mo fax with Adam curry for December 30 2019. This is
episode number 19 the heck is this Mo? What did you send me?
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different things. Okay, that's nice. I like it a lot. But hey,
Mo how are you? Happy? Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas to you, sir. How you doing? Yeah,
good. Good. We haven't spoken for a little bit. In fact, that
was just before we got started. Someone on Twitter was giving us
crap. Saying hey, where's Where's Moe fax you guys are
slacking like, man. It's ended the holidays. We know that m
five M goes on holiday but we actually tried to do something
for you. All
right, we we should bring in the beat team. I mean, like
everybody else.
Yeah, the life of a podcaster now did you have? Do you have a
nice Christmas? You? Does a lot of your family come over to how
do I see that? You got you got like 18 kids? Yes.
No. No. We had a great Christmas. My mom was gone came
in came to visit. She just went home today. So I got a been
loved up.
Oh, yeah. Nice.
And sleep deprived due to the kids. You know, they get up
hella early in the morning. So I'm running low asleep behind
the.
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over. Okay. And Christina has, she was with her mom this year.
So she's here next year, and she was in Rotterdam. But it was
nice, nice, pretty uneventful. Nice, everyone happy, you know,
just enough to drink
perfect. About the same here without the drinking.
Which brings us to moe facts, the last one for this year. And
that you were we kind of left it. After the last episode, we
like I'm going to wrap up into your stuff and, and I realized
about an hour ago, like I really have no idea what we're doing.
So I am ready to be to embark on the journey.
This is going to be the black vote episode. Okay. So we're
going to talk about a few things that we promised that we were
going to talk about the Southern strategy, Why do black people
vote vote democratic? And why I refuse to vote? Why am I
abstaining from voting? So I promise to answer those
questions. And I think those will be answered in this
episode.
I can't wait. It should be over in my, what, 17 minutes.
So, so we have, um, let's just get right into it, the history
of the black vote, and what it means for 2020.
In 2020, we think that at least one out of every four votes that
are cast in the Democratic primaries for president are
going to come from black voters, it's very possible that will be
the highest number we've ever seen before. It's very possible,
we will look back at 2020 and say the black vote was never
more important than in 22. Put this in some context we've put
together here, something I think is very interesting exit polls,
starting in 1976. From past Democratic presidential
primaries. 1976 was basically the first year that media
outlets like NBC began sponsoring these primary exit
polls, you know, whether it's the New York primary, the New
Hampshire primary, the Florida primary. And so we have a record
that record though a lot of it has been buried, we have been
able to resurface we think every primary since 1976. On the
Democratic side, where there has been a significant black vote in
that primary, and where an exit poll was conducted. We found it.
We put it all together here. And you get a look here at how the
black vote has gone in each one of these competitive Democratic
races. And a couple of things stand out.
Now that I understand exactly what this episode is going to be
about. I want to tell all the listeners, they're very lucky
you are you are going to get an education that will make you
smarter than anybody else, you know, because this I think is
probably right. And I'm surprised NBC did this. So I
can't wait to hear more. This could be a very important
lesson.
And this is a very important election. As the broadcaster
said, one out of every four votes is going to be cast in the
primary is going to be a black vote. Right. We've already
spoken about the numbers in previous episodes of how they
need around 67% turnout for Democrats to be successful in,
in the general election. So they're really dependent upon
the black vote. And what this has done is put, quote unquote,
black people in a very powerful, powerful position to make
demands. And do
you think that this is well known? Does everybody who's
black know that this, this power is there at this moment in town?
Okay. No, there is a divide of who knows who doesn't know? Who
is that? Who's possibly abstaining? Who is gonna vote
regardless. And that's what we're going to get into it get
into as we move throughout this episode, because it's not a
monolith. Even though it's a voting bloc. It's not a
monolith. So I know, it's a weird thing. But
well, no, I mean, this people have different ideas, different
opinions, but it's an active conversation.
Yes. And well, when we typically vote, we vote in a block for one
party. Okay. So that is called
collusion is called collusion mode.
Yeah. So that is so very unique phenomenon. And I think our
listeners are gonna be very advantaged by hearing us had
this conversation, excellent going into the 2020 2020
election, because they're going to see, as they've seen from
previous episodes, the things develop real time, and they were
able to see what was going on as it was happening. So let's just
get into number two.
And number one is just there is been a slow, but steady
progression in that time, really, you know, 40 plus years
right now, you can point to two really kind of specific events.
Number one came back in the 1980s. It was the 1980s, twice
in the 84 campaign. And again, in the 88 campaign where Jesse
Jackson, the Reverend Jesse Jackson launched full fledged
national presidential campaigns in the Democratic primaries. And
he said in 1984, that one of his goals in that campaign was to
register millions of new black voters to get them voting in the
Democratic primaries. And he did you can see that in this data.
And then you see it jump again, about 20 years later. And that's
when Barack Obama wins with Brock Obama becomes president in
2008. And then through his presidency, you see this kind of
sorting out of the two parties, white working class voters, blue
collar white voters, who had in the past, maybe been Democrats,
they've migrated more towards the Republican Party and the
Democratic Party, the role of black voters, the role of non
white voters in the Democratic Party increased from basically
the moment that Obama became president there.
Wow, when did this air on NBC?
This was a what they say, ah, April may know, okay, or April
or April or May. So it was a little while ago as we went
under the radar. Of course. Of course. I mean, even for me,
because when I went in to go dig for clips, I was like, wow, I
mean, he really broke down the numbers. Yeah. So what we really
see here, we have a perfect storm happening here. We have
the information age of the internet, and really the
smartphone because that was that made information so much
accessible, where you have people with laptops, desktops,
people would really get on there to do to do a lot of searching
but now with social media.
Obama was supposed to be the internet president, but he
really wasn't I mean, the the internet then when Twitter was
around, but understanding how to use it, and just the the force
that social media has become and how integrated it is with
mainstream television, particularly cable news, which
flows over into print. I mean, the machine has really built up
and so now it's a real thing. You can use it, it's being it's
being used, it's being abused, and it can also eat your face
off.
Yeah, and a lot of information is being shared and on Earth.
And then the second part of that storm was Barack Obama being
elected in 2008 2012. Black people felt very disenchanted
from those eight years because we didn't receive anything of
substance or anything tangible from him being an office.
I want to stop you. The term tangibles for people who are
new, let's just explain that because it's thrown around a lot
You said nothing tangible
and that's something that we can really see feel touch. Point to
to say, Okay, we saw progress happen What we typically
typically get from the Democratic Party is feel good
stories change of hope you can believe a change you can believe
in hope. That kind of conversation those Yes,
conversation feel good. It was the you know, as the is the feel
good thing. So,
so there was years there was zero tangibles that Obama
brought to the black America,
zero. And as I said before, we only expected something from the
last term because we were understanding of the Wink, wink,
nod nod, you have to get make it to the second term to really cut
loose. When that didn't happen. As I say very many people became
disappointed. Then you factor in Hillary Clinton running against
Donald Trump, Donald Trump uttering the magical words the
black people are what do you have to lose? That made black
people look and say, Oh, what do we have to lose? Right? And from
there, now it's about what do we have to gain? So that's where
we're at right now. And it's, it's a magical time if you're
really into politics and and to see a group of people who
actually have this maturation, politically,
there was a, there was a clip circulating on on Twitter today
from CBS much was Face the Nation. What's the guy's name
Garrett, Garrett, something rather. And he's sitting there
saying, you know, for if you look at what he's done for black
Americans, what he's done for historically black colleges, he
had a whole list of a couple of things. He said, That's
accomplishments, any president would want his resume. And it
was quite stunning to hear that on CBS.
For the things that Donald Trump had done for criminal justice,
right, that was another one was also what he's how he's engaged
with the HBCUs. It was because because they were stiff arm by
Obama, when he was in office, he actually took them for granted
and didn't really entertain them at all. Oh, this is well known.
Anybody can look it up. So yeah. So when you have these things
happening. And we talked about the masculinity portion of it.
Yeah. So yeah. And
yes. In fact, I don't know why I don't want to stray too much.
But I was, I started watching Kevin Hart's series on Netflix.
Have you seen this?
No, I haven't seen it yet. But I heard about it. And I do want
to.
I mean, there's, there's some things I don't like, but I
really do like this guy. And at a certain point, it's kind of a
reality show. I mean, I completely understand how this
is made. And I like a lot of the choices he's made. But he has
this crew of guys that he came and kind of came up with from
and poor. And they talk openly about, you know, how none of
them had a dad and how their their brotherhood and they got
to watch out for each other. And you can just see that energy,
and you can see how easily that is tapped into with a guy like
Trump.
