Moe Facts with Adam Curry for pril 27 2021. This is episode
umber 62. And they're strong orces at work, ladies and
entlemen. It's always America, e get this show out at all. I'm
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This is true. Hey, Mo it's been it's been way too long. I went
on vacation. So apologies that I was out of pocket. And then we
we got resituated. And we knew there was some stuff coming up
that we probably wanted to discuss. So it's kind of good
that we had an opportunity to wait a little bit longer for
today's show how you been though? what's what's been going
on with you.
Everything's going pretty good. Um, just some, you know, live
stuff coming at you. But other than that, you're saying it's
going pretty good.
Excellent, man. Excellent. Well, I am very excited to be talking
to you again. I missed the show. It's like no agenda, doing that
for 14 years. And like I can actually turn that off a little
bit. But I like talking to him. Oh, man, I've really missed
that. So
it's good. It's all good. Well, in the meantime, I have put
together a nice bag for so if you want to get to that we'll we
can
Yeah, you bet. I'm going to reach over here. Let me get the
the wheel of topics here. Hold on a second. Round, the round
goes where it stops. Nobody knows the only person who really
knows what the topic for today is. Facts. Let's see what the 62
is going to be all about. cults are as cults do. Cold All right.
Yes, that's unexpected. That's a little curveball cults are as
cults do.
Yes. So we ought to talk about the code or Wolk, aka the Holy
cow, um, and the George Florida case, and I said I would not
talk about the case instead had wrapped right, and now it's time
to talk about it. I guess we could start off where we left
off and show for the politics and jumping right to number two.
On Monday, May 25, Minneapolis police officers respond to a
call about a customer using a counterfeit $20 bill. Officers
arrive and pull the suspect 46 year old George Floyd from his
car, placing him in handcuffs. minutes later, officers lay
Floyd down beside the rear tire of the police car. An officer
later identified as Derek travian places his knee and
Floyd's neck. As Floyd tells officers he can't breathe.
bystanders plead for
stopping his breathing right there.
After approximately three minutes, Floyd becomes
unresponsive. Officer Chaldean continues to keep his knee and
Floyd's neck until paramedics arrive approximately five
minutes later. The incident is the latest in a series of
racially charged confrontations in recent weeks, including the
death of Mr. Dougherty, the police shooting a Briana Taylor,
and a 911 column at a blackbird watcher in Central Park.
Oh, man, that was Episode 40. Seems like so long ago.
So what we're not going to do is traumatize people with a blow by
blow the case. We're going to look at this whole situation
from beginning to end, how it played out and the symbolism
that went on with this whole situation. There's something
that I call that two things I called going back and listen to
these clips and this is why we revisit those clips because it's
the propaganda is so thick that you miss different points about
it. In this clip, did you listen to the pronunciation of the
officer's name? Maybe just like run it. I think maybe catching
the first 10 seconds I want you to hear it because okay. Pick it
up.
On Monday, May 25 Minneapolis police officers respond to a
call about a customer using a counterfeit $20 bill. Officers
arrive and pull the suspect 46 year old George Floyd from his
car, placing him in handcuffs. minutes later, officers lay
Floyd down beside the rear tire of the police car. And officer
later identified as Derrick Robin.
Robin instead of Shogun travian. Hmm, interesting.
That was the this is the first account of hot Yes, yes. So
we're going to talk about That but first I want to talk about
the date. This was Memorial Day. Yeah. And we didn't stress that
point. When we've covered the you know, the the mayhem in the
process and everything that happened after the after the the
murder of George Floyd, um, that being Memorial Day and then
later, they're trying to push this. This is According to ABC
in Raleigh. Oh, ABC 11 as the day of enlightenment, oh, yes,
the Georgia Florida Memorial symbol on Memorial Center
website says they want may 25 to be commiserated as the day that
the world came together for a common purpose and open the
world's eyes to the plight of black Americans and they want it
to be referred to as the day of enlightenment that we didn't
discuss that it was saying, Oh, we didn't we didn't. But when I
went back and listened to clip I was like, Calvin, that's weird
end it was right in front of my eyes. What had happened here. We
know him as What now? Derek show joven Yeah. And Shelvin is
spelled just like chauvinism.
Yes, it is as ch a UV you know, chauvinism.
chauvinism, word for word come from. The term chauvinism. Allah
is French and dates back to the 1830s there was a man named
Nicholas Chavez. So the story goes he was the most loyal
soldier in Napoleon's Grand Army. It was said that he was
born in rush for around 1780 and enlisted at the age of 18. He
served with such dedication Napoleon himself presented
Chauvin with a military award, the saver of honor. Chauvin was
badly wounded in the wall, but remained a fanatical bonapartist
even after Napoleon's exile in 1815. And the restoration of the
monarchy is louder than fashionable obsession with the
good old days of empire made him into an object of mockery. And
his name was given to a ridiculous character in a
popular play of 1831 the word cross the channel and began to
be used in English around 1870. Then, Shogun is a meant
belligerent patriotism just as it did rather lightly English
word jingoism.
Wow, okay, never expected it to go this direction, Mo. Well,
we're
going there early today. Right out the box with this, because
it was right in front of my face. And I didn't even see it
until I listen to the old clip of how they originally said his
name. And then they just switched it. And this is where I
need to lean on you in there. They actually have readings of
how names are read, right? Correct.
Mm hmm.
Yeah. What does that call when they phonetic phonetic? Oh, no,
no, no, I'm saying when the when the media passes around said
we're going to refer to this person.
Style Guide it's the
style guide. Yes. That's what it is. Yeah. So somewhere along the
way. He became went from chosen to show him and we look at who
is shelving is in the definition of his name. It's very hot with
us. Very subtle, but wow. Oh, the good old days of the Empire
and belligerent patriotism.
Wow, just spell it spell. It's a spell right off the bat. I'm
starting to recognize them now.
Yeah,
well, let's go ahead and dive into part two of that clue.
Show when is meant belligerent patriotism, just as it did in
France, rather lightly English word jingoism. By the 1930s. Its
meaning had evolved and referred to a fanatical devotion to any
cause and hostility towards outsiders. It began to be used
as journalism and plays particularly when the unequal
position of women in society was being discussed. But it was in
the 1960s and 70s that the use of the word chauvinism really
took off amongst feminists, the term male chauvinist pig became
popular turning up in films and magazines, including
playboy.
use of the word chauvinist peaked in the 1980s. Other terms
like sexist and misogynist, have risen in use more recently, but
it is President Trump's slogan America first. That really harks
back to the original meaning of chauvinism. The apocryphal
Nicholas Chauvin might even recognize if he ever really
existed that is
ever really existed.
Oh, now, do we have any other examples of Derek jovens name
pronounced that way, or is this the only one?
There's only one and this like I said, this is the one the first
account that I pulled for, for a show 40 this that was the
official timeline for NBC News, right? And that's how they
pronounced it chosen. Um, but he had become Derek Shelvin, and
you set a spell and you're correct. And the appropriate
term is called a sigil. That's something go past your conscious
mind to your subconscious mind.
A sigil.
You call that a C? Yes, I think it's si G. l. syndrome. And what
it does is like a meme, it goes past. It's been running for our
face this whole time. Wow. But when you look at it's like oh
Shelvin chauvinist. And then you rang your bell? What did you
catch when you rang your bell?
chauvinist, pig chauvinist pig Yes, chauvinist pig and then
later of course, they brought in President Trump. Yeah.
chauvinist pig
Yeah, police police officer. Oh, Mo. This is this is too much
coincidence.
Well, now we got to go and look at why do people sometimes call
police officers pigs.
unlike so many other nicknames for the police, such as cops in
the first this particular term has a relatively well known
origin. Starting around the 16th century, a pig began being used
in English as a derogatory term for people whether the police or
not, as it is still sometimes used today. It took about three
more centuries that this particular insult inevitably
became popular nickname for often self police officers with
the first documented reference to this being in the dictionary
of bookish slang, university wit and pickpocket eloquence
published in London in 1811. In it the person in line in
question is the pigs frisked my penny and nailed my screws,
meaning the officers searched my house and seized my pig blocks.
So what I'm just saying is when you see his name Derek Shelvin,
do you think chauvinist pig now,
when I was growing up, I heard my mom say this sometimes Did
you ever hear mom in fact, say that talk about someone being a
chauvinist pig?
Yes, yeah. Yes, I've heard both terms. Actually. Not by not not,
not by mama facts. No, no, no. But now I've heard both. But
when you put it together, it tells how they want to paint
him. And it's fair. It's so interesting, because I do recall
thinking this one it all first came down like oh,
that's that's a coincidence. Shogun chauvinist.
And that's a
belligerent patriot that long for the good old days. Yeah. Who
is hostile to outsiders?
I mean,
I'm holding on holding on for dear.
Opening up like that. We got to go back to show 40 NBC News two.
On Tuesday, May 26. The Minneapolis Police Department
releases a statement saying Floyd physically resisted
officers.
What we saw was horrible. This man's life matters.
The mayor announces all four officers involved in the arrest
have been fired. And the Minnesota bureau of criminal
apprehension and the FBI announced they will also be
investigating the
arrest. To be clear, the Department of Justice has made
the investigation in this case, a top priority.
Hundreds of people gathered Minneapolis on Tuesday night to
decry the death of Floyd police officers in riot gear fire
rubber bullets at the crowd.
So I want to just want to count we're just laying out what
happened for people that maybe have been under a rock and I
don't know about this case. And it ended up with Derek Chauvin
getting convicted with the max amount of counts that he could
get in this case. Um, but I feel personally there was no justice.
And I'm going to lay out that well. We know what that word
means. Wetlands who was right
well, there is another term that I've picked up on and I'm sure
this will come later down the road but this term
accountability has
yes equity as well. Yeah, equity.
I know but I keep hearing accountability and how does this
work into it but we'll get there I guess.
Yeah, well, we'll get there but what I want to say is this that
the reason why I don't feel like there's justice because no
matter what you how you look what lens you looked at this
case from the appropriate charge, and ORS. Reason for his
death was not fully in Vietnam was not investigated but wasn't
fully explored. It was To fully explore because, well, we were
okay. We were counting. He had three co conspirators if you
want to use that word now, I mean, since he's been convicted,
right, it was the three other officers. But what they did was,
they're nowhere to be found because one I don't think
they're good for optics. One guy looks kind of black is Asian,
he's just saying so these don't, they were just like, let's put
out the belligerent patriot. Put him up front, what we're not
exactly for sacrifice. And a lot of this show is gonna be
surrounded about morale sacrifice, because there were
two sacrifices that happened in this situation. And we're gonna
explore both of them, but I guess we can go into the new
details on officers.
Those alarming new details emerging about the other three
officers on the scene with Derek Chauvin during George Floyd's
last moments. Alex Flores joins us with the latest from
Minneapolis on that part of the story. Good morning, Alex. Hey,
good
morning, Amy. Well, for the first time we may be learning
what the defense argument for these other officers involved in
the case may be now those other officers at tau tau J. Alexander
King and Thomas lane all made their first appearance in court
Thursday. They're each facing multiple charges, including
aiding and abetting second degree murder, to have them in
court shifting blame to veteran officer Derrick Chauvin, the one
scene in that horrific video digging his knee into Floyd's
neck, the attorneys for King and Lane telling the judge that they
were both rookie officers when the incident occurred with
George Floyd both on the job full time for only a handful of
days, Kings attorneys saying he told the other officer quote,
you shouldn't do this. And lns attorneys saying he asked joven
Shall we roll him over and that he performed CPR on Floyd in the
ambulance. Now, Chevron has not yet appeared in court. But those
other three officers are being held on a million dollar bail.
His own team sent him up the river. Yeah. And from the
imaging and the recording of the of the situation, there was
three offers with their knee and his back at one time or another.
So let me let me let me illustrate where I'm going with
this. No matter how you saw the case, because I know this
country is very divided on this case. Half of them say that the
guy was guilty of murder. And the other half says, Well, it
was other factors that we will explore later that were played
into the death of George fluid, which when i'm saying is no
matter which way you fall on this, either. If you're gonna
say he was murdered, then you have to look at these other
options as well.
Yeah, certainly based upon the video evidence, and
yeah, what I'm just saying. So what we're gonna look at first,
if you fall on that side, this is why you didn't receive the
appropriate definition of justice. And then we'll explore
the other half later in the show, if you think it failed the
other way. Because what I'm saying is the way I saw this
case play out, there was no justice in this case, at all, at
all. I mean, that one was playing. Wow. Now, this next
clip comes from show 40 and this is judge Jeanine Pirro and she's
on Fox News. And she tends to be on the conservative side a
little bit and this is a little bit and what she does is she
what she's gonna point out as what I how I felt about the
situation. So people can be clear on that. And it's just
strange that I'm gonna say this is very few people that think
that they're Shelvin didn't play a role play a role in the death
of George Floyd. Now, what's like on that spectrum? What was
his level of responsibility and culpability? Um, but I think
we're all it was on board and i'm i'm using her clip is even
on Fox News. They allowed her to go out here and say this. So
that goes to show you that it was quite clear something was
amiss in this whole situation,
folks, this is not just recklessness. This is not just
approved indifference to human life. This is not just an
intentional murder. This is premeditated murder one. Chauvin
was reminded over and over again, that he was snuffing the
life out of George Floyd. He was reminded by George Floyd begging
and wailing for his life. He was reminded by the witnesses and
passers by, he was reminded as he felt the life of George Floyd
being expelled under his knee. This is not a man who didn't
comprehend or understand the depravity. Again and again he
was called upon to stop to check to roll them off his back to
check his pulse to see that his nose was bleeding to put him in
the car. At every one of these points, his attention was drawn
to what he was doing. And he had a chance to stop. Every one of
these alerts was a trigger that alerted him to the consequences
of his actions, and was a point of premeditation, after which he
made the conscious decision to continue.
Now just say that when, when this went down, I called my
buddy in Colorado, who's a EMT. And I said, Man, look at this,
because he had taught me this term A long time ago, which is
excited delirium. Okay, and he deals with that a lot. And
essentially, it's someone who's overdosing on heroin or some
kind of opioid, but may have had either math or or some PCP, you
know, some other stimulant. And he says, what what happens is,
is really crazy. He'll bring people back to life with Narcan,
you know, so a little, little shot in the nose there. And
they, first of all, they wake up, they're extremely angry. And
they're, they've like superhuman strength, because they're all
hyped up on on some kind of amphetamine, is really, really
difficult. And they're very, he says, at that point, they have
almost superhuman strength, they often have to throw a hood on
him, because they're speeding and biting and going nuts. And
he said that he says that guy, before there was even trouble.
He says, from what he saw as a professional, he said that guy
was already dying, before anything happened before he was
on the ground before any of that stuff. So that's, that's
correct. That's the part that that I know, from, from what
I've heard from, I think, pretty reliable sources.
