You are the gadfly of Silicon Valley. Adam curry Jhansi
Devorah it's Thursday January 3 2019. This is your award
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The clue to the Morning everybody. I'm Adam curry
from Northern Silicon Valley where I live in 100 is a lucky
number. I'm Jessie Devorah. Raglan buzzkill
lucky according to
lucky people. Ah,
really? All right. Well, Happy New Year, John.
Happy New Year. Happy New Year to all the producers. Yes. And
boots and sea
chips feet on the ground. Exactly.
What now you celebrated Christmas? Yes. The divorce
family never ceases to amaze traveling
around you know, the kids are up and skiing. So we had to wait
till everyone got together.
Okay, where did you get? I got a
bunch of just a lot of miscellany. Uh, but including of
number of things that I've been, I guess, hinting about. I also
got a lamp that I needed a big one. But including verge juice
and a bunch of procure what
kind of juice? What kind of juice for juice ver
heavy er juice?
What's the verge juice?
It is the juice of unripened grapes
down? Do you make wine out of that? No, no, no. You
use it like a vinegar substitute now okay.
Sure is our should have read the book.
I know. It's a new year, everybody. Yes. Well, I spent
New Year's Day actually the 31st and New Year's Day and
yesterday, rebuilding my surface go laptop tablet thing? Ah, that
was that was a nightmare. How do you rebuild it, you just go,
let's just
change the screen, put a new keyboard on it. This
is what happened. You know, when I got that thing was somewhere
in between the 1803 and 1804. Update and I got it and then
retracted it. And so anyway, at a certain point, the you know,
the 31st, I turned on the morning, boom, Master Boot
Record corrupted blue screens. But I'm like, Oh, I have this
chronic product, which will help me restore no problem. And I
love that you were supposed to be able to restore from the
cloud?
Well, I bet you that worked great.
It would have worked great word, not that the product, here's the
problem. The way it works is you use their software, and then
it's going to reboot, and then it goes into some low level
thing. And then it'll suck everything down from the cloud
and restore it, which I think does actually work.
Unfortunately, the product is looking for your network
interface card, your NIC card at a very low level, and the
surface only has a USB C and Wi Fi. So I had an Ethernet dongle,
but it won't do that. It doesn't recognize it. Yeah, it's just
looking low level. And then it's like, oh, I can't find one. And
then it just restarts or tries to restart, see how to code on
it. Now it's not low level enough. It has to be somehow
different, like an internal card, not an external thing.
Well, that's a security thing, obviously. Yeah.
Well, it's, it was not great. Hold
on a second. Here's the problem with the with the with you're
being nice about this. It seems to me that you went to the cloud
through that device.
Eventually, yes, eventually. Yeah. But that when you went to
the cloud to move the stuff there? Oh, yes. It uploaded it.
No problem. Sure. Well, if
it uploaded, it should have seen at the time, at that moment, it
should have looked for this low level number and said, Hey,
serial numbers that are Hey, wait a minute, this is something
different and then quiz the machine. Oh, okay. Okay. We'll
put it we'll put an exception flag up. Yeah. That so when he
asked to do the read the reload, no problem. It shouldn't be a
problem at all. It was so white. Why wasn't that accomplished? Is
the question I'd be asking.
Yeah, well, the I left some support notices your product is
does not work. It does not work on this particular that it works
with a with a hard drive backup. But I'm willing to do that at
the studio machine. I've cloned the drive of the machine after
every show. So if there's a problem, I just swap out the
drive. We're back on the air. But I had kind of built this
thing up my life was in it. And although all my files were
available on the cloud, I did have to reinstall Windows 10 and
rebuild everything and you know what that's like, registration
codes. Anyway, so I spent a lot
of time on there actually. Man registry issues, Dell all kinds
of stuff.
But, man, the thing is much faster once I put windows 10 on
and again, I think you just have to do that. I don't know. Maybe
because I had the messed up update thing. Ah,
yeah, I can see that actually. I believe it does happen
in BitLocker. That's what it is. BitLocker that's what screwed me
up. Control room knows what it is. So my first real disaster
recovery with Windows first of many, I'm sure, but at least I
know what not to do. Trust the damn cloud. Stupid. Stupid.
Money. Yes. Anyway, there was a number of interesting events New
Year's Eve in the Netherlands. You know if for people who've
never been to the Netherlands, and certainly not around New
Year's, the Dutch are very docile, quiet, calm people. But
around New Year's, and it's legal. People go apeshit and
they let it all out. And they do that with fireworks. You're
allowed to buy fireworks set him off anywhere you want him at
people and shoot him at people and here's a Facebook video with
just a little compilation Oh thing is like five minutes just
to about 45 seconds. And this is made up of YouTube videos. So
it's not a not a professionally produced piece. But it's just
YouTube videos
Yes, you did indeed just witness a man fire rocket from his ass
cheeks. To you. This might seem a little crazy. We're even
borderline insane. But to the Dutch. It's just another New
Year's in the Netherlands 364 days of the year is quite
peaceful. Normally, the closest the average duchy gets to war or
loss is a Pikachu or law on the 31st of December this all
changes their most beloved New Year's tradition is making their
safe little country feel
like you get the idea. I mean, is that my favorite is always
the car bite milk. Cannons. You know, they got the big metal
milk containers. Yeah, with the tarp on it. And so they jam it
full of it. Carbide is that carbon carbon in it? Yeah.
Anyway, this year, which I think has happened before they build a
big bonfire on the beach of savoring. And they make it out
of wooden pallets. And this year, they decided to go for a
record of 150 feet high tower of pallets What could possibly go
wrong. So they they liked this thing, New Year's Eve. And
because of the kind of the funnel nature it created, what
they're calling the fire NATO. And this there was a wind caught
it just and it, you know, spiraled up through this through
this 150 foot structure and spewed out flaming bits all over
the city because of course the wind turned there were roofs
catching on fire people's clothing on fire just walking
down the street. They're on fire.
You'd think that they'd pass some legislation concerning
this.
You can't mess with the Dutch when it comes to what they do a
New Year's they get insane. They this like they need it. They
need it. They need to blow stuff up and get all the groceries.
They put the clamps on that they'd be a little more
aggressive during the rest of the year. Yeah, for sure
they would. So anyway, record number of fires all over the
country, people destroying stuff. It's very, very sad what
happened what goes on in the Netherlands? Sounds like Oakland
in France, that McCall had his New Year's address where he made
very sure that everyone understood that what's going on
is not just people who are unhappy, but it's clearly
terrorists and other horrible people right wingers, I guess
French president
Emmanuel Macron has used his New Year's Eve speech to acknowledge
the anger which has exploded in the country, but warned
extremist elements.
Some take as a pretext that they speak in the name of the people
with what people wear how and in reality given there are nothing
but the megaphone for a crowd full of hatred, railed against
elected representatives, force of other journalists, Jews,
foreigners, homosexuals, that's, quite simply is the negation of
frost.
So the people who were actually protesting hate Jews,
homosexuals, migrants, okay, there's no pistol Frenchmen, I
guess. That's bullcrap. As John provocateurs
a little twisted slant to the news
in the US we had a joke gone kind of wrong
Strategic Command, which oversees America's nuclear and
missile Arsenal has Apollon This is Japanese television reporting
JAWS for tweeting that it was ready if necessary to drop
something much, much bigger than the New Year's Eve Countdown
ball. The annual countdown in New York's Times Square ushers
in the new year with a brightly lit ball descending down a
special flagpole. The message was posted with a video of a b
two stealth bomber dropping bombs. The tweet was deleted
after drawing a wave of criticism and replaced with an
apology that said the previous tweet was in poor taste and did
not reflect the commands values.
Yeah, yeah. Somebody's values
reflected in perfectly as far as I'm going as far as I'm
concerned. Exactly what our values are war stuff. Yeah. Did
you see any of the television shows that were that were on
during New Year's?
I flipped a few of them flipped around a few of them gave up. I
mean, it was like second rate bands. Jenny McCarthy,
announcing these people never heard of any of them. A lot of
lip synching crap and people jumping up and down and it was
just like, No, it was tear. I mean, it was unwatchable. Yes,
CNN did their annual Anderson Cooper's drunk with somebody
else. And this was the second or third year in a row. Andy Cohen,
gay production television production icon producer of The
Real Housewives series. And yeah, there's only it was 40
degrees and rain. It's really miserable in New York when it's
like that. It's just miserable. And they're so they're drinking
there. And it was just all gay jokes. Just Gay, gay, gay and
then share call them was just gayer than gay. Take Okay, can
we have a dumbbell look just something different for a second
now was not possible. Switch to NBC. There's Carson Daly, and
he's hosted co hosting with him is John Legend's wife. What's
her name? Christie Teigen? Who is a model and I think she
jumped the shark man. She's you know these people should not be
hosting anything. Talking about vaginal steaming and you know at
quarter midnight when families might be watching and then they
they they succeeded to miss the ball drop shot. They missed the
actual last three it's unbelievable. It was really bad
and I yearn for Dick Clark. You know just just boring make it
boring. Put some put some some guests aren't show up party. Now
they force all these performers to perform in the rain with
their with just their their their. Their regular track date
backing tape.
CBS pulled the plug on all this stuff. No tape rally regular
programming.
Yeah, they probably got better ratings. It was just a shit
show. But here's here's what blew me away. Did you know that
New York Times Square and China is specifically the city of
Chongqing pretty much commercialized the whole
celebration. at Times Square, there was a complete bought and
paid for Chinese operation. Oh, and they had a stage that had
the main stage they had their own telecast. And you know a
couple hours before midnight, the the Time Square was
already New Year's the day before in China.
Here's a couple of clips from this from this presentation.
Here we go.
Welcome to Times Square 2019. The global celebration at the
crossroads of the world. Please direct your attention to the top
of One Time Square as representative of Chung Qing
China, and Times Square in New Year's Eve flipped the switch
that light the New Year's Eve
Ball.
So they powered the ball this year. The city of Chong Ching
power the ball and they had more
elderly that dragon dance earlier was so beautiful and
despite all the rain, they still rocked it perfectly. It's very
impressive.
Definitely Thank you very much. The show just come from China,
the city of Chongqing and its culture history has really
inspired it to become a major international city and the
center of industrial and automotive innovation. Look at
the car right there in Times Square.
This Chinese piece of junk twirling around. Oh yes. We got
beautiful cars for you. I found this to be rather flabbergasting
that the Chinese just own New Year's Eve on Time Square. And
come visit us please. That
sounds amazing. And I would love to get the Chung Ching in 2019
I'd love to go to Chang Chang Adama.
Yeah, it's all good idea. Coming into, you know, coaching have
over 80 international director flights connecting with the
world, including the city of New York to
LA, I was in LA I thought should AOA and then they had the
ambassador to Chung Chung Ching on hand and he gave a little New
Year's greeting Hello, friend.
Yeah. China welcomes you with open arms. I encourage all of
you to visit China in 2019 reach out to each civilization and
make more Chinese have friends in the circle ball. H O Global
Village Happy New Year and Aseem nang paella
passing mankind out to you. And then the final guy they brought
on was I don't even know who he was. He was important you know
there's you know, there's like five Chinese officials standing
there. I don't know who they were they had they're just
standing at attention. And this guy that Okay, it's time for him
to come over. He comes over boughs grabs the mic now I would
like to invite a wandering boy to share his greetings with us.
