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What is going on with those
people? Adam curry John C

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Devorah. It's Thursday November
22 2018. This is your award

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winning gizmo nation media
assassination episode 10 At ACE

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is no agenda, stopping on Skype
bugs and broadcasting live from

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the capital of the drone Star
State once again and downtown

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Austin T housing the kludi Oh,
in the morning, everybody. I'm

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Adam curry

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and from Northern Silicon Valley
where we didn't miss this

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effort. And it was a unique 10
car train. I'm John C. Dvorak.

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Raglan Buzzkill. Oh my god.

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All right, Happy Thanksgiving.
And tell me

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Give me Do you, you and everyone
out there that will be

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celebrating Thanksgiving,
everyone except the Canadians

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who already had Thanksgiving,
somewhere near the first of

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November.

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You know, the Dutch.

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We've talked about this. I just
got back from my trip to the

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Gitmo nation, lowlands. The
Dutch you know, they love taking

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little traditions in just taking
they don't really like America.

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They think Trump is horrible.
And you know, we're all racist.

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But interestingly, even though
we already know they took

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Halloween, the Dutch have
Halloween celebrations. They

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have Halloween parties. It's not
spelled the same. It's

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Halloween, which is entirely
based on the movies. That's why

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they think it's cool. Hello,
hello, we. But of course the

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Netherlands has no Thanksgiving
since they were not fortunate

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enough to kill the natives of
our country and you know, to eat

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their turkeys.

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But they have built the whole
thing from scratch.

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But they have a Black Friday
now. Which is tomorrow the same

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day.

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I noticed this. I noticed this
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So we don't have Thanksgiving
because you know, it's not our

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celebration, not our country.
But hey, man via Black Friday

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for shopping.

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Unbelievable.

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Yes, I noticed this last year
when we were spending

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Thanksgiving and Ryan are blind.
They had a Black Friday that

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it's like Black Friday. What do
you guys talking about? And is

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this Can we somehow turn this
racist?

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Well, that'd be that would end
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Why is it called Black Friday?
What is the actual?

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Because it's the distant one day
of the year that the books go

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black? They go into the

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Oh, is that really the reason?
Yeah, it's not because we see

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tons of black people piling on
top of each other on the

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Walmart.

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No, it's about it's about this
that one day where they all of a

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sudden now these department
stores are in a profit mode.

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Your money now?

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Ah, okay. I don't think if you
went on the street and you asked

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anyone, I don't think three out
of 10 would know what you were

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over to have that answer.

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I never knew until I looked it
up. There was some years back as

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it were. They call us Black
Friday. It's kind of disgusting.

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That's when things are supposed
to go bad is Black Friday. It's

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when the market crash? Yeah,

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black. It's a black, black.
Black dead. Yeah. All of this

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when the books flip.

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Ah, I didn't realize that. Yeah,
interesting. Well,

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they do have that fresh new on
the no agenda show. Yes, it was

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yes, you do. As car train is
part of this. I kept seeing

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these 10 car trains for the last
week. And I'm thinking as I'm

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looking at these trains again,
why are they 10 cars all of a

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sudden, they've always been
eight, maybe nine? And it turns

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out that it was like yesterday
was the number one travel day of

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all time. I mean, this is the
time that everyone travels

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apparently. Yesterday was the
big day. Yes. Thinking to

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myself. What idiot would travel
on a day like that?

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That would be me. That's right.
I came home yesterday. Although

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I was traveling from from Gitmo
lowlands through London, back to

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Austin so I didn't really have
the the you know, the National

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internal rush that we had. And
it was actually it was it was

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okay. But let me

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tell you that it What

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do you mean the internal reach
over the internet you

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know, us just domestic domestic
flights? Why would they be

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trying?

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There's no Thanksgiving in
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that's the only thing that was
really messed up international

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flights coming in. There was no
real issue. Going to the going

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to a US airport standing in US
airport line. That's what I'm

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saying. I didn't I was at the
airport at five and Amsterdam to

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get out believe me very calm at
that time. of hope. And then I

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flew to London, you know you'd
run you go to terminal five and

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you have to you stay within the
terminal but then you have no

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stop back up. Stapledon DCPP me
the Netherlands people Amsterdam

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airport. As you leave the
country. This is new. I have not

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seen this before. You scan your
boarding card. You can see the

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customs guy right there because
there is a exit interview. In

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the Netherlands for your
customs. When you're leaving,

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they stamp you In stamp you out.
But before that there's this you

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know, there's gates and you have
to stay at little glass gates,

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you have to go into a portal, or
like a subway station, you scan

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your boarding card, and then it
says, look here, boom, boom,

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boom, this is light flashing off
to the right, you see yourself

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on the camera, and it's doing a
complete, you know, facial

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recognition scan.

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Almost makes the sound

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lasted about 30 seconds before
it finally let me in, I took my

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glasses off. I don't know,
maybe, maybe that helped or not,

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they couldn't find me, but it
sure got a scan of me. If it

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wasn't scanning, it was making
one I don't like that. I don't

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understand that. That's just
that just appeared out of the

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blue. And of course after you
then slide your passport into

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their little scanner, so the
linking my face with my

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passport, not that the passport
doesn't have a picture. Anyway,

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then you go to blended now
you're in terminal five, you

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arrive in terminal five, and you
want to do a transit you again

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you go through similar little
glass gates, you scan your,

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your, your boarding card, and
then you have to go through

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security again. Have you ever
done this secure? I don't know

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if I've talked about this. Have
you ever done the security going

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back to the US in terminal five
in at Heathrow because you have

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to you have to essentially go
through a whole security process

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again. Except these agents are
dicks. They're, they're rude.

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They're just asses. Many of them
women, American agents, no,

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these are British. These are
British and they are rude. They

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treat you like you're an idiot.
You know? It's it's fair to me

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it feels the very chauvinistic
Brits, you know, you don't

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understand this prep. I spit on
you foreigner it's like just

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assholes have really good really
goads me. And I've had this a

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couple of times. It's just like,
wow, you know, there's it gets

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to the point where, of course my
bag has to be ripped open. But

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you know, they really Cavalier
they walked back and forth, just

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excuse me, I'm kind of waiting
on my bag, then they give you a

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look and they make you wait five
more minutes. You know, that

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other other pass and then I'm
packing my bag in which they've

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opened up and you know, and
excuse me, I need the space this

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is you just unpack this and I'm
packing it in Yes, I need the

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space you have to move where
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passengers saying you take your
time, you know, we'll wait for

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her just their asses and I saw
every single I had three hours

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layover. What is going on with
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Ah, it's it's unwritten.

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In a way. It was very British.

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It's, you know, this is why it
baffles me. But maybe it is

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actually the real true brace,
but they just treat you with

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disdain. And I'm not saying our
TSA officers are any better,

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Yelena yet? But it's so
surprising because you don't

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expect it

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in the UK. Anyway, there you go.
So, what was my point?

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What you were talking about?
Well, we were trying to discuss

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the tribulations of traveling on
the worst travel

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day of it. Yes, there you go.
There you go. So for me

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otherwise it was fine. Just took
forever to you land in Austin.

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You're You're right. You're good
to go. But you just suitcase I

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don't know. I think they've
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been pre checked in London. Is
that the idea? Yeah. checked all

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the way through. Yeah. And then
you just get off and Austin and

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you're done? Well, yeah, you

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wait for an hour and a half
because when you when you are

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pre checked, you get that long
transit sticker and of course

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they put you I guess somewhere
way in the front or the back of

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the plane and so your first on
and definitely last off with

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your baggage. Misses just
whatever I did some first world

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problems.

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However, quick update sports.

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Oh, no. Yes, yes. Yes. That's
the sports news for us from us

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are over here in the San
Francisco Bay Area. The Warriors

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suck the Dutch as you know, they
had trounced and humiliated the

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World Cup winner France, all
they had to do is had a heavy a

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tie score against the Germans
their second game against the

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Germans. And it looked like we
were all going to have to jump

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off the balcony because it was
they were to kneel down at the

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half. And they pulled it out of
their butts and tied the Germans

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in the last minute. They came
for their bikes and they took

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back a wheel. Not the whole
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Very proud of that

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was a big deal. Yeah. Tying a
game with Germany. Yes. And

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interesting to nil nil.

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No, it was it was no it was two
Nil 22422 There was two nil for

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most of the game and then at the
very nil and the very last 10

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games. The last 10 minutes they
pull the one out there the older

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the hat that's actually called
doing it. It's nevermind you're

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just going to scoff it doesn't
matter. I will No I will no

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longer talk about the most
popular sport in the war. World.

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I won't do that.

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Why do you think it is the most
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actions in the stands are people
beaten up each other?

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No. Oh, it's a very simple sport
that anyone can play just need a

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ball and a couple of sticks.
It's a it's a sport everybody

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can can pick up immediately you
can't just pick up this American

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football. You can't afford
basketball any put any

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effort in it.

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You need a basketball hoops to
play basketball and then this in

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soccer football predates so many
sports. It's it's an exciting

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sport, just not on TV.

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Well, it's never gonna be good
on TV, as you've pointed out

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before,

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no advertising, know what you
can put. Put it on TV.

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They don't stop the game like
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put it on the TV. All right back
just back to Thanksgiving for a

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moment. Do we need to do the
story of thanksgiving? It's kind

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of a tradition.

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I can shorten it up a little
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I'd like you to give a quick
recap and then I have a

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great from an old column I wrote
in 2004 was during Thanksgiving

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was brandish throughout US
history and officially codified

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by Lincoln in 1863 at the behest
of an activist woman writer

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named Sarah Hale. Before 1863
There was no Thanksgiving per

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se, but a lot of proclamations
giving thanks for this, some

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some called Thanksgiving. There
are virtually no Thanksgiving

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events from the Thomas Jefferson
administration until Sarah

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revitalized the dying idea. Her
rationale was that Americans

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didn't have enough holidays.
Really, she had the right idea

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that the Lincoln Thanksgiving
was justified as the celebration

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of the Norse victory and winning
the Battle of Gettysburg and had

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absolutely nothing to do with
pilgrims or anything of the

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sort. That nonsense was all
reverse engineered by

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sentimentalists. Even the first
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which is kind of funny because I
was reading on Twitter about how

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suddenly, George Washington is
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thanksgiving. It just had
absolutely zero

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to do with. It never ends. It
never ends this changing story

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of the fake thanksgiving

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for Thanksgiving 14 Anyway, to
1621. There's a three day one

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shot party modeled after
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It wasn't called Thanksgiving
Harvest Home was the end of the

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harvest party celebrated in
parts of the British Isles. This

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party didn't happen again. In
fact, most of these invited

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Indian guests to the 1621 event
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growing population of settlers.

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Thanksgiving. Anyway,

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there's other examples of these
one shots. And it was Lincoln

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who made this now here's the
last of the story. Lincoln who

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made it a yearly event also made
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in November. It only changed I
get this. It only changed for

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two years during the Franklin
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moved up a week in hopes of
stretching. believe this. This

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is a fact in hopes of stretching
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Oh, an extra week.

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Oh, I believe that that makes
that totally sounds American.

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Yeah, in hopes of helping the
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fact that Thanksgiving was the
kickoff to Christmas buying a

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slew of half hearted
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these traditionalist found the
Roosevelt change and abomination

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since his somehow insulted
pilgrims, or the DAR Oh, who

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knows who and it was changed
back after a couple of years of

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bickering. Right so that's
thanks so Thanksgiving is bogus

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and now we have a new thing
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story of this thing called
Friends giving what oh, yeah,

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this is Hi look it up.

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Oh, this sounds like a social
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well what it what it's supposed
to discuss two things going on

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with him one of them is slightly
slightly one of them is

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extremely disgusting if you look
it up in the urban dictionary

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definition number four
Friendsgiving is where you dip

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your nuts into the turkey gravy
and film it and then serve the

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gravy and then show people the
film like a couple of weeks

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John you need to get another
column or something because

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you're spending too much time on
the internet looking at weird

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shit man This has got to stop.

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So friends giving is which is
you'll see the term a lot use

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especially this year. Is the
idea that you have friends over

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as though you never did. friends
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instead of or in lieu of or in
place of family. Oh,

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Thanksgiving means family.
Friends giving means friends

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because you hate your family.
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Oh gosh. Yeah. And

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above the balls in the nut.

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I'd like to I'd like to get
friends giving emceeing as you

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know,

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I am not going to do any gravy.

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I wasn't Not supposed to even do
a show today. But, you know,

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seeing is you were only thinking
of yourself. Okay, here we are.

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Here's how it went. We did. I'll
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perspective, and then we gotta
move on. I was pretty convinced

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we had discussed having a best
of interview show on

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Thanksgiving this year. And John
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Mooch and I think we're gonna do
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little bit, a couple lined up.
It was a little unclear, but I

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was pretty sure we were going to
do a special show. And then John

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was like, Well, I don't have to
cook anyway, no one's coming

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over. So I'm screwed. I'm just
gonna do a show. I'm like, Yeah,

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I have I have people coming. You
didn't even consider me for one

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second. Whatever.

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And I decided that I decided
that sounds a real reason why

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you can't you could just said
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you went, man. Okay. The

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real reason the real reason is
that we've got show 1089 33

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square right, coming up the next
show this Sunday, and I think we

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needed to tease it.

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So this is just a promotional
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Oh, okay. Promotional right
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I forgot I now I understand. I'm
completely on board. Let me then

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move into this. Do you have any
idea when their tradition

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started of the United States
President pardoning a turkey for

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Thanksgiving?

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I'm glad you asked. Because I'm
assuming now that you know, no,

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I don't I did some research. I
know.

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No, I believe it's the first
president might have been. No, I

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don't know. I the reason I don't
know is because I did not look

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it up because I don't care. And
it's a totally fake event. And

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it's something every president
does. Every single year. And

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it's all been Trump. Wait, wait,
just be quiet. It's fun. It's

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like it's fake. It's make
believe it's like Santa Claus.

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It's like black pizza. It's
like, it's just fake fun. Can

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the news media today, just play
along just for one day, just

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play along for one day with the
fake that everyone knows is

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fake. without insulting or
without pulling some other crap

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into it? You know, the orange
MAN bad? No, it doesn't seem to

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be possible. I cut out all the
ceremonious stuff just got you

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the intro and the outro.

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The President is actually about
to take the podium at the White

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House. We're going to go ahead
and listen in there at this rose

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garden event. It's actually the
turkey pardon. I mean, you can't

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make this up happening at this
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the fact that she starts off by
saying you can't make this up.

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I'm like, wait a minute. Is this
something new? Did they not know

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the President does a fake
pardoning of a turkey? I mean, I

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You hear that? Aren't you set up
and very interested as to why

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then this year is different?

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I was

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that introduction makes it sound
very singular that Obama never

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did it, or Bush never did it, or
Clinton never did it, or Kennedy

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never did it, or Johnson never
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And I was I was even more
surprised by what it was all

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about. President is actually
about to take the podium at the

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White House. We're going to go
ahead and listen in there at

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this rose garden event. It's
actually the turkey pardon. I

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mean, you can't make this up
happening at this moment. Let's

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listen. You seated.

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Good afternoon, everyone. A very
special day at the White House.

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We are thrilled to be joined
today

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and there you have it, President
Trump pardoning the Thanksgiving

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turkey, the annual tradition,
peas, the name of this turkey

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and just the most unusual
dichotomy here, as this comes on

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the heels of a statement that
the President has put out,

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essentially pardoning Saudi
Arabia and the Crown Prince and

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the king there, despite what I
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If you if that's what you have
to now take the pardoning of a

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turkey and say, What an
unbelievable dichotomy as he's

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essentially pardoning Saudi
Arabia from their atrocities.

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That is the biggest sharp junk
sharp jump I've ever seen. And

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well for

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this stop on that, that subject
matter for one second, which is

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um, Trump says that he had a
briefing from Gina the head of

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the CIA and I guess somebody,
FBI guy or someone and he said

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they don't know really what
happened.

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Now there's no report. Did you
see your report yet? Was

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there a CIA report but yet all
these news media outlets keep

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saying the CIA the CIA, the CIA,
citing some mysterious report,

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based on apparently someone at
the Washington Post was saying

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it that it exists.

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The Washington Post published,
it exists. It's coming according

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to people familiar with the
process, according to sources

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who could not be identified
according to services who do not

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speak on the record because they
were not authorized to do so. In

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this, it's so easy these days,
just print a headline, say I got

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some sources and be the
Washington Post and you can do

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whatever you want. And now this
is has contaminated the fake

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Turkey pardoning call the
dichotomy because he's pardoning

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a real nation, although there's
no actual pardon. There's no

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presidential pardon going to
Saudi Arabia. This is, you know,

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standing half

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sovereignty over Saudi Arabia
that we can pardon anybody. Do

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they not see the irony of this?
Or are they just trying to be

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fuddled the public or not? But
it's still not too far away from

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the sovereignty we must seem to
see over Julian Assange who's

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not even an American citizen,
right? We're gonna they've

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indicted him for treason who
died? Somebody is that we used

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to indict random people that are
Australians. Well,

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we indict random Russians. Yeah,
we did. Right. We

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had a bunch of random rushes
there will never show up. Except

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for the one showboating

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to for the one guy that actually
said, Yeah, I'm taking you to

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court.

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You know, they don't know what
to do about that.

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Well, a couple of questions come
over here on indictment and

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Astra discovery that will take
care of that problem. Yeah. So

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and

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it's being in Europe for a week.
You really, you can almost see

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this little cyclones of outrage,
that are just spinning around

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here and you don't hold
different timezone. So you get

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the news, and it's just very
different. And I was receiving

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it in a very different man, I
wasn't on Twitter incessantly,

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you know, just reading some
stuff, you know, getting stories

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from people. And you can just
see, it's all it's so much about

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nothing. And then it's all it's
all like this turkey story. It's

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all like, oh, oh, this other man
that.

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And now we have this sure

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you said if Trump I thought I
was actually convinced, and I

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was regretful that he didn't
drop this stupid idea. And I can

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assure you that if he had said,
No, we're not doing that dumb

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Turkey

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would have been he's ruining
American traditions.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Well, I did want to do a little
segment here, I have two clips,

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because I've noticed a very
distinct narrative that's taking

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place a conversation, and the
conversation goes something like

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this. I like what Trump does. I
hate the way he does it, except

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it's a little different. We're
now talking about, we're talking

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about policy versus style.
Style, you see, and this is now

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it's kind of be used as a
defense. So Trump supporters,

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which by the way are called
Trump supporters around the

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world. It's not Trump voters or
Republicans or people who like

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him even in in Holland, it's or
in the UK. I was in both over

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the past week, Trump supporters
Trump supporter What does that

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even mean Trump supporters?
Well, they

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have another term that they use
here a lot, which is called the

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base.

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The base? Yeah,

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the base is catering to the
base. Yes.

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Well, this is policy versus
style. And you'll hear people

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who do favor the President's
policy, often saying, but I

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disapprove of his style. And
this came up in two, I'm trying

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to think which one to play
first. Actually, I'll do this.

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This was Don Lemon. It's a
rather long clip. But I really

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think it's interesting. The
conversation was between four

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women. We had a white Democrat,
a white Republican, a black

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University of Berkeley professor
of history, Stephanie Rogers,

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and we had black Don Lemon, so
four women are on the panel. And

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I know it's just mean to me to
say that but I can't help it.

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They're all Coffee Coffee
clutching and the assertion from

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the Professor of History
Stephanie Rogers, is that women

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white women actually have have
have been a part of the white

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supremacy and institutional
racism that has that dominates

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all things unfair in our
country. And although not

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everyone agrees ultimately it
comes down to how he says stuff

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or what he says versus policy.
And then we'll kind of wine that

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up with a with a with an MSNBC
clip, but first just listen to

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this because it's To the whole
conversation is v is just

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intense to me when it comes to
divisive pneus. Through racism,

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it's definitely you you're
quoting this Vox article is

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saying, for centuries white
women have invested in white

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supremacy because their
whiteness affords them a

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particular kind of power that
their gender does not explain

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what you mean by that.

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So you see, this is a pretty
loaded topic right off the bat.

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So as a historian, I explore
white women's economic

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investments in the institution
of slavery and white women.

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I gotta stop this white men
women's investments in the

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institutional Why did she say
the institutional

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institution of slavery?

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So as a historian, I explore
white women's economic

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investments in the institution
of slavery, white women's

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economic investments in the
institution of slavery, a

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very small minority of people
that had slaves in the South

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that well, not a small minority,
but it wasn't minority

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anomic investments economic,
that means they're putting money

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into it, or well, they're

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investing I think what you might
be headed toward is that, well,

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now you have slaves, you don't
have to do the dishes.

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And what that has led me to
understand is that there's this

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broader historical context that
we need to keep in mind when we

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when we're looking at white
woman's voting patterns today.

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And as we look at, you know,
their their support their, you

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know, overwhelming support of
Donald Trump,

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when when a professor is trying
to explain such a heavy topic is

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this and laughs right off the
bat, white women's support of

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Donald Trump's I mean, this is
Berkeley is

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00:26:42,300 --> 00:26:44,790
a tale right there because the
white women support of Donald

454
00:26:44,790 --> 00:26:49,140
Trump was 51%. Yeah, was that
like a major deal?

455
00:26:49,830 --> 00:26:54,090
Is voting patterns today. And as
we look at, you know, their

456
00:26:54,090 --> 00:26:58,890
their support their, you know,
overwhelming support of Donald

457
00:26:58,890 --> 00:27:00,300
Trump. And so

458
00:27:01,650 --> 00:27:02,940
to tell us that left tail,

459
00:27:03,210 --> 00:27:06,270
yeah, but it's not okay. In this
topic. It's not nothing funny

460
00:27:06,300 --> 00:27:07,470
that we

461
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:13,080
women support is 51% I totally
call that a bandwagon. Think

462
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:18,900
of white women as primarily
focusing focusing on their

463
00:27:18,930 --> 00:27:23,130
gendered oppression that because
they are oppressed as women,

464
00:27:23,250 --> 00:27:27,720
that that oppression will allow
for them to ally and to to

465
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,320
sympathize with other
dispossessed and disempowered

466
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:36,300
peoples in the nation. But my my
research actually shows that

467
00:27:36,390 --> 00:27:41,130
they long, long had a deep
investment in white supremacy.

468
00:27:41,130 --> 00:27:44,400
And not only did they benefit
from it, but they participated

469
00:27:44,430 --> 00:27:49,500
in its construction and its
perpetuation she left again, not

470
00:27:49,500 --> 00:27:52,500
just in the context of slavery,
not just in the colonial period,

471
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,780
but well after slavery was over.

472
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,450
So Alice, why do you think that
white women support President

473
00:27:57,450 --> 00:27:59,520
Trump? Do you think they
identify more with being as she

474
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,220
said, white than they do with
being female? She's

475
00:28:02,310 --> 00:28:05,460
also you know, so here it is,
again, we I think we really need

476
00:28:05,460 --> 00:28:07,410
to start listening to some of
the words because there's a

477
00:28:07,410 --> 00:28:11,280
difference between I voted for
him, and I support him. And so

478
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,780
they've kind of taken this 52%
voted for him into they support

479
00:28:15,780 --> 00:28:19,020
him. And this is where we start
to diverge. I think this

480
00:28:19,020 --> 00:28:22,110
Stephanie, woman, I think she
may be the opposite. She's the

481
00:28:22,110 --> 00:28:23,730
white Republican or the white
wall here your

482
00:28:23,730 --> 00:28:26,520
period, but well after slavery
was over.

483
00:28:26,550 --> 00:28:29,190
So Alice, why do you think that
white women support President

484
00:28:29,190 --> 00:28:31,260
Trump? Do you think they
identify more with being as she

485
00:28:31,260 --> 00:28:34,020
said, white than they do with
being female? She just said

486
00:28:34,020 --> 00:28:34,260
that.

487
00:28:34,919 --> 00:28:37,799
But I think when we're talking
about the political arena,

488
00:28:38,249 --> 00:28:41,999
voters, women and men identify
themselves as either Republican,

489
00:28:41,999 --> 00:28:44,729
Democrat, Independent, or
whatever their political party

490
00:28:44,729 --> 00:28:48,449
and I strongly disagree with the
characterization. Stop

491
00:28:48,450 --> 00:28:52,500
right there. I don't identify as
any anything. I just I'm just a

492
00:28:52,500 --> 00:28:57,000
voter. Let me sorry. I just I
reject that out of hand. I'm

493
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,640
just voting I'm not I do not
belong to a party

494
00:28:59,670 --> 00:29:02,010
can Democrat independent thing?
Hold on?

495
00:29:03,300 --> 00:29:06,960
A lot of people do identify with
their party. Sure. And a lot of

496
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,110
people are independent, which
should be you. I don't identify

497
00:29:10,110 --> 00:29:12,420
anything because the parties
have been so screwy that the

498
00:29:12,420 --> 00:29:16,470
independent or independent
numbers have increased to the

499
00:29:16,470 --> 00:29:18,570
point where they have to
everyone has to cater to them,

500
00:29:19,110 --> 00:29:20,880
you know cater to the
Republicans if you're a

501
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,680
Republican because you know,
you're gonna get their votes. So

502
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,890
you cater to these these
independent so called swing

503
00:29:25,890 --> 00:29:28,950
voters and because they can go
either way, their swing, I'm

504
00:29:28,950 --> 00:29:29,220
just

505
00:29:29,250 --> 00:29:34,740
I'm I'm just saying that I
reject someone telling me that I

506
00:29:34,740 --> 00:29:38,310
have to identify with some party
even if it's an if it's

507
00:29:38,310 --> 00:29:40,800
independent. I just identify as
me,

508
00:29:40,860 --> 00:29:44,520
I think when we're talking about
the political arena, voters,

509
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,580
women and men identify
themselves as either Republican,

510
00:29:47,580 --> 00:29:50,280
Democrat, Independent, or
whatever their political party

511
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,360
and I strongly disagree with the
characterization that women are

512
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,940
oppressed and by nature of that
oppression, they should

513
00:29:56,940 --> 00:30:00,450
naturally vote for another group
of people that are Press. I

514
00:30:00,450 --> 00:30:04,140
think that's just not how
politics works. I think as a

515
00:30:04,140 --> 00:30:07,170
republican or democrat or
whatever your political leanings

516
00:30:07,350 --> 00:30:10,740
is, you should vote for people
that represent those policies.

517
00:30:10,770 --> 00:30:14,190
I'm a Republican, I support this
President, I voted for this

518
00:30:14,190 --> 00:30:18,030
President. I did so because of
his policies, I do not agree

519
00:30:18,030 --> 00:30:20,190
with his tone and tenor,
dhanabalan, your

520
00:30:20,190 --> 00:30:22,500
tone and tenor. We got to write
that down. That's what it is

521
00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:23,550
tone and tenor

522
00:30:23,580 --> 00:30:28,590
show dozens and dozens of times.
Discounting his behavior, his

523
00:30:28,590 --> 00:30:31,890
tone, his tactics, the things he
says about women has denigrating

524
00:30:31,890 --> 00:30:35,430
women, and I don't tolerate
that. But this is policies are

525
00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:37,260
what I stand for. But you don't

526
00:30:37,260 --> 00:30:40,440
have to support him. You could
not vote. I mean, that's

527
00:30:40,500 --> 00:30:44,040
this is the this is the white
Democrat, the white woman

528
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,340
Democrat, who now says you could
just not vote, which is also one

529
00:30:47,910 --> 00:30:49,620
way to identify, but this

530
00:30:49,620 --> 00:30:51,450
is policies or what I stand for,

531
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,260
but you don't have to support
him. You could not vote. I mean,

532
00:30:55,260 --> 00:30:58,830
that's the thing. I could say.
There's a Democrat who who does

533
00:30:58,830 --> 00:31:01,290
everything that I agree with,
but they say misogynist or

534
00:31:01,290 --> 00:31:04,620
racist thing, I would not vote
for them. And, and I just want

535
00:31:04,620 --> 00:31:07,290
to step back for a second and
say, Look, we spent a lot of

536
00:31:07,290 --> 00:31:10,800
time talking about Republican
women, that there's a problem

537
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,890
with white women, it doesn't
matter whether they're Democrats

538
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,490
or Republicans or nothing.
There's a problem with racism,

539
00:31:17,490 --> 00:31:22,230
every everybody, every white
person benefits from an

540
00:31:22,230 --> 00:31:23,940
inherently racist system that

541
00:31:23,940 --> 00:31:25,380
is structurally racist.

542
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:31,740
We are all we're all part of the
problem. So to point my finger

543
00:31:31,740 --> 00:31:35,310
at you know, just are you white
point my finger at you or and

544
00:31:35,310 --> 00:31:38,640
another person, but I think we
have to recognize that there are

545
00:31:38,670 --> 00:31:42,480
there's institutional racism in
this country, saying, I'm just

546
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:47,310
gonna support somebody who you
just said says racist things and

547
00:31:47,310 --> 00:31:48,600
does racist things.

