No facts with Adam curry for June 29 2022. This is episode
number 83 summers here and so are we. I'm Adam curry coming to
you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country time once again to
spin that wheel of topics from here to Northern Virginia.
Please once again say hello to my friend on the other end
ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Moe facts.
I know Adam, it Mo's Good to hear from you, brother. Man.
Good. It's good to be back in the saddle. Yeah, and get things
going.
Yeah, we got the summer in full effect right now. And, and I,
I'm not quite sure what you brought for us today. But I am
ready for just before we hit July, just to check everything
good there in Northern Virginia.
Very busy, but it's good. It's all good. We're very, very busy.
So but I have another great show for the people. So I guess
you're gonna spin that wheel and we'll get right on soon.
All right, here we go. spinning the wheel of topics round around
and goes where it stops. Nobody knows. Well, of course, Moe
actually does know what will the topic be for Moe facts without
him curry episode number 83.
This case is not legal. It is political.
This case is not legal. It is political. Okay. All right. So I
don't know anything yet. I have no idea.
I know people are gonna think that they talk about whatever's
in the headline. And
the first thing I think of is January 6, J six the the
primetime purge.
Not not it, it will take another guest because I left that clip
like that just to see if you news cycle where he kind of came
in when I'm gonna see if you can get it.
Well, I mean, I could look at the clips or that would be not
doing Oh, so. Roe v. Wade. Okay.
No, no, I'll help you out. Andrew Gilliam. Oh,
I saw Yes. I saw one article. I think just one that he was
convicted of wire fraud. And you know, it's like, wow, I mean,
this was the guy who was supposed to be the governor of
Florida, right. And it's just the Democratic Party has
completely dropped him. No one comes to his defense is just
over.
Ask yourself how much different things would be if he won in
DeSantis? Didn't?
Yeah. I didn't think it'd be very different right now.
So that's this. That's why this news story piqued my interest.
And we can't forget the fact that this is Joe Biden's FBI.
Whoa, wait a minute. Joe Biden's what does the FBI have to do
with Gillum?
That's who that's the charges. Oh,
charges. Oh, I didn't realize that. All right, grab one count
of well, let's
just give it to it. Clip one.
Andrew Gilliam once rising Florida democratic star has been
indicted alongside one of his longtime advisors for alleged
fraud tied to his campaign against Governor Ron DeSantis.
The 21 count indictment includes one count of lying to the FBI,
one count of conspiracy to commit mail fraud and 19 counts
of wire fraud. In an earlier statement, NBC News Gillum
acknowledged the case but denied any wrongdoing saying quote,
every campaign I've run has been done with integrity. Make no
mistake that this case is not legal. It is political. In just
a few moments. Gillum in his advisor, Sharon Letterman Hicks
are scheduled to make their first court appearance in
Tallahassee.
Okay. Well, that changes things a little bit.
How can this be political? If it's the Democrats who are in
charge of the Department of Justice?
Well, I mean, isn't that by default? Exactly. That if the
Democrats the Democratic Party is in charge of justice, then
it's all political? I'd say.
Yeah, but this is their guy. This was Obama's guy. Yeah.
Maybe possibly more ways than one but
that's, that was that's where my thinking goes right away. It's
like well, you know, this was Obama's guy. Maybe he needs to
be shut up.
Well, we're gonna get into it. But I just found out this, these
charges and to get 19 charges, one charge aligned to the FBI.
In a world where you're saying Hunter Biden is getting away
with murder. We politicians do this kind of thing all the time.
We'll get more into the charges but I just found it very
strange. Well, he will be charged but not really, because
I'm just going to lay out something right here right now.
I've mentioned this before. These are headlines. Fox News
Clairborne Inc, Democrat, South Carolina damn show showers
family members with over 200k from campaign funds. Magazine
water pays daughter another 24,000 and campaign cash
wedding. Previous payment, we
are purging the Democratic Party.
There are some particular but all these candidates I can tell
you, Lieutenant Governor Benjamin resigns for following
campaign funding finance. indictments. That's the
Lieutenant Governor of New York. What all these people have in
common? They're all Democrats. And they're all black. So
yeah, you're right. I guess that's, that's fun. Mo I'm, I'm
so used to not seeing color anymore that I didn't even
realize it.
I just find it strange that all these headlines are cropping up.
It's kind of like, stay in line. Don't you think about leaving
this plantation. Right.
Well, but wait a minute. So But Auntie Maxine. She's not leaving
the plantation. She is she doing something wrong? Is she not
following orders?
They understand a grant they've lost a grassroots. Right? We're
just gonna get it this surface level of it. You didn't get the
expected response with Roe v. Wade from quote unquote, the
blast?
No, in fact, quite the opposite. I'd say. You understand
the Democrats still need the vote. These Democrats in these
districts still need that vote. The black vote right? And
they're torn out. This is my just my perspective and
political calculus. So they're looking at the grassroots.
They're like, Well, I'm damned if I do. I'm damned if I don't.
Because if my grassroot people don't turn out for me. Yeah,
we're gonna get right. Right, right. So you can see them
easily. But we're making a pivot.
So I wonder if if Gillum somehow was was some kind of threat to
the, to the Democrats or to Obama or whoever else is pulling
the strings?
Or could that could be one thing, or was he just using
example. To say, hey
black on black on black, black lynching, man, that's pretty
bad.
Well, we'll get more into that. Because what since you brought
it up? You see, they're bringing in a new class of Democrat
candidates. The guy with the noose around his neck.
Yeah, literally lynching. Yeah. What's his name?
He's from Kentucky. You caught me flat footed. Okay. I'll look
it up. But I'm him. And then you have a guy I think got a baton
rouge. He was in his his campaign as smoking weed. So
even the Democrats know we have to go with a more black male,
Charles Blake St. Charles Charles Booker. That's it. Yeah,
so I think the Democrats are pivoting you know, all if you
can do an agent, age ism as well, for a few of these people.
It's like, it's time for them to go. And you start bringing in
new people. And new, a new class. But I think this if I had
to say it, this was a warning. This was a this was a shout out
and I'm gonna lay out my case. So I guess we can get into a lot
of people may say who is and yes,
we're intimate, intimately familiar with him in his demise.
But this is a whole new level. Alright, let's check it out.
And I sincerely believe that what is going to deliver us to
victory in November is the fact that they are everyday hard
working people in this state will dilute
the man did he get Joe Biden's mic guy because that's all
talking from inside a bucket that they
deserve a voice and our government to and we're going to
give it to them
muscle a believer and science. We're going to have a government
approval work to ensure that the air that we breathe is clean
that the water that we drink is non contaminated, in addition to
being the mayor of Tallahassee, Florida, the capital city of our
nation's third largest state. I'm also a father and along with
my wife, RJ we are raising two year old twins Jackson and
Caroline. You cannot
sit back and complain and moan and groan. You gotta get
involved in the political process. You got to work with
Andrew to try Let's form that state.
Okay,
so this was from the Washington Post it put this together. No,
well, okay. So this just lets you know that they were there is
basically a campaign ad. Yeah. This is when he was running in
Florida. So in Bernie
support that was pretty big.
I'll let you beat me to the punch. Sorry. Yeah. No. Because
it's like, yeah. So was this kind of like he was he a Bernie
guy? No. Because he was green New Deal he made. Of course, he
was progressive. But yeah, I just find it I find it
interesting because this guy was, in some ways better than
Obama. Well, he was he was groomed from early on when you
look at his Wikipedia page, to be the governor and a
presidential candidate.
Yeah, should actually look that up. I mean, talking about but
yeah, he had some bags. He had some bad skeletons in the
closet, though. I
mean, oh, we're gonna get to that, but no different than
other candidates have had. But that No,
except Obama, they somehow they really did kill people. Let's
well shut up. I'm gonna kill you.
This is true. So while you look up his wiki and get to the parts
who was who was Andrew Gillum
46% of the people in Florida today said that they cannot make
ends meet at the end of the month. They're working many of
them harder than ever, and can't pull down a wage where they can
take care of themselves in their families, right. I know what it
was like to watch my mother and my father trade between which
bills they could pay before something got cut off, praying
to God without a way forward that next week, something might
show up, that will allow them to pay enough on the lights so that
they wouldn't get cut off. That experience informs my politics.
I'm fighting for things like when Congress has this slush
fund for sexual harassment settlements. I blow the whistle
on that stuff. So I'm not always the most popular guy in DC. But
I did have support from from someone in Washington. If you
walk down Pennsylvania Avenue, he lives in the White House with
the pillars in front of you.
On behalf of all of you and on behalf of all of the people of
the state of Florida. We accept this nomination and look forward
to November 6, when I'm elected the next Governor of the great
state of Florida. God bless you. That's been good, huh?
Huh. I heard you ringabel.
Yeah, I heard I had a help from someone in the White House from
Obama. That's why I was ringing it.
That was I know that was DeSantis talking.
Oh, crap. I could he was
saying he used that as a he used that as a right as a linking him
to Trump. Yes, of course. Of course not. He but Washington
Post, right, Tim to Trump. And if he went Florida, he's
definitely 2020 for his candidate. This is a big deal.
This is why I'm telling you.
And again, this went completely under the radar not and that may
have been different from the sources you're reading, but in
general, like no agenda level, the only it only that, which
means m five M that's what we tried. And it really only
bubbled up once there was one, one article one headline and
maybe Roe v. Wade happened right after it. I'm sure it was very
close. And when I saw it, I'm like, Oh, this is going under
the radar. There's a couple of things that are happening. And
it's all being covered up or at least not covered because of the
outrage of Roe v. Wade.
Kind of like COVID Yes. COVID space.
Yeah. We know the COVID face. Yes, exactly. Exactly.
Reason why I saw this guy's man Teflon. Because even what
happened we'll get later you're seeing those skeleton T's you
refer to right? He had the I mean, that was a feature. Just
to foreshadow a little bit to to the party that you know, we'll
be voting for him. Yeah. And so always, I was why now, why? Why
does DOJ Yeah. Where's where's the protection? Because like you
said, you saw how the media ran interference. And, you know,
three letter agencies ran interference for Obama. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. He's, he was crowned to be the next Obama. Um, but
actually says he could carry Florida
to the way the way I saw it was because, you know, of course, he
had this big hotel room scandal that completely ruined all of
his chances. That's the that's the type of political hit job
you would expect. And so maybe it was Republicans but even that
could have come from inside. I don't know, it could have
worked.
And I'm here to tell you guys All goes right now. So
I'm so sorry.
You in that time travel,
I can't help it.
I know, I know. Oh, well we need to do now is look at him because
Obama even came out and stopped for him big time in Florida. And
in that election against the Santa Fe. So let's get into
number five
from justice and opportunity hope spreads. Amen starts
rippling
it enters into each of us.
Can you stocks? Of course, I need your audio ears, okay to
listen to how and I don't normally do this. But listen to
how they let Obama talk. And then it had this dead space. So
his words could be resonate like that.
Well, there's what I it's interesting. You say that I
heard a noise gate kick in immediately. I'm like, oh,
shouldn't is that my noise gate? Do I have a noise gate on this
thing? I was I was blaming myself. So yes, that was noise
gated.
What the fact that this was done post that may MSNBC put those
gaps in there? It may have
been okay. So I would love to get the source. And I'm sure
it's available somewhere.
I don't know. I'll listen to the source. It's like 53 minutes.
Okay. And the source, there was no gap there that was put in
there. Not pregnant like that is?
Well, they did a shitty job because you should at least have
taken a sample of the crowd or something that you can insert
there instead of just dead sight. I mean, they killed it.
It's zero dB.
It sounds unnatural. That's what piqued my interest. Yeah. So I
just want to let let people know the spells. We got to get back
on that kid. Yeah, this is how the spills work with the
mainstream media. And I just want to
Yeah, and we've seen this with back in the day. This is one of
the famous example there was a heckler Obama had a heckler.
This is where he was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, hey, hey, hey, you know, but that way,
that was the it went on for like 17 minutes. But on the news,
President Obama, you know, dealt with a heckler today, where he
really lost against that heckler, you know, so the media
has covered up for Obama in many ways, but this is a new one. I
agree. This is it. This is a new little trick they're doing.
And the words that like Kevin, Sam use, you can't make this
issue up. Number five, use the backside of the clip. Okay, I'll
start it over at the beginning.
From justice, an opportunity that hope spreads, it starts
rippling.
It enters into each of us. We get a sense of what is possible.
And we remind ourselves of those better angels of our nature.
See, it's up to you. Let's make history happen right here.
So positive is jarring. And it was the Obama show in Miami
today. No Democrat does it quite like the 44th president. He was
stumping for Bill Nelson and Andrew Gilliam, who's now ahead
of his Republican opponent in the race for governor by almost
three points in the polling average. But if you were
watching that rally this afternoon, you probably noticed
the regular interruptions by protesters. Instead of using
that classic Trump rhetoric. I'd like to punch him in the face.
Here's how Obama handled it.
This is what I look forward to is having a few hecklers to get
me back in the mood. Enjoy, you always gotta have a few. In
order to know that you're on the campaign trail. It tells you
something interesting.
Even the folks who are in charge are still mad because they're
getting ginned up to be mad. That's, that's the man's that's
the mindset. So you want somebody who's actually going to
work for working people? Andrew Gillum somebody
Oh, isn't that interesting? Did they cover up the heckler there
as well? I mean, they certainly didn't.
He brought the heckler game
thing and you are quiet about it. That's I liked I liked that
about you more. You're able to not not spoil a good one.
Oh, I think Obama brought the heck
William. Oh, shoot man Dvorak and I have have have thought
about this as well. It makes total ready
you get me?
Going? Yeah. Excellent. Excellent observation. Too
funny.
I guess we'll get number six.
First of all, I watched all of ofers events. Yesterday, I
watched all the Oprah has become Obama and Obama has become
Oprah. But they are really undeterred by Trump's negative.
They are embodying Michelle Obama's and they go low, we go
high. But they the difference between 16 and 18 seems to be
they want that to translate to big victories.
Well, Oprah yesterday, just really blew my mind and how she
was so inspirational. And she was urging everyone to be part
of something that's bigger than themselves. It's bigger than
their day to day sacrifice, sacrifice that's about our
ancestors sacrifice about their ancestors sacrifice. And that's
something you just never see in Donald Trump's rhetoric. It's
not ever about serving or it's always about him. Exactly. So I
think that's why it's refreshing to hear a message that's about
what you can do for other people what you can do for your country
and make yourself better than Process Two.
The other thing that's remarkable about Obama seeing
sort of each party's best surrogates on the stump is, if
you've won twice, like Obama has. You're really good at this.
And you are made better by the hecklers. I mean, I watched his
speech and his whole vibe changed after he got home. He's
you want to fight? I gotta. I gotta fight. I've still got
fighting
me. Yeah, I think you're right. Mo. You nailed it. Rent a
heckler.
It's the glass of water. Yeah. You know, I'm a firm believer
that beer gate was staged. Oh, yeah. firm believer that.
Because he just happened to be Henry Louis Gates. All people of
all of all people. But yeah, so you heard Obama was in rare form
coming out for his guy. Give him Yeah. And, and I can just
imagine it's like one of those 911 questions like when 911 ever
happened? What if this vote goes away? Or Florida?
Do you think that Gillum actually could have won Florida?
Do you think he had that shot? I mean, it was pretty close. If I
recall, during the leader with
the machines, yeah. But that we'll get to that maybe a little
later. All right. It wasn't definitely a test run going on.
But I digress. But let's go and get into number seven.
He would always talk about how to be a game night player. Yeah,
he the way he waits for the lights to go on for him to
really step into his game. And in this case, it was the
hecklers and such. He said so dissonant his his tone, his
energy versus what we're seeing from the current president,
which he's President Trump is all about grievance and anger.
And Trump in Obama is much more about hope and trying to uplift
the people he's talking to. Now the Senate Democrats would be
this not running again. Oprah Winfrey, at least not now is not
a candidate. They don't seem to have a current political figure
who perhaps who could run for office run for president a
couple of years who possesses that type of Christian charisma
and energy that we just saw there.
He you laughed out loud during everything. I could talk about
that?
