FAQs with Adam curry for February 29 2020. This is
episode number 27. Amo.
I know Adam,
I'm doing good man and apologies to every buddy who's been
listening. And that includes all the producers for being a few
days late this week. We just
ran into some real life issues, but we're back on track. Yeah.
Now. I'm not quite sure we're going to do next week because I
leave for Los Angeles for a couple of days do the Rogen show
on Monday, so I won't be back until Wednesday. So it may not
be until Friday or Saturday next week until we do it again. Okay,
it
will be on the same cycle it
looks like so Yeah, something like that. It'll shift but you
know, we're still sticking with I want to and how about it we
get to do it on on Leap Day.
No, not Leap Day. Isn't today is Black History bonus?
I should have known Yes. This is a special Black History Month.
Yes. Black we get.
We get one. One more. almost a month. One more day closer to
moving on up mo Alma. One of these days you guys will get a
31 day month. I'm telling you just stick with it.
Maybe Maybe.
All right. Lots of clips. lots lots to get to today. Very
excited to hear we're going to do and for that. Of course we
need to roll out the big wheel of clips. Let's see what the
topic will be. We're what are we going to get the Oh, it's
slowing down and what will we get?
What happened to mini Mike? Where's he many Mike has spent a
fortune. There is no buddy I'd rather run again. Then Little
Mike, huh? We're going on political today? I like it. Yes.
Okay.
My Bloomberg, you asked some questions about my Bloomberg on
the last show.
Yeah, if he was a viable candidate for for a DDoS.
Right. So I found something that I'm going to cover that but I
found something even more interesting is the billionaire
beef between Donald Trump and Michael Bloomberg.
Yes, not discussed very much. The mainstream doesn't like to
show this because that would discredit their possible white
knight. So I'm glad you picked some of
this up. So in this show, what we're going to do is compare and
contrast the two against each other and how the media covers
covers the two in different ways. So I guess we'll just jump
right in with Trump and Bloomberg used to be friends
past President Trump attacks. The Democrats battling fake them
out in November. He's increasingly targeting a fellow
billionaire in New York. former New York Mayor Michael
Bloomberg,
and the former mayor is fighting right back soon as Brian Todd is
here with more of Brian Trump and Bloomberg. They share a very
long history they do share a long history with as Titanic
power players in New York, Donald Trump and Michael
Bloomberg at various times partnered on different projects,
they engaged socially and praise each other for what each had
done for the city. But they split politically when Trump
declared for president and tonight it's clear that Donald
Trump sees Michael Bloomberg as a threat. Lucky's a lightweight,
the way they talk about each other now, you'd think they've
been enemies
for life. I am not afraid of Donald Trump.
But back in New York back in the day, a different dynamic.
And I have to say you have been a great American. You really
have I mean, this guy is.
That was in October 2013. Then New York City Mayor Michael
Bloomberg and Donald Trump lavished praise on each other,
after Trump helped Bloomberg convert a trash dump in the
Bronx into a high end golf course.
But if there's anybody that has changed this city, it is Donald
Trump, he really has done an amazing thing. And this is
another part of it, Donald, thank you for your confidence.
Analysts say that partnership actually could have been the
genesis of their falling out because in a 2016 interview with
Wolf Blitzer Trump took all the credit for the project.
They took it over and got it knocked up in one year and now
it's a tremendous success. Michael asked me if I'd get
involved in it. Bloomberg
thought that was an exaggeration. His former aides
thought that was an exaggeration. And it's sort of
split between them.
Oh, man. Oh, don't tell me this is this is just a cockfight.
Being a billion dollar one, so maybe it was a legend, a
billionaire. So, right. You
never know if you listen to
the mainstream media, but so what really intrigued me about
this is you have two people that used to be friends. We're not
friends anymore, or were they ever friend were they just using
each other? For what But they could offer each other. So I
think this will be a great matchup
in light of this Bloomberg did a CNN town hall the other day,
which I watched, and, you know, well, I'm just gonna withhold
judgment. Because I, I learned a couple things I didn't know. And
I just saw some things that I hadn't realized earlier. So I'm
very curious to see where you take us in this.
Okay, so I mean, we can just jump into part two.
But before then Donald Trump and Michael Bloomberg appeared to
get along, or at least found each other useful. Trump back
Bloomberg effort to run for a third term as New York's mayor.
They golf together, Bloomberg appeared on Trump's NBC show The
Apprentice, and their daughters appeared in an HBO documentary
called born rich. But analysts say in the real world of New
York Business and philanthropy.
In that world, it was Bloomberg who was the star and it was
Trump who was the one who was always looking for acceptance
and rarely getting it. During all of his life, Donald Trump
has longed for the approval of the New York establishment. Mike
Bloomberg was the New York establishment now
the two are being compared and contrasted under a microscope.
Yeah, that's interesting. I've mentioned many times on no
agenda show that I know this type of guy, this type of guy
that Trump is, who is I've been to a lot of these types of
parties, not so much in New York, but it's the same
everywhere in the world. And you've got the elites, you know,
the old money, the, you know, even show business isn't really
considered part of their part of their circle, but they let the
people in, you know, show business because they're pretty,
and they get attention and they can hang out with him and other
rich people, even if they don't like it and be like, okay, you
know, we'll we'll let them hang out with us. But I don't know if
Trump really wanted that acceptance, most of these guys
that I know. And also some women absolutely crave that acceptance
in those circles, and usually don't get it. So that's just a
personal experience.
And what I find interesting is, Trump came from a affluent
background, you know, rich father, and Bloomberg didn't,
but Bloomberg is more accepted. Yeah, yes. The elites and
you also have to understand the difference. Having lived there
the difference between Manhattan and Queens? I mean, you might as
well have a passport checkpoint, when it comes to how it goes to
area does boroughs are perceived certainly by each other.
Okay, interesting. So, I guess we'll just jump right into on
clip three,
both switched political parties repeatedly, and were unexpected
winners in their biggest elections, and both became
billionaires. Although on the Forbes list of the wealthiest
Americans at the end of last year, Michael Bloomberg ranked
eighth was $53.4 billion, while Trump ranked 275th with 3.1
billion.
They both named their businesses after themselves. They're both
very wealthy people. But Bloomberg came from a more
working class background and Donald Trump, of course, heard a
lot of money from his father to run, run his business. He's
going forward, how nasty and also Arsenal were another battle
becomes,
I think in a head to head battle, Mike Bloomberg and
Donald Trump will be nastier than anything we've seen in
politics, perhaps in 100 years. These these are two people who
are not afraid to fight, and they're not afraid to fight in a
very personal way. No,
it's a great time to be alive.
And this is exactly why I want to see this matchup Yeah, of
course, it would be a beauty. Bernie is Trump will be good
too. But this one right here will be great because they will
let the words fly. And I just want to see if you noticed the
media threw some shade at Trump by saying oh, he was number 250
something on the list of billionaires. Is this real? This
real billionaire fake beard and everything.
And they just gonna say these lists are such horse crap. I've
been on these lists back when I actually had a lot of money. And
they would wild in my case wildly overestimate. Oh, curry.
Yeah, he's got probably 200 and 200 million. That's right.
That's why I'm doing podcasts now, everybody. So these lists
are most of the people on the list are usually angry because
their number isn't right. The ranking. I'm not sure how that
plays into people. I think most people just like, oh, yeah, I'm
on the list. Now. It's kind of cool. But now who knows what the
accuracy is.
And the media really wants his matchup because of the amount of
money that was be spent. I know Trump is sitting on a couple of
maybe billion Oh yeah, his war chest in. I mean, Bloomberg has
well i I'm hurt up to $53 billion. So dropping a couple
billion dollars out of his own pocket won't be anything so the
media really wants this matchup and they're pushing it.
And just just like the although I really think the Bernie Trump
matchup would be what we need because we need to know are we
socialists, are we capitalist which direction do we want to go
in, but knowing whether you can buy your way into the
presidency, which is clearly what Bloomberg has been doing,
it's also important to know.
It'll be interesting to see how it goes either way. But what we
want to see here, what I want to do today with what the show is,
compare and contrast some of the views, or
whatever. Basically, basically, what we're gonna do here is
we're doing all of the color commentary before the thriller
in Manila is that this is, so if it doesn't happen, okay, but
this would be the preamble to this. We are getting ready for
the big pay per view event, ladies and gentlemen. And boy,
these two guys, it would make sense if you had to pay to view
it. But this is what's going on.
And with that said, we have Trump ripping through dems.
And now they have a new member of the crew, mini Mike. Minimum.
No boxes, we call him no boxes. And I hear he's getting pounded
tonight. You know, he's in a debate. pounding him. He spent
$500 million so far. And I think he has 15 points. It just came
out he fake news. How many points does he have right now?
50. They won't tell you the truth. They won't tell you the
truth. They just came out with a poll a little while ago. Mini
Mike was at 15. And crazy. Bernie was at 31. That's a lot.
And many Mike just spent $500 million.
A lot of money.
So we got great nicknames here. We got many Mike. Yeah. No,
no boxes. Yeah,
this is why I came.
I'm so down with it Mo.
And we have this is we're a 2020. And this is actual
presidential election. This, this is where we're at. We have
two billionaires firing tweets back and forth to each other.
Yeah, it minus the tweets. It's kind of like Russia.
So let's listen to the Bloomberg fire back.
CNN reports Bloomberg has already spent
more than 350 $50 million of his own money. He has a reported net
worth of $60 billion left to play around with one of the
takeaways here and there's a bunch is the shift and black
support among the top three candidates. Biden is losing that
support. While both Sanders and Bloomberg are trending up.
Keep in mind this was a Republican mayor, in a very
democratic city, a Republican mayor who was a Rudy Giuliani
ally, who had gotten into some trouble because his policing
policy stop and frisk had been ruled unconstitutional. How did
he get endorsements from key Democrats in his New York City
races? Well, one thing he would do is that he would donate very
generously to keep people you know, to nonprofits, or maybe a
church group that someone who led the church was very
influential. So he was able to curry favor with people who can
then give him very meaningful endorsements. Furthermore, he
could also silence critics after he had transferred his his voter
ID from Republican to independent. The Republican
Party never attacked him after that, for the rest of his
mayoral teen was sort of curious. But then you look at
those financial filings and you see he was giving them millions
of dollars. You've been able to use his money to both curry
support but also silence dissent.
