I learned it by listening to you. Okay. Adam curry, John C.
Dvorak. Sunday, March 18 2018. This is your award winning get
more nation media assassination episode 1017.
This is no agenda.
Asking the age old question collusion broadcasting live from
the capital, the drone star staying downtown Austin chaos in
the studio in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
and from Northern Silicon Valley where there's no collusion. I'm
John C. Dvorak.
Raglan Buzzkill.
But it's just so fun to ask the question, any
collusion? I just can't get enough of it. Yeah, yes. It's a
question that needs to be asked. And that is the question for an
over indeed. Ah.
All right. It's a show day. What has happened. seems something is
happening every day now. We're all going crazy. coming unglued.
Well, miles, we'll start off with this then. Can you find
that clip? is from a couple of shows who are last show and his
last show? Yeah. Putin kicking the bucket bucket. Yeah, I
think I can. Was it? No, it was,
you know, it was called kick the bucket. Putin.
Putin kick. Let me see. Yes. Okay. You need the clip. It's
only 14 seconds. Yes. Yeah,
please. skripal was arrested in Moscow in 2006. Then sent to
Britain in 2010 in a spy swap. At the time, Vladimir Putin
issued a chilling threat that the deal just gets flushed
traders will kick the bucket. Trust me, he said.
Right. Okay. Yes, I
remember we get a note from one of our producers that appears to
be in Switzerland. Small time producer here. My wife is
Russian and speaks English fluently. I played the Putin
clip from the most recent show for her. The journalists
translation claiming Putin threatened that traders will
kick the bucket is bullshit. Ah, okay said. Putin said it's the
business of the Secret Service. That is all. Wow. Now, who was
that? Who? Who would launch that obvious fake news clip into the
belief
that it was one of the networks but unfortunately, I didn't tag
it. I usually tag it with ABC or CBS or whatever. But it was one
of the networks. And it was like a bogus report. And I asked the
question, well, how do they think they're going to get away
with this crap? They got away with it a little bit. But I did
ask for the translation. Got it. Within a day, and turns out
there was it was nonsense. They were just making it up. kick the
bucket? Well, I thought it was a little fishy to begin with.
Because who would freight? Does the Russians have a phrase to
kick the
bucket? Yeah. Well, I'm I'm a little concerned that you had to
specifically send it to someone and ask or we have numerous
Russian agents, I mean, producers who listen to the
show, and no one has mentioned anything
worried about that part? Well, I don't know why that would be as
possible they were paying attention it was you do have to
take the clip and listen to it carefully. Because this guy's
yelling over.
Well, let's let's play it again so that other Russian native
natives who are listening can just get it one more time. And
if they hear anything, and they are different, or if there's
some other opinion, they'll let us know.
skripal was arrested in Moscow in 2006, then sent to Britain in
2010. In a spy swap, Oh, yeah. At the time, Vladimir Putin
issued a chilling threat
at the dealer Spitzer, traders will
kick the bucket. Trust me, he said,
Okay. Traders will kick the bucket. You can trust me, if you
listen to them. Like they didn't have enough words in there to
fill all that out.
Well, we got another note from one of our producers, sir night
of Christmas. I'll just leave it at that. Dear John and Adam. I'm
a dude named Ben who works at the OPC W. This is the
organization that oversees the chemical weapons. Yes, we have
that note. I think I'm the I think I'm the only one who
listens to the show who works here. So yeah. Hey, guys, that's
me. I'm listening to the show. I'm not a douche bag. I'm on a
30 month payment plan and a night I wear my silver ring with
pride every put silver in parentheses. Very cute. I wear
to be in quotes. Don't rub it. So not so much white gold. Oh,
yeah. In quotes and quotes.
I wear my in quote silver, quote Enza close with a ring with
pride everyday I talked I talked about you guys a lot. This week,
we had a meeting of all delegates which we have about
four times a year according to our linguists. The atmosphere
was terrible during the meetings because of the incident in
England. I'll keep you up to date on all of the crazy stuff
going on there. But just so you know, we laugh at the meme that
North Korea has the largest stockpile of chemical weapons.
We're not allowed in the country but trust me, we would know keep
up the great work. And we appreciate this kind of
information. This is this is, this is why we have the best
audience
of all podcasts. This is really half of the show. Yeah.
More than half actually. Probably it's kind of all of it.
Well, you know, there's there's been a lot of analysis being
done on on what's going on here. But, I mean, here's what I got
from the UK from from our own sources. So you between you and
I, what do we know? These two were poisoned and it may be
hundreds of other people who could be dying.
We're one guy okay. The one guy was shocked to death the
businessman the guy used to run Aeroflot Yeah, that guy was
found dead about a week or a week and a half ago and now
they've determined with through an autopsy that was choked to
death so that's a little different than a guy being
watched and by I
guess I'm talking more about the actual agent itself that
novichok which is was immediately identified even
though no one really knows what's in it.
Right and and the Russians in the other tidbit, the Russians
have asked for a sample because they're incredulous they don't
believe this is they think this is Oh, yeah, they won't get it.
They're not giving them a sample they're not giving an mitzner
sample why not? Well,
here's some other data points we had the cop who apparently was
all had also fallen dangerously ill after being first on the
scene. He somehow was recovered fully and he's you know, I'll do
an interview so I'm not sure what happened or didn't happen
to him. We so we still have no actual understanding of what
this Nova truck is. We have the UK is not an important port and
downside to say they don't know what it is. That's where it goes
to be analyzed. Yeah, I have no other stories of any people who
were to who would be dangerously ill. I mean, you know what this
reminds me of? David Kelly. TV producer. Oh, no, no, no, he was
the scientist who? Who was who had proof that there were no
weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. And then okay, and he
killed himself with like a butter knife. Oh, that the
British guy? Yeah, you killed himself with a butter knife
in the woods, in a ditch with a machine gun, apparently,
whatever it was, you know, there's just, I don't know,
somehow for some reason we need to wage war with Russia. That's
what's obvious. And everyone's getting in on it. And I guess
Trump is in on it too. I mean, he's he's a was was seems like
like some madman Russians but must have been the Russians.
It's a little too convenient to be the mean the Russians are
shocked about this. play this clip Russia versus the UK PBS.
Okay.
The diplomatic divide between London and Moscow deepen today,
with British police saying that a Russian businessman may have
been murdered. Nikolai Glu scoff was found dead Monday in London,
where he had won political asylum in 2010. Investigators
say they think he was strangled his death followed a nerve agent
attack on a former Russian spy in Salisbury, England, and
Murphy of Independent Television News reports from Moscow.
The imagery couldn't have been lost on the President in the
middle of an international crisis about where a lethal
chemical agent was produced. He appeared in a white coat in a
Russian laboratory.
It seems imagery wasn't lost on the foreign secretary either.
Boris Johnson appearing in a military bunker to point the
finger of blame directly at the Russian leader.
Our quarrel is with Putin's Kremlin, and with his decision,
and we think it overwhelmingly likely that it was his decision
to derive an agent on the streets of the UK on the streets
of Europe for the first time since the Second World War.
The response from the Kremlin was immediate. They what action
will be taken against British interests hasn't yet been
announced. The foreign secretary's accusations were
described as shocking and unforgivable. The Russian
foreign minister was in no mood for discussion. I don't want to
comment on what's happening anymore Sergey Lavrov said and
let it stay on the consciousness of those who started the
shameless unjustified Russia phobic game
now let's just say maybe it's not at all about warfare between
countries and we have to go get Russia because the telegraph the
how, how much do we trust the Telegraph in the UK? Are they
decent outfit?
Yeah, they're okay. Headline
poisoned rock. Should spy Sergei skripal was close to consultant
here it is Christopher Steele Nice catch. How about that?
Maybe we had to coincidence there maybe you had to clean
something up it's quite a way to go to clean up some loose ends
but all right, maybe get a twofer?
Yes, this whole thing is quite suspicious in the course of the
mainstream media is just going with the Russia stuff. You know
our Russia those bastard Well,
it's because once again they've got too much going on. They got
too many stories now we have the New York Times going crazy about
an old story as far as I'm concerned. Oh, oh, the Russians
can shut off our power at any minute. In fact, that's probably
shut off my server earlier it's just shutting stuff off.
If you're gonna go there, I do have a clip for that. I think
we're kind of done with
the with this. We have nothing on the on the binary
speculation. I mean, it could have been the Ukrainian could do
this. But now that you brought in Christopher Steele gets kind
of annoying, whatever. Now I'm not gonna say anything. Like, I
got a couple
of clips on this cyber is more of the hysteria than anything
but what do you have on this cyber cyber
TV? So that's quite funny. I'll play the funny part first. Okay.
Which would be actually be normally be the kicker. But
since we got more than one clip, I am not gonna I'll just just
punch line first. It's a daring attempt here.
Yeah, hackers everywhere.
We don't get discovered. They're hoping they don't get
discovered. It's it's a military fight right now for cyber
warfare. So cyber warfare is going on all the time. Every
day, you know, as we speak, as we're talking right now. There's
there's active hacks that are happening as we're going on
right now talking, we're hacking into Russia. Russia's hacking to
us. Iran's hacking was North Korea's hacking to us. We're
hacking into them. It's a massive battle that's occurring
right now.
Oh, my God.
What happened to pew pew pew that didn't have any good any
good sound effects there? Oh, it could be happening as we speak.
Anything could be going on? Yes, they're here to kill us.
The press the original clip that was should have been played
versus the next one, which is hackers PBS.
Now the threat to the US power grid and other vital
infrastructure. John Yang has more on newly revealed hacking
attacks by Russia here at home.
Judy, the Trump administration has accused Russia of a series
of cyber attacks on American and European power plants, water
facilities and electrical grids. Officials say the intrusions
began in 2015. And continued through last year, while the
hackers had their fingers on the switches so to speak, they
apparently did not actually shut off power. The FBI and other
agencies tracked the hackers and alleged that Russian
intelligence is responsible for more on these attacks and the
wider cyber battlefield. I'm joined by David Kennedy, the
founder of trusted second tech security firm. David, thanks so
much for joining us. Now, does this mean that they still have
their fingers on those switches and can can sort of wreak havoc
at will?
The energy grid and the water treatment facilities aren't like
one interconnected system. So you know, throughout the United
States, there's a number of there's a number of companies
and you know, it's a disjointed system. So, you know, the FBI
is, you know, working with all of these different companies
trying to find out what level of access they had to try to boot
them out. So, you know, there still could be access into the
systems. We don't know how widespread this was. And, you
know, the Department of Homeland Security didn't really give all
the details. We don't know if they're still in the systems,
but we just know that they were specifically targeting a large
amount of our infrastructure so that, you know, possibly in the
event that there was a military conflict, they could, you know,
shut us down a large percentage of our infrastructure. Well,
crap,
yeah. Let me do that. Yeah. Yeah, go ahead.
But I just want to say though, there's little tidbits in there
that are kind of interesting, because if you remember our
shown, it has bitched and moaned about the, these attempts to
make one giant grid. Yeah, which seems so smart. It seems like
the dumbest thing you can imagine because, and these, this
guy even says, Well, you know, they're all little separate
little operations, and it's kind of hard to, to do anything with
one fell swoop, which is true. And whether you can do anything
at all some of these systems are antiques, and they don't have
the only thing going on with the computers they get into stuff
maybe some system or two has some control and may not be
hooked to the internet, which would be wise. And but yeah, it
really is very flaky reporting.
Mitchell Ratto Rachel Maddow did she's she's the one really
pushing this and it's all based on a New York Times article and
you heard the meme there. The the title of the article is
cyber attacks put Russian fingers on the switch at power
plants. So you'll hear everybody with finger on the switch if it
wasn't Trump. with his finger on the button, its finger on the
switch finger on the switch ready to just turn us off at a
at a moment's notice. Be very afraid. And that's exactly what
Matt out did. And she, of course, as she does these days
is brought on one of the journalists who wrote the story,
you know, as to even be out of breath, just named the studio
that my article just dropped. Or they get them on the phone. And
the woman who wrote this is, is a Hummer. First of all, listen
to Rachel,
this is the first time today that the US government has come
out publicly and named Rob,
this is actually that's the thought this was the intro.
Wait, is this the intro? Yeah, this is the intro where she's
explaining it. Yes, the Hummer shed
the perpetrator behind some of these pretty serious attacks on
our critical infrastructure. there last year, as you
mentioned, I covered the attack on the Wolf Creek nuclear plant
that was one of about a dozen nuclear power plants that
Russians had targeted. Different in the announcement today, is it
actually included a screenshot showed Russia's Russian hackers
have their buttons. Sorry, their fingers?
Oh, yeah, she's, she's one of those di t people buttons, the
buttons,
buttons in there figured out the button to get a button.
But in the announcement today, it actually included a
screenshot that showed Russia. Russian hackers have their
buttons, sorry, their fingers on the buttons here. They if they
want to kind of shut down some of these power plants or
sabotage them in some way, there's no as they have done not
yet. For the first time, we put out publicly that they certainly
have that capability.
Why was the previous warning the power plant operators secret,
the one that you reported on last summer, that was not a
public warning, it did ultimately make it into public
discussion, in part because of your reporting on it. But this
one is today, it doesn't necessarily follow that the
increased severity of the cyber attacks would result in it being
more important for this warning to like or with some of the same
caution apply that led them to keep the previous warning
under wraps. I think when they first came out with it last
year, it had been about three months in into a series of
attacks on power plants and nuclear facilities. And as we
reported last year, basically they'd only gotten into the
province and administrative computer networks back then they
hadn't been able to make the leap from those networks into
the control systems themselves. What's different now and what
they came out with today was bad. Basically, that's changed.
We're now in a very serious situation where Russian hackers
are no longer just in the administrative networks, they
actually are in the computers that have access to the
machinery themselves. They're they're stealing screenshots.
And they were taking,
oh, they're stealing screenshots
from the Department of Homeland Security published today, which
shows that they were there, there, they they can turn off
some of those power plant systems if they want to, they
can manipulate them, they can sabotage them. And they're
there. And I think we've got into a gun, where these attacks
have gotten so serious, that we were left with no choice but to
come out and say, Hey, we know you're there.
Now. So the entire article
turning off the internet, you dummy,
the entire article is based on one screenshot, which somehow
proves there there. Really, I've read the article twice, just to
make sure I understood what they were what it was saying. And
this is Nicole Pearl Roth, who co wrote the article. That's all
they they sent a screenshot, which strangely, is not
available in the New York Times article. But yeah, screenshot
this secret screen shot at the power plant.
Now luckily, Rachel did ask some follow up questions Is
this the sort of thing where identifying it pointing out what
they've done naming, in some cases, the name and shame but
ways that these hacks were achieved, the specific type of
malware that was used and all these other things, strings of
computer code that are in this technical alert? Is this the
sort of thing we're naming it and identifying it will allow
power plant operators to stop hackers from potentially doing
this? Or are these power plant operators essentially helpless?