Well, no, I just it again, I haven't. It's normally
aberration from what we're seeing from this president. But
it's also not representative of what we're seeing on the stump
from Democrats. It's a really different tone. I mean, you
know, Avinash, he's not giving that speech. He's saying not
only will I lock up Trump, I'll bring my own handcuffs, right.
So we are seeing on the left, you know, Eric Holder, when they
go low, we'll kick them Hillary, we can't be civil. There is an
energy on the left for we're sick of this unity crap. We're
sick of the hope and change. We want blood.
But the brightest stars in the cycle are Gillum, who I think
has embodied a lot of Obama's Beto and Stacey Abrams. So I
don't I wouldn't put Abinadi in the front runner category.
It's amazing how my head is in the middle of all this stuff and
how quickly you forget. Right? I mean, and of course it comes
rushing back, just hearing these clips. But if he was the golden
child, totally.
He was the guy. And you can hear oh, he brings the positivity but
Abinadi so you mentioned Avanade. Yes, it was the same
thing brought him up. Let's do some parallels here. Because you
said something about Obama. I was gonna put it in the show.
There may be something more for last tapes. But Larry Sinclair,
yes. That would be the equivalent to stormy Daniels.
Yeah, so yes, you're right. Right,
even with having weird lawyers. See that lawyer for Larry
Sinclair was a piece of work. He actually wore a kilt. Oh, my
goodness. It's been so long ago. Yeah, you're right. You're
right.
So how they amplified? Stormy Daniels? Yeah, because most
people don't even know what I'm talking about when I say Larry
Sinclair, unless you're in deep,
yes. Well, I'm going to put Larry Sinclair in the show notes
for everybody. Okay, so check him out.
He made some explosive claims about drugs. And he had,
he had, he had literal receipts.
And this makes me wonder, well, we'll get there. So you heard
they were all in for Gillum. The whole Democratic Party was in
their in their in their form. What happened? Now, that's what
we need to figure out. But
well, what happened is Joe Biden happened. I'd say that, you
know, that would be the number one thing. But and we say
this because I can't I don't want to make sure I'm not being
double minded, it may be the best word. This is our turn.
Obama. Three p three P
this one this Joe Biden a term? Yes.
So this is universal Obama's DOJ. Right? That this guy. Okay.
All right. I don't know if it's still goggles or not. But so
what I'm feeling now is Obama has someone in mind, and we've
got to clear everybody out of the way who might interrupt that
flow. Exactly. Big Mike for president, everybody
could beat me maybe. Because that would give him four and
five. And now what now? We're talking FDR territory. Yeah. Or,
or his papa Poppy, who had a nice little run there as well.
Sure did. I think those flags are still have flags for him.
Um, let's see. So this is kind of seeped out during that
election. And I think it's in 2018 when they have their
governorates down there. So let's go ahead and get into this
revelation about Gillum. Number eight,
on the FBI investigation, I and nor is the City of Tallahassee
under FBI investigation, we have been completely cooperative in
their process. We've made every public record that we have
available to the public on a searchable website. And what
we've said is that if anyone has done anything illegal, or
untoward that they ought to be held fully accountable for it.
Contrast that to how DeSantis and Trump have dealt with the
FBI, they've undermined them even going so far as to suggest
a deep state. Now, my point is, is that I've served for 15 years
not by doing well, but by doing right, I do have friends that
have been a member of the lobby court and they were friends
before they were ever members of the lobby court. But that in no
way such as it should suggest that I would do anything illegal
or inappropriate. My integrity is intact and is always been in
tech and I get the criticisms from my opponents. But I want
people to measure me and value me by what I've done
a new poll out just this afternoon from Public Policy
Polling shows Gillum has a four point lead over Republican Ron
DeSantis.
I remember it. I remember it now. Four
point lead points. Yeah. Now we got no great add on occur,
because we know the posters. Definitely had a tilt tune.
Yeah. But he was under investigation doing the race.
We're not what he was. Not say under investigation, but it was
some loose threads hanging out there. And if you go to his
Wikipedia page, and this is not dude, getting down on Gillum.
This is to say he's had protection before why now? Why
get thrown up under the bus like that when we only had to have
that prosecute that case? Was he?
Was he making any noise? Was there heat on him about maybe
running for 2024? Was there anything that you picked up?
Ah, let's listen to number nine and then we can get maybe the
answer your question.
You know, I remember in 2018 when we had the recount, and we
were down there in Broward County, and every single vote
truck that was coming in seals were broken on the back. It
really was a primer for what they did in 2020 in 2018 in
Florida with the gubernatorial election, and early on in 2017.
Now it's late 2017 early 28 When I reported that Andrew Gilliam
was having gay, drug fueled orgies, I reported that he was
involved with these lobbyists when he was mayor of
Tallahassee, getting them sweetheart deals. And when you
look at the indictment that came out yesterday, 19 counts of wire
fraud, and then lying to the FBI, some of the key players
involved in that, that are that remain unnamed. But you can tell
by the transactions and the monies that went through are the
same exact people I was talking about. And they said, Jake, you
can't talk about his sexuality. It doesn't matter. And I said,
No, it's not about his sexuality. It's about being
compromised. Because if you got elected governor, and he was
doing this kind of stuff that he was doing in his private life
now, three years later, when we expose them in the hotel room,
passed out covered vomit, after the orgy. What what would have
happened in our state? Alex, what would have happened in
Florida? What kind of crooked developer what kind of crooked
globalist what kind of crooked Soros scheme was going to be
pushed through because they had the goods on him?
Yeah, it was pretty pretty much compromised.
So this is Jacob Engels. And he's the one that he's just for
full transparency. He is a conservative leaning reporter.
But he also is gay. So you have to kind of throw that out the
window. Right? He was saying like that the the binary of the
heterosexual gets homosexual, they're both gay. So they know
that that's the thing. He didn't expose him because he's gay. I'm
sure he exposed him for political gain. Sure. But he
makes some claims that 2018 in Florida was a test run for what
happened in 2020. With elections? Could that be that's
why I wanted to play that clip. Could that be the loose thread
that give them presents?
Possibly. This is all I know, you're going somewhere with
this. So I'm a little lost right now. I've got I mean, there's 20
Different me
where you're at, or me because I've laid out a lot here. So I'm
still
at, okay, at the bases with this third term Obama agree. And he's
looking for a fourth and he had a it's the same thing. He has
someone in mind, and it certainly isn't Andrew Gillum.
Right, because the things like like the things that he's been
identified as, quote, unquote, negatives, him coming in or
saying Being out as a, quote, unquote, gay man, that's a
positive to his
party was that but that wasn't known was it? It was on the DL.
He has a he has a wife and kids.
Right? He does have a wife and kids and that that's one of the
things that could be a negative, but
just for his wife, certainly.
Well, we'll get
Oh, boy. All right. We'll get there.
Now what is this day, I'm trying to I'm trying to wrap my head
around. This department of justice hasn't done anything to
any politician. Now, all of a sudden, you get the guy I think
they got him on. They was investigating one time but for
Hamilton tickets. He's had a sketchy past. I'm not gonna say
that whatever. It's like you have a corrosion and misuse
investigation station and wiki. There's some smoke there. But
but not that can't be covered up by a party that looks at you. As
a Oh, no,
of course the party could be way more contender. Yeah, the party
could do all kinds of stuff for him. Of course.
This looks like an inside job. Yes. Or, or is it that the FBI
is fragmented? And this is a rogue Red Seal?
I don't see much evidence of that. I mean, you see how
they're embarrassing these Trump people and arresting him at
airports throwing him and leg irons and shit. I mean, so it's
a pretty radical FBI, but I don't see him doing much good
for the reds.
The way I see this going down is Hey, Andrew, if it's blue
helping blue is like hey, Andrew, you might stopping by
the office. We need to talk to you for a little bit, you know,
come in the back door.
Mr. Gillam
is not headlines. It's not hitting this, this is not the
way it goes. So we gotta put 2020 out there, the walking is
the wind down election. He may have some inside knowledge to
that. Um, and maybe that's why they, you know, sought to clean
him up. But let's get into part two of Jacob Engels.
I think Alex they saw him as a future political commodity, but
they saw him as a little bit of a free spirit. So I think what
happened there, he hires the mail. score. A couple of other
people are in the room. And they're doing these really
extreme things. And remember in the police report, they didn't
release the police body cam footage. But in the police
report when the police entered the room, he was so incoherent
he could barely stand he was falling over. He couldn't speak
he couldn't even give a statement. So I think something
something is afoot there where maybe he went off the leash a
little bit and they had
they may have forced drugged him too. I mean, he may be the
victim. I'm I'm not sure. I mean, this, this looks really
bad.
Yeah, and that's that's a potential thing too. Because
just seeing that the third
point is this is how they get back to defibrillator. Exactly.
This is how they compromise people. Talk about the
defibrillator professional know what that is, that's the paddles
they use or restart your heart. Who the hell has that?
Well, interestingly enough, the male escort that was with Gillum
happened to be a emergency room nurse who brought his whole kit
with him. So very powerful drugs that are not on the street. So
they were loose to me speculatively, like they were
really good right to drug him out of his mind to compromise
him. And in case that happened, they had a defibrillator there,
this, who should be indicted, my view is the people that brought
defibrillators and all these drugs.
Well, and let's get even more into this. Why hasn't the body
cam footage been released? Where we would see the faces of the
other men in the room? We know there was the male prostitute
but we don't know the other two individuals in the room. Why is
that? Why can't that footage be released?
It's very dark down this rabbit hole Mo. Okay, new perspective.
I didn't know any of this. This is good. I like it. Okay, so we
could have spy versus spy. So maybe this was a hit job by the
reds. Or someone to compromise him?
Or nasty?
Or or or or if we look yes, it is. If you look at you know how
I Obama was run. I'm pretty convinced he was compromised
from the get go and they've always controlled him with that.
Correct. But for people in that room who was the other two
people in the room? Because I want to what are accounted for
is Gillum.
Where's my where's my 60 Minutes interview with any of these
people?
Where was Hunter Biden that night?
No.
Boy, you're a drunk party. Well, Hunter is not a party at all.
Okay, now I'm just saying like, who was the body cam?
Here's the hunter right now.
I'm on black man, you idiot area. Yeah. So let's see here.
We got a drug food fuel party. For people body cam footage gets
totally Epstein. And um, we don't know who else is in that
room. If I tell you this, this is a hell of a story. This is
the one I want to talk about. Because it's got so many moving
pieces to it. So I love it. Let's go back. Let's go back to
the CBS Miami report of this event that happened in that room
that night. What's falling
breaking news now out of Miami Beach where former gubernatorial
candidate Andrew Gillum was involved in an incident possibly
involving crystal meth in Miami Beach overnight. According to
Miami Beach incident report, he was inside of a hotel room at a
building on 1100 West Avenue where a man was treated for a
possible drug overdose. The man was transported to the hospital.
Another man was able to tell police what happened but when
officers went to speak to Mr. Gillam. They say he was unable
to communicate because he was so inebriated. Officers report
finding three small clear plastic baggies containing
suspected crystal meth on the bed on the floor of the hotel
room. Police Report, give them left the hotel room and returned
home without incident. There have been no arrests and Gillum
just released a statement it reads in part, I was in Miami
last night for a wedding celebration. When first
responders were called to assist one of my friends all that had
too much to drink. I want to be clear that I have never used
methamphetamines. I apologize to the people of Florida for the
distraction This has caused our movement. He went on to say he
is going to spend the next few weeks with his family and
appreciates the privacy at this time.
poor sucker.
Alex may have a point he may be the
victim. Yeah. When I heard that, I was like, Okay, I didn't
really consider that.
But they say the cops talk to a third person. Yeah, who was that
third person? And for the life of me, I can never find out who
the people in this room
like I'd like I like your Hunter Biden theory. I think Hunter
Biden and Malia Obama I mean, it's obvious. They're the drug
no party
like a party. That's right. But me, of course is crystal meth.
So that's not hunters thing. No,
I think he everything his thing. I think he's okay with that.
But what we're laughing about this, but then he just gets the
walk away. I mean, we found meth on the bed. And Andrew Gillum
gets the walk away with now he's being re reeled in arraigned in
our some maybe bookkeeping.
I'll be honest with you, I don't even know exactly what i Yeah,
wire fraud charges, but that can be all kinds of stuff. So I'm
not even sure exactly what he did. So what happened was I,
here's here's how it read my impression, okay, because I did
mention the story and didn't dive into it. The impression I
got was he had tried to raise funds from somebody under false
pretense, and that was that can be considered wire fraud. Yeah,
that we're basically have like a shell company, that we're
raising money and then his partner, which we won't get to
later. We're gonna get, we're gonna get to the partner, but
this is the killer right now. She was wiring the money to him
from the fund. And that's why you get the wire? Yeah, of
course. Yes, of course. And what the what was the most
interesting charge to me, was lying to the FBI. It's like,
they don't have to put that on there. This is Joe Biden slash
Obama's FBI. Right. Why to lie into the air? Because that's
like, that's the automatic guilty when they hit you with
that? Yeah. Because they pretty much had Have you did the right
when they thought that charge on you. You can beat all the rest
of them. But that lie to the FBI. Now it gets you every
chance. They won't. We've seen get people over and over and
over again. Yeah. So but he gets to walk away from a meth party.
But you get brought in for moving money around? Yeah. Which
is very common in politics.
Yeah. And that could have been the staying or I mean, there's
all kinds of that seems like a much more sophisticated way of
just taking a guy down.
And going back. Let's go back to what I mentioned before, the
headlines. Clyburn, showers, family members with over 200k in
campaign funds, right. Maxine Maxine water pays daughter
another 24k in campaign K.
Now they could have easily added Pelosi, which she's done with
her husband and her son, certainly in Ukraine, but she's
missing a key feature.
It's amazing how they I mean, her husband is allegedly driving
around drunk. Yeah, and this is like, oh, no, no charges. No,
but we starting to see these headlines that all this like
that's what starts the rabbit hole.
And I will say that is an albatross around. Nancy Pelosi,
his neck this there are people not letting this go?
No, but he still did it because I say so. And then the cops he's
dropped the charges. i Oh, no. Yeah. And it's expected. That's
the crazy thing about this expected for it to be done that
way. It's like, oh, yeah, he'd be out. As
everyone said, it is not going to be a problem. No mug shot, no
nothing.
And so I'm asking once again, why is Gillum being treated the
way he was treated? So let's get more into the details of that
night with number 12.
We're getting our first look at evidence from the overdose
emergency involving former gubernatorial candidate Andrew
Gilliam
and we're talking about a very messy hotel room with drugs
scattered everywhere. Local 10 News reporter Lauren Livingston
is live on South Beach to show us learn.
So Police tell us back on March 13, Andrew Gillum was so
inebriated when they got here to the Mondrian, South Beach Hotel
that he could not even speak with those officers who
responded here. And so now we're seeing and hearing some of what
those first responders saw and heard when they made it here to
the hotel that night.
It's around 1am March 13. Miami Beach police make their way into
the Mondrian South Beach Hotel and up to the 11th floor. The
first knock goes on answered seconds later. That's when
things literally get blurry. For privacy reasons. The audio also
goes silent. Police encountered me and barely dressed if I
stop. Yeah, the camera goes blurry.
Yes. And the audio goes silent.
I just want to point that out to people. It's amazing how that
can I just check No,
it's a glitch glitch.
For privacy reasons. Oh, it was on answered seconds later.
That's when things literally get blurry. For privacy reasons. The
audio also goes silent. police encounter a man barely dressed
if at all. You can make out what appears to be Miami Beach Fire
Rescue medics moving around the room. At one point police direct
what appears to be a nude man to the bathroom. He's questioned
and later takes a seat.
Yeah. For a didn't that wasn't a glitch. For privacy reasons,
privacy reasons,
who are we hiding?
You better have an answer for that Mo. I'm telling me crazy.
I don't but I'm just saying like they tells you who could be in
that room to say, hey, we need that camera off and we need
that. Tell the cops. Yeah. Somebody who had the power to
tell the cops. Hey, we need that camera cut off and we need that
microphone turned down. And it just look over two bags of
crystal meth on the floor. Alright, and we're gonna let
everybody go home. Huh? Yeah, I'm
kind of kicking myself that I never even really thought this
deeply about it at the time.
