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Oh, no. Well, I think they miss school because my wife is even
harder on. They get at school. We're still getting them
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something to anticipate. And of course, depending on how how
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the show is, is posted. So what do we got going on for today?
Well, what's, what's the word,
but you had to spin the wheel.
spinning the wheel of clips, the wheel of topics, the Wheel of
Fortune here on Moe facts let's find out what today's topic will
be where the wheel stops nobody knows here we go the clip and go
black identity extremists. What's that?
Black identity extremists? Yeah, he's this is this is the
opposite of white nationalist extremists.
I think it's the exact same, but just different groups. Oh, okay.
All right. I saw this is a term that cropped up in around 2017
by a leaked FBI document. And so I waited too much time. I mean,
it's been on my radar. But if I have time to actually dig into
these things, I don't like to address them. So I thought this
is this would be a great time. So this is so
this is from your your your long, long term, open, open case
open open cases file. This is where you live from the list.
Got it. All right, good. Good, good. Good.
So I guess we'll just jump right in with FBI warns of terror.
Black identity extremists now considered a domestic terror
threat by the FBI Bureau releasing an explosive new
report claiming police officers are being targeted by people who
perceive racial injustice is the FBI says the 2014 shooting death
of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, spawned the threat
against cops Brown's death, also sparking violent riots across
the country.
Was this a TMZ report? Because it sure sounded like
it actually it was a Fox News report and the music and the
jazz and it was the same thing it caught my attention to I'm
glad you picked up on that
TMZ Fox no difference.
So have you heard of this term? I want to know what you know
about it and I don't think I have I
black extremists black identity extremists now it also it's not
a great term. If I'm going to be a terrorist. You know, what's it
you know? I'm a terrorist over my identity. It just it sounds
kind of wimpy
is bi II. I mean, that was the yes,
it's not quite like it was not quite like Black Panthers if you
know what I mean. Yes. Big right Panthers. Okay. And I guess no
roll out? That's not really no. But I had not heard of as far as
I know.
So that's interesting. So they tried to push this term. And
obviously it didn't make it across the threshold. But it was
trending on Black Twitter. And I'm just I'm just shocked that
you didn't show up on your timeline anytime. Maybe it's
before you actually started tracking it.
Yeah, maybe the algos just took it away from me, you never know.
Right. But it was a huge talking point on the pro black side of
things. Because basically, it was similar to what we've seen
in the past, with groups being targeted in how they create
narratives. But today show we're not going to go too deep into
the groups that are being labeled this because there is no
clear group or groups being identified as this. But how this
term came about. And you know, I'm all about narrative. I'm all
about how they create these terms and always like it again
to find out what the origin of these these things are.
And it's also good if we'll find out today, why this one failed?
And or did or was it stopped? I don't know.
I don't know either. But I guess we can get into FBI sites black
extremists terror.
Meanwhile, the FBI warns this get this. They warned Americans
of new a new domestic terror threat. Black identity
extremists. What's that?
Well, it goes back to a lot of these police shootings. When we
look at a Alton Sterling shooting in Louisiana, for
example, you had a man man that decided in retaliation for that
to shoot officers, the same thing held true in Dallas, you
had another mad man that decided to shoot police officer who was
a veteran. It's right, right, exactly. But when we think about
these African American extremists, this is something
that's a byproduct of, I'm gonna say black lives matter in a lot
of these other organizations. And I don't want to say black
lives matter cause they However, they do have a responsibility to
marshal in the following to ensure that I shouldn't say
ensure, but let them know that we are going to protest for
peace, and they fail that that therefore they do have a level
of
complacency. Okay, so I heard a splinter group of black lives
matter in that report. Well,
what these two brought up is that the Black Lives Matter
movement kind of whipped up this this anger or frustration with
police officers?
I think it's fair to say a lot of anger is no looking at what
we saw in Baltimore, a lot of anger,
created a lot of anger. But there was no organ organization
to the anger. Now how it got started, we've talked about it
on the show before they became came top down. We've already
laid out the links in previous shows of George Soros and the
funding of him to Black Lives Matter. But the violent acts,
those were not tied to any specific group. And I think this
was the point of this label, so they could kind of lump all the
act bad actors under one title.
Right, in order to Okay, well, that's an interesting by itself.
Yeah. So maybe it wasn't a group, but they just gave it a
name. And that's all these people doing this,
where you saw the same thing with white nationalist and
making white groups terror, making them terrorist groups.
And it's the same thing, but I think this does happen prior to
it just didn't take and it's funny to only found clips like
official news clips on the Fox network. I'm not just I'm not
cherry picking from Fox, I'm just the the ones that were
communicating it as an actual threat. We're only coming from
Fox.
Well, that's, that's the reason why it never got any legs right
there. If you try to launch a meme through Fox is gonna die.
It's, you know, anything that comes out of there, the other
networks will never pick up. They'll never it'll never agree
on that. But I do like I find it interesting that someone was out
there and needed to name them.
Yeah, and when you see something being named like that, it always
it always just like, I was like, where's this going? Where's this
coming from? I've never knew of any particular group that was
speaking offense to violence. Now you have groups that speak
of self defense, but you have that on all spectrums of every
race have, you know, if anybody comes at you, you have the right
to defend yourself. I mean, that's just as American as apple
pie, but I never saw like the the offensive or going out and
attacking people. So that's what raised my arm raised the flag on
this situation. And as you mentioned before, if Fox was
trying to push this, then you had the more liberal media
pushing it back against this right and one of those
organizations is being Vice.
Yes, we're more an advertising agency than anything but yes.
And you're going to see that even be even more true and it's
next to the clips from inside the FBI hunt for black identity
extremists in the
early morning hours. So December 12 2017, former Marine and black
activist Christopher Daniels, aka rock combat lagoon was
arrested at his home for unlawful gun possession. So what
would warrant such a dramatic arrest and a possible jail
sentence of 10 years? According to a leaked FBI document,
there's a new group of domestic terrorists black identity
extremists Wow,
that was very, I left that tail on there. Just
to SET set the mood. Identity extreme.
I left it on there purposely and I did it on a couple of clips to
see the tone of this documentary or expos as they did on quote
unquote, black identity extremist.
And what name did this guy have Christopher Daniels is what I
heard.
know his name was if you gonna read it, but I didn't catch his
name, but more important that his name is him being a former
Marine. Yeah, pay attention. Everybody out there, pay
attention. Make a note of the connection with the military
with these extremist. It'll be laid out later. But they, as
they pointed out ex Marine, where's this going? What is what
is this? I've never heard of this guy before? No. As I told,
as I said before, that I am aware listened to a lot of
different points of view on the black experience, correct? Yes,
this guy has never rested on my radar ever and all of a sudden
vices doing a huge story on him. And well, I'll let them continue
on. telling about his story.
Right Ken was greeted at home by family and members of Gorilla
mainframe, the black activist group that Rakim co founded on
their website driller mainframe describes themselves as a
community based political organization. Their activities
include food drives, self defense classes, weapons
training, and open carry neighborhood patrols. It was
these kinds of activities which are visible across grilla
mainframe and Rakim social media accounts that Rakim believes
made him a target of the FBI.
