
Unknown: we'll have A squared B squared equals C squared,
radical Islamic Maryrose President married to weapons of
mass destruction nukes equals a potential holocaust. That's it.
We can't let that happen. That's the That's it. It's mathematical
mathematical job
is just math.
John C. Dvorak: It's mathematical.
Adam Curry: What a dick. It's math people. You gotta shoot
some rockets at Iran it's math.
John C. Dvorak: But here's the the overriding the kind of the
Trump versus Iran did background you're on PBS minute clips. It
gives us what we need to know
Unknown: in Tehran today. The Revolutionary Guard Corps showed
off their catch the charred remains of the US drone they
shot down. But as the invited camera crews to document the
destruction, general Amir Ali hajizadeh said yesterday could
have been deadly
that I wanted as a kid at the same moment
John C. Dvorak: when this aircraft was being tracked.
Another spy aircraft called P eight was flying close to this
drone. That aircraft is manned and has around 35 crew members,
we could have targeted that
Unknown: plane up to this 6000 miles away in an interview with
NBC News. President Trump described discussing options
with military commanders, and also said yesterday could have
been deadlier.
They came and they said Sir, we're ready to go. We'd like a
decision. I said, I want to know something before you go, how
many people will be killed? And this case Iranians came back
said sir, approximately 150.
Adam Curry: You know, hold on, just in light of what we just
heard him say or what we what we may be true about leaked
information. It's interesting that he says in this case,
Iranians would you expect anyone else to get killed?
John C. Dvorak: Russia Russians,
Adam Curry: possibly all surface could be anybody. I'm just
saying that. That's interesting news.
Unknown: President Trump's described discussing options
with military commanders, and also said yesterday could have
been deadlier.
They came in they said Sir, we're ready to go. We'd like a
decision. I said, I want to know something before you go. How
many people will be killed? In this case, Iranians came back
said sir, approximately 150. And I thought about it for a second.
I said you know what, they shut down an unmanned drone plane,
whatever you want to call it. And here we are sitting with 150
dead people. That would have taken place probably within a
half an hour after I said go ahead. And I didn't like it. I
didn't think it was. I didn't think it was proportionate. I'll
throw
Ron says use this interceptor missile to shoot down the drone.
The US military says it's located here along the ROMs
coast. Former senior military officials tell PBS newshour the
President was likely given options to attack that missile
site. Its command and control and its radar systems. And those
former senior military and diplomatic officials say the
military strike options presented to the President would
have included casualty estimates from the very beginning. It's
not clear why the President received that information so
close to giving you an order to attack. But those former
officials say it raises questions about the decision
making process. Now of course,
Adam Curry: course what you didn't kill people. What
John C. Dvorak: is given you a little needle there. There was
another analysis done. This is on PBS again. I was also on the
news, our shields on Trump and Iran.
Unknown: So Mark, let's talk about what we are leading with
tonight. And that is again, the tension the tense situation
standoff, whatever you want to call it, between the United
States and Iran, with the latest news being President Trump had
authorized military strike, but then are almost authorized. And
then the last minute, pulled it back. What do we make of this?
Well,
the President is keeping his word that he made during the
campaign to be unpredictable. And I think unpredictable. This
is what this qualifies. It's a little it isn't you don't get
the sense that this has been well,
Adam Curry: he could have said the president kept his word. I
don't want to get into new wars. But no, I'm gonna be
unpredictable. Was it was that a was that a campaign promise
John C. Dvorak: work of sarcasm?
Adam Curry: You think that was certainly think that was sarcasm
is
John C. Dvorak: fantastic. I think it's sarcasm, of course it
is. And is now he goes into his analysis, which is just IO jaw
dropper
Unknown: pulled it back? What do we make of this?
Well, the President is keeping his word that he made during the
campaign to be unpredictable, and I think unpredictable is
what this qualifies. It's a little it isn't you don't get
the sense that this has been well thought out. And the idea
that and and how the country gets on board. And as we, for
example, and this is we are unsettling. I'm relieved that
the President rather upset the founder so late in the game,
that's where we are.
Adam Curry: Are you just trying to get this guy fired? How much
time do you spend on this? You could clean up the edits a
little bit. It's almost there. It's eight and solid eight. You
really don't want
John C. Dvorak: to be listening. Alice. I
Unknown: really don't like that guy. Do you?
John C. Dvorak: Think he's great? I?
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, it's fishy. This whole 150 people
thing is fishy. I um, yeah,
John C. Dvorak: I'm now now that I hear about the potential of a
mole. And somebody you know it almost in fact, if you're going
to take it, you want to take it to one level more. The shoot
down was part of a huge scheme to trap the United States to
doing something where we're gonna get ourselves into killed
we're gonna look at the bad guys because they probably have all
the data on the drone actually being they shut the thing down
for legitimate reasons. And then we go to to attack them and then
we get shot down in the process. The whole thing looks very
sketchy. Well, I'm
Adam Curry: just gonna give you a horrible scenario. So we know
that there are just incredible war mongers in the United States
government in the White House. Gay stash. Okay, so then Pompeo.
So these guys, they have their people in, what if they said,
Look, this Trump guy, he's not going to do it. He doesn't want
what are we going to do? I got an idea. That idea will fly the
drone will get shot down. It's not hard to do just fly it over
there. And then we'll leak some of the info about the fighters
so that we can get some some of our guys killed. Boom, you got a
cocktail. It's possible and it's very disturbing.
John C. Dvorak: I like that one the most. Because that's exactly
what these creeps would do. Yeah. And they're in a position
to do it.
Adam Curry: So thank you President Trump if that's what
happened, lie all you want but tell us the truth at some point
about these eight holes when you when you smoke them out. Well,
both those guys
John C. Dvorak: gotta go. Yeah. And I mean, and also the gold
dipped Hannity's and all these people that are kind of sided
with them, they really well. Again, it says to do one more of
these stupid, expensive wars. That costs us trillions of
dollars that we can't afford. You know, Ben Shapiro is a
netlist. Yes. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Was he calling it was he calling for a tackle?
He's a huge warm WHAT DO WE was he actually on his on his
podcast saying this attack attack attack?
John C. Dvorak: I don't I don't listen to his podcast. I
Adam Curry: neither do I. But I'd like to know now. Well,
let's
John C. Dvorak: find out somebody. Oh, I'm sure do we
have people out there that love the Ben Shapiro show?