Which is kind of cool. Well, okay. It's only a few people.
Well, that was also during the Obama era. It was it was,
was it not? No, no, this was Trump. This is Trump Trump era.
So Trump was DOJ
Trump. That's what I'm saying. Trump's DOJ Trump, right. No
charges. All of a sudden charges. Charges. Well, you've
just been protected before and where they protect and Gillum
obviously not because he was laid out nude in his own vomit.
But we're protecting the other two people in the room. Yeah,
that's when it goes quiet. Yeah.
I want to know.
Hopefully somebody can help us out. Let's get the second part.
We need to
know the call came in about a suspected drug overdose. Andrew
Gillum husband, father and rising star in the Democratic
Party. The first black nominee of a major party when he ran for
Florida governor was one of three men found inside that
hotel room. Police say although my heels came back to the room
where he found Gillum and Travis Dyson under the influence of an
unknown substance. Gillum, who'd reportedly been found vomiting
in the bathroom was later allowed to leave the hotel to go
home. Police also released these photos showing the mess left
behind stained pillowcases and sheets, pills and bottles of
pills spilled in various places. Police also removed what they
suspected to be three small bags of crystal meth. Police say
those suspected drugs were eventually impounded. No
criminal charges were ever filed and Gilliam claimed he was here
in South Florida for a wedding. He has since apologized and says
he never has used methamphetamines. But he did say
that after that unsuccessful bid for governor he did fall into
depression started abusing alcohol and he has since entered
into rehab. We reached out to all three of the men who were
involved in this incident that night. have not yet heard back.
We're live here in Miami Beach there Livingston, local 10 News.
Here what I hear in that report is what I find a little odd is
tons of pills, not mentioned what it is just thrown about
opens like if you're doing crystal meth, you're doing
crystal meth. I don't think you're also popping pills and
you're certainly not just leaving to stop. I don't know. I
mean, it sounds like they set up a nice little scene for the
cameras is what it sounds like.
And at the end of Jacob Engels clip Alex over spoke him where
he said they had droves you can't even get on the street,
right?
Which is maybe because that came from the nurse. Right?
But now I'm gonna tell you something culturally, and then
we're gonna go down to our sub rabbit hole just for a minute
here. Um, when he said crystal meth the first thing and this is
this may be an ignorant take, but just this is a reflex kind
of thing. I was like black people don't smoke crystal meth.
Now they do. But that's just the first thing I was like, Is that
more poor white weird drug of choice?
Are we poor white people thing?
That's like, yeah, that's like the equivalent to crack. You
know, like, that's just showing me Of course, we were speaking
in general general generality, of course, you know, but that
was kind of that's what also stuck out to me like he's
partying with math.
Well, I don't know. Is it a gay thing math. 14.
In the gay male world, we've seen this really upfront. I've
seen people get become homeless. I've seen and it's sort of fused
The dopamine hit is fused with another dopamine hit, which
often forgetting that is the first time they have sex or the
first time they, they realized who they are. And a lot of that
is sexual. So you add the sexual dopamine hit to this
intensification of hit. And the addiction is extraordinarily
powerful and not very few people come back and after they've come
back, I mean, I have friends who've also come back, it takes
them years to have a sexual experience, find meaningful or
pleasurable. It's amazing what this does to people. I'm, I'm
genuinely shocked by it, how it is destroying it. The way people
describe it is it doesn't just take them It takes their soul
somehow, they don't become the people they become someone else.
And I've never seen no one, you
know, I would say that. Yes, I would say that in speaking with
people after I spoke with Eric Barrera, I was really my story
was really going to be at first going to be just about this
enormous supply that they were the capacity of production and
all that. And then he told me that's when I began to say,
well, the capacity production has allowed Matt to be all over
the country than these symptoms logically must be in some degree
all over the country as well and so began to tie in.
So yes, gay sex and math is the thing is the thing. And this is
the who was speaking was that Sam Quiznos Quinn nos, I think
how you pronounce it, and he wrote the book, the least of us
true tales of America and, and hope in the time of fitting all
the meth. Fentanyl gets all the headlines. Yeah. But this
industrial quality man, they're pumping out of Mexico, in
pharmaceutical grade labs. Is Yeah, I didn't have the clip.
Just you know, just to keep the show, you know, and a decent
length. But it's a report of the Superman.
Super myth.
Nice. is so clean that the I'm not speaking completely from a
knowledge standpoint, but this is how the reports are related.
Yes,
Mexican super meth, I see it right here
is that the impurities is what caused mass smokers to stop
smoking. Because they will get so harsh. The fact that this
meth is so clean, keeps everybody going. It keeps you
smoking. And that's when you see these people, one deteriorate
super fast to these zombie light things on and I'm what I'm
saying things. They're no longer you heard the guys that steals
your soul. So just think about what Superman does. And you
smoke in high quantities. And it's so cheap now. Because it's
coming out of Mexico. Right? So people just keep an eye on that.
Superman.
Yeah, send us some samples. Please know. I've kept some
things in my day, man, but meth is not one of them.
And just as another quick aside, Adderall is nothing but legal
maths. True. It's true. This be leaning to the hand in hand with
promiscuous. The I said that wrong. promiscuity that we're
seeing with
Oh, man. Yes, you know, so I have actually tried Adderall
just to see what the kids were doing. And I was like, No, I was
up for a full 24 hours. It's like, What is this crap? This is
nuts. It's not fun. It's not good. Now I can understand where
if you use it, you micro dose or whatever. I can see how someone
could totally get into it. But yeah, this is just another one
to chalk. I mean, Adderall at the college level. It I mean,
it's like Bitcoin. You know, people are settling it trading
it doing all kinds of stuff. Hey, you got a prescription?
Yeah, I need some I'll sell it to you. I sell to you. I mean,
it's crazy how prevalent that is.
Right. And is that a driver for my beat? I
hadn't, you know, it's I've always focused on SSRIs as being
a big problem. Let's just add this to it. For sure.
Yeah. Because as you see, the two tie ins have two dopamine
hits between sex. And I know it's not exclusive to gay men.
So you tie in math and sex in general? Yeah. And Adderall is
entered at such an early age. Yeah. Could that be you know,
some of what's going on here, but I just want to lay it out.
I'm
sure it's not helping. Or it is it is helping depending on how
you look at it.
Once I realized I was like, okay, meth meth. I've heard that
before.
Oh, right. Yes, exactly. injection of meth.
Hi, everybody. Once again, we are live at the federal
courthouse. This is Wendy birch. We apologize for any audio
difficulties that we had earlier, but we want to bring
you the very latest that in the federal trial. gets Ed buck, the
former prominent democratic contributor. He has now been
found guilty of all nine federal charges. That verdict coming
down just about 30 minutes ago. Now, the charges are extensive.
There are at least two counts of providing methamphetamine to a
victim that resulted in death for additional counts of
providing methamphetamine, one count of using his West Los
Angeles Department as a drug use layer and two counts of paying
for interstate travel for the purpose of prostitution. All of
these are significant charges. He has been found guilty and all
of them, there are maximum sentencing, it is likely that 66
year old Ed Buck will spend the rest of his life in a federal
prison. Now, this case came to light a few years back when
there were a number of men, mostly black men that were
overdosing in the presence of Ed buck and two of those young men
died in his apartment in West Hollywood, one of them being 26
year old Jim Elmore, the other one that being 55 year old
Timothy Dean.
Yeah, Ed buck, big Democrat Party donor, they finally got
him.
But did you hear anything about that? They were finally getting
him.
Well, this, this was much more of a story than Gillum for sure.
The reason I said we knew they had arrested him
being found guilty. Yeah, that was just a couple of weeks ago,
I think.
No, this comes from July 27. No, 2021? No, I
think his his, his sentencing was just a few weeks ago, I
believe. Oh, maybe. He was convicted of nine federal
charges in 2021 on April 14 2022. So a couple months ago,
Buck was sentenced to 30 years in prison. You didn't I mean, I
knew what happened. And I remember again, it was all but
there was a lot going on. It was not M five M coverage. It
definitely warranted it because this was a big ass donor.
Everyone's in pictures with him. What he did was despicable and
30 years is not you know, he'll die in prison, basically.
But he's a serial killer. Yes,
of course he is. Yes.
No, just let him know that that goes to show I weaved all this
together to show you when they want to come up with story. They
can cover up and cover it up. Yeah. Even if you're killing
black gay men. Who is right up there. I mean, like, I mean,
being black and gay. I mean, that's pretty high on the totem
pole. Yeah, I mean, you were the one that passed pesky man part.
If it was Rue Paul or something like that, and they might be a
bigger story. No, no.
No, Ed bucks the money man.
He was the money man.
He makes things happen. And that goes to show you that they
covered it up. And if they wanted to cover it forgive them.
They did. Hey.
I'm with you. You've got me convinced. They covered up and
and for reasons yet unknown.
So and what is this? Like? I said, What is this thing? What
Ed? But what is this? Is this like a thing with meth and gay
sex for the Democratic Party? I mean, like, we're just not
specifically remember drugs. We act like we don't have a
president who? I know. Bringing up Hunter, but I have to
juxtapose him. Yes. To everything. To everything.
Yeah, got that. Right. Yeah, that right there. No, it proves
it. Just like that story. We saw everything that DOJ is not going
after. I mean, there's some investigation supposedly. Yeah,
I mean, the IRS may be investigating him supposedly,
you know, then there's some things going on. But yeah, in
general is completely covered up and it's to the degree where the
emperor has no clothes. Literally, the emperor has no
clothes. We don't see that with Emperor's looks great.
In a bookstore, he was like one of the first cases Oh, pre
Hunter. Yeah, of saying, Hey, if you want to write to the media,
we're not covering the gallery. And let's just go ahead and get
to 16.
During the two weeks of testimony, there were more than
eight men that spoke in this trial, and at times, the
testimony was harsh and difficult for even the jurors to
hear. So much of it involves graphic testimony of Edie bucks
alleged sexual fetishes, and his desire, said the prosecution to
inject methamphetamine into his victims against their will. Now
two of those victims, of course could not testify and that was
more indeed most of them died in that apartment more dying
exactly four months ago today. His family now is speaking to
the press. We have a live camera just steps away from me. Let's
listen in.
I'll just add this thing to show you that he's telling the truth.
We have a council member behind you at City Hall named Paul
curettes, who told a group of people that all of ebooks
victims were nothing but disadvantaged black hustlers.
And that is how a lot of the politicians looked at his
victims, which is why they like Paul Kretz never returned his
money never even tried to acknowledge this case, we won
the Democratic Party, of which I'm a member of, because like
Sammy said, it wasn't just the investigators and the sheriff's
department. It was the politician. It was the media
worried about getting sued by AD bog, it was everybody. And so I
think we all feel vindicated today. Like, you know, finally.
Hmm. Not on the Democratic Party. Yes.
We feel what we get boo.
Yeah. And the reason why from their stance and not just judge
people by their own standards, from the democratic standards,
first of all, you have a black man being killed by a white man.
Okay. Yep. And that black man happens to be gay. Yep. Chan,
that black man is being drugged against his will check for
sexual purposes, and even to murder him. Check.
Congratulations, you're here, you can no score here, you can
now run for president.
So now you see that it really doesn't matter. All those that
mean, they fall under black lives matter. They fall into
pride, they fall under sexual victims, drug addicts, all these
I mean, all of these different groups and, and, you know,
agendas, and nobody wanted to take on their story all because
why a book was the money man. Can't make it up. And a lot of
heat. And I want to I keep bringing this back. Because for
what she said today. We're hustlers.
Yeah, that's a lot. That's pretty rude man. That mean,
these are people too.
Right? These are gay black men. They're victims of sex crimes.
The way she said that now, actually, I want to go back and
play that again, where she,
of course could not testify. And that was more indeed alleged
sexual fetishes. And his
to show you that he's telling the truth. We have a council
member behind you at City Hall named Paul curettes, who told a
group of people that all of Ed books, victims were nothing but
disadvantaged black hustlers. And that is how a lot of the
politicians looked at his victims, which is why they like
Paul curettes never returned his money. Yeah,
yeah. Yeah. And that is, unfortunately, I think, spot on
and on message for the Democratic Party, today's
Democratic Party.
And it's the same people. Yeah, at the same time are giving
these men free meth pipes. So they can have a more pleasurable
experience. Yeah, crack pipes. Yeah, thank thank you for
putting that out there that's straight and opening up the
border. So this super myth could flow a flood over? It seems like
they're creating a market for their fetish. How many they'll
keep it 100 with you. That's what it seems like to me, like,
oh, let's keep them hooked. And we can just go down like Ed Buck
did and we can find SEC survivors. So that's what they
are. They're SEC survivors. And that's why they call them
hustlers because they use sex to survive. A lot of these guys are
not even textbook gay. There's they're a market. Yeah. No, I'm
just saying I mean, so we got to humanize these people. And the
reason why I'm just being so flip it about it, because that's
how they seem just as a demographic, oh, your pride or
your black lives matter. Oh, you're,
you're just a hustler. You're just a hustler.
Right, so they want to discard them. Oh, it's like, are you in
there's no red insight in this case. So that's the thing we're
talking about in a vacuum here. Yeah, that goes to show that
these politicians don't care about you. So I want to get into
what actually what survival sex is, is a throwback from show
eight. And this is Tiffany Graham.
survival sex is an enormous issue to LGBTQ youth between the
ages of 10 and 25 are 70% more likely to engage in survival
sex, while 80% of homeless transgender youths are more
likely to have engaged in survival sex than homeless
cisgender youths? Now, what do we mean by survival sex. In
principle, survival sex is part of the wider commercial sex
trade. People who engage in survival sex to do so because
they literally have no other way to survive. So they exchange sex
for money, they exchange sex for shelter, they exchange it for
food, clothing, or any other good, which is a necessity of
life.
And Metaphorically speaking, you know, what we've discussed over
the past 82 shows it fits right in with the overall image of the
Democratic Party, when it comes to black Americans don't give a
shit.
They don't. Even more than that it's not like is this neglect?
Neglect fullness? You know, I'll be, you know, saying neglect is
no, we're praying, we're gonna create policies and programs,
that's going to provide more drugs, better ways to use drugs.
So we create this market that can be preyed on by Democrats
and Republicans. It's that like, we don't want that predators on
both sides out. But I'm just saying who has the leverage
right now? Yeah. And who's more jokes? You know? Nothing about
fitting No.
No, interesting.
And I mean, I'm sure you had I mean, I don't know if he had
heard of Superman before. He knows what I have never heard
of. Yeah. This is what's being pumped in the streets. And then
a little older, just homeless. No, a lot of these guys men or
boys, because he said 1010 years old. That's pedophilia. This is
the pizza party, folks. I know people get triggered when I say
that. But this is the pizza party. It ain't just a book. It
ain't just just laying Maxwell. It ain't no. This is a system.
And it's global. Oh, yeah. It's how you
know. Anybody else?
Yes. I'm always very careful with these conversations. I'm
cool with it here on the podcast. But like I did, I just
start discussing this on a radio station in the Netherlands back
in the early 2000s. And it was about, interestingly enough, the
Dutch Justice Department, the attorney general, in fact, of
the Netherlands, and that case is still ongoing. Everyone
knows, everyone knows what the guy was into everybody. It's all
known, but it's just now we're just not going to move on it.
And I start, I brought this up and had a journalist on who had
gone pretty deep on this. And the station's license was pulled
and, and everything was gone two weeks later.
And the reason why I'm bringing this up is the more and more we
see in the news story, you know, teachers pushing this guy, you
know, these agendas, and, you know, people are not even being
sensible. And now it's to a point like, a straight up just
child abuse. Yes, not in public in broad daylight. And it's
already been normalized. Like, I mean, you heard Tiffany Graham,
I mean, she's the dean of you know, I mean, she's no, she's
the Dean of the University of South Dakota law school.
As much as I hate to say it, but, you know, this pedophilia,
and abusing children. I mean, the biggest cover up is still
the Catholic Church. I mean, it's like this, like, this shit
is covered up. That's why it's easy to say it's global. It's
across all kinds of, quote, unquote, industries.
