Adam Curry: Mofax for August 12, 2019 This is episode number
three. It's mofax with Adam curry. How you doing? Mo, I'm
Moe Factz: doing great. How you doing Adam?
Adam Curry: I'm doing good, man. It's weeks just seem to fly by.
Moe Factz: I know I look forward to Monday every Monday of every
week,
Adam Curry: the first Monday of every week, like the second
Thursday, something like that. Yeah, right. I have a couple of
up. First of all, apologies about the the iTunes for the
show being available on iTunes, I submitted it the RSS feed. And
really weird, somehow the account is so old I haven't
updated a podcast since, I think since no agenda started 11 years
ago, and so somehow it was linked to a Dutch version of my
Apple account. They got really confused, so I have to resubmit
that. It should be searchable in the in the iTunes directory
sometime this week. So that's on me. Also,
Moe Factz: you can find the RSV RSS feed@mofax.com Yes, we it's
been added to the web page, so go check that out as well.
Adam Curry: Definitely. And I got some good responses on the
last show. How about you?
Moe Factz: I got good responses, and then I also got some I was
being a little hard on the female, so I hope to bring some
balance to the show on this episode. Yo, what
Adam Curry: did you do? What did you do wrong?
Moe Factz: Um, I just told what told the truth, but I think they
saw it as one sided. But I just wanted to dedicate the majority
of the show are just focusing on how they're, um, how they're
doing, uh, identity politics. And with that, you have to focus
on the groups that are
Adam Curry: being targeted. Yes, yes, yes, yes, indeed. This was
the whole conversation about how political parties are trying to
split black American men and women correct and really almost
pit them against each other. What the feedback I got is a lot
of people who had no idea about the man, about the house rules,
the 68 welfare. A lot of people were very they said, Wow, that
was eye opening. They liked that a lot, right?
Moe Factz: And I just think that was just just a knee jerk
reaction, thinking now it was going to be one sided, but that
was just the first show that we went into identity politics. So
yeah, on this show, we hope to bring a little balance, all
right, to show how the The elite are targeting the black
community on both sides of the gender argument, and using the
Boulet both male and female. Okay,
Adam Curry: well, I'm ready. Let's get the journey started.
Moe Factz: All right, so I just to finish off where we were
headed last week, just showing on the with Kamala Harris. And I
like to say, first of all, me and Kamala Harris have a will
always be tied at the hip of each other, because she kind of
got me into this whole podcasting, slash speaking out.
Because, as you know, I started out on the Star Report with star
on his YouTube channel. Everybody should go check that
out. And one of the first call in shows was the whole Jussie
Smollett, um, case, ah, which
Adam Curry: was, which was had ties to a lot of Chicago elite,
but also to Kamala Harris, exactly.
Moe Factz: So that's how I got started, because I've actually a
month ahead of time, I pointed out her connection with the
whole alleged collect, let me say that alleged connection with
the whole anti lynching bill that was time, understand, time
just so perfect with his actions, which Cory Booker was
also a part of Right, correct. So, and what struck me with that
was, with her tweet, it came out so fast. Usually, politicians
are very measured when they put their support or, you know, put
their support behind people. But immediately those two came out
and said, This looks like a modern day lynching. So in
hindsight, we know that that was a poorly timed tweet, and I
would like to the first clip going into NBC panel MOX Kamala
Harris for that tweet. All
Unknown: right, new amid new revelations in the case
involving the alleged attack on Empire actor Jesse Smollett.
Democratic presidential candidates appear to be backing
away from their initial statements on january 29 Senator
Kamala Harris called the alleged attack on Smollett an attempted
modern day lynching. Here's what she said about that tweet
yesterday.
Which tweet? What tweet about saying that it is a modern day
lynching that. Like, sorry.
Okay, so I will say this about that case. I think that the
facts are still unfolding.
Adam Curry: By the way, I just got to stop this. When any
politician says I'll say this about that, they're stalling for
time, like, I got to put the story together. Great, sorry.
Jesse Smolin,
Unknown: okay, so I will say this about that case. I think
that the facts are still unfolding, and I'm very
concerned about obviously,
can we just say it? Because that's what we used to do on
this show, okay, can we just say it? We were just one day.
I don't know if I want what we
know. I just talked about first instincts. Okay, she looked like
she actually didn't know about the tweet and no, and like she
was looking around at a staff member going, What the did? Why
tweet that? I'm not making any excuses for whatsoever. It's the
box, okay. Can
Moe Factz: we stop? Right there? Can
Adam Curry: we stop? Sure, sure.
Moe Factz: He says we're not making any excuses for but makes
the excuse that she didn't see in the tweet. Oh, yeah.
Adam Curry: Well, what he's saying is it looks like a
staffer did the tweet, right?
Moe Factz: Um, and that's why I chose this as the intro clip
into this whole segment of the show that we're going to talk
about how the media has been handling Kamala with kid gloves
and protecting her. The title of this actual clip on YouTube is
MSNBC panel MOX Kamala. But as you continue to listen, they
defend Kamala by saying, oh, you know, some staffer did it, but
you can continue with the clip now, you
Unknown: tweet that up. I'm not not making any excuses for
whatsoever. It's the buck stops with her. Yeah,
I'm not gonna say tell going through her look at
somebody and you and she did, Mike, it looked like she didn't
even know that. Tweet
me, yeah, I
got to say, though you're correct,
as well as you can do with a humming, a hum
in a moment, the turn to get more time
as a former Senate staffer. I would really throw the staff
under the bus here, because, you know, that's one of those
moments where the senator was asked the question, looks the
staff. It's like,
hey, really think these candidates are tweeting 24/7,
no, they have people tweeting for them. And let me just tell
you stop. Only tweet when you're tweeting. It's not going to
work. Otherwise, you have people tweeting for you. Oh, it is not
helpful, and something like that will happen. And she did tweet
that she is going to have to completely roll it back and take
ownership for it, because we don't know what happened, just
like with many other cases we are talking about in this
country, where there are allegations, that is what they
are, accusations. We don't know what happened. And this is a
problem. Everyone thinks mob rule is where we're going to go.
It's not going to work in the elections, not going to work for
Democrats.
Adam Curry: Just for background. The name of her bill, the bill
she had with Cory Booker was justice for victims of lynching
act, legislation that would criminalize lynching for the
first time in American history, the motion was passed in the
House. And that this article is from february 14, 2019, so that
was a pretty fresh bill. I don't think it had passed at the at
that at that time. No,
Moe Factz: it hadn't passed at the time. And I think this, this
just, I know we're going back a little ways, but with this
podcast, we haven't covered this issue, but it's very important,
um, with Jesse smully, for people that don't know he left
the the noose around his neck, yes, uh, as a symbol of
lynching. And she, I don't know if she knew about this or she
didn't know about this, but she took that opportunity to say,
look, see, this is a modern day lynching. In her tweet that now
the MSNBC has said that her staffers allegedly must have
written so it's like and like I said, going back, the title of
this video says they're mocking her, yeah, but it seems like
they're defending her. And the reason why I wanted to use this
as the jumping off point is like, as I said before we we've
seen the media protect her over and over again, and we even saw
this with the Tulsi Gabbard,
Unknown: yes,
Adam Curry: yes, the media immediately was happy to comply
with her messaging, which was, oh, yeah, well, you work for
Putin,
Moe Factz: right? So let's go get into Tulsi attacks. Okay,
so, so let's talk
Unknown: about the debates last night, because you had quite. In
a moment with Senator Kamala Harris calling out her record as
a prosecutor, I want to take a listen to what you said.
Senator Harris says she's proud of her record as a prosecutor
and that she'll be a prosecutor president, but I'm deeply
concerned about this record. There are too many examples to
cite, but she put over 1500 people in jail for marijuana
violations, and then laughed about it when she was asked if
she ever smoked marijuana. She blocked evidence. She blocked
evidence that would have freed an innocent man from death row
until the courts forced her to do so. She kept people in prison
beyond their sentences to use them as cheap labor for the
state of California, and she fought to keep tax bail system
in place that impacts poor people in the worst kind of way.
Congressman, did you get the answer that you were looking for
from
Senator Harris?