Yeah, so it's it's several things that we know Trump was
recognized for this the masculine important portion of
it to black men, that it's just like I said, What a time to be
alive.
Oh, hallelujah. Oh, what a time to be a podcast or Mo.
Oh, so let's get into part. Let's get to part three of the
next clip. All there. As we head into 2020 I think you will see
the story there has been sort of that rising tide in the
Democratic Party when it comes to the size, the clout the
power, the role of the black vote in Democratic presidential
primaries in 2020, it'll probably be more important than
we have seen to date. Okay, let
me identify the the dog whistle here was the rising tide, the
rising tide that rises all boats, which I think is no
longer believed.
He just forced it in there because he was he was used out
of context. So he just kind of what's your net win in there?
So what was the point of that?
It was it was no point. It was just like, you know, let's just
squeeze a meme in here.
Just trying to feel the time to hit the top of the hour. Okay, I
got it.
Yeah. People, anybody out there is listening and working a
foreign near or any political party, do not use the term
rising tie. falls flat. It does not work anymore. That was a
20th century mean 21st century it has the complete opposite
effect.
I mean, it might come back, you know, in another 10 years, like
bell bottoms, but we'll see.
So, you had you asked the question about the divides and
who's gonna Vote who's not going to vote. So one of the devices
we discussed numerous times in the show is between men and
women. But the one that really hasn't been discussed is the age
group. And the difference between the black Boomer row and
the black millennial vote.
Oh, okay, this is happening.
This is a real phenomenon. And let's get Can
I just need to say something? Honestly, yes. I just realized
that. When I think of black Americans, I never really
thought about black boomers and black millennials. And it sounds
horrible, but I'm just like, I never thought of it that way.
Yeah, of course. You got shitty millennials. And you got stupid
boomers,
I guess. And it's, it's a real divide, because it's a little
inside baseball before we get to the next clip. The millennials,
and not all but some of the millennials and some of the Gen
Xers feel like the boomers did very little with the things that
they were given or the opportunities that were given.
They think they were sold a bill of goods because integration.
Integration is not really seen as CS accessible as you would
think it will be. No, it's actually seen as somewhat as a
as a as a detriment to some people and are so a quote
unquote, community. Wow. So there is a huge divide there
between the black millennial Gen X or in the boomers. Okay. So
Black millennial won. In
2016, millennial turnout increased for nearly every
racial group, except for black millennials. Pew Research found
White, Asian and Hispanic Millennials turned out at higher
rates than they did in 2012. Whack millennial turnout, on the
other hand, fell by nearly five points. That could present a
problem for Democrats, many of whom view black Millennials as
the future of the party. In an Axios interview last weekend,
the president of the racial justice group Color of Change,
raised concerns that Republicans are aiming to win support from a
traditionally Democratic subset of voters. He said, quote,
President Trump's campaign is handing out literature and black
barbershops right now, they're doing micro targeting on
Facebook and have a digital strategy to engage black folks.
The Democrats would serve themselves really well to
understand in deep ways, the power in intersectionality being
specific and clear, will help people understand you're not
just talking around them or at them, but talking to them
the most okay, I'm looking at Color of Change now. Huh? Who
runs this outfit?
That is worn Mr. Van Jones. Ah,
that's who that is. Okay. I don't I don't dislike him.
Actually. I don't dislike van. He's just kind of. He's
entertaining though. He's full of crap.
He's entertaining. But he's opportunities. Yeah, major
opportunities. But he sells himself as a radical in that.
Yeah. Oh, poo. Right. change maker. You know, I mean, look at
this name to color change. Slightly muddy brown.
Well, can't blame them. It's kind of good. The Logos cool.
And he's got something going on there. Okay. All right. I'll put
it in the show notes have to investigate that later.
So what we heard here is the millennial black millennial
numbers are down. Yeah.
Woodrow.
We seen the Blau Black Lives Matter go after Hillary Clinton
in 2016. Right. I think that was a crack in the dam. That was
the behind the behind the stage conversation. They had that one.
Yeah. Yeah, I remember that.
When they may her knowledge Black Lives Matter and the name
I think they had a meeting with right direction, right? That's
it right? So you have it from a bunch of different angles. You
have like the black super woke, black Millennials saying hey, we
want a progressive candidate. So now you can't run a run of the
mill, Joe Biden. Kamala Harris, Booker, those guys won't get it.
So they're willing to lean towards more or you're Bernie
Sanders. Maybe Elizabeth Warren, but she has some issues of hers
and she's Native American that didn't really sit well the
works. So
is it also possible that all millennials in general are
disengaging because they're so tired of the boring show?
That could be a possibility but as the last could we play said
all the other millennial numbers are up.
Okay, so you have to trust those numbers then.
Yeah. We all have to take them at face value. But that's just
that goes to show you so
okay with that baseline, yeah, Houston, we have a problem. We
have a huge problem and now we're starting to get to where
that so we went from 67 to 59. We're starting to see where this
8% drop is coming from. And it's really the younger voters. So
let's go into black millennial to Orisha hatch
joins me now she is the managing director of campaigns for Color
of Change Orisha, thanks so much for being with us. Thanks for
having me. So what should Democrats be doing in order to
win the support of young black voters?
Democrats can do a lot of things. I think in this election
cycle, specifically, black voters and black Millennials
want to hear Democratic candidates speaking explicitly
to black voters, and explicitly about policy proposals and
agendas that actually help to not only reduce mass
incarceration and discriminatory discriminatory policing, but
also that are working to address the racial wealth wealth gap
that many of us face.
The racial wealth gap.
This is the whole point of reparations. Here we go. This is
the that's the that's the politically safe way of saying
reparations.
The racial
wealth gap
I like Why have I not heard this?
So who's made this a big issue is the A das founders tone talks
and event Karnail?
Interesting, because the first the first hit on and I do Google
for this show, is an article from Forbes. The second is from
the New York Times, and then article from Duke. And then the
Ford Foundation is this is an interesting, interesting little
topic we got here. Okay, good. So
why should racial wealth gap we might that might needs to be a
whole nother show in itself, because so fascinating. But
that's the that's the gap between the net well,
so it's not just, it's not just radical move the podcaster who's
saying this stuff. It's the it's the millennials, it's it's a lot
deeper than we know,
for its surface very deep. But the Democrats have tried to push
it down. Yes. And not acknowledge it, because they
know is a huge problem for them. It's a major problem. Even the
last speaker, she said they want now this is where
intersectionality doesn't work, because she said black and black
Millennials want things targeted Pacific specifically for them,
right? That's not interested. That's not intersectionality.
No, that's, we want something. No rising tide, none of that
bullcrap, what are you going to trade me for my vote is to even
exchange and this is how politics works. Is that day is
over. It's over. So the Democrats is going to have to
come up with a new strategy. And I just don't think they had they
better hurry up. It's just running out of time.
And and you have one Mr. Donald Trump. I'll say this before I
said it before, I'll say it again. We don't know what we're
going to get out of 2020 Donald Trump if he wins? No, he's not
beholding to his base anymore. We see he's done things in the
background, by criminal justice reform things that you mentioned
previously. So what would he really do to really change? How
he's perceived? And I'm not saying about any parties or
anything, but I think he would do something to to repair his
image. I really do
you think Trump could come up with a reparations Gambit?
I think he would could do something tangible. I wouldn't
say go for his reparations but you can do anything tangible
which I'm so I understand how would that how would that how
would that stone caught what what ripples in the political
sphere?
It would, it would cause an incredible brain freeze because
he's racist. That makes no sense that the kk k literally Hitler
does this.
Yes. That was good people on both sides.
Fine people, fine people, people, people.
I think we left off it too. Yeah. So let's go on to black
I'm a level three,
and will Color of Change be endorsing a presidential
candidate this election cycle,
we're still undecided about whether to endorse a candidate.
It's a very wide field, we fundamentally believe that any
candidate that Democrats will select will be better than
President Donald Trump. And so what we're doing is really
focused on talking and engaging black voters, black millennial
voters, especially many of whom are not even engaged by the
candidates or the campaigns, trying to expand the black
electorate the cycle.
Oh, I see the problem. You just have to talk like this, and then
that will appeal to the black millennials.
Yeah. Let me get this straight. So the candidates haven't
engaged. The voter. You want to talk to the voter? How does that
work?
I mean, first of all, who was she again? Where she from? Oh,
yeah, the color, color colors change,
color change. She's their spokesperson is just a
word salad.
