For more facts with Adam curry for October 21 2019. This is
episode number 12. And this morning, something strange
happened at 7:31am I got a text message from my partner in
crime, who said, Hey, man, let's talk about the title today what
we're going to be doing. Good morning, Moe. How are you?
Hi. How you doing, sir? I'm doing I'm doing well. Yeah, so I
really
appreciate your call. He said, Okay, man, we're going for the
mother lode. This is the big one. Just want to let you know,
I don't want you to be blindsided now.
So go for the big one here. Yes,
the big one is,
is white privilege. Nice, white, white guilt, white supremacy.
It's the trifecta. Very nice. Yes.
You can't discuss one without the other. That's right. That's
right.
This is something that I've been very interested in. I've, I've
posited my own theories about not so much about the origin of
white guilt. But what white guilt has done to wokeness. Or
perhaps I would say, created wokeness. And it's very
interesting to me, man, I am excited to hear what you've got
to roll out for
us. So this this start, oh, we got a lot of clips today. So I
want to jump right in. So this started with a DM you sent me
from a New York Times article talking about the effects of
white guilt on the 2020 election. So I was gonna do this
last week. But the NBA and China,
it was it was it had to go we had to get it on then. And by
the way, we finished that show. Just before LeBron James came
out with his whole like, well, you know, who could have hurt
someone financially. So that was we didn't get it in that show.
But it was interesting how it unfolded.
It was very interesting. Hi unfolded. And one thing I didn't
notice that came up was shut up in dribble white supremacy or
any other kowtow into the powers that be know exactly. That goes
to show you people pick and choose when they want to use
these terms. So what we're going to talk about today is white
guilt. And to talk about white guilt, we have to go back, we
always have to go back to the root of these things. So I found
it on the root of white guilt. Is White supremacy. For the
people that don't know. found it interesting. It was a well, you
want to call it a speaking engagement by Mr. Shelby Steele.
Are you familiar with Mr. Shall we still sir? No,
I don't think so. Alright, so
shall we still he's, he's the conservative, I have to say
that. He's the author and senior fellow at Stanford University.
And he wrote the book on white guilt, the actual book on white
guilt,
and what is the book called white guilt? Yes. Okay. All
right.
So he was given a speech and not this, the speech that he gave,
or speaking against a speaking engagement that he gave is going
to be the backdrop of this whole show. So we're gonna go in and
out of that speaking engagement, and then have supplemental
clips. Okay. So what he's saying what he's saying the
the title of the book is white guilt, how blacks and whites
together destroyed the pomp promise of the civil era. Yes.
Okay. Got it.
So I guess we'll jump right in with white supremacy. One
is begins it seems to me in a phenomenon that, I think at any
rate is one of the most important important events
certainly in in late 20th century history. I think, even
more important than the collapse of communism. That happened in
the 80s. And that is the collapse or the de
legitimization to use the long awkward word of white supremacy.
And it's, it has seemed it's interesting to me that this this
phenomenon has gone unremarked on commented on in many ways.
But white supremacy was an enormously important force idea
in the world for centuries and organized the entire globe and
an extended the nation state system from one end of the world
to the other so it's it's mark will will never leave the world.
And it gave a cohere Hear us to the world.
All right, I love it history lesson.
Yes. So he's speaking about how white supremacy supposedly he's
a believer. Let me clarify, he's a believer that white supremacy
ended, are basically went underground and had no power
after the Civil Rights Movement, which is my personal belief. I
don't think that's to be so I am not a white supremacy denier.
But I want to, in this show, clearly, clearly define what I
believe is to be white supremacy. And the reason why
that is important to white guilt is, let me explain the relation
between the three things that we laid out, we have white
supremacy, white privilege, and then white guilt. The way they
are related is that if there is a system of white supremacy
desist, if you appear to be quote unquote, white, then you
unknowingly, or normally receive privileges from being a camp to
that system. Right. And also from being a camp to that
system, and receiving those privileges. Some people are made
to feel guilty of that. So that's the relation between the
three
and that sounds about right. And it was, for me, it was I'm gonna
say about four years ago, my now wife, then, girlfriend at the
time, Tina, we had a dinner at here in Austin with some people
I affectionately called the Obama bots. And they knew that
and, you know, we discussed pretty much politics and
everything like that specifically. So I would have
content for the no agenda Show podcast, so it was okay with
them. But at this one particular dinner, there was a professor
from UT Austin Pennebaker, I'm actually a big fan of what he's
done with performative, he wrote a book about, well, you should
look it up performative. Then Professor Pennebaker and his
wife were both there. And at a certain point, he said, Excuse
me, you've got white privilege, you know that right? And no one
had ever said that, to me, I'd never really even heard the
term. And I was offended by him saying that, that now since that
time, of course, you know, a lot has happened. I've kept my eyes
and my ears open. But I do remember the initial, the
initial accusation to me was triggering. And that's just a
little bit of history what I have.
And I can see why that would be triggering. The term white
privilege didn't really circulate in the black
community. That term now the understanding that
according to Wikimedia, according to Wikipedia, it
didn't really start until black lives matter. Now. That's wiki
pedia. So take that with what you want. But I
believe that's when even if it existed, it may exist in the
academic, academic realm, where in everyday life, you know, a
minute, that seems like white privilege, you know, what black
guy talks like that?
We know, we know. For instance, I'll give you a great example of
what white privilege would be. One guy gets hot water outside
crack, and he gets 20 years and another guy gets caught with an
ounce of coke. And he gets a slap on the wrist.
Yeah, this is a very clear case of I mean, the whole thing was
messed up. And that's mainly the crack epidemic in Los Angeles.
And the elites who decided that there was a difference between
crack you know, as Whitney Houston would say, crack is
wack. And by the classy cocaine, so it was a classist thing in a
way and a price point thing, but of course, it was. It was a it
screwed over black people in Los Angeles who are addicted to
crack for sure.
Yes, and we see how another drug epidemic, the opioid epidemic
has been handled. It's a white, white problem. So we can't say
these things don't exist. But let's not get too far ahead of
ourselves. Because what we need to do is one identify if we have
to what I plan to do with this whole show, our episode is to
one identify accurately identify and define what white supremacy
is right now. Because then if people understand what that is,
then they'll understand what the white privileges are or what a
white privilege appears to be. And then how people bastardize
these terms and accurately on personal gain and or to trigger
other people
and I would want to ask up front, maybe this is coming
later down the road. White supremacy is also often inter
intertwined with the term institutional racism? Are these
the same things? Is it the same? Or we will just would just
Should I just sit back and relax and we'll find out what? Well,
let's
go through these next set of clips. And then we'll, we will
clearly identify what white supremacy is, by the end of
next, like three or four clips, let's get into Shelby Steele,
white supremacy to
the important thing, I think to understand about white
supremacy, is not whether or not it really is an argument for the
supremacy of whites or the inferiority of other races. But
what was important about it was the idea that whiteness
constituted in and of itself, moral authority. And so that if
a black man in Africa met a white man on a path somewhere,
and there were no there was no one around within 50 miles, the
black man would have to carry the white man's bags, because
whiteness was authority. And, and thus it was in those it was
power. And so whites then could, could very given given that
authority could very reasonably go around the world and take
over whatever territories they they desired and to take
whatever resources they desired. And to then sort of corral the
people into some sort of servitude if it's so suited them
well, so you see, it was a really powerful, enormously
powerful idea that made gave a certain meaning to life
in the world. Right? This is the times of colonialism I presume.
This is from colonialism all the way up to the Civil Rights is
what he's speaking of. Now, where me and Mr. Shelby Steele
part ways is he believes that white supremacy no longer
exists. Or like I say, it has become so cleanse debt
clandestine that it doesn't really have any power. That's
where I disagree with him. So now we're going to get into some
some clips from Mr. Neely Fuller, Mr. Neely fuller. Let me
give you some background on him. He's well highly touted Mr.
Neely fuller Jr. His full name he was born in October 6 1929.
So just to give you a from his age perspective, he served in
two branches of the armed forces. He served in the Army in
the Korean War conflict. Um so he, he took part in the American
dream. He took part in you know, in fighting wars for America. So
I think that gives him certain validity to his statements.
Because he could speak he could speak from probably accurately
from all angles on this topic. And when I'm when I bring people
like Mr. Shelby Steele to the table or Mr. Neely fuller says
table, it's just on that particular topic. They speak
home. So myself, I believe Neely Fuller, accurately defines
racism, racism and white supremacy.
Well, there's we are on our system of white supremacy.
That's the most powerful government that the world has
ever seen. And that's the title of it. By the way, it doesn't go
by now the title even though we sometimes call it by other
titles, but the accurate title for the government that we are
under is in the capital letters, the system of white supremacy
worldwide. It's just one world government. And that's the only
government in town knowing the government on the planet that
really counts. That is worthy of having a title of government.
Whoa, okay, hold
on. While while he was saying this is the One World Government
which is a very globalist term familiar without of course New
World Order. I looked up the definition of supremacy and it's
a while this Ascendance domination, Dominion hegemony,
Imperium examples of supremacy in a sentence the Roman Empire
had supremacy over the entire Mediterranean world. Yes, yes.
Yes. Yes. It seems he worried there he were there am higher
than empire. Yes, sir. Okay, great. Oh, man. I love the
dictionary.
So I think this is why me and you Adam could have these
Conversations, because we're coming and identifying the same
thing by different terms. Even Mr. Fuller even identify, so you
can call it different names. I think you call it a elitism or
the elites. But there is a governing system in this world.
And a one world government is trying to trick being trying to
be pushed. Yes, and
this is a frequent topic for us on this show. It's a frequent,
you're right, it is why we have always been able to communicate
completely at the same level, because we hold the same beliefs
of, of this type of shenanigans going on.
And that's why when I first became an NA listener, I
understood exactly what you guys were saying, even though you
were calling this system by a different name. So let's go on
and let Neely fuller. Define the system, even more
people who believe in dominating and mistreating people based on
color, in the form of what we call racism, or white supremacy.
