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Hey mo facts with Adam curry for
July 25 2020. This is episode

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number 44. And we did it. It's
Saturday and we're dropping.

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Can't believe it. Am I doing

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dropping on a snare? I'm doing
fine. Yeah. Dropping out. Oh,

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how about yourself?

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Yeah, I'm doing real good. It's,
it's been. I guess it's been a

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pretty good week. And yeah, I've
done my homework been I've been

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doing the work, which means I
watched all all the episodes of

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The Last Dance about the Chicago
Bulls, Michael Jordan and I feel

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I've I've been schooled. Now I
know what's going on. I also

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realized that when it comes to
podcasting, I'm really you know,

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the Michael Jordan of
podcasting, which makes you the

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Scottie Pippen.

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I'll be that no, you're not
you're not the Michael Jordan of

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podcasting you the Naismith? Oh,

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I mean, you know if I can take
all that.

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Majority, and he only played
well, what a fantastic

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what a fantastic documentary and
the whole time. It's in your

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face right there. Why is this
man successful? Because he had a

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supportive dad. I think that's a
huge part of it. And you can see

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all these guys, all these
abnormal Pippin had, you know, a

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little different situation, but
holy crap, man, dads, that's the

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common denominator. That

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contrast we had to do that
contrast between LeBron James

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who didn't have that right,
strong, Father structure. And

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presidents compare it to Michael
Jordan, who did that that has to

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be discussed down the line
somewhere, because there's a

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huge contrast there. And I'm
glad you brought that up. Yeah,

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it

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was it was fascinating to see I
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Speaking of father figures, this
next topic we cover today is

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going to be an influential part
of the story as well.

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Okay, let me roll out the wheel.
Hold on, everybody has time to

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spin The Wheel of topics where
it stops. Nobody knows. Well,

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obviously Moe kind of knows. But
let's see what we're going to be

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discussing on today's episode of
moe facts with Adam curry. This

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is episode number 44. The topic
is Barack Hussein Obama. Okay,

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we haven't done a full episode
on Barack Obama, have we?

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No, we haven't. And it's this do
Thomas show. 44? Yeah, he's the

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44th president. So coming off
the last episode. And coming out

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the last episode of The Marxism
in community organizing I

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thought it was only appropriate
that we take a official deep

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dive into into the topic which
you can't cover him in one

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episode alone.

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No, no, it's his his rise was so
incredible how it worked in

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Chicago and everything and
forget Hawaii and before that,

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but it's really quite a tale
that it down as it's been

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written about by many people. I
don't know how many people

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actually know the true story or
the outside of the narrative

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that we've all heard.

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If you just take it on his face
day, you got a man here named

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Barack Hussein Obama elected in
a time where America was

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fighting a war in the Middle
East. And he's so called Black

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by, you know, the how loosely
they use the definition but has

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no lineage to slavery,
apparently, or how it's

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reported. And he has a mom named
Stanley. So I mean, like, if you

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tell me if you tell me that's
going to be your 44th President.

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I'm taking the money against
that happening. So right Right,

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right here. Yeah, on that. So
get into I guess we need to just

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drive on dive right into da da
das city of Brock Obama one.

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On tonight on hardball, we bring
you a special report on the

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audacity of Barack Obama,
covering the remarkable journey

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we've witnessed of him through
the Obama erg. It's looked back

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at how the President has
conducted himself in the public

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eye, how he evolved in office
and how he overcame the many

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challenges that stood in his
way. We were there from the very

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beginning, of course, when as a
relatively unknown State Senator

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Barack Obama delivered that
rousing keynote address at the

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Democratic Convention up in
Boston back in 2004.

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There is not a liberal America
and a conservative America,

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there is the United States of
America. There is not a black

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America and a white America and
Latino America and Asian

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America. There's the United
States of America.

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first glimpse we all knew I did.
I thought we're witnessing

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something special here. Here was
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was finished with that amazing
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Oh, his leg was tingling.

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I have seen the first black
president there. No reason I say

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that is because because I think
the immigrant experience

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combined with the with the
African background, combined

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with the incredible education,
combined with his beautiful

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speech that every politician
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Speech was a piece of work.

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Hey, yeah. Yeah, you know, it
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that particular convention. That
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they gave press credentials to
bloggers. And Obama was just

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swamped swamped. He did a lot of
work with the bloggers in the in

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the press room, it was, that was
definitely a part that has not

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been discussed very often.

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And two things he said in that
clip, I rang the bell for

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Warren, he talked about the
roadblocks that Obama faced. I'm

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not sure like, election was not
talking about once he got in

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office and the pushback that he
received there. But during the

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election, I don't remember
remember any roadblocks. I mean,

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everything was like laid out for
him perfectly by the press by

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everything else. To step right
into the position. And two, he

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said about the background, and
he even had the cash to sell

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because he said the immigrant
rat ground Yeah, African,

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African American. Couldn't say
African American spirits. Just

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that's not technically true.
Right now about the speech, he

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gave it the Nanyuan just give me
the 2004 convention. My man,

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Nene fast. My one of my best
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We were rapping at the time. And
he wrote a ROM it was like,

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Brock Obama's gonna be the next
president or something like

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that. And we looked at each
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this is like in Oh, four when he
wrote this and why. And that

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might. So

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and here's a clip.

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No, but we just lit when he said
that. And it was like, Yeah, I

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was like, you might be right.
After that. It was just like, he

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came up on the radar. And boom,
it was off to the running. Yeah,

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it was once he came out and Oh,
four. But I say I said this

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before, and I'll say it again
for this show. But for all four

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I'd never heard Obama. No,

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never, ever unless you knew
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or really Chicago politics.

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But that's not the that's not
the point I'm making. I got you.

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I had every copy of ebony,

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I see what you're saying. Right?
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we watch BT faithfully, teamsnap
that used to come on Saturday

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mornings, all these shows and
never in my life heard of Barack

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Obama. And then he drops out of
the sky. He

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just popped out of the womb.

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In 2004, like who is this guy,
but nobody questioned his

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credentials. It's just like, who
is in his like, Oh, he's our

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best shot to get a black
president. So everybody just

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kind of got behind him.

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Yes. And that is that's kind of
cutting it short. Everybody.

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Just everyone just Oh, all
right. Is that what happened?

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Everyone went? Oh, yeah. All
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Well, they gave him the swag
test. I mean, that was the term

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at the time used. I mean, I'm
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whatever. You want to use now.
More, more recent slang, but he

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had the swag test. He had the
Bob, he gave the proper depth,

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you know, black wife, black
kids, right? Like, he goes down

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to checks. And then he didn't
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normally have with somebody of
his credentials. So it was it

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was it was perfect. I mean, we'd
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and Yale and no skull and bones.
You don't talk in that way.

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It's the right, right. Okay, so
he checks a lot of boxes right

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off the top. He checks every
box. How about how about your

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mom? What did your mom say when
she first saw Obama?

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Everybody loved him. Yeah. I
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mean, I can't I can't explain
it. It was just he was a foot. I

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don't think people can really
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he we talked him bigger than
Martin Luther King. We're

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talking bigger than Michael
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fame, but overnight, it just
came out of nowhere. So and was

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there really want people to
understand that? Was there a

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discussion about his so called
blackness, in your family or

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with your friends? Oh, no, you
can't question him. Once he hit

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the scene. It was like he was
above questioning because he was

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like, this is our best shot and
when I say us Not me, per se, my

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generation. I think it was the
odor. I hate to use this term,

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but boomers. Yeah, they were
like, This is what we fought

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for. This is what we, even
though a lot of them didn't

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participate in the civil rights
movement, it was like, This is

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what the whole movement was
about. Yeah.

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That makes total sense. This was
the Yeah, this was the

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culmination the crescendo of it
all. This is where this is where

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we want to have, right?

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Correct. So let's get into
Audacity to

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three short years later, we got
it at the place for Abraham

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Lincoln once stood in
Springfield, Illinois, to hear

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the future president kick off
his campaign, coldest day of the

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year

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in the shadow of the Old State
Capitol, where Lincoln once

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called on a house, divided to
stand together, where common

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hopes and Common Dreams still
live. I stand before you today

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to announce my candidacy for
President of the United States

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of America.

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I think it's so important we
look back and catch the dynamic

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of this the wonderful trend of a
guy who comes from really

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nowhere state senator, basically
is on the roadmap, states and

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before he was even elected as a
senator from Illinois, out of

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nowhere, magic, how did it
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How is it possible he's an
American Great, rare, Merc?

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That's not legit. Observation. I
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these people. You know, I mean,
I follow the policy even as a

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young person, just a little bit
of the give people a little bit

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of understanding about where I
come from. I was like, a junior

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Freedom Rider. Seventh grade
treasurer. And I have to tell

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that story at another time. But
I guess I mean, I guess I can

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give a short version of it.
Yeah. Seventh grade, I went as

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Treasury for my school. So I
guess being a black person and

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winning that and being the
treasurer of seventh grade, that

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put a flag on me to say like,
really? No, I'm serious. I mean,

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I was like, kind of, um, they
brought me into the guidance

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counselor's office. Like, we
want you to be a genuine Freedom

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Rider. And they put us on a bus
and we dressed up and kind of

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went like did like cosplay for
silver rights. And this is kind

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of the insight, but I always
veered away from that kind of

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thing. Like, it's just strange.
seems strange to me. Because

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when we went to these functions,
they're pushing all kinds of

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other stuff like, women showing
you how to put condoms on what

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bananas, I'm like, what post we
were in. Freedom, right? When

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you were seven or eight. No,
seven grades?

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Oh, seven grade. Oh, sorry. All
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I'm pro black. I mean, like, pro
black. I mean, like, my dad,

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like what sets them great. So
there's about a right time on

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that at 13. He gives us he gave
us all a copy of Malcolm X out

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about the autobiography of
Malcolm X. But like he's here

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and like some weight. And I'm
like, Yeah, let's go get you

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know. Let's go get our freedom.
Right. And we get here and it's

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all these liberal looking back.
Now hindsight, it's all these

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liberal policies they're pushing
in agenda was this was this

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strain, which is

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a white school, black school,
obviously mixed. What was the

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degree it was mostly?

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Well, Durham is half a half from
Durham from Columbia. So I would

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say it was maybe 6040 to 6535.
But at these functions, it was

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majority

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white people telling you how to
put a condom on a banana. Um, it

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minorities. So you'd had a
female it had to be female, but

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a lot of females but yeah, it
was just weird. I mean, just get

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people inside. So I kept up with
politics. I mean, long story

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short, I was kind of into
politics and new who ever Black

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was running. And Barack Obama
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right? Well, that's the that's
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you go freedom. Yeah, Jr. Freed.

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Me, man. They try to
indoctrinate me early. What

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happened?

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We? We have to Yeah, we have to
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Why the programming failed on
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Because I was taught to think
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Pretty sure that's part of it.

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Guess we can get away from that
long story and get back into

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Audacity? Three,

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Mike, I think sometimes we got
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at least maybe a decade before
we can even look back and see

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him Hall. What do you think of
Obama? Because we're gonna go

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right through this the next 20
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you say now?

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Well, I think you have to begin
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terrific chief of state. This is
someone who, with that family

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and that stature and his
persona, represented this

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country well Around the world
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wonderfully over this country in
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thing is that, you know, we're
so pressed right now to have

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sort of an instant read on
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future generations will see him.
It's gonna depend so much on

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what follows. I know it's
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say Donald Trump turns out to be
an effective president and the

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economy is looking wonderful in
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Trump goal, if Trump goes up,
that's not going to be good for

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Obama.

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Oh, there we, yes. And who do
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Microsoft? I missed this last
night. Sorry. I'm sorry. It was,

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there we have it. Yeah. The
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if Trump is successful, no good,
then it makes Obama look even

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worse, and it makes the media
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part of the motive of keeping
the Obama and I say a product

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for a reason because let's look
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as MLK. I'm not talking about
Noman here now, a large portion

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of this show we're going to look
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Key is a product of our control
mechanism. I will say this as a

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politician, you probably can't
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Barack Obama. One from one of
history's best Absolutely. From

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the just how to work a crowd and
just the appearance in the

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family life and carefree comedic

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timing. A pro perfect comedic
timing so good. And

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women love them because he's not
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I've heard you say this. He's
not so attractive that he makes

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me uncomfortable. Women have a
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lot of women's fantasy sexual

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fantasy. Definitely. Yes,
definitely a lot of white women

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sexual fantasy and densenet
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understand that I get

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that and I will say all women
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he was like that dad to point to
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you're a doofus. Look at your
stupid man with your wife

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beater. Be like Barack. Exactly.
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us. Married men, Barack Obama
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So hopefully, we understand part
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always protect Obama and, and
bash Trump because they, the

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media got Obama elected. Let's
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that he was the media's
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everything they could to
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his way. And this and we're as
we're here later in the show,

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this did this didn't just start
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So now we have to get into a set
of throwback clips, because they

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laughed lavished all this praise
on him. And this guy Michael,

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the last guy that spoke did this
weird thing of we really need to

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wait a decade before we judge
Obama. Yeah. Because if you look

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at the facts,

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Ray find anything. Exactly

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is nothing really there
especially for black people, or

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so called black people or quote
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let's get into this next set of
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we'll start with Tavis Smiley
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This week while we were
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Mr. Smiley about what's changed
over the last decade. As Martin

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Luther King Day approaches on
Monday. We started by talking

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about what areas if any, are
better for black American now

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than they were before Barack
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I'm sad to report that in every
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category, black America has lost
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every major economic category,
we've lost ground. So this book

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comes out as you said in 2006.
So clearly, this book was out

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before Obama shows up to win
2008. So the book was never

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about Barack Obama then this 10
year update is not about him

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now. But it is true that over
these last 10 years, most of

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that on his watch black America
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economic indicator categories.

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It didn't take long for Tavis
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And this is when Tavis Smiley
lost his position and in black

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eight, yes, you you win against
the goose that lays golden eggs.

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Yeah. And he told the truth and
he received so much backlash.

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And like you said he just
vanished. He was pretty much

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done. He got sued. Yeah, for so
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unpleasant workplace atmosphere,
hostile workplace and a whole

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bunch of stuff. And so then PBS
dropped him and then from there

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just went downhill.

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And he was labeled as one of the
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black community. Really a hater.
Hater. You're just the Obama

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hater. You're just a hater. You
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he's that to this day.

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Surely that's changed for some
people that they don't think not

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that anymore or is he still was

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subconsciously when putting
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subconscious I mean, of course,
he was conscious about thought

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about it, but it was a looming,
let me use that word a looming

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thought is like don't come
across as just a hater. All

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right, we need we need to have
fun. No, it's serious because

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I'm with you. This is a test you
can do to see what the who

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you're talking to bring up Obama
and see the Obama test right?

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You have the you have the obat,
which he never did anything

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wrong and keep they'll even
they'll go as far to as explain

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away why he didn't get anything
done with the first two years

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when he had, you know,
everything lined up for him.

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They'll make excuses for that.
But at the same time, they'll

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say he's the greatest thing ever
happened to us. So those Oh,

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bots. Yeah. And then you have
those people as well. He was

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good optics. You know?

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It's interesting. I was talking
with the keeper about this just

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last night. My coincidence. I
remember when, and I probably

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have a clip from it somewhere.
For the first two weeks after

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Obama was elected the first time
the police were everywhere,

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saying hey, we're gonna be
really on the watch anyone says

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any racist shit, we're coming
after you. They were like super

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protectors of Obama. Do you
remember that?

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Not No, I don't remember that.
But I remember it was like a

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long like four month hangover.
After he won of just party,

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especially inauguration it
seemed like it never ate me. Oh,

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yeah, there's Yeah, um, but it
was. I'll mention his now just

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so people. If I hadn't heard
previous shows, there was the

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wink wink nod nod. The first
four years he has to do is now

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be presidential. And well, if we
can just get him to the second

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tower,

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then then he's gonna do all the
cool stuff for black folks.

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Right, reparations, all that,
you know. Yeah. And that was not

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verbalized. But that was the
that was the wink wink nod nod

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like we got, we got one we got
went in.

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And there was no reason not to
think that were there any

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community leaders who were
spearheading this wink wink,

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nudge nudge? Or was it really
everyone? Not even Al Sharpton

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was saying anything?

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You couldn't talk about it
though? Right? Because like, you

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don't want to scare white folks.
Case good white voters, you

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know. So that was the balance
because the his the makeup of

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what got him elected? was a lot
of people it had to take it had

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to be a lot of white people. I
mean, of course, sure, black

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turnout, but he still is like
this balance that he can't seem

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too scary. But he's one of ours,
you know, in many who can't in

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many ways, in many ways. I think
it was a bit of a reparation

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vote.

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Just considering goggles or do I
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No, please. Follow you up.

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It was not a not a guilt vote.
It was really a reparation vote.

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Because I think when people
voted for Obama, they really

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want it to my uncle, Republican
all his life, CIA guy total, you

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know, best friends with Bush
Senior Obama twice. And it was

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really, and of course, the hope
and change message worked

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extremely well. Although, you
know, it was, I think, rightly,

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universally scoffed. But the sad
thing is, I really believe that

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if Obama had spent time in his
second term on doing well, let's

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just call on getting tangibles.
I think I think he could have

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gotten it. I really do. I think
he had the motivation. Yeah,

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screw the Republicans, or
whatever. You know what? I think

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he could have gotten stuff done.
Like real tangible stuff.

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I'm glad you call it a
reparations vote. And it's not

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the fact that it's like oh, we
voted because we owe you

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something. It was the fact that
see if you put up a quality

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black person for the job, I
don't mind hiring me it goes to

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show you my I'm all about the
content of your character. No,

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no. Did you use that line? Yeah,
so it was like white people felt

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like see you put up a quality
candidate will vote for him. Um,

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now I will say this about
reparations, the same high that

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we had of the post racial
America that they shot to sell

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us to sell us on. Real
reparations will do that, and it

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will have the real effect.
Because it's like, job. I mean,

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like, we handle that. So you
can't can't beat me over the

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head with anymore. And that's
why I'm a proponent of

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reparations,

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right? So it's done. So it's
done. And over with Yeah.

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Now we can start talking about
this 400 year narrative, which I

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always say the narrative is just
as dangerous as the action.

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Because kidding. That's what the
mental slavery stems from, is

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the narrative. So you could put
a tie that up, put a button on

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it, and then you can go and you
know, start snoring forward

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slavery. Exactly. So I just want
to let people know that Hi. And

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that camaraderie that we had to
post right, right after Obama

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and pre the Bure gate. We can
get that. That could be the

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real, that could be the real
feeling. So yeah, I guess we can

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let Tavis Smiley continue on
with to talking about how we

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lost ground?

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What accounts for the fact that
less that there's so little

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progress or indeed, the
backsliding? What accounts for

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that going on? Under the the
leadership of the first African

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American president? Why do we
explain that VM?

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I think there are few things
into your question. How do we

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explain it? I don't know. I
think the historians are going

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to have a very difficult time
trying to juxtapose how in the

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era of the first black
president, the bottom fell out

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for black America, that's gonna
be a hard juxtaposition to make,

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I hope to be around to read what
their account is for why they

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think that happened. But my
research and this text suggest a

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few things in no particular
order. Number one, there was too

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much deference to the President
by black people. We got so

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caught up in the symbolism that
we didn't press hard enough on

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the substance. And so symbolism
does matter. I just think

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substance matters as well. And
so there was too much deference

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in some part. To the president
on the part of black people,

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black leaders were sidelined and
silenced too often in favor of

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an invitation to the White
House. And so more could have

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been done in terms of pressing
an agenda. You look at the gay

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and lesbian community. Look at
the environmental movement. Of

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course, Wall Street gets
everything they want, but look

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at what other communities gained
over the last decade. And look

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how black America wasn't just
stagnant, but indeed lost ground

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over the last 10 years in part
one, because we were too

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deferential

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man. He's probably ground zero
of the cancel cannon. Can we get

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one?

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Yes, have a smile.

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He never gotta get a cannon
because he was he was before his

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time a tree was trending.

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And he says he said it. He was
saying why I'm going to be

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canceled because you can't say
anything bad about him. You got

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it. You know, all the leaders
were sideline, yeah, nobody

444
00:28:06,300 --> 00:28:12,420
questioned him. And it was just
at least he wasn't lying to

445
00:28:12,420 --> 00:28:15,570
everybody we use when you back
in the corner, a mechanic

446
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,470
they'll have a thing from Obama.
They say at least the show my

447
00:28:19,470 --> 00:28:21,570
kids they one day can be black
president.

448
00:28:22,020 --> 00:28:27,390
Right. That's that's pretty much
the whole legacy. At least it

449
00:28:27,990 --> 00:28:31,110
starts with at least Yeah,
that's too bad. Yeah, that's

450
00:28:31,110 --> 00:28:35,610
really too bad. And really a
miss chance. I mean, I never. I

451
00:28:35,610 --> 00:28:39,480
knew very early on something was
up not with Obama. But I was

452
00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:41,940
going back and forth between
London and San Francisco at the

453
00:28:41,940 --> 00:28:45,810
time and in the condo I was
renting or apartment I was

454
00:28:45,810 --> 00:28:49,620
renting the my next door
neighbor she was I think that's

455
00:28:49,620 --> 00:28:53,640
maybe where I do start using the
term and Obama bought. And they

456
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,810
had camps. And she would
volunteer. And these camps were

457
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:03,720
like, three days in a row and
you'd learn how to harass people

458
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:10,920
voting for Obama. It was it was
she was white. And really,

459
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:17,250
really dedicated compared to now
I would say, probably with an

460
00:29:17,250 --> 00:29:20,670
undertone of a Black Lives
Matter type vigor, you know what

461
00:29:20,670 --> 00:29:23,850
I mean? But I'm not without
saying what you're gonna vote

462
00:29:23,850 --> 00:29:26,400
for the black man. You know,
almost it's not verbalizing

463
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:31,230
that, but it was pretty clear
and also a very strong sense of,

464
00:29:31,500 --> 00:29:35,430
if you're not for Obama, then
you're no good. There was a very

465
00:29:35,430 --> 00:29:36,660
strong sense of that.

466
00:29:37,380 --> 00:29:40,860
Let me say like, like, I think I
hear if you're not for Obama,

467
00:29:40,860 --> 00:29:41,880
you're against black people.

468
00:29:42,930 --> 00:29:45,840
Well, that's obviously the
implication. Yes, of course.

469
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:51,990
You're obviously a racist,
racist. Yeah, that's what white

470
00:29:51,990 --> 00:29:53,130
people do to each other.

471
00:29:54,030 --> 00:29:58,380
Well, no, because it's happening
on the other side. Now we're 45

472
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:04,860
If you forget Donald Trump do
you have to be Akun? His hands

473
00:30:04,860 --> 00:30:08,850
across the border buddy There
you go. Same thing. It's the

474
00:30:08,850 --> 00:30:11,580
same thing it's like you
browbeaten into believing what

475
00:30:11,580 --> 00:30:13,890
everybody else wants you to
believe instead of having your

476
00:30:13,890 --> 00:30:14,580
own but

477
00:30:14,580 --> 00:30:18,240
it's a clue is Akun just as bad
as a racist or is a racist?

478
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,060
Worst? I mean, what Trump's in
paper, scissors, paper, rock

479
00:30:21,060 --> 00:30:22,440
scissors, you know which one we

480
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,700
saw a cone is equal to what they
call a race, traitor. I mean,

481
00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:29,490
that's the best that's a trade
nation real traitor. Okay,

482
00:30:29,730 --> 00:30:34,380
right. Right. So, modeling the
worst thing to hurtful version

483
00:30:34,380 --> 00:30:38,040
of Uncle Tom, you're asked it. I
mean, you're ousted from the

484
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:42,420
communities. Right. Gotcha. I'm
advertisement out Tavis Smiley

485
00:30:42,420 --> 00:30:49,080
but worse. Okay, so I got it.
Yeah. So I guess we'll wrap up

486
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,060
with the final clip from from
Tavis

487
00:30:51,210 --> 00:30:53,250
number two. And clearly there
was indifference. There's no

488
00:30:53,250 --> 00:30:55,890
doubt about the fact that this
President received the kind of

489
00:30:55,890 --> 00:30:58,920
headwind that no presidents ever
received, there was clearly

490
00:30:59,100 --> 00:31:01,890
obstructionism so that that's a
factor as well. But the third

491
00:31:01,890 --> 00:31:05,100
factor, I think, I would put as
a question, I think, again,

492
00:31:05,100 --> 00:31:09,090
historians would debate this for
years to come. Did Barack Obama

493
00:31:09,090 --> 00:31:11,760
not get enough done on black
issues? Because he was

494
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,620
obstructed? Or did not try hard
enough? He did not do enough?

495
00:31:16,860 --> 00:31:19,470
And I think the answer is
clearly both. We'll see what the

496
00:31:19,470 --> 00:31:21,720
historians come down on that.
But this book, again, is not

497
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,290
about him, per se. It's about
where black America is. 10 years

498
00:31:25,290 --> 00:31:28,290
after that text. And again, it's
just not a happy report. There

499
00:31:28,290 --> 00:31:30,960
are pockets of progress. But
across the board, we've

500
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:31,440
regressed

501
00:31:31,649 --> 00:31:35,999
this was Tavis promoting his
book. Yes. Do you know the title

502
00:31:35,999 --> 00:31:36,899
of it by any chance?

503
00:31:37,739 --> 00:31:42,599
I think it is. Black America
lost ground in robotics

504
00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:46,289
something similar to the title
of the clips? No, I'll

505
00:31:46,290 --> 00:31:49,050
make sure I get it in the show
notes. Alright, so

506
00:31:49,830 --> 00:31:56,640
that's how it began and how
ended. So what we had to do now

507
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,600
is feeling we're not really
gonna get into his any of his

508
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:05,100
policies or things that nature.
I want to get into who was

509
00:32:05,100 --> 00:32:09,330
Barack Obama, before he was
presented to us and Oh, four.

510
00:32:10,350 --> 00:32:14,340
And then what was the fallout of
having him for eight years?

511
00:32:14,340 --> 00:32:17,760
That's kind of like where we're
going with this show. So the

512
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:23,130
biggest fear of Brock Obama, I
would say from and I can't I'm

513
00:32:23,130 --> 00:32:27,420
speaking out of place here,
because I'm not a white person,

514
00:32:27,420 --> 00:32:30,660
but a non black person, the
biggest fear was, he could

515
00:32:30,660 --> 00:32:34,440
secretly be an angry black man.
Right? That's that's the secret

516
00:32:34,470 --> 00:32:40,080
in so much. So. They had the
angry translator. At the press

517
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:46,350
dinner, I believe, I believe it
was, um, it was a pill from KMP.

518
00:32:47,970 --> 00:32:51,930
Yeah, like a bomb was say
something and then peel would

519
00:32:52,110 --> 00:32:57,660
translate it an angry black man,
boy, remember this? Yes. So they

520
00:32:57,660 --> 00:33:01,830
actually did one on the show. On
the Key and Peele show itself.

521
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,460
Let's just I mean, it's funny
how art imitates life, which

522
00:33:05,490 --> 00:33:09,390
imitates art, right? I mean,
it's this cyclical thing. So

523
00:33:09,390 --> 00:33:12,630
let's get into the art portion
of it with Obama's anger

524
00:33:12,630 --> 00:33:13,350
translator.

525
00:33:19,020 --> 00:33:22,290
And evening, my fellow
Americans. Now, before I begin,

526
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,500
I just want to say that I know a
lot of people out there seem to

527
00:33:25,500 --> 00:33:30,180
think that I don't get angry.
That's just not true. I get

528
00:33:30,180 --> 00:33:34,830
angry a lot. It's just the way I
express passion is different

529
00:33:34,830 --> 00:33:39,840
from most. So just so there's no
more confusion. We've hired

530
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:44,310
Luther here to be my anger
translator Luthor. First off,

531
00:33:44,610 --> 00:33:46,380
Concerning the recent
developments in the Middle

532
00:33:46,380 --> 00:33:49,470
Eastern region, I just want to
reiterate our unflinching

533
00:33:49,470 --> 00:33:52,920
support for all people and the
right to a democratic process.

534
00:33:52,950 --> 00:33:55,740
Hey, all y'all dictators out
there. keep messing around and

535
00:33:55,740 --> 00:33:58,770
see what happens. Just see what
happens. Watch,

536
00:33:58,860 --> 00:34:04,320
also to the governments of Iran
and North Korea. We once again

537
00:34:04,350 --> 00:34:07,350
urge you to discontinue your
uranium enrichment programs

538
00:34:07,380 --> 00:34:13,620
mu Kim Jong Un until both y'all
86 Shit bitches Oh, come over

539
00:34:13,620 --> 00:34:17,220
there and do a thorough y'all.
Please test me and see what

540
00:34:17,220 --> 00:34:17,670
happens.

541
00:34:18,150 --> 00:34:22,500
On the domestic front. I just
want to say to my critics, I

542
00:34:22,500 --> 00:34:24,930
hear your voices and I'm aware
of your concerns. So

543
00:34:24,929 --> 00:34:27,779
maybe you could chill the hell
out like a second then maybe I

544
00:34:27,779 --> 00:34:29,579
can focus on some shit. You
know?

545
00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:33,480
That goes for everybody. You
have an interesting you have an

546
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,680
interesting take on that told me
again. You thought that perhaps

547
00:34:37,830 --> 00:34:42,060
people were worried he was an
angry black man. Secretly an

548
00:34:42,060 --> 00:34:44,640
angry black man? Are they fear
of that?

549
00:34:45,300 --> 00:34:48,360
Yes. Fear of that because they
thought behind the smile and

550
00:34:48,390 --> 00:34:53,160
well who's the white people?
Okay, I'm gonna say this. This

551
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,010
is the perception of black
people. Oh, white people

552
00:34:56,010 --> 00:34:59,610
concerning Obama's good and the
fear of all the good good

553
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,380
I did not take that at all. I've
never heard this I in my core of

554
00:35:04,380 --> 00:35:07,410
whiteness. I don't feel it. I'll
tell you what it was, to me it

555
00:35:07,410 --> 00:35:13,320
meant and still means is the guy
doesn't have enough black

556
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:18,270
credibility and needs a little
toughening up a little, little

557
00:35:18,270 --> 00:35:22,170
gangster, little gangster
narrative. So, yeah, he talks

558
00:35:22,170 --> 00:35:24,930
like this, but this is really,
really what's going down and

559
00:35:24,930 --> 00:35:28,560
quite honestly, that's not much
different than what Trump says

560
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:33,450
in Trump language. Hey, hey,
little man, a rocket man. Yes.

