Nah. Adam curry
Jhansi divorce Thursday April 26 2018. This is your award
winning get my nation media assassination episode 1020.
This is no agenda
celebrating good times and broadcast with the drone Star
state here in Austin Jay Haas in the Columbia in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry,
and from Northern Silicon Valley words looming. And by the way,
the garbage trucks have already gotten by so as to train I'm
John C. Dvorak. Buzzkill.
Whoa. Did you just did you speed up? Or was that Skype speeding?
Yep. That was me.
All right, good. All right.
So your little, little Are you under the weather or just
congested?
Fine, but it's just like I'm congested. Yeah, you got your
knees like the traffic by
the way? Yeah. nasally.
The only difference is I don't have potholes.
Yet, yeah, you do.
Ah, as if that scourge wasn't enough. Have you run into any of
these scooters, these electric scooters in San Francisco?
No, most of them actually go ahead. And a lot of them they
don't report on this but they go driving down the road and and
they hit debris or the garbage in the streets, or whatever. And
a lot of them hit human feces and they go flip and
they go flip it over heels. No, that's not true.
I have a I have a report from San Francisco on the latest on
the garbage situation
on the garbage. You're on that because these scooters is what I
was. They've now infiltrated Austin, these, these electric
scooters, they're everywhere.
They're what they're doing in San Francisco is they're
confiscating them because what people do they leave them all
over the place
the whole point you're allowed to the company allowed welding
and
dropping them off in the bottom of stairs steps in the dumpster.
So the city's grabbing them and keeping them
I know a guy who goes out in the middle of the night to collect
them and then to go charge them. Yeah. Which is what a great job.
No, it's not a great job. But more importantly, it really
should I mean, I don't know it's this whole thing is a so on
Austin. If I can say anything like that, to have the scooters
it just everyone's on the sidewalks within its downtown is
become annoying. Get off my sidewalk with your damn scooter.
Get those scooters off the sidewalks. Exactly.
Turning into you
know, I'm not that way. I think it's fantastic that there's all
these scooters everywhere running into human poop. And in
the garbage they can't clean up. And when I was coming back from
that last trip, there was somebody that actually was there
discussing this in the first class line. I was next to that
line because I was not in first class thing. I don't see San
Francisco is the filthiest third world first world city there is
it's like Calcutta. And so they had a they had a discussion of
this on the news because they're trying everyone knows this. And
the guy who's responsible for bringing conventions and he says
they're losing business, rightfully so. Yes. And I have a
clip filled with debris,
litter, human waste, and drug paraphernalia.
Mark Farrell wants to spend nearly $13 million the next two
years to clean up the filter. The mayor wants five new
pitstops like this one sort of one stop shopping where these
dog waste bags and needle disposals. $3.5 million will be
earmarked for new steam street cleaning equipment. GP W's
Mohammed Nuru says they're getting hundreds of calls for
service every day.
And we're double and triple shifting our steam cleaners and
a lot of our equipment. With this funding will be able to buy
some more equipment.
The plan will include hiring 44 new cleaning workers will target
districts which need help the most. Loretta Lauren says her
Excelsior neighborhood is one of them. I have to walk through
human feces all over the sidewalk. Some residents are
skeptical. They've heard the promises before
and I think they're putting a lot of money into programs that
aren't working
but it is a crisis and
we need to act. Jo de Alessandro heads SF travel that the city's
Convention and Visitor's agency. We took a short walk down Market
Street near the financial district. We didn't have to look
far before we found trash blocking part of a roadway. The
dirty unsafe streets, he says are taking a toll. We are losing
business.
We have definitely groups that have said that they can't come
to San Francisco as long as the streets are like this.
The message from Mayor Farrell time just stop talking trash.
Time to do something about
interesting crossover with this.
Before you go on though, I want to mention at the beginning of
that report, they talked about this one stop thing where they
have a bathroom and then they Place your putting use needles.
Yeah, and and a doggie bag thing the doggy bag thing is not for
dog poop.
It's for human poop. Yeah.
I'm reading come to San Francisco to filthiest town.
It's been run by Democrats forever. This just
shows I'm reading the What is this? The Insider? People are
vandalizing the scooters taking over San Francisco with
everything from stickers which they put on the QR code, which
is very funny. Oh, boy, they blood. You know, they
just a great idea for us take well,
this is what Thank you. Well, let me finish the story. Let's
get back to that because it is a good idea. The other thing
they're doing is they're pooping on the scooters on the step
part, which makes a lot of sense. Yeah. But yes, what an
opportunity. So the way these things work is there's a QR code
on the top, you scan that with the app, and then it gets an
activate so you can drive it. But do we just need to know
agenda QR sticker to be on there just pops up the no agenda
website? Yeah. It's just another fabulous idea.
She's just covered no agenda stickers anyway. Yeah, this
idea is some VC funded
thing. And it just popped out of nowhere. Yes, everywhere.
We started a couple of months ago, maybe a little longer. But
if it first started showing up as a nuisance a couple of months
ago, and you see these little racks of there's also bikes
there's a bunch of bike operations there.
We've got that too. I don't mind the bike operation because
actually the same thing No, no, no. No, you have to put them
back you have to enlist is a different operation. Okay, here
you have to put it back into the rack.
Well, that's yeah.
Anyway, this is all part of just get out of the car and let's
walk more so you can step in dog poop human to
human to a premium better now. Huh?
I think it's just more signs of the pending making me sick. The
pending apocalypse is not going to end well. Any of this hay at
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better than madam to so I saw a report last
year and put a picture didn't put you in ma'am to such thing.
No, I was gonna bring something up last night? I don't know it
was um, it was Trump and Melania in mme two, so I didn't know
which one and I just had to stop for six I tell the difference.
Now, Madame Tussaud is horrible. It looks nothing like the people
in question. And notice this but something happened because when
I was a kid, I get to say it. Madame Tussauds I think at that
time was only in London. It was a big deal you went there's like
oh my god, the likeness is uncanny. And many of these
people had stood model they had the you know the plaster put
over their face and everything to really make sure they got the
right contours and somewhere along the line someone hijacked
this brand. They thought they franchised it because now every
country has a McDonald too so somewhere but there's there's no
real likeness it's just bad puppets bad that that mannequins
of famous people
who once in a while there's a good one,
rarely, and the one of Donald and Melania Trump is not at all.
I mean, none of them just just bring up any random Madame
Tussauds website what happened there? And why do people still
go to stand in between likenesses that don't look like
the people? What kind of idiots are you? wetware just a bunch of
wetware people is stupid, where this is your new word? It is and
I think that's really where we're going is we are the wet we
are the wetware
so since you mentioned Donald Milani, I would like to make
some commentary on their dinner ah, with
my calm and his jaunty wife.
Yes, and I want to do that because I saw the check for the
dinner out that McCrone held with the dog The Donna Donna
Melania and Donald yes at the Jules Verne
oh the the cheque as in the the bill what they what they had and
what they paid presumably as
early as about a party of about 24 and they bought a bottle of
here we go and of the of the Midas 30 leader. That Ace of
Spades champagne,
I'm not familiar with it.
Well, this is a champagne Armand de I have to go look it up that
exact name, but it's a very famous champagne. And it's so
good that the brand is actually owned by Jay Z. Ah, so I thought
it was awesome.
So anything owned by Jay Z is now considered good, including
the nets.
No, no, though the wind was good.
Here's what happened the way I did my understanding Jay Z.
Who's a promoter of product and I think he's a musician. Maybe
he's the rapper, a rapper. Well, he's our promoter. Yeah. And he
is married to somebody famous. What's her name? I can't
remember Queen
Bee Bay Bay Bay Chela.
Bo beyond key beyond sci
fi. And he was doing a I guess he was doing a deal with
Roederer. And he had a beef because he was a Cristalle
drinker. Right. Right. Right. And this is a big deal. And, you
know, there's about 10 of these supers super champagnes, and
Cristalle which happens to be my favorite in that league. I
apparently had gotten to a beef because I think what happened I
think because I've noticed that a lot of the champagne vendors
get very irked when you take their $200 bottle of champagne,
shake it up and then spray it on some. Yes.
To the French. This is a great insult. Of course, it's an
insult to me. It is
sold to everybody. Yes, it's stupid. You're gonna spray get
some cooks. By the
way. It's called popping bottles, bottles in the
club. Get some cooks,
shake it out and spray all over the place. But Louis Roederer
Chris doll or DOM Perrin your DOM as they like to call it is
not really the stuff when I see people shaking it up and
spreading on each other. I think it's disgusting. There's other
stuff you can do it with. So apparently, this beef led him to
this other peculiar champagne, which is a little kind of a over
manufactured product. It has a lot of idiosyncrasies to it.
It's very much like a crude. And it was a lot of awards is not a
slouch of a product. I always thought it was just some junk
somebody put together just to fool the blank, man. Okay, yeah,
sure. And no, that's not the case at all. It turns out to be
just a fabulous product. And so that is what for some reason, I
think McCrone bought this and it's a 30 liter bottle, the
biggest bottle of champagne you can buy from any brand. And it's
always the leader the button, the bottle itself weighs 100
pounds. And then I should have mentioned just a little aside
here and I'm going to actually stop pretty quickly because I
know this bores a lot of people, but champagne and anything other
than Magnum, and others but bigger bottles, yes, is all made
in other bottles and then poured into the big bottle. They don't
actually make it in the bottle when it's a big giant.
I hadn't really thought about it, but does that make a
difference? Right, so
Okay, yeah, I think it does because you got your port in the
champagne, it's gone flat. I mean, whether you know you're
gonna lose carbonation is not going to be
so they had they have it in sealed bottles, then they open
those bottles or they put it in the bottle. They open those
bottles and then put them in a new bottle and then cork it.
Yeah. Wow.
I didn't know that.
But because the way Champagne is made, the bottle is like set up
on a rack and you're shaken and you make all the sediment fall
on the bottom. You can only do that with certain sized bottles.
And you can't do with these monster bottles and so you have
to kind of fake it. Okay, so So McCrone paid and so is on the
bill 130,000 euros
did he play with pay with Visa?
I don't know maybe crypto or crypto.
I have no idea but it seemed extravagant. So with that in
mind, I know that was I don't know what the what the dinner
was that they had at the you know, the government dinner was
but that thing was ridiculous. He also had some like a $10,000
bottle of tequila. I had to look this up. I never heard of this
tequila. But it's apparently about 10 grand. Wow.
So How about how about your
How about the wine they served at the
dinner and by the way, and on that same list? Two glasses of
Coca Cola 24 bucks. Do you think that was
for? Yeah, I don't know what restaurant was this again? It
was a Jules Verne so I can avoid it.
Oh no, Jules Verne is a great place. I can't afford that $12
car not going to be buying that kind of thing. They do one
thing. Hi,
I'm here for dinner. I'd like to coax. That's it. Thank you and
some bread.
Yeah, well,
they're assuming you're going to. It's normal. It's a two star
restaurant. So it's not cheap.
So the well, I want to ask you something else. Unless you need
to continue with this. I have another wine question.
Well, I was gonna go on with some more wine tips.
Oh, because I want to ask you about the wine. They served at
the state dinner.
I'm on that page as we speak. Okay. So they had a Chardonnay
and a for one thing. They did have a schramsberg criminal
which is not have favorite of mine as sort of a sweet wine for
dessert, which came from California but everything else.
No, we're doing Oregon. Yeah. And I think that was a direct
insult to cactus. California has better wine than Oregon. No
offense, or I go no, I'm
sure I'm sure it was. It was a direct slam that makes nothing
but since
but at the same time, he wasn't a slouch selection. He had
Domaine serene Chardonnay, Evanston, reserved 2015 Which is
probably needs another year or two of aging. It's a read from
the press release a combination of French plants from Dijon and
thrive in the volcanic Oregon soil and colder temperatures the
wine was aged 40% and French oak barrels for more than 12 months.
This is a good Chardonnay. There are better Chardonnays on the
West Coast than this. Sure, I would say that you could get one
of the Woodward Canyon Chardonnays from Washington
State which tastes a lot like a French burgundy and that's what
I would have gotten but it's another I present for the for
the red yes they serve domain drew hand Pinot Noir lower n
which is a special small planting 2014 which is not old
enough could have gotten Bowser to 2008 or some of the other
better vintages I don't know why they didn't the wine uses the
model French soul Oregon soil drew Han is a French owner
and that makes it okay.
Or isn't it the grapes are the seed is from France and they
planted here
the seed seed don't you plan from cuttings not seeds?
Oh No wonder my champagne is no good. My Andres Andre 17 Is my
brand Andre
is a good one to spray.
It doesn't spray out of the box that's
just swing the box around put a rope well on the box. Yeah,
Central
Pay Now. Yeah. All right. There were other things going on with
the visit McCraw unless you need to speak more about the one
No, I was just gonna say this is to me, this is not as bad as
your Rui. Yes. From the Dutch King from the Dutch King. That
was that was I consider this to be could have done better. Okay,
but that way, I wouldn't pass up the dinner. No, no, i By the
way, I think I can copy most of this meal. Okay.
I'll be right over. Here we go on.
Yes, McCrone did more than just eat and spend money and chat and
drink. He also spoke in front of Congress. And I think that
there's something big afoot coming down. First of all, why
the hell is he even here? What's the deal? Why is he in Murca? I
mean, just to hang out and talk about parades, or is there
something else going on?
Seems to be promoting the climate change thing more than
anything? No,
no, what he is what he is promoting is the next regime
change. It's been on the list. I think we oversaw it. We've been
a little blinded by Syria. Here is a part of his speech. It's an
English just takes a second to get into it.
For Iran. Our objective is clear. Iran shall never possess
any nuclear weapons
Yeah. No notes very good. We're happy. We're happy. It's good.
Not now. Not in five years. Not in 10 years. Net vert net
everybody
Joe MacDrive get me again, bro.
Beds. This policy should never lead us to war in the Middle
East.
Oh, what? No, that We know we want war when there's like, no
one claps, no war around.
The clapping dies way down. It's
exactly why I love Creed's running, left those first two
and I took all the other ones out because they do that a lot.
But it's all this, you know this long clap and wow, we're so
happy and then no more war,
this policy should never lead us to war in the Middle East.
Dammit. Iranian
war mongers, these people good catch, they just want war
and respects sovereignty of the nations, including that one of
Iran, which represents a great civilization. Let us not
replicate past mistakes in the region. Rather, let us not be
naive on one side. Let us not create new walls ourselves. On
the other side, there is an existing framework, okay. Called
the JCPOA known as the Iran deal for the nuclear activity of
Iran. We signed it at the initiative of the United States.
We signed it both the United States and France.
Aha. So both the United States and France signed the nuclear
deal. I don't even know France signed this deal.
Did you? Yeah, I think so. I think it didn't know the UK and
Russia also sign it? I'm not
sure. But they're not they're not in DC with a big fancy
dinner. Oh, this guy is
we cannot say we should get rid of it like that. It is true to
say that this agreement may not address all concerns, and very
important concerns. Okay, what else is true, but we should not
abandon it without having something substantial and more
substantial instead renegotiated have to work on this more
comprehensive deal based, as discussed was President Trump
yesterday on four pillars?
Okay. So as discussed with President Trump yesterday, four
pillars. So this is our policy, and he's
wearing four pillows, and what are they going to do? Here comes
substance of the existing agreement, especially if you
decide to leave it the past 2025 period in order to be sure that
we will never have any nuclear activity for Iran. So
containment of the military influence of the Iranian regime
in the region, and the monitoring of ballistic
activity.
