What's the dog on who's listening? Adam curry, John C.
Dvorak. It's Thursday, December 13 2018. This is your award
winning get my nation media assassination episode 1094 is no
agenda. Proud to be the other Currey and broadcasting live
from the Capitol patrolling Star state here in downtown Austin
Tejas in the studio in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry
him in northern Silicon Valley where the train hasn't showed up
yet. But the traffic has I'm Jhansi, Dvorak. Buzzkill.
You got the traffic traffic's about to get really good here in
Austin.
Oh, that's good news.
No, it's very bad news. It's the traffic in Austin is already
horrible. And today, we hear this announcement Apple
now saying it's going to invest a billion dollars in new campus
in Austin, Texas, the campus will be 133 acres and we'll
accommodate 5000 employees at first with capacity for up to
15,000. In total, it'll be located less than a mile from
Apple's existing Texas facilities and we'll make it the
largest private employer in Austin. Apple says it will house
a range of jobs and engineering r&d operations, finance sales
and customer support, expanding its operations and adding more
than 1000 jobs in Seattle, San Diego and Culver City,
California as well. So it isn't an HQ to Amazon style. But it's
a big investment in Austin.
Austin is already there. Their biggest outpost outside of
headquarters. I think they have something like 6000 people
there.
Number last last year, the I mean, Austin is just such a
robust city when it comes to technology. There's it's pretty
remarkable what's going on.
It's remarkable what's going on here. It's nothing to do with
technology. This is the this is the people part of the business
get real CNBC. This is the this is Hey, payroll, accountants,
content management, no technology. It's all the sales
support. I know I know people who work here. Now it's like
this the store support so the support for the stores
themselves who have a lot of issues. All of this that this
this is people town. It's not exciting, stay away.
addicted, they put them in South Carolina or someplace where
people are pleasant. But
the problem is we have such a sweet voice we have we have such
a fantastic tax structure in the state of
Texas. Yes. You see, this
is why you put the people here. That's what it's about.
Yeah, they don't pay personal income tax in the state level.
It's
great design. It's
like 10 plus percent 10 to 13%.
That's fantastic. Tax. Yeah,
so where would you rather live if you're making a lot of money
at Apple?
Well, Northwest Austin apparently
that's easy to traverse you get better that's what I thought you
say? Oh, no, no, no. It'll just get worse. This got to be it's
already a mess. There's got to be the worst thing is going to
be come worse than anywhere. Yeah. 405 We'll, we'll be
looking looked at as Wow, this is cool.
Yeah, I don't think we're in any danger of that happening. But
dream on California boy. It's still it's not good. I'm not I'm
not very happy with this development. We're moving out of
downtown that's for sure. Where are you going? Oh, either we
move really nearby South of south of the river. Or maybe
we'll go really South maybe we'll go to Dripping Springs or
somewhere just way out of the way. Dripping Springs is nice.
Dripping Springs. Some sick person.
That's where all the rockstars live man dripping. dripping.
Springs. Yes.
Wow. Yeah, no. is great.
Yeah, go down and move down there with him. Yeah, maybe
we'll see. We'll see. Yeah, headbangers ball.
Now where does that come? Because of all the old rockstars
now? Yeah. Hey, everybody. It's Adam curry here in Dripping
Springs.
Yeah, I'll go over well. Dripping Springs.
There was a lot of things going on in the world. Although you
wouldn't know it if you watch the American television news.
Now. We're pretty preoccupied with what? Cohen Cohen he's gone
to jail for three years and Trump's going to jail.
Everyone's going to jail. Yeah, Trump's going to jazz gonna be
locked up. Lock him up. Yeah,
exactly. Again, just completely unwatchable on what the only
thing that was watchable was the and I liked it a lot was a
little show that Trump Pelosi and Schumer put on in the Oval
Office
entertain this was everybody who went to it thought it was
entertaining and this I've never seen anything like it. Well,
there you have it.
I think that's the way it should always go. Yeah, everything
should be new. Know everything should be out in the open and
yeah and what was really shows you what a
douchebag but I mean, Schumer sitting there rock and like he's
got Aspergers and he barely looks at the president once in a
while and then he says stupid stuff that he thinks is funny.
What's in Pelosi repeats herself and she stammering and she's
upset about everything for no good reason. And he's goading
the two of them.
What I found interesting was that how at least on Twitter,
which is kind of the only place I can still go and find some
outrage. It was, you know, the classic two sides. Everyone saw
it in their own favorable light. The trump the Trump fans, di D
wiped the floor with them. The Pelosi Schumer fans? Oh, he hit
a brick wall she showed him. It was completely open to
interpretation, which I think is is just one of the interesting
things of our time.
Yeah, no. Yeah, no, yeah. No, no, it's, it's become quite
interesting. I agree.
I thought the media is because of course, this was a like a, I
think the full. The full episode of the reality show lasted about
10 minutes. What I found interesting is how was cut up?
And what pieces were pulled out. And the one that I'll have, that
I'll play for you is what the BBC did with it.
Oh, that's big, nice contrast with what CBS did with it, which
is what I have, do you want to do? BBC first or CBS?
Let's think what
would be the probably very,
actually BBC a thing hates Trump more. Let's go with CBS, which
is a long clip. Okay, because they really got such a kick out
of it. And by the way that I not sure I even have the intro on
this clip. But it's it's funny, it's pretty funny.
And then we have the easy one the wall, that will be the one
that will be the easiest of all,
that was President Trump's attempt at a joke in his first
face to face meeting with Democratic leaders after the
midterm elections, and with a partial government shutdown 10
days away,
the shutdown is not worth anything, and that you should
not have a Trump shutdown. You have
Democrats came to the White House hoping that was kind
of glossed over but she she, I thought that was very good. What
she did, she kind of basically pulled the Trump on him and
said, Oh, we can't afford a Trump shutdown. And he caught
it. Well, he
called her out on it. Yeah. But
it was it was very it was inaudible and CBS just gloss
right over it here. CBS gloss
over it. Maybe I should mention this. I think as he was calling
her out on it, he was thinking to himself, hey, I'll take
why don't I just call it the Trump case. You're right. Which
is kind of where he ended up. By saying I'll be proud. Oh,
interesting. 10 days away.
shutdown is not worth anything. And that you should not have a
Trump shutdown. You have.
Democrats came to the White House hoping to brand any
shutdown, with the president's name, the toughest issue, future
funding of Mr. Trump's proposed wall on the southern border. The
President wants $5 billion for construction of the wall passed
now while Republicans still have control of the House, while the
Democrats are only offering 1.3 billion to fund broader border
security measures. And you have border security without the
wall.
This wall is a part of
what it means to have border security.
We need border security. The wall is a part of border
security. You can't have very good border security without the
wall now.
The political fencing intensifies.
And the experts say you can do border security without a wall
which is wasteful and doesn't solve the
problem. It totally solves the problem.
Democrats arrived fresh off a 40 seat midterm gain in the house
we've gained in the Senate. Excuse me, did we win the
Senate? In the Senate,
when the President brags that he won North Dakota and Indiana,
he's in real trouble?
You know, as as now, having extended family in the great
state of Indiana, being a half Hoosier. I'm incredibly insulted
by this.
Yeah, it was insulting Schumer's comment.
Although I asked Tina, and she's like, I don't give a crap.
I think she has mentioned her name. That's a plus.
She identifies more with the Chicago but it just seems like a
dumb thing to do. It politically doesn't matter. But other states
who are kind of fly over I think that might have been a minus
point for Schumer.
Here's me. Did we win the Senate? In the Senate,
when the President brags that he won North Dakota and Indiana,
he's in real trouble. When I did that, let
me say that we did win North Dakota.
In a unique White House. The legislative Clash was in a class
by itself
and we entering into this kind of a discussion in the public
stuff, you
know called transparency
stipulating to a set of facts.
At what point the President tried to speak for the likely
Speaker of the House to be,
you know, Nancy's in a situation where it's not easy for her to
talk right now. And
please don't characterize the strength that I bring to this
meeting. As the leader of the House Democrats who just won a
big victory elections have consequences.
And that's why the country is doing so well.
The back and forth landed it appears where both sides wanted
it. A televised political standoff.
20 times young called for I will shut down the government if I
don't get my wall. None of us if you want to know something
you've said
you want to put that said, I'll take it. Okay, good. You know
what I'll say? Yes. If we don't get what we want, I will shut
down the gun. Okay. And I am proud and I am proud to shut
down the government for border security. Chuck, I'm not gonna
blame you for
Leader Pelosi vying to be the next house speaker told
Democrats in a private meeting the encounter here at the White
House with the president quote goes to show you, you get into a
tinkle contest with a skunk you get tinkle all over you. As for
the president's continued push for the wall, Pelosi said, and
again, I quote, it's like a manhood thing for him, as if
manhood could ever be associated with him. And this
was really interesting, because this was a quote that came from
an unnamed source. And they're kind of reporting it as it had
really happened. Yeah, do they even say a source of one of them
and just go back?
Next house or straight up? Speaker told Democrats in a
private meeting the encounter here at the White House with the
president quote,
because I saw the reporting on it, it was just because I was
like, Oh, is there a clip of this, and this is what I need to
clip. Now. There's no clip of it. It was just something that
someone said,
she said, Oh, it was to show you, you get into a tinkle
contest with a skunk.
Oh, I'm not saying she didn't. It's just the reporting that
bothers me. That's all just that little disclaimer would have
been worthwhile
over you. As for the president's continued push for the wall,
Pelosi said, and again, I quote, it's like a manhood thing for
him. As if manhood could ever be associated with him. For his
part. Border Security and wall funding is common sense. And a
political winner, even if wrapped around, but government
shutdown, Jeff,
okay, just remarkable. Matrix carrots. Right in the middle of
all of it today. Oh, my
goodness. just remarkable.
I got it. I saw of that for the end of the show, because I think
it would reflect on the show. Ooh,
that's a good one. Let me listen. just remarkable. I also
have one that I'll get to later. That's definitely a contender.
For sure. Now, let's go to the BBC significantly shorter, but
you kind of get their slant on it.
Pleasure. And of course, we'll
bring you more on that breaking news from Stroudsburg. When we
have it now to American politics, where there was quite
a scene at the White House today. Democratic leaders, Nancy
Pelosi and Chuck Schumer went to the Oval Office to talk funding
for President Trump's border wall with Mexico. Mr. Trump has
threatened to shut down the government if he doesn't get the
money. And here's what happened as the cameras were rolling.
Yes, I do. And we need border security. Nancy. Nancy, we need
border
security with called 20 times to shut down the government. You
say I want to shut down the government? We don't. When the
President brags that he won North Dakota and Indiana. He's
in real trouble.
Please don't characterize the strength that I bring to this
consequences. Mr. President, I am proud
to shut down the government for border security, Chuck. Well,
now,
while you heard Chuck Schumer say their elections have
consequences. And if that scene is anything to go by once
Democrats control the House in January, it will be a bumpy
ride. So Mr. Trump's hunt for a new chief of staff is
so there you go.
That was kinda lame.
While they were they just did a whole bunch of context. Now.
They put a whole bunch of Pelosi and Schumer, you know, clips,
edit those all together. And then and then had him say, Oh,
I'm gonna do the shutdown. So thanks, PBC. And of course, they
should look in their own music question.
Well, here's the question I have for that meeting. With Pelosi
and Schumer there. I mean, these guys are a couple. I mean, they
go on with a tinkling, and the guy's not a man and all the rest
of it, but why does it one of the two of them is so simple.
Say why should we be funding the wall? You said Mexico is gonna
pay for it? Somebody should have just said that guy and see what
he did. I agree. But you said what are we going to do? We're
going to build a wall who's going to pay for it Mexico, I've
heard you say that. I've heard it in your in your in your got
meetings meet ups? why don't why is that Mexico is going to pay
for why we pay the nickel?
Yeah, no.
Because that because that's clearly not the issue. I mean,
what he's talking about what I've heard is $5 billion, which
is a rounding error. In the stupid crap we do. Look at the
farm bill. Did you see the farm bill is just passed 860 billion.
Yeah. $860 billion Farm Bill, not a peep just for subsidies.
Yep, subsidies, all kinds of interesting stuff. Now, you can
be part of an ongoing farm operation. If you're a second
cousin, there's all kinds of weird stuff in there. So you can
get compensated as the commodities compensation, it's
huge. Not a peep anywhere, not a peep. But I have a solution to
this. Because the way I saw it,
I saw
two sides wanting border security one wanting a wall and
one being okay with the fence. I mean, that's kind of where it's
at. Right? Now we're down to the some would say semantics, but
others would say it's a different structure. And the
wall is very scary. And you know, shows that we are afraid
of brown people or whatever I've heard all week long. And the
other one is kind of friendly. You know, it's just a fence. So
here's a simple solution,
or defense. electrify the fence.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. That's, that's the way to
go. electrify the electrified fence. You're dead.
Yeah, or, you know, tasered, basically a taser fence. Not one
of
those chops your hands
it's just an idea.