561
00:35:33,810 --> 00:35:37,500
That's why I rang the bell.
Luther actually sounds like

562
00:35:37,500 --> 00:35:41,490
true. Yeah, yeah. It's like,
Obama thinks it and it's okay

563
00:35:41,490 --> 00:35:44,460
for him to think it. But you
just can't say it. And I think

564
00:35:44,460 --> 00:35:50,640
that's why people really have it
out for 45 Savage is that he

565
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:51,420
actually said,

566
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:58,740
you just say 45. Savage. For
Trump. You've not introduced

567
00:35:58,740 --> 00:36:05,760
this on the show. I have you.
Yeah. 45 seconds. Yes.

568
00:36:07,110 --> 00:36:09,930
Seriously, this is this is this
is what I love is this is very

569
00:36:09,930 --> 00:36:13,440
interesting. I reached, of
course, there outliers, but in

570
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,130
general, I don't think there
were any white people were all

571
00:36:17,130 --> 00:36:22,080
in man. Yeah, well, there was
issues, of course, and there was

572
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:27,000
narrative in the media. But to
me, this was something actually,

573
00:36:27,780 --> 00:36:33,570
to me. It made it it worked for
him. I was like, yeah. Why don't

574
00:36:33,570 --> 00:36:36,090
you talk like that was actually
kind of my can I remember this?

575
00:36:36,810 --> 00:36:39,810
Angry? Oh, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no,

576
00:36:39,899 --> 00:36:41,429
I understand why he can't

577
00:36:41,430 --> 00:36:45,360
do that. But last day you can be
in America is an angry black man

578
00:36:45,390 --> 00:36:46,110
on the street.

579
00:36:46,259 --> 00:36:50,639
I understand. And I don't want
to take away from your flow. But

580
00:36:50,639 --> 00:36:55,949
it's not pleased. It's just as
interesting to me that you and

581
00:36:55,949 --> 00:36:59,189
we're generalizing. You say
black people thought that's what

582
00:36:59,189 --> 00:37:03,599
white people thought about the
black man. And I'm just saying,

583
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,839
I don't think so. I don't think
there was a majority of people

584
00:37:06,839 --> 00:37:10,469
scared about him being an angry
black man. I think they were

585
00:37:10,469 --> 00:37:14,849
scared of other things, which we
didn't which were unknown, you

586
00:37:14,849 --> 00:37:19,799
know, his real background, you
got this fuzziness of, of the

587
00:37:19,799 --> 00:37:24,089
birth certificate? Is he is he?
Is he a Muslim? You know, there

588
00:37:24,089 --> 00:37:28,199
was a lot of shit being thrown
in the air, angry black man, not

589
00:37:28,199 --> 00:37:30,539
one of the memes I remember,
that's all doesn't doesn't

590
00:37:30,930 --> 00:37:34,470
know, that's just as good as the
undercurrent of being a Marxist.

591
00:37:34,500 --> 00:37:38,190
That's the undercurrent of being
maybe a sleeper cell terrorist.

592
00:37:38,190 --> 00:37:42,450
You know, he's fueled by some
kind of anger. That's what I'm

593
00:37:42,450 --> 00:37:43,950
saying. Okay, and let me

594
00:37:45,030 --> 00:37:47,550
again, I'm with that. And with
that, let

595
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,230
me say the anger manifests
itself, as all he wants to

596
00:37:52,230 --> 00:37:55,950
destroy the American America or
he's, he's the Antichrist or I

597
00:37:55,950 --> 00:37:57,450
mean, like, all of you think,
Oh, yeah.

598
00:37:58,530 --> 00:38:00,630
All of that is true. Of course.
It's

599
00:38:02,010 --> 00:38:06,210
it's deep seated in that anger.
And let me let me as I say, I

600
00:38:06,210 --> 00:38:08,580
got I have to say this because
we've never breached it when we

601
00:38:08,700 --> 00:38:13,980
broach this topic before the
angry black man. Black man has

602
00:38:13,980 --> 00:38:19,590
to be self conscious of how
we're perceived not to come off

603
00:38:19,590 --> 00:38:26,400
as angry. And this is a real
thing, because just say if I'm

604
00:38:26,430 --> 00:38:30,630
somewhere and worker was
somewhere, and I have a scowl on

605
00:38:30,630 --> 00:38:34,620
my face from thinking like when
I'm in thought, yes, cow. Yeah,

606
00:38:34,830 --> 00:38:37,230
people can't see you say you're
right. Yeah, everything.

607
00:38:37,470 --> 00:38:48,330
Everything alright. Mmm hmm.
That's nice. That was a real

608
00:38:48,330 --> 00:38:52,500
phenomenon has to be talked
about? Yeah. And this is why

609
00:38:52,500 --> 00:38:55,860
people say oh, why Black men so
docile. It's called like if I

610
00:38:55,860 --> 00:39:01,110
raise my voice to say like, go
crazy. Well in that fierce being

611
00:39:02,310 --> 00:39:04,260
really scared. You have to be

612
00:39:04,290 --> 00:39:08,070
I had an experience a couple of
months ago was during the

613
00:39:08,070 --> 00:39:13,380
lockdown and I just come out of
the grocery store and I and I

614
00:39:13,380 --> 00:39:18,420
drive into a very busy
intersection and so but but of

615
00:39:18,420 --> 00:39:21,240
course it's it's Rona locked
down so there's not not a lot of

616
00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:25,410
cars there's cars and I got a I
got a full green light. So I'm

617
00:39:25,410 --> 00:39:29,100
just moving and this this guy he
starts you know, he's starts

618
00:39:29,100 --> 00:39:33,270
crossing the road look sees me
and does one of those slow

619
00:39:33,270 --> 00:39:36,450
crosses. So he's crossing on
red, you know, and it's just

620
00:39:36,450 --> 00:39:43,350
really slow. Now he looked he
was he was dark skinned. i He

621
00:39:43,410 --> 00:39:46,950
could have been didn't look
homeless look more Grifters but

622
00:39:46,950 --> 00:39:50,640
doesn't really matter. And as I
just slow down, and the guys

623
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:56,040
just slipped, you know, I'm
like, so I tap the horn BB. And

624
00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:01,530
the guy goes into a rage and
jealous than angry black man.

625
00:40:01,770 --> 00:40:04,560
And for me the here's here's the
reason why I wouldn't have

626
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,040
brought it up otherwise, but I
felt so comfortable. It didn't

627
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,670
scare me at all. I think the
show has influenced me. I'm

628
00:40:11,670 --> 00:40:15,300
like, Wow, all right, man, you
go ahead, you wave your arms all

629
00:40:15,300 --> 00:40:18,270
you want, but I could see the
other motorists because I

630
00:40:18,270 --> 00:40:22,470
stopped and open when Windows
said, Hey, man, just chill out,

631
00:40:22,470 --> 00:40:27,120
bro. Just follow the rules. We
all got to do it. But I just I

632
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,260
didn't feel scared at all. Which
is new for me because I'm sure I

633
00:40:31,260 --> 00:40:32,430
would have in the past.

634
00:40:33,210 --> 00:40:38,100
And just to just to wrap this
up, this is this. What? In black

635
00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:41,790
people's mind, especially black
men. Yeah, the appearing as

636
00:40:41,790 --> 00:40:45,750
angry blasts was really what
heightens the fear between cops,

637
00:40:45,810 --> 00:40:48,870
young black men, because it's
like you coming into the

638
00:40:48,870 --> 00:40:51,780
situation? And what you can have
one cop it's cool. It's like

639
00:40:51,780 --> 00:40:54,600
Hey, bro, you know? Right,
right. And then the next cop

640
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,820
comes on life hasn't heard. I
mean,

641
00:40:57,810 --> 00:41:01,110
do you know what the difference
is between those cops? I have no

642
00:41:01,110 --> 00:41:03,330
idea. The one cop has done the
work.

643
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,200
No, you're exactly right. It's

644
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,010
really true. It's just not the
work that Robyn D'Angelo is is

645
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:14,520
serving?

646
00:41:16,050 --> 00:41:18,600
Yeah, but you have experience
with dealing with it. It's

647
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,380
cultural. It's interesting. It's
very cultural.

648
00:41:22,529 --> 00:41:25,799
I think that is a topic for the
future we might want to expand

649
00:41:25,799 --> 00:41:28,859
on because that's a really good
one. And it's it's a meta, it's

650
00:41:28,859 --> 00:41:30,479
meta across everything.

651
00:41:31,710 --> 00:41:35,250
So to get to this angry black
man that America feared, I felt

652
00:41:35,250 --> 00:41:38,400
this clip of this young black
man who probably be about the

653
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,030
same age as Brock Obama, maybe a
little older, but maybe from the

654
00:41:42,030 --> 00:41:46,080
same generation, but he comes
from a das lineage. Yeah, um,

655
00:41:46,140 --> 00:41:48,450
which is a huge difference. I
mean, it makes a huge

656
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,590
difference, as we're gonna hear
later on in the show. But this

657
00:41:52,590 --> 00:41:55,260
is what America feared. Barack
Obama may be

658
00:41:56,190 --> 00:42:00,480
the first to tell us that it is
manly to keep your word. Right.

659
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:05,040
If you are a man, you keep your
word. And now all the black

660
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,130
people in this country are
demanding and even black people

661
00:42:08,130 --> 00:42:12,870
in the whole world are demanding
is that you keep your word. You

662
00:42:12,870 --> 00:42:17,610
told us we were free. Well then
show us that we're free. You

663
00:42:17,610 --> 00:42:20,790
told us that there is justice
equality for all in this

664
00:42:20,790 --> 00:42:24,570
country, you will then can stick
to your word. And let us see the

665
00:42:24,570 --> 00:42:29,100
justice and equality for all. Or
else admit to us that you're not

666
00:42:29,100 --> 00:42:31,530
a man, you're a word you're
afraid of us you're afraid to

667
00:42:31,530 --> 00:42:36,000
give us equal. You're afraid
that if you give us equal ground

668
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,990
that we will match you and we
will override you. And if that's

669
00:42:39,990 --> 00:42:42,870
what you're afraid of us, tell
us that just what you were

670
00:42:42,870 --> 00:42:47,100
afraid of. But don't keep hiding
it from us and holding this up

671
00:42:47,100 --> 00:42:50,010
to us. And every time we ask you
for something, you give us a

672
00:42:50,010 --> 00:42:53,130
little bit of something and it's
all tucked in. We don't want

673
00:42:53,130 --> 00:42:56,610
tokenism and then most black men
in this wallet don't want

674
00:42:56,610 --> 00:43:00,240
charity. And yet still every
time we ask you for something

675
00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:02,610
you give us a little piece a
little piece you're playing

676
00:43:02,610 --> 00:43:09,360
games with us when I've seen my
father have to put it well kinds

677
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:14,040
of stuff. He was a big man, he
raised a family he went down and

678
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:18,840
he had to go around to the back
door with his wife. without

679
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,930
asking for anything we're not
asking for any favors. All we

680
00:43:21,930 --> 00:43:23,250
want is what's ours.

681
00:43:25,230 --> 00:43:28,620
Yeah, yep. So of course that

682
00:43:29,010 --> 00:43:34,350
so that's what they were afraid
of or him being when you're that

683
00:43:34,350 --> 00:43:38,850
kind of black men are raised by
that kind of black man. As my

684
00:43:39,240 --> 00:43:41,970
this sounds a lot like my
father, I'm just gonna say that

685
00:43:41,970 --> 00:43:46,890
as in I did everything right and
you still want to mess with me.

686
00:43:47,130 --> 00:43:51,660
And they thought that's behind
that smile of Obama and the cool

687
00:43:51,870 --> 00:43:57,660
as a cucumber demeanor Right?
Was was lying that now other

688
00:43:57,660 --> 00:44:00,270
people have other things that
you know that we talked about,

689
00:44:00,270 --> 00:44:04,530
you know, terrorists, things
that nature, but I believe in

690
00:44:04,530 --> 00:44:07,920
black people's minds, we thought
White people had that fear. And

691
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,250
that's where a lot of criticism
came from. So when you wanted to

692
00:44:11,250 --> 00:44:14,820
criticize him, you were aligning
yourself with that thought.

693
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,060
Well, I hope I made myself Yes,
yeah,

694
00:44:18,060 --> 00:44:21,930
no, it's it's totally clear. But
you also understand that I think

695
00:44:21,930 --> 00:44:26,490
that that was much less in
people's minds. I understand the

696
00:44:26,490 --> 00:44:27,120
undercurrent.

697
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,770
No, no, no, I'm just explaining
to you why he was given a pass

698
00:44:31,770 --> 00:44:35,280
and couldn't be criticized. Of
course, white people didn't want

699
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,960
to appear that way. What I just
laid out and black people didn't

700
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:44,340
want to appear align with that.
So it's like no, no, very

701
00:44:44,340 --> 00:44:46,740
delicate, very delicate balance,
but it worked.

702
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:53,130
Yes. And he knew how to navigate
that very well. To not play the

703
00:44:53,130 --> 00:44:56,940
race car but just like flashes
like, let's go play.

704
00:44:57,690 --> 00:45:00,120
Wow, there it is. Just a little
little corner. All

705
00:45:00,750 --> 00:45:09,030
right. Um, so as we learn more
and more about, um, Barry, we

706
00:45:09,030 --> 00:45:14,010
get to say he's the furthest
thing from that. I mean he and I

707
00:45:14,010 --> 00:45:16,860
guess the people that put him in
power knew that so you like you

708
00:45:16,860 --> 00:45:19,080
don't want to have a black man
with the new codes. I mean,

709
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:24,000
like, hey, they might have y'all
but they felt safe that he

710
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,300
wouldn't be that way. And it's
maybe because this is his

711
00:45:27,870 --> 00:45:31,380
upbringing background to look
into his upbringing and

712
00:45:31,380 --> 00:45:34,470
background. We're gonna jump
right into it. Yeah, we have a

713
00:45:34,470 --> 00:45:38,670
throwback clip from Judge Joe
Brown. On Barry,

714
00:45:38,970 --> 00:45:43,770
as anybody black ever gone and
checked out who it isn't.

715
00:45:46,500 --> 00:45:47,970
Went through school is

716
00:45:47,970 --> 00:45:54,240
Barry Soetoro, his stepfather
and adoptive father, low low

717
00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:59,730
lol. Soto Toro, dad is one of
the 20 richest men on the planet

718
00:45:59,730 --> 00:46:06,540
Earth. Obama is beneficiary of a
trust fund. Along with his two

719
00:46:06,540 --> 00:46:11,550
half siblings. He is probably
the richest man to ever occupy

720
00:46:11,550 --> 00:46:16,890
the White House. Lolo Soetoro
was a major and Indonesian army

721
00:46:17,370 --> 00:46:22,830
and a contractor with the CIA.
What daddy did was run death

722
00:46:22,830 --> 00:46:26,910
squads for the Indonesian
government. He was an executive

723
00:46:26,910 --> 00:46:30,600
vice president for Standard Oil
and when he decided to set up

724
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:37,200
his own company in Indonesia,
where possibly the world's

725
00:46:37,260 --> 00:46:41,520
largest oil reserves are
located. Imagine he used his

726
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:46,440
position of having an active
death squad it is proposal to

727
00:46:46,500 --> 00:46:52,140
facilitate some of his business
dealings. And now, interestingly

728
00:46:52,140 --> 00:46:56,970
enough, there are documented
moments between George Herbert

729
00:46:56,970 --> 00:47:03,150
Walker Bush, who was head of the
CIA at the time and Lolo Soetoro

730
00:47:04,500 --> 00:47:10,080
certain arrangements and they
were frequent golf partners. And

731
00:47:10,500 --> 00:47:15,750
Lolo Soetoro used Goldman Sachs
as its as his American

732
00:47:15,750 --> 00:47:19,560
financier, or financial banking
institution.

733
00:47:21,210 --> 00:47:25,230
Yeah, it was really interesting
to see that Wikipedia does not

734
00:47:25,230 --> 00:47:27,870
have any of that information on
Lolo Sotero.

735
00:47:28,860 --> 00:47:33,030
Not actually, you can't find any
information on Harley, I mean,

736
00:47:33,780 --> 00:47:36,810
as JoJo Brown said and further
clips, and if you want to hear

737
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:41,430
more about that, go back to show
14 But as you said in on clips

738
00:47:41,430 --> 00:47:46,560
after that, that he had to go
like to page 1415 on Google just

739
00:47:46,830 --> 00:47:50,400
on a Google search. Yeah, just
just to buy anything. Oh, yes,

740
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:54,270
exactly. Well, luckily, that was
poor auto quality, because I

741
00:47:54,270 --> 00:47:56,640
think JoJo brown being
interviewed in a restaurant over

742
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:01,920
dinner, he did a studio
interview. And he shared more

743
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:09,180
details on this. Not well
publicized past of Barack Obama.

744
00:48:09,450 --> 00:48:12,900
And I will say this JoJo Brown.
He's a very serious person. I

745
00:48:12,900 --> 00:48:19,680
mean, he's a judge. I mean, I
don't take him to be a hater. I

746
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,720
mean, because that's, I mean,
that's the word right? I mean,

747
00:48:21,900 --> 00:48:25,770
he's not Obama hater. But if you
do your homework, you'll start

748
00:48:25,770 --> 00:48:32,250
to find some of these things
have a lot of validity soon. So

749
00:48:32,610 --> 00:48:37,860
I guess we can get into the
cleaner version audio cleaner of

750
00:48:38,100 --> 00:48:39,300
a bomb was past one.

751
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:45,300
And the last one number 44. and
wonderful to add 43 Bush and

752
00:48:45,330 --> 00:48:50,460
Obama. Well, their pictures are
bush with his arm around eight

753
00:48:50,460 --> 00:48:54,810
year old Barack Obama because
his stepdad he adopted daddy

754
00:48:54,810 --> 00:48:58,950
Lolo Soetoro and done a lifetime
where the business with the

755
00:48:58,950 --> 00:49:05,250
Bush's Uncle George Herbert
Walker, after whom George

756
00:49:05,250 --> 00:49:09,180
Herbert Walker Bush Bush, one
president was named, founded

757
00:49:09,180 --> 00:49:13,890
Halliburton in 1946 and
Oklahoma, and Lolo Soetoro had

758
00:49:13,890 --> 00:49:18,150
been internationally Executive
Vice President for Standard Oil

759
00:49:18,210 --> 00:49:22,200
there was talk of him being a
CIA as well yes, he ran the

760
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,220
death squads for the Indonesian
army on his own call. Anyone

761
00:49:26,220 --> 00:49:31,140
could be assassinated. So when
George Herbert Walker Bush

762
00:49:31,140 --> 00:49:35,310
became head of the CIA on to the
Ford administration he just got

763
00:49:35,310 --> 00:49:39,660
with his old buddy in the oil
business Lolo Soetoro and pulled

764
00:49:39,660 --> 00:49:40,500
off the hitch

765
00:49:44,010 --> 00:49:48,630
Oh, yeah. Well, so reason why
I'm laying this out is people

766
00:49:48,630 --> 00:49:51,660
like what's the what does have
to do a thing. I want to lay

767
00:49:51,660 --> 00:49:56,220
this narrative out so when we
listen to the clips after this,

768
00:49:56,610 --> 00:50:02,160
we can see see it through the
lens of possibly Barack Obama

769
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:07,080
being a control asset slash, I
hate to use this word because

770
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:11,070
it's a loaded term Manchurian
Candidate. I don't mean, in the

771
00:50:11,070 --> 00:50:14,400
terms of he's gonna go crazy and
do something, but just being

772
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,380
controlled from the from the
onset.

773
00:50:16,470 --> 00:50:20,820
And having done a lot of this
work for no agenda, it's

774
00:50:20,820 --> 00:50:24,330
probably worth mentioning that
it's gonna sound pretty crazy.

775
00:50:24,390 --> 00:50:30,510
But all of these connections
really do make sense. And you

776
00:50:30,510 --> 00:50:32,550
can find that I'm putting stuff
in the show notes right now

777
00:50:32,550 --> 00:50:37,410
about the sub Taros. And the
Indonesian massacres between 65

778
00:50:37,410 --> 00:50:43,770
and I think 9090 And it's this
is not fantasy and the CIA stuff

779
00:50:43,770 --> 00:50:45,960
is also I think demonstrably
true.

780
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:51,360
And the far more interesting
facts and and branch on that

781
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:57,030
tree is the Dunham's is maternal
grandparents. Oh, yeah. I think

782
00:50:57,030 --> 00:51:01,560
it's, yeah, his grandfather and
grandmother had ties to

783
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,610
governmental agencies. Oh, I
guess, um, let's just go ahead

784
00:51:05,610 --> 00:51:08,310
and let Joe roll. He's on. He's
on a roll. So let's let him

785
00:51:08,310 --> 00:51:08,880
continue.

786
00:51:09,780 --> 00:51:12,450
And even some of the richest
people in America don't make

787
00:51:12,450 --> 00:51:16,110
that why? Because when his
stepdad he died, he was one of

788
00:51:16,110 --> 00:51:20,160
the 1015 richest men on earth.
And he left everything in a

789
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:24,090
trust fund operated out of
Indonesia. So the American

790
00:51:24,090 --> 00:51:28,560
government can't touch it didn't
make Barack Obama 1/3

791
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:32,730
beneficiary for the assets of
one of the 1015 richest men on

792
00:51:32,730 --> 00:51:39,390
earth. So we got a game run on
us. So you know, that little

793
00:51:39,390 --> 00:51:43,500
thing that bush W does when he
gets with Michelle, THEY GIGGLE

794
00:51:43,500 --> 00:51:47,460
and he gives a candy. The inside
thing is that supposed to be the

795
00:51:47,460 --> 00:51:50,520
same kind of candy he used to
give to her husband when he was

796
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,020
678 years old.

797
00:51:52,860 --> 00:51:57,930
Ah, wow, that's so creepy. I
hadn't heard that one. I liked

798
00:51:57,930 --> 00:52:01,140
that. Yeah, they're always buddy
buddy. But that's so terrorist.

799
00:52:01,140 --> 00:52:08,340
Pateros so e t o r o they were
they were they were all in the

800
00:52:08,340 --> 00:52:12,330
oil business with the bushes.
Same same criminal enterprise.

801
00:52:12,870 --> 00:52:19,710
Yeah, cuz you got the best patto
old killer rabbit hole. It's YES

802
00:52:19,710 --> 00:52:22,380
to go down if you start
following that trail, because

803
00:52:22,380 --> 00:52:27,090
this ties into many historical
events, one being in Dallas, but

804
00:52:27,090 --> 00:52:27,930
I'll leave it at that.

805
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,710
All right. Now he can't run. But
you know, George H. Walker Bush.

806
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:36,180
Remember where he was on the day
JFK was assassinated. He's the

807
00:52:36,180 --> 00:52:37,020
only guy

808
00:52:37,020 --> 00:52:37,500
just the

809
00:52:37,530 --> 00:52:38,670
only guy who can't

810
00:52:38,850 --> 00:52:45,840
remember why was it? And I will
say this is just a point. George

811
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:52,410
Bush Senior, let's just call him
that. Probably ran this country

812
00:52:52,410 --> 00:52:59,550
from, in my opinion, from 1980.
Onward. And to Trump got his

813
00:52:59,550 --> 00:53:07,500
office. I truly believe that to
be so he, I mean, you think they

814
00:53:07,500 --> 00:53:13,590
say um, Reagan's mental capacity
was diminishing, even when he

815
00:53:13,590 --> 00:53:17,730
was in office, who was his vice
president, George Bush. And then

816
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,600
you hear the stories of Clinton
and Bush in action and they

817
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:29,100
hold the whole Iran Contra MENA
Arkansas. Boy was a soldier in

818
00:53:29,100 --> 00:53:29,820
the empire.

819
00:53:30,570 --> 00:53:33,630
Right? So you really didn't have
a choice. If you think about it,

820
00:53:33,630 --> 00:53:37,530
you really didn't have a choice.
Because if Clinton is Bush's

821
00:53:37,530 --> 00:53:41,550
guy, and they're running against
each other, either way, it's

822
00:53:41,550 --> 00:53:47,220
gonna be ran by Bush. And then
Bush runs his son against

823
00:53:47,220 --> 00:53:50,280
Clinton's vice president. Yep.
And they kind of just called it

824
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:51,510
like, now Bush won.

825
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,530
Pretty well get the hanging
chads the supreme court called

826
00:53:55,530 --> 00:53:56,940
it right.

827
00:53:57,420 --> 00:54:05,280
Well, who cares? I am. Anyway,
um, and they following that you

828
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,420
have Obama come in which Obama
has clear ties to George Bush

829
00:54:09,420 --> 00:54:13,530
Senior. So we and if you notice
how long this flag stayed at

830
00:54:13,530 --> 00:54:19,440
half staff headlamps, you know?
Yes. How much cool. George Bush

831
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:23,130
Senior hat in this country? Oh,
yeah. Massive. So I just want to

832
00:54:23,130 --> 00:54:27,720
say that because it's that's
critical to what power structure

833
00:54:27,750 --> 00:54:30,960
Barack Obama really came from.
Also, it makes

834
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:35,220
it very understandable why my
longtime CIA uncle had no

835
00:54:35,220 --> 00:54:38,160
problem voting for Barack Obama,
the same company, same

836
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:39,030
organization.

837
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,590
And that go even further that
goes to show you why the

838
00:54:43,590 --> 00:54:47,340
intelligence agencies really has
won on for Donald Trump.

839
00:54:47,790 --> 00:54:51,090
You know, there's really no
bigger man who's a conspiracy

840
00:54:51,090 --> 00:54:55,890
theorist than a black man who's
a conspiracy theorists. This is

841
00:54:55,890 --> 00:54:58,650
this is cultural tell me it
ain't true. Moses is cultural

842
00:54:58,650 --> 00:55:02,670
because there's so many ain't
going to go back to to vote for

843
00:55:02,670 --> 00:55:06,540
me Claudette Colvin and there's
so many of these, which would be

844
00:55:06,570 --> 00:55:09,870
if I said that now and publicly
blue like, amen. It's we're

845
00:55:09,870 --> 00:55:12,270
always uses conspiracy theory
and nut job

846
00:55:13,170 --> 00:55:17,790
because we always knew black ink
existed and it's like, okay who

847
00:55:17,790 --> 00:55:22,590
employs and empowers black ink?
Yep. So it's like so you have to

848
00:55:22,590 --> 00:55:27,120
question everything, everything
calms down because like, What

849
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,120
What's your motive? What? Why
are you trying to steer me? How

850
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:30,900
are you trying to handle

851
00:55:30,930 --> 00:55:34,860
this? And this is this is why we
we clicked so well, when we

852
00:55:34,860 --> 00:55:38,100
first started talking, you know,
it's like I think like that all

853
00:55:38,100 --> 00:55:40,530
the time. That's I just
conditioned myself. That's what

854
00:55:40,530 --> 00:55:45,780
I do. But I didn't grow up
necessarily having to do that or

855
00:55:45,780 --> 00:55:48,690
thinking that, but that's why we
connect. I love it.

856
00:55:49,410 --> 00:55:53,400
Yeah. And that's how I had to
grow up because like, everybody

857
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,320
smiles in your face as your
friend you get that kind of

858
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,920
thing not to be distrusting of
people, but you also and this is

859
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,740
why I said Barack Obama dropping
out of the sky.

860
00:56:01,830 --> 00:56:04,890
Yeah, that's like flag that's a
red flag right there.

861
00:56:05,339 --> 00:56:09,779
That goes totally against it.
Just say if we had a community.

862
00:56:10,199 --> 00:56:14,669
Oh, you want to know who's
passing through your town? Your

863
00:56:14,699 --> 00:56:17,369
you know your neighborhood?
Who's the winner? Who's he

864
00:56:17,369 --> 00:56:21,959
connected with? Just say that,
like his family.

865
00:56:24,570 --> 00:56:26,040
Got Married? Because his
grandma.

866
00:56:26,340 --> 00:56:29,640
Oh, he's Yeah, he's like, Oh,
he's so so Hamlet's. Oh, no,

867
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:36,180
that was Hamilton's. So for not
him for him not to be vouched

868
00:56:36,180 --> 00:56:37,500
for, and you showed up

869
00:56:37,529 --> 00:56:39,509
and basically vetted, he wasn't
vetted

870
00:56:40,500 --> 00:56:47,160
at all right at all. But in
hindsight, we had to start doing

871
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:51,690
some digging. And that's what
Joe Joe Joe Brown is doing, and

872
00:56:51,690 --> 00:56:55,200
will continue to do. But I will
say this. Now, Joe, Joe Brown is

873
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:59,280
a huge proponent of black
masculinity and black men. So if

874
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:03,000
it was no fire there, he
wouldn't say anything about the

875
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:09,240
smoke. Right. So obviously, he
has access to information that

876
00:57:09,240 --> 00:57:12,930
emboldened him to come out and
say these things, knowing he

877
00:57:12,930 --> 00:57:17,430
could be, you know, removed,
right. If if they're not true,

878
00:57:17,460 --> 00:57:18,540
right, so I'm just wondering,

879
00:57:19,470 --> 00:57:22,530
the lack of visibility. Yeah,
the lack of pushback on him on

880
00:57:22,530 --> 00:57:26,010
that kind of shows that people
like, quiet.

881
00:57:26,430 --> 00:57:31,170
Yeah, shut up. Shut up. Yeah,
well, we won't shut up Joe.

882
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,660
We're gonna let Joe get to you
and clip three.

883
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:40,260
Barak grandmother has been
acknowledged as being the woman

884
00:57:40,260 --> 00:57:45,660
that operated the channels
through which CIA money went to

885
00:57:45,660 --> 00:57:49,530
the Southwest Pacific. So she
introduced her daughter, who had

886
00:57:49,530 --> 00:57:57,180
just had Berry, Barack to Lolo
Soetoro, and they got married

887
00:57:57,180 --> 00:58:02,160
and Lolo Soetoro adopted Barack
Obama, the name was changed to

888
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,850
Barry Soetoro. Now when he went
to high school and a why he I

889
00:58:05,850 --> 00:58:09,330
know about that high school
almost sent Well, my oldest son

890
00:58:09,330 --> 00:58:11,670
to it, I could afford it, but I
didn't think he observed

891
00:58:11,670 --> 00:58:17,220
deserved it. When a years ago
the tuition was $95,000 a year

892
00:58:17,220 --> 00:58:20,580
not including room and board.
When Obama went there. I've

893
00:58:20,580 --> 00:58:23,940
talked to two of his classmates
they independently state that

894
00:58:23,940 --> 00:58:28,650
the tuition not including room
and board was 45,000. Now

895
00:58:28,650 --> 00:58:33,510
Business Insider reports his
income for 2017 at over 200

896
00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:38,640
million net that's after taxes
deductions write offs. For this

897
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:45,900
last year 2018 They reported it
as 570 plus million dollars in s

898
00:58:45,900 --> 00:58:49,530
after all deductions tax write
Trump doesn't make that Miss.

899
00:58:51,690 --> 00:59:00,930
Big Bank Barry. Nice. Damn. So
people say Well, Joe, saw you

900
00:59:00,930 --> 00:59:04,560
got an axe to grind. There's
other people that were sound

901
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:08,220
nice alarms, and this is from
the other side of the political

902
00:59:08,220 --> 00:59:14,820
sphere. And this is caaci age of
four stages of completion.