548
00:31:48,900 --> 00:31:51,180
You see how that you see, oh,
they're conflate? Well, they're

549
00:31:51,180 --> 00:31:53,520
just talking. They're just
saying that they've no examples,

550
00:31:53,790 --> 00:31:58,860
but they're conflating support
with with voting, and then it's,

551
00:31:58,860 --> 00:32:01,050
you know, it's the tone. I'm
gonna go with this tone. We'll

552
00:32:01,050 --> 00:32:03,600
get back to the Stephanie here
for the last 30 seconds

553
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,840
is a problem. Just a point of
clarification. So I did not say

554
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:11,250
that white women voted for Trump
because they were racist. What I

555
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,770
what I actually said that
there's this broader historical

556
00:32:13,770 --> 00:32:17,670
context in which white supremacy
is quite important to white

557
00:32:17,670 --> 00:32:22,050
women, not simply as the kind of
beneficiaries of white supremacy

558
00:32:22,050 --> 00:32:25,860
but as part orchestrators, part
of the built, you know, the

559
00:32:25,860 --> 00:32:29,280
builders. Yes. So just

560
00:32:29,610 --> 00:32:36,180
women helped build white
supremacy. Help me Help me

561
00:32:36,180 --> 00:32:40,080
understand, John, what is let's
just get some terms. What is

562
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,490
white supremacy.

563
00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:47,520
As the bully I have just off,
just off the top of your head

564
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:53,160
Sure. belief that what the White
Race per se, is superior to the

565
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:54,120
other races.

566
00:32:55,260 --> 00:32:59,280
So what she's saying is that
even today, women

567
00:33:00,660 --> 00:33:02,760
help build the

568
00:33:04,260 --> 00:33:08,100
I believe, I guess that white
people are superior to all other

569
00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:09,900
races. That's what she's saying.

570
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,180
But how would you do that?

571
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:19,770
I guess by voting for a white
guy. Yeah. Okay. In that case,

572
00:33:19,770 --> 00:33:20,700
yeah, I guess,

573
00:33:20,970 --> 00:33:24,720
the kind of beneficiaries of
white supremacy but as part,

574
00:33:24,780 --> 00:33:28,290
orchestrators, part of the bill,
you know, the builders of

575
00:33:29,370 --> 00:33:32,490
supremacy. So just to clarify
that, and I agree totally with

576
00:33:32,490 --> 00:33:37,230
what Kristin said, this is this
is not about simply conservative

577
00:33:37,230 --> 00:33:39,870
white women. This is a
phenomenon that is spread across

578
00:33:39,870 --> 00:33:43,440
the country, whether in the
south or the north, you can see

579
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,050
that this is an it's not an
indictment against all white

580
00:33:46,050 --> 00:33:49,440
women. This is about a certain
you know, a certain percentage

581
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,950
of these white women who do
indeed vote for a man who is

582
00:33:52,980 --> 00:33:56,850
certainly not speaking to their
interests as women or as human

583
00:33:56,850 --> 00:33:57,330
beings.

584
00:33:57,449 --> 00:34:03,179
So I think what she's saying is
you can't vote for someone based

585
00:34:03,179 --> 00:34:10,829
on his policies if if you deem
that person to be hateful

586
00:34:10,829 --> 00:34:13,949
towards women. All right,

587
00:34:13,980 --> 00:34:16,440
are annoying in general it
sounds like

588
00:34:16,470 --> 00:34:21,090
Yes. So you know your point of
course, which you which you made

589
00:34:21,690 --> 00:34:26,520
is well what racism what
misogyny? And so now we go to

590
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,760
the second clip, this was a
fascinating that was meet the

591
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,390
person I know Face the Nation,
MSNBC, you know, that's not to

592
00:34:33,420 --> 00:34:35,100
Face The Nation. Is that CBS?

593
00:34:36,540 --> 00:34:39,240
I think so. Yeah. Not depressing
the NBC

594
00:34:39,420 --> 00:34:44,460
Face the Nation, Dan, because
they had four or five of new new

595
00:34:44,460 --> 00:34:48,480
freshmen coming into the House
of Representatives, including

596
00:34:48,510 --> 00:34:53,490
Dan Crenshaw, and he is the Iraq
veteran who had his was missing

597
00:34:53,490 --> 00:34:57,300
an eye has the eyepatch. He was
the subject of the controversy

598
00:34:57,330 --> 00:34:59,970
on Saturday Night Live, which I
thought actually was kind of saw

599
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,530
In a nice, nice man or the next
week, and nice to him, Well, of

600
00:35:04,530 --> 00:35:07,890
course, it's thanks to him and
I'm liking this guy now. So he's

601
00:35:07,890 --> 00:35:10,680
going to call out this penguin
when I forget who it is another

602
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,460
freshman coming in, says, Well,
you know, and we've heard this a

603
00:35:14,460 --> 00:35:19,950
million times. He's undermining
our democracy. The Democrat,

604
00:35:19,950 --> 00:35:23,640
he's ripping apart. I'm talking
about Trump ripping apart

605
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:28,440
democratic institutions. Orange
Man bad. And so Crenshaw says,

606
00:35:28,710 --> 00:35:32,430
well, could you just give me
some examples? And I thought,

607
00:35:32,430 --> 00:35:34,890
this whole set, although it went
way over everyone's head, I

608
00:35:34,890 --> 00:35:38,430
thought this, I thought the
segment was outstanding, to show

609
00:35:38,430 --> 00:35:42,300
you just how vapid this argument
is.

610
00:35:42,870 --> 00:35:45,840
But you know, my experience thus
far, and I think depth content

611
00:35:45,870 --> 00:35:49,020
before we start off, if someone
said to you, please give me some

612
00:35:49,020 --> 00:35:52,350
examples how Trump is
undermining our democracy, would

613
00:35:52,350 --> 00:35:56,550
you? I mean, just thinking from
a any kind of dimension, what

614
00:35:56,550 --> 00:36:00,030
kind of examples could we come
up with? Well,

615
00:36:01,710 --> 00:36:06,000
yeah, I could. I would say that
by assigning a lot of super

616
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,970
conservative judges and every
bench around,

617
00:36:08,970 --> 00:36:12,180
but is that undermining the
democracy? No. I'm sorry. Yes.

618
00:36:12,180 --> 00:36:14,490
From us. Yeah, you're right.
You're right. You're right. I'm

619
00:36:14,490 --> 00:36:17,730
sorry. My mistake. Yes. Okay. So
conservative judges.

620
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,490
conservative judges is
undermining the democracy.

621
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,690
Yes. Yes, it's right. Yeah,
exactly. What else is

622
00:36:24,690 --> 00:36:28,590
undermining the democracy?
Rushing through the Supreme

623
00:36:28,590 --> 00:36:31,920
Court justices? Okay. Rushing
through. Yeah, that's

624
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:32,580
undermining that

625
00:36:32,580 --> 00:36:38,220
would be undermining democracy.
Be belittling and Jade going

626
00:36:38,220 --> 00:36:42,000
through staffers? too quickly.
There's going through.

627
00:36:42,660 --> 00:36:45,870
Too much firing. Yes. Too much
fire. Fire undermines the

628
00:36:45,870 --> 00:36:50,160
democracy to the firing. Right.
Right. Right. Is cozying up to

629
00:36:50,190 --> 00:36:50,790
Putin?

630
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,390
Oh, yes. Any collusion? Yes.
collusion. Yeah. Yeah.

631
00:36:54,390 --> 00:36:57,120
collusion, cozying up. Yes.
That's undermining our

632
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:57,720
democracy.

633
00:36:58,110 --> 00:37:03,870
Going along with that not not
doing some but the American lit

634
00:37:03,870 --> 00:37:09,330
the, the non American citizen,
but the American resident? Oh,

635
00:37:09,330 --> 00:37:12,870
yes. key term, right. All right,
as not doing something.

636
00:37:14,580 --> 00:37:20,100
So so what you what we realize
here is that none of these are

637
00:37:20,100 --> 00:37:26,070
actual things that undermine our
democracy. And undermining

638
00:37:26,190 --> 00:37:29,400
democracy would be doing
something with the, you know,

639
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,760
the three branches of government
that would really break it, but

640
00:37:32,790 --> 00:37:35,640
an actual undermining, but you
know, maybe they have some

641
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,310
examples. Let's listen to this.
This is a very nice little

642
00:37:38,310 --> 00:37:39,240
conversation. So.

643
00:37:39,690 --> 00:37:42,390
But, you know, my experience
thus far, and I think depth can

644
00:37:42,390 --> 00:37:43,920
touch on this, as well as a
member of the Progressive

645
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,650
Caucus. But no, I don't think
that's the case. I think we are

646
00:37:46,650 --> 00:37:49,860
all working together, rowing in
the same direction, trying to

647
00:37:49,860 --> 00:37:53,880
save our democracy, to be frank
and so save our democracy? Well,

648
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:58,290
look, I think that right now,
it's important for this majority

649
00:37:58,290 --> 00:38:01,860
in the House to engage in some
really critical oversight of an

650
00:38:01,860 --> 00:38:05,100
administration, that is
undermining a lot of critical

651
00:38:05,100 --> 00:38:06,690
freedoms for folks in our
country,

652
00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:10,470
undermining a lot of critical
freedoms for folks that live in

653
00:38:10,470 --> 00:38:11,280
our country.

654
00:38:12,750 --> 00:38:14,250
That's what we need to remember.

655
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,800
So when I say save our
democracy, I mean, precisely

656
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,290
that that I think some of our
democratic freedoms and the

657
00:38:19,290 --> 00:38:20,310
principles that we live by

658
00:38:21,060 --> 00:38:24,120
haven't Do you should we try to
make a list some of our

659
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,030
democratic freedoms that have
gone that are being that are in

660
00:38:27,030 --> 00:38:27,960
harm's way?

661
00:38:28,140 --> 00:38:30,360
I think there aren't any? No, I

662
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,730
think they're all pretty much
intact, including, you know, the

663
00:38:32,730 --> 00:38:36,840
right to go say stupid stuff.
Still kind of okay.

664
00:38:36,870 --> 00:38:38,730
I have been under attack for the
better part of the last two

665
00:38:38,730 --> 00:38:39,420
years. Congressman

666
00:38:39,420 --> 00:38:42,210
elect, do you want to respond to
that since the President has is

667
00:38:42,210 --> 00:38:43,290
the leader of your party?

668
00:38:43,980 --> 00:38:47,340
Well, I always asked the
question like, like what you

669
00:38:47,340 --> 00:38:49,620
know, like, what is he
undermining exactly that you

670
00:38:49,620 --> 00:38:51,870
know, what what democratic
freedoms have been undermined?

671
00:38:51,870 --> 00:38:54,480
Which Senate election where we
switched switch power in the

672
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,470
house? Democracies at work,
people are voting and record

673
00:38:58,470 --> 00:38:58,890
numbers

674
00:38:58,890 --> 00:39:00,480
sounds about right to me.

675
00:39:01,470 --> 00:39:04,440
I always ask for examples, then
we can hit those examples one by

676
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,120
one and if it's an if it's worth
now,

677
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,900
now, are you ready? Just so he's
gonna say, Please give me some

678
00:39:09,900 --> 00:39:13,080
examples. The whole group,
including the host of the

679
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:17,850
moderator of this panel is going
to jump in. And it's just like a

680
00:39:17,850 --> 00:39:22,470
diarrhea of words. And these are
all things that are undermining

681
00:39:22,470 --> 00:39:23,250
our democracy,

682
00:39:23,279 --> 00:39:25,799
eulogizing it's worth
criticizing, but just kind of

683
00:39:25,799 --> 00:39:29,639
this broad brush criticism that
the President is somehow

684
00:39:29,669 --> 00:39:33,089
undermining our democracy. I
always wonder what exactly we're

685
00:39:33,089 --> 00:39:38,729
talking about. All I'm happy to
give your mining of the free

686
00:39:38,730 --> 00:39:44,340
free press and judiciary CIA
under Obama, and

687
00:39:46,740 --> 00:39:49,920
it just got like the FBI CIA
free pass

688
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,800
and was like, I'll be happy and
they can't No one's no one's

689
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,780
actually speaking an entire
sentence.

690
00:39:57,870 --> 00:40:12,900
I always wonder what exactly
we're talking CIA, CIA has many

691
00:40:12,900 --> 00:40:15,180
press members under
investigation Trump has not so

692
00:40:15,180 --> 00:40:17,370
just so what is the what is what
is the difference last

693
00:40:17,370 --> 00:40:20,250
week? We're the largest media
publications in the United

694
00:40:20,250 --> 00:40:22,800
States, right had to go to a
federal court in order to

695
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,520
essentially regain access. One
reporter,

696
00:40:28,110 --> 00:40:30,360
including CBS did file amicus.
That's right.

697
00:40:31,500 --> 00:40:35,760
And they actually believe that
this court case, was it a First

698
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,850
Amendment court case where she
was not, but that's okay. You

699
00:40:38,850 --> 00:40:42,120
know, they really thought Trump
really tried to undermine our

700
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:42,990
democracy with

701
00:40:42,990 --> 00:40:46,830
that support. Yeah. So I mean,
again, I think, obviously, it's

702
00:40:46,830 --> 00:40:49,620
part of much larger because he
was disruptive but Well, again,

703
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,220
I would argue, President is
consistently disruptive in those

704
00:40:53,220 --> 00:40:55,980
very same press conferences. And
I would argue that he told us,

705
00:40:56,220 --> 00:40:57,900
how was that? The Press though?

706
00:40:58,350 --> 00:41:01,320
So how is that undermining our
democracy? And here's an

707
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,410
important one. How is that
attacking the press?

708
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,450
Because it's literally in a
towel. I've

709
00:41:06,450 --> 00:41:08,130
literally been attacked. So I

710
00:41:09,180 --> 00:41:12,270
think this too bad. This kind of
just got glossed over, the guy's

711
00:41:12,270 --> 00:41:16,380
been blown up. He was literally
blown up by an IED. And they

712
00:41:16,380 --> 00:41:19,920
have the gall to say he's
attacking, I feel a talk. He

713
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,410
says I did. I was really
attacked. They're all too

714
00:41:22,410 --> 00:41:24,090
chickenshit and say anything
about it.

715
00:41:24,090 --> 00:41:26,280
It's very same press
conferences. And I would argue

716
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,590
that he chose that and how was
that an attack on the press

717
00:41:28,590 --> 00:41:31,200
though? Because it's literally
in a towel.

718
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,680
I've literally been attacked. So
I choose our words carefully.

719
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,080
Language is an attacker, so why
can't

720
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:41,580
he speak? Why? Why is he not
allowed to use his own language

721
00:41:41,580 --> 00:41:42,390
and freedom of speech?

722
00:41:42,419 --> 00:41:47,099
Ah, okay, now we get to a very
sticky point. Why can the

723
00:41:47,099 --> 00:41:51,509
President not exercise his first
amendment right, and speak

724
00:41:51,509 --> 00:41:52,259
freely?

725
00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:54,630
Well, of course, it's

726
00:41:54,660 --> 00:41:56,100
unpresidential,

727
00:41:56,220 --> 00:41:59,280
because, and you talked about
this, actually, it's important

728
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,570
that we lead for example, that
we look at our president, I

729
00:42:03,570 --> 00:42:03,810
agree

730
00:42:03,810 --> 00:42:05,850
with you there. I agree with
you, their style is one thing if

731
00:42:05,850 --> 00:42:09,960
you wanna criticize style, I'm
with you. Right. But to say it's

732
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,510
an attack on the freedom of the
press. That is a very bold

733
00:42:12,510 --> 00:42:13,020
statement

734
00:42:13,380 --> 00:42:17,610
by calling the press the enemy
of the people, literally, so

735
00:42:17,610 --> 00:42:18,180
the style

736
00:42:18,180 --> 00:42:22,200
I agree, I don't like that one.
Fake News, of course, fake news.

737
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,200
I'll give you another example
undermining us with stigma,

738
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:31,230
his rhetoric about erasing trans
people in our country that

739
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,530
he's erasing trans people.

740
00:42:35,790 --> 00:42:37,380
erased? Well,

741
00:42:37,410 --> 00:42:44,550
it, it appears that eliminating
against the LGBTQ community, and

742
00:42:44,580 --> 00:42:49,320
I think that's troublesome, I
think it's worrisome. We all

743
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:54,840
have communities in it, I mean,
across this country, and then we

744
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,360
mentioned it at the beginning,
ripping children away from their

745
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:57,780
parents.

746
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,470
Those are all things that
undermine our democracy,

747
00:43:01,470 --> 00:43:04,890
me that I absolutely feel that
we have to,

748
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:10,080
you know, follow CIA and the FBI
and the State Department and all

749
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,110
those important institutions
that are fundamental to how our

750
00:43:13,110 --> 00:43:15,510
democracy works, what I feel,
Oh, wait,

751
00:43:15,990 --> 00:43:20,700
intelligence agencies are now
apparently fundamental to how

752
00:43:20,700 --> 00:43:26,250
our democracy works. How about
history started

753
00:43:26,250 --> 00:43:30,120
with Utah at the CIA, which was
founded in 1947, is fundamental

754
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:30,510
to the

755
00:43:30,810 --> 00:43:35,730
Yes. Or the FBI that that
actively sought out people who

756
00:43:35,730 --> 00:43:40,980
are communist to to shame them
and throw them out of the

757
00:43:40,980 --> 00:43:45,420
country lives, ruin their lives.
That's, that's important for our

758
00:43:45,420 --> 00:43:49,980
democracy. If they keep our
democracy working, please, Lady

759
00:43:49,980 --> 00:43:52,050
absolutely feel that we have to

760
00:43:53,790 --> 00:43:57,480
follow CIA and the FBI and the
State Department and all those

761
00:43:57,510 --> 00:44:00,840
important institutions that are
fundamental to how our democracy

762
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:01,290
works. What

763
00:44:01,290 --> 00:44:03,870
I hear a lot is you don't like
what he says and sometimes,

764
00:44:03,900 --> 00:44:06,360
okay, but and you don't like to
deal with policy disagreements,

765
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,850
but you're saying undermining
democracy. And I and I want to I

766
00:44:08,850 --> 00:44:12,060
want to caution us, because
those are very bold words. If we

767
00:44:12,060 --> 00:44:14,430
have policy disagreements, let's
focus on those policy

768
00:44:14,430 --> 00:44:16,950
disagreements. I'll be happy to
discuss those at any point. But

769
00:44:16,950 --> 00:44:19,290
this is what I've been getting
at kind of all week, which is we

770
00:44:19,290 --> 00:44:22,740
tend to we tend to go right at
the jugular, right? We say

771
00:44:22,740 --> 00:44:25,620
you're undermining democracy or
bad person. Fundamentally,

772
00:44:25,830 --> 00:44:28,650
that's not always true. We have
policy disagreements and a lot

773
00:44:28,650 --> 00:44:29,400
of these things.

774
00:44:29,700 --> 00:44:32,010
I think it's interesting that
we've talked about some of the

775
00:44:32,010 --> 00:44:34,500
most divisive issues, including
immigration, but the thing that

776
00:44:34,500 --> 00:44:37,800
set all of you off was the
president. We have to leave the

777
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:42,270
conversation there. Thank you so
much. And your new work and your

778
00:44:42,270 --> 00:44:42,720
new job

779
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,280
this morning, Tina. She always
gives me a rundown of what she's

780
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,680
seeing on Twitter and she said,
if it was

781
00:44:51,060 --> 00:44:56,370
then her boy, Ben, who's had
been mad because the show on Fox

782
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,340
bend and Ben Shapiro, Ben
Shapiro,

783
00:44:59,370 --> 00:45:01,650
you're never show on Fox did he
did yeah, he

784
00:45:01,650 --> 00:45:06,240
had a he had a show. He's gonna
be a fox regular Shapiro. Nobody

785
00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:11,820
likes him as much Shapiro said
that. Interestingly, Trump,

786
00:45:12,270 --> 00:45:16,560
Trump's policies in many ways
are exactly the same as Obama's

787
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:21,390
policies. But and this is his
words. This Shapiro said. And I

788
00:45:21,390 --> 00:45:24,990
know a lot of people agree with
him that because of the way

789
00:45:24,990 --> 00:45:29,670
Trump says it, that's why
everyone goes apeshit and I say

790
00:45:29,700 --> 00:45:34,500
no, if he if he did it the same
way Obama did it. It would be

791
00:45:34,500 --> 00:45:37,650
even worse. The press will be up
in arms that he's doing it

792
00:45:37,650 --> 00:45:42,090
secretly all this evil stuff.
And there is no there's no

793
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,720
there's no way around this style
part of the presentation. It

794
00:45:45,720 --> 00:45:47,550
doesn't make any difference.

795
00:45:48,630 --> 00:45:50,220
I agree with you Yeah.

796
00:45:50,820 --> 00:45:56,430
I mean, there is just a such a
hatred of this guy. Yes, it is.

797
00:45:56,730 --> 00:45:59,010
They can't do anything about
anyway that's the way it is.

798
00:45:59,010 --> 00:46:13,950
What can they do? Let's catch up
to the Acosta situation this is

799
00:46:13,950 --> 00:46:16,470
the Acosta up That's funny.
That's good play a caster

800
00:46:16,470 --> 00:46:16,920
update.

801
00:46:17,879 --> 00:46:20,369
Oops misfired Acosta up this
morning.

802
00:46:20,370 --> 00:46:23,820
CNN is asking for an emergency
hearing. This is after the White

803
00:46:23,820 --> 00:46:27,180
House is worn that they may pull
our colleague Jim Acosta's press

804
00:46:27,180 --> 00:46:28,560
pass again, or you

805
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,870
thought this was all settled
last week? Well, on Friday, the

806
00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:33,630
network won a temporary
restraining order forcing the

807
00:46:33,630 --> 00:46:36,360
White House to restore conscious
credentials for 14 days. But

808
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,330
just after that, White House
officials sent Acosta a letter

809
00:46:39,330 --> 00:46:42,840
saying they may suspend his
password. Once that order

810
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,750
expires. CNN CHIEF media
correspondent Brian Stelter is

811
00:46:45,750 --> 00:46:49,200
with us. So TR O 's temporary
restraining orders by nature,

812
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:53,280
they last for two weeks, 14
days. That's all the time you

813
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:59,160
have. So CNN wants here, the
judge to move to a more lasting

814
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,650
decision, a temporary
injunction? Yes,

815
00:47:01,649 --> 00:47:04,739
CNN was victorious in round one
I said on Friday, we don't know

816
00:47:04,739 --> 00:47:06,989
how many rounds there's going to
be. Looks like there's going to

817
00:47:06,989 --> 00:47:09,089
be many rounds in this legal
battle. Do you

818
00:47:09,089 --> 00:47:12,809
notice that no one seems to be
giving any details on the battle

819
00:47:12,809 --> 00:47:13,829
itself, because

820
00:47:13,950 --> 00:47:16,500
almost as soon as that temporary
restraining order was put into

821
00:47:16,500 --> 00:47:19,350
effect on Friday, Bill shine and
Sarah Sanders, two of the

822
00:47:19,350 --> 00:47:22,470
defendants in the lawsuit sent a
letter to a casa two page letter

823
00:47:22,470 --> 00:47:25,560
that I have here that
essentially lays the groundwork

824
00:47:25,620 --> 00:47:28,530
to take the press pass and
revoke it again, which will

825
00:47:28,530 --> 00:47:30,990
essentially be at the end of the
month, you know, 11 days from

826
00:47:30,990 --> 00:47:31,440
today.

827
00:47:32,580 --> 00:47:34,380
Yeah, yeah, I

828
00:47:34,380 --> 00:47:37,500
really this is such a, there's
such liars. This is such a

829
00:47:37,500 --> 00:47:40,200
disservice to the viewership to
people who are interested in

830
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,500
what's going on. And you have to
go, you actually have to get

831
00:47:43,500 --> 00:47:48,270
through the Wall Street Journal
paywall to be able to read

832
00:47:48,270 --> 00:47:51,630
actually what's going on unless
you know where to find a, you

833
00:47:51,630 --> 00:47:53,820
know, a docket and actual
paperwork.

834
00:47:53,850 --> 00:47:56,850
If you go to a private browser,
sometimes you ever brave X is

835
00:47:56,850 --> 00:47:57,690
quite good for that. But

836
00:47:57,690 --> 00:48:00,930
I'm just saying that no one
seems to want to talk about you

837
00:48:00,930 --> 00:48:04,200
know, what the the restraining
order was about it was it was

838
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,440
not a First Amendment
discussion. You know, they're

839
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,560
not even at that level in great
detail. I know. I just want to

840
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,960
make sure people hear it again.
I want to make sure people hear

841
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,020
it. Again, this was not a First
Amendment case, a court case, a

842
00:48:16,020 --> 00:48:21,060
court case now yet at least. But
there's a solution. There's a

843
00:48:21,060 --> 00:48:26,040
solution to this because this is
this is unless you have another

844
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:27,810
clip that I'd like to play a Oh,

845
00:48:29,010 --> 00:48:33,090
you thought you'd I thought you
had I do something to read the

846
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,040
do thing in front of you or
something I got

847
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,460
no, I have a clip. I have a
solution clip the solution to

848
00:48:38,460 --> 00:48:44,160
the issue of the White House
press events. Carl Bernstein,

849
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:52,530
very famous man. He wrote the
No, he didn't write and he the

850
00:48:52,530 --> 00:48:55,830
Washington the great uncovering
of Watergate along with

851
00:48:57,180 --> 00:48:59,700
Ben and Woodward, Carl Bernstein
who

852
00:48:59,700 --> 00:49:02,790
by that I put in the show notes
again, who know has has

853
00:49:02,790 --> 00:49:06,240
published on his own blog, which
still exists today. How many

854
00:49:06,240 --> 00:49:10,590
people in the press were working
for CIA including himself? But

855
00:49:10,590 --> 00:49:14,040
here's his idea. It's it's a
fix. It will save democracy,

856
00:49:14,070 --> 00:49:17,190
we need to start thinking of a
different way to cover his press

857
00:49:17,190 --> 00:49:20,640
conferences and briefings. For
instance, I don't think we

858
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,790
should be taking them live all
the time, and just pasting them

859
00:49:23,790 --> 00:49:28,140
up on the air because they're
basically propagandist exercises

860
00:49:28,140 --> 00:49:34,590
because they are overwhelmed by
his dishonesty and lying. So how

861
00:49:34,590 --> 00:49:40,200
could we cover them differently?
Maybe we should be there. Edit,

862
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,850
decide as reporters what is news
and after the press conference

863
00:49:44,850 --> 00:49:48,000
or briefing is over? Then go
with that story with clips

864
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:52,260
rather than treating the
briefing or press conference as

865
00:49:52,260 --> 00:49:53,190
a campaign event?

866
00:49:53,310 --> 00:49:56,250
I think this is a grand idea.
Let us know

867
00:49:56,250 --> 00:49:57,870
what we do. Let's come on. No

868
00:49:57,870 --> 00:50:02,700
let's let's come back propagate.
Under with actual propaganda of

869
00:50:02,700 --> 00:50:05,910
editing clips down and
presenting it in a certain

870
00:50:05,910 --> 00:50:08,580
light, yeah, you would love
that. But he's going to take it

871
00:50:08,580 --> 00:50:12,570
even further. Because, you know,
we can still keep democracy

872
00:50:12,570 --> 00:50:17,100
alive through this thing called,
oh, what is it website,

873
00:50:17,130 --> 00:50:20,520
which they really are in which
we did in the campaign as well,

874
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,400
we gave him all this free
airtime on cable news,

875
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,060
especially, we need to start
treating it like a news event

876
00:50:27,060 --> 00:50:32,100
and look, in cable, we have
websites, you can put up to the

877
00:50:32,100 --> 00:50:36,570
total press conference on our
website so that everybody has

878
00:50:36,570 --> 00:50:39,870
the chance to see it or the
briefing. And we ought as long

879
00:50:39,870 --> 00:50:42,900
as we can provide the spin to
it. It's a matter of record. And

880
00:50:42,900 --> 00:50:47,700
we can be the place of record so
everybody can see every word if

881
00:50:47,700 --> 00:50:51,510
they want it. But we need to
start editing Yes. Here's the

882
00:50:51,510 --> 00:50:55,980
story, not just give him a
microphone, when we know that

883
00:50:55,980 --> 00:51:00,960
his methodology is to engage in
manipulate us on the basis of

884
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,360
lying, propaganda and an
entrepreneur.

885
00:51:03,450 --> 00:51:05,880
There it is, ladies and
gentlemen, what was his last

886
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,830
word? Propaganda? Oh, no.

887
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,220
We need to set his mouth. And
your property has to engage in

888
00:51:14,220 --> 00:51:18,030
manipulate us on the basis of
lying propaganda and

889
00:51:18,060 --> 00:51:23,970
entrepreneurs. Would Anthro
cathro prop up? Hills Anthro

890
00:51:23,970 --> 00:51:24,450
props,

891
00:51:24,450 --> 00:51:27,570
I thought it was magic magic
prop. That's what I thought he

892
00:51:27,570 --> 00:51:28,290
said as

893
00:51:28,290 --> 00:51:31,080
a prop at first, but then I hear
it again. It's something I've

894
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,830
never heard never heard this
word and through pop. I don't

895
00:51:34,830 --> 00:51:38,550
know what he's saying I have no
idea. So he should put his words

896
00:51:38,550 --> 00:51:40,590
on it website so we can
understand what he's talking

897
00:51:40,590 --> 00:51:40,740
about.