Wow, a lot of suppositions in there. Holy crap. I can't
believe I have found one story from the intercept fear of a
black homeland. The strange tale of the FBI is fictional black
identity extremism movement. Okay. This is interesting. I bet
you came across this as well as you were researching it.
Yes, yes, I did. And what I found strange or interesting was
the name of his group. Gorilla mainframe. Yeah, Bill, not the
animal but like Gu e r r i L L A. Now the definition of
guerrilla itself is a person who engages in irregular warfare,
especially as a member of the independent unit, carrying out
harassment and sabotage. Second, and this is from Merriam
Webster. And the second definition is or relating to or
suggestive of gorillas, especially being aggressive,
radical, and unconventional.
Yes, it's not great. Guerrilla warfare is not good.
I'm talking about why would you name your organization? Gorilla
main frame, Gorilla mainframe? I mean, you put in a big red
beacon say, hey, come investigate
me. Kinda.
Does that make any sense?
Do they have gorilla mainframe.com to just registered
to their home address is
that they have a website and they had several YouTube videos.
But they were just talking about basically the same thing that
the Black Panther was doing feeding the kids and self
defense. And I didn't really say take anything away from negative
but it's just all this is just way too convenient.
Yeah, I hear you. I hear ex ex military
guy. Now he comes home and he's trying to raise a new Black
Panther Party a quote unquote, new Black Panther Party. And
he's the first arrest under this new black ID the black identity
extremists label. So I guess we need to figure out why the
label?
Yes, I'd like to know
there's this perception that the government promote that we are
in a stage Have a critical emergency because of terrorism.
And that's because they get more power. And in order to retain
that power they need to find more terrorists. One of the most
outspoken critics of the black identity extremists assessment
is Michael German, the former FBI agent who did undercover
work on white supremacists and right wing militias in the 90s.
He's now a fellow for the Brennan Center for Justice. What
is sensitive? Do you believe that the FBI has to make a label
like black identity extremists,
a person cannot be targeted for investigation based solely on
First Amendment activity. So by creating this black identity
extremism movement, they can use that as the justification to
then target any activists who are any black person who is
protesting police violence. One of my problems with this kind of
half intelligence report is these are six disparate acts of
violence that they try to mold into a movement there was really
nothing connecting them except the fact that they killed police
officers in the fact that they were black.
Yeah, this is so typical for the FBI to do these types of things.
I'll just give you my my my gripe. My gripe upfront just
like I was waiting for just just recently in the news. The fact
that was during the during the right after the president, you
know, said hey, everybody should stay home for you No, no more
than 10 of course a lot of cities even Austin started to
lock down all of a sudden after months of using a confidential a
form informant to jack up some guy who lives with his
grandmother to get them all freaky and like oh, yeah, now I
want to go kill everybody in the in the hospital, you know, show
this Coronavirus is a hoax, and they give him a phony bomb and
they give him all the oil, just get them all jacked up to go.
And then they arrest him and the guy was armed. And you know, so
then a shootout occurred, convenient, the guy's dead. So
he can just happens a lot. But this is a a cycle for the FBI,
they do this kind of stuff every six weeks, or they used to do it
every six weeks. And our new agenda shows a theory on this.
And this comes from people inside the FBI who suggested as
much is now they got to keep in the public eye, they got to keep
the budgets coming got to stay relevant. And now it seems like
Oh man, what a stretch, we're actually going to create a group
name just to lumping a whole bunch of things. And then with
that comes the same opportunity to pop things off at times that
are convenient for the FBI or the Department of Justice
wherever it's convenient for just like this Missouri bomber,
I think what what what a great moment to terrify the citizens
even more, they could have waited.
And the catalyst for this really, and it's a little
foreshadowing here into the rest of the show. It was two events,
both several events, but two main events. And that was the
shooting and Dallas. Yes, yes, I think five cops. Yep. And then
the shooting and Baton Rouge that killed three cop cops. That
happened. I think it was like 10 days
was a real messy period. All that happened in just the span
of a month or so all that stuff.
I think was like July 7 in the second was July 17. Quote me on
those dates, but I think it was roughly there. So they took
these two separate events that had nothing to do with each
other and say, Oh, we're gonna roll them up. And that's what
the gentleman that just spoke in the last clip was saying yeah,
roll them up into one thing 111 label one lay one label one
create a label and then like you said with the six week cycle
that I became aware of on the no agenda show that now we have a
new we have a new brand.
Yeah, but this these guys mess it up clean. I don't know what
went wrong. Maybe we'll find out but what I would if I was in the
meeting, like Alright, I got a great idea guys. Hey, we're one
pull this together. We'll give it a name. And then we can do
stuff with it. We can arrest people do all kinds have it you
know, get money budgets. Create something scary. Yeah. Good
idea. Boss. What are we going to call it? Black identity
extremists?
Yeah, that's terrible.
Like gorilla gorilla.
What was it to a gorilla mane for real
a mainframe. Now that's a name. It's like, Whoa, yeah, that
sounds scary.
And the reason why I think this is just me speculating. I don't
think you heard about this from left wing of mainstream media is
they were so supportive of Black Lives Matter. And this bi is
basically tied. They're trying to tie it to black lives matter.
So if the left wing of the media starts pushing this narrative,
then they're complicit because they are the one that put the
battery in the back of Black Lives Matter. So they just like
we want to suppress this and make it go away.
Right and that would explain why Fox would be interested in
hyping the story up because they want to discredit everything the
left does everything the left sponsors, which would be Black
Lives Matter.
And they've always been anti Black Lives Matter. So it just
fits the brand. Easy jump to go from black lives matter to bi E.
I mean, maybe even the acronym is like a easy jump because like
if you use the acronym instead of the,
like, LM D. Yeah, yeah, I think they should have done notorious
bi E. And then that would have been better than just bi e just
me, man, I live for this stuff. The guy thought
that you start advertising. Let's get BI for.
On August 3 2017, the FBI created the black identity
extremists assessment using the Dallas 2016 shooting and five
other unrelated attacks on police as justification that
this movement exists. Black identity
extremists now considered a domestic terror threat by the
FBI.
According to the FBI assessment, it was very likely that these
terrorists would target law enforcement officers in
retaliation for perceived police violence against African
Americans. Due to the assessment classifying the group as a
domestic terror organization The FBI is able to justify any
invasive surveillance tactics used in monitoring these
targeted individuals
wow wow Hold on a second black black I didn t I gotta now I
gotta find this black identity extremists and it was a terror
group classification well that thing is useless then if you can
just name it and then say
and then these groups overlap Oh
my god. Here it is here it is. Big Notorious BIG was a
designation Nuba home on second I thought it had terror I
thought I saw this somewhere
I don't see an official I wonder who has to name something
official for it to be an official terrorist group. Know
what I'm not I'm
not sure. I mean, it's on the FBIs list saw me it's not a bar
jump. To get to get me the rights to investigate or to
circumvent people's, their people's given rights to
investigate them. But I just want to point out one other
thing. The mind control music and it's
no, it's good. That's vice man. They're very they're really good
at that. It gives you a whole documentary feel to it and just
pushing you through you can't even question what's what's
being told it's good.
Well, when this term popped up on people's timelines, and when
this leaked document started to get legs, there was only one
comparison to bring up and we brought it up in show 15 And
this is a throwback clip from their secret COINTELPRO.