903
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:19,110
I know they released a report as
claimed that the 44th President

904
00:59:19,110 --> 00:59:22,920
of the United States is a CIA
creation. American investigative

905
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,130
journalist Wayne Matson says
Barack Obama as well as his

906
00:59:26,130 --> 00:59:29,850
family, including his parents,
stepfather and grandmother had

907
00:59:29,850 --> 00:59:31,410
connections with this CIA.

908
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:37,440
America tonight, if you feel the
same energy that I do,

909
00:59:37,500 --> 00:59:39,390
if you feel the same urgency
that

910
00:59:39,450 --> 00:59:42,480
exceptional already promised for
the disillusion and change from

911
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,780
the status quo, these are all
what helped Barack Obama to

912
00:59:45,780 --> 00:59:48,900
become president two years ago,
but now the reality seems to be

913
00:59:48,900 --> 00:59:51,720
something far from that. And
what is being called a bombshell

914
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,840
investigative journalist Wayne
Madsen has revealed in a report

915
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:58,050
that in 1983, President Obama
worked for the Business

916
00:59:58,050 --> 01:00:02,040
International Corporation which
was a CIA front. That company

917
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,410
used to conduct seminars with
the world's most powerful

918
01:00:04,410 --> 01:00:08,880
leaders as agents abroad with
CIA espionage activities. Madson

919
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,370
says this intelligence
connection runs in Obama's

920
01:00:11,370 --> 01:00:14,820
family, Obama's maternal
grandmother, Madelyn Dunham was

921
01:00:14,820 --> 01:00:17,700
one of the first female vice
presidents of the Bank of Hawaii

922
01:00:17,700 --> 01:00:22,260
in Honolulu. The report says
this bank was also a CIA friend

923
01:00:22,260 --> 01:00:25,620
for funneling money to
oppressive dictators and rulers,

924
01:00:25,830 --> 01:00:28,920
such as former Indonesian
President Suharto, who came into

925
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,350
power through a CIA backed coup.

926
01:00:33,210 --> 01:00:37,410
You know, having grown up in the
Netherlands, I know a lot about

927
01:00:37,410 --> 01:00:41,520
the Indonesia story. Because it
was a Dutch colony.

928
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:51,240
Okay. And yes, there's a lot
there. Yeah, there is. And I

929
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,840
will say this, a lot of the
topics I really don't dive into

930
01:00:54,870 --> 01:00:59,040
about him or around him, because
they're, they're non starters. I

931
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:00,780
mean, you have half the people
that are going to believe

932
01:01:00,780 --> 01:01:03,240
whatever they believe in the
other half is going to be

933
01:01:03,270 --> 01:01:06,540
opposed to that. So I mean, like
semester, I didn't really get

934
01:01:06,540 --> 01:01:10,320
into, but the things that you
can prove his worth, and it

935
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:14,370
makes sense. Yeah. And how
protective the intelligence

936
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:20,460
agencies were up him. It just
kind of explains itself. I mean,

937
01:01:21,060 --> 01:01:27,120
Operation Mockingbird media
supporting him Hello. It's quite

938
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:33,180
clear what's going on here. But
I'm laying this out to say,

939
01:01:33,180 --> 01:01:37,470
Okay, if we look at this, say
this is true, which I believe I

940
01:01:37,470 --> 01:01:40,080
wouldn't be presenting if I
didn't think it was some truth

941
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:44,490
to it. Then we have to look at
him totally different and how he

942
01:01:44,490 --> 01:01:48,330
was presented to us as that way
because we talked about

943
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:54,630
infiltration, and all of the
black established groups or

944
01:01:55,140 --> 01:01:58,650
groups that were established
those so called, representing

945
01:01:58,650 --> 01:02:03,000
black people. So he's like a one
man entity, right? He's a one

946
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:08,040
man organization, but he just he
was so polarizing that he drew

947
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,880
people around him. And it's
like, now he has this huge

948
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:18,210
protector it huge protect realm
of protection around him that he

949
01:02:18,210 --> 01:02:22,170
was bulletproof. Yes. And they
use him to push any agenda that

950
01:02:22,170 --> 01:02:25,290
they want it to. Yes. Without
any question.

951
01:02:25,470 --> 01:02:31,140
And I think David Axelrod had a
big role in this. That was his

952
01:02:31,170 --> 01:02:35,130
one of his campaign managers.
Yep. Dan Durbin? Yes. Dick

953
01:02:35,130 --> 01:02:39,450
Durbin. And also John Brennan. I
mean, John Brennan was, you

954
01:02:39,450 --> 01:02:43,320
know, he was kind of Obama's
shadow guy, you know, always

955
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:44,730
from very early on.

956
01:02:45,750 --> 01:02:51,210
Yeah. And he's the one and Dick
Durbin is the one that told by

957
01:02:51,210 --> 01:02:53,880
his admission, I didn't want to
bloat the clip list too much,

958
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:57,270
but just for this one little
factoid, but he tells a story of

959
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:01,560
Yeah, I told Barry at those
speech that he gave, you're

960
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:04,500
gonna run for president or you
need to run for president. It's

961
01:03:04,500 --> 01:03:08,940
like he was like, told, and we
started to hear how his path was

962
01:03:08,940 --> 01:03:14,550
laid out for him going to this
certain district, and, you know,

963
01:03:15,030 --> 01:03:18,690
it's just like it was everything
was laid out. It was for him to

964
01:03:18,690 --> 01:03:20,250
be where he was at when he was
there.

965
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:24,240
That path was paved, and people
got pushed out of the way quite

966
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:25,320
harshly here and there.

967
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:33,780
Yes, and I have the stories I
support. But let's wrap up with

968
01:03:33,780 --> 01:03:38,280
the CIA narrative with the
second goal 1500 9660s,

969
01:03:38,430 --> 01:03:41,610
Obama's father had been selected
by the leader of Kenyan African

970
01:03:41,730 --> 01:03:45,540
national union, Tom Boyer, to
receive scholarship and be

971
01:03:45,540 --> 01:03:49,560
airlifted to the University of
Hawaii. CIA files indicate that

972
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:53,310
and boy was an important agent
of influence for the agency. The

973
01:03:53,310 --> 01:03:57,240
airlift was a CIA operation to
train future agents of influence

974
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:00,750
in Africa, which was a
battleground between the US, the

975
01:04:00,750 --> 01:04:04,680
Soviet Union and China for
influence. As a Kenyan citizen

976
01:04:04,740 --> 01:04:08,130
in the University of Hawaii.
Obama's father who was already

977
01:04:08,130 --> 01:04:12,210
married, and had a child with
another on the way and Kenya met

978
01:04:12,210 --> 01:04:16,080
Obama's mother and Dunham in a
Russian class in Hawaii. This

979
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:20,490
meeting eventually led to their
marriage. Barack Obama's mother

980
01:04:20,490 --> 01:04:24,900
Dunham was divorced when his son
was four. She married Lolo

981
01:04:24,900 --> 01:04:28,050
Soetoro, after meeting him at
the East West Center at the

982
01:04:28,050 --> 01:04:31,830
University of Hawaii, the center
affiliated with CIA activities

983
01:04:31,830 --> 01:04:34,590
in the Asia Pacific region, but
we worked for Tim Geithner's

984
01:04:34,590 --> 01:04:37,650
father, Peter at the Ford
Foundation with a better widely

985
01:04:37,650 --> 01:04:40,410
believed to be a CIA front and
our grandpa Matson is

986
01:04:40,410 --> 01:04:43,170
questioning that if Barack
Obama, as I suspected was

987
01:04:43,170 --> 01:04:46,530
subjected to the CIA project,
either by brainwashing or being

988
01:04:46,530 --> 01:04:49,560
part of it people it'll become
problematic for an American

989
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:53,040
president. He says if Obama has
been brainwashed, then he can be

990
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:56,190
controlled. And if he was simply
part of this project, then he

991
01:04:56,190 --> 01:04:56,910
can be bribed.

992
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,030
I like hearing Tim Geithner in
there who later returned as

993
01:05:03,180 --> 01:05:05,670
Secretary of the Treasury, I
believe.

994
01:05:05,730 --> 01:05:09,360
Yes, there were childhood
friends. Now that just works.

995
01:05:09,570 --> 01:05:12,150
What are the chances? What's the
chances that

996
01:05:14,820 --> 01:05:18,360
Tim Geithner could not be more
white bread? I mean, that's a

997
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,940
total dweeby douche. So he was
out there so

998
01:05:21,420 --> 01:05:25,500
interesting. There's two points
that were made here. Um, one

999
01:05:26,490 --> 01:05:33,450
there was his parents met in a
Russian class. Yeah. Kenyan. Why

1000
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,640
always can you go to Hawaii?

1001
01:05:35,700 --> 01:05:37,410
I think Russian

1002
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:43,920
why would they study in Russian
for hmm, could that you know,

1003
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:47,700
could that have some Marxist
slash communist undertones with

1004
01:05:47,700 --> 01:05:53,100
it? Very possible his his mother
be a honeypot? You know, that

1005
01:05:53,130 --> 01:05:57,540
was put into those classes to
see who she could net and you

1006
01:05:57,540 --> 01:05:59,850
know, you have to ask these
questions when you know how

1007
01:05:59,850 --> 01:06:01,080
these organizations work.

1008
01:06:01,140 --> 01:06:04,230
Well also, the East West
exchange I'm just looking

1009
01:06:04,230 --> 01:06:09,720
through some old CIA documents
was an exchange program between

1010
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:16,800
the United States and the USSR
so that that makes sense why she

1011
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:22,410
would be in a Russian class.
Right and at the East West

1012
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,290
exchange the East West Center in
Hawaii

1013
01:06:26,310 --> 01:06:29,880
Yes. With this key figure from
Kenya,

1014
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:33,570
y'all yeah it's fantastic it all
fits I just part I didn't know

1015
01:06:33,570 --> 01:06:35,670
this is good like the East West
Center stuff that's good.

1016
01:06:36,270 --> 01:06:38,520
I'll see homeland I know how it
works yeah.

1017
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:43,530
Really quite accurate
surprisingly accurate Yes.

1018
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:53,490
Anything to get the job done so
you have Mr. Brock Obama Sr. Oh,

1019
01:06:53,490 --> 01:06:57,690
one more thing that Ford
Foundation which that comes up

1020
01:06:57,690 --> 01:07:04,440
several times as some kind of CI
connected organization or

1021
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:05,730
entity. So

1022
01:07:07,110 --> 01:07:10,740
as a as an aside the fort I was
just doing some research today

1023
01:07:10,770 --> 01:07:16,230
on Garza and what's her name?
Rometty the other two Black

1024
01:07:16,230 --> 01:07:16,710
Lives Matter

1025
01:07:16,710 --> 01:07:18,870
co founder Matey and colors,

1026
01:07:19,050 --> 01:07:22,080
not colors, colors. I'm done
with colors colors is the

1027
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:26,430
magnet. Yeah, but I went further
into Garza cars. I think it is

1028
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:33,540
LSU, Michigan, heavy, heavy
funding from the Ford Foundation

1029
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,990
in a whole bunch of different
nonprofits and we're talking

1030
01:07:36,990 --> 01:07:43,020
millions. Really, really? Yes.
You get me started Mo and I just

1031
01:07:43,020 --> 01:07:45,450
go off and do my own homework
just for myself. I mean, that's

1032
01:07:45,540 --> 01:07:47,970
instead of watching TV, I'm
like, Oh, let me investigate

1033
01:07:47,970 --> 01:07:48,330
this.

1034
01:07:48,630 --> 01:07:53,250
Now you see what I know. You got
you got rabbit fever.

1035
01:07:53,460 --> 01:07:55,980
I know. I know. I know the fever
I know it.

1036
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:02,910
So Brock Obama senior this
mysterious character this kind

1037
01:08:02,910 --> 01:08:08,490
of used in paint it to however
way they want to paint them.

1038
01:08:09,900 --> 01:08:13,950
They wrote this interesting book
on him. I think this is doing

1039
01:08:13,950 --> 01:08:18,270
the SEC during the first term.
But that gives some background

1040
01:08:18,300 --> 01:08:21,720
that where there was none on
Barack Obama, Barack Obama

1041
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:26,130
senior and This is CNN the other
Brock Obama.

1042
01:08:27,510 --> 01:08:30,810
He was part of Africa's
independence generation and a

1043
01:08:30,810 --> 01:08:33,690
brilliant economist and he was
also a polygamist and an

1044
01:08:33,690 --> 01:08:36,930
alcoholic who ended up becoming
the father of an American

1045
01:08:36,930 --> 01:08:40,800
President Barack Obama senior
has been somewhat of a mystery

1046
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:44,760
to most even to his own son,
President Obama, but biographer

1047
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,670
Sally Jacobs did the research
and discovered unbelievable

1048
01:08:47,670 --> 01:08:51,390
information about a man who
lived a rather complicated life

1049
01:08:51,390 --> 01:08:54,600
here to discuss her book. The
other Baroque the bold and

1050
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:58,890
reckless life of President
Obama's father is Sally Jacobs.

1051
01:08:58,890 --> 01:09:02,190
Sally, thanks for coming on the
show. First question to you what

1052
01:09:02,190 --> 01:09:05,970
inspired you to look into the
life of Barack Obama senior.

1053
01:09:08,100 --> 01:09:11,850
But clearly, there was not a
great deal known about him. As

1054
01:09:11,850 --> 01:09:14,520
the campaign went on, it seemed
that this was a person that we

1055
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,490
needed to know more about. There
was a fair amount of information

1056
01:09:17,490 --> 01:09:19,620
out there public about the
President wouldn't be

1057
01:09:19,620 --> 01:09:22,860
president's mother, but the
father was an unclear figure.

1058
01:09:25,650 --> 01:09:30,540
Okay, so I'm looking at this
author, by the way, I want to

1059
01:09:30,540 --> 01:09:30,840
see what

1060
01:09:30,900 --> 01:09:34,350
Yes, please do because that
sounds like a spook Sally.

1061
01:09:34,710 --> 01:09:38,040
Sally does sound like she's in
the basement. They're tapping up

1062
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:41,280
some books for for the agency.
Okay.

1063
01:09:42,690 --> 01:09:46,050
But the disdain they have for
Mr. Brock Obama senior is going

1064
01:09:46,050 --> 01:09:48,810
to be even he's an alcoholic and
appalling, right.

1065
01:09:50,130 --> 01:09:53,100
She basically read the Amazon
review, I just looked at it.

1066
01:09:53,940 --> 01:09:54,750
That's exactly what

1067
01:09:55,980 --> 01:09:59,490
I want to ask this question. And
in this, you're going to see how

1068
01:09:59,490 --> 01:10:04,950
much this vein this is this is
what you will call Karen's to

1069
01:10:04,950 --> 01:10:08,400
Karen's I hate to use that term
but it gets kind of fitting

1070
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:13,380
here. Watch how they tear down
Brock Obama senior Oh firstly in

1071
01:10:13,380 --> 01:10:15,900
and off what he's a polygamist
and an alcoholic right

1072
01:10:15,900 --> 01:10:16,590
right

1073
01:10:19,650 --> 01:10:22,140
this is a question I always had
what is the difference when are

1074
01:10:22,140 --> 01:10:27,780
polygamous and semi in a poly
Emery polyamorous polyamorous

1075
01:10:28,770 --> 01:10:31,860
relationship and why is one
acceptable than the other but

1076
01:10:32,580 --> 01:10:35,490
I'm just gonna put that out
there what they notice if you

1077
01:10:35,490 --> 01:10:38,460
could spin this if he was a
favorable character, they could

1078
01:10:38,460 --> 01:10:42,510
say oh he was in how you say
that word again poly

1079
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:47,670
polyamorous, polyamory
polyamorous? They will say this

1080
01:10:47,670 --> 01:10:50,430
they will say he was in a
polyamorous relationship as

1081
01:10:50,460 --> 01:10:56,430
often struggle with battled with
a controlled substance abuse.

1082
01:10:56,520 --> 01:11:02,160
Right? You see other media
paints name that is

1083
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:07,110
so good. I'm just looking up
just looking at some terms here.

1084
01:11:07,470 --> 01:11:13,080
So polyamory many several and
more love practice of or desire

1085
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:16,020
for intimate relationships with
more than one partner. Okay, now

1086
01:11:16,020 --> 01:11:21,360
let's look up polygamy. Just
make sure we see the practice

1087
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,390
customer having more than Oh,
that's really the marriage part.

1088
01:11:24,480 --> 01:11:25,770
Okay, so it's

1089
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:31,230
they have marriage they have
polyamorous now with polyamorous

1090
01:11:31,230 --> 01:11:34,320
marriages. Sure. And I mean,
this is I guess I know I'm going

1091
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,120
off here. But I'm just want to
address these things that we

1092
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:41,250
come across them that is
centered with the man is wrong.

1093
01:11:42,150 --> 01:11:46,290
When a woman says she wants to
husband, okay, it's always

1094
01:11:48,150 --> 01:11:49,500
always a winner.

1095
01:11:50,339 --> 01:11:53,339
I just don't think he's very
accepting of them to catch this

1096
01:11:53,339 --> 01:11:54,149
man in this way.

1097
01:11:54,780 --> 01:11:57,330
Yes, they should check their
damn privileges what they should

1098
01:11:57,330 --> 01:11:57,930
do. Right. They

1099
01:11:57,930 --> 01:12:00,990
should really check really
shoes. Yeah, definitely. Well,

1100
01:12:01,380 --> 01:12:03,600
let's continue on what I'm
bashing Brock.

1101
01:12:04,350 --> 01:12:07,710
You mentioned in your book that
there was a chance that actually

1102
01:12:07,710 --> 01:12:11,010
some evidence that that he
actually wanted to put his son

1103
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:14,610
now President Obama up for
adoption? What can you tell us

1104
01:12:14,610 --> 01:12:15,120
about that?

1105
01:12:16,890 --> 01:12:19,950
What I found is it's in his
immigration document. There is a

1106
01:12:19,950 --> 01:12:24,420
memo in which Obama senior tells
the foreign student advisor at

1107
01:12:24,420 --> 01:12:27,690
the University of Hawaii where
he was enrolled, that his wife

1108
01:12:27,690 --> 01:12:30,840
and Dunham was making
arrangements with the Salvation

1109
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:34,350
Army to put their baby up for
adoption. The baby was unborn at

1110
01:12:34,350 --> 01:12:39,270
the time. Did they actually do
that? It's unclear. And Dunham

1111
01:12:39,270 --> 01:12:42,780
had every reason to do it. She
was 18 years old. She was having

1112
01:12:42,780 --> 01:12:47,100
a mixed race baby at a time that
intermarriage was very rare. On

1113
01:12:47,100 --> 01:12:49,050
the other hand, it didn't seem
to be the kind of thing she

1114
01:12:49,050 --> 01:12:52,290
would do. She took her
responsibility seriously. Obama

1115
01:12:52,290 --> 01:12:55,350
senior had every reason to put
the baby up for adoption. At the

1116
01:12:55,350 --> 01:12:59,490
time he was renewing his visa or
hoping to if immigration

1117
01:12:59,490 --> 01:13:02,280
officials saw him as a
polygamist with a mixed race

1118
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:05,430
baby, that might not have been
the best profile to put forward

1119
01:13:05,430 --> 01:13:05,580
and

1120
01:13:05,790 --> 01:13:08,730
he had family members have said
that they they don't believe

1121
01:13:08,730 --> 01:13:11,310
there was ever any evidence or
any thoughts about putting

1122
01:13:11,370 --> 01:13:14,910
Barack Obama up for adoption.
But do you believe that they

1123
01:13:14,910 --> 01:13:17,280
were actually considering it,
given the the evidence that

1124
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:17,730
you've seen?

1125
01:13:19,260 --> 01:13:23,220
I think it's more likely that
Obama senior told them that to

1126
01:13:23,220 --> 01:13:25,560
make them think that the baby
was going to vanish. It gave a

1127
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,980
cleaner profile for him to
immigration officials. The only

1128
01:13:28,980 --> 01:13:31,980
thing I do wonder about is that
he said the Salvation Army. The

1129
01:13:31,980 --> 01:13:35,280
Salvation Army did have a
maternity home in Honolulu. It's

1130
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:37,710
interesting to me that he
mentioned that. Maybe they

1131
01:13:37,710 --> 01:13:40,470
talked about it. I didn't go
ahead with it. I don't think

1132
01:13:40,470 --> 01:13:42,030
they made arrangements to
actually do it.

1133
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:50,760
You see how they gave the mom a
pass? Oh, yeah. Oh, it's pay

1134
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:54,810
attention to their white man
black.

1135
01:13:55,620 --> 01:14:01,470
Wow. By the way, this is Sally
H. Jacobs is the only book she

1136
01:14:01,470 --> 01:14:04,560
ever wrote. Sally is the only
book she's written any other

1137
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:05,100
books.

1138
01:14:06,030 --> 01:14:11,730
Interesting. But she's a touted
reporter. This smacks of a hit

1139
01:14:11,730 --> 01:14:18,000
piece and is he's not like his
father. And to elicit I know

1140
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,490
people like man while you're
kind of reaching this, that

1141
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:22,650
you're gonna hurt yourself.
You're, you're reaching out,

1142
01:14:22,650 --> 01:14:25,770
you're reaching, reaching right
up in my field here. I'm loving

1143
01:14:25,770 --> 01:14:26,430
the reach.

1144
01:14:27,270 --> 01:14:30,540
Well, listen to this next clip.
Part Three.

1145
01:14:30,930 --> 01:14:36,810
He speaks so sweetly about his
mother. Do you think if he was

1146
01:14:36,810 --> 01:14:39,570
raised by his father, he would
be president today.

1147
01:14:41,910 --> 01:14:44,340
You know, this was certainly
speculative myself. I think it

1148
01:14:44,340 --> 01:14:48,510
would be unlikely Obama Jr. was
a very brilliant and brave

1149
01:14:48,510 --> 01:14:51,780
person. In some respects. He was
extremely self destructive also.

1150
01:14:52,770 --> 01:14:55,560
I think he wasn't a very
nurturing person and was rather

1151
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:58,620
self absorbed. I think Obama Jr.
Might have chosen a very

1152
01:14:58,620 --> 01:15:01,080
different life would be A
different person in many

1153
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:04,440
respects if he'd grown up with
that kind of a paternal figure.

1154
01:15:04,770 --> 01:15:11,310
Oh geez Did you hear that? Oh
yeah. Excuse me. Dad raised

1155
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:15,330
please check your female
privilege their holy crap. Oh,

1156
01:15:15,330 --> 01:15:15,840
man.

1157
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:20,070
That's a hell of a question.
This is a dad raised him doom

1158
01:15:20,130 --> 01:15:25,290
that you would think he would
have been POTUS? No, no, no, no

1159
01:15:25,290 --> 01:15:28,860
it's even though his dad came
from Kenya to come all the way

1160
01:15:28,860 --> 01:15:33,210
to Harvard. By way of Hawaii he
was saying basically pulled

1161
01:15:33,210 --> 01:15:35,490
himself up by his bootstraps. I
mean, that's the way the story

1162
01:15:35,490 --> 01:15:38,280
is written. Nah, Heaton. Ah.

1163
01:15:38,790 --> 01:15:41,400
So this must have been Stanley's
business.

1164
01:15:42,510 --> 01:15:47,700
Stanley Stanley, and he years
he's he writes lovely, Stanley.

1165
01:15:47,940 --> 01:15:52,590
Um, so but that not so much. I
guess let's just go ahead and

1166
01:15:52,590 --> 01:15:56,460
let that go and finish them off.
Let's let's finish bashing

1167
01:15:56,460 --> 01:15:56,850
Brock.

1168
01:15:57,269 --> 01:16:01,949
anything positive? Anything
redeeming about senior?

1169
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:06,990
Absolutely. For starters, he was
hugely successful in one sense.

1170
01:16:07,140 --> 01:16:10,590
He made it from a very poor,
simple childhood in Western

1171
01:16:10,590 --> 01:16:13,110
Africa, to Harvard, you know, he
was really a brilliant

1172
01:16:13,110 --> 01:16:17,070
economist. Also, his story was
deeply entwined with that of

1173
01:16:17,070 --> 01:16:21,600
Kenya of the moment. He was a
fierce advocate for the African

1174
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:24,570
people. He was not happy with
the way the government was

1175
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,240
going. And he spoke out very
boldly against the

1176
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:30,630
administration of Jomo Kenyatta.
He did not feel that the little

1177
01:16:30,630 --> 01:16:34,080
man was getting his fair do. And
Obama senior was very courageous

1178
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:36,690
about that, at some personal
risk.

1179
01:16:36,780 --> 01:16:39,690
And just very quickly, what do
you think President Obama will

1180
01:16:39,690 --> 01:16:42,240
think of this book of yours
about his father?

1181
01:16:44,940 --> 01:16:47,730
I think you'll find a lot that
he didn't know in it. I cannot

1182
01:16:47,730 --> 01:16:50,460
imagine it would be a very easy
book to read. But I think any

1183
01:16:50,460 --> 01:16:53,070
child who doesn't know their
parent might want to know the

1184
01:16:53,070 --> 01:16:54,840
true story about him. That's my
hope.

1185
01:16:55,019 --> 01:17:00,149
Wow. Wow, that what a great
move. What a great move. Don't

1186
01:17:00,149 --> 01:17:01,919
look over here. This is a dead
end.

1187
01:17:02,820 --> 01:17:06,600
Amy redeemable qualities. That's
what she said about? Well, he

1188
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:07,620
was a brilliant

1189
01:17:07,650 --> 01:17:10,860
economist. I will they keep
reminding us really. He was

1190
01:17:10,860 --> 01:17:15,120
truly a brilliant economist. But
obviously, you know, he was so

1191
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:18,090
brilliant that he was just a
total loser and a failure.

1192
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:22,050
He was a rabble rouser. So
that's always good. If you want

1193
01:17:22,050 --> 01:17:27,150
to stir up trouble in Kenya, so
they're all for that. But then

1194
01:17:27,150 --> 01:17:31,320
she says, Will he? You know,
what would you think? What would

1195
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:34,320
Barack Obama think about the
book about his father? And she

1196
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:37,050
said, I think he'll find a lot
of surprises, which that

1197
01:17:37,050 --> 01:17:41,760
surprised me because of the way
the narrative went. Brock Obama

1198
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:45,720
wrote a tell all books Yeah.
Yeah. The dreams from my

1199
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:48,240
father's I would think he would
have more information than

1200
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:51,300
Sally. Unless Sally has some
resources

1201
01:17:52,620 --> 01:17:55,710
and resources that we are not
aware of. All right,

1202
01:17:56,250 --> 01:18:00,060
brought know how to file says
she does, according to the court

1203
01:18:00,060 --> 01:18:04,800
and hurt. Speaking of that book,
we have a Baroque reading from

1204
01:18:05,070 --> 01:18:07,830
the dreams of my excuse me
Dreams from My Father.

1205
01:18:08,220 --> 01:18:12,690
There was only one problem my
father was missing. And nothing

1206
01:18:12,690 --> 01:18:15,690
that my mother or grandparents
could tell me could obviate that

1207
01:18:15,690 --> 01:18:19,470
single unassailable fact. Their
stories didn't tell me why he

1208
01:18:19,470 --> 01:18:22,590
had left. They couldn't describe
what it might have been like had

1209
01:18:22,590 --> 01:18:26,760
he stayed like the janitor Mr.
Reed, or the black girl who

1210
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:30,960
turned up dust as she raced down
a Texas road. My father became a

1211
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:35,580
prop in someone else's
narrative. Attractive Papa, the

1212
01:18:35,580 --> 01:18:39,180
alien figure with the heart of
gold. The mysterious stranger

1213
01:18:39,180 --> 01:18:43,260
who saves the town and wins the
girl but a prop nonetheless.

1214
01:18:43,470 --> 01:18:49,020
Wow, some honesty there. What a
prop nonetheless. Wow. Wow,

1215
01:18:49,020 --> 01:18:54,720
that's brutally honest, really,
brutally honest. In context,

1216
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:55,680
great to hear that.

1217
01:18:56,670 --> 01:19:01,350
So we hear we seen his dad get
bashed. Now let's listen to in

1218
01:19:01,350 --> 01:19:04,530
comparison, how they lavish
praise. And Dunham.

1219
01:19:05,010 --> 01:19:07,770
We are backing out to our
occasional series of reports on

1220
01:19:07,770 --> 01:19:10,710
the presidential candidates
families. Looking tonight at

1221
01:19:10,710 --> 01:19:13,590
Senator Barack Obama who's made
his life story and his

1222
01:19:13,590 --> 01:19:16,500
upbringing a part of his
campaign. He's written and

1223
01:19:16,500 --> 01:19:19,800
spoken openly about the mother
who raised him the father who

1224
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:23,280
left him, both of whom of course
left behind a big impression.

1225
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:27,180
NBCs Lee Cowen has our report
tonight on family ties.

1226
01:19:28,440 --> 01:19:34,050
I have not had my parents now
for over a neck. The beginning

1227
01:19:34,050 --> 01:19:37,950
of Barack Obama's improbable
journey began with an improbable

1228
01:19:37,950 --> 01:19:41,580
union, an African man named
Barack and a white Kansa named

1229
01:19:41,580 --> 01:19:45,270
Stanley and wed at the dawn of
the 60s when interracial

1230
01:19:45,270 --> 01:19:48,660
marriages were still illegal in
many places. He had lasted

1231
01:19:48,660 --> 01:19:52,320
though just three short years
and their lives not much longer.

1232
01:19:52,740 --> 01:19:56,490
Obama's father was killed in a
car accident in Africa in 1982.

1233
01:19:56,760 --> 01:20:00,930
His mother stricken with ovarian
cancer, died in 19. 95

1234
01:20:01,020 --> 01:20:08,040
It would be wonderful to have
the Council of parents, it would

1235
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:12,870
be wonderful to be able to admit
mistakes. Or just get some

1236
01:20:12,870 --> 01:20:13,440
encouragement.

1237
01:20:13,650 --> 01:20:17,280
He said he has to rely on what
they left him. And each left him

1238
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:20,580
something very different.
Obama's father abandoned him at

1239
01:20:20,580 --> 01:20:24,000
age two, he left first for
Harvard and eventually returned

1240
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:27,900
to his native Kenya. To this
day, the elder Barak remains an

1241
01:20:27,900 --> 01:20:30,900
example for the younger, but of
how not to live.

1242
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:37,860
While still bashing dad, that
story was set man that's

1243
01:20:37,860 --> 01:20:41,460
beautiful that that that
narrative was crafted creative

1244
01:20:41,490 --> 01:20:44,730
posted on on Wikipedia and good
to go.