And tonight, if Russia, they could shut these things down?
It's a great show.
You need to stop talking during I know I stepped over my own
line
on it too. They could shut these things down.
It's a great question.
That's not a great question. It's not a great question. I
think at this point. Part of the reason they came out with this
is to tell power plant operators, hey, look for this on
your systems because it's happening and it's real. cases
when you talk to some of the targets, they don't even know
that they've been compromised. Hopefully, we hope that in Many
cases when the government sees evidence or picks up evidence
that Russians are inside their systems, they tip off these
companies as soon as possible. But there's definitely some
instances out there where you have a situation where a power
plant, or a critical infrastructure provider oil and
pipeline operator has been compromised by some of these
Russian state sponsored groups and don't even know about it.
It's real. It's just real man. It's really,
you know, the New York Times is pretty or used to be very picky
about people going on the air left and right. But I think this
is a very poor representative of the reporting class in this
country in general. Well, they're on kids she says button
button and she sounds then she stretches her words out like a
Hummer. And she's sounds like a dummy. Yeah. And
what's what,
what does she report on what the operating system was? We're
dealing with, you know, not even
in the article doesn't really report it. We know what it is.
But it's it's ENT isn't NT three. But interest we got we
got an interesting announcement yesterday. Today, that will be
not yet not today. That was that was more than a month ago,
CrowdStrike issued a joint press release with drongos to finally
announce the partnership they've developed over the course of the
past year. partnership allows our customers the benefits of
CrowdStrike experience with the enterprise network to be
combined with the Dragas expertise of the industrial
control control system environments. Everybody's buying
now. So these guys got a JV going, Oh, we can protect you.
Symantec is everywhere. Yes, yes, it's very dangerous, you
know, you should use our services, dangerous buyers, and
ratio was very afraid.
The scariest thing and so I cyber attack news today was
going to be the other story that Nicole Pearl Roth had in the New
York Times today, which is about a petrochemical plant in Saudi
Arabia being hit by a cyber attack that was designed to not
just shut it down, but to make it explode and kill people. And
then we got her follow up story, which is about what's happening
here. right under our noses.
That's right, baby. It was designed to explode the plant
and kill people. Yeah, specifically.
I remember that when the last time we went through this, this
was just last year. The hackers were in and it turned out it was
completely untrue.
Well, they there is what we do know from my discussions with
people at CloudFlare, to same This is that same period of time
when I discussed this with them, is that the Iranians are big
into this stuff. And especially after they got attached to the
exploding stuff, you know, into hacking and getting, you know,
they're causing trouble everywhere. And they would be
the ones that would be attacking Saudi Arabia with some code,
whether it could make anything do anything other than turn off
a system or make one of the processes go berserk.
But here's what here's what I understand. I'm looking at. I'm
looking at articles from 2017 Jun. Russia has developed a
cyber weapon that can disrupt power grids, according to new
research. This is here we go Daily Mail, Russia tried to hack
Britain's National Grid tried to penetrate telecoms companies. I
mean, it's just recycling. There is not I don't think there's
anything new except some flaky screenshot, which I haven't
seen. Maybe it's been made available since the article
first came out. That's the only news.
I know as not being shown. Because it's bullcrap. You know,
because there probably isn't screenshot floating around for
some reason. And it's it's probably so mundane, it might
just say hello, gotcha. You know, something new. I don't
even think it'd be that good. It would be just something.
Something mundane is so boring and mundane people go what's the
big
deal? Yeah. Doesn't seem to be much of a deal.
But well, these guys are keeping they just want to keep this pot
boiling and keep Russia in the news. But, you know, if the
Russian if the Russian intelligence services were this
slipshod, I think that's a good thing. But I don't think it's
true. I don't think they're that slipshod, where they get caught
because they're using their IP addresses from Russia when they
could use any in the world whose various techniques. It's,
it's interesting how that makes no sense. The experts are always
able to claim that it's not just Russians. I don't know it's
coming directly from the Kremlin. And that's that is in
every article. This is not this is now coming from Kremlin
directed government hackers.
Yeah, there's a little small office right outside Paiutes
office. Yeah, just those big giant one of the offices in one
of those giant gold doors. It's in the doors
in the door itself. Yeah, I'm not too worried. Personally, I
am worried about my own building here who can't seem to keep the
power on when it gets too hot or too cold, but Russians know not
so much.
Your building has these issues.
Yeah. Russians man Russians, I'm telling you, so are you are?
Well, okay, I guess we get the hacker stuff out of the way
we do. But we haven't answered the question. Any collusion.
That's what we still need to get. We need to know if there
was any collusion at all.
So I put in the newsletter a very funny clip from another
podcast. That Yes. I don't know if you ever did you listen to
it. No.
No, no, I Yes, I did. I listened to the whole thing. I didn't
listen to it from the newsletter, but I presume was
the same one about the the Yes, yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Now, well,
I listened to it after the last show. And I recall that we have
discussed this pool, maybe eight or nine years ago, a long time
ago. I think these these Yeah. Well, I tried to find I tried to
bring it couldn't find any references are our own being
it.io doesn't go back past episode 492 When we were doing
structured show notes. I know sucks. But yes, I do recall
this. And that's very interesting. And I've been
looking forward to your reporting on it
is very interesting. Turns out these guys, I thought would,
well, I got turned off immediately by their bowl crap.
I think this festival report was just a crock. And I'm sorry, I
had any I put it in there. But I'm also sorry that we got this
information from our own people, which is like, can't you read
between the lines? Here's the clip that really, you want to
explain what the what it is. Okay. SC SS, is a senior
executive services, which is an operation that was started in
1979. That was, isn't the way I see it, even though I have a
couple of people that worked there, or worked under them who
sent notes in which I'll read. But I see it as just a giant
executive temp service. And it reminds me of venture
capitalists who use have the in house the would go to CEO, they
have some guy who's always have a CEO at the VC firm that is
used as the designated CEO. If something falls apart, and they
had to fire somebody, they put this guy in, right, and he takes
over the place and he's just a generalist, and he knows how to
be an executive. And that's what he does. And that's what this
operation is. And it turns out this operation was formed at
right after the Gerald Ford administration. And because Ford
had gone through a number of firings, similar to what Trump
is doing it, because once he took over, and it caused a
vacuum in leadership in the government just didn't have
enough people to fill these slots, right. And so they were
very conservative about who they would put on the cabinet. In
fact, Jimmy Carter when he got in office, and this is this was
passed, and this was actually went into play. And the SES was
put into play in July 13 1979. Carter on the on July 19. Once
these guys were in play, in other words, they had though,
this, these got these professional executives who
could take over slots throughout the government, and especially
take over those there's Undersecretary at some of these
lesser slots, where they can teach the new guy who's coming
in how to do his job. Because in the past, they would and Carter
was suffered from this in the past, they would just keep
passing it on. Oh, here's the guy worked in Lyndon Johnson he
was Secretary of State for that's why this guy Schlesinger
was fired it was both worked for both parties to get fired. Every
time somebody come in to get rid of him because he wasn't that
good, but he knew the job. It was a huge problem. So six days
after the SES was in play, was when Jimmy Carter went nuts. And
I'll read I'm gonna read from a Time Magazine. An article from
that period. Brought Jimmy Carter fired like five Cabinet
members and 34 assistants. It was outrageous. In four days,
Jimmy Carter dismantled the leadership of his government by
demanding the resignations of his top 34 cabinet and staff
aides which i As you recall, I suspect to something like this
was going on because they wouldn't mention Carter when can
bring him to Trump Yes, because they Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so he
asked for the resignations of top 34 cabinet and aides and
then this chairs of power theoretically empty he said
about firing those he did and this is interesting too. In
light of what you hear from some of the clips I have abuses all
in fact let's play this one it does go aside play this one
shields clip that I have here Shields and Brooks on firings
and so he's he's decided I'm happy here and I'm gonna I'm
gonna get rid of the people who are making me feel
uncomfortable.
Mark should we be ringing our Hands over this or just say
there's the White House does that he's just having people
around him who make him comfortable.
It's a new standard for hiring people for jobs does he or she
makes me comfortable, not whether they can contribute to
the public weal and make the country better or anything. So
he's stumbling a lot. But he says it's a new standard,
really, because that's exactly why Carter did it. So it's not a
new success.
Carter. Carter did he really did a bloody Saturday or whatever
they
were though. Yeah. But he knew the SES was in place and so he
could get rid of all these people because normally it would
make these all these all the departments on inoperable they
wouldn't work at all right. So once that happened, it was six
days later that Carter took this move, he didn't do it earlier.
It is all part of the this is all part of a civil service
reform, I think was 1978 There's a huge reform that took place
because of this problem they had because of these guys that kept
getting passed around because they were the only guys who
could do these jobs out of the blue. Anyways, M was read from
this time magazine article and then the chairs of power,
theoretically empty. He said about firing those who deemed
ineffective disloyal. Sounds like Trump, political liability
sounds like Trump and annoyances to his closest associates. Hey,
yeah. And so So meanwhile, shields is saying oh, this is a
new zero normal new normal and shields knows about this. He was
he's just disingenuous that whole PBS discussion between
those two boneheads is got to go. I gotta
ask you. Yeah, he knows because he was there, but I have a
feeling he's his memory, his judgment. Everything's been
clouded.
Well, he's definitely a dimension be. So let's play what
really set me off on these on these guys who did this, this
podcast? And I do want to read one note first, which is this
from one of our producers. In case you didn't know that other
podcasts you cited is run by this NSA guy. Oh, yeah. Well, in
a safe two years ago, Thomas Paine, aka Douglas Gabriel, PhD,
has retired from a full career in education as a headmaster
administrator and teacher at various Waldorf schools, which
are based on the work of Austrian philosopher Rudolf
Steiner. Prior to this, he was a Trappist monk and a Jesuit
priest. And prior to that he was drafted into the Army where he
worked as a cryptographer and systems analyst and signals
intelligence at NSA. He is an admitted Luciferian nice
following the Rudolf Steiner School of Thought, which is
essentially New Age Gnosticism slash Satanism.
All right, nice. So that's in the NSA was,
well, that guy, again, sounds like a cool character. They got
me they got me all irked. This is SES Tillerson. Okay,
but pay you the big bucks more than I the state's we're gonna
pay you taxpayer dollars. The amount that you demand to be
paid? What do you think we are paying Rex Tillerson? I'm
wondering if he was SES. When it comes down to it, the head of
these agencies are all SES from the list that you gave, or many
of the agencies and the other ones are so hidden as you say,
who knows? So who's being paid those bigger, those bigger
rapes? Those bigger numbers? Those would be the true insiders
who are staying forever like a rod Rosenstein who probably is
SES.
Yeah, there was there was a lot of this about the lives it's
the probably wait a minute, let's go back to the let the
Tillerson thing Tillerson was the CEO of Exxon making millions
and millions of dollars needs
to go for 157,000 a year. That's That's motivation right there.
And this guy says, oh, Tillerson is probably SES. Oh, really? So
he's working for the government as an SES executive for that
whatever the GS 15 pay one. So he's doing a double dip really
well. He's making millions at Exxon, you even think that you
got for anyone listening to this or anybody out there to listen
to this. This thing? It didn't notice this screwball
discrepancy, and didn't stop right there. So why are we
playing this? We did have a couple of people that wrote me
doing the guy with the satanists stuff.
So I'm, I'm a little unclear on is are you debunking the podcast
debunking the idea of the SES? I'm not quite sure where you go
on both.
Okay. The SES is what it is. And here's the guys writes in one of
our producers, after looking at the oh, he also went to the
executive order and looked at was the guys bring up this
executive order of Obama that they claimed stuffed the SES
with 90% of them. It turns out, you can go to the SES website,
which is under the think is Opie W oh pm eastern There's Oprah
under Opia. And they tell us all these documents are in there.
You can read how they operate. They have these little mini
contracts. Yes, they do pay 120% premium over Gs 15 in certain
positions. And but it's mostly 240 Day deals, they bring these
guys in and they're supposed to fill all these slots in this was
and they're able to do it. And our producer Brendan says, wow
is someone who has worked for SES appointees under multiple
administrations is a government guy, you know, what they should
these guys out
here what they should do? They should make podcasters SES
members. That's what you need to do? Well think about it, we'd be
perfect.
Under multiple administrations, these guys sound completely
clueless. These appointees are absolutely accountable to
department heads. And when the administration shifts, every
single one of them who wants to stay employed, ends up shifting
to do the bidding of the current administration, at least in my
experience. Anyway, he wrote, actually, we went back and forth
and he went and looked at a bunch of different things. It
turns out that these characters with this dough this is this is
their this is our dark net. This is the what is it stay Deep
State, deep state. And it's not. So here's another clip from them
SES saboteurs.
I'm still curious why you're so irked about all this
people have even heard of is that it appears to be put in
place specifically to stop any kind of effectiveness within the
elected group of people that the people put in place. And it's
it's apparent with, with our current president, that these
people are pulling in another direction. And so from the
standpoint of organizational development, as far as I can
see, this group needs to go away. Because there's no way our
elected president can do his job with these people. They're all
Saba tours, it's obvious they're all saboteurs. Why are
you so upset about this? Has the SPS been a big thing recently is
people talking about? I heard from you, I learned it by
listening to you. Okay.
The reason I'm irked about it is because the mainstream media
Well, this brought to my attention and I'm irked it was
presented poorly. And it's also representative of the podcasting
class. And it's kind of annoying. Yeah. But the thing
that gets me let's play it, I'm gonna go back to mainstream
media. If you start listening between in the lines let's see
shutdown investigation shows him Brooks is one of these clips.
Okay? Now, this is Martha Raddatz. And I want you to
listen between the lines with it in mind, that just chaos and all
the bull crap they keep promoting, that the mainstream
media is pushing is really resolved by the SES. And people
want to get rid of the SES or, or, or nots. Because these are
the guys that when, when, when a new administration comes in,
especially when it changes parties, not so much when it
stays the same party. But when it changes parties, they gotta
get rid of a lot of people and they always have all these guys,
these positions aren't filled. Oh, the guy's an idiot, and
Trump can't get anyone filled, the government's falling apart.
It's all chaos. If you read between the lines, they know.
They know that this is not true. They know that the SES is in
there with their people to keep things on an even keel. But yet
they still report as if they don't know play this Raditz clip
and listen to it carefully.
There is no confirmed Assistant Secretary for East Asia, no
ambassador to South Korea, and no special representative for
North Korea Policy. He left just before the meeting was
announced. So all of the key people that state responsible
for the region are enacting or interim positions. But maybe
Mike Pompeo can change all of that. David. Oh, you're speaking
of
Mike Pompeo. Right. So the acting people would be SES.