Go for y'all. See now. Well, maybe that's only Jin Shan got
somebody actually. Shinya. Satsang Guan chi Oh Sanjay,
neon. Your God is your size wise from Poland Tran. que haga since
that's what that lady said. What? Kill whitey.
Oh, man, the Time Square 2090 owned by China. No one mentioned
that. Well,
they weren't about to mention the Chinese. No. I can't even I
think that town that Shawn sheen, whatever it is, is
looking for one of those three mega cities. The size of
Shanghai in the middle of nowhere. Yes,
that's where they got to get a promotional video and
everything.
You can go if anyone wants to go there. I'd recommend it. But you
have to remember you're going to be the only white person there.
are going black listener. Maybe
Maybe you're a black guy. Yeah. Do you feel right at home? Oh,
by the way,
if you're anything if you're a Latino you're gonna be the only
Latino there
I don't know. It looks like there's a lot of trade going on.
But there's a lot of there's a lot
of trade. You have a lot of foreigners
a lot of foreigners.
In fact, the only thing I have that's kind of interesting like
along those lines is Bolsonaro Boston, a narrow the Brazilian
guy. Oh, you're gonna do he's doing a bilateral deal with
China. He's Brazil is gonna be it's gonna be till the Chinese
goods. Play Bolsonaro F 24
Next Ionis First Aid Office Brazil's new president Jair
Bolsonaro has got straight down to work issuing a series of
decrees on the economy, agriculture and the society.
Bolsonaro former army captain was sworn in on Tuesday as
Brazil's first foray president since the military dictatorship
gave way to civilian rule back in 1985. The country's new
leader was elected on the promise of cleaning up Brazilian
politics and has the Justice Minister has been bolstered up
to fight graft battle through the nice Crime Listen to Eliot
report from Brasilia.
Earlier today he met with the US Secretary of State, also a
former Army Captain Mike Pompeo described a new transformative
relationship with Brazil. And he then went on to meet Brazil's
new foreign minister where they discussed the issue of
Venezuela. Now Bolsonaro is a nationalist he is an avid user
of social media. And of course, he despises political
correctness. So comparisons have often been drawn between him and
US President Donald Trump, but really Brazil historically,
while it's had cordial ties with the US, they've been nonetheless
fairly, fairly cold, fairly, fairly. Not very profound,
really. Brazil has focused its energy on bilateral trade with
China. China is now Brazil's biggest trading partner, and
it'll be interesting to see how that trade dynamic plays out.
Given The trade war between the US and China already China is
buying more Brazilian soybeans to offset American trade
tariffs.
Bastards they're cutting our business.
Yeah. Is this is this guy Bolsonaro Bolsonaro Bolsonaro is
he considered right wing?
Oh, he's just a Nazi. Oh, yes.
Okay got it got it got it got it
big fan of the old military dictatorship something of an a
hole but in the course of the way democracy now I have a
second clip presents it also gets this put in a little piece
of propaganda going on. This is a shorter clip. This is just I
actually I want to make this a quiz. See? Well, no, no, don't
make this a quiz. I got another quiz for you. But just listen to
the way Amy likes to slip in a little propaganda.
Going to restore order in this country. We are aware of this
awesome responsibility. They
dn Yeah.
Okay, well, it's very short. It's very 21 seconds. Yeah.
Okay. Going to
restore order in this country. We are aware of this awesome
responsibility and the challenges that we will face. We
know where we want to go and the potential that Brazil has
many fear Brazil's young democracy is now at risk for
years Bolsonaro has praised bristles former military
dictatorship was speaking in favor of torture and threatening
to destroy and prisoner banish his political opponents.
I'm not sure what I was supposed to hear.
Well, what it was it went on it clipped it poorly. Sorry. No. It
went on to go on about how Boeing she met met with the
Boeing guy. And the new DoD Department of Defense. Yes. The
new Boeing guy, which made munitions company. Oh,
she did that again? Yeah. Oh, oh, yes. Didn't didn't we play
that last time? It was a different clip. I've
done it over and over. She keeps doing
that how Boeing is just weapons company. It's true. It while
true. That typically isn't what you say? No, it's not. It's not
how you
do it. Oh, there's a weapons company. They make a jet.
I was thinking about the DoD audit and how long this has been
going on and, and just Just what the hell is happening with our
Department of Defense's where all our money goes every single
drop of it? Pretty much $700 billion. And I found a report
that's been going on for a long time. From 2005. When Rumsfeld
was the he was the Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld, under
Bush, and this is you'll recall September, no way. Yeah,
September 10 2001. We found out that $2.3 trillion was missing
or was unaccounted for at the Department of Defense. And I
think in this clip, they even mentioned that that was just for
one year only. It wasn't for a couple of years. I was one year.
I don't know if I understand how that works. But I just want to
play this. This report from CBS from 2005 kind of
got the day before 911 Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld
declared war not on foreign terrorists,
the adversaries closer to home. It's the Pentagon bureaucracy.
He said money wasted by the military poses a serious threat.
In fact, it could be said that it's a matter of life and death,
Rumsfeld promised change. But the next day, the world changed.
And in the rush to fund the war on terrorism, the war on waste
seems to have been forgotten
my oh three budget calls for more than like how they're
called The War on waste instead of the war on theft, but okay,
$48 billion. In new defense spending more
money for the Pentagon when its own auditors admit the military
cannot account for 25% of what it already spends.
According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in
transactions
2.3 trillion with a T. That's $8,000 for every man, woman and
child in America to understand how the Pentagon can lose track
of trillions. Consider the case of one military accountant who
tried to find out what happened to a mere 300 million. We know
it's gone. But we don't know what they spent it on. Jim
Minarik, a former Marine turned whistleblower is risking his job
by speaking out for the first time about the millions he
noticed were missing from one defense agencies balance sheets,
machinery tried to follow the money trail, even criss crossing
the country looking for records. The director looked at me and
says, Why do you care about this stuff?
took me aback. My supervisor asked me why I care about doing
a good job.
He was reassigned and says officials then covered up the
problem. by just writing it off, they gotta
cover it up. That's where the corruption comes in. They've got
to cover up the fact that they can't do the job.
The Pentagon's inspector general partially substantiated several
of mysteries allegations, but could not prove officials tried
to manipulate the financial statements. 20 years ago
Pentagon employee Franklin C Spinney made headlines exposing
what he calls the accounting games. I've all still there, and
although he does not speak for the Pentagon, he believes the
problem has gotten worse. Those numbers
are pie in the sky. The books are cooked routinely year after
year after year.
retired Vice Admiral Jack Shanahan commanded the Navy's
second fleet, the first time Donald Rumsfeld served as
Defense Secretary
with good financial oversight. We could find $48 billion in
loose change in that building without having to hit the
taxpayer.
That's been going on for a while. I forgot about it. How
long it's been going on that we don't know forever. And there
was
one gets the biggest scandal in the country. Nobody seems to be
even want to pay attention to it. Nobody discusses it is not
on the campaign trail. You don't hear Elizabeth Warren talking
about it.
There was a Democrat who made a big stink about this, and
subsequently pretty much got disappeared from life. Do you
remember who that was a woman?
No, no, no fan. McKinney. McKinney? Yes. from Georgia. The
black Democrat, or the black
Democrat McKinney, she made a fuss
to Secretary according to the Comptroller General, the United
States, there are serious financial prop management
problems at the Pentagon, too, which Mr. Cooper alluded. Fiscal
Year 1999 2.3 trillion missing fiscal year 2001 point 1
trillion missing. And DoD is the number one reason why the
government can't balance his checkbook. The Pentagon has
claimed year after year, that the reason it can't account for
the money is because its computers don't communicate with
each other. My second question, Mr. Secretary is who has the
contracts today to make those systems communicate with each
other? How long have they had those contracts? And how much
have the taxpayers paid for them? Thank you, Representative.
The second question.
I forgotten what the second question was.
I think Miss Jonas knows it. Okay.
Thank you, Miss bikini? I appreciate the question. I
appreciate your interest in our department's financial
condition. And we are working very hard on that program. I've
just come back.
I understand that you're working hard on it. My question was, who
has the contract? How long has that they had that contract? Or
and how much money have we spent on it?
In general, we spend about $20 billion dollars in the
department on information technology systems. The the
accounting systems are part of that I can get you the exact
number for the record of what we spend on our current what we
call legacy systems, and those that we're moving toward, and
who has the contracts, that that would be a multitude of
individuals. Could
you name some please? Well, I think off the top of the my
head. Well, I would record that's not privileged
information. Please. And we still have time, so please,
I would be glad to provide for the record. I don't want to talk
from the top of my head. Correct? Yeah.
So they were spending $20 billion on their bookkeeping
legacy systems in 2005 or six. This is and Cynthia McKinney. I
think she's teaching at the University of Bangladesh. And
I'm not kidding, I'm not kidding. She just gone.
This is the real problem.
I said was the problem. Yes, it's the problem. It's stealing
our money. Yeah, sit around their buddies. And then kind of
losing track of it obviously, in this kind of to lose track of is
it steal it? And it kind of but it is it stuff to your right is
theft, not waste,
and it plays into the newsletter in a way what's the newsletter
about? What's his face? That everyone's talking about his op
ed, he slammed Trump Romney. Mitt Romney Mitt Romney
warmonger.
Oh, listen to this. I want to play this little bit here. This
guy is Mitt Romney is a dick.
He's a total douchebag I want to play this talking about the
academic industrial military complex. I have this Bruce.
Bruce Ackerman does Bruce Ackerman is a professor at Yale
and he was on for France 24 And he is branching out. The woman
is fed up with him and he's ranting about Trump. And he
makes it you have to listen to this is what the academia
actually believes. This is the rant number one.
President Trump has proudly taken responsibility for this
shutdown. Everyone recognizes everyone recognizes that this is
entirely unnecessary. Only to just today, the new leader, the
new de facto leader of the Senate, Mitt Romney, wrote an
opinion essay in The Washington Post condemning this as merely
posturing and unnecessary. Everyone recognizes that
President Trump is trying to show the world that he is still
in charge when he isn't.
No, of course not. We know who's really in charge the guys with
the guns. Now we have
Mitt Romney somehow before he even takes office as Lee is the
leader. He's a junior senator, who's going to suffer from this
by the way these guys. This doesn't go over well with Matt
with the people that are the leadership of these these hot
these traditional houses. I mean, that's what happened. And
in fact, I just want to don't jump around with that theme. But
do they do have a Bruce Ackerman to clip where she runs him off?
Play that, but then I have to play one other clip.
You can He's holding a meeting now with the Democratic and
Republican leadership, but he has not actually reached out to
out to them in advance to ask to negotiate terms. You just don't
bring them into the situation that room in the White House,
and then expect to have a deal without preparatory preparatory
negotiations. So if the if unless he caves in, in an
obvious way, unfortunately, my prediction is that this shutdown
will continue for a while until he recognizes that he is making
a fool of himself.
Okay. Bruce Ackerman, your professor at Yale University.
Thanks for your time today. Thanks,
guy, by the way, he's responsible for the social
justice warrior movement. Really? I think so.
He should take a public speaking class while he's at school.
Yeah,
like one lecture. But back to Romney. I want to play this
clip. This is Romney already mouthing off on Democracy Now.
Incoming Republican senator Mitt Romney of Utah rights. President
Trump has not risen to the mantle of the office and a New
Year's Day,
the mantle. Let's just stop there for a second. The mantle.
