Hey mo facts with Adam curry for July 25 2020. This is episode
number 44. And we did it. It's Saturday and we're dropping.
Can't believe it. Am I doing
dropping on a snare? I'm doing fine. Yeah. Dropping out. Oh,
how about yourself?
Yeah, I'm doing real good. It's, it's been. I guess it's been a
pretty good week. And yeah, I've done my homework been I've been
doing the work, which means I watched all all the episodes of
The Last Dance about the Chicago Bulls, Michael Jordan and I feel
I've I've been schooled. Now I know what's going on. I also
realized that when it comes to podcasting, I'm really you know,
the Michael Jordan of podcasting, which makes you the
Scottie Pippen.
I'll be that no, you're not you're not the Michael Jordan of
podcasting you the Naismith? Oh,
I mean, you know if I can take all that.
Majority, and he only played well, what a fantastic
what a fantastic documentary and the whole time. It's in your
face right there. Why is this man successful? Because he had a
supportive dad. I think that's a huge part of it. And you can see
all these guys, all these abnormal Pippin had, you know, a
little different situation, but holy crap, man, dads, that's the
common denominator. That
contrast we had to do that contrast between LeBron James
who didn't have that right, strong, Father structure. And
presidents compare it to Michael Jordan, who did that that has to
be discussed down the line somewhere, because there's a
huge contrast there. And I'm glad you brought that up. Yeah,
it
was it was fascinating to see I really enjoyed it.
Speaking of father figures, this next topic we cover today is
going to be an influential part of the story as well.
Okay, let me roll out the wheel. Hold on, everybody has time to
spin The Wheel of topics where it stops. Nobody knows. Well,
obviously Moe kind of knows. But let's see what we're going to be
discussing on today's episode of moe facts with Adam curry. This
is episode number 44. The topic is Barack Hussein Obama. Okay,
we haven't done a full episode on Barack Obama, have we?
No, we haven't. And it's this do Thomas show. 44? Yeah, he's the
44th president. So coming off the last episode. And coming out
the last episode of The Marxism in community organizing I
thought it was only appropriate that we take a official deep
dive into into the topic which you can't cover him in one
episode alone.
No, no, it's his his rise was so incredible how it worked in
Chicago and everything and forget Hawaii and before that,
but it's really quite a tale that it down as it's been
written about by many people. I don't know how many people
actually know the true story or the outside of the narrative
that we've all heard.
If you just take it on his face day, you got a man here named
Barack Hussein Obama elected in a time where America was
fighting a war in the Middle East. And he's so called Black
by, you know, the how loosely they use the definition but has
no lineage to slavery, apparently, or how it's
reported. And he has a mom named Stanley. So I mean, like, if you
tell me if you tell me that's going to be your 44th President.
I'm taking the money against that happening. So right Right,
right here. Yeah, on that. So get into I guess we need to just
drive on dive right into da da das city of Brock Obama one.
On tonight on hardball, we bring you a special report on the
audacity of Barack Obama, covering the remarkable journey
we've witnessed of him through the Obama erg. It's looked back
at how the President has conducted himself in the public
eye, how he evolved in office and how he overcame the many
challenges that stood in his way. We were there from the very
beginning, of course, when as a relatively unknown State Senator
Barack Obama delivered that rousing keynote address at the
Democratic Convention up in Boston back in 2004.
There is not a liberal America and a conservative America,
there is the United States of America. There is not a black
America and a white America and Latino America and Asian
America. There's the United States of America.
first glimpse we all knew I did. I thought we're witnessing
something special here. Here was my immediate reaction after he
was finished with that amazing speech.
Oh, his leg was tingling.
I have seen the first black president there. No reason I say
that is because because I think the immigrant experience
combined with the with the African background, combined
with the incredible education, combined with his beautiful
speech that every politician gets helpful in his speech.
Speech was a piece of work.
Hey, yeah. Yeah, you know, it was really interesting about
that particular convention. That was the first convention that
they gave press credentials to bloggers. And Obama was just
swamped swamped. He did a lot of work with the bloggers in the in
the press room, it was, that was definitely a part that has not
been discussed very often.
And two things he said in that clip, I rang the bell for
Warren, he talked about the roadblocks that Obama faced. I'm
not sure like, election was not talking about once he got in
office and the pushback that he received there. But during the
election, I don't remember remember any roadblocks. I mean,
everything was like laid out for him perfectly by the press by
everything else. To step right into the position. And two, he
said about the background, and he even had the cash to sell
because he said the immigrant rat ground Yeah, African,
African American. Couldn't say African American spirits. Just
that's not technically true. Right now about the speech, he
gave it the Nanyuan just give me the 2004 convention. My man,
Nene fast. My one of my best friends, if not my best friend.
We were rapping at the time. And he wrote a ROM it was like,
Brock Obama's gonna be the next president or something like
that. And we looked at each other. And I'm like, I mean,
this is like in Oh, four when he wrote this and why. And that
might. So
and here's a clip.
No, but we just lit when he said that. And it was like, Yeah, I
was like, you might be right. After that. It was just like, he
came up on the radar. And boom, it was off to the running. Yeah,
it was once he came out and Oh, four. But I say I said this
before, and I'll say it again for this show. But for all four
I'd never heard Obama. No,
never, ever unless you knew about Illinois state politics,
or really Chicago politics.
But that's not the that's not the point I'm making. I got you.
I had every copy of ebony,
I see what you're saying. Right? Yes,
we watch BT faithfully, teamsnap that used to come on Saturday
mornings, all these shows and never in my life heard of Barack
Obama. And then he drops out of the sky. He
just popped out of the womb.
In 2004, like who is this guy, but nobody questioned his
credentials. It's just like, who is in his like, Oh, he's our
best shot to get a black president. So everybody just
kind of got behind him.
Yes. And that is that's kind of cutting it short. Everybody.
Just everyone just Oh, all right. Is that what happened?
Everyone went? Oh, yeah. All right, cool.
Well, they gave him the swag test. I mean, that was the term
at the time used. I mean, I'm sure it's drip, or salsa or
whatever. You want to use now. More, more recent slang, but he
had the swag test. He had the Bob, he gave the proper depth,
you know, black wife, black kids, right? Like, he goes down
to checks. And then he didn't have the white diction that you
normally have with somebody of his credentials. So it was it
was it was perfect. I mean, we'd hear so my Harvard Law Review
and Yale and no skull and bones. You don't talk in that way.
It's the right, right. Okay, so he checks a lot of boxes right
off the top. He checks every box. How about how about your
mom? What did your mom say when she first saw Obama?
Everybody loved him. Yeah. I mean, it was like Brock Obama. I
mean, I can't I can't explain it. It was just he was a foot. I
don't think people can really wrap their head around. I mean,
he we talked him bigger than Martin Luther King. We're
talking bigger than Michael Jordan. I mean, on that level of
fame, but overnight, it just came out of nowhere. So and was
there really want people to understand that? Was there a
discussion about his so called blackness, in your family or
with your friends? Oh, no, you can't question him. Once he hit
the scene. It was like he was above questioning because he was
like, this is our best shot and when I say us Not me, per se, my
generation. I think it was the odor. I hate to use this term,
but boomers. Yeah, they were like, This is what we fought
for. This is what we, even though a lot of them didn't
participate in the civil rights movement, it was like, This is
what the whole movement was about. Yeah.
That makes total sense. This was the Yeah, this was the
culmination the crescendo of it all. This is where this is where
we want to have, right?
Correct. So let's get into Audacity to
three short years later, we got it at the place for Abraham
Lincoln once stood in Springfield, Illinois, to hear
the future president kick off his campaign, coldest day of the
year
in the shadow of the Old State Capitol, where Lincoln once
called on a house, divided to stand together, where common
hopes and Common Dreams still live. I stand before you today
to announce my candidacy for President of the United States
of America.
I think it's so important we look back and catch the dynamic
of this the wonderful trend of a guy who comes from really
nowhere state senator, basically is on the roadmap, states and
before he was even elected as a senator from Illinois, out of
nowhere, magic, how did it happen?
How is it possible he's an American Great, rare, Merc?
That's not legit. Observation. I mean, out of Nope. I'm one of
these people. You know, I mean, I follow the policy even as a
young person, just a little bit of the give people a little bit
of understanding about where I come from. I was like, a junior
Freedom Rider. Seventh grade treasurer. And I have to tell
that story at another time. But I guess I mean, I guess I can
give a short version of it. Yeah. Seventh grade, I went as
Treasury for my school. So I guess being a black person and
winning that and being the treasurer of seventh grade, that
put a flag on me to say like, really? No, I'm serious. I mean,
I was like, kind of, um, they brought me into the guidance
counselor's office. Like, we want you to be a genuine Freedom
Rider. And they put us on a bus and we dressed up and kind of
went like did like cosplay for silver rights. And this is kind
of the insight, but I always veered away from that kind of
thing. Like, it's just strange. seems strange to me. Because
when we went to these functions, they're pushing all kinds of
other stuff like, women showing you how to put condoms on what
bananas, I'm like, what post we were in. Freedom, right? When
you were seven or eight. No, seven grades?
Oh, seven grade. Oh, sorry. All right.
I'm pro black. I mean, like, pro black. I mean, like, my dad,
like what sets them great. So there's about a right time on
that at 13. He gives us he gave us all a copy of Malcolm X out
about the autobiography of Malcolm X. But like he's here
and like some weight. And I'm like, Yeah, let's go get you
know. Let's go get our freedom. Right. And we get here and it's
all these liberal looking back. Now hindsight, it's all these
liberal policies they're pushing in agenda was this was this
strain, which is
a white school, black school, obviously mixed. What was the
degree it was mostly?
Well, Durham is half a half from Durham from Columbia. So I would
say it was maybe 6040 to 6535. But at these functions, it was
majority
white people telling you how to put a condom on a banana. Um, it
was
minorities. So you'd had a female it had to be female, but
a lot of females but yeah, it was just weird. I mean, just get
people inside. So I kept up with politics. I mean, long story
short, I was kind of into politics and new who ever Black
was running. And Barack Obama never came across my radar ever
right? Well, that's the that's the long short four minute story
but
you go freedom. Yeah, Jr. Freed.
Me, man. They try to indoctrinate me early. What
happened?
We? We have to Yeah, we have to figure out why it didn't work.
Why the programming failed on Yeah.
Because I was taught to think for myself. Yes. Strong.
Pretty sure that's part of it.
Guess we can get away from that long story and get back into
Audacity? Three,
Mike, I think sometimes we got to get away from a president for
at least maybe a decade before we can even look back and see
him Hall. What do you think of Obama? Because we're gonna go
right through this the next 20 minutes and tell me about what
you say now?
Well, I think you have to begin by saying that this was a
terrific chief of state. This is someone who, with that family
and that stature and his persona, represented this
country well Around the world and, you know, presided
wonderfully over this country in that role. You know, the other
thing is that, you know, we're so pressed right now to have
sort of an instant read on Obama's legacy, the way that
future generations will see him. It's gonna depend so much on
what follows. I know it's somewhat frustrating. But let's
say Donald Trump turns out to be an effective president and the
economy is looking wonderful in a few years, you know, as a
Trump goal, if Trump goes up, that's not going to be good for
Obama.
Oh, there we, yes. And who do you know? Who that was saying?
Microsoft? I missed this last night. Sorry. I'm sorry. It was,
there we have it. Yeah. The media tripled down on Obama. So
if Trump is successful, no good, then it makes Obama look even
worse, and it makes the media look bad as well. So now you see
part of the motive of keeping the Obama and I say a product
for a reason because let's look at Obama through the same lens
as MLK. I'm not talking about Noman here now, a large portion
of this show we're going to look into the man but to the media.
Key is a product of our control mechanism. I will say this as a
politician, you probably can't get any better politician than
Barack Obama. One from one of history's best Absolutely. From
the just how to work a crowd and just the appearance in the
family life and carefree comedic
timing. A pro perfect comedic timing so good. And
women love them because he's not he. He wasn't in women's eyes.
I've heard you say this. He's not so attractive that he makes
me uncomfortable. Women have a thing for him. Oh, and he was a
lot of women's fantasy sexual
fantasy. Definitely. Yes, definitely a lot of white women
sexual fantasy and densenet secret and it's and and I also
understand that I get
that and I will say all women and for especially single moms
he was like that dad to point to like
you're a doofus. Look at your stupid man with your wife
beater. Be like Barack. Exactly. Yes, very hard, very hard for
us. Married men, Barack Obama years.
So hopefully, we understand part of the reason why the media will
always protect Obama and, and bash Trump because they, the
media got Obama elected. Let's just be honest here. I mean,
that he was the media's candidate out the box. They did
everything they could to undermine anybody that got into
his way. And this and we're as we're here later in the show,
this did this didn't just start with presidential politics. Oh,
no. No.
So now we have to get into a set of throwback clips, because they
laughed lavished all this praise on him. And this guy Michael,
the last guy that spoke did this weird thing of we really need to
wait a decade before we judge Obama. Yeah. Because if you look
at the facts,
Ray find anything. Exactly
is nothing really there especially for black people, or
so called black people or quote unquote black people. Um, so
let's get into this next set of throwback clips from show 23 And
we'll start with Tavis Smiley one.
This week while we were traveling in Iowa, we spoke with
Mr. Smiley about what's changed over the last decade. As Martin
Luther King Day approaches on Monday. We started by talking
about what areas if any, are better for black American now
than they were before Barack Obama took office.