Those people collectively, are the dominant force in all nine
areas of activity on this planet that we call are in every area
of activity, 24/7 economics, education, entertainment, labor,
law, politics, religion, sex, and war. And they believe in
dominating and mistreating people based on color. They are
the smartest and most powerful men and women on the planet.
Unfortunately, that's the way it is.
Where's the list? Give me the list of these people that have
the least
he said, it's these dominant men and women give me the list right
away. I want to know who it is. Because that's what I've been
looking for, for at least 30 years.
Well, we know who it is, and we don't know who it is. We have no
idea who it is. I mean, we point to almost every show. It's this.
It's the Soros is of the world. And even the level above him. I
think we use Soros as a icon of a way of thinking,
yeah, representation. Sure. Absolutely. Right.
Right. So we use him as a to point to like, this is how they
work. This is how they operate. But you don't have to be in
this. This is where we get into race and color and these things.
You don't have to be white, to operate and be a agent of white
supremacy. The reason why I say this is Barack Obama was an
agent of white supremacy. Yep. He pushed the agenda of
globalism. When you go to the UN, you see many faces of
different colors. But they're pushing they received their
power from this power structure. And they they do the bidding of
that power structure. And I think those people are even more
beneficial when they don't look like your typical iconic, for
lack of better word white supremacist, and I know we're
using that word a lot. But for the people that get triggered by
that we have something for Adam.
Oh, yes. If you got something we got? We got. But if I get
triggered, then I hit this one. What more do you want from me?
What what's what's what's interesting? What's interesting
is that now I lost my train. Alright, go continue. Well, I'll
come back to as good
now. So just the system, like I said, it's a system, if you want
to call it elite, if you want to call it the Illuminati, if you
want to call I mean, it's a elite. And we have to be honest,
as you go up this pyramid, pun intended. The appearance is
start to look the same. Now to do a one to one correlation to
say all everybody that looks like that benefits from this
system. I think that's pretty inaccurate. They can move
inconspicuously in the system, but I don't think they benefit
from it. The reason why I say that is and this will always say
why American slavery was different from any other
slavery, probably in the world or in history. Even if I bought
my freedom in American slavery, I will always be identified as a
slave by my appearance. Whereas throughout history, my enslaved
my the people that slave me, will look like Let me do two, we
were, you know, geographically close or, you know, are just
different tribes or different clans or countries. So I think
that's the difference. Why color and race factor into this form
of empire?
Right. Whereas I think I've always made it clear that we're
all really slaves of Gitmo nation. And I think that's kind
of what I mean by there's a system up there, and you know,
we're all and we all have to adhere to it, or we're expected
to adhere to it, regardless of color.
What's the Comenius? 90 says? It's the club a when, when
George Carlin
had to be a band, you ain't in it? Right?
Very few of us are in it. So let's get let's finish out with
Mr. Neely fuller as if coop? Oh, let me say this. So we, I think
he's accurately identified what this system is. And I think me
and you agree that there is a governing body over the world
that may call the shots. Now, we might call it different names.
But I think we're identifying the same ruling class.
Absolutely. So Mr. Neely Fuller, is gonna lay out how you fix
that problem.
Now, that's a problem. It's a huge problem, because nobody on
the planet should be dominated and mistreated based on
anything, whether it's coal or anything else. But that's what
this alone is a system that we have on the planet, we don't
have any other system. There are no other systems, none. Zilch.
So, the question is, what would you please replace that system
with? Logically speaking, since it is a system of non justice,
you replace it with a system of justice, which means what? Two
elements according to what I have written anyway, and that is
guarantee end, no person is mistreated. And guaranteeing
that the person that needs help the most gets the most
constructive help. Now, that's what you go to the table with
each and every day each and every time, wherever you are on
the planet. That that's the kind of plan that you want.
Okay, so we've seen this word pop up. Justice. Yes, this is a
favorite word of left. In the United States. Certainly the
Democrats always talk about justice, this justice that
whereas the right or the Republicans always talk about
liberty, and freedom, and
justice is a big now you can Yes, now you can see why how
it's being hijacked. Right? Because at the real root of the
problem, and this goes back to two shows ago, when we talked
about the the cop shooting case, yep. All everyone wanted was
justice, or what they perceived to be justice. And when that
doesn't happen, it only in flames, that the system exists
or appears to exist. Now, we dug deeper and understood the
interacting so that the case, but on the outer surface, yeah.
Yeah, absolutely. Yes. Go I'm sorry. Yeah, social justice.
Well, this is where social justice warriors come from, of
course. Yes. Makes sense.
Yeah, so Dude, we've heard we hear people talk about this all
the time. And we heard in recent news, even a political candidate
of the 2020 election talk about this one being Mrs. Tulsi
Gabbard. Gabbard, excuse me, the regime change wars. What is
that? When you go in to change the way a country is running
itself, just off of the benefits to economics, that is an example
of this system.
Oh, yes. And no, by and this goes back, you know, a long
time. But I would start for the US just in recent memory, the
Vietnam War, you know, so what's the commies? Oh, man, we can't
have the communist coming. Any closer to our interests in the
Middle East as well, I think is generally accepted by the
population now that oh, well, that was just about oil or
something. But in in essence, it was it's much bigger. And going
back to the Paris 1912 agreement and how the Middle East was
divided up that was done by the white privilege system. Isn't
there's no doubt about it. No one can argue that.
So this is where, like I said before, Shelby Steele, he says
that the system of white supremacy no longer is This war,
I think is I think that it shifted. It became not by force
or by intimidation. It became economic. As we've all read in
the book, whoever read the book, the economic hitman, John
Perkins, one of my favorite books, yes, they infiltrate the
country's. They leverage the people in charge. And then the
people in charge basically becomes puppets of the systems
of the system. So we have a clip from the economic hitman
himself.
It is catching up with John Perkins economist, activist and
author, one of his best selling books, Confessions of an
economic hitman has been translated into over 30
languages, it is an insider's account of the alleged
exploitation of third world countries by the American
government. Sir, thank you very much for sitting down with us.
You have been an economic hitman for about 10 years. What
exactly does that job entail? We economic hitmen have created the
world's first truly global empire? And is the first empire
in history that's been created primarily without the military
through economics?
Yes, this is he worked for Bechtel Corporation, very
similar, or even KBR. These are the Kellogg, brown and root.
These are the companies that with or without war, go into
other countries, either take stuff, buy stuff, bring in
Western companies to rebuild the rubble that has been created and
take over. And he also speaks of the jackals who they will send
in when people in these other countries resist to the regime
change.
So you have a list of countries that were planned to be
destabilize in Roblox is the word you like to use?
Yes, I call it I call it the West Clark seven. And I have the
clip, if you want me to play that I don't.
Because you do that as a background just to show how we
identify Not we, but how the Empire identifies countries they
need to take over and then they come up with a reason how to do
it.
Yeah. So let me just make sure I get the right one here. General
Wesley Clark, two weeks after 911 was called, I think, into
the Pentagon. And it was there that he was handed a note that
talked about the countries we were going to go after, because
of this 911 disaster. And he was kind enough to actually tell us,
so I came back to see him a few weeks later. And by that time,
we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, Are we still going to
war with Iraq? And he said, Oh, what's worse than that? He said,
He reached over on his desk, he picked up a piece of paper. He
said, I just he said I just got this down from upstairs mean,
circulated Vince's office today. And he said this a memo that
describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five
years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya,
Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran.
And I've kept track of this list. And just recently, in
fact, we talked about it yesterday on the no agenda show.
It looks like Lebanon may be on deck, we've got pretty much
every other country. If not that we've gone in there. We've We've
got them in our sights. And that's obvious. You know, the
final, the final one on the list, there is Iran. So that
would be the big one. And well, and you only have to look at the
news to know what's going on. So yeah, it's the system has not
slowed down since General Wesley Clark mentioned those seven
countries.
So either he had a crystal ball, or those countries were
identified as targets. And we were just looking for a reason
or a way in to attack those countries. So we have another
clip from the economic hitman. And he details the process of
how they actually take over countries.
And we work many different ways economic hitman, but perhaps the
most common is that we will identify a third world country
that has resources our corporations covet, like oil,
and then arrange a huge loan to that country from the World Bank
or one of its sister organizations, but the money
never actually goes to the country. Instead, it goes to our
own corporations to build big infrastructure projects in that
country. Things like power plants and industrial parks and
highways, the benefit of few wealthy families in that
country, as well as our own corporations, but don't help the
majority of the people. The whole country is less holding
this huge debt.
Being so it's all so it's all about debt. It's all about
leverage. And He said third world countries, and most of the
third world countries are people of color, which I hate that
term. But
well, no, why you are? You're correct. And we have even more
recent examples of this. With the European Union, Greece was
completely obliterated economically, financially and
targeted by the International Monetary Fund. Big hedge funds,
Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, and the place is still in shambles.
We're going on 15 years now, of what's been happening there. And
yes, the Greeks are a little darker than the Northern
Europeans.
And I'll as I always say, specifically, I just could speak
from my group of people, we feel the impact first, we're kind of
like, let's run the test plan on them. And if it works, then we
will take it abroad, or we'll take it and then eventually, it
filters out until all of all of the population of noni leaves.
So we've seen this, and we've been telling people that when
you hear terms like the man or the suits, right, oh, wow. What
is that referring to?
them? Are they? There's a lot of them? They Yeah,
sure. Right. So um, let's finish up with the economic hitman.
And it's such a big debt that they can't repay it. So at some
point, we economic hitmen go back to them and say, you can't
pay your debts. So give us a pound of flesh, sell your oil,
real cheap to our oil companies, or vote with us on the next
critical United Nations vote, were sent troops and supportive
hours to someplace in the world like Iraq, when we fail, then
what we call the jackals step in and these are people who
overthrow governments or assassinate their leaders. And
on the very few occasions when both economic hitmen and the
jackals fail, as we both did in Iraq, then and only then does
the military step in. And it's pretty secret, because most
people in the United States don't realize that they're
reaping the benefits from this empire, they don't realize about
the exploitation of resources and environments and people and
sweatshops and so on all over the world are a result of this.
I think it's fair to say that this process is a huge threat to
democracy. And if the majority of the people who vote in the
country don't understand this most basic principle of our
foreign policy, then we're not informed. If we're not informed
as to how to say that we're voting truly democratically,
which I think is a big concern.