I mean, it's not much worse than that razor wire that I see. I
mean, that's that's pretty nasty as of now you would do would
have a different issue trying to get through it anyway. It's the
whole thing is stupid. I don't think it's gonna work. I don't
think you'll get it done. I don't think there'll be any
funding of any wall before the end of the year. Well,
he has the possibility of letting the whole thing slide
until next year and then just using a chunk of the military
budget. He gave him an extra like 16 billion I think is I
think he's I think that's
that's the slush fund take it out of the he said that it were
they do it through you or through the military. Yeah. So
the Army Corps of Engineers I think is the way to do that then
Yeah, probably. Yeah. Under the BUILD THE WALL Okay. Well,
I don't the whole thing is shit. And it's a good exercise. I like
what happened in British Parliament though as as the
Brexit deal is in the the arguments just make everyone
nuts over there. One member of parliament took it a bit far
sending in questions. PCOS is the hashtag. Here's one coming
in from a BBC News Channel viewer saying what happened with
the mace in Parliament? Well, I can help you out with that one,
a Labour MP. Lloyd Russell more or less been ordered out of the
House of Commons for the rest of the day. After he removed the
mace you can see him holding there. In protest the
government's decision to delay the vote for the mace is a
ceremonial club which represents royal authority. If it's
removed, the commons cannot debate or pass laws. After Mr.
Russell Moyle took the mace. He walked towards the main doors in
the commons chamber he was stopped by commas officials who
took the mace off him and returned it, as you can see to
its place in front of the speaker's chair but he was
politely asked to vacate for the rest of the day.
The mace the sacred Illuminati stick with whatever that thing
is. The actual audio was much funnier of the speaker of
parliament he was he's like going oh, what's going on here?
Just I'm grateful to the I just think the whole thing is funny.
We should have more of that here. That's why I liked with
Trump and Pelosi issue
that maze had to be there. It has you can't
Yeah, oh yeah, it has power that so of course, you know, church
and state and everything and the Queen, it's all separate. But
the way it works is that you know the royal family the queen
is represented by the mace. And so that is her seal of approval
that you can that you can discuss. You can't even discuss
without the mace present. But when it says but when the queen
is in Parliament and the mace is removed, so there can be no
governing so she can't interfere with anything.
Something like that.
It's interesting, these old, these old traditions, just a
damn stick I thought it'd be a lot heavier to guy picked it up
like was just balsa wood. Maybe it's made of balsa wood. which
is a replica? Man. All right, I got one more popular item then
we can drill into stuff. I'm actually a little surprised. Did
you mean you know that I, I wanted the sports fan and, and
obviously, Steph Curry my brother from another mother went
out on a limb and said he did not believe that we'd landed on
the moon which makes two curries out of 1000s
I think maybe all the curries,
pretty much all the curries are now saying we are now saying
this. And then I think NASA said Oh, you don't believe that come
over here. We'll show you our moon rocks. And but I got the
biggest kick out of how far this was taken by my buddies over
there at the PTI podcast, which I listened to all the time. You
ever listened to PTI, the guys at PTI PTI, do you listen to
PTI? I
like PT I've always liked it. It stands for pardon the
interruption. You probably don't know.
I guess I do. I can see it right here on the ELMO mark.
Okay, I clip this myself, I'll have you know, this is the rest
of you. Okay, I'm not gonna go into this. Just go ahead and
play your little game, ridiculing the sports fans out
there who are more serious about things than you are up here. I'm
guessing
yesterday we mentioned that Steph Curry did not believe that
men had ever landed on the moon. I said I thought this had
by the way, if this is the club you want to hang out with with
the rest of the sports fans. I don't need to belong to be
a lighthearted homage to Kyrie Irving saying the Earth was flat
but it appears curry actually believes this. He said so on the
winging it podcast hosted by fellow NBA players Vince Carter
and conveys more well on his questioning the moon landing a
bad look for Steph Curry has a bad look for everybody. It's not
just of Korean. I'm gonna say this. Let me start by saying if
this is a joke, and they're just trolling people, because I
believe Korea is doing that I feel certain that he's doing
that. And I think step two and let me just say the three people
who have taken up this call in the last 48 hours. Mark spears
of this network in this company. Steph Curry and Jalen Rose.
These people are my friends. I know them well. Well, I'm with
them their discussions all the time. I know their intellects.
Don't do this. Don't come out and say we saw these pictures
are kind of grainy that black and white happen before I was
born. Because does that mean you don't believe in slavery? Does
that mean you're in the Revolutionary War did not happen
because it didn't happen to us. Don't do this. You guys are too
smart. Don't do is supposed to be are you saying Jay? Jay, when
I listen to you today, these guys, if you are as real oak as
you say if you are as technologically savvy as you
appear to be, don't do this. This is a very saying I don't
believe in history history. Hell with history because it didn't
happen while I was looking at my cell phone watch a very small
step to becoming a Holocaust denier. So I'm gonna say this
and I'm gonna say this both two steps.
It goes on and on. Racist. Don't believe in slavery. Holocaust
denier. This is fantastic. What's wrong with the sports
people?
That's pretty standard sports.
Here's the Iso I pulled. Don't
do this. But that was kind of nice, too. Negative though. Oh,
I'm sorry. minus positive.
Okay. Right. We'll end the show on a high note.
Yeah, yes, we always do. You got it. You got it. All right. I
think the
See you want to start somewhere specifically.
You Well, let's go to the climate change if you want to.
Okay, we'll take it right into the to the young kids with the
green New Deal. Hit me what you got?
Well, let's start off. First of all, there's this rage in the
climate circles. Who is the climate girl? Little 15 year old
got involved with climate change when she was nine because she's
so knowledgeable about it. So they of course, all these Amy
Goodman. Everybody's picked up on this woman girl. Yeah. And
I'm not I'm not familiar. I'm not familiar with this is this.
This is a meme that I've missed
it too. This is what well, if you were the climate if you were
if you knew anything about climate change, and you were a
big believer,
I would no
change. Alright, let's go with the intro that Greta that
climate change girl or the
climate activist who says politicians here are not doing
enough to turn back the clock and prevent catastrophic climate
change. 15 year old Greta Thun Berg. She has made international
headlines since launching a school strike against climate
change in her home country of Sweden. In September. She sat on
the steps of the parliament in Stockholm every school day for
three weeks leading up to the Swedish elections to demand that
politicians take more radical action to stop global warming.
After the election. She went back to school four days a week
but every four Friday connector continues to sit outside the
parliament building in protest. Her actions have inspired 1000s
of students across the globe to do the same. Greta Thun Berg has
Asperger Syndrome. She has focused with laser intensity on
climate change since she was nine years old. She brought her
message directly to world leaders here and cut a visa at
the UN Climate Summit last week. This is Greta addressing UN
Secretary General Antonio Guterres ish.
I think this is a mistake, though, I think they're making a
mistake with her. They need to get the people who aren't just
about a voting age, they're the ones that are most effective.
This is tugging on heartstrings, I don't think does it anymore.
I'm not gonna argue this. I think this whole thing is a
joke, but I'm only gonna play a piece of her little speech. But
she goes on and on and on and on. And I of course, are very
The thing about somebody that's 15 and is erudite, which he
seems to be is that you have to let her talk. So they let her
talk for I don't know, days.
It does seem to be a problem. Yes, I agree. I have similar
issues.
Here you go, is that I will ask the people around the world to
realize that our political leaders have failed us, because
we are facing an existential threat.
Hold on a second. She's 15. Yeah, no, no, she's, she's a
midget. She's a little person. This is impossible. This is not
a 15 year old.
And there's no time to continue down this road of madness. Rich
countries like Sweden, need to start reducing emissions by at
least 15% Every year, to stay below a two degree warming
target. If you were seeing the media, and every one of our
leaders will be talking about nothing else, but didn't ever
even mention it. Notice, hardly anyone ever mentioned that we
are in the midst of the sixth mass extinction, with up to 200
species going extinct every single day.
Child abuse,
child abuse that's involved, but she's got every single meal,
every metric every every little thing she's got in there, of
course. Yeah. Ah, okay. Then I will play you now. You're so
right about these kids that they go on and on and on and on. And
I've been tracking the sunrise movement. And this is the group
that protested against Nancy Pelosi, his office. Yeah, well,
on the hill.
There are photos from that protest in the last newsletter.
That
was actually the next day. That was the protest in in
California. They were in Washington DC the day before,
and they lined the halls and they were getting arrested. And
then they did the same thing with their office and in San
Francisco, San Francisco.
Yeah, it was Pelosi, why is she the target? She's like, on their
side?
No, she's not. You see, the thing is, she created the first
select committee for the green New Deal in 2007, in
anticipation of Van Jones and Barack Obama, who then couldn't
get it off the ground, mainly because Van Jones got kicked out
as a 911 truther, which he won't admit to anymore. And so that
kind of fell by the wayside. But it also did not have any power
to draft legislation. That's why they're saying this is
different. And of course, I'm seeing the signs. I'm seeing
professional signs. Oh, yeah, this can't come. This can't
come. They're very nice. Yellow is the right idea. They end
their logo is very good. Yeah, that upside down kind of? Yeah,
it's I don't know it's sleep. It feels like mind control. When
you look at like I'm going into the logo now. So I looked into
who this sunrise movement is. And they are a, they do have a
990 they are nonprofit, with very little money. I'm talking
like $70,000 that just for this just filed. This is brand new,
as I did some digging, particularly their address 50 F
Street Northwest suite 700 in Washington DC, you wouldn't be
surprised to find out that there's a number of climate
based organizations at that address. And the one in
particular of interest is the US Climate Action Network. And the
way I read it, although the paperwork is maybe not
officially filed properly, the climate action network now they
have a lot of money. They do about $12 million a year, and
it's been increasing with several million each year over
the past five days. It appears that the sunrise sunrise
movement Education Fund has taken over the US Climate Action
Network whose initial funding came from
you guessed it. George Soros, the
Open Society Institute, yes, of course. So of course, of course,
that's where the money comes from. Two co founders. We heard
from Varshini Prakash on the last last time we played some
clips when she was on The Young Turks. The kid who interests me
the most it very reminiscent of David Hogg from the the Parkland
Shooting School is another co founder of the sunrise movement.
And that's Jeremy Ornstein. And I think he's just about 18 or
19. He was in the halls when they were protesting Pelosi, I
can't play the whole clip, because it's six minutes, and
the audio isn't all that great. But he goes into a story that he
tells off the cuff. Just, I mean, just ad hoc rolls it out.
Fantastically done. The kid is a real pro. The only problem is
His story is bullshit. And you can tell it right from the
beginning. So I'll play that part. Oh, by the way, of course,
they had to release this on YouTube with all kinds of
inspirational music.
My grandparents, they were hungry. They lost almost
everyone, friends and family killed in the Holocaust. But
they survived the war, and moved to Cincinnati, Ohio to start a
new life. I remember, one day I was maybe eight and my brother
was 10. And we were in my grandparents apartment. And I
remember my brother Nicholas, secretly taking a copy of my
grandmother's Holocaust memoirs, and going into the bathroom to
read it. And I remember my parents, finding him and
bringing him out. And saying, both of us, you're too young.
You're gonna, you're gonna have to wait a few years. But I
remember thinking, my brother shouldn't have broken those
rules. And also remember asking myself, when will I be old
enough to read the stories. And it was just a few years later,
when my parents let me follow my brother into the temple
Auditorium, where there was a presentation on the Holocaust. I
remember how mature I felt, you know, my head was up, my
shoulders were back and I was full of resolve. Because you
have to be full of assault. When you're grappling with something
so serious when you're dealing with the past. That's so
painful.
I mean, I could just go on and on with this kid. I mean, it's
rarely any wraps it up. He does see I mean, I'll just I'll just
go to a little further because you really get snaps and
everything from the kids in the hallway. No applause just snaps
about fixing these problems. Because we have a tort bullets
and storms and fires, because we've had to throw up one too
many times. Speaker Pelosi Democratic leadership. We are
asking you to grow up. When will you?
Actually Applause So I'm not so sure that his mom from wherever
she from Hungary Hungary I'm not so sure she wrote her notes in
English that his brother could find when he was eight years
old. Maybe she wrote it in English.
Doubtful. That sounds like a
crock. Which could be it could be that her mother wrote a book.
That's also possible. If that was Grandma Grandma. Yeah,
grandmother. Yeah. It could be that she wrote a book. I don't
know. But this kid is good. ORNSTEIN is his name. Oh, look
at this. And Orenstein Professor Emeritus of child psychology.
Oh, okay. And she has she. She writes about the Holocaust.
Maybe that's her. Maybe it's the book to talking about? Yeah,
well, maybe she psychologize her grandson. But man this watch out
for this kid. If they get a hold of him. He'll he'll be
everyone's a
bit. One hinged of style. I'm not.
I said just like David Hogg. He'll go he'll go and his
name was less me heard his name. That's what
I'm saying. He'll go he'll go. He go. He burned out. I'm just
pointing it out. Trudeau in a big way, man. Is
this back off?