So I think it's point number three, that is the one we need
to look at, containing this military threat, not necessarily
to what's going on around Iran, Iran is pretty big, but what
they're doing internally, and from what I understand, I've
done, I've done quite amount of research on this, it really
caught my eye when the Iranian government banned the use of
cryptocurrency. And quite honestly, they were talking
about doing their own a couple of months ago. So now off your
Iranian you're not allowed to get into Kryptos. But they're
what's their money? What's the what's the current I
don't know what it is dinar or something like that to
Dina or the delicate? The Iranian decay look at out of
fear of this looming may 15 date is that crashing significantly.
And from what I understand, and Mnuchin is doing a lot of
talking, but you know, he's not the one on the front, the front
page with this. It's McCrone and Trump, it looks like more
sanctions. And the big fear is that we're going to go back to
the Swift sanctions, which turns them off from the International
certainly the EU banking community. And this is this is
very damaging, because then they cannot sell all any of their
products. And it is is my belief now rial, all right. That's what
I thought it was. Although, Wait, isn't the reality for
Saudi Arabia?
Iranian rial, okay, Iranian rial.
It's my belief now that we're going to do I mean, in 2009,
Obama and Hillary Clinton tried the Green Revolution in Iran.
And I think we're gonna do a new one. And I think that is
looming.
And they tried it was it wasn't the purple in theirs or
something. No, no, no, no, let's not do anything. No,
it's the green one. It was it was the green one into 2009.
Yeah, as far as I can recall. I think purple. Well, wait a
minute. You may be right about that. They may have been another
one. The purple one. Well, regardless, this this probably
won't be a color revolution. But I think I think that's
to be otherwise you can change your icons.
It'll always be green for Iran. And I'm pretty sure the Iranian
people would be happy with it. So I think the pump is being
primed word. You know, I went back and I listened to all these
reports about Syria and whenever they talk about serious always
Iran is Syria and Iran. And I think that this this time, we're
serious. We know what's on the west Clarke five list. It's one
of the big ones. And clearly we want to renegotiate this is the
stance. Oh, was
it one of the big was it was the last one. It was well, underway
with finally Iran. Yes, it's
the last one the way it's presented. Well, let's listen to
Wes Clark. Let's see. Because I think he he kind of puts it
in a worse in its own categories. The last one. Yeah.
Here we go here to
seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then
Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran.
Yeah,
finishing off. So we're not finishing it off. Now. We're
finishing off Iran. That's what I just heard. It's a new
context. And we're gonna finish off Iran. Iran. Well, it's not
it's not unusual in we're in the, in the broadest sense of
human history that Iran gets wiped out. Yes, having a number
of times, going back to Tamar lane. Yeah. The Iranians were
all always stubborn, the Persians, a Persian nation. And
I remember they got wiped out because this isn't a 10th
century or something. I can't remember the year. But it was
back aways before I was born. And I think it was a couple of
emissaries came in, they wanted to do some deals, and then they
got did just shot them. So they came in and killed everybody.
Yeah. At this point, I'm pretty sure what the Iranian population
is like, get these eight holes out of here. I mean, go back and
look.
Yeah, they that's what they want to do. But they it's religious
problem that they have. Yeah, yeah, not that easy to overcome.
But
just you know, if you go look at if you go bing it, say ping it
pictures of Iran 1970s Even when they were girls, mini skirts or
using makeup, they look pretty
used to be that Farsi was the number one language on the
internet very connected country, while the kids got iPhones or
they had them. I'm not sure what the status is now. So I think
they welcome that. And I think that is what is on deck. Now. I
do have a clip here from the Iranian president, who's not so
ready to jump on this plan.
Iranian President Hassan Rouhani, has dismissed France's
proposal to review an international deal on his
country's nuclear program. French President Emmanuel Macron
crying for fresh negotiations on the back on Tuesday, during his
visit to Washington, PA, I got him in hot water.
If you wants to work with, we're talking to the United States.
That is none of our business
all my day can go ahead, mommy morning, and we will not
remain in the deal.
No matter what your circumstances are. I mean, data
by John that had shadow
johani insisted in a speech on Wednesday that the nuclear deal
will either be maintained or not the apparently rejecting
possible reviews of the agreement signed in 2015. US
President Donald Trump has suggested he may leave the deal.
microns plan calls for reworking the accord to cover Iran's
ballistic missile program and prevent the expansion of the
country's influence in the Middle East.
And notice he misses that third point, which is hey, we got
these. We got the military inside the country. We got to
deal with them. He got no mention of that in the report.
Here's my theory, though. Good
catch.
No, no, I don't think the m&m five M certainly isn't looking
at Iran, other than just this big vapid concept I was looking
into so I thought, wait a minute, if the currency is
dropping significantly, and you know, if you ban the use of
crypto currencies, of course, everyone's gonna go and get them
some crypto. So I'm like, Well, maybe maybe this would be a good
tip for our crypto trading friends to grab some before May
15. Of course, you know, may 15 may come and go without any
change. But then I was just looking at the charts. And I saw
that there was a you know, Bitcoin was up and I guess it
went down a bit today. But when Bitcoin goes up, almost all the
Kryptos go up in value, every button, the exchange value. This
latest run started on April 13.
Okay, what happened April 14, what we bombed Syria
so there's a direct day in advance that we're going to bomb
Syria. I'm pretty
sure that the rhetoric itself was enough. The on the 13th I
think Trump came out and said a couple things on 13th And the
next morning was or the next Yeah, that we woke up the next
morning was happening. So I think may for 13th and 14th
sake, good luck if stuff is running up or not. It could get
it could get very interesting. And I don't think there's any
stopping it. And then I don't know maybe you can eventually
buy and sell oiling in some crypto
fashion. I know, there's a there's a lot going on with
this.
I have to get down to it for the next show. I have a woman who's
a gold bug that was on one of these podcasts. And she was
going on and on about some of the screwball coincidences with
the Kryptos. And I'll put a report together. That's very
interesting. Yeah. And I'm not sure if somebody's opinion that
the whole thing is set up by the banks. Well,
the who was it? I have it here somewhere. Yes. The St. Louis
Fed came out with a whole report. The St. Louis Federal
Reserve Bank has a number of them that make up the Federal
Reserve. And they have a report on the case for sent central
bank electronic money and the non case for central bank
cryptocurrencies, and what they're saying, in fact, the
quote is we welcome anonymous cryptocurrencies, but they say,
you know, a country should never issue that it should never be a
Federal Reserve, what they're looking at now is, they would
love to have, of course, a centrally organized digital
currency.
So,
you know, with the with NASDAQ CEO, saying, Oh, we're open to
becoming a crypto trading platform, when the market
matures, there's a lot this there's some interesting moves
being made and the banks are not stupid, they realize that
they're being cut out of a lot of the a lot of transactions. I
mean, again, I go back to the Netherlands where I walked down
the one street and Rotterdam was phone store, Phone Store, phone
store, where you're not really buying a phone, that's where you
go and you you send cryptos to your to Morocco, or whatever
country you want to
send it to. This is going to be a big problem. It's going to be
it is a big problem.
I'm just not sure how it's going to be solved. But I think it's
going to be love and get solved. It's going to be honey, you
know,
it's gonna get solved the banks win. Sure,
but how how will they solve it? How will they do it all?
That's for us to determine on the no agenda. Yeah, but I
don't know. I mean, if if people even if money is still just a
concept that's just an idea. So if if these cryptocurrencies are
seen as money and people really start using it, yeah, and they
live outside of the exchanging system, which is the problem
with it, then the banks won't be able to do anything Yeah, or the
government they can do it at the exchanges that's what that's
where they have all the power they want to make sure you pay
your taxes over any gains to make sure there's no illegal use
you know, who's changing this I mean, your your, your KYC Reg,
have you ever heard of this KYC registration? God no. This pops
up every which if you read some of these white papers that say
when when someone wants to start a crypt crypto coin, they do an
Ico initial coin offering and they have a white paper which is
in my mind the equivalents of an S one filing for a you know,
like a NASDAQ IPO and in it there's this thing you know,
people want to get in early or you know this white listing all
kinds of concepts I'm not very familiar with what they all say
you need KYC registration and like what is KYC registration I
see it everywhere now. It stands for know your customer
said even mean I don't
know but somehow it's become the standardized thing in the crypto
world that UK a KYC registration is you know your customer and
therefore you have seen some document that confirms their
identity. I just let it sounds like a marketing term you know
Know Your Customer Wow, this
is very suspicious. These things are too fishy for my taste that
very
fishy course they are. But you know of the of the number of
them that have been done, you know, people have used it as an
investment vehicle, you know, to instead of going through the
banking system, just okay, just by by some of our crypto coin
and you know, it was not really shares but it kind of looks like
it
here have that as long as you KYC KYC mas very strange KYC
So, we'll see KYC in our case involves podcasting. And so I
finally watched Alex Inc. Ah, you know,
I I gotta say something right off the bat about that. The guy
is using a mic you're using today. Heil PR. 40. Yeah.
And you know, let's
just forget, that just irritates me to No, and that the guy is
the first one. He's recording everywhere. He's holding this
mic in his hands. And when he's talking, he's talking over the
top of it, which is not how this microphone actually will work,
actually now in fighter microphones that are right, and
they have the capsule the setup down the tube. Yeah. None of
them. You talk over the top of
it. Could you since you're using the exact same microphone used
on Alex, and could you give us a demo of how that would sound?
Okay, well, here I am. In fact, I'll max out this thing because
this thing does have his little proximity effect is Mike, I
don't have the headphones on but I know how to do it. For
example, have you taken off that pop filter? And if you get a
little close like this, it sounds like this right down
right down the tube. That's you'd never sounded better. You
can't sound any better than this. Do you sound so hot? So
normally, you'll do a one fist distance and you get back about
this far and you're talking to this mic. Now if you talk over
the top now you notice that even though I do have a cold, I've
got a lot of mellifluous notes. It's kind of it's kind of bassy
it's got a nice sound. Now I'm gonna flip the mic so I'm
talking over this top Yes. Yeah, yeah, I just talking over the
top thing goes back to some broadcasting school. I don't
even know what mics are talking about where you do this, but
that's what they were doing. I mean, watch a singer. I'm not
doing it yet. Now watch this.
Do the demo. Just just get these
I'm just trying to think.
But we still have the sexy JCB voice in our head. Now we want
to hear the Alex Inc
version. Either I'm talking over the top of the PR 40 Oh, and
it's plopping like nuts and is popping for some unknown reason
I put the pop filter in front so I'm not talking Okay, now I'm
talking through the pop filter over the top of them. You sound
great. It's been on me I should now do you sound like shit? I
should sound like shifty because you're not supposed to talk like
this on this mic. All right.
Do you want to say anything about this show? Because I've
stopped watching it
Well anyway, I was gonna just mention that if you watch those
all those videos of singers with these high end mics there and
they're talking to into the side of it that's because the capsule
sitting there you're talking right at the capsule. That's
what you do you talk at the capsule you don't talk over the
top
either way. I liked you better without the plot the plot
filter.
Okay, take it off. Take it off.
You want me to tell you? Oh, yes. Yeah, all day. The whole
show is gonna be like this all day long. All right. So here is
the I have a clip Oh, which I think was kind of indicative of
the of the show itself. And by the way, the show reminds me
except is not really about podcasting is about this family.
Especially this one little boy who dominates the show. Yeah.
It's a It's me. Do they even have a run bloom? And that guy's
you? The guy talking over the top of the mic?
Yeah. Oh, yeah. There you go. That makes nothing but sense. So
they stole my life is what you're saying
they did because this guy is the actor that tiny an actor that
plays the other co owner. He's like, he's looks like the talks.
Were on blue.
Yes, you're right.
Like, what is this? What?
I don't see any clip for this? What are you talking about here?
I'm looking for it now. I just had it. Finding a good podcast.
Yeah. Now this is the kind of dialogue the kind of thing we
expect. This show sucks, by the way. Yeah, it does.
And he just sent me a list of potential podcasts for our
company to produce there's over 200 submissions every wants to
be our next big thing. Anything good. Some are okay. Some are
horrible. None are right for us. The problem is that everyone the
mother thinks they have a good idea for a podcast. No, I
actually have a great idea for a podcast,
right? That's exactly what they all sound like. No, I'm
serious. Do you remember the Flanary murder? Oh God, this is
happening. I was fresh out of law school clerking for that
judge, the defendant got off, but the real killer was never
found. And it's been haunting me ever since.
I know you're trying to help but it's not that simple. It takes
more than a kernel of an idea to make a great podcast. There's a
certain alchemy Dare I say? Magic? But that's not
pretentious. Dare I say?
Yeah, it totally did. Was it the hand gesture?
That was the whole thing.
Music is killing. Search continued our options were
looking bleak. They range from just okay to well, this is a
show about interspecies
friendship. So if this actually shows me one thing I'm wrong by
have been and this by the way, it's not my life or me. Vo This
is the giblet media and the guy who started you know it's cereal
was their first show. That's that's what this story is about.
Surely you you knew that when you watched it. No If you're
thinking me, you know, it's not.
I wasn't gonna say out.
You said you were wrong about something. Yes. What I
was wrong about is what the what the show proves although won't
last is that you can monetize the network as long as you make
a show about it. The actual network can't be monetized. But
if you make a show Yeah, yeah, it can be. Now it's a
couple of things. Funny. Yeah. It's like they show this guy.
It's like they have a little meeting. And then some people
come in with, with cards and they pitch shows. Yeah. What is
why? What is this ever had? So they come this bullcrap that the
whole thing is nuts. It's not the way it works.
No, we know exactly how it works.
Yeah, and that ain't it.
I'm talking over the mic thing is pretty funny.
Well, this is this is how it really works. During executive
mode, all right. Yeah, she wasn't very hot. So we don't
want her show, do it? No. Actually, I want it to be in
executive mode for a moment. Okay. This is something that
went on on the on the tweeter. You commented on it. And I think
I even said we should go enter executive mode. And it was
something you tweeted and you said, why why do the lip Joes
need to do video? Why don't they just stick to good reporting?
And I
say yes, yeah, there's because there's Washington Post has a
little video show every Thursday. Yep. And it is the
worst.
Well, I got the opening segment of the show. And this is Molly
Roberts, one of their star reporters. Now, since we're an
executive, she's a Trump, Hitman. Yes. Since we're in an
executive mode, she really has no business being on video. No,
I mean, she's got the perfect face for print. And I'm saying
this as an executive not not being mean or misogynistic.
No, she's she's, she's actually slightly. The problem with video
just to be honest about if and people kind of know this, but
they don't want to talk about it, is that you have to be
pleasant looking at because you're going to be watching
somebody talk. And if they got idiosyncrasies, and they scrunch
up their face, they wear no makeup, and they spit. I mean,
you just you can't put up with you won't watch the show. So you
have to avoid people like that. And you have to put pleasant
looking people that know how to read. And they can read it from
a prompter. So it sounds natural. That's what you want,
because you're looking at him.
Now we're going to listen and this will help us evaluate the
technical quality. And I don't understand why a publication
such as the Washington Post lowers their standards to such a
degree. Or maybe they just don't see it or maybe they don't care.
It's a throw away. I
have I have thoughts on this. I want to hear him later. Yeah, I
do. Here's a here's the opening and let's just listen to the
handoffs to hurry to the other people. It's a complete shit
show. President Trump threatens to boxes how it opens. By the
way, there's no there's no opening title. No bombastic
music just start President
Trump threatens to bomb Syria, downgrades relations with Russia
and lashes out after an FBI raid on his personal lawyer's office.
Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg tap dances through congressional
hearings. House Speaker Paul Ryan calls it quits. And it's
only Thursday now.
So this is the tease. And I'm not to use it all. And then she
says it's only Thursday. What does that even mean? If she said
it's only Monday? Maybe Tuesday?
No, that's the name of the show. You're kidding me? No. Oh, Jase.
It's called it's only Thursday.
Yes. This whole concept is wrong.
I'm Molly Roberts, with Fred Hiatt editor of the Washington
Post editorial page and opinion columnist Christine Anba. And
Dana Milbank, folks watching on Facebook and YouTube. Folks, if
your comments and questions make us think we'll try to get them
on the show. Dana, you were on Capitol Hill for the Facebook
hearings and you tweeted out this photo of Zuckerberg sitting
on what appears to be a booster seat. i Well, yeah. Can you
stand that?
It shows that we're here because you know, when I was his age, we
were nice mic sound perfect. So phonebooks so this was a wee bit
different.
I want more details on that and everything else later. But
first, let's focus on what distracted President later.
Because it's another tease. It's a tease after the tease. The
whole thing is
just by the way, nothing galls me more than that. We will talk
about that later, because they never get around to it rarely in
the midst
of major national security issues. The FBI raid of the
Office of Trump's so called Fix it man, Michael Cohen. He's the
lawyer who paid hush money to stormy Daniels. So,
is that okay to editorialize like that and say it's hush
money?
Oh, he said she said hush money. She also said so called Fix it
more you can say so which by the way would be the right term
would be fixer. Yes. Is the fix it man which you get to come and
do the plumbing? Yeah, toilet handle?
Yeah, that's the idea. That is definitely the idea.
And on Monday, the FBI made the unusual move of seizing
documents from his New York City office. Trump says as he said
before, that it's all a witch hunt.
Anyway, so it's just it's horrible. I just don't
understand why they do it. I really don't. I
mean, I have my thoughts on this. Okay. I'd love to hear it.
Well, for one thing, the New York Times has done this. And so
other newspapers feel that they need to do it. Everybody feels
because somebody else has done it. They feel that they need to
do it. Yeah. And so and so it becomes like, oh, we have to
have we have to do this because everyone else is doing and
it's an incredible waste of money.
It's a big waste of money and time. And it's an embarrassment.
Yes. Even the ones who start I mean, New York Times has that
little podcast which at least is audio so that but it's not very
good. And then it's just the day all do it because they all feel
that they all feel obliged to do because the other guys are doing
it. That's the only real reason. Yeah. So then they asked for
volunteers who wants to do who wants to do a pie? No one's
getting
pie one's getting paid extra and this is where it will eventually
break down.
Nobody's getting paid extra. That's true. And everybody wants
to do Oh, I'll do it. I want to do it. Oh, I can do it. Oh, I've
done I used to do commas radio college radio nice. No, they
don't even do that. I used to do in high school I used to be in
the drama club.
I think I can do it It's pathetic. But okay.
They want to do it let him do it. I mean it's I would be
happier if they had information that we could use on the show
but no, yeah.
Let me just exit this for secretive mode
has expired. Please make your way to the exit.
Get out of executive Mar here. I did have a fun little am boys
total bullcrap clip. Tell me if you can catch it.
Juarez allegedly whipped out a handgun shooting two police
officers and an employee before taking off in that truck. This
incident almost two years to the day to the July 7 Ambush which
killed five Dallas police officers.
Now mind you this. This was April 25.
Okay, okay, not two years to the day
was allegedly whipped out a handgun, shoot legit police
officers and an employee before taking off in that truck. This
incident almost two years to the day to the July 7 Ambush which
killed five Dallas police officers
April to July almost two July was two years to the day. What
is that?
Wow,
who wrote that? Talking about shoring your story? Yeah.
Oh, I did since you did a TV review. I'll give you one I'm
surprised I'm saying this because I'm not a Star Wars Star
Trek sci fi kind of guy at all. But I You aren't I binge watch
the reboot of Lost in Space and I loved it. Oh, God, it was
fantastic. I grew up with loss and space. So that helps. But
you know the robot how that came to be and what the robot is. Dr.
Smith is a woman Posie Parker
Posey Parker plays the evil doctor. Yes, yes. And Malia she
plays a good evil character. Very
good. And Molly Parker is the the mom of the family. She's the
she was the chief of staff on West Wing, great actress. And
it's not it's not too hokey. If they put a lot of money into
this.
I saw the trailer and I said, wow, there's a lot of effort.
Effort. A lot of money. Yes. In this in the CGI is just really
out of control.
It's well done. It's very well done. Yeah, I'm surprised
another
thing I don't want to watch.
All right, um, let's see. Maybe we should
begin. Well, first
of all, let's do a couple of things. Since you're talking
about bogus stories, yeah, let's play that. Let's play the bogus
chocolate study, which is all over the news. Every mainstream
media guy outlet had this chocolate story. Thank you,
Michael. For
Two new studies, two are touting the benefits of dark chocolate
as if we needed more evidence. The findings show that eating
dark chocolate with a high concentration of cacao has
positive effects on stress, mood, memory, and warding off
diseases. Research funded by Loma Linda University in San
Bernardino County found that five people who weighed 48 grams
of 70% cacao all had increases in brainwave activity. Chocolate
is also rich in antioxidants. It has anti inflammatory benefits.
A reminder though Penny's high in sugar and calories. Wow
is the chocolate Association of America out with a new native ad
campaign.
I don't know. But everyone's carrying this thing but the
thing about it makes us so stupid. Was it's the study is on
five people right into this slipped it in somehow. I didn't
notice it right away
this they say this in the piece. Yeah, I'm here again.
Thank you, Michael. Sure. All right. Two new studies two are
touting the benefits of dark chocolate as if we needed more
evidence. The findings show that eating dark chocolate with a
high concentration of cacao has positive effects on stress, mood
memory, and warding off diseases. Research funded by
Loma Linda University in San Bernardino County found that
five people weighed 48 grams.
Wow, good catch, you know, it's crazy how I didn't even hear it.
Because that's something I should have said hold on a
second N equals five that's not that's not a great knee
here the I didn't hear it until I taped in and listen to a duck
just audio and I heard the five I said what? What this isn't
even this is ridiculous.
And you say that this same story is everywhere about the same
five people.
That was a local story. I think most local news outlets had it
and then they added on ABC I know for a fact ABC national
news and I'm guessing it was everywhere. Hmm.
Well then it must be a native ad. Well, he's
that or it must be they dropped off a bookcase a chocolate.
Yeah, I don't know if that's enough
for these guys. Yeah, it could be it could be I do it. I got a
lot of stuff on the face bag Analytica, I think the Toronto
thing is interesting. But you know, maybe just before we get
to our first break, we pick up on the story that we talked
about on the no agenda show, I'm gonna say more than a year ago.
By 2020. China plans to give all of its 1.4 billion citizens a
personal score based on how they behave. So some people with low
scores are already being pushed if they want already being
punished, rather, if they want to travel, nearly 11 million
Chinese people can no longer fly, and 4 million are barred
from trains. Next week, the program will start expanding
nationwide. Ben Tracy is in China with what's behind the
government scoring system. Ben this sounds like scary stuff.
Good morning. Scary the government
here says it is trying to purify society by those who are
trustworthy and punishing those who are not. So like the credit
score that most Americans get for how they handle their
finances. Chinese are now getting social credit scores
based on everything from whether they pay their taxes on time to
how they cross the street.
I love the purify society. Yeah, translation. That's great,
purify society. And we're not far from that
same thing. Well, we're just doing
it for your financial the financial part of your life now
but
yeah, but that's falling over into all kinds of other things.
Well, let's just check your FICO score if you get out try to be a
student debt, some college? Yep, Fico. My Fico. Fico. Yeah, I
always say FICO is wrong. I don't know why I like to know
why he's a five
because FICA is that tax that you pay forever. Until you reach
a certain level. It's a part of your wage tax. Yeah, it's like
federal insurance. gonna rip you off thing. Oh, so that's why
that probably your
ad is what it is. Right.
But I always say, sorry, that's okay. So it's the FICO thing
which we bitched about this before it's just ridiculous,
right?
But when you combine it with other things, and I think I'll
have some examples of that later on. It becomes you know, we've
all seen the Black Mirror Episode How come that hasn't
just happened already? Why hasn't face bag just hit him?
Right, your friends? I mean, what would it what would it take
for them to do that? But yeah, but will it be them?
Don't you think people want to do that? I totally think
they want to do it. And wait until you hear this. This VP of
global policy management at face bag. Monica bickered, you get a
whole idea of how they think over there and mainly of course
is that we can't you know we can't do without them our life
can't it here. Here's an example. This is CNBC not
talking about face bag, but that other giant who is next. We know
that Google is going to be next for their products. If not, then
we have a different issue. Listen to how this report starts
off. There
wasn't a lot of surprises Melissa,
this is about a guest it was earnings yesterday and and a
face bag gave their earnings which are spectacular. Google
gave their earnings also spectacular. It
wasn't a lot of surprises, Melissa, but I just want to put
something in perspective of the world cannot live without
Google. We can't live without Facebook. But Google is part of
that. fabric, your oxygen to the internet. And as evidence of
that top line growth 23% The same I mean,
if that's really the thinking, and I'm sure it is, this is I'm
sure this is completely disturbing. We can't believe we
can't live without can easily
live without Google. Bing, by the way does work. You don't
need Google, necessarily the one you can't live without and I've
written about this too,
is Amazon. Yeah, they're problematic because of AWS. Yep.
Yep.
That Grenache into the fabric of society in a very, very cool way
that just makes them impossible to get rid of. Yeah, well, they
have their lobbying company, which is the Washington Post.
But
hold on a second, John, let's be honest, if Amazon disappeared
tomorrow,
what a joyous day that would be.
I mean, think of all the bullcrap companies that were
just all of a sudden have no website economy
would collapse in a minute.
Again, think of how much fun we'd have. Oh, what a joyous day
that we're on time. And with that, I'd like to thank you for
your courage and say the morning to you John. C stands for
chocolate a booger tivity devil rag
in the morning New York Mr. Adam curry in the morning all ships
to see boots on the ground feet in the air substantive one are
all the dangers out there?
Yes. In the morning to the chat. Read the troll room, I should
say. You can find that all the activity at no agenda stream.com
trolls in there and they're all having a good time. I also want
to say in the morning to Mark G. He brought us the artwork for
episode 1027 title that was folding preschool, which I have
now been alerted. We miss heard the clip. Even though that was
the fault of the presenter. It is a full time preschool. No,
that's
bull crap. I knew you'd say I have listened to it over and
again and I know what it is. Okay, what is it?
Holding? Holding? Holding? Yes, holding.
Go back to the clip. It's you still have it? Let me see. Nine.
What was what was that one that somebody sent that there's no
evidence there's nothing there's none of those sounds in there.
Folding. I can't find it for some reason. Was the title
folding might have been
anyway, besides that, the artwork was very nice. It had a
bunch of bombs dropping. We weren't quite sure what it
meant. But one was glitch wouldn't had marijuana on the
side one had snafu. IRS. It was yeah, it was just kind of funny.
Like okay, we'll take this as good. And we know as well done.
Yeah, we thank you very much Mark G mochi. Good to have you
back. He's done a lot of artwork for us in the past. No agenda
art generator.com is where you can upload your art. That is
what lots of artists do. And we appreciate the work that I do.
Because you know, it's tough when you don't get chosen.
I understand.
But we we that's the one thing we debate about on a show Lea
basis.
We don't debate about much else but that we debate about what
are they the title is also title is arguable. Well, we
never argue about is our executive producers and our
Associate Executive producers who we give a special thank you
at the beginning of the show, just like Hollywood and these
are real credits.
Who do we have John? Starting off with? Sir Woody.
And he's in Great Britain $333.33 the executive producer?
I know it seems like less oops, it only seems like yesterday
that you knighted me on show 772 But I'm ashamed to say I've
hardly listened since
man over Boy Yeah, for real
it's given a pretty crazy few years. A producer I've hit in
the mouth a few years ago does the same to me every time I see
him and on discovering my car now has not discovered my car
has great podcast support UI that helps is the future for the
show. It is in my commute perfectly fits the show
schedule. I'm now back.
I'd like to know what that means. Tell me what you think is
great podcast support in your vehicle. I'd
really like to know.
Yeah, it's got to be more than just a USB plug.
No, no, I'm sure it's Bluetooth. And if see for instance in my
truck. I can connect to Bluetooth but it doesn't pass on
the album art or the title just gives like the file name. It's
really some lame. Yeah, some do. Mine doesn't.
What brand Ford Ford bastards.
I know it's unAmerican Ford.
And now back to last three shows have been outstanding and is
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away keep up the tireless and appreciated worse work no
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And following Woody is Kelly Sandlin $300 from the US
somewhere and all he or she says, says she I'm sure with an
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And then last but not least is Timothy Kato is Associate
Executive Producer at $200. And, again, don't have the location
but he's using cutesy animals to solicit donations is just low,
effective, as evidenced by the donation by this donation but
low. Now this is interesting. He says he's obviously fairly new
to the show. Yeah, I think so. As you recall, I was using
six, seven years ago. Yeah. But
I was using him shut, you know, newsletter after newsletter
after newsletter was terrible. Yeah. And so now I just dropped
one little kitten in I guess bent out of shape.
Well, I think the problem is you brought the puppy back and the
puppy is kind of irresistible. You know, when you
see the puppy dog is symbol that we are not doing
well. And yes, and yeah, that's true. And the puppy was there
for months and months and months.
Yeah, well, he's back. And this is,
you know, John Han, I do the production John handles all the
back office stuff and as his minions. So I never I'd never
really looked at this stuff. And when when I see the dog, I'm
like, oh, things are not going too well.
That one particular dog. Yeah. Yeah. sad puppy. sad puppy.
Divorce. But in all seriousness, keep up the good work. And I
have a raven report to the stage and some goat karma.
Great from receita here she is brave. You've got karma.
I will be done.
Now ravens from receita. That's it. That's all we got for our
social associating executive producers for today's show at
1028. Hopefully we'll pick it up a little bit. Next show it was a
little low. A little light a little light? Well, April's
still tax
plasmonics. Yeah, I think so. But I don't I don't see anyone
who says I got a return. Yet just looking at the just looking
at the spreadsheet. Well, we of course want to thank our
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in the mouth all right, lots of show then today. Yeah, I was
gonna do some face back stuff.
Oh, yeah. Let's do face back.
So there's I've two, two interviews. One is they will
start with this Monika bickert She is the VP of global policy
management at the face bag. What's interesting about her is
that for 10 years, she worked in Malaysia at the State
Department. And, and I think she did things like you know,
looking at smuggling, also human trafficking, but 10 years in
Malaysia at the at the embassy.
You may be a spook. Yeah,
you may be a spook, and by
the way, Malaysia is a party town. Hey, whoa.
So now she's the The Vice President global policy
management, and she sat down for an interview, I think this was,
it was a podcast, actually. But I thought it was just
interesting to listen to a few of the things that she had on
her mind. Because now, you probably noticed, it was
interesting to me to see a lot of no agenda producers who
didn't understand why yesterday and the day before yesterday,
all the wonderful services they use online, such as face bag,
Twitter, you name it had a new disclaimer, or they something
pop up about their terms and services we've changed? Well,
that's because the GD RP, the general data protection
regulations in the EU's came into effect yesterday. So that's
why they were doing that. And now face bag apparently, I
haven't seen it yet. If at least it hasn't surfaced in my version
yet, has posted an explanation of their Terms of Services. So
not just saying, you know, here's the parameters. Now,
here's exactly what we mean.