1245
01:20:45,390 --> 01:20:48,990
Now Adam asked me why that
narrative was set that way, you

1246
01:20:48,990 --> 01:20:52,410
know more, I'd like to ask you
why why did they put set the

1247
01:20:52,410 --> 01:20:53,460
narrative that way?

1248
01:20:55,110 --> 01:20:59,850
So he could identify as well, so
black males could identify with

1249
01:20:59,850 --> 01:21:05,640
him not having a father. So
single mothers could identify

1250
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:09,270
with him with his mother. And
with him

1251
01:21:09,300 --> 01:21:13,380
makes makes him also know a
little less scary. Yeah,

1252
01:21:13,380 --> 01:21:14,010
relatable.

1253
01:21:14,010 --> 01:21:18,420
And now he's gonna be he's a
black man, but he was raised in

1254
01:21:18,420 --> 01:21:23,490
the corporate, white, white
society. So the anger you don't

1255
01:21:23,490 --> 01:21:26,880
have to worry about He's
alright. He's okay. And at the

1256
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:29,460
same time, they had to paint him
as a poor black kid from

1257
01:21:29,460 --> 01:21:32,370
Chicago. That was this. The
product?

1258
01:21:33,570 --> 01:21:36,750
Like the poor black kid from
Chicago bid, that's the funniest

1259
01:21:36,750 --> 01:21:39,390
one. When I was on the south
side.

1260
01:21:40,230 --> 01:21:43,590
Yeah, that's the that's the
that's the, they tried to do it

1261
01:21:43,590 --> 01:21:45,720
with the same thing with Kemal
Harris, right being from

1262
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:51,300
Oakland, and she's, like, not
from Oakland, maybe we're not

1263
01:21:51,300 --> 01:21:54,300
the Oakland like you're using
that term. So no, it's the same

1264
01:21:54,300 --> 01:21:55,290
thing. It's like

1265
01:21:55,350 --> 01:21:58,050
she's coming from the block in
Oakland.

1266
01:21:59,220 --> 01:22:06,300
Right. So you see how they're
setting this up? That is and and

1267
01:22:06,300 --> 01:22:09,900
is good and Brock is bad. And
he's a single product of a

1268
01:22:09,900 --> 01:22:12,960
single parent home grew up on
the south side of Chicago with a

1269
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:16,770
white mom. Yeah. I mean, this is
the narrative if you ask people

1270
01:22:16,770 --> 01:22:20,430
that are not studied on Brock
Obama that say oh, he's from

1271
01:22:20,430 --> 01:22:27,420
Chicago. Not Kansas. Not not
these are the places why

1272
01:22:27,450 --> 01:22:28,140
roofspace

1273
01:22:28,950 --> 01:22:33,120
his roots are actually he's to
be honest, if I if I'm looking

1274
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:36,270
at his roots coming in from his
mom's side, he's part of the

1275
01:22:36,270 --> 01:22:43,170
either white supremacist Obama's
got a lot or lots of rich royal

1276
01:22:43,170 --> 01:22:44,490
blood in the veins

1277
01:22:45,030 --> 01:22:52,380
in he's like 14 cousins with
Dick Cheney. So obviously, okay.

1278
01:22:53,220 --> 01:22:58,260
Black child, but not from
lineage of slavery mom named

1279
01:22:58,260 --> 01:23:02,070
Stanley, his name's Hussein,
who's got a cousin is gonna be

1280
01:23:02,070 --> 01:23:07,260
vice president one day, and he's
lucky enough to make precedent

1281
01:23:07,710 --> 01:23:09,840
that was, and you know, the Bush
is

1282
01:23:10,710 --> 01:23:16,050
a great country or what Mo? Oh,
man, look at what's possible.

1283
01:23:16,110 --> 01:23:17,340
It's crazy.

1284
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:23,820
I'm taking the under on that. I
mean, as far as that happening.

1285
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:31,620
So let's continue with the NBC.
Nothing tradition.

1286
01:23:32,099 --> 01:23:36,599
I watch myself for some of the
things that I know, ended up

1287
01:23:36,599 --> 01:23:42,779
hurting him. Too much pride, on
inability to listen to other

1288
01:23:42,779 --> 01:23:45,929
people. Those are things that I
guard against in myself.

1289
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:49,560
But in that fatherless void,
stood his young mother, who

1290
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:52,500
remains more influential than
anyone. Yeah. How, for example,

1291
01:23:52,500 --> 01:23:54,690
when Brian Williams showed him
on the cover of Newsweek for the

1292
01:23:54,690 --> 01:23:57,720
very first time, your way
senators reactions, was not

1293
01:23:57,720 --> 01:23:58,470
about himself,

1294
01:23:58,500 --> 01:24:02,490
you know, it makes me think of
my mom. And in the fact that

1295
01:24:03,630 --> 01:24:04,560
she's not around.

1296
01:24:06,330 --> 01:24:09,690
Obama's half sister, Maya
remembers that there was little

1297
01:24:09,690 --> 01:24:11,220
traditional about their mother.

1298
01:24:11,309 --> 01:24:15,059
I think it is interesting to
look at the patterns how our

1299
01:24:15,059 --> 01:24:19,709
mother started in the Midwest,
and ended up in Indonesia and

1300
01:24:19,709 --> 01:24:24,299
how he started in Hawaii in
essence and, and returned to the

1301
01:24:24,299 --> 01:24:25,049
Midwest.

1302
01:24:25,260 --> 01:24:30,150
Remember that friend who knew
Stanley and early see her in him

1303
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:35,640
all the time, the passion he
brings? I think, a lot of that's

1304
01:24:36,180 --> 01:24:41,550
something he learned from his
mother's knee. When he needed

1305
01:24:41,550 --> 01:24:42,120
the most,

1306
01:24:42,390 --> 01:24:45,810
when I was writing that speech
on race, I'm the son of a black

1307
01:24:45,810 --> 01:24:50,280
man from Kenya and a white woman
from Kansas. Her memory loomed

1308
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:54,180
over me as this is something
that she would trust,

1309
01:24:54,480 --> 01:24:56,670
a reality check. He still sees

1310
01:24:57,059 --> 01:25:00,899
you know at night, if I'm saying
a prayer night Send out maybe a

1311
01:25:01,739 --> 01:25:04,979
little message to my mother and
hopefully she somewhere can

1312
01:25:04,979 --> 01:25:05,249
hear.

1313
01:25:05,940 --> 01:25:10,770
You know, of course, without
without mo facts, I never would

1314
01:25:10,770 --> 01:25:13,710
have caught what was going on
here. This was totally shaping

1315
01:25:13,710 --> 01:25:17,490
him to be completely relatable
to the black man as well. I

1316
01:25:17,490 --> 01:25:24,240
mean, just by the parental
situation and then totally

1317
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:27,330
pushing all of that towards how
great his mom was. I mean,

1318
01:25:27,990 --> 01:25:33,300
solidifying the matriarchal
structure is genius.

1319
01:25:34,620 --> 01:25:38,190
What always say about our
community is the matriarchy, or

1320
01:25:38,190 --> 01:25:44,490
patriarchy. So yeah, to get to
get black women to buy in. They

1321
01:25:44,490 --> 01:25:48,690
had to relate to this to them on
a single parent level issue.

1322
01:25:48,690 --> 01:25:53,940
Sure. And we even heard on a
previous show, Michelle Obama

1323
01:25:53,940 --> 01:25:56,310
refer to herself as a single
mother.

1324
01:25:57,960 --> 01:25:59,940
That was one of my favorites. I
mean,

1325
01:26:01,770 --> 01:26:07,380
they're pushing that narrative
of single mothers single child

1326
01:26:07,380 --> 01:26:09,390
happened. How did you win again,
Tarik

1327
01:26:09,630 --> 01:26:11,940
didn't have that clip. If you
want to hear flow, to say it for

1328
01:26:11,940 --> 01:26:13,950
a second. Please, please,

1329
01:26:13,980 --> 01:26:18,630
looking at new models of getting
farmers markets to, you know,

1330
01:26:18,660 --> 01:26:21,810
create buses and drive into
communities that are

1331
01:26:21,810 --> 01:26:26,220
underserved. So we have to deal
with the question of access. And

1332
01:26:26,430 --> 01:26:33,060
believe me as a busy single
mother, single as a busy mother

1333
01:26:35,130 --> 01:26:38,880
Rupes. It's the narrative made
no the narrative they're

1334
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:39,990
pushing. Yeah, it's

1335
01:26:39,990 --> 01:26:43,110
in the back of her mind. And the
truth just came up. Oh, crap was

1336
01:26:43,110 --> 01:26:45,090
used to say that exactly.

1337
01:26:46,290 --> 01:26:52,230
1000 video from the Ann Dunham
so Cerezo Endowment Fund, and I

1338
01:26:52,260 --> 01:26:55,140
thought it'd be interesting just
to hear a little little take on

1339
01:26:55,140 --> 01:26:55,440
that.

1340
01:26:56,010 --> 01:26:59,550
Our mother was a scholar, and
she believed very much in

1341
01:26:59,550 --> 01:27:03,690
learning from books and she
could spend hours in a library

1342
01:27:03,690 --> 01:27:07,650
but she also believed in
learning from people who are

1343
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:12,300
committed to honing their craft
from people who walk in the

1344
01:27:12,300 --> 01:27:17,370
streets, and she felt like the
whole world was a classroom.

1345
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:21,840
When Ann Dunham Soetoro applied
for her PhD in anthropology at

1346
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:25,530
the University of Hawaii at
Manoa, she had already invested

1347
01:27:25,530 --> 01:27:29,220
significant time and energy to
improve the quality of life for

1348
01:27:29,220 --> 01:27:31,410
craftspeople in rural Indonesia.

1349
01:27:32,220 --> 01:27:36,060
In the introduction to a
dissertation is what I found a

1350
01:27:36,060 --> 01:27:39,450
very interesting statement. She
said this work is the result of

1351
01:27:39,450 --> 01:27:44,160
14 years of research in Java.
And it was perfectly true. She

1352
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:45,870
knew that place inside out

1353
01:27:46,350 --> 01:27:49,800
and was driven by the desire to
partner with others to create

1354
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:54,030
lasting change. While working at
the Ford Foundation, States

1355
01:27:54,030 --> 01:27:57,120
Agency for International
Development. She collaborated

1356
01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:00,330
closely with the range of
nongovernmental organizations to

1357
01:28:00,330 --> 01:28:03,060
support programs addressing
women and poverty.

1358
01:28:04,230 --> 01:28:08,940
US AI D is is the big tip off
the Ford Foundation, of course,

1359
01:28:09,210 --> 01:28:15,300
but the USA ID is that is the
United States. International aid

1360
01:28:15,300 --> 01:28:20,850
division. That's that's where we
fund nongovernmental

1361
01:28:20,850 --> 01:28:24,270
organizations and countries from
that, who were there of course,

1362
01:28:24,300 --> 01:28:27,840
sending back intelligence that
is that's the fund. That's the

1363
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:29,010
one you want the money from.

1364
01:28:29,100 --> 01:28:34,860
And his mother reminds me a lot
of her name slips my mind just

1365
01:28:34,860 --> 01:28:39,810
that fast. wrote for 16
magazine. Ah, what is her name?

1366
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:44,250
It'll come to me. Okay. I'm big,
tall feminist in the 60s.

1367
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:49,380
Oh, yes, of course. The CIA
woman.

1368
01:28:49,440 --> 01:28:53,700
We both know her name was Anita
Bryant. No, no, it

1369
01:28:53,700 --> 01:28:57,000
was the other one. It was Gloria
Steinem.

1370
01:28:57,690 --> 01:29:02,520
That's it. Yes. His mom gives me
the Gloria Steinem, Bob.

1371
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:05,820
Oh, yeah, I can see that.

1372
01:29:06,990 --> 01:29:09,780
The I came to her and like, can
you write for her? Oh, yeah. No.

1373
01:29:09,780 --> 01:29:15,840
Gloria Steinem was the age makes
sense. Right, a good ghost.

1374
01:29:15,870 --> 01:29:18,870
Gloria Steinem. Absolutely known
she was a CIA agent. She admits

1375
01:29:18,870 --> 01:29:22,260
it. Were agent. Yeah, she would
operate if she did stuff for

1376
01:29:22,260 --> 01:29:22,470
them.

1377
01:29:22,500 --> 01:29:26,820
Yeah. So we're fast forwarded
from his childhood. And when we

1378
01:29:26,820 --> 01:29:31,110
know about we went through how
he was raised by an Indonesian,

1379
01:29:31,110 --> 01:29:35,640
Kansas. And we fast forward to
him going to college. And at

1380
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:39,690
Harvard, we have an eyewitness
account from Dr. Randy short,

1381
01:29:39,780 --> 01:29:43,320
which we played some clips from
him before. And I like to call

1382
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:48,090
him Dr. Messi. Because he
always, always given us more

1383
01:29:48,540 --> 01:29:52,620
even further than what you
expect from him with his

1384
01:29:52,740 --> 01:29:55,470
shocking insight on Obama at
Harvard,

1385
01:29:56,010 --> 01:29:57,930
but I think he was placed here.

1386
01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:00,360
I don't think we I don't think
we elected him. I think

1387
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:01,680
selected.

1388
01:30:03,270 --> 01:30:09,210
And I saw him being selected 29
years ago, walking through the

1389
01:30:09,210 --> 01:30:15,030
law school on a weekend that how
Obama manipulated the white

1390
01:30:15,030 --> 01:30:19,740
students to make him head of the
Harvard Law Review. We exchange

1391
01:30:19,740 --> 01:30:22,560
for him to stab all the black
students in the back. And I

1392
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:26,580
happen to stumble into a meeting
of the Federalist Society. And

1393
01:30:26,580 --> 01:30:31,710
what I heard was a man saying
how much he hated black people

1394
01:30:31,770 --> 01:30:34,410
and how black people were stupid
and how they were despicable.

1395
01:30:34,650 --> 01:30:37,260
And how he could control them
and he knew how they felt about

1396
01:30:37,260 --> 01:30:40,110
him. And I was listened to this
person, and I'm telling you my

1397
01:30:40,110 --> 01:30:43,440
spirit at the sign of the black
man about six foot six, one,

1398
01:30:43,860 --> 01:30:48,210
bisexual, biracial. So I walk
quickly through the Harkins

1399
01:30:48,210 --> 01:30:51,090
common which is a student union
at the law school and saw Obama.

1400
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:55,470
The audience turned and looked
at me, we looked at each other.

1401
01:30:55,890 --> 01:30:59,940
I was so angry at the stuff he
said about black folks. But I

1402
01:30:59,940 --> 01:31:02,490
realized while I'm out number
this what what difference can I

1403
01:31:02,490 --> 01:31:05,070
make? So I stormed out the
building, and I asked some

1404
01:31:05,070 --> 01:31:09,540
people who some collateral in
there, he realized, like Richard

1405
01:31:09,540 --> 01:31:13,140
Nixon on crack, he's the
president. And that's where I

1406
01:31:13,140 --> 01:31:16,140
heard the name Obama, and that
if he were made head of the

1407
01:31:16,140 --> 01:31:20,280
Harvard Law Review, he would
keep the blacks in check. For

1408
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:23,160
the most ultra conservative
agenda, whatever they want to

1409
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:26,490
do. He said, Because black
people would look at him, and

1410
01:31:26,490 --> 01:31:28,380
they trust him, although he
wasn't one of them.

1411
01:31:28,590 --> 01:31:35,250
Wow. He's so this is Randy. He's
a radio guy, right? Randy short?

1412
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:36,030
No, Dr.

1413
01:31:36,030 --> 01:31:39,810
Randy shore, he was he's a
doctor. He's the one that wrote

1414
01:31:39,810 --> 01:31:43,140
the news on our show about the
Depo Provera shot. No, yes.

1415
01:31:43,140 --> 01:31:46,680
Harming black women. Right. So
he, I mean, he he's, you know,

1416
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:54,630
he's said considering, you know,
Valley resource in a, quote

1417
01:31:54,630 --> 01:32:00,270
unquote, black conscious
community or black. Not

1418
01:32:00,270 --> 01:32:01,440
mainstream community,

1419
01:32:02,010 --> 01:32:04,950
like conscious community. That's
a good one, like that.

1420
01:32:06,090 --> 01:32:11,190
So Randy, here to give us a
statement on Brock Obama, and

1421
01:32:11,190 --> 01:32:14,220
I'm just gonna take it on face
value. I'm not gonna say I don't

1422
01:32:14,220 --> 01:32:16,650
have no reason not to believe
him. But that's a very

1423
01:32:17,070 --> 01:32:21,960
inflammatory statement, but it
aligns with his membership in

1424
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:25,260
Skull and Bones, which you you
said before about him being a

1425
01:32:25,260 --> 01:32:28,230
white supremacist? Well, the
Skull and Bones is the

1426
01:32:28,230 --> 01:32:32,130
preeminent. It's the clients
that, by the definition that we

1427
01:32:32,130 --> 01:32:37,620
use the white supremacy is the
club. And for he's not in the

1428
01:32:37,620 --> 01:32:40,890
black man's skull and bones,
what we call it the Boulais.

1429
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:46,740
He's actually in Yeah, he's
actually in the skull and bones.

1430
01:32:49,080 --> 01:32:49,560
So

1431
01:32:50,730 --> 01:32:52,650
the Illuminati, yes, yes.

1432
01:32:54,060 --> 01:32:58,830
So we had to, he has to have
some understandings of how this

1433
01:32:58,830 --> 01:33:04,860
world has to work to be in to be
in that group. So I think he,

1434
01:33:05,190 --> 01:33:09,690
this is why he's such a moderate
because on one side, he's been

1435
01:33:09,690 --> 01:33:13,830
pulling in one direction to the
right. But then to maintain his

1436
01:33:13,830 --> 01:33:18,570
cover or maintain his
credibility, he has to let

1437
01:33:18,570 --> 01:33:24,240
herself fall by the left and NAS
reason why he chose Chicago as

1438
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:26,670
his home one of the blackest
cities in America outside of

1439
01:33:26,670 --> 01:33:32,070
Detroit, maybe Washington, DC,
um, his wife has strong roots in

1440
01:33:32,070 --> 01:33:35,400
the community. Her father has
strong roots in the community.

1441
01:33:35,550 --> 01:33:39,630
So it just made sense. And then
he needs this, like, start

1442
01:33:39,630 --> 01:33:42,600
building up on those
credentials. You have over

1443
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:45,780
there. I don't know how
connected they last how long. It

1444
01:33:45,780 --> 01:33:46,650
is a connection.

1445
01:33:46,740 --> 01:33:48,780
I think there was a path. You
know, there were people there

1446
01:33:48,780 --> 01:33:52,440
who saw a pathway within the in
the state government, that would

1447
01:33:52,440 --> 01:33:54,390
be a pathway for Obama

1448
01:33:55,500 --> 01:33:57,900
to be dead, because I mean, the
Democrats pretty much run

1449
01:33:57,900 --> 01:34:03,540
Chicago, we said this before.
The pocket of power they have so

1450
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:06,600
pretty much whoever they want to
win certain elections. They can

1451
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:08,010
give them the win when

1452
01:34:08,700 --> 01:34:11,340
Lori Lightfoot, that just proves
it, doesn't it?

1453
01:34:14,370 --> 01:34:18,660
Yeah. So I think he had to
ingrain himself in Chicago

1454
01:34:18,660 --> 01:34:23,580
society, and that brings him to
Reverend Wright's church. Yes.

1455
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:29,940
The controversy started with
words spoken by the Reverend

1456
01:34:29,940 --> 01:34:34,080
Jeremiah Wright in his sermons.
In one of them he blames America

1457
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:38,220
for a long history of military
policies that he says cause the

1458
01:34:38,220 --> 01:34:41,160
September 11 2001 terrorist
attacks.

1459
01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:48,240
We bombed Hiroshima Nagasaki
than the 1000s in New York and

1460
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:50,730
dependents, and we never batted
an eye.

1461
01:34:51,480 --> 01:34:54,510
Most Americans would not
normally have heard about these

1462
01:34:54,510 --> 01:34:56,730
sermons without Reverend
Wright's connection to

1463
01:34:56,730 --> 01:35:00,360
Democratic presidential
candidate Barack Obama. right is

1464
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:04,020
the retired Pastor of Trinity
United Church of Christ, where

1465
01:35:04,020 --> 01:35:07,770
Obama is a member of Obama has
called right his spiritual

1466
01:35:07,770 --> 01:35:11,610
mentor and the man who brought
him to Christ. But once the

1467
01:35:11,610 --> 01:35:15,060
fiery pulpit remarks were made
public in March, and widely

1468
01:35:15,060 --> 01:35:18,900
disseminated on the internet,
Obama condemned them. In a

1469
01:35:18,900 --> 01:35:21,870
speech he called Rights view of
the US. It's profoundly

1470
01:35:21,870 --> 01:35:25,110
distorted. Reverend Wright
commented on that Monday.

1471
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:29,400
politicians say what they say
and do what they do, based on

1472
01:35:29,730 --> 01:35:33,720
electability, based on sound
bites, based on polls,

1473
01:35:33,780 --> 01:35:37,380
right says the black church is
invisible and misunderstood by

1474
01:35:37,380 --> 01:35:41,340
what he called the dominant
culture, meaning white America.

1475
01:35:41,580 --> 01:35:43,980
This is not an attack on
Jeremiah Wright has nothing to

1476
01:35:43,980 --> 01:35:46,590
do with Senator Obama isn't an
attack on the black church

1477
01:35:46,590 --> 01:35:48,870
launched by people who know
nothing about the African

1478
01:35:48,870 --> 01:35:49,980
American religious tradition.

1479
01:35:51,990 --> 01:35:58,860
This I think this this, this
revelation was one of the first

1480
01:35:58,890 --> 01:36:03,000
videos I believe, to kind of go
what we then wouldn't even know

1481
01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:05,970
what to call it but viral on
YouTube. And that's why it

1482
01:36:05,970 --> 01:36:08,850
hadn't addressed I mean, of
course, there was some media

1483
01:36:08,850 --> 01:36:12,000
outlets playing it, questioning
it. I think they already were

1484
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:15,360
prepared for it. But people had
questions. And so they had to

1485
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:19,290
build something around that and
smother this, I guess.

1486
01:36:21,030 --> 01:36:27,120
And with the right situation,
this with that fear the angry

1487
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:29,370
black man again, it's like, oh,

1488
01:36:31,290 --> 01:36:34,980
that's yes. Now I get the angry
black man. But yeah, that that

1489
01:36:34,980 --> 01:36:39,570
scared people. That way. Right.
Right. was talking. Yeah, that

1490
01:36:39,570 --> 01:36:40,320
scared people.

1491
01:36:41,430 --> 01:36:46,920
So I'm just saying so. Two
things. He said there one. He

1492
01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:49,200
said that people don't
understand the black church.

1493
01:36:49,290 --> 01:36:52,290
When I heard this. I was like, I
heard that before. I mean, it

1494
01:36:52,290 --> 01:36:57,960
wasn't shocking to me. I think
this is part of why people

1495
01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:03,630
congregate the way they do.
Because certain truths are

1496
01:37:04,020 --> 01:37:07,050
certain things that are
perceived to be true by that

1497
01:37:07,050 --> 01:37:11,460
community can be voice without
repercussions. Right? It's like

1498
01:37:11,460 --> 01:37:14,460
okay, when I went to church,
looking around, okay, it's not

1499
01:37:14,490 --> 01:37:18,150
black people. All right now.
Well, we can talk. All right now

1500
01:37:18,150 --> 01:37:21,900
we can go it's the barbershop
effect the same thing, right?

1501
01:37:21,900 --> 01:37:25,260
You can look around like Okay,
now we can really let loose so

1502
01:37:25,260 --> 01:37:33,030
when he said that it didn't
really I've never heard before,

1503
01:37:33,060 --> 01:37:36,660
I mean, for coming from that
type of preacher because they're

1504
01:37:36,660 --> 01:37:40,230
not every preacher is like that,
but you have those fire and

1505
01:37:40,230 --> 01:37:45,300
brimstone. People that bring
that kind of narrative. Sure.

1506
01:37:45,540 --> 01:37:49,110
What I want to do is and this is
all and we can do it on shows

1507
01:37:49,110 --> 01:37:54,240
like this. I want to listen to
Reverend Wright's comments,

1508
01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:56,100
because all you heard was god
damn America.

1509
01:37:57,750 --> 01:38:00,630
We never never we never really
saw the full thing unless you

1510
01:38:00,630 --> 01:38:03,600
know, you know, even YouTube was
was clip just to say the

1511
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:07,110
horrible things. Yeah, that's,
that's why we have a podcast so

1512
01:38:07,110 --> 01:38:09,150
we can roll it all out. So I

1513
01:38:09,150 --> 01:38:13,050
want to hear this almost a
minute, 30 minute portion of

1514
01:38:13,050 --> 01:38:16,410
that sermon in context, so you
can hear what he was actually

1515
01:38:16,410 --> 01:38:16,860
saying.

1516
01:38:17,340 --> 01:38:21,390
And the United States of America
government, when it came to

1517
01:38:21,390 --> 01:38:26,730
treating her citizens of Indian
descent, fairly, she failed. She

1518
01:38:26,730 --> 01:38:30,780
put them on reservations. When
it came to treating her citizens

1519
01:38:30,930 --> 01:38:35,010
of Japanese descent fairly. She
failed. She put them in

1520
01:38:35,010 --> 01:38:39,330
internment prison camps. When it
came to treating the citizens of

1521
01:38:39,330 --> 01:38:44,160
African descent family, America
failed. She put them in chains,

1522
01:38:44,280 --> 01:38:48,120
the government, put them on
slave quarters, put them on

1523
01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:52,320
action blocks and blocks, put
them in cotton fields, put them

1524
01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:56,610
in inferior schools, put them in
substandard housing, put them in

1525
01:38:56,610 --> 01:39:01,740
scientific experience, put them
in the lowest paying jobs, put

1526
01:39:01,740 --> 01:39:05,430
them outside the equal
protection of the law kept him

1527
01:39:05,460 --> 01:39:09,930
out of their racist Bassiana
higher education and locked him

1528
01:39:09,930 --> 01:39:13,800
into positions of hopelessness
and helplessness. The government

1529
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:17,700
gives in the droves, build
bigger prisons passes a three

1530
01:39:17,700 --> 01:39:22,290
strike law and then wants us to
see God bless America. No, no,

1531
01:39:22,290 --> 01:39:28,020
no, not God bless America. God
damn America that's in the Bible

1532
01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:34,710
for killing innocent people.
Damn America. Citizen. Human

1533
01:39:43,650 --> 01:39:45,240
Ah, okay.

1534
01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:49,650
Yeah, hopefully that puts this
statement into context. He

1535
01:39:49,650 --> 01:39:53,190
didn't come out the bat saying
God damn America. I would have

1536
01:39:53,580 --> 01:39:54,630
liked longer but

1537
01:39:54,660 --> 01:39:58,110
she's like fine, fine people on
both sides. I mean, if you only

1538
01:39:58,110 --> 01:40:01,260
see a little bit and you don't
get The whole context everything

1539
01:40:01,260 --> 01:40:03,750
that was said then you really
miss out on what he was saying

1540
01:40:03,750 --> 01:40:07,110
which obviously how can you
disagree with with with up until

1541
01:40:07,110 --> 01:40:09,660
he starts god damn America but
even that makes sense in

1542
01:40:09,660 --> 01:40:10,410
context.

1543
01:40:10,890 --> 01:40:14,130
But in the cotton a full context
I want to make a three minute

1544
01:40:14,130 --> 01:40:18,330
clip what he was saying was by
the standard of the Bible, all

1545
01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:25,380
these kingdoms in the Bible that
didn't do the people right God

1546
01:40:25,410 --> 01:40:29,310
took God damn right god damn
them yeah and the literal term

1547
01:40:29,310 --> 01:40:34,110
he like fire and brimstone okay
well like them on the face of

1548
01:40:34,110 --> 01:40:35,070
the earth this is

1549
01:40:35,070 --> 01:40:39,510
really telling and I wanted to
add to that he was reading that

1550
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:43,980
I heard him do a prompter flub
twice. Yeah, yeah. And

1551
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:47,700
I'm not sure he I'm sure he goes
off prompter all the time.

1552
01:40:48,480 --> 01:40:52,110
But I mean, it's not like he's
just a fiery preacher who comes

1553
01:40:52,110 --> 01:40:55,110
out of his, you know, straight
from God to His to his mouse,

1554
01:40:55,110 --> 01:41:01,140
but he was reading it, but it's
kind of it's kind of sad. I

1555
01:41:01,140 --> 01:41:03,930
mean, there comes the angry
black man bit, I guess because

1556
01:41:03,930 --> 01:41:07,380
what he's saying was, is the
total is totally on message for

1557
01:41:07,380 --> 01:41:14,190
what what what we've discussed
what we see is the problem. But

1558
01:41:14,220 --> 01:41:20,040
it's, he had to go he was the he
was he was he probably he was

1559
01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:24,360
probably, he was probably seen
as an asset who would really

1560
01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:29,730
help and somehow, I'm just gonna
go out on a limb. Maybe Fox

1561
01:41:29,730 --> 01:41:33,750
News, or one of these outfits
just started slamming the crap

1562
01:41:33,750 --> 01:41:37,380
out of the god damn America, god
damn America. And that became

1563
01:41:37,380 --> 01:41:40,230
the narrative and he had to go
then he had to go, then he got

1564
01:41:40,260 --> 01:41:44,490
like, you got to go. Sorry.
Obama even came to his defense a

1565
01:41:44,490 --> 01:41:46,200
little bit in the beginning if I
recall.

1566
01:41:47,070 --> 01:41:50,580
He did it got too hot right now.
I'm sure the Democratic Party

1567
01:41:50,580 --> 01:41:56,040
was like, gotta let him Yeah,
you gotta let him go. But Brock

1568
01:41:56,040 --> 01:41:59,430
Obama went and be the person
that he was politically if he

1569
01:41:59,430 --> 01:42:03,420
was anchored by that same Church
in Chicago, so yeah, it's like

1570
01:42:03,480 --> 01:42:06,360
it gives him one hand takes the
other How did he do that?

1571
01:42:06,390 --> 01:42:08,700
Reverend Wright? Was that how
did he do it?

1572
01:42:08,700 --> 01:42:11,190
How did it How did what happened
to Reverend Wright? Did he just

1573
01:42:11,220 --> 01:42:12,840
melt away into the background?