That's a is that not something that we used to refer to kings
and Queen of England and
the Pope. You know, the mantle, I am wearing my mantle of
rulership. So why does Romney consider that to be a mantle or
does he think Trump wants it to be manful and doesn't know how
to how to wear it? I mean, which one is it? Just
you? I don't know. I would like to have somebody out there to
get me the genesis of why Romney hates Trump to his core.
It's probably more personal than anything.
I bet you it has something to do with some deal.
Some deal, the office and a New Year's Day op ed published by
The Washington Post, Romney says he supports Trump's policies
including tax cuts deregulation, appointment of conservative
judges to federal court, but Romney says Trump has failed to
show honesty and integrity is President writing quote with the
nation so divided, resentful, and angry presidential
leadership and qualities of character is indispensable and
it is in this province where the incumbent's shortfall has been
most glaring. Romney is among the freshman members of Congress
set to be sworn in by Vice President Mike Pence on
Thursday.
No, Romney, and his little laundry list there specifically
mentioned lowering taxes, right. Here's his here's Romney on
lowering taxes in 2012, just a few years ago, that
we could afford to do a little bit more to make sure we're not
blowing up the deficit. The president began this segment. So
I think I get the last word. So I want to say you're gonna get
the next segment. Well, but he gets the first word of that
segment, I get the last word that make this work. Let me
repeat, let me repeat what I said. I'm not in favor of a $5
trillion tax cut. That's not my plan. My plan is not to put in
place any tax cut that will lead to the deficit. Boom. Yeah,
yeah. So the guy's full of crap.
Of course, he also did say famously that Russia was the
real problem. Even though it isn't, he was already on that
tip way ahead of the game.
Yeah, he was too. Today. He'd read. They'd read him in a
little too soon,
too soon. I have a clip of Romney was yet on some show,
addressing the mantle, etc. And listen to the globalist words
and terms that he uses, particularly in regarding what
the United States is because according to Romney, we own it
all. It's the world it's ours.
You said that you were dismayed by President Trump's decision in
December to pull troops out of Syria, which resulted in the
resignations of Mattis and the special envoy to the global
coalition to defeat ISIS, Brett McGurk, the freital. The
president says, We need to get out of these foreign
entanglements. And that's what he ran on.
Why is he making a mistake?
Well, the reason that we're involved in the world is to make
the world safer, which is good for the world and good for us,
okay. Because we trade with places throughout the world, we
sell products throughout the world. We sell products or
products, people come and go into our various countries, and
we share not only culture, but education, technology,
innovation,
Whoa, did you hear what he said? Listen carefully to this.
Every week, as we trade with places throughout the world, we
sell products throughout the world, people come and go into
our various countries, and we share knowledge,
people come and go into our various countries.
I missed that. I missed it. The first because
we own you all, you suck as you come into our various country on
this call this guy has, because we trade with places. We sell
products throughout the world. People come and go into our
various countries. And we share not only culture, but education,
technology, innovation. And so having a a stable world, where
we can conduct a trade is a very good thing for us and for the
world.
Okay, he's talking about trade, trade, buying and selling our
country's trade, trade, buy and sell trade.
And so we're in Syria with a very small footprint about 2000
people clearly to trade to help our allies. They're the Kurds to
trade and in some respects to provide some stability to that
region, so that Assad or air Dhawan or the Russians or the
you know, the the Iranians don't rush in and slaughter people.
I'm sorry. Aren't the Turks in NATO? Aren't they our allies?
Now you're worried about them slaughtering people and and
hurting our allies, slaughter our allies, slaughter our
allies, the Turks so
so so pulling out on a precipitous basis without
interacting with them and coordinating this with them and
getting the input for instance, from Secretary Mattis is
something which I think is very troubling to me and to a number
of others
just the just wants to sell more war stuff.
Guys the worst
he is how did he ever became the nominee for the Republican
candidate is
money on me money? Money. Disguise load, you got money?
You can you can run parts of the country.
On this like, money, Bloomberg, money.
Yeah, Bloomberg. He wants to run to I gotta put him on the list.
And then he's gonna run over the midget party.
Oh, God. Don't Don't do that. There are short people who
listen to the show. You know,
I'm sorry, everybody here. I really feel bad about me while
Ocasio Alexandria Ocasio Cortez is making waves herself. Yeah,
this is very interesting. The first of all, she didn't get her
committee here. Select cool.
I have the clip about that. Oh, good. Let's do this Pelosi cuts
off AOC at the knees
climate activist pushing for the creation of a green New Deal
committee when Democrats take control of the House this week
were met with disappointment Friday, when presumptive
incoming House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced the creation of
another environmental panel instead, the select committee on
the crime climate crisis is set to be led by long standing
Florida Congress member Kathy Castor. Proponents of the green
New Deal have argued the panel will be too weak as it will not
have legislative power and may not have subpoena power. The
proposal for a green New Deal also sought to bar Congress
members who accept money from the fossil fuel industry.
I think, maybe sighs not just knees, boom, boom, boom, done.
Get out is not happening. AOC and AOC is fighting back.
More she fights back the worse it's gonna be for her,
along with the ROH Khanna a Democrat from California, oh,
Roca they are opposing the new rules package. Now. I had to
look into this because I wasn't quite familiar with it. But the
way the House of Representatives works is they have rules because
they're basically they hold the purse strings so they determine
who gets money and how much and where it goes. And they have a
rule and one of the rules is currently under the Trump
administration. It's called cut, go. So anything, you want to
spend some more, you want to spend some money over here, you
want to spend more money than we have, you have to cut something
else called cut go. The Democrats want to change the
rules, which needs to be voted on by the whole house to pay go,
pay go. And the pay go rules means you have to be able to so
you don't cut, but you have to have the money to pay for it. So
that can come from many, many different places. But what
you're not allowed to do under pay go is just print up money.
And that, of course, doesn't fit with the AOC plan. Because she
has said even in in our group Green New Deal, the way they're
going to pay for it is the way we paid for the great recession
by printing up the money. And when I think we printed up a
trillion or 2 trillion for that. And so she's going to vote
against the rules package. They think you need like 18 Two votes
to be against the rules package and then it won't pass and it'll
stay cut go which means even though the Democrats will have
the house, the rule will remain in place, that if they want to
spend money somewhere it has to be cut somewhere else. So Cortez
is really on the she's she's on the edge with this one. If she
can if she can get a couple more people to participate.
She's a troublemaker.
Yes. I like her. I
think she entertains but I think she's a troublemaker and I think
it's fun to watch.
It's incredibly fun to watch. She
really knows how Pelosi
operates. No, not yet. She'll find out
his daughter had some comments that they were quoted locally
saying that
she's the documentary filmmaker is not Pelosi slaughtered OCB.
She
says my mom could cut your head off and you wouldn't even know
you're bleeding
and her head has gone on her head is gone.
All right. So we got that taken care of, I noticed is one thing
that's not being played in our news at all. And that is the the
old bromide the Chinese like to use when they get into trouble
with us, which is threatened Taiwan. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.
France 24. This giant China Taiwan heats up.
reunification is inevitable. She's in pings message to Taiwan
40 years after China ended its military confrontation with the
island. Now the Chinese president says use of force is
still on the table.
Why am I willing to negotiate sincerely and expand all our
efforts in striving for the prospect of peaceful
reunification on which we do not promise to renounce the use of
force and reserve the right to use all necessary measures.
Taiwan has never formally declared independence, but it's
been self governed since 1949. When the nationalists fled to
the island after losing China's Civil War to the Communist
Party. 30 years later, in 1979, China made a call for
unification and ended its routine bombardment of the
island. But Beijing continues to see Taiwan as a rogue province,
and in recent years has conducted regular military
drills in the region. Xi Jinping wants Taiwan to come under the
same One Country Two Systems policy as Hong Kong and Macau,
the proposition rejected by the Taiwanese president.
We have to reaffirm that Taiwan will never accept the One
Country Two Systems policy, and the majority of Taiwanese people
will never accept that either.
Meanwhile, China has been using diplomatic and economic pressure
to sideline Taiwan on the global stage. Last year, Beijing
convinced El Salvador and the Dominican Republic to cut
diplomatic ties with Taipei, who sovereignty is now recognized by
just 17 nations.
How is this any different from Russia and Putin and Crimea?
Just right, well,
as far as I'm concerned, is far different. First of all, most of
the people living on Taiwan are Taiwanese, and they're they're
not like a bunch of mandarins from Beijing living there in the
Crimea was mostly Russians. Okay. I think that's a major
difference. So if you had a referendum in China and Taiwan
to Washington okay so so China they would vote no
now you're getting more towards my point. Is this is this is
China looking to annex re annex or or whatever you want to call?
What? A Taiwan. And as you pointed out, no one's talking
about it. They don't know what to talk
about. They don't know what to say or what to think this, this
happened during the last time, this was a real major situation
where these two islands, quill Moy, is cool, Moy and Matt sue
these two islands that were one two owned by Taiwan in one zone
by China. And this was during the Nixon administration. And it
was going to be a point of argument at the debates. What
are you going to do if China you know, takes over the other
island because they keep kept threatening to do it? And it's
just a giant pulls the stunt all the time, they tend to pull it
in Republican administrations? I'm not sure why that is. But I
think it's because we're, I think there's some concern that
China is, you know, taking over the
world and they always stop short though they always a
threatening, this just keeps coming back, and then they never
really do anything. Well,
they have so many people is the problem. And if they ever did
something is probably nothing we could really do about it. And I
don't know what damage would be a real mess of day tech to
Taiwan. But when I first went to Taiwan, which is really in the
90s Maybe the
late 80s used to get shirts made there. Oh yeah, I
would always get well it's got Korea, Korea, Taiwan, and I used
to get shirts made in Hong Kong, but then now it's too expensive.
Like really expensive.
And tell us about your shirts, your shirt, shirt shop, they
were special shirts.
They're just tailor made shirts is all they are they had nice
fabrics are about 15 bucks apiece, you forgetting and
nowadays are more like 20
You're forgetting the most important part. You had the
shirts made with a special breast pocket.
Oh, no. Yes. Okay, sorry. You're right. I had the I had my own
pattern. So I bring a pattern over this. I want these shirts
made with these pockets. And I wanted a certain you know, Perry
Ellis patent his shoulders, and there's a number of features I
like on my shirts. And so at the time, I had these huge breasts
pockets that would conveniently hold a CD in the pocket and
disappear down into the pocket perfectly. So if you went to
somebody's house and you want to steal some of their CDs, you can
easily put it into pocket.
One point also have pockets that fit a five inch floppy. Yeah.
You are the gadfly of Silicon Valley. A fantastic man walking
around can
get to have a custom made shirt. You might have to do something
custom. Yeah,
exactly. Huge pocket. What's that for? It's for my floppy
disk. Hey, girl. Hey, girls. Wanna see my sloppy? Very nice.
Anyway, so
yeah, Taiwan and Japan, South Korea. are the places that
custom shirts made inexpensively, about 20 bucks
maybe around there. And they'll do anything. So this this little
back and forth with China is not being covered at all by our
media. And it's we're all in we've gotten about it. They
Chinese have been putting the screws to everybody who does
business with Taiwan.
The Chinese are on time they own Time Square. I mean, come on.
It's like there's a lot of money flowing the problem. The no
agenda show is not seeing any one or remedy B or any of that.
No, it's because we're banned. We are actually blocked in
China. Now.
