Hey, gotta save face. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. Thursday,
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Wait a minute. Why are in Holland and you went and you met
the queen and the king? Yeah, I did. Didn't do but did you also
go see any of the royalty there
See, I don't have Mike my noisemakers I'd left them in the
in the room. So I can't I can't do my walker Walker said that
all or virtually? No. Yeah, actually had any now the only
thing I have is the bill. I just have a bill up playing that a
lot. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, top it's top of the news here.
Bob. I was I was headline news. Oh, she did. You should send
some of our posts some of the articles
about this Google. Adam curry. You'll see it with so the idea
being stuff you want to You're right. What am I even thinking?
I'm sorry? Being it baby. Is that what you want to start
with? I mean, not that it's like top of the news in America.
Well, I think it's, it gets it out of the way. I think people
want to know all right. Yes, I was invited to the out blinkers
lunch. And an out blinker means you are a sparkler a twinkle or
something that that that when you are shine or I guess shine
or you know shining star. Deadwood it means the United
States I'll blinker means that you're you're passed out drunk
in the alley. It's kind of the same thing in Holland, I think.
Except then you get to go visit the king and the queen. So there
are about 25 people and these people who want interesting
awards are achieved such things as the fastest man to row across
the ocean single handedly. When ocean died the Atlantic Ocean
No, actually, I think he went around the world. Yeah, he did
multiple oceans.
Wow, yeah, must have a huge arm guy with First of all, the guy
was seven feet tall. And it was just it was a beast, the beast
of a guy. But then they'll you know, then there's the top cop
who's done something heroic, and there was the very multi CultI
so you had
you know, like, actors couple of like theater actors. Not really
that well known. But you know, it was obviously a very racist
choice, you know, the first black female to win the, you
know, a certain theater acting award.
And it was almost presented like that. It's like, Okay, how about
just she was the actor who won the Theatre Award. She was quite
funny.
Who else? Yeah, of the
the immigrant Entrepreneur of the Year. And then of course,
the Marconi award winner. That's pretty much how it goes.
So far, so good. Yeah. So you get to go well, apparently this
is a thing where people are hoping that they're on the list
and then of course, I didn't know anything about it and they
don't didn't really explain that until a couple of emails back
and forth with the with the ladies of the court, the king
and queens court. So it get there.
You know, it's it's very similar to my experience, I'm smacking,
smacking Shut up. Let me get through it. Okay.
If you're gonna interrupt me on every little thing, save
every little thing, just every every other thing? Well, let me
just have a sip then.
Onward. You always do this when I'm excited about telling story
always going to be trying to calm me down so you're not so
you don't start smacking and saying weird things.
First, it's very different from the British Royal Palace. If you
recall, yes, I'm collecting my experiences. If you recall, when
I went there, there was a big reception room and with all
kinds of cool paintings and this is really one of the palaces I
think they only do the Dutch one that they were they only do
reception so I don't think the King and Queen stay there
necessarily. So you go and you go up the steps that it was kind
of cool. They got the guards and they immediately they put their
swords up to their nose. There's a picture of that coming. Of
course I wasn't allowed to take any pictures inside like please
no pictures, no selfies. Now they said no selfies they they
must
selfies is not the same as a picture no pictures had just
don't take any pictures as a group photo at the end of the at
the end of the. Yeah now so it was from 12 to two I get there
the 1130 does hide everybody they take you up the marble
start staircase. And yeah, there's a little little
welcoming drink. And you got all the all the dudes in their
little outfits. You know, would you call them the henchmen who
are serving drinks? When then you're you know, you kind of
didn't explain the protocol though. I read the protocol as
your backup, saying that I'm imagining there's a big table.
No, it's just standing like reception really is just a
cocktail. Exactly. high top tables. I'm sorry, I'll try and
do a better job. But still, it's a one big white marble room with
pillars and cocktail tables, high tops, and we're high
ceiling. Hot, very high. See, this is the palace. And you
know, but it's this it's kind of empty. There's really nothing of
any merit, no super art that I noticed it just man, no big
portraits just kind of bland, kind of like a gumboot
government function room.
And the drinks, you know, no alcohol was
caused me. No, not not not not at the stand up cocktail party.
So there's a cocktail party with no cocktail. Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, that's exactly right. But they had cassis no Cassidy's.
Yeah. Cuz Sisa, CCl, we call it classes here, which I hadn't had
in years. So I had one of those, then, you know, I had looked at
the protocol book because I know I think that's kind of proper.
In the i n the only rules kind of are you don't speak unless
you're spoken to. You don't reach out your hand to shake
their hands unless they do it. You know, they reach out to
yours. If the king or queen stands up, you stand up you you
wait until the the King and Queen says you can sit and then
you sit and that's pretty much it.
Well, I'd wanted to do it right. I want to be good. You can't You
look like an idiot if you didn't. But I just imagined that
people stand scared to death stiff. Well, so then what? So
we're not really told anything but please stand in a big you
formation, alright, and a big U formation a moment the king
queen come out. And they will go around and they'll say hi to
everybody. And I was number two. And then number one, some
business guy who I actually I knew I'd met him a long time ago
that he'd wants a Business Innovation Award is it's kind of
like you got an award you can get to see the kick in the coin.
It was got to be a funky one. Yeah, okay. So they come in. And
you know, the first the king at the end he says, Ah, I'm so
happy to meet you in person. Finally, I was a little a little
a little flub flabbergasted, really? It was nice to see you
in person to majesty. Oh, yeah. You have to say, majesty, my
state.
And yeah, that's okay. That's kind of nice. And then the
queen, she think you should have roiled over that one. What do
you mean, roiled? Oh, I should? I wouldn't, I don't Okay, but
what do you say something the Americans should not put up
with, with this sort of majesty thing? Like, oh, great leader. I
wonder if Kim Jong Un expects that from Dennis Rodman? I don't
think so. Maybe he does. I don't know. Well, I think that after
this first meeting, next time I see the king, we might be able
to be hanging out a little bit more informed to
relax.
The queen of the Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. And all
right, then go around. And then the king just said, it's great
to have everybody here. And I'm glad to small, small company.
And we'll go in we'll make sure we we sit with all of you. And
let's have a nice lunch. And so the doors open as lunch. Yes,
it's lunch, the doors open. And there are four round tables. And
I had my seating assignment. I was sitting right next to the
king. And the king was at table one. And then you had the Queen
was at table three. And the idea was after the main course the
bed roll Miranda notice. Didn't they switch? Exactly? Yeah.
Well, I don't they have four tables. They also have two empty
seats and the other tables they sit there Well, now they had two
of the ladies, though, you know, the ladies in waiting when a
ball roll on his thigh the business ladies.
You're telling me that two of the tables never had a visit of
the from the queen or the king?
No, each No. No, they switched. So the other day I went to every
table. Yeah. So that there was no blank. There was no blank
seats left for no, they had some stooge in their place. Well, not
a seat person like, oh, no, no, the ladies who are in charge of
the social calendar, they're very highly educated, well
spoken, you know, fashionably dressed women who, you know,
they're, you know, they keep you busy, they animate you. They
keep you totally engaged, and they can answer all questions,
but they do leave those seats and the king said, Sir ventually
Yeah, yeah, so you bet you either got the king or the
queen, not both. What was the well, of course, what was the
rotation time? Was it 15 minutes? It was it was one and
it's one row
Station and it was after the main course.
So I really got the king along his way me there's only one I
thought there had to be for rotation. Oh okay. The king one
tabled Queen another table the two ladies are at the the other
tables then the king and the queen go to the tables where the
ladies are at. So you either get a king or a queen
Oh, so in other words, are you with me? There's one rotation
that go the rotation is just you get a king or a queen? Yeah,
yeah, don't get the king and the queen know exactly how that's
thing. Not if your table one next to the king. It doesn't.
Yeah, well, no, it's fine for you when you never got to sit
next to the Queen. Well, I chat up. I chatted up the queen for
20 minutes. But if you let me get through the story,
but she wasn't at the table. That was it was better than
that. Let me get to the story. All right. I just don't care
about you. I'm sympathizing with the guests who got screwed in
this. Yes. If you're a guest who was who started off with a lady
in waiting and then you got the queen? I think he got gypped
Yeah, I agree. Yes. Then I believe there was a hierarchy
and all this just looking at the seating arrangement. I was next
to the king. Yeah, you've made that clear.
And so we're all standing and the king is standing and he's
waiting for everyone to come in and what's behind their chairs
and the king says please everyone Oh, please have a seat.
Have a seat. I'll sit down in a minute. Yes. Nice. Oh, okay. The
Kings kind of cool. Until we all sit down and there's a menu and
I took a picture of the menu actually took the menu home but
I took a picture of it if you're interested in the menu.
I think you posted it and I certainly didn't. Well, I didn't
you send a copy to me. Ah, yes, I did. Maybe really for the
wine. Did you see the wine they served?
No, I don't remember it really Premier Cru rubbers, say barley,
Olivier le flav 2014
Love flavor rules that was at the white wine where you know
that was the white wine. And it was kind of it felt a little
champagny little little petulant. Is that the word pecha
has a few bubbles. Yeah, petulant. That's exactly what I
liked it.
Well, yeah, because the maker of that wine. Le flav is one of the
flavors flavors period, the flavor, flavor, flavor, flavor
flavor. He's the guy's a top grower and burgundy of whites in
particular. Because I looked it up in the bottle is only like 35
euros or something. It's not crazy expensive. It's a cheapy
it's Well, considering you're at an event with a king but it is a
cheap wine. I mean, it's not what he should have served was a
mantra che What a douche. But no, he served you a cheap
brewery. I am going I
believe me this will get out. What does that again? What did
he was he supposed to serve? Mantra che mantra che Okay,
yeah.
I'll write him a new love mantra che to be exact. Okay, Lamont
che Good. I'll send him a note
for it, it seems to me maybe they are on a budget maybe the
red wine was no no, there was no red 101 White that was that
cheap white from one of the best winemakers but oh yeah, it was
definitely one of the best winemakers I will say that that
would be kind of a house wine at this place here that I'm living
to the king
you know what? I think it is the absolute it signal. It really
shows you the Dutch but I'm gonna get something from the
best winemaker and I'm gonna make it really cheap. That is
the that's that's Dutch all the way I have nothing but respect
for the choice. Okay, well if it was tasty It was tasty that's
all that really kinky ended the whole process Yeah, I liked it.
I liked it very much it just didn't you know they kept
serving it via your glass was half that's a plus. Oh yeah. Oh
yeah. The guys poopoo bloop right away right away that we
kept serving it. They started off and it was really it was
beautiful. I mean, it looked fantastic. I wouldn't say it was
great. A great meal. It was kind of basic but it you know when
you have lightly smoked dove with bird Dove Dove when you ate
love Yeah.
Dove Dove Dove. Yes. You know when he dove in this country?
Well, maybe it pairs well with cheap wine flights. cheap
flights. It fares great. We had with what is this bird cream? I
have no idea what bird cream is. Some of it landed on my car.
With horseradish. Horseradish shots. It actually says shots
Red beat Apple MoBay whatever that is, though it was just like
a cute little it was beautiful as nocturia What do you expect
yeah what's going on currently twisty look nice that was hard
it was hard on the plate and then we had what is turbo
mudfish is that what is that an English I thought was a way they
call it turbo hear about okay yeah yeah with a light sauce of
burn was it
sugar snaps it literally says sugar snap it on the monitor
yeah maybe sugar snap yellow squash Naki made of potatoes and
peas peas in the oh that's an interesting idea the other fried
they were deep fried too that was good
but like that was what was odd about it is that it so they had
the big plate with this with the main course on it and they go to
the king and the king you know be grabbed the utensils the you
know the serving fork and spoon puts everything on his plate
they weren't serving and then so went around everyone picked up
the same you know serving things which is really uncomfortable.
Boy that's That sounds really lame. Yeah cuz you know and the
guy was on my left and you know I'm not I know it's a weird
stance like I'm I just don't want to drop this piece of fish
everywhere. I just want to transfer it onto the blade
properly. It was very strange. I'm not sure why that etiquette
is there. Probably some some, you know, some socialist
concept. You know that people should be doing more work.
Some like that. My guess? Yeah, probably. Dessert was very
interesting. It was a lemon curd, marinated with an avocado
marinated avocado and lemon curd and guacamole with vanilla ice
cream. Hold on a second.
Say the whole thing over again.
Is a short circuited. Yes, I know. I'm real. I'm translating
on the fly. But I'm still better than Google Translate marinated
avocado with lemon curd, guacamole and vanilla ice cream.
I heard the word avocado. I think it must be Miss
translating it. Why?
What would you serve avec marinated avocado. Which sounds
like some like herring no marinate and marinated in like
vinegar and oil and vinegar. So the way you Okay, so it's
actually an avocado like in the salad? Yes. With oil and
vinegar. And then lemon curd? Yes. On top of that was
guacamole. What else? Vanilla ice cream.
Oh my God, it was dynamite. I find that so hard to believe
what? You got to try it. It was really was nothing I'm gonna try
I can assure you, but
it's been because I like sweet and sour. The I like sweet and
sour chicken. Yeah, everybody likes sweet and sour. But this
is a combination of avocado and ice cream itself is weird. Yeah,
yeah. No, it looked weird on the plate. I'll give you that
was visualized it is like what? What was nice lemon curd. What's
the point? Ah, I don't know. Decoration major whipped cream?
No, I don't recall. I don't think so. Doesn't say so. So I
don't think so.
Yeah, nice detail was people who had had ordered vegetarian or I
think vegan.
Yeah, they had a whole separate menu, separate courses just as
beautifully made. It was nice. That was nice touch anyway, for
the removal of the flavor. Right. That was part of the
deal. So the king Yeah, he did a little speech for everybody says
up. And what was nice about it is he said, In Holland, we have
a tradition. And you and I've spoken about this many times.
You never want to grow higher than the other blades of grass
because you get your head chopped off. He said, David,
we're changing that. And we want to celebrate those.
They say that in Sweden, too. We want to celebrate everybody who
has done something special and punishing them.
So he goes around the table. Now I'm last in line because he went
counterclockwise and beyond. He just started he was very well
informed and knew who everybody was and was asking questions. He
I have to say he stayed a little too long with actually the
rowing guy that just went on, you know, people kind of
interested in him. Because he was at sea for I don't know, 60
days or so. It's just incredible story. And a certain point that
came and said yeah, but the women were gathered around. Oh,
yeah. No, yeah, they loved him. Anyway, yeah. Handsome. seven
foot tall beast. Yeah, he's been at sea for years. Yes. Raw kinds
of possibilities. This guy.
Even the king like okay, well, that was great. No, we're moving
on to so that we have some other things to talk about. And
He's going around and then it comes to me. I said, Well,
majesty, I can't say I've done the same that many of these
people at the table have done for the country. But at least I
taught everybody how to pronounce Madonna properly. This
got a laugh. And you gotta laugh. Yeah. Well, the king was
like, Yeah, but we know what you've been doing with with
podcasting and what you've been doing with digital media. And I
was like, ah, yeah, I've been and he said, you know,
was he talking about writing about the success of podcasting
and then the, the actress, she very inappropriately, but for
some reason, she says, Oh, are you a millionaire? Now? Like,
yeah, it was she talking about? I don't know. Because it was
like all this stuff. Or the king was talking about how the
awesomeness of me and before I can say anything even so even so
it's better thing get asked somebody very inappropriate. I'm
sure did she regretted it? But
it did before I could say anything the king jumps in, he
says, of course, he's a millionaire because he was a
billionaire. And then he got into aviation with that
helicopter company. Wow.