You're saying? She is, but it's certain words she won't use and
that's a little foreshadowing. Next couple. Next couple of
clips. But I'm asking I'll ask this question again. And people
didn't think about this. Candidates are not engaging with
the voter. And your target is to talk to the voter to say what be
okay with not being engaged.
Exactly. Sounds like a strategy
that she needs to talk to the candidates to help them engage
the voters know. We're going to target the voters. That's a head
scratcher. All right.
So there's, there's money running around. There's this
operation. That's the head scratcher. That's like, how does
that work? That's cool.
It's given me a lot. It's what's that? What's the word? Where's
the word with this podcast when it comes to the black voting?
Activate?
Oh, of course, activate. Yep. And that's
the one that's what she told me engage. She didn't using gay she
didn't use activate. But that's what she said engaging. You go
activate the voter not changed the candidate not talk to them
about policies that could motivate the voter. You go
activate the voter. So Black millennial for?
Yeah. Are there any candidates specifically, so far that you
think are actually doing a good job in connecting with young
black voters in particular?
Well, we've definitely seen strides made in the last
election presidential election cycle, it was enough for a
Democratic candidate just to say black lives matter. What folks
are really looking for this cycle is more depth, a plan and
a policy agenda that actually moves beyond just criminal
justice reform, and addresses some of the economic justice
concerns that we have. And so there are a number of candidates
that we believe are taking that seriously. Mayor Pete with his
Douglass plan. Senator Warren has been talking specifically
about income inequality, and problems with housing
gentrification, that we think are very important to black
voters. Senator Booker, even Marianne Williamson on the
democratic national debate stage, has been really proposing
solutions that black folks want to hear.
Okay. I had not heard of the Douglass plan yet.
Yes. So that's a male peaks.
It's very inside baseball.
Right? I watch that clip. That's not from me. That is not from
me. That's what Young Turks
The Young Turks was it must have been,
I think it's called that isn't the crawl or what is the thing
called
the lower third, Lower Third,
the lower third, they actually had and I sent it screenshot to
Adam for verification, actually called the man mail.
The our was a misspelling, we think?
No. They hate that. They hate pee over there.
That that's pretty racist.
Very, very, very good. But I'm just showing you hilarious
though.
Once again, liberals, they will use racist terms before they use
the Koon. Yay. And now they're attacking Pete. With the mayo
Pete.
You know, we're recording this in the evening. For the first
time in the history of the show. I think we're a great late night
show mo we could be live coast to coast with this. This is
hilarious. Let me read, clear read Pete from Pete for America.
This is the Douglass plan with a double S, the decisions we make
the next four years will determine America's path for the
next 40. And a great deal of the progress he make on everything
from increasing economic freedom to confronting climate
disruption will depend on whether we tackle racially
racial inequality in our lifetime. For all our countries
forward movement, black people capital B in America are still
disproportionately excluded from systems of social protection,
economic uplift, Lou, I think I think that's kind of that comes
close to the rising tide and and representative democracy while
facing shorter lifespans, lower educational attainment and
dramatic over criminalization and incarceration compared to
their white counterparts. And, and so this plan is inspired on
Frederick Douglass and comparable in scale to the
Marshall Plan. Sounds like reparations to me.
Maybe but the problem that Mayor Pete has, he's no good. You use
besides not me, but you saw you saw how they came after him.
Over the what was the article from the root MF for or got the
title? Yeah, I mean, no, no, he's no good.
He's what? He's also known as Wall Street Pete I mean, the guy
definitely. He's, he's faced, as far as I understand. He is a
candidate has flown on more private aircraft than anyone
else. And yet, and so he's not paying for out of his own
pocket. And he's a Rhodes Scholar. In addition, I think
he's a spook. I think he's the CIA candidate. I really do.
Yeah, he's meeting me wine cellars. It's like, what what
are you doing to beat me?
That's what I mean. It's like, where's my invite Pete? Alright,
mayo.
So she, she brought up Mary and weaves. And we talked about Miss
Mary Ann on the show before. Yep. And she said, her
solutions, boom. Interesting word to say solutions. I wonder
what word you were avoiding to say? Let millennial farm?
You know, I'm curious on that last point, because she was
someone that did get quite a bit of attention when talking about
the issue of reparations specifically, is that what
you're referencing when you talk about Marianne Williamson?
Nice? Yes, we can. We saw from the debate stage that a lot of
the work that movements have done over the past several years
have entered into the debate. And so yes, black voters and
black millennials, especially, are looking for candidates that
speak explicitly to closing the black income gap, the black
wealth gap. And so folks have been at least in movement spaces
really excited to see that specific issue raised, raised to
a national profile this election.
was the last time you were in one of the movement spaces.
And she really didn't want to say that the R word.
No, of course not. She just said a whole bunch of stuff.
She rehearsed that solutions. Yeah. Mary Ann has solutions. I
mean,
I'm Marianne Williamson who and I don't know if she's still
running, and I don't think she's officially dropped. I like her,
you know, I liked a lot of what she said and she didn't quite
get there. But she put a number on the table, you know, $400
million.
Use the word. She used the word
but then you know, then she was kind of like and then we need a
committee and it's like, wow, wow.
I give credit where credit's due she did use the word Michelle
unabashedly. She pushed back against Don Lemon when he was
like how do you get how you calculate that number
but from a from a from a television and advertising
executive standpoint, once you did the talking in tongues in
the church it was all over for
they could use that for great ratings though. That would spice
up
the show. The show? No. No it because they wanted to get rid
of her so bad in particular Fox News which I don't understand
why because I think she's interesting. They were like, oh,
it looks crazy. And then you know, MSNBC. Oh, what's going on
here the Marianas crazy. You created a bit crazy. And that
was
she's talking about reparations and giving cash. You know, like,
we got to get her out of here but she got that's but if you
look at look, if you look
at survivor or Big Brother, you gotta have one crazy one. You
got to keep them around for a bit. You don't kick them off the
island right away.
If you talk in that crazy, you gotta go okay. cuz she was
pulled a new way to the dark side planning to do this. Oh,
true. They were like, no, no, we're talking about Yeah, you
can't be doing you can't be doing that. We will have a
meeting for our meeting, which would that's what HR 40 was,
what got my meeting? That's about a meeting.
Whatever came out of that HR 41. We were supposed to have the
next meeting. And where
you tell me, you tell me, Adam,
I don't know impeachment, Trump, but that's all I know.
So, now we're going out to black voters are a central part of the
Democratic primary. This is MSNBC. And this is our from the
roots. Jason Johnson.
Oh, well, Biden is comfortable. Biden is someone that people
know and also and I've I've done it a lot these numbers myself, a
lot of this is about age. Older black voters love them some Joe
Biden because they're like, Okay, he was with Barack Obama.
And all we want is Trump out of office, the younger voters,
millennials.
Is that how older black people talk? Mo that's the I love me
some Joe Biden is that literally a caricature? This guy is doing
just fine. It was NBC,
like Fred Sanford, all of a sudden, okay.
Well, we want his trump out of office, the younger voters,
millennials, and Generation X, like myself, often wants
something more often don't think that Joe Biden is going to be
transformative enough. And so the issue that he's going to
have is sort of the reverse of Bernie Sanders and 2016, Bernie
Sanders got young black voters couldn't get anybody over the
age of 30. Right. Basically, Joe Biden's got to figure out a way
to get younger African Americans to believe in Him to understand
that he's made changes since the 1994 crime bill. And then he
actually has to have a comprehensive on the ground
plan, which very few people except for Cory Booker talked
about, of how you're going to fight voter suppression, because
even if you've got black people supporting you, if they can't
get to the polls, or their votes don't count, you're not going to
be successful. And that's something that I think if you've
got 53% of African Americans saying we support you, you
should try and find a way for them to actually get their cast
a vote. Okay,
do we get to talk about this for a second about the black voter
suppression?
No, not really. Because I to be honest with you, that's so low
on the list. I mean, it's really isn't a real thing, MO. Because
of voter ID driver's license. Yes. You know, we as black
folks, we have trouble getting driver's license our IDs.
This is true. That's not true.
No, no, that's not true. But now the meme. That's the that's the
meme. Yeah, you know, when they have problems getting IDs, it's
like
it's so insulting. How come? I never hear any black person say,
That's stupid? That's insulting. They don't give us the mic.
You're hearing it now that you give me a $27. Mic. Now you're
hearing me.
And you know, buddy, sounds like a $30. Mic.
