More facts with Adam curry for December 2 2019. This is episode
number 17. And I'm met in the dark are you doing I noticed?
Yeah, I'm good. You've kept me in the dark.
Yeah, this is one of the cases where we I didn't share with you
what the show topic was gonna be for a reason because I want your
gut reaction to something so,
okay. Well, that's always exciting. If you get a gut
reaction, you never know what can happen. Which of course is
one of the beautiful things of this show is where we really
don't discuss too much ahead of time. Maybe you'll give me a
topic or maybe I'll shoot you a couple of things that are
interesting to talk about. But we just kind of freewheel it
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on the air Yeah, well where do we go mo where do we start?
I guess we can get right into it. quaintest lamb trailer
Can I ask you something? What took you so long to respond to
me I sent you a very well crafted message freebies and
today out of the blue you hit me up asking if you want to grab
them
I don't feel like being alone. Not tonight Can
you turn to tender to where I was tonight did you think we
were gonna have six thought we're gonna hang out maybe get
to know each field executors single vector for Nash you step
out of a vehicle for me please hurry up it's just cold enough
for myself guilty who self defense of black money
you don't have to make sure they don't know where we are. This
year's Kentucky my friend before going out there and he welcomed
us into our home.
Gave us on a believer Black Panthers Wow. Now this is a
movie trailer that completely passed me by no idea. No idea
with I don't even know a lot about movies in general. I have
no idea what this is about.
Alright, so this is queen and Slim is a universal pitcher's
project. It was. Let me see it was released over the weekend on
the 27th in the United States. And it was written by Miss Lena
wave and directed by Melina Mata Matt. So it's a caucus. So it's
one of the lightest and I have to give credit and I'm not being
a hater here. But I guess not what we do. But it's one of the
finest piece of trauma based entertainment propaganda.
When I heard the trailer all I could think of was trauma trauma
entertainment trauma based entertainment. Okay, yes do
Yeah, so this on the show, we only address things that bleed
over into political social political topics. So on the
socials, this has been the greatest the latest and greatest
asset use word game piece of propaganda. People are always
the greatest thing since sliced bread or you have to see this
movie. And when I see that, that's how it became. Well, I
saw the trailer seven months ago. It's almost like seven
months out you see a trailer especially being a black film,
you know that Hollywood is pushing it pushing it pushing it
Yeah, okay. Yeah, cuz that's that's that's a long way out to
start off promo,
like Star Wars type timeline. Correct. And
so the reason why I kept this under wraps is I guess you gave
it to me, but what did you take away from that trailer?
Well, there was a lot going on first time I heard it, but it
sounds like this is something with the cops killing black
people. That's what it sounded like. To me not having seen
anything not having looked it up just listening, just hanging out
with Moe and like oh yeah, okay, I get it. I know what kind of
film this is. So yeah,
but in this case the rabbit got the gun. I use that term on that
term where? Well, let's get into brand new Avery, a movie critic
explaining the plot. But what
is this movie queen and slim about exactly? Well, slim and
queens first dates takes an unexpected turn when a policeman
pulls them over for our minor traffic violation. When the
situation escalates, slim takes the officers gun and shoots them
in self defense. Now labeled cop killers in the media, slim and
Queen feel that they have no choice but to go on the run and
invade the law. When a video of the incident goes viral. The
unwitting outlaw soon become a symbol of trauma, terror, grief
and pain for all people across the country.
Brother one of these this is what you said universal?
Yes, this is universal. And this is the same movie house that
gave was Harriet.
Ah, okay. Yes, gotcha. Harry, which of course was was no good.
It was no good at all.
It was no good. No, that's completely wrong. Everything was
off wrong actress No, no, no, no.
And when I say no good, I want to make make a couple of things
clear. These people that make these movies are very talented.
The viewpoint when I say no good is the effects that the people
that hire them to make these movies, the outcome they expect
from them. That's why I say no good because they these people
are, they are talented, obvious directors and writers. And so
it's not hate. And I know a lot of people are rolling their eyes
right now. But I want to remind, let me say this about our
audience. We have a very intelligent on the audience that
understands the nuanced conversation. But for some
people that may just be coming in, and they're rolling eyes it
think that I'm just being
wave mo Did you get some pushback over Thanksgiving with
the family in town and so people start moaning at you?
Oh, no, but I know what to expect when you got the
propaganda pieces. These knee jerk reaction. Yeah. And I want
to remind people that I am a black man.
Oh, that's right. We almost forgot. Okay, good. And I am a
white man. Hello. Welcome to no facts with Adam curry.
Right, so. So, as the man said in the trailer, it's about
trauma. As I've said, it's about trauma. So I felt this
interesting clip about the movie. You were never really
here with, I think Joaquin Phoenix. Yes. And they had a
very interesting take on how movies capture and portray
trauma.
I want you to listen to something. The sound of
fireworks. Let's take away the lights. For now. The sound seems
pretty normal and familiar. But after hearing it for a while,
the sporadic bursts and crackling combustions begin to
form an invisible nuisance. What if I asked you to listen to this
for an hour, a day or a week? Everywhere you went to? And even
when you had to go to sleep? Forced to even find it in your
dreams? It would become unbearable and exhausting. How
would you be able to go about your day, your normal tasks and
interactions would be greatly affected? It says if you're
living in a disorienting reality apart from everyone else, always
on edge at the mercy of the next destabilising pop, hoping for a
moment of silence. While preparing to make the film you
are never really here. Director Lynn Ramsay gave a recording of
fireworks to Joaquin Phoenix to prepare him for his role. It's
an interesting way to introduce someone to the mindset of a
person afflicted by a traumatic event. Trauma is a relentless
and constant assailant that can intrude in all aspects of a
person's life. It's an invisible aggressor with the power of
reminding you that it can break you whenever it wants. And that
even time as difficulty of silencing it.
You know, when I listened to that, if you just add some drugs
to it, you've got a perfect MK Ultra program.
And they said traumas the perfect assailant that it can
strike at any time. And what these films do, are set out to
do and I'm going to prove my case is to reaffirm that trauma
and to bring it I keep keep keep it's like update to the
firmware. You know, we gotta keep them in a state of trauma
at all times.
Okay, so hold on a second. What I understand now is the way this
the path of this particular episode is everybody's
traumatized one way or the other, in particular from
mainstream media. There's different types of it. Some are
targeted, some are general, some everybody has, there's some very
specific ones to groups. And what we're going to do here is
we're going to update everybody's firmware to clear
out their brains
knows to update the victimization mentality in
quote, unquote, black people, no, okay. So that's why you have
the slave movies and the slave movies have really run its
course because people have gotten aware of what they want
to do with the slave movie. So now they have to, they have to
do a pivot to a new type of traumatization.
So the so the slavery the koonta, Kente is no longer
triggering the way it used to. Now we've got to do something a
little more updated.
Yes, because people that are aware, you don't get the same
crowd. So now you have to get, you know, give the crowd
something new with the same memes and tropes. But um, yeah,
so that's, that's, that's what we're seeing in Hollywood right
now. Like I said, throughout this episode, throughout this
episode, I will prove my case. But one of the things just on
the surface level, is that the main characters in this movie as
well as in Harriet, are not a das actors.
Okay, and is that important for this particular movie? Could it
just be anyone who's brown, black, off white color, etc? Or
is it specific to the storyline?
Well, I question why do they use not a DOS actors? Is it because
you want to are you replacing us? Are you you don't want the
actors to be traumatized on set, where a not a nice person, they
might not have the same triggers. I mean, it's several
different reasons why, or perhaps
they they did a casting and they thought these actors were best
suited for the role with their experience, their acting skills
and their overall looks.