I'm sad to report that in every single leading economic
category, black America has lost ground over the last decade in
every major economic category, we've lost ground. So this book
comes out as you said in 2006. So clearly, this book was out
before Obama shows up to win 2008. So the book was never
about Barack Obama then this 10 year update is not about him
now. But it is true that over these last 10 years, most of
that on his watch black America has lost ground and the major
economic indicator categories.
It didn't take long for Tavis Smiley to be off the air.
And this is when Tavis Smiley lost his position and in black
eight, yes, you you win against the goose that lays golden eggs.
Yeah. And he told the truth and he received so much backlash.
And like you said he just vanished. He was pretty much
done. He got sued. Yeah, for so called sexual harassment and
unpleasant workplace atmosphere, hostile workplace and a whole
bunch of stuff. And so then PBS dropped him and then from there
just went downhill.
And he was labeled as one of the worst things you can be in the
black community. Really a hater. Hater. You're just the Obama
hater. You're just a hater. You know,
he's that to this day.
Surely that's changed for some people that they don't think not
that anymore or is he still was
subconsciously when putting these clips together? That was a
subconscious I mean, of course, he was conscious about thought
about it, but it was a looming, let me use that word a looming
thought is like don't come across as just a hater. All
right, we need we need to have fun. No, it's serious because
I'm with you. This is a test you can do to see what the who
you're talking to bring up Obama and see the Obama test right?
You have the you have the obat, which he never did anything
wrong and keep they'll even they'll go as far to as explain
away why he didn't get anything done with the first two years
when he had, you know, everything lined up for him.
They'll make excuses for that. But at the same time, they'll
say he's the greatest thing ever happened to us. So those Oh,
bots. Yeah. And then you have those people as well. He was
good optics. You know?
It's interesting. I was talking with the keeper about this just
last night. My coincidence. I remember when, and I probably
have a clip from it somewhere. For the first two weeks after
Obama was elected the first time the police were everywhere,
saying hey, we're gonna be really on the watch anyone says
any racist shit, we're coming after you. They were like super
protectors of Obama. Do you remember that?
Not No, I don't remember that. But I remember it was like a
long like four month hangover. After he won of just party,
especially inauguration it seemed like it never ate me. Oh,
yeah, there's Yeah, um, but it was. I'll mention his now just
so people. If I hadn't heard previous shows, there was the
wink wink nod nod. The first four years he has to do is now
be presidential. And well, if we can just get him to the second
tower,
then then he's gonna do all the cool stuff for black folks.
Right, reparations, all that, you know. Yeah. And that was not
verbalized. But that was the that was the wink wink nod nod
like we got, we got one we got went in.
And there was no reason not to think that were there any
community leaders who were spearheading this wink wink,
nudge nudge? Or was it really everyone? Not even Al Sharpton
was saying anything?
You couldn't talk about it though? Right? Because like, you
don't want to scare white folks. Case good white voters, you
know. So that was the balance because the his the makeup of
what got him elected? was a lot of people it had to take it had
to be a lot of white people. I mean, of course, sure, black
turnout, but he still is like this balance that he can't seem
too scary. But he's one of ours, you know, in many who can't in
many ways, in many ways. I think it was a bit of a reparation
vote.
Just considering goggles or do I just keep going?
No, please. Follow you up.
It was not a not a guilt vote. It was really a reparation vote.
Because I think when people voted for Obama, they really
want it to my uncle, Republican all his life, CIA guy total, you
know, best friends with Bush Senior Obama twice. And it was
really, and of course, the hope and change message worked
extremely well. Although, you know, it was, I think, rightly,
universally scoffed. But the sad thing is, I really believe that
if Obama had spent time in his second term on doing well, let's
just call on getting tangibles. I think I think he could have
gotten it. I really do. I think he had the motivation. Yeah,
screw the Republicans, or whatever. You know what? I think
he could have gotten stuff done. Like real tangible stuff.
I'm glad you call it a reparations vote. And it's not
the fact that it's like oh, we voted because we owe you
something. It was the fact that see if you put up a quality
black person for the job, I don't mind hiring me it goes to
show you my I'm all about the content of your character. No,
no. Did you use that line? Yeah, so it was like white people felt
like see you put up a quality candidate will vote for him. Um,
now I will say this about reparations, the same high that
we had of the post racial America that they shot to sell
us to sell us on. Real reparations will do that, and it
will have the real effect. Because it's like, job. I mean,
like, we handle that. So you can't can't beat me over the
head with anymore. And that's why I'm a proponent of
reparations,
right? So it's done. So it's done. And over with Yeah.
Now we can start talking about this 400 year narrative, which I
always say the narrative is just as dangerous as the action.
Because kidding. That's what the mental slavery stems from, is
the narrative. So you could put a tie that up, put a button on
it, and then you can go and you know, start snoring forward
slavery. Exactly. So I just want to let people know that Hi. And
that camaraderie that we had to post right, right after Obama
and pre the Bure gate. We can get that. That could be the
real, that could be the real feeling. So yeah, I guess we can
let Tavis Smiley continue on with to talking about how we
lost ground?
What accounts for the fact that less that there's so little
progress or indeed, the backsliding? What accounts for
that going on? Under the the leadership of the first African
American president? Why do we explain that VM?
I think there are few things into your question. How do we
explain it? I don't know. I think the historians are going
to have a very difficult time trying to juxtapose how in the
era of the first black president, the bottom fell out
for black America, that's gonna be a hard juxtaposition to make,
I hope to be around to read what their account is for why they
think that happened. But my research and this text suggest a
few things in no particular order. Number one, there was too
much deference to the President by black people. We got so
caught up in the symbolism that we didn't press hard enough on
the substance. And so symbolism does matter. I just think
substance matters as well. And so there was too much deference
in some part. To the president on the part of black people,
black leaders were sidelined and silenced too often in favor of
an invitation to the White House. And so more could have
been done in terms of pressing an agenda. You look at the gay
and lesbian community. Look at the environmental movement. Of
course, Wall Street gets everything they want, but look
at what other communities gained over the last decade. And look
how black America wasn't just stagnant, but indeed lost ground
over the last 10 years in part one, because we were too
deferential
man. He's probably ground zero of the cancel cannon. Can we get
one?
Yes, have a smile.
He never gotta get a cannon because he was he was before his
time a tree was trending.
And he says he said it. He was saying why I'm going to be
canceled because you can't say anything bad about him. You got
it. You know, all the leaders were sideline, yeah, nobody
questioned him. And it was just at least he wasn't lying to
everybody we use when you back in the corner, a mechanic
they'll have a thing from Obama. They say at least the show my
kids they one day can be black president.
Right. That's that's pretty much the whole legacy. At least it
starts with at least Yeah, that's too bad. Yeah, that's
really too bad. And really a miss chance. I mean, I never. I
knew very early on something was up not with Obama. But I was
going back and forth between London and San Francisco at the
time and in the condo I was renting or apartment I was
renting the my next door neighbor she was I think that's
maybe where I do start using the term and Obama bought. And they
had camps. And she would volunteer. And these camps were
like, three days in a row and you'd learn how to harass people
voting for Obama. It was it was she was white. And really,
really dedicated compared to now I would say, probably with an
undertone of a Black Lives Matter type vigor, you know what
I mean? But I'm not without saying what you're gonna vote
for the black man. You know, almost it's not verbalizing
that, but it was pretty clear and also a very strong sense of,
if you're not for Obama, then you're no good. There was a very
strong sense of that.
Let me say like, like, I think I hear if you're not for Obama,
you're against black people.
Well, that's obviously the implication. Yes, of course.
You're obviously a racist, racist. Yeah, that's what white
people do to each other.
Well, no, because it's happening on the other side. Now we're 45
If you forget Donald Trump do you have to be Akun? His hands
across the border buddy There you go. Same thing. It's the
same thing it's like you browbeaten into believing what
everybody else wants you to believe instead of having your
own but
it's a clue is Akun just as bad as a racist or is a racist?
Worst? I mean, what Trump's in paper, scissors, paper, rock
scissors, you know which one we
saw a cone is equal to what they call a race, traitor. I mean,
that's the best that's a trade nation real traitor. Okay,
right. Right. So, modeling the worst thing to hurtful version
of Uncle Tom, you're asked it. I mean, you're ousted from the
communities. Right. Gotcha. I'm advertisement out Tavis Smiley
but worse. Okay, so I got it. Yeah. So I guess we'll wrap up
with the final clip from from Tavis
number two. And clearly there was indifference. There's no
doubt about the fact that this President received the kind of
headwind that no presidents ever received, there was clearly
obstructionism so that that's a factor as well. But the third
factor, I think, I would put as a question, I think, again,
historians would debate this for years to come. Did Barack Obama
not get enough done on black issues? Because he was
obstructed? Or did not try hard enough? He did not do enough?
And I think the answer is clearly both. We'll see what the
historians come down on that. But this book, again, is not
about him, per se. It's about where black America is. 10 years
after that text. And again, it's just not a happy report. There
are pockets of progress. But across the board, we've
regressed
this was Tavis promoting his book. Yes. Do you know the title
of it by any chance?
I think it is. Black America lost ground in robotics
something similar to the title of the clips? No, I'll
make sure I get it in the show notes. Alright, so
that's how it began and how ended. So what we had to do now
is feeling we're not really gonna get into his any of his
policies or things that nature. I want to get into who was
Barack Obama, before he was presented to us and Oh, four.
And then what was the fallout of having him for eight years?
That's kind of like where we're going with this show. So the
biggest fear of Brock Obama, I would say from and I can't I'm
speaking out of place here, because I'm not a white person,
but a non black person, the biggest fear was, he could
secretly be an angry black man. Right? That's that's the secret
in so much. So. They had the angry translator. At the press
dinner, I believe, I believe it was, um, it was a pill from KMP.
Yeah, like a bomb was say something and then peel would
translate it an angry black man, boy, remember this? Yes. So they
actually did one on the show. On the Key and Peele show itself.
Let's just I mean, it's funny how art imitates life, which
imitates art, right? I mean, it's this cyclical thing. So
let's get into the art portion of it with Obama's anger
translator.
And evening, my fellow Americans. Now, before I begin,
I just want to say that I know a lot of people out there seem to
think that I don't get angry. That's just not true. I get
angry a lot. It's just the way I express passion is different
from most. So just so there's no more confusion. We've hired
Luther here to be my anger translator Luthor. First off,
Concerning the recent developments in the Middle
Eastern region, I just want to reiterate our unflinching
support for all people and the right to a democratic process.
Hey, all y'all dictators out there. keep messing around and
see what happens. Just see what happens. Watch,
also to the governments of Iran and North Korea. We once again
urge you to discontinue your uranium enrichment programs
mu Kim Jong Un until both y'all 86 Shit bitches Oh, come over
there and do a thorough y'all. Please test me and see what
happens.
On the domestic front. I just want to say to my critics, I
hear your voices and I'm aware of your concerns. So
maybe you could chill the hell out like a second then maybe I
can focus on some shit. You know?
That goes for everybody. You have an interesting you have an
interesting take on that told me again. You thought that perhaps
people were worried he was an angry black man. Secretly an
angry black man? Are they fear of that?
Yes. Fear of that because they thought behind the smile and
well who's the white people? Okay, I'm gonna say this. This
is the perception of black people. Oh, white people
concerning Obama's good and the fear of all the good good
I did not take that at all. I've never heard this I in my core of
whiteness. I don't feel it. I'll tell you what it was, to me it
meant and still means is the guy doesn't have enough black
credibility and needs a little toughening up a little, little
gangster, little gangster narrative. So, yeah, he talks
like this, but this is really, really what's going down and
quite honestly, that's not much different than what Trump says
in Trump language. Hey, hey, little man, a rocket man. Yes.
That's why I rang the bell. Luther actually sounds like
true. Yeah, yeah. It's like, Obama thinks it and it's okay
for him to think it. But you just can't say it. And I think
that's why people really have it out for 45 Savage is that he
actually said,
you just say 45. Savage. For Trump. You've not introduced
this on the show. I have you. Yeah. 45 seconds. Yes.
Seriously, this is this is this is what I love is this is very
interesting. I reached, of course, there outliers, but in
general, I don't think there were any white people were all
in man. Yeah, well, there was issues, of course, and there was
narrative in the media. But to me, this was something actually,
to me. It made it it worked for him. I was like, yeah. Why don't
you talk like that was actually kind of my can I remember this?
Angry? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
I understand why he can't
do that. But last day you can be in America is an angry black man
on the street.
I understand. And I don't want to take away from your flow. But
it's not pleased. It's just as interesting to me that you and
we're generalizing. You say black people thought that's what
white people thought about the black man. And I'm just saying,
I don't think so. I don't think there was a majority of people
scared about him being an angry black man. I think they were
scared of other things, which we didn't which were unknown, you
know, his real background, you got this fuzziness of, of the
birth certificate? Is he is he? Is he a Muslim? You know, there
was a lot of shit being thrown in the air, angry black man, not
one of the memes I remember, that's all doesn't doesn't
know, that's just as good as the undercurrent of being a Marxist.
That's the undercurrent of being maybe a sleeper cell terrorist.
You know, he's fueled by some kind of anger. That's what I'm
saying. Okay, and let me
again, I'm with that. And with that, let
me say the anger manifests itself, as all he wants to
destroy the American America or he's, he's the Antichrist or I
mean, like, all of you think, Oh, yeah.
