Adam Curry: Mofax with Adam curry for September 11, 2024
this is episode 100
Unknown: jumbo beats hallelujah. That's
Adam Curry: right, this is it. The pinnacle. We have reached
the mountaintop. Welcome to 100 the final episode. I'm Adam
curry coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country.
It is time for the last time to spin The Wheel of topics from
here to Northern Virginia. Please say hello to my friend on
the other end, the one and only. Mr. Mo, facts,
Moe Factz: how you doing? Adam,
Adam Curry: I'm much better now that I'm hearing you. Mo,
although life is pretty good in general, it's good to hear your
brother. It's good, good to have us back on the on the on the
sticks, again, on the talking sticks, man,
Moe Factz: it's always a good time that when we can get
together and, uh, bring it to the table, yeah, under the rug,
and get it on top of the table.
Adam Curry: So it's a little bittersweet, because this is the
final episode in the series of mofacs with Adam curry. Also, I
think, when we were talking just before we started, we had a
quick chat. You know, neither of us are really good with dates.
And you said, two weeks ago, you said, Yeah, how about how is
your calendar for next week or in two weeks. And I said, it's
good because I'm going away when vacation, even though I was
working. But, you know, it's still trying to be vacation. And
we planned for this day, and only this morning did I realize,
oh, it's September 11, which seems to have been forgotten
this year by most. Right? It's like, never forget what 23 years
later like, oh yeah, oh yeah. It says September 11. How old were
you when 911 happened? Actually,
Moe Factz: I was 20. Okay, all right,
Adam Curry: so and so, then you were old enough to actually
remember. But so many, I
Moe Factz: remember it vividly, vividly, yeah, so, so
Adam Curry: many don't remember it anymore. Anyway, that
Moe Factz: was pre cell phone. But also, I like to say, Happy
belated birthday.
Adam Curry: Oh, thank you very much.
Moe Factz: I'm terrible at that. Don't hold it to my head, not my
heart. It's people say
Adam Curry: it's okay. It's more than okay. You know, Tina threw
a surprise party for me, and I was there. I know exactly,
exactly. She's like, you know, I don't think should have. She
said I was thinking about who to invite, but I didn't think that
would be the right place for you and Mo to meet face to face for
the first time. I'm like, I
Moe Factz: was in the back corner.
Adam Curry: I knew it, I knew you were there. I knew it, I
knew it, I knew it, I knew it, it's all good. Brother and I am
so excited to get started with the episode 100 now, I have no
idea what you've put together, because throughout the past four
years, four years. Now it's five, five years. That's right,
five years. I know I forgot it's actually four and a half years,
because we know it's no, it is five. You're right. It is, yeah,
because we started talking to date, that's right. We started
talking on the way back from my honeymoon, which was over five
years ago, and and just for a Genesis check for everybody, we
were talking, and do we do just on DM? I think was Twitter DM,
for whatever reason, that was the mode of choice.
Moe Factz: What happened was, I could tell a story. You said dos
on the show. Oh, right, right, right, dos, that's right. And I
sent you a Twitter DM. It says a DOS because the A is important,
because and that from there, it just went into the now, a DM
back and forth, and here we are, five years later.
Adam Curry: Well, because you're essentially no agenda producer.
And whenever I hear something from by all know that the no
agenda producers are smarter than we are. And I was like,
Okay, this guy's No, this guy knows what he's talking about.
Was very interesting to me. And then we just kind of talk on the
phone, I think, for you know, once a week or something, you
say, Hey, let me catch you up on this. And then at a certain
point, I think I said, Dude, what are we doing here? We
should be recording this. And then I had your arm. Were you
doing the live the lives at that point? We doing? Yeah, I was
doing the live YouTube lives, yeah. Well, all of that is
culminated in this final episode. So for the last time,
I'm gonna spin up the wheel of topics round and round it goes
where it stops. Nobody knows, except for the man on the other
end, my friend mofax, because he put it all together for us. The
topic of episode 100 is the N word, ow, the word never spoken
in 100 episodes, the N word yes, all right.
Moe Factz: It's the rabbit hole of all rabbit holes. But before
we dive in. And I think it's the it's a well deserved trigger
warning. Trigger
Unknown: warning.
Adam Curry: All right, everybody set. We are good to go with
trigger warnings in place. We are set. We're strapped in.
Okay,
Moe Factz: so I got it this show segment in blocks. So the first
block is going to be what the word possibly could mean and and
how you should react to either saying or hearing the Word. So
for as we always do, we got to go to nearly fuller Yes, and
he's going to explain if there is a definition for the word, if
it's a
Unknown: white supremacist, when they look at a non white person,
they always come over what they call nicknames for them that
they consider to be offensive, considered to be a put down. The
white supremacists, they invent terms that they think that will
make you, quote, unquote, angry, or make you feel bad, or make
you go into a dejective mood. So but the way the code handles the
word, the N word, I just simply say, you give it a definition,
because that's where his power comes from. It doesn't have a
definition. Every definition that I've ever seen for that has
been it's a derogatory term for a person of African descent,
Negro or colored people of color, etc, etc, etc. And so
when a white person uses the word. They have found from
experience that they get a reaction from the non white
person that resents it, and so that's fun to them, that means
something to them, and so that they reserve that word because
they get that kind of reaction, because they want that kind of
reaction. That's
Adam Curry: kind of interesting, because when Neely Fuller, JR
started off there, the first thing I thought was, oh, that's
what 45 savage does all the time. Little Marco, low energy
Jeb, he's a white supremacist.
Moe Factz: But the thing is, like, and here's the thing about
this was special about this word is, I went back and looked
because I thought it had a definition. Because growing up,
you were told it means you're lazy, shiftless, ignorant, from
from your parents, you know, saying like, that's so you never
want to be, you know. So that's what this word. It was an ugly
word, you know. This is what it means. At the same time, it was
used, as we all know, as kind of either a term of endearment or a
jab or you're saying someone like in a jovial manner,
interracial in the
Adam Curry: 70s, although I too was taught never, ever, ever to
use that word in normal day parlance. It was totally
interracial, you know, as long as it was followed by please.
Now that's the 70s. I think that changed a little bit. But then,
you know, it became the N word, and the word never spoken by
certainly not by white people.
Moe Factz: So that we want to get to that, but let's just get
to not having a definition. So if it doesn't have a definition,
but it's used to elicit a certain reaction out of people,
I've come to the understanding that this is a one word spell.
Oh,
Adam Curry: yes, very good. Yes. It is clear. And anything that
elicits an emotional and often physical reaction, I think, is
on that is the definition of a spell. Is it not? Abracadabra
Moe Factz: has no meaning you're saying but it's uttered to
elicit a reaction, a magical reaction, right? It's, this is
the same, this is the same exact way. And I looked at other
racial slurs and even other slurs all over root from they
all have a root, you know, like, I mean, because we know what the
F word means, you know. I mean, all, all. I mean, like wet back
that, you know, that comes from all of them, even you're saying
all of them, but this one particular word only they say is
derogatory. It's a derogatory. Why is it derogatory? And nobody
ever answered that question, which, when I heard this clip
many years ago, I started looking and like, what is this
word? I mean, we understand. You don't say it. I'm this is my
rule. I don't use the word in mixed company that that's my
that's my rule. You know, saying, like, honestly, even
doing the show is quasi breaking the rule. But. This is for to
bring understanding for
Adam Curry: science. Is for science, right?
Moe Factz: And humanities, science and humanities, but
exactly so, yeah, so it does not have a definition, which, I
mean, I'm trying to say, I look, I'll try to find old
dictionaries that might they might, because, you know, they
always change in definitions. But like I said, growing up, the
spoken definition was ignorant, shiftless, lazy, that kind of
thing. That was the meaning, but And on paper, it never has. And
if somebody does have an old dictionary with a definition,
please screenshot it. Send him to mofax@gmail.com because so
Adam Curry: if I can just read from the Merriam Webster
Dictionary, which is, although they've changed all kinds of
meanings over the years, such as vaccine, you're right, it says
used as an insulting and contemptuous term for a black
person, but it doesn't define what it is used as. When you say
it's insulting, insulting, you're right. There is no actual
definition of what it means, but it is, according to Merriam
Webster, almost certainly the most offensive and inflammatory
racial slur in English without a meaning, yes, whereas the F word
that definitely has a definition, you know the yeah,
there's
Moe Factz: a lot wicked PD list with all The other racial slurs
and their origins, but this one is just a derogatory word for a
black person. And here's the other thing, like, when they
want to use it for other groups, they'll throw something in front
of it, yes, yeah. You know saying and it, but it still
doesn't have a definition, yeah? So, I mean, I don't want to get
hung up on this first clip. I just want to because, like, I
said this, we're playing with a powder keg here. Seriously. I
mean, like, it shouldn't be, but the fact that it is, that, you
know, is more to it than just being a term for sure. So, all
right, let's go into get to the second part is clear. They want
Unknown: the black person to get upset. And knowing this, years
ago, I came up with a definition for it. Says derogatory is a
derogatory term, but they don't tell you why. See, that's the
key to its power. Yes, sir, the minute you give a definition to
a word, it begins to lose its power because it limits its
power to that definition. Oh, yeah. But if you don't give it a
definition, I can call you by any name. I can make up a name
right now and call it, call you by that name, and you don't know
what it is I'm calling you. I have power over you because now
you are reacting to something that you can't understand, and
because that's what it really is. But I say that a N You know,
when they use the N word, I have it in the code book. It's just a
term that the white supremacists use to say that I'm a victim of
white supremacy. That's basically what they're saying.
Because you can't be the N word without being a victim of white
supremacy. If you're not a victim of white supremacy, you
can't be that. So by definition, they're just saying you're a
prisoner of war. Oh,
Adam Curry: that's that's interesting. So it's really an
affirmation. When you respond to it, you are affirming that
you're this victim of war,
Moe Factz: no where they're saying you or whether you're not
you referring to it or not. What they're saying is in more recent
terms, and this is something I've thought about. It's the way
of saying you're not like us. Sure that that's that like, how
this whole Ken Lamar thing foreshadowing,
Adam Curry: they like us, yeah, okay, yeah. Say you're
Moe Factz: on the side of this line, and we're on the other
side of this line, and it's meant to one, put you in your
place, to to hopefully, well, not all the time, but in some
cases, in more recent history, we've seen on video or
everything else to elicit a response out of you. And here's,
here's the weird, here's the weird part. Yeah, I said that.
Oh, I'm not counting. Yeah, here's the strange part. Is that
if you react to the word violently, then you actually put
yourself in that predicament of actually becoming a slave by the
13th Amendment. How you like that? Interesting, because you
haul off, hit the person. Now a criminal in charge is. You
convicted of that crime, you become actual slave.
Adam Curry: Yeah, you do. I'm just gonna withhold because I'm
loving the I'm loving your layout here.
Moe Factz: Okay, so now what we have to do is because I know
some I can hear. I can hear them triggered already. This is what
you do if you're ever called that word per nearly Fuller, we
Unknown: don't know what to do when we isolate it with a whole
bunch of white folks, and we need a cold for handling that's
one thing I learned being on that mountain in Japan, because
there's mostly white guys up there. And you know what I got
along with them, because I had a code I learned real quick that
that's all I needed. Put me around any bunch of white folks
I don't have no problem when they use the word niggle, which
is what they did. Oh, even flinch. I don't bat an eye. Why
codification? That's the only difference between me and other
black guy. We're both black. But why is it that I acted different
from the way he acted? He goes berserk. I was calm all the time
now, because I'm smarter or stronger or whatever. No
codification. I'm going according to a code
codification,
Moe Factz: don't flinch, don't move, just look at them. And to
go back to a previous episode when we talked about the other N
word, Neanderthal, yes, and how we saw that being used
interracial between, quote unquote white people and quote
unquote orange people, which is another derogatory term that
they took a color and made it a term or a slur. They throw this
word around, Neanderthal. But even that has some kind of root
to it, even if not true, you understand, okay, this is your
logic. How you got to being this being a slur. But once again,
the N word doesn't have a slur, which I'm gonna stand on, that
it is a spell. It is a one word spell to elicit a reaction, and
if you feed into that reaction, then you're playing right into
the person's hand and doing exactly what they want to do. So
as Millie Fuller said, you had, you have to have codification
and not react.
Adam Curry: I saw a video just this week. You might have seen
it. I think it was like it looked like an Asian woman, and
she was on the subway, and she was just yelling the N word at
this black lady and going over and over, and she just, and she
was in, you know, she didn't let the spell affect her. It was
really interesting. And the whole thing had no power.
Moe Factz: That's the point. That's the thing. It's like, you
mashing the button, yeah, and the button is not like a
doorbell. You were saying it's like, it's not working. I'm
mashing your butt, and it's not working. Here's another example
with with Rogan. When they dug up those old tapes, right? They
thought black people were going to be all upset with Rogan, you
know, which I said I was more upset with his comments about
the monkeys, you understand? Because that's right, the Planet
of the Apes. Yeah, that goes. That leans into scientific
racism, but it's, it's losing its power, yeah, because I think
it's a consciousness of awareness to say, You know what,
you want me to react. You want me to, uh, spazz and, you know,
and just, just wow out, like you said, like you saw on the video,
you know, and hopeful, you know, say, I'm hopeful. That's the
case. But let's get back into more of how to be codified with
nearly fuller when white
Unknown: people say nigga around me, I don't flinch, I don't bat
an eye. All you got to do is just tell yourself that you know
you don't have to get permission from nobody and nothing. You
just tell yourself, that's what I'm gonna do. I'm not gonna even
look up. Whatever I'm doing. I'm not gonna even look around. Keep
doing that's what I'm doing. Because they say anyone I'm not
around anyway. Already know that. See understanding, I
understand racism. I'm not expecting them to act any other
way. They walk around, say, nigga all day, won't bother me
out and not at all. None. Nigger, nigger, nigger, nigger.
All day long, will not bother me. I mean, they can try it, you
know, they can come in and announce, well, fellow.
Yesterday, I counted the times I said, nigga, it came to 312 I'm
gonna double that today.
Help yourself. Triple it. You know,
Adam Curry: how old is this? This particular piece with newly
full this
Moe Factz: piece is probably, I'm gonna say, about 15 years
old. Yeah, maybe, you know, saying, maybe somewhere around
there, 12 to 12 to 15 years old. Um, but that's how you got the
attitude. You got triple it. Because, here's the thing, the
all because people say, Oh, I felt disrespected going back to
code, right? The only respect is self respect, and the only way
you can disrespect yourself is lie to yourself. That's it.
Yeah, completely what you do is you don't become a slave to your
emotions. That's where they want you at. They want you in your
emotional and your emotions. And like you said, That lady was
trying to poke that woman's button to set her off. And we
all have buttons. And because I said this is not, hopefully this
show is bigger than the word. This is, what is your word?
Because we all got a word for women. It's the B word. I mean,
for every racial group, there's a word you know or whatever,
what is your word and can you conquer your emotions? It's kind
of that word. It's kind
Adam Curry: of the definition of trolling, yes, because I get
trolled a lot just for my opinions or for stuff I say on
no agenda, and the minute you give into it, and the minute you
respond, then they know, ah, got him. There's his trigger word,
there's his trigger and then to respond, Yes, but the minute you
respond negatively, if emotional, etc, yeah, but even,
I mean, obviously, even responding is a win for the
troll, because the troll just wants to ride on My flow.
Obviously, correct. Hey, how's Rocco doing,
Moe Factz: he's alive and, well, I mean,
Adam Curry: he's good, he's good. It
Moe Factz: must be the male lady, because her as, I don't
know what that relationship between male trucks and dogs,
but something weird about it, yeah, but just getting back to
the point, yeah, everybody, that's this, the ultimate troll.
And so, yeah, so you just don't respond emotionally. Just just
look and like, okay, triple it. You want to troll. Triple,
triple your troll. You know, that kind of thing, right,
right? Just for a minute, just because we always get weave in
and out of what's going on in current events. This happened on
the debate last night? Yes, as soon, as soon as Kamala Harris
says something about Trump's crowd leaving it trolled him.
Yeah, you're right. And, and I was like, No, don't take debate,
you know, don't just look at her. You know, just look at her.
He stay on point. He did
Adam Curry: pretty well with most of it. She now the troll
that she was trying continuously was he doesn't respect our
military. And he tripled that. He did not respond. I mean, he
was really good at that, but yeah, the crowd size thing? No,
no, he couldn't help himself there. And
Moe Factz: I don't know what that is I mean, because, like, I
mean, we know he's a hospitality guy, and maybe that is a trigger
for him, but I'm just showing people example that everybody
has something. If you leave that sore spot open and you don't
address it, and you know, saying, get to the root of why
you feel that way, you're always going to be a slave to your
emotions. That's correct. So all right, so let's get into number
eight. See,
Unknown: it's a mindset that codification is a mindset, but
it's orchestrated. It's precision. You start breaking
bad and calling them white and all this old kind of stuff and
all like that. Hey, it has just opposite effect. Found that out
real early. The other ones tiptoeing. When they use the
word nigger. They start tiptoeing from you know, start
wanting to do in your favor because you didn't react. Not at
all, none seeing that what? What's that's telling them is
that this guy is black. I don't know whether he's a nigga or
not. In fact, I don't know what in the hell he is, you know,
other than weird and. That's one thing that white supremacists
don't like. You don't like to be able not to be able to figure
you out.
Adam Curry: Oh, interesting, double interesting that he used
the term weird, which was, was an attempt to, you know, like an
N word for JD Vance, for Trump, that was, you know, which was
not bad as an attempt. But of course, it doesn't really stick,
because it doesn't have any historical connotation.
Moe Factz: Once again, it's a spell. Yeah, yeah, the word
weird was used as a spell. It's once you're not like us, we're
over here, and you're over there, you're weird. By being
over there, weird, how? How am I weird? And you can't really give
you a definition, it's just like, Oh, you're supposed to be
upset because you're not over here with us. Words are
fascinating. And I'm a self, I'm weird, if you haven't noticed,
you say, like, No, you can't get a rise out of me. Like, all the
stuff we went through with the covid stuff and the job, you
can't get a rise out of me, because I live by trying to be
on code as much as possible. Of The only thing I will not do is
lie to myself.
Adam Curry: Can you remember the last time someone non black use
the N word on you
Moe Factz: the let me see the all, okay, the only time I've
had it used on me was in eighth grade. And this is a person that
was supposed we were friends, I remember, or acquaintances. We
were in gym class and some of his white friends, was like, I
bet you won't call him this. And yeah. And then I was like, I'll
bet you won't, you know that kind of Yeah, of course, yeah,
yeah. And you know it was he said it. And then we're saying
we got the tussling, but I mean, that that's the thing. It was
he, I don't think he really wanted to do it, yeah,
Adam Curry: it was what he was, but so, but that's interesting.
So that's 32 years ago, give or take, yeah. And so in those 32
years, the worst possible word, the spell of all spells, is not
being used against you. Yeah, that can't be, this is America.
We're the most racist country in the world. How is that possible?