I think Mike has the experience. I think that he has the right
values. I think he has the capability to take on what is
just an incredible machine, which is going to be the Trump
reelection campaign.
Yes, I hereby issue a cease and desist on the term currying
favor. I'm getting a little annoyed by it.
So Bloomberg, is mysteriously rising. He's rising into
popularity with the black black vote or you know, according to
the according to the pose, which the media do the polls, and he
has a big old pile of billions to spread around so of course
they're going to keep them around. out and just put an
earmark in one thing they brought up in this clip that
stop and frisk, because we're going to revisit that good right
after we listen to fire back to.
Well, this morning he took us attacks Twitter, the President
did posting his altered image of the man he's dubbed mini Mike
and calling him a loser who has money but can't debate and a
five foot four inch mass of dead energy. Bloomberg quickly hit
back swinging at Trump. We know many of the same people in New
York behind your back. They laugh at you and call you a
carnival barking clown. They know you inherited a fortune and
squandered it with stupid deals and incompetence.
That that is even better. As a WWE preview. This is good. So
what Trump Trump is coming at Mike being a petite man. And I
think it gets under Bloomberg skin. But Bloomberg went real
low with by saying, I know the people that we both hang out
with the same people they think you're a clown. Yeah. That gets
under Trump's,
what do you think? Do you think it does?
I think deep down. Sharp is the Joker because they he wasn't
allowed to be Batman.
Oh, I like that. I'm like that. Yeah,
he he wanted to be Bruce Wayne. And you know, he wanted to be
that, you know, the, you know, that hero type. But he just is
the class thing. Like, I mean, you brought it up yourself with
the queens and I never looked at it as the borough, the borough
lands. But
yeah. I mean, it's just the same as New York and New Jersey. I
mean, we get along, but we're really different people.
And there's a reason for that. And we're gonna, we're doing a
lot of foreshadowing here. But as I promised, we're gonna get
back to the stop and frisk. Topic and how Trump viewed it in
the 2016 election. And
when it comes to stop and frisk, you know, you're talking about
taking guns away while I'm talking about taking guns away
from gangs and people that use them. And I don't think I really
don't think you disagree with me on this. If you want to know the
truth. I think maybe there's a political reason why you can't
say it. But I really don't believe in New York City. Stop
and Frisk. We had 2200 murders, and stop and frisk brought it
down to 500. Murders, 500, murders, a lot of murders. Hard
to believe 500 is like supposed to be good. But we went from
2200 to 500. And it was continued on by Mayor Bloomberg.
And it was terminated by current mayor, but stop and fit for us
had a tremendous impact on the safety of New York City.
Tremendous beyond belief. So when you say it has no impact,
it really did. It had a very, very big impact.
How old was this clip? Do you know that was from 2016 to 2016?
This was in 2016. debate against Hillary Clinton. And he was
telling me oh, you even you even might agree with it. But for
political reasons, you can't say that. So I want to make it clear
that Trump is all for stop and frisk, when it comes to find out
that up until now 2019. Bloomberg was also a fan of stop
and frisk. And a journalist journalist is supposed to
Bloomberg is racist. That's the hashtag that's trending on
Twitter. Since audio of remarks made by the 2020 Democratic
presidential hopeful the former New York City Mayor Michael
Bloomberg surfaced earlier this week. In the clip from the 2015
Aspen Institute, Bloomberg is heard defending the New York
City Police Department's controversial stop and frisk
policies, saying quote 95% of murders murdered victims fit one
MO You can just take the description Xerox it pass it out
to all the cops, listen closely.
Murder and murder they are male minorities.
That's Mike Bloomberg saying quote, they are male minority 16
to 25. That's true in New York. That's true in virtually every
city. He went on to say, quote, and the way you get the guns out
of the kid's hands is to throw them up against the walls and
frisk them. Bloomberg issued a statement Tuesday saying quote,
I inherited the police practice of stop and frisk. And as part
of our effort to stop gun violence, it was overused by the
time I left office, I cut it back by 95%. But I should have
done it faster and sooner. I regret that and I have
apologized, unquote.
Yeah, I have some actual numbers on that. don't know if it's
appropriate at this point in your presentation.
I mean, you could share.
This started under Giuliani and it was always called, and I
think it still officially is called Stop question and frisk.
And this all came out in, in a lawsuit, and I believe it was
ultimately the Supreme Court who said it was my worry with these
things, his constitutionality. First, they ran into was not
unconstitutional. But the way it was implemented, could have been
deemed unconstitutional. There's no real question of race in this
case, just leaving that clip aside. But when it started, then
I believe they stopped 200,000 people no 100,000 people, and
50,000 had some form of weapon or a prior conviction or a
warrant, etc. And what in under Bloomberg, that went up to
650,000 people, but the amount of of people who actually were
arrested because of the stop question and frisk only went up
marginally. So about 10%. So went up about from 50 to 65.
Now, the, the what you need to factor into that is, and you
don't know exactly if that's because of the more that he did
or not, is that indeed the murder rate did have under
Bloomberg versus Giuliani. And as far as I know, the practice
is still in place today, in and in many other cities in the
United States.
And you're exactly right with those numbers. But when you look
at it, and how people view Trump and his view on stop, and freeze
versus Bloomberg is like night and day, if they give him a
path, like like, they just say, he apologizes, like you're gonna
hear later, how people just kind of write it off and accept his
apology. But let's get in. Let's actually listen to the
journalist who was supposed to Bloomberg.
But Bloomberg did not just inherit stop and frisk. During
his tenure as mayor. The use of the practice increased seven
fold. During his time in office, the New York Police recorded
over 5 million stop and frisk, the vast majority of those stops
were black and Latino. As mayor of New York, Bloomberg, long
defended stop and frisk. This is Bloomberg speaking during a 2013
interview on wor radio.
They just keep saying, Oh, it's a disproportionate percentage of
a particular ethnic group. That may be but it's not a
disproportionate percentage of those who witnesses and victims
describe as committing or in that case, incidentally, I think
we disproportionately stop whites too much. And minorities
too little.
In fact, 1000s of people marched against stop and frisk during
his three terms in office, Bloomberg defended stop and
frisk as recently as 2019. Only apologizing for the practice
publicly in November, shortly after entering the presidential
race.
Well, yeah, yeah, I can. What is that?
It's see, I can see where well, here's how his and Bloomberg, by
the way doesn't give a shit about anybody. I'm pretty
convinced of it. He's on a whole different plane, a whole
different plane. But he's being in his mind pragmatic. And he's
saying, Well, here's the statistics that we see. Now, of
course, if you're doing stop and frisk in neighborhood where it's
predominantly darker colored skin, because that's really what
we're talking about here. And that's not just a Doss, it's
Latinos, it's all it's all different kinds of darker skin.
That's what I'm saying. Well, that's where they live, if
that's where you're stopping and frisking. I can see how those
numbers pan out. But you're really identifying something we
already knew you're identifying that there's a lot of black on
black crime and cities as a lot of crime in, in poor
neighborhoods. I think personally, in a 10 year tenure,
instead of increasing, you're putting a bandaid on the
problem. And the thinking is, well, if you know you can get
stopped, I mean, thrown against the wall, then you're probably
not going to bring your gun with you when you go out into the
street. Okay, right. But there's other ways to solve this
problem. And I think the lack of imagination is what bothers me
the most.
And it's that Bloomberg is a walking talking algorithm. If
you listen to what he said, he was like, Oh, well, if you just
look at the numbers, were harassing white people too much.
When you harass other people, that doesn't
play that doesn't play very well. For me, algo perspective,
I understand what he's saying. But, again, it's egregious that
he's saying this. And I think this is really this is the
racial issue right here, instead of saying, oh, you know, why
don't we turn around and try some other things to eradicate
poverty in these neighborhoods?
Now, let me be hypothetical for a minute. Let's say, you know,
white guys do a majority of the white collar crime. So we're
just going to break into your financial records without a
warrant, ya know, and poke around and see what we find. And
we're going to target, you know, affluent white men, because
that's who is committing a lot of these crimes. How long would
that stand?
Well, if you if you said it that way, it wouldn't stand at all.
Unfortunately, it's true. You forgot one descriptor, though.
If it's conservative white men, they get new get targeted for
that mainly by the IRS, which is a political weapon. So that but
yes, I understand exactly what you're saying. And of course, is
if the SEC was just standing outside of Wall Street, you
know, banks and say, give me your phone. Oh, you know, I
mean,
my analogy works. And you know, how do we go about preventing
this instead of just trying to nail people? So that is the is
the issue with stop and frisk.
But I mean, it's big money, you know, on both sides.
What happened? No, no, no, of course not. Of course not. No.
And, and if you really did that in earnest, then you'd find a
lot of stuff a lot of politicians don't want people to
know.
And the money on the back end, the big money on the back end is
the increase in property value. Yes, because the heavy policing
comes in with the gentrification. Yep, and all.
We're gonna see how all this ties together, but let's get
into clip three.
But for more, we're going to Atlanta, Georgia, where we're
joined by Benjamin Dixon, the host of the Benjamin Dixon show
and podcast, he on Earth and publicize the 2015 audio of
Michael Bloomberg speaking at the Aspen Institute that we just
played for you. Dixon is the co founder of the North star.com,
the revitalized abolitionist newspaper of Frederick Douglass,
it's great to have you with us, Benjamin Dixon, talk about I
mean, it's very clear that the Bloomberg campaign knew that
this was going to drop they knew there was this recording,
however, muffled of his statements at the Aspen
Institute from 2015. And they were ready with a statement,
talk about why you released this, how you found it, and that
and what Bloomberg has said in response.