Oh, man, they uh, he's a pilot. He flies gave you the needle
there. Oh, but it was pilot humor. Because he flies this is
pretty.
This is fantastic. Yeah. And he, he flies for KLM the bureau
whenever he wants to, and he will actually talk to I tried to
fly three times a week, he goes on regular
round trips to Denmark or some other, you know, within the EU,
mostly 730 sevens. And basically, I try to get to three
flights a week, and
just wrote down my notes.
See what else but firstly, just the I was just really nice and
funny. And then not at all stuck up. That which I kind of
expected a little bit of that maybe it was I thought maybe be
kind of dumb. That is a little bit the impression that has
built up around him your principles, you know, the, the
drunk guy who's always hanging out at parties.
So I found to be very knowledgeable. He said something
interesting was we were talking about
and this was just a table discussion about worldly events.
He said, Yeah, we're very proud of Holland. We've never had an
attack here. And you know, that's, that that really shows
you what a great country are in. Like, oh, man, shut up. Crew
Shut up. Shut up. Shut up.
Shut up, shut. I'm just not gonna say anything at all. So
then, but it's great. I liked this guy. You know, we were
joking about all kinds of stuff. He's very funny. Oh, yeah. At
one point, I can't remember how it came up. But I just said, you
know, up until this lunch, majesty,
the most impressive meeting ever had was Steve Jobs. And he says,
oh, man, things must be not going to Oh, Steve Jobs just
have no didn't didn't end up very well. I think he kind of
realized when I said that, that he put his foot in it. But yeah,
the guy the guy that was little payback there for the aviation
joke. The guy was nice. I like him. Good King, very informed
and call him up. Give a chat once a week. You know, give him
a call. Well, hold on get his number. Did you get his sales
and you get us not over? It's not over? It's not over. So then
I see the lady of the corner. My eye she's coming over. It's time
for the switch. I'm like, Okay, I missed it. Hey, King sign for
the switch. Yep, we gotta go sit with someone else. And you know,
be nice over there. And so I get up as the King gets up, because
I'd read the protocol book and everyone else stay seated.
Knocked it out of the park with that little Oh, yeah. And the
king says no one read the protocol book and you knew that
you're supposed to stand and it gets better because the king
says no, no, no, sit down. I said, I read the protocol book.
I'm supposed to stand up. He says you're the only one and he
comes over. He hugs me.
I'm blown away. It's cute. Yeah, it was cool now. So then one of
the ladies waiting is sitting there and we're chatting with
her and I say Can I steal this fork? She said no, no, no, no,
you can't take anything say really? Since you've got a
towels now. Nothing you can take so I did try. I wanted to be
honest about it. So I was allowed to take the menu great.
And then should I steal this fork? Yeah, they were beautiful
it was it was nice nice flatware Yeah, I know when you taken it
wasn't nice flatware. Alright, so then we're should have a set
here. You should make sense some do the suggestion box and I
think this is a good idea because I know when you go to
the White House there's all kinds of little souvenirs she
gets to stuff Yeah, like match that Yeah. I think they should
have a souvenir fork. Yes. Modeled after the real forget
have a bunch of nonsense kind of engraved on it. Yeah, little
presentation box. Yeah, have the date on it. Exactly. Did you get
anything like that?
No
ring around the head.
A metal the hanging off your chest.
Anything like that? No, I think they send us a framed photo of
the group photo. Oh, that stinks. As I get into law eighth
grade, eighth grade, Mrs. Rose.
Then we walk out for coffee, and coffee. We're back in the
cocktail reception area. And the king and queen are just
mingling. And the queen comes over and I'm talking with her
for 20 minutes, just drinking coffee. And she's very tall. And
she I'd say, while she had five inch heels on, I looked very
closely what she was wearing, because I know I had to report
to a number of women in my life. That I mean she's a very
charming woman.
deep brown eyes. Lots of wrinkles around the eyes may
have very little very little makeup if maybe just a base
almost nothing hair. This was not a big public event. I don't
even know if she washed it. It looks stringy. I'll be honest.
I'm being out. Yeah, yeah, a little bit like a hippie girl.
And by the way, but halfway through this 20 minutes there
was a hair flip. I just want to say
I'm like, oh, Hair flip
gray. As you noted that that's good. It's right next to me.
There was a she hid in a face with her hand or anything in the
process. Oh, no, no, there was a such she was wearing a gray
pencil skirt that had bugged me with the jackets. These details
are there are women who listen to the show, John think about
the demo.
The demo just for ski shoes wearing a gray pencil skirt.
Yeah, the problem was the jacket was so many pencils doesn't make
it this is so ill fitting in the back that this it was like she
was holding a shoulder blades back and it was kind of the
purchase price was unacceptable as it's like no one looked at it
and said now that jacket is no good. Only vintage jewelry. very
understated, but not really pretty just like look like like,
oh, grandma's old stuff. I'm sure it was grandma's old stuff.
You know, the old queen was yeah, it was great. It was Oh,
sure. But yeah, nothing like mind boggling. Just I was like,
no, what wasn't really spectacular.
That's just me. So then you should listen.
And she says, How's your daughter?
She's great. Yeah. Did you see that? She's doing all kinds of
fun things and yeah, and with comparing notes as parents about
how my daughter's you know that now you know, 15 I think they
know everything. And it's just you and your girlfriend or his
wife, girlfriend. You know she works at Brown mcdonald house.
Yeah, she runs the whole thing. Yeah.
And she knew everything all the stuff all these details he had
to dosi AOpen Yeah.
Her two of them got together he for the thing is What do you
think we should talk about these idiots? I think they they must
not know. Let's see what we got here. I'm hoping Oh, look at
this. This curry guys kind of interesting.
Then we all through the Illuminati triangle and we went
downstairs for the groups photo.
And this is what I missed. The I guess people knew about the
group photo. Because everyone's like it. Well, I was chatting
with the queen. And then all of a sudden, pretty much everyone's
gone except me. The queen and the king who's standing behind
her says maxima. It's time for the group photo. And then OSHA.
Then we start walking downstairs. Of course everyone
ran down because if you're first then you get to sit next to the
king and the queen.
Yeah, well, you get to hang out with them. Right but I didn't
know about this. So we're walking down maxima goes down
first. The King is walking next to me. We're still talking about
flying about flying. Then but and so of course I'm stuck in
the back behind what looks like a corpse.
Some lady hanging out with a corpse now she was in front of
me.
I'm not sure what her what her act was. But if you see the
photo, it's like where's curry? You know, half of my head is
obscure. Dated lady looks like she's dead.
Oh, dammit. I didn't get the good photo.
And yeah, then we do the photos. And then it's tell you as two
minutes to two everything's like clockwork. And then everyone
says says goodbye. And then you're out on the street.
Al bam. Sounds like it sounds a good afternoon. It was a great
afternoon. I had a lot of fun. I did.
And I appreciate it.
It made me look like a superhero here. People can't believe it.
Everybody wants to know What were they like?
It's very odd. That's the oddest part.
As if he I guess, yeah.
Well, I think Did you get his number I just
question I asked earlier, you told me that you're going to
answer that. But you never did. I do not have his number. But my
feeling is I could probably reach out to them and at least
give them the fork idea.
Fork, it would be good. Yeah. But I think they would
appreciate that.
You know why that feeling? If I send them the fork idea, they
might just send me a fork.
Well, that's good, too. Yeah, that works for you. That's what
I mean. That's what that means person.
Well, I think YouTube should hang out. I'd like to.
Now you can corrupt him with no agenda stop. God, is that I had
to, I had to bite my tongue. Like, I'm not doing this. I'm
not going to do this. Not going to do it. It's better better to
have a 30 minute story on the show than to be thrown out of
the palace.
Place.
Exactly. guards came away.
Anything else happened?
Yes, I actually I've watched. I've watched all of it. I'm glad
you got I got a few clips I thought were important. Those
are no good. He's no good. I mean, all I had most of the
times waste is saying senator and Congressman, I guess
somebody asked the question. Well, Senator, Senator, Senator,
Congressman, Congressman, Congressman, he, he got so
robotic about it. And when he started talking about to a
woman, he said, Congressman, I mean, Congresswoman, I Congress
behind me, this woman, I was actually thinking we should
address each other whenever we talk like podcasts, or let me
tell you about what's happening in the news. You call each other
podcaster. Like guest a podcast. I use the phrase zaqy Yes, and I
didn't get this on. I really am remiss for not catching this.
But during the live online feed is Savannah Guthrie called them
that I saw this catch on and other places. I thought you had
gotten it from somewhere else. I thought now that's not like you
got it. Got it when I heard Savannah Guthrie say it, and I
didn't get it. And I was really irked that I hadn't haven't have
a recorder running because it was live streamed and it didn't
snow way of backing it up or anything and when that happens,
and so she says zaqy I'm thinking what so called Zims
Zuck, what kind of news person are you when you do that? Isn't
there some kind of ethics or some kind of ethics rule against
doing that as a journo? Well, we've is catching a lot of these
guys saying weird stuff in Star Linus. Yeah. So I think
journalism is out of control. Well, it's also part of the
briefs.
I think it is part of the briefs.
But zaqy I mean, Zuck is the is the his word most? Yeah. Yeah.
That's the the the brief. In fact, I do want to mention
started off with this. I thought this was the I only found this
in Vogue magazine. They were right. And apparently it
appeared in 2010.
New Yorker profile.
It apparently around 2014, one of his pals has saved saved his
saved his DMS.
And they gave it to the New Yorker for this profile in 2010.
And it was about when he first started off the face bag. And
the conversation was over text text message went as follows.
Zuck after telling this, this pal of his that he's got he's
starting this thing up. He's got all these different people at
Harvard that are signed in, says yes, so if you ever need info
about anyone at Harvard, just ask. I have over 4000 emails,
pictures, addresses SMS, the friend says, what, how did you
manage that one? Zuck says people just submitted it. I
don't know why they quote unquote, trust me. Dumb
thoughts. This is you've never seen this. I've seen this
around. I haven't seen it before. And so this is going
around. In the in Vogue magazine, we presented it. And I
saw and I thought, ah, you know, this is kind of summarize the
whole thing to me. Yeah. And it has to be kind of taken.
That was I'm sure that's exactly what he was thinking. He was
saying look at what's going on is because it's all happening.
And after his face mash, you know, this was right. What do
you write for that or something I could probably get called in.
And
there wasn't one of these congressmen did ask about face
to face mass mash. And I liked the way he does. Zakhar berg is
very well briefed. Unfortunately, he was so well
briefed that they convinced him to say senator and congressman
and senator in Congress Well, he was also using that for thinking
time. Oh, obviously, yeah, that and his well at face book.
He's spending a lot of time but let's listen to the face face.
If people don't know about this, Zuckerberg
He does a very good job of continually refer continually
referring to it as a prank. When it wasn't a prank.
I was, yeah, sorry, going to bed when I was thinking it was more
like he could evolve that into hot or not hot. But yeah, that's
where I go into my questions. What was Facemash? And is it
still up and running? No, Congressman Facemash was a prank
website that I launched in college in my dorm room. Before
I started Facebook, there was a movie about this or said it was
about this, it was
clear truth. And the claim that Facemash was somehow connected
to the development of Facebook. It isn't it wasn't just the
timing was the same, right? just coincidental it was in 2003.
Okay.
Actually has nothing to do he put up pictures of two women and
decide which one was the better, more attractive of the two
congressmen that is an accurate description of the prank
website. And
just before we go any further, just some general observations
about baby and before we go any further, did you get the
spreadsheet from Eric? Yes. I didn't need you can forward it
to me, please. Okay.
All right.
Some general observations, the dudes in a suit. Let's just
start with that. Yes. And he's sitting up very straight. Well,
that's kind of his his deal. Yeah, he's a straight he's now
that's I mean, maybe can sit up and his straighter than this.
The dude is also clearly on the spectrum. We knew this. But the
dude yeah, he's dude. I would say the the general atmosphere
and by the way, the woman in the green behind him who was
signaling and laughing and smirking and very dry. Yes, she
was a scene stealer. Yeah, she must have been one of the
lawyers. Yeah, I'm kind of guessing. And yeah, just hang
out. She just kind of annoying. Very annoying. Very annoying.
Yes. And then
the whole kind of the chuckling the laughing it what is it with
people who have a lot of money? Because I think that's the only
thing really and the incredible wealth of Zuckerberg is is must
be the main thing. Which was achieved in less than 15 years.
Well, yeah, there's that.
Like what? Okay
I just found it in general. Just to hear everyone always remember
whenever you said something. Yeah. It's the situation where
the crowd is continuously looking for the laugh. The I
mean, the crowd is so jacked up. Yes, I noticed this and I've
seen it before and I think you're dead on is this got
something to do with you know, the it's some sickness and I
can't put my finger on why everybody's so giddy Dude, why
everybody's doing that. But they do that it's it's like
it's I think it's a throwback to tribal era or something when
somebody was like, one of these guys that had a lot of power in
soccer and has a lot of power. It could be and of course money
equals is one part of the power equation. Yes. Money and then
running this companies and other parts. I guess the same reason
I'm all giddy about the king. Really? Yeah, you are all jacked
up. Yeah, I am. Yeah, so I blame you.
Kick you gotta been fun. Which of the came might you never know
it? I doubt it by the way, because I used to be buddies
with that guy. Sure. Yeah, I used to actually have to send
money to him in taxes. You know, there's not exactly a friend in
that regard. Hey, man.
Ran out of my pocket. But otherwise Yeah, I could see we
could be buddies. I don't know about Zuckerberg sucky I think
be funny if he you got together with a king and then he goes you
say he says to you, he says, Is there any way you can introduce
me to Patricia?
John, hi.
You are the worst. You are the worst.
Okay.
Any more? Those observations? Yeah. That did you get the
picture of his notes?
Say no, I saw the article above but for some reason I got
distracted. I never looked at the picture of the notes. It's
it's pretty good. Put together by the people behind him. Yes,
it's in the show notes in a show notes.com But the only thing was
really interesting about it about those notes is under
GDPR the global data protection regulations which are now in
effect in the EU, which we'll talk about in a bit.
He is on his paper it said specifically do not say we are
already implementing GDPR
or, you know, because it came up somewhere and someone so what do
you think of the Europeans? Yeah, the Europeans get it
right. A couple times. Yeah. Everyone's laughing about it.
But he specifically had in his notes, do not say, Hey, we're
already doing all this stuff.
Then, you know, and he, he steered away from that kind of I
mean, he, you know what, above all, for the for the dudes age,
and this I think he did a pretty good job. Really? I think he did
a great job. Yeah, I'll say that. But it's still it's still
creepy. Creepy. Yeah, of course. But if it were me, first of all,
think of them about the Tourette's that will be going on
there. Oh, yeah. It'd be great
no one understand what I'm saying. Like we're too
distracted. You can't understand your hell's wrong with his he's
got just guilty take them away. Well, let's back it up a little
bit and do a story they can't just came out because he does a
California story and I want to play it so we know what's going
because all these companies have to deal with California. Yep,
pretty much. This is the new the new California law. Yes. Oh,
this is like the EU and the EU Blace because of the internet if
this goes if it goes into California yet the bay
California law so you you can't make a California version. No,
you can't make a European version. You do one thing so
okay, whatever you want us to do. We have to do it everywhere.