Moe Factz: Well, it's, it's reserved for, first of all, I
don't, I don't get into a lot of conflict that. I mean, that's,
that's one thing is that just about me, if stuff is about to
go left, I'm out of here. Like, I mean, like, I'll remove myself
from situations I don't put myself. Eclass always tells me
that he's, like, if stuff's going down, you ain't gonna be
there, you know, that kind of
Adam Curry: thing. So because you're smart, like, you wanna be
part of that nonsense,
Moe Factz: I can read the room. I've always been good at that,
like, even in if you're in a party, or whatever the music's
going, but I can tell there's a conversation is escalating, and
I'm the guy like, I'm out of here. I'm gonna always, yeah, I
always would drive the parties. I would never ride the parties,
because I'm like, I want to leave when I want to be able to
leave, that kind of thing. So, yeah, but yeah, yeah, it's here.
I'm gonna tell you how it's racist in America when they
expect you to be the N word, that that's how it's right. And
my daughters went through this when they expected her to be the
black friend, the stereotypical black friend, that kind of
thing. Because I know it's like my oldest daughter, my other
kids, not as much, but she started to speak in slang and
that kind I'm like, You don't talk like that, but, but her
friends wanted her to be the black friend, right? That kind
of thing. Like I said, that's where, that's where we're it's a
it's if we refine racism now the N word is, is? It's only used
to, like, I believe it's only used to try to get people locked
up, like, hit me. So, you know, yeah, you can call and call the
cops and get you locked up. I think that's the that's the
purpose of it now, because we're so saturated in it as well. I
mean, that it doesn't hit like it would in the 70s, 80s, even
90s, that kind of thing, right? So, you. All right, let's get to
this last and final piece of advice from nearly fuller see
Unknown: weird niggas. I mean, no, you don't want them on the
plantation or nothing, and see nothing more weirder than a
black person on his own wavelength, got his own way of
thinking. Doesn't fit in nowhere. You might call loosely,
kind of in his own world. Man, the things that you think he'll
react to, you don't react at all. And he come up with some
strange things when he starts talking this out of nowhere. And
very seldom talks about anything unless it pertains to something
that's a weird nigga you can say anything around. He just listens
and looks at you. Sometimes looks like he's looking through
you. So back on the plantation days, they got rid of him, they
sold him down the river, and the next shipment, they put him off
on some other plantation on well, why did you sell him? You
know, I don't know. I just got a bad feeling about it. Well, what
does he do? He does what the other niggas do. He does what,
does what he's told. But it's something strange about him, you
know, he's not laughing. He playing the tambourine. You
know, he didn't get mad and cry. Well, you know, when I talked to
him like I did, he just looks at me like he's looking in another
world. Last year, I had three of them like that. I got rid all of
them.
Adam Curry: Isn't that, seeing as we've discussed, it certainly
the beginning of the show we talked about the trauma based
entertainment of Alex Haley's roots. Yes, that was exactly
what Toby was like,
Moe Factz: yep. And that was the RE. How can I say it? That was
the RE, the update. That was a system where update for that
generation of that word, yeah. Software Update, yeah, yeah, the
software that was okay. We need to. It's time for update. We
need to, and we have these. We're going to get to other ones
along the way. But I'm glad you brought that up, because I
didn't cover it in this Roots was that you're not like us, and
this is who you were, and this is how we're going to remind you
who you were when we use this word, and it worked because,
like I said, my dad and his friends, they went to school
fighting the whole week when
Adam Curry: that came out, when the series came out, yes,
Moe Factz: see my dad, he's a total different person. For me.
He's, he's a total well, like, yeah, he's, he's short on the on
the fuse when that kind of stuff comes around. And I guess that's
me. He's like, you don't want to be like your parents. You learn
from your parents. And I was more like and I've always been
like that. Like, even with my older brother, like with mama
jokes, we be back in the back of the bus telling jokes, whatever,
like that. And whenever somebody went to the mama joke, or my
brother wanted to fight, I'm just gonna get a better mama
joke off on you. This is where we're going, you know, that kind
of thing. So not, and I'm not copying nearly fuller. What I
found was, here's another weird one, you know, like, like me you
don't like because you, when you tell people, I don't that, don't
upset me like that. Don't set you. You don't want to, you
don't want to hurt somebody. Like, no, because I'm the type
if you gonna do something, do it. But like, bust a move. Like,
like, Bernie Matt, say, bust a move, you know. GBG, you know.
Say it is what it is. But if we just gonna sit here and bump
gums, all right, you say what you said, Cool, but you're not
gonna touch me. Now, let's get that. Let's get that very
different. That's different, yeah, but that's how you have to
be with it, like you're not gonna touch me. You can say what
you want to say. Now, here's the gray area, and me and grunt.
Talk about this all the time when you're a woman's
disrespected,
Adam Curry: but that's You just said it. That's different. It
doesn't matter how she's disrespected, right?
Moe Factz: Because, like, you have to go home with her, yeah,
and you don't want to lose your standing you're saying, but
hopefully you're with a woman that's on code too. But like, I
said, when that I'm just saying, like, there's times to crash out
and times not to crash out. But yeah, so it's just over words.
Now I'm good. You said what you said. Now I'm But me, I'm I can
see where it's going left.
Adam Curry: But these days, we have taken the culture to and
when I said the culture, I mean the general overall culture, to
to a place where there are many n words and many things you
can't say because, well, that's interesting to think about that
way, because they, by definition, now, are triggering
use the wrong pronoun. You can trigger someone out in the
grocery store. You.
Moe Factz: We're hypersensitive now, yeah, which that comes from
being over stimulated and more trauma based entertainment, yes,
Adam Curry: but it's, but it's still all programming. This is
taught programming like, you know, pronouns is a great I
mean, I hear kids and parents conversing about pronouns. Of
course, it's flipped. Now it's no longer the parents saying,
Oh, now, listen, now, Johnny, you got to say they or them,
just those. Make it. Don't make a mistake. Now it's the kids
telling the parents, oh no, no, no, no. The you can't do that,
dad. It's you got to say they or them, or, if you don't know for
sure, you got to ask. I mean, this, this, it's program. It's
come from school, but it's programming that is on the same
level. And we're in a way, we're all colored Now, one way or the
other, there's something that you can say to the other person
that will trigger them, yes,
Moe Factz: but here's the thing, who establishes what can be said
and what can't be said?
Adam Curry: Satan, Hello, yeah,
Moe Factz: so that's, that's the thing. That's who has the real
power is who controls who plugs the words in and says, you can
say this. You can't say this, this. This was okay last week,
just like I was more skin to go back to debate. Debate. I heard
Kamala Harris say, Kamala, how you want to say even her name
you were saying is a trigger. I mean, like even that it is,
yeah, is that she said a woman can have a baby. Blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah. It didn't matter what she was talking
about. But I'm like, Oh, now you can say a woman, yes. Like,
don't you supposed to say birthing person? I mean, like,
but see this one saying, this is the lick what you
Adam Curry: sound like? Tina sitting on the couch watching
that debate. She's except she yells it at the TV is great. The
Moe Factz: reason why is the rules are always fluid, but
that's meant by design to cause mass confusion. It's like, I
can't tell you what a woman is, and you can't say only women,
but then when I'm trying to win a general election, I have to
use different terminology so I don't turn certain people off.
And it's this constant calculus going back and forth and back
and forth, and it makes people exhausted. But I have to ask,
and it's a rhetorical question, who's pulling the levers on all
these this is acceptable. This is not acceptable. For example,
the lady that got shot in Chicago, not a peep. Not much.
No, you follow that, you know, saying, like, four years ago,
same, same scenario, somebody, a colored person, gets killed by
the cops.
Adam Curry: It was, it was sure.
Moe Factz: So like, who is, you know, who is, who was making
these decisions of when is something reporting? And when
you use logic, it kind of just, it unravels, you know, what
they're trying to do, because it's like, no that that doesn't
make sense. That's not logical.
Adam Curry: This is a core question, a very core question,
and we don't have to try and answer it right here. But I know
for sure there's not some, some group of dudes sitting on, you
know, stroking their beards, and they got the white cat. Let's
make this. Let's make this the one. It doesn't work like that.
You know, it's when it behooves, I think you mentioned this, when
it behooves multiple groups at the same time, then they
converge, and then it becomes the thing. And the woman in
Chicago, it wasn't the thing. It didn't benefit enough groups,
right? Enough, enough of the dark forces to go and turn it
into the thing. It could have easily done that. I mean, you
and I think you and I were kind of waiting for it like, Oh, this
is going to happen. It's going to happen. It didn't happen
because it didn't behoove enough groups at the same time.
Moe Factz: And it would have been blowback, because Kamala,
or Kamala, however, you want to say it identifies as law
enforcement now, yeah, yes. And I disagree with you respectfully
to say there is somebody or a group of people saying, Nah, you
know, it's political calculus. Like, no, we can't touch that,
because then they might draw the link between her being, you
know, a part of the law enforcement apparatus, and that
could be negative to us. And this is how they sit back. And
we know, like I said, those levers, is now we can't, oh,
that's a good one, but we can't. Can't take, you know, because if
we take that, when men make encounter with this, it's like
chess, you know, like I could take that piece, but what?
What's the effects gonna be, 567, moves down the board if I
take that piece?
Adam Curry: Yeah, I'll agree with you, in that case, because
of the DNC and the messages they wanted to send. In this case,
yes, it was. It was not politically the right
motivation. I think all the other groups were in play, and
could have taken the ball and run with it if the signal was
given. But by the same token, if, if one of these other groups
had had made it a real issue, and it wasn't in, you know,
Illinois, slash Chicago, where people are killed, you know,
1020 a weekend. So I think there was, there's an apathy, like,
okay, whatever, you know, it wasn't the thing
Moe Factz: that's part of it too. But even the same thing
with the supposed riots that were supposed to happen at the
DNC, that didn't happen. No, didn't happen. This is like, you
know, whatever I mean. I'm sure there's some concessions made to
make people stand down, but let's get back on the clip list.
And like I said that, but it's all pertinent to what we're
talking about. But this is the official narrative of the
history of the N word, and I believe this is from, want to
say PBS, but no, no, no, Washington Post. That's what it
was. Washington Post number 10.
Unknown: At its root, the word is n, i, G, E R, the Latin word
for Black. But as soon as enslaved Africans were brought
to these shores, the word, pronounced with various accents
and emphasis, was used to depict them, not just as something
derogatory, but as something not quite evolved from ape to human
being. By examining this one word, we get an understanding of
not only who we are, but who we have been and who we might
become. This two syllable word and its evolution reveals much
about American society. There
is some risk in attempting to isolate the idea of contemporary
culture and comparing and contrasting it to early American
culture. For me, it's an artificial distinction. I think
it's more useful to look at this word and its usage as part of a
seamless strand, really a seamless narrative that runs
from the beginning, from before the beginning of the country, to
where we are now.
In 1619, settlers in Jamestown were already using the word to
describe the enslaved blacks. You
will find that British redcoats, and this is well documented,
used the N word when they taunted the Revolutionary Army,
because the idea was, you're so weak you have to use niggers to
bolster your troops.
Adam Curry: Oh, it's the British
Unknown: the Yankees. Once
again, that's interesting. And
Moe Factz: just to go back, we were talking about the origin of
this show. This is why the A was important, and why I contacted
you. Like, no, the a dude and people want us to be ashamed of
being identified as American, but we have a unique existence,
that's for sure. We have a very and this word, I would say, is
very American. Now, I'm sure it's used other places, but it's
and I might be wrong you're saying, but I think this word is
very American in nature. Yeah, so I'm just saying like that, go
to show you like even when you were saying dos. It's like, no,
not. What impressed me about is you, you were on DOS early,
like, early, early, before even any of this lineage talk was
talked about. And I was like, He's heading down the right
path. But let me just add the A to it, and you were spot on. You
were like, You were you were on it. Like, I think this group
over here is like, you know, kind of, don't, you know, want
to be identified as his own thing, right? Yeah. So we've,
we've been here and we're not going anywhere. I hope people
understand that we're not going anywhere. We've been here, and
you've seen even before, it here wasn't here. We were here, yeah,
so it is like, it is kind of, that's, that's a rub to me, is
like we're visitors or something, no, and that's why we
feel so and just to speak for a group for a minute, so
disrespected that the red carpet is rolled out for all these
other groups of people, even though, and this is, this is
where I wrestle with myself on they are victims of white
supremacy, the system of white supremacy as well, but it's like
when we're talking about addressing needs. You. My people
have specific needs to be addressed. If you got it, you
were saying, we, it's like, if I, you know, if you, um, if you
promise to take your kids somewhere, right? And it's
probably a bad analogy, but the first one you promised, that's
the one you supposed to take first. You know, I'm saying you
don't you honor your your debts in the order you made them, that
kind of thing, you know. But like I said, it's just that's a
tangent for me. It's like, bro, we American. American is just as
much as us. We are American.
Adam Curry: Here's what I learned this summer. It's just
how poorly understood our history is, you know. And of
course, the history belongs to the victor, but our schooling
system has done such an injustice to all of American
history. You know, when we went to Plymouth, and people go to
Plymouth, oh, let's go see that rock, you know. Turns out that
rock, you know, some 95 years after the Pilgrims landed, some
dude said, oh, yeah, I think that was the rock. And, oh,
let's build a thing around the rock. But the monument to the
forefathers, you never hear about that, which is an amazing
it's like, the, it's like the, it's like the the children of
Israel, you know, stack the pebbles, the stones, like, this
is the, this is the real Georgia guidestone of America. And
similarly, the relationship between African descendants of
slavery throughout time has been very poorly reported. Slavery
has been poorly reported throughout the world has been
poorly reported.
Moe Factz: But here's the difference, just just to point
it out, we have no history but America. Everything pre America
was robbed, stolen, you know, erased from our hard drive. We
were reformatted. So, like only thing we understand, only thing
we know is America. So honestly, we're the purest Americans there
are, if you really think about it, because there's nothing
struggling against that American identity, like when people come
here from other countries, their home country, is struggling with
their American identity. We have nothing wrestling with that
American identity.
Unknown: Uh, yeah, I'm with you,
Moe Factz: so I'm just saying, like, I mean, like, I just
wanted, like, I don't know, like, hey, nobody gonna knock us
out our spot, but uh, number 11. But
Unknown: it wasn't just the clan that used the term. The N word
permeated almost every aspect.
Adam Curry: Oh, we just jumped to the clan from 1619 All right,
where's the clan now? But
Unknown: it wasn't just the clan that used the term the N word
permeated almost every aspect of pop culture and daily life, as
if it had arisen from the National ground water. And then
when you look at the the the best selling songs in the 1920s
and 30s, equivalent of the billboards hot 100 we might say
today we're looking at songs that not only use nigger
throughout the lyrics, but have nigger in the title. At the same
time, I like to say you could stand in your kitchen during
this period and you could do a slow 360 turn, and everywhere
you turn, your eyes would land on the word nigga, from your
stove polish to the trade names for your fruits and vegetables,
to the penny bank that your child has, to the board games
that your child plays with, to the card games that the adults
play in the parlor next to the piano with the nigga songster
sitting
on it. Wow, yeah,
Moe Factz: that's less than 100 years ago. Yeah. So I'm just
saying but, but at the same time, this is what I'm saying
about our identity, you know, is, is baked into American
history. But I'll continue once again, like I said, this is the
the Washington Post narrative of the history of the word. You
were gonna say something? Yeah, I
Adam Curry: was, I was gonna ask you. I And then all of a sudden,
you took me back to Washington Post, it'll come back to me. Let
me just I'll let me. Let's get into the next clip, and then
maybe it'll go back
Unknown: to me. The reigning heavyweight boxing champion of
the world, Muhammad Ali, refused to serve in the war in Vietnam.
His reasoning set off a national Firestorm.
They shoot them for what they never call me nigga. They never
leash be put no dogs over me. They're robbing my nationality,
raped and killed my mother and father. Well, shoot them for
what the hopes and dreams of this movement led to a brash new
message. Black was beautiful, baby, and you could say it loud,
I'm black and I'm proud. You could see this new sensibility
in the black exploitation films of the early 1970s black
antiheroes began to embrace a bold new identity, not by
disavowing the N word, but by claiming it. As
their own. It's the American dream, but
black exploitation flicks appeal mainly to black audiences. Took
Richard Pryor, a skinny comedian from Peoria, Illinois, to shoot
to crossover success with a rivaled routine that emphasized
the use of profanity, especially the inward spade you
nigger, dead, hunky.
Adam Curry: Yeah, we and we discussed blaxploitation. Do you
remember what episode that was on?
Unknown: Ah, I
Moe Factz: do not, but that was when we covered the rioting in
the theaters.
Adam Curry: Yeah, and people should have just a reminder that
if you're just listening to Episode 100 go back to one. Do
it over the over your winter break, you won't be
disappointed. Now is this, are you on a path to do you think
that the one of the main solutions for empowerment of
ados. Do you think that that would be for everyone to just go
on code like it just doesn't bother me, because I think
that's part of what the blaxploitation was doing, was
owning the word, but it's still that me, it's like owning the
spell. You know, it's not going to remove the spell. You just
temporarily hold it. But do you think that if, if ADOS just said
no, just not going to be bothered by that, and everybody
could actually do it? I don't think that's possible. It might
be, well,
Moe Factz: what the call calls for, and if you read the book,
you know, for any people, it's the United, independent,
compensatory code. So it's not about groups. None of that is
about your individual actions. It's an individual code. This is
why it works for me. You know, it calls me to go to no rallies,
no groups, no nothing is two things. Everything I do needs to
be constructive. That's the first thing. And then the second
thing is in the pursuance of justice, which is two things.
One is nobody's mistreated, and two, whoever needs the most help
gets the most constructive help. And that is not communism,
because we're talking about the individual. If you can help
somebody, you know, somebody that needs help, and you can
give that help help them. In
Adam Curry: fact, the Good Book says you should give them. If
they ask for your shirt, you should give me your coat and
your trousers and everything else. And
Moe Factz: that's the independent choice. You know
this is, this is why I think people hear certain keywords
like, justice, oh, he must be No justice, no peace and that kind,
no, no, no. In your individual daily life, are you mistreating
someone? Are you creating environment or sustaining
environment where a person can be mistreated if you are change
Adam Curry: it. It would be so cool if you could reprogram
everybody. If someone calls you the N word you just bust out of
James Brown, do the splits. That would be a much better response.
Moe Factz: That wouldn't be constructive.
Adam Curry: It would be entertaining. People be like
what just happened
Moe Factz: before we continue on? Am I Borgin? No, you're
fine, okay? Because I'm it's not like I'm boring down the road.
No, no, no, I
Adam Curry: would let you know you're good. Okay,
Moe Factz: so, but yeah, that's the thing. Is just that don't
even with it, even with looking at a person when they say that
to you, what is your next action? Is it constructive?
Right? I'm gonna look at you and just like, okay, like you said,
what you said? What I mean? What? What do you think I'm
gonna do something not constructive? No, am I gonna
mistreat you? No, you were saying because, because the
natural reaction that's been implanted in us is, oh, you're
supposed to get violent, you know, that kind of thing.
Somebody say that to you, you supposed to haul off and knock
them, knock them down, you know, saying and do something to
Adam Curry: them, yeah? But that's just okay, perpetuate,
perpetuating everything. Just it's the wrong direction, not
Moe Factz: even perpetu You're feeding right into. What the
trap is, you know, like, it's like, here's a piece of cheese,
you know. Like, are you not gonna take it? You know, I know,
because I know it's a metal bargain come down across my
neck. You're saying, if I take the cheese, I know, I've seen
you lay the trap, that kind of thing. And, like, I said,
that's, that's the, that's the thing, is these actions the end,
and that's why I said this works for everybody. This is not just
because it's for every however you're being mistreated, or
you're mistreating someone, or you need something, or you can
give somebody help on the individual. And this thing, if
the individual does this. In the collective, no communism. Had to
say that because people saw with words that hear those words, the
whole group changes. And then what happens is that you're
you're in the mistreating people. That's weird. I said it
on purpose. You're not into helping people when you can.