Yes, thanks for having me, Amy. It was online, it was hiding in
plain sight. I've read several articles about this speech. And
what drew my attention to it was the fact that they were looking
that Bloomberg team actually requested that the video from
the Aspen Institute not be released at the Aspen Institute
acquiesced they did not release the video. But I was hoping to
be able to find at least a an audio clip. And that's exactly
what I found. It had been online for five years, I was able to
isolate it, cut it up and make it a little more audible. And I
felt that it just carried a significant impact that the
words in the article did not I felt like people needed to hear
his voice say these things.
Thank God for podcasters
it took a podcast now we have all these huge news rooms and
they're, you know, it's amazing. Stop and Frisk. I mean, they
Donald Trump anything, they could go find it. Talk to
anybody, but it's a it's on YouTube for five years. And none
of your big publication, you know, publications picked it up,
nor the Trump campaign. I'm sure they didn't want to touch it,
seeing considering his endorsement of it in the past.
Well, Trump has an interesting view on that, and we'll hear
that and click for
and on Tuesday morning, President Trump tweeted, wow,
Bloomberg is a total racist. This was in response to the
video, the audio you released. Wow. Bloomberg is a total
racist. Trump later deleted the post. Interestingly, while
campaigning for president in 2016, Trump called for stop and
frisk to be instituted nationwide.
Right. Right. Yeah. The level of hypocrisy that comes from the
President isn't surprising. But that's really that exemplifies
the weakness that candidates like Michael Bloomberg will have
against Donald Trump. His audience has no problem with the
fact that he is a racist, but he will call someone else a racist.
Michael Bloomberg has put himself in a position where he
has a long standing history of problems in New York City,
particularly with stop and frisk. And so the President will
stand on the debate stage and call him a racist when the rest
of America knows that he's the white supremacist and chief.
So there you go. That's takes a blogger to know that too, I
guess.
So Trump's the white supremacist in chief. Yes, but Bloomberg
just has probably not a white supremacist.
Whereas it was it's one thing for Trump to say, hey, here are
the numbers, look at what happened murder rate went down.
It's a little different to say, hey, you can just copy the
profile and throw them against the wall. I think there's a
little more racist undertones in Bloomberg is a description.
And you inherit it from Jr. Giuliani and you ratchet it up,
you know, 660 600% or something like 500%. Right. So I mean, it
wasn't bad. He's like, Oh, yeah. Hold my beer. Giuliani. Let me
show you how to stop. Yeah. But then it's also hilarious. But
Trump to gaslight and say, Hey, blue bars are racist for
supporting stopping freeze. My mind is this.
Is this. Is this a topic? Is this something that the eight of
us is talking about about this? Or is it your sharp mind which
you have that you pick up on this?
Well, no. Okay, the no vote. Eight is foundational black
native black crowd, though people are saying we're not
going to vote unless we get some something tangible. That crowd
is calling out their hypocrisy from the mainstream media.
The hypocrisy that they're not sure
how they cover one and why you know, whitewash the others.
Sins. Got it. And all Bloomberg has to do is apologize.
Well, yeah, he's Michael Bloomberg. He's got $60 billion
that matters in America.
Well, let's listen to him apologize.
We begin tonight with that stop and frisk apology from New York
City's former Mayor Michael Bloomberg. He made the comments
during a service at a Brooklyn church today. Many are now
saying the apology is quote, long overdue. TV tentative
designs. Hazel Sanchez has the story.
I can't change history. However, today, I want you to know that I
realized back then I was wrong. And I'm sorry.
On Sunday morning, former Mayor Mike Bloomberg stood before the
Christian Cultural Center in Brooklyn, and apologized for the
stop and frisk policy he long supported while he ran New York
City. Now that he's making a run for the White House. Many New
Yorkers are doubting his apology is sincere. Do you think it's
sincere? about trying to get votes. It's real convenient.
That's what it looks like.
I got something important, really wrong. I didn't
understand that back then the full impact that stops were
having on the black and Latino communities. I was totally
focused on saving lives. But as we know, good intentions aren't
good enough.
Man, I hope you have the clip where Bloomberg says, Well, I
have black friends and they tell me that this was no good.
I don't I don't have that clue. But it's amazing. However, I
didn't realize, gee, storing harassing people citizens moving
freely inside of a city? Yeah, I didn't realize that it was gonna
be a problem. Here
it is. Here it is.
And I know a lot of black people that if they were white, it
would have been a lot easier for them.
Something when I was thinking of it, stuff like that, like, Oh, I
know a lot of black people. Well, you didn't know before,
Mike, that you black people didn't say Hey, this is fucked
up, Mike. No.
No. Well, for one reason. Even after his apology, there's
always somebody that willing to get the butter biscuits. Yeah.
Yes, apology to
Brooklyn Borough President and former NYPD officer Eric Adams,
met with Bloomberg today
when my crews I believe sincerely felt as though they
made a grave mistake. years ago in the implementation of stop
and frisk. I accept his apology. I believe that the question now
becomes how do we move forward? What do we do now after that
acknowledgement? Well, who
was this?
That is the president of the Brooklyn Borough police. You
give me the play the first like 10 seconds they'll give his
title again.
Yeah, just want to hear that. Okay.
Brooklyn Borough President and former NYPD officer Eric Adams,
Brooklyn Borough President, okay. Yeah, but
you got $60 billion $50 billion. You, Man, you know how big it
had played is a butter biscuits. I mean, you can you can buy
whoever you want. Yes,
I do, actually.
And notice how quiet everybody really and it's not even. And
when I say butter biscuits, that's not even a racial thing.
Because you notice how MSNBC, CNN, they're kind of like oh,
Yeah, he apologized.
Explain to explain the butter biscuits again. Okay.
So what this is is, is typically used towards black people by
other black people to say when somebody says something No, it's
not true, but it gains them financially or in some cloud or
affluence. They they'll go out and be bought off and the
currency that they're bought off in is butter biscuits. Just the
split just a little bit
it's like Bitcoin only tastier. Right?
Oh, only butter here. So, of course Trump couldn't let this
apology slide by and he had to say it was disingenuous
to say, Mr. President, you took on Michael Bloomberg and Brad
parscale did as well over stop and frisk in 2016. And 2018. You
praised Rudy Giuliani for the stop and frisk program. So
what's different about what Bloomberg said, from what you
believe that? When I looked at it, and I watched him pander
under church and practically beg for forgiveness, I wouldn't have
begged for forgiveness. I mean, he was doing his job at the
time. And then he, when he went up to the church, I thought it
was disgraceful. Do you support that policy? And is it as you
said, in a tweet, to get down crime and to get rid of drugs,
but I think when a man is with stop and frisk his whole life,
and then he decides to go Democrat, and he goes to a
church, and he's practically crying, it looked like hell,
he's practically crying, saying how what a horrible thing he
did. I think it's so disingenuous, you know what I'm
talking about those that was so of lumber. Look, he's a
lightweight, he's a lightweight, you're gonna find that out.
So this is this, I think this is why Trump gets respect for at
least doubling down on what you believe, right? Even though I
don't agree with it. Stopping phrase was a terrible thing. It
was basically my point of view, a form of martial law, because
when you can't move freely in your own community,
that's a problem. Yeah, it's, of course,
that's a huge problem. But we have to understand the black
Boulais was on board with these things with the crime bill with
the stop and frisk, they are on board because they looked at it
like, oh, we need to do something to keep our place.
Because, you know, when we had this all stems from the problem
with the drugs and crack era in the 80s, right, you know, it was
basically go back to 70s, really, with the heroin
epidemic. But I mean, these communities became basically
drug drugs zones and war zones with the with the guns and
drugs.
Are you saying the Boulais would like to have it continue
contained? Is that what I'm hearing you say?
Well, what is how it worked? The citizens would go to the
Boulais. A representative in their community, you know, the
mayor, aldermen, whoever they are, yes.
Eric Adams, yeah, you,
you need to clean the streets up. Let's say this is what say,
you know, my kids can't play. And instead of being Hackman
sophisticated, they just went and said to people like
Bloomberg Giuliani and whoever else, you need to crack down.
They crack down. But the problem is, the police didn't
distinguish between a kid and isn't kid walking down the
street with a hoodie, hoodie, hoodie hoodie on and an actual
criminal, right? It was like, we're just we're just doing it
by the numbers. You know, you look as Giuliani said. I mean,
I'm not Giuliani, but Bloomberg said you could just, you could
Xerox the picture and it meant, you know, it would just like if
you fit the description, if you're black or brown, within
you know, 15 to maybe 30 You are more likely going to be a
criminal. They didn't do any policing from the top down is
taking down the kingpins they always. They Exactly.
No, no other majors identifying the problem. This was this was
the it's the the Belgian screwdriver. You know, it's like
she's bashing away with a screwdriver at the problem.
Right, so let's get back into listen to Trump call Bloomberg
disingenuous.
He's also one of the worst debaters I've ever seen. And his
presence is zero. So he'll spend his three, four or $500 million.
Maybe they will take it away. Frankly, I'd rather run against
Bloomberg than Bernie Sanders. Because Sanders has real
followers, whether you like him or not, whether you agree with
him or not. I happen to think it's terrible what he says. But
he has followers. Bloomberg is buying his way in, but we're
gonna find out what happens We're gonna find out. But when
you watch go back to the church where he apologized for
everything he ever did practically. And he looked
pathetic. Our country doesn't need that kind of leadership.
Yeah, yes.
I too would like to see this Bloomberg, I agree with you,
Trump. I want to see the Bloomberg Trump battle. But just
to give a little context, to what a stop and frisk
interaction will look like, between cops and young men in
those neighborhoods. I felt this documentary called the hunted
and the hated the inside look at the NYPD, NYPD stop and frisk
policy. And that was directed by Ross Tuttle
walking home from my girlfriend's house in a Costco
and passed me a couple of seconds later I heard the call
center around and they just popped out it just jumped out
the car. I decided to record it because I was getting stopped a
lot and I didn't have evidence of copy and disrespectful and so
I'll put the button and record the whole thing
you just got stopped by to black soil. Very suspicious because
I've always written I'm crazy you keep looking back at us
because you always always looking crazy. Oh come to the
blog. Always our job our jobs love it. You keep that as always
like started I just got stopped like two blocks away because you
keep doing that shit. Man. We stopped last time because listen
to me. When you walk in the block, which you put up and you
keep looking back at us like they do that. It was cold smack.
smack me. Don't you see you in the Smash? Yes. No, you asked
me why I'm talking to you. That's why you think you're Oh,
why? Why are you touching me for
man? That's because he's wearing a hoodie.