You know, as he talks in, it just reminds me of his book,
which is still one of my favorites. It's interesting that
the Chinese are adhering to a complete economic hitman
operation mainly across Africa, but many other countries. Okay,
I hit something there. Yes, maybe across Africa. Yes. Now,
this is not white privilege, per se. Because you can't say the
Chinese are white. But, you know, Caucasian. I've wondered
when once someone told me, Hey, you know, you're Caucasian and
like, Oh, okay. So there's a relation there, perhaps.
And there's a color spectrum there. Yeah. In Asia, the higher
you go up, the closer to, quote unquote, white that you get. And
this is where colorism comes in. All the shows that we had
previous to this
is just it's just been this is the crescendo. This is the
climax is the
climax. And when when, when the economic hitman going into those
countries or the country, they speak to the Boulais. Yeah,
every country, every creative man had a Boulais to say, You
know what, we see the bigger picture. You know, somebody's
got a bit of benefit from this Washington to be us. And then
we'll help our people in the end, and we saw that and my
group of people, it was people that took deals on our behalf.
And then when they didn't want to comply, they say in the
actual hitman, or the jackals, right. So I mean, it's, this is
what we're looking at. So, mister, going back to Mr. Shelby
Steele and him and his speech, and he's going to speak on civil
rights.
In 1964. We passed the civil rights bill in the United States
in 1965. We passed the voting rights, the Voting Rights Act.
Both of these acts these in the I think they are some of the
greatest social legislation never passed anywhere in the
world ever written anywhere in the world. There the model for,
for other such legislation around the world. And inherent
in the in this legislation was the acknowledgement on the part
of America, that it had done something very wrong, that
racism was wrong, that slavery was wrong that segregation was
wrong, that white supremacy itself was wrong. I think this
was America's greatest moment. Here was a nation that morally
came to terms with itself faced itself. I'm not aware of this,
maybe it has happened, but I'm not aware of it anywhere else in
the world before this happening. We're a society, rich and
powerful looks at itself examines itself in the way that
America did at that period of time, and makes the decision to
change and acknowledges the wrong and vows to become a
different kind of society.
It's interesting how such a seminal moment in American
history is used as such a club these days just to beat people
over the head with
Yes, and it was it. I'm gonna sound cynical, but was it a
seminal moment? The reason why I asked it asked that question is,
he said, this country took a look at yourself and plying a
reflection or a mirror. Adam, do you know what that mirror was?
Huh? No. The television screen?
I feel like a dope. That was an E it was like that was another
ally you for the curry Meister? Yes, of course. Of course. And
telephone a lot to do with that. Yes, sir.
When these images started making their way on television, whether
they were staged are naturally occurring. It made people feel
one one shame. Because like, how, how can this happen? Oh,
and two, way out of shame comes guilt. Correct? Yes. So we start
seeing the correlations here. Yes, yes. So let's go and look
at the role of media in the civil rights.
As a story, the Civil Rights Movement had it all. Good versus
evil, drama, social upheaval. But at first America's major
media ignored it, especially in the South.
It was our responsibility to find a way to dramatize the
issue
was Congressman John Lewis says that the movements leaders
realized to bring change, they needed to reach white Americans.
How did you do that?
As a movement. We literally put our bodies on the line.
Jim fluence on the Civil Rights coverage,
Hank klibanoff co wrote the race beat a book about the media and
the movement.
Well, race was a big story in the south beginning in the 40s
and 50s. It's just that no one knew about it.
Finally, by 1957 Major northern newspapers discover the drama
and the story. How do you feel about integrated passengers that
television networks followed, even major southern media paid
attention to the open hatred, you got to kick the white in the
black set and the violent response to peaceful protest?
If you're gonna beat us, beat us in the light of day, beat us
while the cameras on
on gov. This was Selma, Alabama, 1965. Among the bloodied John
Lewis,
American people could not stand to see young children and all
women being knocked down by fire hoses and chased by police
stole.
Yeah, you know. I'm just a little bit too young to have
witnessed all that until I have other experiences from the from
the late 60s, which we may get into later. But yeah, oh, man,
of course. You when You showed normal, rational people what was
going on and how people were willing to put themselves into
the line of fire, so to speak, it definitely had an impact.
Very powerful.
Yeah, and so even John Lewis said, we had to dramatize Yeah,
his words. Yeah, dramatize even so much so. Ah. Rosa Parks
wasn't in the first Rosa Parks.
Oh, man. Mo don't blow my mind now.
Claudette Colvin? Oh, yes,
I do know this name, of course. Uh huh.
Make sure I have the name right. I know how the story right? But
yeah Clotet COVID Si, si o l Vi n, if you want to look at who
for those who don't look it up. She was the original Rosa Parks.
Only problem is one she had illegitimate children. So she
didn't make for
the perfect. She's not the not the right casting for the role.
Right also some say some slightly esteemed ether, that
she was too dark for the role as well, because we all know Rosa
Parks was fair skinned. And it happened to be a work for the
NAACP. Right. So I mean, just to go show you the dramatization,
not taking anything away from these people that like I say he
they put their bodies on the line. But if you understand that
television is going to be a problem. And there's there's a
correlation here because we've seen the civil rights movement.
With the technology increasing with television, we see a one on
one correlation with the the increase in technology with the
new television, ie the smartphone and outrage, and
Silviu social justice movements
only now it's a lot, it's a lot easier to mess with people's
brains and social media. It's so ready just to put stuff into
people's heads and imagery and memes is really important in
this means, oh, my goodness, you know, the modern carrier
will say the same thing about they will say the same thing
about television. And those times Absolutely. Where it was,
he said there used to be just a picture in the newspaper, maybe
a radio story. But now when you could put motion picture, people
being blown over by water hoses, dogs attacking them, it was very
beneficial to, to the movement, enact that chain. Well.
In fact, to this day, this type of tactic is being used with
Hong Kong, where messages are being are circulating everywhere
of Tiananmen Square. There's no one photo that shows dead bodies
will just run over by tanks. And you know, this is brought into
this Hong Kong situation continuously. Just as an aside
mo very interesting to me that Claudette Colvin has no
Wikipedia entry. That tells you something right there, doesn't
it? Yeah.
But it's funny that you say about the memes and the visuals.
Because in Hong Kong, the eyepatch. Yeah, is the is the
imagery or the symbolism for Hong Kong now. Yeah, so much so
and it's finished. This is funny, and we won't get back on
track here that the One World System is eating itself, because
now they're pulling all the one eye Illuminati symbolism because
they're scared above me now.
Oh, my goodness, I hadn't even hadn't even thought about that.
The one the all seeing eye and the eye patch.
You know, the models they love to do the
Yeah. The triangle and
all that crap. Yes, they're pulling it all because here to
be symbolism to Hong Kong. Nice. Alright, so getting back to the
media and the civil rights movement, movement to we will
drama
times this whole situation by marching by the 1000s.
Television also found Martin Luther King's, the Reverend
Martin Luther King, Jr. will face the nation, Americans heard
a leader who shattered racial stereotypes.
We feel that the time has come for a full scale assault on the
system of segregation.
This man is someone you could actually talk to and who seemed
quite reasonable for white Southerners. This was new
information and part of a national awakening.
It was the media that carried a message to the rest of the
nation.
Protest became progress once the media woke up. And Americans
Rosa. Mark Strassman, CBS News, Atlanta.
dramatized dramatize right off the bat. Yeah.
So So we've seen how
I'm sorry. For his many times. I've heard Martin Luther King
speeches. It never hit me. When he said dramat They'd never hit
me. And just now Oh, okay. Of course. He was, you know, he's
the 60s version of memes.
And he was perfect for the role. It was young. Great, great
voice. Great. You're saying, Ah, awesome. Speaker. And just he
would like to say perfect for the role that they were looking
for a young, a young black articulate man, that was camera
friendly, friendly.
When you said that. I'm sorry, when you say he was perfect for
what they were looking for.
Yes, they being Balete. Just checking that yeah, the day
pretty much. Yeah, big vague. Gotcha. Yeah. So and but what
was his message nonviolence? Not gonna cause too much trouble. He
was palatable, too, to the what? What was the other option?
Yeah, well, he also had got on his side that made that easier.
Yes.
So this is the source of shaming. And like I said,
before, we look at the relationship between shaming and
guilt. So now we go back to Mr. Shelby Steele, and he explains
to us further what white guilt is.
So White guilt, then is not a guilt of conscience. It's not,
um, I can't sleep at night, because I'm so guilty about what
happened to black Americans before I was born, it's not that
kind of if White guilt was that, then we wouldn't be here today
talking about this, this phenomenon, but it is this
vacuum of moral authority, just not be not having the authority
to be able to speak about any number of issues, race, poverty,
and so forth, because of having acknowledged this, this past,
the sins of the past. White Guilt is enforced, by us by
stigma. When when you acknowledge that you were a part
of a group that you belong to a group that did it wrong in the
past, think if you want to, I think see this in vivid terms,
think of the Germans after World War Two, the stigma of having
been a Nazi having a Nazi in your family, an uncle who was
whatever? Well, you might not, you might yourself not have been
a Nazi might not might never have subscribe to that point of
view. But outside of Germany, all Germans, in a sense became
from from then on stigmatized by the sin of Nazism. And other
people could look at them and have a certain again, moral
authority in relation to them. Well, in many ways, I think
that's what happened in in America, whites became
stigmatized, as as racist. And from that point on, whites are
in the position of forever having to prove the negative,
that they're not a racist.
Wow, this is very good. And I hadn't considered that
comparison. Having grown up in the Netherlands, where many of
my friends grandparents had, you know, spheroid numbers tattooed
on their forearms from from the concentration camp. You know,
there were Germans in Holland all the time, either on business
or vacationing. And as I grew older, you know, we had Germans
who we'd be friends with or whatever. And it was, to me at
least always obvious, they were really trying to be nice. You
know, they were the new Germans. And I think someone actually
said it to me one time to get where the new German Shannon
this is, and they definitely are very cognizant of their past.