And to be honest with you, I went limited to the Catholic
Church, but we'll get there a little later.
I know. But that's the one that's probably like, I mean,
everyone knows about it's one of their old now. Paths.
Right. So what I want to do now, before we get into the donation
segment, you want to hear an instant Boulay phone moment.
Sure. So you heard how she was trashing the politicians. And in
the print not not in the last clip, not Tiffany Graham, but
the woman who was speaking on behalf of the
Democrats, right, I figured she might get in trouble for saying
that.
All right, it's the blue light phone. It was
everybody. And so I think we all feel vindicated today. Like, you
know, finally. So
anyway, I just wanted to say one thing. Before we go, we are
tremendously proud and lucky to have gotten to work with our law
enforcement partners in the sheriff's department in FBI and
DEA, they put together a tremendous case, and we would
not have had the volume and quality of evidence without our
law enforcement partners who are the unsung heroes here so
it's so unusual to be feeling a bit absolutely shame on Jackie
Lacey that all that evidence Yeah, but I'm happy that we're
able to get it to you and I'm happy you guys
who stepped in there who was that?
I think it was the lawyer one of the lawyers. Would you see how
quick you Oh, yeah, she This is the mindset I'm talking about
because even in this politician thing is politics things. It's
their religion. It's not politics anymore.
cult. Cult.
Yeah. So what you heard her she was going on for everybody. Then
this lady steps and she's like, Oh yeah, you're right. I was
wrong instant Boulais phone.
Yeah. And then she topped it with something else like the
Who's that guy? You know the shame on you? Yeah, she
had a we have found another victim because she was
consciously aware of how she sounded doing, you know, saying
I wonder a degree turn. So she had to put the ire on somebody
else. So um, yeah. So that's the first block. That's that's the
Andrew Gillum. What happened that night, we're going to see
the fallout on the other side, and then the agendas that he's
in bed with. But before we do that, let's thank some people.
First, the
white man and the black men have to be able to sit down at the
same table, the white man has to feel free to speak his mind
without hurting the feelings of that negro. And the so called
Negro has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the
feeling of the white man, then they can bring the issues that
are under the rug out on top of the table and take an
intelligent approach to get the problem themselves. That's the
only way.
That's right value for value. That's what no facts with Adam
curry is all about. And it's very simple. None of this stuff
is discussed in the media. Why? Because you can't get away with
it. Your advertisers will be pulled if you're doing it on big
tech, for sure. Your your podcast or your blog, or your
tweets or whatever it is will be d monetized. I mean, we you
don't monetize on YouTube, but because you probably would be D
monetized right away. I mean, the only way this work can be
done is through the support of our producers who don't just
listen to the show, but you give us feedback information ideas,
time talent, treasure is what we call it and we love it when
people support the show financially. So let's thank our
executive producers for episode number 83 of moe facts with Adam
curry we start off right away with a
sad call out 20 his blades on I am Paula
big baller. Serrana must have lower Slobo via of Dogpatch and
lowers LeBeau via comes in for the second time I believe
supporting the show which is unbelievable with $3,000. Holy
moly,
movie money phone what was the cat get a Nextel shirt please I
have a mini Mani phones.
On I don't have I should have the trimmer explain to
you where the money phone is. That's when they take a stack of
cash and put it up to the air like a phone.
There it is. There's your chirp. Was there a note with this very
generous contribution.
It says from anonymous. Thank you period. And he's staying
with fresh blue ink from a sack of beans cheese. Bread. That's
the biggest baller. I mean, I don't think anybody's no not
that. So he's officially the biggest ball
biggest ball man this guy is and he's mysterious. He supported no
agenda. He supported podcasting. 2.0 mo facts. Whoever you are
synonymous, we really, really appreciate it. That really
helps. Certainly during the summer months. Big deal.
Thank you. I must do this. Thank you. Thank you. Yes, that's just
no, that's beautiful. That's beautiful. What just I know you
may be a little confused how to list this setup. Oh, yeah. Next
few people.
I know I can borrow people. I completely turn it all around.
So I screwed that up. I think you did. Oh, no. Do that then.
Okay. She'll be red. Yes, I've got the red. Now. What do you
want me to do with the red stuff here?
Yeah, cuz those are people. We appreciate all value and all
sizes. Those are people that donate through Venmo. And I
missed their donations. The last show. I wanted to put them right
to the top. I segmented it by more than $50 in less than $50.
Yes. What's gonna happen is we're gonna thank them upfront.
I think it's for people. And then we'll get to whoever is
next on this show. Because if we make a miss, we'll make good on
it. And we will make good on it. You got
it. All right. So we start now with 69 from Jeffrey Coyne. Yes.
Who says mo karma and a big vinegar deducing please keep up
the great show. Well, but we usually do deadbeat on the show.
So if you don't mind, you know, I'll give you a D deadbeat with
some vinegar there.
Congratulations. You're no longer dead.
You've got a
big vendor. Brian from work says love this show. Awesome. Will
Smith slap break down I've sent it to several people. I I should
have sent this a while ago but Dark Horse podcast did a good
breakdown of Miss DIS and Mal information. Episode 119 about
one hour and 40 seconds Okay, thank you very much and it's $50
from Brian from work thank you Brian. Hannah l $50. Lightning
Bolt and headphone emoji is that what came through on the Venmo?
Yes, I love that. It was lightning bolt Nice. Scott R
says thank you I'm learning a lot and $50 from him We're sorry
we missed you guys and we're caught up with that now we have
absurd observations with $250 Beautiful check email for know
did you have an email from absurd observation sent
you an email with a note? Let me see.
Goodness
It's somewhere in my stack of papers here
I have I have Alexander help Sir Alexander. Oh, here it is. Yes,
I got it. I'm sorry. I do have it. This is from the desk of
absurd observations dear Mo and Adam I was compelled to send in
some value for value again this time under the name I'd prefer
being used see above. You got it. In the last two episodes,
numbers 1881 Wow. You're bringing the fax machine to life
and I realize how much work this takes the respect and love you
both show each other during these is sorely lacking element
in the world today. We need more of this. And the pacification of
America I say often sigh keep it going I'm here for it. PS
hashtag plebs donate WTF you waiting for slackers? PSS Mo,
would you like some Banana Nut Bread? So he can choke on it? Is
that what you're saying? Yeah,
that's this. Yeah. Love and lit too.
All right now. Cool. Oh man. Thanks. Sir Alexander of middle
Cascadia and Sir Alexander sent us $200 And here's his note.
Even though he says it's not necessary to read I think we
should greetings not necessarily read on the show. Mo here's a
copy of the letter I sent to Adam sometime between his move
from Austin to the hill country so my bold prediction is you've
never seen the letter
that I not forwarded to you. I'm terrible emails.
Hell we love Adam to death but I suspect he couldn't find his ass
with both hands in the daylight without his wonderful keeper let
alone will trying to move etcetera. Thank goodness for
keepers because I'm in the same boat.
I hear you and I'm in that boat.
And that boat is not leaking the keep the boat afloat.
Housekeeping pretty sure I screwed up the Joe Rogan date in
my original letter should have been September 2020 Long story
why screwed it up involved the five day stay in intensive care
I'll fill you in someday if you really want to know you got the
great work Mad Love sir Alexandra of middle Cascadia and
he says found the Lost Tapes on bit shoot. Thank you. Yes soon
to be on podcasting. 2.0
Yes. And let me stop for a minute since we're speaking to
keepers. Can I get a biscuit? One of the biggest and warmest
biscuits for my wife, Mrs. Facts whose birthday is today? And if
you're listening I love you honey. They always give me a
biscuit on my birthday.
So sweet. And he does and he does I have it on good authority
he does. Happy Birthday Miss facts. Mrs. Facts. Onwards
174 29 interesting number Bernadine Cerny says monad um I
want to thank you for opening my white and crusted eyes to some
things It scales not crusty to some things that I never would
have even thought of jobs for that yeah right. This podcast
really is like taking a college level class but far superior to
anything US colleges could or would offer these days I started
listening to episodes twice just to make sure I didn't miss
anything I'm making this donation in honor of my husband
for the for Father's Day. Adam will know me as deemed black
hammer on the no agenda side but I'm no Dame on mo facts Mrs.
Black Hammer will have to do Happy Father's Day to my loving
husband and the father of my 10 Human Resources eight on the
ground to in heaven. See Mike, I love that you love me and I love
you right back please. D dead beat us. Got it.
Congratulations. You're no longer a dead baby.
keep the fire going. God bless numerology husband was born in
74 and two and nine are his favorite numbers. So just for
the value. I should stick a one in front of that wish it could
be more of this is Black Hammer. Thank you so much. They're
lovely. And they they're always at meetups and all the kids are
running around like nut jobs. And they do jingles are very
funny. So great family. And I appreciate that. We love him.
Yeah, we love it. Yeah, we love how you do it. Yeah, we all know
that you don't do it mo we all know it's Mrs. Facts who run
runs the house. Yes, this one runs the kids. Thank you very
much do your M $150 No No but we really appreciate that Nicole
Nicholas Robinson also 150 Keep up the great work mo please D
dead beat me sir carries
congratulations you're no longer a dead the Christian Jacobsen
12345 He says for all the entertainment and knowledge love
the show and that's it he sent a private note an email so I
presume you got that yes I do yeah anonymous comes in with a
row sticks 111 11 Please keep me anonymous you got it making good
on my end of the value proposition hit me with a cancel
cannon sloppy Q Oh, I guess sloppy Q is the is the anonymous
name love that Yes. Philip V Brown also known as kilo India
kilo one is at one kilo India five November TX I think. I
think it's TX
Oh, the houses are gonna get you well, don't get me for call you
hamsters can't
i or what? It must be an eyes so it's kilo India five November
Tango X ray, please D dead beat me that one. I understood.
Congratulations. You're no longer a dead beat.
We've got 110 from Walter faucet of the West who says mo thanks
for the creative and interesting content Gen X here grew up under
the doctrine of MLK enjoy your takes on where we are today and
where we seem to be going I to refuse the job but I was able to
keep my job with a religious exemption a donation here to
help out and a recurring amount monthly as well. I thank you for
the knowledge you bring to the table every episode all the best
from a not Walter water water faucet of the West. There we go.
I like water faucet. Walters? Pretty funny too. Yeah, water
faucets, faucet.
Since you mentioned that we got a lot of new subscriptions.
That's great. Excellent. And we had just this is PayPal data
only just to let people know how the value is coming. Oh, half of
the dough. Producers were new producers. Wow, that's
fantastic. Yeah, half the people that shared value this month
were new. So a lot of deadbeat dad being gone.
That's nice. And well. Welcome to the party pals. And and
thanks everybody who's been propagating the formula letting
everybody know about about Moe facts and I see that that's why
I share the information I said that a lot on Twitter it's so I
love it so much when people are plugged in the show and like you
know you got to get schooled by parents will be proud. Sadly,
they're not around to witness it. Well not in person. We got
two more here on the executive producers, we got John nunley
$100 little value for value to keep the fax machine running.
Appreciate that and Pamela M. with $100 that she sent in a
card for us.
Yes, she did. And it is a card. It has a nice pink hard on it on
the inside. It says love you both. Oh, thank you love the
car. And we have one last executive producer. That's
Robert stagger. thinks how you pronounce it. And he came in
with three donations combined to make 100
Holy crap. Okay, he's on here again with the
yes, 5025 and 25. Sorry, I
gotcha. Okay. Let me make sure I put him in here that as well.
That's why I did it like that. Because, yeah, this is this is
what caused the most anxiety. Any part of the show was putting
the donation list because I'm I was kicking myself for missing
people last time it is my worst nightmare. It's a
lot of it's a lot of eight. That's the one thing the systems
are so dispersed, it becomes a little complicated. So we're
doing our best if we miss you, just send us a note. We'll fix
it right up.
And you go right to the top of the list,
and we got Betty s with nine. We appreciate that Betty you know,
um, if you don't mind, I'm just gonna chip in here. I'm gonna
give I'm gonna give Betty that extra penny so she began as
executive executive producer. There you go. You don't mind.
Amy M $83. Hey, Mo and Adam. These are Associate Executive
producers for episode 83. Show Khloe and a show club donation
for 83 Yes, indeed. Bravo for 82 I think hating Disney Princesses
early on saved me. It's not my first donation but still need a
D dead beating. Thank you very much for the show WUSA for all.
Congratulations. You're no longer a debt.
Kyle Stefano, also known as Dane girl, Kyle, Kylie. Kyle, I think
it's Kylie. We do this wrong all the time. No, it's
Kyle. chastise you in the letter.
I got it. Thanks for the love from Dame girl Kyle. My name
seems to cause Adam some continued hilarious confusion.
It's just Kyle no extra eye in there. Not like Kylie Minogue or
Kardashian got it. Just like Kyle. They historically dude's
name, um, a girl named Kyle Boy Named Sue. I'll never forget
now. girl named Kyle Boy Named Sue. Adam needs to stop with a
gender normative naming and do the work. Just kidding, Adam,
you're my boo. I love you guys. Thank you. kiled girl named Dame
girl named Kyle. Now remember it? I hope Jonathan Faris with a
boob donation eight O dot o 8808. Greetings from the Baron
of southwest Kansas and Oklahoma Panhandle. Can I get a biscuit
for my belated birthday? Always give me a biscuit on my birthday
turn 49 on June 5. I also love boobs any color Tyler Boyd
missed the boobs but came in with $80 for keeping in keeping
truckin mo from Eastern bulk Turkey Eastern bowl right we
should say Turkey A is the new way to pronounce turkeys Turkey
a they've rebranded Did you know this that did not know that
Yeah. Oh no. They're doing a deal now with Sweden and with
Finland and their yeah oh yeah. So they're not there. You know
their money is collapsing so you might as well rebrand when that
happens it's Turkey a yes you ended at an A at the end now. So
we will try to keep that up. Thank you very much, Tyler and
send us a boots on the ground report map. So there's Jeffrey
coin with a 69 who we thanks from his previous donation
Brandon s $60.88. No note for him. Jean cables 5337 And that's
Australian dollars to US dollars.
He might be giving anonymous around for his money
I think it is like 1000 The Australian dollar reduced we
might be close we laughed gene but we feel really bad for you.
We were suffering
just like you are how might we come my way if we miss what
you're doing with your money collapse? You change your name
right?
Goodness anonymous M who would like to D douching. We d dead D
chair at the most show gratulations
you're no longer a dead the
capital T $50 And these are again Associate Executive
producers for episode 83 It's a real title you can use in any
way who will vouch for you please accept this value from a
regular Lowlander MoPhO as a future soon to become dad have a
baby girl I'm taking notes I really appreciate the works.
Keep that fax machine buzzing just little karma will do from
Ramon will of course Ramon thank you so much man and congrats on
the forthcoming human response
Douglas Moog $50 Kevin shade 50. Kyle man and that would be a
dude named Kyle. I guess you sure about that. We'll just call
him Kylie. Just try to mix it all up. Kyle man $50 Lee Harwood
$50. And then we have Tyrone car with 51st donation. I have to
say that as an eight off black, gay conservative listening to
you and Adam discuss all of these deeply relevant topics on
your show is oddly comforting, inspiring, and immensely
valuable. The show often reminds me of many 2am conversations I
have with my dad and brothers where we all get together during
the holidays. What you're doing is an essential public service.
Keep pressing on Ty car. Thanks, Ty. That's real cool, man.
Appreciate that. And we're very diverse with our audience. We
love that William Taylor $50 No note, no confessions. And that's
it. I think that's our executive and Associate Executive
producers for episode number 83. I do want to thank a couple of
our boosters because this is this is really a great way to
support the show is get a podcasting 2.0 app right now.
We're suggesting you either get to actually start with fountain.
The fountain.fm is very easy. In fact, you can even earn earn
SATs earn Satoshis by listening to other podcasts which you can
then boost over here to mo facts with Adam curry. You can very
easily get some coins in there from your cash app. I think
these days pay pal may even be able to do it. It's the future
find a new app a new podcast apps.com What's great about it
is is the minute you feel that you want to send some love You
can just hit the button. Instead of going to pay pal or getting
the cash app. I'm looking all up. It's a one, one action and
you can do it multiple times and Dred Scott hit it big today with
555,555 SATs. I think that's
Sakala 20 is Blaze only him Paula.