We know the government watches us but what about when
government surveillance changes the course of history. In the
1960s, the US government started a program called COINTELPRO or
the counter intelligence program. The program was a
series of secret FBI initiatives targeting activist political and
minority groups. The American Indian movement, the Black
Panthers, Martin Luther King, women's and civil rights groups,
Vietnam War protesters, and anyone who got the government
seeing red tactics used included infiltration and surveying and
discrediting leaders and causes in order to undermine entire
movements and organizations. But a lot of what COINTELPRO did was
illegal, and it was officially disbanded in 1971. Though if you
ask me any activist groups and political dissidents, it still
exists. Just him another form.
Oh, well, yeah, of course. It's just like, yes, Operation
Mockingbird also ended apparently.
Yes. The MK Ultra ended. Yeah, it all ended. Oh, yeah, sure if
we
continued under a different name, but those those programs
ended. Yeah, fair enough. Well,
this is nothing new. And I'll just show in the last clip.
These kinds of things have been going on and one of the will any
black group that pushes anything other than non violence is
labeled as radically the word. The previous term was radical
militant. Yeah. You know, these were the terms that were
labeled. Now we have extremist. One of those people that were
labeled as an extremist was Malcolm X. Of course,
a black man is supposed to have no black man strength is an
extreme. He's supposed to sit passively and have no feelings
be non violent, and love his enemy, no matter what kind of
attack is verbal or otherwise, he's Ebola taken by the fans up
and in any way tries to defend himself. And he's an extremist.
Know I think Fisher who preceded me is getting exactly what he
asked for. Main reason for believing in
extremists. Wow, that was that was another scary clip.
Well, I want to say this, those Funkmaster Flex bombs, not an
original clip. These were this is the only place I could find
his speech and whoever posted it put these explosive bombs in the
background. Every time he made an excellent point is a bit
distracting. But I mean, you have to use the source material
that you're given
right now. And I get the point. In fact, I'd like to make
another point. We are dealing here with a BPE. blocked with
black podcasting extremists. Right there. Mo I see you,
ama. You wonder where this Okay, I gotta be honest, you wonder
where this topic came from. And this is Nichelle the kick and
connectivity between the shows. I ended the last show off with
the school of fish analogy. Yes. And part of that school of fish
analogy is one, the fish can't be too close together, or too
far apart. Now, with that analogy, this is the reason why,
if we're if we're going to be successful at creating change,
we can't be too close together because they always can create
these terms. They have sound infiltrators, as we've seen
throughout history, and to divide they to divide and
destroy and discredit. And yeah, whatever term you well the term
you want to use. So that is, that is how we got from last
show to this show.
Okay, got it.
And to be fair, Malcolm X. That's right. He's not usable in
the same way Martin Luther King is usable, because King was
about non violence and loving each other, which we should love
each other. But as soon as you as Malcolm pointed out in the
previous clip, as soon as you start talking about protecting
yourself, and this is not only so called blacks, quote unquote,
blacks, this is any group as soon as you start talking about
defending yourself, then you're our problem.
Although if black people go with white people to the state
capitol with guns, it's all white extremists just so you
know. I saw some black faces there but it was all white
extremist
and you saw a lot and that's really really railed that whole
anti gun because it's like we don't have a clean we don't have
a clean camera shot without having a black person Hey, move
that guy over to the left a little bit yeah, I can get my
shot so right.
And then you if you do that, then you start bringing these
people that have similar ideologies together.
Bad idea can't have getting together and having thoughts.
That's why this podcast is so dangerous.
Notorious BPE mo facts
so um, let's continue listen to listen to Malcolm X a little bit
more
intelligently directed extremism, extremism in defense
of liberal extremism in question just because I firmly believe in
my heart that the day that the Glassman uncompromising and
realizes that he's within his rights when his own freedom is
being jeopardized, to use any means necessary to bring about
his freedom or put a halt to that injustice. As I don't think
you'll be by himself, I live in America where there are only 22
million blacks against probably 160 million white. One of the
reasons that I'm in no way reluctant or hesitant to do
whatever is necessary to see that black people do something
to protect themselves. I honestly believe that the thing
that they do, many whites will have more respect for them. And
then there'll be more whites on their sides and are now on the
side with these little wishy washy Luddites love diathermy
approach that they've been using up to now. And if I'm wrong,
then you were raised.
Man, he would have been great as a podcaster. I'm not kidding, I
can voice forever, I can listen forever. It is such a great
cadence. It's just a perfect tone to it would have been
great.
And that's why I love doing this show with you. Because prior to
you even hearing that clip, you pointed out Virginia. Yeah. And
he followed up with that point that when black people start
showing that we want to protect ourselves and exercise our
rights given to us by the first and second amendment will
actually garner more support. That's right. That's right.
That's right. And that's what that's the dangerous part is
like no, no, no. Can't keep them separate. Separate it? Well,
that was the little history on these kinds of things being been
dumped been done all throughout history, we saw the same thing
with Marcus Garvey. And how J. Edgar Hoover had it up for him.
And he was for the self defense.
It's lighter. It's fascinating. It's fascinating how we all fall
for the same Gambit every single time.
Every single time. And it's like, when, when the media shows
pictures of black men with guns in their hands. They can whip up
fear.
Yeah, I'll say they can
whip up fear and man that in turns, you know, demonizes and
makes the makes them extremists. Now this thing got, they did get
attention from the government. And one of the people it did get
attention from and I gotta give her props, was representative
Karen Bass. And just a little background on Ms. Karen Bass.
She is She's a Democrat, and also a member of the Black
national caucus, the Black Caucus. Yep, she represents
Culver City, south south, south Los Angeles. And, um, one
interesting thing I saw about her, she was the acting chair of
the subcommittee on crime, terrorism and homeland security.
So I just found that interesting, but for for this
show, she's gonna be the big bay. Okay, so if she actually
took God, she called, she called a, a form on highlighting our
black identity stream on stream ism.
I don't believe black identity extremists exists. And I believe
that the FBI should retract the document, and should send out a
document throughout law enforcement saying that black
identity extremists do not exist. They kick they gave no
information to us as to how they came up with that category. And
to me, what they really need to be concerned about is white
identity extremists, but that seems mystified.
Oh, there we go. It's working. It does. Because if you
highlight one group than the other, that group is going to
point out all the represent so called represented that group is
going to point out what about the other side's coordinates?
Say, oh, yeah, you're right. Let's investigate everybody.
Just called American extremists, identity extremists, whatever.
It's horrible. Yes.
And like I said, she did have this form. And um, she, I have
to give her credit, because she did bring attention to how this
thing was just thrown together, rolled out to law enforcement,
and it was like, What are we supposed to do? Who are we
looking for? I mean, usually when you have you're doing some
kind of investigation in you know, like, What's the motive
was the who are the perps? You know, that kind of thing. It's
like now it's just a group. At that time they say anything
extreme. Now we have the right to him when we got him. Yeah, we
got one. That's a that's a very dangerous premise. And the way
this works is, in my mind, a lot of these groups overlap. You
have members that are members of two or more groups. So once you
start connecting in that chain to well, they're in
organization, ABC. And also, you know, you could spider
women back spider web it and show this so called huge
organization which may have some actual interlinking connections.