That's weird. You're not like us. You see how that work, you
see how that changes, like changes the whole dynamic. And
that's been my whole goal is to take a person's marginalized
work who is nearly who I dedicate a whole episode to him,
because I understand what they did to him, which I'm accepted,
the likelihood is going to happen to me is, is going you're
going to, if you're constructive, you're going to
get marginalized?
Unknown: Oh yeah, of course,
Moe Factz: you don't get the you're saying, the wet work you
were saying, but at best, you're going to be marginalized and
they're going to push you off to the side, like we're going to
ignore that, because we don't want to hear the masses here
that because we're in the business of confusing and
mistreating people.
Unknown: Yes, no. I
mean yes,
Adam Curry: the N word is a special case all by its own. But
ageism, you know, all kinds of different things. Are it? Is it
is the biggest, most is the oldest troll in the book with
with an intended, known outcome,
Moe Factz: right? And we all have that. That's what I'm
saying. This is just a representative. This is just a
totem everybody's, you know, everybody has across the bear,
and they're ashamed to even white supremacists have across
the bear, where you think all that, that insecurity comes
from, why you think they got to be such control freaks? It's
something there, you know, there's a there. There deep
inside? Oh, it's why they had to feel
Adam Curry: sin and guilt. Is what it's all based on. Well,
Moe Factz: I think it's fear more than anything. You know,
they they fear whatever it is. I can't, I don't know what we've
talked about it, what they might fear, but
Adam Curry: Well, how about this? They fear because they are
a relatively seen, very small group,
Moe Factz: yeah, yeah. But nobody wants to do anything to
you. That's the thing is, like, from my standpoint of being not
mistreating people, you know, it's like, I can't only speak
for me. I don't want to harm you. I understand your plight,
like I said, I understand your plight because ados, we have the
same thing on in America. We want 13% of population. We don't
want to get erased by, uh, just being flat black. We want to
have our own identity. We get it, we understand. So that's
what I'm saying. Like, like, you gotta let go of that fear,
whatever that is. And I'm just saying that's to everybody.
That's the area you have to let go of that fear and be
constructive, not destructive. But that's, that's all I heard.
All I heard last night was two people talking about how much
they could blow up stuff. What are we doing here? We live in
the best time in society ever. I mean, like we're on the cusp of
being able to solve a lot of problems if we don't have this
manufactured competition.
Adam Curry: And that's exactly it. The people want are so
trained to have a certain type of show business presentation
that this didn't match it, you know, I mean, yeah, it didn't
match the expectations of a show business oriented culture. It's
like, what is this? This is no good. This is this. We want you
to, you know, strike her back. Say this. Say that it's like,
it's like, now you jabbing wrong. You doing you doing it
all wrong. You doing it
Moe Factz: all wrong, even with this show here, I mean, as a
microcosm of that, you know, we supposed to be at each other's
throats and all. You know what? You know, that kind? No, we left
the offense at the door, you know, saying like you say, what
you say, I say what I say, you agree with me. Sometimes I agree
with you, sometimes, other time we disagree. But you know what,
we've never mistreated each other.
Adam Curry: No, not yet.
Unknown: Yeah,
Adam Curry: five years, we got five more to go as friends. You
never know,
Moe Factz: right? So I'm just saying, but I don't think that's
in our core, uh, programming is, you know, I don't it's to
mistreat people so but, and like I said, the last point, uh,
let's go ahead and get to the last point, and then we can just
go right into 14. Because this, I'll just foreshadow a little
bit this gets into coming from Richard Pryor to hip hop 13.
Unknown: I. The time Ronald Reagan was elected, Pryor had
disavowed use of the term, but a new generation was taking the
reins of pop culture. Everything was new, raw and angry. The most
visceral film of late 1980s was Spike Lee's do the right thing,
anchored by its profane, racist rant montage, dig a
wop Guinea garlic bread, pizza, sling and spaghetti bin and
victim on Perry Como Lucado Pavarotti,
chicken and biscuit eating, monkey eat baboon. Big guy,
fast, run, take your fucking Pizza, pizza and go to fuck back
to Africa. At the same time, hip hop and rap storytelling gave
new voice to young black Americans on the West Coast, a
group of young rappers called themselves NWA niggas with
attitude, and their first underground album, Straight
Outta Compton, featured 46 uses of the N word. Three years
later, their album, niggas for life, featured 185 uses of the
word and went to the top of the charts. The word gain new
currency in popular culture.
Adam Curry: Yeah, there was an interesting time that very white
MTV,
Moe Factz: which we talked about NWA, and we see in hindsight how
the members have been this supposed threat to American
society. Now, we got one guy speaking known in presidential
elections. You know, I'm having a substantial voice. And then
the next one is the first billionaire hip hop and has ties
to one of the biggest companies, you know, if not the biggest
company in the world, being apple and Doc, Dr Dre you know,
so who were they? But we're not going down that rapid. But it's
just this is when the N word went mainstream, yes, because
before, like you said, they were on black exploitation movies,
which was really, uh, very localized. I wasn't alive then,
but I'm assuming, like, how to move. How did, okay, you can,
you can feel me on this. How did movies work, pre VCR? Because I
grew up with VCR, so, I mean, because, like, we that's when
you had home libraries and movies, and if you want to see
something, you went to the local, uh, VHS store or video
store. How'd that work with movie did you have like, B rate
movie theaters that showed like, less popular movies? How did
that work? Uh,
Adam Curry: it that's a good question. I think that you had
movie theaters that just had, you know, certainly the movie
usually on a on an off night, you know, not a popular night,
they would show something that might be different.
Moe Factz: Okay. I was just wondering, like, I mean, because
I grew up from
Adam Curry: the right, but the mall, I mean, basically, you had
the mall, right, and the mall had the movieplex, and you had,
you know, maybe 510, 15 theaters. And if anything, it
was, well, we couldn't get in to see that one. So we went to see
that one.
Moe Factz: So, yeah, I was just asking for figuring out how
media was, like, disseminated at that time, because we had the
VCR. I was, like, born in 80 so, like, by 86 everything we wanted
to see we could get a hold of on, like, and watch it in the
home. So I was just, I was just curious for next well,
Adam Curry: and then after that, of course, well, around that
time, you say, 86 no earlier than that, when, because VCRs
had come out pretty early. And I remember that, you know, someone
would have, you know, a tape. And it would be like, oh, let's
all go to his house and watch Cheech and Chong well, so we it
would be like a mini, mini theater. And of course, faces of
death was the main one, you know, talking about your B
movies, that would be the one we always that he's got a copy of
it. So I think it moved pretty quickly. And there was a lot of
bootlegs, a lot of bootlegs. Mo, that was the big thing back in
the day. Oh,
Moe Factz: yeah. And that was a big thing in the 90s too. Like
movies actually in the theaters, yeah,
Adam Curry: camcorder. And you said, Yeah, this is great, you
know, crappy sound. But it was, we could it was all right, we
could do it. Was good enough.
Moe Factz: Okay, yeah, the only reason I was asking, because I
was going back to like the N word going mainstream, is
because in the 90s, you know, that's when hip hop in came
about. But in the 70s, you know, even Blaxploitation films, even
Richard Pryor, that was, you. I guess you had to buy his records
or whatever, like you weren't seeing it on television, right?
So that was, that was the only point I was trying to make. But
fast forward now. Here comes hip hop, and the Boulet was not
happy with it. So now these are clips from 2007 so it's big
chunks going on, from like the 80s all the way to 2007 and it's
it's amazing the timing of it that they tried to kill the N
word.
Unknown: The hour a funeral for the N word today at the 98th
annual convention of the NAACP in Detroit, African American
leaders, intellectuals and rap artists will join together for a
symbolic burial of the N word. Will it make a difference?
Joining us now from Washington is Dr Michael Eric Dyson of
Georgetown University. He is the author, know what I mean,
reflections on hip hop. Also joining us from Chicago is CNN
contributor, Roland Martin. He's the host of the Roland Martin
radio simulcast right now on W, V O N radio. Roland, let me
start with you. Why is this taking place now? Well, because,
I
mean, we've had lots of discussion about the course out
of the Don IMS situation in terms of what words you can and
cannot say, and so it's a raising of the consciousness of
African Americans in terms of the use of the word finding it
offensive. You know, when I ran the Chicago defenders executive
editor, I put it on our front page saying that it's time for
African Americans to make a decision. Either we say it is an
acceptable word, or we say it is not. But you have to make a
decision, because some find an offensive, or others say, hey,
the term endearment. I disagree. I find it offensive, and I
personally stop using it.
Adam Curry: Oh, man, I've forgotten the role in Martin
goes back that that's that far. Yeah, I forgot all about that.
This is
Moe Factz: Pete Boulet for him, like this is, this is him and
Michael, Eric Dyson. These were, this is when they were the cats
meow, the Boulet. And
Adam Curry: this was back when I miss was alive and I was seven,
yeah, and I, and I think I remember that when I miss it, he
might have said the N word he had, you know, he had
Moe Factz: very no nappy headed hoes,
Adam Curry: hoes. You're right, yeah, you're right, you're
right, you're right.
Moe Factz: But this is when they were doing the cleanup, pre
Obama. This is when, also when Chappelle got leaned on, when he
ran away, possibly, literally, he was a lean though. We don't
know if it's the
Adam Curry: real Dave who's back, but yeah, okay,
Moe Factz: yeah. Cuz they was like anything that was
derogatory to, you know, the black image they were they were
doing cleanup, so this was the the timing of what was going on
at the time. And they were trying to bury, give a live
burial to the N word, and you had, on one side, you had Roland
Martin, and on the other side you had Michael, Eric Dyson,
who's going to speak in the next clip. Dr
Unknown: Dyson, what are your views on the word, and is this
symbolic burial a good idea?
Well, I
think that it may be a good idea for white America. I think white
America, or other non black people, certainly should bury
the use of that to a particular nefarious term that has been
odious and offensive throughout the history. But I think that
for African American people, the use of that term has sometimes
been Yes, as a term of endearment. I know Mr. Martin
disagrees with that, but having used the word myself, and he
having used it as he said himself and stopped using it,
obviously one of the uses was a term of endearment, a term of
love, a term of circulating brotherhood. It also can be
something that's negative. My point is that you can't
legislate the use of the word itself to deal with the
realities that the word underscores. So that lynching is
much worse than the use of the word. I'm not saying that the
word is used by white people is not offensive. It is. I'm saying
but African American rappers or other people who deploy that
term are not necessarily signifying hatred. They're
signifying love. They're saying, I'm not going to let you
determine my life by the use of a word over which I have no
control.
Adam Curry: Those words and doesn't talk like that anymore.
No interesting, right?
Moe Factz: Because it's very it's a lot of words he would
even to remember he lost it when the guy was was a guy or lady
that we're saying, Kamala. Kamala. He was like, No, it's
Adam Curry: Kamala. And you're disrespecting the sister. Yeah.
Moe Factz: So I mean, just telling you how far he's gone
off the rails, and he used to be the voice of reason, you know,
saying less than 20 years ago, not even reason, but, like, the
voice of, I say, the more, uh, liberal side of,
Adam Curry: but he got made. They brought, they wheeled him
in even further high, Listen, man, you got the stature, but
yeah, you got to do a little more here.
Moe Factz: Oh yeah, he definitely had to do a little
more. So okay, this is the final part of this, the funeral. But
Unknown: growing up, my dad didn't call me that my mom
didn't call me that they called me Roland. And so I reached a
point where, again, it was so much a part of hearing it, it
became accepted. And I reached a point where I said, Wait a
minute. This is. Not a word that I should accept, even if
somebody said, Hey, you know, you know that. You know that's
my man, that's my boy. I really use those phrases. And frankly,
saying that's my name, it's just not a term of endeavor, yeah,
but for rolling it for you, that's absolutely fine. I'm not
suggesting that that's not a prerogative you exercise, but to
suggest that's a universal term that everybody has to subscribe
to would be different. I think that if you feel that way,
that's fine, but there are many other African American people,
which is why it shows you that the bearing of the N word will
not be affected. There will be some Martin Luther King, Jr, the
night he was killed, said to Andrew, young, little nigga,
where you've been, he used it as a term of endearment. Now
there's a difference, because rap music has now made it
accessible to the world, because of its circulation throughout
the country and indeed, throughout the globe. But the
point is to have a, I think, a reductive and narrow and
simplistic understanding of that term, misses the use of it by
history and suggests to us that white people exercise the
control over our lives that we don't have. Don Imus cannot be
the leader of black America. Let's within our own ranks
suggest that there are differences and complexities and
nuances that we should respect and acknowledge on both sides.
Okay, so
Adam Curry: if I understand here, this was the Boulet saying
we still need this control over the non Boulet.
Unknown: They stick. Oh no, that's their job. Yes, and
Adam Curry: so, and probably NWA was part of the problem.
Moe Factz: Yes, because NWA have been not even NWA was part of
the problem hip hop. For 20 years, gangster rap had
festered. And I'm using that word appropriately, yeah, and it
had, at this point, it had grown to be the largest portion of hip
hop. See, gangster rap used to be just a segment of greater hip
hop, but we're talking about 2007 so that's when peak 50
cents. You know, all of that was going, Jeezy, 50 cents, all
those guys, yeah, um, so now it's like, hold on, we got too
much, and we can't lose the fact that they're trying to push
Obama, yeah, into 2007 this is the year before he got elected.
So they were trying to clean up any negative black stereotypes,
words, whatever else. Um, out of the way to make, make the you're
saying the path clear for Obama. One more thing, Roland Martin
said, he said we can call each other boy, which, well, that's
saying that's very similar to the N word, yeah, and, and if it
said intra racially, it's not offensive. What can be is just
the, you know how it's the tone of, Oh, definitely, right. But
if it said it interracially automatic, even if somebody says
it in the Oh, that's my boy and but it's interracially is like,
you kind of get a side eye, that kind of thing. And I've even
played on the show where people would say it and they didn't
mean it like that, but then they would go back, either change it,
that's how they said it the next time, or or self censor. So one
last point I want to make is my dad. It's funny that this my dad
had the hugest issue with homeboy and homie, yeah,
because, like, what do y'all mean homeboy or boy, because
that's like, when, like, no, and homie, because that was close to
homo. He's like, What y'all running around here, calling
each other, homie, yo, homie. He was saying, like, what does that
mean? You know, because just, just to give a perspective,
like, his issue wasn't the N word, because he would drop it
every once in a while, and the one you would hear the most is
prefaced by crazy ass you were saying that, and then the N
word, you know, saying, so that's how old, older people use
it. So
Adam Curry: it's interesting, because amongst white guys,
after this day, will still say, That's me. He's my boy. We can
say that amongst each other. And of course, you know where it
comes from, but it's a total term of endearment. And I think
I probably still have friends who will still say, Hey, how you
doing, homie? They'll still still say that amongst white men
amongst each other.
Moe Factz: Yeah, because, because it came out of homeboy
and hip hop into the pop popular culture. But yeah, so that means
it's just weird how these words and you know, and you can follow
the trail back to where they came from,
Adam Curry: blown away behind by hearing Dyson and Martin. I was
like, these are two different guys from who they are today.
Moe Factz: You know the weird,
Adam Curry: I know it's, you know, it's hard not to use the W
word.
Moe Factz: And you know why? You know who I got it from divorce.
Unknown: You know, my kids, really, oh, man,
Moe Factz: they use all the time. I mean, like, it's kind of
like a, it's a, it's a word that has. So many different meanings,
yeah, but it's like how you used it, you know, um. And especially
in their head, and when they're having conversations with each
other, they can say it like four and they have four different
meanings depending on how how it said and when it said, Yeah, of
course, um, but I was saying before that is we saw a similar
thing with redneck around this time with Jeff Foxworthy, yep,
yep, when you saw the embracing of the term redneck, because
redneck used to be a derogatory, derogatory, yeah, but it had a
similar path as the N word, that where it would people either
self proclaimed to be a redneck, or self identify to be a
redneck. Or to
Adam Curry: this day, I had my boy, Mike, who did our shower,
you know, he's said, You don't tell me where you come from. He
says, I'm just a redneck hillbilly, all right? I know
exactly what you mean, right?
Moe Factz: But if somebody could call him that like I said, Oh,
no, probably, yeah, exactly the work words are so amazing of how
the power they they wield, when, when they're used. But here is
now we because the funeral happened in Detroit 2007 and
2007 was the first hip hop politician, Kwame Kilpatrick.
You remember him?
Adam Curry: Kwame sounds familiar.
Moe Factz: Big, big guy, big football
Adam Curry: player, of course, of course, yeah, yeah. He
Moe Factz: got in trouble because he the Boulet. And he
was part of it, was trying to kill the word, and then he ends
up using it.
Unknown: Last summer in Detroit, a funeral was staged for the N
word. Black leaders symbolically buried the epithet during a
national convention of the NAACP, the mayor of Detroit,
Kwame Kilpatrick, gave me eulogy. We're
taking this out of our spirit. We're taking it out of our
being. We're taking it out of our minds. Today we bearing it
dead. But
during his State of the City address carried live on local
television and radio. He said this,
in the past 30 days, I've been called more than any time in my
entire life. In the past three days, I've received more death
threats than I have in my entire administration.
The mayor's use of the word is being criticized by local civil
rights leaders, saying he used the wrong Forum and the wrong
word for his outburst. Oh
Moe Factz: no. Now here's a black man getting in trouble. N
word, yeah,
Adam Curry: can't do that.
Moe Factz: So this is what we're talking about before of these
levers, you can't say that now, even though you're black, and
he's only saying that he's being called this. And this is when he
got into some campaign trouble, and he was in an affair, and
then there was a, allegedly, and I say that very strongly,
allegedly, a dead stripper that came up.
Adam Curry: It's their favorite, yeah, dead stripper. So hooker,
dead hooker better, but dead stripper always wish. I'm
Moe Factz: wondering, like, how, how did that person get there,
if they were that was that a leveraging thing? But he went to
jail, and I think also he was moved out of the way for Obama,
because he was the he was, if you said, Okay, who will be the
next black presidential candidate? Well, I would have
probably been 10 years from then, but, well, we could easily
see him. We all know
Adam Curry: it was supposed to be Blowfly. Who's that? Oh, my
God, wait, I throw out a reference and you don't know.
Blowfly, no, oh, Blowfly, the first black president. Do you
mind if I play you a little bit of Blowfly. Please, please. Blow
Fly first black. I don't know what the date is. There has to
be early 80s, 1983
Unknown: ladies and gentlemen, introducing the first Nick.
Adam Curry: You remember it now, right? Yeah, yeah, okay, sorry
to throw you off track. No,
Moe Factz: no. It fit perfect.
Adam Curry: We played that song over and over and over again. It
was hilarious. Yeah,
Moe Factz: that was it fit perfect into what we're doing
here. Um, but, yeah, this is Kwame Kilpatrick, I think we
stopped it. Yeah, we're at 18. Okay, let's go and get an 18.