And let's play this Saki California Privacy Act. We have
some new details tonight about Facebook's about face. The
social media giant announced late today it no longer opposes
a ballot measure that would give consumers more privacy
protection. ABC Seven News reporter Katie Marzullo has the
story. Facebook has dropped its opposition to the California
Consumer Privacy Act. In a statement A company spokesperson
said we took this step in order to focus our efforts on
supporting reasonable privacy measures in California. We
talked with the President of the California NS for consumer
privacy via Skype, as seen late and they realize that consumers
are demanding privacy now. And I am hoping that some of these
other corporations follow suit. The Privacy Act would let people
see what personal information businesses are collecting and
allow consumers to tell corporations not to sell their
information. companies, including Google continue to
oppose the measure through the Committee to Protect California
jobs. In reaction to Facebook dropping out a committee
spokesperson said in a statement, it is unsurprising
that proponents of the so called California Consumer Privacy Act
are looking to distract from their deeply flawed initiative
that will do enormous harm to the California economy while not
protecting anyone's privacy. Professor Larry Sokolov said
this is a fascinating time, people are aware that they've
given something up and now they're trying to figure out
what they want back. Proponents of the Privacy Act are still
collecting signatures they'll learn in June as the measure
qualifies for the November ballot. In San Jose, Katie
Marzullo, ABC Seven News. Okay, let me get this straight. So
what you kind of said in your intro, is that because of the
EU, which as we know is run by the Germans. It's the German
right? The German Empire, the German Empire? We'll call it the
new German the new German. Yeah, yes. And JNG and Genji, the new
the new German Empire, and California is modeling itself
because of the companies they're after the new German Empire. Of
course,
they were right or wrong.
Can't believe I still have this clip.
But it doesn't get to the hook fast enough.
All right. Anyway, the Dead Kennedys knew a long time ago,
California. Iran is key in my back, Nancy. All right.
Now,
a couple of things about that clip. One is Google proves
itself to be the douchebags that they are Yeah. Not realize, I
hope they watch this because they're next in line. Oh, for
sure. They better be. And
this Committee to Protect California jobs or this,
whatever is called this acts of the Committee to Protect
California jobs. This is against this a Privacy Act, saying that
it'll kill jobs and it'll ruin the economy, it makes no sense.
It probably won't kill jobs, you'll probably add jobs because
you need more jobs to take care of these consumer complaints, or
they want to have their data and all the rest of it. You can get
your data off of Facebook, which Saki made a big point about and
his hearings. You can't do that with Google. Well, you know, the
differences and it's very interesting to be here in the in
the EU's at this moment, because they they just now are,
everyone's gonna have to start to comply with the global data
protect
Extra regulations. And to want to any website that I go to
actually, I did not sign into Google, specifically. So I could
tell you the experience, if I go to google.com, right now on a
browser that I have in the US first, I can't actually search
for anything, it says, I get a big pop up the middle of the
screen. Just before you continue to be consistent with data
protection laws, we're asking you to take a moment to review
key points of Google's privacy policy. This isn't about a
change we've made, it's just a chance to review some key
points. We need you to do this in order to continue to use
Google services Next. Click Next. A privacy reminder. And
then they did that. Wait a minute, they did that here. You
recently, same exact thing. Oh, yeah. Well, I hadn't had this
happen. Because I've been using this in the US and it hadn't
happened.
This is data we process when you use Google why we process it
combining data, then this whole thing, learn how Google uses
data to improve your experience, my favorite, improving my
experience. And then the how you decide and now it gets
complicated. Now there's more like that, that? If so then, in
order to now use Google services, I have to click I
agree. But I would have to go and look at all these different
links. And then tip, if you sign into Google account before
agreeing will remember your choice across all your signed in
devices and browsers.
Oh, I guess you can sign it, but you still can't use Google
search. And there's other options. And then a whole bunch
of other customizing settings. And it's just like I or I agree.
So you know what's gonna happen? Yeah. Oh, yeah. This is the same
problem. This is a problem that he used to put a stop to it. I
think the one thing that I came away with, because a lot of
people kept bringing it up, including the Lindsey Graham,
who who took the you'll on, I guess, printed it out. Yeah, I
saw a 15 point type or some. So it's really huge. And is the get
rid of this EULA? And the whole way it operates? Well, I think a
lot of the senators were focused on that very point. I think a
lot of them were at some of the congressmen but the congressmen
were a little more interesting, because they would bring stuff
up another thing that's got to change I should mention, is the
is this time limitation on these on these speakers? Yeah, it's
like I got I can only ask you a question. Now, what you got to
do it, I'm going to know you can you do anything about this
situation? That A, B, and C, they don't answer that because
they have time running out of time. So what did they do? They
just go on to harangue? How about this, they need to limit
the number of people who are questioning that was no problem.
Never gonna have what they what they can do is they can limit
them to one minute of questions.
But but their time is up by the answer. Wow. I know exactly. I
mean, unless you want to recover your time, reclaim your time.
Zuckerberg would always say that basic services people want to
share they upload their photos, but he would keep going back to
that. And then you know, a certain point. Oh, no, he had
filibustering. It's like, okay, we get it. That's not the data
we're talking about. We're talking about some very
different. Can I just play two clips. Play? Okay, this is
Blackburn.
Senator Blackburn.
Talking about censorship. First up, these are just the the
things that I that I thought were kind of decent questions.
And okay, with an answer that interests us. We've done one
hearing on algorithms at your communications and technology
subcommittee here. We're getting ready to do a second one on
algorithms. We're going to do one next week on prioritization.
So I'd like to ask you do you subjectively manipulate your
algorithms to prioritize or censor speech? Nice. Finally,
someone's asking some real questions. Congresswoman, we
don't think about what we're doing is censoring speech? I
think
that's a great answer. We don't think about what we're doing is
killing people. We think about it as human resource management.
types of content like terrorism, that I think that we all agree
we do not want to have 1000 Because that's that was just
talking points. It's literally on the picture, talk about
terrorism, and decide chat, sex trafficking, terrorism, that I
think that we all agree we do not want to have on our service.
So we build systems that can identify those and can remove
that content, and we're very proud of that work. Let me tell
you something right now. I dominance is not terrorism.
Now,
before I play the next clip, very disappointing to me,
because it's just accepted like it's the most normal thing in
the world. But we have AI tools. We have AI tools, our AI tools
Excuse me. The skills made Mr. Zuckerberg lucky
Can you explain what AI tools are and how they work and what
they do? Because all I hear is your AI tools aren't working and
you're hiring 20,000 people to be your AI tools.
This we cannot accept this bull crap. We have aI edge. You don't
have AI, you don't have it. Just no, they don't. Nobody does skip
logic is the best you have. Here's Blackburn with I think, a
perfect analogy to you. By the way. She's not the only one who
defended diamond and silk. I know, I know. But it but she was
without defending them. She was saying, hey, they're not
terrorism. So what is your problem? And when when I got
into? Well, of course, we're not what hate speech? Well, we have
AI tools for hate speech. I mean, this is a really deep
conversation that needs to take place out. I mean, these idiots
don't know anything about it. As far as I'm concerned, it's not
really real other than skip logic trees, you know, oh, you
have this little magical neuron and identified some Sure. But
hate speech. Are you kidding me? That, you know, this is the most
subjective thing in the world. But yet your AI tools are going
to do this without bias. I mean, it just doesn't exist, to my
knowledge. And I think I'm pretty knowledgeable about it.
Your tech press has failed you people. The tech Horni have only
been jacking off to the iPhones and never actually told you
about anything that's happening and Blackburn understands Mr.
Zuckerberg, I tell you, I think your cozy community is Dr. Mark
Jameson recently said is beginning to look a whole lot
like The Truman Show, where people's identities and
relationships are made available to people that they don't know.
See, this is a very good analogy. This, I think, helps
people understand if they've seen The Truman Show, which I
just recently we rewatched like, oh, wait a minute, wait a
minute. So it's like having a whole audience who can see
everything I'm doing the people I'm talking to the
relationships, except this audience is, I don't know,
advertisers, intelligence, who knows? And then that data is
crunched in a day's lunch. And they are fully on a one another.
Okay, I'm sorry, that's unacceptable. Blackburn. I mean,
I know what you're trying to do for your constituents and all
that. But that's as bad as saying glitch. Yes. And then the
data is crunched, okay.
To look a whole lot like the sorry, we wanted to fire
people's identities and relationships are made available
to people that they don't know. And then that data is crunched,
and it is used, and they are fully unaware of this. So I've
got to ask you, I think what we're getting to here is who
owns the virtual you, who owns your presence online? And I'd
like for you to comment, who do you think of an individual's
presence online? Who owns their virtual you? Is it you? Or is it
them? Congresswoman, I believe that everyone owns their own
content online. And that's the first line of our terms of
service. And he again, he's he's going straight to Yeah, you own
your own your content. Sure. But she asked specifically about the
crunched the data at the new from crunch bar. If you read it
says that. And we're just privacy rank as a corporate
value for Facebook. Congresswoman, giving people
control of their information while they want to set their
privacy is foundational to the whole service. It's not just a
kind of an add on feature or something we have to comply
with. Well, reality is when if you have a photo, if you just
think about this in your day to day life, I can't let you
filibuster right now.
Mine who's the benefits manager brought up a great question and
a meeting at her company last week. And she said you know,
health care, you've got HIPAA, you've got gramm leach Bliley,
you've got the Fair Credit Reporting Act. These are all
compliance documents for privacy for other sectors of the
industry. She was stunned, stunned, shocked. There are no
privacy documents that I to you all, y'all. And we've heard
people say that, you know, when you've said you're considering
maybe you need more regulation, what we think is we need for you
to look at new legislation. And you're hearing there'll be more
bills brought out in the next few weeks. But we have had a
bill, the browser act, and I'm certain that you're familiar
with this is bipartisan, and I thank Mr. Lipinski and Mr.
LANSON, Mr. Flores, for their good work on this legislation.
We've had it for over a year. And certainly we've been working
on this issue for about four years. And will you commit to
working with us to pass privacy legislation to pass the browser
act? Will you commit to doing that, Congresswoman, I'm not
directly familiar with the details of what you just said.
But I certainly think that regulation let's get familiar
with the details,
rules and regulations. This is suddenly 13
On pages Oh, show browse right, just 13 pages, so you can easily
become familiar with it. And we would appreciate your help. And
I gotta tell you, as Mr. Green just said, as you look at the EU
privacy policies, you're already doing much of that, if you're
doing everything you claim, because you will have to allow
consumers to control their data to change to erase it, you have
to give consumers opt in. And the browser X stands for
balancing the rights of web surfers equally and responsibly.
And it is 13 pages very simple. It basically says anything that
comes in and out of that browser, you should be able to
delete on the server end, which is almost a technical
impossibility, it seems, while not impossibility, but it just
knowing what comes out and is logged and stored and crunched.
You know, you just stop there and make a note.
The government itself has demanded that people keep these
logs. And all this now.
Well, you have to have the right to remove it the right to remove
it. But really the right to remove it doesn't mean it's
gonna get removed. Okay, because the government wants to keep
this information for the Homeland Security folks. And the
intelligence agencies. Sure. So why don't these congress people,
like get their act together and realize what's going on here
just got conflicting interests everywhere? Well, we also have a
responsibility. And I'm going to say that our responsibility is
to have a browser that doesn't fucking excuse me, that doesn't
blow all of our information out there. And it and this is why I
like the brave browser, because that's part of their idea, is
keep all that information in and only give certain that you at
least have control over what you're giving them. You do have
that control. And just because we accept Chrome, and all these
shitty browsers, but people use Google people use Chrome people
use well I use I use brave. I've been using brave more often now
that I recognize what how it handles Adblock. Ah, pretty
good. I have I normally was using Firefox, but now I'm using
brave a little more because with Firefox, the ad blockers which
are somewhat of a scam, because the ad blocking company, oh,
sorry. They're an ad company. Yes, and an advertising block as
a block ads and then you go to like certain publications, if
you're going down and like a news list to get some ideas.
There's a lot of these I'm actually most of the newspapers,
hey, hey, you're using an ad blocker. Hey, and then they you
know, they hit you have two options. Some like yeah, don't
block on this page for this moment. They Forbes just cut,
you know, you get rid of the ad blocker. We're not fooling
around with
Brave, so brave does is it somehow signals the publication
that, hey, now there's no ad blocker? No. And then it then it
takes the ad itself takes the ads and buries them someplace
that you never see. And it's probably does some sort of a
virtual ad blocking that it proxies it. Okay, that's what I
meant by proxies, the actual TCP into the into the bit bucket.
And so you just never see gone. Yeah. All I know is I don't see
the ads. And so the ads are gone. And it's like, but they
these guys think they're delivering the ads. So
they're getting, which is again, some soy, which is really
something scam ish about that. Because now the poor company
paying for these ads to be displayed. They're getting
gypped. This there's scamming and advertising. I'm shocked.
Shocked, I tell you buying Hey, guess what? I found out milk
goes bad if you leave it out. I'm shocked again, I tell you.
Yeah. Is that brave is brave is Yeah, but that's our
responsibility. It has issues. Of course, it takes a while to
build a good browser. But the the idea they have behind it is
we we will crunch the numbers in our own browser. And then we'll
make a set of what they call indications available to
companies and advertisers saying okay, I'll give you an
indication if I'm, you know, interested in in some kind of
sports related thing, but it would never be the raw data, it
would be our own version of what they use internally in their,
you know, their 1000 Points of Light of data points, you know,
white male old guy straight looks at you know, sailboats.
That's that's their data points, but we would have them that's
the thing all you need is the white you need a lot more but
having our own browser that you control what you're sending, and
this is the start where they already think they're serving
you ads and we're already effectively filtering them out
when for us.
Works
For me, yeah, watch that guy watch the CEO of the company get
picked up for kiddie porn. Oh, something Yes. They're not gonna
stand for this. Yeah, they're gonna have they're gonna have.
So he should he should get some some insurance?
Yes. Anyway back to the clips. Yeah, but yeah, but like she was
good. i There's another woman I didn't get her name I forgot it
but she's the one I think given the best hard time this is the
hostile Congresswoman and she just goes on and on. She just
goes off on him saying all kinds of crazy stuff. And every time
he tries to respond, she just plows through it because she
doesn't got time, again, a flaw in the way this works. You are
collecting personal information on people who do not even have
Facebook accounts. Isn't that right.
Congresswoman, I believe yes or no? Congresswoman? I'm not sure
that I don't think that that's what we're tracking. I don't
think that the average American really understands that today
something that fundamental, and that you're tracking, tracking
everyone's online activities, their searches, you can track
what people buy, correct.
Congressman,
you're collecting that data what people purchase online.