These are our community standards, which basically tell
people, if you're coming to Facebook, here's what you can
post. And here's what you could not post, here's what we will
remove, if we become aware of it, I want to be clear that the
policies themselves are not changing today, the way we
enforce them is not changing today, what is changing is that
we're finally making public all of the guidance that we give our
content reviewers when they enforce these policies. So just
just to sort of give an example, we have for many years had
public facing policies that say, Don't harass somebody don't post
threats of violence. Now, when you go to our standards online,
you'll be able to see what do we mean when we say harassment? Or
what do we say threats of violence? And how do our
reviewers actually enforce these policies?
So basically, you're defining something that has been on the
back end for Paolo
gear. So I came, I was at the US Justice Department for about a
decade before I came to Facebook.
Oh, yeah, she was in issues from the Justice Department in the
embassy.
When I came to Facebook, that was about six and a half years
ago, we were just starting to put in place more detailed
guidance for our reviewers. And they've used that guidance over
the past five or six years. And we've continued to add to it.
And one of the reasons is because we're always seeing new
trends, new types of abusive behavior, and we want to make
sure that we're providing guidance on it. So every two,
how many types of abusive behavior are there? If there's
new trends, what's the new trend and abusive? John, what's the
latest in abusive behavior?
You got me that's kind of I don't use Facebook
weeks, we have a conversation with people inside the company.
What did she say, Oh, let
me just go back here.
So the abusive behavior, and we want to make sure that we're
providing guidance on it. So every two weeks, we have a
conversation with people inside the company and outside the
company, to talk about ways that we need to refine these
standards.
If you're, if you're bored, just say, Don't be making noise. I'm
not making any noise or making noise. No. I apologize. Where
did that come from? I have no idea. But whoever's making that
noise, stop doing it. It's annoying. Alright, so every two
weeks, they have to sit down and review the latest trends in
abusive behavior. It comes down to a term though part of that
doesn't make sense. What doesn't make sense.
Every two weeks abusive behavior, the style of it
changes.
So I also don't, I think she's full of crap. But that's why
we're going through this
is is very difficult for you because of the degree to which
so many of these things can be ascribed to something that is
referred to in your in your own.
I mean, what we're really hearing here, someone trying to
describe what speech is acceptable and what speech is
not acceptable. That's the bottom line here. And what she
does has no bearing on our First Amendment rights in the Gitmo
nation. But it is interesting just to get into the mind of the
globalist thinking
documents as emotional injury,
there you go. emotional injury. That's what we're talking about
here.
How do you define an emotional injury? What does that look
like? Because there are lots of people who could raise their
hand and basically say, this argument that I disagree with
constitutes an emotional injury.
Absolutely. And we want to make sure that we are not shallowly
taking down speech simply because some people find it
upsetting. In fact, we say in our standards, you may find
speech on Facebook, that makes you feel uncomfortable, or that
makes you upset. From our point of view, that is okay. So long
as we give people the tools they need to not follow that person,
they can book that person or they can unfollow that page. We
want to create a space for speech, even if it's
controversial, where we draw the line very
fast. Well, if you listen to her cadence, she's talking like zaqy
Listen to it. She talks you get into tools and stuff, you'll
hear
it actual safety implications or where there are legal
consequences to leaving the speech. I'd say that I'll tell
you this is something I've wanted to do for years. And the
biggest reason I've wanted to do it is because I do so much
external engagement, like the conversation that we're having
right now.
Like the conversation we're having. This is like she's
talking like the zaqy.
Yeah, I think you might be right. It's just like, so
sometimes it just speeds up to such an extreme. It's like the
little bit idea at the beginning. Yeah, that is
extremely weird. She
may be on Adderall or something that's possible. But she
she's also know that if she's a spook, which is what you know,
she can now that she's not on Adderall.
She might be drunk.
spooks drink drugs.
But yeah, here's and the biggest reason I have wanted to do it is
because I do so much external engagement, like the
conversation that we're having right now
is all Judy about it. Like external engagement, you mean,
PR?
And when I do that, I hear from people. Why don't you make these
standards? People will ask me, you say you don't allow hate
speech. What is that? And they'll say, Well, here's how we
think about that. And then they'll say, Well, why don't you
just say that? So that that I think has been behind us doing
this. And we've been working on this now for the better part of
a year.
better part of a year. Oh, so Gee,
she's been doing it for 10 years,
six years, six years? No, so that's bullcrap. But we also now
know that it's 7500 people has nothing to do with algos, it is
just human beings who are doing this,
is this something where you have an actual employee making a
determination about a piece of content? And whether it's okay
or not? Or is this something that is, you know, essentially
operating on an algorithm or something along those lines? No,
this
is people. This is people. So we have a team called our community
operations team. Community ops comm.
You know, first of all, this is this is the complete opposite of
what you get this from a podcast. This is completely
opposite of what they had on the PBS NewsHour, where they did the
same thing. I don't know why. But this is an all the news
podcast, it's on national news. It's on PBS. So they had they
had visited the Facebook operation. The big the big one
in Menlo Park is like two miles long. It's a big building. And
they said that they couldn't do what she's describing. So they
had to move to algos. Ha, you don't have a Facebook
spokesperson,
do you have a clip by any chance?
No, I it was boring, right? Well, she's telling you,
I take your word for it.
While it's building. I do have a clip that follows it up. Because
it turns out that PBS is going to develop algos too.
Yeah, well, we'll get to that we'll get to that one step at a
time
essentially operating on an algorithm or something along
those lines.
No, this is people. This is people. So we have a team,
operations team. They are at this point you hear
that community operations community
ops cops, get it get as cute as
people. So we have a team called our community operations team.
They are at this point more than 7500 Community operations
team is cots, as in beds
around the world, and they are the people who are enforcing
these standards and content potential content violations
come to them in one of two ways. Either somebody on Facebook has
reported it through the site and you can report any piece of
content through the site of a photo a post a group a page,
it'll come into our our content reviewers, then we also use some
technical tools to try to identify violations even before
anybody in our community has told us about it. So for
instance, terror property, ISIS beheading told, we now
say what you said told told us about it. I'm here,
I violations even before anybody in our community has told us
about it so free.
Yeah, well, so for instance, but if you listen here, for
instance, terror
propaganda, ISIS beheading videos, we now have some
technical tools that are pretty good at finding that content and
getting that to our content reviewers quickly.
That's all they have so far is they're able to find beheading
videos, which aren't even online anymore. No, hey, they
can find a lot more. Let me interject just for a second.
When I was at the meetup in Biloxi, yeah, one of our
producers had reposted a picture I put in the newsletter, which I
forgot even put in the newsletter. But two or three
newsletters ago of Trump having sex with stormy Daniels. Yeah,
of course it was photoshopped. And I didn't you know, it was a
quickie job is to have a limit on my Photoshop. You actually
did that. Yeah. Oh, funny. And most of the time is spent
blending and get making sure that the tones are the same. It
was a horrible photoshop job. Yes, it was fun. But it was fun.
15 minutes
max limit because I don't want to make I couldn't get it look
any better. So yeah, it wasn't horrible for it. It looked like
Photoshop but it was funny. And then I also blacked out. I
didn't blog about it fuzzed out all the parts that would be
obscene. Yes. And so it was legit Photoshop junk Photoshop
picture. And so he posted on his Facebook he got he got kicked
off Facebook for 24 hours.
Well, and that's very interesting, because she is
going to get into exactly who. So what from what I understand
in this next clip, kind of think unpacks it is if you say, Well,
I don't like Republicans, that's okay. If you say, or you say, I
hate Republicans, all Republicans should be dead,
that's okay. That's what she's gonna claim. But if you say, I
want this Republican to be dead, or if you take it to any
personal, one individual, then it's not okay. But there's
always classes that are protected and unprotected in our
world. Wait until you hear we do treat
public officials and public figures different differently
than we treat private individuals. So
I, of course, this during this journey didn't ask what
constitutes a public official or a celebrity? I mean, how many
views do you need to have before you're a public person? Isn't
everybody on face bag? By definition, a public person?
That's what I'd say.
If you know, I'm a public figure, because I do so much
engagement for Facebook
engagement. No, no, I'm sick and tired of this end gate public
engagement. Your shilling is what the
call my role. So if people want to say that these community
standards are terrible, that I'm to blame, they can say that on
Facebook, and they criticize me all they want. Versus if
somebody was saying that about their high school classmates or,
or insulting somebody, you know, a personal friend, then that's
something that we might consider bullying and takedown. And you
can see how we define those things internally, when it comes
to violence, Nightmare threats against anybody, even if it's
public figures. And in fact, as we're trying to assess the
credibility of threats, because people do sometimes use threats
in a joking way, you know, if you come late to my party again,
I'm gonna, I'm gonna kill you. We don't want to remove that if
it's just a joke. We do want to remove speech that we think
might legitimately cause harm to somebody.
This is very interesting, because how do you know it's a
joke? I mean, how do you have the context? To understand what
a joke is, which I'm sure an algo definitely can't figure
out. So you know, it's like, was Kathy Griffin therefore a joke?
Or was it not a joke she intended as a joke? She said it
was a joke. Yet, you said, Well, we treat her differently. I
know, it's impossible to do, or
like threatening notes, and whatever you do, just at the
very end of everything, put I kid I kid, JK, JK. So
for journalists, and you'll see this in our standards, we see so
many safety threats to journalists, that we actually
assume credibility unless it's very clear that something is,
so if you're a journalist, and someone says, like, I'm going to
kill you, and they say, even JK, they're probably going to block
that, that comment. Unless they're somehow really sure it's
a joke
that we actually assume credibility and loss, it's very
clear that something is a joke and not serious, we assume that
any threatening language against a journalist is credible, and we
remove it. I will say that we audit those reviewers for
quality every week, every week, each reviewer. And each area of
policy is subject to a quality audit, where we review a subset
of the content that they referred to make
a stop. I knew you'd ask yourself, how many did they
have? 75,000. It's only 500. Okay, that's 75, which is a big
number. So they have 7500 that they review every week, who
reviews and it takes 7500 people to review the 75?
Well, what she's saying is that we review people in the subset
of the subset of the under re review. So it's it's I'm sure
it's bullshit.
Those reviewers quality every week, every week, each reviewer
and each area of policy is subjected to a quality audit
where we review a subset of the content to make sure they're,
they're getting the decisions, right. But we know that we're
still going to have mistakes, and not every piece of content
was
right about now, it would be ideal. If it was kind of like a
Woody Allen movie in Psalm a two guys in white coats, we come
running in with a big flight chasing her around. She sounds
like she's nuts.
Now she goes into full zaqy mode. And this last 15 seconds
the content that they reviewed to make sure they're there.
They're getting the decisions, right? But we know that we're
still going to have mistakes, and not every piece of content
is going to be in that subset that we review. And that's why
today we're actually announcing that we will allow people to
appeal decisions that we've made about individual pieces of
content. So now there is a post and he said we got it wrong. You
can tell us and we'll have somebody else look at it.
This will be the downfall of this whole idea lady that Google
has that one right you're gone You're gone no discussion.
They're gonna allow people to appeal. Ah, you're inviting
people to ban You You're inviting it now?
Yes, you're inviting trouble. The Google. You're right,
Google's got it right. You don't have time for this crap.
No, because it's not just one appeal. It's gonna go back and
forth, people are gonna get pissed off at your answer to the
appeal. Everyone's going to pile jump. Well, look, he's perfectly
here to appeal as good. As is gonna go on and on and on. It's
not going to be pretty amazing though they had like a was at
45% increase in profit. These guys are fantastic. Just made a
huge bank. I should mention this in the news media.
They could do worse than going after these guys. They've got
to, they have to because their business is as being
safe stocked up. Well. We'll get to that in a moment with the CBS
60 minutes. But one last important question that the
journal was so the lib Joe was so embarrassed to ask he even
had to say, well, if I don't ask my friends, while kale, may I
have to
ask you this just because it's something that my friends will
get mad at me if I don't, which is there was a whole episode of
reply all the podcast a couple of months back, trying
desperately to convince people that Facebook does not listen to
you through your microphone on your phone. Can you just
answered that question?
Yeah, we're not we're not listening to you and your
microphone.
It's just that you're it's just that your algorithm is that good
to know that you needed that Velveeta shells and cheese? It's
not it's not that we were listening
to you talk about
there are ways anytime that you see an ad on Facebook, you can
click on, you can click on it, and you'll see something that
says Why am I seeing this ad? Yes. And that will that will
give you some more information. But no, we're not listening to
you. To all of Ben's friends. Yes.
Monica Vickers is the head of policy.
And my next bid here if she's for what she said, Yeah, I'm
sure that's truthful. But I I've been looking into this for a
while I've been trying to figure out how this hysterical Miss
mystical connection keeps getting made between something
people are saying and or what has been discussed, and then all
of a sudden ads
show up. Yeah, I want to stop you for a second.
For listeners out there didn't hear the last show. And I
cognizant of this. And Adam is semi cognizant of what he said.
But it's affecting him. What did I switch is that his experience
with the little box where he says called Tina, and you may
want to explain this, again, somehow managed to call Tina,
even though there's no no real information for this box. You're
talking about the the talking tube, the echo. And I saw this
come in as a new feature. And I just asked her to call Tina. And
immediately she said calling Tina and the phone was ringing.
And so now the talking to was functioning as a speakerphone.
And it knew which t now to call. And with that with no no, no.
Change it No, no. Didn't ask me. Which Tina. Of course, I've
shipped to her to a new job to her at a different address. In
the past. It was presumptuous. Remember what I shipped you,
baby. Yeah, it was very presumptuous, but it worked.
Yes. And that that has that has. I don't know that you're
cognizant of this and very know for a fact that this has
affected your mentality?
Negatively? Yes, yes. Well, no, my look. I mean, listen, hear me
now believe me later. I I'm OTG. We're going to talk about my
latest experiences. But first, let's get back to this because
there is something called ultrasonic cross device
tracking, which is very interesting. It comes from a
technology that I've I was actually looking into years ago,
when I first got into ham radio in November, if we talked about
on the show, I said, Wouldn't it be cool if you could take Morse
code. And you could make that ultrasonic like, you know, 1819
kilohertz range. And kids could have little networks inside the
classroom without actually being connected to a network because
the microphone would just pick up this Sonic sound and I
experimented with it and some, some ham guy I knew, you know,
put some stuff together. But fast forward a few years the
company is called listener. Of course you spell it lisn R, and
here's their promo video
listener is a communication protocol, not unlike Bluetooth.
It's essentially an entirely new way to connect devices. By
simply using sound, something we've been loosely referring to
as a speaker net for the Internet of sound. So our
technology that we build as they're called Smart tones to
Sonic sound that is inaudible to the human ear and to dogs
however, it can be picked up by a mobile phone. The tones can be
embedded in any audio file, a song commercial, played through
a stadium in your car. When those tones are played. It can
connect to a device send you a notification open a second
screen experience or even delivery proximity based
marketing messages. One of the things about listener that makes
us so special, I don't need a battery, I don't need a wireless
connection, I don't need a cell signal. Sound can go around all
of that. So when people are spending millions and millions
of dollars outfitting their stores with hardware that you
have to replace batteries regularly, we do all of that
with no infrastructure, and no wireless, no batteries, no
cellular signal. It's all through the sound. And the good
news about listener is that we're built into other people's
apps. Our goal is to be here, we want to listen to but pretty
soon, we're going to be manufactured into devices as
part of the hardware. So one of the things that's been really
interesting about listenership trajectory is that it's been
fast. And we just closed our series B, that was actually led
by Intel, so Intel Capital, largest, most successful
corporate VC in the world, that's a huge stamp for us.