That
Unknown: outburst was in response to a scandal over
sexually explicit text messages sent to a former top aide and
possible perjury charges from testimony during a
whistleblower's trial, all of it subjected the mayor to withering
criticism in the press and public. We've never been
in a situation like this before, where you can say anything, do
anything, have no facts, no research, no nothing, and you
can launch a hate driven, bigoted assault on a family
later, Kilpatrick spokeswoman said the mayor used the word as
an example of how hurtful it can be. The N word has been used as
a slur against blacks for more than a century, but it is also
used by blacks when referring to each other. National Black
leaders have called for its use to end
Moe Factz: clear it up. So now we have to get into the history
of the N word. And people might say, Mo, ain't that what you've
been doing for the last 20 clips?
Adam Curry: No, no. We're going to talk about the constrict, the
the contraction, the actual phrase N word. I
Moe Factz: present the actual phrase N word 19
Unknown: and most importantly, non black people would still be
casually saying they're without OJ. Technically, we should thank
this guy. That's Chris Darden, the black man tasked with
prosecuting OJ to the 1994 murder of Nicole Simpson and
Ronald Goldman. Chris Darden may be the most unlucky man in the
history of American jurisprudence, but he should
also be recognized as an unsung hero in meaningfully changing
racial discourse forever. It's no secret that the OJ trial,
known as the trial of the century, stopped being about OJ
at some point in the legal proceedings, whether
intentionally or by chance, OJS trial became a proxy for the
never ending, eternal debate on race in America, 63%
of whites feel that OJ Simpson can get a fair trial, while 61%
of blacks say he cannot. Has race now taken center stage as
we continue dissecting this courtroom drama and
through the course of the trial, it became explicitly about the
word there's a specific moment when this happened. It was when
OJS legal team discovered that the lead detective in the case,
Mark Furman, routinely used the word to describe black people,
and you say on your oath that you have not addressed any black
person as a nigger or spoken about black people as niggers in
the past 10 years, Detective Furman,
that's what I'm saying, sir, and
that there were recordings of him doing so while bragging
about brutalizing black people.
Adam Curry: Yep, yep. I remember it well.
Moe Factz: So you were, you were
Adam Curry: in New York I was in New York City,
Moe Factz: which OJ Simpson, you talking about weird Negro the
pit. If you open up the dictionary and you want to have
a picture beside that term, it has to be OJ Simpson, because is
he trolling? Oh, well, he's dead now. But was he trolling, or was
he that oblivious to not know how certain thing, even, like I
said, interracially and interracially, you know the not
to trigger people with the OJ stuff, but like the, Oh, the
scary movie thing with the banana and just, oh, if I'd have
did it this hot, I would have done it kind of thing. It's
like, Do you Do you know? OJ, like, how that's coming across.
Are you post racial I can't. I got to this day. I don't know if
OJ was trolling the whole time, or was he just like, I'm bigger
than all of this, which would actually make him, uh, weird by
the definition of nearly fuller gave right? It just, I'm telling
you, like, I've watched many of OJ, and just for people, you
probably get mad at me. I don't think OJ did it. You understand
it is what it is. Um, you did he have somebody do it? Maybe could
have been some associates of other people that were heinously
deleted, to use a word like, here we go with the change in
language, right? I did that purposely finalized under live,
yeah, delete it. You know, that kind of thing. So even the fact
that you can't even talk about it this many years later without
invoking emotions is amazing. And the N word, actual term,
came out of this. I mean, what? Like? What? You want to give
some context to it, or Yeah, I
Adam Curry: can just give you my experience at the time. Yes, he
came across as a hubris field celebrity, regardless of race,
but I can tell you that everybody I was around was
really hoping that he would not get convicted, like, Oh, God,
please, because it became about race, that's what it became
about. And you know, I think the fear that it would just erupt in
race riots everywhere was very real.
Moe Factz: For context. Reason why you I think you're saying
and correct me if I'm wrong, is what happened after Rodney King,
right? Yes, in LA, just for people that may not know what we
it's funny, because we have an understanding, because we know
what was the context of that, but maybe they didn't know. And
I think 9293 after the Rodney King, verdict, la burned pretty
much, yeah. So I can see it from your standpoint of, yeah, let's
just not repeat that. And I can see just see, first I understand
to be understood. I can see how people thought, that's why he
got off because LA, like, we don't need this. We can double
back and get him another way. But we don't. We like, we just
kick this can down the road, which I can see that scenario
playing out as well.
Adam Curry: There was a lot going on with that trial. You
know, Marcia Clark, I mean, it was, it was really, for all
intents and purposes, it was one of the biggest celebrity
televised trials. Uh, almost not even Michael Jackson didn't
overshadow it. You know, you because, you know, remember
that, oh yeah, went to cancel Mike. It was just everybody,
just
Unknown: because of race, yeah, with
Adam Curry: and. But I think it was really the people just that
we were because we had had the the Rodney King riots, everybody
just didn't want it. Just, it's like, please. We just don't want
it. And then when the glove didn't fit, so you must have
quit. It was, it was like, everyone, oh, okay, well, you
know, we're not quite sure exactly how, but the glove
didn't fit, so you must have quit. Please get it over with.
We just people were afraid and tired of what could happen, and
it was completely race based.
Moe Factz: And just go all the way there OJ being accused of
what he did would be the ultimate N word, yes. And I mean
that, I mean that literally, because that's the fear a big
black book killing, uh, attractive, blonde, white woman.
Adam Curry: He had all the elements, all of them that, that
Moe Factz: is that. I mean, even Michael Jackson with the key,
even though he was kind of black. I mean, like an
appearance, not really anymore, yeah, not racially, but in
appearance. And then keep that was bad, that was terrible, but
this, this fed in to the stereotypical situation of a n
word, and the biggest fears of that, of like I said, and her
being blonde and attractive, um, if if OJ wife was Mexican or
Latina or Asian or black, it wouldn't have been the biggest
story. Agree, the fact that I said she was an attractive white
woman. And here's the other part that nobody wants to talk about
Ronald Goldman being Jewish. This is why the media went in on
OJ, yeah, with all the ink, let me just say, we go, if we gonna
tell it, we're gonna tell it all the way this. This is why the
media was stacked up against OJ, because he was accused of
killing, uh, a Jewish man and an attractive white woman. But
Adam Curry: what was, what was really interesting, Mo, is the
feeling was It was not about the people anymore. It wasn't about
the people.
Moe Factz: It wasn't about OJ, no, it wasn't about OJ, it
wasn't about the victims. It was about who's going to win the
race game. Yeah, yeah, that's what it's exactly what it was.
And we saw it play out on X Twitter, just less than a year
ago, when he died, the same people that were saying, OJ did
it? You know it was, it was the strangest thing, because go back
to current times and when OJ trout happened, the majority of
black people say he did. Do it. That was cost of the Race game
and but a lot of people didn't think he did it. Because, I
mean, just, well, I'm me, I'm just like, how that the
logistics of it work, but, but here nor there. Then the OJ
story came out, the mini series with Cuba, uh, Cuba, good
Junior. And then the narrative start to change amongst black
people when we covered this, and this is I'm gonna talk about the
media mind control. Now, black people started saying, Well,
maybe he did do it, or he did do it, you know, that kind of
thing. But since we went through George Floyd and everything like
that, now when he died, oh, let's play the Race game again,
and we're gonna take OJ back. When I say we on top, not me,
but black people. Oh, we're gonna, we're gonna circle the
wagons around. OJ, even though we thought he was guilty, and
even though we didn't think he was black, he was. OJ, we're
gonna circle the wagons on
Adam Curry: there's one difference, and that's the
context. Is we didn't have any other media than mainstream
media. So you had, you were either listening to, well, if
you were, if you weren't listening to music just from New
York, if you weren't listening to z1 100 or PLJ or Kiss FM, for
music, you were listening to Howard Stern. You were listening
to Imus. I think probably a lot of people listen to Imus. And in
the media, well, we had CNN, who had basically non stop coverage,
but you would, you would wait for the latest report, or you
come home like, Oh, what happened to the OJ trial and and
you, there was, there was no, there was no social media. So
it, it was, it was very you. I think people have much more.
Feel like you just said of control, one, we can post stuff,
we can say stuff, we can band together, we can repost, we can
do all these things. There was none of that. It was a
frustration. And just hanging on, and even the reporting like,
oh, I don't say it like that. You know, it was a very, very
different media landscape, and you felt like you did not have
control. And I it feels like it feels like we have more control
now we don't necessarily, but it feels like we have more control.
Yeah,
Moe Factz: because you everybody has a platform, yeah, which can
which
Adam Curry: makes you feel good, personally, yes, I said it, I
went I did it,
Moe Factz: I got it, I got it off my chest, yeah,
Adam Curry: I see you. Doing that all the time on Twitter.
Mo,
Unknown: oh, yeah,
Adam Curry: I see you, yeah, well,
Moe Factz: my thing on X's like, this is that I try to make
people think about stuff and not be binary. It's like, think, are
you really being objective? One thing is, like, an objective
check you're not like, are you really being objective? No, so
that's, that's my, that's my, always
Adam Curry: good for me, always good for a like and a retweet
for me,
Moe Factz: that's my contribution to the world. Is
like, are you really being objective? You know, because,
like, you know, that's what we need to be. Is objective,
alright? So let's get into this last clip from OJ and how
Christopher Darden pulled it off.
Unknown: As you can imagine, doubt was immediately cast on
whether or not the crime scene evidence that he discovered
could be trusted. Questions swirled about whether or not he
planted the now infamous glove to frame a successful black man,
people wondered if the LAPD, notoriously cruel toward the
black community, could even be trusted to carry out a fair
assessment of the accused multi hyphenate entertainer OJS.
Defense made such a big deal out of this blockbuster revelation
that the entire case became about these tapes and by
extension, the word as you can imagine, the prosecution hated
this angle,
but offended by those remarks, I would rather not stand at the
same podium at which he stood a few moments ago. The issue here
is whether this defendant killed Nicole Brown or Ron Goldman or
not. The issue here isn't my ethics. The issue here isn't
racism. The issue here isn't detective Furman. This case is a
circus, and they've made it a circus. The
defense, led by Johnny Cochran, was seizing control of the
narrative by centering one of the bloodiest words in American
history. The prosecution was going to have to convince a
majority black jury to trust the integrity of their star witness,
Mark Furman, after hearing him commit the cardinal sin of
racism and break the rule of 1968 if you've never heard of
that rule, that's okay. I made it up. Okay, I didn't make it
up. I just made up the name, but, but it's real.
Adam Curry: Where was that from? Is that? What is that?
Moe Factz: That's the YouTuber that put that together. Uh, I
didn't get his name. I'll try to get after the show. But. Yeah,
he did a great breakdown of the OJ trial. That was, what was
that? That was 20 Yeah,
Adam Curry: we got one last one here. Okay, so I guess go out.
Moe Factz: Just go and get to 21
Unknown: The rule is simple after the year 1968 the word is
to be avoided, only permissible when quoting someone else. This
rule is pretty intuitive, but Republican political strategist
Lee Atwater gives it some helpful context in what are
known as the Southern Strategy tapes. Yes, I know another set
of tapes, but bear with me. This political strategy was designed
to help Republicans capitalize on the racial hostility of
southern white people after the Civil Rights Movement. Here,
I'll let Lee Atwater explain it himself.
You start out in 1954 by saying, nigger, nigger, nigger. By 1968
you keep saying nigga. That hurts your backfire. So you say
stuff like force plus and states rights and all that stuff. And
you get it so abstract. Now you're talking about cutting
taxes and all these things you're talking about are totally
economic things in a byproduct of the med flats get hurt worse
than what Dr
OJS trial. Johnny cochran's plan to introduce these murder tapes
into the trial would make the word a constant part of the
courtroom discourse.
I'd like to imagine that Chris Darden couldn't abide such a
possibility. He later stated how much he hated the word and
wouldn't allow it to be said in his own home, and so he refused
to say it in the courtroom, instead creating the now
ubiquitous euphemism for the word N word,
there it is.
Moe Factz: So that's how N word came about, and just for a
little bit of clarity now you see where dog whistles come
from. Yeah, with what was mentioned in the beginning of
the clip, with lower taxes, all these different terms. When you
hear people say, right, states, rights, that's a big one.
That's, that's, that's, that's a big one right there. So you see,
it has some basis, even though people might actually, literally
be talking about lower taxes. When you have that kind of clip
that you can play, people can spin it any kind of way, but,
oh, that was a dog whistle. That's when you said that you
didn't really mean lower taxes. You meant hurting black people,
you know, that kind of thing. So I just wanted to add that into
the word war. So, um, but yeah, that's how the that's how the N
word came about.
Adam Curry: My favorite part of that trial was later when Marcia
Clark hooked up with Chris Durden. Oh yeah, that was the
funniest. Like, oh, okay, there you go. And to
Moe Factz: answer your question, that was Garrison Hayes YouTube
channel, where that came from, just to give the content creator
credit there. But I guess we need to thank some people now.
Adam Curry: We need to thank a whole bunch of people, because
this is, of course, the very last in the series of mol facts
with Adam curry. So the
Unknown: white man and the black man have to be able to sit down
at the same table. The white man has to feel free to speak his
mind without hurting the feelings of that negro. And the
so called Negro has to feel free to speak his mind without
hurting the feelings of the white man. Then they can bring
the issues that are under the rug out on top the table and
take an intelligent approach to get the problem solved. What's
the only way that they'll ever do it?
Adam Curry: Then, before we move on. Mo, I want to thank you for
the past 99 episodes, and of course, for today's episode that
we've been doing, that we've been doing, exactly what that
clip has said since the last time we'll play it. Probably
Moe Factz: the funny thing is that we did it before the clip
even surfaced. But that was the cool part about it.
Adam Curry: We're breaking all the stereotypes telling you
crazy. Hey, we're gonna kick off with our executive and Associate
Executive producers who have supported Episode 100 and of
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Unknown: Caller 20 is Blaze only Impala,
Adam Curry: and we kick it off with Benjamin nites, who has a
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because one of the things I did was try to make this show as
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was a conscious ever effort of mine, so please continue. I
mean, our producers have done a great job with sharing. I always
see on x and other places. Hey, you need to check this out. You
need to check this out, you know. So I appreciate much.
Appreciate it, but please continue to share, because
hopefully this will be valuable even years from now. Well,
Adam Curry: it's going to stay up. If nothing will ever come
down. It's going in perpetuity. And we're going to make sure
it's on all kinds of backup systems. I think we're also on
archive.org but if not, I'll make sure that happens, just so
that I appreciate that for a long time. Hey, and you know
what, why don't you download it all onto a CD or something, or
onto a thumb drive, or a couple of thumb drives. So one day the
anthropologists can go, what is this?
Moe Factz: They make great stocking stuffers.
Adam Curry: Blathercast comes in as executive producer 333 sorry
for missing the draft. This is Sir Johnny B I'll take a
douchebag for that. Oh, goodness gracious. Wasn't expecting a
douchebag. Well, don't we? I don't think
Moe Factz: he deserves it, but I mean, if he's asking for, I
guess we got to kind of honor him.
Adam Curry: So hold on a second. Oh boy, it's like I wasn't
expecting a douchebag. If you want it, go for it. And I have a
request for a posthumous baller. I was the big baller, pre big
baller, so I'll take that now. I think we can do that.
Unknown: Baller, shot caller, 20 inch blades only, Impala, and he
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Adam Curry: then we had, this was a note and a card that was
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six and sparkles of chaos? Yes, yes. With the beautiful card,
beautiful now you have the card. Mo, explain. Explain. This card.
It is a
Moe Factz: hand painted card of a Black Butterfly. Let me grab
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Butterfly, spiced Bush Swallowtail, which I'm a
butterfly guy, if you didn't know. And this was in honor of
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And it's mentioned in the note as well, but it's a beautiful
hope we can get it in the show notes. If not, I'll probably be
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Renegade.
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And then he has a quote here from Sheriff Bart. Who's Sheriff
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Adam Curry: Sheriff Bard, my work here is done. I'm needed
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Moe Factz: All right, so we have a little short block here, and
this is just on who's allowed to say it, which I'm gonna say
right now, no one in mixed company. Did you stick to that
rule? Who's allowed to say the N word?
Unknown: Honestly,
not many people,
people of color.
I would think you know, only
black people are allowed to say the N word point blank. I
don't have a problem with any other black people saying it. I
just think, like be conscious of how you say it and where you're
using it in the context, and don't use the hard er, because
that's really bad.
I don't want people to ever forget that that was the last
word that some black men or women would have heard before
they were killed, before they were raped, before they were
assaulted. The word isn't what holds the power. It's the
conditions that that word existed under that still
perpetuates today,
Adam Curry: just for the context. Mo, you said no one in
mixed company, yes, but that you can do it if you're not a mixed
company. Regardless,
Moe Factz: I won't know about it. I'm sorry. I won't know
about it.
Adam Curry: Oh yes,
Moe Factz: I got you see how that work. I mean, like, I'm not
gonna be coming if I'm there. It is mixed company. Yeah, you
follow me. Like, I follow you. I'm an N word absolutist in this
standpoint that I'm not one of these people, that people of
color, slash colored people, can use it like, say, for instance,
Fat Joe or Asian people or that kind of thing. If you live close
to the culture and how they like to say it, that don't fly with
me. I think that's a word that needs to be reserved for black
people to use, but I think it's tacky when black people use it
in mixed company of other people. I make them clear what
my stance is, but if you use if you want to use it, make sure
it's not in mixed company that way, just for your sake and
safety and just everything else that's going on with being
canceled or wherever else. I mean, if you feel you have to
use that word, knock yourself out. But just don't do it in
mixed company. But I'm not one of these people that give out n
word passes to you see, and see, listen, this is a southern thing
versus a northern thing too. In the north New York, those kind
of places, I think they live so close together that you had
certain other ethnic groups. And even in California, you see it
as well that they let these other groups use the N word.
Then it gets confusing, when it gets disrespectful, because it's
like. Are you saying it to disrespect me, or are you
saying, I wish we can't go back. There's only one way to
disrespect yourself, against a lot of yourself. But I'm just
saying like, are you using it how I will use it against
another black person, that I'm being disrespectful, but not
with his word? Are using it as a slur, because that's where it
gets confusing. So I'm an N word absolutist. I don't use the word
in mixed company. I think it's tacky at best. It could be
trashy and terroristic. Oh, and I don't I suggest no other
people should use it in mixed company. If you feel the need to
use the word
Adam Curry: is that that's exactly what I wanted to hear
from it, and
Moe Factz: that's the best advice I can give you to stay
out of trouble. You were saying like to be honest. But if this
teacher would have listened to me, he wouldn't have had the
issue. And this is probably, if you want to say, the funniest
use of the word, if it's possible, but this teacher, he
gets in some hot water over
Unknown: Valley, traditional high school is in the middle of
a racial controversy right now, a teacher used the N word
towards the students. The word is only six letters long, but
the impact is far reaching, and we do want to warn you that some
of the language in this story is strong and it may offend you, it
may offend some other people. But since the story is not just
about the N word, it's also about the teacher's intent and
definition of the word, we have decided to leave it in the story
for you to decide.