All of that is true. Of course. It's
it's deep seated in that anger. And let me let me as I say, I
got I have to say this because we've never breached it when we
broach this topic before the angry black man. Black man has
to be self conscious of how we're perceived not to come off
as angry. And this is a real thing, because just say if I'm
somewhere and worker was somewhere, and I have a scowl on
my face from thinking like when I'm in thought, yes, cow. Yeah,
people can't see you say you're right. Yeah, everything.
Everything alright. Mmm hmm. That's nice. That was a real
phenomenon has to be talked about? Yeah. And this is why
people say oh, why Black men so docile. It's called like if I
raise my voice to say like, go crazy. Well in that fierce being
really scared. You have to be
I had an experience a couple of months ago was during the
lockdown and I just come out of the grocery store and I and I
drive into a very busy intersection and so but but of
course it's it's Rona locked down so there's not not a lot of
cars there's cars and I got a I got a full green light. So I'm
just moving and this this guy he starts you know, he's starts
crossing the road look sees me and does one of those slow
crosses. So he's crossing on red, you know, and it's just
really slow. Now he looked he was he was dark skinned. i He
could have been didn't look homeless look more Grifters but
doesn't really matter. And as I just slow down, and the guys
just slipped, you know, I'm like, so I tap the horn BB. And
the guy goes into a rage and jealous than angry black man.
And for me the here's here's the reason why I wouldn't have
brought it up otherwise, but I felt so comfortable. It didn't
scare me at all. I think the show has influenced me. I'm
like, Wow, all right, man, you go ahead, you wave your arms all
you want, but I could see the other motorists because I
stopped and open when Windows said, Hey, man, just chill out,
bro. Just follow the rules. We all got to do it. But I just I
didn't feel scared at all. Which is new for me because I'm sure I
would have in the past.
And just to just to wrap this up, this is this. What? In black
people's mind, especially black men. Yeah, the appearing as
angry blasts was really what heightens the fear between cops,
young black men, because it's like you coming into the
situation? And what you can have one cop it's cool. It's like
Hey, bro, you know? Right, right. And then the next cop
comes on life hasn't heard. I mean,
do you know what the difference is between those cops? I have no
idea. The one cop has done the work.
No, you're exactly right. It's
really true. It's just not the work that Robyn D'Angelo is is
serving?
Yeah, but you have experience with dealing with it. It's
cultural. It's interesting. It's very cultural.
I think that is a topic for the future we might want to expand
on because that's a really good one. And it's it's a meta, it's
meta across everything.
So to get to this angry black man that America feared, I felt
this clip of this young black man who probably be about the
same age as Brock Obama, maybe a little older, but maybe from the
same generation, but he comes from a das lineage. Yeah, um,
which is a huge difference. I mean, it makes a huge
difference, as we're gonna hear later on in the show. But this
is what America feared. Barack Obama may be
the first to tell us that it is manly to keep your word. Right.
If you are a man, you keep your word. And now all the black
people in this country are demanding and even black people
in the whole world are demanding is that you keep your word. You
told us we were free. Well then show us that we're free. You
told us that there is justice equality for all in this
country, you will then can stick to your word. And let us see the
justice and equality for all. Or else admit to us that you're not
a man, you're a word you're afraid of us you're afraid to
give us equal. You're afraid that if you give us equal ground
that we will match you and we will override you. And if that's
what you're afraid of us, tell us that just what you were
afraid of. But don't keep hiding it from us and holding this up
to us. And every time we ask you for something, you give us a
little bit of something and it's all tucked in. We don't want
tokenism and then most black men in this wallet don't want
charity. And yet still every time we ask you for something
you give us a little piece a little piece you're playing
games with us when I've seen my father have to put it well kinds
of stuff. He was a big man, he raised a family he went down and
he had to go around to the back door with his wife. without
asking for anything we're not asking for any favors. All we
want is what's ours.
Yeah, yep. So of course that
so that's what they were afraid of or him being when you're that
kind of black men are raised by that kind of black man. As my
this sounds a lot like my father, I'm just gonna say that
as in I did everything right and you still want to mess with me.
And they thought that's behind that smile of Obama and the cool
as a cucumber demeanor Right? Was was lying that now other
people have other things that you know that we talked about,
you know, terrorists, things that nature, but I believe in
black people's minds, we thought White people had that fear. And
that's where a lot of criticism came from. So when you wanted to
criticize him, you were aligning yourself with that thought.
Well, I hope I made myself Yes, yeah,
no, it's it's totally clear. But you also understand that I think
that that was much less in people's minds. I understand the
undercurrent.
No, no, no, I'm just explaining to you why he was given a pass
and couldn't be criticized. Of course, white people didn't want
to appear that way. What I just laid out and black people didn't
want to appear align with that. So it's like no, no, very
delicate, very delicate balance, but it worked.
Yes. And he knew how to navigate that very well. To not play the
race car but just like flashes like, let's go play.
Wow, there it is. Just a little little corner. All
right. Um, so as we learn more and more about, um, Barry, we
get to say he's the furthest thing from that. I mean he and I
guess the people that put him in power knew that so you like you
don't want to have a black man with the new codes. I mean,
like, hey, they might have y'all but they felt safe that he
wouldn't be that way. And it's maybe because this is his
upbringing background to look into his upbringing and
background. We're gonna jump right into it. Yeah, we have a
throwback clip from Judge Joe Brown. On Barry,
as anybody black ever gone and checked out who it isn't.
Went through school is
Barry Soetoro, his stepfather and adoptive father, low low
lol. Soto Toro, dad is one of the 20 richest men on the planet
Earth. Obama is beneficiary of a trust fund. Along with his two
half siblings. He is probably the richest man to ever occupy
the White House. Lolo Soetoro was a major and Indonesian army
and a contractor with the CIA. What daddy did was run death
squads for the Indonesian government. He was an executive
vice president for Standard Oil and when he decided to set up
his own company in Indonesia, where possibly the world's
largest oil reserves are located. Imagine he used his
position of having an active death squad it is proposal to
facilitate some of his business dealings. And now, interestingly
enough, there are documented moments between George Herbert
Walker Bush, who was head of the CIA at the time and Lolo Soetoro
certain arrangements and they were frequent golf partners. And
Lolo Soetoro used Goldman Sachs as its as his American
financier, or financial banking institution.
Yeah, it was really interesting to see that Wikipedia does not
have any of that information on Lolo Sotero.
Not actually, you can't find any information on Harley, I mean,
as JoJo Brown said and further clips, and if you want to hear
more about that, go back to show 14 But as you said in on clips
after that, that he had to go like to page 1415 on Google just
on a Google search. Yeah, just just to buy anything. Oh, yes,
exactly. Well, luckily, that was poor auto quality, because I
think JoJo brown being interviewed in a restaurant over
dinner, he did a studio interview. And he shared more
details on this. Not well publicized past of Barack Obama.
And I will say this JoJo Brown. He's a very serious person. I
mean, he's a judge. I mean, I don't take him to be a hater. I
mean, because that's, I mean, that's the word right? I mean,
he's not Obama hater. But if you do your homework, you'll start
to find some of these things have a lot of validity soon. So
I guess we can get into the cleaner version audio cleaner of
a bomb was past one.
And the last one number 44. and wonderful to add 43 Bush and
Obama. Well, their pictures are bush with his arm around eight
year old Barack Obama because his stepdad he adopted daddy
Lolo Soetoro and done a lifetime where the business with the
Bush's Uncle George Herbert Walker, after whom George
Herbert Walker Bush Bush, one president was named, founded
Halliburton in 1946 and Oklahoma, and Lolo Soetoro had
been internationally Executive Vice President for Standard Oil
there was talk of him being a CIA as well yes, he ran the
death squads for the Indonesian army on his own call. Anyone
could be assassinated. So when George Herbert Walker Bush
became head of the CIA on to the Ford administration he just got
with his old buddy in the oil business Lolo Soetoro and pulled
off the hitch
Oh, yeah. Well, so reason why I'm laying this out is people
like what's the what does have to do a thing. I want to lay
this narrative out so when we listen to the clips after this,
we can see see it through the lens of possibly Barack Obama
being a control asset slash, I hate to use this word because
it's a loaded term Manchurian Candidate. I don't mean, in the
terms of he's gonna go crazy and do something, but just being
controlled from the from the onset.
And having done a lot of this work for no agenda, it's
probably worth mentioning that it's gonna sound pretty crazy.
But all of these connections really do make sense. And you
can find that I'm putting stuff in the show notes right now
about the sub Taros. And the Indonesian massacres between 65
and I think 9090 And it's this is not fantasy and the CIA stuff
is also I think demonstrably true.
And the far more interesting facts and and branch on that
tree is the Dunham's is maternal grandparents. Oh, yeah. I think
it's, yeah, his grandfather and grandmother had ties to
governmental agencies. Oh, I guess, um, let's just go ahead
and let Joe roll. He's on. He's on a roll. So let's let him
continue.
And even some of the richest people in America don't make
that why? Because when his stepdad he died, he was one of
the 1015 richest men on earth. And he left everything in a
trust fund operated out of Indonesia. So the American
government can't touch it didn't make Barack Obama 1/3
beneficiary for the assets of one of the 1015 richest men on
earth. So we got a game run on us. So you know, that little
thing that bush W does when he gets with Michelle, THEY GIGGLE
and he gives a candy. The inside thing is that supposed to be the
same kind of candy he used to give to her husband when he was
678 years old.
Ah, wow, that's so creepy. I hadn't heard that one. I liked
that. Yeah, they're always buddy buddy. But that's so terrorist.
Pateros so e t o r o they were they were they were all in the
oil business with the bushes. Same same criminal enterprise.
Yeah, cuz you got the best patto old killer rabbit hole. It's YES
to go down if you start following that trail, because
this ties into many historical events, one being in Dallas, but
I'll leave it at that.
All right. Now he can't run. But you know, George H. Walker Bush.
Remember where he was on the day JFK was assassinated. He's the
only guy
just the
only guy who can't
remember why was it? And I will say this is just a point. George
Bush Senior, let's just call him that. Probably ran this country
from, in my opinion, from 1980. Onward. And to Trump got his
office. I truly believe that to be so he, I mean, you think they
say um, Reagan's mental capacity was diminishing, even when he
was in office, who was his vice president, George Bush. And then
you hear the stories of Clinton and Bush in action and they
hold the whole Iran Contra MENA Arkansas. Boy was a soldier in
the empire.
Right? So you really didn't have a choice. If you think about it,
you really didn't have a choice. Because if Clinton is Bush's
guy, and they're running against each other, either way, it's
gonna be ran by Bush. And then Bush runs his son against
Clinton's vice president. Yep. And they kind of just called it
like, now Bush won.
Pretty well get the hanging chads the supreme court called
it right.
Well, who cares? I am. Anyway, um, and they following that you
have Obama come in which Obama has clear ties to George Bush
Senior. So we and if you notice how long this flag stayed at
half staff headlamps, you know? Yes. How much cool. George Bush
Senior hat in this country? Oh, yeah. Massive. So I just want to
say that because it's that's critical to what power structure
Barack Obama really came from. Also, it makes
it very understandable why my longtime CIA uncle had no
problem voting for Barack Obama, the same company, same
organization.
And that go even further that goes to show you why the
intelligence agencies really has won on for Donald Trump.
You know, there's really no bigger man who's a conspiracy
theorist than a black man who's a conspiracy theorists. This is
this is cultural tell me it ain't true. Moses is cultural
because there's so many ain't going to go back to to vote for
me Claudette Colvin and there's so many of these, which would be
if I said that now and publicly blue like, amen. It's we're
always uses conspiracy theory and nut job
because we always knew black ink existed and it's like, okay who
employs and empowers black ink? Yep. So it's like so you have to
question everything, everything calms down because like, What
What's your motive? What? Why are you trying to steer me? How
are you trying to handle
this? And this is this is why we we clicked so well, when we
first started talking, you know, it's like I think like that all
the time. That's I just conditioned myself. That's what
I do. But I didn't grow up necessarily having to do that or
thinking that, but that's why we connect. I love it.
Yeah. And that's how I had to grow up because like, everybody
smiles in your face as your friend you get that kind of
thing not to be distrusting of people, but you also and this is
why I said Barack Obama dropping out of the sky.
Yeah, that's like flag that's a red flag right there.
That goes totally against it. Just say if we had a community.
Oh, you want to know who's passing through your town? Your
you know your neighborhood? Who's the winner? Who's he
connected with? Just say that, like his family.
Got Married? Because his grandma.
Oh, he's Yeah, he's like, Oh, he's so so Hamlet's. Oh, no,
that was Hamilton's. So for not him for him not to be vouched
for, and you showed up
and basically vetted, he wasn't vetted
at all right at all. But in hindsight, we had to start doing
some digging. And that's what Joe Joe Joe Brown is doing, and
will continue to do. But I will say this. Now, Joe, Joe Brown is
a huge proponent of black masculinity and black men. So if
it was no fire there, he wouldn't say anything about the
smoke. Right. So obviously, he has access to information that
emboldened him to come out and say these things, knowing he
could be, you know, removed, right. If if they're not true,
right, so I'm just wondering,
the lack of visibility. Yeah, the lack of pushback on him on
that kind of shows that people like, quiet.
Yeah, shut up. Shut up. Yeah, well, we won't shut up Joe.
We're gonna let Joe get to you and clip three.