I'm still in the I'm still in. In the green New Deal. Okay, but
before he leaves this kid, I don't understand how they're
associating the Holocaust. With climate change, don't you think
that's something of a bit or
No, no, no, John? No. Because if you listen to the whole thing,
and I played a little bit of it there. These kids are growing up
believing that the world is on fire. It's on flood, it's on
earthquake, it's on everything. They're all going to die. Their
schools are being shot up. Also climate change. They're
traumatized. They're traumatized. Yes. Keeble. He
equates this to the Holocaust where kids were also
these kids, not us. No,
I know. But this is what you get when the child abuse is
complete. These kids are very serious. I don't know if they'll
be taken seriously by the Democrats who they seem to be
wanting to partner with. But yeah, this this they really
believe it's sad. I find this incredibly
sad. Now, now Trudeau
he was interviewed CCBC. And he was interviewed about the carbon
tax, which is, just like in France, although the riots
haven't started yet is quite an issue with the provinces. They
want to have none of it, you've got four
provinces who have not complied with the carbon tax. Now you're
imposing it on them. Is it harder to sell the carbon tax
when you have premiers saying that it is the wrong thing to
do?
I think I think the fact that there are a bunch of
conservatives out there who have decided that pollution should be
free, is not that difficult to counter we're putting
gotta love the pollution meme, don't yet now just just just
pollution, a price
on pollution, because we want less pollution. And the fact
that conservatives in this country don't want to move
forward on either fighting climate change, or helping
people ensure that we can get the good jobs in the future, is
a conversation I'm willing to have anytime what we're doing
with the climate action incentive, is making sure that
that family that will have extra costs because of putting a price
on pollution will be more than equivalently compensated for it
and what is your hope in terms of how those people change their
behavior? And do you have a sense of how quickly that would
happen?
Well, I think we know that when you put a price on something you
don't want, like pollution attacks, we're putting a price
on pollution, right?
Could you say price on pollution one more time, just so we know
it's pollution.
But okay, we're making sure watch, actually that the money
is going straight back to the jurisdiction, this isn't going
into federal coffers, this isn't something we're going to spend
on something else, we're actually giving that money back
to citizens in the province in which it was raised. Because we
know that if you make pollution free, people are going to get
out more of it. We say no, if you want to pollute, there
should be a cost associated.
I'm just blown away by the fact that this interviewer lets them
get away with
the word pollution.
It's co co2 is carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, which has now
just been boiled down to pollution. Do
so if we got rid of all carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, that
would be a plus, because we'd have no more pollution.
Yeah, no more, no more trees. And eventually no more trees,
we'd all
die. Because trees to be fed but trying to kill us. But
this is why people and certainly young people are are very
nervous and don't feel so good about the climate change. Now,
of course, she does ask the question about France compared
to what's happening there compared to Scandinavia, what
could go wrong? Could anything going wrong? What do you think
about your buddy my call eight resaw?
Political I think he's a political ally of yours. And
anyone that call face this very question over the past couple of
weeks, he put a surtax on fuel riots in the street, and he had
to back down. What What lesson did you learn from watching
that?
Well, he didn't ensure that the second part of it, you put a
price on pollution because we want less pollution. But you
also make sure that ordinary Canadians are going to be able
to be to afford this this transition towards a lower
carbon economy. So it's the rebates that makes the
difference, the rebate, the support for families, and making
sure that we are supporting families through this transition
time is a fundamental responsibility for every
government. And yet,
the United Nations says that most of the large emitting
countries, including Canada, are not on track to meet Paris
targets, they are calling for more urgency. So how do you
respond in the face of that? Do you speed up what you're doing,
you've changed.
Actually, a lot of countries around the world are looking
with a lot of interest at how Canada is moving forward on
putting a price on pollution. Supporting ordinary citizens
through this transition, it is a model that is going to set us on
a path to reach our Paris targets we are going to be
UN says now the UN says it's not going to happen we are going to
be able to reach those commitments.
By by having having a price on pollution. People will look for
ways to innovate, to pollute less that will effectively
reduce our climate change emissions and improve so you
will reach the Paris we're gonna reach reach our Paris targets.
What could possibly go
wrong? Well,
the more donations from the Canadians. Yes.
Let me see. Yes, sir. Just following up on that yellow
jackets before the shooting in Strasbourg, which is still a
part of France. There were all kinds of reports about the
police using incapacitating liquid on the protesters. As a
secret weapon they Say, where was this? Well, this is
published in Mariana in French publication yellow vest Saturday
in Paris police had a secret weapon. And they only use that
as last resort, a supply of incapacitating liquid
water cannons. I don't know, how would you do it? How would you?
How would you get it? I mean, this like Mace is an
incapacitating liquid.
So maybe that's what they're talking about. But following the
publication of Article The National gendarmerie wish to
specify the device of which we report existence to his elite
Oh, it's
a powder. Ah, it's a powder. We got to find out somewhat one of
our
our I was probably one of those like, like a tear gas,
probably, yeah, tear gas like product, not fun. Most like,
Well, my last global warming thing is the Arctic warming
report, which is on Democracy Now.
Scientists have issued a new warning on warming. A report
released this week finds the Arctic has been warmer over the
last five years than at any time since 1900. The year record
keeping began, the region is warming at twice the rate of the
rest of
the planet. You'd think that
you're going to be making all these prognostications about the
next few 100 years that you would go back for the 1900.
You think there
might be something there that she wasn't mentioning? Is that
what you're saying? Yeah.
Thinking that you think?
Yeah.
At one point, Greenland was green, green. Now that's why
it's called Greenland. But well, this isn't. That's not the way
they should play the school. They've had. But the problem is,
of course, underneath all that snow, there's evidence that it
was like a wooded area. Very problematic. The way they played
it in school when I was a kid was Leif Erickson's escaping,
you know, as the last of the Vikings trying to get out of
Norway. Or that whole North Nordic area, because he was the
hammer was brought down on these guys, because there were bad
actors. And they were chasing them down. So they went to they,
they told everybody, they they're the ones who named it
Greenland. And then Iceland was named, because it was actually
kind of green. And it was to be the sucker.
It really is. Is that the way it is that the way it's taught kind
of
bullcrap that I was taught, it was a sucker that dummies from
the Nordic countries to chasing Elite version because he's
obviously not gonna go to ice land because it's ice.
There was a distraction. Green was a misdirection,
misdirection, early example of misdirection. That's great. And
so it was Vikings, man. So I'm thinking oh, yeah, maybe.
I didn't know that. That's
pretty good.
It's very funny. I did for some reason. That's that that stuck
with me along with the one. And it was when you're a little kid,
for any little kid will do this. When they first look at the
Globe. They will look at South America and Africa. And you look
at it you go, hey, those two pieces.
Yes. Oh, you can't say that.
Before the International Geophysical Year where they
determined this thing called plate tectonics, which were
moving these these areas apart. It was always no, it's just a
coincidence. Don't even say something like that. It was a
coincidence that they looked like they are hooked together.
So this is all bull crap word for fed. So we were supposed to
now believe the global warming.
That reminds me when I when I entered the Dutch schooling
system, I was going to the International School of
Amsterdam for three years after we moved there moved there when
I was seven. And just to give you the full context of the
story, we had a week off from the ISA International School of
Amsterdam. And my parents sat me my sisters down Sunday evening,
guess what you guys are going to do tomorrow. We're like, well,
what are we going to do? Going to Dutch school? Like what and I
actually wrote really spoke just a few words of Dutch. So entered
Dutch school, fifth grade. And within I think, like two or
three months into this into the, into the school year, the
teacher, he says, Oh, here's a question that our Americans
didn't know. This is a time when Americans were not very loved in
in Europe, Texas Instruments was coming over and I walk on the
street, they know who I was, and the kids were like, you crazy
American should go fuck yourself. I mean, that's what I
would get as a fifth grader. And then the teacher says, All
right, here's one how many. How many states of the United States
of America have my hand goes up? Of course. Is it 50 states is it
52 You forgot Alaska and Hawaii. I said no. No, no, it was 48.
And then we watch no no. Can you don't even know this and he just
was berating me. And I was, you know, I was already messed up.
And then I remember calling the American Embassy and recording
it on one of those little cassette recorders taking it
into school. And even that was a well, she was referencing an old
an old Encyclopedia Britannica. I could not get them to just
admit that he was wrong.
Yeah, there's elements of this in the educational system, and
it's really pathetic. Oh,
I watched the entire Sundar Pichai testimonial.
Please watch the whole thing because I only picked up a few.
I've watched it. I have one clip. I watched some of it. I
have what I thought was a good clip. But you probably have
now let's let's play I got a couple of clips. Very short
ones.
I just thought this was good because it played right into the
the 100,000. Apparently not even that much $50,000 That was spent
by the Russians on Facebook to swing the election. here's the
here's the amount that apparently Google picked up.
This is Nadler, who's the number one Trump hater is going there
who's already discussed getting Trump in getting Trump putting
Trump in jail. Although if anybody read my essay, and the
last newsletter, kiss of death essay,
will know that no one actually wants to put him in jail. That
would ruin the whole idea of
things. But listen to Nadler grilling this guy. And by the
way, a lot of people are critic condemning Nadler as being in
the pocket of Google because he gets so much money from
alphabet.
Now, according to media reports, Google found evidence that
Russian agents spend 1000s of dollars to purchase ads on his
advertising platforms, the span multiple Google products as part
of the agents, the Russian agents campaign to interfere in
the election two years ago. Additionally, Juniper Downes
Head of Global Policy for you testified in July, that YouTube
had identified and shut down multiple and shut down multiple
channels containing 1000s of videos associated with the
Russian misinformation campaign. Does Google now know the full
extent to which his online platforms are exploited by
Russian actors? In the election two years ago,
we have you know, we undertook a very thorough investigation. And
in 2016, we now know that there were two main ad accounts linked
to Russia, which, which, you know, advertised on Google for
about $4,700. In advertising. We also found other limited
$4,700. That's right.
Which was, you know, no amount is okay, here. But you know, but
we found limited activity improper activity. We learned a
lot from that. And we've, you know, dramatically increased the
productions we have around our election offerings, leading up
to the current elections we did, we again found limited activity,
both from the internet research agency in Russia, as well as
accounts linked to Iran.
And why What specific steps have you taken, including during the
recent 2018 elections to protect against further interference by
Russia or other hostile foreign powers,
we have undertaken significant review of how ads are bought,
you know, we look for the origin of these accounts. We share and
collaborate with law enforcement, other technology
companies, and we essentially are investing a lot of effort
and oversight in this area.
And looking ahead to the next Congress. I assume we can have
your assurances that Google will work with this committee, as we
examine the issue of how to better secure our elections from
future foreign interference.
Congressman, protecting our elections is foundational to our
democracy. And you have my full commitment that we'll do that.
Yeah, blah, blah. Let
me tell you, I already 700 bucks, big deal. But I
watched this whole thing.
And
it is so embarrassing. And even the people who had a bit of a
clue, really display their ignorance, and just how idiotic
ly stupid they are. If not, because they really don't
understand how the series of tubes works. Because they don't
have the wherewithal to ask someone to make sure they don't
look like blathering morons, which they do. You can't take it
seriously. I mean, there's stuff in there like, well, if I'm
here, and I'm over there, does Google know. You know, like,
what? Unless you you leave it so wide open for HR to go? Well, I
don't know. It depends on your phone. Depends on what apps you
have installed. I mean, there was just not nothing really
substantive. Well, there's one small thing that came out that
may be important, but it started off with pontificating as
Lofgren. You know, well, let's talk about search and how search
works. Hi.
think it's important to talk about how search works. Right
now, if you Google, the word idiot, under images, a picture
of Donald Trump comes up biased, biased, I totally how would that
happen? How does search work? So that that would occur.
We provide search today, for any time you type in a keyword. We,
as Google, we have crawled, we've gone out and crawled and
told billion copies of billions of web pages he
says stored, but it almost sounds like stoled. And I just
wanted like, believe that's what he's thinking in his mind, I
stoled, all that
in our index. And we take the keyword and match it against the
pages, and rank them based on our 200 signals, things like
relevance, freshness, popularity, how other people are
using it. And based on that, you know, at any given time, we try
to rank and find the best results for that query. And then
we evaluate them at external raters to make sure that and
they evaluated to objective guidelines. And that's how we
make sure the process is well,
it's not some little man sitting behind the curtain, figuring out
what we're going to show the user it's basically a
compilation of what users are generating and find to sort
through that information.
I think she's on the payroll too.
Yeah, don't worry, it's not some little man who's who's putting
in the he conveniently omit the idea that the search results are
also tailored to you, as a as an individual. And moreover, you
your location, like I, someone was talking about that, and I
did the experiment yesterday, we do a search query. And then you
actually do it with two different browsers just to make
it kind of fair, and then flip on the VPN, do the exact same
search query from like California and you get very
different results strike gun control as an example, it's very
different.
Not favorite thing is whatever VPN area you're coming from
changes like a woman in Vancouver, who wants to meet me.