If they share it with us, but Congress has a button. So it's
it's it's gathering Facebook has the application. In fact, you
patented applications to do just that. Isn't that correct? To
collect? I don't think any of those buttons share transaction
data. You watch where we go. Senator Durbin had a I had a
funny question yesterday about where you're staying. And you
didn't want to share that. But you Facebook also gathers that
data about where we travel. Isn't that correct?
Congresswoman, everyone has control over how that works. And
it goes on. But she's just she did bring up the point I thought
I stopped. Stop. I just want to say something that is not true.
Because I have location sharing turned off. I went to college
station somehow that showed up on one of my places visited
which I had almost no data once in a while this one data point.
And I guess they're getting it from Wi Fi or wherever. But it's
not true that I have the capability to turn that off lie.
Yeah, that was most of this was a lie. That was a lie. And you
you actually bitched about this already.
And she does point out in a bunch of people, because I said,
I'm not a Facebook guy, you know me, here's me. I'm not a
Facebook user. Perfect. You're perfect for Congress. And so I
got two or three notes from some high end, Guy dudes named Ben
and said, Hey, and one guy explains to you, right, you're
not you're being tracked any way they can, if you ever touch the
site, you're you're just coded with some hash code, they don't
have your name. If they can't, you're never put it in their
Canvas profiling. And so that's what she was bitching about. She
says people that aren't even Facebook users are being tracked
by you douchebags. Why didn't she say it like that? I don't
know. She should have said like, you know what it is? She was
implying it? No, but here's the problem. Most of these jokes,
they have people who work for them who understand and have
questions, but these people don't know what they're asking.
They're just reading a script problem. And this is a problem.
I will I don't want to change the subject. With a change,
though, for a split second. This is the problem with modern
journalism. With Jos. What you just said, is exactly the way a
journalist is now taught to operate. In the olden days,
journalists were all specialists. There was a guy
given the beat Reaper, you know, he's a he's a police reporter.
And he actually hung out with the cops. And did you learn his
job? Before he became city desk editor, but he was like, a guy
who is learning he was maybe was a cop before? Or, in my case,
you know, I knew enough about computers, I could write about
computers. Modern journalists, say no, you don't need to know
anything. You just need to know how to ask questions. And you
should be and then if you ask enough questions, you'll figure
out the story. And so everyone should be neutral. And I've
always found that to be just this is the reason that in the
government you want to for example, I keep using myself as
an example I worked at Union oil and and I went to work for the
government as an air pollution inspector in refineries. And it
wasn't because I was corrupted by their oil refiners. It's
because I actually knew how refinery operated as opposed to
some dumb guy because he doesn't know anything. And he's supposed
to do the same job he can't do it. This the same thing with
reporters and it's the same thing with Congress people Yeah,
these days. You have to be able to use social nets. You have to
know something I don't know the social nets and you have to look
hot
Come on. Yeah, well, that's all it really takes but it's doesn't
work is that which is the only reason you listen to the no
agenda show is because we have a
broad range of experiences. And we both and we're both
technically oriented. So we can spot this sort of thing. But if
we were just the two guys on the street, and we have white
privilege, the same material, we have white privilege, we're
perfect. We have white privilege on top of it, which is really
good to have.
Anyway, I'm sorry, but doing that was a little aside, but I
think people should always realize that, that that we have
a problem in government because of what Adam just said. They
don't know what to
do about it and worse, the people who actually seem to
understand that who wrote the questions, aren't there for the
follow up, because then when Zuck Zaki, when he goes into his
people want to come to Facebook to share and make connections,
then they they say, well, that's not the answer. I don't know
what I'm asking.
Just don't that they should be just like they have some of
these guys give testimony before Congress with their lawyer
whispering in their ear. Yeah, they should have those people
who are sitting right next to him whispering in their ear, or
use an IFBB For God's sake, just what's wrong with that, hey, get
some comps go into people's actual legal use. You get some
comps, going. Some comps, comps, comps on that stuff. Use your
pager.
There yet what's your next one?
Well, no, I have I don't have oh, yeah, I do have I have to
bloom at the best one to only get ahead as Actaea was
Blumenthal night, because all he did was he just realized that
there was a legal violation of an FTC
order.
Facebook was violating over and over what do they call it? Part
of it here? This is the what does it call a convention on a
convention? What's the name of the document? I can't remember.
But once they these guys, and I didn't realize this, by the way,
when the when the guys who did the, the material that went to
eventually went to the Analytica company. They were they had
their own and Blumenthal had it. They had their own EULA, which
gave them two rights to resell this as many times as they
wanted to. Well, I'll tell you, you know, Christmas years
he went and he checked and his some of his face bag apps that
he wrote before 2015 still work they still sucking data and data
from your friends. Is it still on?
Oh, tell him I need a mailing list. The show needs a mailing
list
maybe he still listens I don't know he's pretty dementia
without as pre dementia be? My Yeah, well, it does mean you
can't get us a mailing list. The guy who had the podcast has
dementia be Now you tell me.
Let's play the Blumenthal clip. Then you'll by the way, you have
to cut this off. For some reason. When I extracted this, I
took the whole clip down 10 minutes worth which is not all
Blumenthal. So you have to stop it when I say so. It looks like
only 11 seconds, John?
Or is it? 11 minutes?
It's 10 minutes and 11 seconds. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, my counters
obfuscated. Sorry, Senator, it certainly appears that we should
have been aware that this app developer submitted a term that
was in conflict with the rules of the platform. Well, what
happened here
was in effect, willful blindness, it was heedless and
reckless, which in fact, amounted to a violation of the
FTC consent decree. Would you agree? Consent Decree? There it
is. Senator. My understanding is that is not that this was a
violation of the consent decree. But as I've said a number of
times today, I think we need to take a broader view of our
responsibility around privacy than just what is mandated in
the current law. Here is my reservation, Mr. Zuckerberg, and
I apologize for interrupting you, but my time is limited.
We've seen the apology tours before you hear from him, we're
have refused to acknowledge even an ethical obligation to have
reported this violation of the FTC consent decree.
And we have
letters we've had contacts with Facebook employees. And I'm
going to submit a letter for the record from Sandy para keyless
with your permission.
That indicates not only a lack of resources, but lack of
attention to privacy. And so my
reservation about your testimony today is that I don't see how
you can change your business model. Unless there are specific
rules of the road your business model is to monetize user
information to maximize profit over privacy. And unless there
are specific rules and requirements enforced by an
outside agency, I have noticed
surance that these kinds of vague commitments are going to
produce action. So I want to ask you a couple of very specific
questions. And they are based on legislation that I've authored
the my data act, legislation that Senator Markey is
introducing today, the consent Act, which I'm joining.
Don't you agree that companies ought to be required to provide
users with clear plain information about how their data
will be used, and specific ability to consent to the use of
that information? And what I think is interesting, he's
asking for something that I don't think is possible, because
it's really only your imagination. That is the
limitation of what can be done with the amount of data that is
tracked, right down to accelerometer, you know, how
you're holding the phone is just You mean to tell people this is
what we're doing with it, you might as well just say,
we can do anything. It's once we get our AI tools,
then the sky's the limit.
You can no one so much. You know, it just basically
anything, especially with movement, location, proximity.
Yeah. So it's not exactly fair. I know. It's a goldmine.
Senator, I do generally agree with with what you're saying.
And I laid that out earlier, when I talked about what would
you agree to an opt in as opposed to an opt out?
Senator, I think that that certainly makes sense to discuss
and I think the details around this matter a lot, which I agree
that users should be able to access all of their information,
Senator, yes, of course, wrong question information that you
collect as a result of purchases from data brokers, as well as
track Oh, yeah, that was good. Senator, we have already a
download your information tool just on the data brokers. I
don't know if it's in this in Blumenthal's thing, but I have
to correct myself. They weren't selling to the two. What's the
FICO company name? Again, I keep forgetting it with a V.
What? Oh, yeah.
Veritas or something? Yeah, you're some very TOS is exactly
the opposite of what they are. Yeah, some V company. Not very
sign now.
But he should have a big or you should have a note and have it
up because you keep I know, it's odd. Okay, well, anyway, he was
he was buying from them. Any any notes in that answer? I know if
it's in this bit, that that is standard add practice. And of
course it is because that's where your data goes, when you
sign up for protection. When you sign up for, you know, LifeLock
I'm pretty sure they do it too. They sell your aggregate data,
the all these credit companies as well. They sell it to the
advertisers. So they know what you're buying. When you're
buying it. You're in the Uber, what do you do it, they know,
the credit card, guys, they've got the goldmine, and they're
selling it and face bag is importing that or was importing
it. There you go. That allows people Experian see v company,
to see and to take out all of the information that Facebook
that they've put into Facebook or that Facebook knows about
them. So yes, I agree with that we already have that. I have a
number of other specific requests. Was it Victoria's
Secret you agree to support as part of legislation? I think
legislation is necessary. The rules of the road have to be the
result of congressional action. We have.
Facebook has participated recently in the fight against
scourge, Scourge of sex trafficking. And the bill that
we've just finished it will be signed into law tomorrow, after
the stop exploiting Sex Trafficking Act was the result
of our cooperation. I hope that we can cooperate on this kind of
measure as well. Senator, I look forward to having my team work
with you on this. Thank you. Senator Blumenthal. Senator
Cruz. My teamwork, this good to this cruise coming up? Yeah, I
just wanted to say one other thing. And then there wasn't
really clippable because it came in multiple times throughout
what I saw. Yeah. Okay. So you ban an account? What's to say
that that account, you know, that the corporate entity, you
know, just creates an account another account now we banned
the corporate entity, okay. So what if someone lies and creates
an account under you know, on the on the down low on the Q t,
if you don't know it, but they're still the same guy and
they've created the account. Now. Now we're pretty sure
that's not happening. At what point? Can we all just agree
that that's the same thing? How do you know about what's going
on in Myanmar? Ladies and gentlemen, they're reading your
messages. They're scanning everything to make sure that
you're not
At some illegal guy who was already banned from the system,
they're reading your messages. They're reading it, all of it,
all of it with their AI tools, but people are reading it, you
can get it. I think they have AI to flag things that are
suspicious. Oh, yeah, just like the CIA, they probably hire some
ex NSA guys who do that for a living. Yes. But you know, let's
just be honest. He didn't say it. And the the Congressman's
congressmen and women and the senators were too stupid to ask.
But that's really what's going on. And they admitted, it's not
like it's a secret. But let's just put context around when
they read your messages. It's not just to give you ads, it's
just make sure they know they can ban you. Yeah, they can,
right. Now, the other thing that's kind of interesting is
this idea that opt in this opt in opt out thing is, is a is a
red herring. And it always has been and I'll give you the
example of how that why I think this is because all they have to
do is hound you it's like the EULA. You can't use the thing,
let's just check the box. You can't use this app unless you
agree to this. You can't you know is this is that you'll
think it all boils down to that now or the old trick or the
trickery which you run into all the time. We have to update your
Flash Player for Adobe. So you do that? And oh, by the way,
would you like a copy of McAfee.
And it says check the boxes checked as you check it to get
rid of and have and a free a free browser toolbar. So they
they opt you and so you can opt they can opt you in so it looks
like yeah, you opted in. You saw the screen, it showed you that
you check the box. Yeah. And you of course you have to uncheck
the box, which is you know, it's an inconvenience, to say the
least, especially if you're in a hurry and you forget ah, and
it's happened to me a couple of times where you get clicked, you
don't notice the law, then you got to stop the whole process
where they don't load McAfee on your machine.
It this whole thing the whole business is just built on scams.
And I encourage everyone to look at the South Park episode called
I sent a pod. It is was done years ago and it is about
exactly this problem. It is extremely well done. And you
will understand.
So now Ted Cruz comes up and he brings he also brings up honey
and Spicer what are those two women's names? I can't remember
if sugar and spice. I sent a pad spice and lemon
spices lamb diamond and spice diamond spice diamond girl. Cruz
really lays into the guy it because mostly for political
reasons. And again, never let him say much. Because these time
my time is running out. I reclaim my time diamond and
diamond. Diamond
man.
It's the short term memory that goes first people. So you said
anyway school you want to play this out? Yeah.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Zuckerberg, welcome. Thank you
for being here. Mr. Zuckerberg, does Facebook consider itself a
neutral public forum?
Senator, we consider ourselves to be a platform for all ideas.
Let me ask the question again. Does Facebook consider itself to
be a neutral public forum and representatives of your company
have given conflicting answers on this? Are you a first limit
speaker expressing your views? Are you a neutral public forum
allowing everyone to speak?
Senator, here's how we think about this. I don't believe that
nice nice performative by the way, that's one of the better
performative. Here's the way we think about this. Oh, beautiful
tent that clearly we do not allow, right hate speech,
terrorist content,
nudity, anything that makes people feel unsafe in the
community. Oh, some nudity. From that perspective, that's why we
generally try to refer to what we do as a platform for all
right, just because the time is constrained. It's just a simple
question. The predicate for Section 230 immunity under the
CBT CDA is that you are a neutral public forum. Do you
consider yourself a neutral public forum? Are you engaged in
political speech? Which is your right under the First Amendment?
Well, Senator, our goal is certainly not to engage in
political speech. I'm not that familiar with the specific legal
language of the law that you that you speak to. So I would
need to follow up with you on that. Okay. Hold on, is it first
of all, I know a lot about section 230. Because we've just
discussed this so much over the years, and crews to say a
neutral public forum has nothing to do with what is in the law.
And the first, like First Amendment speaker expressing
your views all this is not in Section 230. Section 230 is
important. Important, because that's what really allowed the
intent to grow the way it is, but it really is about
editorializing versus removing stuff.
And for then Zuckerberg to say, Oh, I'm unfamiliar with what
you're talking about. That's the whole reason his business
exists. So this is bull crap, all of it. I'm just trying to
lay out how broadly I think about this Mr. Zuckerberg, I
will say there are a great many Americans who I think are deeply
concerned that Facebook and other tech companies are engaged
in a pervasive pattern of bias and political censorship. There
have been numerous instances with Facebook. In May of 2016,
Gizmodo reported that Facebook had purposely and routinely
suppressed conservative stories from trending news, including
stories about CPAC, including stories about Mitt Romney,
including stories about the Lois Lerner IRS scandal, including
stories about Glenn Beck, I'd forgotten all this good stuff.
Actually. It was kind of nice to have the summary from the
dimension a side and
he's not under oath, is he?
Yeah, of course he is. I don't think he was under the to get
sworn in truth, whole truth. Nothing but Well, I didn't see
it. I don't. I didn't see that. I saw the beginning on C span.
wishing he just wandered up there for all room says no.
Not under oath. So then you can say whatever you want, right?
That is what we're witnessing. In addition to that Facebook has
initially shut down the Chick fil A Appreciation Day pay. By
the way I agree with that one just shut it down has blocked a
post of Fox News reporter has blocked over two dozen Catholic
pages. As blocked Christina Curry's sideboob, and most
recently blocked Trump supporters diamond and silks
page, with 1.2 million Facebook followers after determining
their content and brand were, quote, unsafe to the community.
To a great many Americans that appears to be a pervasive
pattern of political bias. Do you agree with that assessment?
We're not from now on we're gonna call them Raven and silk.