Adam Curry: And if you love the Ben Shapiro show, do you listen
to him at 1.5 speed? And how much coke do you have to do to
build?
John C. Dvorak: He talks at 1.5 speed. Exactly.
Adam Curry: But then the Washington Post reports that
President Trump approved an offensive cyber strike that
disabled Iranian Iranian computer systems used to control
rocket and missile launchers, even as he backed away from the
conventional military attack in response to his downing
Thursday, an unmanned us surveillance drone, according to
people familiar with the matter. Is this
John C. Dvorak: true? No, I don't know. It sounds that you
think you hear more about it from the community.
Adam Curry: The White House declined the decline, decline
declined to comment as did officials and US Cyber Command
Pentagon spokes whole Elissa Smith said as a matter of policy
and for operational security. We did not discuss cyberspace
operations, intelligence or planning when she didn't want to
say anything. Oh, who is this? Thomas Bossert.
John C. Dvorak: And wouldn't the Iranians be bitching about this?
If something like that happened? We'd be hearing about it from
international news. Listen
Adam Curry: to this. So we have former senior White House
cybersecurity official in the Trump administration. Thomas
Bossert. look him up, John. Well, I read this Bossard Bo s s
e r t Why did he leave? He says he was quoted in The Washington
Post. This operation imposes costs on the growing Iranian
cyber threat but also serves to defend the United States Navy
and shipping operations in the Strait of Hormuz. He's saying
that as if he knows something, he continues. Our US military
has long known that we could sink every IRGC Iranian royal
what is it? I don't know. IRGC vessel in the straits within 24
hours if necessary. And this is the modern version of what the
US Navy has to do to defend itself at sea and keep
international shipping lanes free from Iranian disruption.
This is a former guy so there's no one no one from no one. No
official spoke on the record about this. But yet, the
headline, Trump approved cyber strikes against Iran's missiles
so this more deep state shit.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. Bossard is some Atlantic Council guy with
the George W. Bush administration. Yeah. Attended
George Washington University. Hi. Yeah,
Unknown: yeah, guy.
Adam Curry: Could you get fired?
John C. Dvorak: He's a Homeland Security Adviser to US President
Trump was Yeah. And he's currently ABC News Homeland
Security Analyst say no more before. He's a fellow at the
Atlantic Council and then he's a Deputy Homeland Security Adviser
to George W. Bush. In that capacity he co authored the
National Strategy for Homeland Security prior to that he had
positions in the federal FEMA Office of Independent Counsel
and the House of Representatives also appointed as director of
infrastructure protection under Bush overseeing the security of
critical you of us infrastructure oak spoke he's
got spirit and all he looks like one two said he's wearing a
white shirt instead of a light blue Well, I'm
Adam Curry: going to talk to I'm gonna contact the channels and
see if see if our idea may be right or not about the about
this deep state. really sick and really sickening to think but it
fits perfectly. It just seems so odd, but it is pretty
John C. Dvorak: cool. This guy though this guy quit when Bolton
got in now. Issues bolt gun and he left now I'm sure he resigned
a day after Bolton got in now. I'm wondering whether this was a
guy who was a placeholder for the deep state EQs in there and
then Bolton comes in. Okay, you got in the hands of Baton
handoff. Possible.
Adam Curry: I just I just the whole 150 Dead people thing is
what really just doesn't fit the Trump by in it. It doesn't fit
the Trump mold? No. You know, it just doesn't fit it. Unless it
was 150 of our guys. He says in this case Iranians. Sure. So 150
Iranians maybe more us? I don't know. But it just doesn't feel
right. And then you take all this,
John C. Dvorak: it will start to reveal itself. I hope so. On our
show. Yes. Meanwhile, yes. Get some updates on some action
around the world. Okay. China's back is back at it in Hong Kong.
They're still irked because this situation hasn't resolved
itself. So get an update. There were
Unknown: fresh protests today. demanding the city leader
scrapped a proposal allowing extraditions to mainland China,
more than 1000 demonstrators wearing black rallied outside
the police headquarters and government buildings. Others
marched in the streets and put up barricades, but there was no
violence.
Adam Curry: I really liked the power of numbers in this one. It
really shows you what what people can do if they can
actually band together. Yeah. Did you see that in the Hong
Kong some of that aerial footage where an ambulance needed to get
through and the people just parted beautifully. Yeah and
that great. Like that is some that's crowd discipline right
there. I don't I don't know if that's possible in in the West
year. I don't think so. But it shows you got a million people
and all of us oh man they don't want any of that in in in like
Beijing. Imagine Beijing. Get a couple million people hey, we're
kind of sick and tired of ug B
John C. Dvorak: 5 million. Yeah, they'd have 5 million people and
I down the place now
Adam Curry: that's something I'm sure someone's working on. They
did pretty good with his Hong Kong operation that nice signs
all professionally printed. You know, people were were were all
prepared and rallied for this. Yeah. If they could get that
done in Beijing that that would that would teach Xiao Jing ping
a little lesson. I think
John C. Dvorak: something would happen. Maybe it was a dry run
for that area. It might be a dry run. You never know it's
possible. To Hell of a dry run.
Adam Curry: People were people that were were in on it. They
were grieves and like, I don't want this happening.
John C. Dvorak: So there was about they laid off 72 cops in
Philadelphia who were watching this happen by the way, this is
a big trend right now. They're busting cocked. Putting cops on
leave if they post on Facebook, this is an old what is an old
story cops busted for Facebook posts.
Adam Curry: Oh, yes, I saw this. Just before we went on our
honeymoon. Do want me to play the clip play that sorry.
Unknown: Hundreds of police officers around the country are
taking heat tonight for public posts that they made on
Facebook. Here's the problem. A lot of people think the posts
were violent, racist, and sexist. Police in Philadelphia
are among those under investigation and Don Taylor's
their people at this rally outside the Philadelphia Police
Headquarters weren't surprised by what they read in the racist
Social media rants we live here in this city, that Solomon
Jones, one of the protest organizers says the brazen
public display took it to a different level
as a turning point because they felt the license to engage in
hate in a public way. And what that says to me is that there is
a culture that allows that to happen.
The Facebook posts in question contain discriminatory opinions.