And what did he say
specifically to you? Sit down. Keyshawn chambers is a freshman
at Valley High School, a Boy Scout, a football player, a
member of the ROTC, an honor roll student. He was hanging
around his teacher's classroom door in December. The teacher
told him to sit down, and the teacher says that N word first,
and
I just kind of was stunned a second, well, well, then get
away from the door. And I was just I repeated the same insult,
because that's sort of what I've been trained to do.
Moe Factz: Once again, this is confusing. This word is conf, is
confu, and this variation is not the hard R, no, that was
obvious. I'm letting people know like it's not, it's, don't use
any of them. But there those are two different, completely
different words, completely, but people can hear them the same.
Now, are
Adam Curry: you going to get into the difference between
these two words?
Moe Factz: I mean, not really. I mean because, I mean because we
covered it kind of in the back and forth, in the funeral aspect
of it, you know, you have the hard R variety, right, which is
the spell, and then you have the n at the GA, which is like the
term endearment amongst black people. So, I mean, that's
pretty cut and dry. But like I said, it's, it just gets
confusing which spells are meant to be confusing. But let's go
ahead and
Adam Curry: get whatever you whenever you say with a hard R,
all I can hear is Eddie Murphy mocking a white person using it.
He does that so well, all right, here's the next second part of
this clip. He
Unknown: says n, i, G, G, E, R is a racial slur, but says that
students use ni GGA as often as they say dude or hey man, and
Dawson says as much as he does not like the word still use the
slang version to feel more comfortable with black students.
Why? Why is this word used so frequently? So I just, I just
don't understand it, and I'm trying to understand it. I need
help. Yes, I use
Adam Curry: this guy needed to mofax with Adam Curry's, but we
were there to help see, finish the clip.
Unknown: I just, I just don't understand it, and I'm trying to
understand it. I need help. Yes, I use nigga. I've used it. I
admit it. I put the H on it to emphasize it's please. Can you
lend a nigga a pencil? What
kind of example are you setting for your students if you use a
word that you don't have to use
upon reflection, that's not good. Dawson
was suspended for 10 days without pay from January 9 to
January 23 and he has to go to diversity. Training. He says
that he's learned from this experience and hopes that others
think twice before using the
N word,
I will never say any form of nigga. You know, I'm cured of
that you
Adam Curry: had to go to diversity training. He's cured.
He's cured. And
Moe Factz: this would never happen if you take my advice of
never using it in mixed company, but
Adam Curry: also not also the context of a spell, he was, he
was cured from the spell, yes,
Moe Factz: yes, but he also triggered unintentionally, yeah,
he rubbed up against, you know, it's like, did you say
Beetlejuice or not, it's kind of like, sorry You said
Beetlejuice. So here's another and, and in this case, I have to
blame black people for this. Of using this word so flippantly
amongst mixed company, I find it. Tack is one of my pet peeves
and one of the most awkward things if you're as a black
person or with another black person, but they gave their non
black person, no matter the race, what it is, the N word
pass and they drop it, and then it's like this weird, because,
like, you look at the person that said it, and then you look
at their black friend, and then they both look at you, and it's
like, the you know, like, it's the most awkward situation. And
people know exactly what I'm saying, because either you've
been in this situation as one of these parties, it's just like,
oh, that's how y'all getting down over here, huh? But I guess
it's just don't do it, just don't I mean, just be like, be
saying he needs help. You know, we're trying to give you help.
But Kendrick Lamar ran into this situation with a concert. Goer
Kendrick
Unknown: Lamar, a young man who I consider the leader of the new
school for this generation, was performing at the Hangout
festival in Alabama, and he decided to bring this young
Caucasian Delaney on stage to do a little trap karaoke. Now,
well, when you younger, you don't see things that way simply
because you only know the N word because your favorite black
artist uses it all the time, and your favorite black
personalities use it all the time, and your favorite black
athletes use it all the time. It's in the music that you
purchase. So I understand how, for a youngin, you know, the use
of the N word can be confusing. Now, Kendrick bought this white
woman on stage and had her sing Magic City. Let's be clear, this
song, match city has the N word in it 21
times.
Let's listen to the audio and see How Delaney handled this
fear factor challenge over
Adam Curry: Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know that happened.
Moe Factz: Yeah, this is, this is, this is a few years ago. But
even amongst Kendall Mars crew, this is Schoolboy Q was one of
his. It's a loosely, loose group called Black hippies. They are.
They disagree on this topic. You
Unknown: talking about these hipsters piled into your shows?
Oh yeah, talking about you can go ahead and say the N word in
here. So hold on, hold on. You feed my family, you pay my rent,
you you know what I'm saying. Like, you're not racist. You in
here listening to my music. Yeah, the line comes up. I'm not
expecting you to blah, blah, blah. Like, say it. It's a rap
concert. Like, I'm not telling you to go out on the street,
yeah, on the street and say it like, you know, I'm saying don't
do that. Like, but when you in the concert, man, be
comfortable. Like, our whole thing got high powers, like,
Kendrick made a song, but this is still for all of us. It was
called ethnicity. You know what I mean? Like, we don't believe
in that. Yes, we're black, Asian or whatever, but at the end of
the day, we all people. We bleed the same, breathe the same. We
may have babies the same. We all like the same music, obviously,
you know, so like, if you in my concert and the N word comes up,
don't be scared to say it. Like, don't go somebody gonna hurt you
in my show. Like, you know, we all having fun. We relieve your
stress.
Adam Curry: This reminds me of a story in Austin, I want to say,
maybe two, three years ago, where a bunch of schoolgirls
were singing along. I don't know what's I don't remember the
song, and they were doing an Instagram then it had the N
word, and they. Were, you know, they were just wrapping along
with the N word, and they got expelled from school. And
Moe Factz: once again, mints come. And here's where I'm
confused, because I get confused like everybody else. If you make
art and the art is meant for the world's consumption. Is it okay
to use the N word? Because technically, that's mixed
company. You catch what I'm saying, like I don't. I go back
and forth wrestling with myself on is it should it be used or
not, and where I end up landing is if it has artistic purpose
and not just a filler word, I think you have justification to
use the word, But if you're just using it to punctuate sentences,
I don't
Adam Curry: that's just Yeah, right, but that comes down to
you're saying the artists, the artists themselves,
Moe Factz: yeah? But, I mean, there are certain artistic
standards, you know, like it just like we could. I know
people that punctuate sentences with MF, which also has a racist
connotation, but that's another story for another day. Um, is
it? It, even with, even with swearing like I don't swear on,
uh, on this show much, unless it's necessary to illustrate a
point, and that's what I'm saying. Like, is it necessary to
use these words to make a point, or are you just using it? Just
to use it? And I believe the reason why I was using rap is to
fill in. It's a good filler word. When you're trying to have
a syllabus, you're balancing your syllables, syllables in the
line. You can throw that one in there. And I'm saying it's like
a filler word. So I think that's one of the main purposes of it.
So I mean, that's, I don't know where I stand. I don't know
where I stand on it, because you don't want to censor art. But
also, art is a very, you know, I'm saying, like, are usually
really art at a point? Yeah.
Adam Curry: I mean, is Banksy art is who's afraid of red,
yellow and blue art. I mean, right, can go on forever for me,
none of it bothers me, like whatever, yeah, none of it.
Moe Factz: I see where you're coming from. But here, the
reason why I made this, this segment, is this next set of
clips, and I didn't want to really talk about her. I avoided
her online as much as possible. But it was the it was the
interest that she drew in that interest me, not her herself,
the lady that the TRad wife that dropped the N word. I don't know
if you've heard her or not. No, no, no, I don't know. Oh yeah.
This was a big thing about a few months ago, 28 so it's
Unknown: been requested. Let's talk about Trad wife. Tick
tocker, Lily Gaddis, a Trad wife, short for traditional
wife, basically the idea that a woman's proper place is in the
home, cooking, cleaning, while the man brings in the money. And
Lily's been in the news recently because there was a video that
she posted where she was chatting with her viewers about
a with her viewers about a quote, dumb whores, immigrants
Fresh Off the Boat looking for a green card, as well as gold
diggers with it all. Then, leading to this clip, everybody
I know who's married right now, they're married to broke
and they don't care. We don't give a money. That video blowing
up. A lot of the responses going, what did she say? They're
getting millions and millions of views until her Tiktok got
suspended online. You saw tons of people super pissed off and
disgusted, clearly, then responding with his video.
So a recent video of mine seems to have upset members of a
certain community, and it this, although backlash just really
made me, you know, just really do a deep dive, like do a soul
search, and after all that, I still couldn't find a care.
Adam Curry: Wow, controversy. Oh no. And
Moe Factz: this is where you have to be weird when she said
that collectively, everyone should have just looked at her,
almost like looking through her, because the whole point of this
was to draw engagement. I'm gonna say what shouldn't be said
or couldn't be said exactly, you know, and like flies the shit.
Once again, I use that in an artistic way. Yes. Here they
come. Here, everybody, the haters came the Oh, you, Oh,
you, you. You're based Lily. You're based only. And then at
the mean, just to spoil the punch line here, I mean, because
they're going to get into it, but when they started looking to
her past, she didn't meet the litmus test of the people. She
thought she was based for but 29 with
Unknown: all of that leading to people online, finding her job,
sending the clip to her employer, which also, I will say
I found confusing. Why does a Trad wife have a job? You should
be in the kitchen, making sandwiches and babies, making
Harrison Butker types feel like manly men, despite playing the
one position they sometimes let women play. But yeah, she was
apparently a marketing and sales manager at a home health care
company for the elderly and disabled in North Carolina, we
got to go past tense, because yesterday, without naming her,
the company announced that it had fired an employee over
quote, inflammatory remarks on social media that do not align
with the values and beliefs of our company. Right into that
news, we saw a lot of people rejoicing, but also a lot of
other people pissed off. So personally, my reaction was much
closer to Hank Green's. But I'm saying there's never been a more
clear example of a person trying to rage bait their way into
becoming a conservative pundit than this woman. And in fact,
Lily herself ended up tweeting, thanks black community for
helping to launch my new career in conservative media. You all
played your role well, like the puppets you are, and it appears
like she's gonna be speed run in the circuit. I mean, she was
just on Infowars. She just made a video about everything being
gay. And ultimately, this ends up being an example of the
culture war economy that we see online.
Adam Curry: Ooh, I like that. Culture war economy. Ah,
exactly. Yeah, that's right, yeah. And
Moe Factz: the thing is, she doesn't have any talent at all
other than saying the N word, you bring her on your show.
Everybody brought on Candace Owens, Alex Jones,
Adam Curry: really, I missed all of this outrage. Oh no, every
Moe Factz: conservative platform had her. What's the two guys?
The brothers
Adam Curry: the hedge
Moe Factz: Yeah, those guys,
Adam Curry: hedgewood. What are they called? I forget what?
Hodgepodge, Hodge, Hodge twins. Hodge twins,
Moe Factz: yeah, all it was just like, oh, let's get her own.
Let's get her own. Oh, you said the N word, you know, that kind
of thing, like past that. What do you and this is what I'm
talking about, art. Even podcasting is art. We got to
make this clear right now, podcasting is just like hip hop,
in the sense of everybody can rap, but not everybody can rap.
If you get what I'm saying, everybody can podcast, but
everybody can't Podcast. I'm sorry, yes, gotta kind of have
something to say, and it doesn't matter what you say. That's
going
Adam Curry: to be my new bumper sticker. Podcasting is just like
hip hop. Yes, yes. Finally, recognition,
Moe Factz: because it's a microphone and a person and you
have to express yourself. Now we have beats, clips, you know,
saying our other you know, backdrops to, you know, the to
keep the motion going, but you have to have something to say
other than just making word drama. It's this. It's the same
thing. So you got, we got to be careful of who we give,
Adam Curry: who we platform.
Moe Factz: I wouldn't say that because, like, that gets kind of
communist. You're saying. What I'm saying is you got to have a
standard of what you consume, like, everybody should have a
platform where you should where your taste should be, like, do
you just eat anything, you know, like that kind of I'm not saying
you can't make chitlins. I understand. Why would you eat
shit?
Adam Curry: Yes, I follow. I follow.
Unknown: There's better options out here, folks, there are
better options.
Adam Curry: That was perfect. You put me right in the mood for
the next donation segment I needed that was little, little
palette cleanser. Yes, let's just make this light for a
moment. Oh, I gotta go find the TRad wife. Now, I can't believe
that she was on everybody's podcast too. That that, that
just shows you what was the term. Again, culture the culture
war economy. Culture war economy. Let me just hear it
again.
Unknown: It appears like she's gonna be speed run in the
circuit. I mean, she was just on Infowars. She just made a video
about everything being gay. And ultimately, this ends up being
an example of the culture war economy that we see online.
Adam Curry: It's that is a great descriptor the culture war
economy. Yeah, it works. Which people make a blank off it
before
Moe Factz: we thank people for they appreciate what we do. We
avoided that. Yes, we don't talk about hot stories when they're
hot, we wait. We wait till they fully develop the one, the
biggest one was George Floyd. We waited until that thing played
all the way. It out? Yeah, the Vert was final, then we talked
about it. So it's like, I said it's better options out here.
Yeah, so the
Adam Curry: and not participating in the culture war
economy is definitely a vow of poverty, but that's podcasting
this hip hop. We're the true hippopers with no record, no
record deal
Moe Factz: that was not broke. I like brand new money. I
Unknown: just I don't want any money around me is not I'd
almost rather have a new one than a brand than an old 20.
That's kind of dumb and but there's something about new
money that excites you. You like $100 bills? Oh, yeah,
I like money too.
Oh, most beautiful thing on earth is $100 bill? I haven't
seen a woman as good looking as $100 bill. There's something
$100 bill that excites you. Well,
Adam Curry: we already did our $100 bills. Now it's under 50,
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Moe Factz: I want to say something before we continue on
that it's those little dings on your phone that say, okay,
somebody still cares out there. It's not the money, you're
saying. It's not the amount. And if people know me in Eclass,
you're saying, Can I attest to this? I never did anything for
the money in my life. And I don't mean like we got to work
to live, but I never made a decision in my life based off of
what, what was, you know, finance up front. You know, all
this is the best, the best thing. No, no, I have to really
want to do something to do it. And this, you'd be surprised.
Like that one little, oh, that $5 message here to keep you
going, you're saying when you're up late at night listening to
clips and listen to source material, you know, just to say
somebody still cares out there and finds value. That's the real
magic of value. For value is knowing somebody cares out there
what you're doing. So I just want to say that you know, is,
you know, saying it keeps you going, it
Adam Curry: does, that's it certainly does. And of course,
we never did this for the money. We did it. We liked each other.
We wanted to explore something that is has not really been well
explored in in media, certainly not in American media. You know,
there were, there were fakers who came along Obama and they
tried to do it, Bruce, take that bomber. They didn't even come
close to scratching the surface of what we done here. For me, it
is most important that people find this in the future, for
your kids, for your grandkids, that something is around and
that at some point in the future, people can say, hey,
this is how these guys saw it at this point in time.
Moe Factz: And hopefully it helps you to seek first to
understand, that's right, that's, that's, that's the real
goal, and that's the real magic of us coming together, because
we both came into this seeking, first, to understand, right and
and we had some levity, some comedy there. But I want to let
people know that the conditions of the N word never stopped.
There's this misconception that after slavery, after Jim Crow,
after civil rights, the condition stopped. Well, sad to
say it didn't. And I'm gonna these next 10, Eclipse is kind
of like black pillage, but no pun intended. But I just want
to, like, I want to express why this word holds the weight that
it does, because the condition still exists. This is Noam
Chomsky, and he explains the hidden history of America.
Unknown: You told me you taught in school that claim slavery
ended in the Civil War. It did for about 10 years. By 1877
there was a compact made by north and south that the South
could do what it felt like, essentially. So they reinstated
slavery, but they reinstituted in a much more brutal form. What
they did is criminalize black life. So if a black man is
standing on a street corner, he can be arrested for vagrancy
and. If he looks at a white woman, he could be arrested for
attempted rape, you know, or something. And it didn't matter
if you're, you know, you were in for a $10 fee. You'd never get
out because he couldn't pay the corrupt judge, and you couldn't
pay the lawyer. He didn't have any money anyway. So it was
essentially permanent servitude.
Moe Factz: And a good example of this is, if you ever seen seen
the show held on wheels, you ever seen that show, I don't
think so about when they're building a train across America?
No, no, no, yes. You know, great show. Great show, the context
they have the race relationships of the Irish and and and the
freedmen, and they even have a Swede on there. And some of the
you know this, everybody, it's very in the Native Americans.
It's amazing how they capture it. And one of the components of
it is these, basically prisoners that were traded, you know,
their their labor was traded
Adam Curry: to help build a railroad. Still the same today,
Moe Factz: yeah. Well, that's one of the things that Kamala
slash Kamala is accused of, is holding people
Adam Curry: longer for longer,
Moe Factz: for cheap. Yeah. So, yeah. So let's get into the
second part of Chomsky.
Unknown: These criminalized blacks were then handed over to
industry, and that's a large part of American industrial
development, this big southern industrialization based on
Mines, you know, steel, us, steel and so on. A lot of just
based agriculture, of course, that went back right back to the
cotton fields, and this is a large part of American
industrial economic history that's based and it was worse
than slavery for exactly the reasons that the slave owners
had always argued. When we own these guys, we take care of
them. When we just pick them up from the jails, we don't give a
damn about them if they die at starvation. Final, got more from
the jails. So you had a period worse than slavery. It went up
to the Second World War. Was not small. Big impact on American
industrial history. Big Impact
Moe Factz: Second World War. So that was night in 1940s but sad
to say, in the 2020s this thing still exists in Alabama. Well,
Unknown: a lot of people are calling it modern slavery. Does
that feel
just about to say, That's slavery, that's slavery. You
took away the Wilkes, but you put the paperwork, took away the
Masters, and you gave put them in uniform. Same difference,
Same difference.
It kind of appears that there is a coordinated system in order to
protect the labor that's created by the prison system.
Walk into a McDonald's in Alabama and the worker flipping
your McDouble could be an incarcerated person.
Here's a sad situation a way, they getting rich off of
the Alabama Department of Corrections farms out
incarcerated people to work at hundreds of private companies
and government agencies across the state. McDonald's,
Burger King, Golden Corral, Wendy's, they got a Wendy's
contract right now, state troopers office.
They'll send everybody everywhere. They'll send you
everywhere. Yes, the parole office, and
even though Adoc trusts these incarcerated people to leave
prison every day and work alongside the general public,
many of them are still denied the chance at real freedom.
Adam Curry: Yeah, wasn't that the Corrections Corporation of
America, the CCA? I think I'm not the short track. I think so.
But
Moe Factz: that's, that's you're safe enough to go work in
Wendy's, but you, you're not safe enough to get paroled or
let go. And I know some people like, Well, they did the crime.
You did do the time. These are non violent offenders. Most of
them like, uh, well, I'll let go. Let go into 30 you want to
say anything before we don't know anything. But what I'm
saying, this is McDonald's, Wendy's. I mean, like the same
thing is going on. These conditions still exist. So we,
when you say this word, this, this is what gives it the weight
of the magic. You know the spell, because all all these
feelings are conjured back up. If it was in the past, it would
be in the past, you know, that kind of thing. But it's not, but
it's, but it's not, you know, at all. It's kind of, I'm gonna
give you an example. It might be a poor example, but it's the
closest one. I think of is it's a difference if you cheated on
your wife in high school, or if you cheated on your wife in high
school. You had a baby out of it, you see the difference?