898
00:51:40,740 --> 00:51:44,760
But the but for this is the guy
that many of today's journalists

899
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,130
will say, Oh, I got in, I want
to become a journalist, because

900
00:51:47,130 --> 00:51:50,400
I want to be like Woodward and
Bernstein. And here he is

901
00:51:50,430 --> 00:51:55,680
advocating for editing out any
context. And just hey, here's

902
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,310
the story. And we'll play you a
clip in which is, I remember

903
00:51:59,310 --> 00:52:02,790
growing up, we were moving
towards something very

904
00:52:02,790 --> 00:52:06,870
dangerous. It was called the
news bite. The sound bite I'm

905
00:52:06,870 --> 00:52:10,500
sorry, the sound bite news
reporting, sound bite news

906
00:52:10,500 --> 00:52:12,900
reporting. And everyone
recognize that is universally

907
00:52:12,900 --> 00:52:16,290
bad. And this must have been
1520 years ago, maybe even a

908
00:52:16,290 --> 00:52:17,010
little longer,

909
00:52:17,340 --> 00:52:19,320
longer. And, you know,

910
00:52:19,470 --> 00:52:23,730
this is what it is. The problem
is the internet has actually

911
00:52:23,730 --> 00:52:28,260
given us the opposite of that.
We can go to a website called CI

912
00:52:28,260 --> 00:52:31,350
C span. And you can get the
whole

913
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,360
everything in its entirety in
context. And he doesn't like

914
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:42,720
that. No, he's but he's not the
bastion of journalism. Let me

915
00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:42,990
not say

916
00:52:43,230 --> 00:52:47,400
anything about him. He wasn't
even in the news. As a as a high

917
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,910
profile character recently, I
mean, he wasn't you know, when

918
00:52:51,270 --> 00:52:56,610
in the 60s and 70s. But then he
got he kept seeing Woodward

919
00:52:56,610 --> 00:52:57,750
coming up with these thick

920
00:52:57,780 --> 00:53:01,410
books. He was getting screwed on
the whole deal.

921
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:06,210
And he wasn't getting this
action and so he chimed in as

922
00:53:06,210 --> 00:53:11,010
worse is like a left wing
fanatic is It is fascinating to

923
00:53:11,010 --> 00:53:14,850
watch him go on and on about one
thing or another because all

924
00:53:14,850 --> 00:53:15,870
very slanted.

925
00:53:17,310 --> 00:53:20,190
I just found this to be very

926
00:53:22,410 --> 00:53:26,460
disturbing that that he would
suggest that we have to chop it

927
00:53:26,460 --> 00:53:29,340
up and just play clips. And
pretty much I mean, we know what

928
00:53:29,340 --> 00:53:32,820
that means. I mean, he's saying
he's saying you have to be it

929
00:53:32,820 --> 00:53:35,970
has to be Annette. We can't give
him a microphone because I guess

930
00:53:35,970 --> 00:53:40,320
the people can't parse what he's
saying themselves. I mean,

931
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:44,220
that's what he's saying. Yeah,
you're too stupid. It's too

932
00:53:44,220 --> 00:53:45,120
stupid. You're thinking

933
00:53:47,460 --> 00:53:50,190
for the for the monarca goal.
Yes,

934
00:53:50,220 --> 00:53:54,090
yes. Yeah. For dictated for
dictatorships. Yeah,

935
00:53:54,390 --> 00:54:00,480
he's advocating for that. Yeah.
Okay. Well, it's insane. Coming

936
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,850
from him. Well,

937
00:54:03,420 --> 00:54:06,510
he's been kind of all he's been
kind of unhinged for quite a

938
00:54:06,510 --> 00:54:07,500
while. It seems to me

939
00:54:07,530 --> 00:54:12,480
that it goes so unchallenged.
Brian seltzer waters sitting

940
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,370
right there. Oh, yeah, that's
great idea.

941
00:54:14,370 --> 00:54:16,920
We should do that. Yeah, they're
all in the same boat. So

942
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,520
we can't let people decide for
themselves now.

943
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:22,800
This is why they want them on

944
00:54:23,100 --> 00:54:25,800
Twitter. Thanks, everybody.
Yeah, that's gonna be a great

945
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,420
president. If it wasn't for
Twitter.

946
00:54:27,450 --> 00:54:31,500
Yeah. Wouldn't be president if
it wasn't for Twitter. That's

947
00:54:31,500 --> 00:54:32,070
the point

948
00:54:32,100 --> 00:54:34,530
here. I got the AOC.

949
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:39,990
I saw. Is this her latest? Yes.
A civics lesson or we need a

950
00:54:39,990 --> 00:54:44,100
jingle. We need a jingle civics
with AOC. Yeah,

951
00:54:44,130 --> 00:54:49,020
to make sure that we take back
all three cheese. Is that is

952
00:54:49,020 --> 00:54:52,590
that should we and if we work
our butts off, to make sure that

953
00:54:52,590 --> 00:54:56,010
we take back all three chambers
of Congress, rather all three

954
00:54:56,010 --> 00:54:58,890
chambers of government, the
presidency, the senate and the

955
00:54:58,890 --> 00:55:03,960
house in 2020. If we can't start
working in 2020

956
00:55:05,279 --> 00:55:07,499
Okay, first of all, there's
something wrong with your clips,

957
00:55:07,499 --> 00:55:09,449
because I don't know what's
happening with the beginning.

958
00:55:09,449 --> 00:55:12,539
But it's like, that was a
mistake. Now that's happened a

959
00:55:12,539 --> 00:55:13,319
lot lately.

960
00:55:13,349 --> 00:55:15,569
No, it happened. I'll tell you
what it is, if you want to know

961
00:55:15,599 --> 00:55:20,789
Yes. When you start up, I'm
pulling clips from the from the

962
00:55:20,789 --> 00:55:23,999
internet as opposed to off the
over quarter that used to do it.

963
00:55:25,439 --> 00:55:30,479
Because it's more efficient. And
it's not every clip, but

964
00:55:30,479 --> 00:55:32,939
everyone's who had that clip,
which was should have been cut

965
00:55:32,939 --> 00:55:35,399
that beginning part that you're
bitching about, should have been

966
00:55:35,399 --> 00:55:38,399
cut out by me when I did the
edit on the final clip, and you

967
00:55:38,399 --> 00:55:42,059
wouldn't have said anything.
Yeah, for some stupid reason, I

968
00:55:42,059 --> 00:55:46,769
export the entire audio file
instead of just select it. So

969
00:55:46,769 --> 00:55:49,799
that was my fault. Yeah, but
okay, well, now what you're

970
00:55:49,799 --> 00:55:51,659
taught, I know what you're
talking about when you're

971
00:55:51,659 --> 00:55:54,089
talking about it, because I have
left it in on a number of clips,

972
00:55:54,089 --> 00:55:54,629
because I said,

973
00:55:56,040 --> 00:56:02,580
Okay, I hear it all the time.
You hear it? Well, let's just

974
00:56:02,580 --> 00:56:06,840
play a clip and see if it's on
there. All right, no, no, let's

975
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,270
not let's let's deconstruct what
she just said. So people

976
00:56:09,270 --> 00:56:13,440
understand. She says all let's
just let's just take it step by

977
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,890
step. I want our non Americans
and many Americans themselves to

978
00:56:16,890 --> 00:56:20,250
understand why this is so
ridiculous coming from someone

979
00:56:20,250 --> 00:56:22,740
who is in the House of
Representatives, make sure

980
00:56:22,740 --> 00:56:27,690
that we take back all three
cheese. Is that? Is that should

981
00:56:27,690 --> 00:56:31,350
we and if we work our butts off,
to make sure that we take back

982
00:56:31,350 --> 00:56:33,000
all three chambers of Congress.

983
00:56:33,030 --> 00:56:35,670
Okay. So she starts off by
saying all three chambers of

984
00:56:35,670 --> 00:56:40,290
Congress, you can say Congress,
not the Congress, we use a

985
00:56:40,290 --> 00:56:43,950
Congress, which is made up of
the House of Representatives and

986
00:56:43,950 --> 00:56:46,440
the Senate. I do not believe
there's a third chamber of

987
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:47,130
Congress.

988
00:56:47,250 --> 00:56:54,420
There's yes there is there is a
bathroom. A chamber chamber. So

989
00:56:54,420 --> 00:56:56,820
the Chamber of Commerce is down
there in the basement. So

990
00:56:56,820 --> 00:57:00,420
now she corrects herself. And
she correctly says, I mean, it's

991
00:57:00,420 --> 00:57:03,510
really the three branches of
government but she tries to she

992
00:57:03,510 --> 00:57:06,330
tries to make it right by saying
the three chambers of government

993
00:57:06,330 --> 00:57:09,120
I'll give her that rather all
three chambers of government and

994
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:13,680
the three I've always learned
branches of government, which is

995
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:20,370
the judicial, the legislative,
which is where she is, and the

996
00:57:20,370 --> 00:57:23,220
executive. Those are the three
this is something we learn when

997
00:57:23,220 --> 00:57:26,910
we're you learned seven years
seven, eight years old.

998
00:57:27,270 --> 00:57:30,990
Here we go you're learning real
early or you used to do what you

999
00:57:30,990 --> 00:57:33,840
used to I don't think it's being
taught because she does never

1000
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:34,350
learned it.

1001
00:57:35,010 --> 00:57:38,130
Rather all three chambers of
government, the presidency, the

1002
00:57:38,130 --> 00:57:40,020
senate and the house in 2020.

1003
00:57:40,230 --> 00:57:44,550
She just kind of forgot she made
the Senate and the House of

1004
00:57:44,550 --> 00:57:49,080
Representatives, two of the
branches and just left out the

1005
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,630
one she should be bitching out
the boast which is judicial.

1006
00:57:53,250 --> 00:57:56,610
Yes. Now she and she leaves this
stuff up to which I think is

1007
00:57:56,610 --> 00:57:57,270
brave.

1008
00:57:57,900 --> 00:58:03,180
But this is going to be a while
you know, as long as she's not

1009
00:58:03,180 --> 00:58:06,420
gonna let this continue. I'm
telling you, they're gonna have

1010
00:58:06,420 --> 00:58:09,210
a talk to her or something she's
gonna you know, tell her to stop

1011
00:58:09,210 --> 00:58:09,630
doing this

1012
00:58:09,630 --> 00:58:12,930
young lady has a presidential
futures what I'm going to tell

1013
00:58:12,930 --> 00:58:13,650
you right now,

1014
00:58:13,830 --> 00:58:18,210
this is a kind of personally fun
for the no agenda show. Now this

1015
00:58:18,210 --> 00:58:18,600
kind of

1016
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,360
person has an absolute chance to
become president.

1017
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,690
Not because of this, what she
said. Just the whole,

1018
00:58:28,020 --> 00:58:33,030
everything, everything about
people love her. Love her.

1019
00:58:33,180 --> 00:58:36,780
And when I is so easy to
ridicule, she has zero chance of

1020
00:58:36,780 --> 00:58:39,720
getting any further she's
gotten. Okay, she is a

1021
00:58:39,780 --> 00:58:41,280
laughingstock because

1022
00:58:41,310 --> 00:58:46,020
that's what they said about
Donald Trump. Yes, they did. So

1023
00:58:46,170 --> 00:58:48,990
all you need is the media which
who are not covering her. So

1024
00:58:48,990 --> 00:58:51,540
that's, you know, once that
happens, she has a real good

1025
00:58:51,540 --> 00:58:53,400
shot. She has a real shot.
Remember,

1026
00:58:53,430 --> 00:58:56,190
people say, Well, I like this.
Devin. Eddie wants to run for

1027
00:58:56,190 --> 00:59:00,150
president. All right now who's
the latest guy this? Bloomberg.

1028
00:59:00,150 --> 00:59:02,430
He's gonna run for president
Bloomberg. He has Bloomberg

1029
00:59:02,430 --> 00:59:06,570
Bloomberg. Bloomberg. And he is
you know, the difference between

1030
00:59:06,750 --> 00:59:09,300
this celebrity guys a celebrity
running for president if you

1031
00:59:09,300 --> 00:59:11,190
take a look who how many
celebrities have been President,

1032
00:59:11,190 --> 00:59:14,280
we have Reagan. We've had
Eisenhower.

1033
00:59:14,700 --> 00:59:16,620
He was a celebrity. Oh, yeah, of
course he was. He was a

1034
00:59:16,620 --> 00:59:17,520
celebrity shit.

1035
00:59:17,759 --> 00:59:24,719
I think yeah. You have Trump l
these guys had a an enormous

1036
00:59:24,749 --> 00:59:28,679
amount of public profile. Yeah.
before they ever became

1037
00:59:28,679 --> 00:59:32,579
president. And fact Reagan had
as much before he became

1038
00:59:32,579 --> 00:59:36,329
governor of California, which he
I should be out, I think

1039
00:59:36,329 --> 00:59:41,219
outshone trumped by quite a bit.
Because he was doing, you know,

1040
00:59:41,219 --> 00:59:44,909
the 60, mule train thing. He was
doing these speeches, he had a

1041
00:59:44,909 --> 00:59:48,419
TV show. He was in the movies
for years and years and years.

1042
00:59:48,869 --> 00:59:51,539
And then he became the end he
was the head of the Screen

1043
00:59:51,539 --> 00:59:54,239
Actors Guild is a former die.
Yeah, that's right. That's

1044
00:59:54,239 --> 00:59:57,179
right. He's former Democrat
turned Republican

1045
00:59:57,450 --> 01:00:00,900
politics however, it's by
today's day admits which is very

1046
01:00:00,900 --> 01:00:04,830
different. Today's media
landscape is not the same. I

1047
01:00:04,830 --> 01:00:10,650
would say AOC Alexandria Ocasio
Cortez is a big time celebrity

1048
01:00:10,770 --> 01:00:15,600
for Democrats. Big time. Big
time, Jen Briony, who has a

1049
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:20,760
level head on her shoulders,
hoo, hoo, hoo dice, who? If she

1050
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:24,600
heard these words come out of
anyone else's mouth, including a

1051
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,720
Democrat. She would ridicule
them because she does

1052
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:31,710
congressional dish. She knows
very well, how government works.

1053
01:00:31,710 --> 01:00:35,820
She knows her civics. She goes
on Twitter and says I love this

1054
01:00:35,820 --> 01:00:36,270
girl.

1055
01:00:36,330 --> 01:00:39,210
Wow, love this cow. So

1056
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,570
that's the past, you know, it
does not matter what comes out

1057
01:00:42,570 --> 01:00:45,180
of the mouth, as long as it
sounds good. That's,

1058
01:00:45,210 --> 01:00:48,600
it's just ridiculous. Well,
that's what you're saying is

1059
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:55,560
ridiculous. Sadly. Now, back to
the celebrity thing. Trump had

1060
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,920
this, you know, this TV show
that was a big hit. And he was

1061
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:02,850
known forever. I mean, he's been
always on Letterman. He made a

1062
01:01:02,850 --> 01:01:06,420
lot of TV appearances, bragging
about himself, mostly, but he

1063
01:01:06,420 --> 01:01:10,110
was doing a lot of work.
Bloomberg, you know, does not

1064
01:01:10,110 --> 01:01:14,100
have this profile he does in New
York, zero. Now he has no

1065
01:01:14,100 --> 01:01:18,510
problem Berg news service. But
when you see him now he's an

1066
01:01:18,510 --> 01:01:24,030
annoying guy. He's boring. lib.
And he's apparently very short.

1067
01:01:27,090 --> 01:01:29,130
Well, not want

1068
01:01:29,130 --> 01:01:31,320
to say the bad about people this
short, because apparently

1069
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,630
Bloomberg is like five one or
something like that.

1070
01:01:33,660 --> 01:01:34,980
Oh, my gosh.

1071
01:01:37,110 --> 01:01:37,950
Petite me. No,

1072
01:01:37,950 --> 01:01:41,130
but your point. Yeah, I think
your point is well made. But in

1073
01:01:41,130 --> 01:01:44,310
today's world, you don't have to
be a celebrity for very

1074
01:01:44,310 --> 01:01:49,260
long. You can't stay a celebrity
for very long if you're an AOC.

1075
01:01:49,500 --> 01:01:56,100
Because if you wears then you're
basically an idiot. She is not a

1076
01:01:56,100 --> 01:01:59,550
bright girl. She has got big
eyes and a nice smile and she's

1077
01:01:59,550 --> 01:02:05,190
photogenic telegenic. And she's
excitable. Yeah. And so she's

1078
01:02:05,190 --> 01:02:08,430
kind of you know, attractive to
the camera, and people

1079
01:02:08,460 --> 01:02:11,340
will follow her just like they
follow other people on

1080
01:02:11,340 --> 01:02:14,100
Instagram. They will follow her
and they will love her for it

1081
01:02:14,100 --> 01:02:15,210
and they will vote for her

1082
01:02:15,210 --> 01:02:20,520
PewDiePie runs for president
then you're talking. All right.

1083
01:02:21,420 --> 01:02:23,820
Look, we don't have to agree. I
think she is a definite

1084
01:02:23,820 --> 01:02:29,280
candidate for presidency in our
lifetime. She is a celebrity and

1085
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:33,030
she is a modern day celebrity.
And as long as she has an

1086
01:02:33,030 --> 01:02:36,300
Instagram account will remain a
celebrity and people will love

1087
01:02:36,300 --> 01:02:39,120
her for it. It's the it's the
political version of the

1088
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:40,110
Kardashians.

1089
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:46,800
It works. Just that's just my
opinion. Yeah, I don't think

1090
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,020
it's I don't think it's I don't
think it's comparable to

1091
01:02:49,620 --> 01:02:50,040
previous

1092
01:02:50,550 --> 01:02:53,190
job because she went door to
pretty much door to door

1093
01:02:53,190 --> 01:02:56,010
condemning the other guy was
never even in the neighborhood

1094
01:02:56,010 --> 01:02:59,880
and it didn't get take long for
to win. That's not gonna work.

1095
01:02:59,970 --> 01:03:02,490
Yeah, look, I received a grant
bull crap.

1096
01:03:02,549 --> 01:03:04,889
So the thing is, I respect what
you're saying. You just can't

1097
01:03:04,889 --> 01:03:06,959
say okay, maybe you're right.
You say you know, I

1098
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:10,560
can't because you're not right.
Okay, no, and in this case, I

1099
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,080
know I've done it a million
times. Don't give me that.

1100
01:03:13,110 --> 01:03:15,210
You've heard me say, Well, yeah,
you could be right. As long as

1101
01:03:15,210 --> 01:03:18,780
you you make a good point. No,
when you're not is when it's not

1102
01:03:18,780 --> 01:03:22,680
even possible. I'm not gonna
give you the benefit of the

1103
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,530
doubt. He's an idiot.

1104
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,140
That will just remind you, I'll
go back and I'll get the tape

1105
01:03:28,290 --> 01:03:31,770
because we have actual real real
tape of the show. And I will I

1106
01:03:31,770 --> 01:03:34,230
will play you the segment where
I said Donald Trump is going to

1107
01:03:34,230 --> 01:03:36,270
become president and you save
naff

1108
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:39,540
dough. Don't you find that I'll
be stung.

1109
01:03:39,569 --> 01:03:43,649
You got it. Moving on. I would
like to thank you for your

1110
01:03:43,649 --> 01:03:47,009
courage and say in the morning
to you John C where the C stands

1111
01:03:47,009 --> 01:03:49,889
for? Can't be president. Devorah
ag

1112
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:53,880
Hello, me.

1113
01:03:55,350 --> 01:03:56,490
Singing in the morning

1114
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,800
I did. I said thank you and I
did a whole thing. You didn't

1115
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:01,410
hear me? No. This is where you
say in the morning.

1116
01:04:01,770 --> 01:04:05,310
Oh. In the morning in the
morning in the morning Adam

1117
01:04:05,310 --> 01:04:07,500
curry also in the morning girl
she boots on the ground feet

1118
01:04:07,500 --> 01:04:09,180
near so I was on one all the day
was nights out there

1119
01:04:10,350 --> 01:04:14,880
in the morning to the troll
room. That is no agenda

1120
01:04:14,910 --> 01:04:19,320
stream.com where we still have
some trolls hanging out on this

1121
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,980
Thanksgiving. Day show.
Thanksgiving Day show

1122
01:04:22,980 --> 01:04:25,740
celebration. Good to see you all
here.

1123
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,400
They they have a meal tonight.

1124
01:04:29,820 --> 01:04:35,280
No, John, I'm not cooking the
meal. Because, you know, I have

1125
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:37,230
to do a show because you're not
cooking a meal.

1126
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:39,120
Remember,

1127
01:04:39,390 --> 01:04:42,030
I was somebody's cooking the
meal? Yes. It was supposed to be

1128
01:04:42,030 --> 01:04:43,680
me. Oh,

1129
01:04:45,060 --> 01:04:49,080
in the morning to Darren O'Neal
to stop. I'm annoyed about it.

1130
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,860
Stop. Just stop. I'm not cooking
the meal. Tina's cooking the

1131
01:04:52,860 --> 01:04:56,730
meal because I'm not cooking the
meal because of you in the

1132
01:04:56,730 --> 01:04:59,040
morning to Darren O'Neill who
brought us the artwork for

1133
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:03,810
episode 10 A g7 kipi hummus is
how I pronounce it thank you to

1134
01:05:03,810 --> 01:05:06,990
every Jew in the world who sent
me an audio clip of how to

1135
01:05:06,990 --> 01:05:13,020
pronounce pronounce Hamas in
Arabic or in Hebrew. We're in

1136
01:05:13,020 --> 01:05:14,760
America here so I'll say Hamas

1137
01:05:16,170 --> 01:05:18,630
how many I got? You're not
pronouncing Hamas right

1138
01:05:19,620 --> 01:05:20,640
what do you suppose to say

1139
01:05:20,670 --> 01:05:26,700
homeless tomorrow homeless
homeless? Yeah,

1140
01:05:27,149 --> 01:05:31,019
sir I think it was it Sir Brian
of London maybe I think every

1141
01:05:31,049 --> 01:05:34,259
every Jew producer we have in
Israel and I'm saying it that

1142
01:05:34,259 --> 01:05:37,199
way specifically sending me
you're not pronouncing it right.

1143
01:05:38,340 --> 01:05:47,820
Like ah how do you say Germany
Deutschland course homeless?

1144
01:05:48,900 --> 01:05:52,500
Well we say Hamas in the United
States and we say Germany we're

1145
01:05:52,530 --> 01:05:54,750
the only our show says
Deutschland is kind of a

1146
01:05:54,750 --> 01:05:55,350
gimmick.

1147
01:05:56,610 --> 01:06:00,330
I want to thank Darren for his
artwork, which there was a lot

1148
01:06:00,330 --> 01:06:04,380
of things we could choose from.
But we really liked it. Of

1149
01:06:04,380 --> 01:06:08,310
course, a lot of people had to
hippie homeless as artwork. So

1150
01:06:08,310 --> 01:06:11,220
we went with no agenda sports
radio, your number one resource

1151
01:06:11,220 --> 01:06:14,610
for sports ball news. Yes.

1152
01:06:14,670 --> 01:06:17,220
It's a tribute to your changing
your whole attitude about

1153
01:06:17,220 --> 01:06:19,950
sports. Yes. Including a sports
report today.

1154
01:06:19,980 --> 01:06:23,070
Yes, yes. Yes. Right. Yeah, I
had another sports report is

1155
01:06:23,070 --> 01:06:27,840
fantastic. And I defended the
sport and I I follow and I

1156
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,900
report on defended today. Yes.

1157
01:06:31,140 --> 01:06:33,630
I think you have every right to
defend a sport that you report

1158
01:06:33,630 --> 01:06:33,900
on.

1159
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:39,510
And thank you to all of the
artists who have submitted

1160
01:06:39,510 --> 01:06:42,180
artwork we use it for a variety
of things. I think we may even

1161
01:06:42,180 --> 01:06:45,240
have a little note I think we
got a note from the no agenda

1162
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:49,590
shop dot guys. Did you see that?
Come in? No. I have to see if

1163
01:06:49,590 --> 01:06:53,040
it's any well, they they're
changing the way they split the

1164
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:56,010
money because the way it works
is if you upload something no

1165
01:06:56,010 --> 01:07:00,030
agenda art generator.com. If
it's used for any of the no

1166
01:07:00,030 --> 01:07:06,720
agenda, shop.com schwag and
goodies. Oh, shoot. There you

1167
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:10,080
go. Tony Cabrera number one on
the list here. We can read it

1168
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:11,040
verbatim. And

1169
01:07:11,940 --> 01:07:15,210
I'll do that right now. Thank
our officers, Associate

1170
01:07:15,210 --> 01:07:21,480
Executive Producers show 1088
leading to show 1089 which is 33

1171
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:25,560
squared 33 squares so anything
you can come up with for

1172
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:32,160
donation that represents 33
squared is welcome. 20 Cabrera

1173
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:36,420
to the $914.96 It's a good
amount. ITM John anatomy I

1174
01:07:36,420 --> 01:07:38,670
finally got time to calculate
your latest share of the nose

1175
01:07:38,670 --> 01:07:41,790
gender shop.com profits after
spending 10 hours this weekend

1176
01:07:41,790 --> 01:07:46,470
calculating totals, I realized I
had to modify the 33% which by

1177
01:07:46,470 --> 01:07:50,100
the way, time squared is 1089.
Instead of calculating net

1178
01:07:50,100 --> 01:07:52,440
profits on each item, which
which vary.

1179
01:07:53,220 --> 01:07:55,890
Let's read this slowly. Let me
do it. Because I've already read

1180
01:07:55,890 --> 01:08:00,240
the whole note. It's important
because we have this model where

1181
01:08:00,270 --> 01:08:05,220
artists show and the no agenda
shop Tony I guess, guys, that we

1182
01:08:05,220 --> 01:08:07,170
all split this and we have
nothing to do with it. We

1183
01:08:07,170 --> 01:08:09,540
believe it we don't look at your
accounting we trust it. You'd

1184
01:08:09,540 --> 01:08:14,610
914 96 Love it. Thank you very
much. Here's what's changing. He

1185
01:08:14,610 --> 01:08:17,370
says it's important after
spending 10 hours this weekend

1186
01:08:17,370 --> 01:08:21,060
calculating totals, I realized I
had to modify the three way

1187
01:08:21,060 --> 01:08:26,280
split model a 33% for 33 for the
show 33 for the artists 33 For

1188
01:08:26,430 --> 01:08:29,820
no agenda shop. Instead of
calculating net profits on each

1189
01:08:29,820 --> 01:08:33,090
item which vary depending on
item size, type, color and

1190
01:08:33,210 --> 01:08:37,290
region ordered from and then
dividing by three the shop is

1191
01:08:37,290 --> 01:08:40,170
switching to a fixed royalty
system. It's not a big

1192
01:08:40,170 --> 01:08:42,930
difference, but it is important
to understand. For each item

1193
01:08:42,930 --> 01:08:48,480
sold the show no agenda show
received $3.33 and the designing

1194
01:08:48,480 --> 01:08:54,570
artist will receive $3.33 33
cents. This will literally

1195
01:08:54,570 --> 01:08:58,620
decimate the time to calculate
the profit split, which sadly is

1196
01:08:58,620 --> 01:09:02,850
not the definition of literally
decimating but if we understand

1197
01:09:02,850 --> 01:09:06,750
what you're saying Tony now I
can simply count the items each

1198
01:09:06,750 --> 01:09:10,560
artist sold and multiplied by
$3.33 then send that amount to

1199
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:14,430
the show and the artist and I
think I totally understand and I

1200
01:09:14,430 --> 01:09:16,800
think everyone's delighted that
they're doing this at all so I'm

1201
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,980
okay with it. But it is a change
from the way it is

1202
01:09:20,310 --> 01:09:23,100
pretty much can do whatever he
wants. Yes, he didn't have to

1203
01:09:23,100 --> 01:09:23,280
give

1204
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:27,840
anything to the show. So are the
artists technically no. So very

1205
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:31,440
happy. Thank you Tony. We love
it. We love the shop. I spend

1206
01:09:31,440 --> 01:09:34,200
any money I get from the shop. I
think I've spent it on the shop.

1207
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,710
I love getting to love the space
force T shirt. I love all the

1208
01:09:37,710 --> 01:09:41,040
stuff from the shop force. So
it's another part of our value

1209
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:44,220
for value network and there you
go. There we have a no agenda

1210
01:09:44,220 --> 01:09:47,970
shop.com Tony Cabrera coming in
as the top executive producer,

1211
01:09:48,210 --> 01:09:53,040
thanks to the value that he's
adding into our network. Love

1212
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:56,280
it. Just love it. Followed by

1213
01:09:56,280 --> 01:10:02,040
Paul love, who came in at
$333.33 Got a 30 threes there

1214
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:04,650
which reminds people that
there's a 1089 show coming.