This can be true as well. But when you start to see 23456 data
points of eight off Das, foundational blacks, whatever
you want it whatever you want to do native blacks, that's the
term we chose to use on this show. When you start to see
those being replaced by non native black actors get to ask
what's going on?
It does get your attention. And by the way, I've tried out
native blacks with white friends of mine doesn't go over well.
I'm sure it doesn't hugely triggering.
If I add on to it, hey, my best friend Moe was black. And he
told me to say that this just the hole gets deeper. It's
worse.
Yeah, shut up.
Okay, I'm a baby. Boom. Exactly.
So this is a surface level and it's not really important to
this movie, but I'm just bringing it up in just try I'm
sure sure stating a trend that we're seeing here. So Brenda
Avery, he makes note of the same thing I've identified.
And of course, guys, you know, from the trailers and all the
promotions and marketing that this star has done your Kalia
who was in get out. He was also some cardio. He was also in
widows and I did not like that movie. And I did not like his
performance in widows as well. But I thought he did a great job
and get out. And a newcomer that I've never heard of before
George Jodie Turner Smith. She's done a lot of television. She's
a British actor, as well as Mr. Daniel Kalia, who also was in
Black Panther as well Combi I forgot to mention that and you
know, those are two main leaves. And you know, when I first saw
the trailer for this movie, my expectations were mediocre. I
mean, it looked good. I did a reaction to it. You can, you
know, go check that out on my channel. But at the same time, I
just wasn't too thrilled with it. Because you know, while the
sinners onto black American characters, you know, I was just
a bit disappointed because if you know me if it is a black
American character, I want that as rows fulfilled by actual
black American actors
and actresses. And who was Brandon Avery because I couldn't
find them very quickly.
Oh, Bret. Brandon. Avi, he's a YouTube movie critic. He has a
pretty sizable channel think it's just my opinion, I want to
say is his name or his channel right offhand, but if you search
brand name, you will find him he does a lot of movie critiques,
especially being black films. So good. That's that's where we
are. So I'm not the only person that recognize that. A das
foundational blacks actors me roles were being filled by
British Actors a couple years ago 70 Oh, Jackson made the same
observation thing in
my mind is, I know that young brothers in the movie, and he's
British. So there are a lot of British black British actors
that work all the time. So, I tend to wonder, what would that
movie have been with an American brother who really feel fans
that in a way, cuz I mean, Daniel grew up in a country
where, you know, they've been interracial dating for 100
years, you know, and I'm sure the director helped. And, you
know, some things are universal, but everything a That's right,
you know, which was one of the things about you know, about
Selma and some other things I go, Well, you know, that's some
brothers from America that could have been in that movie, too.
But, uh, you know, had a different idea about how that
works, or about how King thinks about is that
casting thing where you get the British black actor versus the
American black actor to play the black? What is that that cheapen
in us one
day? All right, I have to say one other thing. When it comes
to choosing black British actors over black American actors, this
pisses me off to the British Invasion, in general, I'm a
little tired of. And it's true, they do have a different rate
scale. There's a whole bunch of other reasons why Hollywood
loves them. But Hollywood also is just completely biased
towards the British actors. And I don't I think Hollywood has an
issue with that as well. But certainly, when you make it,
black actors, then it's just kind of silly. It's one thing to
be non a DOS, it's one thing to be non American altogether. That
is clearly the off color, coin phrase.
And maybe people may be overly sensitive. Just because we do
feel like we're being replaced. We had this conversation a few
episodes ago, because of multiracial people. We feel like
we've been replaced by that. due to immigration, we feel like
we're being replaced by that. And then when you see it start
reflecting on on film, on screen, where you like, who was
that person? We had the Obama effect, where you really take a
look at him, he wasn't
eight and also native black. So it's like when you start putting
these data points together, it becomes it irks you, in a way.
And I would say like, what is really going on, perhaps the
Obama presidency, has left an indelible mark of disappointment
for foundational blacks. And because Obama just didn't do
much.
Yeah, he didn't do much at all. But then it's like, did we
expect him to when we start really started looking at his
background?
Well, we thought we thought Michelle would rub off on him,
and it would help a bit. And that was kind of the backstop, I
think for the argument.
Yeah. But it was clear that he was a very elite. And I think
that's the another thing with the maybe British thing, because
there's a certain elitism with black immigrants, because let me
make this clear. A large portion of black immigrants are elites
from their country, their home country, not all but a sizable
portion. Right. But I don't want to get stuck on this point too
much. But of course, with Samuel Jackson said that he had to
clarify his comments.
Samuel L. Jackson clarifies comments he made about casting
black British actors in African American roles.
There are a lot of British black British actors that work all the
time. So I tend to wonder, what would that movie have been when
an American brother who really understands that in a way, you
actually take a snippet of what somebody says, and you make a
headline out of it, you listen to the conversation, you know,
turns to another thing, you know, I totally respect and love
all those UK guys that come over here and work. And understand
that coming here, it gives them a unique opportunity to advance
their careers, and hopefully go back home and create
opportunities for their friends and other guys and let them know
that they can come here, and they can succeed, too. They
know, I'm black. You might wanna you know, as far as you know, we
talked about get out and I know Daniel, for a very long time. I
knew Daniel when he was a young writer actor in the UK, you
know, I had literally introduced him to his agent. So I'm looking
forward to coming over here. You know, hopefully I run into y'all
somewhere we can talk it out and we can work it out. It's all
good.
Yeah, he said with clenched teeth. This is all good.
My best friend. My best friend is black British. That's right.
I can't wait to hang out with him. Yeah, so.
Yeah. So he had to recant his statement and I understand why.
Well, yeah, he's part of the system to back from how They
work basically you call those roles the keep coming. You had
to play you have to play along. But I want to make a point that
in the conversation where he made this statement, he was
talking at home and he said we wanted to urban radio stations
in New York. And he was speaking to Mr. Ebro. Mr. Ebro is going
to come back, come back a few clips from now, but just keep
that in mind. All the listeners out there and you as well, Adam,
okay, so. So Miss Lena, wait, she visited hot 97 nondepressed
run for, for Queen and slim. And she's the she wrote she wrote
the movie, correct. She's, she's the writer of the movie. And she
was asked about British actors playing American roles.
So how do you feel about there's been a conversation that we now
have had on our show, and it's been a lot of places about black
British actors playing American parts. Queen and slim,
obviously, is a black story, but it is also an American story.
Daniel, of course, is an amazing British actor. What are your
thoughts on that whole?
Honestly, I think it's divisive. You know, and I think it's, it
doesn't move the culture forward. And I always say this,
you know, for anyone that has that argument, or like, oh,
let's get some American, whatever, as at the end of the
day, if you're black and you get pulled over by a police officer,
he's not gonna not kill you because you have a British
accent. That is a fact. So I'm not sure. You know, black is
black is black is black. And we all get discriminated against.
We all get treated like second class citizens in a country that
our ancestors helped build. And, to me, I'm a big proponent of
black unity. I don't care where you come from. If you black we
family.
Oh, well, first of all, I just disagree. If you're pulled over
and you hit the cop with a British accent, which you might
want to try one time. Just as an idea. I think you're good to go.
Oh, it's one of those guys. Yeah, he's What are you actor?
Yeah. So she slipped something in there. She says that, of all
our answers is a country that all our answers do is help
build. Yeah. I want to play that
again. Play that again. So we all in this together. You know,
black is black is black is black. And we all get
discriminated against. We all get treated like second class
citizens in a country that our ancestors have built. And to me,
I'm a big proponent of black unity. I don't care where you
come from. If you black we family.