I think it's better. Senator, let me say a few things about
this. First, I understand where that concern is coming from
because Facebook in the tech industry, or located in Silicon
Valley, which is an extremely left leaning place. Nice. And
this is actually a concern that I have and that I try to root
out the company is making sure that we don't have any bias in
the work that we do. And I think it is a fair concern that that
people would would wonder about romance this notion. Are you
aware of any ad or page that has been taken down from Planned
Parenthood?
Senator?
Let me just move on.
Sorry, about moveon.org. I'm not specifically aware of any
democratic candidate for office. I'm not specifically aware every
night. I'm not I'm not sure. In your testimony, you say that you
have 15 to 20,000 people working on security and Content Review.
Do you know the political orientation of those 15 to
20,000 people engaged in Content Review? They're awesome. No,
Senator, we do not generally ask people about their political
orientation when they're joining us. Hold on. Here's where
Zuckerberg was, you know, very well prime. But he was he wasn't
ready for that it wasn't ready for this. Because he had a gym.
Because what crews did was toss him a softball and what would
what Zuckerberg could could have said zaqy could have said was
I'm sorry, Senator, but it's against the law in the state of
California to ask somebody Oh, yeah, orientation is when we
hire them buy a nice one. And he would assume that would have
short circuited crews. No, no, no, no, no better. Better yet.
Senator Cruz? Senator, I'm not sure I'm not aware of all the
laws in Texas. But in California, he that's how you do
it. Without would it be even better? You're right. That would
have been just nice. But just off the top he he doesn't either
know this or spectrum broad spectrum spectrum. But he could
have nailed crews right there. But no, no, he just gets
continually bullied by crews that what it was fun to watch.
Because I think you know, Cruz was on a roll here. Yeah, he
even said he was it was funny. So as CEO, have you ever made
hiring or firing decisions based on political positions or what
candidates they support it? No.
Why was Palmer Luckey fired? That was what a what a trap?
What a trap. And here comes one of those crowd got falling
moments that is a specific matter. That seems like it would
be inappropriate. He just made a specific representation that you
didn't make decisions based on political views. Well, I can
commit that it was not because of a political view.
Do you know of those 15 to 20,000 people engaged in content
review how many if any
Any have ever supported financially a Republican
candidate for office?
Senator, I do not know that. Your testimony says it is not
enough that we just connect people, we have to make sure
those connections are positive. It says we have to make sure
people aren't using their voice to hurt people or spread
misinformation. We have a responsibility not just to build
tools to make sure those tools are used. Mr. Zuckerberg, do you
feel it's your responsibility to assess users whether they are
good and positive connections or ones that those 15 to 20,000
people deem unacceptable or deplorable?
Senator, you're asking me personally nice face nice one
are a number of Yes. He slipped into Word deplorable, which is a
which is a buzz word. Yeah. Yeah. It was well done, meaning
Trump supporter. Yeah. Well done. Well, the things that we
would all agree are clearly bad. foreign interference in our
elections, terrorism, self harm, censorship? Oh, well, I think
that you would probably agree that we should remove terrorist
propaganda from the service. So that I agree, I think is clearly
bad activity that we want to get down. And we're generally proud
Do you want to get down bound? Get down on it out of how well
we do with that. Now, what I can say, and I do want to get this
in before the end here is that I am, I'm very committed to making
sure that Facebook is a platform for all ideas. That is a very
important founding principle of what we do. We're proud of the
discourse and the different ideas that people can share on
the service. And that is something that as long as I'm
running the company I'm going to be committed to making sure is
the case. Thank you. Thank you, Senator Cruz. Do you want to
break now?
We want to keep going. Sure. I mean, that was that was pretty
good.
You can kill it. And with that, I think we're done.
Well, I do have one more local rap, which is the local rap of
the Zuckerberg thing and let's play that and then we'll then
we're done.
Books. Mark Zuckerberg agreed with lawmakers today that
regulation of his industry is inevitable, as he faced harsh
questions by lawmakers during brown to have a hearing on
Capitol Hill. We didn't take a broad enough view of our
responsibility. And that was a big mistake. And it was my
mistake. And I'm sorry, if you've messaged anybody this
week, would you share with us the names of the people you've
messaged?
Senator, no, I would probably not choose to do that publicly
here. I think that might be what this is all about.
The questioning follows the Cambridge analytical scandal
that expose the data of up to 87 million Facebook users,
Zuckerberg revealed that his own data was sold. Okay, sure. It
was now just a couple things to wrap it up that remember
one is I could not find this clip of producer send me the
time code on the C span so I just could not find it but
apparently at one point zaqy This asked about intelligence
agencies know
something about face bag and he's answer is like Senator I
cannot see why any intelligence it no like, crap. I gotta find
this clip. Someone needs to find it for me, because the way it
sound that is like he stuttered, including himself as an
intelligence agency.
That clip I would like because that would be clip of the day if
we could find that. The okay if someone understood it properly.
There was another little oopsie from it may show up in the in
the database at C span once this thing is Yeah, so we'll make a
clip out of it problems that transcript is done. This is the
thing is what was this on? MSNBC, Mike Haflinger. He's the
former face back Global Business Marketing head? Well, I think it
is and what happens when you're trying to innovate, especially
at this scale. What happens is you have to have an almost
ridiculous amount of optimism to get up in the morning and build
the world something that didn't exist before or certainly didn't
exist before at this scale. And then when you do that, you begin
to discover that to be truly successful in the long term. You
also have to be very vigilant and I think what we've seen and
I think we've heard it now from Mark very clearly for a few
weeks is that there's been an enormous amount of invasion
innovation and I think that's undeniable but not
invasion. Good one the truth always wants to come out doesn't
it?
Now, the in finalizing from my end the I'm I was surprised that
my statement you can't monetize the network is actually more
true than I realized that myself I thought it was only What does
really hard to do this with advertising. And just if you're
really not contributing to the value network, like we have here
had no agenda. You can't just sit on the sidelines and have
some infrastructure and scoop everything up. It just what it's
it's some magical formula. It's like the Fibonacci of the
internet.
If you can't monetize it, and it no matter what you try, okay,
I'll try by by really the most truly Truman esque
method. Even that is not working because the people won't stand
for it. Eventually, I think that face bag will lose, you just
can't monetize it.
I was I don't have a sound effect for laughing.
By
I think they've done a fine job of monetizing it already. It's
going to end. I don't think so. Now, I don't think people Yeah,
people are gonna be all kinds of Well, yeah, unless there's
something that else that comes on nothing has ever ended.
Unless something came along that did it better? Well, I'm seeing
I'm seeing a lot of GoFundMe projects, Kickstarter projects,
for all kinds of devices that really are trying to help avoid,
you know, avoid the tracking. You know, Mastodon, I think
still has a future. It wouldn't take much. You know, it would
just take the same kind of, you know, divided the viral news. It
would take much and what the much is celebrities,
celebrities, or celebrities are making a huge difference. But
the much really is people actually caring. Well, most
people don't care about their own privacy. They far as they're
concerned by not doing anything wrong. So they should they
should they should stay on on Facebook. That's well, oh, and
by the way, I figured out who's going to be on the database, the
department Homeland Security journaux database list and
influencers? Yeah, it's obvious. Everybody who's verified on
Twitter.
Boom. Yeah, well, of course, they're doing they're doing it
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And you know, answers. Yeah. Well, you said
the no agenda shows listed
well, because you you're verified now,
you know, that they could know that I'm verified and have
anything to do with the show these lists, they put them
together just on Google who wouldn't have a podcasting
awards? These are probably the influencers let's just put them
on the list.
Sounds like the government to me. It sounds very just like the
government and that doesn't mean that what it means the bad news
is it means you're not going to get a new listeners. Wow. Okay,
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have the location or any details yet. So it'll be sent out email
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far. I have not gotten my head around doing a meet up just yet.
It's a it's a bit so it takes a little I've been on cloud nine
you know if it's just living the life of Riley there with the
King and Queen drinking cheap wine.
And that's right everybody makes sure you let everybody know
we're all over the world and propagate formula is this. We go
out we get people in the mouth
you'll be very happy to hear this extremely disturbing
report. John, you were the one that brought our attention to
poop particles
in the bathroom specifically on mobile phones, foams, phones.
Remember that? Well, the report came out.
And I'm sure this is this could be the paper towel company who's
who's making this putting the story out there by a bet
bathroom hand dryers as it turns out, actually suck in the poop
particles that blow it throughout the entire place and
onto your hand and poop just standing right there. Especially
if it's a Dyson
Yeah, you breathe and poop you breathe and poop people.
Man, you know, you know this is somebody finally hired a PR you
know we're debt your kid. They're killing us here. In
sales of our rolls of tape. What are we gonna do? We got to get
people off of the blowers.
Yeah, I know. Poop.
Poop particles. That's almost like the guy doing the the
book.com but a big bottle book. It's like, I know who particles.
That's right. It's gotta be that it's got to be a native app that
must have started out that way. But probably just a promotion. I
don't think they would pay to get these things run. You could
just once you come up with a story like that you can launch
the application anyone who's not going to run that? Let me just
see who did the survey. Link check. This is where this is
deconstruction. This is worth doing it. Let me say I've man
Boing Boing has a great photo of when this really horrible ALB
the paint is all moldy. Oh my god. Bobby sent that out with
the press release. Oh, yeah. Must be here. A new study in
applied and environmental microbiology. Woohoo. Let's take
a look at this. I can't believe I didn't do this. And this may
be show prep for for Sunday. Let me see. What is this
publication? This is from the American Society for
Microbiology.
That sounds legit. Oh, anything can sound legit. We can do that.
The no agenda Consulting Group, the American Society for
Microbiology. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay, well, we'll get up to
let me see you then have recommendations don't they have
to? You have to read the whole thing to get there. See oldest
is the oldest and largest single life sciences membership
organization in the world. membership has grown from 59
Scientists in 1899 to more than 39,000 members.
So it's a good they got went to the right group. It sure seems
like it here department of the participants or MEC affiliations
Rutgers and the State University of New Jersey for Kimberly
Clark.
Maybe some Johnson and Johnson MBC.
Make paper products. Crown Zellerbach does another one to
look for now. Okay, we'll work on it. Yeah. Nail it. It's going
to be easy. Yeah. It starts off with hot air hand dryers
multiple men's and women's bathrooms and three basic
science research areas in the academic health center were
screened for their deposition on plates of told
We'll back plates chon plates of total bacteria. What does that
mean? Well, they put some petri dishes out with some I thought
like our a gar and that's all what happened not the Kings
lunch was bad here they have plates of total bacteria, some
of which were identified in a canal missin resistant, Bacillus
subtilis strain spores which are produced in large amounts in one
basic science research laboratory plates exposed to
hand dryer air for 30 seconds. Average 18 to 16 colonies per
plate.
But interior hand dryer nozzle surfaces had minimal bacteria
levels. Ah, okay. So it really is the it really is the blower.
This is great.
Yeah, this technology for this new Professor Ted, he was right.
Instant technology is only going to kill us.
So have you written to tennis even get an interview? Man? I
don't think he's allowed to think he can do written
interviews. But I'm sure he'll that's bull crap. He should be
able to do interviews, and I'm sure he doesn't care. Start
working on it. Well, he might care because he knows that
you're a big fan.
We have the love affair. kindling. It's been a while but
we know we can always rely on the old horn dog, Matt Lee. I
mean, he's just he's always good. He's always good.
He's a flirt. He's a flirt. And Heather is worth flirting with
the girl. Yeah.
He's got that he's got a pretty molest Lois voice good flirt
voice Heather had Heather's she's gotta watch it her. You
know, I should if we're going to do this now entering
executive mode. Yes. We're entering executive mode ladies
and gentlemen. Just so you know.
Yeah. Good. Go for that. We actually get we got another one
here from someone else.
During executive mode.
Executive mood. Yes. You know, should have an MBA you guys did
that. Do an exit. We have an exit. Ha good. Haha. That's
standing by. Yes. That's of course sir. Chris, of course, he
has an exit. We're in the executive mode.
She's got to watch her resting bitchface which is a term I
didn't come up with women call it this. And when she's unhappy
with what's going on, and her mouth starts to droop and it is
really doesn't mean it's not attractive. She has she has a
nice smile. And she has a very jolly she had jolly face. Don't
you think? She's pretty issued a pixie like, demeanor? Our head
is kind of a square head. She looks like Betty Boop. Yeah,
okay. Yeah, that's that. Yeah. Otherwise very simple. But she
was so happy but she started off her press briefing the other
day. Oh, I think we can exit now entering. Oh, no, no, no, I did
exit. Damnit. Where are we exiting? I think we're still
gonna stay in the mode. Okay. I'm sorry. Yeah. What am I
thinking? Let's stay in the mode. Are you talking about him
crazy. He's still talking about her. Yeah, I forgot. Okay, so
she would she he flirted with her. She's not. We're getting to
the flirting is coming. But first, she walks in. She's back
from vacation. She's super happy. Then she clunks her book
down on the table. And what are we always bitching about in
these in this book is the biggest book in the world and
world history. huge, giant voluminous book.
Yeah, I'm gonna replay that for you because she she plops the
book down.
Dammit. Sorry, I'm failing. Here we go. Hi. Good afternoon. Nice
to see you all. Do you notice anything different?
Yeah, the book bigger little book. I went on vacation and the
book went on a diet. Her book was shrunk the book. Yeah, the
book was really thin. I mean, you know, the binders that they
are? Maybe somebody listens to our show. Maybe Heather listens
to our show. Oh, dammit. The boys didn't like my outfit.
Crap. What am I the book size? It's about my book. Okay, I did
something about you. I would enjoy that. So we'll see how
this works today.
Quality has replaced quantity. Oh, there's Matt. Quality has
replaced quantity Heather. Hmm. The he's so smooth.
We got to drink beer with this guy. Today.
Quality has replaced quantity. I don't know about that. It's kind
of like when my kids go to school and I use that
opportunity to clean their rooms and they don't notice. That's
exactly what I did. The past week.
Oh, yes. So nice. Here is now this what happened here and Matt
kind of gets into it with her. There was a reporter was killed
by the Israeli Defense Forces and there's a lot of crap going
on now.
Look at their border wall. If you haven't followed it, um,
this reporter who was wearing a press Flak Jacket, apparently,
he was from Hamas. And and they shot him. And so you have Saeed
and and he asked a question like, you know what happened
here? And you know, how can you guys have recognized this and
how come you're not talking about it? How come it's Yeah.
And she's like, Oh, well, you know, yes, I'm aware of that
report being very sketchy about it. But Matt's ready to pounce.
I'm sorry. You said you're aware of reports that a journalist was
killed. You haven't been able to confirm it. But the guy was
buried over the weekend at a funeral that was quite, you
know, it was attended by a lot of people. And I'm aware of
that. Yes. But not just over reports. I mean, you know, that
this guy was described? Yes. And I think you might know a little
bit more, maybe, maybe not, but because this the company that he
worked for that he co founded, and CO owned, had last month,
gotten been vetted and was approved for a grant from USA ID
now
did kill. First of all, can you say that? That is true? That
That is correct. My understanding is that he was
vetted, according to US government guidelines. But I
don't have anything more for you on that. Okay. So would
the US government guidelines would allow for a member of
Hamas to get off? I don't know the specifics of the case. I've
not been involved in any of that. But if I get anything for
you on that. Israeli Defense Minister has said that although
he was wearing a bulletproof vest with a WordPress clearly
bladed on it, he was a member of Hamas, a member of Hamas armed
wing, and it was the equivalent rank of captain and that he was
disguising himself as a journalist. And I want to know,
I mean, if he was in fact vetted and approved by USA ID for for a
US taxpayer grant. Either the USA ID vetting process is not
very good. Or it allows for the for a potential possible Hamas
militants to get us funding or the Israeli Defense Minister is
wrong. All I can say is that we're looking into that. Well.