And no macular
onward. Okay. Okay. No, I'll just set it straight. Because we
know no one ever stops and mentions that. And so what is
this voter suppression? And it's literally, it's literally Well,
you know, it's hard for them to determine if you have voter ID
laws that suppression like, okay.
Just for a little background, Mr. Jason. I keep Jason Johnson.
He was he was one of the he found the root. And he was one
of the Russian botters. Just to give you context, he was a
Russian bot. Okay, I guess. So. This is why you This is why
you're here. These people are when you see them on MSNBC or
NBC or whatever, major outlet. They are toeing the party line.
No kidding. Go talk to the voter.
He's a professor to the candidate. He's a professor of
political science.
They will always slip to go to Eclipse to go go talk to the
voter, not talk to the candidate. I mean, we do we see
what's going on here. We do. So yeah, so is of the same ilk. Is
this next lady? I didn't get her name, I think is Donna. Yeah,
I mean, this is where you come to this question of younger
voters who really think in terms of intersections, they don't
just think about, you know, sort of Where's the guy who's been
with a black guy. And and I think that that provides an
opportunity for a lot of the other candidates to eat in there
and turn that vote out. I mean, that that vote basically didn't
really show up in 2016. And this is a real opportunity. And the
other thing is, you know, for Joe Biden, he's going to start
looking at what he's doing and saying, What am I going to do to
try to energize and galvanize this vote but I look at some of
these candidates who are putting out proposals that will be
really appealing to that, those younger voters and so I see that
as an opportunity to to grow. And you know
when when Donna says those voters stayed home in 2016, the
consequences of staying home in 2016 was Donald Trump. And I
think that this is again another indication of voters being
realistic about the consequences of not using their vote
properly.
You know what? I have an idea Joe will attract the young black
Millennials by calling it the mullah. No malarkey tour.
That'll work. Joe,
Joe has his berrio Boomer does tell me what he's struggling
with IE struggling with the millennials. No, it is. And and
Bernie Sanders me he has the black millennial vote. They
obviously they love Bernie Sanders. I mean, he's a icon or,
or, you know, this ideal candidate for for what they
believe. Well, if
he's promising a lot of free stuff, that's always good.
Yes. Free stuff. He always is a good thing. But what about what
about these back? Andrew
Yang is got something really tangible.
I mean, for everybody? $1,000 a month? Yes. That math problem,
sir.
I mean, how to pay for it. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
So, yeah. And, and they don't like it. I don't know why they
don't like Yang. I really don't. I mean, he seems like he seems
like a good candidate to get behind. But they want to push
Biden. Yeah. No, no, no. I mean, he's, he's no good for the
party. He's just now No, no, no. If you don't think so? No, I
don't know if the party doesn't want him. No, no, no, no. He's
Sneaky. Sneaky, still snow Silicon Valley. Sneaky. And
ALCAR. By and by sneaky. I mean, he wants a value added tax. And
he says we can do half what Europe is okay. Europe is 21%
for everything you buy in the store at 21%. To that, and
you're going to pay for that right then and there. Because
well, we can do with half. Yeah, I know. I remember when value
added tax was 12%. In Europe, and then I remember when it was
15 and 1718, then 18 and 19. And now 21. So now
that's why I love doing the show with you.
It's sneaky. It's it's sneaky. So that's, that's not gonna
hurt.
So he had the same problem now. Elizabeth Warren Harris has,
yeah, but she,
she just, you know, he's easily says it. And Elizabeth Warren,
he's like, No, I'm not going to tell you about the tax part.
Your cost will go down. She's telling you how to how to
calculate your taxes to have now she blew it on that?
I think so. So for the first portion of the show, I think we
clearly identify why the black vote is so coveted. And why so
important to whoever the winner or loser is going to be in 2020.
So we always have to go back. Well, hold on.
Can't we just call in Jay Z and Beyonce? Can't they brand new
black vote?
Didn't work in 2016 they had they had Lebron James. Jay Z,
Beyonce chance to rapper all that Hillary Clinton's like, I
think like two days before or a day before the election. No
dice.
John led to didn't have John Legend to
John Legere is always on call. For the guy, you call Hello. Was
I needed? So they have everybody but the younger voters. I'm
smarter. And it's transactional now right? And you can't come
with wooden nickels anymore. And these promises of rainbows and
glitter and all this. Me Yeah, you don't understand what I'm
saying? But like this foot that warm? fuzzies Oh, yeah, you're
gonna you're gonna feel great after you vote for what are you
putting on the table? Right? Not only are the millennials asking
that the good portion of the black male vote is asking the
same thing. What are you going to put on the table? So now this
is why we had had a conversation on previous shows what who
they're targeting when women because they can say this is a
first for you. We can have a first black woman we can have a
first black woman, female vice president you know that kind of
thing. Right? You know, it's there's still a first there
after Brock Obama like, it's there's no there's no more, you
know, and I
think it's pretty well established that the general
thinking within the Democrat Party is whatever whatever white
guy is nominated. It's going to be Stacey Abrams, who is vice
President candidate pay has
to be pretty
universally known. Yeah.
So now we have to go back and talk about the history of voting
on voting rights. And this is according to The New York Times,
in this scene from the 2012 movie know why Abraham Lincoln
spells out the terms of reconstruction are all
they heard was the first time any President has ever made
mention of Negro voting?
In 1865, he said freed slaves who were intelligent, or it
served as soldiers should be allowed to vote. The 14th
amendment passed in 1868, guaranteed this right as part of
the full citizenship accorded to African American man. But for
much of the 20th century, voting remained a contentious issue.
The 19th amendment, ratified in 1920, gave women the right to
vote, but the racial divide remain.
I'd love that you pull these clips, that's great.
So what I'm setting up here is why the boomers feel the
obligation to vote. Because they're closer to the neck to
two
to history yet to the historical struggle, of course, yeah,
they actually, you know, 60s, they were there were the
Millennials don't have that context. And it's like, I wasn't
there, you know, I've always had the right to vote. So I'm going
to be more callous selective with my more selective with my
vote, whereas the boomers say you have to vote, you have to
vote. And this is not something
this is a this is a critical thing to understand. Because
this is only just before I was born now, just as I was born,
you know, really, when a lot of these things came into play. But
even if you go back two generations, you're so right.
Black Americans have not had this right. And it's fresh.
Just a personal, personal anecdote, if you think about it,
my dad, right, he was born in 51. So like he was able to vote
in the very end of the 60s. His dad may have been heckled or
able to struggle for him to vote, right? So when they have
that conversation between those two, it's like, Yes, from my
grandfather to my father, son, you have to vote because we just
got this right. You have to keep keep the ball rolling. And where
as with the conversation, say between me and my dad, he's
always pretty much had the right to vote. I've always had the
right to vote. So now it's about
what are we going to do with it? Right, exactly.
And what we what are we willing to do? If we don't have our
demands are met. And it's hard for my dad to say No, I won't
vote. I understand that. That makes total sense. So this is
why Joe Biden's Boomer numbers. That's why I say Boomer, you're
saying tongue in cheek, but this is why his numbers are so high
with black age group. Yeah. And this is why they're struggling
with the black millennial. Well, let's get into history of the
voting rights to
some states continue to limit voting, either through measures
like the poll tax or direct intimidation of African American
voters. In the south. There were even whites only primaries.
This is Sam Tanenhaus of The New York Times. The first modern
Civil Rights Act was signed by President Eisenhower in 1957. It
created a federal commission authorized to enforce voting
rights. Senator Strom Thurmond conducted the longest filibuster
in history more than 24 hours in an effort to thwart the bill but
it passed the location for the meeting with Senator Ribbeck
still voting was not equal for all massive resistance in the
deep south was organized to keep blacks from the polls and legal
enforcement was hampered by all white jury.
This is why I get so hurt about modern day voter suppression
quote unquote voter suppression, right. When people will my
grandfather's age could have been be in even their lives
taken for going to vote. They were made to pay payroll taxes
they were made to take literacy test. Even things is asinine is
how many like jelly beans in a jar kind of things. So when you
say modern day voter suppression is like when you equate those
Who thinks it's so disrespectful? Yeah. To the
older black voters?
Yes. And to think that one or two generations after that would
care so little that they can't even figure out how to get an ID
card?
Or to check to make sure you're still on the roll. I mean, if
we're saying is, right, it's so important to us. Right, right.