I got no answers. But more importantly, the American
people, voters, got no answers. Senator Harris said very clearly
on the debate stage last night that she's proud of her record,
yet she failed to answer these very pointed questions about
these parts of her record, where, when she was in a
position of power and responsibility, where she could
have been a champion for the people, instead, she was the
exact opposite. She was perpetuating the worst part of
our criminal justice system that disproportionately impacts our
Black and Brown Brothers and sisters, poor people in
California. And I'm concerned about the kind of leadership
that she'll bring to the White House, because she's built her
whole presidential campaign around being a champion for
minorities, being a champion for the people. But once again, when
you look at her record, and I'm not talking about a record from
30 years ago or 15 years ago. We're talking about her record
in the very last job she had just a couple of years ago, as
Attorney General in
Adam Curry: California. My understanding is we actually
can't look at her record as her record has been removed from the
California District Attorney website. Surprise,
Moe Factz: surprise. You wonder why? And to be honest with you,
if we were able to look at the record, it has just been poo
pooed as, uh, she's just doing her job. Yeah, she was just, she
was it's her job to lock up people, you understand, as, you
know, as the top copper California, uh, but you can't be
pro police reform and have the record that she does, and I
would like to bring attention to something else that she has in
her closet, of many skeletons, her first campaign she ran on
she used a fire of it could have been a black or brown person
looking at as A gang member with tattoos holding a pistol. So she
has been very pro police, which, I mean, that that's her choice.
I mean, I have no issue with that. If that's where you stand.
My issue with her is that she goes back and forth. She wants
to be tough on her record, but then say, Oh no, I wasn't really
tough on my record. So what we see here in this next clip of
the post debate fact check is we start to see even local news
spinning it to protect Kamala Harris. KPIX five
Unknown: political reporter Melissa Caen has a look at the
facts.
Senator Harris says she's proud of her record as a prosecutor
and that she'll be a prosecutor president, but I'm deeply
concerned about this record. Congresswoman
Tulsi Gabbard did not hold back at last night's debate taking
aim at Senator Kamala Harris's record as California's Attorney
General. But we wanted to know were gabbard's claims true. She
put
over 1500 people in jail for marijuana violations, and
laughed about it when she was asked if she ever smoked
marijuana.
Did Harris put 1500 people in jail for marijuana violations?
Well, as Attorney General, she would not have personally
prosecuted drug cases. That 1500 number was reported by the
Washington Free Beacon. They claim that based on numbers from
the Department of Corrections, at least 1560 people were sent
to state prisons for marijuana related offenses between 2011
and 2016 that's when Harris was the attorney general, and did
Harris laugh about her own marijuana use? Well, here's a
radio interview from February of this year. Have
you ever smoked?
I have and I inhale. I didn't. I did inhale.
Gabbard also seemed to refer to the case of death row inmate
Kevin Cooper. She blocked
evidence that would have freed an innocent man from death row
until the courts forced her to do so. It
is true that, as Attorney General, Harris refused to allow
advanced DNA testing that could free Cooper. He's on death row
for murdering a family in 1983 Governor Gavin Newsom ordered a
full DNA testing earlier this year, but we don't know the
results yet, so we can't say Cooper is an innocent man in
2018 now, Senator Harris changed her mind and did endure. First
the DNA testing. Now, Tulsi Gabbard also accused Kamala
Harris of fighting to keep California's cash bail system in
place, which is true, but since becoming a senator, Harris has
also introduced legislation to end the cash bail system.
Look forward to September's debate.
Fewer people on stage,
Adam Curry: more fun, wow. They basically gave no information.
That was good,
Moe Factz: exactly a whole bunch of talking, and it was no, yeah,
well, she didn't try the cases herself. I mean, I think
everybody knows she went standing up in the courtroom and
and try every one of those 1500 cases. Is that she over, oversaw
the system, right? That that locked these people up. But as
you see, even down, and that's why I want to use that clip. Was
even down to the local news. They're they're protecting her,
and I think this is coming from a high place that they really
want her to be the candidate.
Adam Curry: Now, how does, how does that work? With is Joe
Biden, then just there to as a placeholder? I mean, he
certainly seems like it, but is he just a placeholder?
Moe Factz: I believe. So I think, I think they think this
is just my personal opinion. I think they think that Joe will
gap himself out. Eventually he's going to drop the gap of all
gasps, and he'll remove himself. And he has, he has the same
track record with her as far as the criminal justice system is
concerned. Oh yeah, because he helped write the non the 94
crime bill,
Adam Curry: yes, the super predators bill, and there's a
lot of other stuff that, right?
Moe Factz: So he had the same negatives as her, and if they
can get it down to those two on the
Adam Curry: stage, yes, in the final elimination round, right?
Moe Factz: The problem is when you have people like Tulsi
coming in, lobbing, you know, these attacks that she lobbed at
her, these hit hard. So where I went ahead with this is one of
the big mistakes she made. Was laughing about smoking weed, and
where she did that was, was the Breakfast Club, and you brought
up Charlemagne TO GOD
Adam Curry: YES on the last episode, I
Moe Factz: think on episode one, yeah. And I started digging,
like, whenever you start this with me, this is something you
had to know about me. Whenever I start like something gets in my
brain, I have to get to the bottom of it. So you asked me
about Charlemagne to God, and he isn't. He is in a very powerful,
powerful position. And well, let's figure out why the
Breakfast Club is required. Stop for presidential candidates,
Unknown: the host admits they have an agenda, but they don't
always have the same agenda.
Do you feel like white candidates get treated
differently than black candidates in here?
Absolutely isn't in the Breakfast Club. Yeah, I can say
that.
How do you figure? I don't necessarily think so.
I can say that because I tell you straight up, I'm not looking
to elect any more white males, especially for President. You
know, I like somebody like mad people when it comes to those
old white guys, they're not even going to be here to see the
future. So why should they dictate policies on the future?
And I don't trust them. It's hard. I think that white male
entitlement and privilege has been a super detriment to this
country. So yes, when these old white males come in this in this
room, and you can see the entitlement on them and you can
see the privilege on them, yes, I do feel a different way about
that. And
I would likely say I feel more of a connection with women and
with people of color when they come up here, I'm looking
for somebody that's gonna run this country the right way. I
don't care if you old, I don't care if you're black, if you're
a woman, I just want you to run this country the right way.
Look. They've embraced the Breakfast Club. Democratic Party
has embraced Breakfast Club. Have they embraced the issues
that the Breakfast Club listeners have they
embraced black issues? I think that this is the first time
we've heard this many candidates talk about a Black Agenda,
because many candidates talk about reparations. I think for a
long time, they have been ignoring their most loyal fan
base, which is black people. And I think that a great question
that is being asked is, you know, why do we continue to vote
Democrat? You know, just because, wow,
Adam Curry: there's a lot that's loaded with stuff there. First
of all, as a an older, white male fuck you. All right, so I
got it, not wanted. I'm not as old
Moe Factz: as Joe. I think they answered your question about
Joe. Biden,
Adam Curry: yeah. Oh, that totally answers it. And I even
heard, look, I didn't even mind that the person's old, person of
color, a woman, anything but white. That excludes, excludes
Joe, because he's the combo is bad. But, yeah, I've only heard
Charlemagne talk about, you know, actually, only about
Kamala Harris, and then kind of, it's interesting that he says,
or if there's. His co host. Oh, yeah. Well, this is, you know,
the we need candidates are talking about Black Agenda.
Well, really, Kamala Harris isn't really talking about a
Black Agenda. She's not really talking about reparations.
Moe Factz: And I had a clip slip. And if anybody wants to
create a jingle for that, I had a clip slip because she was
interviewed by thegrio, and it's a very important clip. Now I'll
bring it or either link it somewhere, but she was asked,
are you gonna do anything specifically for black people?
And she said, No,
Adam Curry: wait, she was asked on the Breakfast Club
Moe Factz: no on the griot interviewed her post nomination,
announced her nomination, what she and what she was she was she
doing things specifically for black people? She said no, and I
got, I hate I don't have that clip. I'll
Adam Curry: take your word for it.
Moe Factz: What pisses me off is Charlamagne knows this. He
didn't ask her anything about reparations. He didn't ask her
anything about a Black Agenda, and then he lets her come on his
show and float this BS bio of hers.
Unknown: Now for those who may not know, let us know a little
about yourself. You're from the Bay Area, right?
I was born in Oakland, okay? And I went to Howard. I went out of
Howard to law school in California. I started my career
in the DAs office in Oakland, California, and then I was
elected, the first black woman to be elected a district
attorney in the state of California, San Francisco. I was
there for two terms, and then I was elected Attorney General of
California, making me the first woman and the first African
American ever elected as an attorney general. She Jamaican
too. Yeah, man.