But again, the original premise is just what's what's, what's
extremism, and what's identity in this case.
Right, it made us clearly identified those two terms for
you. But let's go back to some more highlights from the form.
The point of the document is that it's saying that black
identity extremists are organized to kill law
enforcement officers. My concern about it is, especially since it
was distributed to law enforcement around the country,
is that I consider the declaration of open season on
young black activists that I have a particular concern about,
especially people who were involved in the Black Lives
Matter movement, or any movement that's trying to hold police
accountable. That reminded me of my days here in Los Angeles, as
a young activist, protesting the LAPD and the level of repression
that we went through, there was nobody we could talk to during
those years. And so I feel a very personal responsibility to
make sure that that document is retracted.
Not. So let me just understand a few things. First of all, do you
know what the actual document is that's being referred to
continuously here is a leak
if that leaked, the running theme in this whole
administration and how the media has covered it? It's a leaked
document.
Okay. Have we actually ever seen the document that does not mean
the document
or the document? Yeah. Well, I'll say this Opsahl copies, but
I couldn't validate that was the official document. I'll say
that, because you've seen it posted online, but I'm not sure
if that's, and I didn't want to report it, you know, right. As
if I can't validate it. Right. Which How do you validate a
leaked document? Is your document I'm going to refer to
so and who
was running the F. Now this is, this is before Trump was elected
when this was put into place, was it not?
No, it was 2017 when it came out.
Okay, but they were referring back to things that happened.
Well, no, no, the Dallas shooting was was under Trump.
No, that was under Obama, and Obama. And this is part of it.
This is part of the story, because it's like, why did you
think start cropping up right at the end of of Obama's
administration going into the 2016 elections? So
I don't know if you're, if you have this covered, was it James
Comey still running the FBI? At that point? It must have been
Yes. It had
to be because he carried over, carry over.
Wow, mommy's lap. Ah, this is something that is underreported.
I'm sure it is even more reason why the left the more liberal
side of media had no reason to.
I mean, this is like stop and fix on steroids.
Yes, it is. Yes, it is. But let's let Karen Bass finish up.
Well, with our form,
the numbers suggest that 83% of the shots fire as incidents
we've had since 2009, a right wing extremists. And so again,
as we as I'm challenged to the report here, and trying to be
fair, I'm just trying to understand where this data came
from and how they put it together. Right,
exactly. And they can't answer that. How could you distribute a
document to law enforcement agencies around the country?
Exactly. What is that category based on? When it comes to
terrorism? It seems like it's only called terrorism if you're
a person of color, especially if you're Muslim.
See, my love for her was short lived.
Yeah. And it ended right there.
When she broke my heart, doing so well. We're talking about BI
E. And as I always say, they use us to open the door. We'll have
holding the door. And it's the classic example. Yeah. Well, the
conversation started around Bie. And now it pivots back to
Muslims. Yeah, well, I'll color a color people.
Hey, thanks. Thanks for holding the door open,
y'all. Oh, y'all welcome. Good work.
That Well, good on Karen man, Karen Bass.
I gotta give her props call that we have when good work. And so I
have some clips from the actual form. That was the highlights.
It was a four minute video highlighting you know, the
things that were discussed in a form, but I have some clips from
her talking to Mr. Jeff Sessions. And and this is a The
clip if bath bath if there's FBI report on black identity
extremist.
Okay, so you're not you haven't necessarily read the report, but
you are familiar with the term black identity extremists?
Well, I think so, yes.
So can you tell me what that term means to you? Do you
believe that there is a movement of African Americans that
identify themselves as black identity extremists? And what
does that move into?
Well, I'd be interesting to see the conclusions of that report.
But I'm aware that there are groups that do have an
extraordinary commitment to their racial identity, and some
have transformed themselves even into violent activist.
And that was sessions. Yes, sessions. Right. So sessions,
Attorney General came in after Loretta Lynch when Trump the
Trump administration started.
Correct. Right. And in the way they framed this term is this is
from Trump's FBI. Oh, he's like, no, please call me.
Yeah, this is not Trump's FBI. Right. They shape
they shaped it very well to you know, exclude anybody that
they're friendly to? Well. So let's just let her let's finish
out her talking with sessions.
Could you name an African American organization that have
committed violent acts against police officers? Could you name
one today in this report? They name organizations from 3040
years ago, but can you name a one today that has targeted
police officers in a violent manner?
Wu Tang Clan?
I believe I could, but I would want to be to confirm that and
submit it to you in writing. But I believe we had within the last
year or so for police officers killed by a group that some have
described as extremist,
what has happened is, is that there have been a couple of
instances in which African Americans did kill police
officers were not associated with a black organization. And
so one, for example, in Baton Rouge was associated with
sovereign citizens, which is primarily a white group.
So you even heard Jeff Sessions say there are we had a couple of
events and yeah, yeah, cut out these two events. They created a
whole identity not
even he said that he only mentioned one didn't he like the
foreign
thing in Dallas and out that he was waiting for? I think he was
referring to Dallas. It was five. Yeah, okay. Yeah. And
there were three and three in Baton Rouge. Maybe he just
rounded he was like, okay, average of four. I don't know
how you got to the fort number, but he couldn't even name a
group. If you have a. If you have a real threat, you can say
okay, just to say instance, I'm a radical Islamic terrorism, you
could say you have the Taliban and you have al Qaeda, you know,
go down the list, right? Oh, but now he couldn't even give one
he's like a kid submitted in writing, which had me I had to
help them. I go look up one. And what
was this? Was this a congressional hearing? Yes.
Okay. So he was probably caught off guard by this.
Yeah, cuz he didn't even he didn't even know. I don't think
he's in the previous one. I didn't clip sounds like he
didn't. He didn't know of the report. Okay. Okay. Which I find
strange is well, but the optics is there you have Jeff Sessions,
who's if you had to cast the racist in a movie, I'm just
saying I'm not saying he is racist or not is or isn't
racist. What he picks that casting we always talk about
show up. Oh, totally, totally. You have the southern accent,
older white man. And he's like, oh, yeah, you
know, he has kind of the physique of a garden gnome. You
know, all the things that you just like, he's like, Oh, I can
I can hate that guy. That's easy to do.
Yep. So here we are. And before we actually get into those
events that he alluded to, I want to give a little clip have
we not we've heard we saw the videos with Black Lives Matter.
Colin cops, pigs and yes, was it baked bacon something let them
fry? Oh, yeah.
Here peek we saw let him fry. Yeah.
I want to make one point before we play the next clip. One. I
think a lot of this racial identity. Protesting is a form
of cosplay. That's my personal opinion.
I see that. It's the same with Antifa. I find that that's also
a lot of cosplay.
So the what happens is you Have these organizations like Black
Lives Matter, so I'm not letting them off the hook in any form of
fashion because I know who they represent. They go out, they get
people in the streets, and then they have their agitators come
out while in the group, throw a rock, throw a bottle, whatever
else and then it calls his group. herd mentality and
dislike all hell breaks loose. Yeah. So I'm not taking a jump
jump provocateur.