Yeah, they'd
be SES. And they'd be very, very, very good at their jobs. I
mean, that's what they do this, they're proud and they get paid
a bonus and they get paid more than normal guy. So so this
whole chaos theory, which these guys promoted, this is rad. I
gotcha. But the fact that she said that, in that clip that she
know that she knows he's they all know Yeah. And so they're
given the public a crock of crap with all this nonsense about the
chaos when it's kids covered by the SES and
whoa, wait, I'm shocked. There's no chaos going on in there.
Oh, no. That's the reason an eye opener worked up.
I got you. Okay.
Well, yeah. And I'm also a little annoyed by any of our
listeners who listen to this and actually bought any of them.
Well, we got one more clip. Yeah, let's play. This is where
they were. They're claiming that they're, basically I'm open
check. bug and they're just spending like crazy on hookers
and blow ah so that
there are actually 10 different categories of being an SES
member and you get paid starting pay is the highest pay that
somebody makes in the government who's gone all the way through
the GS the general schedule up to 15 one to 15 They start at 15
and above in most cases because they are considered to be
professional executives who will come to save the day in the
government who the government bends over backwards for so that
they can pay them whatever so that they don't have to even
report whether they have a criminal record they
automatically get a top secret security clearance because
they're going to work in all these agencies they rotate
around there may not be and usually are not even executives
in the area that they are now in control of most of them are
appointed especially now since Obama's time because as you
pointed out from 2009 Obama's executive order expanded the
Senior Executive Service so they couldn't even be fired. So that
they are almost all independent. They all get a yearly raises
from a review board of the their subordinates. Okay,
you could have made the point without um yeah, I'm not
complaining too much. I thought there was gonna be some I
actually thought wow, this SES, they're killing people. They're
doing everything. And as it turns out,
it's this direction. I'm sorry, but the point is, I think that
and by the way, 10% by their own statues is the most that can be
appointed at any given time. Yeah, not 90 but I just found
the whole thing to be an annoyance I'm sorry that it was
it was probably could have been easier to do with just Hey is
bullcrap. And let's go on.
It's okay. It kind of works out with just showing. Well, I think
the Raddatz clip is what really makes it makes it you know, red
brings it home. It's like yeah, they know about it. They know
about the SES has been going on for a long time. But yet there's
chaos everywhere. Chaos. Just chaos. Now fired. Andrew McCabe.
Ha. It's just horrible. You know, people are let me just say
something about this. So McCabe is fired the three days before
he gets his pension. It's seen as a very incredibly mean move
horrible. I don't know exactly what the rules are. If you if
you're fired, if you know, you don't get any pension as to all
over. I think it's the wrong question. Yeah, how much he's
getting in pension? We're talking gotta be a lot. $1.8
million. What? Yeah. 1.8 million. That's his total
pension package total. Yeah. Well, how much is your a year?
No, of course not. But how much is your total pension package?
You got? Do you have one? Yep. Yeah, no, I don't have one. To
everyone's any of them got Andrea Mitchell's suggesting on
Twitter like well, you know, if some congressmen would hire him
for a few days, then it's happening. It's I know of course
it's happening. He said he has 18 million job offers in
Congress now.
Yeah, by a bunch of Democrats. Douchebag I should have said
good Julian I would have sounded more credible. Good Julian. He's
got to get I want to play I want to play another disingenuous
clip. This one here. This is McEntee you know, this guy was a
kind of a gofer for Trump that was always following him around
carrying put loads of books. He got fired and this is play this
clip makindye Fired
who I'm not sure who McEntee is from McEntee Yeah,
he got fired. He's he's one of the gophers you'll look him up.
He's like we get fired after hope got fired. It got less news
because it was less scandalous I guess. But they they still drop
a little bomb in here. That's nonsense. He's
Peter Alexander explains.
He was literally the man closest to the president Johnny McEntee
President Trump's personal assistant. His body man,
abruptly forced out of his post and escorted off the White House
should have just
said Trump's Houma than I would have understand once you hear
bodied man you understand it. If you ever thought of a Trump's
Reggie Love, I would have understood
but let's just in his body man, abruptly forced out of his post
and escorted off the White House grounds Monday. NBC News
confirming McEntee is under investigation by the Secret
Service for serious financial crimes. According to two federal
law enforcement officials his security clearance in limbo for
some time. According to one of the officials, the White House
wording using a comment on what a senior aide calls a personnel
issue. The 27 year old former college quarterbacks ousters
biggest thing with quarterbacks is that they can make all the
droves one month after the dismissal of top aide Rob Porter
accused of domestic violence allegations Porter denies
raising new questions about White House vetting process
tonight slammed as deficient by the top Democrat on the House
Oversight Committee.
Oh I see. This is this is teams Ivanka still going after Kelly.
That's what that's what this is all he hired another loser. You
got to get rid of you know, this stuff is so strong.
Yeah, he's gonna probably get rid of this guy. Of course, the
thing that bothered me But the report is this financial crimes
insinuate here
severe financial. You know what that was? I can't wait. gambling
problem ah, that is a problem, but to categorize this SEER as
severe financial crime, they say crimes.
Finance. Yeah, financial crime crime, that's not a crime.
But
he's if he's doing book if he's working with bookies or the DC
area he said he had a gambling problem. Yeah, he had a gambling
problem. When he's working with bookies, obviously, it makes it
a crime, but it's not a good look, that's for sure. But it's
not exactly when some guy he's a football ex football jock. I
mean, these guys all have a gambling problem. Now.
generalization. generalization is a little bit of a
generalization,
but a lot of do it because he likes to gamble. And so this is
a financial crisis because of selling some Wheeler Dealer on
Wall Street. Yeah, exactly. So he's a go to gopher nice, you
know that bets on football?
Well done. Yeah, it's just it's just framing, you know,
everything is framing, it's always framed in some way. And
it's just
know I made this thing. It's people. I mean, people are being
misled. I made the mistake of going to the no agenda subreddit
yesterday, because I hadn't looked at it in a couple of
weeks. And here's what I noticed. There's pretty much I
mean, it's dead. I mean, there's not much going on there. There's
pretty much three or four people. And they claim that they
were huge fans of the show before Trump got elected. And
then apparently, we completely changed everything. And, and
when I hear a clip like this, which Yeah, you could hear this
as we're defending Trump or his, his people or whatever, I think
was I really, I had a chat with myself. I said, self, have you
changed? It is now we're still
deconstructing media. It's just the media is batting for another
side and the media has changed. It certainly has. Yeah, the
media's gone nuts. And it's all anti in all we do is pick apart
their reporting, which is piss poor in most situations. And it
just turns out that most of the piss poor reporting is something
to do with Trump.
You know, Tina got got got snickered the other day, she's
busy. She works all day. She's running a running community
running all of Ronald McDonald House globally. That's what the
Dutch press reports. So you got to trust it. And yeah, she sends
me a text say, wait, no, McMaster fired. We have we
really do. I think we might have a clown in the White House. I'm
like, wow, first of all, not McMaster Kelly. Kelly fire so I
go look at it and I can't find anything because she had seen a
tweet that insinuated that I guess and she admitted her such
as oh my god it's just it's so there's so much coming in and I
think her environment may be dementia be there's so much
coming in because she slips you know, she slips and she uses the
clown reference. It was it was quite a moment.
You can't get away from it. We know
and she's smart.
You can't get away with him. I mean, he does the same thing she
falls prey to these things. I remember on Twitter somebody
sent because the the LIBS that are actually like that term. But
the LIBS who are the my friends there? Yes. All the and they
said weeks ago I
think your your journalist friends and you have text
messages or no law journal
libs, they have gone on and on about McMaster. Oh, McMaster is
gone. Why? He's still there. And then I get I said, I said
something on this show about it. But that time period, and then
somebody on Twitter sends a screenshot of a newspaper
headline. McMaster fired, right, two weeks ago, right? I'm
looking at this thing. I'm seeing it this is not somebody
what somebody like went to Photoshop to create this thing
and then pass it on to Twitter and then floats around and comes
back. And this guy's mocking me, because McMaster has been fired
and masters not fired. They might get fired someday. But
he's not fired. Now. In fact, there's a good day keep pushing
this. In fact, the thing I have a couple of clips, your play
that make master Kelly updates,
okay. Now, is he gone or not? I've lost track is McMaster
still Oh, he's not
gone.
White House. Talk today of another impending shakeup,
namely that President Trump plans to fire National Security
Adviser HR McMaster. It was widely reported that the
President has complained of McMaster lecturing him, and that
the two clashed over Iran and North Korea. But at today's
briefing, White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said
it's much ado about nothing.
The President said that wasn't not accurate, and he had no
intention of changing that they had a great working relationship
and he looked forward to continue working with him. I've
actually spoke to a number of staff this morning, reassuring
them that there were personnel changes. No immediate personnel
changes at this time that people shouldn't be concerned.
Meanwhile, the Wall Street Journal reported that Mr. Trump
and his chief of staff John Kelly, have reached a truce of
their own after months of tensions.
Oh, have you given him the Trump kiss of death yet?
No, here's the thing about it. They make this stuff up. You
know, they used to have good sources in the White House now
that having to do is pretty sketchy. So they're making this
stuff up. And it doesn't come to be so they make up another
story. That is the truth. Yeah, we could do the same thing.
Well, we now we understand there's a truce. I just found
the whole thing is like, Kelly's out, he's going he's gonna get
fired any minute. We've got it on good authority from people in
the know. Javon. That doesn't happen, you know, turns out they
made a truce. When the whole thing is built. bullcrap.
There's no truce. I didn't make a truce with your Chief of
Staff. Are you having a fistfight or you're, you're
bombing each other. And that's a truce.
I had a crazy clip that dads want to hold on a second had one
of those outrageous. Oh, yeah, hold on a second. Here it is.
Listen to this from the Don Lemon show. He is the overnight
sensation. You know, caves counsel, the
former DOJ inspector is called Michael Bromwich. And here's
what he says he blasted the process that led to McCabe's
firing in a statement saying, this distortion of the process
begins at the very top with the President repeated offensive
drive by Twitter attacks on Mr. McCabe.
I can't I can't let that pass drive by Twitter attacks. I
mean, that's pretty good. That's really given that stolen
from Rush Limbaugh. No, I don't listen to it. But he didn't use
it for Twitter, use it for the media. They called it the drive
by media,
right. But to say drive by, I mean, what is this? He's driving
by in his limo and like, tweet, tweet, tweet.
He's very easy to treat very thuggish.
There's a lot. There's some extra hate going on. We have
some more hate on religion.
This is all before you go there. I want to get the McMaster
thing. Just one more curiosity here. Play this peculiar clips.
Both ways McMaster. She said in
the army, with the president now actively discussing possible
replacements, according to sources familiar with the
matter. former ambassador,
sources familiar with
the matter? Yeah. Yeah, they know what they're talking about
any collusion the sources
familiar with the matter, including former ambassador to
the UN, John Bolton's from the White House insisting McMasters
job is safe. And I spoke
directly to the President last night, he asked me to pass that
message along to General McMaster.
Yeah, you're right there. Now he hasn't is Trump's in the White
House. I guess he's done in Florida. He would have a meeting
with McMaster every day. And he probably talked to him at least
daily. So why would he be passing that message along to
McMaster that he's not fired? I don't know.
Well, it makes no sense. Listen
to what this is. But this little thing he would pass that message
along is, is kind of taken out of context is that all I ever
hear is just as he asked me to pass that message along
with oh, now it's passing it on to him. That's what they're
saying.
to McMaster. Hmm, it's just this is very poorly done. I mean, I
know that these guys are in a bind, because they got everyone
getting fired, including Ben Carson. I think a lot of these
guys want to just,
you know, Ben Carson never made sense to me at all, and
Carson Mays, and Ben Carson is like he's got other thing. He I
think he's one of these things. He goes in and looks around but
also a doing here. You know, as
I've been, I've been mainly watching MSNBC, CNN is very
unwatchable. You know, I'll watch Jake and I'll watch Aaron
Bernat. But it reminds me of MH 17. When mh 17 went down, I
think it was 18 months that every single second of CNN
certainly and MSNBC was about the plane. I remember we marked
a year and we were already cheese. It's been a year since I
think disappeared. And you know this is to say this all they do
is just repeat, rinse, repeat. Go over and over. Come up with
something new paid on stuff. If you've ever seen the Stephanie
rule on MSNBC.
I don't think so.
Stephanie rule and Ali Velshi. They're all Yeah, Ali. Yeah,
they do mid mornings, mid mornings. Yeah, I
see. I've seen this show. Yeah, ah, there's just everything and
MSNBC is really poor.
Larry Kudlow did Ayman jabbers pointed it out on Twitter just a
few moments ago. If you notice when Larry Kudlow spoke on CNBC
yesterday. He ended by saying, however things work out, it will
be God's will. That's an interesting way to talk about
the national econd Tomic advisor to the president God's will.
We're going to talk to you all about this guy Larry Kudlow,
President Trump's new pick to be the top economic adviser.
This will be the challenge for Larry Kudlow, because in the
position that he's in now he has to stand there and represent
real data.
Right. But the fear is he may stand there and represent the
President in the face of real data.
Well, it's was Larry Kudlow says it's God's will.
Why does he think it's okay to do that? It just doesn't seem
smart to me. There's gotta be people who are believers who
watch your show. It's just mocking faith.
I don't know. I don't get it. And I don't know why they turn
on Kudlow is one of their own. He's on the he's NBC. They even
call him one of our own
one of our own. They is he is one of their own. And but why
would they turn on him because
ultimate sin ultimate sin go work for Trump. Exactly. This
thing, it seems like a really good really good choice to me.
If you want some guy to just say average interest rate. That's
the guy you want. What else is he for? We never heard theory
call and
see, the logic is this. These guys are badgered. And most of
these jobs are glorified bullcrap jobs and as the staff
does most of the work most of the SES people. And so this is a
glorified your frontman, like a lot of magazines has have an
editor in chief who doesn't do anything but represent the
company. And the editor does all the work, the editor in chief
just goes out there and manages the editor and some other
people. But generally speaking, they're out there. They're the
face of the company. And so Trump's thinking or somebody's
thinking good. Kelly's obviously involved in this. Let's get some
front people who actually can can speak on television and know
what they're doing because they've been on television.
They're used to it, they understand that it can read from
a prompter even better than Trump can. And let's just just,
there's got to be a few of them. And because many of them were in
government service before and then they couldn't find another
job because he can't get back into government with a new
administration. So they go work on TV, and they get there. They
get pretty good at talking.
Yeah. Funny how we went exactly the opposite direction. After
our career was over, we went to podcasting. Even get on cable?
No, it couldn't get well. We can't get on cable with this
material.