And that was me, I heard that count on several occasions. But
I'm gonna I am not speaking from a lawyer because I am not a
lawyer. I'm speaking from a person that went to the Law
School of Law and Order, and court TV, movies, and the real
stuff. Know what, because what I'm saying that that is what
shapes people's perception of the law. And I'm not, I'm not in
this case. I'm not here to debate as far as the
technicalities, or what the legal mind say, or you're still
saying, I'm saying you have two people. And one is on one side
saying it was murder one, straight up and now and all the
other cops should be charged same as him. And I'll explain
why in a minute. And on the other side, you have people that
say more what you're saying is, he was dying anyway. And the
drugs killed him. Yeah, let's just put it out there. Now,
somewhere in between there is the truth. But no matter if you
believe on the one hand or the other hand, neither one of those
received justice in this case. That's my point I'm trying to
make I gotcha. Nobody can leave this case happy. Because if he
truly did die of drug overdose, then we need to go and find out
who saw him the drugs and charged them with murder one,
because we seen this with what's the guy's name? I'm kind of
chubby guy. Actor wore glasses. He died of a heroin overdose.
Philip
Seymour Hoffman?
Correct. When he died? They went into rescue for other people for
his death. Yeah, well,
he was a Hollywood actor after all.
But this is not just he should George floors to get the same
justice that he got. He's still saying, I'm saying nobody can be
happy in this. Yeah. And if you're going to put this if
you're going to hang this on Derek Chauvin, the blue line
needs to stick with him, that goes to show you that they wrote
on him and say, no, it's all on him, which we know this. From my
perspective, this was all I wouldn't say. I'm not one of
those people that go out, say, Oh, they plan this on this date,
they do have this happen. There are there are that group out
there saying that I don't really fall in that group. I don't
poopoo that as well. I mean, who knows crazy This world is. But
what I'm just saying is they looked at all these things. And
they highlighted all of these things. Because guess what, when
you look at it, it's perfect balance on both sides, because
you can look at it through whatever lens you look through,
and you're going to be pissed off at it. And that was the
whole purpose.
That's always that's Yeah, that when you assume that to be the
point,
right. That's why I said that's why no justice really had
because if it was just going to recount this woman, cuz I know
people are a lot in their emotions right now. And that's
why I didn't talk about this case. You're saying from this
perspective until it was over? Because I wanted people to see
how it played out. And you have a conservative judge here,
Jeanine Pirro on Fox News, which is, which is to believe to be
conservative. We know kind of saying we
run it, we know who's really
Exactly. But what I'm saying is, they're the right hand wing on
Bird, and for her to come out and say that, yeah, that kind of
lets you know that's that's the string. That's the furthest that
string you can go to. And that's on Fox News. Yeah. Like and then
on the other side, you know, if he wasn't killed by the cop,
then we need more people arrested and brought to justice
and talk about murder one, you might be saying, well mo murder
one Seriously? Yes, Number eight,
I spent the last 16 years of my life in prison serving time for
murder. That's right murder. But the thing is, I didn't kill
anyone. And don't just take my word for it. The judge, the
prosecutor, and the jury, in my case, all agreed that I hadn't
killed anyone. But they still sentenced me as the actual
killer and put me in prison with 25 years to live. Alright, I
want to tell you about something called the felony murder rule.
It's a glitch in our criminal justice system, a glitch we only
have in the United States. And it basically says this glitch.
felony murder rule, any death, which occurs during the
commission of a felony is first degree murder. And all
participants in that felony can be charged with and found guilty
of murder. translation, if you commit a felony. And while that
felony is happening, someone gets killed, you can be found
guilty of murder. Whether or not you killed anyone. Here's an
example. Let's say you let your friend borrow your car. You
know, he's gonna use it to commit a robbery. But then he
ends up killing someone. The felony murder rule says that
you're equally guilty of the murder as your friend. This
actually happened to a guy named Brian Holley. Instead of going
to prison for an attempted robbery. He served in life
without the possibility of parole. Or what about this? You
and your friend decided to commit a robbery as you're
running away? Your friend is shot dead by the police. The
felony murder rule says that you are going to prison for his
murder,
even though it was a cop killed.
Wow. Okay. Now
Now you now you see why says no justice. Yeah, in this case,
did they try to Didn't they try to lay this on President Trump
or something to that I recall, vaguely there was something like
this.
I mean, I'm sure they tried to make sense, right? It makes
complete sense. Yeah. But what I what I'm trying to illustrate to
people is this. Okay, say it was manslaughter at the point became
manslaughter, those other people in commission of that crime, if
you're going to charge all of them by the felony murder rule,
you have to give them all murder one, right? Or if you're going
to say drugs killed him, then you need to go and find the
people that committed the felony. You're saying that like
I suppose.
If you want complete justice, yes. Right. Well, I
thought that's what we were striving for here.
Please, you didn't really think that did you?
Know what I'm what I'm saying is by the people was pushing the
narratives. Yeah. Yeah. And they left us right where they wanted
us at right now. Oh, it's the perfect illusion. Is that blue
dress? black dress kind of thing. blue dress? Yeah, yes. No
matter what language you look at, it is a you're not gonna be
happy. And we're, I'm gonna give you this the perspective of how
you're saying I look at as a black man, and I barely rarely
say that. Oh, you're saying on this show. But the reason why I
say that is because I have to tell and communicate while
people are so frustrated. When we watch first 48 television
shows, it'll be a case where three black kids go do A, B and
E. And they start Oh, lady, she falls over with a heart attack.
And they all go down for murder. Murder one. Got it. So when you
set that standard, you gotta you gotta
you got to keep it you got to keep the standard.
Well, it's not about keeping it what it is, is that that's what
shaped these. Our minds. Now. I mean, of course, I know, there
is a greater sense of you know, they're shades of gray. But what
I'm saying is when I look at this case, I'm like, why did you
get those three kids murder? Why?
I mean, let me translate. Let me translate. Yes. So and I'll use
the term as a black man. You look at this, you're used to
hearing the second part of the sentence, which is, well,
because the old lady died, you're getting murder one.
You're all going you're all going to jail. And you've heard
that. I think this
week, will you be watching the show first 48, which is very
popular amongst
them to become too busy watching the Oscars. I got no time. No.
It's this show. Yeah, you were like three other people. But
what I'm saying is, um, and while we have this show, is to
have these conversations. Yes. Yeah. So people can first seek
first to understand then to be understood, you know, have
empathy for both sides. And so that's my point because as a
white man, I get to say it
I've never really even heard this. So you've been exposed to
it for obvious reasons, much more than I have. Is that Is
that a fair assessment? Yeah, I
mean, it's just I'm not saying I'm out here doing being ease.
I'm talking about what the media shows me. Yeah, week after week
on a television show that you're saying, mostly is dominated by
the presence of a young black man. Yeah, I've never.
I've never seen
the most disgusting example was this. One guy calls up his
friend and say, Hey, you know, anybody got any weed? And he was
like, Yeah, I know. Somebody got weed. He takes them over to the
guy's house. He sits in the car, the guy goes and buys the weed,
rather than kill the people in the house. They both get
murdered one. Wow. Just like that. Yeah. Okay, so what shapes
your perspective? It's like when you see this case, and usually
for cops involved nine minutes on his back, nobody says pulls
him out, like come on Derek. bullcrap.
I don't want to get murdered.
Right. So as I said, it's not just this not to be had because
what they had was perfect. They had to sacrifice the put up on
the call truce, and for the call the woke the Holy cow. Yeah, and
it was like it weren't perfect. But I know I talked a lot here.
But I'm trying to know I got I know that. No, I have to say, I
know there's some people on both sides right now that are pissed
at me. Maybe but what I have to do, I don't care. I mean, you
know me. I truly don't care because I understand what this
is meant to do. And if you're allowing that to do it to you,
then you're, you're a victim. And I actually feel empathy for
you. It's not I'm angry at you because you're angry at me,
because I'm not going to regurgitate talking points.
But look at this case. So this is what I this is what I love
about the show mo is like you're you're first of all, you're
giving me something that I hadn't thought about, you know,
it's like I've never even I don't even know about this part
of justice. And that's on me. But this is exactly the kind of
show where we can have these conversations. And and I love it
that you that you say there's no justice on either side. That's
the important part. That's what people need to understand is
we're all being played.
That's the whole point. That's the whole point. And so I mean,
not to say is Hussein stray too far, but I just want to lay that
out. Just so everybody understands what's going on with
the show, you know and understand. So I think we
stopped that.
Next.
Yes, please. By Wednesday, as protests spread nationwide.
George Floyd sister Bridget Floyd calls for justice.
I would like for those officers to be charged
with murder. Thursday, new video reveals the three officers were
on top of Floyd during governor Tim Walz activates the National
Guard. On the third night of protests crowds gather outside
the third police precinct in downtown Minneapolis. The
standoff soon spirals out of control, with officers
evacuating the police station just after 10pm local time as
protesters entered the building. The police precinct as well as
several buildings in the surrounding neighborhood are lit
on fire. several businesses are looted
smoke shop, and there's a liquor shop.
Then there's the street police station is right across
from the police station. There are
fires burning in different directions around me.
There's another fire over there.
Yes, the Summer of Love.
Yeah. And that's the thing. This thing was not this thing was not
only about a presidential election, this is about the way
the world's going to go. And that you might think that's
grandiose, but it's really it's not. Because if this doesn't
happen, um, I think the pandemic wasn't enough to get Trump out
of office. I really don't. Because I mean, at the end of
the day, the money came back. The stock market went down, but
it came back. And he's like, well, it's like, well, you know,
it wasn't an economical thing. It was this this constant
pressure from this case, and then everything stacked on top
of it. And we talked about the three waves and how was
strategic laid out in 41
actually had multiple waves. You had the three waves of the
protest, but at the same time, that's what we had. We had
Coronavirus waves and we had media waves discrediting
everything the president said and it was a pylon that was
crazy.
And and the world stop. So you had nothing to do but fixate on
it. Right. You know, that was part of it, too. Yeah. That it's
like I'm stuck in my house all day and all on the airwaves.
There's nothing more that I'm bored in the house. I'm in the
house bored. Right? That's exactly right. So Tick Tock. In
that case, in that clip, they said three officers had his knee
on his back. Yeah. So they They've changed. And I'm not
saying that Derek Shelvin wasn't the initiator and the main
culprit in this situation. What I'm saying is, I thought it was
rotting out together
right now, I guess not.
I never seen it play out like I'm talking about from top to
bottom, the law enforcement and justice apparatus turn their
back on their shoulder. And I've never seen that before in my
life. And when I see stuff like that, it's like, That was too
easy. Yeah, that
making a good point.
So I'm just like, I'm only speaking from my perspective,
but I can see it from both sides. I mean, because I under
seek to understand the other side of how people may see it.
So I think we stopped that.
We're going back to Episode 59.
Okay, we're going back to 59. This is restoring just as well,
we actually define when they say what I believe when the court
says, justice, what they mean, they're not talking about the
law, and how the law is executed. They're talking about
their God is this in every courtroom around the world, and
we're not talking about just in America, she's around the world.
Welcome to chasing Gods where we find meaning with symbols and
myths. To judge with justice is believed to be one of the top
virtues by philosophers, writers and artists of the ancient
world. From ancient Egypt to Ancient Greece and Rome, Justice
has been personified by a goddess who not only belongs to
the highest ranks of gods, but whose symbolism is even sought
by them, you could imagine what justice must have meant to men.
This goddess I'm talking about is Lady Justice. You've probably
seen her but may not have paid too much attention. She could be
a statue, an emblem or figurine to represent justice in the
legal system worldwide. She holds a scale the sword, and at
times, she wears a blindfold.
I thought she always wore a blindfold.
That's another one. I didn't catch the first time we listen
to these clips. Hmm, sometimes.
Interesting.
I've did I'm glad you said it. Because I was gonna say it.
Well, I'm glad you picked up on that as well. And neither one of
those picked up on it last time we were now. And what I'm what
I'm illustrating here is these. If this information is
pertinent, what happens now because these people at the
higher levels believe in this even though you may not believe
in it. They believe in some wacky stuff.
mysticism, Greek mythology.
So when you go back and look at Epstein Island, you had to see
all Oh,
yeah, yeah, sure. Sure.
And all the things we laid out in the last 61 shows that point
back to their affinity for for Egypt, Egyptian relics and signs
and symbols. So I just want to lay that out there as well that
when they say justice, because you're going to hear a lot in
the next few clips, um, what they I think what my perspective
what they're referring to, so we stopped there, we can get back
into nbc news for
in the early hours of Friday morning. St. Paul police report
that nearly 170 businesses have been damaged by vandalism
looting or fires. Minneapolis police arrest tax officer Derek
Charmin and charged with murder and manslaughter, charging
papers, data choppin had his knee and Floyd's neck for eight
minutes and 46 seconds. Friday night. Demonstrations continue
across the country. 100 juror arrested, police cars are burned
and scuffles breakout between law enforcement and protesters
in New York, New Atlanta, Los Angeles and the governors of
several states deploy the National Guard to restore order.
Yeah, always though cities always those
every time and they were like this is the big one. This is the
so I have to look at this. Like I look at 911. And the people
who say maybe this was all planned. If this doesn't happen,
if not 11 doesn't happen. History is altered. So just from
that perspective, you want to go out on that limb. I'm not
necessarily what I'm saying I don't have any proof or any
facts that lean towards it was, you know, a planned scenario.
But if something like this falls in your lap, the news media
knows what to do with Yeah,
you know, the way I let me just interject for a sec. And there's
a reason for this. So recently, we had a cop shoot and kill
three people here in Austin. Did you hear about it? I did not
know. shot and killed his daughter, her boyfriend and a
star football player for UT who had just been recruited a cop?
I think I heard this kid. Yeah. Black cop. Yay. I'm gonna tell
you why I didn't hear it. Let me give you where I did hear it and
why I didn't hear it. I didn't hear it in my race circle of
where I gather information from I heard it in the they tried to
pin it off on the manosphere mig tau reason. Oh, total cost. He
totally Yep. Yeah, it was right away. It was like, sexual
assault of domestic abuse all this stuff. And then he was a
chauvinist pig was a chauvinist pig, but they did not play it up
at all at all. Can you imagine? Imagine if it was
in the anti anti man circle? They did, but not on the race
channels. See? That's how deep it's like, well, yeah, he was
anti man. No, yeah.
So the reason I bring it up. The reason I bring it up is I, I'm
totally with you on it's planned. And I think the way it
works is okay, we're ready. We've got everything in place.
All the actors are ready, everyone we need. We just need
the right case. And we've seen this several times. But you
know, when it's
brown versus blue, we saw this with Brown versus Board of
Education. We saw this with um, Claudette Colvin. She wasn't in
the right case. We needed Rosa Parks, you know, so we don't we
can't exactly, exactly and even if you if you want to go back to
the Scottsboro boys, which I will cover in another show.