And she's also in Berkeley. No way, the
same woman? Is she hot? Yeah. I can't believe this. What are the
chances? Onward. Number two, this, I think, is something
where Google can get caught up. And I this is good, good latte,
which is named Goodlatte. Goodlatte,
you spell a good, good latte. He's in LA,
he's a good latte, too good. Latte. berthing is the chairman.
He has asked a question about the advertising rates for
politicians. And what you have to know is that I think it's
law. Correct me if I'm wrong, when you when you buy television
media, for a political campaign, the seller, I believe is
obligated to give you the cheapest rate and the same cheap
rate that everybody else gets.
Have you been familiar with this?
I'm not familiar with it being law. But it would make sense.
Could two competing political candidates targeting the same
audience see different ad rates? And if yes, could that disparity
be substantial?
There wouldn't be a difference based on, you know, any
political reasons, unless there are keywords, which are of
particular interest in the market determines it. So it's
essentially a supply demand equilibrium. It can lead to
difference in rates, but it will vary from time to time.
Can those rates be very substantial in difference?
There could be occasions where, yes, there could be a difference
in rates? Yeah, I haven't looked at the specifics of it yet. But
it's decided by the system. And it's a process we have done for
over 20 years. And let me assure you anything to do with our
civic process. We make sure we do so in a nonpartisan way. And
it's really important for us, I think,
I think he's gonna run into some some headwinds there. Because
they're all gonna say, Well, wait a minute, how do you
determine the price for this campaign or my campaign? And
these people are so clueless in Congress? Because of course,
it's very difficult to get that ad rate the same as television
because it's apples and oranges. But I think this is going to
make an issue about that. Now, China, the question about China
was of course asked by our own Sheila Jackson Lee. And as you
know, she's representative for Houston has a great relationship
with China as always talking about China and oh, yeah, we've
the port and we love China goes to China goes goes on special
little, little trips to junkets make sure our bond of friendship
and cooperation with China is strong. She loves China. So
she's the one to ask about
China. I am concerned that you are now going back into China
and upholding the dragonfly procedures which would help
censor Chinese persons seeking a lifeline of democracy and
freedom
Congressman adults right now we have no plans to
I liked how he said congressman to everybody including the
Congress women. I don't know if that was on purpose, but he kept
doing it are Chrissy
and freedom
Congressman outside right now we have no plans to launch in China
we don't have a search product there. Our core mission is to
provide users access to information and getting access
to information is an important human rights. So we are always
compelled across the world to try hard to provide that
information. I'm committed to being fully transparent,
including with policymakers to the extent we ever develop plans
to do that.
No Sounds like she asked the right question he gave the right
answer nothing going on in
information as a human right.
Yes, of course. It's human right John? Which is how they get
some information right now. What would you like I can give it to
you started working I'm gonna make a list. Okay.
You're human rights to do so. They did have one Gotcha.
My human right is not to want access to information. My human
right according to him is act is he's got access.
Oh, huge difference.
Yeah, I think they have a got him on this. This was this was
the only real bias question, which is what this was really
about. This was all about bias. No one understood an algorithm
no one and three and a half hours of just pure drivel. Yeah,
it was bad. This Jim Jordan. He had the, I guess, kind of
smoking gun to show that Google through their own wording, which
charges denied and denied and denied the had specifically done
some work to help out a political party during the
midterm elections. Here's the clip.
Mr. Pichai. In your opening statement. You said I lead this
company without political bias and work to ensure that our
products operate that way. Ileana Murillo is Google's head
of multicultural marketing. Does Miss Marilla do good work?
I'm not directly familiar with her work, but she's an employee
of Google and you know, we are proud of our employees
are you praised her work the day after the 2016 election in a
four page email she wrote about her work with the Latino vote.
She said even Sundar gave our effort a shout out is she
referring to you there?
She was referring to my communication around translation
for different related effort.
Okay, well, I'm gonna look at two other sentences. She had
that long email again, recapping her work in the 2016 election.
With the Latino vote. She said this we push to get out the
Latino vote. With our features a few lines down in her email, she
qualified that sentence. And she said we push to get out the
Latino vote with our features in key states. And she specifically
cites the states Florida and Nevada. Near the end of her
email. In a similar sense. She says we supported partners like
Voto Latino to pay for rides to the polls in key states. With
me, I want to kind of analyze those two sentences we push to
get out the Latino vote with our features in key states. We
supported partners like Voto Latino to pay for rides to the
polls in key states. Is it fair to say that we in both
sentences, Mr. Pichai refers to Google.
Congressman, we we are very concerned whenever there are
allegations like that we our team looked
at us with that question. I'm asked is it fair to say that we
in both sentences refers to the company Google
as Google, we wouldn't participate in any partisan
efforts around any civic process. So okay, I don't think
so. So
this is so we pushed, and we supported partners like Voto
Latino to pay for rides and polls in key states and we push
to get out the Latino vote during the 2016 election. And
how were they getting that done? They were getting that done by
according to miss Morello, your head of multicultural marketing,
by altering your features or configuring your features in
such a way and for paying for rides for people to get to the
polls.
Not that any of that is illegal, mind you. But it was odd that
precharge just kept denying it went on for minutes Nah, no, no,
do not no, we would never do anything by us like that. We
would but to have the email saying you did it. And it's like
just admitted. What difference does it make? It's not illegal?
No, it's not. But it is biased, which is what they're trying
which
is what Yeah, and it just it just went nowhere. It really
went nowhere. I just one one last clip that kind of moves
into it an interesting story. This is about the content
flagging.
We discussed this I raised the case of the Alliance Defending
freedoms content being removed moved after being reported by a
trusted flagger. On YouTube, the, the flagging organization
with a sub was the Southern Poverty Law Center, which has a
kind of an infamous reputation for being, I would say radical
left organization that opposes conservative viewpoints. What
criteria Does Google use when granting trusted flagger status
to third parties such as the SPLC.
Today, we first want to clarify one thing our trusted flaggers
don't remove content, they can flag content for us to review
and we review flag content. It's mostly used by law enforcement,
many, many nonprofit agencies in areas important areas like child
safety, terrorism and so on. Southern Poverty Law Center is a
trusted flagger people can register last week check they've
never flagged a single video on our platform. We have reached
out to a wide variety of organizations, including
conservative organizations, we will be happy to take your
suggestions to add you know organizations as trusted
flaggers.
Appreciate that we need a little objectivity in the reviewers and
I yield back gentleman.
Oh, geez. went nowhere. Yeah, but he actually that's like
believing that where, and this is the story I want to get to
big article in The Guardian about Snopes. Snopes is very
disappointed and angry. Journalists working as fact
checkers for Facebook in this case have pushed to end a
controversial media partnership with a social network saying the
company has ignored their concerns and failed to use their
expertise to combat misinformation. And this is
Brooke bin kowski. Managing former managing editor of Snopes
fact checking site that has partnered with Facebook for two
years. She says they're not taking anything seriously.
They're more interested in making themselves look good and
passing the buck. But they clearly don't care about
Facebook, Facebook in this case, but that's the same. It's the
same fact check network, the International fact checking
network that includes that works for Google and includes Snopes
and then the other side did Daily Caller Foundation. And
here's in black and white. They don't care. They really don't
give a crap about what you're doing with yours.
They don't Yeah.
And all those people shouldn't be living here where it's nice
and cheap for them.
Yeah, well,
I think Facebook She just moved to Austin. No, no, no, no, no,
keep it right where it is. But with that, I would like to thank
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people finally dug around, they find it in the promotions box.
And it was nice. It was an essay which you and I always laugh
about. So whenever you write down, you sit down and write an
essay. It usually results in much lower donations.
Yes, the donations go way down.
And you know, are you now considering still doing them?
Because you kind of said in your follow up that it appears
Doom anymore? What is the point? You know, everybody hates them?
Well, here's the here's what I wanted to jump in on you said it
appears the audience that will be our producers who received
the newsletter that actually just want animated GIFs
they love the animated GIF.
Do you think that this is the way we should go? I mean is is
there animated? I mean, I know the answer to this because we
always take the low the low road when we can the low road always,
always worse. It just so sad when people say don't give us a
newsletter with some content and you do it and just
TA and yes, this is what the problem
is because they people really just want animated GIFs that's
the bottom line and we're being honest with you. This is what
you respond to.
But this apparently was some delivery issues. I don't know
why that doesn't make any sense but I've been thinking there's
been some changes in the algos. To the promotions by somebody
suggested that if you don't open the newsletter for about he says
he noticed this oh then Google makes a decision for you. Yeah,
he says that he used to always open the newsletter Open open
open then for some reason or he skipped three of them right and
he says and ever since after that has been showing up and
promotions no matter what he does, which is the thing that
bothers me the most is the comment that everybody makes us
no matter what I do it shows whitelisted I bitch about it
being in the wrong box and all the rest of it of course I do
what I do just discard the promotions box and just
eliminate its existing somehow
within just to be semi technical, I believe somewhere
in Google's system. When you say okay, I want to whitelist this.
It's probably I mean these things do come out from weird
reply tos and MailChimp does certain things that may not be
the same every time in the headers.
I think MailChimp is partly to blame for some of this. I don't
know that they're doing enough. I mean I bitched about this a
few weeks ago similar situation. And I got a note from MailChimp
and they've said this bull crap and they're
pretty so good. Hey, shut up DeVore Acker. You want to be
deep platformed
Yeah, I'm not worried about that but it's just the it's just I
wonder how much of the system itself because you know, the
people have looked into and MailChimp comes in with some
very weird headers and they and all the this is a problem. I
don't know how Google can rationalize this but every link
in a newsletter like this actually goes through MailChimp.
So when I link to the Pay Pal account, it's actually going
through MailChimp past that. And so it goes to MailChimp and then
it gets forwarded to the Pay Pal so MailChimp can do a count.
Like you I'm gonna write a little giblet about some
I'm I don't think it's mailed. shampoo. I mean, this is
ultimately is Google. I mean, I get all the newsletters all the
time. Of course, everyone my own email server don't use Google.
Yeah. So it's clearly Google making decisions for you have,
this should be enough. It's a newsletter it's somebody
subscribed to, which is the case with this mailing list. They
should all go through, they shouldn't end up in promotions
or in spam or anything else. If Google is doing its job, I think
they do a very piss poor job with their email.
No, they're doing exactly what they want to do, if you don't
want to be. This promotions tab is also very interesting. You
get into the promotions tab, you can also pay to be at the top of
the promotions tab. It's an advertiser spot now
in Gmail, Oh, yeah.
Why people used to be on Gmail was beyond me. Anyway, let's
thank some people who kindly
came today and no doubt saying, hey, you know, we got it. We had
a fail. And so everybody, you know, a lot of people that
normally wait for that. They seem to wait for the second No,
hey, man,
where's my GIFs? Oh, shit.
And so then they contribute, which I find is be, you know,
it's fine. I like it, because at least it shows that we are
people are still following the show. And they liked the show.
And so they will contribute. So we have a large list of
executive producers today. Up from one.
Well, so it worked your evil plan work. Devorah. Good work,
right
actually, actually is up from probably two because we have one
that came in through mail through the mail, which was of
course your animus of
Dogpatch. And last night, yes, he's back. How was he doing?
Well, it gave us a $1,077. So that's he's doing well, Holy,
moly. But
go to Reno is very short to paragraphs. Oh, that's like, oh,
here it goes.
Keeping up with this world is difficult. So even when I'm a
day or two behind you to keep me in front and often are from the
future. Thank you. I hope to have some insight when I finally
stopped traveling. But as of now, my observation is rose
colored glasses are about to get a punch in the nose. I smell
real shit around the corner. And not just in John Adams poop
capitals.
Hey, we don't have the poop. Well, actually, we were we
didn't start in here. But
yes. Happy Hannukah to to all n j and k. Wow.
So I'm thinking he's probably thinking there's crap going down
the Middle East.
Or somewhere.
But he did say he were telling us
he's ever sent without a bunch of why you should be donating to
the show. There's none of that in here. It's just that he just
thinks that something bad's gonna happen whether it's it
could be economic. It could be Middle East he travels a lot and
he goes to the Middle East. Yeah, and huh. Well, this
is very concerning. Something now is there something about the
number the 1077 Is there something we should be reading
into that?
I would think maybe there's got to be some code that we're not
seeing our it's not our show numbers. So 1094
Yeah, this guy is such a puzzle. Thing is one of the only
producers we really really known executive producers we really
know nothing about
No, but we have a lot of indicators and hints. Well, he
does travel a lot is why he's traveling so much. We don't know
that. But he's seems to be on top of a lot of things.
Oh, and J and K No jingles no karma. I will respect his
wishes. But thank you very much, sir. animus of Dogpatch and
Loris LeBeau view we look forward to your next
communication.
And this is also yeah, there's other issues. I'll leave that
out. Anyway, onward to Craig Mozilla $334.34 I apologize for
the long note.
Which then got truncated gosh this is horrible. Let me see if
I have a copy of it somewhere
that's horrible. Start start your real funny
start my students so long I don't know why they can catenate
it or cut it off right there but they did
you're gonna read it
yeah. Oh yeah. Hold on. I was you I thought you were looking
for the note
I am but I had no luck so far.