Thank you, sir. But what I will say is, there was also very
nasty and vicious language, specifically for Fox. But what
they will bring on these black law enforcement officers, and
they will use some of the most well just get into the next
clip,
Sheriff, your reaction to some of the some of the sentiments
you heard on the streets on Saturday?
Well, it's just crazy talk. That's ignorance in its purest
form. You know, I think we need to rethink the strategy. I don't
know why the police even bother policing those demonstrations or
not protest those people advocate for the overthrow of
our legally constituted government. Let them fit, let
them fend for themselves. But the good life law abiding people
of New York, clashed with them for disrupting their lives,
disrupting their businesses, then the police can show up and
arrest the subhuman creeps for creating a disturbance that we
can do. Now which sheriff
was this? Best Sheriff Clark? Clark, who was black? Yes. Oh,
and he's a butter biscuit. Bad carrying eater
hat where you forgot hat where? Yeah,
where he is. And the reason why I say that is to come. When you
talk about groups, you have to use nuance. And I tried to do
that, to show not to print with a wide brush. Any group? Because
as I explained before, you have a lot of good people on both
sides. Yes,
fine. People. I think the term is fine. Give me five people,
five people
on both sides. Yeah, because a lot of people are frustrated,
and they just won't go out in the street and let out their
frustrations. And it may be cosplay, but it's it's
therapeutic. Those people are not violent. They just want to
have the feel like they have impact. They have an impact on
something. So they go out with their signs. And a lot of I will
say 90% of the people out there are just want to exercise their
First Amendment Amendment rights. But for a guy like this
to call them subhuman. And then later on call them garbage.
Yeah. Well, he said all I mean, he was talking about all of
them, not just the he didn't, you know, specifically say the
agitators or the violent people or those
allow me to give you a perspective from from, from my
point of view. Okay. Until we started this show, I would have
always thought of Sheriff David Clarke as a man, there's a cool
guy, you know, he's not taking any crap. He, he seems pretty
down to earth. But the more I start to learn, and as you said
the butter biscuits. He's taking license, he's actually abusing
his own skin color, to give himself license to use these
terms, which I find by itself offensive.
And what was even more rubs me the wrong way is if he was
talking about the Bundy Ranch, or the standoff, you know, with
white right wing groups. He wouldn't use the term subhuman.
I mean, that in itself has connotations of subhuman human
beings into the Tentler. Will not zactly goes back to that.
I'm glad you said that. So when you use that term, it's like
you. You borderline on premise yourself.
Sound you just made set it all right.
Yeah, it irks me because we can I come here and I point out
flaws on both sides. We can do that. But don't don't don't
denigrate people, especially people that are trying to just
watch the first, first right first amendment rights. Alright,
so
now, one question based upon what he said. Do you think it's
possible he was referring purely to the Zhaan provocateurs who
show up within the group and calling them out as subhuman or
did you really come across to you as he's calling the whole
everybody subhuman?
To be fair because I said a lot about him. Can we listen to the
last maybe 20 seconds of that clip so we can hear exactly how
he framed that?
Yeah, let's Let's do that because I thought he gave
himself some leeway possibly hold on. Let me
let them fit, let them fend for themselves. But the good life
law abiding people of New York, clashed with them for disrupting
their lives, disrupting their businesses, then the police can
show up and arrest the sub human creeps for creating a
disturbance that we can do.
Go back just a little bit further home.
Well, it's just crazy talk. That's ignorance in its purest
form. You know, I think we need to rethink the strategy. I don't
know why the police even bother policing those demonstrations
are not protest those people advocate for the overthrow of
are legally constituted.
Okay, so he's grouping them all together there. All right.
That's pretty clear. Pretty clear.
I'm glad we did that. Just to be clear, and that's how I took it.
But I was wanting to make sure that I wasn't a
no, no, you got it. You got it.
Alright, so now we have to set the stage is set. Oh, we're
trying to figure out how we got to be ice. We've heard kind of
the tone on the right hand side. We clearly know what the tone on
the on the pro Black Lives Matter pro anti police side is
because it was highly spread out in in August
and reported and discussed.
Correct. So let's just get into what happened in Dallas.
We begin with breaking news in Dallas, Texas, where at least
five police officers were killed when they were ambushed by at
least two snipers. The shooting began near the end of a protest
over the fatal police shootings of black men in Louisiana and
Minnesota. Six other officers and a civilian were injured.
Police are questioning at least three alleged suspects and
Manuel Bohorquez is in downtown Dallas, when well what is the
latest?
Well, Anne Marie some breaking news. Now we're learning that
the fourth suspect a man who was holed up inside a parking garage
not too far from where we are has now died of a self inflicted
gunshot wound. He had apparently been exchanging gunfire with
officers but we're learning that he has now died from a self
inflicted gunshot wound. As you mentioned, the gunfire erupted
in downtown Dallas with no warning turning this place into
a war zone and still very much resembling one right now.
Official saying the intent of the shooters was to kill as many
officers as possible.
Yeah, didn't go in wasn't like a robot that went around the
corner and shot
him or scary even carry easy. I'm
sorry. Sorry, guys. Let me just put them on. Hold on a second. I
got them right here. Okay,
let's stick with the news narrative as it's reported. So
we have two shooters. Yeah. And the one of the shooters killed
himself with self inflicted gunshot wound. That's what we
have. Right. That's
what we got now. Yes.
Okay, so let's get into the next clip.
Police say this was a coordinated attack.
At least two snipers. From elevated positions as the
protest rally March ended, began firing upon officers ambush
style.
As the gunfire rang out, police use their patrol cars for cover
as they moved in to help wounded officers.
We believe that the suspects were positioning themselves in a
way to triangulate on these officers from two different
purchase in garages in the downtown area and planned to
injure and kill as many law enforcement officers as they
could.
I never really heard this part of the story. Maybe I came in
late or something and I only heard the resolutions of it
interesting. This is July
8 2016. And the shooting happened on July 7, so this is
right off right after the shooting. Right. We have
multiple shooters. triangulating which I don't know how you
triangulate with two shooters but
and then it's
a cool term to throw out there. But we have multiple shooters
and we have one of the shooters killing themselves with this and
this is from the shirt that was a sharp talking. That wasn't I'm
not what me Excuse me. I think police chief police chief Yeah,
but that yeah, that was that wasn't like some conspiracy
theory
website. Police Chief of Dallas who I think also is black. Yes,
he is. Yeah.
But yeah, we have multiple shooters one killer himself what
if self inflicted gunshot wounds and that counters the narrative
that you heard, which you may have heard in this next clip,
and this morning we are getting new video and new eyewitness
accounts of the fear as well as the heroism during the shooting
in Dallas. We have team coverage this morning. And we do begin
with ABC is Matt Gutman right there on the ground in downtown
Dallas. Good morning, Matt.
Good morning, Paul on that fear and heroism you mentioned was
intensified by the fact that city officials thought they were
under siege by an unknown number of gunmen that night now that
they know it was a lone gunman. Officials are focusing on
investigating how he did this and patching Dallas back
together. There's a sniper from up here somewhere. It's a sniper
this morning as agents comb the streets for evidence. They're
learning more about the gunman.