1574
01:42:13,650 --> 01:42:18,270
Yeah, he was. Nobody's above
Barack Obama. So once he was bad

1575
01:42:18,270 --> 01:42:22,770
for Barack Obama, he was bad for
black people. And he was cast

1576
01:42:22,770 --> 01:42:25,920
away now Reverend Wright has
some interesting background

1577
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:29,280
himself because he was like
nurses something for one of the

1578
01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:33,240
presidents or something so it's
like when you hear this man Um,

1579
01:42:33,870 --> 01:42:36,780
talk if you want to look that up
so nothing is on his wiki page

1580
01:42:36,780 --> 01:42:40,230
but um, when you hear this man
talk about god damn America it's

1581
01:42:40,230 --> 01:42:48,030
not like he's some ah a person
that hates America or never

1582
01:42:48,030 --> 01:42:52,260
believed in it. I think when
black man gets to a certain age

1583
01:42:52,260 --> 01:42:57,750
they get no disillusion. Like
when I put all my energy into

1584
01:42:57,750 --> 01:43:00,360
being a good like the man was
saying that the fear of the

1585
01:43:00,360 --> 01:43:03,480
angry black man like we did
everything right. And you say

1586
01:43:03,480 --> 01:43:06,930
you you to be a man, you got to
keep your word you said is equal

1587
01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:12,570
country. What's the problems?
Right, right. But yeah, Reverend

1588
01:43:12,570 --> 01:43:15,480
Wright has government he was in
the military. And he there's a

1589
01:43:15,480 --> 01:43:17,820
picture of him and one of the
Presidents I can't Well, he

1590
01:43:17,820 --> 01:43:21,390
actually he actually served
three presidents. He's with

1591
01:43:21,390 --> 01:43:23,100
three I know there was one for
sure. But

1592
01:43:23,460 --> 01:43:29,760
John Johnson he sort of Johnson
that's the nurse part. And he

1593
01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:33,990
also worked with Bill Clinton of
course.

1594
01:43:35,430 --> 01:43:36,960
But that made it seem like this
ferric

1595
01:43:37,440 --> 01:43:43,410
figure Wow. And you know how
that's so interesting. I in my

1596
01:43:43,410 --> 01:43:46,350
mind, I'd written Jared and the
Reverend Jeremiah first of all,

1597
01:43:46,350 --> 01:43:49,650
Reverend, so when Yeah, we don't
really know where he's coming

1598
01:43:49,650 --> 01:43:55,290
from. When we know he knows what
side the bread is buttered on

1599
01:43:55,320 --> 01:43:56,190
Lionel mommies,

1600
01:43:56,190 --> 01:43:58,770
they always give me a biscuit on
my birthday.

1601
01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:05,100
But but can't can't deny that
message. The message was right I

1602
01:44:05,100 --> 01:44:08,490
mean it would I bet I'm more
convinced now than ever that he

1603
01:44:08,490 --> 01:44:11,940
was supposed to be a part of it
and just screwed up had to go

1604
01:44:13,350 --> 01:44:16,590
yes, but this is brought going
back to the right like I said he

1605
01:44:16,590 --> 01:44:20,100
had to walk the center line.
Yeah. And it's you got the

1606
01:44:20,100 --> 01:44:23,430
revenue errors I mean, not miss
river error but the bill error

1607
01:44:25,620 --> 01:44:30,660
handling now you got this angry
Farrakhan type preacher saying,

1608
01:44:30,660 --> 01:44:34,620
God damn America, it's like,
hey, like, slow it down. You

1609
01:44:34,620 --> 01:44:37,680
need to write a speech and
things over well, not right.

1610
01:44:37,830 --> 01:44:38,820
You need to read one.

1611
01:44:39,599 --> 01:44:46,139
Yeah, well read one. So Brock
Obama, I mean, excuse me, we

1612
01:44:46,139 --> 01:44:49,559
have a clip of Larry elders.
He's talking about the sweet

1613
01:44:49,559 --> 01:44:52,739
path that was laid out for
Barack Obama. I mean, we got to

1614
01:44:52,739 --> 01:44:55,169
consider you Larry elders. He's
a conservative. So I mean,

1615
01:44:55,469 --> 01:44:59,339
obviously he has an obvious bone
to pick with Brock Obama, but I

1616
01:44:59,339 --> 01:45:02,429
think this is a fair This is a
fair assessment of how things

1617
01:45:02,429 --> 01:45:04,289
were laid out for Barry,

1618
01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:08,100
Obama misled Americans for his
own political benefit. David

1619
01:45:08,100 --> 01:45:11,670
Axelrod writes in his new book,
I'm just not very good at both.

1620
01:45:11,910 --> 01:45:15,720
Obama told Axelrod after Ron
writes that he knew Obama was in

1621
01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:18,660
favor of same sex marriage.
Axelrod admits to counseling

1622
01:45:18,660 --> 01:45:22,530
Obama to conceal his position
for political reasons. And of

1623
01:45:22,530 --> 01:45:26,820
course, let's get back to it. So
Obama then moves to Chicago, not

1624
01:45:26,820 --> 01:45:30,420
from there. He joined the trendy
church because of the his desire

1625
01:45:30,420 --> 01:45:33,990
for political connections. And
he decides to run for state

1626
01:45:33,990 --> 01:45:36,720
senate because the incumbent
decided to run for another

1627
01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:39,960
office. she changes her mind
decided to keep her office.

1628
01:45:40,110 --> 01:45:43,200
Obama said I'm sorry, I'm
staying in the race. Obama

1629
01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:46,020
didn't challenge all the
signatures he had to file to run

1630
01:45:46,020 --> 01:45:49,470
for reelection, and essentially
got her kicked off the ballot.

1631
01:45:49,530 --> 01:45:54,180
So Obama won without any
opposition. Then Obama decided

1632
01:45:54,180 --> 01:45:58,440
to challenge Bobby Rush for
Congress, he primaries him and

1633
01:45:58,440 --> 01:46:01,860
Bobby Rush the foreign Black
Panther kicks, Obama's but how

1634
01:46:01,860 --> 01:46:05,310
and why? Because he
characterizes Obama is not truly

1635
01:46:05,310 --> 01:46:09,060
black from Harvard, taught at
University of Chicago

1636
01:46:09,150 --> 01:46:12,510
Carpetbagger, not really from
Chicago, he understand the

1637
01:46:12,510 --> 01:46:15,150
culture, your blood, Senator
Obama even complained about it.

1638
01:46:15,810 --> 01:46:19,260
So what did Obama do when he got
his butt kicked? He redesigned

1639
01:46:19,260 --> 01:46:22,770
his states in the district to
make it more white. Were

1640
01:46:22,770 --> 01:46:27,360
affluent, more Jewish, less
black, less poor. They explained

1641
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:31,020
to me how racism is hurt this
man. And then he decides to run

1642
01:46:31,020 --> 01:46:34,980
for US Senate. And he's not
likely to win. But little by

1643
01:46:34,980 --> 01:46:37,650
little by little scandal and
other things. Knock off the

1644
01:46:37,650 --> 01:46:41,040
front runners he runs. And he
wins.

1645
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:44,790
And that was Axelrod Axelrod
brought out all the dirt on his

1646
01:46:44,790 --> 01:46:45,600
opponents.

1647
01:46:46,290 --> 01:46:53,760
Yeah, so that's rottenness gay.
Having his true views on gay

1648
01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:58,800
rights. That whole Joe Biden
coming out first instead of

1649
01:46:58,800 --> 01:47:02,820
brought that was all planned.
Because Barack just couldn't,

1650
01:47:03,420 --> 01:47:06,690
for lack of better term and no
pun intended, just come out of

1651
01:47:06,690 --> 01:47:09,990
the closet. You're saying and
say, hey, you know, it's I'm for

1652
01:47:09,990 --> 01:47:14,490
gay marriages now. So it's like,
Hey, Joe. You go out there, you

1653
01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:16,560
want to slip out of like,
slipping

1654
01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:19,740
me right? You out me? And then
I'm like, What am I gonna do?

1655
01:47:19,770 --> 01:47:22,350
Right? Well, that's not what's
planned that my opinion. Well,

1656
01:47:22,350 --> 01:47:22,620
that's

1657
01:47:22,650 --> 01:47:25,170
that's an interesting take.
Because the way I always saw it

1658
01:47:25,170 --> 01:47:30,000
was Joe was such a bumbling fool
that he he spilled an axe. And

1659
01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:34,290
now, now that I'm reconsidering
this, thank you. I think you're

1660
01:47:34,290 --> 01:47:38,550
right. And but you know what?
They, Joe still probably wasn't

1661
01:47:38,550 --> 01:47:43,800
part of the plan. They probably
whatever, Joe, whatever you do,

1662
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:47,130
don't talk about the gay
marriage thing. Joe. Don't talk

1663
01:47:47,130 --> 01:47:50,640
about Joe do not talk about the
gay marriage thing. Tell Joe

1664
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:53,070
talks about the gay marriage
thing and boom, and Brock was

1665
01:47:53,070 --> 01:47:57,360
like, Oh, well, you know, yeah,
you know, all the legislation

1666
01:47:57,360 --> 01:48:02,010
was ready that everything good
to go. I'm gonna agree with I'm

1667
01:48:02,010 --> 01:48:02,580
gonna agree with and

1668
01:48:02,580 --> 01:48:06,450
it was real touch and go there
and that reelection because the

1669
01:48:06,450 --> 01:48:09,720
black church because of it.
Yeah. That was a it was a it was

1670
01:48:09,720 --> 01:48:12,270
a civil war in the black church
over Obama.

1671
01:48:12,780 --> 01:48:14,910
over the over the same sex
marriage?

1672
01:48:15,300 --> 01:48:18,810
Yes. Because it's like, are we
really putting a bomb above

1673
01:48:18,810 --> 01:48:23,130
Jesus? I mean, that was the that
was the where does he

1674
01:48:23,130 --> 01:48:28,710
hang in the trilogy on the wall?
I mean, does he hang above MLK?

1675
01:48:28,950 --> 01:48:31,200
Does he hang right next to
Jesus?

1676
01:48:31,770 --> 01:48:36,480
Well, JFK comes now. Obama goes
on the go so you gotta you gotta

1677
01:48:36,480 --> 01:48:40,980
keep hear me. Okay, in bruh
Jesus, hello, Minister. What

1678
01:48:40,980 --> 01:48:47,970
after that's the liberal
feminist wall. On the General

1679
01:48:47,970 --> 01:48:55,380
black wall, is it still Jesus
MLK and Obama, Barack Obama. But

1680
01:48:55,380 --> 01:48:58,290
that silver word did happen
because it's like people that

1681
01:48:58,290 --> 01:49:04,920
are Bible based, not what you I
don't care what Obama said. But

1682
01:49:05,490 --> 01:49:09,030
at the same time, it was where
we the second term you know, we

1683
01:49:09,030 --> 01:49:13,590
gotta get the second term. This
is really witnesses. When it

1684
01:49:13,590 --> 01:49:17,070
comes to this far, keep keep our
eyes on the prize.

1685
01:49:17,580 --> 01:49:20,790
Yes shall go and push push.
Let's go is important. He's

1686
01:49:20,790 --> 01:49:22,110
going to do stuff for us.

1687
01:49:23,250 --> 01:49:27,120
Yep. And then the role laid out
for him. I want to say this one

1688
01:49:27,120 --> 01:49:31,800
thing is, I truly believe we saw
Trading Places happen in real

1689
01:49:31,800 --> 01:49:36,600
life with Barack Obama and
Senator Edwards from North

1690
01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:41,940
Carolina. I truly believe that's
the only competition Brock Obama

1691
01:49:41,940 --> 01:49:45,300
really had and he really stalled
his identity if you really look

1692
01:49:45,300 --> 01:49:50,850
at this really. Look, it wasn't
not here. I must say Harry, it

1693
01:49:50,850 --> 01:49:54,600
was not how it was my off with
the names today but Edwards he

1694
01:49:54,600 --> 01:49:57,720
had the perfect hair and he was
like the JFK reincorporate on

1695
01:49:57,720 --> 01:50:02,340
reincarnated. Within that story
came out Oh, John Edwards,

1696
01:50:02,520 --> 01:50:05,250
Edwards. They removed John
Edwards.

1697
01:50:05,310 --> 01:50:08,970
Oh, yeah, they canceled him over
a haircut. Remember that

1698
01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:11,790
they get a calcium over that.
But they were looking for

1699
01:50:11,820 --> 01:50:14,910
anything to get rid of him. Oh,
yeah. Because he stood in Brock

1700
01:50:14,910 --> 01:50:17,220
Obama's way he was in my bag.

1701
01:50:17,220 --> 01:50:21,390
He cheated on his wife. He still
campaigned for funds had a $300

1702
01:50:21,390 --> 01:50:24,660
haircut and his airplane on the
runway. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, they

1703
01:50:24,660 --> 01:50:24,840
will.

1704
01:50:25,170 --> 01:50:29,370
But prior to Brock Obama, he was
the favorite to be President

1705
01:50:29,460 --> 01:50:32,670
really needed to be a Yeah,
yeah. He does have

1706
01:50:32,970 --> 01:50:36,060
to be eliminated. He stepped
right into his shoes and was

1707
01:50:36,060 --> 01:50:40,020
like, oh, yeah, I'm the guy for
every every American. Yeah, I

1708
01:50:40,020 --> 01:50:42,480
really believe that. Not reason
why I say trading places because

1709
01:50:42,480 --> 01:50:44,430
that's kind of how the movie
went. Right? They took the one

1710
01:50:44,430 --> 01:50:49,350
guy, white guy. Yeah. Put it in.
And they're like, see mortar

1711
01:50:49,350 --> 01:50:57,030
move. Exactly. $1. Oh, good
point. So they talk about the

1712
01:50:57,060 --> 01:51:00,720
narrative of the gay rights. But
this is another narrative that

1713
01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:04,800
they had to keep running. And
that's the slave narrative, or

1714
01:51:04,800 --> 01:51:07,260
his connection to slavery. Yes.

1715
01:51:07,860 --> 01:51:09,090
His legitimacy

1716
01:51:10,230 --> 01:51:17,010
when it hit me, because I was
like, Okay. That was all for

1717
01:51:17,010 --> 01:51:20,700
Obama. I saw where the money was
coming from funding. And I was

1718
01:51:20,700 --> 01:51:22,350
like, they're not giving him
that kind of money if he's gonna

1719
01:51:22,350 --> 01:51:26,610
be a real revolution, Neri type
figure, because all the banks is

1720
01:51:26,610 --> 01:51:29,100
lined up and you're saying, the
blank checks ready, like

1721
01:51:29,100 --> 01:51:31,920
whatever you need. And that's
what I was like, oh, no, about

1722
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:38,760
this guy. And just as a small
story was, I was in Chicago,

1723
01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:42,390
actually, the day that he won
the nomination. It was me and my

1724
01:51:42,390 --> 01:51:45,960
brothers were on a road trip.
And it's just like, I have a

1725
01:51:45,960 --> 01:51:49,260
connection there. Right? Just
like I was in Chicago. Sure.

1726
01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:51,750
That must have been great. Mom,
I must have been a great we were

1727
01:51:51,750 --> 01:51:55,110
actually at this little bar. And
it was like, everybody was just

1728
01:51:55,110 --> 01:51:58,740
happy. I mean, I never remember
people being it was a black

1729
01:51:58,740 --> 01:52:02,130
establishment. So it was just
like a sense of pride. So I get

1730
01:52:02,160 --> 01:52:07,320
how people get sucked in. But
let me I just want to say at

1731
01:52:07,320 --> 01:52:10,680
point, but the slavery net
weight hit me was, I remember

1732
01:52:10,680 --> 01:52:13,920
where he was. And I woke up the
next morning, and I saw a

1733
01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:16,650
picture this little old lady and
he said, from slavery to the

1734
01:52:16,650 --> 01:52:21,090
White House. It was like Obama
and there have been no slaves.

1735
01:52:24,150 --> 01:52:25,200
But they were talking about,

1736
01:52:25,410 --> 01:52:26,310
Oh,

1737
01:52:26,340 --> 01:52:31,170
y'all, nudging me? knew what a
nudge word by this felt this.

1738
01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:35,670
Oh, y'all are playing with us.
So this whole narrative and then

1739
01:52:35,670 --> 01:52:39,780
people start getting hit like,
he's not really one of us. I

1740
01:52:39,780 --> 01:52:42,030
mean, that's what brought me
Rush was saying right, and when

1741
01:52:42,030 --> 01:52:46,560
he ran against him, he's not
really one of us. So there was

1742
01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:51,720
this concerted effort to keep
Brock Obama toxic slavery. And

1743
01:52:51,720 --> 01:52:54,450
if they couldn't do it through
him, they did it through

1744
01:52:54,450 --> 01:52:54,990
Michelle.

1745
01:52:55,589 --> 01:52:58,649
This morning. We are learning
fascinating details of Michelle

1746
01:52:58,649 --> 01:53:03,239
Obama's roots. today's New York
Times traces her family's five

1747
01:53:03,239 --> 01:53:09,359
generation path from slavery to
the White House. We're joined

1748
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this morning by genealogist
Megan smolenyak who uncovered

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01:53:12,299 --> 01:53:16,199
Mrs. Obama's family tree. Good
morning. This is what this is

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01:53:16,229 --> 01:53:21,209
almost a mystery. We we knew for
certain that on her father's

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01:53:21,209 --> 01:53:24,389
side of the family that the
trace back to slavery, but there

1752
01:53:24,389 --> 01:53:28,169
were rumors about on her
mother's side. How did you make

1753
01:53:28,169 --> 01:53:30,359
the connection and who was the
key person?

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01:53:30,570 --> 01:53:32,970
Well, I'll tell you I worked
back methodically generation by

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01:53:32,970 --> 01:53:36,000
generation, but of all her
ancestors. The one who called to

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01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:39,510
me the most loudly was when they
Melvina, who was a great, great,

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01:53:39,540 --> 01:53:43,290
great grandmother. And she was
just fascinating. For example, I

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01:53:43,290 --> 01:53:46,590
found a codicil on her from
1850, where she's first

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01:53:46,590 --> 01:53:50,190
mentioned, she's only six years
old. And in that document, her

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01:53:50,190 --> 01:53:53,130
first owner, a fella by the name
of David Patterson is leaving

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01:53:53,130 --> 01:53:55,560
her to his wife when he passes
away or it

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01:53:55,559 --> 01:53:58,889
is I mean, there is the actual
will and testament and this

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01:53:58,919 --> 01:54:02,999
little girl is named she's six
years old. She's also listed in

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01:54:02,999 --> 01:54:06,299
another I mean, it is listed as
a piece of property. What is

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01:54:06,299 --> 01:54:06,989
your value?

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01:54:07,349 --> 01:54:09,359
$475

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01:54:09,959 --> 01:54:16,799
Oh, man, that got it all. That's
fantastic. From 475 to 500

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01:54:16,799 --> 01:54:17,279
million.

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01:54:18,390 --> 01:54:21,960
Yep, property, she's property
but nobody questioned Michelle's

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01:54:21,990 --> 01:54:25,200
lineage to slavery. I mean, that
wasn't a question. So they had

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01:54:25,200 --> 01:54:29,370
to keep digging. And then they
thought a new discovery of

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01:54:29,370 --> 01:54:30,570
Obama's ancestry.

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01:54:30,720 --> 01:54:34,260
President Obama's story is well
known his father from Kenya, his

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01:54:34,260 --> 01:54:37,830
mother from the United States,
but ancestry.com says it has

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01:54:37,830 --> 01:54:42,480
mapped out the Obama family tree
going back 11 generations with

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01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:46,140
stunning conclusion. Anastasia
Harmon is the company's lead

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01:54:46,140 --> 01:54:47,250
family historian.

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01:54:47,490 --> 01:54:51,360
Our conclusion is that President
Obama's first African American

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01:54:51,360 --> 01:54:55,530
president is the 11th great
grandson of the first documented

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01:54:55,530 --> 01:54:57,300
enslaved African in what was

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01:54:58,590 --> 01:55:01,860
the link is made not from his
father's side, but from his

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01:55:01,860 --> 01:55:05,790
mother and Dunham's lineage, she
was connected back to a man

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01:55:05,790 --> 01:55:09,720
named John Punch, record show
punch who lived in Virginia had

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01:55:09,720 --> 01:55:12,960
children with a white woman.
Those children later became

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01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:17,190
known as the bunch family. The
findings of the two year study

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01:55:17,220 --> 01:55:21,330
are now posted on the company's
website. So how did the research

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01:55:21,330 --> 01:55:23,130
team figure this out? As we're

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01:55:23,130 --> 01:55:26,100
going, you know, from President
Obama to his mom and grandmother

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01:55:26,100 --> 01:55:29,310
and great grandmother, you're
looking for, like birth and

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01:55:29,310 --> 01:55:32,040
marriage and death records, all
those kind of records as we get

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01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:35,190
farther back in time, though,
they weren't kept or they've

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01:55:35,190 --> 01:55:37,800
been destroyed over time, the
Civil War, a lot of records are

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01:55:37,800 --> 01:55:40,890
destroyed, fires, floods and
things like that. So we start

1794
01:55:40,890 --> 01:55:43,140
looking at what we call
surviving records, church

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01:55:43,140 --> 01:55:46,440
records, land records. And so
when we get really far back into

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01:55:46,440 --> 01:55:51,570
like, your John bunch, the third
who's born in 1680, he from here

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01:55:51,570 --> 01:55:53,010
on out we're looking at Land
Records,

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01:55:53,040 --> 01:55:56,760
University of Maryland history
professor I Oberlin says all of

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01:55:56,760 --> 01:56:00,570
this is perfectly plausible,
because there was a time when

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01:56:00,570 --> 01:56:04,710
white indentured servants and
black slaves freely intermingled

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01:56:05,460 --> 01:56:08,520
Oh, oh, as before Black Lives
Matter.

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01:56:09,330 --> 01:56:16,740
Yeah. So the first black
president, son of Stanley named

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01:56:16,740 --> 01:56:20,640
Barack Hussein Obama, is
connected to the first slave

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01:56:20,640 --> 01:56:24,720
ever Exactly. In America. What
are the chances white mama sighs

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01:56:24,750 --> 01:56:25,200
Thank you.

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01:56:25,200 --> 01:56:26,670
ancestry.com.

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01:56:28,170 --> 01:56:34,200
Maybe we'll get out of here with
we have the time they will fill

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01:56:34,200 --> 01:56:36,480
in the pressure. They were they
had they had

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01:56:36,480 --> 01:56:40,890
to do so. We gotta do it. Gotta
find slavery. Yes. Wow.

1810
01:56:41,910 --> 01:56:49,980
But the magic world. And even
his most ardent supporters

1811
01:56:51,900 --> 01:56:57,750
became disillusioned with Brock
Obama and his whole do nothing

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01:56:57,750 --> 01:57:01,230
attitude for black people. And
one of those being Michael Eric

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01:57:01,230 --> 01:57:05,730
Dyson. And so I have a clip from
Michael Eric Dyson, then, and

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01:57:05,730 --> 01:57:09,540
then we're gonna go and see how
he's become dissatisfied and

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01:57:10,350 --> 01:57:15,300
angry, angry black man.
President Obama. So let's start

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01:57:15,300 --> 01:57:17,640
off with 30.

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01:57:18,180 --> 01:57:23,040
We began with Barack Obama's
election to believe many did

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01:57:23,190 --> 01:57:27,780
that we're living in a post
racial society. Vin Been there

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01:57:27,780 --> 01:57:32,820
done black over with it. And
what happened, of course, is

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01:57:32,820 --> 01:57:38,100
that Barack Obama unexpectedly
to some just evoked all of this

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01:57:38,130 --> 01:57:43,440
racial animus and hostility. You
mentioned Dylann Roof, the young

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01:57:43,440 --> 01:57:47,130
white man who murdered nine
people in that Charleston

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01:57:47,130 --> 01:57:50,400
church. He wrote a kind of
crazed manifesto and in it he

1824
01:57:50,400 --> 01:57:53,790
said, You people are taking over
basically I have to do this.

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01:57:53,820 --> 01:57:54,690
Yeah, that's

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01:57:59,580 --> 01:58:06,510
a whole nother story. Dylann
Roof is manifesto of sorts. He

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01:58:06,510 --> 01:58:08,310
wrote this. Oh, convenient.

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01:58:09,000 --> 01:58:12,750
Yeah, that was Mayor Eric. My
Apps give me Michael Eric Dyson,

1829
01:58:12,780 --> 01:58:19,380
then caping for Obama and Obama
explaining away all his issues,

1830
01:58:19,620 --> 01:58:23,970
issues. Now let's Well, where
are you at one,

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01:58:24,389 --> 01:58:26,789
what people were trying to get
Obama to do? It ain't just about

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01:58:26,789 --> 01:58:30,389
legislation, use your voice and
speak up. Not know he's that

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01:58:30,389 --> 01:58:32,519
office. Now. I love him. I want
him to make as much money as you

1834
01:58:32,519 --> 01:58:38,789
can. But don't just make money.
Make meanings speak. Sir. You

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01:58:38,789 --> 01:58:41,489
have the bully pulpit of the
world before you you just can

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01:58:41,489 --> 01:58:46,079
accumulate chips and cash and
make money and I ain't mad at

1837
01:58:46,079 --> 01:58:48,869
you make all the money you want.
Make all the money you need get

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01:58:48,869 --> 01:58:52,949
your paper, but speak up about
Donald Trump you out of office.

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01:58:52,949 --> 01:58:55,199
When you're in office, we made
excuses for you. Oh my god, he

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01:58:55,199 --> 01:58:57,989
can't talk because they allow
voting you ain't gotta be voted

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01:58:57,989 --> 01:59:01,769
on Office no matter where you're
at. Obama we love you. I know a

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01:59:01,769 --> 01:59:04,259
lot of black people gonna be mad
but speak up.

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01:59:04,290 --> 01:59:05,580
We feel it needs to do more.

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01:59:05,610 --> 01:59:09,540
Oh my God more. What is he done?
What does he does name it? What

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01:59:09,540 --> 01:59:11,130
have you done? What have you
done? Since you've been on the

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01:59:11,130 --> 01:59:14,520
office? You spoke up for one
politician and said she should

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01:59:14,520 --> 01:59:17,400
be in office. You ain't helped
out no black people. You You You

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01:59:17,400 --> 01:59:21,210
certainly you undermine the
candidacy of Keith Ellison to be

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01:59:21,210 --> 01:59:26,280
head of the Democratic National
Committee. Right DNC and get

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01:59:26,280 --> 01:59:29,280
your man in a man Perez is a
good dude. But I'm saying you

1851
01:59:29,280 --> 01:59:32,700
undermined the black man. So the
black man that people suffered

1852
01:59:32,700 --> 01:59:35,550
for who were black, and who said
he should be supported

1853
01:59:35,580 --> 01:59:37,770
undermined the black man ain't
got nothing to say about it. I

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01:59:37,770 --> 01:59:39,150
know your man. tough.

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01:59:40,740 --> 01:59:45,330
Tough. What's the word? I mean,
this this has got to be a, this

1856
01:59:45,330 --> 01:59:49,470
has got to be a common question
what you do in Baroque. Once you

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01:59:49,470 --> 01:59:51,090
say it anywhere, everybody,

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01:59:51,450 --> 01:59:55,980
as he only comes out when he's
allowed to? I mean, because it's

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01:59:55,980 --> 01:59:59,970
clear. He's told what he can
speak on. And when he can't

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02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:03,750
speakerphone. But Michael Eric
Dyson did something tricky

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02:00:03,750 --> 02:00:07,080
there. Can you say? What have
you done? And then he had to

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02:00:07,080 --> 02:00:12,360
think about like, oh, I cosign
his whole year. Part of it.

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02:00:12,360 --> 02:00:13,650
Yeah. Right.

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02:00:13,710 --> 02:00:14,910
What have you done?

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02:00:16,920 --> 02:00:23,370
Yes, right. No, wait, I cosign.
Lucky Eva. See,

1866
02:00:23,400 --> 02:00:26,520
you know what I always thought,
I always thought that the plan

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02:00:26,520 --> 02:00:30,780
was is is going to sound weird.
There was like a president of

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02:00:30,780 --> 02:00:35,160
the World slot for Obama. And
that was, you know, just taking

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02:00:35,460 --> 02:00:39,600
you in like that. Yeah. So
something along those lines, I

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02:00:39,600 --> 02:00:42,210
mean, it would have he was young
enough, you know, he's young

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02:00:42,210 --> 02:00:46,680
enough to take 10 years, 15
years to to create something if

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02:00:46,680 --> 02:00:50,130
Hillary Clinton become
president, we might have

1873
02:00:50,130 --> 02:00:55,530
actually seen Black Lives Matter
turn out very differently. And

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02:00:56,040 --> 02:00:59,610
just look at some of the cities
that are in on it. It's obvious

1875
02:00:59,610 --> 02:01:02,760
now, I mean, you don't leave
people burning crap down to your

1876
02:01:02,760 --> 02:01:06,750
city for for eight weeks. So
there was some I always thought

1877
02:01:06,750 --> 02:01:11,940
there was some plan and then
Brock Obama would emerge and you

1878
02:01:11,940 --> 02:01:15,060
know, what? reaches out. Oh,
well,

1879
02:01:15,450 --> 02:01:20,070
so you said you sound like that
has expired. I think that's an I

1880
02:01:20,070 --> 02:01:22,590
said it before. I think this
would this Oh, Joe Biden thing

1881
02:01:22,590 --> 02:01:27,690
is Joe Biden is the perfect
proxy for Barack Obama to run

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02:01:27,690 --> 02:01:29,880
the country without taking any
blame

1883
02:01:29,910 --> 02:01:33,120
right. Now. No, I'm with that.
But I thought it was going to be

1884
02:01:33,120 --> 02:01:34,920
bigger. I thought it was going
to be a bigger thing.

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02:01:36,030 --> 02:01:39,960
Yeah, he can't hear me. Yeah, he
can't really do that. Because.

1886
02:01:41,010 --> 02:01:45,480
But he's, I think people
disillusion me like, people down

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02:01:45,480 --> 02:01:48,660
with him. It's like he, he I
mean, he's literally like being

1888
02:01:48,660 --> 02:01:51,360
canceled for I mean, to be
honest with the people that got

1889
02:01:51,360 --> 02:01:55,650
him there. He can't activate
them to go vote. So what good is

1890
02:01:55,650 --> 02:01:55,890
he?

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02:02:00,060 --> 02:02:03,030
That's it. That's all you got to
say. He can't activate people to

1892
02:02:03,030 --> 02:02:05,790
vote. So he's just no good. He's
new to her. Hi.

1893
02:02:05,790 --> 02:02:10,050
Talk to the last I mean, for
Hillary Clinton. Yeah. Don't

1894
02:02:10,050 --> 02:02:11,520
clap. Oh, vote. You say?

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02:02:12,990 --> 02:02:14,910
My legacy. Yeah,

1896
02:02:14,969 --> 02:02:20,609
right. For my legacy. Yes. For
me. But Eric Michael, Eric

1897
02:02:20,609 --> 02:02:26,399
Dyson, he didn't stop there.
Where are you brought? What

1898
02:02:26,399 --> 02:02:29,699
reality that what do you think
is that the what you see is

1899
02:02:29,700 --> 02:02:31,650
a lack of willingness

1900
02:02:31,650 --> 02:02:34,140
to engage. I mean, that's his
personality. That's that who

1901
02:02:34,140 --> 02:02:37,650
winds to chill out personality.
And that's also he's not he and

1902
02:02:37,650 --> 02:02:42,510
got the same kind of a ethos,
pathos, pain, hurt, and agony

1903
02:02:42,510 --> 02:02:44,850
that black people have had. I'm
not saying he's not black.