Barak grandmother has been acknowledged as being the woman
that operated the channels through which CIA money went to
the Southwest Pacific. So she introduced her daughter, who had
just had Berry, Barack to Lolo Soetoro, and they got married
and Lolo Soetoro adopted Barack Obama, the name was changed to
Barry Soetoro. Now when he went to high school and a why he I
know about that high school almost sent Well, my oldest son
to it, I could afford it, but I didn't think he observed
deserved it. When a years ago the tuition was $95,000 a year
not including room and board. When Obama went there. I've
talked to two of his classmates they independently state that
the tuition not including room and board was 45,000. Now
Business Insider reports his income for 2017 at over 200
million net that's after taxes deductions write offs. For this
last year 2018 They reported it as 570 plus million dollars in s
after all deductions tax write Trump doesn't make that Miss.
Big Bank Barry. Nice. Damn. So people say Well, Joe, saw you
got an axe to grind. There's other people that were sound
nice alarms, and this is from the other side of the political
sphere. And this is caaci age of four stages of completion.
I know they released a report as claimed that the 44th President
of the United States is a CIA creation. American investigative
journalist Wayne Matson says Barack Obama as well as his
family, including his parents, stepfather and grandmother had
connections with this CIA.
America tonight, if you feel the same energy that I do,
if you feel the same urgency that
exceptional already promised for the disillusion and change from
the status quo, these are all what helped Barack Obama to
become president two years ago, but now the reality seems to be
something far from that. And what is being called a bombshell
investigative journalist Wayne Madsen has revealed in a report
that in 1983, President Obama worked for the Business
International Corporation which was a CIA front. That company
used to conduct seminars with the world's most powerful
leaders as agents abroad with CIA espionage activities. Madson
says this intelligence connection runs in Obama's
family, Obama's maternal grandmother, Madelyn Dunham was
one of the first female vice presidents of the Bank of Hawaii
in Honolulu. The report says this bank was also a CIA friend
for funneling money to oppressive dictators and rulers,
such as former Indonesian President Suharto, who came into
power through a CIA backed coup.
You know, having grown up in the Netherlands, I know a lot about
the Indonesia story. Because it was a Dutch colony.
Okay. And yes, there's a lot there. Yeah, there is. And I
will say this, a lot of the topics I really don't dive into
about him or around him, because they're, they're non starters. I
mean, you have half the people that are going to believe
whatever they believe in the other half is going to be
opposed to that. So I mean, like semester, I didn't really get
into, but the things that you can prove his worth, and it
makes sense. Yeah. And how protective the intelligence
agencies were up him. It just kind of explains itself. I mean,
Operation Mockingbird media supporting him Hello. It's quite
clear what's going on here. But I'm laying this out to say,
Okay, if we look at this, say this is true, which I believe I
wouldn't be presenting if I didn't think it was some truth
to it. Then we have to look at him totally different and how he
was presented to us as that way because we talked about
infiltration, and all of the black established groups or
groups that were established those so called, representing
black people. So he's like a one man entity, right? He's a one
man organization, but he just he was so polarizing that he drew
people around him. And it's like, now he has this huge
protector it huge protect realm of protection around him that he
was bulletproof. Yes. And they use him to push any agenda that
they want it to. Yes. Without any question.
And I think David Axelrod had a big role in this. That was his
one of his campaign managers. Yep. Dan Durbin? Yes. Dick
Durbin. And also John Brennan. I mean, John Brennan was, you
know, he was kind of Obama's shadow guy, you know, always
from very early on.
Yeah. And he's the one and Dick Durbin is the one that told by
his admission, I didn't want to bloat the clip list too much,
but just for this one little factoid, but he tells a story of
Yeah, I told Barry at those speech that he gave, you're
gonna run for president or you need to run for president. It's
like he was like, told, and we started to hear how his path was
laid out for him going to this certain district, and, you know,
it's just like it was everything was laid out. It was for him to
be where he was at when he was there.
That path was paved, and people got pushed out of the way quite
harshly here and there.
Yes, and I have the stories I support. But let's wrap up with
the CIA narrative with the second goal 1500 9660s,
Obama's father had been selected by the leader of Kenyan African
national union, Tom Boyer, to receive scholarship and be
airlifted to the University of Hawaii. CIA files indicate that
and boy was an important agent of influence for the agency. The
airlift was a CIA operation to train future agents of influence
in Africa, which was a battleground between the US, the
Soviet Union and China for influence. As a Kenyan citizen
in the University of Hawaii. Obama's father who was already
married, and had a child with another on the way and Kenya met
Obama's mother and Dunham in a Russian class in Hawaii. This
meeting eventually led to their marriage. Barack Obama's mother
Dunham was divorced when his son was four. She married Lolo
Soetoro, after meeting him at the East West Center at the
University of Hawaii, the center affiliated with CIA activities
in the Asia Pacific region, but we worked for Tim Geithner's
father, Peter at the Ford Foundation with a better widely
believed to be a CIA front and our grandpa Matson is
questioning that if Barack Obama, as I suspected was
subjected to the CIA project, either by brainwashing or being
part of it people it'll become problematic for an American
president. He says if Obama has been brainwashed, then he can be
controlled. And if he was simply part of this project, then he
can be bribed.
I like hearing Tim Geithner in there who later returned as
Secretary of the Treasury, I believe.
Yes, there were childhood friends. Now that just works.
What are the chances? What's the chances that
Tim Geithner could not be more white bread? I mean, that's a
total dweeby douche. So he was out there so
interesting. There's two points that were made here. Um, one
there was his parents met in a Russian class. Yeah. Kenyan. Why
always can you go to Hawaii?
I think Russian
why would they study in Russian for hmm, could that you know,
could that have some Marxist slash communist undertones with
it? Very possible his his mother be a honeypot? You know, that
was put into those classes to see who she could net and you
know, you have to ask these questions when you know how
these organizations work.
Well also, the East West exchange I'm just looking
through some old CIA documents was an exchange program between
the United States and the USSR so that that makes sense why she
would be in a Russian class. Right and at the East West
exchange the East West Center in Hawaii
Yes. With this key figure from Kenya,
y'all yeah it's fantastic it all fits I just part I didn't know
this is good like the East West Center stuff that's good.
I'll see homeland I know how it works yeah.
Really quite accurate surprisingly accurate Yes.
Anything to get the job done so you have Mr. Brock Obama Sr. Oh,
one more thing that Ford Foundation which that comes up
several times as some kind of CI connected organization or
entity. So
as a as an aside the fort I was just doing some research today
on Garza and what's her name? Rometty the other two Black
Lives Matter
co founder Matey and colors,
not colors, colors. I'm done with colors colors is the
magnet. Yeah, but I went further into Garza cars. I think it is
LSU, Michigan, heavy, heavy funding from the Ford Foundation
in a whole bunch of different nonprofits and we're talking
millions. Really, really? Yes. You get me started Mo and I just
go off and do my own homework just for myself. I mean, that's
instead of watching TV, I'm like, Oh, let me investigate
this.
Now you see what I know. You got you got rabbit fever.
I know. I know. I know the fever I know it.
So Brock Obama senior this mysterious character this kind
of used in paint it to however way they want to paint them.
They wrote this interesting book on him. I think this is doing
the SEC during the first term. But that gives some background
that where there was none on Barack Obama, Barack Obama
senior and This is CNN the other Brock Obama.
He was part of Africa's independence generation and a
brilliant economist and he was also a polygamist and an
alcoholic who ended up becoming the father of an American
President Barack Obama senior has been somewhat of a mystery
to most even to his own son, President Obama, but biographer
Sally Jacobs did the research and discovered unbelievable
information about a man who lived a rather complicated life
here to discuss her book. The other Baroque the bold and
reckless life of President Obama's father is Sally Jacobs.
Sally, thanks for coming on the show. First question to you what
inspired you to look into the life of Barack Obama senior.
But clearly, there was not a great deal known about him. As
the campaign went on, it seemed that this was a person that we
needed to know more about. There was a fair amount of information
out there public about the President wouldn't be
president's mother, but the father was an unclear figure.
Okay, so I'm looking at this author, by the way, I want to
see what
Yes, please do because that sounds like a spook Sally.
Sally does sound like she's in the basement. They're tapping up
some books for for the agency. Okay.
But the disdain they have for Mr. Brock Obama senior is going
to be even he's an alcoholic and appalling, right.
She basically read the Amazon review, I just looked at it.
That's exactly what
I want to ask this question. And in this, you're going to see how
much this vein this is this is what you will call Karen's to
Karen's I hate to use that term but it gets kind of fitting
here. Watch how they tear down Brock Obama senior Oh firstly in
and off what he's a polygamist and an alcoholic right
right
this is a question I always had what is the difference when are
polygamous and semi in a poly Emery polyamorous polyamorous
relationship and why is one acceptable than the other but
I'm just gonna put that out there what they notice if you
could spin this if he was a favorable character, they could
say oh he was in how you say that word again poly
polyamorous, polyamory polyamorous? They will say this
they will say he was in a polyamorous relationship as
often struggle with battled with a controlled substance abuse.
Right? You see other media paints name that is
so good. I'm just looking up just looking at some terms here.
So polyamory many several and more love practice of or desire
for intimate relationships with more than one partner. Okay, now
let's look up polygamy. Just make sure we see the practice
customer having more than Oh, that's really the marriage part.
Okay, so it's
they have marriage they have polyamorous now with polyamorous
marriages. Sure. And I mean, this is I guess I know I'm going
off here. But I'm just want to address these things that we
come across them that is centered with the man is wrong.
When a woman says she wants to husband, okay, it's always
always a winner.
I just don't think he's very accepting of them to catch this
man in this way.
Yes, they should check their damn privileges what they should
do. Right. They
should really check really shoes. Yeah, definitely. Well,
let's continue on what I'm bashing Brock.
You mentioned in your book that there was a chance that actually
some evidence that that he actually wanted to put his son
now President Obama up for adoption? What can you tell us
about that?
What I found is it's in his immigration document. There is a
memo in which Obama senior tells the foreign student advisor at
the University of Hawaii where he was enrolled, that his wife
and Dunham was making arrangements with the Salvation
Army to put their baby up for adoption. The baby was unborn at
the time. Did they actually do that? It's unclear. And Dunham
had every reason to do it. She was 18 years old. She was having
a mixed race baby at a time that intermarriage was very rare. On
the other hand, it didn't seem to be the kind of thing she
would do. She took her responsibility seriously. Obama
senior had every reason to put the baby up for adoption. At the
time he was renewing his visa or hoping to if immigration
officials saw him as a polygamist with a mixed race
baby, that might not have been the best profile to put forward
and
he had family members have said that they they don't believe
there was ever any evidence or any thoughts about putting
Barack Obama up for adoption. But do you believe that they
were actually considering it, given the the evidence that
you've seen?
I think it's more likely that Obama senior told them that to
make them think that the baby was going to vanish. It gave a
cleaner profile for him to immigration officials. The only
thing I do wonder about is that he said the Salvation Army. The
Salvation Army did have a maternity home in Honolulu. It's
interesting to me that he mentioned that. Maybe they
talked about it. I didn't go ahead with it. I don't think
they made arrangements to actually do it.
You see how they gave the mom a pass? Oh, yeah. Oh, it's pay
attention to their white man black.
Wow. By the way, this is Sally H. Jacobs is the only book she
ever wrote. Sally is the only book she's written any other
books.
Interesting. But she's a touted reporter. This smacks of a hit
piece and is he's not like his father. And to elicit I know
people like man while you're kind of reaching this, that
you're gonna hurt yourself. You're, you're reaching out,
you're reaching, reaching right up in my field here. I'm loving
the reach.
Well, listen to this next clip. Part Three.
He speaks so sweetly about his mother. Do you think if he was
raised by his father, he would be president today.
You know, this was certainly speculative myself. I think it
would be unlikely Obama Jr. was a very brilliant and brave
person. In some respects. He was extremely self destructive also.
I think he wasn't a very nurturing person and was rather
self absorbed. I think Obama Jr. Might have chosen a very
different life would be A different person in many
respects if he'd grown up with that kind of a paternal figure.
Oh geez Did you hear that? Oh yeah. Excuse me. Dad raised
please check your female privilege their holy crap. Oh,
man.
That's a hell of a question. This is a dad raised him doom
that you would think he would have been POTUS? No, no, no, no
it's even though his dad came from Kenya to come all the way
to Harvard. By way of Hawaii he was saying basically pulled
himself up by his bootstraps. I mean, that's the way the story
is written. Nah, Heaton. Ah.
So this must have been Stanley's business.
Stanley Stanley, and he years he's he writes lovely, Stanley.
Um, so but that not so much. I guess let's just go ahead and
let that go and finish them off. Let's let's finish bashing
Brock.
anything positive? Anything redeeming about senior?
Absolutely. For starters, he was hugely successful in one sense.
He made it from a very poor, simple childhood in Western
Africa, to Harvard, you know, he was really a brilliant
economist. Also, his story was deeply entwined with that of
Kenya of the moment. He was a fierce advocate for the African
people. He was not happy with the way the government was
going. And he spoke out very boldly against the
administration of Jomo Kenyatta. He did not feel that the little
man was getting his fair do. And Obama senior was very courageous
about that, at some personal risk.
And just very quickly, what do you think President Obama will
think of this book of yours about his father?
I think you'll find a lot that he didn't know in it. I cannot
imagine it would be a very easy book to read. But I think any
child who doesn't know their parent might want to know the
true story about him. That's my hope.
Wow. Wow, that what a great move. What a great move. Don't
look over here. This is a dead end.
Amy redeemable qualities. That's what she said about? Well, he
was a brilliant
economist. I will they keep reminding us really. He was
truly a brilliant economist. But obviously, you know, he was so
brilliant that he was just a total loser and a failure.