There was confusion with everybody running around. But
this was a mobile shooter
who police che began blasting away shortly after this peaceful
demonstration in Dallas
on Thursday. Yeah,
I do. Shooter Yeah, all I just crazy Mo i. I remember there was
a lot of confusion, but I never heard the sheriff say so clearly
multiple. I thought it was like one of those Fog of War maybe
the first 30 minutes or so they thought that but that was the
day after and this is two days after. Then all of a sudden
everyone everyone got their story straight. Okay, we go
here's what it is boys. Yeah.
It's one shooter or a loan and they use the term loan loan
matter. Known shooter lone shooter. They say it was a saint
that is able to single shooter. It's the lone shooter. What
about the other people that were questioning? They say they were
questioning three other suspects what what happened with that?
And the reason why I'm saying this is I want you to put on
your black conspiracy theory hat. And you hear like, because
when these things happen, people follow them closely. I was
multiple shooters I was going on and then you come back and just
change the whole narrative. That was a long shoot lower shooter a
year. Yeah. That's smack of J. Edgar Hoover that mean that
Jake, who excuse me, I'm James Earl Ray that smacks of the JFK
assassination. You know, it's like it always goes back to this
one is,
especially the connotation of Dallas. Yeah.
I imagine that that was missed on me. Thank you for pointing
that out. So we have a now we're down to one shooter. No
mentioned that the three suspects and the curious
question of how he was killed.
Dallas PD shutting down the airspace over town thinking this
was an ambush with multiple shooters.
Somebody is really armed
to the team as there's not one person, but it was one shooter,
Micah Xavier Johnson.
Mr. Johnson had written manifestos on how to shoot move.
You see him in this video advancing with deadly efficiency
on this officer firing the officer gun down the toll 14th
Shot 12 of them officers. Five of the officers died towards
midnight SWAT teams finally corner Johnson on the second
floor of El Centro College
suspect's data he wants to kill white people, especially white
officers,
negotiations break down then police use an explosive mounted
on a robot similar to this one to kill Johnson for the first
time in history.
I remember that that was that's the part that I focused on when
I heard that I'm like oh and by the way weren't the two of the
five cops killed more than a black?
I'm not sure. I think you're just going by memory. I'm just
going by man. That was in I think the black cops were killed
in Baton Rouge but maybe I'm not for sure. But I want to that
last clip. I want to pick it apart piece by piece. Okay,
first of all, you have a shooter he hit 14 People 12 of them
being cops. That means he had to be a crack shot all those people
running around and that all that melee and chaos and you can hit
let's just proceed to the man's name is Micah Xavier Johnson
right? Yeah. If you shorten that up you got mica X.
Nice. That's like current code.
Now I'm just saying well, that's what registered with me because
when you hide when you abbreviate the middle name,
Micah X. Yeah,
you got my eggs. Wait, that's great. It leaves it to himself.
And then you have this. One day ago you said he killed himself
was self inflicted gunshot wound. How'd you get that wrong?
I don't understand how that one piece?
Well, I mean, I'm not surprised that the media gets it wrong.
The question is, where did they get the report from? Was it from
the from the official police
and previous clips, they had the briefing of the police officer.
So it's like, you can ask them the question. How did he How did
he die?
Smells cover up.
They use one pound a C four on a robot. Oh, yeah. A pound to blow
this manned up
upon. Make sure he wasn't recognizable. That's for sure.
As
Jay strain is hella strange. He's like, you see for first
time in history. Yeah. They said on a robot. After the
communication break, you haven't corner because I mean, they
hadn't cornered. I mean, he couldn't get out. After an hour,
you just say okay, um, yeah, sending the robot. What? Yeah,
that doesn't make any sense.
And I don't I don't I have never heard of the robot being used
since actually, you I
have not either. We've had many standoffs with shooters. Effort
per day. I mean, we had some that lasts for days, even. And
they don't send the robot in. But as this case starts to
unravel, we get even more details about the gunman.
freelance reporter Steve Futterman is in Dallas, and he
joins me now live. So Steve, what do we know about the
suspects that was killed?
Well, his name is Micah Johnson 25 years old from the Dallas
area. In fact, he celebrated his 25th birthday this past weekend.
We have now learned a bit more about him. He was in the army
for a number of years, apparently spent some time
either in Afghanistan or Iraq. But the very interesting thing
we've learned in the past hour from from law enforcement
sources is what he was armed with. He had an assault rifle, a
semi automatic assault rifle. He had a handgun, and apparently
was dressed in body armor, which makes everyone believed he knew
exactly what he was going to do when he came to the protests
last night.
Yeah, it's kind of distressing to hear all this again.
So for the listeners out there, I told you remember that
Military Connection Yes. Now we have the our think rockin was
the other guy's name the FBI. He was it was rain. Yeah, they put
it out there all he's military, former military for military.
Now we have mica X Johnson, former military.
You know, again, if we were in the meeting, you'd be like, Hey,
man, let's come up with a cool name for this cat. Alright, so
I'm like Malcolm X. Alright, Mike X. Yeah, but we got to make
sure everyone always really black Johnson. All right. That's
it, man. Perfect. We're good to go.
It writes itself. It does. It really does. So it's like okay,
now we have this guy. He's moving around body armor,
assault rifle, two pistols. He's making these difficult shots.
Cops are taking triangulation, the triangulation. Oh, and one
thing I meant, Miss that the cop said in a previous clip his
manifesto. I mean, after all,
did he ever did he ever publish one? Did he republish a
manifesto?
Well, his manifesto was more of his tactical how he was going to
do it. But they just relabeled it as a manifesto said,
Well, of course that's what you do. That's what you do. It's
just
all too convenient. And like, I'm thinking, and this is 2017.
So I'm saying this thing with the in a mind. And it's like,
hey, what, what is going on here? Like, who is this guy?
His manifesto was a very angry rant against white people.
That's it. So we have and there was one drop by that last
supporter or may last reporter. He didn't use the term mica X
Johnson. Michael, we get on cold. You know, if you don't
call it a Philly, you have to put the X in there.
Otherwise, people might think you're not a part of it. Right.
Which could be true for that guy.
Yeah, if I can say that. Well, we all we know. All the shooters
always get 3d printed, which I don't know who came up with that
anyway, but always named his race fit perfectly. Yeah. And so
now we have a shooter that's blown up with one pound of sea
for at the hour standoff. Yes. And he's former military. Yep.
And now he
got to connect and we got to connect a mo. Well, let's
go and connect him to an atom.
We're getting a closer look at his motive and what
investigators found inside his home. Authorities say this is
the deadly sniper Micah Xavier Johnson, a former military man
who went hunting for police, specifically white officers,
there appears to have been one gunman, with no known links to
or inspiration from any international terrorist
organization.
Law enforcement sources tell ABC News Johnson was armed for his
shooting spree with an assault rifle and two handguns
been a tale of cowardice. By and assess Johnson served
in the Army Reserve from 2009 until 2015. Doing a tour in
Afghanistan. According to police, his Facebook page
reveals some of that rage against police. He liked a page
which said, quote, kill everything blue that moves
overnight police search Johnson is home in Mesquite, Texas
police say they found bomb making materials ballistic
vests, rifles, ammunition and a personal journal of combat
tactics was
a well planned, well thought out. Evil tragedy,
Michael Johnson sister took to Facebook writing quote, the news
will say what they think but those who knew him know this
wasn't like him.