Yeah, walking out the block with a book bag.
Yeah, and that's
the reason why I played this is this is the Mo Yeah, if you're
brown, brown, I mean any shade of brown. wearing a hoodie and
walking up the block with a book bag?
Yeah, bad you fit the MO very bad.
How many kids go to school like that every day. And I want to I
just want to shed light on this. I understand that something
needs to be done for the crime. But these people are geniuses
Bloomberg is a genius. And the best you can do is just like
harass people.
Well even worse it starts off with the cop saying that you
were looking at us said yeah because you're standing there
menacing and I mean I think anyone knows that if we were
being pulled over I was pulled over just recently and the first
thing I said is like hey man, you got to really ride my ass so
you know if you're pulling me over for speeding I don't know
when I was speeding but I didn't like it and you know I pulled
over into the right hand lane. And it can be intimidating to
anybody of any age. It used to be different but yeah and then
and then to say well it's because you were why you wear
your hoodie that's wrong man so wrong.
So let's let's do the second clip in this interaction
who's holding me is going to pack is going up down? Did you
go into my sweater then that's when that's when he told me keep
my hands on my head so I was like this stole time
want to go to jail? Shut fucking mouth now and I'm getting
arrested for being a fucking mud
in the mud you he decided to take my hair from him and put it
behind my back
Shut your fucking mouth you asked me questions and explore
one point I was in no reason you want somebody to take a break
and what was your father? Got a phone where traffic? Your
traffic?
Don't touch me. Okay, he's
Yeah, yeah, and this key is the son of a cop.
Yeah, traffic copter doesn't count.
Traffic I'm not the same thing.
Wow. How's that work? Well, the things that you were you were
exploring so I think I mean, everything floors. I think he's
like the kid. He's a kid police program. Oh, okay. Exponent
mistake. So I mean I like this guy. This kid is anti cop. It's
just I mean, you've been harassed. I mean, just the
freedom of movement. Man, that's That's wrong. That's wrong. I
just I don't I don't agree with that and the irks me.
It's yeah, the police explorers career oriented program gives
young adults the opportunity to explore a career in law
enforcement by working with local law enforcement agencies.
Do we know what happened to these officers who, who treated
him this way?
I think he filed a complaint against them. But I don't think
I don't know I didn't finish the documentary. I just want to
catch more than interaction. Just so people can hear. You
have a son of a police officer walk into his community. He
would work he wanted obviously explored the potential to be a
police officer himself. And then you want I mean, you call him a
mutt. And you know, what it is what it is, my problem is when
you have these people condemn one side being Trump and give
the other side of path because he apologized and the other guy
was the actual one instituting the policy or ratcheting up the
policy. And that's
real rude and condoning it, you know that there were plenty of
complaints. I mean, this, this was news. I mean, I was in New
York, this was news people knew about this, it was a lot of talk
about it.
And he supported it all the way up to 2019. He doesn't want to
speech came from the hate speech. So it was like just say
you're sorry. It's easy. Alright, so but we're gonna
listen to one of our favorite contributors Miss Carrie Hunter
and Bloomberg stop and frisk problem.
2015 All right. Now, since running, I think Bloomberg
apologized. Do we accept his apology? Go ahead, play his
apology. I was wrong. And I'm sorry. Oh, that's a real
apology. I'm making a juxtaposition because Snoop
didn't apologize anyway. 8668 Petty, and just by doing that,
you know, that method which started under Giuliani, which he
continued with the cops, that's Ray Kelly, put a lot of black
lives in harm, create a lot of trauma. There were more black
boys in particular, black men stopped and fixed in their ex
existed in the city of New York. And there's a lot of black
people in New York, the largest black city city in America. And
yeah, it was painful. Does the apology cover it? I mean, I
think he was sincere in his apology for a number of reasons.
Yes, he's running for president. He needs the black vote to to
win. But I think that you know, just like his Greenwood
initiative that he put out after he found out about Tulsa, yeah,
last year, which is baffling to me that you can live in a
country and not know.
Where'd you hear this?
Where was where was Reverend owl all these years? I mean, I know
New York. This is his backyard. You just want to make sure let
me see. 2012 Rev. Owl takes Newark, NYPD stop and frisk law
to task with upcoming silent march. So then I'm sure that
Bloomberg paid him in the went away as rev al does.
As I said in the previous clip he saw on it you know he's done
it says he's he's naysayers. Well, you got that kind of cash.
I mean, what are you gonna do? But did you hear how she's like,
oh, yeah, he apologized and that we accept it. You know, he he
wants to be president. He needs the black vote so it must be
sincere. How does that logic work? That will make it
insincere.
Here we go. Reverend Al Sharpton. This is from 2010
Finally disagree with Mayor Bloomberg a week ago on how to
change elections in the city. See, okay. Sharpness National
Action Network out of $110,000 grant from a brand new nonprofit
funded by Bloomberg. Just want to make sure we stay on top of
that. Jumoke don't like him.
Damn. He's one of the most powerful men and in in this
game. Oh, yeah. And when he gets in there in a race game, yeah.
But let's continue to listen to, I guess, Karen Hunter, Bloomberg
topology.
That's why we have to be informed. That's why I go so
hard to paint. So my question is, number one, people running
for president. They're going to need the black vote to win on
the Democratic side and Trump is baffled by why he doesn't have
more black supporter because you're racist, sir. Listen, it
doesn't matter how many programs you do, how many black people
you let out of jail. If you legalize marijuana. At your
core, you hate black people, and I think if you had the option
tunity to get rid of all black people, and I'm talking about
Mexicans, anybody with any melanin? Anybody from any
country that speaks any language other than English. I think you
would wave a wand and get rid of us. That's fucking
unhinged this woman. Is these horrible. Oh, my God woman.
Oh, my knee. Yeah. You said about Al Sharpton Come on now.
We're talking about Bloomberg and stopping freeze. All of a
sudden you accept his apology, but he's not a racist. And he
you say it doesn't matter how many black people you let out of
jail. That doesn't tell him for it. But Bloomberg is apology
atones for HIV actually lock in black people look.
Like, I'm 22 in some way.
2020 We know its vision, you know, clear vision. Oh, yeah.
Nice. 20 election is going to clarify and crystallize a lot of
things. We're seeing size being drawn, we've seen things being
brought to the light. When you have this kind of money, people
are going to be exposed. And I'm gonna be bored.
Always for it. Of course, always for
these two men had the same as views. They come from the same
exact places. They have the same exact privilege as you see it.
But you do this weird. A Jedi mind trick or however you want
to look at it. Well, this guy is a racist to the core. But this
other guy can be accepted because he apologized. How does
that work? Yeah, please tell me how to
well, I'm trying to find where. Okay, so she's co authored
books, Karen hunter with Al Sharpton. That says enough right
there.
Oh, yeah.
She's tied in. Yeah. And I want to say this other thing. I want
to make sure I understand the term meal you correctly. This is
a small just a small aside. But I think I spotted one. Okay,
between her. Stephen A Smith, a Charlemagne to God.
Okay, so Milio is your social environment. Fancy as French
word for it. And you can detect millio by the way people dress
the way people talk. Even certain acts. That's usually
where Devora Can I pick it up is how people speak.
Because the way they speak and know that know that. Stephen A
Smith and a shaman gotta from the south. But they may not
really know he still makes me from New York, Charlemagne to
God from the south, but they have this unique way of talking.
And I know that I was like, she sounds like somebody but just
just pay attention to it next time you hear, okay? Well, cuz I
think they run in the same circle as well. But let's just
listen to Problem three. But I
had, I had a meeting today with a person who's not black, and
we're talking about loans and this and that, and we're going
over my finances. And I said, Yeah, I had this loan, you know,
subprime loan, even though I had great credit, a great job and
everything. She was like why? I said, because the banks were
predatory towards black people. And I said, You didn't hurt if I
hadn't heard of that. And so then we went through another
thing. I said, Yeah, I had another loan too. And it I could
see her catch her breath. Like, just because you're black. You
got to battle. I said, Yes. Yeah. Isn't it amazing? We're
not in the streets and burning stuff down. Like, isn't it
amazing that we're we're relatively well adjusted,
considering all of the obstacles and I said, if I didn't have
anything to compare it to, I wouldn't know that this was
targeting. And if if the Wells Fargo thing in the in the
housing bubble hadn't happened, we wouldn't have known that
there was a willful targeting of black people. But what did that
do that impacted the wealth of black people for centuries?
Yeah, probably, that created a wealth gap that's going to take
200 plus years to close, because people excuse me, financial
institutions willfully came after black people and gave them
bad loans. I said I had a piggyback loan on a house that I
didn't have shouldn't have had a piggyback loan. And I talked to
a bunch of my black friends and they all had pity.
Yeah. Why?
I'm not sure I agree with what she's saying here. Saying you
have a subprime loan is not a loan that is targeted towards
anybody except people who are stupid and or are lying. And
that's what happened. So it was predatory that people said, you
can't afford this, but I'm gonna give it to you anyway. I put a
lot of that on the people taking the loan.
I agree with you, but In two things, one, she was talking
about stop and frisk. This is from the same clip at the stop
of free shs. And she does is weird pivot. I don't know if
it's the case of the truth wanting to come out. But she
starts talking about subprime loans. And I'm like, what? How
did her brain make that connection to go from stopping
free to? to subprime loans? I do agree with that. We've got to
find out.
Oh, well, but
it's amazing that I agree with you.