Right. Going down to wherever City Hall and and make sure
you're on the rolls and getting your ID and make sure, of
course, we've we know, gerrymander happenings. And they
play with the voter rolls on both sides. I mean, this
happens. Yeah. But if you say voting is so important to you,
as a right, just doing those small checks to make sure you
have that right to exercise it, even if you write yourself in
whatever, you would think you would take it more seriously,
but these people come along and say, oh, yeah, it's voter
suppression. Dude, that is so it is just a smack in the face to
the people two or three generations ago that really
whose vote was suppressed? Yeah. So I mean, that that irks me,
and that's why I didn't address the voter suppression thing
until I got
it. It's one of those things that people just talk about,
just like you say, vote, voter suppression. It's like saying
comprehensive immigration reform. It's meaningless. common
sense gun laws, I can go on forever. It's like it's
meaningless. It's completely meaningless.
When a set is said to invoke a certain mind picture of course,
course white cop standing there, you know, blocking the polls.
How many jellybeans?
Right, he's that? That was really mean like read read this,
you know? That's not what happened now. But then when they
equate the two people
I will continue to call this out when I see it. Please do. Thank
you, sir. Okay. Oh, history of the voting voting rights. Part
Three.
Voting Rights became a central issue in the civil rights
movement.
I think this March will go down as one of the greatest
in 1965 The Reverend Martin Luther King Jr. led the march
from Selma to Montgomery for better voting laws. The nation
was shocked by images of the marchers being attacked. And
less than five months later, President Lyndon Johnson signed
the Voting Rights Act of 1965. It barred states and districts
from curtailing the vote on the basis of race, color or
language.
It is wrong, deadly wrong to deny any of your fellow
Americans the right to vote in this country.
Sections four and five of the bill included special provisions
to ensure fair voting practices in a number of states, most of
them in the South. Voting Rights Advocates say some citizens
there continue to be disenfranchised. But the Supreme
Court's close ruling on Tuesday, striking down section four
suggests that conditions have changed since 1965. And it is
left to Congress to reconsider the
act. Yep. There it is, again, yep, voted right still
disenfranchise. So I mean, so this goes from the history of
the voting rights. And it starts at the end of that last clip
starts to bleed over to explain why the majority of black voters
are Democrats
probably have to go back over a century to start begin telling
the story, right? African Americans start out when they
become essentially franchised? No, they do so because of the
Civil War and Abraham Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation, and
therefore, African Americans, sort of, by default, become
Republicans, because that is the party of emancipation. The
Republican Party, while it's in favor of emancipation, is not
really a natural place to put African Americans, especially as
the as the Republican party goes through the late 1800s, early
1900s, and goes through some sort of realignments inside
itself and turns away from a possible progressive move with
Theodore Roosevelt and becomes increasingly in the early 20th
century, more of the party of white collar business interests,
upper class
interest. Well, that's one way to explain it.
One quick question, sir. Do you hear me ring my bell? Yeah, I
heard you laugh a little bit in the background. Yeah. What do
you think are rang my bell? I just want to
start off with the church starts off with a church right away.
It's the same exact song. These are Two different news
organizations. Yeah. The first set of three clips was the New
York Times. This clip is a set of clips from newsy. And they
all use the same song. Which
song is it, though? We share? Oh,
yes. It's like a Mind Control trigger. I mean, I'm being I'm
being
No, serious. No, I hear you, because immediately caught me. I
heard it. I heard you ring the bell. And I didn't even hear
what song I was like, Oh, I get it. I know where I
am. It's like a portal to take you back to the Civil Rights
time,
then he didn't need to throw an amazing grace in there too,
though, once in a while.
Now, is this where we should overcome? That's that's the
mean. That's the shell. Yep. Yeah. And like I said, The New
York Times use the same exact song so that they're aware
they're doing this as a trigger, to trigger these emotions. And
that's what they want. They want emotional votes. They don't want
educated votes, they want emotional votes. But
this is this is who this is. This is political campaigning,
in general is always playing at the emotions, of course, and of
course, and we and we buy our we vote for our politicians just
like we buy our washing powder, as well as less, as long as the
message repeated a lot, then we get into it.
I agree I agree with it. So majority two,
but now you get African Americans moving into the north
where they can vote and they begin to find the appeal of
Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal very attractive, they begin
increasingly to identify with the Democratic Party doesn't
happen overnight. Right. Partisan attachments take a
while to erode during the late 30s and early 40s and late 40s,
to turn from a party that had been held hostage to state
rights in the South to one that was willing to embrace civil
rights. You see that and the behavior of Arias Truman, right,
who's going to integrate the armed services by executive
order. And after World War Two, you see that in the 1948
Democratic Convention, then Senator Hubert Humphrey from
Minnesota gets up and says it's time for us to walk out of the
shadows states rights into the bright sunshine of civil rights.
At the same time, the Republican Party is struggling with its
history of emancipation and civil rights. You get someone
like Dwight Eisenhower, who says that integration desegregation
should go slow.
Okay, that was 48.
Yes. So there's two things that they attributed to, as of right
now pre civil rights that have made blacks majority Democrats,
one being the the New Deal, FERS New Deal, right. And then the
integration of the armed services during World War Two.
Got it? Those are the two things pre Civil War. So and then they
say with the Eisenhower, he said that integration needs to go
slow. Yeah. Which I've discussed this before on my show, I am not
a fan of forced integration. Oh, and governmental or schools or
things that nature?
And I don't, I think historically, that's turned out
not to be a super
great idea. No, and I do speak personally. My dad had to leave
all black school in his senior year, and was forced to go to
integrated school. And he hated the surprise. Yeah. So forced
and not taken up for Eisenhower. I'm just saying. That is I think
that's more popular belief or more popular sentiment that
people want to let on when you use 2020 hindsight vision. Yeah,
well,
we learned a bit about that, in regards to Kamala Harris
bringing that up against Joe Biden. So I think people are a
lot more aware than than they were.
Yeah. And that's This is one of the benefits of the information
age that we previously talked about the beginning of the show.
So majority three,
that sort of personifies some of this movement of the Republican
Party away from its traditional belief in civil rights and
extending rights to African Americans, especially by by the
mid 1960s. You get Lyndon Johnson who's going to take the
lead on civil rights act 1964 Voting Rights Act of 1965. And
by that point, the ship is cooked right. The Republican
Party opposes it standard bearer Barry Goldwater oppose 1964. He
calls it a piece of communistic legislation. At that point. I
think the door closes right at that point. African Americans
who are politically active or are Democrats
this the switch? Yeah, that is switching parties. Yeah. Yeah,
go ahead.
Well, I've never heard it explained like this. So I'm kind
of trying to process it because this is the whole you know, what
happened? Well, you've you here, you know, how this switch
happened? What who switched? Was it the voters who left or did
the party switch? You know, it's it's very murky way it's
explained in verted explained many different ways. Not exactly
like this, though. Well, this
is the left democratic explanation for why black voters
vote Democrat and they, they kind of they didn't use the term
Southern strategy. But as you always know, I always like to
counterbalance Yes, Amy narrative with a man with a
narrative or a at least explanation from the opposite
side. So then we can go down the middle and kind of find where
the where the truth really is. Right. So I went over to Prager,
you.
That's a good one, to go to
one of our right leaning, go to sources. And Miss Carol Swain.
Miss Carol Swain. Let me look up her information here is a
professor, she is a professor of political science at Vanderbilt
University. And she's a black lady. So be understand, just
hold it into thought, as we get her to explain the Southern
strategy.
Once upon a time, every student of history. And that meant
pretty much everyone with a high school education knew this. The
Democratic Party was the party of slavery and Jim Crow. And the
Republican Party was the party of emancipation and racial
integration. Democrats were the Confederacy and Republicans were
the union. Jim Crow, Democrats were dominant in the south, and
socially tolerant Republicans were dominant in the north. But
then, in the 1960s, and 70s. Everything supposedly flipped.
Suddenly, the Republicans became the racist, and the Democrats
became the champions of civil rights, fabricated by left
leaning academic elites and journalists, the story went like
this. Republicans couldn't win a national election by appealing
to the better nature of the country, they could only win by
appealing to the worse attributed to Richard Nixon, the
media's all purpose bad guy. This came to be known as the
Southern strategy.
You know, sometimes I think, because it's just not, it's just
not clearly laid out how this happened. I think that when they
when they killed Kennedy, the trauma was so great that there's
like a, like a collective memory whole, kind of around that
period, when done with Johnson and everything is just like,
like, okay, here we are. This is this is how the dust is cleared,
where the Democrats were your friends.