He was a rabble rouser. So that's always good. If you want
to stir up trouble in Kenya, so they're all for that. But then
she says, Will he? You know, what would you think? What would
Barack Obama think about the book about his father? And she
said, I think he'll find a lot of surprises, which that
surprised me because of the way the narrative went. Brock Obama
wrote a tell all books Yeah. Yeah. The dreams from my
father's I would think he would have more information than
Sally. Unless Sally has some resources
and resources that we are not aware of. All right,
brought know how to file says she does, according to the court
and hurt. Speaking of that book, we have a Baroque reading from
the dreams of my excuse me Dreams from My Father.
There was only one problem my father was missing. And nothing
that my mother or grandparents could tell me could obviate that
single unassailable fact. Their stories didn't tell me why he
had left. They couldn't describe what it might have been like had
he stayed like the janitor Mr. Reed, or the black girl who
turned up dust as she raced down a Texas road. My father became a
prop in someone else's narrative. Attractive Papa, the
alien figure with the heart of gold. The mysterious stranger
who saves the town and wins the girl but a prop nonetheless.
Wow, some honesty there. What a prop nonetheless. Wow. Wow,
that's brutally honest, really, brutally honest. In context,
great to hear that.
So we hear we seen his dad get bashed. Now let's listen to in
comparison, how they lavish praise. And Dunham.
We are backing out to our occasional series of reports on
the presidential candidates families. Looking tonight at
Senator Barack Obama who's made his life story and his
upbringing a part of his campaign. He's written and
spoken openly about the mother who raised him the father who
left him, both of whom of course left behind a big impression.
NBCs Lee Cowen has our report tonight on family ties.
I have not had my parents now for over a neck. The beginning
of Barack Obama's improbable journey began with an improbable
union, an African man named Barack and a white Kansa named
Stanley and wed at the dawn of the 60s when interracial
marriages were still illegal in many places. He had lasted
though just three short years and their lives not much longer.
Obama's father was killed in a car accident in Africa in 1982.
His mother stricken with ovarian cancer, died in 19. 95
It would be wonderful to have the Council of parents, it would
be wonderful to be able to admit mistakes. Or just get some
encouragement.
He said he has to rely on what they left him. And each left him
something very different. Obama's father abandoned him at
age two, he left first for Harvard and eventually returned
to his native Kenya. To this day, the elder Barak remains an
example for the younger, but of how not to live.
While still bashing dad, that story was set man that's
beautiful that that that narrative was crafted creative
posted on on Wikipedia and good to go.
Now Adam asked me why that narrative was set that way, you
know more, I'd like to ask you why why did they put set the
narrative that way?
So he could identify as well, so black males could identify with
him not having a father. So single mothers could identify
with him with his mother. And with him
makes makes him also know a little less scary. Yeah,
relatable.
And now he's gonna be he's a black man, but he was raised in
the corporate, white, white society. So the anger you don't
have to worry about He's alright. He's okay. And at the
same time, they had to paint him as a poor black kid from
Chicago. That was this. The product?
Like the poor black kid from Chicago bid, that's the funniest
one. When I was on the south side.
Yeah, that's the that's the that's the, they tried to do it
with the same thing with Kemal Harris, right being from
Oakland, and she's, like, not from Oakland, maybe we're not
the Oakland like you're using that term. So no, it's the same
thing. It's like
she's coming from the block in Oakland.
Right. So you see how they're setting this up? That is and and
is good and Brock is bad. And he's a single product of a
single parent home grew up on the south side of Chicago with a
white mom. Yeah. I mean, this is the narrative if you ask people
that are not studied on Brock Obama that say oh, he's from
Chicago. Not Kansas. Not not these are the places why
roofspace
his roots are actually he's to be honest, if I if I'm looking
at his roots coming in from his mom's side, he's part of the
either white supremacist Obama's got a lot or lots of rich royal
blood in the veins
in he's like 14 cousins with Dick Cheney. So obviously, okay.
Black child, but not from lineage of slavery mom named
Stanley, his name's Hussein, who's got a cousin is gonna be
vice president one day, and he's lucky enough to make precedent
that was, and you know, the Bush is
a great country or what Mo? Oh, man, look at what's possible.
It's crazy.
I'm taking the under on that. I mean, as far as that happening.
So let's continue with the NBC. Nothing tradition.
I watch myself for some of the things that I know, ended up
hurting him. Too much pride, on inability to listen to other
people. Those are things that I guard against in myself.
But in that fatherless void, stood his young mother, who
remains more influential than anyone. Yeah. How, for example,
when Brian Williams showed him on the cover of Newsweek for the
very first time, your way senators reactions, was not
about himself,
you know, it makes me think of my mom. And in the fact that
she's not around.
Obama's half sister, Maya remembers that there was little
traditional about their mother.
I think it is interesting to look at the patterns how our
mother started in the Midwest, and ended up in Indonesia and
how he started in Hawaii in essence and, and returned to the
Midwest.
Remember that friend who knew Stanley and early see her in him
all the time, the passion he brings? I think, a lot of that's
something he learned from his mother's knee. When he needed
the most,
when I was writing that speech on race, I'm the son of a black
man from Kenya and a white woman from Kansas. Her memory loomed
over me as this is something that she would trust,
a reality check. He still sees
you know at night, if I'm saying a prayer night Send out maybe a
little message to my mother and hopefully she somewhere can
hear.
You know, of course, without without mo facts, I never would
have caught what was going on here. This was totally shaping
him to be completely relatable to the black man as well. I
mean, just by the parental situation and then totally
pushing all of that towards how great his mom was. I mean,
solidifying the matriarchal structure is genius.
What always say about our community is the matriarchy, or
patriarchy. So yeah, to get to get black women to buy in. They
had to relate to this to them on a single parent level issue.
Sure. And we even heard on a previous show, Michelle Obama
refer to herself as a single mother.
That was one of my favorites. I mean,
they're pushing that narrative of single mothers single child
happened. How did you win again, Tarik
didn't have that clip. If you want to hear flow, to say it for
a second. Please, please,
looking at new models of getting farmers markets to, you know,
create buses and drive into communities that are
underserved. So we have to deal with the question of access. And
believe me as a busy single mother, single as a busy mother
Rupes. It's the narrative made no the narrative they're
pushing. Yeah, it's
in the back of her mind. And the truth just came up. Oh, crap was
used to say that exactly.
1000 video from the Ann Dunham so Cerezo Endowment Fund, and I
thought it'd be interesting just to hear a little little take on
that.
Our mother was a scholar, and she believed very much in
learning from books and she could spend hours in a library
but she also believed in learning from people who are
committed to honing their craft from people who walk in the
streets, and she felt like the whole world was a classroom.
When Ann Dunham Soetoro applied for her PhD in anthropology at
the University of Hawaii at Manoa, she had already invested
significant time and energy to improve the quality of life for
craftspeople in rural Indonesia.
In the introduction to a dissertation is what I found a
very interesting statement. She said this work is the result of
14 years of research in Java. And it was perfectly true. She
knew that place inside out
and was driven by the desire to partner with others to create
lasting change. While working at the Ford Foundation, States
Agency for International Development. She collaborated
closely with the range of nongovernmental organizations to
support programs addressing women and poverty.
US AI D is is the big tip off the Ford Foundation, of course,
but the USA ID is that is the United States. International aid
division. That's that's where we fund nongovernmental
organizations and countries from that, who were there of course,
sending back intelligence that is that's the fund. That's the
one you want the money from.
And his mother reminds me a lot of her name slips my mind just
that fast. wrote for 16 magazine. Ah, what is her name?
It'll come to me. Okay. I'm big, tall feminist in the 60s.
Oh, yes, of course. The CIA woman.
We both know her name was Anita Bryant. No, no, it
was the other one. It was Gloria Steinem.
That's it. Yes. His mom gives me the Gloria Steinem, Bob.
Oh, yeah, I can see that.
The I came to her and like, can you write for her? Oh, yeah. No.
Gloria Steinem was the age makes sense. Right, a good ghost.
Gloria Steinem. Absolutely known she was a CIA agent. She admits
it. Were agent. Yeah, she would operate if she did stuff for
them.
Yeah. So we're fast forwarded from his childhood. And when we
know about we went through how he was raised by an Indonesian,
Kansas. And we fast forward to him going to college. And at
Harvard, we have an eyewitness account from Dr. Randy short,
which we played some clips from him before. And I like to call
him Dr. Messi. Because he always, always given us more
even further than what you expect from him with his
shocking insight on Obama at Harvard,
but I think he was placed here.
I don't think we I don't think we elected him. I think
selected.
And I saw him being selected 29 years ago, walking through the
law school on a weekend that how Obama manipulated the white
students to make him head of the Harvard Law Review. We exchange
for him to stab all the black students in the back. And I
happen to stumble into a meeting of the Federalist Society. And
what I heard was a man saying how much he hated black people
and how black people were stupid and how they were despicable.
And how he could control them and he knew how they felt about
him. And I was listened to this person, and I'm telling you my
spirit at the sign of the black man about six foot six, one,
bisexual, biracial. So I walk quickly through the Harkins
common which is a student union at the law school and saw Obama.
The audience turned and looked at me, we looked at each other.
I was so angry at the stuff he said about black folks. But I
realized while I'm out number this what what difference can I
make? So I stormed out the building, and I asked some
people who some collateral in there, he realized, like Richard
Nixon on crack, he's the president. And that's where I
heard the name Obama, and that if he were made head of the
Harvard Law Review, he would keep the blacks in check. For
the most ultra conservative agenda, whatever they want to
do. He said, Because black people would look at him, and
they trust him, although he wasn't one of them.
Wow. He's so this is Randy. He's a radio guy, right? Randy short?
No, Dr.
Randy shore, he was he's a doctor. He's the one that wrote
the news on our show about the Depo Provera shot. No, yes.
Harming black women. Right. So he, I mean, he he's, you know,
he's said considering, you know, Valley resource in a, quote
unquote, black conscious community or black. Not
mainstream community,
like conscious community. That's a good one, like that.
So Randy, here to give us a statement on Brock Obama, and
I'm just gonna take it on face value. I'm not gonna say I don't
have no reason not to believe him. But that's a very
inflammatory statement, but it aligns with his membership in
Skull and Bones, which you you said before about him being a
white supremacist? Well, the Skull and Bones is the
preeminent. It's the clients that, by the definition that we
use the white supremacy is the club. And for he's not in the
black man's skull and bones, what we call it the Boulais.
He's actually in Yeah, he's actually in the skull and bones.
So
the Illuminati, yes, yes.
So we had to, he has to have some understandings of how this
world has to work to be in to be in that group. So I think he,
this is why he's such a moderate because on one side, he's been
pulling in one direction to the right. But then to maintain his
cover or maintain his credibility, he has to let
herself fall by the left and NAS reason why he chose Chicago as
his home one of the blackest cities in America outside of
Detroit, maybe Washington, DC, um, his wife has strong roots in
the community. Her father has strong roots in the community.
So it just made sense. And then he needs this, like, start
building up on those credentials. You have over
there. I don't know how connected they last how long. It
is a connection.
I think there was a path. You know, there were people there
who saw a pathway within the in the state government, that would
be a pathway for Obama
to be dead, because I mean, the Democrats pretty much run
Chicago, we said this before. The pocket of power they have so
pretty much whoever they want to win certain elections. They can
give them the win when
Lori Lightfoot, that just proves it, doesn't it?
Yeah. So I think he had to ingrain himself in Chicago
society, and that brings him to Reverend Wright's church. Yes.
The controversy started with words spoken by the Reverend
Jeremiah Wright in his sermons. In one of them he blames America
for a long history of military policies that he says cause the
September 11 2001 terrorist attacks.
We bombed Hiroshima Nagasaki than the 1000s in New York and
dependents, and we never batted an eye.
Most Americans would not normally have heard about these
sermons without Reverend Wright's connection to
Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama. right is
the retired Pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ, where
Obama is a member of Obama has called right his spiritual
mentor and the man who brought him to Christ. But once the
fiery pulpit remarks were made public in March, and widely
disseminated on the internet, Obama condemned them. In a
speech he called Rights view of the US. It's profoundly
distorted. Reverend Wright commented on that Monday.
politicians say what they say and do what they do, based on
electability, based on sound bites, based on polls,
right says the black church is invisible and misunderstood by
what he called the dominant culture, meaning white America.
This is not an attack on Jeremiah Wright has nothing to
do with Senator Obama isn't an attack on the black church
launched by people who know nothing about the African
American religious tradition.
This I think this this, this revelation was one of the first
videos I believe, to kind of go what we then wouldn't even know
what to call it but viral on YouTube. And that's why it
hadn't addressed I mean, of course, there was some media
outlets playing it, questioning it. I think they already were
prepared for it. But people had questions. And so they had to
build something around that and smother this, I guess.
And with the right situation, this with that fear the angry
black man again, it's like, oh,
that's yes. Now I get the angry black man. But yeah, that that
scared people. That way. Right. Right. was talking. Yeah, that
scared people.
So I'm just saying so. Two things. He said there one. He
said that people don't understand the black church.
When I heard this. I was like, I heard that before. I mean, it
wasn't shocking to me. I think this is part of why people
congregate the way they do. Because certain truths are
certain things that are perceived to be true by that
community can be voice without repercussions. Right? It's like
okay, when I went to church, looking around, okay, it's not
black people. All right now. Well, we can talk. All right now
we can go it's the barbershop effect the same thing, right?
You can look around like Okay, now we can really let loose so
when he said that it didn't really I've never heard before,
I mean, for coming from that type of preacher because they're
not every preacher is like that, but you have those fire and
brimstone. People that bring that kind of narrative. Sure.