Well, hold on, hold on, let me back up for a second, she starts
to clip off by saying I was had a meeting with a white person.
Right, which immediately it was like, okay, so I use it in some
kind of boundary, I'm not quite sure. But I guess it was a
financial person. And by the way, going over numbers, the way
she twisted this is that the white people took advantage of
the black people by screwing up the economy with loans and never
should have given anybody and a lot of white people who got
those loans, probably more than black people. But somehow that
to me was a very racially charged the thing she was
saying. And I can agree with her premise.
And the problem is, she's conflating two things. Yes. One
One, a lot of people, smart people, because she's smart. She
took a bad loan out herself. And a lot of her smart friends did
yeah, they took out loans they couldn't afford. But there is
systematic. Discrimination in the banking process. And I'm
going to prove that later, but I'm sure that she flakes, these
two things and properly, and it probably conflicts them may
serve an argument invalid, certainly weakens. Yeah, that's
the problem. It makes it it makes it you know, if you want
to talk about, but I'm gonna explain to you why I think her
brain did that weird pivot with Bloomberg, Barclays minorities
for the 2008 market crash
of all the things you could be wrong about being wrong about
the Iraq war is probably the most important. But I think
maybe a second is being fundamentally wrong about how we
ended up in the worst economic collapse of our lifetimes. And
Mike Bloomberg, who he's wrong, watch
some reference to the elements that led to where we are today.
Could you go a little bit deeper? And tell us from your
perspective, how did we get here? What are the root causes,
you can go back, I would say it probably all started back when
there was a lot of pressure on banks to make loans to everyone.
Redlining, if you remember, was the term where banks took Whole
neighborhoods and said, people in these neighborhoods are poor,
they're not going to be able to pay off their mortgages, tell
them what your salesmen don't go into those areas. And then
Congress got involved as local elected officials as well and
said, Oh, that's not fair, these people should be able to get
credit. And once you started pushing in that direction, banks
started making more and more loans, where the credit of the
person buying the house wasn't as good as you would like. Now,
it's not so bad, when the market for houses keeps going up.
Because the nice thing about making a mortgage loan is it's
very secure. After all, if the, if the borrower defaults, you
simply sell the house and you have something that's worth more
than the value of the mortgage. And that assumes that real
estate prices never go down. And we just discovered that they
could get some very interesting logic here. Redlining, which, of
course, is a talking point, is generally seen to be as very,
very bad and racist. In this case, the redlining in fact, was
protecting these, these neighborhoods from predatory
bank lending, but as Bloomberg himself said, but then the local
officials, I would presume that his administration got in and
said, No, no, no, no, no, no, no, you gotta Hey, you can't
it's racist to just screw YT that let's get everybody
and that's the thing they only open it up when it has something
toxic to sell to the red lock community, but red line and
we're gonna get to the history of redlining because it is it
goes deep.
Yeah, a lot of people don't really know what the hell
they're talking about with redlining. But the fact
that he takes this and those that term around, as you know,
like you say, it was keeping it was a good thing. And that's why
I say her brain made that weird jump, you're talking about
Bloomberg, stop, freeze, and then you do this weird pivot
into predatory lending. So I believe she knew about this. I'm
just speculating This is 100% speculation, but just how did
you borrow Hey, make that weird. I was having a conversation with
somebody about money without my stomach freeze?
Well, you're in the middle, yo. And there you go. You're in the
middle. You have white rich people, I guess.
So. So that's, well, we know blue is the same meal you, oh,
we know who shot man, the guy runs with Yeah,
with, with white hedge fund guys.
Exactly. I'm just saying, maybe, you know, they run the same
circles. But let's listen to market crash, too. So
while there was like systemic racism in how loans were given
out who was given loans, who had access to areas to buy houses,
interest rates, all that, and there was an effort to try to
solve that just a little bit. And look at what you get when
you solve that you crash the economy yet dummies? That was
what he offered up. It wasn't like they gave that as a theory.
And he talked about it for a bit. That was his core response
on why did the economy fall apart?
He just did a pro redlining talk there. That's unbelievable. 2008
Yeah, that wasn't like 1978 and corn pump would come into the
pool. 2008 redlining is specifically on it is a racist
policy. That's like saying while I mean, there's a value in this,
like literally defending segregation, literally, and say,
Oh, we're gonna deny people, loads of certain areas because
they're black. And he's saying, Well, that was a good old days.
And when we stopped systematically discriminating
against blacks and Latinos, it was those blacks and Latinos
being irresponsible that caused the collapse. Wow, okay, look,
other than being deeply, deeply immoral, it's also deeply,
deeply wrong. So and there's a good reason why Bloomberg is
wrong on purpose.
Oh, on purpose, okay.
Yes, we're gonna find out why he's wrong on purpose. But
let's, let's unpack some of the things that he said. This is
2008. When Bloomberg is talking. You're they're unaware that
redlining is seen to be as a bad thing
to discuss, this goes back to the 60s, man, this is a guy is
not on this earth.
Right. I think you'll even back to the 40s, if I'm not mistaken
with the New Deal.
The New Deal? You're right, you're right.
And that's why you had to have the equal was equal housing
lenders or whatever it is. That that was a correction of the
redlining. And these are real historical facts. And we're
gonna say, yeah, yeah, it was a good thing. The other thing,
this go to show, we get blamed for everything, with 30% of the
population probably
Damn, you ruined everything
of the GDP. And it's like, oh, yeah, we start giving black
people loans. That's the Hallmark. Now we get blood. You
can't make this stuff up. That is
one of the most I mean, that's, that's pretty egregious what he
was saying, there. That's that, man. Okay,
we didn't design anything. We didn't pass any bills. We didn't
lose any regulations. Yeah. And, and I know people out there
saying, Well, why would you take a loan? You know, you can't pay
for where if the game is, you know, beginning on this low
interest rate, and the house goes up? Interest rate goes up?
Yes. Flipping? Yeah. I mean, they have TV shows about this.
Your white people do it all the time. I don't understand what,
when, when suppressed group of people are given opportunity.
And I say that we were allowed, because due to how red line
work? Look, I'm I'm gonna pause right there. Let's just get into
crash. Three.
Why? Because they had removed protections on leverage. So the
banks could make wild bed sometimes put $1 down, but make
$100 bed. So when you lose the dollar, all of a sudden, you're
not losing $1 You're losing $100 Which you don't have in the
bank. And you did that by betting on these collateralized
debt obligations and, and the and the derivative packages, et
cetera. So I tell you all of that, because there is a real
answer as to why we had the collapse. And and the bankers
first pumped all that out into the market. Why? Because they
were like making money off of it. Like oh, go by, oh, we got a
great mortgage for you. They're handing them out like candy,
right? Oh, they would say oftentimes, you don't even have
to worry about filling it out. But it was irresponsible blacks
and Latinos who are at fault. No, the bankers told them. I
don't care if you have a job, I don't care if you fill out the
information a lot of times, because we're not like the money
we make on this mortgage, it's good and fine, but we're making
the real money on the derivative bet. Okay, so just go, go, go
go. And you're handing him out handing him out. Meanwhile, the
entire time they're making commission. And they're
collecting all of that, and they took it home and bonuses and
giant, giant bonuses on those giant giant beds.
Is that chunk chunk from Young Turks? Yeah. Good explanation,
as I think it did that well.
So now we understand why, or how the loans were made, and who was
making the loans and how they've been why the banks push, giving
loans to people that they know, because you look at it from both
sides, the coin one, I'm a person, if a person comes to me
and I have bad credit and wants to borrow $100, I'm gonna say
no, man, I'm not gonna give you that hurt at all, because not
likelihood to get back. So not only can put it on the ball, but
also the lender because you got to protect your investment. But
if you're making short term gains off of just the action of
loaning the money, they're self serving, of course. So I just
want to point that out. So now, to be fair, to be unbiased as we
are here on this podcast. Trump had his own issues with housing
discrimination,
14,000 apartments and 39 different buildings, all mostly
white tenants. That is until the Department of Justice took
notice in 1973 and slammed Donald Trump and his father Fred
Trump with a lawsuit. Trump management was charged with
discriminating against African Americans and breaking federal
law. Donald Trump then just 27 was president of the company.
The Department of Justice accused the Trump's of violating
the Fair Housing Act arguing they were turning away renters
based on race and color who tipped them off. local activists
so called testers posing as potential renters at Trump's
buildings, mainly in Brooklyn and Queens. Elise Gould Weber
was a lawyer for the DOJ Fair Housing section at the time, and
was called on to handle the Trump case,
when the black testers came, they were shocked. They they may
have been shown apartments are told nothing was available.
Whereas when the white testers came, yes, there were things
that were available, that would be the norm. And if
the Trumps did rent to a black person gold, whoever recalls,
they would do so only at one building in Brooklyn, reserving
the other buildings for white tenants
that the white people would live in Trump village and the people
of color would live in
Flatbush, and according to the Justice Department, they even
had a secret coding system to do it a racial code. Here's how
sounds pretty racist to me.
So, and this was brought up all throughout 2015 2016 Oh, yeah.
Trump. I even had a clip and it was unclimbable. But Rachel
Maddow, she was chasing down this dude who used to work for
Fred Trump. And she was like, Fred Trump used the N word when
talking about running to black people, and Donald Trump was in
the room. So I mean, they went, you know, it's no stone
unturned. You
know, what's interesting is, of course, you know, doing what I
do. I of course, I know of this issue, have discussed it on no
agenda. I don't think I've ever heard that detail about the the
testers. I think that's the first I've heard of it.
They had testers, and then they had this super sophisticated way
of identifying black renters. Here's how
some of the applications were marked with the C, which we
learned that it meant colored. The prospective tenants who had
come in or noted to be colored.