If our country was all Caucasian, the homicide rate
would drop 70%. Perhaps we should be very suspicious of all
Muslims in this country, said another or encouraged violence.
It's a good day for a chokehold. They were collected by the
Plainview project, a group of lawyers and activists, who over
two years painstakingly reviewed the Facebook pages of 3500
current and former police officers in a departments Dallas
and Denison, Texas, Lake County, Florida, St. Louis, Twin Falls,
Idaho, Phoenix, York, Pennsylvania and Philadelphia,
where over 300 officers were flagged for allegedly expressing
racist, violent or misogynistic views.
I want the 328 officers who are on active duty to be taken off
the street right now because it says to me that your mindset is
one that you don't feel that my life is valuable
all eight police departments have said have issued statements
saying they found those posts objectionable four of them have
put some of their officers on temporary desk duty pending
investigations now different departments have different
policies about this kind of behavior. But David only St.
Louis has referred the matter to a prosecutor
Adam Curry: you know what's too bad about this in this story is
that there's no way since it's all been deleted and and and
closed down. There's no way to really read any of these
comments in context. Wrong. It's still up
John C. Dvorak: there copy the original comments are not still
up but plain view the website that tracks it literally finds
cops and tracks them and then repost their comments with their
with the follow ups and all the rest of it. Okay, still there.
It's called the database Have
Adam Curry: you taken a look at it?
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, of course I did.
Adam Curry: Let's talk about it. Tell me it's lame.
John C. Dvorak: bunch of cops. This is classic guys getting the
cops you know they're saying something like you know they
repost a bust of some drug operation and then one cop jumps
this is good day for chokehold and just juvenile comments,
reposting of meme after meme after every meme that comes out.
We can have Sharia law in this country and then to have some
meme of some you know, any number.
Adam Curry: There was a lot of sarcasm. It's a lot of sarcasm,
John C. Dvorak: I'd say probably mostly sarcasm, mean spirited
comments that are just part of the job, it seems to me, but
it's not nothing worse than what the public is posting. I think
this is a witch hunt. I think it's bullshit.
Adam Curry: Well, who is? This is another big part of of
democratic strategy is to position all police as the enemy
of the blacks.
John C. Dvorak: Yes. That says this is part and parcel of that.
I don't have the background on this plain view operation, but
there's a lot of Democrats and they are I think a lot of these
cops are being railroaded and worse. Of course, this again,
you know what, you have to have some circumspection, but
apparently these cops don't have it worse as they track certain
specific cops. So in the database, you can actually look
up a cop and get all of his posts from everywhere, which I
think is a violation of privacy or something. And his posts from
you know, closed forums and Facebook and things I can't even
don't have access to because I don't care. And it's a lot of it
is extremely, there are yes, there's a few bad apples in
there. Very few. The rest of them are being railroaded as far
as I'm concerned for just being a normal person on Twitter.
reposting mostly reposting lame memes and, and a lot of there is
a lot of anti Muslim sentiment amongst these cops but it has to
do with Sharia law. It's bullshit this story is not well
presented, and this is the way it's going and then mainstream
media is all in on it. But you can go look out all these things
are all there and you can you after a while you go what's the
big deal? Yeah, see worse stuff on if you go to rob Reiner's
feed you see worse more
Adam Curry: hate? Well, yeah, they're in this day and age. You
have to be cognizant, if you are in a a position of power and and
carrying a gun is a huge position of power. One of the
ultimate ones and people are very sensitive. And you know,
everyone gets taken down. There's deep platforming
everywhere canceled culture is rampant. So via you got you
Gotta be careful. Yeah, even with your humor and your
sarcasm, and I'm sure that there were some real dickheads in
there, no doubt about it. And those have to be weeded out. But
I can I can see, knowing a lot of cops that you know, there's
what we call it gallows humor.
John C. Dvorak: Yes, that's exactly what do we see a lot of
in this in these posts and gallows humor,
Adam Curry: and I think we'll see some of that in Austin. In
fact, I've already received some emails with this type of gallows
humor from APD. And unfortunately, I wasn't I really
am. The only bummer about our honeymoon is they had the big
Austin City Council meeting on Thursday, where they removed the
ordinances, the city ordinances forbidding camping and
panhandling in the city of Austin. And I have a report and
I guarantee you we're gonna have a lot of gallows humor from
cops, and poop is on its way
Unknown: well other major cities that allow camping within city
limits and camping is also legal except in parks. And San
Francisco, an appeals court ruled last year that cities
could not criminalize people for sleeping or camping in public
areas. If shelter isn't available, and in Portland
camping is only banned on public property and public rights of
way.
Now we'll have to establish that the underlying
Adam Curry: this is this is a cop. This is top cop in Austin
who's talking
Unknown: on public property and public rights of way. Now we'll
have to establish that the underlying conduct posed a
hazard or a danger to someone before we can take any action
as kickstands Ujin show found out that last part about camping
still has many people worried
Police Chief Brian Manley told the City Council under these new
changes if you set up a tent say here on Congress Avenue police
cannot make you move as long as you're not blocking the public
right of way on entrance to a business or as long as you're
not posing safety risks to yourself or others.
This is about the next student who will be groped, followed,
assaulted or possibly murdered. And these are students from UT
the west campus area
we were chased. It's not pleasant to be
so frightened. Some people worry about safety and what will
happen to downtown streets since people can now set up tents
without getting cited. But the mayor says the city manager has
been directed to come up with guidelines later this summer for
safe places to camp and other solutions for homelessness. He
doesn't think attensity will be an issue. In the meantime,
I just don't think we're going to see that kind of thing
happened over an eight week period of time. If it does, then
there's going to be a lot that we're going to be able to learn
and apply.
Adam Curry: Yep, big middle finger to you, Mayor Steven
Adler Can you believe the gall of that guy? Oh, I don't think
we'll see it
John C. Dvorak: we'll get to learn to learn if
Adam Curry: something happens. Wow, that is just unbelievably
ignorant of what is happening in every Democrat run city in
America it's
John C. Dvorak: just boggles my mind, but this is kept but you
know, then again, you go up to Seattle and you and the public
seems to be they've seemed to put up with it. They don't vote
these people out or they don't y'all know I read well, I'd
rather have him than a Republican
Adam Curry: having mean and don't be mean
John C. Dvorak: to the homeless. I mean, no, no, you got to but
we can find it. We can find ways around this. We can make things
work.