I think the best that I heard this this past week about the
firings and chaos and everything going on, came from Malcolm
Nance. He's a contributor on MSNBC. He really he really just,
you know, perfectly put it all into perspective for dementia.
They had a four point plan for how KGB operations propaganda
and agents were to operate against both the CIA and United
States law enforcement. First one was to use activities that
would demoralize discredit, or or dis inform about their
operations, then they would go after individual agents, then
they would go after their leadership. Donald Trump is
literally playing by the Russian playbook on this. I've you know,
I joke from time to time that it appears that there's like some
Russian advisory team in the White House. He's learned this
on his own. He understands that there's value in doing this, but
what he's doing is he's completely dismantling law
enforcement. But he plays that little trick where he says, but
I'm not talking about the line officers of the FBI. I'm just
talking about your corrupt leadership. This is the corrupt
leadership that took us through 911 This is the quote unquote
corrupt leadership that caught spies and other agents in this
country that helps us capture terrorists every day. If there's
a terrorist attack tomorrow, they will all be leaning on
those same FBI officers and trying to use them to protect
this nation. This is a disgusting this disgrace that
Donald Trump would allow this to happen but he's engineering
it's he's he literally literally is working off the Russian
playbook makes Nothing
makes him let's get somebody this reminds me of the George
Bush era where either George Bush was this unbelievable
deceitful, conniving, evil genius now
you mean Walker? The original or the No, no, no,
your second Bush, okay. I'll
be a bush Yeah, kid, a moron.
He was either right. He was either a moron or a conniving,
evil genius. Because they had to, they couldn't like you know,
make him into a real person. So they had these stereotype
opposites. And he was either a moron or this evil genius and
they never could make up their minds. And you we did a during
the show, we were just hearing one thing or the other that had
to do with Bush being portrayed, you know, as something he's not.
But this is what with Trump you get out to make up your minds
either a big me an oath clown as your as a teenager would have
it. Yeah. Or he is a Russian spy a sneaky bastard, Manchurian
Candidate, Manchurian Candidate all these other things. So we
have a great mix
today from think GX to put it together of the list that you
read. You read the other day. Oh, that's good. Yeah, it's
good. It's good for me to show mix.
Yeah. All right. So I have the one that when there's a we could
transition. Well, I
have. Well, I'd like to take a break. I do have one last clip
regarding Tillerson. And this was actually spurred on by
Horowitz, of the DHS unplugged show. He tweeted, I know he sent
us an email, which you probably didn't see, because I'm sure you
don't read emails from either of us, like Oh, jesus podcast,
guys. I'll read that later. Podcast podcast, guys. Well,
whatever. This is from Tillerson says goodbye speech
for the safety and security of our State Department personnel.
Yeah. Accountability,
a stop Hold on. This is was horror was his pet peeve,
because he was given telling me about this. And it doesn't end
the last show, when I had the Tillerson clip. I was digging
through it to get this. And I couldn't find it. And I just
gave up on it. And I'm glad you brought it back. So use
countability,
which means treating each other with honesty and integrity and
respect for one another. Most recently, in particular, to
address challenges of sexual harassment within the
department.
So I found some information on this holy crap. Okay, this is,
so there's an article on cnn.com. And it's an interview
with Ambassador Leslie Bassett. And she was let me see Foreign
Service officer in Nicaragua. But the whole article is just
and I think a lot of it also comes from the cover story for
Foreign Service journal, which is a publication from the
American Foreign Service Association. I mean, this
ambassador, this talk, there's orgies, all kinds of nutty stuff
going
on. And forgive me if I'm wrong as a Trump.
No, I would think that a lot of these people are still Obama,
people, because we have I know we have a lot of open spots.
But number of years back during the Obama administration with
the scandals about the Secret Service, partying,
yes. Oh, you're partying with hookers and all kinds of
workers? Yeah. Okay, go on. Oh, well, you
really have to read the article. I mean, it just she just has
story after story about harassment in the workplace.
Stay again, sticking tongs in mouse is my favorites. Like, I
mean, whoever does that work for anybody? If I went up to T, and
I'm like, Hey, baby. Nene, I'm sure What are you doing? It's
not a good approach. Blue is a good approach. It just doesn't
work. For fiscal year 2017 483 reports of harassment in the
State Department 225 of which included claims of sexual or
gender based harassment so that's just being mean. But
there's some real physical stuff and I'd like to know more about
it What the heck is going on in our State Department? And was
there anything who does? Maybe not but this Tillerson is firing
have anything to do with it? He Why does he bring this up? Is
this just to say oh, you know, we got a lot of work to do
that this was the yeah this would horror horror. Which is
thing was was what is that because he says this was just
dropped out? It was it was no one no one falls dropped into
this speech as a toss away.
I mean, we know about the the nutty ambassador in Brussels.
Now. There was all kinds of shenanigans going on with him.
And Hillary protected him. Yeah, when she was running the joint.
Oh, it's just like, wow, that was kind of unexpected. Then I
of course, I didn't hear any
of this no stamps from the Hillary and then the Kerry
administration and and maybe before then,
you know, those guys, um, this will be this will be my absolute
last clip before we take a break. The author of Clinton
cash is coming out with a new book. And I think we were
talking at the time of the Ukraine issues with my Dawn and
you know, if the EU and Victoria Nuland was over there, and
everyone's, you know, setting up the government to make it as
anti Russian as possible, putting the people in there, the
Secretary of the Treasury or finance, whatever they call it,
and Ukraine became a citizen overnight, to give her passport,
but now you can be in the government. You're good and
she's just one of ours. We knew that Joe Biden's kid was doing
something with oil in Ukraine. You remember that?
Oh, yeah, I could of course. Oh, Remember that no big deal seems
like it's a little deeper than that. The story
is, as you said, the stepson of John Kerry, the son of Joseph
Biden, when they were Cabinet members of the Obama
administration created a new investment fund called Seneca,
they inked a billion dollar deal with the Chinese government, the
Bank of China, and then together proceeded This is just one
example, to buy a US manufacturing company called
Hennings that was making very sensitive equipment crucial to
our our American military here at home. This is potentially one
of the biggest pay for play scandals we have ever seen
outside of Uranium One.
How about this? What if Tillerson wanted to get out? I
mean, remember, he was hyperventilating? I watched the
speech again, I think you're right. I think he was
hyperventilating. He probably if if he was fired, I think he
would have been more detail. I think he found something out. I
think he found out something going on the State Department.
He wants no part of it. And he wanted out. And he wanted out
quick. You hear this kind of stuff? Who knows what else is
going on inside of the State Department?
Well, he did drop that little bombshell in there. And it was
done on purpose. Yeah. And only horror was picked it up. Which
is the news media. Sure. I didn't know. But in the news, I
don't see any of these reports that you're talking about now.
And so he's and he was hyperventilating. And when
you're hyperventilating it. There's always a reason for it.
Yeah. I don't know what the specific reason was, but he was
very upset and wouldn't mention Trump. Everyone call him out on
that. That was the main focus. Oh, you never mentioned Trump.
He never mentioned Trump. As though he's, you know, I know
what he didn't mention Trump. Okay. No second. And he goes off
and he you might be right he was fired though. Maybe he didn't
want to die. I don't know this. There is a missing piece. sangri
we're missing some pieces of information. Drop that little
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Maybe he is talking when he does that?
No, I mean, no. I mean, like, hello, I'm a goat talk.
Well, I gotta tell you the amount of people I see talking
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Yes, this is a guy and I see Yeah. Oh the diaper. Oh cheese.
That's really bad. I'm sure the dog doesn't appreciate it. We
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We just had a South by Southwest or is the hip kids call it South
by South bar here in Austin, Texas. I would like to before we
get even into that we had the south by bomber which is what
I'm calling it and with good reason. For now this was very
surprising to me and completely incorrect. This is from the
statement Austin statesman seen as a very prestigious newspaper
reporting on the bombings here you've heard about them for
investigators are raised to decode hidden message in Austin
bombings. And here's what they came up with. I hate to say it
even if the package bombs that have killed two Austin residents
and seriously injured a third in recent weeks turn out to be the
work of a single person he or she will join a tiny but grim
fraternity serial killers whose weapon of choice was an
incendiary device. The group is so small that police and
psychologists effort to draw meaningful conclusions about its
members has been met with uneven success. An FBI profile of the
Unabomber identified him as an uneducated man in his 30s or
40s, who probably worked menial jobs. But Ted Kaczynski was a 53
year old hermit, who heads who held several advanced college
degrees. So they go through this article, insinuating that this
is very much like the Unabomber. The thing you're missing is the
manifesto that he said he wanted published in the New York Times
and The Washington Post and he would blow people up until they
did which they ultimately did. Did you miss that statesman? No,
I'm a little worried. You
know, a Hummer wrote that. Yeah, a little worried.
Now let me look, I talked about Professor Ted all the time.
Maybe they want to check on
me. No, they probably already have.
Anyway, at South bias where you can get informed on all things
hip, cool, new trendy, and what's really going to blow up
is going to explode, we'll be dropping. It's all here. We'll
be dropping Well, Generation Z is what's dropping baby.
Generation Z Generation Z. Yes. And MSNBC did a nice sit down
interview with Tiffany Zong, as she is the CEO of zebra
intelligence. It reminds me a lot of when the internet just
started and we go to Reebok and we say use zero
intelligence. Yeah.
And we say you need a website. Like yeah, I guess we do all the
hip kids are doing it. Yes, you do. You need a website. And
that's going to be $150,000 to build it and then thanks $2,000
a month maintenance. That's one of these consultant types. Yeah,
that's a good business to be in, if you can keep it if you can
find enough suckers.
Well, she found them at South by no doubt, but I thought we would
listen in to understand a little bit about what it means. And in
this context, or maybe all context, it's only about
advertising. Because that's what South buy is about. How can we
make money with that? How can we monetize
eight interrupt you again, but we have probably half of our
audience can throw together a much better website than any of
these consultants can
did you look at Zebra intelligence? Is that what
you're looking at?
No, I'm gonna do now, as you mentioned, but I reminded of the
fact that the DH I'm plugged website, which is nice website
was actually done by Nick the rat. Anything's possible. It
takes possible.
So Generation Z Now, our ad girl who has to go on name she, I
think I forwarded you this really long analysis, which came
from deep inside from deep ad for the DT advertising state.
Yes, she's the one who got us in to discuss this in the first
place. Yeah.
And, you know, we learned a couple of kids read it. Yeah.
Well, what did you think? Were there any takeaways for you?
Well, yeah, I think so. She does have a well, the takeaway to me
is that there is that the advertising, business wishes and
executive, I believe, is really on to the Generation Z
operation. And I have some thoughts on that, because I've
realized, I've talked about this at the dinner table the other
night. Of course, it makes nothing but sense. But it's a
spectrum, from Z to millennial and on me, because it turns out
that Jay, who was born in 94,
doesn't like being called a millennial. And she doesn't
seem to care one way or the other, to be honest about it.
But she has more characteristics of the z's. And I have lists
here, which I I printed out of different characteristics that
these two groups have,
well as it pertains to making money off of them, because
that's what South by is about? How do we make money off of the
schlubs? How can we make money off of the children? And and do
we have an age range definition for Generation Z? Because it's
certainly not at
the border. 95 is the is the digit changes, by the way
different people define it differently. But born in 95, is
generally the accepted definition born in 95, or later.
So is
Generation Z really defined by age or by something else? I'm
just asking, because I don't know.
Whether there's a theory going around that everybody's defines
their generations, I just came up with a table because JC of
course, was killed Jr. thinks the whole thing is bull crap.
And there's no such thing as any of these generations in modern
terms. And he then he refers back to somebody in the 1910s,
who wrote something about this. And so they did kind of derailed
the conversation.
Let's try this for a second. Go ahead. Yes. So he
anyway, so there's a defining moments in each generation and
JC claims that his defining moment was I forget what it was,
I think it was viewed. Columbine was his defining moment. And
he's 30. So that people who said in that clip, we played a couple
of shows ago that said that Oh, good. Our parents defining
moment was World War Two. And ours was Columbine, she wasn't
even born when Columbine took place. Right? So that was
somebody planted that bullcrap into
this will be worth it. Generation Z, or Gen Z, also
known as I generation post Millennials or the homeland
generation, which I like a lot is the demographic cohort after
millennials. Currently, there are numerous numerous additional
competing names used in connection with them in the
media, which is why bring it up, we deconstruct it. There are no
precise dates for when this cohort starts or ends, but
demographers and researchers typically use the mid 1990s to
mid 2000s, as starting birth years. At the present time,
there's little consensus regarding ending birth years.
Most of Generation Z have used the interwebs since a young age
and are generally comfortable with technology and with
interacting on social media. Wow, great skills. Well, it can
operate on
Twitter, I would I would dispute that as being even important.
I'm just you know, it's the book of knowledge. You know, how can
you how can you dispute it?
So let's listen by I'm sorry, go on. Go. No, go ahead. I was
gonna say going by some marketing newsletters which are
and you're our, our, our, our advertising person is in this
category ad group being concerned about how to sell
stuff. Yeah. Here is the shortlist some of the lists of
Generation Z as some of their characteristics. From a
newsletter that's, I think, stole This material got this
deal they borrowed it 34% Want brands to reach out to them on
social media followed by 33% by email and 28% by online ads 27%
when advertising to include celebrities or athletes 50%
would look on their phone would look on their phone to look for
a better price while shopping at a retail store. Now, I think the
buyer experience
everybody's doing that doesn't seem like just the Generation Z
thing.
63% are concerned when it comes to protecting their identity.
This is good news. When paying with a credit card or online at
a retail store 92% of Gen Z own or plan to own a vehicle, and
97% have or plan to get a license. This is different than
the millennials who have assumed Well, autos and
it's also not exactly what this consultant says, of Generation
Z. In fact, quite the opposite.
38% try to use rewards every time they shop 46% value special
offers 61% Researchers when they car one came from this could be
both bogus because the source for it is Kelley Blue Book 61%
researches products on a mobile phone at least weekly 93% of
parents say their Gen Z kids influenced family spending
decisions.