Like, if it wasn't no baby out of it, it's like she might kind
of got past it, but no, you know, saying it's still evidence
that exists that hasn't been addressed. You know, there isn't
water under the dam. You know, it's still here. It's not went
anywhere. So this is what gives the magic word the power.
Hopefully, that was a good analogy.
Unknown: I got it all right, 34
but Adoc offers people in prison with non violent misdemeanor
convictions a potentially life saving deal. If they join the
work release program, they get to live in special facilities
that are generally much less dangerous than regular prisons.
They spend their days working in the free world without prison
supervision, and they can earn 72 hour passes to visit their
families at home. If you
go out here and you do the right thing, you get to elevate. You
get to grow, you get out of this facility. But you know what you
didn't tell me is that you even get all my money. That's what
they didn't tell you.
The State takes a 40% cut of every incarcerated workers,
wages off the top, before taxes, plus an additional $5 a day for
Van rides to and from work, $15 a month for laundry and then any
restitution and court fees.
If your check is 636, you might see two, something two,
something out of that, and that's a two, that's every two
weeks, and you didn't work eight hours and only seen $200
Adam Curry: Yeah. I'm glad that we had this clip, because it
triggered me the work release program. I remember when this
was put in place. Do you
Unknown: Yes? Obama,
Moe Factz: yeah. I mean, it don't matter. It matters, but it
doesn't matter what color the person is putting it in. It's
who do they serve, right? It was saying, like, Obama is the
biggest you're saying one of the biggest supporters of the system
of white supremacy. That's what scares me about Kamala. You were
saying, like, if she gets in there, oh boy, you were saying
like they really got some cover going a woman, a colored woman,
you know, what kind of damage she could do. They have
coverage,
Adam Curry: and we haven't actually discussed this. I i
watched the debate last night. You watched the debate. I never
underestimate Trump's ability to communicate to the American
people. When I say the American people, that's not you and I yet
we're I would call us the media class, the the true American
people are really hurting, and they see it. They see what's
going on. I think he communicated, first of all,
debates never matter. They never have. It's, you know, trust the
science on that one. They really don't matter. The only matter
for in certain cases of people who didn't matter in the first
place, like the Dean scream and other things like that. It gives
a it gives the media a thing to hold on to. In this case, there
was nothing new. Everybody's already heard these accusations.
I think Trump's consistent hammering on the border on crime
and even eating the dogs. I think that resonated. And I
don't know if he'll, I don't know if he'll win the election
based upon the Electoral College, but I think he
definitely will win the popular vote. I think it was, it was
very uncomfortable to watch, and all the things that we all felt
like, oh man, how come you didn't How come you got
triggered by this, this? Yeah, but the message, which was
consistent throughout the entire, you know, more than an
hour and a half, I think it resonates with the people who
will come out to vote. I do not think, I do not think we'll see
Kamala Harris as president.
Moe Factz: Here's my two takeaways. First, I find it
amazing that Ms 13, all these gangs taking over apartment,
these are all narratives, true or not true? Who knows we
talking about media narratives here, but it's Haitians eating
the dogs and cats is one. Get everybody worked up? You know,
it might honestly we've had children be human trafficked,
taken, you know, I'm saying, uh, kidnap. Deleted. Need all this
stuff, but it's the Haitians eating ducks. That's
Adam Curry: correct. No, that. That is America. That's America,
but that's
Moe Factz: what I'm saying. What are the Haitians? Hello. They'll
say just like at the border, I ain't seen nobody else get
chased down on horseback, except people that kind of look like
me. I'm just, I'm being, I'm being completely honest here.
Why is it always the darker the immigrant, the worse the
immigrant, not the crime they're doing. No, you thought you
follow them. Yes, I
Adam Curry: hadn't considered it from that angle. But yes, of
course. But, but
Moe Factz: on the other hand, what I'm most afraid of is I'm
right about the orange people about to be people of color. I
think it doesn't matter what happens in this election. I told
my wife. I said they're gonna take it and they're gonna say,
if you want it, come take it. You came up here last time on
January 6. Do it again, but we're in power now. See orange.
People have not seen the system really turn up. And this is what
scared like, seriously, I mean, like, this is, this is what I
find concerning, because if they did what they did out of power,
and they control the media. Do you really think they just gonna
give it up? Did you see how they lied last night on all those
flat checks? And I'm telling you like, this is what I'm saying.
Like orange people. I told when I we started this show, I said
it starts with it. I said that from the very beginning, it
starts with us. I'm afraid y'all about to be declassified to full
colored people. It doesn't I hope, I pray I'm you don't know
how wrong I want to be, but I truly hope I'm wrong. But these
people got an agenda, and Trump is bad for their business. Of
the system they want you're saying they they trade it in
their white coat sheets for white coats. Well,
Adam Curry: if that's what we deserve, then that's what we'll
have to go through. No, I'm
Moe Factz: just telling you, that's the gaslighting, you
know, the get the level of gas likeness going on the level of
every she hit, every meme, as far as the fine people on both
sides. I mean, like they haven't been like, they haven't been
this
Adam Curry: debunked, yes, but yes. But meanwhile, a ground
game has taken place to do the utmost to protect the the
integrity of the elections, and I, I have faith in this, because
if not now, then maybe never. And again, I think the trap is
to think that something was lost with a debate. It just, it
doesn't matter.
Moe Factz: No, no, no, no, no. This, this was, this was my
thought, pre debate. This is my thought, all the way from the
beginning of everything. What you say, we say that enough.
What do you say? It in Dutch, what they, what they what you
are, what I say, I or I am, what you say,
Adam Curry: what you say, being yourself. Meet your corporate
health, yeah. What
Moe Factz: do they always say? Trump gets into power. He's not
going to relinquish it, if that holds true. But you say, I'm not
saying I'll pray to the God above I'm wrong, but you just
said one word that white supremacy don't have is
integrity,
Adam Curry: exactly.
Moe Factz: So I'm just telling you. So I'm just, I'm just, when
I'm saying this, from the standpoint of for people's
mental health, are and I say this to all the producers, all
my friends, everybody out there, are you prepared if it doesn't
go the way you expect it to go because this is how black people
have to live. If I can't, if I don't do any, if I throw this
microphone away after this tonight or today, hear me out.
This is how we have to live like I know what's right, but I know
how it can go. And are you mentally prepared? Are you and I
can say, I hope everything goes well and he wins, or even if he
don't win, everything's on the up and up, whatever it is. But
like I said, Are you mentally prepared for what may happen?
Because these people. Are ridiculous, agreed,
Adam Curry: and I'm more concerned about Trump winning.
What, what we're going to get on the streets. We have to be
prepared for winning too, right?
Moe Factz: Which I would say four years. If he wins, they
say, We kick the can down the road. You know, he can justify
Adam Curry: he'll be four very, very turbulent years.
Moe Factz: Yeah, I'm just saying, but like the Democrat, I
mean, this is the calculus they're weighing right now.
You're saying not to belabor the point, but they're saying, Do we
and what's this is what? Let me give you the background from my
my explanation of why I'm so concerned. They're looking at
the Supreme Court. This is what it's all about, is the Supreme
Court, because if they win, Clarence is probably he can't
keep holding on. You might can get two justices out there bring
some kind of balance back to the courts. This, this is, this is
their logic. This. I mean, this is me doing the war gaming for
them. But if Trump wins, Clarence is gone, the other
conservative justice is gone, and they get some young, fresh
faces in there that will hold the court for a mighty long
time. Yeah, you're right. That's what I'm saying. Like they're
desperate. That's the word their their desperation scares me.
Well,
Adam Curry: here comes another Dutch saying, and cotton is now
mark that are out of sproma, which means, translation,
please. When you drive a cat into the corner, it can make
very strange jumps. Okay,
Moe Factz: and that's, who's the cat? Is it? That's, that's my
question. Like, who is the cat in this situation?
Adam Curry: The Democrats, yeah, the crazy, crazy Democrat party,
right?
Moe Factz: So I'm just telling you, I'm just, like I said, I
don't want to scare people. I don't want to black peel people.
I'm saying this for a mental health standpoint. Well, if it
doesn't go, you're and then I'm telling you, this is this is
this is my existence, honestly. And like I said, it sounds don't
know you've
Adam Curry: said this from the beginning. You have said this
from the beginning. The big takeaways of 100 episodes is it
starts with us. We're just we're just first, and orange is a
color. So these things have always stuck in my mind and but
I also look at America as a federation of states. I look at
individual communities. You live in a community, I live in a
community that's where we can make a difference and and or
not. And this is America, not the first time. This is not our
first rodeo with nonsense like this. Yeah.
Moe Factz: And like I said, I'm not talking about totalitarian,
kicking indoors. But like you said, communities like, there
was the quote, unquote black community, you know, saying that
was, like the safe space for black people, that kind of
thing. They're gonna be orange communities, you know, where you
can you'll have the school board, you'll have the mayor,
you'll have city council and that kind of thing. Um, so no,
I'm like, I'm not.
Adam Curry: I live in an orange community,
Moe Factz: right? I live in an orange community. Yes, I said I
had to go where the guns are. What you mean?
Adam Curry: That's right, we give each other guns for
birthday presents around here, I had
Moe Factz: to come where the guns is in you like, for real,
for real. You're saying, GBG all day, but I'm just saying, like
we and I just found a song to say, because I mean it, mentally
prepare yourself for the worst and pray for the best. Because
that's what if it happens, you're already ready, yeah, and
you don't have to get ready. And I think that's what happened in
the aftermath of 2020 a lot of people weren't ready. Weren't
ready, you know, and like to think they won't do it again.
That's the we're doing it right now. You were saying like,
hello, 2031 3233 34 we're at where we're at right now. Oh,
you think they won't lock black people up and use them as labor?
Hello, we got Wendy's. We got McDonald's. That's right, we're
still doing it. You know, that's so, yeah, yeah, you were saying
they, they don't stop. They're relentless, and it's because
they they truly have something wrong in their brain and in
their hearts and in their souls.
Adam Curry: Seriously, it's, it's spiritual warfare. Mo, it's
actually very old. It's a very old story, and once you realize
that, then. You can see it and like, Okay, I see what's going
on here. Well,
Moe Factz: since we did that, let's just go ahead and jump to
37 and in honest, see, I always try to go deeper into figuring
out, why do people how can you see first? How do they think
like this? And it took me back to Nietzsche. Nietzsche, how you
want to say I've heard three different more pronunciations
than Kamala. People say it Yes, but it's like the genealogy of
morality, the master and the slave. 37 explains these
people's mindset.
Unknown: So what about the Master's internal psychology?
Well, the Masters, they're Yes, Sayers, right? Their first act
of evaluation is to say, I'm awesome, I'm beautiful, I'm
strong, I'm rich. This is awesome. And what this surplus
of confidence provides for the master is that the master
becomes somewhat indifferent, a cool nonchalance to the external
world. He embraces danger. He's not easily offended at all. And
even when he commits atrocities, he walks away cheerful, I quote
you Nietzsche masters step back into the innocence of the beast
of prey conscience as jubilant monsters who perhaps walk away
from a hideous succession of murder, arson, rape, torture
with such high spirits and equanimity that it seems as if
they have only played a student prank, convinced that for years
to come, the poets will again have something to sing And
praise the picture that Nietzsche paints of the master
is of this joyful brute, and he is a brute, okay? So he's very
stupid, partially because he's never had to use his intellect.
But what's positive here is his naivete, okay, the fact that he
doesn't overthink things. Yeah,
Adam Curry: exactly, exactly, don't, they don't overthink
things.
Moe Factz: Beautiful brew, yeah, just go around the world is
kicking stuff over, just taking stuff, kicking stuff over, and
just causing mayhem on our on our dime and our name. See,
that's what we had to really get. You know you're doing this
under our name. Yeah. I mean, like, and this is at the when
the rubber meets the road. This is their mentality that they
don't have. They don't have, like, this Dave Chappelle Show
that says, The guy says I, he told the cop, said I didn't, I
didn't know I couldn't do that. And then the cop walks away
saying I did know I couldn't do that, that could like, yeah, you
know, you know it's wrong, but they don't care. They don't
care, but I don't give a hope to even their salvation for them, I
don't,
Unknown: we can't, yeah,
Moe Factz: let's continue with the master.
Unknown: So the best way to think about Nietzsche's Master
is your high school jock. Okay? He's a physical specimen. He's
on top of the social pecking order. He loves danger, extreme
sports, drunk driving, body checking people in hockey. He
bullies people, not because he's mad, but for him, it's fun to
shove someone into a locker and you can call all manner of
obscenities to his face, partially because he's so smug
and confident, partially because he's too stupid to realize what
you're actually saying. That might sound a very negative
ideal for us, partially because we have been influenced by
Christian morality, but it's the naive self assurance, okay, it's
the willingness to indulge in one's simple desires. It's the
natural independence. That's the first reason that makes this
masterly mode of evaluation preferable to the slave. The
second reason that slave morality is despicable for
Nietzsche is that they promote bad values. And Nietzsche wants
to ask, How can you not promote bad values? You've simply taken
what the Master's like and you've flipped it. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I've never read Nietzsche, to be honest about
it,
Moe Factz: I've gotten into it for two reasons. There's this
whole stoic thing going on in the manosphere. Yeah. Definitely
a trend.
Adam Curry: Yeah.
Moe Factz: So in it, you get a lot of the, you know, the
talking points and and when I did the show on the Overman or
the Uber mention, and I think it's how you pronounce it. Um,
that's how I got into them. And so when you go down this hall
with your algorithm, it starts feeding you more and more
psychology and stuff like that. And what I don't want to do
this, I know I've got. You jumping around. But I want to
what that slave is, and really what the N word is. It goes to
Carl Jung and young. I heard, once again, these names, Young.
I'm just saying, but young Carl Jung, yeah, no, people are gonna
hit. No. It's this, you know, I'm saying like, they're gonna,
like, three people gonna give me three different pronunciations
afterwards, but I think we need to go to 43 and then come back
to the slave mentality. All right, because what the slave
is, and this is me and and, okay, so this this master, and
the slave is answer person, personal relation between two
people, yeah, or between two groups. Carl Young is answer
person, like the intrapersonal or inside yourself. He talks
about the shadow once again, this is, this is the algorithm
feeding me stoic talking points, um, but what he says is that
your shadow is everything you repress. So if you look at the
master, everything he represses is the weakness and morality and
all these things, right? He pushes those things down, then
he projects it onto the slave, onto the slave. That's why Black
people are in words, because we're everything that white
supremacy don't want to be. They project it on us. Are you
following me? No, I'm
Adam Curry: following you. Mo and
Moe Factz: then what they do is use mass media to put to project
this on the world stage and say, look at them. What is a gangster
rapper? A gangster rapper is nothing but a warlord. You know,
there's no difference between Dick Cheney and a rapper. No,
when you really get down to it, you're saying, we're gonna go,
we're gonna go slide, we're gonna go slide on the rack, you
know, kicking they door, you know. Like, seriously, yeah, and
this is, this is, you know, so this is where I got to I was
like, Okay, so the shadow is being projected onto the slave.
The slave has to do it. The slave don't have no option. So
let's get into the projection. And that's 43 just
Unknown: because there are people who are unconscious of
their own dark sides, and they project that darkness outward
into, say, Jews or communists or whatever the enemy may be, and
say, there is the darkness, it is not in me. And therefore,
because the darkness is not in me, I am justified in
annihilating this enemy, whether it be with atom bombs or gas
chambers or what, but to the degree that a person becomes
conscious that the evil is as much in himself as in the other,
to this same degree he is not like to project it on to some
scapegoat and commit them as criminal acts of violence on
other people. Now this is, to me, the primary thing that Jung
saw, that in order to admit and really accept and understand the
evil in oneself. One had to be able to do it without being an
enemy to it. As he put it, you had to accept your own dark
side.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, that's the human experience. Yes. And
America is a media country, and so we do this all day long to
each other all the time.
Moe Factz: And I noticed this in movies as I got older. Rocky
Ford, the Russians was the bad guy, yep, right. And then it
went from the Russians, and then it went to the you started
seeing the Arabs as the bad guy, yeah,
Adam Curry: the sheik, the chic, yeah,
Moe Factz: you know. And then it went from them, and then, you
know, then you had the cartel members, and, you know, that
kind of they were the bad guy for a little while. Now we're
back to the Russians. They're constantly project their shadow
on and I'm not saying these are good people, but I'm just saying
that the projection, they're really projecting their shadow
off onto whoever they consider their enemy. And this is why,
when it shocks people that black people think a certain way,
because, like, Well, we thought You thought this way, it's like,
no. This is what the media wants you to think it's like, you
know, and that's why airtime, something trending, it's like,
that's normal, but not for what, how they project and use their
main, their mass media, or if you want to say how they cast
spells, you know, um, to to. Manipulate people to think a
certain way. The trauma based entertainment they've always
painted. That's why I said about OJ, they painted. OJ, well, they
didn't paint OJ. OJ appeared in that image of what they painted
all the years of this black brute that finally did it. Yeah.
That's why it was triggering people, whether he did it or
not. I'm telling you, that's how it appeared. That's why I'm
saying I completely agree. That's what I'm saying about
that's why Haitians eating your duck is more scary than Latin
people kidnapping your kids or your cat. You know, like they
paint, we're at the bottom. And when we say we're at the bottom,
we're at the bottom of every stereotype, because it's a color
based system. Now they might mess around and put orange down
there. Who knows? You know, saying, but more orange? I'm
gonna tell you why Orange is the problem, because Orange has
resources. Yeah, that's the problem. They have a whole lot
more resources than any other color person there is. So that's
why, you know, that's why they see you, you, you, and I hope I
mean not to say you, but I'm talking about the orange people
out there. That's why they you're seen as the biggest
threat, because you actually have resources. Yeah, you're
colored with resources, right? Which, that's a, that's a,
that's a recipe for disaster. Can't have that, yeah, can't
have that at all. So now we gotta go back back to 39
hopefully I explained that. Well, the master, his shadow was
projected onto the slave, and the slave becomes everything
that the master represses. Don't take my word for I did this all
in chat. GPT, yeah, no, serious.
Unknown: Don't laugh.
Adam Curry: I know you did. I know as
Moe Factz: far as, like, what is the common thread? Like, this is
what this tool is great for. Like, what is the common thread
you're saying? Like, what that kind of thing when
Adam Curry: it comes to language chat, GPT is useful? Yes, all
right. 39 Nietzsche
Unknown: argued that there are two explanations for how
morality develops. Part of the story is biopsychological, in
terms of what morality resonates with what psychological type of
person. One is the other part of the story is cultural, because
different moral codes develop under different survival
circumstances. And so Nietzsche searches history for the
survival circumstances that necessitated the development of
slave morality in the West, Nietzsche finds the slave
morality's roots in the Judeo Christian tradition in a
decisive set of events that occurred early in Jewish
history, the enslavement of the Jews in Egypt. The significant
result of the Jews being enslaved for a long time was the
development and internalization of a moral code suitable for
surviving slavery.
Adam Curry: Oh, I never thought of Nietzsche in that context. In
what context? Yeah, of the the slavery of the Jews. Yeah.
Moe Factz: So basically, he thinks that religion is created
to explain why you're inferior. Makes a coping mechanism. They
say it like that, like I'm gonna I'm moral. That's why I'm this
way. Not I'm moral because I have to be moral because I
because I can't take on the Master.