That's when the communists really got a foothold and race
relations in America. And it was like, yeah,
it was so I can just see how it goes down. I was like, holy
crap, we this is a good one. We got video. We got nine minutes.
This is great. What's the guy's name Charmin? How do you spell
it? See? Oh, no, no, no, no
show would make it show up. And this is perfect. I'm sure
they would just Jizan all over themselves for that. Oh, could
not get any better. So that I think that was an addition later
on. I doubt that that was set up. And premeditated, but it was
just kind of fell into their lap, I think.
And now this is where I get to piss the other side off. Do I
think do I think they're Shogun got justice? No, I did not.
Because when you heard how political figures were speaking
before the verdict? Yeah. That's not by the definition of
justice. That's not justice. Normally, people say we'll defer
to after the trial is over to make comments that we're saying
you we've heard it off.
We've always heard this, you know, stuff does creep in. And I
think the media they pushed it so hard right away. When we
started this very episode. You actually said you know, George
Floyd was murdered.
Yes, I've always said Jeanine Pirro judge, judge and put it
properly respect on a judge Jeanine Pirro, we shared the
same perspective. That was martyr one. Okay. That was
always my, that was always my perspective. Because the reason
why I say this, and this is from our lower order, first 40, a
lifetime movies, law movies, legal education.
Really, it's as good as any jury in America has had.
Well, like, they say perception is reality. And if I'm looking
at it through the lens of how TV has told me how these cases are
supposed to go, premeditation can be simple as man come home,
find his wife in bed with her lover. If he pulls out his gun
shoots bow from dead. That's not murder, right? But if he goes
downstairs, goes to the car, smoke a cigarette, come back up,
kills them. Let's pretend it makes it premeditated murder.
Yeah.
Well, he had some meditation.
Time, right?
What I'm saying is so by the judges perspective, he had nine
minutes to decide. I don't want to do this anymore.
Right, right, right.
I'm not going off the imagery with his hand in his pocket and
doing the Colin Kaepernick meal. See, that's another step. Like
all of this is all of this. Man is a it's a major spell. It's a
major spell cast on the world, not just America, the world
because you had riots. I said, Yes. I said riots all around the
world burning all around the world. In the name of you know,
justice, in the name of George Floyd even all around the world
in a way. In Holland. They had slides now. It was never about
George floor. Okay. What I'm saying it was never about George
floor George floor was just we're gonna get to what George
floor was it was that we have to do this and we got to push for
justice. And even when we got justice, we can't stop there. We
got to keep continuing on for justice. Right. It's like wait,
we didn't even get justice. You know, I mean, like, and then
We're gonna keep pushing for it, but we should be celebrating it
is like, it's a complete mind screw. It's a complete mind
screw. So what I'm going now is, I don't think, because I, I have
to put myself in this, if I'm on the hot seat and I'm on trial, I
don't want political figures speaking about oh my by my case.
So if I think anything of that for anybody else, no matter what
I may feel about that person, they they deserve a fair day in
court and they deserve the right to, you know, for a political
muscle not to be leaned on their case. Because if I think
differently, that makes me a hypocrite. And what we do on
this show was pointing out hypocrisy.
For sure,
it's one of our strong suits. So I'm gonna go to talk costs, and
I'm gonna lean on Tucker for this one, and Tucker one.
So there was a political context around this trial politics
shouldn't have any effect on any trial. Again, that's
antithetical to what justice is, but they did intrude at every
level of this case. We'll tell you how. After the verdict, Joe
Biden declared that systemic racism is a stain on this
country. So
the jury in Minnesota, found former Minneapolis police
officer Derrick Chauvin guilty on all counts in the murder, of
George Floyd, last name. It was a murder in the full light of
day, and then rip the blinders off. For the whole world to see
the systemic racism, the Vice President has referred to their
systemic racism as a stain on our nation's soul, the knee on
the neck of justice for black Americans. Enough, enough of
this senseless killings. Today, today's verdict is a step
forward.
systemic racism, a term that neither Joe Biden nor anyone
else who uses that has ever defined with any precision
whatsoever, but more striking is Biden's posture. You'd think
you'd be excited by this just this morning, as the jury was
still deliberating. The president united states said he
was praying for a guilty verdict.
I'm praying the verdict is the right verdict. Overwhelming in
my view,
I wouldn't say that.
Jewelry was the question. Now, hear me say that.
Yeah, President Biden's own little cherry on top of the
spell there.
And it's the reason why they had to do this because I think
everybody or the majority of America was on Well, if he gets
found guilty, nobody's going to cry for this guy. A very small
population is going to cry for this guy, because he's like, I
mean, like, some people really feel that he should have been
found guilty. Other people is like, well, just to get things.
It's kind of like the vaccine is to get things back to normal.
We need him guilties. Well, I mean, everywhere This is people
were saying this, I mean, even Regina King, the opening of the
Oscars, she said, Well, I'm glad that we got a guilty verdict
otherwise would have had to change these pumps for
marching boots. Well, that's the thing that they had the
manufactured outrage, because there was if they wouldn't just
let it play it out and not say anything, it would have been
he's found guilty, people would have been satisfied, and it
would have been no more than in marketing, I believe. Yeah. What
I believe in my perspective is they tamper with the case. So
dinner will be appeal. And you have a part two?
Yes. Well, yes. And that would be maxine waters.
Yes. So I'm gonna say the whole everybody they were out here
saying,
Okay, hold on a second. Because this is a good point. Because I
the the general parlance was, well, the judge made a big deal.
And it was televised, and that's always important. It's always
important with the media shows, it was televised. The judge
saying, Well, you know, it looks like on appeal, you've got
grounds for dismissal because of Congresswoman Maxine Waters
statements. And, and, and the narrative on the right, I think
was mainly Yeah, you know, it's like, the jury just just just
gave it to him because he's going to get off on appeal. But
really, certainly from the mainstream media. I can't speak
on behalf of the judge, but the media is corrupt. They probably
set that up to get have a one two punch.
Is that every girl every great fight. You gotta have a trilogy.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
This is this is why because if they if nobody would have said
anything, it would have just been Yep, go ahead and lock them
up. You know, it'll be a story over any, you know, put this out
in the atmosphere, but you know how it ends. He gets the
dominance treatment and sale or are the Epstein treatment? Yeah.
And it's just, it's over. But it's like, No, no, no, no, we
got to keep this thing going, we got to give gas. And one reason
you got you got 45 missing your race sector. Your News is you're
saying you have a huge void, and they only
know and they only have about, you know, less than two years to
do something.
Yes. So they have to they have to be foot on the pedal to the
metal arm. So I guess we stopped off at Tucker one. Let's go
ahead and go into Tucker to
what was the last time a sitting president weighed in on a jury
decision before it was made? Answer, never. What else was
asked about this just a few hours later and pretended that
Joe Biden hadn't actually said, what he actually said.
You're not able to clarify
what is overwhelming the evidence, a case presented by
the prosecution?
We're not going to get ahead of the outcome. I expect when there
is a verdict. He will have more to say the President has
talked about the importance of an independent
judiciary, why is it appropriate for him to weigh in on the
verdict, even though the jury?
I wouldn't think I don't think he would see it as weighing in
on the verdict. He was conveying what many people are feeling
across the country?
Yeah, he's just conveying what many people are feeling he
wasn't weighing in as the single most powerful man in the world
on a jury verdict that hadn't been reached yet. He didn't say
what you saw him say,
just as an FYI. First, I know this is the third three rounds,
but Chauvin sentencing date set for June 1. And then after that,
then we can go for appeal. So maybe we got a little sentencing
fund to have first
if though if the wave is like, yeah, the HA, yeah. The Pro
George Floyd crowd is on the high right now. And then the
center scene is gonna be the kick in the mat. You know, just
like the bottom john case. We seen this before, where the cop
got convicted. But when they came back with a sentence, it
was like 10 years,
right.
And then the double whammy is gonna be he's gonna come around
on appeal. He'll, yeah.
Shoot,
I mean, I don't I don't see. I hope it all play out. Like I
think it's gonna play out. But then he loses appeal. And then
he goes in and gets Epstein treatment. And it's like, okay,
everything's wrapped up, you know, right. Good to go. And I
don't want to put that out in the ether. But we've seen this
play out.
I've seen it. Yeah, to just call them the trend to trend.
That's all we're doing. And then they would they way they
Gaslight people, they knew what they were doing. Joe comes out
says it. And then she goes like he didn't say that. And it's
like, wait, I just heard what I heard. I'm speaking from not
from my perspective, I'm speaking from the Pro. shoving
side to say we heard what we heard her saying she's like him
say that. Yeah, so it's constant gaslighting to bring the
temperature up on that side.
So this show is not really deconstructing anything. This
shows a warning, this show is this show is going to tell you
what's coming. It's a prediction.
And I hope I'm wrong. Yeah, I'm hope I'm wrong. But I understand
how these things play out. I mean, I've seen it and what I
mean by
it, and you've tracted, my brother.
Well, I've seen it all my adult life. And what I'm saying even a
young adult, you got to remember in 95, I was 15 years old,
starting with and then Rodney King, I was saying of conscious
age, to see how that played out. So I see how these things
playing out. But the only thing is the juice is on the other
side now, but it's still gonna be the same outcome where nobody
satisfied with the outcome. And it just breeds more contention
for each side. Because how does he see this ending? Once I pops
off the other side, mops him up, and then that side gets mocked
up? Yeah.
Well, that's isn't that Isn't that how you want the script to
always play out? If you want to? Keep it
convenient? Yeah. Which I think like you said, they tried to
keep this thing going to the midterms. Yeah. You know, so
they can motivate you. I mean, I didn't I was not Pooh poohing
with the effect on the outcome of the election. What I'm saying
is that election decided which way this world allegedly is
going to go?
No. midterm is going to there has to be a slaughter somewhere
in the midterm, whether it's the actual voting itself or
something beforehand, for sure. Desperate, these people are
desperate. They're desperate to get something kicking, distract
at all costs,
make this draft, wah wah executive order at the executive
order get signed and are saying everybody gets put into boot.
Yeah. And then I want to make one more thing. Tucker said it.
He hasn't. Nobody has clearly defined systemic racism, where
you haven't heard our podcast.
And we know your producers listened to us anyway. So you
might as well go back to what episode early early first 10?
Maybe we just yeah, firsthand,
we laid it out there, which we say by the definition from
nearly Fuller, white supremacy is a one world government. And
the hard thing about it is kind of hard to be a truth. And
believe in is that there's a globalist system and not
believe, you know, but that's what we cover with the mega mega
Marco. Yeah, it's like it's not about color. It's about it's a
certain group of people that have power over everybody to see
you. And as we always say, it starts with us. It only starts
with,
oh, yeah, I'm well aware of. Well,
now I have a sample how these things normally are handled when
a trial is pending. I have Obama speaking on Trayvon? Well,
I'm the head of the executive branch, and the Attorney General
reports to me, so I've got to be careful about my statements to
make sure that we're not impairing any investigation
that's taking place right now,
however.
But obviously, this is a tragedy. I can only imagine what
these parents are going through. And when I think about this boy,
I think about my own kids. And I think every parent in America
should be able to understand why it is absolutely imperative that
we investigate every aspect of this, and that everybody pulls
together federal, state and local to figure out exactly how
this tragedy happened. But my main message is, is to the
parents of Trayvon Martin. You know, if I had a son, he'd look
like Trayvon. And I think they are right to expect that all of
us as Americans are going to take this with the seriousness
that it deserves and that we're going to get to the bottom of
exactly what happened.
Was this not to the speech that the President did at the time
with a tear in his eye?
No, that was that was no I don't think he Crawford Trayvon Sandy
Hook Sandy Hook, no black kids don't get tears coming.
Not from President Obama. No, no.
Wish that no. And I said that I noticed that tongue in cheek,
but that was a sentiment, like, Oh, you can cry for them?
I bet it was a sentiment. Sure.
And in this show, I'm gonna expose a lot of how this has
felt is come. You know, it's because what that reason why I'm
not is not for the emotional Fed is for when you see something,
you process it and it's like, okay, that's how you want me to
feel. Okay, it's that initial hit. It's like, wait, why did
you want me to feel like that? There wasn't.
There was another funny thing about about this particular
case, as I was looking at, from my perspective is before we met,
was the fact that george Zimmerman, and this immediate
assumption as to him being white, and when he turned out to
be Hispanic, it became a little more
problem. He was white. Yeah, no, no, I know what you're saying.
But yeah, exactly. But that was thrown. That's the narrative. We
can't let the facts get in the way over there. Oh, no, no, no.
Okay. So while I was in that example of a heinous brown on
black crime, because that's not a fight, they're pushing on the
black or Asian that we see
that a thing, man, it's not a brown on black is not a thing.
It's not a thing. Black on Asian, that's a thing. We all
know this. And we highlighted
that how long ago on the first pandemic show we had because I
just got to point this out that I'm What is her name? Your
favorite lady from XM Radio.
Not Valerie. Karen Hunter,
Karen Hunter. Miller, she just came out with that weird
statement about the kung fu and it was, you know, completely
racist. And we had that whole talking point come up. Yeah,
sure. And then now we see it in effect. What you're saying and
I'm just gonna we're gonna cover this on a nutshell, but what
you're starting to see is Asian people start being grafted into
whiteness. Yes, these like the Irish and
they they are considered white adjacent. As Yeah,
but anyway, that's how you start out as the JV team. Yeah.
No agenda. We got tons of we got tons of I call them the amps,
the Asian millennial producers. And they're telling me all this
stuff's Oh, yeah, no, not we're white adjacent. And this sick of
it, man, they think it's all bull crap
that they are being abused. Made the victim. Yeah, I mean, you
have to be the victim. It's like, okay, now we can put you
in the group. But we don't want to digress too much. But I just
want to lay that out because we did pointed out way ahead of
time. Now we got to go back. I believe we're on Tucker Three.
Yeah, he was just conveying what many people are feeling he
wasn't weighing in as the single most powerful man in the world
on a jury verdict that hadn't been reached yet. You didn't say
what you saw him say. But that sounds like a familiar defense.
It's exactly what maxine waters and her defenders throughout
Washington are using today, after waters threatened the jury
with violence. If it didn't find a guilty verdict.
You've got to fight for justice.
I am very hopeful
that we're going to get that guilty, guilty guilty.
As far as I'm concerned, as well.
And we've got to get more active, we've got to get more
confrontational. We've got to make sure that they know that we
need
so there's a reason police were all over the streets and cities
across the country lesson is that the threat of violence, and
Maxine Waters threatened violence before the jury have
even begun to consider the facts of the case. That's so far over
the line that we read. Some Democrats were shocked by it,
and yet no one condemned it. That includes the president
includes the most powerful people in the Democratic Party,
the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, Steny, Hoyer of
Maryland, they came out in support of maxine waters.
Yeah, it was truly bizarre.