And they rewrote Johnson in history for who we actually was
when we think several of our listeners and maybe you have
heard the Johnson tapes. Oh, yeah, he was not
racist. The guy's super racist. He was saying
he wasn't the civil rights and civil rights freedom fighter
that they paid him out to be, especially in his HBO movie they
made Yeah. Oh my God. They made him out to be like a douche. It
was total dick. All right. Yeah. So so what we're going to do is,
as you pointed out, they brushed over this thing called a
Southern strategy, and it's just wildly accepted as truth. Well,
Miss Carroll Swain. She's going to break down the myth or myths
of the Southern Southern strategy.
It was very simple, win elections by winning the south
and to win the south appeal to racists. So the Republicans, the
party of Lincoln, were to now be labeled the party of rednecks.
But this story of the two parties switching identities is
a myth. In fact, it's three myths wrapped into one false
narrative. Let's take a brief look at each myth in turn. Myth
number one, in order to be competitive in the south,
Republicans started to pander to white racists in the 1960s.
Fact, Republicans actually became competitive in the South
as early as 1928. One Republican Herbert Hoover, won over 47% of
the South's popular vote against Democrat Al Smith.
Yes,
I think I've seen This whole Carol Swain bit, I think it's
very familiar to me. So yeah, this sounds right. And I
remember looking this up in reliable places like Wikipedia
confer confirming.
But this goes to show you that there's a counter narrative to
what was widely accepted course. And this goes to explain why
millennials, some not being, quote, some actually being more
conservative. Yeah. This is more am an ammunition for people to
say, hey, wait a minute. When I'm talking to my dad, I mean,
we're gonna use this analogy of me talking to my dad because
I'm, I think I'm borderline millennial and Gen X, or I'm not
sure where that cutoff is. But I'm not a boomer. But I'm a non
Boomer. My dad's a boomer. So when we have these
conversations, I'm like, Hey, Dad, and he'll break out the
Southern strategy, right? And I'll be like, I'll top your
Southern strategy with Miss Carol Swain, how black southern
lady, that's the boomer. So it works out. It works out great,
because now I have this information to you know,
enlighten him. That how'd
that go? How's that go over when you do that to your dad? What's
the workout? Great?
Yeah. Well, he's gonna vote regardless. Yeah, he's gonna
vote. So yeah, so and that's, once again, this is why Biden's
numbers are so strong, because they don't want to hear it. This
is what we've done the exact this is what we've done. And
this is what we're going to do. But for people out there, we're
gonna break down the myths for you. And let's go into Myth
number two.
Myth number two Southern Democrats angry with the Civil
Rights Act of 1964. switch parties. Fact, of the 21
Democratic senators who oppose the Civil Rights Act, just one
became a Republican. The other 20 continued to be elected as
Democrats, or were replaced by other Democrats. On average,
those 20 seats didn't go Republican. For another two and
a half decades.
Yep. Yeah. Yeah, I have seen this. And she has a graphic with
that makes it even clearer when you see it.
Yeah, it's undeniable. So how's that workout? Where was it swap?
Where was this? Where was this flip? It's in the,
it's in the book mash.
It didn't exist now. But we all know, when you say something
long enough. It'll just be accepted as truth. And it's kind
of hard to break that condition. And
it's really astounding, because I know that I went after the
story for about a month or six weeks or no agenda. And you
know, and I got so many different versions of the switch
that people had heard and confirmation that yes, you know,
this, because I played pieces of this Prager, you bit. And I'm
like, oh, yeah, that's what I heard. But now that I hear this
is something completely different. This is this is snuck
into history. And it's a rewrite. It really has been
rewritten in in different ways. But the result is the same a
switch.
And what she used she's using cold hard numbers. You can't
beat numbers, but people would just write it off like
yeah, whatever she's compromised conspiracy theory. Crazy
religious, Republican, Trump.
All those all the above. She's, she's lost her mind. Yeah.
Alright, let's just for poops and giggles. Let's listen to
Miss Carol Swain and the third myth. Myth number
three. Since the implementation of the Southern strategy, the
Republicans have dominated the south by Act, which it makes him
the man who is often credited with creating the Southern
Strategy lost the deep south in 1968. In contrast, Democrat
Jimmy Carter nearly swept the region in 1976 12 years after
the Civil Rights Act of 1964. And in 1992, over 28 years
later, Democrat Bill Clinton won Georgia, Louisiana, Arkansas,
Tennessee, Kentucky and West Virginia. The truth is,
Republicans didn't hold a majority of southern
congressional seats until 1994 30 years after the Civil
Rights Act. Yeah,
yep, that's right. That's the facts. But I mean, as we know
matters, but it's our duty. To have our due diligence. We have
to counterbalance the narrative And there you have it, and
anybody who wants to use this information at any family
function, have at it.
Gasby Yes, we feel that weddings are very appropriate for this,
this is a good time to break it out. And you just have a
headphone hit listen to these guys, and then just queue up
that bit. It'll fantastic guaranteed fun.
So, but at the time that this was going on, there was somebody
calling myths of hypocrisy out. And it was one of my favorites,
Mr. Malcolm X. And one of his one of I think one of the
greatest speeches, even over this is my personal opinion,
even over I have a dream. And this was the ballot and the
bullet speech.
The political philosophy of black nationalism only means
that the black man should control the politics and the
politicians in his own community. When white people can
come in community, and get us to vote for them, so that they can
be our political leaders and tell us what to do and what not
to do is long gone.
By the same token, the time when that same white man, knowing
that your eyes are too far open, consider another Navy role into
the community to support him so he can use him.
Oh, really, they came back for a bit there.
Doesn't this are eerily like the times we're in right now?
No kidding. No kidding, MO. And this is what year was this? The
speech 1964 60 forces.
This isn't what after he left. Let me get the information on
this speech. This was after he left the Nation of Islam. In
1964. April 12. He gave this speech at the King Solomon
Baptist Church in Detroit, Michigan. But he even he even
basically pointed out to Boulais Oh, yeah. In there, because he
said for the people to even have their eyes open. They're going
to sin leaders that look like us. Yeah, get your vote. So I
mean, hello, Barry. Quite clear. Yeah, he was quite clear. That
even real time people were aware of what was going on. Right,
what was going on? And that's why I followed up this Miss
Carol Swain with this set of clips because people like oh,
that's a rewrite of history. She's cherry picking history.
Well, we have one of the most renowned black leaders refuting
refuting it. Yes. So let's let's let's let them continue ballot
or the bullet two.
We must, we must understand the politics. And we must know we
must know what politics play in our lives. Until we become
politically mature, we will always be misled and led astray
or deceived or maneuvered into supporting someone politically,
who doesn't have the good of our community and so the political
philosophy of nationalism only means that we will have to carry
on a program a political program of re education to open up
people's eyes make us become more politically conscious
politically mature whenever we get ready to cast our ballots,
that ballot will be class will be cast for a man of the
community to have the good of the community
is scary. If you were to publish these words, right now and 2020
is like he's like it's the same right? We're at the same
Crossroads well,
it it's a fractal and in an in a very interesting nice way you
are you are a part of that fractal mo so this is this is a
good thing. It's a beautiful thing to see really.
Cuz I knew of this speech, I mean, I've heard it numerous
times, but just to hear it and like now Want to hear right now?
Yeah, it's like he could be. He could be talking about what's
going on right and right now, and it's just so it's wonderful
at one way. And another way. It's just that, wow, it took
this long. Like, it's
like, because this is 55 years because I was born in 1964.
Yeah. Shit. I'm part of the fractal to UI.
It's 55 years. For us to get to the maturing point. Yeah.
But that Well, congratulations on all facts. How does it feel
now that you're politically mature? It feels
great. Feels great. Effort. Exactly. But, but it does feel
great, because what we see here is the internet. Yep. The, the
one of the greatest inventions of all time, the internet has
defeated the propaganda machine that has kept down people in all
walks of life at all, you know, we can go back and pull data and
pull clips and put it together and actually find what the truth
was. So I'm just gonna let him continue. I mean, he's on a roll
right now. So
this government has failed government itself. Liberals who
have been posing as our friends. Once we see that all these other
sources to which we turn, we stopped turning to them and turn
to ourselves. We need a self help program. Do it, do it
yourself. I do it right now. The only time the only way we're
going to solve our problems is with a self help program. Before
we can get a self help program started, we have to have a self
help philosophy.
I'm so happy that this particular recording exists
because a lot of the recordings of Martin Luther King suck. And
this is this is nice. I mean, the audio is good. And of
course, it's got its scratchiness, but you can really
hear him incredibly well. And again, everything he said here,
I mean, mine has been in my journal called himself, Malcolm
Malcolm mo facts.