What I want to do is and this is all and we can do it on shows
like this. I want to listen to Reverend Wright's comments,
because all you heard was god damn America.
We never never we never really saw the full thing unless you
know, you know, even YouTube was was clip just to say the
horrible things. Yeah, that's, that's why we have a podcast so
we can roll it all out. So I
want to hear this almost a minute, 30 minute portion of
that sermon in context, so you can hear what he was actually
saying.
And the United States of America government, when it came to
treating her citizens of Indian descent, fairly, she failed. She
put them on reservations. When it came to treating her citizens
of Japanese descent fairly. She failed. She put them in
internment prison camps. When it came to treating the citizens of
African descent family, America failed. She put them in chains,
the government, put them on slave quarters, put them on
action blocks and blocks, put them in cotton fields, put them
in inferior schools, put them in substandard housing, put them in
scientific experience, put them in the lowest paying jobs, put
them outside the equal protection of the law kept him
out of their racist Bassiana higher education and locked him
into positions of hopelessness and helplessness. The government
gives in the droves, build bigger prisons passes a three
strike law and then wants us to see God bless America. No, no,
no, not God bless America. God damn America that's in the Bible
for killing innocent people. Damn America. Citizen. Human
Ah, okay.
Yeah, hopefully that puts this statement into context. He
didn't come out the bat saying God damn America. I would have
liked longer but
she's like fine, fine people on both sides. I mean, if you only
see a little bit and you don't get The whole context everything
that was said then you really miss out on what he was saying
which obviously how can you disagree with with with up until
he starts god damn America but even that makes sense in
context.
But in the cotton a full context I want to make a three minute
clip what he was saying was by the standard of the Bible, all
these kingdoms in the Bible that didn't do the people right God
took God damn right god damn them yeah and the literal term
he like fire and brimstone okay well like them on the face of
the earth this is
really telling and I wanted to add to that he was reading that
I heard him do a prompter flub twice. Yeah, yeah. And
I'm not sure he I'm sure he goes off prompter all the time.
But I mean, it's not like he's just a fiery preacher who comes
out of his, you know, straight from God to His to his mouse,
but he was reading it, but it's kind of it's kind of sad. I
mean, there comes the angry black man bit, I guess because
what he's saying was, is the total is totally on message for
what what what we've discussed what we see is the problem. But
it's, he had to go he was the he was he was he probably he was
probably, he was probably seen as an asset who would really
help and somehow, I'm just gonna go out on a limb. Maybe Fox
News, or one of these outfits just started slamming the crap
out of the god damn America, god damn America. And that became
the narrative and he had to go then he had to go, then he got
like, you got to go. Sorry. Obama even came to his defense a
little bit in the beginning if I recall.
He did it got too hot right now. I'm sure the Democratic Party
was like, gotta let him Yeah, you gotta let him go. But Brock
Obama went and be the person that he was politically if he
was anchored by that same Church in Chicago, so yeah, it's like
it gives him one hand takes the other How did he do that?
Reverend Wright? Was that how did he do it?
How did it How did what happened to Reverend Wright? Did he just
melt away into the background?
Yeah, he was. Nobody's above Barack Obama. So once he was bad
for Barack Obama, he was bad for black people. And he was cast
away now Reverend Wright has some interesting background
himself because he was like nurses something for one of the
presidents or something so it's like when you hear this man Um,
talk if you want to look that up so nothing is on his wiki page
but um, when you hear this man talk about god damn America it's
not like he's some ah a person that hates America or never
believed in it. I think when black man gets to a certain age
they get no disillusion. Like when I put all my energy into
being a good like the man was saying that the fear of the
angry black man like we did everything right. And you say
you you to be a man, you got to keep your word you said is equal
country. What's the problems? Right, right. But yeah, Reverend
Wright has government he was in the military. And he there's a
picture of him and one of the Presidents I can't Well, he
actually he actually served three presidents. He's with
three I know there was one for sure. But
John Johnson he sort of Johnson that's the nurse part. And he
also worked with Bill Clinton of course.
But that made it seem like this ferric
figure Wow. And you know how that's so interesting. I in my
mind, I'd written Jared and the Reverend Jeremiah first of all,
Reverend, so when Yeah, we don't really know where he's coming
from. When we know he knows what side the bread is buttered on
Lionel mommies,
they always give me a biscuit on my birthday.
But but can't can't deny that message. The message was right I
mean it would I bet I'm more convinced now than ever that he
was supposed to be a part of it and just screwed up had to go
yes, but this is brought going back to the right like I said he
had to walk the center line. Yeah. And it's you got the
revenue errors I mean, not miss river error but the bill error
handling now you got this angry Farrakhan type preacher saying,
God damn America, it's like, hey, like, slow it down. You
need to write a speech and things over well, not right.
You need to read one.
Yeah, well read one. So Brock Obama, I mean, excuse me, we
have a clip of Larry elders. He's talking about the sweet
path that was laid out for Barack Obama. I mean, we got to
consider you Larry elders. He's a conservative. So I mean,
obviously he has an obvious bone to pick with Brock Obama, but I
think this is a fair This is a fair assessment of how things
were laid out for Barry,
Obama misled Americans for his own political benefit. David
Axelrod writes in his new book, I'm just not very good at both.
Obama told Axelrod after Ron writes that he knew Obama was in
favor of same sex marriage. Axelrod admits to counseling
Obama to conceal his position for political reasons. And of
course, let's get back to it. So Obama then moves to Chicago, not
from there. He joined the trendy church because of the his desire
for political connections. And he decides to run for state
senate because the incumbent decided to run for another
office. she changes her mind decided to keep her office.
Obama said I'm sorry, I'm staying in the race. Obama
didn't challenge all the signatures he had to file to run
for reelection, and essentially got her kicked off the ballot.
So Obama won without any opposition. Then Obama decided
to challenge Bobby Rush for Congress, he primaries him and
Bobby Rush the foreign Black Panther kicks, Obama's but how
and why? Because he characterizes Obama is not truly
black from Harvard, taught at University of Chicago
Carpetbagger, not really from Chicago, he understand the
culture, your blood, Senator Obama even complained about it.
So what did Obama do when he got his butt kicked? He redesigned
his states in the district to make it more white. Were
affluent, more Jewish, less black, less poor. They explained
to me how racism is hurt this man. And then he decides to run
for US Senate. And he's not likely to win. But little by
little by little scandal and other things. Knock off the
front runners he runs. And he wins.
And that was Axelrod Axelrod brought out all the dirt on his
opponents.
Yeah, so that's rottenness gay. Having his true views on gay
rights. That whole Joe Biden coming out first instead of
brought that was all planned. Because Barack just couldn't,
for lack of better term and no pun intended, just come out of
the closet. You're saying and say, hey, you know, it's I'm for
gay marriages now. So it's like, Hey, Joe. You go out there, you
want to slip out of like, slipping
me right? You out me? And then I'm like, What am I gonna do?
Right? Well, that's not what's planned that my opinion. Well,
that's
that's an interesting take. Because the way I always saw it
was Joe was such a bumbling fool that he he spilled an axe. And
now, now that I'm reconsidering this, thank you. I think you're
right. And but you know what? They, Joe still probably wasn't
part of the plan. They probably whatever, Joe, whatever you do,
don't talk about the gay marriage thing. Joe. Don't talk
about Joe do not talk about the gay marriage thing. Tell Joe
talks about the gay marriage thing and boom, and Brock was
like, Oh, well, you know, yeah, you know, all the legislation
was ready that everything good to go. I'm gonna agree with I'm
gonna agree with and
it was real touch and go there and that reelection because the
black church because of it. Yeah. That was a it was a it was
a civil war in the black church over Obama.
over the over the same sex marriage?
Yes. Because it's like, are we really putting a bomb above
Jesus? I mean, that was the that was the where does he
hang in the trilogy on the wall? I mean, does he hang above MLK?
Does he hang right next to Jesus?
Well, JFK comes now. Obama goes on the go so you gotta you gotta
keep hear me. Okay, in bruh Jesus, hello, Minister. What
after that's the liberal feminist wall. On the General
black wall, is it still Jesus MLK and Obama, Barack Obama. But
that silver word did happen because it's like people that
are Bible based, not what you I don't care what Obama said. But
at the same time, it was where we the second term you know, we
gotta get the second term. This is really witnesses. When it
comes to this far, keep keep our eyes on the prize.
Yes shall go and push push. Let's go is important. He's
going to do stuff for us.
Yep. And then the role laid out for him. I want to say this one
thing is, I truly believe we saw Trading Places happen in real
life with Barack Obama and Senator Edwards from North
Carolina. I truly believe that's the only competition Brock Obama
really had and he really stalled his identity if you really look
at this really. Look, it wasn't not here. I must say Harry, it
was not how it was my off with the names today but Edwards he
had the perfect hair and he was like the JFK reincorporate on
reincarnated. Within that story came out Oh, John Edwards,
Edwards. They removed John Edwards.
Oh, yeah, they canceled him over a haircut. Remember that
they get a calcium over that. But they were looking for
anything to get rid of him. Oh, yeah. Because he stood in Brock
Obama's way he was in my bag.
He cheated on his wife. He still campaigned for funds had a $300
haircut and his airplane on the runway. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, they
will.
But prior to Brock Obama, he was the favorite to be President
really needed to be a Yeah, yeah. He does have
to be eliminated. He stepped right into his shoes and was
like, oh, yeah, I'm the guy for every every American. Yeah, I
really believe that. Not reason why I say trading places because
that's kind of how the movie went. Right? They took the one
guy, white guy. Yeah. Put it in. And they're like, see mortar
move. Exactly. $1. Oh, good point. So they talk about the
narrative of the gay rights. But this is another narrative that
they had to keep running. And that's the slave narrative, or
his connection to slavery. Yes.
His legitimacy
when it hit me, because I was like, Okay. That was all for
Obama. I saw where the money was coming from funding. And I was
like, they're not giving him that kind of money if he's gonna
be a real revolution, Neri type figure, because all the banks is
lined up and you're saying, the blank checks ready, like
whatever you need. And that's what I was like, oh, no, about
this guy. And just as a small story was, I was in Chicago,
actually, the day that he won the nomination. It was me and my
brothers were on a road trip. And it's just like, I have a
connection there. Right? Just like I was in Chicago. Sure.
That must have been great. Mom, I must have been a great we were
actually at this little bar. And it was like, everybody was just
happy. I mean, I never remember people being it was a black
establishment. So it was just like a sense of pride. So I get
how people get sucked in. But let me I just want to say at
point, but the slavery net weight hit me was, I remember
where he was. And I woke up the next morning, and I saw a
picture this little old lady and he said, from slavery to the
White House. It was like Obama and there have been no slaves.
But they were talking about,
Oh,
y'all, nudging me? knew what a nudge word by this felt this.
Oh, y'all are playing with us. So this whole narrative and then
people start getting hit like, he's not really one of us. I
mean, that's what brought me Rush was saying right, and when
he ran against him, he's not really one of us. So there was
this concerted effort to keep Brock Obama toxic slavery. And
if they couldn't do it through him, they did it through
Michelle.
This morning. We are learning fascinating details of Michelle
Obama's roots. today's New York Times traces her family's five
generation path from slavery to the White House. We're joined
this morning by genealogist Megan smolenyak who uncovered
Mrs. Obama's family tree. Good morning. This is what this is
almost a mystery. We we knew for certain that on her father's
side of the family that the trace back to slavery, but there
were rumors about on her mother's side. How did you make
the connection and who was the key person?
Well, I'll tell you I worked back methodically generation by
generation, but of all her ancestors. The one who called to
me the most loudly was when they Melvina, who was a great, great,
great grandmother. And she was just fascinating. For example, I
found a codicil on her from 1850, where she's first
mentioned, she's only six years old. And in that document, her
first owner, a fella by the name of David Patterson is leaving
her to his wife when he passes away or it
is I mean, there is the actual will and testament and this
little girl is named she's six years old. She's also listed in
another I mean, it is listed as a piece of property. What is
your value?
$475
Oh, man, that got it all. That's fantastic. From 475 to 500
million.
Yep, property, she's property but nobody questioned Michelle's
lineage to slavery. I mean, that wasn't a question. So they had
to keep digging. And then they thought a new discovery of
Obama's ancestry.
President Obama's story is well known his father from Kenya, his
mother from the United States, but ancestry.com says it has
mapped out the Obama family tree going back 11 generations with
stunning conclusion. Anastasia Harmon is the company's lead
family historian.
Our conclusion is that President Obama's first African American
president is the 11th great grandson of the first documented
enslaved African in what was
the link is made not from his father's side, but from his
mother and Dunham's lineage, she was connected back to a man
named John Punch, record show punch who lived in Virginia had
children with a white woman. Those children later became
known as the bunch family. The findings of the two year study
are now posted on the company's website. So how did the research
team figure this out? As we're
going, you know, from President Obama to his mom and grandmother
and great grandmother, you're looking for, like birth and
marriage and death records, all those kind of records as we get
farther back in time, though, they weren't kept or they've
been destroyed over time, the Civil War, a lot of records are
destroyed, fires, floods and things like that. So we start
looking at what we call surviving records, church
records, land records. And so when we get really far back into
like, your John bunch, the third who's born in 1680, he from here
on out we're looking at Land Records,
University of Maryland history professor I Oberlin says all of
this is perfectly plausible, because there was a time when
white indentured servants and black slaves freely intermingled
Oh, oh, as before Black Lives Matter.