Wow. Okay. I agree with most of her statement there. Just one
little bit of the pee in the mattress. This country that all
our ancestors helped build No. Robe. Yeah. Of of foundational
blacks, Athos versus non native blacks. This is the rub. Now you
want to come and claim. Ownership of a legacy? That's
not really yours. I wouldn't be very offended. I would I would
not okay, let me say, oh, no,
hold on. I mean, this is this is not even black or white. No, no
bridge. Look, originally, yeah, we were all Brits who came over
it was the original Brexit. But after that, we drew a line, you
know, it's like, okay, we're declaring our independence,
we're building this country. And that was it. And the help didn't
come from from Britain. It's a very odd thing to say.
But this is this is politically driven as globalist my whole
point this is, this is the whole, all black is his
monolith. And we have to stick together, you can't divide that,
you know, can't divide us. And you know, this is the thing is,
all of this is plays a role into politics. All of this is state
hurting, you know, we're all one black mana live. And if we're
all going to receive anything is going to be for everybody. And
as we talked about in previous episodes, this is not the case.
That's also the reality and the ratio of history. It's not cool.
And I would expect to be checked. If I went to Jamaica
and like, yeah, all my SSL build this, or if I went, you know, to
any other non American Place and try to lay claim to what they've
built. So I don't so I'm just being fair in that, in that
sense. So Ebro, the one that sent me on Jackson was talking
to before two years prior, when he made the comment about black
actors. He's going to chime in on the British actors play
American roles. Well, that's
pan Africanism. Right. And I think that's, that's the piece
that the slave master right and the plantation has programmed
into American blacks is thinking that our experience is somehow
disconnected completely right from the transatlantic slave
trade and slaves that went to Jamaica slaves and went to
Dominican Republic, Brazil, right? The colonialism that took
place on the continent in Africa. Right, right, um, slaves
that ended up in Europe via that same Yeah, colonialism, right.
So our brains are programmed to think that somehow that's not
us. Right? That is us. And the power actual dynamic is when we
separate ourselves because of that. That's how they continue
to keep us right. Weak.
Wow, that's interesting that what a reversal that is, cheese,
okay, so just to distill in my brain, he said, All right, all
the slaves all across the world all came from Africa. Not true,
but okay, well, we'll give them that. Therefore, you are, by
definition united. In your pan Africanism, which is by Pan
Africanism is a political movement. It's a political
political statement, political grouping. And therefore, the
part that I find interesting is magically everybody helped build
America.
Exactly. And if you want to take yourself in, you know, identify
yourself as a subset of that group that's anti black or anti
pan Africanist when nobody has made a complaint about people
who refer to themselves as Haitian or Jamaican, Jamaican or
whatever. All the West Indies. Yeah, yeah. All the West Indies
identify themselves. May they fly their flag? Oh, that's like,
pretty pretty much any immigrant group when it comes to America,
they identify themselves by their home country Sure. Where
this is where Athos has a weird, we have a weird experience
because
your flag the Stars and Stripes, my friend,
right? And so we're like you say, so we're reversed because
we're, we're looked at differently because all you fly
the flag or your your oppressor, it's like, huh, yeah. So but as
I say, again, all of this is political. All of this has to do
with 2020, in a weird way, because it's like, stay on, stay
in the herd, stay on the plantation, and do everything
expected to do with you and main black, and one of them is
voting. I know that's a stretch. But we're going to see later, as
I promise, how films are used as mind control.
And it's so good. When you say it's a stretch, that means your
mind is going to be exercised on this very show.
Yes. So Linda wife, she goes into the characters of Queen and
slim,
finding the characters was interesting, because I didn't
want them to be prototypes, but yet, and so they are prototypes,
you know, for every black man and every black woman, although
we're not all a monolith. But I really kind of wanted to put
pieces of us into these characters so that way we can
see ourselves and them to me, the templates were a mock of
Mexico to King in terms of ideologies and ways of going
through life and in the most simplest terms.
You can see now, how they load these characters up with
audiology. Yes. And people always say it's just a movie Mo,
relax. It's just no, nothing is ever just a movie. Every movie
from Star Wars to matrix to all even a science fiction films
have a sob story. To the people that have asked to see
that's also the that's why movies we connect with movies,
even if you don't exactly understand what is going on, you
connect at a deep level because of the story because of the
characters because of what's going on. It's meant it's
whether nefarious or not, it's always intended to connect to
you
somehow. And there's a lot of intersectionality into this
movie as well. And it has a transgender female character,
her name is Goddess. So was it. So even the naming and like I
said, the names of the characters in this movie is not
queen and slim. It is not. And we're going to let lean away
explain queen and slim.
My biggest pet peeve is hearing characters names and scripts. If
you ask anyone that works with me knows that that's what I
think, scratch out very often. Because again, it's about
groundedness and reality if you think about having a
conversation with the person, how many times you say their
name, and the conversation. So now I know why people do it.
They do it because they want the audience to be aware of what the
characters names are. They forget the character's names,
but the truth is the names are not important. It's really about
who these characters are. And again, wanting for people to see
themselves in the characters and essence anyone can be queen
anybody can lease loan it's all of these are sort of like
nicknames we all give each other within the black community you
know whether it be a black mass and what up queen or whatever
slum.
Oh, okay I guess to do that in Britain to Queen slim now that's
not just a black thing by the way. This is universal as far as
I know well maybe it goes back to the 80s But people would call
me slim and Queen is the thing of today slay Queen that's a
very white girl thing actually.
Yep. But look at the disparity between the two names slam is a
ordinary
loser dude,
a slim Okay, you got no muscles. You're nothing but here's the
queen.
Exalted, like you said, it's like Queen. She's a queen. So I
had this, I did some digging around you tube. And I thought
this female and I didn't capture her name. I'm sorry for that
guys. But she is a pro woman, pro feminist. You're a blogger,
blogger. And she talks about the stereotypes used in Black movies
and explain what is a queen.
Today I'm going to talk about stereotypes. And I'm going to
discuss four different stereotypes. The mammy the Jezza
Bell, the Sapphire and the queen. And then last we have the
queen, which I hate so much because so many people are using
it nowadays and so annoying, right because the queen is just
strong this binary binary between like this Jessie Bell,
you know, hyper sexualized, fast black girl, and then this
respectable woman, right? She's smart, she's in her book, she
doesn't go out she has natural hair. It's all these respectable
qualities of what people think is respectable right? And what
really is really baseless. This is really nonsensical because it
really means nothing. It's it's literally what is it? It's a way
for men to exert their dominance over you know, black woman,
right? It's like, if you don't fit into this box, and you're
automatically not a queen, it's
Oh, that's interesting. I have a very different take on that. Now
the African Queen is has very high standing Queen Latifah. You
don't can't touch her.
When she's talking about how it's used in modern day, yes.
intersectional circles Gotcha. How was perceived and it's
amazing Lena Wait, who's a member of the LGBT community? We
use that title Queen if it's perceived that way as a
stereotype. Hmm. So, but Lena Wait, she goes on to talk about
the white gaze.
So for someone like me, who does care about color and cares about
the community and the culture, I have to be mindful to figure out
ways to get as much power as I can and tell our stories as
authentically as I possibly can. But there's still things like if
I want to do like a black drama, there's still this thing about
like, well, can they can they be more? Can they be more levity?