And no, I mean, I suspect the reason why I said it is Maxine
Waters is the perfect pawn. Because you send her out, she
says incendiary things. And then when she gets attacked by a
little black lady.
She's out there saying, Oh, we got to be persistent. And no,
I'm keep applying pressure. It's like, Huh. I remember somebody
else using language that it was not a scenario, and she got all
bent out of shape over Oh, you mean
President Trump?
Yeah, January 6, if you want to use the same standard, and
that's what you have to do, if you want to be actually talking
about real justice. I'm not this worship they have going on but
actual, you know what, this is the standard. And we're gonna
judge people fairly by that standard. So it's like, if you
judged 45 savage that way. Now, I'm going to use that standard
towards you, and see how it pans out pen. If it is then you're
doing your inciting riots and everything else you accuse him
of, I'm gonna stand by your own standard. And if you don't want
to believe me, my perspective or her standard, that's gonna get
her in her own words. And the question for you. Yes, please.
You know, and we'll probably get to the $27 million that the city
paid the Shogun family, by the George Floyd's family, which I
think was also, you know, very corrupting, or maybe
intimidating or influencing any potential jury pool at the time.
Huh.
Do you feel that this has become for some families? Just like
he's gonna sound horrible. me saying it, but like a business
model? Yeah.
I mean, not when they're not the business model. where they are,
are. Have you or your family been killed by cops? If so, call
you saying okay.
That's what I meant. Yeah.
Call Kronk. Crew,
crew. And they come in and they say, you know what, and it's all
played out and crumbs like you see that crowd outside? Yeah.
You see that crowd outside.
And what's really sad is knowing a little bit about celebrity
being being a celebrity being in the public eye, Paul, man, it
takes a lot of strength not to come to that. And you start you
will believe anything. When a crowd is chanting your name and
when they're loving you and you're feeling that and that
that that vibe is going back and forth. you'll believe anything
anyone tells you.
It's pressure, but also suppress pressure release valve. Because
when the family gets the money, it's like, okay, here family,
here's your script. They go out we forgive everybody. We just
want common peace. And we don't want no problems. Okay? We could
take the pressure off the riots, you know, you let the pressure
out. And it's like, you know what? We didn't get what we
wanted. And you know, he can turn up the heat again. And the
pressure goes right back up. And but they don't want to really,
they don't want no smoke. No, they don't want to really want I
mean, they don't want it. Because if you listen to Maxine
Waters, she's like, oh, where do you believe is murder one or
not? Why don't you come out like the judge Jeanine and come full
throated with like, this was murder one, right? He was a
witness and bullcrap that we and and get murdered. But it's like
they have to be very balanced by if you think it's murder war,
and I kind of think it was but if you give us what we want,
then we will tell them to stand down. And that's another thing.
The fact that nothing happened at this verdict. Nothing that
tells you somebody had their hand on the on the go button.
Yeah. This is not organic, cuz you don't or you don't control
organic like that.
Wow. Okay,
not a window was busted. Nothing. It was just like,
Alright, we won. Yay. You know, it's like, maybe you bring out
the fourth wave. Always. How about that four way? Yeah.
That's the cover. That's that. That's the that's the clean man.
That's the you know, that's the bag man. Those are the happy
dancing protesters like Yeah, we did he you know, yeah. Right.
goon Stand back. But it means they have that kind of control
over that, that tells you that this is this is scripted, and it
not in the form of the from the beginning. I'm talking about
from the point it happened. Own? I'm not gonna get into that. I'm
not I'm not saying that. It could have been it could have
been, but I like to stay with the facts.
We already established once, once you had the perfect
scenario, it was just fitting it into the plan. Mm hmm.
So now we're going to go and listen to maxine waters in her
own words. Do we already hear that? And we
know we didn't.
And last
night I read something yesterday and it really struck me in his
stayed with me written by a black person who said we are not
asking you to shoot them like you shoot us. We are asking you
to not shoot us like you don't shoot them. You certainly been
in Congress 30 years seen a lot? What are your thoughts on the
hypocrisy and double standard that so many are talking about
in our society, as far as if the rioters yesterday had been
black, how the outcome most likely would have been much
different?
Well, I tweeted, something similar to that. And I basically
tweeted, if this had been Black Lives Matter, you know, acting
in the way that the oathkeepers and the proud boys and the white
supremacist had some capital, what do you think would have
happened? Do you think, you know, in essence, they would
have gotten away with it. And, you know, I got the kinds of
responses where, you know, everyone was saying, of course,
we know, they said it in so many ways, blood would be all over
the place. They would be killed, they would be shocked. Everybody
believes and knows that blacks are treated differently, even
when they are peacefully protesting. And so we also know
that, you know, whites feel more comfortable in their protests
that they will not be shot and killed.
See the double standard? hypocrisy so think as she was
speaking on hypocrisy,
brazenly? I'm gonna be very hypocritical about hypocrisy for
a moment.
Let's get back to Tucker and Tucker for
that so far over the line that we read. Some Democrats were
shocked by it, and yet no one condemned it. That includes the
president includes the most powerful people in the
Democratic Party, the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, Steny,
Hoyer of Maryland, they came out in support of maxine waters. And
then state media, literally state media Public Broadcasting
System came out today with an explanation at the White House
press briefing, watch this propagandist explain what Maxine
Waters really meant.
Representative waters, as he said, clarified, she said, my
actual words don't matter. I wonder why the white house isn't
also coming to the defense of representative waters, given the
fact that she's now facing an onslaught of attacks, especially
by what say Republicans. I wonder why the white house isn't
saying we back what she said about being confrontational. She
was obviously not threatening violence. There are civil rights
leaders. They're saying that's what contract that's what civil
rights is to be confrontational to
be active. Well, she could. She also clarified her own remarks.
imation I think that's the most powerful piece to point to.
Lady works for you. She literally worked for public
Television. And there she is ardently flacking for lunatic
Maxine Waters at the White House press briefing. Well, it's all
normal. Don't worry, it's always been this way. It hasn't always
been this way.
Yes, your Miche there's nothing like a good yummies clip
and wait for maxine waters to say her words don't matter. When
the whole time of my reclaiming my
time,
all about saying what I say matters. Now all of a sudden, it
doesn't matter. But she was sent out there, hold on
my time. My time reclaiming my time.
So she was sent out there to be to receive that be the target.
Because I almost say these crate and we saying these things that
normally no politician would say pre verdict, right? And then
when when the heat comes from me, and of course, this is the
this is the problem. The other side. They're so predictable.
You can almost right? It's like you're going to hear center. And
you know, what about isms. And that kind of thing is when you
become so predictable, then your opponents can kind of pull you
into where they want you to go. And that's exactly what
happened. Um, so I guess we can going to wrap up with Tucker
with Tucker five. And our leaders haven't always talked.
Like they're seized by religious fervor. He
was the Speaker of the House today, thanking George Floyd
because he died in order to make the Democratic Party more
powerful. For his sacrifice.
She said, watch this. Thank you, George Floyd,
for sacrificing your life for justice because of you. And
because of 1000s, millions of people around the world who came
out for justice, your name will always be synonymous with
justice, unless we can change the wall. This will be an
episode, we change the wall, we're going down a different
path altogether.
So the guy dies on the sidewalk. And here this lady comes out and
politicizes It's so completely that he becomes sort of a
Democratic Party saying thank you for your sacrifice is
grotesque. It's a cult. Obviously.
It was bizarre.
It is a call as a cult. Yeah,
it was. It was just bizarre.
With three justices. Your sacrifice, you were sacrificed
for justice, your justice for justice. And I know I'm saying
about once you to get in your mind what their justice is
another schedule. Because and I'm gonna re reiterate my point.
We nobody got justice.
Yeah. He said the republican schedule is liberty and freedom,
and for Democrats has always been justice.
Yes.
Justice. And so now we got to go back to show 48 because we lay
out black man being the sacrificial lamb for other
parties to come out. And this dovetails where what when we
talked about the Asian aspect as well, when one group wants to
move up. They have to sacrifice black people, specifically black
man, and its colors for show 48 sacrifice one. So this lecture
focuses on the ritual sacrifice of black men in particular, and
as an instrument for creating a cohesive and unified body of
people called White. So in this development of the screen of
racial contempt that I'm calling the first stage of sacrifice.
Well, it certainly includes the murder of African Americans. It
was, it was the murder of their humanity, in the eyes of
European Americans that was sacrificed in the development of
white identity. More than just debasement. It was the symbolic
murder of their identities offered up in order to engender
another identity. So Rene Girard writes, the purpose of sacrifice
is to restore the harmony to community to reinforce the
social fabric, and that the common denominator that exists
between behind all sacrifice is internal violence. And the
dissensions, the rivalries, the jealousies, and the corals of
the community, by design are suppressed by sacrifice.
You know, I haven't been talking to many people about the C word
about the cult. But man, I've been telling more and more
people not specifically regarding this, but regarding a
lot of different things, and I said it's a spell. And, and
whereas I think, maybe probably pre pre Corona. People would
have looked at me like you're out of your mind, but I don't
Don't even get that anymore. Just get a Yeah, yeah, it is
kind of a spell, isn't it?
So let me define how I define witchcraft. witchcraft is not
but control. Okay? When you want control over somebody else, like
cuz that's what a spell is right? You might think one
thing, but I want you to think another thing God casts a spell
on you and make you go the opposite way, the way I want you
to go. So let's not get into the home, not you. But I don't want
people in mind to drift off into cauldrons and new eyes and that
kind of thing.
That's a different show.
does keep it very simple. It's just that when somebody wants to
control your throat, thoughts, Mind Control, you know, what do
they do they cast a spell on you. And the way and if you
heard in this clip dehumanization, the democrats
dehumanised George Floyd, thank you, George, thank you for being
a sacrificial lamb so we can bring about more peace and
justice and, you know, nothing for really for black men. Not
that I mean, everybody else is gonna come up out, as I always
say, we open the door, everybody else goes right hand.
That's right.
And as you saying, what legislation how you seen, not
for black men, nothing to protect? You know, I'm
specifically if you want to say that to being attacked. That's
what the democrats are saying. But then there's nothing that
changed my life. But they know how to pick a victim.
Yes. And that's the genius of it then. And they got they got one
handed to them beautiful.
And the one that they chose to highlight. He wasn't squeaky
clean. So now with the strike, if he would have been a Sunday
school teacher, then the same way, there's nobody who had an
argument. He said, it's not that's why they did not pick
cases like that.
Yeah. Because then we can't play out the whole scenario with
three rounds of strife and violence and unrest.
Yes, which all movies have that thing, right, you think is one
way and it comes back the other way, and then it comes back that
night, the terms, I think what they call them, you have the
terms in the script. So I'm speaking of picking the victim,
let's go and get to number 19.
So the system doesn't want us to go too far. So it needs to find
a way to blow off steam through the process. They don't want to
get rid of that intra community violence, but they just want to
deflect it before it reaches the doors of the elites. So to
deflect the violence that ultimately arises out of the
competition, there needs to be a ritual victim, which is the
third group. Someone who is marginal within the community
who does not represent a real threat of reprisal, who can
attack the system back. The dangers in the society are
projected onto that victim.
Wow, man, I got to go back and listen to all of Episode 48.
Now, so good, that's a great clip.
And that's what they've been doing. But now this next clip is
kind of long clip was two minutes. We try to keep it at
130. But I have to let this play all the way out. So it's fine
for Nancy Pelosi to go out and say Jordan for it was a
sacrifice. But when a black man Neo tried to say this a year
prior to when it happened actually at his funeral. This is
the response that he got.
Okay guys, so keep this the third and final memorial for
George Floyd. The 46 year old black man killed at the hands of
Minnesota police on May 25 was held at the fountain of Christ
Church in Houston on Tuesday, June 9 neo who was sending to
service and performed a song is now facing criticism after
referring to Floyd as a sacrifice,
man change the world. Change the world for the better. So I just
want to personally thank George Floyd for his sacrifice. So that
so that my kids can be I later on I appreciate I appreciate the
sacrifice Barbara that genuinely do.
Following his speech, Neil got visibly emotional when he sang
boys to men's 1991 hit so hard to say goodbye to yesterday in
honor of the 46 year old Floyd. Even though Twitter immediately
pounced on Neo for a seemingly insensitive remarks. Many people
couldn't believe he would say such a thing while others just
import celebrities to keep their mouth shut. Here are some of the
reactions everyone when Neo said George Ford's murder was a
sacrifice Neo some of these so called celebrities really need
to reread their tweets before they hit that tweet button
because they assume they're tweeting something profound.
They just wind up making an themselves Neo out of all the
things to say you say that the Neo just call the murder of
George Floyd a sacrifice Neo just named George Ford for his
sacrifice so his kids can be saved. Some of those celebrities
really need to be quiet because whoo Chow me after checking to
see why Neo is trending. Do y'all not know we don't allow
you to act up in the black church who put Neo in the pulpit
who was this pic is real real life in the black church every
time I see a celebrity trend and I just know they said some dumb
Neo really Neo was so choked up while singing. He stopped
several times to get through it man Please Neo said I'd like to
thank George Ford for his sacrifice. Yep, you read right
and Neo which Oh ignorant. I just saw a clip of Neo saying he
likes to thank George for for his sacrifice what sacrifice Neo
George Ford was murdered. He didn't give his life to anyone
his life was taken from everyone. Why are celebrities
even talking? sacrifice was bloody murder, Nia should have
just kept quiet. black male celebrities have been nothing
but an embarrassment this past few days, nothing good coming
out of their mouth.
So the assertion here is he can't be sacrificed for black
men. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it needs to be for the
cause. Not for not for the black men.
We can't even weaponize our own.
What's wrong with you?
Ain't that crazy? wrong with you? Come on, Nancy Pelosi, oh,
rich, white lady and go out here and say thanks. And the way she
said she wouldn't see.
Thanks, George.
Wow. To keep from
crying because people think we're making this up. If, if you
can talk to anybody before they start, listen to the show. They
probably thought black man were whiners. But it's like, No,
nobody cares about us, because everybody uses us
on purpose. And congratulations, that sequence of clips that you
set up perfectly to roll into that one. Yeah, we're gonna make
a podcast out of you yet Mo.
was good.
It was really, really good. Great clip.
Alright, so now we have MSNBC and this is a I forget her name,
but she's speaking on a joy read show. And let's see how they
speak on George Floyd as a sacrifice.
This is our next blood sacrifice is still asking people to
recognize our humanity. We saw this in the 60s, we saw this in
the 80s. We're seeing it now. But if you look at the power
structure, this is still black and brown people asking for
equality. This is still white NFL owners allowing black
players to kneel This is still white NASCAR owners, allowing
black players to wear black lives matter. This is still
white corporate power brokers at Starbucks, allowing their
employees to say Black Lives Matter. So for me, I'm still
pretty angry about it. We're still in a space where we're
asking a television landscape to please allow us to speak
truthfully, please don't sideline us, please give us a
platform to speak. I think in order for this country to have a
true reconciliation and a true recognition of where we are and
stop buying into a false narrative about who America is.