What do you not know he has now? Yeah, it was a spook or Birdman.
How did that happen? That seemed I don't know. But I think Matt
nailed something. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He laid the trap. These.
By the way. I haven't seen this on the WaPo. Whopper. Whopper
Whopper Whopper. Now, why would you? I'm just a podcaster.
Now it's like the guy was Hamas captain, he somehow got a US a
idea American taxpayer grant to be a journalist in the field or
something. And the Israeli said apparently had enough on this
guy. They knew who he was. He was a captain. And they decided
to gun him down. I guess from from from 1200 feet. Even though
that's a sniper, you can do that. 12
point is doing the press had been told you're safe up to 500
feet.
Anything you know, close to them? Don't anybody close and
500 feet is in trouble. So he was back, you know, 1200 feet.
So yeah, they picked them off. Obviously.
Yeah.
As its send, send even over there to shoot him.
So she's acting dumb about this. Yeah. shot shot in the field.
Yeah. And that was the biggest credentials. Yeah, this is a big
press thing. The press, you know, that's one of their own.
Ma. It's one of their own. So what else not one of their own
if you consider that half the presses, spooks. Yeah. They
that's why they all went to the funeral, I guess. But then
Heather, just that a little announcement and it caught my
ear. So great to see you all again. Hope you are having a
terrific day. A couple of announcements to bring you
first. As many of you know, the Qatari emir is in Washington
today. We warmly welcome him His Highness Qatari emir Al Thani to
the United States. Now, isn't this interesting. And this is
where we will start to transition to Syria. For to have
the Qatari emir in Washington speaking with the President, the
United States at the very moment, the Qatar, Saudi Arabia,
Jordan, Turkey, are all playing shenanigans for their pipeline
because that's what it is. I've really done my checking on this.
You know, Trump clearly knows more than he's letting on. And
if he's complicit, you know, that's, that's what he should be
impeached for. If he actually is going to take this crazy ass
bait.
But to have the Qatari emir in DC, I thought was perfect timing
and kind of confirms that there's something going on V
or being told the President met with Emir a short while ago and
Acting Secretary Sullivan will meet with him this afternoon.
Qatar is a highly valued strategic partner to the United
States and also a friend. You may recall that we held the
inaugural us Qatar strategic dialogue here at the State
Department on January the 30th, during which we collaborated on
defense, counterterrorism, human rights, trade, aviation and also
investment. We're building upon that dialogue and look forward
to discussing these and other important issues of bilateral
cooperation during the years visit. Since the dialogue and
building on our July 2017 counterterrorism MOU, Qatar has
continued to advance its counterterrorism and counter
terror financing efforts. Yeah, sure. I don't know if you have
any clips on Syria, but I have I'd like to dive in a little
bit.
I have a few. Let's see what we got. I have I just go back
before.
Before the more recent
phony baloney action in Syria. This is a pre prequel to that
this is before any of this happened. This was from a couple
of days before and I just carried this. I haven't I was
wanting to bring it up before I never did this. Is this stuck in
Syria clip?
Yes, got it.
Mission accomplished as the war drags on the president telling
the Pentagon to finish the battle. Even though the military
argues ISIS is still a threat. According to two US officials, a
contentious national security meeting after the president
declared Tuesday, I want to get out I want to bring our troops
back home, even as his top commander for the region was
saying it is too soon. The hard part I think is in front of us.
And that is stabilizing these areas, consolidating our gains
tonight military advisors scrambling to prevent the
president from ceding the battlefield to Russia and Iran,
whose leaders were meeting on Syria today. Nothing could be
more attractive, certainly to the Iranian Revolutionary Guards
than they had the president united states saying we're on
the verge of pulling out you own the country. To US officials
tell NBC News the president reluctantly agreed to keep
troops in Syria asking how much more time do you need six months
a year, the White House later saying the military mission to
eradicate ISIS in Syria is coming to a rapid end with ISIS
being almost completely destroyed. Not true is a current
and former officials. ISIS is not defeated and another terror
threat news Oh chi does global leadership has begun to shift
from Afghanistan and Pakistan to Syria taking advantage of the
conflict taking advantage of the of the chaos.
Bull crap. You know, I had a couple of thoughts during that
clip. It maybe I should the premise all of this by and I
just want to I want to make sure that you're in agreement that
this to me and everything I've seen particularly you go back
and look at Genie energy, stock symbol g n e very interesting
chart went way down, I'm just gonna go up, they have the
rights to the Golan Heights, they got a lot of rights to the
drilling. Right in that contested area of Syria, when
Syria has 2.6 billion barrels, I mean, they do have some
hydrocarbons and minerals that are interesting. But more
importantly, there has been this ongoing battle. This is what a
lot of this has been about from Qatar, the gas pipe goes up
through Syria, goes into Turkey then goes into the EU versus the
Russian Iranian pipeline which goes Iran Iraq, Syria, and then
there's the deepwater port there. They might even consider
piping some off to Lebanon and this is just competition and
the idea that we were pulling out here's what I think happened
the idea that we're pulling out
scared the French because total oil the all these guys are in it
that's why the UK and everyone's all Ford and all the war mongers
and the Neo cons in the UK is making a big big splash right
and I think what might have happened
here's what I wish would happen this is better I wish that this
in the in Trump's world he went Ah crap look what they're doing
because of course we have all of a sudden other chemical weapons
strike and I've been receiving YouTube videos and then all
kinds of articles all morning from our military connections.
And you know the the gas canister the chlorine gas
canister this one that came through the roof and didn't
explode. They show it it has merch on the side is made in
Germany. And and it was the Saudis likely the word this or
Qatar, he's probably the Saudis. They've got our jets and they
were dropping this stuff and Trump's like, oh crap, they're
gonna try and pull me in with this. And I think I will hope
and my world I think I really hope he went. I'm going to do
the crazy guy shit. Watch this. I'm gonna bomb you with the
smartest fastest shit. I'm gonna blow I'm gonna mess you up bro.
Oh, and that's why all of a sudden the Brits and the French
went oh man. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, we just wanted to
stay there. Don't go crazy, bro.
It's a distinct possibility. It is a distinct possibility, I
hope. I hope it is what he did. Because otherwise it's like,
wait a minute, you're gonna leave a minute ago and now you
want to bomb the crap out of everybody and start a war? Yeah,
let's come up with otherwise he's he's taken the bait and
he's an idiot. Very possible.
Both both scenarios are possible. Yeah, we don't. It's
like George Bush. Who? Yeah, when he was in office, it was
was Is he an idiot or the shrewdest man in the world?
Because he would they claim BOTH Yeah. Oh, what a dummy. What a
dummy. All Man, these guys is conniving. The antichrist. I
mean, give me a break. It's either one or the other. So we
don't know. And that was Trump's smart enough to become
president. I think this would goals everybody that can't
believe it. Right. So maybe you're right, maybe your thesis
is correct. I want to play these three short clips from PBS,
where they had the ex ambassador to NATO. And he said with some
connections to Syria, who came on and did with the scary with
the scary stuff. And, and then we get to hear the PBS NewsHour
guy, repeat a nonsense claim. And I want to just deconstruct
that, but let's play escalation potential PBS Syria, for
background. Okay.
President Trump tweeted this morning, the missiles are
coming. Let's say we do go forward. What are the options
for the US? Well, I think the first thing to consider here is
that the options will flow from the purpose of the attack,
meaning what we want to get out of the objectives, right. And
these have to come from a very deliberate process inside the
Situation Room, led by National Security Adviser a bolton and
ultimately approved by the President. So once the
objectives are set, and here, I imagine the objectives are
reasonably simple, and that is to punish those responsible for
this particular attack to impose costs. And by way of those
costs, attempt to deter future attacks. And if that's the
objective, from that flows, tasks to the intelligence
community, tasked to the diplomatic community and test to
the military, that we've heard that the Russians have said, if
the US strikes, they might strike back, not only will they
try to knock our missiles down, but they might even target the
platforms from which we launched those attacks. Is this just
Russian saber rattling? How do you how do you seriously do you
take that? Well, the thing that concerns me about this sort of
exchange of rhetoric on our side, but then the response on
the Russian so as you can already see a pattern of
escalation, even in the rhetoric, and the challenge here
is that such escalatory steps can be imagined to be
controllable from inside the Situation Room, they might, we
might imagine that these are discrete, controllable steps.
But in practice, they are often out of control, and we can lose
control, and they can spiral in an escalatory manner, because of
miscalculation and misperceptions. So the danger
here, I think, is that we launch into something that becomes
escalatory.
And that's how World War one started.
Yeah, it's a dangerous game. It's a dangerous game. Now. Oh,
go ahead. Yeah. Well, well, I was gonna, I haven't. I'm not.
I'm trying to think where my NPR clip fits in there. Let's do
another one. I got another one I get here's another follow up
that and then I have the link. I can play both these that it
makes some sense. Okay, let's do the X escalation potential. Do
nothing.
What do you think about the option of not responding? Is
that a viable option? Well, that's always an option as well.
The challenge here is that the rhetoric has already put us on
the path towards
in setting expectations towards a response. So there's a certain
cost by now if now we were not to do anything.
Okay, this is a pet peeve of mine. What is the cost? The cost
is the same thing we complain about bitterly and claim we have
nothing to do with it. We're Westerners so we don't worry
about saving face. That's something that Japanese do.
That's something that Chinese do. That's something those
stupid Asians all do. They have to save face. They gotta save
face. We do it more than anybody.
Don't you think? Yeah. Why is that political correctness at a
meta level? It's all say face. Oh, oh, we said we're gonna do
something. We didn't do it. Oh my god, we're screwed. It's just
part of saving face. This is nonsense. He can do whatever he
wants to do one way or another last one. I'd have another pet
peeve just to get it out of the way, which is the third
Clip with this. Would you listen carefully to this and you can
figure out what I'm gonna bitch about curtail this kind of
behavior? Is your sense that we can stop Assad from using
chemical weapons? I mean, he has done this dozens of times in
Syria.
Yeah, you mean stating falsehoods, this fact stating
falsehoods as fact, but in this case, he's gotten out of
control. He says dozens of times dozens, which is plural for a
dozen 24. Minimum at least, it means at least 24 times.
It means 24 times now this is a this is this is an ethical issue
as a journal? I think so. Yeah. I think it's a huge the ethical
issue cannot say somebody did something dozens of times, you
know, it dozens means dozens means minimum of 24. Because
plural does it has to be two dozen, at least, to be dozens.
Yes. So he said, he said 24 or more times, Assad has dropped
chemical weapons on his own people really? Well, I want to
see the documentation for that. And what is he saying something
like that? He could have said he's done it before, which is
dubious. But he didn't say that. He said dozens of times. This is
the News Hour, there's supposed to be the highest of the of the
high the the hottie of the hot AI, is what he said, I would
hate to see you in the newsroom. Oh, I'd be bitching and moaning.
You'd be good. But you're too expensive. Too expensive.
Too expensive. We live to two longer clips. And the
Okay, this is it really is like three minutes. But I feel it's
worth it. Just to get a little sense of we're not the only the
only ones who are crazy and think different about what's
going on. And I have people who are texting me and they're
afraid, like holy crap, you know what's gonna go on what's
happening? What's going on? We're worried or kids who are
worried. This is the former ambassador, the former UK
Ambassador to Syria, Peter Ford. And he's on BBC Scotland. And
the whole thing is really quite good. But that's just you know,
seven or eight minutes, I had to make choices Kill your darlings.
It's how it works. And he's having none of this. And of
course, the BBC guy really doesn't you know, he's just
doesn't understand his story. And he's going to explain the
White Helmets to us, he's going to really go down the list worst
case is that Trump does launch off with some very unwise,
multiple attacks on Syria. And given that Russian forces are
deeply embedded with Syrian forces, in particular air
defense, it's highly likely that causes Russian soldiers will be
killed. If anyone thinks that Russia will take that just lying
down. I think they need to think again.
Russian planes in the last 12 hours have been bothering us
destroyers in the eastern Mediterranean. Indeed, it's not
just the the US president, though, who's appalled by what
they've seen in terms of these pictures coming from Duma. We've
had condemnation from President Macron, likewise, from Prime
Minister Theresa May to if it isn't the sort of military
action that you've just outlined there, what should be the
response to this use of chemical weapons if it's approved?
The correct response is obviously and I think the child
could see this to get inspectors onto the alleged site of the
alleged offences. And if it's from our Vanport, because, of
course, we know that Assad has formed on this, we've had
investigations previously, and there has been fairly conclusive
proof that chemical agents have been used.
I don't think that Assad is in the least worried that the
inspectors would find out his guilt because he's probably not
guilty, at least on this occasion. I mean, we have to
engage our brains as well as our emotions here, not be stampeded
by those videos, which are described as being unverified
but which by dint of being repeated over and over and over
again, come to acquire a spurious credibility, we have to
ask ourselves, what are the sources of the information on
which we're in the stampede toward their twofold? And I'm
sorry, but the media falling down on the job in in
investigating, that's the sources, the Syrian American
Medical Society, which is a pro Islamist propaganda outfit based
in the United States. So using these
using these pictures have been staged. Are you saying that
people haven't died yet? People haven't been? Yes, yes.
Probability. The incidents have been staged. Come on, we know
how easy it is to fake images for the internet. Look at the
images
Anybody could stage those. And then the second source is
supposed to be so called first responders. Now the first
response, yeah.
The guy stepped all over the guy when he said and he talked about
that civility that
Islamist group. Yes. I don't know if he can back it up to
that. Yeah, I think he says it's financed by the CIA. Yeah. Guys
tried to step right on that line. It was very hard to hear
can Medical Society, which who the pro Islamist propaganda
outfit based in the United States
should have been state? I know, but this is welcome to journaux
2018.
He says it right there financed by CSI. You said and that's that
would be a jumping off point. But instead this idiot, that's
that is interviewing him is all flat flustered about something
else. He's not even listening, apparently, because he's
something early are concerned him. Yeah. He had to bring up in
the middle of this step on the CIA line, tinfoil hat that says
he was like, Oh, you're just talking conspiracy theory stuff.
Is it? Mr. UK ambassador, who do you think you are? HDX you're
saying that people haven't died? Yes. Yes. Yes. In all
probability, the incidents have been staged. Come on, we know
how easy it is to fake images for the internet. Look at the
images. Anybody could stage those. And then the second
source is supposed to be so called first responders who are
the first responders in this case, they are the White
Helmets, which is another pro Islamist jihadi propaganda
outfit. Who owns this
display.