Yes, okay. There's some of that. Here's one, here's No, no, no,
no stop. Some of that correlates. But now let's just
listen to the clips. And then you can look at it and see if it
correlates with what is in AD girls documentation, we start
off with a little background. And again, this is only about
making money off the kids, you
are Gen Z you dropped out of college, you started your own
company, and your company talks to brands about how to reach
people just like you and Generation Z. So tell me what
are what are some of the big things you tell brands who want
to get it to sell to someone like
you, the biggest thing is that Gen Z grew up on their
smartphones and on social media. So they can see through the BS
very quickly. They will immediately skip through ads,
they are just in tune with identifying what's an ad and
what's not. And that that's why people have to or brands have to
have more native ads and UGC,
more native ads, ie trick them. Because they're onto the bull
crap they can see it's an ad but if you trick them with a native
ad where you don't tell them then it works. Nice. Sure it
does. I'm very nice.
infer that works for everybody. Sure. In by the way, the
millennials had had a bit of an arrogance, similar style about
ads, we can see through that we're not bull crap, like those
dummies before it's those dummies who came before us that
believe every advertisement they see, yeah,
it's just an ad man. Why are you even looking at that story? If
it was native, then you would have not known? How about those
influencers?
influencers? Right, who get paid it does the BS button go up for
that, or now
Gen Z can easily identify if it's like a product placement or
even, or sponsorship, and FTC is cracking down on making sure
that the influencers are showing that it's a sponsored post great
and so kids obviously can see through that some influencers
who don't have the right partnerships, and just try to
make as much money as possible, will have will build a very poor
brand over the years because fans are going to see that
they're just selling out but you
feel like if a brand partners with the right influencer, even
if they're paying them that that might get through,
yes. 100% But a lot of brands don't know how to find the right
influencers, like what Pepsi did with Kendall Jenner, and how
that had a lot of controversy because it was out of the Pepsi
mission as well as candles and so it just didn't work. Right.
So you have some you have
to really be careful that whatever you're doing is sort of
true is authentic. I hate Yes.
It has to be authentic. Yes. So somehow if you if you pay
someone this is really interesting to me, if you pay
someone like wear my clothes in your Instagram, and don't say
anything, then when you get found out you're dead and the
brand is dead, they'll never sell it another thing ever. But
if you have the right influencer, who would probably
be some vapid, douche woman you know, with the same old selfie
over and over again hey guys look at some fantastic look at
this great thing I got then it's okay. Which is it's it is new.
But you have to have the right influencer with the right
message with the right brand at the right time. I'm pretty sure
you can hire those guys to get exactly that.
Well, you know, this wasn't this should not be unexpected. This
is if you look at all the bold crap that we were fed 20 Oh, 15
years ago during the tech cycle was going around, this was all
predicted. It was all predicted that we're going to be looking
at, you know, besides the fake ads and people remember, there
was all this interactive TV moment where they said, well,
while you're watching a TV show and you see a really nice
sweater, you just look at the sweater. Click on flick. Well,
yeah, look at her click on it. Yeah, if she had eyeball
tracking, you could look at it but that is that's what that the
Microsoft
that was the promise. was the promise at some point. Yeah,
yeah,
it was was the promise you look at it, and boom, that shows up.
You get an email about it
on Instagram, it actually works that way. It you'll see, you'll
see a picture and then you can swipe up and then it'll take you
right to the to the page to buy that product. So yeah, it's
working that way. Yeah, you just have to you have to have the
right influencer. Now.
They you know, that's another thing I wonder about that
because it seems to me if somebody's not the quote
unquote, right influencer, but they're wearing something cool.
That would be more important, because it's just something cool
that you'd want. And it will who cares about who's wearing well,
but she also offered a very question this right influencer
notion she
she offered a very sketchy example. You know, Kendall
Jenner was not on her Instagram promoting Pepsi. It was a lame
ass protest video that where she gave the COP of Pepsi. It was it
was an ad, it was a proper ad, it was a big budget, it was a TV
ad had nothing to do with your budget, you're right had with
her being an influencer, it was just her doing a dumb ad, which
was uncomfortable to watch. The creative was a piece of crap
from the beginning. But more importantly, aesthetics, John is
all about us. This, this is the p this is really the meat of
what's going on with Generation Z, and how you can get them to
come to your establishment or your product, etc. It's all
about aesthetics, that
also then about always having something that is worth a photo,
right, if they're gonna come to something, you better make sure
you have something fun, because they will put that out to the
world for you.
Exactly. So another thing I tell brands is that Gen Z optimizes
for going to things that are aesthetic first, that's how they
think. Any restaurants they go to cafes, they go to even
destinations for vacation or travel. It's all optimized
around how is this going to look on my gram on my Instagram or
Snapchat? Is it going to be amazing and or my think in terms
of optimizing for photos that the fans and followers will like
versus for personal experiences. And that's also tied to the fact
that Gen Z cares more about experiences than products and
cars and stuff like that?
Stopstopstop back it up? Yeah. Because she says this more about
the places than they experience and then she says they care
about experiences make your mind total horse crap. But I know No,
I don't care about the horse crap part. Make up your mind
isn't one or the other. She says two contradictory things. That's
what I'm saying that is horse crap. She said she contradicted
herself. Yeah, we'll play
it back. It's very amusing. And then she does it right at one
bank banks. Yes. Yeah.
So two things. I completely believe this to be 100% True,
100 emoji, I want to go to that place. And because it'll look
good on my gram nice. It looked good on my gram to show
everybody that I'm here. And then she contradicts herself and
says something else like versus
for personal experiences. And that's also tied to the fact
that Gen Z cares more about experiences, then products and
cars and stuff like that. So that's a huge shift in these
luxury brands and how they're going to market to this younger
generation when they care more about experiences and renting
stuff instead of owning stuff.
Okay, so that contradicts ad girls report. They're saying we
want experiences and renting stuff. Which is why you know,
you got Uber and you got Airbnb and all these things. They'd
like to rent something for an experience I think that's I
think that's true. I don't think I don't see any certainly not
automobiles, kids the kids is less kids driving than ever he
said without any data to back it up. But I liked it I liked the
aesthetics it has to look good on your gram otherwise why the
hell go so you got to have a moment some backdrop or
something that's going to look good on the gram. Are you still
with me Johnny follow slime yes
thing if some of this i This is a lot of contradictory
information here. Not sure that they were really pinning it down
very well.
While she's the expert, she was at South by What are you talking
about? Are you crazy? So this is the the final clip is about
influencing purchasing. And this was really all telling about
Generation Z
every week, every month you have to keep iterating and a big
problem with a lot of The brands is that they think that they
want to understand Millennials are have purchasing power. And
they want to target Millennials right now. And they care less
about Gen Z. But Gen Z is growing really fast. And it's
tail end of college kids are about to graduate from college.
They have their own purchasing power because they have side
hustles and learn how to make money very quickly on the
internet.
Okay, what side hustles? Are the kids doing these days to make
money on the internet besides the obvious webcam, girls? I
mean, really? Patreon Oh, donate to my Patreon, I did a nice
crochet. Where's these highs? Where are these side? hustles on
the internet that kids know how to make money quickly with these
days?
Well, I mean, there's Etsy, okay, she's a side hustle. But
there's no buddy making much money
off of it. Well, apparently, the kids know how to side hustle. I
don't think
so. I have kids in this group more or less, and I'm not seeing
them. Finish it.
And it's tail end of college kids are about to graduate from
college, they have their own purchasing power because they
have side hustles and learn how to make money very quickly on
the internet. As well as the fact is that they have influence
over their family and parents is purchasing power. So that's also
a fallacy where people brands think that Gen Z doesn't have
money.
It sounds to me like they don't have money.
But that money will save. That's a fallacy. She
says a fallacy. They have money. And the parents do whatever they
tell them to they just do a high side hustle. I think I think
it's time for South by Southwest to end it has jumped the shark
with this. But I do have one last analysis of Gen Z slash
young people from Mike Rowe. I'd never heard him talk about this.
But it kind of dovetails in with the the book that we were
talking about a couple shows ago lost connections, how important
it is for people to have satisfaction in their life
satisfaction at their job being around other people all
important things that we're not doing anymore. And I was maybe
not surprised. But when you hear him, and this is the Dirty Jobs
guy, he's the guy who, who goes around and looks at blue collar
jobs, I guess would be appropriate.
That was what that was used to be his main show he I don't know
what he does now. Wow.
Well, he appears on Tucker and talks about it. Do you
think that we value work as an inherent virtue as a society?
No, no, I don't, I think I think that we have identified work as
the proximate cause of our dissatisfaction. And I think you
don't have to look far to find endless examples. Look, the best
selling books right now in the Self Help section and in
general, claim to have the solution for how you can work
less, most of the commercials on TV, ask a tacit question, you
know, how could you be happier? And the answer, of course, is
retire a little sooner or work 35 instead of 40 hours, you
know, the TV shows that are typically valued, tend to
embrace notions of shortcuts. You know, in 1000 different
ways. I believe, as a society, we've made the case that the
enemy of your happiness is your damn job. And if you can only
have less of that, all these other things in some perverse
zero sum game would equal out and you would smile more. Look
at I know it's hackneyed. And I know we've talked about it
before, but this is Horatio Alger stuff, this is being
suspicious of, of of immediate gratification. It's taking the
long view. And most importantly, in my view, you know, we can
control how we define a good job. There's a lot of stuff we
can't control. But our culture has made it very, very clear
that some kinds of work are less desirable than others. And once
we set the table that way, then we start to look at some kinds
of education as being more important than others. Next
thing you know, you got $1.5 trillion in student loans.
You've got 6 million jobs available right now that involve
training and not a four year degree. And you've got a whole
generation of kids who are nicely educated for jobs that
don't exist anymore. With a big fat pile of debt. They can't pay
back because we lent them a bunch of money we didn't have in
the first place.
Nice. Nice wrap up Mike. Yeah, kind of wrapped it up. That was
good. Very good.
But I when I was listening to this, I thought to myself, you
know, whenever there's kids protesting and getting pissed
off and mad, it's never the kids from the trade school.
That's a good one. That's a good observation, a good catch.
And what is the only difference?
case go gets probably a reasonably good job. Well, he's
other kids don't. But
also the kids who are at the trade school are taught
different things. They're not taught equality, victimhood,
etc. They may be, but I would say they're probably being
taught a trade you come in, you'd learn your trade. So there
is so it really points more towards the education system.
Yes, which is what I think one of the themes of
our show in the millennial who sent this to me who self
identified and he said, Yeah, this is really great. What Mike
Rowe says, Hey, you should check it out. But, you know, if I
could make any money in a blue collar job, I would not consider
it. Did you hear the show? We talked about what you can make
as a train construction worker. And you hear I mean, you can
make real money with blue collar jobs, mainly because of supply
and demand of workforce. Well, there's
a lot of $150 an hour jobs I can cite that around here. Such as
because well any any those guys who work on that content giant
crane at the at the wharf that picks up the cargo containers
and moves it over to a truck and drops it on there. That's 150
Minimum an hour.
I'm just looking. I'm just looking at the at the troll
room. $40 an hour as a house painter. I'm a blue collar job.
I earn a six figure income that you guys should be donating more
what's wrong with you? Yeah, really? $320 A Day Cash. There's
tons of I have an effing BA degree and I'm a house painter.
Okay. All right. trolled? Well, you saved yourself. This is good
news. Yeah. 25 an hour is a great accountant. podcasters
though massive fail. Somehow. There's no salaries. It's no
blue collar. I'm wearing my wife beater. I don't have a blue
collar on. But we have a new name for them. John, new name
for these kids and
if your child is off from school today, also reminder about
something called Tech neck. Apparently it's turning
millennials into a bunch of hunchbacks. It's all in today's
family matters. New studies show that people in their 20s now
have back problems as then as people double their age.
Smartphones, tablets and other personal devices are likely
responsible. So if you are home from work or school today,
planning to spend some time on your phone or device, you'll
definitely want to hear this Dr. Brian Wallace, a chiropractor
based in Bernardsville says he is witnessing this epidemic at
his practice. And he says it couldn't get worse because
children are getting cell phones at a younger age. Experts
recommend limiting screen time and also a variety of yoga and
back stretches to alleviate some of the pain.
I liked the term technique. I'd like it a lot. Techniker Yeah,
well, you call someone a redneck with your technique, technique,
technique technique. I like it.
We'll just call them Techmakers from now on.
Well, there's the guy who wrote you that note with the clip.
That just disconcerning that he said what he said because it's
programming I'm sure I brought myself up through school. I
didn't have debts or nothing. I was always doing well because I
worked at assembly lines that were the steel mills, I worked
at sheetmetal shops, all union jobs generally, and all paid
very well. As opposed to the summer jobs that you'd normally
college kid in high school. And I was also working in high
school you could do that in the summer in high school too. When
they because it was easier to get jobs, generally speaking,
but when the opportunity gives itself or shows it self I don't
see why anyone would just say not I'm not gonna take that job
is beneath me, which I think is what that kid was saying. That
blue collar work for a lot of people is beneath them because
they've been given all the self esteem and all the bullcrap in
the schools now, and they don't they won't take these jobs. They
were for some reason, even though they pay well. Let me 40
bucks an hour is a lot better than 10 were nothing or nothing
or a site
or a side hustle on the internet, which I still got to
figure out. Yeah. Side Hustle. All right, well, I think we'd be
dead. Yeah, we have. I want to make mention that the back page
bill. Ah, this is the
opening of deep concern, especially now that we're
dealing with these. What do they call the inclines? What is? What
is that word for the dorks dork? Sorry. The dorks that can't get
laid. They're young and they call their podcasters. No,
besides the podcast, can't get laid is the kids who are was it
out man it's called incline incline. It's something that to
term. It's a phrase. I volunteer sorry
Oh in cells in cell in cells thank control room in cells yeah
involuntary celibate involuntarily celibate Yes.
The little movie going around this quite entertaining. I
haven't got any clips from it but it's quite far send it to
me. These kids are it's on Vimeo too it's a they're bitching and
moaning I you know I can't get laid I'm cuz I'm ugly and he cuz
you know the guy's kids not really that bad looking. It's
just that he's got a bad attitude,
right? Yeah.
I can't believe any of these dumb chicks will fuck me because
I'm ugly. That's the reason no, no, you're not. It's not the
reason why we're rare F
bomb. Well, the Senate is now higher wasn't
actually an F bomb. That was the use
was a quote you should have an air quotes, as the Senate is
likely to pass this bill, which is now known as quoting, quote,
limiting website's immunity in sex trafficking cases. I hear me
now believe me later. This is the beginning of The Real Net
Neutrality, which means illegal or unlawful content. That's what
it will be called. We'll do the unlawful network traffic next,
but this is the start unlawful traffic, unlawful content.
That's the exact wordage awful content
uture users get ready for this? Yeah, Tor is going to be banned.
It should just be banned as a as a protocol. Well, when they get
to the traffic, it's nificant. Spot Tor.
Yeah. But that's only when they get to the this this bill does
not can contain the unlawful traffic. That's the part they
really need to get in. But they start with unlawful content.
Yeah. And without Without this, and there are all kinds of laws
that prohibit this already. But no, we have to have an extra
law. And this is the one thing as we've been deconstructing
this over the past couple of episodes where it came from the
one thing that really helped the Internet to grow to where it is
today. And sadly, it also gave us this false belief that the
only place to be social is face bag or Twitter or Insta on your
grant. You can't you can't do that anywhere else can't have
your own server can't do your own thing. It's impossible.