Yeah. So the first black president, son of Stanley named
Barack Hussein Obama, is connected to the first slave
ever Exactly. In America. What are the chances white mama sighs
Thank you.
ancestry.com.
Maybe we'll get out of here with we have the time they will fill
in the pressure. They were they had they had
to do so. We gotta do it. Gotta find slavery. Yes. Wow.
But the magic world. And even his most ardent supporters
became disillusioned with Brock Obama and his whole do nothing
attitude for black people. And one of those being Michael Eric
Dyson. And so I have a clip from Michael Eric Dyson, then, and
then we're gonna go and see how he's become dissatisfied and
angry, angry black man. President Obama. So let's start
off with 30.
We began with Barack Obama's election to believe many did
that we're living in a post racial society. Vin Been there
done black over with it. And what happened, of course, is
that Barack Obama unexpectedly to some just evoked all of this
racial animus and hostility. You mentioned Dylann Roof, the young
white man who murdered nine people in that Charleston
church. He wrote a kind of crazed manifesto and in it he
said, You people are taking over basically I have to do this.
Yeah, that's
a whole nother story. Dylann Roof is manifesto of sorts. He
wrote this. Oh, convenient.
Yeah, that was Mayor Eric. My Apps give me Michael Eric Dyson,
then caping for Obama and Obama explaining away all his issues,
issues. Now let's Well, where are you at one,
what people were trying to get Obama to do? It ain't just about
legislation, use your voice and speak up. Not know he's that
office. Now. I love him. I want him to make as much money as you
can. But don't just make money. Make meanings speak. Sir. You
have the bully pulpit of the world before you you just can
accumulate chips and cash and make money and I ain't mad at
you make all the money you want. Make all the money you need get
your paper, but speak up about Donald Trump you out of office.
When you're in office, we made excuses for you. Oh my god, he
can't talk because they allow voting you ain't gotta be voted
on Office no matter where you're at. Obama we love you. I know a
lot of black people gonna be mad but speak up.
We feel it needs to do more.
Oh my God more. What is he done? What does he does name it? What
have you done? What have you done? Since you've been on the
office? You spoke up for one politician and said she should
be in office. You ain't helped out no black people. You You You
certainly you undermine the candidacy of Keith Ellison to be
head of the Democratic National Committee. Right DNC and get
your man in a man Perez is a good dude. But I'm saying you
undermined the black man. So the black man that people suffered
for who were black, and who said he should be supported
undermined the black man ain't got nothing to say about it. I
know your man. tough.
Tough. What's the word? I mean, this this has got to be a, this
has got to be a common question what you do in Baroque. Once you
say it anywhere, everybody,
as he only comes out when he's allowed to? I mean, because it's
clear. He's told what he can speak on. And when he can't
speakerphone. But Michael Eric Dyson did something tricky
there. Can you say? What have you done? And then he had to
think about like, oh, I cosign his whole year. Part of it.
Yeah. Right.
What have you done?
Yes, right. No, wait, I cosign. Lucky Eva. See,
you know what I always thought, I always thought that the plan
was is is going to sound weird. There was like a president of
the World slot for Obama. And that was, you know, just taking
you in like that. Yeah. So something along those lines, I
mean, it would have he was young enough, you know, he's young
enough to take 10 years, 15 years to to create something if
Hillary Clinton become president, we might have
actually seen Black Lives Matter turn out very differently. And
just look at some of the cities that are in on it. It's obvious
now, I mean, you don't leave people burning crap down to your
city for for eight weeks. So there was some I always thought
there was some plan and then Brock Obama would emerge and you
know, what? reaches out. Oh, well,
so you said you sound like that has expired. I think that's an I
said it before. I think this would this Oh, Joe Biden thing
is Joe Biden is the perfect proxy for Barack Obama to run
the country without taking any blame
right. Now. No, I'm with that. But I thought it was going to be
bigger. I thought it was going to be a bigger thing.
Yeah, he can't hear me. Yeah, he can't really do that. Because.
But he's, I think people disillusion me like, people down
with him. It's like he, he I mean, he's literally like being
canceled for I mean, to be honest with the people that got
him there. He can't activate them to go vote. So what good is
he?
That's it. That's all you got to say. He can't activate people to
vote. So he's just no good. He's new to her. Hi.
Talk to the last I mean, for Hillary Clinton. Yeah. Don't
clap. Oh, vote. You say?
My legacy. Yeah,
right. For my legacy. Yes. For me. But Eric Michael, Eric
Dyson, he didn't stop there. Where are you brought? What
reality that what do you think is that the what you see is
a lack of willingness
to engage. I mean, that's his personality. That's that who
winds to chill out personality. And that's also he's not he and
got the same kind of a ethos, pathos, pain, hurt, and agony
that black people have had. I'm not saying he's not black.
That's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying he truly black, he is
black and a lot of black people I know. But he didn't have that
existential misery growing up in the same way. He doesn't have
the same anger, necessarily that black people have that were
outraged by this stuff. He didn't fill it in his gut the
same way I'm not sending a black is blacker than black. I've
known Obama since 92, one of the blackest dudes I know. But what
I'm saying is that you're being black and getting to do with the
kind of blackness and the kind of experience that you that you
had and endure. And so you don't you don't feel driven to speak
out. You don't you're not LeBron James, who said, I'm gonna
represent for my neighborhood where I came from, regardless of
all the cash I get, and it's time to put the fire under Obama
to you out to office now, all the Negro excuses made for you
while you were in office, to, for us to say, Wait a second, if
you don't do something, wait to the last half of the second
term, he gonna do something. What do you do? And I'm saying
finally got on to criminal justice reform. Okay. And I'm
saying this out of love for a bum. I know, there's some Negro
bots out there. There's some Obama bots who can't hear
nothing. They just as bad. Let me tell you what, Obama bots are
just as bad as these Trump supporters who can't hear
criticism. If it's your guy, be willing to say, You know what, I
love him. I'm gonna ride with him right at that, but there's
some stuff he could have done better. Wow.
I heard Jay
was heard you talked in there. It was really funny.
What Eric, what happened is Eric leads to hitch his wagon to
Obama's train. And now the train is not moving off the rails. So
now it's like, well, where's the most lucrative angle on Obama?
And that's question to him. Where are you? You know, we get
all these excuses. And yes, you are saying and I'll say it for
you. Barack Obama is not black. I will say it. There you have
it. He keep tiptoe around it. And he realized he said it. He
had to walk it back for the next 1520 seconds. Well, I'm not
saying he's not black. He's
he's more black than black.
He's black and in the back of forest Whitaker's neck, I mean,
like. So he did that. So he didn't say anything Bobby Rush
did but then he's like, I went a little too far and had to back
it. No reason why I said black He's not black, if you want to
say Black is a creation of black ink, he didn't hold true to what
he was supposed to do. Right? And that's the throw black
people. Either the thought his weight behind their their
causes, even if he can't get them changed at least last year
for making an effort. He couldn't say reparations for
everything else every question like brought what you want for
much reparations. I mean, that kind of thing. So
you're so right. You're so and if he would have left saying the
only thing we haven't gotten done yet America is this? It
would, it would have been left lingering. And it would have
been a question that would have been on everybody's mind, but we
know that that's not the way it works. And always
how he talks is when it comes down to voting, and it's just
saying that he brought up brocco bomb Eric Dyson brought up
Lebron James. It's the same thing. They are funded by the
same group of people that you can speak on what we allow you
to speak on Yeah, but China No. Reparations No. If you want to
talk about putting silly names on black jerseys or whatever it
go go for voting go for it. But other things no. So they're
their own in a sense. I mean, it's no no easy way to put it in
to say and I mean, let me flesh out what I'm saying. So I don't
sound like Michael Eric Dyson backpedal, backpedaling on if
he's black and matte, and if he wants a minimum of two
definitions of black we laid out on the last show, yeah, if
you're talking about lineage, he's not black, right? He is
not. You're not a Das, which that is synonymous with black,
which they stretched it out to mean, whatever they want to now
with these two definitions, but like I said, I'm a really bad
but no, by the debt, two definitions. He is not black,
that was laid out, but not my definition that was laid out by
Miss colors in her own
Yes. And last China said that Dyson here that he can't just be
honest about it. And he had to double down because he kind of
flubbed it. It's kind of sad.
When he asked he, liberal universities, well, that's,
that's why we do a podcast. So we can actually say these things
and get down to some brass tacks.
And speaking of what we do, I think it's a good time to
explain people exactly what we do.
First, the white man and the black man have to be able to sit
down at the same table, the white man has to feel free to
speak his mind without hurting the feelings of that negro. And
the so called Negro has to feel free to speak his mind without
hurting the feeling of the white man, then they can bring the
issues that are under the rug out on top of the table and take
an intelligent approach to get the problem solved. What's the
only way we'll ever do it?
Yes. And the only way that will ever work is without corporate
interest. And pharmaceutical companies wanting to advertise
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And specifically,
I know shooter. Yeah, honestly, every time see when it's kind of
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We've said it in jest several times on this show. And other
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are we intersectional. That's the question.
I don't know. What are we Adam?
Well, don't tell anybody what we really are. No,
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Okay, we're back and we're we're salt and pepper. We're ebony and
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okay, we're gonna leave it up to our producers who will have to
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They're studying it they're doing the work
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number Mo, have you, you have expanded my mind and thinking on
the topic of race and human relations through American
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I could articulate what I saw as the contradiction, but could not
elaborate on the forces behind it. Your ability to weave
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As I said before, Brock Obama received the most friendly
coverage and even downright ignoring case stories that could
have been damaged to him. And I have a couple of examples of
this in the next couple of sets of clips. Okay, um, I guess the
first one, let's just go ahead and hop in Malia gets an
internship.
Sadly, the Obamas have officially moved out of the
White House after eight years of incredible leadership. The most
impactful first family we've seen in years is preparing to
transition into life outside of the office, and that includes
the girls to overnight news broke that Barack and Michelle's
oldest daughter Malia has just declared a major internship with
famed Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein after the family
finishes vacationing in Palm Springs. And before Malia heads
off to her freshman year at Harvard, she will spend some
time right here in New York City, learning all about what
independent film has to offer. Harvey Weinstein and his brother
Bob, who raise money for the Obama campaign have one of the
most successful independent film companies in the world. Their
credits include Shakespeare in Love The King's Speech, and most
recently, Jay Z's new series time the Kalief Browder story,
so it's safe to say that Malia will be in good hands. We are
saddened by their inevitable egg exit from the White House, it
will be awesome to cheer on the Obamas when they have half the
stress and double the freedom to accomplish anything they can
dream.
I don't think we need to even say anything about that. I think
story speaks for itself.
Have you heard of this before? I mean, my
I recall one story quite a while back that that I didn't that she
was going to work there or something but it when me too
happened? No, that was not brought up.
Isn't there 16 individual in the independent intelligence
agencies. behest of the President, the President and I'm
sending my daughter to work somewhere.
Trust me, you might check it out first.
What is this guy Harvey all about? Hey, in as is known as it
was Oprah secret in Hollywood that he was hansy hit at? I
mean, at best or at worst, however you want to put it
there? Yeah, this is not
this is not the guy. No, wow.
She's gonna be in good hands.
Well, you know that. You know, I always stick to the to the rumor
that both the Obama kids are not Brock's kids. One is Stevie
Wonder's kid and the other one is Scottie. Pippins. Kid. That's
what I've always said that.
Wherever you see the pictures of the two. If you see the pictures
of the two people that he apparently posed to be their
biological parents. Yeah, no, it's very damning. It's very
it's very damning. But I'm not gonna dabble in those kinds of
conspiracies, cuz I'm gonna say my keep my powder dry for other
things. Um, but your daughter going to work for Harvey
Weinstein. And this has to be 2016. Yeah, there was already
rumblings. She's about Harvey and 16. Right?
Yeah. Oh, man. Can you believe that?
But they let you know they're disgusted by the behavior
behavior of Harvey Weinstein.
President Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama say they are
quote disgusted by the behavior of Harvey Weinstein who was
accused of sexual assault and raping several women. A portion
of their joint statement says Michelle and I have been
disgusted by the recent reports about Harvey Weinstein. Any man
who demeans and degrades women in such fashion needs to be
condemned and held accountable regardless of wealth or status.
They also say that we should celebrate the courage of women
who have come forward to tell these painful stories. And we
all need to build a culture including by empowering our
girls and teaching our boys decency and respect so we can
make such behavior less prevalent in the future. Their
statement comes after critics accused the first couple of
staying quiet about the Weinstein allegations was
dropped last week in a report in The New York Times. And then of
course, yesterday, The New Yorker dropped an even more
explosive piece as well. Weinstein has been a major
democratic donor. In 2012. He contributed $71,000 to Obama's
campaign, their oldest daughter Malia recently intern at the
ones that Weinstein Company. Weinstein was also a prominent
supporter of Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign. She also
finally released a statement saying she was shocked and
appalled by the revelations said the behavior cannot be
tolerated.
Here is how a normal father would respond somewhere between
this report 2016 And today 20 May 20, at some point, maybe by
myself, maybe with my wife, I'd say, I was so shocked when I
learned this. And I could not believe that my daughter had
been impossible danger. You would have to say something
about this. But no, yeah. And they
acted like they didn't know what then Michelle says we need to
believe all women and their stories. Why didn't they listen
to the former White House photographer?
He threw a lot of people come and go at the White House as
well. What did you think for instance, when Harvey Weinstein
visited?