Let me finish please let me finish this important point. The
witnesses to these terrible events are people who themselves
were involved in beheadings, literally picking up the body
parts and
to give credence to testimony from these alleged first
responders. But
Assad's reputation was already
I'm trying to ask your question to prove the point of why
you're, you don't allow the BBC does not allow questions of
important detail to be addressed. We have a short
period of time to prove what you're saying the advertisers is
that surely that Assad's reputation is already dented?
What would be in the interest of these people to stage these
events? Is that not obvious? A child can see that the intention
was to produce the hysteria and now the military action that we
are on the point of taking, risking our own safety. What the
jehadi Is have done is jerk our leash. And frankly, for one, I
think it's pretty disgusting that we are allowing ourselves
to have our own leash jerked by the Islamist fanatics. This is
what's going on and ask yourself, how does it how has it
prophesied? As said, please engage with your brain tested
the Queensgate your brand's asset benefited from all this
mayhem? In fact, it's rebounded against him. Why would he do
such a thing when he was already winning? The battle for Eastern
Ghouta was virtually over? Why would he choose this moment to
do the one thing that was guaranteed to pluck defeat for
him from the jaws of victory?
Thank you very much for joining us.
I'm a British ambassador at the time is 17 minutes. That's right
time and weather on the eights here on the beep Yeah, cut them
off. Gotta get to whether or not they're gonna get to traffic
time and traffic temper traffic on the eights
and what the M ones clogged? Yeah. Oh, yes. Yeah, avoid hot
tubs Peter Ford. Small aviation don't canoe on any water in
Washington DC.
Yeah, don't hang out with Hillary.
Though maybe not in this case. That was a good clip. I'll give
you a clip of the day for that fine. Oh, thank you. That's
clear. By producers producers baby producers we all somebody
somebody like that. Well, that's a very it's an enlightening clip
that you think that our news people would even kind of go on
it they pick up on everybody out? No, they're all Yeah, yeah,
yeah. And let's bomb Iran Iran while we're at it, because
you're gonna go back to their nukes. So let's just bomb
people. That mean the kind of reaction you get. The Democrats
are all in and the Republicans are all in and let's all
I'll just get this bombed them because they're all on the
second on the teat of Big Oil. They're all second on the big
military. Yep, it's a twofer. Yeah, it's a BOGO kinds of
bonuses. So what if? What if World War Three breaks out?
Benny's and mine it I got a place in the Bahamas. Let's go
to NPR very surprising. And again, one of our producers
actually did a couple of clips for this. But I'm just going to
play. Think to what, what are the Syrians thinking? And what
is life like in Damascus? Well, what I have millennials in my
life who are, you know, being frightened by this? Like, Oh,
hold on what's going on? It works. You know, this stuff
really does work, especially on younger people, then NPR took to
the ground. So what is your response to the saber rattling
from Washington right now?
Okay, actually, I'm one of many people here in Syria, especially
in Damascus. I can talk about Damascus, because it's my city
where I live. In general life is quite normal today. children
went to school, people went to work just like any other normal
day, I went to my work also, I went to the gym. Very, very
normal day. For the spin class. People are just talking about
it. They are making a lot of fun of the whole thing. They are
cracking jokes all the time. Some people were saying, yes, a
lot of jokes about it. Be honest. Okay, like Mr. Trump
said that the missiles are going to be smart. So people are
saying, Oh, if their missiles are going to be as smart as
Donald Trump, then the whole world must be worried. And many,
many other talks like Okay, let's get ready. Today, we will
prepare our popcorn and sit on the roof and watch the missiles
coming. Some people are taking it a little bit seriously by
starting to keep extra food at home, especially bread and rice,
which is quite normal at such kind of situations. Some people
get a little bit worried. Others are just to living a normal
life. I gotta say I'm a little surprised to hear that because
we see reports today that some commercial airlines have
rerouted their flights away from Syrian airspace worried about
these threats coming from Washington and
that hasn't put people in Damascus on edge? No, not at
all. Not in Damascus. Even in other gov. It's like I have
colleagues from work. We have different offices all around
Syria, and they are all cracking jokes on Facebook. Have you
heard about not just cracking jokes or cracking jokes on
Facebook? That's That's how much we're laughing about you nut
jobs there and Mirka Damascus say they support the idea of
some kind of attack or retaliate. Surely, despite that
kind of sense of humor that we are having is that the sarcasm,
people are quite angry, very upset. Of course, we totally
differentiate between American people and the American
administration. I have to make this very clear.
My goodness, well, if you remember when this whole thing
started, you early in our show, like I remember discussing this
eight years ago, there were all these reports of the normality
in Damascus, even people who were communicating with us.
Yeah, and they were just I don't know what you're talking about,
you know, this whole thing still reminds me of the trumped up. It
was Guatemala or one of these places where the CIA had
created, gotten a hold of the media. And they created this
idea that this huge army was coming into town.
We talked about this, we had some clips from some old age and
discussing it and it worked so well. They're marching in the
town. And they had convinced everybody that it was this huge
army led by this guy nobody ever heard of who walked into an
empty tank because everyone abandoned the Capitol. And they
just said, I'm now I'm running the place.
Was that was that bad information views to to control
the public? Yes. And, of course, this could not last the MPR guy
would not stand for this too long. I think this is about the
cheese refuting the chemical weapon attack. Okay, a lot of
NGOs. local NGOs are working near Duma now receiving those
people who are split from East Guta. And from whom they are
receiving those people who are coming out some of them they
want to go to collective shelters, others they want to go
to Jarabulus to be evacuated to the northern part of Syria to go
to the jobless area. So people who are standing there from
these local NGOs did not notice any people who are coming out
with any symptoms of being attacked by chemical weapons.
The Syrian Red Crescent and International Red Cross are
there and the Syrian Red Crescent is a very reputable
organization and nongovernmental organization here in Syria. And
the Syrian Red Crescent is one of the partners of the United
Nations also. So the senior Red Crescent confirmed that there
are no people who are coming out with any symptoms of being
attacked by chemical weapons. And have you seen
In the videos, have you seen those colors and what helmets
standing there, no masks, no suits, etc. And they are just
spray Rosenstein other. I've also seen overwhelming video
evidence of people trying very hard to breathe, people not
moving
videos that were like leaked from the White Helmets, etc,
showing how they are video grabbing these kinds of things
and they are just acting. How do you how do you handle this as an
NPR guy? No, I'm not. I don't really want to debate with you
whether there was chemical weapons or not. I
don't want to debate with you. Holy crap. That guy shouldn't be
ashamed of themselves. I don't want to I don't want to beat
that with you, man.
Oh, my God, this is what we have to deal with. Yeah. I mean, I
feel sorry for the public Did you know has to. I mean, it's
like, they can't trust these people. You cannot trust the
mainstream media. PBS, CBS, NBC, ABC, New York Times Washington
Post all these guys. They're all dumb shits.
You go by, we'll wrap it up with and this is also just kind of
showing that we're not if we're crazy. If you think we're crazy.
You're listening to this. We're not the only ones. Just so you
know, there's more of us. Here. She's gonna wrap it up. Where do
you place your hope for an end to the violence in Syria. I hope
that just Russia and America start to talk diplomatically and
catch up. Because this is a problem now between America and
Russia. It has nothing to do with Syria. This time, the
United US administration is accusing Russia, of using
chemical weapons. And we all know the story about the Russian
spy, etc. And how things escalated. So now it's just
between US and Russia. It has nothing to do with Sirius this
time. There you go. No, of course not. It's about the dumb
pipelines. So it is about so there's only two things you
know, I can't believe in it. An NPR guy would do that. Yeah, I
knew you would be well, I'll defend the videos. He's
bullcrap. And you You and I can put these videos together that
you know look like something's going on when nothing's going
on. Then you make some that, you know, some, you affirm that as
well. This was taken here or there. And these people are all
dead now. I mean, we've seen this this was years ago when we
see these videos where the dead person was breathing.
Or it was the same dead person over and over again. Yeah, I
mean that this has been debunked so many times that you can't
trust these videos. At all. They're not even worth. You
shouldn't even be watching them. But but they, but these guys
know that there's a bunch of suckers out there. And so
they'll keep producing these videos. And then to defend these
crappy videos with that. No, there's no provenance. Oh,
sorry. No, no, no, I'm sorry that fired by accident. I did
not do that. No, no, seriously, I was actually glad you were
talking because something froze because of something I did. And
that was a total accident. Okay, well, anyway, you get my point.
I totally get your point and still frozen damage.
So I want you to talk it's beyond me. What is all this
dimension B stuff is that they've signed up for thinking
this way and they're not going to even bother with trying I'm
going ahead with the you know with the lip Joes so we know
Yeah, it's they don't even care to listen to the any other side
of any argument whatsoever. They it's all set in stone. And there
was I forgot somebody sent us a note. I know if I haven't been
reading today, but they said that they were at the office and
and somebody says she believes in the Washington Post. That was
one of our guests one of our guys who sent it along he gave
given us a report from from the US Oh yeah, it was it was a
beautiful report. George very nice report and he says that
somebody in the offices they believe in the Washington Post
as a grant I thought it was from New York. I thought it was from
New York. No, I was New York you're right now London after
Gwen Eiffel quit she had to be one of the layers she was one of
the one of the editors one we laughed about the hardest turned
out to be the best yeah and when she left left left she died she
left like she left all right this stuff is creeping in a guy
saying dozens oh yeah sir ordered dozens or they're just
bombing left to right these guys gas and everybody when you turn
around to gas and somebody
I love how you hate that
you're really your your old friend guy that oh great guy,
you know like a visor. I do green green see through visor.
But sadly you know your your lib Joe buddies. They they just gone
completely off the reservation. Do you ever remind them of their
what is the Hippocratic oath for journalists for journalists?
What
As the Hippocratic Oath none really.
I used to remind them that they're nuts. And recently told
me they were both unhinged. And one of us goes hmm
know what I'm talking about.
I'm gonna show my school by donating to no agenda. Imagine
all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun
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He was pleased to have Dr. Pepper available. I guess he's
being knighted. Yeah, he's gonna be knighted. Okay, we do have
one so just Dr. Pepper.
We're just well yeah, so you mix it with something else? Yeah,
but what do you mix it with? I mean, that's that's not okay.
For the roundtable. It's a little bit note below our
standards. But adding it ourselves adding something
cayenne. Okay, Dr. Kn and Dr. Pepper and cayenne and dog get
his joke. Ah, no, I don't like it. No, it's got to be something
either Dr. Pepper in some kind of ROM or the
visit, you know, I mean, here's some other tips on arming JACC
and Dr. Pepper, which does taste good together. But the way it's
supposed to go is we have bourbon and bong rips cold brew
coffee and cannabis boobs and stinky tofu. Onion rings and ice
cream English muffins with butter honey Captain Morgan's
and women with questionable reputation I mean yeah,
something a little more. Yeah, do Oh yeah. Good duo.
Dr. Pepper a Dr. Pepper a hand job. And job.
No. Dr. Pepper and prunes. How about that?
Okay, hand job, John. Get your mind out of the gutter. That was
the name this is a true story. That was the name that Acer was
going to give their small pocket computer and job yeah, this was
a story told me by the CEO like okay.
cover stories. Wait a minute. 10 years, honey 10 years you've
never told me this.
So here I'm having lunch with the guys American CEO of Acer.
And he tells me the story that they were going to nacelles he's
got to be keep an eye on these guys as they get their nuts. But
he says they were and he tells me they're going to name their
little they're just during the area era of the castle pedia and
these kinds of pocket computers and
big just the early days of palm kind of thing. And, and Paul the
computer of course has a implication is you use your palm
to hold it. So they were going to name this little computer the
hand job.
And he had to put the kibosh on because nobody, I guess knew
what that meant. In Taiwan.
Which is ironic if you think about those barbershops.
So oh, so he was we're yakking away he tells me this other
story. And then he was fired shortly after this.
tells me this story. Not for the hand job thing he that he saved
the company there that would have been embarrassing. But he
says that
this is when Stan she was running Acer and, and his wife
was notorious for kind of really running Acer even though luckily
I get to sit at a table with him and his wife one time his wife
was one of this really sweet, nice lady. But everyone hated
her because apparently she was always meddling. Oh, which is
not unusual and Chinese companies. So everyone he would
fly over to Taiwan to do business. And he'd always take a
business class or some flight
to deck always was never the cheapest flight. And she would
have somehow had copies of the San Francisco Chronicle that
held these cheap flights to Taiwan for 200 bucks. You know
on correct grammar. I'm in airlines who times charters and
she would send to him. She sent him a page from the Chronicle
with all these cheap flights circled with a note, why aren't
you taking these flights?
No, he took another page from the paper which had all these
incredibly cheap junk computers for 100 bucks or 200 bucks. So
this is crappy, was made locally. And so he took and
circled all these cheap computers, attach it to her note
and said because we don't sell our computers for this price.
Wow. If you donated today, I think you certainly received
your value
The price of admission right there. Great story. Within a
couple of months he was gone. I'm changing it to Dr. Pepper
and a quick handy. I think that that is more appropriate. Okay.
Anyway, that's why that's what I was talking about. I was talking
about the little Acer computer was talking about I know what
you are thinking but as she's still running the company, even
though he only she retired some years ago and she's gone do it
with him and so know that company is now run by
professionals I tell aren't doing as well, the way I see.
Well, here's here's my thought on it. Once we get our two way
pager network up and running, we're going to crowdsource a
device and we're going to call it the hand job.
We could all right.
Sir uncle de vie, not.
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Oh, no, he sent a bunch of jokes and he wants me to try to slip
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About that we have a joke writer we can use for this sort of
thing. Isn't that good? But I I will see if I can get any of
these in. It's not going to be easy. Is that good? Huh?
Our joke writer Marty Higgins is Oh, right. He still writes for
you. And I wonder if I ask him nicely. I'm gonna do one thing
one of the scriptures jokes.
Producer pointed out to me that my growth here And Taro cards is
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All right. Yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah.
But we welcome him. I think I think the delivery was pretty
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he's in advertising. Oh, so the Mac the copywriter? Yeah. No,
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getting the same skip. Ah.
What is this? It's a hell
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people.
But don't make a long note like this. Yeah, no, no, it's too
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Ah, wow. It's been quite a lot of topics today. Yeah. Well,
Zuck took a lot of time. Yeah. All right. Are you in a hurry?
Yeah, I'm always in a hurry. Okay, he has things to do people
to see babies to kiss press, press and flesh got it.
This is a little bit of an algo story with just to lighten the
mood somewhat, confirming what I'd heard from the former New
York banker from Bloomberg girl regarding the pricing policy
Uber's new pricing policy. I haven't taken an Uber in a
while. But I remember the last time I did, it told me how much
it was going to cost right up front. I'm like, Oh, well, I'm
not going to take the Luke so why don't I just take the other
one because the same car. And as I figured that much out the
difference between their black or their Luke's or whatever is
exactly same car, but the driver may have a minimum 4.5 rating or
some crap like that. So I'll take my risks. Here's a
Bloomberg report on Uber rolled out upfront pricing for
passengers.
where they just told passengers you're gonna pay this. But
drivers were still being told in the public was still being told
it was routed in the same calculation time and distance.