Adam Curry: I gotta throw the Jamaican out there then, I
guess,
Moe Factz: right. And she used first black, first African
American, and for the untrained ear, all right, let me give you
some. This is where I come in with the inside baseball. The
way she shaped her bio on this show was so disingenuous,
because she said, I was born in Oakland. Oakland being
predominantly black, it has a lot of historical black
importance. You know, have the Black Panthers. That was sure,
Laura, I mean, huge in that community. And even he asked her
about being affiliate with the Black Panthers. It wasn't really
clippable, because it was a lot of over talking. But she was
like, Oh yeah, they inspired me. I'm like, whoa. Hold on. You're
the top cop and the Black Panthers
Adam Curry: well. But mo at this was also the interview where she
said, Oh yeah, no, I would smoke weed while listening to to
Tupac, who hadn't even, hadn't even released his album when she
was so apparently, smoking weed, right?
Moe Factz: And they even the whole breakfast club came out
with a an excuse, saying, Well, I asked her one question, and
she said yes to another question that Charlamagne was asking her
some, some BS. But back to the inside baseball, the way she
shaped this was, I was born in Oakland, then I went off to
Howard. Howard University, for those not knowing, is the HBCU.
It has a very
Adam Curry: historically black, black college university,
Moe Factz: yes, historically black college university. It has
a very rich history. But the way she shaped that is she lived in
this is what was, what would be heard when she said that I lived
in Oakland all my life. That's not true. I'm we know this, but
until the untrained ear, or if you if the way she framed it or
shaped it, I lived in Oakland all my life, until I went to
Howard, and then I came back to Oakland to fight for civil
rights. Yeah? Well, that's, it's, yeah, that's,
Adam Curry: I guess that's kind of true. All my life, I was just
living somewhere else for a while, wasn't it?
Moe Factz: She right, Adam, what is not true about that
statement? If I, as a black person, was to take that as she
stated it. What would be the problem with that statement?
Adam Curry: What with the I lived there all my life, but
then I came with that file? Yes, when she came out, where did you
come back from? Where you were all your life in Oakland, right?
Moe Factz: First of all, she didn't live in Oakland all her
life, as she tried to make it seem she lived in Canada for,
I'm saying, for a major chunk of her life. Yeah. Second of all,
she lived with her mother only, who was Indian, so she wasn't
bathed in the blackness. And honestly, I think the Howard was
a very, this is just me being cynical was a very. Calculated
move by her if she had political aspirations to say, you know, I
checked out, check this off of my black card, right? So that's,
that's where we're at with that so. But with Charlemagne, he has
not being, uh, he's been open, openly supportive of Kamala
Harris, and the fact that he would vote for her, as you see
in this next clip, if
Unknown: I had to vote for somebody right now today, it
would definitely be Kamala Harris. And the reason it would
be Kamala Harris is because I was liking Kamala before she
even announced, you know, she was running for president. She
was on breakfast club last year. And you know, I had been
following her for the past two or three years, and you know,
like, I just was intrigued by Kamala Harris for some reason.
Like, I know people question her record as a prosecutor, but it
was a lot of the things that she was doing in that space that I
thought was very progressive, like the Back on Track program,
and, you know, making her officers wear body cameras, like
stuff like that, had me engaged. Like, wow, who is this? Kamala
Harris. And, of course, she's a black woman, you know. So I was
definitely intrigued by that. That's just natural, like,
right? That could be my, my sister, that could be my, you
know, aunt that could be my, you know, one of your daughters, my
daughters. You know me, my friend. Like, of course, black
women. So it's like, I'm intrigued by that. I was, I was
like, Yo, she could be president. I always thought that
if you go back and watch our first interview, I told her,
like, Yo if you run, you know, we'll support you. Now I just
had to have some questions about her record as a prosecutor. But
she's a prosecutor. Prosecutors do, yeah,
Adam Curry: I'd have to say that when he says, you know, I'm as
much a black woman as Kamala Harris is, in the way, he's
funny, like, No,
Moe Factz: this is this slippery slope of what is black?
Blackness? Yes, right. And this is why the term ADOS has been so
powerful, because now you can't just use this blanket term of
black, you know, and cloak yourself in it. And he said a
lot in that statement. He said that I would, I would have
questioned her her record. Why didn't you you had her on your
show twice, and you never questioned her record, and then
you going to say, well, she did some good things too, but as
Tulsi Gabbard says, she did these things up until her last
job.
Adam Curry: I may be jumping ahead, but what you're clearly
laying out before us here, Mo is that Charlamagne the god is
compromised in some way. Charlamagne
Moe Factz: the guy is very compromised. Let's go to this is
him defending her post the Tulsi Gabbard situation
Unknown: out front now, Charlemagne, the God, and I know
we played that moment before it was it was an important moment.
You talked about how genuine she seemed, and now, obviously you
know you were talking about legalizing marijuana. During
that exchange, Congresswoman Gabbard has come out and put
forth, oh, well, you know these, these, these people that she put
behind bars for marijuana. What did you make of that moment?
Debate
last I didn't think it was a genuine moment, simply because
if you want to attack, you know, Senator Harris for, I guess, you
know, contributing to putting people in jail for drugs, then
why wouldn't you attack Joe Biden too, if you are, if
you're, you know, purpose was to combat somebody for the war on
drugs. I mean, the author of the 94 crime bill in 88 crack laws
was sitting right there in front of you. So I just thought it was
kind of low hanging fruit to go after Senator Harris for that.
But yo, nobody. Everybody should be questioned on their record.
Yeah, yeah, sure.
Adam Curry: Wow. Not only, not only shilling for Camela, but
torpedoing Joe, exactly.
Moe Factz: And everybody should be questioned on her record, on
their record, except Kamala,
Adam Curry: yeah, except when she's on my show. We don't have
to do that weed,
Moe Factz: and that's what the Breakfast Club is supposed to be
about, asking tough questions. But
Adam Curry: mo how twisted is it that? And I'm sure you're going
to show us how Charlemagne is compromised, that the guy who
was actually there to push her, defend against others, discredit
Joe Biden is the one who messed it up and had this haha funny
moment about the weed, which is now being used as the main bomb
against her, right? That,
Moe Factz: I think that's karma. I think that's just, I mean you,
when you don't take things seriously and all your light,
you know, and loose, those kind of dumb questions. Come out and
ask themselves, yeah. And her laughing about it, that was bad,
yeah. So let's listen to him defend her a little bit more.
You
Unknown: know her, you know Joe Biden on that stage, wore the
big gun. So everybody was, you know, coming up, coming up
against them, I mean, and you know Gabbard, I can't even
pronounce her name, does it? Gabbard? She's at 0%
so you like the swagger? You like that. I
Adam Curry: don't mean 0% is a talking point that Kamala Harris
raised herself right after the that debate. You like that. I
Unknown: don't mean modest, yeah, it's the truth. Even
though she should have had that swagger on the stage last night,
because she did it. She was terrible on the stage
last night. Okay, all right. It.
Is she still your favorite? Or yeah, she's
still my favorite, simply because our current president is
a criminal. And who better to go up against a criminal than a
prosecutor? Prosecutor, that
Adam Curry: is the campaign talking point. Wow, yeah,
Charlemagne read in perfectly.
Moe Factz: He has it all, and as I call him now, his new name is
Charlemagne the guard. That's what he does. He is, I'm gonna
say this. I honestly, honestly believe that Charlemagne, to
God, is her protect her, her attack guard, and he's gonna
protect her with everything. And that makes me believe that
Charlemagne is part of the Boulet, aka, for those who don't
know, B, O, U, L, E, Boulay, which is nothing but the Black
Skull and Bones. That's not my statement. That's the author of
the book that wrote the book on Boulet. That's what they like to
turn themselves as, which we all know, or most of us know, is
Skull and Bones is one of the groups LinkedIn with the
Illuminati. And I don't really like using that term because
it's been so over, trivialized, overused, trivialized and
watered down. But let's just hear Charman talk about the
Illuminati. Hip
Unknown: Hop's obsession with the Illuminati is the fact that
they can't figure out how to say when their own people are
successful. Black people in general, a black man in America
can't just be successful without you know, and this is amongst
other black people. Other black people will say, Oh, he must be
an Illuminati. Oh, he sold his soul. Oh, he must be gay. You
can't just be talented. You just can't work your ass off. You
can't just be smart. It has to be something else connected to
your success, because people want to try to justify their own
failures.