Okay, let me hold on one second. I just was right in the middle
of enlarging the page with the zoom feature called in beginning
big and I apologize for a long note but it's important. If you
don't want to read it then I was simply asked for the most
powerful jobs calm you have for me. It's an easy pregnancy karma
for my wife Dame Janie we are expecting and then it ends.
This is horrible. In the eye. You should have sent it through
email. I have nothing on email from him but it sounds like like
they are expecting a new human resource so we'll hand out jobs
karma you want a big one big heaping and with new human
resource karma and please let us know what the rest of your notes
that jobs,
jobs, jobs and jobs Let's vote for jobs
karma pregnancy karma to be specific. Oh, yes. You know what
I remember this note, I think, yeah. Was this and his wife is
continuously ill off is the same note I get a lot of notes get a
lot a lot and I know a lot of people's lives and I'm not sure
if this was the same one. So I'll Gigi ELA Yeah, I can't find
it. I've no idea where it is. Maybe that's not how his email
is, you know?
Yes. Yeah, the problem you know, it's got some screen name for
his email.
screwy name. Dammit. Screw it's really nice.
Anyways, 33334 Sir Roger boots. Mechanicsville, Iowa 333 33 Two
Roger boots here. It's been quite a while using an old link.
And the link still works. Apparently. Yeah. And that's all
he's got to say. Sure. Kevlar 333 33 from Smyrna, Georgia. He
says ITM I haven't could I have an Obama you might die to the
head and oh my god amazing please
yeah, we can do it too to the head and
the minute I know you might die first Yeah, I
got that LMG was amazing Yes, okay, here we go. And it karma
as well.
Yeah, sure. You might not. That is on
you've got karma. Yeah, nice.
Kepler sent me a note a separate note. Right after I said that
the second the text email out. Yeah. Pitching. It says hey,
hey, I was just about to cents. Just to set a donation. Thanks
for the reminder. It's quite funny. Well, time. Good one.
Nixle Nicholas blex. Rudd $333. ITM gents we've we're second
time donors longtime donors. It's been a while since our last
donation can we get a D douching? Yes, by request. I
think so.
You've been D deuced.
John, you're sad letter type that our heartstrings and our
purse strings. Thank you, to you and Adam for keeping us from
going Dateline on each other and Keeping Our Message marriage
strong. Oh, my husband hit me in the mouth during our move from
Portland to Austin a few years ago in our life.
Was this from? This is from Nicholas Beck's road? Well,
it's his wife writing the note. Oh, Anna and Nick Janna. Okay,
the first and my husband hit me in the mouth during our move
from Portland to Austin. Oh, she lives in Austin a few months ago
in Portland to Austin. Wow. Wow,
is that like a lateral move, man.
But it's a different kind of hipster. Yeah. Although our
lives haven't begun mostly meat eating hipsters in Austin.
Haven't been the same as Franklin's haven't been the same
since the first time I listened. I was shocked. Shocked by the
odd odd ball jingles. But then I grew to love you both recently.
We hit my mom in the mouth and she thinks you're all the
funniest pair. Hi, Mom. Hi, mom. Thanks for all you do John and
Adam love Anna and Nick. That will give them a
Karma as well. Thank you crazy kids. And we'll see you at the
meetup which is being planned as we speak
is Austin meetup
to Big Pharma. It's a big one.
All right, now we have another with a note list donation. Brian
Lawson. Now he gets sent an email in 333 minutes see what he
says sent to sorry, I've been overboard lately. Just pick 333
through PayPal Happy Holidays.
Is it okay, thank you very much. Happy holidays
you know, back to the now back to real news. Sir Chris spears
and ASO another Estonian
it's crazy down here.
It's crazy, crazy talk. By the way, you know they if you look
at the numbers on the mailing list, what do you think? What
state do you think has the most
no agenda people on it?
What state has the most no agenda people in it? Yeah.
In terms of the new mailing list of people that have actually
gotten that far, huh
I really have no idea.
Really no. California buy, buy, buy a lot.
No, it's also the biggest state. Well, what do you think second
then? New York.
Texas.
Really? It is it is second? Well, it's the same. It's backup
California. It's all the same thing. Yeah, we're California on
the bench here. So whenever you need us, we'll we'll pop in.
Coach. We're ready for you.
Yep. Chris beers in Austin 322. I hope this small bit of valley
for your Valley finds you well, as I look forward to my
celebrate my birthday tomorrow. I think he's on the list.
Appropriate to celebrate your commitment to putting out an
outstanding product with this contribution. I crossed the
threshold for barony no right. And find the territory of my
residents already claimed. In the interim. I demand my seed
man cow camera clip that was promised in the show notes a
while back.
You know anything about this? Well, I
know about the clip. I'm not sure. I mean, you're in charge
of the peerage committee. So I'm not sure what the territory that
he was. He was going I didn't I don't know knowledge of this.
Well, it has you need to know it. Chris. What he says here
called surrounding territorial claims within the peerage system
is ambiguous. Should I just claim Buenos Aires Well, that
was simplified.
That's the Baron of Buenos Aires. This is good. We're good
to go. My
god for 25 years. They've been growing babies in cow.
That's what he was looking for.
Thank you very much, sir. Chris. Steven Rincon with a check.
$320.32 from Frisco, Texas and all he put on the GDN send a
note I can't find an email. And he put four boobs with the
number four.
Maybe he wants boobs?
No, maybe the g8 Take the 808 times four you get 3320 32 Is
that what it sounds like to you? could play 808 times four could
be no could be nothing is what it is.
Okay, then there you go for time boobs, but why does he want for
boobs?
He just said for boobs he didn't say he wanted for boobs got it.
Kyle Blanc and Houston Texas $300.11. JC D the collection of
essays was brilliant. Wasn't a collection. It was one. Oh, he's
thinking of all of all of them. Yeah, yeah, I've done quite a
few and it could be turned into a giblet. In fact, I'm going to
do that. jumping in with an executive producer donation
because the shows of late have been outstanding. He just need
some karma.
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is in an ICU facing Bad Juju from lung disease. Media
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good like other listeners I especially like the Euro zone
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Let's say Euro land is what we call them here.
Euro zone actually only you know a euro zone actually refers
specifically to the countries within the EU that use the euro
as their currency. Right? So when you say Euro zone you're
not you're you're leaving out a lot of countries that's
that's Brexit man. As Brexit ties Brexit talk yeah,
I do not believe their center AI either. Laws are robust enough
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and it's a it's really worth it.
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they're they're stickers that resemble your camera on your
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it's covering the camera, but but it makes it look like
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I used to use gaffers tape, but I would use one of these. No,
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And Joshua is it sir Fox bat. Yes. And that will be our list
of executives She executive producers responsible for show
1094 Want to thank each and every one of them as we head
toward? Show 1100 which will be our first show of the year?
2019. And thank
you it really it that is the first show it is actually show
number 1100. Yep. Wow, that's a coincidence, I did not thank you
to our executive producers and Associate Executive Producers
really came through in an odd way, which didn't have to be
like this every time, but it's highly appreciated. And all of
these credits are ones that are recognized internationally.
Wherever you go, wherever people look at credits in the content
creation and production realm. You can use these and easily
say, Excuse me, I am an executive producer of the no
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will take their dresses off in a heartbeat. It will run at home
will be thanking more people later on $50 and above. And
please support us and remember us for the show on Sunday.
borak.org/in A That's
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propagate the formula. Our formula is this. We go out for
you people in the mouth shut out saying
I was thinking about
deep platforming over the weekend. Because it actually
works. For me, it works.
Well. When's the last time you saw anything on television? Mind
you about Milo.
Milo definitely get got sidelined. When's
the last time you heard anything on television?
About Alex Jones? Just recently?
Only because he showed up at the hearing. That's the only thing
you heard about him just recently. Yes, this is right.
And that's what made me think about it. Like this deep
platforming. I mean, I know how to listen to Alex Jones if I
want to, but he's not in my mind. At all. I don't don't
think about him anymore. Laura Loomer, who chained yourself to
Twitter's from shore in New York City.
She's been memorized herself. Yeah. But also,
I mean, what happens is and if you notice, by the way, these
people get the platform, the only ones that matter, and you
should pay attention. Now. I think I'm being protected in
hindsight, is those with a checkmark, the checkmarks I
believe that there is a tracking mechanism going on. It's very
unclear how these how these verified check marks work. I've
tried for years I gave up on it. And now I've always said I think
I'm kind of happy because it seems to be the mark of the
beast. But it really is. And they're tracking. Anyone who's a
journo in the school newspaper gets a verified checkmark. So
they are clearly tracking mainly news, and those who spread news
and who are influencers and you're one of them. You are a
columnist, a journalist and influencer and I without my
checkmark, I am your nothing you know, I'm a non playing
character. I'm an NPC, and I'm an NPC in the big game of
Twitter. Oh, NPC. I'm completely unimportant. No matter what I
do. I'll never go away because I'm an NPC, I'm just meant to
spin around you saving the day, then yes, it's a game with real
consequences. This is this is when you step back. It's like,
if you're not on Twitter, if you get d platformed. Mainly from
Twitter. You're gone. Your career is over Laura Loomer.
You're right. She lured herself. She's gone. She is just gone.
And somehow there's some big game and it interacts with the
mainstream media in the United States for sure. And if you got
to check mark, you basically have a target on you all the
time. You have to be very careful.
Well, I'm very careful. I
know you are I know you're but the even though, you know I
mean,
that's why we took the bullet thing from the art. We removed
it and use the other one.
Damn. We succumbed we succumb to the
nah there's certain things you just have to play there he has
yet to play by a certain set of rules we we get around most of
them because we have no advertisers telling us what to
do or nor no corporate guy Hey, you can't do that. We have to
self police. Yeah, we do. A weakened self police in favor of
our listeners and producers. Because it and I'm gonna say it.
At the end of the day. That particular piece of artwork
wasn't that important. No,
no, no, we make choices. It's actually let's just say an
advertising for moments that you brought that up. There's
something new is happening. Everyone's all all aflutter
about it because Finally, we're bringing spying to podcasts. I
could not be more proud everybody wait to go? Yes, we're
bringing more buying to podcasting. We're gonna we're
gonna spy on you like the big boys. This has been a project
mainly of NPR. And I follow all the podcast industry news. And
the big complaint about the bot advertising and podcast is
there's no way to track it. If someone just downloaded it, did
they listen to it? How much did they listen to download it? We
don't know if the message is getting out. So first, the
industry, the industry can with some agreements as to what a
download is which I question. But it's okay, at least it's an
agreement that's no better or worse than the Nielsen re
listen. But now they've gone completely stupid. And they
decided now we're going to make it so we can really track how
far in you're listening to this. And this falls under the
protocol rad it is now version three of RAD, which is remote
audio data being the data that you are giving remotely and the
way it works, Joe? Yeah, they have a framework, which is on
the GitHub, and this is, again, this is NPR and I think they
have they've implemented in their NPR one app,
where they're going to be highly disappointed.
That's one part of the stupidity of it all. But they also have
this idea that here's my framework, please put it into
your podcast player. So the industry as a whole can track
and see, because what you really need is two pieces, the
production, the mp3 itself in the ID three tags, where you put
in the title and the artwork. And oh, by the way, I, I noticed
that my recording software had defaulted back to only the
author who, who registered the program, I use Hindenburg. So
instead of Adam curry and Jhansi, Devorah could just sit
me I don't know how long it's been doing that, but someone
alerted me to that. But then you add a special little tracking
URL or multiple tracking URLs, so that when your player hits a
certain mark that you also have to put into the podcast, it'll
then hit that URL, and then it will say, hey, this, this guy
over here, listen to this point in this podcast. And I will send
you're going to hear the and this is what I why I pulled
these clips. This is the guy who's really on the
implementation side is not on the content creation side. And
he has says a lot of things he shouldn't he is not the guy to
communicate this because it sounds like you're just being
creepy and spying. And in fact, this what you're doing, and it's
going it as John said, it's this, you're going to be very
disappointed when you find out who's actually how many people
are actually listening. And to do you have the gall to say, we
won't know who you are when this takes place is just a lie of
epic proportions life addresses as you can figure it,
you'll know what phone you have. A lot of people know is comes
from phones. When you hide behind number.
Oh, yeah. But you know, it tells you what browser people are
using, or they're coming from
now. It'll give you your unique device ID because it's mainly a
phone. I mean, all this stuff is is just given to you through the
HTTP request itself. I'm paraphrasing, but believe me,
this is possible. Here he is Brian Moffitt of NPR explains.
So the challenge in the podcasting space over the last
decade is
the challenge in the podcasting space over the last decades
really wasn't dug on who's listening.
Okay, so the challenge in the podcasting space over the last
decade has been all of us have been circling around a better
definition of a download. And it's largely because most of the
places where people listen are not places that you know, we
control the distribution. So it's Apple podcasts is the
largest, and you've got a bunch of other apps.
Now listen to what he says something interesting about who
controls the distribution. And he views the podcast app as the
person or the entity that controls the distribution.