Can they smile more? Can they do this, or I don't understand
that. So we still sometimes have to water down our work so that
we can get it on the air or get it on the screen. And that's why
I think Queensland is so unique. Because I said to them, this
will not be touched by the white gaze. Like we've been watching
the Osmo GRC. Yeah, white people white boys, white hands why
eyes? This is this is for us.
Okay, white gays a term I've not come across before.
Let's be clear, she says she takes ownership for everything
in this movie, because she told the white people in Hollywood,
this project is hands off. That's what she just said. But
for you to cast certain characters in a certain way.
Queen being one of them. Let's see. Queen, I will do some more
digging. And I actually found the casting call for Queen. Oh,
really? Yes. And let's see here, said queen. She should be brown
skinned it. If she were a slave. She wouldn't have worked in the
fields and had a tough exterior for a reason. This is this is
how they're casting their movies. I'm
kind of superficial.
So here and here's another thing from the screw. So there's
another character in there called Uncle Earl. And this is
from the script itself because the script was actually public.
Publicize on social media. It says Queens open the door to
find her uncle Earl county money by hand. There's lots of Uncle
Earl is like chicken George if he wasn't a slave. Okay. So this
is this is what she's selling to Hollywood. And now you see why I
have a problem with it and I know there's what's going goes
on behind it. behind the closed doors, but now with this movie,
it's being publicized, we're starting to see behind the
scenes and it's kind of like she's a gatekeeper. These people
in Hollywood are gatekeepers, like, I can give you the black
experience.
But when I hear this, isn't she actually literally giving the
white gaze version? When when I when I hear the casting call
like that? Oh, it's like chicken, George. I mean, that's
a white gaze type definition, or am I missing the point?
No, it's that's exactly the point. It's a dead ringer. And
that is the case of she is the shield they hide behind. It's
like, Give us something that can be palatable to, to put on a big
screen, but you give us your little flavor. This is what's
being this is what's being I believe being negotiated behind
the scenes. But there's this weird statement and it really
has nothing to do with the story as we go on. But it's just a
weird sidebar that I want to address. So this guy named
Rosenberg, a hot night seven, he's a white Jewish male. And he
says that whites have no community,
just blind like yo, some black people are going through some
they need us. Boom. He said, That piece is something that I
think, you know, obviously coming from a family of black
people and white people and seeing that on both sides. I
know that that takes place. But mainstream America doesn't see
black America that
right. But also this is important to point out that that
does not exist for white people. There may maybe on some crazy
clandestine, racist, racist world it does what in a typical
regular person. There's no such thing as white community. That's
not a thing.
Well, first of all, obviously, Rosenberg was invited to the
barbecue. So he speaks from huge experience.
Yeah, Africa. The Cook. Cook row. Yeah. Rosenberg, um, I
think he was filling his privilege kind of like showing
through. So now he has to downtown. Oh, well, white people
don't really have a community as him being a Caucasian Jewish
person. They have one to Titus knit communities known to man.
Oh, yeah. Well, of course, Jews. A lot of Jews do not consider
themselves white. And that's the and that's a little caveat. We
got to put they're
interested. I know that.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Many Jews say white. I'm not white. I'm
Jewish. It's different than that. And I can't speak to that.
Any more than I can speak to black but I does one thing I
will say. I personally am sick and tired of this whole
community concept because that's bullshit. The LGBTQ q ia P K. K
LMNOP. Community is no community no and and I'm sure that you are
not in the same community as some gangbanger in in
Compton. Know, your culture is what ties you to a community
thank you. crumbs off of morals and shared morals and shared
experience and experience. Yeah. But I thought it very nice. Like
I said, this is a sidebar, I just thought it was very
disingenuous of Rosenberg to say he, we don't have a community
when Dude, your ideal
ultimate community is Jewish. Yes, of course.
This is gonna show you when you the only white guy in the room,
you gotta kind of bow down and if you're standing, they will
not let your privilege shine.
I know, imagine doing a podcast with a black guy. It's really
hard. You got to be on your toes all the time. It's tough.
So, so lean away, she exposes Hollywood, and this next clip,
and they're motors on the jackpot.
You know, there's still battles that we got to fight and things
that we have to do, but an example um, you know, it's
still, here's the deal. Most networks and studios are still
all about white guys, you know. And so, and the truth is black
content sort of represents a jackpot a little bit right now.
It's like, they know that this this experience can be
commodified. And that at the end of the day, I always tell people
Hollywood don't care about color. They care about commerce.
Where there you have it, yeah, it's all about the Benjamins.
Well. Yeah, they do care about color. It's just that the color
is green. That's it's real known. Yeah, sure.
And she let that slip out because what we have this
viewpoint of all these, these liberal woke, white folks in
Hollywood, and they really just want to put the black experience
on the screen so the whole world can see what really goes ozone
No, no, that's a great model for you right now.
Yes. And what I everything I hear her say in just the way I'm
receiving it is apologize and she's in a way apologizing for
what she did. Because she said, Well, you know, we got to do
this as a bunch of white dudes in Hollywood. Well, you know, as
we get we got to this gotta be it was commodity we got to sell.
It's got to be in, we got to have the right names, everything
is kind of an excuse.
And this is nothing new. Because she understands what she's
doing. And she has to apologize for it for the people that can
really see past the bull crap. Yeah, which I am one of them. So
what I've identified here, we've identified this, let's turn on
this show of child based entertainment. But what it
really is, is this weird sub sub genre of a horror movie that For
Colored Girls, she said that she was African American horror
movie man, temptation was African American horror movie
for color girls African American horror movie. I think he has
something to do with precious that was African American horror
movie. I just, I don't know, man. It's just like Tyler Perry.
He paints a very negative portrayal of black men with that
bag like Jesus Christ, I pray it makes it seem like me shit. It'd
be it'd be too it'd be too well off brothers, it'd be two
brothers, that'd be doing something.
Yeah.
It's true. Can you think of a movie that is that it has black
actors that is not trauma based in recent memory?
It is going to be a comedy. These are these two? And I think
it follows with the Hollywood model, because that's the only
thing you see, really the two movies that you see. And large
quantities produced the horror movie or the comedy, right?
Those are only two. So they say how can we we can't do slave
movie anymore. So let's create this weird. Hybrid Hybrid of a
shocker. Well, what's the what's the it's a it's a term for the
movie, I can't think of it. But it's like when you go in there.
It's intense. You know, it's, it's an intense experience. And
that's what they give us a thrill to realize it's very
hard, a thriller thriller less than one. So you have a racially
based thrillers, which they give to us and black people live
vicariously through the movie.
And at the same time, it has to appeal to white audiences, if
it's going to make any money.
Yes, it has to be safe enough where it's palatable to your
ordinary average white viewer, or the white person is so
sympathetic, and guilty. They feel white guilt that they'll go
through the movie and I've heard white people say this, I've seen
that movie twice. It's like,
this is the 12 Years a Slave thinks.
They live the paid live the opposite, like the guilt. So you
have the victimization mentality going to see it for one reason,
and you have the white, guilt ridden person going to see it
for another reason. And they're both living this weird
experience. So there you have it. But that was Charlemagne, a
God and he identified it. He was talking about Tyler Perry
movies, but Tyler Perry, what Tyler Perry has done is
identified that you can have a strictly mostly black audience
and be very lucrative. You can make a lot of money at it if
it's niche enough. And that's what you're seeing with these
films. So we have another clip for Charlemagne, one of our
frequent contributors to the show, and he talks about no more
slave movies. Well, I saw the movie great movie, you know
definitely deserved it.
Your wife Blanche.
Of course you thought that was a great movie. Oh really?
Think it was a great movie?