Adam Curry: As you know, the note that I read a few shows
ago. This isn't it's not just for camping is for all class. I
think B and C or maybe C and D misdemeanor. I'm not sure
exactly which ones I'd have to look at the note. So same goes
for shoplifting. You know all all of this stuff. No,
John C. Dvorak: don't bother prosecuting any of these things.
Adam Curry: So what was interesting as so petty crime,
John C. Dvorak: low level petty crime, including breaking the
windows of your car to grab something in the front seat, or
stealing from a store where you're hungry. Stealing from a
store shoplifting knocking someone over just got punched in
someone walking down the street. Minor assault all these things
are legal in cities like San Francisco, Seattle is going
there. Portland's up there I think already according to some
people and I complain Yeah, it's gonna happen. It's Philadelphia
is going on if you're taking the cops there. It's just a joke.
And I don't understand why people are putting up with it to
the extent that they are it's a lot of these millennials who do
our nonconfrontational there are largely responsible for this
problem. They had bitch to each other, and they bitch around the
dinner table. But they will not confront anyone. This is by us a
phenomenon I picked up on. I'm ordering some pizza. So I say
I'm going to call in a pizza. So why didn't you just order it
online? I said, Why would I do that? I don't know that what's
going on with their back end? I'm gonna call them in order the
pizza. Oh, okay. How do you know? They're like baffled by
this because they never call to order a pizza. They always do it
online. They won't talk to people. It's too much. Really?
Yeah.
Adam Curry: Just going back for a second, and it just fits into
the millennial vibe. So the city of Austin has a city council
website. And I wanted to review the PDFs of the documents, while
we were on the plane, flying over, flying back. And I could
not access any of these PDFs. I kept getting corrupt. It's, you
know, and so I tweet, Mayor Adler. And I say, Hey, your site
is broken. Not a single one of these PDFs is downloadable.
Please fix. Well, no agenda nation jumps in. And they're
like, holy crap. This is a cold fusion website. That shit was
outdated in 2011. What's going on Austin, and they just pile on
to by the time we land. It was fixed. I like that part. So
we're on the radar somewhere. Someone heard figured it out. Or
Adler I know who fix that. And I if there's anything really good,
I'll have an analysis for the next show. But here's one of the
main terms. The main reasons why these ordinances have been
removed. It is because of the quote, quality of life
challenges of the unhoused. Is that some new Speaker What?
John C. Dvorak: The unhoused Yes, the
Adam Curry: quality of life challenges of the unhoused Hmm.
So that's a good one, the way they view it is homeless and by
the way, people who Panhandle aren't all homeless, but okay.
Don't just presume you're kind of being a bigot. If you see
someone pan well, you must be homeless. That guy's walking
around crazy must be homeless. Maybe he's just crazy. Maybe
he's on drugs. Maybe there's something else maybe he's a
grief ridden? I don't know. No, no, he's unhoused. And therefore
its quality of life challenges that we just can't comprehend.
So we need to have compassion and that's exactly it. The
compassion the compassion is was screws it all up. And that's the
millennial vibe. Oh, kind of compassion. Yeah, sick angry.
John C. Dvorak: It's sickening, because you're not gonna get any
better because these millennials still won't call in a pizza.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: well, I'm a homeowner now. I'm a taxpayer in
Austin. There's a new sheriff in town as a new sheriff in town. I
got Mimi DeVore AKQA souffle and me in the air. Let me know what
I'm supposed to do. And I got some points to make it the next
city council meeting. Tina is going to be so embarrassed.
John C. Dvorak: It takes it just takes up getting used to. Let's
go to update another thing we got going on. This is not being
covered much. We got a little action between Georgia and
Russia again. Oh my goodness.
Unknown: Violent anti Russian clashes though did break out
overnight in the former Soviet republic of Georgia, and at
least 240 people were hurt. Some were left bleeding. After police
fired rubber bullets and tear gas at demonstrators who were
trying to storm the parliament building in Tbilisi, the
capital, anti Russian feeling runs deep in Georgia, after
Moscow helped to Georgia and provinces breakaway in 2008.
Adam Curry: What's this all about? Now?
John C. Dvorak: I have no idea but something's up in his being
is not being played up by anybody. I mean, PBS had it but
that was about it sums up. I think this is us again.
Adam Curry: Well, there must be some pipeline action that we're
not agreeing to. Because that's what that's what it always is.
That region is all about the pipelines all about the
pipelines I shoot. If I had known this, I would have looked
into it. But I'm making a note now is the right this done.
Georgia pipelines show who's running the show there now. Not
that guy eats his tie.
John C. Dvorak: I have no idea kicked him out for so long, and
then this crops up. Okay, here's another let's go with this one.
Climate change protests in Germany. This is the millennials
back to the millennials.
Unknown: Protesters from across Europe gathered in Western
Germany today to call for action on climate change. organizers
estimate 20,000 people fill the streets. The protest came a day
after the European Union failed to agree on a plan to make the
EU carbon neutral by 2050. Subtitle chotto
simply ashamed and terrible what happens. Germany among other
industrial nations is one of the countries mainly responsible for
climate change. And we do not feel the effects yet in
comparison to countries in the Global South. And it is simply
essential to take to the streets against it and to protest.
Today's rally took place near one of Germany's largest coal
mines. Ah,
John C. Dvorak: so this millennial comes out and says
that we're not feeling the effects because there's nothing
going on. That's okay. Except, but they are in the Global South
was talking about Africa, Australia, what the Global South
America is feeling this the the global warming prize it does the
tides going up there. And then I go on up here.