And I disagree. Why? Because they
don't control whether something is whether you can get it or
not. The if he's talking about what they promote? Sure, I'm
sure that lots of podcasts take, in fact, we'll talk about it
take money to promote certain podcast. So enhancing
distribution, yeah, but they don't control it. iTunes doesn't
host our file, just saying, you know, we
control the distribution. So it's Apple podcast is the
largest and you got a bunch of other apps that distribute our
content for free. And so all we know is that somebody requested
to
file and listen to how he's talking. He's talking about his
content, his NPRs content, not talking about anybody else, but
them and
we know if the bytes were delivered successfully to that
user, and that's kind of where we are With the IB and the
common definition, known as IB, v2, we can all speak the same
language about downloads. That's been great. It's, I think, a
huge step forward for the industry that we all have that
definition. But we know there's downloads that don't get played.
Now you got to do is look at your own behavior. There's so
much good stuff out there, that you don't quite get to
everything. We have good research that says people
listened to most of what they download. And that's been great.
But what we want to get at is a way to understand from all those
places where our podcasts are played, which files that were
downloaded, actually got listened to. And I think it's
really important to interject here, you know, we're not
worried about who listened to it, just worried that someone
was, because, you know, that's the information we don't have.
And that's all we're really looking to get it. Same things
we learned from NPR one, you know, what kind of engagement
are we getting with this content? Is it worth, you know,
the distribution deals we're making with all these different
platforms? Are people listening to what they download? Do you
hear that?
The deals we make with all these? NPR is apparently paying
podcast apps to highlight their content. Yeah, I didn't know
that. And there's only one now. But there's only a few of them
out there. There's not that many that are being used. As
he starts talking about this. We don't care who it is. I'm
thinking oh, okay, opening the door. It was what else are these
these? Click farms out in the Philippines and India? What you
know, they've been kind of busted recently. Let's give him
something else to do.
Oh, yeah. And it's just URLs, it's not that hard to replicate.
In fact, here's his technical pitch.
So in a quick overview, what we're talking about with remote
audio data is actually very, very simple. Inside those audio
files, which are typically mp3 is although it can be mp4 or
other formats. All we want to do is a little extra metadata that
tells where the important points in the file are. Where are the
quartile markers? Where's like the halfway point? For our
sponsors? Where was the sponsorship starting and ending
so that we could have the podcast playback platforms, when
listening happens at one of those points, just send us back
a little ping that says, listening happened at that
point. That's all we're asking for. It's hardly any data at
all. We're not asking for any user information or PII. It's
simply somebody listened at that point in that file. And that's,
that's the basic metric we're looking to get back.
Yeah, I'm very against this. I don't want anyone knowing what
I'm listening to. And you can tell me 100 times that we don't
know anything about you. That's bull crap. I don't want anyone
to know what podcasts I've listened to. I'm not going to
report that mark. Marco from Oh, we
already been embarrassed by the by the fact that Twitter outed
you as a Britney Spears follower. Exactly. God knows
what podcast but
listen, just so you know, she also follows me. So that's how
that came to be. She started following me and like okay,
Britt. No, I'll follow you back. Marco from overcast, which I
think is arguably the second most popular app is that he's
not going to implement it. And that does not seem to be even
the what is the app that NPR bought they bought Pocket Cast
they say it's not on their roadmap. So I don't know if this
is if this is really going to go anywhere. I sure hope not it's
this is not this is not the this is not right. For Podcasting.
Why who cares?
I not doing anything wrong with them just to make if they know
you're listening to the Britney Spears podcast.
It's the Taylor Swift podcast that I listened to not not
Britney No. Well that's different
All right. Well, I think that's that's it you don't know what
conclusions to make us up that you think is a bad idea? Well,
you kind of start to shut down so they never call you up.
Oh, why would they report so
that was the last time you were called by anyone to make some
one line comment because they take about 30 lines if they
steal one of them. One line comment about the whole scene
the whole podcasting scene, which happens to be hot right
now.
I cannot remember Yeah, cuz it's been so long ago now. I
think they can't get a hold of you. I did get something
although they look probably on your Twitter account. See I
didn't get to just not to miss to do you didn't get a checkmark
I did get a written interview request which I complied with.
And I think that was from the UAE Arab Emirates often look it
up. It was very detailed. Oh, yeah. Oh, two something like
that. No, no one ever asked me I think why would they? I mean,
I've only been through it all once. I've already seen how it
won't work. It's okay.
Oh, that's the reason they're not now you know, now you know
why the why they're not gonna call you Yes. You gotta throw a
wet blanket on it.
Sorry Sorry guys.
All right. Well, we got enough wet blankets throwing our own
stuff so we'll do that I want to go doesn't mean anything to us
because We ask our listeners and producers to take part in the
show and contribute to keeping it going. It's truly suck if it
had sponsors, it's the
best way to do it. It is the end people love it. Enough secrets
given away.
Bloomberg was on the view, no cheese.
You didn't actually watch it. This is a clip you just got or
someone sent it to you.
What do you think? Well, you've been very critical of President
Trump. And you're you've been openly weighing a run against
him in 2020. You didn't run the last time?
No, I think we found that you cannot win as an independent
because the Electoral College requires a majority, not a
plurality. And even if I did get a lot of electoral votes, you
couldn't possibly win, it would have gone to the house and the
house would then pick the Republican candidate or the
Democratic candidate.
What is what is he? What is his lie?
He's claiming that if you run as an independent, it's the
Electoral College won't recognize it's gonna go to the
house, and he's going on and on with some nonsense, but it's
okay. Sam, then
pick the Republican candidate or the next time pick the
Democratic candidate. Yeah. And you have to have become a
spoiler in a way. That's exactly what my obit would have been. He
was a spoiler. They can write other things about anyone.
What would make it more appealing to you then for 2020?
You'd only run if you could get the Republican or the Democratic
nomination. Obviously, the Republicans probably not gonna
be available. And I don't agree with almost everything they
stand for today. So it has to be the Democratic nomination. And
if you want to run, that's what you'd have to do. And I don't
know I've looked at it. And I've said we'll beginning of the year
focus on it. No chance
ever. He's so boring. You can't you can't put that one back. We
need we need excitement. No one will vote for him.
He's delusional that knows that.
It's just bad. Of course, if anyone read the essay that was
in the last failed newsletter, they will realize that the real
problem that the Democrats have is Hillary and they're not just
doing everything they can to avoid talking about her,
including Maureen Dowd, who came out with a very interesting
piece in The New York Times where she hates Hillary. And she
says all Bill and Hillary are going on their tour yet to pay
700 bucks ago, listen to them and their places are dead empty.
And then they have a picture there on
Groupon there. The tickets are on Groupon. Yeah. You hail fail.
Michelle Obama is selling out internationally. This is
the Yeah, but this is the mean, do we know this? Any of this for
a fact?
What Michelle Obama selling out internationally,
or the Clintons not selling out at all? Well,
the Clintons have had empty seats. And Michelle Obama has
had full seats. In fact, I got a lot of emails from people
because their tickets went on sale today in the Netherlands.
She's also appearing there. And she's got some big venues. Yes.
Yes. Becoming Michelle Obama definitely making
a point and put it pushing this meme into the media, trying to
get Hillary off the track of running again, because if she
does, they've got all kinds of problems.
They would split the vote a lot. It would really mean I.
I believe that. And as I expressed in the essay, she
deserves to win. And I'll give a little summary of what the what
the the problem the Democrats have is that by and that's why
they're pivoting away from the Russia collusion thing. They
have to pivot away from it, because if it's Russia collusion
and the and the 2016 election was rigged. That means Hillary
was job
dry. Yes. And she got ripped off. She deserves Yeah,
she needs Yeah, she need justice for Hillary she she got screwed.
She should be given a second chance. I like that. I got a
letter from somebody saying Yeah, well, you know, Hillary
would kick his ass or she ran again, and maybe I, I yeah, I
don't maybe is the right word. But doubtful is another word
that I think you can use.
Anyway, so that's
something happened. Time magazine came out with their
Person of the Year. And I'm not sure that they do four different
covers, or it's a rotating cover. They can never seem to
make up their mind. But what they did is they made it about
journalists. Khashoggi Yeah, they put Khashoggi on and then
but also, the people who were killed. Remember when the they
were gunned down at the newspaper office? Yeah, near it.
Was it in Delaware? Not where was it?
Well, doesn't matter. But better Linda came. Yeah.
But my question is,
is was he a journalist? Or was he a columnist? Or an essayist?
I mean, you you bill yourself as a columnist, for instance, on
the DHS unplugged show, is there a difference? If so, what is the
difference? And should Khashoggi be treated as a journalist like
he is being treated by Time Magazine?
No. And I'll tell you what I think the point is, is
journalists do journalism, they go out and report. He's not a
reporter. But now when you get down to colonists, you get a lot
of colonists where you go to certain editors, and the editors
don't like columnist because they don't like anybody who can
just be ruled out. They don't like that. They'd rather have
somebody doing reporting. So they've actually demand that
columnist report. I want to see more reporting in this column.
What's a column it's an opinion pieces. So somebody's idea of
you know, what's going on in the world that might give somebody
else some insight, which was a good example, in the essay I
wrote, which is a kind of a column it's an essay really, and
column good columns to me are essays. They're not reportage.
But because showcase showed no signs of ever being a report. I
mean, I could do it. I can go out and stick a microphone in
somebody's face and ask them a question and record it. It's not
that hard journalism is actually not that difficult. It's not.
Oh, well,
I liked that. I liked it. Yeah, thank you. Because that would
really get you in hot water with your lip Joes. If you said, Oh,
journalism's nachos
that just don't like to talk about it. Well, the question was
posed, but one of my lip Joe friends always says, Hey, why
are we talking about this? We're not Hemingway. This question is
in line with the question
of journalist versus columnist was posed to Professor Chris
chambers, professor of Media Studies at Georgetown
University. And this was on RT, his answer, as you can imagine,
differed from what you just said.
Okay. Professor, I have to tell you, it's great. Do you think
this is a good thing for time to actually recognize? So
I think so. I mean, it's about time because we're entering a
very dark time, in terms of of getting information out there.
People relying too much on gossip and innuendo and fake
news. And saying that this is a dangerous profession. And people
need to see that, I think, and I think this was a great choice
for them. And well, I don't think it was gimmicky, gimmicky,
probably would have been Robert Mueller, or somebody like that.
I think they took the hard way right up for this. I mean, they
could have gone with Robert Mueller or somebody like that.
They went with this, and I applaud them finally for doing
this.
Absolutely. Now to put all of them together, though, I think
the question that a lot of especially if you did you were a
journalism student, and you watch the news that you have to
question. Is there a difference, though, between being a
columnist, and a journalist? And is that kind of shot not
necessarily defined amongst these four covers?
Well, I don't, I haven't read the the companion piece yet. But
I think what my opinion is they're trying to find a common
language that everybody can kind of hook into, and not make these
fine distinctions. Now, what I would tell what I tell my
students is that the minute to buy puts a bullet in your head,
you're probably a journalist, because if you're a columnist, I
mean, some of the people at the Gazette were columnist, it's,
it's presenting information, whatever platform or, or outlet
you use, be it you know, your opinion and personal essays, or
you're going for hard as expos days, you're doing something
that upsets some very powerful people. And rather than having
them debate you on that, they send a group of assassins after
you or they go crazy and walk into your office and blow you
away. And I think that once you once you take a bullet or a
knife, I think everybody is is pretty much a journalist at that
point.
Wow. How wrong Could you be John? Once you take that once
you take a bullet, then all of a sudden your journal?
I thought that to be
interesting. Now, he interests he really only wrote for The
Washington Post for about a year. It wasn't all that long.
And Savelle Edmonds, who typically news BOD, don't look
at what she's what they're doing over there. Usually just not
enough time in the day, but Savelle admins when when it
comes to Turkey, she knows what's going on. And she's been
filing for the past seven or eight weeks. A lot of reports
about Khashoggi from Turkey. And just she has not done anything
final. There's no clips listen to from from her reporting, at
least, but she says she feels that this was definitely some
kind of operation but not from the Saudis. She believes it was
the Muslim Brotherhood, and mainly from Qatar because we
have With all these changes with the with the Saudi royal family,
Khashoggi basically chose the wrong side. But in the, you
know, he chose the anti MBS side, but in the week before
anything happened to him, whatever it was, in his Arabic
publications, according to Isabel Edmonds, he started, they
flipped and he became much more positive. And you really want he
really wanted to go back to Saudi Arabia. And the thinking
from Edmonds is, and you know, she worked for the FBI, she was
a translator, she had very high security clearance. And she's
been a whistleblower on this stuff for a long time. I think
she has credibility in this area for sure that she believes that
it was the Muslim Brotherhood, and in particular, the Qataris
who just jumped out of OPEC. Let's just add that there.
There's all kinds of problems during them in Saudi Arabia.