Adam Curry: Now, that's not just with with the Boulet. That's
with all entertainment. All entertainment is that way you've
got to walk the ladder.
Moe Factz: So, so this is where you come in. You're the expert
on this topic. I don't want to get understand too sidetracked,
but is being in that industry totally off of talent? I mean,
you, you've been at the height of heights in the entertainment
industry?
Adam Curry: Well, let me answer that no, yes, because I have not
been at the height of heights because I never played the game.
I just wanted to do my job. I never went to parties, actually,
eight years MTV, no one ever offered me drugs. Well, we but
nothing other than that. I never played with anything. And did I
get invited? Was I asked to go places? Yeah, but I just never
did it. So I never got any further than VJ, which, believe
me, is pretty much before we had podcasting, the lowest rung on
the show business ladder. So okay, but yes, I've seen many
people ascend, and I've and I've always seen the company they
keep, and understand pretty well how it works. It's never been
for me,
Moe Factz: right? So as you say on No, I want to know a gender
podcast, um, the truth always,
Adam Curry: always wants to come out. Yep, it does, right?
Moe Factz: So let's listen to part two.
Unknown: Nobody Black would be in the Illuminati. We just not
in a class, sorry, unless they use us for influence, which I
could see, you know, I could see them using us for influence, to
influence. You know, do you put certain images and things in our
mind? I can see that. But other than that, no. And once again,
there is no. There is not. If it is, it's the most it's the most
terrible kept secret ever. If it's, if it's a secret society,
Adam Curry: oh, well, yes. And the images we put into the music
videos is exactly what was done,
Moe Factz: and the way he shapes the political narrative on his
show every day. He just, he said, he just went there. He
just clearly stated what he's doing now, yeah,
Adam Curry: literally what he's doing. Yes, you're right.
Moe Factz: I can see using them for influence. Yeah, I could see
that. Now let me ask, let
Adam Curry: me ask you a question. The Boulet, you say
it's Skull and Bones. Skull and Bones, was Yale? And I believe
Kamala went to Yale, did she not? I'm
Moe Factz: not sure she I'm not sure that I thought she went for
Howard. I think some school in California. I think us, USC. I
believe, if I'm not mistaken,
Adam Curry: I thought she meant was a law degree.
Moe Factz: I think that was Obama you're thinking about. And
he was, he was
Adam Curry: yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Okay, all right,
Moe Factz: all right. So let's listen to part three. I got
Unknown: you and you, and you notice the last thing I say when
you look up the word Illuminati, though, all it means is the
enlightened ones. That's all the definition of Illuminati means.
It means the enlightened people of our society. So these are the
people that are enlightened. What's wrong with being
enlightened? You know what I'm saying? Like, what's wrong?
Wrong with having knowledge, having wisdom, having
understanding, what's wrong with just being an enlightened
audience? That's what it is, the enlightened people. Yes, I want
to be one of the enlightened people. That's what I read books
for. To try to be one of the highly enlightened people of my
society. Like, yes, every day I strive for knowledge. I want to
be a better person. Like, what's wrong with being enlightened?
Like, so.
So basically, on the record, Charlemagne is saying that he
wants to be in the in the Illuminati,
if there was an Illuminati, and it is of the enlightened people,
why wouldn't I be? Why wouldn't I want to be? Why wouldn't I?
Why wouldn't I want to be with all the knowledge is that, why
wouldn't I want to know the world's secrets? Why wouldn't I?
Why wouldn't I?
Adam Curry: Well, just do your best son, and you'll be leveled
up to the appropriate knowledge. He's,
Moe Factz: he's, I think that was his application, yeah,
submitting his application. Hey, influence, yeah. Influence,
young minds, I got this huge platform if you need me, you
know, use me. And so he had, what was the farmer, bro, I
can't pronounce his name,
Adam Curry: the squirrelly Martin scorrilly, right?
Moe Factz: He was on the Breakfast Club, and I want you
to listen to his inner exchange they had between him and
Charlemagne. That's
Unknown: a separate subject. I was at a I was at Bridget
capital yesterday, which is a great hedge fund. I didn't see
nobody in there with mask on. A bunch of goons talking crazy to
what you was talking. Bridger, yeah, I
wonder what you didn't there anyway,
really, yes, I
was, sir. I know people too. Yeah.
Okay, that's,
that's some Illuminati, right there.
Don't worry about me. Okay, that just
you totally changed every like my blew up. My brain
actually good.
Um,
I gotta sit.
Gotta take a different
Adam Curry: attitude. I should be listening to the Charlamagne
show this. This is on the air.
Moe Factz: Yes, this is on the air. Uh, so Bridger capital. Is
it like some huge, I mean, maybe you know more than I do. I
couldn't find much about him, but it's this huge, uh, hedge
fund, hedge fund. And when he said he was there, the the
farmer, bro, um, this one, McCall, and um, was like, what
really like? What the hell are you doing there? Well, you know,
so yeah,
Adam Curry: he's been involved in a lot of weird stuff, so it
wouldn't be out of character for him to be with other weird
people,
Moe Factz: right? So I'm just saying the fact that that was
unprompted, that he even associated him with the
Illuminati, quote, unquote, Illuminati. But as Charlotte
said, the enlightened,
Adam Curry: what did he say about it? I couldn't quite hear
it. He said something about $2 million
Moe Factz: Oh, so, okay, a little background in this. He
brought him on the show because the the former bro, how you say
his name again? Shkreli. Shkreli, okay, really bought
this Wu Tang album. There was only one copy of all right? $2
million right? And so he was perceived as being disrespectful
to one of a few of the members of Wu Tang, and that's why
Charlemagne had him on. And right from the beginning,
Charlemagne laid into him. And this is Charlemagne style, so
the contrast of how he's handling Kamala to how he use
usually handles guests. I mean, usually he's like, up front,
like, right on it, yeah, cutting people down, sure, sure, right,
so. And then the exchange happened that he said, Oh yeah,
I was over at Bridger capital, and the dude was like, You
should have seen his face. Like, big. And it was like, what,
that's what you doing over there, and he's like some
Illuminati crap right there, you know. So all that to say, you
remember that white privilege? Yes, what did Charmaine called
the old white man privilege? Yes. Charlemagne has been the
recipient of this old white man privileged. The reason why I say
that is and this climate of me too, he has his own allegations,
as you'll see in this next clip,
Unknown: Charlemagne the gods, rape allegations resurface, and
we have an exclusive interview with his alleged victim. Hey
guys, it's Ali for Hollywood Life and Charlemagne the gods
rape accuser Jessica Reid wants the case reopen 17 years after
he was arrested for allegedly having sex with her when she was
just 15 years old. Here are the details. Charlemagne was charged
for sexual misconduct, and he ended up pleading guilty to a
lesser charge at the time. Well, the victim, Jessica read, tells
us how this all allegedly happened, revealing she met
Charlamagne, who was in his 20s at the time, in 2001 through a
mutual friend and a DJ. A few days later, Charlemagne called
her and expressed his interest in her. But she told him she
wasn't interested, and they agreed to just be friends,
according to Jessica, Charlemagne invited her to his
cousin's birthday party, apparently playing it off as his
own to convince Jessica to pass by. Charlemagne reportedly
picked her up and a friend and drove them to a party filled
with guys and only two other women. Jessica alleges that at
the party, Charlemagne spiked her drink with something, and
she ended up passing out in the bathroom while she was unable to
move after she fell down, Jessica says she could see and
hear Charlemagne and his friends laughing at her. She claims that
Charlemagne friends took her upstairs where they allegedly
violated her. Then she alleged Charlemagne later came in the
room, took his clothes off, got in bed with her, took her
clothes off, and proceeded to have sex with her. Jessica and
her friend got help from a stranger, and she eventually
went to the hospital. Jessica tells us she felt betrayed by
Charlemagne and was encouraged to speak out after seeing him
trying to discredit the situation. When he was speaking
to DJ academics as of this recording, Charlemagne reps
responded back to us with a statement from his attorney,
Michael Weinstein of lavley singer, Charlemagne was accused
of a sexual assault. He never had sexual relations or any
physical contact with the accuser, and even provided DNA
to prove it. At the time of these claims, Charlemagne
cooperated fully with authorities, and after the
investigation this charge against him was dropped,
Charlemagne has spoken about this many times over the years
in public, including in his book. While Charlemagne has
empathy for all sexual assault victims, he cannot take
responsibility for a crime he did not commit. But all right,
as the story continues to develop, you guys can click
right up here to get all the latest updates.