People click on our stuff, because it's delivering you an
experience that's added, not distracted or not annoying. And
that's a really powerful thing for for brands that are in an
environment like trying to serve up ads on Google or Gmail, or
Facebook or LinkedIn, there's so much noise, that, frankly, it's
easy to stand out when we're doing something that's designed
specifically to make that experience better.
Okay. So I'm gonna tell you about a couple applications of
this technology. The first one I like a lot, which is a lot of
sports teams, or their clients. And the sports teams will let
you download an app. It also gets done at concerts, but I've
seen it done into sporting events, and everything, they'll
say, Okay, everybody open up the app and hold up your phone. And
then they will broadcast through the PA system ultrasonic tones,
which I certainly can't hear but most people can't hear. And then
the phone start flashing in unison or they start coordinated
action because it's receiving these tones. But on their on a
couple of websites have examples of these tones embedded in the
Stephen Colbert show, in an NPR podcast. And what what, what
happens is, you have your and there's I think there were 250,
maybe a little tune in 30 apps that had this technology in the
Play Store, an unknown number of iOS apps had this technology
baked in. And as we heard, Intel just invested in them. So maybe
that's something that goes into the in some subsystem somewhere.
And if you're playing a game, like oh, I don't know, Candy
Crush would be a good one to take a look at. And you're
playing that on the couch, or you have played it recently, or
it's open, or maybe can do it in the background, these tones come
by, then hit your phone, your phone hears it, it sends a
message back to the database. And it says, Ah, this person
just heard this commercial. So the next time you hit a face bag
enabled page, or some other page where the same advertising
network is connected, you're going to get that ad. And I
believe that what we're seeing a lot of now is ads are playing on
the radio, they're playing on television, I mean, these tones
can be embedded in a web page with no video or audio, you can
be a hidden player, you won't know it doesn't go click click
autoplay. And it's done. And you can see it, I got a spectrum
analyzer. And you can see, you see the tones just pop up.
Sometimes you hear a little clicking. And that's audible to
the to the listener.
No wonder we all have 10 tinnitus. Oh, that's that's
another
point. It could definitely who knows if it's harmful or not?
You don't know. But here's the real problem when you're doing
so there was an exam, I looked at a couple white hat sites when
you're let's say you're on tour on your Tor browser, and you're
gonna go to some site and you know, we and you want to be
completely anonymous, but you have your phone nearby, then you
hit a page that may you may think you're anonymous, but the
page admits this tone in the app or wherever this embedded
technology is sitting will send a message back and say, Oh, I
just received a tone. It's this guy. It's his phone number.
Here's IMEI number, here's the IP address, and all the stuff
your phone loves to give, or whatever else that you need, the
phone is laying down the phone is in his pocket, all of this
stuff. And that's called the ultrasonic cross device
tracking. And I think that's what we're seeing are a version
of it. Now, of course, the nasty part of it. Just going back to
the talking tube, there's an app that goes along with it's the
it's the Alexa app. And that's where you can look at your
shopping list, etc. I don't know what this app is doing. I mean,
I have no idea maybe it does turn on the microphone. I didn't
maybe permissions were asked somewhere I didn't care to look,
I just want to install it. This thing can be listening to me.
But it could also just be listening to the TV and then
saying oh, he's watching this show. BB BB BB my phone picks it
up. Amazon now knows what I'm watching. This is completely
technical possible technically possible.
And what also is technically possible, especially with our
group is mechanisms to defeat the whole thing.
Yes, there are many things that can be done. And the number one.
Yes, I should mention that while we have coders out there that
are talented, then it might be interesting to send messages,
these little
with our own with our own coded message, our own tones
yet with our own chosen a indicating that everybody's
listening to no agenda all the time.
Exactly. We there's a lot to be learned and who knows what the
encoding of the blips is. But my solution, I'm just going to talk
about the phone now. And by the way,
everything you said in that last segment, before you go to your
solution, I should say my solution is to keep the phone
often in the closet. But yet, right, which I didn't worry
about at this time. But we've already established that we have
different lifestyles. And I need to be in some kind of contact.
But I have my determination now is Yeah, face back bad Google
bad. But really bad on us. We're carrying around $1,000 pieces of
technology. And I'll just use the word again, we're the
wetware. We basically do what whatever Silicon Valley wants us
to do with it. And the problem is the phone itself, not that
Apple is evil. But they set out to do things like oh, we've got
the accelerometer. Now we can do great games and cool stuff. But
of course, that can also be used to find out where you are what
you're doing riding the bus riding, riding, driving, the
car, walking, running, sleeping, reading in bed, all of this can
be determined by this data, which you know, you have to be
asked for it. And you probably just said yes. So you're giving
it away. Browsers are a whole nother issue. So I, as we
discussed on the previous show, I've ordered five different OTG
devices, these will be phones that I'm using, I'm going to
test every single one of them to replace my smartphone. And I
have the first one in and I've been using it for a couple of
days. And I've learned some interesting things.
And if you're interested
Well, I think everyone's interested. It's not just about
me, you should be riveted. I'm only talking to you.
Alright, the first one that came in
Oh, hold on before you continue what happened to the pager? Oh,
no,
that well, the pager is still activated. But as we discussed
the pager, it just doesn't work. Because you can't have an
actual Convos a piece of shit. It's not a
piece of shit. That was the first realization for me, of the
changes in technology that brought us to where we are
today. The first one is the speed of messaging, it's it's no
longer really appropriate to have to wait three to five
minutes in between a message going back and forth. It was
just I love you, I love you, too. You know, that's just no
good. Or any other conversation where you might want to have
like a real chat experience. So that that is just not working.
So I decided I would want a I would get a feature phone, which
would mean no apps, a browser is really the way to go. SMS text
messaging, and of course calling. But the idea is the
phone is so low tech that it has, it has nothing to give this
you know, of course it's going to, although the one I have
doesn't show up as a known browser, which is kind of fun.
So the first phone I got Odin has to have a QWERTY keyboard, a
full keyboard. Because if you're going to use something for you
know, messaging back and forth, you can't be hitting a key three
times just to get to D. Now that's a little too old school.
So the first one is the Nokia X two dash one. And the first
thing I realized is we have come a long way with cell phone
conductivity, because this only uses 2g and the really the old
school GSM networks which are being phased out by everybody to
make room for God knows whatever five G six g all that crap. So
they're being phased out. So you don't have reliable signal. You
go into a building, you lose your signal.
I remember those days.
Yeah, that was like, most of the time.
Yeah. So that problem comes back. But otherwise, the phone
it does exactly what it says on on the packaging. You can call
it all the apps, they like oh V store, none of that works. Yeah,
there's no mail client. But the browser works perfectly well
with webmail and I have a mobile template for squirrel mail. Ah,
yeah. So that we didn't bite, you know, if you do Gmail, not
that you'd want to but most email systems work very well.
You can even get to the tweeters. They have a very old
version which They'll pops up. And interestingly enough, I
logged into Google with it. And Google could not because I
looked, I wanted to know what they had seen. They could not
identify the browser type, which means they really don't know
much about me other than my IP address. So that's an OTG
device, which of course, there's tracking going on. But can they
really do much with my behavior? Can they really tell what I'm
doing? No, they can't. But the conductivity issue is too big.
So I have a couple more of these two G phones coming in, I don't
think they're going to be good enough. It has to be a minimum
of three G, because you gotta get on different frequencies.
Otherwise, there's just not enough signals, and we're going
to lose out. Again, there's no apps, it's all just if it's an
app, that's something that might talk directly to to an API. But
if you just use a browser, the text messaging and the Nokia
actually has a nice, just kind of like a conversation threaded
version of it. You can go to separate things called
conversations, which are just text messages, put into a chat
style interface. It's pretty enjoyable. And I had a great
time again, yesterday, it was the things around town. And just
watching the zombies, zombies on the street, heads bent over
shoulders hunched, looking at their phones. And did I miss out
on getting into holes? Did I miss anything now, I really
didn't miss anything. Now a lot of people are sending me ideas
like well, you can do it, you can do a complete clean load of
pure Linux, GNU Linux approved Android phone, you rip it off,
do your own custom build, of course. But the whole idea is
digital detox, you're off the grid, not just because the face
bags and the Googles are building up a profile of you and
all this listener stuff that can be hidden in apps. It's not just
because of that, if you need your life back, you really do
and you will enjoy it. And when I come home, I get on my brave
browser, I fire up the VPN. There's minimal tracking, and I
still go to the social nets and I get my news. No my
information. I do it. And I have so much time now that that I
don't have this app phone. I binge watched Lost in Space.
That's, that's the proof. Right? There's
something very ironic about what you just said. But it's true. I
have so much time now I can wait.
But if you now because we're talking about the tube, if you
now know that the Amazon Echo kids edition is coming out,
which has a special version of its voice assistant, which is
also going to reward kids for being friendly towards the
device. Yeah, yes. Saying thank you and the device will say
You're welcome. You know, thank you for being so polite. It will
help train your slave. I mean, this has got to stop.
I know what stopping anytime soon. No, but we're not stopping
it.
Well, as soon as we have a voice record. We've determined we're
getting rid of the talking tube and I'm actually gonna throw it
down the trash chute. Because that Oh, speaking of which, you
know that big fire on the last show? Yeah, you know what it
was? It was your old apartment. It was my old apartment but
someone had thrown smoldering coal. Apparently from a barbecue
that had on the balcony trash down the trash chute and
this is a kind of this is where we ended up with this with our
population is gonna be like Idiocracy.
That's exactly right. Is that the problem was there was that
burns pretty well down there at the bottom but all the smoke
went to the top floors so it was just billowing black smoke
apparently is very fabulous. Yeah. Let me see. So if you want
to learn more about this ultrasonic information a lot is
in the in the show notes and just to add one final bit
besides them having an investment from Intel they also
have a investment and partnership with Visa. Yeah, and
you know when you get this kind of stuff when you put it all
together they mean we need to have spells trouble starts with
T Yeah, it's big trouble and one other thing on the horizon
trouble trouble Yeah, well, I mean, I'm, I'm it's very hard
trying to go back in time using older tech. I mean, it's the
world has really
challenged people to go use Windows one. Yeah.
Also the speed of these phones is pretty funny.
I want to remind people that the movie Josie and the Pussycats
starring there already mentioned Parker Posey is about this is
exactly about what Adam was talking about with this. The
Internet of sound as the guy put it, internet of sound iOS. It's
that's what the movies about is very funny. Very funny. Kind.
Have insightful futuristic film done years ago. But it's about
this exact same topic, embedding these little tones and sounds
inside of things. Only this was done to brainwash the public.
And I remember you talking about that movie and I have not seen
it and you said it was a good movie just hit me that you
reviewed it on the show. I didn't say that
was very movie. Very hard to come by.
Well produced very funny movie. It's a it's kind of a satire. So
now
what I do is when we're watching TV, I have the spectrum analyzer
on. Oh, god, yeah, see it? See who's embedding ads? Yeah. What
I really want I couldn't find though. I get this beggar. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay. I do this as a public service, man. No, I
think you're doing Yeah, well, I think is a fantastic public
service. But it's a little nerdy. Yeah, but
the shit is going on is not okay. And we and people just
don't realize it. So you know, I may not be able to solve your
dementia or dementia be problems, but this is a problem
for everybody.
And it's,
it's not healthy. We've determined this many times. And
these phones, it's just it's something Troy,
that guy was so proud of this thing that he's taught. Oh, yes.
Oh, yes. Your CEO guy. Yeah. The air air network. Yes. So as air
gapped, it's an easy one to say Internet of sound,
internet. Internet of sound. That's right. And of course,
Google is trying to hijack SMS now they've never had a good
chat client. So now they're come out with a new additional
protocol called, was it they just calling it chat? It's
supposed to integrate with SMS but it'll still maybe go through
Xs, MP or oh, by the way, for those of you who are migrating
going OTG from the iPhone. here's the here's the bad news.
If you have lots of contacts on WhatsApp, just tell everybody
Screw it. You can't get me there. They've your number
anyway. Because that's how you connect on WhatsApp. They're
gonna have to use text messaging, because WhatsApp,
you're not going to get it. I think it'll run on some Nokia
phones, see? Telegraph, man? No, none of that stuff. This No, no,
there's none of that is there, go home, go home and do that.
But if you if you have this is kind of nice about what when
Apple introduced iMessage. You know, once you have established
connection, then you're not going through SMS messaging
systems, you're going through their own proprietary, you know,
IP, I think it's it's probably peer to peer after they connect
you.
But here's the cool thing.
If if your phone is not connected, so you know, I turned
my phone off. Like completely off, I
leave the house, I want to make sure that you said here's the
cool thing. It is cool. It is cool. Okay.
Go on. When you leave the house, if someone tries to send you a
message through iMessage on the IP and it sees you're offline,
it'll automatically send that as a text message. And then when
you reply, it'll show up in the same thread. So the migration
off is a lot easier than I thought it would be because I'm
like, oh my god, everyone, everyone who's got me on the IP
version of iMessage they can't text me anymore, but they can as
long as you turn your phone off so that's good.
Enough phone news. Yes. And today
I received the Z 431 And I believe that has 3g radios I
will have a quick review on Sunday eg with OTG Adams OTG
short news story that came out was kind of it was about a
murder of some we went out a murder but a shooting as some
poor sound guy that was on the cop show mentioning cops earlier
and I think if Tony can kind of catch the the trying to imagine
the overall situation as this report is given they don't
really get into editorialized on it or anything but this guy was
sued this guy's family sued the police department that they were
following around police's cops sound man kill.
They were they run it hates the show that takes viewers to the
front lines as cops hunt for criminals. I got it. I got it.
But on this night, it's the cost camera crew caught in the
crossfire and armed robbery suspect inside an Omaha Wendy's
it erupts into a brutal firefight. The shooting stops
but 38 year old sound man Bryce Dion. His microphone on the
ground is hit. The bullet that killed Dion just missing his
bulletproof vest. The fatal shot was fired by an Omaha police
officer fiance's family now suing the city of Omaha for
negligence and I
think it sheds light on exactly what happened. And the fact that
Mr. Dion was caught in the crossfire through no fault of
his own.
This suspect armed with pellet gun was also killed
through No, wait a minute to a couple of things. Took a couple
of beats cheese. Okay. First of all through no fault of his own,
sorry
the guy was there. Anything can happen on the end when you're
doing that kind of work. So
apparently from the sounds of it the cops are just shooting
randomly all over the place with their eyes closed and I think
that the guy might have been shot in the back of admist his
bulletproof vests and then still killed him. Who knows? And that
but they suspect had a pellet gun. Nice. Yeah,
yeah, that's the kicker.
So these cops got some guy with a pellet gun at ping, ping ping.
He's got a pellet gun selling guns are dangerous.
You can't hold that up. If you hold up anything. You hold up a
cell phone it looks like
the point is a guy with a pellet gun. These guys are going nuts
shooting all over the place. I believe they do shoot with their
eyes closed, squinting and is shooting like crazy and shaking
their hands. And they shot the sound guy somehow. There's a guy
with a pellet gun. He's right there. You shoot at him.