It doesn't surprise me.
I have heard from more than a few people. I can't tell anyone
to China to check just because they can't get the show. So
we're blocked for what reason? We've been deep platformed by
China. Why are we blocked in China? It's
a question it's called the platform that
sounds better. Why are we the platform in China? What do we
have? Well how much China coverage do we even have this
that important?
More than the mainstream? Yeah. That's the problem I them.
That's the problem right? They're crazy. We actually I
believe that our show has been D platformed. Multiple times.
Without us really what we've we've seen the results but we
weren't able to figure it out. And there is a study was done a
test. Who did this report group called EMG. Who the hell are
these guys? I am G Have you heard of them? Just sound sounds
fishy to be quite honest, Mg Mg MSC which stands for AMG about
us anyway. This is mg they did a test of of spam emails and so
newsletters essentially being sent to Google Yahoo. And what
was the AOL Yahoo email, AOL email and Gmail, email and And
they tracked how many newsletters went to spam during
the period October 4 to November 6, and especially two days
before the election, all right leaning entities as they call
them in their study went to spam. All
that's interesting.
And so the the assertion here actually, I would say it's an
accusation is that the email providers worse, we're sending
newsletters of right wing candidates to spam. And if you
if you look on Yahoo 70% or more most 100%, Josh Hawley, Rick
Scott Dean Heller, Mike Braun, Kevin Kramer all to spam, then
you had the Democrats 0% Is it same for AOL, almost the same
percentage as Gmail was a little better, but they still had 100%
for a couple of candidates go into spam. And we know how this
email game we dealt with it at MVNO even pod show me VO We had
to pay can you know, because we had emails that will go out if
someone created an account, or if you want to retrieve your
password or a notification. And we just happened to set that
system up, we're talking 2000 days 678, somewhere six,
probably, we just set that up and emails weren't arriving,
which is difficult if someone wants to recover their password.
And they were all being blocked, not even getting through not
even getting to spam because we weren't an official e mass email
provider which apparently you need to need to be or hire the
services in order to get through to these companies on an on an
any scale other than an individual. It's a tax. And it's
a Kleiner Perkins company to so we got to deal but still it was
crazy. We've had 1000s a month just to be let through on email.
Well, my let the last email I sent out to one of the first
show 1100 We ended up with a higher norm rate we have by a
number of people that report this higher than normal rate
going into the promotions box at Google.
Yeah, the promotions box. That's another one. Yeah. And how did
you know that? Just feedback from people that you know that
Yeah,
yeah. Because this would one or two guys in particular. So this
today's for your information. Today's email went into the
regular box. Today's email went into promotion. Good
feedback, good feedback. Yeah. So that is a form of deep
platforming.
Sadly, yeah, emails because we've let
But hold on, but we pay the no agenda show pays MailChimp and
they're an unapproved emailer. So we pay to get through, but
then on the other end, we still have these companies going, man,
we'll throw that into spam. And it could just be some, some
algorithm that looks for certain combos of work.
I've tried to figure out what they these combos are over the
years, and I've gotten a few of
them, you still haven't done the Trump is Trump socks or you
know, you got to do as a subject line. See if everyone gets it.
Trump sucks test.
It's the TST.
Yeah, maybe I try. It isn't excusable newsletters worth it's
worth a shot could work. The
I've always known that it was the apps that is that, you know,
we step back for a second. The thing that Facebook and Twitter,
let's just keep it at Facebook for a second, well add Google to
that continuously say to everybody is your data is your
data, we don't sell your data, your data belongs to you. It's
your data, your data, your data, your data, your data. The term
data is very misleading in this. The term data refers to stuff
you post and your photos, etc. That's really what they're
talking about when they say your data. But the data that is
created by actions you take that you don't actually know, is
inherently not your data, according to Silicon Valley. And
they don't tell you about it. And I've always thought that the
issue with the with tracking from Silicon Valley mainly
location based, I think that's the main thing you know, where
someone is you get a good idea who they hang out with and and
what they're doing just based on location. But the apps, any app
that has the Facebook advertising SDK, software
development kit included, is tracking you like no one else's
business. Facebook is you with your Android phone. If you open
up a app, any app that has the Facebook SDK, but really there's
1000 advertising SDKs it sends data back to home base with a
lot of information about you at that very moment. The trip We'll
see computer clubs in, in Germany. Those guys have been
around for decades, haven't they? The CCC. Maybe was the
genesis of that group. Do you know?
Well, computer clubs are a huge popular thing in the 70s and
early 80s. Because as we got these these new machines, the
information we were getting was pretty scant. And so far you
couldn't get enough information. So you'd join these clubs and
the clubs would there which are fantastic. You join one of these
clubs, and then they'd bring guests in from Microsoft
companies, and they could get grilled.
Were you a member of any of these clubs back in the day?
Well, you would never I was never technically a member, but
you could go to any of the meetings. So yeah, I went to a
lot of meetings. We went to homebrew. I went to this one in
Berkeley there was, I think, Palo Alto Computer Club, if I'm
not mistaken, or that was homebrew. I'm not and
they all had their own BBs
generally dialed
in. But the BBS was interesting because they would have the same
experts. And you could ask questions on the BBs and get
your questions answered by something doesn't work. Those
are the days where you had to write or borrow or find somebody
else who could write drivers for printers, oh, three windows
days, there was no simple way. In fact, it wasn't to a printer,
the term
and Silicon Valley was hey, man, it's all about the drivers. Was
that like the number one thing all about the drivers?
Well, I don't know about that. But the drivers were quite
important. Yes. If you didn't have the right driver,
peripherals wouldn't work
yet, still kind of that. I was still seeing some driver issues.
So the CCC did an excellent presentation, you'll find it in
the show notes, I clicked one little bit of it, just to give
you an idea. To set it up. They only did this on Android, they
only did it with a select number of apps. But the apps that were
reporting a lot of information, the ones I found interesting
word, the period tracker. Just imagine if you're tracking your
period, what kind of information that says about you, and what
that what information is being sent. But also travel apps, baby
progression apps, anything that's free, pretty much. And
even, although they didn't do enough study on it, even if you
upgrade from the freemium to the premium model, the advertising
SDK just sits sits there just sits in there. And whenever you
open the app, it's sending data. Here's the here's a clip from
this presentation, which I thought was a real eye opener
about the true spying that's going on.
So our first finding was that over 61% of the apps we tested,
automatically transferred data. Before user has any other layer,
they literally just opened the app. So it's 21 out of 34. So
for example, his kayak, as you'll see, pretty much
immediately from when the app is clicked, but first request is
straight to crop up facebook.com. And it says a
whole load of other data to many other companies. Besides, I
could go on for a while. But ultimately, you end up on their
home screen, which is kind of amusing. Because it's got this
at the bottom of it. Don't worry, we'll never share
anything without your permission.
Are you able to hear this? Yeah, yeah. So you know, sending all
this data I mentioned when I mentioned that kayak is the is
the website that Obama, if you recall, used to promote
endlessly.
Oh, yeah, well wait, they have a little bit more info on Kayak in
this clip.
The top example here is kayak. And kayak sends your entire
search to Facebook every time you do a search on their app,
which is lovely. So and it's interesting what they send,
because it's not just it's not just for the content of your
search. It's also some other stuff like your user score,
whatever that is, it's got obfuscated session IDs, and all
sorts of other things that are sending to Facebook. The other
one that's on the bottom here is the King James Bible. And it's
quite typical of a lot of ways that app developers implement
the SDK allows them to track your usage through the app. So
this one actually told you watch first and passage of the Bible
you'd read, which is what Facebook needs to know.
Nerd God, but think about that. Facebook knows what chapter or
verse you're on in your King James Bible app.
But we don't do anything with your data.
And then the last bit is the actual advertising data that
Facebook users and this is a request to the ad network. And
some slightly interesting stuff that comes from here is that you
know vices on charge, the battery percentage is full.
There's free space. And this isn't this isn't even the most
comprehensive example, I've seen other data on there, such as
accelerometer positions. Now the slight interesting thing, again,
all linked with the, the app ID. So it's crucial to remember that
this happens, whether you're a Facebook user, or you're not on
Facebook, and whether you're logged in, or you're not logged
in. So it's making profiles are being made, regardless of
whether you're having a Facebook account, or you don't have a
Facebook account where you have to use some of these apps and a
profile is being built.
People don't know this. This is really, really evil. And there
are 1000s to give you the advertising you want, Adam? Oh,
sure. Sure. Isaac targeted to you.
Yes. But they're doing this before the app even is
functional for you. You're just opening the app, and it's
sending all this. That's what Chrome does to open up Chrome,
it's talking to home base for an hour person and all kinds of
stuff. Who knows? It's disgusting.
It is disgusting as it should be illegal. I think it is actually
in some funny way. Oh, really? Well, I mean, due to cookies. So
there's a bunch of laws about you can't go on somebody else's
machine and start using their storage. I know when you sign up
for one of the browsers, it probably it probably has it in
the house, at least when you sign up the terms of service
should be illegal, the
worst is Ancestry DNA. We now know that in their EULA.
They actually.
So if you get your DNA tested through Ancestry DNA, and you
sign off like yeah, okay, this is good. I'm good to go. You can
have my DNA data and you can process it, what you are
actually agreeing to is a perpetual royalty free worldwide
license to use your DNA for anything they want to do. Next
to uncovering your ethnic mix, discovering distant relatives,
finding new date details about your unique family history with
this simple DNA test. But what's interesting is after I think
it's three years, then that DNA data they have is no longer
yours. It's theirs in perpetuity. But you no longer
have you can use it but you no longer have any claimed
ownership of the results of that test. It's right in their user
licensing agreement.
It's one of your another thing to avoid.
It's hard to avoid EULAs
Well, something's gotta be done about that. I keep seeing it
little cracks in the in the ice, it's eventually going to happen.
I think
this will be this will be an interesting year for technology
for more like deep platforming, people figuring out what what's
really going on. It takes a long time for people to understand
and for it to bubble to the top. And you need some kind of event
with something that people can just point to a headline and
understand.
Are you talking about the normals?
Yes. Your mom, not your mom, but the normal normal people.
Exactly. It's true.
Well, I got a well, a couple of interesting things happened. Oh,
here's the one I want you to play. This is this. This is the
spot to flub the clip.
Changing the topic. Okay. Right into it.
I want you to see if you can spot the flub
down the government for border security. Chuck.
It's Day 12 of the government shutdown as President Trump
prepares for another White House meeting with congressional
leaders,
which you say is bleh bleh 12.
Government, border security Chuck. It's Dwayne
12.
Was this New Year's Eve wage? Well,
where she hammered already? Wage well is is to do eight
to 812
All right. And with that, I'd like to thank you for your
courage and say in the morning to you the man who put the sea
in China is John C. DeVore egg in the
morning to you Mr. Adam curry also lead in the morning to all
the ships at sea all the boots on the ground all the feet in
the air and all the subs in the water all the Dames and all the
Knights out there
in the morning to the troll room. Hello, trolls. Welcome to
Episode 1100 Thank you for all of you who've been here for the
ride at no agenda stream.com where you can always check us
out live on Thursdays and Sundays. I also would like to
say in the morning to network Dolly, who brought us the
artwork for episode 1099. And the title of that was Obama
referencing Beto with Obama and we'd like to start work. It's
always easy to do a Happy New Year or New Year's thing but
this was a calendar spanning 2016 to 2024 with our Favorite
screaming social justice warrior. You know the one on her
knees screaming to the heavens that Trump was elected. A little
arrow you are here 2018 I've already seen this one remixed
online, people changing it to 2019. And it's the image is kind
of Mimi. Like it is the new meme. It's a Mimi was good.