They see the manifesto was now turned into a notebook. Yeah,
that's interesting. They've screwed up on that report.
And that's the connectivity that we're talking about. So now you
have this guy that went and done this violent act independently
if you want to believe the the media narrative, but the fact
that he likes somebody on Facebook, yeah. Oh, that just
proves it. Let's start let's start digging into who he likes
on social media. And that's now we can brute roll out this term.
Bi E. And by guilty by association. Those people are
put on a list. Yes, you see, you see and then
who they follow become Bie Yes, of course. That's how it works.
Yeah. Well, especially for the FBI who clearly creating work
for themselves. Hmm.
And like I said, as long as you have the and we saw this with
the war on drugs, and everything is just like you need just you
need bodies to put in front of the camera. They say you're
doing your job and nothing really gets fixed. But we've
seen We've seen this all before. But there was one interesting
fact that it was not reported as much as you think it would. But
the shooter left behind a message.
Thanks that this killer obviously had some delusion.
There was quite a bit of rambling in the journal. That's
hard to decipher. I can just add at the scene where he was
killed. There was a pause he wrote some lettering and blood
on the walls. Which leads us to believe he was wounded on the
way up the stairwell on the second floor of the El Centro
building and where we detonated the device to end the standoff
there there was more lettering written in his own blood. What
did he write we are we are trying to decipher that but he
wrote the letters are B are being in we don't RV Yes. So
we're trying to figure out through looking at things in his
home what those initials mean. But we haven't determined that
yet.
Yes, I remember that RB RB was that the only thing I thought
there was more that he had written?
No that was that was all that they reported that he read wrote
and blood and two separate places. RB. So I started doing
the digging like what what is rb mean? I can't know not know what
this means. So they had some theories. One of the less agreed
upon theories is he wrote RB for robot mom.
Yes. Yeah. Remember that one? Yep. Which is fair.
I mean, that's fair. But the most widely reported by USA
Today heavy Daily Mail and other groups. It stood for our B, G,
now also known as red, black and green.
He just didn't he didn't finish the G because then he got blowed
up.
And in two places. How do you make that stretch? It's like RB
or don't have time to write the G that you read somewhere else.
But these news agencies wrote Oh, yeah, it's the for our red,
black, black and green, which is the Pan African pan Africanist
colors. So now if you have any association to red, black, black
and green
Hello, Jamaica. Yeah.
You know your website if you have read Like and green or
anything with those colors, now you get knocked into the group.
This is all too convenient. Wow. And like I said these are heavy
hitting news agency theory that reported is almost as fat which
didn't make any sense. He would at least would have finished one
of them as RBG best what he meant when he just put RB in two
separate places and nests and it kind of, as you know, with any
narrative that they roll out, it just sticks of course and so it
was it was a it was red, black and green cheese. So that wraps
up the Dallas, Dallas shooting. And right 10 days later, we have
this event
we want to get to the tragedy. in Baton Rouge three police
officers killed at a deadly assault three more injured after
a gunman attacked them at a busy intersection. Terrified
witnesses hiding in the car capturing the ambush on cell
phone video before the shooter was taken down. Amy Robach on
the scene for us there in Louisiana with the latest. Good
morning Amy.
That's right. Good morning Robin and the headline of advocate
here in Baton Rouge says that all senseless the carnage began
here behind me after police officers responded to a 911 call
about a suspicious looking man carrying guns. When those
battens officers arrived they were targeted shot and three of
them killed.
At 840 For the first shots rang out. Just two moments earlier
Baton Rouge Police scrambled to this busy intersection after
receiving a 911 call about a man dressed all in black armed with
a rifle and a semi automatic pistol when officers arrived the
suspect 29 year old former Marine Gavin long began to fire
another Marine go figure
arm in the same fashion. Yep. As as Mike X Johnson, a assault
rifle and a handgun.
Yeah
10 days later. He drove out from St. Louis to Baton Rouge. He
wasn't even originally from Baton Rouge, right but Rouge was
the hotbed because Alton Sterling shooting Yeah, it's
strike strike is strange, I tell you.
No, no, it is and I mean, I was focused on other things. I
remember I was you know, it's like, there's so much was
exploding around this. It was and we were just figuring out
that we really only figured out in with the Louisiana stuff that
you know, black lives matter was a Soros outfit and you know the
I mean right down to the founder of BLM living in a Soros house
you know, that's the stuff I was looking at then didn't even look
at this is very interesting. Why like it.
So we have two people with the intent and the thing throughout
American history. We haven't had that many black militant black
radical shootings of cops. Well, there hasn't been
that many cops killed since 911. That was a humongous No I mean,
I was five eight it was a big number.
And then within two days maintain Excuse me 10 days you
have two shooters armed in the same fashion doing highly
tactical shootings of police officers was similar bad there
were similar backgrounds, ex military, the army the same
fashion and they have a quote unquote pro black ideology.
Now let me guess was this What was his name? Gavin long Gavin
long. Did he like some bad groups on Facebook? I'm just
guessing. Ah,
we're gonna get there but let's get into his ex marine
background.
The suspect who fatally shot three officers in Baton Rouge on
Sunday before being killed by police has been identified as a
former Marine Sergeant Gavin long a 29 year old African
American man was according to a person briefed on the
investigation from Kansas City and affiliated with an anti
government group. This image was published on a Twitter account
linked to a website called Convos with Cosmo dot club, a
site registered by a person identified as Gavin long from
Kansas City. In a tweet posted on Sunday, it reads just because
you wake up every morning doesn't mean that you're living.
And just because you shed your physical body doesn't mean that
you're dead. Sunday shootings happened at a shopping center
not far from the Baton Rouge Police Headquarters. Apparently
officers saw a man carrying a rifle and dressed all in black
standing behind a beauty supply store.
We do not have a pony on the shooter. He is not in fight.
Cyber Police now believe the gunman lured the officers there
to ambush them. Sunday shooting comes just two weeks after
police in Baton Rouge shot and killed black man, Alton
Sterling, an incident that led to protests in the city. It also
follows another police shooting in Dallas last week, where five
officers were killed and nearly a dozen injured.
Yeah, remember, it was like an ambush situations coming back to
me now.
And that's the term that was used in both cases. Ambush
ambush. Yeah. And they say he was linked to a anti government
group. I think this is a term they use what they didn't
specify that was a majority white, quote unquote, anti
government group, because that's the one that I'm Karen Bass
refer to and heroclip. But they just left it as is as well. And
if you just do the mental jump, oh, I had to be a black group he
was associated with, you know, we have this.
Of course, we're trained to think this now. Yeah.
And you asked the previous question his connection to his
activity online. Yeah.
Was he liking anything anything bad on face bag, where he left
online trail,
a trail putting it more on the gunman. Now a military veteran
who posted threatening videos may have had ties to militant
groups. Maybe he's chief investigative correspondent
Brian Ross has the latest Convos with
Cosmo that's me. Using the pseudonym Cosmo, the shooter
Gavin Eugene long posted this video online. The day after the
five police officers in Dallas were shot and killed. It's
a time for peace. But it's a time for war. And most of the
times when you want peace, you gotta go to war.