Moe Factz: Okay, Adam, had you? Had you heard of that story
before you heard it here? And
Adam Curry: I don't think so. It's a 17 year old story. I
don't I don't remember this at all,
Moe Factz: but it spiked back up, doing the whole me too
thing, right? But it got no traction at all. And so they got
me to wondering, hmm,
Adam Curry: and you'd think that you know a guy with 8 million
listeners to his morning radio show, this would be an
interesting target to take down.
Moe Factz: Very interesting, especially that he's been, he's
been very politically incorrect. He's not. You're saying he He's,
um, he has stories about, uh, him using Spanish Fly. I mean,
this is not the only thing that you're saying. He said out of
the way. So, like you said, he seems like a very big target to
take down, but nothing
Adam Curry: so that he's got some bulletproofness to him.
Moe Factz: Why? And the question is, why, when you see certain
people not being going, being taken down, why? And my personal
opinion, I think he has a job to do. He the way he carries
himself, he's seen as a quote, unquote, real guy. You know, he
was on the show Guy Code on MTV, yeah. So he has this. He's not
one of these, like he wouldn't be seen as a panderer. So if his
support for Kamala, if he, if he supports Kamala, is seen as
coming from real black men. Got it going back to what we talked
about before in the previous shows, where are Democrats
hurting it with their numbers black male voters and black
voters overall? So he's a very valuable piece.
Adam Curry: Yes, he's an asset that is meant to keep the black
men in line with the messaging right and to promote, in this
case, the right quote, unquote, black woman for them to lean
towards,
Moe Factz: right? And then he could attack Joe as well,
because it's not seen as like some kind of feminist movement,
you know, attack,
Adam Curry: quite honestly, anyone could attack Joe with
both hands behind their back. There's so much to attack,
Moe Factz: right? So in investigating Charlemagne, to
God, I came across the guard, I'm saying I came across some
interesting panel. And you were talking about last week about
these think tanks. Yes. So on this panel was Charlemagne, the
guard Porter from four magazine whose name is Zach O'Malley
Greenberg. It was ti rapper ti tip Harris and David groves.
Adam Curry: So I know that name. I knew you would recognize
Moe Factz: that. Yes, I
Adam Curry: do. I do.
Moe Factz: Would you like to explain to us how you recognize
that name? Adam?
Adam Curry: Yes, I have a weird habit of when someone is lauded
by any group, certainly if they die. I always look into what
they were doing, and there's been this, it's kind of weird.
But I, you know, I I've been hearing stories about, oh, this,
this rapper, this hip hopper, etc, and then I go look at the
lyrics and like, what are you defending this guy for? And
that's how it initially started when, when Nipsey Hussle died, I
knew nothing about Nipsey Hussle. I knew one little thing
about him, and that was because he was involved in a
cryptocurrency initial coin offering in Amsterdam around the
same time I was involved in the crypto community in Amsterdam.
So I knew that he was in and these things are basically kind
of scamish where, you know, you get, you get, and, you know,
we've had Snoop with some crypto stuff, and it was, you know,
it's that market is kind of dead now. But the idea is, you get
someone of some fame to endorse it. You release your crypto
coin. People see the the celebrity. They buy the coin.
Everybody is already in the coin. So it starts to go up.
Then everybody massively sells it, dumps out. And then, you
know, they've made their money. I don't know if I don't think
their coin actually ever launched, but that's how I knew
Nipsey Hussle. And as I started looking into it, I'm like, this
is, why are we? Why is everyone celebrating this guy? What they
had to hold? What was the venue in LA they Staples Center,
Staple Center. Like, holy crap. So I started looking into the
guy. And then I see, you know, all these claims, because when
people make blanket claims, I listen to it, well, you know,
he's really doing stuff for his community. And I start looking
into it. And I'm like, doing stuff for his community. It
seems like he was actually working with a bunch of, well,
with this girl, Guy and these big real estate developers, and
they were taken over stuff. And when I saw that, they intended
to buy the strip mall where, where his his shop is, where he
was gunned down, it wasn't to build affordable housing. It was
to build new retail, and, you know, new apartments and
residential units. And I'm like, hold on a second. So I start
looking a little further, and it seems like this is something
that's going on with a number of people. DJ Khaled, I think Jay
Z's name came up, and then they're all looking to buy the
viceroy properties, very upscale hotel like this. Seems like the
guy's either being used or is in some Cabal, and that's how I
know the girl name. Okay,
Moe Factz: so at the same time you were doing your
investigation, I was doing my own independent investigation.
Adam Curry: We didn't know each other at all,
Moe Factz: but we don't have any connection whatsoever. Well, as
you said, Whenever somebody's put on a certain level and this,
let me say this. First of all, I have to say this disclaimer.
This is not anything against Nipsey Hussle. You know, he was
tragically, I'm saying attacking, um, but we have to
look and see why they stopped broadcast television to show his
funeral, only certain people, a lot I'm saying, are put on that
level. Yes, he was. It's been stated that he was given the
Michael Jackson funeral.
Adam Curry: You're right. Very, very similar, right,
Moe Factz: very, very similar. So, so I started digging. And
the same time I was listening to your show, I was like, we're on
the same path, because you brought forward the same facts
that you just laid out there. So right after that, I think the
word was starting to bubble under the surface, and Jay Z
comes out and convinces people, via freestyle that gentrifying
your own hood is a good thing.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. It's like, we might as well do it before
the white man does
Moe Factz: right? So this is what this panel, this think
tank, and that's why I say, I'm going to show you balance. This
is what the male boots are. Of the Boulet looks like. Um,
they're trying to convince people that coming in, bringing
big capital into the to into the hood, is somehow good for the
community, is a good thing. So the the L shape plans that you
spoke about, that him and David gross bought for a couple
million dollars. I first found this article, uh, when I was
doing my digging, uh, Forbes magazine. And the title was
inside Nipsey hussles blueprint to become a real estate mogul.
And this was written on February 20. This is prior to his, um, as
untimely death. In there, they state that they bought the plaza
and they were going to tear it down, and within 18 months or
so, they were going to knock everything down, this is quote
the article, and rebuild a six story residential building on
top of commercial plaza where a revamped marathon store will be
anchored or will be the anchor tenant. And I. I actually made a
video about this on my YouTube channel titled Jay Z and
gentrification. And I go into this whole article, Jay Z saying
we should use eminent domain. But on that panel, let's listen
to TI explain gentrification. I
Unknown: want to ask a question, why do you think other people
see gold in our neighborhoods when we don't
well? I think, I think because it's by design, you know, I do
believe that at a certain point in time there's a strategy by
the powers that be that sit in ivory towers and look down and
at all the poverty that exists and says, Well, we'll just let
that go on for so long, okay, well, then we'll tear down the
projects, and we'll push people out to the outskirts, and then
we'll get enough people to come in and invest our money on
things like stadiums and domes. And because most of the stadiums
and domes are right across the street from poverty stricken
areas, and so once they build these stadiums and domes and
billions of dollars are being congested into this community.
Well, then there's nothing left to do but come by and buy all of
the blighted property in the area and fix it up. And before
you know it, you got, you know, white people walking their dog
down the street, and that's when you know, your property just
went up.
Adam Curry: Now, isn't this exactly what Jay Z did with the
with the nets? This
Moe Factz: is exactly what he did in Brooklyn. They used him
as he was the he was the blueprint. They put him up front
for the Brooklyn Nets,
Adam Curry: which, which is, I think if you asked anybody on
the street, they'd say, Oh yeah, Jay Z owns it, would, I think he
owns, like, 0.001% or something. Really, I
Moe Factz: think it was like, point two, 5% yes, of the net.
But they used him. They sent him courtside, yep, like he was
calling the shots. Uh, they used him because he was from
Brooklyn. Um, in a similar fashion how they use Nipsey and
and Crenshaw. This
Adam Curry: is actually very important, in my mind, is the
way, and it's entertainment people in general. It's not a
black or white issue. You know, people have perceived success
and wealth, and a lot of that is controlled by others, much
higher on the literal pyramid, and they'll use that ultimately,
for their gains. But it's disingenuous, and it happens
across the board where, you know, where people think the
Kardashians, I think, is a very good example, you know, you
know, what's the Kylie. Oh, she's worth a billion dollars.