Yes, you heard her right. The Department of Justice alleged
application submitted by prospective African American
renters were designated with a secret code such as C for
colored to indicate a black person was looking to rent. In
true Trump fashion Donald Trump hit back calling the
government's accusations absolutely ridiculous and
telling the court I have never nor has anyone in my
organization ever, to the best of my knowledge, discriminated
or shown bias in the renting of our apartments. Trump's lawyer
said the government's suit failed to give names addresses
or specific incidences of discrimination, claiming the
lawsuit caused substantial damage to their business and
reputation. Trump took the most unusual step of suing the
Justice Department for defamation, seeking $100 million
in damages, but that countersue was tossed out by the judge.
Even so the Trump family maintained they never
discriminated based on color, but were instead trying to avoid
renting to people on welfare. Two years later, in 1975, Trump
and his father settled the case agreeing not to discriminate
against anyone. They also promised to advertise in
publications aimed at minorities, familiarize
themselves with the details of the Fair Housing Act and notify
civil rights groups of apartment vacancies. The Department of
Justice claimed victory, but the Trump's never admitted any
wrongdoing, reportedly noting the settlement was in no way an
admission of a violation.
So this is why I met. I don't agree with discrimination. But
at least I know when I'm dealing with this, here's my problem.
People want to deal with people that's gonna lie to him. If I
know where you stand, and I know how to deal with you, and that's
why I said, for my group of people, we need to stand back
and see who has something tangible for us because the
equal amount you said, on both sides, and whoever had the most
part to provide of as far as standard with stamps now it's
10. Tangible standpoint, then we we support I'm when I vote, and
if nothing comes, then we don't vote, because it means it means
two sides of the same coin. But the people that are supposed to
be our leaders will put on this shout dog and pony show, to make
it seem like there's a difference and they really not.
Right, right. Okay. When you say when you say leaders that that
goes down the line. I mean, it's not just president, but that's
local. Clearly, it's local, quote unquote, officials and,
and Al Sharpton is to yeah,
all of me when I say leader, and Tom. The clergy, the media, the
politicians, all of them. They're even not I'm not only
talking about black hair either. So we have Kerr Hunter. We have
Bloomberg. May not Bloomberg, excuse me, young Turks. If
Bloomberg happens to be the candidate for Democrats, they're
still going to carry the water.
Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I
mean, this is
you're looking at the at the differences here, between how
how each racial episode for each of the candidates is handled by
the media.
Right. So you're not we're not this is a litmus test. And then
the standard is not the same, right? If the standard is a god
support, stop and frisk, he's a no, he's a hard No. Then both of
them had to be a hard no. Right? Is no unfair housing practices,
supporting a redlining or housing discrimination? If
that's it? They participate in that it's a hard No, it needs to
be a hard no for both. But when I'm doing it, it's going to show
you how when you juxtapose these two people against each other,
you see the hypocrisy. I'm here to point out the hypocrisy. And
also validate the claims of redlining and stop and frisk
because they are real. But people you say, you know, some
people say, Oh, no, it's a piggy ranch nation, or that was long
in the past. But I would like to take a short pause here. We lost
one of our historical celebrities Miss Jeanette
Dubois, and she played willona on Good Times. I know people
were saying, How, what's the connection with that? I mean,
it's kind of hard, right? Well, she wrote a popular song for
one, a popular show the Jeffersons. I talked
to my mom in New York last time. I think I blew it. I think I
just I don't know if I can do what I told Norman I could do.
She said, always had said this to me. You can do it. I said,
but I don't know what to write about. She said what is your
what was your dream or your life? My dream was to get my
mother from working. Put it retire by a car Virgos move away
from Brooklyn ghetto. Ferris Jeep, Leesburg well lived. That
was a dream. See you living in Brooklyn yet? The east side west
side. I want to do to the east. I got the idea. I want to move
to the east. And I still wish on one of these days, ma'am. I'm
gonna I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna do this. I'm going to do
that and then do this. This was this is what everybody's always
saying to me since you were a little girl. Even when you
stuttered. You said. I said I was going Make a difference. I
was gonna change your life, I was gonna move you out of here.
Write that. wrote that brought it in. And I looked at it and he
said, Who told you about the story? Because no one told me
about stories. How do you know these things that you move into
the Sidon? And all this stuff about penthouse blah, blah,
blah. And I said, Well, that's personal. I said, but that's the
song. That's the promise. I kept saying it's the promise.
Limit. And she wrote the song.
Yeah, good. Yeah. Jefferson is moving on. Oh,
I didn't know. I didn't know she wrote that.
And I didn't. That's why I brought to the show, one to show
her respect, and rest and peace. But to she didn't even know what
the show was gonna be about. And not a reason why I brought this
up. And I find interesting is she didn't know what the show
was going to be about. But it's so common, shared, moving out of
this Oh, press area to something better. This is a shared notion,
especially ownership. And then now when you ask, why would
people take a subprime loan? Why would people take a you know,
something that they don't even understand, because it's one of
you inside baseball time, is one of few things that you can do as
a black person and feel like you really made it. One, graduate
high school to graduate college or any higher and higher
learning. Three on your own business and four is buying a
home. And that's where you really feel the American
dream. Interesting that owning you're owning your own
businesses in that list. I'm not sure that owning your own
business is a white thing in America as on the on the top
four.
Because it's in the pit, you feel like, Oh, I'm independent.
And the same thing with home ownership. I own it. It's mine,
you know, this is my, you know, it goes back really
psychological. I think back to back, you know, the founding
fathers and where you couldn't even vote unless you were a land
owner, right. Subconsciously is you know, so I wanted to share
her story because she wrote the song from a place of, I'm with
mom, I'm gonna take you out this, these red zones. Yeah, I'm
gonna take God these red zones, I'm gonna move you know, moving
on up. And I would just like to share for her and her life, her
song one more time.
With that forever moving special tribute here on more facts with
Adam curry for Black History Month, bonus day, Jana Dubois
and moving on up. And I'm glad you did that Mo. And I'm glad
you didn't even know this. I didn't know that she wrote the
song. I know that she passed away February 17. Yep, should be
shot should be celebrated. And I think that's an appropriate
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So where we left off, it was redlining. Yes. So I'm going to
do a little history lesson on redlining. We know we always
have to go back to understand what the past and how it impacts
the future. But first, I found it a little funny bit by the
route on red Lonnie,
are you looking for a new neighborhood to live in? Then
come on down to redlining Realty sanctioned by the US government.
There's the breast infrastructure, underfunded
school. No white people. They're all in the suburbs. Heck, we'll
even throw in freeze you know, doesn't that sound nice? Call
redlining Realty today, and we'll get you a house built on
the most American foundation of all racism.
Thanks route.
Yeah, so you know the route. But I found this show called Adam,
Adam Ruins Everything. Oh, true TV. Yes. Not you, Adam. Well,
the other Adam Yeah.
And he lays out the disturbing history of the suburbs.
It's not so white here look. Bad example. Ignore sweater dog
people. A tote bag full of kale. You're killing me, lady. Okay,
maybe this neighborhood is mostly to completely to
insufferably white. But that that's just the way things are
here. It doesn't mean we're racist.
I'm sure you're not wrong. But the fact that so many suburbs
are mostly white is no accident. It's the result of decades of
racist federal policy that affect us to this day.
Look. What the heck kind of game is this?
It's settlers of the suburbs, redlining edition. Up Green, run
your red. All
right, red, just like the name looks like I've got the
advantage.
No, you don't see in the 1930s. As part of the New Deal, F er
created loan programs to help Americans finance their homes.
But to decide who got those loans. The government created
color coded maps in which green neighborhoods were good and red
neighborhoods were bad. This practice became known as
redlining.
Was this the creation of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as well?
I'm not sure. All right. Maybe I'm thinking I think it may have
been a little lighter with I want to say LBJ,
I want to say oh, yeah, okay. Well, I'll look it up. Look it
up.
But as you heard this deal with government practices, yes. And
need you as you heard. People say, Democrats say FDR was one
of our greatest presidents. How you gave us what we found out to
be public housing, which pushed and previous show we talked
about the no man house rule, right. And public housing
projects. And this is the other thing that we got out the New
Deal, all redlining, so I'm not quite sure how that helped.
But it helped the white people
as we're going to hear suburbs to
because of these policies. If you live in Green neighborhoods,
it was super easy to get a home loan and buy property. For folks
in the red areas, no loans were available.
I can barely afford rent with this. There's no fair the red
areas are screwed.
Yeah, they were. And you know why some areas were designated
as red? No, but I can guess those were the neighborhoods
where African Americans and other minorities lived. And
redlining systematically prevented them from getting home
loans. Wow.
I know what I'll do. Just take my little guy and put him in the
green neighborhood.
Sorry, that's against the rules. Early suburb developers like
William Levitt instituted explicitly racist policies,
levied townhomes must not be used or occupied by any person
other than members of the Caucasian race,
and the federal government itself, encourage developers to
discriminate
developers, I
want you to exclude non whites. The result of these policies is
that from 1934 through 1968, a whopping 98% of home loans were
given to white families.
Okay, this is not fair. I did not get to pick what color I was
when I started.
Yeah, no one does.
What the justification the way I understand it, and that was the
what is now what is it? What what the Ben Carson HUD, I guess
Housing Urban? Yes. Federal Housing Administration. They the
redlining was justified, because if black people moved into the
white people, neighborhoods, it would decrease the value of
their homes. That's not racist. True, all.
True. And so we're going to it was a couple of things. It's
starting to tie in to this episode. white flight, as we
talked about on a previous episode, yep. white flight was
driven out of if you move into my neighborhood, you make the
property value go down. Yeah. So that's why they moved before
they got stuck with the depreciating asset. Yeah. Which
would have put them basically what happened in the subprime
lending scandal. You bought a house for more than it was worth
after the after the fact? Yep. So we have, we have white
flight. And then we have another thing. The integration that we
talked about with the color purple, not color, purple,
excuse me, raising his son. That was the whole premise behind
that the family moving into the white neighborhood. Now, I've
always been against of force integration. So I'm all for
separate but equal. Why can't we just allow the funds to flow
into the quote unquote, red areas, that way you can upgrade
your property, bring value, and then it was you could create
your own communities. So you can see how this this is kind of
what the justification for people wanting to move move into
white neighborhoods. But it was all fine. It was all a force by
federal law. Yes. So I think we left off at two. So suburbs
three, and
this advantage compounded over time, the families in the green
or white neighborhoods were able to purchase homes and accrue
wealth.