1215
01:10:05,070 --> 01:10:09,360
Listeners census show one he
claims and I use the word claims

1216
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:13,500
came as an avid fan and producer
submitting many show intros of

1217
01:10:13,500 --> 01:10:16,770
the DSC and voice and over DSC
guy and follower of John from

1218
01:10:16,770 --> 01:10:20,220
tech, TV and tech mag columns.
This glorious day when the two

1219
01:10:20,220 --> 01:10:23,040
of you combined to create the
best podcast in the universe.

1220
01:10:25,380 --> 01:10:27,180
It was a glorious day.

1221
01:10:29,730 --> 01:10:33,210
I appreciate the shout out from
Adam recognizing my early

1222
01:10:33,210 --> 01:10:36,780
involvement in podcasting. Not a
major player from the early days

1223
01:10:36,780 --> 01:10:40,170
were fun times with a great
group of people is interesting

1224
01:10:40,170 --> 01:10:45,630
to see how, see here how, as
with much of the world history

1225
01:10:45,630 --> 01:10:49,080
is being rewritten by those in
the present to mold to their

1226
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:52,260
wants. In other words, the
credit for podcasting is being

1227
01:10:52,260 --> 01:10:55,980
taken over by a bunch of posers.
Yeah, well, that's how it goes.

1228
01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:00,090
Always goes that way. With this
donation, I complete my

1229
01:11:00,090 --> 01:11:03,150
knighthood records below. I have
not kept track well, but recent

1230
01:11:03,150 --> 01:11:06,450
history hits the mark. I would
like to be titled sir daddy cast

1231
01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:07,740
of the Love House.

1232
01:11:07,950 --> 01:11:11,280
That's right, the daddy cast I
remember, the daddy cast.

1233
01:11:11,670 --> 01:11:14,790
While giving this time of year
seems appropriate to express

1234
01:11:14,790 --> 01:11:17,970
thanks for what you do value for
value. This date also

1235
01:11:17,970 --> 01:11:21,540
commemorates my oldest son's
18th birthday. I think he's on

1236
01:11:21,540 --> 01:11:22,050
the list and let

1237
01:11:22,050 --> 01:11:26,370
me check. I don't know. Yes,
keep going.

1238
01:11:26,519 --> 01:11:30,839
I would love to hear the full
version of our ESP ICT at the

1239
01:11:30,839 --> 01:11:34,409
end of the show, and a to
delicious to believe followed by

1240
01:11:34,409 --> 01:11:38,879
a Don't eat me, Hillary. And
that combo always cracks me up.

1241
01:11:38,910 --> 01:11:42,030
Yes, I will. I will do the short
version under the long version

1242
01:11:42,030 --> 01:11:48,540
of RTSP ICT at the end. And I do
want to say that it is true that

1243
01:11:48,540 --> 01:11:53,100
the history of podcasting is is
just being hijacked and ripped

1244
01:11:53,100 --> 01:11:56,460
apart as someone sent me a link
to remember Keith and the Girl.

1245
01:11:57,210 --> 01:11:57,900
Yeah, kisses

1246
01:11:57,900 --> 01:12:02,280
a girl. So I guess I want the
earliest earliest of early so

1247
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:02,400
they're

1248
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,940
very early but I didn't listen
to the segment that was sent to

1249
01:12:05,940 --> 01:12:09,330
me because the title of the show
was fuck Adam curry and like,

1250
01:12:09,330 --> 01:12:13,020
okay, great. I'm sure so it's
Keith and the Girl I think

1251
01:12:13,050 --> 01:12:15,600
invented podcasting. So we have
to be very thankful to that.

1252
01:12:20,070 --> 01:12:21,540
ESP I see. It's

1253
01:12:21,570 --> 01:12:26,610
almost too delicious to believe
my friend. Hillary Clinton.

1254
01:12:28,050 --> 01:12:34,350
You've got karma Akita the girl.

1255
01:12:35,610 --> 01:12:38,340
They hate me so much. And it's
so stupid.

1256
01:12:38,639 --> 01:12:41,999
It's from pod deaths from the
pod show days I bet.

1257
01:12:42,030 --> 01:12:45,900
Yeah. Oh, yeah. But I guess now
the I'm I don't I don't know. I

1258
01:12:45,900 --> 01:12:47,160
didn't listen to it. I

1259
01:12:47,190 --> 01:12:48,810
just listened to

1260
01:12:48,810 --> 01:12:51,750
it. No, no, no, it'll give me a
damn

1261
01:12:51,750 --> 01:12:58,470
Meachem. Did you probably would
do the friend friends giving him

1262
01:12:58,470 --> 01:12:59,910
gravy. You're right,

1263
01:12:59,910 --> 01:13:00,840
you're right about that.

1264
01:13:01,170 --> 01:13:06,420
David Slyke are in Calgary,
Alberta during the $15.40 and he

1265
01:13:06,420 --> 01:13:10,770
will be as last executive
producer. This donation is equal

1266
01:13:10,770 --> 01:13:16,380
to 433 Canadian $1 for the 397
American Thanksgiving plus 36

1267
01:13:16,380 --> 01:13:19,050
months of listening to the show.
Thanks for being my only source

1268
01:13:19,050 --> 01:13:22,680
of news. Happy Thanksgiving.
Gente de douche me and play

1269
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:25,860
Donald loves Nazis for the end
of the show. I'm going to play

1270
01:13:25,860 --> 01:13:26,610
it now. In short,

1271
01:13:27,180 --> 01:13:28,290
Ben de deux.

1272
01:13:28,980 --> 01:13:33,630
Donald loves Nazis. Donald loves
Nazis.

1273
01:13:34,860 --> 01:13:39,900
CNN say that is PKK. Wow, I

1274
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:43,140
love that. One of the better
ones.

1275
01:13:45,660 --> 01:13:48,270
We have a balanced show today.
We have three executive

1276
01:13:48,270 --> 01:13:51,420
producers and three Associate
Executive producers. I think

1277
01:13:51,420 --> 01:13:56,250
that's kind of nice. And the
first one is Chris Stewart. He

1278
01:13:56,250 --> 01:13:57,030
did send an email

1279
01:13:57,030 --> 01:14:00,570
and I didn't do you didn't grab
the email?

1280
01:14:01,290 --> 01:14:07,170
I do have it. Good. Good. You
don't I was trying to ground

1281
01:14:07,170 --> 01:14:12,930
shirts. Okay, here we go. This
is a long one. Good. I'm not

1282
01:14:12,930 --> 01:14:15,180
going to read the whole thing
because it's really long. Good

1283
01:14:15,180 --> 01:14:17,790
afternoon, John. My apologies. I
forgot to put my donation in the

1284
01:14:17,790 --> 01:14:20,370
mail back in the summer and I've
been man overboard at some for

1285
01:14:20,370 --> 01:14:23,460
some time. However, today with
the Canadian post strike, I will

1286
01:14:23,460 --> 01:14:26,190
forego putting a check in the
mail and make a donation using

1287
01:14:26,190 --> 01:14:30,270
Pay Pal. I've made the donation
amount of 270. This should help

1288
01:14:30,270 --> 01:14:34,920
pick up the slack and donations
over the holidays. Which was his

1289
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:38,100
donation for 270. Yet right,
that's right. To give you an

1290
01:14:38,100 --> 01:14:41,550
adamant update on the outcome of
the USMC a trade agreement. Now

1291
01:14:41,550 --> 01:14:43,860
he makes a lot and this is where
I'll send you a copy of this.

1292
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:47,070
If you have a conclusion. I'm
interested in a conclusion.

1293
01:14:47,220 --> 01:14:52,050
bullcrap. So really, it's just a
rebrand just to rebrand.

1294
01:14:52,890 --> 01:14:56,700
Well, he says that the dairy
thing is not a big win for

1295
01:14:56,700 --> 01:15:02,070
either side. I think any deal
Yes, and he will. He has a long

1296
01:15:02,070 --> 01:15:05,220
explanation and you can I'll
send it to you and you can read

1297
01:15:05,220 --> 01:15:09,090
it. Julian is soaking into our,
our general knowledge base.

1298
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,760
Okay, and if there's anything in
there I think we should talk

1299
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:12,780
about I'll bring a report.

1300
01:15:12,810 --> 01:15:16,080
One final note another Canadian
politician to watch would be our

1301
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:19,650
Minister of Foreign Affairs.
Chrystia Freeland, she was our

1302
01:15:19,650 --> 01:15:23,100
chief negotiator throughout the
new NAFTA talks a Rhodes

1303
01:15:23,130 --> 01:15:27,210
Scholar. I might add, that mean
she's a globalist. She's one to

1304
01:15:27,210 --> 01:15:30,750
watch as she plots her course
within the Liberal Party. If

1305
01:15:30,750 --> 01:15:35,160
Trudeau and the Liberals go down
in flames in 2019, we can expect

1306
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:38,460
her to come through unscathed a
definite front runner in the

1307
01:15:38,460 --> 01:15:41,850
next leadership race. Feel free
to share some or all of this

1308
01:15:41,850 --> 01:15:46,500
note on tomorrow's show. And we
will read it over the the dairy

1309
01:15:46,500 --> 01:15:50,340
stuff and then we'll discuss it
later. He would like douchebag

1310
01:15:50,340 --> 01:15:55,140
call out. Me a douchebag call
out followed by prompt de

1311
01:15:55,140 --> 01:15:56,820
douching feels he needs that.

1312
01:15:59,790 --> 01:16:01,620
You've been de deuced

1313
01:16:03,270 --> 01:16:06,300
he needs some car. He says my
brother Matt is still a douche

1314
01:16:09,060 --> 01:16:14,160
about years ago and hasn't
donated for some time. John, the

1315
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:20,130
recent series of newsletters
have been outstanding. Of

1316
01:16:20,130 --> 01:16:22,440
course, Jim McCormack we're out
of here.

1317
01:16:23,009 --> 01:16:29,399
And just the way didn't someone
want to know okay, just you got

1318
01:16:29,399 --> 01:16:32,729
it. You've got karma.

1319
01:16:35,250 --> 01:16:37,110
There we just got it.

1320
01:16:39,570 --> 01:16:41,880
Carrie Lin Latour and

1321
01:16:42,210 --> 01:16:46,860
you think she's of the Latour,
familia? No, maybe send us some

1322
01:16:46,860 --> 01:16:47,550
of your wine.

1323
01:16:48,420 --> 01:16:50,100
Some bottles of love. Yeah,

1324
01:16:50,309 --> 01:16:51,239
send us some love tour

1325
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:55,260
Rs 40 cents. She's in Nova
Scotia. This donation is being

1326
01:16:55,260 --> 01:17:00,030
made on behalf of my smoking.
Hi, Carrie Lynn's 40th birthday,

1327
01:17:00,540 --> 01:17:04,200
I believe is she's on the list.
Yes. This was on the 21st. I

1328
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,540
asked her if she wanted anything
special to commemorate her

1329
01:17:06,540 --> 01:17:12,150
fourth decade. I think well let
me take Lucy this came in from

1330
01:17:12,150 --> 01:17:17,130
her. I think it's Renee. Yeah,
it's her husband clearly funny

1331
01:17:17,130 --> 01:17:19,890
yesterday. I asked her if she
wanted anything special to

1332
01:17:19,890 --> 01:17:23,010
commemorate her fourth decade on
the planet. And all she wanted

1333
01:17:23,010 --> 01:17:25,740
was to bits and it was decades

1334
01:17:25,860 --> 01:17:28,230
back. Go back read that sentence
again.

1335
01:17:31,260 --> 01:17:34,170
This donation may be on behalf
of my spoken off why you gotta

1336
01:17:34,170 --> 01:17:35,070
read it slowly. This

1337
01:17:35,070 --> 01:17:37,680
is a big deal. My 40th birthday,

1338
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:41,160
which is on the 21st was
yesterday I asked her if she

1339
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:43,860
went to anything special to
commemorate her four decades on

1340
01:17:43,860 --> 01:17:47,040
the planet all she wanted was a
no agenda producer credit there

1341
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:47,550
you go.

1342
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,210
That was her I mean for I was
gonna report

1343
01:17:51,480 --> 01:17:53,160
that just a joke comment in
there

1344
01:17:53,550 --> 01:17:58,290
just fourth decade. And she all
she wanted was a no agenda

1345
01:17:58,290 --> 01:17:59,340
producer credit.

1346
01:18:01,260 --> 01:18:03,840
There'd be no war if everybody
felt that way.

1347
01:18:04,710 --> 01:18:08,070
Thank you, John Lennon. The
whole

1348
01:18:08,070 --> 01:18:10,680
family loves the program and
immediate deconstruction has

1349
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:14,850
been critical in maintaining our
sanity in the post Trump era.

1350
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:18,690
Which it's where it seems sanity
is in short supply, as Adam

1351
01:18:18,690 --> 01:18:22,230
pointed out earlier, with
everybody jumping in on that

1352
01:18:22,710 --> 01:18:26,220
Face the Nation thing. Oh, thank
you for x. Thank you for

1353
01:18:26,220 --> 01:18:29,910
existing. Thank you. Thank you
for existing. And thank you for

1354
01:18:29,910 --> 01:18:32,610
all the artists who use whose
unique cover art drew me to the

1355
01:18:32,610 --> 01:18:36,870
podcast many months ago. Ah,
yeah, I read that.

1356
01:18:37,170 --> 01:18:38,520
I did. Yes, of course.

1357
01:18:39,269 --> 01:18:40,259
Please do douche

1358
01:18:40,290 --> 01:18:45,240
Yes. Sad douche foamer jingle
vest jingle ever conceived some

1359
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:50,010
karma? And then there's some
administrative stuff. Of course.

1360
01:18:50,010 --> 01:18:54,450
Thank you so much. And we will
also be celebrating Carolyn law

1361
01:18:54,450 --> 01:18:56,370
tours birthday later on are
saying

1362
01:18:58,080 --> 01:18:59,910
you've been de deuced

1363
01:19:02,130 --> 01:19:03,420
Oh my god.

1364
01:19:07,650 --> 01:19:09,330
You've got karma.

1365
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:15,390
We have a balance of three execs
and three associates. Mark

1366
01:19:15,390 --> 01:19:20,670
Valentine being the last 123456
and he's from the UK and he just

1367
01:19:20,670 --> 01:19:24,600
needs to find his the list. He's
in the UK guy with a list. What

1368
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:27,270
and I'll read the list and we
can execute. Well actually the

1369
01:19:27,270 --> 01:19:29,940
first one. Probably right off
the bat is D Dushane.

1370
01:19:31,590 --> 01:19:33,420
You been de deuced

1371
01:19:34,590 --> 01:19:38,400
see note to Adam entitled money
laundering. Yeah,

1372
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:41,910
I read it. He says we're right.
There's money laundering going

1373
01:19:41,910 --> 01:19:42,450
on there.

1374
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:49,680
It's a little longer than that.
But gambling. Yes, thank you. I

1375
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:53,730
appreciate you note. And then he
has a final F cancer karma

1376
01:19:53,880 --> 01:20:01,920
karma from my friend Fiona
Holland. You've got karma.

1377
01:20:04,319 --> 01:20:11,099
All right, nice balanced list.
Three executive producers, three

1378
01:20:11,099 --> 01:20:13,829
Associate Executive Producers
you are if this is your first

1379
01:20:13,829 --> 01:20:18,629
time in donation segment, you
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1380
01:20:18,629 --> 01:20:21,089
of our value for value model,
you've probably heard about it.

1381
01:20:21,089 --> 01:20:25,049
But this is how it works at
people just determine what it's

1382
01:20:25,049 --> 01:20:28,469
worth to them. And this is the
result of it. And it's all

1383
01:20:28,469 --> 01:20:32,399
across the spectrum from $1.
There's always one guy given $1,

1384
01:20:32,519 --> 01:20:36,509
lots of fours, elevens, we got
tons of money or 50, which are

1385
01:20:36,509 --> 01:20:39,899
sustaining producers, we really
appreciate that. But do you see

1386
01:20:39,899 --> 01:20:42,749
this, this is what people really
think that you know, this is

1387
01:20:42,749 --> 01:20:46,199
their value they want to provide
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1388
01:20:46,199 --> 01:20:48,899
jingles, people do all kinds of
stuff. We also need the money

1389
01:20:48,899 --> 01:20:52,889
and thank you very much. It
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1390
01:20:53,039 --> 01:20:56,639
also are real anywhere credits
are recognized you can use now,

1391
01:20:56,879 --> 01:21:00,179
the title of executive producer
of the no agenda show, or

1392
01:21:00,179 --> 01:21:02,819
Associate Executive Producer put
it anywhere you want. It does

1393
01:21:02,849 --> 01:21:05,969
get you work. We'll be thanking
more people $50 above later on

1394
01:21:05,969 --> 01:21:08,069
our second segment. And of
course, now the show coming up

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01:21:08,069 --> 01:21:14,429
Sunday. Please remember us at VO
rec.org/and. Then take bow.

1396
01:21:14,669 --> 01:21:19,379
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I was
gonna say sorry. Sorry. Sorry.

1397
01:21:19,919 --> 01:21:22,619
Take that Turkey knowledge and
propagate.

1398
01:21:22,950 --> 01:21:24,750
Is this we go

1399
01:21:24,750 --> 01:21:33,990
out for yet people in the mouth
boy

1400
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:40,080
Orange Man, that.

1401
01:21:42,090 --> 01:21:46,350
Jury that piece I sent you. I
think it's from 1983 New York

1402
01:21:46,350 --> 01:21:50,430
Times article talking about the
CIA and how they recruit how

1403
01:21:50,430 --> 01:21:53,040
they recruit out of college and
where they recruit it has all

1404
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:54,210
the colleges listed.

1405
01:21:54,870 --> 01:21:57,390
Hmm. Was it recent? No. Yeah, it

1406
01:21:57,390 --> 01:22:00,330
was recent was in the last few
days less? Well, not yesterday.

1407
01:22:00,330 --> 01:22:04,230
But they have all these colleges
listed. No, I

1408
01:22:04,230 --> 01:22:06,150
would have remembered I haven't
seen it yet. No. Yeah.

1409
01:22:06,180 --> 01:22:09,120
Well go find it and read it
because it's really good for our

1410
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:12,000
spot. This book. I think the
name of the of the

1411
01:22:13,500 --> 01:22:16,500
Oh, yes. No, I did see it come
in. But I we didn't tell

1412
01:22:16,500 --> 01:22:20,130
everybody that I spent almost
two hours this morning just

1413
01:22:20,130 --> 01:22:23,190
trying to get Skype started on
my machine. So

1414
01:22:24,420 --> 01:22:27,540
and then it started by itself.
That was the scariest part.

1415
01:22:28,230 --> 01:22:31,470
Yeah, this is welcome to
Windows. Oh, yes. You should

1416
01:22:31,470 --> 01:22:34,260
tell that story because that's
the whole story. But just to

1417
01:22:34,500 --> 01:22:37,560
base a short story is that okay,
I've had it I've had it you

1418
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:40,260
through your arms up in the air.
And you said I'm gonna have to

1419
01:22:40,260 --> 01:22:43,290
use the Amsterdammer rig, which
is just a smaller version of

1420
01:22:43,290 --> 01:22:46,380
what he's got. And then as he
started hooking it up, the other

1421
01:22:46,380 --> 01:22:50,130
machine got jealous. Yes, it
did.

1422
01:22:50,490 --> 01:22:52,470
It went booted way

1423
01:22:52,530 --> 01:22:56,190
way you're not gonna make that
little HP laptop compete with

1424
01:22:56,190 --> 01:23:02,190
me, Mr. Big Dell desktop. Know
that but it's it's not the only

1425
01:23:02,190 --> 01:23:04,950
one with this problem. Skype has
for some reason people have an

1426
01:23:04,950 --> 01:23:08,850
issue where you start it and it
crashes immediately. Now, I've

1427
01:23:08,850 --> 01:23:12,390
had issues with Skype before I
left, we're just did crash

1428
01:23:12,390 --> 01:23:15,180
remember during the show, and
then I couldn't get it to come

1429
01:23:15,180 --> 01:23:19,800
back then. And then the mobile
rig exhibited the same behavior

1430
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:24,060
and Amsterdam I was able to
circumvent it by disconnecting

1431
01:23:24,060 --> 01:23:27,480
all USB audio devices, then
starting it up then setting the

1432
01:23:27,480 --> 01:23:32,130
devices. And this morning, I
only started this computer been

1433
01:23:32,130 --> 01:23:36,030
off all week, there was no
update applied. That that least

1434
01:23:36,060 --> 01:23:39,330
didn't tell me any update was
applied. Just start up normal,

1435
01:23:39,480 --> 01:23:43,260
and Skype would not start. And I
spent, you know, like updating

1436
01:23:43,260 --> 01:23:47,220
video drivers. Could it be this?
Could it be that? And then I

1437
01:23:47,220 --> 01:23:52,050
called you and I I mean, listen,
when I call John and say I need

1438
01:23:52,050 --> 01:23:56,580
Windows help, you know, it's
bad. It's bad. It's really bad.

1439
01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,570
And so the ultimate advice was a
was just turn on the mobile rig.

1440
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:05,250
Yeah. And Absolutely. As I was
turning on the mobile rig,

1441
01:24:05,250 --> 01:24:08,580
plugging everything into that,
all of a sudden Skype came back.

1442
01:24:08,580 --> 01:24:08,880
So

1443
01:24:10,290 --> 01:24:12,690
I knew this was going to happen
because you were cussing out the

1444
01:24:12,690 --> 01:24:14,820
machine and these machines,
they're they're sensitive.

1445
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:17,340
They're very sensitive,
sensitive. You have to be nice

1446
01:24:17,340 --> 01:24:18,150
to them. I guess

1447
01:24:18,150 --> 01:24:21,540
you're right. Like a car
sensitive, very sensitive.

1448
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:23,880
I bought a lemon and they do
they sell to somebody else

1449
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:28,140
things fine. It's not limited at
all. So lemon for you. Since we

1450
01:24:28,140 --> 01:24:30,300
talked about Bloomberg, I do
want to mention is that they

1451
01:24:30,300 --> 01:24:32,790
mentioned that one of the
schools that was mentioned in

1452
01:24:32,790 --> 01:24:35,970
that article, along with
Georgetown and all these major

1453
01:24:35,970 --> 01:24:38,700
you got to read this article.
It's very funny. But there's one

1454
01:24:38,700 --> 01:24:42,420
of the schools mentioned is
Johns Hopkins as a as a place

1455
01:24:42,420 --> 01:24:46,830
where a lot of recruiting is
done. And so I got me into this

1456
01:24:46,830 --> 01:24:49,530
so that finding that article was
this was this piece he was

1457
01:24:49,530 --> 01:24:52,590
Bloomberg giving all this money
to Johns Hopkins for some reason

1458
01:24:52,590 --> 01:24:52,920
he

1459
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:55,590
yesterday did something
extraordinary. He gave $1.8

1460
01:24:55,620 --> 01:25:01,110
billion to his alma mater, Johns
Hopkins. And he said that he did

1461
01:25:01,110 --> 01:25:04,590
it for a scholarship funds for
financial aid for people of low

1462
01:25:04,590 --> 01:25:07,710
or middle income, who he doesn't
want them to be saddled with

1463
01:25:07,710 --> 01:25:12,600
student loans. After college has
so many people, this means that

1464
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:16,500
they will sort of forever be
able to give financial aid for a

1465
01:25:16,500 --> 01:25:20,280
long, long time to their
students. So that's a wonderful,

1466
01:25:20,490 --> 01:25:23,940
altruistic move. Is he running
for president in 2020? Or what

1467
01:25:24,060 --> 01:25:28,740
I think he is running, I think
this particular particular gift

1468
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:32,310
follows a pattern he has given
hundreds of millions of dollars,

1469
01:25:32,370 --> 01:25:35,220
you can't go on my campus and
look in any direction. And

1470
01:25:35,220 --> 01:25:37,680
that's the building that, you
know, it's the Bloomberg center

1471
01:25:37,740 --> 01:25:41,010
for this the woman, which is
all, which is all great. I think

1472
01:25:41,010 --> 01:25:43,560
this one's a little bit
different. Because it goes to

1473
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:46,890
the idea that education should
be available to everyone. I

1474
01:25:46,890 --> 01:25:48,990
think the really interesting
thing about Bloomberg though, is

1475
01:25:48,990 --> 01:25:53,400
not education. It's his big
issue is climate change. And

1476
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:56,130
there hasn't been a politician
that ain't been able to turn

1477
01:25:56,130 --> 01:26:01,470
climate change into a successful
political victory. I mean, Al

1478
01:26:01,470 --> 01:26:05,520
Gore came close. And a lot of
what he did came after the

1479
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:09,060
election, but I think that's
what you're gonna see him move

1480
01:26:09,060 --> 01:26:10,560
forward on, because that's what
he believes.

1481
01:26:11,070 --> 01:26:13,650
Well, they'll never win with
that.

1482
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:17,580
As dumb. Yeah, that's what he's
doing. You know,

1483
01:26:17,580 --> 01:26:22,350
there was the evening, before I
left, there was a big talk show

1484
01:26:22,350 --> 01:26:24,450
in the Netherlands, the nightly
talk show on the public

1485
01:26:24,450 --> 01:26:27,870
broadcaster. And I told you,
these politicians in the EU are

1486
01:26:27,870 --> 01:26:31,980
all just getting jiggy with it
because of the IPCC report. And

1487
01:26:31,980 --> 01:26:36,780
this main, the, the Minister of
Infrastructure in the

1488
01:26:36,780 --> 01:26:41,550
Netherlands. She has, I don't
know if they've actually passed

1489
01:26:41,580 --> 01:26:45,780
this yet. But she's saying we
need 600 million euros to save

1490
01:26:45,780 --> 01:26:48,600
us from dying from climate
change. I'm paraphrasing, but

1491
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:52,260
it's not far off. And so she's
in this talk show and people

1492
01:26:52,260 --> 01:26:55,530
like, Oh, yes, we have to do all
this for Oh, because you know,

1493
01:26:56,190 --> 01:26:58,200
you never know what's happening.
That's either too much water,

1494
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:00,060
not enough water, we have to
sit, we're not going to our

1495
01:27:00,060 --> 01:27:03,060
children, we're going to die.
And there's this older guy

1496
01:27:03,060 --> 01:27:06,810
sitting across the table and he
just rips into he says there's a

1497
01:27:06,810 --> 01:27:10,950
hospital that went bankrupt. And
people were wheeled out, you

1498
01:27:10,950 --> 01:27:14,010
know, on the streets to find
other hospitals and you want to

1499
01:27:14,010 --> 01:27:17,490
give 600 million to this bowl.
Crap. It was so beautiful to

1500
01:27:17,490 --> 01:27:20,700
watch. And because people are
going well, shit, that guy's

1501
01:27:20,700 --> 01:27:22,980
kind of right. You know, it's
like all you're complaining

1502
01:27:22,980 --> 01:27:26,190
about the future and just
climate change. But we got

1503
01:27:26,190 --> 01:27:30,120
people actually with IVs, you
know, strapped to their gurneys

1504
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:32,760
on the streets trying to figure
out which hospital to be wheeled

1505
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:37,140
to. They're loving it. But I
don't think the public will eat

1506
01:27:37,140 --> 01:27:39,780
it. And I don't think Bloomberg
can get far with it either. It's

1507
01:27:39,780 --> 01:27:44,100
just not a winning strategy.
It's just hasn't worked. I don't

1508
01:27:44,100 --> 01:27:46,650
think for anybody. No. Well,

1509
01:27:47,670 --> 01:27:50,940
we'll see how it goes. He's not
gonna get past the debates,

1510
01:27:50,940 --> 01:27:53,580
because he's just not he's gay.
I don't think I've ever seen the

1511
01:27:53,580 --> 01:27:58,140
guy smile. Yeah, he's dour. He's
gonna have to stand on at least

1512
01:27:58,140 --> 01:27:59,310
two apple boxes.

1513
01:28:00,450 --> 01:28:03,150
You know, you really don't like
him being that short.

1514
01:28:05,430 --> 01:28:08,220
No, I don't care about him being
dead. So this was a running gag

1515
01:28:08,220 --> 01:28:12,120
that Letterman used to use. Oh,
I didn't realize this. Oh, yeah.

1516
01:28:12,420 --> 01:28:15,210
Letterman used to go on and on
about how short he was. And he

1517
01:28:15,210 --> 01:28:18,120
would then he put his arm out,
you know, like how tall he

1518
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:21,180
wasn't any lower and lower it
lower it out. You just keep

1519
01:28:21,180 --> 01:28:25,140
doing this. You keep writing to
Bloomberg height. Of course, you

1520
01:28:25,140 --> 01:28:25,770
won't do now

1521
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:30,150
let him and really got out of
the TV business that the evening

1522
01:28:30,150 --> 01:28:33,210
talk show business right on
time. Because the political

1523
01:28:33,270 --> 01:28:35,340
politically uncorrect nature of
him,

1524
01:28:35,970 --> 01:28:40,290
I think would have heard him
eventually. Yeah, probably. I

1525
01:28:40,290 --> 01:28:41,100
don't think he wasn't gonna be

1526
01:28:41,100 --> 01:28:42,270
all of them. Yeah. Oh,

1527
01:28:42,270 --> 01:28:44,880
of course it is. But I just
don't know if I don't I'm I

1528
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:47,160
don't think he would have been
able to do the same stuff.