And the funny thing is, is that the meme that I was telling you
about before that I've seen conservatives post of Malcolm X
talking about liberals. Right, right. I've mentioned it several
times in the show, but that is the one but also talking about
so so
let me just say in this in this speech, where he says the
conservative doesn't give a crap about you anyway. Either.
Way, hey, no, no, no. We're just gonna clip it down to where he's
talking about the liberals. Oh. That's how memes work. Let me
come on. Gotcha. I'm with you. I'm working with you. cherry
pick the cherry picker to use against the liberals. But it's
weird because I was like what? Like, you know, hardcore
conservatives are using Malcolm X who thought that in the
20th 21st century?
Well, I know when I when I was growing up. There used to be
Malcolm X t shirts. You don't see those anymore.
I will say this. And I don't wanna get too far off cutting
out I'm saying it has been disgusting. What a few active
members of the Black academia has done to the name of Malcolm
X. One being Mr. Michael Eric Dyson. Disgusting. And I'll just
leave it at that. He was saying people can go look up for
yourself. They when you are the Boulais Yeah, everything is fair
game to tear down if it's harmful to the people that
you're protecting now, and I'll just leave it there, but it's
just disgusting. Well,
we're bookmarking it because in 2020, we got to come back
to that. Yes, I will come back to the our will. And maybe
sooner than then thought. But I think we left off it three to
four. Yep. Four.
Why is America why does this loom to be such an explosive
political year? Because this is the era of politics. This is the
year when all of the white politicians are going to come
into the negro community. You've never seen them until the
election. You can't blame them. They're going to come in with
false promises. And as they make these false promises, they're
going to feed our frustrations. And this will only serve to make
matters worse. I'm no politician. I'm not even a
student of politics. I'm not a Republican nor Democrat, not an
American and
what did he say at the
end? They're not American.
I'm not a Republican. I'm not Democrat. I'm not American.
American have sis nothing. No. And what he means by that is
he's not recognize Oh, I
totally understand what he means. Yeah.
I'm explaining for people that you know,
I'm sorry, I will say it again because I interrupted you, ya
know what?
He's not accepted into the American dream into the fabric
of the constitution. So he's like, I'm, I'm, what would you
have to do is put that in context of, of course, Dr. King,
and I have a dream and even though civil rights movement,
he's like, No, don't be fooled. Right? To think you're you're
only being used because you can activate the vote even back then
it was activated. Yeah. So um, bullet 520 2 million
black victims of Americanism by waking up and gaining a new
political consciousness, becoming politically mature. And
as they become develop this political maturity, they're able
to see the recent trends in these political elections, they
see that the whites are so evenly divided that every time
they vote, the race is so close, they have to go back and count
the votes all over again. Which means that any block, any
minority that has a block of votes that stick together is in
a strategic position. Either way, you you're in a position to
determine who goes to the White House and who will stay in the
doghouse. You're the one who has,
here's what Trump should do if I was advising him to use that
line. You want to be in the White House, you want to be in
the dog house. What a great one that would be to resurrect.
This is the block the course this is the
glow, right? It's the origination of the block sure
that we have so much power right now because the country is so
evenly divided. That this, this is one time with the monolith of
the block or whatever you want to call it is valuable. Because
we can move in one direction or the other. It'll be noticed.
It'll know the way the country goes or our vote goes is I'm
talking about 2020 Here. However, our vote goals are
don't go because we have to talk about the negative vote again.
Republicans just need us to stay at home. They don't need us to
come and vote. And to go back a few clips ago they were saying
that the Trump campaign is putting out information targeted
information on Facebook and barbershops. This message is
getting around.
So you need to Weymouth so Trump is is campaigning with flyers in
barber shops. Is that was that what you
said? I don't know. I don't know how that goes. I haven't seen a
Trump flyer in a barber shop but but they're reaching out. Right?
Because that's that's the political form. I wanted to
major political forms in the black barbershop. Yeah, it's the
barbershop I mean any any community but
Whoa, I've seen Eddie Murphy movies. Okay. Yeah. I get it I
get I could be your Arsenio
so people don't think about 1964. When you hear these clips,
think about writing about 2020. Think about right now what he's
saying. And bullet six.
You're the one who sent Kennedy to Washington. You're the one
who put the president Democratic administration in Washington DC.
The Wake were evenly divided. It was the fact that you through a
percent of your votes behind the Democrats that put the Democrats
in the White House. When you see this, you can see that the Negro
bill is a key factor in despite the fact that you are in a
position to to be the determining factor. What do you
get out of it? The Democrats have been in Washington DC, only
because of the negros they've been down there for years. And
they're all other legislation they wanted to bring up they
brought it up and get it out of the way and now they bring up
you You You put them first and they put you
chump. Fantastic. Now against spotter spotter spotter.
And but this could be about 2008 to 2010. Yep. When we got Brock
in office gave gave him all the votes he needed to pass any
legislation from those two year period. They got everything
Obamacare and everything else they won't pass with nothing no
Trump but nothing.
Trump's you got Trump. And next you got Trump. See you gotta get
again, I'm writing the campaign for him. Some I got some I call
Mr. Curry Oh, political consultancy,
consulting. Yeah. So I'm just the counter Mr. Malcolm, and
explain how some people that I often agree with I don't agree
with on their stance on voting is Mr. Warm, nearly Fuller, and
we've played his clips before, he was so gracious to us to
define what white supremacy was on previous shows. But I want
him to explain he's gonna explain voting with the slave
ship analogy.
It leads to some constructive things and a whole lot of non
constructive things. But when you consider the alternative,
use the slave ship analogy. If you're at the bottom of the
slave ship, you know Yana slave ship. But every now and then
some second lieutenants, who is the slave master of the slave
ship? Some person who is not the captain maybe comes down the
ladder and say, well, the captain doesn't speak favorably
of any of you people. After all, this is a slave ship. But I go
with him about giving you a little more corn bread than you
usually get. So I'm going to try to get it for you. I mean, if
you just bear with me, and try to cooperate and don't rally or
change too much down here, disturbing my sleep. So if
you're to just kind of keep quiet, see through it, the
durations are increased.
Yeah, sounds about right.
And this is why I have the utmost respect for nearly
Fuller, but this is why I disagree. He's in the mindset,
well, a little bit more cornbread is better than the
little piece of cornbread that we did have,
right? But he's also a boomer. So he
is different. But I rather keep his analogy, keep rattling my
chains. Yeah, he's
got some good ones in there. Right? I
keep I rather me personally, rather keep rattling in my
chains than to be bought off for another little few more crumbs.
Because I understand the power that was laid out in the clips
by Malcolm X. Right. It's there's real power, political
power there is just that we and that's the best never realized.
And that's
the best enslavement is when you I mean, in general, all
Americans, collectively, we have incredible power, we are much
more powerful than the government. But when we do, but
when you don't know it when you've been taught not to think
that way. When you're told that the people you elect are your
leaders. That's one of my personal pet peeves, like come
on. My leader. It's my employee. You know, but that's that's been
programmed for years and years and years. Thank God for
podcasting.
All right, so we've talked about why black people have voted
Democratic for the Democrats. Close out I want to talk about
why black people have not voted for the Republicans. And to do
that. I want to use one of our show favorites, Mr. Stephen A.
Smith.
Stephen A said that every black person in America should vote
Republican for at least one election. Stephen A Smith is
joining me now Steven, who are you trying to send a message to
Republicans, Democrats, African Americans, all of the above?
I'd go with all of the above that sounds about right, but
specifically the Democratic Party from the standpoint that I
definitely believe that the black vote has been taken for
granted. And primarily the black community is at fault in my
estimation, in that regard, simply because on one hand,
we're giving one party I vote because they've successfully
gone about the business of convincing our community that
the other party, the Republican Party is completely against the
interests of the black community. And as a result,
we've been very transparent. And I support, we've bought it hook,
line and sinker, we look at the Republican Party, I'm not
talking about every single one of us, of course, but vast
majority of black Americans look at the Republican Party as the
enemy, we look at the Democratic Party, who even tacitly has our
support base. And as a result, we are very transparent in our
support for them. So because of it, they have a license to take
us for granted. The Republican Party has a light to our license
to summarily dismiss us because they believe they'll never get
our vote anyway. And then we end up finding ourselves devoid of
any kind of representation whatsoever, because nobody is
really competing to garner our vote and our support.
Well, that is very clear.
I thought he laid it out quite clear, while we vote Democratic
CLI or Democrat for the Democrats, and while we don't
vote for Republicans, I can't say it any better myself. But of
course, he had to go back. Oh, I had to recant his statements,
because as he
did, excuse me, has got a little level of meaning out here in the
corner office. Talk to you about what you said.