Watch no 12 Years a Slave now you want to see that bullshit
for what? I listen man. I'm a man a one Best Picture. salute
them. Congratulations. I'm not in the slave movies. No more.
Why do we need more slave movies? We got enough slave
movies, man.
You got roots.
You got 12 Years a Slave. We had almost died. We had Beloved, you
got all these documentaries on slavery. We had Django which and
Django was my favorite slave movie of all time, by the way.
And the reason is my favorite movie of all time, because
Django wasn't no victim. Hi, Django, Bert, the plantation
down, killed all the slave masters killed all the house
Negroes and rode off into the sunset with Kerry Washington.
That's the kind of slave movies I like movie that we're very,
very happy ending. Okay.
Why am I starting to like Charlemagne a little bit this
can this can't stand.
This is the thing. And that's the beauty about being a
gatekeeper. He was saying just enough.
Yeah, you can keep your black card. Yeah, you're right. You're
right.
But then they slipped a little Oh, you know that no look in
there. You know this. I call it the pee in the mattress. It's
always something that makes you uncomfortable with the person.
Because there's certain topics they can't brochure. There's
certain ways they can't say I agree. I think that the role of
gatekeepers where he's playing expertly here. Yeah. So what he
said in that last clip was very important. And as we're at the
point in the show, we always got to go back. Oh, because these
kinds of things have been seen before for. So we have Mr.
Charles woods, which is a black film archivist and historian.
And he talks to us about the real reason behind
blaxploitation. He makes
sweetbay bad, so nobody want to see that film. Personally, I'm
going to say, piece of crap as far as I'm concerned, okay. What
helped get that going? Was the support of the Black Panthers
wasn't it and gave it a big write up. Go see this film, they
wanted to tie in Huey Newton, who needed a revolutionary this
and all of that. What had a lot of brothers going to see it was
a whole lot of stuff going on in it, you know, what did he
introduce in that film? Black and white six, black men and
black women making love a black man striking a white man because
he kills the cop. All right. But we can also call that film and
IgG on the run. Because all through the movie, so he's doing
running.
And Charles woods.
I am not familiar with him. Okay, like I said he was a black
archivist, black film archivist and historian. He does. His
moniker is the professor. I'm a YouTuber, YouTube as well. Yes.
Okay, good. Well, I mean, he also is I mean, he's, he's known
for his work. And like, like looking at Black films. But if
you notice in that clip, he said, You could call it mean
with the movie he was speaking about is sweet backs, sweet,
sweet backs, badass song. And this is one of the
Blaxploitation films that predated shaft. As he said, it
was a piece of crap in his, in his opinion, knowledgeable
opinion, opinion. And he said, what it's about what flat people
making love. Yeah. And black person killing a white cop. And
then in RGG, GE are on the run is what you said. You call it
film. Don't we see a parallel here? Oh, you stumped me. It was
worth queen. It's just Yes.
This is the exact same movie. Thank you. Okay, I got it. So
it's the same movie, the same idea. The same plot,
essentially. Then, of course, I've seen neither. Oh, wow. And
when would when did that movie come out? That's so that's early
70s.
Yes, predict shaft. So it had to be the early segment. Wow, check
it for. So it's really just a shitty remake of a black sport.
blaxploitation flick,
it's a cycle. Yeah, it's a complete cycle. And we're going
to understand why as Mr. Shaw was continuing on, and
blaxploitation two,
I don't know if a lot of people wear this. They fall over him
wearing a mustache, because usually what happens is the
trope for heroes. You don't give a mustache the only one to help
get get away with that was Clark Gable. But, you know, if we talk
about what stereotypes do or what accepted images, they're
shorthand, so if you have a blonde, she's dumb, you have
some way with glasses and a pipe. He's smart. He's sharp, so
you put the mustache that's the villain. They gave finally their
consent. Okay, well let them have mustard. But that was a
phony mustache that Roundtree was wearing. Are you aware that?
I never knew that. Okay. So yeah, so smart. Yeah.
What he's talking about here, Chef. Yeah, of course, chef came
after sweet backs. Oh, sweet ass song. A me badass. Oh, excuse
me. And Chef was one of the films that struck the right
chord. Because sheriff was really the good guy. But I will
put that clip in here just to show you even down to the facial
hair. Oh, yeah. It's negotiated, because everything is
representative of something.
And that's and that's movies in general. But it's obvious what's
going on here. Sure. Sure.
Like you said, the blondes are dumb. The Gout the pipe and you
know, smart, smart. Yeah. And you had a guy black guy with a
mustache. He would be seen as the villain, right, but the
movie was so good Shaq was able to break that mold of a good guy
having a mustache. So even though it was fake, I didn't
know that that's a little trivia. For people out there was
it was awesome moustache though. Um, so now Charles Wood is going
to talk about how films had an impact on him when he watched
them.
One of the other things I failed to mention was growing up. Not
only did I want to be a white man, I also wanted to make love
to Virginia mayo. Rhonda Fleming. These names you have to
look up but brainwashed you Yes, Brother season now. I'm looking
at Pam Greer, black chocolate Gloria Hendry. Now we talking
there's something for us
now, people might ask the question, well, why does black
people fall so susceptible to films? And music? Well, and it's
not just black people is gonna say poor people.
Yes. Thank you.
Poor people. This this is how they transfer their history. I
mean, a lot of Irish Irish. I think it's called G eggs or
whatever the songs that they sang. They contain history
stories in them. Oh, sure. It's even people that weren't
literate they could sing
well the country in western does this of course hip hop is you
know, this started off as the black CNN back in the in the
rapper days? I would say no,
it would not it would I mean these things but
also how about the negro spiritual songs I mean, all of
this stuff, it's that's worldwide. And the masses of
course, in general, most people in the world are poor. So that's
why we have these types of storytelling storytelling, no
matter how you do it, but a story told in a way that is easy
to remember, in us in a lyric or in a movie that is simplified
and puts things together that really are hard to do in the
same time span in real life. That's how we how we continue
stories about our culture, our background, our families, our
history, our everything.
And that's why really good movie can relate to several different
layers and intelligence level of people. Because you take a
simple child movie like Lion King. To the children, they take
one thing from it, but to the train I there's a lot of socio
political, oh hell topics covered in there, especially
Samia that just goes through it even in a child's movie, that it
can have those different layers to it. Well, now here we are. If
you have a bubbling undercurrent throughout the poor Society of
unrest, Charles was explained what the purpose of movies,
these films,
they help quell those riots. Because remember, we had the
Kerner Commission studying why we had all these riots. These
films helped to calm that down. I called it rioting in the movie
theaters. Because all of our anger and our angst, we were
able to bet and seeing people who look like us kick the white
man's behind. And what was the subtitle of blaxploitation? Get
YT for every drop of black blood spilled, a white man pays. He
had a plan to stick it to the man, the man see, we were
beating the man. And so I call it rioting in the movie theater.
Because this was writing without destroying anything. It was a
catharsis for us.
Wow. Yeah, you get the
point? Well, I was also thinking about my first experience in the
in an all black movie theater in New York City. I was invited to
the opening night of coming to America with Eddie Murphy and
Arsenio Hall, and that experience with as you go with
all of my movie experiences Now granted, I'd grown up in Europe
most of the time you go to the movie and you know, people will
laugh and and say things are pretty appropriate moments. But
man, that experience and it was in New York City was something
different. It was like people jumping up in the aisles and
yelling like, no, stop. No, no, no, don't go there and turn
around. I was just It was crazy. I loved it. But it was very
different.