You remember the old FBI show would always be like,
stop FBI. The guy got and the FBI go.
And the guy would be down. Yeah. Those nerves those days, those
days are over.
Oh, those were the days.
I just find that to be the guy at a pellet gun. And they don't
know. It's just beyond me. I got another Oh, John Gray, the
author of a mirror from Venus and women from Mars or Mina from
classic. Yeah, classic. I know where everybody's from, but
they're from some planet.
Danger Will Robinson. He did that
book by 25 years. He's in town. He's going to be speaking at
some, you know the thing in San Mateo. So they interviewed him I
thought these were pretty little old fashioned thing. And I'm
surprised he's is not being picketed by the locals and you
know, the lip Joes that run this area. But I felt that there's
two clips I felt worth listening to in this. Here's the first
one.
But what has changed the most in 25 years because the
more traditional relationships are doing better. But what
happens as women become providers, a new dynamic sets up
and we need to know new communication skills for that
equality in the relationship. It was much simpler. In the old
days, when men made the money and women took care of the home,
they do their roles. Today, women are making the money along
with men. So what are men's roles at home. So often women
would have feminized men and make men into women as opposed
to understanding how a man can actually support a woman and
coming back to a place of happiness. Because when women
are spending all day in the workplace, they're stimulating
testosterone, which is the male hormone that we as men need 30
times more than women. But for women, they're not stimulating
estrogen, and progesterone which women need 10 times more than
men. So there's relationship skills at home, that can help
women open their hearts more and be happier and not be so
overwhelmed, which is very common today.
Oh, yeah, this is gonna be a shit show. I just fold this
folds perfectly into my next clips. What's What's the second
one,
the second one folds perfectly into what you were just going on
and on about how important all this stuff was to you. And we'll
play it.
One of the things that makes life more overwhelming now is
the prevalence of social media and everybody were you in a text
crazy society? How does that impact these
huge impact and I cover that in a new book as well, which is
what happens is when when you've got a computer here, stimulating
your brain, it stimulates more dopamine, the feel good brain
chemical than actually looking in somebody's eyes and talking
to them. So just like if you were to take cocaine, which
stimulates high levels of dopamine, in one use, your brain
rewires itself to prioritize cocaine over spending time in
relationship. Well,
here's the deal. Every if you go OTG every day as a reward you
get to do along. It's healthier, believe it or not looking
to person conversation with a person we become impatient, we
lose attention, we get distracted, we become
particularly for men, women become overwhelmed. Their brain
becomes overstimulated with things they have to do. They
can't find that sort of resting place in their heart and to feel
happy. This is all due to overstimulation from
electronics. So that's high stimulate, the brain rewires
itself, it can correct with new insights of learning to balance
high stimulation with low stimulation, which means taking
time to turn it all off and have a conversation.
Oh, man, let's remember this clip.
We will revisit this. That was
one minute very well explained. It's totally true. And that's
wild. Yeah, totally nailed it. Well, let's just go back to what
we should have played these two in the opposite order. Let's go
back to the male, female, the testosterone, etc. We had this,
this event in Toronto, and the guy who did it is being called
an INCEL. Now we learned about in cells on this show, half the
backup
and unexplained event in Toronto.
Well, I had the clips kind of explain it. So okay, I'll use
the quarter that happened. But we'd but the Insell is the
involuntary celibate, and we talked about this group, I think
it would do what's in relation to the red pill documentary that
girl had made, maybe that's how long maybe,
which everyone should see, by the way.
Yeah, it's a while ago. So this is group of self identifying, as
far as I understand, mainly men, boys, guys, who say who can't
get laid can't get laid, right? And so then, for this reason,
they are and this in the past week, this really started to
shift were this term red pill, which I have always understood
and well, I have a clip that explains that the current
version of it because Kanye was red pilling. Now. Who is who the
hell knows what they mean? I think what it basically means
is, these guys hate women and want to kill them. That is not
the brand. Yes, that is how they're branded. Here we go.
We're gonna start with a disturbing conversation.
medicine's NPR by the way, as you can tell, it's the NPR
sound.
We're going to start with a disturbing conversation may be
not for young years, about the Canadian Vann attacker who
killed 10 Mostly women. He's being praised.
Notice.
What's her name? That's fresh air gal.
Yeah, but notice 10 Mostly women.
She's now saying,
without any evidence, she's already setting it up by saying
he targeted women.
were implying that let's put it that way. Ah, yeah, catch
because he killed a weed. I don't I mean, I've only heard
how many people how many did he wound? Was it more than all
women as well? I think that would matter in your reporting.
Terry
Yvan attacker who kills 10 mostly women, he's being praised
online as a new saint. By the misogynist groups he was
reportedly a member of they're called in sells involuntary
celibate they hate women, because they believe they're
denying them sex. One wrote on a message board after 25 year old
Alec Minassian drove his van into pedestrians. Hopefully now
someone uses a truck to just ram women down. Sam Louis is a
psychotherapist from Seattle who treats sex addictions and many
in sells. Sam, tell us more about this community.
Well, they gather online and I
come mystified. Second time use the word buy this.
Why community?
Why is she calling it a community in
these? This, you're getting Clip of the Day for this already?
I'll wait until remember that when you finish it when I
realized
you find this what? Fascinating. What's more
about this community?
Well, they gather online and it's growing. And part of the
reason is because of the way the culture has shifted, where folks
are teased mercilessly in this culture for I'll just say it
bluntly, being virgins, some of them may be socially awkward all
the way through the autistic spectrum. And then they also
don't fit the hypermasculine description of what they think
would be attractive. All these different facets that just feel
their sense of
shame. Know what just want to make sure I
should have pulled us up to the death I was gonna have a better
punch line up but you can keep it
I'm just I just broke it up for reasons of us talking about it.
We jumped in a little early, but let's continue.
Why has it propelled to this kind of rage that we are seeing
on these forums?
Well, the reason is, I think very multi layered. If we start
with the big multi
layered, what does that shit
multi layered.
He said mold tide I think so.
Very multi layer.
multi layer
if we start with the beginning, this community start again with
the community did in 1993 by coincidentally a woman who was
from Toronto. She wanted to make this very inclusive, all men and
women. It wasn't about violence, but it was more or less helping
people to connect with other men and women who struggled with her
and she said she bandied around in an interview with other names
like late bloomer non blooming ForeverAlone Yeah, forever. F a
is forever alone, perpetually single. And what happened was a
lot of men young men, their angst they had nowhere to feel
their sexual, emotional social. seconds online.
How does this How is this any different than from the 1920s?
The 1860s Whenever the old maid used to be called an old maid
will aside, the men were just called doofuses, but the old
maid
of preachers. No. This is something, something has changed
in society. Where? Sure, I mean, there's plenty of people. I'm
sure there's been communities all the time of people who don't
get laid, but to say that there's no way to vent their
sexual frustration. I don't know, ever hear of porn. I mean,
there's all kinds of all kinds of things about Booker's
workers. Well, maybe that's well, I don't know if the access
to hookers has been cut back, I can't get I can't get on the
back page anymore.
And their angst, they had nowhere to feel their sexual,
emotional, social frustration. So they found these online
communities and forums.
And this is where we start to understand that we've moved from
a red pill to a black pill. I think there's some guy who also
has the handle black pill, because then we move from just
being anti women.
To that was red pill blue pill had to do with the Matrix movie.
Yeah. So
now, red pilling. This is this is how disturbing it is. In the
movie, The Matrix, you Neo gets a choice blue pill or red pill
blue pill, everything's the same. You wake up and your world
is the same. You're living in mania still a Democrat, the red
pill, you take the red pill, you go down the ugly to being you
know, you get all slimed. And you figure out that it's all a
scam. And so now the interpretation on the social
nets is when you're red pilling someone you're telling them the
lie. Oh, this is this this world that you're living in? is not
real. It's completely different. But you what you're
communicating is a lie. Because it's the world The world is the
way it's turning the whole meme erupts is
insanity.
Look, some of the things that misogynist things we're hearing
about on these forums are disgusting, you know, they want
women murdered and killed. But for those who are just this this
loneliness that you're talking about, that it sounds profound.
It is. And I think what you mentioned earlier, just to help
listeners understand this whole black pill, the black pill is
probably a very small percentage. That's the pill that
they metaphorically take, which means I will now espouse
violence, hatred and misogyny, whereas others might go the red
pill, so the red pill does, I'm learning a lot from some of my
clients, the red pill, it's similar to the whole matrix
analogy, where if I take the red pill, this is the reality. And
the reality is I need to learn other skills to quote unquote,
pick up women so they might use manipulation tactics that not
necessarily violence, but they need to come up with other
strategies. Now, here's
an idea. Why don't we stop hating men and masculinity on
mass? That might be an interesting start, you're
confusing people to no end, you're toxic, especially if
you're white, you're toxic and racist. You'd Shut up. You're
too busy. You're acting like a moron. Take your privilege. You
know, there's been a war on men. And then you'd find it strange.
That kids prop and by the way, not a single question anywhere
about this Toronto van driver, if he was on any kind of
psychotropic drugs, he seemed pretty wacky. It's rather a
wacky thing to do. No, nothing. You can go ahead and look, you
can't find any of that. Put these kids on that. Tell them
they're horrible. Women speak incredibly disparaging about men
about masculinity about male behavior. What do you expect?
Getting what they expect, or they should have expected. Now.
Everyone's tone deaf and colorblind to this stuff. They
don't see it, John, they don't see it at all. And dandy you in,
by the way women Women hate Trump. They do. Yeah. Here's
Maxine Waters with proof. Are you are you
the belief that Democrats should make impeachment a centerpiece
of the midterm elections?
Well, they have indicated they do not want to do that. They
think that the Republicans lose it, you know, that whether we're
talking about the DNC or the D, Triple C, they all believe that
the Republicans will just use that and say they're mad because
they lost the election. And they don't particularly think that
that's a good way to go with this. I don't agree with it.
You don't agree. I mean, you don't agree both tactically and
also substantively, I mean, I guess my point is, I know that
you substantively feel he has committed and Pete Egypt
defenses. Do you? Are you not persuaded by the idea that it
would be a tactical mistake politically? No, I'm
not persuaded by that idea. You know why? Because I tell you,
everywhere I go, people are talking about what why can't you
get rid of him? Why don't they impeach him? What's wrong with
the other members of Congress? Why don't they stand up with
you? This man is dishonorable. He lies all the time. He's a con
man. They say all of these things. And I'm not just talking
about my district, whether I'm on the airplane, I'm walking
down the street in New York, wherever I am, I'm hearing it.
And I'm told that 70% of women who have been polled say that
they want him impeached,
Congresswoman Maxine Waters.
And so I was at his lies. Oh, it well. I was at Johanna's.
Yesterday, she cuts my hair. I'm wondering for for male clients.
And I said, So what's everyone talking about? She says, every
single one of my clients who sits in the chair says they
don't understand why Trump hasn't been impeached and thrown
in jail yet. And I said, Wait a minute, when they're connecting
those two says, oh, yeah, they think impeachment means he gets
thrown in jail.
Wow. Yeah. To every single one. Except for me, and then the
former New York banker course.
Yeah. Journalists seem to have a grasp on reality, but that
but that is their reality. Just turn on the on the telescreen
that is the reality of what people are seeing. Maxine, by
the way, is also one of the time 100 I'm not quite sure what the
qualifications are. Maybe it's if you're nearing the age 100
But if you had to give some advice to President Trump, what
advice would you give him?
Please resign so that I won't have to keep up despite of your,
you know, having to be impeached? Because I don't think
you deserve to be there. Just get out.
She's getting weary, I
think so the
they're going after this guy, Jackson, the dog, Trump's
doctor, that White House Doctor Yeah, it was actually Obama's
dog. Yeah. What's the dealio?
What's What's the dealio with this guy? He's he's he's to be
the veterans administration's guy. Is that what the problem
is? Yeah.
Adam Roy, he was being an admiral means you do have to
have some management skills. So it's possible he could do that
job, but for some reason, the Democrats decided they can
disagree with us,
he needs to be confirmed. Is that what's happening? Is that
is that a confirmation
bias? So okay, okay. So whatever the case they they're making a
big fuss about it. I got a bunch of clips. They're all short.
Let's start with the let's see. I got I got a piece on Jackson,
bad Whitehouse bad ABC. This is the way ABC approaches and then
I'm going to take it to PBS and walk it down the roadway. We are
also following breaking developments at this hour
involving President Trump's personal physician. The
President's pick to lead the VA and there are new allegations
uncovered tonight. Admiral Ronny Jackson is now accused of
crashing a government vehicle while drunk and recklessly
prescribing an opioid Percocet. A short time ago Admiral Jackson
was fighting back what he's now saying and ABCs Mary Bruce is on
the hill again tonight force,
toxic, abusive and volatile tonight. That's how some former
and current colleagues are describing the President's pick
to lead the VA accounts for more than 20 people provided ABC News
by the top Democrat on the Veterans Affairs Committee paint
an explosive picture of Dr. Ronnie Jackson one describing
him as quote, the most unethical person I have ever worked with.
Have you seen any concrete evidence?
We've talked to a number of folks that have made these
claims and we need to find out if it's true or not.
Jackson is accused of drinking on duty. On one occasion when
traveling with the president he allegedly could not be reached
when needed because he was passed out drunk in his hotel
room, and at a party he allegedly got drunk and wrecked
a government vehicle. There are also accusations about Jackson's
prescribing practices he wants allegedly gave a large supply of
Percocet a prescription opioid to another staffer without
documenting it throwing his staff into a panic when
traveling on Air Force One physicians and nurses described
him handing out Ambien to help people sleep and Provigil to
help them wake up earning this nicknamed
because he doled out prescription drugs on these
trips where they flew through multiple times.
We've talked to someone say that standard operating procedure to
make sleeping aids for instance available on long trips.
Well, I gotta say that standard operating procedure I have not
witnessed it nor have I participated in it
late today. As these new details emerged. Jackson was spotted at
the White House asked about prescribing that Percocet. He
denied it and wrecking a government car. He denies that
too.
Very easy. heard that
before these new bombshell allegations came out the White
House spent the day defending Jackson
wow this is I had Tina was talking about this this morning
and I had no idea that these were the allegations The Candy
Man he's got a nickname The Candy Man Oh
this you know this rings of bull crap well cars are out the car
out well first of all is a doctor yeah, I've never known a
doctor yet that doesn't hand out stuff like Percocet just that
you know casually.
Every everybody's got everybody's got a doctor friend
and he's got Percocet and Ambien on the Air Force One he gives up
to date. I can't sleep Daria okay here take this tipples out
of his pocket. And then he's also probably got Yeah, he's a
military guy. So he knows about was the other stuff the Provigil
which is a military drug did everybody in the Air Force US
Navy everyone? You know, it's it's it's better than
we're all drugged up. What's the problem? And everyone's drunk?
I'm drunk.
A big fuss. Oh, the Percocet. It's not like he's giving
fentanyl but okay, they making a big fuss. None of the reporters
do any background on net. They don't do any work.
Where did they come from? Where did this was 23.
It all came from Sherrod Brown and 23 people.
Was this Senate testimony the house or where did
it this is a senator in the armed forces. One of the first
is this something on C span where these people are saying
this? Watch this. No, these
are secret. We don't even know what these secret okay? It's
always 23 in the ABCs is over 20 But but they didn't want to use
the word 23 because 23 is code. Sherrod Brown comes on PBS and
I'm gonna start playing those clips and he's talking about a
lot of stuff and he's contradicting himself.