Yeah, I thought so it was. It was a tough show to do a LMR.
Four. But it wasn't a tough show to contribute for the next show,
which is show 1100 So we had the 1100 obviously, $1,100 donation,
which we didn't actually promote, but three people came
in with that. We promote the $110 donation, but And these
guys like they're all 11 101 of them does. Siza jumped, jumped
to Deadline jumped to cued up to the top of the stack. Yeah,
sure. Craig Porter. Ke zero UAK 7373
kilo five out of a Charlie Charlie FSA call yo,
in Council Bluffs, Iowa,
with $1,100.11. Hello, John and Adam on show 10 ad I wrote to
ask for jobs karma in abeyance, since I thought I might get
fired. And you guys gave me some good tips on how to cover my
ass. We did. Well, it turns out I vaguely remember. But that's
one of the things we were both good at me mainly for the
government. Who's that I ended up leaving that job. I've been
unemployed since October 30. But good news, I got a job offer in
Portland, Oregon. This also the bad news. By the way. Starting
at the end of this month job karma works. I also decided to
get my ham technician license on my time off and I'm studying for
the general exam. Very good. I have no idea what my peerage
level is. I know I'm probably around vi count. But I don't
want to go back over the years and find all the accounting
maybe one of these days before I start my new job. If any other
producers have an easy way to find out all the donations other
than combing through the show notes. I certainly appreciate
it. I'd like to request a full Al Sharpton jingle and karma
shot for everyone who needs it. Congratulations on 1100 shows
you guys are the best 70 threes.
So it can't. She'll help him out.
How's he gonna go through the numbers of this guy?
I don't know. I didn't know. I thought he had no, oh, maybe I'm
wrong.
Yeah, three years ago, he had a program that was using there was
contact lists, whatever it was that you told him was terrible.
Yeah, it was. Well, that's what did that job and now we don't
have that anymore.
No. So somehow this turned into my fault.
And resist the much we must bear all Jide about a shutdown the
tortoise in the race, then co author of Cobra asks you to lead
singer Bono friends, triceps. We suspect Joe ha Sanaya. Rush
Limbaugh.
You've got karma.
Thank you very much, sir Craig. Let's figure it out. Or I can.
I can if since Craig sends this, I think he uses Pay Pal
exclusively. I can probably go into the Pay Pal books, which
believe me is not not funder friendly. And the worst part
about Pay Pal is that it's a classic example of a web app or,
you know, web a cloud app. You know, you click and wait,
and just like an electron app.
So you click and you wait, and you wait awhile, so I might get
some somewhere. I mean, if he gives me some example where you
thinks he thinks he's vice can work with that. All right,
onward.
Ladies and gentlemen. I present the Grand Duke of the Pacific
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So it's Wayne melon song. That's right, everybody. Here he is.
Once again.
Grand Duke. So Grand Duke Dwayne Tigard Oregon, $1,100 ITM and a
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plentiful here's to a plentiful 2019
I hope so.
What happens if the economy collapses? How would our numbers
will look like it would suck? Cup? Not necessarily.
Not necessarily really. Karma to Yes. Really.
Karma to awkward producers and not this was a challenge. I
think that would I said I don't know if Adam can do this one. A
random Ocasio Cortez ISO, for all the freeloaders who have
never stepped up
ISO.
Do I do even have ISOs from her
Didn't we get some clips from her but no ISOs that I know of?
I think Dwayne may be referring to clips, as the ISOs are very
specific like two, one or two or three word pops in right.
There'll be we specifically cut out to us at the end of the show
or elsewhere. Let's see what I have here.
I would support impeachment. I think that, you know, we have
the grounds to do it. I think what really we need to focus on
is making sure that we are advocating for the policies to
win in November but ultimately, I think that what we need to
kind of focus on is ensuring that
no
bad ideas no such thing as I got an idea there's no such thing as
a good Cortes is
nothing short enough. Exactly.
And finally, Sir Patrick Coble, who is Norwich Murphysboro night
$1,100. He's the one who helped organize the meetup in
Sacramento. And by the way, we have a meet up tomorrow.
mentioned a couple times on the show. It's a flash meetup at the
Gilman brewery in Berkeley, from five to
eight. This was interesting. This is something that Mimi put
together Yeah, well, she's
down here she wants to you know, she likes to do these things
more than anybody else
flash meet up. Why? Why does she like to do them so much?
Didn't get out much I have no idea. She's like a gadfly up in
Pacific Northwest. She just likes meaning. I think she
because she's very compatible with the compatible knows that
there's compatible, and she's compatible with the new agenda.
Van bass.
Yeah, well, she's completely compatible. Yeah, not
compatible, I think is the word compatible. addable. Yeah.
I'm thinking to some the Spanish phrase but as okay seems
simpatico, let's say slash b and it was a flash meetup tomorrow
it does this fabulous Gilman brewery. Nice. Award winning
brews.
You'll be there as well. Not just Mimi.
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so I see that Jordan Peterson and Rubin are still on this.
He's still trying to make a new platform, kick,
physically a new platform and they're gonna get a button we're
going to be off Patreon and the 15th and everyone's moaning and
groaning about Patreon and the guy this this Jack Dorsey clone
as running it with the same beard,
right, isn't it? Jack door Are Oh, the Conte is his name.
Conte Yeti. Yeah, he's got the same Taliban beard. What is this
Taliban beard look in Silicon Valley of late?
I don't know where you live. You live there, you should know.
I don't know, I won't have to ask around this listen to what
they have to say. And because there's a there's one thing I
thought was interesting. I got two clips. Here they are about
hate speech. And there's an EB Peterson specifically mentions
the Southern Poverty Law Center. And I think it's in agreement
with the way
where you can kind of just back up for one second, because we
don't do enough of that. And I promised myself I do that
starting this year, is we're talking about these two guys who
are leaving the funding platform Patreon. Because someone else
got kicked off. Somehow they think that these these platforms
are necessary to take money whereas you can get you can get
money to checks people can actually send you know you can
wire money to someone's bank account. Did you know that John
has this crazy, crazy thing we have unbelievable. I know
there's all kinds of ways you can do it this pop money,
there's just and you can even make your your bank send checks
automatically.
Numerous countless ways to get money. Now Zell is another one,
which I'm still not quite hooked up to. But pop money works
great. bank transfers or explicit swift transfers are,
they're pricey, but they do work. And then you like you
said, and there's a bunch of different systems out there
where you can sign up, and then they will send checks. Yeah, you
sign up through your banks. And you get pot, you get checks,
they just come in an envelope is a bunch of checks,
for whatever reason, they believe that they need to start
a new platform.
I know this is the most baffling
to me. It's just it's it's very, very odd. Even PayPal is a
platform on top of a platform. You know, PayPal basically
covers for MasterCard, and Visa and MasterCard covers for the
bank. So yes, I understand frictionless, but even the
subscription model, do you really, to me, it's a little
denigrating to the audience, you're so stupid to figure out
how to send money to the show, we have to make it so simple. We
got to charge your card automatically every single
month. So we take it, I don't like it. We do that. Yeah, but
no, I'm not not the same way Patreon does is different.
Patreon does it per show you put out and all of a sudden, the
money goes on
Patreon is extreme this thing I do know that bitchute We might
sit here and pitch about patron why not? Patreon is very rigid
about the way we do a lot of promotions of all kinds of
things like 1100 $110.11 $100 and things like that. And a lot
of you know you set up a special button or a link to to pay pal
on the sintashta for that amount. And it changes all the
time. We're always changing. We have Valentine's Day and all
this you can't do all that with patron you have to have your I'm
a patron and I pledge $5 A month forever. Oh and you have 2500
patrons and you know this sort of thing and so lamed I think
Peterson in particular who was making I think $100,000 a month
or something like that on Patreon I don't think it was
quite quite that high. It was high it was pretty high. But
whatever it was he couldn't be making twice as much if he was
just doing his own solicitations when but
when I hear these guys talk and I've listened to them and I
subscribe to their podcasts or I'll listen to and or watch
probably more I listen more to it than watch you know the
Peterson is also calling in everywhere talking about how
unfair it is that these you know that you're kicked off the
internet and I just don't agree this is a very smart guy who has
not looked any further than you know the apps on his phone you
can get around all of this all of it Yeah,
maybe someday 100 years from now you won't be able to or even 50
Who knows but you can get around all of it this is these are not
real roadblocks unless you unless you've put your painted
yourself into a corner exactly the patriotic corner or some
other corner with this you're relying on somebody else a third
party NEC we do that with to some extent with Pay Pal but
I've never had any trouble with PayPal actually like working
their system.
There's this belief the belief is so they're all on YouTube
that's I think I think for Peterson and Rubin those their
main means of distribution what I don't see them doing is saying
hey, why don't I you know shadow this on bit shoot or some other
place you know bit shoot is is is essentially Mastodon for
video. You know, no one can really shut it off. Your videos
will stay up though. There'll be vailable somewhere somehow, but
they they feel that they need YouTube. And I understand if
you've quit your, your job and you're making money through
YouTube and you do not want to rock that boat, because they
don't you see it coming down Broadway. I mean, how long
before they're deep platformed off of YouTube, it can't be
long. Even if even if for the reason that Google is sitting
there going, I'm not making any money from these guys, screw
them, take them off. And there's a million different reasons. I
just I just don't understand it. Anyway, I digress. I don't
understand it. These are smart guys. Which clip do we play
first?
The one thing I just want to throw in a couple of comments to
it, it's always baffled me the peer group pressure that we even
got to use Patreon. We had a number of people right oh, you
should use Patreon. What you guys are doing is you can use
patrons easier. Well maybe it's easier for this guy because he's
a member or something he can just go bounced around it. I'll
give him five five mix. And then patients says you for I don't
know I just said the whole thing was we were against the idea of
a third party like patron getting involved. You know you
can do our banks will help you too. By the way most banks were
not unless you're in the pot business. Yeah. The pot business
the banks don't like that, by the way, but they're the
government's if the government goes after, you know, these guys
are bitching and moaning because they've been deep platformed by
douchebags. It's not the government. If the government
says hey, we're cutting this guy off, called Pay Pal. I mean,
they did this with WikiLeaks, called Pay Pal. Hey, look, you
guys really gonna make your life miserable? Kill WikiLeaks, okay.
You want to go to the banks and say no, don't take anything if
they can cut them off as best they can. But WikiLeaks is still
going. They've gotten around most of it. And the point is, is
I don't see why you would trust me if the government goes after
you. In other words, what I'm saying is that if the government
went after these two guys, Ruben and Peterson Yeah, then they had
I think they have something to complain about. Yeah, but
they're not it's not the government. It's just random
douchebags, running these little Silicon Valley operations trying
to make money off of you.
And if you dive into MasterCard, they are all in on diversity.
And they have the the sorrows that Soros gave the migrant
caravan caravans, maybe not this most recent one, but it wouldn't
surprise me. The credit card and debit cards, Master cards with
money on it.
Yeah. The most recent one that would I don't know which one
you're talking about the one that came up from up through
Nicaragua.