We have to reimagine America Previously, we could only see
what was possible and even that seemed out of reach. In this
moment, we are seeing the impossible and power concedes
nothing. So this is a moment for we for us to take, take
ourselves and galvanize this movement and grab power. So when
I see the power structure start to shift. We're we're not asking
permission to live to breed. But when I asked him to hold on to
our lives and to be allowed to pursue our livelihood, then I
would describe that as a seismic power shift.
We we Yeah, we we in and it's certainly not black men, black
women. And white women,
women of color women in general. And minorities. I mean that, you
know, maybe maybe black men have to have to take a page out of
the old women's playbook, Mr. satra thing was that her name?
And just say, okay, we're withholding all sex.
That may work. Which you know what? No, and I'm not saying
that tongue in cheek. But that's not we're not withholding sex.
We're withholding and how you open up a can of worms. But I'm
not gonna address it. There's an undertone going on now that I'm
and I brought his name up before Academy Samuels that he says
women control the access to sex men control the access to
relationships. So it's like, yeah, we'll date you, but we
won't marry you. So that is a real phenomenon is going on
right now. And that's all over on the gender war front. We wish
we wish, you know, we cover the front here of the of the World
War, you know, now we're on the race front, but we always go
back, you know, the generational and, and the gender front as
well. So that is being fought over there. It's funny that you
said that, but that is a sponsor, but that is
we have a lot more work to do. Is that not me? Is that being
recognized by black women? Oh, hell
yeah. Are they? Yeah,
he has five to six women call on and every one of his shows
showing that frustration if I will date you but we won't marry
into you meet our and what I'm saying. We're not talking about
all women here. We're talking about the strollers. You know,
the people like the last Speaker that they want to pick and
choose when they want to be feminist or whatever it is,
like, they can take their black off and own. And it's like
normal woman, you know, and I'm all for all women, you know, and
it's like, either you're with us or you're not. And like, and I
always say that those kinds of women and know these kind of
people in general that use black lives are the minority, but that
allow minority. So it sounds like everybody is saying this,
but they but what they're given is a bullhorn by the mainstream
media that make you think all black people are saying this,
when it's only a few talking heads that and it's funny that
she was saying that, you know, the media won't given us
permission. You know, you had to clear every word you said with
msnbc before you got to Mexico?
Absolutely. You better believe that you had to pre interviews
the whole nine,
man, not that boy. But that's what I'm saying. They can use
sacrifice word, Nancy Pelosi can use sacrifice word, but when Neo
says And then he said Georgia, Florence gave a sacrifice for
his children, not just this, but you know, so other black kids
won't be killed. So that was a that was the media dragon Neo
for that as well, or just this one particular YouTuber,
whatever, you know, it was all over. It was well, that but you
know, the media is led by social media. So whatever this,
whatever the narrative is on social media, the media runs
with that. I mean, they don't really have any creativity. And
you know what? People should appreciate that mean, you could
come here and have this honest conversation. We're in a vacuum.
You know, we don't really care what the outside thinks. But we
had to have these conversations. And that's really the bedrock of
the Mofaz Adam Curry podcast. So I wouldn't want to say that
it is and, and we take, we take great, great example and great
words, it really is our path to getting here.
The white man and the black man have to be able to sit down at
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Alright, so we heard Tucker Carlson say that their cult, I
agree that they're a cult. Now we have Rosemount gallon.
Well, as some of you know, as some of you don't know, if
you've heard my name or read anything on me in the media, I
grew up in a cult. And it was a very famous cult called children
of God, and it gave me a superpower. It gave me the
ability to see the control and the propaganda machine,
especially in the US for what it is and how it harms people. And
how the left can harm people just as much as the right if
they go very, very deep into it. and ignore all other aspects of
kind of reality in a way and, and that you're serving a master
that might not be serving you and I always say I come in
peace. I am not here to make people feel bad about their
political choices. But I am here to say that you might be in a
cult too, if you don't know the signs. And I do believe
democrats most especially, are in a deep cult that they really
don't know about and aren't really aware of. And I leave the
republicans alone more because I do respect people more that are
like, this is what we are, this is what we're about. This is
what we're against. Whereas I find that the democrats are
really pretty much almost against all the same things.
They're against changing the world for the better, and
they're for keeping a system in place. That is for so few people
and benefits. So few, but they masquerade as the as the
helpers.
I'd forgotten all about that. Yeah, it's not really discussed
that often. But I'd forgotten all about her growing up in a
cult. It's
so true. And she says she has a superpower. So I mean, we always
refer to this as a matter expert. Yes, we break
for superpowers.
Right. Still waiting on mind. But yes, you have superpowers.
You just don't know that. Well. Yeah, but you got it. Yeah.
So but Rose McGowan is not a star. Severe, even jellicle.
starch. Conservative No. And for her to cut you even she has some
hesitations? Like what if you go deep down and so she wasn't even
comfortable saying it. But then she came out and said it that
they're called. Yeah. Which I mean, I don't say that lightly.
Because when you hear people say that they're whatever, whatever
the divide is, my family won't deal with me. Because I'm on the
other side of the conflict. That's scary talk. And unless
that is like telltale signs of just speaking back just my my
experiences. Will you have a family member like if you want
to church per se, and if you want to join that church with
them as I can't be around New Haven's? You know, I know are
you sinners here? That kind of thing. That's real cultural. And
I see this symbolist here. Well, hopefully
she's going to tell us how to identify this.
Well, let's go on to 24
I'm embracing in my life right now really just almost healing
in a way, not just for me, but for so many others. You know,
during the me to media period, it was just triggers for so many
women and men alike. You know, everybody really and it was a
painful period for very many people. As as it was for me.
Sure they know and my persecution. I know Wait,
awakening from being a democrat was so much about what I do and
what I say now and so much about realizing how hardcore of a cult
it is, you know, it's interesting to women and the
people that says it's going to help them Why haven't they
achieved anything? Cool. Stop
asking these these awful questions. Rose?
Well, I've been asking the same thing for 62 episodes. I mean,
where the tangible Yeah,
there you go. tangibles
that but that's what she's asking for know what you see.
And she used the word awakening. And we see these cycles
throughout history called great awakenings. I think we're piling
on our fifth one right now, where people are waking up from
the slumber that the news puts you in, in the spell that puts
you under to say, you know, don't wait, wait. I want to
trust my eyes, not what I'm being told. And it's very
divisive. But I just want I think we're in the midst of
another great away that was her words, not my words. Yeah,
I would I would even call it a Renaissance. You know, and so I
mean, we're gonna come out of this good thing. So we're gonna
come out and have you come out of a renaissance with a lot of
great things, including great art.
Well, we're going to go back to real facts, real justice written
out these narratives that people mean when they when they say
these words, but actually, let's put it on the table. Let's weigh
it up, you know, and figure out where what it is and what it
isn't not what we were told that what it is what it isn't. So I'm
pursuing that and about a coat. We got to go back to show number
32 because we talked about this before this phenomenon, and this
was his technology controlling your mind.
I can tell you as a mental health professional, someone who
has been helping people get out of cults and mind control and
brainwashing situations before the years, constantly, people
are confused. What is it called? What is mind control? What is
brainwashing? Oh, my, my boss, brainwashes me, oh, advertising,
brainwashes me, the government brainwashes me etc. But what I'm
here to say is actually, I want to present a model for you to
think about a spectrum from healthy to unhealthy influence,
healthy influence. There's informed consent. You know, what
you're getting involved with, you know, about the person,
there's choice. On the destructive side, there's
deception. There's manipulation. On the healthy side, it respects
your freewill. it respects your conscience, where the unhealthy
side is using guilt, manipulation, fear,
manipulation, and wanting you to become a trance, stout, obedient
slaves. And we have on this continuum, some themes. Again,
this is not a binary of all or nothing. This is a spectrum. And
my call to action is your minds are precious. And only you
should control your mind.
Oh, man. That's the I saw
a bumper sticker. Yeah, for sure. Who was this again? Oh, I
forget who that was.
That was Steven Hassan. Steven Hassan. From a TED talk. I
believe we're
seeking. Yes, yes. I think you're right.
So they're saying it and it's this thing where something's
gonna kill you outside? What go outside protests. Be don't
respect, social distancing. But now that's over now go back in
your house because something's gonna kill you outside. And
people are just like, okay,
yeah, that's that really truly when when it was the it wasn't
just black lives matter. It was the protest. I think it was in
Brooklyn or in another borough in New York. And it was the
LGBTQ Black Lives Matter concert when people were packed.
Shoulder to shoulder. I mean, that was clearly the moment when
everyone could know that not just the Coronavirus, lock downs
and fearmongering. But also this whole black lives matter that
they were both bullcrap. And it's it was months ago now, I
mean was a year ago, almost.
And this is fascinating that on the flip side of that, if
somebody didn't wear that mask, and the cop roughed him up,
because the wall was saying he had he deserved it, yeah.
Yeah, you know, you're in a cult when you don't see through that.
And that's a scary I mean, cuz I'm on the outside. And when you
talk to people that you've known for years, and you try to point
it out to them in their reaction, it's like, wow, like,
and I think some I said in the note note previously, that they
just regurgitate talking points from me, like verbatim, it's
over that, but I can't call it anything else. I wish I could
call it something else. But
when I, when I was a kid, when I was a kid, the way you would
learn a language was with tapes, like a berlitz tape, and you had
it on your Walkman. And you had your your headphones on you were
you were repeating like a mantra, you were repeating
whatever the the instructor was saying on the tape, and you
would learn the language. I'm sure it's still done that way to
a degree, but it was very specifically, he has stuff in
your ears. You're, it's subliminal. And now with all the
noise that's going on around us. You're, you're just doing this,
you're literally learning the language, the language of woke,
and you're just repeating things in your ear, just like these
tapes. When someone says bones, you're lean, you know your
Pavlovian response, because you practice it is motion with your
lip officer. So when it's like, you know, say, say her name, say
her name, say his name, say his name, no justice, no peace.
These are monitors, that's all part of this. I'm all in on the
spell stuff. Now. That's so apart as the spell so much. It's
so obvious.
And it's not just us recognize it. Now we move on, you know,
we're on the leading edge of it. But now, it's just like,
everybody's starting to see it. And this is just me as sad in
one way. But it's just fascinating. And another way
that how well it worked. And I'll reiterate this point, and
it's kind of how I did the show on these order. I mean, it's
some method to the madness that if we're not locked in our
house, 24 seven, yeah, then I don't think the spear works as
much. But when your eyes I mean, that's what a call does. It
isolates you first and isolates you from loved ones. So,
yeah, and that isolation doesn't have to be necessarily a
physical isolation, to proximity, although six feet of
distance helps. But you can also isolate people by concealing
their faces.
That is, well what I'm talking about physical isolation,
because I think mean, you don't really feel the isolation cuz
we're married and have family. So you're not isolated. I'm
talking about the target audience of this call. Singer
people. Yes. Thank you. People may have 714 day runs with on
the way they go out and go to the grocery store, you know, and
come back home. And while they're at home, they're
constantly inundated with this with the information. Yeah, it's
scary. Scary times, man. I don't want to be a fear monger. But
I know we're all seeing it. We're all seeing it. And that
and that energy, that isolation is being converted into very
negative energy.
Mm hmm. Well, that's the only outlet. It's like, if you can go
outside if you if you do what we want you to do, right. And
that's the only way you can get out. Yeah. So now we we've
talked about mind control. Now we got to see how the mind
really works.
Now the actual process of brainwashing is somewhat
disappointingly abstract. And in concrete, there's no three step
guide to brainwashing your cult followers. The process is more
of an art and the science. So here's your scientific three
step guide to brainwashing your call followers. The first stage
is break people down, you know, get them broken. That's Rick
Ross, no relation, and he's also an expert on cults. He calls
this process coercive persuasion, since he's an
academic and doesn't have to worry about click baiting
YouTube viewers.
See you get invited to a talk or a dinner by a group of people
that you've never met before. And suddenly you're like the
center of attention, and everybody showering you with
affection and praise and trust. And this is something that a lot
of cultural do, because that's a very irresistible thing to be at
the center of somebody's attention.
making people feel special is an overwhelmingly great feeling
that traps them in. Overall, in this stage, you need to, as Rick
says, talk about everything negative in the world negative
in their life, put a lot of pressure on them to crack and
break. And then second, change them. You know, once they're in
that broken state, introduce
your ideas. So,
let me show you how this works. Here's some black people. Hey,
black people, I know you've been ignored. But here's your chance
for all the corporate America to see you. Black Lives Matter.
We're gonna give you equity. Now it's okay. Then they break you
down is you know it's that's how it works.
standard practice it's so it's it's mind control one on one.
And the thing is people say well, why don't they see the
pandering thing about flattery? Yeah, even though you notice a
lie. You like it? You like it? Yeah. Yeah. So my cousin, by the
way, you know, you put on weight?
Well, they're gonna eat it out. Right. And so that's kind of
back to my, to my business model question. You know, families
like they get all this attention and adoration and they get
caught up in it. And it's just
regardless, the shared win, because it's like, the family
won, we win. Yeah, you know, these is this is this is these
are these are symbolic victories. I mean, you have
people going out, right. Um, and saying we did it, we did it know
what? You realize you didn't get justice, right? If you say that
you might get you know,
mean, all I'm hearing is we have more work to do?
Well, that's the bread. That's the beat down. It means is this
this is like you want for a minute?
Yes, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, there'll be no celebration, we have more walked
work to do lots more work to do
my control three, as a call leader, you'll probably have
some sort of mission for your followers, whether it be
political, religious, or something else. The second stage
is where you fix it in your followers minds. And people
won't necessarily accept what you say immediately. Because if
you're a cult leader, you're probably saying something
controversial, something novel, something anti conformist along
the lines of Doom is coming. Or let's kidnap people, or hand
dryers are the work of the devil. They're loud, they're
slow. And you know what, you probably think that they're
better for the environment. But the optimistic studies say that
they're only 20%. Better, while some others say that they're not
even greener at all. Did you know that hand dryers actually
increased the bacteria on your hands by 117%? You're better off
not washing your hands at all hand dryers kill. That was just
an example.
Let me be clear, we're not just talking about Black Lives
Matter. We're talking about in one of the biggest calls is the
green, green.
Climate change climate emergency
climate change? Yeah, yeah, that is prophecy. It's there. It's
the religion, the world's gonna end in 12 years. Oh,
that's a good way to say when someone says, Oh, I didn't know
you were religious.
is a prophecy. Yeah. proof. Elder said,
I'm gonna use that from now on. Wow, I didn't know you were into
religion.
It's great. And speaking of which, though, how do they get
you here? And now we got to go to one of the band favorites.
And I'm not saying this. But I've gotten a lot of feedback on
the show I wanted to do for myself. jiofi fire trap was
delight. Well, we visited the victim mindset.