1529
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:49,440
Yeah, hell,

1530
01:28:49,620 --> 01:28:54,060
all right. That's all I'm happy
to report. It's the same in in

1531
01:28:54,060 --> 01:28:57,360
the Netherlands. It's the same
in the United Kingdom. It's all

1532
01:28:57,690 --> 01:28:59,580
just you know, it's a little
different. But it's all your

1533
01:28:59,580 --> 01:29:04,440
racist. You hate women. You hate
Jews. You hate him. Whatever it

1534
01:29:04,440 --> 01:29:07,920
is. Everyone's yelling,
everyone's just yelling at each

1535
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:11,490
other. We're at the end of
civilization. But the end, I'm

1536
01:29:11,490 --> 01:29:12,870
telling you, what the end

1537
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:16,530
Same exact thing was going on in
the 20s.

1538
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:19,470
Oh, of course. It's just sound.
You know, this is not the 20th

1539
01:29:19,590 --> 01:29:23,400
we had Twitter. It's different.
It's different. Now. It's

1540
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:26,040
different. This is where we
fundamentally disagree on

1541
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:27,360
things. Yeah.

1542
01:29:28,230 --> 01:29:32,460
Big time. Yeah, we do. Now, this
is something that we probably

1543
01:29:32,460 --> 01:29:36,840
agree on. Here's Michael and I
got turned on to this speech. He

1544
01:29:36,870 --> 01:29:41,850
gave a speech at the he's the
mic, Utah. Oh, okay. All right.

1545
01:29:41,850 --> 01:29:44,850
Yeah, I got turned on to the
speeches give a speech at the

1546
01:29:44,850 --> 01:29:48,210
Federalist Society was people
are telling us when who was Mike

1547
01:29:48,210 --> 01:29:50,460
Lee, Mike Lee, you know,

1548
01:29:50,490 --> 01:29:53,460
no, but I'm asking for the other
people who happen to be

1549
01:29:53,460 --> 01:29:55,020
eavesdropping on the
conversation.

1550
01:29:56,340 --> 01:30:00,720
Be he's the senator from Utah.
And he's a rat. He's is a very

1551
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:03,780
conservative he was a never
Trumper I believe is

1552
01:30:03,780 --> 01:30:06,840
just the guy who wanted to was
the ex CIA. Was that a different

1553
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:07,230
guy?

1554
01:30:07,500 --> 01:30:09,180
No, no, that's the guy who tried
to run it

1555
01:30:09,180 --> 01:30:13,860
was a Democrat. Yeah, yeah.
Okay. And he was running,

1556
01:30:13,860 --> 01:30:16,500
you'd been running against
Romney because Mike Lee is not

1557
01:30:16,500 --> 01:30:22,710
in this cycle. Okay. So they
said Mike Lee predicts a civil

1558
01:30:22,710 --> 01:30:26,280
war because of a bunch of
things. And I looked at, and he

1559
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:30,450
didn't, you know, this was some
hysterical headline. And so I

1560
01:30:30,660 --> 01:30:33,450
went and listened to the whole
speech. And it was bullcrap the

1561
01:30:33,450 --> 01:30:38,310
headline was a lie. But I got
this one clip body here, there's

1562
01:30:38,310 --> 01:30:41,430
I thought was pretty good. All
right, Mike. Sorry, this is Mike

1563
01:30:41,430 --> 01:30:43,050
Lee talking about the economy.

1564
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:46,410
Our economy is at full
employment, and it's growing

1565
01:30:46,410 --> 01:30:50,610
fast enough to distract us, at
least temporarily, from our $21

1566
01:30:50,610 --> 01:30:54,600
trillion national debt, and our
$800 billion dollar annual

1567
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:57,510
deficit, perhaps it shouldn't be
enough, but for the time being,

1568
01:30:57,540 --> 01:31:00,660
it is. But my big concern is
what happens when the next

1569
01:31:00,660 --> 01:31:04,050
bubble bursts when the next
recession hits. When the multi

1570
01:31:04,050 --> 01:31:07,350
trillion dollar debts accrued by
state and local pension funds.

1571
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:12,000
Come do? What happens when next
we face a genuine international

1572
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:16,860
crisis. What happens when
Treasury yield rates return to

1573
01:31:16,860 --> 01:31:20,370
their historic average, and we
see our national debt service

1574
01:31:20,370 --> 01:31:24,390
payments go from where they are
today, which is about $300

1575
01:31:24,390 --> 01:31:26,880
billion a year, which is not
that much higher than they were

1576
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:30,360
20 years ago, when our national
debt was what 1/7 of its current

1577
01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:33,570
size to where they'll go within
a couple of years after Treasury

1578
01:31:33,570 --> 01:31:35,730
yield rates return to their
historical average, which will

1579
01:31:35,730 --> 01:31:37,680
be around a trillion dollars a
year.

1580
01:31:39,930 --> 01:31:42,540
Yeah, we're just waiting for the
catalyst, aren't we? I mean, I'm

1581
01:31:42,540 --> 01:31:46,440
pretty convinced that it's going
to happen very soon.

1582
01:31:47,790 --> 01:31:50,700
Yeah, we're waiting for the
catalyst. It's always gonna be

1583
01:31:50,700 --> 01:31:54,450
in it's never the same so you
can't look US History doesn't

1584
01:31:54,450 --> 01:31:57,780
work with the market and you
don't and there's always crashes

1585
01:31:57,780 --> 01:32:02,970
slightly different ways you
might be well funded. Death is

1586
01:32:02,970 --> 01:32:05,730
what Dr. Horowitz and I kind of
thing Well, hold

1587
01:32:05,730 --> 01:32:10,140
on. Fundamentally, the things
that are really weird right now,

1588
01:32:10,530 --> 01:32:14,940
is we have oil going down
rapidly but natural gas spiking

1589
01:32:14,940 --> 01:32:15,360
up

1590
01:32:16,710 --> 01:32:19,740
which is is weird, but it is

1591
01:32:19,740 --> 01:32:23,040
weird. But the natural gas has
been in a depression probably

1592
01:32:23,040 --> 01:32:25,200
for about a decade. So it's
going up under any

1593
01:32:25,650 --> 01:32:28,830
got to be manip this is all
manipulated. I mean, the price

1594
01:32:28,830 --> 01:32:32,160
of oil definitely manipulated,
but then who's manipulating the

1595
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:35,310
natural gas? I mean, is that
here's bottom line, I think

1596
01:32:35,310 --> 01:32:38,910
Trump is out of his depth. I
don't think he can bring this

1597
01:32:38,940 --> 01:32:42,030
economy I don't think he's got
the momentum anymore that he had

1598
01:32:42,030 --> 01:32:47,310
it was really running on pure
adrenaline. I mean, just

1599
01:32:47,310 --> 01:32:50,940
fundamentally I know I can't I
can't see it. I really can't

1600
01:32:50,940 --> 01:32:55,650
believe that it's sustainable
you know,

1601
01:32:55,650 --> 01:32:58,470
of course it by and I was said
said that five years ago and

1602
01:32:58,470 --> 01:33:03,930
it's still going well. Yeah, but
I'm not like the guy. I'm

1603
01:33:03,930 --> 01:33:06,750
reminded of these guys and
there's a bunch of locals or a

1604
01:33:07,530 --> 01:33:12,810
lot of writers and they became
other things since you know

1605
01:33:12,810 --> 01:33:16,950
public relations guys but the
when there was the boom not

1606
01:33:16,950 --> 01:33:23,040
the.com Boom but the real estate
boom from probably 85 to like

1607
01:33:23,070 --> 01:33:29,370
nine 2007 when it collapsed
there were guys brought in way

1608
01:33:29,370 --> 01:33:33,480
early going up this real estate
prices are too high it's gonna

1609
01:33:33,480 --> 01:33:37,020
pop the bubble is gonna pop a
bunch gonna pop is gonna pop and

1610
01:33:37,020 --> 01:33:40,710
then they during that old that
dip almost a decade of saying

1611
01:33:40,710 --> 01:33:43,590
the bubble is gonna pop if any
one of them would have bought

1612
01:33:43,590 --> 01:33:49,110
the any piece of property they'd
be millionaires but they kept

1613
01:33:49,110 --> 01:33:51,540
saying it's gonna pop it's gonna
pop in Yeah, everything pops

1614
01:33:51,540 --> 01:33:54,840
eventually and it did pop and
that was recovered but actually

1615
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:58,260
beyond where it was at least in
some parts of the country which

1616
01:33:58,260 --> 01:34:02,670
were not a boom areas and you
know I don't know what's gonna

1617
01:34:02,670 --> 01:34:07,380
pop again or not but you can't
necessarily stay out

1618
01:34:07,830 --> 01:34:11,280
yeah but so but you're looking
purely at real estate I think it

1619
01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:12,990
might be multiple multiple I'm
looking

1620
01:34:12,990 --> 01:34:15,540
at the market the market more in
real estate I'm just saying

1621
01:34:15,540 --> 01:34:19,290
really just exemplifying sure
this mentality where you're just

1622
01:34:19,290 --> 01:34:21,120
gonna pop it's gonna pop it's
gonna pop and meanwhile it's

1623
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:23,010
going up and up and up and you
could have made some money if

1624
01:34:23,010 --> 01:34:26,310
you've just been in and got out
if you are nimble, which import

1625
01:34:26,340 --> 01:34:30,330
unfortunately people I take a
lot of this back what I just

1626
01:34:30,330 --> 01:34:33,330
said Because unless you're with
real estate is not so much of a

1627
01:34:33,330 --> 01:34:36,060
problem because it doesn't move
that much. But with the stock

1628
01:34:36,060 --> 01:34:41,340
market unless you're in it
daily. You know you're a day

1629
01:34:41,340 --> 01:34:44,640
trader something you can't get
out fast enough. You wake up,

1630
01:34:44,940 --> 01:34:47,190
you go to work, you come home
and the markets crash. Yeah,

1631
01:34:47,190 --> 01:34:49,440
but that's so that's just a
small percentage of the

1632
01:34:49,440 --> 01:34:52,230
population. I mean, yes, of
course you can make money

1633
01:34:52,230 --> 01:34:56,220
speculating on stuff. But the
previous the economic collapse,

1634
01:34:56,250 --> 01:34:59,100
you know, that was it was just
such a perfect storm where

1635
01:34:59,190 --> 01:35:03,150
people could not pay their
mortgages and that just dominoed

1636
01:35:03,150 --> 01:35:06,180
all the way through until we
just had to create all this, you

1637
01:35:06,180 --> 01:35:10,110
know, fake money and give it to
the bank so that they could be

1638
01:35:10,140 --> 01:35:13,560
good again. And then we put all
the bad stuff somewhere else who

1639
01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:18,000
just did that. Some other
country just did that. I think

1640
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:21,030
it's Greece. Yeah, Greece just
created a new special purpose

1641
01:35:21,030 --> 01:35:25,140
vehicle, which has all the
harmonic hallmarks of a junker,

1642
01:35:25,170 --> 01:35:28,830
you know, no wheels doesn't go
anywhere. And it just, it's an

1643
01:35:28,830 --> 01:35:31,320
accounting trick. Just man just
put the bad stuff in there.

1644
01:35:32,220 --> 01:35:36,810
And did we do the exact same
thing? Kinda Yeah.

1645
01:35:37,260 --> 01:35:40,590
So it would have to be something
like that. Now if it's slow by

1646
01:35:40,590 --> 01:35:45,240
1000 cuts like DHL unplugged
says, I think that's one hand

1647
01:35:45,270 --> 01:35:47,700
it's not being able to pay
student loans. That's pretty

1648
01:35:47,700 --> 01:35:51,780
big. What 1.5 trillion that's
pretty big. But that's a slow

1649
01:35:51,780 --> 01:35:55,830
process, that people not paying
back. It's not really like you

1650
01:35:55,830 --> 01:35:58,740
know, you you run out of money
and you go bankrupt now you're

1651
01:35:58,740 --> 01:36:01,230
in school, you're still just you
get the you can still get your

1652
01:36:01,290 --> 01:36:02,130
your loan.

1653
01:36:03,900 --> 01:36:06,630
Without paying back your loan
while you're getting it.

1654
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:10,020
I understand. But I'm saying the
people we're supposed to pay it

1655
01:36:10,020 --> 01:36:15,930
back or hook or crook are paying
it back. Since you can't get out

1656
01:36:15,930 --> 01:36:18,300
of it. So yeah, so where is

1657
01:36:18,300 --> 01:36:19,230
skin? You know,

1658
01:36:19,230 --> 01:36:22,020
I think healthcare has got to be
the one that's that's what's

1659
01:36:22,020 --> 01:36:26,700
bankrupting people. Well,

1660
01:36:28,170 --> 01:36:31,620
I think there's, I don't think
well, maybe that could be

1661
01:36:31,650 --> 01:36:37,140
it's bankrupting me as well.
Possible.

1662
01:36:37,650 --> 01:36:40,950
But it is it seems to be I mean,
if you remember the 2007 and

1663
01:36:40,950 --> 01:36:45,060
eight This is boring people to
2007 18 Remember that letters of

1664
01:36:45,060 --> 01:36:49,140
credit weren't being accepted
yet and there's all this

1665
01:36:49,140 --> 01:36:52,290
foreboding boating before that
crash Yeah, there wasn't there

1666
01:36:52,290 --> 01:36:55,860
were more signals. I agree. And
there's not anything like that

1667
01:36:55,860 --> 01:37:01,410
going on which but then again
before the 29 crash I've looked

1668
01:37:01,410 --> 01:37:05,670
at it enough I think I might be
wrong. There wasn't anything it

1669
01:37:05,670 --> 01:37:08,760
just crashed it happened in
every bounce right back for the

1670
01:37:08,820 --> 01:37:13,470
dented just drifted to the
bottom. But when it happened,

1671
01:37:13,470 --> 01:37:16,650
there was all these remember, I
got the front pages of all these

1672
01:37:16,650 --> 01:37:19,560
papers. Oh, gee, in any you
know, head of the Bank of

1673
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:21,870
America. This is just bull crap.
There's no reason this is

1674
01:37:21,870 --> 01:37:25,140
ridiculous that this happened.
There were a sound financial

1675
01:37:25,140 --> 01:37:27,960
condition. Every banker in the
world kept saying this and it

1676
01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:31,170
was on the front page of all the
papers. Don't worry about it.

1677
01:37:31,380 --> 01:37:34,410
We're in sound financial
condition, everything's fine.

1678
01:37:36,090 --> 01:37:39,000
Well, I already know what the
what the history books will look

1679
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:43,110
like. When we look back on the
huge crash of let's just say

1680
01:37:43,110 --> 01:37:47,130
2020 Just to make it and to make
it a fun number. We look back at

1681
01:37:47,130 --> 01:37:50,310
the historic crash and the
deepest depression of all

1682
01:37:50,310 --> 01:37:56,640
depressions ever. You'll see
hipsters with ratted tattered

1683
01:37:56,640 --> 01:38:01,410
clothing, dragging a half dead
dog behind him. And then they'll

1684
01:38:01,410 --> 01:38:04,950
just be nothing but piles of E
scooters and other dockless

1685
01:38:04,950 --> 01:38:07,470
bikes everywhere that no one can
afford to use.

1686
01:38:07,980 --> 01:38:10,320
And they and the companies all
went bankrupt and can't afford

1687
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:11,790
to pick them up. Exactly.

1688
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:16,350
That's what it's gonna look
like. It'll be the best of times

1689
01:38:16,350 --> 01:38:19,020
and the worst of times. Hey, but
at least we can get somewhere

1690
01:38:19,020 --> 01:38:19,980
cheap on a scooter.

1691
01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:22,380
If the scooters still work? Yes.

1692
01:38:23,880 --> 01:38:27,240
I didn't find that boring.
Actually, I enjoy thinking about

1693
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:30,090
those things. Well, I know I
don't enjoy what could be but

1694
01:38:30,180 --> 01:38:31,050
thinking through it.

1695
01:38:31,440 --> 01:38:33,780
Well, luckily, they're talking
about people trying to copy the

1696
01:38:33,780 --> 01:38:36,420
what we how we do business
players, Canadian. This from the

1697
01:38:36,420 --> 01:38:40,980
CBC. Clearly Canada's going to
into the hole because of us.

1698
01:38:41,010 --> 01:38:44,040
But it wasn't all about
economics. Tonight, we'll look

1699
01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:47,190
at the politics involved, the
breaks to help some media

1700
01:38:47,190 --> 01:38:50,190
companies. And we'll ask the
finance minister, why it's all

1701
01:38:50,190 --> 01:38:53,370
going to cost so much. Because
one thing is certain Canada will

1702
01:38:53,370 --> 01:38:56,220
be going deeper in the red for
years to come.

1703
01:38:57,780 --> 01:38:59,910
The Fall economic state will be
focused on things like

1704
01:39:00,150 --> 01:39:05,310
competitiveness, and the focus
on raw drawing the benefit from

1705
01:39:05,550 --> 01:39:08,430
the great trade deals we've been
signing and moving forward on

1706
01:39:08,460 --> 01:39:09,450
over the past years.

1707
01:39:09,690 --> 01:39:13,050
To do this, the liberals have
come up with more than $16

1708
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:17,520
billion in new investments and
tax breaks for businesses. But

1709
01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:21,000
that will mean continued
deficits. Remember that promise

1710
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:24,750
to balance things by next year?
Well, there is no balanced

1711
01:39:24,750 --> 01:39:28,110
budget for the foreseeable
future. All of this is

1712
01:39:28,110 --> 01:39:31,440
essentially a response to an
unpredictable, unpredictable

1713
01:39:31,440 --> 01:39:35,310
rather US administration, one
with protectionist impulses, low

1714
01:39:35,310 --> 01:39:38,850
corporate taxes and very deep
pockets. As David Cochran

1715
01:39:38,850 --> 01:39:42,060
explains it's clear that Trudeau
Government has a lot riding on

1716
01:39:42,060 --> 01:39:44,760
the outcome. You're the Minister
of Finance,

1717
01:39:45,360 --> 01:39:48,720
like everything these days Bill
Moore knows Fiscal Update as a

1718
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:52,560
response to President Donald
Trump. One series of measures to

1719
01:39:52,560 --> 01:39:54,510
respond to US tax cuts

1720
01:39:54,540 --> 01:39:57,750
to encourage businesses to
invest in their own growth and

1721
01:39:57,750 --> 01:39:59,970
create more good well paying
jobs.

1722
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:04,290
As others to steer Canada away
from its dependence on the US

1723
01:40:04,290 --> 01:40:05,370
market, just because

1724
01:40:05,370 --> 01:40:08,910
we share a trade agreement with
the United States, doesn't mean

1725
01:40:08,910 --> 01:40:10,530
we'll always agree with their
approach.

1726
01:40:10,830 --> 01:40:13,860
Those are the goals. Here's how
the Liberals want to get there.

1727
01:40:14,430 --> 01:40:17,880
To stay competitive with the US
there are billions and tax cuts

1728
01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:21,240
for businesses to help them
expand and buy equipment over

1729
01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:25,440
the next five years. A 100%
write off for manufacturing and

1730
01:40:25,440 --> 01:40:29,370
processing equipment, a 100%
write off for clean tech

1731
01:40:29,370 --> 01:40:33,300
investment, tripling the write
off for all other business

1732
01:40:33,300 --> 01:40:36,600
investments. There's also more
than a billion dollars to

1733
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:41,280
diversify trade, including cash
to boost roads, rails and ports

1734
01:40:41,370 --> 01:40:46,320
to get goods to Asia and Europe.
Canadians will get the bill for

1735
01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:50,010
the conservatives. Warren, this
all comes with a big cost.

1736
01:40:50,100 --> 01:40:55,350
They are putting our future in a
reckless state of danger by

1737
01:40:55,350 --> 01:41:01,410
spending an hour tomorrow on
there today. That's right.

1738
01:41:03,150 --> 01:41:06,600
Or tomorrow. Now the funny thing
about this is a little thing

1739
01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:10,740
they slipped in which I thought
was unique. I didn't realize how

1740
01:41:10,740 --> 01:41:15,570
subsidized the media is in
Canada. Oh, yeah. And the CBC I

1741
01:41:15,570 --> 01:41:19,290
guess gets over almost a billion
and a half dollars a year, which

1742
01:41:19,290 --> 01:41:21,060
is a nice operating budget.

1743
01:41:21,090 --> 01:41:25,650
You know, the BBC is multiple
billions. It's ridiculous,

1744
01:41:25,650 --> 01:41:26,940
multiple billions.

1745
01:41:27,330 --> 01:41:29,790
But they're apparently going to
go overboard and give almost a

1746
01:41:29,790 --> 01:41:33,480
billion to just just any old
media company play giving money

1747
01:41:33,480 --> 01:41:34,350
to the media.

1748
01:41:35,100 --> 01:41:37,110
Hey, can we get in on this?

1749
01:41:37,380 --> 01:41:39,900
I was we covered on the podcast
in Canada.

1750
01:41:40,350 --> 01:41:42,750
At an age when journalists
around the world are being

1751
01:41:42,750 --> 01:41:45,720
accused of producing fake news.
The Trudeau Government has

1752
01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:50,520
decided to invest in local news,
nearly $600 million over the

1753
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:53,670
next five years to support media
outlets struggling with

1754
01:41:53,670 --> 01:41:58,410
dwindling revenues. It includes
a 15% tax credit to encourage

1755
01:41:58,410 --> 01:42:01,920
Canadians to subscribe to
digital news media and giving

1756
01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:05,160
charitable status to nonprofit
news outlets to help them

1757
01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:08,760
fundraise but perhaps the most
important measure a new tax

1758
01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:12,600
credit to help cover the labor
costs of producing original news

1759
01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:13,800
content locally.

1760
01:42:14,280 --> 01:42:18,600
Wow. You know the rebel, you
know them. Yeah, the rebel

1761
01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:22,500
media. This is a link from the
troll room, but I opened it up

1762
01:42:22,500 --> 01:42:25,350
Justin Trudeau is buying
Canadian media.

1763
01:42:26,100 --> 01:42:26,820
They say

1764
01:42:29,310 --> 01:42:30,690
a quest a key question

1765
01:42:31,320 --> 01:42:32,520
is not getting any of the money.

1766
01:42:32,550 --> 01:42:38,250
No. Akik? Well, they say we're
not for sale. That's the that's

1767
01:42:38,250 --> 01:42:39,000
their stance.

1768
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:41,040
So I don't get any of the money.
Well,

1769
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:44,250
they're saying they don't want
it. A key question that remains

1770
01:42:44,280 --> 01:42:47,190
unanswered for now is which
organizations will be eligible

1771
01:42:47,190 --> 01:42:49,770
for the new measures and which
ones will be excluded? I think

1772
01:42:49,770 --> 01:42:52,230
you're right. The government
said the package will aim to

1773
01:42:52,230 --> 01:42:56,790
help quote trusted news
organizations. Yes. Let me

1774
01:42:56,790 --> 01:42:59,250
translate that into plain
English. There is an election

1775
01:42:59,250 --> 01:43:01,440
next year. And if you're a
journalist who wants in on

1776
01:43:01,440 --> 01:43:07,620
Troodos slush fund, he has to
know he can trust you. So no

1777
01:43:07,620 --> 01:43:10,380
tough questions for Trudeau or
his cabinet, no embarrassing

1778
01:43:10,380 --> 01:43:14,760
investigations. You must
demonize any Trudeau critics as

1779
01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:17,730
bigoted, homophobic or
Islamophobic. And you have to

1780
01:43:17,730 --> 01:43:20,550
promote to those policies and
everything from the carbon tax

1781
01:43:20,550 --> 01:43:25,440
to open border mass immigration.
So here would be a fun test. It

1782
01:43:25,440 --> 01:43:30,360
wouldn't be too hard for us to
do just a little podcast, a

1783
01:43:30,360 --> 01:43:34,020
weekly one, where we pretty much
do the same stuff, except we add

1784
01:43:34,050 --> 01:43:38,280
a and then we just and then we
just do this. We just say to

1785
01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:43,020
morrow, yeah, we just say hey,
kudos, great day. And then we'll

1786
01:43:43,020 --> 01:43:45,660
say stuff like pan, I can't
believe anyone wants to

1787
01:43:45,660 --> 01:43:48,990
investigate and you can trust
the guy a, we just do that. And

1788
01:43:48,990 --> 01:43:50,430
then may we will get some money.

1789
01:43:51,750 --> 01:43:53,160
I think this is a plan.

1790
01:43:53,310 --> 01:43:55,920
However, on the other side,
what's interesting if this would

1791
01:43:55,920 --> 01:44:00,570
ever come our way. And we've and
people never really catch these

1792
01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:05,010
explanations, we do them all the
time, why we are not a 501 C

1793
01:44:05,010 --> 01:44:08,310
three nonprofit organization.
There's a number of reasons for

1794
01:44:08,310 --> 01:44:11,460
it. One, which he recently
explained on the Great America

1795
01:44:11,460 --> 01:44:13,770
show, which people should go
listen to it was one of the most

1796
01:44:13,770 --> 01:44:16,440
recent episodes, but also

1797
01:44:16,470 --> 01:44:18,270
313. If we

1798
01:44:19,590 --> 01:44:22,470
signed up for that we have to
have a charter and we have to

1799
01:44:22,470 --> 01:44:26,580
stick to it. And basically the
government would have some

1800
01:44:26,580 --> 01:44:28,590
elements of control over us.

1801
01:44:28,860 --> 01:44:33,480
Correct? Yeah, absolutely. So
you don't want

1802
01:44:33,780 --> 01:44:36,480
a lot more paperwork and you
have the IRS on your back? And

1803
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:39,360
well, yes. I mean, that's what
I'm saying. You know, so they

1804
01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:41,940
can say, well, we don't think
you're really doing the right

1805
01:44:41,940 --> 01:44:44,970
you're not really you know,
independent or whatever you they

1806
01:44:44,970 --> 01:44:49,440
could just say oh, you seem too
one sided. So sorry. That can't

1807
01:44:49,440 --> 01:44:51,930
have that. Your Trump apologist
can't have no money for that.

1808
01:44:51,930 --> 01:44:56,790
No. I did. I read the Great
America got D platformed. From

1809
01:44:56,790 --> 01:44:57,360
PayPal.

1810
01:44:58,200 --> 01:45:00,840
No, I didn't hear that. At If
there was why

1811
01:45:01,590 --> 01:45:06,450
would they ever do that? Would I
just there are pretty i love it

1812
01:45:06,479 --> 01:45:09,959
i think i think i think that i
think it happened Hold on a

1813
01:45:09,959 --> 01:45:13,259
second. I don't think so. Okay,
well you don't think you don't

1814
01:45:13,319 --> 01:45:15,509
have my opinions in very high
regard

1815
01:45:17,010 --> 01:45:24,480
let's see they were suspended
Yes, they were to watch okay, I

1816
01:45:24,480 --> 01:45:29,490
had the after. Um Here it is.
They posted a screenshot you can

1817
01:45:29,490 --> 01:45:32,850
no longer do business with
PayPal. After review we decided

1818
01:45:32,850 --> 01:45:35,490
to permanently limit your
account as we found potential

1819
01:45:35,490 --> 01:45:40,860
risk associated with it. Refer
we will hold put a holder that

1820
01:45:40,860 --> 01:45:47,010
gets a 180 day hold on the money
to cheese Yeah, I've heard that.

1821
01:45:48,330 --> 01:45:52,290
And now I don't know if they're
back or not. Well, maybe they

1822
01:45:52,290 --> 01:45:54,750
are back now. That definitely
was some problem

1823
01:45:56,460 --> 01:45:58,020
could have been and who knows
what

1824
01:45:58,050 --> 01:46:02,490
we know this is part of what I
think is very well it's interest

1825
01:46:02,490 --> 01:46:05,970
interesting times to live in
when you have a lot of services

1826
01:46:05,970 --> 01:46:09,870
and a lot of fundamental things
that you that we come to rely on

1827
01:46:10,050 --> 01:46:15,930
are technology based. So the
most recent one is Airbnb

1828
01:46:15,930 --> 01:46:18,900
actually have a clip let me just
share that so we can listen to

1829
01:46:18,900 --> 01:46:19,050
it.

1830
01:46:19,410 --> 01:46:23,160
Airbnb is going to remove from
its listings all homes in

1831
01:46:23,160 --> 01:46:26,310
Israeli settlements in the
occupied West Bank. The company

1832
01:46:26,310 --> 01:46:29,190
says it's made the decision
because settlements are at the

1833
01:46:29,190 --> 01:46:32,520
core of the dispute between
Israelis and Palestinians.