And and yeah, I guess it is a form of oh, man, we were really
assholes in the in the past. And so I just want you to know,
we're not like that. We're cool, man. We're okay, we're, but
still, and this is where it gets tough. These grandparents, that
would always be wary, that he's German, you know, so there was
this period, before everybody dies off. It takes a while. And
I think now, rarely does anyone even make a joke about Germans
being Nazis, whereas that used to be kind of normal. You could
say to a German guy. Yeah, I know how you'd like to dominate.
You know, you could say that stuff, and you'd have a good
laugh over it. But now that's kind of gone. And that so that's
in less than, you know, so what is that? 80 7080 years, and
that's kind of gone. But very important. I think for this. You
can't tell by looking at someone if they're German or not.
Exactly. And that's what I was speaking about before with the,
the color people or people of color versus non people of
color, right? That you can't. And I use this term before, but
I didn't use it in jest. closeted you know, you could be
a closeted German, you know, yes, exactly exactly. Where with
me like I said back in what you can be a
closeted German easily I mean no one would know
so this is where we get to with the guilt, the shame, and it's
like proof prove you're not a racist Adam prove this you're
not a racist investor conversation proving
a negative is impossible I okay now I want to tell this story
1969 I'm five years old. We're living in Kensington, Maryland.
And you know, and it's this morning, your phone call
actually triggered this. And also I'm writing my book. And so
you know, things are coming into my mind that I haven't thought
about. So I'm five and I don't. And you don't really remember
much when you're when you're five, but I remember very
distinctly a feeling I had. My parents were both government
employees. And it was I think it was a Saturday. No, I'm sure it
was a Saturday, they said, Hey, we're having some colleagues
come over from work. And you know, there'll be here. I don't
know if they said they were black. But it was a family of
four mom, dad, son, daughter. And they were colleagues. They
also state government employees. And I remember they were so
dressed up like son and we went to church on Sundays by any a
Unitarian Church. Okay, we went to church, and, and I remembered
them all dressed up. You know, like Sunday best and like, why?
Thank you for ringing that bell. And, and that moment, I and I'm
trying to bring it up now. I felt I felt very emotional about
it. I don't know if it was wow. You know, and they weren't
really talkative. You know, they were like, yes. And a lot of
Yes, yes. Do Yes, sir. No, ma'am. All the likes really
being on their Sunday best and, and my, my sister was very
young, but I was like, I just want to hang out and play. And I
remember feeling not guilty. Be honest with him. I think I felt
sorry. And I and I didn't know anything about the civil rights.
And I'm five, you know, I'm fine. And I don't think I'd
really interacted with black kids. Certainly not in
Kensington, Maryland at the time, I'm sure that's changed
now. And that's what I felt. And I and it was very odd to me. But
it was not just color. But it was the whole thing. You know,
the being extra, extra dressed up and extra and like, didn't
make sense to me. I hope that it's coming out. If you
understand what I'm saying here,
the reason why I rang my bell, I'm going to be on the opposite
side of that conversation. This is a phenomenon that I grew up
under. When we went somewhere, you look your best. It wasn't
the fact that all you want to impress white people, is the
fact that we're not going to feed into the stereotypes. We're
going to defeat the stereotypes. So you had to be art every day.
But that's really weird because all I wanted was for another kid
to show up with a Schwinn bike, you know, it's like hey, man,
let's go have a run around the neighborhood. So it had an
adverse effect on me at the time.
Well, this is the conversation no ask for anything. Don't
embarrass us that you get in the car. And I was telling my wife I
was like you know the weird thing now is and I can say no,
when I do generalities, generalities is just for the
sake of conversation of course you know
who you know who does that now, the newly immigrated we go to
when we go to school functions, all the kids you know like
calling out like I may say if it calls for like a core course
recital. They have a white shirt, black pants, you know,
black shoes, the girls wear dresses, the newly immigrated
you can identify them because the way they dress right arrays
so neat is so clean you know Wellcamp and they you look at
the American cute quote unquote American kids it's like well,
and subsequently just just attack arm that when it comes to
clothing. Of course, every black guy I've known is much better at
doing clothes than I am and when I went to college and my
roommate as black, I learned how to wash and dry and fold Uh, and
you know, so that's just it's a purely cultural difference, but
man, I'm happy for it.
Yeah, my grandma show me how to iron it like Tim Yeah, 19 years
old. I mean, because he's the way you carry yourself. And that
and that comes from like I said, that generational thing you
mostly your grandparents and parents, like, you know, we're
new. Black people weren't new, the integrator at this period. I
mean, if you really want to, I mean it to decide,
this is 1969. Mo, this is, you know, this is right, right after
it all went down, you know,
right. I mean, I know from from people, oh, what you mean by
immigrants? Because we were right on the fringe of society.
And now we were allowed. And so it's like, we had the same
mentality as newly immigrated people now that are observed,
but what
you just hit home for me, you said, you're in the car, don't
ask questions. Don't embarrass us. That if that'll, by the way,
that'll fuck you up as a kid.
Well, you got to understand what's riding on that wheel? It
will. Yeah, it will. I'm not saying won't with my age. The
whole race is riding on your shoulders. Yeah, we you go into
environments. And you know what, to be honest with you. During
this podcast. I feel that. Well, good,
because it does. Without this podcast, we devolve into race
war. So yes, we're right. Right. We are holding up the country
and the universe Mo.
Yes. So, Dr. Phil, he feels that he needs to chime in. And this
is telling you how far the white conversation white privilege
conversation had went when it starts to infiltrate daytime
television. So Dr. Phil, he goes and tries to define what is
white privilege,
let's start out by defining white privilege and what it is
and what it is not. Now, first definition, Privilege is a
special right or advantage, or immunity granted, or available
only to a particular person or group. Now, when we say
privilege, that just means that it's something that exist, it's
not something that somebody created or grabbed, right?
Think about this, the famous story by David Foster Wallace,
he said to Fisher, in the ocean, swimming along, they meet a
elderly fish coming in other way. And he says, Good morning
boys, how's the water, they go along a little piece they go
what's water, when you're in it, you don't recognize that you're
in it, you derive your existence from it, you derive your
sustenance from it. So it's a set of practices and privileges
based upon skin color is based upon assumptions about who
people are. So that's what privileges Yeah.
All right, and we're talking here that the privilege is we
said it goes to a group or an individual. And we're talking
about the group being white here. And so white privilege,
we're talking about inherent advantages, possessed by a white
person on the basis of their race in a society that's
characterized by racial inequality or injustice. So the
fish you're talking about here are white folks that are
swimming in a society and they don't realize that this endures
to their benefit, but it's not that they said, I'm going to
position myself in a way that I have this advantage it just
exists all around them
all right. They sent a bunch of nothing their
fish water, it's all on fee.
And like I said, one of my favorite guys to ridicule Dr.
Michael Eric Dyson, with his word salad. And that's the
problem. have a real conversation. Right? Me and you
are having a real conversation. We're sharing personal
experiences. You let me know what the other side of that
conversation that we got into the guy in the car was about,
you know, um, let you know what it was about. But we used to do
this all we used to fish swimming, and he asked him what
water
we can't just talk about human beings. You got to take it to
fish right away in the water because I get Yeah, it's you
know, because it's probably too painful for people to look
inside themselves and identify with what's being said.
I call bullshit, excuse me for saying that. And reason one on
Dr. Michael Eric Dyson. He understands the World War One
World Government, but he's not gonna have that conversation
because he's an elite, or he's allowed to be in the elite
circle. He's not a really elite, but he's a pseudo elite. You
know, so he's not gonna step on any toes so he doesn't lose his
tenure at the you know, whatever universities that and he's not
going to be labeled a problem child. So he goes out here and
he makes people ordinary day people that don't really have
any power, feel guilt and shame. But when you put him on a panel
with a bunch of liberals that hold very stereotypical us
stereotypical views of black people. He wants challenge him.
That's why I'm in is people like that we got to get rid of they
gotta go. Yeah, here yeah, here gotta go because they're
standing in the way of people have real conversations that can
really bring about. And let me be clear. I mean we'll say one
thing here about oh, I'll wait to address that. But yeah, I
mean, you see here, you're on Dr. Phil, you have the platform
of broadcast television. And that's what you came with fish.
Fry? Yeah. So and that's what he always does is these long, want
to be effective communicator, you should be able to simply
communicate things. That way, a multitude of different people
can understand what you're saying on different levels.
Right.
But as you point out, he clearly was not authorized to do that
he's his task is different.
No, his task is to go out there and virtue signal and make white
people feel guilty. For whatever reason of this.
Oh, well, I don't know. Well, if I may insert one thing. In 1971,
talking about television, something very important
happened in American life. And that was all in the family. And
having Archie Bunker sit there and portray the seemingly
stereotypical white collar. Blue, I'm sorry, blue collar,
white working guy who hates the commies hates the Jews hates the
blacks. You know, that was a guilt. You know, like throwing
shade, it was throwing guilt all over the place. And it was the
number one show for almost a decade. And I think that did a
lot to the American psyche. I grew up watching it. I remember
my dad wrote a play version of all in the family that the
church, they performed it at the church, and it was riddled with
this kind of stuff. And it was totally intended to guilt white
people was also funny, but it was because it made you laugh at
yourself. But at the same time, it was I think, very important,
which we can and I'm not saying white people can atone, if you
truly feel that you've held some racist beliefs or, you know,
you've benefited from this system directly. You can atone
for it. I'm not saying that, but making people antagonizing
people. And it's done on both sides. Because what it does is
it creates this circular argument of, oh, this is how it
goes. A white man, you, you you, you have white privilege. And
then they say, Well, are you black people get welfare, and
I'll get welfare, you know, and then it is this nonsensical,
circular argument goes round and round and round.
It's worse. I'm sorry, I can laugh. It's worse mo it's worse.
White people will say to you, you've got white privilege.