1904
02:02:44,850 --> 02:02:47,310
That's not what I'm saying. I'm
not saying he truly black, he is

1905
02:02:47,370 --> 02:02:49,680
black and a lot of black people
I know. But he didn't have that

1906
02:02:49,680 --> 02:02:52,260
existential misery growing up in
the same way. He doesn't have

1907
02:02:52,260 --> 02:02:57,000
the same anger, necessarily that
black people have that were

1908
02:02:57,000 --> 02:02:59,100
outraged by this stuff. He
didn't fill it in his gut the

1909
02:02:59,100 --> 02:03:02,130
same way I'm not sending a black
is blacker than black. I've

1910
02:03:02,130 --> 02:03:04,710
known Obama since 92, one of the
blackest dudes I know. But what

1911
02:03:04,710 --> 02:03:08,190
I'm saying is that you're being
black and getting to do with the

1912
02:03:08,190 --> 02:03:11,490
kind of blackness and the kind
of experience that you that you

1913
02:03:11,490 --> 02:03:14,790
had and endure. And so you don't
you don't feel driven to speak

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02:03:14,790 --> 02:03:17,940
out. You don't you're not LeBron
James, who said, I'm gonna

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02:03:17,940 --> 02:03:20,820
represent for my neighborhood
where I came from, regardless of

1916
02:03:20,820 --> 02:03:24,450
all the cash I get, and it's
time to put the fire under Obama

1917
02:03:24,450 --> 02:03:28,770
to you out to office now, all
the Negro excuses made for you

1918
02:03:28,770 --> 02:03:32,970
while you were in office, to,
for us to say, Wait a second, if

1919
02:03:32,970 --> 02:03:35,070
you don't do something, wait to
the last half of the second

1920
02:03:35,070 --> 02:03:37,860
term, he gonna do something.
What do you do? And I'm saying

1921
02:03:37,860 --> 02:03:41,130
finally got on to criminal
justice reform. Okay. And I'm

1922
02:03:41,130 --> 02:03:43,410
saying this out of love for a
bum. I know, there's some Negro

1923
02:03:43,410 --> 02:03:46,080
bots out there. There's some
Obama bots who can't hear

1924
02:03:46,080 --> 02:03:48,630
nothing. They just as bad. Let
me tell you what, Obama bots are

1925
02:03:48,630 --> 02:03:51,330
just as bad as these Trump
supporters who can't hear

1926
02:03:51,330 --> 02:03:54,390
criticism. If it's your guy, be
willing to say, You know what, I

1927
02:03:54,390 --> 02:03:56,070
love him. I'm gonna ride with
him right at that, but there's

1928
02:03:56,070 --> 02:03:58,920
some stuff he could have done
better. Wow.

1929
02:03:59,250 --> 02:03:59,880
I heard Jay

1930
02:04:00,389 --> 02:04:04,199
was heard you talked in there.
It was really funny.

1931
02:04:04,890 --> 02:04:10,320
What Eric, what happened is Eric
leads to hitch his wagon to

1932
02:04:10,410 --> 02:04:15,690
Obama's train. And now the train
is not moving off the rails. So

1933
02:04:15,690 --> 02:04:20,250
now it's like, well, where's the
most lucrative angle on Obama?

1934
02:04:20,250 --> 02:04:23,250
And that's question to him.
Where are you? You know, we get

1935
02:04:23,250 --> 02:04:26,970
all these excuses. And yes, you
are saying and I'll say it for

1936
02:04:26,970 --> 02:04:31,470
you. Barack Obama is not black.
I will say it. There you have

1937
02:04:31,470 --> 02:04:35,610
it. He keep tiptoe around it.
And he realized he said it. He

1938
02:04:35,610 --> 02:04:38,700
had to walk it back for the next
1520 seconds. Well, I'm not

1939
02:04:38,700 --> 02:04:40,530
saying he's not black. He's

1940
02:04:41,730 --> 02:04:42,930
he's more black than black.

1941
02:04:44,610 --> 02:04:46,860
He's black and in the back of
forest Whitaker's neck, I mean,

1942
02:04:46,860 --> 02:04:53,340
like. So he did that. So he
didn't say anything Bobby Rush

1943
02:04:53,340 --> 02:04:58,320
did but then he's like, I went a
little too far and had to back

1944
02:04:58,320 --> 02:05:01,770
it. No reason why I said black
He's not black, if you want to

1945
02:05:01,770 --> 02:05:09,510
say Black is a creation of black
ink, he didn't hold true to what

1946
02:05:09,510 --> 02:05:12,330
he was supposed to do. Right?
And that's the throw black

1947
02:05:12,330 --> 02:05:16,860
people. Either the thought his
weight behind their their

1948
02:05:16,860 --> 02:05:20,910
causes, even if he can't get
them changed at least last year

1949
02:05:20,910 --> 02:05:24,630
for making an effort. He
couldn't say reparations for

1950
02:05:24,660 --> 02:05:27,120
everything else every question
like brought what you want for

1951
02:05:27,120 --> 02:05:29,490
much reparations. I mean, that
kind of thing. So

1952
02:05:31,080 --> 02:05:34,860
you're so right. You're so and
if he would have left saying the

1953
02:05:34,860 --> 02:05:38,760
only thing we haven't gotten
done yet America is this? It

1954
02:05:38,760 --> 02:05:40,920
would, it would have been left
lingering. And it would have

1955
02:05:40,920 --> 02:05:43,230
been a question that would have
been on everybody's mind, but we

1956
02:05:43,230 --> 02:05:46,830
know that that's not the way it
works. And always

1957
02:05:46,830 --> 02:05:49,650
how he talks is when it comes
down to voting, and it's just

1958
02:05:49,650 --> 02:05:52,170
saying that he brought up brocco
bomb Eric Dyson brought up

1959
02:05:52,950 --> 02:05:56,370
Lebron James. It's the same
thing. They are funded by the

1960
02:05:56,370 --> 02:05:59,430
same group of people that you
can speak on what we allow you

1961
02:05:59,430 --> 02:06:06,930
to speak on Yeah, but China No.
Reparations No. If you want to

1962
02:06:06,930 --> 02:06:09,840
talk about putting silly names
on black jerseys or whatever it

1963
02:06:09,840 --> 02:06:15,390
go go for voting go for it. But
other things no. So they're

1964
02:06:16,110 --> 02:06:20,820
their own in a sense. I mean,
it's no no easy way to put it in

1965
02:06:21,360 --> 02:06:24,390
to say and I mean, let me flesh
out what I'm saying. So I don't

1966
02:06:24,390 --> 02:06:27,030
sound like Michael Eric Dyson
backpedal, backpedaling on if

1967
02:06:27,030 --> 02:06:29,490
he's black and matte, and if he
wants a minimum of two

1968
02:06:29,490 --> 02:06:35,010
definitions of black we laid out
on the last show, yeah, if

1969
02:06:35,010 --> 02:06:38,190
you're talking about lineage,
he's not black, right? He is

1970
02:06:38,190 --> 02:06:42,180
not. You're not a Das, which
that is synonymous with black,

1971
02:06:42,180 --> 02:06:44,760
which they stretched it out to
mean, whatever they want to now

1972
02:06:44,760 --> 02:06:48,750
with these two definitions, but
like I said, I'm a really bad

1973
02:06:48,750 --> 02:06:53,550
but no, by the debt, two
definitions. He is not black,

1974
02:06:54,030 --> 02:06:57,450
that was laid out, but not my
definition that was laid out by

1975
02:06:57,450 --> 02:06:59,490
Miss colors in her own

1976
02:06:59,519 --> 02:07:03,779
Yes. And last China said that
Dyson here that he can't just be

1977
02:07:03,779 --> 02:07:06,449
honest about it. And he had to
double down because he kind of

1978
02:07:06,449 --> 02:07:09,329
flubbed it. It's kind of sad.

1979
02:07:10,200 --> 02:07:14,940
When he asked he, liberal
universities, well, that's,

1980
02:07:15,720 --> 02:07:20,280
that's why we do a podcast. So
we can actually say these things

1981
02:07:20,280 --> 02:07:22,320
and get down to some brass
tacks.

1982
02:07:23,070 --> 02:07:26,010
And speaking of what we do, I
think it's a good time to

1983
02:07:26,010 --> 02:07:28,200
explain people exactly what we
do.

1984
02:07:28,500 --> 02:07:31,650
First, the white man and the
black man have to be able to sit

1985
02:07:31,650 --> 02:07:34,740
down at the same table, the
white man has to feel free to

1986
02:07:34,740 --> 02:07:37,770
speak his mind without hurting
the feelings of that negro. And

1987
02:07:37,770 --> 02:07:40,890
the so called Negro has to feel
free to speak his mind without

1988
02:07:40,890 --> 02:07:43,590
hurting the feeling of the white
man, then they can bring the

1989
02:07:43,590 --> 02:07:46,350
issues that are under the rug
out on top of the table and take

1990
02:07:46,350 --> 02:07:48,750
an intelligent approach to get
the problem solved. What's the

1991
02:07:48,750 --> 02:07:50,220
only way we'll ever do it?

1992
02:07:50,340 --> 02:07:53,610
Yes. And the only way that will
ever work is without corporate

1993
02:07:53,610 --> 02:07:57,990
interest. And pharmaceutical
companies wanting to advertise

1994
02:07:57,990 --> 02:08:02,610
in any kind of corporate funding
of this will not work, it has to

1995
02:08:02,610 --> 02:08:06,060
be two men sitting at the table
hashing stuff out. And that's

1996
02:08:06,060 --> 02:08:09,870
why we have adopted the value
for value model here on mo

1997
02:08:09,870 --> 02:08:16,170
factor that hurry. And I'd like
to thank our executive and

1998
02:08:16,170 --> 02:08:19,530
Associate Executive and other
producers for episode number, we

1999
02:08:19,530 --> 02:08:22,560
had to 44 Of course, never
forget that. Yes, episode number

2000
02:08:22,560 --> 02:08:27,180
44. And again, this is you get
out of it, what you put into it

2001
02:08:27,210 --> 02:08:30,030
is a lot of work that goes into
this and a lot of time and

2002
02:08:30,030 --> 02:08:33,870
effort. And the only way for it
to be sustainable, and for it to

2003
02:08:33,870 --> 02:08:37,350
grow quite honestly. Because who
knows, we could take this, you

2004
02:08:37,350 --> 02:08:42,570
know, where we could take us.
The sky is the limit Mo. We just

2005
02:08:42,570 --> 02:08:46,680
have to do the work and we'll
get there. But we can't do

2006
02:08:46,680 --> 02:08:49,620
without your help. And that's
why I'm very pleased to start

2007
02:08:49,620 --> 02:08:53,700
off by thanking Jackie green
actually think the Green family

2008
02:08:53,700 --> 02:08:58,980
who came in with the magic
numbers 333 33 And a note that

2009
02:08:58,980 --> 02:09:01,650
says great new episode fellas
Keep up the good work love from

2010
02:09:01,650 --> 02:09:04,560
the Green family. Is this. Now
we know the Green family they've

2011
02:09:04,560 --> 02:09:05,970
donated before have they not?

2012
02:09:06,810 --> 02:09:07,620
I believe so.

2013
02:09:07,710 --> 02:09:11,340
I believe Mr. Green, Mrs. Green
have donated separately now it's

2014
02:09:11,340 --> 02:09:13,230
the whole family. I think that's
what it Yeah,

2015
02:09:13,290 --> 02:09:15,150
I think sound they're different
names. I think that's why I

2016
02:09:15,150 --> 02:09:17,940
don't recognize the name. But I
remember the Green family.

2017
02:09:18,090 --> 02:09:22,260
Well, we really appreciate that
support. That's fantastic. And

2018
02:09:22,260 --> 02:09:24,630
now you're a top executive
producer. We'll put the whole

2019
02:09:24,630 --> 02:09:28,440
family in there just to make it
to make it clear. Eric Darian

2020
02:09:28,590 --> 02:09:31,890
checks in was $200. No agenda
night here. I heard I've heard

2021
02:09:31,890 --> 02:09:34,740
Adam talking about the show for
a while. And at the urging of my

2022
02:09:34,740 --> 02:09:37,980
fellow na listener rod Williams
I decided to give it a listen. I

2023
02:09:37,980 --> 02:09:42,930
am so glad I did. Thanks for the
insights I cannot get anywhere

2024
02:09:42,960 --> 02:09:48,240
else. That's error to Darien
from California. Thank you. Era.

2025
02:09:48,720 --> 02:09:52,830
I'm glad you're glad you huge
showed up. Enjoy and

2026
02:09:52,860 --> 02:09:56,670
archive.mo facts.com goes all
the way back to episode number

2027
02:09:56,670 --> 02:09:59,970
one and I might want to point
out that in exactly one week

2028
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:06,150
From today I think it's going to
be one with no less than a week.

2029
02:10:06,870 --> 02:10:11,490
Less than a week July 31 will be
our one year anniversary one

2030
02:10:11,490 --> 02:10:15,060
year of Mo facts with Adam curry
that went by fast mo

2031
02:10:17,279 --> 02:10:20,189
went by fast but it's been like
a slow motion. It's like it's

2032
02:10:20,189 --> 02:10:25,199
weird. It's a weird the time
went by fast but like it's made

2033
02:10:25,229 --> 02:10:29,369
every day. Eventful? Yes, I
guess it's slow down two days

2034
02:10:29,369 --> 02:10:33,659
but the time when the lapse in
time when was huge. Well, if you

2035
02:10:33,659 --> 02:10:36,779
look and I will also want to say
thanks for Rod rod Williams as

2036
02:10:36,779 --> 02:10:38,699
well for doing the doing the
work.

2037
02:10:40,260 --> 02:10:43,050
Doing the important work. But
look at the body. Look at the

2038
02:10:43,050 --> 02:10:47,010
body of work that there has been
a lot with it. Well yet 1200

2039
02:10:47,010 --> 02:10:57,150
hours of content or 120 220? No.
1200 1200 is incredible. Yes. 23

2040
02:10:57,150 --> 02:11:00,330
times yeah. Hey, yeah, whatever
it is, it's more than 24. It

2041
02:11:00,330 --> 02:11:06,630
sounds like a lot of work. So,
and the learning on both sides,

2042
02:11:06,630 --> 02:11:09,990
just just it's been enriched my
life. I'm incredibly happy.

2043
02:11:10,050 --> 02:11:11,760
Yeah. Can Can we start

2044
02:11:11,760 --> 02:11:17,010
right here to talk about the
pitch in order? How we want to

2045
02:11:17,010 --> 02:11:17,460
do that?

2046
02:11:17,490 --> 02:11:20,760
Yes. Because and I'll give you
my immediate input. So we've

2047
02:11:20,760 --> 02:11:24,510
been talking about instituting
levels for the value for value

2048
02:11:24,510 --> 02:11:27,240
system, we have to do it. We're
following the model that no

2049
02:11:27,240 --> 02:11:32,760
agenda, and no agenda producers
birth, and over many years, and

2050
02:11:32,760 --> 02:11:36,930
it works. And so the idea is we
have levels and then you receive

2051
02:11:36,930 --> 02:11:41,280
a reward for achieving certain
support levels. And with the no

2052
02:11:41,280 --> 02:11:45,390
agenda show, we have Knights and
Dames, and they become Knights

2053
02:11:45,390 --> 02:11:48,750
and Dames of the no agenda
roundtable. So we were looking

2054
02:11:48,750 --> 02:11:55,560
for an analog here. And I I
liked it. A lot of people say

2055
02:11:55,560 --> 02:11:58,770
the same thing, although I'm not
really sure it's the right one.

2056
02:11:58,770 --> 02:11:59,910
And specifically,

2057
02:12:00,090 --> 02:12:03,330
I know shooter. Yeah, honestly,
every time see when it's kind of

2058
02:12:03,330 --> 02:12:04,080
like, well,

2059
02:12:04,110 --> 02:12:06,990
I'll give you my thoughts. So
people say we should have this

2060
02:12:07,020 --> 02:12:12,600
this level be invited to the
cookout? I'm like, no, no, no,

2061
02:12:12,600 --> 02:12:16,170
no, that's that that feels
wrong. That sounds wrong. It's

2062
02:12:16,170 --> 02:12:20,250
like what are you talking about?
It that's it's not the right way

2063
02:12:20,250 --> 02:12:23,670
to go is my feeling. I'm looking
forward to hearing your opinion.

2064
02:12:25,440 --> 02:12:29,820
We've said it in jest several
times on this show. And other

2065
02:12:29,820 --> 02:12:31,920
times doing the work.

2066
02:12:32,040 --> 02:12:34,110
I think the work is

2067
02:12:34,110 --> 02:12:38,130
there in literally doing. And
then the other thing is, when

2068
02:12:38,130 --> 02:12:45,540
you say it to somebody, it'll be
Oh, you are and then like so. We

2069
02:12:45,540 --> 02:12:49,260
hit her certainly. And I was
looking for a hierarchy of terms

2070
02:12:49,260 --> 02:12:52,650
they use like ally and those
kinds of things. So went out

2071
02:12:52,650 --> 02:12:55,860
there. Let's just call out their
hell. They call out everything

2072
02:12:56,040 --> 02:12:59,160
you're saying. Anyway, so we'll
just call out from them. We're

2073
02:12:59,160 --> 02:13:02,490
doing the work. And we hit a
certain level we got to still

2074
02:13:02,490 --> 02:13:06,030
decide the level that your ally
and you can say, You know what?

2075
02:13:07,170 --> 02:13:12,660
I am an ally of the Mo Mo facts
and Adam curry podcast. You

2076
02:13:12,660 --> 02:13:16,470
know, international podcast so I
am an ally and I'm doing the

2077
02:13:16,470 --> 02:13:19,440
word that way. We interracial

2078
02:13:19,440 --> 02:13:21,990
are we intersectional. That's
the question.

2079
02:13:23,430 --> 02:13:25,500
I don't know. What are we Adam?

2080
02:13:27,570 --> 02:13:30,960
Well, don't tell anybody what we
really are. No,

2081
02:13:31,830 --> 02:13:33,930
put a label. You had to put a
label on it.

2082
02:13:34,860 --> 02:13:40,320
Okay, we're back and we're we're
salt and pepper. We're ebony and

2083
02:13:40,320 --> 02:13:42,600
ivory? What the hell? What we
are?

2084
02:13:43,680 --> 02:13:46,920
Oh, no, but I think doing the
work um, because then it's just

2085
02:13:47,010 --> 02:13:51,840
hey, are you doing the work? You
do? And I didn't ally and we

2086
02:13:51,840 --> 02:13:57,870
come up with with hierarchy of
ally and that kind of thing. But

2087
02:13:57,870 --> 02:14:00,960
once you hit a certain I think
once you contribute to the show,

2088
02:14:00,960 --> 02:14:05,190
you're already an ally. Yeah,
yeah. You because You already

2089
02:14:05,190 --> 02:14:08,790
done the work? Well, then maybe
you become that was just my

2090
02:14:08,790 --> 02:14:09,720
opinion. That was

2091
02:14:10,590 --> 02:14:13,800
okay, we're gonna leave it up to
our producers who will have to

2092
02:14:13,800 --> 02:14:16,890
do the work and let us know what
they think of levels. I like the

2093
02:14:16,890 --> 02:14:21,960
idea of doing the work. It's so
ridiculous, but it's also true.

2094
02:14:22,680 --> 02:14:26,070
It's true. It's 100 But you
could not do better you could

2095
02:14:26,070 --> 02:14:30,870
not do the work better than by
being a producer and just

2096
02:14:30,900 --> 02:14:34,380
enjoying the converse the
conversation that is

2097
02:14:34,410 --> 02:14:35,730
not enjoying it.

2098
02:14:35,760 --> 02:14:38,760
They're studying it they're
doing the work

2099
02:14:39,900 --> 02:14:42,330
they're supporting the
conversation. That's what

2100
02:14:42,330 --> 02:14:45,060
they're doing right they're
bringing note support a give us

2101
02:14:45,060 --> 02:14:48,930
motive become it Yeah,
supporting so you can support

2102
02:14:49,260 --> 02:14:51,960
ally supporting some of the most
important one of the most

2103
02:14:51,960 --> 02:14:55,320
important conversations of our
generation. Oh, are you doing

2104
02:14:55,320 --> 02:14:55,680
the work?

2105
02:14:55,680 --> 02:15:02,760
That's it? Yeah. What are you
doing? Worker you Doing alright,

2106
02:15:03,060 --> 02:15:07,200
we move on to Brian Martin with
that with 193 90. Interesting

2107
02:15:07,200 --> 02:15:11,010
number Mo, have you, you have
expanded my mind and thinking on

2108
02:15:11,010 --> 02:15:13,680
the topic of race and human
relations through American

2109
02:15:13,680 --> 02:15:17,310
history, we are in a confusing
time devoid of logic and sense,

2110
02:15:17,310 --> 02:15:21,210
I could articulate what I saw as
the contradiction, but could not

2111
02:15:21,210 --> 02:15:24,060
elaborate on the forces behind
it. Your ability to weave

2112
02:15:24,060 --> 02:15:27,570
historical context into modern
events is fascinating. I'm using

2113
02:15:27,570 --> 02:15:30,750
your episodes on white fragility
and black ink as an educational

2114
02:15:30,750 --> 02:15:34,440
basis for my son and his
girlfriend. Excellent. As we

2115
02:15:34,470 --> 02:15:36,870
close out the summer, they are
poised to return to the

2116
02:15:36,870 --> 02:15:39,930
university home where the topics
of race and equality will no

2117
02:15:39,930 --> 02:15:43,410
doubt be discussed. I see these
two episodes as the beginning of

2118
02:15:43,410 --> 02:15:45,600
what I hope will be an
enlightening class and

2119
02:15:45,600 --> 02:15:49,110
discussion. I also plan to
investigate Johnson's Great

2120
02:15:49,110 --> 02:15:52,260
Society as strategic move
against the rise of communism in

2121
02:15:52,260 --> 02:15:54,900
the black community by
hypothesis that came to mind

2122
02:15:54,900 --> 02:15:59,220
while listening to the black ink
episode. That's 43 I requests so

2123
02:15:59,220 --> 02:16:03,330
first of all, excellent idea.
Get those kids doing the work.

2124
02:16:05,610 --> 02:16:11,040
It will only benefit them this
is no doubt. And we think Brian

2125
02:16:11,040 --> 02:16:14,130
and he wants a WUSA for those
struggling with their fragility

2126
02:16:14,130 --> 02:16:17,700
and the guilt of it. Brian
Martin from Parkland, Florida Of

2127
02:16:17,700 --> 02:16:28,050
course, we gotta WUSA for you
Andrew, nice Andrew wealth 12345

2128
02:16:28,080 --> 02:16:32,310
Great number Adam and most are
Andrew of the wet drains from no

2129
02:16:32,310 --> 02:16:35,970
agenda world sending my value to
mo facts. The most recent black

2130
02:16:35,970 --> 02:16:39,270
ink episode was fantastic and
finally pushed me over the ledge

2131
02:16:39,420 --> 02:16:42,900
to show support for the show.
Sorry Adam and JCD had been a

2132
02:16:42,900 --> 02:16:46,380
douchebag this project has been
great to listen to with its

2133
02:16:46,380 --> 02:16:50,250
relevance to the words current
wash cycle. I would also love to

2134
02:16:50,250 --> 02:16:54,690
hear Moe's opinion on mash
Touray Is that how you pronounce

2135
02:16:54,690 --> 02:16:58,470
it? Mash Touray with Blackburn's
mas okay I've matched to her

2136
02:16:58,470 --> 02:17:01,710
I've seen I've seen mash to re
tweeting around give me the give

2137
02:17:01,710 --> 02:17:02,490
me the lowdown Yeah.

2138
02:17:03,630 --> 02:17:08,280
Anybody that's helping us arm
ourselves and know our rights.

2139
02:17:08,280 --> 02:17:08,970
I'm all for

2140
02:17:09,869 --> 02:17:15,869
Well, there you go. GBG hashtag
EBG hashtag GB that that that

2141
02:17:15,869 --> 02:17:19,349
actually people were all over
that they were doing give

2142
02:17:19,349 --> 02:17:22,649
Blackburn's hashtags and stuff
people love that on Twitter that

2143
02:17:22,649 --> 02:17:27,119
was fun to watch. I like that.
And proud of it actually. Thank

2144
02:17:27,119 --> 02:17:31,859
you Andrew, Justin coil $110.58
to your MO and Adam. Thank you

2145
02:17:31,859 --> 02:17:34,319
so much for the education your
conversations with each other

2146
02:17:34,319 --> 02:17:36,989
have brought both my wife and I
have listened to every episode

2147
02:17:36,989 --> 02:17:39,599
discuss your topics weekly with
our neighbors, friends and co

2148
02:17:39,599 --> 02:17:42,539
workers. That's not a
discussion. You're doing the

2149
02:17:42,539 --> 02:17:48,959
work. I would like to give my
smokin hot wife Melzi a special

2150
02:17:48,989 --> 02:17:53,429
birthday shout out with a
donation in her name of 110 58

2151
02:17:53,429 --> 02:17:59,459
towards her place on the doing
the work scale which to be

2152
02:17:59,459 --> 02:18:03,239
determined but yes and you need
to keep track of your of your

2153
02:18:03,239 --> 02:18:05,609
support so that we can once
we've got that figured out and

2154
02:18:05,609 --> 02:18:08,879
everyone can mail it and let us
know. And he has a note here

2155
02:18:08,879 --> 02:18:12,389
says Happy Birthday babe You are
my grounding force. I love you.

2156
02:18:13,109 --> 02:18:16,289
That's so sweet. Oh that's nice.
And then he also has a nice

2157
02:18:16,289 --> 02:18:20,519
offer as a firearms instructor
and police officer for over a

2158
02:18:20,519 --> 02:18:24,509
decade to help us with any
training any firearm selection

2159
02:18:24,509 --> 02:18:28,799
anything we want. All we have to
do is go to Nashville I'm saying

2160
02:18:28,799 --> 02:18:31,589
sounds like a good family trip
to families go to Nashville we

2161
02:18:31,589 --> 02:18:32,759
all shoot some guns up

2162
02:18:33,599 --> 02:18:36,479
oh yeah. More value.

2163
02:18:38,430 --> 02:18:43,050
Justin thank you so much very
kind Brandon Shipley, our first

2164
02:18:43,050 --> 02:18:46,290
Associate Executive Producer
value for value says love the

2165
02:18:46,290 --> 02:18:50,520
show. Always very insightful.
Thank you, Brandon. Sir Scott,

2166
02:18:50,520 --> 02:18:56,340
King of the oops, let me expand
this a little bit. I can't I see

2167
02:18:56,340 --> 02:19:01,530
what King, sir Scott Knight of
the night surname. There we go.

2168
02:19:01,530 --> 02:19:04,920
$100, Associate Executive
Producer mon Adam. Hope you both

2169
02:19:04,920 --> 02:19:07,500
understand what a valuable
service you are providing for

2170
02:19:07,500 --> 02:19:12,330
our country and world right now.
I'm currently doing the work by

2171
02:19:12,330 --> 02:19:15,270
going back and listening to all
of the episodes. Yep, that's

2172
02:19:15,300 --> 02:19:18,840
that is work. But just listen to
the last five episodes is not

2173
02:19:18,840 --> 02:19:21,720
only given me a profound new
understanding of American Black

2174
02:19:21,720 --> 02:19:25,710
Heritage, history and culture,
but also an immunization against

2175
02:19:25,710 --> 02:19:29,460
the insane agendas being pushed
on all of us. Your discussions

2176
02:19:29,460 --> 02:19:33,450
confirmed to all of us listeners
that we're not going crazy. It's

2177
02:19:33,450 --> 02:19:36,120
just the crazy world we live in
right now. And I believe you

2178
02:19:36,120 --> 02:19:40,020
both are helping to unite us all
out. I hope so. By the way, some

2179
02:19:40,020 --> 02:19:42,810
very good shows I've watched
recently have coincided with

2180
02:19:42,810 --> 02:19:45,210
your podcast and I highly
recommend them. There's snow

2181
02:19:45,210 --> 02:19:49,260
fall and kill the messenger both
about CIA's influence on the

2182
02:19:49,260 --> 02:19:52,260
drug war in the 80s. And of
course, Malcolm X with Denzel

2183
02:19:52,260 --> 02:19:56,910
Washington, and here's my chip
into hashtag GBG give blacks

2184
02:19:56,910 --> 02:20:00,540
guns for a seat at the table. In
You are indeed on Your waste are

2185
02:20:00,540 --> 02:20:04,080
Scott ed by doing this work. He
says Keep up the good work and

2186
02:20:04,080 --> 02:20:06,810
please give me a mo karma. Thank
you sir Scott Knight of the

2187
02:20:06,810 --> 02:20:09,600
Knights surname. You got that
for sure. Thank you, sir Scott.

2188
02:20:13,860 --> 02:20:18,420
Chef Elvis Rosenberg, always
supporting us with $100. No

2189
02:20:18,420 --> 02:20:19,140
notes from the chef

2190
02:20:19,140 --> 02:20:22,860
today. No, no foul shots always
look forward to hear from the

2191
02:20:22,860 --> 02:20:24,240
note. I mean, getting a note
from the

2192
02:20:24,600 --> 02:20:27,360
chef well let us know if we if
we missed it somewhere. And

2193
02:20:27,360 --> 02:20:30,360
thank you very much. Now we have
Steve Sims. Hey, guys, love your

2194
02:20:30,360 --> 02:20:33,150
show. Thanks for helping me
broaden my thinking I'm sending

2195
02:20:33,150 --> 02:20:38,520
$90.75 which is 33% of my final
week of unemployment payments.

2196
02:20:39,120 --> 02:20:42,390
Of Thank you. The rumors are
true Florida's about the

2197
02:20:42,390 --> 02:20:45,570
stingiest state in the union.
Keep doing what you're doing,

2198
02:20:45,570 --> 02:20:48,870
deduce me if you will, but no
chain calls, no karma, or we're

2199
02:20:48,870 --> 02:20:54,300
gonna give you a WUSA, that's
our version of us. Thank you

2200
02:20:54,300 --> 02:20:59,400
very much, Steve. Daisy, of the
less Left Coast 7777 In the

2201
02:20:59,400 --> 02:21:01,950
morning, Jensen, thank you for
your courage, obviously a jump

2202
02:21:01,950 --> 02:21:04,620
from no agenda where I'm a
douchebag soon to be corrected.