You ask anybody, Yep, she's worth a billion dollars. No, no,
no, she's she's rich. She ain't that wealthy. And it's because
people who are really running the show really own the
properties,
Moe Factz: right? So, and this is what they do, they take not
only can you advertise for a product. But you can advertise
an idea, yes, and this idea has been, Jay Z was the first to do
it, as far as using a black face to bring gentrification in.
Because if you know, if you use the businessman to do it, you'll
get pushback, right? But the way they shape it is these guys are
giving back to the hood now who will be living in that six story
apartment building that Nipsey Hussle and his and his business
partner was building. One small fact, when you go look at the
paperwork, guess whose name is not on the paperwork.
Adam Curry: Nipsey Hussle, exactly. Yeah, that figures
Moe Factz: it's proven, and it's so much so that David Gross has
been getting death threats over this because people feel like he
used Nipsey Hussle,
Adam Curry: why? You know, when it's so obvious that this
happens. Why do people still buy this? They not care, and
especially people who are living in the neighborhood that is
about to be gentrified. And Jay Z admits, it says, it says, Hey,
we got to do it before, and he's in the process of doing it in in
Brooklyn,
Moe Factz: it's not the people that live in the neighborhood
that are for it. It's you shaping popular opinion of the
people outside, right? That where the people that you sell
your products to? As we know, rap music is not majority bought
by black people. No, it's bought by teenage white girls, exactly.
So with that the case, they got to make sure they keep it real,
quote, unquote, keep it real so that you don't seem like you're
selling out. So you keep your fan base all the while pushing
these capitalistic ideas that will victimize the people that
live in those neighborhoods, right? And that's what they do.
So let's, let's listen to why they use Nipsey Hussle,
Unknown: I think one of the things I want to point out, and
and you've seen it woven through the discussion and in today, but
the there's a lot of concern about the opportunity zones,
that money will come into the community and overwhelm the
community and push people out. The great thing about our
opportunity is that it identifies the players and the
value in the community and tries to get the money behind them.
And so we take someone like Nipsey Hussle, who's been
demonstrating his skill, his value, what he can bring to the
neighborhood, and it gets the resources behind him so that he
can own slaloson Plaza. And let me just point out slawson Plaza.
The Olympics are coming to Los Angeles in 2028 every person
that takes mass transit from LAX has to make a train stop at
Sloss and Plaza, every single person, bar none. So that's the
kind of information we try to, again, pair together and say,
This is a opportunity.
Moe Factz: Now remind me, who is this speaking that is the
councilman of that I'm saying, of that district.
Adam Curry: Wow, he was also know this about the that being
the stop. That's fantastic, right?
Moe Factz: So I cover that in my video. If you guys want to go
check that out, and they even mentioned it in the article.
This is not new. It says. In the meantime, a light rail line is
rising to link Crenshaw, which is crucially qualifies as a tax
advantage opportunity zone, to Los Angeles International
Airport. So this thing is sitting on a gold mine. Wow, a
gold mine, especially with the 22,028
Adam Curry: Olympics coming now, to be fair, if, and I don't know
anything about the area, other than the strip mall, it, yeah,
it would push people out, but it would, by default, also bring a
lot of money into that very neighborhood. I mean, I can see
how you can turn around and say, Yo, yo, yo, but it's gonna bring
money in. It's just, you'll have to move back a little bit. But I
can see where that would work.
Moe Factz: If you look at my video, you'll see how they use
the rails system to put people out of business that were, you
know, the the mom and pop shops in that community
Adam Curry: that's called progress. Mo, right,
Moe Factz: right. The other thing is that you cover on the
no agenda show is, where do these people go? Crenshaw was
the last stop for a reason. Yeah. After that, you living in
RVs tents, you know. So it's once you take the last refuge
for poor people and like, I'm not anti capital, I'm not anti
money making. But my problem is the hypocrisy. Yeah, because
it's one thing I said in this statement that I just read tax
advantage opportunity zone. Do you know? Do you are you
familiar with that?
Adam Curry: I know, but I can surmise that it means, if you
commit to putting money into a certain area, then you will have
tax, no tax, or tax breaks, maybe even a refund, based upon
what you're doing. Happens all the time. It's similar to Amazon
coming into, coming into New York, and getting all kinds of
tax breaks correct.
Moe Factz: And I want to get to the punchline here. But let's
first, let's listen to TI TI on the war on drugs. You know,
Unknown: it's giving us a chance to pass on more to our kids and
just trauma, you know. And, I think that, you know, we come
from environments where you have people that are dealing with a
lot of pain, and they're dealing with a lot of hurt, and I think
environment plays a big role in that. You know, the conditions
that you grow up in play a big role in that. A lot of these
brothers and sisters is just products of their environment.
So I think when you're creating something like our opportunity,
where you're keeping the money in the community and you're
providing opportunities for the community. You're making people
feel like better versions of themselves, you know. And if you
feel like a better version of yourself, if you truly, you
know, love yourself, you truly value yourself and appreciate
yourself and appreciate your community, then you'll love,
value and appreciate your brother and sister. And I think
that's how you stop, you know, these generational cycles of
pain, because I think that all we end up doing is
redistributing pain to people that look just like us, and I
think this is just one of the ways to break
the cycle. I agree, and I don't think there is enough
consideration given to the effects of the so called War on
Drugs, the crack epidemic, mass incarceration and the project
systems that have plagued these communities that are now
seemingly investment dreams for people who didn't have to
withstand the conditions of
these environments. You know.
Adam Curry: Thank. For paving the way. Now get out.
Moe Factz: The problem with that statement is a couple issues
here, one on one side the conversation you have
Charlamagne, the God called the guard. He was saying he's
protecting a woman that supported mass incarceration.
He's done it twice, two times in a row. He was he was pro Hillary
Clinton in a general election, 2016 which we all know her role
in mass incarceration. If you want to go conspiracy theory, we
know what the function of Mina Arkansas was.
Adam Curry: Yes, that's where the apparently, the drugs were
flown and the arms were flown for the but the drugs came in
for the Iran Contra deal and then were sold on the streets of
Los Angeles,
Moe Factz: correct? And both of these guys are Die Hard
Democrats. On the other side of the conversation, you have Mr.
Ti who is one of the founders of what you call trap rap, which is
nothing but glorifying saying, the selling of drugs, the
killing of young black men. And I want to say this, I enjoy rap
music just like everybody else. You look you listen to it like
you watch a mob movie or anything else, but when you
perpetuate it like a lifestyle to be achieved after that's the
problem I have. And then you want to say, oh, we need to
blame the war on drugs. Dude, they were, they were kicking
down doors to take out people like you, right? You, you're
saying your music is the one that was supporting this
lifestyle so much so this guy even opened a trap music museum
that looked like a trap house. And what people don't know, what
a trap house is the same thing as a crack house. And so you
had, you got the stove with them cooking crack up and all these
things, and you're monetizing this, um, this, um, negative
behavior in our community that tore it down. So, but then you
want to turn around profit off the results of it
Adam Curry: is, uh, so where, where is Ti in this? I mean,
what side of the fence is he on?
Moe Factz: He's on the side of the money. He's gonna be, he's
gonna be the face of Atlanta, right? I mean, what they did was
they found these different hubs. You have Jay Z in New York, you
have Nipsey in California, you have ti in Georgia. I'm sure
they have somebody in Miami or Florida or somewhere, all these,
uh, opportunity zones now, um, that's, you know what? I've
killed that horse. I don't want to keep going down the war, but
the war on drugs, like I said, um, dude, you the one that
you're saying that glorify this lifestyle that these young men
go out, go out. And we talked about how the men were taken out
of the household, and these young men without fathers look
up to these rappers, and you've profited off this lifestyle. And
let's just to be honest, ti has been very he's benefited from
some windfalls from the justice system as well. He was caught
with a ray of guns being a convicted felon, and got, like,
two years, a year or two years, Tom, come on. So when we look at
these people, we got to start asking, why are they getting
off? And then they turn around and push these political
motives. So
Adam Curry: the first thing out, first thing I'd ask, is, who was
the district attorney where he was convicted of the weapons
charge.
Moe Factz: That's a good question. And why did, why was
he given such a been on such a lenient sentence? Well, I don't
see anybody locked up, but then when you get out now, you become
this political voice. So much so, um, I'm going, I've skipped
over something. I just want to go back the word opportunities
home. Now you laid out you said, it seems like a tax break,
right? Yeah, it is a tax break. And guess where it came from.