Love it drip. Thank you very much. And he actually did that
from the fountain app. He says you keep blowing my mind boost.
Dred Scott again, with a row of ducks. 222,222 SATs cast
thematic was the app you use this time another great episode.
Keep on keeping on. Auburn citadel 49,490 Boost got a
brother, Merlin 47,247. Satoshi switching my cash out monthly to
a boost. I think you all prefer that. Yes, we do. Thank you very
much. Because now is the time to boost boost that dip it's
beautiful for us now. Boost that boost the good teacher have
money 44,000 SATs. Love is lit. Thank you very much money. At
the time. That was a $9.21 boost. I'm sure that's
significant. So I'll make sure I mentioned it. We have a couple
of other boosts here from head Loon 35,000 We've got oh, this
was cool. Sir Dwayne Melanson who boosted 33,333 multiple
times for a total of 433,329 Sad.
Sad Karla 20 is Blaze only Impala in
the morning, he says and Russa. This episode has been very
enlightening. I feel much more informed about the manosphere
and black manosphere now This of course was our last episode. I
can definitely see a continuation of the of the
destruction of the nuclear family and traditional family
values. Our you know, keep up your important work here. By the
way, voice dictation first, but I was saying man is fear. That
seems pretty congruent with what y'all are talking about. Always
trying to dictate manosphere and it says manosphere I was funny.
One more thing I've discovered that y'all is probably the most
inclusive pronoun there is thank God I grew up in the South
y'all. Yeah, I guess it is. As long as you say. That's a very
good point. I love it. There's Chad Pharaoh with 20,000 SATs
thanks Chad sir WAGs does this thing actually work? He says and
gives us 15,033 made this podcast never be sponsored by
Macy's says Eric p with 15,000 SATs from breeze we appreciate
that Auburn citadel with another 14 14,949 He loves those numbers
man. Green bear Hawk the key 10,000 SATs German for anarchy.
Brian mossy 10,000 Keep the fantastic material coming. Are
you guys just stacking SATs like podcasting? 2.0 or either mo
Adam drawing down just trying to decide if boosting supports Mo
and fam or if he needs some Fiat fun coupons as well? Well, we do
consider the boost to be the retirement plan. Yes. So I leave
that up to you if you would prefer people to send Fiat at
because we're not drawing down that's for sure. No. So
it's all designed to me.
Okay, there you go.
Value is value right? How you get value
but boosting the dip is a good idea.
But it on T shirt.
That's right 10,000 From Head loon again, Timmy 2383 with
10,000 Bless you for your work 808 from Dave Ackerman, value
for value episode 82 lover of America Satoshis and boobs. Sir
WAGs roundy needed to see how this works. So I guess he was
doing a demo for 5000 SATs to show Roger round. Yeah, I love
that everyone helping each other out. De Lan 3500 Not sure if my
last boot boost went through, but I'm happy to send another
Mossad's for mo facts. One of the best podcasts on the net
hello from Seattle and we say hello to you in Seattle as well.
Those are our booster grams. Again, a new podcast apps.com is
where you heard there's multiple that work really well. If you're
just getting into it, you might enjoy fountain fountain.fm Thank
you all so much again, for supporting episode 83 of Mo
facts with Adam curry. We could not do it without you. And we
can't do it without you. So keep that comment. We'll thank the
rest of our donors in our second segment. Actually, I should
mention mo fax.com directly to our donation page mo fund me.com
mou fu nd me.com
All right. So we're I have to look at the agenda that's been
going on. And I say that we're purposely to run gay and black
together. And to do that, we got to go back to show eight. Once
again, this is Michael Eric Dyson, the worst salad man set
himself. And this is where he was pushing is gay, the new
black.
I understand the tensions on both sides, you know, black
folks that can we have some? Can we get something as ours? And
nobody appropriate alternative jazz? Can we keep the civil
rights? Everybody ain't black. Now, here's, here's the thing
that I think a lot of black people miss, is that it's real
flattery for people to try to compare themselves to black
people. You know, hey, we want to be black. We're down like
them. It's an insult to a lot of black people like, hey, it's the
same thing. Go dog. So slow down with that. What's interesting to
me, though, is that many African American people forget that the
Civil Rights Movement itself was borrowed, right, then then pay
some some royalties to Mahatma Gandhi. Because that's where
King got it.
Okay. So this is when they started rebranding and trying to
work the intersectionality. Because, as some people may
know, the fact that black people are more religious people by
percentage, there is some apprehension about accepting
gay. So
can I put it another way? Yes. From the outside. The view is
the culture of black men. If they're not gay, is this shut up
about being gay?
And the reason why I'm in there soon. Well, let's go ahead and
talk about it.
Do we might as well, yeah. So hold on, hold on. Let me make
sure no one else here next door. No one hears this shit.
Right. So you said at the beginning of the show, you
brought up lynching, yes, where there was a specific form of
lynching called breaking where they would take the biggest,
strongest slave and write them in front of everybody. And that
this case, or this situation with Andrew Gilliam had a new
window to that. And that is where some of the apprehension
of being associated with gay and black for black men, especially
when it involves white men. You know, by it has a real eye,
like, oh, okay, now what was that? What was that called? It's
called Book breaking,
but breaking book breaking,
but bank, like a book like large?
We know. And I'm glad you brought this up, because I had
no idea. This is a very important history. This is very
important historical context. Because I've always wondered,
you know, what's the problem? Okay, I see. So if this was
something that was done by white men to black men to break the
buck, the biggest the strongest slave with anal rape is what
you're telling me? Yes. I can see how that image alone. Just
the image alone in your mind would be totally triggering
super triggering. Right? Because this damn, I never knew about
this. Yeah. So and
that's and Andrew Gilliam being a large man. It even played into
that more. Wow. Yes. And so that's where some of the
apprehension like I say it's related some some of his
religion. It's very, it's a very multi,
multiple factors, multiple multi triggering, you know,
it can be either, you know, like I said before about breaking it
could be pushed back due to religion and faith. So, yeah, so
that that's part of it. And so, the LGBT community had to Willow
Willow away at this apprehension. And this is one of
the format's is this gay, the New Black. Gotcha. And it also
feeds into the intersectionality. That also
comes up to say well we have shared experiences
Okay. Told us Are we good? Can I open the door again? Yes,
police. Hey, everybody, just little stuff behind the door.
Don't worry about it. Glad we
got that away. So
took care of that. Yeah.
So now you have micro Eric Dyson is pushing this thinking and to
do that he's actually tearing away at Martin Luther King
saying, well it's borrow from Mahatma Gandhi, who Gandhi was a
huge racist himself. Go look at some of his earlier work in
South Africa. Yeah, so that was like, Okay, well King Mo hot
maganda was he not aware of what Gandhi we talked about? I think
I'll show eight. But let's fast forward and listen to the second
clip on Michael Eric Dyson making the sale to you know, for
intersectionality
I think that gay black gay people do black people a favor
and first of all, let's what are we forgetting here? Some gay
people happen to be black? It is not like they told them Oh,
you're gay. You don't have to go to the bank. Stay upfront with
us. Because you're looking awful delicious today. Damn. You go to
the head of the bus.
Oh, man.
I don't make the news. I'm just recording right here. They ain't
got no exemption. James Baldwin spoke for black people as a
black gay man. Barbara Smith now, Audra Lorda. without buying
Ruston, straight black people would never enjoy the rights
they enjoy now. Adam Clayton Powell called Martin Luther King
Jr. up and said, I'm going to tell a lie. That you invited
Russ in the heaven and affair if you don't put him out
the weight. Wasn't that true?
What by our restaurant King?
Yeah. Well, I
don't know about the relationship. The fact that he
was gay. He was super gay. That's why they are open gate.
I'm sorry, that said he was super gay.
Know what I mean, for this house? I mean, for the times to
be that open and to be black? Yeah. I mean, you could, you
could classify him as that because and that's what Adam
Clayton Powell didn't like, and that's why they are wrestling
had to play the shadows. Right, because like, whoa, you can't be
Reverend Dr. Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr. Reverend. And
hanging out with an openly gay man who you know, has some
nefarious dealings himself.
And if, if I recall correctly from Episode Eight, it's been a
while. It was really him who had a lot of the ideas and Martin
Luther King was the one who brought that to the people.
Yeah, he
was more of the speaker. Right. But they are wrestling was the
he had the communist ties. Right. A lot of this came from a
Philip Randolph. I mean, he was playing in March and Washington
way before then. But that's where you know, adequate power
was aware like you can't be a reverend. And piling around
because it's the hurt our movement. That that was the you
know, what he was trying to do? Because he was the threat I got
it for the imminent Santa Monica 60s. So this is where I found
another interesting point with the Gilliam case, because in a
time 2018 That's why I say it was more of a feature for him to
come out and blah Oh yeah, I'm gay. As well as well as a black
man and you know, the youngest politician to do x y and
right it should have it should have been adjudged another great
box to check off.
Right but the way they had to play it was totally different in
the US spec and this is former star rising star democratic
excuse me, former rising democratic star speaks out this
is from Good Morning America. Back now
Tamron Hall and your exclusive interview with Andrew Gillum.
The Democratic rising stars career came to an abrupt halt
when he was discovered in a Miami hotel room with someone
who suffered a drug overdose. Karen is going to join us live
in a moment first. Diane Macedo has the details.
Wow. Nice way to put it. He was found in a hotel room with
someone who suffered a drug overdose someone. Right? Good.
We rented a flip Florida Blue. He was poised to make political
history, the first black nominee in a major party to run for
governor in Florida. A rising star in the Democratic Party,
Andrew Gilliam came within striking distance of the
governor's mansion during a hotly contested race in 2018. He
lost a Republican Ron DeSantis by less than half a percentage
point,
RJ and I wanted to take a moment to congratulate Mr. DeSantis.
The 41 year old husband and father was later floated as a
possible VP contender. But behind the scenes, Gilliam's
life was unraveling in the early hours of March 13. Police found
him and nev reIated. In this Miami Beach hotel room with two
other men. A photo of Gillum in a compromising position was
leaked for the world to see Gillum denied ever taking
methamphetamines but checked into a rehab facility for
treatment of AIDS. alcoholism and depression.
So he was a possible VP tick pick. Hmm. Yeah, I didn't
realize that make sense.
It makes plenty of sense. So mine was appeared you didn't
catch that. They said he found him with two other men before it
was him, the nurse or into other men.
All right, so there's one person is gone. Right
all of a sudden. How does that happen? Maybe I'm listening too
much.
I'm with you. I mean, I'm all in that this is a massive cover up.
But now it's more interesting that he was passed and I have to
take ABCs word at it that he was a potential VP pick.
Yes. And
the album is a whole nother can of worms. I didn't even pre
think this you harping on? Not harping, but, well, I'm raising
appointed a VP,
he would have been a heck of a lot better than
who's exactly whose way will he being? Yeah, he will just be the
COVID.
Will the Yeah. Nobody wanted Kamala. So could the Coven have
done this to him? Hmm. They're pretty
good. I didn't even I didn't even stick stick on the VP
thing. Yeah. Excellent point. Pretty powerful. Man. It
could be I don't know. It's possible is
Why could he be in? Yeah. Wow. I got me on that.
I really feel bad for Gillum. Nah, really, he really got
worked over.
Alright, so stay, we stopped at one. Let's get into the second
part.
Now, six months later, Andrew Gilliam is making his first
television appearance, sitting down in an exclusive interview
with Tamron Hall talking about the night that changed his life.
What do you want people to know about the purpose, your
intention? When you went to that room?
I would say the reason why I went to that room is probably no
different than how anybody might communicate with someone that
they are in a friendship relationship, whatever with. I
understand very well what people assume about that. When that
photo came out. I didn't recognize the person on the
floor. That was not anything more than a person being at
their most vulnerable state, unconscious, having given no
consent. And someone decided to use a moment where I was
literally lying in my own vomit.
And when you first saw it, I don't know how you're still
standing. I don't know how you're still here.
I'm still here by the grace of God. So much of my recovery has
been about trying to get over shame. Shame is not that I did
that, but I am bad.
And Gillum also credits therapy with getting him to a better
place as well as his wife was also sitting down with Tamron
Hall.
How long ago did this come up?
This came out the following year. I mean, the following few
months, he went in rehab, okay, and then he came out. And then
Tamra Hall got an exclusive interview with him. But it's
something I found very interesting when he says he was
laid out the image sorry, I said, that's that book breaking
imagery. You know, and then he says that, how did he put it? He
says, like somebody did it to him. The way he's talking like
he said, I got drunk or high or whatever, and passed out
know what he's ultimately because he's at the end. He's
kind of saying, Well, I'm bad, though. You know, I'm bad even
it's kind of like, you know, I couldn't really help what
happened here
in a way and he said, I went to talk to no one more like when
you go talk to a person. Now, I gotta push back on that because
it's like, when I go talk to my friends, I don't end up you
know, facedown on my vomit. Excuse me for being not on a
weekday. Yeah, it will say like, No, we're gonna play that game.
But if somebody did this to you, then you need to come out and
say it and the reason why I played the micro Dyson's clue
first was this is him holding the lie.
They say they saved this ass and he's he's toeing the line for
sure.
Right and he has to not hold the party line of every you know of
everything is fine. There's not they made a bigger deal than it
was made out of it. But I just the way I don't recognize that
person. He's using all this like coded language that found is
strange and how He described a situation. And then he's like,
I'm not bad. I did bad. Like, you know, that's that speaking
to the, to the gay part of it, or the bisexual part of it. So
he is somebody I sat down with him, of course and CO pushed him
on the talking point. Yeah, because he really didn't take
any blame for it. But I still think I think there's a strong
possibility that he was a victim of some kind of setup. Um, yeah.
Yeah, so I guess we can get to part three.
Okay, Dan, thanks very much. Let's bring in Tamron Hall right
now to record an interview right there. We hear Andrew Gillum
talking about his recovery there. What does he say happened
in that room?
I mean, he goes into limited details about the event because
there was someone else in the room. But he does George open up
very candidly about what he says was the spiral of his life after
he lost that gubernatorial race, the impact that it had on his
marriage, his wife, RJ will join us as well. He's a father of
three, he doesn't skirt around it. As you know, you've done
these types of interviews. It's uncomfortable to have someone
with their loved one present, tell the sort of details of what
went on. But he goes, there we go there. There were no rules to
this. It was more about a raw, real interview that he provided.
And I think it will be one of the most compelling things that
people will see.
What she did a heck of a sales. Oh, great.
Well, the first thing that struck me is wow, that's a total
replay of a Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton sitting on the
couch. You know, which I find disgusting. Remember when that
lamp came down, and she ends like he's like I'm telling the
truth, and they're all telling the truth. And then this light
comes crashing down, like God struck it. I forgot about the
moment. It's a great moment in broadcast history.
But what I find disgusting is when these politicians roll
their spouse out as like a prop.
Well, you need to I mean, so he was still in the game. If you're
not in the game, you don't do it. But if you're in the game,
that's that's she also makes sacrifices
in it. Also, it's not just limited politics as well. It's
also everything Yeah, makes his way to celebrities and even
content creators. We saw this with Derek Jackson, who was the
Kevin Samuels nemesis. He got caught up. And he had to bring
his wife out and sit her beside him. So this is, this is what
they call it. Damage Control. 101. Yep. He's like, you gotta
get the spouse that, you know, Kobe Bryant did the best. He ate
me $1 Ray, he was like, you're gonna be here beside me.
$8 million. So that'll do it. Yeah, that'll keep me loyal.
Yeah, so I guess we can get to part four. Now.
What's the future hold for him at this point?
You know, that's, that's the question. Will voters hear his
explanation and accept it? I'm not sure if he wants to reenter
the political world. But you know, politics, TV, people get
addicted to it for various reasons. And I do believe he
wants to, in some way have his voice heard you. You know, he
was the youngest elected official African American in
Florida's history. At 23 years old. He was an elected official.