How do you stop these mindsets from becoming mind traps, no one
likes feeling trapped. Can you remember the last time you were
trapped? The problem is we have these thoughts. And our thoughts
fortunately, and unfortunately, can create feelings, feelings,
both in the here and the now. And it's not necessarily what
happens to you. But it's the messages that you give yourself
about what happens that determines your feelings. And
not only do our thoughts create all of our feelings, but the
thoughts that defeat us are almost always fraudulent or
wrong or distorted or illogical. And sometimes they can form a
cycle of mentality that becomes a trap. So how do you know how
do you know when a mindset has become a mind trap? There's a
ancient Greek philosopher named Epictetus who said this that we
are disturbed not by things, but by the view in which we take
them. We think it's the circumstances that are depicted
that are that are disturbing us, but no, it's It's our view of
them. But it's actually disturbing us.
Oh, yeah. I'm only on that. It's perception not reality. Yes.
That's why you can have some is 250 pounds six, nine hours has
almost a billion dollars. They say they they're scared to go
outside.
Yeah, and many people believe it. Oh, man. Yeah. Sad. Yeah.
Now obviously think about that you have all the resources, you
have the physical strength not to be harmed if you choose not
to be, you have the resources to put protective measures around
you. And you sell Are you either you're selling or you're buying
I don't know which one at this point. But, um, and I was
speaking about is a King James, but I told you, I told you that
we're gonna be on his head and in the fact that he didn't come
out and say he was gonna publicly support the vaccine.
That is part of the scrutiny he's receiving right now. Don't
don't don't get it twisted. Do not get it twisted. And and and
I'll say this case, the day after that, when he made that
errant tweet, just put it lightly. Um, he had to drop a
pro COVID podcast episode. Oh, really? first of its kind. It
was not sport. Yeah.
I missed that.
The more than the athlete. Yeah, podcast. Yeah. The pressure I'm
shot.
But they need that. But now we get I get now we got to go into
call leaders. And Bob Woodson tried to warn us about cult
leaders. First of all, you cannot generalize about the
black community more any other people, we are not monolithic.
We have different in education difference in income. And when
it's convenient, we generalize the black community. And we use
the demographics of those who are living in the most charged
troubling situations we use the demographics of the of the
incarceration, of low income, housing, we use that demographic
information to make a case that All Blacks are suffering, okay.
And then when the money arise, it goes not to the people
suffering the problem. But those who are providing service for
instance, in the last 50 years, the government's are $22
trillion of programs to aid the poor 70 cents of all those
dollar go not to the poor, but those who serve for people they
ask not which problems are solvable, which ones are
fundable. Then you have black elected officials, many of them
are veterans of the civil rights movement, who then came into
political office, they were the ones who were dispensing those
funds. And listen to this, two out of 10 whites with college
degrees works for government, six out of 10 blacks, with
college education works for government, which means that the
vast amount of money that has been spent on the poor and that
has produced and reinforced dependency have been
administered by a lot of middle class blacks.
Don't look at Baltimore.
There's your cult leaders. Yeah, it's funny. Isn't that the
modern missionary model? We go and collect resources on them
saying the lowest goes to Africa and money there. And the money
never makes it to them.
The only call that that does it with rich people to my knowledge
is Scientology.
Right. Yeah, you're right. You're right. But most of the
missionary model is that not not not not taking the shots to any
missionary. I'm just saying that's the model, that we're
collecting money on the behalf of the downtrodden. Right. And
that's what's happened. entered one Miss Patrice colors.
So I want to pivot to the reason why you're here. In the last few
weeks, there have been stories that have become very prominent
in the national media around you, and particularly around
issues of spending issues of income specifically, there were
two stories that came out that talked about you purchasing
homes that you reportedly purchased for homes and we're
looking even another home. I believe in the Bahamas, they
were conversations about how you spend money. And the stories
also had a lot of innuendo about the source of the relationship
between your money and your spending. And then we'll end the
questions around BLM global movements finances. So the first
thing I want to do is talk about what's true. That has been said
and what has been untrue. Good. I'm
curious.
I want to start Thank you, Mark. I want to just start by saying
something that's really important for people to hear.
And that's I have never taken a salary from the Black Lives
Matter global network foundation and That's important because
what the right wing media is trying to say is the donations
that people gave to Black Lives Matter went towards my spending.
And that is categorically untrue. And incredibly
dangerous.
Oh, Hmm. Interesting framing.
I'm not so sure that that's what people were thinking honestly.
She said I never took a salary. She's very specific. She said
never. She never took any money. Yeah, salary.
Well done Mo.
She took Black Lives Matter stocks, ticker, tape ticker,
BLM. That's where she took not a salary. And you know, I didn't
get rich off the donations. She's very careful, cautious, I
mean, almost to the point of a politician.
Not just almost totally.
And he starts out let me say this. Oh, thank you. Thank you
Mark for your very,
very performative very, and this is very important. So this is
what I want you to focus on. It's not not really the truth is
to fudge.
And this is how tone deaf they are. Or she is or maybe it's
just a way of humiliating and demeaning her followers. She's
on her YouTube channel, doing hauls. You know, how's
our halls? Ha us, Paul. is a hall is that related to a drag?
No, what happens is when you go shopping,
oh,
sorry. Not like when you go shopping? Yes. When you go
shopping, and get all these, you know, lavish things. Really now
Adidas. Yeah, Adidas sent me the shoe. Thank you br say, how
Adidas know your size.
Wow.
And these are the kind of things I had to cover on the live
because you have to
believe it. I'm sure
happy to see them in the visuals that go with it. Oh, her YouTube
channel. Thank you. Thank you Beyonce for sending me a divis
or whatever she comes to it.
Yeah, ever since that moralized or Well, she got, she got that
Netflix exposure coming up. She's got Hollywood kissing her
ass as perfect. That's how you do it. She's an influencer as
well.
colors too.
So you haven't taken a salary. So your income that you use to
make whatever purchases you've made have come from outside
income. You've mentioned on your ID and other people have talked
about speeches, studio deals, book deals for your book, I want
to call you a terrorist. Your income has not come from working
directly with BLM do.
That's correct. Yeah, I'm, I'm a college professor. First of all.
I also am a TV producer. And I have had two book deals. My
first book that came out was a New York Times bestseller. And I
also have had a Youtube Deal. And so, so much of my all of my
income comes directly from the work that I do. But I also want
to say something, mark that feels really important.
Organizers should get paid for the work that they do, they
should get paid a living wage. And the fact that the right wing
media is trying to create hysteria around my spending is,
frankly racist and sexist. And also, I want to name that many
of us who end up investing in homes in the black community
often invest in homes to compare their families. So homes that I
bought directly support the people that I love and that I
care about. Well,
now let me just let me just think about this.
mostly white communities I will say that horse
of course you know where she's gonna go.
Fair point. I
mean, it's it's a fair point for her money However, she got it. I
don't know.
I have no
it's not. Not not for me. Not for me. Not the reason why I'm
saying this is you say you're Marxist. You say you're for the
people. You speak in the terms of living wage, which you're
buying for homes all across the globe. And you're saying in
these neighborhoods that you say that the oppressor lives in
Yeah, but you don't mind being the the neighbor of the
oppressor. And he was saying I go into the oppressive Starbucks
and take money from and we know how these book deals work. Come
on. I
mean, she's hypocritical for sure. But what she said there
was actually like Spend your money whatever you want on is
just it she's a hypocrite. And she comes across as a hypocrite
and the whole movement seems hippocratic and it's not
discussed really at all this is I don't even know where this was
from, but that probably was not some mainstream chat. She
tucked it away. Of course they did away on this. Uh, I mean,
that's Mark Lamont Hill and he's on a YouTube channel news
station. I mean, not to knock it because I'm really I'm really
hurt right now. Yeah, she's not a friggin creative. She's not a
creative. She's not it's nothing creative. Nothing. We saw that
bullcrap stuff that she done. And she has an ad now on the
Electric Slide against white supremacy or some crap. It's
like resna she
says she's a she's a brand, you know, an icon. a figurehead is
a cult leader. Oh, stop. is where she is. She's a cult
leader. We've seen it before we see it all the time. And it just
irks me because Jay collect money on the behalf of people in
the money never met him. I see what you're saying. Okay. Yeah,
okay.
I gotcha. She is David the david koresh of BLM
or Jim Jim Jones.
Jones. Yeah.
It's arcs me and we know where your money really comes from 32.
And I have a very, very specific idea that we need to explore
seriously, which is that the anti Bernie Sanders tinge of the
Black Lives Matter movement recently could be George Soros
funded astroturf, and I will speak as specifically as
possible, Louis. And then I will allow you Lewis to tell me what
you think about this. It's widely on record, that George
Soros, the liberal billionaire has poured a ton of money into
two movements that were instrumental in creating Black
Lives Matter and the buzzword dating back to January, we knew
that George Soros spent over $30 million bankrolling Ferguson
demonstrators and of course, Ferguson relates to Officer
Darren Wilson, who killed unarmed teenager Michael Brown
and was ultimately not charged. This includes support by George
Soros of groups like color lines, news for action.
organization for black struggle, which established itself then
established the hands up coalition. Soros also gave money
to the Drug Policy Alliance, which worked on pushing Black
Lives Matter as a bud buzzword, which has since been
incorporated into speech speeches by political figures,
including Hillary Clinton.
Oh, man,
David Pakman. liberal
right, quickly we forget
in what she wants to do. And that's for show number seven
more money, more problems. That shows you how long we've been
saying this. Show seven we're 30 or 62. Excuse me. We pointed out
to point this out a long time ago. And I think the thing is,
everybody has contempt for these mega preacher mega church
preachers, Joel olsteen. And the people of that nature, they're
doing it exact same thing is, is that it's that you plan on
people's emotions, to collect money from them, and you're
going to foundations and these corporate GM companies to say,
we can sell you it was the thing the Catholic Church used to sail
to sinners to say you know what, we know you're saying but you
can buy your way into heaven. And that's what they say to
these corporations. You know, we know and I'm I got to bring this
up. It was another one another lady named Tamika Tamika Mallory
cheese and got in with the Black Lives Matter ilk. And she's
doing Cadillac commercials at the same time. GM had the case.
Yeah, GM had the case going on where they had nooses hanging in
there on one of their facilities, and the people will
call boys and you're saying all kinds of stuff. So how, how do
you go and do that kind of thing? It just irks me because
at the same time a person like Neo can't say a black man
sacrificed his life for his children. He shouted down, but
y'all sell that privilege to a Nancy Pelosi in the Democratic
Party. That's bullcrap. Yeah, well,
we need someone to be speak well, whenever someone speaks
up, they're like Kanye, and called nuts shoved back in the
corner Shut up.
Of course. Yeah, that's the best that's what the that's what
that's what parts that media but you want to have a fair
conversation. That's commerce. Let's have a conversation on the
facts. But it's no it's that's not how it works. A man I must
say this, their number Maggard but nothing but cult leaders,
and they have a mega church called BLM. All it is and then
you have an Tifa you have all these different mega churches,
whether it's a global warming or whatever.
But even BLM has spin off churches of God little
subdivisions, just like the mega churches, mega churches have to
have churches in other counties as well. They franchise exactly
they own it. Yep.
Wow. And just to give you an example of a mega Pastor 33
tomorrow,
okay, TV evangelists can be a little over the top. dollars
appeal for clinical Isn't
he take the case,
we are believing for 200,000 people to give contributions of
300 US dollars or more,
doing the math of that $60 million. By the end of the world
changers mega church in Atlanta asked for the donations in this
almost six minute video of
the budget g 650.
In your magazine, he goes streams 650 dollars already a
high fly or
we're about to land in Nairobi,
Kenya. But it seems his current job built in 1984 is showing its
age planes getting the engine trouble on the flight to
Australia. And more recently, when his wife and daughters were
taking off from London, it went off the runway.
It's not like a car where you can
pull over on the side when something goes wrong.
And
I knew it was time to begin to believe God for our new
airplane. It didn't take long for the story of the Jesus jet
as some have dubbed it to take off and not in a good way. This
woman is a former parishioner. She showed up Sunday to protest
but God told to leave church property
when I was here, and now he has one and he's asking for another
one. But parishioner
Mary Jones, who takes the bus to Church says she'd happily give
$2
jetdrive most definitely Most definitely. We support our
pastor that's what we're here for.
Oh, man.
You know now lady cash in the bus trying to pay for a pastor
cc bought out the $5 million second jet. Well, hold on, hold
on. It was the Jesus jet. I gotta give it branding is great.
Here's the thing though. This is CME and covering the story and
this is what I'm talking about about justice. If we're going to
be just then we need to come at her the same way we came at him
because they're running the same scheme and you're victimizing
the same people. You have a load of black lady here, riding the
bus and giving money to a mega pastor
in the mainstream media is just another day to day excoriate
this guy. They make fun of
a black man. Oh
my goodness.
It's fantastic. Well, we all have no Jesus jet. But we do
love us some new money like brand new money. I
just I don't want any money around me. It's not I'd almost
rather have a new one than a brand and then an old 20 that's
kind of dumb. But there's some bad new money that excites you
like $100 bills.
Hello, money. Oh, the
most beautiful thing on earth is $100 bill. I haven't seen a
woman is good looking at $100
bill that excites you?
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All right now we're here. Yay,
homestretch.
You alluded to it earlier, now we have to address the pink
elephant in the room. And that was that George floors, drugs
drug use, which this has been a very contentious point. And very
divisive point. And people are seeing eye to eye on this, on
this situation. So what I want to do is, since the media has
done everything to dehumanize George Floyd from being thought
of everything under the sun, including a sacrifice, I want to
give perspective, from the addicts perspective very
clearly, and I want to give this one I want to keep gotta keep it
100 clearly off the videos that we saw him in the store, he was
under the influence or something. I can't say what it
is. And then I mean, of course, what the test is well, but that
doesn't mean humanize the person. That doesn't make but
that that thing that I believe that gives people certain
people, when you have an addiction to treat you like
human trash, and that's not cool. That's not cool at all.
Because these are people and if you ever have family members
that struggle with addiction, you know, they're struggling,
that I think that got lost in this whole thing that and I just
want to give perspective. And to do that. There's a there's a
source called the soft white underbelly, and they go to skid
row, and they actually interview people off of Skid Row. I mean,
they they're, they don't bring them. They actually set up on
Skid Row and interview in there. And they have they interviewed a
heroin addict man, Kevin.
Kevin, Kevin, oh,
where'd you grow up? Where you from originally grew
up in South Los Angeles area. in the neighborhood of Crips, lane
and Crips for young gangsters. I started gangbanging around age
12.
And tell me about your family. He
grew up with both your parents
both my parents in my life and the middle child.
How was your childhood?