They didn't want Khashoggi giving the Saudis any intimate
details about their operation. And that the fiancee, who
brought him to the Consulate who we've never heard from again,
where are the interviews with her? Have we seen anything from
the fiance, he just gotten married for the second time, he
had two wives already. And this was now his girlfriend in
Turkey. And what the newsbud people alleges that she was a
honeypot to get him in. And that's where things were taken
care of. But for some reason, she feels it was not Saudi
Arabia. It was the Qataris and in particular, through Muslim
Brotherhood affiliated groups. So I'm kind of looking at we
already think asserted that Khashoggi may be some form of
spy, not just your typical little columnist, we've, you
know, he was spoke at the Pentagon, we had all kinds of
clips. And then here's the the woman who hired him at the
Washington Post. This is Karen a TIA. And she has a very short
Wikipedia entry for someone who is the global opinion editor of
the Washington Post, or is that a very easy job to get? what's
your what's your opinion of that?
It's one of those. It's a weird job. It's not that easy to get
and in Washington Post would be probably a difficult job because
it's important to Washington, DC based operation. non trivial,
okay, and doesn't mean you're going to have a lot of creds
that anybody would want to see in the Wikipedia.
Well, exactly. Here's what she is what she has born August 12,
a gun guy, not Ghanaian American writer and global opinions
editor for The Washington Post born in north eastern Texas to
Nigerian got honey and mother and Ghani and father, after a
bachelor's degree at Northwestern University a to one
a Fulbright scholarship to study in Accra, Ghana, and obtained a
Master of Arts from Columbia University before joining the
Washington Post.
That's a pretty quick timeline.
Yeah, it's very spooky to get well
this is exactly what I was thinking. I'm thinking spot the
spook, maybe a spa the spoon, spot, the spoon. Everybody wants
to spot so let's see if we can put it to the test and listen to
the words she's using or that are used with her in regards to
Khashoggi it does seem fitting in
this one here, Karen, it is with me. She's a global opinions
editor for The Washington Post. And it was Karen who recruited
Khashoggi to the post about a year ago, like a pleasure to
have you on and I just wanted to you to react to the precedent
setting. It was the it's the world this vicious world to
blame for Jamal's murder. What do you make of that?
It's just such a, you know, for president and an administration
that has been so preoccupied with projecting strength with
projecting America first. It just is such a sort of weak and
cynical statement and it denotes a sort of helplessness in the
face of, of human rights abuses of repression, and says nothing
of you know, our role in at least in this case. In the case
of Jamal starter in the case of the
ghost these no one if she's not hyperventilating, she's nervous
as hell. Yeah. So that makes me think she's probably not a
spook, because I can't imagine her not being able to hold it
together the simple question like this, lady, she's been
competent. But, you know, as somebody says, nervous always
makes you wonder how they get these positions.
Any other observations?
Not yet, besides the fact that she uses weird language?
No, just we'll finish. Yeah, we'll finish this one up. And
then the the final clip may tell us more
and says nothing of, you know, our role, and, at least in this
case, in the case of Jamal's murder in the case of the war in
Yemen, in the case have, you know what we're seeing to be,
you know, global instability and repression coming from Saudi
Arabia? denying that we have any sort of role to play and
stopping this?
I don't think that was an answer to the question. But okay, she
recruited Khashoggi just over a year ago and all this love and
adoration and we have to play this up. And thank you
Washington Post for making that also very clear. And then we get
to the flub, where the truth always wants to come out one
minute clip of her with Anderson Cooper,
it does seem fitting and also incredibly sad that his last
column, this last column, would be about freedom of the press in
the Arab world. It's fitting
that it's, in our time working together, especially in the last
several weeks.
You hear the difference in her inner voice now? A little bit.
Yeah, he was
very analytic. And he would come into the office. We had lunch a
couple of weeks ago, and he was very adamant about wanting to do
more in Arabic. He wanted to create a sort of International
Herald Tribune for the Arab world.
The International Herald Tribune, for the Arab for the
Arab world is in the eye he isn't that a known CIA
publication?
Well, it's it. It's propaganda
to eh, T was always better how much propaganda i I've had
material in their propaganda was a joint venture between the New
York Times and The Washington Post, which is sketchy if you
think about it, yes. And I think it was recently I think the
Washington Post was kicked out of the New York Times took it
over. And I could be wrong. It's one of the two I know it's not.
It's not what it once was, which was this joint venture. And if
you if you want to say that as a mouthpiece for the CIA, because
they message overseas in it, because it's really, it's
something you buy, when you're in London, you're floating
around, if you're a traveler, you pick it up, because it's
good. It's got a summary of everything. And if you want me
by saying that as a mouthpiece for the CIA, you have to be
saying that the New York Times is to write
so but why would he even Why would this even be the topic of
conversation just seem like an odd things? Oh, why can't I
really want to build the International Herald Tribune for
the Arab world? I mean, is it relevant anymore,
it's not just
the flood is still coming,
wanting to do more in Arabic, he wanted to create a sort of, you
know, International Herald Tribune for the Arab world. And
I think that he, he really, you wanted to be free, he just saw
how journalism was being smashed around the Arab world. And, and
so it was something that he was, he's really pushing for very
pushy about, he wasn't a very pushy writer at all. But on this
note, it was something that he's really passionate about. And to
the point where he would say, Karen, I would do this for free.
Just let me do this. I'll set up editors, I'll figure it out. And
we were discussing even setting up some sort of newsletter,
perhaps that he could help and take charge of. And so it is
poetic. And it's fitting that this would be the last column
that I would write, edit for.
The truth always wants to come out. It's so fitting, this would
be the last column I'd write for, I mean,
fitting that this would be the last column that I would write,
edit for him.
And this is long silence. I appreciate you joining us. Thank
you.
The video is great. It's in the show notes on a show notes.com
You can see she realizes she she made a mistake and she does this
big gulp and Anderson just looking at it. Oh, sorry. It
wouldn't surprise me that he was in front for somebody else's
writing. As she was ghost writing for him that wouldn't
surprise me it's not unusual. You have some brand name person,
right? Next thing you know, they have a call I'm in somehow
they're become pretty good writers. How does that work is
not that easy to me. I mean, it's easy to just to write
aimlessly but to piece things together. So they're well
structured. And you're not all you know, mess, right? It's not
that easy. In the end. Turns out with most editors in flutter
will tell you this, too. It's I feel this way myself. Sometimes
it's easier for me just to write you somebody wants to write
something and they can't write. Let me just do it.
Oh, I'm not arguing. And but you put all the pieces together.
He's on. He's a cover of Time magazine. A columnist who wrote
for a little over a year probably didn't write his own
material as you point out what is what why why What symbol why
is this being played up being particular by everything
connected to the Washington Post?
What isn't? What is
the I think If the first clips that you had or worse
considering by the night clips, but the discussion of that woman
who's investigative reporter with with creds Yeah, that this
was an operation because you know, MBS did arrest like that
most of these people, and then they only tend to be heard that,
oh, they're all associated with him. Yeah. Well, we got that
from our news sources. And it could be bullcrap. I've never
heard it from him. No, and, and he they're probably going to be
executed. Now, the question that comes to mind immediately is how
does the the Muslim Brotherhood get inside the the consulate,
the way they did this rounds guy and kill him without the
consulate being implicit, which is possible because the Muslim
Brotherhood is like, They're everywhere. They're everywhere
on this like as subversive operation?
Well, we We've only heard a story in the story. We don't
know anything. Right. But Trudeau back to the interview
with Trudeau was asked about this and just listen to how the
story is now fact.
I want to move to another thing that happened at the G 20. When
you took some time to meet with the Saudi prince, the Saudi
Crown Prince MBs.
Did you realize he met with the Saudi prince? What an outrage I
can't believe that he shake his hand. This is an outrage.
He raised the issue of rife Badawi his sister, Jamal
Khashoggi and the war in Yemen. How does a leader respond to
another leader coming up to him and saying, Listen, we have some
problems here. How does he respond to that?
Assuming that he did that,
I think that very much depends on the the way things are
phrased. And my my frame, in all cases on the world stage is
Canada wants to be helpful in moving us towards a better place
as a plant. It's never a situation of, of imagining that
we can stand there and tell another country what what to do
or how to do it. It's saying, like what we do would be great
if you were to do this, and we would we could be helpful in
moving forward in a constructive way. How
do you say to the Crown Prince, we were pretty sure you were
involved in the killing of an innocent journalist,
oh, we say we need we need better answers on that we need
better accountability, the killing of a journalist is
something that is extremely serious to Canadians to me.
And his response to you saying that with you knowing full well
what you know about the intelligence behind it, oh,
wait a minute. Apparently, he's been read into this report that
never was published at the CIA denies.
That's what she said
to his response to you saying that with you knowing full well
what you know about the intelligence behind it.
His his response is, look, we're happy to continue to work and
and get more information and more proof. And if you have, you
know, proofer information, you will continue to provide it. So
that's exactly what do you roll your eyes at that point?
Being a leader on the world stage involves having an ability
to engage with all types of people without letting personal
personal feelings overtake ones involuntary movements.
You know why he's okay. In involuntary movement. He's full
of crap. The reason why he's not doing anything is because of the
arms deal that Canada Canada Navia has with Saudi Arabia. Oh,
maybe we should put some pressure on.
President Trudeau. President Prime Minister, what is it?
Like I'm sure that that reporter asked him that? Yes. Yes, she
did. Actually.
You You said you also made it clear to the crown prince that
Canada stands up for human rights. How can you say that to
him? Knowing that we are still selling those light armored
vehicles? Is there not a contradiction in that
up? Yo, this is a question that comes up, not just in regards.
I'm just trying to try and wrap my head around this question. So
Canada stands for Human Rights. I think what she means is
because we stand for human rights, we won't allow any
business dealings with Saudi Arabia because they kill the
journalist. But the actual business dealing is about
weaponry that helps kill people. So where's the human rights in
this? I found? It's very I can't put my head around the whole
concept. It's
funny. Ironic, you
said you also mentioned
that's truly this is the definition of irony right here
clear
to the crown prince that Canada stands up for human rights. How
can you say that to him knowing that we are still selling those
light armored vehicles? Is there not a contradiction in that up?
Yo, this
is a question that comes up not just in regards to Saudi Arabia,
but in regards to a broad range of array of countries that have
different different levels of defense of human rights than
then Canadians have and Canadians expect. We try to look
for constructive ways to have relationships that lead us to
being able to be very frank on human rights while at the same
time, look for a way where you're not, you know, sort of
shaking your fist at someone and saying you've got to change, you
know, in an expectation yet please, everyone
yell and scream that the United States does have to act that
way. What a douche
that alone will we'll have them a is contract impossible to
break their their reflections on going
can we break the contract? Oh, there's reflections going
around. So
lie just so I'm clear, though, that the contract could be
broken.
Possible. The as as I highlighted the contract has
particular provisions both for confidentiality and around
significant penalties in the billions of dollars. And it was
a contract that was signed by the previous government and we
are looking at it.
In other words, we're not going to be stupid, we're not going to
call for end to arm sales like the idiots in America, in the
United States. That will be stupid. Now, we're just going to
keep selling it very good. And, of course, we have the question
about the tape. And we all know that everyone's been read in
everyone's had has heard a copy. We all know what's going on. But
yet, is there really a tape?
Have you heard the tape? Or have you been briefed on what that
tape is briefed on? And what was that? Like?
Obviously, it's it's the it's something that intelligence
communities have taken and listen to and work with. And as
part of our reflection on getting real answers,
but is it okay to characterize it for me? I'm not going to
characterize that horrific.
I'm not going to characterize it.
There's no tape.
These could be a tape that is why wouldn't they? If I was part
of this scheme, whatever the scheme is, I just get a bunch of
actors together and produce a tape. Yeah. Because the guy
somebody's screaming and other guy, you know, then muffle it.
So it sounds like you know, it's like in some guy's pocket the
microphone. Sounds like it's too hard to produce a tape unless
it's a videotape that would be tough. What was the videotape?
You know what there
is, there's nothing, there's nothing very beginning they said
there was a video, it's not even a body, we don't even have a
body. There's nothing it's just a story. But the story is ON
TIME Magazine, where the columnist becomes a journalist,
once you take a bullet to the head, even though he didn't take
no bullet to the head.
Just call yourself a journalist.
Skip the bullet part.
And just just call yourself Well anyway, I find this very strange
and still, hopefully Savelle Edmonds will come up with more
stuff. But it's not something is very very wrong with this and
this and it just brought it all back and we got it on the WITH
THIS TIME magazine cover.
Yeah.
Well, let's see what we got here. I got a transitional clip
is what we like, watch. I'm ready. Do you have a listen to
this? This is a guy I don't even know who this guy is. I've seen
him before he some conspiracy guy was on some very strange
Twitter account, which is like one of these Q but it's not
quite a Q anon type thing. And it's this guy explaining the he
goes, I just find it fascinating because there's so many holes in
his story. And it doesn't really make any sense. And it's almost
worth discussing just because it's so crazy. This is the
crackpot Berg. This guy talks about Berg doll and how it's a
background on everything that's going on and what's really
happening and some of it might be true, some of it doesn't make
any sense. But play this crackpot clip. The real
reason behind Bergdahl is release. Bergdahl was released
in exchange for five Taliban generals in order to cover up
the Obama Hillary Stinger missiles sales to Libya. So
here's the real story. Ambassador Stevens was sent to
Benghazi to secretly retrieve us made Stinger missiles that the
State Department had supplied to answer all Sherea in Libya
without congressional oversight or permission. Secretary of
State Hillary Clinton had brokered the Libya deal through
Ambassador Stevens and a private arms dealer named Mark Turi. But
some of the shoulder fired Stinger missiles ended up in
Afghanistan, where they were used against our own military.