Well, they want to not what what did Shelby Steele saying the
other one they want to prove the negative? This prove the
negative? It's like, oh, well, if I see a white guy and a black
guy arguing. I gotta take the black guy aside for fear of me
looking like a racist. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. So that that's
the root issue. Like I say it's non productive. I'm a solution
based person, we can fix a lot of the problems. One is, like I
say, we clearly realize there is a one world government and
people that did not that, that they're the
bigger problem. They're asleep, they got their eyes closed,
right are scared to say anything. But let's continue
with Dr. Phil and Dr. Abraham Martin,
the conversation doctor to become so difficult for so many
people because when they think of privilege, they think that
they should have socio economic advantage. So a lot of white
people say I don't have any kind of white privilege. I'm poor. I
had to stand in the food line. My family was on welfare. And so
they deny the existence of the privilege because they feel like
they have not reaping the financial benefits that are
usually associated with the word privilege.
Exactly. That's, that's the argument referred to their
images going around and around like a dog chasing his tail.
Yeah, we get nowhere
and I and I fell into that hole with it with the UT professor. I
fell right into it. And he's a professor You think these guys
know better? Well,
when you work in a liberal environment as a university, you
have to really disprove the negative right? To survive. I
mean, just talking about survival or,
or just say you're right. That's that's the easy way out. Yeah,
you're right, I guess right. I got white privilege. I'm a dick.
You're right.
So we're going back to Shelby Steele. And he's going to
elaborate more on white guilt.
And in a sense, since the since the, since the 60s, that's
pretty much what what has been what has happened is that
minorities have have begun to sort of manipulate that stick.
And so we can we call it in some circles to today, the race car,
play the race card, what is the race card mean? Well, if you
don't do what I'm what I want you to do, then you're going to
be stigmatized as a racist. And the price you'll pay is you'll
lose your, your legitimacy. So White Guilt is powerful, is a
powerful, powerful force, not because people feel guilty, but
because people are stigmatized, and again, have to have to prove
have to prove the negative all the time, and for living
forever, under threat of being stigmatized.
Wow, he nails it there.
nails it. And there's a key word that he used in there.
Minorities? Yeah. Off the back of the silver rights. And we've
seen this in the recent events with the trans and gay
employment bill,
or well, the Supreme Court case.
Yes, yes. We, we kicked the door open or, you know, black people
aid us kicked the door open for silver rights. We're are allowed
to open the door, how you want to look at it? Um, what were the
last the benefit from it? Is I everybody else like Oh, thank
you. Thank you. You're saying?
Let me hold the door. Hey, thanks for holding the door open
black people, right? Everybody? Yeah, you're right.
You know, um, as you see, cops, I haven't seen a single cop.
Shoot a trans person. I'm not saying it doesn't happen. I'm
just saying what they show us on the news is always a black male
being shot. Yeah, but Black Lives Matter has pivoted or
evolved or whatever you want to use to global warming. We, as we
heard in the previous clips on previous show of global warming,
intersectionality it's like what? I thought we were talking
about us and they do this same swish the sleight of hand trick.
It's like, oh, yeah, black man, you know, goes get sprayed down
by that water hoses and getting bitten by dogs. And then we'll
take that card, cross out race on it, and write in gender or
right so you're describing, you're describing the Democratic
Party right now at the moment Democrat party seems to be doing
a lot of this.
Yes. Yes. And that's why you know what, it's only one word
for it. It's disgusting. And I'm gonna tell people like this,
this is my view on it. White Guilt is disgusting to me. If
you want to atone for something, a town for you know, if you feel
like you need to do something to help out, you know, or you have
something to contribute to somebody you feel you've done
wrong, that's fine. But when you pander to me, I don't care who
you are. When you pander to me. I find that disingenuous. This
is just me personally speaking. It makes me look at you a
certain kind of way. Like why are you doing that? I mean,
like, what what are your real thoughts? I mean, like, why are
you and it goes in one of the clips you played on the NA show?
When they were like, oh, yeah, we got to take out 30 legals or
not documented immigrants, because Who's Who's gonna clean
our toilets? It's like what? Yeah, you know, so or the
pandering to me, is like, we have to do this for black people
because they can't do it for themselves. Right. I find that
very disingenuous. I'm not saying there's good people out
here with good causes that are genuinely skin in the game but
when you do this thing with just lip service and posting
hashtags, and don't you know, it's just like, oh, you putting
on this badge? It's just I find it very disgusting because what
do you think of me to make you do that? That's just my personal
Be honest with me. Be honest. Say you need to do issue you
asked me to do that? Are you do you know? Are you saying I'm
less than I've grown up with our shatter? If you'd be honest with
me,
well, I don't think anyone likes to be pander to, if you're
honest about it.
All they do, though, and we're going to see later in the show,
oh, they do. So getting back to white guilt 3.2
just leads to the next phenomenon that is a feature of
white guilt. And that's dissociation. The only way to
get away from the stigma of being a racist is to find some
way to dissociate oneself from the stigma from the image that
you were, that you are a racist that you did you did you that
you are like, the whites of old that you still secretly are a
white supremacist, that you still secretly believe in this,
that your heart is that you may be smiling, but your heart is
still committed to racism. And so, again, whites walking around
under this sort of cloud of suspicion, then have to find
ways to, to dissociate themselves from that. I think
the great the first great example of dissociation in
American life, was President Johnson's Great Society. Why all
of a sudden, in 1965? Do you do you just say, well, we're going
to spend billions and billions of dollars, we're going to
create all kinds of social programs, and we're going to,
we're going to dump all this money, and we're going to end
poverty in our time. You create all these all these programs,
almost all of which, which failed. Certainly, they did not
eradicate poverty, they did not bring about racial equality.
They did virtually nothing. But they did dissociate the American
society and the American government, from the stigma of
racism.
Yes, the Great Society.
This world money at the problem Medicare
and Medicaid, there was lots of stuff that came out of that.
Yes, affirmative action was one of them. But it was not a lot of
thought put into it, it was just throw money at the problem with
that, make it go away with my mom Association.
That is the American way. I mean, I have to say, our culture
as Americans is we do throw money at the problem thinking
that'll fix it.
But do you really want to fix the problem? And I'm going to
bring up example to you homelessness, this is something
near and dear to your heart? Yes. Do people really want to
make fix the homeless problem? Or do they make one and not see
the homeless?
My experience is, because well, and this is I think this is
probably what triggered this debate a while ago. Because of a
it's another version of guilt. We will call it systemic issues,
whether it's racism or, or institutional inequality, or
whatever words you want to put towards it. And I'm just talking
about my own experience here in Austin, Texas, a blue.in, the
red state, very liberal. And that may or may not have been to
do with I think it does. And it's, I'm so guilty about what
the system has done. These people don't have what I have. I
want to fix it. They don't have a house, my house. That's the
thinking. So it's not about not even interested, really not even
interested in how these people became homeless, or what the
real issues are. And, yeah, not in my backyard. I mean, I was
talking to Alan Graham, the founder of community, first
village here in Austin. And he said, if I if I had, if I had
$1, for every person that said to me, this is so great, what
you're doing, but could you do it over there? He said, I'd be a
rich man. And so yes, it's it's not actually it's a shortcut.
And I think that I have to be honest with you. I think that's
part of the American culture, which is changeable. And it's
not everybody, I'm generalizing, but hey, you know, well, if I
can just pay a little more in taxes, and it'll go away,
because my dear leader said it would, in this case, I'm talking
about the mayor or the governor, then that's, that's the level I
want to go to. And that's great. It's easy for me to talk with my
pocketbook. That's it's become a way to fix all even though as
you and I both know, it rarely does.
For two reasons, one, that people are interested in the
homeless and I'm not saying all but your general average person.
No one gave second thought to homeless people and today start
showing up on there. block. That's right. As long as long as
there were under the bridge, on the highway or wherever else out
of sight out of mind, you gave no thought to correct. So one
your action is out of the wrong motive is to make the problem go
away, not solve the problem. And then to you don't want you have
to take action. You don't want to understand the problem and
create a solution to the problem. What you want to do is
here this is what's convenient for me. Yeah, throw money at it.
Throw a hashtag at it. Let me like this. Let me retweet this
not feel good about it. Do something, you know. Yeah. If
you if you don't do that, don't say nothing at all. Yeah, I
mean, it's worse. I mean, because what you do is you make
a problem seem like it's being addressed when it's really not.
And just just to add to that, let's move away from homeless in
a moment. But right now in Austin has got so bad because
what what Austin did the city council's they said, Okay, you
can camp sit, lie anywhere you want, except City Hall. Of
course, that would be crazy. And that brought the problem right
to people's doorsteps. And then they freaked out. And now the
conversation is not about it's not even about homelessness
anymore. It's about how do we get them off the streets? How do
we get them off the streets? It's sick,
it's sick. And that's what we did with the Great Society with
LBJ majors threw money at the problem. But let's listen to the
triumphs and tragedies of it
$20 trillion. What would you do with all that money? You could
pay off the national debt? You could spend a million dollars a
day for 2000 years and still have trillions left. But could
you in poverty in America, that was one of the goals of the
Great Society, President Lyndon Johnson's ambitious plan to
transform the lives of Americans. The Great Society is
50 years old. It's been a long historic journey. But are we at
the end of the road. We'll start by traveling back to 1964 when
America's prosperity and potential seemed limitless, but
America had troubling age old problems, like legal
discrimination, and abject poverty that could no longer be
tolerated in the increasingly prosperous land of the free. So
in May of 1964, President Johnson made a big announcement.
The Great Society rests on abundance and liberty for all.
It demands an end to poverty, and racial injustice. To which
we're totally committed in our time, LBJ decided
that the government with its vast power and the might of the
National Treasury would steer us towards a better place.
The challenge of the next half century is whether we have the
wisdom to use that wealth, to enrich and elevate our national
life and to advance the quality of our American civilization.
Johnson's plan into the south Jim Crow laws, no more whites,
only lunch counters, colored water fountains, and sitting at
the back of the bus. landmark legislation like the Civil
Rights Act of 1964, and the 1965 Voting Rights Act were
tremendous achievements that did away with legalized racial
discrimination. Today, we stand closer to being the colorblind
society that Johnson envisions but we're still trying to level
the playing field with affirmative action policies that
themselves aren't colorblind.
Big Voice to talk about colorblind is we're a colorblind
society, which you can say that's racist to say these
things.