2203
02:21:04,620 --> 02:21:08,820
Adam. It's alright man. That's
all good. And I very much

2204
02:21:08,820 --> 02:21:11,670
appreciate the content. I
donated to moe facts first,

2205
02:21:11,670 --> 02:21:15,660
because well, I felt it would
matter more. Also, I have fairly

2206
02:21:15,660 --> 02:21:19,800
two minor critiques. First and
foremost, I would love access to

2207
02:21:19,800 --> 02:21:22,290
the clips, which again, are
valuable and very much worth

2208
02:21:22,290 --> 02:21:26,610
sharing. So if there's any way
to make that then I'd be like,

2209
02:21:26,610 --> 02:21:31,500
No, hey, a few episodes back, we
started doing this. And I have

2210
02:21:31,500 --> 02:21:35,880
not. It's a little bit more work
to go back and put all the clips

2211
02:21:35,880 --> 02:21:36,990
in all the show notes.

2212
02:21:37,020 --> 02:21:38,430
Okay, okay. Okay.

2213
02:21:39,990 --> 02:21:45,930
But the we have the we have done
it for the last like, three

2214
02:21:45,930 --> 02:21:47,520
episodes. I think we've put the
clips in.

2215
02:21:48,030 --> 02:21:51,150
I think so. So moving forward,
we've done Oh, yeah,

2216
02:21:51,150 --> 02:21:53,610
no moving forward. That is
absolutely done. And you can

2217
02:21:53,610 --> 02:21:56,190
find all of that you can find
all the episode Show Notes by

2218
02:21:56,190 --> 02:22:02,070
going to archive.mo facts.com.
So there's a yes. Okay. Second,

2219
02:22:02,070 --> 02:22:06,300
my smartphone is apparently
somewhat retarded, who are word,

2220
02:22:06,570 --> 02:22:09,780
and I cannot listen to the show
via Google podcast as I do with

2221
02:22:09,780 --> 02:22:12,900
no agenda, and my phone is
incapable of keeping track of

2222
02:22:12,900 --> 02:22:16,740
where I am. In a show. Even when
downloaded. I would love to know

2223
02:22:16,740 --> 02:22:19,710
what app or medium you gentlemen
would recommend for listening

2224
02:22:19,710 --> 02:22:23,100
that provides even decent
functionality. Other than my

2225
02:22:23,100 --> 02:22:26,460
issues with dumbass technology,
I'll readily admit operator

2226
02:22:26,460 --> 02:22:29,970
error on both counts, I feel
more learned with every episode.

2227
02:22:30,270 --> 02:22:33,450
And I'm pleased as punch to help
produce this product, keep up

2228
02:22:33,450 --> 02:22:36,450
the good work dudes and helping
with keeping the tribes sane

2229
02:22:36,450 --> 02:22:39,390
through all the craziness as
Daisy of the Left Coast. Thank

2230
02:22:39,390 --> 02:22:45,030
you, Daisy, I personally I use
overcast. Now, that's, that is a

2231
02:22:45,030 --> 02:22:48,570
product that works on the apple.
But what's kind of cool about

2232
02:22:48,570 --> 02:22:53,130
podcast is you can just download
it directly from our web page.

2233
02:22:53,130 --> 02:22:57,210
And you can put that if you have
an Android and any player will

2234
02:22:57,210 --> 02:23:00,120
work. You don't necessarily have
to use a podcast player.

2235
02:23:01,650 --> 02:23:04,080
Although it is it is more
recommended. The problem is you

2236
02:23:04,080 --> 02:23:11,070
get these Google and Spotify is
it you know, it's unreliable,

2237
02:23:11,070 --> 02:23:13,440
whether the work whether you're
going to be in there, whether it

2238
02:23:13,440 --> 02:23:17,370
will update. So do yourself a
favor, find a podcast app for

2239
02:23:17,370 --> 02:23:19,650
your platform that almost for
every single platform.

2240
02:23:20,160 --> 02:23:23,370
And if all else fails, you can
find us on YouTube. There you

2241
02:23:23,370 --> 02:23:28,170
go. Mo facts. And please
everybody if you could go even

2242
02:23:28,170 --> 02:23:31,620
if you don't listen to it on
YouTube, go like the video there

2243
02:23:31,620 --> 02:23:35,400
because it'll help spread the
word. There's the algorithm. So

2244
02:23:35,820 --> 02:23:37,350
more work for you to do.

2245
02:23:38,850 --> 02:23:40,380
Yes, thanks.

2246
02:23:40,440 --> 02:23:45,270
Now we go to Jacob Smith. 55
Actually, Jacob Bowman Smith

2247
02:23:45,270 --> 02:23:49,050
5555 Just finished listening to
all your wonderful and highly

2248
02:23:49,050 --> 02:23:53,040
educational shows and happened
to end the episode 37 We've

2249
02:23:53,040 --> 02:23:58,350
talked about how a Blinken was a
dick. I don't know if he said

2250
02:23:58,350 --> 02:24:02,640
that exactly like that. But
okay. Years ago, I read Lincoln

2251
02:24:02,640 --> 02:24:04,920
unmasked what you're not
supposed to know about this

2252
02:24:04,920 --> 02:24:07,890
honest a by Thomas J. de
Lorenzo. When I found out

2253
02:24:07,890 --> 02:24:11,010
Lincoln was a tyrant, who
suspended habeas corpus between

2254
02:24:11,010 --> 02:24:16,080
61 and 62, allowing the
indefinite detention of citizens

2255
02:24:16,110 --> 02:24:20,040
without trial and how we also
wanted to literally abolish

2256
02:24:20,040 --> 02:24:24,120
black people to Liberia, which
was started as a settlement by

2257
02:24:24,120 --> 02:24:27,360
the American Colonization
Society correct. They believe

2258
02:24:27,360 --> 02:24:29,370
black people would face better
chances for freedom and

2259
02:24:29,370 --> 02:24:33,120
prosperity in Africa than in the
United States. Since reading

2260
02:24:33,120 --> 02:24:36,930
this book, I have heard no one
discussed this topic well Telo

2261
02:24:37,380 --> 02:24:43,350
although I have to say 45 Savage
he does he has he does say

2262
02:24:43,350 --> 02:24:46,110
things like well you know
Abraham Lincoln you know the

2263
02:24:46,110 --> 02:24:49,290
supposedly he was great
Supposedly he was great for

2264
02:24:49,290 --> 02:24:50,700
this. He's hinting at

2265
02:24:50,700 --> 02:24:52,050
that I liked it I noticed that

2266
02:24:53,580 --> 02:24:58,290
you'd like I read up on honesty
even. Anyway, for no one

2267
02:24:58,290 --> 02:25:01,350
discussed this topic, let alone
show Abe Lincoln was a tyrant

2268
02:25:01,350 --> 02:25:04,410
and a racist. Thank you for
making me feel less nutty about

2269
02:25:04,410 --> 02:25:07,680
all these crazy facts, while I
wade through the deep waters of

2270
02:25:07,710 --> 02:25:11,790
Uber woke Marxists who surround
me at all times at my work. And

2271
02:25:11,790 --> 02:25:15,660
at Trader Joe's here in
Superlift. Seattle. Also thanks

2272
02:25:15,660 --> 02:25:18,420
for the house buying karma. My
wife Rochelle and I bought a new

2273
02:25:18,420 --> 02:25:22,350
house in North Seattle that had
no competing offer. Yes, Mo

2274
02:25:22,350 --> 02:25:26,310
karma works. That's a good
story. Very happy to hear that.

2275
02:25:26,310 --> 02:25:30,480
Thank you. Thank you for sending
that in. Jacob Brian Rogers $55

2276
02:25:30,480 --> 02:25:33,480
a mo and Adam, please accept my
double nickel donation as I'm

2277
02:25:33,480 --> 02:25:36,060
trying to put together a hot
streak of consecutive shows with

2278
02:25:36,060 --> 02:25:40,020
the contribution. Excellent. You
guys are the best one two punch

2279
02:25:40,020 --> 02:25:47,280
since Karl Malone and John
Stockton. Karl Malone, the

2280
02:25:47,280 --> 02:25:47,970
mailman.

2281
02:25:48,869 --> 02:25:51,719
Then the mailman. Downtown

2282
02:25:51,750 --> 02:25:55,650
T I know something I know some
things. I'd also like to make a

2283
02:25:55,650 --> 02:26:00,780
request for a West Side gun.
Cancel cannon for both Steven

2284
02:26:00,780 --> 02:26:04,590
Jackson and Dwayne Wade for
supporting anti semitism.

2285
02:26:05,370 --> 02:26:08,190
Unfortunately there shill of a
commissioner Adam Silver won't

2286
02:26:08,190 --> 02:26:12,450
say anything about it. Keep up
the awesome work. Mo educate me.

2287
02:26:14,130 --> 02:26:19,110
Ah, so I think this is in
defense of Nick Cannon. They

2288
02:26:19,110 --> 02:26:22,950
came out and kind of threw him
under the bus. Oh, and didn't

2289
02:26:22,950 --> 02:26:26,940
back him. Even though they're
supposed to be super woke. So I

2290
02:26:26,940 --> 02:26:30,840
think that's what he's talking
about. No, actually, they

2291
02:26:30,840 --> 02:26:34,860
supported Nick Cannon. But then
they had to backtrack. I know

2292
02:26:34,860 --> 02:26:37,650
Stephen Jackson did because he
was like, I don't want no parts

2293
02:26:37,650 --> 02:26:41,040
of that. So he originally came
out supported Nick Cannon but

2294
02:26:41,040 --> 02:26:42,720
then he came here to walk it
back.

2295
02:26:42,810 --> 02:26:45,540
Well, I'm sorry. We'll have none
of that. Here's a cancel cannon

2296
02:26:49,380 --> 02:26:49,950
There you go.

2297
02:26:50,039 --> 02:26:55,289
Thank you very much, Brian.
Robert Klein 5433 Your shows are

2298
02:26:55,289 --> 02:26:58,229
fascinating. He says you and the
pod father are killing it

2299
02:26:58,529 --> 02:27:02,879
started with Jerry found no
agenda than found mo facts yes a

2300
02:27:02,879 --> 02:27:08,549
rare brought them up rownum Oh
donation. Yes. They are out

2301
02:27:08,549 --> 02:27:11,429
there in the wild. You start
with Rogen. Go to no agenda, Mo

2302
02:27:11,429 --> 02:27:14,249
facts and support them all.
Thank you for the amazing work

2303
02:27:14,249 --> 02:27:16,919
and have a wonderful weekend.
Thank you, Robert Klein, Derek

2304
02:27:16,919 --> 02:27:22,679
Skol, Skol, offski $60, we thank
you for that Karl Schneider $50

2305
02:27:22,679 --> 02:27:25,979
Raleigh Hawk $50 and has a note
the show just keeps getting

2306
02:27:25,979 --> 02:27:29,219
better keep it up, Baronet and
Black Knights are lineman of the

2307
02:27:29,219 --> 02:27:32,219
net, and our final Associate
Executive Producer for episode

2308
02:27:32,219 --> 02:27:36,599
44. Vincent rectly with $50 and
says thank you for making me

2309
02:27:36,599 --> 02:27:39,029
think outside the box. Very
nice.

2310
02:27:39,060 --> 02:27:41,820
And that's my guy. I know him
personally. That's my guy.

2311
02:27:41,850 --> 02:27:43,860
Vincent. Oh, cool. Yes.

2312
02:27:44,220 --> 02:27:49,530
All right. Another soul saved.
Brother mo another one saved.

2313
02:27:50,070 --> 02:27:54,060
John Taylor sends $40 to support
the show and says this is for

2314
02:27:54,060 --> 02:27:57,120
enlightenment and we thank you
for that John. Then Carolyn

2315
02:27:57,120 --> 02:28:00,330
Derenberger. Or Missy is a dear
embarrass maybe isn't me she

2316
02:28:00,330 --> 02:28:03,690
might be Dutch has a longer note
here. Let's take a look at your

2317
02:28:03,690 --> 02:28:06,090
mon Adam, thank you for your
podcast helped me understand

2318
02:28:06,090 --> 02:28:09,600
American. Oh yes, this is good
from outside the United States.

2319
02:28:09,600 --> 02:28:12,510
These things are important.
helped me understand American

2320
02:28:12,510 --> 02:28:15,630
black history and culture
better. If only I only started

2321
02:28:15,630 --> 02:28:18,000
listening a couple of weeks ago
after being hit in the mouth by

2322
02:28:18,000 --> 02:28:21,390
Jacobian Dame with the doomsday
deniers after he met at a

2323
02:28:21,390 --> 02:28:24,660
protest rally of the yellow
vests, the fatal crashes that's

2324
02:28:24,660 --> 02:28:28,980
in the Netherlands in December
of 2018. She advised me to start

2325
02:28:28,980 --> 02:28:33,930
listening to the no agenda show.
And I finally dove in. I'm 57

2326
02:28:33,930 --> 02:28:36,510
from the Netherlands.
Unfortunately now ill with

2327
02:28:36,510 --> 02:28:39,930
Crohn's disease and on 100%
disability but not complaining.

2328
02:28:40,260 --> 02:28:44,370
And I lived in Chicago in 8283.
With a liberal Jewish family in

2329
02:28:44,370 --> 02:28:46,830
the beautiful University of
Chicago neighborhood. That is a

2330
02:28:46,830 --> 02:28:50,370
nice area. The Jewish community
welcomed me with open arms in

2331
02:28:50,370 --> 02:28:54,090
their myths and even though I
was raised Dutch Reformed at a

2332
02:28:54,090 --> 02:28:57,660
wonderful time there and luckily
didn't encounter anti any anti

2333
02:28:57,660 --> 02:29:01,800
semitism. The south side of the
city however, was a no go zone.

2334
02:29:01,800 --> 02:29:04,710
It was very impoverished with
boarded up houses lots of crime

2335
02:29:04,710 --> 02:29:07,230
and dangerous to drive through
and also for the people living

2336
02:29:07,230 --> 02:29:10,140
there, mostly blacks and
Hispanics. Would you today

2337
02:29:10,140 --> 02:29:15,630
address them as a DOS and
Latinos? Well, I think there's

2338
02:29:16,110 --> 02:29:18,330
there's going to be a Dawson
there's going to be a lot more

2339
02:29:18,330 --> 02:29:21,720
besides just Latinos or Latinx
there's gonna be all kinds of

2340
02:29:21,720 --> 02:29:22,680
people there now.

2341
02:29:22,950 --> 02:29:23,490
Right?

2342
02:29:24,060 --> 02:29:30,300
I mean, Jamaicans you name it,
it's all in there. With the

2343
02:29:30,300 --> 02:29:32,700
election of the first black
mayor, Democrat Harold

2344
02:29:32,700 --> 02:29:35,400
Washington, there was hope for a
better future. Now. 38 years

2345
02:29:35,400 --> 02:29:38,430
later, the black on black crime
looks like a civil war. And it's

2346
02:29:38,430 --> 02:29:41,160
heartbreaking for me to read
about my heart goes out to all

2347
02:29:41,160 --> 02:29:43,860
the women who lose their men,
children and family to this

2348
02:29:43,860 --> 02:29:47,400
absurd violence. Oh, can you
please explain why it's still so

2349
02:29:47,400 --> 02:29:50,850
bad in these big cities? Did the
city officials Democrats take

2350
02:29:50,850 --> 02:29:54,090
all the aid money to enrich
themselves and give jobs for

2351
02:29:54,090 --> 02:29:56,880
their own family members instead
of improving the neighborhood?

2352
02:29:58,080 --> 02:30:00,840
What episode did we have Bob
Woodson on No, I mean this this

2353
02:30:00,840 --> 02:30:01,170
kind of

2354
02:30:01,170 --> 02:30:06,840
was three or four episodes ago.
Yeah, I'm gonna say maybe 30 out

2355
02:30:06,840 --> 02:30:11,640
of 40. And well, they did give
them money to me nepotism to

2356
02:30:11,640 --> 02:30:14,490
their family to help them, but
they don't want to fix the

2357
02:30:14,490 --> 02:30:18,660
system. If you fix the system,
you put yourself out of a job.

2358
02:30:19,050 --> 02:30:21,360
So I'm asked that that's the
whole point. And I want to say,

2359
02:30:21,960 --> 02:30:24,840
someone wrote me a letter about
Chicago and they were telling

2360
02:30:24,840 --> 02:30:27,240
me, I'm gonna I'm gonna take
their word for it. There was

2361
02:30:27,240 --> 02:30:30,450
like, the all the shooting
happens online, mainly two city

2362
02:30:30,450 --> 02:30:35,400
blocks. And that's it. So it's
kind of like Hamsterdam on the

2363
02:30:35,400 --> 02:30:39,030
wire, like they Chicago kind of
lets them you could kill on the

2364
02:30:39,030 --> 02:30:43,410
streets as long as you don't.
The rest of the city. So yeah,

2365
02:30:43,410 --> 02:30:48,060
they allow that given to quote,
The Baltimore where Baltimore

2366
02:30:48,060 --> 02:30:51,570
mayor, they given respects to
riot pretty much so they're

2367
02:30:51,570 --> 02:30:55,110
given free rein just to insert
whoever they want to on those

2368
02:30:55,110 --> 02:30:59,070
poor city blocks in New Orleans.
They keep it out of, you know,

2369
02:30:59,070 --> 02:31:00,630
the good, taxpaying
neighborhood.

2370
02:31:02,010 --> 02:31:04,710
That's, that's a good
explanation. It's episode 40,

2371
02:31:04,710 --> 02:31:08,220
where we brought in Bob Woodson
now. Yeah, okay. Okay. Carolyn

2372
02:31:08,220 --> 02:31:10,920
has been, has been listening to
the show from the beginning.

2373
02:31:10,920 --> 02:31:15,210
She's at number four now. So you
got a couple more to go. And she

2374
02:31:15,210 --> 02:31:18,000
says she recognize a story from
no man about the house. This is

2375
02:31:18,000 --> 02:31:20,940
interesting. Me and my brother,
were raised by single mom with

2376
02:31:20,940 --> 02:31:23,880
psychiatric disorders and we
lived on welfare. We my mother

2377
02:31:23,880 --> 02:31:26,700
had a new friend he could not
live with us, or the benefits

2378
02:31:26,700 --> 02:31:30,180
would stop social services did
check our house more than once.

2379
02:31:30,480 --> 02:31:34,170
Bizarre to hear the same
policies existed decades before

2380
02:31:34,170 --> 02:31:38,910
on the entire other side of the
world. Maybe not by mistake. And

2381
02:31:38,910 --> 02:31:44,370
we're starting to start thinking
well, we always know who's gonna

2382
02:31:44,370 --> 02:31:49,950
go first. Pay attention to your
black friends. Like okay,

2383
02:31:50,400 --> 02:31:55,770
Carolyn, thank you so much. Can
to potty Lea. $24.07 a moment,

2384
02:31:55,770 --> 02:31:59,850
Adam, this is my rownum Oh,
contribution. I become a regular

2385
02:31:59,850 --> 02:32:02,130
listener of the show. And I've
been trying to catch up with all

2386
02:32:02,130 --> 02:32:04,860
the episodes and join the
learning, enjoying and learning

2387
02:32:04,860 --> 02:32:07,380
a lot from the show. And the
last episode blank cake was the

2388
02:32:07,380 --> 02:32:10,440
best I've heard so far. Keep up
the great work. Well, thank you

2389
02:32:10,440 --> 02:32:15,390
very much. Clinton. $23 and says
it right there. I'm doing the

2390
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work. Katherine, Paula androni
$20 Thank you for that no note,

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Uri Weber 1974. Thanks for
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education. I work at a member
run cooperative grocery store

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and the struggle for racial
equality came in the form of

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union organization organizing.
There's not too many people who

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I can share this with their but
I'm picking a few curious co

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workers to help enlighten thanks
again, Yuri and Brooklyn URI

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that is doing the work. Thank
you. Outstanding. Sasha right.

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$16 says hello Mo and Adam I was
thinking about what to call the

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MO fax producers tribe. And I
want to share an idea What if we

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02:32:52,350 --> 02:32:55,770
call it the table of truth
instead of the Knights and Dames

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02:32:55,770 --> 02:33:00,120
we call ourselves guardians. Oh,
that's also interesting. Just an

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idea, but it seems fitting for a
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02:33:03,270 --> 02:33:06,480
to a beautiful five month old
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Oregon. So we've been very
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the craziness going on Portland.
No kidding. Y'all have given me

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a connection to the outside
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bless you both. I'd love to get
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I should and thank you and what
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and this this kind of stuff when
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It matters. Really does they
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and we got some more karma for
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Andrew better $15 value for
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since we only have a few left,
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numbers I don't think for under
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read through them as we got $10
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mo karma please. John also
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Screamer of the no agenda show
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2425
02:34:31,500 --> 02:34:36,840
about value. Fletch value was
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02:34:36,840 --> 02:34:40,050
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you all for doing the work.
Please support us by going to mo

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02:35:02,460 --> 02:35:06,780
producers for producing and
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02:35:09,090 --> 02:35:13,710
As I said before, Brock Obama
received the most friendly

2434
02:35:13,710 --> 02:35:20,370
coverage and even downright
ignoring case stories that could

2435
02:35:20,370 --> 02:35:25,110
have been damaged to him. And I
have a couple of examples of

2436
02:35:25,110 --> 02:35:30,090
this in the next couple of sets
of clips. Okay, um, I guess the

2437
02:35:30,090 --> 02:35:32,640
first one, let's just go ahead
and hop in Malia gets an

2438
02:35:32,640 --> 02:35:33,330
internship.

2439
02:35:34,260 --> 02:35:37,530
Sadly, the Obamas have
officially moved out of the

2440
02:35:37,530 --> 02:35:41,160
White House after eight years of
incredible leadership. The most

2441
02:35:41,160 --> 02:35:44,700
impactful first family we've
seen in years is preparing to

2442
02:35:44,700 --> 02:35:48,270
transition into life outside of
the office, and that includes

2443
02:35:48,270 --> 02:35:51,480
the girls to overnight news
broke that Barack and Michelle's

2444
02:35:51,510 --> 02:35:55,950
oldest daughter Malia has just
declared a major internship with

2445
02:35:55,950 --> 02:35:59,760
famed Hollywood producer Harvey
Weinstein after the family

2446
02:35:59,760 --> 02:36:03,090
finishes vacationing in Palm
Springs. And before Malia heads

2447
02:36:03,090 --> 02:36:05,760
off to her freshman year at
Harvard, she will spend some

2448
02:36:05,760 --> 02:36:09,030
time right here in New York
City, learning all about what

2449
02:36:09,030 --> 02:36:12,600
independent film has to offer.
Harvey Weinstein and his brother

2450
02:36:12,600 --> 02:36:15,990
Bob, who raise money for the
Obama campaign have one of the

2451
02:36:15,990 --> 02:36:19,080
most successful independent film
companies in the world. Their

2452
02:36:19,080 --> 02:36:22,590
credits include Shakespeare in
Love The King's Speech, and most

2453
02:36:22,590 --> 02:36:26,340
recently, Jay Z's new series
time the Kalief Browder story,

2454
02:36:26,370 --> 02:36:30,090
so it's safe to say that Malia
will be in good hands. We are

2455
02:36:30,090 --> 02:36:33,270
saddened by their inevitable egg
exit from the White House, it

2456
02:36:33,270 --> 02:36:36,630
will be awesome to cheer on the
Obamas when they have half the

2457
02:36:36,630 --> 02:36:39,720
stress and double the freedom to
accomplish anything they can

2458
02:36:39,720 --> 02:36:39,930
dream.

2459
02:36:40,650 --> 02:36:43,260
I don't think we need to even
say anything about that. I think

2460
02:36:44,460 --> 02:36:46,230
story speaks for itself.

2461
02:36:47,940 --> 02:36:50,490
Have you heard of this before? I
mean, my

2462
02:36:50,550 --> 02:36:56,760
I recall one story quite a while
back that that I didn't that she

2463
02:36:56,760 --> 02:37:01,980
was going to work there or
something but it when me too

2464
02:37:01,980 --> 02:37:05,370
happened? No, that was not
brought up.

2465
02:37:06,450 --> 02:37:11,970
Isn't there 16 individual in the
independent intelligence

2466
02:37:12,000 --> 02:37:16,650
agencies. behest of the
President, the President and I'm

2467
02:37:16,650 --> 02:37:18,360
sending my daughter to work
somewhere.

2468
02:37:19,050 --> 02:37:21,840
Trust me, you might check it out
first.

2469
02:37:22,920 --> 02:37:28,080
What is this guy Harvey all
about? Hey, in as is known as it

2470
02:37:28,080 --> 02:37:33,030
was Oprah secret in Hollywood
that he was hansy hit at? I

2471
02:37:33,030 --> 02:37:35,220
mean, at best or at worst,
however you want to put it

2472
02:37:35,220 --> 02:37:37,260
there? Yeah, this is not

2473
02:37:39,540 --> 02:37:42,180
this is not the guy. No, wow.

2474
02:37:42,330 --> 02:37:44,040
She's gonna be in good hands.

2475
02:37:44,370 --> 02:37:48,390
Well, you know that. You know, I
always stick to the to the rumor

2476
02:37:48,390 --> 02:37:53,610
that both the Obama kids are not
Brock's kids. One is Stevie

2477
02:37:53,610 --> 02:37:56,190
Wonder's kid and the other one
is Scottie. Pippins. Kid. That's

2478
02:37:56,190 --> 02:37:58,020
what I've always said that.

2479
02:37:58,560 --> 02:38:03,600
Wherever you see the pictures of
the two. If you see the pictures

2480
02:38:03,600 --> 02:38:07,410
of the two people that he
apparently posed to be their

2481
02:38:07,410 --> 02:38:12,210
biological parents. Yeah, no,
it's very damning. It's very

2482
02:38:12,240 --> 02:38:16,080
it's very damning. But I'm not
gonna dabble in those kinds of

2483
02:38:16,080 --> 02:38:18,990
conspiracies, cuz I'm gonna say
my keep my powder dry for other

2484
02:38:18,990 --> 02:38:25,350
things. Um, but your daughter
going to work for Harvey

2485
02:38:25,350 --> 02:38:28,650
Weinstein. And this has to be
2016. Yeah, there was already

2486
02:38:28,650 --> 02:38:32,520
rumblings. She's about Harvey
and 16. Right?

2487
02:38:33,900 --> 02:38:36,690
Yeah. Oh, man. Can you believe
that?

2488
02:38:37,529 --> 02:38:41,249
But they let you know they're
disgusted by the behavior

2489
02:38:41,279 --> 02:38:43,049
behavior of Harvey Weinstein.

2490
02:38:43,110 --> 02:38:45,390
President Obama and First Lady
Michelle Obama say they are

2491
02:38:45,390 --> 02:38:48,270
quote disgusted by the behavior
of Harvey Weinstein who was

2492
02:38:48,270 --> 02:38:51,690
accused of sexual assault and
raping several women. A portion

2493
02:38:51,690 --> 02:38:53,880
of their joint statement says
Michelle and I have been

2494
02:38:53,880 --> 02:38:57,060
disgusted by the recent reports
about Harvey Weinstein. Any man

2495
02:38:57,060 --> 02:38:59,610
who demeans and degrades women
in such fashion needs to be

2496
02:38:59,610 --> 02:39:03,930
condemned and held accountable
regardless of wealth or status.

2497
02:39:04,080 --> 02:39:06,300
They also say that we should
celebrate the courage of women

2498
02:39:06,300 --> 02:39:09,420
who have come forward to tell
these painful stories. And we

2499
02:39:09,420 --> 02:39:12,420
all need to build a culture
including by empowering our

2500
02:39:12,420 --> 02:39:15,390
girls and teaching our boys
decency and respect so we can

2501
02:39:15,390 --> 02:39:18,870
make such behavior less
prevalent in the future. Their

2502
02:39:18,870 --> 02:39:21,210
statement comes after critics
accused the first couple of

2503
02:39:21,210 --> 02:39:23,730
staying quiet about the
Weinstein allegations was

2504
02:39:23,730 --> 02:39:27,120
dropped last week in a report in
The New York Times. And then of

2505
02:39:27,120 --> 02:39:29,610
course, yesterday, The New
Yorker dropped an even more

2506
02:39:29,610 --> 02:39:32,670
explosive piece as well.
Weinstein has been a major

2507
02:39:32,670 --> 02:39:36,900
democratic donor. In 2012. He
contributed $71,000 to Obama's

2508
02:39:36,900 --> 02:39:40,170
campaign, their oldest daughter
Malia recently intern at the

2509
02:39:40,170 --> 02:39:43,260
ones that Weinstein Company.
Weinstein was also a prominent

2510
02:39:43,260 --> 02:39:46,050
supporter of Hillary Clinton's
presidential campaign. She also

2511
02:39:46,050 --> 02:39:47,850
finally released a statement
saying she was shocked and

2512
02:39:47,850 --> 02:39:50,850
appalled by the revelations said
the behavior cannot be

2513
02:39:50,850 --> 02:39:51,540
tolerated.

2514
02:39:52,020 --> 02:39:56,910
Here is how a normal father
would respond somewhere between

2515
02:39:56,940 --> 02:40:02,700
this report 2016 And today 20
May 20, at some point, maybe by

2516
02:40:02,700 --> 02:40:07,890
myself, maybe with my wife, I'd
say, I was so shocked when I

2517
02:40:07,890 --> 02:40:12,060
learned this. And I could not
believe that my daughter had

2518
02:40:12,060 --> 02:40:17,850
been impossible danger. You
would have to say something

2519
02:40:17,850 --> 02:40:21,120
about this. But no, yeah. And
they

2520
02:40:21,510 --> 02:40:25,290
acted like they didn't know what
then Michelle says we need to

2521
02:40:25,290 --> 02:40:29,610
believe all women and their
stories. Why didn't they listen

2522
02:40:29,610 --> 02:40:31,590
to the former White House
photographer?

2523
02:40:32,040 --> 02:40:34,500
He threw a lot of people come
and go at the White House as

2524
02:40:34,500 --> 02:40:38,100
well. What did you think for
instance, when Harvey Weinstein

2525
02:40:38,100 --> 02:40:38,550
visited?

2526
02:40:40,590 --> 02:40:44,100
There was a very, very tough
moment my entire body was

2527
02:40:44,100 --> 02:40:47,760
screaming. I'm not sure if
Australian viewers are aware.

2528
02:40:47,760 --> 02:40:51,420
But shortly after the New York
Times article last year, I came

2529
02:40:51,420 --> 02:40:54,870
forward and told my story of
Harvey Weinstein and my

2530
02:40:54,870 --> 02:40:58,200
knowledge of Him in the film
business. And when he came to

2531
02:40:58,200 --> 02:41:03,090
the White House with Michelle
Obama for a Broadway Tribute

2532
02:41:04,560 --> 02:41:08,520
Event, I was my body was
screaming inside and I wanted to

2533
02:41:08,520 --> 02:41:14,070
shake Michelle and go no, no,
no, don't do this. I've got to

2534
02:41:14,070 --> 02:41:14,580
know.