And that's what Mr. Charles would have said in the last 1015
seconds of that clip. It was it was catharsis. Yeah, it's a
release. Yes. And if you're the elite, now you understand why
they make movies like this. Yeah,
we want to take the pressure off. So take the pressure off
the cooker,
right? So when you have movements, like Black Lives
Matter, every time you do have a uprising, Hollywood and nearly
get together and say, let's give them films, where they can live
vicariously through the characters. And make him have
that, like you said, take the pressure off the cooker,
even a little, it's even a little better than that, knowing
somewhat of how Hollywood works, they actually have a shelf or a
slate, as they call it. of movies ready to go. Some of them
made a year ago, some of them made two years ago. They can
determine to release something not like oh, we got some
problems. We got to release the pressure. Let's go make a movie.
No, no, this is all done. This is already it's on the plank.
It's good to go.
This edge I didn't know that point. So they haven't we can
look at how many already in the can. Yeah,
it's in the can. Sure.
So I'm gonna go back to Mr. Brandon Avery, the movie critic,
and he said his small tidbit that kind of confirms what we
heard in the last clip.
So after reading that plus synopsis, it sounds kind of fun.
It sounds adventurous like wow, you know, to black people can
Macapa self defense. And you know, in reality, cops always
shooting black people for no rhyme or reason at all. I mean,
my goodness gracious. Seems like we're gonna have a fairness on
my hair, like kinda like a modern day Django Unchained or
something like that?
Yeah. Well, we have, we have the genre. The genre is fantasy.
Nice. We're going to have a fantasy on our hands. This is
the sick man is real, but it's sick. But from the 70s to the
80s black people became aware and he things can only burn out
so long. And two they go, they become rendered ineffective. And
then they go away. And then it's Robin comes, do you have another
way? I mean, this goes. So we had a gentleman named Mr. Robert
Townsend. And now I have these next set of clips because he had
a movie called Hollywood shuffle I ever
heard. Yeah, of course, I've met him. I've met him several times.
So Mr. Robert, Towson paid for this movie Hollywood shuffle out
of his own pocket, he maxed out credit cards, everything, and he
and it was a huge success. And huge success. And not only that,
but when you find your own money, you're all movies. You
could tell the true phenom. Yeah. And with that said, black
acting schools Hollywood shuffle.
Hi, my name is Robert Taylor. And I'm a black actor. I had to
learn to play the slave part. And now you can too and
Hollywood's first black acting school, teachers were taught 101
mother fucking Jack Turkey mother fucker.
Alright, that's good. That's good. You work hard. You try it.
You You fucking mothers. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, that's wrong.
That's wrong. Watch me. Cool. Job tricky. That's the
beginning. You too can learn to walk.
No, no, no, no, no. No
I remember this movie. It was great. It was very funny.
And the funny thing about that clip was when people can't see
is you had white men showing the black people out of black which
was hilarious.
Whatever happened to whatever happened to Townson? I mean he
kind of faded away a bit from from what Emery I'm sure he's
doing something good.
Hip Hop happened to him and we're gonna we're gonna get
we're gonna get to that in a minute. All right goggles and
put the goggles I'm sorry.
My head yes, I gotta put on the shades Yeah,
yeah, so um he taught he was telling the truth in this and in
the movie we I suggest everybody go check check it out because
it's hilarious that this satirical and the funny thing is
in that clip, he's speaking with a British accent which is which
has a whole nother connotation to it. Like,
especially right now with everything that we're talking
about.
All right, it's weird. I mean, that's why I made a great
addition to the to the clips that I snagged from it. But he
continues on with the black acting school too.
You too can be a black street hood. But this class is for dark
skinned blacks only light skinned or yellow black still
make good clothes. Here's a student not dance class. Kind of
steal a TV. just happen to be on my coat. I don't know.
policewoman called Jack. Yeah, I'm a gang leader. I'm in the
war laws, Vice laws, onion here. Let's talk to graduate. This is
Ricky Taylor. Ricky graduated from our class three years ago.
Ricky, can you tell us what you've been doing since you've
graduated?
Well, Robert has played nine trucks for gang leaders.
I played a rapist twice. It was fun. Currently, I'm filming a
prison movie. I play this tough calm it tries to fuck this new
enemy.
That That sounds wonderful. I'm so happy for you.
It's coming back. It's coming back. It's funny.
What he is a brilliant movie, because what he did was poke fun
at the roles that black actors at a time in 1987 were being
hired for. And you could tell truth, you could tell truth to
power. If you're funding your own movies for
comedy, comedy is always talking truth to power. Alright.
And the reason why I wanted to use these clips is until we find
your own move its value for value. Is it basically what it
is when you have the freedom to say what you want to say? The
people find value in it and then they support it. Which your fun.
stop you right there. Mo fund me.com. That's exactly what this
is about mov f u n d.com.
And if you don't, then you have to go through checking in with
the powers that be and say, Oh, well, the the test say screening
tests say that that doesn't sit well with white male
test audience. Yes. Well, you know, most, most Hollywood
movies have at least two sometimes three endings, they'll
shoot and they'll test market those amongst the audience. I
mean, it's so micro, this is why everything sucks. This is why
radio sucks is why television sucks is why the movies suck in
general. There's always exceptions, of course, but it's
all been micromanaged down to the single demographic that they
expect to exploit the most or get the most out of their wallet
from that's it.
It's been sanitized. It's been it's been really sanitized. And
there are some good shows out there that captured what goes on
the black community. But there's so far a few between because
either one they had to put the art over the commerce or you
have to get people and one of the cases was the wire. They
actually got people from Baltimore, and they capture doom
in a realistic humanized way. Yeah, not caricatures. Yeah. But
when you're going for the Fast Book or the mind control, you
need to caricatures like Lena wave face, she needed you to see
a little bit of yourself and each character, you know, um, so
it's bullcrap. But for those people that are interesting in
signing up for the black acting school, we have the we have the
number for you.
Classes are enrolling now learn to play TV pimps movie mongers
street punks, courses include Jive talk, one on one shuffling
200 epic slaves 400 da one 800 555.
Don't try to be cool call hot
that would never make it today. No. No, no, no. So as you said
before, you're getting ahead. You said what happened to Robert
Townsend. What happened to people like that? Yeah. Well, we
had an influx in hip hop. And Robert towel was seen as being
corny. So you need a more seedy side to Black Media going into
the 90s as Mr. Nelson Nelson George, the famed director
explains.
Me I think that what's happened and this is the dark side of hip
hop, is it sort of in the 60s, black stuff became soul,
everything was so bread there was so food, so handshakes,
vote. Now everything's hip hop, hip hop, this hip hop that, but
the truth is, it's a much more complicated template hip hop.
People sort of view, hip hop as this thing that runs everything,
but I always see hip hop as part of black culture and not the
other way around. And then Hip Hop responds to more broader
general trends in terms of violence in terms of family
issues, education, all these things, the music then reflects.
But because of I was looking this kind of easy shorthand for
marketers, they leave it. That's why I got like Tyler Perry, who
I brought up has been so successful.