But why would we want to be a colorblind society? That's
a very, it's not a great question. It's a very good
question. I don't want to be colorblind.
I agree. Well, let me ask you this question. If you're
colorblind, what do you see in gray, or black and white raised?
Brands? Makes the wood
black and white? That's right. Yeah, exactly.
That's how they're gonna bring about the colorblind society. We
spoke about this before. It's like, hey, this makes them all
up, get rid of get rid of cultures. Get rid you know,
that's that's the solution. But it's, like I say, I find it
troubling that people just want they don't want to address the
problem. If you don't want to address it, don't address it.
But there's hope. There's always hope.
Oh, I'm sitting up straight. All right. I'm ready for
my orders. For all the people out there that are riddled with
white guilt. There's kits where you Really?
Yes
there are subscription boxes for everything these days between
men's wear makeup, dog toys, and now to women are hoping a box
delivered once a month can alleviate white guilt. But as
Evan McMorris Santoro discovered, it won't come cheap
Barry element is a rabbi and professor of Jewish Studies who
lives in Park Slope Brooklyn. Bears holiday gift hall this
year include something for herself, the safety pin box, a
new monthly subscription service designed to wake up white people
to the realities of being black in America. plans start at $25
and go all the way up to 100 a month.
Okay. Wait a minute. What what is safety pin? What is what is
going on? Where's this from? What's
it? What is this? This is vice. Oh, of course
vice the virtue signaling SJW advertising agency
and it is real white guilt kids.
All right. I'm listening.
White guilt kids to
are you getting that feeling of like unboxing that exciting
feeling of like a gift.
It's not so much as a gift. But it's kind of exciting that it's,
I feel like I'm getting ready to learn like I don't know Mission
Impossible, but my job is supposed to be
the safety pin is the Make America Great Again hat for
white people who want to show the world they didn't vote for
Trump. After an election that progression is believed hinged
on racism. The safety pin is meant to display that the wearer
is a safe white person. The trend quickly became
commercialized. Now you can find designer safety pins online for
over $300 organizers, Marissa Johnson and Leslie Mack they can
use all this white guilt for good and capitalize on it at the
same time. Wow.
This is Ultimate virtue signaling with a safety pin.
Nice.
It's not just a safety pin. It's a whole kit monthly kit.
Monthly month. So you can get monthly. Oh, it's my monthly
reminder.
Yeah.
This is this serious? Is this really
this is as a heart attack.
This is not like National Lampoon or the onion,
HBO vice brother. Okay, it's three. It's an
agreed to safety pin box. The plan is to make some profit,
while also giving grants to black women activists. I went to
Grand Rapids to watch the first set of boxes get packed in
Leslie's house.
That's a good idea. That is actually a really good idea.
This is sort of the epicenter of white guilt is the white middle
aged mom who voted for Hillary but saw Trump win on the back of
the white women vote Yeah, that's where the money that's
that's
where that's where the need is. I wouldn't say the money but it
is whether
you're a business first. Yeah, that's where the cash is. Right?
That's where the money is. Well, the cash
is in all the white people's wallets. So I'm not
discriminate. I'm not discriminating about about whose
wallet. Exactly yeah, but I will say that that's that's where the
need exists. That's where the desire is.
I told you it's the American way. Fix it with money. It's
this is disgusting. Now, when you watch this, after you crack
up laughing, how do you really feel about it?
I feel sad for the people buying the box. And I feel mad at the
people creating the bots because what it does is trivialize. But
this is the social justice warrior way. The people that we
see and we saw this on the show many a time they're able to
monetize their movement for personal gain. So yeah, but I'll
feel sorry. Obviously, this woman's dealing with their boss,
this boss is dealing with something to seek out
to seek out a way to not identify. Let's just say what is
Trump derangement syndrome?
Yeah, yes, it's, it's okay. So people have been trained, I'll
put it that way that Trump won the election. Well, there's many
reasons he won. We know the Russians. We know that, you
know, there's many different things that are of course true.
But above all, it was racism. So now the only way to combat Trump
is to combat racism somehow and people are going along with it.
I mean, it's very effective. The triggers that they're putting
into this into the marketing of this idea. And look at the
target. They're going after women who voted for Hillary but
saw other white women who voted for Hillary but saw other white
women voting for Trump.
And I think in the clip before they said, Oh, older white
women.
Yeah middle aged or older, yes,
middle a middle age. So that put you know, but they a lot of
these people grew up like me at the beginnings of the silver
rights like me absolutely all the work all the work we put
into these, it's now back again in a box. All the work that's
been put in Mo is now fixable in a box of safety pins. Yes, kits
for
sure what's in the box. Oh, verifies lesson plans and tasks
to complete. Some tasks are simple, like give Black people
higher tips. Others are harder. This method
safety pin box, we are focused on learning about and practicing
radical compassion. It's nice as a part of combating whites in
prisons, white supremacy, you do three things every week one is
directed towards this. In this case, black elderly one is
directed towards the over incarcerated and this one's
media this week, I take a look at the media I consume on a
regular basis and evaluate it for bias and worthiness
to it wouldn't be them sitting here in your house in Park
Slope. And I'm wondering if these boxes are going to end up
like you know how New Yorkers get stuck at people's houses?
Like, I'm sure there's some New Yorkers in this house somewhere?
Yes, there
are we read them however we read them. No, that's a very good
point. And if I have to admit that at that, also, I thought
about that.
So there's an aspect of this box. It's kind of like, this is
inviting. This is the black woman you invite into your house
every month. Yeah, certain aspects of this way I really
thought
of it is that it embarrasses me honestly that I just don't have
a world where I am. Have I encounter naturally. People of
color.
A bit. I'll bet you she just doesn't see him. It's worse. But
who
are you? virtue signaling to? If you don't encounter black people
to have to wear a safety pin? Yeah, just white people. Now you
see, and that goes back to the cupcake thing. The German donut.
Well, we didn't we didn't explain that yet.
No. Okay, I sent out a tweet. It had a chocolate doughnut. It was
a German Sign. And a woman put in star star star star donut.
And it's in Germany. Right? I sent it to Adam says, What does
this mean? Because I did this. And I was I was almost got Yes,
because I've seen a fib star.
Right. And it actually said it was actually a train conductor.
I think they called it a train conductor or something. But what
I was able to explain is historically, in Germany, they
have a couple of treats that the one that I'm most familiar with,
is called a naked zoom, which is a negro kiss. And it's like a
big black thing filled with a creamy middle. Now of course,
you can debate whether that's racist or not, but in German, en
E G, E R ne her is not derogatory, where Srivatsa and
you've heard this probably from Yiddish or Jewish that's very
derogatory. So if a German says SHVARTS, that's racist if you
say nature, it's it's not appropriate probably anymore for
for this entry, but it's been around for a long, long time.
And if you looked at the she just had the N word, but in with
with four stars are not
the reason why that is. If I read it with five stars, that's
right. So just to show you I'm not even above this, why don't
do social media for one and I only do it for the benefit of
promoting the show. But to what else is subjecting my are
subjecting myself to social media for you guys? Yes. But I
was
almost triggered. It's easy. It's easy. It's easy. And we
so just to set the picture up, you have this little chocolate
man, cupcake face, with little pink lips, not overly large lips
for the people thinking black face, but she made allusions to
black face. Yeah, it just looks like a little chocolate cupcake
with two eyes and brown hair and chocolate. I mean, it was brown
hair were sprinkles. But what triggered me was I read five
stars, not in five stars, not four stars. And then I was like,
is that what the the sign says on the cupcake because I had a
little title to the cupcake where they end up being tranq.
And what that does just go to show you can be triggered it's
easy for sure. But But who does the virtue signaling Who does
this retweeting of this? Most of the time is is not, it's not
black people to go around and do a white guilt, or white average
everyday black people, white people. All right, so there's
one more clip catspaw.
So what is it about white people that, that they also require you
to give them a box of things to do? Why? Why are you the check?
Yeah, I
mean, you could just write the check, I think for us when it's
about actually providing a service that people are asking
for. So there's a market. And that's really when we talk about
it being a business. It's a business model, because there's,
there's a need. And I say all the time, like, had white people
got their shit together and actually provided this for
themselves. We wouldn't have a business model right now. But
they haven't. So here we are providing the service for them.
The most radical politics or sometimes the simplest ones,
it's 18 boxes message to guilty whites. If you want to do
something, put money in a black woman's pocket.
And I just would say, you know, we never pretended to be
anything but radical black women. And so we're going to do
some radical shit. We'll see what happens.
Assaulting
man, you or me? Both. So yeah, ain't got to go back to the
conversation you had about on your best behavior. Don't ask
for anything. So this goes totally against what ordinary
everyday black people were taught. Growing up. You don't
never seem like you need something.
Right. So if someone then looks at you and says, Well, you're
black seems like you need something. Hey, let me put some
money in your pocket black lady. That must be just incredibly
insulting.
I will be highly insulted. But the fact that she building a
business model off of this is just,
oh, I got a memo to self cancel HB Oh, okay. All right.
Crazy. I'm feeling triggered right now, please. Okay, what
more do you want? Sorry. Why? Why would you do that? You know,
how bad that is? For the people. And I want to make this clear.
There's people out here that's doing legit work on the ground.
Trying to bring about and correct the problems of have
they? Yeah, the problems of they? What, when people see
this, he is totally destabilizes and deflates what they're trying
to do. The actual legit people
out there. Yeah, of course. And these people are not fighting
the real issue. They're not fighting the real white
supremacy, the real ruling class, the One World Government,
they're, they're fighting each other over stupidity. They're
mimicking it. Even better. Yes, you're right.
So where would they learn something like this from? Well,
like you're dangerous.
But the Civil Rights establishment, which has
rigidify gotten worse. Jesse Jackson used to be when back in
the the early 70s. I used to go to his operation push in
Chicago. And he was talking about turning the TV off at home
and, and keeping the family together and assisting on
homework at all and reading and had had a book rental program
and all that he was great. He says none of that now. And he
gets so much money and attention from manipulating white guilt.