It's like to like the way you saved it. What Insta? You said
instead he said you said use your brain said shit is not
instance gram. And you did right and it was smooth as silk.
Thank you. But I have to mention that in the black community.
They say in stock, the hip, the hip hop or say Insta. And this
one was Asian from South by and she says gram.
I think it should be the gram,
the gram, the grams with plural may be even better.
Yeah, that sounds like your drug reference. So which it is? Yes,
exactly. Have you been following this? Speaking of face bag, this
bogus reporting that started off with Facebook failed millions of
users data stolen, harvested by Trump campaign. Follow any of
that? No,
I fell I didn't even hear about it until now.
This is fantastic. And of course, now we have to it's the
recycled news. Again, we have to come back to Cambridge Analytica
because somehow they cheated and had better analytic cars than
the the Democrats in the
Yeah, that's the recent Hillary loss. Yes.
Because Cambridge analytical Stole Stole 30 million users
data from face bag. And as it turns out, even face bag is
disputing the stolen things. And no, no, the guy made an app. It
did it according to all the guidelines. But then there was
one thing that he did, which wasn't in accordance with the
face bag, external app developer guidelines. And so we had this,
this data that he sucked out of. So yeah, in a way, they did
fail, but a little different than they stole this. And, you
know, they covertly put all the data into Cambridge Analytica,
and that's how Trump won. And I guess they gave this information
to the Russians, who then thought Ah, yes, this is very
good. I will use this after re election. Yeah, which is where
most of the money went from the Russians. After the election,
they spent all the money on telling people to vote for
Donald Trump. I don't know. But it's, once again, they're
contradicting themselves. And this is the latest face bag.
Latest privacy debacle stirs up more regulatory interest from
lawmakers. Yes. They really, really did. They really want to
regulate Facebook and I think Facebook should be regulated. I
think if you have to sign in. If you have to sign into something
you cannot access this information without signing in.
I think different rules should apply. Because you know Data is
the new big
how much is shutting it down? Wow be good idea. Shutter it see
what happens that'd be very interesting. Yes.
Okay, just some updates. You miss my slogan though data is
the new bacon.
It is new bacon. What is the what is this clip? I have here
that it days. Right that day. Thank you. It took them
a moment to eat is the new bacon. You sounded the way Tina
looked at me when I tried it on her she went. What data is the
new bacon like when you're proud of yourself? Yes, that's when
I'm when I'm beaming. It's the best.
Shut down investigation ABC.
Okay, let's do it.
The President's top attorney today calling for special
counsel Robert Muller's investigation to be shut down.
This just hours after deputy director Andrew McCabe was fired
just two days from retiring. The President taking to Twitter
where he has taunted McCabe in recent months. Mr. Trump's
allies say McCabe tried to undermine the president and
details now emerging that similar to his old boss, James
Comey, McCabe had detailed memos of all of his interactions with
the President, a source telling ABC News those documents are now
in the hands of the Special Counsel, ABC Tara Palmieri at
the White House tonight start us off
tonight and aggressive switches strategy from President Trump
legal team lead attorney John Dowd calling for an end to the
Russia investigation.
Tara Paul Mary if you ever get to see her. She is you look at
it. You go Ah, she has to be hired by Fox.
I want to take a look then. What's her name? Well, I
believe when you take a look. What's her name?
What's it what's her name? I forgot her name. Oh, Tara.
Tara, Tara T Ara. pelle, pelle, Pa l Mary of MI er, I think look
up Tara, Pelle Mary bikini. Go look into
John, is this what you do during shows during the in between show
days? You do first name last name.
I did it when I was taking this clip. Last night I saw her and I
said this. She looks like a Guilfoyle replacement.
I'm still a little disturbed. Oh, boy.
I see what you want. Here's who Okay, I'll tell you how I got to
the bikini thing.
I see what you mean though, because I take those glasses off
man, a whole new world. The reason
the reason I'll give you the genesis of this, because I'm now
using Bing. So when you use Bing, they give you this variety
of photos and that with different categories. And it
turns out that she has a huge bikini collection of photos
photo collection of her in a bikini. So you click on it just
to see. And but she's more telegenic than she is photogenic
so you should know that. And she's a perfect Fox contributor
she and she also suffers from a I've noticed it by listening to
her report because I'm used to listening to the ABC cadence and
her cadence is Fox. It's too fast. She talks too fast and
this is a she will not be at ABC for long because she talks too
fast and she looks and she looks like a fox girl and she sounds
like one
okay, we can we can look forward to that. In the meantime,
remember, you remember John search tip being it plus bikini
bring it bring it good. Bring it bring it up. biggest biggest
biggest plus bikini very nice. Again, go back to the clip
pressing Deputy Attorney General rod Rosenstein to tell Special
Counsel Robert Muller, case closed, downs motivation, he
says Rosenstein should follow the quote, brilliant and
courageous example of Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who hours
earlier fired deputy FBI director Andrew McCabe. He's one
of the first top level officials at the FBI to start looking into
the allegations that the Trump campaign coordinated with the
Russians during the election.
There's been no collusion between us and the Russians.
There was absolutely no collusion. There is absolutely
no collusion,
any collusion. I knew you do that.
How can I help myself? It's
I was gonna do it on the clip, any collusion. I just got it
right. And I said, you know, I wonder if Adam will just do it
after it keeps hearing this over and over. Good one. I've given
you kudos for that. Okay, any collusion? Okay. So, anyway, she
talks too fast. She's no good for this.
I understand. I understand. Well, we should you know, in our
curry Dvorak executive search firm function.
We need a reason we should get a finder's fee for putting some of
this stuff out
or you get a finder's fee for finding guy and to Chicon.
Yeah, so who's wrote us a tweet tweet, saying that she's had a
baby and she's Fine,
and did I not call it Did I not say she was probably having a
baby? I did you call it Christian did. And but of
course, so she says hey, I'm okay. I just had a baby.
Everything's fine. You you tweet back in obvious drive by tweet
attack. You tweet Oh yeah. Oh yeah, but how was she doing
else?
I don't know what I did yeah, I said something she sent me a
tweet was was to do Yeah. Okay yeah
call me he's coming out with his book
cool me promoting his book too
yeah it's already on on Amazon. Yeah What is it called again?
It's called something stupid.
No it's constant Mel snow
and oh, a higher loyalty, truth lies and leadership. Yeah. How
boring is that?
It can't be any
lies and leadership that you support the president's decision
then to fire his FBI director.
No, I do not call me Call me. Call me. Call me. Call me. Call
me Call me. Call me. You go Comey still hanging around. So I
had was he's got a book to push the house to hang around. So I
got another clip this about the fairings again but this was a
just a short clip in exchange between a couple of congress
people. A guy and a woman and they're talking about she's
asking about Japanese internment real legislation. I don't know
what she's talking about. And he says something in Japanese and
she corrects him. The news network never tells us what they
said I want some one of our listeners who speaks Japanese to
tell me what is what put on here
and in limbo HUD Secretary Ben Carson and the head of interior
Ryan thinking yesterday testing his Japanese when asked about
funding related to World War Two internment camps.
We see a fund that again in 2018 Well, konichiwa I think it's
still Ohayo gozaimasu but that's okay.
Wait a minute. Wait a minute. What? What what did he answer
Konishi? All I heard was Konichiwa.
Something could you sound like Konishi? Well, but I'm not sure.
And then she said something else. And then said that's okay.
Now there were she's insulting him in a Japanese manner. But
why don't they tell us what there was? What was the back and
forth here?
I don't know. This sounds I don't know,
played against the Japanese listener can tell us? Oh, pretty
sure. I think it's still Ohayo gozaimasu. But that's okay.
The so we got Oh, Konnichiwa.
Okay, well, what was the other thing? She said? What did she
say?
I can't I have no idea. I think I have to I don't?
Yeah, well, that's what I was just curious to know is the way
that reporting is on the TV is
terrible. I got Did you see Nancy Pelosi? About the border
wall? She's still alive. Yes. And she still is receiving the
meds? Kind of. We didn't report on it. Because God Why'd do it.
The President went to to the wall sections to see which of
the wall pieces of the Wailing Wall piece and build a wall to
see the pieces of wall see the pieces he liked. And if Pelosi
was asked a question about really about the funding of it,
and I guess the the idea is Well, since you know, the DACA
deadline has passed, and we don't hear anything about those
kids enrolled at DACA talk DACA talk? I don't know, it's not
even a category in the show notes anymore. We got nothing on
DACA. You know, it's like I think the question was, well,
you're going to give the president his wall without
asking for anything in return.
I guess the question is, then, should Democrats give border
wall funding? For example, right now, when there isn't a hard
deadline on the table? Like there was last month?
What do you think? I mean, should we give a border wall for
nothing? No, I don't think so. First of all, I think the border
Did you see how high it is? And the rest of the presidents in
the wall? I mean, really, in a civilized society, we do
something like that. As obnoxious as it is, you know,
that's a community there was a border running through it. Okay,
let's, we have a difference of opinion on that. But a wall that
big separating people. I mean, really, I guess maybe I've seen
too many walls. I saw the wall in Northern Ireland years ago
before the agreement, and it was strange to see. And that was
like a tin fence. This is a big wall. Let me say this. And let
me be very clear. If the dreamers never existed, I thank
God that they do our inspiration. Thank God that they
do if they never existed, we still have a problem with what
the President wants to do. In the bill. You know, they want to
have enhanced internal enforcement that really goes
against the values of that country and might do
a couple of things about this one. Of course, you know, this
is not about security of the country. It's about politics. So
we're not going to give them the wall without getting something
in return. Second, that's Oh my god, it's so tall. It's a may
actually be effective. This is nuts. We can't have little fence
is nice. That's where they had an island where they're
civilized, I guess. But no, no, it's way too way too tall. It's
just crazy to have a tall wall tall wall is not good can't have
it. And then, and then what did she say? What did she say at the
end there? No, she's like an idiot. There's something
important that I wanted to say about that. When she said,
I know. Can you believe in me a bill? You know, they want to
have
oh, yeah, about enhanced internal something or other?
Hey, you know what, we already have this and it pisses me off
as is. So I don't know what the idea is behind enhanced internal
something or other. But in Texas, we have Border Patrol.
And they're, by law, they're allowed to be within 100 miles
of the actual border, stopping people and asking them for their
papers, please, which is illegal. Now, because they're
Customs Border Protection. And there's this this rule, I don't
know if it's a law or the rule on the books is they can do this
within 100 mile radius of the border. It this this, this has
to stop. That drives me nuts. I really, by this we talked about
a lot. And what I suggest is go to the YouTubes and just say am
I typing? Am I free to go boarder? And you'll see a lot of
smart people who just say no, am I free to go? Because you don't
have to give them anything. You don't have to answer the
questions and they will let you go. They will let you go it's
kind of fun you can get on YouTube. But if if that I had
not heard this, but if that isn't the plans, and it's I just
want to gone I want that build a wall as high as you want. MoPhO
do not harass citizens or anybody else inside the borders
with your bullcrap of hate it. Now that we've been harassed,
yes, yes. When don't you remember when we moved from
California to Austin? We got hauled apart at the at one of
these 100 Yeah. Oh, yeah, it's very annoying. Very annoying. Of
course, I had an alien in the car. So also known as my ex
wife. And I'm not just talking an eight immigrant alien. You
know what I mean? The
other story that's kind of bumbling around for some reason
I don't like the story. I don't like talking about it. You
reject the idea. But as but I'm getting a kick out of it. Mainly
because we have the was there any collusion type of thing
going on where they somebody just throws the question out.
And I made a clip of this. This is a small short clip. Four
seconds. NBC This is a gaggle of reporters. Trump's walking on
the lawn to that helicopter and they're all Yeah, you're yelling
at him. I'm always reminded of the reporters that uses Chase
Hillary around and her no horde of reporters running after her
truck. Yeah. This is a gay a gaggle of reporters in at the
very end you hear the theme of the day
I didn't hear anything. Very me. Listen, let me listen again.
Stormy Daniels I heard stormy Daniels.
Yeah. And if you hear it played a third time, there's only four
seconds. You you'll hear at a whole sentence. Okay.
Do you have a relationship with a woman named stormy Daniels? Is
that what she's asking?
Yeah, yes, he's screaming that
any collusion?
Well, John will consider this to be the big tease.
I'm going to show my move by Joe nice to know agenda. Imagine all
the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun.
well executed. And we just start by thanking a few people
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This was actually interesting, because I forwarded his note to
you because it bounced back from him. And he's he's suspicious
that maybe you're rejecting email from aol.com
It could have been caught up in in somebody as possible. I'm not
saying it's true or not true. Okay.
I will look just Just a heads up. Any Angelyn wrote please
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up on Thursday. A rare moment of journos making mistake and
admitting to it but of course it has a follow on effect. Because
everybody who reads pro publica, I read it. I believe it's
usually pretty accurate. I think they're pretty good over there.
But here's where sources, multiple sources, three sources
failed them horribly. Uh, we even reported that it will be
interesting to watch the confirmation hearings of Gina
Haspel. As the first woman of this as director of CIA, because
she, the way he had read kind of was she brought him on everybody
and then destroy the evidence. That's kind of what it sounded
like. And we thought
that was what it sounded like. That's
what they told us now a correction to a story we aired
Wednesday episodes NPR, Gina Haspel. The woman President
Trump plans to nominate for Director of the CIA. We spoke
with a reporter for ProPublica who'd investigated hospitals
role and a secret CIA prison where terrorism suspects were
interrogated. Last night ProPublica retracted key details
of that report. To correct the record. We spoke today with pro
publica as editor in chief Stephen engelberg,
any suggestion that she had a direct or personal involvement
in the waterboarding of Abu Zubaydah, which is quite an
infamous thing. In the history of intelligence, you know, who's
waterboarding Psalm 83 times? That would not be correct. The
chief of bass turns out to have been a different person. And so
any suggestion that she was directly and personally involved
in that is incorrect.
The ProPublica journalist Raymond Bonner based his
incorrect account on three sources he believed were
knowledgeable. This week, people who worked with Haspel began to
defend her, including James Mitchell, a psychologist and CIA
contractor involved in the Abu Zubaydah interrogation, some of
the ProPublica reporting was based on his book enhanced
interrogation. Today Mitchell spoke to me about the retracted
ProPublica report saying Haspel mocked Abu Zubaydah his physical
reaction to the interrogations, that's
completely untrue. I mean, it's 100% untrue, they
mischaracterize the event they miss attributed who I was
referring to. I know who I was writing about. And I know the
incident that I was writing about and she wasn't involved in
it.