Who the sheriff brown Sherrod Oh, Sherry, who was who was
shared,
he's a piece of one of the you've never heard of him
senators from Ohio, who is all in he's a hill bot. Ah, he is
hates this guy. For some reason. That note, none of these reports
mentioned that he's actually was brought into the White House by
Obama. This don't mention Obama. And it's just the report is so
slanted. And no one has done any research to find this wrecked
car.
Yeah, that seems like something we should be able to find.
So let's start with the first 23 People in the doctor
of the VA coming out of the White House. I think probably
the most troubling single thing about Dr. Jackson. And this is
corroborated by enough people 23 People have come forward
military or former military talking to us that that he was
so inebriated 190 We went out in one day and wrecked a government
car, things like that. The President clearly did not ask
questions about his staff didn't before he was nominated. And
this just creates chaos at at the most important job. Here's
how do you take care of 9 million veterans and they have
injected this chaos into the whole upper management of the
the VA and there is, you know, there is a leaderless
institution now a leaderless agency that takes care of 9
million veterans.
I should point out that Dr. Jackson told reporters at the
White House this afternoon that he denies wrecking a car. And he
also said that that's easy to check. And he's moving forward
with his nomination. He said there was also allegations in
the in the summary that he was prescribing Percocet and opioid
or to people in the White House staff and that they were having
trouble tracking it. In the White House medical office. We
hear
all these things we we see this corroborated by a number of
people again 23 people.
Wow, what's the 23? Bro?
What's the 23 people?
And what's the big deal? I
think this goes back to the talking points theories, where
you list a specific number it makes it sound authoritative.
97% Exactly. 23 people 23 people and then he goes on again about
these 2317
agencies 17 intelligence agencies. Yeah. 97% of
scientists 20 people, okay, and the point so it's a professional
matches. It says chaos over and over again, this part of the
anti Trump Trump rotation, Trump rotation chaos, chaos, chaos,
chaos. And they I don't know why they're gonna have this guy. I
mean, he probably pissed somebody off somewhere along the
lines and that one person is in that top group of 23. If there
even are 23 they never named them. So let's go back to part
two.
We see this corroborated by a number of people again, 23
people, military, active duty or retired military or veterans who
have moved on to other things. If spoken about these issues,
this whole host of issues. They have credibility. We want to get
to the bottom of it. But what's clear here is the White House.
First they fired Dr. Shulkin because they they wanted to
politically they wanted to politicize the VA and privatize
In the President seems to go along with the Koch brothers and
others against what every veterans group that's spoken out
about it says, and
I had to stop there because he's got to be the host of issues
that don't say what they are, except a wreck in the car and
being drunk all the time. Right. Then he gratuitously throws in
an old bromide. The Koch brothers. Yeah,
it's interesting.
It's interesting because the Koch brothers hate Trump. They
fought against Trump. They didn't want Trump to get in. I
think they were supporting Jeb Bush never gave him any money
along with US Citizens United, which I'm surprised he doesn't
drop that in there. These are old Democrat bromides, the Koch
brothers. And when he throws that in concrete, Trump and the
Koch brothers are about polar opposites on almost everything.
So this is bulk but when they said they're very concerned, let
me okay, yes, I understand your concern. But regardless of what
is happening, or what this guy did or didn't do, why is this
just to is this just a really pathetic ploy? Just to make
Trump look like he's an idiot? Is that the idea that exactly in
a ruin this guy by the way, Michael Flynn got exonerated
from any collusion. Of course his life ruined. Yeah. She's
gonna ruin this guy. Is it black guy to know he's not
the admiral. No, is
No, he's not to photos. Doctor was a black guy. No, is that
dead? Dead smooth talking guy. White guys been in there? You
know, Obama's not gonna have a black. Dr.
Hale. What's it? What's his name again? Something Jackson, Ronnie
Jackson. Ronnie
Jackson, why did I think it was a black guy.
But our white has died because you're thinking of you thinking
of probably the neurosurgeon.
Okay, this is a very white guy.
Well, that's just problem. That's his problem.
Yeah, he's a black guy. But yeah, you're right. There's some
truth to that if he was a black guy, there's no chance they're
gonna do this. Probably not. Let's go. Let's go into more
bullshit number three,
against what every veterans group that's spoken out about it
says in the Veterans Group Life in the VFW that and that's the
Disabled American vets the Paralyzed that all of them
oppose privatization of VA because they know, of course,
people on top that make money from this private company but
veterans health services. And it's not.
This is not about privatization. But he changes the subject and
kind of miss mixes the two ideas that this Jackson guy and
privatization all the one of the same so that the names these
veteran groups, as if the veteran groups are against this,
okay, I got very,
no, here's, here's what's going on. This, we know the Veterans
Group is a huge group, and I'm pretty sure a lot of them voted
for Trump, because he is all about the military. This is this
is a feeble attempt to win over the hearts and minds of vets by
saying your President and his administration don't care about
you. They put a drunk in charge. Look how stupid they are. Yeah,
I think you're right. Let's go with this finish clip three,
veterans health services. And morality agency always suffers
when you do that. So you start with that. But now then the then
there's more chaos injected here. Because there's no backup
plan. And I'm gonna talk to people that work at the
Cincinnati VA or the Dayton VA or the Chillicothe, your
Cleveland VAs or the community based outpatient clinics in Lima
in Mansfield, Ohio. They tell you, we just want a VA. That's
it's got a stable management that does predictable things,
instead of this chaos with no chaos in sight, as Dr. Jackson
continues to found her and people in both parties keep
asking questions at the White House never asked.
Okay, now there it is. Yeah. And he's using an old meme. Why is
he I mean, he should be used some. Is this this his own thing
that I think shared is a drunk. He's drunk.
I'm curious now about these 23 people. Do we ever talk about
who they are? Is there any
brings it up again, one more time in the last clip. Now the
short clip. But this time he goes into listen carefully,
where he says one thing and then kindly says, Well, I know how
the White House says I've been there. I've been there. Why not?
Really? I've never really been there. But it's unbelievable.
This character's vetting
some of these nominee I'm concerned that they're vetting
at all. I mean, from From my observations up close. I've been
in the White House a number of times. I've watched them up
close. I've seen their nomination process. Pretty
close. I mean, I'm not at the White House watching the do the
nomination. What happens if the president finds has an idea of
somebody usually based on likability and loyalty, loyalty
to the president, not necessarily to the people this
cap But agency person might. The person they might serve like the
veterans. He likes them. He finds them loyal. He says he
wants to nominate them and they move without staff saying wait a
minute, Mr. President, like they always say another other White
House. Wait a minute, we need to make a lot of calls to find out
his background. If there's any problems looking for six years,
you should shoes or performance issues. These 23 people we
talked to, apparently none or very few of them. Were ever
called by the White House quickly, senator to duck.
Okay, hold on a second. What's this? What's this Jim oaks,
Nate. I know you can talk to so what's his name is Jared brown
SHA some. He says that 23 people and these 20 these 23 people now
have been taken to some level of you know, some, some height, the
pantheon of 23 people. And apparently, except a couple of
he says none of them were ever content. Well, a couple of them
were he keeps backing off ons half of this stuff. None of them
are content. Well, a couple of more. But who are these people
that they be contacted in the first place? He says they're
veterans of some sort, that maybe they've moved on to other
things. It could be janitors for all we know. But you know,
somebody's bitchy. I can't believe this. Luckily, that the
Asian guy who's on PBS Newshour is was not happy with this guy's
performance. Brown cutting them off. Brown
was vetted as it's Jared J. E. RR OD,
Brian. They always present Sherrod.
No, he was vetted as a potential vice presidential running mate
for Hillary Clinton in 2016. The choice ultimately came down to
brown and Tim Kaine who was selected as Clinton's running
mate. Yeah, it would came was more gay, so it was better
Brown, one of Bernie
Sanders closest allies in the US Senate endorsed Clinton and
campaign for her prior to the 2016 Democratic primary in Ohio.
Washington Monthly suggested that as a potential presidential
candidate in 2020, brown could unite the establishment and
progressive wings of the Democratic Party.
There you go.
He's ramping up. Hey, I would give
this a shot. He can't express himself. Well, let's
see what let's let's look at his background. Hold on.
Uh huh.
He's a doctor son. This is really where it all starts.
Brown was in Mansfield, Ohio, the son of Emily and Charles
Gailey Brown, MD. He was named after his maternal grandfather
became an Eagle Scout. We Oh, we love our Eagle Scouts.
I think Eagle Scouts are high. I respect that
in 1967 he became an Eagle Scout. Holy crap. How
old is the guy he was 40 at the time, so
I received a Bachelor of Arts degree in Russian studies from
real university in 74.
I went to Yale study Russian he spoke live he actually has the
voice of kind of a spook. He lived
in Davenport College. While in college, brown volunteered for
liberal politicians such as George McGovern, and went on to
receive a Master of Arts degree in education and a Master of
Public Administration. Degree from Ohio State University in
Columbus respectively. He taught the Mansfield branch campus of
Ohio State University, he backpacked in India during the
State of Emergency imposed by Prime Minister Indira Gandhi.
Oh, backpacker.
Well, we know they're all spooks. You know, backpacker
wanders off. Oh, I'm in North Korea all of a sudden, oh, I'm
in I'm an Indian. Iran. Oh, I'm in India during the state of
emergency. He's making a run. You've probably watched this.
I'll get this guy. Oh, I can do this. I'm Gerrard. Brown,
dammit. Don't you think that's how it went down?
It's possible that when I mean it's definitely your analysis is
absolutely correct. But whether went down like that, I wonder at
the cocktail. I've been told to do this, because he's so
nervous. And his waist as well. You know, I was in the White. I
know how they do this. But although I've never been there.
I mean, they just can't express himself very well.
That's good. That's good.
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That's all Yes. Okay. And he dunk?
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And this is what all the kids used to joke about. Yeah.
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I can't believe you you bought into it. My parents were cruel.
I guess so. Talking about the dirty 30s I got a couple more
for you.
Ah the dirty 30s Yes, let's go okay, yeah,
what do you think all the way means?
All the way means going all the way home a home run nothing Pat
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Chocolate Cake or fudge with ice cream.
Wookiee do come sorry if that change somewhere along the
lines.
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he's out of money. No good. It
means he's no good. He's no good. Okay, but you're not
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of being a phone. Yeah.
Okay. Apple, Apple. But any big town or city? New York being the
big big apple interesting.
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What's it been shooter a get a rod Rosco a heater a convinced
her
a weapon of some sort
that gun. Yeah. Gun. Get I gotta get like, Hey, where's your
Roscoe bring it again? I like I like Roscoe. Roscoe. Roscoe.
I'm strapped with my Roscoe bro.
What's beat beat beat
beat is your beat is where you where you walk where? Your
Neighborhood your place your BS. You're broke. Oh, you're
beat beat man. A deadbeat does very broke. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Behind the grind.
Behind The grind is backstage at an MTV show.
Behind in one studies. Okay. Big House who's Gao?
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Big House the boss. Who's Gao?
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big Oh, okay. Gotcha. The big house. Yes. I should have known
that one.
You should have known that one. That's one against this minus
one. bleed. bleed. I'm gonna bleed him to cut someone know to
extort or blackmail. Read
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you totally blow. Get me on the blower.
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shutters peepers saw boobs.
She's got great peepers says the I hadn't got one. No, it's eyes.
Oh, please.
That's about genders. That's about boobs. shutters
and lamps now. Okay. Lamps will go on to Judas next show. Ready?
Yeah. Blow your wig
to get on the plane as a president.
It's a good good answer, but it means become very excited. Yes,
I thought was to get very mad. But yeah, blow your top while
you're awake. I've heard those
30s We got to get a few of these back and play. Like Roscoe.
Roscoe is good. I like that. Yeah. What else? Give me another
one.
All right. I'm annoyed that I get this wrong.
Okay, you get this one. Booze coach giggle juice and mule.
Wow, that's alcohol. The whiskey and festivities right. Close
enough. Yeah. Music Good one.
You never get this. Brody.
Brody. You can ask me to use it in a sentence.
Could you use the word in a sentence, please? Yeah, I pulled
a Brody. Wow. It's like some massive failure. Ah, right.
Yeah, but where does it come from?
That mistake?
Where does it come from?
I don't know. But I always thought I didn't realize it went
back to the 30s because I remember when did you use the
word Brodie and I always thought to refer to the 40 Niners
quarterback in the 50s Okay, Brody, did you do something
really bad? No. He used to always flip run around the field
they like like he was being chased by wild dogs now. He was
known for making making quick U turns and it was always I always
thought when they said pull the Brody I thought that meant just
turn around and go the other way. So I was befuddled
apparently when I was a kid. One more. One more last one. Okay,
it's a bunch of them again. Brunos goons, hatchet men,
torpedoes and trigger men. Yeah, well,
these are foot soldiers of some mob
Yeah, yeah. hired gunmen or other tough guys. How about
Okay, one last one more just because you need this one.
bulge. bulge isn't a sentence. He's got a bulge. Oh. Got a lot
of money. Having an advantage.
Well, that's all men's like Battle of the Bulge. I guess.
I'm not sure. Okay. But that's more that was in the 40s. So
that couldn't have been Battle of the Bulge but introduced last
era. Yes. Well, I tried to bring some of it back. Well,
so so far, we have so far we have as Roscoe Roscoe. I loved
Roscoe. And I'd like you to find out where that's from. Get is
another one. Now I'd like Roscoe I like Roscoe we can we can
implement some
connection between Gatling gun and gab. Sure there is. Yeah.
Okay. I'll
find out Roscoe.
Milo Yiannopoulos. Da wanted it all out him. Yeah, he he wanted
a nice roast. He was with a friend of his but thinks some
blog journal. And they had booked this place in in New York
on a Sunday. And they wanted to have a traditional English
roast, which they make their which I think you have to book
that in advance. And they're in there. And then coincidentally,
some other group of people who identified by some name I can't
remember, which also included a couple of journals from I think
one from BuzzFeed and maybe one from salon. And this is what
they said to Milo was he was standing there waiting for his
table Get out. Get out. Get out. Get out everybody. Out. Thanks.
How insane is that?
That's very insane. What kind of civility are these people
exhibiting?
I mean, first of all, I'm going to call him a Nazi scum. It just
doesn't make any sense. It's just dumb. Yeah, and then it
looks like a reasonably nice restaurant. And what the hell
was
wrong with these people? Wow. Well, I'll
tell you it starts early on and it start it's all starts here
and in our country's early on. This is a story from
Massachusetts
Giulio Hartwell loves her dolls in arts and crafts and like most
four year olds, she has a best friend.
She said, you know, selling so you're my best buddy. The
teacher told her that she couldn't say that school.
That pin socket workshop preschool. That's not a term
Julia can use to describe her friendship.
I think it's ridiculous. And children who are four years old
speak from their heart so they should be able to call kids.
Anything loving me or my best friend. You're my best pal.
The Georgetown preschool offered this explanation to Julius
parents saying the term best friend can lead other children
to feel excluded, and it can ultimately lead to the formation
of cliques and outsiders, encouraging their students to
have a wider group of friends.
Although I think that words are really important and the term
best does have an implied meaning to it. I don't know if
the right answers necessarily did nine children have the
ability to use that
term. Even now she goes to say it in a loving way. I'm gonna go
see my best friend, Charlie on this one or that one. And she
looks at me sideways as she's saying it. And she's checking in
with me to see if that language is okay.