And he's so good at it. I mean, he's is it's just he's a
virtuoso of it. He has gotten billions of dollars from
American corporations, who he threatens to stigmatize if they
don't pay up. And when you rewarding somebody with billions
of dollars, it's hard to break that habit. So, you know, he's a
good example of where white guilt really is a dangerous
thing.
Yeah, yes. And this is a business model carried on by
Reverend Al Sharpton and who was the new guy behind on the we
were talking about in the show called leprosy. Right,
McKesson? Yeah. And I'm Shaun King.
Yes. Well, DeRay. Now there was someone else.
It was Shaun King there we're fighting over. Right, right.
Turf beef, right.
This is now Dvorak, and I've called this out on no agenda
many times going back, you know, a decade that this is what this
guy is doing. But never really we always looked at it from the
despicable enrichment that he's doing for himself, and probably
just stayed away from the race argument. But of course, it's
the Here's exactly what what it is it's abusing racial history
for his own good and and honestly, man, I see a lot of
black people fawning over, over both these reverence. And that
to me is disgusting.
Kiwa reverend? Yeah, yes, yes, yes. Reverend Michael Eric
Dyson, he's another one. When you get into that.
Who? Who was it? Because I know that we we've either talked
about it or you sent me something I read about it
someone it was somewhere as long as that we should get the get
the reverence ah. Ah, was that Margaret Sanger? Aha. That's
right, the founder of Planned Parenthood and the American
eugenics society. Not in that order. Yes. That the one and
only she's saying another white person of the definitely the
white supremacy I'm sure that she was a part of that.
Yes. And Planned Parenthood itself is part of that system. I
mean, she's to be I mean, so. And that's what the weird what
they call a weird Flex is you got liberals on the same side of
these organizations that are historically bad for the people
that you claim to represent. So it's like, it sends your mind
into these crazy like,
a brain freeze, a brain freeze. You can't short you can't brush
short, short circuit. Exactly.
And when you talk to people, it's like, don't you see this?
And we have, I might have links and YouTube videos and copies of
quotes and it's like, I don't get it. And then they tell you I
had I have to vote I can't not vote. Right? I can't. Anyhow,
our I can't you don't have option. Because one is a solid
one as black people you can't not vote. And then two, you
can't vote Republican so you don't have a choice. So then you
just live with this. And then you have people speaking on your
behalf gaining the benefits and resources as we've seen with the
people in this white kid kit guilt, a white guilt kids and
then learn from the behavior from the Jesse Jackson's of the
world. And then the money never reaches us. And we're like,
what the hell and the just stopping for a second. And I'll
Sharpton is more in the picture now with this business model
than Jesse Jackson. The fawning and the authority assigned to
this this nincompoop this this seriously illiterate man he
cannot speak a single word properly. is unbelievable. I see
it. I've always had what why? Why up and of course, I was in
New York with the Toronto Brawley case. You know, when Al
Sharpton was five times the Al Sharpton he is now in size. It
was the whole thing. His whole career has been baffling to me.
And the media part of the we'll call it the the white supremacy
establishment. Because it is in lockstep. It's disturbing. It's
always been disturbing to me.
But it's not baffling to me because of one word, activation.
If you can activate the vote, that's all that matters, to
activate the streets, and that's what he meant. He was actually
more successful than Jesse Jackson because Jesse Jackson
actually did come up somewhat through the Civil Rights
Movement, where Al Sharpton he was more of like a kind of
Street guy. Yeah, it's
a hood law.
Right?
He was FBI informant. He's all kinds of crazy this guy's no
good He's a gangster.
Right but he can activate the streets. And MSNBC saw that he
had a skill set that they could they could exploit and he and he
used it. But getting back to the white guilt ridden people. I
know the men and the women are feeling left out. I mean, men
are feeling left out. Because we have white guilt kits for women.
And for men we are we have something for you.
It's very rare to be a black femme whipping a white man My
name is mistress velvet. I've been a dominatrix for four years
and a goddess my whole life the core of my domination style is
that I forced slaves to read Black from this theory. My very
first Slave I had ended up being like you are such a nice kind
and smart person but you will Ever Vietnam, and that like,
really upset me
and I was like, No, I don't want any white man telling me that
there's something I can't do. And so that kind of pushed me to
like do a lot of research around BDSM and kind of cultivate
myself as a DOM and what that meant for me.
Is this also from HBO, Where's this coming from?
Buzzfeed.
So let me get this straight. So it's black women who dominate
BDSM with I guess, bondage and, and whips, etc, and, and
domination, white men because they need that and that they it
makes them feel good.
Not only that, but she makes them read black feminist books.
He was that part.
Ah, now I know what they say by making America great again. Pay
to
how it all started in terms of me kind of like now building a
curriculum of black feminist theory for slaves was one slave
came into our sessions with a lot of emotional baggage and
lots of white guilt. And so I just turned to the people I
trust, I turned to Patricia Hill, Collins and Audrey Lorde.
And was like, these are some texts and readings that have
been really powerful for me and shaped my thinking around
things. Why don't you try reading Audrey Lorde. And see
like, how it makes you feel. And while you're at it write me like
1000 words, I couldn't even look at an essay. If you could pull
it up on your phone. Could you bring me my phone, I will
probably read this last paragraph of this essay that I
got yesterday. I am very aware of the real capacity and
potential of black women. Not only physical, but intellectual
and emotional. It is my obligation to pass this
knowledge to as many people as possible, making the word of
mistress velvet a fact and rule among Latin males to the
knowledge passing spreading the knowledge of mistress velvet
across the world. Kind of funny.
Nice touch to bring in the Latinos. Nice touch.
Very nice touch. So man, do you realize what you're hearing
Adam?
I'm hearing some crazy shit is what I'm hearing right here.
This is what this is guilt gone bad man. This
is very low. Go away. This is keeping it real goes wrong.
Exactly. Holy crap. What we're hearing is a white man is paying
a white a black woman. So as a form of power structure in
itself. Yeah. To pretend that she has power over him to grid
him of his guilt. Which is the catch all,
which he's paying for which really makes the circle
completely round and changes nothing.
Which actually says he's in power. Yes. Oh, man. That's just
I know, I know, a sec sales. But just for that purpose of that. I
had to add the clip in the show. Because he's like, What? How
Don't you realize he's paying you? Yeah, to play alone in the
capacity that he wants you to play along
to make to make him feel good for 30 minutes or an hour or
whatever he's paying for. And then go on.
Homework last Yeah.
We laugh but it's so sad.
Sad if he had lab to keep them crying. Yeah. Oh, they pay
three.
Yes, please. I need more of this. What mistress
helped me see with the black feminist theory and readings was
how much deeper? Everything goes and how much deeper and how much
more I owe. Being a white man and benefiting from this system
of privilege and oppression. I definitely fetishized mistress.
At first. I've done a lot of work to really try to unpack
that and unlearn. The fetishization
for those that have like a weird fetish of like blackness and
black women. They're gonna really eat that up. And so I
kind of have this like, weird dual relationship with my
fetishization where I use it to get clients. But then I want to
process through it with them as well. I remember one time I went
to a play party, and I opened the door and this white person
says, Hey, you want to be my slave? I'm just like,
immediately blown away about like, the depth of that word and
their inability to like recognize, like how, like the
weight of saying that to a black person, when in the past has
been used white by white people to talk about black people, and
enslaved Africans, and now I'm being able to really like
appropriate that word and call my white men, slaves. And that
feels really powerful in that way. My slaves pay my rent, they
helped me pay my student loans back, you know, they're like
funding my life. I don't want to undermine the fact that black
people in the US and in Africa are owed a significant amount of
reparations, but I find myself trying to get some of that with
my clients.
Okay, reparations, it was waiting for it. And there it is.
She invokes it and it's discussed, like I said,
completely disgusting. Oh, I'm just going to leave that there.
I'm gonna need a shower. Yeah, that's crazy. This is your way
gay rapper. Right? Yeah. Oh, I want the I wanted to say, This
is why we need reparations. And the reason why I say this is why
I'm a big supporter of reparations, because it wipes
the slate clean. After this point, no more guilt. No more,
you know, it's like a atonement. It's a it's a cleanser. That
way, from our side, we can say, you know, we've been an eight
hour speaker for eight hours, we've been compensated anybody
else, that they have to deal with America in their in their
capacity, or however they want to deal with it. And, and white
people won't have to feel any more guilt for the past sins of
the foreigner ears.
So about first for people who are new to the show a DOS
American descendant of slavery. So there's a differentiator in,
yes. And that's important in this. But of course, that
doesn't solve the actual problem. And because as we have
unfolded here, white supremacy is a one world global government
that continues to rule and will continue to use race to divide
and conquer, although it may provide for a temporary
cleansing such as the black mistress, whipping the white
slave. It won't actually fix anything other than I think it'd
be to me, it sounds like it may be a 50 year fix or, or a five
month fix? I don't know. But it doesn't actually solve the
problem of white supremacy.
No, no, no, you can't eat No, I will solve that problem. I'm
talking about the animosity, or the that negative guilt, but
that's really interesting. Okay, so it that's why I think that's
where Marianne Williamson was coming from. It's not
only she say it that way, you just said it is a sentence, it
was really simple.
Right? It's atonement is what it is. So, this is like, are you
$1,000 Once I pay you, the guilt is gone. But then it's like,
I mean, I'm, I hear where you're coming from. But we just went
through this whole thing where that's the dumb American ways,
oh, let me just pay some money and it'll be rid of it. What
you're not? Well,
there's not much as that's the thing about it. It has to be
capital. But it has to be done in a thoughtful way. And the
reason why I know we're probably gonna go long, but this is a
very neat conversation. Look at a foreigner action. So and one
of the clips I didn't use Shelby Steele, he was saying Ivy League
school the 8% of the each class open for minorities, black
minorities, right? If you're you have poor schools in your
community, you're not going to be able to fill up that 8% with
adequate candidates right? So then you have to lower their
standards which makes it even makes the problem worse because
then you feel like a token quote unquote token and you feel a
guilt it's another kind of guilt black people feel like I'm only
here because I was right because yeah, right. So what I'm saying
is you take that money you fix the schools at the elementary
level, you actually put that capital of work where you have
enough candidates that you feel that 8% slot spot with actual
adequate candidates that's the problem No, but see when you
throw money at the problem with the great society people are
saying one thing would it didn't fix nothing? It didn't fix
anything it I'm double negative I just didn't fix anything um
it well worse worse. Affirmative Action was hijacked.