Mitchell explained why on this occasion he felt the need to
speak out
I'm doing it in this particular case because they were using
something that I wrote to smear a woman who is the best choice
that this nation could have for that physician
sounds like they really fell down on the job there
well something's up with the whole thing is as though they
decided to smear her
she's a woman, white woman,
white woman who by would probably didn't vote for us
right
listen to her her husband, her brother, her dad and
so they decided to smear it was the left the dimension be folks
too and then a couple of guys came out of the woodwork to to
shame pro publica and then they had to pull the plug on the
whole thing and it's one of those deals where it's in the
public mind. Oh, yeah,
she's a harder person alright later in the day that well yeah,
no, there's still question she was there when some other guy
got waterboarded cheese so tiring.
I'll tell you the funny thing about it is it do idea I think
was the bring to mind because it brought to my mind that woman
holding the chain that little short sergeant in the Army and l
you know in that horrible prison elbow.
Oh, yes, yes. Yes. From the pictures with the orange guys in
the orange jumpsuits. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, he's she's holding a chain and they around the guy's neck
or something. There's a dog attack and all these images come
together, and she's laughing or smoking a cigarette or whatever
she's doing. Yes,
it's coming back now.
It's coming back. And it's like all these seasons. And then the
big ghost guy guy with the black hood on standing on top of a
table with these wires hooked up. They're gonna love all Abu
Ghraib. Alba grape. So as the Abu Ghraib imagery comes to mind
when you bring up this woman, so it's obviously it's the slander,
but she wasn't she was trying to create these images. It does in
my mind, all these images come back from Albuquerque.
You know, they actually need to bring the imaging back, because
that just that silhouette alone with the guy's hands, you know,
out and he's standing on a bucket. That was quite the image
that was literally iconic.
It was iconic is a
beauty. Yeah. So they need to bring that back during her
confirmation. But she wasn't at Abu Ghraib. But still, you know,
it's not the point. It's the imagery. Yes.
It's just the image just to make us think about this. Right. All
right. Horrible. She's terrible, and then putting her in charge
of the CIA. So based on all this, she must be the right
person for the job because they they went after her.
Yeah, that's fun. Well, also, she will be in charge who went
after? Was
it NSA?
Well, the question is, yeah, yeah. The question why it would
be FBA? You know, I don't know. The question is, will the
messaging change? Will the will CIA, you know, the CIA has done
a lot of psychological warfare. That's probably what they do
most of. Will, Will they have new messaging?
Well, the only way to find out is I think the number one
messenger for this for the agency is the New York Times.
Right? I think Washington Post is number two, and then NBC
would be number three, and ABC number four, but they'll be
number one should be CBS and see but CBS has decided to go
completely neutral. Oh, this is new. Well, I've been noticing
that next clips hold on that makes sense. They've always been
the Central Intelligence Broadcasting System, new blood
coming in sources quote, dry up
they got nothing. It's probably the communications network dries
up or they just decide that we have to wait and put themselves
in a holding pattern to see which way to go. Right. The
other guys Eric just rudderless ships are just going nuts on a
Trump and that's that Yep.
Have you noticed how Fox has the audacity to continuously talk
about the mainstream media so I want to put a compendium
together of that accomplish they're always well you know the
mainstream media says this The mainstream media is they are
pulling themselves out of the mainstream media
which is trying to but no one's buying it they just they all
talk they have like three times the numbers of CNN and MSNBC but
no called down stream media somehow
yeah
though yeah it's it's pretty disgusting oh you know we're not
mainstream Come on we know the Democrats run you guys too we've
known this this is not a secret so left right paradigm you need
it but don't don't do that you're a part of the same system
take
the best example of that sort of thing was during the Golden Age
of talk radio in the Bay Area where they had these individuals
ksfo which is the has all the right wing talkers on his got
Michael Savage has got Rush Limbaugh it's got everybody
except for I think Hannity someplace else and there's a few
other stragglers here and there but kg Oh, at the time the ksfo
was formed was the all Democrats the Democrat line was there was
borderline they are America but it was all the more Democrat
side right both stations were run by the same guy. The same
progress the one guy programming for the Democratic program for
the Republic
and why not? Yeah, it's perfect. It you can balance out the
ratings is fantastic. You know, I as I said I would I dove into
that Tommy. Tommy Davis is not Tommy Davis. The
but what was it about?
Yeah, you're the guy that our Israeli producers are knights
there are always tweeting about Tommy. Man. I don't know. Hey,
the guy who's who's seen as a Hitler Hitler. He ran the
English Defence League, Tommy Robinson.
All right. They kind of got beat up in jail. Tommy Robinson
that's the guy. Yeah. Tommy Robinson. You got pounded. Oh,
yeah. Well, he had a very he could talk at at Oxford. I don't
know why but that drum in jail for in the first place? Well,
you have
to kind of hear his story. But yeah, he lives in Luton, which
is fine and does an airport there that I think that's the
main business of Luton. And you know, one Moss came in and
before you know it, 10 years later, there's 30 mosques and
there's all kinds of stuff happening. And then, you know,
the the young dudes, this is his story, said, Well, this is good.
This can be like, whenever something happens, we go and
say, Hey, stop that and then we get arrested. That's pretty much
pretty much it. It sounds right. And you know, and he, his whole
talk is based on Hey, please hear my side of the story. And
when you speak there at Oxford, it's nice. You mean it's that
yeah, there's there are people outside protesting but inside
there's very strict rules you don't mess around when you
what's the it's the Oxford this a name for it? Is that
particularly that one place is the wooden insight interior
building, and you said a girl wouldn't pretty much you know
what I mean, though? They're their traditional talks. Yeah.
Oh, have you spoken there?
No, God, no.
So that led me to something that's happening right now,
which I didn't realize and we we know the Rotherham report, we
talked about that with these, the girls being groomed by by
Muslim men. Yes, and raped and all kinds of horrible things.
Well, now this is happening in an ER has been happening for a
long time in Telford, to elf o rd. And this has not been on our
radar at all, it got to the point where I tried to commit
suicide. It was one of the girls talking about what happened to
her.
And, and still, nobody asked me any questions about what was
going on in my life and why I was reacting the way I was
reacting. And the only way I got out of it was by actually
leaving Telford and isolating myself, from my friends and
family and everybody else that I knew the men were blackmailing
me and saying that they were going to, sorry, rate my family
members or burn my house down. And that was a real threat on
Telford following the Lucy load case.
Yeah. So it's a famous case that kind of kicked this off, but
it's still, I mean, it's, you just don't hear about it that
much. Of course, you don't want to have this put out too
broadly. I mean, gee, we wouldn't want to have a bad
migrant story, except for members of parliament. Lucy
Allen. I think her name is she had this to say yes, Lucy.
Yeah, Lucy.
Why are you laughing? Well, I
mean, there's a guy I've except I have yet to produce, but it's
pretty funny.
I've had many young girls come to me and tell me about their
experiences. And certainly in the light of the recent
revelations, I have been literally inundated with emails
from people saying, this happened to me only yesterday, I
had a consultant psychiatrist telling me that he had had many
patients where this had been an issue that had they had
consulted him on in terms of the mental health consequences of,
of this terrible crime happening to them. So it is clear that it
wears the police on over many years, and that a significant
number of young girls have been affected.
Well, that's where you want to go back and listen to Tommy
Robinson because he says there's a to two tier system with the
police. And for a number of reasons. The main one I would
argue is political correctness, which we've which is really what
happened I saw it myself when I moved back to Europe at the end
of 1999. He just couldn't say anything. This is not okay
what's happening here. And the police had the same thing he
came going around rested arresting migrants, certainly
not if they're Muslims, if they're around their mosque, you
can't do that. That's wrong. Whatever the problem was, and
that goes back to heat them you can pull in go on forever why
this killer gi plan? It's all over the place. But what's going
on with this raping women girls keeping them hostage, you know,
threatening them to their families will die? grooming them
for sex services.
I mean, forget about scandal, forget
about who's doing it. Just go stop all of it, whoever's
involved, but now that seems to be a problem. And I'm just gonna
stay in Gitmo nation east for a moment because Nick Clegg said
something very interesting. And I looked into it, and it's true.
Absolutely as if it was a very, very, this is about Brexit.
That's a photo finish. It was only there was only 650,000
votes in it. And how can I put this politely? actuarially, I
suspect that the high point of the Brexit vote has already
passed crucially, young people who have to live with the
consequences of that referendum vote. And these botched
negotiations overwhelmingly wants something different. And
by the way, the young people here just be clear, but they say
Brexit voters are dying off base if you look at the demography,
the oldest voters voted for Brexit and largest numbers. The
youngest voters did the opposite. And the youngest
voters are now flocking to Jeremy Corbyn and the Question I
hope you will ask Jeremy Corbyn in a few moments time is simply
this. He wants to become prime minister of this country,
principally to end austerity. You cannot end austerity if you
don't end Brexit, ending austerity and proceeding with
Brexit are incompatible with each other. Because it means and
all the only objective assessment show this, it means
you have less money to spend on the public services that he
wanted.
So here's the statistics, and it's a mystery. 120,000 Britons,
old Britons have died, a 12% rise in fatalities over this
period. In fact, 10,000 more died in the first seven weeks of
2018 than in 2017. And in every article, you find that it's it
comes right back to well, about 120,000. Brexit leave voters
have died since Brexit. And because of that, as you heard
Nick Clegg just saying, well, these were the old people.
They're dying off. Hey, that dying off a little quickly. I
don't know why, but they know maybe I don't know. The dying
off. Maybe some of that Nova choc stuff. I don't know. So we
might consider voting again. Now that you know, we have a fresh
No, this is distressing.
Yes. It's very distressing. And then we're just like, well, we
don't know. It's very odd about the leaf. People are dying and
they'll say it in the articles.
We're sure guessing they're just trying to it's almost like
messaging. Almost we mean, almost like it is a messaging
you're saying, hey, get ready for another vote people. Let me
see this time, we're not gonna let these guys get in the way of
what we need to do, which is to become part of this giant,
horrible this is this is pretty good.
The German Republic right, we're going to become part of the
German Republic Empire German Empire. I'm sorry.
While you were sharing thinkpieces and Brexit memes of
no consequence, Twitter user Steve Lawrence has been doing
the Lord's work. Piecing together data from Euro stat,
the British election study and data journalism carried out by
financial times in the independent, Steve has made a
model that predicts the remain would win by 52.08% If a snap
referendum was called today. And if that were interesting enough,
one of the most fun aspects of Steve's data like that, those
Brits is the bluntness of which he's labeled voters now dead.
Just look at the stats. 123,411 of them all estimated to have
died since taking to the voting booths, comparatively, his data
suggests that less than 30,000 of those who voted remain have
now bitten the dust working out to almost a 100,000 person
difference. And so if they, so I guess the strategy would
be like bragging about this, look, we killed these people
off, we can do another vote. It's
a fun fact.
It's a fun fact.
That's what it seems like. Yes. It's very disturbing. I mean,
they're not even hiding it. We're just killing off these
people. So we can do the vote over and then it'll be a fair
vote because we're just killing off the people who wanted to
stay. They were old. crotchy didn't need them anymore.
They're really just a burden on society. You can call me a
crackpot, all you want. Now, of course, they can't blame this
one on Russia. But I
already had the Russia element. ID. I mean, you put the Russia
element there old Russia will push Brexit through. And so
maybe that's what we needed to do it again, because this time
we'll be on the lookout for Russia. Yeah.
Oh, and by the way. Wouldn't it be interesting if Russia for
some reason? You know, I don't know. Maybe because they're
accused of killing people? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Chemical
Warfare on British soil. Would it be fun if because of that
FIFA said, you know, that planned World Cup in your
country? Yeah, we're not going to do that. Because you know,
which, which stadium is the backup stadium? I'm guessing is
in the UK? That would be Wembley Of course it is. Think about
that. That would really work. Well, they already they're
already
not as a stadium. They build a new stadium.
They're not even they're not even a country at the Olympics.
You know, they're the oars.
Right though the horse or hours
the hot Olympians from Russia and Olympic athletes from Russia
doors.
These guys are just apologizing for Putin.
That's right baby. Totally apologizing for
Oh my goodness. Oh, my.
Got it. I got something that's interesting. Your use. So I want
you to so so I want you to listen to this. This the Omar
man had to rewrite of history and remember when they had the
Orlando shootout This is Pulse nightclub Pulse nightclub we we
trace it that they took like eight hours before anything
happened and
the most candidate gun most were killed by the cops we think
that's what we were jury was based on the way they presented
it at the time because the cops weren't weren't doing anything
we're going in. Well, ah, they have finally reached finally
after a year or whenever how long what go was released some
videos showing that the police response was actually within six
minutes. Listen to the latest away. Here's the rewrite of
history. And here's how here's how it went down
showing jurors how casually her husband Omar Mateen entered the
Pulse nightclub, pacing it for 11 minutes through that doorway,
a packed dance floor Mateen then leaving the club moving his car
to a closer spots before coming back in this time with his
assault rifle, opening fire on that dance floor. Then moving to
another part of the club. Within six minutes. Police entering
through the lobby their guns drawn as they see the full
horror inside. Officers yelling to the wounded to get
out if they can't.
Mateen holding up in the restrooms for the next three
hours outside SWAT teams busting through an exterior wall.
Oh, that's odd. Yeah. So the way we remember it is not the way it
was told the first time. Why are they busting through an exterior
wall when they apparently the cops is
in there? You know, it's like Vegas, we'll never know. We're
just not going to know anymore. There's not going to,
I think for everything. Well, let's
stay in Florida finish. I
know. And then I got to tell us anything.
No, they won't. And, you know, what we need is we need an arm
of our production team to be filing Freedom of Information
Act requests. Yeah, that's really what we need. That's I
mean, that's what Tom Fitton and his group do. That's what they
do all day long. Surely We have enough out of work Generation Z
law grads who can do this for us. We only need a template
that's true.
I know it's a good idea to the Judicial Watch does a fantastic
job of digging crap up because nobody cares. Not really. Why
would we but they did makes a difference to our show because
we care we do.
I'm gonna stay in Florida. Social Justice needs to be
justice must be done here. Angel
Morales shares a love for Harry Potter with her daughter's. They
bought annual passes to universal last year and couldn't
wait to check out the wizarding world. Angel spent a lot of
money on souvenirs that first trip but for her the thrills
fell short
couldn't fit on any of the Harry Potter rides because of my
weight, did a lot of bag holding and Diagon Alley and that kind
of thing.
She's overweight, but size 16 If she's announced, you know, maybe
a little bigger than that.
She hoped to ride universals King Kong attraction because the
seat is a bench without a safety bar. But when they got to the
front, she told her daughter she didn't think they would fit
without making others uncomfortable. A man in line
overheard the conversation and offered to wait for the next
ride, allowing angel to go with her daughter's. So on their
second trip back to the park Angel trying to avoid more
embarrassment by asking the school Island through us one
less person could ride in her row. She says they wouldn't
allow it because they had to push for capacity is somewhat
humiliating to have to ask for an accommodation because of
one's weight. You know that you have to put yourself out there
and kind of begged to be able to ride and embarrass yourself
because of weight.