Overnight police and the FBI were at the home of long in
Kansas City, Missouri, where neighbors described him as a
quiet man divorced with children. government document
showed long was a military veteran who served five years in
the Marines, including tours in Japan and Iraq. And police say
the Sunday Morning Ambush showed signs of being
well planned. Wow, that's when you put it all together like
that. It's very interesting. Very, very interesting. I like
that a lot. That's good.
And I have a theory. All right. I have a theory. But first, we
like people buy new money.
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so I made the on the big stack where it was brand new in that I
like brand new money. I just I don't want any money around me.
It's not. I don't want to have a new one than a brand than an old
20. That's kind of dumb. But there's something about new
money that excites you. You like $100 bills. owe money to oh,
that most beautiful thing on earth is $100 Bill, I haven't
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So before we went to the donation segment, I say I have a
theory Yes. Manchurian Candidate
How much do you actually know about your friend I served under
him he was a good man that's
what the neighbors always say about serial killers.
Somebody put an implant inside me I got a good for the people
wanting you to you need to get open not crazy Shah
Raymond This is Jamie Johnson of Manchurian global for strong
supporters
to flick the switch we can adjust character change
personality these are not supposed to exist Raymond
Prentice show listen
this is a cool this is rich people on the bad science to put
sleeper in the White House
among the shareholders in Manchurian global you would find
former presidents opposed Kings I get it they're big they're
huge. You bring me rumors and conjecture I started with
nightmares rumors conjectures that's a giant leap forward.
Somebody got into our heads neurons got got got exposed and
circuits got wide. I
think you should leave I gotta find out what's going to happen
where it's gonna happen.
It's delusional.
To watch where you
go. You swore to me that this was failsafe no leaks no
glitches. I will do whatever is necessary to protect my son's
we're going to stop this and take
them out. They factored you in captain, do you remember me?
Wow. Okay, so I haven't seen both the Frank Sinatra version,
which is no way is cool when it comes to sound effects. Den.
This is a Denzel Washington version. I guess. I don't know
of any other one. Yeah,
yes. 2004. The trailer from the previous version didn't have any
sound sounded
Oh, neither did the movie. Movie was not that great. I mean from
by today's technical standards, but it was of course the
brainwashing of a vet. A former marine or military?
Yeah, just say military former soldiers. Yeah. Brainwash, but
by who?
In the movie? Yes.
But what's operation? Yes, yeah. Oh, that's
Manchurian Corporation. Correct? Yes, I remember now. Yes.
So now this is where this is where I reach Oh, you call it a
reach. But I have receipts. So I don't even give a damn they're
gonna fire it up. But he doesn't need No, not yet. Okay. Well, I
did see here is in the movie. You have a corporation made up
of former President billionaires. So I'm not looking
at the government here on this. We're going into 2016 election.
We see George Soros has pumped billions of dollars into this
whole Black Lives Matter movement. Yes. What's to say?
They're not organizations or factions out there that will go
the next step to trigger individuals which these two will
be perfect. candidates you have hyper, hyper angry anger.
They're very
Oh, yeah. Trump traumatized by war and has all the right
elements. Sure.
Yeah. They have the functionality of being former
soldiers. I mean, for long periods of time, I think one was
like five years, almost four years. You can easily build a
profile online on these two. You can say that, no, this, this is
the type of person we want to push over the edge. Now, this is
the point where everybody's saying, Come on Mo.
No, I'm not liking it. I like where this is going.
So what I did was, I went and found Mr. Gavin's Long's first
YouTube video.
First off self preservation. The first law nature is the same
thing. Same way as when America, they put you on a mainstream,
they put on the mainstream media that has a new tyrant, a new
enemy, and a go and physically do an assault on that country is
the same thing. And it's the same way how when I was in the
Marines, I went and fought, you know, foot foot foot United
States. Because it was a so called enemy. So it's no other
it's not different from someone fighting against you and
assaulting you and you protecting yourself is the same
way. There's nothing wrong with it. You got the right to defend
yourself at any moment. If someone is assaulting you, and
gang stalking is an assault on you physically, mentally,
spiritually, emotionally and psychologically. So you got a
right to defend yourself at any moment. You got a right to
preserve Yes. To preserve your life at any moment you choose,
and you're gonna be right.
Okay, so he's talking about sub being psychologically abused.
Gavin long, said he was a victim of gang stalking. Yeah. Which
is, as he said in the clip is psychological abuse. Did you
hear this reported anywhere?
No, of course, not Mo. I didn't even I thought they would have
deleted his YouTube channel by now. That's crazy. I'm
amazed I found this.
Interesting. That is very interesting.
And what I find it even more interesting is if I'm wanting to
build a case against Gavin long, right? I'm gonna say, this guy's
crazy. Because he said he was gangster and gang stalking is
clearly show that he's not real. And he shows signs of mental
illness. I'll say. Why did they take that angle? It was no, I
mean, because you can easily make that case. And it's like,
one plus one is two. He was a quote unquote. He thought he was
being gang stalked, but that was signs of mental illness, which
led to him doing what he did wrap it up a nice bow and it's
over here. Well, we
can't have that. That's not what that's not.
Right. Well, what what why would he think he was Gangstar? Let's
just take him for his word. Okay, let's get into the second
YouTube clip.
I follow nature, I'm in tune with nature. Nowhere in nature,
you go see a goddamn lion. Protest And when a gang of
hyenas come to attack his ass, he will be peaceful protests and
holding up signs, you're not going to see it in nature
anywhere. Because self preservation is the first law of
nature. Every animal in nature, I know human beings are not
animals. But you have the right to preserve yourself. You can
choose to or you can you don't have to fight back. That's
that's the difference between human beings and animals. You
have the choice, you see. But if you choose to fight back, there
are no consequences. So that's the difference. So a lot of
teachers don't even know that harassment is a felony. Stalking
with harassment is a damn felony. That's a felony charge.
You definitely have the right to defend yourself. And if someone
is and you know, gang stalking is they're trying to tempt you.
They're trying to make you attempt suicide. That's
attempted murder. If someone is trying to tempt you to force to
force you into suicide, isn't that attempted murder? Come on
now. Let's open our eyes get it together a defend yourself at
all costs. Stand in your righteousness die in your
righteousness period.
Wow. You know, June 10 2016. So this is before before all this?
Yes, this is his very first YouTube video, right but he's
where he leaves off with
but I'm saying I'm seeing an article up from June 10 2016,
New York Times about a guy who complained that he was being
gang stalked, and he uses the term T eyes, which I just heard
in. Yes, in this video, and that stands for targeted individual.
This is some paranoid stuff, man. Now, of course, it may be
true, but this is people who believe that you're walking
around and people bump into you on purpose, and they're
targeting you and they're harassing you, and you're a TI a
targeted individual. And there's groups of people who feel that
they are also targeted individuals by this gang
stalking.
And this is so widespread and just this this add on to the
point you made. You remember the Naval Shipyard?
Yes, yeah, that was another crazy one.
He was saying they were using Lova low frequency voices in his
head. Right? He changed the hotel room three times. And he
even took and carved on his shotgun. It was a low energy
something weapon. So I mean, we say these people, they're saying
something. And not like I said, I either he's mentally ill,
which will explain why he did what he did. Or he's actually a
TI, which explains why he did what he did when we