He believes this is his calling. But this fall from grace,
certainly counters that I think his wife has been a great
protector and supporter and what she reveals about their
relationship. And his rise to political fame is also something
that in my 30 years of being a journalist, I've not heard from
a political spouse. So it is compelling. It's a part of our
season two premiere of a huge week of explosive interviews
where we come to the table and we say this is about living your
life not defending your life, but most important to us on this
show. Let's talk about it.
Wow, it sounds really compelling as you said, Tamarin thanks very
much. Good luck on the new season also happy birthday this
week.
Wow. Thanks, George.
Can we get our biscuit
they always give me a biscuit on my birthday. Sure.
Happy birthday. Oh, so live you're not life? How she put it
live your life not No, I don't think it was more it wasn't it
was it was it seemed like it was a fair line is right at the end.
Let's hear it one more time. Sure.
What's the future hold for ruining your life but most
important to the table and we say this is about living your
life not defending your life but most important to
your life not defending either the gay the gay thing?
Yes. Hmm, so his wife and him, they do something I've never
seen before. And they as tamarind said, in 30 years she
hadn't seen it. They take a unique angle on this. Yeah,
anything he wants to say before we get into No,
no. I'm ready for the unique angle 26.
The truth is, is that Tamron every one believes the absolute
worst about that day. At this stage, I don't have anything
else to have to conceal. I literally got broken down to my
most bare place to the place where I wasn't even sure that I
want to live broken. I
heard it now. Very bare place. Yeah,
yeah. Wow, Buck break right there. Do you think you think
he's signaling that? Or is that
to, I literally get broken down to my most bare place, to the
place where I wasn't even sure that I wanted to live not
because of what I had done. But because of everything that was
being said about me. What was most hurtful was this belief
that I was somehow living a lie in my marriage and in my family.
That was the most hurtful to me, because I believe we're all
entitled to mistakes. And I believe we're entitled to those
mistakes without having every other respectable and redeeming
part of our lives and validated. And I felt like the love that I
have between my wife and I, my family, but most important, the
authenticity that I tried to lead with was all in question at
this point. And not even in question anymore. Something else
had been assumed by that. And to be very honest with you, when
you didn't ask the question. You put it out there is whether or
not identify as gay and the answer is I don't identify as
gay, but I do identify as bisexual. And that is something
that I have never shared publicly
before.
Okay, he should get the monkey pox vaccine.
Never seen that done before in politics. And I think he had to
do that to salvage his political career. Oh, he's not gay, or not
bisexual. That he appears as a closeted self hating gay man.
Right? So what he's what he's saying here is yeah, I'm
bisexual. I just knew I didn't hang it up on from the highest
tree and you know, it's like is what it is? To correct. Did his
wife say anything about that? Did she have any? Was there any
questioning of her?
She did say she knew and he told her beforehand. They got
married. Okay, wish there this big push now? Should black women
cuz we talked about last time that there's a perceived and
maybe even real, a shortage of men quality man. I mean, you how
you call, how you qualify quality, you know? So should
Black women consider marrying bisexual men? And it was a push
back against that like, No, we shouldn't. And that goes to say
the grassroots are not reacting the way the leadership expects
or how the leadership has promised right. And that's why I
was saying maybe this is the cleaning up of all the old
politicians because they're seeing being seen as
ineffective. It's time to change because these new these ideas
you'd like wit row, we saw that reaction. Yeah. With the crime.
We're seeing. unexpected reaction there. Now we got to be
careful that because it's a crime bill 1.0 started, but is
conservative views are being more accepted with the
grassroots. And so
Oh, I see what you're saying the marketing problem.
Yeah, it's a very I mean, the the group thing is weakening.
And I have to say that's due to warmth because of social media.
Super clips. Yeah. Shows like this. When people go with show
Oh, this is a game this is a scam. This is a sale, that
they're trying to keep you herded into a certain type of
type of mentality. And this is really speaks to the
ineffectiveness of the mainstream media, which is the
The propaganda machine Yeah.
Wow. I'm so glad you're doing all this because it really went
by me and it wouldn't have. I mean, there's so much depth to
it because he's black that I was unaware of is really an
interesting case.
Yeah. And the fact that once again, he played he's playing
ball. There's no need to detonate him at this point. I've
haven't heard anything. Come out of bisexuals. Good. Okay,
no need to detonate. I like that. It doesn't
make any. That's what baffled me and I had to see to see what's
going on here. So now we get to speak to his wife and 27
when you saw that picture, where were you?
I was at home alone. I was. And I knew something was wrong,
because a number of friends had reached out to do that. I'm just
checking on you. Because it was hard to see. My husband the
strongest man I know. It was hard to see
what did you see in that photo? Um,
he was helpless. Honestly, I got angry that he was being taken
advantage of in a way that was unfair.
I thought that whole situation if it had happened to a woman,
it would be a very different narrative, meaning if anyone had
a tablet with a woman lying naked on the floor with the
pictures have even made it out. It would have been criminal.
Hmm,
great point. And I just looked at the pictures and put them in
the show notes. Man, this is a bunch of phony baloney stuff.
You see that? So the pills, there's a next to the bed pill
bottle on the bed. And all the pills are in a little bunch next
to it. But the pill bottle is up straight. I mean, it looks
really staged. And also, I'm thinking on that anyway. Yes. We
don't
mind that. You say that now, because I didn't get that deep
into it. But when I first heard about the story, it made me
think of the movie ricochet. I haven't with I haven't seen with
Denzel Washington. Another way he was gonna come in, right.
It's Oh, it's one of his earlier films. Oh,
I think I have seen it. Yeah. And I keep forgetting the
guy who he shot. But he shot this white supremacist. And the
guy was hell bent on ruining his life after that. And they set
him up with a prostitute. And like said They drugged them took
pictures of him. Right, right, right. Yeah, all these were
saying all these different things. And that's what came to
mind. As you were saying that, and then when I first heard his
story, like, Is this is this a setup? Because he, um, be honest
with he doesn't seem like a meth user to me. Well, I
also know he doesn't. And I think that if if you are a meth
user, you add on the throwing up thing is, to me is more
continuous that would make more sense if he was really, really
drunk. Or if there were some pills involved that he didn't
know he was taking. He seems like he was an experienced,
experienced in some things. I don't know. I just you know, the
whole beginning of this episode, and then looking at the
pictures, you put it together go. That looks pretty staged.
Once again, who was that fourth person in the room?
I don't know. I? I have no idea.
So let's go ahead and and get into 28.
Is that why you did not want him to reveal that he told you long
before your marriage, that he was bisexual?
I'm not even that he told me just for him to have to say it.
I don't think it's anyone's business. I don't think it's
fair to people who are not heterosexual or not assumed
heterosexual that they should ever have to say or disclose
what they are. Because of how judgmental people are. I also
know and I think he mentioned it to you that so many people just
don't understand bisexuality, they think they can wrap their
heads around gay. But bisexuality is just something
different.
How were you able to understand it when he presented it to you
and then ultimately proposed and said, but you're the one I think
he said he told you that I choose
you right? I just believe that. Love and sexuality exist on a
spectrum. All I care about is what's between us Then What
agreement do we make to be in relationship with each other?
I watched an interview where you talked about God's plan. After
all of this, after the words of shame directed at you, Andrew,
and the questions that your children will ask when they're a
little older, hopefully a lot older. We're not supposed to
question God's plan. But have you questioned God's plan?
All the time?
Whoa, I got pretty deep.
The Yeah. Oh. Where can I start? Because yeah,
I mean, here's, here's the dichotomy. You've got, yes,
God's plan, but homosexuality isn't supposed to be God's plan.
Right. And she also said, it shouldn't be a person, that
person shouldn't have to base out in themselves. Right? In a
private life. Yes. But when you're a politician, when you're
going into that room and negotiate, or you're negotiating
on behalf of, quote, unquote, black people, are you saying,
are you negotiating for the LGBT community? C, this was the big
issue with Black Lives Matter. Because they lead with Black
Lives Matter. Right. But but really, they were pushing for
everything but heterosexual men, right. And as a heterosexual
man, which is the thorn in the side of the Democrats right now.
And the people that are least likely to go along with is a
much needed chunk of that black vote. It's like, whoa, who are
you representing? And it's not representing lifestyle is
representing somewhere in lifestyle, because what I said
about what the image of that can portray, but more or less when
you go into that room, and you were in talking about
negotiating for funds? are you negotiating for LGBT funds?
Right? Are you negotiating for quote unquote, black funds? And
they do this weird trick and I want to talk about it more on
the other side of it when I say they, I'm talking about the gay
ink, let's just call them that. Like we did Black Lives Matter.
thing. When they go in that room who you negotiating for, because
they seem like one of the people you're representing is getting a
lot of tangibles. But, but the others, plank that you claim to
represent, is not getting any tangible. That's why it becomes
important. This
is kind of the genesis of of this entire podcast is you know,
it's all lip service. And what it really is is black America,
please hold the door open so all these other people can go
through and as the alphabet people first
write me because it oftentimes it can be Jewish people, it can
be feminist, it could be communist, you know, all kinds
of different agendas, but we're the person left holding the door
is the heterosexual black male. Yeah. And, and the fact that
they use our image and it's miss me, but that that was part of
the George floor thing him laid out like that, you know, him
being like, I actually will lay it out. That was that was part
of the imagery and made it so powerful, to for them to use for
their promotion of other agendas, right. So as same as
this case. So that's why it's important, like I say, your
private life that's on you. But in your in the public life and
when you especially when you're a politician, where you're
negotiating for different lobby, you're negotiating with
different lobby lobbies, and negotiating for different
agendas. We need to know how those agendas are prioritized
when you go in that room you know, if it's only a million
dollars who was that mean? I was gonna go to he's gonna go to one
or the other a half a hat, we need to know and when you can
steal that. So that doesn't let voters know you're saying what
they're actually buying with their vote.
Right. So how do you what do you feel that Gillen was doing here?
Well, I'll answer that question on the other side of the
donation.
Okay, I got you understand that there's some people out there
who need my services. Are there any people out there who were
weak people out there who are aware
and people out there who are
out there who just need to hear y'all come on down. All right,
time to thank the rest of our producers for this episode
number 83 of Mo facts with Adam curry. We are now at Tim right.
With 4920 think it's a translated Number he says a
double LP donation 66 dot 66 Canadian in memory of my best
friend Andrew Chism, he would have loved your So show your
show so much whitest guy I know. I didn't grow up around many
black people or any really he introduced me to so much good
music a lot of which was hip hop and rap. I purchased The
Miseducation of Lauryn Hill on vinyl recently, such an amazing
uplifting and illuminating Elvis a very good album. When you're
going to drop your first LP MO You go, we want to know.
Will you One day One day,
thank you for your courage lovers. Let Tim right PS I was
talking to his black guy last night chocolate and I mentioned
asking. Oh, I mentioned asking versus axing. I told him that
axing dates back to the 1600s or so far as I know, he said as
King I'm not quite sure I understand that one my asking
like that's how you
asking Ah, I see as king I didn't Oh, interesting. As good
a third variation for we have a new variation. Yeah. Well, you
know, we deconstructed x is actually correct. Is how he's
how we're asking us to be axing in Old English. Oh, no. No, we
got to brandy Bledsoe. 4444 Thank you Brandy anonymous e 41.
Eric p with 40 steel sign me with 3666 appreciate all you do
from steel Melbourne. Raphael Raphael negatron brave man mo
keep doing what you do. $35 Thank you Dee booth 3333
Congrats mo on your new freedom. Like Trump's job l sharp now we
got to do mo fact stuff here people I'll give you a wish we
got to have
the camera of the MO variety as well. Of course we've got karma
you've got
the thing you'll be I think this is also a leftover from the
episode we missed. $30 did I mentioned earlier I can't
remember
that was from it was separated by the two little cut offs.
He says love it. Thank you very much Nathaniel. Sorry for
missing you. Matt Baja. $30 Fantastic job and 81 and 82.
It's enlightening and yet entertaining too. I'm passing
the word on to friends and family. Matt in San Diego. Thank
you, Matt. Matthew M $30. We have Robert Sager, which we know
is an executive producer today. He came in with a couple of 20
fives what happened to episodes one to four on Apple podcast.
And he he's donating for the music alone. He says one in
four. We're rebuilding something. It'll it'll come
back. Eventually. It's it's not it's not your mistake is not
Apple's mistake. It's mine.
You could find them on YouTube or bid shoot or somewhere else.
Yes, you can't find them and you can find
them on archive.mo facts.com I believe we have there you go
there. Chris era Skog. $25 jamesy 25 Ryan Schoen 22 Episode
Episode 22 of the Dream Makers mind blowing Thank you Mona Adam
keep it going. Alex G 2082 sad puppy donation please. D dead
beat me. Yes. Thank you. We missed it.
Congratulations. You're no longer dead the
SAM schmuck 2033 John C said Aloha Adam and Mo here in Hawaii
we have regained our freedoms for the time being when y'all
come and visit and he says poke or Pokey and that was also a
donation poke as in the Facebook Poke
we I believe so. Okay, man we haven't even met
in person yet can't be traveling together just yet. Take a
while plus I might turn them freedoms all while we over there
it might be to plan get them on island.
Beatrice V or Beatrice five maybe a census to donations
previous one for 20 mo karma and a recent one with a thank you
and so we will hand out some mo karma to you thank you Beatrice
you've got
date man love the show keep up the work Gerald P great episode
that was also a miss donation William P. Fantastic show Thank
you Andrea Jackson $20 Benjamin Keiter $20 sent note as
uncredible trucker through the website contact did you get that
one?
Not as see that one. Okay.
Brian Rosa give Black guns did we had that
we do have a gene we do have a jingle. Yeah,
we do have it. I got it right here. We let's see Jackson walga
mots $20 Thank you for your work. Jacob Hernandez 20
Jennifer Cato 20 John for ready $20 D deadbeat please You got
it.
Congratulations. You're no longer dead the
Mark J asher 1836 brilliant show 82 He says Josiah Hendrickson
1634 GBG donation from a Joe the electrician after being called
out last episode. Thanks Mo. We Natalie are $15 ITM thanks for
all you do. Darrell kick 15 Thanks for a great podcast. I've
learned so much with each episode when you said to cancel
a subscription and donate that amount. I took the advice please
send me karma. Thanks from Darrell K.
You've got
shazier 15 for the machine Benjamin Bateman. 1111 Vincent
Farrell 1010 Eric p is a different Eric p $10. Mo knows
me Of course he does. Nicholas H $10. Thanks for the service.
David Jones. 10 Jack Delila $10 Jeremy Kavanaugh 10 Robert
Recchia 10 Rorschach and Rory white photography 10 S. V. 10.
Terrorists Lynch 10 Vanessa Steinbach. 10 Thank you all for
this. Mark Jay Asher 845 A cult fan. There he is. How you doing
brother 803 Ahmed al Joe Hurrians donation. Ahmed
Algerians donation thermofax 83 What is Ahmed al Johari?
I have no hours leave it oh you
My goodness. That's a cult fan man. The guy is crazy. He'll
he'll let me know he'll do a you know wanna go dancing in the
goddamn back? Wow, man blew my mind with my mind with that. Oh,
man, I'll Gero forgot all about it. Sugar. E and E 666. My 333
for AI for each episode, I value you. I just listened to so many
shows. Thanks for the hardware. This is the beauty in a value
for value. It's what you can. What you find valuable is what
it's what matters to you. That's how it works. That's what we
love so much about it. They may be much easier for someone to
donate more, but they'll do it to their value and you do it to
yours and it all works out beautifully. Johnny hip well.
555 sorry. I've been off with the coop. Great show. Mo We're
glad you're back. Johnny. Andrew sulk five Brandon glass five
James Holly $5 Episode 82. Mo fantastic as always mo karma
please. We got it for you.
You've got
$5 monthly subscription from Joshua Goodson. Thanks, Joshua
Terry. The human subscription killer always does it manually.
$4.11 Chris Cohen or 333 Dwight's 10 Penny 333. And
there's a couple more E and E's at $1. And we really appreciate
all of the support from all of our producers, execs associates,
like our episode donations, our boosters, thank you for keeping
it going. This is exactly what we need. As we as we push
ourselves through the summer, Mo fixing up all kinds of stuff on
his end. It's, it's good. It's really good to see that
especially with the crisis of inflation. So happy everybody
stepping up. Really appreciate it. If you'd like to support the
show, time, talent, treasure, we accept that all go to mo
facts.com directly to the donation page at mo efundme.com
mo fahmy.com Thank you again, for supporting episode 83 of Mo
facts with Adam curry.