Angel filed a discrimination complaint with the Florida
Commission on Human Relations and says she feels people who
are overweight should be a protected class.
Their interest is getting bodies and getting money and not
accommodating paying customers. That's how I felt.
And Angel says universal did offer her a $100 gift card plus
dinner in a movie but she does not plan to return to the park.
She's suing as she's going all the way with this. She has to be
a protected class.
protected class. Wow.
Yeah. I mean, if this if this stuff works, we're doomed. We're
just doomed.
We're doomed. We're doomed. Here's a class.
Here's the Premier of Ontario, Canada Navia. Kathleen Wynne and
she's talking to students you know, hey, look, we got some
elections. We want you you kids got to vote. me out. And you
know why? You tell me why John, why why? Why did the kids have
to get out there and vote? I just stopped
Trump. Close this
spring. I hope you'll join me. Most importantly, for me, is
that you take part in the Democratic process now probably
everyone who's here is interested enough that you will
all you will all vote you will take part. But what we need you
to do is we need you to talk to everyone who is in your circle.
The reality is that young people vote at a much, much lower rate
than older people. And I always say when I knock on a door and I
meet, a young person who comes in says, you know, I'm not going
to vote, it doesn't make a difference. You know, if you
don't vote, then somebody looks like me is going to vote, some
senior person older than me, some white person, you know, the
reality is that that's the demographic that's going to get
out and vote. So we need you, we need you to be engaged. Of
course, I would love you to be supporting us. But quite
frankly, I'd rather that you just come out and make your
voice heard. Whatever your political stripe is,
my Millennials stay Whoa, just you got to be afraid of the old
white person is white. He's white person is nothing but
trouble. By the way, we haven't used one today, but we were
looking for a name for the old guy things. Like saying, Chief a
chief. Yeah. What other examples that we have?
Well, my, my wife decided that this was a good idea. And so she
pretty much ruined it for the whole because she's got
everything she said Is she has a number of these good examples.
This is what she says. Her mom gave her this. Your mom her mom
would say stuff like, I'll give you something to cry about.
Okay, I have a name for this segment. Now. We already had
phrase from the chaise. Right we feel good. Why not? phrase from
the age? Maybe Oh, cheese. Come on.
I wasn't that well. It's I'll let me think about it.
How about kill Whitey then
kill ye. Here's another Here's
something to cry about. That's a good one. Give
you some that cry? Get over here. I'll give you something to
cry about. Hey, hey, money doesn't grow on
trees. Oh, another oldie but goody. Very mommy,
because I said so. Make sure you have clean underwear on in case
you get into a car
accident. Hey, don't run around with that stick. You're gonna
poke an eye out. Oh, hey, don't run around with scissors. Yeah.
Hey, if you make that face, it's gonna freeze.
Oh, man. Oh, I recognize them all this horrible.
But hey, eat your food. There are people starving in
Africa. I can hear hundreds, maybe 10s of people voicing
these along with us because they know that
they women would always be Yeah, well, no one's gonna want you as
a wife. I've never heard that. But you know a woman. Oh, there
you go. How about wait until your father gets home?
Nice. You're cruising for a bruising.
This is going to hurt me more than it hurts you. Hey, hold
your horses. Wow, that's good sign. All right, everybody,
everybody. The one that everybody wrote in about was
Hey, close the door. Or you're born in a barn?
Yeah, I got that when I tried to cool down.
Almost dead. But these other ones are? Record they asperous
is another one that I remember. I don't know that one. So yeah,
it's your room looks like the wreck of the Hesperus. I'll give
you something to cry. My mom
would always say Your room looks like a war zone or disaster area
and get that kind of stuff.
Yeah, they record the hesper is what I got. Is that sort of
thing. Charles alright. That's pretty much it. But yeah, I'm
kind of done. Charles Ortel. I mean, secondhand contact with
him could do the interview whenever we want. But I want it
to make sense for you know, when we have when we know that we're
going to have a day off. So it'll be current. And he's
heating up his reporting? About Okay, good. Yeah. And it's
really more about the Clinton Health Access Initiative. And, I
mean, there's all kinds of things wrong with this one.
They, in fact, they're 1090 was rejected by the IRS, their most
recent one, they sent it in late, it was rejected. And then
when you look at it, they really only claim $65 million worth of
income yet. On the other documents, like the annual
report, they're talking about over 140,000 140 million, and
it's untraceable where the rest went. And they can't even be
operating anyway. You know, they're not they do not have
official status. And even with that non official status, it's
actually The RF, the RF dash one report I'm sorry. So they
finally got it in 105 days late. Yes. 143 million in revenue in
California. However, it doesn't match with the with this IRS
document where they only declare 66 million and Artel Ortel. He
is what he does, he rips this stuff apart based upon really
the information that's, that's publicly available. And at this
point, the Clinton Health Access Initiative is not legal, in
fact, in many violations of operating in both California and
New York, and he's now kind of blogging saying, Excuse me, is
anyone in New York gonna do anything about this? Anybody in
California can do anything about this? Yes or no answer. No, but
still, you know, he's working it. I appreciate what he does.
He has a he has like a podcast on YouTube. Every single day.
Yeah,
I got a try. Get some clips from Jeff Flake, who just one of the
world's world's worst public speakers, was at the press,
National Press Club, giving his bitch bitching and moaning about
Trump. Now, this
is the guy who resigned
he's the guy's not running again. Okay, yes. Not running
Gotcha. Arizona. Yeah, because he couldn't win. He's like he's
in there at all is is you know, say a male model type guys,
ditch dipshit. But he uses a word ended just a very short
clip. This clip is longer than it should be. But it's 4046
seconds. I want you to spot this and ask God, I want you to spot
spot the word that kind of made me cringe.
Hmm, I wonder. We should know by now that there is no strategic
brilliance to Marvel out here. No, by now we know that this is
chaos for its own sake, projected onto the world. But
the norming of this behavior by my party precedes the pace. In
my recent book, I wrote about Richard Nixon's madman theory in
which the strategic projection of the appearance of stability
and force the desired outcome from a fearful fool. But for
that theory, to have coherence, you must first first actually
think strategically. And if you don't, once that theory is taken
away, all that remains is the madman.
I would say the I think non existent verb norming. Yes,
norming
now, so I'm looking it up. What is the meaning of norming?
Apparently other people say
norming? Yeah, that's when you sit in one place. All your life
like norm from cheers. That's norming.
Well, there's norming a test of norming stage. What is the what
is the tuck mentor is about? Yeah, well, that I that normally
I was looking for a norm clip to use. You know, it's brilliant
minds, brilliant minds, has done no harm. When he walks in, it
would be good. team formation usually follows recognizable
stages known as forming, storming, norming and
performing. So it's one of those things that's bull crap. It's
one of those things they use in like a focus group or something,
you know, they forming stars. Okay, here's, we're going to do
folks, we're gonna get together having a meeting.
I want you all to know that here at the current of our consulting
group, we do black box white box studies with double blinding
code and stuff. So John,
we're going to do forming, storming, norming and
performing. Yes, sir. So we form an idea. we brainstorm how to
make it work. We make it normal, and then we perform it and make
it happen.
Boom, count one.
I'm guessing nice norming or being
in the context that he was speaking the word should have
been normalization, I believe as normal, normalized or
normalized. Who the hell says norming in a public setting?
Wow. I'm glad you're so upset about this. And I'm not gonna
let you off the hook. Because you we teased you promised
normally stormy I got stormy. Yeah, you promise we teased her
remember? Yeah. Well. This is how it works. You turn on the
news. The lead the headline, the breaking news? is Stormy Daniels
here on the best podcast in the universe. It's a throwaway
segment so we can fill up time to end the show. Yes, here we
go. Exactly. There we go.
You've got three dishes to choose from, but I'm gonna it's
gonna pay the pay the best one which is the NBC Clip of stormy
Daniels got to give us a little clip from the Morning Joe Show
to make it really important today and
attorney for the adult film actress who was allegedly paid
hush money to keep quiet about an affair with Mr. Trump days
before the 2016 election said she was also physically
threatened to stay silent and he claims more women are coming
forward. And BZ news White House correspondent Kristen Welker has
the story.
With a bombshell came from stormy Daniels lawyer Michael
Avenatti. Telling Morning Joe Daniels was physically
threatened to stay silent about her alleged 2006 affair with
then citizen Donald Trump. Was she threatened in any way? Yes.
Was she threatened physical harm? Yes.
What's her life threatened? Again, I'm not going to answer
that
Avenatti making the media rounds refusing to say today whether
the threats came before or after Daniel signed a nondisclosure
agreement, excepting $130,000 Right before election day not to
talk about her alleged relationship with Mr. Trump.
Daniels is now suing saying the deal isn't valid because she
says the president never signed the paperwork. Michael Cohen,
President Trump's outside attorney who says he paid
Daniels out of his own pocket as a part of that agreement didn't
respond to requests for comment today. Adding to the growing
controversy,
we have been approached by six separate women who claim to have
similar stories to those or to that of my client.
The White House has denied any relationship between the
President and the porn star and is now on defense yet again.
The question we want answered is any collusion that's all we need
to know.
Now I want to run this other clip because at least PBS was
their report. They call her by her real name. There is nobody
named Daniels right? So this is the end this is the best this is
a better story I liked the other one is because it had some juice
in it. But this one here's a little more straightforward. The
lawyer
for porn film star Stephanie Clifford says that she has been
threatened with bodily harm. If she did not remain silent about
an alleged sexual affair with President Trump. He gave no
details and would not say if someone tried to Mr. Trump made
the threat against Clifford, who was known as stormy Daniels. The
White House said the president condemns anyone who threatens
any individual.
Why is this news?
Seriously? Because it's crap. Now,
none of this happened during the campaign or the election. Is
there some illegal illegality that could tank the president?
Is that is that the idea? I'm just trying to understand?
No, no, it's just to keep the bubble the pot boiling.
You sure? You sure there's no other strategy behind it then?
Well, there's
a counter strategy if you play the third clip. This is kind of
interesting. Okay. All right.
Oh, just plus a night the President versus the porn star.
Donald Trump and his personal legal team firing Bacchus.
By the way that was the title I suggested like eight shows ago.
He didn't like it. I said the president versus the porn star.
He didn't think it was good. It's too long. Okay, but now
they're stealing our material
to steal our materials is up for grabs.
The President versus the porn star Donald Trump and his
personal legal team firing back at stormy Daniels seeking more
than $20 million in damages. Daniels is fighting to speak out
about her alleged 2006 affair with Trump. You have a
nondisclosure agreement to lie. Daniels who was paid $130,000 by
longtime Trump Attorney Michael Cohen, just before the 2016
election, is accused of breaching the confidential
settlement at least 20 times, Trump publicly hands off the
court battle until now, he and Cohen filed paperwork to move
the case from state to federal court.
This could end up in a very big, very nasty, contentious court
battle where Donald Trump would be forced to give testimony
under oath in a deposition,
the president retained highprofile Beverly Hills
Attorney Charles harder who represented Hulk Hogan in his
legal battle against Gawker. Harder, saying Mr. Trump intends
to pursue his rights to the fullest extent permitted by law.
Daniel's Attorney Michael Luminati, calling the move of
bullying tactic saying how can President Donald Trump seek $20
million in damages against my client based on an agreement
that He and Mr. Cohen claim Mr. Trump never was a party to and
knew nothing about? Hashtag checkmate Avanade. He says
Daniels has been physically threatened to stay quiet about
her alleged sexual relationship with Trump. And when
the American people are permitted to hear from my client
and hopefully they will hear from my client shortly. They
will learn the details relating to these threats.
All right. KENNETH also joins us now from the White House and
Kenneth attorneys for Daniel's offering no evidence so far or
further details about those alleged threats. That's right,
Tom. No evidence no details with stormy Daniels attorney says
when she's allowed to talk in the hopes that will happen soon
the American people will be able to judge on whether you She's
telling the truth about those alleged threats. Tom,
brother. Let me just say,
I think when it comes to your analysis this girl brother,
when you think about porn stars, I think officially she's a sex
worker. She might have visit now, but she doesn't visit home,
she has sex for on camera for money. So she's a sex worker. I
just I know the profile of of this person a little bit. And
just not people like to give money back by fried. But to
think that maybe someone else is offering a better deal for her
to do all this is not beyond
malicious of why I think they did the countersue for 20
million because no one's going to offer a better deal than
that. Right? So you keep your 130 Shut up, or We're suing you.
So if somebody offered 250 or 500 to break the other deal,
right. So that's what I think is going on with that. But
what we what we need, yeah, you know, more clips. You can't play
any more clips.
I got one shorty. Seven seconds. Okay, wait.
I know we have people in our producer community. Who are sex
workers or know people who are sex workers. What's the buzz in
the community?
Yes, send us an email.
I mean, we are we're uniquely positioned to find this kind of
stuff out. And of course, anonymity assured just and you
can send encrypted to me. No worries. I'd like to know what
what is the buzz? Or is everyone like, Man, she's so smart. She's
cleaning house, which I think she's doing. She
seems like a big dummy to me.
Your last class thing there was a bridge Oh, laughs when I tell
it don't bits when I tell you the show as long as
I take full responsibility for running over time. Okay, sorry.
All right. But I just went I get one of the few times I can
actually clean off my clip list. Okay. But this was a bridge
collapsing in Florida, Florida International University, some
overhead bridge me with a special construction method
called ABC, which is where you build a bridge and then you
nearby and then you drop it on top.
Yeah. And it also it also needs guidewires, which it didn't
have, and it was massive new space, age, self cleaning
cement.
And they had all this stuff going on. Right. Right. Right.
Right. So So I found that one of the networks actually played a
little an ironic tidbit about the school which financed and
put this thing up. And here's the bridge irony.
In a tragic irony. Florida International University has
long been a leader in ABC engineering research.
They're one of the shows for the vetting process pretty
bad. Very sad.
What's very sad, it's
the super day records what it is, imagine. Alright, Everybody
showed a keep your eyes peeled. You never know what might
happen. Yeah, something always does. We'll be sure to
deconstruct it for you on Thursday show. I will be here in
downtown Austin, Texas. It's known as the capital of the
drone Star State. In addition to that, you can find it on any
government map just do a search for being at FEMA Region six.
We're right smack dab in the middle of it. Without any news
from the South by Southwest Conference or the south by
bomber, the still in the five by nine studio in the Commonwealth
condo. In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry,
and from Northern Silicon Valley. I don't know what to
tell you, whether I'd give pivotal like that. Nobody likes
my low reports at the end. So I'm just gonna sign off. I'm
John C. Dvorak.
Well, we will be back on Thursday. Remember us at divorce
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fun. And as always, adios mofos I need to cap
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