There was a very, very tough moment my entire body was
screaming. I'm not sure if Australian viewers are aware.
But shortly after the New York Times article last year, I came
forward and told my story of Harvey Weinstein and my
knowledge of Him in the film business. And when he came to
the White House with Michelle Obama for a Broadway Tribute
Event, I was my body was screaming inside and I wanted to
shake Michelle and go no, no, no, don't do this. I've got to
know.
Me, I said no. Did you ever you certainly talk about how your
skin crawled when you saw Harvey Weinstein walking with Michelle
Obama? Did you ever were you ever able to warn them about the
the sort of company they were keeping?
Actually, they came up recently with one of her aides. I said to
I said to them just recently up to the Michelle Obama, they
contacted me, I said, you know, I tried to warn Michelle and
they said, well, when? When and how did you do that? Then I
said, I spoke to her first lady press office, both in the east
wing. And I spoke to President Barack Obama's office on the
west when and I don't know why those messages didn't get to
them directly. But I was very surprised and disheartened that
Harvey Weinstein was there. I thought it was hypocritical of
the first lady at the time. I guess she didn't know what
everyone else knew. And I was very concerned when, of course,
as it started, Malia started interning at, at Miramax so that
the Weinstein Company
I had never heard this, this woman, this is great. And I've
done a lot of work on researching these people. That's
fantastic. Well, of course, this all leads into some of my
favorite topics.
And then the two things that distract me is just you can't
ignore these two facts. One, Barack Obama being the leader of
the free world, you have all this access to all these
intelligence agencies. You can't have my look into Harvey. And
then your wife is BFFs with Oprah, who has the intelligence,
entertainments intelligence agencies, I mean, TMZ and I'm
sure she has, she has most everywhere. Oh, you can just
pick up the phone and say, hey, oh, what's up? Yeah. Yeah,
Harvey. What's up with him? How is he?
Yeah, I'm checking on behalf of my daughter who I love so much.
And I'm gonna send her off to intern. What do you think? Oh?
And why didn't Oh, say hey, Michelle. I don't really want to
stay in that thing. But you might want to let her intern
have it for foundation.
USA ID anything but
that conversation never had. This is? Yeah, that's, that's
awesome. I'll talk about in the media. And then you have these
women coming forward today want her and yeah, it was well known
news, but nobody reports on that. Now this next topic, I
wrestled with it. I was in and it was out. It was in it. It was
out. Well. I was like,
before you lead into the topic. I'm glad you left it in. Because
I worked with this person on her own show in New York when she
was on Channel Five. But it was syndicated nationally. I really
had an affection for her. I think we got along
professionally extremely well. And she had two modes. Really
three with me. She turned on an extra kind of like charm, which
I which was very endearing. And I played right into that. Of
course she's older than I was. But if she was saying something
truthful to you, like in between a commercial break? She had she
meant it. She was very, very straight laced. I'm talking
about Joan Rivers. Take it from there.
Now you take it from here.
Okay. And so So Joe No no, it's good
hardware like okay, this is what I was talking about about that
hater. I mean that hater cloud
because I've done this many times so people can hate me for
this if they want it's not a problem, right. So Joan Rivers
was was asked, and she was very in tune with if there is such a
thing, the gay community, she's been around she's showbusiness,
the theater, television, movies, it's very, very, very long
history, very connected woman. And also very intuitive because
she went through a lot of tragedy, and she could feel
people understand where they were coming from, she turned
everything into a joke. And that's how she dealt with her
life, I think. But there was a rumor, and I can't honestly
remember where
you just had to play. It just says this. I'm not shying away
from it. I'm this. Well, that would there was definitely I
believe she said it and then I can't believe it was not
covered. That's what I'm saying.
So well. I think it was it was was it for Entertainment Tonight
or or who
was at or a team's? I think teams TMZ might not aired it, I
think. Yeah.
And I think Howard Stern played it a lot, which, which is
probably where I heard it first. But these rumors have been
around for quite a while. And when Joan Rivers said this, to
me, it meant something more than to the average person because I
knew that this was Joan in not joking mode.
And this wherever
you made you made a ton of news officiating the wedding in New
York yesterday. Is
this like, is this like a new cottage career?
I should do very well, because I don't show and
do you think that the country will see the first the United
States to see the first gay president or the first woman
president
Obama. So let's just show is a trend. I'm sorry. She's a white,
transgender, we own them.
Oh my gosh.
Now she had just officiated, I think the the, the state or the
city's first same sex marriage?
Yeah, I got I got a clip on that too, just to support that she's
not some homophobe or saying it because that's where they should
be paying it. When you say something against and you're
saying the great Barry. But what struck me is the silence around
new story. It was not. We've saw the email where people were
being rude towards Michelle Obama. And it was like, some
marriage some hick town sends an email criticizing Michelle Obama
and it made like national news. How dare you, Joe, right. You
have Joan Rivers come out. And she says it so nonchalantly that
and one thing we have to take into account was that cover of
Newsweek, they have first gay president, Barack Obama with the
rainbow Halo. When I heard this, I'm like, that's not what they
meant. Wishes. Like you said, the rumor and rumors and the
conspiracies and those kinds of things went around. And it's not
something not something that I can't substantiate, even though
there's so some smoking guns around the activities of men
dying in Chicago, mysteriously. Hitler's in
the Larry Sinclair business and all about
that, too. I didn't, I didn't want to dabble in that I wanted
to come at the angle of this is how the media protects one of
their assets. And if you want to use the Operation Mockingbird as
a, as a friend at work, the framework, they're protecting
one of their real assets, not like quote unquote, assets,
right? But then, Joe, I mean, Joe, she just said, Oh, yeah.
And then she says, Okay, we have him Brock. And I'm like, okay,
and then she doubles down like, oh, oh, Michelle. She's a
trained me, but that's okay. Don't worry about it. I mean,
it's all right. But she didn't say it like me harshly. And then
the interaction opens up with the reporter referencing the
same set of six marriage that she had just done previously,
which I have a clip on
7pm Jones at Barnes and Noble, she gets a standing Oh, and a
surprise request. The comedian who's an ordained minister was
asked if she would marry these two things.
And it's wonderful. You're my second husband
Joan Rivers, a force of nature who was one of a kind Thanks for
the memories Jones.
Yeah, yeah, it didn't end very well. With the with this
comment.
It seems like Joan knew it may have been coming from her last
show that she did.
Our top story though is the passing of Joan Rivers can her
voice really be gone? Funeral Services for her will be this
Sunday in New York. Remember it says, are pouring in from all
over the world. For this comedy legend her family says the 81
year old died peacefully Thursday in a New York Hospital
summing up a legendary career in comedy rivers daughter and co
star Melissa Rivers that this statement my mother's greatest
joy in life was to make people laugh, although that is
difficult to do right now. I know her final wish would be
that we returned to laughing soon. Well, as you know,
virtually no subject was off limits for rivers, including her
own mortality. Take a listen to this clip now from her final
stand up comedy performance reporting just one day before
she ended up in the hospital.
If I could die Do you understand how lucky you would be? Do you
honestly, you'd have something to talk about to the rest of
your life. We invited you there.
What did she say at the end? I couldn't hear it.
She says she's talking about her dying. She's like you were
there. You know, I mean? It would be big news and you would
know. But this is one day before she goes in for surgery. Yeah,
very simple surgery. Very simple surgery
and routine.
routine and then they're just they honestly says that she
didn't have to die.
There are startling new details emerging from the federal
investigation into the death of Joan Rivers. The findings have
angered her daughter Melissa. Yeah, Chris
Wragge. He has the latest from outside the clinic where a new
report says terrible mistakes were made. It's this simple.
Joan Rivers did not have to die.
There's always a risk. Whenever you go under, you've got to say
maybe this won't work. Or maybe I won't even come out of it is a
major life choice.
This just released 22 page report include some disturbing
claims about what was supposed to be just a routine throw
procedure for the comic legend back in August. Among the
mistakes investigators report the clinic failed to get Jones
informed consent for each procedure performed and failed
to identify deteriorating vital signs. And this is the part that
is just astounding. The report says that while Joan was
sedated, a staff member quote, took pictures of the surgeon and
a patient with his cell phone.
Oh, man. Oh, I remember all this. It was very
proof of it hit
Send me my bitcoin. Yeah, that's bad man. I was shocking to me
when she died. It's like what? And then because I didn't hear
about the Michelle thing until after
me either me and Monica say Oh, this is what like she died
mysteriously. And all of a sudden, you know, what shocked
me was that the news didn't freak out on her and counsel
her. She should have definitely been canceled. To say the first
black. First Lady is a transgender. I mean, you had the
gay kid, the LGBT community should have been outraged. The
black community should have been outraged. The feminists should
have been outraged. You know, the
machine the machine didn't the machine suppressed it the
machine didn't let that happen.
Waste when they don't talk about something that can generate a
lot of revenue as mean it's bigger. It's much big money much
bigger.
We're just looking so yeah, it was Entertainment Tonight. I
think they might have had, they might have shown no, I'm just
looking at the news. If I can see any historical new stuff.
It's really it only aired there I think and that was it. Done on
TMZ
covered it and they kind of poo pooed it away like oh, that's
just John Van Jones. Yeah, that's why I heard it on team
the TMZ clip, not what you can't find anymore. That's the other
thing like these clips are disappearing. To find this clip
was hard. I had to go inside of a bigger like, video that had it
in the clip embedded. And I had to snip it there but no, the
clips are gone. They're gone. They've been scrubbed. Really.
And don't ever get it twisted that Obama is gangster. Super
gangster. And the reason why I say that is 41
and Joan Rivers her daughter Melissa revealing tonight she
received a handwritten note paying tribute to her late
mother that note from President Obama writing quote, not only
did she make us laugh, she made us think
she made us think
yes A handwritten note from Obama. He just called you gay,
your wife trainee? Oh, yeah. She made us laugh. She made her
think a little too much. Do you
remember? Do you remember the time that was? President Obama
was speaking. And I think there might have been a war memorial.
Any any any? He's referring to you know, Mike and I, we,
yeah, Michael and Michael. He did it on several occasions. But
like I said, I don't want to I don't have proof either way, on
what she is or isn't. But that fact that wasn't covered in the
news and that he follows up with a handwritten note to Melissa
River. She made us laugh, she made this thing. That's like a
stone cold, like gangsta moonlight. Did it come wrapped
in like a dead fish or something?
Like, like, I stir and then I sent the kid a note. That is
really I love your thinking Mo.
No, it's just but and I want to say this before I play this last
clip. This is the hill Obama chose to die on metaphorically
or figuratively. And that's the transgender bathroom,
the bathroom. That's right. This and
I want to say enraged, but just that was the tipping point for
black people. It's like, come on brah. Like, I mean, you did DACA
you did gay marriage before us. I mean, the guy said before us,
you did all these other things. And then your last year to
transgender bathrooms. That's the one you want it that's the
one you wanted, not reparations not so the freeing people. So
the logic the logical conclusion is this is the decision made by
a man who has a different cultural history than was
portrayed. Yes. But and different
values you parade around as black when you play it out as
black that has certain
racist wishes. Yeah, sure. And
that's what you heard upset. Upset. MICHAEL ERIC DYSON, like,
that's kind of what he was saying like, bro, come on. I say
something. So little bit made.
Gray. Well, no, actually, I'll ask you if he gets an extra. I
don't. Okay. There may be some reasonings behind why he's so
sympathetic to this demographic, and that's Obama's ex nanny.
66 year old EBU walks the streets of her Indonesian slum.
She lives in a tiny room. subsisting on money she earns
from washing clothes, EVs, meager existence belies a
startling truth. She was once nanny to President Barack Obama.
She's always been proud that the person she cared for drove to
school and cooked for ended up being number one in the world.
The future president was just eight years old at the time. In
the late 1960s. His mother and Donna married her second husband
and moved to Indonesia. Dunham was impressed by EVs cooking
ability, and offered her a job for two years he lived with
Obama and his family in this Jakarta home. But she thinks the
young Obama didn't know one fundamental truth about her.
born a man. He identifies as a woman. He says and Donna might
have known she was transgendered, but she never
dressed as a woman in front of Youngberry Edie has struggled
through life, saying she's never found suitable works until Obama
and his family left the country in the early 1970s. But she says
Obama's election gave her a reason to feel proud for the
first time and a longtime Matt Friedman, Associated Press.
Wow. So thank you for that, too. I didn't know that story there.
Damn, you. Damn, you allow that listen, Maurice. You gotta stop
this. What do you what do you think the strategy was, for
whoever is was controlling Obama and every president is
controlled one way or the other. This current one is probably
more controlled by military than anything. What do you think the
strategy was? What Why choose those particular issues to go
out with and not? I mean, sorry to put it just toss a bone. I
mean, why not a single thing? What do you think the idea was
there?
Well, if you look at it from from a Marxist mindset, it's all
about the conflict.
So keep the conflict going and just add some LGBTQIA PK to we
got
a good cost thing. I want to say this correctly. The LGBT
community was sitting back on their laurels, celebrating the
marriage thing. So it's like now at another level because
you didn't win nothing.
You know what's in here? Oh wow.
Sisters and brothers have their own bathroom. There is no
victory
well that of course is not the end of the Barack Hussein Obama
story. The berry so Tonto story this story will continue and I
look forward to unpacking whatever comes our way with you
mo because I think this a lot well, I'm not gonna say it
because it's your it's your tagline to say
yes, pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal
itself. And that
is our motto ladies and gentlemen Moe thank you so much
at a good time man as always,
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