Adam Curry: Yeah, this is where Nietzsche loses me. But I
understand where he's coming from. What
Moe Factz: I'm not saying, like, I said, I'm not taking him at
anything other than the mind state of the people that's in
power. We have to get inside their head, you know, like your
God and my god, don't exist in them. I mean, like, seriously,
no, like, we're ruled by, you know what? We're gonna have to
answer later on. We're gonna have to answer to a higher
power. You know, that's why we're more, not only the real,
not the only reason, but you're saying it's more, it's win, win,
to be moral if you don't have that ruling you. And it's like
everything on Earth, is it? It was saying like this, this is
the game. That's a very that's a very scary mindset to deal with,
honestly to say, this is it so I can do whatever I want to here,
because there's no nothing to answer to afterwards. Are you
still there? Yeah,
Adam Curry: I was thinking, I don't have anything. I have no
comment on it. It's I'm trying, I'm desperately trying, to look
at it from your perspective and
Moe Factz: and. What? It's not. It's not my perspective. Yeah,
it is. It
Adam Curry: is it is. You have a lot more experience with
thinking this way.
Moe Factz: All I'm saying is this is seek, first to
understand. I'll put myself in their shoes and say, You know
what? If I could go do all this bad stuff, and there's no really
one can stop me, and there's no higher power to answer to. Why
wouldn't I do it? Right?
Adam Curry: But I guess where I'm coming from is there is a
higher power to answer to, yeah, and, and that's what I pray for.
That's what I pray for, the higher power steps in. No,
Moe Factz: no, I agree. Me, like I said, Me and you are more
aligned in thinking. But that's we can't allow that to be a
blind spot for us to think that they don't think like that. Oh
yeah, they don't. They have nobody in the attitude in their
mind, like, Hey, you were saying it, let it, let it roll, you
know. And it's, that's what I say, is, I don't know. I don't
know. That's a scary that's a scary thought. But let's go and
get into part two. Suppose
Unknown: that you are a slave. How do you survive? And if you
have children who are born into slavery, what survival
strategies will you teach them? In order to survive, a slave
must obey the master. This does not come naturally. So the first
lesson is, you must stifle your nature. Suppose the master
strikes you the desire for revenge comes naturally, but you
have to stifle it. Suppose the master tells you to wait. Being
inactive does not come naturally, but you must suppress
your desire for activity. Suppose the master tells you to
do something you do not want to do, you must override your
desire to do what you want and obey generalizing. You must
train yourself to restrain your natural impulses and to
internalize a humble, patient, obedient self. You know you must
do this because slaves who do not end up dead.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's it's interesting in the context of
the Haitians, because Haiti is pretty much the only enslaved
population in history who successfully revolted against
their masters,
Moe Factz: which was in French. And could that be the reason why
they're demonized? I because you think about all over,
everybody's coming across the border, are people of color?
Adam Curry: No, I know. I know. I mean, you know, well, yeah, is
Moe Factz: that mentality? Is it that mentality that we, I'm not
to take color out of it? Well, take, like, okay, but
pigmentation.
Adam Curry: Five minutes ago, it was Chinese men of fighting age.
You know, I think this, this was just a purposely launched trend.
By the way, there's sufficient evidence that it's actually
happening, but okay, you know, doesn't it doesn't really
matter. It was an effective trigger. And notice that Trump
didn't say Haitians, yeah, he just says they, they're eating
the your the dogs. So it, and the whole story behind it is
much deeper, of course,
but I don't think it's that that has that there's a particular
reason for it that being Haitians,
Moe Factz: but to me, the El Salvadorians taking over. No
part. We just talk about narratives. You were saying,
like, because all these are just, they're all narratives.
They're pieces, they're they're fact toys rolled up into, you
know, saying, into narratives, there's some, there's some
there, there to you the turret, you're saying, There's something
basis to it. But they're, they're, they're rolling it up
into something bigger, and El Salvadorians taking over whole
apartment complexes is way more concerning to me than Haitians
eating ducks and cats. I'm just saying, like on the on the scale
of what concerns me. But, but why did? Why is it that is that
we love cats and ducks like, what it what is it? Not? I'm not
expecting to answer. I'm just saying, but why did that take
hold? Oh, there's like I said, I don't want you to put you in a
spot to answer. I'm just that
Adam Curry: question. Well, I can, I think I can explain it,
because pets are the new children. Children. That is
undeniable, that, you know, we have over a quarter billion pets
in America. It's probably even more. And you know, your doctor,
your fur baby, this, this has been a narrative that's been
building for a long time. People are not having children. They
are taking pets, and pets are seen as their children. So it, I
think it's very effective.
Moe Factz: I can see that, you
Adam Curry: know, so it's to you and I maybe not the same. But I
think in the American psyche, in in the last 1520, years, it
really has become incredibly important, you know, above
children,
Moe Factz: obviously, because I'll give you, yeah, I'll give
you that. It's plus, plus eating your pet is foreign. That's
foreign in nature. You say, hi, yeah, yeah, horse or heating a
cat if I mean,
Adam Curry: look at look at it this way. Castrating your kids
doesn't have the same effect for some reason. So this is what I
say, is I never underestimate Trump's ability to speak right
into the psyche of the American public, the true American
public, right?
Moe Factz: So, all right, let's go and get into 41
Unknown: Nietzsche argues, I'm sorry,
Adam Curry: 41 here we go. This naturally
Unknown: leads them to resent the master strongly, but they
also start to hate themselves for doing what the master says,
and for their own role in suppressing themselves
psychologically, hating oneself causes unbearable pressure
inside because the outward discharge of the instinct gets
inhibited and turned backward against man himself, hostility,
cruelty, joy and destruction. All this turned against the
possessors of such instincts. That is the origin of the bad
conscience, hatred of the strong, self hatred and revenge
fantasies to ease the pain become the lived psychological
reality of such slaves. Make this psychological reality a
matter of months and years, and the results will be ugly and
poisonous. More provocatively, Nietzsche argues that such slave
individuals who feel the internal war most strongly
become the social leaders of the slaves. That is to say, they
become their priests. It is because of their impotence that
in them, Hatred Grows to monstrous proportions.
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. Well,
Moe Factz: we see that's the Boulet right there. That's
right, that's the Boulet, you know, saying, like they they
hate their condition, so they become the priest amongst the
slaves. But they're not really gonna change anything, you know.
They just send you on a bunch of dummy missions. But I can, we
can skip 42 because that's just nearly full of confirming what,
what was said in the previous clip of why Black people are
full of poison. Now, do you not when I keep saying you now, does
everyone understand why there's black on black crime? You can't
take on the master. So what do you do? You brutalize and
victimize each other. Export that across the world. You take
that to Africa, you take that to Asia, you take that everywhere
in the world. You have colored people harming other color
people, that's right because they have no other recourse. And
I want to say I'm gonna make what's
Adam Curry: where I want an inflammatory statement, no,
Moe Factz: I think I understand why this thought process is
foreign to you. And a lot of the listeners, you have a concept of
the Calvary, right? The Calvary is going to come, you know,
there's, always a Calvary, you know, even if they get us, you
know that the Calvary will come, we'll take the day, that kind
Adam Curry: of thing. I think American
Moe Factz: concept, you're saying hard, backed in by cowboy
movies and no, that kind of thing. Man. Okay, we just gotta
hold on, fair enough. No, because I'm saying, I mean, I,
as an American, is, I adopt some of the same thoughts, you know,
like, if something happened to me, you know, hopefully American
goat mayor, come get me. You know, we have that kind of thing
Adam Curry: that I don't think. I think that I'm, personally,
I'm more like, I'm the Calvary, I know. My neighbors. I know
what we can do together. That's what I'm
Moe Factz: saying. But some Calvary has come. You know, they
Adam Curry: get, not the government, not looking for the
sheriff, not looking for the cops.
Moe Factz: We don't, we don't have a concept of Calvary.
Adam Curry: No, I see, of course, I understand you
Moe Factz: don't say, like, it hits the fan, there's no no. And
this is that's that slave master relationship of his, like, you
kind of got to go along to get along, because there's, there's
no and the weird thing about it, I said it again, I gotta stop
it. But the fascinating thing, that's the word I was looking
for, is that 13% of the population of the world, versus
87% of the world is colored versus white. But the colored
people have don't have the mentality of a cavalry.
Yep, that's high power mind control, my friend, which I'm
saying, what I'm saying, it shouldn't be a need for that.
I'm just saying, like, that's a spell that's cast throughout the
world that, like, no matter what, and you and, let me say
this, they have the muscle to back it up. Oh, let's, let's be
clear that they have the muscle to back it up. And that's why
they play this brinksmanship game with the world. Like, Are
you effing around to find out? You know, you know, that kind of
thing. So I'm just saying I'm trying to seek, first, to
understand, and that's why I just thought about it Calvary,
like, you know, like right at that moment in cowboy movies
when all hope is lost. Well, you hear the horn blowing. Well,
that's
Adam Curry: exactly it. This is, that's your mind control, right
there. Yeah,
Moe Factz: the movies, of course. But I'm just saying we
don't have I don't, and now I would love to hear people chime
in on this, but as a black person, I never thought about
the Calvary of a black Calvary coming to save you, right? So
I'm just, I'm just I'm just trying to get, like I said,
practices seek first, to understand in real time.
Because, yeah, so we're gonna wrap this up with next set of
clips, because this sounds very black pillish, but no, what I
was doing was diagnosing the problem. Right? Whenever you,
whenever you have a problem, you have to get diagnosed
Adam Curry: on the problem. You've done that very well to a
depressing point, I might add, no, well,
Moe Factz: it's not because, like, if you, if they figure out
what's wrong, you know, like, it's kind of like when you go to
doll I don't feel well, and they run a battery or test and
nothing's coming back. All hope is lost. That's worse, right? I
don't even know what I'm fighting here. My thing here is
like, Okay, we ran the battery of test. Okay, we're dealing
with Masters. Okay. Now, how do you deal with Masters? You know?
Like, how do you deal with this mentality? Okay, so first we had
to figure out and this is gonna be left field. I don't know if
you ever heard this or not. Let me just set it up. Minister
Farrakhan and Scientology. Have you heard about that before?
Adam Curry: Well, I know about the Church of Scientology. I
know about I've read Dianetics, actually,
Moe Factz: yeah. Well, so it's Farrakhan, and he found a lot of
value in it, to the point that he was supporting it and and
suggesting it to the noi, but Something
Unknown: in the teaching of Dianetics of Mr. L Ron Hubbard,
that I saw could bring up from the depth of our subconscious
mind, things that we would prefer to lie dormant but the
auditing process brings it up, and it's like bringing up demons
out of us, and just as this book Bible says,
that was the work of Jesus.
How can you say you love Jesus the Christ when he was an
exerciser of demons out of the people
Adam Curry: I never heard that clip before.
Moe Factz: I. Not supporting Scientology. I'm not even
supporting what Farrakhan was saying there. My point is this,
we have to do a self audit on ourselves. That's my suggestion
to people, because 90% of your problems is internal.
Adam Curry: I would say 100%
Moe Factz: like you have some out, outside influences, but 90%
of your problems are internal, whether how you spend your
money, how you spend your time, how you spend your resources,
where you were you allowed to enter your psyche? I mean, it
was a bunch of questions like, Why don't you watch a movie if
you're going to talk about it. When we talk about trauma based
entertainment, I don't need that poison in my mind. I don't I
don't need you. Just said it yourself. It's like the movies
is the problem, you know? It's we're constantly being bombarded
with, uh, all kind of propaganda and mind control. So we have to
do an audit of our lives and say, How am I spending my time?
How am I spending my resources? You're on this and rightfully
so, of this kick of, what are we putting in our bodies? Yep, what
are we eating? You know, like a lot of times like we we give it
up to, uh, to the masters. They gotta take it
Adam Curry: completely in that regard, the world, but certainly
America is completely enslaved to the food masters totally
Moe Factz: and they got slaves working, really. That's true.
That's a 360 USA 360 racket here. Just to illustrate my
point further. Do you actually look inward I'm talking to like
I said, this is, this is the final white pill that Mo's gonna
give you. You're saying in this iteration to whatever I'm doing.
I never left people on a negative because I understand
you're saying, how that can you know? And that's why I stress
this is not a black pill. What we were going through is a
battery of tests to figure out, what is the concern, what is the
problem? And the problem is, we're dealing with a master
slave system, and it's, are you being a willing slave? And when
I'm asking these questions, I'm asking them to myself, how are
you supporting the system? Mo, how are you being compliant to
the system? Go
Adam Curry: ahead. Have you come up with an answer to that, yeah,
Moe Factz: you have to change how you spend your money, how
you spend your time, how you spend your vote, how you spend
your energy. You know, are you focused on the things that
matter? Prioritization, putting first things for all these seven
habits, all we want, Seven Habits heavy, but that's why I
believe in that set of habits, when you start putting first
things first, and think win, win, and seek first to
understand and be understood,
Adam Curry: things change for you, right?
Moe Factz: But all that is in your power. It's not, it's not
external powers. You don't need any external stimulus or any
external compliance to make this happen. And then what nearly say
is, everything I'm doing, is it constructive or non
constructive? It's only two boxes. Is this behavior or this
thought, constructive or non constructive? And you put it in
the right box that thought it doesn't help me, that worry it
doesn't help me, not constructive and not spending
time on that you asked me when I and this is constant auditing.
You understand, it's not like I sit down with a notepad and
like, let me audit for today. You know, it's like, it's real
time. Well, for a
Adam Curry: lot of people, reading their Bible every single
day is literally an audit of yourself,
Moe Factz: right? Correct? Because what it does, it re
centers you. I totally agree with that. And I don't know if I
said this on the show or not, but I read Proverbs every day,
31 books. I mean, 31 chapters in Proverbs, right? So if you start
on the first of the month and just cycle through every month,
oh, yeah, that's a good one. Came to find out my grandfather
had been doing that for years when I told him. But I'm just
telling it like, because that's, that's a recentering, uh, and
it's based, it's wisdom based knowledge. Um, here is, yeah, so
I'm just saying that kind of thing, um, those kind of
forming, those kind of habits. So that's, that's what I
believe. And then we're going to get to Dr Bruce Lipton here on
how to reprogram your mind. And I know people like, man, you
come in with all. It's what they call a new age, a new age, no,
no, no, because if you're a believer, all of this is in the
Bible, as far as what it say, renew your renew your mind.
Yeah. What is that scripture? But anyway, like I said, it's,
it's this constant reflection, you know, reflecting on your
every word. You know what? It's about, idle words and idle
thoughts and these kind of things. This ain't New Age. Now
it is you're saying, but it's not exclusive to New Age, and
it's not exclusive to the Bible. That's why I'm always careful on
what I bring up and out, because I don't want to feel anybody
feel like a captive audience to a Christian exclusive
conversation. Hopefully whatever I talk about is is value.
Adam Curry: Romans 12 do not conform to the pattern of this
world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.
Moe Factz: That's it, right there. I
Adam Curry: thought that's what you meant. I had to look at it
though,
Moe Factz: yeah, be transformed by the renewing of your mind. It
don't get no more new age than that. For all the people that I
knew it, I knew most of you were saying like, no, no, no, you go.
Put that on me, but this is Dr Bruce Lipton, and he gets into
the subconscious. And then how you reprogram your mind every
Unknown: human, and it's a fact, every human first seven years,
is download, a hypnosis. The brain of a child under seven is
in a lower vibrational frequency. When you put wires on
a person's head, you read electroencephalograph, reading
brain activity. A child below seven has a lower vibration than
consciousness. It's called theta. Theta is imagination.
Theta is also hypnosis. And the idea is this, before you can
become conscious, if you don't have any programs, what are you
going to be conscious of? So nature makes the first seven
years. What kind of programs are required to live on this planet?
I say, how do you get them? Theta is hypnosis. You just
watch your watch your parents, your watch your siblings and
your community, because you have to learn how many 100,000 rules.
Think about it. Just to be a functional member of a family
and a functional member of a community, there are rules.
Teach an infant these rules. You don't have to first seven years,
I just observe it and just download it, and then I say, why
is it relevant? Because this is the unfortunate fact 95% of our
life comes from those programs in the subconscious.
Adam Curry: I don't know who Dr Bruce Lipton is, but he's
describing Dianetics right there.
Moe Factz: Okay,
Adam Curry: theta, all of that stuff that's all from the their
machine. You know, I have one of those machines. Actually,
Moe Factz: I didn't know this was all related. You see, like
I'm going following the threads here. I did not know what
Farrakhan was talking about. It was related to this. I'm
following the threads. And the reason why I'm bringing this up
is nobody teach you. Teaches you how to be an N word. That's
right, nobody sits you down. It's like, Hey, this is how
you're going to be black or N word, right? No, it's you
witness interactions at a young child. And maybe this is why I'm
weird in the definition how nearly uses it, because I grew
up in a pretty much constructive household. So that's why I seen
stranger in my own world. Because my mom, you know, she
she's very she was very open to different ways of thinking. Even
though she's Christian based, she was always looking for
other, just other improvements. You're saying, like, she was on
colonics in the 80s and that kind of stuff. Like, yeah, she
was especially for a black woman. You said, like, that was
out there, yeah, the aloe vera and all that. And then, like,
said, my dad, he was strong in his masculinity. So that's an
awkward combination in the first place, yeah, so I'm just saying
so. But if you grow up in the traditional, media driven,
trauma based environment, you're naturally going to learn to be a
victim. This is how this my virus is, which I call a mile
with malware is human. Malware is what it is. It's not how.
That's why I don't believe in scientific racism. We're
naturally born, biologically inferior. All this is learned
behavior, and it's learned so early on in this first seven
years I believe, or sooner or later, who knows you're saying,
but it's learn. Like I said, I don't get into specifics, the
analogy
Adam Curry: of a computer operating system. We've talked
about it several times throughout this episode that.
Holds true. And of course, you know, everything is a is a
fractal of of everything else. So computer systems are, in
fact, a fractal of the human, human mind. And so, yes, malware
is a very is a very appropriate analogy.
Moe Factz: And it specifically had, I gave it a specific term.
Me and grunt have been working on this I came up with on one of
his lives. Late night, it was like me and he was just riffing.
And for lack of better word, it's the nigger mindset. There
it is, all it is, all it is, you know, and I'll use that in the
artistic in a specific term, because it's the actual
scientific terminology, and what it is, is, it's the complete
opposite of the seven habits. Is being reactive. It's putting
first things last, you know, say, like, and when you go down
the list, and me, him went down, it was like, this is this? Is
it? This is what is expected of us, you know, we in the first
thing last. We're expecting the practice the touchdown dance
before we learn how to run the touchdown. You probably like we
were expected. You know, no synergy. We want to be
understood first, then to be understood. I mean, we're about
to be understood first, then understand other people. And it
goes down the list. I'm seeing, like, I'm
Adam Curry: writing, those who want to be could be first, will
be last. Those who want to who will be last will become first,
Moe Factz: exactly. So this is the malware, you know, and I'm
noticing that it's spreading. It's spreading like like
wildfire, and that's what put me on. On the Orange is the new
color person, because I'm seeing behaviors that's typically
targeted towards my group being deployed, widespread. Yeah,
deployed. So, but there's once again, there's hope, because in
46 here's the hope and
Unknown: the Jesuits. For 400 years, they were boasts, and
people didn't understand. They say, give me a child until it's
seven, and I will show you the man. They've been saying that
for 400 years because they knew seven years was the program
period. The conscious mind is creative and can learn in any
number of ways. Read a self help book, go to a lecture, listen to
this, and conscious mind is going to get some awareness. And
I go, Yeah, but subconscious mind doesn't learn that way.