1834
01:46:32,940 --> 01:46:36,510
Palestinians have welcomed the
decision. Israel has called it

1835
01:46:36,510 --> 01:46:39,900
shameful and threatened legal
action.

1836
01:46:40,500 --> 01:46:44,130
Now whether you agree with it or
not, is completely irrelevant.

1837
01:46:44,310 --> 01:46:48,480
If you have a house that you
kind of count on the income for

1838
01:46:48,570 --> 01:46:52,320
from Airbnb and you they just
universally decide what D

1839
01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:54,960
platforming you because you
you're the wrong person. You

1840
01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:57,210
live in the wrong place, or
whatever their reason is, which

1841
01:46:57,210 --> 01:47:00,390
is well within their complete
right to do that.

1842
01:47:00,870 --> 01:47:03,720
Yeah. Are you ready to do that?
Yeah. So

1843
01:47:03,720 --> 01:47:06,420
you got to be careful how much
you rely on this stuff?

1844
01:47:06,900 --> 01:47:11,160
Well, this is the same thing.
This is a fractal of

1845
01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:13,110
microservices architecture.

1846
01:47:13,500 --> 01:47:16,470
Yeah, except this is the
consumer side. Consumer size is

1847
01:47:16,470 --> 01:47:16,740
just

1848
01:47:16,830 --> 01:47:20,190
the fractal goes out. Yes. Out.
Yeah. The out. No, it's not. You

1849
01:47:20,190 --> 01:47:23,190
know, it's it's just a big
version of the small problem.

1850
01:47:23,220 --> 01:47:26,760
Yeah. And it's just, it's just a
huge problem. And you I mean,

1851
01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:30,840
this, I think Alex Jones, by
being the jerk that he is in

1852
01:47:30,870 --> 01:47:35,040
this in this regard, if he
wanted, I'm totally convinced

1853
01:47:35,340 --> 01:47:39,090
that he pushed the envelope just
to get the platform to show what

1854
01:47:39,090 --> 01:47:40,110
the problem was. Yes,

1855
01:47:40,140 --> 01:47:46,020
I agree. I think he did too.
Yeah, because he actually he did

1856
01:47:46,050 --> 01:47:49,470
he was he called me and said
don't come on the show anymore.

1857
01:47:51,930 --> 01:47:55,230
They tell you that no. Yeah, it
was this was a long time ago.

1858
01:47:56,040 --> 01:48:01,350
Not long time when I the last
time I canceled Yeah, I said as

1859
01:48:01,380 --> 01:48:03,450
I didn't want to go on the show.
He said I don't want you coming

1860
01:48:03,480 --> 01:48:05,400
on the show because they're
gonna go after your money.

1861
01:48:05,910 --> 01:48:12,510
That's what he literally said.
Philly, yeah. Yeah, he said

1862
01:48:12,510 --> 01:48:13,230
don't don't lose

1863
01:48:13,320 --> 01:48:15,900
I'll be nice of him to keep you
from going on the show. Of

1864
01:48:15,900 --> 01:48:18,690
course it was the only show once
or twice right? Yeah, but

1865
01:48:18,690 --> 01:48:20,880
he wanted me to come on the
show. I think I can't remember

1866
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:24,120
what it was for the last
substitution when he was oh yes

1867
01:48:24,120 --> 01:48:26,100
you're right you're right the
substitute you remember better

1868
01:48:26,100 --> 01:48:30,090
nine do Yeah. And I was like
well that and I said you really

1869
01:48:30,090 --> 01:48:31,560
shouldn't come on the show
because I was talking to his

1870
01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:33,810
producer and then he calls me
said nine they're gonna go after

1871
01:48:33,810 --> 01:48:36,360
you do don't do it. It's not
what you don't want it and I

1872
01:48:36,360 --> 01:48:41,640
think he Yes, I think he's a
probably does do that on purpose

1873
01:48:41,640 --> 01:48:44,700
for for making your point and
you got to appreciate that

1874
01:48:45,330 --> 01:48:49,350
I do. I mean, he doesn't doesn't
help him or anybody else but

1875
01:48:49,350 --> 01:48:54,450
yeah, I mean these payment
systems now we're gonna see

1876
01:48:54,450 --> 01:48:57,180
that's an it's it's an issue.

1877
01:48:58,440 --> 01:49:03,090
Bitcoin baby I hate to say hey,
let's how's that Bitcoin doing

1878
01:49:03,090 --> 01:49:05,850
Holy crap. People must be
jumping out of windows about

1879
01:49:05,850 --> 01:49:06,240
now.

1880
01:49:06,750 --> 01:49:09,420
Well, I feel sorry for the
people last Thanksgiving that

1881
01:49:09,420 --> 01:49:09,750
we're

1882
01:49:11,490 --> 01:49:14,880
going up to it was probably
15,000 Thanksgiving last year.

1883
01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:16,950
It wasn't it was going I was the
was the

1884
01:49:16,950 --> 01:49:19,350
year that according I think it
was Horowitz who had this

1885
01:49:19,350 --> 01:49:23,190
anecdote about all these
youngins, you know that Bitcoin

1886
01:49:23,190 --> 01:49:26,070
nutballs Going into their
Thanksgiving dinner with their

1887
01:49:26,700 --> 01:49:30,750
Lambo Bitcoin get them all get
them all jacked up all the old

1888
01:49:30,750 --> 01:49:33,090
folks jacked up about Bitcoin
and then they this

1889
01:49:33,090 --> 01:49:34,980
Thanksgivings. Gonna be a little
different.

1890
01:49:36,330 --> 01:49:37,380
You broke me,

1891
01:49:37,380 --> 01:49:42,480
son. I took your advice, and now
I'm broke being your mom or

1892
01:49:42,480 --> 01:49:44,070
living in a shelter.

1893
01:49:45,330 --> 01:49:50,850
So what is it now? It is now
4525. It was around six to the

1894
01:49:50,850 --> 01:49:57,090
last time. I mean, it was around
65 Two weeks ago. Here's my

1895
01:49:57,090 --> 01:49:59,910
favorite response. Let me see.
What's it really buddy? I think

1896
01:49:59,910 --> 01:50:02,370
you Right, it was yeah, it was
near Christmas time. You're

1897
01:50:02,370 --> 01:50:04,980
right. That's when I went up to
18,000 was 20,000.

1898
01:50:06,359 --> 01:50:10,049
Here's the response. I liked the
best. Hey, one bitcoin is still

1899
01:50:10,049 --> 01:50:13,229
worth one Bitcoin. It's my
favorite. It's my favorite

1900
01:50:13,229 --> 01:50:17,159
response. Because it's true. If
you use it purely as a

1901
01:50:17,159 --> 01:50:20,639
transmission mechanism, and
you're in and out, yeah, it's

1902
01:50:20,639 --> 01:50:25,439
fantastic. So much more
efficient than banking. Well,

1903
01:50:25,439 --> 01:50:25,769
no, but

1904
01:50:25,770 --> 01:50:27,930
the efficiency part is yes,

1905
01:50:27,930 --> 01:50:30,840
very efficient, you're going to
argue that that you can send

1906
01:50:30,840 --> 01:50:34,200
money within 20 minutes to
someone guaranteed through

1907
01:50:34,200 --> 01:50:37,560
Bitcoin versus three days
rigamarole with banks.

1908
01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:40,560
And the TARP money is pretty
efficient,

1909
01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:44,880
and not internationally. It
doesn't work internationally.

1910
01:50:46,800 --> 01:50:50,550
Could be No, it is. So I know,
because I have a daughter and we

1911
01:50:50,550 --> 01:50:54,090
transfer money, usually the
wrong way, but it's usually the

1912
01:50:54,090 --> 01:50:56,760
wrong way for me to her. That's
usually the bad the bad

1913
01:50:56,760 --> 01:50:57,690
transfer. Oh, yeah.

1914
01:50:57,690 --> 01:51:01,860
It's because you're financing
terrorism. Yeah,

1915
01:51:01,890 --> 01:51:04,770
it's so yes, it's a very
efficient payment

1916
01:51:04,770 --> 01:51:09,900
network. For that for not for
buying stuff. But for just

1917
01:51:09,900 --> 01:51:11,880
transferring money. I think it's
fantastic.

1918
01:51:12,930 --> 01:51:15,900
Apparently, in Canada, they also
have a problem with depression,

1919
01:51:17,010 --> 01:51:19,680
not the depression, which is
what we're talking about, we're

1920
01:51:19,680 --> 01:51:24,420
switching back to depression. So
the Canadians, I get a kick out

1921
01:51:24,420 --> 01:51:27,600
as I'm not going to do this
Canadian thing forever. But I

1922
01:51:27,600 --> 01:51:30,750
got kind of a kick out of some
of these stories. I want you to

1923
01:51:30,750 --> 01:51:34,770
play these clips about
depression, and play. They're

1924
01:51:34,800 --> 01:51:37,590
just one just another word for
love bought me

1925
01:51:38,340 --> 01:51:42,240
close to a million Canadians
live with depression that

1926
01:51:42,240 --> 01:51:46,080
actually resists treatment.
Shock Therapy has long been

1927
01:51:46,080 --> 01:51:48,390
considered an effective
approach, but it can come

1928
01:51:48,390 --> 01:51:51,060
obviously with serious side
effects. So doctors are

1929
01:51:51,060 --> 01:51:54,270
exploring less invasive
treatments that goes straight to

1930
01:51:54,270 --> 01:51:56,790
the source of the problem.
Kaspersky explains

1931
01:51:56,910 --> 01:52:00,810
it, it's hard to beat some
quality time with your son. You

1932
01:52:00,810 --> 01:52:04,020
can throw it a little bit harder
at me. For sky Sasselov. It's a

1933
01:52:04,020 --> 01:52:07,830
welcome break. Look at your
target. For the past several

1934
01:52:07,830 --> 01:52:11,010
years she struggled with
debilitating depression.

1935
01:52:11,130 --> 01:52:15,870
I don't even know how to explain
it because it's not angering.

1936
01:52:16,620 --> 01:52:19,020
It's it's frustrating.

1937
01:52:20,610 --> 01:52:24,450
Zasloff has what's known as
treatment resistant depression,

1938
01:52:24,750 --> 01:52:25,470
sorry,

1939
01:52:25,710 --> 01:52:26,730
interference.

1940
01:52:27,030 --> 01:52:29,760
She has major depressive
disorder, which has been chronic

1941
01:52:29,760 --> 01:52:33,720
going on for over seven years.
And she has either failed to

1942
01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:37,650
respond or fail to tolerate a
number of antidepressant

1943
01:52:37,650 --> 01:52:38,250
treatments.

1944
01:52:38,309 --> 01:52:41,699
So earlier this year, SalesLoft
tried something different,

1945
01:52:41,909 --> 01:52:45,299
agreeing to be part of a study
at Sunnybrook Hospital in

1946
01:52:45,299 --> 01:52:50,009
Toronto that uses a non invasive
approach to treating this kind

1947
01:52:50,009 --> 01:52:53,819
of depression. With her head
shaved and fitted with a

1948
01:52:53,819 --> 01:53:00,059
metallic headgear, Sasselov was
placed in an MRI. Once inside,

1949
01:53:00,059 --> 01:53:04,439
doctors then used ultrasound
beams to heat and disrupt the

1950
01:53:04,439 --> 01:53:10,199
precise part of the brain that
causes depression. Lack of it as

1951
01:53:10,229 --> 01:53:12,539
an adjustment to the circuits of
the brain.

1952
01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:16,740
And so the MRI guided focus
ultrasound goes directly to that

1953
01:53:16,740 --> 01:53:21,600
circuit makes a cut a lesion in
that circuit and stops it from

1954
01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:23,760
firing when it shouldn't be
firing. Holy

1955
01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:25,440
crap. It's not permanent.

1956
01:53:27,270 --> 01:53:36,540
Oh my god Clip of the Day. Clip.
lobotomy an actual a cyber

1957
01:53:36,540 --> 01:53:38,970
knife. Modern lobotomy.

1958
01:53:39,210 --> 01:53:43,440
Yes. Well, let's go to the next.
Wow, this is another one. This

1959
01:53:43,440 --> 01:53:47,100
is another another word for
electroshock therapy.

1960
01:53:47,640 --> 01:53:50,160
Other ways to treat the illness.

1961
01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:54,600
What you just heard was a very
high frequency magnetic pulse.

1962
01:53:54,630 --> 01:53:58,020
One of those is a brain
stimulation treatment that uses

1963
01:53:58,020 --> 01:54:01,650
magnets instead of electricity.
Use the seizure

1964
01:54:01,680 --> 01:54:07,980
magnetic seizure therapy was
really evolved out of this idea

1965
01:54:07,980 --> 01:54:12,330
that producing a seizure for
therapeutic purposes is very

1966
01:54:12,330 --> 01:54:13,590
effective and depression.

1967
01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:17,010
Damn.

1968
01:54:19,200 --> 01:54:21,150
just treating myself I like the

1969
01:54:21,150 --> 01:54:25,860
way they said lithotomy They
said is non invasive and non

1970
01:54:25,860 --> 01:54:27,360
invasive Gus it's good

1971
01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:30,810
because it just penetrated
through your skull with was

1972
01:54:30,810 --> 01:54:32,640
infrared laser. What

1973
01:54:32,640 --> 01:54:34,590
the hell are they just Sonic
Sonic?

1974
01:54:34,650 --> 01:54:37,590
Yeah. Oh, that's non invasive.
Well, it's I guess technically.

1975
01:54:39,300 --> 01:54:42,570
What is the definition of
invasive it doesn't leave a hole

1976
01:54:42,570 --> 01:54:44,130
I guess just a birthmark leave

1977
01:54:44,130 --> 01:54:49,110
a hole you know your holy crap.
Now this is to me is the classic

1978
01:54:49,110 --> 01:54:52,500
example of calling one thing
something else to make it make

1979
01:54:52,500 --> 01:54:56,430
it sound more sound. Listen to
this stuff. That's much better

1980
01:54:56,460 --> 01:55:02,910
because the same thing. Now I
want to just throw this in. But

1981
01:55:04,500 --> 01:55:08,490
I was looking into the history
of vasectomies. Not recently,

1982
01:55:08,490 --> 01:55:12,420
but some time ago, when I was
doing my vasectomy material. And

1983
01:55:12,420 --> 01:55:15,450
if you look into the history of
vasectomies, vasectomies work

1984
01:55:15,540 --> 01:55:23,250
were called the were used as a
substitute for, for what is

1985
01:55:23,250 --> 01:55:27,360
happening, you cut the balls
off, it's called a Punic. No,

1986
01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:29,250
you cut the balls off is a name
for that.

1987
01:55:30,690 --> 01:55:33,750
castrate castration. So.

1988
01:55:35,010 --> 01:55:38,970
Apparently, in the 20s, or I
think during our era, when we're

1989
01:55:38,970 --> 01:55:41,430
all on the dole, these eugenics
and all this stuff, the

1990
01:55:41,430 --> 01:55:45,150
Americans in particular, we
were, were castrating people,

1991
01:55:45,150 --> 01:55:48,570
especially, I think a lot of
blacks. And a lot of other

1992
01:55:48,570 --> 01:55:51,780
people in the south, mostly they
would they get into prison to

1993
01:55:51,780 --> 01:55:54,660
say, well, you're chasing around
the boys. And so we're gonna,

1994
01:55:54,810 --> 01:55:57,420
wasn't this part of the Eugenics
Society of America is

1995
01:55:57,420 --> 01:55:59,760
programmed, and they do that as
well. They may

1996
01:55:59,760 --> 01:56:03,000
have Yeah, maybe. So what
happened though, was when they

1997
01:56:03,000 --> 01:56:07,140
were castrating people, here,
they've knocked them out, and

1998
01:56:07,620 --> 01:56:09,270
they cut the nuts off, and then
they,

1999
01:56:09,660 --> 01:56:11,370
and then they throw a
Friendsgiving.

2000
01:56:13,230 --> 01:56:17,400
Take the nuts and cook them into
great. So then they guys

2001
01:56:17,400 --> 01:56:21,690
apparently were irked by this,
and they'd come in and track

2002
01:56:21,690 --> 01:56:25,770
down the doctor who cut their
nuts off and kill them. And this

2003
01:56:25,770 --> 01:56:29,670
is becoming a real problem for
if you're a doctor. So one

2004
01:56:29,670 --> 01:56:32,520
doctor who is I don't have the
details, because I don't have

2005
01:56:32,520 --> 01:56:35,610
this paperwork in front of me.
But there's a very famous doctor

2006
01:56:35,760 --> 01:56:41,790
who invented the vest SEC dummy,
as a substitute for castration.

2007
01:56:42,150 --> 01:56:46,320
Because it did the exact same
things. It calmed the guy down

2008
01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:48,840
and did all these things that
were this just essentially was a

2009
01:56:48,840 --> 01:56:53,160
castration, but with but it was
done inside the balls inside the

2010
01:56:53,160 --> 01:56:56,490
nut sack, too. So the guy would
notice that you could look wow,

2011
01:56:56,490 --> 01:56:59,460
I'm still good. And so he was
happy camper, he wouldn't go

2012
01:56:59,460 --> 01:57:03,660
kill the doctor, which he used
to do. So I'm so my commentary

2013
01:57:03,660 --> 01:57:06,720
about people can't have getting
themselves castrated by getting

2014
01:57:06,720 --> 01:57:09,900
a vasectomy. I don't think is
completely out of out of bounds.

2015
01:57:09,930 --> 01:57:10,500
No.

2016
01:57:12,570 --> 01:57:15,660
I'm Yes. Okay. Well, we I don't
want to spend too much time on

2017
01:57:15,660 --> 01:57:18,390
the vasectomy stuff and
castration. I'm still that the

2018
01:57:18,390 --> 01:57:21,960
lobotomy stage. And that this is
seen to be like some

2019
01:57:21,990 --> 01:57:25,710
breakthrough. This is not a
breakthrough. You need to run

2020
01:57:25,710 --> 01:57:29,460
away from this. Well, and is
this paid for by the great

2021
01:57:29,460 --> 01:57:34,500
Canadian health insurance? I'm
sure yeah. Well, I have a

2022
01:57:34,500 --> 01:57:38,250
companion story to that not as
funny but we do have some

2023
01:57:38,250 --> 01:57:38,880
issues.

2024
01:57:39,120 --> 01:57:42,900
A well known drug thought to
reduce PTSD symptoms and

2025
01:57:42,900 --> 01:57:46,980
suicidal thoughts could actually
make them worse. A new study

2026
01:57:46,980 --> 01:57:50,220
tracked patients who took
possession for eight weeks and

2027
01:57:50,220 --> 01:57:53,310
found the drug worsened
nightmares and didn't do much to

2028
01:57:53,310 --> 01:57:56,970
lessen suicidal thoughts. Two of
the participants had to undergo

2029
01:57:57,000 --> 01:58:00,840
emergency inpatient psychiatric
care, though no one attempted

2030
01:58:00,840 --> 01:58:04,080
suicide during the study. The
results backup a study from

2031
01:58:04,080 --> 01:58:07,050
earlier this year that also
showed precise and brought on

2032
01:58:07,080 --> 01:58:11,820
new or worsened suicidal
thoughts in 8% of military

2033
01:58:11,820 --> 01:58:14,160
veterans suffering from PTSD.

2034
01:58:14,220 --> 01:58:19,920
How about that? Some kind of big
farm of thing that is making it

2035
01:58:19,920 --> 01:58:21,840
worse instead of better
surprising?

2036
01:58:22,259 --> 01:58:24,929
Yeah, I'm stunned. Maybe they
should do how do you find

2037
01:58:24,929 --> 01:58:26,669
information like that? Maybe
they should

2038
01:58:26,670 --> 01:58:29,400
go over to Canada Navia and get
you want? What's the name of

2039
01:58:29,400 --> 01:58:32,790
that procedure? I don't know.
Come on with this eight

2040
01:58:32,790 --> 01:58:35,460
mentioned it in the clip. I
don't remember the mentioning

2041
01:58:35,460 --> 01:58:37,140
it. Yeah, I want to listen to
it. It goes to

2042
01:58:37,139 --> 01:58:41,609
a million Canadians live with
depression that actually resists

2043
01:58:41,609 --> 01:58:44,879
treatment. Right. therapy has
long been considered an

2044
01:58:44,879 --> 01:58:47,819
effective approach, but it can
come obviously with serious side

2045
01:58:47,819 --> 01:58:51,719
effects. So doctors are
exploring less invasive shock

2046
01:58:51,719 --> 01:58:52,109
therapy

2047
01:58:52,110 --> 01:58:54,840
still really a thing and people
use shock therapy still

2048
01:58:55,200 --> 01:58:58,470
well in Canada using it using
magnets because No, no, but

2049
01:58:59,100 --> 01:58:59,550
she's got

2050
01:58:59,550 --> 01:59:03,120
a jolt to that. But that still
happens today. Shock Therapy.

2051
01:59:03,300 --> 01:59:04,890
I believe it does segments

2052
01:59:04,890 --> 01:59:07,770
that goes straight to the source
of the problem. Catherine

2053
01:59:07,860 --> 01:59:08,400
explains.

2054
01:59:08,519 --> 01:59:12,539
It's hard to beat some quality
time with your son. You can

2055
01:59:12,539 --> 01:59:13,739
throw it a little bit harder at
me.

2056
01:59:14,580 --> 01:59:20,730
I'm really appreciating the
whole the whole clip now. You

2057
01:59:20,730 --> 01:59:24,090
know, throwing a ball with your
son back and forth. Just let us

2058
01:59:24,090 --> 01:59:27,330
do this non invasive thing. This
is almost a native ad for this

2059
01:59:27,330 --> 01:59:27,870
procedure.

2060
01:59:27,900 --> 01:59:31,890
Hi, Sasselov. It's a welcome
break. Look at your target. For

2061
01:59:31,890 --> 01:59:35,340
the past several years. She
struggled with debilitating

2062
01:59:35,340 --> 01:59:36,090
depression.

2063
01:59:36,180 --> 01:59:40,950
I don't even know how to explain
it because it's not angering.

2064
01:59:41,700 --> 01:59:44,070
It's it's frustrating.

2065
01:59:45,120 --> 01:59:46,800
Sounds like Trump's syndrome.

2066
01:59:48,960 --> 01:59:52,080
She sounds very very even keeled
here though. It's love.

2067
01:59:52,380 --> 01:59:54,900
When you look at her she's
totally a candidate for Trump's

2068
01:59:54,900 --> 01:59:55,320
syndrome.

2069
01:59:55,350 --> 01:59:57,810
Okay, Trump derangement
syndrome. You mean to Yes,

2070
01:59:57,840 --> 02:00:00,420
it's it's part straining.

2071
02:00:02,010 --> 02:00:05,790
Zaslav has what's known as
treatment resistant depression,

2072
02:00:06,750 --> 02:00:17,010
treatment, treatment resistant
depression, which means their

2073
02:00:17,010 --> 02:00:21,210
shit doesn't work on her
treatment resistant so it's TRD

2074
02:00:21,240 --> 02:00:23,130
sorry, interference

2075
02:00:23,519 --> 02:00:26,639
has major depressive disorder,
which has been chronic going on

2076
02:00:26,639 --> 02:00:27,989
for over seven years.

2077
02:00:28,080 --> 02:00:29,160
I watched up a second.

2078
02:00:31,050 --> 02:00:33,630
In the clip she started throwing
a ball back and forth with her

2079
02:00:33,630 --> 02:00:36,000
kid and she's, you know, saying
look at the target. She was

2080
02:00:36,000 --> 02:00:38,070
saying a bunch of dumb stuff
nobody does with a

2081
02:00:38,070 --> 02:00:40,860
good kid. That sounds like a kid
as a retard. That's a

2082
02:00:40,860 --> 02:00:41,400
providential

2083
02:00:41,400 --> 02:00:44,880
ClearOS the boys a little kid,
and so she throws the ball over

2084
02:00:44,880 --> 02:00:51,690
his head by mistake and he says,
Sorry, interference. interfere,

2085
02:00:51,690 --> 02:00:56,970
laming a non existent entity for
her fuckup Oh, so

2086
02:00:56,970 --> 02:00:59,970
it's like her treatment
resistant depression interfered.

2087
02:01:00,870 --> 02:01:04,020
I don't know what we interfere.
But it seems like she's one of

2088
02:01:04,020 --> 02:01:06,630
the get dibs of blame versus
blame everybody.

2089
02:01:07,050 --> 02:01:10,710
Wait, we need some disclaimers
for this treatment. invisible

2090
02:01:10,710 --> 02:01:14,370
forces may cause you to throw
things in weird directions. And

2091
02:01:14,370 --> 02:01:14,970
she has

2092
02:01:14,970 --> 02:01:18,870
either failed to respond or fail
to tolerate a number of

2093
02:01:18,870 --> 02:01:20,280
antidepressant treatments.

2094
02:01:20,339 --> 02:01:23,729
So earlier this year, SalesLoft
tried something different,

2095
02:01:23,939 --> 02:01:27,329
agreeing to be part of a study
at Sunnybrook Hospital in

2096
02:01:27,329 --> 02:01:32,039
Toronto that uses a non invasive
approach to treating this kind

2097
02:01:32,039 --> 02:01:32,789
of depression.

2098
02:01:33,810 --> 02:01:36,810
I like how they've categorized
treatment resistant depression

2099
02:01:36,810 --> 02:01:42,720
as as a kind of depression.
Isn't it just just you know,

2100
02:01:42,720 --> 02:01:45,990
just I don't know. Okay, non
invasive approach. I'm writing

2101
02:01:45,990 --> 02:01:46,500
this down

2102
02:01:46,620 --> 02:01:50,070
with her head shaved and fitted
with a metallic headgear,

2103
02:01:50,190 --> 02:01:56,250
Sasselov was placed in an MRI.
Once inside, doctors then used

2104
02:01:56,250 --> 02:02:00,600
ultrasound beams to heat and
disrupt the precise part of the

2105
02:02:00,600 --> 02:02:06,270
brain that causes depression.
Think of it as an adjustment to

2106
02:02:06,270 --> 02:02:07,620
the circuits of the brain

2107
02:02:07,890 --> 02:02:12,660
adjustment to the circuits of
the brain? Well, you know, this

2108
02:02:12,660 --> 02:02:13,800
is pioneering work.

2109
02:02:15,150 --> 02:02:18,150
Because you couldn't you
couldn't treat anybody with

2110
02:02:18,150 --> 02:02:21,000
stuff like this. They this is
we're going back to medieval

2111
02:02:21,000 --> 02:02:21,570
times.

2112
02:02:21,600 --> 02:02:25,560
So the MRI guided focus
ultrasound goes directly to that

2113
02:02:25,560 --> 02:02:30,090
circuit makes a cut or a lesion
in that circuit and stops it

2114
02:02:30,090 --> 02:02:32,910
from firing when it shouldn't be
fire. Fantastic.

2115
02:02:32,940 --> 02:02:36,810
That's just fantastic. This is
one of the best things I've

2116
02:02:36,810 --> 02:02:42,180
heard in weeks. Wow. Seriously,
I love this. We're going back to

2117
02:02:42,180 --> 02:02:47,310
medieval times rebranding it,
rebranding it. And then we're

2118
02:02:47,310 --> 02:02:49,590
just cutting people's levada
media you know, we're giving

2119
02:02:49,590 --> 02:02:52,500
them the bottom is what exactly
the cut out with a lobotomy.

2120
02:02:52,980 --> 02:02:55,680
He could have frontal lobe
frontal lobe Yeah.

2121
02:02:56,430 --> 02:02:57,120
Wow.

2122
02:02:58,740 --> 02:03:02,580
Yeah, they played all I'm
surprised was in some nice music

2123
02:03:02,580 --> 02:03:03,150
in the back.

2124
02:03:03,900 --> 02:03:07,200
I mean, I think I might maybe
obsessed with this now.

2125
02:03:07,950 --> 02:03:11,400
Noticing you really got into
this. Come on. This is crazy for

2126
02:03:11,400 --> 02:03:14,220
something I did not expect.
Well,

2127
02:03:16,170 --> 02:03:21,000
maybe I'm just old fashion but
the whole bottom II thing. And

2128
02:03:21,030 --> 02:03:22,590
didn't we kind of get rid of

2129
02:03:22,590 --> 02:03:25,830
that? Yeah, but it was actually
faddish for a while.

2130
02:03:26,670 --> 02:03:29,700
In recent in recent history, how
long ago were lobotomies

2131
02:03:29,700 --> 02:03:30,840
performed in?

2132
02:03:31,290 --> 02:03:35,040
And you know, they were
performed into the 50s. Ha. But

2133
02:03:35,040 --> 02:03:35,310
isn't

2134
02:03:35,310 --> 02:03:39,300
Don't you usually then become
like kind of docile and very

2135
02:03:39,300 --> 02:03:43,530
docile, very quiet? Yeah. Yeah,
it's a solution. It's a it's a

2136
02:03:43,530 --> 02:03:47,220
solution. It's hard fifl
solution for Canadia.