Actually, my childhood has to um, I grew up in a well taken
care of family actually. I guess I'm a little older brother,
younger sister. You know, as a middle child, you know, you're
we are felt neglected, which is probably not true. I just felt
that way. You know, I said we tours are the routes. Yeah.
Exactly. gangs,
life after you join a gang. But
actually, this takes to get back right before the end, actually,
was on the right path. You know, the grace I made down the road.
You know, one of the top students in my class, you know,
who you hang out with is who you are. That's the model is
actually true. 30 kids in the neighborhood and I got used to
that. used to that lifestyle. And it took me to get to take a
bullet to understand that life is real ish.
Because here we have a guy comes from a two parent household,
smart kid, which is caught up in the wrong crowd. And his life
spowers out of control. I guess we can go on to get to
this is when I was 14 over the first time I received a couple
of things you call this the tibia. And he shattered The bone
actually, in the bone exposed to the air and which caused me to
have what they call osteoma losses, which is a bone
infection. osteo means bone loss and infection. And during the
time when my bone infection Oh, How's prescribed Norco and first
time I ever took that NorCal one that first that first and we're
good at first pill. I told myself wow I love this shit. And
I'm addicted. I swear to God the first time I felt that when it
kicked in I felt that I said this is a highlight no other and
every since then and I've been chasing that high. And you know,
it progresses from our goal to actually start biking to Norco
from North goat to purpose purposes to oxy codeine without
the Tylenol inside the oxy codeine Straight Dope. And got
me really on it was just the value of oxy codeine. 30
milligrams in South Los Angeles, three values from 15 $15 to $20.
appeal. And if you see a lot of people in wholesale price, you
cannot afford those anyway. I was able to get my hands to get
that pill for $1.
Man.
Oh, yeah. That's Purdue pharma. companies. Yeah, big farmer
Purdue pharma. Who paid a couple billion dollars in fines? You
didn't hear about it? They were all found killed felony murder
rule. Yeah.
Oh, felony murder. I should have caught
No, Sam. Yeah, of course. No. You know, because if we go and
find Hoffman's right, drug dealers. Yeah. And there's this
there's this whole man myth or misconception that there's not
an opioid problem in the black community and there is no and
you know what, this is another one of those things where the
way the media frames it all there was just one
Middle America
right? But then they also say where they're struggling with a
problem. When it was crack, it was like there are animals
they're super predators. They're iOS iOS and of course that the
way they frame that is it's not because the who's doing the
drugs it's because who who is selling the drugs the fact that
they will have the pert well doctors and nangle happen
because Dr. Had lobbies
This is such an important connection you're making between
the Give it to me again what is called the felony murder rule
and the murder rule. That is such an important connection
you're making here that now that's some white supremacy
right there.
systemic racism when you will have you haven't seen a doctor
you say a rash of doctors pert walked Where are these people
getting these any you heard Kevin safecell narco to Percocet
from
now Yeah, that's the day
he said it was in the streets cheap $1 appeal. Yeah. And then
I want to show you nothing The reason why I use pink elephant
pink elephant is a mix between fentanyl and heroin which is
eight times stronger than the regular heroine which it takes
four to five doses of nor can to
get the
poor people back and guess what the ignore can prices have went
from the dose to 630
dollars a dose crazy Of course. Of course.
What you see here that give you the cheap no cheap
solution and the $1 a pill it's the same pill it's just they're
just selling it cheap on the street
right that's just where they get this abundance appeals from
where they get into from the from the pill Mills from the
doctors who who just buy that shit up that's what people were
convicted I mean paid fine for no one went to jail but that's
exactly what was happening they were selling stuff really cheap
through these pill mills and then it just went into drug
dealers and then would could charge whatever because the
pills are almost free to manufacture and then when
the inventory dried up the prices shoot up Yeah.
And then you started this shit starts happening
then then they have the addicts for lack of better word. They
had to find cheaper resources. Yeah. Kevin three code you can
imagine he
may want to get my hands on that peel for $1 you go crazy. You're
nuts. So once I lost that dead value that dollar value started
experiencing withdraws. Man sick, dope sick. I never thought
that I never thought I experienced I never thought I'd
get To the point I never thought that had to happen. And Brandon
fucking be dead. He rather be dead and feel that feeling that
dope feeling. I felt that that dope sick. I knew what OPC is
not new that here Ron is an opiate. And I know that this is
actually also affordable. So by me knowing, knowing that I know
about Skid Row, downtown Los Angeles, I decided to take a
take a trip down here. The first person I encountered man asks,
Where do you know where to go? Where to hell on first place I
encountered? He had I think that dope went home by myself. Not
with Nobody. Nobody got me on it. So I want to leave it in
that you know, we got these Android phones I went to YouTube
I'm trying to see how the hell I'm doing this drove
the car tonight with YouTube instructional videos. How to
now if you say don't wear this don't do take this they pull
your videos down. show people how to shoot know
how to it's in strikes educational.
And what he's saying he made that transition not out of
choice. I'm dope sick. Yeah. I need affordable I need
affordable replacement for the high that this gateway drug. You
were saying that? You know that he he didn't start getting hot
because he weren't because he got shot. He started taking
prescription medicine. Yeah, a lot of people this is his
progress. Yeah. And I just want to put something out. So other
people might I know I'm talking a lot, but I want to stress
this. If you're about to be arrested and your attic. Uh, you
know, you're about to have six days a hell,
you're gonna flip out,
you might think about running. Yeah. It's I got to give an
honest trial, because I know, the next six days, and this is
sales gonna be held. This is
mo congratulations yet again. Putting a human face on George
Floyd in this manner is spot on. And everyone should think about
it. Because now now the movies replaying in my mind, not the
nine minutes of the knee, all the stuff before it when he's
crying, and I don't want to go and I can't go. And I can't get
into the car. Knowing that he's super high, and he and he knows
what he knows it's only going to go one direction for him with
that feeling.
And this is a common occurrence. When people know they're about
to go to rehab or detox or wherever else. Yeah, they take
all the drugs they have. And you can see that on the show. And
I'm certainly speaking I'm not never used hard drugs like that.
So I'm only speaking from what I've seen, but you can see a
show called intervention. Once they know they're made the
choice to go to rehab and they binge
out real bad. It's time to party. Yeah,
it's time to put you know I see I'm going to jail I might as
well you're saying you know how does the one last ride but
that's human Yeah. I had to say this stuff because this is why
nobody got justice because Have you gone rash drug dealers? If
he would have drawn flour would it be a foul innocent where they
went and the shelving would have been found innocent where they
wouldn't have found joy flowing drug builders No, no cuz he's a
nobody in their eyes but how often? We got to go fuck you
know why it's not as costly as a celebrity is because he's a
commodity to these big Hollywood Studios is valuable. I'm sure he
had insurance on him. This is this is my marriage I say that
but this is
the look your point is very clear is really good mo very
clear.
Kevin for trying my hardest stay away from that needle man. But I
didn't like those two options. And I got a grandmother who was
a diabetic and already had needles in the house. It was
already in the house. So I got on YouTube. handheld you are
paying this at Westland is that first five minutes should shock
that blood shot shot up in the shot right up in that range
meaning here go push t t seconds. I think these 10
seconds you had to rush so rushed me in like no other I
swear to God to you that rush was 20 100 times way more way
more powerful and way more better than their first normal.
I told you I told you Jason who shit on news I knew. I knew I
was going back to pills, that first time I banged it. I knew I
was not going to take another pill again. But I thought to
myself, I took so many pills. I thought I fucked up my kidneys.
So I almost thought I was doing myself a favor.
Wow. So I just did one YouTube search powder, shoot heroin.
Right away. three videos, one of which is published by CNN and
another by the public provincial Health Services Authority.
Preparing
your drugs. This is all Vancouver. Oh, it's just
injecting speedball holy crap.
Well, that makes you say anything out of line. Yeah. As
far as medical, anything else medical?
Well, there's something there's something to be said. For the
amount of times we are confronted daily in the media
with a hypodermic needle being plunged into somebody's body. In
relation to this, you know, it's very it's, it's you're what's
the term? desensitizing?
Very much, so
it's kind of probably gonna be a lot easier for a lot a lot of
people to shoot heroin now that they've you know, we're so
desensitized to the needle.
Are we getting there? Are we getting there? And another thing
I want to point out what Kevin said he says, Our rather die.
Yeah. Then be dope sick. Does that mean he will rather kill
them to be dope sick? You see how that works? Yeah, I'm not
saying him personally. But it's life or death. If you're
suicidal, you can easily become homicidal.
two sides of the same coin, perhaps?
Yes. Because it's between me and that dough, I gotta have it. And
I don't care who Mama, Grandma, whoever else and these men this
thing? Those are real people to get victimized by, you know,
abusing drugs, their family members. Yeah. Well, I know they
won't call the cops on me. It's crazy. And then you have this
guy, another cult leader, Dr. Carl Hart, come out, say, Well,
you know, shoot heroin and all that bad. People are they have
this idea of someone who uses heroin and some poor soul who is
injecting the drug and is a slave to the drug. And they
think that heroin
is the reason for that person's problem, because that person
definitely exists. But is that the person's problem is not so
much heroin as everything else, like the person might have co
occurring psychiatric illnesses.
I always say, Well, I'm chasing that. Hi, I got the first time.
Did I use it? But that's a real Is that a real thing? cuz I've
heard so many people say that on documentaries.
Yeah. No, because we are willing to accept that right?
No,
it's certainly true. Like, just think of the first time you
enjoy an orgasm. It's like it was amazing. For me the first
time it's like, Am I chasing the first time I had an orgasm? No,
of course not. But I'll
do I drink that feeling. Like, you can't kill me.
What? orgasm can't kill? You
certainly can't.
What do you guys think?
I mean, I understand and he was stressing that he was not
telling people to use drugs. He was saying, for people that do
use drugs, they're gonna do it anyway. Just like a lot of
people do things you know, you shouldn't do. But it just so
happens. So how do you make it safer for people to do it? They
didn't make me want to try drugs or want to use heroin or
anything like that. him saying that
he used drugs and he wasn't addicted. makes it kind of seem
like it's okay. In what he said. I'm from a different school. I
noticed some parents out there that like, hey, my kids are
gonna drink anyway. I rather them drink in the house. I'm not
that parent. My parents weren't that parents. My parents were no
you're not drinking and you're not drinking in my house. And if
I catch you drinking, I'm a bush as
agreed.
Yeah. Yes.
It's very dad. He said he's a doctor. I don't think he's a
medical doctor but he's maybe a professor or have a PhD. But
he's a doctor so you know how is not all that bad? Um, but you
know exactly what Kevin said is the actual Skid Row attic. They
actually has an author on his side of the football on his arm,
open wound he shoot dope into, oh, no, he doesn't know what
he's talking about.
But again, going back to Kevin in the beginning that he was a
great student and just by all you got shot,
that could be my son. At home good kids smart. Just get caught
up with the wrong people get shot into your life because you
were given a pharmaceutical drugs without the appropriate, I
guess, I don't know, education. And it's not like the it's not
like the medical industry didn't know heroin was addictive. We
went through this in the 20s. In the 70s. He was there. It's like
not, not like we didn't experience this before. Yeah.
And then he's coming around to say, Oh, you know, heroin that
might work. You went to school for 10 years. You can't figure
out giving people heroin might have a problem. Yeah. Man, it
irks me because you have these smart people come along, but you
know, heroin was not all that bad. I shoot up. Every once in a
while.
It's interesting to see that the common denominator of issues in
the United States but I would wager it's, it's global. We have
and it's part of the homelessness problem as well. So
we have a real drug problem in the United States, heroin. And
one way or the other. I think the introduction is probably
most often pharmaceutical. We have Black Lives Matter being
sparked off the protests in Minneapolis with with a heroin
addict. And we have the Coronavirus, lockdowns, another
biosecurity state pharmaceutical move. It's it's all big pharma
man, it's like it no matter where you turn it, what's it Why
is not being discussed? Because advertising on TV, so there's no
there's no message. And just because they're advertising on
TV doesn't just mean that that, that there's no message against
them. It means they're controlling the message.
Well, and the and the further your point. Now Baltimore wants
to stop prosecuting drug possession.
Oh, boy,
don't you skip 40? Are you skipping 40?
No, excuse me. I don't know that there was 40 minutes 40 I'm
sorry. Yeah.
You still got time now? Mo. Yeah.
I am therefore announcing that our COVID policies will now
become permanent. And America's failed war on drugs and drug
users and the city of Baltimore is over
a change in handling crime. The shift following a year long
study involving the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of
Public Health, looking at policies put in place Johns
Hopkins for the Coronavirus, and how those policies impacted
crime. These are Baltimore City States Attorney Marilyn Mosley's
first public statements, since a lien for non payment of back
taxes was placed on the home she shares with her husband, city
council president Nick moseby and a federal probe into the
couple's campaign records.
So I'm not going to discuss that matter. I would refer you to my
attorney
moseby says she is working with police and other community
partners
when it comes to those violent offenses, carjackings murders,
armed robberies, attempted murders, and drug distribution,
we are still prosecuting you, the police will still arrest
you. But on these low level offenses, we are no longer
utilizing our limited resources on these low level offenses.
She says prostitution, public urination and other minor crimes
will be handled as public health issues and turned over to the
community partners that she's working with. To find solutions.
Crime is a symptom of the disease of our society. For
years, we have asked the police to address this disease by
locking people up. We merely address the symptom, not the
disease.
Today, we have a prosecutor who has demonstrated a confirmed for
equity and confirmed for justice and a confirm for public safety.
And this is the exact same words I was Tina and I were just
reading it this morning in Austin, Texas, which we're going
to move outside of the same thing moving the police
services, even the management of 911. Over away from the police
department, to the community partners to community partners.
Exactly. And private industry at the golf course. And there's and
there's zero evidence that this works or in fact, the evidence
is contrary it just it shows it's a horrible idea.
And it's fascinating in this clip she says the lockdowns were
staying but drug use will be opened up coming from john
hopkins you gotta love it right
that's the way to talk.
Chord all the while while she's dealing with a with a legal
issues of her own. Yeah. And is a Baltimore resident and get it
kind of points out in this short clip.
It makes me wonder if there's some of the motive behind the
actual announcement. In other words, is it because we are
trying to give the community a break, trying to give certain
people a community a break? Or some other political reason why
the the prosecutors don't want to don't want to continue
prosecuting. So that's my main concern is in other words, it's
not that they don't want to there's not it's a bigger
picture, that they want to try to solidify their position in
politics, by making it appear that these things are no longer
important.
Yeah,
but we should have saw this coming. Because this was
predictive programming in the show called the wire.
Okay, you know, I've
never I think I've watched one episode I've never I know all
about it. Claire Danes, right. Yes, I've never watched it.
totally understand the concept. People keep telling me I'm
crazy. I don't watch it. I would love it and I
Best TV show ever I know I
gotta put it on my list. I'm crazy.
And this this show their predictive programming, the
birth of hamsterdam.