Subconscious mind learns in two fundamental ways, naturally,
hypnosis, which is the first seven years. And after age
seven, how do you put new programs in repetition practice?
I like the last one because there's a new phrase that's
bandied about called Fake it till you make it, meaning, if
you're not a happy person. I say, you want to be a happy
person. Then repeat all the time. I'm happy. I'm happy. I
say, Well, you don't look happy or anything. No, who am I
talking to by repetition? I'm talking to subconscious. If
subconscious gets I am happy, and 95% of your life comes from
that subconscious, there will be a point once the subconscious
got I am happy, you don't have to say it again. It'll be
automatic.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's, that's computer programming, 101,
Moe Factz: but also that's faith based, because you pray and then
you believe as it already has happened. That's the fake it
till you make it, you say like it's already
Adam Curry: happened. That's the same thing that Anthony Robbins
does in his in his power talks the exact that's what the secret
is. It's all parts of the same thing.
Moe Factz: And what it really is is having control over your
thoughts. And what brought it home for me is really, when it
started, I got named Dion at my former job. He had a small
booklet on his arm. And I was like, What you reading? Dion? He
was like, The Strangest Secret by Earl Nightingale. And he was
like, he said, I'll send you a link. And he sent me the link.
And I felt this before the seven habits, and he sent me the link,
and I challenged myself. It's the repetition to listen to it
for 30 days straight. I challenged myself, and it like I
said, it worked. It worked. It's not because of what they're
saying. It's because it's shifting your mind. And it
starts with 47 I'd
Unknown: like to tell you about the strangest secret in the
world. Not long ago, Albert Schweitzer, the great doctor and
Nobel Prize winner, was being interviewed in London, and a
reporter asked him, Doctor, what's wrong with men today? The
great doctor was silent a moment, and then he said, Men
simply don't think and it's about this that I want to talk
with you. We live today in a golden age. This is an era that
man has looked forward, dreamed of and worked toward for 1000s
of years. But since it's here, we pretty well take it for
granted. We in America are particularly fortunate to live
in the richest land that ever existed on. The face of the
earth, a land of abundant opportunity for everyone. But do
you know what happens? Let's take 100 men who start even at
the age of 25 Do you have any idea what will happen to those
men by the time they're 65 but by the time they're 65 one will
be rich, four will be financially independent, five
will still be working. 54 will be broke. Now think a moment out
of the 100 only five make the grade.
Moe Factz: Okay? That's because they don't think no, and that
sounds silly, right? You would even for myself, but you realize
I was surprised. And everything I'm saying today is I've tried
it, it's been successful. I'm less confused, you know, say
because I'm not sitting there touting myself. Is outside of
the mindset, because it's constant. It's like a fire hose,
you know? It's constant bombardment. But what happened
is, I realized how little I was actually thinking. Most of the
time, you're being reactive. Things happen in the day, and
you just react to and you go to work, you're at, the emails
you're at, it is, you know, you come home, you're at you're just
constantly putting out fires all the time, and you never have a
chance to prevent fires. This is what uh Kobe talks about,
sharpening the saw. You have to learn how to start preventing
fires. Am I? Am I making like
Adam Curry: hopefully, I think you're making a lot of sense,
because
Moe Factz: what I'm telling people all in a nutshell, you
have the power. How much brain are you using every day? How
much are you really thinking well,
Adam Curry: clearly what's going on is five to eight hours a day,
people are scrolling. You're scrolling. You're not doing
what. You're not thinking right?
Moe Factz: And you're not even focused on your problem saying
like you're in escapism.
Adam Curry: That's exactly right. There it is in a
nutshell. That's it, right there. Stop doing that and spend
that time thinking.
Moe Factz: And what is that escapism? That escapism is my
control. So you're, you're making the problem worse. You
know that you pour gas on the fire just by let me give let me
get some more programming. Let me get some more programming.
And that's that's what I'm saying. We live in the best of
times and the worst of times. It's so much free information
out here. Everything I play today, it cost me anything to go
listen to it and find it. Are you training your algorithm the
right way? Think about it. Adam, when we buy a phone, right? It
doesn't feed us a bunch of negative stuff. When you take it
out the
Adam Curry: box, does it? No, it makes me feel good. It smells
nice. You have to train it.
Moe Factz: It's like, Oh, you want them negative people, huh?
Let me, let me give you some of this trauma. Let me give you
some of this mind control. Yeah, you seen this video? Let me give
you five more like it. Yeah. Where, if you look at, like I
said, all this stuff, the stoicism and all this other
stuff, was fed algorithm. When I start looking for a start
feeding so the algorithm is not the problem, no,
Adam Curry: it's it, it's, it's even better than that, because
the the out, you know, people talk about like Tiktok. All the
Chinese are doing this or that. No, do it to yourself. The
algorithm is pretty dumb. Actually. All it does is give
you more of what you just saw. And if you do another one, then
it doubles. And you do another one, then it's exponential. And
that's how people go down. That's how they go into the to
the death trap. And it's everyone falls into it. From
time to time, I usually fall into it with the, uh, airplane
crash videos, which, which all to me, is educational, but you
know, then, before you know it, I'm looking at influencers
getting arrested by police.
Moe Factz: And that's the slippery slope of, but you
Adam Curry: just, but I'm aware of it, and I also, I have a
really stupid phone that doesn't work very well. Helps. It helps.
Moe Factz: That's all I'm saying, is think, start there.
Just start there and think, realize what you're consuming.
All right, let's go into 40. I want to wrap this up because I
don't want to build don't want to belabor people too long.
Unknown: Now, it stands to reason that a person who's
thinking about a concrete and worthwhile goal is going to
reach it, because that's what he's thinking about, and we
become what we think about. Conversely, the man who has no
goal, who doesn't know where he's going, and whose thoughts
must therefore be thoughts of can. Confusion and anxiety and
fear and worry becomes what he thinks about. His life becomes
one of frustration, fear, anxiety and worry, and if he
thinks about nothing, he becomes nothing. Now, how does it work?
Why do we become what we think about? Well, I'll tell you how
it works, as far as we know. Now to do this, I want to tell you
about a situation that parallels the human mind. Suppose a farmer
has some land, and it's good, fertile land. Now the land gives
the farmer a choice. He may plant in that land whatever he
chooses. The land doesn't care. It's up to the farmer to make
the decision. Now, remember, we're comparing the human mind
with the land, because the mind, like the land, doesn't care what
you plant in it, it will return what you plant, but it doesn't
care what you plant, you reap, what you sow.
Mm, hmm,
Adam Curry: that's it. It's it's as good as the Bible. The
Strangest Secret,
Moe Factz: and here's the scary part for parents out there, if,
whatever, if you're planning anxiety in your field, your your
children in that theta stage, whatever age it goes to, I'm
not, I'm not hard setting these numbers at age seven or
whatever, your children are around you, and You're consuming
and you're letting off that energy is going right into their
little brains and in their little hearts and their little
souls. And do you wonder why these children need all of these
medications and all this anxiety?
Adam Curry: Anxiety the number one thing the Bible helps you
get rid of. I don't want to sound preachy here, but it's all
over that book. It's all over it. And if you don't want to
Moe Factz: put the Bible into your life, at least take the
devil out your life, you don't say, start there. Amen, yeah,
exactly, start there. You know, like, don't, don't let that
negative energy breathe like us a word back in during covid
slough you're sloughing. You're sloughing negativity all over
your children, yeah, and anxiety. And I say this because
I love you. I love everybody, and I love everything you're
saying, even the people that you know saying that want to see me
do harm. I love I love everybody, because it's easier
that way. To be honest, it's less taxing to love everybody.
Hey, it's hard, lot of work, a lot of energy. Y'all got time
for that? Let's go ahead and get into 49
Unknown: stop thinking about what it is you fear each time a
fearful or negative thought comes into your consciousness,
replace it with a mental picture of your positive and worthwhile
goal. There will come times when you feel like giving up. It's
easier for a human being to think negatively than
positively. That's why only 5% is successful, you must begin
now to place yourself in that group for 30 days. You must take
control of your mind. It will think only about what you permit
it to think each day for this 30 day test, do more than you have
to do. In addition to maintaining a cheerful, positive
outlook, give of yourself more than you've ever done before. Do
this knowing that your returns in life must be in direct
proportion to what you give the moment you decide on a goal to
work toward, you're immediately a successful person. You're then
in that rare and successful category of people who know
where they're going. Out of every 100 people, you belong to
the top five they
Adam Curry: you know, this is there you go. This is our next
series. Will be a self help series with Adam and Mo, how to
be successful in 30 days.
Unknown: Hey, look,
Moe Factz: don't threaten me with a good time. Seriously,
like that. It's so much, it's so much negativity out here in
everything is just like, negative, negative, negative,
negative, negative, yeah,
Adam Curry: this is, if I can just say this is the secret
behind no agenda. We went through covid, and we were just
laughing the whole time. We would like, I mean, it was dire,
it was bad, right? But we were just laughing about it, like,
just make just if you, if you, that's the best way, that's the
best way to change your own behavior, to change your
insight, your thinking makes you feel good, particularly if you
can laugh. It's always better just
Moe Factz: health wise laughing, it's just an act of laughing.
You know,
Unknown: proven, proven, proven to help.
Moe Factz: And that's what we've done here with such a heavy
topic of race. Who. Who would think this episode would end
like how it began? Oh, I
Adam Curry: knew it would, because I know you. I know your
format. I know I know what you do. You always take us down to
the darkest depths, and then you pull us right back up. You
Moe Factz: have to, because, like, look, it's the darkest
before dawn. You're saying, like, that's that's a real
phenomenon. It's gonna get dark. But my thing is, if you can
learn how to love those people that want to harm you, they have
no power over you. That's what. That's what turning the other
cheek was about. Like I said, not to be cast this audience.
Mo,
Adam Curry: you're being a black Jesus right now. No,
Moe Factz: don't put that on me. I You say Remove this cup for
me. No, but I'm being like, this is how you have to interact,
because don't be a negative Nancy. And I'm telling you, this
stuff works. Try to listen to the strangest secret for 30
days. Just make a habit of it, hearing something positive, if
nothing else, to hear something positive. It worked for me. And
the reason why it worked for me is it changed how I saw things.
Because when you're in corporate America and your kids are
getting older and you're looking like is this it? Is it coming to
this cubicle? Uh, is this it? And then you start thinking,
like, no, I got this other talent and honestly, to be and I
never told you this. Adam, Oh, before I met you, and before I
even got into commentating, I was headed back into music, you
know, because I'm like, God gave me this gift, I need to really
take it seriously. You know, that kind of thing, not make,
like not performing music, but like more producing that kind of
thing, but then doing that, and not habit, and doing those
habits and doing that. And then, like, I saw you, heard a guy
said, Are you a talker? Are you a doer? And that rang a bell,
and then I called into a show and another show, and then that
gave me the confidence to reach out to you. And then here I am.
So your path is not gonna be set. It's the willingness to get
up and walk every day or run every day is, is, is what you
control. Now, where's the one takes you?
Adam Curry: In fact, being open to seeing another path and going
down that path is what's always been successful for me speak on
it. I mean, this my whole life. I mean, it took me until I was
50 to realize what I'd been doing, but I going through all
these different paths, and I'm like, Oh, I'm a broadcaster. Oh,
that's what I am. And I didn't really you know, already been
doing no agenda for seven years, right? And all these other
things are paths I needed to take to come to the realization
of what my true calling is, and and it can be, it's can be all
kinds of different things, but I so. I am, I am a doer in
talking. Let's put it that way.
Moe Factz: Yeah, I mean, because that's your your thought about
it. You think about it. Because when we do what we do, a lot of
thought goes into it.
Adam Curry: But I mean, I, I started several companies. I
took a company public on NASDAQ, what would what I find myself
doing, talking all day, talking like I'm talking to investors,
I'm talking to clients now, at a certain point I'm like, I'm
talking crap. I gotta stop that. So I left my own companies like,
I can't, I can't. I love talking, but I can't speak lies
or half truths to sell something, which I think is why
I can identify it so well. So yeah, and I, I hope you get back
into music.
Moe Factz: Well, I can say they became a hobby more than
anything now, because this became my first priority.
Because, like you said, this is I didn't know what this show was
gonna be. We ain't know the show is, like, let's just,
Adam Curry: I still don't know what it is. Yeah, I don't
Moe Factz: either. Y'all tell us. You said right here to tell
us what it is, you know, because it's just I go something far. I
find interesting something. I start to think about it. I start
to investigate it. I start to put stuff together, collect
things, find common threads. And this how you have 100 episodes
of this, which I'm about to wrap up now with. You wouldn't
believe Reverend Ike. Are you familiar with Reverend Ike, sir,
I
Adam Curry: am not familiar with the good reverend.
Moe Factz: Well, Reverend Ike, he was a pastor. He got cues of
like taking money from his from his congregation. But here's the
thing, as my good friend, brother Theo say, eat the meat
and leave the bones. And if some if somebody has one thing valid
or valuable to add to conversation, hear em out,
because that might be their one purpose in life. And what. He
talks about, he confirms what Dr Bruce talk about, the
subconscious mind, and in the next clip, he's going to talk
about the power of positive thinking.
Unknown: The subconscious mind can also be likened unto a
computer, and the computer people have a wonderful slogan
that they use in their business. They say, garbage in, garbage
out. And many times people wonder. They ask me, Reverend
Ike, how is it that these things are happening to me? Why? What
have you put into your mental computer? What have you put into
your subconscious mind? So I want to instruct you on telling
your mind what to think. Now, please listen to this. Your
individual presence of mind should be operated by you and
given strict orders by you, but these orders, as I indicated
before, should be given lovingly and joyfully. If you do not tell
your mind what to think the world will keep your mind
confused.
Yeah.
Amen, Reverend Ike
Moe Factz: directed thinking like, control your mind. That's
all I'm gonna add to that. Just control your mind, and you'll be
surprised how little you actually do it, yeah,
Adam Curry: and if you control it, and if you, if you exercise
it, it's amazing things will happen.
Moe Factz: Just being, just being focused on how being in
control of it is a game changer in itself, believe me, because
the past, the thoughts we have, the implanted thoughts we have,
the big one is the plant implant. Is it thought? Your
thought wasn't implanted in your mind from a from a second
source? What was that phrase?
Adam Curry: Again, from the earlier clip, the culture,
something economy. What was that?
Moe Factz: Culture? War Economy,
Adam Curry: because that's what a lot of people are trapped in,
the culture war economy. They're trapped on
Moe Factz: both sides, yeah,
Adam Curry: all sides, well,
Moe Factz: you beat me too. All sides find their flavor or their
flavor. Your flavor finds you,
Adam Curry: yeah, culture war economy, that's exactly what
we're in. That's, that's what, that's it. Culture, war,
economy. I love that phrase,
Moe Factz: all right. So here it is. Here comes just the the last
and final clip of the 100 episode 51 I'm
Unknown: talking about how to use your mind power to get what
you want now, and I want to talk about the idea now for a moment.
Let me hear everybody say now. Let's be even more emphatic by
saying right now. Now, most of you know that I am not a pie in
the sky preacher. All of you who want pie in the sky, by and by,
when you die, you're in the wrong church. This afternoon,
I'm a now preacher. This is a now message, which I bring to
you. And why am I a now preacher? Because now is the
only time there is yesterday is gone and tomorrow never comes.
Moe Factz: Who was that? That's Reverend Ike.
Adam Curry: Reverend Ike again, wow. You know, he reminds me a
bit of Tony Evans. You know, Reverend Tony Evans, yes, who
also, by the way, recently just resigned under some issues which
have not been defined. He does. He does a lot of sermons just
like that, just like that.
Moe Factz: But Reverend, he had a huge church, and like I said,
some of the things, eat the meat, leave the bones. But the
point and last, final point I want to make is, and this is
prevalent amongst black people, that heaven has our answers.
We're going to struggle on Earth, and then, you know, we'll
get our fair share of No, that's
Adam Curry: not the message of Jesus.
Moe Factz: No, no, I want mine today. You were saying because
he said I asked not and he shouldn't answer, right? So I'm
knocking today. I want mine today. And that's the mindset we
gotta have, that we want a better life, a better world. We
want a place where nobody's mistreated, everybody can get
what they need today.
Adam Curry: It can be done once we start loving each other.
Moe Factz: Well, I love you, Adam, I really do
Adam Curry: smoke mo I love you, brother, I really do and I am
grateful, grateful that we have been. Allowed to do this that we
have been put together to do this, and I, for one very much
look forward to the next thing that he has in store for us.
Moe Factz: Well, my antennas are up and I'm listening, uh, to
what, what is the next move? Um, but antenna then, as I always
say, pay attention to everything, and the truth will
reveal itself.
Adam Curry: And going out with style with Mr. James Brown, Mo,
thank you very much, my brother. Thank you Adam, and thank you
for listening to mo facts with Adam curry for 100 episodes.
Unknown: You know, we're dealing with a very critical and crucial
time, most crucial and critical time that I've ever witnessed,
being as young as I am. You know, we all don't want to say
nothing else, so we say as young as we are. Now, I want to talk
about the pronunciation and the realization. Now the educators,
they call it
ESP positive thinking, right?
Some of the people on the cut, on the cross side of the pond
call it vibes, vibrations, astrology and all those
different things understand. But I call what is, what is, but it
is, what is lookin
now you see
a brother, you taking the ghetto, you find a whole lot of
crime. I can understand. Hey, I know what it means. Me nine
years old before I got my bus there on the way out of the
store, you know, putting on a half a half breasts from the
pawn shop with tennis shoes,
trying to be hip. So I know where it coming from. Like your
fellow say, having catfish head stew, and then, like the catfish
went in there with his head and come out very quick, and then
leave nothing else. That's one thing that educators and the
politicians and the savage man gotta remember. My brothers need
jobs.
You don't you can't eat.
You don't wait, you can't eat. Get help cook yourself. Good
dog. Mom
did it from the street.
You can't eat, Sis,
you don't wait. No, you can't eat, so you got to have mind
power to deal with starvation, and that's what we're dealing
with. You see, we can't go back to the biblical stories, two
loaves of bread or two little fishes. Five loaves of bread,
two little fishes. Yeah, five loaves of bread.
Now, look here. Too many brothers to go by that. I want
your brother's big where we coming from? Set your mind right
here. Dig the JBE experience. I dug this from a young man out of
New York.
You said the GbE. The GbE, now we want to take To the JB, the
JB Experience.
Head on mine, mine, mind,
what is what it is, what is what it is. It is, what is it
is, what is it is what it is,
that's what it is. That's
ah, give me some flute. You.
You know,
dealing with Harlem, South Side of Chicago, the Bay Area. What?
Five point bottom, mid bottom in Atlanta, giant Street in
Augusta, West broad in Savannah, U Street in Washington,
going over to Baltimore,
South Street in the village, Boston. I know
somebody need to help us. Give us just
give us a chance. Somebody gotta get yourself together,
unified. We need information.
Pass on that. Rhino information. Yay.
Musa. Musa.