Trump's 2017 tax plan. I would drop my mic if it wasn't you're
saying, yeah, don't
Adam Curry: it would break if you did it, right? Wow. Okay,
Moe Factz: so these guys are out here benefiting off of track
Trump's opportunity zones. At the same time, they're anti
Trump. You're saying speaking to the masses, but they're getting
rich off of his saying, off of his tax cuts. It's like, Oh,
that is moral standing, and that's why I'm so animated about
this, because it pisses me off so bad. Um, let's just listen to
TI. Um, listen. Talk about Donald Trump. If you support
Donald Trump, okay, you know, sorry, this
Unknown: one, I seen you taking some some some shots at Trump,
making a statement. Well, you know what I mean? You know
you're telling all your fans, don't mess
with it. He misuse and abuse his power to the point where he uses
his money and his info. Noise to tell people to do things that
are harmful to my people. Well, I just want him to know how
frowned upon that is in my community. Start with me if I
stand on a certain platform and I use my money and my influence
and tell a lot of people that follow me, hey, guess what? You
go and hurt those people. I will pay your legal fees, right? I
will take care of you. If you do this for me, I will make sure
that you're strict, that you're straight, not if I do that, you
know that's no that's no different than, you know, than
how they view the leader of some of you know, some of the
organized crime syndicates. So, I mean, you know what he's doing
is really illegal.
If a Trump supporter was a fan of yours. Would you, would you
let him buy your album? Or would you say, I don't want your
money?
I mean, if he, if he supports all of his actions, man, right
and wrong. I mean, if he supports all his actions and
knowledgeable of how he feels, I don't want to worry about my
music. I rather he did, because I just don't think that that's
that's not the road that I traveled down. Yeah, something's
more important than
Adam Curry: money to read, huh? Well, of course, we've got to
denounce the evil Orange Man, but at the same time, take full
advantage. And it sounds like specifically targeting the use
of the OPT the tax break opportunity zone.
Moe Factz: And did you hear what he said? He said, If you use
your platform, this knows this is going to affect my people.
You know, do you using your platform to affect our people
negatively? What are you talking about? These people live in
these poor neighborhoods because they have nowhere else to go.
Now, let
Adam Curry: me ask a question. Let me ask a question. These I
want to understand these opportunity zones. I never
really looked into the Trump tax breaks too deeply, because I
don't think I qualify for the good stuff. Are these mal intent
these opportunity zones? Or is the idea good but being misused,
or is what do you know about them?
Moe Factz: I'll let Trump explain opportunity zones to
Unknown: you. We want all Americans to share in our great
economic renewal. That's why governors in all 50 states and
the territories have designated 8700 neighborhoods as
opportunity zones. Hard to believe, 8700 household income
in these communities is 37% less than the median income in a
state as a whole. So it's 37% down, and we're catching them
fast. In order to revitalize these areas, we've lowered the
capital gains tax for long term Investment and Opportunity zones
all the way down to a very big fat, beautiful number of 00,
Adam Curry: all right, all right. Please tell me then that
these opportunity zones are that that the rich real estate
developers are not eligible directly to do something, but
the intent was to have the community themselves develop,
and then it would make sense that these opportunity zone
leeches want to get someone from that community to be their
figurehead. Is that how it how it fits together?
Moe Factz: That's how it fits together. Damn.
Adam Curry: That is cynical. That is cynical
Moe Factz: and right? And thing is, is, if you want to be, you
know, capitalistic, if you want to make money, that's your
thing. But you can't say you're for your people and turn around
and use Trump's tax cuts. Who you say is the boogeyman, who is
a bad guy? You don't tell black people how to take advantage of
these things until they're all sold up. I mean all the
property. I mean all the properties been we were in 2019
now, when they start talking about these things, the tax
thing, the tax bill, went through it in 2017 two years
later, all the good properties been bought up, right? Um, so
it's just, it just drives me crazy. Just,
Adam Curry: I just want to make sure okay. Do you know the
stipulations about these opportunities? What I'm worried
about now that I hear this is that these opportunity zones
were always meant for rich developers, ie, you know, Donald
Trump's and other cities to go around and gentrify everything.
Or, do you know if there were stipulations that you know you
couldn't just do that as a regular developer? I mean, do
you know any of the background of that? No,
Moe Factz: it's the wild wild west. If you got money you want
to invest in the opportunity zones and like, let's just go
not all opportunity zones are created equal.
Unknown: Yes, got it. On the one hand, you've got places like
Puerto Rico, basically the entire island is an opportunity
zone, and they are clearly in need of fresh investment. On the
other hand, you've got places like the affluent DC suburbs,
right outside of Washington, the neighborhood where. Local
officials are trying to lure Amazon's HQ to that is also an
opportunity zone. So that report from Brookings found that of the
8700 opportunity zones across the country, 11% have poverty
rates that are actually below the national average. College
towns like the one around Texas A and M and the University of
Southern California, they also qualified, so the report
questions whether this program will really direct money to
distressed communities, or whether it's just another tax
haven for the rich. Now the Treasury Department says that it
intentionally gave states a lot of flexibility to choose which
neighborhoods make the cut, and supporters argue they had to
strike a balance and look for places that need the investment,
but also have market potential guys, investors are just now
starting to raise money and understand how this program is
going to work. 2019, will be the real test of whether the cash
gets to communities that need it. Back over to you. Okay,
Adam Curry: so regardless, the smart way, the smart money to
shield themselves from criticism. Got a lot of these
guys and brought them in and said, Okay, here's your here's
your cut, and now let's it's all you and you're great for your
community. And let's go and do it.
Moe Factz: Yep, that's how it works. And the other thing is,
if you, if you listen to closely in that clip, only 11% of the
opportunity zones are in poor neighborhoods. Oh, yeah, so, and
this is where I get pissed. That was
Adam Curry: the that was the governor's choice, if I
understood the clip properly. But this
Moe Factz: is where I get I'm saying a little pissed at Trump
and
Adam Curry: Ben Carson. Right? Carson would be involved in that
is right. This is hood. This
Moe Factz: is all hood. What they did was they took the easy
way out. Say thanks. You pick where the opportunity,
opportunity zones are. We won't push back. I mean, coach like,
um, so everybody's, you know, saying, you know, saying
absolved or any blame, and nothing goes to help. The
majority of what this has been labeled as helping poor people,
and the poor people that the poor neighborhood that actually
help at the people be displaced. So it's just going to be totally
negative, negative for poor people. Um, so I mean, like you
said, if there's nothing there. They won't call it an
opportunity zone. And then the money won't flow there, right?
And this is where, this is where I get pissed at, back at Jay Z
and TI and these people only 11% Yeah, I'm big on percentages.
Let's go with the reparation thing. You can't give me 10%
you're saying I'm not gonna take the kind of cut, right? Cut,
right? You can't say this is opportunity zones only 11% and I
know why they use 11% so you can say over 10% you know talking
points. I know how this game works. Yeah, that's a weird
number to use 11% but this money is not going to flow where it
needs to help at all.
Adam Curry: So it was, it was always a failed program to start
with. It
Moe Factz: was a vehicle for when Trump allowed his you're
saying the rich to bring their money back on shore, right,
right, right. They needed a tax shelter. And they said, Hmm,
what tax shelter? Can we create great idea, opportunity zones
the left, not the left, but the guys that's supposed to be anti
Trump love it because it's a great word opportunity. They're
throwing this word opportunity around, like, you know, like,
change in 2008 it was like, oh, yeah, opportunity, opportunity
for everybody. Yeah, no, this. This only benefits people with
capital gains. And I had a conversation with one of my
friends. He's in the real estate, he's an entrepreneur,
and he doesn't make enough capital gains to take advantage
of this. And if he wanted to take advantage, I wouldn't have
a problem with him, because he's not out here preaching in the
streets about being, you know, being a social justice warrior
and a change agent, you know, he's trying to make, you're
saying, make good on, you know, on his investments. I don't have
any problem with that. It's the hypocrisy I have a problem with.
And somehow I
Adam Curry: got a feeling that hedge fund that Charlemagne was
talking about may be involved in some of these opportunity zones.
And am I stealing that? Right? Mo,
Moe Factz: and you don't even have to invest. Here's the other
thing, and you'll see this in my video, you don't even have to
invest your money into the zone itself. They create what's
called an opportunity fund. So it's a fund is created, yeah.