Adam Curry: Well, you know, there was there was that lone
polar bear walking around somewhere Did you see that was
like everyone's like, the hungry polar bear. It's like they just
go it's just a rotation. It's just rotation. Ireland is set to
ban private cars within within 15 years. And just No, yeah, no
more cars to work. But here's the one that Ireland there's
there was an interesting counter, what's the it's now a
discussion, you probably know something about this, because
you've tested electronic vehicles quite extensively,
you've driven quite a number of them. So the Brussels Times
reports, whatever the Brussels times is, sounds like a website
that a new German study exposed how electric vehicles will
hardly decrease co2 emissions in Europe over the coming years as
the introduction of electric vehicles will not lead to
reduction co2 emissions for highway traffic. And what they
do. And this is why I'm asking you how, how correct this is, is
they take a whole bunch of other things into account that make in
this example, a Tesla runs, I'll just read this one paragraph, a
battery pack for Tesla Model three pollutes the climate with
11 to 15 tonnes of co2, each battery pack has a lifespan of
approximately 10 years and total mileage of 94,000 miles, that
would mean 73 to 98 grams of co2 per kilometer 116 256 grams of
co2 per mile, add this to the co2 emissions of the electricity
from power plants that power such vehicles, and the actual
Tesla emissions could be between 156 and 180 grams of co2 per
kilometer, which apparently is worse than a DS, a modern diesel
engine. Now, I don't know if this is a fair comparison.
John C. Dvorak: But I think it's true. I think that people have
known for a long time that these battery cars have because of the
nature of power generation and then and then you you've
generate power in a power plant, and then you send the power over
transmission lines where it loses like a lot of energy just
in the transmission. And by the time it gets to the car, the
amount of co2 produced by the power plant is compared to how
many kilowatts you get into the batteries is generally pretty
high. Now, if if nuclear power was at the back end of all of
this different story, dif totally different story. And
also the manufacturing of the batteries that that that case is
going to chew up a lot of energy in the in the processing of
lithium, but that's just taken that out of the equation. If you
went all Nuke, the story would be totally different. But
they're not going to go that way with their arguments because
Chernobyl you know, it's just, it's the real mystery of this
whole thing.
Adam Curry: To know, it's not a mystery no one wants these
people don't want it solves. Because then they're out of
business. The solution is clear.
John C. Dvorak: There's also the element that maybe they're just
trying to take down Western civilization.
Adam Curry: Well, here's the good news. I'm going to be gone
in 35 years. Now, I'm going to do 40 Screw y'all. I want to be
old and cranky. So I can just watch his demise from my rocking
chair. You guys have to live a lot longer this bull crap Good
luck with it. Not being cynical. That's it's
John C. Dvorak: happening anyway, that's just a nonsense
exercise. And the millennials are again, the world's biggest
suckers. Can I
Adam Curry: just say hey, trolls, I'm gonna go be older
than 75 Okay, please give me a break. They're so mean. I'm so
happy. Yes.
John C. Dvorak: No, get we had climate change. Now. Let's go.
You want to go to Bernie Bernie still I think in Plus,
Adam Curry: I'll tell you what, do you want to take a break? And
then and then 2020 update? Yeah, let's do that.
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John C. Dvorak: You know, knighting snow knighting snow
No,
Adam Curry: it's the summer. They're all on that 10th car on
the on the Zephyr apparently. I'm gonna do some 2020 stuff.
Bernie crazy. Bernie. I
John C. Dvorak: got some Bernie clips I want to play once the
lated. But there's a couple of things that come out does strike
me. Let's try. Well, first of all, let's talk about Bernie
Bernie's got a good pitch. When he gets he goes on Fox. He's got
guts. Yeah, he goes on Fox, he does this kind of socialist
pitch is kind of misleading. It's very, it's very attractive.
I think he's really if they gave him Bernie would be a guy who
could easily be Trump if they played him properly, but they
won't do it. Because they don't want Bernie in there. So he's
not going to make it. But let's go Bernie on minimum wage and
Walmart
Unknown: for federal minimum wage, and Congress, which you
are a part of. It's not doing anything to raise that. So why
should Walmart raise its wages on its own when it's already
paying more than is required by law? Whoa, whoa,
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa. When you say Congress is not doing I'm not saying you're
not supporting. But go ahead. Well, actually, it is my
legislation that is the dominant legislation in the Senate. So
let's be clear, it's not Congress, it is Republican
leadership. So I have asked Mitch McConnell, who apparently
supports the $7.25 cent federal minimum wage. Now let me be
clear, I think a seven and a quarter minimum wage right now
is a starvation wage. It is a disgrace. Minimum wage has not
been raised in 12 years. So I am pushing very hard to make sure
that we have a $15 minimum wage, so that if you work 40 hours in
this country, you can live with a shred of dignity. That's not a
lot of money. Now, I went to a Walmart in Bentonville,
Arkansas, to make this point, that the family that owns
Walmart, is the Walton family. As you may know, Nana, the
Walton family is the wealthiest family in America, they are
worth $175 billion 175 billion, they should be able to pay their
workers a living wage at least $11 an hour. And now you have
the absurd situation. That because they have a starting
minimum wage in Walmart of $11 an hour, you got many 1000s of
Walmart employees who are forced to go on Medicaid, food stamps
and public housing. And guess who pays for that? It is the
taxpayers of America and I don't think the ordinary taxpayer
should have to subsidize the wealthiest family in this
country. Yeah. I think
John C. Dvorak: you fabulous simplistic argument and is it
really nails he's got to tighten it up, though.
Unknown: Well, he's
John C. Dvorak: not going to tighten anything up.
Adam Curry: You know. Interesting that I asked the
producer mo Are there any black celebrities? Who are who
actually get it and are talking about ados? says yes, one Killer
Mike, but he's all in on Bernie. Which is interesting.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, Killer Mike. Well, Killer Mike was one
of the last guys they used to Tavis Smiley before he was
railroaded out of his job.
Adam Curry: I haven't heard from him recently.
John C. Dvorak: No, it's because they took him they took him out.
He was a little to liberal. I mean, in an old fashioned sense.
He was like for guns. He thought that the black community should
know that they should be armed to the teeth. And him and Killer
Mike talked about gun control. We had a clip of it. And how
blacks needed to be armed and was like, Well, why would you
want to take your arm dorms away from the black community? It's
the only way they can protect themselves. bow out. Get him out
of here.
Adam Curry: Let me see. We have a couple there. Your rotor
phonebank lineage two cents 55 year maybe this was it. This is
one of your clips. I think
Unknown: that black people have learned to the extent that we
love this country, whatever that means that we have learned to
love this country in spite of and not because
I love America. This is a it's an
Adam Curry: important is a long clip. Was this yours? Yeah.
Unknown: thing for me to say because unlike a lot of other
people in this country, black or white, I've traveled to work.