2137
02:03:48,960 --> 02:03:52,260
I'm gonna show my mood by
donating to no agenda. Imagine

2138
02:03:52,260 --> 02:03:54,960
all the people who could do
that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun.

2139
02:04:03,660 --> 02:04:07,440
Start to thank a few people here
for 1088 This is the precursor

2140
02:04:07,440 --> 02:04:12,420
to show 1089 which is 33
squared, which is a big deal.

2141
02:04:12,570 --> 02:04:18,330
Kailyn this store is at the top
of the list. $161.80. He says

2142
02:04:18,330 --> 02:04:24,750
Happy Turkey Day. Donald
Barofsky, Spokane Valley,

2143
02:04:24,750 --> 02:04:27,030
Washington 12345. And he sent a
note in the

2144
02:04:27,930 --> 02:04:31,230
Federation PayPal Federation
paper. Yeah, Federation

2145
02:04:31,230 --> 02:04:36,390
paper. Hey, guys, as we enter
the flat sea or the fat season,

2146
02:04:36,690 --> 02:04:40,050
thanksgiving to Christmas, I
offer some financial nourishment

2147
02:04:40,200 --> 02:04:44,970
in no agenda than in the no
agenda lean season. Let me

2148
02:04:44,970 --> 02:04:50,880
recommend a documentary. Human
zoos America's forgotten history

2149
02:04:50,880 --> 02:04:52,710
of scientific racism.

2150
02:04:54,660 --> 02:04:58,470
Yay. All right, look for it
sounds like a sounds like a

2151
02:04:58,470 --> 02:04:59,970
Saturday night rom com

2152
02:05:01,620 --> 02:05:05,940
Among other things they've
documented rom com. Among other

2153
02:05:05,940 --> 02:05:09,600
things, the documentary points
out that the ujet that eugenics

2154
02:05:09,600 --> 02:05:12,300
which we were just talking
about, was the scientific

2155
02:05:12,300 --> 02:05:17,760
consensus. All 97% of scientists
agree Yep, yeah in the 20s and

2156
02:05:17,760 --> 02:05:21,690
30s cheers and beers are Donald
at the fire bottles white count

2157
02:05:21,690 --> 02:05:25,080
of Eastern Washington wrath.
Yes. I should mention we got a

2158
02:05:25,080 --> 02:05:28,620
couple other notes on his read
quickly before I go on that list

2159
02:05:28,620 --> 02:05:32,220
isn't that long but we do have a
sir Timothy of the no fixed

2160
02:05:32,220 --> 02:05:36,630
title did a meet up hope he
hosted local ones first Chinese

2161
02:05:36,630 --> 02:05:40,740
restaurant. I got a box too.
Yes, we got these fortune

2162
02:05:40,740 --> 02:05:44,460
cookies that were no agenda
messages inside. It was really

2163
02:05:44,460 --> 02:05:47,970
great. And it's very fun. What
did you get? What did you get it

2164
02:05:47,970 --> 02:05:48,630
you got a kick out?

2165
02:05:48,719 --> 02:05:52,769
I got like some I got some
Manning stuff and I got

2166
02:05:55,139 --> 02:05:55,829
Sharpton?

2167
02:05:57,030 --> 02:06:00,450
Yes. And if you if you don't if
people just give these cookies

2168
02:06:00,450 --> 02:06:03,450
to someone, this is not a bad
idea. You just give them to

2169
02:06:03,450 --> 02:06:06,240
somebody and don't tell him what
the deal is. And he looked at

2170
02:06:06,240 --> 02:06:07,260
what Dow what

2171
02:06:07,290 --> 02:06:11,100
I mean, at least who's with us
for the break. She said I wish I

2172
02:06:11,100 --> 02:06:14,010
had like 100 of my dad. He'd be
handing them out to everybody.

2173
02:06:14,340 --> 02:06:17,970
Yeah, just for that exactly. For
that exact reasons. It would

2174
02:06:17,970 --> 02:06:18,900
what does this mean

2175
02:06:19,019 --> 02:06:23,849
as well short conference and in
a note, longtime producer that

2176
02:06:23,849 --> 02:06:26,909
has it was a little piece of
porcelain little bird that

2177
02:06:30,090 --> 02:06:31,620
I didn't get one of those
warbling

2178
02:06:31,620 --> 02:06:36,630
bird it's so loud. I really have
to go away away from the mic

2179
02:06:36,630 --> 02:06:40,260
because I know it's killing you.
But it's cute and I want to

2180
02:06:40,260 --> 02:06:44,490
thank him for that. Onward. Sir
Kevin McLaughlin, the vibe count

2181
02:06:44,490 --> 02:06:51,120
of Illumina and Locust North
Carolina $108.90 Zippy the

2182
02:06:51,120 --> 02:06:58,920
Pinhead in $108.80 II in field
100 Thomas Burke 100 Sir code

2183
02:06:58,920 --> 02:07:03,870
monkey and Renner, South Dakota
100. Allen D. Peterson. 100 Rose

2184
02:07:03,870 --> 02:07:09,540
Chavez in Scottsdale, Arizona
boob 808. And she says now you

2185
02:07:09,540 --> 02:07:15,840
have a fabulous pair. Boop,
boop. Sir Jonathan of the double

2186
02:07:15,840 --> 02:07:22,500
bladed paddle, and Maplewood.
Maplewood, Missouri is 73 is ke

2187
02:07:22,950 --> 02:07:31,800
00 ah t marque. Annabel 7053.
Sir Rick in Arlington,

2188
02:07:31,800 --> 02:07:41,280
Washington, 6996 Shawn Florian
and Walker Michigan 6969 Miguel

2189
02:07:41,280 --> 02:07:45,720
Lopez 6789 and Flanders New
Jersey Sir Tom bus shears in

2190
02:07:45,720 --> 02:07:51,420
Cookeville. Tennessee.
60 six.sixty.on APR 66 dot 60

2191
02:07:52,440 --> 02:07:55,320
Angela Castaneda in Henderson
Nevada.

2192
02:07:55,349 --> 02:07:56,579
God damn Angela.

2193
02:07:56,610 --> 02:08:04,470
Hey man. Hello 60 Andrew
Thompson 5678 He's donation the

2194
02:08:04,470 --> 02:08:06,000
night of the blue water area.

2195
02:08:07,440 --> 02:08:10,320
I hope Adam returned safely
safely from the tyranny of the

2196
02:08:10,320 --> 02:08:14,460
EU. Yes, it was tough. And they
scan my retinas on the way out.

2197
02:08:14,969 --> 02:08:19,349
Daniel Smith, double nickels on
the dime Chris Kincaid double

2198
02:08:19,349 --> 02:08:22,859
nickels on the dime. Jason Petri
double nickels on the dime with

2199
02:08:22,859 --> 02:08:27,629
a happy Thanksgiving. J Robert
Ballard in Redding, California

2200
02:08:27,629 --> 02:08:34,079
51 Sir Karl with a K Rochester
New York, David Corbyn who 5033

2201
02:08:34,079 --> 02:08:38,969
Sir Karl was 5033 to Andrew
bends 5005 from Imperial

2202
02:08:38,969 --> 02:08:43,649
Missouri. And finally, these are
all $50 donors name and location

2203
02:08:44,069 --> 02:08:47,309
starting with Patrick a Sir
Patrick may calm in New York.

2204
02:08:48,149 --> 02:08:51,779
Andrew Guzik in Greensboro,
North Carolina. Jason Ron and

2205
02:08:51,779 --> 02:08:56,819
ship bottom New Jersey. Ronald
sundarijal Parts Unknown George

2206
02:08:56,849 --> 02:09:01,559
White shit, I'm guessing in
Universal City, Texas. Where's

2207
02:09:01,559 --> 02:09:01,979
that

2208
02:09:02,280 --> 02:09:03,660
Universal City textile?

2209
02:09:05,550 --> 02:09:09,540
Chris Whitten in Middleborough,
Virginia I think is a shirt Sir

2210
02:09:09,540 --> 02:09:12,480
Sir other brother Norman,
Oklahoma, Sir John Hyde in

2211
02:09:12,480 --> 02:09:16,350
Folsom, California. Dennis price
and Pine Grove, California. Just

2212
02:09:16,350 --> 02:09:22,950
more. Allen Bose in Langley BC.
Gary Quinn and parts unknown.

2213
02:09:22,950 --> 02:09:26,940
And last but not least, Daniel
laboy in Bath Michigan want to

2214
02:09:26,940 --> 02:09:29,100
thank all these folks who are
supporting us and producing show

2215
02:09:29,100 --> 02:09:36,390
1089 the 1088 the precursor to
1089 which is 33 square air

2216
02:09:36,390 --> 02:09:40,080
that's the big show for Sunday.
33 squared Big Show big number.

2217
02:09:40,350 --> 02:09:42,990
A little bit of housekeeping
before we thank everyone under

2218
02:09:42,990 --> 02:09:49,260
$50 that we have had a spam
issue. It seems amongst a lot of

2219
02:09:49,260 --> 02:09:53,250
members of the no agenda family.
You're getting blamed for it.

2220
02:09:53,250 --> 02:09:56,760
It's not your fault, but I think
we both looked into this people

2221
02:09:56,760 --> 02:10:00,000
receiving an infected Word
document apparently coming from

2222
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:05,670
You wish it is not. Also your
machine is not infected. In

2223
02:10:05,670 --> 02:10:08,490
fact, I don't think has anything
to do with your email, other

2224
02:10:08,490 --> 02:10:11,160
than they're using your email
address as a

2225
02:10:12,330 --> 02:10:13,860
confidence hack.

2226
02:10:14,309 --> 02:10:18,959
Well, they are using old emails
sent into the show and sent from

2227
02:10:18,989 --> 02:10:21,029
other people up from about a
year ago.

2228
02:10:21,060 --> 02:10:25,830
Right? I think that's from
people's own machine. Oh, that

2229
02:10:25,830 --> 02:10:26,820
could be Yeah, I

2230
02:10:26,820 --> 02:10:31,740
think once you get once you get
the virus in a dock then you

2231
02:10:31,740 --> 02:10:35,400
start sending stuff i mean it
that goes back and forth between

2232
02:10:35,400 --> 02:10:38,790
people now too, it's like very
weird but at no point do I see

2233
02:10:38,790 --> 02:10:42,930
anywhere in the headers, your
email server your service or any

2234
02:10:42,930 --> 02:10:46,650
of them any of that use, but
it's really crap because

2235
02:10:46,680 --> 02:10:50,760
everyone is emailing me saying
John's got a virus.

2236
02:10:52,200 --> 02:10:55,380
There's they're really emailing
me too. Yeah.

2237
02:10:56,010 --> 02:10:58,980
Well, no, a lot of people are
afraid to email you and they

2238
02:10:58,980 --> 02:11:01,410
email me I'm afraid to email him
because I got a virus from him.

2239
02:11:02,910 --> 02:11:04,440
Oh, that's funny. No,

2240
02:11:04,470 --> 02:11:07,680
it's nice to get a virus usually
that dark file is it but it

2241
02:11:07,680 --> 02:11:08,550
doesn't work.

2242
02:11:09,450 --> 02:11:12,840
In it the thing is, if the
document was any good, you know,

2243
02:11:12,960 --> 02:11:16,200
first let's put it this way. If
there was a virus you know we'd

2244
02:11:16,200 --> 02:11:19,230
be putting donate to the show in
the in the in the attached

2245
02:11:19,230 --> 02:11:24,000
document. And it's like this in
some point, just some crappy as

2246
02:11:24,000 --> 02:11:27,360
document with a virus that I
think goes into it seems to work

2247
02:11:27,360 --> 02:11:31,650
with Outlook. And that goes in
and emails. It's an outlook

2248
02:11:31,650 --> 02:11:35,670
thing. Yeah, but somewhere the
headers are being rewritten or

2249
02:11:35,670 --> 02:11:37,920
not the headers aren't even
being rewritten just the reply

2250
02:11:37,920 --> 02:11:41,610
to or the from field is being
rewritten as from you, but the

2251
02:11:41,610 --> 02:11:44,430
entire path of the email has
nothing to do with you. It's

2252
02:11:44,430 --> 02:11:46,740
very destructive. I don't think
there's any way to stop it

2253
02:11:46,740 --> 02:11:47,190
really?

2254
02:11:47,700 --> 02:11:54,690
Yeah, I think it's some some
Devora hater some mac guy.us do

2255
02:11:54,690 --> 02:11:59,880
this to him because he's hates
the Mac. Oh, yeah. People hate

2256
02:11:59,880 --> 02:12:00,150
me.

2257
02:12:01,230 --> 02:12:03,930
Oh, well that's not okay. No

2258
02:12:05,700 --> 02:12:08,610
That's not nice. All right.
Well, so anyway, just everyone

2259
02:12:08,610 --> 02:12:12,150
knows we there's really not much
we can do with it.

2260
02:12:13,260 --> 02:12:15,720
Yeah, you said the board that
dark I'm not mailing anything

2261
02:12:15,720 --> 02:12:16,950
out that says that no.

2262
02:12:18,360 --> 02:12:21,090
And I've you know people I love
when people day I looked at this

2263
02:12:21,420 --> 02:12:26,820
document has nothing in it. I
sent a copy to Thanks. Thanks,

2264
02:12:26,820 --> 02:12:30,600
don't want that. Alright, so we
can't do much about that. But

2265
02:12:31,620 --> 02:12:36,600
eventually I think it'll go
away. If people stop emailing to

2266
02:12:36,600 --> 02:12:40,110
other people, it's probably a
good idea. And I would like to

2267
02:12:40,110 --> 02:12:42,810
thank everyone who's supported
the show today including those

2268
02:12:42,810 --> 02:12:45,960
under $50. Typically for reasons
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2269
02:12:45,960 --> 02:12:48,570
people on our subscriptions you
can check those out at

2270
02:12:48,570 --> 02:12:53,160
dvorak.org/n. A. It is very
important to keep the show it

2271
02:12:53,160 --> 02:12:55,890
just to keep it running. As you
can see we're here Thanksgiving

2272
02:12:55,890 --> 02:13:00,210
Day, not a holiday everywhere we
realize that so still reason to

2273
02:13:00,330 --> 02:13:03,600
bring you a show. And for the
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2274
02:13:03,600 --> 02:13:07,050
extra bonus although we have
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2275
02:13:07,050 --> 02:13:09,960
troll room today but
understandable. And again,

2276
02:13:09,990 --> 02:13:13,440
another show Sunday, please show
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02:13:13,440 --> 02:13:19,740
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02:13:23,490 --> 02:13:25,080
Let's vote for jobs.

2280
02:13:41,100 --> 02:13:45,180
And here is your list for today
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2281
02:13:45,180 --> 02:13:50,070
22nd of November 2018. As we
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2282
02:13:50,070 --> 02:13:52,590
that's for in the future we're
going to say that Andrew Davis

2283
02:13:52,860 --> 02:13:55,920
we didn't do this on the last
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2284
02:13:55,920 --> 02:14:00,420
birthday to his smokin hot wife
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2285
02:14:00,420 --> 02:14:03,270
Paul love we heard him earlier,
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2286
02:14:03,300 --> 02:14:07,980
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02:14:07,980 --> 02:14:11,760
Birthday to his smokin hot wife
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02:14:11,760 --> 02:14:14,070
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02:14:14,070 --> 02:14:19,860
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2290
02:14:19,860 --> 02:14:22,620
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2291
02:14:22,620 --> 02:14:25,290
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2292
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2293
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02:15:27,930 --> 02:15:31,620
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2311
02:15:31,620 --> 02:15:34,950
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It's what you do. We appreciate

2312
02:15:34,950 --> 02:15:36,600
it. direct.org/na

2313
02:15:37,860 --> 02:15:42,480
m Obama had a big conference a
big, big who how the Obama

2314
02:15:42,480 --> 02:15:43,350
Foundation?

2315
02:15:43,950 --> 02:15:47,640
Oh, yeah, here he goes. Do you
saw this? Now? But here's the

2316
02:15:47,640 --> 02:15:51,090
Obama going into direction
following in the footsteps of

2317
02:15:51,090 --> 02:15:52,740
Bill. Yeah, yes,

2318
02:15:53,009 --> 02:16:00,569
he does. Well, he might make
some money on it. Now, the Daily

2319
02:16:00,569 --> 02:16:06,029
Mail, interestingly, had this
big headline saying, Obama says

2320
02:16:06,029 --> 02:16:12,449
Trump has mommy issues. So I go
and I listened to their little

2321
02:16:12,449 --> 02:16:15,899
clip there that they've clipped
out of context. It was not at

2322
02:16:15,899 --> 02:16:16,979
all about Trump.

2323
02:16:18,750 --> 02:16:23,670
But it was kind of funny. It was
about climate change. And about

2324
02:16:23,700 --> 02:16:27,420
all of us. I mean, I didn't take
it as a dig at Trump. But that's

2325
02:16:27,420 --> 02:16:29,580
what the Daily Mail thought. But
here's what he said, But

2326
02:16:29,580 --> 02:16:35,070
emissions by, let's say 30%.
Without any. It's not like we'd

2327
02:16:35,070 --> 02:16:37,860
all have to go back to caves
and, you know,

2328
02:16:37,889 --> 02:16:41,129
live off fire, you know, you
know,

2329
02:16:41,520 --> 02:16:45,000
could have electricity and
smartphones and all that stuff.

2330
02:16:45,870 --> 02:16:49,320
Which would buy us probably
another 2030 years for that

2331
02:16:49,350 --> 02:16:52,230
technological breakthrough
that's necessary. The reason

2332
02:16:52,229 --> 02:16:55,769
we don't do it is blunt. What
are you talking about? Is there

2333
02:16:55,769 --> 02:17:00,149
a technological breakthrough
that's coming in 2030 years? Or

2334
02:17:00,149 --> 02:17:02,339
are we just going to start
nuclear now?

2335
02:17:04,200 --> 02:17:05,280
Talking about wait

2336
02:17:05,340 --> 02:17:08,970
probably another 2030 years for
that technological breakthrough?

2337
02:17:08,970 --> 02:17:15,630
That's necessary. The reason we
don't do it is because we are

2338
02:17:15,630 --> 02:17:27,810
still confused, blind. shrouded
with hate anger. What? Racism?

2339
02:17:30,300 --> 02:17:34,320
Mommy issues. I mean,

2340
02:17:34,710 --> 02:17:38,280
he may actually mean Trump there
to the insiders, the people who

2341
02:17:38,280 --> 02:17:41,160
are chuckling I guess but I
didn't take it that way. If he's

2342
02:17:41,160 --> 02:17:43,830
just gonna be talking about all
of us. We're all Yeah, he's

2343
02:17:43,830 --> 02:17:45,150
basically reading Twitter.

2344
02:17:46,770 --> 02:18:00,720
You know, we are with stuff and
and so if that's the case, then

2345
02:18:00,780 --> 02:18:06,960
the single most important thing
that we have to invest in is not

2346
02:18:07,680 --> 02:18:12,570
all and look I'm a huge
supporter of science and

2347
02:18:12,660 --> 02:18:18,210
technological research and
social science and evidence

2348
02:18:18,240 --> 02:18:23,070
based learning all that good
stuff. I'm good stuff. People

2349
02:18:23,070 --> 02:18:25,230
call me Spock for a reason. I
believe

2350
02:18:25,230 --> 02:18:29,490
Hold on. When did people start
calling him Spock for a reason?

2351
02:18:30,360 --> 02:18:34,320
Nobody calls him Spock he says
he said right there people come

2352
02:18:34,320 --> 02:18:35,790
you Spock for a reason.

2353
02:18:36,689 --> 02:18:42,059
Damn thing and all that good
stuff. I'm people call me Spock

2354
02:18:42,059 --> 02:18:45,299
for a reason. I believe in
reason and logic and all these

2355
02:18:45,299 --> 02:18:46,109
enlightenment values.

2356
02:18:47,040 --> 02:18:52,230
I've never heard anyone call him
Spock, because he's so reasoned,

2357
02:18:52,260 --> 02:18:54,930
but Brainiac, but really,

2358
02:18:55,110 --> 02:18:59,940
we have to invest in is people.
We got to get people to figure

2359
02:18:59,940 --> 02:19:08,400
out how they work together in a
breakthrough how do we get

2360
02:19:08,400 --> 02:19:12,570
people to work together in a
cooperative, thoughtful,

2361
02:19:12,600 --> 02:19:14,700
constructive way sucking in
sick.

2362
02:19:15,029 --> 02:19:19,079
So I played that clip just to
play the next clip. Because what

2363
02:19:19,079 --> 02:19:23,429
he's saying here is we will all
die, we will not make it out of

2364
02:19:23,429 --> 02:19:27,149
the climate change hellhole or
we all are terminated by

2365
02:19:27,179 --> 02:19:31,979
excessive heat with our iPhones
because we can keep them because

2366
02:19:31,979 --> 02:19:34,739
people don't work together
because we haven't figured out

2367
02:19:34,739 --> 02:19:39,209
how to work together. And then
he goes into tell you a history

2368
02:19:39,539 --> 02:19:44,249
of his political career in a
nutshell two minutes and and and

2369
02:19:44,249 --> 02:19:48,449
how he works together with
everybody. Or did he here's

2370
02:19:48,449 --> 02:19:49,049
here's the interesting

2371
02:19:49,050 --> 02:19:52,470
thing that happens when you're
president or when you go through

2372
02:19:52,470 --> 02:19:53,580
the experience of being
President.

2373
02:19:57,210 --> 02:20:00,840
So I'm not sure why that's funny
to say Here's what the

2374
02:20:00,840 --> 02:20:03,210
interesting thing about
President or when you go being

2375
02:20:03,210 --> 02:20:06,810
going through the experience of
being President, I'm not, maybe

2376
02:20:06,810 --> 02:20:09,090
I missed something in the
context, but people thought that

2377
02:20:09,090 --> 02:20:09,540
was funny.

2378
02:20:09,570 --> 02:20:11,850
Here's here's the interesting
thing that happens when you're

2379
02:20:11,850 --> 02:20:14,970
president or when you go through
the experience of being

2380
02:20:14,970 --> 02:20:19,710
President. So

2381
02:20:20,040 --> 02:20:21,090
why was that funny?

2382
02:20:21,420 --> 02:20:24,360
Do you have any idea what he's
saying? I think what his

2383
02:20:24,360 --> 02:20:27,270
audience is thinking he's
saying, he's trying to say it,

2384
02:20:27,300 --> 02:20:31,710
but he's not saying is that I
was President Donald Trump just

2385
02:20:31,710 --> 02:20:33,900
went through the experience.
He's not president. He's not my

2386
02:20:33,900 --> 02:20:35,400
president. He's no good. Got

2387
02:20:35,400 --> 02:20:38,430
it. Got it. Remember, we're
talking about working together

2388
02:20:38,820 --> 02:20:42,630
with people you may not agree
with working together to save

2389
02:20:42,630 --> 02:20:44,460
humanity. Here's how he did it.

2390
02:20:46,590 --> 02:20:49,110
So you start off, you know,
you're a community organizer,

2391
02:20:49,110 --> 02:20:52,260
and you're struggling to try to
get people to recognize each

2392
02:20:52,260 --> 02:20:55,290
other's common interests, and
you're trying to get some

2393
02:20:55,290 --> 02:20:59,580
project done in a small
community, and you start

2394
02:20:59,580 --> 02:21:03,300
thinking, okay, you know, what,
this Ottomans knucklehead, and

2395
02:21:03,810 --> 02:21:06,960
they're resistant to doing the
right thing. And so I need to

2396
02:21:07,080 --> 02:21:11,460
get more knowledge, more power,
more influence, to work

2397
02:21:11,460 --> 02:21:14,070
together, and I can really have
an impact. And so you go to the

2398
02:21:14,070 --> 02:21:18,840
state legislature, and you look
around, and this is Jim oaks.

2399
02:21:18,930 --> 02:21:24,930
Whoa, whoa, using our word. Your
word in particular lots I say

2400
02:21:24,960 --> 02:21:27,960
our because I got it from Tina.
So maybe it's a Chicago thing.

2401
02:21:28,710 --> 02:21:32,520
Jim oaks? Okay. Maybe could be.

2402
02:21:33,150 --> 02:21:36,540
So you know, he didn't work with
people as a community organizer.

2403
02:21:36,540 --> 02:21:40,830
Most of the day was dumb. Yeah.
Because they're knuckleheads no

2404
02:21:40,830 --> 02:21:44,520
good. So I needed more power,
more power. So I went to Senate,

2405
02:21:44,670 --> 02:21:46,110
and then there's just Jumoke. So

2406
02:21:46,110 --> 02:21:48,630
and so that I can really have an
impact. And so you go to the

2407
02:21:48,630 --> 02:21:50,190
state legislature and

2408
02:21:51,090 --> 02:21:52,620
state legislature Sark around

2409
02:21:53,460 --> 02:21:58,170
these Jim oaks, maybe not all of
them, but I'm just saying, you

2410
02:21:58,170 --> 02:22:02,130
know, you start getting that
sense of this is just like

2411
02:22:02,130 --> 02:22:06,240
dealing with the Ultimen. Right.
So I got to do something

2412
02:22:06,240 --> 02:22:06,930
different. So you,

2413
02:22:07,260 --> 02:22:10,530
so then you make sure there's a
sex scandal, including a

2414
02:22:10,530 --> 02:22:13,320
celebrity so you can get a
Senate seat free by getting

2415
02:22:13,320 --> 02:22:16,140
kicked out all kinds of backroom
dealings. So presto, your

2416
02:22:16,140 --> 02:22:16,680
Senator,

2417
02:22:16,890 --> 02:22:21,990
then you go to the US Senate,
and you're looking around, and

2418
02:22:21,990 --> 02:22:23,070
they're like, oh, man,

2419
02:22:23,100 --> 02:22:26,430
oh, what a white, let's work
together, everybody working

2420
02:22:26,430 --> 02:22:27,330
together and you.

2421
02:22:28,620 --> 02:22:30,960
And then when you're president,
you're sitting in these

2422
02:22:31,020 --> 02:22:34,200
international meetings, and it's
like the G 20. And you got all

2423
02:22:34,200 --> 02:22:36,870
these world leaders. And it's
the same people.

2424
02:22:39,270 --> 02:22:43,170
That's how you work together.
That's how we save the world by

2425
02:22:43,170 --> 02:22:45,300
calling people names. That's
perfect.

2426
02:22:47,610 --> 02:22:51,330
For him what he thinks
everyone's an idiot, but him.

2427
02:22:52,020 --> 02:22:53,160
That's exactly right.

2428
02:22:53,430 --> 02:23:00,840
You got all these world leaders.
And it's the same people. Which

2429
02:23:00,840 --> 02:23:05,730
is really interesting. Same
dynamics. It's just that there's

2430
02:23:05,730 --> 02:23:11,820
a bigger spotlight, there's a
bigger stage. But I'm only

2431
02:23:11,820 --> 02:23:18,150
partly joking about that. The
the nature of human dynamics

2432
02:23:18,150 --> 02:23:24,450
does not change from level to
level. Which is why I've been

2433
02:23:24,450 --> 02:23:27,030
quoted saying this sometimes.
Okay.

2434
02:23:27,359 --> 02:23:29,939
What do you think he's about to
quote, which he's been quoted

2435
02:23:29,939 --> 02:23:30,929
many times,

2436
02:23:31,439 --> 02:23:32,219
apparently,

2437
02:23:33,570 --> 02:23:35,670
W. E. B. Dubois,

2438
02:23:35,940 --> 02:23:41,070
most of what you need to learn,
you can actually just read Dr.

2439
02:23:41,070 --> 02:23:41,580
Seuss.

2440
02:23:42,900 --> 02:23:45,180
Dr. Seuss, Dr. Seuss,

2441
02:23:45,660 --> 02:23:49,230
because, you know, there's the
story of the sneetches. And

2442
02:23:49,230 --> 02:23:53,910
like, people, the sneetches have
the ones with stars think that

2443
02:23:53,910 --> 02:23:56,220
the better than the ones who
don't have stars, and they got

2444
02:23:56,220 --> 02:24:00,900
an attitude. And you know,
there's the Lorax is trying to

2445
02:24:01,290 --> 02:24:05,610
tell people don't cut down the
trees, because then the fish are

2446
02:24:05,610 --> 02:24:13,140
gonna die, right? I mean, it's
all pretty much there. And the

2447
02:24:13,140 --> 02:24:13,800
reason

2448
02:24:17,610 --> 02:24:22,140
a perfect example of how working
together can save us from the

2449
02:24:22,140 --> 02:24:24,990
death of climate change with
their iPhones will be able to

2450
02:24:24,990 --> 02:24:27,660
keep them with some
technological revolution. 30

2451
02:24:27,660 --> 02:24:28,080
years.

2452
02:24:29,550 --> 02:24:32,130
I'm surprised doctor says it.
Well, we'll talk about that at

2453
02:24:32,130 --> 02:24:36,420
some other show. But he did a
lot of racist cartoons in World

2454
02:24:36,420 --> 02:24:37,140
War Two.