That's a whole nother whole nother show but
it's true affirmative action was high. Very true.
Yeah. By everything that that we held the door open while
everybody else went in. Yeah, is
Yeah. So okay. I don't want to dwell on too long on this. But I
think we've talked about reparations before. In fact,
that's part of how we met is me trying to understand what was
going on in Congress with a das and reparations. And, you know,
which hasn't really moved much further since we started talking
about it. And I know, so you're for reparations, and it has to
be capital, but you can't trust any government to put the
capital to good work. In fact, that's the weak part of Marianne
Williamson's argument, Hey, she's like, all we'll put a
panel together and the panel will decide where it goes. And
you know, that's when my eyes roll back in my head like, okay,
that's, that's a bonanza that won't do any good. And so I
think that's, I think that's why you're saying, Oh, it should
just be a check, a big check, every a DOS person gets a check,
and then then we're done. Even Steven, clean slate.
Well, I'm not saying only a check, oh, there will have to be
some money involved of scholarships, to private schools
on the elementary level, where, you know, you have to build in,
like I said, you have to build that ground floor. It's gonna
have to be a generation where you build that ground floor. You
just can't say, oh, yeah, we're gonna open up I believe, 8% of
the spots and not build a community from the bottom up.
This is the whole Boulay town, the 10 things like oh, yeah,
well, that 10% In two, I believe schools, and then they'll do
right by the by the bottom bottom. Cool. That doesn't work.
Who
in your mind, in the political landscape has the right idea? In
your mind for reparations? Who is representing your thinking? I
haven't heard any button. That's what I was afraid of. No.
No, it's not a soundbite. It's not me, it's gonna take actual
work. Because either you have two schools of thought, we need
government programs and no check, or just cut the check
only. And neither one and a half a hybrid system of both of those
things to solve the problem, but I mean, we'll talk about that on
another day. Because, like I said, it's just, it's so big of
a problem that
well, let's just go back to how we started on this, which is the
idea that if we just do something, let's just call it
this if we do something big enough. What I'm hearing you
black American mo saying to white American Adam is if we
just make it big enough and significant or significant
enough, maybe that's the right word. Then Black people would
say white people, you're off the hook.
Is not black people are saying you're on the hook is these
Grifters. What we're trying to do is eliminate the Grifters.
Well see they're speaking on our behalf right, the Jesse
Jackson's the so what
black deals stand? So you're the only guy I don't know. You're
one of the few I know but you're the only guy I know is saying
Jesse Jackson is a grifter. Al Sharpton is a grifter. There's
not a lot of people standing up saying that Mo. I say
actually, Jesse Jackson was ran out of Ferguson. You know, the
news is don't tell you this.
Thank you. Thank you. So, okay. So I feel very good now. Because
I feel like I am contributing with a podcast. And we're not
immune. We're contributing something by opening the
dialogue and just being able to talk about it like Americans,
which is to me quite easy. But the warning is these people
these eight holes over here, those are the ones you got to
look out for you got to be careful of. And yeah, cuz
they're you they're playing off each other. They're playing.
You're speaking on my behalf to use an atom, right kick kicking
and chipping, chipping. Right and then it never comes back to
me and then we're like, what the hell gotcha, you know, um, so if
you say, we get together have a conversation like I look, we're
going to do ABC. It takes the power away from those the middle
the middle traders.
And there's a lot of them. There's a lot of the MO there's
a lot trading on this a lot in entertainment, a lot of very
influential people. And they and they're all part of the problem.
And that's why I call them disgusting. I mean, that's the
word for the day. They're disguised disgusting, because so
I want to end on a high note. I know we got you know,
we're not done yet. Are we? I'm having a good time.
Okay, now, let's okay. Even the kids aren't safe.
Especially the kids aren't safe. What are you talking right there
the future?
The Greater
we end tonight with a poem written and performed by an
Atlanta teenager this past spring, but it's been getting
new attention from millions after the violence that shook
America last week. Here's Mark Strassman.
My poem is titled white boy and privilege.
White Boy privilege was an entry in a school poetry contest.
To be honest, I'm scared of what it would be like if I wasn't on
the top rung if the tables were turned, and I didn't have my
whiteboard privilege safety blanket to protect me.
Royce man's message was a plea from a 14 year old white male
going into a private school in Atlanta. Let everyone share his
privileges.
I love it. Because when I see a police officer, I see someone
who's on my
side. I'm just trying to be truthful, about like, how I
wouldn't trade places with somebody and that I think a lot
of people sometimes are such a thought about that
racial division seared America last week, after Minnesota,
Baton Rouge and Dallas man's poem struck a nerve online. Many
loved it. Others attacked him. More than 8 million people have
seen it.
Everyone should have the privileges. They should be
writing. Everyone's story should be reading. So all they have to
do is get it read. Again, the change can be scary, but
equality shouldn't be.
I'm not asking anybody to give up their lives to fight for
equality. I have other dreams too. I'm just asking you to try
be an ally do your share. When you see something that you think
is wrong. There's discrimination speak up,
it's time to let go of that fear. It's time to take that
ladder and turn it into a bridge.
Also won that poetry contest. Mark Strassman, CBS News,
Atlanta.
Child abuse, child abuse out you took it took the words right out
of my mouth. This kid I'm not going to harp on this kid
because it would only be further to child abuse. But come on.
Yeah.
Doesn't. Doesn't that make you feel like despair? If that's
what's going on? That's the future. That's that's what's
being created? It does to me. Yeah.
I don't know how you know what? Well, he understand how the
world really works. And you could tell he does it and what
we're doing is condoning highlighting children. And not
only him, I'm just gonna make this a bigger issue of they
don't understand how the world works. And they will say if you
want everybody to have privilege, then it's not
privilege right? Now what we should want is, Oh, stop,
Oh, stop, shoot. Okay, it just hit me. If we want everyone to
have privilege, there's no privilege. You know what that's
called Mo, socialist, socialism. It's what we're moving towards
and that and so this white guilt is a huge driver of the young
people being without knowing exactly what it is. I've lived
in socialist countries. There's, there's good there's a lot of
not so good or stuff I don't like. But for sure. Everyone
becomes equal. And then everyone is it really pulls everybody
down. Doesn't elevate
nothing. Yeah.
Nothing. Yes, right.
You're happy. You're happy. You're 200 200 square foot
apartment with your two pair of Lululemon underwear, Lulu, lemon
socks, and your bunk beds and your bunk bed? Your bunk bed?
That's what they're preparing for it. But it's like, you have
to trick them in their mind. But as we all know what any
communist or socialist regime there's always a ruling class.
Yeah. Which goes back to the original statement of the elite
or empire. It's just a different kind of empire. Yes. There you
have it. Wow. I, oh,
I loved this is not quite what I expected. I didn't know exactly
what to expect from this show. I really liked where we took this.
And I really like that from the outset. And this is the basis of
the show. We both agree. There's a ruling class there's
personified by certain people, and they are the supremacy and
they're most likely all white. So we can say supremacy with
certainty. And it's the enemy of all mankind.
They are the enemy of justice. Remember that the opposition to
this is justice. Give me a fair shot. Call the game fair the
sports and analogy and let me compete. That's all we're asking
for. That's all we're asking for. Um, but so we're wrapping
up here, and I want to end the show on a joke if you don't
mind.
Just so although there's been some pretty funny shit going on
in the show. Don't know if anything could top the white
guilt kit
on actual joke. Okay. Number 30.
Oh, sorry. Not not saying why people aren't evil either,
because I know where you got the evil in me. I do. I guess I can
feel it. That's why I try to suppress it. I tried to dress
casual, you know, I mean, I'm serious, man. I tried a suit on
the other day, I felt that coming up like Fuck, man, I want
to take over some shit, right? I start telling people what to do.
I'm gonna go blue lake laying on my secretary
like those movies when they make black and white people get
along, and even those ones seem ridiculous, you know, because it
always has to be like some sort of lesson. And those movies just
like, you know, I never looked at it that way. This like, that
never happens. You know? Anytime I've ever hung out with a black
dude, at no point during the evening is he like tried to like
Teach me how to dance. In a racial Footloose moment, they
always. And I never go to his neighborhood and like trying to
like save a school, you know? How many times are they gonna
make that movie? You know, that movie? The white person goes
into the projects. They just have to make a difference. You
know, if they just made the move, you can what that was
Hillary Swank. It's like, did you even need to go see it? It's
like, Let me guess she shows up and they don't accept her.
Right. And she goes home, she cries to her feminine boyfriend
is wearing sweatpants. And he's cooking something for some
reason, right? And he convinces her and convinces her to give it
one more chance right? Since she goes back down there, she starts
drawing out their inner beauty next scene. Oh, they put a do
rag on and she starts fucking dancing. And it's embarrassing.
For all races involved for the love of God. Stop making that
fucking movie.
Birdman, he's fantastic. There's a number of really good
comedians who are doing some great stuff now. He's definitely
one. That's that's why we got to have honesty.
Yeah, it's the funniest part. Exactly. And there's none
of raise attention. Breathe attention to what's really going
on. So
yeah. Oh, wow. This is this has been really good. I've
thoroughly enjoyed doing this with you. And I think that this
is just the beginning of the show, really, of the stuff that
we can get into. And I hope that everyone who has been listening
understands that we have a common and a common enemy in
this. And they're not always that visible. But definitely we
have a common enemy and they have very powerful tools. Tools
such as television tools, such as well the this is the beauty
of the internet is it is being used for great evil currently,
but there's a lot of great good and if anyone just invest a
little bit of time and little bit of effort, little bit of
energy, you too can do what we're doing. It's not all that
hard. You just have to want to do it and just be fucking honest
for change.
I gotta go order my white guilt kid here. Thank you so much for
putting this together. Mo I really enjoy it as you know.
Are you welcome. And as I always say, pay attention to
everything. And the truth will reveal itself.
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Alright, see you next week.
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