And I just traveled a couple of states where I wouldn't states
where my grandparents and my vacation. I've traveled the
world and there is no other country with the type of
opportunity.
Adam Curry: Yeah, and I don't know where the guns party
John C. Dvorak: is going. But that's okay. Yeah, the the two
of them are big, you know, and then also smiley went off with
Cornell. That guy's Yeah, Cornell West, Cornell West. He
went onto the road with him to condemn him
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Oops. And I
John C. Dvorak: saw him be him being all for the Second
Amendment and condemning Obama with Cornell who also
disappeared, they disappeared him, you know, just sidelined.
And they basically did the same thing. They were Ray McGovern
and everybody else that the media doesn't agree with, they
just push them all get rid of them over the edge, and you can
go find work on your own you bastard. And that was the end of
Tavis Smiley. So you got to don't know that you can actually
get your message out by starting a podcast.
Adam Curry: So Bernie's, if you were to just restate what Bernie
said, what's his message? What is this pitch
John C. Dvorak: his pitches that? Why is the taxpayer
essentially subsidizing the workers at Walmart with by
giving them food stamps, and all these other things because
Walmart won't paying him but pay him a living wage in the US the
taxpayer as backup. It's there's no reason for it. You just make
Walmart pay him more. And you can do that through legislation.
That's Bernie's message. Well, that's been out there for a
while. Yeah. Well, he's the only one that seems to be continually
pushing. Here's this other one. And this one kind of gets,
brings a question up in my mind this is Bernie in the mythical
working people think at
Unknown: all. Sir, let me drill down on that, because here's
what Maria is Vaart, the executive director of the
Democratic socialists for America told The New York Times
last year, our ultimate goal really is for working people to
run our society and run our workplaces and our economies.
And back in the 70s. You seem to agree, here's a quote from you.
I favor the public ownership of utilities, banks and major
industries. Senator, do you still believe that in the public
office of major industry, that
was not why I
live in the city that you're taught where I am right now, we
do have public ownership of our electric department and they do
a pretty good job. A lot of electric departments all over
this country are publicly on Do I believe that workers should
have more say, and be sitting on the boards of large
corporations? Yes, I do. Do I believe that we should break up
some of the major banks on Wall Street and support credit unions
and community banks? Yes, I do. So I think really, one of the
things that we have to look at is the fact that power in this
country rests with just a handful of people, you got six
financial institutions that have assets equivalent of 54% of the
GDP, six institutions control the flow of trillions of
dollars. When we talk about democracy, it means not just
voting every two years, it's giving working people more of a
say in what goes on in the economy.
John C. Dvorak: So here's what I asked a couple of things. First
of all, why doesn't he promote a wealth tax? Which I have an
essay on that I'll be putting on cosmic
Adam Curry: cosmic? Oh, good, always like a cosmic leaning
essay,
John C. Dvorak: which will explain explain what my position
but who are these mythical working people working people?
Who are these working people that talk about the gardener's?
Are they talking about the guys at the toll booth? Are they
talking about somebody on an assembly line? They wanted to
get the Tesla factory? I mean, what is this working people? Why
should they be given so much power? Their slave wage slaves
is what he's talking about. And they're there. They can be
anybody. I mean, we're working people from a basic definition.
Right now we're working. And just anybody that does anything,
you got your garden in your own backyard, you pound a nail in
your house, is that mean? You're a worker working? This is
bullcrap is working the working people, the working people,
everybody's a working person, at some level. So
Adam Curry: what is it code for that is code for something code
for the poor? I don't know
John C. Dvorak: what it's code for to be honest about it. I'll
tell you what it is. It's cool. It's It's code for you. Being a
communist socialist. It's a words that don't mean anything
but it's a signal. It's like not virtue signal. It's like, Hey,
I'm going to use these terms because now you can identify me.
We're fellow travelers. A couple of reds.
Adam Curry: Is there I like it. A couple of reds. Is there some
secret handshake or decoder ring?
John C. Dvorak: And they recognize each other pretty
easily? Couple of reds Keppler reds.
Adam Curry: I have a 2020 clip. Okay. I was waiting for it to
happen. Who was ABC is ABC have they picked someone that they'd
like yet? If they decided to
John C. Dvorak: some I think all the networks right now are all
in for Biden and they're doing what they can to just throw
stuff at him to see if he can but it bounces off. We're not
worried. Well, they worried but they're in for Biden Titans. The
guy Tom
Adam Curry: Yamas through the kitchen sink at Biden. I mean,
literally everything that we've been Talking about that
troublesome when it comes to Joe Biden. Sleepy Joe. Isn't that
isn't that the name be sleepy Joe. Sleepy Joe is a sleepy guy
like sleepy Joe. Sleepy Joe. Here's his problem. We have two
problems. One is China. We know China. Really the problem is his
kid. That's the problem. He got problematic in 2014,
Unknown: Ukrainians sick of corruption revolted. Vice
President Joe Biden went to Kyiv. To help the new government
you have
to fight the cancer of corruption.
But then something strange happened. Just three weeks
later, a Ukrainian natural gas company Burisma accused of
corruption appoints Hunter Biden seen here in their promotional
videos to their board of directors paying his firm more
than a million dollars a year. Hunter, a lawyer who had just
been discharged from the Navy Reserves for testing positive
for cocaine, Mr. Hunter Biden. She has served on other boards,
but had no known experience in Ukraine or natural gas. We went
to Kyiv and found even among Joe Biden supporters in Ukraine,
conscious hiring was troubling.
I think that Hunter Biden did a very bad thing. And he was very
wrong. He allowed his name to be abused.
And Ukraine wasn't the only country where Hunter Biden's
business and his father's diplomacy as vice president
intersected. It also happened in China. This video shows Chinese
diplomats greeting Vice President Biden as he arrived in
Beijing in December of 2013. Right by his side, his son
Hunter. Less than two weeks later, Hunter's firm had new
business, creating an investment fund in China involving the
government controlled Bank of China. With reports they hope to
raise $1.5 billion. Hunter still plays a role in the fund. His
lawyer says his stake is worth about half a million dollars.