Yeah, but they did the same. And cards. Yeah, they do this a lot
of this stuff. So they have all these social agendas. They have
Entire divisions, they feel that it's appropriate for their
company, that to support certain initiatives and also to not
support others.
So well. There is a rumor going around that MasterCard put the
kibosh on someone.
Yeah. Yes. On the Euro cada your side of Akkad. Guy, whoever his
side of Akkad. Yes, yes. If you read through the transcript of
the trust and safety team call to whatever guy was asking about
it. So ya know, MasterCard says, Yeah, you really gotta get rid
of this guy. I'm paraphrasing,
I find this hard to believe. Yeah, it's in the might be
bogus.
Well, we don't have the audio because the guy said he promised
not to use the audio, but he used the transcript. So I don't
know. I don't know if it's truthful. I think it is. Why
not? It makes nothing but sense to me. I
don't want to make sense. These two guys. Which one first SPLC
first,
how to re credibly diverse range of opinions. If such regulation
needs
for the last, well, it's really for the last year, but intensely
in the last month, is what actually is the problem itself?
Because until we really figure out what the problem is? Well, I
think I think the problem is how to regulate an incredibly
diverse range of opinions. If such regulation needs to be
instantiated, we could take a limit case, for example, the
desire of companies like Facebook not to have their
platforms used for recruitment for ISIS, it's hard to make a
case that that's not a reasonable restriction. Right.
But then, but then the next issue is, I think you could make
an exception there, because maybe you consider that a
wartime exception or something like that. But then the
fundamental problem to me seems to be and I'll return again to
that change the terms website that a whole variety of
companies and organizations spearheaded in not least by the
Southern Poverty Law Center, that hateful organization, the
worst that has decided that they're going to do Ah compel
encourage. What the same, perhaps companies that don't
band together to regulate what they see as hate speech.
All right, Professor genius. Is he just figuring this out? I
like Peterson but come on. The psychology degree didn't come
with any business degree, I
guess. No.
I mean, they're either using Skype by the way, we use Skype
to it. But are we are we totally prepared for a deep platforming
from Skype? Yeah, I think so. We got other things we can use,
we'd be sad. Because Skype really is a great product for
how we use it.
I don't we're not really Skype is really closest thing to a
common carry that you can be because there's no Skype.
Skype has all kinds of rules. Their whole new terms of service
is you can't you use hate speech while talking to someone else on
Skype. It's in their terms of service.
I haven't seen that. Yes, it's in relation to me. All right,
hold on. I will go to bing.io Bing it.io
Does that imply that they're listening to all these
conversations that they have one of those little you know, NSA
word recognizing codes running and going? He said,
Wouldn't surprise wouldn't surprise me. I don't know if
I'll be able to find that quickly. But I really remembered
play
part two because this this one here, you just talked about is
the certain naivety I want to discuss naivete after it plays
this was one of
the things that I can't fathom, in some sense is the lack of
imagination on the part of the people who are engaging in
censorship of what they regard as hate speech. Like there's an
old military adage which is that if you invent a weapon it will
be used by your enemy within 15 years Okay, so what what makes
the people on the on the left because they're the ones who are
doing this what as you can clearly see in the change the
terms website what makes them so sure that exactly the same
tactics won't be used against them at the drop of a hat once
once the tactics have been validated and put in place polo
Hello.
Where do you think they got these tactics from? They got it
from the right wingers of these family organizations that would
pressure the TV stations not to play this not to play that oh
that's right have a boycott they go after the advertisers just
like these guys it's nothing I
will and I will say it was the Christian right probably who's a
Christian right now
Christian, right the the Evangelic event jealous. And the
rest of this crowd mostly a couple of organization pressure
organization, I got it I got into a beef with one of them
because I was promoting the dot x x x domain which went through
and I got a back and forth and I got mentioned as a douche bag
for promoting this and I was I went back and forth with him. So
I can't remember the name of this group is one of the same
pressure groups. So I said look, this is trite. The idea is to
take the ball the point and push it over into a corner would have
been required dot x x x and they didn't see it that way. They
said that dot x x i was just encouraging more porn and I was
a horrible person for suggesting this. And anyway you get into
these groups have been around mostly on the right. They've
been always I say most all of them or have been on the right
and 15 years later, just like Peterson said the left is now
using the same tactics. But he thinks it's like the beginning
of something it's not.
Yeah, this is a great American tradition thinking this is a
great American tradition we D platform, we pressure we
pressure you with public shaming, we pressure you with
your advertisers, this has been going on for a long time.
from Best Buy, we took the model we took from the
Skype Code of Conduct you may not publicly display or use the
services to share inappropriate content or material involving
for example nudity, beasty ality pornography, offensive language,
graphic violence or criminal activity. We may stop providing
services to you or may close your account when they also
block delivery of a communication like email file
sharing or instant message to or from the services and effort to
enforce these terms, blah, blah, blah. It was very clear and was
a big deal. Everyone was talking about it.
Well, I'm not worried. That's the least of my problems is
working with Skype. But my point
is, we're prepared for that, you know, but no one's going to pull
by anything that happened. But pulling the plug on our
distribution unlikely because we don't rely on it. I don't get a
crap about Twitter. You care more about it than I do Mastodon
or no agenda social.com I get I get a lot more out of that. It's
really grown to not just just our network there all the time.
You do not to lie.
Lie, everyone's always tagging you. You never respond.
Yeah, man for a couple weeks. You just lie. And people you
know, as I said, I think 2019 People are going to start
getting pissed off about this stuff. I love what's happening
now with the where was this taking place? So in, in Arizona,
where Wei Mo has rolled out their driverless cars.
Oh, yeah. penises as predicted. Yes.
People are throwing rocks at them slashing the tires, trying
to drive them off the road with their own vehicles. I love this.
Yeah, I this was I wrote this column years ago saying that
vandalism, because the idea is great. I think the technology
almost works doesn't quite, it's just still missing a few pieces.
But I think the public has is they're not going to put up with
it. Not initially, it's going to take years before they get used
to seeing wanting these things. You know, they're convenient
they are. But yeah, they're running them off the road.
When in Oklahoma, there's a new trend called icing. Icing stands
for internal combustion engine Ng, where pickup drivers park
their trucks in front of the electric vehicle charging
stations. And don't move. Yeah, there's backlash on all of this
stuff. Yeah, all of it. But I think the boy man didn't. The
stock market today. Apple got hammered for something. It's
like everything's crashing again. And we'll see. We'll see
how well the technology does. It's kind of it's like a small
flaw. I think in Professor Ted's reasoning, it seems that it's
certainly the American population, a percentage of its
small is revolting against the technology tyranny,
just against the tyranny. Yeah. What do you mean,
the tyranny they've all you got to do this, you got to do that
you have to have and you can't get any gas mileage, you can't
drive a car, the V eight, you have to have a small electric
car, you know, the death trap, you have to drive that you have
to, but then you get free charging, but you don't get free
charging when it first came out. Charging everywhere. I used to
be able to go to Costco parking my electric car, I don't have
one, parked my electric card, Costco, and there's a charging
station, I can plug it in for free. Now it's all paid
charging. You get a nice parking spot, but you had to pay to get
your car charged now. So what happened to the free charging
now there's no, there's no free lunch.
And now we've got all this, Tesla's
still some free charging. But then I think to some of you have
made it adapt or so that text the charger would fit into
anything. These things don't work these these schemes
for all this technology. That's why we have China all over the
DRC the Congo. That's why we've got lots of crap going on there.
People jockeying position because they need the minerals
and who else pops up in this and then you know, it's real.
Blackwater founder, Erik Prince, yeah, love has launched a fund
for electric car metals. Why I think it's metals for batteries
more than just electric vehicles. This guy is smart.
He's one of the smartest guys out there. I don't know if you
run a fund though. That's a lot different a business.
I just be a CEO is
funded does the frontman foots gonna have to go was teamed up
with one of the VCs, but they're all be embarrassed of. Oh, that
guy we can we can hook up with him. We had to do our green
thing. Yeah, yeah, he's
the wrong he's the wrong figurehead, isn't it?
Yeah, he's not Al Gore. He's not called Colin Powell.
I guess I'm kind of saying,
discussing Kleiner Perkins.
I did learn some things over the New Year's break from the
millennials.
The word woke is out. You can't use the word woke anymore.
Because yeah, because you should just be woke. And if you say if
you say I'm woke, you're actually incredibly unwelcome.
We understand. No,
well, it's probably stems from the GIL Abrams slam, right. And
you're right.
You're going too fast. You're going too fast. Because I have a
clip from NPR to explain to you that broke is over. And by the
way, good. The concept of woke is not so new. You've heard
the word a lot by this point. Woke woke. Yeah, woke. Your
annoying friend probably uses it. You are so woke politicians
and celebrities
use it. To me being woke means that you recognize
everybody uses it. Are you even woke? I want us to stop. First.
What exactly does woke mean? It's defined
as aware of and actively attentive to important facts and
issues, especially issues of racial and social justice.
That's Emily Brewster. She's an associate editor at Merriam
Webster the dictionary. The Black Lives Matter movement is
largely responsible for the rise of woke this century. The word
is tied to this idea of valuing and respecting blackness
activist used it to urge people to take issues like the deaths
of black people at the hands of police. Seriously. Nicole
Holliday is a linguist at Pomona College. She says before that
the word woke appeared in an essay decades ago.
If you're woke you dig it by William Melvin Kelly. And that
was in 1962
Kelly argued that once black words used to define certain
aspects of blackness like cats or dig it once they got to white
people, they were kind of over Nicole Holliday thinks that has
happened to woke this decade it went from black almost fringe to
white and mainstream
so there's a couple of things in here that I that I found
interesting one the fact that the exact way this is used woke
comes from if your woke you dig it New York Times article which
explains why Maxine Waters really propagated it because
she's she was in I think he was in Congress in 1962 My
Millennials
stay Whoa.
But the idea that it really means the same thing as diggit
man groovy hip you hipped. I mean what they all is the same
thing but yes,
and the finger snapping goes with it. Yes.
We just a cycle is just a fractal. We're just going around
in circles once again.
beatnik bar.
But the but the moment the club
was smoking reefer, listening to poets, the
the minute white people because here's the racist part of it.
The minute white people start using the term Oh, yeah, then
it's over. Then it's then it's no good anymore. Who's dumb?
Woke. Ben Shapiro wrote a call. He's Shapiro is a pretty good
writer. I don't like him as a host, but he's a pretty good
writer. And he claimed the term woke scolding for 2019.
Never heard of it. Well, he's made.
It's probably over. But Gil Abrams uses the term. Galera,
allow me to remind everyone who Jul Abrams is. Obviously, I read
I read The New York Times, like all day long, mainly on my iPad.
The original Berkeley Hummer, Jill Abrams, former editor of
the New York Times,
Abrams, ex editor, executive air of the New York Times slam the
time, I'm telling you. And unfortunately, we don't have a
clip of her slamming the times because she wrote an article but
this play this overall, takes on Article it's in the times, and
her use of the word woke as a term of ridicule.
She, it's in her book. Yeah, it's not an article. It's in her
book.
I'm sorry. I said it's in her new book, his new book, and she
slams the times,
the former executive editor of the New York Times Jill
Abramson, criticizing that newspaper in her upcoming book,
calling the Times News coverage unmistakably anti Trump. Let's
bring in Howard Kurtz, Fox News, media analyst and host of media
buzz. She's not going to be making a lot of friends among
her former colleagues at the New York Times with a lot of what
she has to say in this book, Hallie?