I can sell my house and buy a bigger one.
Whereas the people in the red neighborhoods got none of those
opportunities.
I can't afford property I'm behind on my electric
bill. In the green neighborhoods, the influx of new
wealth attracted new businesses. Oh, yeah. And again, a grocery
which cause property values to go up, which meant white
families could sell their homes and send their kids to college.
So fast passing down their wealth and advantages to future
generations. Meanwhile, the red neighborhoods had far less
ability to build wealth, and many remain trapped in poverty.
This game is rigged. Yeah, it was. That's why laws were
eventually passed that made most of these discriminatory
practices. Illegal.
Great. Finally, I can move. I don't have enough money.
Exactly. Without wealth. Families in the red
neighborhoods couldn't afford to move up keeping these
communities separated by race today. 70 years after Levittown
was created it's still less than 1% Black
I may be dead but the effect of my racism
lives on. Yes, some local and this may be now the thing about
this may be the same everywhere. The redlining was accentuated in
Austin, we have I 30 Five. And that was the line right there.
Eastside Westside, you and I live on the east side, I live in
the red line district. And but then when, when I when I moved
when I'm moving on down, I'm called the gentle fire can't
win,
you can't you can't win. Oh, and that was very popular for them
to use interstates as I said before it Durham freeway ran
through Hayti, Durham, North Carolina, that district
destroyed that community. So love it. I think it was leaving
town to the town. I have a I have a couple, a black couple
that were war. husband was a World War Two vet. And I just
want to give a little color to the story and human touch to the
story of redlining.
We came to Levittown. And we found the model house. And we
walked in and we looked around. And, of course, in the eyes of a
young man who was raised in the ghetto, so to speak. It was an
interesting experience, interesting lifestyle, seeing
all the new modern conveniences very fascinating.
Eugene Burnett came home with almost a million other black T
eyes. They had fought for the country in segregated ranks.
They returned hoping for equality and the American dream.
For many, that dream was a new home for little money down. And
some of the easiest credit terms in history.
I went up to the salesman, were interested in your home
interested in buying one and what is the procedure? Is there
an application to be filled out? So of course, he looked at me
looked around and he said to me says Listen, it's not me. But
the onus of this development have not as yet decided to sell
these homes to negros.
It was as though it wasn't really you can't imagine. wait
for someone to come out and actually tell you that they can
sell to you you know, I was really on a man look at this
house. Can you imagine having this and then for them to tell
me because of the color of my skin? I can't be a part of it.
Yeah, this this is well known story about
World War Two vet.
Lemon Lemon, lemon tree live in Levittown was built with I think
probably some money as well, from the veteran, the VA. I
mean, the whole idea of this place was for veterans to be
able to come back from war get their families going. And
started life as as people who served the country deserve and
finally had their piece of the pie.
I didn't know you're such a singer mo
that's the point. That's all we want. Is our piece of the pie.
Now does some of the problems between black and Jewish stemmed
from this in the Levites were were Jewish? Yes. And well and
I'm wondering if this if Well, I'm sure it didn't help any of
the any of the relations between these groups. But I wonder if
part of the Genesis
it went and it went on then and it goes on now even today you've
seen the stories in New Jersey what happens is when the great
migration so when blacks first move north and to the slums
there they were previously occupied by other ethnic groups
non white to me because that was before everybody was not meant
to white so you had these other use the immigrant groups that
the blacks were rent from?
Okay, who do you remember just out of curiosity, who would who
would that be? What are their immigrant immigrant groups would
that be
Jewish mostly Jewish? Mostly Jew especially in Detroit in places
like that? Yeah. So they would they will move up and then we
will fit backfield their community that they left behind
got it, but they would explore it and we talked about this on a
previous show, they will explore it through the way they ran it
and even they will say okay, I'm gonna sell you the house, but if
you miss one payment, you lose all your equity, right? things
of this nature. So yes, that is they contribute to the the
Tension between those two groups. So, but yeah, I mean,
just so I just want to let this couple finish up with their
story.
The FHA underwriters warned that the presence of even one or two
non white families could undermine real estate values in
the new suburbs. These government guidelines were
widely adopted by private industry. Race had long played a
role in local real estate practices. Starting in the
1930s, government officials institutionalized the national
appraisal system where race was as much a factor in Real Estate
Assessment as the condition of the property. You using this
scheme, federal investigators evaluated 239 cities across the
country for financial risk.
So that those communities that were all white, suburban and far
away from minority areas, they received the highest rating, and
that was the color green. Those communities that were all
minority or in the process of changing, they got the lowest
rating and the color red and they were red line. As a
consequence, most of the mortgages went to suburban eyes
in America. And it's suburbanized. It racially
so this is what this is what contributed to the racial wealth
gap. Okay, and as you I want to point something out here. When
you think about images of racist, white supremacist is
certainly some country guy, poor guy in Alabama, West Virginia,
you know, Mississippi, but this is the real, right. So when we
talk about why super this is what I'm talking about, this is
the fhsaa you get to black people in your neighborhood. Now
your your property value is going to plummet.
In fact, I'll take it one step further. Yes, this this was the
US government. But it really was kowtow into Wall Street. That's
really what it was about. Oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute.
What do we know that works on Wall Street? Bloomberg,
uh huh. And that's why redlining read all redlining, you know,
would have protected us from the subprime lending, you know, if
we, if I just had my way, but Well, well,
well, well, well stop. No stops. So Uber is actually so racist.
He's, he's like, 1945. Racist?
Yes, he's institutional racism.
He's the OG that's good. Um, Trump is just a wannabe compared
to this.
So just think about it. Now we're starting to see these two
things. And where they converge it you have red lining, which
keeps them inside their zones. And then you send in the stop
and frisk to police them in their zones. This is all
institutional right. This is when we say institutional
racism. That's is what was
it? Yeah. This completely completely
sanctioned by the government.
And it's pretty damn recent, as if it's never gone away.
Well, some people will tell you that red line and did go away,
but they're still modern day rehmani.
It's been 10 years since the economic recession, and credit
has slowly returned for most Americans. By 2016. The number
of conventional mortgages had risen 95% Since the housing
bust, and yet some Americans are still being left behind. The gap
between white and black ownership is wider now than it
was in 1960. Tonight, the first of a two part series results of
a year long investigation from reveal a program produced by the
Center for Investigative Reporting, as reveals Aaron
glance reports, black and Latino homebuyers in some cities seem
to have a harder time getting a home mortgage.
Brooklyn native Rochelle frugal moved to Philadelphia in 2015,
hoping to buy a home here
as like, I'm gonna try this thing. You know, I've got a lot
of gumption.
She made a good income as a computer programmer, and had
enough for a downpayment, or potential lender Philadelphia
mortgage advisors was encouraging at first, but the
lender worried her income could be unstable. since she was a
contractor, so for rule suggested her mother cosign
because
my mom is a retired school teacher specifically, she lives
in New York City for 35 years, her pension is great.
But for rule was told that wasn't enough to offset her
mother's student loan debt from a PhD. I got shut down,
left and right.
She wanted to apply for this loan. She was a contract worker,
but made very good income. But initially, Mom co signed for it,
which had a great pension, but it still wasn't enough. So it
makes you wonder, is this racially motivated? Well, let's
find out and clip to
after Rochelle ferrule began to wonder if race factored in her
loan denial, she decided to use a new strategy.
In order to be considered a good applicant. I needed to have a
white person or someone who's white adjacent vouch for me.
This time, she asked her girlfriend, Hanukkah friends,
who is half white and half Japanese to apply with her
friends was working part time at a grocery store. Wonderful, most
recent bi weekly paychecks was $162. And at the time, your
financial situation was unstable. Oh, yeah,
that's terrible. Oh, that
was so bad.
It was terrible. I was borrowing money for my sister was helping
my health insurance at one point because I didn't have enough
money to pay it.
But for Santander Bank, the final lender for rural tried,
none of that seemed to matter. France had a good credit score.
And when she came on board, it all went smoothly. Even though
France couldn't provide proof of a stable work history.
They were like we need to yours. And I was just like, I can't
give that to you. And they're like, alright, we'll move
forward. Yeah. Okay.
All right. So does she have on record they actually say you
need to have a white person that that was written requirement.
Know, what she did was it was experiment. But he said, let me
use a white or white adjacent person, right. When you have
white person, well, there was some tissue in the door,
there was something else in there. And I'll just take that
and run with it to modern day slavery, not necessarily color
related. She had a good credit score. This has been one of my
pet peeves. Yes. And you know that to Credit Karma was just
purchased for $7 billion. Why is it important, because it is a
slave control mechanism. It's not even the official credit
score as handed out by the two official credit agencies, it's a
credit score by the bank or a couple of banks. And you know,
there's some consortiums that kind of made up, but what they
really want is they want to have access to your bank account,
which you give them when you sign up for these apps, you
actually give them your password, your username, your
login, token, do whatever they want, see, whatever you do, and
then even under the guise of, we're going to help you. They
control you. Okay, so Well, if you pay your utilities bill, at
the first of the month, your credit score is gonna go up. It
is total slave control.
And as a running theme on this show, they always start with us.
Well, hello,
hey, thanks.
Thanks. You know, I
had to marry a white woman to get enough credit to buy a house
dammit. It's all your fault.
And it only takes half a white woman because her girlfriend was
half white and half. All you got to do is be half halfway. And
she and I want to talk about this little this little term.
White adjacent. Yeah. Because that was have you heard this
term before?
No, no, I
don't think so. Okay, why adjacent is a person who is
technically a minority, but has access to utilize and sometimes
benefit from white privilege.
You mean like Drake, so?
Oprah are gay?
Okay. Yeah. That's a better example. I got it. Yes. In
the proximity, but not we see this still goes on today. The
Emmys. Stop? No. And it's like you said it's all about data
points. And I mean, iron data points they had back in the day
was your color your skin like, oh, well, they come from that
red zone. And he got black skin. So that's it. No, that's the
hard. No.