Okay, shorthand for marketers. Yeah, so it's easy. You could
throw hip hop into something, though. And when I say hip hop,
we're talking about the negative form of it. They get throw that
in the background, a soundtrack and then make it easily packaged
together a quick movie for a quick book. So that put the
people like Robert Townsend out of business. And as he said in
the clip, that's why Tyler Perry book came so rich and powerful
because he actually reached introduced even though it was
problematic, and in its own way, negative, it was a non Hip Hop
version, what he did was gave you the black struggle,
sprinkled a little Jesus, and, and it created a huge, it was a
huge opportunity. And he created a market, he created a product
for that market for the non hip hop, um, black market. But
because at the time, maybe he said, You see now hip hop's
taken over everything, and it's not the positive hip hop, as we
talked about on previous shows. They're not marketing, positive
hip hop. It's the negative stuff for the same reason as they
market these negative movies. But that's where we're at. So
yeah, I have nothing but agreement for you. I was just
thinking, Robert Townsend. Where'd he go? I think he got
displaced by kids and Play Movies didn't
know what happened. Well, you Yeah. And then kid, and it's a
gradual effect. So you they use kid and play and positive hip
hop as a Trojan horse. That was fun loving me had likes. I mean,
they had no more cussing than that Hollywood shuffle. And it
was a fun movie, like a house party and those movies, right?
And then once they got a hold into, it's got like, share, same
thing share was a positive movie. Yeah, you had a black
top, and you're saying cleaning up the neighborhood kicking ass?
And what look at all the movies came after that Superfly what
was super fun doing? It was sniffing dope and pimping women,
it's the it's always a Trojan horse that comes in as positive.
And then they bring in the real motive after that, once we
become accepting of it. So I'm Mr. George, Nick, I'm a nurse,
excuse me, Mr. Nelson. George continues on about the media's
portrayal of black culture.
So it just goes to show you that if you just read the mainstream
press, you think the only thing that was happening in black
American culture was hip hop. And in fact, it's far from that.
So that the complexity and the range of expression within the
black community is really always underappreciated, and
narrowcast. And you have to really be clear that black
culture is not a monolith. There's a lot of subsets and
interesting tributaries of and that's where the real fun is
actually, of course, it is,
of course. Well, Miss Lena Wait, made an interesting observation
about Hollywood. She's made the claim that Hollywood studios are
owned by majority white males. Is that a completely accurate
statement? Adam
complete, I knew I was gonna mention that earlier, too. First
of all, a lot of these companies are public, or many of them are
public. So they are they may be run by by white guys at the top.
But Hollywood, as far as I know, is pretty much Oh, I know that
AMC movie theaters and a lot of the big studios are owned by
China. Who as we know is asshole.
China bans hip hop. Well, Brad, I
think it's safe to say that we won't be on television in China
anytime soon. Yes, the country's top media regulators of the
People's Republic of China now specifically require that
programs should not feed your actors with tattoos or depict
hip hop culture so I'm out against that make it all bad
for us. Yeah, I'm saying
actually, tattoos you're out yesterday with Chinese tattoo.
They're really cracking down Chinese rapper weighing HoH aka
PG one was forced to apologize earlier this month after one of
his songs Christmas Eve was criticized for promoting drug
culture and insulting women. Wait a second that's my name
sounds like a rapper name. But that's his real name. So he
takes his real name, which sounds like rapper name and
creates a rapper name. Yeah, PG was a little little Wang. Oh,
yeah. No. Little way.
Yeah, China's definitely has a big influence, you know, wow.
China in this twice in this series of shows and one with the
NBA and sports and in movies. Yeah. So they
of course. So why is it that China feels this okay for their
movie studios and I'm sure they all movie studio they own a lot
of the shares in these record companies as well. It's okay to
promote certain music and images to one community, but it's not
okay to promote in their own country? Well, no,
of course not that they don't want a bunch of people getting
all pissed off in their own country let that happen in
America.
And it could be negative and deleterious. Right. Yes. I mean,
I would think so. Well, I have the splendid opportunity, which
you may be far and few with him in between, to introduce Mr.
Alex Jones to the show, oh, boy, he's right off the road. He is
plays China ban on hip hop.
And they're losing control. Hollywood's folding,
everything's falling. I made the point that they're hoping
Communist China buys up the Big Six, production houses desert
failing. I mean, the point, my God, you people don't even kill
yourself straight. The communists have already taken
over in China. So they don't want homosexuality, talk to
kids, and training stuff and all this stuff. They execute you if
you're gay in China. I'm not saying that's good. The news
pick that up, I had a memo on it last week, I said, you want
China to come in and take over, because they're authoritarian
comeback of Hollywood. And because they're anti American,
but they'll execute you for your agenda. And they won't even let
you air most of your films that they see as anti family, because
they understand that the brand of sexual revolution you're
selling was designed by the CIA this declassified to end the
family and bring down civilization.
And this is why I love Alex Jones. He breaks it. So simply,
yeah, exactly. What I'd like to know is now that you just
stumbled across this in your research, are you listening
every day to the Infowars?
I used to be listening to Alex Jones, way back. And I think
he's the gateway drug to conspiracy analysts and
theorists. Yeah, that's kind of where you start. And then if you
grow from there, he started seeing, looking for more
information. So I was familiar with that. I hadn't heard her
news clip. But I'm although I was aware of what he stated in
the clip as being almost a fact.
Well, and look at how to have him. Look at how powerful it is.
No, I mean, we had the whole NBA conversation. was China owning
the NBA? Well, Nike, of course, but the trifecta, and it's gone.
It's no longer discussed. It's off the radar, which was moved
on to something else. Don't look over here, whatever you do,
don't look at what China's controlling.
Yeah, and it's just telling that our country biggest China, 1.6
billion people tried to ban hip hop and his imagery, not the
actual music, but the imagery and the negative negativity that
comes along with it. And as Alex Jones said, it's a form of
propaganda.
Now, I have to say something having having time is somewhat
traveled man. I've never been to China. But I have been to Russia
and I went to Russia in 1988. Before David Hasselhoff brought
the wall down, we all know the Hof did that. And I met kids who
were playing songs themselves. Western music, which they had
only heard and it copied down lyrics phonetically. So they
didn't even have the written lyrics. Of course, it was the
there was a big trade smuggle in cassette tapes. So they would
get a cassette tape and I just remember being in what was
called a restaurant. And it was very elite upscale. Of course,
we were visitors were there for the Moscow music Peace Festival
at the time, another scam for another day. And in the guys,
this is like a kid and he's and he's singing. I don't know if
you remember, Johnny hates jazz shattered dreams. It's just that
was one of the songs he was singing that I remembered. And
he was singing it like Anna had a FEWS NET a dream Sneed who was
just making up words, it was all phonetically. My point being
that in China, they can they can and this is a worldwide and it
always gives me hope. So yeah, you can block the mainstream
channels you can block the more Mind Control tubes that are
going straight into people's brains from the mainstream. Or
as you heard, Alex say, you know, there's probably more
agenda behind it. But luckily, we do have the tools and
underneath kids are actually doing this. They're performing
it on street corners. I mean, hip hop didn't didn't appear on
top 40 radio. I mean, hip hop was street battles initially.
Yeah, that's, that's back in the day of hey, you The Rock Steady
Crew. I was in LA at the at the was it? BLS I think was the BLS
street battle in 1981. This is where it came from. It came from
the street. So this is all manufactured shit anyway. So I
guess, a roundabout way of saying, yes, they're stopping
that or they're only using the most negative, but I think human
nature, I'm sure if we move you and I went to China, that'd be
pretty cool. By the way, we'd get some cool looks. I think we
would find it I think it would find kids with their own version
of hip hop that was real underneath everything else. I
think people have to realize it's all phony. It's all fake.
All of it. All of it is with an agenda and with an if it's
mainstream. 90% is just disingenuous.
You can't stop it. And I think China understands they can't
stop it. So if you can't stop something, just like America,
American industry, do. You have to infiltrate it and control it?
Yeah. And that's how it works. But I have the final clip. We
have Mr. Alex Jones, continuing on about China, hip hop in
China. And
again, you're like, Well, wait, is it a communist program? No.