And what we've learned is that Uber is now doing something
else, it's time and distance, and then sort of routes
propensity to pay, basically, you know, people traveling from
point A to point B, you know, we'll run experiments and see
how much we think they're gonna pay at a given time of day. And
then we'll charge them that and then Uber pockets the extra
money that it makes sometimes reinvest into driver bonuses or
incentives riders, but they they make that extra money instead of
passing it on to drivers. How does Uber decide whether to
charge more on a particular Rouse? I mean, they're using
machine learning algorithms, sort of predictive technology to
try and figure out, okay, if we charge, you know, a little bit
more for Uber X, our sort of peer to peer service and a
little bit less for Uber pool to, from here to there, is that
optimizing for our income and for usage to basically they're
running all these experiments, tied to geographies tied in a
time of day to say people traveling from this place to
that place? How much are they willing to pay? And then based
on those experiments, set the price.
There's a business model for you. She sounds like a
nightmare. Yeah, I like kind of like that lib, Joe. You know,
he's like, Oh, the drivers are getting screwed. I forget about
the drivers. How about the cup of the customers?
Yeah, just like, oh, wait, man. Oh, it's curry. Yeah.
Yeah, they could jack your individual prices up on the
individuals. Sure. But the thing is as a as a consumer of this
product.
Until I was told I really didn't think about it.
I really, I just I really just didn't even cross my mind. Like,
that's just the cost. You know, I figured it's per mile, you
know, the typical but no, it's not per mile that just like,
pay this much.
It's, it's pretty novel.
Yes.
All right. Well, let's see what else we got.
Hot sales in California aren't what they expected. Oh, you're
doing a little clip blitz on me, I guess. Fans have not bought as
much marijuana as expected. Since the drug became legal. The
Sacramento Bee reports retailers racked up $339 million in sales
in January and February. But that's about $44 million less
than Analysts had expected. The figures were provided by a
Colorado company called BDS Analytics. The state is expected
to provide its own sales figures by the middle of next month.
Well, 333 for two months, and we'll just got started is going
to go up, it'll probably be close to 400 million every
couple months, which amounts to a lot.
400 times six, six is $22.4 billion.
So that's yeah, they get some tax money that these other
states have to be looking at that California, you know, I
don't know what they're gonna do with this tax money besides, you
know, putting people's pockets but right. It sounds reasonable.
I'm gonna see if there's anything, I guess the big story
that we're hearing here, and I didn't really do a full EU
report, but I could still do that on Sunday. But this is I'm
sure that everyone knows about the story in the US now as well,
over the last three months, and in particular, in the last
several days, we've had a unusual spike in horrible
homicides.
Ghastly events that have taken people's lives and devastated
other people's lives, we clearly as a city have a big problem.
Now it's only affecting a small proportion of the city, but it
is a not a horrible problem. And it has has, you know, devastated
lives in the last few months. So looking forward, we all need to
work together. And from our part we need to up our efforts and
that's exactly what we're doing. And this is all about the knife
crime in the UK.
Which is having a higher death rate than Detroit it's London
it's incredible and it's their banning first of all, they're
banning the the British equivalent of the assault rifle,
which is the zombie knife, which I immediately when the story
broke ordered one on Amazon and I know it was delivered because
I got the notification because there'll be off Amazon soon
enough. What is it? God you gotta you gotta Google Bing it I
mean to Sorry, I gotta get
a messed up go to the EU next thing you know, you're saying
Google it. Yeah, hold on a sec. I gotta I gotta do Google de
Google find myself. What's the what was the name of zombie
zombie knife? Yes. Zombie knife. Yeah, what do you what are they
good for the good steak knife.
Go ahead.
Oh yeah
yeah
oh I'm gonna
that's the whole song I got just begun to start the music now I
just want the jingle cheese about this one What are zombie
knives are the street blades banned in the UK? And I've got
the images up and it looks as though there's two or three
cases of these Those are good company there's a there's a
stiletto and there's one that looks like an axe yeah that's
that I kind of got one of those law curving so it's got to be
curved blade I don't know what good that is. Yeah, with the
current looks like a cling on knife. Yeah, that's I got some.
There's a big scholar of choices. Just a whole crapload
of these things are all different looking.
So which one did you get at this hour? Well, now I died would
have to look up the
woman's head look it up. Well, I'm kind of interested in many
of these are just nerd knives. I can look at a saw blade.
Let me say Well, what I did was I got the one that most
accurately represented the British press their
interpretation of the zombie knife. So okay, here we go. Ah.
Oh my goodness. It's a good one. Okay, look for the Z Hunter.
That Zulu hasn't Zulu Zulu Hunter. Zb. Oh two. Oh, as in
Zebra Bravo. 020. Zombie killer machete. Twotone. full tang
blade, green cord wrapped handle 23 and three quarter inch
overall.
And that was just the one I said this is the one I think I've got
it. Yeah, the Z Hunter. Yeah, it's got a little thing at the
end. Like it could be a steak knife. Now is it one thing? It's
good? Yeah. Well, it's a little big. It's got the serrated edge.
It's got the the hook. It's got the head slicer. Yeah. Got
everything. You need to kill a zombie?
Yeah, I would put it I think it's a wall decoration. I think
but it's I think it's a collectible.
Well, you know, there's a lot of guys usually fat guys in Texas.
Collect knives.
I better start eating.
Yeah. Okay. I'm glad you bought that. That sounds like a good
use of your money. How much did it cost? Yeah, it was very
cheap. I just closed the window like, like 20 bucks or
something. It's not that ridiculous deal. I think it
gives me a bunch of these. It's just a whole bunch of them and
use them as steak knives. It is a little long. Why don't we just
use them as night instead of night rings.
Funny. Yeah. That's a thought. Yeah. I still think there'll be
bringing him to meetups and stuff. Now not a good idea.
Yeah, it'd be starting. Yeah, no, there's already enough
hardware at the meetups.
So I picked up this little mini clip, which I think is a classic
is I don't know why this is another thing reporters are
doing nowadays. They're putting their you know, they they're
like correspondents from the White House, or they're from
somewhere. And they do these field reports and they can't get
anybody to say anything to them. So they decide to put stuff on.
That's really just them yelling at the guy. And you see this.
You see this also at some of these
press conferences where they have a camera on the reporter
asking a question, but let's listen to this. This is Mr.
Manafort, did you commit a crime?
Mr. Manafort, did you commit a crime? The reaction was
Manafort. Good morning.
Mr. Manafort. Did you collude with the Russians?
Sorry, is wrong? Or to go? Oh, man, where's my any collusion?
Ah, damn it.
Too bad. So this guy had Kamala Harris was on Ellen Show and she
said something that she thought was funny about killing people
in an elevator
I'm sorry, did I blow your clip? No, no, go ahead play it because
I saw this has been all over the news here. I guess because Elon
is funny. This is brilliant is just funny. They find you're
very funny. They find your very endearing here. Oh, she's
endearing this for sure.
Kind of reminds me I do have
not a funny clip at all, actually. But we see we weren't
it. I put that. It was Loretta Lynch. Did you see your
interview with what's his face Lester? I didn't I didn't see it
now. Ah
this
Since this was about, you know, she's kind of refuting that,
that she told Comey to call not to call the Clinton
investigation investigation, but to call it a matter.
Did Have you heard of Comey testimony? Yeah. He said, she
told me call it a matter, not not an investigation. And I was
like, Whoa, you know, that's kind of weird. I'm paraphrasing.
This was Lester Holt, I think wasn't in the today's show,
maybe. And here, he asked the question, James Comey was
testifying before Congress, I think it was June of last year.
And he noted that you had asked him to call the Clinton probe a
matter not an investigation. But he said it made him feel I'm
paraphrasing, it made him feel strange. He noted it. What did
you mean, when you said let's call it a matter and not an
investigation? Well, you know, I I heard about that testimony. I
didn't watch it at the time. But I it was brought to my attention
later, and people were raising it with me. And my first
response was what, you know, what? Were what is the issue
here? And, you know, I remember specifically talking with him,
as we talked about sensitive things on a number of occasions,
you know, we often would have to discuss sensitive matters,
sensitive issues, terrorism, and the like, you know, law
enforcement policy, and the like, and this was the White
nation is everyone knew, and the issue when he and I sat down at
that time, which I think was early in the fall of 2015. was
whether or not we were ready as a department to confirm an
investigation going on, when we typically do not confirm or deny
investigations into anything. With rare exceptions, which are
Comey says you want to call it the Clinton matter. He wants to
call the Clinton investigation to the extent though, that he
noted it that it bothered him. Did he go to you and question
your credibility with regard to the Clinton case? Well, I can
tell you that, you know, it was a meeting like any other that we
that we had had where we talked about the issues, and we had a
full and open discussion about it. We didn't raise any concerns
and concerns were not raised.
The hair is a liar. Yeah. First of all, first of all, the big
lie is that she didn't watch it at the time, right. I was doing
so manually. Yeah. I had nothing better. I had something better
to do. Yeah.
She was glued to it. Let's face it. Why wouldn't she be there?
All right, what else? I got a this is a short. This is not a
Liza Schlesinger. But this is another comic that was just
floating around. Somebody just linked me to it. I don't know
who she is. But listen to this is the joke that I keep bringing
up, which is Ed girl, she says it in here the sexual
harassment. Hall Pass where it'll be like if a woman walked
by can I even say she looked nice. And men can not get
accused of sexual harassment. And whereas almost all the time,
man, all you have to do is be Hi.
I saw this with Tina. As she laughs Yeah, all you had to do
is be how you want to not get sexual charges of sexual
harassment. Just be hot
man, that's priceless. All right, you want to wrap it up
here? Well, let me get another couple of these shorties here
already. We have an insane homeless guy can run that to the
next show because it's pretty funny. Oh, come on. You rented
my whetted my appetite. But the insane guy that's doing this is
a local stories. But here's the one that's got all of
everybody's attention which is the little house and Glenn. Down
Willow Glen does and San Jose area. The $800,000 teardown
to attend a burned out home and San Jose's Willow Glen
neighborhood is selling for get this $800,000 It's another sign
of just how out of whack Bay Area housing prices have become.
Yeah, Kate's views ASOs Smith is at the home on bird Avenue as
the realtor says for some homebuyers. This actually might
be considered a bargain seriously.
Frank and Heather the realtor tells me that a bidding war may
even happen it's obvious when you see this house it needs to
be remodeled, possibly torn down demolished. The realtor tells me
the asking price is reasonable given the housing market and its
location
so this thing is a burned out Hulk I've seen it
all you see I think it's a national story. Yeah, I saw it.
But
I mean look, I can't call you my friend because you don't have
Facebook. But I really should recommend you think about
getting out at the top of the market.
You know, your place has got to be worse than some box
and if you if you know in it
is a tear down. Let's face it.
Yeah, with all that stuff you got in there not on younger
clean that just tear it all down, dispose of everything.
But who cares?
Yeah, moved to Wyoming a show really made me feel much better
if I do that.
Washington, Washington.
Okay. Let's see what else they got here. There's a couple of
you know what the one story we do have to do this story and
then we can quit. Darn it. And I do I think I have the lead and
the you know, the Trump's lawyers office was raided. Yes.
Yes. This is really odd. Very odd. And but and I have first
introductory clip, which is CNN, which is rating the lawyer's
office, you can play that we have given breaking news just in
the New York Times, just reported that the FBI today
raided the offices of President Trump's longtime Attorney
Michael Cohen seizing records related to multiple topics,
including on that payment to adult film actress stormy
Daniels alleged hush money. The New York Times also reporting
that the FBI also seized emails, tax documents and business
records, and that the records include communications between
Michael Cullen the president's attorney and President Trump,
which would likely require a special team of agents to review
because conversations with lawyers and clients are
protected. In most instances, this is a breaking news story.
My panel is here with me for the special breaking news and react.
And let me start with you, Bill, Bill crystal, the fact that the
FBI, apparently with a referral from Bob Muller, the Special
Counsel is rating Michael Cohen's offices, this seems
rather significant. And I assume they would need a warrant to do
that, which means the judge would have had to have found and
I'm not a lawyer, so don't hold me to this, but some reasonable
reason to do this. The FBI can't just go read offices that its
own. So that's interesting what a judge found that there was
some reason to take a look at these records and Cohen's
office. Yeah, yeah. What was the reason? Well, I think I found
the reason, okay. Even though everyone's all bent out of shape
about this, it seems as if Muller decided that there was a
crime committed, and he had to report it. So he gave it over to
the FBI and then they busted in and got into here is the here is
the only rational I think that actually makes sense, as opposed
to oh, they're just doing a fishing expedition to try to get
the goods on Trump, I don't think has anything to do with
Trump, I think is a situation where Moeller as a law
enforcement officer had to report this particular crime.
And it's kind of a joke What this crime is, but his wife bust
the lawyer one theory, it's still unclear what the FBI was
looking for bank fraud regarding the payment to stormy Daniels
has been suggested. Sources tell Fox News, Cohen paid Daniels
from an existing home equity line of credit, and that he
didn't need to tell the bank what the money was for the
$130,000 was then transferred to an LLC solely owned by Cohen.
And from there wired to an attorney in Beverly Hills wire
fraud. President Trump denies any knowledge of the
transaction. wire fraud. Well, I think wire fraud may be in part
of it. But I think the main thing is bank fraud. Ha.
man when he had it, he took out a loan, a home equity loan,
which you only do to improve your property or generally
speaking, and maybe you could take it out for any old reason.
That's what he claims are then wire fraud may be a fallback,
but it's something like that. It's got nothing to do with
Trump or the Russians. It's probably some tax implication
somewhere along the line with LLC in the middle because you
guys screwed the answer. Just shut up. Yeah. Well, I'll tell
you going on, oh, I got the money. I get it. And Trump had
nothing to do with it. When he just shut up. Yeah, he's a
lawyer. He knows better. Yeah, he's not a good lawyer. And if
he can't shut up, but that's, you know, it's concerning. You
know, this is the the people the president surrounds himself with
these morons. Well, maybe you got an upgrade here or there?
Well, I would be remissed without telling you what the
American public is not only really interested in, but
they're excited. And apparently, stormy also says she's talking
with federal investigators as well. And she's also coming to
see and up with us on Tuesday for her live first live
interview.
I suppose
many, many, many, many, many, many, many things.
Well, first of all,
Storm is not her name.
And I kind of prefer PBS because they use her name, which I don't
even have off the top of my head.
Because that's, you know, it seems to me that she did to keep
using her stage name. That's just promotion for her. They do
that with actors too savvy.
stripper I mean, ladies and gentlemen, give it up for Bobby
Zimmerman. Oh, come on. No.
Well, if there's in the news
didn't he changed his name? illegally to Bob Dylan? I'm not
sure about that. She's Stephanie Clifford. There you go.
Okay, okay, well done.
Wow way over time way Oh, wow. When you know, you know, the
biggest problem is
you can't stop the machine now. I can. No, that's not it. Just
keeps recording. No, we never exited executive mode, but I'll
do that at the very end. Ah, yeah, we got it. I got Yeah,
though. It's just douchebags the whole time executive douchebags
kind of something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's
fine.
All right, everybody, this was your bi weekly media
deconstruction.
And so you know, stormy Daniels is they got it her heights five,
seven. And apparently her weight is 2010 pounds.
Who says that? Oh, I'm sorry. I'm reading the wrong line.
They're
fine. Coming to you from the garden of Amsterdam here in
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