It's so interesting. And this is a good lesson. And it's really
important. This show is so important. Beyond the racial
connotation, because this was one data wasn't really
available. This is when all this started the data was you live in
this area. This is the color of your skin. There wasn't much
else data, much, much other data. Now there's all of this
data and believe me these algos are super racist, super racist,
and they're determining how much sentencing you get in the
criminal justice system. How much you can borrow for your
house in oftentimes if you're appropriate for a certain job.
Bob, and it's baked in it is it is systemic racism. I don't say
racism, not white supremacy. It built into today's technology.
Well, like you said, this comes from the bankers and who are the
bankers?
Who are the bankers? Well, I can answer that many. Well,
we like I said, we use this yes, that we use various terms, the
elite,
the true white supremecy. was, as our friend would say,
Uh huh. So I mean, it comes from the top down. Yes. And that's
why I said, it's fascinating that we're starting to see
billionaires, you know, run for president and all this truth is
starting to be unveiled. But with that said, no matter how
much truth people see, it doesn't matter to them. So we
going back to the Kara Hunter show, and she had a guest on
Laurie Daniel favors. And Laurie Daniel favors is an intern for
the executive director and General Counsel at the Law
Center on social justice activist attorney, and she's on
a Karen, she's a contributor to the Karen Hunter show. So she's
gonna, this is almost a two minute rant. I just want to let
her run. I didn't want to clip it. I want to let her run
because no matter how many data points and if people see that
these two people are like, listen to this cognitive
dissidence that that she displays. Bloomberg
is responsible not just for stop and frisk furthering it,
systematizing it, glorifying it, defending it up until last year
when he decided he was going to run. But he was surrounded by
intellectuals, black activists, activists of color up across the
entire spectrum who outlined for him the problems New York City
Lawyers Association NYCLU the data, the statistics, he had
facts, he had information, and he was committed to a racist
policy that jailed black people arrested black people stop and
frisk black 32 students, Bushwick, 3232 students who were
on their way to a funeral had permission from their principals
had letters from their parents accosted by the cops are held
for 36 hours had to go to trial had to get in my husband is beat
up in court by court officers at their defense Trump because the
way in which police and court officers were militarized
against black and brown communities and you expect us to
just eat that he's got money, so he's gonna be the best candidate
gentrification. Bedford Stuyvesant, Crown Heights, East
New York, Flatbush, Harlem did the Bronx, black people driven
out of this city, right under policies that favored wealthy
white people and developers, we cannot even sustain our
communities right now. Education, he undermined the
ability for us to have culturally competent education.
You want me to sit because he can be Trump. So Trump gonna
He's gonna do what he do. Bloomberg gonna do what he
doing? Yeah, he might win. But guess what, all y'all getting
arrested. All y'all getting stopped in prison. He implements
the same policies across the country that he further and
support in the state of New York. Give me a break. We can do
better than this. And I'm sorry, I gotta agree with Meghan
McCain. But now I'm upset. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to add
that.
If he's the nominee, are you gonna vote for him? I don't
think he should be the nominee if he's the nominee, because
that's a strong possibility
if he's the nominee, knowing. And so having said everything
that I just said, because I'm aware about how the politics and
the system in this country works. Yes, I will have to vote
for him was
watch. After that rant.
There you have, oh, my goodness. But I just want to understand
that just want to understand the justification makes sure I
understand this. So just go back to that one question. He's
the nominee, are you going to vote for him? I don't think he
should be the nominee if he's the nominee, because that's a
strong possibility if he's
the nominee, knowing. And so having said everything that I
just said, because I'm aware about how the politics and the
system in this country works. Yes, I will have to vote for
him.
Wait a minute, I don't understand. She just railed
about the system and the politics. As he says, Knowing
how the system and the politics in this country works. He has to
vote for him.
You explain it to me, because I don't I don't understand. But
this is this is what we get. Now, does everybody see these?
Why are these people cannot be trusted. This is the reason for
value for value. This is why you need to have the independent
media. You wouldn't have the Bloomberg tape dug up without a
podcaster you won't have this conversation we haven't without
podcast and independent media. And one of those parts of the
independent media is what is called the New Black Media,
because they're holding people like this the task that you get
out here and give a one minute and 58 second rant of everything
wrong with Michael Bloomberg. and you put him against another
so called races and you will make a choice instead of saying,
You know what? I abstain? Well, no, I'm not.
Well, so there's a number of things. One, this should this
show, not just this episode, but this is a good one should be
played in schools across America, children's to have to
listen to the show, of course your school won't do that. So
give it to your kids. And if you're really offended by some
of the naughty words we use, you can always take them out. It is
especially beautiful to learn this during and of course, I've
learned more than most people casually dropping in on the
podcast. But during Black History Month, the bonus day, no
less. Black people of America, you got some problem with the
black people of America too.
We got to clean house. Yes, we have to clean we have to clean
house, it's lamp people gotta go. It's ramping from the top.
It's the top 10% And the bottom 10%. And this is what I'm
saying. The top 10 the top 10%. They highly sit by. And they
only do what they're told by their pay, you know who
controlled them? We got to understand what Bula is again,
that's the that's the adviser to the king. So even heard, she
laid out everything. But you know what, I'm still gonna vote
for this, that same thing I say is the problem. How does that
work?
That that was the baffling part to me. I loved her rant, her
rant was fantastic. Except for the last minute, she just blew
it all up. It's like, what are you, but because Trump is going
to continue that, and you're gonna vote for the guy who
actually was doing it.
And these people don't bring us any solutions. They're the top
2% They're supposed to be the so called leaders. And then they
allow us to be terrorized by the bottom 10% in our communities,
because you damned if you do damned if you don't, right. It's
like if I want policing in my community, I can't get quality
policing. Which is why I think we should police ourselves. I
mean, that's a whole nother show for another whole nother day.
But
I explained that the bottom 10% the bottom 10%
is the you know, when the crowd comes from the people that heard
him saying I mean, it's not. That's the point, you have a
large, quiet group of people in the middle. They are scared to
call out the top. And they're scared to address the bottom.
Right? So they stay silent and I won't stay silent. Yes, you can
do two things at once. We can call out the top by saying tell
the bottom this is not acceptable behavior. I
understand the source of it. I understand that communities were
taught full of drugs and guns and you suppressed and not
allowed to have funding and lending and everything else that
all the other Americans are privileged. But that is no
reason to terrorize your own people and your own community.
No, you could do you could chew gum at the same time.
I mean, come on. Yeah. Wow. But
but not to end on that low note. Always like to know, just for
the psyche. One of the biggest scandals that were overlooked in
this whole Trump and Bloomberg. fiasco Smackdown was covered by
Mr. Jackson, which is a YouTuber, he only has 200
subscribers. So that goes to show you how I dig to find these
clips.
It's been dubbed mini Mike Bloomberg has been trying to
hide his hide from the voters. However, thanks to video
evidence, it will be impossible for Bloomberg to lay low, except
on a measuring tape. Here we see mini Mike standing on a box
while giving a speech. So we know it's not beyond him to pull
all sorts of tricks. Little Mike's favorite trick is to use
a pair of lifts inside of his shoes, and he might have got
away with it with the help of MSNBC. Here we see MSNBC put a
box in front of the evidence, so we don't know what he's really
wearing. Luckily, I was able to find this photo on the internet,
which clearly shows the shoes he was wearing the night of the
disaster in the desert, the Democratic debates. Notice
anything funny about the issues? I do. Look at those lifts there
on the side pressing out on the shoe we can see he's got at
least four or five inches of lift in there. Though the
cameras use tricks to hide his lifts from viewers. There was no
way of escaping the fact that at some point, Bloomberg would have
to walk in those shoes.
I can't believe I missed this. Where are you You all kind of on
top of it, because you caught where they had lowered the
lecterns? Yeah,
I saw that but I didn't know we had lifts in his shoes. He had a
double boost. Oh my goodness.
So it's lift gate is the
total lift gate. Oh, man. I'm looking for a picture now. Now I
want to see it
though we'll post a video of this. Yeah, Mr. Jackson's
video. Yeah, Mr. Jackson's video. Definitely want to see
that. Definitely. I want to put it in the show notes. That's too
good, man. All right.
Well, let's let Mr. Jackson finish up. Now.
Let's take a look at how Mayor Bloomberg walks first. In
regular time, I'll see if you can catch what's so strange
about this walk. Interesting. Now let's take a look at it in
slow motion. And I want you to take a very close look at his
knee. More specifically where the knee bends Wow, look how
long that leg is amazing, isn't it? Let's take a look again.
Very very big shins you have their Mayor Mike. Perhaps many
Mike has the world's largest chance. But more likely he's
wearing a pair of lifts the only person I know with a set of
shins that log is Dawson.
Dawson from Street Fighter the only video game I would
recognize in the entire world we love Dawson. Oh my so he's
basically on stilts is what we're saying here. It's not just
it's stilts. Oh my goodness. Ah, that's the best Mo Yeah, we'll
put Mr. Jackson's video in the show notes. That is too funny.
Well, that goes to show that Trump in this back and forth
billionaire Smackdown he definitely has pinpointed
Bloomberg real sensitive spot if you're going to that length.
He's so frustrated over it. That's that's pretty incredible.
That is amazing. Oh man. Mo thank you that made my day.
Let's remember the show was about redlining racial
practices, but I love this that was good man. Thank you that
good laugh good laugh for a Saturday.
Yeah, doesn't take us out of here. So there you have it. They
got to look to people that have similar views and two through
two different lenses.
Yeah, well, Mo Thank you very much for for bringing all of
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And as I always say, pay attention to everything and the
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song for many Mike I guess we'll talk to you talk to you next
week while I talk to you that out of the blue Julia thank you
again now because you think God can afford you you ever gone
again you know you broke down last what happened? You man many
poor girls when they tried to keep the stuff you're never gone
again. get in return you have my God I'm Jack