2535
02:41:15,780 --> 02:41:18,390
Me, I said no. Did you ever you
certainly talk about how your

2536
02:41:18,390 --> 02:41:21,480
skin crawled when you saw Harvey
Weinstein walking with Michelle

2537
02:41:21,480 --> 02:41:24,810
Obama? Did you ever were you
ever able to warn them about the

2538
02:41:24,840 --> 02:41:26,100
the sort of company they were
keeping?

2539
02:41:27,060 --> 02:41:30,600
Actually, they came up recently
with one of her aides. I said to

2540
02:41:30,630 --> 02:41:33,240
I said to them just recently up
to the Michelle Obama, they

2541
02:41:33,240 --> 02:41:36,000
contacted me, I said, you know,
I tried to warn Michelle and

2542
02:41:36,000 --> 02:41:39,810
they said, well, when? When and
how did you do that? Then I

2543
02:41:39,810 --> 02:41:44,700
said, I spoke to her first lady
press office, both in the east

2544
02:41:44,700 --> 02:41:48,090
wing. And I spoke to President
Barack Obama's office on the

2545
02:41:48,090 --> 02:41:53,940
west when and I don't know why
those messages didn't get to

2546
02:41:53,940 --> 02:41:58,920
them directly. But I was very
surprised and disheartened that

2547
02:41:58,920 --> 02:42:01,680
Harvey Weinstein was there. I
thought it was hypocritical of

2548
02:42:01,680 --> 02:42:04,740
the first lady at the time. I
guess she didn't know what

2549
02:42:04,770 --> 02:42:09,390
everyone else knew. And I was
very concerned when, of course,

2550
02:42:10,050 --> 02:42:15,420
as it started, Malia started
interning at, at Miramax so that

2551
02:42:15,420 --> 02:42:16,500
the Weinstein Company

2552
02:42:19,200 --> 02:42:23,700
I had never heard this, this
woman, this is great. And I've

2553
02:42:23,700 --> 02:42:27,090
done a lot of work on
researching these people. That's

2554
02:42:27,090 --> 02:42:31,590
fantastic. Well, of course, this
all leads into some of my

2555
02:42:31,590 --> 02:42:32,790
favorite topics.

2556
02:42:33,630 --> 02:42:39,630
And then the two things that
distract me is just you can't

2557
02:42:39,630 --> 02:42:46,410
ignore these two facts. One,
Barack Obama being the leader of

2558
02:42:46,410 --> 02:42:50,280
the free world, you have all
this access to all these

2559
02:42:50,280 --> 02:42:55,050
intelligence agencies. You can't
have my look into Harvey. And

2560
02:42:55,050 --> 02:43:01,350
then your wife is BFFs with
Oprah, who has the intelligence,

2561
02:43:02,490 --> 02:43:07,050
entertainments intelligence
agencies, I mean, TMZ and I'm

2562
02:43:07,050 --> 02:43:11,460
sure she has, she has most
everywhere. Oh, you can just

2563
02:43:11,460 --> 02:43:16,800
pick up the phone and say, hey,
oh, what's up? Yeah. Yeah,

2564
02:43:17,250 --> 02:43:19,470
Harvey. What's up with him? How
is he?

2565
02:43:19,680 --> 02:43:22,920
Yeah, I'm checking on behalf of
my daughter who I love so much.

2566
02:43:22,920 --> 02:43:26,040
And I'm gonna send her off to
intern. What do you think? Oh?

2567
02:43:27,690 --> 02:43:32,880
And why didn't Oh, say hey,
Michelle. I don't really want to

2568
02:43:32,880 --> 02:43:36,780
stay in that thing. But you
might want to let her intern

2569
02:43:36,780 --> 02:43:38,490
have it for foundation.

2570
02:43:39,570 --> 02:43:41,610
USA ID anything but

2571
02:43:44,220 --> 02:43:48,210
that conversation never had.
This is? Yeah, that's, that's

2572
02:43:48,210 --> 02:43:51,000
awesome. I'll talk about in the
media. And then you have these

2573
02:43:51,000 --> 02:43:56,460
women coming forward today want
her and yeah, it was well known

2574
02:43:56,460 --> 02:44:01,110
news, but nobody reports on
that. Now this next topic, I

2575
02:44:01,110 --> 02:44:06,630
wrestled with it. I was in and
it was out. It was in it. It was

2576
02:44:06,630 --> 02:44:08,100
out. Well. I was like,

2577
02:44:08,850 --> 02:44:13,260
before you lead into the topic.
I'm glad you left it in. Because

2578
02:44:13,260 --> 02:44:17,610
I worked with this person on her
own show in New York when she

2579
02:44:17,610 --> 02:44:22,980
was on Channel Five. But it was
syndicated nationally. I really

2580
02:44:22,980 --> 02:44:25,380
had an affection for her. I
think we got along

2581
02:44:25,410 --> 02:44:34,560
professionally extremely well.
And she had two modes. Really

2582
02:44:34,560 --> 02:44:38,460
three with me. She turned on an
extra kind of like charm, which

2583
02:44:38,460 --> 02:44:41,220
I which was very endearing. And
I played right into that. Of

2584
02:44:41,220 --> 02:44:46,200
course she's older than I was.
But if she was saying something

2585
02:44:46,200 --> 02:44:51,300
truthful to you, like in between
a commercial break? She had she

2586
02:44:51,300 --> 02:44:54,540
meant it. She was very, very
straight laced. I'm talking

2587
02:44:54,540 --> 02:44:56,280
about Joan Rivers. Take it from
there.

2588
02:44:57,540 --> 02:44:58,800
Now you take it from here.

2589
02:44:59,670 --> 02:45:04,980
Okay. And so So Joe No no, it's
good

2590
02:45:05,340 --> 02:45:09,000
hardware like okay, this is what
I was talking about about that

2591
02:45:09,000 --> 02:45:11,250
hater. I mean that hater cloud

2592
02:45:12,450 --> 02:45:15,000
because I've done this many
times so people can hate me for

2593
02:45:15,000 --> 02:45:19,890
this if they want it's not a
problem, right. So Joan Rivers

2594
02:45:19,890 --> 02:45:26,040
was was asked, and she was very
in tune with if there is such a

2595
02:45:26,040 --> 02:45:30,150
thing, the gay community, she's
been around she's showbusiness,

2596
02:45:30,180 --> 02:45:36,000
the theater, television, movies,
it's very, very, very long

2597
02:45:36,000 --> 02:45:40,230
history, very connected woman.
And also very intuitive because

2598
02:45:40,230 --> 02:45:42,120
she went through a lot of
tragedy, and she could feel

2599
02:45:42,120 --> 02:45:44,190
people understand where they
were coming from, she turned

2600
02:45:44,190 --> 02:45:46,380
everything into a joke. And
that's how she dealt with her

2601
02:45:46,380 --> 02:45:54,090
life, I think. But there was a
rumor, and I can't honestly

2602
02:45:54,090 --> 02:45:54,840
remember where

2603
02:45:56,610 --> 02:46:01,290
you just had to play. It just
says this. I'm not shying away

2604
02:46:01,290 --> 02:46:04,620
from it. I'm this. Well, that
would there was definitely I

2605
02:46:04,620 --> 02:46:07,440
believe she said it and then I
can't believe it was not

2606
02:46:07,440 --> 02:46:09,030
covered. That's what I'm saying.

2607
02:46:09,060 --> 02:46:12,510
So well. I think it was it was
was it for Entertainment Tonight

2608
02:46:12,510 --> 02:46:13,500
or or who

2609
02:46:14,190 --> 02:46:17,640
was at or a team's? I think
teams TMZ might not aired it, I

2610
02:46:17,640 --> 02:46:18,390
think. Yeah.

2611
02:46:18,600 --> 02:46:22,140
And I think Howard Stern played
it a lot, which, which is

2612
02:46:22,140 --> 02:46:25,200
probably where I heard it first.
But these rumors have been

2613
02:46:25,200 --> 02:46:28,770
around for quite a while. And
when Joan Rivers said this, to

2614
02:46:28,770 --> 02:46:32,760
me, it meant something more than
to the average person because I

2615
02:46:32,760 --> 02:46:36,030
knew that this was Joan in not
joking mode.

2616
02:46:36,870 --> 02:46:37,350
And this wherever

2617
02:46:38,670 --> 02:46:41,220
you made you made a ton of news
officiating the wedding in New

2618
02:46:41,220 --> 02:46:41,940
York yesterday. Is

2619
02:46:41,940 --> 02:46:44,400
this like, is this like a new
cottage career?

2620
02:46:46,740 --> 02:46:48,810
I should do very well, because I
don't show and

2621
02:46:48,810 --> 02:46:50,850
do you think that the country
will see the first the United

2622
02:46:50,850 --> 02:46:52,800
States to see the first gay
president or the first woman

2623
02:46:52,800 --> 02:46:53,190
president

2624
02:46:53,760 --> 02:47:02,700
Obama. So let's just show is a
trend. I'm sorry. She's a white,

2625
02:47:03,870 --> 02:47:05,910
transgender, we own them.

2626
02:47:05,940 --> 02:47:06,720
Oh my gosh.

2627
02:47:10,770 --> 02:47:14,430
Now she had just officiated, I
think the the, the state or the

2628
02:47:14,430 --> 02:47:16,590
city's first same sex marriage?

2629
02:47:17,160 --> 02:47:20,040
Yeah, I got I got a clip on that
too, just to support that she's

2630
02:47:20,040 --> 02:47:27,390
not some homophobe or saying it
because that's where they should

2631
02:47:27,390 --> 02:47:29,850
be paying it. When you say
something against and you're

2632
02:47:29,850 --> 02:47:36,990
saying the great Barry. But what
struck me is the silence around

2633
02:47:36,990 --> 02:47:41,370
new story. It was not. We've saw
the email where people were

2634
02:47:41,370 --> 02:47:45,090
being rude towards Michelle
Obama. And it was like, some

2635
02:47:45,090 --> 02:47:50,100
marriage some hick town sends an
email criticizing Michelle Obama

2636
02:47:50,100 --> 02:47:55,440
and it made like national news.
How dare you, Joe, right. You

2637
02:47:55,440 --> 02:48:01,800
have Joan Rivers come out. And
she says it so nonchalantly that

2638
02:48:02,100 --> 02:48:08,460
and one thing we have to take
into account was that cover of

2639
02:48:08,910 --> 02:48:14,490
Newsweek, they have first gay
president, Barack Obama with the

2640
02:48:15,660 --> 02:48:22,470
rainbow Halo. When I heard this,
I'm like, that's not what they

2641
02:48:22,470 --> 02:48:25,830
meant. Wishes. Like you said,
the rumor and rumors and the

2642
02:48:25,830 --> 02:48:28,530
conspiracies and those kinds of
things went around. And it's not

2643
02:48:28,530 --> 02:48:32,040
something not something that I
can't substantiate, even though

2644
02:48:32,040 --> 02:48:34,980
there's so some smoking guns
around the activities of men

2645
02:48:34,980 --> 02:48:38,820
dying in Chicago, mysteriously.
Hitler's in

2646
02:48:38,820 --> 02:48:41,820
the Larry Sinclair business and
all about

2647
02:48:41,820 --> 02:48:45,120
that, too. I didn't, I didn't
want to dabble in that I wanted

2648
02:48:45,120 --> 02:48:49,350
to come at the angle of this is
how the media protects one of

2649
02:48:49,350 --> 02:48:53,610
their assets. And if you want to
use the Operation Mockingbird as

2650
02:48:53,610 --> 02:48:57,960
a, as a friend at work, the
framework, they're protecting

2651
02:48:57,960 --> 02:49:01,080
one of their real assets, not
like quote unquote, assets,

2652
02:49:01,080 --> 02:49:05,070
right? But then, Joe, I mean,
Joe, she just said, Oh, yeah.

2653
02:49:05,160 --> 02:49:08,640
And then she says, Okay, we have
him Brock. And I'm like, okay,

2654
02:49:08,850 --> 02:49:13,650
and then she doubles down like,
oh, oh, Michelle. She's a

2655
02:49:13,650 --> 02:49:16,500
trained me, but that's okay.
Don't worry about it. I mean,

2656
02:49:16,500 --> 02:49:20,370
it's all right. But she didn't
say it like me harshly. And then

2657
02:49:20,940 --> 02:49:25,290
the interaction opens up with
the reporter referencing the

2658
02:49:25,290 --> 02:49:28,350
same set of six marriage that
she had just done previously,

2659
02:49:28,470 --> 02:49:29,610
which I have a clip on

2660
02:49:30,210 --> 02:49:34,410
7pm Jones at Barnes and Noble,
she gets a standing Oh, and a

2661
02:49:34,410 --> 02:49:37,680
surprise request. The comedian
who's an ordained minister was

2662
02:49:37,680 --> 02:49:39,690
asked if she would marry these
two things.

2663
02:49:41,040 --> 02:49:45,420
And it's wonderful. You're my
second husband

2664
02:49:48,180 --> 02:49:51,780
Joan Rivers, a force of nature
who was one of a kind Thanks for

2665
02:49:51,780 --> 02:49:52,740
the memories Jones.

2666
02:49:53,580 --> 02:49:57,810
Yeah, yeah, it didn't end very
well. With the with this

2667
02:49:57,810 --> 02:49:58,470
comment.

2668
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:04,620
It seems like Joan knew it may
have been coming from her last

2669
02:50:04,620 --> 02:50:05,730
show that she did.

2670
02:50:06,000 --> 02:50:09,570
Our top story though is the
passing of Joan Rivers can her

2671
02:50:09,570 --> 02:50:14,280
voice really be gone? Funeral
Services for her will be this

2672
02:50:14,280 --> 02:50:18,150
Sunday in New York. Remember it
says, are pouring in from all

2673
02:50:18,150 --> 02:50:22,920
over the world. For this comedy
legend her family says the 81

2674
02:50:22,920 --> 02:50:26,130
year old died peacefully
Thursday in a New York Hospital

2675
02:50:26,580 --> 02:50:30,360
summing up a legendary career in
comedy rivers daughter and co

2676
02:50:30,360 --> 02:50:34,410
star Melissa Rivers that this
statement my mother's greatest

2677
02:50:34,410 --> 02:50:37,170
joy in life was to make people
laugh, although that is

2678
02:50:37,170 --> 02:50:40,920
difficult to do right now. I
know her final wish would be

2679
02:50:40,920 --> 02:50:44,550
that we returned to laughing
soon. Well, as you know,

2680
02:50:44,550 --> 02:50:47,790
virtually no subject was off
limits for rivers, including her

2681
02:50:47,790 --> 02:50:51,630
own mortality. Take a listen to
this clip now from her final

2682
02:50:51,630 --> 02:50:55,740
stand up comedy performance
reporting just one day before

2683
02:50:55,770 --> 02:50:57,510
she ended up in the hospital.

2684
02:50:59,130 --> 02:51:09,210
If I could die Do you understand
how lucky you would be? Do you

2685
02:51:09,210 --> 02:51:11,880
honestly, you'd have something
to talk about to the rest of

2686
02:51:11,880 --> 02:51:15,510
your life. We invited you there.

2687
02:51:18,000 --> 02:51:19,620
What did she say at the end? I
couldn't hear it.

2688
02:51:20,610 --> 02:51:22,890
She says she's talking about her
dying. She's like you were

2689
02:51:22,890 --> 02:51:27,510
there. You know, I mean? It
would be big news and you would

2690
02:51:27,540 --> 02:51:33,900
know. But this is one day before
she goes in for surgery. Yeah,

2691
02:51:33,930 --> 02:51:37,770
very simple surgery. Very simple
surgery

2692
02:51:37,800 --> 02:51:39,660
and routine.

2693
02:51:41,010 --> 02:51:45,750
routine and then they're just
they honestly says that she

2694
02:51:45,750 --> 02:51:46,860
didn't have to die.

2695
02:51:47,070 --> 02:51:50,100
There are startling new details
emerging from the federal

2696
02:51:50,100 --> 02:51:53,610
investigation into the death of
Joan Rivers. The findings have

2697
02:51:53,640 --> 02:51:55,860
angered her daughter Melissa.
Yeah, Chris

2698
02:51:55,860 --> 02:51:58,290
Wragge. He has the latest from
outside the clinic where a new

2699
02:51:58,290 --> 02:52:01,710
report says terrible mistakes
were made. It's this simple.

2700
02:52:01,920 --> 02:52:03,660
Joan Rivers did not have to die.

2701
02:52:04,650 --> 02:52:08,640
There's always a risk. Whenever
you go under, you've got to say

2702
02:52:08,640 --> 02:52:13,530
maybe this won't work. Or maybe
I won't even come out of it is a

2703
02:52:13,530 --> 02:52:15,300
major life choice.

2704
02:52:15,870 --> 02:52:18,990
This just released 22 page
report include some disturbing

2705
02:52:18,990 --> 02:52:21,870
claims about what was supposed
to be just a routine throw

2706
02:52:21,870 --> 02:52:24,810
procedure for the comic legend
back in August. Among the

2707
02:52:24,810 --> 02:52:28,200
mistakes investigators report
the clinic failed to get Jones

2708
02:52:28,200 --> 02:52:31,830
informed consent for each
procedure performed and failed

2709
02:52:31,830 --> 02:52:35,430
to identify deteriorating vital
signs. And this is the part that

2710
02:52:35,430 --> 02:52:38,460
is just astounding. The report
says that while Joan was

2711
02:52:38,460 --> 02:52:42,720
sedated, a staff member quote,
took pictures of the surgeon and

2712
02:52:42,720 --> 02:52:44,520
a patient with his cell phone.

2713
02:52:46,710 --> 02:52:52,110
Oh, man. Oh, I remember all
this. It was very

2714
02:52:52,619 --> 02:52:53,519
proof of it hit

2715
02:52:55,980 --> 02:53:02,700
Send me my bitcoin. Yeah, that's
bad man. I was shocking to me

2716
02:53:02,700 --> 02:53:05,790
when she died. It's like what?
And then because I didn't hear

2717
02:53:05,790 --> 02:53:09,300
about the Michelle thing until
after

2718
02:53:10,109 --> 02:53:15,059
me either me and Monica say Oh,
this is what like she died

2719
02:53:15,059 --> 02:53:18,209
mysteriously. And all of a
sudden, you know, what shocked

2720
02:53:18,239 --> 02:53:21,389
me was that the news didn't
freak out on her and counsel

2721
02:53:21,389 --> 02:53:25,229
her. She should have definitely
been canceled. To say the first

2722
02:53:25,229 --> 02:53:29,879
black. First Lady is a
transgender. I mean, you had the

2723
02:53:29,879 --> 02:53:32,729
gay kid, the LGBT community
should have been outraged. The

2724
02:53:32,729 --> 02:53:36,359
black community should have been
outraged. The feminists should

2725
02:53:36,359 --> 02:53:37,979
have been outraged. You know,
the

2726
02:53:37,980 --> 02:53:40,830
machine the machine didn't the
machine suppressed it the

2727
02:53:40,830 --> 02:53:42,330
machine didn't let that happen.

2728
02:53:43,410 --> 02:53:47,370
Waste when they don't talk about
something that can generate a

2729
02:53:47,370 --> 02:53:51,330
lot of revenue as mean it's
bigger. It's much big money much

2730
02:53:51,330 --> 02:53:51,780
bigger.

2731
02:53:52,110 --> 02:53:55,680
We're just looking so yeah, it
was Entertainment Tonight. I

2732
02:53:55,680 --> 02:53:59,010
think they might have had, they
might have shown no, I'm just

2733
02:53:59,010 --> 02:54:02,310
looking at the news. If I can
see any historical new stuff.

2734
02:54:03,180 --> 02:54:07,410
It's really it only aired there
I think and that was it. Done on

2735
02:54:07,410 --> 02:54:07,920
TMZ

2736
02:54:07,920 --> 02:54:10,350
covered it and they kind of poo
pooed it away like oh, that's

2737
02:54:10,350 --> 02:54:14,310
just John Van Jones. Yeah,
that's why I heard it on team

2738
02:54:14,340 --> 02:54:17,280
the TMZ clip, not what you can't
find anymore. That's the other

2739
02:54:17,280 --> 02:54:21,210
thing like these clips are
disappearing. To find this clip

2740
02:54:21,720 --> 02:54:27,030
was hard. I had to go inside of
a bigger like, video that had it

2741
02:54:27,060 --> 02:54:30,930
in the clip embedded. And I had
to snip it there but no, the

2742
02:54:30,930 --> 02:54:34,230
clips are gone. They're gone.
They've been scrubbed. Really.

2743
02:54:35,610 --> 02:54:41,490
And don't ever get it twisted
that Obama is gangster. Super

2744
02:54:41,490 --> 02:54:45,570
gangster. And the reason why I
say that is 41

2745
02:54:46,140 --> 02:54:49,020
and Joan Rivers her daughter
Melissa revealing tonight she

2746
02:54:49,020 --> 02:54:51,270
received a handwritten note
paying tribute to her late

2747
02:54:51,270 --> 02:54:54,330
mother that note from President
Obama writing quote, not only

2748
02:54:54,330 --> 02:54:56,790
did she make us laugh, she made
us think

2749
02:54:57,570 --> 02:54:58,890
she made us think

2750
02:54:59,610 --> 02:55:07,440
yes A handwritten note from
Obama. He just called you gay,

2751
02:55:07,440 --> 02:55:11,340
your wife trainee? Oh, yeah. She
made us laugh. She made her

2752
02:55:11,340 --> 02:55:13,680
think a little too much. Do you

2753
02:55:13,680 --> 02:55:18,090
remember? Do you remember the
time that was? President Obama

2754
02:55:18,090 --> 02:55:21,840
was speaking. And I think there
might have been a war memorial.

2755
02:55:22,680 --> 02:55:26,760
Any any any? He's referring to
you know, Mike and I, we,

2756
02:55:27,179 --> 02:55:31,709
yeah, Michael and Michael. He
did it on several occasions. But

2757
02:55:31,709 --> 02:55:36,059
like I said, I don't want to I
don't have proof either way, on

2758
02:55:36,059 --> 02:55:40,499
what she is or isn't. But that
fact that wasn't covered in the

2759
02:55:40,499 --> 02:55:43,949
news and that he follows up with
a handwritten note to Melissa

2760
02:55:43,949 --> 02:55:50,099
River. She made us laugh, she
made this thing. That's like a

2761
02:55:50,159 --> 02:55:52,949
stone cold, like gangsta
moonlight. Did it come wrapped

2762
02:55:52,949 --> 02:55:54,569
in like a dead fish or
something?

2763
02:55:55,530 --> 02:55:59,580
Like, like, I stir and then I
sent the kid a note. That is

2764
02:55:59,580 --> 02:56:03,090
really I love your thinking Mo.

2765
02:56:04,260 --> 02:56:08,460
No, it's just but and I want to
say this before I play this last

2766
02:56:08,490 --> 02:56:14,760
clip. This is the hill Obama
chose to die on metaphorically

2767
02:56:14,760 --> 02:56:17,700
or figuratively. And that's the
transgender bathroom,

2768
02:56:17,730 --> 02:56:20,910
the bathroom. That's right. This
and

2769
02:56:22,260 --> 02:56:25,620
I want to say enraged, but just
that was the tipping point for

2770
02:56:25,620 --> 02:56:30,540
black people. It's like, come on
brah. Like, I mean, you did DACA

2771
02:56:30,870 --> 02:56:36,540
you did gay marriage before us.
I mean, the guy said before us,

2772
02:56:36,750 --> 02:56:40,200
you did all these other things.
And then your last year to

2773
02:56:40,740 --> 02:56:45,120
transgender bathrooms. That's
the one you want it that's the

2774
02:56:45,120 --> 02:56:50,160
one you wanted, not reparations
not so the freeing people. So

2775
02:56:50,160 --> 02:56:53,790
the logic the logical conclusion
is this is the decision made by

2776
02:56:53,790 --> 02:56:56,700
a man who has a different
cultural history than was

2777
02:56:56,700 --> 02:57:01,110
portrayed. Yes. But and
different

2778
02:57:01,590 --> 02:57:04,350
values you parade around as
black when you play it out as

2779
02:57:04,350 --> 02:57:05,670
black that has certain

2780
02:57:06,750 --> 02:57:09,660
racist wishes. Yeah, sure. And

2781
02:57:09,660 --> 02:57:13,650
that's what you heard upset.
Upset. MICHAEL ERIC DYSON, like,

2782
02:57:14,160 --> 02:57:18,900
that's kind of what he was
saying like, bro, come on. I say

2783
02:57:18,900 --> 02:57:20,820
something. So little bit made.

2784
02:57:21,060 --> 02:57:24,660
Gray. Well, no, actually, I'll
ask you if he gets an extra. I

2785
02:57:24,840 --> 02:57:29,280
don't. Okay. There may be some
reasonings behind why he's so

2786
02:57:29,280 --> 02:57:36,270
sympathetic to this demographic,
and that's Obama's ex nanny.

2787
02:57:40,050 --> 02:57:43,860
66 year old EBU walks the
streets of her Indonesian slum.

2788
02:57:44,310 --> 02:57:48,300
She lives in a tiny room.
subsisting on money she earns

2789
02:57:48,300 --> 02:57:51,570
from washing clothes, EVs,
meager existence belies a

2790
02:57:51,570 --> 02:57:55,650
startling truth. She was once
nanny to President Barack Obama.

2791
02:57:57,120 --> 02:57:59,910
She's always been proud that the
person she cared for drove to

2792
02:57:59,910 --> 02:58:03,210
school and cooked for ended up
being number one in the world.

2793
02:58:03,240 --> 02:58:06,330
The future president was just
eight years old at the time. In

2794
02:58:06,330 --> 02:58:09,990
the late 1960s. His mother and
Donna married her second husband

2795
02:58:09,990 --> 02:58:13,170
and moved to Indonesia. Dunham
was impressed by EVs cooking

2796
02:58:13,170 --> 02:58:16,680
ability, and offered her a job
for two years he lived with

2797
02:58:16,680 --> 02:58:20,370
Obama and his family in this
Jakarta home. But she thinks the

2798
02:58:20,370 --> 02:58:23,520
young Obama didn't know one
fundamental truth about her.

2799
02:58:24,030 --> 02:58:29,310
born a man. He identifies as a
woman. He says and Donna might

2800
02:58:29,310 --> 02:58:31,530
have known she was
transgendered, but she never

2801
02:58:31,530 --> 02:58:34,620
dressed as a woman in front of
Youngberry Edie has struggled

2802
02:58:34,620 --> 02:58:38,460
through life, saying she's never
found suitable works until Obama

2803
02:58:38,460 --> 02:58:42,000
and his family left the country
in the early 1970s. But she says

2804
02:58:42,000 --> 02:58:44,550
Obama's election gave her a
reason to feel proud for the

2805
02:58:44,550 --> 02:58:48,720
first time and a longtime Matt
Friedman, Associated Press.

2806
02:58:49,920 --> 02:58:55,800
Wow. So thank you for that, too.
I didn't know that story there.

2807
02:58:55,830 --> 02:59:01,500
Damn, you. Damn, you allow that
listen, Maurice. You gotta stop

2808
02:59:01,500 --> 02:59:08,280
this. What do you what do you
think the strategy was, for

2809
02:59:08,310 --> 02:59:11,880
whoever is was controlling Obama
and every president is

2810
02:59:11,880 --> 02:59:14,340
controlled one way or the other.
This current one is probably

2811
02:59:14,340 --> 02:59:18,570
more controlled by military than
anything. What do you think the

2812
02:59:18,570 --> 02:59:24,060
strategy was? What Why choose
those particular issues to go

2813
02:59:24,060 --> 02:59:28,620
out with and not? I mean, sorry
to put it just toss a bone. I

2814
02:59:28,620 --> 02:59:31,410
mean, why not a single thing?
What do you think the idea was

2815
02:59:31,410 --> 02:59:31,860
there?

2816
02:59:33,060 --> 02:59:36,690
Well, if you look at it from
from a Marxist mindset, it's all

2817
02:59:36,690 --> 02:59:37,560
about the conflict.

2818
02:59:38,610 --> 02:59:43,080
So keep the conflict going and
just add some LGBTQIA PK to we

2819
02:59:43,080 --> 02:59:43,410
got

2820
02:59:43,530 --> 02:59:48,090
a good cost thing. I want to say
this correctly. The LGBT

2821
02:59:48,090 --> 02:59:51,840
community was sitting back on
their laurels, celebrating the

2822
02:59:51,840 --> 02:59:58,110
marriage thing. So it's like now
at another level because

2823
02:59:58,710 --> 02:59:59,970
you didn't win nothing.

2824
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:03,720
You know what's in here? Oh wow.

2825
03:00:04,380 --> 03:00:08,280
Sisters and brothers have their
own bathroom. There is no

2826
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victory

2827
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well that of course is not the
end of the Barack Hussein Obama

2828
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story. The berry so Tonto story
this story will continue and I

2829
03:00:18,810 --> 03:00:21,630
look forward to unpacking
whatever comes our way with you

2830
03:00:21,630 --> 03:00:26,220
mo because I think this a lot
well, I'm not gonna say it

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because it's your it's your
tagline to say

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yes, pay attention to everything
and the truth will reveal

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03:00:33,000 --> 03:00:34,500
itself. And that

2834
03:00:34,530 --> 03:00:37,950
is our motto ladies and
gentlemen Moe thank you so much

2835
03:00:38,010 --> 03:00:39,660
at a good time man as always,

2836
03:00:40,740 --> 03:00:43,920
as always, Adam and I'll see you
next week. Remember it's mo

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03:00:43,920 --> 03:00:47,400
facts.com If you want to support
us directly you producers are

2838
03:00:47,400 --> 03:00:51,930
encouraged to do that. mov fu nd
me.com We'll see you next week

2839
03:00:51,930 --> 03:00:53,970
right here on mo facts with Adam
curry.

2840
03:00:54,449 --> 03:00:58,439
I chose this particular song
because the words have a very

2841
03:00:58,439 --> 03:01:03,899
special message I've heard a lot
of songs and I've sang a lot of

2842
03:01:03,899 --> 03:01:09,029
songs but none of them really
really came right out and call

2843
03:01:09,029 --> 03:01:15,929
the spade as fade this song
tells it just like it is the

2844
03:01:15,929 --> 03:01:22,859
message is simply that it's just
about an impossible task to

2845
03:01:22,859 --> 03:02:22,049
figure out which of your friends
don't tell Do you know just

2846
03:02:22,589 --> 03:02:32,429
coming from know let the
handshake and the smiles ticket

2847
03:02:32,639 --> 03:02:59,909
demand buys all the time
sometimes still looking at the

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03:02:59,909 --> 03:03:13,499
kitchen Thanks Obama