The Rockefeller Foundation, the Ford Foundation, these big
groups put all this out in the 50s and 60s, deployed in the in
the 60s and 70s. And they've done it. The black community
have less illegitimacy in the 40s that likes to announce
upwards of 87% That's weaponized control. MTV force feeding extra
rap, folks picked it up converted their culture to being
thugs. So everyone would ostracize them, put them in the
wrong group. Everybody kills each other. You're ready for
prisons. They've been everywhere your pants hanging down around
your ass, saying I'm a male more in a prison. Punk me bend me
over and
I mean, they can make people dress like prison sex slaves,
and make it cool because Sumner Redstone, MTV sets up. A
restaurant hates you.
Okay, first of all, I was at MTV for a long time I worked there.
There was never any memo. There's never anything that went
around and get no secret meeting, no handshake. I was
also in the music meetings where we determined what we were
going. I was the only on air talent who really ever expressed
interest in it. But who was invited to these meetings. And I
can just tell you, MTV, by itself was an entity had nothing
to do with this. They they themselves were complete bitches
to the music industry. The music industry determine what
happened. Once MTV took the lid off and said, Okay, now we're
going big. And they got different. It used to be owned
by American Express. Then I went over to Viacom. That's when
Michael Jackson came in. It wasn't because a bunch of white
guys at MTV said, Well, what do you think Tom? Well, I think we
should let the black man on that on the channel. It's about time
Don't you think so by the way, it's kind of a white guy this
mic? No, it wasn't like that at all. It came from above man. He
was way above MTD way, but who's the seats? Yeah.
It comes from way, way away above. To the trick baby level.
Yes. That's where that's what these conversations happen at
least $50,000 dinners. Well, my kids had this interesting music
that they're listening to called hip hop and it could be a
problem.
I think I think I gotta play the trick baby scene again. Just
just just to remind people 1974 The movie trick baby. You
liberals who have lifted them up? Are
you conservatives make a mistake? You can't afford to
strangle hope and people without hope. People will come
dangerous.
No, Howard, you liberals have let them invade our society. You
give them jobs political job.
Oh, you missed the point. Only the smart ones we move up. That
makes it even worse. Oh, no, we have to move them up. If we
leave a smart one in the ghetto, he might develop into a leader
against us. But if we raise him up into white society, we
neutralize it. He feels compelled to try black like us.
He loses his identity and his racial anger. If it hasn't, he
becomes alien to his brothers. They realize he sold them out
and they grow to hate him. He becomes worse Listen to them and
say for us, no thank you. In fact, in his love for the
creature comforts except for his color, he's become one of us.
Yeah. Now, do you is there there's got to be awareness
amongst native blacks that this is truly what's going on,
particularly with this movie. I mean, what what what are you
hearing about queen and slim?
What? Well, it's all great propaganda. What it wants to do
is to divide. Yeah, it doesn't care which side you take is to
take a side. And a good portion of people see through the bull
crap like I do. And then it's another portion that thinks
well, as long as we will be reflected, and you have black
people in director roles and writer roles and black faces on
screen. It has to be good, right? Right. Yeah. That's
right. So this is the wet Yeah, this is the weird and it keeps
you in fighting because it's like, look as bad is I mean,
we've seen this over and over again. We've seen it from the
minstrels Oh, the early 19 hundred's then it came back
again and 1970s with blaxploitation somewhere in the
90s. I was more on television with homeboys in outer space and
silly shows like that. Yeah. And then and then it every time
there's a uprising, and I want people to really see this trend.
And the 70s, late 60s, you had on 68, which rules are really
hot here. You had boys, blaxploitation come along, in
the 90s, when you had Rodney King and that thing come along,
then you have a homeboys in outer space. And the real
caricature of negative Hip Hop come along right now. Well, you
have the Trayvon Martin in Ferguson and Black Lives Matter.
Now. Here we are.
Now, do you feel that there is an uprising that there truly is
an undercurrent of uprising and this may not be a violent
uprising? But is this the uprising that I feel you are a
part of is the excuse me, services rendered eff off? Not
going to vote for you unless we see something? Is this the
uprising?
Yes, this is the maturation, especially the political
maturation of non black people. And it's scary. And I always
say, these are everything you see right now. Because I don't
think you'll see really people take to the streets. But when
people start taking their political power back, yeah. And
I just gave it away,
much bigger than violence. That's a huge deal. That's the
biggest.
That is the biggest, and that's scary to one group of people.
And that's why I harp on that one group of people on this
show, because they're the ones that trying to say, get in line,
stay in Stay, stay information, do what you normally do. And
when we refuse to start doing that. That's when they turn up
the propaganda machine.
Now, have you seen queen and slim yet? No. Are you do you
intend to see it? No. I can't wait to find out what else is in
this movie, but it sounds you right now. What do you say the
now Well, how about your kids? Your kids want to see a movie
like this? What do you advise them?
Well, when I start seeing the trailers, I'll ask well, come
on, I only have one child is old enough really view something
like this? I'll ask her. What did you say? Like when that
trailer played? I'll ask her. What do you see? What did you
hear? Right? What's the motive here? And now she started her
eyes become very sharp because she's like, Dad, I saw that.
Good. I see how they don't teach this one thing I don't want
anybody to do. I don't tell my children what to think I teach
them how to think yes. Exactly. Well, if they come to a
conclusion on their own, through their own thought process, so be
it.
What I take away from this is I'm actually extremely positive,
because here we are here, you are really exposing this
propaganda for what it is, I never would have thought in
these terms, I would have still been a little bit stuck in the
British actor thing to take. So thank you for taking this all
the way down to the the cycles of exploitation. And and really
the disingenuousness of, of Leah where Lena weighed in in her
explanation of her choices, whereas it's just another one of
those. It truly is a trauma, trauma entertainment flick, and
it's meant to give people something in these Oso troubling
times. But above all, it's going to close the round. Thanks and
and keep people nice and docile where they need to be and just
laugh at the screen.
And hopefully we've coined a term today of these type of
movies as a racial thriller.
Racial thriller. Thank you go get that tattooed on the inside
of my eyelids
and I would remind people that the ones that are rolling their
eyes and say all MO You I am a black man. Black man, you idiot.
gives you no credits with me but okay. For the show. Yes. Mo
Thank you. Thank you very much. Once again, this is this has
been good and I am going to have my eyes open for for more about
this movie. Also, I think I'm gonna go I'm gonna go back and
watch Hollywood shuffle. That was I remember that was so
funny. I was so good. Robert Townsend men are fantastic and
if and informative as all great satire, of course, a lot of
truth in
and wish and so the the underlying message here is that
when there needs to be a revolution, the revolution has
been taking place for a while I think the internet is
facilitating it. Most people have slipped into the mainstream
version of the internet with apps and iPhones and, and
colorful pictures and things that you think are important and
the only way to go. And that's just not true. And this is the
perfect example of it. This is a program that is done completely
void of any corporate interest, which also means it's perilous
because we need to fund this for the work to continue. So I will
pitch again that we have a value for value model. If you got any
value from this, if this is something you're going to tell
your friends about talking about around the water cooler. By the
way, tread lightly, he got to ease into it, he's into it. It's
always always got to be careful you don't want to alienate
people right away. It's not it's not easy. Then you need to
support it. And please do that by sending whatever you felt
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Whatever that value was send that to us here at mo fax with
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me.com mo e fund me.com Thank you again mo this was fantastic.
And as I always say pay attention to everything and the
truth will reveal itself
and we will be back next week I'm traveling Monday so we'll
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when I get back or Sunday Tuesday, but we will be back
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