2455
02:24:37,949 --> 02:24:39,059
I miss Obama.

2456
02:24:40,530 --> 02:24:43,650
So I'm watching Democracy Now.
They have an interview with this

2457
02:24:43,650 --> 02:24:45,720
guy, Ronan Bergman.

2458
02:24:47,580 --> 02:24:48,450
And

2459
02:24:50,310 --> 02:24:54,330
he wrote a book he said Israeli
journalists and investigative

2460
02:24:54,330 --> 02:24:57,030
journalists. He wrote a book
about Israeli assassinations.

2461
02:24:57,060 --> 02:24:57,960
I thought homeless.

2462
02:24:59,010 --> 02:25:02,160
No, not about how Hey, Thomas

2463
02:25:02,220 --> 02:25:05,430
and we have a new brand. It's
hush shocked you homeless?

2464
02:25:07,770 --> 02:25:08,490
Anyway,

2465
02:25:09,510 --> 02:25:12,240
and I got a kick out of this
bonehead question that was asked

2466
02:25:12,240 --> 02:25:18,630
him. Because if you listen to
this question, the guy this is

2467
02:25:18,630 --> 02:25:21,960
that day Sanchez, whatever the
guy's name is on Democracy Now

2468
02:25:21,960 --> 02:25:27,750
the guy writes for the post, I
think. And he traces this

2469
02:25:27,750 --> 02:25:30,780
question as I'm listening to it.
I'm saying he's describing our

2470
02:25:30,780 --> 02:25:36,240
country. And this is bonehead
question on D. And

2471
02:25:37,140 --> 02:25:40,890
from the, from the outset, the
Israeli intelligence from the

2472
02:25:40,890 --> 02:25:45,180
outset, occupied a shadowy
realm, one adjacent to yet

2473
02:25:45,180 --> 02:25:48,600
separate from the country's
democratic institutions, the

2474
02:25:48,600 --> 02:25:52,020
activities of the intelligence
community, most of it, Shin bed

2475
02:25:52,020 --> 02:25:55,170
and the Mossad, under the direct
command of the Prime Minister

2476
02:25:55,170 --> 02:25:58,830
took place without any effective
supervision by Israel's

2477
02:25:58,830 --> 02:26:03,480
parliament, the Knesset, or by
any other independent external

2478
02:26:03,480 --> 02:26:07,530
bodies. What damage has been
done to the democratic

2479
02:26:07,710 --> 02:26:11,850
institutions of Israel as a
result of this almost parallel

2480
02:26:12,150 --> 02:26:14,280
situation instead of the
civilian controlling the

2481
02:26:14,280 --> 02:26:17,040
military was almost as if the
military or the intelligence

2482
02:26:17,040 --> 02:26:18,690
community controlled the
government.

2483
02:26:19,770 --> 02:26:23,670
You mean, like the military
industrial complex controls

2484
02:26:23,670 --> 02:26:29,280
Trump or adversely the CIA
controls? Obama? Oh, gee, that

2485
02:26:29,280 --> 02:26:32,400
doesn't happen everywhere. I'm
so surprised. It

2486
02:26:32,400 --> 02:26:36,060
was funny to listen to this
question. Now, that guy, nobody

2487
02:26:36,060 --> 02:26:39,960
sees the irony of this question,
because this is it's essentially

2488
02:26:39,960 --> 02:26:45,240
the same as when Ron Paul said
the CIA took over the country

2489
02:26:45,240 --> 02:26:52,020
and 62 of today assassinated
Kennedy. And we ended you have

2490
02:26:52,020 --> 02:26:54,810
the shadow government, which
seems to be running on his own

2491
02:26:54,990 --> 02:26:57,390
juices, because you know,
they're against the president,

2492
02:26:57,390 --> 02:27:01,020
they have all these issues. But
nobody sees the irony of the way

2493
02:27:01,020 --> 02:27:03,540
he asked the question. And so
the guy even the guy Bergman,

2494
02:27:03,600 --> 02:27:06,360
when he answers the question
doesn't quite see it. And he

2495
02:27:06,360 --> 02:27:09,060
kind of answers it straight.
Well, a few

2496
02:27:09,060 --> 02:27:11,850
things. First, Israel is a
liberal democracy in the Middle

2497
02:27:11,850 --> 02:27:17,790
East, but Israel also faces
severe threats, and living under

2498
02:27:17,790 --> 02:27:21,480
the trauma of the Holocaust. And
I think that the the new

2499
02:27:21,480 --> 02:27:24,360
Israelis, the Jews who lived in
Palestine, who are those who

2500
02:27:24,360 --> 02:27:26,310
came from the Holocaust and
established the State of Israel,

2501
02:27:26,310 --> 02:27:29,460
they drew three main lessons
from the Holocaust first, that

2502
02:27:29,460 --> 02:27:31,770
they will always someone there
will always be someone who wants

2503
02:27:31,770 --> 02:27:35,490
to kill them, that the other non
Jews would not do anything to

2504
02:27:35,490 --> 02:27:38,850
help. And third is that they
need to have Israel a safe haven

2505
02:27:38,850 --> 02:27:41,670
of refuge and guarded with
wherever possible. Now, when you

2506
02:27:41,670 --> 02:27:45,240
have this at the back of your
mind, and every decade, your

2507
02:27:45,240 --> 02:27:48,810
prime nemesis, your chief
adversary, Nasser of Egypt,

2508
02:27:48,810 --> 02:27:51,960
Saddam Hussein of Iraq, Yasser
Arafat, Ahmadinejad of Iran,

2509
02:27:52,170 --> 02:27:55,710
when they want to eliminate you,
or call for your destruction and

2510
02:27:55,710 --> 02:28:00,150
take physical actions to do
this, then you are left with

2511
02:28:00,210 --> 02:28:02,580
basically one conclusion of
these rallies, we're left with

2512
02:28:02,580 --> 02:28:06,090
one conclusion rise and kill
first paying very little tribute

2513
02:28:06,090 --> 02:28:10,020
to international law
international norms. And

2514
02:28:10,290 --> 02:28:14,820
building these two sets of law,
one for regular matters, and one

2515
02:28:14,820 --> 02:28:18,060
for the intelligence community
and the in the military.

2516
02:28:18,270 --> 02:28:22,530
Yes. It's how you undermine our
democracy, our democratic

2517
02:28:22,530 --> 02:28:24,930
institutions of intelligence
agencies.

2518
02:28:25,470 --> 02:28:26,820
Yeah, geez.

2519
02:28:27,270 --> 02:28:30,150
Rise and kill first is the name
of the book and people want to

2520
02:28:30,180 --> 02:28:33,630
might want to look at it. I have
two more clips from this guy, if

2521
02:28:33,630 --> 02:28:37,320
you're interested in one of
them, is about the assassination

2522
02:28:37,320 --> 02:28:41,220
of Arafat, even though he didn't
wasn't technically assassinated.

2523
02:28:42,000 --> 02:28:44,460
And so they asked him about this
because he documents all these

2524
02:28:44,460 --> 02:28:48,900
murders, one after the other in
his book, claiming that Israel's

2525
02:28:48,900 --> 02:28:52,680
killed more people and I think
included all the drone strikes

2526
02:28:52,680 --> 02:28:57,240
out. Obama did as being just a
kind of a murderous regime. This

2527
02:28:57,240 --> 02:28:57,930
guy is

2528
02:28:58,260 --> 02:28:59,160
Arab or Jew

2529
02:29:00,120 --> 02:29:06,120
is do you just check his plate,
killing Arafat? Yes,

2530
02:29:06,630 --> 02:29:12,030
it dates back to 1968. Shortly
after Arafat was appointed not

2531
02:29:12,030 --> 02:29:14,730
just the chief of Fattah, but
the chief of the umbrella

2532
02:29:14,730 --> 02:29:17,250
organization called the PLO, the
Palestinian Liberation

2533
02:29:17,250 --> 02:29:21,240
Organization. And the IDF
Israeli Defense Forces were

2534
02:29:21,240 --> 02:29:24,540
desperate they were sending
Arafat and the PLO was sending

2535
02:29:24,540 --> 02:29:27,630
groups of terrorists from Jordan
to Israel. They couldn't catch

2536
02:29:27,630 --> 02:29:32,310
them. They couldn't catch him
and attempt to invade Jordan and

2537
02:29:32,310 --> 02:29:36,510
kill them end up in a
catastrophe. And then this the

2538
02:29:36,510 --> 02:29:40,260
chief psychiatrist of the
Israeli Navy came with what he

2539
02:29:40,260 --> 02:29:42,840
said is a solution he saw that
movie American will be the

2540
02:29:42,840 --> 02:29:47,400
Manchurian Candidate and said I
can do the same. I can take a

2541
02:29:47,400 --> 02:29:53,070
Palestinian hypnotize him Jason
Bourne style, program him and

2542
02:29:53,070 --> 02:29:59,250
send him to Jordan to kill
Yasser Arafat and believe it or

2543
02:29:59,250 --> 02:30:02,430
not, The Chiefs of Israeli
intelligence, military

2544
02:30:02,430 --> 02:30:05,490
intelligence and masa took that
very seriously. They gave him a

2545
02:30:05,490 --> 02:30:09,690
Palestinian prisoner who fit the
profile that the psychiatrist

2546
02:30:09,690 --> 02:30:12,720
thought would be suitable for
such a process. They gave him a

2547
02:30:12,720 --> 02:30:16,200
training facility with live
ammunition. And for months he

2548
02:30:16,200 --> 02:30:19,920
trained that person until one
night he said, Okay, he's, he's

2549
02:30:19,950 --> 02:30:23,010
okay, he's done. He's fully
programmed that Palestinian

2550
02:30:23,040 --> 02:30:26,760
crossed the Jordan River, and
after crossing, he signaled a

2551
02:30:26,760 --> 02:30:32,550
gun and okay to his master to a
psychiatrist, and he carried the

2552
02:30:32,550 --> 02:30:37,590
gun in a walkie talkie wireless
communication device. And the

2553
02:30:37,590 --> 02:30:40,860
psychiatrist said he is now
going to kill Arafat. This was

2554
02:30:40,860 --> 02:30:45,810
something like 1am and 5am. In
the morning, the operatives of

2555
02:30:45,810 --> 02:30:48,960
Israeli intelligence received a
report from another agent said

2556
02:30:48,990 --> 02:30:52,110
that someone a Palestinian came
to a Jordanian police station

2557
02:30:52,470 --> 02:30:55,680
and told the policeman the
stupid Israelis thought that

2558
02:30:55,680 --> 02:30:59,820
they hypnotized me. But I was
just playing a role. I'm loyal

2559
02:30:59,820 --> 02:31:03,900
to Arafat, please take me to Abu
Omar to Asafa to swear Legion to

2560
02:31:03,900 --> 02:31:06,690
the Palestinian Authority. Now
this is a bit you know,

2561
02:31:06,690 --> 02:31:10,440
sometimes it's rarely James Bond
looks more like inspector clues.

2562
02:31:10,440 --> 02:31:14,070
Oh, is a bit of a funny story.
But the other stories were less

2563
02:31:14,070 --> 02:31:18,000
funny. Israel tries to kill our
foot numerous times.

2564
02:31:18,180 --> 02:31:22,830
And ironically, they ultimately
succeed. There are of course

2565
02:31:22,830 --> 02:31:25,590
many questions about Arafat's
final death, whether it was

2566
02:31:25,590 --> 02:31:26,460
natural or not.

2567
02:31:29,070 --> 02:31:31,710
So I thought that was amusing.
Well, yeah,

2568
02:31:31,740 --> 02:31:35,430
the guy just went I was actually
waiting for it to be Hey, you

2569
02:31:35,430 --> 02:31:38,190
know, they tried to hypnotize me
didn't work. Take me to Arafah

2570
02:31:38,190 --> 02:31:38,880
and then he kills him.

2571
02:31:39,480 --> 02:31:42,360
Yeah, but that didn't that
didn't happen. Now, if you want

2572
02:31:42,360 --> 02:31:46,020
to hear the rest of it was yes.
Yes, I do. I need some

2573
02:31:46,020 --> 02:31:49,050
resolution. Another story about
killing Arif at the gateway

2574
02:31:49,110 --> 02:31:53,520
should did the Israelis actually
do it or not? And this is his

2575
02:31:53,520 --> 02:31:54,210
ex, but no, let's

2576
02:31:54,210 --> 02:31:57,420
just just from the top of my
head from memory, wasn't he kind

2577
02:31:57,420 --> 02:32:03,510
of like in some kind of standoff
and his his camp was surrounded.

2578
02:32:05,460 --> 02:32:07,440
He died of some some strange
disease,

2579
02:32:07,470 --> 02:32:09,630
right. But I thought I thought
it was something that he was

2580
02:32:09,690 --> 02:32:13,020
everything was surrounded and he
died from that disease inside

2581
02:32:13,020 --> 02:32:15,720
kind of a surrounded compound.
Am I remembering that correctly?

2582
02:32:15,720 --> 02:32:16,260
I don't know that.

2583
02:32:16,439 --> 02:32:21,299
You just add that they tried
many times. And the peak of that

2584
02:32:21,299 --> 02:32:26,279
was nine in 1982. When Ariel
Sharon Israeli Minister of

2585
02:32:26,279 --> 02:32:30,179
Defense datetime ordered to take
down a commercial airline with

2586
02:32:30,179 --> 02:32:33,599
hundreds of passengers on board
in order to kill Yasser Arafat.

2587
02:32:34,049 --> 02:32:39,419
But the the chiefs of Israeli
Air Force rebelled against Him.

2588
02:32:39,599 --> 02:32:41,969
And they wanted, they didn't
want Israel to be staying in

2589
02:32:41,969 --> 02:32:44,729
this horrific war crimes. And
they didn't want to violate the

2590
02:32:44,729 --> 02:32:48,539
War of the ethics of war of the
peace of the IDF. And they

2591
02:32:48,539 --> 02:32:51,749
prevented the operations from
from happening to your

2592
02:32:51,749 --> 02:32:57,179
questions. To your question.
There is an ambiguity and a few

2593
02:32:57,209 --> 02:33:01,139
different reports about that.
Let me just tell you that a few

2594
02:33:01,139 --> 02:33:05,579
months before Alpha demise,
mysterious demise, Israeli Prime

2595
02:33:05,579 --> 02:33:08,309
Minister Ariel Sharon met with
President Bush at the White

2596
02:33:08,309 --> 02:33:11,669
House, the President told him,
Mr. Prime Minister, we heard

2597
02:33:11,939 --> 02:33:14,549
that there are plans that you
have plans to kill Yasser

2598
02:33:14,549 --> 02:33:18,239
Arafat. And we want you to
promise us to promise me that

2599
02:33:18,239 --> 02:33:23,339
you will not assassinate Arafat.
And Ariel Sharon said. I see

2600
02:33:23,339 --> 02:33:26,639
your point, Mr. President. Now,
President, of course, I

2601
02:33:26,669 --> 02:33:29,609
understand it's not the promise
that I really want you to, to

2602
02:33:29,609 --> 02:33:33,989
promise me that you will not do
that. To which Sharon said, Mr.

2603
02:33:33,989 --> 02:33:37,859
President, you are making a very
strong argument. But the press

2604
02:33:37,859 --> 02:33:42,809
didn't let it go until Prime
Minister Sharon promised in his

2605
02:33:42,809 --> 02:33:46,109
voice that he will not kill our
fat a few months later, alpha

2606
02:33:46,109 --> 02:33:52,679
dies of a mysterious disease.
And I think in time, we will

2607
02:33:52,679 --> 02:33:56,039
have the opportunity to tell the
story behind that in the

2608
02:33:56,039 --> 02:33:59,189
meantime, the Palestinians are
convinced, of course, that the

2609
02:33:59,189 --> 02:34:03,299
Mossad or Israeli intelligence
killed him. The reason to hide

2610
02:34:03,899 --> 02:34:08,669
the real story was not because
of the Palestinians. But this

2611
02:34:08,699 --> 02:34:15,089
because this would be a striking
violation to a very clear

2612
02:34:15,089 --> 02:34:17,429
promise by Israeli prime
minister to an American

2613
02:34:17,429 --> 02:34:17,939
president.

2614
02:34:22,650 --> 02:34:26,580
Is that mind? Is that is his
book about Arafat or what is his

2615
02:34:26,580 --> 02:34:27,180
book about?

2616
02:34:27,810 --> 02:34:31,830
That all is a document of all
the assassinations the Israelis

2617
02:34:31,830 --> 02:34:35,400
have done and homeless and
homicidal homeless in there.

2618
02:34:36,090 --> 02:34:39,180
I can read that. I'm just
looking at the theories of

2619
02:34:39,180 --> 02:34:41,040
Arafat's death. There's quite a
number of them.

2620
02:34:41,609 --> 02:34:45,299
Yeah. Interesting. All right.

2621
02:34:46,230 --> 02:34:49,470
I don't have that. That was a
lightning. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

2622
02:34:50,370 --> 02:34:56,430
Very, very in light. It's light
hearted to just a final final

2623
02:34:56,430 --> 02:34:58,470
thing because the papers were
filled with it when I was

2624
02:34:58,470 --> 02:35:04,380
leaving. leaving London is that
mi six is very worried about

2625
02:35:05,070 --> 02:35:10,590
what would be disclosed if
President Trump should actually

2626
02:35:10,620 --> 02:35:16,440
open up a lot of this Russia,
Russia gate investigation. In

2627
02:35:16,440 --> 02:35:21,690
particular, what role Am I six
British intelligence played in

2628
02:35:21,990 --> 02:35:26,730
helping I think, put together
the report that led to Carter

2629
02:35:26,730 --> 02:35:34,110
pages wiretap and a couple other
issues. Right. And this is, of

2630
02:35:34,110 --> 02:35:38,460
course, not being really
reported on much at all as not

2631
02:35:38,460 --> 02:35:41,040
here at New York Times. Anyone
done anything Wall Street

2632
02:35:41,040 --> 02:35:44,040
Journal, no one's gonna do
anything. And what they're

2633
02:35:44,040 --> 02:35:48,840
saying is it boils down to
exposure of people. We don't

2634
02:35:48,840 --> 02:35:54,240
want to reveal sources and
methods. So somehow, the British

2635
02:35:54,240 --> 02:35:57,330
intelligence appears to have
been, I would use the word

2636
02:35:57,330 --> 02:35:59,910
meddling in our elections.

2637
02:36:00,269 --> 02:36:03,689
I would think so. I get there.
Titon a ringer. Yeah, like to

2638
02:36:03,689 --> 02:36:03,989
say,

2639
02:36:04,019 --> 02:36:07,799
right. But why do we not have a
single

2640
02:36:07,919 --> 02:36:12,119
mean? Okay. Besides asking me
your course, you're just joking

2641
02:36:12,119 --> 02:36:13,049
when you know, no, I

2642
02:36:13,050 --> 02:36:15,240
was gonna say why why doesn't
even papers, The

2643
02:36:15,449 --> 02:36:18,329
Washington Post in New York
Times are pretty much dominated

2644
02:36:18,329 --> 02:36:20,309
by CIA employees. Yes.

2645
02:36:20,640 --> 02:36:23,070
Yes. So this professional
courtesy is what you're saying?

2646
02:36:23,610 --> 02:36:28,200
Yeah. Well, you're no agenda
show was reporting on what we

2647
02:36:28,200 --> 02:36:31,380
can but there's not very much.
In fact, that Guardian article

2648
02:36:31,380 --> 02:36:35,340
that I got it from is behind the
firewall, you are paywall, you

2649
02:36:35,340 --> 02:36:41,100
can only get it if Yahoo
reprinted it. And this is also a

2650
02:36:41,100 --> 02:36:44,790
telegraph article about it. But
it's all it's the Brits are

2651
02:36:44,790 --> 02:36:47,550
talking about it. But we're not
doing our typical typical copy

2652
02:36:47,550 --> 02:36:50,910
and paste it into the US
Publication. But it does seem

2653
02:36:50,910 --> 02:36:52,440
that there's some fishy business
going

2654
02:36:52,440 --> 02:36:57,630
on. Yeah, heads should roll.
final clip for me. You have a

2655
02:36:57,630 --> 02:37:01,920
new mayor in San Francisco.
About three months the mayor's

2656
02:37:01,920 --> 02:37:05,460
been in office. How long has the
new mayor been in? A minute?

2657
02:37:05,460 --> 02:37:05,640
Well,

2658
02:37:06,030 --> 02:37:10,920
yeah, maybe six months. 333 is
done by three right three? Yeah.

2659
02:37:11,250 --> 02:37:14,550
So this what's her name? I
really don't know Bravo,

2660
02:37:14,550 --> 02:37:18,420
Charlie. I think her name what's
her name? I can't remember her

2661
02:37:18,420 --> 02:37:19,860
name is something crazy. Okay.

2662
02:37:20,790 --> 02:37:27,270
She ran on a promise that within
three months, she would clean up

2663
02:37:27,270 --> 02:37:30,990
the poop and clean up the poop
in San Francisco and I

2664
02:37:30,990 --> 02:37:35,160
have a report. Earlier this
year, we surveyed 153 blocks of

2665
02:37:35,160 --> 02:37:38,790
downtown San Francisco and
uncovered a dangerous mix of

2666
02:37:38,790 --> 02:37:43,290
trash needles and feces. The
story gained national attention

2667
02:37:43,320 --> 02:37:46,560
and became a major issue in the
mayor's race. Then candidate

2668
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London breed promised a cleaner
San Francisco within three

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02:37:50,220 --> 02:37:51,270
months if elected,

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I would measure that by you
know, like not having feces, you

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02:37:55,080 --> 02:37:58,620
know, on our sidewalks and also
urine and other things that we

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02:37:58,620 --> 02:38:01,710
see the needles and many of the
other challenges that exist,

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02:38:01,740 --> 02:38:04,260
that would all be eliminated
just at the end. I'm not saying

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that it will all be eliminated.
I am saying that there will be a

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02:38:07,770 --> 02:38:09,900
significant difference where
it's noticeable.

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So we're back on the streets to
find out if she made good on

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02:38:12,810 --> 02:38:16,680
that pledge. My producer and I
reserve a 20 of the dirtiest

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blocks in downtown San Francisco
across all 20 blocks. We found

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35 US Drug needles. That's down
39% compared to our last survey

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02:38:25,590 --> 02:38:30,300
10 months ago. But like before,
we spotted trash on every block.

2681
02:38:30,540 --> 02:38:34,830
We also saw feces on all 20
blocks. In total, we found feces

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02:38:34,860 --> 02:38:41,190
159 times. That's a 67%
increase. And in a bizarre new

2683
02:38:41,190 --> 02:38:45,060
twist, someone appears to be
using feces to graffiti

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02:38:45,060 --> 02:38:49,560
sidewalks in the city.
Seriously. We compared the

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02:38:49,560 --> 02:38:52,590
mayor's first three months in
office to the three months prior

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02:38:52,680 --> 02:38:56,730
and found complaints to the city
about needles, feces and trash

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02:38:56,880 --> 02:39:00,690
have all increased. Is San
Francisco cleaner today than

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before

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02:39:00,990 --> 02:39:04,050
you took office? I think it is
because I'm out there on a

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02:39:04,050 --> 02:39:07,800
regular basis. We've invested
more resources, we're spending

2691
02:39:07,800 --> 02:39:10,920
more time trying to get people
house and we're focusing on

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02:39:10,920 --> 02:39:15,000
those areas we know are the most
problematic. I am doing

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02:39:15,030 --> 02:39:18,900
everything I can to invest the
right resources into making San

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02:39:18,900 --> 02:39:21,870
Francisco a lot cleaner and it
takes time to get to a better

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02:39:21,870 --> 02:39:22,380
place.

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02:39:22,410 --> 02:39:24,750
So even though complaints are up
since you've been elected, you

2697
02:39:24,750 --> 02:39:26,790
don't think it's because the
city is actually dirtier.

2698
02:39:27,270 --> 02:39:29,700
I don't think it's because the
city is actually dirty. I think

2699
02:39:29,700 --> 02:39:32,220
it's because more people are
reporting the challenges that

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02:39:32,220 --> 02:39:32,850
exist

2701
02:39:33,510 --> 02:39:36,810
to people who simply think you
didn't accomplish what you said

2702
02:39:36,810 --> 02:39:39,450
you will I just started as mayor
a couple months ago. Give me

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02:39:39,450 --> 02:39:42,690
about three months promise and
you see a difference in certain

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02:39:42,690 --> 02:39:45,900
areas. It is noticeable. There
is a huge difference in certain

2705
02:39:45,900 --> 02:39:46,770
parts of the city.

2706
02:39:46,800 --> 02:39:49,200
But you would acknowledge the
city doesn't actually have data

2707
02:39:49,230 --> 02:39:52,050
or any kind of metrics to show
that definitively.

2708
02:39:52,230 --> 02:39:54,630
Well, we have what we see
visually but at

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02:39:54,630 --> 02:39:58,200
what point will walking over
feces not be part of the norm in

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02:39:58,200 --> 02:39:58,710
this city.

2711
02:39:58,830 --> 02:40:02,130
I hope sooner rather than and
later any idea when I hope

2712
02:40:02,130 --> 02:40:03,270
sooner rather than later?

2713
02:40:03,390 --> 02:40:06,270
We're talking months weeks I
mean timeline

2714
02:40:06,600 --> 02:40:08,520
I hope sooner rather than later

2715
02:40:12,990 --> 02:40:15,810
Hey, what are you working for
the Austin chamber of commerce

2716
02:40:15,810 --> 02:40:20,430
with his clip Oh yeah.

2717
02:40:21,660 --> 02:40:24,240
I'm just letting them know I'm
watching them here in Austin

2718
02:40:24,300 --> 02:40:34,680
because you know, we're next
poop will be on the streets and

2719
02:40:34,680 --> 02:40:39,390
that does help with real estate
prices. Oh, let's be honest. All

2720
02:40:39,390 --> 02:40:45,150
right, everybody. We are
shutting it down for today on

2721
02:40:45,150 --> 02:40:47,820
your Thanksgiving Day edition of
the Best podcast in the

2722
02:40:47,820 --> 02:40:52,170
universe, and I will go
supervise some food which is

2723
02:40:52,170 --> 02:40:56,640
already well underway. And we'll
be back Sunday with another

2724
02:40:56,640 --> 02:41:00,030
edition of the no agenda show
please remember us at divorce

2725
02:41:00,030 --> 02:41:05,610
act.org/na Until then, coming to
you from downtown Austin Texas.

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02:41:06,450 --> 02:41:09,540
In the capital of the drone Star
State FEMA Region number six on

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02:41:09,540 --> 02:41:12,360
the governmental maps and the
five by nine include do in the

2728
02:41:12,360 --> 02:41:14,880
common law condo in the morning
everybody. I'm Adam curry,

2729
02:41:14,970 --> 02:41:17,790
and I'm from Northern Silicon
Valley where I want to remind

2730
02:41:17,790 --> 02:41:22,140
people on this Thanksgiving Day
that electronic thermometer is

2731
02:41:22,140 --> 02:41:26,100
your best friend in the kitchen.
I'm John C. Dvorak

2732
02:41:26,250 --> 02:41:28,800
we return on Sunday right here
on no agenda

2733
02:41:29,430 --> 02:41:31,770
until then ah adios.

2734
02:41:42,270 --> 02:41:47,970
Donate to and no agenda. They
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2735
02:41:48,030 --> 02:41:53,760
donate to the no agenda is the
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2736
02:41:53,910 --> 02:42:00,960
Donate to no agenda. Listen to
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2737
02:42:00,960 --> 02:42:10,920
no agenda. Science is turning
into Klieg to talk talk come on

2738
02:42:16,350 --> 02:42:16,860
come on.

2739
02:42:17,160 --> 02:42:20,880
When I first started college,
when I went running, after five

2740
02:42:20,880 --> 02:42:23,610
minutes, I started feeling a
burning in my chest. And it was

2741
02:42:23,610 --> 02:42:31,950
just me sucking in and small.
The smog was so bad. It was like

2742
02:42:32,070 --> 02:42:32,670
to my

2743
02:42:35,010 --> 02:42:38,640
left is an emissary of the devil
but you know that he's black.

2744
02:42:38,790 --> 02:42:44,190
And that's all you sadness is
blatant racism. It is destroying

2745
02:42:44,190 --> 02:42:53,040
the dream. It is Jesse Jackson,
you process him out shopping you

2746
02:43:07,020 --> 02:43:14,970
don't worry don't worry

2747
02:43:20,610 --> 02:43:29,610
getting lunch at Chipotle the
tortoise in the race. Kim

2748
02:43:29,610 --> 02:43:38,940
Kardashian Weaver wash our ESP
IICT they are all Jide ESP ICT

2749
02:43:39,000 --> 02:43:47,820
there's no real conference
resist. We must resist. We must.

2750
02:43:49,440 --> 02:44:06,510
We must and we will much about
that. MoPhO

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02:44:06,540 --> 02:44:11,670
boruch.org/in A very go