Christine Hartwell tells us her daughter will not be going to
school the rest of the year, we reached out to the pentacle
workshop preschool for comment. So far, we have not heard back.
So I just found the contrast of these two clips back to back to
be just astounding in context of our world today. Well, it's not
okay for a child to say you're my best friend, a four year old
child, but you can stand in the restaurant and call someone a
Nazi scum.
Yeah, the hell? The hell isn't combination. That is a
fantastic.
What kind of values are we? Are we exposing here?
Well, back to ABC, because I was talking about their report on
this Jackson guy, the doctor. Yeah, was pretty lopsided. But
ABC, which I'm now monitoring, I found this to be very dubious
that I want you to listen to this is about some buddy had
apparently taped or they had written notes or something for a
big meeting the NFL say and Apple's got this big problem
with with image. And yeah,
because their TV show is being ruined.
And they have they had a meeting with the players about
oh, this was the secret recording. Yeah.
Nobody plays the recording, by the way. Explain. explain,
explain. Alright, so they had a meeting about all the old nerves
and all the top players got together for some big meeting to
try to resolve this kneeling problem, an image problem of the
league. But of course, nobody wants to report on anything
about that. They want to report on the fact that a couple of
negative things are saying Said About Trump. But I want to
deconstruct this particular report that ABC does I call it a
dubious, it's a hit piece. There's no real reason to do
this piece at all, except just to give Trump a bad time and I
find it to be a pourraient they got other things to do with
their time and the way they the way they position this piece.
And the way they presented it was really nauseating. Whether
you like Trump or not.
In the meantime, we move on tonight the recordings leaked
NFL players and owners their private meeting they were
talking about NFL protests. And President Trump and the
President's own friend patriots owner Bob Kraft, and what he
said about the president here tonight, Gio Benitez,
the President and the Patriots again and again talking up his
friendship with star quarterback Tom Brady and team owner Bob
Kraft. Friends, they
own teams and Bob Kraft is a great owner craft
even giving the President his own Super Bowl
ring. No team has been this good for this long.
But today, new recordings obtained by the New York Times
reveal crafts deep frustration when the President attack
players taking a knee during the national anthem.
Wouldn't you love to see one of these NFL owners? When somebody
disrespects our flag to say get that son of a gun off the field
right now out he's fired.
The President's words topic a at a private meeting of NFL owners
and players in October. According to the Times Kraft
called on the group to address the elephant in the room this
kneeling. The problem we have is we have a president who will use
that as fodder to do his mission that I don't feel is in the best
interests of America. It's divisive and it's horrible.
Publicly, the Patriots mounting a show of unity on the field Tom
Brady linking arms with his teammates. And David several
other NFL owners took on the president during that private
meeting one reportedly calling his presidency disastrous.
Another adding this we need to put a bandaid on what's going on
in this country, David.
Okay. Now, first of all the at the very end of that report,
there's two gratuitous slaps. One of the owner says is
disastrous, and another one said we need to put a bandaid on
something or
other and why didn't they play the audio from those quotes?
Why did I don't care about the audio? Why don't you just name
the guys? There you go. They didn't name the guys, but they
did name Robert Kraft. So why do you name Robert Kraft but you
don't name the other guys. And how do you know that there
wasn't somebody saying yeah, the President's fine. He's got
nothing to do with it. That could have happened to but
that's not going to be reported. And then these other guys aren't
going to be named because this may have never even happened
because they didn't have a tape of it. They just call out Robert
Kraft because the president at early on, mentioned him as a PAL
and they're just going after your friend of Trump's we're
going after you Yeah, wow was a hit piece is designed to keep
everybody about Trump. Yeah, I thought this was a really a bad
piece of propaganda sent the wrong message. It was really
poor journalism. And then to throw out two gratuitous
commentaries will One now the President's a disaster said Who
knows who? We had his name. I don't know why you don't say his
name.
Man, you keep this up. You're gonna get the Presidential Medal
of Honor. Yeah, yeah, no good,
good even get invited to the inauguration and you actually
came out publicly very, very early on and were listed as in
the Celebrity list of people who came out for Trump. And you
didn't even get invited. No to anything. No. Yeah, no, we're
not getting Yeah, what I'm doing this because this is a news
deconstruction show. And that's a good example of shitty news.
very shitty news.
Yeah. More shitty news. This is
starting to heat up in the Netherlands. I did a big hit
search and found more examples of this from 2008. But
apparently some opera is now a conductor now not a conductor.
But anyway, there's a big problem with Mozart's opera. The
magic magical flute did Salba Floyd. Yeah. It's apparently
misogynistic and racist.
Did you know this?
I know it now. Yeah. If you Is there an explanation for this?
Yes. What was this written in? 1640?
Yes, yes. And the lyrics? Yeah, they're very racist. And
misogynistic. You know, it's talking about women. They should
be in the kitchen. Like, boy, he's his tongue as his black as
his skin saying, you know, this black guy was a liar. Yeah, it's
very racist. But I guess it's gonna be off the books now. Burn
it. Get rid of get rid
of Mozart's got to go.
That Amadeus aihole Get rid of him.
Isn't that great? Yeah, just that actually is great.
This for the end of the show. I have these three clips from 60
minutes last night because I promised earlier in this
program, that as you said, you know, face bag needs to be
attacked by the media. Well, 60 Minutes did a pretty good job
yesterday. And it wasn't hard for them. They got a hold of
Aleksandr Kogan. This is the guy who did the psychological survey
for Cambridge analytical, which of course, you know, as we know,
now, the Russian bots retweeted the ads based upon this
targeting, and Trump won,
and Hillary lost. That's the reason Okay, so first of
all, the guy is a really personable kind of nerdy guy.
You know, he's perfect the way that he taught at the
university. And he starts off with just blowing everyone's
mind with the true information, which if you didn't see 60
minutes or you listen to the no agenda show, you'll know all
about this.
For someone implicated in the biggest privacy scandal on
Earth. Other Cogan secretly
This is the biggest privacy scandal on earth. What? That's
CBS 60 minutes.
The biggest privacy scandal on Earth on Earth. Okay.
I think the OP W. The OPM, the Office of Personnel Management
was more scandalous.
That's still ongoing. I'm okay.
For someone implicated in the biggest privacy scandal on
Earth. Nicole seems in Congo Wesley
guileless be Whoa, whoa, incongruous Lee guileless. What
does that mean?
Well, in current, it means there's some sort of it doesn't
make sense that he is so calm and doesn't seem to think any of
this is important or something like that as my guess
it's just a great combo of words in Congress. Lucia Eilis
loves her words at privacy scandal on Earth. Cogan, seems
in Congress asleep guileless. before all this happened, what
was your job? And what was your field of study?
So I was a social psychologist. I was working as a university
lecturer at the University of Cambridge in England and
England. And I ran this lab that studied happiness and kindness,
and happiness
and kindness. Yep, that's a far cry from the adjectives lobbed
at him now, sinister, and unethical. Here's what he did.
He asked Facebook users to take a survey he designed from which
he built psychological profiles meant to predict their behavior.
He failed to disclose one, that what he was really after was
access to their friends 10s of millions of people he could not
otherwise reach easily. And to that he was doing the survey for
Cambridge Analytica, a political consulting firm that use the
material to influence people on how to vote. The companies then
CEO bragged about their prediction models on stage
by having hundreds and hundreds of 1000s of Americans undertake
this survey, we were able to form a model to predict the
personality of every single adult in the United States of
America.
Oh, did you get to the point where you were predicting
personalities? And you gave that to Cambridge? Analytical?
Correct? What did you think they were going to use it for?
I knew it was going to be for elections. And I had a
understanding or a feeling that was going to be for the
Republican side, how was what you did. So I create this app
where people sign up to do a study. And when they sign up to
do the study, we would give them a survey. And then the survey,
we would have just this Facebook login button, and they would
click the button bond rises, we get to authorize us to do what
it's collect certain data, we would collect things like the
location, the gender, the birthday, their page likes and
similar information for their friends. And all of this was
did you say you collected information on their friends? We
did. But they didn't opt
in. So they didn't opt in explicitly?
No, no, no, they didn't opt in period. They did. The friends
did not opt in. And that
seems crazy now, but the this was a core feature of the
Facebook platform for years. This was not a special
permission you have to get this was just something that was
available to anybody who wanted it. Who was a developer. Yes.
How
many apps? Do you think there are? How many developers who did
what
you did? 10s of 1000s 10s
of 1000s 1000s. And Facebook, obviously was aware,
of course, there was a feature, not a bug.
That got hard and heavy now lesley stahl not messing around.
And she Shocked.
Shocked,
has she done? No has none. No one has done any research there
at CBS. And she really shocked does she not? Does she not
realize yes,
I don't think they do research anymore. Sandy para keyless, who
used to work at Facebook explained,
the way it works is if you're using an app, and I'm your
friend, you can say, hey, Wesley, we want to get your data
for use in this app. We also want to get your friends data.
If you say, I will allow that, then the app gets my data to
what you're saying is I give permission for the friend, the
friend doesn't give permission, right?
I mean, it doesn't feel right. When you say it doesn't
feel right. I mean, Facebook should have been aware of how
this could be abused, because they were repeatedly ruined,
including by Patrick culus, who used to be a manager in charge
of protecting data at the company. He says he raised
concerns years before Cogan built his app,
I think they didn't want to know, you know, the impression
that I got working there is they didn't want the public to know,
well, they didn't want to know, in the sense that if, if they
didn't know, then they could say they didn't know and they
weren't liable. Whereas if they knew they would actually have to
do something about it. And one of the things that I was
concerned about was that applications or developers of
applications would receive all this Facebook data. And that
once they received it, there was no insight. Facebook had no
control or view over what they were doing with the data.
Once the data left Facebook. Did Facebook have any real way to
find out what happened to it? No. Was it just gone?
It was gone. They could put it on a hard drive and they could
hide it in the closet?
Would you say then policing this was pretty impossible. It was
very frustrating. Did you bring this to the attention of the
higher ups? The
executives? Yeah, a number of folks including several
executives. So were the executives hair
on fire? Did they say oh my god, we have to fix this we have to
do something I
didn't really see any traction in terms of making changes to to
protect people. They didn't prioritize it, I think is how I
would phrase it
that they didn't prioritize privacy.
Yes, I would say that they prioritize the growth of users
the growth and the data they can collect and their ability to
monetize that through advertising that's what they
prioritize because those were the metrics and are the metrics
that the stock market cares about.
I'm gonna send you that mute button so fast you have no idea
you've been harping through all the clips on coffin
I gave you have been talking three hours and now I've got my
cough syrup sworn off. So I'm coughing I'm sorry. I'll get up.
Yeah, you sent me to mute mute button and won't be a problem.
Okay, done. last clip. And this is the kicker because Alexander
Cogan
was not away yes Cheryl Sanders is the CEO. Oh, yeah, it's
totally she knew she's the one not Zuckerberg, yeah.
And he brought it to upper executive management's attention
so she has to be Cheryl.
Yes, it has to be everybody knows that they of course they
don't care about other stuff that there's ideas. They are
going to
kill
mainstream media, with their with the with the we've talked
about this offline. With the ability to target people for
advertising, yes. Media has no prayer against them.
No. Well, unless they do hit job after hit job, but there is some
factual a little late in the game. Well, they don't they're
just now shocked and surprised that you were giving permission
to get get your friends data. Oh, there's 10s of 1000s. These
people kind of bubbled Does she live in?
I mean, do some work, lady.
All right. Here's the kicker though. Alexander Cogan did not
work alone, the company
didn't start notifying the 10s of millions of users whose data
had been scraped until this month.
And I hate that I hate it. I hate it I hated it was like
saying glitch. The data was not scraped. Scraped implies. You
did some kind of trickery hackery to get the names in a
way you weren't supposed to know. This was a part of the
system a feature. Yes, so it stopped with your scraped the
company
didn't start notifying the 10s of millions of users whose data
had been scraped until this month. They never took action
against this man, Joseph Chancellor, who was Coggins co
worker and where is he today?
He works at Facebook.
Wait a minute. Did he have anything to do with the study
you did for Cambridge Analytica? Yeah,
I mean, we did everything together. So they've come after
you,
but not someone who did exactly what you did with you. Yes. And
he actually works at Facebook. Correct? Are you on Facebook?
No, they, they deleted my account. You
can't be on Facebook, you're banned on Dan's and the partner?
Why? Correct? What's wrong with this picture? I'm missing
something.
I mean, this is my frustration with all this, where I had a
pretty good relationship with Facebook for years, at least so
they knew who you were. I visited their campus. Many
times. They had hired my students and even did a
consulting project with Facebook and November of 2015. And what I
was teaching them was lessons I learned from working with this
data so that we have collected rich analytics. So I was
explaining like, here's kind of what we did. And here's what we
learned. And here's how you could apply it internally to
help you with surveys and survey predictions and things like that
any collusion
confirm that Cogan had done research and consulting with the
company in 2013 and 2015. But in a statement total 60 minutes. At
no point during these two years was Facebook aware of Cogan 's
activities with Cambridge Analytica,
except when he presented the data and how we slice and dice
it Cogan
is testifying before the British Parliament next week. He says
he's financially ruined and discredited. Through his ordeal,
he says he's come to see the error in the assumptions made by
the tech world about Americans attitudes toward privacy.
Now this is so first of all, yeah, wow. The guy's partner who
did all this work with him is working at face bag. He
consulted on the very data he took. None of this came up in
the 10 hours of testimony. No, in fact, quite the opposite.
This was an evil guy, but his equally evil partner, it works
at the face bag.
This is just This is outrageous.
It is and now he gets to the crux.
Now we all know what you did. Was it right
back then we thought it was fine. Right now my opinion has
really been changed, and has been changed in particular.
Because I think that core idea that we had that everybody knows
nobody cares was fundamentally flawed. And so if that idea is
wrong, then what we did was not right. I was not wise and for
that I'm sincerely sorry.
And this of course has not changed. This is still the exact
mentality of Silicon Valley. Getting it for free. Totally
getting it for free. Everyone knows the deal. Everyone knows
the deal. Don't lie, but they really show exactly that's
exactly it. Yeah. And they really don't know
the deal. That's the problem. Anyway, I
thought that was good work on CBS his behalf lesley stahl
Damas she is or at least dumber she acts I thought it was good
and you know I don't I don't know if anyone cares
probably not but we'll pick up on these are getting the list of
mainstream media is getting a clue about these guys. This is a
dangerous company for them for their existence. This is an
existential threat.
And here I thought we are here. I
thought we were the threat the podcasters
podcasters Yeah, was that podcast clip again?
Yeah, that's how we're discredited. Throw a show on
that makes podcasters look like doofus idiots. Okay, Boff, good.
No one will want to listen that junk. That's what I'm thinking.
Well, it's pretty good. it. Yeah, it could be true.
All right, everybody that is your media deconstruction for
this Thursday, April 26 2018, episode 1028. We return on
Sunday with another episode for you and who knows what will
happen in the meantime anything couldn't happen today. It is
after all the show today. So until then, I am coming to you
from downtown Austin, Texas, capital of the drone Star State
FEMA Region six on the governmental maps in the five by
nine studio in the common law, condo in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam curry,
and from Northern Silicon Valley. Well remember,
everything just gets worse. I'm Jesse Dvorak
until Sunday, remember us at the vortech.org/na and as always,
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