Absolutely not John. But this is an extraordinary rebuke by Jill
Abramson, the former executive editor as you say, it She not
only calls the news coverage, unmistakably anti Trump, she
says the younger staff, they're the woke staff members, as she
puts it, are so concerned about what they see as the dangers of
Trump's presidency that they want to throw out the old
journalistic standards. She also says that, given the papers,
mostly liberal audience, there's a financial reward for the times
and running so many stories about Trump almost all the
negative and that is soaring traffic.
Yes, soaring traffic. Exactly. Yeah.
I'm not so sure what the what good it does the country.
So I'll just say some I, since this is a book that has not yet
been published, I question what's really in there? This is
your typical promotion. Who's publishing the book? Do we know?
I don't know. One of the big boys. I'm not
so sure that she slams the New York Times the way this fox news
report
said I find out when the book comes out. Yeah, it's great
promotion. I wouldn't have known she had a book otherwise it
would have just thought it was from an article. And the fact
that she's not out there doing it herself with girl
would love to her have her read the book, the audio book, the
audio book, read.
Yes, it's 18 hours law. It's a very good book was saying in the
newspaper industry. Word is out. We know what's happening. Now,
it was North Korea who hacked the LA Times and other Tribune
Publishing related papers. Sure. North Korea? Yes, North Korea it
was,
yeah, the great hackers of the world, none of them are computer
literate, they don't have it's not part of their, their
culture. But yet, they're the best.
It's the Ryuk ransomware. This is actually pretty fun to read a
little bit deeper into it. And it's not really discussed much,
I found a couple of experts who figured out what's going on. So
they got hit by ransomware. And the Apparently, some of these
papers or the publishing company itself, or whoever was paid out,
close to $640,000. And if you see the emails because they send
you an email, it's very professional, this is not your I
saw you jerking off on your webcam, send me a Bitcoin, or
I'll send it to all your, your, your your entire address book,
this is very clear, they actually send along a key to
decrypt one or two files. So to prove that they have the key, I
say, Don't try any of these things, it will immediately
destroy your data. So this was not just some hack, or some
glitch. No, this was a ransomware attack, which they're
blaming North Korea for. Whereas the only person you can really
blame is your own network,
or the entity. Know your network guy.
Well, I hate to blame the dude named Ben. But yeah, well,
there's a
lot of incompetent dudes named Ben, as every dude named Ben
knows. Yes. Yes.
And I think that they,
while on that topic, tell us how you back up. Chris, currently,
what your current methodology is, so people can know what Max
safety is, except for the one exception of not having
something off site.
First of all, all no agenda files are on a separate drive, I
have a and that's duplicated. So I have two drives, all files,
everything. The whole kit and caboodle 10s of 1000s of files
is on that every after every show, and everything is backed
up on this machine, and I make a clone of the drive. Because I
know that everything was working and was fine. And should
something happen. I can just pop in the new drive and be up and
running. And I also do an a backup to the cloud. Magical
cloud and a Cronus itself has some kind of ransomware
protection. They claimed. Yeah, I'm not I'm not counting on it.
But they do have some form of protection.
I personally back everything up to a cassette tape using the
Kansas City standard.
Yeah, have you know, the Netflix has this? They tried to do this
interactive movie. It was called Bandar dash. I think it's a
black mirror. It's a Black Mirror production. Yeah. And
have you not heard about this interesting?
I think I've heard about it and didn't really pay much
attention. It says I'm not into inter movies
now. Neither neither am I. And in fact, when it started off,
I'm like, holy, this is like CDI, if remember, complex EDS
worse interactive, where you can choose the story line. And like
Letterman, David Letterman use this joke. He said, When she
says, Hey, I go to see a movie night right one
right now I thought I would hate this. And I did kind of hate it.
The difference was, and I think that maybe you mentioned in the
last show that because the story itself is about that guy
building a video game and adventure video game in the 80s.
That it kind of makes sense. And it's very meta in that regard.
But here's what's interesting that I heard yesterday, that a
certainty you can end up at a difference, it can end for you
differently than somebody else is probably eight different
endings. But then, in that ending, the guy pops a cassette
cut. I played it twice the guy pops a cassette tape into his
Walkman. And it's the it's the good old. You know the sound of
what my Commodore 64 or the make Vic 20 Or my ZX ad, you would
record your program onto a cassette tape. Yeah. And I sat
there thinking,
if I was 10 years
younger, I'd get up off the couch, I'd go record that and
find an emulator. And you know what I was right? Apparently,
it's it's Atari code. And then when you decrypt it, if you get
an emulator, it pops up a rendering of a QR code. You sent
us the QR code to go to some website and you get no prize.
But there's a lot of it's, it was interesting. Yeah, if you're
Yeah, you'd have to be about you said 10 years
ago. Yeah. 10 years younger. Maybe I would have now No, I
don't Don't think so I think maybe was through 40 years
younger.
I was. No, I'm old. Am I? No?
Yeah, you're sure you're saying at the age of 4055 or 52 54k?
You're 54. So you're telling me at the age of at the ripe age of
44, you're going to download that code and find an old Atari
and go through the agony of hooking it up and then running
this, this noise through it and getting a piece of a ir or QR
code and banging it with your phone and seeing where it goes.
No, Nana? No, you're not doing this at 44. All right.
I'm glad you know me so well.
I did not buying it. Okay, it's okay. You have too many things
to do with your time. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
I got lots of stuff to do with Mike. Well,
you got more to do than that. I mean, you've already you know,
you're getting the solution is to let some kid do it. And then
you can report it like you did on this dirt bike now. So you
might as well have not done it. Yes.
Somebody's going to do it. Let them do it.
Okay. Here's a little report from CNN. And of course, I have
it listed here in some way that it's impossible for you to ever
figure out. But let's say it's a T H.
They don't fly on broomsticks. They tend not to be bewitched.
Donald Trump, you know, I call it a witch hunt. Than it is a
witch hunt. Modern day witches are hard to categorize. Are you
a good witch? Or a bad witch? Are you a witch?
I'm a practicing witch. That's how I make my living. Yes.
And which kind of witch are you?
I'm initiated into Wicca which is the religious side of things.
Witches tend to side with liberals and you know what they
wish President Trump would stop saying about the Moller
investigation.
A witch hunt that's all it is.
This is Jeanne most always does you like her packages. I think
they're pretty stupid but you liked them.
I like her packages because she's got a sense of humor.
Yeah, she they are stupid. They give her stupid packages that
CNN go on and on about Trump's use of the word witch and then
throw it to her to have her do a package around ridiculous these
stupid it's the package. I liked
it, which is I like witches are liberal. That's great.
10 liberal liberals and you know what they wish President Trump
would stop saying about the Moller investigation.
It's a witch hunt. That's all it is the witch hunt as I call it.
Russian witch hunt. This is a witch hunt like nobody's ever
seen before.
The author of witchcraft activism calls the President's
use of the term
really disgraceful. I mean, 1000s of people were executed in
your suspicion of witchcraft.
Salem witch trials with the devil, I'm keen suppose that
witches were hanged.
There's a lot to be offended by by Donald Trump. And I think his
use of the term witch hunts is is very low on that list of
priorities for most witches, but nevertheless, it does
demonstrate his ignorance as usual, the entire
thing has been a witch hunt. But if the President stopped saying
witch hunt, he'd have to hunt for a new term tweeted someone I
guess he will have to start referring to it as a wild goose
chase but then that might offend geese. The last time witches got
mixed up in politics, a losing Tea Party candidate for the
Senate have to proclaim I'm not a whit, after having said she
dabbled in witchcraft in high school. If there's one
demographic President Trump hasn't put a spell on its
witches. They'd rather put a spell on him. You my pretty and
your little dog CNN than it is or whichever. You my pretty and
your little dog.
Damn is the same clip. Exactly the same clip. Cool. Got it?
Yeah, witch hunt.
Nothing is sacred anymore. I like it better when Trump
picked on real witches.
You know, like, like in this interview,
Elizabeth Warren will be the first she did very badly in
proving that she was of Indian heritage. That didn't work out
too. Well. I think you have more than she does. And maybe I do
too. And I have nothing. So you know, we'll see how she does. I
wish her well. I hope she does. Well. I'd love to run against
her. She says she's in the fight all the way. Mr. President, do
you? Do you really think she believes she can win? Well, that
I don't know. You'd have to ask her psychiatrist Boom shaka laka
Boom, Boom shaka laka that
was a good one. Yeah. he really would like her. I wish you would
get it because it'd be a great battle because she's, they hate
each other. But here's I got the Democracy Now. And Warren
apparently is running. Yes, yes, yes. First one out of the gate.
Yeah, well, so to speak,
America's middle class is getting hollowed out and
opportunity for too many of our young people is shrinking. So
I'm in this fight all the way. Right now. Washington works
great for the wealthy and the well connected, it's just not
working for anyone else. But I am optimistic. I believe in what
we can do together. I'm gonna build a grassroots campaign.
On Tuesday, Senator Warren said she plans to visit Iowa this
weekend, I was a popular first stop for presidential
candidates. This is the first state to vote in the primaries.
She's such a phony. You see her her beer moment that wants to
them on all the kids are talking about? She's trying to do an AOC
and she's doing a periscope videos. You know, AOC sits
around his periscope in her apartment and make some
depression mac and cheese and shows her how to mac and cheese
may have to make some mac and cheese. And Lizabeth Warren sits
down. And she's drinking beer from the bottle. And it's just
not an
attractive fit. It was Romney's you know, you need some more
unique class in the office, get drink beer from a bottle and
drink a beer from the bottle like, you know, under Periscope.
And it was like calling her out. So it's phony just trying to
look relevant, I guess is the term to try to look relevant.
Woke man can't say woke man, you can't say it. Yes. Okay, I have
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What a thing to start off this segment with I
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deep platforming unglued of god
damn them to hell, you bastard. You blow it all. God damn. He's
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Basically complain about the children being asked. God not me
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Oh, man. It's just
he's high on life, man.
Oh, I think yeah, he's, he's high on a Male Vitality or
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again, I don't think just sitting there cursing like, that
is really the way to get his audience back.
I don't think he lost his audience at all. I think he's
doing just fine. Maybe he didn't know he was around way before.
Okay. All right. He probably has not lost his audience. It's the
casual audience the ones that only see him occasionally. I
would include myself in
that. Well, no, here's what happened to him. See, the
difference is you and I, we accept our position in the media
space, which is way down below on the ladder. You know,
underneath some incurable diseases. That's kind of where
we are. And we in podcast Yeah, we are podcasters we accept it.
He can't accept it that he's no longer in the in the milieu that
Pete That is no longer being talked about. That's I think
that's his problem. He and He thrives on people talking about
him good or bad doesn't matter. And now it's it's just vapid.
You know, there's just no mention of him. Even with D
platforming. He's no longer even mentioned.
It's just removed from
the room when they started talking about the biggies that
were D platform. He is showing up less and less.
Yeah, he's just moving down. And, and I think that that
bothers him. He has to accept it. And that's where he came
from. He was always the anti guy, because we don't need them
screw the mainstream. And you know, I think it's affecting
him. Anyway. I just thought it was it did I have not heard an a
rant like that from him in a while.
Just to just close you ranting about who knows?
It's just angry. She's angry. I think the President gave us a
little clue about stock market activity. He is the stock
whisperer these days, you know, he
used to just get the thing pumped up. Yeah.