And you invest your money into fund, yeah. And then, and the
thing, here's a kicker, only 30% and now look at this. Listen to
these percentages. I know I'm a little animated today, but it
just I mean this is this really gets into my skin. So 11% of all
opportunity zones are important neighborhoods, and then 30% of
your business only has to take place in an opportunity. Zone.
Adam Curry: I'm laughing, but it's so cruel,
Moe Factz: right? Who are we helping here? And you know what?
I don't even know if it's a good thing or bad thing. If only 11%
because Jesus Christ, if it was 50 or 60% you have wiped out
homeless people everywhere. Yeah,
Adam Curry: wow. Okay, all
Moe Factz: right, so let's look at the concerns of opportunity
zones. Well, the
Unknown: government is sweetening the deal for
investors who put their money into San Diego's most
underserved neighborhoods. It's a potential solution to our
housing crisis that we're exploring as part of our making
it in San Diego initiative. Our tennis
reporter John horn explains why longtime residents are concerned
that plan could backfire. This intersection overlooks much of
the Colina Del Sol neighborhood here in the City Heights area.
It's a part of San Diego that Zillow says is ripe for new
housing. It's been expensive to live here,
but it's expensive to live anywhere. Tommy
Barnett has called Colina Del Sol home for the past nine
years, the price, like everywhere else, going up,
starting at 12 or 13 for a one bedroom. Still, the government
designated this area as an opportunity zone, or as the IRS
puts it, economically distressed. Our region has about
30 of these zones. Most in the city of San Diego's inner core.
There's
nothing around. There's no area for you to be able to buy or
place any new building on.
That now appears to be changing the opportunity Zone Program
part of 2017 tax reform offers tax breaks to investors who
inject their dollars into these neighborhoods, but instead of
making life more affordable, Zillow says home prices in
opportunity zones grew 20% in
a year. There are still as many questions as there are answers
out there. Eric
tilkemeyer Does economic development in city heights,
also an opportunity zone. He's working with policymakers to
make sure the new investments benefit the community. We're
Park
deficient. Our sidewalks are deplorable in a number of
neighborhoods are the walkability is not, is not what
it should be. The challenge is all of those same improvements
tend to cause gentrification,
in other words, keeping residents like Barnett from
being priced out of their own neighborhoods. John horn 10
News,
Adam Curry: so I looked up I live in Austin, Texas,
opportunity zones in the city of Austin. There are 21 census
tracks designed as opportunity zones in the city of Austin. And
this is something that you may not know, but when I when an
Austinite reads, the majority of zones are located to the east of
interstate 35 which is where I live, and I see what's going on
here. Bingo makes total sense.
Moe Factz: And just to bring it full circle, now you see why I
am hesitant when people say government programs, yeah, when
they talk about reparations. No, right?
Adam Curry: You could even fold this into a reparations
Assistance Program. Is
Moe Factz: that, and this is how, just the now we're we back
where we started. This is when Kamala Harris, black, what was,
what was it? The, uh, the housing program she had, you
covered it, um, that was gonna help, help black people that she
spoke about the essence festival,
Adam Curry: oh, it's the yes, it's no, it's okay. It was the
low income something. But it turned out was like a combined
under had to be under $100,000 of income, and that would be, I
think, to help people purchase first homes. Or, I'm a little
little shaky on it, but I do remember the bar was set very
high, at $100,000 which would mean, no way is that just for
poor people.
Moe Factz: So what you have is two college graduates just
coming out of college, or one college graduate that's,
understand, gainfully employed that falls just under that bar,
and they'll come in and buy a condo in these gentrified areas.
You've talked about it before, how the people are okay with
living with next to nothing, these micro apartments, open
air, open air, dorm rooms. Oh, my God, it's
Adam Curry: right in South Austin on Congress Avenue.
They're building micro apartments. It's, it's, and
it's, you know, right near the the main hub of the city,
they're going to be, I think, something like 400 square feet
or something, right?
Moe Factz: And I covered that in my video, like I said, I've been
on this beat for a minute, but it's just funny that it popped
up. Charlemagne is on this panel this think tank, and this is
what the Boulet looks like, folks. You have politicians,
entertainers, media, and you have white backing money.
Forbes. Forbes is one that hosted, and for the females, you
had politicians. In media, they didn't have any entertainers,
but they showed you what how important the entertainers were
when they said that Beyonce and Oprah and them were replaced
Jesus and yes, yes, yes. So you see these, and it was backed by
the Brookings Institute. So you see these, large majority white,
uh, groups funding how black people should think. And I'm
not, this is where I what gets me. This is not for your
everyday working class black person, no, this is to get us in
line to vote the way they wants to vote, to think the way they
wants to think, while the top 10% Boole, talented 10th,
whatever you want to call them, profit off of steering us the
way they want to go. And this is, this is why I do this show,
Adam, this is why I do the show, because it gives me a platform
to one break down the media. I learned a lot from you and John
on how to do this, to take what the media does and turn it
around on them. And you know, and you know, really break it
down. And two, to make people show show people that have power
if you know how they're going to come at you, yes
Adam Curry: and and you really blew my mind with this one,
because I, if there's anything I follow very closely, it's
chronic unhoused. I don't, I don't like saying homeless,
because a home, if you look in the dictionary, has nothing to
do with a shelter. It is literally your community, your
people. So you can be living under I 35 and you can be that
can be your home, but the unhoused, and I've been to San
Diego, I've been to San Jose, I've lived in San Francisco,
I've lived in Los Angeles. It appears to me now, with taking
all this information into account, that a lot of the
chronic homelessness we're seeing, to use that word, is it
could possibly be from these opportunity zones.
Moe Factz: They're economic refugees. And
Adam Curry: looking at some important dates, there's a
December, 31 2019 which is, I guess, is phase one of the
opportunity zone. And then there's 2920 2120 2620 28 and
wow. That's mind blowing. So in almost directly, this tax cut
could be fueling people have living in cars and vans and RVs,
Moe Factz: you know what? And although I although they're not
Adam Curry: white in all, they're not black and awesome,
the unhoused are predominantly white.
Moe Factz: It's this is important, and this is another
reason for this show we have to get past not and I know I'm not
living in a colorblind society. This is we've had this talk
before. We need a need for black people. We need a need for white
people. We don't need to be homogenous society. I like, you
know, saying pockets of different cultures, and we all
contributed what we bring to the table. But we have to realize we
have a common enemy, and the common enemy is the elite. Yeah,
they look at us as an inconvenience, and anytime they
can make $1 or uh, one uh, 1/10 of a percent, you're saying more
profit. It doesn't matter who it impacts, you know, uh, move is
how you look at it, you know, um, pack up and move, yeah. And
where it really hits home at is if you have say, Okay, say, in
my case, if my parents owned a home and, you know, and they
left it to me, they willed it to me, and it was $100,000 and now
this opportunity zone drives up to 200 $250,000 would I sell? I
don't know, right? But when you do, when you sell that, or you
have apartment building, you know, it's in this and you know,
you're doing section eight, and these programs, when you sell
it, where do those people go? That these these neighborhoods,
whether it's white or black, is the last stop. And me and my
friend, I know we might be going a little long, but I just want
to make this one last point. It's like Monopoly, you know, I
mean how the board is set up, and the first two stops on
monopoly are the dark purple pieces. But when you get hotels
on those you have nowhere to stay, right? You're poor. End up
in a monopoly game.
Adam Curry: It's a great analogy for life, isn't it?
Moe Factz: Right? You just pray that you don't land on anywhere
you can afford but there's nowhere to land except jail or
free parking. That's it.
Adam Curry: Wow, how that how that mimics life is just
frightening, frightening mode. Thank you so much for opening my
eyes to that. I got to spend the rest of the day looking at these
opportunity zones and where they are. This is. Blow my mind. It
really is. I
Moe Factz: appreciate every Monday we have Adam, yeah, it's
opportunity
Adam Curry: Yes, well, we got, we got our own opportunity zone,
and we'll do it again for you next Monday with the next
installment of Mo facts with Adam curry. Thanks, Mo, talk to
you next week. All
Moe Factz: right. See you next week, Adam.
Adam Curry: All right. Bye, bye. Everybody
Unknown: wants some covid. Your friend. You mean more than
anything, I'm your pusher, Man. I'm your pusher thank
push it back.