As of this tour, all hand to hand undercover buys of CDs are
suspended in the Western District.
And whereas
back in the dawn of time, this district had itself a civic
dilemma of epic proportions. The city council just passed a law
that forbids alcoholic consumption in public places, on
the streets and on the corners. But gone is in a was and it
always will be. The poor man's lounge to a man wants to be on a
hot summer's night is cheaper than a bar, catch a nice breezy
watch girls go by. But the law is the law Western casserole and
by what were they going to do? They arrested every dude out
there for tipping back at highlife to be no other type of
any other kind of police work. And if they looked the other
way, they'd open themselves to all kinds of flaunting all kinds
of disrespect as before my time when it happened, but somewhere
back in the 50s or 60s there was a small moment of goddamn genius
by some nameless Smokeout, who comes out to cut rate one day
and on his way to the corner. he slips had just bought pint of
elderberry into a paper bag. A great moment of civic
compromise, as small wrinkle as paper bag, allow the corner boys
to have the drink in peace. And he gave us permission to go and
do police work. The kind of police work, that's actually
worth the effort. It's worth actually taking a bullet for
initial initial This is about police officers name, a veteran
police officer named Buck Bunny. And what he does is he convinces
all the drug dealers to move their train down to these
abandoned or so called abandoned blocks where people still live
there. But it's like out of sight out of mind because he was
tasked with getting the rest down percentages down. Right. So
he's like moving over here saying go down there. But he
ends up creating an environment called hash Dan, which looks
like Skid Row. And he brings the pastor down there called Deacon
and this is what Deacon sees What in God's name did you do?
I'm just trying to make my district liberal. write up a few
blocks in a few places. But I saved the rest.
No offense but you liked the blind man and the elephant is a
lot bigger than what you got your hand when you just can't
see it. See what
a great
village of pain and you're the mayor Where's your drinking
water? Where's your toilets? Heat? electricity where's the
needle truck? The condom distribution to drug treatment
anti theft these people are down on the feet never gonna catch
what's killing them.
Look, they know worse often when he was all over the map. And now
they just in one place does all
that places hell.
And what do you say we sacrifice a couple of blocks. And this is
where this is gonna be extrapolated out to will
sacrifice the black neighborhood. Yeah, because if
you're not bothering them, they're sending the Users,
they're gonna stay there. Because the last thing they want
to do is get it rested. They're like, okay, we
know these are safe zones. Yeah, that's basically the east side
of Austin.
Yeah, and this is what this show was filmed in Baltimore. Yeah, I
know, almost 20 years ago. And now all of a sudden the
epicenter of legalizing drugs. You want to tell me this was a
coincidence? Yeah.
No, and this is what I can tell you.
And this is what happens when his bosses find out
where is the West Baltimore drug trade? Major, these
are not staged photographs. You're showing us
No, sir. No deputy, I found another approach.
I'm all ears bunny.
moved them off corners.
God dammit. Don't be coy. With me manager, I can see that. What
I want to know is how the fuck you managed to move them and
where the fuck they are now.
Deputy. I don't know quite how to put this but we. I mean,
I began by identifying those areas of my district with drug
traffic it was least harmful and proceeded to push all street
level dealing towards those areas. And at first dealing with
the juveniles on him corners. I love success. But ultimately, by
rounding up all the mid level dealers in my district, and
making them offer they couldn't refuse, I was able to make them
an offer is either they move their people to one of three
designated areas where drug enforcement was not a district
priority. Or they face the wrath of every April body soul in my
district.
Major, I don't understand. The only time we can hold a drug
corner is when we assign offices to stand there. Your slides
don't suggest any conservative deployment on any corners. How
were you able to
Christ unit? Don't you see what he's done? He's legalized drugs.
Actually, I like to to ignore them.
He lost your fucking mind. He's lost his fucking mind.
You in my office now? Oh,
so that's 20 years ago, and today we basically have the
South Side of Chicago, very small area where all the crime
is taking place.
Yes.
Wow.
You waited 62 episodes to explain that to me.
timing. All right. You know, one of the biggest proponents,
whether or not it's not south south Chicago, it's Baltimore.
But it's the same thing. It's the same. exactly exactly.
What you do in a war, right. Or I mean, it seems appeared, you
surrender a couple of fronts. You know,
this is my point is that in Baltimore, in Chicago, soon
coming soon in Austin in there in New York City. It's all a
very small area. It's all a small group of actors. And
that's the black on black crime that is reported as a weekend
statistic, but never really reported on because that's
exactly what
it is. Cuz I think it's gonna be a drug utopia. Drug beefs, are
going to lead to murder, more murder, right? A lot of times
people get claimed by going to jail. Yeah, I mean, because they
just have to be forced to get off of it. And I'm not saying
I'm not advocating that if you can get him into rehab,
that's fine. Or at least it also makes it really easy for the new
users who are coming off of the pharmaceuticals to find where,
as we heard from Kevin to find where all the crap is going down
where you can buy
wedding say I went right to skid row.
Exactly. Oh, my God. Again, two episodes. Okay.
Spoiler alert, one of the biggest proponents of drug, what
they call decriminalizing drugs. With NIDA guca. You ever heard
of her? Yeah, I
have actually, what is
a fake she's trying to be a she's trying to be appointed to
the, I think deputy, what's the highest position in the
Department of State Department State Department. Loretta Lynch,
was it? Well,
that'd be Secretary of State.
Yeah. But the deputy she's trying to be the deputy
secretary. Sure. Right.
Yeah, that's a big deal. That's what Victoria Nuland was for
Hillary Clinton. So yeah. All right. Well, she's put in the
show notes.
Well, what she's trying to do is she's trying to be confirmed.
Well, we have as she's trying to be a confirmed this GOP senator
brings up very interesting facts about her.
This good guy is the daughter of a gentleman who heads up a
chemical company produces all sorts of chemicals for a variety
of legitimate purposes. And it looks like from her financial
disclosure statement. He's been very successful and so has MS.
Gupta and family trusts worth 10s of millions of dollars,
including the stock of aven. Core, the company that her
father heads. Well, I realized Miss goop is not personally
responsible as a shareholder in this company, but it is clear, I
believe, from a investigative journalism story by Bloomberg,
dated September 2020, that avatar was selling a cdkn
hydride an essential ingredient in converting poppies, to heroin
Holy shit,
for at least the last decade, she owns 10s of millions of
dollars worth of that stock. I've asked the Attorney General
in the Securities and Exchange Commission to look into avatars
conduct because of it, and if in fact, an American Chemical
manufacturer has been selling seat again, hydride in the
country where they know that it will be available to the
criminal cartels and drug runners. And they should know
that 92% of the heroin made in Mexico using the seadek
anhydride. manufactured by aven tour and its subsidiary in
Mexico. That's a serious, serious problem. Okay,
now this gets even better. It's coming back to me now. She was
confirmed as Associate Attorney General. And I did not know this
at all about her family and her background. First of all, you
look at this woman, she looks like she looks like the angel of
death, man. You've got I'll put a picture in the show notes. But
to hear all this, I mean,
this is
you know, it's tied into this. The reason we're never going to
leave Afghanistan where all the poppies are.
This is a huge, huge
push and take over the pharmaceutical industry is
shooting us up left and right. And if we won't do it ourselves,
though, force us to do it. Oh, you know what?
All the people that the democrats posted support the
migrants. Why are they fleeing because they're being forced to
work for the cartels to grow the poppy. There her dad's company
allegedly sales that may ingredient the cut heroin or to
manufacture heroin. Yeah, man, this
is great.
Ah,
what a super clip to
let's continue on with 46.
In May 2019, a small counter narcotics unit was rolling down
a country road in the rural part of Sinhala, which was the center
of the global drug Empire created by an El Chapo Guzman.
They were overcome by a pretty powerful smell. They they were
literally stopped in their tracks. And it's one of the
things that people on these counter narcotics squads are
looking out for smelling out for in this case is that they got
out of their vehicles. And through a clearing of trees.
They found five cauldrons that were being used to produce
heroin. And they also found four jugs of a chemical called acidic
anhydride. That was made by a major multibillion dollar
American company, and the product brand was JT Baker. And
that chemical is the only thing other than the sap from OPM
flowers that you need to manufacture heroin. And under
international drug laws, it's one of the most highly
controlled of these chemicals sold anywhere in the world,
except Mexico.
The great tragedy for me in investigating this was the idea
that any American company could be involved in that even if it's
unknowing.
It really made us feel like we had to do everything we could to
expose the situation and make it public.
Was that from
that was from a special I think, I think that was a Bloomberg
report that they were speaking about is Ray. I'll get you the
whole it's the whole like 17 minute show and I'm gonna This
is not a drug addict show or drug abuse show, but I was
wanting to show you Okay, we've talked about the felony murder
rule. I want her daddy hauled in, and her and her and her Rico
cases on all of them. This is a cartel and we saw this before
with the Clintons coming out of Mina. When I said the boys are
back in town, the boys are back in town.
Yeah, but they're rocking the horse this time. Instead of the
Instead of ski in the powder,
right well, oh,
wait, this
shows nowhere. Yes, But wait, there's more. So Kevin, for
Kevin? Yeah, hey, clean yourself up and I'm gonna show you the
power of people. When he did that episode that we pulled the
first clips from. That's the poor he got in the comments. Let
him to clean himself up and get drug free. That's how people
were taught about karma whatever you want to call it. Yeah,
that's the power people have when people support people
and he's my cousin, my first cousin when we grew up in the
same household we call each other brothers
named Wenzel Hall and you know, that's my world that's my that's
my heart
that's someone I never had I never endured that pain. I still
want to this pain I don't think it ever healed is that this pain
this loss that I took in? I wish I wish it upon no one but I know
we all have to go through it and I know that some people have
worse or worse a tragic accident me but this is my tragic and I
handled it the wrong way. I self medicated again on a drug that
is opiate, they call it findlaw
right back
is the reasoning thing. Obviously okay. So very
dangerous drug. And I know that I shouldn't fuck around with
this. So that's why I'm here today to let you guys know that
I kind of fucked up a little bit. And I need your help your
support and wise early, early stages of like get the hell off
that shit too. I'll kick her on as I keep this as to
more dangerous than heroin it
yes, it is
brought to you by China
48.
By now, you may know a family shattered by the opioid
epidemic. In 2017. There were 47,000 opioid deaths. That's
more Americans and were killed in vehicle accidents or by
firearms. One drug fentanyl is like rocket fuel and the sharp
rise of this crisis. fentanyl is a painkiller invented in the
1960s and used to relieve the agony of advanced cancer. It is
50 times more potent than heroin. But today, fentanyl can
be ordered on the internet by drug dealers and addicts for an
online overdose.
The target said that he can get any drugs he could ever imagine
over the internet from China.
Conan's investigators went online and discovered overseas
labs offering most any illegal drug
and we just said hey, according to sources instructions, we're
interested in buying fentanyl. And the result was say the least
surprising. And we have dozens probably we're 50 different drug
trafficking networks reaching out to us saying we have
fentanyl we have even more powerful fentanyl analogues
whatever you want we'll get if you're cheap we'll get it for
you in bulk
you got 50 replies
at least
and all of these came from where it was universally China
even cheaper dope
now I mean I'm depressed
even cheaper dosa was the pharmaceutical the heroin and
when you when you can't get heroin or people stepping on it
with like I said pink elephant.
Yeah. Just
bigger to fit now. I guess it was it was in bear with China.
Mexico and everything and the pharmaceutical company. The
police, you think I posted my number one concern is the police
and I'm gonna say this and you say and we can wrap on this.
Here's the thing. I don't care which side of the argument you
are on this case you didn't get justice.
period
and that should bother you like it bothers me. Because it
because if you thought you think you if you think it was murder
one and it should be for own trial for murder one bad bad the
law of the land, not by my opinion. You can't pick issues
when you want to apply laws. That's the problem. And if you
want to say he was not killed by that police officer same drugs
killed him. I need to see a pert Walker ghouta her father, all
the fentanyl supplies from China if you got a Batman, zip line a
man and pull them out. I don't care. Because if you really care
but you know what and I say this to the end this world I don't
care about really nobody but specifically black man unless we
have something to offer George boy had his life to author
offer. There was another person populate, struggled with
addiction named DMX who lost his life. It's the same thing. Now
one half is saying it was drugs. He had a relapse. Another half
is saying he took the vaccine. We need justice for him as well.
Oh, no.
This is probably one of the most impactful episodes we've done.
He really got to some core here and it's so multifaceted.
It is right in front of our face is right in front of our face,
but we are being manipulated by the media which won't tell us
the whole story. Well,
you definitely helped get a lot of the story out on the On this
episode, and I appreciate it. I know everyone else who's
listening appreciates it. The producers appreciate it. If you
want to support this work, please go to Moe facts calm it
is important. I mean, I personally get so much value
from this just learning and thinking and stuff that I
completely know and intellectually it's like oh my
god, like you get so I mean even I get fuzzy, I get clouded over
I get distracted. This was really good reset. In fact, it
is the great reset by mo fact Thank you mo I just thank you
again it was fantastic. I can't wait for the next episode.
I hate to say it was I wasn't enjoyable making this because I
had to deal with the programming myself. I got angry at
sometimes. I mean I'm not immune. But luckily I know I see
first understand it and then to be understood. And as I always
say pay attention to everything and the true reveal itself.
Ladies and gentlemen, fellow American
lady Americans
This is James Brown. I want to talk to you about one of the
most deadly
killers in the country today. I hadn't seen the other night and
I was sitting in my living room
goes off to sleep so I started dreaming a dream I was gonna
Blaze and so I really strange weird objects that ended up
talking to the people and I found that it was a drug and
pulling your veins he said I came to this country without a
passport. Ever since then. I've been handed my little white
greens and nothing but waste, salt and deadly and bitter to
taste but I'm a world of power and all those to use me once and
you will know if I can make a meal schoolboy forget his books.
I can make a world famous beauty collection looks I can make a
good man for sick his wife's and a greedy man to prison for the
rest of his I can make a man forsake his country and flag
make a girl sell her body for $5 bags something my adventures and
Joanna but I put a gun in your hand and make you and sell a ban
bags I found my way to heads of state to gentlemen play upon us
and China ready to ban I'm respected and taken and I'm
legally insane I take my attics and make them steel bar on me.
Then assessable a vein and their armor. So be you Italian Jewish
black comics. I can make the move for love man forget that
sex. So now my man you know do your best to keep up your habit
until you're raised now the bullies have taken you do you
identify me? I must lie in that conadi where I can't get to you
with this copper we're gonna call six days of madness you
might throw me off but you pick me up Brenton.
All three of
you become resolved to your young man or woman.
I'll be waiting at the gate.
Don't be afraid Don't run. I'm not sure. My name is He will be
back but take your foot in the stirrup and make hay and write
him. For the white horse I'm here with
you do l. Hill, brother.
Rubbish
and get away from that