So, excuse me, Mr. Andrew Gillum had a co defendant on that case.
Oh, which it kind of just, you know, they just kind of brushed
over skipped over him there. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, we
don't do that here. We don't know. Let me do that little
setup or miss Sharon Layton Hicks. Sorry, Miss Sharon
Lippmann Hicks is the person that was also charged with him.
Really? Yes. Well, have you ever heard of her? No. Okay. All
right. So Miss Shara hit me. licks me, let me Hicks Excuse
me. She was the CEO of the let me I have it right here. The
National Black Justice Coalition.
Oh, Riley. Yeah.
The National Black Justice Coalition. Its mission is to end
racism, homophobia, LGBTQ SGL bias and stigma That's who was
fun and help him the money. She will receive the money and then
she will send it to Gillum. Now she has a very interesting past
personal and currently when she was arrested, this is the
Tallahassee Democrat Sharon leadman. Hicks suspend Florida
House campaign amid federal corruption charges. I have the
article here says Sharon Sharon letting Hicks was arrested
Wednesday along with former Mayor Andrew Gillum. Not not
governor. Candidate mayor, Mayor Andrew Gillum. On the charges
they found on campaign contributions to themselves. Is
the spinning her campaign for Florida House the let me Hicks
foul to run for the Eighth District. See in on June 1, just
days before the federal grand jury indicted on charges of wire
fraud and conspiracy to commit mail fraud. I continue with the
article. She says I am devastated by these baseless
charges. I have been I have made the painful decision to suspend
my campaign she said at a news release I must now focus on
fighting for my continued freedom. Let me Hicks owner of
PP PNP communications and CEO of the National Black Justice
Coalition. She said she says she found it stunning that the
charges came to light just days after she came became a viable
candidate in the house place
stunning What a surprise.
Yes, she qualified to run for the House seat last week. Now
all of a sudden, you one and we got him being handled a bisexual
man being handled by the National Black Justice Coalition
who was who was also gay?
Yes, no, she's not gay. Yes, she is. Is she not? Well, I
believe so.
In 2010, she wasn't openly gay. Because in the clips I had, I
don't have that clip person specifically. But she considered
herself. She said she didn't like calling herself an ally.
She hated that word. Really? Yes. Now that makes me regret if
you have some counterpoint. But I didn't clip that part. But yet
I assume that she was a straight up hearing woman.
The way she I don't know. I mean, I'm just I'm just
searching. Okay. This is from queer bio.com. Let me see. They
said
no, no, I'm sorry. She said she she said she was the only
straight person on the
sea. Yeah, I think I'm wrong.
which I found very interesting that you have to be gay to work
for that company, or that organization. Is that Well, you
discriminate?
Doesn't have to be but yeah, I understand.
But the way she said it was like that was a you know, it was a
requirement. What I find is she doesn't even have a Wikipedia
page. Yeah, that's why we got to get into her.
This is annoying. I mean, that's as a politician. You don't have
a wiki page sums up that's a very she's
bigger than a politician. She's a handler.
This is she's Yeah, this. That's very weird. Okay,
let's just go ahead and get into 30.
Tell me how you feel about the Obama administration's push an
effort to bring equality.
I gotta put timeline give a timeline for this. This is her
at the one nation working together rally in 2010. And
she's speaking to MSNBC. Alright.
How do you feel about the Obama administration's push an effort
to bring equality for all across this country? What is President
Obama been able to do toward that end?
Honestly, the inclusion agenda for the LGBT equality movement
is unbelievable. The administrator administration has
been an advocate. It has listened. It has heard our
concerns, it has moved the agenda. And yes, there is
absolutely a lot more work to be done. We want so many more
things brought into the mainstream, that LGBT equality
is for all it benefits all of our communities. But we have
made some significant gains, whether it's the Family and
Medical Leave Act, whether it's the passage of the hate crimes,
legislation, we're moving forward with the repeal of Don't
Ask, Don't Tell. We are very optimistic that one that we have
the ear of the President to that the administration understands
the benefit of inclusion for all the seriousness of the
atrocities, like the overwhelming number of suicides
are the last three weeks public education is important because
education must create an environment that is safe and
inclusive for all children. All right. Babies are taking their
own lives.
It is the kind of thing that is gut wrenching for any of us to
see it's a it's a real problem in this country. Sharon, let me
fix that. We're glad that you're addressing issues out there
today on behalf of the National Black Justice Coalition.
Hmm. Yeah. So she said agenda? Yes. She said the word agenda
which I thought you couldn't have a gay agenda, or that was a
myth. The Gay Agenda? Yeah. But she just ran down the whole
list. And this is from the Wikipedia page from the National
Black Justice Coalition. Today, in 2011, the organization
identifies issues as it will be focusing its programming efforts
on employment non non discrimination act, marriage
inequality, bullying in schools, don't ask, don't tell,
Historically Black Colleges and Universities and HIV AIDS. And
it also had the black church summit in 2006, where Reverend
Al Sharpton and denounce homophobia and call it call for
greater inclusion of LGBT people. So this is what I was
talking about with their agenda. Interesting. We had a bunch of
black people just shot and killed in Buffalo, and we still
can't get a black hate, hate crime act. But they were pushing
for it. 2011. So that's what makes me ask, Will you go in
that room? whose agenda are you pushing? Right? That's the only
reason I'm worried about what's your what's your how you
identify or whatever else. I don't care what you do in your
bedroom. Nobody cares. But when you go in that negotiation room,
yeah. You know, that that matters then. Right. So that's,
that's another reason why it matters. And then this is one of
the issues, the pushing in and making inroads in the quote
unquote, black church. Right, we need to do something in the
black church. We need to change the minds of people in the black
church.
Hello, that's an agenda. Right?
Because with that comes money. And a lot of the churches always
need that money.
All the money ain't nothing like a fresh dollar bill. I like
better money
is more beautiful, every woman. So yes, so now you see. It's not
it's just not a benign agenda. It
Well, no, I mean, we lost at Buck, we got to make up for it
somehow.
And she would be not to the size of him. But you know, she used
she used a bundler. I will say Anna Anna handler, she's, she's
a double. So let's go ahead and get into her air her own words.
And she's speaking at the city of click the City Club of
Cleveland,
we learned a student organizers, we did what we needed to do. We
were under assault in our state government. But to us, it was
just another challenge. It was just something that we were
supposed to do, that we didn't realize, when all of America's
eyes are on you what that really means. So in many ways, I feel
very blessed and fortunate because I do believe I was
discovered. But I was just discovered for doing the work of
ordinary people and an extraordinary time in our
democracy. And in that walk, to be under the tutelage of
somebody like Norman Lear. There's never an ordinary day.
Because it's always wondering what a great mind like that
would teach you, and under his wing to really educate me on the
separation of church and state, and what religious exploitation
looks like, and how our government is so fragile as to
why things like the separation of church and state mattered,
especially when it comes to freedom and democracy, and not
allowing any one's interpretation of what they feel
is right and good, especially in the name of the Lord. And then
using it to exasperate an agenda. That also oftentimes is
not as genuine as your faith.
Norman Lear Are you familiar with Norman Lear? Adam?
I'm very familiar with Norman Lear. Norman Lear would be
currently the his legacy lives on. He's still alive. As the
propagandist of Hollywood, the Norman Lear Hollywood
foundation. They're all over Hollywood in the writers rooms,
they deliver scripts, they come up with ideas. It's the it's a
huge propaganda outfit.
And could that be why more the black roles and black shows are
leaning more to the LGBT?
Generally, if it's not climate change? Is that Sure?
And the reason why I say this is Miss Sharon Littman. Hicks,
previous to coming to the National Black Justice
Coalition, which I find that they put no mention of gay in
the title of the organization. Yeah. When you when you hear
that National Black Justice Coalition, it doesn't speak. And
they done that purposely. They did that purposely. So before
she came to that organization became the CEO. She worked at
People for the American way. People for the American way, is
a progressive advocacy group in the United States organized as a
501. C four lobby nonprofit, nonprofit organization. It was
raised in 1981. By television producer Norman Lear. Yeah.
Describe liberal who found the organization in 1980 to
challenge the Christian rights agenda of moral majority. Pretty
much he was sent over to the NNJ in BJC, to make inroads in the
black church. Wow. Okay, so I just happened
to stealth missile man, she's got a lot going on.
And like I said, I believe her to be gillows handler in his
situation. Yeah. So now what I want to do is, in this
presentation that she gives at the City Club, City Club of
Cleveland, she, she lays out how you made those inroads in the
black church,
and when to really take it to the next step to get the
education of what free speech is about. And as we all are
watching it play out that freedom of speech does not mean
that it's free speech without consequence. So as we all live
through the unique modern day, challenges of Amis show, and
Norman, as we all were a free speech organization, we weren't
allowed to go out on that particular issue, the way and he
called us and he just blasted us What do you mean, you're not
going out of it? We're like, Norman, this is a free speech
issue. We're, no, no, no. It's a free speech issue. If your
speech is free, he is a brand of a network. And as a network
executive, that type of speech is costly to me. He's got to go.
So fast, we struggle. And to me, I was growing up in this
society. I was like, Wow, what a unique capitalistic view.
The origin of the castle Kenny. That's right, baby. Wow. That's
the origin right there. Normally, I go after the
advertisers.
And he's still with us. 99 years old.
Which I have some more information on him that we're
going to talk about at a later date. Okay. Yeah. Um, but yeah,
this is she learned under his tutelage. Well, then
she's then she's a Grand Wizard.
Exactly. Exactly. And like I said, she was brought over to
the MB JC to fulfill the, you know,
the mission to complete
making inroads against the biggest force in the black
community pushing back against the, you know, the LGBT Inc.
agenda. So did not make that clear. So
she did she fail? I mean, why did she Why did she get wrangled
in this? Or?
I don't know. I don't have an answer for that question. And
like I say, I hate I don't. But I made this more about. It
doesn't make any sense for a democratic, lenient Department
of Justice to come after these two know. It that that's the
bigger story is not the who done it. It's the why, why, why were
they taken? I mean, we have so many other things. You know,
that's going on right now, that pales in comparison to what
these two were doing. And then the lying to the FBI part is the
one that really gets me right is why that charge. So I don't want
to beat a dead horse. But let's get into more of her in her own
words.
It wasn't real challenging for me to leap into this body of
work, because it really became holes.
I'm sorry. I just had a thought. So the why lying to the FBI,
because if all the other stuff because it's indictments, right,
they haven't been found guilty. They've been indicted. Right? So
if all of that turns out to be bullcrap, it may just be a total
marketing exercise. Then you always have the lie, as you
pointed out, lying to the FBI. That's why they I mean, you're
gone. I mean, they can Roger Stone. What's his name? Ben
Flynn. General Flynn. They are lying to the FBI. So if all the
other stuff falls away, yeah, but you lied to the FBI, FBI, so
you're guilty.
These two individuals, which was one, the rising star of the
Democratic Party, almost a VP candidate, as you know, not all
words, possibly a presidential potential, and the head of the
biggest LGBT, black organization, this taken down a
treat like white supremacy,
that's an elimination right there. Alright, let's go back to
the clip, we'll find out more.
It wasn't real challenging for me to leap into this body of
work, because it really became whole for me. In that walk under
that type of tutelage, when election, 2008 happened. And I
got a president that looked like me. And everything in the world
felt magnificent. Until the whole year of 2008. I was in
California, doing programs on the ground called homophobia in
the black church, and reaching out to my community just to
soften the reality. Because in the black community, you can't
even get to gay marriage. Because the conversation about
gay is like, let me be clear, the black community invented the
term Don't Ask Don't Tell when. And so when you even try to have
a conversation about gay marriage, what are you talking
about? Gay marriage, we have 70% Single Woman households in the
black community, gay marriage. Marriage is not even a cultural
term that is revered in the way that society may deal with. But
you're talking about gay marriage. We don't even say the
word gay in our community.
Is it true that black Americans came up with Don't Ask Don't
Tell?
I don't know if that's a true statement. But that's kind of I
don't care what you're doing in your bedroom.
Well, wait a minute. When did Don't Ask Don't Tell come out.
Was that during bush? Ah, it wasn't during Obama.
Not that was was it Clinton or Bush? Maybe it was it was pre
Obama. It was pre Obama.
Don't Ask, Don't Tell. Let's see when it was 2001. So it was
bush.
Okay. I knew it was right at the beginning of the 2000s when that
first start cropping up?
Well, considering George Bush is of course black. Maybe
no, that would be clean.
True. Well, really weird. That's really, really strange to
understand why she said that.
But the takeaway from that is, is true. I don't I don't care
what you do in your bedroom. I don't want to hear about
anything. You know. I mean, that's that's your own business.
But what she's talking about is the black church. Yeah. And she
was basically saying that clip. Black people were being accused
of why they lost the I think it was Prop Eight, I believe it was
called in California. I don't like gay marriage
proposal, that they mean, the Defense of Marriage Act?
No, the one in California. That was a state. That was a state.
California, what's the word? I'm looking at? What proposition?
Yeah, let me see if it was here. Well, let's see. 2008
proposition eight Yes, but that was to ban same sex marriage.
Right and black people once again didn't vote the way they
thought they were going to vote all black Christians, right.
This is why Obama had to come in as a marriage is between a man
and a woman. Mm hmm. See, it was it was one of those cases where
a lot of this has been thrusted upon and I want to make this
very clear black believers. I want to make this very clear
this this is a portion. This is not all black people. This is a
portion but black believers are like well, who you want me to
believe God are you us and like that's the that's the thing is
like I don't and they want black believers to basically say oh,
no, you gotta be okay with and it's like okay, I'm okay with
outside of church, but inside of church. I don't know if I can
conflicts with what I believe and notice they don't push this
anyway. You don't hear this kind of taught me a mosque. You don't
hear this kind of talking synagogues? No,
definitely not. Is
only churches so um, And the reason why it affects black
people so much is cost them money that comes with it. You
know, a lot of political money flows through the black church.
Yeah. I mean, we talked about that with Margaret Sanger is
alleged to be, you know, quoted, you know, you had to get,
you got to get that you got to get the reverence involved in
order to propagate a message.
Right. And we all know if you've ever been to a black church on
the Sunday before a Tuesday before election, gonna be some
white people on the front row. Or some politicians, at least,
you know, but it's very stark, because like all the black
people, and it's like, it's like three white people sitting on
the front row. It's like, oh, yeah, I'm here from, I'm running
for the City Council, or whatever else, I hope you can,
and which is totally illegal. So. So I just, I just want to
point this out that this this, the reason why I'm bringing this
up. This is the when the pendulum started swinging that
way, what we're seeing in real time now is that pendulum is
coming back via Clarence Thomas, which I told you, Clarence
Thomas was gonna be a major player in a previous show.
You are right, man, and boy, is he ever and I told you how
they will treat you ever.
I mean, he's, he's really, I mean, it's like they're really
going after him. It's incredible. I mean, they call
him the N word on Twitter. It's nuts.
Yes, no, it's not. I mean, Qatari called Kanye, Kanye. So I
mean, in the first thing is Kanye got suspended from
Instagram for calling the Trevor Noah coup. What we've seen
nobody's getting suspended for Clarence Thomas, and the way
he's been treated. Well, no issues with Clarence Thomas, you
know, I mean, I have my own issues with him. But yeah, but
he realizes that he's in demand right now. Oh, yeah. He got a
lot of juice. I don't know if any black man has had this much
juice inside of the nurse and the federal government in
history. She's on that might be high salt, like hyperbole, but
you know, hey, that balance it. I mean, we're talking about just
look at Prop Eight. You have this all over again, they had it
wrapped up with these, you know, Supreme Court decisions,
right. And Clarence Thomas is putting that back on the table.
Now, he
said on my way out. I'm gonna kick all of this over on my way
out, you know, hey, I've been treating me. Okay. And but he's
not getting the pushback that you think you would have got
from quote unquote, black community?