Well listen to this
would have been a lot easier for me to sit back and just let it
continue. But it was out of control. And our strong economy
makes it even more difficult because people come up because
our country is doing better by far than any other country in
the world from an economic standpoint with the talk of the
world. And we had a little glitch in the stock market last
month. I'm going to tell us
now he says we that normally I freak out over the use of the
term glitch. But that's typically when it's in a
technology report. Oh, well, yeah, the airline basically
everyday ticketing broke because the glitch couldn't print the
newspaper because of the glitch. Trump. You know, he's simple.
You got to listen to what he's saying. I think he's saying
here, that there was actually not it. Not that something
broke, but that the stock market ran rampant as we discussed with
the algorithmic amplification, and he considers that to be a
glitch.
Hey, except that so what you're saying is he's hinting to buy
it.
I'm not I'm not drawing that conclusion. I'm hinting that he
understands somehow that these wild swings are not really based
on anything. Then some piece of news and all the algos jump on
you, man, I look at it, you'll see five different big company
stocks all locked into like the s&p You know, the spy, the spy
and spiders buy and it goes up and then if you can put three
charts next to each other, they're just locked in. It's
just convenient. And so if the algos go nuts, then everyone
goes nuts and it just goes on and on and on. It's very
dangerous.
I did I mentioned that there is a meet up on Friday, five to
eight at the Gilman brewery in Berkeley
and you'll be there along with Mimi's It's fancy adorable. Come
see everybody. It's gonna be fantastic.
I was well, I have a moment here where I could do my whatever
happened to
oh, you know what you can do your whatever happened to and I
will give you I think we have a jingle for you. Let's see Tom
Starkweather what happened here? Whatever happened? Okay, yeah,
yeah. Wow.
All right. There's your whatever happened to jingle enjoy it.
Yeah,
great. That's real uplifting. Okay, for 2009. This is a this
was a meme they tried to get going to get people to, you
know, save the planet global warming. This is almost 10 years
ago, global warming was caused by fat people
kept dough on why researchers say obesity is bad for the
environment.
Obesity and global warming both heavy topics now linked by a new
study from the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine.
It says people who weigh more tend to drive more and eat more
and all that food. It shipped on average 1500 miles from where
it's grown to your plate. Fat people, researchers contend are
killing the planet more so than those who are thin. Yeah. Let's
play it again. What happened here? Whatever happened? Okay,
yeah, yeah. Wow.
Yeah, whatever happened to that? That was we were on a good tip
with that.
Yeah, listen, 2009 they just dropped like a hot potato. When
they looked at the audience of people bitching and moaning
about climate change. They said, Oh my God, these people are
overweight.
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it. Hello, John.
Good Sunday morning and a Happy New Year's weekend to everyone
this morning. We're going to do something that we don't often
get to do. On one topic. It's obviously extraordinarily
difficult to do this. Oh as the end of this year has proven in
the era of no noclip but we're going to take an in depth look
regardless of that at a literally Earth's changing
subject that doesn't get talked about this thoroughly on
television news, at least climate change. But just as
important as what we are going to do this hour is what we're
not going to do. We're not going to debate climate change the
existence of it, the Earth is getting hotter and human
activity is a major cause period. We're not going to give
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on real sure,
we're going to hold a do a whole hour and we're not going to let
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it's not how science works. It does
on NBC.
This baffles me,
it doesn't baffle me at all that they'll push anything, anything
they can, anything
I have so I'm listing or I'd gone around looking for some a
little offbeat. And so I ran into a podcast.
That's where you can find the offbeat stuff for sure.
This podcast is done by David Axelrod. Oh,
goodie, former chief of staff for Obama.
Now, Axelrod is also a campaign manager for excellence. Yes, he
is. The who I don't know who does his podcast but it took me
a good 15 minutes to equalize that. One guy shouting and
why did you do that? Why did you why did you ruin the original?
Well, we could have so much fun listening to this production
up cuz I'm not taking the chance and you grousing about okay, it
was just completely out of control. I normalized it enough
that it's listenable. This is axial rod with of all people
Jeff Zucker,
ooh, from CNN. Yeah, formers
suffer, suffer had a big treating career and I didn't
realize he's had cancer and a heart operation and he had
Bell's Palsy. And he said to everything in his life, he's
only a short guy 656. And it talks about it in this podcast
is a very good podcast, people should look it up. Just look up.
Axelrod Zakhar podcast, I have two clips, which indicate to me
that either Zucker doesn't know what he's talking about, or he's
naive, or I don't know what. But they're very interesting because
he was very successful as an executive at NBC before he took
over the place. In other words, a low level guy who was much
better than he was when he's running things. He's the one
that put Leno on every night at Tan. Ruining network, good work.
But let's just talk about him on he did fix to the to the today
show by being one of the execs there, and I want to play two
clips from him. And this one is the two events, click the clip
clip.
Now there were two events that also really helped us change the
dynamic of the today's show. The OJ Simpson trial in 1995. I
think we recognized early on this was going to be a real
cultural touch point. And we we covered it intensely. And did
you know went all in on coverage of this, which is a theme that I
would later reprise at CNN when we would go all in on a big
story. But the first time we ever did this was was on the OJ
Simpson trial. And Charlie Gibson was the anchor of GMA,
and he took shots at us in the newspapers by saying, I can't
believe how much coverage of OJ Simpson they're doing. And my
response was, Well, it's interesting. It's good, and the
audience wants it. And then and then the and then the next thing
that how can you stop stop?
When he was at NBC and promoted the OJ Simpson trial, and NBC
picked up on it the whole thing. If that, dribbled up to the to
the Tonight Show with Jay Leno, who was trailing David
Letterman, during this era, and Lana went all in on the Simpson
trial by having the dancing Ito's Oh yeah, no whole bunch of
gimmicks and crazy stuff about the the Letterman said that he
refuses to even discuss it in his monologue because it's too,
you know, creepy, so he just stayed away from it completely.
Leno went all in the way Zucker did and Leno overtook Letterman
and Letterman never caught him again after that. Ah, okay. And
my response was, Well, it's interesting. It's good, and the
audience wants it. And then and then the and then the next thing
that happened was the 96 election. I'm sorry. When I was
supervising producers, the 92 election. The first one was the
92 election. I took over I'm sorry, that 1992 election. Yeah.
And that was an incredibly exciting election because there
were three candidates. Right, Ross Ross Perot. Right. And we
actually had a tremendous in with Ross Perot. And so we
recognized his popularity very early on, and we had Ross Perot
on all the time before anybody else did. And the other thing
is, then we would start having Bill Clinton on for these hour
long interviews when the when the history of interviews with
candidates was you'd have him on for five minutes. Okay. We had
him on for an
hour. And then we had a uniquely qualified to do an hour.
He was okay. But we took advantage of that. And then we'd
have Bill Clinton on for two hours. So the entire Today's
show was two hours, we'd have Ross Perot on for an hour or two
hours. And so it was like, nobody could believe that this
is what the Today's show was doing. But they were talking
about us that we were getting, we were getting notices. We were
relevant in a way we hadn't been. And so that is how we
changed up to today's show.
Hmm, interesting.
So he's the one that pushed the the Clinton thing. Sure. I then
had Ross Perot is Despoiler that take votes away from George HW
would make Clinton got elected in 92. I think a lot of it had
to do with this guy Zucker giving these guys this much free
airtime two hours, the whole show free to Cleany didn't pay
for it.
Yes, but the brilliance of it is by splitting the Republican vote
with Ross Perot. Even though he wins in both ways, he wins by
helping Clinton get elected, and he looks like he's unbiased
because he has two opposing candidates on
and I'm sure he invited George HW Bush who wouldn't do an hour
he
may be five, six, but he's he was smart.
Now, he still doesn't realize the power of television when he
gives us this anecdote because he denies that all the excessive
coverage of Trump had nothing to do with his election and he's
got some rational idea, some rational rationalities to it.
Okay. So let's play the other clip.
And when he came down the escalator and did his thing,
what was your reaction?
So my reaction was, you know, a whole lot.
Stop, stop. I want to do a little background. Zucker was
the guy who helped create the show The Apprentice starring
Donald Trump. Oh, that's good, but I didn't know that. And he
was a big he was friends with Trump. And he said he always saw
Trump as a natural, charismatic guy who always people just liked
him and knew for no good reason, often, and he will. And he used
that you leverage that because nobody else wanted to show The
Apprentice, but he knew it was going to be a hit. Because this
guy Trump was a natural at promoting and self promoting and
getting publicity that they didn't have to pay for and stuff
like that. So he was kind of a Trump fan from that perspective,
start this clip over, please.
And when he came down the escalator and did his thing,
what was your reaction? So
my reaction was, you know, the contents of that speech aside,
when he announced was that look, I think that I recognized his
popular appeal. I think that I understood from the apprentice
and watching him and all of that, that there was a, there
was a something about Trump and his and his character that was
popular and I thought would, would work. And I do think that
that's one of the reasons that that I had CNN pay attention
right away to Donald Trump, because I think at a time, if
you go back the first couple of months, most national news media
organizations did not take it very seriously. CNN did right
away, and we turned out to be right.
Well, some would argue that it was a that it's a chicken and
egg thing, that part of what CNN did was help. Yeah,
I disagree with that. And I'll tell you why. You know, he
announces comes down, the escalator announces, and three
weeks later, he's number one in the polls in the Republican
Party, and he and he holds on to that till it becomes the
Republican nominee. So he was he was the favorite among that
entire field, three weeks in. So I don't think that CNN made him
number one in three weeks. Okay. I think that he had that appeal.
And and we were covering the front runner, we would cover the
front runner disproportionately in any race, so I don't
I don't. You said something earlier in our discussion here
that struck me and it leads to a question about this. And
television generally, you said, the audience wants it. You And
that is obviously something that's always in your head.
Donald Trump understands that if you light yourself on fire,
that's good TV. So you understand that as well. And you
needed that was good for CNN, was it not?
Well, look, I'm not going to apologize. I think what a lot of
people want is for, you know, people to say that you
shouldn't, you should apologize for giving the audience what
they're interested in. And this goes back to the plane. And and
we took a lot of heat for the poop crews at one time was, I
think what we have always done, whether it was at the Today
Show, or CNN is we've never been above what the audience is
interested in. And I think this idea that, you know, you should
only feed the audience spinach, and you should tell them what's
important. I reject that.
Well, wow. First of all, he's full of crap.
But so are you a news organization or an entertainment
unit of Time Warner seems like just pure entertainment. He's
only talking about what the audience wants not what is news?
I didn't hear the word news once. No, it sounds like there
was collusion to CNN helped Trump get elected. He's kind of
saying it.
Well, he's kind of trying not to say it. Yeah. He's
choosing his words very carefully. Very, very carefully.
I predict for this year, John will probably be seeing a lot
more of us clipping stuff from podcasts. I really do. I really
do. Because the real letter
materials, get some in depth. People that when you're doing a
podcast is different than being another. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
camera in your face and all these
things. Yep. Media. deconstruction will be more
podcast in 2019. I'm feeling it. Then. Secretly little proud of
that, actually. Yeah, exactly. By the way, yes. Meet up.
Tomorrow, the
Gilman Brewing Company in Berkeley a Friday. It's five to
eight Gilman brewing is on Buchanan's very famous place.
And with that, we've come to the end of today's program. Of
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