Steven, can we talk to you in the office for a minute? And
what he really wanted to say would don't vote. I think what
you had to vote but you had, they got to keep you voting? I
think not voting is even saying to vote for the other party. Let
me tell you, it's less dangerous. You could
not go on a mainstream television program and say, I
recommend people not vote. Immediately everyone will be
uber patriot. How can you say that? This is the worst thing in
the world. I can no one could say it. Nobody can say that on
mainstream television. Ever.
And let's let's not forget that got Mr. Kaepernick canceled.
That's right. Temporarily. You go by by Mr. Stephen A Smith.
Yeah, you so he was like, Okay, we need to go the other
direction. But then he, you know, he had to come in and
remind everybody that he was a black man. Okay, so good.
Thank God. I forgot. Yeah.
Yeah, it is. So, um, to close out the show, I have some clips
from a YouTube channel called Black public media. And this
video was entitled black folks don't vote Republican.
By one point. Black folks did vote Republican people like Zora
Neale Hurston, for instance, you
know, at the time of the Emancipation Proclamation,
Abraham Lincoln was Republican Franklin
Delano Roosevelt ushered in shifts around how black people
voted from the Republican party to the Democratic Party.
And then the father, the Tea Party came along, you know, was
Barry Goldwater, and presented his whole extreme conservativism
idea, and I think he's sort of steered us away.
Also, the Republican community has done a poor job of reaching
out to the black community and helping us understand their
values as they have progressed over time. So we just kind of
used to voting. Mom was Democrat, Dad was Democrat, I'm
a Democrat.
I'm a Democrat. They talk about the middle class, or they don't
ask you to pull yourself up by your own bootstraps. When you
don't have boots. Democrats
seem to want to share the wealth. You know, Republicans
like now it's mine. I work for this shit. This is mine.
How old are these fine people?
It was a various different ages, but most of them were maybe late
mid 30s to late 40s. But one person said in that video, mom's
Democrat dad and Democrat I'm a Democrat. I'm a Democrat. Yep.
Alright, so and they even acknowledge that black folks
started voting Republican but that the that you can hear it
didn't explicitly say it but you can hear the Southern Strategy
Oh, yeah. mentality. Oh, yeah. It's
in there for sure. It was it was
in there. I mean, they were just oh, it just something happened
is miraculous, which
I'm telling you Kennedy assassination. memory hole.
That's, that's a fascinating, fascinating observation. And I
liken that to maybe a 911 the same way Oh, trauma, trauma, the
trauma. Everything else is a blur after that. I mean, because
you can't even remember like, we a lot of stuff you think you
think and TV clips. Exactly. But when you actually try to
remember it. Yeah. It's really a blur. So the final clip Have we
have black folks don't vote Republican to black folks don't
vote Republican.
For the last part, probably not
in droves.
I thankfully don't have any friends or family members that
wouldn't vote Republican that I know of. If they are, they're
closeted Republicans.
I honestly feel like there's a secret society of Black
Republican voters somewhere. I don't know who they are. They're
not in this like one of my family. I won't put her out
there like that. But
think about the Ben Carson's of the world and Michael Steel's of
the world and what I've accepted, is it any idea that
comes out that's created by human beings, we're always going
to find someone to believe in it.
Now, the black people that vote Republican, tend to be a little
cray cray
black vote, don't vote Republican because we don't
trust whitey.
Okay, that's pretty clear that the programming is working mo
gram. Is it successful? They're closing it. Yeah, imagine to
say, because our vote is political way. You're closeted,
man. And the time we live in where everybody's accepted, you
know?
Intersectionality Yep, share.
Craig Craig. You have to be Craig Craig. I'm Republican.
And I'm not calling her out.
out I'm not going to call it for beer. And that To summarize,
well, either you have to vote. You have to vote
let me just let me just tell you something from from cracker
nation over here. I was at the hair salon that is believe it or
not mo political conversation takes place in the hair salon. A
just like the barber shop, except my hair salon is filled
with women. And okay. And I know the woman who does my hair. We
talk politics you know, we're not on the same page but we both
agreed that she's very she sees the show. So a woman next to us
overhears it without really being prompted she just steps he
said oh my god. Let me just I don't know I don't know where
you stand politically but one of my clients he said if I had
stage four cancer I'd get a gun and go kill them motherfucker.
So this kind of idiocy is everywhere across all lines and
boundaries
in barbarous making people sick
and it's making me very sick various makes
people sick. And I'll make this my last statement. We we lost a
large economy a Cummings a few maybe a few months ago a month
ago. And we heard the tragic news. Yes about his name slips
my mind now. He has pancreatic doppelganger. What's his name?
Oh, you this is you shouldn't have done this. Lewis Lewis
Lewis. Lewis, John Lewis, John Lewis. Damn. So it was only a
shell. But you don't have to remember that. It's not
important.
But I want to point out that people are being getting sick.
Exactly. Exactly. Stage four pancreatic cancer
this that they're seeking to Congressman that may have been
heavy anti Trump errs,
have calling him a racist, calling him a racist dad. And
the other one is, has a severe, severe illness. And how many
other talk media people have been announced. So you
know, this is so interesting. I've been talking about this
being unhealthy for so long. And I and you just brought it up
again. And I think that we are now into year four of of this.
And it's I think identified early on, certainly people who
hate Trump when no matter what their political affiliation.
They started swearing and cussing more on TV and radio and
podcasts. Just Yes. And it's popping out and it's like, ooh,
ah, and it's become a little more okay. And, and I always saw
that as incredible. If you can't hold that back in a in a
situation where it's not appropriate on the show. It's
appropriate, you know, we don't overuse anything. But on
television, cable news is not appropriate. And when you can't
hold that in it, then you've got stuff rooted very deeply. And
when you hold that in, and you're holding that for years, I
think you and I'm going to keep track of this, too. People are
going to start dropping, it's these old guys first. And they
can see the young with aging, you can see them aging right
before your eyes. And the reason why I'm bringing this up is the
V for V, the value for value, even if you think we're two
idiots this babbling along, what we try to do is this. We laugh,
you know, we, we want to talk people down off the ledge, well,
well get providing some educational value. So if you
don't take anything away from the show, too, but to laugh
about the things that we talk about, or do, you know, just
have a little fun for a couple hours? You know, that's the
value that I hope that we provide, if nothing else, if you
don't take anything else away from the show.
And what we'd like to ask for in return is that you consider
returning some of that value is actually a very simple exercise.
So like, shall you've been listening to this for about an
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that? If you go see a movie, it's about we're about the
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website. And Mo, I think you've set everybody up for perfect
2020. I'd like to ask you one question before we go having
having Sure. No, I haven't gone through this journey with you.
Do you think this is the year that the block regardless of
what happens? The black block B to B squared? realizes realizes
what power it has? Will the is this realization going to be
mainstream enough?
I think it only takes a certain percentage. And then the rest of
the block blocker follows. So we are saying that is if you can
get 20 to 25% to realize it, then the rest will go along. And
that's very and I think we're reaching that nexus point of
because you're hearing the different groups have these
conversations you're hearing it come from the the conservative
side, the super woke millennial side of the the I'm not going to
vote unless I get some tangible side, which I wish I'm a part
of. We're all coming to the same point from different angles. And
I think once we get there and we see the results of it,
somebody's gonna have to come talk to us.
Yeah, and I think for me, for me, it'll be interesting to see
not whether you'll see a block vote for Democrats or with
withheld vote. I think I think we may even see withheld vote,
or something goes to Trump. I think that's where it may be.
Because if we hit that
55% mark of the low all time low 50 55% Mark is Open Season for
the blog. Now could I entertain? Can I make one suggestion? Sure.
Instead of withholding I mean, the tangible is a free pony from
the guy with the Buddha on his head vermin supreme. Right?
Because he's promising everybody a pony. That may be maybe it's a
tangible that may be a guy to vote for. I have voted for him
in the past. So I just like you to consider that. Who is this
guy? You've never heard of vermin supreme? No, he's a real
candidate. He wears some boots on his head and promises
everybody a pony. He runs every year. He's a great candidate to
vote for.
Well, he thought 40 acres and with a pony he might have.
Alright, everybody have a have a great, a great New Year Mo was
fantastic. This show has made my year. Fantastic. I love the work
you do. I love working with you. And I can't wait until our next
show and 2020
show 20 The first show of 2020 just let that soak in. And as I
always say, pay attention to everything and the truth will
reveal itself.
I'll talk to you next year. Mo Alright, see you next year.
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