No, no, he's getting the pushback from the media and from
Black Lives Matter, Inc. and Roe v. Wade, Inc. And that's where
the white liberals Yes, yes, yes, Jen. Yeah,
cuz they were what they were saying some really like one
lady, she went all the way. But I told you when that pinch that
but this is the pendulum is swinging back. And it's, once
again, it's like, oh, okay, whoa, y'all are pushing the
boundaries. Now. And I say this to the same way I said about
Black Lives Matter to Black Lives Matter, Inc. You gotta
watch who's representing you. You know, I don't care what you
do in your bedroom, next your business. But the way they're
portraying y'all in the media right now with some of the stuff
that's going on at these parades and
have some dignity people know, what I'm
saying is how you're being represented by a small minority
is making it very hard for people to support. Yeah. The
same way, because I always say, well, black lives matter. You're
saying, Wait, it was the ink? Was it representing what the
people want? And that's why they're out on the island by
themselves right now, because the people aren't behind them.
So I'll say it's the same thing for all the other inks. You
know, it's gonna be the same thing with the border. It's
gonna be like, Oh, well. How open Do you want it to be?
You're gonna wish you just trust me. This pendulum is swinging
backwards. I'm just for warning people.
I think the pendulum swinging back in many places, I think
it's and it always happens. It's in its nature, you almost can't
help it. It's just It works that way.
Right? But we got to be careful as the pendulum and I've always
warn of this. We don't want the pendulum swing all the way the
other way either, because then we become a very the same thing.
It's just as polarizing. Exactly.
So I think we started 33 or 34. Now
for me, sweet victory. We had Obama but then that next day,
the only thing we heard competing with the victory was
the black community took gay marriage away from me Not all
gay people. It was a conversation about white gay
people. So it became white gay people, against African
Americans. Wow. All I could say for the next few weeks was Wow.
Because as I was trying to celebrate Obama, I was called
in. Like, I felt like I was being called him by Obama into
California to say, How did you let this happen? Now, last
population check, I think African Americans,
I can't let that slide back in about 10 minutes because she
just like, Excuse me. She said, she's like she she was being
caught in by Obama. And she said, like being called in by
Obama,
I have Ah, here it is.
All I can say for the next few weeks was Wow. Because as I was
trying to celebrate Obama, I was called in. Like, I felt like I
was being called him by Obama, and to California to say, How
did you let this happen?
Who calls her in? Who's got the juice there?
Was it her boss, Norman Lear. Maybe?
Now? Population check. I think African Americans about 7% of
the state of California, maybe no one pulled the stats on the
25% Latino community. No one pulled the stats on the 12%
Asian American community. I had people just calling because CNN
went up with this, you know, hellacious study. And then we
just totally gave the evangelical white people a pass
and decided that black America took gay marriage away from the
state of California. And then there goes California that goes
to country.
Wow. That's quite the accusation.
And when we see it with a black man took away Roe v. Wade. It
was five other justices. They voted with Clarence Thomas.
Yeah, no, no,
he's the only one it was the black guy. Yeah, that's he did
it all on his own. Yeah, that guy's horrible. Doesn't he care
about his children?
Right. But once again, this is this is how they're framing it.
But there is some We saw this with the vaccine. If we don't
get on board, other people are skeptical, like, whoa, whoa,
whoa, whoa, wait a minute. Like, even though we don't have the
numbers? Is the is the I don't know about that. You know,
that's why they push so hard. Like, I'm making rap songs and
everything else getting us on board,
and just kept saying and just kept saying over and over again.
Now historically, of course, we understand Tuskegee, you know,
oh, they kept it but you know, it's a new time as Fauci
right. So it's the same thing with this, these other agendas.
And when we talk about that, we're talking about political
agendas. And that's why Brock said Brock, it was necessary for
Brock Obama to do what he did in 2012. And make the pivot on what
a marriage was. Because they weren't gonna let him play that
role anymore. They forced
him they forced him by mate letting Joe's us have the cat
slip out of the bag. Exactly. And there he is, our man Joe,
ready to go once.
Again, always wanted to you. I guess we get to the next clip.
So now this is when they open up for the questions. And as one of
the one of the people there in the audience is going to ask her
a question about the struggle between faith and her sexuality.
There is a struggle there because there are words there.
And if we accept it as the indisputable truth, there is a
problem. Because how do we reconcile, I want to go to
heaven. I'm serious, I want to go there. But also, if my
pheromones say I'm attracted to a female, then I have that
conflict. So how do you address that?
I address it real simple. Because I am a car carrying
Christian. And my one of my spiritual teachers taught me
know me by my deeds. So my job is not in the book. The book is
there as a guide, but those were written by men. I haven't heard
one that doesn't tell me God wrote.
Okay, well, now we're in a deep spot lady. Who's your God? Yeah.
And she ends it with not one word of God, right? This is why
it's called a testament. It's the witnesses.
That is the mega talking point. That into power. Only God can
judge me which people think is in the Bible, which is not which
is not but that's that's the II mindset that was the mean, that
was the that was the push, right? No, you know, just kind
of like with the Constitution, ya know, some man wrote that
thing back in a man man, white man, white man.
It's not the same anymore. You know, we need to get the science
the Constitution
is a fluid document is gender fluid?
And this is the real attack on the patriarchy. Yep. Is anything
man wrote, there's no countered, or whatever their agenda is.
Gotta go. And for her to say I'm a card carrying member
Christian. And I don't care once you fill that blank and
whatever, it could be Muslim, it could be Jewish person,
whatever. It could be whatever they you say, but I don't
believe everything is written in the book. It's like so how can
you
remember? Yeah.
Yeah, but this is what they've done. And like I said, our shot
ring out on board, TD Jakes has gotten on board. And a lot of
these people have got on board and have political gain from it.
Most you see mostly Yeah. So this is I'm sure that that money
that she that pool of money that is going right back into the
church and this is why poverty affects the quote unquote black
community so badly that they need to resources sodium they
sell out. And I'm not condoning it, but I'm just saying that and
you're gonna see more of this because I'm gonna let you know
now. The black churches in trouble. Do toe COVID Yeah, no
church, no collections. No collections. No value. No
money. No value. Yep. No money. Yeah. These charges have
mortgages. Yeah, I mean, I sure hope if there's another
situation like that, no church allows that to happen.
And when you have the big institutions that you know, the
more like the AME Zion Baptist, there'll be okay. Because they
they're more of a Yeah, but it's the small
community churches, right? The ones
where there were independent a lot of these don't have fallen
once the threes where they can freely speak how they want to
speak. Because that's another thing and Michelle and I don't
want to go make this a black, but black church show but I'm
saying that these were the enrolls and this wasn't all
Democrats either, because I've heard Republican donors push the
same thing. Oh, yeah. Take us off in line so and it's only
Christians. But you you will get ran out of a mosque. If you when
they're talking about oh, yeah, we need I don't care what
Muhammad said. You know, that was just a man.
Yeah. While you're at a draw cartoon of him, that'd be fun.
That's exactly my point. The seriousness other religions when
you mentioned their name, and and we saw this with what
happened in floor with the Pulse nightclub? Yeah, that's not that
was one of the biggest if not the biggest shooting at a time
in American history, but the fact that the shooter was Muslim
politics won't let them use it like they want to know just like
with you, Valerie, I think it's how you pronounce it. Yeah, the
fact that he was Hispanic now they really can't use it like
they want to
know even though even though he shot his grandma in the head it
is a lot of things it's not cool when you start like that
right so I'm just saying like now we got to start questioning
who is their God? You know, is it is it they're not and like I
said, I'm not here to convert anybody I'm not even to push my
beliefs
This is the God of the Democrats
sorry. I couldn't resist
that's so offensive because it's like the bedrock of somebody's
beliefs. You think you can come in and bully them that they're
anti bullying, but then they want to use bullying pulling
your fund pulling your you know, whatever attacking your money
your financials to push their agenda. So it's like oh, whoa
isn't the guy that did the God I believe in the one saying what
she says she believes in or is it these people that are giving
your talking points so that's that's the point I want to make
out of that. So some I'm still keeping my eye on who was in
that room, but I want to wrap up with Neely fuller Jr. Just did.
This is about being effect, you know, Seven Habits of Highly
Effective People. Is something effective or not and not for me
personally but for the quote quote unquote community that we
always talk about so nearly full is not a rationalize. Is
homosexuality and lesbianism good for the quote unquote black
community?
Yes. Just like a person might come around and say, Well, hey,
you know, I used to kind of be attracted to people, you know,
had several wives and all like that. Even had a little incest.
I mean, every night. I mean, you know, and, but I finally came to
the conclusion that people ain't where is that at all? I'm in the
bath. You know, you say, well, you mean you end the bear into
bear. I go out in the woods and I chase me down. I bear the
bear. He said me no. Well, I'm Jason. I have found that that's
a wonderful alternative. I mean, after Oh, man. coming in. Let's
face it. Look at these marriages and divorces and whatnot. How
handled trouble with the bears? I mean, I used to didn't think
of anything about bears, except just go into the ballgame. But
if found out that, man, if you really snuggle up to a bear,
you'll never want to go back. Do a nun nails. Now, where'd you
get that idea? Well, it just came to me one night. Tired of
these women? In fact, people was telling me well, if you don't
like women get you a man. Well, I'm tired of them too. So I'm in
the bath. So you know you might laugh, but it's gonna come to
that. If anything already goes there are some people into that.
Yeah, they call it what do you call it? Beast? ality? Yes, sir.
Yeah. So you know, I mean, that might be a wholesale thing, and
abundant another 10 years. They say, Oh, hey, you know, this gay
and lesbian thing. But lay it out, man anyway said, you know,
man, everybody's trying to preserve the barrels. Now, you
know, I'm trying to get me a pen.
The reason why I put that in there is go go for 2000 T. And
when they were pushing this to now was happening out in the
streets.
No, I totally agree. I mean, he he's, of course, being kind of
facetious. But really, I mean, you can push anything, and it
seems to work eventually.
And it's not about the people. No, because I just laid that out
in the first segment of the show. We have gay men, black,
being killed by white man, serial killer. And nobody said
anything where all the activities that were with Black
Lives Matter.
They were just hustlers. They were nival
Exactly what he gets more serious in 37. Like, I just
wanted to lay it out how asinine it sounds. But now he gets more
serious.
So what is the point that I'm making? It's a lots of things
that the man can do. The man is extremely inventive, and
extremely flexible. But the basic question is, is this type
of activity and improvement? And if so, why? Otherwise? Why you
come around asking black people who don't even have a roof over
their head, that this is what they should be pushing them to
even have a decent school or a decent job. But now you want
them to get joined the gay rights movement. And that should
be their priority, we should drop everything else and make
that a priority. I don't see the justification at all. They have
some white people who came around years ago and started
saying calling it the rainbow. You know, kind of you might
excuse the pun tailgating, Jesse Jackson's Rainbow PUSH for civil
rights. And then they got the same Well, what is this all
about? And when the question was asked, they answered by saying,
well, it's another division of civil rights. Yeah. You know,
it's all the same thing. Discriminating against gays as
the same discriminating against blacks. And a lot of black
people say, wait a minute, it may sound like the same thing,
but in a same thing. But they were able to shout all of that
down. It is the same thing. Why is it the same thing? Because I
said so. White supremacy in action again, always calls?
That's it. So
let me ask you a question. In general, I mean, I know your
stance a lot of our show has been about this. Do you feel
black America understands what's happening and does not agree
with it, or is it a percentage? I mean, where do you think that
is? It's
two different conversations. One, what a person does and who
they're attracted to. That's one thing got it. But the CC
furcation the little knot, and I never mentioned his name, but
just to draw imagery, the little NAS x aspect of it, the pushing
of more of, and it's not even about homelessness, it's about
the flamboyancy of it. You have no representation across the
spectrum because there's a spectrum inside their community.
But what we get is RuPaul. Little NAS x. What's the porter
guy name? Billy Porter Porter, you see, I'm saying like, it's
no serious and maybe a better word for it. But there's no
serious Hey,
man, we gave you dense hell, and then that should just be enough.
Right? That's, that's the thing. It's just like, how now like,
these are two different things. I mean, why are you portraying?
And then the other thing is that, as he said, There's way
other bigger issues that we need to deal with no kid, but they
prioritize for us. And they say, like, say white supremacy is
because I said so. Right that NASA is like this, like we heard
in the NCAA clip, when she came out and said what she said, they
got on code when he wished he got a name. Um, what's the
comedian's name? The little guy? Kevin, Kevin Hart. He had to
apologize twice. Look at Dave Chappelle attacked on stage, and
was justified for telling the joke. This is this is the true
white supremacy this is we can check Oh your God. Oh, your God
said what? No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm your God. Yeah. And
that's what I think we have one more clip? Yes, we do. He's
going to illustrate the point of white supremacy. Is there a God?
And that's how you handle religion to just go into
question mode. The minute a person says that God is a
leader, you keep asking questions. And then after they
answer the questions during August, don't ever argue with a
person about religion. It later that barber shop now where
religion is talked about all the time, don't ever argue about
religion, does ask questions about that person's religion.
And then when that person gets to talking about how much they
believe in their religion, then watch and see what they do when
the white supremacists come around. That's the test about
who their god is. If you're you know, as an adult, you know, you
don't have to say nothing. Just watch what they do. When the
lights or premises come around, and say I don't like what you're
doing. And what I'm doing is according to my religion, oh,
oh, you know, you gonna tell me with your black self. And I'm a
white person in the system of white supremacy. And with your
black self, you're gonna tell me about religion, and what your
religion tells you to do. And I just told you to do something.
That's just just the opposite. Oh, now, it's testing time now.
And every black person on the planet understands that
testing time yeah,
they take the shot Mo Oh, well take a shot. Because I said so.
Aim ever been a time where you're saying My job was taught
to vaccine. Natives today? Take the shot.
I always love how fuller always says supremecy instead of
supremacy and I think it really matters that he pronounces it
that way
to premise and just to clarify his for new listeners were his
definition of widespread a one world government the same the
same. Do you win or what are you global? We're economic. For
whatever you want to call it,
anything starting with a W probably right?
Gas was good
2016 and 2020 GaNS bad now your money on it well yeah, that's
that's that's real white supremecy however you said it
Yeah, that's very supremecy Yeah, that's it cuz I said so
your dollar Oh, no. Your dollar were half what it was
yeah, this is this is pretty that's big. You've you've
actually this is this leaves it open for many more episodes. The
way I see it, we got a lot more a lot more ground to cover. And
really, we I mean, I'm, I need to know who the fourth person
was in the room. This is bugging the crap out of me. I need to
know who
we need to find that out and not Want to make it clear? No one's
safe from this and when I mean this, whatever you think you're
a bedrock of belief is Oh, no. Vaccines used to be you take one
you get it for the rest of your life. Herd immunity used to beat
now white supremacy came along say no no herd immunity
never heard of herd immunity now that's off the table. Have you
noticed that it's completely gone? There is no such thing.
It's Oh, we're only 90% vaccinated which at 80 You've
got herd immunity supposedly. It's off the table. Yeah.
That's it. Like I said, that's that one word, government.
That's that because I said so. They were able to question
thank you for another exhilarating lesson, really. I
mean, I learned so much here and so much I missed and I'm kind of
kicking myself because this Gillum thing, man, what a huge
what a huge rabbit hole and the fourth person in the room
with a lot of innuendo to be picked up on but I just found
that we say the DOJ is a persecuting these black man. And
they're worried. Oh, and we got to America. I'm looking at you.
Yeah, we got to figure out what's going on. Because there's
there's big forces at work. There's big things happening.
And it could be it could be multiple parties, it could be
two different forces working against each other. It seems
that that's possible.
Either way it pans out it's gonna be interesting to watch
and we're seeing the pendulum swinging back. We just need to
make sure we humanize people have the empathetic seat first
to understand and be understood. And then we can you know make
sure we don't swing too far back the other way either to become
oppressive and just another polar opposite manner.
I thank you for the work mo fantastic well done.
I appreciate that. And as I always say, pay attention to
everything and the truth who is realistic
and we will reveal ourselves on the next episode of moe facts
with Adam curry remember us at mo facts.com Thanks brother.
I'll talk to you later that I heard one. To use summon the
cloud
What's up