On July 25 2012, a US Chinook helicopter was down that by one
of them not destroyed only because the idiot Taliban didn't
arm the missile. The helicopter didn't explode, but it had to
land and and ordnance disposal team recovered the missiles
serial number which led back to a cache of stinger missiles kept
in Qatar by the CIA. Oh Mom and Hillary were in full panic mode.
So Ambassador Stevens was sent to Benghazi to retrieve the rest
of the stinger missiles. This was a do or die mission, which
explains the stand down orders given to multiple rescue teams
during the siege of the US Embassy. It was not the State
Department not the CIA that supplied the stinger missiles to
our sworn enemies, because General Petraeus had CIA would
not approve supplying the deadly missiles due to their potential
use against commercial aircraft. So then Obama threw General
Petraeus under the bus when he refused to testify in support of
Obama's phony claim that a spontaneous uprising caused by a
YouTube video that insulted Muslims. Obama and Hillary
committed treason. This is what the investigation is all about.
Why she had a private server in order to delete the digital
evidence.
You know, this not so crackpot? I've heard this theory and I
know I can't remember the guys name. Who does this podcast on
YouTube. I think it sounds very plausible. And this is what I
woke
up. You say that? What's Bergdahl? And the five generals
from the Taliban have to do with any of it?
That part? I'm not so sure about?
He chose that in at the very beginning. Give us the I'm not
sure.
I'm not sure why.
You hear that kind of thing I'm thinking of this is this is one
of those things where you start to throw you're throwing you're
you're throwing a chum in the water with kind of screwball
stuffing. And if you take this thing apart piece by piece by
piece you realize that none of it makes any sense I think this
guy's completely full of crap I stick by our old thesis which
was a it was a kidnapping gone astray Stinger missiles story of
today I'd like to get some evidence for that if there's any
evidence at a that one of these choppers was brought down by a
dead missile that hit the thing apart I don't know. That happens
bounce off or anything okay.
So what's your point? So you think that this is a conspiracy
theory and you think it's full of crap?
Yeah, okay.
I've heard it I've heard the serial number stuff I have not
looked at it because at this point, what does it matter to no
agenda Imagine all the people who could do that oh yeah,
that'd be fun I can't hear you
what at this point what difference does it make
that's what that's what I needed
to say. Yeah, I think she says she said she actually puts
I could do a she phrases it is just a little different. Hola
here it is. What difference at this point does
it make there it is? Yeah.
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And well, I got one here.
This doesn't get a lot of play anywhere. But this is like a
disgusting story. And this was on this was on CBS but it wasn't
on the nightly news at least maybe it was on the yesterday's
but I didn't get it. I got it. It was like an add on. If you go
to the website, they have these extra stories that you can watch
that looks like they were supposed to be produced because
they they were produced for the news where they were never used.
Yeah, and this is the Rockefeller or this case where
Rockefeller hospitals scandal.
patients and relatives of those treated at a famous research
hospital here in New York are looking for answers tonight.
They want to know why Rockefeller University stayed
quiet about a prominent doctor who died 11 years ago, but is
believed to abused children for decades. Victims could number
over 1000 Which would potentially make it the largest
case of sexual abuse by one person in US history. More on
this now from Anna Warner and a warning some of the details
you're about to hear are graphic
T was revered like a god he was
Matt Harris was one of 1000s of former patients who saw Dr.
Reginald Archibald as children at the prestigious Rockefeller
Institute in New York City. Archibald was a highly regarded
growth specialist who said he could help children who were not
maturing like their peers.
He was like going to be our family families. Savior.
Archibald research was supposed to help kids grow taller, but
these former patients told us he sexually abused them. Harris was
14. Gail Coleman was 11 Robert Granada was eight and Mitchell
sure was just five
the entire time you're in the room there with him, you're
naked.
He took his finger and he pushed one of my nipples
and he basically proceeded to to masturbate me he would rub me
there and start asking me Does this feel good.
In a statement in October officials revealed they
investigated a complaint about Archibald inappropriate conduct
in 2004 and reported it to authorities but they also found
complaints going back to the 1990s. So I'm deemed credible.
Attorney Jennifer Freeman says her firm has had hundreds of
calls. And so what does that say to you?
That says that there are a tremendous number of victims out
there.
There was probably a year after I saw started seeing him.
Yet these former patients say they never heard anything from
the hospital until officials they're sent out this letter in
October to more than 1000 of Archibald former patients asking
for information.
I got the letter. And all of a sudden, I felt like I was
flashing back 50 years ago. It was burned in my brain. What he
did to me,
what do you make of the hospital statements?
I am outraged.
outraged. Gail Coleman says she's particularly angry because
the doctor took pictures. She and the others were told to
stand without clothing. Like the children in these old studies,
while he took Polaroid photos of their naked bodies,
those pictures are what has haunted me through the years.
In 2003. She contacted the hospital looking for answers.
And I got my medical records back and there were no pictures.
And that tells me they weren't for medical research. They were
for him with something
like this happens to you kind of robbed of hope, robbed of you
know, trusting people trusting institutions, trusting humanity.
They had to know
something was going on. So if the hospital comes out and says,
Well, nobody inside our hospital knew what he was doing.
I don't believe I can't believe that. The hospital has that take
some responsibility for this.
Oh my god. This is the bums me out. This is almost like the
clip we had on the last show with the transgender and
children. Yeah,
so the thing is, I'm with these people say that the heartbeat
somebody had to know something. This is bullcrap. Just like the
Jimmy Savile thing.
Yeah, this is and where is this guy right now? Dead. Oh. Just
like Jimmy Savile? Yeah. How long has he been dead?
I think he died in 2011. Seven years.
All right, thanks. I'm totally grossed out now. That is gross.
And
I run it and I don't think CBS ran it in the regular news
because it's for that reason to grow. It's a disgusting story.
You guys getting away with this? You know all I'm gonna show you
how to grow. Here's the Oh, look. You're grown now. I mean,
the whole thing is gross. And it's like this. Nobody's
noticing nobody. There's been complaints and nobody pays
attention to it.
I don't know. I did get an
just speaking you get call a pedophile. Some guy playing
Santa Claus at Macy's.
Yeah, so what's your point?
Well, the thing is, I mean, we're going out to the real
pedophiles, not to Santa, but this guy while he's dead. You
know? They're going after him now like Savile?
Yeah. I don't like this clip. I did get a very thoughtful note
from Ali. Ali, she's the official no agenda trainee.
Okay. From Ah,
I don't know. Do you think she's in some Midwestern State
although she sent me the note she said note here from the
official no agenda tranny. I'm sorry, now known as the
transgendered person is you can't say tranny. And she said
something that made me think about what's really going on
with the identity politics particularly when it comes to
transgendered people. Yes, transgendered people. And this
was I think, in response to the clip of the the Los Angeles
clinic that was you know, stopping puberty for kids as
young as six or seven to help them understand who they are
before they continue with the with the, the right puberty, we
even titled the show after that. So Sally Jade says, I agree with
you, on the internet, social media influencing transgender
cases, but not all are and here's your point. I'm 31. And I
just kind of question whatever the hell I was. Without the
internet or any outside influences. My parents were
religious and conservative. I'm not alone. And uh, here's the
thing. A lot of us older generations that came before the
social media blast started churning out all the letters
added to LGBT. Personally, most of us older ones. Do not like
the loud, annoying trans social generation. Our goal was to move
into a normal life, in her case as a woman, and not to live life
as a transgendered person. And it was something that I've been,
it was in my mind, I guess for a long time. It's like, if you are
transgendered, and you truly believe that you were you were
born in the wrong body, and you need to become a man or a woman.
Then you just become a man or a woman? Isn't that the whole
point? But why then is there this huge group that wants to
identify as kind of stuck in between?
Do you know what I mean? You're asking me?
Well, no, it's kind of rhetorical. It's just it seems
like that is it's so wrong if you're either man or woman. I'm
just going by today's social justice, Warrior notifications.
And if you're trans yet, okay, great. I believe that I'm a
woman, and then I'm going to dress like a woman gonna act
like a woman, I may have my body changed to be a woman, then I'm
a woman stop calling them transgendered unless you're, I
mean, you're really separating people. You know, I
mean, it feels very wrong. The point is
to create oppressed classes. Yeah, that's what identity
politics is.
Well, it's working. Yeah, of course it is. And people should
reject it. They really should reject
your well thought out schemes. Yeah. And by the way, it's
Trump's fault.
Hello, we all know that. Cheese was an easy one.
Orange Man bad. All right. Brexit still on the cliffhanger
as to what's going to happen. Theresa May still hanging on to
power.
But now they can't do anything about her power for the next 12
months. You know, they when they do a no competent incompetence.
As you get through, then she gets through. Exactly once you
get through it, and you're good to go for the next year.
I would have voted no confidence right off the bat. The minute I
heard her in the Prime Minister question time, when she answered
this question, I would have said no confidence, kick her out.
So knowing you for 20 years, I just don't believe that if your
deal goes down, you are the kind of person who would contemplate
taking this country into a no deal situation. Am I wrong?
The decision decision for Parliament as to whether they
accept the deal that I and the government have negotiated on
behalf of Europe, the United Kingdom with the European Union.
The ones you negotiated on behalf of the European Union. I
mean,
this is one of the thesis of people who are new listeners of
this show. We have a theory that continues to pay dividends,
which is that the truth must always come on as it has it
there's a background for it that gives us gives us belief that
this is probably true. And that is people will slip up. I guess
it was used to be called a Freudian slip and then never
laughed it off as a joke. Hahaha Freudian slip. But it's actually
what's going on is they're saying things that they believe
that they they're telling us reality accidentally because
they can't hold it. Hold it.
It always wants to come out. It always wants to come out. It's a
fact.
Yeah, so she's working on behalf of the EU. Of course she is.
I've got a quick OTG This is another study. It will not
surprise you. But it's always fun to bring you the fact
some studies suggest adolescents and young adults exchanged 60 to
100 text messages a day. But what about at night when they're
sleeping? Well, apparently the texting doesn't stop there
either. It's called Sleep texting. Really? How do you
texting for sleeping? Really? How's that possible? A new study
from the Villanova college of nursing professors says a
growing number of college students are texting friends in
the wee hours of the night with no recollection of having done
so more than 25% of the kids surveyed said they texted and
they're asleep. 72% of them say they don't remember doing it.
People have gotten used to sleeping next to their devices.
So subconsciously people are falling asleep and there may be
some angst about communicating with someone and trying to get a
message to someone and they're reaching for the phone and
communicating in this kind of altered state of consciousness.
The problem here say experts is that sleep texting causes
interrupted sleep, which can affect someone mentally,
physically and more.
It affects you emotionally because people become more
anxious and more depressed when they haven't had enough sleep.
And now sleep texting appears to be more frequent. The solution
say experts ditch the phone and the electronics get them out of
the bedroom and give your brain the rest
it needs. I gotta tell you if you're sleep texting,
you are definitely an NPC in the game. You're just running your
program.
Now I want to mention a couple of things. One is that people
unfortunately use the stupid phones as their alarm clocks.
Yes. So they're not getting them out of the bedroom. I just story
I want to follow up on at some later date. On the alarm clock
side of it on on this whole story whether it's through
texting.
Gotcha. skeptical. Alright everybody. Couple more days and
then we'll see what's happening with Sunday's deconstruction as
well. lot happening and you're not seeing it on your cable news
networks. That's for sure. So forever scanning the airwaves of
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Science is turning into a cliche. Nancy Pelosi Chuck
Schumer. Trump in his speech was
given I have a contract. It's called funding the government.
We have terrorists we caught 10 terrorists over the last very
short period of time. And
we have a disagreement about the Washington whether it's
effective or not on border security but on the wall, the
wall.
I think the American people recognize that we must keep
government open
the wall. If you really want to find out how effective a wall is
just past Israel 99.9% effective then our wall every bit as good
as that if not better. So the wall will get built the wall. We
thought we were going to get it passed in the Senate. Nancy, we
would do it immediately. We get it passed very easily in the
house. We would get it. Nancy, I'd have it passed in two
seconds. The wall. I am proud to shut down the government for
border security. Wall. The Wall. We need the wall the wall is
excuse me. Did we win the Senate?
We're on the Senate when the President brags that he won
North Dakota and Indiana he's in real trouble
when I did We did win North Dakota
please don't characterize the strength that I bring to this
meeting as the leader of the House Democrats who just won the
big deck that elections have consequences yes the president
the wall wall Thank you very much everybody to show the show.
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