Both Hunter and his lawyer say he never discussed any of his
overseas work with his father, Biden's campaign team told us
that the Vice President acted at all times in a manner consistent
with well established Executive Branch Ethics standards. Now in
response to our questions, the Biden campaign for the first
time is announcing if he's elected, he will invoke a new
ethics policy on his first day in office that would empower
White House lawyers to monitor for any types of conflicts of
interest.
Adam Curry: I'd say that was a pretty big trial balloon if
they're just testing stuff out.
John C. Dvorak: That was a good one. That was they're nailing
you. It's not going to have any effect. Biden is the guy. Well,
you said Biden, Kamala Harris. I gotta say, yes. And that's This
is No, are you going? Yeah. And I will say this, she's attacking
Biden left and right, again, part of the process. And she
will be picked because this is not an uncommon. This happened
with George HW Bush, when he was running against Reagan. They
were judged voodoo economics, and the guy's a maniac, and he's
only a Hollywood guy and blah, blah, blah, boom, Vice
President. I'm just happened with Lyndon Johnson and Jack
Kennedy. This happens with a lot of these guys. They hate, you
know, they're running against each other to get the presidency
and then they relent and they become the vice president. But
it showed the show a lot of gumption.
Adam Curry: Well, I'm, I'm, I'm going back and I'm going to say,
again, that it's that his choice will be Stacey Abrams. That's
the that is the only logical choice for the Democrat party.
It is definitely not Kamala Harris.
John C. Dvorak: Unless I'm sticking with Kamala Harris. I
think Stacey Abrams is too plump, problematic. And by the
way, if if she if he picks Kamala Harris, Stacey Abrams
will say that she got picked.
Adam Curry: Yeah, she declined. She has better things to do at
the Council on Foreign Relations.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. And whatever else she's involved in,
which is sketchy.
Adam Curry: I'm just saying if I was if I was advising the
Democrat party, I would not say I would say camelhair is bad
idea. Why? Well, because the black vote will will shun her.
John C. Dvorak: It's possible. But Kamla Harris is very good
politically, and she's been worse. She's wormed her way up
to the ranks and as a US senator from North Dotson status and
Adam Curry: going that's before them. That's before the debate
of the Muller report.
John C. Dvorak: And then we go with you to see I don't think
Stacey Abrams is even in play, but you you you're totally
convinced that she is Yes,
Adam Curry: I do. Well, you you still have thoughts on Hillary
Clinton. I do. Are they dirty thoughts are just thoughts.
Sorry. Anyone else we need to
John C. Dvorak: Nothing. I mean, I don't have any more clips from
anyone. I don't think
Adam Curry: Buddha judge me. I tried to get a clip of Buddha
judge. He went, he went to some black voters in, in some small
town and wasn't maybe no, it was South Bend actually South Bend,
Indiana. I think a cop had been like it was Black Lives Matter
people.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, they get to dish out like, some poor guy.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: And then and he's standing there. And he's like,
Well, you know, whatever. He was just very quiet. And then a
certain point he says, Well, I'm not asking for your vote. The
people want You ain't getting it either. It was. It was it was
inaudible I really wanted to clip it. We just could not
cannot hear what was going on. But he's he's failing. It's
failing.
John C. Dvorak: But he was he's a mayor, a small town mayor,
Adam Curry: small town from a hamlet Hamlet.
John C. Dvorak: So let's go there is an interesting I got
this, pull this down from democracy now with saving fine,
I'm not going to do this to embarrass you. Because I don't
think a lot of people would pick this up. But if you're a news
presenter telling this story, I think you might want to use
either a fact checker or you got editors or somebody would pick
it up. But nobody picked it up post. So let's play. There's a
big oil refinery going up in smoke down in Philadelphia,
Philadelphia. Yeah, oil refinery report from democracy now just
in Philadelphia
Unknown: battled a massive fire overnight after a large
explosion at 150 year old refinery in South Philadelphia.
This marked the second time this month emergency responders were
called to the Philadelphia energy solutions refining
complex, which produces 335,000 barrels of crude oil every day.
It's said to be the largest such complex on the US Eastern
Seaboard. No injuries were reported, but nearby
neighborhoods were ordered to shelter in place.
Adam Curry: Well, okay, you're right. You're not trying to
embarrass me the only thing I could if I just hearing that the
only thing I would go and look up is the 150 year old claim.
John C. Dvorak: Well, that is worth looking at. Because I find
that hard to believe. Because we don't boil refiners. It may
there may have been a facility there, you know, because
Pennsylvania was one of the earliest producers of oil. But
it's when she says the first produces it produces what three
and a 3000 Barrels Oh,
Adam Curry: it doesn't produce it processes
John C. Dvorak: Exactly. What you said processes. Now, the
other thing they did, she left out the best part of the story.
To me if she wanted to be you know, sterile or just terrible,
you would met you as such to talk about the hydrofluoric
alkylation plant. This is one of the few refineries known that
there's maybe a dozen in the country that use this process.
It's a process to make ISO octane or some other chemicals
that are really important to gasoline, and especially in cold
weather climates. But the processes can be used with
either sulfuric acid as a base or hydrofluoric acid, which is
the most deadly thing on earth. And it's right in the middle. I
didn't I was just reading about this and holy crap, they're
using h f, which is the worst stuff. One drop of hydrofluoric
acid, one drop, you say of a drop of hydrofluoric acid, you
drop it on your hand, goes right through, reaches down through
the skin and attacks the bones and dissolves them sweet. This
is a plague of a product that shouldn't be used to hide this
sulfuric acid version of these of these facilities work just as
well they just these it costs a little more. It's a cheaper way
to go with the hydrochloric acid but in the middle of the town
and if this thing's burning, and it hydrofluoric acid gas leaks
out and or explodes. You're gonna have a huge health problem
in that area. Huge. And she doesn't even mention it well,
Adam Curry: being the guy who was kind of from Jersey. Hey,
who cares? It's Philly. In 1866, one year after the end of the
Civil War, Atlantic petroleum company established its
operations at Point Breeze along the Schuylkill River below
persoonlijke Avenue. Four warehouses were built and those
could store 50,000 barrels of refined oil product, mostly
kerosene used as lamp oil to light the homes and businesses
in the growing city. Yeah. So that's where the 150 years comes
from.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. The warehouse.
Adam Curry: Well, to be fair, it says the PE s Philadelphia
refining complex has been part of the neighborhood for over 150
years, and is closely tied to the growth of the American oil
industry that's their own their own headline from
John C. Dvorak: say that if you have If you're in the middle of
Philadelphia and you have a hydrofluoric acid process in the
middle of a such a populous area I would die would that's what
I'd be getting. If I was a local I mean seriously, I'd get out of
town I take a vacation while there's things burnin. Come back
your house is like dissolved.
Adam Curry: Have you noticed that ever since the
pharmaceutical companies got this mandatory vaccination stuff
in place in New York now by law, yeah, the measles stories have
just kind of evaporated. It's just it's just something we want
to pay attention to. It's one of those crazy things that happens
it's everything got saw a coincidence. Once we had the law
in place, it was great. We all live and it's all a happy day.
Crazy. That was just
John C. Dvorak: actually I failed to note that.
Unknown: I think not.
Adam Curry: And then for our friends and Gitmo nation east
from Reuters headline. London murder rate overtakes New York
as knife crime rises. knife crime. That's right. 15 murders
in London in February against 14 in New York. And for March 22
murders in London 21 in New York, if they're just leaving by
a bit, though not much we can still catch up New York. In the
latest bloodshed. The 17 year old girl died on Monday if she
was found with gunshot wounds in Tottenham North London. Oh,
that's not a knife crime. How I'm British have you but the
mayor is deeply concerned by violent crime in the capital.
Thank you. Sadiq Khan so sad man. People have guns shoot
these knives. Yeah.
John C. Dvorak: So we have a we have a couple of interesting
things going on. In Oregon, the Republicans are staying out of
their out of their legislature to actually can't have a quorum
because they wanted to pass a bunch of climate change stuff.
And so the Republicans who got in on it they cygnets and they
left and nothing had been done about it. I have a little clip.
21 seconds
Unknown: back in this country. 11 Republican state senators in
Oregon stayed off the job for a second day to block climate
legislation. Majority Democrats are pushing a measure to make
dramatic cuts in greenhouse gas emissions Republicans want a
public referendum instead and they refuse to show up to
deprive the state Senate of a quorum moves
Adam Curry: Alright one more we got to get this done
John C. Dvorak: so let's go public access in New York City
there's a big there's a big to do
Adam Curry: going public access public access for cable yeah
cable access do we need to explain what public access is to
anybody people should know but they don't
John C. Dvorak: I guess they don't you should yeah all the
cable systems of God did a deal to get cable to you know to get
cable in certain neighborhoods or they had to provide free X in
the
Adam Curry: in the 80s this started right I'm sorry in the
80s started in the 80s all this stuff?
John C. Dvorak: I think so. Yeah. But it whenever it started
it was a cable company says we're gonna put a couple
channels on and you guys can get we put a studio up then you guys
can come in and do shows. And that you know very few people
have done any shows where the crap is up to New York where
they had some great
Adam Curry: show ugly George channel J. Robin bird show. Come
on. Let me bang your box.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, she's Nate and the naked there's much of
naked shows. I think it shows right crazy adds the extra race
stuff. I love this for something. Anyway, so let's hear
what's going on. And a
Unknown: five to four decision Supreme Court justices ruled
Monday along partisan lines that New York City's public access
station Mnn is not bound by the First Amendment which would
protect producers from editorial control or censorship by the
network. Justice Brett Kavanaugh wrote the opinion for the
conservative majority. The case against the nonprofit cable
channel Manhattan neighborhood network known as Mnn was brought
by independent producer Didi Halleck, who said she and her co
producer were suspended after submitting a video accusing the
station of neglecting the East Harlem area where one of its
production facilities is located and banana allege she was
suspended because her video contain footage in which her co
producer made statements intended to incite violence and
harass staff in violation of Mnn program content restrictions. In
her dissent. Justice Sonia Sotomayor wrote, quote, New York
City opened up a public forum on public access channels in which
it has a property interest. It asked him an end to run that
public forum and eminent accepted the job that makes them
an end subject to the First Amendment just as if the city
had decided to run the public forum itself said to my our said
Adam Curry: when I lost the plot on that one.
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, these dues to producers that did a show
they were blasting their own Station and then you know and
then telling people to tear down the play there was just a couple
of bad actors that the station decided hey we don't want you on
here anymore so they did it first amendment lawsuit is
Sotomayor who is one of the you know biggest idiots on the
Supreme Court she go free is your first amendment you know
she wouldn't do the same thing for a university where they they
banned okay God she'll do it for this stupid station and as
became a Supreme Court case my God.
Adam Curry: To be fair, she's only like five feet tall. So I
don't know if she's the biggest idiot just being literal there.
All right, everybody. I think we've we've earned our spurs
today. Least feels like it. appreciate the support and
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John C. Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where it looks
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Unknown: Adios MoPhO
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Unknown: Whoa, whoa,
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Is something really out there three more of US Senator
received a classified briefing about UFOs. But
our destiny beyond the Earth is not only a matter of national
identity, but a matter of national security space force.
We must have American dominance in Space Force.
They should be very, very worried.
Now Ron made a big mistake. This drone was in international
waters really? We have it all documented. It's documented
scientifically, not just words.
We all know that the mowers are smart enough to take the
opportunity which is a small window. It may not even exist
within five
minutes. But are they? It's it was asked by the president, the
prime minister of Japan to deliver a message to the
Iranians. Not only was they attacked a Japanese ship, by the
Japanese Prime Minister is delivering a message from the
American president. Let's see him within negotiates the Space
Force.
A US surveillance drone flying above the Strait of Hormuz over
international waters shot into the sky by an Iranian missile.
This act of aggression is not gonna stand the same people who
lured us into the Iraq quagmire 16 years ago or demanding a new
one. This one with Iran.
Today. Iran Revolutionary Guard is revealing to free from that
flown and claimed it warned Americans multiple times before
shooting down that unmanned aircraft.
I find it hard to believe it was intentional. If you want to know
the truth. I think that it could have been somebody who was loose
and stupid that did it.
Senator Lindsey Graham, for example, says Americans ought to
be ready to fight and die for shipping lanes on the other side
of the world. As a New York Times left wing warmonger, Bret
Stevens is also calling on Americans to sink the Iranian
Navy many on the left are for it.
But you may not have known is it back in 2007 Congress directed
the Pentagon to set up a $22 million search for the truth
gleaming new stations.
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